Ladies and gentlemen, tonight is a big night.
Our precious baby boy, Ronald Jones has a new home.
Pat. Do you remember where you were
when Ronald Jones signed with the Dallas Cowboys?
Yeah, I do and it's tough. When you write when you're in
the content business, you write an article about Tony Pollard
and then two days later, the whole thing is irrelevant.
You know, you guys aren't draftable.
No, I mean, if you don't have any road, Joe content up on
legendary upside, it actually that.
No, let's do this right away. Pat, because you've been pushing
this bullshit, CH thing on ATP, chasing CH or Ronald Jones as As
your last round pick. I mean, Rob, Jones now.
Okay. Thank you.
I was about to boot you from the show.
If you said, come on Dallas, Cowboy, they're gonna be
running. Their offense is boring and old
school as possible. I mean, you get Ronald Jones is
slamming it between the tackles when they should be passing,
it's gonna be great. I mean, if he's at like we were
hoping for it with the cheese last year.
Didn't ever happen. But he's like might actually get
the Z grow from last year. They didn't want to give Paul.
Remember that? That heart.
It's tweet of the length of the To touch of the touchdowns.
And like all of Ziggy I wanted to yards at years later, third
shortest was like, 10 yards. He didn't get anything inside 10
and Rob Jones might actually get all these short touch accounts
that and the Cowboys had to be one of the only teams in the
entire league that carried only two running backs on game days
for most days. Like it was always just Zeke
Pollard. Nothing else to I mean it Rojo's
just the do Zeke, I mean you're really be cooking there we fuck
mean it's kind of crazy. I feel under exposed them to the
US. For the first time ever.
I mean, I just love that there has to be some people that are
like are we really doing Rob Jones again?
Like this is this, he's real people.
Yeah again. And like, yeah, I'm in again,
personally all. Yeah, the it was funny because I
would I, you know, I've had fired because I decided I wanted
to Max the big board on Underdog and I was way behind Pace Time
in an ungodly amount of slow drafts and They had the 20th
pick and I'm doing the like, you know, scroll down kind of thing
with my last pick and I'm just scrolled.
It's go like oh there's Ronald Jones click.
My he's still pretty varied in the applet right now.
I need to start drafting them and you start rubbing its last
round in half PBR, 20 rounds. To, I mean, we're this, you have
to believe he sucks which it some people do, and that many
people do, many, many people, really many, many people go.
So some of them work in the Tampa Bay and Kansas City
organizations. Unfortunately, what's gonna
happen? They're gonna probably draft
somebody to like, to be a contract details on that.
I didn't see it if we did, how - yeah.
Not going to be big and then they're going to probably draft
like a potential big back as well.
And then Road was going to be in competition with like the new
Isaiah Pacheco like day. Three big back.
Yeah, probably lose. Again, that there's a million.
There's like a million. I'd like better prospects than
Isaiah Pacheco in this running like classes.
Well like there's so many absences younger than most
legendary Row, Joe. Pat that actually would have
been a much better name for you. It would have been better.
Yeah, so we have about a daily Row, Joe daily wrote, Jose that
brand You know, well, I'll spin something up under the legendary
upside umbrella. We got about a month until the
the Cowboys draft that running back that we can Hammer as much
Rojo's possible and pretend like, it's not just chasing bad
but throwing good money after bad.
Well, no, then the narrative just says switches and then it
just Ronald Jones. One injury away from being put
away. Yeah, I can't, I can't believe
we're here again. If there's One thing you can't
accuse ship chasing of doing. It's not playing the hits.
You know, we will, we will always play.
Play the hits around here unless it's Sky more, in which case I
begrudgingly? No, I mean, I'm still drafting
Sky more. Yeah, he's a good guy.
He's gone. Dude, 22 is gone.
Yeah, I mean, he cool. Just signed with the Jets.
Where were you guys at on that? That Juju in Jacoby swap that
ended up being like very similar numbers wise.
I mean it's hilarious. They're the Patriots.
I mean it wasn't that similar, right?
Because it wasn't a bunch of incentives for Juju that I'll
never hit. So I mean obviously you want the
Jacobi side of that? I think?
Yeah, my question is, do you think it's possible if he
doesn't throw that lateral against the Raiders?
If you think he wants that? Yes, you think he was in that
big of a doghouse from that point?
I hadn't. Yeah, that's a pretty boneheaded
play and I think Bella, Check cares.
A lot about football IQ and I think that tips the scales for
him in the situation, honestly, he was the number-one receiver.
You didn't sign that big a deal with the Raiders.
So, yeah, I heard him. I love how like these players I
don't even think that's that absurd of a take, but it's crazy
that these players in the New England organization can't make
like one mistake without being banished to the shadow realm.
And then Bill Belichick can just make the most egregious.
Drafting mistakes. That set their organization back
years, make the most egregious, overspends in free agency.
There's no Consequences for Bill fucking I'm glad I'm glad you
mentioned the overspends because the drafting we've like kind of
realized, but they're free agency moves over the last
couple years have been horrendous horrendous.
I'll see ya Galore, they Kendrick born to then they
decided they're never going to use.
Yeah, I kept chasing Johnny for the same reason.
If you're gonna pay, John knew that contract at some point.
Okay, now, Joshua DL is gone. Okay?
At some point, they're going to use Johnny.
That's, that was my thing. Last offseason.
They never used it and they never had a plan for John.
I know, why did they sign him again?
But no sonny. Yeah.
And now they got gets sick. He gets sick.
He's gonna run like 40% of the routes.
Going to use the hell knows. Yeah.
That they were like the Bears heading into this year that.
What? Two years ago into free agency,
right? Where they just had all that
money and they just backed up the Brinks truck for what was
it? Jaanu Hunter Henry and Kendrick
born. And they're like, well, we have
this money. I guess we have to spend it.
Yeah. Are you supposed to sign guys?
Like the way they were doing it? I thought they were like, trying
to sign guys to them. They Get signed later and then
they get a compact or something like that.
The way that they do, the top pick thing, you have to have.
So it's a four-year rolling. First of all, Rolling Cash spend
or whatever. And so every fourth year they
meet, they usually need to spend.
But then like the other three years they let free agents walk
and they get on the plus side of the compact formula and they
rack up a lot of complex for those three years.
And then they once every four years spent a ton of money,
what? And then they don't get any comp
picks that year because it's all plus - guys no guys out size of
contract, so that I do think there's like a method to the
madness with the way that they have done things, it's just that
that offseason. There weren't really that great
of free agents or they couldn't attract them.
So, they're given a ton of money to guys that they like, like,
who are you? Paying can't report you page on
this myth. I think you could have used him.
He's probably good football player for then you don't use
him, like, what are you doing? I mean, that was just their
year. They had to spend, and they
weren't going to be in it on the compact formula so they were
just throwing money out there for what I mean.
It's more of a multi-year game plan but it It work.
You can't even go to. Like I keep seeing the chase
Claypool for a to brought up this offseason as a benchmark,
is not brought up in regards to that you larger.
More trade like would you rather have the Elijah more trade or
pay a the 34th overall pick straight up for Claypool and
it's like a obviously rather to the pick Swap and get Elijah
more. Like that's a better deal.
It feels like yeah, people are using that as a negative Mohamed
Sanu for a, to was the first Chase Claypool.
Right like that, right? Yeah.
That's what the chat is all remembering.
Now, we all Electively forgot how egregious that one was.
That's just so bad. What do you think the odds are?
So the Pats have the 14th overall pick.
This organization doesn't strike me as someone who's taking like
jsn, 14th overall. And then, their next pick is
until 46th overall, they're probably going to miss
obviously, like the top, this should take Jason, they should
be kind of amazing for them. Well, that was gonna be my
question. I was like, what are the odds
that they actually pull the trigger on a wide receiver, with
their first two picks? How do you think Jason?
It's what Juju Pat. I don't you just sit his ass
down. Yeah, well they just paid him to
be what Jay said, they just paid John.
