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We are through two weeks of the 
2025 NFL season, and I'm 

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starting to think that maybe I 
should have been drafting 

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Jonathan Taylor over Ladd 
Mcconkey. 

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This is Pat Fryer, Helmo. 
This is what This is what I'm 

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Pat. 
Anita Hand job exercise. 

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Jamar. 
Alpha play Chase. 

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Are you kidding? 
You can't handle the heat? 

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It looks like we're finally at 
this point here, right? 

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I totally jumped the gun there. 
Had to cut the cold open short 

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there, I'm I'm sure you deemed 
it. 

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You were. 
You were just going too long. 

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You just thought it was 
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should be drafting Jonathan 
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Overlap the coffee. 
Yeah, I, I, I didn't, I didn't, 

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I didn't like that. 
Yeah, I was, I was checking my 

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exposures to, you know, I wanted
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open since he's the cover boy 
for this week on the thumbnail. 

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And I, I was looking at my 
exposures and it's like, what 

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can I say about Jonathan Taylor?
It's like I'm like basically 

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even with the field on it, I'm 
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So I can't be like, oh, I'm so 
underweight. 

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Just trying to think of 
something funny. 

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And then I looked, I was like, 
oh, yeah, I I should have 

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clicked this guy over. 
Lev Mcconkey. 

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Yeah. 
Anyway, let's get into it. 

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I think we have plenty of we, 
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the, the talking points about 
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particularly rookie running 
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that for the the next segment. 
Yeah, we're going to be 

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efficient tonight. 
I mean, last show we were like, 

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OK, we're going to be tight. 
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gate strong and we went over 2 
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We're going to try and be a 
little tighter, get you all the 

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important Nuggets, but maybe in 
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tonight. 
So here we go. 

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Yeah. 
So I'm, I'm sharing this, right?

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Yes, I am. 
And so the way I'm, the way the,

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my kind of biggest reaction on 
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lot of guys who had a lot of 
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have, have not been efficient so
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And, and normally inefficiency 
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lot of dropbacks because if your
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you're, you're going to be 
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points. 
So you have to throw it a lot. 

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And but it, it, it, it is still 
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lot of these guys with a lot of 
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their offense, but the, the, the
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there so far. 
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of like a, an efficiency 
regression play and, and some of

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these guys can deliver breakouts
at going forward. 

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Yeah, I, I, there's a bunch of 
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about through the lens of, you 
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opportunity through the volume, 
through the drop backs per game.

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And I want to add a little bit 
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because I think it's, it's 
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So for example, like Dak 
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overtime. 
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against the Giants total. 
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backs per game. 
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pretty pass heavy, but I think 
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inflated. 
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see it trend down over the 
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because it's such a high number 
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Spencer Rattler, I think that is
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Saints will probably be bad and 
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to be emphasizing pace and he 
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past. 
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be reasonably sticky that that's
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expect it to regress as much as 
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this is a tricky one. 
There's a lot to parse here. 

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The first one is the Raiders 
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last night, like one of the 
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Just getting absolutely 
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I mean even after Khalil Mack 
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gruesome elbow injury. 
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Trico, but his arm was going in 
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Yeah, I, I, I got to confess, I 
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game, but yeah, I I mean, all 
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offensive line stinking out 
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Some teams when the offensive 
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because it's easier for a bad 
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quarterback killed. 
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all game and you're like, 
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run. 
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more like Dolphins direction 
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have to pass, but we're just 
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ball out really quickly. 
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doing a lot of deeper concepts 
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receivers too. 
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Tucker, they've got Deonte 
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running deeper routes down the 
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philosophically and stick with 
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higher number of drop backs per 
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shifting into a more run heavy 
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I would say Gino has a good 
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Where DAC, I think I know 
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Rattler, I think he's generally 
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Gino. 
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It could stay really high, it 
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The other one that I wanted to 
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Really, really interesting one 
because week one it was a ton of

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drop backs. 
Week 2, not a ton of attempts 

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come out of the drop backs and 
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either. 
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drop backs overall. 
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the running backs. 
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fewer targets in Week 2 and the 
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staff out of Week 1 was that we 
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in the running game. 
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utilization in the running game 
and those that are slappy minded

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like myself thought this means 
it's Trayvon Henderson wheels up

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in week two baby. 
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And that is not what they meant.
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the ball more and they actually 
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Gibson more involved. 
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Gibson is the one that saw his 
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Andre and Henderson saw their 
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to Gibson. 
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interesting one. 
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think were pretty important 
context of guys that have that 

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room to to see improvement in 
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adding efficiency to this high 
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away as I as I as I kind of 
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if they're going to pass more, 
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PFF, their pass blocking, their 
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pass blocking PFF grades are 
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their run block win grade is dog
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It's 32 last in the week and 
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I can be, I feel like there's a 
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path blocking has actually been 
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to, to do these kind of long A 
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I guess that that's what makes 
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And, and in the context of their
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good, then I kind of think that 
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is, is them actually continuing 
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And, and I, I, I do think that 
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this kind of resolves is, is 
more RAM is how do I say it? 

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It, it is still continued strong
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the, the drop box and, and 
probably the A dot, but we're 

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probably seeing some, we're 
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negative variance there. 
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because outside of Brock Bowers 
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options aren't, aren't 
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Brock Bowers, those seem to be 
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Who, who, who knows how much, 
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do expect that to, to get 
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Week 1 than than what we saw in 
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I mean, it was the Chargers were

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in Gino's lap like almost 
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the majority of drop back 
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So I, I wonder if they just had 
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great in week 1 and Week 2 is 
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Or maybe I'm, I'm just, you 
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Week 2 and it's, it's vivid to 
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it was so bad by my perception. 
We'll, we'll talk more about 

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Bowers and his role in the 
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the straw that stirs the drink 
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there. 
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defensive scheme things that I 
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that I want to talk about, but I
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
We'll go into more of the 

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receivers. 
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kind of coming out as, as middle
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of data. 
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better than their run blocking. 
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good note in the same vein of 
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discussed, we had kind of talked
about before the show, guys that

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we identified on this chart that
have room to benefit in their 

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would suggest or or they're, you
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currently. 
And so a lot of these are names 

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we already mentioned, but Dak 
Prescott, Geno Smith, Baker is 1

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But I do think we've seen Baker 
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just last season. 
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see him, you know, have that 
efficiency come back or, or 

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improve a little bit from here. 
Even if it's not a sustained 

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thing, just having efficiency 
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And obviously Mahomes as well. 
Now I think for Mahomes, it's 

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pretty easy to say you might 
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hey, he needs, if you're worthy 
back, you need Rashi Rice or 

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something to help him out in the
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That's probably similar. 
Some probably similar with Baker

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that you probably he probably 
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catalyst there. 
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that we mentioned already is 
Drake May, who Week 1 didn't 

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And then, but last week we too 
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lower volume and a lot of it was
to the running backs and not the

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not the receivers and tight 
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The thing that I'm seeing from 
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Like they're it's not even like,
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It's like there is no one that 
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So I, I see this as like a 
vacuum for opportunity. 

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So one of the players that I, I 
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consistently over the summer was
Kyle Williams too high on Kyle 

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Williams. 
How could I ever take Kyle 

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Williams over Demario Douglas? 
Demario's getting all this camp 

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He's he's clearly the second 

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best, you know, pass catcher on 
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these beats, all this, these 
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like, OK, I see we should have 
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for the Patriots, not good for 
Pop Douglas. 

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Correct. 
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talent. 
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modicum of talent here, be that 
Trayvon Henderson or Kyle 

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Williams, someone with a a large
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project how good they are. 
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Trayvon Henderson going forward 
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room in this offense. 
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such a huge portion of the pie 
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if you think through like a a 
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backfield where there's just no 
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dominates everything just 
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everyone else sucks. 
So I guess we just give it all 

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That could happen here on the 

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Patriots. 
We just don't know who that is 

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one candidate for most likely to
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enormous share of the pie in the
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isn't earning that volume. 
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signal that, hey, there's 
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means that all you have to do 
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out all these other guys. 
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Yeah, so I just, I backed want 
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So Geno Smith's average time to 

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throw last night was 3.2 
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working out. 
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we, we've covered Gino, we're on
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So I, I, I kind of want to save 
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receiver chart. 
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I see digs down to a 58% right 
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find kind of bizarre. 
And, and then I see what's his 

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name? 
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35%. 
Bootay, he actually led the team

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in rounds at 74%. 
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and Hunter Henry at 68%, Austin 
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They I, I, I think it's like 
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are just crying out, please, 
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receiver here. 
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where, where Henderson is, is a 
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of your your receiving game on 
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But he's a good candidate. 
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Kyle Williams breaking out would
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for the the New England offense.
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need it. 
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cover with the Patriots guys 
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rushing share grow as a 
quarterback, like see their 

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bubble size increase. 
You'll notice, you know, Lamar 

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Jackson pretty big bubble, 
Justin Fields big bubble, right?

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These guys that are are rushing 
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smaller than Josh Allen, smaller
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the season as we saw last year. 
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just be, you know, getting 
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develops, you know, Josh 
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use that strength of Drake Mays 
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was out of structure stuff. 
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scramble. 
I do think that that's something

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where we could see that get 
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season goes on. 
So just the fact that he has 

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room to grow from an efficiency 
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his legs, I think makes him one 
of the most exciting 

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quarterbacks to to target is 
like, hey, this is a guy with a 

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lot of room for the upside going
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And just to just to agree with 
you to underline that and he did

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have 10 rush attempts in Week 2 
and he only saw like 31 yards 

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that that's got to be a 
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I, I, I we do not expect Drake 
May to average and three yards 

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5 or 6 by the end of the year. 
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of maybe optimistic case, but he
he is he is rushing. 

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It's just like it, I guess one 
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said well, was contained and 
Drake may rushing and so I but I

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don't, I would not expect I, I, 
I would have expect his 

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efficiency on those scrambles to
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The other group of quarterbacks 
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because the way I'm looking at 
how we can break down this chart

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and, and add value to you guys 
is where are the guys where we 

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could see them improve from 
beyond where they are already at

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on this chart? 
Like I don't want you to just 

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look at the chart and be like, 
all right, I'm going to play the

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guys that look good on the 
chart. 

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Easy game. 
Like I'm trying to find the 

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emerging trends where, hey, this
player could improve even 

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further from where they're at. 
And so this cohort is guys that 

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are already efficient. 
And could just explode if put 

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into the right game script where
they're forced to pass a little 

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bit more. 
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with the highest adjusted yards 
per attempt. 

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That's Lamar Jackson Guy throws 
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Basically all goes to nobodies. 
You know, you get 2 to Devonta 

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as a Walker. 
You get one to Thailand Wallace 

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and then one to DeAndre Hopkins.
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Hopkins, but just, you know, 
very few attempts and only 225 

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yards or something because they 
just didn't need to do anything 

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more than that. 
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who's been ultra, ultra 
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hasn't been pushed yet this 
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You know, no, no need. 
He he's a really exciting one. 

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The Packers offense has just 
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You just need them to run into a
team that could actually put up 

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some serious points against 
their very formidable defense 

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and love could be an absolute 
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And then the last one, I mean, I
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this guy last week and I'm just 
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It it kind of feels like the 
year where I was saying, hey, CJ

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Stroud and the Texans pass 
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someone a Millie maker, just, 
you know, stack them every 

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single week until it works. 
And then a couple weeks after 

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that, Uticao ends up with CJ 
Stroud triple stack and wins the

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Millie. 
And and so the one I'm calling 

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out here is Justin Herbert. 
We talked about it last week 

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where this is going to be a 
really good season as far as the

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Russian profile for Justin 
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night. 
He's very involved in the 

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Russian game. 
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expectation was high again. 
It was above 14% again. 

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That's two weeks in a row. 
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And, and, and what's interesting
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such a high PROE, their Dropbox 
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Like that's like what 36 
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So these are games that in 
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will probably be looking at like
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is just so different now that 
even in in games where they're 

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not really pushed that much, 
they're still trying to win. 

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Where's in a game where if their
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obviously they they're like 
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would probably go up a Todd. 
So would their things like their

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pace like and and and and things
like that. 

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And, and if you're able to keep 
that efficiency where the reason

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they have to increase the drop 
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scoring points, not because 
Herbert is being inefficient. 

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Like you could see some monster 
monster weeks. 

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Yeah, he was still on the 
Showdown slate last night. 

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I went in and manually adjusted 
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He was like my highest projected
player on the slate by a good 

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ways. 
He's my highest owned captain 

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player. 
I slam him. 

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I'm like, I'm so smart. 
I'm following my own advice. 

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The game plays out, it looks 
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Herbert's the highest scoring 
player on the slate and it was 

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my worst showdown slate for ROI 
on the season so far. 

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So that's just the way it goes. 
You can be totally right about 

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something and you can still lose
all your money, but boy, it 

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feels great to be right. 
I didn't have any other 

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quarterback notes. 
Did you have anyone else you 

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wanted to talk about before we 
get into running? 

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Notes No, I, I think we kind of 
covered the, the, the, the basic

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trends here. 
I, I mean, we've got it. 

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I, I, I think we made this note 
last week where you have a bunch

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of like bad teams with a bunch 
of drop backs. 

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So, so their teams are still 
useful for fantasy. 

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You're talking Saints, even the 
Panthers are kind of 

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interesting, Browns interesting 
not as good last week, but 

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you're still seeing that crazy 
attempts and which is helpful, 

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but I I don't want to spend too 
much more more time on it. 

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So let's say let's move on. 
Actually, I'm going to zoom out.

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So let's move on. 
So we taught and given kind of 

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the the freak out, the panic 
that I told you so around them 

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rookie running backs, we thought
it would be pretty useful to 

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look at pre admitting pretty 
quickly where the the rookies in

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23 and 24 we're looking around 
Week 2. 

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And and my kind of comps that 
the comps that I came out with 

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where you look at kind of Bijan,
Bijan Robinson, who I think he 

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was kind of the floor case for 
Ashton Genti where he had the 

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Arthur Schmidt usage and he was 
like the RB one, but not not 

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getting the dominant bell cow 
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And so I think that floor kind 
of floor case is playing out for

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Genti, especially seeing bizarre
things like lobby and taking it 

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clear like got a habit snaps for
the Raiders. 

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And then we'll see he's in a 
pretty similar spot to Hampton 

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as well. 
We'll get on to Hampton. 

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The other one that was 
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or at least for me was Gibbs. 
Gibbs here at this point, he was

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in the same part of the chart 
that the Henderson and and 

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what's the other guy, RJ Harvey 
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And obviously Gibbs was a 
frustrating start to the year, 

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but then and ended that year 
would it would it as a pretty 

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nice piece And what am I 
forgetting that 1 from 23. 

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From 23, I think Tajay Spears 
also shows up here and it's so 

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just like to give you an idea of
hey, here's a couple different 

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types of outcomes you can get 
from rookies like obviously 

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Tajay Spears nowhere close to 
how exciting an end to the 

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season Jameer Gibbs has where 
Gibbs is going on to, you know, 

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the end of the season. 
Gibbs was literally having a 

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legendary running back stretch. 
He he was scoring. 

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I want to say there's a 
four-game stretch where he 

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scored over 21 points per game. 
And I think in three of those 

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games, he was over 26 like he 
was he was going crazy. 

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And so. 
Yeah, yeah, I remember that now.

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He he he he had a monster Ant 
where you had the, you had the 

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Montgomery injury. 
So he took over for a while, 

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then Montgomery came back and 
then they're like, yeah, well, 

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Gibbs is still really good. 
So. 

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But you see how I, I, I try to 
manipulate you there until I was

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talking about the good ones and 
then I was making you the, the 

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rookie bad guy. 
But I think it's important too 

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to to talk about, you know, hey,
like you can get some, not all 

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these guys are going to be 
Jameer Gibbs. 

444
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Obviously, you know, Gibbs is 
right, right, Right. 

445
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:19,640
Of course. 
Hey, don't panic yet. 

446
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,360
Your guy could still turn into a
Jameer Gibbs level smash, but 

447
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,600
also like Tajae, Spears is in 
the range of outcomes too. 

448
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,280
But let's move on to 2024. 
So last year and we'll take a 

449
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,280
look at where the rookies land 
here. 

450
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,200
So actually I am neuter when I 
thought I wanted to mention for 

451
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,320
23 years. 
You'll notice A Chan isn't even 

452
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,520
on the chart here. 
Yeah, that's a good call. 

453
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,840
Yeah, he doesn't even show up in
Week 2. 

454
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:50,200
He's not even really seeing the 
field yet. 

455
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,640
And so then 20/24/2024, I think 
I'm glad we talked about 23 

456
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,160
first, because that, that seems 
like a more normal rookie year. 

457
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,800
24 is a little bit of a weird 
one where that was kind of seen 

458
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,520
as like that and, and not a very
good class. 

459
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:11,200
And, but the, the ones that the 
ones that are kind of 

460
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,760
interesting here is, is you have
the Bucky Irving where he turns 

461
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,920
into like absolute dominant 
league winner. 

462
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:23,360
And then you're, you're at what,
25%, 30% snap rate. 

463
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,960
Now, obviously he's priced quite
differently to a lot of the 

464
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,600
rookies this year. 
But it just goes to show you 

465
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,480
that, that somebody who kind of 
like he took over that backfield

466
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,640
by the end of the year to start 
the year, he, he was the backup.

467
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,760
And, and, and that's kind of 
like that's the, that, that's a 

468
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,760
lot how a lot of these guys 
start just because they're, 

469
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,120
well, just because they're 
backup now. 

470
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,400
Like it's so a long season. 
And then I think some of the 

471
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,560
other ones that we had last year
was like Tyrone Tracy and he's 

472
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,360
not on this chart, but ends up 
being important. 

473
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,920
And but then some of the other 
the kind of like the the less 

474
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,480
encouraging comps are like like 
Quorum. 

475
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Is there anyone else? 
Can't take Bigsby's on here. 

476
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240
Actually, this was does Bigsby's
second year. 

477
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,680
Yeah, yeah, sophomore year. 
And then he's not. 

478
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,120
He's not on the 23 chart. 
Yeah, and then you have Braylon 

479
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,200
Allen as well. 
It's like, hey, this is what the

480
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,880
bad. 
Braylon Allen got the 

481
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,120
opportunity early. 
But then what? 

482
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,920
This he, Braylon Allen's what it
looks like when your guy stinks,

483
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,720
right? 
Like oops. 

484
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,840
Yeah. 
He stinks. 

485
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,720
Oh. 
Oh, well, you know that that 

486
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,440
does happen. 
Yeah. 

