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All right, Good evening. 
Good evening. 

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Special edition of ship Chasing.
Tonight, I got my pros versus 

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Joe's draft. 
This is an FFPC Bestball league.

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It's a slim 18 round, slightly 
different settings than maybe 

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some of us are used to on 
underdogs. 

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We're going to talk through that
as I draft this team from the 1 

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pilots here tonight, Ben, Gretch
and Sacrilegious. 

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This is Ship Chasing. 
Let's do it, Pat Fryer, Helmo 

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Anita. 
Hand job. 

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Fix your sight, Jamar and alpha 
play chase. 

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You can't handle the heat. 
It looks like we're finally at 

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this point. 
All right, this this draft is 

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already off to the races guys, 
so no pleasantries. 

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Bijon goes 1/3. 
I was expecting to get Chase 

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here at 14, but Tyreek Hill 
feels like a pretty nice gift 

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here. 
Do you guys concur? 

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Yeah, happily. 
Always, always happy to click 

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Tyreek at the 104. 
Let's do it. 

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How's it going, Gretsch? 
Good, good. 

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Yeah, that's a fun start, 
Tyreek. 

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Yeah, I guess it is like I spent
a lot of time looking at some of

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the ADP. 
I've been looking at some of the

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leg up ranks, the Rotovis ranks 
of course. 

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But in these industry drafts, 
right where a lot of people are 

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doing their first draft, I I 
feel like the ADP might even be,

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and I don't want to say 
completely meaningless, but not 

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as helpful as if you were in 
just like a best ball slim with 

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all the regulars or. 
Whoever, but this is also a pros

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versus Joes and isn't it every 
other? 

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So that would have been a Joe, 
right? 

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Since you are a pro? 
That's true. 

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Yeah, Let me. 
The other the way it sets up. 

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Let me make sure I can give you 
guys some of the. 

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I'll get the screen here so you 
can see. 

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It's actually my partner. 
Yeah, it looks like the pros. 

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There's Matt Schauf, hopefully 
I'm pronouncing that right from 

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Draft Sharks. 
There is Theo from Player 

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Profiler. 
There's Stacy Perez, who's 

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friends with our our gal Steph, 
Sigmund Bloom, of course, 

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football guys, and Todd Burrows 
from Sharp Football. 

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So got a fun room here. 
Sacrilegious. 

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I know you. 
You and Draco have been doing a 

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decent amount of this exact 
style format, right? 

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Yeah, I think I'm a little over 
30 or so FFPC draft so far this 

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summer. 
So definitely lighter on this 

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platform than on Underdog and 
DraftKings, but been enjoying 

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it. 
The the competition is 

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definitely my my preferred 
competition to go against in 

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these rooms. 
So there's, there's some really 

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fun stuff that you can do here. 
The AD PS are much less 

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efficient much earlier. 
So there's often times I'll be 

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in a draft with Draco, they'll 
say, oh, but that's like, that's

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like a full round reach on ADP 
and like, I don't care the AD PS

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So off here, like I, I don't 
think the guy's coming back to 

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us. 
Let's just take the best player.

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So this is one of the platforms 
where I'll deviate the most from

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ADP and in a in a room where we 
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going to be sharper than usual, 
I would definitely be open to 

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doing that. 
Yeah, Gretsch, we're we're 

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getting our bearings in our 
first FFPC main event slow. 

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By the way, if you guys are ship
chasing VIPs and YouTube 

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members, I'm gonna start 
trickling those out. 

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I'll post our first one 
tomorrow, so keep an eye out for

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that. 
But Gretsch, we get a pretty fun

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bully tight end start here from 
the turn the the Laporta McBride

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at the 1/2. 
Yeah, that was something we 

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talked about a little. 
I can't I can't spoil the the 

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mini. 
So I think every year since 

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since I joined chip chasing, 
I've spoiled the mini sods in 

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one way or another. 
So I'll just say that was 

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something that came up in one of
the episodes. 

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What a vague strategy. 
It's not actually something we 

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went with. 
That's that's the spoiler I'll 

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give, but it's it's fascinating.
Zach, listen, I'm curious if you

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guys do a lot of that or if 
you're into the bully tight end 

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in 10 and premium? 
We definitely, Draco has, has 

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had some really, really good 
articles over the years on how 

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to play the tight end position 
in tight end premium and we 

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would not be doing something 
like sample Porta, Trey McBride 

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at the 1-2 turn there. 
It's more so that when the tight

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ends are the best pick 
available, you can feel pretty 

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comfortable just clicking it and
forgoing the other positions 

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until you get to about three of 
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Like if you find yourself with 
three just absolute stud tight 

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ends, then you're probably good 
because that's the most that you

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can play in any one week. 
With the two flex positions. 

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It's it's really just like don't
be afraid of grabbing the tight 

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end if it's the best player 
available, even if you already 

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have one or two really, really 
powerful ones, just cause the 

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position is so, so strong in 
this format. 

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I mean, you can have guys 
dropping 40 or 50, you know. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Wild to see Puku Nuku at 2:04. 

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That's gonna be probably the 
latest. 

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I think I'm gonna see him go in 
any format this year. 

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Like that's that's a fun little 
gift for the 9 hole. 

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All right, so we are almost up. 
We have seen a bunch of tight 

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ends go now, LaPorte McBride at 
the turn, Kelsey Kincaid, other 

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guys off, a Chan going much 
earlier than his ADP early in 

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the second. 
JT comes off the board. 

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Marvin Harrison, we are on deck 
here. 

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I'm looking at kind of best 
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I'm probably looking at 
something like a a Drake London 

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or Crystal Lavae you. 
What do you guys think here? 

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It looks like London, probably. 
Yeah, I would be London here. 

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The other thing that I would 
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you had the bully tight end 
happen and actually a pretty 

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good pick here because I think 
zebras are the same and it just.

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I was gonna suggest tight end 
because of that. 

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I think that's the biggest 
thing. 

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You would feel like you lost and
you're probably flat otherwise, 

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like Zach said. 
I I'm really glad you mentioned 

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that. 
I think that's definitely how I 

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want to play it. 
Let's grab Andrews here and 

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then. 
Yeah, I just don't think I like 

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London, but I don't know if I'm 
going to feel that much 

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different about the wide 
receiver I take in the early 

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3rd. 
Yeah. 

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Is he really all that different 
to you than Chris Olave or Nico 

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Collins or, you know, Iuke or 
Waddle? 

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Like, probably not. 
But the difference between Mark 

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Andrews and Kyle Pitts feels 
pretty large, and I can tell you

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it's on. 
Two, if Andrews and Pitts both 

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went on this turn, then you 
would have been. 

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Yeah, you're, you're in a world 
of hurt. 

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You're cobbling something 
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Let me set the table a little 
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to FFPC. 
So it is 18 rounds, but the 

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obviously you have the tight end
premium, hence all the tight 

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ends going. 
There are two flexes. 

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So in this format you could 
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you could start four tight ends,
you can start four wide 

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receivers. 
So it's more like an equal plane

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as far as the flex stuff. 
Otherwise pretty similar as far 

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as like overall roster 
construction dynamics, I would 

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assume kind of from a a best 
Ball Mania outlook if that's how

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people are viewing it. 
And then as far as the rewards, 

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I'm pretty sure each individual 
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into next year if you win your 
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might be a top prize too. 
Does that sound right, Gretsch? 

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Sounds as I can't remember at 
all. 

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Yeah, I don't think I've won one
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We got second last year in mind.
Me and me and Sean are drafting 

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tomorrow night. 
We'll be over on the Stealing 

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Signals YouTube for anyone who 
wants to hang for that. 

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Awesome. 
I mean, really the biggest 

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motivator here though, Pete, is 
I feel like you were being 

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disrespected in in the lines 
that were being set for who was 

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gonna come out on top of this 
pros versus Joe's league. 

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So this is just all about. 
What I did? 

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I think it was 12:50. 
I was like middle of the pack 

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odds relative. 
I was not the longest, but I was

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also not the shortest there. 
So yeah, we're playing with a 

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chip on our shoulder tonight. 
Let's see here. 

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Yeah. 
So we have a couple running 

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back, running back starts. 
There's the Bijan Barkley team, 

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the Breece Henry team and the 
Gibbs A Chan team. 

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And we are almost on the clock. 
London does go Crystal Lave, 

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Adam's waddle. 
So this is gonna be putting me 

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at looking at like, is Nico 
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Nico here. 
Feels good, right? 

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Yeah, Nico, I'm guessing Mike 
Evans is another. 

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Yeah, Malik Neighbors, but 
probably Nico's a pick. 

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Yeah, Nico. 
Nico looks like a smasher. 

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For me it would be either Nico 
or Iuke and it's just dealer's 

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choice really. 
Yeah, let's, let's grab, let's 

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grab Nico there. 
Feel good about that pick. 

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And yeah, now looking back on 
that 2V2. 

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Yeah, feel. 
Feel London, London pits or or 

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Andrew's Nico. 
Yeah. 

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And correlation on, on both of 
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There is a a very small you 
could have made an argument here

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to just starve the beast and and
just take pits here over Nico if

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you're feeling really spicy, but
I think Nico's the way I would 

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have played it. 
Yeah. 

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Oh, thank you, Henry, for 
always. 

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I I believe it. 
Hang on, is it? 

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Does it just have 20 on the 
board? 

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But it's only 18 rounds? 
Sacrilegious. 

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No, no, it's, it's 20. 
Rounds it is 20. 

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OK, for some reason I had in my 
head it was 18. 

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My bad. 20 rounds. 
So it is 2 extra rounds there. 

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The the weird thing on FFPC is 
there's some rooms where you're 

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in where you are taking guys 
that you normally would take in 

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the 17th and 16th round on 
Underdog in the 20th. 

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Like this is a gift. 
I just got like 4 extra players 

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that I'm really excited about. 
And then there's rooms where 

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it's like, Oh my God, it's a 
wasteland. 

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Everyone's super sharp. 
Like there hasn't been a good 

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click in forever. 
You're just scrolling real deep.

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I can already tell this is gonna
be a fun room because we have 

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two of the Joes who have started
with three straight running 

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backs. 
We got one of the pros who 

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started with two tight ends. 
So lots of people trying out 

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different strategies here. 
And there's another bully tight 

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end team, Ingram to the Kincaid 
Rafter and Kyle Pitts went smack

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dab there in the third round of 
the Chase and Marvin Harrison 

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team. 
I think that's a really 

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compelling move in these in best
ball when you get the tight end 

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premium and with how strong you 
know, I know I believe and I 

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think most everyone sort of 
believes the like the elite 

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tight ends are. 
I mean, I might be playing that 

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heavier than than most. 
Honestly, when you look at like 

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my underdog portfolio, I'm 
playing it in almost every 

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single draft. 
One of those like top 7:00-ish 

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tight ends. 
But in this format especially 

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like if you can starve the beast
a little, it's way more 

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practical for them to hit the, 
the flex. 

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It's, I mean, I, I think it's 
Todd. 

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Todd did it pretty early at the 
12:13 and then. 

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Because there it's like you're 
giving up. 

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Like, do you really want to give
up puka? 

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Like, you could do Puka McBride 
or Puka La Porta and be in a 

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really good spot 'cause your 
first wide receiver here. 

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Like, yeah, you're not sad that 
you're taking, you know, Malik 

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Neighbors or whoever he takes 
here. 

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But I don't know, I feel a 
little better getting a wide 

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receiver of Puka's caliber 
there. 

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Yeah. 
What have you noticed, like what

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are the quarterback dynamics in 
these? 

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They feel like they go a little 
later. 

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Part of that is from Titan 
Premium, the kind of middling 

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quarterbacks. 
I feel like the rooms often like

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just follow suit. 
Like you just got to see what 

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how the room's going to play it.
Because I've had rooms where 

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everyone gets their early 
quarterback and then everyone 

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just kind of sitting on their 
hands and not going to take a 

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quarterback for a long, long 
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And then just a big run happens.
Like Draco and I had a draft 

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where I want to say it was like 
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round, something like that. 
There was not a single wide 

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receiver or running back taken. 
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tight ends for the entire round.
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that round. 
I think it was 15 straight picks

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or quarterback or tight end, no 
running back or or wide 

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receiver. 
So runs definitely happened more

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on FFPCI would say. 
The other like really key thing 

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that I've been trying to do more
is I like to think of wide 

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receivers kind of like dessert 
on FFPC where you really want to

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save room for them at the end 
because the pricing is really, 

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really inefficient on FFPC in 
the later rounds. 

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At wide receiver, some of the 
biggest ones would be like you 

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can get 80 Mitchell in the 17th 
or 18th round. 

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And so it's like you need to 
have slots open on your roster 

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where you can feel good about 
adding more receivers. 

