All right, tonight on ship chasing we kick off our NFFC
draft with a $150.00 football guys, best ball championship.
A bunch of you guys hopped in. We are battle ready to battle
with the ship chasers with the NFFC grinders in a 34 round best
ball draft. I hope you guys know your team
kickers and team defenses because ship chasing is ready to
rumble tonight. Pat Fryer helmos this.
Is what this is what I'm hot Anita hand job.
Fix your site, Jamar. And also play chase.
You. Can't handle the heat?
It looks like we're finally. Fits the way you're right.
Yeah. Can we can we talk about address
this right out of the gate? So you guys were on the stream
late last night doing pros versus Joe's.
I went for an early morning walk this morning with my seven month
old daughter and I was like, you know what, I'm going to fire up
the pros versus Joe's stream on my phone, toss it in the
stroller. You guys just like just
completely spoiling the mini soaps?
No, not you kids. Yeah.
And I was like, what? Am I going to pretend he didn't
do it? I just.
It was me. I just.
Like, I'm sorry. It's like, first of all, they're
for YouTube members right now, the video thing.
Second of all, people like to watch and we build anticipation.
Who are we gonna select? Didn't even reveal in that video
who we selected because we didn't know who was coming.
Back I was like, what's going on?
Listen, Gretchen spoiled. Yeah, I did.
I spell out exactly what he did, but it was only after I was like
cats out of the bag. Anyone.
Anyone who wants. Can piece it together.
So it was too similar Pete. I mean we're picking out of the
11th slot in that I was to the 12:00 last night same decision
same like strategy I will say here's I got ahead of my soil it
again this is going on the podcast feed that stream did
not. So you know there are the audio.
We have four. Once in the history of the show,
actually service the audio listeners by not spoiling.
The Mini Sods. You guys talked more about our
mini sod pick that hadn't been released than you did your own
fucking picks at the 3-4 turn in that well.
That's definitely not because I wasn't drafting that team.
That was Ben and Shawn. So, well, we have our first NFFC
basketball. The first four.
Picks There's a lot more mini Sods to come.
There is, there is. We'll be picking at the five
sixth turn here in a little bit if you guys don't know what
we're referencing. So every year we do do our mini
SOD series. Those are available in video
form for YouTube members and then the audio version will be
on a delay here. But we have two of the mini Sods
up right now on our 1-2 turn picks and our 3-4.
And then again for the YouTube members who are in the Discord.
You guys have seen a bunch of our announcements, but tonight
is our first NFFC draft. We're going to be drafting a
bunch of teams on NFFC this year.
In addition to our other high stakes programming, we're having
another one of these drafts next week.
This one's already filled and this draft kicks off in 9
minutes, but you guys want to get into that draft with us next
week. I have the link pinned in the
chat and the description and I believe this is going to be the
last time we're able to do this. But you can get $15 off with
promo code SHIP 15. So if you want to hop in that
get that filled and you can do this again with us next week and
then the the fellas we're going to be huddling soon and we will
let you guys know our entire programming schedule for August,
all of our high stakes drafts, who we're doing them with, all
that good stuff including the Co managers.
We're gonna be touching base with you guys soon.
So it's been a busy week or so here in the ship chasing
offices, but I'm ready to rumble guys.
Me too. Like hypothetically, if someone
just was like curious how they were to like get into the draft
room of one of these sites on this new site we're playing on,
would you mind show them how to do that, Pat, you're struggling
to get in? Yeah, I don't know.
Well, first of all, I have the draft board up, so don't worry.
So someone knows what's going on over here.
We do have the draft board here. And also you gotta shout out the
NFFC instead of having to crop your screenshot for the team
name. They have anonymous team names
here. But Pat, what you want me to go
in and show you how to do? Yeah, like how?
Just like how did you get there and how would I get there?
I mean or just anyone, cuz we want everyone to feel
comfortable on the site, you know, So you go to NFC and then
you go to my teams and then you go down to clicking this one
ship chasing BB1. Then we are in our draft here.
We have the eighth slot tonight here.
And then we can head over to Just bear with me, Pat.
This is great TV. Trust me.
Thank you.
Will we go to the draft room? That's all right, but I can't
show. I can't show this because then
Gretch will put all of our favorite players in the queue
and then everyone will know. So you guys only get the draft
board? Oh man, I'm not even allowed to
see the draft board tonight. I'm not allowed to spoil
anything. This is so.
This is this format. So obviously we got the third
round reversal, which is new. We got quarterbacks get 6 point
passing Td's. We got no tight end premium
here, but we do have three wide receiver slots we drafted in
this format, not this best ball format, but the general NFFC
stuff in the past couple years. We did the 10K last year with
Leone. We did the 5K here previously.
That was when we drafted. I think that's the best team
I've ever drafted in my life. That was the Jamar Chase,
Jonathan Taylor Debo. Andre Swift, Round 4 Devo.
Travis Kelsey. We we didn't even have Cooper
Cup who was like a league winner.
But we still ran away with it. We didn't need Travis Kelsey.
At the top was Kelsey Taylor. A J.
Brown 301 third round reversal. And then I think it was DeAndre
Debo four or five turn. It's like he just knows.
Was it not Chase? Oh yeah, DeAndre Chase.
And then Debo was the 6-7 turn. Oh man, we fucking crushed the
first six or seven picks. That's right.
Because that's the year that Iyuk was going ahead of Debo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was like a 7th rounder.
Yeah. So that was the alpha play,
right, Right. The alpha play mentions that was
the alpha play broadcast. Yes.
You want to talk about an alpha play recapping the best team
we've all drafted, maybe not Leone, but certainly the three
of us. I think it was like we did a
show recapping it to recap it with alpha play after every pick
and they turn out to be alpha plays.
Yes, it's a real alpha play, Leone.
It was. They're talking.
About at the end of the year we also recapped.
Remember when you went back and watched the stream and then we
did another stream with Leone and recapped the the draft at
the end of? The I don't actually remember
that, but. That sounds.
You like made little notes about the things that we talked about
during the actual draft. We did it in like December.
It was great. The So just for the team we're
drafting night. So one quarterback for the
starting lineup. 2 running backs, 3 wide receiver, one
tight end, one flex, one team kicker, one team defense.
Specialteams 24 bench spots. There is both an individual
league prize as well as the overall top prize.
So the overall one here, 30K up top.
And this is a week's one through 17 cumulative scoring, right?
Yep, Yep. How many?
Do you have a read on how many ship chasers got into this one?
It's about even. There's about half ship chasers,
half NFC regs. This is gonna be a hell of a
time. This would be.
I wanna circle back to our 5K team, Nick Kosentinos in the
chat. He was a part of the FF, the Go
Bills team that won the FFPC main event that year, he said.
That team sounds familiar, cuz remember we had like the exact
same team as they did over in FFPC that won the main event and
that team was so good and it was in a 5K standalone league.
But we had enough total points that if you looked at the NFC
prime time leaderboard we would have been like top ten if we if
it had been drafted as a as a prime Time Team a $1700 buy in
as opposed to a 5K standalone league.
And we are like man, we I mean it's not like we had weaker
competition in the 5K. We had probably stronger
competition. We're playing against all all
the hardest score grinders, basic the chance raters in our
league. All these, you know, studs are
in our league and we drafted a team that.
Could have contended for the prime, the overall title for the
prime time. Very similar team go Bills
drafted did win the FFPC Championship.
That team was awesome. Sorry, I just wanted to do some
more reminiscing about it. Tommy Holly just buried me in
the chat. Yeah.
Pat get Yeah. I'm surprised you got out of bed
for 30K. I'm.
Getting I'm getting a bed for far less.
That's got 30. K Palms that he's entered right
now. Exactly.
So what? Tell me, Pat, what?
What happened earlier today? We got a few minutes before this
dream starts. You had a 45 minute discussion
about Dalton Kincaid with chess Liam.
That sounds like a horror movie. So I was like trying to cuz he
he pulled up his exposures. I I got the sense he was
hesitant to actually show the people how much don't Kincaid
he's drafted. He finally got to the point
where he pulled up his underdog exposures Show the world that
this man has drafted. 50% Dalton Kincaid in his underdog draft so
far Can't be real. Is that across his whole
portfolio, just BBM or? Maybe BBM but he's like 87 draft
steep. So it's a meaningful amount.
It's a meaningful stance and we went back and forth for a long
time. It was sort of the like the next
level of the Mike Kazuki debate, except this one, I think I'm.
Because you know the price on Gossicky is at least extremely
palatable whereas Dalton, Kincaid, you're paying a
premium. But I was just noting that you
know teams don't run 12 is like a base personnel certainly not
for passing downs pointing out what route rates would be like
and Liam was countering quite effectively with bills go Burr
and we went on like that for about 45 minutes and honestly I
really missed it. I had a great time.
I'm glad Liam's back from Vegas. I thought you were gonna say you
missed the Were you convinced by the argument?
Did you leave wanting to take more Dalton Kincaid?
No, no, he's lost his mind. Is he?
Is he being price conscious? What's?
And I should say I'm doing 2 shows with Liam tomorrow so I
can add, is he like trying to get ADP discounts because you
will get Kincaid falling in rooms?
Or is he the one? Is he the only one anchoring his
ADP in the 120 S or? Here's here's what I'm saying.
He thinks the the rookie tight ends don't produce narrative is
a dumb narrative. And he's overweight Laporta.
He's overweight mayor. This isn't purely adult and
Kincaid thing. But no, I don't.
It's not incentive. It's not a narrative.
When there's data behind it, it's it's a trend.
He thinks he's. Poking holes in the trend,
saying a lot of these guys have bad quarterback play.
Some of them, you know, Evan Ingram did actually have quite a
good season. So he's going give me the guys
this year, better prospects, good quarterback play.
OK, so yeah, that's fair. He's making that bet generally,
not just Kincaid. However, I don't see how it's
possible that he could be being price conscious because he has.
50% oh man. You know how this is gonna go
though. Like literally no one runs pure
than Liam. Like, I mean, this guy just son
runs everything. I mean, no, no.
Yeah. It makes.
Oh, I was sure he was gonna win the World Series poker.
Whatever. It's gonna work.
I mean, it's gonna be a good pick.
No, it's gonna work. And the victory laps are gonna
be incredible and I'm not even gonna be tilted by them.
I'm just. Gonna I'm looking forward.
Listen, I was. Everything I said today was.
I won the battle of logic. Which is important because he's
eventually going to completely crush this take and then make a
clip of everything I said. But I know in my heart I was
right. All right, we are off to the
races. I'm going to have my work cut
out to me servicing the audio listeners.
Greg did tell us that these things fly.
We have 4 picks off the board very quickly here.
Like I said, we are picking from the 8th spot.
Here it goes. Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase
Cooper Cup, Christian McCaffrey, Ty Reek Hill.
Are there any guys you guys are specifically eyeing here in the
first round? That's a good question, because
we're going to have. The worst pet cuz we forgot to
set the the KDS. The ship chasers very dutifully
to set their KDS and they said Pete, we got a draft spot two
days ago so we got the 108 which is not ideal.
Although Kelsey going in this early in this format too.
I'm not convinced that I like and especially like when we did
our 10K last year too. And you see how much the tight
end slide in this format even relative to like Underdog, you
know where there are other single tight end formats digs
go. So Eckler.
Eckler is here. Yeah, which seems like I.
Love Eckler in this one. Both.
I wouldn't take Eckler 6 in this format.
I think that's a pretty nice situation for us.
All right, So we do get Eckler because then you are in that
spot, right, where you're kind of looking at Diggs and A.J.
Brown. You're debating, do you pull
someone else up? I guess the other one would be,
do you take if Eckler's gone, do you just take Bijon?
Is I think the other question. That's a good question.
I was thinking digs and then maybe get Alan on the way back
because you do kind of want to lock up your QBs as a longer
draft. We're gonna probably want 3 QBs
with the extra roster spots. I think going early QB might
make sense, or at least being willing to pull the trigger.
So like a digs Alan start would have been something I would have
been in for. Yeah CD Lamb comes off the
board, then Devante Adams, then Bijon at the 11:00 and then we
got our pal Jacob Sanderson here out of the 12 hole.
We'll see what he does here at the the.
Turn goes into brown. I mean, that's a hell of a 12.
Nice working Garrett Wilson. What's the meta build for 34
round format? So yeah, I was actually in my
Sims today looking at it and it is, It's a 4/16/16, 14, it's. 2
pills. Yeah, no, I that is gonna be
behind the pitch. Yeah, 310.
