Tonight on ship chasing another scintillating round of bids.
We're also going to have our stat chasing Bros Draco and Sam.
Swing by later to profile and Spotlight.
One of our ffp, see Main Event teams all tonight on ship Jason
Pat fryer homos. I need a hand job.
Fix your Sidekick, your Marv. All right, the pissed boys are
back. We can't even can't even get an
interesting waiver wire week, guys.
I mean, I'm trying to come up with some enthusiasm.
This one's even worse than last week.
This is a bad waiver wire week. There's like nothing there.
I didn't want a number of, like, Dynasty teams and stuff, I just
didn't put it in waivers last night.
I don't know what it, what, what's out there?
What's the prize? There is no, there is no prize.
There were no presents. I mean it does suck if you are
you know 0 and 2 and you're trying to like Patchwork
together any production, I guess like when I looked at Paulson's
rankings just to see like the best available, like the only to
Indra Williams is already long, gone in most FF PC leagues.
But then Noah Brown like, no Browns, the like one guy that's
going to project decently this week.
That's available in a lot of lakes but like all of our teams
don't need no help Drake wanted to get well, suppose, it looks
like stunts and it's like we got too many receive perks.
Reversed looks not far behind versus not purchased
percolating. He's looking good.
Yeah. Everything came together this
year, right? Like we got a lot of receivers.
I heard Davis mentioned this on his podcast.
Liam message mentioning it to drafter to Smart what kind of
way. Our Target could even emerge.
Do you guys think that's true that this year?
So like I don't know if I buy that we haven't had any major
injuries. I think there's a lot of got.
I also part of it, what I think is something we talked about in
the offseason is that the offenses are more spread out
more receiving weapons. There are guys that are
available, that are running a lot of routes in to put up
scores, but like it's flatter, I think across some offenses to
the extent that like it. A lot of guys just don't really
matter or your Just kind of playing Spike week stuff, like
they would be good basketball plays but you don't have you're
never going to feel comfortable playing them.
Let me let me play Devil's Advocate and take the Liam Davis
side with more teams being willing to go 0, RB and anchor.
Our be, that means more teams are using quote, unquote luxury,
picks or extra roster draft spots, on running back.
Do we think it could have been an early run on the best waiver
wire pickups just by having more 0r B drafters?
Because if more people are drafting running back heavy,
they're not as interested in these Fringe types, that are
normally then kicking around on the waiver.
Yeah, but I guess who was drafted this year that maybe
like wouldn't have been drafted two years ago, like are there
guys that we think like would Jeff Wilson have not been
drafted. Two years ago, I feel like you
would have, I don't know if we're focusing purely on the
running backs. I mean, I think part of the
reason, there's no one's shooting running backs on the
waivers, as there's no interesting running backs on the
teams like, every parking team sucks at running back like what?
Yeah, offense do you want to Target the backup running back?
Where the the lead back is crushing?
There's no Running backs don't matter in his ways ways that I
fell in even the third running backs and we were talking about
Zack moss and one of our group chats, you know, I would say
like Zach moss and Boston, Scott are on two of the most exciting
offenses in football and we can barely muster any excitement on
a contingent basis. Like, even if something happened
to one of us, it's still hard to get expensive saying that
because I have a really bad bias against him right now.
I'm trying not to like be, too - on some of our Comanche team.
Because I don't see how any of their running backs ever
mattered. Like people keep bringing up off
the Scott Smith, I'm like, what's the point?
You played 15 snaps last week. We're gonna get some blushes.
But like, even if Mi Sanders goes down, they're just going to
use Tracer mean. Like they use Jordan Howard last
year, they're going to know it, Trey, sermon, Boston, Scott and
Kenneth gain. Well they're still going to have
three backs playing 1520 is now I mean sermons going to get not
a lot but 15 snaps, you know and then Scott's gonna go up but why
would I be stoked about play and then Jalen hurts me.
And for 150 yards and three touchdowns in the first two
weeks. White like, why do I want to
running back to send a three back committee on that office?
Because he won't be the three back committee if you ever start
them right here, something will happen.
We're not starting from now. It's not even if Sanders goes
down. It's a new three back committee
because he, well, I mean sermon, he had I'm looking at his box
score last year. Eight nine ten.
He had 12 carries 10 carries 11 carries.
He scored 18 points, 4 points and twelve point five points.
And then 12 16 17, he had 14 points, 10 points, 24 poke.
But how much of that is, is it just kind of touchdown or bus
there when you're seeing those points like entire like, yeah,
entirely. But, I mean, even with the what
this is the flying, like we having a guy who so running
backs are tight ends. Now, instead of sure
everything's nice and tight ends now.
Well, it I would say in general, would we when the bids locked
last week and people were sending over?
Were the final bid reports. It was like okay whoa people are
just bored and want to blast off because some of the prices I'm
wondering. If that course corrects this
week and people are going to or are we at a see you know $240 I
know I'm proud. They're gonna Blast Off.
People are definitely still worth you.
We now I guess I think there's some I don't know.
Maybe I'm like should we be bidding on some of these guys
but I'm trying to think through the mindset of like who could be
the guy that we get? Super excited about the Big
Four? In the future, I'm gonna
actually float, a guy in the private chat that maybe we,
maybe we should do some bit some off, $1 bids on.
I mean, to the extent that this is a fought or is accurate.
I mean, the reality is that the bids are thin, right?
The waiver wire feels then there's not these great options.
I think that puts an emphasis on what Pat saying this private
chat stuff and it's not good T TV here but like it's probably
because you don't really want to to talk about a ton because
they're people you might want to try to get onto rosters a couple
of weeks early and think it puts an emphasis on trying to get
guys before stuff happens. And if we're out here talking
about it every single week that we're not going to be able to
necessarily do that, you, I think you probably do want to
try to be early on players that you think I've been talking
about this way too much lately. I'm like stealing bananas and
stuff, but the whole EV equation.
There's the, you know, the probability of something
hitting, and then the payoff if it hits, I think we A lot of the
probability of hitting sometimes, I think the payoff
matters so much more focusing on the payoff side weeks.
Early is going to become, you know, the thing that you want to
do, right? That's what that was like,
keeping Ronald Jones in some leaked even though he's done
nothing. The payoff for wrong Jones is
still high. If there's chaos in the Kansas
City backfield. Right.
Yeah. One other thing, I know a lot of
people are in this spot, will says, my bids are just my tray
Lance Replacements. Obviously, a lot of ship Chasers
are Trying to replace Trail ants unlike a macro perspective.
I mean the trail ants owner is really the only one in the
league that's hard up for a quarterback.
I assume the I guess the Dak Prescott guy might not have
figured it out quite yet, but I'm just even wondering how
competitive this Cuban Market is going to be there because
everyone else is probably pretty good.
Like we could go through a league and most of these teams
have two quarterbacks or one really solid quarterback
already. Yeah, I was thinking like oh
mariota's here in this league maybe we should price enforce a
little bit and then it's like I'd rather just turn it for a
running back. So like I don't know, maybe
they'll be some people that feel differently and they'll they'll
scoot Mariota knowing there's a team that could really use them,
but I don't know like mariota's maybe, not that much better than
some of these other quarterbacks out there.
So, but, like, yourself in the foot, look at this, is this an
example of one here, these teams I'll read off these pairings
cousins and Ford are fine. Rogers and burrow, fine Allen
and car Mega find Jackson, fine, Mariota and Lance, who Could
That? Be, Brady in Winston.
Fine. Kyle.
Oh, fine, Winston DAC. Okay, so you plugged back with
Wentz, fine Mahomes, fine, Wilson and Fields, you're fine.
But you don't feel fine to and hurt.
Smash Herbert. And Lawrence, like, who's going
hard after quarterbacks here? Wilson and field seeing
probably, but yeah Point. Yeah, I don't mean, yeah, once a
day, maybe drops peeled smoothie Fields, the Star Quarterback and
heavily. It's just aren't convinced on
him yet, but she was still available in some leagues and I
think he should be picked up to his example.
I've seen him in a couple. Yeah, wow, yeah, I was getting,
I was getting to a questions, I get mad at some of these
questions I get on Sirius XM and he's like I have Derek Carr but
Joe burrow into Both on the waiver.
Should I pick up? Like what is going on in these
leagues? He said I was in 12 Pearson
leagues, have you? These guys playing some fucking
wild leeks. She's actually makes you
extremely Keen ears. When did Joe burrow go to
waivers it's week, three ball is life.
Sitting here realizing how addicted I have a safe to say if
you're watching this. On a Wednesday evening.
Well while the Survivor debut is going on.
Yes, you're addicted to Fantasy, right?