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And, and that's one of the 
tricky parts on FFPC, you're 

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gonna feel good clicking 
receiver a lot early. 

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And so you might be through 9 
rounds with seven receivers and 

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then you're in round 17 and 
you're like, Oh my gosh, Jalen 

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Polk's here in round 17. 
And I really feel like I can't 

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click him 'cause I, I need to 
take, you know, my second 

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quarterback here or whatever. 
Yeah, a few of these industry 

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drafts. 
So I do, I, I just, I, I think 

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that's really good insight to 
add a little color. 

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I would expect the quarterbacks 
to definitely go late and I do 

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wonder if those inefficient AE 
PS will will last with some of 

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the people that are planning on 
other platforms here in this 

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room. 
And it is something like seeing 

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how these running backs are 
flying off the shelf, like I'm 

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clearly staring down the barrel 
of A0RB team. 

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Not that I'm remotely 
uncomfortable with that. 

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But it is then starting to think
to your point, like I, I really 

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need to start prioritizing 
probably like as much 

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quarterback and tight end as I 
can too, Just knowing like I'm 

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going to want to have some of 
those wide receiver slots 

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available later. 
We're setting ourselves up 

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really well for this is like one
of my favorite positions to be 

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in for quarterback because we'll
very likely take another player 

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here that either is stacking 
with our existing bets or 

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opening up another very good 
quarterback option that we like.

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And then you can just be 
comfortable pushing quarterback 

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and be like, if I don't get 
Lamar, that's OK 'cause I've got

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Stroud that can come back. 
If I don't get that, that's OK, 

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I've got two or whoever else we 
open up that's gonna come back. 

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We do see our first wow first 
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Allen Ferguson, Stefan Diggs 
Feels like a smash for this team

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here. 
What do you guys think? 

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To me he's still in the tier 
above DJ Moore, Pitman, even 

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Devonta Smith. 
To me, I, I, I don't know, I 

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don't understand Stefan Diggs 
current fall at on underdog. 

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It makes no sense to me. 
Yeah, I would. 

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I would hammer Diggs here. 
Yeah, let's do it. 

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So we get the our second Houston
wide receiver. 

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So we start Tyree kill, then 
grab Mark Andrews, then Nico and

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Stefan Diggs comes to us here. 
And I guess like technically by 

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ADP, it's actually slightly 
ahead. 

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But man, these, these, this, 
they must not like Stefan Diggs,

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their holy cow. 
I think you got that. 

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That X drafter is one of the 
joes that you probably joke 

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here. 
I don't know if it's the three 

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or the five hole, but you got a 
a hyper fragile build forming in

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the three hole. 
You got a three straight running

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back plus Jake Ferguson build 
out of the five hole. 

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Yeah, fascinating room. 
It's open up some wide receiver 

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values. 
I was, I was gonna say, if, if 

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Jalen Hurts made it back to us, 
I think you'd just take Jalen 

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Hurts in the fifth round 'cause 
it's like that's not where he 

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should go, you know? 
And that's I noticed that on it 

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happens on FFPC and it happens 
on DraftKings. 

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For whatever reason, I feel like
people just have recency bias. 

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Like Jalen Hurts didn't finish 
that strong last year. 

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It's like, OK, I'll take all the
Jalen Hurts you'll give me in 

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the fifth round. 
Yeah. 

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I think. 
Yeah, so the the team we're 

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talking about in the three did 
Bijan, Barkley, ETN, then 

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Jacobs, Hertz does go like Zach 
said, there's second to last 

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pick in this round. 
Then Patrick Mahomes goes to the

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turn drafter and then they come 
back with Higgins. 

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What do do we think? 
Would we just lock up the Lamar 

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if he comes back here? 
I would I mean. 

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I would have a lean toward 
Stroud over Lamar in this build 

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personally. 
I also because this isn't a 

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playoff, this is total points, 
right? 

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And you're making a bet on Nico 
and Diggs in a way that to me, I

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would be more leaning towards 
Stroud, which means I'd maybe 

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let Lamar go and try to get 
Stroud. 

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The 6-7 was the way I would 
think about it, but. 

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The only thing I do in this 
room, I would not be surprised 

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if someone sets up like a tank. 
Yeah. 

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Stroud. 
Oh, there goes tank right there.

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Oh, interesting. 
So maybe that's less likely. 

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Yeah. 
What do we you think these 

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drafters will take? 
Naked naked Stroud. 

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They might. 
I usually the way that it goes 

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for me is I will push Lamar here
because you have outs to both 

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Lamar and Stroud and you, you do
have the backup out of pay. 

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If, if Tua is your consolation 
prize stack with Tyreek. 

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That feels perfectly fine to me.
So I try to push it to extract a

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lot of value from it 'cause if 
you get Lamar back, you're just 

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windmilling it in and I think 
what are your good? 

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Players. 
Here. 

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So it it would probably be Zay, 
yeah, probably take Zay and then

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just see if I can hit one of the
double stacks. 

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That's what I would do. 
Mash Yeah, that feels awesome. 

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Let's do it. 
I there's, there's I think it's 

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like less than 15%. 
Lamar comes back, but it's 

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probably worth that 15. 
I'll say this, going into Week 

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14, you're gonna have the lead. 
I'm not sure it's gonna be after

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Week 14 going into a 14. 
You're gonna you're gonna be in 

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a good spot. 
It does make me feel better to 

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have the tank drafter behind me 
though. 

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That's that's really nice. 
There's one other player I would

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have considered here, but I 
don't wanna say it just 'cause 

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it it could get back to us. 
OK, I'll I'll put it in the chat

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here. 
Anyone try the high draft 

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strategy tonight? 
Not not me. 

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I did a little overnight trip 
with some buddies last night, so

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I had all my fun and debauchery 
for the weekend last night. 

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Yesterday those those people who
who popped onto my stream 

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yesterday, I had like 50 drafts 
after this golf tournament 

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yesterday was very drunk and 
tried to jump on and have the 

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chat make my picks for me. 
That was my stream on the Still 

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in Signals YouTube channel 
yesterday. 

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I. 
Was going to. 

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Hang out for a bit. 
Yeah, someone, someone mentioned

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or I saw someone reference that 
and I was like, wait, what did 

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you do? 
Because yeah, you were golfing 

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all day, right? 
I was golfing all day, I was way

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behind on my pics and I was 
legit drunk and I was like I 

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don't want to make these pics. 
I'm just going to go live and 

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have the chat help like 
whoever's around to like tell me

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what pics I'm seeing and not 
seeing. 

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It did you actually, yeah. 
Yeah, so I took my first years 

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as Zeke of the year I took my 
first. 

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I took a Tony Pollard when when 
Karen was on. 

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I haven't drafted him yet. 
These are like the the the 

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flashy memories I had this 
morning where like God, it took 

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a lot of shitty players 
yesterday. 

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But yeah, I let. 
I let, I let. 

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Jesus, take the wheel a little 
bit. 

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Yesterday it was quite fun. 
So Sig does take Lamar there at 

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5-10. 
That dream goes down. 

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But I I like the way we played 
this. 

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And getting another high upside 
wide receiver option here. 

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The chat chat's also reminded me
that I took a shit ton of 

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Giovante and a shit ton of 
Bowers. 

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All my slows are right in that 
range and I was just hammering 

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those two guys. 
Let's see here. 

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So Anthony Richardson also comes
off the board seeing some more 

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running backs. 
James Cook, Joe Mixon, Rashad 

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White, Aaron Jones from Andre 
Stevenson. 

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This is a super micro thing, but
on FFPC just because it is ever 

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so slightly a boost in scoring 
format to the pocket passers 

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like you get more points for 
passing yardage. 

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I do, you know, that's, that's 
one of the reasons I'm willing 

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to push Lamar a little bit more 
because it's like I, I think 

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there might not be as large a 
difference between Lamar and 

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Stroud in this format. 
Gotcha. 

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I just yeah, that's a great 
point. 

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I I just went to the chat and 
saw that you you had the guy you

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were saying you didn't want to 
say you put the chat was Bowers.

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I thought I I mentioned him. 
I I I broke the the cardinal sin

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of mentioning a name. 
I I mean, I knew he wasn't 

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getting back to us. 
It was a, you know, snowball's 

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chance in hell to get back to us
at six O 9. 

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But I was I was thinking about 
him over Zay just cuz really 

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like once Bowers has gone here, 
it's like the last one that you 

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even really feel good about is 
kind of like Dallas Goddard. 

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And and then it starts to get 
very gross. 

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So like the guys in the 1-2 and 
three hole, two of them are 

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gonna be really sad. 
Two of them are gonna have teams

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that that are just gonna have a 
really hard time competing 

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because of tight end. 
So I'm interested to see how the

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rock fight shakes out there for.
Who gets? 

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Are you pretty out on a Joku, I 
take it? 

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He's fine. 
I just think that like his where

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he goes on FFPC is a little 
expensive relative to like what 

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he is compared to the the other 
guys that you can get. 

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So he's fine. 
Like what? 

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I mean, if I was one of the 1-2 
or three hole, I'm certainly not

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gonna turn my nose up at David 
and Joku when I'm in that spot. 

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So let's see, we had Terry 
Mclaurin go, Christian Kirk, 

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Chris Godwin, a lot of these 
bully tight end and running back

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drafters swinging back to wide 
receiver here and there goes CJ 

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Stroud naked. 
It happens. 

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Unstacked. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, you're, you're, you're 
all, you know, steal on the 

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exterior. 
I'm gonna, I'm gonna feel it for

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you. 
That was brutal. 

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Well, this makes me wonder, you 
know, with how much again, 

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looking at this tier of wide 
receiver, there's definitely 

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some wide receivers I like. 
I wonder if this would be like a

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detour spot for like Kenneth 
Walker. 

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Just again, trying to think 
through of like if I just blast 

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off all of my wide receiver 
slots. 

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What do you guys think? 
Yeah, I mean, you'd be getting 

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him after like Aaron Jones and 
Romandre went the last turn. 

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He goes before those guys 
typically right over on Underdog

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Mixing White. 
I like him in that group. 

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It seems like a good price 
relative to that stuff. 

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He's a he's a big ADP value 
here. 

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He does not go this late. 
The latest he's gone is pick 70.

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So you know, just a spot after 
us. 

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So this is like one of the 
latest he's ever gone in the 

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entire tournament. 
So I would. 

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I think, I think that just feels
good, 'cause I know I'm gonna, 

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I'm gonna like one of the wide 
receivers in the early 7th here.

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It looks like what the only guy 
available with a higher ADP than

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him was Kamera. 
It's still on the board. 

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That was a really nice value. 
I mean, if you think about the 

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structure too, as you were 
saying, like you already have a 

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lot of receivers you didn't want
to just blast off all those 

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spots. 
Like getting that anchor like 

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dead zonie anchor back out of 
ADP value when he's actually a 

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profile you like is pretty nice 
for the build right? 

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Well, there goes Dallas Goddard.
Yeah. 

446
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,480
So best of luck to the one and 
three hole. 

447
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,000
I'll be interested to see who's 
drafting Lucas Kroll of the two.

448
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,000
Yeah, I think Matt with Hertz in
the fourth was praying Goddard. 

449
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,120
When you said that about 
Goddard, I was like, I'm sure 

450
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:23,320
he's hoping he gets him back. 
He. 

451
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,600
Usually goes a little later than
this but I'm not. 

452
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,560
I would I would do it too if I 
was the two hole. 

453
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840
Yeah, four teams already have 
two, two tight ends. 

454
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,600
Yeah, there's like a bunch of 
others that don't have any. 

455
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,400
It's it's a wild, wild draft so 
far in that regard. 

456
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:41,600
Imbalance. 
Tight end picking. 

457
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,480
Yeah, now this, this starts to 
feel like a little bit of a, a 

458
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,640
Wild West territory for for ADP 
stuff. 

459
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,200
The good news is I think there's
a couple really good values 

460
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,560
still on the board. 
And now that Kamara is gone, 

461
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,200
you're pretty much guaranteed to
get one of these really good 

462
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,480
picks. 
So that's all I yeah. 

463
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,360
Kind of load up my queue here 
as. 

464
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,480
I get the, I get to be the the 
voice of the chat and be like, I

465
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,160
wonder who those are 'cause I, I
can't see behind the seats right

466
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:28,600
now. 
I'm like. 

467
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,120
So Rashi Rice does go at this 
6-7 turn to the one hole. 

468
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,040
I miss the days where you used 
to be able to get Rashi in the 

469
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,320
ninth and 10th round on FFPC. 
Yeah, man, he is just a 

470
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,800
screamer. 
These days, Paul, I mean, it's 

471
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,240
price never made any sense where
it was gone. 

