1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:08,080 Week 1 of the 2025 NFL season. Boy is it good to be back here 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:13,440 on stat chasing with my Co host Draco and the Harold Fan and 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:22,200 drafters are levitating. This is stat chasing Pat Fryer 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,440 Helmo. This is what? 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,360 This is what I'm hot. Anita Handjob. 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,080 Fix your side Jamar. Alpha play, Chase. 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Are you kidding, Tony? You can't handle the heat. 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,400 It looks like we're finally at this point here, right? 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,280 How you doing, Draco? How? 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,200 How did Week 1 treat you? Doing good, doing good. 11 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,600 You know what, I'm, I'm just glad football's back. 12 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,640 We don't need to talk about Week 1 advance rates. 13 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,640 I feel like I've done that before and it's like, it's so 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,239 silly. Like it was fun, though. 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,000 It's always, it's always fun when when you've been waiting 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,520 all offseason. We start drafting in January, 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,000 February, we're thinking about NFL. 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,920 We're we're talking about it. And, and then all the, all the 19 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,040 offseason news trickles in. And then we then we get football 20 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,800 and and you get some surprises. You get things that work out how 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,320 you hoped and this is this obviously a very fun time of 22 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:30,680 year. How about you? 23 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,800 I I don't know what it was about this year. 24 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,560 It might have been how much extra work went into the The 25 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,800 Sims of the Sidekick this year where we had, we had so much 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,800 stuff where we wanted to see how it played out, just to know, did 27 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,600 we get all these inputs right? How I feel like there was so 28 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,680 much more I was excited for this year that even when stuff didn't 29 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,760 break my way this week, I was, I was just in a good mood the 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,840 whole time. I was like, I was wrong about 31 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,000 that, but that's cool. It, it was just a really fun 32 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,080 week one, man. There was a lot of stuff that we 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,640 got wrong, a lot of stuff that we got right. 34 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:10,520 Overall, I think we got a lot more right than wrong. 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,920 So it was, it was very fun. But we should we should dive 36 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:16,920 into these charts and start talking about it. 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Yeah, yeah, I do. I just I I saw this comment 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,320 here. Why did Jill and Polk scare me 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,400 into IK being a fan and toot? And I don't know that that's a 40 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:31,440 philosophical question. Yeah, I mean, it's very easy to 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,160 realize how how mortal all your favorite analysts are and how 42 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,360 non omnipotent they are when we miss on stuff like Jalen Polk 43 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,560 and you know, we we have those flops and everybody gets some 44 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,480 stuff wrong. And sometimes you're not even 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,320 necessarily wrong. You just get that the outcome 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,440 doesn't break your way. You know, it's a a probabilistic 47 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,680 game, but it it's really easy to get gun shy on stuff when you've 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,600 seen someone be wrong about something. 49 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,960 And that's so vivid and visceral to you. 50 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,640 But enough about the philosophy stuff, let's play. 51 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,720 Yeah, that's a that's a, that's a good response. 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Actually, before we go in at before you, you, you go into the 53 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,040 comments on this YouTube video or you at me on Twitter to tell 54 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,360 me that I use filler words and I stir too much. 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,800 Please don't bother. Like this is a nerd show about 56 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:26,240 stacks and if audio file stuff is your thing, this is not the 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,920 show for you. So I I promised myself that I 58 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:31,800 would say that at the start of this year. 59 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,200 So yeah, if you if you have beef with with Draco, you have beef 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,520 with me. So if you're going to comment 61 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,280 about any of that shit, just get the fuck out of here. 62 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,240 This isn't your show. We're not for you. 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:49,440 So deuces. So going into this chart, we 64 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,720 obviously we had a change in in our data provider PFF, they no 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,680 longer do expected fantasy points at all. 66 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,720 So maybe that was a garbage metric if they don't even like 67 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,960 it anymore. But we still we still want to do 68 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,240 kind of like a volume metric to have on this on this chart here. 69 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,880 And what we settled on was drop backs. 70 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,320 And so basically just how many times during during the game has 71 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,600 the has the team asked the quarterback to drop back in, 72 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,600 they're either passing or throwing it. 73 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,160 So that's kind of our main volume metric. 74 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,600 And then we have adjusted yards per attempt, which is it's, it's 75 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,000 an efficiency metric on passing. It's basically yards per 76 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,320 attempt. It rewards touchdowns, punishes 77 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,040 interceptions, not, not as sophisticated or as advanced as 78 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,920 EPA, but it's, it's to me, it's a lot more simple and intuitive 79 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,760 to, to kind of like understand and talk about. 80 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,680 And then the size of the bubble corresponds to rushing yardage. 81 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,920 So. Yeah, I guess that this was the, 82 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,000 this is this is probably going to be our most unstructured 83 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,320 part. This is the one where I said 84 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,720 let's let's just out of live this. 85 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,280 What's the I? I had a couple of guys that I, I 86 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:07,720 had thoughts on. I mean, first with the, with the 87 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,280 change in the chart, just in general what you're looking at 88 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:12,840 here every week, this is going to evolve each week as these 89 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:16,080 guys move and and their data becomes more stable. 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,280 Obviously there's a lot of noise in just a one week sample, but 91 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:22,240 in general, our favorite place for our guys to be is in the 92 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,200 upper right quadrant, right lot of drop backs, high adjusted 93 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,960 yards per 10th. So being efficient and getting a 94 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,000 lot of passing volume, that's great for fantasy. 95 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:34,040 And then it's icing on the cake where you're getting a floor 96 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,280 booster and a ceiling booster if their bubble is big, big bubble 97 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:41,320 equals big rushing upside, right and rushing floor. 98 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,360 And so that's kind of what you're looking at the thing the 99 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,040 the part of the chart that I think is like pretty, hey, you 100 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,280 really don't wanna be here. Like where there's, there's lots 101 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,240 of nuance to Hey, you're in the top left corner. 102 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,720 Well, that can be OK if you're like actually at the top of the 103 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,080 top left corner where you're just so efficient. 104 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,440 It doesn't really matter that you don't have a ton of drop 105 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,640 backs. You're just saying it it. 106 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,480 Unless your defense sucks ass if if if you're like massively 107 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,640 massively efficient then you're you're usually just ending 108 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,760 drives by by with long touchdowns or or big scores so 109 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,360 you're not actually having to drop back that often. 110 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,200 Yeah. The the ones that would concern 111 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,760 me is like where you have Tua and Cam Ward and you know, to a 112 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,720 lesser extent, Trevor Lawrence, you know, Joe Burrow, those guys 113 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,360 that are down in that range of the chart. 114 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,200 If someone's going to live there for the duration of the season, 115 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,360 that's probably someone you just can't really use in fantasy 116 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,520 unless the size of their bubbles really large. 117 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,120 They're just running a ton. Now caveat on Tua, he didn't 118 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,400 finish the game. The dolphins were so out of it 119 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,160 that Zach Wilson came in. So you know, I obviously I. 120 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Feel. For him, but. 121 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,280 I feel like Joe Burrow rents a spot in this quadrant of the 122 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:06,360 chart every September before. Before the Flyers. 123 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,000 Should be over right by October. Like he's like a snowbird. 124 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,000 Yeah. The other ones that I would 125 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,640 expect to leave here, based on what we saw from the Cowboys, I 126 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,240 would expect DAC Prescott to get better adjusted yards per 127 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,280 attempt. There were a good number of 128 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,480 drops he gets, you know, vultured by Javonte Williams who 129 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,280 gets 2 carries from the 1 yard line. 130 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,520 One of them is CD Lamb, you know, gets taken down at the one 131 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,600 would have been a touchdown otherwise for DAC and all of a 132 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,560 sudden you see his adjusted yards per attempt go up. 133 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,840 So that's another guy I would expect to probably leave this 134 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,920 quadrant. I'd expect to see their drop 135 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,480 backs go up a decent amount as well. 136 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,600 I'm kind of surprised that they didn't have more in this game, 137 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,680 but they weren't. They weren't as pushed by the 138 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,880 Eagles as I thought they might be. 139 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Their defense did a little better at keeping the scoring 140 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,800 down in the second-half. Really it was after that, that 141 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,440 rain delay or the weather delay. But the the guys that I thought 142 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,800 were really interesting to talk about, Spencer Rattler is 143 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,760 actually kind of interesting because the Saints, they had a 144 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,040 lot of drop backs and Spencer Rattler wasn't good, but he was 145 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,960 like, you know, serviceable enough that you could get some 146 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,880 fantasy usefulness out of it. Probably not out of him very 147 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:33,320 much, you know, like if he's at the very end of a best ball 148 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,320 roster for you, he might crack a line up or something. 149 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:40,120 But also him as a starter for the whole season is a little 150 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,559 ambiguous. But for the passing weapons in 151 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,960 this offense, I think you got to feel a little optimistic just 152 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,200 given the number of drop backs that they had. 153 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,680 Well, yeah, they they the what you call it, the the prices on 154 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:56,040 the Saints players as a whole was just that they were going to 155 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:02,760 crater and be just like a catastrophic atomic wasteland 156 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,760 where there was going to be nothing usable, nothing was 157 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:11,480 going to work. And like, what is it 49 drop 158 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:17,000 backs or whatever? And then 4.7 adjusted yards per 159 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,040 attempt is like this. That's that's I guess this is 160 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,760 yeah, this is per attempt is like not great. 161 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:30,160 It's honestly not not very good and but in the context of the 162 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:35,960 Olave price of the Juan Johnson price, the Shahid price, like 163 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,840 like a combination of a high drop back count and like not 164 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,840 like shitting the bad efficiency is like a map to me. 165 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,640 That's like a massive, massive win if that holds up over the 166 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,240 season. Yeah, and for me, all these guys 167 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,200 that are like in the low efficiency 2 quadrants of the 168 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,920 chart because it's just one week and so much of efficiency can be 169 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,480 driven by touchdowns here for adjusted yards per attempt. 170 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,240 Those are the guys where I'm looking like is is there a 171 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,480 chance that this guy, you know, either ran cold on touchdowns in 172 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Week 1 or or could do better going forward? 173 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,800 So like Drake May, Joe Flacco, both guys that I think could do 174 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,800 a lot better. Joe Flacco actually could have 175 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,320 had such a crazy day when you think about it. 176 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,600 He had multiple bad drops by his receivers, multiple 177 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,200 interceptions that were not his fault. 178 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,240 It was literally just his receivers playing volleyball and 179 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,080 setting it up to the defense. So like you could, I think 180 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Flacco and May are the ones where you're getting a good 181 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:37,720 amount of drop backs and I think that they could have positive 182 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,400 touchdown regression and see themselves being that really 183 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,640 favorable quadrant. So those are ones where I'm 184 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,800 willing to like play it before we see it type stuff for DFS. 185 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,280 The other one that I'm really interested in just leaning into 186 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,840 a thing before the market gets on to this trend is I think 187 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,560 Justin Herbert is gonna be the 6th quarterback drafted overall 188 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:03,400 in 2026. And there's a couple reasons for 189 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,600 that. Number one, the Chargers had a 190 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,480 15% positive pass rate over expectation, which is an 191 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,080 enormous number. That's like huge, huge outlier. 192 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,760 They probably will never get to that again this season, but it 193 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,360 does say something that they are willing to open it up and let 194 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,680 Justin Herbert throw. The other thing that I really 195 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:27,760 think is the big driver, to me, that's a a massive departure 196 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,960 from what he's been in the past and what he was last year is 197 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,520 this will be the season where Justin Herbert rushes for his 198 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,240 most career yards. You know, barring any injury or 199 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,080 anything crazy like that. We saw this shift happen part 200 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,840 way through last season in the first half of 2024. 201 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,920 Justin Herbert was dealing with, I believe it was plantar 202 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,880 fasciitis and and I think there is another foot injury too. 203 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,320 He he was all banged up where he was having a lot of trouble with 204 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,600 his mobility early in the season, weeks one through 7, he 205 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,720 averaged like I want to say it was 5 rushing yards per game. 206 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,360 And then in weeks 8 on he averaged like 25 rushing yards 207 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,520 per game. So a 20 yard rushing yard per 208 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,520 game difference on average in the first half of the season. 209 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,480 He's dealing with that injury to the back half of the season and 210 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,720 this is something that's been consistent in Greg Roman 211 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,320 offenses across his tenure in the NFL. 212 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,720 He does like to have his quarterback use their legs to 213 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,480 threaten the defense and and basically take away some 214 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,160 coverages that the defense might want to use by keeping them 215 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,440 honest with the quarterback's ability to scramble. 216 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,160 And Herbert is athletic enough to do it. 217 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,800 He obviously has an incredible arm, so he can threaten the 218 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,480 defense deep. I I think that this is going to 219 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,640 be the season where we see Herbert kind of ascend into that 220 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,760 lower rushing. You know, as far as like all the 221 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,160 rushing QBs go, he's not going to run for as many yards as 222 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,560 Lamar or Fields or or Daniels or anything, but he's going to run 223 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:56,520 for a a good clip. 500 rushing yards at the end of the season 224 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,840 wouldn't surprise me. 600 would be like starting to push it, but 225 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,240 I've Herbert is another one where I just want to slam this 226 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,640 before projection systems catch up and the field catches up. 227 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:10,920 Basically, if you're using a projection system and you can 228 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,360 see their detailed projections and Justin Herbert isn't 229 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,880 projected for greater than 20 rush yards on a week, I would 230 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,640 adjust his projection up and just say, hey, I, I know better. 231 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,640 I, I see this trend, I see the writing on the wall here. 232 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,160 This guy's gonna run more. And you can use that to modify 233 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,800 projections while there's still a lot of fragility there. 234 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,800 And, and just them, I guess the on, on the rushing yard thing. 235 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,560 And just so this, this, this point we clear to a lot of 236 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:46,560 people, but some not. So 20 rushing yards extra a game 237 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,000 is like 2 points, which that doesn't sound like that much. 238 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,840 But in terms of like being projected for 17 points versus 239 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,120 projected for 19 points, it's it's a big deal. 240 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:03,200 Yeah, so he's he's definitely what I'm excited about. 241 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,040 Any guys that you wanted to touch on here or should we move 242 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,200 on to the running back chart? No, I, I, I agree with kind of 243 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,800 most of what you're saying there where obviously my true term 244 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,640 take was that the, the Browns be fun bad. 245 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,320 My my kind of one concern in terms of like the Browns looking 246 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,440 like serviceable is that they were playing, playing the 247 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,400 Bengals. So like that that's kind of the 248 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,560 one kind of thing in the in the back of my head there. 249 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,200 I guess the other, the other note and we and we can touch on 250 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,920 this more in the receiver stuff that I had was Baker Mayfield 251 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,880 was pretty average, whereas the last couple of years he's been 252 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,600 like kind of pretty efficient where he didn't have like he 253 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,400 didn't actually have that great of a game. 254 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,880 I guess that that that's just something that I noticed that 255 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 will that we'll be keeping an eye on. 256 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,280 And then lastly, do want to mention just because it's it's 257 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,760 clear obvious point Geno Smith like is is just got his absolute 258 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,120 hog out where like almost 40 drop backs a game. 259 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,040 He's trying out a 10 yard A dot, like an out of a 10 yard A dot. 260 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,120 He's like 70% completion rate, which is like 10% over the 261 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,240 expected. So like he is just absolutely 262 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:31,280 bawling. And then I think that the the 263 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,880 Raiders pieces just become like they become targets. 264 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,680 I I guess it's other than the two kind of major guys, which is 265 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Bowers and Jacoby Myers, none of them are kind of every week 266 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,920 starters. But when people are kind of 267 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,840 thinking about dark Dartros, like Raiders are pretty fun 268 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,240 Dartros. Yeah, great, great shout out. 269 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,120 Definitely glad that we gave Geno Smith some flowers. 270 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,680 He was one of my favorite late round quarterbacks. 271 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,560 I, I know in a ton of the drafts that we did, I was constantly 272 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,640 trying to get you to draft Geno Smith over guys that, that were 273 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,160 more fun. And I, I think that this is 274 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,240 going to be sticky because Gino's been good, man. 275 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,080 He's, he's been good since he, you know, got his second shot 276 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,800 when he was at the Seahawks. And I, I'm just excited to see 277 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,440 what Gino does. All the people who right, right 278 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,400 the longest. Stuff kind of kind of favored 279 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,920 him, him having a good start. And I know people have like kind 280 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,480 of like questions on like, hey, will Chip Kelly be able to stick 281 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,720 it in the league after getting relegated? 282 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Almost Will Pete Carroll be able to like will Pete Carroll 283 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:52,080 offense make any sense? But Gino being good and their 284 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,960 and their offense being fun. I think we we were kind of 285 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,280 expecting it, but great. They got the confirmation. 286 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,760 Yes, Sunday. Yeah, I also, I think the 287 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Patriots defense might be, you know, right now they're missing 288 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,480 Christian Gonzalez. So they're, you know, they're 289 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,760 secondary a little depleted compared to what it will be. 290 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,359 And, and he's one of the better corners in the league. 