You. Gotta pay for. 10/18/30 I don't
know. I mean kicker, I will say I
guess Gretch did some legit homework for this.
Clearly we didn't do a bunch of homework collectively, but
Gretch got us some deep. We have a deep stack options
spreadsheet here that is making me feel far more prepared than I
should. Yeah, I I'm very happy that
Gretch put this together. It's just a list of I went
through my projections, I was like, these are the teams, I
think it's concentrated. These are the teams where in
this format might make sense to be taking additional stack
options late. So kind of useful.
Shorthand to have, I guess. So the green is where we should
be talking about, yeah, yeah, Green's good yellow.
There's some options. Red are the ones where I think
it's concentrated and there's probably not like any benefit to
the extra rounds cuz there's not really additional options that
make sense from those rosters. It is interesting here,
everyone, just to be clear, when they're saying yellow isn't
quite as good on our board, yellow is good.
So Devonta Smith, the wide receiver's flying off the board.
Jonathan Taylor is here. If we want to do that, let's.
Let's swerve into the skid here and take Jonathan Taylor and see
if we. I like it.
Yeah, Yeah, I mean, once, once Devonta Smith comes off the
board, I mean, you're down to what the Higgins.
Well, we could have taken, we could have taken a lava there,
yeah. But I I like the I like the
Taylor pick. That's fun.
Yeah, let's get our anchor RBS. We know that like late.
It's still early in training camp and everything.
The late picks are more likely to be dead picks.
Talk about this in underdog at the running back position.
I don't think you can just stack up running backs in round
25262728. You're going to need to get some
running backed up thoroughly. The extra rounds are going to
help at receiver where you literally could draft 14
receivers. Like we were just joking about
that, but like we there's going to be guys that run routes that
are available. In the 24th, 25th, 26th round,
that's that's what the spreadsheet was for and
everything. So we just got two really good
running backs to start. I like that a lot.
I think that's the position that's obviously going to run
out and you're going to have some dead picks quicker than
than wide receiver. If you're trying to score the
most points over 17 weeks, it'd be helpful to hit on the
legendary season at a running back, you know.
So I like that we're taking a shot.
Me Taylor is is. It's a little tougher in a PPR
format, but. He's so he's so good.
Everyone's talking about Barkley in the chat, John saying I guess
the quiet part out loud for us. I mean, I'm JT firmly over
Barkley I. Don't know.
Yeah, I'm JT for you guys. I'm sort of a run to the podium
JT over Barkley. I did move Barkley over Pollard
because I my rankings today because I assumed that the
market was going to go that way and Pollard has risk of of Zeke
signing and stuff. But I don't really Barkley.
He's a good breakaway runner but that it's kind of a volume play
in a lot of ways at this point but he projects for a lot of
volume. They're they're pretty just for
a lot of volume. They also play no huddle at a
really high rate. They were top three in the
league and no huddle during situation neutral last year.
That was a you know Brian dable thing that he brought over which
was nice to see and and the run heavy too though.
And then they they do throw to Barkley a decent amount And then
he like, like his backup is Matt Breed.
It like it's not. You're not.
There's no more holdout risk. Like you're going to get a lot,
a lot of Barkley work. It feels like a guy who can be
in my projections he came out very, very high because that's
projected volume is going to be there for a guy like him.
It came out RB 3 in my projections.
I just tapped over like. That's the type of volume we're
talking about. But I agree.
I mean, I I take Taylor ahead of him.
I, stealing signal Subs will know that I wrote, wow, I love
it. Made it all the way back to
Sanderson at 301. No receiver went crashing.
What a start that is. What a start.
That's where the third round reversal even things out.
Or in Jacob's case, gives him a very.
Edge start, yeah. Definitely noting that the
Cowboys also play a lot on the huddle, they.
Did. Play a lot of.
Yeah. This is a McCarthy offense now.
But yeah, I was saying that the signal Subs will know that I
was. I wrote a lot of words about
Jonathan Taylor in a recent offseason stealing signals post.
But I'm with you guys run into the podium on that.
He's an elite talent. Things gotta break his way.
But I mean the guy we wanna be in on elite talents.
So we're gonna have kind of another decision here.
As far as you know, Ramondre is available.
Or we can dip into the wide receiver Debo, a guy who I
believe is the. I would be Andrews or Andrews.
Yeah, I think Andrews gives us, makes this like that's a guy We
cannot, we cannot piece together Mark Andrews later.
If he has the season. I think he can have, yeah.
It's just I'm in on it. Just structurally, yeah.
If you think that tight end is as valuable.
Ramondre Wow. I do a lot of it.
T. We're we're wide receiver 15.
Yeah. So it would be Debo, but this is
like the start of like that pretty long flat tier.
If we just want to Yeah, tight end and then we're just pissing
hard. I think we just piss after this,
but we get, we get Andrews, let's do it, let's go Andrews.
I'm good with it because also, I mean we we should piss a lot.
But the 4-5 turn with the third round reversal, either of those
spots could be at Lamar Jackson pick as well.
Get some anchors at those spots and then start pissing.
Get onesie anchors, get 2 anchor running backs.
I don't think Jack Jackson will come back though.
See the chat is like you need to piss like 7 and 8 rounds in a
row. You do in underdog.
We got 34 rounds to play with you.
You guys don't realize we're literally going to take 14
receivers like we're. I also think I've so I have
drafted some of these leaves before.
I don't think I did any last year but I did it like a like a
handful like 5 or 6 in 2021 and they were quite running back
heavy. So I'm expecting that we'll
that's why I asked how many ship chasers are in this room,
because if they're at all like they usually are, I think we'll
be okay and you know around like 8 at wide receiver, which allows
us to do all three of our detours basically at the very
top. So we do start.
Austin Eckler, Jonathan Taylor, Mark Andrews.
What do you guys think about Jamir Gibbs and Naji Harris
going ahead of Ramadre? I could.
I mean, I think you could talk me into Gibbs.
Yeah, that's where I'm at. I think those are different
questions. That's two different questions.
I don't know what what the nausea drafter was doing.
Yeah, Naji drafter starts Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes and then
Naji, the Gibbs drafter started Diggs and Breece Hall.
Also notable how early Breece Hall went here relative to where
we see him go on other sites. Going ahead of Pollard, ahead of
Barkley, ahead of Chub. You know, obviously I think
drafters reacting. A little bit more to the full
point PPR here, but they don't react to that on the FFPC full
point PPR. You know where Chub is?
Still always in early pick, so definitely some interesting
deviations there. Guys, the chat is killing us.
Just tuned in. Zero pissed on the board.
There's a lot of so much tea. Something about this has the
counselor stamp of approval is another one.
The chat does not like what we have done here so far.
This is, here's the thing. This is how my pros versus Joe's
draft started, right? I started CMC, Andrews, Lamar.
Everyone loses the faith. Here's the thing that the chat
doesn't know. They don't know that we're going
to deliver for them and it's like they're watching a movie.
We are the architects of their experience tonight.
They should know what's about to happen.
But they. They just can't.
They can't just like it out. It's like one of those.
It's like a superhero movie where like the the first like 10
minutes, like I'm not gonna do the superhero stuff.
I'm retired from being a superhero.
And then something happens. You have to get back out there
and be a superhero again. That's what's gonna happen.
Okay. Right.
Chill out. Is Sanderson streaming?
I love that they wanna watch someone who's actually drafting
receivers. It is about.
That then, yeah, we're gonna
he's gonna come in and replace us and have to scream.
I mean well to. Be honest, it is.
If you want, that is you wanna take over for 45 minutes, you
can have it. That is what happens every year,
right, is we have to dust off the bit of like, hey, our teams
over here know, you know, falling in love with other
teams. Like you guys are here to
support ship chasing. You don't get to like other
rosters. You tell us how brilliant and
how great all of our decisions are.
That's how this works. Eyes up here.
Yeah or you get muted. I mean comments will better show
up again. All right, Beth, I got, I got, I
got something to float here that the Chad's not going to like.
This is 6 point per pass TD. Very favorable for passing yards
format. Justin Herbert is I think a
really good pick. We already have Eckler.
We can back stack in with Mike Williams, Quinton Johnson or
Gerald Everett later, and that's where I started.
Throw more. They're gonna throw more than
any team in the league with Kellan Moore now, I feel like, I
don't know. Is there a hope we go receiver
here here. OK, receiver would be Mclaurin,
Christian Watson, DJ Moore. We could do DJ Moore and see if
Fields happens to come back, but Fields is not as good in this
format where you the passing numbers are really important.
The only always tells us this when we do the draft.
The receivers are already a little bit drying up.
I think we should get one of this too, but it's so flat.
I'm kind of team member here. It is.
It is Draft doesn't. Gretchen.
The draft doesn't care what you what your needs are Pat.
We can't fix the receiver thing. Yeah, it's maneuver.
Rule I've been overruled. Just the chat was giving me for
for this high T star and I just want you to know it's not me
now. Hey, Pat, I just want it.
You know, Pat, it's kind of like this thing where it's kind of
like a movie in it's just the 1st 10 minutes and you kind of
don't know how it's good to hit. But trust me, Ben French and I,
we're like, you're directing it. We're we're in act two now and
the fucking dude's still sitting on his couch.
He's not getting up and saving anybody.
He's really good. He had a chance.
This is like a dark superhero movie where he's like, I'll let
a few people die. I'm gonna let some things
happen. The audience is like, Oh my God,
is he gonna, is he gonna do something?
Why is he still? Drinking beer and eating pizza.
What's he going on? We are officially the only team
without a wide receiver through 4 rounds.
Oh God guys. The piss boys are dead.
Long live the piss, boys. The Jeff loves the Herbert pick.
Justin Herbert in this format is a legit really good fourth round
pick and we got Eckler as well tied to him.
I actually love this start. This is such a good start.
Well. You know what?
He is a pretty good pick. I gotta say, he's a good pick.
We just pushed it. As long as we don't get boxed
out, it's a higher up side. Way to play it for sure.
It's a higher up. Yeah, he's gonna he might lead
the league in passing yards this year.
Like they're gonna run a lot of place.
The Which that is in shambles right now.
Normally I would say that this isn't a fair question to ask,
but it is probably a fair question to ask.
It's actually quite interesting, you know.
Yeah, God, I do not like being in this position.
Thank you, Stephanie. We need more people like
Stephanie hyping our picks. Kellen will be good for Herbert.
Amen a DKB here. Herbert has a legit chance to
have been worth an early 1st in this format.
Can't say the same about the wide receivers available I
think. Thank you as well, but.
There's a couple of people that are.
Best Best available Wide receivers DJ More Terry
Mclaurin, Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman Mike Williams
might get a boost here. Deonte Johnson, Brandon Ayuk, If
we're serious about this Chargers thing in a yeah, in the
total points format. Feels like a Mike Williams pick
for sure. What you guys think about bully
tight end here a little, George. Is there is there a right a
running back value anywhere? Pete that you can find.
I don't really buy this JK Dobbins holdout stuff.
I mean, I say we put our put our nuts on the table here, bring on
Dobbins to this slide all. Right.
Let's get Let's get Mike Williams.
Yeah, I assume Williams makes sense here, right?
Yeah. What were the other names?
I would. You remember Christian Kur?
Pitman. Deontay, Johnson.
Ayuk Evans. Yeah, I like Williams there.
Mclaurin might have been the one you could have sold me on, but
he goes ahead of us. I take Mclaurin over Williams,
but I would have taken Williams with this team.
I think with this team, Yeah, what a nice start.
Wow, look at the Lac stack is very fun.
Yeah, did you guys know that Kellen Moore's gonna really turn
around that offense? So that's kind of my thesis with
this team. They I mean you have a
quarterback that's led offenses that have led the league in play
volume. Then you also and and typically
play volume and pace comes down to the quarterback in the OC.
But you also now have an OC who joins whose offenses have always
led the league in. Sorry, I.
Just. What a great thing.
I know Ashton's saying he loves Herbert, but it sounds like I'm
screaming I love Herbert. That's that is very good.
It also looks like he's screaming at the YouTube button
to. Please subscribe and like the
stream. Now, Ashton, can you comment?
I love, I love lamp. Or is it I like whatever.
The anchor. Bank quote is yeah, exactly,
exactly. I was just doing a thing about
the pairing of the OC and the quarterback when I did the
projections pod with Leoni, he they had the Chargers projected
for two full more place per game than any other team.
