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Playoff week rolls on here at 
Ship Chasing. 

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We got a fun hodgepodge show 
tonight. 

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We're going to catch up on some 
of the latest news maybe 

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impacting our play over the 
weekend. 

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We got some updated ownership 
projections from Pat, who's been

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in the lab on that. 
Then we got a couple of special 

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guests. 
We got Draco, who plays a ton on

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FFPC, has a great mind for the 
contest over there. 

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We'll get some of his thoughts. 
You guys know him from Stat 

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Chasing and then Chris G, a 
former gauntlet winner. 

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He has been deep in the lab in 
the underdog streets. 

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And so we'll also dip our toes 
and some of the playoff best 

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ball over there tonight. 
I'm Pete with Gretch, Pat and 

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our guests. 
It's ship chasing. 

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Let's do it. 
Pat Fryer, Helmo This. 

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Is what? 
This is what? 

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I'm hot. 
Anita hand job. 

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Fix your sight. 
Jamar. 

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Alpha play Chase. 
You can't handle the heat. 

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See, it looks like we're finally
at this point here, right? 

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All right, here we go. 
Right before the show, we were 

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just saying last time G was on, 
he was hosting Daigle and you 

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guys were in different rooms of 
your house for our Thanksgiving 

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show. 
And I think you both were 

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slamming whiskey, if I recall 
frankly. 

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Whiskey, you know, the whole 
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I think at the end of the night 
we switched to Rome and I drunk 

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called Pat a little bit. 
Talk about Yeah, OK, Yeah. 

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Remember, yeah, I got a call 
from Chris. 

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I actually think this is a 
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Chris called, I was, hey man, 
what's going on? 

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Like. 
Putting a baby to bed, bro. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
We got Draco popping in. 

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What is up? 
Draco, hey, how's it going? 

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Sorry, sorry I'm late. 
No, it's it's. 

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All real and professionally. 
Yeah. 

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What's not the? 
First time I came on ship 

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chasing I was like fucking like 
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chat. 
That's what I'm. 

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Like a professional view. 
Yeah, but what? 

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What are you doing? 
We have we have a rule here at 

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Ship Chasing where we say, you 
know, for our shows, if you're 

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not here in the stream yard 
hopper 10 minutes early, you're 

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late. 
You are looking very dapper 

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tonight. 
You look like you're a physics 

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professor or something. 
Pullover sweater and your 

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glasses. 
It looks very nice. 

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Thank you. 
Thank you. 

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I was, I was in Ann Arbor for 
for tenant interviews, helping 

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helping our our buyer interview 
our our tenants. 

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So I have to look professional 
when it looked like we're we're 

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a legitimate company that we're 
selling. 

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We sell good centers. 
Well, and now you're finally 

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bringing some legitimacy to our 
playoff best. 

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We appreciate you, Gretsch. 
How we doing tonight? 

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Good, good. 
I recorded a pod with Sean 

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earlier today about the FFPC 
contest. 

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Nobody wants to check that out. 
And yeah, talked to him for like

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a few hours about it. 
I'm kind of seagull peeled right

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now, but yeah, it's pretty fun. 
Does he have it? 

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Will he have any teams with Bo 
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His first team they showed me 
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Smith and Jordan Addison, and I 
was like, I think that's enough 

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pivots, OK? 
What's the zoomer opto right 

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there? 
No, there's there's the zoomer 

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opto, that fan. 
What do we need for? 

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For Siegel, Opto. 
Yeah, the the wizard opto or 

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something. 
Man, that is hilarious. 

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Pat, how have you been? 
I know you've been tweaking and 

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fine tuning the ownership 
projections throughout the day. 

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Yeah, I have. 
I did. 

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Like I said, I yesterday I, I 
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kind of my feel for the defense 
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years. 
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I was looking at the ETR 
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kicker and trying to figure out 
kind of where like like the each

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team like how strong their 
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defense. 
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defence is relative to the one 
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relative to the to the field. 
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bit on where I think the chalk 
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people like people are going to 
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whatever they think the best 
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So did a little deeper dive on 
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got me more on the Texans. 
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Pete, that being a soft fade 
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the defense bowl. 
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really occurred to me is that 
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year that, you know, won people 
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in multiple games. 
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there's there's a little bit the
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probably have that more top of 
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So little pivot there. 
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around as well. 
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up being kind of chalky. 
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and a great play. 
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Field has caught up that he's 
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Team Yeah, the field, the field 
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Other thing that field was ahead
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You think the the field's like 
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listening to some of the other 
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that the Texans D was optimal in
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really in the weeds with this 
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that. 
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listened to like a ton of 
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Listen to the to to Bulky's pod 
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I was just listening to the Theo
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There's like, you know, I've 
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Jacob Sanderson had an Oracle 
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Oracle. 
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get like, give me your thoughts,
give me your thoughts and and 

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try to understand like where the
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But like Houston wasn't just a 
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They were like on the winning 
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So I I don't know, I mean, it's 
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but like looking at their kicker
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And then also I reached out to 
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rules for defense. 
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the site hadn't been updated 
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It's updated now. 
So you want more of a low 

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scoring game environment than 
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And I think that makes the 
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appealing where like people are 
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Broncos defense or the Packers 
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I mean, it's so enticing to play
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Stroud when he's been so bad for
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I don't know, right? 
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I. 
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a Texan, which I don't think is 
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Right. 
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Yeah, Nico will get. 
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Nico versus Mixon is not going 
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Everyone's going to be on what? 
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It just it's additional level. 
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more than 10 points, you was 
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now it's -2 so it just matters 
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Like a 2 point shift across the 
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No, because there's additional 
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get points. 
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Yeah, I'll pull it up. 
That's a pretty big change. 

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Yeah, it's a meaningful change. 
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So now it's. 
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$200 FFPC 1 is arguing right now
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actually take Terry or a 
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And I'm like, guys, the game 
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Let's get both of them. 
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a a great little time just 
discussing it out, just chatting

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away at this. 
It's a fun contest. 

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Before you got eight points for 
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points between 7:00 and 10:00 
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Now it's that is remains, but 
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from 20 to 23, zero for 24 to 
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three points on a couple of the 
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It doesn't seem that meaningful 
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I think that's being overplayed.
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like five times this weekend and
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outcomes where it shifts at like
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You still want past tense 
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up the six sack games with three
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Those are the ones with big 
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I agree with you, but it it does
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comment on the show about it. 
It does seem like, you know, you

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know, that thing where you feel 
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like something new that maybe it
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then you want to weight it even 
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It does sound like something 
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Over what? 
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What Yeah, there's two 
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I think 1 is how are people 
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is how should we play it? 
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of randomizing DA little bit, 
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this in. 
They're over planet. 

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Got it. 
Yeah, So we're going to we're 

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going to bounce around a little 
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Let's start just macro. 
We've had a few different news 

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things since we last were on the
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When we were here on Tuesday, 
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protocol. 
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So full steam ahead with all the
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I believe Zay Flowers was 
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There was a surprise one with 
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Joshua Palmer was ruled out. 
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FFPC contest but QJ now in and 
JK Dobbins was questionable 

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which I think was a little bit 
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Are there any other news notes 
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today? 
Yeah, A.J. 

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Brown was questionable, but they
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But they he didn't practice 
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That's just one thing I noted. 
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for Houston I think might be 
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check that though. 
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So pretty, pretty clean on the 
injury front there. 

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Pat, were there any other big 
ownership tweaks? 

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You made it sound like a lot of 
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defense. 
Are you bringing up Hertz now 

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that he's officially? 
Yeah, I brought up Hertz today. 

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He just, I had him too low. 
You know, I it's always tough 

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when you don't know if the guys 
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not. 
So sort of a holdover or like a 

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whole. 
It was in holding pattern with 

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with Hertz, but now I have him 
up at 12, which is still not 

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super high and I think makes him
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But it's like hard for me to 
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I guess I could somewhat, I 
could be wrong and people don't 

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play Lamar as much as I have it,
but I haven't also heard a ton 

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of enthusiasm for Hertz because 
everyone wants to play Barkley. 

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I mean, Barkley is such a smash.
So, but yeah, I, I had him like 

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at 9 and I brought him up to 12 
and I might make him, might move

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him up a little more than that, 
but I think he settles around 

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that range. 
Yeah, he is a great what do you 

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win when you win pick where like
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percentage of their touchdowns. 
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Who's that? 
Hertz. 

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Hertz. 
Hertz Yeah. 

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Yeah, and I, I was talking about
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with Pat and Leone a little. 
But I for me, sure, a lot of 

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people have come around to it 
like chat saying 12% hurts as 

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high though. 
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at. 
I was like, no one's going to 

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want to play Hurts. 
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from the perspective of we're 
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gap his teammates. 
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scenarios where Henry or Mark 
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Main point I'm getting at is 
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two mobile dual threat, high 
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to score play three games in 
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first round and the other would 
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which is the sort of parlay that
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to not play three games. 
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upset. 
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little, but we may not get that 
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But Hurts on the NFC side. 
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the same team that they were 
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tournament. 
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People are in on to some degree.
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game at home. 
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the Eagles just sort of 
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Championship. 
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beat two teams at home. 
They're a good enough team to do

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that. 
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what I'm saying is we're talking
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these dual threat, high scoring 
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they're going to be optimal. 
But Hertz is like by seed lined 

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up to, to play three games and 
gets all these tush pushes and 

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could be a guy who rushes for 
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because they're going to go with
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line. 
They're going to mess around and

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try and get Barkley touchdowns. 
They're going to do the thing 

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they always do. 
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beat the Lions and go play four 
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could be achieved. 
Eagles like to me, Hertz is not 

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a very different play from Allen
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certainly the Saquon element 
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Hertz could be the QB. 
There's a lot of ways that I 

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wasn't talking about. 
Hertz could be the QB. 

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And even at 12%, like you're 
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Saquon and Lamar being like 1.4 
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Henry. 
So that's what you're getting 

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like really nice leverage there 
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And then you're kind of like, 
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that's your Super Bowl, right? 
Like it's a 2V2 where you're in 

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the Super Bowl with Hertz and 
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and Barkley. 
But it could be that you're in 

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the Super Bowl with Hertz and 
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You know, like there's there's 
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the problem with Hertz, I think 
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Like I don't want Hertz and Cook
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That doesn't feel fun to me. 
You kind of need to but get beat

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by the Ravens. 
But they could also lose the 

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Your ideal is they lose to the 
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Chiefs and. 
Barkley has to get shut down a 

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little like Hertz has to get 
those Rush TV's, which directly 

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impacts Barkley and he has to 
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It's not. 
It's not as easy as I'm making 

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it out to be, but it is pretty. 
Logical. 

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I think the Ravens can make the 
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saying he doesn't think it can 
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I think it can be right. 
I think Bills are really. 

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I just disagree with that. 
You, I, you can't have the 

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Bills, the Ravens make the Super
Bowl is way too confident. 

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I know Colin's been in here 
every night this week mentioning

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dropping a little bit that he 
won last year. 

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He'd like us to let him know 
that, let everyone know that he 

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won last year. 
He's he's the defending champ 

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right now. 
We got to give Colin his props. 

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But I that's, that is way too 
precise in my opinion. 

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There's a lot of this contest 
can go. 

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Yeah, I I generally agree with 
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I just don't. 
I just think Henry, like, why do

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I need to have Henry instead of 
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Henry in in a Ravens run to the 
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getting fed. 
He's going to be going off. 

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He, he had more rush yards ever 
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Dude had an incredible year. 
So yeah, why can't I? 

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Why can't I have Henry? 
Henry over over Lamar Barkley. 

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That's not like even I'm not 
stretching the imagination. 

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Run the touchdowns. 
Yeah, I yeah, right. 

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That's like a 4555 thing. 
Yeah, totally. 

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Can I pick your guys's brain? 
Can I pick your guys brain? 

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Like I got you here? 
We're talking about NSC Eagles, 

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but let's talk about the real 
NSC team that's going to make 

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the Super Bowl, the Detroit 
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Is Jameson Williams a good play 
in this contest or do you got to

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stick with ARSB or Gibbs? 
I I got to. 

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Know I think it's tight end 
premium. 

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You're also Laporta gets you off
massive Kelsey chalk. 

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So jamo 2 gal brain I think. 
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Gal brain, I think he's a little
gal brain too, because you can 

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get Alman raw. 
You're probably going to get 

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Alman raw at like 30% Max. 
I don't know where you have him 

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right now, Pat. 
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I have him higher I because I've
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Montgomery's back. 
I don't know if you guys heard 

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he's back. 
Dane Campbell loves to run the 

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ball. 
He's going to get that. 

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So way more than I thought. 
I think Hassan and Blair were 

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were arguing Alman raw was the 
chalk. 

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I still think Gibbs comes in 
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closer. 
Gibbs is the state where like 

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even when Monty was playing he 
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whereas you you've definitely 
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I think the. 
Yeah, I have 39 Alman raw Gibbs 

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50. 
So I still have Gibbs ahead, but

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I, I just, I before I had like I
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or something. 
And I don't think it'd be that 

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big not. 
To think. 

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Well, I, I Draco, were you 
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Almanac actually scored more 
when Montgomery was in the 

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lineup. 
I, I, I was, I, I didn't mean it

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like that. 
I I meant it more as in like he,

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he, he, his, he had a lot more 
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Gibbs did. 
Whereas like Gibbs had that like

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high floor, just just true to 
the points distribution. 