291 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,280 But I, I think that their defensive line is, is much 292 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,560 improved. You know, they get Milton 293 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,880 Williams and then they get a lot of help from the, the Vrabel 294 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,560 cronies. You know, that that were with 295 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,000 him. Vrabel brings over a lot of 296 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,040 guys. And, and I think that in 297 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,160 general, the Patriots saw like a pretty substantial defensive 298 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,240 improvement. It didn't totally show in week 299 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,880 1, but I, I would not be surprised to see them improve 300 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,880 over the course of the season. I, I guess what I'm saying is 301 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,280 I'm not really freaking out that Genti wasn't able to run against 302 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,960 that patriots defense there. You know, I think their 303 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,480 defensive line's much improved and, and Gino was still able to 304 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,440 dice them up. So I think it's bullish across 305 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,960 the board for the Raiders just on Hey, Gino can can be the 306 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:01,360 engine of the offense. Yeah, just on the ESPN pass, 307 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:09,080 pass rush and run, run at run stuffing, they were like #3 and, 308 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,560 and pass rush win rate #2 and run stuff win rate on the week. 309 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,640 So New England Patriots at the defensive line absolutely 310 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,240 dominate in that game. So that is that is kind of an 311 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,760 interesting note that Gino's still dominated and and makes 312 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,560 you feel better about the the future prospects for Janti. 313 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,080 All right, time to move on to the running back chart. 314 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,520 And so that was weird. I have to like zoom in for the 315 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,720 quarterback chart and then zoom back out for the the running 316 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,280 back chart. And so obviously the biggest 317 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:51,960 surprise for me on on week 1 was kind of how how much of a kind 318 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,040 of a bell cow Javonte Williams was. 319 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,720 I know you're kind of like the, the, the big Cowboys watcher 320 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,880 among us. So I, I, I'm, I'm more than 321 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,680 anything, I'm kind of curious as as what your take on that usage. 322 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,800 Yeah, I I thought it would be a little bit more split between 323 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,480 him and Sanders and it was to start the game. 324 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,000 But when you put the ball on the ground, you know, and what 325 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:21,920 ultimately ended up being kind of like the game losing play for 326 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,760 Miles Sanders, where he fumbles when they're inside the red zone 327 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:28,120 and then, you know, denies the Cowboys a score there. 328 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:31,360 Eagles get the ball. That that was kind of the thing 329 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:34,720 that turned the game. And Kyle Sanders, I don't 330 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,240 believe, saw the field after that. 331 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,560 So there, there's a couple things going on with the Cowboys 332 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,120 #1 their backfield's completely devoid of talent. 333 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Their highest paid player in that backfield is their 334 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,000 fullback, Hunter Lipke. OK, Javonte Williams looked 335 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000 decent to start, but I mean really the tail of this game is 336 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,400 that Javonte Williams got 2, you know, carries from the 1 yard 337 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,600 line and fell into the end zone and kudos to him for converting, 338 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,280 but you know, you're not going to get carries from the 1 yard 339 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,360 line all the time. His his long run was 11 yards, 340 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,080 you know, and the Eagles lost their best run defender before 341 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,520 the 1st snap even happened. So I'm not particularly bullish 342 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,360 on Javonte going forward from an efficiency standpoint. 343 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,440 From a workload standpoint, I think that he will probably hang 344 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,480 on to the majority of the work in the same way that we saw Zeke 345 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,000 hang on to the majority of the work for far too long last 346 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,400 season. I just, I think it's an uphill 347 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,040 battle for Jane Blue, who's not particularly talented himself. 348 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840 His one thing that he has going for him is that he is fast. 349 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,360 Unfortunately, fast and bad is not so great. 350 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:51,400 I mean, that's why you're a Week 1 inactive. 351 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,640 If he I, I think if he gets on the field, he will deliver 352 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,320 enough explosive plays that he is, you know, able to start 353 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,080 carving out some work from Javonte. 354 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,160 I would hope that the Cowboys are able to self scout and 355 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,760 evaluate well enough to realize that Miles Sanders should not be 356 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,640 active on an NFL roster. But they do strange things, man. 357 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,800 So my, my kind of like calling card this whole offseason 358 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,800 whenever we talk about how to rank the Cowboys backfield was 359 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,760 it's not going to surprise me at all to see five different 360 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,320 players get touches out of the backfield in a single game. 361 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:36,560 You know, be that Javonte Williams, Miles Sanders, Jayden 362 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,840 Blue, Hunter Lipke and Kevante Turpin. 363 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,280 And Kevante Turpin is kind of the unsung character in this 364 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,960 story here where he is going to Leech points away from these 365 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,520 running backs where he's not particularly fantasy useful on 366 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,560 his own, but he is a thorn in the side of these low efficiency 367 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,600 backs that are benefiting from volume. 368 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,840 And when Kevante Turpin's taking that volume away, it's really 369 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,560 not super helpful. So I mean, if you have Jevante 370 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,840 and you can sell him in like a managed league, great. 371 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,680 Try and, you know, try and sell him off that two touchdown game. 372 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:14,800 If you're in dire need of a running back to to plug in and 373 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,840 start in a managed league, you could do worse than Javonte 374 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,520 Williams. He'll probably get the work and 375 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,440 he's on an offense that should score points. 376 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,760 But yeah, I'm, I'm not, I'm not buying that this is some 377 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,120 resurgence of Javonte Williams, you know, in spite of a, a very 378 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:34,880 strong Week 1 role. Yeah, yeah, love seeing the week 379 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,200 1 roll. I'm looking at his next John 380 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,640 stats stuff and he was like neutral on rush yard over 381 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,720 expected. So like that. 382 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,120 But that neutral is like 3.6 yards carry. 383 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:52,720 And I guess the the Eagles did play a pretty heavy box. 384 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,480 They'd like a 20. What is it, 26% and eight man 385 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:03,680 box rate? But yeah, I, I guess it, I guess 386 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,280 the take away is that he's still bad or still not great. 387 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:12,760 And, and what you, what you're kind of saying is like, hey, 388 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,600 they have a lot of different pieces that they can lean on 389 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:20,200 like rotationally. So like they just because the, 390 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,960 the, the individual pieces are not great and can't like 391 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,520 individually threaten them. They could definitely become 392 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,520 more rotational by leaning and so on some other guys more and 393 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,680 then I don't I don't know if the story is like if the book is 394 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,240 closed on blue eater where like he could they could definitely 395 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,720 decide to make him active over my Sanders. 396 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,480 They should and then they should right. 397 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,640 And, and, and he could definitely be much more of a 398 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,960 trap to, to that kind of usage going forward. 399 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,480 And I guess like what the usage is with the official, with where 400 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,000 the efficiency is, it's like, hey, you're probably going to 401 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,960 get 60 yards most weeks and you hope to get it out of touchdown 402 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,920 on top of it. Maybe you get get a couple of 403 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,920 catches. So like good weeks you're at 10 404 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,720 or so, good weeks you're at 15 and bad weeks you're at like 10 405 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,000 or like maybe. And I guess obviously had the 406 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,640 two touchdowns this week, which so he got more than that. 407 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,160 But your, your, your upside's still pretty capped. 408 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,640 And I, I feel like even that 10 point like floor is pretty 409 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,400 threatened to by all the factors we just talked about. 410 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,720 Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all if by Week 5 you're just 411 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,480 unable to start Javonte Williams in a managed league. 412 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,880 You know, I mean, even even now, like if you told me, hey, you 413 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,720 got to start Javonte Williams or you know, like, I'm not starting 414 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,520 him over James Conner. I'm not starting him over Amari 415 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,080 and Hampton. No, no, no. 416 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,160 Prob like I'm I'm starting him over Ramondre Stevenson. 417 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,040 You know, Yeah, yeah, for now. For now. 418 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,200 What, what do you think about like Isaiah Pacheco, Javonte 419 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,440 Williams? Who are you starting there? 420 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,120 And you're, you're probably right now you're probably 421 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:12,000 starting Javonte just because Pacheco is so committee 422 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,880 challenged. Here, here's a good one. 423 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,720 This this one actually, I think is the line. 424 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,560 I think we found it. Jordan Mason or Javonte. 425 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,600 And honestly, I think I'm like, I think I'm Mason. 426 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,720 Yeah, I'm Mason. Mason actually looked good, 427 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,720 right? Like Mason. 428 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,400 Mason is a good player in the NFL and he's on a he's on a team 429 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,520 that should look better than they looked the majority of last 430 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,720 night. I mean, God, it was that first 431 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,960 half was bleak, man. That was like, it was very 432 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,640 depressing. I I feel for Vikings fans that 433 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,920 had to sit through that first half. 434 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,440 But like when people said that when when we were hearing the 435 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,600 during the offseason that Mason was going to be like 1A1B it 436 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,880 with Aaron Jones, I was expecting Aaron Jones to be the 437 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,400 1A, not Jordan Mason I think. Actually, I think it's more of 438 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,480 just like the the utility that they want to get from them where 439 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480 a lot of the time when they were running Mason, it's like the 440 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,760 these are going to be the hard yards type runs. 441 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,240 You know, a lot of the inside the between the tackles type 442 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,000 stuff and the Aaron Jones stuff was a little bit more like, hey, 443 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,360 we want you out here as a pass catcher. 444 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,520 We want you to run outside the tackles. 445 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,480 You're the space back. Yeah, exactly. 446 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,640 But yeah, I, I still, I was still expecting Aaron Jones to 447 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,400 retain maybe enough of the meat and potato runs that he would be 448 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,120 ahead. So I'm still, I'm still like a 449 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:43,560 little bit surprised at that. Mason is ahead. 450 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,280 I'm the only, I guess the one thing that we, we lose by not 451 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,960 having expected points is we're not looking at any, any Green 452 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,240 Zone touches. I, I, I assume, I think Aaron 453 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,880 Jones is still ahead on the on the Green Zone stuff. 454 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:04,240 Yeah, I'd, I'd have to look at that, but I, I would assume 455 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,960 you're right, although I, I know Mason, you know, definitely 456 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,240 they, they seem like they like him for short yardage stuff too. 457 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,760 So it could just really be a true 5050 as far as fantasy 458 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,520 value is concerned, where the average value of a touch that 459 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,800 Aaron Jones is getting is slightly higher than the average 460 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,520 value of a touch Jordan Mason is getting. 461 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,480 But Mason's getting enough more work that he kind of offsets 462 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,840 that difference in touch value. So I think I think they truly 463 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,920 are like 1A1B as far as fantasy is concerned here. 464 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,040 You know who does not look to be like A1A1B here? 465 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,160 So much so that I don't believe that the first back I'm going to 466 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:57,280 mention is on this first chart, he's not Kenneth Walker and Zach 467 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,200 Charbonnet. Man, that's a man. 468 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,480 Talk about a flipping of how the the market had it this 469 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,320 offseason. Do you think that's sticky? 470 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,040 I don't like honestly, I'm not, I'm not comfortable saying at 471 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,560 this point whether it's sticky or not just because it's so out 472 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,960 of that field. Like the, the noise on Kenneth 473 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:25,240 Walker was so strong, like, and he's like his, his, his strength 474 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,880 as a prospect and like what he does well is so good. 475 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,680 And, and like Chardonnay is kind of more boring. 476 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,480 I, I, I'm like, honestly so shocked by that. 477 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,280 I, I, I think it's a little, maybe a bit of a little bit more 478 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,920 premature to be able to call it one way or the other. 479 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,320 But you, you, you certainly you cannot ignore and you cannot 480 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,320 ignore this at all. Like if we get another week of 481 00:28:55,320 --> 00:29:00,280 this, like, then it's it's, it's just that, oh, by the way, I did 482 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,240 look it up. So while Aaron Jones did get 11 483 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,360 red zone target, Jordan Mason got 3 red zone carries. 484 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,880 So he's got the kind of goal line rusher role. 485 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,520 Yeah, that is, that's good to verify there. 486 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:23,600 But yeah, so I think 1A1B is, I mean, really it's just like 487 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,760 they're both 1A. There's, there's no, they're 488 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,720 just, yeah. I I was expecting a little bit 489 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,560 more gap between them. Yeah. 490 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:40,760 Another guy that the market was expecting there to be, I guess 491 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,240 kind of a, a reverse from consensus on is the The Jets 492 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,840 backfield situation where you had all this steam on Braylon 493 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,560 Allen. I mean, man, I I didn't really, 494 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,480 this was a price that just like didn't really clock for me 495 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,480 because I was never clicking him. 496 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,240 But like at the end of draft season, Braylon Allen was going 497 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,920 in like the tenth round. Man, it was it was wild. 498 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,200 So Braylon Allen screams up. Meanwhile Breece Hall is like 499 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,680 going in the 6th. I'm, I'm watching people draft 500 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:17,120 on streams and I was watching a draft with Neil Orfield and, and 501 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,960 BP were on doing a, a DraftKings Millie draft and they pass on 502 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Breece in the fifth round and I'm screaming in the chat like 503 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,720 he's the top of the sidekick. You click him and and then he 504 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,000 comes back to him in the 6th and thankfully he took him there. 505 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,640 But my God, man, the the market got so so out on Breece at the 506 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,640 end and so in on Braylon Allen, who, despite having the rest of 507 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,800 his life ahead of him, unfortunately is not very good 508 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,480 at football. Right, right, that that rest of 509 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,240 his life might be doing something else. 510 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,560 Yeah, he has. I'm being a little harsh, I'm 511 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,080 being a little harsh. But it it definitely on the 512 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,120 opening drives, it looked like The Jets intended for it to be 513 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,160 much more of a split where you're seeing Breece fucking 514 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,240 cook the defense. And then he gets to the he has 515 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,480 an 8 yard run on 1st down. And then they bring in Braylon 516 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,280 Allen and Braylon Allen just about gets the two for the first 517 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,400 down. And it's like it's just a stark 518 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,480 night and day difference. And I'm only counting rush 519 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:30,680 attempts for the backs here. But of 27 running back Russia at 520 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,120 rush attempts, Bruce Hall ended with 19 of them. 521 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Like I feel like this is a he ended. 522 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,760 He ended on the whole day. He ended up with a 60%, like 523 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:48,040 kind of like he ended up with a 58% snap rate. 524 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,320 So like that's kind of like head of a committee, like on the face 525 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,080 of it. But by the end, the trend was so 526 00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,320 clear, like Breeze Hall is, is, is the fact that they need to 527 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,640 make things happen. Like it's it's so clear to me 528 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,800 that like he's a better player. And then I guess the the other 529 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,160 chain that kind of factored into people's hesitancy on Breeze 530 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,720 Hall was he had a pretty damn, he had a pretty down or bad year 531 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,680 last year. And people were honestly that 532 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,920 that that was like a little, it was a little tough to chew on. 533 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,000 And but the fact that he looked fantastic in week 1. 534 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,680 It's 28 rushing yards over expected, 107 yards and 19 535 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:40,880 calories and looked so electric that and I think he's he's 536 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,120 literally like only 20. He's like he's I think he's like 537 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:50,040 24 or 25 like there he's 24. So like the the odds of that he 538 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,320 like aged out last year was it doesn't compute. 539 00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:01,440 So Breece Hall is probably, you're probably getting this 540 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,200 year what you wanted from Breece Hall when people are drafting 541 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,560 them in the middle of the first round would be my would be my 542 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,320 take away from this week. Yeah, they they may have had 543 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,520 plans to involve Braylon Allen and Isaiah Davis more, but you 544 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,800 know, as the saying goes, the best laid plans of Aaron Glenn 545 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,680 off and go awry and and Bruce Hall, you know, put the the 546 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,400 plans in the dumpster pretty immediately. 547 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,360 Like they're right. There just was not a decision 548 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,840 really to be made and and you could you could tell it was 549 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,840 evident that the coaching staff knew too. 550 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,840 They're like, all right, we cool experiment, very neat. 551 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,600 Let's, let's we. Probably should have extended 552 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,480 this guy already. Yeah. 553 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,320 So it definitely extremely bullish for Breece. 554 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,800 I mean, obviously Justin Fields being there to help keep the 555 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,800 defense honest is really, really beneficial for him from an 556 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,320 efficiency standpoint. So yeah, it's it's wheels up for 557 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,120 Breece Hall. The only like fly in the 558 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,200 ointment, I would say is he didn't run as many routes as we 559 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,600 would have liked. And what we've come to expect 560 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,760 from him, it could just, we, we talked about this a little bit 561 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,560 offline. Yeah, yeah, we had a talk with 562 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,679 our but he called the war check about it. 563 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,320 Yeah, it may have just been game plan specific where you know, he 564 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,159 needed to stay in to help help block a little bit more against 565 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,320 the Steelers pass rush, things like that. 566 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,520 But anyway, something to monitor for sure because if his 567 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,520 receiving were 8. Routes and them and six pass 568 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,159 blocks so that they did have him pass blocking a lot more. 569 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,000 And what's what's strange is it's in combination is that they 570 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,159 they almost never blocked their type pass block their tight 571 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,600 ends. So they had Jeremy Rickards and 572 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,199 Mason Taylor running rights down the field and leaving Bruce Hall 573 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,760 into block like that. That's kind of where we're 574 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,640 getting into like maybe this was like game plan specific for the 575 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,360 Steelers. Maybe they've kind of determined 576 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:08,280 that they're weak, the tight ends and better recovering and 577 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,720 running backs. And but like you're saying, 578 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,600 it's, it's, it's a bit of a flying ointment. 579 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,720 We, we, we definitely prefer more routes. 580 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,160 We prefer more targets and but something to something to watch 581 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,760 going forward. Yeah, if he made me bet on it, I 582 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,840 would say that we're we'll see the routes increase just because 583 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,160 they they kind of need him to, right. 584 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,200 Right, right. He's their second best receiver. 