And to me we just kind of time talking about how they're
willing, big eyes and nothing happens.
I think Juju would you do would get toasted by Jason?
Yeah I agree what happened but I don't think they'll draft him.
So you were maybe they wouldn't. I thought you were thinking of
some way they can co-exist but I see.
No, I just think Juju would not be.
I mean he would play but I think my thing with jsn is I don't
think he's like an Unrwa. I think he's going to be able to
play enough on the outside to where he's never leaving the
field. Yeah, you know are very quickly
is going to get to that in his rookie year.
So that's my view anyway and so I think Juju would play but he
wouldn't see, you know, nearly as many snaps as he would have
because jsn will probably be in the slot and three wide
receivers slut three wide receiver sets.
Its kind of like Jacoby, Jacoby can play on the outside a bit as
well. But what we try to say Pat is,
like, Juju would be playing the same role he did in New England
opposite. Jsn that he Did opposite of sky
in Kansas City. There's a take a while.
He'd be the sky. Is what I'm saying?
You'd use the sky. In this case.
Heat your question about. They're taking a receiver in the
first couple pics. If yeah the move that they got
to make if they're going to make one is new, right?
Like that's the one that I've seen float around a little bit
if they can land the trade for Hopkins.
I mean, yeah, if they can get that for a fifth, like whole, I
mean, Yeah. So you knew and nuke for a
second and a fifth feels, pretty good.
Like, think about this though, because I was talking with my
mother-in-law about this big Patriots fan that it doesn't
seem to make a ton of sense, like, say they don't go the jsn
route or drafting a wide young wide receiver and then you trade
the fifth for nuke like new can Juju that feels like moves you
do when you're like one or two wide receivers away from being a
contender like this is still a rebuilding team with Mac Jones.
Has multiple years away from really contending?
Like, what are these guys doing for this team?
Other than, like, just booing them in the short-term?
Yeah, I think the Chiefs should trade for nuke of the prices of
fifth. I mean, come on right.
Yeah, right, that's fair. I think the Patriots are
thinking with, like a trade, like, for new girl, for those
things and you're right, they're probably not going to contend
but they, they need to get in this rookie QB.
Contracting need to get Mac Jones, playing at a higher
level. They need to get him more
weapons, if they can potentially get their passage into an
elevated level. I mean, I think that's why they
invest as type 1 Thornton last year.
That's why they've invested his money in the passing game, but
like, They don't have good players and maybe Mike Jones,
lot of good player either. It's just not not Jose is okay,
I think. I mean, yeah, he looks pretty
good as a rookie and then you know he was popping in the
numbers and stuff looking like, okay this you know, he's never
gonna be like a super high ceiling guy but they didn't have
an offensive coordinator last year.
They had mapped Patricia. I mean, I think any other coach
would have been fired like and I'm talking about Bill
Belichick. You had mapped Patricia's your
offensive coordinator a second-year quarterback.
This is like malpractice. This is completely malpractice.
Yeah. But now you know now we actually
as an offensive coordinator you're right.
They need any other court, you know could be fired, but when
you win six, Super Bowls, or whatever it is like, you cannot
go on for like 90 better. Yeah, I'm not calling for him to
be fired, but I'm just saying it was the type of move that gets
sure any other code. Oh yeah, it was.
I mean, it was so great. It was so, obviously,
ridiculous. I mean, just bring them.
Well, the other thing too, like, if you're looking around, I
mean, I think you can make the argument that they have the
toughest division in football if Jets, get Rogers.
You know, the Jets with Rogers that defense, the Dolphins are
going to be jacked up again next year provided to a stays healthy
and then obviously the bills. I mean that is a really tough
division to get out. I agree.
I think, I mean, it seems tougher than the the AFC West.
Even yeah, rates up. If see West now, I think MC
wasn't got flipped quick. Yeah.
I mean yeah Chargers maybe are going to be able to bounce back
the Broncos Peyton looks like he's doing the thing that I was
talking about a few weeks back. I don't know if I'm on the show
or just on Twitter but like Like you have to make a decision and
Russell Wilson's contract next year because then another 25
million. Whatever is guaranteed.
It feels like they're punting 2023 and they're going to cut
him so they're not on the hook for 20-25.
That's really me to the really going to have to punt 2024 as
well, because they're going to have so much dead money, but
they'll be able to start to build stuff with rookie
contracts in 2024, but it feels like, you know, Russell
Wilson's, not their long-term answer.
They're not going to be competitive this year, and the
Raiders are, not looking super competitive this year, doesn't
it feel like they, like, Broad and Russell Wilson.
They're like, he's gonna be the guy and then they were like to
Peyton. It's like, no, no, you're our
guy. What do you want to do?
And it feels like he's like I wanna cut rust up to the year.
Yeah, that's what I want to do. I don't know if you guys read
Matthews like rumors piece from the combine, but, yeah, it was
worse, was that Sean? Payton was like, he's on a
one-year rental, basically, to prove it or lose it kind of set
up there so it doesn't, it doesn't seem like he's their
guy. Yeah, the the 2025 money gets
guarantee. He'd like, first five days of
the 2024 League year. They're already screwed through
2024 with this contract but there's so much more money in
2025 to gets guaranteed at the end of this year that they got
to make a decision on before next year or All-Star three more
years into what Russ? Right.
Like so like they I think after this year, you actually want to
be out on him. So you're not so three years
from now, you can have a different quarterback basically
after two more seasons. And if you caught him obviously
you'll have a new quarterback next year but you'll have all
this dead money still there. The thing that I was talking
about with his contract was that they would probably want to look
at dealing some of these guys that are still on, rookie feels
like Jerry, Judy or dealing Sutton.
If they can get anything for him and they we've heard rumors with
both those guys. Yeah.
Start dealing those receivers like try to get your draft
Capital back that you gave up for Russell.
You can bring in a rookie in 2024, maybe maybe build a draft
of rookie quarterback. If you can get a one out of
Judy, you know. Who do you guys think?
Is more likely to bounce? Back to the best version of
their old selves? This year DeShawn?
Watson or Russell Wilson. DeShaun Watson.
I think is two to three times more likely.
Yeah. Okay, that's a lot.
But I think Watson is the answer to the question to go on.
This is way older Russ's way, way.
Older, I also think that as far as the Cleveland Browns go,
every single person who works in that organization is the, their
job is depending on Watson being good this year.
They gave him a massive guaranteed contract.
Everyone's getting fired if he doesn't, if he doesn't play
better than last year. So, you know, you see it,
they're bringing in Elijah more. Like they're they're going to
ensure that he plays better than last year.
Whereas like I'm not sure that Peyton.
I think obviously doesn't want the team to be an embarrassment
or anything. But I don't know how committed
he is to Russell Wilson. Yeah, I think, I think that's
fair but especially like, if the team, if you have rumors that
Sean Payton is saying, Russell Wilson's, not our guy in there.
Aggressively shopping, the weapons that That Russell Wilson
would certainly need to have any kind of success this season.
It sounds like they might just fully pumped this year then all
of a sudden what if they just put Javonte Williams on ice like
if he's not completely 100% why Rush him back either?
It's like a sure the module a perine Bell cow year with
Russell. Floundering tanking shipping
off, these pics it could be a total retool Year.
Yes. Yonce could have the cam Akers
year where it's like kind of slow early on without the
off-field stuff but like kind of slow usage, not necessarily
Looking great. And then also not pushing him.
And then maybe like towards the end of the year, we see a little
bit and we get excited for 2024. I'm a little worried about that
with Javonte and I'm a huge fan of his but there, I don't think
they going to be competitive enough to really want to push
him in 2023. Yeah, and then you just look at
the simple fact that Watson turns 28 in September, Russ
turns 35, in November. So, you know, even if you had
organizations that were equally committed to these guys, And you
have Watson took off a year of football.
And, you know, he's coming back with a new team, doesn't look
very good. Ross has had a couple bad years
in a row now. So, I just think I kind of Stand
By the two to three times more likely.
