Good morning, Earth Day. Today we celebrate one of the
great planets, arguably the best, here on the banks of the
upper Niagara River. I'm Mike Schobe.
Our heroes, Pat Kerrain, Davis Maddock, Jacob Sanderson will
join me shortly. The countdown is on to the NFL
draft. What are we doing here?
We're always trying to correctly predict trends and what will
happen with the rookies in mind. Again this week the headliners,
Gente, McMillan, Hampton, Travis Hunter.
Of course, then also that day 2 to day three.
Kind of a Cliff where it can determine somebody gets a real
role or instead they become a long shot.
April 22nd, 2025. I'm like Shope with Jacob Davis
and Pat. Here we go, ADP chasing welcome.
In Underdog Best Ball, ADP is set by two separate yet equally
important groups. Streamers that set the market
and the slappies that chase it. These are their stories.
Before the show, even if it is an hour and a half to two hours
long, as usual, before the the thing gets away from us.
Let me do the one thing nobody's doing these days is literally
one time mention the name Gabe Davis.
Yeah, 82O1 and 4I. I forget Davis, how the game
ended, but historically good playoff game.
He's just turned 26. I also forgot how that game
ended. Yeah, my TV.
My TV cut out shortly after that, yeah.
What happened the next week? I was thinking about that, too.
It's a blur. It's all a blur.
But does does Davis really have to Gabe Davis really have to be
dust just turning 26? He's going to get, he's going
to, he's going to get cut. Any anytime the GM mentions
Parker Washington before you, you're you're gone now.
Maybe that could be the best thing for him.
Gabe Davis with the Chargers, Gabe Davis with the Bengals,
Gabe Davis with the Cowboys. I think these are all places he
could more or less work out, but it sounds like the Jaguars are
ready to move on. How how penal is the the cut?
Like maybe he's a guy that's sort of stuck in Jacksonville.
I don't know. But kind of sad like Bill's fans
soured on him his last season here.
He played played with an ankle injury and didn't really
produce. But big game Gabe.
I mean, he had some. Oh, you're the Gabe Davis people
are not going to like to hear this.
They actually don't really save that.
They don't save anything. They can't really do it.
Yeah, if they, if they cut him before June 1st.
I've never seen this for a player of his caliber before,
$13 million of dead cap. If Gabe Davis gets cut, that's
not going to happen. If he gets cut after, it's still
not great. It's it's probably manageable,
but why would the GM not mention his name knowing?
Was the coach. Well, I maybe the coach just has
no idea how much money he's getting paid.
I guess that that could be pretty possible.
Yeah. I mean, they bring in Diami
who's, you know, going to, it's like he's starting in that role
and they've got Parker Washington, they've got Brian
Thomas, obviously, maybe they draft somebody.
I do think with the like, he's going to be there because of the
contract, right? So Diami Brown's not that good.
So I don't know. Actually classic NFL team stuff
is like you try to, you try to like shop a little in the
discount aisle because you don't want to overspend on keeping
Calvin Ridley. So it's like, I guess we'll just
do Gabe Davis for 13 million. Then he sucks.
So the next year you do Diami Brown for up to 12 million.
And it's like, I actually would have rather just spent like $28
million on Calvin Ridley than then $25 million on Gabe Davis
and Diami Brown. Like at least you have a Really.
I mean, they spent a bet, they spent $120 million on Kirk
Christian Kirk and then got buyer's remorse there.
Yeah, yeah. I still don't really know why
they cut Christian Kirk. What's I think?
Cutting. I got that six round pick right
the 7th. Ingerman, you guys are so wrong.
Cutting Ingerman Kirk just like 2 absolute.
Not even Jacob. This is your line.
I'm about to hoist you with your own petard.
Not even reception merchants, just target merchants.
Just just pure target merchants. Both of them.
Yeah, Jacob, what do you say to that?
Kirk is like maybe Arizona Christian Kirk not four season
ending injuries later 29 year old Christian Kirk.
I don't know, it's pretty good to use.
The guy to get the ball to man, like sometimes it's 3rd and 6th
and you're in the foxhole and and they've just bracketed Brian
Thomas junior and I don't know. Do you want to throw the ball to
Parker, WA? All right, here's a here's a
conspiracy theory then. Do you think it was a misreading
second shooter Misreading of the market by the Jaguars front
office? They thought they were going to
be able to get Hunter at 5 and now?
I don't know, there's Hunter, but.
Oh, I think they all thought they were going to go to be able
to get Godwin. Oh yeah, I think they thought.
They were going to get Godwin. OK.
I think they did miss Mystery the.
Market. How about?
Get the guy first next time. Yeah, why are you?
Why are you getting rid of receiver depth?
Like you come in and your first move is like, all right, get
these two guys out. Get these two guys who've had
like multiple seasons with the quarterback and are very
comfortable. Getting getting rid of getting
rid of Benavan Ingram is so fine.
Like it's so I think. I agree.
I don't I think. I think they actually that's
addition by subtraction in my opinion.
I would rather have Brendan Strange if I started tight end.
I wouldn't. I'd rather still have Evan
Ingram because I don't even know if Brett Strange can can really
play. Well, yeah, since we're on
Jacksonville, The five on the show have been have been pretty
optimistic when it comes to them.
Despite all this, what what is the likeliest outcome at pick 5
Gente? Everybody now seems to be
talking about Gente at 5:00, but I don't think it would be to
Jacksonville. That is not happening.
I Jalen Walker, they're going to take Jalen Walker.
I, I mean, this is, this is the pick that's all up for grabs,
right? It could be Walker, it could be
Graham, it could be Gente. What I don't really buy is we're
getting the Macmillan hype. That'd be cool.
It'd be awesome. I would be pretty surprised if
like after this whole draft process, where we wound up is
back where we were in August, which was top five pick Pat
McMillan. But it would be cool.
I don't know. That's what the draft, They say
the draft starts at 5, right? Like I, I don't know, I'll do a
little mock draft for fun probably the night before.
I have to pick a guy right now, I think.
I think I'd go with Genti. In a train.
No, I would. I, I, I think no chance.
I think, I think no chance that the Jaguars take Genti.
I think it's a trade. I I feel like there's so much
momentum for him going. Everybody wants him at this
point. And so whoever that might be,
Chicago, even the Raiders one spot.
That's assuming New England doesn't pick him already at 4,
which I guess. Would be possible.
They're they're taking Campbell. I think you can pretty much lock
in Campbell at four that that's like what like -1000 now?
Campbell at 4 seems like a done deal.
Yeah, that that assumes the Giants don't think it's draft
starts at three. Yeah, yeah, I think I think
they're going to Walker. There's there's been a lot of
buzz that the NFL really, really likes these edges and they're
they're kind of the the buzzy position right now and they've
made a ton of stuff, done a ton of stuff about, you know,
character and, you know, kind of bringing in the right guy.
That's Walker. Walker's that dude Gente also
fits that bill. But I just struggle to see them
taking a running back at 5:00 with, you know, like the whole
reason you, you could talk yourself into taking running
back at 5 is because there's like no guys at premium
positions, but Walker's at a clear premium position.
And it's the second best player at that position in the draft
and a position and the guy the NFL seems to really.
Like is it a position of? Me.
Yeah, Position of me. They have.
They have Trayvon and they have Heinz Allen.
Edge is a position of need for everyone, all the time, always.
Yeah, right. Couldn't they just take #2?
They could. That's probably better.
I think that's better. Yeah, but I'm I.
Think we would like that better, yeah.
If there is a trade, I mean there haven't been any yet.
This is unusual for it being a draft where everybody still has
their first round pick. That almost never happens.
I I believe Rap Sheet tweeted this yesterday.
It might have been Schefter. First time since whatever the
Joe Montana draft was that there's not been a first round
pick traded in the offseason. Does it mean anything?
Probably means. I mean, I think.
We're going to see few trades on draft night.
Yeah, I do. That's just just because it
seems like everybody kind of agrees there's, you know, like
everybody seems to agree. There's like 5 to 6 blue chip
players and half of those play running back or tight end.
And so most of these high value position guys after you get past
Hunter and Carter are, are just not at the level of people are
going to go and trade up. And then the quarterbacks are at
the level that people are going to go and trade up.
So I, I just think it's going to be a, it's going to be a lot of
people, not dissimilar to probably your 2025 rookie drafts
sitting there at, you know, the 8th pick, the 7th pick being
like, hey, anybody want this pick and a bunch of GM's be
like, no, I'm good, I'm good. Like one of our we have 7 guys
the same tier, one of them's going to fall to us.
Yeah. And I think the teams that need
quarterbacks are starting to put out those types of, you know,
rumors of like, yeah, well, like, we're actually feeling
pretty good about not taking these guys.
You know, Mcshea had, well, Pittsburgh too.
Pittsburgh has had something of like, yeah, we like Shudorfine,
but he might not be who we take like, he's.
And then there's like, yeah, if he falls to 21, we might pass.
It's it's like one of the things Mcshea said.
And then he also was like, the Saints aren't taking him at 9:00
and they probably wouldn't take him at 40.
Oh my God. So I don't think you know.
That feels like you said they are not taking him at 40 if he
is available like they it was like they like they will take if
it's if they got up on the blog at 40 and Szura Sanders is there
and Tyler Shagg is there, the options are they would take
Tyler Shagg or no one. That that was like the whole 1.
That was phrase. Yeah, so that's that to me.
Now that could all be like a game that's happening, but it is
still interesting that the game is really like I don't or
something. These guys suck and I'm not
going to trade up for them. And you know, I'm not going to,
I feel comfortable like pretending that I'm not going to
trade up for them because they're definitely not going to
go like top 10 or anything. Like these guys will be
available in the 20s probably. You know, if I have to trade up
for them at that point, I guess I'll do it.
But. I think I'm officially.
Rooting for Tyler Shuck to go at 9 just to.
See. Yeah, I I think that would.
Be amazing. Well, just back-to-back years of
a total a, a quarterback totally coming out, you know, a 27 year
old quarterback totally coming out of Tyler Shuck, older than
Michael Annex, by the way. That's ridiculous.
As the Penix pick was at the time, and I didn't love Penix as
a prospect. The Tyler Shug stuff is so much
more insane. See what you want.