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Yeah, I I think that's the way 
people will will look at it. 

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I think with those guys, you 
know, we were talking about it 

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with Addison and stuff too. 
I think if you if you play the 

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Lions as a A1 and done loss, 
then like the Jamo plays, you 

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can kind of see it. 
But you know, if they get two 

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games, it's like, can Jamo be 
optimal for the Lions over 2? 

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I guess anything's possible, but
really unlikely. 

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He carries that two games. 
Probably not. 

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Yeah, you probably, you probably
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you're betting on the Vikings, 
go beat them kind of thing. 

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You probably want a commander or
two just in case. 

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Like they win and then go beat 
the Lions which doesn't seem 

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likely. 
That doesn't seem likely, yeah. 

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It does seem likely, but I think
I want I want all the teams live

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to I'm like the Lions are losing
and so I want all the teams that

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could potentially play the Lions
you. 

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Know that makes a lot of sense. 
Yeah, the man, it was wild. 

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I was looking at some of the 
like talking about the Jalen 

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Hurts kind of sentiment. 
And granted, you know, there's 

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not a ton of volume quite yet in
the BR streets, but like, you 

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know, Lamar and Josh Allen are 
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his ADP is like 26. 
Like it there is a lag in 

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people, I think coming around on
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kind of made-up their mind. 
I want to play Allen, I want to 

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play Lamar, and obviously Hertz 
is gonna get played, but I 

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don't. 
I don't sense like crazy steam 

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on him right now. 
I agree, I I just I feel like I 

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had him too low before. 
I feel like optimal would be 

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would be higher like 12%. 
Still feels like he's a really 

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strong play to me. 
No, I do too. 

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I, I, I actually, I like your 
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will come in under or he, he 
very likely will come in under. 

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Why he should be versus either 
guys just because he hasn't 

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played as well. 
So we haven't seen that ceiling 

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and. 
Right. 

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Right. 
It's it's interesting too when 

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you think through like. 
The identity of these teams and 

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Gretsch, I feel like you'd be 
good at talking about this of 

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like, you know, the Lions are 
just going to go pedal the 

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metal. 
They're going to throw the ball 

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no matter what. 
The Ravens will like, modulate 

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their game plan. 
Like it could just be an 

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absolute big dog game against 
the Steelers in a positive game 

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script and then they could get 
in like an up tempo game versus 

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the Bills and then all of a 
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It is interesting. 
Like I feel like the Eagles 

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identity, despite Barkley, is 
still just rolling through 

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Hurts. 
You know, like Gretch said, he's

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going to get the tush pushes. 
Like there is almost like 

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consistency to how you know the 
Eagles games will play out 

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unless Barkley's breaking off a 
75 yard run. 

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Like then that can maybe tilt 
it. 

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But otherwise, I feel like you 
know what you're getting with 

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the Eagles. 
Yeah, and Green Bay has a has a 

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decent defensive line too, 
right. 

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So they could probably stop him 
at the one or two yard line. 

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And there you go, Jalen Hurts 
all day. 

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For sure. 
The Eagles are definitely like 

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that. 
I think they're pretty 

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straightforward. 
I'm sorry, I was a little 

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distracted. 
I got I got to tell Colin real 

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quick. 
I wasn't. 

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I was not trying to bust your 
balls at all, buddy. 

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He's. 
Totally kidding. 

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All right, G talk a little we're
we're gonna bounce around a bit 

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tonight. 
GI know you've been doing a lot 

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of drafts. 
Any things you've been noticing 

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like in the underdog market 
that's interesting to you as far

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as like where there's steam, 
what people are enjoying doing 

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in these, you know, final hours 
of, of drafting? 

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Yeah, the, the biggest thing I 
can take away from this is at 

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the beginning when I started 
this, I was like, oh man, this 

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is way too quick. 
But now I'm praying for those 

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days I mistaken like Lamar, 
Justin Jefferson and all these 

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guys right at the beginning 
because the ADPS were all messed

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up. 
Now I've been leaning more 

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towards taking these tertiary 
pieces at the end. 

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So like, for example, with the 
injury to Zay on your Baltimore 

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teams, you have to take, I feel 
like Mark Andrews at the three, 

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the three O 2. 
Basically, you have to, if not, 

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you're going to get boxed out by
the Derrick Henry, Justin 

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Jefferson guy who's going to 
take the Andrews and possibly 

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Bateman at the same time, and 
then you're out. 

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Then it's just Lamar, Justice 
Hill. 

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And I say likely I mean, but who
knows? 

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Oh, come on, Chris, come on. 
You're not drafting Nelson 

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Aguilar and Thailand Wallace. 
I am, Mitchell. 

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I am. 
Are you? 

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Are you even in the streets? 
I am bro, I am. 

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I like, I like Tyler Wallace a 
lot. 

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Aguilar is probably going to 
have a better role, but it's 

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just you got to click them. 
Cam Akers is a great pick from 

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Minnesota, so you can kind of 
skip over on Aaron Jones and 

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just take Jordan Addison, you 
know? 

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My favorite part of the playoff 
basketball stuff is that, like, 

448
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,040
clicks that initially feel gross
just become like, Oh yeah, Tylen

449
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,760
Wallace, like, come on down. 
Well, that's that's like best 

450
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,000
ball of stuff that happens, 
right. 

451
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,640
We've talked about it like the 
psychology of once you've made a

452
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,120
pick a few times and you've now 
played it out in your head of 

453
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:02,280
like the high end. 
Outcome. 

454
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,640
And they they retroactively 
become stronger picks because 

455
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,040
you've selected them. 
And that's the only reason that 

456
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,920
it's become better. 100%. 
And it's crazy too, man. 

457
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,440
I cannot get a Lamar, Derrick 
Henry team to save my life. 

458
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,520
I was going through all my 
gauntlets and I'm like, oh, I 

459
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,360
got one. 
And guess what? 

460
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,040
I have next to it, Christian 
Watson. 

461
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,720
I'm like, I'm like, I just threw
it. 

462
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,240
I'm like, I guess I'm room for 
the Bills, You know? 

463
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,960
I guess I'm room for the bills. 
Yeah, it's funny though. 

464
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,480
I mean, we always, I mean those 
combos feel good. 

465
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,480
It's like we, we see this ship 
play out over and over. 

466
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,640
It's never the the juiciest GMGM
combos that are are what you 

467
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,040
need to win. 
It's just what makes you feel 

468
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,720
good while you're drafting. 
Yeah, I was in the the $20 DK 

469
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,280
draft yesterday and the guy, the
team's so good. 

470
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,040
I remember his username is 
Dorito. 

471
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:58,280
He had Barkley, Hertz, A.J. 
Brown, Devante. 

472
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,800
He got the whole, the whole 
Eagles. 

473
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,520
And then he had, he got like 
good Chiefs on it, too. 

474
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320
It's it's very tilting the the 
combinations. 

475
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,760
Yeah, he's a he's a locked 
favorite. 

476
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,880
He's a locked favorite if the 
Eagles go all the way for sure. 

477
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,320
Yeah. 
For sure. 

478
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,400
Draco, I, I don't know if you 
got to check out the the Boomer 

479
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,520
Opto show, but do you have any 
kind of takes on what you think 

480
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,080
the market's going to be doing 
in the FFPC stuff, places you 

481
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,960
like to get different? 
Where you where you at with this

482
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,200
contest? 
So the one thing that I've been 

483
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,960
thinking about for the FFPC is, 
and maybe I'm I'm getting a 

484
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,080
hyper specific cure, but one of 
the things that ended up being 

485
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,960
necessary or are very important 
last year was you had a big 

486
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,560
upset in in in Green Bay against
the Cowboys. 

487
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:56,280
And so if you got that upset 
right in having a in in in in 

488
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,480
getting a Green Bay guy and the 
Green Bay guys were were like 

489
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,320
very contrarian and then also 
got off the chalk with Ferguson 

490
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,400
like that. 
Just that like combination leaps

491
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,760
you forward like just in a 
massive, massive way. 

492
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,360
And like I feel I feel like 
that's like something too 

493
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,960
important to keep in mind. 
And I'm I'm in like fully 

494
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,040
fleshed that tot out. 
But just for example, if you're 

495
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,480
taking Pickens, like there, 
there's like a variety of ways 

496
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,640
that that could work. 
It's like either it's like some 

497
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,680
shock upset and like that could 
happen. 

498
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,440
Like it's a very top heavy 
tournament. 

499
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,880
So like if if you're doing 
Pickens, then maybe you're not, 

500
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,200
maybe you shouldn't have Pickens
as as a Lamar team. 

501
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,600
Maybe that your Pickens team 
should be a pivot on on the 

502
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,920
Ravens. 
Just yeah. 

503
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,200
So that if you get that, if you 
get that Pickens pick right, 

504
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,640
then you're amplifying how right
that pick is. 

505
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,080
Yeah. 
Yeah, we talked about that a 

506
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,040
little on Tuesday. 
Pick the the idea of Pickens, 

507
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,120
Allen Andrews as a group, it 
seems like a really fun one. 

508
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,080
I have it on my list of favorite
leverage place that's I think 

509
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,760
it's a really fun combo. 
So I was. 

510
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,640
I'm just. 
Looking, I guess just the idea 

511
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,480
of like if you're picking 
somebody on like a heavy 

512
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,360
underdog, then you should also 
pair it with like a pivot on 

513
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,480
that favorite team or, or, or or
slight fade. 

514
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,080
Yeah. 
Like if you get off Barkley to 

515
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,200
A.J. 
Brown or Devonta Smith, we 

516
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,040
talked about how you might want 
to play Josh Jacobs, you might 

517
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,160
want to leave yourself open to 
the Packers winning outright. 

518
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,280
Cause Barkley in two games with 
three games feels really right. 

519
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,840
I mean, I think Hertz does 
really make sense in in three 

520
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,240
games or four games for the 
Eagles in some scenarios. 

521
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,720
But yeah, if you want to play 
like an A.J. 

522
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,600
Brown, like an A.J. 
Brown, Jacobs is a similar way 

523
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,320
to do what you were just. 
Describing Smith would be the 

524
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,000
hurdles. 
And I think really, yeah. 

525
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,680
I I also like what Jericho's 
hinting at 2 of if you're 

526
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,400
picking a skill position player 
on in a lot of the spots where 

527
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,720
there's going to be chalk soft 
fades or hard fades and how you 

528
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,240
can still be right even if 
you're wrong. 

529
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,920
Like if you play let's say the 
Cortland Sutton thing with Josh,

530
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,600
how most people get a faded or 
whatever. 

531
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,560
Even if the Bills win, if Sutton
has that spike game and everyone

532
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,840
faded hard faded, the Broncos 
and the optimal Bronco to have 

533
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,160
ends up being Sutton. 
Like that is such a huge lever 

534
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,520
to pull and you didn't have to 
nail the upset. 

535
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,320
You just made a pivot off of the
hard fade, which actually 

536
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,120
doesn't even have to be that 
courageous. 

537
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,680
No. 
I think that's exactly right 

538
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:47,760
because people are not going to 
pivot off of the Vikings and the

539
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,320
Rams. 
They're going to play both sides

540
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,640
of that game at a really high 
clip. 

541
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,880
I think they're going to play 
Bucks at a really high clip. 

542
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,720
Washington's not going to get as
faded as much as you would think

543
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,320
purely from their chances of 
winning. 

544
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,520
And so I think like you could, 
you could be looking at like 

545
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:10,920
Sutton versus Jefferson in a 
loss and obviously Jefferson's a

546
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,040
favorite there. 
But it's not it's not what 

547
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,720
people think. 
People think it's 9010 and it's 

548
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,680
not in A1 game situation. 
It's just not in a in a, in a 

549
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,480
loss with that stipulation. 
The the likelihood is the 

550
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,040
Vikings offense wasn't very 
good. 

551
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Maybe Sam Darnold played a 
horrible game. 

552
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,800
Maybe he threw for 138 yards, 
right? 

553
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Like how good of a game could 
Justin Jefferson really have 

554
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,600
had? 
Like that's one of the things 

555
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,760
that that exists in these 
scenarios. 

556
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,960
You know, did you just say 
Washington's not going to be 

557
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,280
faded as much as I thought we 
were talking about Washington 

558
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,720
being faded. 
In this game, I think they're 

559
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,840
going to play two games, man. 
I I just think they're so good. 

560
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,720
Like, I'm super excited to play 
Washington, like, Oh, sure. 

561
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,040
And you're picking up a win. 
Yeah. 

562
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,680
Especially an underdog man like 
you. 

563
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,600
Terry Mclaurin's ADP is so 
suppressed compared to like Mike

564
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Evans, Puka Bucky, like you can 
get him super easy. 

565
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,480
And Zach Ritz is like an 
afterthought. 

566
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,320
So you can easily stack three 
guys with the other two on the 

567
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,480
AFC. 
So. 

568
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,680
I play them to make a little 
run. 

569
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,000
Yeah, I mean, I they're, I don't
think the Bucks are like 

570
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,600
reliable, you know, like they, 
they've sucked at times. 

571
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,680
So you sort of don't. 
Know and they're only three 

572
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,440
points favorites. 
That's the crazy. 

573
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,440
They're only three-point 
favorites the and I think the 

574
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,360
Texans will be faded more than 
the commanders. 

575
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920
I think the last edge of the 
money line was slightly better 

576
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,040
for the Texans. 
So I. 