Take speaking of Cleveland, obviously, the big news today,
was the Browns swapping a pic with the Jets.
So the, I believe the Jets now have back-to-back.
Round picks. I think some people said it was
like the equivalent of a fifth-round pick just in a
vacuum for the trade and Elijah more now is headed to Cleveland.
Tyler wants to know what was your knee-jerk reaction to this
move Gretch? I mean, I don't really have a
good knee-jerk one eye, it's going to be like very cost, you
know, conscious for me I'm willing to be back in on him.
He's a really weird case where his rookie year.
He was like, 24 percent Target Sprout.
Run really good yards per outrun, strong player, and then
Get get started on Cut, literally cut in half in a
second season, right? Runs.
It runs more routes 200 more routes in his second year yards
for outrun completely traitor, craters.
You have to be worried about that.
Obviously though the Jets like passing game wasn't great.
What does he is a player? I don't know if we really know.
I think you showed enough as a rookie that we and he has a
really good Prospect profile that if you're going like longer
timeline, which I'm I was advocating for, you can kind of
throw out 2022 and be like, yeah, I still want to be in on
him as a potentially good NFL player.
ERM. But we also have the concerns
about DeShaun Watson. You just mentioned.
I don't know how well he fits the best receivers that ever
played with Watson were typically outside guys, bigger
body new will Fuller speed guy. Downfield, not really slot guys
like Kiki QT have like a couple moments but if Watson's playing
at a really high level and a lot of remorse good he's going to
put up numbers but that you can also just be like he's not the
right fit for for Watson, right? Like he's not the best receiver
even though he's a good slot guy because Watson you know more
mobile mobile guys. Not The Sara Lee.
I was looking for the shorter, a DOT options.
More of a I mean he's way more of a downfield guy, extend the
play, hit it downfield. All sort of like Ross in that
regard. So anyway, I mean I will take
the shots if the cost allows me to with Elijah.
I've been drafting son. I don't know where he settled,
and he just got traded today. So I don't know if you guys even
know where he's gonna settle, but Yeah, I'm not going to be
like going crazy for exposure. There's a lot of moving Parts
there. It could work out, it could,
there's a lot of ways, it could not work out.
I might take or I guess not my take.
But what I think the market is going to do is actually maybe
ding him a bit because I assumed his ATP was baking in Rogers.
And there are a lot of people, they were kind of Rogers and
Elijah more, we're going in the same round of drafts and I think
people were kind of completing their double Stacks with Garrett
Wilson with Elijah more. And so I kind of think he
should, or will slide I'd a little bit and Corey Davis
actually gets pushed up a little bit from Total.
Obscurity would be how I think it plays out in the ADP
landscape. I think Dave is gonna get cut,
though. You do.
Yeah, post Michael Harmon signing.
Post Allen's. Oh my God.
I guess the Michael part. Definitely fact and Lazard.
Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true receivers there now.
Yeah, but that's an interesting take because I would I felt like
more has been too expensive. All offseason is ATP right now
is 115. I've not really taken him
because everything been saying about just how it kind of, I
don't, you know, we've got two years on And one of them was a
disaster and also like fell out with his coaches and you know,
seemed like maybe he wasn't going to be even playing.
They kind of came back but I don't know.
This is a very very worrying second year and to take that
with like a tenth round pick for me was a bit pricey even with
the Rogers addition because the Rogers Edition is like good for
Garrett Wilson. I think no questions but he's
not good for her. Larger more, you know, was it
would have been good for a larger more because he made I
mean it clearly wasn't because they traded him, they got Allen
Lazard to come in you know. So I yeah I like yeah that point
I mean I think again I'm not drafting a ton so I don't know
opportunity cost really well but I think 10th round pick
immediately. I'm like yeah that's maybe a
maybe like to get him in the 11th of the 12th.
If it got to a point where I was in a build where I needed
another you know, upside receiver.
I You think this is a wide errorbar player where it's like,
yeah, this will inject some upsetting to my, in my, my build
and it would be worth paying attention to price for that
regard. It's not a Smash in every, every
draft for me at that price and I will say like half around behind
dpj, that's what I was just going to say that, that is like
a total wide receiver Dead Zone in that range.
It's like Darnell Mooney dpj. I'm looking at the ATP now.
KJ Osborne Elijah more. I kind of like the tear after it
better because you can get jail and highlight.
Tyler boy, then you get down to one.
Dale Robinson Romeo Dobbs Alec Pierce at least some like
potential second year. Breakout guys feel like he's
like, yeah. When there s your breakout goes
and when you yeah I was just naming guys who are actually
candidates to be second year for hahaha.
Wow, you have turned so hard. I guess you guys the sickest
fucking man, we've ever heard from a wide receiver?
Well, I'm around here, the grounds of the limit here so I
can see what Does the Miko Hardman do anything for you
guys? Is that back in a book?
Randall Cobb in the slot. They I think they traded Elijah
board. I make room for it'll come to
be, I probably did. Yeah, he doesn't really know.
He had everything you could have like a, you know, an mvs /, not
nearly what people, you know, know of Christian Watson but
like that type of rotational deep threat.
Roll with Rogers, could be valuable, you know, you
basically have Lazard in the Lazard roll.
Garrett, Wilson is Davante, Adams, and maybe me Cole Harmons
running, these mvs type routes, and you saw friend.
I'm fine. Thank you.
Yeah. For best ball.
Like late-round. Maybe he hits on a few deep
touchdowns he's got speak. Yeah.
Hardman's 2003. Okay, that that is enough.
I'm in. I'm in 2003.
The I mean Harmon to I guess you can, you can say he's getting,
you know, a downgrade at quarterback and anytime you
leave Mahomes, you are, but maybe a little bit of a volume
uptick. And just the way he's used to
like again. Hashtag better and best ball.
I don't know. I don't mind him where he was
going and he's been extremely cheap, all all offseason with
the uncertainty about his landing spot.
Yeah. And the last Put years that
she's been using them a lot more around the line of scrimmage a
lot more jet motion lot lower a DOT than his first couple of
years. But early on in his career when
he was at the high a talk he was really efficient yards for
Target like was crazy. The first couple years is why we
were all in on, you know, Hardman at various points as a
guy, if his volume could increase, like he looks like a
really efficient player with my homes and then his role sort of
changed. But I mean, I think, if Rogers
does wind up with the Jets, like we can talk about the Salah, you
know, The floor Shanahan connections and the way their
offense might run I think it's more going to be that Rogers
being a very strong personality. We've heard all the stuff about
the way that he is in meeting rooms and tells the receivers
what to do and everything that it's more going to be like the
Rogers offense, he's going to be able to dictate to a certain
degree. We've seen some veterans, be
able to do that, come in Tom. Brady, kind of did that with the
box right came in and was his offense and I think they're
going to let Rogers do what he wants to do.
So that's hackett's whole deal, right?
I mean, yeah. It seems like he does not seem
For all of its flaws, he does not seem like a hard-ass, you
know, he's not gonna let rods my show, right?
So if Rogers wants to take those shots, which a lot of them are
like dialed up shots. Like, I mean, go back to the
very first drop that Chris Watson had first play of the
season. It's like a lot times.
They do is the first play the game or in a, after a turnover
or, you know, first play the second half or like these shot
play moments, you know, Rogers. I think, still gonna want those
kinds of things. He loves to sell the play action
and take those bombs. If it's hard, man on the other
end running those, and he has done, It for a few years we
could actually see some long hard but touchdowns that's the
whole point website, which would be like.
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Yeah. All right, so 1108 definitely
ends up being a sweet spot for these wide receivers.
Generally kind of have your pick of AJ, brown, or Devante dig,
sometimes slides to 18, you guys have any liens.
I like injured Brown. I don't pretend probably really
leaning. Are we gonna play the game?
Where you guys asked me if I liked AJ Brown exam?
All right, Simpson. What's it going to be?
All right. He goes JT.
So, Kelsey normally doesn't fall this far, but I'm still
definitely Pro AJ Brown. If you guys want to I'm done
with you either. I'm done with you there.
