Ship chasing back to our Thursday afternoon time slot
after last week's change in schedule, and today we are going
to look at the Sprint contest. We've drafted in one of these
previously. This is a contest very similar
to Best Balmania, except there are no pods in Week 15 through
17. It is just the best teams to
advance, all of them competing together.
So we'll share some of our favorite hammer plays for the
Fantasy play offs and dig into it all today on ship chasing.
I'm Pete, joined by Ben and Pat. Let's do it.
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It looks like we're finally at this point here, right?
All right, we are back. Pat, Karain, Ben, Gretch in the
throes of best ball summer. How we doing guys?
Doing good. How you guys doing?
Good. I just saw this this Jaguars
tweet. They just tweeted out Trevor
Lawrence's baby announcement and it's the most like.
I saw it. GQ like he's not wearing any
socks and. No.
No, with his long hair and everything.
I'm just looking at it right now like, oh man, that's the the
most, I don't know, Southern, you know, quarterback vibe.
It's it's, you know, it's working for him.
Yeah. Pat, did you?
Yeah. Did any of you guys consider
doing a baby announcement like this when you guys had kids?
Let me pull this up here. Here it is.
What do we think you have to? Try to look that like, not try
hard. That is, I mean, that's in a
magazine like that, that's, that's absurd.
Like I wouldn't be surprised if like that table was for sale.
Yeah. So did.
Either of you guys do like the gender reveal pomp and
circumstance? No, no, no.
I mean, I basically didn't have a wedding, so we're not real
into the pomp and circumstance over here.
I, I am, I was a little upset about that because like, I'm
still waiting on my first like Internet friend's wedding.
Like I wasn't able to go to Davis's because I had another
wedding that day. But I I actually feel deprived
that you didn't give us kind of like a ship chasing adjacent
wedding and reception. Yeah.
Well, you know, that was always never, that wasn't, that was
never the plan. So that was.
Always. At least we got to be that.
Was always not going to happen. I now that you asked that it's
funny that we did it so low key. It did remind me that because my
2 girls are 4 1/2 years apart, my oldest was like able to walk
and talk by the time that we had the, the second one.
So we did have, we had a big box wrapped like a big present for
her to open at my mom's with balloons.
And then pink balloons came out and she understood, she was old
enough to understand that like this was going to mean whether
she had a baby brother or baby sister, she had a baby, you
know, baby sister. So that was that was what we
did. That's in the in my parents
living room low key. Yeah.
Just for the. That's not for the spectacle,
right? You're not putting, you didn't
put that out there. It was just a nice thing to do
for someone else. You weren't trying to get
Instagram likes out of that you. Didn't I?
We do have a film somewhere of it.
I've seen it before. Like it's not definitely is not
on the Internet. Gretch, where how are you doing
in your your slow drafts? Are you are you due for another
trip here? I am due for another trip and I
don't know when I'm going to be able to.
We just got back from a family trip to Montana, drove through
Idaho and all of Washington. Idaho and Montana don't allow
underdog, so I didn't get an enter anymore there.
I'm running, I'm running low right now.
And then we have a trip to Eastern Washington.
The the trip to Montana was my side of the family, Eastern
Washington, my wife's side of the family here in a little bit.
The girls just finished their last day of school a week ago.
So in a lot of other places, the country, they've been done a lot
longer. But up here in Washington, it's
like the latest, it runs super late and we have to jam in like
all our vacations until like August.
Dad's not going on vacation, right?
So it's got to happen like between end of June and like.
They're like when we go to Hawaii, you know, Vegas, yeah,
Vegas is great in early September.
You. Know those like when they show
like availability maps and they have like the stuff grayed out
it'd be so funny if you're like all right kids gather around
we're going to pick our next vacation orange states are the
ones you can pick from that's. More or less what it is my my
parents are from Montana. So we went and visited by, you
know, went to my grandma's house and it's like just you want to
move. Yeah.
Yeah, that was like when I grew up.
I, we didn't have cable and I always wanted to go watch the
NBA dunk contest as a kid. And so we had to go to grandma's
house for me to watch the, the dunk contest was always like my
big treat to get to go over there.
So you gotta you gotta make sacrifices as a kid, Pat.
How about you less slow draft hell because you got the the
sidekick on your side. Yeah, I mean, the sidekick's
very helpful for slow drafts, but then I entered like 175, so,
you know. So it's a lot.
I still love the draft. So fucking nanny, Yeah, people
coming to my stream, they're like, you're the slow draft
king. I'm like, dude, I'm doing 40.
Have you guys met Pat Karain? Like this guy Slow I.
This nut 'cause I thought I was doing, 'cause I haven't been
doing much, I got to like 11 fast draft puppies.
And so then my OCD kicked in and I was like, I'll do nine, I'll
get to 20. And I was like, yeah, I'll do 10
more. I'll get to 30, I'll get to 30
total. But I had to get that round
Number. But even that I'm like having to
check in and I'm like I told you guys, my my normal slow draft
plan is I make the alerts and I just haven't broke to like set
up Google Calendar alerts to remind me to make puppy 2 picks
yet. I'm just like, I got my ranks in
there. If I auto a few of these like so
fucking be it. Yeah, there's, there's certain
days where I try to just like make like a, like my picks like
more regularly cause 'cause certain some days like just with
work and stuff, I'm like, I will be checking you in eight more
hours and you know, or 7 1/2 or whatever.
And I come back and make all the picks.
But there's certain some days where I'm like, maybe if I just
like pick all the time today, these drafts will be over.
I I get the same way and then you're like.
It didn't work. It didn't work.
But what sucks is when you come back to it in 7 1/2 hours and
you've enjoyed the time off from drafting that day.
You're doing whatever. Like I'll be doing stuff with
the kids and I come back and I'm like, I have to make 20 fucking
picks right now and I don't want to.
Like on street for this sounds like a dream, Gretch.
It sounds like a 20 picks. It's nothing.
Whatever. Yeah, more.
But like right before bed, like I'm super tired.
I want to get, you know, I'm trying to get good sleep.
It's the offseason. It's like, man, I got a fucking
pound from 20 pecks out right now.
Yeah, for you it's a lot more than that, but.
You know what, that's a good point, Ben, because I've had
both of those feelings where sometimes you're so jazzed up to
like go make those picks of like, it feels like this little
dopamine reward. I got these 5 picks to go make,
I'm gonna go in there. But if you are tired or have
other shit going on and it's like becomes a chore, that's
that's the worst feeling. There was one day, this is pre
sidekick when I was we were testing stuff out, but the
sidekick wasn't like operational.
So I'm just like doing stuff more manually.
And I was like, we went out, we had this great night and it was
like all right, time to go to bed.
It's like, but before bed I have to make like 60 picks.
This is. Like, well, that's, I mean,
that's where I'm headed next. Like my next trip, I'm gonna do
a lot more. I'm gonna enter a lot more.
It's just, yeah, I'm, I'm trying to stay like somewhat sane
'cause I'm doing like projections and stuff right now.
I mean, there's just like a lot more going on.
It's tough like Pat, like how do you get anything done?
Like it's you're talking about like set no side 7 1/2 hours,
then you have to get through 60 picks or you try to do it all
throughout the day. Like either way, like it kind of
consumes your whole day like it it.
Can if you're not careful, but you know, I've made three picks
since we started the stream and I'll continue to drip in the
fixes as we go, so that's one. Way that's impressive.
I can't. I can't multitask like that.
That's great. So let me just go ahead.
Yeah, I. Don't know.
I was, I was going to move us along the out of slow draft
tell. I was going to say on Wednesday
with the badge rose, we were kind of doing another little
portfolio review and I was kind of looking at my exposures and
noticing that they I feel like they're kind of segmented.
Like I had all the guys I was hammering that first month or
so. And now I have this second wave
where guys are coming up where I'm like, oh man, I'm getting
higher on JSNI, have a lot more. Stefan Diggs is one of my big
risers lately. Do you guys have any players who
maybe you weren't hammering early that are now really coming
into focus for you? I do, I mean, one thing I do
like about being in a bunch of slow drafts is that you end up
in these pockets of the draft all together and you start to be
like, huh, I really am not taking any of this guy and I'm
taking a lot of this other guy. And should I be doing that?
And should I actually adjust the rankings to account for that?
I just doesn't feel right or you start to really realize like,
oh, Rashi Rice is like rising a lot like he's now, if you want
to, if you're trying to before you could hang out in the mid to
late 7th and he would come back and that's not going to happen
anymore. Like that's you know, so stuff
like that. You get a feel of the one dude
for me that's not necessarily someone I thought I would be
getting super into, but I'm taking more Zamir white than I
used to because he's available like pick 90 and the talk.
You know, Antonio Pierce is like basically like I want to feed
this dude and he did just feed Josh Jacobs.
That was like one of his key things.
Maybe the offense is like good enough.
I don't think it'd be great, but like they they've got Adams,
they've got Bowers. Like Pierce was not afraid of
shootouts last year. Obviously they went nuts against
the chargers. Like there's there's some upside
to what the offense could do in terms of not being totally
horrible. I do I do think they are one of
the most likely offenses to be totally horrible.
But you know, when you're, I think that's somewhat baked in
when you're talking about the lead running back with no real
competition at pick 90. So I'm doing like there's times
where I'm like, I've got 1 running back and Zamir White's
there. And like this, this feels pretty
nice. It's like I'm capturing a
backfield potentially mostly as A2 down guy, but kind of like a
arbitrage Kyron, you know, kind of vibe.
I've I've taken a lot more than I thought it would.
It basically it to me, it always feels like Pacheco on a really
bad offense. It's kind of how I think about
the Zamir White clique a lot of. Yeah, I think it's a good take.
I I think that's a good arbitrage concept.
And I, and I think that's a good take from Pat White's a guy I've
taken a little bit of as well, even though he strikes me as
like the best example of like the dead zone and like the kind
the kinds of guys you used to avoid in the 4th and 5th round
were like he just had a little bit of a stretch of dominant
play, something like five or six games.
And now we're projecting him to be the lead back the next year.
Except like you said, we're paying pick 90 prices and the
payoff in best ball, we've talked about this with the dead
zone before is way different, where maybe he doesn't have a
lead upside, but just elite usage is so valuable in best
ball. I he's not a season long pick to
me but I'm definitely in on taking him in.
