Good morning and happy holidays from sunny Buffalo.
I'm Mike Schope. It's ADP chasing Christmas time
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But tonight leading to fade him to get buried by Kendra Miller.
Let's see where we're staying going into The Only Thing That
Matters Week 17 with our heroes, Pat Karine and Davis Matic.
I'm Mike, thanks for being with us.
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Welcome. Hi, guys.
Pat, New look. Yeah, I'm at my my parents
place, so this is my English professor father's study.
I was going to say you, you look you.
You absolutely look like you were in a professor's study.
Right now I am. That's exactly where I am, Pat
Delaware. Delaware love it.
Davis ever been. I've driven.
I've driven through it. You got to visit Delaware.
David, you. Got to visit Delaware.
How do you drive through Delaware?
Where are you ending up? Yeah.
It only takes a couple minutes if.
You go past Philadelphia, you're in Delaware, then it's the
ocean. I don't know where you're going
if you're driven to your Delaware and that's.
Maybe I haven't. I we drove.
I've driven to upstate New York before though.
And I think. I think we went through
Delaware. But it's been a long time.
It seems like you know, It seems like you must have gone directly
to the sea and then up. I think you got lost.
What happened there? Fair.
Guys, how are we looking or feeling going into Week 17?
Davis, I've been watching you, of course, and listening all
year and it's been, you know, kind of like this is not going
to be my year. Are you hopeful for anything?
What have you got? I've got a couple teams in like
the peasant contests there are, there are contests I've made the
finals that if I win I will still be in the red on the year,
which is which is a good bit. My MY2 best teams in in contests
that I cared about ran into Jonathan Taylor so.
Oh wow. Nothing you can do about that.
The game. The game is the game.
You weren't even worried about him, probably like it was
Barkley. Still, Barkley could bounce
back. Derek Henry, the guys we talked
about last week, but was anybody?
I just watched him score 40 and I'm still not worried about him,
you know? Like, I just watched him score
40 and I'm like, well, you know. No, I, I'm.
I play that slate again. I had him on a couple teams and
and I was pretty psyched about him.
I think he pairs really well with Jalen Hurts.
That's who you want. You want Jonathan Taylor all all
of your Jonathan Taylor for some reason to be paired with Jalen
Hurts. Yeah, Did not.
I won a team with that combo. I won with the team with that
combo. And I was, I started rooting
against one that was that combo because the other quarterback
was Kirk Cousins. And I was like, I just can't.
I can't handle the pain of showing up to Week 17 without a
quarterback. Well, what did they give you?
Like Hertz gave you 4 point something and dealer gave you 40
and so, you know, split that down the middle.
You're happy with both guys? I.
Guess right? Yeah.
But have you looked at the? Sorry if this is like just a
needle, but have you looked at the main event leaderboard at
all? I looked.
No, I looked last night because we had a team score 190 in the
Sprint and I was like, is that even possible?
Are we going to even make any money?
And we're we need like 190 again next week to ladder up to any,
any meaningful money. Why is is go bills up there?
Are you up there? Who are we looking at?
Unfortunately, neither, but here's go Bills like they won
back-to-back. I get a text this morning from
Nick and he's like Buffalo guys are in 2nd and you know, it's
not him this time, but it's still good.
But they're putting up. They just put up back-to-back
200 point weeks and are losing ground.
The 1st place team, I don't, it's called Queen's Gambit.
I don't know them. Yeah.
I don't. Know who that is, but jot
literally, this is amazing. I think Josh Allen was their
lowest scoring player yesterday at 13, right?
I mean, the Aubrey Atlanta and just, you know, Janu, maybe
Chuba maybe like just he was literally their lowest scoring
guy and they're up maybe 25 going into next week.
Pretty good. Pretty good.
Yeah, I just like I, I am already so mentally removed from
this current season that's happening like I fast forwarded
to 2025 about six weeks ago, so. Yeah, I had a bunch of stuff.
So I it looks like I'll make like the puppy final.
We'll see. There's like I'm kind of in
Davis boat where I'm looking at some some smaller stakes stuff.
I was talking to sacrilegious. He's kind of in the same boat.
Given how bad the season was in certain ways, it does feel nice
to like have teams that are structured well.
Like I still I'm like, all right, Well, at least like these
teams are structured to put up points in a single week the way
I was hoping, but I had a lot of stuff just like it was like
close and the hat and and won't get through.
So yesterday was. Pretty If you told me that that
Chase Brown was projected for 24 points in week 16, I I probably
would have assumed I was having the greatest year in the history
of of best ball so. Man, I I was watching you last
night. Look at that Guy Davis.
I mean, come on, let's let's celebrate Chase Brown once
again. It would be really interesting.
I actually brought. I actually just tweeted this
because I saw a tweet about his pass blocking say they just
bring in a Zack Moss like Zack Moss Part 2.
They just do the exact same thing again.
I I think he's he's probably a top 15 pick in basketball next
year. Now if they take one of these
Ohio State guys in the draft, someone fun if they bring in
someone good. But if it's I don't know who's
who's if who's 2025 Zack Moss? What if they just bring Zack
Moss? Back.
They could. They could do that, yeah.
I mean, who was 2025? Zach Boss.
Well, you guys pondered, I don't know what if you're Cincinnati,
what do you want to be doing in the draft defense?
I mean, that's been that they're having MVP caliber offensive
player of the year caliber player, you know, seasons and
they're they're losing. They are not going to have the
luxury of doing so 'cause they whiffed on Burton.
T Higgins is going to be gone. They they don't have the luxury
of doing that. They will, they will Joe.
Joe Goodberry tweeted this last night.
He's really good on just all, all Bengal stuff.
He'd be the voice they basically cost.
He's a Buffalo guy too, by the way.
He is a Buffalo guy. They basically cost themselves a
starter on offense or or defense in terms of salary cap dollars
by not just paying Chase when they were first able to pay
Chase. By by haggling with Chase and
not giving him what he wanted in this offseason, they cost
themselves a starter's worth of salary cap while also not paying
T Higgins. By the way, I found 2025 Zach
Moss hit me. Naja Harris.
Oh no, he will be undrafted. They signed Naji Harris.
He he will be they, they will. Zach Taylor would be ready to
give Naji Harris more touches per game than Chase Brown.
If you guys, if you guys were the Bengals, though, and you had
whatever limitations we think they have in terms of dollars,
what would you do? The story of their season is
still, they're not out of it yet.
By the way, they played Denver on Saturday, like they're a lot
more live from the Colts and Dolphins.
It was a good weekend for them. They, they have to win out and
the, the Broncos have to lose to the Chiefs in Week 18 and the
Chiefs are probably going to be resting guys then.