487
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Just for me, it's it's a little 
frustrating to hear people like 

488
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,120
so quickly dismiss all these 
like the just how polarized it 

489
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,960
is or everyone talks. 
I feel like there's two sides 

490
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,880
where the one side is, Oh, oh, 
my rookies are going to smash 

491
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,880
down the I can't believe all 
these normies don't get that 

492
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,320
rookies come on down the road. 
And then the other side is, oh, 

493
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,880
the rookies aren't doing 
anything yet. 

494
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,800
They're all dead. 
The the truth is in the middle 

495
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,640
of that where hey, dude, a lot 
of the rookies are going to 

496
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,440
stink. 
Like there's a whole bunch of 

497
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Braylon Allen's and and Taji 
Spears and it's it's a spectrum,

498
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,960
right? 
Like Braylon Allen total stinker

499
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520
like not useful at all for 
fantasy last year. 

500
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,480
Tajay Spears like somewhat 
useful as a rookie. 

501
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,800
And then you like get levelled 
up to the Bucky Irving that 

502
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,040
Jameer Gibbs level success those
hits right. 

503
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,000
But it's it's a spectrum. 
Not. 

504
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Not everyone's going to be these
binary outputs a. 

505
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,600
Bigger percentage of them to be 
hits this year based on the kind

506
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,520
of like the talent of the class,
but there's still going to be 

507
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,520
guys who who just miss. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

508
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Let's get into the the charts 
for this year. 

509
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,080
I actually, yeah, go go to this 
year's charts and then can you 

510
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,560
go to the backup chart first 
'cause there's a guy that I want

511
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,680
to talk about while I'm 
thinking. 

512
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,080
Yeah, Yeah. 
Go ahead. 

513
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640
OK, yeah, he doesn't even make 
the backup chart yet. 

514
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,640
So this is, God, this is such a 
great one to talk about 'cause 

515
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,400
he's following like the Devana 
Chan archetype, like the Bucky 

516
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,880
Irving where, you know, a Chan 
not even on the chart in Week 2.

517
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,400
And then Bucky Irving like, oh, 
he's just a backup, you know. 

518
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,800
But what Bucky had going for him
was he looked really good every 

519
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,920
time he touched the ball. 
Right now, the one knock that I 

520
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,960
had on Bucky last year was like 
those big runs that Bucky would 

521
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,600
get. 
The chunk plays weren't 

522
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,800
touchdowns. 
He he doesn't turn them into 

523
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,280
like these big Saquon Barkley 
level or Jonathan Taylor level. 

524
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,880
Ha ha. 
I, I got through the defense. 

525
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Now it's a 80 yard touchdown 
lol. 

526
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,480
Like enjoy trying to catch me. 
But Bucky didn't really do that 

527
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,880
'cause he doesn't have that Top 
Gear that like Elite. 

528
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,440
Finish. 
He doesn't have the long speed. 

529
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,840
Right. 
But he's still so good that it 

530
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,840
doesn't really matter. 
He's just going to be so 

531
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,160
efficient. 
And it's like, you know, there's

532
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,080
some guys where it's death by 
1000 cuts. 

533
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,320
They're going to get you through
a bunch of five yard carries 

534
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360
over and over. 
Bucky's going to just slice you 

535
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,280
like with three or four big 
cuts. 

536
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,280
It's like, here's a 20 yard 
gash, here's a 25 yard gash. 

537
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,000
And it doesn't matter that he's 
not finishing the runs because 

538
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,720
Buck like with a touchdown 
because don't worry, he'll he'll

539
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,400
get there eventually. 
But the player that reminds me 

540
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,440
of that Bucky archetype where 
he's ultra efficient. 

541
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,600
He's also a tough tackle. 
He's not just this like speed 

542
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,920
freak where oh, he's only 
breaking long plays because he's

543
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,440
so fast like he's also breaking 
tackles. 

544
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,960
He's useful in the passing game.
He's useful in the rushing game 

545
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,640
between the tackles and also 
outside is Basil Tootin. 

546
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,760
Tootin is the one to me that has
the Jameer Gibbs, Bucky Irving 

547
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:43,320
level end of season upside like 
he is the at all costs my 

548
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,760
strongest bet to be a league 
winner by the end of the season 

549
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,200
of all of the rookie running 
backs. 

550
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,520
Like this is going to sound 
crazy, but if you just told me 

551
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,360
straight up like you are allowed
to have one of these guys on 

552
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,960
your roster for the rest of 
season, who do you want it to 

553
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,640
be? 
Genti, Hampton Scataboo, Harvey 

554
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,120
Henderson, Tooten. 
I will just take tooten over all

555
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,160
of them. 
And and that's that's what the 

556
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,520
caveat of like you're telling me
that this player has to be the 

557
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,240
league winner, got to be the guy
that smashes. 

558
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,840
I think he is the highest 
ceiling because he has all of 

559
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,520
the stuff that made Bucky 
fantastic in the scheme with the

560
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,320
coach that made Bucky fantastic,
and he looks like Bucky. 

561
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,880
Plus as far as his skill set, 
he's Bucky. 

562
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,560
But he can finish those runs 
with touchdowns. 

563
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,760
So I am extremely encouraged by 
Tooten. 

564
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,080
I think it's wheels all the way 
up on him. 

565
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,560
If you're in a A league with 
trades, trade what you need to 

566
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,360
trade for two right now. 
I don't care if it seems like an

567
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,400
overpay like trade what you need
to trade to go get him. 

568
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,800
That's my my stance. 
Yeah, what's interesting is he 

569
00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:00,160
was he only had 16% of the snaps
or no, sorry, that was that was 

570
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520
not correct. 
He only had 25% of the snaps 

571
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,639
last week, but on and what on 
what is it? 

572
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,719
8 rush, 8 rush attempts, 6 
routes that he converted into 

573
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,320
two targets. 
He scored 15 points and I think 

574
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,639
it's it's it's safe to say that 
he's earned more, more playing 

575
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,880
time going forward. 
Yeah. 

576
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,600
What's funny is that when you 
were started that I, I was, I 

577
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,120
thought you were going to angle 
it into Judkins and I was like, 

578
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,320
wow, that's really strong to say
Goodkins. 

579
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,360
But Toot makes a lot, a lot more
sense. 

580
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,920
I mean, Judkins is a great, 
great Segway partner because I 

581
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,080
think Judkins is also a really 
strong. 

582
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,040
Here's the problem with Judkins 
though. 

583
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:48,360
The offense may be so bad that 
he gets a little capped from his

584
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,960
touchdown equity. 
And I think that having the door

585
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,560
opened to Dylan Sampson is 
really harmful to him because 

586
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,240
there's a universe where Judkins
never has the the stuff that 

587
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:05,400
keeps him out of training camp 
in the summer and he's just so 

588
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,520
entrenched as the number one 
that he's like a three down 

589
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,680
workhorse. 
He's he's very capable in the 

590
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,760
passing game. 
He wasn't like a do nothing back

591
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,840
in the passing game in college. 
He could have easily been, you 

592
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,960
know, 3 down, stay on the field 
for every snap, you know, play 2

593
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,280
minute drill type of guy. 
But I think they got to see 

594
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,400
enough of Samson to be like, Oh 
yeah, this guy's pretty cool. 

595
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,040
We like him a lot. 
And then the fact that Ford like

596
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,200
the only useful thing that they 
like him for is pass catching 

597
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,440
also is like Judkins has just 
left enough of a window open now

598
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,040
that those guys will will hurt 
him a little bit and not they're

599
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,720
going to steal some of those 
high value touches in the 

600
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,360
receiving game, which is a bit 
of a bummer. 

601
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,920
Yeah. 
So I think what I think about 

602
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,360
Judkins is that he's so dominant
as a rusher. 

603
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,960
Like I, I guess there's a 
there's a different question, a 

604
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,280
different conversation about the
receiving stuff, which is what 

605
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,960
you're leaning at. 
I think he's going to 

606
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,720
consolidate almost all the, all 
the major rushing stuff. 

607
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,400
And he when you, when you 
combine how like how, how 

608
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,320
dominant his rushing profile was
in college, it was a very like 

609
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,600
he was like immediately as a 
freshman, like dominant rusher, 

610
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,040
which is a very strong sign. 
And then obviously he was part 

611
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,760
of like arguably one of the best
college rosters of all time and 

612
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,320
a focal point for that. 
So you, you kind of, you add in 

613
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,760
what Gretsch calls the Longview 
stuff, which is very, very 

614
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,960
strong for him in my opinion. 
And then you kind of add in 

615
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,960
where he was extremely efficient
on them against the Ravens, 

616
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,680
which is I, I, yeah, the, the 
Browns struggled overall. 

617
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,880
So him, him being good and him, 
I think he had a, if I'm looking

618
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,640
at the next chance that stuff, 
he had 2.2 yards over expected 

619
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:08,400
per attempt on 10 attempts. 
So what does he had like 6.1 

620
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,880
yards per attempt. 
And then obviously you're, 

621
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,640
you're going to put up good tape
when you do that. 

622
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,800
But him doing that and then the 
other guys all struggling in the

623
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,000
running game is, is, is probably
a good sign that he's going to 

624
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,200
wed. 
I, I, I don't know, I guess I 

625
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,880
have to caveat this with the 
pending suspension stuff, but I 

626
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,720
do think that the way this goes 
is he strangleholds the running 

627
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:38,120
game. 
And then my other take is that 

628
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,200
Samson is such a good receiver 
that I, I, I, I do think he, he 

629
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,880
grabs the receiving stuff too. 
And it's, it's like I, I don't 

630
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,800
think that's as as strong an 
upside case as as you're making 

631
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,360
for Tootin, but I, I do think, 
think that's pretty interesting.

632
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,840
Yeah, I mean Judkin still he 
gets, you know, 3 targets, 3 

633
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,680
receptions on. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

634
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:06,160
The here's a couple caveats of 
Judkins and you know, before I 

635
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,040
pour any cold water on this, I'm
mega Judkins bowl like we're 

636
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,280
we're very aligned. 
I just want to, you know, 

637
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,960
provide additional color to 
this. 

638
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:20,680
So Judkins didn't have a ton of 
running room early when he was 

639
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,400
getting work. 
He he wasn't racking up a ton of

640
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,400
yards. 
His long on the day of 31 yards 

641
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,720
came in the fourth quarter after
the game was like, I think it's 

642
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,280
4110 at that point. 
So it's pretty over. 

643
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,920
You know, Dylan Gabriel's in the
game like it it was well and 

644
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,640
truly done. 
So maybe there's like a little 

645
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,960
bit of lack of effort on the 
Ravens side from tackling or 

646
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,720
maybe some backups were in 
there, but. 

647
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,240
Let me push back a little bit on
that. 

648
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:55,120
So on the next Gen. set, so 50% 
of his runs were above expected,

649
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,200
which I guess 50% doesn't 
doesn't sound like that much, 

650
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,560
but that's one of that's one of 
the, the highest. 

651
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,880
Like let me so the highest is so
far is like 58%. 

652
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,880
So him being at Tooting is at 54
1/2%. 

653
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,280
So him being at 50% like it's 
kind of suggestive that it did 

654
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,720
not come from one run. 
He he had like a good day. 

655
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,320
He also the charting seems wrong
to me on his missed tackles 

656
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,680
force because I watched enough 
of this game. 

657
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,920
Do they have are they charting 
broken tackles differently than 

658
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,720
missed tackles forced? 
No, they're. 

659
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,560
I don't think so. 
Yeah, the charting, the 

660
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,000
charting's wrong here because he
broke like 3 tackles on that 

661
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,920
long run. 
So but they, they have him down 

662
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,880
for two missed tackles forced. 
He had more than that so that's 

663
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,160
interesting. 
I'm kind of surprised that would

664
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,160
be wrong cuz like on one play. 
It's objective. 

665
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,840
It should be objective. 
Yeah, on one play you can count 

666
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,640
more of a sacks force. 
So seems a little funny, but 

667
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,560
whatever. 
Anyway, I do we're we're kind of

668
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,640
in lock step on Judkins. 
I think it's wheels up also. 

669
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,440
I mean. 
At at cost. 

670
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,160
At cost. 
Yeah. 

671
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,000
I mean, I think you can probably
get him relatively cheap in most

672
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,680
places where you could like 
trade for him. 

673
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,360
Like in a in a home league, 
think you're going to be able to

674
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,400
get him pretty cheap. 
Still. 

675
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,520
It's not as aggressive as I 
would be pursuing Tooten in a 

676
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,360
home league. 
Like Tooten just, you know, go 

677
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,680
nuts. 
Like if you if you have a 

678
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,240
veteran running back, like if 
you have enough running back 

679
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:36,000
depth that you're not hurting if
you trade away someone good, 

680
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,400
like you still have someone to 
play like trade away someone 

681
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,320
that's scoring right now that 
looks good. 

682
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,560
Like straight away Tony Pollard 
who's getting 20 carries a game 

683
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,440
for Mitchell, like so many of 
your normie opponents would just

684
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,200
snap, except that like Tony 
Pollard for Mitchell Tooten. 

685
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,240
Like, so, you know, not that you
have to go trade something like 

686
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:01,120
that to get it done, but just to
give a A-frame of reference for 

687
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:06,320
like what I'm willing to go go 
out and do, you know, definitely

688
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,080
would be willing to trade guys 
that I are scoring good points 

689
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,240
right now for the upside that is
facial too. 

690
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:20,920
Yeah, agree, agree. 
And and then the other, the 

691
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,600
other thing that's kind of like 
a split backfield that I wanted 

692
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:31,120
to talk about is, is the Seattle
stuff where you, you asked me 

693
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,320
last week how I felt about it. 
And I didn't want to say I I 

694
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,360
didn't, I actually honestly got,
I didn't have an answer just 

695
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,120
because I was like, I think 
Kenneth Walker's way better, but

696
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:48,000
they played Charbonnay way more 
at this point. 

697
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,680
I think, I think I've seen 
enough where this is the third 

698
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,400
season in a row or say the last 
two years, they've gone into the

699
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,760
season wanting to use 
Charbonnay. 

700
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,640
And then as the season goes on, 
when Walker's healthy, they're 

701
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,520
like, no, what it's it's Walker 
like he's better than you. 

702
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:13,640
And and I think the the last 
game where like he only had what

703
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,680
he had let me let me get the 
number. 

704
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Who's? 
Sharpening Kenneth Walker was 

705
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:24,640
only on on the field for like 
36% of snaps, but he was so good

706
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,200
that like he had like 100 yards 
and and the the next Gen. stats 

707
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,440
stuff on on Charbonnet like was 
that he just stunk out loud. 

708
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,680
Yeah, it was. 
It was bad. 

709
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:41,720
It was not good, 15 carries for 
10 yards. 15 carries for 10 

710
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:45,560
yards and like some of the stuff
on on this next Gen. stat stuff 

711
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,000
is that like he's supposed to be
like a success rate guy where 

712
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,680
like he's not the most 
explosive, but you know what he 

713
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,520
doesn't he doesn't screw around.
He gets the yards that are he'll

714
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,520
get the yards that are blocked. 
He's not going to set you back, 

715
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,680
whereas he's got like a 23 
percent or run rate over run 

716
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,520
over expected percentage. 
He's on the metric that kind of 

717
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,840
measures like how much he's 
dilly Dalian around the line of 

718
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,120
scrimmage. 
He's one of the highest of any 

719
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,200
running back. 
So basically he's he's dilly 

720
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,560
Dalian. 
He's Dilly Dalian more than any 

721
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,800
running back in the NFL. 
And and that's supposed to be 

722
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,680
the thing that people said 
Kenneth Walker was bad for. 

723
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,160
So I, I, I, I think to me it's 
pretty clear that he's, he's 

724
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,360
kind of played himself out of 
out of a job. 

725
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,480
He's lost a job for the third 
year in a row. 

726
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:45,000
And and I it's kind of like it's
not, it's certainly not what you

727
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,360
paid for. 
This is what called divorce 

728
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,160
check. 
You weren't paying for Kenneth 

729
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Walker to happen to outplay 
Charbonnay to Aaron's job back. 

730
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,720
But it it does seem clear to me 
that that's what's happened. 

731
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,600
Yeah, that's a good call. 
Another guy I wanted to talk 

732
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,280
about who's kind of in the this 
is what would happen if Zach 

733
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,640
Charbonnay was really good 
archetype is Cam Scataboo, who 

734
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,280
is just taking the lunch of 
Tyrone Tracy. 

735
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,680
I mean, if you watch the Giants 
Cowboys game, it really Brian 

736
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,360
Dayball's in love with Cam 
Scataboo. 

737
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,200
Like they you know, he's gonna 
be sending him a Valentine's Day

738
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,440
card. 
Like he, he's definitely he's. 

739
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,600
Gonna be camps buying the 
Arizona State turf. 

740
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,600
Oh, he's what do you mean he's 
gonna be buying? 

741
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,920
It's already installed, baby. 
His whole backyard is scat turf.

742
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,880
But but yeah, like you can just 
tell the way he's deploying him.

743
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,960
Also, this is like a a zoom out 
on the chart and like the longer

744
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,880
view stuff, not just 
scataboost's profile where hey, 

745
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,240
this guy really profiles like he
could be a three down back. 

746
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:54,680
He's a strong tackle breaker. 
The strongest part of his 

747
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,600
profile was in the receiving 
game, right? 

748
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,960
So I mean, that's that's like 
the big barrier to a lot of guys

749
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,640
like him where they're these 
like between the tackles 

750
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,000
grinders, like, you know, not 
super explosive. 

751
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600
It's like, oh, well, you know, 
if this guy could catch, maybe 

752
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,280
we can keep him on the field for
three downs like scataboo. 

753
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,440
Like his best part of his game 
is that he he's great. 

754
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,120
He's an asset in the receiving 
game and so I feel like Tracy 

755
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,680
has almost no Moat to this guy. 
The only thing that Tracy has 

756
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,480
over him is Tracy's probably 
like a little bit more explosive

757
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,280
or I guess a lot of it more 
explosive than Scataboo. 

758
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,960
But Scataboo seems like he's 
he's kind of an identity back, 

759
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,920
like he's going to take over the
offense. 

760
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,360
The split was close to 5050 this
last game. 

761
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,640
I'd expect it to go more and 
more in Scataboo's direction, 

762
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,480
where Tracy is coming in as kind
of the change of pace guy, like 

763
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,640
the the lightning to Scataboo's 
Thunder. 