I guess how Avalanche, how Avalanche do you think it gets?
I would say, medium to light Avalanche, my only thing.
Like let's do AJ Brown. I've been the way I've been kind
of thinking about this and I have a decent.
I don't know, I would say I'm slightly.
Slightly underweight, Kelsey in the Big Board my thought is I'm
going to load up on him way more in the 18 round contest.
I've just really been in that's enjoying using one of my luxury
picks in the 20 rounds to get the third tied in builds and the
three. The Late Three tied in bills are
just so easy and nice and you can get all kinds of upside with
the rookies in the second year, tight ends that I've been kind
of consciously passing, Kelsey just right now.
Yeah, I haven't dropped a ton of Kelsey either at the other thing
in addition to that, which I agree with is that you can get
Kyle pits in the six. You can get Dallas Carter in the
six. Yeah, there's you can get this
fire moved in like the dying 10. You can get dulcich pretty late
1011 Counterpoint is he scored 90 more points than any other
Titan have PPR less. Yeah.
Well yeah, if he gives you the season last year we're all right
there out. More.
And that's why I like my take on it is I'm not even doing the
like oh I'm worried about his age getting up there.
Yeah like my take is is completely just thinking about
my exposure to him, over the course of this entire offseason
like if we're on the clock and the main event draft, I will be
happily ready to smash the button.
I Travis Kelce, it's just thinking I think other spots
I'll be able to load up more than with this.
It's never going to be cheap. You're right I mean you got to
kind of pick your spots it unless you want to be a.
I am concerned about the age at a certain point.
He will fall off but If he doesn't fall off, then he's
basically a very good easy pick in the back half of the first
round, or even in the middle or front half of the first round,
frankly, right? Like it's the only concern is a.
Does he suddenly have like lingering injury issues ETC?
Alright so this is a fun spot. It's another classic ship
chasing draft where Austin hecklers available to us in the
second round. I think last time we took
Crystal lava here. We could double up on premium
eagles, which I don't necessarily love doing giving
birth. We're going to get A shutout we
could say, Kurds, I don't mind the Devante Smith pick.
That would be probably my, we won't get her or lava or hurts.
I'm just going to put hurts in. I don't, I don't know if I love
do it. We're not going to get hurts.
Even if we take Devon to Smith, no, I know.
But AJ, if you think about it from like the perspective of,
okay, it's it's week, 17 and you've gotten this team through,
and you have AJ Brown Devante, Smith and hurts goes off.
Okay, all I need to do is find a quarterback who scores, you
know, 25 points. And I'm I'm there because I have
the two, guys, you through everything to it's like the DFS
lineups. When you double stack of passing
game, but don't play the queue because you just yeah.
I mean yeah, that like second round is so expensive and you
can find I think with 20 round draft it's gonna be hard but you
have a chance to find those 25 points of quarterback.
If I have two awesome scores of receiver to start my draft.
I mean, I'm feeling amazing. Yeah, yeah.
Not in, not that I want to use this as the because I do think
it becomes like a crutch of being like, well someone already
got this one, but I have now seen multiple screen shots today
of people who have now gotten Jalen hurts in the third round.
I'm not the like, and I think some people have gotten the AJ
Brown, Devon to Smith and Jalen hurt.
So and I know I pointed this out on Twitter that this same
Dynamic is happening with the Jamar, Chase and T Higgins
stuff. Where, for a while, Joe Burrows
ATP was just like mid third and one of the Chaser Higgins.
Rafters Was always stacking it up with burrow in the third and
now, they're showing more restraint and I've been getting
burrow in the fourth. I got him in the fifth of one
draft and I think we're starting to see it a little bit with all
these quarterbacks of just like a little bit more patience.
Right now from drafters, it's gonna happen throughout the
offseason, that's always high early.
And this unit everyone was excited about taking
quarterbacks higher just because they were, you know, they were
higher scoring this year. But Yeah, it's got a slide back.
We do have NFL and political Insider crack rock in the at
tonight. You guys want to talk about it
heater, it's got just breaking news leather around.
The NFL is citing crack rock and it's news reports.
Now that Cliff is so good. Not a bit.
I missed that that happened that happened.
That's great. Yeah.
Happened around the NFL was literally like crack rock, says,
Aaron Rodgers is going to the to the Jets and they're kind of
Laughing, and then they're like, but I think, I think he's right.
And I think it's happening. So I probably normally take
Jacobs a reminder in this spot. What do you guys want to do?
We could take Hopkins and just hope he goes to the Chiefs or
something, need that receipt, think Hopkins is so overpriced
right now Ridley. I don't know.
I'm fine with how badly. I'm good with the prime Andre or
Jacobs if you go if you want to do that.
Yeah, you know running back if you want.
All right let's let's see what comes back to us wide receiver
wise because I don't know how you guys feel.
Andre is a good pick their duties.
Good Damien Harris. He's gone.
Like, don't use going back to the DeAndre thing like DeAndre
goes to the Patriots. I mean he's clearly overpriced
here. Right.
There's only like two spots. He can go where he could
potentially pay off this tag. Yo, why is he gonna go to the
Patriots? Why would he be down with that?
Well, I don't think he has it. Does he ever the no-trade
Clause? I don't think so.
But it's like at this point, I don't know you.
Try. If you're a patriot, you
training for Hopkins, when, you know, it is want to be there.
I don't, I feel like all those old guys, like we've had, we've
obviously seen a lot of they had, Tom Brady and they were
better. But a lot of the guys like to go
to the Patriots as veterans, there's the whole Patriot Way
thing, I think you know some of the guys have been on the league
for a long time, take care of themselves to a good like
they're professionals. I think they I appreciate sort
of the Patriot like going and playing for Bill Belichick and
we're going to take things seriously.
I mean, none of those have panned out the Reggie, wanes.
And on Chad, Ochocinco, sign there, and none of those guys
actually ever did anything with the Patriots.
But I feel like, you know, from a, I'm gonna go win a Super Bowl
perspective. Yeah.
It's probably not as best landing spot but I feel like he
might actually want to go there like, like, appreciate it.
Yeah. I think he needs to rework his
contract, right? So in a sense that works as a
no-trade clause, because he can say, I'm Not gonna I won't
rework my contract for you. Yeah, this is your point nuking
and Bill O'Brien of a history and there's okay.
Yeah. Well, is it good history though?
The apis. I mean, yeah, but he'd even if
he goes to like the nut landing spot, I mean, I found it was
smashed in the fourth and he goes, the not land.
If he's the chief in the fourth, we're doing fucking cartwheels.
All right, does this mean I'm gonna have to finally did we
finally flooded DeAndre Hopkins? Five picks past ADP.
He's good. I mean, he's still good at
football. I'm down to take him for sure.
Came about, you gotta 198 yards for a run last year.
I mean came back and played a really high level.
There it goes, there it goes, you gotta you gotta pee.
Let's Louis take one it, I mean, I normally take mic'd up in this
pop and I'm open for takes on Judy Watson, any other wide
receivers you guys like Williams is my preference as well.
Yeah, it's do it. Me too.
What do you what do you guys do you think?
Because there was all the talk about Kenan and even Gerald
Everett or I guess I should say Gerald Everett and even Keenan
being potential, cut candidates, do you think they get the band
back together draft a wide receiver?
Like how do you think that shakes out?
That was half a draft, a wide receiver but I don't, I never
bought the Keenan is getting cut stuff because it was all this
like sense. The Meta never made any sense.
Yeah. Like they desperately need more
weapons. It was able to just people
going. This is their cap space and they
don't have a lot of other contracts at saving money, but
they just restructure a bunch of people and then they were like,
yeah, fine. Yeah, exactly.
I think the Eckler stuff is a little more concerning because
like yeah he's delivered a lot of value.
But it's It's like when the offense isn't working the way
they want it to is really when hecklers shining the most you
know. So I would be surprised if they
don't draft somebody but it's more because they had DeAndre
Carter playing extended stretches last year.