So it's, it's probably dead, but they just have to win this week.
So the story of their season, I mean, sure, it's the defense,
but it's not really the story of their season. 10 to 16 against
the Patriots 30. The horrible overtime loss to
the Ravens when they were way up, horrible loss to the eagles,
horrible loss to the Chargers, horrible loss to the Steelers
where I mean, they're they were just like if if they just don't,
they just not idiots. If they just manage the game
well. But they had the kickers miss
against the chargers. Like really, honestly, if they
just win that Patriots game, just win the Patriots game,
you're in the you're in the playoffs.
If you just win the. Patriots.
Game week one. That's crazy.
Well, I'm trying to think like an NFL team and I think what
everybody will say about Cincinnati is their defense was
terrible, their offense was great, Chase Brown was great.
They're not going to put anybody in there next to him that would
threaten him. After what this season has been
so far, it's got to be way worse than.
That they always. Do this they.
Yeah, that's not really. Always do, Damien Pierce.
Unbelievable. You're thinking like a fantasy
player. Yeah, I think.
I think. NFL.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm just so battered by, you know, the years
of like, oh, this guy showed that he's great, so therefore
he'll be their lead back next year.
And it's like, no, we're going to take a guy in the second
round. Like what I I I would say, I
would say he's 5050 to like outright not be fantasy relevant
next year. Like just like.
Out like outright like by like week 5 is not even on rosters.
And this is the day I realize that I'll be drafting a ton of
them. And this is this is coming from
someone who who like. Literally like.
Would not shut up about Chase Price.
He's Canadian, he's handsome, he's his brother's in the NFL.
He's like, he's like a cool. But yeah, I I would say he is.
I mean, Damien Pierce, Phillip Lindsay, like just just name
guys. They tried to do it to Chuba.
They tried to. They literally tried to do it to
Chuba. How did that go?
Well, I mean, that would be ideal for for Chase Brown.
Draft the guy in the second round who doesn't play more
than, you know, 100 snaps. That's great.
What what? What about Chase Brown?
Being Canadian makes you like him more, by the way.
I just like Canadians. You do maybe.
Maybe it's. Maybe it's, maybe it's the Jacob
Sanderson impact. I just, I like, I like the idea
of a Canadian NFL player because I'm like, you had to have had a,
a, a crazy upbringing to be Canadian and play American
professional football. Well.
Claypool. Good comment here.
Algier. Yeah, there you go, Algier.
Completely forget Algier. Yeah, Algier had 1000 yards and
then they said, they said, you know what, this team needs a 7th
overall pick at running back. That's what you need, he.
Still is awesome too. Like there's no reason for them
to draft a bichon. Yeah, none.
And Bichon's amazing, but it's just, I don't know that's.
It's just, it's just that we're always learning and it's always
evolving and it's it's it is still the Bengals, but there's
just no way they would threaten Chase Brown after the season.
They just had like, I don't know when can we start drafting next
year today. Can we do that?
We just skip the playoffs. It's.
Probably going to launch later today, yeah.
Is that right? No, no, no.
But it'll launch. It'll launch sooner than I would
prefer as a content guy. Who's the one O 1?
Are you kidding me, dude? I'm, I'm chomping at the bit
Barkley. I mean, I'm not saying Barkley
should be, but Barkley will be. Barkley will be the one O 1.
I think what's what's Jefferson or Chase, but.
My role, Jefferson, you have the quarterback stuff again, I think
we're going to we're going to do that conversation again.
But we shouldn't. We shouldn't, but we will.
I mean look the they they are most likely moving away from
Darnold to a rookie who didn't throw a ton in college.
And although Darnold has played awesome and kind of seems to
show anyone can play awesome, Kevin O'connell's system, it
could be worse. Moving to to JJ McCarthy.
And it wasn't great for Jefferson all year.
He's had some good games down the stretch thing.
Isn't that, isn't that, by the way, just what you said?
Isn't that the most disgusting thing you've ever heard?
That the the the man who is currently second in the NFL in
receiving yards has 10 touchdowns?
Like, ah, dude, pretty down year.
Pretty, pretty, pretty down year.
He's I do, I think. He's.
Chase. Maybe, but Chase is going to
have Burrow has also had an incredible year.
And a. Half the season or LG to fight
with for. Yeah, well he's well.
He probably won't have T Higgins to fight with.
You know, the the very interesting thing, though, is
like how much of this Viking stuff, their defense, how much
of it is smoke and mirrors, like, oh, you get, you get Van
Ginkle who was like kind of done in Miami.
They didn't even want him back. And he's like, maybe I believe
he's 2nd right now in defensive player of the year.
Odds like it. It's not like they have blue
chip players here. They have a, one of their
safeties is like 40. Just play it just plays every
down. Harrison Smith.
Like how much of this defense 'cause remember a year ago we
were like, oh, you want every Viking 'cause they have the
worst defense imaginable. They just play in a Dome.
They give up 40 every game. And we know defenses are not
sticky year to year, you know what I'm saying?
Like we like that that happens all the time.
Teams are like, oh, we have this great defense time to build.
Oh, our defense is terrible. Our our oh, we gave up 35 again.
Jets. You're talking about The Jets
and the Bengals teams. The Bengals were supposed.
To be a good team, that's true, yeah.
Lou Amorano was getting head coach interviews.
I know you know who probably won't get head coach interviews,
though, is Brian Flores. Or if he does.
No. And then him as a.
Head catch No SO. Yeah, he.
So you do at least have Flores coming back probably, which is
big. He's he's like Spagnolo, where
where he was just such an unqualified disaster that you
just stay and put. Yeah.
Consider Jefferson, though, So last year or in the spring we're
talking about does he get paid? What is the quarterback thing
going to be? And he sort of he easily rose
above all of it. I mean, yeah, I think that's the
the right point. Is he?
He does have he's gonna have 1500 yards again.
Like just. He's gonna have, he's gonna have
1500 yards and 12 touchdowns, Yeah.
I mean, what, what is he gonna have next year then?
Like, is it gonna get worse? Is is McCarthy worse?
Is Darnold maybe still there? You like you could they have the
great defense. Worst quarterback play could
maybe be better for him volume wise because what's happened in
the tone of these games? Darnold has Darnold has, he's
got more games with less than 31 pass attempts than games with
more. You know, whereas like McCarthy,
if the defense is worse and you're, you're kind of punting
or just like turning the ball. Over I know and and and they
play the AFC South. Like next year.
No, this year, I mean, they they had games back-to-back three in
a row. They went to Jacksonville, TN in
Chicago and, you know, overcame all of that.
Josh Dobbs, right. Were we talking about that too,
trying to build a case for Jefferson?