764
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,280
But the nice thing about? 
50% snap rate in in Week 2 is 

765
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,520
like nuts. 
Well, and, and then here's the 

766
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,640
other thing that I I got off 
topic on for myself. 

767
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Think back to camp when they 
were talking about how much they

768
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,920
liked Scataboo. 
And then he gets set back with 

769
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,040
the hammy, right? 
And he misses multiple weeks of 

770
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:14,120
training camp, right? 
And then when he gets back, they

771
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,040
basically immediately try to 
work him back in. 

772
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,760
It's not like, oh, we're going 
to really take it slow with you.

773
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,280
It's as soon as Scataboo's 
available, the Giants made it a 

774
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,280
priority to make sure that he 
was getting involved. 

775
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000
Like to me the. 
Right after, after he missed the

776
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,440
time, they were like, no, it's 
going to be important for this 

777
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,160
guy to get familiarity. 
Let's make sure we get that for 

778
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,080
him now. 
Yeah, yeah. 

779
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,600
And and so the signal was really
strong that like he was a part 

780
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,760
of the plan out of the gate. 
It wasn't like a, we'll see what

781
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,160
this guy has, we'll see what he 
can contribute. 

782
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,680
Like plan A was Cam Scataboo 
takes over the backfield and 

783
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,160
that little hamstring tweak is 
the only thing that is standing 

784
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,440
between Cam Scataboo and you 
know, 70% of the snaps already. 

785
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,120
So I think we see that trend up.
He's a really fun one. 

786
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:10,200
The the downside stuff with 
scataboo is I'm worried about 

787
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,560
this giants offense. 
I know they just had a a game 

788
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,880
where they put up a ton of 
points against the shitty 

789
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,560
Cowboys defense. 
But Russ Wilson is not going to,

790
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,160
you know, look, look as good as 
he did. 

791
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,640
And by the way, like not to I'm,
I'm sure that people will be 

792
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,360
like, what are you talking about
when I say this? 

793
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,680
But if you actually watch the 
game, like the first half of 

794
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,360
that Cowboys giants game, rust 
looked outright bad. 

795
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,320
There were just a couple of the 
moon. 

796
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,160
Russ did the rust thing again 
where it's like, well, I'm going

797
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,120
to look really bad for a lot of 
this, but I'm going to connect 

798
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,920
on some moon balls and that's 
just everything else won't 

799
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,120
really matter then. 
And that's basically what 

800
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,160
happened. 
And so it looks so much better 

801
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,440
in the box score than it was to 
actually watch. 

802
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,440
Like, I dare you to go back and 
watch it. 

803
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,480
I like, I, I double dog dare you
to sit through those throws. 

804
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,360
The moon balls are cool. 
Like they're sick big plays, but

805
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,040
there's a lot of bad throws out 
there. 

806
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Like to the extent where they 
were getting Jackson Dart in the

807
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,720
game, like they were swapping 
Russ out for Dart, like they had

808
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:13,960
packages for Dart. 
They're already trying to see if

809
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,600
they can get Dart on the field, 
right? 

810
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,840
So that's my concern. 
The only thing about Russ is 

811
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,440
with the moon balls and and they
keep. 

812
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,280
It's like he can't keep getting 
away with this. 

813
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,040
And he does. 
He does in. 

814
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,080
Fact. 
He kind of does. 

815
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,200
He kind of does. 
I I think he's probably like, 

816
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,320
it's like a worsen league 
average starter. 

817
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,880
And he's definitely, he's 
definitely a worsen league 

818
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,160
average starter, but. 
I'm probably terrible at the 

819
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,440
other stuff, but then the moon 
balls are so good. 

820
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,560
He's still like that. 
That's like the last thing in 

821
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,160
his arsenal that just like stays
there. 

822
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:52,200
It probably it probably means 
that we get more games like 

823
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,400
this. 
But if defenses just decide to 

824
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,400
take that away, those games, 
he'll just stink. 

825
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,360
Yeah, So my, my concern with the
Scataboo upside is, you know, 

826
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,440
what, if the offense is much 
worse than what we saw this last

827
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,760
week, like you have poor 
touchdown equity, you know, they

828
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,800
can't sustain drives, things 
like that. 

829
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,880
But I, I feel good about 
Scataboo's high value touches in

830
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,200
the offense. 
Like you should get a lot of 

831
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,160
receiving. 
He's very clear with the goal 

832
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,560
line back. 
So he's exciting. 

833
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,880
How how would you compare him 
and Judkins going forward? 

834
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,400
Because I think they have 
similar warts that they're that 

835
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,080
are offensive like environment 
related warts. 

836
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,840
But what are your thoughts on on
that one comparison? 

837
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:39,680
So the for Scataboo his, his 
competition being Tyrone Tracy 

838
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,240
is helpful in that even though 
the team likes Tyrone Tracy. 

839
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,400
I, I, I, I don't, I don't think 
he has quite the same talent. 

840
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,800
A Tyrone Tayshree has quite the 
same talent as Samson and or, or

841
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,960
upside. 
And I think he's, he's got the 

842
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,920
explosiveness. 
He the, the the chain trusts him

843
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,280
with pass blocking. 
So that does represent some kind

844
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:10,000
of an obstacle to, to scataboo. 
But I, I, I, I agree with you 

845
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,520
that like, it's just, it's so 
compelling that they're 

846
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,440
splitting a 5050 already. 
Like it's an, even if, if 

847
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,040
they're even he's leaving a 
scenario. 

848
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:25,000
So I, I probably feel a a bit 
better about Scataboo's kind of 

849
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:34,880
ability to consolidate the 
opportunity and the, the, I, I 

850
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,720
don't know, I, I think I, I'm 
biased on the Browns. 

851
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,240
I think the offensive 
environment stuff is kind of 

852
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:44,960
awash. 
And then for the Browns, it's 

853
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:50,760
like so they they have a, 
they're going to have a really 

854
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,840
high attempt rate every week, 
but it's Joe Flacco or Dylan 

855
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,640
Gabriel. 
So the efficiency is not going 

856
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,760
to be great. 
But on the other hand, if you're

857
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,880
comparing the Longview stuff 
between Judkins and Scataboo, 

858
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:10,160
it's it's not it's I don't think
it's that close where Judkins 

859
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,320
obviously get the strong, strong
draft capital ahead of him. 

860
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:19,640
Like he dominated the freshman 
in the SEC, then he became a 

861
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,960
focal point on most island, the 
roster, blah, blah, blah. 

862
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,800
I think if you're kind of 
comparing talent level, you give

863
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,360
that to Judkins. 
I think you pretty handily give 

864
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:34,160
that to Judkins. 
But then I do think Samson, the 

865
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,960
mixture of Samson and Ford that 
that that's enough of the check 

866
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,160
that even with that stronger 
talent, he's still it's not 

867
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,360
still kind of obstacle 
consolidating. 

868
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,360
I, I, I think they're, they're 
pretty close. 

869
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,720
I I probably at this point, I 
probably am, if not for the 

870
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:57,080
suspension, I'd lean Judkins. 
But then when you mix in the 

871
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,760
suspension, like taking that 
risk off the table for a for 

872
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,000
what's his name, scataboo like 
that, that pushes him ahead is 

873
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,960
what I'd say. 
I I think suspension risk is 

874
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,800
pretty close to it's not 0, but 
it's pretty close to 0. 

875
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,280
For Oh, you think? 
So I read, yeah, NFL is just 

876
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,080
trying. 
It's it's a let it die quietly 

877
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,240
kind of thing. 
So you don't you don't come out 

878
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,480
and outright say, you know, in 
his first game, like, and by the

879
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,640
way, we won't be suspending him.
It's a, they recognize that the 

880
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,320
correct thing to do is not 
suspend the guy who, you know, 

881
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,600
his ex-girlfriend tried to frame
him for domestic violence like 

882
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,480
he was innocent, you know, and 
so it's it's a not, it's a, hey,

883
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,600
let's not suspend this guy kind 
of situation. 

884
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,920
It's also a situation where 
anything that's even 

885
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,320
tangentially related to domestic
violence is, is something that 

886
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,920
the NFL wants to handle with 
extreme caution just from APR 

887
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,800
standpoint. 
And so this is a let it, let it 

888
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,440
die quietly type of situation. 
I, I, I could see that being the

889
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,640
case. 
I, I still, I still think that 

890
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,880
it's not AI, don't I, I don't 
think it's off the table and I 

891
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,440
think it's still like a risk 
that's out there that we don't 

892
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,000
understand that well, we don't 
have that much access to the in 

893
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:20,120
NFL's inner workings. 
But I, I, I, I'm OK, It's a 

894
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,240
stock chasing thing. 
I, I think I'm I'm OK for for us

895
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,480
to move on and and disagree. 
Yeah, I want to hit. 

896
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,640
There's a couple guys on the 
backup chart. 

897
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,520
I basically want to give one 
sentence blurbs on and then I 

898
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,160
want to go to the starters 
charts. 

899
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,480
There's a couple guys. 
Yeah, yeah. 

900
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,920
It's wild that we've been on 
this so long we haven't hit the 

901
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,480
starters. 
But I think there were important

902
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,360
guys that were that didn't even 
quite make the backups chart 

903
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,400
that we needed to talk about. 
So I think that was good. 

904
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,000
Quick one sentence. 
I'm going to say my thing and 

905
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,880
then if you have anything to 
add, go ahead. 

906
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,680
If not, I'll go to the next guy,
Trey Benson, like legitimate. 

907
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,320
He's he's in the like Tyler 
Algier category. 

908
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,960
He's a Tyler Algier plus level 
backup now where he's got that 

909
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:03,240
right contingent value and he's 
actually getting work and and 

910
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,880
seeing points. 
He's he's in like the Dylan 

911
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,400
Sampson category for me to 
anything that. 

912
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,360
He's good, that's the thing. 
He's good. 

913
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,360
He's good. 
The team likes him and he's got 

914
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,080
he's got the backup stuff and 
and the fact that he's already 

915
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:22,240
playing or he is playing, that's
like the best sign of contingent

916
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:25,440
upside where he's playing even 
with James Conner out there. 

917
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,720
So if James Conner gets hurt, 
it's it or, or something 

918
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:31,040
happened to him, it would be 
wheels up for Petra Benson. 

919
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,000
Yeah, getting getting a lot of 
passing game work as well. 

920
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,680
If you look at his his snap 
breakdown here, a lot of routes,

921
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,400
right, other guy Kyle Manungai, 
the Kyle Manungai Roshan Johnson

922
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,640
wars have been decided. 
Kyle Manungai is the victor 

923
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,000
Roshan Johnson fully active this
last week only played special 

924
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,200
teams. 
It is Jover with a capital J for

925
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,040
Rochon Johnson bad news. 
It's also Jover with a capital J

926
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,040
for common guy because he 
stinks. 

927
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,760
Now there's an out because 
DeAndre Swift also stinks. 

928
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,760
But swift is going to be like 
the lead back here. 

929
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,800
He he's their best back 
operating in space and in the 

930
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,720
passing game. 
But man, they just this, this is

931
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:22,000
a team that please please trade 
for Travis ETN Bears. 

932
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,960
Please trade for Travis ETN 
fully fully unleashed shooting 

933
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,160
for the Jags because you need 
help desperately here. 

934
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,760
Anything to add on the non guy? 
Though, no, I but I have a 

935
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,320
further thing to add on Trey 
Benson. 

936
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,680
So Trey Benson actually ran more
routes down at James Conner last

937
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,240
week, had some more pass 
blocking snaps. 

938
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:46,440
No, it was, it was 16 routes to 
12 and two pass blocks to 1. 

939
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,200
But still to me, that's super 
interesting. 

940
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,080
Yeah. 
And and you got 5 targets versus

941
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,120
1. 
So, and it's only one game, but 

942
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:01,120
he was he was their their main 
pass catching back in that game,

943
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,360
which I'm glad you made that 
note that that is interesting. 

944
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:07,360
Yeah, that that is important. 
Spells trouble for James Conner 

945
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,240
for sure. 
The other guy, we don't really 

946
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:12,800
have to talk about this guy, but
Aaron Jones on IR. 

947
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:19,400
So let's go to the starters 
chart and we can talk about 

948
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,280
Jordan Mason, who I would expect
him to absorb an enormous amount

949
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,040
of the work. 
I I think that we'll just 

950
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,720
probably see the Vikings go with
Jordan Mason and then they're 

951
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:34,360
going to have someone else come 
in, you know, be it a Cam makers

952
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,960
or be it a you know who whoever 
else takes over for them. 

953
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,560
It we're going to learn a name, 
most likely, you know. 

954
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:46,920
It's got makers TM Makers is the
is the backup or he's the guy 

955
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,640
that they elevated part and they
brought their practice squad. 

956
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,760
Yeah, it's just like, how long 
does that last, you know? 

957
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,360
Yeah, no, true, true. 
And I think what's also 

958
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:02,520
interesting about Mason is that 
even before Aaron, he was 

959
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,360
already running routes. 
They're already trusting him to 

960
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,520
pass luck. 
So the, the beat on him going 

961
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,240
into the year was that he was 
just going to be a rushing only 

962
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,920
guy and, and Aaron Jones was 
going to be the primary 

963
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,840
receiver. 
And, and, and that's not 

964
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,200
necessarily so that it, that was
pretty true, but they were still

965
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,960
trusting the guy with passing 
down work. 

966
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:29,040
So it it I, I think I agree with
you in, in, in that like, Hey, 

967
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,520
they're going to trust this guy 
with a lot. 

968
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,760
Like it's they're not going to 
limit him to rushing stuff. 

969
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,560
He's going to be running rats. 
He's going to be catching passes

970
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,480
too. 
Like this is the next four games

971
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,040
are going to be pretty, pretty 
good for Jordan Mason. 

972
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,840
Yeah, I definitely agree there. 
I just want to like kind of 

973
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,240
quickly hit on some guys with 
thoughts that I had from the 

974
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:57,080
games this weekend. 
Nick Chubb looked atrocious. 

975
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,960
Basically, Nick Chubb needs good
blocking to look somewhat 

976
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,000
decent. 
He looked decent enough in Week 

977
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,360
1, looked really bad in week 
two. 

978
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,680
He saves his fantasy day with a 
long touchdown run, but that was

979
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,720
the Bucks letting him score so 
the Bucks could get the ball 

980
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,280
back. 
Otherwise the Texans run the 

981
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,040
clock out and win the game there
without the Bucks ever getting a

982
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,200
possession. 
Nick Chubb runs the ball in for 

983
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,320
the touchdown, gives the ball 
back to the Bucks. 

984
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,200
Texans lose the game because of 
it and Chubb, you know, gets 

985
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,040
rewarded with nine extra fantasy
points, give or take, you know, 

986
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,000
whatever it was like a 25 yard 
or 30 yard run or something like

987
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,960
that. 
But yeah, Nick Chubb should have

988
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,240
had basically stoned nothing. 
He had one really nice screen 

989
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,600
pass early that he took for a 
little bit of a chunk, but other

990
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,360
than that and that was well 
blocked. 

991
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,400
So that's basically Nick Chubb 
can get what's blocked, but he 

992
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,320
has like basically 0 juice. 
He's he's toast. 

993
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,360
If at any point Nixon is 
healthy, Nick Chubb turns into 

994
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,960
exactly 0. 
And then also if at any point 

995
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,840
the Texans get fed up and 
they're like, God, we need 

996
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,960
something else. 
Like there, there are guys on 

997
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,880
the street right now that would 
do better, which I hate to say 

998
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,360
about Nick Chubb. 
I really would love to root for 

999
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,520
Nick Chubb. 
And like, I think Nick Chubb, 

1000
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,520
the human is awesome. 
Nick Chubb, the fantasy football

1001
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,960
asset is not super awesome 
anymore. 

1002
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,440
He's just the poor guy's been 
through way too much, you know, 

1003
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,520
3 catastrophic knee injuries and
and then a broken foot. 

1004
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,880
We'll do that to a person. 
Yeah, I, I'd love to disagree 

1005
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:42,680
with you, but there's nothing 
here in the in the data that I 

1006
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,040
think the data kind of backs you
up where he had, he had five 

1007
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,280
missed tackles in week 10 last 
night. 

1008
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,760
And like you're saying, he he 
had the the breakaway touchdown 

1009
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,080
where it does seem like they 
they probably did let him score.

1010
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,040
It was, it was the Make a Wish 
touchdown. 

1011
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,560
You and I both would have also 
scored the touchdown, you know, 

1012
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,680
if they wanted more than 
nothing. 

1013
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,920
There was nothing there when I 
saw. 

1014
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,600
It live I was like, wow, the 
safety rear, you had the angle 

1015
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,360
there and he wasn't. 
I don't. 

1016
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,800
Yeah, no. 
Exactly the crowd they could 

1017
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,560
have caught. 
Him, man. 

1018
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,760
OK, you wanna? 
This is gonna be like the 

1019
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,760
stupidest chalk of all time, but
it's gonna work. 

1020
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,680
You ready for the like lock 
button? 

1021
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,720
Make sure this guy's in 100% of 
your line UPS. 

1022
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,560
If you're playing Showdown come 
Thursday, just lock James Cook. 

1023
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,720
They're going, you know, Bills 
play the Dolphins. 

1024
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,160
The Dolphins are absolute dog 
shit, like just terrible. 

1025
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,480
I mean, Ramondre Stevenson, you 
know, just put up a really good 

1026
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,200
game against the Dolphins. 
You know, Jonathan Taylor smoked

1027
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:53,120
him in Week 1 and the Bills just
showed us what the plan is when 

1028
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,480
they get out to a crazy lead 
like they were beating the 

1029
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,120
brakes off The Jets and what was
the plan? 

1030
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,680
It was Hey James, do you do you 
want to just like rack up a 

1031
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,800
bunch of really cool stats dude,
like they're they're happy to 

1032
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,800
let him do it. 
So James Cook ultra super mega 

1033
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,520
lock for the Thursday night 
showdown game here. 

1034
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,960
You know, there will be games 
where it doesn't have to flow 

1035
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,440
through him, but the the game 
sets up to be like that. 

1036
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,440
And I it would not surprise me 
at all if the Bills just decide 

1037
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,840
to lean on him in a, you know, a
positive game script for them. 

1038
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:35,440
Yeah, no, when no argument here.
The other note I had was like, 

1039
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:40,560
and I think this is kind of like
widely seen, but a Chan actually

1040
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:45,120
leading running backs in 
combined rush attempts and 

1041
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,880
routes. 
It's kind of kind of surprising,

1042
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,360
but then he's also getting 
heavily targeted, like heavily 

1043
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,640
heavily targeted. 
I think he has like 3 yards per 

1044
01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:01,120
out run as well and for like 
20-5 something like 2530% 

1045
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,600
targets per out run and on the 
year. 

