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Well, well, well. 
Our first afternoon edition of 

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Ship Chasing. 
Here we go. 

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I'm Pete Oversight. 
We got Ben Gretch, hopefully Pat

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Curain rolling by here. 
We're going to talk about some 

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stuff all of us have been 
working on. 

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Gretch has been deep in the lab 
on the rookie running backs. 

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Pat is writing about Central 
American trees. 

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And I've been making videos 
about how to reverse engineer 

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your draft and digging into the 
week 16 verse 17 debates that 

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are bubbling up in our best 
ball, Best ball corner of the 

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woods. 
This is ship chasing and 

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naturally we will do a draft 
today. 

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Let's get to it, Pat Fryer 
helmos. 

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This is why This is why I'm hot.
Anita Handjob. 

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Fix your sight. 
Jamar Alpha play Chase. 

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You can't handle the heat. 
It looks like we're finally at 

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this place. 
You're right. 

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All right. 
He made it afternoon. 

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He made it. 
Professional. 

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I know There's a cold open it. 
It buys me another 30 seconds. 

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I can stream with John, talk 
about his poker poker days. 

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Man, I I I shouldn't have 
revealed that you weren't here 

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yet, because then it would have 
been a magic trick. 

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You would have just showed up 
and people would have thought 

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you've been hanging out for 30 
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Show. 
No. 

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I was literally streaming with 
Jon on Badge Press so they would

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have known exactly where I was, 
but. 

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This is, this is how Jon gets me
back because I do off and on the

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clock with them on Wednesdays 
after swole cast and sometimes 

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will run long there 'cause you 
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to land the plane and so I push 
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So this is how Jon finally got 
me back for not starting right 

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on time. 
So Gretch is fresh off of 

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playing some golf. 
Pat has been podcasting. 

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I've been podcasting. 
But yeah, we've all been working

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on various pieces of fantasy 
research. 

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Gretch, you had a a big post on 
stealing signals. 

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Was that yesterday about all of 
the rookie running backs? 

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Yep. 
Yeah, I I finally sent that out 

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yesterday. 
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What about the Michael Pennix 
contract, which I sent a a big 

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tweet about as well, some other 
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But yeah, the rookie running 
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I think it's sort of 
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going to be a group to really 
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I've talked a little bit on the 
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the the rookie wide receivers 
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up into the middle rounds. 
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Aidy Mitchell we all really 
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as high as the market will be on
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some of those guys that are the 
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I think that group is really 
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But I think what's happened 
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obviously to be on rookies. 
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but this is a running back class
that people aren't super excited

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about. 
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talents. 
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are fine, but they're solid and 
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And I think it kind of got a 
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there's it's deep. 
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landing spots from the draft. 
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really running back heavy even 
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teams wait till day three to hit
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lot of running backs went off 
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these guys. 
Landon's spots were like like a 

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band of candle. 
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Lance behind Breece Hall you 
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And then late in the summer they
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like he can't even draft a band 
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guy. 
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This year, I don't think. 
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really got emphasized enough is 
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I mean, you have Braylon Allen 
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And then they took Isaiah Davis 
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So Jets is a good example of one
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I didn't like the Will Shipley 
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'cause he's a great pass 
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They probably aren't going to 
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You get those in every class, 
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couple this year. 
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like, yeah, he's the clear #2. 
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profile. 
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guys that we should be in on and
it just seems like in All in all

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formats and the draft capitals 
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It's great to get them in the 
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best ball. 
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the double digit rounds. 
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we've been wanting to build. 
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to get rookie upside. 
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last 4-5 years, there's been a 
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gotten a lot of work in in their
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happened more than we probably 
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If you go dig back to Isaiah 
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there there's there's a number 
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a it's a it's a key this year. 
It's a big thing to hammer. 

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Yeah. 
And I'm I, Pat, I'm curious your

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thoughts because you've been way
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of with these prospect profiles 
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kind of how you think about 
their chances to be fantasy 

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superstars. 
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trend, I do think there's this 
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and I'm going to apply that 
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the picks. 
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that if this class had Bichon 
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early, I think someone like 
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rounds higher in draft being 
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get Gibbs and Bichon got to get 
my stabs of this good running 

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back class. 
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happens where you see like 
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Biggie, he's the perfect one. 
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talent that got steamed up. 
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rookie enthusiasm and this was 
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Etienne, it was like really 
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So I do wonder if that macro 
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public sentiment. 
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Although last year was funny 
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viewed as a bad running back 
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going to get this running back 
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And so I think part of it is 
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excited about the clear #2 
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don't, we don't know the profile
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Bigsby, Roshan like you know we 
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but you know Devon 18 was also 
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you're getting him. 
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the the 10th round and you know 
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So I think generally this is a 
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it is, it's a bad running back 
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But Benson and Brooks are pretty
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I'm drafting both of them and 
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the landing spot was pretty 
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Braylon Allen's done. 
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Not maybe, maybe he kind of 
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like some OTA training camp hype
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Shipley feels maybe draftable, 
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Probably more of a a dynasty 
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Laubie ends up in a perfect 
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Ray Davis ends up in an awesome 
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Bucky Irving ends up in an 
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I have my issues with Irving as 
a prospect, but still way ahead 

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of ADP 'cause like he might be 
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Bay. 
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They don't have anything. 
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And it's kind of a a a Sorry 
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Tried out literally everyone 
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Is it like like we know they 
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And there's a talent deficiency 
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See, that's the way I ranked it 
in my post. 

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For anyone who who hasn't 
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post is I ranked it by like, how
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of the landing spot. 
Which is kind of a weird way to 

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do it. 
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haven't even mentioned Vidal, 
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one 'cause I think his landing 
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We know they're gonna run a lot.
Gus Edwards, we talked about 

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this I think last week. 
Gus Edwards, you know efficiency

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already kind of fell off a 
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JK Dobbins coming off an 
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You got all this. 
You know the stuff that could be

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very positive for him. 
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and there are there are concerns
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to what I thought about Kamani, 
Videl, Videl whatever his name 

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is before the draft. 
I'm like a lot more interested 

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after after landing there. 
Tyrone Tracy behind Singletary 

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is like. 
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awesome pick. 
I think he's kind of like the 

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Videl that people aren't even 
aren't even like drafting a ton 

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yet. 
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getting drafted like in every 
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have the hype that Videl does. 
I will say he has, yeah, he's 

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moved up about around. 
I want to say, 'cause I noticed,

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'cause I put out my video, I did
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the Deposit Kingdom channel. 
I took Tyrone Tracy and then 

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that just posted. 
I was looking at his ADP 

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compared to when I got him to 
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So he is starting to inch up, 
but still nowhere near like the 

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Dell and and Ray Davis. 
So look, I'll just, oh, go 

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ahead. 
Not as bad, as bad as a a 

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starter ahead. 
I mean Devin Singletary is 

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probably capable of just like 
holding it down all year but I 

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mean like the talent level that 
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pretty amazing how low that bar 
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here's the other thing about 
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I think and this new kickoff 
role like that's that that makes

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things more important like that 
you have that the right guy 

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active. 
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kick returning job he's active. 
If he's active and Devin 

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Singletares your your 
competition and like what it's 

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going to be Eric Gray is the is 
the other active back like he 

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could have a a role right away 
because he's he's secured an 

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active roster spot through the 
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And I think that's the thing 
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some of these guys. 
Vidal and and Tyrone Tracy, even

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though I have been clicking 
them, is just like knowing that 

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the dead roster spot thing and 
I've fallen prey to that. 

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Getting too fancy, taking the 
Iziabana Candas and not really 

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understanding that they could be
a zero and knowing that I will 

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feel a lot better about the 
depth charts in August. 

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But I think what's mitigated it 
is knowing that Tracy and Vidal 

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are such obvious picks that 
there are going to be risers. 

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And if I have those concerns now
I like I would rather get them 

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at the cheaper prices. 
So I'm like kind of like 

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offsetting that where it's like,
is the price now less risky than

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when they'll be 13th round picks
or 12th? 

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Round picks. 
So I think this is a really good

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point and this is the point that
I was trying to drive home, 

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which is this is more of a macro
really in the weeds with the 

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draft and with like NFL history 
and like being obsessed with 

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that kind of stuff. 
Take that. 

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I don't think we've ever had a 
running back class in day three 

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that I can remember. 
I didn't go dig through it all. 

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I did click through a couple of 
the past years and look, but 

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where there's enough guys, you 
can say this was a smash landing

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spot as we have this year. 
Like you just use the abandoned 

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Canada thing. 
We weren't calling it a smash 

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landing spot. 
We were like, that's a disaster.

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Like that's a really, really bad
one. 

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The ones that I threw out like 
the Pacheco one was was you know

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a little bit later in the 
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But we knew like nobody really 
liked CEH. 

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We knew there was like a a 
potential for somebody to take 

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that backfield over. 
The Alger one is the other comp 

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where like everyone was like 
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back but they didn't have Pierce
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pulled up and Roshan last year 
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They weren't zeros. 
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dead roster spots and and that's
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not quite as much Vidal who does
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of him. 
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you know, deferring to the 
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back in his backfield. 
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that you have on the roster 
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They've tried and have not 
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Blake Quorum got that same same 
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Trey Benson got that situation. 
Bucky Irving got that situation.

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the number two job and some of 
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able to compete for the number 
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season and and and also I'd say 
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like we're not sure about a 
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number two in Indianapolis, like
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and like it might not be and so 
I'm not like drafting him right 

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now. 
I'll drop the crap out of him if

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he's clearly the number 2 after 
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get that information. 
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where we don't know. 
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Getting a a Blake quorum. 
Getting a Bucky Irving a 

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Marshawn Lloyd like those dudes.
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this where like I'm pretty 
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role, or at least a role if 
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and it it, you know, if you need
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before, but now we actually lose
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2 because they draft Gorendo. 
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really like I just pulled up the
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Bruegler had about him. 
Ranked second in the Big 10 in 

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kick return yardage yardage in 
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touchdown return. 
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coverages with six special teams
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the line of scrimmage, but he 
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quickness, cuts, contact, 
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He can stay on the field on 
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He's a multi dimensional threat 
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special teamer which will 
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commanding an NFL roster spot. 
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want a dead roster spot and I 
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athleticism, he's very athletic 
pass catching ability, which is 

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the whole point of him. 
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weak, got weak starter ahead. 
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ceiling. 
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ceiling. 
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It's he's maybe more of a risk 
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overstating that the chat saying
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college and was used early in 
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They took him in the fifth round
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We're like, so like one of the 
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articles like the NFL also 
didn't think there was a high 

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end guy. 
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second round and then a few guys
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the third round. 
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in the third round but Coram and
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were 12345 more taken in the 
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So six in a in a 15 pick span. 
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another really big run. 
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in rounds 4-5 and six, none in 
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Like a lot of times they 
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some of these guys become UDFAS 
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him everyone jumped in and was 
like we got a guy we like we 

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want to get and they started 
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And so the the point is if the 
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or that's what they were looking
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taken Vidal that's what he like 
what he was kind of a workhorse 

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at Troy they had other options 
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and they could have even taken 
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It seems like they were maybe 
into Tracy. 

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I think like the fact that they 
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this like run on running backs 
it like I I'm looking at that 

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favorably. 
Sakura, just pointing out 98 

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yards to the fucking house. 
We are still in the in the lab 

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thinking about clips that made 
me move the needle for me a 

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little bit. 
Tyrone Tracy would be a good 

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one. 
The the other thing too, it's 

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like when when you're on Tyrone 
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exclusive. 
Like Devin Singletary's price is

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extremely palatable. 
There are certainly scenarios 

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where he holds off and has the 
job the whole year and he pays 

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off that draft cost. 
But again, when we're thinking 

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about best ball, we're trying to
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season. 
Tyron Tracy is the only athlete 

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in this backfield. 
He's the only back that runs 

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quicker than A4540. 
Like, he is the only guy with 

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juice in this backfield. 
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probably going to be in the 
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whether because of chaos in the 
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own efficiency. 
So I mean, we're talking 

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literally. 
The only downside is if he is an

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outright 0, that's that's the 
downside. 