You guys were into it like, Oh yeah, Dobbs and Mullins and this
these these bozos. And now you've got steady.
The defense is better. It's still, it's still, you
know, an A plus. Yeah, I think it'll be
interesting to see because Aaron Jones is a free agent.
So what do they do at running back?
Because if. They bring in, they're not
paying him. No, they're not paying him if
they bring in a Naji or I mean, if they bring in a Naji, I won't
care. But if they bring in like a
rookie, if they spend like good capital on a rookie, the the
free agent class at running back is pretty bad.
It's it's like an all time draft class at, at running.
I, I'm, I'm getting a lot of, I, I follow a lot of Vikings guys
and they all want to take Gene T.
So that's kind of the thing, like if they were to take Gene
T, that's where I would start to get concerned about like, what
is this offense trying to be next year with with a guy who's,
you know, functionally a rookie at quarterback?
You just might I, I don't think O'connell's going to go like run
heavy, but he might stop being so pass heavy, you know?
Is is early draft capital running back maybe back then
next year? With what's happened in the
league this year with the stars who are sort of left for dead
and are back and thriving, the quarterback pool is not as
great. Are we going to see over under
Davis over under 1 1/2 running backs picked in the first round?
Oh, way over. Wait, wait.
Like. I thought we were done with that
though, no? As a as a leader.
Who, who are the other guys that you're really excited about
this? Because I I ran some my early
stuff just to get oh. The NFLNFL draft not.
NFL Draft. No, it'll be, it'll be, it'll be
one guy, 11. Gene T, right.
OK, yes, because Gene T looks like awesome in in my stuff.
I was like, OK, so this that's nice.
It's nice that like the guy everyone's super psyched about I
I I'm going to be excited about too, most likely.
But the other guys kind of look fine, like a bunch of like
second round dynasty. Pig types.
The The thing is, is that there's like in a normal year
though, maybe like five guys who are fine, they're like 12 guys
who are fine. OK.
Like Amari and Hampton, I think Caleb Johnson could potentially
be a first round pick. The Tennessee guy, they have the
two the two Ohio State guys that are going to be weird to analyze
because they, because they played to get well, they yeah.
So so Henderson and Junkins, then you've got like interesting
kind of gadget guys like Devin Neal and Burchard Smith and that
I mean that's like not even getting into like the Penn State
guys who were five. Like literally like Singleton
was a five star high school guy who's going to be an early
declare and was awesome. But he was with another high
school five star guy who's a sophomore K Tron Allen.
So he split Then I, I mean like I, I think there could legit be
like maybe like 15 running backs that go.
So it's like 100. Very quality depth is is Gene T
plus very quality depth, OK. Well then more than one is going
in the 1st. Time Ollie Gordon Ollie Gordon
was the number one or was the number 2 prospect when the year
started. And then he was like he was like
the he was like the worst running back in college
football. This research senior kind of
like Chuba Hubbard, by the way, remember Hubbard cost himself a
ton of money going back to school at Oklahoma State.
So there's like that Jonah Coleman.
A lot of people love Jonah Coleman.
He's like a pass catcher who runs a four.
It's just like it's it's unbelievable.
There's a lot of guys. People in the chat are saying
like all these dudes you haven't even said yet so I think does
does seem good. Cam Cam.
Scatabo, everyone, everyone is going to love.
I mean, he's going to be like he's going to be the new Dylan
Lauby. He's like not going to play.
But someone in all of your rookie drafts has taken Cam
Scatabo in the in in the third round.
They're the with the three O 4. They're taking Cam Scatabo even
though he's never going to play. Well, we don't know how this NFL
season ends yet, but running, it's been our topic, fantasy
football's favorite topic, even if we hate it this year, has
been the resurgence of the veteran running backs.
And aren't NFL teams going to sort of pay attention?
I mean, you've got look at look at the quarterback landscape
right now, the rookies from 2024.
Maybe it's even also Pennix. It's certainly Bo Nicks, it's
certainly Jaden Daniels. It's got to be Drake, May
Williams at the One O 1. We'll see.
But so many teams. Maybe Indianapolis, Well, I
don't know, but so many of these teams are kind of locked in.
They've paid their money for the mid veteran guys like Tua Golf.
I mean, Darna will get paid. Baker the the supply isn't there
coming out of this draft. But teams, most teams are in
pretty good shape. You have teams that'll be
drafting Carolina super early in the draft that really New
England that really don't need that quarterback anyway.
Maybe what the take away from this season is in terms of the
NFL draft is you've got this running back pool that you're
laying out Davis and we've seen it work for Philadelphia.
We've seen we think, you know, benefit Baltimore, some of the
top guys, Houston and let's go do that.
Let's try that now. And what else is there, right?
We're going to talk about the importance of linebackers again,
or offensive lineman again, I mean.
Hey, linebackers are kind of having a resurgence, by the way.
Linebackers are back. I think the thing with the the
NFL, like the conversation around running back like they've
always been, they're kind of like a closer in baseball or
something, like they add something, but they have to, but
they're not taking. They might take a great roster
over the top or like if you have everything in place.
And also having a. Bad one or or Saquon Barkley
choose Barkley. He's like clearly, clearly
right. But like if you have you know,
the Giants, should the Giants have resigned Barkley?
Would they be any better? They wouldn't be any better.
They wouldn't they? Would they have won like one
more game? Like maybe one?
Probably. They probably win.
They probably win one more game. Probably win one more.
Game put themselves in a spot. Where they can't take Cam board
and they have to trade off or. Something.
Yeah, exactly, but it costs themselves a franchise
quarterback maybe. So that's where I think the so
the free agent thing probably I feel like probably we went too
far and running backs in free agency than the draft, because
in the draft, the trouble with the draft is you're now taking
shots that you get at positions, especially we're talking like,
OK, running backs back in the early part of the draft, like
you have a shot to draft a franchise tackle, you know, an
edge rusher. Stuff that doesn't really come
around in free agency. Like you don't get, you don't
get, don't show up. Yeah, edge rushers you can find,
but it's like, it's tough, you know, and.
You got and you only get them for a little while and you have
to pay crazy. Like both crazy.
They're like coming off a bad season or old or something.
Both of our teams have done this.
The Bills and the teams have had to try and figure out edge
rushers and and have like super swung and missed.
Traded a first round pick for Frank Clark, Who stinks.
You know Paige. Paige paid an arm and a leg for
Von Miller, who stinks. Can't play anymore.
Next up is Miles Garrett. He'll get traded, right?
And he's kind of cheap actually, for his value.
He deserves it. He's that's a good chief, Miles.
You would be a you would be a you would be a good chief.
By the way, I meant to I meant to tell you guys this or I just
wanted to bring this up on a show that Texans game.
