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Morning and welcome to wintry 
Buffalo, where if yesterday's 

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Broncos Bills game had been 
played today, the snow would 

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have been the story. 
Last year was the other way 

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around. 
They moved the game to Monday, 

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got through it. 
Right now down there, 20 miles 

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South of where I sit, it's kind 
of a mess today on ADP chasing 

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we will whip around Wild card 
weekend. 

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Feels to me like a lot of chalk 
hit, except for maybe 

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Philadelphia. 
We know that most of our entries

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were already going to lose, but 
how many of our entries for this

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year's postseason tournaments 
have already lost anyway, with 

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our heroes Pat Kurain and Davis 
Maddock, I'm Mike Schoeb. 

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It's great to be with you. 
Thanks for watching and 

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listening. 
This is ADP Chasing January 

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13th, 2025. 
ADP chasing is for when you 

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watch ship chasing you go these 
guys are just football guys and 

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the targets for outrun leagues. 
That's going to be really nice 

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actually, back in if it's 
Austinette. 

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It's stared to our crystal ball.
close your eyes. 

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You know all your entries are 
going to lose anyway. 

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Yeah. 
That's fair. 

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This is a Dusvan show. 
It's. 

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Anti cabal. 
It's anti the best ball thought 

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leader. 
I'm obviously lying to some 

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degree because like, I have a 
lot of both of these guys. 

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It's the most disgusting thing 
you can make, but man. 

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Davis, our boy, is ailing. 
Our boys ailing. 

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I I was really sick God, like 
six weeks ago or something and I

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just like when you work from 
home and your job is to talk on 

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a podcast, you you kind of just 
are like, dude, I got to just do

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it. 
But Karain, I I feel for you 

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man. 
I know you're, I know you're, I 

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know you're ailing, but you 
know, at least, at least Justice

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Hills 10 point 5.5 PPR points 
hit our best ball teams right in

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in the God damn mouth. 
Ty Johnson too, I mean. 

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Ty Johnson. 
Yeah, it's about as good as it 

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gets. 
Yeah, really for, for, for 

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people of our Slappy 
proclivities, the only better 

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thing that could have happened 
would have been for Gainwell to 

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to, to get in the box at some 
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But you can't really ask for 
much more. 

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Yeah, there's lots of stuff to 
tilt this weekend, but like, I 

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knew I truly felt appropriately 
at the sickness had like fully 

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gotten to my bones when probably
the biggest thing I tilted was 

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that I drafted too much Mack 
Hollins and not enough Curtis 

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Samuel. 
Yep, Yep. 

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Yeah. 
Can you believe the Ty Johnson 

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play? 
Does it make sense at? 

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All it was so good. 
And yeah, like, how did he? 

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He tilted forward just enough so
that his foot doesn't slide. 

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It's kind of, it's really crazy.
He's celebrating before he comes

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to a stop. 
He's got the ball in one hand 

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and he's got his arm up like 
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He ran 7, a 70 yard wheel route 
maybe like just sort of all the 

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way around and all the way back 
and Allen is just toying with 

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them. 
It's fourth and one. 

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Why isn't he under center? 
Why isn't he just sort of taking

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the obvious 2 yards that he gets
every time? 

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No, he's in the shotgun. 
He's rolling right and he's 

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going to stand there. 
He's going to wait for Ty 

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Johnson to run 70 yards and hit 
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with his knee down and his foot.
But it's, it just what an insane

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play. 
It's one of many. 

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We. 
Used to make cooking there the 

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Kate. 
Let's just listen to the Kate. 

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And that was poetry. 
That was beautiful. 

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I just was sitting back, I 
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Mike, I, I got to, I got to ask 
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the, the bills in the first half
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chiefs fan of just being 
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Like, God, just let him play 
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Just let, just let Josh go do 
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Why it like it 3 possessions in 
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And maybe that was just, that 
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up. 
But was that, were you, were you

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feeling the same as me or you 
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we're just taking care of 
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No, much like you, it's been the
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Bills all year, which is I think
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And Denver is a kick off the 
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and they get Sean McDermott 
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He's like, yeah, a couple of pre
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schedule. 
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on their own 1 yard line just 
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That's how they want to play. 
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not thrive with Cook, you know, 
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yards of pop. 
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years been that they just, why 
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Why would you want that to be 
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Allen? 
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get down early and they still 
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winning easily that way. 
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You know, Baltimore and Kansas 
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going to find out if they can 
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they don't cook. 
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is not going to work against the
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It could work against the chiefs
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to get into second year against 
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bully the chiefs. 
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run defense and so do the 
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But like you know a very good 
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What what does that even mean in
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Bowl like literally means 
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So they like Kansas City has 
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this season. 
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definitely like either the 
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them avoid getting in their own 
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They can like, I think easily 
beat the Chiefs, like like 

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literally easily. 
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Do you agree that one of those 
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is much more likely to get in 
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I mean, I think the Raven, I 
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likely to go into Arrowhead and 
be like, what is this now? 

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Well. 
What, they got to come here 

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first. 
They got to come here first. 

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It's going to be 10° and 
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And you know, the last time they
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about, yeah, I've never seen 
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And they scored three points 
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I did. 
I saw. 

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Our. 
Our, our good friend, friend of 

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the show, Jack Settlement 
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to be wearing sleeves. 
So maybe, maybe he's trying to, 

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to shake some of those demons. 
I don't know. 

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I, I find myself this is where 
I've ultimately landed. 

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I am just an unreliable narrator
on the Josh Allen versus Lamar 

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thing. 
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anything I say about these two 
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another seriously. 
I, I am incapable of not being 

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biased towards Lamar. 
And I think it's mostly an 

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aesthetic thing. 
I think it's mostly just Lamar. 

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Like a four yard Lamar run could
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the game. 
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judgement on Josh Allen, who is 
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I saw a great tweet that said 
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Josh looks like a cement truck. 
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They're just doing it in a very 
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So I get a. 
He's more of a monster truck. 

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Give give the guy credit, he's a
monster truck. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Make him the best truck there 

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is. 
Make him, Yeah, whatever, any, 

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anything like that. 
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To me watching football, 
irrespective of who's, you know,

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who are we rooting for? 
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The the Ravens, Texans game that
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Christmas. 
There's a play where Jackson 

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reads it and gets out to the 
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He goes like 50 for a touchdown 
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There's 2 plays in football that
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that that could be a running 
back, too, but somebody who's 

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like super fast, you can't see 
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don't know what's out there. 
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Is he going to be able to cut 
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the way, whatever that is? 
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And I also love the great 
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whoever, the great edge rusher. 
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Williams game here that I went 
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years ago, whatever that was, 
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These two guys like, can Newton 
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This is more Allen like can he 
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Can the the defensive player win
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the game? 
Those to me are the two most 

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exciting things in football. 
So Jackson offers you that. 

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Allen does too, you know, to a 
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playing against. 
It's just so with the Bills, 

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it's just so easy. 
It's always been so easy. 

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Anything short yardage and the 
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beginning of that game, Pat, I 
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team, but it's like third and 
three and Jackson comes left and

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he's got to do this and then the
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and there were six to 10 plays 
like that in that game that. 

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They end. 
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Should have. 
Scored 45. 

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The The Ravens should have 
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Points. 
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They don't that's I think the 
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when it feels like they are able
to like fully unlock, they're 

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able to hit that like in the 
video game, like when you're 

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like on fire, you know, like 
that they they get to that 

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level. 
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That level exists for them. 
We've seen it and their ability 

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to like hit, you know, the, the,
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They like, know how to do it. 

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The Ravens, it feels like 
they're constantly like, a 

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little short of that now. 
They're like, the thing about 

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them is that they can just, 
like, destroy teams even when 

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they're not. 
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Yeah, even in second gear they 
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For two years. 
Yeah, that's not to say that, 

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you know, that they're not a 
great team, but it's like it's 

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just aesthetically like I'm 
watching the Bills like click on

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all cylinders. 
Like, you know, like they they 

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were putting it all together. 
Even in that Rams loss, you 

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know, you're like, my God, this 
team can score at will. 

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I never really feel that with 
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It's much more, it's more 
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And that that's the part of it 
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like, this is impossible to 
stop. 

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Yeah, the the Henry thing, man, 
I think I'm I'm think I'm like 

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full like boomer running back 
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I'm just like, dude, you know 
what, 49ers, just take Gene T, 

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just do it. 
You know, Broncos, you ready to 

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accelerate the rebuild? 
You ready to win a playoff game 

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next year? 
Just take Gene T. 

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You know, like I, I, I, I'm, I'm
fully because last year, I think

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part of the reason why the 
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the forward run existed against 
the Chiefs was it's taking the 

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ball out of Lamar Jackson's 
hands to hand the ball to Gus 

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Edwards. 
That doesn't feel like a very 

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good trade off. 
But taking the ball out of 

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Lamar's hands to hand it to 
Derek Henry? 

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That feels like a much better 
trade off. 

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I think Davis like that's right 
and I think this is a Jackson 

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thing, like what was frustrating
for them last year in the 

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playoffs, even in the Houston 
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certainly against Kansas City. 
First play of the AFC 

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championship is a 2 yard run 
hand off to somebody. 

