Hi everybody, I'm Mike Shope. Hello again from sunny Buffalo.
It's time for ADP. Chasing a little bit off
schedule this week, but you know, Davis is a Chiefs fan and
I am a Bills fan. We've got Pat, our heroes.
Pat and Davis are ready to talk championship games and some
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being with us. It is January 24th, 2025 and
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That's fair. This is a Dusvan show.
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degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys.
It's the most disgusting thing you can make, but man.
So first of all, in the Discord, I just wanted to mention that we
were on today because it's not Monday at 11 Eastern.
And I said, you know, we're just talking about the obvious topics
and some of the fellow Discord deposit Kingdom members had
some, you know, funny ideas for what obvious topics might be.
Justin Trudeau, Severance, you know Davis, I think if you had
to go in on a topic that isn't at all related to sports, you
and I have AI think a mutual interest in the rest is history
pod. Oh my goodness.
And the greatest podcast ever, probably.
Well, Hardcore history #1 but. I, I would say that I have
probably read, reread, watched, rewatched, listen to re listen
to more JFK assassination stuff than anybody, you know, maybe
not yourself. And now we've got, you know,
here comes the new president, like, oh, you know, everything's
thrown in the air. And we're going to release the
documents. I have an 850 page document to
read this weekend. I.
Hear. Yeah, and it's going to tell you
nothing. Nothing.
Yeah, we're not going to. Absolutely nothing.
I've got like 2 friends that I whose intelligence I value
highly and they're both like Oh my goodness this, this is your
thing. Here we go finally.
Like no there's no finally for 55 years or more people have
just thought that there was some conspiracy where there
definitely wasn't now. This is so sad.
I think it's I love how like contrarian and almost like gal
brain it is to be like, yeah, there wasn't a a conspiracy.
There's not. That's it.
It is. It does feel good that it's
contrarian, but it's obvious. Like how are we still talking
about this? Now here's the thing, like we
might get this is going to get our YouTube show cancelled
probably, but we're probably are going to get good information on
RFK and about what happened there, whatever they act.
Not RFK junior, but his dad. Oh yeah, OK.
Because do you know who killed RFK?
He was a Palestinian. So.
There there is. I think we're going to get the
full unabated, unedited information about who killed
RFKI. Don't know as.
Much about we have to go. I don't know as much about that
one, but that's not in question either.
Is that like sort of normal life is such a conspiracy?
Conspiracy theory hipster who's like JFK, yeah, that's cool
Conspiracy. But I'm more into RFK.
That's where I like. The truth is.
Out there, man, the truth is. Out there, the truth is out
there, that's true. Had If you had to go an hour on
something other than fantasy football, what would it be?
I could do it an hour in F1 pretty pretty easily.
I could do like an hour long F1 recap 2024 season recap show.
I could I could do that pretty easily that I I could also write
like F1. I'm following and I also like
kind of hate. I'm like starting to hate watch
F1. They're so European, they're
like, we wouldn't want to throw away a third place by trying to
win the race. That would be improper that.
Is so it? Is so go for first.
What is this sport even about if you're not trying to win?
But I love it. I watch it.
I watch every race. I watch all the races.
They're all trying to min cash, you're saying?
They're all trying to min cash. It's a min cash sport.
Oh my God, that's such a good way to put it.
Yeah, it's a bunch of min cashers.
Well, special edition here because Davis, it's your Chiefs
and my Bills. That's what the the thought
leaders are saying. Open seed bowl.
I think it's it's been it's been called both sides both both
sides are coping and seething Chiefs fans are are are pre
coping Bills fans are are pre coping preceding.
I mean, everyone is already Pat. They're already angry about the
pass interference or the roughing the passer penalty.
It's going to be called in the second quarter.
So Davis, we'll talk about this later with with Rota Pat when we
do our preview pod today. But on our preview pod last
week, Davis literally called exactly what was going to happen
with the penalty. He said third and 8th.
A ridiculous unnecessary roughness when he touched his
helmet. That's exactly.
What happened? You can't touch his helmet.
And honestly, I, I think I'm this is my most unpopular
opinion. Everyone's so sick of the Chiefs
that's it's actually poor coaching.
It's actually on to Miko Ryan's and whoever the Texans defensive
coordinator is. If you do not have it thrilled
into your guys all week, you touch, you touch Mahomes's
helmet, you're going this time line, you got to take a playoff,
he touched. Mahomes helmet for not knowing
they're going against the refs. It would be like, it would be
like if someone in the NBA was like, you know what I'm gonna do
every time LeBron goes in? I'm gonna touch Lebron's face
every time he goes to the paint and just hope it doesn't get
called. Like, you're gonna be accused of
manslaughter if you touch LeBron James's face on a drive.
So just don't do it. I'm going to be anywhere near
James Harden as he quadrupled double S dribbles his way to the
to the paint. Immediate, immediate foul and,
and, and in the NBA they do that.
The coaches are smart about that in the NBA.
In the NBA, they understand to not fight against the global
forces. In the NFL, these guys are such
hard OS, they don't believe in game theory at all.
So they're just like, no, we're playing him straight up.
We're treating Pat Mahomes the same as we would treat Blake
Bortles. They're the same guy.
That's on you and that's on you. Already this is a form of a JFK
assassination podcast. I think we're.
Honestly, the thing about this is Davis is right.
Davis is right. No, he is right.
They should coach differently as Mahomes, but that is so sad.
It's such an absurd place for the league to be that these
coaches like are. That, but but people are
treating this like, oh, it's a unique Mahomes thing.
This is a unique football. Thing no.
It's. Happened for happened.
Happened for Brady, Happens in the NBA.
Guess what? Jordan, Jordan, it was, it was
known with Jordan, all these guys.
Try and get rough with like Sidney Crosby or or Nathan
McKinnon more than you would for like a fourth line.