That was the first time all year.
I was like, this is the Chiefs. You're back.
It was, it's like I was ready for them to lose a home playoff
game to the Steelers. And I watched that game and I'm
like, oh, this actually makes so much more sense when there's
three guys on the field who can get open.
Like subbing out Justin Watson for Hollywood Brown, that's like
subbing me out for Peter Oversat.
That's getting, you're getting, you're getting the real thing
right there. That's.
Like that? That that, that elephant.
Did you get it, Pete? Right there, dude.
I mean, am I, am I alone? Am I alone in this?
Like I just, I thought watching that game, I was like, this is
what it was supposed to look like the whole year.
I didn't see much of it. They threw a deep ball to Watson
that didn't work out. I mean when I heard his name on
the radio wide. Open on that play, by the way.
Was he? Wide open, yeah.
Well. On on the early round stuff from
next year, where where do you guys think Bijan will go?
Early. Really early, early.
I think he has a case for the like if we're talking about one
O 1 candidates, he should be in the mix.
I I wholeheartedly, especially because Pennex looked pretty
solid, like we Pennex to be better than Cousins was, yeah.
You also don't want a quarterback to be too good, too
good for for for the one O 1 style running back you want
because you want the offense to be built around the running
back. And if you don't do that after
the quarterback's great. Yeah.
So I think Bijon, because he started slow and he looked kind
of bad early, like what he's doing is really, really
impressive and he's. He's been awesome.
He he sent Algier to the woodshed.
Yeah. So I, I think like next year
could, could be Bijan's year. I think I I don't.
I'll pay whatever I'm asked to pay.
How about this? If you put Barkley in
Mccaffrey's slot, which is the usual one O 1, how different
does the first round even look? I mean, you've got Jefferson and
Chase, you've got Bijan and Breece Hall, you've got a Monroe
St. Brown.
Then you get to the end and it's.
All and Tyreke are gone. Hookah's up.
It's pretty similar though for year to year isn't it if you
have a lot of the same? Oh sure, if Stafford retires
then. We, we've been doing the
Stafford retirement thing for two years, but also I think
there's a pretty good lesson to learn from Rogers and Cousins
this year. Not just the Achilles thing, but
just like quarterbacks at a certain point when you when you
lose any ability to move, when you when you like truly are
basically just a trebuchet, you're just wheeled out and you
have to, you have to sit and launch the the floor.
You have that in one of those books, Pat, that word.
You have that pretty. Yeah, this.
Is actually the history of Trebuchet.
It's right behind. My shoulder, yeah.
The the floor for all the. Surrounding players.
Just goes to 0. Just go like if if your
quarterback cannot complete like the, you know, the the classic
NFL good quarterback play, like can you throw the seven yard out
to the sideline and you're not worried about it getting
intercepted if you lose that ability?
By the way, Gibbs, Montgomery's going to be, I know they
extended him. Montgomery's going to be 29
coming off of an injury. It sounds like he's going to try
and play in the playoffs, which I just feels misguided to me.
But I mean obviously like you don't.
Want to? So if he's playing on it, that
means he's not. Yeah, it does sound misguided to
me, too. But if he doesn't get surgery,
here's here's what's probably likely to happen.
If he plays on, he's going to look bad.
He's. Going to look terrible.
And so we'll just be like Montgomery's done whether or not
he is done, whether or not he's going to look good next year, we
will decide he's done probably right knowing, knowing us and.
10th. Round Montgomery will be.
Send me. Death.
Montgomery even. I mean, at that point he's a
contingent play. Yeah, Gibbs will probably,
you're right. Gibbs will be in the in the One
O 1 conversation. That was my instinct last week.
The Montgomery news came out when we were talking and like
MCL doesn't seem like it has to be over, but maybe it won't be
for a running back. It's one thing quarterbacks have
had that injury and they're they're back in a month and are
functional. How about Devin, a Chain?
He's like legitimately gonna have 90 receptions.
He looked awful all year. That's the crazy thing.
Is he just like, dude, he he's been Naji.
Goddamn Harris. This.
Year, you know what we're we're gonna do Davis, he's his ATP is
not gonna change by even a pick, but a whole different group is
gonna draft him like we're all we're coming out of the mine and
then the the boomers come in and like the volume.
Volume Baby. But OK, but you can imagine what
a chain getting half of the like, not all of it.
He's not going to average 7.8 yards per carry or whatever, but
imagine if he had this volume season with half of last year's
efficiency. Oh yeah, then.
Then you're talking about a guy who'd be back in the One O 1
conversation. Agreed, agreed.
And I mean, he's he was so good two years ago.
I guess it's I'd be very curious to see like what they do with
their offensive line and stuff that's.
So bad. It's so bad like they their
whole offense is is really geared around not not having an
offensive line like they they pass so quick.
That's why Jon has gotten so much volume.
Like they have to get the ball. It's killed Tyreke's efficiency,
Wilds efficiency like so yeah, I honestly, I would say that the
same for the Rams, like Stafford, I think has actually
had kind of an impressive year given how bad their pass
protection is. He's had to get the ball out
quickly. I wish he was more of a
trebuchet, right. A trebuchet would have have time
to to, you know, step back and and fire some some deep throws.
He's been more trying to get the ball out quick, not as not that
high of an 8 out all that. So.
Trebuchet is the what of cromulence.
We have to figure that out before we're done.
I. You need you need cromulence for
a functional trebuchet, I think. Is no you kidding?
That was my yearbook quote. You're you're.
You're mixing it up. You can't.
You can't compare an adjective to a verb well.
There's also a book about that behind me.
I'll get out of your way. What's James Cook 14 rushing
touchdown. Let me tell you, let.
Me tell you a guy, I will have zero of two.
James Cook. James Cook.
James Cook is going to be a six round pick on Underdog and a
second round pick on FFPC. Laugh all you want, that's
winning. No, Joe, I don't even think you
believe that. He doesn't even play half the
snaps dude. Yeah, I just, I've never bought
in on cook, but it's happening like what I mean.
It sounds like you bought in now I'm I'm.
I'm I'm pushed in now like it's OK, OK, it's 14 rushing
touchdowns. You could very well set the
franchise record and you know, Alan is still running for 11 and
doing his thing. But you know, you you're getting
these like yesterday you're getting these sort of random 45
yard touchdown bursts from cook. He's good enough to do that.
Alan is such a threat that it sets up great for him.
I mean, it's it's there, so they.
They strike me as a team that will draft somebody.
Well, they've done that a lot. 30 I think.
Right. They drafted Davis this year,
you know, this year already. And he seems fine.
They they definitely don't need to, but they probably will in a
deep class. They're like, you know, let's,
let's see if we can, let's see if we can find that hammer.