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Second play is he gets out to 
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These games, you're the 
Cleveland game they needed for 

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the division. 
The Pittsburgh game, it's 

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immediately Lamar Jackson 
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So that's where like that's the 
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Bills will be ready for that. 
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way I'm not, I'm going to sound 
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Buffalo I get accused of being a
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Like there, there's no way the 
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Baltimore on on Sunday night. 
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Just have have you guys seen 
this tape going around the 

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Internet that this is this? 
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full boomer and I'm going to go 
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There was this this tape going 
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I saw some bills fan saying 
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You just got to smoke Lamar once
he's got it, usually don't. 

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Don't care. 
Don't care about. 

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Basically they're saying don't 
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the read option because that's 
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Henry on the read option. 
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getting 6 yards, like, oh, do 
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And then I would just like to 
ask those people, think about 

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all the times you've watched 
Lamar Jackson play football, how

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many times has the defender 
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Your mind 0 like. 
I can't, I can't really think of

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one time where defender got him 
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picked him up and talked. 
I really can't remember once. 

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I'm sure it's happened, but it 
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there's. 
A that's right, that's right. 

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It's part of his his brilliance.
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And you know, that's that's 
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discussion has been. 
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took it too far as far as the 
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stuff, you know, on the 
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they're they're kind of they're 
closers in in baseball or 

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something. 
The final piece that you add to 

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it. 
Really helps to have a good one 

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you you. 
Notice if you're not good, it 

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just doesn't matter. 
It doesn't matter like it 

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doesn't matter like, oh, you're 
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like well, you suck so who 
cares? 

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You know, and I think but 
Derrick Henry, you know, the 

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idea of like, oh, I just got to 
hit Lamar once. 

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Well, that means you're focusing
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Henry, which might be horrible 
for you there. 

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If you focus on on anything but 
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the ball, that can be an 80 yard
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So and that's, I mean, the Henry
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them. 
I do, I do still kind of hold 

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steady on like this draft class 
is bad enough or maybe Gene T is

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going to be fine wherever he 
goes, But you you know, it's not

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it's not particularly strong. 
It like it's there's like no 

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tackles in it. 
Like it's not a good class. 

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There's no quarterbacks or 
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So like, you know, there's the 
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are kind of not there. 
But generally, I think if you 

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have a chance, like you're not 
signing Derrick Henry over a 

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really strong tackle who's 
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know, it's like, it's money 
that, yeah, you, you, you know, 

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like you get a safety, you get a
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back, Like, OK, get a running 
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And Henry's been amazing for 
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Well, well, that's right. 
Ronnie Stanley has played every 

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game after a season where he was
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The Bills offensive line, none 
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Like they never get hurt and 
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Baltimore's. 
And again, now we have James 

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Cook 5 yards every time. 
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the overall dilemma I find with 
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Like can you really, do you 
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Is that how this is going to be?
And then Cook within that, is 

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this really a guy who can just 
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yards of pop? 
But yesterday he was, and I'm 

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not sure how eager you guys are 
to talk about next year, but 

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what what is Cook then? 
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heard you, Pat last week, you 
guys were on so much. 

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And I was right with you when 
you were talking on I think it 

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was Friday night's show. 
Just I don't think I want to 

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roster James Cook like just you,
you have Alan, but OK, what's 

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the pivot in FFPC anyway in that
context? 

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And I I was right there too, but
that was a yesterday worked. 

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It worked. 
I mean, I have lots of cook in 

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playoff basketball, but it was 
more like so the context I was 

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saying that is that I'm I'm 
taking one bill. 

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I still don't want cook in the 
FFPCI want Allen, right. 

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I mean, and if you're going now,
I think what I was wrong about 

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is that Lamar Cook is probably 
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Lamar wins it maybe because it's
possible that the let's let's 

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see how Jane Daniels does. 
I think you'd rather have Josh 

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Henry. 
I think that if you offered me 

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the two, I think that is the the
combo. 

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Well, yeah, if the bills. 
Depends on who wins if the 

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Bills. 
Win for sure. 

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But what if the Ravens win? 
You still might. 

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You still might. 
You still might want Josh Henry.

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Still might. 
Yeah, I went to Kincaid, Pat, I 

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went to Kincaid Overcook. 
Oh, that's see, that is pure 

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homerism. 
No, it is not you. 

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No it. 
Is not Mike I Mike I played 

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Kincaid on on one of my 200 
teams too and I just. 

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Like I watched the game because 
you know, the Rube gold machine 

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stuff that they don't do it on 
the trick plays to your point 

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show. 
But they, you know, they they're

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doing this thing where Allen 
would drop back and he'd like 

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hand, he'd like fake a hand off 
and then he'd like spin around 

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real quick. 
I was like, what is going on? 

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What's the point? 
So he did that. 

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He spun around and then he like,
look, he like looked like he was

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gonna throw deep. 
And then he like threw like 4 

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yards to Kincaid on like a 
cross. 

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It, it almost seemed to be like 
coming back toward the 

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quarterback. 
It's such a weird route. 

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And then he like slid down. 
I just I knew Davis was laughing

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his ass. 
Off the guy played fewer snaps 

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than the fucking third tackle. 
I mean it's just like we gotta 

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be I and I am saying this to 
myself because I keep wasting 

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money on Kincaid. 
I just I keep doing it because 

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in the back of my head I kind of
believe Liam. 

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Like in the back of my head I'm 
like, maybe Kincaid really just 

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has gotten unlucky, you know? 
But that game yesterday, I was 

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like, dude, Dawson Knox just is 
better than him. 

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Just like straight like Dawson 
Knox is just a he's a much 

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better blocker. 
And then Knox gets wide open, 

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shakes the safety off for the 25
the the the 25 yard gain. 

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I'm like, dude, Knox just a 
better football player, man. 

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He just is. 
Well fine, but I mean Kincaid 

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had a three for 47 thanks to a 
35 yard catch that shouldn't 

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have counted. 
Which puts. 

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I mean Zach Ertz caught 2 
passes. 

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We liked that a little bit. 
Otten. 

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Nobody was talking craft. 
What were we supposed to do? 

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Did he had a Did he had a play 
that wasn't reviewed? 

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Yeah, 'cause the cause the Bills
never miss cause one of the 

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Allen points is they never miss 
the edges. 

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Like they sprinted up. 
Denver was down in the 

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second-half. 
Don't throw the challenge flag, 

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it's over. 
Counts fine, put it in the book.

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So I mean, you didn't get the 
game. 

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Kincaidif was always a bet 
against tight ends. 

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Andrews caught 2. 
Four points ertz 2 catches. 

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I don't know, Kelsey. 
I think the tight end you want 

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in the FFPC probably has not 
started playing his games yet. 

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I think right now Travis Kelsey 
is getting, you know, he's, he's

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getting the blood spun in his 
knees. 

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Travis Kelsey has not had to 
play football in 24 days and 

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really didn't even have to play 
in the Christmas Day game, 

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right? 
I mean, he did. 

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He got a touchdown. 
But like, you know, that is just

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so much rest for an old team. 
It's crazy. 

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And then, well, maybe not. 
They're 7 1/2 point favorites 

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against the the Texans. 
Yeah, they just, you know, 

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handled them easily at home 
Gotter. 

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I mean, I like Hawkinson 
actually as a as a pivot too. 

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We'll see about him tonight. 
But Goddard got in Philadelphia.

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Was, was I right in the open? 
Was Philadelphia the one team 

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that sort of didn't deliver of 
the chalk? 

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I mean the 4-5 game. 
Goddard got 14 and half PPRI 

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think but like bar I mean you 
want to talk about a playoff 

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best ball swing? 
Barkley kneeling on that play 

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instead of scoring A70. 
Yard Touchdown I. 

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Mean that's probably that's 
probably like how many how many 

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Eagles chief stacks didn't how 
many how many Mahomes Barkley 

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starts went from they would have
easily advanced in two out of 

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six yeah to easily not 
advancing. 

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One out of six on DraftKings, my
God. 

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That killed. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, the Mahomes, the Mahomes 

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Barkley start would have been 
the absolute nut. 

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You had to, well, not you had to
have it, but you really wanted 

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to have it to like it's, it's 
really, it's, it's gonna be hard

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to advance Chiefs pieces if the 
Vikings do not do really well 

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tonight because a lot of the NFC
sides you would have paired with

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them did pretty poorly. 
Like Baker. 

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Baker did not do very well. 
I guess Jayden and Maclaurin did

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well. 
It'll be easier to advance lions

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because, like, I had a lot of, 
like, not a lot of good amount. 

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Yeah, well, Henry, Henry. 
I did like Goff Henry mix that 

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in and then you then you you 
added like Bateman and stuff. 

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So you'll be you'll be OK think 
with lions, especially if you 

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did to any Texans from. 
That Houston, right? 

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Right, yeah, and LAD, I mean, 
and LAD was obviously massive. 

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The discord was saying this 
morning, or at least somebody on

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there was like that Goth Henry 
was the nuts at 6-7. 

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Yeah, Goth Henry was the nuts. 
If you if you took if you took 

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Bateman, like Bateman scorer 
probably counted a lot for them.

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Well, it's going to be someone 
in the chat just said it. 

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It's going to be really like if 
the Rams super smash in a loss, 

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like if, if Puka and Kyron and 
Stafford and like even cup gets 

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like 11. 
You know, in a loss, it's just 

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the whole bracket is just going 
to be messed up because Puka and

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Kyron were expensive. 
They were they were. 

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Puka was the but closed in like 
the third round and played with 

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the. 
Ball almost second. 