585 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,360 It, it's I, I think it's going to be a slower realization of 586 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,640 what they realized about the Russian game in Week 1, where 587 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,120 they're like, Oh yeah, this Breeze guy needs to touch the 588 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,920 ball more. OK, we, we'll figure it out. 589 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,160 And and because they were rational about that and made 590 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,400 that that change almost immediately, I think they'll be 591 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,040 able to get there in the past. Eventually, like the the running 592 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,520 team just slaps you in the face where you're watching the game 593 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,400 and it's like so obvious, like you have to be blind to not see 594 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,000 the running team. I think the the the routes thing 595 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,120 where's like it's going to be one of those things where he 596 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,280 gets a ball, he gets a target and he makes a massive play. 597 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,480 And then in the same game the tight end like does something 598 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,240 stupid where like they eventually go like, huh, we 599 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,320 should get him the ball. Like what you're saying. 600 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,720 Anyway, I, I think, I think we've made our, our self clear 601 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,960 on on brief, the other one, and this one is probably a little 602 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,640 bit more controversial. And I, I've kind of laid out 603 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,480 some, some of my initial thoughts on on Christy McCaffrey 604 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,600 on the discord. And but curious what you think 605 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,400 about like the combination of like what is it 31 touches but 606 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,720 then like 3 yards per carry on the ground on, on? 607 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,480 Yeah, I mean, it was a monster workload. 608 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,840 So you have to you have to feel good about that. 609 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,680 And I think how large the workload was, it gives you at 610 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,240 least a little bit of signal as to hey, the the injury stuff 611 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:09,760 truly it wasn't like a hey, this is a flare up that could be 612 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,200 really serious type thing. It it truly was a, you know, 613 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,360 abundance of caution type thing with him being limited this last 614 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,760 week at practice. So I think the volume helps you 615 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,600 just be a little less concerned about seasoning and ending 616 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,040 injury popping up. I'm dialing down risk just a 617 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,440 shade in the mental model. But we had people. 618 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,760 We had Davis Matic ready to jump off a Cliff. 619 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,960 Based on the. Based on the LP at practice and 620 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,040 then with the MP, like I, I don't know, we're picking on 621 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,200 Davis, but there was plenty of people who were like, it's 622 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,040 absolutely joking for this guy, like he'll never what, he'll 623 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,400 never play again, never be the same guy. 624 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,760 So having having the monster workload, like relative to that 625 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:02,040 concern, big, big deal. One thing I wanted to note on 626 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:08,120 like his raw play count is that the the 49ers had ran 75 plays, 627 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,840 like so like and it's funny, 75 plays and they gave it to him 31 628 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,600 times. So like 40% of their offense was 629 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,280 still CMC. But I do think that's like some 630 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,240 important context in his raw touch count is like they just 631 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:29,040 had like a what you call it, they just ran a lot of plays. 632 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,040 And what's funny is that Brian Robinson also had nine attempts 633 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:40,840 and ran 7 routes and maybe that what maybe that's more why are 634 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,800 more as a result of the 75 plays. 635 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,920 And but I did think that's important context and like, I 636 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:54,160 guess don't like 3131 touches in the game is unsustainable. 637 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,720 So it probably does come down. And then I guess the other thing 638 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:03,400 that kind of bothers me like, and maybe I'm focusing on it too 639 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,760 much, but, and this is kind of what I laid out, which is like 640 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:15,080 he was like the in terms of Next Gen. stats, he had the the most 641 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:21,560 rushing yards underexpected of anybody on in week 1. 642 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,320 And obviously you got 22 carries that that's going to help you 643 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,840 get there. But like he had like minus like 644 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,000 1.15 in the yards in the rushing yards under expected per 645 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,160 attempt. Like they, they ran against some 646 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:42,080 of the lightest boxes where like the only only 9% of his carries 647 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:48,360 were against an 8 man box. I, I do have a tough time with 648 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,560 that. And I guess it's, it's kind of 649 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,640 like it's on the other side. You do have the volume and then 650 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,080 he's clearly still the best receiving back in football. 651 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,000 So you still have that, which is is pretty nice on a team where 652 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,680 they're they're what you call it, their their receivers. 653 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,080 And then Kittle is struggling for injury And, but, and then 654 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,040 and then I guess the other thing about it is when I look at when 655 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,960 I look at the the San Francisco 49ers. 656 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:31,240 Their their online it was 27th in in run block win rate, so not 657 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:35,120 great. And then the the, the Seahawks, 658 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,240 their their run stuff win rate was 5. 659 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:42,800 So maybe, maybe the the Seahawks are just like a very strong run 660 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,560 stuff in defense. I think that's part of it. 661 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,600 I think the Seahawks defense might be for real. 662 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,360 Like they're fifth in the run stuff rate, so maybe that's it. 663 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,760 Yeah, I, I'm definitely, I echo your concerns though on the 664 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,320 efficiency stuff. It it wouldn't be surprising at 665 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,560 all to see a guy come off of, you know, bilateral Achilles 666 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,360 tendonitis and all of a sudden and, and also a totally separate 667 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,640 PCL injury that ends his season. You know, like the guy's wearing 668 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,480 a lot of injuries here and he's an older player. 669 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,600 So the efficiency declining should be yeah, right. 670 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,080 It it should be the rule rather than the exception. 671 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,640 So. And. 672 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,120 Then it's kind of like we're seeing that we're yeah, we're 673 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,520 seeing the low efficiency on week 1. 674 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,120 Like normally for these older guys, Week 1 is where they wear 675 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,560 it the best. And, and I like, I made the 676 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,640 counter argument to myself that like, Hey, the Seahawks run 677 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,400 defense might just be really good. 678 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,160 And, but that's usually for a player of, of CM CS caliber, 679 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,400 it's like it, it doesn't matter that the run defense is really 680 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,440 good. He's just like pimpin. 681 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:03,800 And but I, I, I, I, I think, I think we've, we've said what we 682 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,560 have to say on, on CMC, I'm ready to, to put a bow on it. 683 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,960 Yeah, the only, the only other running back spots I think we 684 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,640 should talk about here. We can hit these ones a little 685 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:21,320 quicker, but Pittsburgh, you see Kenneth Gainwell here on this 686 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,800 chart and I believe, did Jalen Warren not make this chart? 687 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,320 I don't think he did. He's on the the backups chart. 688 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,560 Is that right? Yeah, yeah, let me, let me 689 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,200 scroll. There he is, right here. 690 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,000 Yeah, right next to Kenneth Walker. 691 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,760 So yeah, you get a ton of heaping helping of Kenneth 692 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,960 Gainwell to start the game, which not great for Jalen 693 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,480 Warren. You know, eventually it seems 694 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,400 like it flips and Warren is the guy getting a bunch of the work 695 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,080 and Gainwell is is kind of on the outs. 696 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,840 But and also Caleb Johnson, just like if you got him on a managed 697 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,760 team, you can cut him and and churn him for someone else. 698 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,000 He not not saying he's dead for this season. 699 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:03,280 It's just going to take a while. And don't worry, there ain't no 700 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,120 risk of someone else picking him up off waivers like he's he's 701 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,120 got a ways to go. You're talking about home 702 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,080 leagues that have shorter benches, right? 703 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,720 You're not talking about like main event. 704 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:13,640 Everyone. No. 705 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,000 No, no, no, no, no. Yeah. 706 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,520 I just wanted to specify, Yeah. Yeah, no, in a main event, 707 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,840 there's probably not anything on your waivers worth churning 708 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,080 Caleb for, right? Like Caleb is the thing that you 709 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,440 would be holding. Yeah, but I here here's 1, 710 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,640 though, hypothetically say DJ Giddens is out there on waivers. 711 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,480 You want DJ Giddens? You want Caleb Johnson? 712 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,320 Oh, man, it's it's close, right? It's really close. 713 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:47,200 And you've probably still won Caleb Johnson. 714 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,240 And just because DJ Gidon is behind John and freaking Taylor. 715 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,000 So like, he's not, he's not like making serious inroads there. 716 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:01,240 Whereas I feel like Kenneth Gainwell is is over the course 717 00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:03,640 of the season is is going to be easier to knock off. 718 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,640 Yeah. No, that's, I think that's fair. 719 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,520 But the fact that that's close is right. 720 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,040 Right. Much closer where he's like you 721 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,000 kind of evaluate them and like, hey, DJ Giddens actually did see 722 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,480 the field because he's the number 2 back, even though like 723 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,040 they they actually didn't want to play for second back. 724 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,080 And then Caleb Johnson and hey, he's got two guys ahead of him 725 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,080 and and they think Gamewell is better than him and it's like, 726 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,440 woof. Yeah, but doesn't bode super 727 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,440 well for him. But he's not dead, I mean. 728 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,760 He's no, no, he's not dead. And, and we've seen it before. 729 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,960 We've seen backs start off kind of like inactive or, or not 730 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,760 playing Week 1 and then become major, major parts of the season 731 00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:51,200 once they kind of come on in their rookie year. 732 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,240 Like that's just that can just be part of their journey. 733 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,320 Absolutely. The the extra like the reason I 734 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,560 am a little overreactive on Caleb Johnson is just the the 735 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,000 stuff that we heard from camp about Rogers, just, you know, 736 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,200 ripping him a new one and and being like he Rogers. 737 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,480 Rogers chewed him out so publicly and loudly that there 738 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,960 were multiple different articles written about how like nasty and 739 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,320 loud Rogers was about Caleb Johnson's performance during 740 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,360 training camp. And and when you think about it, 741 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,280 like Aaron Rodgers doesn't seem like the most pleasant 742 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,280 individual to begin with. And so if something that he is 743 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,360 doing is eliciting, you know, multiple articles worth of 744 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,800 content about like, hey, this guy was a real asshole of this 745 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,920 rookie and really seems to not like him. 746 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,720 Like, to me, that's enough, especially with just who Rodgers 747 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,240 is as a player, where if he doesn't like you, you just won't 748 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,640 see the field. Like he has that kind of pole. 749 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,680 So that that to me is like extra concerning. 750 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,320 And then when Caleb Johnson gets what one carry and then he 751 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,600 fumbles on a kick off and it's just like, yeah, it seems like 752 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,120 it's gonna be tough sledding for him. 753 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,440 Again, not dead, but I think his Rd. is a lot more challenging 754 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,320 than other guys that would. You know, we've seen in in 755 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:20,320 similar situations historically the only other backfield that we 756 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,400 had a note on here, we had two more. 757 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,120 And and kind of. Similar. 758 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,960 Yep. We had the Commanders where 759 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:34,160 obviously we saw Bill. He I think he he didn't, he end 760 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,680 up being the the leading rusher. He was. 761 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,640 He was, yeah. He ripped off a really big, I 762 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,240 think it was like a 42 yarder near the end of the game that 763 00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:45,360 helped make his stat line look a little nicer. 764 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,360 But he looked good. I think he had 80 something 765 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,080 total yards. You know, half of them came on 766 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,280 that one big play. Gets in the end zone as well, 767 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,160 but he looked good from from watching him. 768 00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,440 He was fast. He's not a guy who when I had 769 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,440 watched him previously, like in preseason stuff, he didn't 770 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,440 really pop as like the fastest guy on the field. 771 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,360 To me. He looked, he looked pretty 772 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,200 quick here in Week 1. So that was like my previous 773 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,320 concern was I think this guy might not actually be that fast, 774 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:19,560 but maybe he just gets the Brian Robinson role and like at the 775 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,920 really cheap price that you could get him at before he shot 776 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,600 up. That's a great win, but he might 777 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,680 he could definitely turn into like Brian Robinson with juice 778 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,080 is my. Right, well, he he so I'm 779 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,440 looking at his numbers here. He had he had 10 rush attempts, 780 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,160 which led the led the the running backs for rush attempts 781 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,840 and then the other guys. So he had like the other guys 782 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,080 had six and four. So he's definitely their their 783 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,280 their main. But then again, I guess when he 784 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,360 was getting his rush attempts is when they were there firmly in 785 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,720 control. So like they they really could 786 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,560 afford to see what they had in him. 787 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,480 So maybe, yeah, maybe his rush attempts was like some of it was 788 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,360 was came about from the game script. 789 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:15,160 And however, him looking good doing it and and and and them 790 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,080 even even with even with the game strip them will being 791 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:23,360 willing to do that week one of his rookie year them making C 792 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,800 Rod inactive and him looking good. 793 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,800 Like I think that those bode really, really well. 794 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,000 Still have the limitation that Austin Eckler and Jeremy 795 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,800 Mcnichols have like just the iron lock on the passing stuff 796 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,320 or most of the passing stuff like that. 797 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,800 That really does not get ceiling. 798 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,560 But agree with you that we're we're looking at at Brian 799 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:53,360 Robinson, which is as we move forward, that's kind of like 800 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,880 where that row is going. Yeah, I, I don't think it was 801 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,360 too much game script related. It it really the what happened 802 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,320 was Eckler got, I want to say the first three drives was like 803 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,720 basically all Austin Eckler. Then Bill comes in and starts 804 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:12,160 getting work. The guy that actually came in 805 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:15,960 when it was more where it felt more game script related to me 806 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,160 was Mcnichols, where it seemed like, hey, Mcnichols is going to 807 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,360 come in and he's going to do the Eckler stuff. 808 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,320 Now he's going to take those Eckler snaps because we don't 809 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,080 need, we don't need Austin Eckler to, to have any more 810 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,320 miles on him in this game. This one's, you know, all all 811 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,240 done with the crying. So I I don't think the Bill 812 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:35,320 stuff was too game script related. 813 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,760 So you OK, so I I didn't watch too much of the game. 814 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,240 I do know that from for pretty much like it felt like 2 1/2 815 00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,360 quarters at least. The Giants are just absolutely 816 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,400 dead. Like, yes, but that was when 817 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,840 that was when you saw basically no more Eckler and that's when 818 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,600 you got the Jerry Mcnichols carries where Bill started 819 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,160 working in before that. But it was a heavy dose of 820 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,680 Eckler to start the game. Yeah, Yeah, it seems like, hey, 821 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,040 this is a trusted guy. We're. 822 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,520 Gonna probably would have gotten still carries. 823 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:13,560 He may not have had such a wide lead on the carries is I I guess 824 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,120 is what I'm saying, if they if they weren't ahead. 825 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,040 So for so much of the game or or. 826 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,640 Eckler could have gotten more if it's if it's a tight game and 827 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,760 they, you know, feel like they need to have Heckler on the 828 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,840 field more. They might have, but I didn't 829 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,440 get the really the my like take away from it was there's one guy 830 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,640 that we trust the most to not make any mistakes, and that's 831 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,400 Austin Eckler. And and other than that, I don't 832 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,880 really think it's anything about like this is the best running 833 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,840 back or the most talented guy. It more was just like, hey. 834 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,160 We're. Right. 835 00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,960 The game's still close. Let's just not make any 836 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,480 mistakes. Austin Eckler can get out here 837 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,400 and do the things that we need. And then as soon as they felt 838 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,120 like they had a little bit of breathing room, it was like, all 839 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,320 right, well, we can game was still within reach. 840 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,400 But Bill is is getting the work now. 841 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,360 And then as soon as it starts to get like, hey, it's, it's out of 842 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,200 hand. Giants are not in this one 843 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,680 anymore. That's where you get the 844 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,000 Mcnichols and Eckler gets to to rest it out for for the rest, 845 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,440 right? And and then I guess the other 846 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,360 point is that in in the in the go forward, Bill looked good 847 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,280 enough that he probably has increased trust going forward 848 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,680 that maybe he's not just a pure change of pace guy. 849 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:35,600 Maybe he has gotten more kind of trusted work going forward. 100. 850 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,280 Percent in the rushing sense. I would assume that as the 851 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,160 season plays out, he will get the majority of the snaps. 852 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,040 He'll he'll take over more snaps from Eckler where there's 853 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,760 probably never a true majority in this backfield because I, I 854 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,360 do think they actually. Like, yeah, you're saying? 855 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,680 Yeah. He gets the plurality. 856 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:57,040 Yeah. Yeah, I do think they like 857 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,120 Mcnichols a good amount. Yeah, yeah, they do. 858 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,880 They do they. I mean, they made him active and 859 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,800 played them. And then the last, the last back 860 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,680 we wanted to touch on, which was the Jaguars backfield, which 861 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,200 traded no good. Thanks Bigsby because he sucks 862 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,480 and to promote it appears at promote facial Tooting and to 863 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,120 being their their main change of pace back behind Travis ETN. 864 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,400 Yeah, the the stuff here, there's a lot to parse on the 865 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,600 Jags backfield #1 is you get ETN looking really good. 866 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,840 And if you've, if you've watched that chasing for a couple years 867 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,600 now, you'll probably remember back, I want to say it was two 868 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,760 years ago, you and I had a, a whole segment. 869 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,760 It might have been like week three-week 4. 870 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,520 And we're talking about where would you draft Travis Etienne 871 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,560 at? This Oh yeah, we were talking 872 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,160 about legendary season. Yeah, we're talking like, do you 873 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,240 take him at the the 1-2 or is he more like a 2-3 turn guy? 874 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,520 But like, that's that is, you know, the context with which 875 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,560 we've looked at Travis Etienne before. 876 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,600 I think for him, he's just the kind of back that does not wear 877 00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:13,800 the work well. He doesn't wear the injuries 878 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,080 well as the season goes on and and you know, there's this 879 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,880 attrition he's got to hold up under the workload. 880 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,400 That's just something where as we've seen it in his career, he 881 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,200 kind of wanes in his efficiency as as time goes on. 882 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,040 And so there's definitely there are lots of seasons where this 883 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,720 guy just runs good and stays healthy and doesn't get dinged 884 00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:35,640 up. But like, getting dinged up is 885 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,120 kind of inevitable at the running back position. 