But I could see them looking for that.
Because cookie. Interesting kind of a.
Hammer. But he isn't what is.
He's like a screwdriver they used as a hammer.
He's a pickaxe. Travis Hunter's opening big
board ADP going to be Travis Hunter is wide receiver.
What in what round in the big board?
I mean, is he even a wide receiver?
So. He's he?
No. No, no, no, come on.
That is so disrespectful to Travis Hunter.
Hunter is probably better at wide receiver than defensive
back, but The thing is, is that a a shutdown corner is like one
of the most valuable things to find in the NFL.
Hasn't he also been really good as a cornerback this year?
Like. He's like, he's like the third
best guy in the country of both things.
Wow. I mean every, he says, Dionne
says, Shadur says. They all say if you're not
letting him do both, don't take him.
He he is not signing up to only do one or the other.
The the thing you have to ask yourself is what makes more
sense, a rotational nickel corner or a rotational third
wide receiver who runs 30% of the routes.
And it's like a. Rotational third wide receiver.
It's a rotational third wide receiver.
That makes way more sense. Way more sense I mean think that
all like the coverages and stuff you can't just have like a guy
who's like kind of like half I but.
He's. Going to do a bad piece on
screens and you can have packages like he doesn't need to
know everything on offense. Here's here's the deal, though.
Teams always say this Crane you, you guys didn't show up.
You guys ran a football a long time.
What it what do guys always say the a wide receiver go goes and
runs a nine route and is is beat.
He's got he doesn't really have anyone to tag him out.
You you don't really want you don't really want Justin
Jefferson running a nine route and then going to tag out for
Jaylen Naylor, the defensive back.
You know, unless he's Daryl Revis, just tag him out.
It's no, just tag him out. You just go to the sideline and
say I'm I'm beat. I need AI, need a snap off.
That can give you leeway both ways, right?
Like imagine Travis, I don't know, let's look at tankathon.
Imagine Travis Hunter gets drafted by the IT would actually
be hilarious if he went to the bears.
Let's say, let's say The Jets. Garrett Wilson goes and runs a
nine route. He's like, I'm beat, dude.
Travis Hunter comes in and he just only gets like good routes.
You know, he's he's getting, he's getting about 32% of the
routes and he's playing about 70% of the snaps on defense.
But they're just all good routes.
Yeah, he he's Kadarius Tony, but but not because he's he's
impossible to deal with, but because he plays cornerback at a
high level. That's that's what he is, right?
He's he's actually in the team's good graces, but only runs 30%
of the routes with it's. It's just a matter of will 2025
be a slappy year because Travis Hunter will be the slappiest
pick on the board at wide receiver because, you know,
there's so few scenarios where you're getting a full time wide
receiver. Like really?
Yeah. He's going Pat, he's going to a
terrible team, almost definitely.
Like do they have a quarterback situation that's anything like
he goes to the Bears? I don't know but I do they have
a best best. Case, best case, I think he goes
to Cleveland and and Jameis plays all year that that's like
kind of what you're that's like best, best case.
Don't you think Cleveland is already?
Done. You're like, did the rest of the
quarterbacks like go on strike Like there's no Jameis can't
play a full year anymore. Like he's getting he just got
benched for DTR. I think they're done with him,
Cleveland. Yeah, yeah.
But but what about Carolina? They're they're kind of
interesting for this. Like Carolina could be a team
where he does both. I think most I think a bad team
would sooner put him on defense and then eventually you get good
and you mix him in. You know, he's not going to be
the Chiefs drafting CEH or something like this where you
have like, we'll just see what happens.
Steen comments Pats is the dream best cases Panthers or patriots.
I don't, I like as someone who's like I, I don't really have that
much Drake man dynasty, so I shouldn't be like invested in
him for his entire career, but I am, you know, I, I was all in
him as a rookie and emotionally I'm I want this guy to succeed
and I think he looks really good.
So I, you know, I want him to get some weapons.
Give me Ted McMillan, man. Don't give me, don't give me
Travis Hunter. Don't do it to me.
I'd I'd have no interest because he's he's probably going to be a
cornerback. And if he's not a cornerback,
he's a wide receiver who's spending like half his time or a
third of his time with the defensive backs or whatever.
Like I spend AI want a wide receiver who's spending 100% of
his time thinking about how to be an offensive weapon.
Unless unless Pat this guy is an alien and and like like imagine
Randy Moss decided I also want to be an all world defensive
back. Like, I'm not saying I'm not
saying I'm not saying he is that I'm just saying like based on
what I watched him do in college, it's at least possible
that he is actually like, OK. I mean, that would be really
fun. Like, I, my hope is that Travis
Hunter goes to a quarterback I'm not emotionally invested in and
then it's a superstar. You know, that would be great
for the league, but I don't want to take the chance.
Someone moves heaven and earth. A good team moves heaven and
earth to get him. Like imagine he is a like a
commander. Commander would actually be
great because they need both things so bad.
They're not very rotational guy on the commanders, we'd be into
that. I know, but they're going to
draft 23rd, right? Like, yeah.
Who is? Well I'm saying, I'm saying you,
you, you move up to the Titans pick and you give them three
firsts or like 2 firsts and a a second and a fourth or
something. Travis Hunter feels like a
Jaguar to me. No, The thing is, you've never
said to anything more accurate. In your life?
Yeah, it's really. He's a he's a Jaguar and he
suffers a Liz Frank injury. Mini camp.
You have to Liz Frank is the turp bunch of crumb crumb.
The Jalen Hurts injury. I'll get back to that.
No or I won't. The Jalen Hurts injury means
what here? I mean, it's maybe not.
Is he going to miss this week or no?
What do we think? Well, it means Kenny Pickett's
not getting a new contract. Kenny Pickett his his dream of
just quietly playing behind Jalen Hurts and us hearing what
great guy is in meetings and then going to be someone's
starter. It's not happening.
He did make a couple throws. I was like.
He made a couple throws. He did make a couple throws,
yeah. How do you like Washington
turning the ball over five times and still beating the Eagles?
Yeah. The Commanders are a deeply
unserious team outside of the one guy, and it just shows the
value in having the one guy like that guy has.
I agree Cook Kingsbury really knows the stuff.
Like, and I think Rotopat has been tweeting about this a lot.
The way that Jaden Daniels teammates talk about him, it is
as if they have met the Lord. It is as if they've had a
religious experience being in the huddle.
Which is Daniels. That is no small thing.