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And he was. 
He was. 

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He would have flipped Jefferson 
if you gave it another week, I 

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think. 
I, I ended up being really light

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on the chargers and the Rams 
relative because I'm like these 

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teams, particularly the 
Chargers. 

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I'm like, the chargers are 
literally drawing dead to give 

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me points in the Super Bowl. 
Like just they're, they're I, I,

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I did my, my 80,000 simulations 
and the chargers don't make it 

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to the Super Bowl once. 
So I just was super like lad, I 

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I'm sorry, man, wide receiver 14
for a guy whose Super Bowl 

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projection is 0. 
I just I don't know, maybe I'm 

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playing the game wrong and maybe
play at best ball is far from 

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salt, but I just it's like, 
dude, I'm not taking Ladd 

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Mcconkey over even like Isaiah 
likely, you know, like. 

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How shocking? 
How shocking was 4 picks from 

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Herbert? 
Was it shocking? 

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Was it not He threw 3 all year? 
You're you're asking another 

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unreliable Herbert narrator. 
Might be might be better to go 

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to Pat on that one. 
I last week we talked about this

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and I'm like, you know, isn't LA
the one team that could beat 

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Kansas City? 
And you're like I mentioned it 

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on GR a couple times this week, 
Like they just don't have enough

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good players. 
They just don't. 

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They just do. 
They couldn't block. 

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They couldn't block the Texans. 
I mean, the Texans have a really

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good defense that the Texans 
have a really good pass rush. 

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Like that, they when they get 
ahead really good when they get 

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ahead, right? 
Yeah, I mean, but you know, 

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their numbers all season, like 
they've had, they've let they've

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had let downs, but like 
throughout the whole season it's

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been you know, it's a right at 
the games and stuff. 

446
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,480
It's like the Texans are good 
defense, good pass rush. 

447
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,440
You know, they can they can hurt
you. 

448
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,640
And I guess my thing with 
Herbert is like, it's one of 

449
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,120
those situations where like, had
they missed the play offs, had 

450
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:12,000
the had the Bengals gotten in, 
they drop the game and you know,

451
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,400
they don't make the play offs, I
think people would go, look, I 

452
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,400
mean, maybe don't give this guy 
rookie wide receiver as his 

453
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,200
number one wide receiver. 
Like lad's really good. 

454
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,400
But like, let's build around 
this guy and and set him up for 

455
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,760
success a little bit more. 
Like even JK Dobbins had a 

456
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,960
surprisingly good season. 
But like, what if he didn't? 

457
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,000
You know this is this is how you
team build. 

458
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,680
Good point, good point. 
The the Chargers had a winning 

459
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,800
season. 
I mean, they were around even 

460
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,360
money to make the playoffs. 
They do now. 

461
00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:42,760
It's more just sort of like the 
Chargers are still the Chargers.

462
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,120
They lose in the playoffs, but 
what was to what you said, Pat? 

463
00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:47,360
What was their goal? 
Like? 

464
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,840
What was the Chargers blueprint 
this year? 

465
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,840
What was it supposed to be in 
the offseason? 

466
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,680
It was it's Greg Roman. 
So they're going to run the ball

467
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,880
forever, you know, constantly 
and maybe Dobbins, Vidal, right,

468
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,240
all of that. 
And they got there. 

469
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,040
I mean Johnston had a couple of 
spike week games and they got 

470
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,080
there anyway, but and end up 
losing by 20 to a pretty bad 

471
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,520
Houston team in the playoffs. 
I don't know, like what was it 

472
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,960
supposed to? 
What was their idea of what the 

473
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,640
season would be before it 
started? 

474
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,960
I think to me, I think this year
was about Harbaugh establishing 

475
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,760
and his identity, you know, 
putting his fingerprints on the 

476
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,560
team and kind of getting like, 
like steering the ship towards 

477
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,000
like the direction that he wants
to take this franchise. 

478
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,280
Have it more be about like 
building through the trenches. 

479
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,400
And you know, like they just 
they were not they could have 

480
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,400
had neighbors, you know, like 
this team could have had like 

481
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,720
neighbors on it. 
And they were like, no, we're 

482
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,040
going to be we're going to focus
on building through the 

483
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,200
trenches. 
So that may ultimately prove to 

484
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,960
be the right move. 
But in my mind, it's kind of a 

485
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,080
little bit of a slower, like a 
like a more long term view, 

486
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,520
which you've got a young 
franchise quarterback. 

487
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,760
So maybe that's prudent and and 
it's going to pay off in a big 

488
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,640
way. 
But yeah, I just this year, like

489
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,920
I was it's really drafted. 
Think about where we took 

490
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,280
Herbert in playoff there in in 
regular best ball, you know, and

491
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,240
and in regular fantasy leagues 
like like this team is not going

492
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,400
to have any juice on offense 
like they just don't have any 

493
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,920
weapons. 
So and. 

494
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:23,800
That was right. 
Yeah, it was until until lad 

495
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,760
broke out and and and looks like
he's going to be a star, but OK,

496
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,480
he's still a rookie and one guy.
And Quentin, you know, Quentin 

497
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,160
Johnson's revival, I put like 
partly on Herbert, partly on 

498
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,080
partly on them not having anyone
else and then needing him to do 

499
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,200
it. 
And then, yeah, he's been a 

500
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:47,440
little bit better this year. 
But like, yeah, it's this is not

501
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,120
there's certain teams where 
you're like, everything was in 

502
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:52,800
place for you, man. 
This, this was your shot, this 

503
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,360
was your year. 
And and you threw 4 picks. 

504
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,680
Like what the hell? 
This to me couldn't, it's harder

505
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,440
to be like further from that for
her. 

506
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,560
Like this was, this was house 
money. 

507
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,600
This was house money for her 
work. 

508
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,120
Now he blew. 
He blew it with the house money.

509
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,920
He put it, he put it all, he put
it all on double zeros and. 

510
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,720
Double zeros did not did not. 
I mean, great. 

511
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,320
We we talked about this, we 
talked about this on Friday on 

512
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,000
the on the leg up preview. 
We said it. 

513
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,480
You know, they're, they're like 
the NBA team that just like 

514
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,280
unexpectedly is in the second 
round in the, in the conference 

515
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,560
semifinals. 
And they didn't even, they were 

516
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,760
like, what how do we? 
And then they just get shit 

517
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,320
canned by just a more veteran, 
more experienced team, which is 

518
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:40,080
exactly what happened. 
Now is Justin Herbert what 

519
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,960
people on TV and like big NFL 
want to tell you he is? 

520
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,480
No, you know he's not. 
Justin Herbert is just simply 

521
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,600
not what like Dan Orlovsky and 
these guys tell you he is. 

522
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,320
Like he just is too 
inconsistent. 

523
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,760
I think it might even be a 
mechanical thing, but. 

524
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,120
You know who he's going to be. 
He's he's shaping up to be the 

525
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,120
the new Philip Rivers. 
I was going to say Troy, not 

526
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,000
Troy. 
Tony Romo, Yeah. 

527
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,480
Tony Romo. 
Yeah, he's more stylistically 

528
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,560
similar to Romo, but like that 
kind of that guy that one of the

529
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,640
powerhouse quarterbacks in the 
league could just like it. 

530
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,600
Never he. 
He he's like. 

531
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,400
Tony Romo, but in Mahomes 
Division. 

532
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,360
Yeah, I. 
Mean he's clearly like the 8th 

533
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:25,160
best quarterback or something, 
you know OK yeah Lost cosmonaut 

534
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,120
is right. 
It is more the guys who just 

535
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:30,560
like watch a lot of the game and
I can see why if all you do like

536
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,360
you just watch, you're just 
like, oh, I just like to watch 

537
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,280
the game. 
Why Why you love him so much? 

538
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,080
Because he looks cool. 
He just look he just like looks 

539
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,200
really cool playing the game. 
But like you know, next year I 

540
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,360
saw age 27 season. 
Yeah, I bought into a narrative 

541
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,240
this year that like I like I 
mentioned last week with them, 

542
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,440
he just sort of took over a 
couple of games down the stretch

543
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,040
and sort of this is I've got the
coach, I, I, I've got this. 

544
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,720
And the Texans might have been 
like a as good a draw as you 

545
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,360
could hope for. 
I thought he might have been 

546
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,960
hurt early in this game. 
He was shaking his elbow a 

547
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,000
couple times and then he was 
really missing before the 

548
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,720
onslaught started. 
He was just really missing. 

549
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,560
So that that might be true. 
He. 

550
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,880
He. 
Might be he, might be Stafferty 

551
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,080
I I could see, I. 
Could see. 

552
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,240
I could see Stafford and it's 
like, it's like it took Stafford

553
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,480
a long time to get his due and 
the ball knowers have always 

554
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,200
liked Stafford more than the 
numbers based analysts for for 

555
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,240
as long as he's been in the NFL.
Right. 

556
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,840
And he put, he put the stats up 
on bad teams. 

557
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,880
Herbert will not have that and 
he's not going to be a guy that 

558
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,600
gets compared to Stafford in 
terms of stats, but maybe. 

559
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,280
Although look, man, I mean, 
things could turn around like 

560
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,200
they, the Chargers take Luther 
Burden and it turns out Luther 

561
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,200
Burden is good. 
They sign a competent outside 

562
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,800
wide receiver and they don't 
have Will Disley as their 

563
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,360
primary tight end. 
And they take, you know, there's

564
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,000
a great, there's a great running
back class. 