But if I wasn't doing this, one of the things that I would
definitely not be doing is watching the Survivor bottom
here. I think you gonna say not
watching this show of the, maybe a hundred things I can think.
Or if I was making a list, Survivor premieres somewhere
towards, I will not let you. Slander Survivor Survivor is
excellent television. I just wanted to see things of
every, what I know there are people that have watched all of
Of Survivor and that's why I'm still on and there's people that
are just die hard said if watched like 30 and how many
seasons have that 30, 50 70? And then there's people that are
just like I thought Survivor was a thing, 20 years ago, it still
it still holds up. It's a it's a sociology
experiment every season but I digress.
Ryan says he has kind of hacked the rules though, that they know
that they know what the rules are.
Now, we're going to conjure it up.
There's wrinkles in curveballs karein.
Let's talk Survivor strategy for the saved.
Lip to give Josh a shout out here who commented fixture
League mates. Yeah, thanks your league.
They did you guys see in the Discord?
I was battling with Costco support the other day and they
told me like I did something on the app and then I needed to do
it on the website and they're like, it takes two full days for
what you do on the app to sync to your same account of the
desktop and they go. I was like, I started laughing
and then they go. Is there anything else we can
help you with that? I go.
Yeah, fix your sight. Drop the mic and got out of
there. But going back to this question
for Brian. I mean, we did get the Andy
Reid, quote, I don't know if it was today or yesterday where he
said, he's gonna get be getting more and more work each week.
Are we buying it? Yes, yeah, I mean, I think he's
worth 25%. I think he's probably worth 40
but I don't know how much you need to pay for him because he
hasn't done anything. But my write-up in sending
signals. I talked about I thought an MVA.
I mean, first of all that can you What the Amazon Prime, all
22, with the next gen stats. That was like, I've thought
about this a lot to I'm different shows if you listen to
me. Sorry, that I keep doing it but
they like reinvented broadcast. That was the best broadcasting
over. See that was awesome.
If anyone didn't see it alternate one.
It's just like the all 22 life. You can see the routes and
everything and they were throwing up stats.
Like Mike Williams has run this many hitches and he's got five
and was 47 real. So this is, this is Amazon.
Yeah, here's a night. They have like the Thursday
night package. You know they brought over all
my yeah. So Thursday night games are
going to be fun this year. Nice except tomorrow night's
38.5 over under mr. Biscuit.
Look, we can watch how open all the Steelers receivers are when
missed you too risky? Takes another sack, right?
So yeah, that's true. But II thought mvs was not very
good. You know, getting open, I
thought when my mom's just throwing to him he was not very
competitive at the cash point. I thought he looked bad, doesn't
mean he's is bad, but But they've got him in like a little
bit of a different role and that's been talked up as a good
thing that he's running different routes.
I don't think he's fit for it. Basically Juju looked bad.
I was super in on Juju after week, 13 targets 1.3, 8.4 Area
Arts. They were all dragged routes.
Yeah, but he was good in 2018 been don't forget out but he
looked with the 2020 2019 2020 version on Thursday night.
I think if you watch that game you see Justin Watson wind up
getting deep for the touchdown. But you like it, Michael
hardman's, their most consistent route, Runner.
And that would have been harder than running that route.
Remember he came out, he liked hurt us, yell or something and
then he came out in the very next play, Watson comes in and
scores. But like just are like
intermediate routes hardman's. The guy getting open the most in
your like this is the least consistent player in the league.
That looks like their most consistent player.
I think it's as far as the sky more thing, I think what we've
seen from the Kansas City receivers isn't like it's all
over but it is very clear that it's the path.
Way, is there SkyWars? Good?
And, and I mean, they didn't use more in the in week 2, because
it's a short week. He's a rookie, we know.
Rookies can come on, slow read coming out and saying the thing
that we've been saying about the how rookies need to ramp up,
basically for years, like they got to learn the Playbook a
little bit. They got to practice, more,
whatever, sometimes it takes into the season, and their first
year reads coming out and saying, well we're going to
scale him up throughout the year.
That's the plan with him, but they need him.
Like he has more juice that like we just saw that the Titans do
with trailing Berks and me to and go.
Hey, you know, and wi and and Robert Woods both aren't two
Targets on a ton of routes in week.
One, we need trailer parks to start and run routes because
otherwise, like we can't get Derrick, Henry running Lanes.
We can't do anything unless we have an actual explosive
receiver on the field. Titans did it really quick with
Burke's? I think it's gonna take a little
longer with the Chiefs. They have a lot of money and,
you know, stuff in the nvs and JuJu baskets.
But what we are seeing from them on the field, I think long term
it's still looks like things are going to pan out for more and
then once he plays, I mean as long as he's decent.
Like you're playing with Patrick Mahomes.
So anyway, he just looks like a guy that you stash.
You hold. If he's getting cut, you pick up
and you hold that you've definitely pick them up.
I mean, there's no guarantees. Obviously he could get out there
and be bad like there, you know, maybe there's a reason we
haven't seen me. He could get out there and were
like, oh no, he's bad. But like you just, I would so so
much rather have the trailing Burke's profile that we've
gotten so far. Then the Jehan Datsun profile
that we have so far. Like those to me are like, the
John Dodson. One is like flashing red lights.
It's of like eleven percent Target share.
It's not, it's not good. It's not good.
He's out there for like every route already, which is, which
is a good sign that he's earned that role that's good.
But like, he's not getting targets.
They're throwing a ton to Curtis Samuel.
Carson Wentz has actually been efficient, which I feel like is
not going to last. So it's like everything.
I feel like they've often is probably going to get worse and
you now, your, you need him to show Target.
Learning ability. Hasn't shown through two weeks,
so it's not like he's dust or anything, but I just That's like
how I think about this stuff like I want you know, Garrett
Wilson like five times better than John Dodson right now like
what he's done is sure. It's just so so another guy just
so just so I don't sound like such a homer with Sky Romeo
Dobbs is really funny to look at Caribe on the bottom of this
chart from Sam where we have a J dilla, dare jokes and well-being
jobs and Rubio jobs actually got his real scale back and you too
but Dobbs is a guy that I wouldn't say is as clear as Sky
because they're using Christian Watson.
Just as much Watson actually lost more routes from Week, 1 to
2, the Dobbs did with Lazard coming back week, one.
Watson was a little headed to Dobbs week to Watson was a
little behind Dobbs, which is, I think a slight positive for
dogs, but they're using so much of the veterans and they're
rotating so much. And there's another rookie there
that the path to Dobbs being like a full-time player and kind
of being like, the guy and obviously Rogers likes Lazard.
It seems a little tighter right now and I'm not as thrilled even
though I still see a payoff for him.
Obviously really like the guy the player really like the
talent think he's looked good. He's so funny that he's on this
chart, even though he's not running off routes, then that I
think he should. But yeah.
Just like a compare and contrast with the sky thing.
I'm not just like saying that about Sky because I'm you know,
in on the sky like a legit thinks guy Morris like one of
the best stashes it wide receiver you can have.
Yeah. And I did pull up this chart.
That's a together combined Target, share of the top three
players on each team. Some of them feel a little salt
Small sample noisy but I do think the reason I brought it
up, it's just you look at this. Kelsey 21.9%, Juju, 15% mvs. 15%
like this, this team is just begging for somebody to emerge
as the number two here. If anything, what's happened
these past couple of weeks has been very encouraging for sky.
Like, no one has run away with this number two job.
And now Andy Reid's out here saying, we got to get the rookie
more involved. Yeah.
We also like it is very hard to remember this.
Well, I like now we're in the thick of it.
There's been two weeks of football.
Like it feels like we're really in the season now, but like No
one cares what these rookies did for the vast majority of cases
in week 2 of the 2021 season? Like when we look back at like
what rookies mattered last year, like what happened to me to is
Basically completely irrelevant. I mean you Cajun Ali will find
guys who just break out immediately and are superstars
and they just crush the whole season like Justin Jefferson
did. But you know, for the most part
we're looking more like what common Rusty Brown did where he
just like catches fire at the end of the season and it's oh
yeah, it's hard to keep that in mind.
When you're watching Gary Wilson, look like he's going to
be Justin Jefferson. You're watching Drake London.
Look like he's going to be just Jefferson but that's exactly.
The point is like keep that in mind with Sky.
How far be the guys? In the shadow.
Talking about Howard Robbins is on the Rams.
Well, but how funny is it for the first two guys.
Go that far. And then let's go erotic.
They still the top team even though one of their top three
guys is that little and then can we talk about the Dolphins?
Went look how big they're like six there.
How big it tyresö massive Jaylen waddle or dude their offense.
