Playoff week rolls on here at Ship Chasing.
We got a fun hodgepodge show tonight.
We're going to catch up on some of the latest news maybe
impacting our play over the weekend.
We got some updated ownership projections from Pat, who's been
in the lab on that. Then we got a couple of special
guests. We got Draco, who plays a ton on
FFPC, has a great mind for the contest over there.
We'll get some of his thoughts. You guys know him from Stat
Chasing and then Chris G, a former gauntlet winner.
He has been deep in the lab in the underdog streets.
And so we'll also dip our toes and some of the playoff best
ball over there tonight. I'm Pete with Gretch, Pat and
our guests. It's ship chasing.
Let's do it. Pat Fryer, Helmo This.
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I'm hot. Anita hand job.
Fix your sight. Jamar.
Alpha play Chase. You can't handle the heat.
See, it looks like we're finally at this point here, right?
All right, here we go. Right before the show, we were
just saying last time G was on, he was hosting Daigle and you
guys were in different rooms of your house for our Thanksgiving
show. And I think you both were
slamming whiskey, if I recall frankly.
Whiskey, you know, the whole night.
I think at the end of the night we switched to Rome and I drunk
called Pat a little bit. Talk about Yeah, OK, Yeah.
Remember, yeah, I got a call from Chris.
I actually think this is a different call, but last time
Chris called, I was, hey man, what's going on?
Like. Putting a baby to bed, bro.
Yeah, exactly. We got Draco popping in.
What is up? Draco, hey, how's it going?
Sorry, sorry I'm late. No, it's it's.
All real and professionally. Yeah.
What's not the? First time I came on ship
chasing I was like fucking like 10 minutes early in the pre
chat. That's what I'm.
Like a professional view. Yeah, but what?
What are you doing? We have we have a rule here at
Ship Chasing where we say, you know, for our shows, if you're
not here in the stream yard hopper 10 minutes early, you're
late. You are looking very dapper
tonight. You look like you're a physics
professor or something. Pullover sweater and your
glasses. It looks very nice.
Thank you. Thank you.
I was, I was in Ann Arbor for for tenant interviews, helping
helping our our buyer interview our our tenants.
So I have to look professional when it looked like we're we're
a legitimate company that we're selling.
We sell good centers. Well, and now you're finally
bringing some legitimacy to our playoff best.
We appreciate you, Gretsch. How we doing tonight?
Good, good. I recorded a pod with Sean
earlier today about the FFPC contest.
Nobody wants to check that out. And yeah, talked to him for like
a few hours about it. I'm kind of seagull peeled right
now, but yeah, it's pretty fun. Does he have it?
Will he have any teams with Bo Nix on it?
His first team they showed me had Marvin Mims and Devonta
Smith and Jordan Addison, and I was like, I think that's enough
pivots, OK? What's the zoomer opto right
there? No, there's there's the zoomer
opto, that fan. What do we need for?
For Siegel, Opto. Yeah, the the wizard opto or
something. Man, that is hilarious.
Pat, how have you been? I know you've been tweaking and
fine tuning the ownership projections throughout the day.
Yeah, I have. I did.
Like I said, I yesterday I, I was a little bit annoyed with
kind of my feel for the defense and kickers over the last couple
years. So I did.
I was looking at the ETR projections for defence and
kicker and trying to figure out kind of where like like the each
team like how strong their kicker was relative to their
defense. And then like, you know, the
defence is relative to the one another and the kicker's
relative to the to the field. And it got me pivoting a little
bit on where I think the chalk might form because I'm assuming
people like people are going to kind of want to just like play
whatever they think the best plays are there.
So did a little deeper dive on what those plays probably really
are. Got me more on the Chargers D
got me more on the Texans. DI think we you talked about
Pete, that being a soft fade bowl, but I think it might be
the defense bowl. And the other thing that hadn't
really occurred to me is that the Texans were the defense last
year that, you know, won people money by actually being optimal
in multiple games. And so I think, you know,
there's there's a little bit the field won't the field will
probably have that more top of mind than I did.
So little pivot there. And then the kickers, I moved
around as well. I think Zane Gonzalez might end
up being kind of chalky. Everyone thinks he's not chalky
and a great play. Right, so you're telling me that
Field has caught up that he's the kicker for the?
Team Yeah, the field, the field knows he's the kicker now.
Other thing that field was ahead of me on, yeah.
You think the the field's like really, I mean, you're, you're
listening to some of the other content stuff, but really aware
that the Texans D was optimal in two games last year 'cause we're
really in the weeds with this stuff and I barely remember
that. Well, so yeah, so today I
listened to like a ton of content.
Listen to the to to Bulky's pod with Cullen.
I was just listening to the Theo listening to Susan Hubbard.
There's like, you know, I've just been, I've been, you know,
Jacob Sanderson had an Oracle out, Madison Parker had an
Oracle. So I've just been like trying to
get like, give me your thoughts, give me your thoughts and and
try to understand like where the sentiment is.
But like Houston wasn't just a good play.
They were like on the winning team.
So I I don't know, I mean, it's not going to drive a ton of it,
but like looking at their kicker versus their defense.
And then also I reached out to Balky to confirm the scoring
rules for defense. Yeah, it is the new scoring it
the site hadn't been updated yet.
It's updated now. So you want more of a low
scoring game environment than you used to on FPC.
And I think that makes the Chargers, Texans game even more
appealing where like people are going to be afraid to play the
Broncos defense or the Packers defense against good often.
I mean, it's so enticing to play the Chargers defense against CJ
Stroud when he's been so bad for the last Lycas.
I don't know, right? No, he's a walking sack.
I. Mean, but then you have to play
a Texan, which I don't think is going to be even your plans.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah, Nico will get. The other thing is that I think
Nico versus Mixon is not going to be close.
Everyone's going to be on what? Was the scoring change.
It just it's additional level. So before like once you let it
more than 10 points, you was just like nothing more happened.
So now you there's like an additional scale and it goes up
to -2. Once you allow 30 plus or more,
now it's -2 so it just matters more to not allow.
Like a 2 point shift across the board somewhat.
No, because there's additional points that you gain, so now you
get points. From now it's on between.
Yeah, I'll pull it up. That's a pretty big change.
Yeah, it's a meaningful change. Yeah.
So now it's. Yeah, my little group doing the
$200 FFPC 1 is arguing right now about Nico or if we're going to
actually take Terry or a Washington piece.
And I'm like, guys, the game totals 50.
Let's get both of them. And you know, we're just having
a a great little time just discussing it out, just chatting
away at this. It's a fun contest.
Before you got eight points for one and six points allowed, five
points between 7:00 and 10:00 and then nothing.
Now it's that is remains, but now you get 3 from 14 to 19, one
from 20 to 23, zero for 24 to 29, and -2 for 30 plus.
Yeah, so it. Can be a shift of like two to
three points on a couple of the of the outcomes.
It doesn't seem that meaningful to me.
I think that's being overplayed. Like I've heard that brought up
like five times this weekend and it's only like a few of the
outcomes where it shifts at like 2 points.
You still want past tense against, You still want to rack
up the six sack games with three turnovers.
Those are the ones with big points.
I agree with you, but it it does sound like, I mean, we got a
comment on the show about it. It does seem like, you know, you
know, that thing where you feel like you find an edge and it's
like something new that maybe it people won't account for and
then you want to weight it even more than it is.
It does sound like something people want to factor in.
Over what? Yeah, that's.
What Yeah, there's two conversations.
I think 1 is how are people going to play it, and the other
is how should we play it? And I'm fine kind of just kind
of randomizing DA little bit, but I think people are factoring
this in. They're over planet.
Got it. Yeah, So we're going to we're
going to bounce around a little bit tonight.
Let's start just macro. We've had a few different news
things since we last were on the air.
When we were here on Tuesday, Hertz hadn't cleared concussion
protocol. He's back full practice.
So full steam ahead with all the Eagle stuff.
I believe Zay Flowers was officially ruled out today.
There was a surprise one with the Chargers.
Joshua Palmer was ruled out. Not necessarily a huge deal for
FFPC contest but QJ now in and JK Dobbins was questionable
which I think was a little bit of a surprise to people.
Are there any other news notes that you guys have been tracking
today? Yeah, A.J.
Brown was questionable, but they said he's going to go anyways.
But they he didn't practice today.
That's just one thing I noted. Also saw one of the cornerbacks
for Houston I think might be injured and I'll have to double
check that though. Yeah.
So pretty, pretty clean on the injury front there.
Pat, were there any other big ownership tweaks?