Michael Penix. Yeah, he was old.
He had like, yeah, but he was also like a very productive
quarterback. Very good, Very good college.
Yeah, yeah, like a good real. Life was unimpeachable about
Michael Pennix was that he was an awesome college quarterback
at the University of Washington, and you can't disagree with he.
Was even pretty good at. He was even pretty good at
Indiana before. Absolutely, but shrug is like a
journeyman college quarterback who is never particularly great
in college. Never let a good college team
played like 17 different schools and then we're just all getting
psyopped. It's insane.
There's nothing about him that's impressive.
I didn't know he would be drafted.
Didn't know to be. Drafted.
I used to do a show with this guy Billy, when we first started
our podcast like four or five years ago, and he hasn't done
fantasy football content in three years because he's getting
his PhD in some engineering things.
And he was at Texas Tech when Shug was the starter of Texas
Tech, and he was always talking about Tyler Shug.
That's the only reason I know he exists.
I just I feel like. It's one of these things where
the draft necks just try and prove that they know ball.
They're like actually dude, like, like if you actually look
at the way this 27 year old guy stands and delivers under
pressure, you know, you can really see that translating.
I, I don't, I think it's like almost involuntary.
Like there's just something about the way he throws the ball
that they're like, honestly this guy, because I remember
listening to like Dane Burglar when it was the Senior Bowl and
you know, they were supposed to talk about like Jalen Millro and
dart and stuff. And he was like, you could tell
'cause it was early. It was before all the Shuck
stuff really had taken off. And he's like, honestly, like I
kind of like Tyler Shuck. Like he's the dude of match and
throw that is actually impressing me.
Like it was at first like. Yeah dude, the 26 year old
should be better than Jalen Millro.
Jalen Millro was in. Jalen Millro was in middle
school. Tyler Shuck's first year at
Oregon. That's what there was like that.
What? He was in middle school.
Yes. He would have been 5.
Years ago he would have been. Five years ago, he would have
been in middle. School when Tyler Shock.
Was Yeah. I mean, you know, it brings me
no pleasure to report this other than that it does bring me a lot
of pleasure. The the I I tweeted this
yesterday. Everything I've learned about
Tyler Shock has been against my will.
I I I think I. Good first college appearance
was in 2018. It's now 2025.
Yeah, he was Justin Herbert's backup.
It's time for him to go on, move on.
So just just to confirm, just to confirm, Jalen Millroe would
have been in middle school or no, he would have been a
freshman in high school in 2018. So it's not as funny.
OK, It's. Tyler Shugs.
In 8th grader. Older than Gabe Davis, are you
guys drafting him? Is the bet that he will go on
day 2 unfortunately. Well, in dynasty, yes.
Not in basketball. In dynasty only Chuck is
honestly a pretty great pick. He's obviously useless in
basketball. Yeah.
Yeah, Jacob, tell me I'm wrong. Tyler Shuck is actually pretty
undervalued. Oh no, you're not wrong.
I've been digging him in every league.
I hate myself. I I take him like at the late
3rd, early 4th and then I just like like look loggingly at the
gun in the corner like it's just.
Wouldn't you? Wouldn't you?
Wouldn't you rather I'm being dead?
I don't have a gun, I'm Canadian.
Wouldn't you rather? Take Will Howard.
I would rather take Will Howard. I I think Will Howard does a lot
of what scouts think Tyler Shuck is going to do, but with the
experience of having actually played a lot of college
football. I mean, of all the rest of these
guys, I was going. To say you're about to say
Dylan. Gabriel, he's a, he's going to
be a great CFL quarterback. Pat, I promise he's probably
just cannot play in the league. He's not built to play in the
league, but he I think he was like a legit good college
quarterback. So that's that's like the one
guy would kind of exempt from this, but outside.
Of most outstanding player he. Sat to my He sat next to my
grandma at church and she said he's a really nice young man.
Very, very well man. Dylan Gabriel, it's all I got.
Unremarkable. He nailed the interview.
He nailed, he nailed the interview.
Yeah, OK. That's good.
Outside of like the guys who are, you know, have gotten the
first round buzz and stuff. I would, I honestly would just
be like, hey, scouts, like which guy excites you the most in in
terms of like his throwing motion and whatnot, Because
these guys all are backups, every single one of them,
including Chuck. But Chuck is probably the the
scouts seem excited enough that he'll.
Probably not even Chuck's not even Toolsy, though.
That's the that's the thing I think that's tilting me is Chuck
is not even like he's not a developmental quarterback.
You know what I'm saying? Well.
For sure. The development is kind of older
development ended. Years ago.
He had seven seasons in which he played or could have played
called football games, and he surpassed 2000 passing yards in
one of them. He has 900 drop backs in those
seven seasons. Like that's like that's like 1
Bailey Zappy season in Western Kentucky.
But that that is where I so where I think, you know, he is
actually a decent superflex pick is that we we actually don't
have that big of a sample and he's gonna get draft capital.
So we can't we there's only so sure that we can be that he's
not, you know, I'm pretty. Sure.
A. A.
You know what the type of? The type of starter who can hold
down a job for like two or three seats.
I don't need him to be good, I need him.
To be like, he's what? Jr.
Enterprise Just. Said A.
Sam Howell Window. Yeah, Sam Howell window, Sure.
Yeah, I think he'd give you longer than that.
I think you'd get a Kenny Pickett window from him.
That's what I think about. Why would you ever want to draft
anyone with that kind of a ceiling?
I mean, whatever round it is, I mean it's not.
Real life fourth round, That's a massive hit.
In real life, huge hit. Yeah, you gotta.
You gotta draft. I don't have to.
You gotta draft like a real life.
Oh, in real life. Oh my God.
No, I wouldn't have realized. My real life is.
Preposphorous. Why wouldn't NFL team ever want
to do that? What?
What are you actually planning on having happen?
Like just why would? He didn't want to do it bling
the the pigskin. Because the NFL cares about
traits and they care about what what they can see.
So it's like, I see he's good at throwing the ball, like, and
they're like, yeah, but he's 26. I'm like, OK, how many times you
can tell me that? You already told me that and
I've already ignored it. Let's let's move on.
Yeah, there was like the quote in that athletic article, or
it's like, don't even get me started on his age.
Nope, don't care. This isn't baseball.
That was that was that was my all time quote.
That that was an all time. That is what that is what I
imagine NFL scouts sounding like.
Yeah. Yeah, that's not their job
though. Their job isn't like this.
Is a baseball. Six Yeah, yeah, their their
job's to be like I mean he probably does have under
appreciated arm talent. I that's that's probably true is
this. Doesn't sound like it's all the
stick. Around No, I doubt it.
I doubt it. I.
Just you know, the names Howell and Pickett or Levis, Just what,
what is it? What are the odds you know of
that, of that working out, drafted, drafted?
A hell of a law firm, though. Hal Pickett and Levis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. By by the way, Jacob.
You know, Jalen Hurts was a second rounder, Derek Carr was a
second rounder, Andy Dalton's a second rounder.
Some of these guys do head. Wilson Third, my kid, my kids
went in separate trips down South for spring break for
teenagers and both were kind of shocked to see like guns in the
store Walmart in South Carolina guns.
They were not allowed to buy any just That's why I say that.
But those are just better for the This is just the aisles
named if your team takes Tyler Shug so.
Mike, I saw, I saw a graphic that made me think of you
yesterday on on Twitter about basements, parts of the country
that have basements, No basement.
Do you have a basement? Are you from a basemented area?
I'm in it, yes. Yeah.
I have a basement which is on street level so I don't actually
go downstairs, but it's. So so.
You don't. You can't go 8 feet under the
earth. Not in this house, but all over
the area, you know, Usually yes. This is your basement.
But it's just no Delaware's big basement country.
Man, it's. Is it OK?
Yeah, Delaware's big basement. I think of it as a basement.
In Canada you gotta have basements for the.
Heat we had a bad. Everybody, everybody has
basements in Canada. Yeah, we did like, you know,
there's like we'd go hang out in the basements.
You know, that's like the, that's the teenagers who go hang
out in the basement. How much?
Just made me feel bad for the large swath of the country that
like doesn't have like didn't get to hang out in the basement
you. Know maybe it's time for me
there's no. Basements out here and these
kids, they're like outside, they're like hanging out
they're. Like is that dude?
It's. Awful.
Never heard. Of the two, where in.
The basement. They're never going to grow up
to be podcasters. It's time for me to rebrand this
thing. I'm going to call this the first
floor because it actually isn't underground and now I have a
three story house boom. Boom.
It's the garden level, Mike. That's what we call the garden,
The garden level. OK, reframe.
There's a bar in here, I'm sitting at it.
You know, there's a lot of stuff that's a basement trate stuff
everywhere. So at the Christmas tree.
Anyway, again, ADP chasing here with two days to go before the
NFL draft. One guy, maybe we should just
start on Genti and what we think happens there.
We've talked about him a little bit already where he could maybe
go at 5-6 of the Raiders is the popular 1.
I don't know. I mean, San Francisco has been
mentioned as a, you know, worst case scenario for him.
Whatever happens, just making your best guess, Pat, what do
you think it'll mean to his draft position?
I think we've talked about this already as like he, he goes up.
Is there room for him to go up, though?
What are we assuming happens? I think there's still room for
him to go up. It's not locked in.
There's there are places. San Francisco would be the the
main one at 11 where you'd go. Oh no, this is not what we
signed up for. But right behind that is Dallas.
I do think, I mean, Dallas has been linked to a receiver for a
long time, but I think that's with the assumption that
Gentie's gone. If Gentie was not gone, I
actually think they would take him.
I mean, I haven't heard anything about that, but it's just like,
how do you pass on him? And you need the running back
the the Bears I think would take him still, so I don't.
Think he gets past the Bears? What did he say?
Oh, just agreeing with you. I don't think you can get past
the bears. Yeah, so the Bears and I think
the Raiders might pass just just for some of these edges and
stuff like that seems to be where like the, you know, and
frankly, like they should, you know, you should be trying to
build to the trenches if you can.