I got asked on a podcast spot today with Justin bun about my
biggest signal of the year so far with the you know, the
signals in the noise. I said the Dolphins passing
game. It's been awesome.
They're very high pass rate over expected, but also it's like The
Shanty and stuff for the scheming them in the space.
He's getting the ball to the guys.
He wants to get the ball to in space to run.
I mean there were some do is really accurate.
That's something I talked about before the season.
I was like saying, you know, he's got upside to be a more
accurate version of Jimmy Garoppolo and I feel like I
undersold it. Like he's he completed a lot of
passes last year. He was way up there, in
completion percentage loss. Yeah he didn't have you know
obviously Tyreke on the team and he was six Nice gun, 70%.
He's got the same Jimmy stuff where it's like he's going to
miss some guys down field or under throw them or whatever
like he's not he's his arm is an amazing but like he is very
accurate in the kind of short intermediate areas, which is
what this offense is like basically predicated on now I
mean there's there was some downfield stuff Tyreke a tube
down field TVs but I mean some of the breakdowns I saw in their
passing game whether doing some stuff to run Tyreke and then
waddle underneath to get waddle into space on one of his long
catches. I mean it's just It's it look
like they defenses. Might figure out this offense a
little bit as well. I mean, we've seen sort of like,
They ultimately become thought of as like gimmicky offenses,
like the Chip Kelly stuff. Worked really well at first
then, it's like, oh, but it's the same play every single time
and defense has figured it out. I don't know that Mike McDaniel
has just like broken. The NFL there is a possibility
though that from an efficiency standpoint.
He's sort of the next young hot head coach.
That is the scheming stuff up. So this isn't just scheme waddle
and Tyrell kill are like the fastest guys on the field.
Like, you know, he was doing this with, you know, I do like
Richie, James or something. We'd be like I don't think this
is gonna last but he's doing it with with superstars.
So I do think that, you know what, if he gets exposed it'll
probably because he goes like, you know, McDaniels in Denver
and it's like I do I'm better than all of you and you know,
gets rid of these guys and stuff and then but I mean like it's
for as long as he has a leak talents in these roles.
I mean I think I'm lost it's somewhat sustainment.
Not like it goes hand-in-hand. I agree with you.
That obviously the talent is massive but what I think you're
so amazing about what the Dolphins are doing, is it is
everything that we talked about, the Shanahan passing game, where
they're able to always get the ball into good players hands in
space for like lots of yak. But all of that felt like it was
built off of the misdirection in the Run game.
They're always motioning pre-snap and then they're doing
play action. They're doing a lot of things
and he's doing it in Miami. What the really high pass rate,
it's like he's still still drawing up route Concepts that
get them into space but by throwing Every down without
having to use the misdirection and all this stuff, they're
still motioning, it's on, they're still using misdirection
all that but not like not being to it.
Like Build Off The Run game to do it was it this kind of what
Shanahan did in Atlanta May you never passed their actually pass
a team when he was with the Atlanta.
Matt Ryan want to be P like this system can work with passing.
Like I think I I think because of Garoppolo and his
limitations, they've gone so run-heavy while with the 49ers,
it maybe, I don't know, maybe they feel better about their
defense or whatever, whatever the case may be.
But we have seen this offense actually, work quite well with a
focus on the past. When what the other just
hilarious things on this chart, ESB, leading, the Bears at
Target share is hilarious. Scotty Miller leading the fuck
right now is absurd? Well, I mean it looks like he's
done. Not not just games play, but
combined Target. So the Scotty Miller thing is
just no other receivers played two, full games.
Like a got got injected that's the sky Miller does for you,
please all the games, he has nothing.
Legate, the Bears like they threw in two games combined.
No one else had a single game of through weeks, one or two with
fewer than 20 passes in in one game, they combine for twenty
eight passes in the first two weeks, they're really, they're
bad with. Luke gets, he's their guy right.
My God, it's so bad. It's like a joke.
He's like the Bears are skewing all my numbers like for password
of expected against and stuff. I'm like oh you played the Bears
if so fucked up. Yeah, so frustrating like Often
should operate like this. Like they were getting smoked by
the Packers and they just refuse to pass, like they are playing,
not to get embarrassed. They have no interest in trying
to win yet. New sports fan, says, maybe we
should pump the brakes on. Miami Ravens had no secondary.
They played the patriots who basically try to slow down every
game possible over the years. And they had the highest pass
rate over expectation while also having a lead the entire game.
Like, this is signal that we need to take.
Kin and account going forward. They've shown Us in all games
scripts now that they are going to have their feet on the gas.
Yeah, that's a cool thing. The Dolphins are talking about,
right? They don't off.
Yeah, yeah. They trailed against the Ravens,
they LED against the Patriots. They had massive pass rate.
Over expected to the positive. I'm being both scenarios.
I mean, yeah, that's exactly right.
It's just so, it's so bullish. It's awesome.
It's yeah, it's a fantasy wet dream.
Like to have it that concentrated, you know, we're
not getting the I guess we'll get the occasional Durham
Smythe, but like outside of that, like, this is so console,
and it's so funny because Tire can model were both.
So high in a teepee and were like, can they both get there?
It's really kind of tough to see to was late and points in the
offseason. We talked.
Okay, well, maybe two as undervalued but we don't want to
do that old thing where like oh if you have two receivers is
high, that means you have to have the QP higher but that can
be true. When like what's happened is, I
should have it. I become a model, we're under
ranked. Both Tyreke and waddle are like
they I'd be top ten receivers both of them now, which is like,
you know, there, I didn't expect the Dolphins to be the team to
have to top 10 receivers, you know, after two weeks, I do
wonder if this cools off a little, because of the bills,
defense is so good, like, they're crazy good and they
don't Blitz. They'll, I think that the lowest
Blitz right in the NFL, the Blitzen on like less than 5% of
snaps, but they have a really high pressure rate really high.
Quick pressure rate, getting to the quarterback and 2.5 seconds
or less. The pass rush is graded really
well. So like they're kind of in the
perfect position where they're bringing for like every down and
they're still getting the passer and then they're dropping
everyone back in coverage, or coverage has been really good.
So I could see the dolphins struggling this week.
I still think like waddling in Hill because they have all the
volume consolidate to them or still awesome plays.
But I do wonder if maybe the Dolphins.
Aren't ready to handle the bills and then people decide that, you
know, it was basically one big game against the Ravens, which
I, which I think if, you know, for whatever Resurrection or
Market based games, you gotta, you gotta ride out of lost the
bills. Yeah, the Bills game is going to
be really telling game, that's good.
That's one of my most anticipated games of we'ii just
from a Big picture season-long what's the story of 2022
perspective. I'm really interested to see how
they play in that game. This is actually an interesting
comment that I hadn't really thought about dr.
Evil says, Cedric Wilson, contingent value.
If that thesis plays out and something happened to one of
these guys I could see that I could see it.
Yeah. I mean it's not going to be
nearly as fun because Waddles taking Slants and go into the
house. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I would
imagine targets consolidate to him.
I liked it. I liked that too.
He be like, it's, it would be pretty analogous.
Probably to Tyler Boyd, right with last of a standalone roll.
It wasn't a good player, good. I mean Pat you great Prospect at
Boise State, right? I mean like how do you take a
bullet for Kaiba? Day three guy.
But like for that profile, not a shock that he stuck around and
got right and was pretty good with Dallas.
They paid him a lot of money. I think he's, you know, right in
the age range where he could have, you know, he would be
considered as Prime if you will. Like he could have a good
stretch, maybe he's not going to be a great player forever, but
you can see a contingency basis. Like What are those guys goes
down? Cedric Wilson, has 68 games and
you know, like member. I don't know why this, it's
popping my head. But remember what Drew Bennett
for the titans of this three games that were just like
anybody remember this from, I don't know, 2006 or something,
Andrew Bennett. Yeah.
Yeah, he had three just Monster games.
Never did anything else the rest of his career?
Like that's like, you could happen.
I want to get sticky comment saying targets would consolidate
to him, I don't think so. I think that was literally 2004,
I just booked 8 touchdowns 120 plus yards in three straight
games. 3T these three TVs to TVs over a three-game, span at a 12,
catch game 233 yards, 13 catch hundred 60, yard game, just
randomly never did anything else, the rest of his career.
What was I going to say? Oh one name, I wanted to float
by you guys that I haven't seen discussed a lot led.
The Ravens in snaps JK Dobbins week-to-week.
Is there any love for our old flame, just as Hill?
Or is he just bad? I know there's the clip of him
having the giant hole and he didn't run through it all the
film Bros or like socks and I'm like, whatever.