That's an insane number. Like 2 plays per game, 34 plays
per year is I is like I I think my highest team is like 3 or 4
plays above league average. So to be two plays above every
other team. I think he said they might bring
that down but like that was their initial pass when they did
like some you know some of their numbers and and where they were
sitting at that moment. I projected them for the most
plays in the league by a solid margin as well, just not quite
that much. That's why I'm using his numbers
as an example. But like, if you really get into
the numbers, you're like, the charges are gonna run a fucked
out of place. They're gonna run Maybe not just
the most plays in the league. Maybe the most plays in the
league by a lot. Yeah, I like what's happening so
far in this room. Jacob's ETN Walker, right?
We're getting enough running backs off the board or I'm
starting to feel like we're gonna.
We're gonna skip here are what you're saying?
As we kind of starved the Beast at running back and now
everyone's really scrambling, we start with these.
That's the first Star of the Beast reference in 2023, I
think. Yeah, we got stop looking,
lusting after other teams. You know, we're starting to play
all the old, old hits right now. Well.
Team one might take a running back here.
Justin Jefferson, Jalen Hertz, Keenan Allen, Calvin Ridley.
You guys seeing these Calvin Ridley highlights on the on the
timeline today practice. Yeah, Sam Sherman is D Ming them
to me in our ADP Chasing chat. I just, I I wrote it up for the
newsletter tomorrow too and it's just like, man, this this fade
on Calvin Ridley. It's gonna be real paid.
It's gonna be bad, yeah. Yeah, I will say he goes right
after Zay Jones. And Zay Jones looks like he's
like skidding in a puddle and then and then Calvin Ridley
looks like he's a human man running.
So I might be a Zay Jones thing. It's it's a Zay Jones thing.
It also might be like a marketing thing.
Like, what if they're like slipping Zay some money, having
him go look really bad out there, and then just really
trying to artificially make Calvin Ridley look better than
everyone? They're giving him the Slow Mode
treatment. Over there.
There's probably like a trampoline there underneath the
turf where he was able to help it get that high on that catch.
I'm a I'm a Calvin Ridley Highlight Truther is what?
I'm trying to say I'm following all of this.
This makes sense. All right, so we do have George
Kittle and Kyle Pitts go off the board here in the sixth round.
Do you guys feel good about the Andrews?
Price because obviously they wouldn't have came back to the
6th but you we could have gotten them in the 5th would have been
where we would have had to have taken the tight end.
That's a win to me. Yeah yeah.
Andrews Mike will verse like Debo Kittle or Debo pits is the
two V2 right. I mean I think I'm taking
Andrews I Andrews is I'm taking Andrews.
Mike Will over Debo pits all day.
Yeah, he's good. It would have been fun if if
Lamar slid, but that just wasn't going to happen, I think.
No. So Dotson comes off the board.
We pick here in a few best available just looking at how
they're sorted by ADP in the applet.
Michael Pittman, Mike Evans, George Pickens.
Cadarius. What?
Tony.
Trailing Burks, Gabe Davis? Jordan Addison on ADP.
Yeah. I think we are going to like our
next two receivers and then it'll start, then it'll start.
It's going to, yeah, we're going to get three before the window
slams shut and then it's. Going to be, it's going to be
dicey, but we have like legit our starting lineup.
It's going to be tough to beat guys.
It's going to be legit anchored at every position.
Yeah, Ryan says. Only 28 rounds to go.
I meant to say whoever. So on the NFFC they do have.
A stat that shows how long. We're up.
What's What they're doing next?
Yeah. Who do we want?
I'm good with Pitman. We have JT, too, so we've
already kind of made a bet on the Colts being good.
I think I would lean Evans over Pitman, but I would be fine with
Pitman as well. Where are you at, Pat?
Do you think the ADP means anything or I'd probably lose
Pitman over? Yeah, let's do Pitman then.
I don't like those bets together.
Personally, I don't think they have to be.
It's not like a gauntlet, uncorrelated tournament.
It's season long, scoring like we want the Colts to be.
Yeah, let's go fit, man. Let's go fit, man.
I think if it the why wouldn't you want like you don't think
that Pittman and Taylor like having both great seasons is
correlated to like Richardson being great and the Colts being
great. Pittman is like a volume
receiver if Richardson's really good in the ways that I mean.
It's specifically like a macro take for me about the ways that
rushing quarterbacks like QB rushing is on the rise in the
league, particularly last year. Offenses used it as a way to
combat the two deep shells, the multifaceted run game, QB
rushing and running back rushing.
I think Taylor's upside with Richardson is like Richardson's
athleticism allows him to run for legit like 2K yards.
I mean I think he could be like a like a crazy rush efficiency
type guy and I just, I mean it's not the only outcome.
But if that happens, yeah, Pitman can score more
touchdowns. It's good for the offense and
everything. But yeah, yeah, but it's not
good for Pitman's particular like high reception profile but
he can score some touchdowns and stuff Like it's not.
It's just, I just don't like it's not a bet on the with
Russian quarterbacks. I think it does get tricky to
just be like yeah, I'm betting on the offense because like the
Russian court like it. It changes the run pass.
Especially when it's like a runner and A and a receiver
like. But like Marquis Brown was an
awesome pick in Lamar Jackson's MVP season.
You know, Mark Andrews was a great pick.
I I get Lamar Jackson's MVP season.
He threw for some huge numbers. I don't think that's what we're
going to get out of register passing.
Well, fair enough. Fair enough.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's not going to win MVP. The idea is like he could be
good enough for Taylor to to put up some huge rushing numbers,
but like also not be good enough for the passing game.
Like Justin Fields kind of was, or Daniel Jones.
Like the Giants didn't really have any great receiving
weapons, but Sekwan had a Goodyear last year.
Atlanta obviously. Another example where like the
running backs had stretches. Algier Late was a must start
player, but like the receivers were frustrating.
Yeah, that's sort of the bull case for Indianapolis's offense
to me. But anyway, Evans goes.
We've got other options here. So Jordan Addison, Gabe Davis or
those are a little bit down the list, but those would be pretty
high on my. List of guys.
It's also having the conversation.
Quinton Johnson's probably not coming back.
So if you want Quinton, unless. You have to do it.
Yeah, let's do it. If we have another guy, it's
him. Pickens escape.
He's in a tier with these guys. He's in the same tier.
I would say. Let's just take him.
Yeah, guys, I didn't say Richardson's rushing for 2K
yards. I said Jonathan Taylor could
rush for 2K yards. Keep up chat.
Chat's saying. I said that Tre Lance would rush
for 2K yards last year. He would have.
He didn't break his leg. No, I'm just kidding.
That's not what I said. And it's Dude, did you did you
read that article in The Athletic about Kyle Shannan and
and him talking about Brock Purdy?
Trey Lance can? He is fucking in love that loves
Brockford. Like he could literally be the
MVP this year on any other team. But he's not sniffing the field
Chanahan is in. That loves Brockford.
Yeah, he was talking about how he like took like a rib shot and
was like in so, so much pain. I actually can't remember if it
was ribs or something else, but he was in like a ton of pain.
He's like waiting for some injection and they were like,
he's like, I don't think he can play.
And then Brock was like. I think I can do it.
They like went out there and like continues to rip it.
And Shanae was just like, that's what I knew.
The guy like he loves Brock Purdy.
Do you think, Do you think, uh, Shanahan's getting, like,
inundated with shirtless picks from all of his players now?
Yeah, setting up. They're like shit.
Brock's like or Trey Lance. I just Trey, Lance, absolutely.
It's like a bunch of pushups and said Kyle Shanahan, A photo of
myself. Shirtless Kyle. 53 dudes are
sending you shirtless picks, it might be.
You. Yeah, what's the common
denominator? Exactly.
All right. So our team here through 7
rounds, Austin Eckler, Jonathan Taylor, Mark Andrews, Justin
Herbert, Mike Williams, Michael Pitman, Quinton Johnston here.
And then we do see some of these other wide receivers come off
the board, Pickens, Gabe Davis. But we do have some running
backs now coming here. I think we still are going to
like a couple wide receivers. We might actually like our next
two wide receivers, too. It might not just be one more.
I'm feeling really good about how we played this.
Thank you for getting this on to Herbert.
That was that was a smart move. It's a fun fucking team right
now. I mean, you have really.
I'm really happy. I'm really happy with Andrews
and and Herbert. And wait until around 5:00 to
take wide, receive wide receivers deep.
OK? Take wide receiver early.
This is villainous. The All right, so the wide
receivers at the top based on ADP Cadarius, Tony Trailenberg's
Cortland Sutton, Brandon Cooks, Jameson Williams.
Where like, where have you guys mentally slotted Cadarius Tony
now? Like you don't have to do.
I was trying to think about this actually.
Like really thinking about this, where would I take him?
And I was like, OK, 12th round comes around.
I still think there are running backs.
I like that. I really like in the 12th round
that I would prefer there about 13th or 14th.
When you start to get past that like interesting running back
grouping, you're kind of past the interesting tight ends.
I think I would take a shot on Cadari's, Tony's upside at that
point. But like it's literally to me, I
think it's round 13 is when I when I could finally click.
I've I've been a major Cadari's Tony Bear throughout the process
as you as you all know. But I I would take him in the
late 90s is is kind of where I landed on him.
Are you taking before or after Jamison Williams?
I feel like that's a I'm taking him before Jamison Williams
right? He's on a he's on an offense.
We want pieces of more he that's a more wide open wide receiver
core. Certainly Kels is going to suck
up a lot of targets, but we we also probably feel a little bit
better about like what could Aris Tony can do from a target
earning perspective And most importantly, we do not guarantee
to miss the first six games. That's a good point, but I
don't. Pick first and then we can and
then we can do it. So Flowers comes off the board.
I think Bateman's the best pick on the board right now.
Sutton, Jamison Williams. Juju.
Yeah, Michael Thomas, you guys down for Bateman?
Yeah, Bateman, I'm just. I'm just thinking, yeah, Bateman
won't come back. So no, OK, I love that.
That's a great thing. Sorry, keep going on, Tony.
No I was I was done So oh I was saying that the six game
suspension is a really good point.
I I do think James and Williams is a like I I I hear your point
on the we don't know about the target earning but like he was a
good enough prospect that got drafted high enough that like
the default does need to be somewhat favorable.
I mean, we haven't seen a ton of him playing and that is an
issue, but there's a reason. He was a what was he a top ten
pick? Wasn't he like like 8th overall
or something? I can't remember how high he
was. Drake Glennon was 8th overall.
I think he was Jameson 12 or something.
He was. He was the first half of the
first round, didn't it go Wilson 10, and then Williams 12 and
then the lava was like 14. I can't remember exactly 12.
The chat saying 1212, that sounds right.
So he went, he went high, obviously.
They they have you know reason to to get stuff out of him.
We have like I I I think one of the the sort of rookie mental
things that I do is just like assuming these guys are like as
good as their profiles say they're they are because it's so
easy that we haven't seen them yet.
We don't know anything about Jameson Williams.
It has been a rocky couple years or year or whatever.
Before we're actually going to get like full playing time out
of him. But I mean, he can be a legit
star. I mean, he's a guy that I
remember last year, like Sean was saying, like, he thinks he.
Could be like the best player receiver in that class, like
before we saw any of them play. But like when he finally was
playing like from a profile perspective down the line, look
back and say I was more skeptical of him as a prospect
as part of it. I mean he he had to he had to
transfer transfer. He wasn't great at all.
That's that's like a that's an important red flag I think.
Yeah. That's fair.
But the Tony stuff is like, Tony wasn't a great prospect and the
Tony injury history is long. It's like he, Tony has a lot of
issues with with staying on the field at this point where like
it's hard to trust any of it. We're back on the clock.
I mean, are we going to roll it? Yeah, There we go.
What about you don't want to do something here?
No, I want to roll it. Rather roll it.
I mean, Sutton's a good thing. I I think, like all bits aside,
I think it's a it's a legit conversation.
Sky more verse. Uh verse.
Sutton, right? Now, Sutton, they're they're in
a similar range for sure. Any piece or bike 5 pics apart?
Yeah, I mean just for old times. Say I can't.
I thought this clip was dead. It's never.
Dying more too wise. It's the fucking sickest name
I've ever seen for a wide receiver, in my goddamn way.
Sky's up. It's the one that you had asked
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We've got a lot of different gaming options.
We're going to be drafting them more this year.
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It looks like 5 spots already full.
I think they just got this up there.
So seven more spots to draft with us next week.