Best ball at that price. Like, well, The funny thing is
in season long, he probably will be a fifth or sixth round pick
for sure. You know, he's gonna he's super
easy fade, but like he's he's a best ball profile.
Like what if a dude chugs along and can get you like 11:50
points a week at running back? I I.
Hate paying like a fifth round price tag for that even in best
ball. But if you're offering it to me
at like between, you know, pick 8595, like OK, and wait, what
receiver am I giving up? Cortland Sutton, you know, Tyler
Lockett, Like I already have five of these dudes.
I already have 5 receivers, maybe 6.
And I'm I'm when. You're outside the wide receiver
window. The opportunity caught like now
that JSN Rashi, right? I, I did a, a stream with Neil
Orfield yesterday. And so I got to do 2 fast
drafts. And I mean, the last couple
episodes of Ship Chasing, I've been making this argument that I
feel like JSN, Deante Johnson, Rishi Rice, that group should be
going ahead of like Ladd Mcconkey, Keon Coleman, like
we've talked about it. It's almost happening I think.
It's happened like it was happening on that stream.
You just said it with Rishi Rice and it's those other two guys as
well. And it's like, man, I used to be
able to the seventh round when I was when my slows were going
through the seventh round, I could rely on those guys being
there until pick 80 until the later part of the seventh round.
Maybe not at the 7-8 turn, but like definitely if I had the
seven O 7, you're going to get one of them.
And we did not get one of them in either of our drafts last
night. Like that doesn't happen.
At least it didn't in the two BBMSI did yesterday.
There were fast drafts. And it's really Jameson and
maybe Keon now is like right. And that's occasionally one of
the other guys, like occasionally Watson or JSN will
fall. Well, we got.
Ladd in the 7th and I was OK with that at that point behind
those three. And I was like, all right, well,
if it's going to flip, I'll take Ladd in the 7th.
But to that point, like we're, we're starting to see, I think
that the, the delineation of the end of the wide receiver window
where now I want running backs and, and Zamir White is behind
that, like Isaiah Pacheco was in front of that, for example,
right? Like I, I want the running back
that I can take the bet on where the opportunity cost is not
those receivers or better, right, It's, it's, it's Jameson
Williams or worse, right? Like that's when I start to be
like, all right, I can pass on Jameson Williams.
Like I don't necessarily have to pay this price for his profile.
There's a, there's a very clear line, I think end of the wide
receiver window that's forming that I at least that I'm
comfortable with. But all my drafts are at the
end, Pete, when you ask like guys that I'm starting to get
used to or, or that I'm taking a lot of, I'm getting a little
scared because I'm taking like almost way too much of two dudes
at the very end of almost every draft.
And, and one of the people on my stream this week on Wednesday
made a good point that I'm missing the opportunity to take
other late round picks. And it's true, the two players.
I'm excited for these days. The running back that I'm taking
every single time won't surprise you guys 'cause it's the same
team of that I've been just talking about constantly, but
it's Audric estimate like yeah, you guys know that I love
Javonte Williams. I love the Bonex fit.
I love the the high value touch potential in this backfield.
And I've been about the size of Javonte Williams, like his
actual weight visa V, you know, Julio McLaughlin and the, and
the hype around McLaughlin and estimate is so cheap and just
feels to me like the direct handcuffed to Javante due to
again, size and being able to play on three downs.
And he like, and these superflexes that I'm in that are
finishing up, they go 20 rounds. I'm just taking estimate every
time, like in the 20th round, like when I needed a 6th running
back or something. It's just too easy.
And then at running back or see, it feels too easy to me for what
I expect for that backfield. And then I'm probably going to
be wrong. And then a wide receiver.
It's Greg Dorch because we were talking about it last time, I
think, but it's Michael Wilson and Zay Jones to me feel like
they're kind of competing for snaps.
George feels like he has a role. I don't think he's that
different than some of the slot guys that go a little higher.
Like I, I feel like I can project him for a good number of
routes out of the slot and, and he earns targets.
He's going to have some usable weeks.
Like by the time again, you get to the 20th round in these
superflexes that I'm finishing up, but even the 18th and normal
drafts, there's not a lot of receivers where I'm like, I feel
really good about the routes here.
Not that he's gonna be an 80% route guy, cause slot guys
usually aren't, but I feel good about like the role, like he's
gonna play at like, right? He's gonna play out of the slot
all year. Yeah, and I think he's better
than Zay Jones and Michael Wilson didn't show that much.
So I did the yeah, I just raised Dorchev 'cause I was like,
Dorche is someone I want more of cause it's not like he's been
amazing. But when he get, when he's out
there, he has done, he has been, you know, decently impressive.
And I just feel like when you look at a guy like Zay Jones,
he's he washes out of his first contract, he goes to the
Raiders, he revives his career kind of in weird circumstances
where you know, he wasn't going to play much.
But then Ruggs is out. So then he's he's in there and
then he gets this contract from the Jaguars as they're trying to
get professionals in the building.
And then he gets, you know, he gets 2 years a run there.
And then, you know, he they basically he's cast aside after
that and he washes up. And with, you know, with
Arizona, we're used to Zay Jones getting playing time.
But like that, that career is not necessarily one that then
displaces a a veteran who was already in a role.
And I would, you know, they've talked about Michael Wilson
being like he when he's out there, we're gonna expect him to
help us win games and they're not committing to him being like
an every down guy. But like I I think he's zay
John's most likely. He's probably just like a
rotational backup to Michael Wilson, right?
Right. I mean, I think roll wise, I
don't even know that they operate at the same like depth
of target and everything. Like I don't think they really
overlap a ton. Zay and and Dorge.
To me, Dorge is like doesn't have a lot of competition on the
current roster for what he'll probably do.
And it it's so interesting 'cause I looked at his like
yards per out run profile, he doesn't actually have strong
yards per out run any years of his career.
He doesn't earn a lot of targets per outrun, but if you go look
at his game log, he has a bunch of games where he's had 910
targets. Like when he gets into a match
up that works for him, he seems to just compile volume.
He's a weird dude because I think he's been running routes
in, not in the role that we want him in, but then he gets in the
role where he's this clear slot guy and he's and he's a stud so.
Yeah. You know, I'm generally so we're
on the clock. Sorry, I hopped to send the
Sprint. We got the 16 Monroe here.
Yeah. Structurally an easy pick.
Yeah, very. I, I feel like Bijon should go
right there too. But like, it's just like
structurally so much more comfortable to take a receiver,
so I can't take him over Amina. Have you have you guys been
doing any sprints outside of stream stuff?
I haven't. Yeah, I, I'm wondering if the I,
I think these rooms are slightly less wide receiver heavy and
I'm, I'm a little scarred because just my most recent best
ball breakfast was just like insane avalanche.
But I because the reason I think about it is because JJ and I
took Bijon at like 110 and then just got buried in an avalanche.
But like, I think in normal rooms it's a lot.
Easier to block. He think that that was enough.
You could you. There was no over receivers for
you, even with just one detour in the first round.
No, I I can bear. I've tried to like block it out
of my memory. It was a really awful
experience. I mean, 'cause if you're at the
10, like think about that. Like so 3-4 you can get
receivers, but by 5-6 it's probably already pretty dusty
and seven eight you're definitely not getting.
It 7-8 you're it's over, it's over.
Yeah. It was over.
We took Tyler Lockett like 26 picks ahead of 80.
Right. We took Tyler Lockett, the 5-6
probably. Oh God.
Tyler Lockett is your wide receiver for 25 picks ahead of
ADP. Is is how you start hating the
draft. Oh.
Man. 'Cause if you key on Coleman at
the 603, it's like, did you have Allen?
No. We, we did Brian, we, we didn't
capitulate like in the 5th we took Anthony Richardson and was
just like, I can't. And then we we grabbed Brian
Thomas coming back 'cause we had to get somebody.
Did you get like 88? It was. 7-8.
No, we got, we got downs. We were.
So we got the double stack with Downs and Pittman.
You get buried when you're out of turn.
I mean, that's when the avalanche gets so gross, man.
You just you can get so buried. Well, maybe I lied cause Chris
Olave and, and Nico just went here to our friend line of
scrimmage at at 12:13. But yeah, I've been, I have been
in in quote UN quote normal rooms, been trying to mix it up,
been taking a little bit more Derrick Henry, a little bit more
Isaiah Pacheco, just trying to build around some of those
players that I had a pretty big hole in My Portfolio that I
don't want to be fully underexposed to, especially if
the thesis is those guys are gonna rise when casuals start
start drafting. It's like kind of like the LAD
stuff where it's like I I packed a lot of LAD shares early, so I
wasn't quite as out when he got higher.
I'm kind of thinking like, I'm gonna have like, no Pacheco and
Henry if I'm not grabbing a little bit of them now.
But it is interesting where like I think depending on how much
they rise, but it's possible that I actually am more
interested in some of these running backs.
I'm, it's more like Pacheco probably than Henry.
But like, if I know I can get a receiver in the, in the, you
know, late 7th, right, then I would be more open to taking
Pacheco even in the early 4th. But it's like I'm, it's the, the
prices on everyone are gonna change.
So if the running backs are more expensive, then like I, I,
Jonathan Taylor's probably someone that's gonna be a lot
more comfortable for me to click in August because I'm gonna feel
much better about my receiver depth.
It's an interesting point too, if the if if a lot of these guys
move up, it means then the wide receivers will come down, which
will make it less avalanche, which will make it a little more
palatable to keep picking your spots and grabbing these guys
even at a slightly elevated cost cause the macro dynamics will be
working in your favour. Exactly.
We're on the clock here.
Taylor Waddle, IUK Barkley, Debo by ADPI should mention these
ADPS are slightly different from BBM 'cause it's a different ID
and format. What do you guys like?
IUK or waddle I think. Scratch I.
Was going to say probably Taylor or Waddle.
I, I couldn't do IUK in a Sprint.
I don't think the my my issues with the target stuff.
I mean, yeah, I know there's weekly spike ceiling.
So the one thing for the Sprint for me that's different is
you're looking for a guy that can dominate over three weeks.
Like what we know from the the high stakes stuff and the
sprints that are there is how guys can really separate as the
guy you need over three weeks. Like when they have two monster
games, It's less about the one game spike.
Like the thesis for IU guy. When I keep talking about how we
only had 105 targets last year. I do understand from the you
need to advance each week. He could be the guy you need for
one week. It's much harder for me to see
him pay off the the Week 2 price in a spike week sense over three
weeks. Like where he's I want to, I
want to take a swing on somebody in the second round that I think
can separate over three weeks with like elite volume.