But the Bears we, you know, they, they know what kind of
offense they want to run and Gente would just like really
help them with building everything around the run and
play action and all of that. So I don't know if he's the
right pick for the Bears, but I think that they would do it.
Jacob, you were tweeting about Gente and the Raiders yesterday.
Yeah, I mean, I was tweeting about the especially the Jags
hype, but also the Raiders and more.
Just that this year it feels like everybody, I think it's
like scared off by the Barclay and Henry success and the, the
running backs being back. And, and all of a sudden, like
I've seen more takes this year from people being like the
Jaguars might take Genti at 5:00 and they should do it.
Or like the Patriots should take him at 4.
The Raiders should take him at six.
And I, I just think that it's, it's taking the wrong lessons
away, like the Barclay Henry stuff.
And it doesn't revisionist history yet because I, I wrote
about it at the time, it was very different.
I've, I've always been of the view that if a premium running
back comes available in free agency, that's exactly how you
should be spending your free agency money because you usually
can't get stars at tackle, edge, wide receiver in free agency.
And I would rather spend up on elite players at non premium
positions than have to overpay for for the middling players at
premium positions in free agency.
And the only opportunity cost is cap space.
If you have the cap space, spend the cap space, but in the draft
you're, you're just giving up so much potential for surplus value
and you're giving up the potential to draft those
difference makers positions you can't get in free agency.
So I, I think that it would be a mistake for any of these teams,
especially before the Bears and Cowboys to, to do it.
Notwithstanding that I think it's it's going to happen.
So I think I agree pretty much with everything past that.
I think if he makes it to the Bears, I really can't see him
getting past the Bears. I, I think it's possible that
like someone like Denver tries to trade way up.
There's been rumblings about that.
And then I think it's at least possible that the Jaguars or
Raiders do it. But I, I, I agree, I don't think
that that's locked in. I think it's like the ceiling
would be 5 and the relative floor would be 10.
I don't buy any. I I don't think the Jags are
taking Genti. Maybe I'm misreading that, but I
I just don't think that's happening.
I don't. I don't think so either.
I think if Genti goes at 5, it's more likely a trade that someone
decides we need this guy. And you know what?
I've said this since literally the first time I watched Ashton
Genti play. I get it, man.
I totally get it. I'm not going to be one of these
nerds that takes my pitchfork to Twitter and goes, don't you
explain the surplus value you gave up.
And he's probably good by his fifth year.
You sound like that. And you're reading one of my
tweets. Yeah, I, I, I've said, I've said
the entire time, whatever team takes them, whatever they pay
for them. I totally get it.
Sometimes football just needs to be viewed as cool and only one
team gets to win a championship. And you know any of these teams,
like guess what, dude, the Broncos, like there's basically
nothing they could do. There's like really nothing the
Broncos could do to get a championship roster in the AFC.
So why not? Just like, dude, it's we're
going to be sick. We're going to score a bunch of
points with Bonex and and Ashton Gente.
It's going to be fun. In his case, that's expensive.
Broncos, well, the trade up would be bad, but like in a
vacuum, like let's say after Jetty, let's just say the
Broncos picked higher than they do because he's never going to
fall 20. Let's just say the Broncos
walked in at the 14th overall pick.
I'd be like, that's totally fine.
Like I would have no problem. Did you just pick that Pick a
random area I. Didn't even think that.
I didn't even think of that. Yeah, trade up ever.
But no, I I think that they're like a reasonable team.
I think that the Bears and Cowboys are like on the
borderline of reasonability. Like I wouldn't love it, but I
wouldn't like clown it. I think if the Jaguars or
Raiders do it, I think that that just would be really bad.
But. It's it, yeah.
I've never wanted to be, you know, whatever Davis's whatever
chord you were striking there. I I never wanted to do that.
That because I mean, the thing with Genti, it's it's just the
wrong argument to try to make on the Internet because gentsy's
going to be good. So you have to be like, I'm
seeding that this player the team selected will be very good.
Now get ready for me to win this argument.
It's like you're never no, this is an impossible argument.
Someone on the Internet, the player's going to be good.
So it's just like whatever, like.
We we literally, we lived this dude.
Berkeley was awesome and the Giants fucking.
Yeah, and they were wrong. Yeah, and the great people who
made these points on Twitter were vindicated.
Yeah, of course. Except they weren't, though.
Not in the eyes of a hater. Well, it's hilarious to the
giants, and every day I grab my bagged lunch and I go to work on
the Internet and I try to fight the haters.
I think we were actually vindicated by the Giants because
they were so atrocious during They're so atrocious they had to
let Saquon go somewhere else to be good, which I think tells you
a lot about what drafting running back in the top ten will
do for you. So, yeah, but I mean, whatever,
like it doesn't matter the the the Raiders I think are still
very live to take him. And if they don't, he's probably
going to be on the on the bears. I wouldn't rule out some kind of
wild card scenario between 6:00 and 10:00.
But I don't know, like let's say for example he were to go to the
Saints or something that like really grossed us out God.
The Saints. You know, I I'd still be like,
whatever he's going to be. I mean, he's immediately going
to dusk him here. Your boy FLG was like, they're
they they want a blue chip player, right?
That's the idea. So if let's say Warren goes to
The Jets at 7:00 and Graham goes to either the Panthers at 8 or
the Jaguars at 5:00 because that's the other guy they really
like, then maybe they look at it and say like, well, there's one
blue chip player left and he plays RB.
But you know, the spreadsheet versions don't understand as a
positional value doesn't matter. We just want good football
players. And then they they take Jet.
Yeah. That guy sounds that guy sounds
like someone I'd like to get a tee time with.
You know that guy, He gets it. It does sound very Saints.
Yeah, he would definitely drop in best ball at that point, but
I do I would my kind of take on him would be like.
That he's over Camaro. Yeah, he's going to.
He's going to take the job from Kamara fairly quickly.
Kamara would probably keep like a third down roll.
It would hurt him. It would hurt his ceiling this
season for sure. But then like dynasty wise, he's
still the clear cut one O 1. Yeah.
Dynasty wise Sigmund Bloom on his pre draft Bloom 100 at
football guys says Gentie is worth 3 ones.
I'm a 2.5 days checked days ones.
Traded the 1.5, the 1.6, and the 1.10 to Theo Greminger of
Fantasy points for Genti in our league that is super flex tight
end premium and I was happy to do it.
I still had a 1:11 left that he could have got for me honestly
if he asked for it. I'd take that video.
He left the 111 on the table. Wow.
Like honestly if he would have countered I would have just
said. Yeah, you could have added a
Luther bird. Press the I took, I took Caleb
Johnson because I'm woke. But yeah, I would have, I would
have pressed accept immediately on that.
Oh man, that's so good. Gentie's underdog ADP is 11.
Who does he? If he does get the right landing
spot, who does he pass? Is it St.
Brown? He passes all of them.
He goes to the 1.6.
OK, Puka. He could easily get if he's the
Bears guy, if he's the Bears of 10, I think he could, right,
Right. I don't know that he yeah, yeah,
I think that's probably where he finishes.
It might take like a summer of hype and stuff but I think it'll
get to 1/6. Which sounds like we should have
been doing that all along. Yeah, although it's possible he
ends up somewhere where it's really bad and those receivers
are great picks. So you know it's.
Tough, yeah, you were, you were overpaying if you were doing
this. Like like Pat said, the Saints,
He's he's going, he's probably going down towards the late 2-3
turn. If he's on the Saints, 49ers
would be, it would certainly appear really bad wherever he
ends up. As I explained a few weeks ago,
I'd just be drafting so much of it.
But and then I don't think The Jets thing is happening anymore.
I've heard he's not in the top names.
But if if that did happen, that of course would move his ADP
down as well. Tyler, Tyler Warren for The Jets
at 7. I'm rooting against that.
I've been wanting to see Loveland be the tight end one.
I've always liked the plus 500 on that, and he's going the
right way for that to be a possibility on Thursday night.
So I guess in my world, I'd rather The Jets pick a tackle
which they could use. What?
How do you see that, Jacob? I think that the other, what I
keep hearing from just any person that I hop in their
random DMS seems to be that there are definitely teams that
have Loveland higher, but I think that the teams that are
going to be in position to take tight end seem to have worn
higher. So it seems like The Jets are
potential warrant team, the Saints are potential warrant
team, the Bears are potential warrant team, and then the the
floor on the Florin, the Tyler Florin would be the Indianapolis
Colts. Yeah, and the, the Colson
shoulder stuff does not seem especially if you're sitting in
the top ten. It's like one thing to be like,
we like him more and you know, we're, we're comfortable with
the risk here and at 20 something.
But if you're in the top ten, I think all that stuff starts to
weigh a bit more heavily. I do.
I do think I didn't think Loveland ultimately winds up
being a cult, actually, because I I think Warren's going to go
to seven, 9 or 10 God. I think that that the Colts then
take Loveland to forms gone. Two rounds different in ADP,
Warren and Loveland. One O 1 for Warren, 125 for
Loveland. I've got plenty of both.
I mean, The funny thing is, I I was worried Warren would be on
the Colts. And now if Loveland ends up on
the Colts after all this and it's like that's I mean, that to
me is worth 2 round. Like you telling me for a rookie
tight end, you get The Jets versus the Colts.
I'd be like, yeah, I'll play 2 rounds for The Jets.
Same here. I I like Loveland better.
He's my tight end one in dynasty.
I mean if if that happened he wouldn't be anymore.
But but he is in a vacuum. I hope he doesn't go to the
Colts, although I also got to hope he does because I I think
he's like awesome and I think he'd be great for the Colts
football team and their eventual quarterback.
But for for fantasy football this year, if any tight end goes
to the Colts, I mean, good night, Soldier, Yeah.
Yeah, charger is maybe ideal. Charger is.
The time to learn Will Mallory, buddy.
No, the, The thing is with Ballard, this this might be
proven immediately wrong on Thursday night, but people have
been telling me like, oh, I didn't use the the press
conference where he was like, you know, we're not going to
force a need pick. You get in trouble if you do
need picks. No, there's two different types
of Ballard. The the earnest.
We're not going to take this position.
Ballard it was when he was talking about linebacker and he
brought up this like horrible linebacker Jalen Carly's and
he's like, I really believe in this kid.