1046
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:10,480
And so like it honestly insane 
usage for a Chan, like mostly as

1047
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,840
a receiver where he's kind of 
the only thing that works in in 

1048
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,280
their offense right now, kind 
of. 

1049
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:23,720
I I believe in week two, he had 
greater yards after catch then 

1050
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,280
he did total receiving yards 
because everything came behind 

1051
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,200
the line of scrimmage for him. 
If you watch them play, it's 

1052
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,280
it's the same thing that we've 
seen in the past for him. 

1053
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,120
It's just the extension of the 
run game. 

1054
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:41,280
They're the Dolphins want to be 
able to run the ball from 

1055
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,560
outside the hashes basically, 
and that's what he's doing in a 

1056
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,080
lot of this. 
It's just these little like 

1057
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,000
swing passes, these dump offs or
screens where he's getting the 

1058
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,200
ball behind the line of 
scrimmage. 

1059
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,120
It's basically just like 
conceptually think of the play 

1060
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,520
where the Dolphins are allowed 
to line their center up over 

1061
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,160
outside the hashes and but the 
defense is not allowed. 

1062
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,880
They have to pretend like they 
don't see it and then it's just 

1063
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,880
direct snap to a Chan. 
That's that's basically what 

1064
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,880
they're doing functionally. 
It's like, yeah, this guy's just

1065
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,640
going to get the ball and be 
over here on the outside with 

1066
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,320
fewer guys to have to beat. 
So the the benefit to that is 

1067
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,040
like this is all running game 
basically. 

1068
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,880
But he's also just getting a 
point for the reception too, so.

1069
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,920
So I I was I was wrong. 
It's 25% target Sprint run, 2 

1070
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,800
yard, 8 yards per out run. 
Still still insane. 

1071
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,600
Still insane and but very 
strong. 

1072
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,960
The the other guys at the top, 
like I think all of these, I 

1073
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,840
just want to like kind of go 
through these really quick. 

1074
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,200
So a Chan super strong, like 
start every week kind of smash 

1075
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,520
should be very valuable in DFS. 
Every week I'm skipping Kamara 

1076
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,800
and Pollard. 
I'm going to come back to that 

1077
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,520
promise. 
CMC, Jonathan Taylor, Bucky, 

1078
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,440
Josh Jacobs, Bijan. 
That's like that top tier for me

1079
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,440
of like you start these guys 
every week. 

1080
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,720
They're going to be smashes like
pretty much every week. 

1081
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,440
Don't don't really worry about 
it. 

1082
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:09,560
They all either are ultra 
efficient or get such insane. 

1083
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,240
I mean they all get incredible 
usage, but they're all just 

1084
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:18,880
going to be very, very strong. 
Josh Jacobs like less efficient 

1085
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,880
than these other guys and not as
involved in the passing game is 

1086
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,720
like any of those other guys I 
mentioned in the same breath 

1087
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:29,000
like Bijan Bucky, JT and Jacobs 
are like similarly involved in 

1088
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,960
the passing game, but JT is just
efficient in a way that Josh 

1089
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,440
Jacobs is not. 
But Josh Jacobs happens to play 

1090
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,200
on an offense. 
It's just going to score a shit 

1091
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,640
ton of touchdowns. 
And so he's he's marked safe 

1092
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,760
from the from the trap back 
profile where it's like, Hey, it

1093
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,840
actually doesn't matter because 
it's a really good offense going

1094
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,400
to Kamara and Pollard, though, I
think these are the ones where 

1095
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,400
like you as a fantasy player can
add the most value here because 

1096
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,160
the roles are insane. 
The problem is both these teams 

1097
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,640
suck ass. 
So where these guys can become 

1098
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,560
ultra valuable is if they find 
themselves in a game where their

1099
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,400
team is not only in it, but they
also happen to be playing a 

1100
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,000
defense that like you don't want
them to be in it because it's a 

1101
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,720
low scoring game. 
That's it's not going to work 

1102
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,160
out well for these backs in that
type of environment. 

1103
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,720
It's got to be that they are in 
it and that the opposing team is

1104
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:27,120
going to score points on offense
but not do very much on defense.

1105
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:32,040
And so early kind of like teams 
that fit that archetype so far, 

1106
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,080
like you're looking for when 
they play teams like the Cowboys

1107
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,520
or the Bengals or the Dolphins, 
like those are the teams that 

1108
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,720
kind of fit that mold. 
Or it's like these guys suck on 

1109
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,640
defense. 
They're competent enough on 

1110
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,200
offense. 
So that's what you're looking 

1111
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,960
for with Alan Kamara, Tony 
Pollard, basically in other 

1112
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,000
matchups, like if they're 
playing a a stronger defense or 

1113
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,520
a team that's like doesn't have 
as high-powered of an offense. 

1114
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,320
So they might just, you know, 
play a boring, low scoring game.

1115
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,000
I think these guys are really 
easy fades from a volume 

1116
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,560
standpoint. 
They'll they'll project really 

1117
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,520
well most weeks because of the 
role. 

1118
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,840
And it's just like, if they beat
me, they beat me kind of thing, 

1119
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,920
like whatever. 
Like it's just like it's a 

1120
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,160
volume play. 
The efficiency is probably not 

1121
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,320
going to be there, but you can 
really lean into it in those 

1122
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,720
matchups where they're they're 
set up to smash. 

1123
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,200
So anyway, that was the the 
thoughts I had on those top 

1124
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,800
guys. 
Yeah, yeah, makes makes sense 

1125
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:37,800
make I'm sorry. 
Yeah, I was just looking at the 

1126
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,520
schedules. 
I don't see anything coming up 

1127
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,160
for the Saints on that. 
They do have the Dolphins on 

1128
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:52,640
their schedule, not sure what 
week like November 30th, so 

1129
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,720
towards the end of the year, but
I don't think there's anything 

1130
01:06:55,720 --> 01:07:01,120
too current. 
But that's let's move on to to 

1131
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:08,880
the tight ends, I guess. 
We're not we're not surprised 

1132
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,480
that the the usage is so 
fantastic for for Trey McBride. 

1133
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,840
I, I, I wish the points were a 
little bit better. 

1134
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,000
I do think those days are 
coming. 

1135
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:23,640
But you, you. 
But to me it's it's still like 

1136
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,880
we've got further confirmation 
that Juan Johnson is there like 

1137
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,320
is is the Saints ride or die 
like where he's just playing an 

1138
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,240
insane amount of snaps like he's
their guy. 

1139
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,120
He's getting heavily targeted 
like 7.2 A dot is pretty solid 

1140
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:44,360
for tight ends and true the 
first two weeks like he like 

1141
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,560
Jawan Johnson league winner. 
Yeah, Jawan Johnson's a tight 

1142
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,240
end in name only. 
He's a receiver. 

1143
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,240
He's the he's the wide receiver,
too. 

1144
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,640
Effectively on the Saints, it's 
Chris Olave and then Jawan 

1145
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:59,720
Johnson, then Rashid Sheed. 
But yeah, I, I capitulated on 

1146
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,600
Jawan Johnson last week and I 
was, I was bummed I didn't draft

1147
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,040
as much of him this year because
he was one of my highest owned 

1148
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,280
tight ends last year. 
And I, I was like, all right, if

1149
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,800
it wasn't going to work last 
year, it's it's over this year. 

1150
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,680
And that was just super duper 
wrong. 

1151
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:18,080
So this is again, I have in the 
notes Omega Juwan Johnson 

1152
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,520
capitulation, self flagellation 
segment. 

1153
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,080
So that's what this is, but we 
can move on. 

1154
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,560
He's a great, you know, rest of 
the season you're super happy to

1155
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,880
have him on your basketball 
teams. 

1156
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,840
If you need a tight end, he's on
waivers. 

1157
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,960
He's a smash pick up. 
He's really, really strong 

1158
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,439
going. 
Forward, yeah, yeah. 

1159
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,120
And and he's he's available on 
the surprising amount of waivers

1160
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,279
as well. 
And so definitely get him. 

1161
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,800
Here, here's a here's a question
for you. 

1162
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,080
Let's say hypothetically, I've 
got Harold Fannin on a team and 

1163
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,319
Jawan Johnson's also out there 
on waivers. 

1164
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,680
Now, I think that, you know, 
holding both those guys feels a 

1165
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,240
little weird to me, like I 
probably could get more upside 

1166
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,520
from a skill position player 
from that roster spot. 

1167
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,160
So are you cutting Harold Fannon
to pick up Jalon Johnson? 

1168
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:13,319
And it depends right, where it 
depends on who your other tight 

1169
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:16,960
ends are. 
Like if, if, if you're talking 

1170
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,040
most of my teams, I would have 
drafted like Trey McBride or 

1171
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:26,439
Bowers or so many like that. 
And on those teams, and it's 

1172
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:33,880
very clearly you want famine. 
And on teams where I didn't get 

1173
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:39,760
an elite tight ends and I'm 
probably those are teams. 

1174
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,000
It depends on how short the 
bench is, I suppose. 

1175
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:45,120
Those are teams where you 
probably can rust your boat 

1176
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:48,439
because you're using a small a 
small enough draft capital on 

1177
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:54,040
tight end in total. 
And but if if, if you want tight

1178
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,080
end points straight away, it's 
you on Johnson all day. 

1179
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,480
Like Harold Fanning is is a nice
early season play. 

1180
01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:06,760
He's not bad, but the strength 
of of his kind of rest of season

1181
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:13,360
rank comes from there's like 
some percentage chance. 

1182
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:16,080
We can debate how big that is, 
but there is some percentage 

1183
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:21,960
chance that by the end of the 
year he's got the Harold Finance

1184
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:27,440
talent combined with the Juan 
Johnson at usage and and in 

1185
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:31,440
those games, he's just 
absolutely crushing Juan Johnson

1186
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,440
in my opinion. 
Yeah, that's a good, good point.

1187
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:38,040
I guess let me frame it in a 
slightly different way. 

1188
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,200
That's that's going to be even 
more actionable for many of the 

1189
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:47,360
slappies listening at home. 
Let's say that I'm fine holding 

1190
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,440
2 tight ends on my roster. 
I want Jawan Johnson right now 

1191
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:54,040
to help me win a couple games. 
I don't want to drop Harold 

1192
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,840
Fanning because I want the 
upside, but I've got some skill 

1193
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,440
position players I could cut. 
So these are guys that I'd be 

1194
01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:03,160
cutting to add Jawan Johnson to 
my team because I already have 

1195
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:04,960
Harold Fanning. 
Of course, because I'm a slappy.

1196
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,320
You just hit me with a yes or no
Luther burden. 

1197
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,360
Yes or no, you're dropping in 
for Jawan Johnson. 

1198
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:15,120
Yeah, Joanne dropping. 
Oh man. 

1199
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,640
And probably honestly, probably 
not. 

1200
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,040
Probably not the points you get 
from Joanne Johnson over the 

1201
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,040
long term, they're probably not 
over fan and probably not enough

1202
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,800
to give up that upside in my 
opinion. 

1203
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:38,240
OK, OK, A couple guys that we 
can talk about quickly. 

1204
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,800
I wanna get some quick ones out 
of the way. 

1205
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,000
Travis Kelsey, super duper 
toast. 

1206
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,400
Don't start him at a home 
league. 

1207
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:45,680
He's. 
We said it last week. 

1208
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,160
We called him Jover last week. 
Mark Andrews was the guy where 

1209
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:50,640
I'm like, let's see another 
week. 

1210
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,120
It's absolutely jover. 
Like it's also Jover for him. 

1211
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,120
Yeah, the the old guard is done.
The future is now. 

1212
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,960
Old man Mark, Mark Andrews, 
Travis Kelsey, you're out of 

1213
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:02,960
here. 
Kind of unceremonious end to. 

1214
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,400
Yeah, yeah. 
It's kind of sad that those guys

1215
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,200
kind of headlines Elite tied in 
for so long and and yeah, 

1216
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,120
honestly, I wish Travis Kelsey 
were tired. 

1217
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,560
I know he could have gone out on
top, man. 

1218
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,400
Yeah, last year it would have 
been such a great. 

1219
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,640
I mean, other than losing the 
Super Bowl, you know, but, 

1220
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,720
right, Right. 
OK, two rookies that I think are

1221
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:28,800
are quick hitters, Mason Taylor,
empty routes, worthless loser. 

1222
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,400
Correct. 
He's not a He's not. 

1223
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:36,040
A yeah, yeah, not, not when you 
have Garrett Wilson like 

1224
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:40,960
absolutely consolidating targets
as he should and then not that 

1225
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,680
many drop backs for for fields, 
but when they don't. 

1226
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:49,560
But when when you do drop back, 
he's he's rushing for a bunch of

1227
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,120
them or he's trolling it to 
Garrett Wilson. 

1228
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:57,440
Like not not a not a worthwhile 
and fantasy asset, 

1229
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:01,480
unfortunately. 
Another another one that is not 

1230
01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:05,120
a worthwhile fantasy asset, 
unfortunately, is Colson 

1231
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,240
Loveland. 
We're going to have the early 

1232
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,600
season funeral for him. 
He is. 

1233
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:14,160
He is allowed to rise from the 
dead, but only after three days 

1234
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,920
and we are not even through the 
proverbial day one of the post 

1235
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,480
rookie tight end crucifixion 
timeline currently. 

1236
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:25,360
So unfortunate cuz we've got a 
lot of Coulson Loveland on our 

1237
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,720
our shared FFPC teams. 
It's not. 

1238
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:33,680
I thought the price was right, 
but it's looking pretty, it's 

1239
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:38,960
looking pretty bad where he he's
he's a dog to he's he's cold. 

1240
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,440
Command is leading pretty 
handily in the tight end snaps, 

1241
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,160
but then even that even Co Comet
isn't having a great role. 

1242
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:51,640
So it it it does like tight end 
is a lot of it is about how the 

1243
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,560
coach wants to use you. 
And it does not appear that Ben 

1244
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,400
Johnson wants to use these tight
ends. 

1245
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,080
Maybe, maybe maybe that's like 
too premature read given that 

1246
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,200
they did like Hawkinson, not 
Hawkinson. 

1247
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,640
LaPorte. 
Well, Hawkinson and then 

1248
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,400
LaPorte, yeah. 
So maybe that's premature, 

1249
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,520
especially given how that season
went for them last year where 

1250
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,480
they didn't use them and then 
they used them a lot. 

1251
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:21,520
And so I guess still room for 
him to rise from the dead like 

1252
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:28,480
you said, but you can cook close
in Loveland if, if, if you 

1253
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:31,520
haven't already, you should. 
Yeah, in a home league, you're 

1254
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,720
cutting him, obviously, like an 
FFPC. 

1255
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,440
There's no way you're cutting 
him, you know? 

1256
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:37,400
No, no, no. 
Yeah, correct. 

1257
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,400
Correct, cuz the the ceiling 
there in the tight end premium 

1258
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:44,200
format is also just so high 
where right he gets in and he's 

1259
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,160
he's the number 2 target on the 
bears offense. 

1260
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,080
Like that's just such a 
tremendous ceiling that you're 

1261
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,040
just you're sad that it's not 
helpful right now, but you're 

1262
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,000
not, you know, saying it could 
never happen, but it's certainly

1263
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,720
not happening yet. 
Someone who it is happening 

1264
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:05,240
right now for is Tucker Craft. 
You get he has a really good 

1265
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,840
game off the back of the Jordan 
Reed injury where things begin 

1266
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,280
to consolidate a little bit more
for the Packers pass catchers. 

1267
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,240
He has a ton of yards after 
catch. 

1268
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:21,080
I'm not I haven't been the 
biggest Tucker Craft believer 

1269
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,560
where in the past I thought his 
production was a lot of like, 

1270
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,960
hey, he's the little outlet guy 
like on on these little dump 

1271
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,760
offs and then he ends up getting
a lot of yards after catch. 

1272
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,160
It's like you you like that 
yards after catch are good. 

1273
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,080
But to me, it wasn't like he 
wasn't. 

1274
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:44,560
Going to be his games were built
on on a short yardage passes and

1275
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,480
then he fucking houses it. 
It's like a, It's like an 

1276
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,200
evident. 
Very any targets, but when he 

1277
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,080
did, he'd house a couple of 
them. 

1278
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,640
Yeah, it was like evident, of 
course. 

1279
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,640
But you can't build a plane on 
that. 

1280
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:04,160
But now you add like pretty 
strong and like routes pretty 

1281
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:10,440
strong targets wit he's also 
going to house short and target 

1282
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:15,040
and short targets. 
So it's looking pretty strong 

1283
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,160
for Tucker Croft. 
I agree. 

1284
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,280
Yeah, I'm pretty bullish on him 
going forward. 

1285
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:24,480
He's a guy where like for best 
ball, his price was much lower 

1286
01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:26,680
on DraftKings than it was on 
underdog. 

1287
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,680
And so I, I have a bunch of him 
on DraftKings. 

1288
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,760
I'm overweight and I'm super 
underweight on underdog. 

1289
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,520
Feels bad on the underdog teams,
but it's also like, well, it's 

1290
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,400
just here's a price difference. 
And that was, you know, I, I 

1291
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:43,880
played it, you know, that way. 
And so I'm I'm not I'm still not

1292
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,240
to the point where I'm like 
fully sold that like all my 

1293
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,080
DraftKings Tucker craft teams 
are going to win everything 

1294
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,800
because he's such a smash. 
Kind of like a little has. 

1295
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:58,440
Yeah, yeah, at the one, you 
know, and really it's like this,

1296
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,800
you know, this second game was 
the the really big one for him. 

1297
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:05,840
But I I would say I'm trending 
with, you know, in the much more

1298
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,440
bullish direction for Craft than
I previously was. 

1299
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,720
So it definitely it's setting up
to be strong for him right now. 

1300
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,360
The other guy, I think this will
be the one that we'll probably 

1301
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,600
talk about the longest here is 
Brock Bowers. 

1302
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,960
So Bowers still strong targets 
for route run and decreases from

1303
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,600
week 1 where he played fewer 
snaps. 

1304
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,240
He actually plays more snaps in 
Week 2, higher percentage of the

1305
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,760
snaps in Week 2 with the knee 
brace on. 

1306
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,560
He did look a little Hanford to 
start the game. 