I mean, he could have two spike weeks and then not kill you with
the down week because you cover it.
There's there's outs. But like Waddle to me with the
contingent upside stuff we talked about if Tyree kills not
in those games, Waddle can be the wide receiver won over three
weeks and separate, right? Like that's what happens in the
Sprint stuff in the in the main event.
You remember like a few years back when it was, I always
referenced this one example, but it was the the Kirk Cousins,
Jordan Reed, Washington stack where like Kirk Cousins was AQB
won by a lot and Jordan Reed was a tight end won by a lot and you
just were not winning if you didn't have both of those guys
in in high stakes. There was another year where it
was Russ Wilson and Doug Baldwin or Doug Baldwin caught like 7 or
8 touchdowns in three games. I think it was 8 T DS in three
games. And it's like you had to have
that that little stack. And I also think in the Sprint
you probably don't wanna over stack teams because the idea of
like it could be with this guy this week, this guy this week,
this guy this week makes more sense when it's week, week,
week. But when it's the three
combined, you you want that like one guy, like one of the
Baldwin. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you're competing
against 3700 teams. Like you're still gonna have to
hit the nuts in this, the pod act dynamics.
Actually, yes, it's more volatile, but you don't have to
be near as perfect to get to the playoffs in the pod.
You just need Amari Cooper's 50 points in in in that week and
you're good. Both HEN and Kyron go off there.
HE and Kyron, we're looking at DJ Moore, Laporta Metcalf Cup
tank. What do you guys like?
I'll leave this for you guys. Probably Metcalf or Cup.
I haven't done much. Oh, what was?
That no go ahead, crutch. I would go cup I I don't love
Metcalf at all. We're gonna say you haven't done
much, Metcalf. I haven't done much Metcalf not
honestly not a ton of cup lately either.
I'm I'm. I mean, I'm fine with either.
So the more that I, I know I haven't given strong answers to
the question about Ryan Grubb's offense and you know, I keep
getting the UW thing. The more I think about that, the
more that I I do worry about the Metcalf price and I know Sean's
not not in love with it. He thinks that's like the one
wrong way to play Seattle's offense.
The thing that Seattle did was they were super multi.
I mean, not Seattle. The Huskies did with Ryan Grubb
and and that offense was they were super multiple.
We've talked about this before. A lot of motion, a lot of
misdirection, a lot of different types of formations.
But what that ultimately I think means is you don't get like one
elite target share. You get a spread out like the
offense is going to the ball is going to go different
directions. There's going to be like play
designs that are misdirection and it's the first read is like
the tight end sometimes, right? And sometimes it's the maybe the
secondary receiver, third receiver.
I just, I, I would be hesitant cause and Metcalf didn't even
have like that dominant of a target share last year.
I think he could really fit in an offense that will probably be
more vertical and pass down a field more.
I just would I, I don't understand the gap, I guess,
between him and JSN as a year two guy and especially lock it
if like, if you're going to play one of the vets in this offense,
just play lock it. You know, like I think it's
going to be fairly balanced with the targets between the big
three and even FAN. I saw you and your newsletter,
Pete wrote about FAN today as well as a guy like I want to
play Seattle's passing game through those guys, not through
a third round price on on their number one or their expected #1.
I could see it at, you know, working out that way.
But I think it's also like, if we're betting on this offense to
be a lot better and more creative.
And DK Metcalf is a guy who's been kind of glued to one side
of the field doing the same thing over and over in like, you
know, kind of almost like a Michael Gallup level of like,
you know, lack of creativity, right?
Like Mike Williams, right? Like, what if he gets what if
instead of having a Mike Williams role, he's unlocked and
he can do stuff more like A.J. Brown, He's actually getting
moved around. I mean, that's, that's really
exciting to me. Like, and Metcalf has been
really good every single year of his career.
His career low in yards per hour and is 1.83 that came as a
rookie. He was at 2.04 last year, said
multiple years over 2. The other two years were
1.931.94. Like just consistency.
He's, you know, he's really good.
He's not like one of the very, very best wide receivers in the
league, but he's pretty good. So I don't, I don't want, I
don't want to be saying I'm going to play this offense a
number of other ways and not through Metcalf 'cause if the
offense takes a step forward, they're more creative, they're,
they're more productive through the air.
The most likely thing is that the, the very best player would
eat is the way I would, that would be like my baseline
expectation. So I'm not like hammering
Metcalf, but I'm not, I guess I'm kind of, I'm kind of
dabbling at with the various ways this, this all could go,
including doing stuff I've used on the, on the Chicago stuff as
well. So.
Yeah, I should probably get some Metcalf.
I mean, I think that's a really good tag.
It's just there's a big gap in their pricing, right?
Like, so if the offense hits the way you said, that would be my
default, but it's already kind of priced in when he's going in
the middle of the 3rd and it's not priced in to lock it.
And JSN and and Phant, who I think all can really come above
their ADP if the offense hits in that way, right, like there's
more room for those guys. The pricing is so certain that
it's Metcalf that it's it's hard for me to I I agree.
I should get some Metcalf. That's a that's a good take.
I'm I'm like full fading him and probably should not be doing
that. All right, ADP, Pitman, Henry
are slight fallers, Higgins at ADP and then we start to get
into the tight ends. Amari, what do you guys like?
This is actually where I take some Pitman.
Oh. Let's I don't because Pitman's
another one that I'm like I don't.
I don't really ever take talking about I I.
Was gonna float Henry. You guys wanna do it?
Henry? Share at 47.
Sure. I think it would be my wide
receiver, but Henry seems like in a Sprint, in a three-week
thing, like, why not, right? He could be the dude.
He could score 6 touchdowns in three in three games.
And you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think just my small two cents on your guys is the
Metcalf thing, because it's like I I buy both the arguments to
like, Gretch, if there's like, if all things were equal, like
with the offense of just being like, I want to bet on the
younger guy, the second year breakout and what that could
mean for their trajectory. But then you layer in such a
massive system change and thinking like, if everything
clicks, you know that that's where I'm like, holy cow, you
know, DK Metcalf's a top 12 wide receiver and it doesn't even
necessarily come at the expense of JSN or those other ancillary
pieces hitting. But you're like, this was just
an offense. I wanted to stack up every
piece. Yeah, I mean, Metcalf, it might
seem expensive because he's going in the, you know, early to
mid 3rd, but he is wide receiver 20 in well, at least in our
ranks. Hang on, let me see by ADP, he's
wide receiver 20. So.
'Cause I gotta say, maybe later. Yeah, it's, I know we're not
especially high. We're just strapped with ADPI.
Mean he had to have been later than wide receiver 20 I feel
like in this draft. So I mean, like that's, that's a
pretty, that's low. That's not, we're not actually
asking for a ton. You know, it's like be
productive, be good and have the offense take a step forward.
So I'm at 5% Metcalf, I'm at 5% JSN and I've made an effort to
get up on because I was, I was too low on JSN earlier.
So I've, I'm trying to get I, I would probably like to be like
slightly underweight on both players is where I think I'm at
and the. The chat just brought the 8 hole
there's I mean, I'm trying to think through it, but like in a
Sprint format, you need one of Allen or Mahomes to be the the
there's just no way, right? There's no way this is right in
a Sprint. Yeah, the team started Puka,
then went Allen at pick 17, then went Kelsey at 32, then Mahomes
at 41. It's really the Allen pick that
is just the. Doesn't fit if you're going to
go Kelsey Mahomes, which is fine, you can go Kelsey Mahomes,
but. And you're.
You're hearing the team. At those price, right?
It's dead in a Sprint, right 'cause like I could, I think you
could make an argument that like 2 elite QBs could ping pong in
the weekly thing. But in a Sprint, you at these
prices, you need the QB to separate as the QB want, you
need Josh Allen to separate. And yeah.
Too many other teams. There's too many other teams
that would have like you would need you would need such a
strange outcome. You would need like Josh Allen
to go absolutely nuts and then dud and then Mahomes to go
absolutely nuts in that week and then have the opposite thing
happen again or the same thing up.
Like it's not. I don't know.
It's a very, very. Very and that scenario could
happen with different QBs. Doesn't have to be elite QBs for
that to happen if you're just talking about one game like it's
weird. Can you Reid or Allen?
Yeah, I was going to say a wide. Receiver for one of those two
guys that I like. Do you guys have a prep around
looking at if we have any correlation stuff?
I mean, Keenan's 17 verse Seattle and a Monroe I yeah, we
don't have any Seattle we. Didn't do Mecca we.
Were talking about Seattle. We could do Keenan though.
But yeah, we got the a Monroe there and there's a lot of ways
to play Seattle. I do think, I mean for the
Sprint as well. And, and it's not like novel,
but those week 16 and week 15 buys, or I mean, stacks are not
going to be, they're going to be a little bit more unique 'cause
people are going to still have the Week 17 stuff in their head.
Right. It's so true.
You, you, you think of the week 17 one.
It just comes to mind so much more easily.
That's what I like with the I had brick add to the caddy.
So now in parentheses it'll show NEC.
So like mix in it's going to flag the Baltimore and the
Miami. So it's gonna say 2, which is
for the Sprint is specifically really nice 'cause yeah, yeah,
that's awesome. Be like let me get those.
Extras. That's very nice.
All right, so the team so far, we got Derrick Henry at running
back and then wide receiver, Monroe, Jalen Waddle, Cooper
Cup, Keenan Allen, we missed out because of that kind of early.
Run this dude. He's just, he's just having a
what is? He throwing this or does he
think the guy who started with Mahomes and Allen just took CJ
Stroud too so. There's a $50 draft.
It's a weird one to it. Just punt into the sun, yeah?
It is like I always say that sometimes I wish I could do like
just a, a quick interview, just like see this person right now,
ask him a few quick questions like, and they it wouldn't even
be condescending. It would just be like, do you
know what contest you're in? You know, yeah, that's not
condescending at all. Do you know what contest you're
in? That I think it's a probably a
fair question. Do you know the scoring
settings? Do you know the lineup settings?
All right, maybe it's a little condescending.
I mean, he has gone what? What was his first pick?
Puka. Alan Kelsey, Mom Strout, he
thinks he might think isn't the superplex.