You know they're like dependent on Josh Palmer's like a major
contributor like you don't want that and I think the coordinator
change could work really favorably.
I mean II. Still think Alan Moore's a good
coordinator. Yeah I did say it would be a
boost to Justin Herbert and to the entire passage game.
And a lot of the stuff that we are excited about with the
charges last year, we make it like a you know a delayed you
know, post type, whatever dead cat bounce, whatever the heck
tournament is, but we're getting a little bit cheaper prices this
year because last year, the charges weren't what everybody
wanted them to be, but, like, they could very well be that
this year with Kellen Moore. Yep, totally.
I've actually done. So, I know it's a little
expensive with Herbert, but I've done this thing.
I've done what the team out of the two hole.
Just did you go? Kenan, you get Herbert.
I kind of like my Herbert in the fifth compared to, you know, the
the borough and the third, you know, He's not a totally mobile
quarterback, but that break out that we were hoping for last
year. Could come this year.
Yeah. All right.
We're almost on the clock again. I always liked this little
pocket here. Godwin, Jameson Williams,
anything else you guys would pound the table for I like both.
Those two Godwin is ridiculously cheesier.
You kidding me, he was coming off the ACL last year.
He wasn't good to start the year but he was pretty solid.
The rest of the way. He's like a really high-end
receiver in my mind. You know, I barely touched him
because I think the Buccaneers are going to be atrocious.
But do you think he gets traded because then then it would be a
smash, I mean, even if they're bad like he can still be like a
really high level. He's in the middle of his Prime
and he's a good player. I guess if the quarterback plays
to that bad I hear you. It could be really gross.
I think it's going to be horrific in Tampa Bay.
I don't know that he's there but I mean Baker Mayfield their plan
A While crack rock is screaming god went in the chat.
I assumed he had lunch with Chiefs owner, Clark hunt, and he
winked three times when crack rock said, God went so clearly
God would do the Chiefs, confirmed by crack rock, it has
gone to the point with crack rock that in all caps Godwin,
honestly makes me. Yeah, that's all cockneys to say
and then I'm like oh shit. God I need crack rock to
exploit, there's some crazy shit happened to make sure you know
what bank you're at. Like, First of all, a pretty
sure everybody knows what bank there.
I know what bank I'm at, would be a weird thing to not know,
second of all, what is the crazy shit happening?
What do I need to know more about other?
This is showing life that crack rock lives where he lives in a
world where he imagines that other people might not even know
what bank they have. Can we can we also remember the
skeletons in the closet as AJ points out last time.
Cracker. I've kind of the table for a
while. Yeah.
What's going on with God? What do I need to be taking more
Godwin? I feel like I do.
Crack. I hope you're the one that
breaks, the baker, Mayfield verse, Kyle Trask, whoever wins
that QB Camp battle. I expect to hear it from you
first, all right, we got some more wide receivers on the
board. If you guys are interested in a
baker Mayfield back to our double stack with Evans and
Godwin, that's available Marquis Brown, Brandon, I uke or we
could just get our stack with or double exactly goods and go with
ghadir. That's what I was going to
suggest. What do you think Rich Goddard
is? You're saying, God.
Yeah, if we want to get that double.
Yeah, when we weren't gonna get Davonte, and we went hurts.
I almost said that earlier and I guess probably good not to just
blurt that out four rounds ago. But you can make the devil
another, you know, another Direction with Goddard at a nice
price. Yeah, feels good.
Yeah, it is off the board Hawkinson kid'll.
Both went in the fifth like God, it's got to be the last.
I don't I haven't again. Don't I'm drafting don't know
all the tight ends. But at that's the last item six
there. He's kind of the last of the
tear, right? I think so, Ingram kind of gets
like bumped up as the next guy, I think engrams, one of the
easiest Fades and drafts. Interesting.
Yeah, with Ridley there. Yeah, he, I mean, an engram
wasn't great for most of the year.
He had a wasn't great. Late stretch, one, huge game
that really pumped everything up.
Yep. Super shallow.
A DOT still still getting that. Like so.
Okay, so we got a crazy low, a DOT.
You need a lot of targets targets.
Are the thing were most worried about with really coming?
I don't understand is ATP. So I mean, I do have a spike
weeks, but so who are you would you take no joke over him?
Would you take fire Booth over here?
Yeah. Okay.
So Your way lower than Market on him, I'm way lower than Market.
I don't I don't think I'll have any like, I might not have
Ingram and girls had know that it's gonna bury me.
I guess it could. But Anchorman one, two, three,
four, five, six games with 16 or fewer yards.
This year, he had 123, including a playoff game with 70 or more
yards. Only three games with seven-year
more. Obviously, 1 was the 162 11
catch two touchdown game, it was, you know, Monster game in
week, 14, and then it came back and have 113 yards in week 16.
And then the playoff game, he closed wrong, but a lot of
really low low weeks this year. He didn't hit 70 yards until
that week, 14 game all season. He looked wasn't good until that
point. What about someone asking about?
Yeah, I mean the other name and that goes in that range Waller,
I assume you have Waller ahead of ya, Ingram back on the clock,
DeAndre Swift with a 10 picks, slide post Montgomery news,
Javonte kicking around. Check.
Oh you do have those tight ends? I love Swift year.
Seven, eight. Yeah, I'm into it.
What? Yeah, let's let's have the Swift
conversation because, yeah, I do you guys agree that he should
drop. But then the question is, how
much to here? And then I'll draft him.
I would I would love to be drafting Swift in the seventh.
I think if he's in the sixth I mix them in occasionally but I
won't love it. And the seventh, I'm not going
to be like hammering every draft, but I'll definitely.
I'll be overweight. Wait in the eighth, I would be
hammering him. I mean, banged up every year of
his career, so far has Miss games every year of his career,
but he had another 900 yards, a touchdown season last year and
it season where Jamaal Williams had what like 20 rushing TDS.
He still had eight, he's get still use some in the red zone.
They that use him sort of, in a different role than the Jamaal
Williams role, which I mean Montgomery.
Yeah, maybe he's gonna be a 3 now back.
They gave him a big contract. I kind of feel like they're
still gonna do a one-two punch. A Swift still going to catch
plenty passes, 46 6248, that's something catches in each of
three years, never played more than 14 games.
It's a lot of catchers per game. Every year three point five.
Four point eight, three point four catches per game.
Like, he's gonna catch these, there's certainly use him right
there. A better offense or getting
better. The other thing, I think that
sort of sneaky good for Swift is that the lines are probably
locked out of quarterback, unless maybe they take Levis,
but they're not getting Anthony Richardson now.
And that like early in the offseason, it was like maybe
you, maybe the Anthony Richardson is a guy, they take a
with golf and it makes a lot of sense.
You know, you can kind of sit behind Gulf for most of the
year, but that's not happening now.
And having golf dumping off is so important for a receipt.
Yeah. All right.
Pick in the seventh round actually.
I mean I have as down here last year it wasn't good but it could
be a big year. I mean, Montgomery could get
hurt. This is like we're in handcuff
price range here at 79, right? Right.
And I was going to say Swift to me right now and that and
analogy isn't perfect. Feels a little bit like Mi
Sanders last year, right? Where it's this guy, we liked a
lot. He tells us not to draft him and
so he does slide but we probably over react too much.
Yeah. To that.
Uh, What do you guys want to do here?
This has turned into an avalanche e draft.
It's all I'm I think we have our three receivers.
It doesn't feel great, but I think we can survive it.
Like, I can't believe it's saying, I think I'd go Joe
Mixon. Oh, he's I have been taking
stabs on mix and in the 90s I'm open to other ideas as well,
Gretch. I probably wouldn't be mixed.
I probably Acres over mixing, but if you have one new
Excellence, look. I think we did Acres last time.
We can we can do make it talk. Talk about mixing pot because
There's all kind. I assume you're you're making
the play of he doesn't get suspended and he comes back to
the Bangles. Yeah.
And you're getting that at pick 89.