It's like, OK, they're not taking the linebacker.
He did not say anything like we believe in Will Mallory.
He like conceded, like we desperately need to tight end
our tight end sock and he's like, but we're not going to do
it out of need. But it just means he's pre
emptively getting defensive against fans being mad when he
reaches out of tight. End and he's about to talk about
when they do take a tight end, how this guy shouldn't have been
there and is, you know, yeah, so much bad on their board.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, from Gente at the high end and then tight ends in the
middle, let's talk about Omarion Hampton.
With all the love that this running back class has gotten,
starting with Gente, he's the only one where it's unanimous.
Gente and Hampton, even as the maybe overall consensus running
back too, is still somebody that seems to me kind of polarizing.
You guys pay closer attention to the prospect stuff than I do.
What's right on Hampton it Is he maybe a guy to be betting
against at this point? Not, not right now.
If you're still drafting, it is not time to bet against Jensen.
Yeah, it is not yet time. It could be time, but Jentsy
Jentsy's my fourth highest my my highest drafted running backs,
Will Shipley, DJ Giddens, RJ Harvey or Maureen Hampton.
Hampton's at 21%. I I think Hampton's wildly
underpriced given the most likely scenarios.
He goes 20 to the Broncos. He is not going to be in the
fourth round. It's just like it just won't
happen. So I mean, you're getting, I
mean, the CLV alone is pretty awesome because I think he could
be a 2-3 turn guy easily, but then like he's he's going to be
behind an awesome offensive line with a coach who utilizes the
running back, throws to the running back like he can do.
The thing with Hampton is, you know, we talked about this with
Dwayne on ship chasing, like maybe he doesn't pop in anyone
area where like this guy's an incredible breakaway runner.
This guy, Oh my God, he's so good in the passing game.
Like that's not who he is, but he checks all the boxes.
He's got size. He was a workhorse in college
and he's going to go first round potentially behind a really good
offensive line on an emerging offense with good coaching.
What what holes do I have to poke?
I'm I can't, I can't, I'm not allowed to take that guy at the
2 three turn. That seems like a very
reasonable maybe even a maybe even a strong 2-3 turn pick
right? Maybe maybe I won't even get him
at the 2 three turn. Maybe he's mid second.
You know I. Think that's all logical and and
accurate? He just has to be drafted there.
And there are still mocks that put Henderson in that slot.
I don't know. I just don't know how.
But there's But there's other good spots too.
Like he. Washington.
Like I would I would give up to like an 80% chance he goes to
one of these spots. Cowboys at 12 would be the I
don't think it could happen, but but it's possible.
Denver 20 because the most likely Pittsburgh 21, Chargers
22 or or Commanders 29. I think any of those five are
all very firmly in play. I'd be surprised if he lasted
all the way to Round 2. Even if he does go to round two,
he probably goes to like the Raiders or the Bears like early
on round two and and that's a really good spot too.
So I think any of those spots, at worst you're drafting him
where we're drafting him now and best we're drafting.
Him in Pittsburgh, maybe. Maybe this group of drafters had
this group of drafters known he was in Pittsburgh.
He's probably in the 5th, right? But I think by the summer he's
still probably going in the 4th if he lands in Pittsburgh in the
first round. I mean, I'm a big Jalen Warren
guy, but like, if they if they draft Hampton in the first,
like, you know. Right, it's over.
Good night, sweet Prince. So like, I think you just, you
just have to, you just have to do it.
So I don't. Really know, I think 10 is that
special I I know it's an. But I just, I just don't think
that this matters like I, I. Don't.
No, you're you're you're 100%. You couldn't like, couldn't be
more. Correct.
The thing is like she's gonna get he's gonna get drafted.
And the thing with him is he also has a skill set where like
the the biggest thing that everybody agrees on with him is
that he is a workhorse skill set.
He is, and it almost plays to his advantage that he's not
actually super elite at anything because the appeal of him is, is
not like, oh, he's going to be a guy that can supercharge our
offense with 10 touches like someone could talk themselves
into. Drafting.
Yeah. It's actually bearish that RJ
Malverie is so electric because it means that some people going
to be like hey dude, if we give you 8 touches a game, can you
score a touchdown? Right, like some, some team
could be like some team could be like, we don't have that many
touches available for running back, but we're we're just
drafting a football player right in Hampton.
It's like, no, like the whole deal is he can take 25 carries
in five catches. So that's what we're going to do
with him. Like if you're going to invest
around one pick in that profile, you're doing it with that in
mind. So I I think and it's, you know,
I think the discourse of like him being potentially
overdrafted in the first round is clouded that he still is a
really good running back prospect.
Like I think if he was just going to go in Round 2 the whole
way, I don't think people would have as many complaints about
him as they do. It's just people saying like,
well, maybe he's not actually around 1 caliber.
Like he's like he's still not a bad prospect.
Like there's there's nothing in his profile but it's like
glaring red flag. No.
And I think, you know, they're like the idea that he should go
in the second round is, is right.
Like he, he should, he should go in the second round for all the
reasons we talked about. Genti not going top 10.
And there probably should be a bigger conversation about who's
actually better between him and Trayvon Henderson and maybe even
Quinch on Judkins and stuff. But like, So what, You know,
he's probably going to go to a good landing spot.
He looks very likely to go round one.
And that still matters, you know, like the, the, the draft
capital difference between him and A and a Judkins.
It still matters. So why I'm not allowed to bet on
it just 'cause I think it's kind of silly, you know?
No, that's, that's all fine. I think Pittsburgh doing it with
Naji leaving, going right back to the early 20s draft slot,
first round running back. I mean, they, they, they look
bad in a lot of ways, but to me that would be incredible if
Pittsburgh. Actually imagine them passing on
like Shadour which take Amari and Hampton.
You know, right now, I would bet.
Well, I can imagine that. Pitts, Pittsburgh, by the way, I
think is is. About the I think they're more
likely to take Dart or Millrow. They're I think, thought to be
the the team that gives out its plans the the most, like
Pittsburgh. It seems like over the years
that's the one team that we just kind of know who they're going
to take. It's maybe hard at 21 to to
really know, but we're just keep an ear out for for the Steelers
rumours for sure. McMillan So Jake earlier
referenced, you know, some recent speculation that he goes
back near the you know, in the top five.
Even more likely, he's later. How late?
What's the floor for for Ted McMillan Thursday?
I mean, I think of all of the round one guys like he seems to
have the widest gap between floor and ceiling.
Because for most of this draft process, well, the very
beginning of the draft process, people were like, McMillan could
go four, he could go 5 to go 8. And then as we went along, it
was like, no, Mcmillan's falling.
The ceiling is Dallas at 12. And if he doesn't go to Dallas
at 12, he's probably going between like 20 to 22.
And then recently now we've gotten this buzz, oh, maybe the
Jaguars at 5, maybe the Panthers at 8:00.
And so I, I think it's now it's like, I don't know, like
stealing five and four still probably in the 20s because
there's only a couple of those teams I think early.
So I, I don't know, I think he's going to be the most fascinated
to see where he goes on draft nights.
It seems like it's a really widespread on him.
And and by virtue of that, I mean a very widespread on where
we want to draft him. Right now, early 5th pick 52.
Yeah, I've been taking him there less because I think he's going
to have some crazy COV rise and more 'cause I think he's, I
think he's a very good prospect. Like it's been he's a bit
polarizing, but I'm in and and it's not that I like think he's
awesome at everything, but I I see the vision of him as like a
consistent intermediate target earner who adds after the catch.
You know, I'm not sure about the deep stuff that's I do actually
have some reservations there, but.
I think I actually think he'll probably be fine on the.
He's a big guy, he probably could be fine.
He's got he's got huge hands. He's got huge hands.
That's true. Yeah.
It's so it's it's just more about like I feel caution.
It's not that I'm like, you know, certain about any about
the way he'll deliver yards, but I'm excited about specifically
him kind of adding as like a possession receiver with, you
know, with a you know, big frame easy target who then adds after
the catch. If he goes to Dallas, like that
is wheels up to me. I mean that's kind of a perfect
fit for for what he maybe you could argue Golden's a better
fit for what they need, but it would be a great fit for for T
Mac there. The thing I I guess I'm kind of
curious about is like if he were to fall in the draft and then
end up falling in best ball, where is he landed?
Like where are the where are the landmines by I guess Baltimore.
I've seen a mock there that. 'D be horrible.
I don't think Seattle would be very good.
Seattle would not be very good and they could use them for.
Sure, chargers again, but that's good.
Chargers would be great. Chargers would be really.
Good Arizona. Arizona would be bad.
Arizona would be bad for sure. But also, that's possible, isn't
it? I have seen a mock there but
that's like guys what are? You doing?
I think he's a weird fit. I don't think they're going to
take a receiver at all. I think they'll take an edge
player or a corner. But if they do take a receiver,
I don't know. The golden fit is like easier to
imagine for me just 'cause like they already have like a an axe
who's a possession guy and then they have a.
Titanic is the same type of guy and.
So it's like, do they need 1/3 like possession receiver?
Like don't they don't they wouldn't they rather just have
like someone to run a bunch of posts?
So I don't know it's. It would be a weird fit.
Bills It would be a weird fit I. Mean no the Bills.
The Bills are. The Bills are only.
Taking a half, Bills, these receivers, yeah.
That would take bills, would be mega, mega bullish from the
ceiling perspective and then how it would actually work.
Out. Yeah, it'd be awesome.
We get to talk ourselves into Ted McMillan on the Bills, and
then he plays a 65% Rd. share. It's gonna be great.
They refuse the drags. They refuse.
They converts the tight end they.
They never, it's never speed with the bills.
It's almost like it feels like it's intentional.
It's just never speed with that. No, but now.
But now I think they realize they need it after, after
choosing Keon Coleman or Xavier Worthy, I think I think they'd
like to have that one back, probably.
Maybe how would? How would you guys, how would
you feel about the Packers at 23?
Bad Another another another 65% route share income.