1307
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,840
Some notes that I had from 
watching every snap of this 

1308
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,720
game, and I was I was watching 
Bowers specifically basically 

1309
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,920
every play because I have quite 
a bit of financial interest in 

1310
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,680
Brock Bowers. 
So here's what I saw. 

1311
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,040
The Chargers were very much 
focusing on taking away Brock 

1312
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,640
Bowers. 
He was bracketed on an extremely

1313
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,360
high number of plays where they 
were committing a lot of 

1314
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,800
defenders to Brock Bowers. 
There were still some plays 

1315
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,440
where it didn't matter that 
Brock Bowers was double covered,

1316
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:11,280
they just threw to him anyway. 
But there were a lot of plays 

1317
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,240
where he's double covered at the
beginning of the game. 

1318
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:19,160
If you go back to Week 1 when 
Brock Bowers was on the field, 

1319
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:24,360
the first place Gino looked in 
almost every play was to Brock 

1320
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,360
Bowers. 
It was like just every time 

1321
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,400
Gino's looking at Brock Bowers 
in week one, in Week 2, that was

1322
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,200
not the case. 
At the start of the game, like 

1323
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,720
the whole first half, basically 
he wasn't looking. 

1324
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,920
His head was in on the opposite 
side of the field then Bowers. 

1325
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,560
And to me, that is maybe 
indicative of like, hey, they 

1326
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,880
didn't think Bowers was totally 
100%, so they didn't want to 

1327
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,200
pepper him with targets. 
They're happy to use him as AD 

1328
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,160
coin, just take all this double 
coverage. 

1329
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,040
So that was near the start of 
the game. 

1330
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,560
As the game progressed, they 
started to just be like, OK, we 

1331
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,800
need to, we need to do more 
Brock Bauer stuff. 

1332
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,560
He got more targets as the game 
went on. 

1333
01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:09,200
Gino also misses him badly for a
touchdown near the end of the 

1334
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,640
game. 
Bauer's is open, he's in the end

1335
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,920
zone and Gino just sails him. 
Unfortunately it it also was a 

1336
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,360
catch where I've seen Brock 
Bowers elevate enough to get 

1337
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,680
that in the past. 
So I do wonder how much the knee

1338
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:27,280
affected him. 
I would say since he played even

1339
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,000
more snaps than he is probably a
minor deal where it's just like,

1340
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,840
hey, it's it's not a big time 
injury, he'll probably be back. 

1341
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,840
I'm yeah, I'm gonna say like 
sometimes even with the very, 

1342
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,880
very, very best players, the 
defense just says you're not 

1343
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,080
winning through this guy. 
And they don't have the monster 

1344
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,240
games. 
Like that happened for Brock 

1345
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,520
Bears last year towards the end 
of the year, I think it was the 

1346
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:54,160
Falcons they played where 
Gretchen and I had a we we had a

1347
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,880
big root and interest in Bowers 
and like, we needed a big game 

1348
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,480
and a big game would have put us
over. 

1349
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,800
But they just decided no, no, 
no, no Brock Bowers. 

1350
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,360
And like you, you, you had that 
with A.J. 

1351
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,000
Brown, with the Chiefs in Week 
1. 

1352
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,280
Like I remember there was like 
Julio Jones games where. 

1353
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:18,760
No, no, Julio Jones, sometimes 
they're CDM games and still 

1354
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:19,880
getting. 
What was it like? 

1355
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,240
I think it was like 5 targets. 
Yeah, so like I think he gets, 

1356
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,800
he gets 8 targets in the Game, 5
receptions, 5 catches. 

1357
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:30,960
Yeah, so still like still solid,
honestly still solid. 

1358
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,920
And from like you, you you watch
the game. 

1359
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,600
I didn't stay up for it. 
I didn't watch it in the 

1360
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,120
morning. 
So you have like the kind of 

1361
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:46,160
more watch the game take from a 
statistical standpoint, it just 

1362
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,800
feels like you're not gonna hit,
you're not gonna get a Smash 

1363
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,200
game every game. 
That's just not how this works. 

1364
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,360
And so if you're gonna get a 
four-game and you're still 

1365
01:20:55,360 --> 01:21:00,680
getting 5 catches, and that 
still seems pretty good. 

1366
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,200
Yeah, it did. 
The the frustrating thing with 

1367
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,720
watching the Raiders last night 
was it really seemed like they 

1368
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,920
were allergic to using their 
best players. 

1369
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,920
Like they're taking Genti off 
the field for Dylan Loudy and 

1370
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,680
getting Zamir White in there. 
And, you know, Bowers is is not 

1371
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,160
getting targeted. 
They're targeting, you know, 

1372
01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:24,080
Deonte Thornton and Kobe Meyer 
and Trey Tucker and. 

1373
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,000
I mean, I, I kind of get it in 
the start of the game where 

1374
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,560
like, hey, he's a little banged 
up. 

1375
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,720
They're putting all of their 
attention on taking this guy 

1376
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,840
away. 
We kind of like these other 

1377
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,280
guys. 
Let's see what they can do. 

1378
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:41,560
And then we're like, OK, well, 
like actually we need Brock, 

1379
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,160
Brock. 
We need Brock Bears to do Brock 

1380
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,120
Bears things. 
Yeah. 

1381
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,360
And so that's kind of my my take
away is I'm thinking that 

1382
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,520
they'll learn the lesson of 
like, it's just it's just got to

1383
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,880
go through this guy like that's 
he's our dude. 

1384
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:00,880
Like this is how it has to be. 
That's probably going to come 

1385
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,840
across as copium given how how 
much of A Brock Bowers bowl I 

1386
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,960
am. 
But I just I feel like that's 

1387
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,360
the most likely outcome is 
they've just got to learn the 

1388
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,360
Brock Bowers lesson where it's 
like just like, you know, the 

1389
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,720
Rams know where. 
Yeah, the Rams know where their 

1390
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,120
bread is buttered. 
The Rams. 

1391
01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:23,000
The Rams spam Puka Nakua over 
and over and over. 

1392
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,080
And and they make it work. 
You know, like it doesn't matter

1393
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,000
that defenses know that it's 
going to go to puka Nakua. 

1394
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,880
They they find a way because 
he's your best player. 

1395
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,720
And I think the same will be 
true for Brock Bowers. 

1396
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,040
Hopefully he can get over the 
knee injury doesn't need the 

1397
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,400
brace next week. 
I mean, you know what the 

1398
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,960
Raiders actually needed? 
They really needed some stuff to

1399
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:48,000
slow down that Chargers pass 
rush like, But Brock Bauer's end

1400
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,280
around where all of a sudden, 
like all these guys in the pass 

1401
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,000
rush are, are committed and just
flying by him and he ends up 

1402
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,920
taking a hand off. 
And now he's, you know, 

1403
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:00,320
one-on-one with a linebacker. 
And then he gets by that and 

1404
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,320
it's like, OK. 
And now Brock Bauer just has 

1405
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:06,240
safeties to be like, that could 
have been the kind of thing that

1406
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,680
they needed in the arsenal to 
really slow the Chargers down 

1407
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,240
because the Chargers were just 
pinning their ears back and 

1408
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,080
getting them like it was it was 
ugly. 

1409
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,160
It was rough to watch. 
Yeah. 

1410
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,360
If you're a Raiders fan, I and 
you missed the game, 

1411
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,400
congratulations. 
Like don't go back and watch it.

1412
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,160
It was not. 
You didn't want to, you didn't 

1413
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:26,600
want to see that as a Raiders 
fan. 

1414
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,280
So I got to hope they learned 
the lessons from that game. 

1415
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:35,560
But we can move on from Bowers, 
a guy that I wanted to talk 

1416
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:40,080
about who got a good number of 
targets agitating on Sanders. 

1417
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:44,560
Now the Panthers had a huge, 
huge number of plays. 

1418
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:50,440
You know, the the Cardinals end 
up with a terrible fumble near 

1419
01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:54,000
the end of the game to open the 
door for the Panthers to try and

1420
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,800
come back. 
Cardinals just I think the 

1421
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,600
Cardinals really, really stink, 
man. 

1422
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:06,760
They they may be very bad. 
I'm trying to leave pull up. 

1423
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:12,320
So let, let me, let me go on 
what I think under Tavion. 

1424
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:18,400
So he's at 65% routes. 
The other guys are 33% and 5%. 

1425
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,640
So he's what he's what you see 
on the chart here where he's 

1426
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,400
kind of like a in tiers of 
starter. 

1427
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:33,320
He's kind of like a lower top 
tier reality starter where he's 

1428
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:38,000
get like he's not it's this is 
not a committee. 

1429
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,680
This is not a tight end 
committee. 

1430
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:44,000
This is like he's a he's a 
starter and then the other guys 

1431
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:51,360
will get some run too. 
And and if you, if you can, if 

1432
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:56,440
you see that continued and he's 
continuing to get the targets 

1433
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,840
and they're continuing to drop 
back as much as they have to 

1434
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,760
like Jutavion Sanders is is 
especially a cost like tight end

1435
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,320
premium is, is I think is pretty
good. 

1436
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,120
He was he was great for tight 
end premium. 

1437
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,120
He's just, you know, getting the
PPR scam stuff. 

1438
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,200
So I pulled up what I wanted to 
pull up and it felt like this 

1439
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,680
from watching the game, but I'm 
glad to to confirm it with the 

1440
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,640
PFF stats. 
Basically all of the jetavion 

1441
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:29,920
Sanders targets are just right 
in front of Bryce Young middle 

1442
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,760
of the field, you know, less 
than 10 yards from the line of 

1443
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,720
scrimmage. 
It's all these little rinky 

1444
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:40,080
dink, emergency panic, get the 
ball out type shit where it's 

1445
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,040
these quick hitters. 
I think it's a symptom of the 

1446
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,480
offense as a whole being 
dysfunctional where Bryce is 

1447
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:51,120
just not being successful at 
operating within structure a lot

1448
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,800
of the time. 
And he's he's really struggling 

1449
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:58,160
to, you know, to actually push 
the ball down the field. 

1450
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:03,720
You know, there'll be spurts 
where it's going OK with with 

1451
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,560
Pet. 
But yeah, I think this is the 

1452
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:11,800
symptom of of the offense being 
broken where it's like he's just

1453
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,400
taking these little check downs 
and they're they're just not 

1454
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,680
really doing anything. 
It's it's not a. 

1455
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,160
It's just like how we check. 
Downs. 

1456
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,760
I mean, they're not check downs 
he's getting. 

1457
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,920
He's got like 9.4 A dot. 
Yeah, no, they're not. 

1458
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,360
They're not check downs. 
That's not fair. 

1459
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:31,960
But they're all just from 
watching them. 

1460
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,240
They're all these little quick 
like. 

1461
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,920
Right, I get you. 
Quick release routes like it's 

1462
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,720
it's very. 
My take away from watching 

1463
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:46,280
Bryce, so I actually did watch a
good few of the drop backs, is 

1464
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,920
that when the defense was in 
zone, he was actually pretty 

1465
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:54,240
good at identifying the seams in
those zones and hitting those. 

1466
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,880
And so that probably does suit 
Jatavion a little more. 

1467
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:02,680
And I think that lines up a 
little bit more with him getting

1468
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,440
decent yardage on on the trolls 
too. 

1469
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,480
But when, when they're against 
man and he has to fit it in 

1470
01:27:08,480 --> 01:27:11,000
there, he he, he's not a home 
with that. 

1471
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:15,600
That's a that's, I think that's 
a good read there. 

1472
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,320
OK, that's, that's enough. 
Jatavion Sanders, the other guy 

1473
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,960
that I think we have to talk 
about, we mentioned him last 

1474
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:30,120
week as well, but Tyler Warren, 
Tyler Warren is just taking, you

1475
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:34,040
know how the last year the 
Colts, you know, it was Pittman 

1476
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:38,800
and and Downs both getting a ton
of that first read stuff last 

1477
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,520
year. 
Tyler Warren is that this year 

1478
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,080
they're really, really bears. 
Take notes. 

1479
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,280
You know, you draft a tight end 
really high, maybe get him 

1480
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,280
involved, make him a focal 
point. 

1481
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,320
But yeah, Tyler Warren getting 
super, super involved. 

1482
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,200
He had a ton of yards after 
catch as well. 

1483
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,720
I think he was second only to 
Tucker Craft this week. 

1484
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,000
So he's he's looking like a 
smash at cost. 

1485
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,720
Yeah, just the trend from Week 1
seems to be confirmed with him. 

1486
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:13,120
Right, Yeah, yeah, where I I 
think I I saw that Gretch was 

1487
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,960
saying that, hey, he's the 
primary and a lot of these 

1488
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:20,840
orpos, which makes a lot of 
sense, a lot of sense. 

1489
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,480
So like kind of like it, it does
seem like kind of like a perfect

1490
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:28,880
fit for the offense. 
Great player and and his style 

1491
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:30,720
is a perfect fit for the 
offense. 

1492
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,760
With that, they've kind of like 
actually they correctly 

1493
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,760
identified who would work for 
them and and how to get them 

1494
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,160
involved. 
So that, that does seem pretty 

1495
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:44,960
fantastic. 
Yeah, OK, 2 two more guys on the

1496
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,520
tight end chart and then we can 
move on to wide receivers. 

1497
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,760
Sam Laporta Are are you worried 
about Sam Laporta? 

1498
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:54,880
Is there better stuff to come in
the future? 

1499
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,840
What are your what are your 
Laporta thoughts? 

1500
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:01,040
So give me one second. 
I'm just pulling up. 

1501
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,040
I'm just one. 
I'm pulling up at the the 

1502
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:12,600
general LaPorte stuff. 
So Week 2 they had 29 dropbacks,

1503
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:19,000
which is obviously down because 
they were beating the brakes off

1504
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:26,240
of off of the bears. 
So 72% route rate after an 88% 

1505
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:33,640
right, right in week 1 and 4 
targets after 8 targets in week 

1506
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:39,800
1. 
I don't know, like that's not 

1507
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:46,320
ideal obviously. 
And I think he's like a good 

1508
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:52,600
tertiary target for for the 
Lions, obviously not encouraging

1509
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:53,880
that. 
They like they beat the brakes 

1510
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,520
off somebody and, and he's not 
having a great game. 

1511
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:06,920
And but he had what, 88 targets 
for 79 yards in Week 1 and 

1512
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:13,320
followed by a down game. 
And are you worried you're 

1513
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,480
probably, you're probably 
worried about that at the FFPC 

1514
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:21,720
cost where you went in round 
four and that that doesn't feel 

1515
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,280
great, especially when when 
you're talking about kind of 

1516
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:29,200
like these mid round smashes and
and late round smashes. 

1517
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,160
I don't. 
I don't think you're worried 

1518
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:36,360
like he's still going to have 
his days, but you're probably a 

1519
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,600
tad disappointed so far is what 
I'd say. 

1520
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,960
Yeah, I think he's definitely, 
you know, you're not happy with 

1521
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,200
the cost that you paid there. 
Let me ask you about a couple 

1522
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,680
guys just straight up you can 
magically swap Laporta for this 

1523
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:53,120
guy on your basketball teams. 
You want Sam Laporta or you want

1524
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:57,000
Tyler Warren? 
At this point, you want Tyler 

1525
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,320
Warren, don't you? 
Yeah. 

1526
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:05,880
Sam Laporta or Tucker Craft, I 
think that's pretty close. 

1527
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,720
I think I'd probably give 
Laporta the edge there. 

1528
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:15,080
OK, Sam Laporta or Kyle Pitts. 
That's so funny cuz Kyle Pitts 

1529
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:19,640
is obviously he's emerge from 
the dead where he's, he's, he's 

1530
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:25,480
saying what 80% routes, then a 
21% target spread run 5.2 A dot 

1531
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:30,400
like we, we would have killed 
for this, this usage last year, 

1532
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:34,040
like we were, we were on our on 
our hands and knees like begging

1533
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:41,160
for this usage. 
And I, I think that's again 

1534
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:44,960
pretty close, but probably, 
probably dueling at La Porta. 

1535
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,520
But, but pretty close. 
Pretty close. 

1536
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,120
OK, this is a great outcome for 
for Pitts. 

1537
01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:54,720
Yeah, all right. 
And just two more Sam Laporta, 

1538
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,880
Jatavian Sanders. 
Laporta, Laporta. 

1539
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,720
Yeah, they agree. 
I got the sense the next one's 

1540
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,440
gonna be easy too. 
I don't know. 

1541
01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:06,040
It depends on your your 
persuasion, Sam Laporta or 

1542
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:13,040
Harold Fannon. 
And it's it's, it's Laporta. 

1543
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:17,640
It's still Laporta, but you know
the the slappy inside Dream 

1544
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,200
wants to say that it's Harold 
Fannon. 

1545
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:24,240
Yeah, I actually, I have a home 
league where I've got Laporta on

1546
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:28,840
my bench and I see a fan in 
there and I'm like, oh, should I

1547
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,240
do it? 
Should I do it? 

1548
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,360
But no, you got to do Laporta. 
Yeah. 

1549
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,000
All right. 
I think those are all the tight 

1550
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,680
ends. 
The only other one I had notes 

1551
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,320
on was Pits, but we talked 
enough about him. 

1552
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,360
Yeah, yeah. 
And I don't feel the need to 

1553
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:52,560
torture us ourselves with any 
more backup tight end 

1554
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,160
discussion. 
Yeah, Evan Ingram, super toast, 

1555
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:58,080
by the way, we talked about him 
possibly being toast last week, 

1556
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,920
but he had the ankle injury. 
He he left twice with an ankle 

1557
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:02,640
injury. 
So it's like maybe it wasn't 

1558
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:07,520
actually rotational Evan Ingram.
Maybe it was just no, he think 

1559
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,520
he played 51% of snaps this 
week. 

1560
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,520
You might say that. 
Oh, he was still Hanford Hanford

1561
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,400
by the ankle injury. 
He's off the injury report, 

1562
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,800
though. 
But you know, guy guy still 

1563
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,880
could have a little bit. 
It doesn't really matter. 

1564
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,960
Like you tell yourself whatever 
makes you sleep at night, but 

1565
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,840
I'm just telling you to help 
you. 

1566
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:27,040
Evan Ingram doesn't belong on 
your fantasy roster anymore. 

1567
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:33,000
He's he's not a thing. 
Yeah, yeah, like the the Joker 

1568
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:37,640
is is whoever dropped at him, 
unfortunately, which it it's me 

1569
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,080
as well. 
I drafted him too and but. 