You can get $15 off with Provo Code Ship 15, although we could
see if we can get them to add Provo code feed.
We might as well. We need a Provo code beat.
Like, big time. Yeah, Ryan Ryan called me out
for the week 17 correlation. First of all, this is a.
Like season long contest. So it's not the week 17
correlation they're worried about, but it's divisional
correlation. They play the two games.
I like that. Good correlation.
That's smart. That's smart.
Also, Sky Moore gets you that too.
Yes, fair point. We get 10 games of Sky.
This is. This is definitely a format
where we can dig deep into our clip repository here.
I mean, even JJ Taylor's probably in play with.
Yeah, rounds here. David Bell clip.
There's no way this isn't on this team.
The chat? No.
The whole reason we're playing 34 round drafts is to get our
clips of action. Honestly, might roll the Denzel
Mims clip. I'm not kidding, I thought.
I've seen Mims go on the 18th round of some underdog drafts
lately. Hell yes, man.
Romeo Dobbs is not gonna get rolled.
He goes 1001. It is true.
Have you guys seen the the Laviska hype dude?
I would, I don't. I don't think it's happening,
man. When you actually like read the
Frank Reich stuff, he's like he said some shit.
Like, yeah, I think we're basically, we're like, he's
saying like we're gonna Dick around.
That's what he's saying. We're gonna Dick around with
Laviska in the backfield. And he's like.
We don't have to have it all figured out by week one.
Like we can kind of let it build, but the momentum grow.
I'm like you've thought about this.
Not at all. You put so little.
Yeah, but you know what? That is, you know what that is?
That's him going, man. Adam Thielen looks dusted in the
workouts, man. Jonathan Mingo is a really good
athlete, but the dude doesn't know how to play wide receiver,
man. We got to figure something out.
No, no, Maybe love this cuz you know we'll start doing we'll
start dicking around with this guy cuz we don't know what the
fuck we're gonna do. It's back.
They have a terribly constructed wide receiver route.
Like, it's not great. They're free agent ads.
They're rookie decision. None of that was like
particularly strong for a rookie quarterback.
The free agent. I think Paris, Marshall and
Visca are legitimately their best upside plays.
So maybe it is Visca. Best wide receivers available by
a DP right now. Cadaris, Tony, Alan Lazard, Zay
Jones, Odell Beckham, Tyler Boyd, Darnell Mooney, Rondell
Moore, KJ Osbourne, Nico Collins, DPJ.
The running backs you got like Brian Robinson, Semaj P Ryan up
there. What do you?
Guys, I think we could go with Brian Robinson maybe or Rondell
Moore or Nico Collins. Those will be the guys that jump
out to me. I like that.
I like Nico and Rondo I I'm nearly out on Brian Robinson
personally and I I think we should go receiver.
Let's go ronde ronde more, get I.
Will say Nico's definitely not coming back as Jacob loves him
more than life itself. You just took Tony.
Yeah, I did. What the fuck dude?
Could Arius, Tony. I put Rondell in the queue.
Why did you do that? What the fuck?
I just wanted to. I just wanted to see your feet.
I put Rondell in the. Is this what happened during the
draft for the Giants? Did they misclick?
I'm Rondell Moore, but they've tried to drop.
Around the morning. Look how happy.
Why didn't that happen? Why did that happen?
I I could explain it, but I'd rather not.
We got Carried Canary's Tony in the tenth round.
I just said I'd take him in the 13th, I mean.
It's great because you asked us when we would take him.
Pat said he would take him over Jameson Williams.
So I mean, Pat's do exactly PAT. Pat's actually excited about
that pic. That's a different tournament
format, though. It is a different tournament
format. The the well my.
Thought is Chargers twice you you get Sky more weeks one
through 8 and then you get Tony week 9 and then you get Sky
Moore weeks 10. Tony, I did the chat is calling
me out because this is where I said I would take Tony.
And they're right. I did say that.
That's right. I love the Tony toe though.
You nailed that. That was very well done.
Yeah, I do like this idea. We just take all of the Chiefs
wide receivers. I mean, we're guaranteed to only
be moderately wrong. Yeah, yeah.
Should we get Rashi Rice next? Yeah.
I mean, I like rice. I do like Rice, but I also gotta
find his way on this team. I don't know why we don't have a
Justin Ross clip, but I want to roll that clip too.
Justin Ross does feel like a guy.
We should have a clip. For we should definitely have a
clip for Justin Ross. I want to be in on that breakup.
I want to tilt Davis as as the Justin Ross drum beat gets gets
louder. And louder.
Kyle Dvorche gots talking to him today.
He's like, this guy hasn't played since 2012.
I'm like, dude, somebody make us a Justin Ross clip, Pete.
Were you giving people goodies for making us clips?
What's the deal there? Yeah, Although I think a lot of
people are kind of sick of all the editing back and forth that
I make them do. And so kind of the CLIP pipeline
has dried up. They want to deal with my my
director vision. I experienced that too, guys.
I I I knew what it was like. I made it down pretty.
I did not. The Fed Grudge clip never saw
the light of day? Yeah, exactly.
Hey, it happens. It happens, guys.
We do have to think about quarterback as these guys start
coming off top quarterbacks Anthony Richardson, Derek Carr,
Jordan Love. Matthew Stafford.
Kyler Murray, Kenny Pickett. Yeah, Anthony Richardson is the
guy redemption. I'm getting ready.
Yes, Roger, I'm already back. Yes.
No, Anthony Richardson would have been a Pat.
This is a this is a six point passing TD League.
Yeah, Anthony Richardson. Fairly draftable.
He is, but he's legit. Like, not a very good pick in
the 11th round when you have Pittman and Jonathan Taylor.
I disagree we're. Going to be stand alone?
We already bet on him in a huge way.
We'll take Kyler. Knows him.
Come on, you got to give me that one.
We should have taken Richards in there.
We bet on Gardner Minshew. You just don't realize it yet.
No, that was. That's a missed opportunity.
I love that we got Rondell Moore.
I'm with you, I love. I'm not.
I'm not gonna miss click and then not take the guy we were
trying to to take coming back when we also need a shit ton of
wide receivers. Yeah, this I love 7 receivers
are great. We love how righteous you are
about getting Rondell Moore after you miss clicked and
didn't get him in the first. I mean it's.
I'm not gonna miss. Click OK.
It's God's. Get what does God say?
He says if you love something, you let it go.
And if it's meant to be, it'll come back.
That's exactly what happened. And then you're like, oh, let me
just move on to the next shiny thing.
Now, yeah, let me let me follow structure.
You know, let me think about structure.
We flew. We threw structure out the
window a long time ago. Now see, this is, this is how we
get Gretch back on board with the Michael Pittman picky.
And let's go. You take if.
We get Minchu in round 37. I'm in exactly.
The process a little bit of a reach, but I'm down exactly.
So we got, we got 7 receivers now we do have to think about
other positions. Now we've pissed for a while we
can circle back on receiver. We got to start getting some
Qb's. We got to start getting maybe a
little bit of tighter and probably not tight in depth yet,
but it's definitely some running backs.
We're in that that area of the draft.
I would say the least important thing for our team right now is
probably tied in too, just based on, yeah, yeah, this format, the
market and taker, the available options late.
We can, we can start thinking about tight end again.
I'd say around around 15, yeah, something like that.
I was gonna say about around 24. It just doesn't sound real, but
the quarterback, Quarterback is is important for us now.
I think. Yes, it is, yeah.
And quarterbacks are coming off the board here.
They're coming off real quick, Rich.
And such a. Who could we stack, Pete?
Who do we have that we can stack up for our quarterbacks?
Tyler Murray. Tyler Yeah.
Kyler would be a good thing. The licking, licking, licking.
It appears to be just Kyler. Time to set up some backdoor
stacks, baby. Yeah, if only had like, a real
sweet stack that we talked about.
The whole We're gonna be great. Wait, oh, Pete, go to my
spreadsheet and let's figure out some names off there.
Yeah, I see. Jalen Reger.
I see. He's in red.
He is in red. That that's all lashing out
after Pete misclicked, he had to come back and wait for Reger.
Now what are you gonna say, Mac Moss?
Do you see Zach Moss in there too?
I've tried to find the most obscure names on here that I
could possibly I didn't even know Trey Quan was still on the
Saints. Josh Weil.
Who is Josh Weil? Bed.
He's a rookie tight end, right? He's a blocking tight end for
the Titans. I believe I threw him as a
question mark after Chris Moore on the Titans.
Like I told you, I was trying to find the most random name, Trey
Tucker. There is a Titans guy.
Oh, you got you got him. OK, Yeah, yeah, Kyle Phillips is
a lot of stuff now. Phillips is the first name on
this list. I didn't.
Even though once I heard Josh Weil and Chris Moore, I was
like, please tell me Kyle Phillips is on it.
Yeah, exactly. You know, there's some backdoor
stack. You could take a DJ Shark here
set up. You could take it a little Adam
feeling. This is where you get your Adam
feeling Exposure, guys. This is the format.
Robert Woods, There you go, Pat. This is this is the format in
the build and the structure to get Robert Woods and set up that
that CJ Stroud pick. I mean, yeah, if you fucking
pass on Anthony Richardson in the 11th round, sure, you're
right. I like it, he keeps saying.
Like 11th round, as if it's just this.
It's two rounds after a huge value.
I dropped him in the 9th all the time.
Yeah, I took him out. Pick 123 today.
The real ones are packing their Anthony Richardson bags.
All right, we're up. Yeah, I we run to the podium
with Kyler here. We're gonna have permission run
to the podium. Yeah.
This is why you pass on Anthony Richardson, because you know
Kyler's coming back. You know what we got?
Failed out. OK, we got failed.
Out, Kyler. He's back in.
We're back in. It's kind of, it's kind of like
a movie that has a lot of plot twists and you're like, this
might be too much you, said the director.
Movie nails. The landing I got off the couch.
And for what? And then it comes comes.
Back you get You get Kyler Murray.
Yeah, all right. Our team now, through 12 rounds,
we're just a little over 1/3 of the way.
Done. Austin Eckler, Jonathan Taylor,
Mark Andrews, Justin Herbert, Our wide receivers Mike
Williams, Michael Pittman, Quinton Johnson, Rashad Bateman
Sky Moore Cadarius Tony Rondell Moore and Kyler Murray.
We got double Chargers receivers, double Michael
receivers, double more receivers, double Chiefs
receivers. Are there any other cute
pairings that you guys would like to illustrate with our team
so far? Well, I'm doing some stuff on
that other sheet. I'm highlighting some Qb's that
are available that I think we can back stack.
I do want to do some more cute pairings, and I think getting a
third QB in the next couple of rounds makes a lot of I think a
third QB makes a lot of sense. Cuz we got the rounds to play
with, I think we should lock up, yes.
I think I have. Four options right now.
We can think about waiting till the next one, but that's
potentially risky. There's a what about Deonte
Foreman as a RB 3? I do think we could get legit
shut out at QP if we don't want to take the third Bryce Young,
Mac Jones, Desmond Ritter, Jimmy G Howell.
Mac Jones is very backdoor stackable and fits the Yeah,
pretty well. So Bryce Young is too if we want
to go Marshall Visca. Frank Rec rotates his tight
ends. We could grab a really late
Tommy Tremble, but Mac Jones's like third year guy more likely
to break out and as a passer, right?
Who do you want? Let's do Mac, Let's do Mac and
quarterback. All right, let's.
Do Mac. There we go.
Mac Attack. We really need, I think, to go
probably running back, running back after this, right?
Yeah, we gotta hit some RPS. It's a pretty good yeah, it's a
pretty good spot for running back, like looking at what
everyone's seeing in the overall ADP.
You got tight ends and defenses are starting to pop up right now
here in the overall. But has it?
No one's broke the seal, right? Let's broke the the defensive
seal. No, but that's that's coming.
I mean, that's gotta come. Do we care at all?
We just want three of each, right?
Yeah, but we've got, I mean we care about getting those six
picks in, right? But we don't care who we get.
No, I I think on kicker, I care more.
I want guys that are like actually the the guy you know
well, it's team kicker. Well, it's team kicker.
Oh, it's team kicker. That's right.
I love that. The one saving great.
I love that for us so much. Team kicker So nice.
I'm gonna grab some. Oh, wow.
I mean, if we do, if we do want to take the Ravens, it's been a
while since we got to roll a kicker clip.
It's been a long. It would be fun.
Let's see here I want. Pretty good about our
quarterback situation, actually. All right, I'm gonna.