565
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,760
They could probably do what The 
Jets did last year, take 283 

566
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,600
guys and they're both good. 
I'm like, all of a sudden you're

567
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640
like, oh, the Chargers scored 25
points a game and they look 

568
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,920
awesome and they won 10 games 
and Kansas City thought maybe 

569
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,680
they weren't going to win the 
division for a little bit. 

570
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,160
Like it's totally well. 
If I were, if I were his agent 

571
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,360
Davis, if I were Justin 
Herbert's Herbert's agent, I 

572
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,040
would immediately enter the 
transfer portal and look for a 

573
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,120
team in the NFC that might have.
That's isn't it so funny. 

574
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,120
It's like I remember this when 
Brady was doing his will. 

575
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360
He won't he right of like, oh, 
where's he going to sign? 

576
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,640
I was like Brady, brother. 
I know Brady Sharp, Brady's 

577
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,880
going to the NFC and then of. 
Course Rogers. 

578
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Rogers exact opposite Rogers 
will he, won't he? 

579
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,000
It's like I know Rogers is is 
just he just doesn't think so. 

580
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,680
He's going to the AFC for sure. 
Rogers just does not think 

581
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,880
through the permutations. 
And that is, of course, that is 

582
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,960
exactly what happened, you know?
Well, in the in the Denver 

583
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,880
Buffalo game, they spent a 
minute on like, OK, Bo Knicks, 

584
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,360
right? 
I mean, nice, cool, pretty good.

585
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,280
Alan Mahomes Jackson is your 
gauntlet to the Super. 

586
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,960
Bowl, I think. 
I think those guys are basically

587
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,640
the only quarterbacks who matter
right now in the current NFL. 

588
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,320
They're the only ones who are so
good you could drop them 

589
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,280
anywhere. 
Any teammate, any coach. 

590
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,720
I think everyone. 
Else, I think Burrough, 

591
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,840
Burrough, if you gave Burrough a
better defense this year, I mean

592
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,320
Burt and he can knock off the 
Chiefs, he could, he can make 

593
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,080
noise. 
The sacks are so problematic, 

594
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,840
they're they're. 
He has beaten them all. 

595
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,640
I mean, he's beaten Allen in the
playoffs. 

596
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,560
He's beaten Holmes in the 
playoffs, but. 

597
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,760
The sacks are bad. 
He's there too. 

598
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,720
The sacks are bad. 
The offensive line is not great 

599
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,360
and he takes sacks. 
Even if he even if he even if he

600
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,200
had a great offensive line, he 
would still take sacks. 

601
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,080
That's took sacks. 
In the greatest like college 

602
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520
football offense of all time, 
Like it's just a it's just a 

603
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,720
stat the quarterbacks kind of 
own. 

604
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,400
So I wouldn't disagree he 
matters, but I think he is 

605
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,800
because of the sax. 
Just like a smidgen of a tier 

606
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,880
lower than those guys. 
Interesting for Stroud here. 

607
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,360
I mean, pretty good day for him.
And a year ago we were all in 

608
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,920
love, lost in the playoffs. 
OK, not all of us. 

609
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,360
I so, I mean, I'm not trying to 
write, I'm not trying to write 

610
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,960
his obituary or anything, but 
like he was fine in that game. 

611
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,840
I don't I I did not come away 
from. 

612
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,360
That game, he was horrible in 
the beginning. 

613
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,440
I was like, Oh my God, they're 
going to, they're going to blow 

614
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,240
this. 
Yeah, that dumb, that dumb play 

615
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,960
with the wasn't a bad snap 
either. 

616
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,160
He dropped it and then chased it
down and the charger just sort 

617
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,720
of froze. 
And that was how about? 

618
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,320
How about? 
The first interception, well, 

619
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,600
who was he even throwing to? 
I don't. 

620
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,920
Know man. 
Well, he gets he gets Mahomes 

621
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,600
this week and all you want is an
opportunity. 

622
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,600
He's got it. 
If the Chiefs, if the Chiefs 

623
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,000
lose that game. 
Continuing the the storied 

624
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880
tradition of my showing you guys
my drafts. 

625
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,120
I, I, I put so I did 19 gauntlet
teams. 

626
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,840
Is that good? 
I I I guess I didn't have time 

627
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,680
for 20, but I did 19 and. 
That would drive me crazy Mike 

628
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,040
to to see. 
The odd number. 

629
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,880
The odd number. 
Yeah. 

630
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,480
Well, this was my I thought my 
worst I I label all these teams 

631
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,640
I've got if you guys can can 
find it up here. 

632
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,280
This was like my least favorite 
because you sort of make plans 

633
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,280
and. 
Share your screen. 

634
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,640
Pat can. 
Pat can. 

635
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,800
I did. 
Did not. 

636
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Oh. 
There we go. 

637
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,560
There it is. 
Bark. 

638
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,960
Well, I mean very good, very 
good, very good advance rate 

639
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,680
What? 
What's? 

640
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,320
Quarterback. 
Is it Stroud it's got? 

641
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,560
To be, it's got to be Stroud. 
Let's find out, yeah? 

642
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,760
It's I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure.
Yeah. 

643
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,760
It's like, so the six hole was 
really interesting towards the 

644
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,160
end with four of the 
quarterbacks and sometimes five 

645
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,680
of the quarterbacks being gone. 
So those did end up being heavy 

646
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000
advance rate slots. 
Like I mean look you'd rather 

647
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,280
get your $20 back than than not 
get your $20 back. 

648
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,240
But it's like, what's gonna 
that? 

649
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,400
Never made sense. 
What, what choked it here? 

650
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,680
You're not getting your 21st of 
all, it's 25 to enter. 

651
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,200
So if you get $20 back, you've 
already lost money. 

652
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,880
Why not play for something 
unlikely? 

653
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,200
But if you if it happens all of 
a sudden you're like, I think 

654
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,640
I'm have the nuts like if, if, 
if you get an Eagles Texans 

655
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,120
Super Bowl here, you're in great
shape. 

656
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,440
Although do you do you have 
enough Texans? 

657
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,880
I think you might need more. 
Texans or. 

658
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,480
No, he does. 
He's 4. 

659
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,160
Lions, Lions, Texans, Lions, 
Rams, Lions, Eagles. 

660
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,600
He has. 
OK, OK. 

661
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,400
What I did with those teams was 
I did Vikings teams. 

662
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,360
I would, I would, I would, I 
mean sometimes I would, I would 

663
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,800
do, I would do like Bark. 
I would do Barkley, Henry and 

664
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,520
then I would do Addison, Aaron, 
Jones, Darnold, Hawkinson and 

665
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,440
then 2 Ravens, 2 Bills or two 
Chiefs to set up the back door. 

666
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,600
Viking Super Bowl 'cause I still
think the Vikings are are fairly

667
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,400
live. 
Yeah, me too. 

668
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,840
What did we get? 
And let's, I want to go quickly 

669
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,760
at least game by game here if we
can. 

670
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,880
But what did we get out of the 
NFC this weekend? 

671
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,840
Like Philadelphia, Hertz got 
injured and none of those guys 

672
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,679
hit. 
Hurt. 

673
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,800
It's like I, I kind of still 
think the Eagles are the best 

674
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,760
team in the NFC, but Hertz did 
not look great. 

675
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,280
The defense did look really 
good. 

676
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,000
I think, I mean, I think we 
learned that like wins against 

677
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,040
the Packers might not be worth 
that much. 

678
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:49,480
Has anyone I the, the commanders
have won their five most recent 

679
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,920
games, all on the final play 
from scrimmage. 

680
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,880
And I mean, I, I actually like 
don't know, like how did the 

681
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,280
commanders not, or how did the 
Baker only had 18, I guess he 

682
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,360
had 20 drop backs. 
That was crazy. 

683
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,200
I, I guess the commanders just 
kind of ran the air out of ball 

684
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,560
33 team rush attempts. 
Brian Robinson, junior man, if 

685
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,600
you, if you took him as an 
advance rate piece, you are not 

686
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600
feeling that. 
I guess it was the Baker fumble 

687
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,840
that kind of ended up. 
I did more in start. 1st place 

688
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,360
for to head of that game in the 
FPC playoff challenge with a 

689
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,480
team that was a Washington fade 
and had Mike Evans. 

690
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,160
So before that fumble, we're 
like, this is we just need this 

691
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,280
to hold. 
And then we have a a Minnesota 

692
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,680
fade on that team too with 
Reichert and Puka. 

693
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,840
So we're like, you know, this is
looking really good. 

694
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,040
And then once that fumble 
happened, it just they never, I 

695
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,400
mean, you, you, you kick the 
field goal to tie it up and then

696
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,720
never touch the ball again. 
Like it is just such a dagger. 

697
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,200
And then for Terry McMahon to 
also score the touchdown, who 

698
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,080
was really chalky in that 
contest that that crushed me 

699
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120
last night. 
I was like riding high. 

700
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,800
Bucks are going to are going to 
win this game. 

701
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,880
Terry's kind of quiet. 
We're we're in control of the 

702
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,640
FPC playoff contest and the 
team's it's not like definitely 

703
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,320
dead because of the the 
Minnesota fade, but. 

704
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:19,680
Last week. 
Oh. 