472
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,360
Yeah, it was insane. 
We didn't even have confirmation

473
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:58,240
of suspension. 
So I would say my favorite guy 

474
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,120
here is probably Jaden Reed. 
Do you see anything else on the 

475
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,320
board here? 
I mean, a couple other names. 

476
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,280
I think there's a chance they 
could come back. 

477
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,040
That are pretty interesting. 
Yeah. 

478
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,840
The other ones that are 
interesting can come back and 

479
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,000
some of the other ones that I'm 
looking at that are interesting 

480
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,720
don't open up a quarterback like
Jaden Reid does. 

481
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,920
And I think that's important for
us because four of our picks 

482
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,920
don't have quarterbacks attached
to them that we can still draft.

483
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,200
So Reid is a a smash here. 
Yeah, one of my favorite clicks 

484
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,560
on underdog. 
I like getting him here and 

485
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,640
yeah, I'm I'm I'm really glad 
we're able to grab Walker there.

486
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,360
I think that this build just 
obviously we would have liked 

487
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,600
the receiver there, but I think 
it would have just limited our 

488
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,720
flexibility through some of 
these mid rounds. 

489
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,400
Yeah, at this point, this is 
where I'm I'm probably pumping 

490
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,320
the brakes on receiver, which is
gonna be really painful next 

491
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,040
round. 
We're gonna get it's gonna come 

492
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,800
back to us. 
The best pick on the board is 

493
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,000
gonna be a receiver and and 
we're gonna have to just watch 

494
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,720
it go, but it'll pay off in the 
end. 

495
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,080
I mean, even even if this room 
is more aggressive on some of 

496
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,200
the really mispriced players, I 
think that we've got enough 

497
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,400
people that are, you know, doing
stuff like being really 

498
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,880
aggressive on running back where
there's still gonna be some wide

499
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,880
receiver value. 
We'll be happy to capitalize on 

500
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,160
later. 
So the team here for our audio 

501
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,760
listeners, Tyree Kill round one,
Mark Andrews round two and then 

502
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,800
we had three straight receivers,
Nico digs, they flowers, the 

503
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,400
Lamar and Stroud dream died 
there. 

504
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,920
And then we grabbed Kenneth 
Walker and Jayden Reid to round 

505
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,600
out the team. 
But with that tight end and win 

506
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:43,120
that wide running back, we still
have plenty of optionality here 

507
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:46,560
in the chamber. 
I'm sorry, but the unstacked 

508
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,960
Stroud pick still kind of 
tilting. 

509
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,520
It's you're trying to win not 
just this league, but it's this 

510
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,480
pros versus Joes contest. 
There's what like seven or eight

511
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,960
different leagues? 
You're trying to get the overall

512
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,480
top points. 
Shroud's a drop back passer. 

513
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:07,840
If he is worth the sixth round 
price tag, you have to have Nico

514
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,640
Diggs or or Tank Dell and then 
you take Friday Muth over Dalton

515
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,240
Schultz right there. 
I mean, that's crazy. 

516
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,640
Like you would have to take 
Dalton Schultz there to justify 

517
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,440
it. 
In my opinion. 

518
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,000
That guy's not winning the 
overall thing. 

519
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,320
It's just there's not enough 
correlation. 

520
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,920
There's all these other drafts 
where Stroud's gonna be picked 

521
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,440
with one of his earlier 
receivers and if he is the full 

522
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,600
season 5000 yard passer, like 
you want one of those receivers?

523
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,840
I just think it's AI. 
Don't. 

524
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,080
Know we. 
And you kind of set your team up

525
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,040
there, not to pick on our 
drafter Scott here, but like 

526
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,040
with Jefferson, Metcalf, Cooper 
in two early running backs, you 

527
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,720
probably need to catch up at 
wide receiver and you have three

528
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,240
late quarterback options as well
with that start. 

529
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,840
That's right. 
But we're over it, right? 

530
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,080
We're over it. 
We've moved on. 

531
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,920
We've. 
Moved on. 

532
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,280
You need to open your third eye 
and view Noah Brown as the wide 

533
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,120
receiver that you need with the 
CJS. 

534
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Strategy back. 
Famously was was one of your 

535
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,480
best weeks on the underdog 
dailies, right Pete? 

536
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,400
I I remember drafting in some 
rooms with you seeing you do the

537
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,240
Noah Brown tank Dell stuff. 
Like man, I get scrolling down, 

538
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600
but what the heck is Pete doing 
with Noah Brown? 

539
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,680
And then sure enough. 
Yeah, those were. 

540
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,080
I mean, and the thing was there 
were weeks where you didn't even

541
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,040
have to do Noah Brown. 
You could just do Tank Dell and 

542
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,000
Schultz, like because Nico would
be drafted and everyone and 

543
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,720
everyone was like 5% tank or 
whatever. 

544
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,520
For people asking, yes, this is 
this is a basketball league. 

545
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,240
Thank the Lord we're gonna have 
enough managed leagues to to 

546
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,280
deal with here working on a 
summer Sunday. 

547
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,360
I know you guys are so blessed. 
And like Gretsch said, if you 

548
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,000
guys wanna watch his Pros versus
Joes with Sean, that's gonna be 

549
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,200
on the Stealing Signals YouTube 
tomorrow. 

550
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,120
Jordan Love goes unstacked. 
That's a painful one. 

551
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:04,200
It is, it does feel. 
Pain the 420 Express the. 420 

552
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,000
Express. 
Gotta live a little. 

553
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,960
I'm gonna get on the 420 Express
if my quarterbacks keep again, 

554
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,640
staying clear. 
Good chases. 

555
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,600
So it is, yeah, for, for and 
it's like this is going back to,

556
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,240
I assume you alluded to another 
pick. 

557
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,480
I believe when we took Zay, I'm 
guessing it was T about opening 

558
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,200
up a Burrow selection like 
having Burrow in our pocket 

559
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280
right now. 
I, if I could go flip that just 

560
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,480
for the quarterback option. 
I I I would right now. 

561
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,880
Yeah. 
It was Bowers. 

562
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,160
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 
true. 

563
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Yeah. 
Bowers is the one I was alluding

564
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,840
to. 
And then when we got to Jaden 

565
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,880
Reed, one of the ones I was 
alluding to, well, they they 

566
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,120
actually both go. 
One of the ones I was alluding 

567
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,520
to was savior worthy. 
The other one was Roma Doomsay. 

568
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,800
So worthy without the 
quarterback, at Doomsay with the

569
00:30:54,800 --> 00:31:01,040
quarterback. 
Yeah, the. 

570
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,960
It's and JSN goes way higher 
than ADP here. 

571
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
I actually realized after I said
that I was the voice of the chat

572
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,400
that I have Pete's login, so I 
could just I, I what something I

573
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,920
have that the chat doesn't have 
is the ability to go look at 

574
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,680
that. 
And you do have. 

575
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,880
That queue, so I'm looking at 
the queue. 

576
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,520
It's not, it's pretty picked 
through at receiver now. 

577
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,520
I mean, it's not you were 
thinking Zach, there'd be a 

578
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,680
clear pick here. 
I guess there's one. 

579
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,040
I was hoping Worthy would come 
back. 

580
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,640
I I thought he might. 
I I wasn't, I was wanting to say

581
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,720
anything. 
Him and JSN looked way down the 

582
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,040
list by ADP, but they. 
There's there's a couple 

583
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,040
receivers here still that are 
really appealing, but I would 

584
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,880
not be taking them here. 
Yeah, I have. 

585
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,040
Yeah, the two names I'm 
thinking, I mean, what what do 

586
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,120
we think about the Jay and 
Daniel stuff like as far as 

587
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,640
getting a quarterback for this 
team? 

588
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,400
I was, I was gonna say try to 
push Jayden Daniels around the 

589
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,320
turn, but I was gonna say that 
in the chat so that we didn't 

590
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,880
have to say Jayden Daniels out 
loud. 

591
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,360
The other one that I would 
consider would be Jonathan 

592
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,160
Brooks. 
Here that's that's the name, 

593
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,480
man. 
I do like it, but it's full 

594
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,400
season points, it's not back 
weighted production, it's full 

595
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,720
season points. 
Score right and I. 

596
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,360
Think. 
I think it's probably fine 

597
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,560
though. 
I mean this is still. 

598
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,000
If he's still down the stretch, 
he's still a really useful piece

599
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,520
to a best ball build because 
your figure in your running 

600
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,200
backroom actually starts to get 
some. 

601
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,360
If you're if you're really 
worried about it, then we take 

602
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,040
Daniels here first 'cause 
there's a couple other R BS that

603
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,760
I like. 
You know you're worried about 

604
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,280
the back waiting. 
What it I'm I guess I'm not as 

605
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,440
much I'm more trying to think 
who has the best chance of 

606
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,280
coming back and I just I don't 
know what this three drafter, 

607
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,000
this three drafter can do 
anything. 

608
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,160
The the thing like the 
lamdrafter still has DAC. 

609
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Oh well, now. 
He doesn't unstacked and then 

610
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,120
Brooks goes, Brooks is a nice 
pick in in, in best ball. 

611
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,080
I've taken him in the marathon 
over an underdog. 

612
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,880
I, I, I kind of probably 
shouldn't have said that 'cause 

613
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,040
I think it layers in really 
nicely actually, 'cause you're 

614
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,160
expecting some attrition with 
your other running backs. 

615
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,440
They give you early season 
points. 

616
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,800
He gives you back weighted. 
There's almost like a a pro to 

617
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,080
him not really playing a lot 
early on, right? 

618
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,520
Like you, you're like, you're 
gonna get usable weeks down the 

619
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,320
stretch. 
That's great. 

620
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,880
That's that's actually something
that is hard to to lock in from 

621
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:29,440
most running back builds. 
Yep, yeah, man, I guess yeah, if

622
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,120
I know, if I know that drafter 
snap picks Dak, then maybe the 

623
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,280
Hurts and Mahomes guys aren't. 
But I guess I I have a hard time

624
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,840
profiling what teams are gonna 
do in this this format. 

625
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,080
Like I don't I think. 
Daniels. 

626
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,720
Is a couple. 
Yeah, I think Daniels is a very 

627
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,520
good pick. 
Yeah, very good pick. 

628
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,880
It way definitely, yeah, it 
alleviates a bunch of our our 

629
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,120
pain in this room, which was, Oh
no, we don't have a great 

630
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,880
ability to get a good stat 
quarterback. 

631
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,640
And way different, Yeah, exactly
way different than the strata 

632
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,120
conversation. 
He's not a drop back passer. 

633
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,080
He's going to score through 
rushing. 

634
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,160
You don't have like his forward 
momentum for a huge season. 

635
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,400
Doesn't have to include a 
receiver necessarily. 

636
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,679
He could have he could throw for
3800 yards and be the QB one if 

637
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,679
if he ends up rushing for like 
1200 yards, which he could do 

638
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,159
right away, it wouldn't be that 
crazy. 

639
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,760
Yeah, so wow, the so Naji goes 
as does TJ Hawkinson at the 8-9.

640
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,000
That's the one hole scrambling 
for a tight end. 

641
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,639
Brandon Cooks comes off the 
board here. 

642
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,639
So there is the name that 
Gretsch mentioned in the chat. 

643
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:35,159
But I do I kind of like I do 
like Zach Moss here, I think a 

644
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:39,960
good bit. 
And again, if we keep if the 

645
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,000
thought is we're going to 
continue to like some of these 

646
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,239
wide receivers available, I 
think getting a second running 

647
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,480
back feels good. 
Yeah, I really like Zach Moss 

648
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,040
here. 
I think that puts you in a 

649
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,280
pretty strong position. 
Yeah. 

650
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,520
So our past 2 picks, Jane 
Daniels and Zach Moss. 

651
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,880
So we have two running backs, 
Moss and Walker. 

652
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,360
We got our one quarterback, Jane
Daniels, our one tight end, Mark

653
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,200
Andrews, and still our five wide
receivers, Tyree Kill, Nico 

654
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,800
Collins, Digs Flowers and Jaden 
Reed. 

655
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,280
I've been clicking Moss a lot 
more than the last couple days 

656
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,360
in that range that all my sloves
are in and I don't want to 

657
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,240
because I don't think he's 
particularly good. 

658
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,920
I don't think it's efficiency 
metrics last year are super 

659
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,840
helpful because I felt like he 
had a couple long runs, couple 

660
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,600
big plays, couple moments that 
were like you or I could have 

661
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,600
ran through it through these 
holes basically like he was not 

662
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,440
explosive. 
And yet I do feel very confident

663
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,280
the Bengals are going to have 
running back points. 

664
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,160
And if Chase Brown's not it and 
I'm taking plane in Chase Brown 

665
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,880
too, Zac Moss at this price, 
like if he just gets a lot of 

666
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,440
work, Joe Mixon never added 
anything efficiency wise, right?