You made it sound like a lot of it was going on with the
defense. Are you bringing up Hertz now
that he's officially? Yeah, I brought up Hertz today.
He just, I had him too low. You know, I it's always tough
when you don't know if the guys are going to miss the game or
not. So sort of a holdover or like a
whole. It was in holding pattern with
with Hertz, but now I have him up at 12, which is still not
super high and I think makes him a really strong play.
But it's like hard for me to see.
I guess I could somewhat, I could be wrong and people don't
play Lamar as much as I have it, but I haven't also heard a ton
of enthusiasm for Hertz because everyone wants to play Barkley.
I mean, Barkley is such a smash. So, but yeah, I, I had him like
at 9 and I brought him up to 12 and I might make him, might move
him up a little more than that, but I think he settles around
that range. Yeah, he is a great what do you
win when you win pick where like he accounts for such a high
percentage of their touchdowns. Yeah.
Who's that? Hertz.
Hertz Yeah.
Yeah, and I, I was talking about this in our chat earlier today
with Pat and Leone a little. But I for me, sure, a lot of
people have come around to it like chat saying 12% hurts as
high though. And that's kind of where I was
at. I was like, no one's going to
want to play Hurts. But I kind of came around to it
from the perspective of we're we're saying everything's going
to be Lamar and Allen because one of them has to play three
games. And if it's Allen, he can really
gap his teammates. But if it's Lamar, it's a lot of
scenarios where Henry or Mark Andrews are meaningful and Hertz
can score so much in the tush push.
Main point I'm getting at is we're we're saying one of those
two mobile dual threat, high scoring QBs on the AFC side has
to score play three games in most scenarios.
It's very unlikely that one of them would get upset in the
first round and the other would get upset in the second round,
which is the sort of parlay that needs to happen for one of them
to not play three games. There could be a first round
upset. People may underplay that a
little, but we may not get that Baltimore, Buffalo second round
match up that we're all really expecting.
But even if that happens, obviously then Baltimore or
Buffalo, the one that won is going to be heavily favored in
the second round against whoever they match up with.
But one of them is going to likely play three games.
But Hurts on the NFC side. I mean, the Packers are are not
the same team that they were last year entering the
tournament. They're an exciting seven seed.
People are in on to some degree. They're also banged up a little
bit. Eagles are the two seed at home.
If they win that, they move forward and get another home
game against, I mean by seeds, Tampa.
If Washington beats Tampa, then they would play the winner of
the Rams Vikings. But it's another very winnable
game at home. There's a lot of scenarios where
the Eagles just sort of sleepwalk their way to the NFC
Championship. Not not sleepwalk, but they can
beat two teams at home. They're a good enough team to do
that. And so I, I don't know, I guess
what I'm saying is we're talking a lot about, oh, well, if one of
these dual threat, high scoring AFCQBS plays three games,
they're going to be optimal. But Hertz is like by seed lined
up to, to play three games and gets all these tush pushes and
could be a guy who rushes for like 5 touchdowns in three games
because they're going to go with their best play at the goal
line. They're going to mess around and
try and get Barkley touchdowns. They're going to do the thing
they always do. And I mean, he could also then
beat the Lions and go play four games in the Super Bowl and that
could be achieved. Eagles like to me, Hertz is not
a very different play from Allen and and Lamar other than
certainly the Saquon element makes it a little meaningful.
You have to, there's an opportunity cost equation, but
Hertz could be the QB. There's a lot of ways that I
wasn't talking about. Hertz could be the QB.
And even at 12%, like you're looking at the combination of
Saquon and Lamar being like 1.4 X the combination of Hertz and
Henry. So that's what you're getting
like really nice leverage there to where?
And then you're kind of like, you know, you're hoping that
that's your Super Bowl, right? Like it's a 2V2 where you're in
the Super Bowl with Hertz and Henry and everyone else is Lamar
and Barkley. But it could be that you're in
the Super Bowl with Hertz and Kelsey.
You know, like there's there's not, you know, like obviously if
the problem with Hertz, I think is that Allen is scary as hell.
Like I don't want Hertz and Cook versus Allen and Barkley.
That doesn't feel fun to me. You kind of need to but get beat
by the Ravens. But they could also lose the
Your ideal is they lose to the Ravens, the Ravens lose to the
Chiefs and. Barkley has to get shut down a
little like Hertz has to get those Rush TV's, which directly
impacts Barkley and he has to get shut down a little.
It's not. It's not as easy as I'm making
it out to be, but it is pretty. Logical.
I think the Ravens can make the Super Bowl, though Cullen's
saying he doesn't think it can be right.
I think it can be right. I think Bills are really.
I just disagree with that. You, I, you can't have the
Bills, the Ravens make the Super Bowl is way too confident.
I know Colin's been in here every night this week mentioning
dropping a little bit that he won last year.
He'd like us to let him know that, let everyone know that he
won last year. He's he's the defending champ
right now. We got to give Colin his props.
But I that's, that is way too precise in my opinion.
There's a lot of this contest can go.
Yeah, I I generally agree with it on the Allen side.
I just don't. I just think Henry, like, why do
I need to have Henry instead of Barkley?
Henry in in a Ravens run to the Super Bowl, he's going to be
getting fed. He's going to be going off.
He, he had more rush yards ever expected than Barkley this year.
Dude had an incredible year. So yeah, why can't I?
Why can't I have Henry? Henry over over Lamar Barkley.
That's not like even I'm not stretching the imagination.
Run the touchdowns. Yeah, I yeah, right.
That's like a 4555 thing. Yeah, totally.
Can I pick your guys's brain? Can I pick your guys brain?
Like I got you here? We're talking about NSC Eagles,
but let's talk about the real NSC team that's going to make
the Super Bowl, the Detroit Lions.
Is Jameson Williams a good play in this contest or do you got to
stick with ARSB or Gibbs? I I got to.
Know I think it's tight end premium.
You're also Laporta gets you off massive Kelsey chalk.
So jamo 2 gal brain I think. He's a little.
Gal brain, I think he's a little gal brain too, because you can
get Alman raw. You're probably going to get
Alman raw at like 30% Max. I don't know where you have him
right now, Pat. We have.
I have him higher I because I've heard a lot about Montgomery.
Montgomery's back. I don't know if you guys heard
he's back. Dane Campbell loves to run the
ball. He's going to get that.
So way more than I thought. I think Hassan and Blair were
were arguing Alman raw was the chalk.
I still think Gibbs comes in higher, but I think it's a lot
closer. Gibbs is the state where like
even when Monty was playing he was still scoring good points,
whereas you you've definitely had down games for Alman Raw.
I think the. Yeah, I have 39 Alman raw Gibbs
50. So I still have Gibbs ahead, but
I, I just, I before I had like I think Alman raw 30 Gibbs like 70
or something. And I don't think it'd be that
big not. To think.
Well, I, I Draco, were you saying that, Alman, I, I thought
Almanac actually scored more when Montgomery was in the
lineup. I, I, I was, I, I didn't mean it
like that. I I meant it more as in like he,
he, he, his, he had a lot more down weeks this season than
Gibbs did. Whereas like Gibbs had that like
high floor, just just true to the points distribution.
Yeah, I I think that's the way people will will look at it.
I think with those guys, you know, we were talking about it
with Addison and stuff too. I think if you if you play the
Lions as a A1 and done loss, then like the Jamo plays, you
can kind of see it. But you know, if they get two
games, it's like, can Jamo be optimal for the Lions over 2?
I guess anything's possible, but really unlikely.
He carries that two games. Probably not.
Yeah, you probably, you probably want Jefferson on those, like
you're betting on the Vikings, go beat them kind of thing.
You probably want a commander or two just in case.
Like they win and then go beat the Lions which doesn't seem
likely. That doesn't seem likely, yeah.
It does seem likely, but I think I want I want all the teams live
to I'm like the Lions are losing and so I want all the teams that
could potentially play the Lions you.
Know that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, the man, it was wild.
I was looking at some of the like talking about the Jalen
Hurts kind of sentiment. And granted, you know, there's
not a ton of volume quite yet in the BR streets, but like, you
know, Lamar and Josh Allen are top 10 picks and Jalen Hurts,
his ADP is like 26. Like it there is a lag in
people, I think coming around on him where I just, I think people
kind of made-up their mind. I want to play Allen, I want to
play Lamar, and obviously Hertz is gonna get played, but I
don't. I don't sense like crazy steam
on him right now. I agree, I I just I feel like I
had him too low before. I feel like optimal would be
would be higher like 12%. Still feels like he's a really
strong play to me. No, I do too.