Exactly. And I think most importantly he
I don't think is done but he's he's not like the best back but
he showed enough last year where it's like I think he's fine like
I think he's kind of got enough in the tank where I do, maybe
it's like Zeke two years ago, you know?
It's not, I don't think it's, I don't think he's done yet.
I think like cook, Dalvin cook Alvin Kamara.
Those guys are like flashing signs.
That it might be kind of over. Mixing isn't really flashing
those signs. He's flashing the like, I'm
like, starting to lose work to my teammates.
Maybe I'm not the clear-cut lead back.
No questions asked guy anymore, but I still think he has enough
left in the tank where if you were to land somewhere else,
you're not totally dead. Once you get into the Eighth
round. So yeah, I think is rb3 there.
It's like not there's downside but it's not like crazy crazy
low down side, that was a good case.
And I to me that actually sounded even more like last
year's model Sanders or Josh Jacobs.
And like I mean, especially in basketball.
Like yeah, he's going to get work.
Even if he got cut, he's going to sign somewhere and get work.
Even if it's you know, Todd Gurley with the Falcons.
I don't think he's that done like to your point.
Yeah, Todd. Gurley went to the Falcons and
got work. Somebody's gonna pay him some
money and And let them, you know, get some touches and score
some touchdowns basically. Yeah.
And I think, like, I have to be, you know, Joe Mixon such a gross
click, but I do think you have to view it through the same lens
that I am kind of, you know, yoloing, you know, Javonte
Williams picks and I know it's different.
You know, coming back from that injury versus what Joe Mixon
has. But just that idea of in the
situations where those concerns evaporate, you're just getting
such a massive discount on what they can do for your team that
in a fucking Dollar contest that's so top-heavy.
Like you got to be taking stabs on those kind of profiles.
Yeah I think like if to Think Through like a really
disgusting. Third round pick is a good 8th
round pick. Yeah that's fair.
So we can continue to write. I've been taking charbonnet a
lot in this range. You know it's Renee I think this
might be the draft where I would take Elijah more click on what
receiver real quick. Is there are other it's not so
they're we're going to get a slightly better tear.
This was that pocket. I was talking about that.
I think better than this tier. Sure.
Look why don't we do charbonnet? And then we can start pounding
wide receivers. Yeah, we have to catch up a wide
receiver but I think I think we can do it.
We'll see. Yeah and I might guess scratch
unless we just you know, ruined it here.
I my guess is Elijah more would be available at 113 anyways, but
I like the way we played that with mixing because only two
wire three wide receivers, went the entire right?
Large? Half of the board because this
line. If more goes, I think that's a
fine pick here. The way that we're building,
we're going to take a lot of receiver Flyers now, Right.
And I think we know intelligently that way in the
thing is to we missed out on the tier break twice like for me
after Rashad Bateman goes like there's a huge tear gas.
That's your down to these two flowers Jacobi like that feels
they're like well we lost Brandin Cooks, right?
Brandon Cooks just was kind of like the guy passed that to.
Your, where'd he go? He really went at 77.
Yeah. Yeah, he used to go kind of
where we took charbonnet and thank you guy.
Something's something's a guy. I mean, even Michael Thomas,
like we know those guys can play.
Well, I've taken Thomas to because it's so this this tier
so thin. Yeah.
Suddenly, I think makes a lot of sense and best ball, still
Hiatus, especially if you got moved, I would be in, on him,
pretty much anywhere. He went as a guy who could at
least have some squash plays blush weeks.
Right? There goes a long way.
Um all right. I said, I'd fucking jinx it.
I do that anytime I say think a guy's gonna make it never makes
it back. Why do I do that?
The other option here to would be to take, I guess, Lance would
be the only quarterback that would make sense to take off
soon as that's, it was kind of poking out to me.
What's the latest we expected him to be starting Week?
1 D, should be, starting Week 1. Yeah, yeah.
I could definitely other receivers are we I mean, I think
we can wait it receiver a little bit, right?
We have to but we can't wait too much too many more times.
My next best receiver was, well down that list.
If we do Lance, I mean your we're now we're good at running
back. We're good at quarterback.
I mean, we can we can just piss the hell out of the back of
this, right? We have to get good at it.
If there are, there's some values, though, it receiver
late. This is good.
I mean, we haven't done a dress Nom, there's not time.
Yeah, there's not a ton And even some of the guys, I liked our
are going to be. We're going to have to take some
molds. We're gonna have to take some
boring old, I don't know who yet but I'm excited to look.
Will you go clicking hers on receiver and kind of control?
I want to own a start, getting some thoughts real quick for the
audio listeners, our team so far, we backed ourselves into a
wide receiver list corner. So we got Jalen hurts and Trey
Lance at quarterback or Mantra. DeAndre Swift, Joe, Mixon and
Zach Chardonnay at running back. AJ Brown Mike Williams, Chris
Godwin at Wide receiver. Dallas got her at tight end and
here you go. The scroll Gretch.
I do kind of agree with like what ball is life is saying in
the chat where he says, I don't think any of these wide
receivers on the board right now are that much better than 19th
round area Slaton ugly. So like if our thesis is this
tears, Superflat might as well Zig a little bit.
Yep. And you guys know, I've been
floating tree, Lance, but if you're going to take them, I
think it makes a ton of sense to take them with a guy like hurts.
Yeah, I'm excited. Just like we never talk about
these receivers so I'm excited to draft this true for debt,
were always drafting running backs and that's always.
So receiver heavy at this point that it's just it's fun to do.
Yeah. And I don't know, I always find
some wide receivers in this range.
Yeah. That I talked myself into, we
can definitely talk ourselves into some stuff.
Where you guys at on Lawndale with all the signings and stuff.
I still like him. I was in, don't talk about
Wanda, but he went right after you said that I was ready to
take him, he would have broken. When I said, my next best is way
down the list. He would have been the next
best. I thought he was great last
year. I mean, it's all just a doubt
tell. At this point, I would be Dobbs
or Pierce here. But if you guys want to pound
the table for O'Dell, I'll listen to you.
I'm Pierce. I think Gretch, I can get there.
I like what quarterback upgrade, and he's going to play a bunch
of snaps on the outside. Yeah, I think Hodgins is a fine
play there too. I think rondelle's a fine play
there and she needs a fine play fair.
Yeah. Well we're going to end up with
two of those. Anyways, I think Hodgins I do
worry about snaps there, you know?
Yeah, it was. I mean, he played well into the
playoff played well, but he's a former sixth-round pick who's on
a second team and wasn't part of their plan.
So I just get nervous. That's, I mean, that would have
bent. Super pattern matching, but it
would have been very similar to what we might have said about
like Allen Lazard after he got to the Packers and sort of got
the chance to play, but like he came with a coach that had
coached him in Buffalo he played.
Well, got his first opportunity and we like the profile that's
why I'm making a Lazard copy. I was getting over the good
producer in college and I feel like he's got a little bit more
of a moat than we think because of those factors that he was a
producer in college, he produced now in his limited opportunity,
the NFL level and the coach kind of brought him Um, a previous
stop likes him. I think I mean maybe he's not a
full-time player but I think he's going to run around.
He's gotta play. If I don't we get pulse since we
were debating those two Sure yeah jobs yeah yeah I'm talking
about Hodgins but you something. Oh do you who do you prefer
Hodgins to Dobbs? I guess I'm kind of worried
about that let's just take Dobbs because he's sucking a player
and I do like the player. Maybe I'm overreacting to get a
little burnt last year, but he wasn't very good and they're
going to lose Rogers and I I think they probably could still
add another receiver. Again, this year like Dobbs is
the late round pick that didn't produce.
Now, write the day, three concerned.
The Pat just said he doesn't have the NFL He might just be
done this. That could be it.
That kind of a One-Shot. No, no, don't.
This is not how you intro a clip.
My God, Romeo w. Your girl.
It's a good kite that took me back because we like hearing the
rationale for selecting and being a bring back to Minnesota
week. 17 is my only reason for wanting to take him home and
yeah it's a good reason they were.