886 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,000 Maybe he wears it better this year, but I would say history 887 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,880 has told us that he probably won't. 888 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,320 And that's kind of what opens the door in my mind for Tootin 889 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:48,880 so. I. 890 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,440 It wouldn't surprise me if Tootin comes on slower than all 891 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,520 the all the Tootin slappies want because ETN is looking good. 892 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,520 He's looking like the ETN that we think is really good. 893 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,440 And so he just might be good enough to keep Tootin in more of 894 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,560 a, a complimentary role for a while. 895 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,440 And then also you get Laquint Allen and I, I don't have this 896 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,240 pulled up in front of you, but I was looking at the PFF pass 897 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:17,720 blocking grades for the backs and they have the quint Allen 898 00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:19,680 Gray is a pretty good pass blocker. 899 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,560 Like he and, and that's what the Jags were using him for. 900 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,040 They were using him as you know, that that third down back, he's 901 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,600 out there, you know, running routes and, and pass blocking. 902 00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:34,080 That's bad for, I mean, if ETN maintains the role that he has, 903 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,080 it's like whatever you'd love to have the, the extra pass 904 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,760 catching stuff for him, but like it's OK. 905 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,480 But I think it's particularly bad for Tooten. 906 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,920 You really hope that Tooten can kind of rest that away from 907 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,320 Laquint Allen. But it does seem like Tootin 908 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,040 might be a little bit less of a polished player than people 909 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,560 want, just with the fact that it does seem like they're trying to 910 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,240 progress with him a little slower. 911 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,760 He does have the fumbling issues you know you end up with. 912 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,560 Yeah, Laquint Allen has to lock on the on the turn down like 913 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:14,920 long passing distance and stuff. He he does for sure. 914 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:21,440 And then I guess what, what you, what you hope for with Tooten is 915 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,560 that he kind of consolidated what tank base we had. 916 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,000 So like tanks, we had five rush attempts, Tooten had three. 917 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,120 So you get 8 and Travis Etienne had 16. 918 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:39,240 So like maybe he's kind of like a true like change of pace back 919 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,200 and if he can look really, really good at that, maybe he 920 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,360 does like as the season progresses on, he does kind of 921 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,400 and and take more of it. But I, I agree with what you're 922 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:57,120 saying where we've had it, we some of the news here is that 923 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,200 they do actually want to use Tooten. 924 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,040 Like I remember Adam Schefter said on the podcast late in the 925 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,880 offseason, Hey, everybody, you should draft a Basil Tooten. 926 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,640 He's going to get a lot of looks this year. 927 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,080 And I'm like, well, if Adam Chapter said it, I'm actually, 928 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,760 I'm going to buy that. We all like them anyway. 929 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,680 I'm going to do that. And and then you get that, the 930 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,760 Bixby news, which is hugely positive, but part of the news 931 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,000 we've had this weekend is that Travis, Ethan looks like a dog. 932 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:36,920 And and I guess like you're saying, part of the story for 933 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,560 Tootin depends on how well does Ethan hold up for injury. 934 00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:44,160 And he's he is kind of getting being older back. 935 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,440 How long does he maintain that efficiency? 936 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,280 And if he does, it's going to be extremely difficult for Tooting 937 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,840 to make inroads there. But I, I, I do, I do think it's 938 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,600 pretty positive that that the team has like kind of gone out 939 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,160 of their way to open up the path for him. 940 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,480 Yeah, they they very clearly like him a lot. 941 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,480 I mean, when you you follow the bread crumbs all the way back to 942 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,520 before the draft, when is it is Gladstone the GM? 943 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,800 Is that the name? I'm I'm blanking right now. 944 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,280 But when he's or excuse me, but when he's interviewing for the 945 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:24,160 job, he specifically cites Tootin as this is the type of 946 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,280 player that we can draft in the fourth round that would add a 947 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,080 lot of big play potential to this offense. 948 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,720 So that's that's a thing that we think that, you know, we need to 949 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,000 go and get and then they they followed up and do exactly what 950 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,840 they said. Like, hey, we like this player. 951 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,760 We think he fills a need for us on the offense. 952 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,000 It's important. Here's here's how we would 953 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,280 execute that strategy. Then they go and do it right. 954 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,520 So that's like, OK, they're following up with what they 955 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,040 said. Then you get them trading 956 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,280 Bigsby, which is additional signal where they're like, yeah, 957 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,880 get this guy out of the way. We we want to play the guy that 958 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,800 we like. And so then they go ahead and 959 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,880 and clear the lane for Tooting there. 960 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,640 So you have the you know, it's advantageous that the team likes 961 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,800 him so much. Honestly, like you probably 962 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,280 really need that to help overcome the fumbling red flags 963 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,200 where it's like you, you definitely want the coaching 964 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,840 staff to like this guy so that one fumble doesn't just like put 965 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,240 him in the doghouse or send him to the shadow realm forever. 966 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,080 So you do have like that little bit of extra boost to him like 967 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,320 he'll he'll get the opportunity is what I'm saying. 968 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,520 But you do have the the path is a little. 969 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,600 You're just expressing concern that hey, another rookie has a 970 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,200 lock on the on the long down distance stuff. 971 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,880 The guy in front of him actually looks good. 972 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,280 And by the way, he fumbles too. Yeah, it's just a slightly 973 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,600 narrower path than you'd hope than we thought during the 974 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,760 offseason where we thought Travis ETM is not gonna be an 975 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,200 impediment whatsoever and we were paying no line to Lequint 976 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,680 Allen, right. So that's for me like the 977 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,800 ceiling for Tootin still remains the same. 978 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,280 It's extremely high. It's just what we were 979 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,400 previously thinking, you know, happens 30% of the time, might 980 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,560 actually happen 20% of the time and, and that's meaningful. 981 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,640 But like I, I still think he's a very exciting player. 982 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,520 He's definitely a hold. He's not someone you're going 983 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,600 out and churning or or anything like that. 984 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,360 Oh, and Neil, then he missed that. 985 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,680 Neil just joined their listener. He missed that. 986 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,840 He missed you at you you describing your viewing 987 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,720 experience of his podcast. Oh yeah, yeah, I did. 988 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,520 I did shout you out Neil when you infamously pass on Bruce 989 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,720 Hall on the 5th. Also some comments about how 990 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,960 painful it was to watch the Vikings first half last night, 991 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,360 but thankfully they pulled it out for you backup running 992 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,560 backs. I think we we pretty much 993 00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,880 touched on everyone that we really wanted to talk about 994 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,080 here. Yeah, yeah. 995 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,480 Let's see. Let's see some for discussing 996 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,200 that Week 2. Yeah. 997 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,400 So next we have the tight end utilization and efficiency 998 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,880 chart, which is essentially the main part of the chart is, is 999 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:21,160 what percentage of of routes are you running on team drop backs, 1000 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,280 which is. And then we do look at kind of 1001 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,160 who's pass blocking because like the reason I like to add that in 1002 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,320 is because like if you didn't have that context, you would 1003 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,120 think that they weren't on the field. 1004 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,360 Like we actually, we don't care if you're on the field for the 1005 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,440 pass blocking, but it's nice to see that even if you're not full 1006 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,040 time on routes, at least the team wants you out there. 1007 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:49,360 And then we also look at targets for a run. 1008 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,400 Obviously we want guys who are out there and then also getting 1009 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,720 targeted and then a dot. I think this is the last 1010 01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,320 meaningful in week 1 and but we do want that the targets down 1011 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:06,520 the field also. Yeah, I guess this this, this is 1012 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,640 this is the the Harold Fannon part of the show where? 1013 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,800 Yeah, I mean, we gotta, we gotta start with Fannon. 1014 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,960 One, one thing I have to bring up 'cause we're gonna talk about 1015 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,880 all the all the other stuff, I'm sure. 1016 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,280 But Harold Fannon, you see him with a very little bit of pass 1017 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,280 blocking. There was, I believe it was a a 1018 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,640 run. Yeah, it was a run play where 1019 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:33,280 he's tasked with run blocking and he is out there against Trey 1020 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,600 Hendrickson, one of the best defensive ends in the league. 1021 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,240 And Harold Fannon has a run block win against Trey 1022 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,360 Hendrickson. Rookie Harold Fannon, you know, 1023 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,960 he's only a receiver. He's not not even really a tight 1024 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,840 end. He can't block or do anything 1025 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,480 except he blocks Trey fucking Hendrickson successfully. 1026 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,480 So I mean, it is. It's wheels all the way up for 1027 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:57,880 Harold Fannon. He can. 1028 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,000 Oh, he's he's not Brock Bowers. I won't. 1029 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,920 I won't disrespect Brock Bowers like that, but God, is he close, 1030 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,200 You know, like he he does so much. 1031 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,680 I mean, the man's taken Wildcat snaps in his first game ever as 1032 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,120 a rookie. He's lining up in the backfield 1033 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,400 like he's running routes, he's playing in line, he's playing in 1034 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,040 the slot, I mean. He is. 1035 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,760 He had 18 run blocking snaps in week 1. 1036 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,840 Yeah, he he is a weapon. Harold Fannon is just a weapon. 1037 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,360 And I'm just gonna say it. Harold Fannon is the best player 1038 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,000 on the Browns offense right now. You know, full stop. 1039 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,560 It's not close. And and the gap will widen over 1040 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,280 the course of this season. It would not shock me if Harold 1041 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,080 Fannon leads the Browns in targets by the end of the year, 1042 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,640 which is kind of a crazy thing to say. 1043 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:54,360 I think that happens 20% of the time, which is pretty insane for 1044 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:59,120 a rookie third round tight end to potentially lead the team in 1045 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,600 targets. When there's another tight end 1046 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,440 that David and Joku is like a very legitimate tight end. 1047 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,880 That's competition for him there. 1048 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,760 You know, Jerry, Judy, you know, earns targets like there, there 1049 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,120 are other people here to take targets away from this guy and 1050 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,600 he's still out here with 29% targets per route run. 1051 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,560 Yeah. Right on a on a pretty 1052 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,200 meaningful at route count as well. 1053 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,880 Yeah, yeah, the brown, I mean, you saw the Flacco drop backs, 1054 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,280 right? Like Flacco is one of the 1055 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,440 highest drop backs in the league in Week 1. 1056 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,400 And we think that's going to be a trend for the Browns. 1057 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,760 Like we expect them to drop back and pass a lot. 1058 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,760 That's that's kind of yeah. I was thinking about it too. 1059 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,720 I know Sean Siegel had this comment where they're probably 1060 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,800 going to play like that. Even when and if the roofies 1061 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,080 come in, they probably will still have a high drop back 1062 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,920 count. And then like I, I know that the 1063 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,720 rookies probably won't be great efficiency wise, but I feel like 1064 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,560 they can keep pace with four or five yards adjusted yards per 1065 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,400 attempt. Just on your point of like this 1066 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,880 is the this is what the the Browns are going to look like. 1067 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,720 Yeah, I'm, I'm a little worried about the rookies. 1068 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,440 I mean, I'm more I mean, gosh, there's a stretch during the 1069 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,880 offseason where I started to get a little hope for Shadur, but 1070 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:24,200 that after the like one decent preseason game, But that that 1071 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,720 kind of crater when you are getting your chance as like the 1072 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,280 third quarterback on the depth chart in a preseason game and 1073 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,680 then you get benched in the at the end of the game. 1074 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,440 It is the fourth quarter with like barely any time left in a 1075 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,440 meaningless preseason game. And the coaching staff is like 1076 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,920 get the fuck off my field. Like we do not want you 1077 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,680 anywhere. I mean short of just outright 1078 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,560 cutting him during the game. Like that is the most bearish 1079 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,040 thing you could really possibly see. 1080 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,920 I thought they wanted to get some reps for Snoop for. 1081 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,560 Snoop Huntley Yeah, Yeah, You got to see what you have in 1082 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,600 Snoop Huntley. Oh, I. 1083 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,320 Thought they were like trying to do them a favor. 1084 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,440 I was like, thanks for coming in and covering for us. 1085 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,320 Let's let's get you some tape, buddy. 1086 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,840 That that was my maybe. Maybe that was too roasted. 1087 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,160 That's that's the most charitable interpretation you 1088 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,720 can make. But but maybe you're right. 1089 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,240 Maybe you're they're, they're just good guys at heart and 1090 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,760 they. They really want to the Browns, 1091 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,720 they they just really take care of people. 1092 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,600 But. Yeah, the only thing I wanted to 1093 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:29,120 note on them you were talking about like Fannons alignment. 1094 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:34,760 So I was 55 offensive snaps, 29 of them came in line, 16 of the 1095 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:39,160 slot, 6 out wide. So like truly all over the field 1096 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,960 tree in the back one at quarterback with for the wild 1097 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:51,080 card Wildcat snap. Like we had one of the major 1098 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,600 concerns I had at least on Fannin on this year, not too big 1099 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,400 of a concern was just like maybe he couldn't be like a true tight 1100 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,920 end like that. That concern has evaporated. 1101 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,200 Yeah, I mean, the, the only reason we weren't higher on this 1102 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,080 guy is because we said, I mean, it might take a while. 1103 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,280 You know, it's hard, hardest position, you know, to learn for 1104 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,440 a guy. He he might just be, you know, 1105 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,440 true receiver only where they're only having him come in a little 1106 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:25,000 bit really limited snaps. And I mean God, if if we had 1107 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,320 known, if you could have shown me the Harold fan and stat line, 1108 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,640 I I would from week 1 back in May. 1109 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,000 If you have 100% stats, yeah, yeah. 1110 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,720 Yeah, it's it's truly. This is in the 12th round. 1111 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,960 Yeah, this is a like generational with where you were 1112 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,920 getting him. I mean, not not to over 1113 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,920 exaggerate, like Harold Fannon is going to be the closest thing 1114 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,760 to a Puka Takua that we'll have this season. 1115 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:57,200 You know, like for how much he benefits you from his draft 1116 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:02,840 costs, like he could very easily be the largest win, you know, 1117 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,080 cost adjusted. So pretty, pretty exciting stuff 1118 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,600 from him. Huge. 1119 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:13,000 I mean, if he's somehow on your waivers in FFPC, like in a main 1120 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,920 event or a big gorilla, what are you? 1121 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,520 What are you doing? How much are you bidding there? 1122 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,760 Oh you, you unload the clip. It's everything, right? 1123 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:28,480 You, well, you need that. No, you, you FFPC, you need 1124 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,200 that. You need. 1125 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,800 Like you saved 2020 bucks to do their? 1126 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,280 Defense, but yeah, defenses. And stuff, but. 1127 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,600 Yeah, it's you. You unload the clip because I 1128 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:42,120 was about to say, I think if if I was doing like week 12 1129 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,920 projections now, I'd project like pretty close to 100% snap 1130 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:51,680 rate for for famine. Yeah, some of the, there's so 1131 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,920 much stuff where I feel like this year we did a lot less 1132 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,400 leaking of the alpha that we had when we were, you know, in the 1133 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,480 rankings chat. We we all, I feel like do a 1134 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,600 really good job, you know, being news hounds and consuming lots 1135 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,200 of stuff during the offseason. And, and I think the synthesis, 1136 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,400 like actually synthesizing the information correctly is a thing 1137 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,120 that a lot of people get wrong. Like, for example, there are 1138 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,120 people out there that completely failed to synthesize that. 1139 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,120 You know, the trading of Brian Robinson was directly connected 1140 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,600 to the new rookie bill and not at all related to Chris 1141 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,439 Rodriguez, who had been cut multiple times last season and, 1142 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,560 and was, you know, a a multi year vet at this point. 1143 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,520 Like, so people do a poor job synthesizing information. 1144 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,680 One of the ones, the pieces that got me, I mean, we were bullish 1145 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,120 on Fannin the whole way, but the thing that really like made me 1146 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,920 all systems go where I was, I just started taking him in like 1147 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,040 the 15th, 16th round in my drafts was like, I don't care. 1148 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,160 I'm going to take whatever of these other three players to 1149 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,479 close out my draft anyway. The one I can't be without is 1150 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,520 Harold Fannin, and the piece of information that kind of flipped 1151 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,640 that switch for me was the Browns beat reporter from The 1152 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,479 Athletic is talking on a podcast and he accidentally misspeaks 1153 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,279 when he's talking about Harold Fannon and David and Joku and he 1154 01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:19,600 says Harold Fannon is going to be the reason David and Joku 1155 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,040 isn't on this team three months from now. 1156 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,800 He says this in the July beginning of August, implying 1157 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,840 that it is known that David and Joku is getting moved before the 1158 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,479 deadline. Then he catches himself and says 1159 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:38,880 or eight months from now, now, and that right there where, hey, 1160 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,279 we're getting signal where a guy with information from the 1161 01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:46,200 organization is telling you like, yeah, they they already 1162 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,800 have plans to get David and Joku out of the way because Harold 1163 01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,920 Fannon is the truth. And and then you get him sitting 1164 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,960 with the starters and resting in the preseason. 1165 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,960 And then when he is playing in the preseason, he's heavily 1166 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,720 targeted and catching touchdowns like it it all. 1167 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,440 The drum beat was deafening and every shred of evidence we got 1168 01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:11,000 along the way was just more and more bullish and it's just 1169 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,160 really fun to get to watch it all come to fruition with Harold 1170 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,960 Fannon very possibly a season defining player. 1171 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,400 So what you're saying is the best college Titan of all time 1172 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,840 might be good? That's dude, that's the other 1173 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,960 thing. Like sometimes the guys that are 1174 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,520 really good at football just stay really good at football. 1175 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,320 And and I mean, there's nuance to it, obviously. 1176 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,480 Like if you you know, for example, you look at Trey Harris 1177 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:37,280 where it's like, Oh my gosh, the Trey Harris yards for route run 1178 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,720 were crazy. And it's like, yeah, but like. 1179 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,120 He played. He was older. 