You might. I mean the guy, the guy at 11's
not a badge and started receiver, receiver and then went
Etienne Pacheco, Rashad White. There's a different approaches
in this draft that is kind of night like if you're looking for
something that's different, it's I think the lower price points
are the lower price points are often harder than the higher.
Yeah, it seems like you get a little get a little variance
here. Because you're getting, you're
getting more volume from good drafters.
Yeah, or at least drafters that do what we do.
I mean, not to to well, eight is, but like 11 might be right.
I'll just give him like some benefit of the tower.
Yeah, hopefully I, I, I need them to land this plane so this
draft doesn't get thrown out. The last.
I do not want to see any. Purple.
If this is. The car I want to see Derek Carr
right here. That's what I'm written.
For no. Come on.
Take take Ladd Mcconkey I. Want to see Derek Carr right
here? Oh man, let's see what he's
looking at right now. He's like man, fuck.
Burrow, Burrow. Burrow shouldn't be here.
Just shouldn't be here, yeah. Quarterback's supposed to point
in position of the football. Take Mixon, you need him.
He retired very good. I think that.
Oh, double tight end, who was it?
Dude I feel so bullied at the onesies right now.
Wow, that. Was his second tight end.
Yeah, this is this. Is a little sketchy.
This guy sees the kind of engagement hit him with the grit
he's getting with his radical onesie strategy and saying I
need in on that. So we don't get an elite tight
end here. Pitts already went.
Yeah, we got. He did, yeah.
We got boxed out. All right, there goes lads.
So we are on the clock. I'm still down to goal receiver
here. BT Hopkins, Addison Rice.
Rice is good. Yeah.
We'll come back into this range, right?
Yeah. Yeah, let's let's grab him.
He he feels like a nice wide receiver. 5 here with a Monroe
Waddle Cup in Keenan. Yeah, it's a nice one.
Has the the stack with somebody right Who?
Did with with Henry in week, Yeah.
That's nice. Wait.
Or sorry, I kept now I was mixing that up.
I was seeing the Houston on Henry.
No, he has. We don't have any stacks with
him yet. Oh, interesting.
The one player. Oh it's Houston now we need a
Texan cause Houston has Miami, Casey and Henry all three-game.
We'd get a little bring back on all three if we got a Texan.
Dalton Schultz maybe is AQ guy with no no tight end.
Dalton Schultz. I like that.
Yeah. Damien Pierce.
Damien Pierce late, it was Mixon who we were talking about having
two also had KC. And got.
Me thinking about the KC thing. Yeah, Rice I think pairs well
too. Like if you are saying OK maybe
Cup and Keenan aren't fire for the full 17, maybe a little age
Cliff somewhere in there, then you get the Rashi rice swooping
in for 15. Percent just just bye week, bye
week Brodus. There's we have 3 receivers on
on week 6 bye already, Yeah. Well, they're gonna throw out
this draft, guys. They're gonna throw it.
Out. I do think it's like not great
deal, but it's not a on this format.
It's not a huge a huge thing at this point.
Yeah, we're OK. We just got to get to the.
Speed. The other thing is is if Raashi
Rice gets the suspension like how you get the six game
suspension he was he was going to miss that anyways.
Also, he's going to miss games where all of our other receivers
are on by, which is. Yeah.
You'd like to pair a bit of late.
Rice levy spins on this and say the bye was.
Already I think that makes it worse.
The 5667 with Rashida. Not only will he not be there
week six, he'll also not be there for other.
Early buys, all of our other buys.
So really we just paired buys with everyone.
This is what we're saying. Bye week chasing.
Little did you know. Yeah.
So we're up to, we got our one running back, Henry.
We got our five wide receivers. As far as tight ends, Ingram is
here. There are a couple more wide
receivers. Watson goes, so you're looking
at Keon Coleman. Otherwise the running backs,
Kamara, Aaron Jones, Naji Romandre.
How do you guys think we play this we.
Could go romandre. Pretty open.
I'm fine with. Jones has a little some
correlation stuff there. Is that what you were saying
the. Yeah, although he has the week 6
by I mean Naji has the double correlation with Baltimore and
KC I'm fine. With any of these running backs.
Let's just let's just not do the Week 6 by with Jones.
I I'll do the the Naji here. I mean Derrick Henry and Naji
Harris we know by. High T.
These guys are big, physical running backs.
Going to get so many low value touches.
You're not going I'm. Going to get so many low value
touches. Can you imagine how many times
are you going to get handoffs up the middle?
2nd and two on his own 35. Oh yeah. .4 points, we're going
to get that fucking. First down.
I feel like that is such a theme in my drafts this year.
It's just like, you know, Vero very zero RB like picks through
seven or eight rounds and then taking all the guys that we used
to never draft 8910. It is.
It's it's like they're finally priced at a level where like no
one else is even available. It might as well be the 18th
round for receivers. So it's like, OK, I'll take all
these guys now. It is crazy that like three
years ago we were trying to tell people to draft this way, and
now there's all these people that like, I feel like it's, you
know, the young contingent is so into it that we're the boomers
now. We have to now drive, take the
value that like Leonie a couple years ago was like, hey, dude,
you guys jumped the shark on Josh Jacobs.
We're now like, yeah, I mean, we've jumped the shark on Naji
Harris. Yeah, we've jumped the shark on
Derrick Henry. Like we're just eating all that.
Yeah, but I mean, it is like, it's so different because I was
saying this on Legendary Sickos. We have Leonie on, and it's like
when we the self for 0 running back used to be.
Listen, I know it's gonna feel uncomfortable to take Trey
Benson in round 7 as your RB one, but it'll work out, trust
me. Contingency value chaos, right?
But now it's like we're not even talking about that stuff
anymore. It's like you're taking.
Take Romandre Stevenson, the starter for the Patriots, who
just got a new contract. Take.
Naji Harris, who's gonna get loaded up with carries.
Take. You know, all guys you can make
five more rounds and take Devin Singletary, who got a who got
signed to his old coach and has like no competition and you can
take him in the 12th like it's. It's not like it's not.
It's not until you get to like Blake Quorum and you know, Ty
Chandler. I mean, these are like you're in
the one 40s for some of these guys, right?
Like Tyler Algier in the one 60s, I think still like that's
the 0 running back candidates that we used to take.
Like these were our RV twos. These are RV threes.
You know this is like your RV 5 now it's.
Very true. All right, we're about to pick
at 87. Got those two running backs, 5
wide receivers. We'll see what Chad Candles does
here. Doesn't seem like we need to do
any of these quarterbacks. Maybe could discuss Caleb
Williams on the Wrap. Tua, Love, Stafford, all I mean
all are available. Caleb Williams is coming up
soon. But Yep, I don't think we have
to push QB. We could do Brock if we wanted a
little tight end up side. I think like, yeah, I mean, I
think it's Brock or. Like I was gonna was gonna do
the Zimir White. Yeah, ache that that Pat was
floating earlier, but he goes. He goes, yeah, yeah, I like
Brock Bowers a lot here. Let's let's get the tight end up
side of the year. Yeah, let's do it.
Especially with over three weeks, like I don't think you
want to just be fully punting. Right.
Yeah. And late season, like back
weighted. I mean, yeah.
Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, I think we talked about
that the first time we did the spent Sprint draft 'cause we
were trying to think through the tight end dynamics.
And obviously the spike week is massive for the pod dynamics,
but it's also massive because if the average tight end score is 7
1/2 points and then the one guy drops 25, it's like, holy shit,
trying to catch up with that is going to be really hard.
Yeah, I mean, last year I think it was off the top of my head,
but I believe three of the top five teams in BBM had Laporta in
their starting lineup and four of the five teams had him on the
roster. Cause Farid's team didn't use
his score. He had Juwan Jennings, but he
but he did have Laporta helped him get there.
So that's that's just with the guy now he's a late round guy.
You didn't have to spend any capital on him, but you get the
the tight end who didn't really do that much in Week 17 still
being on four of the five teams. He would have been on five of
the five teams in this format. I think like it would have just
been extremely, extremely difficult to get there without
Laporta. So if there's a tight end who
goes off, even if he's expensive, like you know, Mark
Andrews would have been on the winning team the year Liam won
in this format, 100%. He just, he just put up too many
points in Week 15 and 16 not to be.
Yep, Yeah, I like getting Brock there.
Also, kind of a weird quirk of this draft, I'm not sure if it
was because of the different ADP, but Najoku, Najoku went
ahead of actually both Ingram and Bowers in this one, which
helped push him down to us. I guess.
Now the question. So we already have Henry and
Harris. So like, this is the range run.
I'm usually taking a lot of running backs, but like, I don't
feel the pressure at running back right now.
So like, yeah. Lots of quarterbacks sliding
Kyler and Love both still on the board.
And then we hit Jayden and Caleb.
It always feels gross. Like Caleb's obviously our
correlated piece, but then you're like man, taking him
ahead of like Kyler. Love Daniels on the board sucks.
It does, but you know the stack is really important.
Yes. But we could also, it could, it
could be an argument to push it 'cause we do have a Detroit,
Miami and LAR receiver there, that those quarterbacks are
still on the board as well. So yeah, I'll make a case for
for guys. So James Conner, like he's going
behind Trey Benson and ADP here or not?
No, he's he just slightly ahead. OK.
He seems pretty nice to me as an RV Three.
Yeah. Yeah, let's do it.
Obviously, let's take another of the.
Type of weird cut. He's just starting running back
for a. Decent team.
Another another jump. The shark running back.
Yeah, at pick one O 2. Would you like the Cardinals
starter? Who?
They're like James Connor's our guy and we're going to ride him
all year. Would you like him at one O 2?
He's available. Seems nice.
And I, I do think that's a good tiebreaker.
I do that tiebreaker a lot, like if I have three to four options
behind, then push the guy at quarterback, see if you can get
the deal on him. Although Kylo loved went right
before us and Daniels went right behind us.
But we do we have other. Stacks set up I think is the
other big thing. Yeah, well, and and the drafter
out of the eight holes already got three QB, so we don't have
to worry about him. And this is.
Stupid. What has he done?
Can we check in on? Him, he he's, he's back on
track. We're not getting this draft
thrown out, which is nice. Like Kamara, Jameson and Samuel
after his quarterback tight in blitzkrieg.
It's crazy that in a room where he took three quarterbacks in
the first five rounds, there was a bunch of QB value.
Everyone was like, all right, fine.
Like, if you're going to take a bunch of early QBs, we're just
going to not draft quarterbacks. Jameson Williams is your wide
receiver one. Now puka come.