Yeah. But that could be my crutch for
every single tiebreaker, whatever on the clock.
How much do you think you're going to draft before the
scheduled release? Oh like when BBM drops?
And we have that like 10 days. Yeah I mean no I mean it's
knowing me I'll probably I don't know 10 or 15 teams probably
yeah, I didn't I didn't really do any cuz I was doing the
Dynasty stuff. You can still get some wild
atp's. Those first few days, though.
But do you think they'll be that wild with how their see the big
board was? Maybe maybe it won't be as yeah.
But let's just be honest. Like if it BBM opens like, it's
Holly going to be sit on the sidelines.
We're up hit receiver real quick.
I like shark and mvs. Yeah, I'd go shark.
I think I'm fine with shark. I was about to Galaxy brain a
divisional week. 17 bring back Eagles Cowboys with my cock out.
I will I like not even joking. I have been breaking ties to
divisional stuff and I've been breaking tested official stuff
too. I felt so ashamed.
Maybe mvs was a better picked it because it's actually on the
team. Yeah, but shark is sign anywhere
even the Chiefs. Yeah.
I like Pat Euros. Good use of that bit.
That I've heard a long time. Everybody.
Does that? Does it terribly?
But that was good. That was good.
Oh my God. He could even put a bow.
It's like, no, honestly is here. That is why I said shark, that's
why. That's why I don't because I
literally had the thought process.
Well, what sharks are free agent, he gets what he can also
be better than mvs. I think he's shown us more.
There's there's a skill element here but Mvs already being on
the Chiefs is promising, it's good?
Yeah, it's nice. Cody says, do we think Gallup is
any better a further year removed from his injury?
He has to be right hand when you guys think, like Cooks being
there should help Gallop, right? As far as just getting him back
to his kind of natural spot because some of his biggest
games were back. When Amari and lamb were there,
right? He was playing more as the as
the three. Yeah, one issue with McCarthy
rise. I remember he was doing with the
Packers, he just had his guy like run their routes.
He doesn't ski many. Then he just has like he just
like, go get open and Gallop, doesn't really get open.
All that work was just, yeah, so I don't know.
I'm so I've been taking Tae Kwang and Thornton and basically
every single fucking draft if I pound the table for one guy
here, is what still him? Yeah.
Nico is the guy that would have. Yeah, Nico has the like learning
this went P. You don't pound the table often.
I don't know. Like it.
I do think like is it the situation just continually Like
clearing out for tae kwon at least from a Target perspective
to, I mean his competition for targets is just going to be so
low. Yeah I like to call.
I think any of these guys who like very clearly have jobs not
just jobs, but strong chances of running, a Full Slate of routes
and we're not sure, you know, second-year player.
He could be, he could be really good and he has 11 elite Ray.
He's got seriously Elite Speed, yeah, Elite Speed.
And what always? Made me raise my eyebrows and
kind of like oh that's interesting.
Was when they were really scheming stuff up for him in the
Red Zone last year where it was almost like, Belichick in this
organization is like, we gotta save some face because we can't
have another busted pick. Your, we are going to feed this
guy, the ball and they just might not have an option, if
they don't use one of those first, two picks on a wide
receiver, I mean, might just be their de facto number one and to
get that a guy that has that speed the second year profile in
the 14th. It's just like, I'll keep making
that bet there. I like it.
I probably don't have enough of them because I take so much Nico
but that's when I just need to split more going forward or
even. Go to go to the tech one side
now. You have a on legendary upside,
you have the piece about why Niko was the big winner of the
Cook Strait, right I do and it's it's free.
Go check it out. Alright, we are going to be up
here again. I'll go to the whole board but I
assume we're done by 10. Something we have to do at some
point, right? They're gone though.
I think we waited this point and grab too cheap is Marvin?
Yeah I'm still here is he? Yeah he's no he went and always
a little funky wet. Okay.
Give me a name tears. Marshalls got a job.
Yeah. But it's not gonna he kind of
he's gonna lose those snaps maybe.
I mean he might be a little bit of a DJ chart, little hedge
move. We're going to get some kind of
Carolina routes. The concern is if shark signs
there because I talked about wanting both feeling and shark.
Hmm, sharks, like the last guy available.
So my hope is that he Is just not sit around and wait, I mean,
the weird thing is he only got a one-year deal last offseason for
like what 8, or 10 mil when he's coming off like a broken ankle?
Yeah, but everyone was getting paid.
He didn't have a great year. It seems like the league,
doesn't like him. Like they know something.
We don't, I still think he's, you know, potentially pretty
good. But I mean it's just the league
view him. Very different than like mac
Holland's because it seems like they don't God.
I hope they do. I hope they do.
Matt Collins is a guy we could draft late in this drought.
He's like yeah I'm taking back a few times.
Yeah. This is this is early for men's.
He's starting to really scoot up.
He's really Rising, man. I like him a lot.
Like if he has a legit day to buy legit, I just mean day to
draft Capital. I'm gonna kind of like him.
I like him more as a third-round pick than I like downs and
second-round pick. I mean, we get a blade.
This Is Why I'm Hot all over again.
Yeah. Honestly, we should we should be
fully on Mimsy. Six.
Yeah. This is a pretty it's pretty
gross. I actually don't mind Slayton.
I kind of really want a Hardy Dam.
Yes leighton's fine. Oh I love that call.
Let's do that, which one Artie. Yeah.
Yeah, he's good. They cut Isaiah.
Mackenzie I think I'm still use him.
Oh fuck that's amazing. Seriously, no way that that he
was like 40 piss. We want to take every time but I
used to have a lot on our pigs sheep.
Oh okay. This is, this is Jason, he's
tilting us. Sniping doing spells name,
right? Hattie laughs wait, scroll up a
little higher. Where was the?
I don't think he's typed us. Otherwise.
Nah. Oh it was new.
It was new. Go apart.
How now that was talking about Helen Kinney, it went right
before us in the fourth, we were all we got ourselves in on nuke
and then he went. That's not a snipe that's
falling on the land. Mine for us, we thank him for.
No, come on. The fourth is correct in this
draft that mean pretty bad. We got we got a crescendo going
on nuke, then he was on the clock in the Clock Was ticking
and Ticking ticking and then he sets a new plate, he's watching
the show. All right, so we have now taken,
let's see. Wide receivers in 1236, straight
rounds from round 11 on Alec Pierce Romeo dubs.
DJ charkh taekwon Thornton Terrace Marshall Darius Slayton
491 I'd say we've recovered. We've definitely attempted to
recover. Should still be a little tough?
I wish there was like a receiver who I just loved in the 20th
that used to be Hardy, but the word is out.
You know who I've been taking a little bit and it's gross.
Especially after I read some stuff that there might be just
like a little bit of concern with Rondell Moore's.
Recovery time line is Greg Dortch did.
Did you read some stuff that Davis wrote is that?
We were at these low. I know that's rolled out a
little bit on this list. Some more it gets bad real fast
man. Matt Collins is in there.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean John Jennings. There's dudes here that are
going to run rounds a week to Duke wez.
We could do quizzes as a stacking /.
Yeah, yeah, let's let's save that though.
That's so gross. We also could just take visca
and just Corner the market on the entire Panthers and not take
Stroud. I don't love that.
Let's, let's take a running back or a tight end here and Cuz
we're probably only one receiver and I like likely.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I'm in.
The question is, do we go with a 3 tight end build with Goddard
unlikely or two? I think given the player pool
you go 3 I think we can go one running back.
One wide receiver one tight end to finish so we would have a 25
10th rebuild Yeah, I kind of yeah I guess we got such good
value on Swift and mixing that we would be totally fine with
one more running back. Yeah.
I mean the chance of the running back hitting in a meaningful way
is obviously much greater than our third tight end.
So that's why I do think it'd be up for conversation to go to
610, too. Yeah, I do too.
I'll let you guys figure that out, while I look at Underdog,
ATP wide receivers with, no atp's and treasure.