577
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,560
Thought in our chat earlier 
today you were saying when you 

578
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,520
were listening to a bunch of 
stuff that they were a team that

579
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,480
was coming up as as one that 
people because basically you 

580
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,000
have Maclaurin. 
Or. 

581
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,600
Ertz like where else are you 
going? 

582
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,840
Unless you want to make a big 
bet on Jayden in the FFPC 1 is 

583
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,280
what I'm talking. 
About yeah, no, I think 

584
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,880
commanders will be a big, soft, 
big candidate. 

585
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,480
And I got, I got thinking that 
Zane Gonzalez will end up being 

586
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,800
pretty chalky, not like out of 
control, but like he's it's the 

587
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,360
highest level game. 
So like, give me give me Bucky 

588
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,680
and give me the Washington 
kicker that tells a story. 

589
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,560
You know, you got or you frankly
Evans or the Washington kicker 

590
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,640
doesn't really matter. 
But I also think people play 

591
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,520
both sides of it because the 
comfiest games to play both 

592
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,400
sides of are the Vikings and the
Rams, the Bucks and the 

593
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,040
Commanders. 
Because it has such a high 

594
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,120
total. 
The Chargers and the Texans I 

595
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,360
think has the lowest total on 
the slate. 

596
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,160
It does has the lowest total. 
It's like 44.5 versus 50.5. 

597
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,560
So I think it's a little comfier
to probably play a Charger and 

598
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,040
fade the Texans. 
Or you could obviously go the 

599
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,400
other way, play like Nico and 
get like Chargers D, which is a 

600
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,120
pretty, I think they'll be 
pretty popular, but a solid 

601
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,760
play. 
So yeah, I think the, the 

602
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,280
commanders are going to have to 
be faded at a decent clip, but I

603
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,000
don't think they're going to be 
like heavily faded. 

604
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,480
You go from like the commanders 
who who are what, 3 point dogs 

605
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,800
to the Packers who are like 4-4 
and a half five point dogs. 

606
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,160
And I have that as a total fate 
jumping from 40% to 67%. 

607
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,520
So it's like a pretty big. 
What's your, what's, what's your

608
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,920
sense on the Packers, man? 
Because like, I, I, I don't know

609
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,120
what to do with them because I'm
advocating in my group chat with

610
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,960
Wu Tang, Nomar and Jameson like 
we should just fade Green Bay. 

611
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,880
Just say like Philly's going to 
steamroll and that way he can 

612
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,600
open up Washington. 
That seems to be the sentiment. 

613
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,240
The sentiment seems to be 
Philly's going to win this game.

614
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,560
It probably isn't going to be 
close. 

615
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,640
You can't run on the Eagles, so 
Jacobs isn't actually even that 

616
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,160
good of a play. 
I don't feel like dealing with 

617
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,040
the uncertainty around the the 
Packers wide receivers. 

618
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,440
Even with Watson out, the Eagles
are probably going to play a lot

619
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,640
of man. 
None of these guys are really 

620
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,520
man beaters. 
So it's just kind of like a bad 

621
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,480
situation for the Packers, 
especially since Jordan Love is 

622
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,480
nursing an elbow injury. 
So let me just fade the Packers 

623
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320
and I can go play the highest 
total game of the week in the 

624
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,680
Commanders. 
I can go play Nico Collins, who,

625
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,600
you know, in a loss could put up
a bunch of points. 

626
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,640
If I could go play Sutton, Like 
I can do more fun stuff than 

627
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,240
this, like kind of gross 
Packers, you know, offense. 

628
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,920
It's this just going to get shut
down. 

629
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,320
So I I had, I lowered Jacobs 
quite a bit because it doesn't 

630
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,440
seem like people are really that
interested in playing. 

631
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:26,480
It 40% fade Green Bay 67% fade 
seem like really, really juicy 

632
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:32,400
places for like very small 
underdogs like yeah, especially 

633
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,920
given how like top heavy 
tournament that that those seem 

634
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,640
like prime prime like. 
Targets to your point about 

635
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,520
playing the bracket a certain 
way and sort of stacking 

636
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,240
multiple games together, one 
thing I want to throw in there 

637
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,280
is if you play Tampa or 
particularly Washington some 

638
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,760
some way that you're playing 
them to to make a run. 

639
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,000
Washington if you're playing 
Daniels or something, I think 

640
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360
you also aren't on the Packers 
at that point because the like 

641
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,600
if Washington wins, I mean, they
would still they would they 

642
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,320
would probably be going to 
Detroit unless Green Bay wins, 

643
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,520
then they get to go to the 
winner of Minnesota and the Rams

644
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,560
very different second round 
game, right? 

645
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,920
If Tampa wins, they get to host 
the second round if the Eagles 

646
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,800
lose and they also would play 
them the Minnesota Rams winner. 

647
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,280
Both of their paths get a lot 
better if the Packers also win. 

648
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,920
So if you if you get, you know, 
meaningfully on. 

649
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,320
I think I'm more with you on the
Bucks point of that, cause 

650
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,640
'cause the commanders going to 
the Vikings would be kind of 

651
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,080
difficult. 
Rams was nice, I agree with 

652
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,200
that. 
Yeah, but the Bucks, the Bucks 

653
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,000
benefit a lot 'cause they get a 
home game. 

654
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,760
They get a home game completely 
changes their path. 

655
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,240
They could be playing in the NFC
Championship with help from the 

656
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,720
Packers. 
If the Packers win that first 

657
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,360
round game, Bucks are going to 
be favored. 

658
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,480
Probably it's a really NFC. 
Championship our our the very 

659
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,520
sharp Neil Farley says Elamade 
Zacchaeus is a viable pick too. 

660
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,440
We were joking about the Sterler
of the week. 

661
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,960
That's one of the other seagull 
ones he came up with. 

662
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,520
He he brought up to me and yeah,
I believe it's going to be in 

663
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,080
his write up when it gets on 
road of his. 

664
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,320
I don't think he. 
Had a big mitten draft earlier 

665
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,960
when I was doing one with the 
badge Bros and we thought that 

666
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,199
was thin in that contest, much 
less FFCC. 

667
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,960
The reason that Siegel gave me 
was that the Rhodovis matchup 

668
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,400
Raider doesn't like Maclaurin's 
matchup very much. 

669
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,719
It really likes Zacchaeus's, and
so he thinks that, and it also 

670
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,320
likes erta. 
So he thinks that if you're 

671
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,040
going to play the commanders to 
lose that it's that it's viable 

672
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,199
to go with one of the other 
receiving options, basically. 

673
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,159
Yeah, you might get shut down. 
This is a play where you could, 

674
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,040
you could just, this could be 
the type of game where there's 

675
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,000
just like a ton of volume and 
it's just racking up catches. 

676
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,159
Yeah, if Mclaurin like that, his
point was based on the matchup, 

677
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,600
Mclaurin could just get shut 
down and be one and done. 

678
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,280
And it did get me like, well, 
yeah, I hadn't really thought 

679
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,679
about the specific matchups. 
You know, you that's the that's 

680
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:52,800
the thing about wild card 
weekend. 

681
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Six teams are going to play one 
game this weekend and that's 

682
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,840
their whole tournament. 
And you got to think about like 

683
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,960
the matchup matters, right? 
Like that kind of stuff can 

684
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,800
happen when you start talking 
about everybody thinks Josh 

685
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Jacobs can't get there in a loss
because of the Eagles Rundy. 

686
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,960
I'm like a little bit concerned 
about trying to get into Josh 

687
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,920
Jacobs, even if he seems like a 
very good. 

688
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Plus great though that I'm, I 
don't know, well, at least as 

689
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,600
far as the way people play it, I
think, I think Terry will seem 

690
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,680
fine to people. 
Well. 

691
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,800
Talking their shaky got injured 
too. 

692
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:22,960
Sorry, go ahead. 
Talking this through kind of 

693
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,600
maybe led me to a good heuristic
of where to get unique because I

694
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,800
was laughing to myself as we 
talked about this where, you 

695
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,880
know, we used to always say you 
could play anyone dot, dot, dot 

696
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,320
in a GPP. 
It's like in the FFPC challenge,

697
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,920
you can play anyone dot, dot dot
in a loss in a loss, but is as 

698
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,800
you're building out your bracket
or your team, you should be more

699
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,000
willing to get contrarian in 
your loss scenario. 

700
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,240
Picks back to that thing we were
talking about with Draco, where 

701
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,360
you can be right in two ways. 
Obviously if you're playing, if 

702
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,000
you're playing the commanders of
the Super Bowl, you don't 

703
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,360
fucking want Zacchaeus like on 
your opposite. 

704
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,640
But if you're like, Oh my God, 
everybody's playing Terry and 

705
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,920
they might be playing this 
bracket as if the commanders 

706
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,800
aren't going for a run or 
they're trying to have their 

707
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,280
cake and eat it too with a buck 
on the other side or whatever. 

708
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,440
That's where you start to think 
about the pivots like the Sutton

709
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,040
to Mims or you know, whatever 
they may be. 

710
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,240
I do like that idea of getting 
unique in your one off loss 

711
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,880
plays in your. 
Losses, yeah, you really got to 

712
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,280
pick the wins and losses and be 
deliberate about that. 

713
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,120
It's the we we talk about this 
every year. 

714
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,720
The optionality is the alluring 
thing and and people want to 

715
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:31,280
play Jefferson and Akua and play
both sides of that game for the 

716
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,360
optionality. 
And it may be right in the end. 

717
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,960
That's one that I mean, some of 
our lineups are going to have 

718
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,040
Jefferson and the Kuwait and 
let's just be real like it. 

719
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,680
They're two good, really good 
plays Like you, you, you do have

720
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,840
to play it a little bit. 
But if you want to to win this 

721
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,800
contest and think about it from 
the from the end of the contest 

722
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,320
back, you're thinking about of 
those teams at all lost, getting

723
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,080
the highest scores in the 
losses. 

724
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,200
And so you're thinking about 
like, if I just get more 

725
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,760
deliberate with picking the 
bracket, which is what we always

726
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,240
say and and telling a story, I'm
going to be able to potentially 

727
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:06,960
build a team that's pretty 
unique, but like Mclaurin. 

728
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,080
Tampa Bay fade seems fine to me.
Like that seems like it's it's 

729
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,880
like, obviously you're not you, 
you don't want it fade Tampa 

730
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,880
Bay. 
But like you can be right on the

731
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,520
corn because they play two games
and and and then you combine 

732
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,720
that with the Tampa Bay fade. 
And like, even though Mclaurin 

733
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:31,480
is like highly played, kind of 
highly played, that combination 

734
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,240
will probably be really, really 
rare. 

735
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,040
And I think as that happens. 
That's super. 

736
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,840
That's super viable. 
In practice, I'm a little scared

737
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,360
about any Tampa Bay fade because
they're a team that when they go

738
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,960
down, goes down swinging with a 
lot of fantasy points. 

739
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,560
One just a little seen that 
bigger set, right? 

740
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,000
You guys seen that bigger set, 
right? 

741
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,720
Most Touchdown 69 or whatever in
the past like year or whatever? 

742
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,000
One of the injury notes didn't 
bring up, but then dovetails 

743
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,200
with this is Kate Auten back to 
a full practice. 

744
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,120
He's a really good contrarian 
Bucks loss piece because we've 

745
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:10,000
seen him obviously his his big 
time games were with when Evans 

746
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,600
was also out. 
That was when he was really 

747
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,240
consolidating. 
But it would shock no one if he 

748
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,680
popped up for an 8 target game 
and you know, had a really nice 

749
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,760
FFPC scoring day and A and a 
loss. 

750
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:26,560
For sure. 
Yeah, I do think the I've yet to

751
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,800
hear anyone say I can't wait to 
play Mike Evans. 

752
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,480
He's such a smash. 
I've heard that other people 

753
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,040
will be playing him. 
I haven't heard, Oh man, you got

754
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,640
to jam Mike Evans. 
I've heard a lot of while others

755
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,880
play Mike Evans, I'll be 
smashing Bucky Irving, the king 

756
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,920
of running backs, so I think. 
I do, I do. 

757
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,400
This is what I was saying on the
Boomer Opto show on Monday. 

758
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,320
I was like, dude, people are 
going to want to play the 

759
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,080
running back. 
People want to play Bucky and I 

760
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,120
think the commander, it's a 
really high total game, but you 

761
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,000
can run all over the commanders.
So and then and then you're also

762
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:09,040
getting the favorite, the home 
favorite running back and then 

763
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,840
potentially multiple games from 
them. 

764
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,920
So yeah, I. 
I think it was. 

765
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,840
How did I wonder? 
We played a ton of Evans to 

766
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,160
pivot off Bucky. 
All I wanted to do was play 

767
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,080
Bucky in this contest, God damn 
it. 

768
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,120
I'm down to play Bucky. 
I'm just not going to he's. 

769
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,760
Not a bad play. 
No, he's not going to pretend 

770
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,960
good shock to eat. 
That's what's so funny. 

771
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,480
He's good shock to eat, but so 
Leoni, we were talking about 

772
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,000
this and Leoni was like, we 
haven't missed the RB one this. 

773
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,680
Weekend we haven't. 
Rejected for more points than 

774
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,600
Saquon Barkley, dude. 
Yeah, yeah. 

775
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,280
Yeah, he's a he's a very good 
player and that and this is the 

776
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,440
thing, right? 
I mean, this is goes back to DFS

777
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,680
stuff. 
We're kind of talking about this

778
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,280
with Leone too. 
Like you can literally play 

779
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,280
anyone you want in this contest,
right? 