But I don't know man. It's sort of hard to overlook
that clip for me to pass watching the tape.
Damn, it look, I mean, we're talking about a guy who had 36
percent of the snaps last week so like he needs to be good.
He has to be good to get more playing time.
Also, So JK diamonds will eventually play like, I don't
know. I'm like that doesn't seem like
a guy who's going to get a lot more work this week.
I don't, I mean, can I? Can I make it zap?
Router film case. Okay.
Was that run that terrible? Oh, my date.
Here we go, because he's moving right to left that.
He starts to kind of cut up field and the DB as leverage to
the inside of feel that they give you goes in that Gap.
The dbe's like 15 yards downfield and is it isn't
contact on the Block at all. And I think gets him, it gets
more yards, but I don't think he's gone or anything.
I think the DV Cuts him up, so he was trying to run by -
blocks. I think when he tried to run
behind this blocks, The blocks 20 yards away on the sideline.
What is he? Just goes straight hunting to
find out. By the way, the fuck is gonna
take you seriously with. This is the screen because we
don't get to see the DB, but the Deep he's not even engaged.
He comes forward, look at DP can get there.
Oh my God, that's the worst. I'm sorry.
Audio listener. So for the audio listeners, just
as Hilda speed is going to the side.
Dude, dude, that is a horrible run.
That is a horrible run. Not a good run.
It's horrible. I mean, look, he's got another
blockers. Pat he's falling.
He has another black. What's the tight end?
The tight end goes out or herself or something you guys.
Yeah, the tight end, set number, 70 pulls and sets up by he goes,
he scores he straight-up scores, if you just read that bill
Corry, yes he is. I love this.
We're going in reverse. It does, stay calm, Jesus
Christ. What are you seeing?
I don't know. I'm sorry, just just just right
here. If he goes straight right here,
he's got a block right at the middle.
He needs some make this safety beat like and Andrews.
By the way, would probably block him.
He's gone. He's gone.
Just realized how fun it is to be a film, bro.
You just like, toggle your hand going back and forth Just
analyzing every step. I mean, this is incredible.
This one of the car right here. Well, his friends all off here
is, of course, only off. I said it has his choice wrong.
Why didn't have like a head nod to the inside yet?
Is he faking out? Why he's someone who doesn't
exist. Thanks.
Look, there's literally nothing. Nothing at all in front of him
and he cuts away from it. All right?
Anyway. This looks like he's behind you
Walker. Do you want to maybe try to
like, cut through them? Yeah, sure.
I'm saying at this point, he like trips over himself runs
into Bateman and then runs out, I'm going between just go, go,
go, go back inside, it was nothing there.
Oh, cut back, this is where know, Alright.
Alright let's talk about real quick.
Someone asked about him earlier. The if we look at are yard
share, I want to kind of get because we don't really have
much of a lot of a I want to see how nervous you guys are.
Are yard, share leaders through two weeks AJ Brown 50% Davante.
Adams Cooper cup kylo. Lock it all at 46% Courtland
Sutton 45% Stefon Diggs and Chris.
Olave at 44%, I would be worried if the guy that we were passing
on him to draft wasn't Garrett Wilson, which was the case.
So he finally might have gotten the just in general.
Some of it was Sky more. We did take Skye more over him.
That's true. I still.
Is this a bad? Take?
I still think I'd rather have Sky more the way.
Our teams are constructed. No, not been olave than Allah,
be no no Karen Wilson. What about that little bit?
And I don't want to spend too much time on it but I think the
Massive number of very Arts, is a little inflated kind of
prairie Arts. Jameis Winston not actually a
good deep ball. Thrower, he gets it are Jamis
stuff, but he's good in the intermediate and deep
intermediate-range. He's actually gets like, below
average above like 30 plus yards of are yards.
He's like the only quarterback that ever tanked DeSean
Jackson's efficiency, just like, not actually that great on the
go routes basically and he like they were clubs.
Everyone's looking at the are yards like go back and look at
the bombs like a lot of them work closely to a peck.
We had heard it says a good tweet on it.
Finally hit him. It does about how bad they were.
Yeah. The good prayer.
Yard compilation on good. Yeah.
Well somebody should go wash that.
That's that's a I mean not to say that a lot of it didn't do
anything good. It was obviously great and he
had a good game but like they're trailing and they were just
like, chucking it up and praying like it was like Denzel Mims all
over again. Well, I think Pat like there's
just any, he's gonna have some big weeks, right?
No one's denying that but it's just like, will you ever feel
good about consistently? Being a lava this year.
Yeah. Yeah.
I guess that is the concern. I do.
You know if he gets, he might have contingent value in a
sense, right? Like Michael Thomas tweaks, the
ankle again. I mean he's already got, I'd
guess what I would say is we were talking about, you know,
the role for Burks in the role for the role for get Wilson.
Being so impressive, and a lava is flashing a different version
of that because it's more about a ton of air yards.
Then I'm super high Target, right?
But I've heard that's pretty good first one.
It kind of had to step that Stalin was out of bounds.
Yeah. We are of this.
One is double covered. It's picked off.
Like maybe you can fit that, but I did.
This is the correct answer. The stripper live.
Get only think about week 17 down, 50 week, 17 for a mill in
the main. You start a lava not over
Garrett. Well said, but yeah, you're very
tightly covered on that. Like they were just like were
chucking it to him. Even if there's a guy in Phase
with them then I was the first, I was nice.
Yeah. That even though that's a
fumble, so one catch. Yeah, that's the one catch.
Oh God. He's getting targeted on 22% as
routes. That's I had a loan is good.
I need the Benny Hill Music. So this is the best one.
He's trying to catch. All right, we got eight minutes,
any other any bids, we should really some want me to release a
kicker bid. I did take that.
I did take a, take a peek. I think I took it.
Take a peek on. We're taking a take a peek on
like Harrison Bryant and one leg, it's getting it's getting
rough. Oh, I think we should take a
peek on Cade York, you know, like see what he does.
He's gonna throw, you don't stop, don't be such a funny bit
is if you always took a peek on the kicker and I drove him back.
I mean, it would have actually been a decent strategy for the
very first Thursday night gave, but it would be a great bitch.
I just can't I can't stop taking a peek on these kickers.
You don't come back, you know. Like we don't have a ton of
kicker bids because we had some at gay.
We got some Greg, Joseph, we got some Tyler bass.
I mean, I hate to say it, guys about.
We just drafted some good fucking kickers.
I don't know what you guys want me to tell you.
Well we are picking up some defense has this week though.
Our defense is did not look good across the board.
Oh you mean this would be would be better off with kickers if
they're watching kicker. Chasing it. 383 M Easter every
every week back. I'll accept this challenge Sam.
I took a take a peek. I took a take a peek.
I took it take a peek.
I took a take a peek at it, could take a peek.
You turned Irish at some point and I also think he said that
six times I well I wasn't sure until I was like I'm gonna give
a bonus one for the fans. That was for the YouTube members
Goddess that was just for the listeners listener service.
You know, you guys have gotten forgotten the past couple weeks
since draft season. Thank you Dave.
I appreciate that idiot. Other challenges from the chat.
No actually not who what? Who wants a bed name?
A player. And I'll tell you how much we've
been on him. This is where Ben and I gotta
stop doing this 9:54. It's so early six more minutes.
This is supposed to be 959 bit. You like slowly the whole don't
grab when it's a no Brown we put a bit on him somewhere did we?
I don't know like six six dollars, six dollars, We snuck
him onto our Penta lineup last week for a buck or something,
right? When we get it, we got ahead of
this pain. Hendershot this is what this is.
How you get new YouTube members. You say I took I take it took a
peek. Six tickets and comfy.
Welcome, Dylan. Plenty more of the tongue
twisters in the disk or lava days and keas we did not but man
I tell you think so like people were thrown out people were not
even bidding on it so it's a it's a weak weak man.
I mean yeah there are no no. People that they like are
excited to know about theirs. You're right.
I did just find the Noah Brown bid that money you gave up then.
I didn't say that we did six dollars you did and that was
true. I was on me.
Yeah. Because I really don't care.
If we get over here. All right, I'll show you are our
team with Davis and I'm going to show you the bid Darryl, Juan
Johnson, Uncle Andy, where were you last week?
But yeah, jajuan Johnson is already on the squad.
I mean I was trying to tell Pat all last week that you are
Johnson very good. Obviously I was right about
that. You're in.
Yeah, it was And targets and getting another 20 yard catch,
like, kind of confirms what the role is, like, what your thesis
was right? He's upside there, it's not
great, but like he's worth rostering for sure, for sure.