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Anything else with him getting 
on the field like you're loving 

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it at this price? 
He's also 209 lbs, So he's not 

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like he's not 188, you know, 
you're not like, he's not pure 

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pure scat back, like he could be
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You know that. 
That's not, I mean it's it's 

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just not that implausible that 
by the end of the season he has 

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a role like that. 
Devin Singletary's generally 

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just been like a snap eater and 
you know, the most likely 

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scenario is that he just eats 
most of the snaps all season and

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and Tracy has trouble, you know,
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Devin Singletary. 
But like it's pretty fragile 

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though, you know like Devin 
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all season is pretty fragile and
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like there's you know, and again
I think this is where the kick 

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returning thing is, is important
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active. 
You need to be you need you need

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as many possible ways as as we 
can get to be in the right place

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at the right time. 
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I think helps him be the next 
man up. 

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Yeah, there's I mean, some of 
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seem a little bit concerned 
about Tracy, and I get it. 

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And I mean I I I love that this 
is turning into a a whole 

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discussion about Tracy, 'cause 
he's awesome. 

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He's a great example of this 
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But maybe there's like a little 
bit more concern to him. 

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But I will just drive home that 
like if if you're concerned 

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about that. 
If you don't, if you someone 

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said that the the Giants #2's 
not on the roster. 

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If if you are concerned about 
that, fine. 

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But you can still. 
Then you have to pay a little 

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bit more in drafts but they're 
still very affordable. 

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You can still then go to Quorum 
or Lloyd or Benson or you know 

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certainly Bucky Irving is is is 
cheaper even. 

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definitely going to be the 

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number. 
So the big thing about Bucky 

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Irving is he went as the 12345 
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board. 
There was all these athleticism 

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concerns. 
He was ranked like 10th plus on 

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most people's boards. 
I remember on ESPN he was like 5

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running backs down on their best
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was selected. 
So when a team pulls him up over

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four guys on, you know a lot of 
these consensus boards at the 

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position, four guys at the 
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earlier part of the fourth round
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the fourth round. 
Like that's that's their number 

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2. 
That's the dude that they they 

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liked and and now you can look 
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You don't have to worry so much 
about the athleticism. 

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Like there's a lot of these 
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confident aren't gonna be 0. 
Some of them probably will be. 

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I don't wanna like act like 
Hyrone. 

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Tracy's definitely not gonna be 
a zero, and someone reminds us 

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in October. 
Earth Is Kendrick Miller gonna 

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be a zero, you know? 
Right it. 

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It will happen. 
We'll be wrong about some of 

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these guys. 
But by the way, on the 'cause 

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now I've maybe overemphasized 
the special teams too much 

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'cause people are. 
Someone said is he just Kenny 

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and Wang Wu? 
Kenny and Wang Wu had seven 

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career college receptions. 
Tyron Tracy had 113. 

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So I don't, I don't, I don't 
want to go two-part of the 

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specialty, it's nice. 
But the the main part of this is

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that he's a receiving specialist
in a way that the guy like in 

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Wang Wu just just was not. 
Gretch, was there anyone else of

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those rookies that kind of 
particularly stood out to you 

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when? 
You were doing that exercise, 

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Pat mentioned Ray Davis, who's 
another guy that I I didn't when

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I was kind of going through the 
the number twos. 

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But he feels like a pretty clear
#2, right? 

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Like, yeah, I think so, yeah. 
And then the other one, I like 

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the landing spot, but don't 
necessarily love and you 

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mentioned lobby as well. 
And like Gorendo's kind of 

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interesting just because anyone 
in San Francisco is interesting.

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But the other one that I like, 
like but don't kind of love that

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we haven't mentioned, you know, 
is Jalen right? 

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Where it's like I I do think 
it's easy to be like Raheem 

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Osert's 32. 
They they drafted somewhere. 

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They're going to play over 
Monster. 

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Like they're not going to play 
him over Monster. 

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Monster's a different type of 32
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He just had his best career 
season at 31. 

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He's not going to get usurped by
anyone. 

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They're going to get as much out
of him as they can. 

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Like they see him as their 
starter, right? 

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Like he's a huge part of their 
offense until he gets hurt. 

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At what point if he does get 
hurt, Wright's opportunity is 

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there or if it's a chain who 
gets hurt? 

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I think Wright's opportunity is 
there. 

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It seems like he's got two outs 
injury wise and you want players

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in Mike Mcdaniel's offense. 
We know that. 

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Like it? 
Like they They wouldn't have to 

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write athleticism. 
Like it's he's athletic. 

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He's got he's 210 he's fast he's
in he's a he's A2 down like hit 

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the he has red flags he doesn't 
really catch passes he's a one 

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cut runner gets downhill 
explosive but he's not gonna be 

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involved as a receiver. 
The only place that I'm excited 

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about him is in San Francisco or
Miami and he's in Miami. 

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So all right, check now what a 
32 year old starter and maybe 

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the other guy who might be the 
starter is like 188 lbs and even

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if he is awesome, is not going 
to get every touch. 

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So and we're and we're in a 
system that traditionally 

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rotates the backs and you're 
asking me to pay like pick 140 

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for this dude? 
Yeah, great. 

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I will. 
That sounds that sounds awesome.

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Like this is you know we there's
a few backfields where we want 

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to just be taking stabs and this
to me is one of them. 

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It's it's doesn't jump as like 
one of these highly uncertain 

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backfields because HN's going in
like the second, third round and

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most are it's going like top 
100. 

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So it seems like we we figured 
this one out but we really 

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haven't. 
This is actually somewhat 

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uncertain of a backfield as we 
think about especially the late 

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season. 
What does this backfield look 

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like? 
If you're giving me a cheap stab

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on an athletic downhill runner? 
Like, I I don't even like Jill 

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and Wright that much. 
But like this, this feels like 

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kind of a like an easy Click to 
me. 

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He's not like a absolute smash, 
but just. 

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He could be a 0. 
Happy to take him. 

448
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,480
Happy to take him, yeah. 
He could be a 0, but he's a 

449
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,880
handcuffed with with sealing. 
He's that type of player in your

450
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,080
build, like a lot of weeks. 
He probably isn't being used a 

451
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,720
lot. 
Either of those guys misses 

452
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,480
time. 
Suddenly he could be a 15 point 

453
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800
per game guy and you're like, 
all right, I'm, I'm it like, 

454
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,120
that's awesome. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

455
00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:22,440
And I think people, you know, 
this happened last year, right? 

456
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,920
Anytime there's a backfield with
three backs, the market 

457
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,040
struggles with that. 
And maybe last year I was like, 

458
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,560
overconfident on the ambiguity 
of the Bears backfield, 

459
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,320
resulting in like a clear 
winner, which didn't really end 

460
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,760
up happening. 
But I feel pretty confident 

461
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,680
saying there's asymmetric upside
with the Dolphins backfield that

462
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,280
when, like, the risk at Jalen 
Wright's ADP specifically is 

463
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,800
like fully baked out. 
You could say maybe not with a 

464
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,880
chance, like, I'll listen to 
that argument, but at Wright's 

465
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,560
price, it's like all it takes is
literally one injury. 

466
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,920
Or Mike McDaniel just using him 
as one of his weapons. 

467
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,200
He only has five weapons now, 
like he's his fifth weapon in 

468
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,240
this offense. 
Like, it's just not hard for me 

469
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,720
to see him paying that off. 
Yeah, and I mean like the two 

470
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,360
last year, the the backfields 
were like just draft all, all 

471
00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:07,640
the guys, just draft all the 
guys. 

472
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,680
It was the Bears and it was the 
Dolphins. 

473
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,280
And the Bears might not have 
had, yeah, the Saints a little 

474
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,840
bit, but the the Dolphins, you 
know, the Bears basically didn't

475
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,560
give us any hits, but the 
Dolphins gave us two. 

476
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,200
So. 
So this general strategy works 

477
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,760
pretty well. 
And it's weird, 'cause, you 

478
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,280
know, two of the guys this year 
are expensive now. 

479
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,560
But you know this, this is like 
this is a offense we expect to 

480
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,760
put up points to the running 
back. 

481
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,520
This this running back looks 
like he could be pretty talented

482
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:34,160
and he's cheap. 
And and I just wanna like we've 

483
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,920
we've had a lot of fun talking 
about a couple of these names. 

484
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,160
I'm I'm going back to the the 
broader point again, but there's

485
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,400
so many names that we've 
mentioned and the chat even on a

486
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,240
ship chasing show where we're 
all very rookie friendly but we 

487
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520
don't like running backs and no 
one really likes running backs 

488
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,680
anymore. 
They're even in the. 

489
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,440
One 20s and one 40s. 
Right. 

490
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,040
I know that's what I'm saying. 
But like, Chad's like Sean 

491
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,680
Tucker over Bucky Irving. 
And like, I feel like they're 

492
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,520
not even, like even in our neck 
of the woods they're not even 

493
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,760
buying this take so much because
of I think the day three capital

494
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,040
is gonna hang up a lot of 
people. 

495
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,440
My point is just I think they're
gonna stay of value. 

496
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,520
There's enough names and there's
enough people that go, well, 

497
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,680
they're day three capital. 
And the thing I've been trying 

498
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,840
to emphasize is this class, How 
many went in rounds 4-5? 

499
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,720
And six was unique and I don't 
think early day three capital at

500
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,360
running back specifically is 
what it used to because we know 

501
00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:25,160
that it's like takes a lot for a
team to use a third round pick 

502
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,800
on a running back these days, 
especially a second round or 

503
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,080
higher. 
I mean if you again, you go look

504
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,040
at the last few draft classes 
and you look through day three, 

505
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,200
you'll see guys who got early 
opportunity. 

506
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,360
Some of them didn't even get 
rookie your opportunity. 

507
00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:41,040
But like Kyron Williams is a day
three guy who in year two they 

508
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,240
made him their guy. 
Like these teams don't treat day

509
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,640
three capital like it's a 
throwaway at running back. 

510
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,400
They're like, this is a guy 
that's a part of our our depth 

511
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,120
chart like he's he's, he could. 
Play and and you got to apply 

512
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:57,280
what the team did like in a 
logically consistent way. 

513
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,920
Like not to pick on the Sean 
Tucker example, but it's like 

514
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,560
the team told us how they feel 
about Sean Tucker when they made

515
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,080
that Bucky Irving pick. 
Like you can't like this one 

516
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,200
told us. 
How they felt and they didn't 

517
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,800
draft him. 
Yeah, yeah. 

518
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,720
So I I think that that's the 
teams give us such a big clue 

519
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,800
into how they feel about the 
players on their team. 

520
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,920
It's not just the picks they 
make, it's how they feel about 

521
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,240
their current roster. 
And that's why it's like if the 

522
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,440
Giants only sign Devin 
Singletary and then only spend a

523
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,240
pick on Tyrone Tracy, they might
feel pretty good about like 

524
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,520
where they're at or feel like 
they don't need to devote a lot 

525
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,640
of capital there. 
So I don't know. 

526
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,560
I think that's a a point that 
gets lost sometimes. 

527
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:39,760
Yeah, and I I think the other 
point that's big here, 'cause I 

528
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,840
wasn't that big on some of these
guys last year, although to an 

529
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320
extent maybe I was a little bit 
too bearish on like Chase Brown.

530
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,160
But like I was pretty out on Zac
Evans, you know, went to the, 

531
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,720
went to the Rams I think in the 
5th rounds. 

532
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,680
And it's just like, but you 
know, is there competition for 

533
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,880
the RB2 spot? 
And I think that's that's that's

534
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,120
a really important part of this.
And what is, what are we getting

535
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:07,240
from a sense from the team in 
terms of you know where these 

536
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,200
guys are going to slot in right 
away and like it, It seemed it 

537
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,600
so far it's been pretty bullish 
like the the Bucky Irving won. 

538
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,400
Like we know there's no 
competition for the RV. 

539
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,800
Two, we know with Khamani Vidal 
that we could be a little bit 

540
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,600
out over our skis, he could be a
total 0. 

541
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,640
But the upside's so big and also
if there's such a chance of like

542
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,400
running away from us like in 
training camp Vidal's working 

543
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,520
with the one with the ones. 
He's a eighth round pick like 

544
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,720
you know I don't want to take 
him there. 

545
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,080
That's that's too high. 
I I want to get exposure now 

546
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,560
understanding there might be 
there might be outcomes where 

547
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,160
like he is straight up 
undraftable late in the 

548
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,480
offseason. 
If I if I was like nitpicking 

549
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,760
like well, he really ought to be
in the one 80s not the one 60s. 

550
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,800
Like who cares, just get some 
now it could really run away 

551
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,440
from us. 
I I don't think this is a stand 

552
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,240
that we want to take and you can
deal with the zero. 