On Oh Puka. Jameson was the perfect wide
receiver. Two on, everyone knows.
Yeah, he's the wide receiver. 2 on the lines, he can be your
wide receiver, too. In fantasy.
He's good enough for Dan Campbell.
He's good enough for us. Yeah, Caleb goes to the Rome in
DeAndre Swift drafter. Also the DJ Moore drafter.
Chad was in front of us too, so I don't think he was going to
get back to us at 1:15 regardless.
I like the pocket passers in the Sprint.
I was just talking about the, the Ross and Kirk Cousins thing.
And this is not a take I've really thought through, but the
idea of like pocket passers need to spike TD rates.
And there are years that we have those examples where guys have
spiked it over three weeks. It seems like you could actually
like, as a pocket passer, separate more than you can in
one week, over three weeks, if you really spike your TD, right?
If you throw for 9 touchdowns three straight 3TD games, you
know, I don't know. Well, golf had, I mean, golf had
a hell of a run for a couple weeks and if.
You if you if you do it week after week after week, you could
actually differentiate. We also, because we're only at 5
wide receivers, we're obviously going to have some bullets to
build out some backdoor stacks as well.
So even if we miss out on one of our three, I think or we're
firmly in play for a a third stack.
The question here I think is going to get interesting with
our quarterback or running back capital because they start to
make the case, you know, you could, depending on who we get
here, could easily be a four running back build if we wanted
to like shut it down with a Henry, Naji, Connor and an
upside swing type pick. We're also looking at some of
these wide receivers by ADP, Shakur, Palmer, Wicks, Goddard.
Is the tight end available? Is where's Schultz at it tight
end? Oh yeah, good call.
It could be a little bit later, right?
Yeah, 134 ADP, So we could we could check on on him at 1:26.
OK like either Brown or Spears give you chances I think to
justify A4 running back build here.
I would be Spears there. I'm Brown also gives you the
Levis out too potentially. What did you take?
I said I'm brown. He said he's Spears.
I've been taking Spears just because of ADP.
I mean, Brown's like my most drafted guy, so I'm, I'm not out
on him by any means. But yeah, I normally just take
the the ADP and see if he can get him back.
Let's do it. We didn't have any other
correlate. I guess the Chase had, well, now
he has Tennessee, but we didn't have any correlation.
I was trying to look at the bias too and we didn't have a a buy
consideration there either. Look.
At all these quarterbacks. So here's here's the team.
Yeah, definitely smart to push the quarterbacks.
So no quarterbacks. We got Henry Naji, James Conner
and we finally gave the Zero RB Bros a fun click and Taje
Spears, wide receivers of Mon Rod, Jalen Waddle, Cooper Cup,
Keenan Allen, Rashi Rice and then Brock Bowers.
I love that receiver room. And then we're just gonna have
some Flyers. You hope you catch one spike
week, But it's it's the idea is those five guys can can really
dominate targets over a three-week stretch.
All of those guys could have such massive target volume week
after week, right? Like including Rashi Rice, who's
our five Waddle, particularly if Tyree Gordon missed time has
that kind of contingent upside cup Allen and Amanrar are guys
that could just be three straight double digit target
games in a row, which they've done in their career like
multiple times. Yep.
It's it's a fun and then we're and then yeah, we're going to
have bullets coming up from the back.
That could be Spike week, guys. Yeah, I like to build a lot
because we just unlocked a roster spot if we want it, right
for that RV five we don't need now.
So if we want to, you know, use that on 1/3 quarterback, use
that on a wide receiver that maybe we don't strictly need,
but helps us unlock a stack, that type of stuff.
So we're we're also like, if we do go tight end here soon, we
could potentially stop at two tight ends if we want.
So we have, we're right, the build that gives us a lot of
flexibility. It gives us a lot of flexibility
and because of that I'm kind of thinking a late RV5 wouldn't be
the end of the world 'cause our top.
Three. Oh yeah, yeah.
Wouldn't be. Yeah, it's a luxury pick I I
like. Probably should be like a
rookie, like a real nice. Upside swing late Late season
upside. Yep.
So one thing we should think
through, and I'm actually curious, OK, this drafter didn't
do it. So the Miami stuff is all behind
us on this side of the board, the Tyreek draft or the HN.
So we should definitely push Tua.
The question is if we want two quarterbacks here, then like we
probably need to take Goff now he's past ADP, or if we want to
do the Schultz, like it's either two quarterbacks or one
quarterback and Schultz if we're trying to play that over these
next few picks. I think I like Goff.
It's like a direct bet on Amanara being the dude.
Sure. Yeah, we can let Schultz go.
I mean, Schultz has all the stack stuff.
We're not going to be able to get him if we go 2 on the way
back, yeah. There's a small scanty.
Fall direct bet Yeah, well he would have to fall the way to 13
'cause we're we would want to take oh, I guess if 2A went then
we might be just. One right then we'll.
Yeah. Schultz is fun, but it's a it's
a more complicated bet. You're saying that these game
environments are awesome and he's the bring back and Goth is
just. I'm gonna if our first round
pick hits Goth. Good point.
Yeah, We want Amarat to have like 35 targets through those
three games and just be going off and soak off's a good guy.
To have Amarat catches for 300 yards and five touchdowns in
three games. We want the quarterback throwing
all of that. Yeah.
I, I, I do love that. I, I feel like that happens to
be a like a decent amount of streams where you just end up
like making the most obvious correlation point again, you're
like, well, you know, they're one's thrown to the other.
And so like if they're having plays, then it'll be good for
both of that. The touchdown actually counts
twice because you get the quarterback and they're glad to
see. I know so far as to call it a
double dip. Is the double dip only?
Scores once they only get 7 on their on their board.
It is only one. Actual touchdown.
But it counts twice but. You could I I think the double
dip might might actually. Isn't that the new kickoff role?
Restoring the double dip to to its original glory would be
would be amazing. We need those guys.
Need to fire up the DFS edge pod again just so Peter Jennings can
say double dip 19 * a show. Who's going to be the double dip
king? Like who?
Who's? You know Patterson.
Well, but he's he's a single dip.
I hope, I hope he's just a single.
No, the double, the double dip is wait, don't you?
You need him to do well in offense too, like you want him
to. But we're talking about
different double dips. I was thinking of the old school
DFS sense. But wasn't.
Oh, but you're right. But the old school DFS sense is
that you would play the Steelers D and Patterson.
But Patterson you would you would generally prefer that he
also be involved in the offense which you.
Want the best ball? Double dip, which is he's the
running back and the punt returner who scores a touchdown.
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That used to be Tyler Lockett, Rupesh.
Knows that used to be Tyler. Yeah, yeah, maybe Roma Doonsay,
he had a a kicker turn TD in college or a punt return T,
although he didn't have a lot of punt return volume, he wasn't
well. Xavier worthy.
Xavier Worthy back there, did he?
Return a lot in college. I don't know, I just, he's just
fast, so I said. Man, I want to do more of these
Sprint drafts. So like this drafter took Aaron
Rodgers to stack up with Garrett Wilson, which not that that's
egregious, but just 131. Like I haven't seen Rodgers go
that early in a in a draft in a long time.
What is his eight one? 159, yeah.
Yeah, so had a ton of punt returns in college.
OK, so I thought. I thought he did, but I wasn't.
Yeah, Yeah, he had. 40 punt returns, yeah. 22 last year, 15
the year before. A bunch.
Yeah, let's go double dip. So yeah, it looks like still on
the board is both Tua and Schultz, I still think.
Dunze had three punt returns and ran one back for TD.
Oh yeah, Tyrone Tracy. He could be a double dip guy.
There you go. Starting running back for the
Giants down the stretch and kick returning.
Yeah, Oh my God, that that'd be a good take to float.
To win BBM, you're gonna need a guy who scores a punt return
touchdown. We'll be more the kick return
'cause that's the that's the one that's.
Changed. Oh no.
It's not. Dude this this quarterback
hoarding thing was all fun and games until you took Tua as your
QB. Four.
I think he is just autoing off the top of the Q.
And doesn't have that was his fourth QB.
Oh my God. But yeah, he doesn't have
positional limits. And look at the.
I mean the first few weren't ADP values and now they have been I.
Took Allen in the second, so it can't.
It can't be. Do you guys want to get our
shorts here? Loaded in.
Yeah, I think Schultz, Schultz is a good fall back.
'Cause it makes it a potential too tight end build too.
And what does an aspect of it to have it bring back all three
games Is is nice. Yeah.
So, and now we'll we'll need to start thinking about building
out second, potentially third stack like if we would somehow
miss out on Stafford. Stafford's the.
This is probably A3 quarterback build.
I think it's been yeah, but that's OK Three stacks
quarterbacks for a format like this is pretty nice.
Plus we we already. Pat's already thinking about
Drake May so much on this. Team, I mean Jalen Polk's you
know I would have floated him if not for Schultz.
This guy taking Fryerman should have sniped us on Schultz.
So I could have floated Polk, you asshole.
You know, we need to ask Leone to do it would be fun 'cause you
know how he like he re simmed the week 17 finals but with this
year's payout structure for BBM, it'd be fun to have him like SIM
a chunk of playoff teams but over a Sprint style.
So not I don't know if he would be able to do that.
I would just be interesting to see like what type of teams and
builds had higher expected value in a Sprint versus a single week
pod. Yeah, I don't, I, I haven't had
the time or capability frankly to do it, but I was, I mean,
obviously you would just want to SIM it, but like the IT would
just be interesting to know like who would have won last year of
the teams that advanced to the playoffs, like who would have
won? The best three-week team?
Yeah. The best three-week team and
then like the year like, 'cause you could go back and look at
all the previous years and just see like what teams would have
been top five or whatever. Yeah, and then man, just don't
associate usernames with it. Can you see something as painful
as just having your team at the top and you got bounced by like
1 fucking Amari Cooper catch God.
That is rough but honestly seeing it not be the team,
seeing it like no team name and going that looks familiar and
then digging through your old teams and then realizing it is
your team. Do you guys think like in this
room and this guy just like autoing stuff, we should just
lock up Stafford and not risk it?
Well, he can't take Stafford I think, right?
He's he's locked out positional limits wise.
Let's Yeah, I mean he. I mean, other people might draft
new things because they got sniped on.
He's the puka. Drafter.
He's the puka drafter. Yeah, did.