Well, Davis, did you see what just happened with McDavid this
week? Like he was just getting, he was
just getting absolutely destroyed in a game against
Vancouver and the game ended. He finally just snapped and got
a three-game suspension. And the guy who did it was like,
well, of course, I mean, he's the best.
What am I supposed? To do literally oh God, it's
just been so triggering like obviously I want the chiefs to
win. I don't want them to win because
of penalties, although it's I'm not certainly going to apologize
if they get every call like but I what I Mike, this is what I
find annoying about it. It just if you're base point is
the Chiefs only win because of the referees, then you just need
to re evaluate some things in your life.
You just you just got to re evaluate because there's a
reason why these guys have kicked everyone's ass for six
years, seven straight conference championships.
Brother, you, you think, you think the referee and also of
all the teams to get a global conspiracy going for them.
I know. The.
It's a team from Missouri, dude. This is a.
Historical backwater, I know. Like maybe vote for The Jets.
Can we maybe get can we maybe get the literal marquee
franchise in the biggest city in the country?
Can we maybe get some calls for The Jets?
I know. Speaking.
Of has has ties to a former and current president like that
should be, you would think. Oh, we're so locked in here.
Speaking of hockey and hope that doesn't get us turned off.
But that when I've been on the air so long, when Crosby, when
the lottery for Crosby happened and there was a cancelled season
before. So they just sort of came up
with some algorithm to, you know, base it on your previous
few years. Pittsburgh won and I was just
getting all this, well, it's obviously rigged.
We were, you know, still not too far away from Patrick Ewing.
So yeah, that that's how I would rig it, too.
If I were the NHLI would put Sidney Crosby in Pittsburgh, PA,
that's exactly what I would do, too.
That's the market I would want him in for the next 20 years.
Makes sense it's a conspiracy themed show already.
You're you're with, you're with the right guy, man, I.
Mean So what? What did the NFL script say?
You guys, do you guys believe? It the same thing it says.
It says it's Buffalo's turn. That's what it says.
What is this? X-Files action figure This is
got molded. Blares and blinded.
This is Fox Molder with the aliens from The X-Files movie.
This right here is the alien in In Ice from.
Now, is that like it's the original packaging?
Is it a collector's item? Absolutely.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Oh. Yeah, it's also sitting right
next to him. I keep.
I keep Mulder. With me always, You can't even
reach your guitar from where you're sitting.
I mean, he's got Mulder right there.
And that's just in case it comes, I think.
Oh, I I think the most popular narrative for this game is that
it's the bill's turn. Yeah, and and I think the the
ref stuff has been pretty loud and you guys see these like
Warren Sharp drives this, you see these stats about the
referees who are not even working with their full crews
this week. But you know, this guy, you
know, throws the most flags against the home team.
This guy, the home team went fourteen and three against the
spread in his games. Whatever it is, think about if
you were an official and you're doing your job perfectly
honestly, there are going to be, you guys know this, anybody
does. There are going to be, there's
going to be a range of outcomes. And somebody, if they're all
working honestly, which I assume they are, and somebody's going
to be 14 and three home team against the spread and
somebody's going to be 3 and 14, you know, home team against the
spread. And if I knew, we had an
interesting conversation on WGR about this yesterday with my Co
host Bulldog. If if I knew, if I was the ref
and I knew those stats, it would be like in my head to correct
it. So now I'm working with you.
You're a radio guy, but I never realized that the depths of it
that you have a Co host named Bulldog.
That is as sports talk radio. As it gets.
Like it does not give talk. Radio, Yeah.
Yeah, I'll bring him. On Bulldog I'll.
Bring him on. So you didn't know that.
OK, well, that's fine. OK, Still wouldn't.
Wouldn't you want to fix that? I mean, not quote fix.
Wouldn't you want to? Sort of not have anybody think
that you're not doing an honest job because the home teams win
when you ref. Here's a Here's a larger point I
would find that frustrating. That hangs over all of this.
That hangs over conspiracy talk. That hangs over bad call, good
call, whatever. We are in a crisis of competency
in the United States of America. Basically, no one's good at
their jobs, myself included. No one, really.
At. The highest at the highest at
the highest level to the lowest level.
We have a crisis of competency. Kids can't read.
People are doing their jobs inappropriately.
It to think that an NFL referee just has this all mapped out.
To think that anyone has this all mapped out like Mike I I
grant. I think we have a crisis of
everyone in each other's business.
That's what I think. I think there's like a bunch of
opinions about my brother works for the SEC.
He's like had to hear about all this stuff, you know, like, oh,
no one's doing a job. He's like, what?
What the fuck do you know about what I do?
I don't know shit, right? I think it's we are all in each
other's business. Get out of each other's
business. Do you stay in your own lane a
little bit? How about that?
Bobby Slowick just got fired. We we all thought we all thought
Bobby Slowick was a genius last year.
Bobby Slowick just got fired. Well, except for the NFL.
We should. We should comment what are we
say whatever we want about their job performance.
Davis, what were you going to say?
What were you going to say a minute ago about?
That, that, that you sure you could come into the game being
like, oh, everyone thinks we're going to give the Chiefs the
benefit of the doubt. I better cry.
And then you get in the game and you're like, dude, it's my
adrenaline's going crazy. I got to pay attention to this.
I got to pay attention to that. Andy Reid's in my ear.
Mcdermott's in my ear. Mahomes is waddling up to me
like he always does, being like, hey, come on, man, they're
really playing me really rough. Like, I don't like that.
Like there's just too much going on.
I just don't believe any of this shit at all.
I I literally don't believe refereeing conspiracies at all
in any sport. I just, I just think it is,
guess what? It's pretty easy to call a foul
on LeBron James or Patrick Mahomes because they're Patrick
Mahomes or LeBron James. You think that a referee doesn't
get starstruck? You think that this literal
senior citizen volunteer? Because that's what referees
are. They're not full time employees.