1570
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,840
Yeah, yeah, I haven't been to 
Dynasty League where I could 

1571
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,320
have flipped him this offseason 
on the on the Joker roll signing

1572
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:49,880
news. 
And yeah, I'm, I'm putting the 

1573
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:58,560
clown makeup on right now. 
And so I guess on the receiver 

1574
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,160
chart here, I don't want to 
spend too much time on Jamar 

1575
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:05,400
Chase just because, yeah, he, I,
I think he's just doing the 

1576
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:09,320
things that he was kind of 
expected to do that they're sort

1577
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,760
of surprising stuff. 
And that's, and let's start off 

1578
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:19,360
with Zay Flowers and JSN where I
think I know them, Jacob had 

1579
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,640
kind of like a thing like 
comparing them like, hey, why 

1580
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,480
wasn't Jay Flowers being talked 
alongside JSN? 

1581
01:34:25,480 --> 01:34:29,920
And I think he's right, yeah. 
Where they're like kind of like 

1582
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:35,160
low drop back offenses, but 
these are these both these 

1583
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:40,280
receivers are just the guys and 
they have really, really high 

1584
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,400
usage rates. 
Like we're looking at them 

1585
01:34:42,440 --> 01:34:45,200
around 100% way to target spread
run. 

1586
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:50,840
Like that's like a target kill 
from 2023 when he was on a snap,

1587
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:55,200
snap limitation and rate. 
So, so obviously pretty 

1588
01:34:55,240 --> 01:35:01,800
unsustainable, but love to see 
absolute, absolute focal point 

1589
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:05,320
and they are smashing and so 
that I think that's pretty 

1590
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,680
fantastic. 
Yeah this is this is what the 

1591
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,800
Zay Flowers breakout looks like.
This is what the JSN breakout 

1592
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:15,360
looks like. 
Man, I wish I had more JSN cuz I

1593
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:20,120
really felt like he was a player
that I was more bullish on, but 

1594
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:25,720
I didn't I didn't really IKB to 
him enough that that's the one 

1595
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,880
where I wish I had that, that 
opportunity back. 

1596
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:29,480
So I would have, should have 
slammed him. 

1597
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:35,800
The other. 
I mean, I got to, I got to take 

1598
01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:42,120
an L on a guy here, Roma Dunsay.
I mean, he's, he's running super

1599
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,200
hot on touchdowns right now. 
Like I don't think does he have,

1600
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,120
does he have 3 touchdowns so 
far? 

1601
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:52,880
Am I correct? 
I actually, I don't know, give 

1602
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,840
me a second, Sorry that that 
sounds like something that we 

1603
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:57,720
should have on hand for a statue
show. 

1604
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,680
No, no, it's, it's OK. 
I, I sprung it upon you. 

1605
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,800
I believe he does. 
Yeah. 

1606
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,440
He's got 3 touchdowns. 
So listen everybody, Roma Dunze 

1607
01:36:05,480 --> 01:36:08,480
will not score 25 touchdowns 
this season. 

1608
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,520
It's just what he's currently on
pace for. 

1609
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,560
So we're gonna see a little 
regression here. 

1610
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:19,480
His price was really hot where 
he basically had to do this to 

1611
01:36:19,480 --> 01:36:22,040
pay the price off. 
Unfortunately for me, he is 

1612
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:26,280
doing this, so it's not great 
right now. 

1613
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:31,000
I'm and I I really don't think 
the process was that bad to fade

1614
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,320
him is like, I'm still not even 
getting buried by him. 

1615
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:38,160
He's he's having, you know, 
crazy games already and I'm not 

1616
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,880
getting buried yet just because 
the price is so high. 

1617
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,320
Yeah, if he keeps doing this, 
I'm I'm dead and buried by him. 

1618
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,000
But. 
Like if like that, to me, that's

1619
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,800
the main take away. 
Romo Dunze is good. 

1620
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,680
Yep. 
He's, he's good. 

1621
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,080
Yeah, Yeah. 
Like maybe maybe. 

1622
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:02,200
The offense is failing, but he 
individually is smashing and and

1623
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:06,080
he's so far he's taken DJ Muir's
at lunch money. 

1624
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:08,640
Yeah. 
It's it's kind of interesting 

1625
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:14,080
that what they install DJ Muir 
as the ex this year, put Dunze 

1626
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:20,960
in the flanker row and then and 
that kind of seems to mean that 

1627
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,040
they're prioritizing it, getting
a doomsday the ball more, which 

1628
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:33,120
is what they're doing. 
And so yeah, he's he's a strong 

1629
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:36,960
player and you're obviously 
starting a doomsday at wherever 

1630
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,520
you have them. 
Yeah. 

1631
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:44,040
One, one guy I wanted to mention
kind of in there's a through 

1632
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:49,560
line with JSN and O Doonese and 
Brian Thomas Junior and that is 

1633
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:54,160
that we have seen Shane Waldron 
touch the lives of all of these 

1634
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,040
men. 
And when Shane Waldron was 

1635
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:01,960
involved with JSNJSN did not 
perform to his expectations, 

1636
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,600
still have a fine rookie year, 
you know, but underperformed 

1637
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,520
relative to expectation. 
Waldron leaves town, JSN 

1638
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:12,320
immediately supplants DK Metcalf
as the wide receiver 1, so much 

1639
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,000
so that they go and trade DK 
Metcalf in the offseason. 

1640
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:19,800
And now JSN looks like, you 
know, he's in the tier of like 

1641
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:22,280
power slot receiver, like CD 
Lamb. 

1642
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:25,320
Like he he is. 
He's operating at that level 

1643
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:29,720
like the almond raw, the CD Lamb
of the NFL, where this is this 

1644
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,920
is the guy where the offense 
flows through him and he can 

1645
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:35,040
operate it at all depths of the 
field and win everywhere. 

1646
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:40,600
And then you get Roma Doonsay 
where Shane Waldron touches his 

1647
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:42,720
life. 
He has a terrible rookie season 

1648
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,680
just, you know, looks like an 
abject bust. 

1649
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,800
And Shane Waldron leaves and all
of a sudden, Roma Doonsay is out

1650
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:54,800
here just rubbing my nose in it.
And then you have Brian Thomas, 

1651
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:58,080
who's Shane Waldron has come 
into his life and he goes from 

1652
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,360
electric rookie season. 
You know it's getting drafted at

1653
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:05,280
the end of the first round to 
now you know he's getting cucked

1654
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:07,400
by Diani Brown out there on the 
field. 

1655
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:13,800
So one has to ask, is the Shane 
Waldron trend so strong that 

1656
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,480
when Shane Waldron's inevitably 
fired from the Jags passing game

1657
01:39:17,480 --> 01:39:21,480
coordinator job next year, do we
buy the Brian Thomas bounce 

1658
01:39:21,480 --> 01:39:23,880
back? 
And more importantly, if Shane 

1659
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:29,000
Waldron somehow weasels his way 
into another NFL organization, 

1660
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,400
do you just fade those pass 
catchers at all costs? 

1661
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:37,000
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like 
that's the story at this point, 

1662
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,800
and I'm still not ready to bury 
Brian Thomas. 

1663
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,000
No, no, I I was being a little 
melody. 

1664
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:47,640
Yeah, yeah. 
But it's a yeah, it's a good, 

1665
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,720
it's a good like segue to Brian.
So we just talked about guys 

1666
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,760
having great success this year. 
So Brian Thomas, obviously not 

1667
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:59,360
and his his usage fantastic, his
results terrible. 

1668
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:04,480
And I think I saw the, the ETR, 
they, they did their expected 

1669
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:08,280
fantasy charts and, and he's 
like one of the most under 

1670
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:14,440
expected guys on that chart of 
any kind of skill position. 

1671
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:19,840
And I know the vibes are bad 
where people are like, hey, he's

1672
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,480
like, he's not ready to take the
shots over the middle. 

1673
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:27,560
And he's kind of alligator in 
arms, alligator arming stuff 

1674
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:31,440
that he should be kind of 
stronger on the catch point. 

1675
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:40,360
And it's hard, it's hard for me 
to like, it's hard for me to 

1676
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:45,520
kind of predict how that goes 
because like, like the, the tape

1677
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:50,880
watchers are like this dude is 
playing bad and, and, and, and 

1678
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,880
it's hard for me to like, how do
we just oppose that with we know

1679
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,280
he's good. 
Do we think that he just 

1680
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,480
continued? 
Like, has he just like have the 

1681
01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:05,640
Monstars or Shane Waldron stolen
his talent and he will be bad 

1682
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:09,280
forevermore? 
And I, I, I, I think you, you 

1683
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:14,320
have to react to per play, like 
you've got to adjust your 

1684
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,280
expectations for Brian Thomas on
that. 

1685
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:24,560
But you also keep in mind that 
he's got a lot of talent and and

1686
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:28,840
you very well could see a return
form. 

1687
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:36,480
So I guess it's kind of feels 
like a high variance play where 

1688
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:43,280
at the high anything, anything 
near to the old cost, like you 

1689
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:47,440
don't play that. 
But if you see if the vibes 

1690
01:41:47,480 --> 01:41:52,320
continue to like deteriorate 
over this week, and let's say 

1691
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,680
I'm trying to think of examples,
let's say it has another bad 

1692
01:41:54,680 --> 01:42:00,920
week and then he ends up being 
like 4K or 5K on DraftKings and 

1693
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:02,440
nobody still nobody wants to 
play them. 

1694
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,800
And that's kind of a scenario 
where you can play into it. 

1695
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:11,600
And if like obviously if 
somebody cuts them, you pick 

1696
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:15,920
them up right away, but you 
still you still want to play 

1697
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:20,280
that upside, but you kind of do 
want to make sure that your your

1698
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:23,400
cost is right is what I'm 
guessing, guessing I'm saying. 

1699
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,800
Yeah, let's talk about some 
other guys. 

1700
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:31,640
Am I like, am I being too cold 
on him there like? 

1701
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,480
I mean, I, I don't think you're 
being particularly cold. 

1702
01:42:35,480 --> 01:42:38,400
You're, you're, I mean, you said
you're not out on him by any 

1703
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:39,840
means. 
You're just, you're not ready 

1704
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,480
to, to call him dead and buried.
And I, I think that'd be a bit 

1705
01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:44,440
of an overreaction to, to do 
that. 

1706
01:42:44,440 --> 01:42:48,600
So he's he's someone where he's 
off to a slow start, but he 

1707
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:52,680
showed us so much as a rookie 
that I'm not overwhelmingly 

1708
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,880
concerned about it. 
It's it's more of an annoyance 

1709
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:58,840
than a concern to me right now, 
is how I would frame it. 

1710
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,840
OK, OK. 
Sounds like you're a little a 

1711
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,600
little more optimistic than I 
am. 

1712
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,600
Yeah, I'm just, I just want to 
zoom out on the chart with a guy

1713
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,640
that was as talented as he was 
in his. 

1714
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:10,200
Room. 
Right. 

1715
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:11,760
Right, right, right, right. 
Yeah. 

1716
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:16,200
So some other some other guys 
that are in this same quadrant 

1717
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:19,120
of the chart that I I want to 
just kind of like quickly go 

1718
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,560
through Mike Evans. 
I think another guy who's a 

1719
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,240
strong candidate for like a a 
big eruption game, getting a lot

1720
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,880
of opportunity in the weighted 
targets per route run, but he's 

1721
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,760
below that median red dotted 
line there. 

1722
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,520
So probably underperforming 
relative to his opportunity. 

1723
01:43:37,480 --> 01:43:41,520
And just from watching the game,
like looks good right now, like 

1724
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:45,160
had a had a big play called back
due to a pass interference 

1725
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:48,560
penalty. 
Like there's you could easily 

1726
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,160
spin me a yarn where Mike Evans 
has a three touchdown game on 

1727
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,840
the near horizon. 
You know, he just he can still 

1728
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,560
do Mike Evans things. 
I right. 

1729
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,760
He didn't surprise me at all, 
the other one. 

1730
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,520
For Drake, London, probably. 
I was, I was about to go to 

1731
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:03,640
Drake London. 
Yeah. 

1732
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,560
The, the thing that's like a 
little worrying with Drake 

1733
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:12,520
London for me is I do think that
he is like a step down in talent

1734
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:17,440
where he's very good. 
But he's you know, he's not the 

1735
01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:21,320
same as like a Nico Collins or 
Brian Thomas level talent. 

1736
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:26,560
I think he's closer, like even 
lab, I'd say lab Mcconkey's much

1737
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,280
more talented than Drake London 
from like a actual football 

1738
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,800
player. 
Like who who is the best at 

1739
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:34,160
playing wide receiver 
standpoint? 

1740
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,000
Like I think lab Mcconkey clears
in there. 

1741
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,280
I I don't think Drake London is 
bad by any means. 

1742
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:45,240
I but like Drake London's a 
worst football player than JSN. 

1743
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,640
He's like probably a worse 
football player than Zay 

1744
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,360
Flowers. 
He's he's like a Michael Pittman

1745
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:55,240
plus plus to me, like he's of 
that archetype where he's this 

1746
01:44:55,240 --> 01:45:00,720
bigger possession receiver where
he's going to get this crazy 

1747
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,320
volume. 
I mean, you've seen him get 

1748
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:06,680
crazy, crazy target volume. 
He just hasn't done a ton with 

1749
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:11,200
it yet this season. 
I think you still can benefit a 

1750
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:15,640
ton from just being willing to 
buy the any negative perception 

1751
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:19,720
on him with with the poor start 
to the season he's had, because 

1752
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,480
anyone that's getting the kind 
of targets that he he's earning 

1753
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,880
can put up a monster game. 
You know, he, he could just do 

1754
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,400
Michael Pittman things and 
catch, you know, week 1 he has 

1755
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:34,600
15 targets, catches 11 of those 
and you know, goes for 10 yards 

1756
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:36,720
of pop. 
Like that's a huge game in PPR, 

1757
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,240
you know, throw a touchdown in 
there and you got a Stew going. 

1758
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,520
So he's not someone that I'm out
on by any means, but he is 

1759
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:46,680
someone where I I want to like 
and, and I'm, I'm ready for 

1760
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,920
this, you know, take to to age 
like milk. 

1761
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:53,960
But he's one where I, I think 
collectively as a fantasy 

1762
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,080
community, you probably need to 
recalibrate our talent 

1763
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,120
assessment of him. 
Like I think he's better than 

1764
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:03,200
Michael Pittman, but I think 
like in that category is closer 

1765
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:07,240
to where he is. 
You know, like a Jacoby Myers 

1766
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:09,840
plus Michael Pitman plus type 
type of guy. 

1767
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:15,120
You're saying he's in the tier 
in between those, in between 

1768
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:19,640
those guys and and let's say 
Negro Collins. 

1769
01:46:20,440 --> 01:46:23,120
Yeah, he's he's like ahead of 
Michael Pitman, ahead of Jacoby 

1770
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,880
Myers, but he's he's clearly a a
full tier down from like Nico 

1771
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:31,680
Collins, Ladd Mcconkey, like 
would you would you how would 

1772
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:37,440
you categorize Chris a lot Alave
fantastic. 

1773
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,440
You know like better better 
talent wise than Drake London, 

1774
01:46:40,440 --> 01:46:49,480
right? 
Like has earned targets and to 

1775
01:46:49,480 --> 01:46:51,800
me those guys come out as as 
pretty close. 

1776
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,720
OK. 
I think they're they're pretty 

1777
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:57,400
close prospect wise. 
They've shown pretty similar 

1778
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:03,320
ability to earn targets and 
like, they're not like you're 

1779
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,520
not in that kind of Justin 
Jefferson tier where it's just 

1780
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:10,600
like nobody can cover this guy. 
He's just going to torch you Am.

1781
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:15,120
But still, like, they're, 
they're still very, very good 

1782
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:22,360
Am's like strong target earners 
and, and, and producers probably

1783
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:27,280
maybe not quite able to ascend 
am to elite level out of like 

1784
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,800
weird, weird situations. 
I, I guess this is the best 

1785
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:35,520
situation Drake London's ever 
been in his career. 

1786
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:39,120
And but he's not, he's obviously
not been able to ascend out of 

1787
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:43,600
like bad situations to like a, 
a, a fantastic degree. 

1788
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:49,200
Yeah, and, and it's probably 
similar with a lobby where I, I 

1789
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:53,280
think a lobby is great, but I, I
do think London is similar. 

1790
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:59,520
Is there anyone else on this 
chart that you wanted to spend 

1791
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:03,600
time on or should we move on? 
Yeah, and we can do some quick 

1792
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:09,160
hitters where George Pickens, I 
think clear Batman, actually 

1793
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:14,080
clear Robin to CD lamps Batman 
not, not a great surprise or 

1794
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:19,840
anything like that, but it's 
been pretty clear through two 

1795
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:23,400
weeks. 
Same with DJ Moore, which is 

1796
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,600
surprising, but that's what 
that's what the case has been. 

1797
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,040
Same with Marvin Harrison to 
Trey McBride. 

1798
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:39,360
Then what else? 
I think I think that covers it. 

1799
01:48:39,440 --> 01:48:41,760
I think I think we've I think I 
don't think I have anything to 

1800
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:45,680
say to anybody would be 
surprised to hear on that on 

1801
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,840
this chart. 
I guess I do know that Mecca 

1802
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:57,200
Buka still kind of in this 
weird, not like OK ish and 

1803
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:01,360
opportunity per rat run metric. 
You still OK ish. 

1804
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:06,120
They're not great at well want 
to keep an eye on that and. 

1805
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:09,160
Yeah, he, he was banged up, 
Bruce, he was banged up at the 

1806
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:13,280
end of the game yesterday. 
They were wrapping I I think it 

1807
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:15,840
was a wrap for his hamstring. 
They're wrapping like his, his 

1808
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:19,240
upper leg, like hamstring area. 
I believe it was probably a 

1809
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:23,240
hammy that they were wrapping 
him for, but during the game 

1810
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:26,960
they're actually commenting on 
like how tight that rap was and 

1811
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:28,640
that it looked like it was 
hindering him a little bit. 

1812
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:32,480
He gets a target, you know, down
the middle could could be a 

1813
01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:35,480
touchdown, but just looks like 
he's not. 

1814
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:39,520
It was a it was a tough throw as
well, like it was, it was would 

1815
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,280
have been a hard is. 
That the one where you have to 

1816
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,200
kind of like go over the 
shoulder? 

1817
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,920
Yep. 
Like, yeah, that, that one I 

1818
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:48,120
remember people are like, you 
dropped it and I'm like, that's 

1819
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:51,160
a pretty tough catch to make. 
It was a tough catch and he's, 

1820
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:55,040
you know, he just got wrapped up
on the sideline like the guy is 

1821
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:58,000
probably not moving at his very,
very best right there. 