I meant to. I meant to put a bounty out on
this. So in the NFC here, I'll I'll
show this right here and then we'll go back to this.
You can see how long the average pick time is.
We're doing pretty bad at 26 seconds.
Whoever finishes with the fastest pick time, I'll give you
a $50.00 gift card to the store to to buy whatever merch you
want either from the chip chasing or any of the stuff
here. So if you top this, so right now
the leader is Michael Zuka. Here 7 seconds.
Whoever has the fastest draft time.
Gretch, I'm doing the fastest draft time gift card bounty you
here. We're at 26.
You did it too late. No one can catch up to Zuki now,
so they have no incentive. No they do.
They do. We're having.
These six things. Is this a ship based here or
just a super fast NFC regular? Cuz we're gonna have to like
find Zuka. We're gonna have to talk to the
NFC and get Zuka a gift card. Well, if Zuka.
Well, Zuka doesn't claim his product.
Where's our last two picks? Why is it on?
Tony? Let me refresh.
There you go. A little glitch in the matrix.
Will you go back? To that other page really quick.
I want a heart attack. I was like, what happened in the
draft? What's going on?
So right after Zuka, you got Netto at 10, Ben Cunningham at
11. Everyone will.
Our guy Willis is at 13 seconds, Sanderson's at 12 seconds.
That's respectable. OK, that's respectable.
Yeah, Sanderson can get there, OK.
All he's doing is sitting around watching our stream and
drafting. He better be at 12 seconds.
Jesus. Well, it's pretty slow.
He's almost twice as like Andy's on the turn.
His second pick should be one second every.
Well, I mean team three, real power move.
Just skipping team two there. Wait, what?
Did you see that gap? I don't know.
What that? So.
Zuka's on the turn, so that's a major advantage because he can
just fire him in. But it's actually a bad look for
Jacob, who's almost twice as long getting his picks in as
Zuko on the other turn. Yeah, yeah, the so looking at
the board here, yeah, the wide, I actually like the wide
receivers more than the running backs, but structurally.
Structurally, we gotta go running back, man.
Jalen Warren went 1401. That would have been a fun pick.
After Kendra Miller? After these guys?
Yeah, yeah, after Devin Singletary 2 rounds earlier.
So running back by ADP in here or by their their rank I should
say Kenneth Gainwell, Raheem Moster, Zeke Taja Spears, Jeff
Wilson. I think Kenneth Gainwell or Taja
Spears are both very good picks. Yeah, do.
You have any thoughts? I like.
I like Spears a lot. What do you think?
Grutch. I'm fine with that.
We could just roll the Justin Tucker clip and taking running
back in the next round. Dude, we're gonna get locked out
of running back if we don't. If we don't.
Yeah, let's take through it here.
We'll take Spirit the the wide receivers, though.
You got, you got Alec Pierce, you got Michael Gallup, she got
Roshi Rice, you got Curtis Samuel.
I guess those are interesting games there for a bit.
We started the QB run after taking Max Bryce Young,
Garoppolo, Tan Hill, Ritter, Howl all going off.
People are trying to found found another running back for us.
OK, there was one I also didn't mention.
I thought I'd you know, play a little coy, keep some things
close to the vest. Ohh, I see you added it to the
queue. This is actually a good way to
communicate putting things in the queue.
Yeah, I I'm glad we figured that out.
I'm in round. In round 14, I'm gonna type in
your chat. I'm gonna type in our chat.
Yeah, I think you just put that in the lead chat, Ben.
That would be. That'd be like a good bit like
he thinks he's privately communicating, but it's a public
message. We have this buddy of ours in
our college league that did this for like 10 years straight.
He tried to go to the search bar for players and you would type
it in the. It was every time.
Our buddy Joey would always type the name in the actual chat and
we're like, oh, hey, Joey's gonna take this guy next, like
he's trying to search for his name.
That was a chat. That was like, did you guys see
some of those old ones when like the boomers would accidentally
update their Facebook status with like their search term like
odd, odd accident, which was like a really difficult.
No, no. No.
Yeah. So.
Fast. They would be like searching
some old like flame. They went to high school.
With and just. Type her name into the best talk
and. She's.
Calling her child, I'd be like, why is my name your post right
now? No, dude.
We're on the clock. What do you think about Cuba
here? I'm into I like any good.
Well Jerome Ford Pat put in the he just went Ford.
Jacob. Jacob.
Oh Ford went Cuba. It is yeah.
Jacob saw us typing about him. Damn.
No no. He just he just saw him He was
down the ATP list but he but he he scrolled down.
So are you guys nervous at all about Raheem Blackshear?
He was with the ones today. Are you worried about.
Are you worried about Raheem Flags here?
Yeah. I'm worried about.
I am a little. I am starting to get a little
worried that they're gonna have like a little nahem Hines three
man thing going on and I just really don't.
I really don't like that. I'm not worried.
Okay. I want to go on record to say
I'm not worried about. Here's the thing.
Who I did not know about until like week 14 last year didn't
know you. If you are worried about
Blackshear, you should be far, far, far more concerned about
what that means for Miles Sanders than what it means for
Chuba. Well, yeah.
But I know that I haven't dropped a Miles Sanders like
more than five times. I'm just saying I've dropped a
lot of Chuba. And it was partly with the
assumption that he was the clear #2.
And now I'm like, is this a three man backfield?
Can I just? Tell you that.
She bought 95 carries last year at a 4.9 yards per carry and
then receiving. He only had 17 targets, but he
had an over 10 yards per target, which is like he was running
back like 6, yeah. He was so.
Efficient Last year he was, and it was really efficient in
college. Like, this is a guy that that
Siegel really loved. Coming out was like, this guy
could be a superstar running back like he before he got hurt
at Oklahoma State, he was on pace to be like the top running
back in this class. I remember Siegel talking about
all that and then got hurt. Had a tough rookie year kind of
sort of still rehabbing that and was really he had a very he had
a very disappointing final year in college and didn't didn't off
the injury or like battling injuries and then and then had
the serious injury. I think the way Sean told me
that he had multiple injuries in season and then eventually had
like the big injury, but it was like injury plague season.
Is that not accurate? I don't, I don't know.
I can't remember now. He had a very disappointing
final season. It might have been injury
related, but then then he also tested fairly poorly.
This is just basically what I'm saying.
His rats score's OK. I'm pulling up his wrass.
He had a four, 540 and he was a he's kind of a breakaway runner.
So we were all like, we thought you were right, but he still
maybe wasn't like fully healthy was the hope.
He was really, really efficient last year.
He pops in a lot of my stuff. That's when I was like, dude.
You have to be an idiot not to just play Chuba Hubbard some,
and Frank Reich has taken me up on that so far.
All right, so we do have some defenses starting to come off
the board here. The Niners come off right after
our tuba pick, then the Eagles go.
Marvin Mims was kicking around, although man, devastating to
read that He has another hamstring injury today That made
me sad, but he would have been a nice pick.
They're. Ohh cool.
I just took him in like 7 slows yesterday.
He has a ham. Yeah, and it's like a different
one from the one he was dealing with early in the spring.
I'm I'm having some very strong KJ handler flashbacks.
I will say Alec Pierce still on the board at wide receiver,
running back. You can sack him with Richardson
sick. Yeah, I don't want any more
Colts. Actually, I agree.
I don't think we should take any more Colts.
We we made a very specific bet now.
The cults will be good, but not too good.
I I do not think we capitulate into this running back tier.
This is like we're down into another range here.
I would say like peers are even taking a tight end too with like
La Porta. Pierce One like a really good.
La Porta is a kind of a smash, right?
That's what I that's he's by far the guy that stands out to me as
far as like that shouldn't be falling this far.
All right. I'm in on that.
We got to get kicker and D situated at some point.
Yeah, I I think we're OK. I mean, we do have 18 more
rounds to address that physician.
It's going to be like six straight look, we lost off in
Maria. All Do you guys, Should we play
the clip for for Willis? Yeah, does Willis?
Get I think Willis gets the clip.
Willis around it. Let's do.
It. Oh.
Beautiful people don't even know that Pat went to refill his
drink during that Cliff and then just played it real smooth
coming back. Beautiful.
All right. So do you guys want it?
So we are starting to see a little run on these.
Jets go, Cowboys go, Patriots go.
We are on the clock here, The Bills.
So are. Here.
Especially yeah. OK let's I mean I I think we
should start getting into the the D's and kickers you you
didn't want to push that one running back tier.
I think it was smart to get attend too, but.
We are gonna need to take those and we might actually miss that
running back tier, but I'm not that worried.
You can make a case for someone that's this.
Like all these guys seem like the last round flyer types.
Not saying we're not gonna have to take something.
I don't see anyone standing out. The guy in the private chat at
the but let's take a D Let's take a D here, let's take a D.
OK all. Right.
Let's take a D, the middle guy. Who's in the private chat of My
top private chat list? I think is.
Just re update the list cuz some of these guys are gone and I
don't know which one you're talking about.
Yeah, Pat just mentioned him. I think that guy's sort of head
and shoulders, but I'm not. There's a couple I'm not
worried. I have 4 running backs right
now. I'm not that worried about it.
I'm more worried about getting boxed out of getting 3 defenses
and three kickers. And I think we're going to kind
of starve the beast here at defense.
You, I think, start to get pitch.
What do you guys think of the dude that I threw in at the the
private chat there? Yeah, yeah, I mean.
In that. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm sort of. You squint, I can see it.
I mean, things are things are looking pretty interesting for
that, for that guy. Hey, I actually am pretty out on
him. Like legit pretty out on him.
I take him a fair amount. All right.
Well, we're at a standstill then.
We are at the halfway point here, honestly, pretty
impressed, Pretty impressed that we are 17 rounds in in an hour.
You guys are a crushing. Good job.
I feel pretty good about it. Yeah.
So how many DS do we have off
now? Good.
Question looks like 9. Yeah 9DS and one kicker.
So these are if we're trying to get, so we're we're sort of on
pace to get 3. Well, if you think, if you think
about the dynamics right 32. It means three people, right?
If all 12 teams wanted to have three kickers and three defense,
it means three of those teams are going to get shut out.
I think we should grab 1D with the next two picks and play for
that third DA little later. If Gretch is running back is
here, I think we, dare I say run to the podium.
Do you agree? I like my running back more than
Gretchen's running back. Oh really?
No. I like Gretch's running back.
I I mean, are we worried about getting boxed out of the DS?
1234567891011? There's already 11.
Shouldn't we go here? Do you want to take a D?
Yeah, I kind of. Want to take a D and then see
it? Which one do you want?
Dolphins, Saints. Broncos.
Commanders. Seahawks.
Chargers. Bengals.
Yeah, I was making a bunch of work on Team D recently.
Shut up. Which one do you want, Gretch?
I don't. I don't.
Care take, take. A commanders have a good D
right? Sure.
They do. Now, did you draft like you're
right? And once you put them on your
team, they do have a good deep. I don't know shit.
Oh hey, Phil, B said. Watch DST or Saints.
He seems like he knows what he's talking about.
Man, I listened to an offensive line ranking podcast today but
did not listen to a defensive podcast today.
So I'm useless. So are you guys getting?
Do you think we need to get the third one here?
Starve the beast. I think we need this is what I
wanted to see. Three more came were it 16?
Yeah, 15DS are off it looks like, yeah, I think we, I think
we can push that. We just need that 32nd D to come
back. Like I think we can grab a
running back here. But then also you got to get the
kickers, but only one kickers off.
Yeah. Yeah, Willis really jumped the
gun on that. One, Anderson is pushing for
that $50 credit. Did you guys see how quick he
took those defenses he's firing him in, dude, he's he's ready to
make some. He's just like.
He's laying in his bed right now just envisioning that I love
wide receivers, bucket hat and just ripping in pics.
All right, what's guys You're. Let's let's take Ben's running
back. Let's can we take Ty Chandler.
Yeah, let's take it. Yeah, let's do it.
All right, that's a good. That's a good pick.
There we go, guys, please. The only thing good about Team
12 is how fast he's picking. Everything else about it is dog
shit. Oh no, Little defensive.
Run here after the Ty Chandler. We start with the bees the deal.
Really. How do I check the pick speeds?
If you go into the the draft home page like the main league
page, it shows it. So I want to see if Sanders.
I just, I just counted. We we are locked into getting a
D to come back. We'll get the 31st D We just
need the 30. Yeah.