705
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,880
My God, we we got this to it's 
probably dead. 

706
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Sorry, last week you were 
talking about catching up on 

707
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Washington, did you not? 
Did I not? 

708
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,920
What? 
In playoff basketball. 

709
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,040
Oh, in playoff baseball I did. 
I maybe not as much as I wanted 

710
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,880
to, but I definitely followed 
through on that as like a point 

711
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,240
of emphasis to get more Terry 
and Jane Daniels is like advance

712
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:47,640
rate pieces. 
But the way they have APCPC 

713
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,960
playoff contest works is even if
you like start with a decent 

714
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,280
monetary and we have like some 
Jayden Daniels teams. 

715
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,920
And so we didn't like the 
initial position was not like 

716
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,920
Washington's going to lose. 
But then you're like, well, 

717
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:04,200
which teams have lad and which 
teams, you know, have, have all 

718
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,920
the pieces have like Josh 
Jacobs, but also have an eagle 

719
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,520
and like, you know, you get down
pretty quickly to like, all 

720
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,080
right, here's the teams that are
looking really strong and what 

721
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,240
do they need? 
And they all needed all they all

722
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:23,160
needed Tampa Bay, like basically
they all needed so that that 

723
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,800
fumble, that stupid, that stupid
play call to get, you know, it's

724
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,240
like this, this plays me really 
cool. 

725
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,600
Unless the snap is slightly 
mistimed, in which case we'll 

726
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,160
lose the game. 
But but man, it'll be so cool. 

727
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,400
So let's call this, you know, on
our on our 15 yard line or 

728
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,000
whatever it. 
Was how about 18? 

729
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,760
Davis mentioned it when you 
stepped away. 

730
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,760
I mean how about 18 passes for 
Mayfield in this game like it 

731
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:54,200
was Evans, Bucky Irving sort of 
made his par and nothing else. 

732
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Like 18185 yards for Mayfield 
after the season he just had. 

733
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,480
It just did not come. 
Yeah. 48 plays Davis, that's 

734
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,880
your area 48 that's so. 
Bad. 

735
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,240
Let me tell you, if I had gotten
wind that the Buccaneers were 

736
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,280
going to run 48 offensive plays,
I would have had probably stone 

737
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,400
0 in right in playoff 
basketball, I don't know. 

738
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,400
It's a playoff best ball it it's
always. 

739
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,960
It's always the ship chasing 
curse was due. 

740
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,880
Yeah, we were celebrating the 
curse being broken, and the 

741
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,400
curse had had one more. 
So I guess. 

742
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:33,160
I guess. 
Ladd is the Ladd is the Jake 

743
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,600
Ferguson this year, compounded 
by the fact that the other Jake 

744
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,320
Ferguson was in the game with 
him. 

745
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,400
Nico, yeah, it's just a it's a 
tough game. 

746
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:50,520
And it's also a particularly 
tough game when you play it the 

747
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,760
way that we think is optimal, 
which is to focus as much as 

748
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,240
possible on winning in the Super
Bowl round. 

749
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,920
It it would be, it would be as 
if in best Ball Mania you, you 

750
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:08,040
were literally actively taking 
guys who would stink early or or

751
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,320
get or get 0 points early like 
on per it's like 0 RB but like 

752
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,520
with no possibility of upside in
the first four weeks or 

753
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,560
something. 
It's it's well, The thing is 

754
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,080
that in regular best ball, 
advance rate still matters. 

755
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,080
Even if we focus a little bit 
less on it, we still want good 

756
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,400
advance rates in play at 
baseball. 

757
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,640
You'd love good advance rates, 
but we're actually like betting.

758
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,200
We're actually like 
intentionally taking on lower 

759
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,880
advance rates because the best 
way to get advance rates are to 

760
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,840
draft teams that are like insta 
dead to win the tournament. 

761
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,840
So we actually are sacrificing 
advance rate relative to our 

762
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,800
opponents. 
And that's where Andrew's like, 

763
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,840
play at. 
Baseball sucks. 

764
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Hang, hang in there. 
This is the week. 

765
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,480
This is the week where it really
does suck because. 

766
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,240
This is the worst week. 
And then every week from now, if

767
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,080
you did it right, you're going 
to be like, holy shit. 

768
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,240
I got 30 teams through and then 
twenty of them got through to 

769
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:01,600
the semi. 
Final, that's the goal, right? 

770
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,720
It's that now we we've like 
taken our medicine and now we're

771
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:09,760
going to start advancing teams 
better than the field and 

772
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,320
potentially like way better than
the field. 

773
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,480
So that's, you know, we'll see. 
We'll see if that actually 

774
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,280
happens, but. 
Depends how many fantasy points 

775
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,080
the Kansas City Chiefs decide to
score. 

776
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,360
This week, yeah, we need some 
chiefs, we need some Lions to to

777
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,840
put up points. 
Yeah, if the if, if the Chiefs 

778
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:32,040
score 17 points and like never 
get out of round one or like 

779
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,400
never, never get out of first 
gear. 

780
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,440
It's it's not, it's not great. 
Yeah, Jordan's asking if 50, if 

781
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,800
150 is good. 
I think. 

782
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,600
I mean, that's that's actually 
expected, but it's very, very 

783
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,400
good if you built the way you're
supposed to. 

784
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,200
I was. 
Going to say it's if you, I 

785
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:54,360
would honestly say if you built 
the way to have as many Super 

786
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,360
Bowl pieces as possible, I'd 
find it very hard for you to 

787
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,920
actually have accomplished that 
because. 

788
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,960
Maybe a lot of Ty Johnson or 
something. 

789
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,640
Yeah, it's hard. 
A lot of Ty Johnson, yeah, you 

790
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,240
could do it if you had like a 
shit ton of Ty Johnson. 

791
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,520
If you guys, if you guys don't 
mind, can I just ask you as like

792
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,480
a relative novice. 
So I've never wandered into grab

793
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,960
kings, that world for fantasy 
underdog for me, FFPC in a it 

794
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,000
reminds me of a a documentary I 
watched about the great Roger 

795
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,600
Ebert, the film critic, where a 
friend of his had said how he'd 

796
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,080
worked a lifetime in Chicago 
when he got this huge offer to 

797
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,720
move to New York City and right 
there for way, way more money. 

798
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,280
And Ebert apparently said, I 
don't want to learn new streets.

799
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,920
At a certain point in life, you 
just don't want to learn new 

800
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,680
streets. 
And I hear you guys talk about 

801
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,640
DraftKings all the time. 
Like those are new movies? 

802
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,080
What? 
No, just that was that was the 

803
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,240
line. 
It's it's sort of a good 

804
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:55,800
metaphor for a lot of things 
just to want. 

805
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,440
To learn new streets. 
I like, I like that line. 

806
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,760
Yeah. 
It's like I don't want to learn 

807
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,400
a whole new city, you know? 
I know, I know about. 

808
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,000
I know about. 
I know Chicago. 

809
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,440
I I totally. 
Get it? 

810
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,440
You don't get it. 
Just like. 

811
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,000
I can't do it, but I mean you 
come on. 

812
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,800
Across the country, you learn 
new streets. 

813
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,400
You are up new streets, buddy. 
You're getting old. 

814
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,600
If you if you don't want to 
learn new streets, you still got

815
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,760
to challenge yourself. 
Keep trying to challenging 

816
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,120
yourself. 
I'm out here. 

817
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,560
I'm out here recording sick. 
I can barely get through get 

818
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,600
through more than two sentences 
without fun coming up. 

819
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,840
You're all about new streets, 
then that's you learn new. 

820
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,800
Streets. 
Karain is a new streets guy. 

821
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,360
I am not a new streets guy. 
What I'll tell you what I'll 

822
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,920
tell you about DraftKings best 
ball is it's just, it's just a 

823
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,360
different atmosphere because you
have people who don't get the 

824
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,040
game that's being played. 
They're they're I would say it's

825
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,040
like this people sort of treat 
DraftKings best ball, both 

826
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,800
playoff best ball and regular 
season best ball like a lottery 

827
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,320
where they're not all that it 
like they don't even want to 

828
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,160
pick the numbers. 
They're just like, ah, sure, 

829
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,080
whatever. 
I'll enter this lottery and see 

830
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,960
if I win later, and then you 
have to deal with that as their 

831
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,720
opponent. 
By the way, Speaking of of of 

832
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:14,160
fighting getting old much, much 
earlier in the show, we had a a 

833
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,920
comet that I traded in my guitar
for my vacuum. 

834
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,560
So that's why I got up earlier, 
traded that, put the guitar back

835
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,520
in place. 
You got up and moved, did you? 

836
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,400
Did you just notice it in this 
in the camera like you just had 

837
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,600
the vacuum? 
Yeah, in the camera people are 

838
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,840
noticing I had a vacuum behind 
me. 

839
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,640
So I, I went and got my guitar 
because I, I watched Ronnie 

840
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,920
Chang special last night and 
he's talking about how you know,

841
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,640
him and his wife are freezing 
her eggs and stuff so they can 

842
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,640
have kids much later. 
So I don't want to have kids 

843
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,960
right now. 
Everyone I know who has kids 

844
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,240
looks like shit. 
I'm like, well, I'm not going to

845
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:48,280
beat those allegations. 
That's I'm probably looking like

846
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,920
shit, but at least, you know, I 
can still show that I, I did not

847
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,680
go full domestic. 
I've still got the guitars 

848
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,640
there. 
Every week we want to see 

849
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,320
something different in that 
corner like the. 