667
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,120
Like if Joe Mixon at this price 
would be going, people were 

668
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,560
saying Joe Mixon the last few 
years was way underpriced in the

669
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,560
five six round range. 
You're getting Zach Moss in the 

670
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,680
9th if he gets anything like the
Joe Mixon workload. 

671
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,280
Feels really, really nice. 
Yeah, he's probably a little bit

672
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,600
worse as a player than Joe Mixon
was, you know, two years ago 

673
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120
when people were saying he's 
underpriced in the 5-6 range. 

674
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,920
But it's like, OK, and he's we 
just took him in the 9th, so it 

675
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,880
seems fair. 
It seems great, Brock Pretty 

676
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,120
coming off basketball. 
Brian Thomas was another name we

677
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,920
were kind of floating around. 
He goes to Theo there. 

678
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,920
That was a great pick. 
He would have been nice too to 

679
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:29,000
keep to open up Lawrence, Brian 
Robinson comes off the board, 

680
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,160
Devin Singletary and Jamison 
Williams. 

681
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,400
So the I wouldn't say this draft
is breaking perfectly, but I 

682
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,200
feel pretty strong with this 
team so far. 

683
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,880
I think for the curve balls that
you got tossed, you're you're 

684
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:49,960
hitting pretty well here, so. 
Yeah, yeah. 

685
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,960
I think the, I really the, the 
suggestion, I think, I think 

686
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,760
getting the, the Mark Andrews 
and the Kenneth Walker there 

687
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:01,360
have made this feel less like we
had, you know, there's versions 

688
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,040
where this is like A0RB team 
that like absolutely needs those

689
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,120
quarterbacks to get unlocked 
because then we don't have wide 

690
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,560
receiver spots to build out more
backdoor stacks. 

691
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,360
And now we actually have that 
still. 

692
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:26,760
Let's see every every team 
except team eight has at least 

693
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,480
one quarterback, Stacey. 
No quarterbacks, although with 

694
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,240
Evan Ingram there she seems like
a candidate for Lawrence. 

695
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,840
I mean, I gotta say, this hasn't
fallen to you in any kind of 

696
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,680
perfect way. 
No, but your team looks really 

697
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,960
good Despite that. 
You you have a really nice 

698
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,760
balance right now through 9 
rounds. 

699
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,840
You got a QB that you like, you 
got a tight end that you like, 

700
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,400
you got 2 running backs, 5 
receivers. 

701
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,080
I think that makes a lot of 
sense through 9 rounds, a lot of

702
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,360
different directions you can go.
Zach, in this spot, when you 

703
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,680
have Jane Daniels, how many 
times are do you have a 2QB 

704
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:06,800
versus 3QB team this year? 
More often do I get to three QB 

705
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,320
than I would have last year, but
it's really just a byproduct of 

706
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,520
the landscape where there are a 
lot of late quarterback options 

707
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,880
that have a legitimate ceiling 
in my opinion to where I'm I'm 

708
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,760
adding them not as a third QB to
make me feel safer to build for 

709
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,720
floor. 
It's a a player that's there to 

710
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:29,680
add ceiling to my roster. 
So it's definitely a different 

711
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,080
dynamic than last season. 
Last season I was a pretty 

712
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,920
strong proponent of really just 
taking two quarterbacks in 

713
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,240
almost every build. 
And that was even when I was 

714
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:44,240
doing guys like, hey, I'm taking
Sam Howell and Jordan Love and 

715
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,200
those are my two quarterbacks, 
so that's fine. 

716
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,360
Which worked out OK last year, 
but this year there's just more 

717
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,680
guys going late that I I really 
like. 

718
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,320
So I'm willing to toss those 
ones on as a pure upside play. 

719
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,120
Yeah, I'm looking at the board 
now. 

720
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,760
I'm not seeing there's, I guess 
there's one interesting wide 

721
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,000
receiver name, kind of a flat 
tier of running backs. 

722
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:18,840
I do. 
I do like the I think the two to

723
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,920
stack up with Tyreek Hill makes 
a decent amount of sense. 

724
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,080
I mean, Shouf out of the two has
been sniping me a ton. 

725
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,480
He already has Waddle. 
There's a really good chance 

726
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,280
Tua's not coming back around. 
I mean, do you guys see any 

727
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,960
opportunity cost to to taking 
Tua here? 

728
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,240
There's there's a player, but I 
think you're fine. 

729
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,400
I think there's a couple things 
that you can do around the turn.

730
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,120
You're you're not gonna miss. 
There's gonna be a good pick 

731
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:50,160
otherwise after the turn. 
So I think you take Tua here and

732
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,360
then we're very comfy sitting on
2 quarterbacks and then we are 

733
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,600
in the position where a third is
a pure luxury for sealing. 

734
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,480
I mean, you probably just gave 
up Javonte Williams, which was 

735
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,200
probably the biggest mistake you
could have made. 

736
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,320
We don't want to say Javonte 
Williams out loud. 

737
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Gretch, I don't know. 
You're in on him, too. 

738
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,440
Everyone's telling me he's a bad
pick over the last few days. 

739
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,280
He's he's maybe like my third or
fourth highest drafted running 

740
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:13,800
back. 
I got. 

741
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,640
I got a gang of Javante. 
There we go. 

742
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,880
I the the best news that I saw 
all week was the article from 

743
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,640
someone that just was 
postulating that Javante may be 

744
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,720
cut in favor of Samaj AP Ryan. 
I I wanted to share that one 

745
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:30,040
with everyone that I. 
Could give you. 

746
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,320
So I got back. 
That was yesterday. 

747
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Apparently yesterday morning 
while I was golfing, I got back 

748
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,560
drunk, got on stream and had 
like staff and all these people 

749
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,160
on my chat telling me that 
Javante is going to get cut. 

750
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,080
And it was not, not a fun, a fun
moment. 

751
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,040
But I kept drafting him. 
They were like, we we're gonna 

752
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,960
have an intervention. 
You had the the alcohol clarity 

753
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,560
to know that that report was 
fault. 

754
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,640
No, yeah, I it's what was it's 
like Troy Rennick or whatever 

755
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,240
his name is Denver B report. 
And he it was like, it's just 

756
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:01,520
speculation. 
He was. 

757
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,760
Seemed like a pretty wild take, 
but. 

758
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,920
It was one of those, hey, guys, 
wouldn't this be crazy if this 

759
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,960
happens? 
Yeah, my column. 

760
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,640
My column, yeah, Steph's right. 
She was saying that I should 

761
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,240
wait on him. 
I was reaching and I was like, 

762
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,880
Nope, I'm just going to blow 
through all the stuff, all the 

763
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,760
red lights and just keep taking 
him ahead of ADP. 

764
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,080
Yeah, if I if I had CJ Stroud, 
this would probably be a pretty 

765
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,720
good place to take Dalton 
Schultz. 

766
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,360
It'd be a great, it'd be a great
spot to take Schultz. 

767
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,960
I think the other one you could 
justify would be Commet who I'm 

768
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,240
like, I just recently got a 
little more scared of taking, 

769
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:46,080
but it's tight in premium and 
it's getting getting dicey and 

770
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,920
beggars can't be choosers. 
He also doesn't have a week 14 

771
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,200
by where Schultz does so. 
The profile is really strong on 

772
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,240
Comet. 
I'll say the advanced metrics, 

773
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,680
the per outrun stuff actually 
was a lot better last year than 

774
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,480
I think he gets credit for. 
People are really concerned 

775
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,800
about Gerald Everett, but what 
if Gerald Everett's bad? 

776
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,360
Pat actually told me yesterday 
when he came on the stream that 

777
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,920
Gerald Everett kind of quietly 
was another guy put on the NFI 

778
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,720
list. 
He did go on NFI, yeah. 

779
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,240
Yeah, people are really 
confident that Comet's not gonna

780
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:13,400
get enough work. 
And like his profile in and of 

781
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,000
itself is pretty strong. 
So I I think you have to be 

782
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,880
pretty confident that you have 
the read of volume correct. 

783
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,720
Yeah, I like this. 
I think there's like one or two 

784
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,960
tight ends that could be in our 
back pocket late. 

785
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,960
That makes sense for this team, 
but doesn't preclude us. 

786
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,040
I mean, do you, do you have any 
teams where you've done like a 

787
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,680
four tight end build with say 
similar draft capital that we've

788
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,120
spent so far? 
Yeah, I'd definitely stop at 4 

789
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,880
here, but you can stop at 4:00 
or you can stop at 3. 

790
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,880
It's just like the be willing to
take the Titan if that's the 

791
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,920
best player available. 
One of the cool things about 

792
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,520
FFPC as a format is the two flex
spots actually really open up 

793
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,680
what you can do from a roster 
construction standpoint and have

794
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,520
it still be good. 
There's just a lot less you can 

795
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,000
do on underdog. 
That's that's good. 

796
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,080
You know, like there's, you 
know, you can, you can get 

797
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,840
flexible. 
There's there's lots of viable 

798
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,120
builds. 
But when you are on FFPC, there 

799
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,040
are a ton of viable builds. 
Like you could end up with a 

800
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,880
hyper fragile running back room 
with just four on this and end 

801
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,680
up with something like 5 tight 
ends and three quarterback. 

802
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,400
You know, like you can. 
You can have some really strange

803
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,920
looking constructions here and 
have them still be good. 

804
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,680
So when this Scott guy out of 
the seven hole took Stroud and 

805
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,720
then took Fryermuth, and I'd say
took Fryermuth over Schultz, 

806
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:38,760
doesn't Schultz go ahead of 
Fryermuth on an underdog or am I

807
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,800
just crazy? 
He does, but on FFPC he does not

808
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:49,720
FFPC loves Pat Fryermuth. 
I don't know exactly why it it 

809
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:53,360
may just be more of a, you know,
he he's a real lunch pail type 

810
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,360
guy. 
And so it's more on brand here. 

811
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,680
But yeah, Fryermuth. 
Does go 4 rounds after Fryermuth

812
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,560
on on FFPC? 
That's crazy. 

813
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,960
Yeah, this Schultz wasn't ADP 
value here. 

814
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,120
He usually goes around pick one 
O 5. 

815
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,320
So he's actually a pretty, 
pretty substantial value here. 

816
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,880
I'm pretty surprised three 
didn't take him, honestly. 33 

817
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,000
needed to jump on that like it 
was a gift because it was. 

818
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,600
But I mean, good, good on 7 for 
capitalizing. 

819
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,720
Anytime you can stack up Keon 
Coleman and Khalil Shakur at the

820
00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:31,480
turn when you don't have Josh 
Allen, I mean, how to make that 

821
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,600
happen? 
Eckler finally comes off the 

822
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,120
board. 
He was a big, big faller by ADP.

823
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,000
Yeah, this this next pick seems 
like it's probably gonna land in

824
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,200
a in a sweet spot for running 
back, but we shall see. 

825
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,320
Stack typing in the private chat
is so loud on the mic. 

826
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,560
I'll I'll have to mute Mike next
time I decide to type away. 

827
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,880
Well, all the guys I'm putting 
in the private chat are just 

828
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,280
going right off the board, I 
typed. 

829
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,600
Charbonnet would be a smash if 
he doesn't make it. 

830
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,760
We can do must wave and be done 
at three tight ends here. 

831
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,760
So. 
I'm just jinxing all of the pics

832
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,400
that I want. 
Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean 

833
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,680
like Charbonnay with with 
Walker, I think it's just what? 

834
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,920
But getting that huge ADP value 
there just locks up that entire 

835
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,880
backfield that we know is gonna 
be fully condensed. 

836
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,800
Yeah, Charbonnay, like 20 picks 
past ADP was what I was 

837
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,560
interested in. 
Yeah. 

838
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,320
I mean, I, I didn't think he 
would make it back to us, but he

839
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,520
he just kept sliding like maybe 
people in this room just don't 

840
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,840
like him, but. 
Yeah, you know, he's still on 

841
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,000
the board. 
Sacrilegious. 

842
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,680
I don't think we need him, 
actually. 

843
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,240
That's when we should say his 
name. 

844
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:04,560
We want someone to take him. 
Yeah. 

845
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,280
Jerry. 
Judy still available. 

846
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Yep. 
All right. 

847
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,600
Let's play a game. 
How much Jerry Judy do I have? 

848
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,440
Jerry Judy. 
So much so that I want to get 

849
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,040
through the bottom of. 
How much Jerry Judy do I have 

850
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,440
through 1100 drafts across? 
Every site across every site. 

851
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,640
Yeah. 
I think you've you've taken him 

852
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,720
like twice. 
What do you think, Gretch? 

853
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,640
23 times. 
Let's see. 

854
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,400
Yeah, it's right about 23. 
I got like 5%. 