Yeah, so I have our team with Davis pulled up and I mean, this
is as they would say A2, V2 away from winning, all the buddy, but
Ivy, we got tray layouts. It Derrick Henry on this team
with fucking Justin. Jefferson Amon-Ra T Higgins.
Darren Waller Drake London. I mean Trail.
David Burke's. I mean this team is so sick.
Did you Derrick Henry in the second?
The worst report. I mean, so I was actually
telling shot about this to you today because I was so excited
about it and his response was and this is actually great that
this might play out for us. Well, because our team so good,
we might be able to get Derrick Henry through to the postseason
on and as the only one that we might have a potential for a
Derrick Henry smash as a very low on Derrick Henry, which is I
think a really positive spin on what we're looking at here.
The thing about the trail ants though is this draft we took
Trail and 704. I want to go back and watch it.
I want to see how mad we were but Kyla Marie wants 702.
Jalen hurd's 1703, we took training must have an old.
We must have missed played it right because we probably
thought we could push quarterback and then we got the
last of the tier or there are tear down really what we took
Drake loitering in the SEC. So I'm kind of glad if we miss
it. I'm glad we miss played it, but
yeah. Yeah, I learned, I think you do
that again. Yeah, yeah, for sure, we're
probably like, well, we'll get Lance if both Kyle and hurts go
and then they both went 702, 703, you're right.
We took. Oh, I mean, I don't know when
we're supposed to get a quarterback as we want.
Justin Jefferson. Derrick Henry maybe we should
have taken Josh Allen there, D Higgins, Darren Waller, I'm in
Rusty, Brown Drake London. Great trap.
Great draft for spot and we all really liked it.
Remember, we were trying to say, like, what was our pick that?
We least like that was like, mad about severe white but like,
everything else on this draft was like, was great.
You know, there was mean, we could really say we didn't like
who work, who are we going to take?
If we didn't take, Derrick Henry, did we even have that
conversation? Because Dana was tempered.
Javonte member, you were pushing for Javonte Davis was adamant.
He didn't want to take t, A second.
Did any of us float? Tyree, I know you you were like
you had sort of quietly you'd said, like we're taking Henry
here or to smash, we're taking Henry, or something, and he
falls. So kind of knew I was like, I
was is an uphill battle with you and Davis being firmly Henry.
So I don't think I pounded the table.
I was just sort of resigning myself to taking their dog, dog.
We're very well aware that Tyree kill is who we should have
taken. We're talking about who we
actually were were. Did you guys realize the first
two weeks has really played into To the Javonte Williams rb1
thesis, right? Oh yeah, yeah.
It's been. I've been as someone who wanted
to be on your Fanta and then was like, I don't know if he
necessarily has the upside, he has.
Yes, he's look like it and the other guys don't look so good.
That, like, you need like a 27 point per game season, right.
He could be 22 points per game and be the guy.
Yeah, you know what? That also reminds me of similar
like surprising number of targets and who I would be happy
to even draft slightly more aggressively.
She is briefs whole like briefs hold getting this much early.
I thought it was going to be buried for, like, four to five
weeks. What was the bullshit with him?
Using all those routes this week?
He is buried in a weird way but he's he's like been so good that
it doesn't matter. He's getting further, super high
rate, we got Johnson week one and then his routes got cut for
like no good reason and time. Talking Johnson, tie Johnson is
just a skirt. Shit.
He's been so good Bree sighs all 26 routes 10 targets week 17
routes in me to the only got one target.
He scored a touchdown on it. He had another Target for like a
20-yard screen that got called back for like an eligible.
Downfield like is about 27% Target per hour on.
Here's a ten percent Target share, he is only run 30% of the
routes that should be impossible.
I mean, it's pretty crazy. I'm very bullish on him.
I mean, he's he has the same role as Michael Carter.
They're both, they're both doing both things.
So I mean, if Carter were to go down I think all would well, I
guess part of it too. Is, is Wilson going to tank this
offense? Once he gets back?
Because I think Zach Wilson might be hard.
It might be bad for the running back.
Yeah, the thing is, is based on like all the rhetoric with, from
the coaches to, or they're like, we need to make sure Zach
Wilson's, both body and mind or right before he comes back.
I honestly think if he looks like dog shit, right?
They'll just they'll just pull him, right?
And just start playing Flacco again.
Like, I don't think they're going to like commit to Zach
Wilson for a super long time. If he's playing like dog, shit.
I don't know that they would, they'll try to like make it seem
like it's injury-related for as long as they can get away with
it, but I don't think they want to straight up, bench.
Zach Wilson, who they spent the number two overall pick on for
Joe Flacco. I think that's going to create
some real story lines. They don't want to deal with
Yes, Flacco been good. Not really, I don't think he's
been good enough for that. Anyway, you know, been good
enough for our Garrett Wilson shares.
Yeah, he's been great for Fantasy.
That's good. Yes, yeah.
But isn't it bad? I think you Frank's it.
Like the round 20th, any paper plate or something like that.
We got the stat chasing boys, joining us tonight.
Draco and Sam wanted to have them on because we had a pretty
fun sweat and also to make sure you guys are watching stat
chasing last week. It came out a little later this
week, it was out for YouTube members last night.
For everyone else this morning. So Draco, and Sam.
You guys have been doing a great job.
Welcome to the flagship show to talk about this sweat that we
had across two teams. Let's first talk about, At the
stat chasing team. You got, I went to bed so
someone else set up the stuff that was going on while I was
sleeping. Yeah.
Okay okay, yeah, I think so. We were down 80 going into
Monday night and we had hurts AJ, Brown, Jake, Elliott, and
Stefon Diggs. And I think we're going against
a team that still had Tyler bass.
So it's set up for an awesome sweat.
I mean, digs, when absolutely nuclear got us 40 points.
And at the same time, hers put up like I don't know, 30 points
in the first half of that game. Or something close to it.
So it started like, we didn't even really need to sweat the
second half. And basically it was it was
almost like over, but Midway through the third quarter just
as powerful, well, hurts and digs played, but it was pretty a
pretty insane come back. If I think the most fun thing
about it was that like, by the projections we were way off.
But when you have Stefon Diggs, AJ, Brown and Jonah hurts to go,
they do just have that eruption like That is like just one time,
one time this team is just so funny to looking at her rb1 and
rb2 spots and have a look, we put up 180 with Penny and Gordon
giving us, 7.8 cruise ship jacek T-Rex.
Yeah, and I be the, the running backs.
Interesting. We get moster coming on, which
should hopefully help in on this team.
We don't even have room to start Drake London and Garrett Wilson.
So this this team is is going to be very fun here, going forward.
I mean, I don't even know how we're going to make these
starts. It decision, the robust are
b-bros were right guys, how are we going to know noticed our top
15 wide receivers to start? We might need to trade one of
these stars that we are set up pretty well.
I could see you know baby needs to get out there and run a Full
Slate of routes or his his starting spot is yeah.
What do we think about these events this week?
Right? I don't know what we do there.
I'm not gonna I'm not going to be pounding the table for
Bateman. I think it's a I think it's
pretty close. I was proud of these guys he's
running the least amount of routes super it's super weird.
I don't know why he's been awesome when he's out on the
fields he I mean I had no idea was that fast.
He's a second fastest ball carrier in the NFL right now.
You know, by NFL next-gen, the only guys run faster than him.
Um, is actually Devin du vernay honest kickoff return for a
touchdown is. I mean, he just, he outran that
whole defense pretty wet, pretty wild.
He looks like an absolute Smash in.
Like he can only go up from here if they increase his usage,
which seems undeniable. That's the thing, I mean, at
this point, if it just feels like upside because he's
eventually gonna run all the routes, you think?
I mean, yeah, all of that. Yes, but part of something we
talked about Laden draft season, was it with Jake and I was not
looking likely to play that. Might just be really past heavy
again because I don't trust it running backs.
Like they were last year. I do think there's a little bit
of Team, level past volume downside.
It Dobbins you as a potentially come back and is healthy.
I agree. Um, getting some compliments on
your guys's episode of stat chasing this says, Elite viewing
for people who didn't catch this week show any teases.
Can you maybe set up for them? Kind of what exactly you guys
are doing. You guys have put together some
really good charts as well. All to accompany the show.
We're about to polite. So I'll go first.
And we are looking at, I guess we're building off the work.
That sound hopin did last year and we're trying to display in
the most actionable way possible.
And we are, I guess we're trying to.
We're trying to chart data where it's one or two data points on
one chart that should tell you a lot of what you need to know.
About different players and how they fit in the context of their
position. And then we're also trying to
work in different resurrection atp's.
And we've been using the about a rail atps.