No, that's not true. I think if they, if the Packers,
who are so ideologically committed to never drafting Ram
1 receivers come out and do it this year, to me that says like,
like, no, we're done with, you know, we, we reject wide
receiver communism. We're we're now going to install
like our, our new throughout wide receiver Christian Watson's
like super injured and you know, Reed can, can be the number 2
and Romeo Dobbs and Dante and Wicks like we'll, we'll never
forget you, but you're not playing anymore.
And and and I think that would actually be very good.
Yeah, well. Look, this all sounds like
there's a lot of possibilities. This is what the original point
was, right? The range of outcomes here on
him in terms of ADP could be very wide.
It could be wide. And I've talked about, you know,
you guys know I've gotten a little Gray.
I'm getting older. You know, I'm, I care about CLB
now I get. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's clear.
It's evident. You know, it's, it's on, it's on
film here, but you know, five years ago, Ted McMillan would
have just been my highest drafted wide receiver because
he's he's a really fun prospect and he's not that expensive by
by these prices and he is my highest drafted wide receiver.
I'm I'm leaning into to staying young and and and and following
my dreams. This is how you.
Do it call, call an ambulance, but not for Pat.
You know who you know who I've started to get hip to is, is
IGBUCA. Yeah, dude, I.
Still, I still think he's super boring, but like the last super
boring guy to go in the first round was Justin Jefferson.
Yep. No Ibuka is way Eric.
Wilson was also was also kind of boring.
I remember being into. I like Wilson just fine.
I don't think I was either in nor.
He went to he was like a one O 5 in that class.
I loved Wilson. Ibuka just being the second
fiddle to a a cascading list of guys just makes me feel bad.
But like, I don't know, they're they were all pretty good, so
maybe it's fine, but he was the number two.
It's all those guys. They.
Were all pretty good. They were all Harrison was the
number four pick and Jeremiah Smith's going to be probably the
number four pick. This dude and and he's going.
To be a first round pick too. Well, JSN as well.
Love. Right.
And that was when he was a he was a freshman.
So he breaks out his sophomore year alongside Marvin Harrison,
struggles through an injured, riddled third year, and then
Jeremiah Smith's the number one guy when he gets back, which
which seems bad under normal circumstances, but I don't think
maybe is bad at all. If Jeremy was eligible to come
out if if they change the rules right now and they're like
Jeremiah Smith is actually draft eligible, he would be like the
first overall pick I. Think he'd be the second pick.
I think the Browns would take him.
I still think the Titans would take Ward.
Sure, that's that's very possible.
He comes in over. Travis Hunter taken.
Oh yeah, he's already probably. Yeah, he's already bigger than
Hunter, which is teams like that thicker.
Then there's Luther burden and golden, golden burden.
Abuca go all right side by side in underdog 808182.
Yeah. And I think that that is really
bad. I don't know why ABUCA doesn't
go that's a that's a test should go.
That's a test should clearly go higher than burden.
Because burden. Burden is.
Just yeah, like it's just, it's just the draft capital
difference between those two. And maybe it isn't in the actual
draft, but the projected difference right now is pretty
stark. Abuca's like 5050.
Will he go in the first? Won't he?
Burden's like 9010 going in round two and maybe even falling
into mid late round too. And.
Like like it would be shocking if Burden goes in round one.
At this point I would. I would be legitimately.
Under 10% chance. I think Ibuka's is 5050 and if
he goes to round two he's going to be one of the first picks in
round two. I think he will be taking more
like 1. I think Ibuka goes round one.
So I think that he should clearly go ahead of Burton.
I also just think he's a better profile independent of draft
capital and and materially. So Golden is is obviously a
different kind of bet. You know, he's going to get
draft capital. He's probably going to get
drafted ahead of Abuka, but but not certainly out of Abuka.
And it's just how much do you care about the draft capital
versus the production profile? And I would say like in
fairness, in best ball, I would have weighted a little bit more
to the draft capital than I would in in dynasty.
So I think that they should probably go similarly.
I would still take Ibuka first, but Burden should be a clear
third of those three I think in basketball.
Golden's been tough for me because luckily we kind of like
a bit early to it where, you know, when he was going with
Trey Harris back when he was in the outside, the top 100, we're
on that. But then he rose quickly and I
haven't, he hasn't been like someone I've been hammering and
then have come to the same conclusion that you have where
it's like Abuka is the guy I want of these three.
But I do think, you know, he could rise if if he goes to the
Cowboys, it's like, yeah, you can get Abuka all day because he
goes like a round and 1/2 after him.
So that's been the thing that's I don't want to end up where I
don't have any golden. So I've been trying to force
myself to to take more. But let's see where I ended up.
I ended up at 11%, which I feel pretty good about.
That feels like a really solid position.
And then Ibuka. Ended up 7.
Percent 1111% Golden, 17% Ibuka. Hunter, by the way, passed all
of them. Yeah.
By the as we get to the finish line, he's at 7 three and he's
almost a lot. Took him at 1:02 in a rookie
draft yesterday. Felt great just.
That's almost like that's kind of like the the consensus now,
isn't it? Hunter at One O 2.
Yeah. I think I think Hampton should
probably be one O 2 but I maybe I'm wrong.
Hunter's so the. Well, you'll either be really
really right or really really wrong.
Right. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. I think it's pretty good.
I mean, if tight end premium, you could have two guys there
that will maybe even go like top six, top five, top 6IN those
formats. Maybe it's 3 running backs,
Hunter, maybe it's McMillan or someone else.
Then eventually Ward one QB. I'm thinking here with Gente on
top, there's some, you know, everybody seems to say you want
to trade down because of how comparable a lot of those
players are, but not not easily done.
I'm, I'm just ready to do you guys know of a world where you
can get like dynasty trade offers and actually have them be
sort of competitive or are are you all in the same world as I
am where it takes less than 5 seconds to reject?
I mean, I don't know. I, I tend to think like it must
be my fault. It must be my fault because
don't. Internalize this.
Don't internalize the bad trade offers you're getting like.
OK, the the the guy in your life that you sort of think of as
maybe the guy who was really off from trying to value whatever.
That's me. That's me.
Your own. In leagues with me, you're
actually, you're all, you're all in leagues with me and, and I'm,
I'm bad at this. I mean I I always send super
lopsided stuff in my favor to to begin with.
Because what? Well, just because they might
accept it. Yeah.
And. Then and then if and then if
it's unreasonable. Then.
If it's unreasonable, you work to a deal where both sides are
amicable, and then you send the deal with them sending you a
2026 third in addition to whatever.
Davis, you gotta write like a book.
Man. Book about it like dynasty,
people would love it. If I didn't know you.
Great. And then you and then you turn
that 2026 third into Keenan Allen, you know, in week 9.
And then and then you know, it's, it's how you, it's how you
make, that's how. You win.
You don't go broke. You don't.
You don't make friends with this strategy, but you also don't go
broke. There's a certain level of
dynasty trade that that might as well just be like a text
message. That's what's up.
Like that's the level, that's how far we're now down the road
towards an actual trade. And I don't know, some people
just feel comfortable. That's the way they want to get
back in touch. With like someone, someone sent
me like the 212 and like the three O 6 for by Kyler Murray in
the superflex league. And I just like obviously
instant rejected. And then like a couple days
later they were like picks for Kyler and I was like, well, not
those picks. And then he's like, all right, I
would do 2 firsts and I'm like, OK, now we're now we're now
we're cooking. With cats here see and that
that's the art that's the art of the deal right there your your
your league mate your because because he now.
He got him on the hook. Well, it was communicated.
It was communicated. There was interest in a deal.
You know, you didn't have to. You didn't have to argue with
this guy. You just clicked reject.
We all know. We all know where everyone
stands when you do that. I mean, I've done dynasty trades
with actually show up. I don't think you and I have
ever traded, but I've done it. It's one time and it it I wasn't
proud of myself. I basically gave you, I
basically gave you Christian Watson when he was a.
Rookie who I who I think I cut in that league that you or I
that you now are in now, Jacob. Brand trader that that that I
know of is is Sean Siegel, who does the the overpet.
He'll actually come in and pay more than he's supposed to for
guys. But you're losing that trade.
He's he's, he's, he's very, very good at crafting a deal where
you're like, I have to accept. This yes, yes.
And then you do, and you lose the deal.
You lose the deal like pad, Yeah.
Yeah, I, I am in a league with Jacob or he took over an orphan
team that he Co owns with Gretsch.
And he had this experience with me when he took over this team.
He it's a total rebuild operation.
And I had like a, a random 2nd and I was like, here's the deal.
I'll take all your trash for this second, but you got to give
it all to me. Like we're talking.
We're talking like you got to give me Evan Ingram and Gabe
Davis and and Jaleel McLaughlin and Shark was involved and DJ,
like you got to give me, I'll take your trash, but you got to
clean the street up. It's got to be all the trash.
If you want. If you want this second.
You missed the spot. Yeah, and and I, I don't even
remember if we did the deal or not.
Well, we did a different deal. We did a different deal, which
was it was a little win feather of my cap for me over over you
and Gretch and that we did the deal and then Gretch texted me
and he said that was too light, what are you doing?
But the deal was we got like 3 picks off of you for Kirk
Cousins and so vindicated. Many, many such cases in in
these leagues I'm in where I'm trying to hang on, 'cause I was
I, I, I have three leagues where I'm barely hanging on to being
the title favorite but dead at quarterback.
So I have a lot of Kirk. Cousins the great irony is that
at that rebuild team, that was so deplorable.
We made the playoffs. Yeah, we we've made the final
four with like no players, but it was basically just Jonnu
Smith who I think was in the trash heap deal.
We were running, he was in the trash.
I was trying to. Get he like carried our team to
the semi finals. Yep, well good for you and your
fishing expeditions I guess. To me, you get a terrible offer
and it's just no. And then maybe the person will
get back to you with like powder.
Like no, no, no. I've already ruled out the
possibility of anything reasonable happening with you.
So I I cut down the people I can trade with by like 70% because
like that was that guy. No, there's no way.
There's nothing worth talking about.
But you know you're saying it can't.
Be some of the worst. Some of the worst trade offer
guys though have sent me like out of the blue awesome deals.
Awesome trades. So you do actually, as annoying
as it is, you have to be like, hey man, not interested in this
like. Well, the the awful trader.