553
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,320
I know we are risking A0 with 
Fidel, but the upside's big 

554
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,640
enough where I think it's OK 
doing that. 

555
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,240
Marshawn Lloyd, not a guy that 
I'm particularly into as a 

556
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,040
prospect, kind of looks like a a
worst version of Marshawn of 

557
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Jalen Wright to me. 
But he went ahead of Jalen 

558
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,400
Wright in the draft, so maybe 
not. 

559
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,240
And everything out of Green Bay 
has been like, yeah, we don't 

560
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,440
know why they signed Josh 
Jacobs, 'cause we don't plan to 

561
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,040
use them like you wouldn't use 
Josh Jacobs kind of Connor was 

562
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,160
into Aaron Jones, actually wish 
we didn't cut him. 

563
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,760
And yeah, I think we're going to
use Josh Jacobs in a in a 

564
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,000
rotation, 'cause that's how I 
use my running backs. 

565
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,160
And also Marshawn Lloyd is 
pretty sweet and we plan to 

566
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,640
involve him like it's pretty 
like almost everything you would

567
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,400
want to hear if you're drafting 
Marshawn Lloyd, he, I was lower 

568
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,640
on him at 1st and then like now 
I'm above ADP because I think 

569
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,120
he's going to have a role. 
We know AJ Dillon stinks. 

570
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,040
He looks like a smash. 
Yeah. 

571
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,960
So, yeah, I mean, like, I don't 
think we at these prices, we 

572
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,840
don't want to like overthink it.
If there's not that much 

573
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,600
competition for the the RB2 
roll, if it, you know, looks 

574
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,000
like they could immediately slot
in there And it whether that's 

575
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,640
from what we know about the 
depth chart or from what the 

576
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,960
coaches are saying, then these 
guys are values at this point in

577
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,760
the draft. 
I was just clicking back through

578
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,920
prior years again to make sure 
we hit on all the good names 

579
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,800
basically of of good examples 
'cause I think it's it's useful 

580
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,640
to look at those names and I we 
had mentioned some in the last 

581
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,160
couple years but you go back to 
2021, I'm gonna read a list of 

582
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,760
names every single one of them. 
They were 4th through 6th round 

583
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,360
picks. 
Every single one of them had 100

584
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:32,280
or more touches as a rookie. 
Michael Carter. 

585
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,320
Romandre Stevenson. 
Chuba Hubbard. 

586
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,640
Kenneth Gainwell. 
Elijah Mitchell, Khalil Herbert,

587
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,080
6 dudes from the same draft 
class all day three picks, all 

588
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,160
had 100 plus touches as rookies 
like that's not a that's not a 

589
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,880
zero. 
Elijah Mitchell had 200 plus, 

590
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,000
couple of them were over 150. 
That's I think what we're going 

591
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,440
to get this year is, yeah, we're
going to get that 2001 group 

592
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,920
where they're like 6 dudes from 
day three are going to get 100 

593
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,280
plus touches this year and 
you're going to want exposure to

594
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,000
these guys. 
Yep. 

595
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,600
Yeah. 
It it's just kind of like the 

596
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,200
perfect storm you're getting the
discounts coupled with good 

597
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,200
landing spots which is just kind
of a fun combination. 

598
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,560
And again it it sets up really 
nicely for these guys exist at 

599
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,360
like basically every round from 
once Jonathan Brooks and and 

600
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,800
Trey Benson go like you could 
pick which one of these guys you

601
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,880
wanted every step of the way. 
And I'm. 

602
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,960
I'm doing a dynasty draft with 
Sean right now. 

603
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,360
And we had actually blanking on 
who we were deciding between. 

604
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,640
It was Bucky Irving and one of 
these other guys that you know, 

605
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,400
that I like and I've taken a 
bunch of times. 

606
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,280
And I'm like, it's probably 
Tracy. 

607
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,240
It's probably Tracy. 
And it was like, all right, 

608
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,200
let's take Irving, you know, and
it was nice because Sean really 

609
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,360
likes Irving. 
And so it kind of pushed me to 

610
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:52,600
get more of him. 
I think my point is we are going

611
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,440
to be wrong about a lot of 
running backs in this class. 

612
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,280
But I think what we're all agree
in agreement on is that like, 

613
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400
this is fertile ground. 
This is like as collectively 

614
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,640
these running backs are in good 
spots, they're not expensive and

615
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,440
they have interesting parts of 
their profile. 

616
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,320
Now in order for any one of 
these guys to really hit, things

617
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,280
are going to have to go right. 
Like for example, who was the 

618
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,480
hit from the the group that Ben 
just read? 

619
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,520
It was Elijah Mitchell, right? 
Because he happened to be in the

620
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,480
right situation. 
But Remandre Stephenson the 

621
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,000
following year was a much bigger
hit and probably the better 

622
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,200
running back of the two, but it 
didn't happen to be in his 

623
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,920
rookie season. 
So like, even if you're right 

624
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,840
about which who the best player 
is of this group, he might not 

625
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,240
be the guy to hit this year. 
I think spread out your bets to 

626
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,120
some extent among this group. 
Yep, for sure. 

627
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Let's let's do a draft. 
What do you guys have a a 

628
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,360
contest you want to do? 
Do you just want to do a BBMA 

629
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,640
puppy? 
There's some other smaller ones 

630
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,480
in the lobby. 
You guys have a preference? 

631
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,480
I don't care. 
Well, Trey in the chat said No. 

632
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,240
Mistakes Podcast Man, we're 
we're drafting Chihuahuas now. 

633
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,560
Yeah. 
We should do a movie of Trey in 

634
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,480
the chat says look at the new 
Rashid Rice report. 

635
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,160
I assume that's the the new one 
about him punching the I I. 

636
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,120
I'm nervous that there's another
new one. 

637
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,880
Is there another new one it? 
Could be. 

638
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,000
Yeah, don't say new with Rashid 
Rice. 

639
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,120
If it was a right, that doesn't 
mean new. 

640
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,920
I'm looking at the ship chasing 
Discord and no one's posted a 

641
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,320
link. 
I promise you if there was a new

642
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,200
report, the link would have been
posted in there. 

643
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,880
Yeah, OK. 
I just wanted to ask. 

644
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,240
I figured the chat would have 
would have let us know too. 

645
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,640
By now. 
I mean there. 

646
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,160
Was news today that people are 
civilians said that they that 

647
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,960
they disputed that there was any
physical altercation and it was 

648
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,120
just shouting. 
So I don't know if that's the 

649
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,840
new part of the report 'cause 
that did happen today, but that 

650
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:50,040
was like 04 hours ago. 
Where Pat I Where are you? 

651
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,200
Where are you guys? 
I I I saw Sacrilegious's note in

652
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,840
In the Leg Up Discord and it was
more in line with where what I 

653
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,960
feel then basically everything 
I'm seeing on like Twitter and 

654
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,400
stuff which is like I mean I I 
love our buddy Denny Carter but 

655
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,000
Denny tweeted the other day it 
wouldn't like it wouldn't 

656
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,440
surprise anyone if Rishi Rice 
doesn't play another snap in the

657
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,960
NFL. 
And I was like, I mean yeah, but

658
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,800
like you said about anyone like 
we don't really know what's 

659
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,960
going to come on the off field 
stuff. 

660
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,760
I I still am like no one made 
this big of a deal about the 

661
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,360
Jordan Addison stuff. 
There was a wreck. 

662
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,440
It is on on film there. 
There's more to the Rashi Rice 

663
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,440
thing. 
Jordan Addison was clocked going

664
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,800
significantly faster than Rashi 
Rice was going. 

665
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,920
Marquis Brown is another dude of
the year prior that was speeding

666
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,640
at a a much higher speed than 
even Rashi Rice was going. 

667
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,400
Doesn't matter. 
But like he he was street racing

668
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,720
and got in a wreck. 
There was some stuff off the 

669
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,520
field, stuff concerns prior to 
him being drafted, and now I 

670
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,120
don't even know why he's in a 
nightclub right now when he's 

671
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,000
already got enough going on. 
I understand that it's a really 

672
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,880
dumb thing to add to what you've
already got going on, but it's 

673
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,520
maybe just a shouting match with
a bouncer or something. 

674
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,720
Maybe it was a a physical 
altercation like he didn't. 

675
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,840
The problem is that we're 
learning stuff. 

676
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,960
We're like, all of a sudden 
we're like, oh, he was off 

677
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,920
team's boards. 
I didn't know that. 

678
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,920
Oh, like, you know, stuff's 
starting to pile up where you're

679
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520
kind of like, what is the 
underlying cause of all these 

680
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,880
things? 
Is there like? 

681
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,720
Something that's the concern. 
Could create another thing. 

682
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,120
It's May, man. 
It is May 9th. 

683
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,040
Like we need this dude to get to
the season at this point. 

684
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Like, you know, like I'm getting
nervous where, you know, I do 

685
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,760
think there's some concern about
what how many games does he play

686
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,000
this year? 
You know, I think it's like like

687
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,520
is week 17 definitely he's 
playing do they do they install 

688
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,120
less plays for him than they 
would have. 

689
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,120
I think we're in that territory 
now, which is meant what make is

690
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,680
this upside case actually 
getting affected by this because

691
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,200
the team's gonna kind of build 
without him to some extent. 

692
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,160
Any votes for another pick other
than Garrett Wilson at 111 in 

693
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:50,480
this? 
Trash. 

694
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,680
I think this is pretty clear. 
That is, that's a really funny 

695
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,160
question that, to to summarize 
what Pat is saying, is Rashi 

696
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Rice now closer to Cadarius Tony
or closer to Travis Kelsey? 

697
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,520
Right, right. 
The chat is also saying Henry 

698
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,400
Ruggs is everyone's worry, and I
get that. 

699
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,400
But like, I guess what I'm 
saying is the Henry Ruggs thing.

700
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,600
Wild, tragic. 
Sorry, put a pin in it just for 

701
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,400
20 seconds 'cause we got to make
a decision here. 

702
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,920
Marvin Harrison, Drake London, 
Jonathan Taylor. 

703
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,680
I mean, I think I'm Harrison. 
I'm. 

704
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,280
I'm fine with it. 
I haven't been taking a lot of 

705
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:29,080
Harrison, but you don't usually 
get into this is that that was 

706
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,600
really tragic and I'm not 
undermining the the tragedy 

707
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,360
there. 
And it was a terrible decision. 

708
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,560
It was, you know, he should not 
have been speeding and doing 

709
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,120
those things. 
But like the the reason Henry 

710
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,240
Ruggs is Henry Ruggs is not that
Henry Ruggs is a serial killer. 

711
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,040
It's that the outcome was a lot 
worse and that's that's 

712
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,560
horrible. 
But like what I'm saying is I 

713
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,120
guess essentially I I don't 
think in any group of society 

714
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,760
including in the NFL that 
everyone is a St. right? 

715
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,200
Like there's a lot of other 
dudes that were drafting that 

716
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,240
probably have risk of off field 
issues as well and sometimes we 

717
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,280
maybe just don't hear about 
them. 

718
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960
Sometimes we hear about them and
they sound like this person's 

719
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,880
really kind of an asshole. 
But like, it's not. 

720
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,679
It doesn't end up being that big
of a thing. 

721
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,920
Like over the whole Dalvin Cook 
thing with his ex-girlfriend. 

722
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,840
I don't remember what the deal 
was with that, but like, it 

723
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,760
seemed like he was kind of an 
asshole. 

724
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,280
And then it's like, yeah, but 
like, whatever. 

725
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,760
Like, she was also weird and so 
like, it didn't become a thing 

726
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,840
ever, right. 
My point is I don't think Rashi 

727
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,400
Rice is like, like everyone's 
saying what could come next and 

728
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,760
and that does seem like a a 
legitimate concern. 

729
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,760
But in terms of like analyzing 
his ability to play, the fact of

730
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,639
the matter is the situations we 
know about aren't like 10 game 

731
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:44,560
suspension situations, at least 
as far as I'm reading it now, if

732
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,400
he does another thing. 
Drew Davenport said he thinks 

733
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,440
the floor is 6 to 8. 
The floor? 

734
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,199
Yeah, that's what he said. 
Oh, I thought. 

735
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,280
I thought he was saying, is he a
different legal one than the 

736
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,880
other person I was reading 
about? 

737
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,920
What? 
Who was saying? 