And we've also been talking about kind of a waiver wire sort
of stuff as well. There's just try and make it as
most actionable as we can. Yeah.
That's what I'm really excited about that direction that you
guys are pushing it in because I do think, you know underdog He
is putting up so many good contest weekly we and they even
just launched their big dog for rest of season best ball.
So, there is so many other ways to apply this then just on the
waiver wire and even just on DFS.
So it's fun to be able to project things out further.
So, I think you guys are doing great, Sam.
I know the one I asked you guys about this, I'm seeing some of
the bids come in, with Darrell Williams.
We had a lot of weirdness with the James Conner.
Practice reports. What was the tldr on your guys's
take away? Way for the Durrell Andino
situation. Yeah, the quick quick answer
there is, you know, in week 1, you know, played all the backup
snaps Darryl Williams and even get into the game.
So we thought that was signal that you know, was the clear
number two. But if you look at the, if you
look at what actually happened last week, Daryl slightly
outpaced, you know, in terms of expected points it basically we
had a conversation about this offline trick.
I mentioned it basically came down to Darryl getting a little
bit more work in the Red Zone, then you know, They're pretty
close on snaps and touches and targets and everything.
So, it looks like a pretty even 50/50 split, which is, I think a
bit of a bummer for, you know, drafters for sure.
Given what we expected after week one, but you'll see on this
chart here. Daryl Daryl actually pops around
like 10 expected Point sort of in the middle of that gray area
and then on this chart here, you know, comes in a bit lower and
more in the 510 expected Point range.
So yeah, a little Barking, you know, but I still think if
Connor actually to miss time, he would still have like a pretty
decent size for all its tail, nice that he got touches in both
games, but it's so frustrating that Connor got injured and he
was still some caps. Yeah, I know, although I guess
it would have been also, the biggest tease if Connor left,
Andy know, like, ran away with it, and then, Connors back here,
Linda practice and just starting again, I mean, that would have
been the blue balls. Version might even be Worse.
Honestly, all right, I got some bids coming in here.
Speaking of before, forgive me, I do want to.
Yeah, I do want. If you can pull up the other
team that bucket. Yes.
Ours is the other part of this Sweat, Right?
So we're we have this come back on this.
A chasing team that is now going to, well, this digs and Alan
stuff. We're up against Josh Allen's
and Stefon Diggs in our Buckeye Boomers team, and all we have is
Tyler bass. So, We're now like, rooting for
Tyler bass who were going against instead of chasing,
because we're getting too many points from digs.
And we also on the statues and team still had AJ Brown and, and
hurts and stuff to go. So somehow we pulled out both
wins. This one was like a real
squeaker. We won by like, literally a
point. And that's an insane middle that
you guys got both of us. I don't know how that's
possible. I'll tell you how being close
to, right? Well, then Gordon the connective
tissue to both teams that's that's another little wrinkle to
this because we were deciding between Devon Singletary and
Melvin Gordon and Joshua literally flipped a coin and and
it landed on Singletary. So he was on Singletary for.
He was trusted the man's coin but we outvoted the coin, went
with Melvin Gordon and if we had them we would have lost.
And we I said we were looking at Leone's rankings.
He had Melvin Gordon projected higher and I said, guys, We just
play Melvin Gordon and then we could blame Leone if we lose.
It's like the ultimate free roll.
So yeah. And we haven't given him any
credit he has. He's got okay projections.
We could say like, you know, it's like, it's okay.
Yeah. We like his projections with us.
We think we can. I do better.
The bed was. All right.
So let's look at some of these big groups.
If you are co-managing with us, you want to send some more of
these. Over feel free.
This is from our ship chasing Yacht Club.
What? Oh, you're ready?
Go? Okay.
Oh yeah, Darrell Williams 129. No abroad, 11 12.
Oh, Jimmy G 43. Oh, Dak Prescott, someone
stashed in him for 13 quiz 24, and a Galore 29 pretty, pretty
light, All Things Considered here.
Yeah. Nothing happened there.
What I think happened would help week.
You guys were set saying the the waiver wire is it's got to feel
nice. Thought egg people are spending
money. It does feel nice.
Yeah, when when when the big fish those come up there that
hopefully everybody else is just spent just enough that you can
kind of get a bargain bid on them.
Guys. I am very Giddy and excited to
report that we have a blurry screen shot from the Buckeye
Boomers. Here, we're back on our bullshit
here in 229 for Noah Brown, why? It's not blurry enough.
You're right. It doesn't make us feel like we
did a trip to the eye doctor, then your messages.
Yeah, Richie Jan's 103, golf 77 Marlin Mac, 59, people,
gradually were talking about Chargers defense.
We picked them up here for 33 years, really, nice schedule,
the next few weeks. Obviously, everything and ffp
sees pass attempts against and their offense is going to help
that their defense is good. They got cut because they, you
know, they played the Chiefs last week.
So this is like a multi-week B 33 bucks, more than you normally
better on defense. But like, we can start in for
like, the things like three or four weeks or something.
Before they have a tough matchup and they just legit might have a
top-five defense, you know. I know they do.
Yeah, their defense is awesome. Good pass rush like, yeah.
They're gonna get passwords Pat's attempts against and they
were good pass rush. That seems like a good Jaguars
Texans Browns, Broncos Seahawks we could probably claim against
the Broncos and then you get the Seahawks oh for sure by
definitely claim against the Broncos.
Yeah. That's like five straight games
that are very playable before their by three of them at home.
Come out of the by don't they have someone to there like a
good Atlanta out of the by? Yeah.
The layout of the by here. Like I don't, we pick up someone
this week. Let's see here.
This is from our slow Bros draft with Silas and Gore mangy, and
William Marlin, Mac 2006, but this is, we're getting closer
with the blurriness. I just want to.
Wow, Carson went 163. That has to be a lance owner
there. Yeah.
For you think Marlin Mac? Is we think he's the most likely
to be the are B2 over Jordan Mason.
I think maybe you think it's Mason.
I think I probably Mason to. He got cut from the Texans,
like, yeah, that's never a good sign.
I was just thinking like it since been exclusively special
teams now, two weeks in a row. Right.
So it's like four players that they like, right?
So like week one. Sure they had had Jeff Wilson to
back up. After Elijah Mitchell goes out
and they like him and then the and they probably don't have
Mason in the game plan enough week to, they had TVP But Mason
they liked in the preseason, you ran well and they kept him over
to a sermon. There was all that talk that
like it was his, it was the Tracer man roster spot.
They kept him. He must have done something
right as a runner, it's not just special teams, right?
Yeah. Because a guy like him, normally
just makes the practice squad, he didn't really have anything.
I don't think, I mean it's Prospect profile wasn't very
good. So - I think they could have
gotten us with frost. Do you think you made the team
for just for special teams? Maybe that's a possibility.
I don't know. Yeah, I miss this to historical
anomaly says 49ers. Hello woman just to the practice
squad. I assume to replace back on the
practice squad. Yeah sounds in a playoff game
with that team just a couple of years ago I remember we say I do
like this so people wondering about this ride tail for $70
Jack says guy something a little butter die.
Football and said that's the guy you need.
I actually do think I looked at the Titan schedule earlier this
week and it's actually pretty easy.
The he'll be fine. You'll be fine wood.
How good our deep the quarterback pool is this year,
does it strike you guys is like bad to be putting on high bids
for any quarterback? Yes.
I would say to strike you as bad to have spent in early pick on
all your team's on. Well, there's a couple that
actually have real upset. I think, I don't think, I mean,
the trail and stuff is so disappointing, but obviously
like Lamar showed that ceiling. Kyler showed that ceiling Josh,
Alan's been fine. Like, they've all been really
zero regrets about taking Joe and hurts, right?
Joe and hope not. Yeah, he looks guys have backed
up the thesis of the elite quarterback but I'm with you
Connor. I don't think you You should be
bidding very big on any quarterback.
Well and what's so fun about this stat chasing team.
Is, it is how you want to do 0 running back where you are,
crushing everyone at every other position except running back,
which is what this team can do with her taller.
And so what I was going to ask what we gotta get big home
because we were all in Vegas and Sam was not and seeing you
wanted to take a few more running backs, and we look at
how deep And strong. Our receivers are, is there any
part of you that says? I wish they would listen to me
and take another running back around.
But which which receiver would be, I think drink one day I had.
This is, why would I ask him? I'm curious, I'm curious how Sam
feels about this honestly. Yeah, so I think the big
argument that we had where it was it was basically one before
I wanted Pollard in the 7th and you guys wanted London which was
at the time or water. 05 It's tough, right?
Because like, obviously in a vacuum, I'd rather have London
and Pollard, that's such an easy answer.