I, I, I actually, I like your 12% as then like I he, he, he
will come in under or he, he very likely will come in under.
Why he should be versus either guys just because he hasn't
played as well. So we haven't seen that ceiling
and. Right.
It's it's interesting too when
you think through like. The identity of these teams and
Gretsch, I feel like you'd be good at talking about this of
like, you know, the Lions are just going to go pedal the
metal. They're going to throw the ball
no matter what. The Ravens will like, modulate
their game plan. Like it could just be an
absolute big dog game against the Steelers in a positive game
script and then they could get in like an up tempo game versus
the Bills and then all of a sudden they're airing it out.
It is interesting. Like I feel like the Eagles
identity, despite Barkley, is still just rolling through
Hurts. You know, like Gretch said, he's
going to get the tush pushes. Like there is almost like
consistency to how you know the Eagles games will play out
unless Barkley's breaking off a 75 yard run.
Like then that can maybe tilt it.
But otherwise, I feel like you know what you're getting with
the Eagles. Yeah, and Green Bay has a has a
decent defensive line too, right.
So they could probably stop him at the one or two yard line.
And there you go, Jalen Hurts all day.
For sure. The Eagles are definitely like
that. I think they're pretty
straightforward. I'm sorry, I was a little
distracted. I got I got to tell Colin real
quick. I wasn't.
I was not trying to bust your balls at all, buddy.
He's. Totally kidding.
All right, G talk a little we're we're gonna bounce around a bit
tonight. GI know you've been doing a lot
of drafts. Any things you've been noticing
like in the underdog market that's interesting to you as far
as like where there's steam, what people are enjoying doing
in these, you know, final hours of, of drafting?
Yeah, the, the biggest thing I can take away from this is at
the beginning when I started this, I was like, oh man, this
is way too quick. But now I'm praying for those
days I mistaken like Lamar, Justin Jefferson and all these
guys right at the beginning because the ADPS were all messed
up. Now I've been leaning more
towards taking these tertiary pieces at the end.
So like, for example, with the injury to Zay on your Baltimore
teams, you have to take, I feel like Mark Andrews at the three,
the three O 2. Basically, you have to, if not,
you're going to get boxed out by the Derrick Henry, Justin
Jefferson guy who's going to take the Andrews and possibly
Bateman at the same time, and then you're out.
Then it's just Lamar, Justice Hill.
And I say likely I mean, but who knows?
Oh, come on, Chris, come on. You're not drafting Nelson
Aguilar and Thailand Wallace. I am, Mitchell.
I am. Are you?
Are you even in the streets? I am bro, I am.
I like, I like Tyler Wallace a lot.
Aguilar is probably going to have a better role, but it's
just you got to click them. Cam Akers is a great pick from
Minnesota, so you can kind of skip over on Aaron Jones and
just take Jordan Addison, you know?
My favorite part of the playoff basketball stuff is that, like,
clicks that initially feel gross just become like, Oh yeah, Tylen
Wallace, like, come on down. Well, that's that's like best
ball of stuff that happens, right.
We've talked about it like the psychology of once you've made a
pick a few times and you've now played it out in your head of
like the high end. Outcome.
And they they retroactively become stronger picks because
you've selected them. And that's the only reason that
it's become better. 100%. And it's crazy too, man.
I cannot get a Lamar, Derrick Henry team to save my life.
I was going through all my gauntlets and I'm like, oh, I
got one. And guess what?
I have next to it, Christian Watson.
I'm like, I'm like, I just threw it.
I'm like, I guess I'm room for the Bills, You know?
I guess I'm room for the bills. Yeah, it's funny though.
I mean, we always, I mean those combos feel good.
It's like we, we see this ship play out over and over.
It's never the the juiciest GMGM combos that are are what you
need to win. It's just what makes you feel
good while you're drafting. Yeah, I was in the the $20 DK
draft yesterday and the guy, the team's so good.
I remember his username is Dorito.
He had Barkley, Hertz, A.J. Brown, Devante.
He got the whole, the whole Eagles.
And then he had, he got like good Chiefs on it, too.
It's it's very tilting the the combinations.
Yeah, he's a he's a locked favorite.
He's a locked favorite if the Eagles go all the way for sure.
Yeah. For sure.
Draco, I, I don't know if you got to check out the the Boomer
Opto show, but do you have any kind of takes on what you think
the market's going to be doing in the FFPC stuff, places you
like to get different? Where you where you at with this
contest? So the one thing that I've been
thinking about for the FFPC is, and maybe I'm I'm getting a
hyper specific cure, but one of the things that ended up being
necessary or are very important last year was you had a big
upset in in in Green Bay against the Cowboys.
And so if you got that upset right in having a in in in in
getting a Green Bay guy and the Green Bay guys were were like
very contrarian and then also got off the chalk with Ferguson
like that. Just that like combination leaps
you forward like just in a massive, massive way.
And like I feel I feel like that's like something too
important to keep in mind. And I'm I'm in like fully
fleshed that tot out. But just for example, if you're
taking Pickens, like there, there's like a variety of ways
that that could work. It's like either it's like some
shock upset and like that could happen.
Like it's a very top heavy tournament.
So like if if you're doing Pickens, then maybe you're not,
maybe you shouldn't have Pickens as as a Lamar team.
Maybe that your Pickens team should be a pivot on on the
Ravens. Just yeah.
So that if you get that, if you get that Pickens pick right,
then you're amplifying how right that pick is.
Yeah. Yeah, we talked about that a
little on Tuesday. Pick the the idea of Pickens,
Allen Andrews as a group, it seems like a really fun one.
I have it on my list of favorite leverage place that's I think
it's a really fun combo. So I was.
I'm just. Looking, I guess just the idea
of like if you're picking somebody on like a heavy
underdog, then you should also pair it with like a pivot on
that favorite team or, or, or or slight fade.
Yeah. Like if you get off Barkley to
A.J. Brown or Devonta Smith, we
talked about how you might want to play Josh Jacobs, you might
want to leave yourself open to the Packers winning outright.
Cause Barkley in two games with three games feels really right.
I mean, I think Hertz does really make sense in in three
games or four games for the Eagles in some scenarios.
But yeah, if you want to play like an A.J.
Brown, like an A.J. Brown, Jacobs is a similar way
to do what you were just. Describing Smith would be the
hurdles. And I think really, yeah.
I I also like what Jericho's hinting at 2 of if you're
picking a skill position player on in a lot of the spots where
there's going to be chalk soft fades or hard fades and how you
can still be right even if you're wrong.
Like if you play let's say the Cortland Sutton thing with Josh,
how most people get a faded or whatever.
Even if the Bills win, if Sutton has that spike game and everyone
faded hard faded, the Broncos and the optimal Bronco to have
ends up being Sutton. Like that is such a huge lever
to pull and you didn't have to nail the upset.
You just made a pivot off of the hard fade, which actually
doesn't even have to be that courageous.
No. I think that's exactly right
because people are not going to pivot off of the Vikings and the
Rams. They're going to play both sides
of that game at a really high clip.
I think they're going to play Bucks at a really high clip.
Washington's not going to get as faded as much as you would think
purely from their chances of winning.
And so I think like you could, you could be looking at like
Sutton versus Jefferson in a loss and obviously Jefferson's a
favorite there. But it's not it's not what
people think. People think it's 9010 and it's
not in A1 game situation. It's just not in a in a, in a
loss with that stipulation. The the likelihood is the
Vikings offense wasn't very good.
Maybe Sam Darnold played a horrible game.
Maybe he threw for 138 yards, right?
Like how good of a game could Justin Jefferson really have
had? Like that's one of the things
that that exists in these scenarios.
You know, did you just say Washington's not going to be
faded as much as I thought we were talking about Washington
being faded. In this game, I think they're
going to play two games, man. I I just think they're so good.
Like, I'm super excited to play Washington, like, Oh, sure.
And you're picking up a win. Yeah.
Especially an underdog man like you.
Terry Mclaurin's ADP is so suppressed compared to like Mike
Evans, Puka Bucky, like you can get him super easy.
And Zach Ritz is like an afterthought.
So you can easily stack three guys with the other two on the
AFC. So.
I play them to make a little run.
Yeah, I mean, I they're, I don't think the Bucks are like
reliable, you know, like they, they've sucked at times.
So you sort of don't. Know and they're only three
points favorites. That's the crazy.
They're only three-point favorites the and I think the
Texans will be faded more than the commanders.
I think the last edge of the money line was slightly better
for the Texans. So I.