855
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,440
Jerry, Judy So. 
Wow, fake Jerry Judy hater in 

856
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,680
the light of night. 
Wait, you said 1100, so that 

857
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,600
would be 22. 
I almost nailed that. 

858
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,880
Yeah, yeah. 
That's that's almost. 

859
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,920
That's very eerie, Gretch. 
You got the Jerry Judy comfort 

860
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,720
blanket on? 
Well, because he is a good play.

861
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,560
I know that you're smart enough 
to recognize that you have an 

862
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,600
irrational personal hate of a 
player. 

863
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,640
That's also a good play. 
I think he's bad, but I also 

864
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,120
think that the cost that I'm 
having to pay for a bad player 

865
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,400
is is fine given is. 
Affordable enough to get 5%. 

866
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,600
I have to do it too. 
Sometimes it's not fun. 

867
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,920
All right. 
We are coming up here on our 

868
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,960
12th round pick. 
Our past couple picks have been 

869
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,560
Cole, Commet and Tua. 
We see three tight ends come off

870
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,840
the board, including one that 
would have been a stack partner 

871
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,160
for us, Johnny Smith. 
Zeke now comes off the board. 

872
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,960
I have a running back I'm eyeing
here guys. 

873
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:29,480
Hell yeah, I would run to the 
podium for him. 

874
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,680
You put him in the queue, right?
Yeah, I was thinking Kendra 

875
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,920
Miller. 
I doubt this drafter is going to

876
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,240
take a running back here with 
Three and Gus, but you never 

877
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:43,120
know. 
You like Kendra here, Zach. 

878
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,360
Yeah, Kendra. 
Kendra is definitely a good fit 

879
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,440
for the team. 
We need running back. 

880
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,960
We definitely could could use 
running backs with good upside, 

881
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,200
which Kendra has. 
I like he's one of the players 

882
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,920
that I've kind of gone back and 
forth. 

883
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,120
On that's the other one I was. 
Looking at all but. 

884
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:03,960
He did go running back. 
Kendra he he's definitely a 

885
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:10,840
scary click, but we. 
You really had to think through 

886
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,720
it. 
It was so scary that you took 

887
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:13,360
him a 2. 
Seconds. 

888
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Well, I was kind of triggered 
because I was like, I don't 

889
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,720
think this person is going to 
select A running back. 

890
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,120
And then they took Jalen Wright.
So he they left Jedre but still 

891
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,360
took and and Jalen Wright would 
have been a nice fit for our 

892
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,680
team with. 
The stack right with the two 

893
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:28,720
thing I was going to mention, 
he's the other one that I would 

894
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,000
have definitely considered 
there. 

895
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,320
Yeah. 
I mean just looking he had about

896
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,160
his ADP is like 10 picks later. 
So I would have thought if we 

897
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,600
were able to get both, he he 
grabbed Kendre first, but. 

898
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,160
There's a lot of concern around 
Kendre and I get it, but I still

899
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,920
think if you have a 21 year old 
rookie going into age 22 season,

900
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,920
had the profile he had and has 
the competition he has that you,

901
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,920
you know, from an anti fragile 
perspective, you would expect 

902
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,120
things to break in his favor 
throughout the season. 

903
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,840
For sure, and that's that's why 
I've been clicking. 

904
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,520
I think I'm at like 13 or 14% 
Kendre. 

905
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,960
I, I just, I had probably close 
to 40% last year and like at 

906
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,160
this point through last season, 
I had around 40% Kendre. 

907
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,280
Like definitely a couple Toyota 
Corolla's worth of Kendre last 

908
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,800
year. 
So this is, you know, not not 

909
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:30,240
fully PTSD off Kendre, but but 
yeah, I'm still clicking and 

910
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:35,280
just wanting to really for me, 
it's what if the answer on the 

911
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,480
Saints is none of the above? 
That's the thing that I'm scared

912
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,000
of. 
I think Kamara could be really 

913
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,120
bad. 
I think we know what Jamal 

914
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,960
Williams is, and it's just if 
Kendra is not it, it might just 

915
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,160
be that none of these guys is a 
good pick. 

916
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,640
Do much, Yeah. 
Especially with with Ramchek 

917
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,120
missing the season, that's 
pretty, pretty scary. 

918
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,400
So since we picked Noah Fan 
comes off the board, Jacoby 

919
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,200
Myers, Matthew Stafford, Hunter 
Henry. 

920
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,880
Seeing the tight ends that have 
all come off the board so 

921
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,600
quickly after Komet sure makes 
him look like a strong pick. 

922
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,880
And Oh my goodness. 
So yeah, another running back 

923
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,240
here. 
Ty Chandler looking good. 

924
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,520
Yeah, I'm super excited to get 
Ty Chandler here. 

925
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,640
Feel like he fits really well 
for what we need. 

926
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,160
Yeah, there's nothing. 
I mean, there's a couple wide 

927
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,160
receiver guys. 
Couple rookie running backs you 

928
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,880
could maybe consider but 
Chandler's AI mean a good pick 

929
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,800
for sure. 
Yeah, Ty Chandler, his ADP is at

930
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,600
1:37. 
So this is what pick number are 

931
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:42,000
we at here? 
And we're past 140. 8147, yeah. 

932
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,440
So almost 10 picks past ADP in a
in a starved running backroom. 

933
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,040
I think that makes sense. 
We get Ty Chandler, and now he's

934
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,320
Kenneth Walker, Zach Moss, 
Kendra and Ty. 

935
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,440
He's weirdly undervalued. 
There's something that has come 

936
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,480
up a few spots as I've gone 
through projections that I think

937
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,440
is worth emphasizing. 
And I don't think it's talked 

938
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,120
about enough. 
And it's just the idea of like 

939
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,640
depth chart depth, right? 
Like behind Ty Chandler, all 

940
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,720
they have right now is Kanen 
Wong Woo who was a special teams

941
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:11,160
during college. 
I don't think he ever had 100 

942
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,280
touches and offensive touches in
in college season. 

943
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,040
Everyone wanted him to be 
something last year. 

944
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,200
He's just an athletic. 
Special teams are probably 

945
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,280
Dwayne McBride who they had last
year didn't use Miles Gaskin who

946
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,960
they had off and on kept cutting
and bringing back last year 

947
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,520
didn't use they had Todd 
Chandler had all those guys they

948
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,520
played him ahead, all those guys
they brought in Aaron Jones. 

949
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,480
I feel very confident Todd 
Chandler's the RB2 and I think 

950
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,880
he's going to have some stand 
alone value. 

951
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,880
But as far as contingent value, 
like a lot of times we get the 

952
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,080
handcuffs wrong and I don't 
think people talk enough about 

953
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,400
when the RB3 is like this. 
The other spot that I've been 

954
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,440
thinking a lot about this with 
is the Rams. 

955
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,920
Like I think Blake Quorum is 
like kind of being slept on. 

956
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,000
People are scared of Chiron, but
Quorum still just kind of floats

957
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,560
in like this area where if we're
scared of Chiron and Quorum 

958
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,760
could actually have standalone 
value. 

959
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,240
He's definitely the handcuff 
because they still only have 

960
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,760
Ronnie Rivers, Zach Evans. 
They brought up Boston Scott. 

961
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,400
Another special teams are if 
Chiron goes down, I think Koran 

962
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,240
plays the 90% of snaps that 
Chiron was playing last year. 

963
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:10,200
Like there's just no one like 
last year when Chiron went down,

964
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,560
they went to Daryl Henderson and
and and Royce Freeman, right? 

965
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,600
Like, so these spots where 
there's a really clear divide 

966
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,800
between the RB2 and the RB3, I 
think it's a big bump for the 

967
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,560
RB2's overall profile. 
Yeah. 

968
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:30,400
And that, I mean, I, I kind of 
extend that to like, if you're 

969
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,560
looking at the Chief situation, 
it's like the third running back

970
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,000
that the Chiefs are going to 
carry is a guy who's going to be

971
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,680
doing kickoffs for them. 
And I don't mean playing special

972
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,400
teams. 
I mean, he's literally going to 

973
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,760
be the guy that is kicking the 
ball off. 

974
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,280
Because kickers will take more 
contact with the new kickoff 

975
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,480
rules. 
And that is one of the things 

976
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,160
that they thought Luis Reiss to 
meet could bring to the team 

977
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,720
that, hey, this guy plays rugby.
He can kick and he can tackle. 

978
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,200
That's gonna be great for us 
with the new special teams 

979
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,800
rules. 
So the guy you have to worry 

980
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,160
about jumping CEH on the depth 
chart is the kicker. 

981
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,040
So like, it's good. 
Don't. 

982
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,200
You like? 
But yeah, I think that's a great

983
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,920
point, Ben. 
And, and listening to you talk 

984
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,640
about Quorum on, on one of your 
recent shows you did with Sean 

985
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,480
got me to, I mean, I was never, 
I never stopped clicking him, 

986
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,040
but now I'm just clicking him 
with a little more fervor. 

987
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,520
Yeah, Yeah, I have been lately 
too after talking with Sean, 

988
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,640
talking with Leone in the 
projection spot, I just, I left 

989
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,840
that conversation and I don't 
think I said it enough on that 

990
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,040
projection spot, but I left that
conversation like I got to get 

991
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,480
more quorum. 
It's just. 

992
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,520
Yeah, I think you guys got the 
point of like any running back 

993
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,800
going in that 0 running back 
pocket, if the starter ahead of 

994
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,800
them got hurt, which running 
back would actually jump the 

995
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,840
most And like it it is 
definitely I love that point 

996
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,280
about Quorum. 
Like he, he probably just 

997
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:52,160
literally backfills Kyron's ADP 
because Kyron has been a a proxy

998
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,680
for starting ramps running back 
himself, right? 

999
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,120
Like I, I, I wouldn't be 
surprised if that's how they the

1000
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,840
market handled that. 
I mean, but Ty's another good 

1001
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,840
example of the same thing on I 
mean, not necessarily with Aaron

1002
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,840
Jones, but if Aaron Jones were 
out, I think Ty goes just as 

1003
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,280
high. 
Like I mean, who's who's coming 

1004
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,640
for Ty on the Vikings roster, 
the Chiefs roster sack. 

1005
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,760
We got to be worried about 
Cadarius. 

1006
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,040
Tony, I don't know if you've 
been here in the news today. 

1007
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,720
Yeah, that one. 
I I am not that scared about 

1008
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:27,120
Kedarius Tony getting any kind 
of meaningful snaps in the 2024 

1009
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,360
season. 
The Chiefs are in like the save 

1010
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,760
face mode of that trade for 
Kedarius Tony, where you have to

1011
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,480
like, no, no, we still got 
something for him. 

1012
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,880
We definitely have plans. 
Such a fun trade though. 

1013
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,640
God, remember, I mean it, it 
wasn't even, it wasn't that far 

1014
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,800
removed from his whatever like 
14 target game or something, or 

1015
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,240
he was just, I mean, he was it. 
I sold him for a haul in 

1016
00:54:53,240 --> 00:55:00,440
Dynasty. 
So it seems like the pendulum's 

1017
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,720
probably swinging back to wide 
receiver here. 

1018
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,480
There's a couple, there's 
multiple rookies, there's some 

1019
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,600
ADP followers. 
So no one has no one's seriously

1020
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,600
taking Jerry Judy yet. 
Jerry, Judy. 

1021
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,640
That's hilarious. 
Oh. 

1022
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,840
We're gonna have to take stupid 
Jerry Judy. 

1023
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,120
I mean, having that guy, I mean 
AD Mitchell goes, I mean, look 

1024
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:31,320
at so Judy's ADP is 144 and 
we're now what, almost two 

1025
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,680
rounds past that? 
Yeah, we're almost at 168. 

1026
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,440
It's Judy. 
Or like Mike. 

1027
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,520
I mean, if you could. 
Talk. 

1028
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,560
Oh my God, it's stupid. 
Cherry, Judy, It's. 

1029
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,760
Judy, it's so Judy. 
Judy should be going ahead like 

1030
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,600
Cherry Game here, Yeah. 
This is I mean. 

1031
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:54,240
Having sack on to rubber stamp 
the Jerry Judy time. 

1032
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,840
To grab that he has. 
I I this click feels so good. 

1033
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,640
One of one of my biggest, one of
my biggest regrets was the, I 

1034
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,960
think like the very first show 
that I ever did on shift chasing

1035
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,080
airwaves. 
We were doing a main event draft

1036
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,240
and we're sitting there, it's 
like the 4-5 turn and everyone's

1037
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:15,280
so excited about Jerry Judy. 
And I really wanted to say this 

1038
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,880
guy sucks, don't take him. 
But I was trying to be 

1039
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,480
agreeable. 
I was like, Jerry Judy seems 

1040
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,640
good to me, guys. 
And he just went on to torpedo 

1041
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,000
our squad. 
And I I'll never never let it 

1042
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:34,280
down, just set it with my chest.
Well, so it's different in the 

1043
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,680
1415. 
Yeah, yes, Yes, it is. 