Like, it's a teepee should be way higher but on this team like
knowing that, we also hit on Burks and Wilson, I'm not sure I
wouldn't still rather have have Pollard just for the upside
case. But Sam we gotta radicalize you
a little more. We got rid of Sam, we didn't
know what hit on Wilson at Berks.
We needed three shots and we got to, I know I'm not saying Yeah.
I think we might hit three of them.
Yeah Let It Go on 343 which is the crazy, I guess I guess the
point I was like, trying to push you guys on and obviously we hit
amazing water saver so it just looks dumb.
Now that I'm still trying to argue this is that like we were
going to love the wide receiver values, late with Wilson and
Burks. Like I knew some of those guys
would be there. So is there a 2 b 2, where we
switch out London for Pollard, or CH?
Or, I can't quite see the board here, like it.
Is there something like that or even though the London pick,
Awesome in a vacuum with still, like I mean we're starting with
shot at end of the day we're starting like Richard Petty,
right. But the to be to edit up instead
of being a wide receiver running back TV to it was just we're
going to take the receivers and post box.
Yeah, I think that the it hard Sam is the realistic ones.
Like, I'm looking at it and I'm like, okay, maybe we talk
ourselves into briefs Haulover Bateman like I'm just trying to
think even what would have been realistic?
I mean, the best one, honestly. If we could just like hand pick,
it is to not take D Higgins. In the third and take Nick
Chubb, which there's no chance we're doing that is the
realistic this of it. Like well honestly honestly what
it is is just if we take any of the other backs available
instead of Rashad penny. So what 2000?
Yale Henderson. I think I put in the chalak to.
You guys are asked me what running back do you want?
And I put Henderson in like, not knowing that we had five seconds
left and then you guys were like we took penny and I was like,
fuck, that was it. Part that most strongly argued
burger for Henderson over Penny, but like I mean who who knew
that the Seahawks would deploy a trap.
Also menu controls evaporating a little bit.
I was just gonna say that same thing.
I'm not that excited but not as much just pennies role as if
that. Yeah, that's true.
It run 50 plays in the game like that's a problem.
I damn sure doesn't matter is that we are going to Where we're
going to need to start multiple bench, guys, just because
injuries do happen. Like I'd be shocked if we made
it through the year and we're still able to start now
Torchwood. If we don't have spots where we
need to start. London.
Burke's Wilson. Oh yeah.
I wish alone. It's such a smash.
I don't think I've ever heard touch what Yeah, that's grass.
Knock on wood, that's grass. We should start saying things.
Like, I should stop saying, when you guys do like a good stat
chasing. Take your like, so the size of
these bubbles here, touch grass is, I had to pull up this.
This is our from our chat during the draft.
Sam goes, I'm pretty strongly Pro.
Hammering two running backs here draco's Woods gone, Christian
Watson. We do only have five Draco, says
Penny for me but good Burke's who's your favorite running
back? Sam that saves as galipoli OTC.
I say we ROTC quickly. That goes 30 seconds.
I said you needed a variety back otherwise perks and then you say
I take headers in there and the fat goes we would Petty.
So yeah that one was that wood was materializing very quickly.
Yeah look at my comment ran out of time and I felt bad for see
him not being there with us because we were scrambling
talking to each other. Like you know, ran out of time
of We got the five seconds. I need a name, we got that from
the guy. He was like meet about it.
He's like 5 seconds. I didn't name and really that's
like Petty In fairness to him. The clock went down pretty low a
couple times. We were, I think we're good at
like doing most of the communication and the chop but
the one thing that we didn't do is we never said, oh, we're on
the clock or we're a band. We never had But all in all
very, very few regrets on this team.
I mean, when you get the structure and the player
selections, you know, coming together in this way.
It is super, super fun that that round 8 pick though.
You guys are talking about the running backs and went right
after that. They would have said, I mean,
Penny felt like a good fast, start guy.
It's got the Seahawks. I can really sing it worse.
That you thought they could be as an offense for resonating.
I think it was as I was leaving Vegas, I realized Cuz I've been
so adamant that Pete Carroll, you know, such a liar and I
wasn't going to get got. And then I was realize, like,
oh, I did get got because he's lying about Kenneth Walker and
give us Walker's, going to be healthier than he's saying, he's
gonna be back soon and I've been taking then, so he's gonna get
me. I knew he was gonna get me and
then shut up, he did. I mean, even setting that aside,
even if Walker wasn't back this week is not walk again a ton the
fact that they are still a sub 50 play team and I mean they
were at like 56 per game last year and massively lower than
any other team. These first two games had been
sub 50, they were 49 47. And they have Geno Smith at
quarterback now because like, at least when you had Russell
Wilson, you're playing that way, there's a potential for like big
efficiency or whatever, like, that's just the worst, they're
on par with the Bears just like two offenses that are that bad.
What's so frustrating about it is?
Like, I mean, you know, this doesn't help them as if NFL
football team, but like the Panthers have been a terrible
offense for years, but they've been getting the ball out.
Quickly to a running back right there, getting the ball quickly.
The Seahawks are getting that super quickly.
Gina Smith has a super low a DOT after week one.
I think it was the lowest in the league.
I'm sure it's still crazy little, it's always our po
stuff. Starting DK Medcalf, like, over
the middle of the field. Very shallowly, just fucking
targeted, running back. So we can actually use the
points place. It's just a disaster.
The problem is, if they did Target running back, it would be
Travis home. It would be okay with that.
If it needs to be Travis, that's fine.
This better first and second-round pick in the real
Anna. Draft on running backs and what
the past four years and they have Travis yet Homer leading
the team with the 45% staff share just a great great roster
construction from Seattle Bullpen.
He's not even on his rookie deal anymore.
They got big, I guess those. Those games, the end of last
year was the all they got from him on his rookie deal because
this is an incredible, 0r B. Team is another brilliant.
Even without Penny being good, like, we just have to find some
answers at running back because everything else is like Coming
into shape. But never did get taller out
here. We did we do.
Yeah, we did post wheat, nice. We're starting him.
Dude's got a roll. We're playing them right.
We got mustard here, man. We start.
Yeah, most certain Melvin Gordon isn't it?
Yeah, people. All right, most of all, we're
going to ensure that is that those feel nice, that you, that
you have guys that are like borderline, start a boil and
then we can just kind of turnout Benchmark, figures.
Take a lottery tickets through. What that was?
It is Dyer is Sean starting Tae Chandler week what it would have
his beta vets tell that story and then he started, I don't
know, welcome Brown a couple years ago, gotten three points
out of the RV to spot in his next week.
And so he has three points total out of his RV to spot and that
teams the top 200 overall God. Yeah, for all the times we've
worried about your rb2 slot that team is that's a pretty good
reason form of art. Yeah, one of the same.
One thing I did want to say is we're kind of recounting this
whole thing. I was saying to somebody one of
you guys probably while we're still in Vegas.
After we got done we're looking at emails.
Like it's actually really glad that seems kind of pushing us
towards running backs because we wound up getting really nice.
ATP values on Burks and Wilson. And so the way the team came
Together at like, all of us, kind of, you know, pushing and
pulling for different things. We wound up with enough running
back Firepower. I mean, not even not enough, but
like, more than we probably would have.
If it was like, we were just trying to be like me patent.
Peters should be really aggressive and receiver like to,
like, penny has been great, but we've also got Gordon and you
have some other like, most Earth-like we wound up with a
few names that are this is better than some of my other 0r
Beatles. And looking.
What's interesting looking at this board and just the pocket
of what I would say is the sweet spot for the 0r B, you know that
round eight, nine to eleven twelve.
Like there hasn't been a real hit there.
Yes. Like, you know, Jeff Wilson was
much later with, I'm just saying like yeah we still have it.
This story isn't over for like the that range of players.
It's not the other thing I want to just mention, what, with Sam
pushing Us in the right direction, as we got Jalen
hurts, where we wouldn't. So, if you have the board
people, there was a major decision here.
We were, like, do we take Take London here or do we take hurts
and we're looking at? Oh yeah.
All of these guys are ready. Having quarterbacks I really
want to London there? I was not happy with.
See it. When you think I was the only
one he wanted hurts. Their that we gotta take London,
I thought? Yeah, I think you were like, all
wanted but we are also like it would really suck to have his
AJ, Brown stack, get ruined. We're very excited to get hurts.
So, but we're like, okay. There's Herbert Mahomes Jackson
is gone and the one of the other teams doesn't have a
quarterback, but they have Marquis Brown, so they'll
probably go color Marie. But we heard from the guy in
five that he would have taken hurt.