738
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,960
There's another legal person 
that was like thinking it was 

739
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,120
like one to two. 
This was. 

740
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,880
I included a link to this thread
yeah in the newsletter. 

741
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Yesterday. 
I still don't believe, however, 

742
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,200
that even if both charges are 
resolved before the season, that

743
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,960
he misses the entire 2024 
campaign. 

744
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,440
That would be exceedingly 
unusual, not ruling it out, but 

745
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,680
I highly doubt that. 
I'd say the floor, though, moves

746
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,880
up to six to eight games. 
The floor this is Drew 

747
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,480
Davenport's, the same person 
that if I'm not mistaken that a 

748
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,680
few weeks and maybe like a month
ago. 

749
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,640
Was making me. 
Feel like it might only be one 

750
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,440
to two games. 
It changes it, though, because 

751
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,040
it's like, what are we 
suspending him for? 

752
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,240
And it's kind of like we're now 
we're starting to suspend you 

753
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,560
for just like kind of who you 
are, you know? 

754
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,040
Like, that's why I think the NFL
is like starting to be like, all

755
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,320
right, dude, like, so and this 
is we like this whole thing is 

756
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,320
PR for the NFL, right? 
That's, that's what it comes 

757
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,240
down to. 
So the perception of this makes 

758
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,480
a big difference. 
And I think it should just look 

759
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,640
at the reaction. 
It shifts the perception when 

760
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,840
you have the incident that he 
had and then you have this 

761
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,800
second incident which is just 
like what is going on and then 

762
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,320
you have all these reports 
coming out, so. 

763
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,640
The question then becomes like, 
let let's say it's six. 

764
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,880
You know, the NFL always seems 
to air on the on the softer side

765
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,000
of those ranges. 
Then you're in Jameson Williams 

766
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,560
territory, right? 
As far as missing six games, 

767
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,120
people were happily taking 
Jameson Williams around pick 100

768
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,560
in drafts. 
I mean, Rice is already falling 

769
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,640
to pick 70 in some spots. 
Much better player proven player

770
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,200
than what we've seen from 
Jameson like you already start 

771
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,360
to wander into is. 
Is the risk already baked in at 

772
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,400
that fall price, assuming a six 
game suspension? 

773
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,360
Yeah, So what Sacrilege just 
posted yesterday in the the 

774
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,520
Discord was basically just like 
let's take a day off on drafting

775
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,760
where she writes let's let him 
fall. 

776
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,600
And I think you could apply that
to today as well and just 

777
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,280
letting him fall make pushing 
him every time like you know 

778
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,000
you're getting him 3-4 picks 
past ADP, not enough pushing him

779
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,160
see him he comes back another 
round. 

780
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,560
That's cool you you know I think
that's the way to play it 

781
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,600
because we don't want to be 
ride. 

782
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,240
This is a player that like I 
already had a bunch of leg up 

783
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:13,080
subscribers will have already 
had a bunch of like I thought he

784
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,360
was pretty good value before. 
I don't want to ride it all the 

785
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,280
way down. 
I want to at this point let let 

786
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,160
the freak out kind of run its 
course and then see where that 

787
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,920
lands him. 
And if it lands in a spot where 

788
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,240
I think the risk, you know, the 
the reward justifies the risk, 

789
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:35,160
then we start taking them again.
We are on the clock by rank. 

790
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,560
We got Hertz, Jacobs, Kelsey, 
Lamar. 

791
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,880
We do got some wide receivers. 
Zay, T Pittman. 

792
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,240
What do you guys think? 
I think I'd go Kelsey. 

793
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,840
That's who I was looking at or 
or going one of the receivers 

794
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,680
and but yeah, I think Kelsey's a
good pick. 

795
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,960
Scrap Kelsey and then we'll 
probably still not. 

796
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,960
We're sitting here talking about
how Rasheet writes might miss 

797
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,880
the whole year. 
Like, yeah, that's the dude that

798
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,360
is like a threat to Kelsey's 
like specific type of usage in 

799
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,320
that short intermediate range. 
Right. 

800
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,800
Yeah, yeah. 
I think that's always a good way

801
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,160
to play it. 
Like when there's uncertainty, 

802
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,440
make the room, like force you to
make the pick. 

803
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,920
Essentially. 
You guys want to grab tank? 

804
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,920
Yeah. 
Let's do, let's do another share

805
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,960
of tank. 
Yeah, he's got the Pete's got 

806
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,960
the tank on. 
He's got the tank fever. 

807
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,960
He already said it's it's 
Pete's. 

808
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,440
Pete's guy is the tank. 
Now I was listening to the Roto 

809
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:37,600
World Football Show and the the 
patent Denny one and Roto Pat 

810
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,480
said is Tank Dell even draftable
now? 

811
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:46,720
And Denny was like, yes, and 
he's like what is where should 

812
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,040
he go? 
Like I don't know like what is 

813
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,880
the eighth round? 
Maybe the eighth round would be 

814
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:55,080
OK And I was just sitting here 
like, I mean Rotopad has no 

815
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,080
idea, like he, you know, he 
doesn't know we're taking, we're

816
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,400
taking Tank Dell on the 4th and 
are excited about it. 

817
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,160
But like you're the guy in that 
meme in the in the corner, he 

818
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,800
doesn't know we're taking Tank 
Dell 30. 6% exposure to Tank 

819
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,600
Dell in the early. 4th But it 
did make me wonder that like are

820
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,640
we gonna see Tank Dell drop a 
lot? 

821
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,000
Like, is it you know, is like 
'cause I know for one like one 

822
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,560
guy who's not super into the 
best balls traits at least is 

823
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,840
going to come in and be like 
fourth round tank Dell, you 

824
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,280
know, I think is it is he kind 
of a guy maybe where we not that

825
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,680
we're wrong. 
Like I think this is a good 

826
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,280
price. 
I just made the case on bad pros

827
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,040
that that he's a good pick in 
the fourth round. 

828
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,600
And I I do think he is, but it 
is he like a potential follower 

829
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,960
when more casuals come in. 
Definitely. 

830
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,800
Or Diggs and Collins both going 
in the I think people are gonna 

831
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,920
freak out about that too. 
The the The only reason I would 

832
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,320
say maybe not is because when 
the casuals come in is going to 

833
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,960
coincide with either more 
bullishness or bearishness about

834
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,080
how he's recovering. 
And I I mostly attribute this 

835
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,720
price to ambiguity about his 
return from injury. 

836
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:06,440
I think if we felt really good, 
like if he never got injured 

837
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,720
last year, I think he would be 
going like mid third round, 

838
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,800
early third round. 
So. 

839
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,120
I I I don't know if I buy that. 
I mean, what's like why? 

840
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,520
Why would Diggs impact Dell but 
not Nico's? 

841
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,400
That's how he be. 
Well, mostly because Nico was 

842
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,960
quite a bit better, like if you 
look at yards per out run, stuff

843
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,720
like that and. 
You know that was done with Dell

844
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:32,600
off the field. 
OK, That's fair. 

845
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,040
Dell. 
I think Dell was the better of 

846
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,240
the two when they were both 
playing. 

847
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,360
Was he? 
So his yard sprout run finished,

848
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,640
it finished at 2.22, which is 
good, very good for a rookie. 

849
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,320
Sorry. 
I mean I I said that as like as 

850
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,880
as if it wasn't good. 
Nico was great at 3.10 like he 

851
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,120
was like at a on a different 
plateau. 

852
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,720
That's the only reason I would 
say that. 

853
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,160
And then I guess just wait as 
well like week 12:00-ish. 

854
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,760
Week. 13, yeah. 
Let me pull that out. 

855
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,120
I'm gonna, I'm gonna see if I 
can figure out the years per out

856
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,400
run while they were both 
playing. 

857
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,640
It's it's it's it is a really 
interesting thing because I mean

858
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,720
we do know like in general of 
like when you have a little bit 

859
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:19,320
of ambiguity playing it through 
the cheapest piece is nice and 

860
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,440
yet the delta between, you know,
very it's not massive enough. 

861
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,680
Like if you wanted to say I 
strongly feel like Diggs is way 

862
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,760
better like be like OK, whereas 
like in what where the the year 

863
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,640
Debo was a smash pick. 
I mean, his gap in ADP from 

864
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,840
those other guys was just. 
I agree with that for sure, 

865
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,000
yeah. 
Yeah, I mean, to me the the 

866
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,560
example is actually Ben's guy, 
Roma Doomsay. 

867
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,080
Like that's the one where you're
getting a dude in the 6th, 7th 

868
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,520
round where, you know, at the 
end of the season could he be 

869
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,400
the top tart? 
I don't think it's, you know, 

870
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,600
out of the realm. 
Compete at the beginning of the 

871
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,960
season as far as I'm concerned. 
Well, that that would surprise 

872
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,560
me, but you. 
Know it'd be a little 

873
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,440
surprising, but you guys haven't
seen Roma doonze play it enough.

874
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Yeah, I. 
It's so funny, 'cause when you 

875
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,280
started talking about Roma 
Doonze, you know, he's like this

876
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,520
four year guy and like there's 
some holes in his profile and 

877
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,440
like, like, you know, some red 
flags, I I suppose. 

878
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,840
But you, you were kind of 
nervous that I was going to be 

879
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,760
out on him. 
But I love that this is broken 

880
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,840
where I'm like, no, we're 
drafted, Roma dudes. 

881
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,400
We're drafted Roma, dudes. 
All right. 

882
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,600
I'm in, man. 
By the way, Sean's completely 

883
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,160
out on him. 
Yeah, he's he and Shawn of Adam 

884
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,520
sometimes you. 
Weren't right to be nervous. 

885
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,920
About testing our friendship on 
a personal level. 

886
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:39,240
Jaden Reed, Terry Mclaurin, I 
like, I like both of those guys.

887
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,440
Rashad White, George Kittle, 
Kenneth Walker. 

888
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,720
But I I think Reed or Mclaurin. 
What do you guys like? 

889
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,880
That's where I'm at. 
I would. 

890
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,720
I I would prefer Mclaurin, I 
think if I was. 

891
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,000
Picking one, let's do. 
It also always nice to have a 

892
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,680
Jayden Daniels out. 
Right. 

893
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,360
Especially. 
With I haven't taken a lot of 

894
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,600
Mclaurin, but I think Jayden 
Daniels could be good for him, 

895
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,960
you know, I mean he's not like a
superstar, but a late 5th price 

896
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,120
on him is cheaper than you know.
People used to think he was like

897
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,520
a third round type wide 
receiver. 

898
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Now we get the later in his 
prime. 

899
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,920
No longer, you know, like a a 
sexy name. 

900
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,520
We get the 511 price. 
It's it's kind of nice. 

901
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,120
We have seen like this be a an 
archetype of kind of fifth round

902
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,120
wide receiver breakout. 
It's like a guy we're all like, 

903
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,880
yeah, he's pretty good. 
And then like something changes 

904
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,080
and we're like, yeah, but he's, 
I don't know, I'm bored of him. 

905
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,120
Yeah, but it was like there was 
more meat on the bone and he was

906
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,200
able to take it to another 
level, yeah. 

907
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,120
All right, so when through week 
12, cause tank Dell was hurt. 

908
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,560
In week 13, he only had four 
routes. 

909
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,440
Through week 12, Nico was better
2.56 Dell. 

910
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,640
Oh, I forgot to this is 
slightly. 

911
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,160
We're about to pick. 
They were basically tied. 

912
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:55,240
This pick, so he goes George 
Kittle. 

913
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:58,440
This could be an anchor here, 
with Rashad White slipping past 

914
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,880
ADP or Kenneth Walker, otherwise
reaching for another wide 

915
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,840
receiver. 
I This is where I would take 

916
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,040
white or I like Walker. 
I I would take a doonsay too. 

917
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,200
You want to do a doonsay. 
Yeah, let's do a doomsay. 

918
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,160
I mean when we already got the 
four other names that we feel 

919
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,400
really good. 
About But a doonsay's way more 

920
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,440
fun. 
A doonsay's like a this is a 

921
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,840
good bill to put them on to. 
I don't really love those. 

922
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,440
I I would have probably been 
fine with Walker over Rashad 

923
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,960
White. 
But yeah, I don't really love 

924
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,400
taking the, just the. 
ADP of White but Walker, I Yeah.

925
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,320
Yeah, and the two V twos later, 
it's like we're going to like a 

926
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,880
lot of running backs later. 
We always do. 