The Kyron Williams drafter also take Blake Korum.
That's this guy right here. Yeah, you're right, Warren.
I actually. Think we should push Taffer
'cause he can't take 5 quarterbacks?
But for what my. Stress test with Tim Patrick he
can't take. For what?
Reason.
Yeah, I don't really see any reason to.
Jalen, right? Maybe.
It would be like the last running back and just if you
wanted to do a little bit more Miami correlation.
But we have the. Yeah, I think Taffer, but it's I
we're just kidding. Yeah, we're.
Just. Kidding.
Let's do it. Because it just.
If we lost him, then we have to set up two backdoor stacks.
Yeah, it would. Suck real bad.
Yeah, losing Tua suck too. It did, yeah 'cause that that
was going to be so clean. Like it's how you play Tua.
You you push them when you got it blocked on that side of the
board, you get them at 1:39. Then you get both golf into a
well past ADP and sneak in essentially 2 extra picks.
But. Tua as of QB 4 unstacked of
course. And then he like snap picks
Quentin Johnston. Like did he just push the plane?
I I am fascinated by what is going on with Big Ray the Goat.
It would be fantastic to get to ask him some questions like you
were saying. Do you know the format?
Do you know what you're doing? How inebriated are you at the
current moment? Yeah, people say they always
want like the the old school chat box for a draft.
I want like a Zoom link where I can just ring their doorbell and
be like, hey, can you hop on a video call right now?
I feel like this person is not a very active drafter because they
don't have a badge, right? And is extremely distracted.
Maybe somebody who you know, doesn't really care about the
$50 price point, has a little money, decided to jump into a
draft, but also is very distracted and it's just kind of
clicking buttons. Yeah.
Exactly, that's my guess. Someone was asking about where
TJ Hawkinson has gone. He is still on the board here.
And let's see, I'm G man. Oh, yeah.
You're in the one hole there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
CD Lamb, Davonta, Barkley, Dalton, Kincaid, Pickens,
Ferguson, Deonta. Yeah, this team looks fine.
Other than the fact that you drafted Barkley, Pickens and
Ferguson, you know. Oh my God, look at these
quarterbacks. Drake May just went out 157 to
our guy Charlie. He knew you're muted.
He knew no Drake May was safe. I'm good thing I was muted
because the the cry of agony. I'm glad that's not recorded on
the Internet forever. Wow.
We we did the right thing taking
the quarterback that would. Have what is happening with the
QPS. They were all going too early in
the one thing and then they were all values for a while like all
the top in the ADP and now they're going way ahead of ADP
again. It's insane.
It's. Crazy.
Yeah, I guess if there's is that another?
Timeout. That's an RB7 for that guy.
What is going on in this room? You're right.
Thinking Jalen right might make it back.
That guy had a 1631 build and he just took an RB7.
I I feel comfortable saying the EV might be in the Sprint rooms
because people said he was waiting for them to start and
that I don't think they're at their computer when they fill.
It doesn't seem like it. So the guy in the one hole
doesn't have any QBs. Do you guys want to do like a a
Broncos wide receiver? To set up a.
The Knicks Where Where are we at on the the great Franklin versus
Marvin Mims? Do we have a?
Take, I tend to be Mims, that's the other guy that have been
taking it late in a lot of my recent drafts, but I'm up to I
tend to be. Franklin just cause it's like he
doesn't, but I don't care. I don't care.
I don't care either. I I want to get more Franklin.
I have a lot of Mims so you have to choose.
I'll just, I'll just take the guy who has like a 1 1/2 higher
ADP slightly more. Possibility that Mims comes
back. I, I've been honestly been
trying to get both of these guys on the same team as much as
possible. I just feel like you talk.
I, you know, you think about Pat's winning team with the two
Dolphins backs before Michelle got moved, where it's like it's
such a low cost. And I really feel like one of
these guys is gonna gonna and I'm willing to pay that price
to, to find out which one. And I actually was taking more
Mims early. I, I mean 14% Mims and 10%
Franklin. So I've been kind of recently, I
wasn't taking like any Franklin at all.
And then I think one of my, one of my like blind spots this just
literally just 'cause I didn't have much Amanarad that it
didn't have much puka. I was like, I'm, I'm tired of
fading guys who go like day three, who I like the prospect
profile in some ways more so Amanarad than puka.
I was just, I just missed puka. But Amanarad had a good prospect
profile, but I was like, but he won day three so probably
doesn't matter. And Troy Franklin, I loved pre
draft and then he went day three and it's a bummer, but he's
really cheap and I want him bet on the offense.
And unlike Mims, he didn't disappoint in any way yet.
So like maybe, maybe he's awesome, right?
It's possible. So probably, so I, I think Mims
probably plays ahead of him early in the year with all the
patent comments. And I made that point to, to
Seagull and he made a point on one of our bananas that Franklin
feels like the higher upside swing where like if he hits,
it's in a huge way. And probably if you're setting
up the back stack as well with the Franklin Nick's college
connection like you need. The other part, it's like if Nyx
is hitting and Franklin is just, if Nyx is really good and
Franklin like can't even get out there, that's just like, I guess
it's possible 'cause it's like an organ system thing and he's
just, he just isn't that great. He can't he's a skinny outside
wide receiver. He can't translate to the NFL.
It's possible. But like, Nick's having like the
duty as a connection with seems like one of the ways that he
ends up having a really good rookie year.
So I love your point, Pete, about taking them both if, if
Mims goes past year, but the way the quarterbacks.
Are going OK. I was, I was like, don't, don't
say it yet. Yeah.
There's I don't see anything that we have to take ahead of
him. There's no reason to to risk it.
Yeah. Yeah, this has been a funky
room. Here's our team so far.
We got a 3462. Did get up to those 3
quarterbacks, Goff, Stafford and Beau Nix, all of them stacked
up. We got our 4 running backs,
Derek Henry, Najee Harris, James Connor and Taje Spears at six,
wide receivers. Those first five Aman Rod, Jalen
Waddell, Cooper Cup Keenan Alan, Rashi Rice just tacked on, Troy
Franklin, tight ends Brock Bowers and Dalton Schultz.
So structurally, we're in a good place for these last three
picks. I think a third tight end would
make sense. Just try to capture a spike week
in a three-week Sprint. We don't have an elite truly.
Maybe Bauer's functions as one, but.
I, it's funny, 'cause I'm thinking, all right, Bonex,
third tight end. I just did a draft with Liam
over on the Deposit Kingdom channel.
I've been doing this format where I kind of do a
questionnaire, try to draft the perfect version of my guests,
you know, all of their favorite preferences.
We ended up getting a weird spot at the end and he talked me into
a Lucas Kroll tight end bring back on our Cincinnati giga
stack. And then this is how you know
Liam is such a sunrunner. The next morning, there's a
positive blurb about Lucas Kroll being like the tight end in
Denver right now. I love that Liam's not ahead of
the game. He wasn't up on the news.
He's just look at this fucking Sunrunner.
I I had to Google what's a Lucas Kroll and.
I found out Lucas Kroll. Yeah, yeah, 'cause Dulcis is
still out. Oh my God, yeah.
So I was going to say, if we wanted that, that 5th running
back archetype that we were talking about earlier, like a
true late season hammer rookie, you know that goes really late.
I know what you're doing. Don't.
Say there is a Denver running back.
You, you mentioned this five rounds ago and I've, I've Ben's
already starting the pitch. He's already starting it.
Just say it Odric has to be. Will make some sense if it
happens. I literally was like, I guess
we're taking estimate. And then when we when we came
around to the receiver, I was like, we're probably taking Troy
Franklin, Marvin Mims, let's just get on board.
Yeah. And I bet, I mean also Ben, I
think it's just a, a smart thing too for a portfolio standpoint
because I'm guessing you have a lot of Javante and I think
having those two across your portfolio makes so much, so
much. Sense and and and I really want
to bet on that backfield and I really believe my McLaughlin
take that like he got a lot of work in weeks 4:00 to 6:00 and
then then went went back and then he probably isn't actually
going to play a big enough role to be super meaningful for
fantasy. He could have some spike, you
know, plays, but he's not going to be.
Like McLaughlin, I know he's smaller and the pass blocking
was a concern, but like all the stuff this offseason has been
like, dude, he's working his fucking tail off like that is
that's great. I mean, so, you know, maybe he
never gets there as a pass blocker, but he seems like he's
going to put in the work, so. I just feel like he's not going
to get enough snaps, like he's not gonna play enough in in
individual games based on the way it was used last year.
But he would play, he'd play potentially a lot more snaps if
he gets the pass block and stuff down.
Sure he is. He is a passing down back.
So if they trust. And he was a really high like
touch per snap guy. Like he was Tony Pollard in that
regard. Like old Tony Pollard.
With his old Tony. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if he gets a few more snaps and he's and he's touching the
ball a ton of like a ton of his actual snaps, like, sure.
I mean, it's possible Braylon Allen's another one that would
fit that profile that I've been taking a little more of if
something isn't right with police.
I mean, he's rising a little right now.
He should rise. I mean he looks pretty locked
in. Yeah.
Yeah, so the other name outflow just for upside wide receivers.
I I still love McMillan in. This I like McMillan a lot.
You like that? I haven't been taking enough of
him. I I want to get a little bit
more. I took a lot of him pre draft
and I haven't been taking enough of him post draft.
It seems to go off before I really think of him, but I like
it. And again, I think just how we
structured this team and you know, we got the the cup, the
Keenan now tacking on some pretty wide range of outcome
rookies with Franklin and McMillan for that Sprint
element. And seeing if we could just get
a a big hit from one of those guys would would do wonders for
this team. Yep, that's great.
So we're up to A3472 build. I do feel like most picks are
luxury picks at this point. Probably do agree that one of
them should be a tight end. Otherwise I think we go 5th
running back or 8th wide receiver with the last two.
Yep, Yep. I don't even feel like the tight
end is, I mean, personally, but. It's all luxury, basically
there's. Yeah.
We, I don't think if this was a 3582, I don't think that would
be wrong. I don't either.
But I I'm, I'm comfortable either way.
If you guys want to take it. I I think you're right.
They both feel like luxury picks.
Yeah. It seems like the biggest upside
swing we can take is probably going to be at running back.
I mean, Tyrone, Tracy's still sitting there.
Like we don't even necessarily have to get into estimate.
Tracy looks like he has some bring back stuff, right?