I I have the talking to Ross Tucker every Tuesday on my show
in Buffalo. And he, so he had a short
career. He played for the Bills, he
played for Dallas and Washington and he finished his career with
New England. And we were talking about
whether it was Allen. I think it might have been about
Jaden Daniels. And he said you cannot overstate
the effect that the the the confidence a team has the
players 1 by 1 when they feel like they have the quarterback,
right when they have somebody you could just win games for the
you cannot overstate that. He when he went to play with
Brady after having played for Buffalo.
And you know, Washington like just this is so different.
You've just got everybody in here knows we can really win.
And that is that that reminds Washington reminds me of of that
comment. What you're saying about
Daniels. Is it live?
Is it potentially live for this year?
I mean you. Win the Super Bowl?
No, they're not the. Super Bowl.
But they're too. Shitty.
They just have, they just have like shitty players everywhere.
Like Jameson, Crowder was playing a big part in that game
yesterday. I know, but what's what's their
you know, thinking of maybe in terms of the playoff best ball
drafts for another week in here and Detroit lost.
They have 15 players defensive players on IR.
Is it like just pretty, pretty vulnerable looking Minnesota and
Eagles Washington as the seven is going to one of those teams?
Is it something like would you dabble with Washington in these
drafts? I guess that's the question I
want to ask. Gotta like them more than the
Bucks now, right? Yeah.
I mean, you have to. Yeah.
I mean, the Bucks really hurt themselves.
The The Bucks actually need the Commanders to win this week
after what they did last night. They play Atlanta Sunday night.
Yeah. Yeah.
Biggest biggest thing in playoff best ball from yesterday is the
Rams. The every outcome was was good
for the Rams. Seahawks lost, the Cardinals
lost. The Rams won a game they that
like they could have easily lost.
Niners are out like. They're I think, I think the
Rams, what was it? If the Seahawks lose next week,
I think the Rams are in because the Rams own tiebreakers over
the Seahawks. So if the Seahawks lose one of
the next two, then the Rams are in and the Rams play the
Seahawks in one of those games. So the Rams, the Rams control
their own destiny, but they they're even better than that.
Like they might not even have to beat the Seahawks and still get
in. The Rams are in a much, much
better spot than they were starting.
The week, don't forget, you already know the Week 17
schedule. So just, you know, fall back on
what we've learned. I kind of forgot it.
I forgot a couple of them already because I'm because I'm
now I'm now to I'm now I'm memorizing who's likely to play
who and play off basketball. I'm like, well, you don't really
want you don't really want the the the NFC South winner for
you. You don't want Buccaneers or
Falcons with the because they're likely to play each other.
Yeah, well, like the Rams look like they're going to be the
three, which is incredible playing Green Bay.
They were, they were about to trade Cooper Cup away.
And then Cooper Cup and Matt Stafford had breakfast together
and they were like. One time they got one breakfast.
We got, we got one, we got one last job to do.
You guys remember that they were about to trade Cooper Cup.
No, I always thought that was a lie, like the way McVeigh, the
way McVeigh plays the media. So like that morning was the
Thursday night game was the Minnesota, the cup game,
whatever it was like, oh, you know, there's media falls
forward or they're in on it. They might trade Cooper Cup.
He goes out and has puka plays unexpectedly and they both have
monster games. Like yeah, we probably won't do
that now. He.
Was 7% owned in showdown that night and I didn't and I had, I
had 70%. I just, it's like, it's like,
let me tell you, gambling is not just, it's a, it's a bad, it's a
bad, bad thing to do. McVeigh goes to cop.
Like, don't worry about it, I'm just going to float this out and
somebody talking about that and puka.
Nobody. They both roll out of the field
and catch 25 passes. I think is real, man.
I, I think I got the sense watching that game and listening
to the way the guys talk after I, I think it was real.
I think they all knew that was the game to stay together
because if they lost that game, they were what they would have
been three and five would have been would have been pretty
thin. If they lost that game, remember
the game they lost to Miami on a Monday night couple weeks after
that? Like they seem so dead but.
Yeah, I mean, they, they looked terrible in the win over the
49ers. You know, in that rain game,
Mcveigh's all wet. He couldn't call any plays that
weren't runs up the. First time they beat the 49ers,
they stole that game too, very early in the season.
Yeah, So that's right. We're looking at maybe like
Green Bay at the Rams, Minnesota at Atlanta as AS2, NFC playoff
wild card games where the road teams could both be favored.
That's got to be, that's where. Where are you guys at on Vikings
Lions Week 18? Do we do what?
What do we what like? Because now the Eagles.
Eagles are 0% for the BI, right? They are.
They're yeah, they they're basically dead.
Because one of those teams will win that game.
Correct. And Detroit at San Francisco,
Minnesota, Green Bay as always on Week 17.
Yeah, I guess so. Minnesota, I mean, Minnesota
just has to hit a, they have to hit what, like a + 210 parlay of
where they beat Packers? Packers at home, Lions at home.
At Detroit. At Detroit, OK.
So probably and. Who's the Lions play this week?
Parlay, San Fran, on Monday night.
Dead, Dead man walking team. Kind of, but I mean, they're,
they could be frisky. What did San Francisco have to
offer yesterday? That was that was in the Bills
window. So Davis?
No, nothing there. Well, the 49ers without a
functional running back, it's a tough ask.
They're they're down to a guy who would have spent all of
training camp like carrying pads around like shag and punts is
what Patrick Taylor junior would have been doing in training
camp. He he was the RB5 on the
practice squad to start the year.
Kyle Uscheck was getting rushes in that.
Game Did he do everything yesterday for them?
Taylor Debo it. Was Debo. 8 for 24 debo, 5 for
2534 for 26. Yeah, not a lot of juice.
No, and and it's not the same debo.
It's not the debo of old. Sure it sure ain't.
You had the tweet, right Davis? Like what was the tweet a couple
of weeks ago on him? Something about when there's
nothing in the tank or a flat tire or something like that on
him. Yeah, squeaky, squeaky wheel
doesn't work on a flat tire. Can't.
Grease a squeaky wheel on a flat
tire and. You, you had, you had a tweet
this morning on Kincaid that I wanted to ask you about, just
like not, not anything. What was your vibe when it comes
to him? What do you mean?
I just saw someone posting in Pete's discord, 7 targets, 4
catches, 15 yards is like the platonic ideal of the dog
Kincaid stat line and I just wanted to look like has he
actually been as bad as everyone in Pete's discord says he is?
Which is honestly mostly fueled by jealousy that Liam keeps
winning at best. Ball people.
Hated. They hated so much that Liam
keeps winning, so they they hate on Kincaid.
The answer is it's not great Kincaid's outcomes, but I would
say he's definitely not dead in terms of his historical cohort
because he's like more yards per game than Vernon Davis,
Hawkinson, Todd Heap, Greg Olsen and Joku.
Tight ends are are weird tight ends.