927
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,400
You know, like every draft I do,
I'm like, I want to take a 

928
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,680
running back at every pick. 
Like there's always good running

929
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,480
backs. 
Yep. 

930
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:51,240
Yeah, and this is, this is also 
like another thing to do right 

931
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:55,160
now a a case for like if you 
really want to take advantage of

932
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,520
some of the rookie risers. 
And we talked about this a lot 

933
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,600
last year where it's like OK you
do you do a modified, you know, 

934
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,720
zero RV build where you take 
your running back in the 5th or 

935
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:07,640
6th and then you pretend like 
that running back pays off as a 

936
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,520
first round value and you 
actually have an anchor running 

937
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,920
back build which would allow you
to push your second running back

938
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,560
further than you would feel 
comfortable with a normal fifth 

939
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,280
round pick. 
Like I think you could do that 

940
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,720
right now with extreme 0 RB and 
saying like a couple of the guys

941
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,680
we get in the 9th and 10th 
round, whether it's a Trey 

942
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,840
Benson, Jonathan Brooks, Zach 
Moss, we treat them like fifth 

943
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,880
round running backs. 
You know where it's like and 

944
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,120
then we build around that and 
just saying we think we're going

945
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,640
to get a huge windfall of value.
What can we do within this 

946
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,840
structure with that in mind? 
I like that. 

947
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:41,840
Love it. 
Yeah, Doonesay there is pretty 

948
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,480
fun, especially, you know, kind 
of giving us that late season 

949
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,920
upside as well. 
Marquis Brown, I guess, makes 

950
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,240
slightly more sense from a 
stacking perspective, but we 

951
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,800
don't have Mahomes, Mahomes and 
like, we're kind of just betting

952
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,320
on Kelsey, you know. 
So yeah, I like it. 

953
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,800
And I especially think what 
you're saying Pete is true about

954
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,560
like, you know, like Jonathan 
Brooks. 

955
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,400
Like Brooks if he wasn't coming 
off the torn ACL would probably 

956
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,080
be like he would be 1/5 sixth 
round pick. 

957
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,600
And So what you're betting, 
especially at the end of like if

958
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,560
we can get like a Brooks type 
and then we can, you know, get 

959
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,000
that late season upside, The 
easiest thing to fill in right 

960
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,240
now, the easiest thing is those 
early season touches. 

961
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,000
Those are cheap as hell, yeah. 
That's a good point. 

962
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,840
Rice goes there at six O 8. 
Something else I I wanted to to 

963
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,760
to put a bow on that, which was 
part of I think Zac Zac 

964
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,480
Religious's message as well. 
It's just this idea that like, 

965
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,120
yes, there's a ton of risk. 
Yes, we should let him fall way 

966
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,680
past ADP. 
All those things you said I 

967
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,320
completely agree with. 
But like he went after Calvin 

968
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,000
Ridley in Tennessee right in 
this draft he went after Marquis

969
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Brown who maybe Marquis Brown 
now is more interesting. 

970
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,080
He's at at a point in the draft 
at at this point. 

971
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,520
I maybe maybe he has to fall 
further than this even for me to

972
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,880
make this this case. 
But where I think the upside for

973
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,000
him is quite a bit higher. 
I mean I again I was just saying

974
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,560
tanked out. 
Had a really good rookie season 

975
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,440
at 2.2 yards per out run like 
Rishi Rice had that as well. 

976
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,880
He was right in that range. 
He was even higher in the 

977
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,920
regular season, a little bit 
lower after you bring in the 

978
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,480
routes from the post season, but
did so at a really low A dot, 

979
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,480
really high catch rate, good 
yards after the catch, strong 

980
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,800
yards per target, especially 
when you adjust for that low 

981
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,520
depth. 
There's a lot of stuff about his

982
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,640
profile that's like really 
bullish if he's actually, if 

983
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:36,800
this is a blip in the road for 
him, but it's maybe not. 

984
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,240
So I'm not, I'm not saying we 
like go all in on him or 

985
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:42,080
anything, but I do think the the
thing that I liked, I just 

986
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,400
wanted to emphasize that the 
Sakhala just said was like you 

987
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,760
are you're you're you're 
drafting one team, you are still

988
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,080
trying to build the best 
possible team you can. 

989
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,000
You don't want him to have like 
too high of exposure and ruin 

990
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,560
too much stuff. 
But when you start to get these 

991
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,720
prices on a player like that, 
what that can mean for that 

992
00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,480
build if he's actually not 
suspended that much, it can mean

993
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,040
a lot for that build. 
If you're getting like a 

994
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,600
whatever, you think he has third
round talent in the seventh 

995
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,400
round, like that's. 
That's interesting. 

996
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,520
Yeah, especially if you're 
building, you know, if he's your

997
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,360
wide receiver three, like, I 
don't think that's gonna work. 

998
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,920
But if you're building 
aggressively with wide receivers

999
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,800
early and tacking him on almost 
like a rookie, like you're like 

1000
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,920
he's a rookie again. 
But like, think about it like 

1001
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,040
that, right? 
He's a rookie again, so the 

1002
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,480
first eight weeks probably don't
matter. 

1003
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:29,120
But we actually know he's good. 
I mean that that's about as good

1004
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,440
of like a seventh round, eighth 
round, rookie pick as you can 

1005
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,600
make. 
When you said the wide receiver 

1006
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,040
three thing, I thought you you 
made the point of the eight 

1007
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,240
weeks. 
But I thought you were thinking,

1008
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,240
I mean, I would, I would love 
him if if he was your wide 

1009
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:42,800
receiver three and he actually 
didn't get suspended, you'd be 

1010
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,080
like, 'cause then you're 
stacked. 

1011
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,640
Everywhere else you're like, 
man, I got a great price on my 

1012
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,960
wide receiver 3 on top of two 
good running backs or something,

1013
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,440
you know? 
Kyler with Marv seems great. 

1014
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,240
We could probably push him 
around maybe if we want to take 

1015
00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:00,000
the Montgomery value. 
Any thoughts? 

1016
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,240
I probably 5. 
Seconds. 

1017
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,080
Yeah, Gretch. 
Good with Kyler. 

1018
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,920
My risk aversion would have been
to grab Kyler as well. 

1019
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,720
I thought that was great. 
But Montgomery is a really 

1020
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:18,680
interesting RV one. 
And so when you said we could 

1021
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,680
probably push him around, I was.
I was open to that because I 

1022
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,400
trust you. 
You read Ruben's way better than

1023
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,240
I do. 
But I. 

1024
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,720
Thought maybe and he only had 
two wide receivers, so I was 

1025
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,560
like he's pretty behind the 8 
ball. 

1026
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,240
Yeah, when someone has two wide 
receivers through five rounds 

1027
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:35,160
though, I'm like, I don't know 
what you're going to do. 

1028
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:40,040
We we are not the same you. 
We are not the. 

1029
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,120
Same. 
We are not the same. 

1030
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,480
I can't even get your head, man.
You're a wild card. 

1031
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,960
You're seriously. 
That's great. 

1032
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,680
A lot of goes there. 
This is a nice value on. 

1033
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,480
Montgomery. 
Love that. 

1034
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,240
So here's the team through 
eight. 

1035
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,520
We got Kyler stacked up with 
Marvin Harrison, just grabbed 

1036
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,160
our first running back, David 
Montgomery in the 8th, the full 

1037
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,520
wide receiver room, Garrett 
Wilson, Marvin Harrison, Tank 

1038
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,400
Dell, Terry Mclaurin, Rome at 
Dunesay, and then Travis Kelsey 

1039
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,200
at tight end. 
So pretty nice. 

1040
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,720
There. 
Some upside at the onesies Cheap

1041
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,120
running back production in 
Montgomery and five really fun 

1042
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,800
wide receivers. 
Jeremy Sam Rice is what we were 

1043
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,200
playing for JSN to be. 
And yeah I think that's it's 

1044
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,200
kind of true. 
I think the the, the reason to 

1045
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,760
let him fall right now is that 
like I kind of want to see like 

1046
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,480
where he lands, like does he end
up in the eighth, does he end up

1047
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,320
in the ninth. 
And then also like just like 

1048
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,760
the, the whole thing of like are
we potentially looking to like 

1049
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,120
the, the early beginning of a 
situation that led to his 

1050
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,680
relationship with the team 
deteriorating, You know, like if

1051
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,320
I would like the, the the rate 
of incidents should probably 

1052
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,520
slow down, yeah. 
That would that would be ideal. 

1053
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,640
I wish you would stop doing 2. 
The only other reason the like 

1054
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,040
when you talk about the team, 
the only other reason that I'm 

1055
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,120
like mildly optimistic is the 
Chiefs have had a lot of stuff. 

1056
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,040
It goes beyond just like the 
Tyree kill and stuff. 

1057
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,760
They've had a lot of stuff and 
Andy Reid's put up with a lot of

1058
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,040
stuff. 
They still have Canaries Tony on

1059
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,760
the roster and they literally 
had to deactivate this guy for 

1060
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,720
the Super Bowl. 
He was so big of a distraction. 

1061
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:12,080
They're like, dude, like we 
can't even bring you to the 

1062
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,120
Super Bowl. 
Like, and he's tweeting like the

1063
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:17,920
the day of the game like about 
how much, how much it was bull 

1064
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,480
crap that they deactivated in a 
row what they were telling lies 

1065
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,640
or whatever it was. 
And it's like, dude, your 

1066
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,240
teammates are about to go play 
the Super Bowl and you're like 

1067
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:27,080
trying to make this about you. 
I mean like how? 

1068
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,080
And they still have him on the 
roster. 

1069
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,480
They I thought they're gonna cut
him right away in the offseason.

1070
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,120
I mean, like, Andy Reid has a 
lot of patience, I'll put it 

1071
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,960
that way. 
Let me I finally have the the 

1072
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,600
stats here on the the text and 
stuff. 

1073
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:46,120
So through week 12 so Tank Dell 
was at 2.24 yards per route run 

1074
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,640
because he there's four extra 
routes that he got tacked on in 

1075
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,280
week week 13. 
Nico Collins at 2.56. 

1076
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,560
So that's, you know, decently 
ahead, but both were really 

1077
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,000
good. 
Then the remainder of the 

1078
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,360
season, Week 13 through the 
playoffs, Nico Collins had a 

1079
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,880
4.18 yards per out run. 
So there I do think. 

1080
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,520
You're but there was no one else
drawing. 

1081
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,080
Any. 
Yeah, there was no one else over

1082
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,080
that that span. 
Second highest in yards per out.

1083
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,320
One was Brevin Jordan at 2.20 on
the limited sample, and then 

1084
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:21,840
Dalton Schultz was only 1.67. 
The next highest wide receiver 

1085
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,600
was Noah Brown at 0.89. 
So it just ran through Nico at 

1086
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,160
the end of the season. 
And that's probably the most, 

1087
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,680
like, fragile part of this, 
right? 

1088
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,640
Like that. 
Like that's the part that's not 

1089
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,560
going to happen again. 
There's that's. 

1090
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:39,240
Not going to happen again, but 
it speaks favorably for me when 

1091
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,280
I had some questions. 
Still, I think a little bit of 

1092
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,040
questions about Nico and, and 
just like how much is the system

1093
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,320
and all of that, It speaks 
really favorably that, like, no 

1094
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,040
one's drawing any coverage from 
him, They're going to the 

1095
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,480
postseason. 
Everyone knows 'cause remember 

1096
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,920
he had a good postseason game. 
Like everyone knows, the offense

1097
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,480
is going through Nico and he's 
still putting up those types of 

1098
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,680
per route production like that. 
Nico's good, it's good. 

1099
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,320
Nico's good. 
Yeah, there's no doubt Nico's 

1100
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:06,640
good. 
All right, we are on the clock 

1101
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,800
here. 
Brian Robinson could be a way to

1102
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,280
build out. 
I know you don't like Robinson 

1103
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,800
so much, but I like I like him 
here, building out the. 

1104
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,840
Bet did we do Robinson versus 
Javonte on the last stream. 

1105
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,800
That's why I started laughing. 
Yeah. 

1106
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:18,400
We did. 
We. 

1107
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,680
Did. 
Was it Robinson versus Chase 

1108
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,880
Brown? 
I I love I think it was Robinson

1109
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,840
versus Chase Brown I think we go
I I mean we have a chance to do 

1110
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,240
watch the. 
Case for Brian Robinson is we're

1111
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:30,520
gonna make a huge Yeah. 
Washington Stack we we didn't 

1112
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,040
let Pat do do that last time 
Wait. 