1180 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,720 He played with Jackson Dyard and Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss. 1181 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,640 Yeah, I mean, how many, how many times have we seen the Ole Miss 1182 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,680 scam happen for, you know, like it's a thing. 1183 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,400 But anyway. The Lane Kiffin, the Lane Kiffin 1184 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,400 just like, creates these guys. Yeah, All right, let's let's 1185 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,840 move on from Harold Fanning because I I can talk about him 1186 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,080 all. Yeah, on our late round tight 1187 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,960 end smash, Juwan Johnson, like we're talking about New Orleans 1188 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,560 Saints been fun bad, lots of drop backs. 1189 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:20,120 So them having close to 50 drop backs and then Juwan Johnson 1190 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:25,040 being #2 in the chart in percentage of tight end routes 1191 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:30,320 and then an 8.2, A .22% target per run, like that's in. 1192 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:35,920 That's nuts. It's like, that's like, I, I 1193 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,360 don't know, it's just nuts. Yeah, I know it's a it's a big 1194 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,560 departure from how he was used in the past. 1195 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,160 I mean, if we go up and and if we go pull up, you know, our 1196 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,240 charts from last year for Jalon Johnson, like it's a major, 1197 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,600 major difference. And I guess this one's on. 1198 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,320 I feel like I have egg on my face with this one because the 1199 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,680 whole offseason, even after we we got some information that, 1200 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,800 you know, sounded like they wanted to change how they 1201 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,480 utilized him. I just didn't really buy it 1202 01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:06,160 because I I felt like we had kind of seen it all before. 1203 01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:10,200 But yeah, they're just they're using him like he archetypes, 1204 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,280 which is he is a receiver. He's not really a tight end. 1205 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,280 And that's what he was coming into Lee's converted receiver, 1206 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,880 right? And so now you get a coaching 1207 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,800 staff that's actually going to use him this way and it seems 1208 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,960 pretty good for him. I there's like some small shred 1209 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,920 of me that's like I want to, I want to see it one more week 1210 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,080 before I'm like, OK, Yep, I was super duper all the way wrong. 1211 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,920 Right now I'm like pretty confident I was wrong on it. 1212 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,240 And I'm it's not one where I'm like going to avoid playing 1213 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,560 Jawan Johnson if it's a good spot to play him. 1214 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,040 I'm like, no, I need to see more. 1215 01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:46,640 But it's just one where I'm like, OK, maybe maybe he just 1216 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,280 got like a bunch of targets this week and and he'll run more 1217 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,480 routes but won't get as many targets in the future. 1218 01:12:51,480 --> 01:12:55,600 But I feel pretty confident saying this one was a a big miss 1219 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,040 by me because I was saying the guy that I've been on. 1220 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,720 For snaps, yeah, so like it wasn't just passing game stuff. 1221 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:09,600 They were also using him a bunch and and and they were on game. 1222 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:16,760 I'm I'm I'm pulling up the exact number now and but they let me 1223 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:17,480 see. Sorry. 1224 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:23,840 He he had 22 run blocking snaps. Wow, Do you have his? 1225 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,280 Do you have how he his alignment numbers follow? 1226 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,880 Yeah, yeah. So he played 74 snaps total, 1227 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,640 which is that's this huge count and 28 of them were in line. 1228 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,640 So he played a bunch. Slot, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1229 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,880 He had a snap on the O line. Then yeah, he's he's just he's 1230 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,080 just their slot receiver effectively, you know, slot 1231 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,960 receiver. And then also we'll get some in 1232 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,760 line stuff, but he's just he's going to be on the field all the 1233 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,520 time. He is, you know, you know, you 1234 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,680 get those slot only receivers where you're like, oh, well, 1235 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:54,880 they're not going to play all the snaps. 1236 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,000 It's like, yeah, Jawan Johnson is like the slot only receiver. 1237 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,160 And then when you'd normally take him off the field, they 1238 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,680 just bump him to. Yeah, you're right. 1239 01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,200 You're right. That's exactly right. 1240 01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,960 So he he looks like an awesome late round tight end dart man. 1241 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,400 Never wrong, just absolutely Johnson. 1242 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,800 He's absolutely kind of like a main event and and priority in, 1243 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:22,000 in, in, in the waivers, right? Yeah, he's one where I had 1244 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,720 someone ask me about this, where they have good tight ends 1245 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,280 already. Like I think they had they had 1246 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,400 Dallas Goddard and someone else that's like serviceable. 1247 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,600 Where where it's like, OK, like am I going to start Jawan 1248 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,800 Johnson over Dallas Goddard? Like is it close? 1249 01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:41,480 And, and I just told him Jawan Johnson is like, you have to 1250 01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:45,160 price enforce there. You can't let some other team go 1251 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:51,320 get Jawan Johnson for cheap. Like you, you need to, you just 1252 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,720 need to go out and and put in a bid that you think is what he's 1253 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,120 worth. And if you don't get them and 1254 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,160 you and you already have functional tight ends, that's 1255 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,240 OK. Like you're just trying to stop 1256 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,560 someone from getting a steal that makes some other team much 1257 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,480 stronger in your league. You don't want to have to face 1258 01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:10,320 that later when you could be just, you know, blocking those 1259 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,680 points from getting onto someone else's roster, so. 1260 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:20,760 Yeah, I agreed, Agreed 100%. We had somebody here ask you 1261 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,000 about Valet. I'm just pulling up that. 1262 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,840 So they're in the NFC South, right? 1263 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:34,160 Yes, they are. And so Valet he got, he got 9 1264 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:43,160 routes, Lava 43, Joan Johnson 47, Shaheed 46, Brandon Cooks 1265 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,480 got 42. So just to just to synthesize 1266 01:15:47,480 --> 01:15:55,160 this, yes, Valet could play more and but he'd be cutting into 1267 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,120 Brandon Cooks. Yeah, probably, probably comes 1268 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,400 out of Brandon Cooks pie, not not Joan Johnson. 1269 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:07,080 Yeah, like they they they didn't fight another tight end or no, 1270 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:11,520 that wait, that's not that's not true that this report only pulls 1271 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,800 in this report that I'm looking at only pulls in people who've 1272 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,400 gotten and not another tight end got a reception. 1273 01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,840 OK, is that is what I should say. 1274 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:27,560 Let me be more accurate here. They played two other tight end. 1275 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:32,600 So Jack Stahl got 18 snaps. Malachi Metabo got 1 snap. 1276 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,720 So like, yes, they I'm I'm I'm a 75 play count. 1277 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,760 He's out there for 74 of them. And then the other guy is like 1278 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:48,960 got like what, 3030% snaps like just every down player for the 1279 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,320 Saints, which for a receiving archetype is huge. 1280 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,200 Yeah, big, big bummer. That's one where I'm going to, 1281 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,600 I'm going to regret not drafting more of him. 1282 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,000 He was one of my highest owned players last year and I had a 1283 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:07,240 ton of them the year before as well and unfortunately did not 1284 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,920 get on the train this year. But kudos to the Jolan Johnson 1285 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,880 drafters. Definitely, definitely one of 1286 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,920 those where paying attention to what the team said and and how 1287 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,200 they're going to deploy him. Ended up bearing some fruit 1288 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,120 there a couple guys that did not bear fruit. 1289 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,400 In fact, the fruit is rotting on the vine. 1290 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,160 Travis Kelsey and Mark Andrews. It's Jover. 1291 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,320 Those aren't, they're not like fantasy tight ends anymore. 1292 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,160 Those are names. They're they're, remember that 1293 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:39,800 guys now, I mean. The one that the one that seems 1294 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:45,640 most egregious to me is is Travis Kelsey where they had the 1295 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:51,240 big Xavier wordy injury like the Chiefs. 1296 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,960 They dropped back a bunch of times. 1297 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,720 Like I think I I forget how many times they dropped back, but it 1298 01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,640 was a lot. Yeah, they were second highest 1299 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,440 PROE this week. So they were. 1300 01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:11,400 They were slinging it. And and so they had damn it, I'm 1301 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,880 not, I'm not they they they, they were slinging it. 1302 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,840 And he's still like not really getting there. 1303 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:22,400 Like I'm glad that he was still playing good snaps, but yeah, 1304 01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,840 yeah, Joe, Joe over. I, I, I could leave a little bit 1305 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,720 of a light on. No, no, I could leave a little 1306 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,400 bit of a light on for Mark Andrews. 1307 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,720 That like their drop back count. I agree. 1308 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:40,800 So Low and Zay Flowers is dominated so much and maybe 1309 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:48,680 there's something there for him and but it it it very, very 1310 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,280 disappointing overall for America. 1311 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:54,160 Andrews especially like to me, it's like it's the sequential 1312 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,040 stuff as well. We're like last year was a 1313 01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:03,960 disappointing year, then week 1 and another disappointing year 1314 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,160 or week and they don't play likely. 1315 01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:14,160 He's still only 80% on pass rate and and then 6% target spread 1316 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:18,040 run for a dot, which is super low for America Andrews. 1317 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:28,000 I think Travis Kelsey is being sent to the to the horse factory 1318 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,720 and America Andrews is on the watch list for that. 1319 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,920 Yeah, yeah, very, very well put, man. 1320 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,440 A guy who could not be farther from being sent to the glue 1321 01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:44,000 factory. Tyler Warren, you know, rookie, 1322 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,320 rookie tight end. So a lot of lot of life left in 1323 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,360 and before the glue factory calls for him. 1324 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:57,280 But man, he he really, really seems like very high first read 1325 01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,200 target. Definitely someone that they are 1326 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,360 going to be getting the ball to early and often. 1327 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,640 Seems like he is. He's gonna be set up for a very 1328 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,080 strong season. I expect the targets for route 1329 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,840 run to come down just a little. It's not gonna stay at 38%. 1330 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,720 But I mean, his first read rate was really high. 1331 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:23,320 It it definitely seems like he is going to hurt Downs and 1332 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,320 Pitman going forward now. Downs and Pitman were so 1333 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,360 severely discounted. I don't really think you're 1334 01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,520 terribly concerned with the price you got them at. 1335 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,280 And then the Warren price got to be so high near the end of the 1336 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:41,840 season that it was like, I mean, you know, you're happy if you 1337 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,680 drafted him. You're not like, this isn't 1338 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,480 paying off the price. You know, you're very happy 1339 01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:48,120 about it. But for me, the the bet was just 1340 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,640 a little too expensive when you're considering the range of 1341 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,760 outcomes like this outcome of Tyler Warren is good. 1342 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,720 The Colts make him the focal point. 1343 01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:00,840 Like, that's far from assured. You know, it's not a thing that 1344 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,360 you're like, oh, I'm drafting him here in the 70s because it's 1345 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:05,760 guaranteed that this is happening. 1346 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,840 It's like, no, there's definitely other stuff that can 1347 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,360 happen. But yeah, it's it's definitely 1348 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:14,080 one where if you ended up fading Tyler Warren like I did, you're 1349 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,520 you're kind of the Squidward staring out the window at 1350 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,280 SpongeBob and Patrick having all the fun meme, you know, would 1351 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,600 love to have more Tyler Warren. I did get a decent bit of him 1352 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,000 when he was going really cheap. He like kind of fell during a 1353 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,040 middle part of the summer. I got some in like the one 20s 1354 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,400 and stuff. And so that's where I'll get to 1355 01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,880 to enjoy the Tyler Warren show from. 1356 01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,000 Got him on some high stakes teams there. 1357 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,240 But yeah, he's definitely a player I'm underway to and he 1358 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,680 seems like he's going to be 1 where he's going to pretty 1359 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:46,160 handily pay off his tag. I'm just not so confident that 1360 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,800 the process was was wrong given the cost. 1361 01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:56,640 So I think I think him being a focal point was kind of expected 1362 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:02,720 and but him being a focal point and then the offense being so 1363 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:07,760 functional is like as it was like, I think they they never 1364 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,560 pointed. They scored in every draft 1365 01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:14,240 against the Dolphins. And that's the part where it's 1366 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,920 like in terms of like the outcome on the fantasy points, 1367 01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,160 like I'd like to see them do it against somebody order down the 1368 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:27,280 Miami Dolphins and before I crown Tyler Warren and but 1369 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,160 obviously great to see him be a focal point. 1370 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,080 Great to see that work out for the the Colts and. 1371 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,640 I, I I. Ended up overweight and but not 1372 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:44,400 wasn't drafting me at the end FFBC it was like you had to 1373 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,160 draft them over like Travis Hunter and like I'm going to 1374 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,200 drop Travis Hunter over Tyler Warren even in Titan premium 1375 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:52,600 and. Yeah. 1376 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,960 But and then the other one, I think, I don't think this will 1377 01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,480 be that much of a surprise to anybody on the OR listening to 1378 01:23:01,480 --> 01:23:05,200 this podcast. Whereas people were kind of like 1379 01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,520 they were shouting from the mountain tops. 1380 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:13,640 Brock Bowers is only getting 50% snap rate in the first three 1381 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,840 drives. And then in the Fort, I don't 1382 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,000 know if it was exactly the Fort, but in the subsequent drives, 1383 01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:26,840 they like definitely went back to featuring him And then even 1384 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:31,320 even on a kind of like and then obviously his his snap count 1385 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,320 here comes out lower because he also he got the injury. 1386 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,720 So he came out of the game, but even on the on the low snap 1387 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,160 count, they were targeting him so heavily when he was out 1388 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:47,440 there, he got over 100 yards. And so I think, I think you're 1389 01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:51,640 still like, I think the Brock Barrett's faders got off very 1390 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:57,640 lightly with the injury and last weekend and it's still all the 1391 01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:02,120 way wheels up for Brock Bears. Yeah, you know, he gets 8 1392 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:07,000 targets in a game where he misses a decent chunk of the 1393 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:11,600 game, comes out due to injury near the end and then early, you 1394 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:16,960 know, the involvement was a little less pulling up his his 1395 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,400 snaps here. Yeah, only ends up playing 32 1396 01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:24,920 snaps total, 10/10 in the slot, 8 out wide, by the way. 1397 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:31,200 So if there's room for Bowers to play more, it's that I think 1398 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,520 really what it is. And I, I want to look into the 1399 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:38,120 splits on this, but they just might not be having and it's 1400 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,520 when it's a play where they want him to be lined up out wide or 1401 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,480 in the slot. They're just not going to have 1402 01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:46,640 him out there on a run play 'cause they're like, yeah, I 1403 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:47,720 just saved this guy. We don't. 1404 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:48,960 We don't need you getting banged. 1405 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,040 Up weird is they they didn't have them. 1406 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,120 They they had a bunch of plays early where they weren't playing 1407 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,320 him. It was like the first two drives 1408 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,520 and then after those first couple of drives they were like, 1409 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:06,720 yes, back to 8090% snapshare and Brock barriers. 1410 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:11,840 So I like I, I, I don't even know I'm not even ready to 1411 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,880 concede that his snapshare is going to be low. 1412 01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,720 I think it's super bullish that even wit a low snapshare he 1413 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,760 crushes. But I think I, I think you could 1414 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,760 very easily see next week he's like at the top of his chair. 1415 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,640 Yeah, it it would not surprise me at all. 1416 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,680 It it also, it very much could be one of those things where I 1417 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,600 mean, this this was actually how his rookie season started as 1418 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,080 well, where he's getting fewer snaps. 1419 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,000 And then it did not take very long for the coaching staff to 1420 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,600 realize, yeah, we can't, we can't do that anymore. 1421 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,240 This guy needs to be on the field more. 1422 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:50,840 And this is a new coaching staff. 1423 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,840 It wouldn't surprise me at all if after some, you know, self 1424 01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,360 scouting, they realize, OK, yeah, we just need the best 1425 01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,920 tight end in the game out on the field more. 1426 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,280 So I wouldn't be surprised to see him move up in this chart. 1427 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:11,200 Meanwhile, the targets per route run of 31% with a 10.4 A dot is 1428 01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,840 pretty incredible. He had two targets greater than 1429 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,520 20 yards down the field. I don't know if you saw both of 1430 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:24,160 them, but they're just like, dude, Gino is just yeah, like it 1431 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,040 was, it was beautiful to see, man. 1432 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,600 Brock Bowers, like he's a verifiable deep threat on this 1433 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,080 team. It's not like a oh, he's only a 1434 01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,440 run after the catch kind of guy. It's no, no, Brock Bowers is 1435 01:26:36,440 --> 01:26:39,880 dominant at all depths, right? Got it. 1436 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:45,720 He's he's very fun to watch. He's pretty, I mean, for how big 1437 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,240 he is too, like he's pretty graceful out there. 1438 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,600 Like watching him on those routes I mean. 1439 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,320 He's fast. Yeah. 1440 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,160 He ran like a four or five coming out of high school. 1441 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,240 Yeah, like he is. I think he has the fast like one 1442 01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:06,240 of the fastest ever mop per hour runs in college football 1443 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,480 history. Now granted they're not tracking 1444 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,880 it that long but still. Still like he is a fast man. 1445 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,520 Yeah, I, I definitely agree with your, your sentiment that the 1446 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,280 Bowers faders got bailed out a little bit here in week 1. 1447 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:24,560 I mean, shit, you get in, you know, not missing those snaps at 1448 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,200 the end of the game or, or he gets a touchdown or something 1449 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,480 like, right. All of a sudden this stat line 1450 01:27:29,480 --> 01:27:33,400 goes from like, wow, that was a good day to Oh my God, I, I'm 1451 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,160 I'm getting buried by Brock Bowers. 1452 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:39,360 But my advice, if you faded Brock Bowers and you're not 1453 01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,960 feeling totally buried yet, you still have a shred of optimism 1454 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,760 for your season that you're not going to end up buried by Brock 1455 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,840 Bowers. And I guess this only applies if 1456 01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,480 you also didn't draft Harold Fannon. 1457 01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:54,200 So if you faded Fannon and you faded Bowers, there's a. 1458 01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:57,240 What are you doing? Well, hang on, there's a trick. 1459 01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,600 There's a trick that can actually make this season work 1460 01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,200 for you in Best Ball. And that's going to sound crazy 1461 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,720 'cause you're like, Zach, what can I do about my Best Ball 1462 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,600 teams I've already drafted? Here's what you can do. 1463 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,760 You need to go and find the apps you've drafted on. 1464 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:13,160 You need to hold down the little thing on the phone where it 1465 01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,000 starts to make all the little apps shake and you can move them 1466 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,160 and you click the little delete button. 1467 01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:20,720 You delete those apps. You never fucking look at them 1468 01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,000 again because this season is going to age very poorly for 1469 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,320 you. And that's the trick. 1470 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,720 You just never look at it again. Next year when you go to play 1471 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,560 again, you look for that app on your phone. 