780
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,720
Like if you were like fucking 
Bucky Irving is my favorite 

781
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,040
goddamn player. 
You just have to get unique in a

782
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,120
couple other spots, right? 
Like there no play is a bad 

783
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,040
play. 
It's just what you do with the 

784
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,600
rest of the line up around them.
Guys, that's been one of my big 

785
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,160
issues is too many pivots. 
Like I get all excited about, 

786
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,600
oh, I'm going to leverage this. 
I'm going to leverage that. 

787
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,520
Yeah. 
But you do have to play some of 

788
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,720
those kind of plays as well. 
Was was I wrong to tell everyone

789
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:22,840
in draft season not to draft 
Saquon Barkley and Derrick 

790
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,680
Henry? 
If Bucky Irving is projected for

791
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,640
more points in the first round 
of the playoff contest? 

792
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,360
I think we're going to do. 
That lap, maybe spade enough and

793
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,920
then victory lap, that take, I'm
just going to do that lap, 

794
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Bucky. 
Was the best play, yeah. 

795
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,240
The, the one so note about the 
Rams in the chat being kind of a

796
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,520
A-Team to fade. 
If you look at like odds of 

797
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,440
advancing to Round 2 versus like
how much I'm projecting the team

798
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,200
to get faded. 
The two teams that really stand 

799
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,080
out are the Rams and the 
Vikings. 

800
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,280
Both are, you know, it's it's 
kind of a a pick em type game. 

801
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,320
They have the two highest 
projected players and it's a 1 

802
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,720
1/2 point spread, right? 
It's Deliria coin flip. 

803
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,360
But but people don't want to 
pick it. 

804
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,000
People don't want to have to 
pick the game and you get 

805
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,400
Jefferson and Kuka, you get like
absolute stud wide receivers you

806
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,200
don't got to worry about. 
So it makes sense why this would

807
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,040
be the case. 
But the Rams are now travelling 

808
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,680
to Arizona for this home game. 
They do jump out as I think a 

809
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,160
pretty interesting team to fade 
where I just don't think people 

810
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,240
like because of the two. 
I think Jefferson's actually a 

811
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,640
more comfy fit. 
Now. 

812
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,960
You're probably not fitting the 
Vikings. 

813
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,480
You're probably playing Addison 
or Hawkinson, but you're hoping 

814
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,560
they lose because. 
And the Rams offense has been 

815
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,000
kind of dog shit lately too. 
Yeah, they and they have a 23 

816
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,080
implied team total. 
The Chargers are 22 1/2, the 

817
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:55,120
Packers are 20.25. 
So like you're not Yeah, I mean,

818
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,680
it's a decent like 3 points is 
meaningful, but it's not crazy 

819
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,200
like getting off the bucks or at
26.75 I I'm with them. 

820
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,640
Like that's hard, you know? 
Not only that, you got to 

821
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,320
consider the human element, 
right? 

822
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,800
Some of their houses are 
probably burned down from this 

823
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,680
fire, you know what I mean? 
Like, you have a bunch of stuff 

824
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,480
going on at home, the stress is 
hitting you. 

825
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,480
You got a playoff game that you 
got to play in a different area.

826
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,720
The whole rhythm's all messed up
for them. 

827
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,600
It it would be a good spot if 
you could figure out how to fade

828
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,520
them without puka going off. 
I mean, it sucks to say that, 

829
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,320
but it's not. 
That's true. 

830
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,520
Randall in the chat said Vikings
are going to let their fans down

831
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,000
once again. 
I, I grew up a Viking fan. 

832
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,280
Pat, your brother's a Viking 
fan. 

833
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,280
You probably very aware of this,
the Vikings situation here, what

834
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,760
they're going to do to their 
fans based on history is win 

835
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,880
this game and give them more 
hope and then get absolutely 

836
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,520
slaughtered when you think that 
they actually have a shot. 

837
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,280
They they do win the playoff 
game. 

838
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,120
They they have some amazing wins
in the playoffs, but then they 

839
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,880
lose. 
Then they lose immediately 

840
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,560
after. 
The Vikings move is to lose in 

841
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,760
the NFC Championship in 
absolutely heartbreaking 

842
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,800
fashion. 
They did lose to the Giants in 

843
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,560
the first round a couple years 
ago, but that wasn't a very good

844
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,720
team. 
This is a good team that people 

845
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,960
will actually start to believe 
has a shot to win the title. 

846
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,960
And that's when they get beat by
three touchdowns, right? 

847
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,120
Or in a really heartbreaking 
game, late. 

848
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,560
Either way, this is a team that 
they that loses to Baker 

849
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,200
Mayfield in the NFC Champions. 
That's right. 

850
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,440
That's that's what happened to 
the Vikings. 

851
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:21,320
That's what. 
Happens of let's see here would 

852
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,280
you guys want to want to hop in 
an underdog draft? 

853
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,960
Here we can have the the 
sidekick and Chris G as our our 

854
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,600
copilots and see what we can 
cook up. 

855
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,880
All day, all day. 
I love it. 

856
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,080
All right, how many gauntlets 
are left? 

857
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,880
That's a good question. 
In my account. 

858
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,280
Yeah, let's let's do one. 
I I still have plenty to go, so 

859
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,960
let's do that and. 
It's at 95% man. 

860
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,760
It's going to be done by Friday 
afternoon. 

861
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:55,560
Jeez. 
Yeah, yeah. 

862
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,320
Pat, you want to tell people you
know? 

863
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,400
I mean, I know most people 
watching by now are aware of the

864
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,520
sidekick, but they want to let 
let them know what they're 

865
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,440
they're looking at up here on 
screen. 

866
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,640
Sure. 
So we got dynamic rankings here.

867
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,600
We what are you got to scroll 
over because I can't tell which.

868
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,440
Position here it's we're at one 
O 2. 

869
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,920
Over one O 2. 
OK, so the odds at the top here 

870
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,720
represent the odds that they go 
to the conference championship 

871
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,080
game. 
Once you select the team, it'll 

872
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,560
change those 'cause you're now 
assuming that that team is going

873
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,800
to go to the conference 
championship game. 

874
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,560
But yeah, the real value here is
it kind of helps you keep track 

875
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,480
of like what you're trying to 
accomplish in this draft, 

876
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,960
building out teams that are 
cohesive and makes sense. 

877
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,240
Awesome. 
Yeah, so we got the 1/2 here. 

878
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,280
This is typically a Lamar spot. 
You know, Josh Allen always goes

879
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,480
1, Lamar rare rarely falls. 
Do you guys always do Lamar 

880
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,400
here? 
I'm like 100% Lamar unless 

881
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,560
Allen's there. 
Yeah, same here. 

882
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:01,800
I, I I really enjoy the sidekick
too, because it actually helps 

883
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,880
you like in the later rounds. 
Like, hey, don't forget about 

884
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Tylen Wallace, you know, that's 
what. 

885
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,440
I Yeah, how can you forget about
Tylen Wallace? 

886
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,120
He's he's programmed into the 
sidekick for sure. 

887
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Hi, let's do, let's do. 
Lamar does Devon? 

888
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,680
Does Walker ever come up? 
He's there. 

889
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,040
He's usually, he's usually not 
the top guy, but he is in the 

890
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,120
sidekick. 
He has. 

891
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,400
He has shown up somewhere down. 
Yeah, shown up. 

892
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,280
I ignore him most of the time. 
I have to if you if if if you 

893
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,320
try to draft like if you try to 
draft Devante as the paper 

894
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,320
clippy it looks like you're 
trying to Devantez welcome. 

895
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:42,360
Did you mean Tywin Wallace? 
God. 

896
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,720
Did you beat Patrick Ricard? 
So how? 

897
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,000
Do I know I haven't drafted 
enough teams? 

898
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,960
It's the fact that I haven't 
thought about clicking Devantez 

899
00:45:54,040 --> 00:46:00,240
Walker yet. 
So it's when you get sniped on 

900
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:04,880
Thailand Wallace and then you're
like, that's when you undrafted.

901
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,560
So the good thing here, Pete, is
that you have the Buffalo Bills 

902
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,760
guy. 
If he's an intelligent drafter, 

903
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,240
he's not going to take a 
Baltimore Ravens piece from you.

904
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:17,440
So you can have your pick of 
Jameson, Devante, JJ, whoever 

905
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,040
you want. 
Who do you guys like? 

906
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,120
I've I've done each of those in 
this spot before. 

907
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,160
Gretsch, Draco, you got a like 
here. 

908
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,760
I don't. 
It's probably JJ for me because 

909
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,360
he gets the round one and he's a
good player and they got a 

910
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,840
chance to go to the Super Bowl. 
Jameson's obviously more fun and

911
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,520
it's just hard to stack all 
those guys. 

912
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,360
You know, Minnesota's a little 
easier. 

913
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,920
What do you think that? 
I tend to go Jameson just 

914
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,360
because I think the Lions, you 
know the. 

915
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,600
Super balls are better, get 
there. 

916
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,240
One thing about taking Lions 
that's nice is that it you'd 

917
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,720
like sort of freeze because then
you're like, oh, I need advance 

918
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:03,640
rate pieces now. 
But like you're, you've locked 

919
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,480
in a team that's the most likely
to go to the Super Bowl. 

920
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,440
So you don't, it kind of 
prevents you from getting like 

921
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,240
too focused on advance rate 
because you're building through 

922
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:15,080
the Lions and then that gives 
you permission to go take Mike 

923
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,960
Evans and Bucky or go take, you 
know, a Pooka or a Chiron or 

924
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,360
whatever. 
So I actually try to it's like 

925
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,960
eating eating my vegetables to 
get to get that bye week. 

926
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Team, I like his idea. 
Let's go back. 

927
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,480
Honestly, I honestly like that 
idea. 

928
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,440
But like the problem is like I 
should have looked at the board 

929
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,600
better because James Cook 
getting picked at the seven hole

930
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,480
should just tell us all we need 
to know. 

931
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,680
And we probably should have gone
Jamo because we're probably 

932
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,120
going to get La Porta back. 
But in the past couple of drafts

933
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,960
I've been in, it's like as soon 
as this guy goes Amon Raw or 

934
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,800
Jared Goff or Jared Goff and 
Gibbs, he's taken every single 

935
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,160
thing back. 
So then you're just left with 

936
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,880
Jamo, and then it's like you got
to build out a four in one or 

937
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,480
five in one. 
And that's why you get Monty 

938
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,080
Monty's The Other One. 
I haven't been able to get him 

939
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,160
lately. 
Like he just goes by the same 

940
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,960
guy that takes Gibbs or another 
guy. 

941
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,520
It's just insane how quick he 
goes now. 

942
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,200
He's not going in the seven 
anymore. 

943
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,040
He's going like early 6, late 
fifth. 

944
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, the, I will say the, the 

945
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,840
Baltimore and Minnesota is like 
one of the cleanest pairings 

946
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,520
that is. 
Just. 

947
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Easy to get funneled to. 
It always feels good. 

948
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:34,320
You never really have to reach. 
So yeah, sidekick likes Aaron 

949
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,200
Jones here. 
We did get sniped on Bateman by 

950
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,960
the Henry team. 
Who's going we. 

951
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,400
Could take yeah, we could take 
Bucky. 

952
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,360
Build out a Bucky. 
Pair together pretty nice. 

953
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:46,880
I like that. 
Yeah, I'm fine with that. 

954
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,160
They don't. 
They don't play each other in 

955
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,680
the second round of most 
scenarios, unless the. 

956
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,800
Was that surprising to you that 
I like that? 

957
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,320
Very good. 
I like that. 

958
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,080
Oh, you did you. 
Asked me last round if I had a 

959
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,280
thought. 
I was like, I've not done one of

960
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,800
these drafts. 
I have no ideas that you're like

961
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,440
I'm in. 
Well, sometimes you're able to 

962
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,800
pull off the the Mike Evans and 
Bucky pairing, which is 

963
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,840
obviously fun. 
That's. 

964
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,560
Really fun with. 
McMillan and or Otten Late. 

965
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,240
You know there's still ways to 
do it. 

966
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,000
I'd probably take Aaron Jones 
here. 

967
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,760
Yeah, I think Jones or Addison, 
we can probably get flowers 

968
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,240
later. 
Yeah, yeah, I guess the only 

969
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,240
reason to go Addison over Jones 
is if you kind of like the 

970
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:31,280
little Cam maker stuff. 
Late but. 

971
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,240
Yeah, we can do that too. 
That's totally fine. 

972
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:40,000
Let's do, let's do Addison, cuz 
we're gonna, we're gonna need to

973
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,400
get try to get Justice Hill on 
this team. 

974
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,200
For sure. 
Which is there's, there's two 

975
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,000
famous words if you, if you've 
drafted a, a Hertz team or a 

976
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:55,280
Lamar team, that's I need to get
Kenny Gainwell or Justice Hill 

977
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,920
on this team. 
Or or Allen half the time like 

978
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,400
Ty Johnson, like, Oh no, better 
get ready done this. 

979
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,600
I got a question. 
The Vikings, If all the top 

980
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,760
seeds win, the Vikings have to 
go play the Lions, correct? 

981
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,840
So once you take the Vikings, 
are you more likely to take 

982
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,520
Commanders and Packers because 
you would like them to upset and

983
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,960
then go play the Lions for you 
and then you have the Vikings on

984
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,320
a cleaner path? 
In which case, like, was Bucky 

985
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,720
not optimal to stack with 
Jefferson not even locking in? 