1044
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,120
It was, it was a great pick 
here. 

1045
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,640
Like I, you know, as much as I 
want to pretend that it was 

1046
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,320
painting me to click Jerry Judy 
like that was a smash, so. 

1047
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,560
That was a great pick. 
I it I didn't. 

1048
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,960
He honestly should be before the
wide receiver window close 

1049
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,320
closes. 
In my opinion, he should be 

1050
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,440
going like the eighth or ninth 
round in this type of format. 

1051
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,440
I mean, you, you, I think, are 
our competitors watching? 

1052
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,360
Did they just say, hey, we could
just keep pushing Judy? 

1053
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,560
We could just keep pushing Judy.
There's no way these guys take 

1054
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,120
them. 
I'm surprised this entire room 

1055
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,760
was on board with the Judy 
slide. 

1056
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,800
The only thing that would have 
made that better with having 

1057
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,080
Sack on is if we had a Jerry 
Judy clip somehow. 

1058
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,480
I've been, I've been putting out
a, you know, there's a bounty 

1059
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,320
for if someone will make a Jerry
Judy ship chasing clip, but it's

1060
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,480
all Jerry Judy drops and him 
quitting on routes specifically.

1061
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,920
I think it God, I can't remember
what week it was. 

1062
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,000
I'll go back and find it. 
I've got I've got notes on it, 

1063
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,440
but there's a couple really good
ones from last year where Jerry 

1064
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,520
Judy just stops playing football
during a football play. 

1065
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,080
And I need those in there. 
But if you make that I'll I'll 

1066
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,640
get you ABBM entry or two. 
So someone you said I got notes 

1067
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,480
on it. 
I just envisioned that that 

1068
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,080
scene from Billy Madison where 
Steve Buscemi's like got his 

1069
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,200
kill list, like sucks, sucks, 
Jerry, Judy, like I, these are 

1070
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,640
all the things he's done wrong 
with. 

1071
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,960
It's fantastic. 
So after we picked Judy. 

1072
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:04,560
So we have Tyreke, Nico, Digs, 
flowers, Read and Judy. 

1073
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,640
Well, now you can. 
Use a third quarterback if you 

1074
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,320
want. 
Him. 

1075
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,960
Yep. 
There's also Algier. 

1076
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,200
Looks like a slight ADP value 
and then we start to get into 

1077
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,920
some of the rookie wide 
receivers as well. 

1078
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,400
I don't know if we can maybe 
push one of those guys though. 

1079
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,280
My yeah here I would I would be 
pretty squarely Algier or Polk 

1080
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,400
and it really just depends on 
how much you like Drake May. 

1081
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,680
The other name I would float is 
Bucky Irving, 'cause I think 

1082
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,200
this room, we saw Kamani Videl 
go a little higher than ADP. 

1083
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,880
He's a little lower here, but 
lower than he is on underdog. 

1084
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,680
He's in the Algier range. 
I mean, he's ahead of Roshan and

1085
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,160
stuff on Underdog, I guess. 
I don't know. 

1086
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,120
And the truth is, is probably 
none of these guys we've 

1087
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,680
mentioned are coming back. 
Right. 

1088
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,240
And I actually prefer Bucky to 
Algier is kind of the point I'm 

1089
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,520
making. 
But I could see taking Algier 

1090
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,480
for sure. 
I do. 

1091
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,680
Are we worried with this room? 
Kenneth Walker, Zach Moss? 

1092
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,200
Henry Miller, Ty Chandler? 
It does feel like a running back

1093
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,320
is probably better just thinking
about like the positional runs 

1094
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,120
and how much it dries up after 
this. 

1095
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,800
The question I do love you. 
Have a lot of options for your 

1096
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:33,520
QB 3. 
You can. 

1097
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,480
There's some stuff you can do 
with QB three later. 

1098
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:36,680
I wouldn't worry about it right 
here. 

1099
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:42,920
Yeah, I do love Bucky, but I 
kind of feel like just value 

1100
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,040
hounding Algier here. 
We also are like in the spot of 

1101
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,160
the draft where normally you're 
taking Dijon. 

1102
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,920
I I kind of, I'm gonna grab 
Algier here and see. 

1103
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,880
I mean, just anecdotally in my 
underdog rooms, Bucky has been a

1104
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,640
big faller lately. 
Like I've gotten him at like 195

1105
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,360
sometime. 
So I don't know, maybe a smaller

1106
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,840
chance he comes back. 
There's like a tiny bit of 

1107
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,840
negative buzz on Bucky that I 
don't think is like anything 

1108
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,800
super material, but it was just 
like. 

1109
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,440
What was it? 
God, let me find the the guy. 

1110
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,360
The that's another guy where the
RB2 RB three thing I just talked

1111
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,440
about is very clear to me. 
They didn't add anyone. 

1112
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,760
They have a couple UDFAS. 
They kept Jace Edmonds and Sean 

1113
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,920
Tucker, who couldn't beat out 
Rashad White last year when 

1114
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,680
Rashad White was like really 
poor rushing the football. 

1115
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,880
Yeah. 
And then they took Bucky Irving 

1116
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,520
ahead of a lot of these other 
like day three backs. 

1117
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,120
Like there were a few obviously 
that went on Day 2, but running 

1118
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,200
backs go later these days. 
I don't think we've adjusted as 

1119
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,360
a fantasy landscape enough for 
the fact that round four capital

1120
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,640
is actually somewhat meaningful 
at running back. 

1121
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,880
It's gotten more meaningful just
in the past decade. 

1122
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,280
And so a lot of the studies 
aren't going to show you that 

1123
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,720
yet. 
But there have been some hits in

1124
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,040
the early, Like Algier himself 
was a round four pick that was a

1125
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,800
first year hit. 
Ramondre Stevenson was a round 

1126
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,440
four pick that was a first year 
hit. 

1127
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,560
There's a bunch of these 
examples, I've mentioned them on

1128
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:11,160
other streams recently, but if 
Bucky's good and his his 

1129
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,640
production was a lot better than
his actual testing. 

1130
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,000
But if he's good, he's 
definitely better than the other

1131
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,320
RB2 candidates and he may out. 
I mean he also then has this 

1132
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,680
fragile starter that is not a 
very good runner. 

1133
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,800
He's a good. 
But we're going to, for the sake

1134
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,920
of jinxing, we're going to stop 
talking about players who are 

1135
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,880
still. 
So our team, we got two 

1136
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,360
quarterbacks, Jane Daniels and 
Tua. 

1137
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:35,800
We're up to five running backs 
now. 

1138
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,320
Kenneth Walker, Zach Moss, 
Kendra Miller, Ty Chandler and 

1139
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,480
Tyler Algier got the six wide 
receivers, Tyree Kill, Nico 

1140
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,720
Collins, Stefan Diggs, 
Zayflowers, Jayden Reid in the 

1141
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,800
Alpha Hammer play, Jerry Judy, 
and then two tight ends, Mark 

1142
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,960
Andrews, Cole Comet. 
So like structurally we're in a,

1143
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:54,480
we're in a good spot right now. 
I should mention that I'm beg 

1144
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,880
defending hella hard. 
Bucky's like my highest own 

1145
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,960
player. 
I, I have a lot of Bucky too, 

1146
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:04,320
Gretsch and I, I'm just like, 
I'm starting to just chill a 

1147
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,360
tiny bit just 'cause I have so 
much of him and I want to take 

1148
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,280
the other backs that go around 
him that are like, I have way 

1149
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,040
more Bucky than I have Ray 
Davis. 

1150
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,960
And it's like, are they really 
that, I mean, they're different 

1151
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,840
in that Ray Davis has a better 
running back ahead of him, but 

1152
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,520
he's also on a better offense, 
so. 

1153
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:26,440
Yeah, but we could. 
We could chat about another 

1154
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,960
player. 
Stop talking about the. 

1155
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:34,200
Board, I was trying to, I was 
trying to FUD him a little bit 

1156
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,360
there. 
Yeah, it didn't work. 

1157
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:41,360
This Dodelex message like really
kind of gave me some PTSDA hit 

1158
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,800
me. 
He said if Bucky sucks, Rashad 

1159
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,480
really is going to be a smash 
again, huh? 

1160
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,720
And I was like, yeah, I mean, 
that's the only thing standing 

1161
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,600
between it because there's 
nothing else on that depth 

1162
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,760
chart. 
Like that's the other way you 

1163
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,920
can read it is if Bucky really 
isn't it, then it's just Rashad 

1164
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,160
White all like 2023 all over 
again. 

1165
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,240
So some of the ADP, Mike 
Williams was a big ADP faller. 

1166
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:05,240
Couple rookies go at the turn, 
Troy Franklin and Jalen Polk 

1167
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,480
and Deshaun Watson did come off 
the board as well. 

1168
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,200
So that Judy Stack is gone as 
far as like quarterback stuff 

1169
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,400
though too. 
You know, Kendre, there's Derek 

1170
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,360
Carr, we can do Minnesota stuff 
with Ty Chandler. 

1171
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,200
I'm not feeling like completely 
up against the wall there for QB

1172
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,240
3. 
But yeah, Mims and Franklin both

1173
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,800
going so and Polk all going 
right in this gap is really 

1174
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,120
annoying as far as, I mean the 
favorite ways to do it. 

1175
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,720
But you're right, there's a lot 
of ways to get there. 

1176
01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:12,790
Yeah, Bo Nix comes off the board
here. 

1177
01:04:13,390 --> 01:04:14,590
Weird. 
Unstacked. 

1178
01:04:14,750 --> 01:04:16,350
Unstacked. 
He's good. 

1179
01:04:16,670 --> 01:04:19,470
Yeah, McLaughlin. 
But no Cortland Sutton on that 

1180
01:04:19,470 --> 01:04:20,950
roster either? 
That's odd. 

1181
01:04:23,950 --> 01:04:27,190
Yeah. 
So looking at, I know we have 

1182
01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:30,920
flexibility with the flexes, but
with four picks left. 

1183
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,800
Wow, McCaffrey went way ahead of
AAP. 

1184
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,720
Jeez. 
That's OK Naked Jayden Daniels 

1185
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,680
is something I am never that 
concerned about honestly. 

1186
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,680
Yeah. 
We're definitely getting one 

1187
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,960
more quarterback, definitely 
getting one more tight end, 

1188
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,720
couple more receivers and one 
more running back probably. 

1189
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,440
Yeah, for the tight ends, I 
think at this point you just 

1190
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,280
dare the room to prove to you 
that they know who the actual 

1191
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,640
correct players are to click 
down here because most of them 

1192
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,320
are just bad picks. 
And so I just, I just like make 

1193
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,960
the room show me that they 
actually know who to click here.

1194
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,720
I I take Drake May here 100 
times out of 100 because there's

1195
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,320
no other. 
You ain't getting another good 

1196
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,840
third quarterback that you can 
stack so. 

1197
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,840
I definitely wouldn't take my 
hump times out of 100 feet. 

1198
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,400
If you're not. 
If you're not sold, I don't even

1199
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,200
think I'd take him 50 times out 
of 100. 

1200
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,600
I'm looking at the. 
Full season points thing. 

1201
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,160
I'm legit concerned Drake May 
doesn't start till mid season. 

1202
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,320
Like, but we have, we have 
Daniel's intua though is, is the

1203
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,040
thing. 
So this is this is for our 

1204
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,800
upside. 
We're not taking this third 

1205
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:44,720
quarter like, yeah, also the 
most recent report at a Patriots

1206
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,280
camp is that the beat, one of 
the beat reporters that I think 

1207
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,800
is, is one of the most plugged 
in guys has Drake May pegged as 

1208
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:56,000
a 35% chance to start week one, 
which when he was writing the 

1209
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,480
article, I'm sure he was writing
it as, hey, everyone, just 

1210
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,840
beware, this guy's probably not 
starting. 

1211
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,400
But when Yeah, I read it, I'm 
like 35%. 

1212
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:10,360
Oh, maybe. 
Yeah, well, we we grabbed Drake 

1213
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,800
May. 
Here I was, I was eyeing like 

1214
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,280
all of these rookie wide 
receivers, you know, the, the 

1215
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,720
Polk, McCaffrey Leget was a huge
ADP follower there. 

1216
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:25,640
So that kind of stung. 
Leget one in the 16th round. 

1217
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:30,920
Yeah, I mean, yeah, Leget, AD, 
Mitchell, both of those guys 

1218
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,640
just go criminally late usually 
on FFPC. 

1219
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,520
Like I just had a draft where I 
think I took, I took AD in the 

1220
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,480
17th round I think at like 17 O 
4. 