Thought in our chat earlier today you were saying when you
were listening to a bunch of stuff that they were a team that
was coming up as as one that people because basically you
have Maclaurin. Or.
Ertz like where else are you going?
Unless you want to make a big bet on Jayden in the FFPC 1 is
what I'm talking. About yeah, no, I think
commanders will be a big, soft, big candidate.
And I got, I got thinking that Zane Gonzalez will end up being
pretty chalky, not like out of control, but like he's it's the
highest level game. So like, give me give me Bucky
and give me the Washington kicker that tells a story.
You know, you got or you frankly Evans or the Washington kicker
doesn't really matter. But I also think people play
both sides of it because the comfiest games to play both
sides of are the Vikings and the Rams, the Bucks and the
Commanders. Because it has such a high
total. The Chargers and the Texans I
think has the lowest total on the slate.
It does has the lowest total. It's like 44.5 versus 50.5.
So I think it's a little comfier to probably play a Charger and
fade the Texans. Or you could obviously go the
other way, play like Nico and get like Chargers D, which is a
pretty, I think they'll be pretty popular, but a solid
play. So yeah, I think the, the
commanders are going to have to be faded at a decent clip, but I
don't think they're going to be like heavily faded.
You go from like the commanders who who are what, 3 point dogs
to the Packers who are like 4-4 and a half five point dogs.
And I have that as a total fate jumping from 40% to 67%.
So it's like a pretty big. What's your, what's, what's your
sense on the Packers, man? Because like, I, I, I don't know
what to do with them because I'm advocating in my group chat with
Wu Tang, Nomar and Jameson like we should just fade Green Bay.
Just say like Philly's going to steamroll and that way he can
open up Washington. That seems to be the sentiment.
The sentiment seems to be Philly's going to win this game.
It probably isn't going to be close.
You can't run on the Eagles, so Jacobs isn't actually even that
good of a play. I don't feel like dealing with
the uncertainty around the the Packers wide receivers.
Even with Watson out, the Eagles are probably going to play a lot
of man. None of these guys are really
man beaters. So it's just kind of like a bad
situation for the Packers, especially since Jordan Love is
nursing an elbow injury. So let me just fade the Packers
and I can go play the highest total game of the week in the
Commanders. I can go play Nico Collins, who,
you know, in a loss could put up a bunch of points.
If I could go play Sutton, Like I can do more fun stuff than
this, like kind of gross Packers, you know, offense.
It's this just going to get shut down.
So I I had, I lowered Jacobs quite a bit because it doesn't
seem like people are really that interested in playing.
It 40% fade Green Bay 67% fade seem like really, really juicy
places for like very small underdogs like yeah, especially
given how like top heavy tournament that that those seem
like prime prime like. Targets to your point about
playing the bracket a certain way and sort of stacking
multiple games together, one thing I want to throw in there
is if you play Tampa or particularly Washington some
some way that you're playing them to to make a run.
Washington if you're playing Daniels or something, I think
you also aren't on the Packers at that point because the like
if Washington wins, I mean, they would still they would they
would probably be going to Detroit unless Green Bay wins,
then they get to go to the winner of Minnesota and the Rams
very different second round game, right?
If Tampa wins, they get to host the second round if the Eagles
lose and they also would play them the Minnesota Rams winner.
Both of their paths get a lot better if the Packers also win.
So if you if you get, you know, meaningfully on.
I think I'm more with you on the Bucks point of that, cause
'cause the commanders going to the Vikings would be kind of
difficult. Rams was nice, I agree with
that. Yeah, but the Bucks, the Bucks
benefit a lot 'cause they get a home game.
They get a home game completely changes their path.
They could be playing in the NFC Championship with help from the
Packers. If the Packers win that first
round game, Bucks are going to be favored.
Probably it's a really NFC. Championship our our the very
sharp Neil Farley says Elamade Zacchaeus is a viable pick too.
We were joking about the Sterler of the week.
That's one of the other seagull ones he came up with.
He he brought up to me and yeah, I believe it's going to be in
his write up when it gets on road of his.
I don't think he. Had a big mitten draft earlier
when I was doing one with the badge Bros and we thought that
was thin in that contest, much less FFCC.
The reason that Siegel gave me was that the Rhodovis matchup
Raider doesn't like Maclaurin's matchup very much.
It really likes Zacchaeus's, and so he thinks that, and it also
likes erta. So he thinks that if you're
going to play the commanders to lose that it's that it's viable
to go with one of the other receiving options, basically.
Yeah, you might get shut down. This is a play where you could,
you could just, this could be the type of game where there's
just like a ton of volume and it's just racking up catches.
Yeah, if Mclaurin like that, his point was based on the matchup,
Mclaurin could just get shut down and be one and done.
And it did get me like, well, yeah, I hadn't really thought
about the specific matchups. You know, you that's the that's
the thing about wild card weekend.
Six teams are going to play one game this weekend and that's
their whole tournament. And you got to think about like
the matchup matters, right? Like that kind of stuff can
happen when you start talking about everybody thinks Josh
Jacobs can't get there in a loss because of the Eagles Rundy.
I'm like a little bit concerned about trying to get into Josh
Jacobs, even if he seems like a very good.
Plus great though that I'm, I don't know, well, at least as
far as the way people play it, I think, I think Terry will seem
fine to people. Well.
Talking their shaky got injured too.
Sorry, go ahead. Talking this through kind of
maybe led me to a good heuristic of where to get unique because I
was laughing to myself as we talked about this where, you
know, we used to always say you could play anyone dot, dot, dot
in a GPP. It's like in the FFPC challenge,
you can play anyone dot, dot dot in a loss in a loss, but is as
you're building out your bracket or your team, you should be more
willing to get contrarian in your loss scenario.
Picks back to that thing we were talking about with Draco, where
you can be right in two ways. Obviously if you're playing, if
you're playing the commanders of the Super Bowl, you don't
fucking want Zacchaeus like on your opposite.
But if you're like, Oh my God, everybody's playing Terry and
they might be playing this bracket as if the commanders
aren't going for a run or they're trying to have their
cake and eat it too with a buck on the other side or whatever.
That's where you start to think about the pivots like the Sutton
to Mims or you know, whatever they may be.
I do like that idea of getting unique in your one off loss
plays in your. Losses, yeah, you really got to
pick the wins and losses and be deliberate about that.
It's the we we talk about this every year.
The optionality is the alluring thing and and people want to
play Jefferson and Akua and play both sides of that game for the
optionality. And it may be right in the end.
That's one that I mean, some of our lineups are going to have
Jefferson and the Kuwait and let's just be real like it.
They're two good, really good plays Like you, you, you do have
to play it a little bit. But if you want to to win this
contest and think about it from the from the end of the contest
back, you're thinking about of those teams at all lost, getting
the highest scores in the losses.
And so you're thinking about like, if I just get more
deliberate with picking the bracket, which is what we always
say and and telling a story, I'm going to be able to potentially
build a team that's pretty unique, but like Mclaurin.
Tampa Bay fade seems fine to me. Like that seems like it's it's
like, obviously you're not you, you don't want it fade Tampa
Bay. But like you can be right on the
corn because they play two games and and and then you combine
that with the Tampa Bay fade. And like, even though Mclaurin
is like highly played, kind of highly played, that combination
will probably be really, really rare.
And I think as that happens. That's super.
That's super viable. In practice, I'm a little scared
about any Tampa Bay fade because they're a team that when they go
down, goes down swinging with a lot of fantasy points.
One just a little seen that bigger set, right?
You guys seen that bigger set, right?
Most Touchdown 69 or whatever in the past like year or whatever?
One of the injury notes didn't bring up, but then dovetails
with this is Kate Auten back to a full practice.
He's a really good contrarian Bucks loss piece because we've
seen him obviously his his big time games were with when Evans
was also out. That was when he was really
consolidating. But it would shock no one if he
popped up for an 8 target game and you know, had a really nice
FFPC scoring day and A and a loss.
For sure. Yeah, I do think the I've yet to
hear anyone say I can't wait to play Mike Evans.
He's such a smash. I've heard that other people
will be playing him. I haven't heard, Oh man, you got
to jam Mike Evans. I've heard a lot of while others
play Mike Evans, I'll be smashing Bucky Irving, the king
of running backs, so I think. I do, I do.
This is what I was saying on the Boomer Opto show on Monday.
I was like, dude, people are going to want to play the
running back. People want to play Bucky and I
think the commander, it's a really high total game, but you
can run all over the commanders. So and then and then you're also
getting the favorite, the home favorite running back and then
potentially multiple games from them.
So yeah, I. I think it was.