So if we don't take hurts their, we're not getting him, which
would be a disaster in retrospect and then we still got
London. So it just ended up being one of
those things where we prioritize the stack and it worked out.
Yeah, I thought hurts had a better shot of coming back
because one, two, three teams all had cubies.
And I thought Only four and five were available to take QBs, in
memory as a backstop. But we went hurts.
And like you said, the five, the five team, yeah, you just look
and make sure interesting is, yeah.
I think after hurts and and Marie arguably like that next
quarterback, tier of Ross Perot Rogers.
Brady lamb Prescott the Atlantic plants.
Well, those guys are like for different reasons.
Look like pretty. T.
Terrible pretty. It's like that tear break was
very Justified. Yeah.
Yeah and it's interesting like I did Big to your brakes in my
rankings. This year.
I did the big tear break after Borough Wilson.
I can kind of Prescott and and Lance was definitely above and
Brady. I think I had above it and then
I have this big to your brake and the other guys Rogers in the
rest of them. But that big to your break was
just after the top six. I mean that's the and well I
mean Lance gets hurt. What do we know?
We don't know. He could have went on that good
year but it really was like those other guys.
Like there was a clear top six and Lance was a seven for some
of us like me and then there was like another for but the big
tear It was after that six or seven.
Yeah, in this broke well to just in general because we have some
hurts. We have some AJ brown, but this
was our only Jalen hurts and AJ Brown stack the way it fell to.
So that's just super fun to be able to have that up there.
Yes, you're definitely thing was that it's the only team in the
main event with digs T Higgins on AJ Brown.
Which is, oh yeah. We love these because it was
damn correlation tune. This was after Thursday night so
we took digs pretty high. We also ended up taking Braun
higher than he was typically going.
There were some digs Brown teams from teams that were drafting
digs late first and then getting Brown like third early on, we
get brown early, you know mid-second.
But most of the time he was a 23 guy and things has a 12 guy and
then Higgins, obviously clear 23 guy basically throughout we end
up getting it you know, or mid third.
We gotta admit third there was not a lot of digs pushing all
are, all right. Waller is going to be kind of a
value there in the fourth guys. How are you going to spend your
share of them? Do we do intricate part of the
payout? Or is it just like a pizza party
type? A good pizza party.
Out of here. It's a little bit more this
year, kind of, spotlighting, the team.
So, obviously super stoked to get Draco.
And Sam are other co-managers if you guys have interest and pop
it on. We kind of want to roll through
and highlight some of these teams throughout the year and
you guys definitely need to be watching stat.
Chasing, I personally recommend the YouTube version because you
get all the sweet charts there but we do also post it in audio
form and if you do want to watch it live, they are a recording
that live and streaming it just for YouTube members.
So we turn that to members only you guys can hang out in the
chat with them. They had a good crew going last
night. I think it's going to be, you
know, Tuesday nights around seven.
So if you guys want to be YouTube members, get access to
the Discord, get access to those live streams.
All that good Early Access. I'll plug the audio version as
well. As you guys are doing a really
good job of just like having a conversation about this stuff.
So like I think the show so good because Samuel set up the charts
kind of go through some like the key Names.
And then you guys just start having a conversation about
this, you know, about rolls about, you know, how you guys
think things are going to play out, how you would be doing
things in a teepee. I'm not even doing any of these
best flowers directions right now, but I feel like talking
through it from an ATP perspective is such a just a
market-based approach. This like kind of just fits with
the way I think through things. So that's been like really
interesting to just sort of like help ground some of these
findings and kind of like a market.
But yeah, I think it's It's very it's very conversational and
easy to absorb, even in the audio version, it's funny.
You say that too because I found myself when I'm like, answering
questions on SiriusXM where I'm constantly saying, you know, if
we redrafted today or, you know, framing it within a market
standpoint because that's like the only way.
I really know how to think about this stuff.
One that came up. I was talking.
That's the best way to do it. Where do you guys think?
And I know ETR even just pushed out there, like, rest of season
rankings or did an update. Where do you guys think I'm on?
Rusty, Brown should go in a draft and you guys can tell me
where he's going and Resurrection, but I'm curious
what you think is as efficient right now.
I think it should be early second round efficient.
Yeah, I think he is. Yeah, I think he's, well, I
don't want to spoil for other people who are Thoughts with the
real ATP is, but I mean, he has what a 30 plus percent Target
share in 10 straight weeks or something and saying like that.
Like, we don't, I mean, the the target competition argument
that's out the window now, like he has other good.
Wide receivers on the field and he's still learning that.
Share the lions are also passing their pass rate over expected as
one of the highest was well right now and their defense
still sucks. Or like, how is this?
How is this stopping? I don't really see it.
Like, I think, I think one to turn early second, this is where
he should be going. I've got asked that question on
a pod today, actually, how high would rank him and I was going
like I feel like he's a really hard guy to Value, but I love
that because I was going to say top 18, myself.
But you have I think I called him virtually untreatable and
signals this week because I think there's the potential for
him to literally finish the top three receiver.
At this point, like we've already seen enough that, if
like, he can keep this up, there's like a Cooper cup season
in him. Basically not maybe to the same
degree but Target learning wise and production-wise fairly
close. So there's this really high
ceiling. There's also a pent-up potential
for a floor. He's a slot receiver.
Like if it falls back the efficiency falls back it's kind
of hard to value in but I was going through the receivers when
I got asked this in like I wouldn't have it with the top
three gigs and Adams, I think you can already make a case that
you should have him in that group and then you start going
ball beyond that and you're going okay, AJ Brown, I prefer
AJ Brown of T, Higgins, you have Depot, you have both the
Dolphins receivers Tyree can waddle.
I think I'm taking both of them or home too, but I don't know if
I'm taking T actually or D, but like, we're kind of in this
range were, like, I might take common Robert to your Diva.
I think I take them over both those guys.
I think I would too. It's Like, that's where he's
like, I think you make a case, you should even be up with digs
and Adams, like it's that's where I drew the line.
I said I'm so take an atom's ahead of, for sure.
Yeah. Amy Adams Adams, you know, and
there's only, and so, as far as what's am saying early second,
there's only a few running backs.
As we got Taylor McCaffrey Eckler Berkeley and I don't even
know if Heckler but Berkeley Swift, but there's not a lot
more you have, you know, Kelsey and Andrews, I think, for sure,
but like, that's it. Who will see you taking over.
Any right now. He's gone just behind the bow at
18. Okay, probably should be.
Yeah, that's fair though. And yeah, that seems that seems
fair. Once you list out the names of
maybe would be something in that range, but yeah, that's how I
love those dried and gets, there's a narrative here, Jason
pointing out that. Yeah, you know, he's got five
games left against wide receivers, they were drafted
ahead of them. You see the guy?
Yeah, me quote. Yeah, I did, Liam silent the
ship chasing Discord. What was it?
We pull it up here but you could, you could start setting
it up. You know, how he has like his,
you know, he recounts, everyone who was drafted ahead of him but
yeah, he took it a step further with with Washington here I have
Lakey to it in the newsletter tomorrow's.
Okay, let me I pulled it up here.
One second, this quote is just like batshit crazy.
Go for read it, pat. Oh no, I have a different.
Okay, all right. He goes the draft.
It is what it is. Even the Commander's they got a
guy before me over there. I believe his name is Diane me
Brown. I don't know how many caches he
had. You guys can probably tell me
that or how many yards he had. I don't forget things like that.
I see him across the sidelines from where I'm standing during
the game and I'm going to give every team.
Hell you were honestly watching Diane he goes reporter.
I didn't see him in the game much guys.
One said, is that he must have a list of every receiver.
Drafted a yeah, like, okay, what is this helping?
Can we talk about how healthy this is?
I don't like, you don't need him to be fully healthy in order to
have super cup season bed, Steve Buscemi from Billy Madison right
now. Grizzlies, got a lipstick, dude.
Dude, I like how he was almost setting the reporter up for this
punch line, or it's like you were honestly watching him.
I didn't see him in the game but all right dudes.
Well it was super good catching up with you guys.
I'm super excited to track the stat chasing team throughout the
year. Like we said, you guys need to
be checking them out. Pat Grech, anything else on your
guys's radar before we get out of here.
Oh plug been stealing signals which if you don't know 2K can
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Cool. And also congrats to graduate on
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Awesome. Awesome Milestone there, been
thanks. That was cool.
Yeah, I mean, not something I expect, I remember when I
started that, my goal was like to get 400 or 500 paid
subscribers. I was like my main goal, so,
very cool, very cool. To get the, the support on that
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I will be back on my channel tomorrow with LOLs, with Brian
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