It just there, it's a weird position.
It's very hard to be good at that position.
Where do you where do you think Bowers goes?
Sadly, too rich for my blood. I will be.
I'll be sitting in the cock chair drafting Trey McBride,
insisting it'll finally be the year he scores touchdowns. 1-2
turn, someone said in the chat. I think 1-2 turn.
I mean, that's probably right. With with Sam Darnold getting
paid $40 million a year as his quarterback. 11 or or two picks
would be would be where I would start thinking about Bowers if
that happens, but man that'd be fun.
Kincaid is dynasty tight end. What I mean, you don't have that
many names here that have to come in over them even without
really having his having done anything.
In dynasty, tight ends tend to be expensive, but I think you
want to get off the Kincaids. Maybe you need another year to
get some value back in or something.
But like, he's not it. Kincaid is not it.
You know, he's not one of the guys.
He might be like a a functional tight end for a few more years
and maybe he has a but the problem for Kincaid is that his
archetype sometimes find success is like a pure pass catcher with
an elite quarterback. But that's where he is now.
Like he's living the dream now. So like, what's the upside for
him in three or four years? Like it's pretty it's kind of
downsizing. Like he might be Mike Kasicki or
something. Yeah, the only but is that they
already have a tight end who does what they want from that
position. Dawson knocks, has his hand
down. They're running the ball great.
Well, not great, but they're doing a lot of it and they're
winning all the time. They, they, they.
It's winning football when Knox is on the field.
Right. For years.
For like 5 years in a row. Would you rather have Tucker
Kraft or Dalton Kincaid? Is a is a fantasy asset or?
Dynasty. Dynasty.
Superflex. I'd rather have Tucker Kraft.
Would you rather have David and Joku or Dalton Kincaid and?
Joku is 20. Eight years old.
Kincaid is 25 and Jo got super young.
But you guys, you guys want a truly phenomenal fact that I, I,
it doesn't even seem real. Kyle Pitts is a full year
younger than Dalton Kincaid. That's.
Right, I'd rather I'd rather Kincaid than Pitts.
I'd rather have Kincaid. I'd definitely rather have
Kincaid. What about old ass Mark Andrews
or Dalton Kincaid? No one you're you're getting,
you're getting, you're getting a definitely a year of usable
stats out of Andrews, maybe 2. I would take Andrews on that on
that one. Who knows when he's done.
I mean, tight ends can last into their mid 30s.
Well, not Kelsey. I think with Andrew, what's,
what's Andrew's contract status because you're actually hoping
he becomes literally Zach Gertz and goes to like the commanders
and finishes up his career just like on pure target volume or
something. No, no shot, No shot.
Does that happen. By the way, he and Lamar love
each other. He's younger too.
I mean, he's the same. He's the Lamar draft.
They they actually, he's going to get, he's going to either
restructure or get cut because his out year is this offseason.
I, I, I would kind of be into him getting cut and going
somewhere else because they're not, they're not giving him full
route participation. And I think he has fallen off
where he needs full route participation.
He needs full route participation like high targets
per out run, which he can get. His open score has been pretty
good. He's, I think, let me pull it
up. He's first in open score and
he's been first in open score like for like 5 straight years
or something like his his route running is really good, but
yards after catch score. Tight ends worse than him Tyler
Conklin Zach Ertz Evan Ingram, Travis Kelsey those are the only
tight ends worse than. Mark trade Mark Andrews to me,
Car accident, major injury last year.
We do this with other positions, like just look, he's 29.
I don't know. I'm in.
I need him to accumulate though.
I just think he's in a bad spot for his skill set going forward.
Like I've been a big Andrews guy basically his entire career.
So it's more about like Lamar, I don't think no longer is like
serving what he's going to a part time role with Lamar is
just like. He's just got, he's got to score
like 12 touchdowns a year to to pay off in this role.
And now that Derrick Henry is getting 20 touchdowns?
I mean he's getting there like he scored.
How many touchdowns do you have over the last like 8 weeks?
It's crazy, but. He's.
Got 9. Yeah, that that's the ceiling is
even with those touchdowns, like the touchdowns are just getting
to where you're like, all right, Andrew's.
Andrew's paid off this week, but you're not getting any kind of
ceiling with him. It's increasingly precarious
because they're just not putting them out there all the time.
I think it should trend up. He'd be somebody that I think is
go, go after him in the offseason.
But last year in the deep end, Adam and I are always drafting
Mark Andrews, like in everything, the pros versus
Joe's and everything. One time I turned Pat on and he
was talking to Jacob, maybe you, Davis, about, you know,
investing in Mark Andrews. Like, damn.
Because people are going to think I'm just copying Pat.
You know, he's got a bigger audience, but I wasn't, I'm
telling you, I wasn't. This year hasn't been as good
Kincaid. So he's almost top five Pitts.
So we talked about Kyle Pitts every minute.
There's about to be a a a young man by the name of Tyler Warren
who's like the 17th pick in the NFL draft Who and and Harold
Fannon, who is at Bowling Green State University, had like 1900
yards as a college tight end. If he's like a third round pick
to the Dolphins or something, I might just immediately rather
have him than than Kincaid, because I know whatever team
takes this fan and guy is not asking him to block.
They they, they are they, They well know who they are getting.
What's John Who then, by the way?
Oh. Loveland, Colston, Loveland, he
is. I mean, he's he's Michigan,
which is basically the same thing as Iowa Michigan.
Is the. Iowa, but good.
So that's that's your new, your new Kittle type.
Is John also on this on this list?
Interesting. Next year he is 29 I believe.
John So the thing with tight end is there's only a couple guy.
This is why I'm I like drafting tight ends early, is that
there's only a couple guys usually or this year that felt
like maybe there was more, but we were wrong about a number of
them. But you know, McBride was in
that group. McBride would very much be like
the type of guy who's like A-team's number one wide #1 wide
receiver with tight end eligibility.
There's only a few people in the NFL who can do that.
Right now. It looks like it's Bowers and
McBride, I'd say are like the two guys who are going to next
year be like a true #1 wide receiver with tight end
eligibility. Laporta after.
That What'd you say? Laporta's next right.
He doesn't have the opening, but.
Yeah, but I don't think he's that guy.
I I think he's I think he's a good NFL player, but he's he
really belongs more in the Evan Ingram, David and Joku kind of
group. You know, as we think about like
they could a really good secondary option with tight end
eligibility, but that we shouldn't be paying like top
five rounds for for that type of player.
I don't think. I mean, maybe he he has shown a
ceiling at the down the stretch. So, you know, I'm open to
arguments, I guess going on in his third year.