And the issue is that we probably like the best pick In
the next round will probably be a tight end.
Yeah. So we have to decide if we're
doing that or if we want to maybe grab quiz.
I've kind of leaned just scrap Quest because there's going to
be running backs that we're fine with in the 20th and tight ends
that were fine with in the 20th. Yeah.
I mean at this point there's
just, there's no one jumping out of it out at the top of the
queue and I don't mind the, the whole scroll down philosophy
here. Either get someone who's not
getting drafted in most of these at this point.
Yeah, for sure. All right, we can do quiz to get
our triple stack going here that gets us to 10 wide receivers and
now we can do one more running back.
As can you go where your free agent?
Oh, I mean till the signs the matter?
Well yeah. The yeah, this is gonna be a 6
Spot because it'll be much easier to find a third tight
end. We like cedrick Wilson.
I think we gotta move on to. Oh yeah, okay.
Well I'm just gonna keep reading random words.
That's the show quizzes. Are you go to bed at night?
Did you just read your girls? He's slow.
But he had a little bit of juice, a little bit of juice.
Let's, let's, let's do the same game, but with running backs.
Okay. Ronald Jones.
Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Wait, did someone already taken?
Nope, but someone will now Ronald John.
He's too expensive in the 18th. He's more of a twenty first
round pick? I don't know if you can do and
then you gotta wait til the 21st time.
You gotta lie. So 21st first.
Yeah. Otherwise it's a reach, Gene
Grant. If we could, I hate it.
Okay. I don't like it at all.
She keep Great. Escape Andy Isabel's on the
Ravens. I will say is it is it Matt
Breda going to be the direct back up to Berkeley again.
Probably but they should draft someone in the super deep
running through the glass. I would take wrong Jones as when
it's amazing. I would take Gary bright well
before I would take my burrito, okay.
There any rookies inject I tend to prefer going that route as
well. I mean IBK with Musgrave or is
laporta gone. If Laporte is gone, this is just
this absolute sick draft because cunt she's that.
Let's get Musgrave. He's like kind of the last of
that isn't working too well, I think Alberto was a good pick at
this point, dude. All right, I would do Albert.
I mean if you want to take the rookie think the rookie, but
Alberto, and why is Parm. Isn't he back on the?
Why is he not showing the Chargers?
It didn't hear. He's uh, probably drafts my.
I like Musgrave because, like, there's a couple really good
offenses that need a tight end. I think Albert, I still really
good folk and I think we should have taken two running backs but
I'm too tired to fight right now.
Yeah, I don't think a rookie late.
I don't like these types of rookie tight ends.
These are the ones that like you learn the tight end.
Recognize I'm doing anything. Yeah, maybe.
But I mean what that when he's like a good rookie title last
year last year at the end of the year because the third tight
end, right? So you just hoping for some
spike any of these pics you just want to play off Spike weeks and
we saw that from a conch. Whoa, Johnny Woods, Trey
McBride, Daniel balint. Right now maybe I'm being a
little bit loose with the term Spike week there but like they
were they were in the mix in the final weeks of the season.
So all right three names, I interest you in Thailand
Wallace. No, we need around now.
Dear Ernest Johnson is interesting.
You just saw it? Where did he just say?
Hey Jax? I kind of like that.
Yeah, yeah and I was gonna mention Kiante Ingram and then
he goes here to this is a sick draft.
Giannis is what the the Jaguar. Yeah, that happened today.
I'm fixing like not looking forward to this summer.
Let's just take justice Hill for the 15th stroke.
Yeah, I just put I'll just put all of our old favorites in the
the QE. Do it justice.
So you scroll back up. Yeah, maybe they're just guys
the top because these sickos draft, everyone.
I mean collided with the lyrics. Now, I know why you were
scrolling down, Samir white, it's a white now, use your lab
anacondas a dude who I have not really taken any of, but he just
won't admit it. I swear has fans.
Wait, what, why is here white? Undrafted you not just the hand
covered up because he's bad. Fortress bad.
And I'm not 100% sure. I didn't like him.
I asked you to butt in, like, 20th round this year.
I mean, you only got 17 carries last year.
Five years. All right.
Wow, pounding. The table.
White goes off the board clatters.
Look, I swear to God, they do you say a name and they get
Samir white, just go, dude. Yes, yea and CH.
Let's do Evan Hall. If he gets draft, Capital, he
could be. Okay.
All right. We have people in the chat
yelling having whole. I'll do it.
Look, I was This is exciting that we got to our first draft
were. We just drafted to Rookies.
The Pat told us the draft that I'd never heard of yet.
I need to get up to speed on the rookies.
You have a Musgrave and whole I have not heard all Musgrave.
Gotcha, Musgrave is let me see what mock draft database has for
him. Because he's, he's kind of that
firmly in that day to mix. Mmm.
Why path? Looking this up?
I'll give you the full recap. 20 round team did finish with a 25
10th rebuild, got Jalen hurts and Trail ants at quarterback.
Ramon Dre, DeAndre Swift, Joe Mixon Zach Chardonnay, and Evan
whole at running back, AJ Brown, Mike Williams, Chris God, when
Alec Pierce Romeo dubs, DJ chart icon Thornton Terrace.
Marshall it just refreshed on me.
Where is the rest of this team? Darius Layton, quiz Watkins at
wide receiver and then are tight ends are Dallas, daughter,
Isaiah, likely, and Luke Musgrave.
And most grave is a 46th in mock draft database 46th overall.
So he's tied in for behind mayor Kincaid.
Washington reporters right after him at 62.
Hmm. Yeah, this is, you know, it's so
funny because at the start of this draft was like, oh maybe
this won't be super-pissed boy, heavy.
But then like rounds, four through seven, they just flew
off the shelves and guys like, you know, Berks and Pickens and
all these guys ended up going. Like, I don't know, eight or
nine pics of their ATP. I basically every spot and then
we felt that we should have got Devante Turpin from Dallas on
this team. Malik Davis was available if you
want to go. The non-road Joe Dallas guy.
Well isn't he no tirpitz? Our receiver Turpin was later
SFL guy. Yeah.
Who also has like a domestic violence issue in his in his
past. I believe you know what's
interesting about this build is that it's like a hyper fragile
build from 2020, you know what I mean?
Like not even. Not even terms of like those
running backs to be going there. But like, these running backs
with these profiles would probably be going in like five
round five and Six in 2020. So I kind of think it's a
functional built. I can I interest you guys in
qadir Al Hajj, please. Stop that.
This is the worst game. I Falls life.
I absolutely cannot do another draft tonight.
Um, I was going to say, though, Pat to your point, I have felt
like there's some weird dynamics that like think about when we
were taking like antoniou Gibson.
One to turn with kind of like the legendary upside filter,
like you're now getting remond Ray and Tony Paul.
ER, yeah, as like a third-round picks and it feels a little
weird to me that the market isn't more excited.
About those guys who they have the skill set that you want.
They also Flash. And now the runway has been
cleared for both of those guys in the market isn't reacting to
that and then same with the super discounted guys.
Like it does feel weird to go through these drafts and have so
many running. Beck's feel like values, it
really does increase Halls. Another huge part of that Nick
Chubb. I think is is like very
reasonably priced. I'm not even drafting a ton of
Derrick Henry because of all the other running backs and draft
instead but in the third round I think he's fine.
Josh Jacobs is probably like slightly under price in the
third round. At least, like maybe we're all
just becoming Boomers her. Like all these running backs of
the third Rider. You kidding me?
I love it. Yeah.
Like it is kind of crazy. I'm just not used to it, I am
Like I'm doing a lot of wide receiver.
First round running back running back and then I try to hammer
wide receiver through those middle round.
So I don't get caught out when wide receiver dries up after
like round six to seven. Yeah, well a lot of that type of
build. Yeah, I can.
You throw a receiver that you should take?
This is this is real. This is real.
Is the guy I swear to God I'm ending the show.
If this is a bit Jayla, dragger?