You, you think that this person is immune to star power?
Insane. Insane.
Well, last week we talked about, I agree with that Bill Vinovich
talk, talking to Alan on the sideline, you know, and people
wanted to know what what that was.
Of course, this is one thing we know about professional sports
scorecasters. What is home field advantage?
It's the refs, it's the ref because there's a positive
reinforcement. Basketball is like the driving
thing I think here. Which sport where you want to
please the crowd? You got these refs now notice
like it's Clete Bakeman, Blakeman.
And yes, I know who the ref is for Bill's Chiefs Blakeman, who
I don't know if he has a nickname Pat, but he's one of
these like half the refs in the league pause after they say
holding for like an extra beat before they tell you offense or
defense. Why are they doing that to?
Make sure they get. Their reaction?
No, I. Think it's to.
Make sure they get the number right.
No, they don't need the extra time.
It's to get a reaction from the crowd one way or another.
Holding. They're they're part.
They're part. Of the show.
You know what, you're right. They're part of the.
Show they're part of the show. I mean, part of the show.
The further side go on the Mahome stuff is that the league
clearly, clearly does not want quarterbacks getting hurt.
That's the thing. The league is devastated when
these quarterbacks go out. They change the rules.
You go through, you go through a guy's knee, change the rule, get
concussion issues. We're changing the rule.
We're not letting this happen, OK?
The refs know that. They've been drilled on that.
They also know Patrick Mahomes is the biggest star at the
quarterback position in the league, and they're just going
to hedge on protecting him, That's how.
Guess what, all you fucking Chiefs haters?
You know what you really don't want to see in the FEC
conference championship? You don't want?
Carson Wentz, let me tell you that you don't want.
And you know what? You don't want to see Mitch
Trubisky either. You don't want to see Kenny
Pickett. You don't want to see Marcus
Mariota. None of you guys want that.
Maybe, maybe Bill's fans, maybe one segment of America wants.
To see you have three number two overall picks by the way there
you could have gotten them gotten four straight, you have 3
#2 picks that standing as the backups in these games.
Now I, I will say that that, you know, the lack of respect for
Jared Goff is, is striking that they, they, we could give a shit
to Jared Goff for him. He made himself.
He made himself a football player after.
That no, no, no, no, no. They went to the head and neck
area. That that's the rule.
You can't. You can't blast the quarterback
on a pick six. You're not allowed.
They did that for the should have been like the season.
Should have been a 15 yard penalty on that guy.
Absolutely. You guys, you guys were saying
earlier like, why rush the passer?
Kind of thinking about the Texans.
What is this game if neither team, if both teams decided just
not to rush the passer? I mean, you have Chris Jones.
Kansas City has Chris Jones. Somehow, somehow it will be more
boring than. It's, it would be more boring.
Yeah, it would be so boring. Mahomes, you know, Mahomes is
sitting back in a clean pocket and dumping off just like 4
yards and it's like. Tamaje, Tamaje.
Are you open, brother? Yeah, yeah.
I don't know. It's half fake.
Three yards down, fields coming across.
The the bill do not get to Mahomes and you can get to Allen
all you want, but he's still going to run by you.
So I don't know like. You don't.
You don't think they can get to him?
The Bills? Mahomes.
Not really how? Optimistic are you?
Are you are you worried that the Bills are about to lose?
I I well, I'll keep it in the conspiracy boat.
I think the Bills winning is a better story.
Oh, for sure, yeah. Agree, but they're not going to
have Taylor rapid safety. They might get Benford, their
best corner guy, cover guy back, but he's still a concussion
protocol and missed today for a personal reason.
And Milano's not 100% they they since the 2020 AFC Championship
when they drafted Rousseau and Boogie Basham after that, the
Bills have been trying to get to him and they can't do it in
these playoff games. They've not been able to do it.
Why would Sunday be different? So I think the props on Mahomes
being as high as they are, 255 1/2 passing over 1 1/2
touchdowns -175 like these are above his averages.
I think the betting systems are saying Mahomes is going to have
a day, and I think Allen can have one too.
I would not bet against either guy in this game.
But I think the Bills on defense have a problem.
And that is a question for Davis because Kansas City's offense
and its struggles, that's been so much of the talking point
throughout the season. I don't know, like, is it that
you made the Hollywood Brown point a few times?
Is it better now? Yeah.
Well, it turns out that was absolute bullshit.
Well, it what it wasn't in the sense of it almost.
Was. So was the House Select.
So was the House select Commission on Assassinations?
OK, this is this is the Chiefs plan.
Kelsey, you're Gray on 1st down, Worthy or Brown on 2nd down.
Kelsey or Gray on 3rd down. If we don't get it and it's
fourth and one, we'll do a terrible pitch play that has no
chance he'll get the ball. If that doesn't work, then we'll
go Kelsey on 1st down, Kelsey on 2nd down, Worthy on 3rd down.
I I the thing, the thing I'm hoping and praying is that they
just, they say, Pacheco, you've been a great servant to the
club. You, you literally can't play.
You, you have no juice. Yeah.
You can't. What's going on?
Is he hurt? They've just, well, I mean, he
had the same injury that Pollard had that made Pollard bad a year
later and he's playing on it 10 weeks later.
Like he just, he's got, I mean, they get the, they get the 60
yard punt or kick return from Remigio.
They get an extra 15 yards because the defensive player
lost his mind. And then they run twice and they
do a dumb these dumb pass plays where they have one of the wide
receivers run a corner route that Mahomes doesn't trust them.
So he never puts it in. You see this by the way, with
Mahomes. He doesn't trust the guys to win
these corner routes. So he puts it way high and it's
it's not even close. So they just are dead on 3rd and
eight. If Kelsey can't get open.
They just they just got it. They just got it.