How did I wonder? We played a ton of Evans to
pivot off Bucky. All I wanted to do was play
Bucky in this contest, God damn it.
I'm down to play Bucky. I'm just not going to he's.
Not a bad play. No, he's not going to pretend
good shock to eat. That's what's so funny.
He's good shock to eat, but so Leoni, we were talking about
this and Leoni was like, we haven't missed the RB one this.
Weekend we haven't. Rejected for more points than
Saquon Barkley, dude. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's a he's a very good player and that and this is the
thing, right? I mean, this is goes back to DFS
stuff. We're kind of talking about this
with Leone too. Like you can literally play
anyone you want in this contest, right?
Like if you were like fucking Bucky Irving is my favorite
goddamn player. You just have to get unique in a
couple other spots, right? Like there no play is a bad
play. It's just what you do with the
rest of the line up around them. Guys, that's been one of my big
issues is too many pivots. Like I get all excited about,
oh, I'm going to leverage this. I'm going to leverage that.
Yeah. But you do have to play some of
those kind of plays as well. Was was I wrong to tell everyone
in draft season not to draft Saquon Barkley and Derrick
Henry? If Bucky Irving is projected for
more points in the first round of the playoff contest?
I think we're going to do. That lap, maybe spade enough and
then victory lap, that take, I'm just going to do that lap,
Bucky. Was the best play, yeah.
The, the one so note about the Rams in the chat being kind of a
A-Team to fade. If you look at like odds of
advancing to Round 2 versus like how much I'm projecting the team
to get faded. The two teams that really stand
out are the Rams and the Vikings.
Both are, you know, it's it's kind of a a pick em type game.
They have the two highest projected players and it's a 1
1/2 point spread, right? It's Deliria coin flip.
But but people don't want to pick it.
People don't want to have to pick the game and you get
Jefferson and Kuka, you get like absolute stud wide receivers you
don't got to worry about. So it makes sense why this would
be the case. But the Rams are now travelling
to Arizona for this home game. They do jump out as I think a
pretty interesting team to fade where I just don't think people
like because of the two. I think Jefferson's actually a
more comfy fit. Now.
You're probably not fitting the Vikings.
You're probably playing Addison or Hawkinson, but you're hoping
they lose because. And the Rams offense has been
kind of dog shit lately too. Yeah, they and they have a 23
implied team total. The Chargers are 22 1/2, the
Packers are 20.25. So like you're not Yeah, I mean,
it's a decent like 3 points is meaningful, but it's not crazy
like getting off the bucks or at 26.75 I I'm with them.
Like that's hard, you know? Not only that, you got to
consider the human element, right?
Some of their houses are probably burned down from this
fire, you know what I mean? Like, you have a bunch of stuff
going on at home, the stress is hitting you.
You got a playoff game that you got to play in a different area.
The whole rhythm's all messed up for them.
It it would be a good spot if you could figure out how to fade
them without puka going off. I mean, it sucks to say that,
but it's not. That's true.
Randall in the chat said Vikings are going to let their fans down
once again. I, I grew up a Viking fan.
Pat, your brother's a Viking fan.
You probably very aware of this, the Vikings situation here, what
they're going to do to their fans based on history is win
this game and give them more hope and then get absolutely
slaughtered when you think that they actually have a shot.
They they do win the playoff game.
They they have some amazing wins in the playoffs, but then they
lose. Then they lose immediately
after. The Vikings move is to lose in
the NFC Championship in absolutely heartbreaking
fashion. They did lose to the Giants in
the first round a couple years ago, but that wasn't a very good
team. This is a good team that people
will actually start to believe has a shot to win the title.
And that's when they get beat by three touchdowns, right?
Or in a really heartbreaking game, late.
Either way, this is a team that they that loses to Baker
Mayfield in the NFC Champions. That's right.
That's that's what happened to the Vikings.
That's what. Happens of let's see here would
you guys want to want to hop in an underdog draft?
Here we can have the the sidekick and Chris G as our our
copilots and see what we can cook up.
All day, all day. I love it.
All right, how many gauntlets are left?
That's a good question. In my account.
Yeah, let's let's do one. I I still have plenty to go, so
let's do that and. It's at 95% man.
It's going to be done by Friday afternoon.
Jeez. Yeah, yeah.
Pat, you want to tell people you know?
I mean, I know most people watching by now are aware of the
sidekick, but they want to let let them know what they're
they're looking at up here on screen.
Sure. So we got dynamic rankings here.
We what are you got to scroll over because I can't tell which.
Position here it's we're at one O 2.
Over one O 2. OK, so the odds at the top here
represent the odds that they go to the conference championship
game. Once you select the team, it'll
change those 'cause you're now assuming that that team is going
to go to the conference championship game.
But yeah, the real value here is it kind of helps you keep track
of like what you're trying to accomplish in this draft,
building out teams that are cohesive and makes sense.
Awesome. Yeah, so we got the 1/2 here.
This is typically a Lamar spot. You know, Josh Allen always goes
1, Lamar rare rarely falls. Do you guys always do Lamar
here? I'm like 100% Lamar unless
Allen's there. Yeah, same here.
I, I I really enjoy the sidekick too, because it actually helps
you like in the later rounds. Like, hey, don't forget about
Tylen Wallace, you know, that's what.
I Yeah, how can you forget about Tylen Wallace?
He's he's programmed into the sidekick for sure.
Hi, let's do, let's do. Lamar does Devon?
Does Walker ever come up? He's there.
He's usually, he's usually not the top guy, but he is in the
sidekick. He has.
He has shown up somewhere down. Yeah, shown up.
I ignore him most of the time. I have to if you if if if you
try to draft like if you try to draft Devante as the paper
clippy it looks like you're trying to Devantez welcome.
Did you mean Tywin Wallace? God.
Did you beat Patrick Ricard? So how?
Do I know I haven't drafted enough teams?
It's the fact that I haven't thought about clicking Devantez
Walker yet. So it's when you get sniped on
Thailand Wallace and then you're like, that's when you undrafted.
So the good thing here, Pete, is that you have the Buffalo Bills
guy. If he's an intelligent drafter,
he's not going to take a Baltimore Ravens piece from you.
So you can have your pick of Jameson, Devante, JJ, whoever
you want. Who do you guys like?
I've I've done each of those in this spot before.
Gretsch, Draco, you got a like here.
I don't. It's probably JJ for me because
he gets the round one and he's a good player and they got a
chance to go to the Super Bowl. Jameson's obviously more fun and
it's just hard to stack all those guys.
You know, Minnesota's a little easier.
What do you think that? I tend to go Jameson just
because I think the Lions, you know the.
Super balls are better, get there.
One thing about taking Lions that's nice is that it you'd
like sort of freeze because then you're like, oh, I need advance
rate pieces now. But like you're, you've locked
in a team that's the most likely to go to the Super Bowl.
So you don't, it kind of prevents you from getting like
too focused on advance rate because you're building through
the Lions and then that gives you permission to go take Mike
Evans and Bucky or go take, you know, a Pooka or a Chiron or
whatever. So I actually try to it's like
eating eating my vegetables to get to get that bye week.
Team, I like his idea. Let's go back.
Honestly, I honestly like that idea.
But like the problem is like I should have looked at the board
better because James Cook getting picked at the seven hole
should just tell us all we need to know.
And we probably should have gone Jamo because we're probably
going to get La Porta back. But in the past couple of drafts
I've been in, it's like as soon as this guy goes Amon Raw or
Jared Goff or Jared Goff and Gibbs, he's taken every single
thing back. So then you're just left with
Jamo, and then it's like you got to build out a four in one or
five in one. And that's why you get Monty
Monty's The Other One. I haven't been able to get him
lately. Like he just goes by the same
guy that takes Gibbs or another guy.
It's just insane how quick he goes now.
He's not going in the seven anymore.
He's going like early 6, late fifth.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the, I will say the, the
Baltimore and Minnesota is like one of the cleanest pairings
that is. Just.
Easy to get funneled to. It always feels good.
You never really have to reach. So yeah, sidekick likes Aaron
Jones here. We did get sniped on Bateman by
the Henry team. Who's going we.
Could take yeah, we could take Bucky.
Build out a Bucky. Pair together pretty nice.
I like that. Yeah, I'm fine with that.
They don't. They don't play each other in
the second round of most scenarios, unless the.
Was that surprising to you that I like that?
Very good. I like that.
Oh, you did you. Asked me last round if I had a
thought. I was like, I've not done one of
these drafts. I have no ideas that you're like
I'm in. Well, sometimes you're able to
pull off the the Mike Evans and Bucky pairing, which is
obviously fun. That's.