We just, yeah, I like literally, I looked, I eyeballed it and I
was like, I feel like every single person would have to take
a D asked not to get one. And I think we're still good.
Yeah, so Sanderson is covering ground.
So Zuka is still at six seconds here, Netto at 8:00, but we do
have Jacob down to 11 seconds. He's making a solid charge.
Cunningham at 11 here, Willis down to 12 seconds.
So there's some contenders, I mean.
How and and how is the Zuka's just too fast?
He's getting faster, dude. He's getting.
He was at 7 before. Yeah.
He's trying to get this shit over with.
Zuka's running away with it, man.
He's got, he's got his two picks ready.
Watch this. This is going to be.
Let's. See it this is a master at work
here. Oh.
My goodness. Oh God, that was 5 seconds
total. Max, Max.
I don't know that second pick. It was a little bit of a lag.
It was a little bit of a three seconder instead of a I expect
more from Zuka. Oh, Charlie, I didn't realize
you're dead. Sorry.
Yeah, Netto, so you are what are you at?
You're at 8 seconds. So Netto, OK, Charlie can charge
here. That's the biggest competition
right now. Is it 8 seconds?
OK. Yeah, I would say you're in the
running for sure. Yeah.
Especially if Zuka keeps having turns like that.
Yeah, Paul, I I am planning to to read to read every single
pick. So it's gonna what are we?
It's gonna. Be like me.
You. You're on such a little sleep.
It's gonna be like me at the NFL draft.
When I was hammering, you made me read the whole first round
like that's. He's gonna be half asleep like.
There's there's seven more defenses left.
Should we just be done with defense?
Yeah, we should take a D. So you got the Texans, the Rams,
the Vikings, the Bears, the Falcons, the Cardinals, the
Raiders and the Rams just come off the board.
Yeah, just I would look at the buys.
We have weeks 13 and 14. Make sure you don't take 13 and
14. Good.
So Minnesota's out, Chicago's out.
So you got the Texans, the Falcons and the Carsons of the
Falcons, the Carsons team. Fun.
Yeah. Falcons have added some talent.
Honestly did. You see that Arthur Arthur Smith
mustache? Who did they bring in?
They got the the Bengals safety. Justin.
Space. Gotta be the Texans then.
Sure, sure. They got a new defensive head
coach. What's his face?
Timiko Ryan's. Hey, they also had JJ Watt, and
he established A defensive culture.
Yeah, one time. A long time ago.
Yeah, but it's still, it's still there.
Still. Culture is still there.
Let's see who's getting boxed out.
Who's getting boxed out at defense with only two.
Willis only has two, but I think he knew.
That there would be one for him here cuz wow, Sanderson can only
rock 2 d's. Wow.
Sanderson picked a lot faster than Zuka there, though.
That was quick picks. That was good.
That might have been one second combined for both picks.
That was impressive. Yeah, Brandon.
So our team so far here is Austin Eckler, Jonathan Taylor.
Mark Andrews, Justin Herbert, Mike Williams, Michael Pittman,
Quinton Johnston, Rashad Bateman, Sky Moore, Cadarius,
Tony, Very, Intentional Pick, Rondell Moore, Kyler Murray,
Mack Jones, Taje Spears, Champ, Florida Buffalo Bills,
Washington Commanders, Ty Chandler, Houston Texans and.
Thank God Gus Wet. He was literally.
He was literally the last plausible running back you could
take, except for kicker Cordell Patterson.
You want to take Cordell Patterson?
You want to take? What about Pierre Strong?
I I don't even think he's plausible.
They're signing someone. They, they, they talk.
If we're going to take a patriot, it should be Taekwon
Thornton to stack up with Mack Jones.
Let's just take a kicker. OK, which one do you want?
Let's take a kicker then. Bills.
For. Yay Hawks, Falcons, bills for
lambs. Bills seems fun.
It's a lot of fun we got, we got correlation with our kicker and
defense. That counts.
Really. Well, technically those are
adversely correlated over the course of 17 weeks.
We got plenty of running backs left.
I don't know what you guys are talking about, I.
Don't see that. You gotta see the stuff through
rose colored glasses, man. OK, we're in Jacoby preset
territory. That's Pat.
How how badly have you been excited?
Or how badly have you wanted a format where you could
justifiably select Jacoby preset?
You gotta be so excited. That format's already existed.
It's called Superflex and I've taken them plenty.
I forgot you're at all the superflex font.
I had a bunch of yeah. I haven't done a single
superflex, so I wasn't in that mindset.
You probably have like 80% Jacoby.
I literally in the first actually.
Right. Sorry.
I'm sorry. I just.
I got a question for you with Gus Edwards.
I want you to guess his career number of receptions.
I'll give you his career number of games, 52.
Seven rush attempts, 501, seven. He's got more than that.
He has 18 but still 18 career. This is a full boy PPR site I
know, but but he's like there's talk of dot like they're like,
hey, why isn't JK Dobbins here today?
And John Harper was like, I don't know.
You know, I don't think that's anything the last JK of that.
Yeah, Gus Edwards is a very good rusher.
He's a very efficient rusher. Well, he wasn't 2020, the last
time we saw him run for 100 carries, he missed all 2021.
He ran 87 times last year. He's 28 now.
He was 25 then. So like we it's been a while.
That's as we've seen. It was very efficient last year
too though. Yeah, but on 87 touches, like,
yeah, they were good touch, good to 87 touches, though.
None of them were receptions, unfortunately, but they're all
very efficient. We're good carries, 5 yards of
carry. So I don't, I don't think we
have to do kicker with this next spec.
There's still a bunch of team kickers we do crack rock.
Really. Stephanie saying crack rock just
broke some news. Oh my God, is that true?
If this is track, Rock has been actually breaking legitimate
news for like, months. High sources Trump January 6
will drop tomorrow, early next week.
Plus, the Georgia case is a doozy.
You'll become familiar with the word Rico.
Boomers will remember the song Rico Suave.
This comes from the highest sources, plus some top Peach
emoji players. So.
Much. God, dude, it's he's, he's, he's
breaking news about our ex president and also stoned and
making jokes about Rico Suave. Like, yeah.
And then all the shit he says happens.
It's the best. Yeah, it's the best timeline.
What do we What are we doing? We're about halfway through the
kicker I. Think we can do we can do Pier
Strong here or we can let's do another kicker.
We're about halfway through. I think we I don't want to push
kicker to 24. Necessarily Jags.
Dolphins. Steelers, Broncos.
Vikings, Jets Cult Saints, Rams. Jags feel Jaguar, Dolphins feel
good Dolphins As long as it's not a 13 BY.
No, it's not all right, Dolphin. There you go.
I like it too. To have those team kickers
playing against each other twice throughout the course of the
season is definitely kind of yeah, it might get those kicker
battles going. Yeah, yeah, you gotta you gotta
get your team kicker for. Sure, let's see here, Ross says.
I engaged with this first Trump tweet.
Now, like, Twitter is filled with every political act,
prevention figure out to charge up from juries.
That's what you get. For flying into the lions dead,
that is. Crack, cracks Twitter.
The algos like we got him. Maybe.
We got him. Oh my God, I cannot wait for the
crack rock draft this year. Yes, that is.
He actually confirmed with me today.
That's gonna be August 24th. There you go.
He's gonna slowly start trickling out the schedule
August 25th. Wow.
Sanders is milking the clock on the 2nd pick pick.
The Vikings at least at least 8 seconds on that second pick.
Guess you're gonna have to pay full price for that bucket hat
buddy. Embarrassing.
Actually, I should probably send Sanderson one.
I think he could be a good influencer for us in 1919.
Kickers, 19 kickers off the board here.
We gotta get the We gotta get the young, the young audience,
the Gen. Z.
Pat, are you starting the one called Zoomers?
You what? You want to lock up our third
kicker here? I think so.
I think I do. I think that.
Steelers Jets 19 have gone. I don't think we can make it all
the way back there's. If I mean it's Pierce, you could
take Hunter Henry here. You could there's yeah.
Hunter Henry is a good pick. Hunter Henry is a pretty good
pick. Yeah, let's do.
Hunter, do you want to do it? Guys, I want to live.
I just want to. I want to live deeper so you
know what it's like to push teams kicker 3 to the 24th
round. So we're done at tight end,
right? We're done at quarterback and
tight end with Mark Andrews, Laporta and Henry.
Unless you guys want to do that. Gardner Minsky.
Ooh, that's a 19th. We have 14 picks here.
I think we need about three or four non kicker picks.
If I'm doing the math, that's two in a row.
It's the bad run out this is and this guy has none.
Team four has none. He's definitely going.
Kicker, kicker Fritz Fritz. I would say his team's on the
Fritz based on his lack of kickers right here, Nate says.
Have you ever hung out with crack rock in person?
Need a live blog of that? I have not.
He keeps telling us he's going to go out to Vegas and then he
never makes it happen. Three in A.
Row four in a row. All right, These two teams have
two kickers. They.
Don't Are you guys getting nervous?
Yeah dude, we're definitely gonna miss out by like 2.
No, don't worry, guys. Trust the This team doesn't need
a kicker, so they'll take something else.
These guys on the end are definitely taking one because
they're like, I'm not gonna No, they both, they don't have.
They don't need to, though, man. Ah.
They are. Trust the process, Hunter
Henry's the guy. You need sucker.
Oh my God, seven straight kickers.
Andy takes care strong. Andy's gonna get me sending him
a gift card. Man, this suck guy knows what
he's doing. Huh.
OK, these two don't 12345678910111230401516171819221.
22 to 34. 25 Don't Torture 60 728290 I think we're good.
I think we're good because these guys all have three now.
These are non kicker picks. I think we're good.
You know who's those non kicker
picks there? We're good.
These are all going to be kicker picks coming back, I think.
Ooh. Willis is saying he's stopping
at 3:00 because he did anchor team kicker with the Ravens out
of the 16th round and just makes sense.
He was checking his Leone draft capital buckets for kicker and
was like, dude, I'm, I'm already in bucket one, right?
Now 19 kicker. Yeah he is.
We should would be in bucket one.
Should we take Arizona? Cuz we took Kyler and we already
kind of bet on the Cardinal season.
They're not being complete dog shit.
Dude, but like. If Kyler's rushing in all those
touchdowns, they're just one pointers and like, I mean
relative to the other, like dog Shit Kicker options we have.
Well, he's got it's no attackers and Titans Titans.
That's all it's left. Dude, when Tasha Spears gets
stuffed at the goal, you don't have the same time 13 and 10, so
it's tight. It's gotta be Titans.
Titans it is. We got one option.
Only one kicker left. That's how you starve the beast.
That's how you sneak in a Hunter Henry pick.
Yes. What godforsaken format is this?
The chat does not know what we're doing.
We're we're pumped about team kicker picks around 24, and
we're just getting started. Maybe 10 more, right 20. 20. 20
three You think the draft is over because we just took six
non fucking players? The.
It's not. This is where it gets.
All right, let's check in. So netto's down to 76.
I enjoyed that a lot guys. I.
Just want to let you know the fastest drafter stuff is heating
up. So Zuck has been stuck at six
seconds. He's kind of flatlined.
We got Netto down to seven and Sanderson has been making
ground. He's down to 9 seconds here.
This is a legit race. Ooh, he just he just hammered
2K. CS Richie James, a nice Michael
Wilson in the 25th. He's at least the 27th rounder.
We needed him to stack with Kyler.
He's on my he's on my ship today on Draftking.
So please please. And Greg Dorch.
These guys Will Willis. What does Greg Dorch do for your
team compared to ours? Dorch is already gone.
Oh my God. What about Devonte Parker?
Yeah, Parker makes a ton of sense.
Are you worried about. Yeah, that works.
Yeah. All right.
Did all the free agent running Mexico Cream Hunt with.
That was a long time ago. Yeah, yeah.
Look at this. So we we built out our man.
It does it does hurt a little bit that no Dortch or Wilson.
These guys are you guys just trolling us taking Dortch.
That was supposed to be our pick, our stack.
I'm going to Gretch's deep sleeper thing.
I'm checking out the Arizona Cardinal these.
Those two, so. I see a name.
I mean, do you? Yeah.
What about? What about this?
What about? Are you guys worried about?
I'm gonna throw it in the chat. What about that name?
I. Saw you was running with the
ones today, getting a lot of work.
That's what we need. We actually need that pretty
bad. Yeah, yeah.
Wow. I like that Willis even admit
that he misclicked on Dorch. This is this is brutal, dude.