Say Pacheco, you got they. Is McKinnon available?
Can we get him to do some crunches?
Can we get, can we get him off the couch?
Is it, can you sign a guy 48 hours before a playoff game?
I might, I might take, I might take McKinnon right now.
Would you go over on Mahomes rushing?
Because all those plays to me sound like he's just going to
take off. Gold mega mega giga Gold Star
for it should be the line. Should be like 6 1/2 brush
attempts in this game I think. I think Yards is 25 1/2 and I
still want to go over that. You can't take those because the
Chiefs hate fantasy football players.
They do the deep kneel. I know he he won.
I won a Super Bowl bet on that the first year.
He he lost 13 yards on a kneel once.
Like you, just you, you're, you're set.
You're setting, you're setting. They hate fantasy football so.
Much that they really do. 13 yards on a kneel is such a
middle finger. Yeah, the first Niners Super
Bowl, he went way over his rushing prop and I had the under
and he went like -15 yards or something on three plays to end
that game or something, whatever that was.
So it came back as a win. Ben, how do you feel about?
It is Leonard Fernett available. We yeah, that's a ball's life.
He's a marker, Lenny. Yeah, man, I, I don't know, I, I
think the Chiefs this year have been like significantly worse
than last year and we could see them come alive in this game.
I never want to bet against Mahomes, you know, to, to kind
of put the team on his back. He, you know, the throw last
week where he's like doing the fall forward and you know he's
still got the magic. He's still, that's the thing
that's so annoying is he? Clearly it is not his diminished
ability that is doing all of this.
It's everyone around him. Right, But I think that like, So
what the Bills were able to do last week was they were able to
kind of get the the Ravens off script and you know, they're
having to come back and that's not really their game.
The Bills are a little too conservative for my liking.
I wish they were. They just put more put it more
on how like I think their best path is to be like, let's have a
shootout. Do you guys still remember how
to do that? Because it seems like you
forgot. Let's see if you remember, and I
don't I don't trust Joe Brady to do that.
I think he's going to, you know, try to establish it and ball
control it a little too much. Like I think at this point,
Allen, given the situations on both teams can out duel Mahomes.
If they both peddle to the floor it it'll Allen wins.
And my my big concern is if the bills feel that way too, because
I'm not sure they do. So I.
They don't they've they've beaten this team four years in a
row in the regular season. They came out of last year
having run the ball too much, whatever.
And then they went, they're 15 and 4:00.
They have not lost the turnover battle in 19 games this year,
not once, which is incredible. That's an NFL record and they
are going to try to outweighs you, which for me has always
been, we've talked all season, this has been the dilemma with
this team for me all year is like, I wouldn't want to do
that. I wouldn't want to, you know,
lean on James Cook to score 16 rushing touchdowns and just
expect to win turnovers every week.
I liked them last week because we've seen for as great as he
is, Lamar Jackson make those mistakes.
It happened again. The Ravens went for seven yards
per play in that game. They just came off a season
where they were historically great, just almost 7 yards per
play. They did it and they turned the
ball over three times to none and they lost by two points.
Every team in the divisional round that gained more yards
lost. Yeah, and all the winning teams
had no turnover. Speaking Speaking of playoff
basketball, by the way, every team that gained more yards lost
is certainly reflected in My Portfolio.
You wouldn't move to that. Well, I, I think if you, if you
take all three possible opponents of the Chiefs this
week, I would, I, I'd be, I think I would prefer the
commanders. If you say someone has to beat
the Chiefs, I think I would take the commanders as, as my team
because I trust how they're going to play like they're going
to come. They would come in and be like,
we're going to score on you on every drive, just like we did to
the Lions. Let's see if you can deal with
that. And they would play, I think a
little bit of ball control in a sense like they did against the
Bucks. But you know, with a, with an
offense that's going for and on 4th, that's playing
aggressively, that's leaning on their quarterback, it's taking
shots down field. I think obviously Allen is still
better than Daniels, as good as Daniels is, but I just don't
have as much faith in their ability or not their ability,
their willingness to play aggressively, which is I think
what you need to do against the Chiefs.
Yeah, Well, I would just say the bottom line again is they good
and I think probably do have every reason to think they can
win, being who they are and who they are is 6 offensive lineman
and they'll bully you that they weren't supposed to be able to
beat Baltimore that way. They did.
So why wouldn't they go to Kansas City thinking they can be
themselves? And if they get behind, that's
true of anybody, then, you know, you have to scramble.
But I, I think that's, I just, it's been such an interesting
year here. I hope they get down a little
bit and open things up and see it and see that it's working and
that maybe we get because I don't know if you can tell.
I want the Bills to win this game.
I think it would be very fun to have Josh Allen finally get to
the Super Bowl. I like, I like Josh Allen a lot.
I like Mahomes a lot, too. But I mean, Davis, you just said
it seven straight. I would enjoy going to new.
Orleans, have a turn, please. I.
Would enjoy going to New Orleans myself.
Would you go? Would you be there?
Yeah, I'll be there if they win. OK, ADP.
Chasing from New Orleans? Absolutely radio row here.
Here's the here's the other thing, like the the bills, that
passing element you're talking about.
Look at the the receiving props after Shakur, whose floor and
ceiling are like the same. And then you have Kincaid.
You've got six other guys who come in at 1 1/2 catches,
including Amari Cooper and Keon Coleman.
And if Josh Allen finally for this season in the AFC
Championship with the Super Bowl on the line and Mahomes on the
other side of the field, like he he goes off in my mind in this
game and I want to be on everybody.
Then over 1 1/2 catches. What is what are two catches?
I mean, Curtis Samuel Cooper, they traded for Cooper.
You wouldn't want to make that look good.
They traded their draft pick. They traded their draft pick and
the Chiefs use it on Worthy and I've got Coleman.
You wouldn't want to make that look good too.