Yes, although I think the the estimate correlation would be a
benefit like if we had the Broncos QB 1 running back one
and wide receiver one and that offense is a hit.
Like I think you're, you're feeling pretty good about that
in the Sprint for. Sure.
Is there any apex that you guys like?
I mean, it's kind of surprising that Kate Otten is still here.
I was he just goes. The other guy I was going to
mention for wide receiver would just be Devonta's Walker since
we also have the big dog. I like that one.
Kind of rookie rookie flyer there, but you could make the
same thing for likely. Like what?
What do you like better Likely or Walker for this team?
I think Walker, I struggle with the likely bet.
I'm like, so he's kind of nothing unless Andrews gets
hurt. We don't.
Yeah, but. Yeah, he's and it was a more
wide receiver centric offense last year than the previous, so
Tracey went. Do you want to?
Just take estimate and figure out the other side of it if you
guys like the estimate pick. I'm on Walker, Is it?
I mean, that's a legit high upside swing.
Let's do that. Yeah, and I think just a better
chance. I think Walker is definitely
gonna go in the next couple picks.
He he now gets drafted in most where I think estimate and we.
Could So what I was thinking there's you, you kind of wanted
the third tight end. So now, now we're either on 1/5
running back or a third tight end.
I think we could have left at 7 receivers, but we're good, yeah.
We could have. To me, we had two luxury picks,
so it doesn't really matter. Like I don't think now we have
to take a tight end or a running back.
It's the same. That's right, that's right.
Make the best picks and Walker was the right pick there.
Yeah, now we got 3 rookies here tacked on to this wide receiver
room and waiting. Exactly how we said we wanted to
play it. That's that's a very fun way to
play, yeah. And the other nice thing too, I,
I, I do like this Brock Bauer's Dahl and Schultz room because
you, you're basically saying like, can Schultz give us just a
couple spike weeks to get this team advanced right?
And then Brock's really starting to.
Hunt down the stretch. Schultz is going to run 500 plus
routes and that's a nice floor of, you know, usability.
It's not going to be. Potentially a lead offense.
Yeah, there's got to be some weeks where he only gets like 3
targets, but like he's got to run at least enough routes that
you feel like there's a floor of usability across the season and
then Bowers is just is your spike, you know?
Yeah, he could. He could.
I mean, it's a little unfair to to Dalton Schultz, but it's kind
of Tyler Higbee ish, you know? And, and you know, Tyler Higbee
would always have that one week where he scored.
Three, you were in on him. He had 100 targets.
Like, I mean, it was weird and Schultz had 88 last year, you
know, like I mean in 15 games, like and and he obviously has
more competition this year, but he'll estimate did go he'll be
in that 90 target range. Yeah, Charlie's in the chat.
You know he he heard too many positive things about Estimate
not to grab him there. That also reminds me if you guys
missed ADP chasing this week, Gretch filled in for Sam.
A really good episode. Lots of talk about the Texans
passing game, more so the wide receivers at the AT on that
show. But I I recommend checking that
out if you guys haven't yet. Oh I did mention both estimate
Dorch on on that stream as well at the very end.
It's June, Yeah. We're just staying the same
thing over and over to different people and sometimes the same
people. I knew, I knew.
I mentioned that somewhere recently and then.
You said that I was like, Oh yeah, that's where it was.
What if there was just never training camp?
We just have to have these same takes.
We could. We could do.
I don't know how we feel about all the 14.
We could do the the Damien Pierce.
I know that's not fun. More fun would be like a Will
Shipley if we want to do a fun rookie running back pick.
Yeah, we could. I mean could.
Also do like the. Champions also in play to me as
like a, you know, potential late season guy.
We don't need him. Gretsch, do you have any takes?
No, Shawan Johnson. I was looking at him.
I was looking at those backs. Tank.
I mean Tank Bigsby, I take sometimes.
Who were? Who were the first backs, you
said. The ones I was looking at would
like would be chapter, Shipley, Pierce, just.
Went oh, Pierce went. Scratch that.
I was thinking Pierce made some sense but.
Yeah, the the tight ends are kind of fun too, like Yasicki,
no overlapping bye week and some fun correlations there with
Tennessee and Denver, Jitavian Sanders with Arizona and Tampa
Bay. Some kind of upside cracks at
tight end. It doesn't look awful either.
I, I, I like the, I mean, we, we were OK with the, the two tight
end build, but with estimate off, we don't have to force, I
mean, unless you guys want to go to like Blake Watson or
something. But I mean, I don't think we
have to force a, a running back that doesn't necessarily fit.
We could just do one of these tight ends you're mentioning.
Yeah, although the tight ends aren't that great either.
You mentioned Gazicki has two. Coarseys interesting.
Yeah, Gazicki could be. Let's do Gazicki.
Couple correlations gives us a little more floor potentially or
you know, some spike week. Yeah.
Throughout the season, if he has a couple decent games, that'll
give us Floor I. Like never replace their slot
receiver either, so Gassicki could be.
I. Pretty decent.
Gassicki could could be like an arbitrage Schultz right?
Where he's kind of like the guy who just is the beneficiary of
an offense going Burr and backs his way into 8 touchdowns or
whatever. Right, we could do the what's
the difference between 'cause last year's What's the
difference between Dalton Shelton and Haydenhurst?
There was a big difference, actually.
But no, it's What's the difference between Dalton
Schultz and? I mean, this team is sick.
It's just it's a big bet on some older backs being right.
I mean, especially Henry and and Conor older and Naji.
But if those guys are right, like, you know, what do you get
when you're right? Like sometimes you have to
assume you're right about some stuff.
If those guys stay healthy and we get enough out of those four
running backs, this team's sick. It's a in a three-week Sprint,
you're gonna need your running backs to be healthy.
Yeah, it can be difficult to like you're gonna need to hit
the nuts. So what's the first part of the
nuts? Your running backs stay healthy.
Yeah. And and I mean, we like the way
I've been saying it a lot. We've we've said this type of
concept of ton. The way I've been saying it a
lot this offseason is you can't build contingencies for
everything. It's the same thing as like and
you got a draft like you're right or whatever.
We end up going with A3QB3 tight end build that does build in
contingencies at those positions.
We have the five really good, like potentially targeted
earning wide receivers and we got those 3 rookies to provide
some spike week upside with it. Like the receiver build is, is
sexy as hell. Like I mean it we're we're we're
really only saying one thing has to really be right.
We don't have contingencies built in at running back, but
like, I'm OK with that. Yeah, And I've been trying to
figure out, I feel like, and basically every podcast that I'm
on, I'm just trying trying to talk out loud as I figure out
the strategy. But there's there's a way we can
do 0 running back maybe, but I think it might be hero running
back. This is where I've been leaning
is that it's like you do a hyper fragile.
It's like you combine the strategy.
So you're combining like a lot of the elements of 0 running
back. We just hammer wide receivers
early, but you take 1 running back early, but then you only
take 4 running backs. So it's like a a hyper fragile
hero running back build like, and this is what we just did.
This is an example of that. Yeah.
You treat Derek Henry as like a
hero running back, but then you you get enough running backs in
that pocket and then you're done.
And then you can get, you can still pair that with, I think
you can even pair it with the elite tight end if it falls to
you still like we could have, we had a opportunity to take
another receiver at one point, right, to get to 6.
So that could have been a fifth receiver plus an elite tight end
potentially. Yeah, let me recap this whole
team here for the audio listeners. 3 Quarterbacks Jared
Goff, Matthew Stafford, Beau Nix 4 Running backs Derek Henry,
Najee Harris, James Connor, Taje Spears Up to 8 wide receivers in
Monroe St. Brown, Jalen Waddle, Cooper Cup,
Keenan Alan Rossi, Rice, Troy Franklin, Jalen McMillan,
Devantez Walker, Tight ends Brock Bowers, Dalton Schultz,
Mike Kasicki And despite the bye week Bros being after us early,
no overlapping buys at quarterback, running back or
tight end. And then we got away from all
the week sixes at wide receiver with all different bye weeks
with those other guys. So I think this this shaped up
pretty well. Yeah, I like it.
It's very fun. Team I don't I don't like to do
like 4 running back builds very often.
I don't feel comfortable with it 'cause I just think all running
backs are going to get hurt and and ruined and my teams, but
this is like the best 4 running back build I could imagine.
I feel really comfy about everything else and it's like,
all right, well, just stay healthy, you 4.
And I do like the profiles we did it with, right where it's
like we take the Naji in the corner, you know, where it's we,
we know this team is going to have a ton of volume.
And then we're just praying that these guys don't get hurt.
And being a workforce is a skill.
Like Connor's missed a few games most years of his career, but
he's a 200 touch guy every single season.
Like it's not serious injuries. Naji has already shown that he
can take a workload over a full season, multiple seasons of his
career. Derrick Henry obviously is like
the prime example of that. These are guys that have shown
an ability to to handle a lot of touches over multiple years.
Like I know you, you get to the thing where you're like, oh,
well, age and are they going to fall off a Cliff?
And that can happen too. But there's something to be said
about like consistently being able to take a lot of work.
Like I I feel comfortable with with these, like with this bet
on these guys. I feel more comfortable with
this type of player than like you throw like a DeAndre Swift
in there. He's younger but it's like that
dude, like he's never even had his huge work like him, always
gets hurt on top of that. I I completely agree.
And like, that's how I'm like, OK, so we have these profiles
that are basically like silent killer profiles.
You know, even if if you take them like the dead zone profiles
for sure, but they're like they're like even if they hit,
they don't do that much for you because you know, you're you
gave up wide receiver, you gave up the chance to find the league
winner at wide receiver to get this guy.
And he's not. It's just like a whatever
replaceable RB2. But like, OK, now we're pricing
it down so much. How do I get the value out of
this? And I think it's like this where
it's like Naji, Connor Henry, like those dudes are filling
two. It's like those three dudes are
filling 2 running back slots like every single week.
And then Taiji Spears is kind of the late, the late season upside
guy and you're done. And it's like, if that doesn't
happen, then the team's dead. And you know, but you try.
I'm trying out a bunch of I'm taking a lot of different types
of these running backs. A guy in Discord tagged me and
he's like, he was like shocked to see me take Naji over Warren
in the draft. I am doing it.
There are there are spots I
think you want to get. I I haven't taken enough of Zach
Moss. That's when I need to get a
little. Bit more.
I mean, that would shock me too if I saw that.