1113
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,400
Oh, we take Jayden Daniels on 
the way around the. 

1114
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,680
Yeah, we. 
That's the idea. 

1115
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,920
This is the shit that I I never 
build into my builds. 

1116
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,440
Like, I don't think through the 
stacks as well as you two. 

1117
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,320
I love drafting with you guys. 
Yeah, this is great. 

1118
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,360
I love it. 
I mean, I Jane Daniels. 

1119
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,440
Just think about Brian Robinson 
a lot 'cause I drafted. 

1120
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,880
See, I just look at that and I 
go like, I'm so into Javonte. 

1121
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,080
I gotta click him there and it's
it totally just about volume. 

1122
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,720
It's he was bad last year, but 
like Sean Payton used him 

1123
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,200
despite him being really bad a 
lot. 

1124
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,280
Like I'm I, they've added some 
other backs so maybe maybe 

1125
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,800
that's not going to carry over, 
but I. 

1126
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,720
I'm seeing I like. 
I like Javonte too, I. 

1127
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,080
Like Javonte, the the other 
theme to this is we have a 

1128
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,520
street cred element Tank Dell, 
Brian Robinson, guys who have 

1129
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,440
taken a bullet are who were 
putting on. 

1130
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,800
Our many men wish that the. 
But these dudes are just, like, 

1131
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,200
just chilling. 
They're just hanging out for him

1132
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:35,000
off to sit in his car. 
Exactly. 

1133
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,000
So we do take Jaden Daniels, so 
now we got Jaden, Brian Robinson

1134
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,560
and Mclaurin and then we got 
Kyler with Marvin Harrison. 

1135
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,720
So this is fun in that you're 
getting the two monster upside 

1136
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,480
rushing QB profiles that are 
also the cheapest like all the 

1137
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,800
other ones go you know in in 
rounds 3 through 5. 

1138
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,600
So that's a it's a fun pairing. 
It is. 

1139
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:03,880
It's very fun. 
Let's see here. 

1140
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,640
Yeah, so two quarterbacks, 2 
running backs, 5 wide receivers,

1141
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,680
one tight end there and like we 
don't miss out like Caleb 

1142
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,440
Williams had already gone off 
the board with Rome. 

1143
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,600
Like you can always do the Aaron
Rodgers stuff late. 

1144
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,400
I didn't see anything else like 
screaming at us to be like man, 

1145
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,280
punt QB two a little bit more. 
Like I I didn't see that pick. 

1146
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,640
It's a good I I'm, yeah, I'm, 
I'm finding it like somewhat 

1147
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,080
hard to to get Daniels, which I 
I definitely want exposure to 

1148
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,360
him. 
This is a really good way to do 

1149
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,200
it. 
Like you actually want Mclaurin 

1150
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,720
and Robinson on the Daniels 
build. 

1151
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:43,360
You wanna say that Daniels is 
gonna be good. 

1152
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,200
The offense is gonna be good. 
And if that's the case, like the

1153
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,720
guys that are the incumbents are
gonna be, they're gonna be good 

1154
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:51,800
as a result. 
It could literally be what? 

1155
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,360
Like if Anthony Richardson had 
stayed healthy the whole year. 

1156
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,320
You know, you had the Anthony 
Richardson, Zach Moss and 

1157
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:57,840
Michael Pittman. 
Like all those guys were 

1158
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,080
feasting. 
Yes. 

1159
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,440
In that offense. 
That's right. 

1160
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,560
I'm a little more concerned 
about Austin Ekler than Pat 

1161
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,400
seems to be. 
I I guess I would want to hear 

1162
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,120
his thought on that, but he had 
to bounce for a SEC. 

1163
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,080
But. 
Yeah, we were you and I, we we 

1164
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,160
talked about that. 
I think it was was it last week 

1165
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,080
or two weeks ago. 
I I think I was with you in 

1166
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,280
that. 
Like part of what was exciting 

1167
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,800
about Brian Robinson last year 
was he was getting some screen 

1168
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,760
pass usage and you just got to 
imagine that that really dries 

1169
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,680
up. 
And what if Ekler's, like, has a

1170
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,160
rebound year? 
Like, I don't think. 

1171
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,720
I think I'm. 
I don't want to catch the 

1172
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:34,880
falling knife on Echolor, but I 
don't. 

1173
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,240
We know he's like a workout 
warrior. 

1174
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:38,600
We know he takes good care of 
himself. 

1175
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:44,160
He turns 29 this year, not 31 
like it's actually next week. 

1176
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,080
It looks like he's turning 29 
here in May, so it's not like 

1177
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,760
he's going to play at 28 this 
whole year. 

1178
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,720
But his efficiency fell off last
year for sure, but he still got 

1179
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:57,080
over 200 touches. 
And the two years prior to that 

1180
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,880
he led the NFL in touchdowns 2 
years in a row. 

1181
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,960
Like, I know he's on a different
team and usually when you see 

1182
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,000
the fall off like we did in 
2023, that's it. 

1183
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,960
But I'm at least like I don't. 
I'm not saying I want to draft 

1184
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,800
Eckler. 
I don't want to be acquiring him

1185
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,720
in like pretty much any format. 
But it concerns me for Brian 

1186
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,560
Robinson that Eckler could just 
be the better back. 

1187
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,280
Like, you know, potentially show
enough excitement and 

1188
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,600
explosiveness he could. 
Easily do what Kamara did last 

1189
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,200
year too, going in a very 
similar range for different 

1190
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,880
reasons, albeit, but partly 
because of that age glyph 

1191
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,320
concern. 
I say that as someone who has 

1192
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,720
not clicked Austin Eckler once 
though, so I have not put my. 

1193
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,360
Money where my mouth is. 
It's more for me, the risk on 

1194
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,080
Robinson. 
Where where are you at with 

1195
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,240
Eckler's impact on Robinson's 
value, Pat? 

1196
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:47,520
I mean, Eckler was not sought 
after in free agency in a year 

1197
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,640
where a bunch of other running 
backs were surprisingly sought 

1198
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,360
after. 
I think, you know, the Kamara 

1199
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,920
thing is basically he survived 
last year because they're like 

1200
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,840
we don't have anyone else. 
We're just going to give you 

1201
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,640
kind of all of it. 
Almost like he was sort of Devin

1202
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,040
Singletary in kind of a way that
they throw to him more, but like

1203
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,000
that sort of you're the best 
option and we trust you, so 

1204
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,120
you're just going to play every 
down. 

1205
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,160
It's tough for Ekler to have 
that role because he's new to 

1206
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,840
the team and Brian Robinson has 
been kind of that guy as an 

1207
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,360
early down dude. 
So I think Robinson's role is 

1208
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,120
probably pretty secure in the 
the early down to down capacity.

1209
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,960
Heckler had a really, really bad
success rate last year. 

1210
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,240
Jerry Judy Dallas backs Zach 
Charbonne Oh. 

1211
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,480
My God, Zeke's going this high 
now. 

1212
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,720
I would. 
Probably do Judy or Sharps here.

1213
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,120
Thoughts. 
Yeah, I think. 

1214
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,480
Is there rookie running backs we
can grab after we talked about 

1215
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,840
them a bunch? 
Are there other? 

1216
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,920
Sharp or Dallas back, I think is
the move. 

1217
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,160
I didn't, Yeah, there was a 
little confusion, so I just 

1218
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,960
grabbed sharps there. 
Will you just click on RB real 

1219
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:52,720
quick? 
Who's. 

1220
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,640
It's kind of like the next pick 
range will be a nice one, 

1221
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,200
although I don't mind if we 
wanted to reach for one are. 

1222
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,440
You guys in a Dowdle? 
I've been taking Dowdle a lot. 

1223
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,320
I yeah, I would actually hammer 
him at a cheaper ADP than Zeke. 

1224
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,120
I mean, I think you have to bet 
on Zeke. 

1225
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,600
Not really be. 
I mean, I understand the the 

1226
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,520
touchdown thesis and he'll get 
the deference from the Cowboys, 

1227
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,880
but. 
The only thing is like, yeah, 

1228
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,400
and I think, yeah, we'll we'll 
have some wide receivers we like

1229
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,720
if we're comfortable still with 
just this 5 here. 

1230
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,760
Who are we bad? 
Who went? 

1231
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,240
Dowdle went. 
Sorry, my bad, my bad, Judy 

1232
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,440
Dowdle went. 
So we have to make a a different

1233
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,520
decision here. 
We can do a rookie wide 

1234
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,360
receiver, Piersall Leggett. 
That's probably be Leggett. 

1235
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,120
I don't know. 
We could also just grab. 

1236
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,280
Jalen Wright, who probably 
doesn't come back. 

1237
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,760
Yeah, I'd be good if that too. 
We need the running back up 

1238
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,040
side, I think more than wide 
receiver. 

1239
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,880
We'll be able to hit running 
back up side next pick, OK. 

1240
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,720
I think it's close. 
I mean, with five wide receivers

1241
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:58,240
and two of them are rookies, 
Dave Montgomery, Brian Robinson,

1242
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,160
Zach Charbonnet, I think. 
I think it's pretty close. 

1243
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,720
I I just think like I feel way 
better about some of these 

1244
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,160
rookie running backs coming up 
than I think I do about like 

1245
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,400
that next tier of wide 
receivers. 

1246
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,920
Yeah, all right. 
I think that was structurally 

1247
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,840
fine. 
There's always fun running back 

1248
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,000
picks. 
That's the rule there are. 

1249
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Yeah, that's true, Yeah. 
Leggette's not like super fun, 

1250
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,000
but he's gonna run routes. 
They took him in the first round

1251
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,080
like he's a he's got draft 
capital. 

1252
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,640
He's gonna play a lot. 
He's got a lot of athleticism. 

1253
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,720
He's a fun. 
I mean, I I guess I I said he's 

1254
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,160
not fun And then I make I I 
actually think he's like really 

1255
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:36,920
fun. 
It's just is Bryce Young good 

1256
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,080
enough? 
But like Leggette in the 12th 

1257
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,960
round, dude like big athletic 
monster that's gonna run a ton 

1258
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,200
of routes and he's gonna have 
some usable weeks from there. 

1259
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,040
Mm hmm. 
Yeah, no, he's definitely 

1260
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:53,440
intriguing first. 
I mean, it's about it in all 

1261
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,600
formats. 
It's about as cheap as you're 

1262
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,640
ever going to find a first round
wide receiver, which is pretty 

1263
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,680
interesting given how we're 
pricing up everybody. 

1264
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,120
And by the Pierce I do it man 
Piersol. 

1265
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,520
Yeah, well, Piersol's. 
I mean, I like, I like taking 

1266
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,920
Piersol. 
Just as like, I don't know 

1267
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,800
what's going to happen on New 
Year's Day next year kind of 

1268
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,160
pick. 
But I but I know the 49ers are 

1269
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,920
gonna be an offense. 
I want a piece of that's like 

1270
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,160
the whole Yeah, that's it. 
But people, you can't make the 

1271
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,920
the routes case I just made for 
Leggett, you can't make for. 

1272
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,280
You can't. 
But no, you can't. 

1273
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,840
There's like it's a really hard 
case to make other than like 

1274
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,800
49ers good January 1st, far 
away. 

1275
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,920
And Piersall will like as the 
summer progresses and no trade 

1276
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,480
happens, Piersall will get 
cheaper, right? 

1277
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,720
Like more non rookie chasers 
will be in drafts. 

1278
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,360
They'll do the same thing that 
they're doing with Jalen Wright.

1279
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,800
Don't like this depth chart and 
and he'll slip a bit. 

1280
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,520
I think we want to be pretty 
overweight on Piersall. 

1281
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,400
If he falls to like the 15th 
round like that, I think he's 

1282
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,960
he's. 
I brought him up, 'cause you 

1283
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:02,560
said the the leggette point 
about a first round receiver 

1284
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,080
going this late, and I mean 
Piersall went a pick before 

1285
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,440
leggette, right? 
Like. 

1286
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,520
Although I think in well maybe 
because I'm in these leagues but

1287
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,560
I've been I've I've taken a lot 
over Piersall in dynasty. 