So if Allen has one of those days, I just I want all of that.
Give me two catches or more on all those.
Guys, did they trade? What did they trade for Cooper?
Like nothing. They traded, was it a third
maybe for Cooper, But they traded their pick to Kansas
City, which used it to draft Worthy, right?
And then they ended up with Coleman.
So there's another thing. Oh, Coleman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get. You.
Well, there it is. Kincaid, man, first round pick.
You know he's just been killing it, dude.
Kincaid, dude. This is like when you go and
skid tell the the easiest way to tell like what a team should do
in a fourth down situation is what the opposite team wants
them to do. Just do the opposite of that.
And this is this is kind of like that work.
Don't use Kincaid a lot because you got a hardcore Chiefs fan
who's like Kincaid. Dude, I mean you spent a first
round pick on him like I think we need like some screens really
try and work him up the. Slot versus Justin.
Reed and Tranquil I I really like his spot and match.
Up. I so wish.
I so wish CEH were still on the Chiefs right now for that point.
So. Let me tell you what I.
Don't want? Number one thing I don't want is
I don't want them to be like, maybe we should just like give a
Mark Cooper like three chances down the field on like some 2nd
and sevens. Let me tell you, I don't I don't
want Joe Brady to wake up and be like, let's just have Mark
Cooper go run on a straight line and and see if Josh can throw
the ball over those mountains that that feels like worst case
scenario. I would.
Love that for the Kansas City chase.
Yeah, the Bills. The Bills run it on 2nd and
three. It's, it's, that's, that's the
mark of, of what has really changed in the NFL is there's no
more of those, oh, we could do a play action and take a shot
here. Teams don't even think about
that anymore. There's like, Nope, keep the
chains moving. Three yards and three plays.
You you do have, I don't even think Francis here in the
comments is a a Chiefs fan, but he is rooting for you.
He hopes they go 3 feet. Francis also says he's a big
Bulls fan. Cowboys.
Fan. Warriors.
He likes the Bulls and the
Warriors. Here's a here's an interesting
question then. So then let's say, let's say the
the Bills do win and they win next week then or in the Super
Bowl. What's the narrative next year
when this happens again? When it's Ravens, Bills, Chiefs
as the big three and the AFC? But then who are people rooting
for? So does all does it all go to
the Ravens or have we all decided that?
We're just going to just happen. I think what could happen is
that people could turn against the Bills and Ravens as like yet
you're not able to do it. But but it won't be for the
Chiefs. Then if the Chiefs win again, it
will. Everyone will be rooting as
Chiefs and it'll be like the next young guy, like a Herbert,
like someone like that. Maybe Burrow is going to have
his chances too. Burrow.
Burrow would be that stuff. Oh, there is no, there's no more
wish casted player. On We would hold up Burrow as
our hero. It's it's Joe Burrow's time.
Give him the chance. He he'll he's beaten them, he's
beaten them in the playoffs, he'll do it.
That's what would happen. We would turn our hopes to A to
a new. Hero I I did see, I did see an
insanely good tweet yesterday. I tried to find it.
I couldn't find it comparing the fourth quarter records of Andy
Dalton and Joe Burrow in terms of like fourth quarter comebacks
and EPA and stuff. And it's like Dalton just like
blows, blows him away just like smokes him.
And I just it's, it was one of those things like you can always
tell a lie with stats, but it I just, I was just like, wow, that
is definitely like if you tweeted that you'd get shadow
bands like if I doing that from my account.
I had a minute a couple weeks ago where I was just feeling
feisty. You're trying to get the show
going and like, you know, if you look at Bo Nicks and Josh Allen,
I don't see fourth quarter comebacks here this year.
I mean, MVP favorite, another guy here who's done this, this,
this. They're pretty much better.
But you know, that came and went well.
Good luck, Davis. Do you really want?
I respect, by the way, Francis, the point that there's there is
a reason to want to see a team make history.
You know, I, I like that. To see a team dominate.
Also Francis, a big Verstappen fan in F1.
Is the Tiger Woods his favorite golfer?
Of course you know. Big Warren.
Commission guy, Hey. Hated hated VJ.
Big Warren Commission Guy Francis.
Warren Commission. It's a little bit out of reach,
but the Warren Report, Davis is right there.
You want me to get it? I will prove it to you.
It's you have molder, right? Is that the word, the name
Molder. I've got molder.
I've got the Warren Report right there on the other side of the
bar. Best ball.
What? What do you got?
Pat? You and I were chatting last
night. I've got a fun one that I've
shared if you want it. Yeah.
In the Gauntlet. I'll bring yours up here.
So this is Shook's gauntlet team I've seen.
So there's kind of like a chalky builds that is like Mahomes
Saquon. I've got a Mahomes Saquon
gauntlet team through but it doesn't have I think I don't
know who else. I don't think it has Pacheco.
It's basically this team but worse because it doesn't have
Saquon the. One you showed me here.
In Hollywood, that's Hollywood. It has Kelsey Worthy, Hollywood,
Saquon Mahomes. That's the only five players it
has. Then I have a team that got
through that's like Jayden Daniels Mahomes, but it doesn't
have Saquon. So it's got like Robinson
Mclaurin. I think worthy.
So chop has like both of my two teams that advance combined into
one team, which is pretty sweet. And I've seen some versions of
teams like this. But this probably the best
gauntlet team I've seen. Let us know if you guys in chat
any anything better than this. But this team's nice because you
know it's live for two different Chief Super Bowls.
You almost hope that Saquon has like a quiet game and an Eagles
win or that he goes nuts and the Eagles loss.
No, no, he's hoping, he's hoping that this it's like a big Jalen
Hurts game or something. Yeah, like and and the
Commanders have to go nuts in in garbage time or he's hoping for
Eagles defensive touchdowns actually is what he's rooting
for. Hertz is the I pretty much the
only guy I have to worry about in the whole pod.