Guy play the game. Here's here's the secret.
Awful Trader guy probably likes running backs more than you do,
so that can create a discrepancy.
Like Awful Trader guy might view Rashad White as a first round or
something like. Seven years ago, Awful Trader
Guy offered me his Travis Kelsey for my Austin Safarian Jenkins
in a late first round rookie pick in one quarterback.
Yeah. I was like, thank you, Awful
Trader Guy. It's all been worth it now.
Yeah. This is ATG.
Not to be confused with FLG, this is ATG.
Awful. Awful trader guy.
Got it. Set in the open, the running
backs and receivers who are maybe borderline day 2.
Day three seems like it's a just a massive difference that we get
to find out what's going to happen here Friday and Saturday.
But Giddens and Harvey and maybe Sampson, the running backs I'm
thinking of, there's some chance they go on Friday.
And you want to think it hasn't always been the case, but a team
that spends a day two pick on a running back would give that
player a real shot day three. Anything's possible.
So just seems maybe like common sense, but a big swing is
waiting for a lot of these rookies we talked about every
week. Yeah, and I've I've my theory
was that we should spread it out in best ball because, you know,
we want to capture some of this upside, but there's going to
there are going to be losers there.
I I didn't fully spread it out. As I mentioned earlier, I went
heavy Giddings and Harvey after that.
I feel like I spread it out decently.
I mean, no one else was. It was over 20% in that kind of
that tier. I cooled off on Tootin
specifically because of draft capital.
I like him a lot as a prospect, but I only ended up with with 8%
because he got very he'd like per per draft pick, you're
probably paying the most, you know, per expected draft
capital, you're paying the most for Tootin of almost anyone in
that group. And I think, I think there will
be some, some big hits and some big messes, Yeah, as you, as you
said. Caleb Johnson, Where do we end
up there? I still, I still believe, you
know. I'm a big fan.
I know it's I know it's a little bit of me and Davis against the
world these days, but I still, I'm still a big Caleb Johnson
fan. Me.
We got art. Me and Fox Mulder, we still
believe. This is this is, this is me.
This is Caleb Johnson. Caleb Johnson is the is the
alien. I still, I still believe.
Unfortunately, Caleb is going to be have like a 100 and 1580 P
because he's going to the Ravens in Round 2.
Oh God. Oh that is so painful to me.
Man, no. You're going to talk yourself
into it so fast. No, no, you're going to talk
yourself into that Derrick Henry injury real quick.
No, no. Obviously that is great for him
in basketball mania and he'll be a core tenant of my losing teams
in 2025, but it will have killed a bunch of round six and round
seven big board teams. It's just not great.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm, I've, I've faded
Johnson. I end up at 4% on him for the
draft capital. I just he's going to go later
than people think. Sorry, did you did?
He what did he go Pat? I mean, I think he'll go like
late second, early 3rd. I don't think he's going to go
or maybe mid third. I don't think he's like going to
fall, fall, fall. But he's been still kind of
drafted like Judkins was going in my last couple drafts.
He that I did last night. I think I got him in the mid 7th
of one of those. Judkins is so much better, so
much more likely to, you know, get drafted in that early second
round range by like 1 of the like the Raiders coming back
around and grabbing a guy. It's so much more likely to be
Judkins than than Caleb Johns. So I don't know like
specifically where he lands, but I, I think once you get kind of
past that early second round range, you start to run into, is
this guy being drafted to be a day one starter?
Is he just like a guy the team likes?
And you know, obviously that matters a ton at running back.
Yeah, fair enough. Respectfully, like I think maybe
people watching you and listening to you say that, how
do you know, Like what? What clues are there?
Which of these dozen running backs are the ones that, in that
moment, the team will or won't like?
Yeah, I mean, and, and it'll be team specific as well.
And like guys like Bruegler really like Caleb Johnson.
So it's not that he doesn't have his fans, but he's more, you
know, the breakdown on him is like, this is more of an outside
zone runner. He's more of like he fits
specific schemes. He didn't test particularly
well, especially by the standards of this year's class.
He tested poorly. Not, you know, he's a good,
solid NFL athlete, but he's like a big breakaway runner who's
actually not all that fast. He's not from like one of the
highest pedigrees in terms of program strength and everything.
So there's like reasons that you might think he he would go
behind some of these guys to begin with.
And then like he needs like the the number of teams that are
likely to be interested in him with like our true kind of
premium pick would be smaller just because the scheme fit
stuff. So he's just risk.
I think he's just riskier. It's not that I know for sure
he'll go in the mid to late second round, but it was a bet
that I'm like at this price, we're drafting him like he's a
he's a starting running back, you know, by mid season, you
know, like that's kind of the that's the bet we're making.
We win, we win this bet. If he lands in a spot where he's
going to be, he projects to be a starting running back by mid
season because then he would move more into like the fifth or
sixth round. So that's like, you know, a good
bet to have made in the 7th, but I think there's like legit risk
that that's not that he's more in kind of a Trey Benson type of
situation. And then we're we're really
getting a premium handcuff, which would be a bet I'm
comfortable making where Scataboo goes, which is I made a
bunch with Scataboo, but that's it.
That was a big difference, you know, between like what the 730
round versus yeah, it's 30 picks, it's 30 picks.
So 30 picks is enough for me to be like I'm going to take the
cheaper guy. Scheme is big teams have types
big school, small school always you know, good to dig into that.
I guess. By the way, not a rookie, but
Caleb Johnson ADP pick 80 ones run running back spot behind
Tyrone Tracy. What what is your feeling each
of you on on Tracy real quick with the Giants?
Like he's not he's not exactly safe there, but was he, wasn't
he a little bit good? He feels like super fragile.
He feels like Alfred Morris level fragile where he could
just be Phillip Lindsay level fragile Tracy.
What? Yeah, what you need to hope for
if you're drafting Tracy and I'm not drafting Tracy, but what you
need to hope for is that the Giants, for whatever reason, do
feel like they need to trade into round one to get a
quarterback. And so their first pick goes to
Carter, their second pick goes to that quarterback, and then
they have to use one of their third and maybe they're even
their fourth round picks to facilitate that trade up for
said quarterback. And then all of a sudden they're
just out of picks to replace Tyrone Tracy.
And so they don't end up drafting that a running back
until like the fifth or something.
That's that's the path for Tracy to stay alive.
Is that like the Steelers draft a quarterback 21 and the Giants
get spooked that like the Saints of the Browns are going to are
going to beat them to trade up into round one and they're going
to be left out of chair of the dance?
And and then we get that late run on quarterbacks.
They have to use up draft capital to get one.
If they don't, if they just make their picks, I think that
probably a round three or round four pick is getting earmarked
for a running back. And Tracy was fine, but he I
don't think was like special enough to where he's just going
to ice a running back. I think he could be, he could be
good enough to to be an impediment to that running back
and they could split it down the middle.
But I, I, I think he's not going to have the full workload.
Yeah, the the thing with Tracy is you think, OK, it's the fifth
round and they've just taken Damian Martinez.
Am I worried about that? And I I would be.
And then I think the next question is if a player like
Damian Martinez fundamentally changes this bet, maybe this is
not a great bet to make in the eighth round or whatever, or
wherever he went. I've drafted him three times in
150 drafts. I don't know.
But yeah, I just, I think he's fragile.
I don't think there's much UPS that I could talk about.
Clvi don't think you'd get any really, if they don't draft
anybody. Like he's not going to be a
sixth round, seventh round pick, right?
So you're kind of like it's it's a it's an offense that we're
going to have trouble getting. Best case scenario, they're
going to have a rookie quarterback.
So yeah, I faded him pretty hard do.
You guys see the Giants getting to a quarterback here.
I think, I mean they'll definitely take a quarterback.
I just don't know who or when, but I mean the.
Kyle McCord to. Be the rumor seems to be that
there was like an agreement reached between the front office
and the ownership, but it's a little bit hard to tell which
part of this the ownership wants and which part the front office
wants right. There seems to be some agreement
that they're going to take the best player available at 3:00
and then at then they have to figure out a quarterback plan
with their other picks. And so maybe that's a 34, maybe
that's trading up into the first, maybe that's even in
round 3, but they'll take someone.
I, I, I still think ultimately that's where Shudur winds up, I
think at 34 or in the late 1st. Yeah, I think I like it on
Cleveland with Hunter the same way.
Yeah, yeah, that's possible too. Chase Brown not a rookie, also
pick 39 ADP. Does Zach Moss being reworked
his deal with the Bengals mean anything to Cincinnati's chances
of drafting a running back this week?
It's probably slightly bullish. Slightly bullish.
Like slight like like if I had to pick a direction because now
it like they could at least tell themselves, all right, we've got
our three dudes. We have Chase Brown, Samaj P
Ryan, Zach Moss and we've got Trayvon Williams on the practice
squad. If we are are real desperate.
Yeah, that's how I see it. No real need to and.
And Moss stinks. Moss stunk for them last year.
Will stink for them. This year had already taken that
job before Moss got hurt. I feel like people kind of
forget that. But like he never he didn't get
unleashed into 90% opportunity share guy.
But that Saturday Night Football game against the Giants was the
the changing of the guard. Like he had already taken over
at least as a 65 to 70% guy. So Moss is good, but the Bengals
have still also met with like every single running back
because rumored to go day 2. So I don't think we're out of
the woods, but it helps. I learned this year that some
teams don't even do visits. The Rams never like they don't
do visits. Jacksonville's new GM came from
the Rams and they didn't do private workouts or anything
like that. Do you guys know that?
Apparently it's because they don't want to get biased by the
interviews, which is kind of interesting.
Yeah, there's some good research on that.
Well, I read, I read that they still do visits, but they just
have this guy. I forgot what his name was, but
it was like it was like start with an S and it was like a
word, not like a name. But they, but they would go and
visit the players at their own campuses or homes and then they
don't have to count it as a 30 visit.
And then they, they A, felt that the, the players were more
comfortable in their own environment and then B, because
they wouldn't have to disclose it, then the league wouldn't be
able to know who they were interested in.
So I think they're still meeting with players doing it off site.