Absolutely brutal. Misclicking is just it's not
acceptable. What about?
Are there any more of our deep
chargers? If there was ever a format in a
team to take Isaiah Spiller on his Spiller still kicking
around, yeah, let's do it. Actually, do we want to get?
I forgot that we had that. Claire I think that's more of a
40 round format. Yeah, I prefer.
I prefer Spiller in 40 round formats I don't think.
I think the charges are going to float a float a guy here.
Float him. OK.
I'll shoot it right. No, I like that.
Do you like him over Izzy? Yes, I do too.
I do too. Do you know what, Izzy?
I just feel like it's a real high probability of being a zero
this year. Yeah, it's it's like, how many
things do I need to break, right?
And then this one, I feel like I need two things to break right.
It's actually pretty clean. Izzy is like, you got Breece is
better than him. He's 4th on the depth chart.
They might sign Dalvin Cook. Right?
I I. Put a I'm putting a few guys in
the queue here, too. Will you put him in the chat,
too? So I can, yeah, shoot him down,
yeah. I dare you to shoot guys.
I like the guys in the queue a lot.
Yeah, ohh no ohh I I want Pete's guy like kind of bad.
Which guy should we do in? Should we do the the first guy
over Pat's first guy. Yeah.
Come on. Just I think that I think that
your first guy's more likely to get taken.
So I'm I'm. Yeah.
OK, all right. This is how you do it, folks.
Master class and drafting all of the.
Chiefs clip insert clip here where we're insert clip here.
Who's making the Justin Ross clip for us?
Someone's making some Justin Ross use Justin Ross clip
National championship when he was like 18 making one handed
catches highlight reel. Yeah, hey chat.
Chat needs. Chat needs to keep up.
Trey McBride went like 5 rounds ago.
Willis Ooh wanted Ross. Nick got it.
There it is. Justin Ross is in.
Let's do it. All right, our team here through
26 rounds and we're really starting to cook now.
Eckler, Jonathan Taylor, Mark Andrews, Justin Herbert.
Mike Williams. Michael Pittman.
Quinton Johnson. Rashad Bateman.
Sky Morcadaris. Tony Rondell.
Moore. Kyler Murray.
Mac Jones. Todgery Spears.
Chuba Hubbard. Sam LaPorte.
Buffalo Bills defense. Washington Commanders.
Defense. Ty Chandler, Houston Texans
defense Get off the board. So I can see this.
Buffalo Bills kicker. Miami Dolphins kicker.
Hunter Henry, Tennessee Titans Kicker.
Or Devonte Parker? Justin Ross.
This team fucks. This team does.
Fuck. It is known that this team
fucks. So we're at 9 receivers already.
We need to get some money back, guys.
Did you? The chat doubted us.
And have we now pissed harder than any other team?
Dude, not even too hard. You might have been pissed too
hard. We may have pissed too hard.
We maybe needed to puke a little bit of those fluids out.
Trust it. Jonathan Taylor, Austin Eckler,
Double Anchor. Nick Nick we I missed it.
But Nick, we're on snap tracking Sanderson's picks beat, he says.
It's insane right now. Yeah, Sanderson wants this free
bucket at Nap Picks. Sean Tucker.
I love it. But we had another running back,
didn't we? Well, I'm trying to get our pick
time down so I don't have to send out a gift card.
Like if we just win. No, no, I would.
I would prefer to like have a discussion about who we're.
Talking Pat, Pat, This is how this works.
If you float a guy that you want us to take and then you can see
that we're going to take another guy and then the guy you wanted
in the previous round comes back, it's a snap pick.
That's the rule. That is the rule.
It's always been the rule. It's kind of always.
Been a rule. It's kind of like you have
bodelos right now. I'm so jealous.
I know, I told myself, ah, man, I want John Tucker cleared for
camp. Everyone cleared for camp.
I mean, I can make a Modelo. I can make a Modelo Tower
tonight. Your floor model is deep right
now. Yeah.
It's a 34 round draft beat, man. That was a it's the way that
you're open. I'm, I'm drinking wine.
I'm so sad right now. I I want Chris.
You you didn't get to hear that? Yeah man.
Damn it. This wine is really good though.
You got a a soon to be 1 year old at home.
I mine are 12:00 and 7:00. Mine grew up.
I get a drink with delos they could take.
Care of themselves. My beautiful child has been
getting up at 5:15 AM long way away right now.
I mean, I don't know if. We we have.
Quite put helmet on Energy to this drought.
I don't think you guys understand how many beers I
drank to put the helmet on. It's a lot more than four.
I like Stephanie. I don't know if this is a
genuine comment or a callback to I Love Lamp, but Stephanie says
I love wine. It's it's a great comment either
way. Yeah, it's perfect either way.
Yeah. All right.
So we have the one guy in the queue that we discussed, or we
can keep taking running back Flyers if you guys can squint
and find someone. God is calling me out as if I've
abandoned beer. Wine is what I had out.
This is what I had in the house. OK, cracked the bottle of wine
Pat. Goes to Paris one time and now
drinks. Yeah.
What is this like? Is this nice?
Like 40 times? Like, oh, why, what are you,
European? Pete is the guy.
I put the guy in the chat. Or is it the last one that you
wrote? Oh, no, we can, we can.
Let me see if that guy's still kicking around.
I think he's gone, then, unless he's classified at a different
position, let's get to give it away.
Spoiler alert. Speaking of spoiler alerts, did
you know? No, I actually think that that
hurts. Oh yeah, we can't draft.
You can't draft me. Yeah, well, well, Primal B is on
it again. Phil B's with me tonight.
I appreciate you Phil. That sucks.
Do you guys like the Durham pick?
Yeah, unless we can find a running back with a pulse, I
think that's a good. I mean we're going to we're
going to have six more rounds to do that buddy.
Yeah. No do do Durham.
We got it's a pick. We have a pick.
So you make the.
Pick and taste of is a QV as well, so yeah.
All. Right.
I mean, for the people who want to know the names we're looking
at, these are the names for running backs at the top of the
the ADP here, Eric Gray, James Robinson, D Ernest Johnson,
Isaiah Spiller, Kenny McIntosh, Zach Moss, Nihe Mines.
Tyron Williams Not going to play this year.
Donovan Knight Probably not bad. Ronald Jones Hassan Haskins to
Michael Hastie. Boston Scott.
Deon Jackson. Evan Holt.
Tyrion Davis Price. Chris Rodriguez.
Those four names. Blake Forum.
Never heard of him. Trey Sermon, Boston Scott and
Chris Rodriguez are both names that can go in the queue.
I almost think we should be going a wide receiver at this
point. Did we get enough running back
to where we can be done or not? We need one more, probably.
We're 3 quarterbacks. We've 6.
Running backs 9. Wide receivers 4.
Tight ends 3/3 I think we need to make a make a wide receivers
of the pulse. Wow.
Jacob was ready for Keyshawn Vaughn and Kyle Trust.
I've never seen Kyle Trust pick so fast.
Do you know what's sick about this?
This is like this is a Dino. The Dino Virgin's wet dream of a
draft. This guy just slammed in
Keyshawn Vaughn and Kyle Trask. He's just loving life.
Let's let's check in on the speedsters here, see if anyone's
narrowed the thing. Wow.
Sanderson down to 8 seconds. Zoo Zoop, though, is competing.
He's down to 5 seconds. Wow.
Zuck. Zuck wants this, man.
You guys are battling Pat. You know who we can take.
Who we can roll a clip, buddy Running back.
JJ10 The clip. No, the clip.
I mean, I think we killed. Both the clips.
Honestly. Honestly.
Yes. What do we You get 99 yards to
the fucking. I mean that's just that's like.
There is a place. There is a place for him.
It's only 98. I think it's time.
I think it's it's we're around 29.
I mean you might be their goal line back.
Come on, let's pick this up, Mats goes killing us right now.
Mats goes. Not going to.
Go Ronald Jones will get your touchdown.
Remember, Remember would we used to roll that clip 19 rounds
earlier? Literally.
That's not an exaggeration. Yeah, that's a good clip.
Yeah, that's. A great clip.
Ecstasy. Yes, it is ecstasy, Chris.
I agree. All right, 29 rounds deep.
I feel like I could go 50, man. Like I'm just seeing this the
board so clearly. Yeah I fucking love you Liam.
Liam goes. I like I like this 29 round shit
should have a format where your picks 20 to 28 are worth 2 times
points. I mean like that's Liam's has
always got this kind of shit but that's that's amazing.
Like I love that I want my fucking round 28 pick to be
worth 2 times as many points. If Ronald Jones is good his
point should be worth more. I just.
Like it has to be. I believe it.
So Raheem Blackshear did go
right after Generic Prince, Batavius Mary and Trevian
Williams. We also do have the David Bell
clip still still in the hopper here, potentially.
I'm just glad Kyron Williams went because Pat was starting to
think about him. And God, another just.
I know. Listen, I I'm glad he went too.
I'm embarrassed about him. I am.
I I'm not kidding. I thought you're going to defend
it. You're like, I mean honestly I'm
fucking glad he went to I'm. I'm just going to click some
wide receiver names that I've heard of in the queue.
Well so my my sheet has several I think that are still like ooh
there's one that I actually feel I don't know maybe I've lost my
mind. I mean, I think we all start to
lose our faculties around around 27 or 28.
Fill fill in the. Chat talking about the guy I put
in the queue. The audio listeners won't ever
be able to see this influence. No, that's that's the move.
I love that move. He was not a good.
He was not a good prospect. Oh God.
Team loves him. You got to give me this one.
I just put in the. Chat.
Oh God, God, you guys are just dueling.
For who? Oh no, Chris Johnson, Chris
Rodney, goes. God.
It's. Like to the 30th?
I floated Robbie Chosen Anderson, who gets drafted in
much shallower formats. Do you like Robbie Anderson over
Braxton Burrios? I feel like I'm Burrios over
Anderson. I would be OK with Barris.
And then Sterling Shepherd is kind of wait.
Boston Scott is a viable like he can play.
The, the That's actually a good. One, you have injured running
backs to the top, they'll use the other running backs in in
Philadelphia if if Penny or Swift, who are both like hugely
injured from Miss Time, Scott's in the mix.
Right. But we're we got to be done at
running back after this, right? Yeah, we do have to be done
right back. That's it.
Yeah. These are these are a lot of
picks that we've taken that are probably zeros.
I've had every single one of these picks is probably a 0.
No, these wide receivers could actually.
Yeah, the wide receivers are gonna run rafts.
Boston Scott has just as much of a chance falling into the end
zone as any of these wide receivers.
He did it a bunch last year and now has even more injury prone
and weaker casts in front of him.
Yeah, but like, it's. I don't know.
When you stack them, it just starts.
Why am I arguing for Boston Scott?
If it's Gretchen now, I'm defending it.
I like it. I don't know why, Eric.
Take the floor. Take the floor.
I branches out. Go.
Full screen. You're killing it.
I actually don't really want it that much and I'm like trying to
make a convincing case. I thought stilling Shepherd was
the interesting upside guy if he's just like, back.
But I mean, obviously none of these guys will have pics.
Shepherd's not gonna make the team, I don't think.
I mean, he signed this off. He's gonna got no guaranteed
money. There's a new contract.
What about? What about this one that I just
dragged to the top of the queue, both for the bit?
No, because he because he he's a direct bet against the guy we
took earlier. Kendra porn.
Like, no Justin Watson. He's a direct bet against Justin
Ross. Oh yeah, let's say let's take
one of the let's take one of the Dolphins guys, can we take no
Kendra porn to stack up with Mike Jones?
No. OK.
We can take Kendrick. Born's good.
I I would, yeah. You into that, but you're doing
the same argument Kendrick Born's direct competition with
Devante Parker. No he's not.
No. They can play together.
They play together. He's he's a he's a juju sucks
ass play. Watson and Ross are sort of like
the only one of them can thrive. He goes wrong.
I'm 31. It was a 2 verse one.
Uh. Kendra Bourne is long gone.
This is this is ridiculous. Oh, Bourne's gone the court.
Yeah, get out of here. You still went rogue.
You didn't ask if you wanted no, you put picking players that
aren't even available as going rogue.
I would. I would want Barrios over Robbie
Anderson personally. So if Bourne was gone, I'm happy
with Barrios. I was taking Barrios like when
he first signed and then I was like, oh wait, what am I doing?
This might be really good. I like the Smike Barrio stuff
like the the Dolphins are a team like they're very concentrated
on Hill and Waddell. Last year it could be a little
bit less concentrated. This year, probably not.