There is no Josh Allen, there are no A.J.
Brown or Devante Smith shares in the entire pod.
There are two Hertz teams. If I had not been shamed by
Peter earlier, like, oh, I'm not going to go through.
Will somebody do this for me, then I will not.
So I will not show you a spreadsheet that I made with the
rest of the the field. I I, I just want to keep some
self respect here. But it there's a Hertz got her
team with Hunt that I think is my biggest threat.
And then there's another, there are a couple of Bills guys
scattered around. But you know, with the Bills,
Cook is the only guy that sort of could probably dominate.
And I'm not seeing that that team's a little bit.
There's there's two other teams that could could win.
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Charles says he's in in my
pot. I I'm in a tough pot with the
team. I said Saquon.
I have Saquon in Mahomes. I'm in a pretty tough pot in
that one. Good luck to Charles Francis
also got us pretty good. His ship chasing fandom bounces
out all his other chalk. That's at he absolutely just
that is that is Mortal Kombat finish him that is.
Hold on that. Is pretty good, So yeah, but I I
think you know, this team is pretty sweet, Pretty sweet.
Thanks. I'm excited.
I, I have a team I'll share here that I got through on DK.
I mentioned the two gauntlets I have, but the team I'm most
excited about is a team in the main DK contest where it's
commanders Bills. So partly you know my heart's
with the Bills because this team would be super live for first
place on DK if you know it can get through.
I don't know my pod DK doesn't show your pods.
You know the contest isn't live yet.
We're not allowed to see the other rosters.
What if? New streets.
Yeah, so, but you know, Bill's
Bill's commander Super Bowl, I'm feeling pretty good about this
team with with Shakur, Ty Johnson, Knox and then the.
Four Commander's pieces, that's better in a vacuum, right?
That's better in a vacuum, right?
To have the Bills and not the Chiefs at this point based on
like teams that have been eliminated already or no?
Yeah, I think like if you're telling me that I'm going to get
to the final with both teams live, I would pick the Bills.
Like the Bills would be my number one pick for a for a team
to have right now because they've been so hard to advance.
Harder than to advance than a team that has scored one
touchdown in two weeks of postseason play.
Well, Kelsey was a big advance rate piece.
He's the only one, though. Like who's the advance rate
piece on the on the bills? So far.
Allen, Ty. Johnson, Shakur.
Ty Johnson week one a little, but that's now Shakur.
I mean, Shakur scored 12 points last.
Week Curtis Samuel Curtis Samuel had the the what did he have
like 20 in week? One Denver, Yeah, they they had
three catches. One, but you, you didn't, you
didn't get anything from the bills.
You you got nothing just just by pure process of elimination,
getting zero points from the Chiefs in Week 1.
Mahomes was the lowest scoring quarterback in the divisional
round, fewer than Stroud. You got one player on the team
with over 11 points, Kelsey. That's it.
Just by just by sheer because the thing that you get.
What you're missing, Davis, is that that a lot of those teams
that got through with Chiefs have the Commanders.
Yeah. Like mine, How did you get to
the commanders? You're much more likely to get
to the commanders with the Chiefs to cover the buy.
This team has it because I because I had the Lions, but you
had to have. Well, wouldn't.
Wouldn't they occur with the rough bills?
Commanders occur roughly the same frequency as Chiefs
commanders. No, because because you're
definitely drafting a second quarterback with the with the
Chiefs, but you're only drafting a second quarterback with the
Bills if you went Lions, unless you're just drafting second
quarterbacks for the fun of it. But but teams that are built
like we build are gonna have a much greater frequency of a
second quarterback with Mahomes than with Alan.
They were similar in sort of the price points on everybody.
I mean, Alan was one O 1 and Mahomes was cheaper than that.
But Mahomes, Kelsey, Alan Cook, and then do anything you want
later on, just do anything you want.
Is there eagles? By the way, I think the counter
might be eagles passing game stuff.
If you if you said you could have anything, I I would also, I
think eagles passing game. Now you have to believe that it
can put a point in the future, which is a it's just a debate.
But having the that's probably the ultimate leverage is is
eagles like Hertz stacks. Yeah, that Hertz Goddard scares
me in that one. Otherwise, really nothing does.
Davis is there if we can go back to Kansas City for a second,
like is there a guy that isn't Kelsey that you think is ready
to pop here in this game? Is it obviously worthy?
Does it have to be like I? I like the Hopkins idea a little
bit over 2 1/2 catches Veteran. I have him to score a touchdown.
Is that just dead or is that something that's kind of latent?
Hollywood, like Wally, pipped him.
He ran 72% of the rods last week and he did.
On the story of Chief season. He had a 50 yard perception in
his hands and then just I guess was like.
So we're going back to that. We're going back to that then.
I just, I don't know, I'm so like in a, in a win where there
was never a point of sweat, like at no point was I like, oh, the
Texans might win this game. Can we just this is the annoying
thing. This is the the thing.
It's joyless football. It's it's brutalist Eastern
European. We're better, stronger and
smarter than you and we don't have to use all parts of our
brains or our bodies to beat you.
We beat you by the sheer factor of being smarter, better and
more prepared and we don't need to do anything more than the
absolute bare minimum to beat you.
Remember when Mahomes threw the behind the back pass in the
preseason to Kelsey? That was the highlight of their
season. Too, I I didn't think we were
going to get Davis calling for the fall of the Berlin Wall on I
Am. It's the Kansas Slavic Chiefs
suddenly. Yes, yes, this is they're,
they're, they basically have the same ethos as as like a Russian
handball team. Imagine how like how like a
Russian. Handball team?
No, I guess not. Russian.
Are you accusing them of steroid use?
What are you saying? Ruthless efficiency.
I'm I'm yes, that is what I am accusing them of ruthless
efficiency, winning for the sake of winning.