1472 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,960 Never mind. I'm not going to put any more 1473 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,440 money into Best Fall. This money is going directly 1474 01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:38,800 into a money market account for my family, where it stays safe, 1475 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,080 where I will not lose it again by fading the greatest tight end 1476 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,640 to ever play the game. And don't worry about any 1477 01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,240 winnings here. Yeah, you you will not need to 1478 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:53,240 check back in week 17. Do not worry about that, OK? 1479 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:58,400 Only only one other actually 22 Quick notes on tight ends 1 is a 1480 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,480 guy that I need to capitulate on to you. 1481 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,000 You were correct. I was wrong. 1482 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,680 Evan Ingram definitely a rotational player. 1483 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,440 In Evan Ingram's defense, he does get hurt twice in the game. 1484 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,200 The second time he leaves the game for good, but he goes to 1485 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,000 the blue tent twice in the fourth quarter, he exits for 1486 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,560 good. He got a couple targets, but 1487 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,120 it's it's the classic Evan Ingram short, scammy shit. 1488 01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:26,120 And you were saying this all offseason where it's like he's 1489 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,920 going to be a rotational player. And I'm just so disinterested in 1490 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,720 rotational Evan Ingram. You were very right. 1491 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,200 He is he is rotational. It's it's pretty jover for him. 1492 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,560 I like the only light I could possibly leave on for him is 1493 01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,040 that, you know, they use him more over the course of the 1494 01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,560 season, but I do not think that's particularly likely. 1495 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,960 I think it's probably done for him. 1496 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,880 You know, good targets for route run, but it's only on, you know, 1497 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,560 40% of the route. So it's really and and again, 1498 01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:00,640 it's the classic Evan Ingram 3A dot where I just I don't think 1499 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,800 that that's going to be enough to get you there. 1500 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,160 So Evan Ingram probably dead and buried. 1501 01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:10,600 The other guy that I don't think is dead and buried, but is here 1502 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,240 on the chart with Evan Ingram and and also has pretty pretty 1503 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,160 bearish numbers for his week 1 is Colston Loveland. 1504 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:22,080 This is 1 where I think it requires a lot of nuance because 1505 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:26,160 you were pounding the table for Colson Loveland all offseason. 1506 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,920 The rest of us were just a little bit more bearish on him, 1507 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,960 not from like a, you know, over the full season ceiling, like 1508 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,760 what he could do, but more that we we were really confident he 1509 01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,360 was going to start slow. Just given the shoulder surgery 1510 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,720 and the, you know, shoot in June, we thought he wasn't going 1511 01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,040 to be ready for camp at all. And then, you know, he he gets 1512 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:53,240 ready for camp, he's back. It seems like a fast start is 1513 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,880 all of a sudden in the cards. And so I got it personally a lot 1514 01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,360 more optimistic on Colston level and there, but then he ends up 1515 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,760 with a slow start. Cole Comet gets the majority of 1516 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,560 the snaps. So it's it's something where I'm 1517 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,120 not panicking yet about Colston Loveland. 1518 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,520 I think that he definitely will earn more work as the season 1519 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,000 goes on. I think he's probably very good. 1520 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,440 But yeah, just a little disappointing that it's going to 1521 01:31:18,440 --> 01:31:20,040 be a slower start out of the gate. 1522 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,000 I I I'm disappointed too. And the one thing that makes me 1523 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,240 feel better. I remember you you had you had 1524 01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,680 made a note separately. Hey, if you have Loveland over 1525 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,680 Warren, this that this is not good for you. 1526 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:38,080 I my one note on Loveland is like, hey, the opportunity costs 1527 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,200 on Loveland was so much lower than tower warrant. 1528 01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,480 And so you can afford to be a little bit more patient on a 1529 01:31:45,480 --> 01:31:50,000 breakout, but obviously would have liked to see more routes, 1530 01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,800 more targets. And I've done more with the 1531 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:58,760 targets he did get. And and then the last guy I I, I 1532 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,840 made a note on here was Janu where he's still on a scam and 1533 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,280 PPR bullshit. So yeah, I. 1534 01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,440 I honestly think Janu is like kind of usable in Thailand 1535 01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:13,520 premium and if you're super like super desperate. 1536 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,400 Yeah, he's, he's definitely usable. 1537 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,320 I mean, the other thing is I think nothing else. 1538 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,000 I think he's got actually decently high touchdown equity 1539 01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,960 as well because Arthur Smith likes him so much and will 1540 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,000 dissolve enough around the goal line for him. 1541 01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,200 I'm I'm dead serious, you know, and so. 1542 01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:32,960 It's. You, you get that added benefit 1543 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:36,480 where it's like this guy, the profile just looking at this 1544 01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:40,160 where you're like, OK, he's only out there running routes on 50% 1545 01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,480 of drop backs with an 8 out of 0. 1546 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,960 Like you look at that and you're like, there is no shot that I'm 1547 01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,560 starting this guy. He just happens to have these 1548 01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,240 anomalies where the targets per route run are going to be crazy 1549 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,760 high because stuff is schemed directly for him. 1550 01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,920 And then the touchdown equity is crazy high because it's schemed 1551 01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,760 directly for him. So it's a very weird anomalous 1552 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,360 profile, but it's one where if you understand the context of 1553 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,120 it, it it makes sense for why it works. 1554 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:11,120 He's probably he'll be one of the really good late round tight 1555 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,240 end clicks in best ball just because like all you really need 1556 01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,120 is a touchdown from those guys to be good. 1557 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,800 And so yeah, Jonnu going to be an awesome best ball click in 1558 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,640 managed. It's going to be a harder start. 1559 01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,560 But like you said, in tight end premium where you're getting 1560 01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,960 these scam targets, the high targets per route run a low A 1561 01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:30,880 dot. So it's easy for him to, you 1562 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,360 know, be easy catches. It's going to be a thing where 1563 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,120 he he could be usable on a pinch. 1564 01:33:37,480 --> 01:33:41,880 Yeah, I agree. I'm I'm I'm just tonges the 1565 01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,400 49ers guy. I I, I don't really have 1566 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,680 anything to add order down like it seems like he's the direct 1567 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,640 replacement. The Kittle like decent targets 1568 01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,680 and obviously scored the touchdown. 1569 01:33:54,440 --> 01:33:57,960 I I don't know how like sustainable like him wrestling 1570 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:04,280 like taking balls from defenders should have been pick stuff is, 1571 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:10,720 but obviously he he he's a good pinch start with with kill out. 1572 01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,600 Yeah, good, good shot there and and good shot about his 1573 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,960 wrestling the ball with man. Brock Pretty had some really bad 1574 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:23,280 looking throws, yeah, but also also had good throws. 1575 01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,280 But man, there was some. There was some stinkers. 1576 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:27,400 He put the ball, yeah, he put the ball out there. 1577 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,160 It might, you know, with the, with the injury stuff, maybe he 1578 01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,120 was hurt for, you know, a good chunk of that game and and 1579 01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,600 that's why it looked so bad because he he looked awesome 1580 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,400 last year and and did not look great in week 1. 1581 01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,960 Yeah, yeah, maybe, maybe he, he wasn't getting the power on his 1582 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,920 throws that that he, he wanted to. 1583 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:54,200 But yeah, moving on to the the receiver's charts and the ones 1584 01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:58,880 that kind of stuck out to me the way when when when we first 1585 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:04,560 started doing these charts that we always kind of taught the the 1586 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,880 to the to the the the top and to the left part of the the chart 1587 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,400 is kind of like the regression candidates. 1588 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,280 The one that that kind of looked interesting to me is relative to 1589 01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:21,080 the reaction from a Mecca Bukas start is kind of like he he's 1590 01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,720 probably a little bit weaker here, even though he he ran so 1591 01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,760 many routes. His his target spread run of 1592 01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:33,200 only 17% and a dot 12.7. That's pretty good. 1593 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:37,200 And then getting the two touchdowns, obviously, like 1594 01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,280 you're not, you're not going to project anybody very well, very 1595 01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:44,560 many players to score 24 points per week. 1596 01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:49,400 So I mean, obvious regression candidate, but I, I do think 1597 01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:54,520 the, the per route target stuff was a little weaker than maybe 1598 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,880 what what people were kind of signposting. 1599 01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:01,120 You love seeing the full routes out the gate and you love seeing 1600 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,160 them score the touchdowns. You love seeing them get stuff 1601 01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:09,280 down the field. And but I, I, I don't know, I 1602 01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,320 I'm a little less, maybe a little less impressed than than 1603 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:16,200 other people are at the gate. Yeah, I think he's one where it, 1604 01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:20,840 it would not shock me at all if we see a trend of, you know, his 1605 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:25,080 targets for route run going up and and we see him getting more 1606 01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,600 involved week after week after week where he carves out a 1607 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,240 bigger and bigger role in the offense. 1608 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:32,160 Wouldn't surprise me. But I I agree with you that it's 1609 01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:36,600 one that we need to watch because the Week 1, like what 1610 01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,400 the actual Week 1 peripherals say is not as good as the Week 1 1611 01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,760 fantasy score. Obviously, it's still like in, 1612 01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,640 in a vacuum, the Week 1 peripherals for, Hey, this is a 1613 01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,960 rookie wide receiver in his first game ever. 1614 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,200 You're like, great, Yeah, this is awesome. 1615 01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:52,920 Very, very stoked about this guy. 1616 01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,760 But it's not, you know, the the two touchdowns are doing a lot 1617 01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:01,080 of heavy lifting on the, the perception of him where I, I 1618 01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,440 agree with you that the perception is just slightly 1619 01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:06,240 overinflated, which I hate to say because I, I thought he 1620 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:07,880 played awesome and, and looked good. 1621 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,040 But yeah, he's one. It wouldn't surprise me to see 1622 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,080 the peripherals improve and him him earn more targets. 1623 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:21,080 Like let me let me come up with a a comparison where Travis 1624 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,520 Hunter, he didn't run the full routes. 1625 01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,920 He was 82% routes. So he's not on this chart and 1626 01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,520 only a 7.3% A dot. Well, he had a 30% target spread 1627 01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:35,360 run in his first game ever. So like, I guess maybe maybe 1628 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,680 that's an unfair comparison where Travis Hunter is one of 1629 01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:45,280 the best at rookies ever. And but yeah, and maybe Emeka 1630 01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,160 Buka just isn't quite in that category. 1631 01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:52,480 So him hitting here is good relative to some expectations, 1632 01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:56,440 but. Yeah. 1633 01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,120 The you need to see that improve. 1634 01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:03,800 I think for your fifth round, pick to and probably higher in 1635 01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:07,320 some other formats to hit. Yeah, for me, the difference. 1636 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,480 So Ibuka has a couple deep targets, got an intermediate 1637 01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:13,840 target and then 3 short or behind the line of scrimmage 1638 01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,440 targets where Travis Hunter, it was all short or behind the line 1639 01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:19,920 of scrimmage. And then he did have one deep 1640 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:24,360 target that helps make his A dot look not quite as low as it 1641 01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,200 actually was. But if you watch the game, 1642 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:31,160 almost every Travis Hunter target was an immediate, like, 1643 01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:35,920 this was a Liam Cohen designed play to quickly get the ball out 1644 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,800 right away. Here's Travis Hunter. 1645 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,320 It's a little bubble screen. It's a quick slant. 1646 01:38:40,480 --> 01:38:43,760 It's like. That's the Liam Cohen like that. 1647 01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,320 That's yeah, yeah, MO yeah, yeah, for sure. 1648 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,960 It's not not to knock anything on Travis Hunter, but just to 1649 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,000 like when making the comparison between him and a Mecca Iguca. 1650 01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:59,400 I feel like for Hunter, it's I don't want to say like less of 1651 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,880 it is earned, but there there is more that is by design for 1652 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,640 Hunter where and I don't think that's going away by by any 1653 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:10,720 stretch of the imagination, you know, but I do think Igbuka is 1654 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,560 what. You're saying is he's happened 1655 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:13,960 to do more to earn those targets? 1656 01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,600 Exactly. Yes, and I think he's live to 1657 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:20,120 earn more of them, but also Travis Hunter is live to earn 1658 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:21,920 more targets. So I just want to make the 1659 01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,760 comparison there and say like, hey, Hunter might have had a 1660 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,000 little easier sledding out of the gate to get that higher 1661 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,640 targets per route run and and and that's a good thing. 1662 01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,800 You know, like the team wants to get you the ball. 1663 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,040 This is good. And so I, and I think it could 1664 01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,600 continue to grow, But I, I do think Iguca probably is going to 1665 01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,160 have to earn it a little bit more, but I certainly think that 1666 01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:48,840 he can So excited for both of those players, but just wanted, 1667 01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:52,120 wanted that context there. I do like your your comment 1668 01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:55,360 about the regression candidates, though, because we see Quentin 1669 01:39:55,360 --> 01:40:00,320 Johnson and Keyon Coleman up there close to that median line 1670 01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,600 where they're going to be on the left side there in that upper 1671 01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,800 left quadrant. But basically all these guys up 1672 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,480 here in the top are guys who either, you know, they all 1673 01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:12,280 scored at least one touchdown. And had like high, high 1674 01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:14,520 efficiency where Keon Coleman's catching a bunch of deeper 1675 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,440 stuff. Quinton Johnson gets the two TDs 1676 01:40:16,440 --> 01:40:18,200 and Mecca and Buka the two TDs right. 1677 01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:21,160 So from a fantasy point standpoint, you're obviously 1678 01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:26,400 gonna expect regression from a, from a role like, hey, what is 1679 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,840 this guy? I think Ibuka is directionally 1680 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,640 accurate here. I I think like if anything you 1681 01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,680 will see him come down on fantasy points per game, but I 1682 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,080 bet you will see him move a little bit to the right on the 1683 01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:41,840 weighted targets per route run. Quinton Johnston I think is 1684 01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,720 going to move down and to the left where his weighted targets 1685 01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:47,960 per route run come down his fantasy points per game come 1686 01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:51,680 down. Keon Coleman is 1 where I, I was 1687 01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:54,720 like certified fader of the Keon Coleman fan club. 1688 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,320 Really thought he was in the same archetype as Quinton 1689 01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:02,960 Johnston of just this hey kind of flame out rookie receiver 1690 01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,120 didn't see a lot of redeeming qualities to his game last year. 1691 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,880 He did have the the short stretch where it seemed like 1692 01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,520 he's starting to put together that has the wrist injury comes 1693 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,200 back and it it just doesn't stay put together for him. 1694 01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,480 So maybe that was the the actual truth there. 1695 01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,640 But Kian Coleman's the one that I am the I think there's the 1696 01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,640 widest range of outcomes for him here. 1697 01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,320 I mean, Mecca, Gbuka, extremely wide range of outcomes, but. 1698 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:38,640 Yeah, I I agree more so he had 22% target rate run at 12.8 at A 1699 01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,200 dot. So he's getting he's getting 1700 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:47,760 down the field at targets from from Josh Allen and he and he's 1701 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:49,800 he's earning down the field targets. 1702 01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:54,240 He's he's in the 90 to 95% ninety 4% right rate. 1703 01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:59,960 He's our ex receiver and and obviously he got a touchdown. 1704 01:41:59,960 --> 01:42:03,400 We're not going to expect him to score 25 points a game. 1705 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:08,360 But upon upon kind of looking at the Keon Coleman saying like 1706 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:14,400 it's probably like obviously him being up here, you can't expect 1707 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,960 him to score this many points a game going forward. 1708 01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:22,080 You're not expecting Josh Allen to drop back like 50 * a game, 1709 01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:27,720 but very, very strong early game for Keon Coleman. 1710 01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:29,480 Yeah. And and that. 1711 01:42:29,480 --> 01:42:32,600 I I I'm I faded them too and I'm feeling bad about fading. 1712 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,280 Them the the point you made about Josh Allen is not going to 1713 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:39,240 drop back 50 * a game That to me is the strongest piece of 1714 01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,960 evidence for hey, like cool, cool The Jets on Keon Coleman 1715 01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:47,880 last year, the Bills did not want to pass like if if given 1716 01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:53,400 any opportunity to not pass, they were happy to accept and 1717 01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,360 so. I have to do it. 1718 01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,800 They have to do it in this game. Yeah, I'd fully anticipate that 1719 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,280 to come down a lot and that might hurt Keon Coleman. 1720 01:43:01,480 --> 01:43:04,680 And so then rather than getting there from volume like he did on 1721 01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,480 this game, he got there from volume and efficiency on this 1722 01:43:07,480 --> 01:43:09,800 game. But when you're stuck with just 1723 01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:13,720 efficiency in a low volume, that's that's more where I think 1724 01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,720 that you'll probably have Keon Coleman live for the majority of 1725 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,600 the season, which to me it probably lends him more to like 1726 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:24,160 a a better like spike week. Like harder to know when to 1727 01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:27,360 start him for a managed league type player, but probably 1728 01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:30,720 probably a decent pick at cost for best ball. 1729 01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:35,560 Pretty probably a pretty strong pick, Yeah, get it. 1730 01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,720 It just we don't know. We don't know when those weeks 1731 01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:39,560 are going to come where they have to drop back a lot. 1732 01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:49,000 Yeah, let's see other receivers. Yeah, I mean, guys, guys with 1733 01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,680 really, really strong usage profiles that didn't score a ton 1734 01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:56,640 of points, but not only like had the the peripherals and looked 1735 01:43:56,640 --> 01:44:01,720 really good, you know, just actually watching the game, like 1736 01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:05,480 watching them play like pass the eye test, like Yep, this is the 1737 01:44:05,480 --> 01:44:07,640 alpha receiver. This is clearly the best 1738 01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,920 receiver on the team. Lad Mcconkey, Ted McMillan. 1739 01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:15,600 I mean, to me, both of them had very, very strong games. 1740 01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:18,720 Like every time you watch either of their targets, if you if you 1741 01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:22,680 didn't get to watch these games all the way through, I would say 1742 01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:24,760 at the very least just go back and watch. 1743 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:28,240 There's a good like Ted McMillan, every target cut up, 1744 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,920 it's floating around out there. He looked awesome. 1745 01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:35,120 Like he he's the real deal. Yeah. 1746 01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:41,520 Just certify. 88% rate rate. He had a 12.8 at 8 odds. 1747 01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:47,520 So like absolutely kind of like 8A usage at 1.9 yards per out 1748 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:52,160 run, 23% targets per out run. He's winning like every route 1749 01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,000 too. If you if you watch the routes 1750 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,520 like he's, he's just a good route runner. 1751 01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:01,440 Like everything's smooth. There's, there's separation like 1752 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,400 and even on the routes where there's not as much separation, 1753 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,240 like he's just winning at the catch point. 1754 01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,560 Like he, he's an awesome receiver. 1755 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:11,560 He's going. To yeah, he's who I should have 1756 01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:16,880 come to Abuka to as like, hey, here's a guy who can win 1757 01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:22,280 straight away, is getting the full target slot right away, but 1758 01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:27,080 he's in a worse offense, so he probably will under undershoot 1759 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:30,560 Abuka on touchdowns. Yep, that's that's the warts on 1760 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,920 the frog. Here is Bryce Young is throwing 1761 01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,400 this guy the ball and Bryce looked like he was turning back 1762 01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,040 into a pumpkin. You gotta you gotta hope that's 1763 01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,800 just inconsistency and Bryce will be able to have games where 1764 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:45,920 he's good. But I am I'm, you know, feeling 1765 01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:47,960 a little concerned about Bryce there. 