1221
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,720
He went 14 here. 
But yeah, Theo sniped up both of

1222
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,400
those. 
And Brian Thomas, he's been 

1223
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,840
grabbing some of those guys that
are just followers on from other

1224
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,640
platforms. 
Unfortunately you've been doing 

1225
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,680
a bit where you name players who
have already been drafted. 

1226
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:57,680
Is that what you're doing? 
It's. 

1227
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:06,240
Not a very fun bet. 
Jerry Judy, Draft Jerry Judy 

1228
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:11,360
again. 
Yeah, Braylon Allen would have 

1229
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,920
been a nice one there if he came
back. 

1230
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,280
Yeah, the tight end is just a 
wasteland right now. 

1231
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,560
There's a couple that are are 
clickable in my opinion, but 

1232
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:35,480
most of them aren't and and I 
think just probabilistically, if

1233
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,880
the room takes one, they're 
probably going to take one that 

1234
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,040
I think is a bad click. 
And so I would just. 

1235
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,280
I usually prioritize these the 
least. 

1236
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,240
Yeah. 
But is there something to 

1237
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,680
prioritize for if you don't have
a clear other pick you know? 

1238
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,560
Yeah, I I think that there's a 
couple good ones here. 

1239
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:01,320
I would make a pitch for 
estimate. 

1240
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,240
I always like taking him in this
range personally, but I don't 

1241
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,520
know. 
I mean, if you have some other 

1242
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,760
ones that you really like, I'm 
curious. 

1243
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:13,120
I mean, I feel yeah, Braylon 
gone. 

1244
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,240
I mean, Ricky Pierce all 
shouldn't go this late. 

1245
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:22,120
Oh, that's weird. 
So there's that. 

1246
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:28,000
Yeah, but you also know for 
building out the back stack with

1247
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,200
man. 
That's what I was, that's what I

1248
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,279
was gonna say. 
You might, you might just say 

1249
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:35,080
I'm actually good at receiver. 
I'm just gonna take Javon Baker.

1250
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,359
You also can pass on Baker 
knowing that you're fine. 

1251
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:41,160
There's there's three viable 
Patriots receivers here. 

1252
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,800
So you could also take one of 
the running backs that I think 

1253
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,560
are good picks here. 
Like I think CEH is a really 

1254
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,240
good pick. 
Deonta Foreman's a really good 

1255
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,080
pick. 
And there's a couple others that

1256
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:55,200
you can push later as well. 
I I I think I like the estimate 

1257
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,560
call. 
You can't leave this draft 

1258
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,520
without a rookie running back. 
That's that's the key running 

1259
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,720
back or a Broncos running back. 
You just checked two important 

1260
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,600
boxes. 
We got our buddy Sack, who's an 

1261
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,080
absolute genius is touting 
clatter towards the lair and 

1262
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,600
Deonta Freeman, who are two 
corpses over getting some rookie

1263
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,319
youth on your build. 
I, I don't know what's 

1264
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:22,120
happening, man. 
I I had a a different rookie 

1265
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,720
that I prefer for this one that 
I think we can get later, but 

1266
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,680
we'll we'll see if he makes it 
back to us. 

1267
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,520
That's, I mean, that's at least 
intriguing. 

1268
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,160
Yeah, we're intriguing. 
The Deonte Foreman, there's like

1269
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,279
7. 
That's a team that does not have

1270
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:36,240
a clear RB3. 
There's beats that have said 

1271
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:37,560
that. 
Pierre Strong is definitely 

1272
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,840
making the team for special 
teams and he got usage last 

1273
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,720
year. 
I think Foreman probably makes 

1274
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,160
it, but I think when Nick Chubb 
comes back he's the obvious cut 

1275
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,279
because Naheem Hynes is probably
their kick returner too. 

1276
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:50,319
But they're probably going to 
keep 4 running backs, Chubb on 

1277
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,960
PUP and then when Chubb comes 
back, Heinz and Strong are 

1278
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,920
playing special teams and Deonte
Foreman's gone. 

1279
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,080
But this is a total points 
cumulative scoring league. 

1280
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,520
So Foreman, this is the best 
format. 

1281
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,680
Yeah. 
This is the best format to click

1282
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,040
Foreman, in my opinion. 
That's true. 

1283
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,120
And I think I think you have 
like probably a greater than 

1284
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,600
1015% chance that Nick Chubb 
doesn't play meaningful snaps 

1285
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:13,880
this season, you know? 
Yeah. 

1286
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,240
I just have been very anti 
deonte foreman this year so. 

1287
01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:23,640
He's just, he's just so free. 
He's so free. 

1288
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,360
And I mean, they they gave 
Kareem Hunt a lot of valuable 

1289
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:33,280
touches last year. 
And I don't think that he's as 

1290
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,320
good of a player as Deonte 
Foreman is so. 

1291
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,480
Yeah, Foreman is good. 
They have a lot of good running 

1292
01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:39,960
backs. 
That's. 

1293
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,680
What I mean the Browns. 
The Browns also do like the 

1294
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,960
Browns do care about like their 
running backs being good too. 

1295
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,880
You know, like they didn't play 
Pierre Strong last year because 

1296
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,840
they're like, this guy's not 
that good. 

1297
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,880
You know, they that's why they 
played Cream Hunt because they 

1298
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,120
were like, well, he's better 
than this guy. 

1299
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:03,200
Like they do, they do care about
people being good, which is 

1300
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,720
different. 
Some some teams really don't 

1301
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,720
care about that. 
I think the Browns care. 

1302
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,560
Strong did get 68 touches last 
year. 

1303
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,760
It was pretty solid. 
It was 68 though. 

1304
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,240
Yeah, so Javon Baker goes. 
That's a bummer. 

1305
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:25,200
Otherwise, nothing. 
Yeah, and Deonte Foreman did go 

1306
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,160
as well in this round. 
We got three more picks left. 

1307
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:34,120
Luckily, the Patriots are just a
fucking rushing nesting doll of 

1308
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:37,720
of wide receivers. 
So you can't you can't take them

1309
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:38,800
all. 
You could try, but there will 

1310
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,760
still be a few left. 
Yeah, you're probably probably 

1311
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,760
one of each scale position to 
close it out. 

1312
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:50,120
Here is what I would think. 
Yeah, we need to find a tight 

1313
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:57,120
end. 
Yeah, Chad says Foreman's the 

1314
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,320
goal line back, hands down. 
I just, I don't know where, like

1315
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,560
where we can be certain about 
that with Jerome Ford there too.

1316
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,000
They paid Foreman nothing. 
They just like gave him a little

1317
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:17,160
camp invite. 
I don't know. 

1318
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,920
I haven't drafted Foreman once. 
So again, beg defending. 

1319
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,280
I think he's undraftable. 
So. 

1320
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,120
I mean, if, if Foreman is 
undraftable, then doesn't that 

1321
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,400
make Ford like giga undraftable 
because he's going a lot more 

1322
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,440
expensive and he's he's probably
not that much better than 

1323
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:36,720
Foreman. 
Like he wasn't he wasn't good 

1324
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,040
last year. 
You already saw you got the 

1325
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:46,560
literal nut outcome for Jerome 
Ford and it was so why? 

1326
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,880
Why would you ever? 
It's just like Dawn to Foreman 

1327
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,800
is like Jerome Ford arbitrage 
where you're still getting to 

1328
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,760
bet on a bad outcome for Nick 
Chubb and you're getting to bet 

1329
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,200
on a good offensive line. 
That's kind of the way that I 

1330
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,800
view Foreman. 
Teams care about like, you know,

1331
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,360
the scheme and like, they gave 
him two, they gave Ford 250 

1332
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,200
touches last year. 
Like that's the reason that 

1333
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,920
Ford's better. 
I'm not taking the. 

1334
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,400
They had they had no other 
option, you know, like the other

1335
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,680
option was Kareem Hunt, which 
they did go to for a substantial

1336
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,960
amount of high value touches. 
Like they were down bad. 

1337
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,680
Like if you had called the 
Browns and you're like, I'm in 

1338
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,240
fight and shape, they would have
been like show up. 

1339
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:34,040
What are you looking at, Pete? 
I'm I'm thinking here as I, as I

1340
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,080
wait to say it to, to get my 
heart broken. 

1341
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,680
I'm thinking running back, 
random tight end, random 

1342
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,720
Patriots wide receiver. 
That's the order I would do it 

1343
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,280
in as well. 
So I was thinking Shipley here 

1344
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,160
and then we can figure out tight
end in the next one. 

1345
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,680
Yep, think that's good. 
Makes sense? 

1346
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,000
Got to get out ahead of Sean's 
article that came out over the 

1347
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,880
weekend calling him potentially 
the next Alvin Kamara. 

1348
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:07,720
Shipley, I took so much Shipley 
in the in the big board in the 

1349
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,280
pre draft. 
I love that profile. 

1350
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,680
We were talking about him on 
stealing bananas a lot. 

1351
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,920
And then he lands with Jalen 
Hurts and I'm just like, I mean,

1352
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,920
we did this with DeAndre Swift. 
Like, yeah, they're going to 

1353
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,960
throw to the backs a little bit 
more. 

1354
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,440
And DeAndre Swift always earned 
targets at a really high rate 

1355
01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:29,680
with the Lions. 
And then suddenly there's just, 

1356
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,760
I mean, Hertz just is a mobile 
quarterback that reads downfield

1357
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,400
and then scrambles. 
He's not a guy that's going to 

1358
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,720
throw to the backs a lot. 
And it's tough to be the next 

1359
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,480
Alvin Kamaro with Jalen Hurts. 
Yeah. 

1360
01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:43,120
I also just think of it too like
if you are like full fading or 

1361
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,920
close to full fading Barkley, 
like how does that go wrong 

1362
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:51,000
other than, you know, like and 
if it does, I mean, Shipley has 

1363
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,920
to be a pretty big beneficiary. 
For sure. 

1364
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,320
Yeah, I, I had he was one of my 
highest drafted running backs in

1365
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,480
the pre NFL draft contest. 
I think I was over like 20% on 

1366
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:05,120
him 'cause he was going 
undrafted or in the last round 

1367
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,720
purely just for the pass 
catching profile. 

1368
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,400
I was hoping he'd land somewhere
where he could get that work. 

1369
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,840
Lands on the Eagles, which 
probably was not a a great 

1370
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,600
landing spot for him, but he got
decent draft capital. 

1371
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:21,560
The only, the only pushback I 
have at all on John's thesis on 

1372
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:26,360
him is he did get dusted by a 
true freshman at Clemson. 

1373
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,120
Like he was not the best running
back on the team very, very 

1374
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,880
clearly. 
And that's why he left. 

1375
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,680
That's why he declared for the 
NFL, because he was not going to

1376
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,320
be the running back there 
anymore. 

1377
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,400
So the talent is is a little 
questionable, but I think he's 

1378
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:48,560
still a great pick. 
I mean, I I click Jatavian 

1379
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:53,440
Sanders in 18 round drafts 
accord occasionally he seems by 

1380
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,680
by far the best when Zach Ertz, 
Hayden Hurst, Greg Dulcic and 

1381
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,400
Daniel Bellinger are coming off 
the board right now. 

1382
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,040
For the listeners at home, these
are the other tight ends in the 

1383
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,960
queue just by their default 
rank, Tyler Higbee, Theo 

1384
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,200
Johnson, Donald Parham, Gerald 
Everett, Lucas Kroll, Noah Gray,

1385
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,920
Will Disley and Jared Wiley. 
So I guess this is a Jatavian 

1386
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,520
Sanders pick. 
I mean, mayor's the only other. 

1387
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,720
Oh, Mayor West. 
Yeah, that was, of those five 

1388
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,960
tight ends that went previously,
the only one I, I would 

1389
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,480
occasionally consider Bellinger,
but probably not. 

1390
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,040
I was clicking Theo Johnson 
before he went on PUP, but I 

1391
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,080
just didn't worry. 
You know, Titan's usually a 

1392
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,240
position that's kind of slow to 
start anyway, and then you're 

1393
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,920
gonna miss some a camp. 
Like that's just, that's 

1394
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,560
something where I, I wanna wait 
now to have a little more 

1395
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,160
information before I'm gonna 
start clicking Theo Johnson 

1396
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,240
again. 
So I guess you can do the 

1397
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,360
Bellinger thing if you're saying
you know the logical conclusion 

1398
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,520
of it being bad for I. 
Went after your pick. 

1399
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,600
I just googled him, never heard 
that one. 

1400
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,160
I don't know who he is. 
Dylan Dylan Holker. 

1401
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,920
Don't know what team he's on. 
I should know. 

1402
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,800
He went to Colorado State in my 
backyard growing up. 

1403
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,680
I literally don't know what team
he's on. 