Really fun with. McMillan and or Otten Late.
You know there's still ways to do it.
I'd probably take Aaron Jones here.
Yeah, I think Jones or Addison, we can probably get flowers
later. Yeah, yeah, I guess the only
reason to go Addison over Jones is if you kind of like the
little Cam maker stuff. Late but.
Yeah, we can do that too. That's totally fine.
Let's do, let's do Addison, cuz we're gonna, we're gonna need to
get try to get Justice Hill on this team.
For sure. Which is there's, there's two
famous words if you, if you've drafted a, a Hertz team or a
Lamar team, that's I need to get Kenny Gainwell or Justice Hill
on this team. Or or Allen half the time like
Ty Johnson, like, Oh no, better get ready done this.
I got a question. The Vikings, If all the top
seeds win, the Vikings have to go play the Lions, correct?
So once you take the Vikings, are you more likely to take
Commanders and Packers because you would like them to upset and
then go play the Lions for you and then you have the Vikings on
a cleaner path? In which case, like, was Bucky
not optimal to stack with Jefferson not even locking in?
You, yeah, I mean, sure, But you also, This is a realistic
conference championship game. You need the Vikings go beat the
Lions in Detroit, which did not look like they were capable of
doing the last time they tried it, but they could.
And then. Yeah, Yeah.
A lot of people thought they were going to before that game.
Right, right. I know football's funny.
Like, you know, Stafford or Stafford Darnold was like, if
they don't bring him back, they're crazy.
And then the game later, they're like, I don't know if you can
bring Donald back. So Pete, what do you want to do
here? Do you want to take both
Baltimore guys, or are you interested in getting another
skilled position player like TJ Hawkinson to add to your
Minnesota snack? I don't think Hawkin, I think
the Raven stuff is more important here.
The question is, which 2 of Zay Likely and Justice Hill do we?
Think, I don't think it'll. I don't think it.
Matters. It feels really important
because we have Jefferson and Addison for the first round for
sure, right? I think ZE is the most important
'cause he's like, we, we have a team that's pretty good to
advance. We got like Jefferson and Bucky.
So let's get the guy who, like, helps us the most in the Super
Bowl, yeah? Yep, and that's true inversely.
Like likely we'll see a big bigger spike this week, but then
that will fall back once ZE is back a little bit.
Yeah. I honestly think Justice Hill
will be there at 8:00 and if that we can just take Keaton
Mitchell, you know, for. This is kind of where I'm at.
I think likely is probably the stronger pick just for ADP.
OK, Yeah. You can take Keaton, yeah.
Is the other Ravens guy. I don't think he would go 1/3
running back with Henry and Jones.
He he should. Do you guys have any qualms with
paring likelihood Andrews? No, they're all wide receiver,
tight end, so it doesn't matter to us really.
Like they they, they can score as many points as they want, you
know? I don't either in that specific
offense because I just feel like they play different roles.
I mean they they do eat each other's routes a little bit, but
I'm not like it's like in the season long.
I I'm I would be worried about it drink because I'd be like
some of their upsides tied to injury this and that, but like.
Right, right. Some of the upside is injury.
So drink with the points reset every week so they can actually
ping pong weeks and get. Well, I forget who first started
making this analogy about calling, you know, the the end
game of these gauntlet drafts is like Showdown 2 where stuff that
feels weird or, you know, negatively correlated in our
like weekly or even over the course of the season brands.
It's like you're just trying to get a unique piece in the
playoffs and you'd actually like the Pat's joke, like the ping
pong effect where Andrews carries all those teams and then
they don't have likely that that likely goes off.
It's not really a joke, Yeah. So I Len does only have one
running back. I mean, I don't think he'd do
it, but let's just do it 'cause I don't see anything.
Else does he have Vikings? Would would he take Hock or not?
Doesn't he has Detroit? Philly he's, he's got.
To take a running back here, he's got to take a running back,
Ty Johnson, so he's got to take one of them.
Yeah, he's very Buffalo focused. He should, probably.
Take also also Drico to go back to like Baltimore, I saw like a
lot last week that they were running a lot of two tight end,
2 wide receiver sets even with Zay Flowers injured early in the
game. So like, likely he's going to be
on the field probably just as much as Andrews is, especially
more so now that Zay's injured. Let me ask you a quick question
before we do take Hawk and I, I think Hawk's a good pick, but
like thinking through, you know, Cam Akers and Kate Otten would
be other stuff like are we going to go Hawk Cam Acres or are we
going to try to get another Bucks piece or just play one off
Bucky? I think one off Bucky just to
help us get through like 2 rounds and then Justice Hill
takes over. OK, well hawk's Hawk's a good
pick at this price, so we'll take him and then if for some
reason we. Got Zane McMillan might come
back when when we took. He's already gone, isn't he?
Yeah, He's going to ask when we took likely about McMillan and
then he went at the turn. Does it seem like he might have
shots come back based on where he was in the list?
I was thinking we might. Hold McMillan has super big
buzz. So is Dave Montgomery right now.
But look, I want to point out Terry Mclaurin.
He went in the eighth round. That's insane.
Oh, wow. Matchup.
Yeah. I mean, he's just such a.
Great. Big yeah.
There's some weird there's some weird stuff happening in that
the team who had Evans got sniped on Baker and then still
took McMillan, but then he went back to get Stafford, and then
this drafter is just running out naked Baker as his only
quarterback depending on what he does here, which seems pretty
bad. So this advance is 2 of 5, not 2
of 6. I don't think this guy can feel
the Super Bowl line up, unless I'm missing something.
No, no, he. I mean he.
He well. He just took dart old opposite
Puka. So yeah, he's, he doesn't know
what he's doing. Well, he has.
He has Goff sparkly. No, no, sorry.
I was looking at the five hole here with Baker.
No, I am too. Or I just, said Goff.
I meant Gibbs. Gibbs Sparkly.
Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what.
And then he had one Rams. So sometimes with these, this is
where you you take Aguilar Thailand or Cam.
Cam is. I think, I think Cam, with how
big of a bet we've made on the Vikings.
I'm with you, I I think Cam's a good pick.
And we're still live for a a Baltimore Bucky, You know, Super
Bowl like we'd roll out our 4 Ravens with Bucky opposite.
Totally. What's the what's the
alternative? I I like Cam too but what was?
Our another Ravens dust. Box.
More Ravens. Yeah.
Yeah, more Ravens. A key.
That's what I was thinking. Yeah.
OK. Yeah, I think the acres thing
makes sense. Yeah.
'Cause you don't and you add another running back in a little
little 10 after, right? Yeah, and if Aaron Jones gets
injured, you got the nuts. Yeah.
I mean, that's that's the thing. You're like, same thing in
basketball that we do in BBM. Hope that the starter you know,
obviously doesn't get injured but misses some time you know he
takes a hiatus. You guys want to do one more of
these before we build a FFBC team?
Yeah, yeah, sure. I was going to say like.
Smokes weed in like Africa. He does like what?
Ricky Williams. Yeah, you don't like the gas
patch, bro, You know it's. Just probably just sticks up a
hobby and gets really into it. All right, now we got the three,
which is I feel like 3 is a little bit more of a choose your
own adventure pick. Yeah, I've I've started just
taking Hertz at 3:00. I have like my. 30 Vegas was in
the last draft as well. OK, where is he?
Yeah, he's he's the one. I mean, yeah, yeah, so and so
was the one O 4. He was in our draft as well and
he was going all over the place. So if it's me, I probably take a
quarterback here because I've been trying to take Gibbs.
I'm on RAW forever and I just get sniped.
It's hard, man. So so I'm probably Jalen.
I like the hurt stuff there too. And occasionally you can get
A.J. Brown to to come back.
Yeah, sharp drafters will take Saquon AJ and then try to build
out like Mahomes and help he falls, but it'll probably end up
we'll probably get A.J. Brown looking at this the end
here there's a no badger. He'll probably do something
crazy you. So you would try to advance that
team without AQB in round one? No, you just have to stack up
and hope Mahomes falls to three O 3.
But then you take the he's saying you'd have to he's.
Saying you'd have to get another quarterback.
Would would you do that? Yeah, yeah, if Mahomes has a
buy. So you have to get like Jayden,
Jay, you can get Jayden the 7th or 8th, Jayden take Baker in the
ninth, yeah. Baker, Yeah.
For any time I get a golf for Mahomes team, I'm thinking to
myself, OK, I want the 50 team total game total, which is Baker
Oregon commanders makes sense. Just for the one off.