850
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,680
That, that, that would be a 
really good bit. 

851
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,640
Yeah, the. 
Fishbowl in The West Wing The 

852
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,480
fishbowl in The West Wing 
There's always a different 

853
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,800
little item in the fishbowl that
referred to the rest of the 

854
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,360
episode, so. 
We. 

855
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,480
Could do that. 
Well, the idea of going game by 

856
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,120
game, we've covered a few of 
these games pretty well already.

857
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:17,880
I don't remember exactly the 
context but you guys mentioned 

858
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,000
Rashad Bateman earlier. 
I don't know what Flowers is 

859
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,040
going to be going forward. 
Was was Bateman a bet you guys 

860
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,200
wanted to make? 
Yeah, I mean, I just. 

861
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,480
Haven't done playoff baseball 
for sure. 

862
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,280
Yeah. 
Yeah, Flowers is done. 

863
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,160
He, like Rotopat, made this 
point to Pat and I on Friday. 

864
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,000
But like when the guy doesn't 
even pretend to practice, you 

865
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,800
know, for a playoff game. 
That's during they they did, 

866
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,040
they buried the report. 
I think that came out Friday or 

867
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,200
Saturday. 
He has an outside chance to play

868
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,560
in the divisional round. 
He this is a this is a, if they 

869
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,160
make the Super Bowl, we're 
getting a two week run of Zay's 

870
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,960
going to test it out. 
Zay's going to play. 

871
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,680
He might be on a snap count, but
he'll be out there. 

872
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,000
You know that. 
I think we're getting a Super 

873
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,720
Bowl return. 
It's one of those things where 

874
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:10,040
like I drafted, I kept kind of 
drafting Zay obviously at a 

875
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,840
discount, but I kept drafting 
him playing at baseball. 

876
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,240
And Pat said that and I was 
like, yeah, he's right. 

877
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,120
The the, the way this one that 
he's not playing in the 

878
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,240
divisional and he's probably not
playing in the conference 

879
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:21,840
championship. 
Game. 

880
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,800
It's a four week injury, yeah. 
And they, they like, you know, 

881
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,560
Anthony Miller, man, Anthony 
Miller's out there making 

882
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,080
catches in a playoff game. 
How about that? 

883
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,280
Yeah, like the, well, the thing 
that makes it so easy for the 

884
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,840
Ravens is they have two really 
good tight ends. 

885
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,240
You have two really good tight 
ends as a play caller. 

886
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,680
The world is so open to you, 
man. 

887
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,160
It it's really it's it 2 tight 
ends who can both catch passes 

888
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,400
and block. 
And like we like to make fun of 

889
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,280
Mark Andrews, but he can he can 
block like that is the number 

890
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,000
one way to combat the two high 
safety make the like you you 

891
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,440
gonna, you gonna have a like a 
linebacker and I say likely 

892
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,040
doesn't work. 
And a defensive back is like, 

893
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,560
these guys are like literally 
too big for the defensive backs 

894
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,520
to interfere. 
You. 

895
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,440
You actually see this on 3rd 
downs a lot. 

896
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,480
I was actually surprised one of 
the third downs the Ravens 

897
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:22,240
didn't convert was like a third 
and 13 out to Andrews, where 

898
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,000
normally the defensive back is 
literally too small to jump up 

899
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,400
and get through Mark Andrews's 
arms to get to the ball. 

900
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,280
Like normally they're just 
literally not big enough. 

901
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,000
It was a hell of a play. 
Like my God damn. 

902
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,360
Just having two tight ends who 
are good is such a fucking edge.

903
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,600
It's crazy. 
He mentioned likely was that 

904
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,480
unironic last week. 
I hope so. 

905
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,840
He he did, he did make a couple 
of athletic catches in that game

906
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,960
likely. 
So he's good. 

907
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,400
He's good. 
My favorite, my favorite way to 

908
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,080
beat the two high this this past
weekend was that Troy Franklin 

909
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,720
play where they they ran past on
the go route from the scene and 

910
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,760
you're like, wait, we're like, 
you're not supposed to do that. 

911
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,040
What do we do? 
Cool how Denver tried that five 

912
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,960
more times. 
And by 5 more times I mean not 

913
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,200
at all. 
Instead, when they got down 21 

914
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,920
seven, they ran up the middle a 
couple times. 

915
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,240
Yeah, that was that was plastic.
Peyton is like, well I like 

916
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,640
Bonex, but I don't love Bonex. 
We'll keep it close now we'll 

917
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,280
just try to get out of here with
our self respect. 

918
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:30,360
That point, after the Johnson 
touchdown should. 

919
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,280
Have been, should have been. 
Go ahead, Pat. 

920
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Well, you get the Peyton. 
It's like one of those things 

921
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,720
where like you don't like, you 
don't know the score, but you're

922
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,320
like, they get the Troy Franklin
touchdown, they get the fake 

923
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,120
punt. 
You're like Peyton is cooking. 

924
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,840
Then like you, you reveal the 
score. 

925
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:49,920
Oh no, it's, it's not it's just 
the the quality between the two 

926
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,400
teams. 
Let's. 

927
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,080
Just you really don't want to 
have to punt 4 plays after a 

928
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,280
fake punt that works. 
You really don't want to have to

929
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,520
do that. 
But how much Pickens did you 

930
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,760
guys take? 
0 Little anything I, I have them

931
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,880
a little on clip because on 
DraftKings I would go anytime I 

932
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,360
had lions or chiefs. 
Once I got like the full, full 

933
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,200
Super Bowl. 
I just feel like who's going to 

934
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,800
help me advance? 
Who's going to help me advance? 

935
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,040
Like I, it's one of six, like 
you got AI will sacrifice a 

936
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,480
roster spot to, you know, to 
have Gibbs and Amanrat and Goff 

937
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,880
come on in, in Week 2. 
Like give me, give me a few 

938
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,360
A-Team, few teams like that with
a dead picking spot. 

939
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,240
Like yes, so that I, I used him,
I used him for a purpose on 

940
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,320
DraftKings mostly. 
I. 

941
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,120
Think that by the end I was 
taking Quinton Johnson over him.

942
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,800
I just was like the Steelers 
playoff. 

943
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,160
The Steelers equity to beat the 
Ravens is 0% implied probability

944
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,920
in the Davis Matic math model. 
They're they're they could have 

945
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,560
played that game 100 times. 
Steelers were never winning, 

946
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,360
which is like, I don't know, I'm
probably doing it wrong, but 

947
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,960
yeah. 
FFPC Did you guys ever get to 

948
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,360
Pickens? 
I didn't and. 

949
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,080
A little. 
Just a little, yeah. 

950
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,920
Did he end up did? 
Did he end up being necessary? 

951
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,560
Maybe not like a couple of other
losers yesterday. 

952
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,320
Yeah, because there's Pickens, 
there's Evans, there's Jacobs, 

953
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,920
and then you want LAD for sure. 
So yeah, Pickens didn't really 

954
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,920
separate. 
There's like a basket of guys 

955
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,960
that you probably are going to 
need to have one of, but but it 

956
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,240
doesn't have to be Pickens, I 
think. 

957
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,600
And we'll see tonight. 
Good chance one of those two 

958
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,960
teams, the losing team, has 
somebody in that same realm. 20 

959
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,640
points. 
Well, to the to the Eagles stuff

960
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,600
I tend and there's no way to 
prove this point correct or 

961
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,440
wrong, which is why I'm going to
make it the, to me, the Eagles, 

962
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,160
if they get the Rams in round 
two, I think we'll look really 

963
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,160
good. 
You've got you've got a Rams 

964
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,560
team that wants to be balanced 
against a really good run 

965
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,000
defense. 
You have a terrible pass 

966
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,000
protecting offensive line 
against the team that covers 

967
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,880
well and can get to the passer 
and the Eagles defense. 

968
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,200
And then you have a Rams defense
that is bad against the pass, 

969
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,000
but teams have ran on most of 
the year. 

970
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,480
They're kind of like a run 
funnel, sort of like a run to 

971
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,720
set up the pass type of defense 
that that works really well 

972
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:23,080
against them. 
It's a really strong match up, I

973
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,400
think, for the way the Eagles 
want to play and then the way 

974
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,560
the Eagles defend. 
So I think I think we're going 

975
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,640
to feel like the Eagles are 
going to win the Super Bowl if 

976
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,280
they get the Rams in round two. 
But if they get the Vikings, the

977
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,440
Vikings have a good run defense.
They've got a guy on the other 

978
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,760
side and Kevin O'Connell has got
no problem being aggressive and 

979
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,760
taking chances, which I think 
you know the right way to play 

980
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,080
against the Eagles. 
And I love this point. 

981
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,040
You, you, you know, you get a, 
you get an Eagles team that's a 

982
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,080
little overly conservative. 
So are they going to take a 

983
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,160
bunch of chances against the 
Vikings pass defense or are they

984
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,000
going to kind of run into the 
teeth of the Vikings run 

985
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,320
defense? 
So I I really think what we 

986
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,880
think next about the Eagles is 
going to be so dependent on who 

987
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,240
they play next, because these 
matchups are quite different for

988
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:11,520
them. 
I love this point. 

989
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,200
I mean, one thing about tonight 
is Minnesota is coming off a 

990
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,360
very stressful game against 
Detroit. 