1288
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,880
Ricky Pearsall to me is one of 
the biggest lay UPS in dynasty 

1289
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,080
that we're going to get first 
round wide receiver on the 

1290
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,680
49ers. 
They just tried to trade the two

1291
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,520
guys ahead of him all offseason.
Guess what's going to happen 

1292
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,880
next year. 
One of them's gone that's how 

1293
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,920
that's going to go. 
So you're you're talking about 

1294
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,720
Ricky Pearsall ascending into an
every down roll on the 49ers as 

1295
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,320
as a previous first round pick. 
I I think a mid second is not 

1296
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,320
going to do it if you go to the 
guy next year. 

1297
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,360
Hey Ricky Pearsall, I'll give 
you the two O 5. 

1298
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,640
He's going to be like go find 
yourself. 

1299
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,360
That's that's how that's gonna 
go. 

1300
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,720
So if you could take Ricky for 
yourself to 205 now, I would, I 

1301
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,680
would do that. 
Yeah. 

1302
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,800
All right, here's the squad we 
got the 2361 Kyler and Jaynet 

1303
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,440
quarterback Dan Montgomery, 
Brian Robinson, Zach Chardonnay 

1304
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,600
at running back. 
Wide receivers Garrett Wilson, 

1305
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,840
Marvin Harrison, Junior 
Tinkdale, Terry Mccloren, Rome 

1306
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,480
Adoonze, Xavier Leggett and 
Travis Kelsey. 

1307
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,120
Still holding it down for us at 
tight end. 

1308
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,120
Do we have to? 
Do we have options at tight end?

1309
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,640
What kind of we just got to 
wait? 

1310
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,680
Tenon, it's it's a Kelsey or bus
team. 

1311
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,680
That's fine. 
Well. 

1312
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,560
There's a very, very obvious 
pick that I'm. 

1313
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,240
Just. 
Talking about other stuff, we 

1314
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,120
might. 
Want to? 

1315
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:29,440
Do it soon though. 
Yeah, it's just if there's 

1316
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,560
anything before the wrap here. 
So we're, yeah, there goes 

1317
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,360
bedsit it would pick ahead of 
us. 

1318
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:35,840
Yeah, I was going to. 
No. 

1319
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,280
Yes. 
Yeah. 

1320
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,920
Oh no, it was. 
It was here or bus, but he 

1321
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:40,680
didn't even. 
Get here. 

1322
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,360
I mean, not pushing him around 
the wrap is what I meant. 

1323
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,000
Oh yeah. 
About. 

1324
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,520
The guys, guys, I think. 
I think it's an answer here. 

1325
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,240
Yeah, it's Fidel. 
We should take by OK all. 

1326
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,800
Right, let's do it. 
Get some touches. 

1327
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,400
Yeah. 
Let's get some upside, get some 

1328
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,640
late season upside. 
We talked about how we're going 

1329
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,960
to find a dude who's who's going
to unlock this team. 

1330
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,040
I mean, he's. 
Can we draft one guy who runs 

1331
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,240
faster than a four 640? 
No, because Bucky Irving's are 

1332
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,880
not expected. 
He does not run faster than. 

1333
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:16,600
That, yes, the the Kyle Pitts 
drafter, of course, drafting Ben

1334
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,880
Sinnett. 
Man. 

1335
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,240
Yeah, I didn't know he was like.
Going that high, when you said 

1336
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,160
the obvious PIC thing, I was 
like, Oh yeah, that makes 

1337
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,600
perfect sense. 
Bucky. 

1338
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,920
Yeah, or Musgrave if you want to
hit tight end a different way 

1339
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,640
right now. 
I'm not. 

1340
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,800
I'm not a post. 
I I go Bucky, we'll talk about 

1341
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:43,680
hitting these these. 
Rookie. 

1342
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,080
Yeah, yeah, I like it. 
We'll keep pushing. 

1343
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,240
Tight end too. 
We have Kelsey. 

1344
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:54,040
Jacquards come on down. 
That's where I draw the line. 

1345
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,080
Pat already had to pull the car 
over on the highway and let his 

1346
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,680
family know what happened with 
it. 

1347
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,400
Pete, you you teased the South 
American wood thing, Pat. 

1348
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,600
I really enjoyed reading that. 
That was a that was a fun story 

1349
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,320
to learn about. 
Yeah, thanks guys. 

1350
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,320
Yeah, it's funny. 
It was a fun article to write 

1351
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,760
because I was like, first of 
all, I mean, you're like, you 

1352
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,680
know, 500 words deep. 
And I'm still talking about the 

1353
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,800
rainforest. 
So I thought I enjoyed the the 

1354
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,440
natural confusion that would 
have saved. 

1355
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,640
I had someone go, I had to 
triple check. 

1356
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,080
I was reading the right 
newsletter. 

1357
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,040
Oh. 
But also it just sounds like. 

1358
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,200
And by the way, I'm referencing 
an article it's Bri on Legendary

1359
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,640
upside. 
Check it out. 

1360
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,520
I'm gonna check it out. 
The Tree of Jacquard. 

1361
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,640
But it's a it's a story about 
this, this real tree they found 

1362
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,720
in the rainforest of Central 
America in 1965 that they 

1363
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,120
chopped down wrong and fell into
a ravine for a decade. 

1364
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,000
And then, like someone went and 
checked it out and like trucked 

1365
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,120
it out and it became this 
extremely rare tonewood that is 

1366
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,360
now like basically the the 
rarest tonewood on earth. 

1367
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,960
So obviously, naturally, I 
compared it to an 18th round 

1368
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:13,000
hit. 
The the had you, were you 

1369
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:17,360
familiar with this story 
previously or were you stumbling

1370
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,720
upon this more recently and then
was like, wow, I see the 

1371
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:24,560
similarities. 
It kind of started with So I was

1372
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,080
I've been kind of poking around 
looking at guitars and you know,

1373
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,920
you look at guitars and then 
you're like, what's the like 

1374
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,160
kind of the better version of 
this was it? 

1375
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,800
And then I kind of was like, Oh 
my God, like you could actually 

1376
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,080
cause the crazy thing is you can
order like a new guitar. 

1377
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,480
This tree was huge, just again 
found in the 1965, didn't even 

1378
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,440
start getting used to make 
guitars until the 80s, but 

1379
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,960
that's the 80s. 
They're making guitar with one 

1380
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,520
tree, but they're still like 
fresh, you know, virgin like 

1381
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,160
lumber of this available or 
whatever it's called. 

1382
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:57,200
And you today could order a new 
guitar that had this wood is the

1383
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,960
back and sides. 
There's that much of it. 

1384
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,320
So you know, I'm kind of poking 
around just guys. 

1385
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:03,720
I didn't do this, by the way. 
I didn't. 

1386
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,960
I didn't order it. 
I was like, I won't take care of

1387
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,600
this enough. 
I I can't. 

1388
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,160
I can't order a tree and then 
have it get a crack. 

1389
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,640
Oh, I definitely thought you 
ordered the tree. 

1390
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,280
No, no, I didn't. 
I didn't order the tree. 

1391
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,320
I literally was like this is 
like almost like like it's 

1392
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,240
almost like immoral to to order 
it and then not take care of it 

1393
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,480
properly. 
Like I I won't, I won't take 

1394
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,600
care of it well enough. 
You need to like have this thing

1395
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,000
in a humidified room and 
whatnot. 

1396
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,200
But anyway, so that was kind of,
you know, I'm poking around and 

1397
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,040
looking at looking at fun, way 
too expensive guitars. 

1398
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,480
And then sacrilegious wrote his 
article on Jacquard Similarity 

1399
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,960
And I was basically like, the 
way I'm thinking through player 

1400
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,240
stands is that, like, look, if I
think I have this awesome dude, 

1401
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,000
like I still want to take him a 
ton. 

1402
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,240
But then I'm more thinking about
how do I diversify around that 

1403
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,000
guy and have a portfolio of 
teams around kind of my Breeze 

1404
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,440
Hall stand from last year. 
Like, the thing I regret about 

1405
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,440
that is not that I took way, way
too much Breeze Hall. 

1406
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,640
I probably didn't take enough. 
The thing I regret is that I 

1407
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,880
didn't do a good enough job. 
I did an OK job, but not a good 

1408
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,760
enough job of diversifying 
around. 

1409
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,800
So I have a lot of different 
types of Breeze Hall teams 

1410
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,480
because I'm not as confident 
about what things are going to 

1411
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,680
bubble up around Hall to help 
him get there in the final. 

1412
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,120
I was probably a little too 
concentrated with my secondary 

1413
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,000
bets with that, and that's 
basically what the whole 

1414
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:24,399
article. 
'S about Titans went crazy off 

1415
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:26,240
the board. 
We could make this the theme of 

1416
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:31,720
the show with Tyrone Tracy here.
I think it's our first athletic 

1417
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,479
running back. 
Exactly, I said. 

1418
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:34,800
I have one. 
Let's do it. 

1419
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,160
We got a we got a a guy with a 
little bit of juice. 

1420
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,560
I mean if we want to like look 
down the road at tight end, I 

1421
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,640
mean I do like Noah fan, I 
guess. 

1422
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,520
Yeah, I like Fan a lot. 
I was going to suggest him as 

1423
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:55,680
the pick coming back potentially
right here, like in two picks. 

1424
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,560
Are we, are we on the? 
Clock. 

1425
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,120
Sorry, I I keep forgetting you 
guys can't see up there. 

1426
01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:02,160
Yeah, we're on the clock. 
You good with Noah Fan? 

1427
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,800
Yeah, sacrilegious. 
Noah Fan Speaking of 

1428
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,840
sacrilegious. 
He's gonna run a career higher 

1429
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,520
routes. 
I mean that's it's it's a little

1430
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,760
tricky 'cause there's three good
receivers ahead of him. 

1431
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,279
But I mean, unless you think JS 
NS gonna be a total bust, then 

1432
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:19,760
you're should be even more in on
fan. 

1433
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,279
But even as like the fourth guy 
in the passing, it's like a 

1434
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:25,880
Dalton Schultz type bet at this 
point, you know what I mean? 

1435
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,359
Like. 
You know, I'm, I'm hesitant to 

1436
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:31,640
say this because I don't need 
sacrilege to be any more bullish

1437
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,560
on know if Anthony is. 
But is it a little? 

1438
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,920
Is it a little? 
David and Joku like his career 

1439
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,479
arc. 
Remember when Joku got buried 

1440
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,960
and he was kind of just like in 
a split role And then they're 

1441
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,319
like, no, no, we we're gonna use
him now finally, that he's like 

1442
01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:47,760
27 years old, we decided it's 
time to using Joku. 

1443
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,080
And then they did. 
It's funny how that perception 

1444
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,080
works, right? 
Because when he was drafted, it 

1445
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:58,120
was like, this isn't the next 
athletic freak tight in. 

1446
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,800
All caps, Yes, that's what I've 
been saying. 

1447
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:02,680
Why did I keep that thought to 
myself? 

1448
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,680
But because the fantasy 
production we haven't ever seen 

1449
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,360
like a true breakout or whatever
he went, his connotation in 

1450
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,840
Drafter's mind is bland. 
It's like more like, you know 

1451
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,840
Will Disley, not, you know, 
David Najoku because he hasn't 

1452
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,000
been featured. 
But like, so chaos, Toffee says.

1453
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,480
What about Jared Cook as a, you 
know, late career breakout? 

1454
01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:26,600
Eric Hebron had that too. 
But they changed teams and it's 

1455
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,440
so it's like, weird that he's 
like, back in Seattle, it's 

1456
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:31,560
basically the same situation, 
except he probably runs more 

1457
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,360
routes now that Disley's gone 
and stuff. 

1458
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,040
But like, you're like, well, 
they don't really give a shit 

1459
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,640
about him. 
But like, the Browns did this. 

1460
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,680
The Browns were like, we like 
Austin Hooper more than you for 

1461
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,400
some reason. 
And then two years later, they 

1462
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,600
were like, actually you're we 
care about you now. 

1463
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,520
And I don't know why it's 
happened, but he is still in 

1464
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,600
Seattle. 
But they went with a different 

1465
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,160
offense now, a new coordinator, 
a different scheme. 

1466
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,120
And I mean I think that the new,
I mean new head coach a whole, 

1467
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,480
you know, I mean like they could
come in and be like yeah and and

1468
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:02,160
I think they kind of already did
when they let Disley and Colby 

1469
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,400
Parkinson walk. 
They're like we don't see tight 

1470
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,320
end the way the last regime saw 
tight end the last regime in 

1471
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,240
Seattle was like Will Disley. 
We're paying him a lot of money 

1472
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,560
like every year to just like 
make sure that we have a tight 

1473
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,880
end 2 for some reason which 
always limited fans routes. 