But more importantly, get sick. He was a third guy who caught a
lot of touchdowns and did have a little bit of 1/3 role and he's
gone now someone, I mean, I can't get more concentrated on
Hill and and what I don't think like someone's gonna have to
step into that work whether that's Smithe whether that's.
Anderson Barrio, Cedric Wilson. There's got to be somebody
that's probably going to get some stats.
Like when I was doing my projections, I was like, I can't
even get to his efficiency high enough because all these other
guys suck. But the offense was really
efficient and Kasiki was really efficient in that third role.
I don't know who it is, but somebody is probably going to be
a sort of efficient lower volume, but sort of efficient
third piece in this passing game.
So I like that we took two shots at that, cuz I think that's a
good one. I mean it's a very efficient
passing year. I like it, too.
There goes Ty Montgomery, finally.
Wide receiver Ty Montgomery, If he was a running back, we would
have taken him at least five rounds ago.
We took Sean Tucker 5 rounds ago, guys.
That's how fucking deep we are with this chef I.
Think UDF. We're we're flying.
We are flying. Here we're crushing.
I will say if you want in on this fund next week, it looks I
did just check. A few more people have already
registered, so there's only five more spots.
We're going to run this back next week.
I'll even run back the gift card promotion for the fastest
drafter 34 rounds. You verse the ship chasers can
get $15 off this. And that's the last time we're
doing it. We're doing two of these.
That's it. Yes.
The well, we're going to be doing like the prime times.
We're going to do a yeah, yeah, this format.
For 34 rounds you get you get it twice you get it try, you get
$15 off. Also, if you buy a couple of
these you can also get a multipack discount too, so you
could stack a few discounts. But ship 15 get you $15 off.
You can battle against us next week if you think you can do
better. I mean, I think we drafted the
Mona Lisa of this format, but you can try next week if you'd
like. We have 30 seconds now.
Which one is it? I see Jarvis Landry, Denzel
Mims. David.
Bill, I would look Marquis good one who's apparently locked up
the deep threat role in Cleveland as the Y 04 sold.
What just happened? And you just said Jarvis Landry
and then Marquis good one on the barn team.
Jarvis Landry was putting the 15.
I did not put him there. What year's this?
We're to the end of the draft. I told you I gotta get access to
this queue. What the Hell's happening with
this queue? Marques could win.
Damn. It to Marcus Robinson just went,
you Dicks, I said. That three.
Rounds ago he was in my queue 3 rounds ago.
Your mental queue. No, I wrote him in the queue.
Got an invite in your e-mail, Ben?
All you had to do is log in and put the code in and link the
team like I did. But it's not legal expressly.
So, you know, like, maybe that'd be a problem for the prizes when
we win. Trying to like the fact that
you're trying to argue about Justin Watson directly competing
while having guys like Jarvis Landry in the queue is just an
offense to my. DeMarcus Robinson is gonna go
for at least 450 yards this year.
Alright, we got two clips, 2 clip candidates in the queue
right now. Ooh, Visca.
No, he's just so long gone. OK, Who's in the queue?
Who? What?
Who has Jarvis Landry? Denzel Mims?
David Bell? I still think Justin Watson's.
The best No, these are not no guys.
What are you fucking doing? And Ben, give us a better name.
Josh Palmer's Long gone, yeah. Come.
On I would put I take Zach Pascal.
Like Arizona's receiving course wide openings.
A vet I'm gonna give I'm gonna give grad to Zach Pascal because
he made a spreadsheet that included the name Zach Pascal on
it. He's on Arizona.
He's a vet. It's wide open.
We have Kyler. We have Kyler, he's 6 injuries
away in one, Kyler non injury away from being a league winner.
I mean, all he is is like Ron Delmore not being that good
away. And unfortunately too, yeah.
Likely one more pick here though.
I mean, this is our structure. The people were wondering how
this structure was going to shake out.
We're at a 3812433 build. Marquis Goodwin did have
alarming blood clots in his league slash leg, as Ryan points
out here. That is not wrong.
That is accurate and it is an unfortunate part of the Marquis
Goodwin experience. But before that, he locked up
the wide receiver four job in Cleveland and is a deep threat.
Yeah, and Jarek McKinnon once had dead legs and then he was a
league winner. So.
Marquis Goodwin is also, like, really old.
He's not. Was literally an Olympic.
He's. 32 He turns 33 in November.
And fucking like it's July 26th. No one's locked up shit.
Well, I think he has because David Bell and Cedric Tillman
and what? What was the queue?
Who was a hybrid guy? Or literally just that David
Bell goes Zucks Zucks in here. Snap picking David Bell.
David Bell's getting cut. He was bad last year.
Hey, don't the chat. The chat is asking for a guy
who's in the queue, and I think, I think we should give it to
them. Oh, you took him out of the
queue? I didn't.
I didn't touch it. Denzel MEMS.
Denzel Mems. No, Denzel Mems is gone.
I actually, Phil says. Minch.
You minch, you were gone. Wait, wait, Did Russell Gage not
go yet? Russell.
Gage It's long gone. A lot you guys are mentioning
names that are like 4 to 5 rounds we're talking about.
I'm mentioning names Mims I had in the two and he's gone
Dontavian, Wix, Kenny, Goladay, Jamison Crowder, Rakim, Jarrett.
Crete routine. He was that rugby?
Yeah, fuck you. Singling out Rakeem Jarrett, if
that was you guys. Remember Tegan Quitteriano from
that One Showdown slate. That's a.
Stand available, Quintarino, Trey, Surman, honestly.
Ohh Trey Palmer ohh. Trey.
Palmer's already gone. Shit.
Trey Palmer, just. Went.
I was. I just found Trey Palmer on my
deep guy. Yeah, thought about him earlier.
Wait, we only have. Three Titans, 4 Titans, 4
tenants, four tight ends. Beautiful.
It's a four tight end structure. Kind of build, yeah.
Yeah. Fuller.
Will Fuller? Will Fuller might honestly be
the best risk reward pick. What?
I think Jarvis never playing again.
If you were Titans, Will Fuller, Jarvis Landry's.
Is he gonna sign? What I Gretch.
Then it's you can't you can't knock down.
Pat and I are tossing out ideas. Who do you give us?
All right. Has Deonte Hardy gone?
Yeah, he went a long time ago. 24.
Yeah. Shit, I should have been painted
Xavier Hutchinson, KJ Hammer, Jarvis Landry Parker, Washington
Marques, Callaway, Dontavian Wix, Julio Jones, DeAndre
Carter, Chris Moore, Charlie Jones, Samori Torre, Kenny
Gallaude, Cedric. Wilson, Samori.
Torre. Pinion.
Drake, Pinion. Drake could sign somewhere.
Pat, you said. No more running backs?
Yeah, I know. But there's I'm just, let's take
a tight end. There's tight ends like Tommy
Tremble. Frank Wrake rotates his tight
ends. He's always done that with the
Colts. Why wouldn't Tommy Tremble play
a little bit with the Panthers? Come on down Tommy Tremble.
I just worry about the advance rates for five tight end teams.
Compared to four but. Fucking.
I don't know. I mean, you'd like about what it
would do to us if we took Tommy Tremble.
Did you even stop to consider for one fucking second how we
would feel if we took Tommy Tremble to close this draft?
I didn't. I didn't.
Unfortunately, the the draft is done.
That's that's dead. I just killed him.
Tommy Tremble. Someone just took Patrick Laird.
Let's go, Willis. Dude, think about how fun it
would have been to take Patrick Laird to close out our draft.
Trust me, but you're out here floating Kenyon Drake and Jarvis
Landry instead of guys were. Listen, you're supposed you're
the fucking guy who podcast with him.
You didn't even float his name. Every other guy I've been trying
to float you guys shot down. You don't float.
I just fucking auto pick. If you floated Patrick Laird, we
would have probably done it. It's crazy that we don't have if
you floated. Patrick Laird, we would have.
We would have run to the podium. Run to the podium with him.
Good. Well, now I know.
Now I know. Next.
I did not. Realize how deep this was gonna
get after 34 rounds. Like I knew it was gonna get
deep, but I did not realize it was gonna get that deep.
I'm gonna have to do some more research before next week.
All right, let's see, let's see who won the updated fastest
picker in the West here. So.
Hey, do you guys know what Tommy Tremble did Week 17 of last
year? That's his second to last game
that he's played football. 3 catches for 33 yards and a TD.
That's a 12.3 game. All right, I take it back.
I'm in. Time's tremble did that one
time. He got double the two points
once. So you're right about Frank
Brike. He always irritates his tight
ends. I never take Hayden Hurst as a
result. I never take it.
So let's get some Tommy Tremble. We had three people break 10
seconds. Zuck stayed in the pole position
the entire time, wins it with a 5 second.
Just an incredible snap pick mantra there, but we do got to
give a shout out to both line of scrimmage, Charles Netto and
Jacob Sanderson, who got to six and seven seconds respectively.
Damn. Just a really nice.
Got down from like 12:00 to 7:00, that is.
Yeah, that's really impressive. We got to send Jacob, like, you
know, 15 bucks to the store so we can get like a his bucket
hat, you know, let's get him that bucket hat.
Yeah, Jacob, you've earned, you've earned a bucket hat man.
And I will offer this bounty next week as well.
Like I said, we're running this back next week.
Same draft, same time, and there is five spots left.
Use that link that we have in the pinned in the chat or in the
description. Sign up.
Use promo code SHIP 15. You get $15 off and you can run
circles around us as we argue about players who already gone.
Liam, Liam's trying to join us next week.
You you say, you wrote. He's real impassioned about his
rounds, 20 to 34 player texts. Liam, I'm doing 2 streams with
you tomorrow. I think that's enough for for
one. Week It's been so excited to get
in office. Liam, I'm pretty sure we would
get stuck around, I believe round six for you when we would
argue about Dalton Kincaid for 45, Right?
Right. I think Justin Shorter would
come up. Oh wow, you'd be taking a lot of
bills. Reggie Gilliam would definitely
find his way onto our team somehow.
When you when you click your team it shows you how.
Long it took you to pick them, which is pretty funny to see.
Let's see our our Our longest click was Justin Herbert.
That was a big debate. Yeah, that was a big win.
That was a good one. It was a big snap.
Pick Pete here. Ron Delmore.
Yes, John Tucker, Ronald Jones, Kylerbury.
Yes, those are beautiful. Pick Tony.
More seconds. That's right, one.
Of these seconds? That's so weird.
Why did that happen? Let me recap for the audio
listeners. This will take about an hour.
We started with Austin Eckler that we took.
Jonathan Taylor. Then we had a discussion about
Marks and I'll speed this up. Justin Herbert.
Mike Williams. Michael Pittman.
Quinton Johnson Rashad Bateman Sky More Canaries.
Tony Rondamore. Kyler.
Marie Mac Jones Todging Spears. Chuba Hubbard.
Sam Laporta. Buffalo Bills defense.
Commanders defense. Ty Chandler.
Houston Texans pull team defense.
Buffalo Bills kicker Miami Dolphins kicker Hunter Henry.
Tennessee Titans kicker Devonte Parker Justin Ross Sean Tucker
Durham Smith. Ronald Jones Roll the Clip.
Boston Scott, Braxton Burials, Markey's Goodwin, Zach Pascale,
Tommy Trimble and Scene. Man, why did you guys let me
take Zach Pascal and Tommy Tremble to close it?
Because you made that spreadsheet.
You made that spreadsheet. It's a good ass spreadsheet
though. This is a wonderful time.
I'm honestly stunned that we got this draft done in two hours.
Sub two hours. Incredible work by everyone
tonight. This is a very fun time.
Like I said, we're going to be trickling out our full high
stakes schedule. We mentioned that Crack Rock One
is on the books. We will.
We'll keep you guys posted on that.
Our flights are all booked for Vegas as well.
We'll be out there on that Thursday and Friday.
Ship chasing party on Friday night at the park MGM.
We're going to have our own ballroom space over there.
You can join us for that. Pat is buying the pizza, so make
sure you get in all of your toppings.
Request to Pat, you said you wanted everyone to kind of just
DM you those specifically. Yeah, just like individually DM.
Me, just like at any time of the day.
There you go exactly. Beg, gretch.
Any final words here? Models are good and all drafts
should be 34 rounds. They should be yes.
Petition to make all drafts 34 rounds.
Thank you guys for hanging out tonight.
We will see you next week here and we will do it again.