991
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,400
They needed it. 
High stakes, they lose. 

992
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,520
Now they have to travel not to 
LA but to Phoenix for this game.

993
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,760
And if it happens that the Rams 
just have more to give, then LA 

994
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,000
flies home, deals with life at 
home at this point. 

995
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:39,240
And then it's Sunday noon body 
clock at Philadelphia in the 

996
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:42,280
cold for a team that's just, 
like always playing indoors. 

997
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,880
Yeah, I think so too. 
I think that's a really smart 

998
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,720
analysis for Philadelphia's 
sake. 

999
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,920
And then did is Detroit happy to
get Washington? 

1000
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,000
Maybe 2? 
I think probably yes. 

1001
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,160
I think Detroit's very happy to 
get Washington very happy. 

1002
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,400
I think it's a good match up for
for Detroit. 

1003
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,960
I mean, Washington's a run 
funnel. 

1004
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,080
They have a a good, not great 
pass defense. 

1005
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,160
But the Lions are not they're 
they're one of the rare run run 

1006
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,120
first teams That's not overly 
conservative. 

1007
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,680
If if Daniels is putting up 
points through the air, they 

1008
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,680
will also take to the air like 
they they will play aggressive. 

1009
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,640
They'll go for on 4th down, as 
we know, you know, they they're 

1010
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,720
not going to they're like most 
of these teams that run and 

1011
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:29,320
that's like built around their 
identity. 

1012
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,760
Their identity becomes running 
the ball. 

1013
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,760
But the the Lion's identity is 
playing to win the game. 

1014
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,560
And the way they're built, that 
usually involves them leaning on

1015
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,440
the run, but it doesn't have to.
So I think it's a really good 

1016
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,880
match because like they're 
they're plan A should be very 

1017
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,880
effective here. 
They they should be able to to 

1018
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,800
pound the rock and then play 
action off of that really well 

1019
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,880
against the commanders. 
And back to the other game. 

1020
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,680
Remember, the Eagles and Rams 
did play this season in LA 

1021
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:02,240
Barkley a smooth 26 for 2:55 and
2:00 in that game against the 

1022
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:08,000
Rams, +4 for 47 through the air.
Yeah, it's terrible for the 

1023
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,880
Rams. 
Like, it it really terrible for 

1024
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,480
the Rams. 
Like you'd much rather, I think 

1025
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,960
go play Detroit Lions. 
Yeah, because at least that you 

1026
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,000
have a chance there of, you 
know, like the Lions are going 

1027
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,240
to have to blitz and do all this
stuff and dial up all this 

1028
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,680
pressure because their front 7 
so banged up. 

1029
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,120
So that's ideal for the Rams. 
You know, that's like the Rams 

1030
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,680
can't protect anybody, but they 
got a smart quarterback. 

1031
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,960
You know, it's boom bust, but I 
would I would much rather play 

1032
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,520
the Lions than the the Eagles if
I'm the Rams. 

1033
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,520
So it yeah, they're. 
Baltimore Buffalo Baltimore 

1034
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:48,200
Buffalo Davis Who wins? 
I got to think about it more 

1035
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Gut. 
Gut is Baltimore is the better 

1036
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:58,360
team, but they're. 
So much they're. 

1037
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,480
Just. 
They're just so much more likely

1038
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,760
of the two teams who's more 
likely to just like do some dumb

1039
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,760
things and just like forget 
their identity and like it's a 

1040
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,240
third and three and they like 
call a screen to Nelson Agalore 

1041
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:16,400
for no reason. 
You know, like I, I, I, I, I I 

1042
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,160
feel pretty strongly that way. 
But like, I don't know, Joe 

1043
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,640
Brady also just like lost his 
mind in the week 4 game too in 

1044
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,960
prime time. 
So like, I don't know, I just I 

1045
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:34,360
feel like both these teams need 
to have a real, you know, 

1046
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,200
apotheosis where they just like 
they meet their they they meet 

1047
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,880
their fears head on and just 
like come through it on the 

1048
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,120
other side. 
So I don't. 

1049
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,160
Know what did? 
You ever see it happen until 

1050
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,640
next week that that's felt 
beating the Chiefs. 

1051
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,880
I mean that that they're waiting
on that I what a. 

1052
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,880
What a loss for the loser. 
I know, I know. 

1053
00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:01,120
Yeah, I, I favor the Bills 
because I think like in power 

1054
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,440
ratings and stuff, you probably 
have the Ravens slightly ahead. 

1055
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:10,000
I wouldn't quibble with that, 
but it is at Bills and I think 

1056
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,560
they're close enough to where 
that gives the Bills a slight 

1057
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,200
edge. 
And then I, I just think about 

1058
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:21,000
like, what team am I feeling 
Like, OK, I've, I've picked this

1059
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,400
team to win. 
There's 3 minutes left in the 

1060
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,040
third quarter and my team's down
10. 

1061
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:31,200
How am I feeling? 
I feel so much better with the 

1062
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,760
Bills. 
Yes, so just. 

1063
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,640
So much better with the Bills, 
like the Bills. 

1064
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,920
And that's, that's like why I, I
think it's very, very close. 

1065
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,320
It's kind of like tiebreaker. 
But to me, it's like the Bills 

1066
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,600
can win in a variety of game 
types where the Ravens, they can

1067
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,440
win again, you know, I'm not 
saying the Ravens can only win 

1068
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,680
from ahead, but I do think 
they're much, much stronger 

1069
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,840
when, you know, they're kind of 
playing their game and playing 

1070
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,320
from ahead. 
Pittsburgh hit a couple of 

1071
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,000
passes, too. 
Like the Bills will do that. 

1072
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,640
Yeah, yeah, they're obviously 
very dangerous. 

1073
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,840
It's just like, I just don't 
think they're quite as dangerous

1074
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:10,520
playing, you know, a little from
behind as the Bills is, is my 

1075
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,640
point. 
Not that they're not dangerous, 

1076
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,000
but that's just they're both 
such good offenses. 

1077
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,960
The defenses, you know, the 
Ravens have really improved to 

1078
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,280
where their defenses looking 
horrible at points this season, 

1079
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,000
but but they've kind of gotten 
that together and they've been 

1080
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,360
strong against the run all year.
And you could, you know, you 

1081
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,720
could say what the Bills like, 
Chuck, do you see the Bills 

1082
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,640
potentially shooting themselves 
in the foot a little bit here 

1083
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,320
with trying to run James Cook 
too much against a good run 

1084
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,080
defense or they going to be 
aggressive enough to win? 

1085
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,720
They that's a good question. 
They might, but the Ravens are 

1086
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,560
not going to get Allen. 
You know, they're not going to 

1087
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,240
get him on one of these plays 
like a pick six you saw against 

1088
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,600
Cleveland. 
Well, I know, but I don't think 

1089
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,520
that happens. 
And I think that could happen 

1090
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,080
for Jackson Davis. 
You have that Sunday night game 

1091
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,320
so entrenched in your mind at 
Buffalo, Baltimore game, that 

1092
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,880
trick play, I think. 
You know, I just, I literally, I

1093
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,920
literally can't shake it, man. 
It's that. 

1094
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,960
It's that play that I cannot 
shake. 

1095
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,720
That was September 29th and you 
could take this as a good thing 

1096
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:16,880
or a bad thing for Buffalo. 
That is literally the Bills last

1097
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,240
lost fumble. 
I take that as a good thing. 

1098
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,600
I mean, I think that the Ravens 
are the better one through 53 

1099
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,760
roster. 
I think Munkin is a very good 

1100
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,280
coach. 
I wonder if one of the things 

1101
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,320
that we will say is that 
actually having Josh just play 

1102
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,360
with like all these shitty wide 
receivers. 

1103
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,560
I saw yesterday. 
I believe no wide receiver 

1104
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,200
played more than 62% of the 
snaps. 

1105
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,320
And I think it was Matt Collins 
who led the most. 

1106
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,880
And maybe we'll end up seeing 
this with the Ravens too because

1107
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:57,040
they Flowers was banged up. 
But like having, you know, and 

1108
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,200
maybe the Chiefs ruined the math
on this, like, this is the 

1109
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,440
rebuilding year for the Bills. 
This was supposed to be the take

1110
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,520
the medicine year. 
Let a bunch of our dead cap go 

1111
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,480
and we'll just, you know, kind 
of see what happens. 

1112
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,800
But having Josh roll out there 
with Keon Coleman, who's like 

1113
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,720
unreliable at best, Kaloshakir, 
who's like a good slot wide 

1114
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,880
receiver, but that is just kind 
of all he is Cooper. 

1115
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,520
I like the idea of adding 
Cooper. 

1116
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,760
I wonder if Hopkins maybe would 
have been the better move for 

1117
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,120
them at their stage in their 
careers because Coleman and 

1118
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,880
Cooper are kind of duplicative 
and they don't really have 

1119
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,120
anyone like Hopkins, just like 
they they just have a bunch of 

1120
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,840
guys. 
They just have, they just have 

1121
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,120
a, they just, you know, Curtis 
Samuel, you know, is, is popping

1122
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,080
out. 
And I wonder if they kind of 

1123
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,600
feel that. 
Well, I wonder if they feel the 

1124
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:50,240
same way that the Packers feel, 
which is when you have a wide 

1125
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,840
receiver won by committee, it 
just means you don't have a guy 

1126
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,720
who could just go win. 
And it's just kind of very hard 

1127
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,400
in the NFL these days to to win 
that way. 