1822
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:04,000
So not super concerning to me. 
The one the ones that I I'll 

1823
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:06,760
very quickly just say my piece 
and we can go to the next chart.

1824
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:10,080
Rashid Shaheed very much like 
the third fiddle on that offense

1825
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:14,560
behind Joan Johnson, Crystal 
Wabe, Jameson Williams. 

1826
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:19,120
The Jamo Fish get bailed out 
again by the long touchdown and 

1827
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:22,640
and you can say that's the 
thesis all you want, but man 

1828
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:26,200
like Jameson Williams is not. 
Is not a paper. 

1829
01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:29,000
No he's not. 
I mean the the weighted targets 

1830
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,360
per route run are are nothing 
like. 

1831
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:33,520
I mean, he was well on his way 
to. 

1832
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:38,680
Enjoy your prayer yards. 
Yeah, yeah, DK Metcalf also just

1833
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:43,040
like a you're hoping, you're 
hoping and praying you got 0% DK

1834
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:47,160
Metcalf at this point that is 
not a not a player you want to 

1835
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:51,240
see on your fantasy rosters. 
Cedric Tillman, I think more of 

1836
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,440
a mirage than anything. 
He catches like a deflected 

1837
01:50:53,440 --> 01:50:56,680
touchdown this week. 
He's he's probably going to be 

1838
01:50:56,680 --> 01:51:00,440
an annoyance to the the Jerry 
Judy drafters who think, you 

1839
01:51:00,440 --> 01:51:02,760
know, Jerry Judy is, is the 
clear alpha there. 

1840
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,360
Cedric Tillman is just an 
annoying thorn in your side, 

1841
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,200
reminding you that Jerry Judy is
not actually that good because 

1842
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:12,080
he cannot beat Cedric Tillman 
for like a strong command of the

1843
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:17,680
targets in the offense. 
And then Ricky Pearsall getting 

1844
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:22,560
put in the cut chair by much 
slower, much less athletic Jawan

1845
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,840
Jennings. 
Yeah, the Ricky Pearsall thing 

1846
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,560
is not happening. 
Ricky Pearsall is like a 

1847
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:31,800
complimentary player that that 
they can use to do occasional 

1848
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,880
Debo things and then also 
occasional Ayuk things. 

1849
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:41,480
He's like Timu Debu, Timu Debo 
and Timo Ayuk, Timu Ayuk all in 

1850
01:51:41,480 --> 01:51:46,240
one player where he is, you 
know, not not going to be able 

1851
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:49,560
to do what either of them could 
at their their peaks. 

1852
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:55,080
But he is like he's athletic 
enough and and can do some of 

1853
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:58,480
that stuff where he's a valuable
piece in their offense. 

1854
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:02,760
But I would I would be ready for
the Ricky Pearsall role to 

1855
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,000
decrease as the season 
progresses. 

1856
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:08,800
When you get healthy George 
Kittle and healthy Brandon IU 

1857
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:12,560
back in the lineup because 
already we're seeing, hey, CMC 

1858
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:14,440
is the number one pass catching 
option. 

1859
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,680
Then it's Jalon Jennings and 
then. 

1860
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:20,480
Ricky Pearsall is here. 
Tertiary NFL player. 

1861
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:23,200
Yep, Yep. 
And and that's without, you 

1862
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:26,360
know, 2 better players competing
for target. 

1863
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:30,000
So Ricky Pearsall down the 
stretch, you're, you're like, if

1864
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,280
you're in a league where you 
could trade Ricky Pearsall now, 

1865
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,840
get rid of them because you will
not want to have them on your 

1866
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:38,040
team come fantasy playoffs. 
You know, in a, in a league 

1867
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,440
where you're having to choose 
start set, you will never be 

1868
01:52:40,440 --> 01:52:44,280
able to start Ricky Pearsall 
when it's like week 15/16/17 

1869
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,480
without some injury to these 
other guys. 

1870
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:51,720
Ted Mcmillan's awesome, by the 
way, I'm praying for an Andy 

1871
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,480
Dalton start. 
Give me Andy Dalton so my Ted 

1872
01:52:54,480 --> 01:52:57,800
McMillan shares can flourish. 
All right, that's all for this 

1873
01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:58,520
chart. 
Yeah. 

1874
01:52:59,920 --> 01:53:03,880
And so moving on to where these 
aren't the backups, what they're

1875
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:08,040
the, no, sorry, not the backups.
They're not the, they're not the

1876
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:13,440
the 85% plus route run 
receivers. 

1877
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:15,040
They're not the part timers 
either. 

1878
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:19,200
They're kind of in between where
they're like clear starters, but

1879
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,720
not not kind of full every down 
route guys. 

1880
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,880
I know you you were pretty 
pleased. 

1881
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:31,880
I have a bit of Wandell as well.
Gretsch was pretty pleased that 

1882
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:36,360
we got we got some air yards. 
We finally saw the the college 

1883
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:41,680
air yard earning Wandelle 
materialize in the NFL and he 

1884
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:45,560
had a he had a great week and 
I'm off strong opportunity. 

1885
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,280
Yeah, you, you love to see the 
thesis play out there. 

1886
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:54,280
He, I mean, Gretch talked about 
him in Stealing signals this 

1887
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:58,640
week and described him along the
lines of like, he's probably a 

1888
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:01,040
guy that's just like a really 
good floor play that will 

1889
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:03,080
occasionally have these spikes 
and you love to see it. 

1890
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:09,200
I mean, I for best ball 
purposes, Wandale is like AI 

1891
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:13,240
calling him a league winner is 
too much, but he is like league 

1892
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,880
winner adjacent. 
He's an advanced rate monster 

1893
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:19,800
like Wandale. 
If you have a team with Wandale 

1894
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:25,680
on it, if this continues, which 
I I expect the trend to continue

1895
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,480
or he's able to earn targets and
they're not all confined to the 

1896
01:54:28,480 --> 01:54:31,360
short area stuff that he was 
confined to last year when he 

1897
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:36,760
had 140 targets. 
He he's going to be a tough out 

1898
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:40,040
If you're going against Wandale 
teams in your pods, you're like,

1899
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,120
ah, damn, someone else has 
Wandale here. 

1900
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:43,760
Like it's going to be harder for
me to advance. 

1901
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,720
Like the price on him was just 
so, so cheap for what you're 

1902
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:49,280
getting. 
And I, you can say the same 

1903
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:52,200
thing about Keenan Allen. 
Keenan Allen's one that I, I was

1904
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:58,040
totally out on and wrong on. 
You know, I think I probably 

1905
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,160
just assigned, I, we talked 
about this last week, so we 

1906
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:03,480
don't need to rehash it again. 
But I think I just assigned too 

1907
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,080
high of a chance that he was 
totally washed and didn't 

1908
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,680
attribute enough of that to the 
Bears and Caleb Williams 

1909
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:12,320
thinking last year. 
But yeah, we're. 

1910
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,120
Getting late career king of the 
island, aging gracefully. 

1911
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:20,720
Yeah, where he's not an every 
route guy by any means, but when

1912
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:23,240
he is that their boy, do they 
look wrong to him? 

1913
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:26,120
He must get open a lot. 
He, he's just an awesome guy to 

1914
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,840
have on your baseball teams. 
You know, the I, the spikes 

1915
01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:32,240
probably won't be quite as high,
but like, he's good, good to 

1916
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:35,520
score a touchdown and good to 
get, you know, 5-6 catches. 

1917
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:38,400
And so when you get those 
touchdown weeks, it's just going

1918
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,600
to be enough where you're like, 
Yep, getting Keenan Allen the 

1919
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:44,880
14th looks really, really good. 
So, yeah, capitulating on Keenan

1920
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:50,520
Allen and then kind of this this
triumvirate of like late round 

1921
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:53,920
wide receivers that look like 
they're not quite good enough to

1922
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:58,240
be league winners, but they are 
they're advance rate monsters is

1923
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:00,080
what I'm going to call them, is 
Troy Franklin. 

1924
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:03,880
I mean, now Troy Franklin, I 
have less confidence in Wandale 

1925
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:05,920
and Keenan. 
I'm ready to like, I'll write 

1926
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:08,880
that in ink for this season. 
Like the story of how the season

1927
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:12,480
goes for them, barring injury or
something terrible is those guys

1928
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,360
are going to propel teams to 
weigh above average advance 

1929
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,400
rates just because how bad they 
were priced. 

1930
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:23,240
Troy Franklin, we only get the, 
we just get this one sample for 

1931
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:27,120
this week of like he is the 
primary receiver, right? 

1932
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:28,880
They built the plane out of Troy
Franklin. 

1933
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:31,680
It's Troy Franklin. 
The plane he was the he was like

1934
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:35,000
their top. 
Of all their skill position 

1935
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:36,680
players, he got the most snaps 
on the week. 

1936
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:39,760
And it's Troy Franklin, Short, 
intermediate and deep. 

1937
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,640
It's Troy Franklin in all 
quadrants of the field. 

1938
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:48,240
You know, they, they absolutely 
built the plane around Troy 

1939
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,560
Franklin. 
Like he got the most routes, 

1940
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:56,640
like they used them. 
They used them in the slot, yes,

1941
01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:02,320
but then a bunch of wide too. 
So in and 12 personnel. 

1942
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,000
He must have still been on the 
field as I guess definitely what

1943
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:10,000
90% route rate and he got them 
by far the most targets. 

1944
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:15,800
He rewarded the team on those 
targets by by turning them into 

1945
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:19,640
yardage and and he scored as 
well, right? 

1946
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:26,080
Yes, he did. 
So it's kind of like a you've 

1947
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:30,680
got that one piece in the back 
of your mind is is this did Sean

1948
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,960
Payton just decide, hey, this 
this defense has this weakness 

1949
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:37,760
that Troy Franklin is going to 
exploit this week, but then next

1950
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,560
week it's back to the court and 
Sutton show you've got that 

1951
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:44,880
little bit is is is it was this 
just a temporary thing for him? 

1952
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:52,240
But the fact that he, like they,
they built the plane on them and

1953
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:54,520
it worked. 
And I, I guess at least 

1954
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:59,160
offensively is, is pretty strong
in, in his favor. 

1955
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:02,240
Like I, I feel pretty good about
it. 

1956
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:06,200
But there is still that. 
Like you never know. 

1957
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:09,360
Yeah, there's more of a chance 
that this was a mirage than 

1958
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:11,320
something real. 
You're you're hoping to see it 

1959
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:16,120
again next week. 
The the last guy that kind of 

1960
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:19,720
fell into this archetype as far 
as like where he was priced in 

1961
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:24,480
basketball drafts that doesn't 
look to be as strong of an 

1962
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:26,240
advance rate monsters these 
other guys. 

1963
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:28,720
But it's still someone I'm 
really happy to see on my teams 

1964
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:33,160
is Romeo Dobbs, who, as you 
know, the Packers deal with the 

1965
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:36,520
Jaden Reed injury. 
We see the targets condense 

1966
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:38,840
more. 
You know Dobbs is is running 

1967
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:40,520
lots of routes. 
He's out there. 

1968
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,600
He he's, you know, someone 
you're happy to have right now. 

1969
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:48,800
Not really going to be startable
in a a managed format, you know,

1970
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:51,560
more than likely, but he's 
someone where you're pretty 

1971
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:53,480
happy to have him on your best 
ball rosters. 

1972
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:57,640
We kind of had, you know, the 
Sidekick had like its favorite 

1973
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:01,760
late round receivers and it 
almost did become a bit where 

1974
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:04,480
it's like collecting the 
Infinity stones of these late 

1975
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:08,600
mispriced receivers or it really
wanted to smash, you know, 

1976
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:13,160
Lawndale and Romeo Dobbs and Pop
Douglas. 

1977
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:18,800
And so see, Lawndale and Dobbs 
seem pretty good and it's at the

1978
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:20,880
cost of having Pop Douglas on 
your team. 

1979
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,480
So, you know, yeah, I think, I 
think with. 

1980
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:27,680
Dobbs, you've gotten kind of 
confirmation that the floor is 

1981
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:32,960
there, like you've gotten a 
floor of routes, you've got some

1982
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,240
ceiling that is in that he can 
score touchdowns. 

1983
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:42,120
I I like you're saying, I do 
feel less encouraged by him than

1984
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,480
the other guys. 
And even with the Jayden Reid 

1985
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:49,360
injury, I think that the primary
beneficiary of the Jayden Reid 

1986
01:59:49,360 --> 01:59:53,000
injury is probably Wicks, who 
actually got more targets than 

1987
01:59:53,000 --> 02:00:01,960
Dobbs and yeah, last week. 
And but like Wicks, needed that 

1988
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:05,040
injury. 
January just probably going to 

1989
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:08,640
come back and and and he'll be 
back on the bench and, and and 

1990
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:12,800
most snaps again. 
And but Dobbs that you, you, you

1991
02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:16,040
love to see the touchdown. 
You love to see the the targets 

1992
02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:20,000
you you've got a nice kind of 
floor play there as the ballast,

1993
02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:24,520
as a ballast for the end of your
roster on the on on in 

1994
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,240
basketball. 
Yeah, I think an interesting 

1995
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:30,240
note here is the two Bills guys 
that show up, you get Keon 

1996
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:34,640
Coleman and Joshua Palmer where 
Keon Coleman higher route share 

1997
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:37,360
than Palmer, but they have 
similar weighted targets for 

1998
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,200
route run. 
The variance so far to scoring 

1999
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:43,280
fantasy points has gone Keon's 
way with the big weak one. 

2000
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:48,400
But I I think this really 
illustrates why like the Josh 

2001
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:52,480
Palmer as a Keon Coleman 
arbitrage was a pretty solid 

2002
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:55,960
strategy. 
It's just the Bills are going to

2003
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,000
spread it around and no one guy 
is going to going to get it 

2004
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:01,840
every week. 
I mean, you were just. 

2005
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:05,840
Crazy. 
So Keon Coleman went from a 94% 

2006
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:12,480
route rate guy in week 1 and 
then Week 2 he's at 63% and 

2007
02:01:12,520 --> 02:01:16,640
actually Josh Palmer ran more 
routes in in Week 2. 

2008
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:20,840
I do wonder how much of that was
like the game is over for a long

2009
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:22,920
stretch. 
That definitely could be part of

2010
02:01:22,920 --> 02:01:26,920
it. 
I think in general though, my 

2011
02:01:26,920 --> 02:01:30,760
take away is you were paying way
too much of A premium for the 

2012
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:36,480
Keyon Coleman what if talent 
scenario over Josh Palmer, given

2013
02:01:36,480 --> 02:01:38,840
that this is what we've seen 
through two weeks. 

2014
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:41,720
I think there's something to 
what you're saying, though, like

2015
02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:45,440
I'd expect Keyon Coleman 
probably to have the stronger 

2016
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:49,120
route share to Palmer as we 
progress through the season, but

2017
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:52,640
I just don't think that it's 
going to be enough to justify 

2018
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:55,480
the price. 
But it's it's interesting. 

2019
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:58,840
Like I'm not, I don't want to 
like bury Key on Coleman right 

2020
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:01,760
now and say, oh, what we saw in 
Week 1 is just a mirage. 

2021
02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:04,440
The breakout's not happening. 
Like he very well still could 

2022
02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:07,120
break out and that's why you 
were paying the premium. 

2023
02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:10,280
I just think that the premium 
was probably a little steep 

2024
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:13,160
given the probability of the 
breakout and relative to what 

2025
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:14,840
you can get later in that same 
offense. 

2026
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:17,640
So that's that's all. 
Yeah, it. 

2027
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:19,120
Makes sense. 
Makes sense? 

2028
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:24,560
Last guy I wanted to hit on here
real quick is I mean and Khalil 

2029
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,560
shakur we also see way lower 
weighted targets for outrun. 

2030
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:31,920
Would not shock me at all to see
the other two guys that we just 

2031
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:35,120
talked about move towards Shakur
and Shakur to move towards them 

2032
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:37,840
and they all kind of converge 
near the middle because I think 

2033
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:40,360
Shakur is probably the most 
talented of the three, but he's 

2034
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:43,200
still recovering from that high 
ankle sprain and we've seen that

2035
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:48,160
SAP players, you know, athletic 
ability for you know, weeks or 

2036
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:50,320
months at a time. 
So it wouldn't surprise me if 

2037
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:53,160
Shakur is a bit of a slow 
starter this season. 

2038
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:57,080
You know, by October, November, 
we see him more more taking over

2039
02:02:57,080 --> 02:02:59,600
here. 
But the guy I did really want to

2040
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:02,080
mention briefly here is Alec 
Aymanor. 

2041
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:07,400
Very interesting. 
You know, he's basically he's 

2042
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:09,600
the way that I would want to bet
on Cam ward. 

2043
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:12,360
I don't really want to bet on 
Cam Ward directly. 

2044
02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:16,560
But if I think we literally said
this exactly last week, but we 

2045
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:19,120
just get another week of data 
kind of confirming that where 

2046
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:22,680
Diomanor is the one that's 
that's exciting if it goes well,

2047
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:25,240
right? 
Yeah, yeah. 

2048
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:32,600
Again, I'm a little perplexed. 
Next time you went from 82% 

2049
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:40,520
routes and 1 to 68% in Week 2. 
Honestly very perplexed by that.

2050
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:48,040
You also see Gunner Helms routes
tick up from 18% to 34%. 

2051
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:51,800
So maybe that was game game plan
specific. 

2052
02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:55,240
So you probably have a little 
bit of volatility in terms of 

2053
02:03:55,640 --> 02:04:01,680
Iron Manure's snap rate as, as 
it, it looks like he's kind of a

2054
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:05,320
primary slot guy. 
And let me let me confirm that. 

2055
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:11,680
But I, I agree with you that 
like even like let's take the 

2056
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,240
let's take the routes and the 
snaps aside, he's still earning 

2057
02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:18,880
targets at a good rate. 
He's still producing with them. 

2058
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:24,440
Obviously, what's his name? 
Ward is showing strong trust in 

2059
02:04:24,440 --> 02:04:27,080
him by like, being willing to 
throw the ball, like all the way

2060
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:31,400
across the field and risk that 
football to get to get him a 

2061
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:34,800
touchdown. 
Yeah, Ironman or is basically 

2062
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:37,640
never playing in the slot. 
He only had two slot snaps last 

2063
02:04:37,640 --> 02:04:41,320
week, 46 out wide. 
So it's all it's all X receiver 

2064
02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:48,240
stuff for him. 
OK, that's so then why I'm, I'm,

2065
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:51,520
I was, I was kind of coming up 
with that as an explanation for 

2066
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:55,360
why. 
Who else played more? 