Like basically like to to cause the Chiefs used to be
entertained. Rough show for Europe today.
Rough. Show for Europe today.
They they just, they, they, they show up, they clock in like you,
you get the, you get the sense that like Carson Steele goes
home and his girlfriend asked him how work was and he's like,
I was fine, you know, do. You think they have the players
clocking out like in an old factory, an old steel mill?
You guys need a punching in and out.
Like literally a literal, a literal time clock.
You know, like a literal like, like Mahomes just like, has to
like get his check signed. He has to go.
He has to go to Vecha's office. All right, I'm leaving.
I'm going home to my kid I named Bronze for some reason.
Is. It like a Russian bureaucrat
they'll have to check in with. Yes, yeah, they all, they all
get, they all get, they all to get their, you know, they all
get weighed and they have to test and everything and yeah.
Well, on behalf of the. Offense before they can get out
on the field. On behalf of that rest of the
country, I think I can. I can safely say we're all
rooting for that. Yeah, that sounds great.
It's. At 6:30 Eastern, it's so late
I'd like. To tell you guys that you may
not be aware of this, there is another game this weekend.
It's between the Washington Commanders and the Philadelphia
Eagles. I don't know if you guys have
any costs. On that, somehow the Eagles
might be more Slavic and severe than the Chiefs like.
Somehow very severe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like that is a team that has not ever been a joyous team.
I mean that that was the game last week where I would think
like they. Hated Andy Reid, That's I grew
up in near Philly, very close to Philly.
Everyone where I grew up, sequels, fans were like a suburb
of Philly. They hated him.
Andy Reid. Well, he he has.
I'll say one thing about Andy Reid.
He's learned a lot because he basically used to be like the
worst clock management time. Management guy.
Of all time, Yeah. That's true.
I think the bills and the Eagles, especially the Eagles
really enjoyed home field last week.
You know, Philadelphia getting the Rams across the country
short week in the cold. That's a very winnable game for
Lai mean very winnable game. So I I want to I want to get
into the Washington vibes. I I don't know that it makes
sense +6 but if Daniel Daniels is like you, you guys last
night, Pat, I'm sorry. That shows at 3:00 Eastern now,
which is thanks, by the way. That's my my show is on.
But you know, Ben talking about what what you guys all talking
about what Daniels is going in the next year and like future
MVP, this kind of thing. He so looks the part.
Would you really want to bet against him in this spot against
Hertz and A.J. Brown is reading and these big
Barkley runs. I could get talked into
Washington pretty easily. Who Who has the better
quarterback? Commanders Washington has the
better quarterback. Who has who has the better
offensive and defensive line, The better cornerback, the
better running back, the better linebackers, the better
safeties, the better kicker, the better punter.
They're the the the Eagles. The Eagles like if you sorted by
like PFF, like blue chip players or like PFF players graded above
90, the Eagles probably lead like not only football this
year, but maybe football in like the last like five years.
It it like just start in your head.
Just start cataloging guys who are amongst the best at their
position. So you've got the two tackles,
you've got the guard whose name I forget, you've got Jalen
Carter, you've got Bond, you've got Mitchell, you've got Cooper
to Jean and Reid Blankenship. Like that's before getting to
Saquon or I don't know, like we don't pass very often, but when
we do, we throw to fucking A.J. Brown.
When when we do feel the need to occasionally drop back and pass,
we go, who's that guy over there?
Maybe the 4th best wide receiver in the whole league.
And if he's not open, we've got a Heisman winner on the other
side. I mean, I just it, it is Howie
Roseman has put together a roster that can win AD minus
Hertz game, which they just did. And Hertz often will have B -, B
plus games. Have you gotten to this level,
Davis, with where you're you're actually this is the the the
late Brady stage where now you. Hertz is a better fit for their
roster than Pat, actually. Like the Eagles could
conceivably say, we would have to rework kind of our whole
philosophy to get Mahomes is our quarterback.
They're, they're built around having a £250 Wrecking Ball who
can't be stopped from 4 yards away.
They, they're, they're built to have these 13 play drives where
the defense is just like, it's this a very funny thing.
If you watch Eagles drives, watch by like the 8th play.
Watch how often the defensive lineman or the linebackers on
the opposing team asked to be subbed out just like what, after
a Barkley run, look at look at the defensive tackle looking
toward the sideline, asking if he can be subbed out because
it's just miserable. You're just getting you're
you're gassed. And then you're like, Oh my God,
Barkley's not going to get the ball this play.
And then you have to try and tackle Jaylen Hertz and you're
just like, Oh my God. It is an interesting style of
team because they are like they're kind of a ground and
pound that could grind you down as you're saying.
But the 13 plate drive is like boring and then like a 60 yard
touchdown. Like it's not, it's not actually
that They're just like steadily charging down the field all the
time. It's like they kind of do that
and then they're just like and the drive's over.
We win touchdown, so it's. That's, that's such a good
point, Pat. They can, they can both punch
you in the face repeatedly and ask you to say uncle.
And then if you won't say uncle, they just run a pitch play to
Saquon where he beats your safety.
That's what makes them so tough is that they're actually
explosive. They, they're just like, you
think they're like the Jeff Fisher Titans, Eddie George is
getting like 2 yards of carry or whatever.
Like, no, they're not. They they kind of can be for a
minute, but then it's going to lead to them ultimately ripping
off a long touchdown at some point in the game and probably
more than once. And then, yeah, they can they
can pivot off of that. The the thing for me is, is
Hertz healthy enough to where they actually have that pivot?
That that is and that is like unknowable like I, it's it seems
like I if I had to guess, I would honestly guess no, that
he's not he he he looked bad in the in the snow and.
Then the next question is how close can Jayden Daniels be
against a much, much better Eagles defense than Lions?
How close can he be to what we saw last week?