You don't even have to stack them.
You're just like, oh. Yeah, you can do.
You can do Jayden even. Yeah, I think it's fine.
Those guys go like in the eighth round, 7th.
Round, seventh round, eighth round.
Depending on how crazy people are, you know.
You never have to be in a situation where you're like, I'm
going to take Bonex in the 10th round just to get a quarterback
for round one. And I've seen, I've even seen
you'll sometimes get. Boxed out because people do.
People will do stupid shit. They'll take 3 QBs and you'll be
like fuck Bonex. It is.
I've even seen Sam Darnold. I've even seen Sam Darnold in
the ninth round, like a lot of times, because people are so
scared of that last game. Like he'll fall and you'll be
like, oh, it's a high team total, just take them just to
advance Mahomes or golf easy. Yeah.
And to Chris's point, someone took A.J.
Brown and Barkley, Henry goes, we're not doing a quarterback
here. So we could play.
We probably probably Devante just a lot.
Slim Reaper. It's it.
It's painful when that happens because you're like, man, I'm
just so suboptimal because you're giving Baltimore guy, I'm
on raw, you're giving him probably J MO if this guy
doesn't snipe him, Yeah. Yeah, there's there's Pete
Overset in their draft getting the sloppy Eagle seconds, and
then there's a real swaggy Pete over here cleaning up all.
Right, so not optimal. Perfect.
So let's see, Sidekick likes a chief here.
Yeah, Chief for Andrews, then we just build out you guys want to.
Go Chiefs this time since we did Baltimore last time.
Yeah, yeah, sure. You guys have a preference on
Kelsey or Worthy Kelsey? For me, I think he's going to
show little juice in the play offs, but who knows?
What do you think, Pat? I tend to go Kelsey, but I'm
open to either. The nice thing about this
pairing, it's honestly too much of my Eagles look like this
because you can now get running backs on the chief side and like
you also don't have to like sweat Pacheco cuz you could get
like you can push Pacheco, get a really good deal on him cuz
Hunt's there. It's like it just getting a
Super Bowl running back is not Kenny Gainwell is nice, you
know? This is what's frustrating when
someone's building out the exact same two teams as you and
they're right behind you. That so the the Barkley Brown
drafter goes Mahomes. That's a great start.
Hey Chris, my eyes.
Our team is up here buddy, please.
It's one thing to lust after another team in the chat, it's
another thing when you're on stream with us.
Dude. So I would forego the sidekick
here and I would go Goddard, Yeah.
Well, Goddard's gonna come back to us cuz no one's taking eagles
behind us. The Eagle tractors on the other
side. I would not do that dude, trust
me. People just take eagles for any
reason. It's insane.
It's it's so insane. I'm telling you dude, don't do
it. I mean, you can risk it, but.
I would don't. Absolutely do not.
I guess both the teams behind us have AFCQBS right?
So they might tell themselves when one off piece of an eagle
makes sense. Correct.
Yeah. So like if they're if they're
using the sidekick, they'll be like, oh, let me get Pacheco
because it's being recommended because it's their likelihood to
meet in the conference championship.
But if they're not, they're going to pick like an NFC
opponent. So for me it's like just take
Goddard, hope for the best and Pacheco usually falls.
So. It looks like he.
No, never mind. So let's see, Yeah, Pacheco's
still here. Who know?
I I think this team behind us, yeah, you got to take.
Right. Up.
He's definitely going to take Pacheco.
The other move would be to take Mcconkey play for Hunt and then
we get like a Mcconkey Dobbins thing.
Yeah, we do need skill position. Players to.
Play the the charge in. The second, the charge.
Would play the Chiefs in the second.
Round. True.
We'll go with Pacheco, yeah. Yeah.
So we'll have to. We're going to need to think
about a round one running back advanced piece.
Justice Hill, somebody who's not going to play in the.
Second round, honestly, Ty Johnson, now we're back.
To the Chargers first Chiefs in Round 2.
The other movie would be to try to do Nico Mixon.
Oh, Nico Mixon, that's a good point.
Nico Mixon. Also plays the Chiefs in the
second round. I know, but it's, it's, you
know, it's just to get us through because we have like
Kelsey Pacheco and more Chiefs coming online in Round 2.
We can also do that when you have.
That we could do Mclaurin, a mclaurin and a commander's
running back. Yeah, we could do that.
That's a great point. And no one's going to take B
Rob, so you can get him way late.
It's not a really good, it's not a really good advance piece.
But I mean at this point it's up to you guys really.
Like for me, I would actually. No scenario where they can play
Philly in the second round, right?
Because there's a two seed. They're the six seed, correct?
No, you guys are making good points for me.
I'm sometimes just like, hey, I'll just lose one slot.
That's how I I was thinking like a late Ty Johnson could still
advance you. Does that seem crazy?
It's it's going to be tough likely this like that's more
likely when you're drafting early because there's going to
be like dead teams are drafted like Seahawks and stuff like
that here. Like people are drafting really
good pieces from teams that are definitely in the playoffs.
So it's at. The scores you're going to need
are high. Ty Johnson could score a lot of
points. One little 1 little Juke, right?
That's all he needs. He's been, I mean, they, they,
he's literally says this year they think he's the best third
down back in the NFL. Like he's the reason James Cook
doesn't play as much as he should when he's leading the
league in rushing TDs. It's kind of wild.
I, I really like the commander angle because we get another
really nice commander angle with Mclaurin.
We don't have to worry about Daniels and then we're going to
have two cracks at either B Rob or Eckler, who don't even
project that much differently. That's right.
And honestly I really like Eckler over B Rob.
Just like if they're in a negative game script, just
dumping it off to him be kind of fun.
Well, in this reality, they're in a positive game script.
OK, the B Rob it is. I don't know if you notice, but
this is only half point PPR so those aren't that valuable.
That's true. That's true.
All right, so we got our two. We have a Are we gonna play just
one AFC team on this and not mess around with Ravens or
Bills? We could, honestly.
I think we could also take, we could take Hunt even though we
have Pacheco. I still think Ty Johnson's a
good pick. We could do that.
We could do. Let's take it and play for Ty
Johnson. Yeah.
Could be paid then. No, wait, do you want to take
Robinson? Sorry I I meant late.
Oh, we should take. If we're going to take Tai, we
should take Kincaid right now. And then we'll get Robinson and
Tai. Yeah.
Yeah, we'll get. Robinson I like that because
then we'll have two conference championship games, decent, and
then we'll have a 2. And I like the idea of getting 2
running backs with Pacheco especially.
For what we're. Having 2 is nice.
Yeah. They, I mean, they like Terence
in the chat, said Buffalo probably convinced the running
backs for the playoffs. You play this guys in the plus.
I think that's true in a lot of scenarios.
I'm telling you, Buffalo thinks Ty Johnson is a weapon.
They don't think he's just like a guy that spells James Cook.
They actively care about getting the ball to Ty Johnson.
He's really fast and he can catch.
Dude, he plays so much for his third down role.
He it's he's, he's awesome. I really like him.
I have him a lot in my early teams.
I. Have a lot.
Period. Yeah.
He's when you're talking Pete about like, oh, you got to get
Justice Hill. Can he gain?
Well, he's he's that for me with Allen.
When I have Allen, I'm I'm taking Ty Johnson on a really
high rate. Sorry, shouldn't we do so this
next pick we're is, is Gainwell right?
Well, we only have room for probably, we probably want to
take 3 running backs. So we're deciding between Ty
Gainwell and Robinson. Yeah, I think, I think we're
just building this out like, hey, it's either going to be
Isaiah or Ty in the Super Bowl. Yeah, I think we can skip.
Why are you short changing our? The other move would be to take
we could take Mixon well our. Commanders are going to play in
the conference championship, not in the Super Bowl.
I think. I don't know any of the
dynamics. I think we generally.
I think we take tie and then you can pick between KG or B Rob.
OK, yeah, I mean, normally I feel like isn't you, you
generally like having the running back tied to your Super
Bowl team, which. That seems right to me, Pete,
but does it like, is it different because Kent?
Because The thing is Gainwell's like if Saquon's healthy,
Gainwell's like liable to just not score the whole time.
And I know that's not. I think we should be more
worried about advanced right here because we have, yeah, we
have enough pieces for a Bills Eagles Super Bowl now.
So we have a a running back for two Super Bowls.
That's true. So we think swing back over to.
I think we took that back and. You're trying to get through,
yeah. I think that's the play live
for. It's just project a lot better
like roll wise. Yeah.