That's also interesting. Here in Buffalo, I think there
is, unless you had something to add up, add to that Pat was
going to bring up James. There's a good comment here on
the the Tracy. This this sums up the Tracy.
People are staying. Yeah.
Yeah, Jacob has like the Ford idea this year if.
I OK, yeah, I'm a. Big Ford guy.
So the Bills don't seem to feel too much urgency to renegotiate
with James Cook, who's got one year left on his deal.
He's been pretty public about wanting to step that way up.
15,000,000 a year was, I think he tweeted a time or two.
And the GM of the Bills, Brandon Bean a while back said, yeah,
you know, we'll just after the draft, we'll think about it and
maybe even next year. So the Bills have had a pretty
smooth ride these last few years getting deals done.
But it seems like maybe with Cook, they're in a different
place. And Bulldog, I know Pat, your
big Bulldog guy, he is saying about them if they would only
draft a running back, if that's a really bad sign for Cook, I
kind of think it's a year and maybe it's just sort of swimming
with you guys and talking rookies all the time that they
should, could or should do it anyway.
Anybody have a thought on that? I think every team should draft
running back on day three. It's a great class and you know,
when else are you going to get the chance to draft like RB25
Corey Croskey Merritt or RB14 Damian Martini?
Hey man, don't disperge the good name of Mr. Croskey Merritt.
I wasn't. I was saying I.
Was being serious. Crane, Crane.
Crane guffawed at him. I didn't guffaw, no.
I'm I'm negatively he's in the horizon against Jacory Croskey
merit because like I I did rank him.
I felt like I ranked him reasonably based on him, like
having one year of football in the last 6.
People are calling him the Tyler stack of running backs.
And then everybody is like in my like everybody in my comments,
like, dude, like you're not woke to Jacory Croskey merit.
Like I think he's better than RJ Harvey.
Like, why is it in your top five running backs?
And I'm just like, this is enough, enough already.
But I don't know, it's probably good.
What point is, yes, like the Bills should draft a running
back. I think everyone should draft a
running back. I don't think they're going to
draft a running back as a threat to James Cook's role, in large
part because James Cook doesn't have that big of a role.
He plays like half the snap. So I think there's a lot
available for another running back. 44 percent, 44 percent 18
touchdowns on 44% of the snaps. It's crazy.
Last year, anybody draft Woody Marks?
No, no. No, I I'd rather I'd rather
draft my guide Lane Larrison just because it would be more
fun if Lynn Larrison was a hit. Well, maybe you'll change your
mind. Mark's hive.
In real though, I've gotten some comments about Woody Marks.
People like him. Maybe you'll change your mind
when you hear that. What I read from again from
Sigmund's article which referenced Dean Bruegler, that
his nickname is Woody. It's not his given name because
right, Because he was such a Toy Story fan and he wore a Woody
costume on Halloween seven years in a row.
I, I don't think I've ever gone back-to-back ever went in the
past back-to-back on Halloween costumes.
But seven years in a row is definitely a that's that's.
Yeah, if you if you liked James White's 8.6 half PPR points per
game, you're going to fucking love Woody Marks, dude.
Woody. Marks James White is doing it in
2018. He's an RV one.
Yeah, frankly. And when was he drafted, Jacob?
When was he? What years he drafted.
What I don't want to answer that question I.
Think what, what? What is there?
What is there to like about About what he marks?
Well, he catches passes, but he's not efficient at doing it.
But he but he does like his hands.
He runs a lot of routes, yeah. Teams trust him to be out there
for passing downs. He's fast.
If you breathe on him, he'll fall over, but he is fast.
I if I, if I'm taking a if I'm taking a passing down guy, I
want, I want a dog. I want liquinellen who is like
got dog coming out of his pores. I've, I've been taking Trevor
Etienne, who I think it's drafted like, you know, the top.
Because his because his last name is Etienne.
Yeah, I took him with his brother one time.
It was fun. I think, I think with the 412
and a rookie, I took Tyler Shug and Trevor ET in the same rookie
draft. I have to take a shower
afterwards, but just just playing the draft capital game.
I think Jaden Blue is a is a very interesting pass catching
running back who's going to be drafted ADP 174 for the next
seven years. Who is Montrell Johnson Junior?
As a running back for the University of Florida.
Fast. That's it.
That's something.
Is that who you're hoping the Bills get?
No, I I don't, I don't have AI, don't have a guy for that.
But. I think he's protected by Ray
Davis a little bit, you know, Ray Davis looked OK.
And. Yeah.
That's one one game. The one game Cook missed, Davis
went for 152 from scrimmage. So yeah, replace it.
Davis is obviously a risky guy. You know, they might add
somebody and take his job, but I think yeah, they're not.
If they draft someone, it would be weird if it was before day
three. Although I mean I guess you
could argue if you're about to pay James Cook, maybe a a day
around 3 running back isn't the worst thing.
Right then just don't just thinking about just thinking
about not being able to draft underdog.
You're in the great state of New York.
I, I got to a point, this is, you know, say what you want, I
got to a point where I closed the tab.
I'd, I'd never closed the, the underdog tab, but you know, to
prepare for today, it might not sound like it, but I opened it
and then looked back at some war room drafts and big board and
everything like that. I didn't do the little board
like Davis did. What 50 What was the feat with
the little board? 50, I mean, I'm doing 50 right
now. I'm drafting the little board as
as we speak. Brother.
Time. Let's get a peek in there.
Let's get a peek What's happening on the little board.
Time is the the most finite resource.
I've got a breeze hall Aaron Jones, Brian Thomas junior
devonte Adams, jalen Waldo, Chris olave, Matthew golden
Brock Bauer's team cooking right Sounds good.
Oh I I said this yesterday in a video and I just wanted to get
this on a a ship chasing stream. Jakori Kroski Merit is my
generation's Reem Mostert, a track star who was in college
for a billion years and never played and then hung around
forever and then was finally good.
And when did Mostert start producing?
It's not a. It's not relevant, not you.
Know in touchdowns it's. Still a best ball show, right?
A 2025 Best Ball show, not 2035. What what, What if it's a 23rd?
What if it's a 2029 Best ball show?
I don't. Think it.
That I'm very in on these guys. Most of it is Gabe Davis
adjacent in that they both had kind of out of nowhere
incredible humongous playoff games.
It might have also been 4 touchdowns, most of it against
Green Bay. Is that 4 touchdowns in that
game? Yeah, still around with the
Raiders still around. All right, guys want to get to
the last call. Yeah.
I got to pull up. I got to right.
I got someone out name. It's not going to be Corey
Croskey Merritt. I'm.
Going to look on that. It's for me, it's for me.
That's the guy I was prepared to take.
And you know when you mentioned him the first time, I just
Thunder stolen. But it's all it's already been
said. I Is there even confirmation
Jacory Kroski Merida's a real guy, You know, we have, we have,
we have the, we have the NCAA literally being like, dude.
Your number was real. Like we can't tell if he's real
that like Mike Renner, right? What if Mike Renner ranked him
running back seven, but he's not even a real guy.
Like he's just not. Who's that guy that Sports
Illustrated to the story of ON? April Fools Day.
The Finch. Yeah, maybe he's like Mike
Renner's Finch. Finch. 6 foot 8 pitcher from
Africa or something who could throw 110 miles an hour and I
don't know. That wasn't true.
That was made-up. That is, that is a whole
different time. All right, Jacori Kroski Merritt
is taken. Well, you know what?
I'm actually just going to take fastball down the middle here.
I'm going to take Mason Taylor, tight end, 32O.
I think I already took him. I think he's been taken.
We'll need to go back and figure out who he's taking.
Yeah, we got to get the graphic up next week with the list.
So I'll, I'll, I'll share with everybody.
I'll take Elijah Arroyo. Because I did the whole bit
about his name being Jason Taylor's name with a different
first letter. That's right.
I'll take I'll take Elijah Arroyo, University of Miami
Hurricanes. I think Davis had left that day.
When he did that, in Davis's defense, he had leave early, so
all right. A hard out.
Just a quick thought on the on the tight ends, I mean, how many
were we getting through Day 2? Fannin Arroyo maybe.
Taylor, maybe? Plus the.
Top Taylor for sure. Taylor might go round one.
He'll definitely go Round 2. Fannin I think probably goes day
2. Arroyo probably goes day 2.
Ferguson might go Day 2. Fannon I I implore everyone not
to freak out until after like the beginning of round four.
Like if he doesn't go within the top 120, we're allowed to freak.
You have a little faith man. He's right.
Like in the mid 50s on D JS. I know, I know, I, I obviously
we're not freaking out then we're doing victory laps.
But don't lose your shit. If he goes to like early round
four to someone, it it'll be OK. Tight ends a little different.
We're doing the premature cope like you just got a.
I'm prematurely coping. I don't.
I don't want to. I don't want to deal with the
panic. I can't remember who I've taken
in the past. I assume I've taken Jordan
James. Have I done that?
You took Jordan James Last week, right?
You took blue shit last week, the first week and then Jackson
Dart when you brought up, you know, can we take quarterback?
I've taken Harold Fannon as well.
I know I've taken Harold Fannon. He's definitely taken Fannon.
Maybe I'll, I'll take, you know what?
I'll take my boy from last year. He did fall to the fourth round.
I'll take Troy Franklin. All right.
There we go. Troy.
Franklin, I'm going to take. I have, I have a particularly
disgusting pick. I'll take Amari Cooper.
OK. Oh.
God. I am with you.
Dude. I just got a bet three sides.
This is a family show.
I don't. Think it is.
It's definitely not what family is like.
Gather around. Family.
Gather it's time to watch 80 feet chasing around the dinner
table. No school today.
Grab your Swansons while we. Watch 10 AM.
You don't have to go to school. Isn't on because Pat hasn't
started this stream yet, but it will be soon.
Gather round family. I'm just picturing like a family
with a nuclear family and like. Dude, I'm stroking out right
now. A Mari Cooper, bro.
Look, you see. You know what, He's going to
slime somewhere. He's not just going to be out of
the league. Yes, he could be.
He stinks now. Mike, who's on the ground?
Is Amari Cooper watched? It looked that way, but it's
still recent enough that he didn't look washed.