1128
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,520
The Bills are a little bit like 
some of these best ball teams of

1129
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,960
ours where like, you get to this
point and you have it. 

1130
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,040
And here's Samuel, who was hurt 
much of the season, never really

1131
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,360
got entrenched in the offense, 
but he's good, he's healthy. 

1132
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,760
There's no tape and I don't 
know, the Ravens, that's Agalore

1133
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,000
for them. 
Who is that even? 

1134
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,880
At least it's not four years ago
when they dragged Dez Bryant 

1135
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,320
into this game in the playoffs. 
So they're a little bit ahead of

1136
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,480
that, but still like. 
Yeah, yeah, I the thing about 

1137
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,320
this game that bugs me is how 
defining it's going to be for 

1138
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,440
whoever it's going to be. 
So annoying I even as someone 

1139
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,000
who likes to participate in the 
histrionic discourse, which I do

1140
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,200
even, I'm going to be like, I'm 
not saying anything bad about 

1141
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,520
Joshua Lamar unless one of them 
really fucks up then I'll laugh 

1142
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,000
with everyone else. 
But if it's just like they both 

1143
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,640
play well it, it is going to 
suck Pat. 

1144
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,680
It's going to suck because it's 
like they, you know, the Chief, 

1145
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,960
the Chiefs win all these close 
games to get the one seat, you 

1146
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,920
know, and like both these guys 
have had such incredible 

1147
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,640
seasons. 
They deserve to at least make 

1148
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,760
the AFC Championship. 
Their their biggest crime was 

1149
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,000
being born at roughly the same 
time in space as Patrick Holmes.

1150
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,160
Yeah. 
And it's each other, you know, 

1151
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,920
it's like, and then to be in the
same conference, you know, like 

1152
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,000
you could have, you could have 
the the Ravens over in the NFC 

1153
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,000
side and we'd be like, oh, 
they're going to easily, they're

1154
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,280
going to coast. 
To analyzing the 18 draft is the

1155
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,800
gift that never stops getting. 
Into this how much better, how 

1156
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,040
much better is Lamar than Jalen 
Hurts? 

1157
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,040
And I'm a Jalen Hurts guy, but 
how? 

1158
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,280
He is. 
He's a lot better, yeah. 

1159
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,280
He's like, he's like three times
better of a player than Jalen 

1160
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,080
Hurts, four times better or 
something. 

1161
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,280
He's a lot better. 
Here we go. 

1162
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,960
It'd be a great weekend, Pat 
Feel better. 

1163
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,080
What do you take? 
What do you do for a cold? 

1164
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,120
Like what's mine is the Alka 
seltzer, fizzy orange things 

1165
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,920
that you know, you stir in the 
water and then drink. 

1166
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,320
That's my #1 cold. 
Cold medicine draft Cold 

1167
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,240
medicine rankings. 
Dayquil dries, dries it all up 

1168
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:08,000
to me, nothing better than when 
the it's like a wind. 

1169
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,920
It's like it's, it's in the 
middle of winter and it's been, 

1170
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:16,320
it's been cloudy and kind of 
drizzling little snow. 

1171
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,280
It's like it's terrible snowing 
now, you know, just a few little

1172
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,240
flakes come down. 
What the Hell's going on? 

1173
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,280
And then all of a sudden the sun
just comes out and it's like one

1174
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,240
in the afternoon. 
It's like I had a little heat to

1175
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,400
it and you just like let it hit 
your face for a few minutes. 

1176
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,120
That's me. 
The day quilt. 

1177
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,960
It's it just the sinuses are 
open. 

1178
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,360
I can breathe through the nose 
again. 

1179
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,000
The orange caplets? 
Is that the word? 

1180
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,800
The Orange Day quilt. 
Yeah, they're way too big. 

1181
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,600
They're just way, way too big. 
Way too big. 

1182
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,440
Way too big, I think those 
orally, yeah. 

1183
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,000
I, I, I lived in, I lived in the
East Coast in, in, in New York 

1184
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,400
for, you know, decades. 
OK, I can say this even though I

1185
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,320
now live in city. 
You go. 

1186
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,440
You got to. 
Just east. 

1187
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:02,360
Coast you got to just jam zinc, 
vitamin C and bone broth I I 

1188
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,080
when. 
I'm Oh, bone broth's a good tip,

1189
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,640
yeah. 
When I'm, when I'm sick, I buy 

1190
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:11,680
the big I'll, I'll show you guys
exactly what I buy and I drink. 

1191
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:19,080
I drink about 42 fluid ounces of
of this and it gets you back or 

1192
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,040
32 oz. 
I drink, I drink this, this 

1193
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,480
whole thing, but beef, beef, 
beef bone broth. 

1194
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:32,040
I'm literally writing down Davis
Matic cold recipe, you know, 

1195
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,000
ideas. 
You are you'll. 

1196
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,600
You will be. 
You'll be I I. 

1197
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:37,920
Generally the chat is not 
convinced. 

1198
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,080
The chat is not conveyed. 
Yeah, God. 

1199
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,800
God forbid God. 
Forbid so bad about it. 

1200
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,400
You, well, this is you. 
You don't don't start sharing 

1201
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,920
alternative medicine with people
online manner they'll they'll 

1202
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,240
they'll. 
Bone broth's good for you, man. 

1203
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:54,400
It's got a lot of good stuff in 
it. 

1204
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,440
Who doesn't like bone broth? 
You, you cook with it. 

1205
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,680
Is that, like you said, pig's 
blood or something like that? 

1206
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,520
I mean, it's not pig's blood. 
Bone broth, Bone broth gravy. 

1207
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,080
It's delicious, right? 
It's. 

1208
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,080
Literally zinc. 
It's literally delicious. 

1209
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,000
Like it's like actually like 
you'll, you'll put it in the, 

1210
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,840
you'll put it in the microwave 
or on the stove or whatever and 

1211
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,280
you put it back in the glass and
you drink it. 

1212
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,320
It's like, delicious. 
It's honestly delicious. 

1213
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,480
Yeah. 
It's not like it's not like 

1214
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,560
liver or something where it's 
got like, you know, that taste 

1215
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,080
bud. 
It's it's. 

1216
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,560
You got like salt. 
There's, there's salt. 

1217
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,720
It's it's, it's really, it's 
really good. 

1218
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,280
I'm open to it. 
I'm I'm fully, I'm fully and I'm

1219
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,120
going to get it. 
It's, it's Gatorade. 

1220
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,520
It's Gatorade from nature. 
It's literally, it's doing the 

1221
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,840
same thing for you. 
The Gatorade's doing. 

1222
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:39,200
It's it's getting, it's getting 
magnesium, potassium and sodium 

1223
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,560
back in your body, which is what
you need when you're sick. 

1224
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,920
Maybe maybe somebody is just 
anti zinc. 

1225
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,800
We don't even we're assuming 
it's the bone broth that's the 

1226
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,640
problem. 
Maybe there's just anti there's 

1227
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,480
an. 
Anti Zinc. 

1228
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:52,840
Zinc. 
Zinc. 

1229
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,000
Yeah, You want, You want. 
Wasn't the zinc stuff overblown?

1230
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,480
I thought this thing was 
debunked. 

1231
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:03,240
It's the the thing that actually
gets the the thing that's 

1232
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,160
actually overblown is vitamin C 
once you're already sick. 

1233
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,480
OK. 
You you want to take it like you

1234
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,680
want to have like vitamin C, 
like if you are a supplement 

1235
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,120
person do it then once you 
already get sick it's actually 

1236
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:19,440
not that helpful for you. 
Bone bar I wish every day fast, 

1237
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,400
also good. 
If you are sick, if you are sick

1238
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,280
and you fast, generally speaking
pretty good for you. 

1239
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,680
I wish we, I wish we could have 
closed on. 

1240
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,280
But I might die on stream, so 
that'll that'll be a test of of 

1241
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,080
if it's good to eat 'cause if I 
die on the. 

1242
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,680
Stream you should have. 
I wish we could have closed on 

1243
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,200
wasn't the zinc stuff overblown?
But we didn't quite, you know, 

1244
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,400
stick the landing when it. 
Comes to that hard, hard to 

1245
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,680
close the show with Pat and I. 
We, we, Corrine and I did 

1246
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,000
another show on Friday together 
and someone in the comments said

1247
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,440
these guys are real show 
elongators. 

1248
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,560
That that's just, that's just 
kind of what we do. 

1249
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,000
We just, we'll just, we just, we
just, you know, we can't help 

1250
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,800
but. 
You guys are tough to close a 

1251
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,640
show with, really is. 
That you. 

1252
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,080
Telling me that you think so? 
Yes. 

1253
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,920
We are, yeah, Mike, no, because 
someone of the comments said 

1254
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,080
that. 
Do you not think that as the 

1255
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,240
host? 
I think we are doing, I think we

1256
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,040
are doing just fine. 
And these little tangents are my

1257
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,120
favorite part of of watching you
guys wherever it is. 

1258
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,920
Thank you boys. 
Feel better, Pat Good luck 

1259
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,080
tonight and we'll talk next week
for Pat Crane and Davis Maddock.

1260
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,720
I'm Mike Shope, ADP chasing. 
Talk to you later.