986
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,040
You, yeah, I mean, sure, But you
also, This is a realistic 

987
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,280
conference championship game. 
You need the Vikings go beat the

988
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,040
Lions in Detroit, which did not 
look like they were capable of 

989
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,320
doing the last time they tried 
it, but they could. 

990
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,400
And then. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

991
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,000
A lot of people thought they 
were going to before that game. 

992
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,040
Right, right. 
I know football's funny. 

993
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,880
Like, you know, Stafford or 
Stafford Darnold was like, if 

994
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,120
they don't bring him back, 
they're crazy. 

995
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,040
And then the game later, they're
like, I don't know if you can 

996
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,600
bring Donald back. 
So Pete, what do you want to do 

997
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,040
here? 
Do you want to take both 

998
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Baltimore guys, or are you 
interested in getting another 

999
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,320
skilled position player like TJ 
Hawkinson to add to your 

1000
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,800
Minnesota snack? 
I don't think Hawkin, I think 

1001
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,000
the Raven stuff is more 
important here. 

1002
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,440
The question is, which 2 of Zay 
Likely and Justice Hill do we? 

1003
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Think, I don't think it'll. 
I don't think it. 

1004
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,800
Matters. 
It feels really important 

1005
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,120
because we have Jefferson and 
Addison for the first round for 

1006
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,080
sure, right? 
I think ZE is the most important

1007
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,240
'cause he's like, we, we have a 
team that's pretty good to 

1008
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,400
advance. 
We got like Jefferson and Bucky.

1009
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,480
So let's get the guy who, like, 
helps us the most in the Super 

1010
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,320
Bowl, yeah? 
Yep, and that's true inversely. 

1011
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,160
Like likely we'll see a big 
bigger spike this week, but then

1012
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,840
that will fall back once ZE is 
back a little bit. 

1013
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,320
Yeah. 
I honestly think Justice Hill 

1014
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,640
will be there at 8:00 and if 
that we can just take Keaton 

1015
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,840
Mitchell, you know, for. 
This is kind of where I'm at. 

1016
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,040
I think likely is probably the 
stronger pick just for ADP. 

1017
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,480
OK, Yeah. 
You can take Keaton, yeah. 

1018
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,920
Is the other Ravens guy. 
I don't think he would go 1/3 

1019
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,960
running back with Henry and 
Jones. 

1020
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,560
He he should. 
Do you guys have any qualms with

1021
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,160
paring likelihood Andrews? 
No, they're all wide receiver, 

1022
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,080
tight end, so it doesn't matter 
to us really. 

1023
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,520
Like they they, they can score 
as many points as they want, you

1024
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,080
know? 
I don't either in that specific 

1025
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,320
offense because I just feel like
they play different roles. 

1026
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,840
I mean they they do eat each 
other's routes a little bit, but

1027
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,840
I'm not like it's like in the 
season long. 

1028
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,040
I I'm I would be worried about 
it drink because I'd be like 

1029
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,840
some of their upsides tied to 
injury this and that, but like. 

1030
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,200
Right, right. 
Some of the upside is injury. 

1031
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,320
So drink with the points reset 
every week so they can actually 

1032
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:47,560
ping pong weeks and get. 
Well, I forget who first started

1033
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,440
making this analogy about 
calling, you know, the the end 

1034
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,200
game of these gauntlet drafts is
like Showdown 2 where stuff that

1035
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,560
feels weird or, you know, 
negatively correlated in our 

1036
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,040
like weekly or even over the 
course of the season brands. 

1037
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,880
It's like you're just trying to 
get a unique piece in the 

1038
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,840
playoffs and you'd actually like
the Pat's joke, like the ping 

1039
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,160
pong effect where Andrews 
carries all those teams and then

1040
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,320
they don't have likely that that
likely goes off. 

1041
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:20,320
It's not really a joke, Yeah. 
So I Len does only have one 

1042
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,920
running back. 
I mean, I don't think he'd do 

1043
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,360
it, but let's just do it 'cause 
I don't see anything. 

1044
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,760
Else does he have Vikings? 
Would would he take Hock or not?

1045
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,680
Doesn't he has Detroit? 
Philly he's, he's got. 

1046
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,720
To take a running back here, 
he's got to take a running back,

1047
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,080
Ty Johnson, so he's got to take 
one of them. 

1048
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,480
Yeah, he's very Buffalo focused.
He should, probably. 

1049
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,960
Take also also Drico to go back 
to like Baltimore, I saw like a 

1050
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,480
lot last week that they were 
running a lot of two tight end, 

1051
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,520
2 wide receiver sets even with 
Zay Flowers injured early in the

1052
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,560
game. 
So like, likely he's going to be

1053
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,440
on the field probably just as 
much as Andrews is, especially 

1054
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,000
more so now that Zay's injured. 
Let me ask you a quick question 

1055
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,400
before we do take Hawk and I, I 
think Hawk's a good pick, but 

1056
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,120
like thinking through, you know,
Cam Akers and Kate Otten would 

1057
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,320
be other stuff like are we going
to go Hawk Cam Acres or are we 

1058
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,680
going to try to get another 
Bucks piece or just play one off

1059
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,360
Bucky? 
I think one off Bucky just to 

1060
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,480
help us get through like 2 
rounds and then Justice Hill 

1061
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,840
takes over. 
OK, well hawk's Hawk's a good 

1062
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,160
pick at this price, so we'll 
take him and then if for some 

1063
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,960
reason we. 
Got Zane McMillan might come 

1064
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,720
back when when we took. 
He's already gone, isn't he? 

1065
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,120
Yeah, He's going to ask when we 
took likely about McMillan and 

1066
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,440
then he went at the turn. 
Does it seem like he might have 

1067
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,320
shots come back based on where 
he was in the list? 

1068
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,600
I was thinking we might. 
Hold McMillan has super big 

1069
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,240
buzz. 
So is Dave Montgomery right now.

1070
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,880
But look, I want to point out 
Terry Mclaurin. 

1071
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,680
He went in the eighth round. 
That's insane. 

1072
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,800
Oh, wow. 
Matchup. 

1073
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,080
Yeah. 
I mean, he's just such a. 

1074
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,280
Great. 
Big yeah. 

1075
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,280
There's some weird there's some 
weird stuff happening in that 

1076
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:02,400
the team who had Evans got 
sniped on Baker and then still 

1077
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,160
took McMillan, but then he went 
back to get Stafford, and then 

1078
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,760
this drafter is just running out
naked Baker as his only 

1079
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,080
quarterback depending on what he
does here, which seems pretty 

1080
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,120
bad. 
So this advance is 2 of 5, not 2

1081
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,760
of 6. 
I don't think this guy can feel 

1082
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,680
the Super Bowl line up, unless 
I'm missing something. 

1083
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,000
No, no, he. 
I mean he. 

1084
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,120
He well. 
He just took dart old opposite 

1085
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,600
Puka. 
So yeah, he's, he doesn't know 

1086
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:32,600
what he's doing. 
Well, he has. 

1087
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,600
He has Goff sparkly. 
No, no, sorry. 

1088
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,120
I was looking at the five hole 
here with Baker. 

1089
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,440
No, I am too. 
Or I just, said Goff. 

1090
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,160
I meant Gibbs. 
Gibbs Sparkly. 

1091
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,680
Yeah, Yeah. 
Yeah, I don't know what. 

1092
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,720
And then he had one Rams. 
So sometimes with these, this is

1093
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:53,040
where you you take Aguilar 
Thailand or Cam. 

1094
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,760
Cam is. 
I think, I think Cam, with how 

1095
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,920
big of a bet we've made on the 
Vikings. 

1096
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,560
I'm with you, I I think Cam's a 
good pick. 

1097
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,360
And we're still live for a a 
Baltimore Bucky, You know, Super

1098
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,040
Bowl like we'd roll out our 4 
Ravens with Bucky opposite. 

1099
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:11,320
Totally. 
What's the what's the 

1100
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,000
alternative? 
I I like Cam too but what was? 

1101
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,840
Our another Ravens dust. 
Box. 

1102
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:17,960
More Ravens. 
Yeah. 

1103
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:18,960
Yeah, more Ravens. 
A key. 

1104
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,080
That's what I was thinking. 
Yeah. 

1105
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,560
OK. 
Yeah, I think the acres thing 

1106
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,200
makes sense. 
Yeah. 

1107
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,640
'Cause you don't and you add 
another running back in a little

1108
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,760
little 10 after, right? 
Yeah, and if Aaron Jones gets 

1109
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,080
injured, you got the nuts. 
Yeah. 

1110
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,600
I mean, that's that's the thing.
You're like, same thing in 

1111
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,120
basketball that we do in BBM. 
Hope that the starter you know, 

1112
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:41,440
obviously doesn't get injured 
but misses some time you know he

1113
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,480
takes a hiatus. 
You guys want to do one more of 

1114
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,480
these before we build a FFBC 
team? 

1115
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,840
Yeah, yeah, sure. 
I was going to say like. 

1116
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,400
Smokes weed in like Africa. 
He does like what? 

1117
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,440
Ricky Williams. 
Yeah, you don't like the gas 

1118
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,400
patch, bro, You know it's. 
Just probably just sticks up a 

1119
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:07,680
hobby and gets really into it. 
All right, now we got the three,

1120
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,440
which is I feel like 3 is a 
little bit more of a choose your

1121
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,560
own adventure pick. 
Yeah, I've I've started just 

1122
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:20,280
taking Hertz at 3:00. 
I have like my. 30 Vegas was in 

1123
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,560
the last draft as well. 
OK, where is he? 

1124
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:29,280
Yeah, he's he's the one. 
I mean, yeah, yeah, so and so 

1125
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,200
was the one O 4. 
He was in our draft as well and 

1126
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,320
he was going all over the place.
So if it's me, I probably take a

1127
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,320
quarterback here because I've 
been trying to take Gibbs. 

1128
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,280
I'm on RAW forever and I just 
get sniped. 

1129
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,840
It's hard, man. 
So so I'm probably Jalen. 

1130
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,320
I like the hurt stuff there too.
And occasionally you can get 

1131
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,240
A.J. 
Brown to to come back. 

1132
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,640
Yeah, sharp drafters will take 
Saquon AJ and then try to build 

1133
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,440
out like Mahomes and help he 
falls, but it'll probably end up

1134
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,280
we'll probably get A.J. 
Brown looking at this the end 

1135
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,240
here there's a no badger. 
He'll probably do something 

1136
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,920
crazy you. 
So you would try to advance that

1137
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,280
team without AQB in round one? 
No, you just have to stack up 

1138
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,080
and hope Mahomes falls to three 
O 3. 

1139
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,000
But then you take the he's 
saying you'd have to he's. 

1140
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,640
Saying you'd have to get another
quarterback. 

1141
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,400
Would would you do that? 
Yeah, yeah, if Mahomes has a 

1142
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,800
buy. 
So you have to get like Jayden, 

1143
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Jay, you can get Jayden the 7th 
or 8th, Jayden take Baker in the

1144
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,600
ninth, yeah. 
Baker, Yeah. 

1145
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,720
For any time I get a golf for 
Mahomes team, I'm thinking to 

1146
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,680
myself, OK, I want the 50 team 
total game total, which is Baker

1147
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,800
Oregon commanders makes sense. 
Just for the one off. 

1148
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,120
You don't even have to stack 
them. 

1149
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,280
You're just like, oh. 
Yeah, you can do. 

1150
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,120
You can do Jayden even. 
Yeah, I think it's fine. 

1151
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,800
Those guys go like in the eighth
round, 7th. 

1152
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,520
Round, seventh round, eighth 
round. 

1153
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,440
Depending on how crazy people 
are, you know. 

1154
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,200
You never have to be in a 
situation where you're like, I'm

1155
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,400
going to take Bonex in the 10th 
round just to get a quarterback 

1156
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,640
for round one. 
And I've seen, I've even seen 

1157
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,800
you'll sometimes get. 
Boxed out because people do. 

1158
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,240
People will do stupid shit. 
They'll take 3 QBs and you'll be

1159
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,160
like fuck Bonex. 
It is. 

1160
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,520
I've even seen Sam Darnold. 
I've even seen Sam Darnold in 

1161
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,720
the ninth round, like a lot of 
times, because people are so 

1162
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,480
scared of that last game. 
Like he'll fall and you'll be 

1163
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,440
like, oh, it's a high team 
total, just take them just to 

1164
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,760
advance Mahomes or golf easy. 
Yeah. 

1165
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,960
And to Chris's point, someone 
took A.J. 

1166
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:29,800
Brown and Barkley, Henry goes, 
we're not doing a quarterback 

1167
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,760
here. 
So we could play. 

1168
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,160
We probably probably Devante 
just a lot. 

1169
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,200
Slim Reaper. 
It's it. 

1170
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,200
It's painful when that happens 
because you're like, man, I'm 

1171
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,960
just so suboptimal because 
you're giving Baltimore guy, I'm

1172
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,480
on raw, you're giving him 
probably J MO if this guy 

1173
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,800
doesn't snipe him, Yeah. 
Yeah, there's there's Pete 

1174
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,640
Overset in their draft getting 
the sloppy Eagle seconds, and 

1175
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,520
then there's a real swaggy Pete 
over here cleaning up all. 

1176
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,760
Right, so not optimal. 
Perfect. 