1766 01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,280 I'm not feeling concerned about Ladd Mcconkey's quarterback 1767 01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,240 play. Ladd Mcconkey might be set up to 1768 01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,240 have a really, really fun season with how good Justin Herbert 1769 01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,000 looks, how good the charged offense looks and the fact that 1770 01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:03,160 they were willing to pass so heavily, you know, I would 1771 01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,880 expect their pre to come down. There's no way it's going to 1772 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:12,120 stay at 15% week over week. But I think that what you'll 1773 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,800 likely see happen is in those games where the Chargers don't 1774 01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:19,800 pass as much, the guys that are more, you know, the tertiary 1775 01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,400 options and the Quinton Johnston and the Keenan Allen. 1776 01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:25,960 I I think those guys are the ones that probably see their 1777 01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:30,200 opportunities dwindle and Ladd is the one that that manages to 1778 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,760 maintain of that target share. He's just he wins it all depths. 1779 01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:38,200 He's he's just good. He's good at everything. 1780 01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:43,480 He's a extremely well-rounded wide receiver where hey, after 1781 01:46:43,480 --> 01:46:46,760 the catch, I am super happy to have lab Makaki with the ball on 1782 01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:50,840 his hands, right, like route running guy is winning on damn 1783 01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,120 near every route. Like he's great hands too. 1784 01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:55,840 Like there were a couple pretty difficult catches. 1785 01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,680 He like he's he's just a he's a full package receiver man. 1786 01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:05,040 He's really good, excited for the year 2 ascension to continue 1787 01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,120 for him. Yeah. 1788 01:47:07,440 --> 01:47:11,360 And the order, the the biggest surprise, honestly the by far 1789 01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:14,160 the biggest surprise when I was looking at the data behind this 1790 01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:20,240 chart is looking at the Steelers, where you look at the 1791 01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:27,080 Steelers and obviously DK Metcalf, he got a 21% target 1792 01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:30,960 spread run and then he got 2.5 yards per out run. 1793 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:34,840 So he was pretty good. He still ended up with 21 yards 1794 01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,080 per section, but his A dot was 4.1. 1795 01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:43,320 And then you look at Calvin Austin, who also had a 21% 1796 01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:46,320 target spread run, who had a 15-A dot. 1797 01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:54,440 And and maybe that's just one of those weird things of like if 1798 01:47:54,440 --> 01:47:58,240 you're looking at a single game sample size, but I'm kind of 1799 01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:05,200 shocked that Calvin Austin kind of got alpha route rate, alpha 1800 01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,080 target spread run. And then he did at a pretty high 1801 01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:15,040 A dot if Aaron Rodgers sticks this year and it's looking like 1802 01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:16,560 Calvin Austin is a league winner. 1803 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,440 Yeah, I'm, I mean, I would love that to be true. 1804 01:48:20,440 --> 01:48:22,440 I drafted a good like. That's a lot of ifs. 1805 01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:24,960 That's a lot of ifs to make that happen. 1806 01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,320 There are a lot of ifs and I, I think the thing that I am most 1807 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:32,840 skeptical on is that the passing volume will be there. 1808 01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,640 And I, I think the thing you're more likely to have is that 1809 01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:41,520 Calvin Austin gets a couple deep shots a game, you know, 123 in, 1810 01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:45,360 in a normal game, but this game was a shootout like the, there 1811 01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,720 were a lot more plays running this game that I would expect a 1812 01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:49,280 normal Steelers game to have in it. 1813 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:54,000 So I'm, I'm tempering expectations probably just 1814 01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,000 because I don't want to get too over my skis and excited because 1815 01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,360 some of my favorite teams have Calvin Austin on them. 1816 01:48:59,960 --> 01:49:03,760 Like looking at my 555 teams, like 20th round Calvin Austin, 1817 01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,240 19th round Harold Fannon. That's pretty fun. 1818 01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:09,920 But yeah, I just, I don't want to get overly excited there. 1819 01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,880 I think that it's it's one where the the trap door could drop out 1820 01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,720 from beneath us really easily, where we're like, Oh yeah, 1821 01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,560 Calvin Austin is just like, we'll get three games out of 1822 01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:20,880 them in the course of the season. 1823 01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:22,360 Where? Yeah, maybe not just an area 1824 01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:25,560 yards guy. Yeah, but week 1 was fun. 1825 01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:27,840 I don't think I, I don't, yeah, I don't think they went. 1826 01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:31,280 I don't think they went. So they had 34 drop backs, 30 1827 01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:35,640 attempts, and they were -1% PROE. 1828 01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:40,800 And so like, nothing crazy there from the volume perspective, but 1829 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:44,800 maybe maybe they're they're behind for a lot of the game. 1830 01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:48,800 So maybe in a normal game they're just like running the 1831 01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,640 piss out of the ball. And yeah, I think, I think even 1832 01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,720 though the drop backs look normal, it's like in the context 1833 01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:58,720 of an Arthur Smith Steelers office with Aaron Rodgers, the 1834 01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,160 slowest motherfucker to ever play the game. 1835 01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:08,440 Like I think that I saw that dude, I was cracking up. 1836 01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:12,040 Such a just absolutely inexcusable. 1837 01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:16,440 Like, dude, at the very least, like call this time out. 1838 01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,280 Like you just take this bare minimum. 1839 01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:21,080 Of stuff. Dude, that was atrocious. 1840 01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:25,000 But yeah, that's that's the concern with Calvin Austin is 1841 01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,840 that the baseline is 25 drop backs per game and then you're 1842 01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:29,720 they're not quite as excited about it. 1843 01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:34,000 Any other receiver. I the the thing that I. 1844 01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:36,880 I mean, I I don't think we have to talk too much about like 1845 01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:41,120 bounce back games for yeah, week 1 Devonta, A.J. 1846 01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:46,720 Brown, like you, you guys get the idea Like we're we're we're 1847 01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,440 not, we're not we're not trying it. 1848 01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:50,400 We're not going to spend too much time on that. 1849 01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:57,120 And so then you look, I am manure that that one is kind of 1850 01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:03,400 surprising and where he he like dominates here in the way the 1851 01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:09,360 target sprout run like. And I I my note was like, is, is 1852 01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:14,400 he just like an air yards king? And yes, he is an aired, but 1853 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:20,400 like he's 25% target sprout run 19A dot where like they're not 1854 01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,720 that good of a team. And and so they might have to 1855 01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:30,240 throw a lot at we the buck is still out on how good Cam Ward 1856 01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:34,560 is. So like how, how useful is a lot 1857 01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,320 of getting a lot of these deep targets. 1858 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:41,040 They didn't hit hit on them this week and with only 6 1/2 years 1859 01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:45,640 per reception. And but that's one where you 1860 01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,360 probably you're probably going to get some big spike weeks from 1861 01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:51,760 my menorah. Yeah, I think he goes as Cam 1862 01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:55,880 Ward goes this season where Cam Ward is is functional, which my 1863 01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:59,200 my lean the entire offseason was, no, I don't think he's very 1864 01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,640 good. I'd be so happy to eat my words 1865 01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:03,760 on it because I still drafted a decent amount of them. 1866 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:08,440 Because, you know, there there are people that I really trust 1867 01:52:08,440 --> 01:52:11,160 their opinion in their process that thought he had the 1868 01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:13,600 requisite upside to make it worth it at the price that he 1869 01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:17,720 was going. So yeah, IO man ore is a really 1870 01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:21,520 nice compliment to the Cam ward bet where if that works out, 1871 01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:25,520 he's going to be pretty fun. So I think like the the range of 1872 01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:29,760 outcomes is wide, like to the extent where it's this guy never 1873 01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:34,600 has a startable week or this guy is like a a very startable wide 1874 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:38,600 receiver level of wide. So pretty, pretty fun there. 1875 01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:42,440 Like you could do worse for a bench dash, right? 1876 01:52:42,440 --> 01:52:45,120 Like what? Cause 'cause the thing with, you 1877 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:46,600 know, rookie quarterbacks. Much worse. 1878 01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,920 Much worse. He's a starting receiver getting 1879 01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:53,640 targets down the field, and we just don't know how good the 1880 01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:56,680 offense is yet. Yeah, and the thing that, you 1881 01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,280 know, you don't really want to be behind on is if you get the 1882 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:03,560 good Cam Ward game where all of a sudden, like you see that it's 1883 01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:07,200 it's potential to start clicking and like how, hey, this this 1884 01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:10,240 could be a good rookie season. You're going to miss the plane 1885 01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:14,360 on Iron Man ore because that that good Cam Ward game probably 1886 01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:16,920 comes with some awesome Iron Man or points. 1887 01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:22,320 So anyway, that's that's all on Iron Man or the ones that I want 1888 01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:26,120 to touch on are the dusty olds in the top right of the chart. 1889 01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:27,880 You know, Keenan Allen, Debo Samuel. 1890 01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:29,840 I think they're both pretty interesting. 1891 01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:35,720 You and I had a discussion about Debo off the air where you saw 1892 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:39,200 it as, hey, Debo was a, you know, we were ahead of market on 1893 01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:41,160 FFPC. You were like, oh, this is a 1894 01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:44,960 good process win. Like nail Debo and I, I was 1895 01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:48,440 like, when you say nail Debo, you mean as as like a fade, 1896 01:53:48,440 --> 01:53:51,000 right, 'cause we were, we were behind market on underdog. 1897 01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:56,840 And I think that it's kind of a, it's a beauty is in the eye of 1898 01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:58,840 the beholder thing 'cause I can definitely see where you're 1899 01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,040 coming from where he gets all these targets. 1900 01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:02,680 He's heavily involved in the offense. 1901 01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:08,960 Like he gets the touchdown. My my perspective on it was, I 1902 01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,600 mean he's getting a lot of these little rinky dink dump offs, 1903 01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:14,520 which yes, that is a feature, not a bug in the Kingsbury 1904 01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:16,160 offense. Like that's going to be a thing. 1905 01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,240 But he looked pretty bad to me like he has he has some bad 1906 01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:24,400 drops. He looks slow, like he just he 1907 01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,680 doesn't look anywhere near like the explosive Debo that you used 1908 01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,680 to have. Now granted the the run like he 1909 01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:34,000 gets into the end zone by doing Debo stuff right. 1910 01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:37,080 But if you watch that run, like go back and. 1911 01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,880 I watched that one like two or three times. 1912 01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,560 Especially you saw something different to me. 1913 01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,120 How many players on the field are moving faster than Debo 1914 01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:51,360 Samuel is the thing that you. What I what I saw, what I was 1915 01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,040 looking at is how many players tried to tackle Debo. 1916 01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,320 'S that's and that's. Unable to. 1917 01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,720 I, I think, and that's the, that's kind of the dichotomy 1918 01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:03,440 here where it's like, if you think that that is and you were 1919 01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:06,240 very right and like, but dude, that is what Debo is. 1920 01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,960 Debo is hard to tackle. That's what makes him special. 1921 01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:12,200 My thing is, it's kind of like the running backs with the high 1922 01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,840 missed tackles forced where it's like the David Montgomery's of 1923 01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,520 the world. It's like the Naji Harris I'm 1924 01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:20,800 going to shed 6 tackles for one additional yard. 1925 01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,560 That's kind of my nightmare with Debo that I'm seeing here. 1926 01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,400 Where? He got now he did have to break. 1927 01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:30,840 He had to break 2 tackles to get the last 10 yards and touch 1928 01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:32,840 them. The run was very well blocked 1929 01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:38,040 too and not it. Was well blocked, but it wasn't 1930 01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:40,920 like he was just walking in behind his blockers like guys. 1931 01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:42,080 No, he didn't. He didn't. 1932 01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,160 He did not. Yeah, I can't take that away 1933 01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:45,680 from him. He did break those tackles at 1934 01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,280 the end of the run. But man, go go back and watch it 1935 01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:50,640 one more time. There was also a guy, yeah, once 1936 01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:54,120 he turned the corner, the, the, the inside linebacker tried to 1937 01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:58,800 tackle him and like he just like went straight into Debo and like 1938 01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:02,600 it was like the the Taco, even though it was an inside 1939 01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,640 linebacker or our safety trying to hit him as hard as he could, 1940 01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,680 the Taco had such a little impact on it that it was like, I 1941 01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:12,880 don't like it might not even encounter as a like, as an 1942 01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:16,760 attempt to tackle. No, I think that's fair enough. 1943 01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:19,120 Mind to it? I think it's really good. 1944 01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,880 When you look at, when you look at like prime Debo. 1945 01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:25,600 He. He was never a burner. 1946 01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:30,000 Like his 4/4 time was like a 448, so like never a burner. 1947 01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,680 But he did used to be a little bit faster. 1948 01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:37,280 Like I don't think he's quite slow, but he did used to be 1949 01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,400 faster. Like he slowed down a little 1950 01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:41,480 bit. And then because of that, he's 1951 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:45,000 going to have to break more tackles now to get the like last 1952 01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:47,920 yardage, which means more miles on the clock. 1953 01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:54,440 So like he probably is a first half of the season guy, but I do 1954 01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:56,720 think the first half of the season is going to be strong 1955 01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:02,080 because like you're saying where it's like Debo fits the the the 1956 01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:06,520 offense so well where he has rinky dink shit and then it's 1957 01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:08,680 fucking Debo Samuel. You can't tackle them. 1958 01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:12,640 So he turns that rinky Dick shit into like something good. 1959 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:17,760 And it's it's well, or when it's well orchestrated and the blocks 1960 01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:19,680 are good, the play is going to be awesome. 1961 01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:25,280 Yeah, that's I, I'm, I'm coming around to your point of view on 1962 01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:27,320 it. I think my after like 1963 01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:32,000 synthesizing my opinion after watching the game and watching 1964 01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:37,120 him and I I think where I stand is cautious optimism on him 1965 01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:41,000 where like I definitely see, I see the good a little bit better 1966 01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,480 than I did previously just from hearing you lay the case out. 1967 01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:49,760 But yeah, I I would the upside seems a little capped to me in 1968 01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:51,080 that like. Yeah, it is it. 1969 01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:54,880 Is but the like vintage demo Samuel season's not happening. 1970 01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:56,080 That's not on the right. That's. 1971 01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:57,440 Not in the car, no. No. 1972 01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,640 But you could get, you could get a pretty good outcome for what 1973 01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:03,760 you paid for him. The one that's a little more. 1974 01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:06,320 I, I, I'm conflicted with this one. 1975 01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:07,360 I want to talk through it with you. 1976 01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:11,600 But Keenan Allen to me, there's, there's a lot of stuff going on 1977 01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:13,000 here. Number one, we saw him look 1978 01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:15,960 totally, totally washed last year in Chicago. 1979 01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:19,280 Now I I think that that might have just been some bears stink 1980 01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,720 on him. I think that that was the bears 1981 01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:23,360 stink. I really, really do. 1982 01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,560 Yeah. I mean that DJ Murr Stone too, 1983 01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:28,600 and I think DJ Murr is still awesome. 1984 01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:35,320 Yeah, that's, that's very fair. I just I wonder how useful 1985 01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:41,080 Keenan is going to be as this season evolves at, you know, we 1986 01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:44,400 we talked about it earlier, like the older guys, you know, are 1987 01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,840 going to look better at the start of the season than they 1988 01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:49,880 will at the end of the season. So I wonder how he holds up in 1989 01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,240 that regard. I'm also wondering how when the 1990 01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:56,480 Chargers don't have quite as many drop backs, you know, what 1991 01:58:56,480 --> 01:59:00,880 it looks like for Keenan Allen, because he's more like, you 1992 01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:06,320 know, he's not getting tons of like super, you know, high, high 1993 01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,680 A dot stuff like he got the touchdown. 1994 01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,080 You know, he still can do the Keenan Allen stuff where he's 1995 01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:16,520 like he's good at getting open and he he can find the soft 1996 01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:20,160 spots in his own. And but I'm, I'm just a little 1997 01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:24,960 concerned that as the season goes on, he just ends up being a 1998 01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:29,040 the kind of guy where there's really not a lot of ceiling. 1999 01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:31,720 And then the thing that that used to make him great where 2000 01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:33,680 it's like, yeah, but it's so consistent. 2001 01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,200 You'd get so many targets. That's also gone. 2002 01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:39,640 And it's like it, it's still consistent, but it's like 3 to 5 2003 01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,320 targets. That's the, that's my. 2004 01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:45,400 Oh yeah, the the prime, the prime Kane of the Allen thing is 2005 01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:49,120 gone. Like I, I, I agree with you. 2006 01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:52,400 Like where it's never going to be like Kane of the Allen is 2007 01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:56,800 just Kane of the Allen anymore. But definitely I do think like 2008 01:59:56,800 --> 02:00:01,760 in terms of like even like what the closing price and that was 2009 02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:06,680 the most expensive where you're getting 78% route share, which 2010 02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:10,880 is like not really part time. Like to me, that's not part time 2011 02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:13,320 at all. Like that's that's borderline 2012 02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:17,000 starter for the team. Like he got like I know they 2013 02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:21,600 dropped back a ton, but he said he did get 32 reps and then. 2014 02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:26,640 And then you also, you get the element of when he's out there, 2015 02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:29,040 it's to get Keenan Allen the ball because he moves the 2016 02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:30,040 chains. Yeah. 2017 02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:37,320 And obviously, so he scored 20 points here and that's helped by 2018 02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:43,760 the touchdown that's helped by the massive PROE and, and, and 2019 02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:48,000 maybe his maybe his projection should be like 10 points and 2020 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:52,400 every game. And like we all have a bunch of 2021 02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:55,360 team. Hopefully nobody's teams. 2022 02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:57,280 Like that's like, oh, I have to start them. 2023 02:00:59,080 --> 02:01:01,720 Maybe some Xavier wordy teams that you have to you have to 2024 02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:04,080 start them now, but hopefully not too many. 2025 02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:09,880 And so I don't think like I'm not super at juice, but like I 2026 02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:12,800 do think relative to my expectations going in where 2027 02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:17,520 Keenan Allen was kind of washed and, and they were kind of 2028 02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:20,880 saying what they had in them, like there's, there's still 2029 02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:24,200 clearly juice left there. It was just kind of my, my take 2030 02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:26,880 away. And like he's going to have 2031 02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:30,280 like, maybe this is the high watermark and 20 points is kind 2032 02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:31,920 of sad as a high watermark, but like. 2033 02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:35,240 That's. That's fantasy juice. 2034 02:01:35,320 --> 02:01:38,320 Yeah. And you take that I as I think 2035 02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:41,880 through like our process in the offseason and as far as like 2036 02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:43,640 ranking him and the inputs we had on him. 2037 02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:48,280 I I don't really think that our, you know, the probability of him 2038 02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:50,400 retiring, not playing in the NFL this year. 2039 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:52,360 I don't really think we were that off on that. 2040 02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:55,280 We didn't have it terribly high, but we did. 2041 02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:58,280 We had it, you know, non 0. Right. 2042 02:01:58,360 --> 02:01:59,880 Right for the summer, 'cause he was. 2043 02:01:59,880 --> 02:02:01,720 Silent for a lot of the years on signed. 2044 02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:04,120 Deep into training camp, you know, like. 2045 02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:08,480 There's a definitely no noise like with with Nick Chubb, like 2046 02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:11,000 even before he was signed, it was like Nick Chubb would really 2047 02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:14,200 like to sign somewhere, right? Right, so we're. 2048 02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:16,440 Quite getting that. And then we also got a Mary 2049 02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:19,400 Cooper who retired. Yeah, exactly. 