1474
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,640
But like this is now a situation
where they could for the first 

1475
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:28,240
time actually be the sole tight 
end and pretty nice. 

1476
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,080
He's never bet he wasn't even 
that in Denver. 

1477
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:35,640
He I mean he never has any. 
I mean he has some decent per 

1478
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,120
route stuff, but it's mostly 
earlier in his career. 

1479
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,880
The one, the one concern would 
be that last year his yards per 

1480
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,960
out run was a career low. 
So it's like well, is he getting

1481
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,640
worse as he gets older? 
But I mean the whole body of 

1482
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,560
work is still OK. 
I mean it's it's competent. 

1483
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,160
It's not bad. 
Yeah, the flip side to this is 

1484
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,480
that he's Herb Smith. 
He he's got, he's been at better

1485
01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:00,960
target earning than Herb Smith 
for the majority of his career. 

1486
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:06,320
Yeah, Herb Smith was like a 15% 
target sprout run guy. 

1487
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,120
No offence wasn't was down to 
13% last year but the first four

1488
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,800
years of his career 16 + 3 years
in a row was 18 plus. 

1489
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,200
Like he's actually shown like 
some that's like decent for a 

1490
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,480
tight end. 
Those are good target rate per, 

1491
01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:26,160
you know, per route numbers. 
Can I interest you guys in a QB 

1492
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:31,160
three stacked up with our first 
round pick at price 2O350 plus 

1493
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,680
picks past ATP? 
Nobody's drafted Aaron Rodgers. 

1494
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,400
Nobody's. 
Drafted. 

1495
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,120
Aaron Yeah, fuck it. 
Let's take him. 

1496
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,120
Yeah, we got 2 mobile 
quarterbacks. 

1497
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,120
Either of those guys could get 
banged up and miss some time, 

1498
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,280
and we need Rodgers to help us. 
We're. 

1499
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,400
Just Rodgers has a spike week 
that's tied to Garrett that gets

1500
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:47,920
us through. 
Yeah. 

1501
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,840
Yeah, that. 
I was just thinking like we 

1502
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,680
could get Daniels or Kyler 
through low owned with by adding

1503
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,040
Rogers. 
At this point, that's another. 

1504
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:56,880
Thing that. 
That's another. 

1505
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:57,680
Yeah. 
Let's do it. 

1506
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,560
Yeah. 
OK, and then we can figure out 

1507
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,640
what we want to do. 
Running back or wide receiver. 

1508
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,360
We have 6 wide receivers, 6 
running backs. 

1509
01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:12,080
Jalen McMillan. 
Is dorch here? 

1510
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,320
Dorch. 
Went I I saw that I I know. 

1511
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,840
He's perfect for this shit. 
Yep. 

1512
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,240
Do we? 
We don't have a good stack ad in

1513
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:22,880
here. 
Dotson and those guys are all 

1514
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,680
gone. 
McCaffrey is McCaffrey. 

1515
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,040
Here Alan Lazard. 
Mccaffrey's long gone, yeah. 

1516
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,640
Yeah, McMillan or or Rondell 
more I think are the ones that I

1517
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,400
would. 
All right, we'll go with 

1518
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,200
McMillan. 
Grab another rookie here and we 

1519
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,880
had taken Bucky. 
Get a pair of bucks here. 

1520
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,440
Yeah, the Yeah, so Rogers. 
I mean, I've seen Rogers fall. 

1521
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,200
You know, 2025 picks. 
I haven't seen him fall 56 

1522
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,880
picks. 
That's pretty crazy. 

1523
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:54,680
All right. 
This team's in the books. 3672 

1524
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,480
build. 
Kyler, Jayden Daniels and Aaron 

1525
01:13:56,480 --> 01:13:59,560
Rodgers. 6 running backs, 0 RB 
room. 

1526
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,360
David Montgomery, Bryan Robinson
Junior Zach Charbonnet. 

1527
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,760
Kamani Vidal, Bucky Irving, 
Tyrone Tracy. 

1528
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,160
Just realized that. 
Noah Phant. 

1529
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,400
Zach Sharp's little pairing 
there as well. 

1530
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,120
Wide receivers Garrett Wilson, 
Marvin Harrison, Junior Tank 

1531
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,920
Del, Terry Maclaurin, Roma 
doonese Xavier Leggett and Jalen

1532
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,560
McMillan. 
Tight end Travis Kelsey and Noah

1533
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,720
Fan. 
Very young at at wide receiver, 

1534
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,040
but I think this team is pretty 
fun. 

1535
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,200
It is fun. 
We got the the rookie. 

1536
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:27,520
There's a theme of the show 
tonight. 

1537
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,520
We got, we got those rookie 
running backs. 

1538
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,560
We used it to unlock an early 
tight end, pick some some some 

1539
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,640
wide receiver firepower on the 
early rounds. 

1540
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,160
It's a. 
It's a coherent and pretty fun 

1541
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:41,480
build. 
Yeah. 

1542
01:14:42,440 --> 01:14:47,880
We got a Pete last week you were
asking for people to throw up 

1543
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,120
ship chasing at work. 
We got a video of they weren't 

1544
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,480
able to get ship chasing up or a
a a picture on Twitter. 

1545
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:59,960
They weren't able to get ship 
chasing up, but they got a a row

1546
01:14:59,960 --> 01:15:05,600
Joe because of restrictions he 
couldn't get ship chasing but he

1547
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,520
he went ahead and threw some 
clips up over Ojo. 

1548
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,560
Yes. 
That's way. 

1549
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,280
Better. 98 yards of the House of
the past, yes. 

1550
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,080
This is so good. 
Let me get this here so shout 

1551
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,080
out to to Vince here. 
I couldn't pull up ship chasing 

1552
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,080
at work due to restrictions, but
I was able to grind some tape. 

1553
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,240
One of the best running backs 
you can see. 

1554
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,080
Like, I mean, this is the most 
corporate America conference 

1555
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,280
room I've ever seen, and it is 
Ronald Jones. 

1556
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,760
It's about to take it. 
To the house 98 Love it. 

1557
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,240
To the fucking house. 
Shout out Vince, DM me your 

1558
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,640
e-mail and I'll get you a ship 
chasing gift card here. 

1559
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:48,000
Well done 1st 1st Thursday 
afternoon show in the books. 

1560
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,280
While we were on the air I got a
message from Leone. 

1561
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,200
He said if you guys ever want a 
fourth for ship chasing, 

1562
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,480
Thursday at 3:00 PM Eastern is 
my jam. 

1563
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:57,440
So we might be opening up a 
different Ave. for possible 

1564
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:02,840
guests, not be it at at night. 
We should take advantage of that

1565
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,400
'cause we're going back tonight.
This is just a little summer 

1566
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,520
summer vacation for us to go on 
during the day. 

1567
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,040
Yeah, do some dad life. 
Like I said, once we get to 

1568
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,520
August, the marquee draft 
streams, ship cast in season, 

1569
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,720
all that good stuff. 
We'll be back at night, but 

1570
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,520
enjoying freeing up our evenings
here. 

1571
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,960
Definitely need to check out 
Pat's article about the trees 

1572
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,880
and also goad him into buying 
one of these guitars telling me 

1573
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:27,960
he doesn't have enough money. 
He's. 

1574
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:29,880
Too don't go, please don't goad 
me into by the. 

1575
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,440
Way pat. 
The only thing that would be 

1576
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:38,080
better if you doing like an 
update to the Rojo parody song 

1577
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,200
but singing out like first 
trying your portfolio with a 

1578
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,200
fucking you know one of the 
whatever that tree would is 

1579
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:45,240
called I. 
Mean. 

1580
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,880
It's called the tree. 
That's how good. 

1581
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,160
You gotta buy the. 
Tree. 

1582
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,120
Pat, what's the point of being 
rich if you can't have things 

1583
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,600
that other people can't have? 
Like, I mean like you're gonna 

1584
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,080
this is like the most famous 
tree ever. 

1585
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,320
Outside a kitchen's tree, it is.
It is easily. 

1586
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:00,840
Don't think it didn't cross my 
mind. 

1587
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:07,400
Hey, got a new guitar. 
It's it's the rarest wood I 

1588
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:11,120
could find on the entire planet.
I know we just had a kid, but 

1589
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,480
this is an investment. 
I had to just go ahead and buy 

1590
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,240
guitar, the rarest tonewood on 
the earth. 

1591
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,400
The other thing I'm picturing is
like the way you know DFS guys 

1592
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,880
will buy the jersey of a player 
on their team on their winning 

1593
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,520
team is like Pat. 
You get this guitar, but you put

1594
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,280
like little decals or of like 
Breece Hall and then all the 

1595
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,800
players you diversified around 
him snickered on to it and hang 

1596
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,520
it over your background. 
Decals on this. 

1597
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:37,720
Wood little breeze hall. 
That's. 

1598
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,840
What I'm saying you can't put. 
Desecrated the tree. 

1599
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,640
What was the price you showed 
the actual screenshot from the 

1600
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,880
like where you could buy it and 
it was it was 5 figures. 

1601
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:56,120
Yeah, no, it's $25,000 on, 
$26,000 on sale with $7000 off. 

1602
01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:58,720
The other thing is I play 
left-handed, so I would, in 

1603
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,320
order to get one of these 
guitars, I'd have to like 

1604
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,400
special order it from. 
So that's it would be more 

1605
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,640
expensive than that. 
Do a pussy. 

1606
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:16,520
We're all thinking it. 
Gretch, everyone needs to check 

1607
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,080
out your new post on stealing 
signals. 

1608
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,520
Anything else in your guitar 
neck of the woods? 

1609
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,360
No, I I don't know anything 
about guitars. 

1610
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:26,720
I only get my guitar 
information. 

1611
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,400
We got Jeff Flake. 
Jeff Flake It says Pinball 

1612
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,840
Wizard was recorded with this 
guitar and I'll now use it to 

1613
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,600
play a song about Cadillac 
Williams 2006, Week 14. 

1614
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,840
Oh man, yeah, Brittany will be 
legendarily upset. 

1615
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,720
By the. 
Legendary Downside and Legendary

1616
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:50,440
Upset. 
Sorry, anything else we're 

1617
01:18:50,440 --> 01:18:52,840
asking for you? 
No stealing bananas. 

1618
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,360
Yeah, more stuff coming at at 
stealing signals. 

1619
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,640
Same I. 
Do I do have some some plugs to 

1620
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,720
say before we go check out the 
podcast we did with Shady 

1621
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:04,800
Advice. 
Shady Advice, joined the 

1622
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,640
legendary Upside team, which I 
think it's very exciting 

1623
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:11,080
development for the site. 
And then we we do still have 

1624
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,120
some of the $50 credits left. 
If you're on the fence of 

1625
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:14,960
whether or not to sign up for 
the yearly subscription, you can

1626
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,320
get a $50 hundred dollar credit.
Also, renewal credits went out 

1627
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,360
first batch went out if you are.
If you signed up last year, you 

1628
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:26,920
renew your subscription 25 
dollar $100 credit for for you 

1629
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,360
and just need your username. 
So if you got the 50 last year, 

1630
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:31,760
I have your username, you're 
just going to get it 

1631
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,640
automatically. 
Beautiful for me. 

1632
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,560
If you want to check out that 
video reverse engineering a 

1633
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,160
draft, I actually did a Jaden 
Daniels backdoor double stack 

1634
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,800
with that one. 
I thought that was a fun 

1635
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,840
exercise over on the Deposit 
Kingdom channel. 

1636
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,680
And then tomorrow morning I'm 
dropping the update to the week 

1637
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,240
17 as all that matters have been
in the lab all this week 

1638
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,240
wrapping my head around the new 
price structure and how that 

1639
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,480
could potentially impact which 
weeks we want to optimize for 

1640
01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:01,520
more than others. 
So I think you guys will enjoy 

1641
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:02,920
that. 
That'll be on the Deposit 

1642
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,800
Kingdom YouTube channel. 
In the morning. 

1643
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,720
All right guys. 
Thank you for hanging out on 

1644
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,760
this afternoon, throwing us on 
at your your office conference 

1645
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,280
rooms, all of that good stuff 
for Ben, for Pat, I'm Pete. 

1646
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:16,920
We'll see you guys next time on 
ship chasing.