1177
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,520
So let's see, Sidekick likes a 
chief here. 

1178
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,800
Yeah, Chief for Andrews, then we
just build out you guys want to.

1179
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,840
Go Chiefs this time since we did
Baltimore last time. 

1180
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,240
Yeah, yeah, sure. 
You guys have a preference on 

1181
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,040
Kelsey or Worthy Kelsey? 
For me, I think he's going to 

1182
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,080
show little juice in the play 
offs, but who knows? 

1183
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,560
What do you think, Pat? 
I tend to go Kelsey, but I'm 

1184
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,080
open to either. 
The nice thing about this 

1185
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,720
pairing, it's honestly too much 
of my Eagles look like this 

1186
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,840
because you can now get running 
backs on the chief side and like

1187
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,240
you also don't have to like 
sweat Pacheco cuz you could get 

1188
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,600
like you can push Pacheco, get a
really good deal on him cuz 

1189
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,400
Hunt's there. 
It's like it just getting a 

1190
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,160
Super Bowl running back is not 
Kenny Gainwell is nice, you 

1191
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,400
know? 
This is what's frustrating when 

1192
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,560
someone's building out the exact
same two teams as you and 

1193
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,840
they're right behind you. 
That so the the Barkley Brown 

1194
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,240
drafter goes Mahomes. 
That's a great start. 

1195
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,280
That's a great start. 
Hey Chris, my eyes. 

1196
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,840
Our team is up here buddy, 
please. 

1197
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,320
It's one thing to lust after 
another team in the chat, it's 

1198
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:19,760
another thing when you're on 
stream with us. 

1199
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,400
Dude. 
So I would forego the sidekick 

1200
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,640
here and I would go Goddard, 
Yeah. 

1201
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,680
Well, Goddard's gonna come back 
to us cuz no one's taking eagles

1202
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,320
behind us. 
The Eagle tractors on the other 

1203
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,680
side. 
I would not do that dude, trust 

1204
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,720
me. 
People just take eagles for any 

1205
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,800
reason. 
It's insane. 

1206
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,680
It's it's so insane. 
I'm telling you dude, don't do 

1207
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,360
it. 
I mean, you can risk it, but. 

1208
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,640
I would don't. 
Absolutely do not. 

1209
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,360
I guess both the teams behind us
have AFCQBS right? 

1210
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,600
So they might tell themselves 
when one off piece of an eagle 

1211
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,240
makes sense. 
Correct. 

1212
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,760
Yeah. 
So like if they're if they're 

1213
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,120
using the sidekick, they'll be 
like, oh, let me get Pacheco 

1214
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,760
because it's being recommended 
because it's their likelihood to

1215
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:05,920
meet in the conference 
championship. 

1216
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,000
But if they're not, they're 
going to pick like an NFC 

1217
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,320
opponent. 
So for me it's like just take 

1218
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,480
Goddard, hope for the best and 
Pacheco usually falls. 

1219
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,120
So. 
It looks like he. 

1220
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:22,080
No, never mind. 
So let's see, Yeah, Pacheco's 

1221
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,880
still here. 
Who know? 

1222
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,280
I I think this team behind us, 
yeah, you got to take. 

1223
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,160
Right. 
Up. 

1224
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,800
He's definitely going to take 
Pacheco. 

1225
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,040
The other move would be to take 
Mcconkey play for Hunt and then 

1226
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,840
we get like a Mcconkey Dobbins 
thing. 

1227
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,520
Yeah, we do need skill position.
Players to. 

1228
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,880
Play the the charge in. 
The second, the charge. 

1229
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,040
Would play the Chiefs in the 
second. 

1230
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:45,120
Round. 
True. 

1231
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:50,440
We'll go with Pacheco, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1232
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,720
So we'll have to. 
We're going to need to think 

1233
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,480
about a round one running back 
advanced piece. 

1234
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,840
Justice Hill, somebody who's not
going to play in the. 

1235
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,160
Second round, honestly, Ty 
Johnson, now we're back. 

1236
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,040
To the Chargers first Chiefs in 
Round 2. 

1237
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,760
The other movie would be to try 
to do Nico Mixon. 

1238
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:08,840
Oh, Nico Mixon, that's a good 
point. 

1239
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,960
Nico Mixon. 
Also plays the Chiefs in the 

1240
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,840
second round. 
I know, but it's, it's, you 

1241
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,880
know, it's just to get us 
through because we have like 

1242
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,160
Kelsey Pacheco and more Chiefs 
coming online in Round 2. 

1243
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,200
We can also do that when you 
have. 

1244
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,640
That we could do Mclaurin, a 
mclaurin and a commander's 

1245
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,400
running back. 
Yeah, we could do that. 

1246
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,600
That's a great point. 
And no one's going to take B 

1247
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,960
Rob, so you can get him way 
late. 

1248
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,080
It's not a really good, it's not
a really good advance piece. 

1249
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,320
But I mean at this point it's up
to you guys really. 

1250
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,320
Like for me, I would actually. 
No scenario where they can play 

1251
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:44,640
Philly in the second round, 
right? 

1252
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,640
Because there's a two seed. 
They're the six seed, correct? 

1253
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,800
No, you guys are making good 
points for me. 

1254
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,200
I'm sometimes just like, hey, 
I'll just lose one slot. 

1255
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,040
That's how I I was thinking like
a late Ty Johnson could still 

1256
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,600
advance you. 
Does that seem crazy? 

1257
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,200
It's it's going to be tough 
likely this like that's more 

1258
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,280
likely when you're drafting 
early because there's going to 

1259
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,920
be like dead teams are drafted 
like Seahawks and stuff like 

1260
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,000
that here. 
Like people are drafting really 

1261
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,160
good pieces from teams that are 
definitely in the playoffs. 

1262
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,960
So it's at. 
The scores you're going to need 

1263
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,760
are high. 
Ty Johnson could score a lot of 

1264
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,760
points. 
One little 1 little Juke, right?

1265
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,480
That's all he needs. 
He's been, I mean, they, they, 

1266
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,160
he's literally says this year 
they think he's the best third 

1267
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,400
down back in the NFL. 
Like he's the reason James Cook 

1268
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,840
doesn't play as much as he 
should when he's leading the 

1269
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,880
league in rushing TDs. 
It's kind of wild. 

1270
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,200
I, I really like the commander 
angle because we get another 

1271
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,800
really nice commander angle with
Mclaurin. 

1272
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,400
We don't have to worry about 
Daniels and then we're going to 

1273
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,680
have two cracks at either B Rob 
or Eckler, who don't even 

1274
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,640
project that much differently. 
That's right. 

1275
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,280
And honestly I really like 
Eckler over B Rob. 

1276
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,440
Just like if they're in a 
negative game script, just 

1277
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,200
dumping it off to him be kind of
fun. 

1278
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,920
Well, in this reality, they're 
in a positive game script. 

1279
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,360
OK, the B Rob it is. 
I don't know if you notice, but 

1280
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,360
this is only half point PPR so 
those aren't that valuable. 

1281
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,120
That's true. 
That's true. 

1282
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:17,240
All right, so we got our two. 
We have a Are we gonna play just

1283
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,920
one AFC team on this and not 
mess around with Ravens or 

1284
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:27,160
Bills? 
We could, honestly. 

1285
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,560
I think we could also take, we 
could take Hunt even though we 

1286
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,960
have Pacheco. 
I still think Ty Johnson's a 

1287
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,520
good pick. 
We could do that. 

1288
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,400
We could do. 
Let's take it and play for Ty 

1289
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:40,760
Johnson. 
Yeah. 

1290
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,360
Could be paid then. 
No, wait, do you want to take 

1291
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,040
Robinson? 
Sorry I I meant late. 

1292
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,320
Oh, we should take. 
If we're going to take Tai, we 

1293
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,600
should take Kincaid right now. 
And then we'll get Robinson and 

1294
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:51,280
Tai. 
Yeah. 

1295
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,160
Yeah, we'll get. 
Robinson I like that because 

1296
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,680
then we'll have two conference 
championship games, decent, and 

1297
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,080
then we'll have a 2. 
And I like the idea of getting 2

1298
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,800
running backs with Pacheco 
especially. 

1299
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,680
For what we're. 
Having 2 is nice. 

1300
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:08,360
Yeah. 
They, I mean, they like Terence 

1301
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,080
in the chat, said Buffalo 
probably convinced the running 

1302
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,800
backs for the playoffs. 
You play this guys in the plus. 

1303
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,320
I think that's true in a lot of 
scenarios. 

1304
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,480
I'm telling you, Buffalo thinks 
Ty Johnson is a weapon. 

1305
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,960
They don't think he's just like 
a guy that spells James Cook. 

1306
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,760
They actively care about getting
the ball to Ty Johnson. 

1307
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,400
He's really fast and he can 
catch. 

1308
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,920
Dude, he plays so much for his 
third down role. 

1309
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,160
He it's he's, he's awesome. 
I really like him. 

1310
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,600
I have him a lot in my early 
teams. 

1311
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,200
I. 
Have a lot. 

1312
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,600
Period. 
Yeah. 

1313
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,120
He's when you're talking Pete 
about like, oh, you got to get 

1314
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,680
Justice Hill. 
Can he gain? 

1315
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,320
Well, he's he's that for me with
Allen. 

1316
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,120
When I have Allen, I'm I'm 
taking Ty Johnson on a really 

1317
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,560
high rate. 
Sorry, shouldn't we do so this 

1318
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,920
next pick we're is, is Gainwell 
right? 

1319
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,480
Well, we only have room for 
probably, we probably want to 

1320
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,480
take 3 running backs. 
So we're deciding between Ty 

1321
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,760
Gainwell and Robinson. 
Yeah, I think, I think we're 

1322
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,840
just building this out like, 
hey, it's either going to be 

1323
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,640
Isaiah or Ty in the Super Bowl. 
Yeah, I think we can skip. 

1324
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:17,200
Why are you short changing our? 
The other move would be to take 

1325
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,600
we could take Mixon well our. 
Commanders are going to play in 

1326
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,120
the conference championship, not
in the Super Bowl. 

1327
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,320
I think. 
I don't know any of the 

1328
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,520
dynamics. 
I think we generally. 

1329
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:39,520
I think we take tie and then you
can pick between KG or B Rob. 

1330
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,880
OK, yeah, I mean, normally I 
feel like isn't you, you 

1331
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,560
generally like having the 
running back tied to your Super 

1332
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,000
Bowl team, which. 
That seems right to me, Pete, 

1333
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,400
but does it like, is it 
different because Kent? 

1334
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,280
Because The thing is Gainwell's 
like if Saquon's healthy, 

1335
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,720
Gainwell's like liable to just 
not score the whole time. 

1336
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,800
And I know that's not. 
I think we should be more 

1337
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,920
worried about advanced right 
here because we have, yeah, we 

1338
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,400
have enough pieces for a Bills 
Eagles Super Bowl now. 

1339
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,080
So we have a a running back for 
two Super Bowls. 

1340
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,640
That's true. 
So we think swing back over to. 

1341
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,880
I think we took that back and. 
You're trying to get through, 

1342
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:26,120
yeah. 
I think that's the play live 

1343
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,760
for. 
It's just project a lot better 

1344
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,600
like roll wise. 
Yeah. 

1345
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,359
Yep. 
So now our starting line up in 

1346
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:38,000
wild card, we have Hertz at 
quarterback, 2 running back 

1347
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,600
cracks with Ty and Brian 
Robinson to fill that spot, and 

1348
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:48,200
then Devante, Gotter, Mclaurin, 
Kincaid to fill 3 spots. 

1349
01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:50,760
That's nice you you need 
Washington to advance, but 

1350
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,560
Robinson and Mclaurin could be 
key. 

1351
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,960
You know, if they have a really 
big game in that high total 

1352
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,479
game, they could be really key 
there. 

1353
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,720
Yeah, you could play two games. 
You're like almost like in the 

1354
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,640
top two, top three of the next 
round to like get yourself to 

1355
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,720
that one of 10, which is good. 
Yeah. 

1356
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,359
And then if Buffalo makes a run 
and they beat Baltimore and they

1357
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:10,399
get all the way to the AFC 
Championship against KC, 

1358
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,319
hopefully you get some help from
Ty and Kincaid. 

1359
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:15,560
I mean, this. 
It's an easy bracket to tell a 

1360
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,439
story on it. 
Is Pat what? 

1361
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,080
Would you do here, man? 
Would you take Matt Collins, 

1362
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,359
which he just went, never mind, 
or would you take Jahan Dotson 

1363
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:26,279
here to just stack up our 
Eagles? 

1364
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,200
Oh, I need it. 
I, I was going to say Matt 

1365
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:37,399
Collins or Noah Gray, but I'm, I
think Johan is, is fine as. 

1366
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:39,200
Well, too deep, OK. 
Too thin? 

1367
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,399
OK, no, I'm, I don't think 
Johan's too thin. 

1368
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:45,640
I've taken him. 
I just tend to prefer. 

1369
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,160
I would have preferred Matt 
Collins. 

1370
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,200
Dawson Knox would be another way
to play it. 

1371
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,680
What does it? 
I was going to say, yeah, I 

1372
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,560
think it should be a bill or a 
chief. 

1373
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:57,040
Should probably be a bill or a 
chief. 

1374
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:00,040
Yeah, So Gray or Knox, what do 
you guys want? 

1375
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,880
Any any ball knowers? 
Gretsch, Draco. 

1376
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,760
Those are both good. 
They're like the same play. 