But but yeah, I think you you if you're paying up, you really
want them to be like the the primary weapon on their offense
and really good. That's where it's worth paying
up. The the middle class of tight
ends are is like it can be a trap because a lot of good tight
end seasons end up being kind of circumstance related.
You know, we've had lots of like one year wonders at the
position, like the Gary Barnage type years where like a guy
comes in and just. Absolutely tight ends.
Noah Gray has like 7 tight ends and he's, he's like the tight
end 9 or something. And it's like, you know, just a
total nothing. Like you you can really it can
evaporate. There can be like real mirages
at at tight end. So Johnny would be an A guy I'd
be pretty wary of of spending capital.
You want to look for Johnny types when they're free.
You know, like everything could come together for this.
Guy Evan Ingram going to the Jaguars.
Yeah, everything going to the Jaguar.
I think Gesicki next year if he's re signs with the Bengals
and and T Higgins leaves and is like a six 15th, 16th round
pick. Like, I'll have a lot of him
like guys who could emerge as really underpriced contributors
and good offenses terrain, you know, but I don't want to pay
for it. While we're doing this, that
auction league, the, the, the famous league that you and I are
in, I, I had 30 more points per game than every other team in
the regular season. I I'm going to lose.
I'm not going to. I'm not going to win.
Am I going to win? I think Gretch is going to win
because Mahomes started scoring fantasy points in the in the
playoffs. But it's, it's, it's just, it's
so annoying that I, I literally in this dynasty league show my
team averaged 198 points per game.
No one else in the league more than 175.
And is it best ball or no? Yes.
Yeah, It's 30, man. You guys don't have time for
Yeah, right. Oh no, I'm, I'm a sicko.
Actually, this is another thing I want to talk about.
I want I want to know what you guys make of this.
This is the best year of in my life.
In my home leagues. I I won every semi final.
I was in dynasty redraft. I won.
I won all of them. Is there, is there a lesson
there? Am I just bad at best ball?
Was it? Is it that I could cut Rashi
Rice's roster spot in? The yeah, I mean that helps.
Is that, is that really as simple as it is?
That definitely helps. No, don't quit.
Never give up, No. I, I promise I'm I'm going to
draft even harder. They're going to, I'm going to,
I only had 1500 teams this year, 2500 teams next year.
I'm drafting. I'm drafting even more.
How about this? So four years ago, I got excited
about the Empire format, where you have to win back-to-back and
then half the money, basically half the money every year goes
into a pot and you play for 10 years and there's somebody you
guys know is one win. Oh, probably he has to avoid
tonight, but he should one win away from taking it down.
Mike Leone. Yeah.
For six man. He's he's made.
He's made our leagues this way. We, we, we, we transition, if
anyone. Wins 3.
Times in a row our dynasty leagues are over, yeah.
Three times in a row? Come on.
Really. That's impossible.
Maybe it's two, maybe it's 2. That's the empire format.
You put a 10 year limit on it and if it goes 10 years, nobody
wins back-to-back. You just put all you give all
the money back evenly. But he's one went away from
taking it all down. Do we like that you have people
in the league that want him to win because their teams seem
kind of dead, right? Let's just end.
It they want it over with. I have to write a $6000 check.
I'm not sure I want it dead. But let's talk about tonight
before we wrap. So I mentioned in the open
Kendry Miller. I mean, I, I was like, you guys,
you know, I think probably just excited about him, one of these
rookies and it's just been so tough.
But here's his opportunity. Should I brace myself for
getting buried by Kendra Miller? Their team total is 14.
I don't want to stress too hard. No, I don't.
I don't think you need to be. If anything, the thing you
should be worried about is that the the Packers, if you need
Packers, like if you need like oh, I need 12.7 from Jaden Reed
or something. Your concern would be Jordan
Love is at five straight games or six straight games with fewer
than 30 drop backs. I believe they're three straight
games with fewer than 55 offensive plays total.
So your concern would be if Ben Sims scores a touchdown on the
1st drive or something like you are, you're like in jail.
You're like, oh shit. Like I just, I just can't get
there. I need 15.9 from Watson and if I
get it I will see you both in the mini schnauzer 6 finals but
it's no no sure thing and fading down.
Yeah, I need to, I need to check if if I'm getting chased down by
Jacobs because that's that's the guy that scares.
Me, I just do I I made the mistake of looking at some of my
teams yesterday and being like, oh, if I get from Rico Dowdell
was not like basically. Mental health don't.
Don't, don't do that. And I knew, I knew I like knew I
had Jill McMillan on every team. I advanced in the big board.
So I was like, oh, this is great.
Just don't, just don't look, man.
Just absolutely, just absolutely don't look.
We needed the ship chasing team that we drafted on the 1st week
of Basketball Mania that made the semis.
We needed an HN touchdown to even kind of be in the hunt, and
then we got it. So we then had a Baker double
with McMillan and Evans and Dowdell.
So we're like, all right, we're a lot and then we're not.
We weren't. We were not live.
Just easily, just just easily not live just like immediate.
Like The thing is, if you think you need it, you're just like
immediately dead. You're just like immediately.
You're not going to win. Somehow I managed to lose a pick
em Thursday night despite having a Darius Davis touchdown.
Who's that? That is, that is it.
Hurt. It hurt fortunate.
Pat, you're in Delaware with family.
What's your Christmas like? Christmas, we're going to be
doing Christmas Eve at my sister's and my side of the
family's all getting together there.
And then Christmas, pretty early in the morning, we're going to
drive down to my wife's family's place.
She lives nearby. Well, we met New York, but we
kind of grew up some, you know, fairly like within half an hour
of each other ironically. But we're going to be spending
Christmas morning with them. But we're down here for like
another, we're down here through almost to the new Year.
So we'll because my brother and his family are out of the
country right now. So we're sticking around till
they get back and we'll see them right before the new year.
Very nice. So yeah.
Lots of lots of travel and lots of visiting family.
Davis. No travel for me, bless.
Christmas at home. Yeah, my wife's parents live
like in the same, in the same neighborhood and I'm not, I'm
not driving 10 hours to go to go home for myself.
So beautiful. I live on Grand Grand Island,
NY, just north of Buffalo near the falls.
My father, my mother, my two sisters all live on the island.
My wife's sister lives on the island, which is kind of random.
It's not even that big, but we're all here.
It'll be a fun and football will be on, just like it's
Thanksgiving. It's going to.
Be on It's going to be on all day every.
Day 2 games on Christmas Wednesday, Thursday night,
Seattle, Chicago 3 on Saturday, Sunday, Sunday night, Monday
night. Buckle up.
Yep. Good luck everybody.
Merry Christmas, Happy holidays. Thanks for being a part of our
team here on ADP Chasing. We'll talk to you next week.