Because if we get anything close to that guy, he can, he can put
up enough points like the Eagles are not built to score, you
know, 35 points. They're they're they're built to
score 20 something points quite easily, but like they, they're
relying on the run game, especially if Hertz isn't
healthy so. He, he threw 5 touchdown passes
on them on December 22nd. Like I, it's a very, it's a
vibes take, but he's dropping balls into the Mclaurin bucket
and he's hitting Zach Ertz 852 and two or something in this
game. Just, I don't know, I I don't
love Washington, but I'd like it.
I like it too. Philadelphia, I think brings
everything you're saying, both saying is right about their
their roster. But there are enough questions
there for me. They've they've never been
undeniable. This year.
It was Detroit's year and then it was Minnesota and Eagles sort
of lurk there. The Bills, the AFC winner, will
be favored in the Super Bowl no matter what.
We know that at this point, unless something goes wrong,
like there's an injury or something on Sunday.
Oh no, I don't. I don't think so.
Two weeks to recover for Hertz, it's they have a chance.
I think, I think Eagles, Eagles come out, handle them easily.
Everyone's like ah, Jane Daniels, good stuff.
Jalen Hurts has 60 rushing yards and a touchdown.
I think it's Eagles 2 1/2, probably against either team.
Of course, Sunday can change it. The early lines have Buffalo -1
1/2 against Philadelphia and Kansas City would be would be
greater. Before we wrap.
Pat, you were talking yesterday at the 3:00 Eastern episode of
the offseason time of ship chasing that you're in the lab.
Legendary upside. What?
What does the lab look like? We're talking about next year.
You're, well, you're well into that.
Not to be redundant or have you repeat anything that just
mentioned yesterday, but maybe one or two interesting things
you're noticing. If we want to, I mean, the show,
the show's ADP chasing, I don't know if you guys want to talk a
little ADP, we've got. I've never done that.
Yeah, I guess that's true. Have we ever?
We've never talked ADP with show.
What does it stand for? Let's give it a whirl.
What is ADP? Yeah, the security brand.
What is ADP? That's right.
Yeah. It's I believe it helps finance
companies deal with their finances.
I think you get your tax statement from ADP.
The the ADP for FFPC is up and running and some interesting.
I actually jumped in one of these Never Too early's at the
103. I went ahead and took Brock
Bowers there. Tight end premium.
I'm pretty excited about that, actually.
New coach Let. Me See new coach.
Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll, I'm I'm halfway
through reading a very interesting profile on him from
when he was back at USC. I'll try to share that in a
second because it's pretty, I would recommend people check it
out. It's pretty interesting.
All right, I'm going to share this ADP here.
Give me a second all. Right, One O 1 is Chase, one O 2
is Berkeley from Fantasy Mojo so far I need.
I need to get the player I DS I need.
I need Hayden to give me the player IDs early so that I can
have rankings ready to go right when they drop it.
Yeah, I I also need the player IDs.
So if you're getting player IDs. I, I'm going to be honest, I, I
don't think he's going to give me the player.
ID well if you get. This is big board.
Yeah, Big board. What we're planning on doing is,
is as soon as it drops, downloading them and having a
spot for the player IDs to go and it'll take us a couple.
Hours. When is that likely to be?
Probably next does next Tuesday, I think.
If I had, if I had to guess, yeah, Taysom.
Will Taysom be a tight end? People are asking this more and
more all the time. Will Travis Hunter be a wide
receiver? Yes.
Sure. An underdog but what about FFPC
safety man somehow all right so here's the FFPCADP fantasy mojo
go sign up over there get all the ADP data anything that want
this jump out to you obviously it's.
Tight HN what is? What is HN two O 1 I mean?
Two O 1. You want him over a Breece Hall
next year, or Buck East or Gent? I don't.
You do. Not over, Not over, Genti.
I don't. I think, I think it's about 10
picks too high. I, I think a Chan is at risk.
A Chang they could draft somebody like is they should.
Wouldn't. Wouldn't you argue?
That might be better for Mr. A Chan if they drafted someone and
let him get back to 190. Yeah, but it wouldn't leave him,
leave him at the 201. For for best player.
For best player wasn't explosive and then like they're going to
lose work. It's like, ideally they get back
to being explosive on a smaller workload, but there's a risk
that they're not explosive on a smaller workload now.
Chase Brown cook like a round later.
Chase Brown I I had to. I'm in a I'm in a Rotoworld way
too early mock that Pat Doherty put together and someone took
Chase Brown in the third round and I had to sadly inform them
that Chase Brown is going to be splitting with like two
different rookies next year. I mean, look, I was the original
Chase Brown slappy, but guys. Davis, I think I might be in on
Chase Brown. You know, I like Chase Brown
better when his name was Phillip Lindsay or Alfred Morris or or
any James James. Just any of these other any of
these other guys. Yeah.
The thing I'm struggling with on Chase Brown is if he like, let's
say it's one of these kind of totally fine round 3 running
backs. Let's say they bring in like
Bashal Tooten, the guy in the third round.
His ceiling is so high. Like we know Chase Brown can be
so like at what point? And OK, so then who's who takes
his job? Gente takes his job.
Hampton takes takes his job. They're not taking on probably
takes his job but like. Buddy like Laquint Allen could
take half of his job. Guys, I.
Don't know I. I can't wait for eight more
months of this, but we got to wrap Pete Scott, the badge
Brothers, Badge Bros. Anybody see brothers?
Is that sort of? I do and people I say brothers
and and. People make fun.
Edge Bros previewing the conference championship games
here on the channel next. I don't know, Pat, if you know
how to sort of direct everybody there it.
It goes. It it goes there, stay here,
it'll go there. Stay here, it'll go there.
I got to go to do my show in Buffalo at on the Odyssey app
starting in less than an hour. Thank you guys been fun.
Good luck to everybody watching and go Bills.
Go Bills, see you later.