1404
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:06,600
Who? 
Plays for the Saints also went 

1405
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,960
to BIU. 
BYU6 foot four 236 LB tight end 

1406
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:19,920
Saints made a hefty investment 
in rookie free agent Damon Holt.

1407
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,600
OK so on UDFA terms that gave 
him like 100K instead of? 

1408
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,200
50 He has hefty investment on 
UDFA dirt. 

1409
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,480
What are we? 
What are we doing? 

1410
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,800
I mean, he's, he's in a world of
hurt at tight end. 

1411
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,640
He has Jake Ferguson, Mike 
Kasicki, no one else. 

1412
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,040
Like he's, he's drowned. 
There's a couple people drowning

1413
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,840
at tight end in this room. 
Like, yeah, but like. 

1414
01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:47,680
Go draft like Robert Tunyon or 
something. 

1415
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,040
At least Robert Tunyon's gonna 
play half the year while TJ 

1416
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,560
Hawkinson's coming back. 
Or you. 

1417
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,400
Know the the commit pick is 
aging very nicely when you just 

1418
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:00,800
kind of look at the tear breaks 
and then this blitz here like 

1419
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,360
not feeling quite as panic to 
chase like a Dawson knocks into 

1420
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,720
the 17th or whatever feels feels
nice. 

1421
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:12,680
Up I mean, so I hope this Dallin
Hulker guys good for for this 

1422
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,480
dude's sake. 
But this team has Juan Johnson, 

1423
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:22,200
Foster Monroe, Taysom Hill and 
Tommy Hudson. 

1424
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,520
They used a little bit last year
too, whose battle guys kicked 

1425
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,920
around as like a depth tight end
and been a good receiver at 

1426
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,600
places. 
So you need like somebody of 

1427
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,320
those of that group to get cut 
for this guy to even make the 

1428
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:39,080
team. 
Maybe they're praying for Hulker

1429
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:43,800
to get cut and picked up by a 
tight end needy team and that's 

1430
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,000
the out. 
I really did dare the room to 

1431
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,240
take every New England wide 
receiver because then Kendrick 

1432
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:55,920
Bourne went and. 
Oh, Tommy Hudson's not. 

1433
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,240
I was thinking of Tommy Sweeney 
who used to kicked around. 

1434
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,000
Tommy Hudson's not any good. 
Tommy Hudson is the infamous 

1435
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,880
pick from the the Underdog draft
where the guy got sniped on 

1436
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:10,960
Stroud and then rage tanked. 
That's that's how how he will 

1437
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:19,920
forever be known to me. 
Jared Wiley go. 

1438
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,120
So we're down to Mr. Irrelevant.
Thank you guys for hanging out 

1439
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:27,600
here on a chill Sunday evening. 
Also thank you Sacrilegious and 

1440
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,680
Gretch for being my my Co pilots
here. 

1441
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,240
It was much appreciated for a 
format I haven't been playing. 

1442
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,480
Definitely. 
Yeah, it was. 

1443
01:19:37,480 --> 01:19:40,560
It was happy to hop on. 
Always always fun to draft an 

1444
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,000
FFPC Streets. 
Do you, do you guys have your, 

1445
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,560
what's your draft slot tomorrow,
Gretch? 

1446
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,440
I don't know and I'm still 
trying to figure out who down 

1447
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:52,360
Holger is. 
I thought I gave you. 

1448
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,560
The clip on me tonight? 
No, you did. 

1449
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,120
You gave me some great 
information but I'm still 

1450
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,320
confused. 
I had 64 catches at Colorado 

1451
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,520
State last year and he actually 
had a little production. 

1452
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,720
I do love Bonex. 
The Bonex stack with Josh 

1453
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,000
Reynolds I actually like I I've 
clicked Josh Reynolds a couple 

1454
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,120
times. 
That's fun. 

1455
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,600
Yeah, what do you like more? 
Bonex with Josh Reynolds or 

1456
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,560
Drake May with KJ Osbourne. 
Oh, I mean, it's Drake May with 

1457
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,880
KJ Osbourne going away. 
That's an easy one. 

1458
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:27,280
This is how like is this. 
You know, you, you eat, you like

1459
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,760
binged on Snickers and now 
you're going to have like a 

1460
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,880
bunch of bunch of lettuce here. 
You know, you took the Jerry 

1461
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,880
Judy, you feel like shit. 
And then, is this KJ Osborne 

1462
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,640
going to be the ultimate palette
cleanser for you? 

1463
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,440
I mean, KJ Osborne is just a 
beautiful chef's kiss to end 

1464
01:20:42,440 --> 01:20:45,960
this draft. 
I mean, he OK, Like, all all 

1465
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:50,920
joking aside, pretend that Javon
Baker doesn't work out right? 

1466
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,920
And I've got a lot of Baker. 
He's one, right? 

1467
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,200
He's one of my highest drafted 
receivers KJ Osbourne profiles 

1468
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,920
to fill the role that we're 
thinking Javon Baker could fill 

1469
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,920
pretty easily for a quarterback 
who we really like for his deep 

1470
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,280
passing. 
So I I think KJ Osbourne's a 

1471
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,000
very reasonable click. 
Very reasonable. 

1472
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:17,160
He is, he is the the final 
selection on this team and we 

1473
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,760
did. 
We did finish strong with some 

1474
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,040
some rookie upside there. 
Obviously we had Jayden Daniels 

1475
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,280
early, missed out on a lot of 
the rookie wide receivers. 

1476
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,320
Luke McCaffrey was was one that 
would have been fun to get with 

1477
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,600
Jay and Daniels. 
But we finish Drake, May, 

1478
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,400
Audrick estimate, Will Shipley, 
Jatavian Sanders. 

1479
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:38,120
So, you know, we did our best 
for the youth chasers out there.

1480
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:43,320
Osborne got 3.18 fully 
guaranteed million on a one 

1481
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,760
year, $4 million deal. 
Like he's got to make the team 

1482
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,120
he's going to play. 
Yeah, good dude. 

1483
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,160
All right. 
I'm gonna, I'll do I pull up the

1484
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,800
roster view here so you can see 
this. 

1485
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,680
Our three quarterbacks, Jane 
Daniels, Tua and Drake May. 

1486
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,760
Feels like a cromulent 
quarterback room. 

1487
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,720
We had this zero RB build 
anchored by Kenneth Walker, Zach

1488
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,320
Moss, Kendra Miller, Ty 
Chandler, Tyler Algier, Audric 

1489
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:08,960
estimate Will Shipley. 
Looks like a good running 

1490
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:10,920
backroom. 
Got our wide receivers Tyree 

1491
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,440
Kill, Nico Collins, Stephon 
Diggs, Zayflowers, Jayden Reed, 

1492
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:18,560
Jerry Judy and KJ Osbourne 
definitely not the two wide 

1493
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,040
receivers I thought were going 
to be rounding out this room at 

1494
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,280
the time. 
Jerry Judy and KJ Osbourne you 

1495
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,840
know, but the Lord works in 
mysterious ways and then. 

1496
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,440
Always going to happen when Zach
came on. 

1497
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,440
Mark Andrews, Colcumet and 
Jatavian Sanders there. 

1498
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,920
What do we think about this? 
This squad here, I feel like 

1499
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,280
it's a really solid squad. 
We just didn't get a lot of our,

1500
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,920
you know, favorites on here. 
Yeah, that's a good way of 

1501
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,520
putting it. 
I think it's a really good team.

1502
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,640
The Stroud thing a little bit 
tilting, but I think you built 

1503
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,400
well Despite that. 
Would have been nice to have 

1504
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,160
that directional season long bet
on the whole passing game there.

1505
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,400
But you still have a really 
strong one with Nico and Diggs. 

1506
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,480
And then Daniels is a different 
way of playing quarterback 

1507
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:00,440
ceiling. 
We always talk about the 

1508
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:02,560
quarterback being sort of the 
least important part of that 

1509
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,560
type of bet. 
You have your little bet on the 

1510
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,840
Baltimore passing game as well. 
I mean, I, I, I like that part 

1511
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,560
of it where you're doing the 
teammate bets in a full season 

1512
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,400
points league. 
Like you're saying, Baltimore's 

1513
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,600
pass rate and Houston's pass 
rate are high. 

1514
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,280
The actual position groups look 
great to me as well. 

1515
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:20,440
I mean, I think it's a good, 
good team. 

1516
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,080
Yeah, the the rookie upside we 
got at the end was really 

1517
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,280
necessary. 
We didn't have a lot of it early

1518
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,640
and that's just a a side effect 
of being in a room with people 

1519
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,120
who know who the the good 
rookies to click are. 

1520
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:37,080
So the room did a good job not 
not letting these guys fall as 

1521
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:40,000
far as they usually do, but I 
feel like we still got a really 

1522
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,880
fun team here. 
Yep, and also shout out to our 

1523
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:49,920
guy Draco is well providing, 
provided his sheet to me tonight

1524
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,040
to keep an eye on and I 
appreciated that. 

1525
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,880
Doing some great work over in 
the FFPC streets and I know he 

1526
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,720
has his rankings that he's 
helped on over at Leg Up as 

1527
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,200
well. 
If you guys are wanting to get 

1528
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,880
some ranks to hop in a similar 
contest. 

1529
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,880
Not this, this is the pro am or 
whatever, but there is the 

1530
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:09,880
what's the official? 
Is it just called the best ball 

1531
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,960
tournament? 
BBT, the best ball tournament, 

1532
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,920
$125.00 entry, I believe it's 
300 K to first one of the most 

1533
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:22,080
top heavy tournaments that is 
out there in the best ball 

1534
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,760
format. 
So if you think you have an edge

1535
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,840
at it, it's the one where you'll
have your highest theoretical 

1536
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,560
ROI because the more top heavy A
tournament is, the the better 

1537
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,520
your theoretical ROI can be in 
it. 

1538
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,320
So. 
And I think we're going to draft

1539
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,080
one of those on ship chasing 
this week this afternoon. 

1540
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,640
So that will be fun. 
We'll have kind of gotten our 

1541
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,120
feet wet with these pros versus 
Joes. 

1542
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,520
And so if you guys want to see 
another one of those, that'll be

1543
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:51,480
Thursday at 3:00 PM Eastern. 
Like I said, Gretsch will be 

1544
01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:54,720
streaming his tomorrow on the 
Stealing Signals YouTube, so 

1545
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,320
make sure you guys tune in for 
that. 

1546
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,520
Is that an 8:00 PM kickoff as 
well or is that a different 

1547
01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:59,240
time? 
Gretchen, you'd. 

1548
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:02,960
Think that I would know my draft
slot in my kickoff time, but 

1549
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:07,880
unfortunately I do not. 
OK, no worries. 

1550
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,160
I can look it up. 
It's Nine, 9:00 PM Eastern 

1551
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,640
tomorrow night. 
So come join us at youtube.com 

1552
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,760
slash at Stealing Signals, 9:00 
PM Eastern tomorrow night. 

1553
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,720
Beautiful, sacrilegious. 
Anything going on in your neck 

1554
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,200
of the woods that leg up right 
now? 

1555
01:25:24,440 --> 01:25:27,880
We're just working on some 
updates for the sidekick. 

1556
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:34,360
We just sent a new update to the
extension yesterday which had 

1557
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,800
some some new stuff in there. 
You can now draft off of ADP. 

1558
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,560
So if you're tired of getting, 
you know, 30% Jalen Warren, you 

1559
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,680
can switch from drafting off leg
up ranks to just drafting off 

1560
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,080
ADP. 
I really enjoyed just kind of 

1561
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,480
toggling back and forth and just
getting a second opinion to see,

1562
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,560
you know, if I was purely doing 
this from ADP, what would the 

1563
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,360
best pick be? 
And then going back to the leg 

1564
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:57,880
up ranks to see what we've got 
there. 

1565
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,160
So that's all for us over a leg 
up. 

1566
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,440
Beautiful. 
One other programming note for 

1567
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:05,640
this channel. 
ADP Chasing will be live 

1568
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,920
tomorrow as usual. 
Finally, lots of kind of more 

1569
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,040
interesting market updates to 
discuss. 

1570
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,640
Got the the Chiefs wide 
receivers moving up, the Jordan 

1571
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,280
Addison news, all that good 
stuff. 

1572
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,160
So they will be breaking that 
down tomorrow and I'll have best

1573
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,480
ball breakfast as usual over on 
my channel. 

1574
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:25,520
The rotating guest this week is 
Rotopat from Rotoworld. 

1575
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,840
Always a fun guy to hop in a 
draft with. 

1576
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,920
So that will be a good show. 
That's at 10:00 AM Eastern 

1577
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,320
tomorrow on my channel. 
Appreciate you ship chasers. 

1578
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,600
We will see you guys next time. 
Peace out.