1377
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,640
They're both good plays. 
We already have Kelsey. 

1378
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:07,840
You kind of want him to score 
the TDs. 

1379
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,080
We. 
Already have Kincaid too. 

1380
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,400
Oh. 
Oh shit. 

1381
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,200
Call it Pete. 
Knox helps you get through the 

1382
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,520
first round OK. 
I like Knox. 

1383
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:19,840
Nimble fingers there. 
Wow. 

1384
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,080
Call it cut that. 
Close. 

1385
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,320
Well, actually I can. 
I can double click the sidekick 

1386
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:25,480
right and it adds it to. 
You. 

1387
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,560
I forgot about that. 
Yeah. 

1388
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,160
All right. 
There's this team. 

1389
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,960
So we did Jalen Hurts, Pacheco, 
Ty Johnson, Brian Robinson there

1390
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,000
at running back, and then 
Devante Smith, Travis Kelsey, 

1391
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,840
Dallas Goddard, Terry Mclaurin, 
Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox 

1392
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,320
there. 
Fun team pushed us in some 

1393
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,240
interesting directions there. 
Very clean team. 

1394
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,080
We we did four teams. 
We didn't kind of break the 

1395
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,080
rules. 
Sometimes when I'm doing bye 

1396
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,640
week stuff, I'll take a mix in. 
I'll take a, you know, like a, 

1397
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,360
you know, someone who can't play
in the conference championship 

1398
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,400
game most likely. 
But I like that we didn't do 

1399
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,120
that in the state. 
No, that's that's really good, 

1400
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,560
Rich. 
Because me I'll I'll panic. 

1401
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,160
I'll panic sometimes Like fuck 
it, Dobbins. 

1402
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:07,200
You know what I mean? 
Like hey. 

1403
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:12,240
Yeah, yeah, especially. 
When you have your kids yelling 

1404
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,320
at you in the ear, you know what
I mean? 

1405
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,160
Hey. 
Dude, I had, I had it crash on 

1406
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,360
me today and I was like opening 
the app trying to and I was like

1407
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,040
I got the app up with like 2 
seconds and I was like oh like 

1408
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:28,280
fucking Otto Darnold on an 
Eagles team. 

1409
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,360
Dude, I'm in the snow playing, 
making a snowman with my 

1410
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,960
daughter and because like it's 
20 something degrees here and 

1411
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,680
like we've never seen snow 
before really. 

1412
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:40,520
And literally I'm like getting 
pinked and what's his name? 

1413
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,880
The achievers? 
He's like hey dude, you missed 

1414
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,000
your first 2 picks. 
I'm like. 

1415
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:51,760
I I was multitasking doing my 3 
summit drafts the the three Max 

1416
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,240
and I had a devastating auto 
pick in all three of them. 

1417
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:59,440
I was like I did draft 1 lead 
team. 

1418
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:01,280
Good thing it's not 5 Max, you 
know. 

1419
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:06,120
Yeah. 
I just just for my own OCD I'd 

1420
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,960
have to purposely tank a pick 
just for the cemetery across 

1421
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:13,920
all. 
So with, with OSU playing in, in

1422
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:18,120
Texas tomorrow, they were saying
on the radio, oh, and Texas, 

1423
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,880
they got one inch of snow. 
Better be very careful about 

1424
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,560
that. 
Those guys don't know how to 

1425
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,600
handle snow. 
If you're, if you're, if you're 

1426
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,400
driving to the game, like leave 
yourself extra time. 

1427
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,360
Oh, dude, I won't go out. 
Dude, I will not go out. 

1428
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,120
I'm like. 
She's like, yeah, that's that's 

1429
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,760
exactly right. 
I'm literally like, so here's 

1430
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,000
the thing, it's not, it's not 
really the people driving, it's 

1431
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,680
the roads. 
The roads are terrible. 

1432
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,360
You don't have plows. 
Yeah, you don't have anything. 

1433
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,000
It's all ice. 
And like I've seen cars just 

1434
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,800
skate, skate, just going and 
you're like, yeah, I don't think

1435
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,120
it was worth going out to 
breakfast today. 

1436
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,080
Oh well, is that? 
Is that up? 

1437
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,440
If the weather ever got wonk 
enough for it to snow in San 

1438
01:12:56,440 --> 01:13:00,120
Diego, here I I would find a 
bunker like a tornado warning 

1439
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,360
was coming like I I would I 
would get get to safety. 

1440
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,160
We in in Ireland a couple years 
ago we we had one inch of snow 

1441
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,200
or it was like 2 inches of snow 
and like there was a whole name 

1442
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,680
for it. 
Like the whole country shut down

1443
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,520
for like 4 days. 
We called it the beast from the 

1444
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:23,480
East 'cause there are literally 
there's, there's no snow plows 

1445
01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:27,800
in the country of Ireland. 
And so like, we were just like, 

1446
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,480
OK, there's, there's snow and 
ice here. 

1447
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:36,280
We don't know what to do, dude. 
Literally every everything here 

1448
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,040
is like, hey, don't go to 
school, don't go to work, you 

1449
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,640
know, just stay home and draft 
teams. 

1450
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,600
You know I. 
Think that that was actually the

1451
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,760
recommendation from the state, 
just you know. 

1452
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,600
They said, hey, just smoke her 
down. 

1453
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,280
Hey, promo code Pete, you know, 
just just. 

1454
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,600
Get in there. 
Wow, dude. 

1455
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,440
And I fucking love Texas, man. 
I the, the, the marketing there 

1456
01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:05,080
has really been working. 
All right, I pulled up a draft 

1457
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:10,440
here or not a draft a lineup for
us in the FFPC challenge. 

1458
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:16,040
Draco, you're a guest of honor, 
and you've already revealed that

1459
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,200
you like to do too much Galaxy 
branding, so I'm excited. 

1460
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,040
OK, Oh well now I have. 
Now I have the Galaxy brain. 

1461
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,760
No, not necessarily. 
What I like to think is I want 

1462
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,880
our guests to Galaxy brain do 
their, you know, conviction 

1463
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,440
plays and then we'll smooth it 
out with some nice chalk. 

1464
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:36,160
OK. 
OK. 

1465
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:40,320
I'm going to go with Zuckerts. 
OK. 

1466
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,320
All right, coming hot here. 
Let's go. 

1467
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,480
I like it. 
I like it. 

1468
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,920
Let's see. 
I feel like maybe I'm going to 

1469
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,320
be the one that actually spices 
it up because we've been talking

1470
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:58,440
a lot today about Jalen Hurts 
where he could come in. 

1471
01:14:58,440 --> 01:14:59,680
Let's build the Jalen Hurts 
team. 

1472
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,000
Hi Steve. 
I was going to go to Jalen Hurts

1473
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:02,280
team. 
I was. 

1474
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,240
Going to pick that too. 
I was going to. 

1475
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:05,800
Pick that too my belt then, 
yeah. 

1476
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,480
Hell yeah. 
All right, Gretch is is OTC. 

1477
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,800
I'm, I'm pretty mad because I 
didn't take Bucky on the last 

1478
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,320
show and we didn't get Bucky on 
the team and then all I was 

1479
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:20,400
trying to accomplish tonight was
to get Bucky on the team. 

1480
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,720
But Ertz starts again, we fade 
Tampa. 

1481
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,200
Maybe we play Evans because 
like. 

1482
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,560
They're isn't ertz isn't ertz 
kind of a fade pick on 

1483
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,520
Washington, is he? 
It's a wonder. 

1484
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:35,320
Done. 
I just. 

1485
01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:38,280
Needed to know it wasn't a a 
completely idiotic pick it but. 

1486
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,880
It was a great pick. 
As soon as he picked dirt, I was

1487
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,320
I was like, Gretz just gonna 
smash Bucky here. 

1488
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,360
We're taking Bucky, Pat, how 
much do we think because this is

1489
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,640
like a real phenomenon and you 
know, home league drafts, you 

1490
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:55,240
know, Yahoo ADPCBS, applet ADP 
of like the guys that are 

1491
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,040
buried. 
I mean, look at how far down 

1492
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,920
Bucky is in this points per game
sorting. 

1493
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,840
He's like, I just hold down to 
get to him. 

1494
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,480
I didn't. 
I'm like Rashad White is. 

1495
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,760
Right next to Rashad, white 
people are like exactly the same

1496
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,360
guy. 
Exactly. 

1497
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,960
Exactly. 
I'm telling you, you might have 

1498
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:19,680
to add a default applet, you 
know booster or or negative 

1499
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,360
penalty to the the. 
Ownership project definitely a 

1500
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:23,840
percent for Rashad. 
People will be like, huh, I'll 

1501
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,000
just pivot over to Rashad. 
Look at. 

1502
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,400
That hey, I'll also play Austin 
Seiber. 

1503
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:35,880
Damn, that's the IR all right. 
Pat's Pat's on the board. 

1504
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:46,080
All right, I'm going to go. 
I'm going to go. 

1505
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:52,640
Dalton Kincaid. 
Wow, speak on that. 

1506
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,680
We really want the Bills to lose
as soon as possible. 

1507
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,200
And so so that Allen doesn't 
doesn't make our Hertz pick look

1508
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,480
bad. 
So it's a it's a fade pick. 

1509
01:17:05,480 --> 01:17:06,320
Now. 
I could have taken Cook. 

1510
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,560
That would have been more 
prudent, which is why I started 

1511
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,160
laughing. 
But yeah, don't Kincaid. 

1512
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,560
It's tight end premium here, 
guys. 

1513
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,520
People forget. 
Yeah, it's nice to be able to 

1514
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,560
have Liam on the show without 
having Liam on the show. 

1515
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,720
All right, Chris, it's back to 
you. 

1516
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,720
I'm going to make a same pick 
here and I'm going to take Aman 

1517
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,920
Rah. 
OK, there we. 

1518
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:30,480
Go. 
I feel like part of the argument

1519
01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:33,240
for Ernst and Kincaid is that 
they might be the the tight end 

1520
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,800
because of of the constraint of 
tight end but no hammer in the 

1521
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,720
flex. 
Or yeah, we just get into the 

1522
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,440
flex, baby. 
They're just going to score a 

1523
01:17:40,440 --> 01:17:42,960
lot of points. 
Honestly, part of me wanted to 

1524
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,320
feel how gross that felt, and 
then the reaction to it was to 

1525
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,240
the island Kincaid's ownership 
and I'm lowering him as we 

1526
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:53,680
speak. 
That is fucking triable Looning 

1527
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,200
picks right now for his. 
Own for your. 

1528
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,120
Motives. 
It's for the people, man. 

1529
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:00,680
I need to go wash my hands, that
was disgusting. 

1530
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,480
Yeah, I'm lowering him. 
I'm lowering him. 

1531
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:11,000
OK, Draco. 
Back around, yeah, OK, So we're 

1532
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,920
we're predicting heavily that 
Buffalo loses. 

1533
01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:17,320
I know. 
So that preloads Court and 

1534
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,840
Sutton into our lineup. 
I think so. 

1535
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,160
I like it. 
That's what that was going to be

1536
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,280
my pick if you didn't do it. 
That's a good pick. 

1537
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,360
OK. 
So we I still I was thinking 

1538
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,200
Troy Franklin just to keep up 
with the thief. 

1539
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:37,400
Are. 
Bins right I got. 

1540
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,040
A flushing money down the 
toilet. 

1541
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,920
Lots of money. 
Get the plunger in there. 

1542
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:49,880
So if we're playing the the 
Ravens or sorry, the Bills lose 

1543
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,680
as quick as possible, even if 
they somehow sneak by, I think 

1544
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,000
we need the Ravens cruising 
here. 

1545
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,760
We can't play Lamar. 
I think we got to play Derrick 

1546
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:04,240
Henry here for sure. 
Back to you, Gretsch. 

1547
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,840
We. 
Need some chalk? 

1548
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,840
I'm taking poop in the car. 
This team, this team needs the 

1549
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,840
the good place right now. 
Oh, I guess that picks a winner 

1550
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,960
in that game. 
Oh, well, we're going to fade. 

1551
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:21,240
I think I here's what I'll say. 
I I actually think if you're I 

1552
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,800
think puka is really likely to 
be the right play in a loss. 

1553
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,240
So I actually think it's easier 
to fade Jefferson and do what I 

1554
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:28,720
was saying earlier with Donald 
sucking. 

1555
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,600
So anyway, I think it does 
because we've already played 

1556
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,280
both sides of Denver, Buffalo 
and both sides of Washington, 

1557
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:36,880
Tampa. 
We need to pick a winner in 

1558
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,560
Texans Chargers we're. 
Going to pick a winner in all 

1559
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,160
the rest, yeah? 
And we need a chief. 

1560
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,400
Right, Puka makes the most 
sense. 

1561
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,520
I like that. 
I feel strongly that if you have

1562
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,560
to pick a winner in that game, 
you want to pick it through Puka

1563
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,360
and fade Jefferson side. 
Which is weird, but. 

1564
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:04,200
I'll go Xavier Worthy. 
Man stole my Thunder there. 

1565
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,440
Stole my Thunder. 
That's a clean pick. 

1566
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:14,120
So flex kicker defense. 
We haven't done anything with 

1567
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:20,760
Steelers, Chargers, Texans, 
Texans and Vikings. 

1568
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:26,440
Vikings. 
Packers All right, I'm going to 

1569
01:20:26,440 --> 01:20:29,720
let our illustrious Rico take 
the last flex. 