I know it would be. Thank you Do.
You imagine being a draft of me and seeing me like nausea.
I honestly can't. Imagine that.
Yeah, I've done it. I've not done it a lot, but I
have done it. But I, I wanna, I wanna, I don't
wanna come away from this year. And it's like.
And the answer was Zach Moss. And I'm like, that's the one guy
I didn't take. Yeah, you know, just for sure.
We know that's running backs like so much of it is based on,
you know, some fluky injuries. Like there are like bust risks
in that stuff. It's less talent based.
It's more like situation and and and circumstance can lead to
huge ceilings like B flatter, right?
Like that's that's what that says to me.
B Flatter. And I'm gonna have a big stand
on Warren 'cause I think he's awesome and he's priced well.
And I'm gonna have a big stand on Jonathan Brooks, 'cause, you
know, you're getting that that rookie breakout profile a lot
cheaper cause 'cause he's coming off 20 ACL.
But, you know, that late season upside I think is still still
there. But I want to be flatter in
terms of what else I'm doing. I don't want to like, I don't
want to have massive, massive, massive stands that lock me out
of all the other guys. And I don't want to go like.
And in addition to that, I like Romandre slightly more than
Aaron Jones. And so I will have all Romandre
and no Jones or whatever it is, you know.
Yeah. That also reminds me talking
about some of the running back capital stuff.
Someone tagged us in some cool work they had done.
Coupe FB. Oh, this was cool.
Yeah. So he was watching our show
where we did kind of a lean running back build and then he
was comparing the production in seasons prior and then their ADP
the next year. And basically, you know, just
visually showing how the type of backs based on the production
we're getting, they're all going, you know, 30-40 picks
later than what we used to pay for them.
And basically kind of backing up, you know, anecdotally what
we felt in that what we just did here where you can do these four
and five running back builds with not that much running back
capital spent because those builds that used to work used to
be more expensive. And so you can kind of have it
both ways. And then the other fun thing
about it is it feels like you have all these luxury picks at
the end of the draft where you don't have to be married to like
catching up Structurally. You can just be like, this is
the highest upside swing. This is the best correlation.
Play and let that dictate you at the end instead of being like
fuck man I need Juwan Johnson on this roster.
So, so I have a team. This is this is halfway through.
I'm I'm in a puppy, I think. And it's so I got I was out of
the one who I got Christian McCaffrey.
Then I went five straight receivers, Malik neighbors, DK
Metcalf, Keenan Allen, Tara Mclaurin, Jackson Smith and
Jigba. Then I took Kenneth Walker.
There's my RB2. Then I got Jaden Daniels stacked
with McLaren and Brock Bowers at tight end.
So I'm like, I think this so this builds right.
Depending on what running backs they get in 1011, I might stop
at 4 running backs. You can get McCaffrey in the
obviously one O 1, Kenneth Walker at the seven O 1 and you
could potentially be done with just four running backs like
trying to trying to do. I'm still sort of experimenting,
but these are like the Eric Beinfor and I talked about how
like Daniels and Bowers also might be kind of a key to this
type of thing 'cause you can potentially get elites at
quarterback and tight end under price there.
It's a, it's a, it's a strange year where you could just like
you can, you can be like overpowered at every position
potentially if you, if you play these rooms right.
So when you guys talk about the actual like production, I had
actually, I had been looking at our our top three running backs.
I was on the same wavelength. Some fun facts about him.
James Conner, 200 plus touches four straight years, 150 + 6
straight years. He's he misses a few games most
years. He's about 13 games played in a
lot of those. But Naji Harris, 280 plus
touches all three years of his career so far, right?
You don't usually have to pay 8th or 9th round for a guy who
starts to screw with three 280 touch seasons.
Derrick Henry got hurt in 2021. We remember that.
He's led the NFL at Russia temps the other four of the last five
seasons. He has 300 plus touches in four
of the last five seasons. I mean, these are guys that have
shown a consistent ability to handle a lot of work and come
back the next year and handle a lot of work.
Yeah. If it's not, if I don't have to
pay for that, then you know, and it's unlocking.
I don't know, it's just it's it is self reinforcing too, because
when you can get Anaji Harris in the eighth round or whatever,
like why am I, why am I taking like ETN again, you know, or
like Etn's better than Harris. He's better for sure.
But fourth round versus eighth round, like, it makes me
nervous. Yeah.
The other thing I was going to say about doing it is I feel
like it's the next evolution of like, how do you get an edge
with this style build? Because people are going to be
funneled to this style of build just naturally by ADP.
If you just drafted off at ADP, you'd end up with a lot of these
builds. Bunch of wide receivers, elite
tight end, elite quarterback, boom, now you're starting to
grab these guys. How can you kind of play with
that and build better versions of those teams spending less
draft capital at running back than typical zero RB drafters
would spend there? Exactly.
And I think, you know, Leone's shown that if you have 3 stacked
quarterbacks and you're bringing them back.
And I also think you know, the The Sims and stuff don't show
this as much but 'cause we haven't really done it.
But I think like if you just game stack other games without
the quarterback, like if you're building in stacks and you're
just like using your extra picks to load in more stacks, whether
it's bring backs on your quarterbacks, stacks with the
quarterback game stacks on other games like that is how you're
unlocking huge potential spike weeks all hitting your roster at
the same time. And that's, I think probably
where you're gaining the most when you're like, all right, I'm
not gonna, instead of taking like this, instead of taking
Clyde the birdie lair because I feel a little bit uncertain at
running back, you know, completely unstacked in a
position I probably don't even need 'cause I, I actually have
these like guys who are gonna get like 250 carries.
Then instead I'm gonna, I'm gonna bet on this game that I
already bet on and grab another, another piece when this game
goes nuts and, and get that guy to hit my line up.
So that's where I 'cause I have been thinking like, what is the
point of what I'm doing if I only stop at 4 running backs?
Like, what am I getting for it? And I, I think, I think adding
correlated, correlated pieces is, is one of the best ways to
do it. Rookies, Leoni was, was arguing
that there's probably rookies, you know, it gives you another
late and, and I agree that that's another really nice way
to play it. And then attacking the onesies
is probably you get that extra stacked quarterback or an extra
tight end who could, you know, help you get through a week or
or add to a three-week Sprint. Yep.
All right, guys, fun draft hop in the Sprint.
I know in the deposit Kingdom and we have some drafters tags.
I know the sprints can be a little hard to fill.
You can use that roll tag if you're trying to drum up people
to get in your Sprint. Gretch, what's going on in the
stealing signals neck of the woods this week?
Working on projections. There's some pieces that I want
to write for the newsletter, but are I'm kind of putting off as
I, as I get the, the projections under my belt.
Did a stream Wednesday morning. I'm going to I'm going to do
Wednesday's going forward And then usually like 11:00 AM
Eastern 8 my time probably ish and then possibly once another
time, you know, in the during later in the week.
But I haven't figured out if I'm going to do that this week.
I'm running low on drafts right now.
So it's kind of, you know, balancing act.
But yeah, Wednesday, stream spawn the Wheel talked about the
Packers a little bit. That's about it.
What about you, Pat? We're doing a rankings podcast
after this, so probably we'll probably post it early tomorrow
morning. I'm gonna be jumping on with the
guys talking through the best ball rankings.
And yeah, if you're interested in checking out the sidekick,
head over to legendaryupside.com/sidekick.
Got the dynamic rankings tool that we were talking about
earlier. That's that's why I'm not fully
in slow draft tail. And then I'm going to be
sacrilegious as a piece coming out looking at week 16 versus 17
game stacking. And I haven't started writing it
yet, but I am going to do a follow up piece to my my running
back article that I had earlier looking at the early round
running back. So I'm going to be looking at
kind of this pocket and I've I, I don't yet like kind of have
the idea fully fleshed out, which is why I keep talking
about it on podcast in the hope of getting there.
But I want to do something with like marrying some of these
structures that we've gotten used to in different contexts
and bringing them into this context and see if there's ways
that we can kind of modify like what is a hero running back
build in this in this content? What is a hyper fragile build
really now you know that that type of stuff.
So I'm, I've been kind of experimenting with builds and
trying to combine them in some more interesting ways and think
outside the box in that way. But if I get there, I'll write
an article about it. Yeah, that'd be great.
Your rankings pod reminded me. I'm having Daniel Razz from
Legendary Upside on Best Ball After Dark on Saturday.
Excited to talk to him. Have really enjoyed listening to
him on those pods so that'll be fun to learn more.
He had an article on the site recently that was just the intro
to the article is one of the best one of the best article
intros I've read in a while. So that's that's all about the
paywall. So check that out.
Very very fun way to kind of think about this this
environment. The other things for me doing
randomizer tomorrow afternoon, no Thursday show, didn't want to
deal with the presidential debates, yadda yadda.
So I'm going to have Ian on for a special Friday edition.
Also going to be hopping on the Fantasy Sanctuary with Emo
Cowboy and and Tom to draft A-Team.
And then the only other thing I referenced on the Deposit
Kingdom YouTube channel. I did a draft with Liam and it
was a wild draft. I even got out of my seat and
spun around at one point because of the snipe that I did not see
covering. So check that out.
And if you want to see the the aforementioned Lucas Kroll pick
you can check that out on the Deposit Kingdom.
We appreciate you guys. The ADP chasing Bros will be
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Beach towels. No 2% listen, if we can't get
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sheets, which the 2% was was the sheets. 1% is just a beach towel
that you use it as as a blanket, but it doesn't cover your full
body and you freeze on your buddy's couch all night.
That's that's the 1% exposure. It's not enough, but it's.
What I told Pat is if we can sell more than one blanket, I
will start adding other threadbare pieces of.
That's a challenge. That's a challenge to you, the
chat. Please get us we the towel.
I mean, who doesn't want a 1% exposure beach towel?
We just need one. One more it is kind of funny
that like, Can you imagine all these basic football Bros trying
to convince their significant others that like a 4% exposure
blanket blogs on the couch? I think my store would do so
much better if people weren't in, you know, partnerships with
significant others. I think that's the number one
detractor for people to mind. Love, love, human love is the
biggest, biggest issue you're facing.
Even like normal stuff like how am I going to explain to my wife
why I just like bought this coaster that has like a dock
with a bug on it? You know, like.
I know I still need to get my value on that.
I got to get out of here. Appreciate you, ship chasers.
Catch us in the discord. We'll see you guys next time.
Peace.