2050 02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:23,360 So I I kind of wonder if we just ran a little bad on Keenan 2051 02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:27,760 process wise or if really like the spot where we were weak is 2052 02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:32,360 the inputs for hey, what would Keenan Allen actually do were he 2053 02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:35,840 going to be playing? We probably attributed too much 2054 02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:39,600 of the bears stink to him there and and I think that might have 2055 02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:42,640 been the weakness in our Keenan Allen projection. 2056 02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:46,160 But I do think there was a pretty substantial amount of 2057 02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:49,880 risk there where if you're drafting Keenan Allen, you did 2058 02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:53,240 manage to dodge a bullet, especially when the price rose, 2059 02:02:53,480 --> 02:02:57,880 you know, at the cheap price. That probably was like our bad 2060 02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:02,320 for for assuming that the bears stink was was not because of the 2061 02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:03,640 bears. And then that part of it was 2062 02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,400 Keenan was washed. But I do think you want to be 2063 02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,680 pretty cautious on on guys like this when you start to see the 2064 02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:11,360 fall off because it it can go quick. 2065 02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:14,760 So just wanted to talk through that as a process thing and like 2066 02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:17,800 and think through it. I mean, it's definitely going to 2067 02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:22,000 go down as as an L like I, I've got to got to hold the L on it 2068 02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,800 for the Keenan Allen Fage from the result. 2069 02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:29,240 But I I don't know if like probabilistically if it was as 2070 02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:32,400 big of an L, but I I do think I. No, I, I get you. 2071 02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:37,080 I, I think process wise it was OK where we, we were baking in a 2072 02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:39,840 lot of a decent member retirement risk, which was a 2073 02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:43,040 real risk. Then once that retirement risk 2074 02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:47,520 kind of got somewhat eliminated, it was never fully eliminated as 2075 02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:52,640 seen by Mary Cooper retiring. And we still like there was 2076 02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:57,360 still some probability that is going to come back and stink. 2077 02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:04,680 And I, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think that we 2078 02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:09,280 were terribly wrong on that. But like that's like we're 2079 02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:12,120 reacting to news. He's not retiring and he's kind 2080 02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:14,680 of good like that. That's that's where we are. 2081 02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:18,880 Yeah. Anyone else on this chart or did 2082 02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:20,440 you want to move on to the next one? 2083 02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:25,960 I, I, I have made a note to talk about Travis Hunter and, but I 2084 02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:28,360 think we kind of covered him with him getting kind of like 2085 02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:31,440 him getting the quick a dot stuff to get involved. 2086 02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:36,240 He did get the downfield shot and we're we're excited about 2087 02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:37,400 Travis. Hunter, he's he's going to be 2088 02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:38,680 good. He's going to be fun. 2089 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:42,200 I think the floor is quite high just with the way that Liam 2090 02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:44,760 Cohen likes to run his offense and the role that he's already 2091 02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:46,800 got carved out for Travis Hunter. 2092 02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,720 So it's you got to be excited after this first game, although 2093 02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:53,200 it wasn't a huge fantasy game, you got to feel good. 2094 02:04:54,080 --> 02:05:00,760 Yeah, yeah, for sure. And then moving on to the the 2095 02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:05,080 kind of like not quite backups, but like very rotational guys. 2096 02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:09,320 It's kind of funny seeing puka on on this chart. 2097 02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:12,120 He did it last year too. It's it's Evergreen. 2098 02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:13,840 Took it to cool on the backups chart. 2099 02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:16,480 He came out like other game two or three. 2100 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:20,680 Times it was 3. Times he was like his eye was 2101 02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:23,520 bleeding. Then the independent evaluator 2102 02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:25,560 said, yeah, you're you're a fucking nick, mate. 2103 02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,760 Like we're checking, we're double checking you for 2104 02:05:28,760 --> 02:05:31,440 concussion. And but then when he came back 2105 02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:33,560 out, like we need to get this guy to fall. 2106 02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,840 Yeah. It is kind of weird like 2107 02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:43,080 obviously just that I don't know, not a lot of signal in 2108 02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:46,760 that kind of like wacky usage. I did. 2109 02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:49,520 I did see, I do see Jayden Higgins. 2110 02:05:50,840 --> 02:05:54,760 He came out pretty heavily targeted and and and you kind of 2111 02:05:54,760 --> 02:06:00,880 consider targets errand like for somebody who's more rotational 2112 02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:05,600 as a rookie in in their first game, you do love to see them 2113 02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:07,240 earning their targets. I did. 2114 02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:12,400 I did see a note that he he dropped the pass that ended into 2115 02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:15,600 a pic. I I don't I, but I know you did 2116 02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:19,160 have did you watch that game? I don't think I saw him drop the 2117 02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:22,760 pass into the pic. There was there's a play where 2118 02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:28,040 he got a target that I think I'm remembering this correctly. 2119 02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:31,480 He got like a low target that ended up in the dirt that I 2120 02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:32,880 thought that he he could have caught. 2121 02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:35,560 Shouldn't he caught OK? He had a drop. 2122 02:06:35,600 --> 02:06:39,520 Is is basically OK, so maybe a maybe I'm remembering a note? 2123 02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:41,760 I, I could, I could be wrong on that one too, though. 2124 02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:43,600 I I need to go back and watch that one. 2125 02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:47,560 But yeah, definitely encouraging to to get, you know, as high a 2126 02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:51,200 weighted targets for route run as he did first game as a 2127 02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:53,840 rookie. I would expect that to grow. 2128 02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:56,840 You know, the the barriers to him there of like the Xavier 2129 02:06:56,840 --> 02:07:01,040 Hutchinson and the whatever else the Titans or the taxes were 2130 02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:04,240 rolling out entirely unconcerning to me. 2131 02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:07,680 So think you have to feel good about Jayden Higgins just going 2132 02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:11,800 to be the classic rookie, you know, journey of a little little 2133 02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:16,240 bit of a slower start for him, but definitely see this as a a 2134 02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:18,400 bullish start for him in spite of. 2135 02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:21,680 Right. He got 21% targets per run with 2136 02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:24,240 A17A dot. So he was half he was definitely 2137 02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:27,400 having to earn those guys. So like maybe he's starting out 2138 02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:36,120 as kind of like a rotational deep shock guy and but like it 2139 02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:40,040 for them to even though they're they're they're they're bringing 2140 02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:41,880 them on as a rotational deep shock guy. 2141 02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:44,080 He's he's earning the targets when he's doing it. 2142 02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:48,680 So you do feel hopeful that that will lead to the role expansion 2143 02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:54,680 that we that we want. And then the other one that I 2144 02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:57,640 guess so like Stefan digs on this chart, obviously a big part 2145 02:07:57,640 --> 02:07:59,600 of that is coming off the ACL tear. 2146 02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:04,640 And but normally when you see guys who are being eased back 2147 02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:11,000 from injury and not played that much, you see a huge targets per 2148 02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:14,280 out run because they're like, OK, well, now we're good players 2149 02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:15,480 on the field. We're going to target them, 2150 02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:18,880 which I'm not really seeing with that with Steph Diggs. 2151 02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:22,080 So like that has me, yeah, that has me a little bit concerned. 2152 02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:25,360 Yeah, I don't think it's particularly bullish for Diggs, 2153 02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:28,360 especially given that the offseason reporting was how 2154 02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:31,120 healthy he was and how far ahead of schedule and he's, you know, 2155 02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:35,800 wheels up all systems go. So I also think that in this 2156 02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:39,280 game, early in the game, he wasn't on the field as much. 2157 02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:43,360 It actually was that he he got on the field later in the game, 2158 02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:49,640 which is a little weird to me. So yeah, not not feeling 2159 02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:53,840 particularly bullish on digs. I mean, the Patriots had a ton 2160 02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,760 of drop backs. So I mean, if you if you look at 2161 02:08:56,760 --> 02:09:00,400 all the Patriots weapons, they all had a lot of targets. 2162 02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:02,640 Like Demario Douglas I think had 7 targets. 2163 02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:07,080 Hunter Henry had 7 targets, 6 targets for Treveon Henderson, I 2164 02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:09,280 think it was 7 for digs, 8 for booty. 2165 02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:14,280 Like everyone got targets. It was pretty spread out and 2166 02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:17,880 that's actually that's kind of what we saw last year as well in 2167 02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:21,080 that May sort of spread it out. I, I, I don't know if that's 2168 02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:24,440 anything to do with May's tendencies as a passer. 2169 02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:29,800 And if it is more just like, hey, there's not a dominant #1 2170 02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:33,160 here to like earn all of the volume and have it consolidate 2171 02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:34,920 on them. So it'll be cure. 2172 02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:38,520 It'll be definitely something I want to keep an eye on as the 2173 02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:41,440 season progresses. I I think that should someone 2174 02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:43,440 step up and be able to consolidate, there's some 2175 02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:46,880 opportunity here with what we hope is a, a really good 2176 02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:50,560 quarterback. You know it, it seems optimistic 2177 02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:53,480 for me. Like I, I do want to say like 2178 02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:59,040 jury's still out though, 'cause I, I mean, the first season it 2179 02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:02,120 was just such a dire situation that, you know, you, you just 2180 02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:04,480 take the good and you throw throw out the bad because so 2181 02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:08,840 much of it was situation. But I would have liked to see a 2182 02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:12,400 little bit better here against what's supposed to be a pretty 2183 02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:16,080 poor Raiders defense. So that was that was just like 2184 02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:20,680 slightly concerning to me as someone that's really in on May. 2185 02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:25,440 But maybe it's something where as the the better weapons emerge 2186 02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:28,880 in the offense, it consolidated a little bit more and the 2187 02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:32,000 offense becomes more efficient. But yeah. 2188 02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:36,280 Yeah, it wasn't so bad. And and to me the the spread 2189 02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:40,760 around nature of the targets is kind of highlighting to me that 2190 02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:43,400 what that's highlighting is that none of them are very good. 2191 02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:49,760 Yeah, I agree. And so maybe Drake May isn't 2192 02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:53,920 spectacular himself, but I think, I think I think he's 2193 02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:56,000 doing just fine given the weapons. 2194 02:10:56,000 --> 02:11:02,200 But yeah, I know what inner deepest, most enlightened 2195 02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:06,720 fantasies of Drake May in his rookie year, he was going to 2196 02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:10,440 elevate things. He was going to like drive all 2197 02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:15,440 the spectacular efficiency. And maybe he'll have games like 2198 02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:16,440 that. Yeah. 2199 02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:20,600 But yeah, it, it, it, it you got the Week 1 where it's a little 2200 02:11:20,600 --> 02:11:24,240 disappointing. And it it's, it's hard to see 2201 02:11:24,240 --> 02:11:27,640 Dada stop playing out at this point. 2202 02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:34,200 Yeah, got to talk about I what I think is the winner from the 2203 02:11:34,200 --> 02:11:38,320 Broncos, you know, rotational, who is going to be the guy that 2204 02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:42,640 Sean Payton likes, Marvin Mims. You can just throw that one in 2205 02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:43,960 the trash. That one's done. 2206 02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:49,560 The Marvin Mims role did change in that he is on the field now 2207 02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:54,480 more than like 40% of snaps. The Marvin Mims usage did not 2208 02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:57,160 change and that he's only targeted on these, you know, 2209 02:11:57,160 --> 02:11:59,240 behind the line of scrimmage or close the line of scrimmage 2210 02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:02,600 bullshit things. Troy Franklin is eating his 2211 02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:05,560 lunch for the deep stuff. So Troy Franklin is the guy that 2212 02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:09,160 Troy Franklin is what you wish Marvin Mims got to add to his 2213 02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:10,800 game. Troy Franklin actually is the 2214 02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:15,120 one getting to do that. So he is he's the one that's the 2215 02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:19,960 most exciting Broncos pass, catcher, net or receiver rather 2216 02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:24,320 outside of Cortland Sutton. Know you got some upside there 2217 02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:29,080 where if Troy Franklin can consolidate stuff and and earn 2218 02:12:29,080 --> 02:12:33,720 more snaps, then he could be a little exciting. 2219 02:12:35,000 --> 02:12:38,120 I mean, we, we've already seen like how Troy Franklin hits at 2220 02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:40,480 the end of last season. It's like, Oh yeah, Troy 2221 02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:43,240 Franklin can just like get behind a guy and go for a 60 2222 02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:45,480 yard touchdown. And that is that's the thing 2223 02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:48,920 that he does. So that part's exciting. 2224 02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:53,320 You know, the flies in the ointment and the warts on the 2225 02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:55,320 frog. It's the wartiest frog covered 2226 02:12:55,320 --> 02:13:00,000 in the fly, flyiest filled ointment because Sean Payton 2227 02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:04,400 does the Sean Payton bullshit where, you know, next week Troy 2228 02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:08,840 Franklin might run fewer routes inexplicably, you know, or we 2229 02:13:08,840 --> 02:13:11,640 learn the name of a new receiver that Sean Payton has become 2230 02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:15,840 infatuated with like or Tyler Bidet is out there getting 2231 02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,040 Staffs, a wide receiver now who could have thought? 2232 02:13:18,040 --> 02:13:20,080 You know, he frustrated us in week 1 as a running back. 2233 02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:23,600 Now he's out there taking. So there's so much stuff where 2234 02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:27,200 it's scary. There's there's lots of ways to 2235 02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:31,040 like derail the Troy Franklin train from leaving the station. 2236 02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:35,240 But I think at least at this point, like the train is on the 2237 02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:39,600 tracks and you're just hoping that it continues on down over 2238 02:13:39,600 --> 02:13:42,080 the course. Here's what's interesting, I 2239 02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:44,760 don't know if there was an entry to Mims or something like this, 2240 02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:49,560 but Tri Franklin actually had more routes than Mervyn Mims 2241 02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:53,200 did. It was 65% from Franklin versus 2242 02:13:53,200 --> 02:13:58,200 63% for Mims. And, and while they do have, 2243 02:13:58,200 --> 02:14:02,280 they have the same A .88 and a half, yeah, Marvin Mims was like 2244 02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:06,320 mostly scam targets with then one big deep shot to like make 2245 02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:09,120 the average. Whereas Franklin was getting 2246 02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:13,520 mostly kind of intermediate stuff and then also better 2247 02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:16,560 earning after he got 21% targets per run. 2248 02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:22,520 So earning those targets better. And so I what I'm saying is I 2249 02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:25,720 actually, I agree with you that like, hey, Franklin is actually 2250 02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:28,040 firmly the number 2 receiver right now. 2251 02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:33,200 And that's not a that distinction is not helping you 2252 02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:39,240 win fantasy games right now. And we're hopeful that that he 2253 02:14:39,240 --> 02:14:42,800 expands that, especially as he continues to play well. 2254 02:14:43,040 --> 02:14:48,360 But yeah, I like your note that Sean Payton is that he's he's 2255 02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:52,640 prone to frustrate us. So he may do that here also, but 2256 02:14:52,880 --> 02:15:00,120 hopeful that Franklin's play continues to impress and get him 2257 02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:04,920 more playing time. Yeah, the only the only other 2258 02:15:04,920 --> 02:15:08,240 guy I actually quick note on Elama de Zacchaeus. 2259 02:15:08,240 --> 02:15:11,640 Elama de Zacchaeus is like currently occupying the role. 2260 02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:14,800 We would hope that Luther burden eventually takes over, right? 2261 02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:18,480 We'll see how long he hangs on to it. 2262 02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:21,840 He seems cromulent, you know, like he he's reasonable. 2263 02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:26,840 He he did fine. I would expect Burden to be able 2264 02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:31,200 to wrest that away from him. And then of course, we have to 2265 02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:35,040 talk about Jayden Reid. Jayden Reid setting all kinds of 2266 02:15:35,040 --> 02:15:38,240 records. First NFL player to play with a 2267 02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:40,080 Jones fracture. It's never happened before. 2268 02:15:40,280 --> 02:15:42,800 No one else has ever played with a Jones fracture. 2269 02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:45,880 First NFL player to catch a touchdown with a Jones fracture. 2270 02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:49,040 First NFL player to return a punt with a Jones fracture. 2271 02:15:49,320 --> 02:15:52,080 Most punt return yards by a player with a Jones fracture. 2272 02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:54,520 Most receptions by a player with a Jones fracture? 2273 02:15:54,800 --> 02:15:56,800 Draco. I'm starting to think maybe 2274 02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:58,960 Jaden Reed didn't have a Jones fracture. 2275 02:15:59,080 --> 02:16:02,800 Is it possible that the Packers radio host who said that he had 2276 02:16:02,800 --> 02:16:06,440 a Jones fracture may have not had correct information? 2277 02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:10,520 Right, that's what happened at this point, like I was a like it 2278 02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:13,480 it's a little worrying when you see I I was definitely worried 2279 02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:16,240 where you see that throne out there and it's like, hey, nobody 2280 02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:19,720 is ever able to play with this. And then I expanded like I did 2281 02:16:19,720 --> 02:16:27,560 like a search where I looked at where I, I did one of the the I 2282 02:16:27,560 --> 02:16:32,000 think it was Google or Twitter where I did like, Hey, give me 2283 02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:34,559 some comps of players that have played through drums factors and 2284 02:16:34,559 --> 02:16:41,120 it's like none exists. OK, expand this to expand this 2285 02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:44,440 to all sports ever. Has anybody ever played a 2286 02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:47,480 professional sport? And they're no, it cannot be 2287 02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:50,320 done. Like somebody tried in soccer 2288 02:16:50,639 --> 02:16:56,400 and they were unable to. Yeah, I, I did some similar 2289 02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:00,440 research where I, I found all of the instances of Jones fractures 2290 02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:04,840 that were reported in the league and then the prognosis and what 2291 02:17:04,840 --> 02:17:09,320 happened after the fact. Everyone either goes on IR, gets 2292 02:17:09,320 --> 02:17:12,000 season ending surgery. Like no one, no one plays in the 2293 02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:14,600 Jones fracture, Right, Right. Yeah, what a lot like. 2294 02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:17,719 The narratives that they were like, what if this is just a 2295 02:17:17,719 --> 02:17:20,520 crazy guy? Like he just has so much dog in 2296 02:17:20,520 --> 02:17:24,120 him that he's going to try and do it and, and, and, and you're 2297 02:17:24,120 --> 02:17:25,520 right. It's like, it's just like it's 2298 02:17:25,520 --> 02:17:30,559 an impossible thing, like. So, so yeah, one of my one of my 2299 02:17:30,559 --> 02:17:35,280 big takeaways this offseason is, you know, being a newshound 2300 02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:38,760 consuming the information is a very important part of the 2301 02:17:38,760 --> 02:17:42,200 process. Being able to successfully and 2302 02:17:42,200 --> 02:17:45,400 accurately parse the information and think critically about stuff 2303 02:17:45,959 --> 02:17:50,639 is such a huge advantage that you have over the vast, vast 2304 02:17:50,639 --> 02:17:54,400 majority of your competition. Like, again, we had people that 2305 02:17:54,400 --> 02:17:58,920 were saying Chris Rodriguez is actually the running back here. 2306 02:17:58,920 --> 02:18:01,600 He's the starting running back for the Commanders. 2307 02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:04,520 You buffoon. The coach said that Chris 2308 02:18:04,520 --> 02:18:07,240 Rodriguez could do stuff at the goal line. 2309 02:18:07,240 --> 02:18:10,799 Like just the ability to think critically and like pay 2310 02:18:10,799 --> 02:18:12,320 attention. Right critical time is so 2311 02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:14,400 important. And put together all the 2312 02:18:14,400 --> 02:18:18,160 evidence and and having. So and so said this is going to 2313 02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:20,520 happen. So therefore this isn't it. 2314 02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:27,360 Like Marvin Mims ran all the routes for for the the starters 2315 02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:29,879 in Denver pre season. So that's just how it's going to 2316 02:18:29,879 --> 02:18:32,040 go. Brock Bowers is the backup to 2317 02:18:32,040 --> 02:18:34,360 Michael Meyer. I don't know if you heard like 2318 02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:38,559 there's just, and, and the crazy thing is like the market reacts 2319 02:18:38,559 --> 02:18:41,920 on stuff like that. And like, so I feel like this 2320 02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:45,719 whole offseason, some of our largest advantages came from us 2321 02:18:45,719 --> 02:18:49,920 simply talking through situations like that and being 2322 02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:52,200 like, all right, what's a reasonable interpretation of 2323 02:18:52,200 --> 02:18:54,160 this? What it, what is the range of 2324 02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:56,360 outcomes, you know, given this information that we have? 2325 02:18:56,719 --> 02:18:59,799 And so many times I felt like I was watching discourse happen 2326 02:18:59,799 --> 02:19:03,959 around these things where we had logically deduced what the most 2327 02:19:03,959 --> 02:19:07,120 likely outcomes were. And not only were people like 2328 02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:10,840 not getting to what we thought the most likely outcomes were, 2329 02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:13,680 they were 180° in the wrong direction. 2330 02:19:13,680 --> 02:19:18,959 So just a, a little PSA that you can like, it does not take very 2331 02:19:18,959 --> 02:19:22,719 much to vastly, vastly beat your opponent's. 2332 02:19:22,719 --> 02:19:25,719 Like all you got to do is like spend a little bit of time and 2333 02:19:25,719 --> 02:19:27,480 think critically about the information that you're 2334 02:19:27,480 --> 02:19:30,440 consuming. Agreed. 2335 02:19:30,920 --> 02:19:35,000 And so I think that I think that finishes us for Week 1 and start 2336 02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:38,240 chasing. I had a great time as always and 2337 02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:40,280 that we'll we'll talk to everyone next week. 2338 02:19:42,920 --> 02:19:44,879 He's duck footed. He looks really weird when he 2339 02:19:44,879 --> 02:19:48,600 runs if it walks like a duck. Wasn't his run like compared to 2340 02:19:48,600 --> 02:19:50,880 like a duck and toad good, duck footed bad. 2341 02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:53,080 There's trouble. You call DW. 2342 02:19:53,960 --> 02:19:56,400 Duck, duck. Maybe it's a duck. 2343 02:19:56,400 --> 02:19:58,880 He's losing like a round of draft capital because of the 2344 02:19:58,880 --> 02:20:01,360 direction of this beat point. I'm taking the duck footed 2345 02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:03,400 discount. Would he be better if he wasn't 2346 02:20:03,400 --> 02:20:04,440 duck footed? Probably. 2347 02:20:04,440 --> 02:20:06,280 But like he just was happening offense. 2348 02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:07,880 I'm pretty sure he can fucking move. 2349 02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:11,080 You're right. The the running style is crazy. 2350 02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:12,600 Like Russell Wilson, it's not good. 2351 02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:20,360 Incredible clip. Have a great week everybody.