1570
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,600
Throw up the defense for me, 
please. 

1571
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:40,840
Yeah. 
So we were talking about Houston

1572
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,480
and Lac. 
What do you guys think would be 

1573
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:47,000
the best pick here? 
I'm kind of leading, Let me see 

1574
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,480
kind of leading Chargers because
like they got a good defense, 

1575
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,560
maybe Houston wins. 
I kind. 

1576
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,240
Of like that's the last flex it 
it does limit Draco's flex 

1577
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,680
options if you take the chargers
or the yeah. 

1578
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:02,240
Do you? 
Who do you like? 

1579
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:03,040
Trico. 
The Texans? 

1580
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,840
The charters. 
I I honestly think that if we're

1581
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,000
picking a defense in that game, 
we should pick the Texans 

1582
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,880
defense. 
Let's do it. 

1583
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:17,400
Because I think the Chargers 
defense will be popular and I 

1584
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,640
don't think the Texans defense 
will be you. 

1585
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:22,960
Go with. 
That I really you don't think 

1586
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:23,680
they'll be? 
I have. 

1587
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,720
I think I have them as a chalk. 
The Texans defense. 

1588
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:31,080
Yeah. 
Well, that's the reason I, I, I,

1589
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,120
I don't think so is because like
you have the, the, you have the,

1590
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:39,120
the Harbaugh like run game stuff
and like quarterback is playing 

1591
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,440
well. 
I I know they're a popular fade,

1592
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,840
but. 
I just think people like fade 

1593
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,040
the Texans. 
You know what? 

1594
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,600
Right. 
Remove this Houston team defense

1595
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,520
for me, please. 
There's too much uncertainty 

1596
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:51,880
here. 
Yeah, move it out, please. 

1597
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,960
Yeah, get it out. 
Let's take it out. 

1598
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,200
And I'm going to just switch the
kicker and I'm going to take the

1599
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,080
kicker. 
I'm going to take the best 

1600
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,320
kicker of all time, Chris 
Boswell. 

1601
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,120
Because you saw this comment, 
Terrence said. 

1602
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,320
I'm smashing Boswell. 
Pitt scores 4 figures. 

1603
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,160
And it dude, the guy, Yeah, the 
guy, the guy, the guy's crushing

1604
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:10,800
it dude. 
Just going with the going with 

1605
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,520
the chat. 
I like it, man of the people. 

1606
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,280
That's it. 
All right now, jerks. 

1607
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:17,920
Open for Ricard in that Dome 
game. 

1608
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,400
He's going to make a couple 50 
yarders in this loss. 

1609
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,880
In the neutral site Dome game. 
Yeah. 

1610
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,680
All right, so we still need 
Chargers or Texans. 

1611
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,040
Chargers or Texans? 
Yeah. 

1612
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:45,520
You want Mixon, Dobbins, 
Mcconkey, Nico I. 

1613
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,920
Just do Nico. 
Team can do some Nico. 

1614
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,600
So can I throw one quick thought
out since you were kind of 

1615
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,560
indecisive. 
We are playing Hertz and we're. 

1616
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,560
Playing not indecisive enough 
where you get your time in the 

1617
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:09,440
end in time. 
So we're just going to 

1618
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:13,120
completely fade JJ, is that it? 
Pretty much right? 

1619
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,360
Well, I was going to say, who do
you think can actually beat the 

1620
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,440
Ravens? 
And, and for me it's the 

1621
01:23:18,440 --> 01:23:22,360
Chargers because you're playing,
you're playing Henry and you're 

1622
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,280
playing Kincaid and you're kind 
of saying Buffalo. 

1623
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,800
We just said we think Buffalo 
might lose in round one. 

1624
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,680
We kind of don't want Lamar to 
play three games either. 

1625
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,160
I mean, Henry can get there, but
it'd be a kind of my tie break 

1626
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,240
would be towards the team that I
think is more likely to actually

1627
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,360
beat the Ravens. 
Maybe that's the text, who 

1628
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:41,200
knows? 
Let's play Nico. 

1629
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,120
Yeah. 
And because it's also like we're

1630
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,760
playing Hertz too, so we're 
already kind of saying he's 

1631
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,920
going to be out scoring Lamar 
even if yeah, they both make. 

1632
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,240
It hurts. 
Of the championship, yeah. 

1633
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:56,200
Yeah, right. 
And we're saying the combo of 

1634
01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:01,000
Hertz on Henry outscores the 
combo of Lamar. 

1635
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:02,880
Right. 
Yeah, and because I picked 

1636
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,600
Worthy instead of Kelsey, I 
think we actually want the 

1637
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,400
Ravens to go to the Super Bowl 
and have Henry go nuts, which is

1638
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,960
like, totally live. 
Because you picked 2. 

1639
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,000
Worthy instead of Kelsey. 
We got off the Kelsey chalk. 

1640
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,640
Not that Worthy can't outscore 
Kelsey, but. 

1641
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,880
It's. 
Hard to get that Dunkin Cade 

1642
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,600
pick every time I keep looking 
at him just like like raising 

1643
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:27,560
an. 
Eye pat did too. 

1644
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,960
It was just a twisted 
experiment. 

1645
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,920
Social experiment, apparently. 
Yeah, I mean, I need to. 

1646
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,920
I had him at 6%, way too high. 
It was way too high. 

1647
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:42,520
Now I know. 
All right, so then that leaves 

1648
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,920
our defense. 
Who are we going to do with our 

1649
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:51,280
defense? 
I feel like fading Minnesota is 

1650
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,600
the most unique, but at this 
point I don't know how unique we

1651
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,560
need to be. 
Draco, are you? 

1652
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,560
Minnesota's got a good D though,
so I actually think that's kind 

1653
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,640
of fun pick. 
Yeah, you're a Notre Dame. 

1654
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:06,720
Fan kind of my wife. 
Seems to seems to think that you

1655
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:14,040
are. 
That's the most racist. 

1656
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:14,600
Thing. 
I've ever. 

1657
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,920
Heard Shorty Vegas pick suggests
that we could pivot Kincaid to 

1658
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,840
Jefferson and just do a bill's 
fate. 

1659
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,760
I'd be down for that. 
I'd be fine doing I I'm I'm fine

1660
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,800
switching my with. 
With all the off the board picks

1661
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,480
that we have that that seems 
like a good way to bring it back

1662
01:25:35,480 --> 01:25:37,000
I think. 
Yeah. 

1663
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:40,360
So what do do? 
Bill's fade who? 

1664
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,720
And then? 
You could do Bill's D if you 

1665
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,560
wanted. 
Yeah, Bill's. 

1666
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,440
D Bill's D is probably the move,
yeah. 

1667
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:49,640
Yeah, let's do that. 
OK. 

1668
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,080
There you go. 
Draco's it true that you're just

1669
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,240
off screen. 
You're eating a bowl of Lucky 

1670
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:00,840
Charms right now. 
I'm actually doing a like a an 

1671
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:02,480
Irish dance under the table as 
well. 

1672
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,120
Little River Dance action there.
Yeah. 

1673
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,840
Goodness. 
All right, that was that was 

1674
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,040
fun. 
Chris. 

1675
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,120
Any other, you know, parting 
shots, words of wisdom for 

1676
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,920
people in the playoff basketball
streets. 

1677
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,280
You still got your your gauntlet
trophy over there, flexing over 

1678
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,800
your shoulder. 
Yes I do, yes I do. 

1679
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,600
Hey listen, just have fun. 
Don't get too rate, don't get 

1680
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,960
too upset when you get your 
picks, get sniped and just go 

1681
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,480
for volume man That's it. 
Thanks for having me on guys, I 

1682
01:26:37,480 --> 01:26:39,000
appreciate it. 
Oh man. 

1683
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,520
It's always a blast talking to 
you, Draco. 

1684
01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:46,160
What about you? 
You got a pint of Guinness to 

1685
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:50,320
after this or what? 
Yeah, everyone should drink more

1686
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,800
whiskey and and more Guinness. 
That's my. 

1687
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,760
Any specific types of whiskey 
that you that? 

1688
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,760
You get Tennessee whiskey. 
Get your red breasts in 

1689
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:07,160
Tennessee. 
Oh man, Pat, I know we mentioned

1690
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,840
earlier this week, we do got the
ownership projections if you 

1691
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,920
guys are leg up Subs, if you're 
in the ship chasing Discord and 

1692
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,760
those have been updated 
throughout the day and that she 

1693
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,880
has the most up to up to date 
for people, Pat. 

1694
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,040
Yeah, so I'm tinkering a lot and
just feeds to the sheet that's 

1695
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:28,200
public. 
So yeah, it's it's been updated 

1696
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,440
a bunch. 
I'll be updating it tomorrow. 

1697
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,680
I won't be updating it Saturday 
once kind of we get to you know 

1698
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,640
I'm going to go live life on 
Saturday morning is basically 

1699
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,160
what it is. 
But I'm updating them through 

1700
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:43,200
tomorrow as we build and and get
our teams finalized on Friday. 

1701
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,600
It looks like you've got helpful
time snaps in there as well. 

1702
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,240
Yeah, but we always wind up 
doing all of our shit Saturday, 

1703
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:50,560
yeah. 
We're going to be really busy 

1704
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:51,240
Saturday. 
Morning I. 

1705
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:52,760
Don't know, right? 
Well, I won't be living, I won't

1706
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,920
be living a good life, but I'll 
be living a. 

1707
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:56,200
Life do not. 
It's not. 

1708
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,640
Updating this I'll be living a 
life not worth living. 

1709
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:02,960
Every year you want to get them 
done Friday night and it has not

1710
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,440
happened. 
Yeah, I was imagining myself 

1711
01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:08,320
outside, but you're right, I'll 
probably be clicking people into

1712
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:08,800
line. 
UPS. 

1713
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,840
No, I'll just, I'll just, I'll 
just tell you. 

1714
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,720
I'll be like Pat, don't look 
outside. 

1715
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,000
There's a huge Blizzard. 
You told me you just wanted to 

1716
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,760
find some bunker when there was 
snow in San Diego. 

1717
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:23,840
Just slave away on. 
The outside, but there's snow. 

1718
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,520
Gretch, you said if if people 
weren't satiated with enough 

1719
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,080
Galaxy brain, they can listen to
you and Sean talk about the 

1720
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,120
contest. 
Me and Sean, I, I spent a lot of

1721
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,680
time in that doing kind of 
primer stuff. 

1722
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,840
It might be a little below some 
of these folks, although we had 

1723
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,720
some some good stuff. 
I would say check out Sean's 

1724
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,560
write up at Rodovis. 
It was really good. 

1725
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:46,720
I'll also, I think I scared off 
our our guy Colin, but I had to 

1726
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,040
give him some some crap about 
winning because my our other guy

1727
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,080
here, Chris G last time I saw 
him, we played Cullen. 

1728
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,040
I think he wanted to play us 
like five times in beer pong. 

1729
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,680
Is that right? 
G And we did we ever lose? 

1730
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:03,320
I don't think. 
We lost me and the I was I was 

1731
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,680
so intoxicated. 
That night I had the Irish 

1732
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,960
goodbye like Pete. 
I remember you said goodbye 

1733
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,680
like. 
And then pizza. 

1734
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,880
So I will say I love an Irish 
goodbye and there is a good 

1735
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,120
reason that it's called after 
Irish people. 

1736
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,480
It's because we're so happy 
staff beat us that when you say 

1737
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:26,200
goodbye, people draw you into 
this conversation and you're 

1738
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,760
like, I don't want to deal with 
that, I'm just going to leave. 

1739
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:31,560
Dude I remember walking out with
pee and I was like man this is 

1740
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,720
pretty good. 
Like I just left. 

1741
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:35,440
Oh, the Irish. 
Goodbye. 

1742
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,520
Oh yeah. 
Yeah, Nick and Steph are 

1743
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,200
claiming they won and they're 
saying that people forget. 

1744
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,960
We certainly forgot because we 
were on the table for like 2 

1745
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,120
hours and we're not sober at 
that point. 

1746
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,080
So congratulations on winning a 
game that we were not even 

1747
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,160
functional enough to stand up. 
Well, it's it's nice that Colin 

1748
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:55,360
got invited on the FFPC pod to 
talk basketball because it 

1749
01:29:55,360 --> 01:30:00,400
sounds like he's not getting 
invited on any beer pong pod in 

1750
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,880
the championship. 
Our finale is tomorrow. 

1751
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:06,920
We're going to start a little 
later. 

1752
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,400
Dink and Leone will be joining 
us. 

1753
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,240
Annual tradition a little later 
start so Dink can wrap up his 

1754
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,360
NBA responsibilities. 
And yeah, we'll get some final 

1755
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:21,040
thoughts, maybe have a couple of
cocktails, have some fun, build 

1756
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,040
a couple teams. 
If you guys got questions, feel 

1757
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,800
free to bring those. 
And yeah, we'll, we'll cap that 

1758
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,120
off. 
I'm going to do a big DFS wild 

1759
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:31,800
card preview show with the Badge
Bros tomorrow. 

1760
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,760
So if you guys are interested in
hopping in the BR streets, you 

1761
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,800
can check that out tomorrow 
afternoon at 2:00 PM Eastern. 

1762
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:42,880
Otherwise, it's a glorious week.
May all of your lineup smash. 

1763
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,720
We'll see you guys tomorrow 
night on ship chasing. 

1764
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:46,800
Go Irish.