You know, you could make excuses for the the Cleveland scene
there first half of the season. You know, they had a wrist
injury. That probably doesn't make him
slow, so the the fact that he hasn't signed says it all.
But I'm with Jacob, he'll play. Maybe not in the playoff weeks,
but. At this point, he's not going to
sign because teams, teams wouldn't ever sign someone
that's not a priority like the last month or so, because now
they're waiting until it doesn't affect their compact formula.
So they're. So he'll sign after the draft,
yeah. Which is also which is the same
cope that that we were doing like with the Melvin Gordon the
year that he ended up being superwashed, but.
This is how people end up on practice squads.
This is how adult men end up on practice squads.
You know what, it'll just be it'll, it'll be really
entertaining if I have to like sit through watching Amari
Cooper, you know, two years ago had like 50 points in the best
ball playoff. He was, he was the guy that you
needed. And if he, if he shows up and,
and has a week like that, we'll, we'll at least have this moment
to, to remember, to remember why.
Week 16 in Houston and then they played the Thursday night the
following week and he sat in the in the fantasy finals half of
that game. Yeah.
Well, there are high stakes here, Jacob.
So you're you're brave to go out on a limb here with this, this
pick and last call. Davis, you got you already.
Everybody went. I regret it.
I regret. It he said on the same stream he
made the pick on. Ruin this election.
I just want that to be on the record when this inevitably gets
clipped that the I regret it was seconds after he made the pick I
regret. It I regret taking 37 year old
Amari Cooper. She's a predictive.
Game. Wouldn't you love that?
Wouldn't you love that at one of the post draft NFL team news
conferences? What was what was up with this
pick? Yeah, we shouldn't have done
that. That was a mistake.
That would be I. Forgot.
If a team, if a team immediately regretted it, like, oh dude, we
took Jalen Miller at 21, that was a mistake.
I mean that would be all time. The most of the panic, pick the
most. We got was panic.
Pick. McVeigh on the Patriots pick,
was it Cole Strange? And then he sort of like was
told about it right when he was sitting at the at the table and
like. Yeah, yeah.
But the I didn't forget someone was embedded.
It might have been Peter King. Someone was embedded with the
with the Ravens that year. They picked likely because
they'd already taken Kolar and and I believe and the.
Ravens only take tight ends and pairs in the draft.
They they. Just got sniped on Calvin
Austin. They got like fully psyched.
Like they didn't have any other backup player.
Like you're just like, we're going to get Calvin Austin a few
picks. Hell yeah.
They were super excited. And then the Steelers took him
and they were literally like, like Harbaugh turned to Greg
Roman. I think he's like, could you use
this guy? Maybe he's like, oh, yeah, OK.
And they took. They only draft items in pairs
and it's always the second one who's better.
Yeah, both true. It's.
Always the second one, who's better?
All right, let's go around. Just like what's coming up this
week. What do you guys do for the
draft? We'll, we'll be on Thursday
night together. We'll be on Thursday night,
yeah. Absolutely.
I signed up for the 11:30 shift very wisely because the Bills
pick so late. That's usually around 11:30.
Yeah, you and Davis will be around together.
Dave should be getting up in the morning at 11. 30 at night.
No, I'm going to be, I'm going to be, I'm going to be fucking
up the rest of my week by staying up to watch the Chiefs
take some fucking lineman that I don't care about.
Well, it's like normally there's a good, like each of the last
four years there's been good intrigue on the Chiefs
potentially taking a skill position player and there is
like absolutely 0 intrigue on that this year.
Like just no, no, like it's going to be.
And in fact, they will probably even they're they got to be
like, I don't know, plus 110 to trade out of the first round
entirely to just to just be like, we don't need it.
Henderson to the Chiefs would be very fun, but I just feel tough
given the way the Super Bowl went.
They need to go back in the trenches.
Right. It would be, it would be a tough
scene. I, I think, I think you're
having a hard time selling. Yourself.
That after what's happening with the offensive line.
I agree. I agree.
So Thursday night for the ship chasing round one extravaganza.
What's call it that? Can't wait.
And that'll be fun. Pat, what else is coming up for
you? I'm jumping on later today with
Daniel Razz. He's going to whip up a mock
draft. We're going to go through it.
He's as dialed in as anybody to this stuff, so that'll be fun to
get his thoughts here as we head into the draft.
I'm going to I'm going to have another wide receiver write up
then I'm going to finish up today.
So that'll be, you know, out just just ahead of the deadline
there. And who knows, maybe if I have
time I'll write up a little Dylan Gabriel thoughts for for
dynasty purposes, obviously well off the.
Best old radar future? Yeah, for.
For your CFL dynasty leagues, I and, and honestly, Tyler Schuck
will be in that article. So oh.
No, he. Can't make it?
Where's? Where's your Riley welder think
piece? Leonard the whole.
Thing piece. Oh, Riley Leonard.
Riley Leonard is the new Strebler brother.
Yeah, Oh my God, the Bombers just re signed in with a torn
ACLI. Don't know what we're doing, but
anyway, Chad Kelly. Still in that league or has he
been banished from Toronto? What happened from Kelly?
He so he he was allowed a 17th chance and then he he then took
a debilitating injury in the semi finals.
So I'm not sure who is this next season.
Chad Kelly. Kelly.
Chad Kelly. Oh yeah, didn't he?
I was going to say, last I read he had violated the.
EFL Player. Policy.
Yeah, yeah, you know who who? Here's a blast from the past for
all my CFL and NFL Bros out there.
You know who's a really good in the CFL?
Or at least was Kadeem Carey for the Toronto.
Yeah, he was really good. Yeah, just found that one out
the other day. Can I?
So I remember the Monday Night Football game against the Los
Angeles Chargers, then the San Diego Chargers, when everybody
was prepared to start Jeremy Langford in place of Matt Forte,
and then Kadeem Carey took the first drive and everybody
freaked out, and then Langford played the entire rest of the
game. Anyway, that's a that's a good
remember. Remember those several guys for
you? Warren Moon is my CFL
quarterback for all time. Warren Moon Eskimos.
They were the then it's in Eskimos now they're the Elks.
Probably enough CFL. Content for me.
Can I propose a game before we get out of here before the dash?
Yeah, so in that range, that Tracy range that we talked
about, he would certainly be eligible here.
We pick a running back because this this comment here B Rob
feels too expensive at 200 feels the one O 1 to be naked.
Let's pick a running back in that range who gets naked and
then who survives and is is comes out comes out of the the
you know, the bomb shelter and it's like, you know, like the
the open to fall out and then the the world is his oyster,
right. So who's who gets naked?
And then who survives? Anyone have one?
I'll say Jalen Warren survives. He's the cockroach.
I still. Jalen Warren.
Is not. I love you for that much.
Thanks, Mike. I still would.
Not want. MMMMMMMM, the Steelers.
More of a Mad Dog chant, really. The Steelers should not be
drafting a running back high. They just should not be doing
that. Maybe late.
They're going to brother round 3, Damian Mart Round three,
Damian Martinez, University of Miami.
That card's already filled out the the G Ms. already written
it. He's just ready to hand the
ready to hand the card in. Somebody want to say Camara?
Oh, Camara's, Yeah, Camara's destined to survive, I think.
I'm going to, I'm going to say Tony Pollard.
I think the Pollard might get like.
Turbo Pollard, Yeah. Like like early 2nd rounds, like
you know? Oh I see, I still think he'd be
fine. Pollard's used to being the
Pollard. He just needs a new Zeke.
Pollard is very used to being the Pollard.
No. What's gonna happen with Spears?
Let's let's see. Yeah, he's gonna compete with
Spears. I mean, he's.
He already nuked himself, brother.
We're near an expiration date on that.
Team SO. Aaron Jones.
What about Aaron Jones? I think he's got preemptively.
In a. Controlled fashion like Jordan,
Jordan Mason was like right, you and Sif.
It's like you, you don't. There's the nuclear like bomb,
but then there's like the smaller missiles, the guided
missiles that that was like Jordan Mason like it.
Was like, well, he's like the the radiation where maybe he's
like gonna like Hulk out, you know, then maybe maybe it was
low enough where he actually his super powers now.
Did you guys read a quote about him chasing older women?
And he was like age is just they're like, what do you feel
about playing at 30? And he was like age is just a
number. I've been saying that since I
was trying to date older women that.
Was a good. Thing that was that was a really
good bit from Aaron Jones. Well done, Aaron.
I love Aaron Jones. He's he's like in my top five of
NFL players I would want to hang out with for a day.
Like he's so cool. He bare sombreros.
He's, he's, he's into older women, just he's like a fun guy.
He put on one of those hats after a playoff game when he was
with Green Bay, and I have the same hat.
It's time for me to go get that. You guys.
You guys, Yeah, would like it. I'll, I'll say that, well, I'll
say that Jerome Ford is going to be the unlikely survivor so that
the brim would go other directions.
Well, he you think he's the survivor, is the one that he's
it's his job. Yes, I think he's the weak one.
Starting running back. I think they're going to draft a
guy on day three, but I think I think Ford is their week 1
starting running back and I'm going to say that that Travis
ETN and Tank Bigsby get double naked.
Yeah, that feels, that feels quite possible.
But nuking for them does seem very possible because they've
got rid of like the rest of the offense and they're just like
eyeing up the running backroom, so.
We're like it's. Like everyone else got, everyone
else has been assassinated and you guys are just kind of
hanging around. Because we're safe, right?
On here. Right, right, right.
Yeah, yeah, we have a, we have a murder suicide coming.
I think the textbook Jaguars running backroom.
Also would be hilariously bad if if they used, you know, real
draft capital on running back. Yeah, just.
Travion Henderson and I don't know who's who's your favorite
220 LB guy. Woody Martinez is my go to.
Yeah, Martinez, but Martinez. We drafted Damian Martinez to 13
different NFL teams on ADP chasing soft season.
Just getting started. All right everybody.
Thanks for your time today. Thanks for watching and
listening. Thursday night will be a big
night. Enjoy the draft all weekend.
Should be great. See you next time.
Hang on, I gotta get the answer. Tough.
Yeah, Tough scenes.
All right. See you.
See you for the draft.