2067
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:58,200
So Tyler Lockett, his snaps went
down. 

2068
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:03,320
Van Jefferson, he played more, 
yeah. 

2069
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:07,440
So did he lose snaps to Van 
Jefferson? 

2070
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:11,200
Looks like let's see DK played 
more. 

2071
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:15,360
DK played mostly in the slot, 
but he did also play additional 

2072
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:27,400
snaps out wide as well. 
Yeah, OK. 

2073
02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:31,640
It's just it's. 
You can see why I'm a little bit

2074
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:32,200
like. 
Yeah. 

2075
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:35,600
No, no, no Will. 
Jackson played more, DK played 

2076
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:37,000
more. 
Why do they why do they take 

2077
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:38,760
this guy off? 
Was there an injury? 

2078
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:42,960
Anyway, I guess right for now 
there's a little bit of 

2079
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:46,560
volatility in his in his week to
week. 

2080
02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:49,760
It's not great, but the targets 
they're being there and him 

2081
02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:53,160
earning targets, encouraging him
producing with those targets is 

2082
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:57,240
encouraging. 
Hopefully he he he spends more 

2083
02:05:57,240 --> 02:06:02,400
weeks as the 80% guy and like 
you're saying, have another week

2084
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:06,960
of it of of the target airing is
great to see. 

2085
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:10,240
Yeah, we'll, we'll definitely 
monitor the the situation with 

2086
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:13,840
IM and ore going forward here. 
But let's move on to the final 

2087
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,800
chart of the evening. 
We did just Crest the two hour 

2088
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:19,160
mark. 
So it's getting to be that kind 

2089
02:06:19,160 --> 02:06:23,440
of time. 
A couple guys here that I I'm 

2090
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:25,600
just going to shout out is like,
hey, don't worry about them. 

2091
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:27,720
Like it's not going to be a 
thing. 

2092
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:31,040
Most likely Tyler Wallace, don't
worry about it. 

2093
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:34,200
Just like a one off touchdown. 
He's not going to be someone 

2094
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:36,640
you're ever going to like have 
to pick up and start or anything

2095
02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:40,200
like that. 
Tori Horton. 

2096
02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:44,640
So like seems interesting, but I
got to be honest, I'm like, I'm 

2097
02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:47,920
worried with the overall passing
volume from Seattle that he's 

2098
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:50,280
just probably not going to be 
thing. 

2099
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:53,960
Maybe like in a deep league you 
can go ahead and stash him, but 

2100
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:57,480
you know, just just because he 
looks really good and weighted 

2101
02:06:57,480 --> 02:07:00,160
targets for route run and 
fantasy points per game on this 

2102
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:01,840
chart relative to these other 
guys. 

2103
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:05,360
Don't don't like get out of your
skis on Tori Horton. 

2104
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:09,640
The the one, the other one 
that's like a little bit of a 

2105
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:13,800
bummer is Jayden Higgins. 
And I don't, I don't even think 

2106
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:16,880
Jaylen Knoll makes this chart, 
but man, they're using Jaylen 

2107
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:21,120
Knoll is a punt returner, is a 
great punt return, almost breaks

2108
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:25,400
one for a touchdown. 
And they just they refuse to let

2109
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:28,400
this guy actually play receiver,
which is frustrating. 

2110
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:30,640
You know, they're playing Xavier
Hutchinson over him, they're 

2111
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:34,400
playing Justin Watson. 
Like not, not the kind of stuff 

2112
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:37,760
that you want to see. 
But yeah, Jaden Higgins, Jalen 

2113
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:42,360
Knoll both look like it's going 
to be that classic rookie 

2114
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:45,520
timeline where it probably takes
a really long time for him. 

2115
02:07:45,680 --> 02:07:49,880
Yeah, well, it's like, it's like
they're already rotational and 

2116
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:53,680
now Christian Kirk's comes back 
so that they're even more 

2117
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,200
rotational. 
You you leave the light on them 

2118
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:58,400
because of the the Longview and 
the talents. 

2119
02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:02,720
But like, if, if you're holding 
these guys like, you're going to

2120
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:06,000
have to hold them for a while. 
Yeah, do you, do you cut Jayden 

2121
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:16,400
Higgins in a like in a FFPC? 
And I, I I don't it depends on 

2122
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:19,080
what's there right? 
Like do I? 

2123
02:08:19,120 --> 02:08:21,040
Do I? 
Probably depends on roster. 

2124
02:08:21,360 --> 02:08:22,760
Yeah. 
It depends on how good your 

2125
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:26,000
receivers are, right? 
If, if, if I can get iron 

2126
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,280
manure, I I put Higgins for iron
manure and, and you're right, 

2127
02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:32,080
you could have a bunch of other 
bombs that you you put first. 

2128
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:36,600
Well, so like hypothetically say
that someone had a roster that 

2129
02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:40,520
was Malik Neighbors, Nico 
Collins, Tet Zayflowers, George 

2130
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:42,920
Pickens, Luther Burden, Jayden 
Higgins. 

2131
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:47,840
You cutting Higgins then? 
No, and and no, you don't. 

2132
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:52,080
You hold on to them. 
OK, but like it, like it. 

2133
02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:54,800
Like I said, it depends on on 
what you can get. 

2134
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:58,840
Like you're not cutting Jayden 
Higgins from Malik Washington. 

2135
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:03,720
No, no, all the media is a Keyus
because they're playing right 

2136
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:07,400
now, right. 
And it's like if you can get 

2137
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:11,120
like a yeah, I'm minor if he's 
there or if, let's say Troy 

2138
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:15,400
Franklin is there and you you 
you definitely make that 

2139
02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:17,160
upgrade. 
You don't let Jaden Higgins hold

2140
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:20,680
you back from them. 
But you're you're not cutting 

2141
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:23,360
him for some losers. 
Yeah, but he he's cut. 

2142
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,960
He is nevertheless cuttable is 
is what I would say. 

2143
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:32,400
OK, so we hit on you hit on 
another guy there with Alamide 

2144
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:36,600
Zacchaeus or he's he's kind of 
just he's keeping the spot warm 

2145
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:40,560
for Luther Burden right here 
where it it also sounded like 

2146
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:44,760
from Ben Johnson that they might
want Burden to take snaps away 

2147
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:48,440
from DJ Moore, which seems crazy
to me. 

2148
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:50,680
I don't know that that's how 
that actually shakes out in real

2149
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:54,280
life, but. 
Well, DJ Murr is the X right 

2150
02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:57,080
now, so are they going to play 
Luter Burden in the X? 

2151
02:09:57,160 --> 02:09:59,880
Like, I don't know that it was 
confusing to me, but that's 

2152
02:09:59,880 --> 02:10:01,400
what. 
Right. 

2153
02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:04,800
That's the invitation of like, 
yeah, yeah. 

2154
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:06,360
We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll see 
why. 

2155
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:07,720
We'll, we'll have to watch 
there. 

2156
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:10,320
Yeah. 
My, what I would anticipate is 

2157
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:13,560
that Olamide Zacchaeus is the 
one that begins losing snaps to 

2158
02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:16,200
burden. 
But you know, we'll have to see 

2159
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:19,720
there. 
The other guy that I wanted to 

2160
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:22,480
talk about on here, we talked 
about Wix already being a big 

2161
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:24,200
beneficiary. 
Yeah. 

2162
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:29,440
Matthew Golden, man. 
Matthew Golden kind of seems to 

2163
02:10:29,440 --> 02:10:33,320
be in the Christian Watson role 
where he's not earning a ton of 

2164
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:34,960
targets. 
He's just earning like these 

2165
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:37,960
deep shots now. 
The perception, yeah, the 

2166
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:42,360
perception could totally have 
flipped on him because there's 

2167
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:45,400
two big missed plays for him in 
this last game. 

2168
02:10:46,080 --> 02:10:49,360
One would have been like a 93 
yard touchdown or something 

2169
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:51,200
crazy. 
If he actually gets him, he's 

2170
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:53,840
open. 
Jordan Love just barely misses 

2171
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:58,240
him. 
So I don't want to, I don't want

2172
02:10:58,240 --> 02:11:03,000
to say like, oh, it's looking 
real bad for Matthew Golden, but

2173
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:05,440
I I don't think the role is what
you paid. 

2174
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:08,600
For yeah, I, I mean, you, you 
weren't paying for the MVS role.

2175
02:11:09,160 --> 02:11:13,560
No, no, but there's also, 
there's room for the upside here

2176
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:16,640
with Reed, you know, Yeah, 
leaving more room for for 

2177
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:19,240
someone to emerge and and take 
more work. 

2178
02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:24,520
So he's not dead, but he's also.
He's it's not a great start. 

2179
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:30,360
Yeah, Travis Hunter also in the 
Not dead, but it's disappointing

2180
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:32,560
right now. 
Now Hunter's been earning a lot 

2181
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:34,040
of volume. 
He's got a lot of targets 

2182
02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:37,440
through two weeks. 
Just all this, you know, most of

2183
02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:40,480
it rinky dink and then some of 
the deeper stuff that he had 

2184
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:44,400
just missed. 
There's different universes 

2185
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:47,320
where he catches that that deep 
touchdown pass. 

2186
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:52,880
And the perception is better. 
It's still like what you're what

2187
02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:57,120
you're looking at is a Prairie 
yards like high variance usage 

2188
02:11:57,560 --> 02:12:01,040
where like some weeks on on the 
current usage, some weeks he's 

2189
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:04,600
going to score 15 and then some 
weeks he's going to score 4. 

2190
02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:09,120
The other hard part is he he got
more snaps on defense last week 

2191
02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:11,840
and it was at the expense of his
snaps on offense. 

2192
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:15,040
It wasn't the, IT wasn't the 
dream scenario of. 

2193
02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:17,880
Oh, you're talking like, are we 
talking about Travis Hunter now?

2194
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:19,760
Sorry, yeah, I'm on the hunter 
now. 

2195
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:23,320
Sorry, I, I, I, I, yeah, that 
was pretty tough. 

2196
02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:27,760
And that was pretty tough where 
it's like, like you may have 

2197
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:31,560
said, it's the opposite of like 
he's getting screens and stuff. 

2198
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:35,000
It's like that's, that's 
certainly not what you drafted 

2199
02:12:35,000 --> 02:12:37,720
Travis Hunter for. 
So certainly very, very 

2200
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:41,520
concerned with Travis Hunter. 
It's it's kind of weird the way 

2201
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:44,280
that they're using them. 
Like why did you use that? 

2202
02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:48,880
Why did you spend all that draft
capital if you're going to use 

2203
02:12:48,880 --> 02:13:00,520
them like a weird kind of like, 
I forgot the term I'm looking 

2204
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:04,840
for, but kind of like damn short
rinky dink stuff. 

2205
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:07,680
Yeah, Gadget he yeah. 
He's gadget, Yeah, Why? 

2206
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:10,960
Why he's why did he use all that
draft capital for a gadget play 

2207
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:13,760
and then and not very good 
cornerback too? 

2208
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:18,880
So right now he's got ten of his
ten of his 13 targets are either

2209
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:20,640
short or behind the line of 
scrimmage. 

2210
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:23,760
He's got three that are medium. 
And then he had the 1 deep ball 

2211
02:13:24,640 --> 02:13:26,880
that could have could have 
connected and been a touchdown 

2212
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:32,480
does not I? 
They just need to put Chain 

2213
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:36,000
Woldron off from the they they 
need to take the PlayStation 

2214
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:38,640
controller out of his hands. 
Yeah, that's my life. 

2215
02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:43,960
The it's also the the deeper 
stuff seems like it might be 

2216
02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:48,280
getting force to him because on 
his he has four targets that are

2217
02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:51,600
either medium, so 10 to 19 yards
down the field or deep. 

2218
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:53,800
He's got one that's 20 yards 
down the field. 

2219
02:13:54,360 --> 02:13:58,040
Of those 4 targets, 2 of them 
have turned into interceptions. 

2220
02:13:59,120 --> 02:14:02,120
So I don't know, man. 
It's. 

2221
02:14:02,360 --> 02:14:05,640
Well, we saw that one of them 
was like he was open, but the 

2222
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:08,240
IT. 
Was a vibe pro and the major 

2223
02:14:08,240 --> 02:14:13,520
under throw Yep. 
So there's the vibes aren't 

2224
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:18,000
fantastic and you're now you're 
actually the worry that we 

2225
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:20,840
thought we thought that we 
didn't need to be worried about 

2226
02:14:20,840 --> 02:14:22,360
the usage. 
We thought, oh, we're getting 

2227
02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:25,360
the dream deployment. 
He's gonna be running 80% of the

2228
02:14:25,360 --> 02:14:27,840
route. 
It's like, yeah, maybe not 

2229
02:14:27,840 --> 02:14:31,160
actually maybe we do need to be 
worried about the deployment and

2230
02:14:31,160 --> 02:14:35,560
the usage. 
So I think the take away for me 

2231
02:14:35,560 --> 02:14:40,240
on Travis Hunter more is like, 
not that we're ever really gonna

2232
02:14:40,240 --> 02:14:43,240
have to handle a situation like 
this again, but just in general,

2233
02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:50,160
I want to keep situations like 
this really ambiguous in in my 

2234
02:14:50,160 --> 02:14:53,000
mind when I'm, you know, when 
we're projecting stuff like this

2235
02:14:53,000 --> 02:14:56,040
out for for future seasons And 
and obviously we're not going to

2236
02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:58,040
have a two way player that we're
doing right. 

2237
02:14:58,480 --> 02:15:01,920
But just like learning the 
lesson of like, hey, even when 

2238
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:05,360
even when you're getting the 
news that makes you feel more 

2239
02:15:05,360 --> 02:15:08,400
bullish about the guy, like, oh,
they said it's going to be 80% 

2240
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:10,360
on offense. 
It's going to be exactly what we

2241
02:15:10,360 --> 02:15:13,520
want. 
Like just remembering that like 

2242
02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:17,000
coaches lie and and also they 
might not even be trying to lie.

2243
02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:21,800
Like stuff just changes. 
And so just being comfortable 

2244
02:15:21,800 --> 02:15:25,360
applying a lot more ambiguity 
and uncertainty to situations 

2245
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:28,480
like this, I think is good from 
like a, hey, how do we? 

2246
02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:31,720
You were certainly getting the 
discount for the ambiguity. 

2247
02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:34,280
I'm not. 
I'm not sure I would play it all

2248
02:15:34,280 --> 02:15:40,600
that differently to how I did. 
I think his, I think the price 

2249
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:45,080
with the ambiguity properly 
factored in was probably closer 

2250
02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:48,600
to like a, you know, a sixth 
round rather than like he was 

2251
02:15:48,600 --> 02:15:51,680
going like in the in the 4th and
the 5th for a lot of it on 

2252
02:15:51,680 --> 02:15:56,600
underdog and. 
Yeah, I guess I'm an FFPC 

2253
02:15:56,600 --> 02:15:58,280
perspective. 
Where? 

2254
02:15:58,280 --> 02:16:01,280
Yeah, FFPC, he was going later 
that the price was a lot more 

2255
02:16:01,280 --> 02:16:05,320
palatable to me given the tight 
end premium format where you 

2256
02:16:05,320 --> 02:16:07,720
know, the the ADP is the wide 
receiver should get pushed down 

2257
02:16:07,720 --> 02:16:09,800
just a smidge because you're 
having more tight ends go 

2258
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:11,560
earlier. 
And then also you've got the 

2259
02:16:11,560 --> 02:16:14,000
running back heavy format there 
where people just draft more 

2260
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:17,200
running backs. 
He's probably like a early 7th 

2261
02:16:17,320 --> 02:16:21,320
is like the fair, fair price, 
maybe mid 7th like if you're 

2262
02:16:21,320 --> 02:16:23,520
properly pricing the risk and 
the ambiguity. 

2263
02:16:23,720 --> 02:16:25,960
But on underdog, the price 
seemed a little crazy and he 

2264
02:16:25,960 --> 02:16:29,040
actually was more expensive on 
DraftKings, believe it or not. 

2265
02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:32,879
So it's like, I think the market
just got it a little wrong in 

2266
02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:35,719
that they did a poor job 
assessing the risk there. 

2267
02:16:35,719 --> 02:16:38,920
So that's one where I just 
wanted to like file that a way 

2268
02:16:38,920 --> 02:16:42,959
as like a, a broader lessons for
future and and for going 

2269
02:16:42,959 --> 02:16:45,440
forward. 
It's like, don't panic. 

2270
02:16:45,559 --> 02:16:47,639
He's getting lots. 
He's got a lot of targets 

2271
02:16:47,639 --> 02:16:50,520
through two weeks. 
You know, like it. 

2272
02:16:50,639 --> 02:16:53,360
It could definitely break his 
way still, but I. 

2273
02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:57,320
Mean it does break his way. 
To me the price is still like 

2274
02:16:57,799 --> 02:17:00,840
you're getting like at least a 
full round to round and a half 

2275
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:05,360
discount on like TET and maybe 
more of a discount. 

2276
02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:09,240
So if if it hits in the way that
you want it to, like it still 

2277
02:17:09,240 --> 02:17:12,080
hits pretty hard at the price 
you got I think. 

2278
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:19,400
Yeah, yeah, the, I mean, the 
whole Jags offense just seems a 

2279
02:17:19,400 --> 02:17:22,280
little dysfunctional right now, 
at least in the passing game. 

2280
02:17:22,280 --> 02:17:26,320
So maybe they get that figured 
out and and we're not even 

2281
02:17:26,320 --> 02:17:28,639
sweating Travis Hunter in the 
coming weeks, but. 

2282
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:35,559
It's been disappointing so far. 
Yeah, those were all the guys I 

2283
02:17:35,559 --> 02:17:37,600
wanted to talk about. 
Was there anyone else that you 

2284
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:39,719
had you wanted to mention before
we finish up here? 

2285
02:17:40,200 --> 02:17:45,799
No, no, I think we're good. 
All right, well, I, I guess 

2286
02:17:45,799 --> 02:17:50,240
that's Week 2 in the books. 
Another, another showdown. 

2287
02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:54,200
We'll, we'll be back here next 
Tuesday for Week 3. 

2288
02:17:54,920 --> 02:17:56,920
Yeah, Thanks for thanks for 
joining us, everyone. 

2289
02:17:56,920 --> 02:18:00,680
Bye bye.