Yep. So now our starting line up in
wild card, we have Hertz at quarterback, 2 running back
cracks with Ty and Brian Robinson to fill that spot, and
then Devante, Gotter, Mclaurin, Kincaid to fill 3 spots.
That's nice you you need Washington to advance, but
Robinson and Mclaurin could be key.
You know, if they have a really big game in that high total
game, they could be really key there.
Yeah, you could play two games. You're like almost like in the
top two, top three of the next round to like get yourself to
that one of 10, which is good. Yeah.
And then if Buffalo makes a run and they beat Baltimore and they
get all the way to the AFC Championship against KC,
hopefully you get some help from Ty and Kincaid.
I mean, this. It's an easy bracket to tell a
story on it. Is Pat what?
Would you do here, man? Would you take Matt Collins,
which he just went, never mind, or would you take Jahan Dotson
here to just stack up our Eagles?
Oh, I need it. I, I was going to say Matt
Collins or Noah Gray, but I'm, I think Johan is, is fine as.
Well, too deep, OK. Too thin?
OK, no, I'm, I don't think Johan's too thin.
I've taken him. I just tend to prefer.
I would have preferred Matt Collins.
Dawson Knox would be another way to play it.
What does it? I was going to say, yeah, I
think it should be a bill or a chief.
Should probably be a bill or a chief.
Yeah, So Gray or Knox, what do you guys want?
Any any ball knowers? Gretsch, Draco.
Those are both good. They're like the same play.
They're both good plays. We already have Kelsey.
You kind of want him to score the TDs.
We. Already have Kincaid too.
Oh. Oh shit.
Call it Pete. Knox helps you get through the
first round OK. I like Knox.
Nimble fingers there. Wow.
Call it cut that. Close.
Well, actually I can. I can double click the sidekick
right and it adds it to. You.
I forgot about that. Yeah.
All right. There's this team.
So we did Jalen Hurts, Pacheco, Ty Johnson, Brian Robinson there
at running back, and then Devante Smith, Travis Kelsey,
Dallas Goddard, Terry Mclaurin, Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox
there. Fun team pushed us in some
interesting directions there. Very clean team.
We we did four teams. We didn't kind of break the
rules. Sometimes when I'm doing bye
week stuff, I'll take a mix in. I'll take a, you know, like a,
you know, someone who can't play in the conference championship
game most likely. But I like that we didn't do
that in the state. No, that's that's really good,
Rich. Because me I'll I'll panic.
I'll panic sometimes Like fuck it, Dobbins.
You know what I mean? Like hey.
Yeah, yeah, especially. When you have your kids yelling
at you in the ear, you know what I mean?
Hey. Dude, I had, I had it crash on
me today and I was like opening the app trying to and I was like
I got the app up with like 2 seconds and I was like oh like
fucking Otto Darnold on an Eagles team.
Dude, I'm in the snow playing, making a snowman with my
daughter and because like it's 20 something degrees here and
like we've never seen snow before really.
And literally I'm like getting pinked and what's his name?
The achievers? He's like hey dude, you missed
your first 2 picks. I'm like.
I I was multitasking doing my 3 summit drafts the the three Max
and I had a devastating auto pick in all three of them.
I was like I did draft 1 lead team.
Good thing it's not 5 Max, you know.
Yeah. I just just for my own OCD I'd
have to purposely tank a pick just for the cemetery across
all. So with, with OSU playing in, in
Texas tomorrow, they were saying on the radio, oh, and Texas,
they got one inch of snow. Better be very careful about
that. Those guys don't know how to
handle snow. If you're, if you're, if you're
driving to the game, like leave yourself extra time.
Oh, dude, I won't go out. Dude, I will not go out.
I'm like. She's like, yeah, that's that's
exactly right. I'm literally like, so here's
the thing, it's not, it's not really the people driving, it's
the roads. The roads are terrible.
You don't have plows. Yeah, you don't have anything.
It's all ice. And like I've seen cars just
skate, skate, just going and you're like, yeah, I don't think
it was worth going out to breakfast today.
Oh well, is that? Is that up?
If the weather ever got wonk enough for it to snow in San
Diego, here I I would find a bunker like a tornado warning
was coming like I I would I would get get to safety.
We in in Ireland a couple years ago we we had one inch of snow
or it was like 2 inches of snow and like there was a whole name
for it. Like the whole country shut down
for like 4 days. We called it the beast from the
East 'cause there are literally there's, there's no snow plows
in the country of Ireland. And so like, we were just like,
OK, there's, there's snow and ice here.
We don't know what to do, dude. Literally every everything here
is like, hey, don't go to school, don't go to work, you
know, just stay home and draft teams.
You know I. Think that that was actually the
recommendation from the state, just you know.
They said, hey, just smoke her down.
Hey, promo code Pete, you know, just just.
Get in there. Wow, dude.
And I fucking love Texas, man. I the, the, the marketing there
has really been working. All right, I pulled up a draft
here or not a draft a lineup for us in the FFPC challenge.
Draco, you're a guest of honor, and you've already revealed that
you like to do too much Galaxy branding, so I'm excited.
OK, Oh well now I have. Now I have the Galaxy brain.
No, not necessarily. What I like to think is I want
our guests to Galaxy brain do their, you know, conviction
plays and then we'll smooth it out with some nice chalk.
OK. OK.
I'm going to go with Zuckerts. OK.
All right, coming hot here. Let's go.
I like it. I like it.
Let's see. I feel like maybe I'm going to
be the one that actually spices it up because we've been talking
a lot today about Jalen Hurts where he could come in.
Let's build the Jalen Hurts team.
Hi Steve. I was going to go to Jalen Hurts
team. I was.
Going to pick that too. I was going to.
Pick that too my belt then, yeah.
Hell yeah. All right, Gretch is is OTC.
I'm, I'm pretty mad because I didn't take Bucky on the last
show and we didn't get Bucky on the team and then all I was
trying to accomplish tonight was to get Bucky on the team.
But Ertz starts again, we fade Tampa.
Maybe we play Evans because like.
They're isn't ertz isn't ertz kind of a fade pick on
Washington, is he? It's a wonder.
Done. I just.
Needed to know it wasn't a a completely idiotic pick it but.
It was a great pick. As soon as he picked dirt, I was
I was like, Gretz just gonna smash Bucky here.
We're taking Bucky, Pat, how much do we think because this is
like a real phenomenon and you know, home league drafts, you
know, Yahoo ADPCBS, applet ADP of like the guys that are
buried. I mean, look at how far down
Bucky is in this points per game sorting.
He's like, I just hold down to get to him.
I didn't. I'm like Rashad White is.
Right next to Rashad, white people are like exactly the same
guy. Exactly.
I'm telling you, you might have
to add a default applet, you know booster or or negative
penalty to the the. Ownership project definitely a
percent for Rashad. People will be like, huh, I'll
just pivot over to Rashad. Look at.
That hey, I'll also play Austin Seiber.
Damn, that's the IR all right. Pat's Pat's on the board.
All right, I'm going to go. I'm going to go.
Dalton Kincaid. Wow, speak on that.
We really want the Bills to lose as soon as possible.
And so so that Allen doesn't doesn't make our Hertz pick look
bad. So it's a it's a fade pick.
Now. I could have taken Cook.
That would have been more prudent, which is why I started
laughing. But yeah, don't Kincaid.
It's tight end premium here, guys.
People forget. Yeah, it's nice to be able to
have Liam on the show without having Liam on the show.
All right, Chris, it's back to you.
I'm going to make a same pick here and I'm going to take Aman
Rah. OK, there we.
Go. I feel like part of the argument
for Ernst and Kincaid is that they might be the the tight end
because of of the constraint of tight end but no hammer in the
flex. Or yeah, we just get into the
flex, baby. They're just going to score a
lot of points. Honestly, part of me wanted to
feel how gross that felt, and then the reaction to it was to
the island Kincaid's ownership and I'm lowering him as we
speak. That is fucking triable Looning
picks right now for his. Own for your.
Motives. It's for the people, man.
I need to go wash my hands, that was disgusting.
Yeah, I'm lowering him. I'm lowering him.
OK, Draco. Back around, yeah, OK, So we're
we're predicting heavily that Buffalo loses.
I know. So that preloads Court and
Sutton into our lineup. I think so.
I like it. That's what that was going to be
my pick if you didn't do it. That's a good pick.
OK. So we I still I was thinking
Troy Franklin just to keep up with the thief.
Are. Bins right I got.
A flushing money down the toilet.
Lots of money. Get the plunger in there.
So if we're playing the the Ravens or sorry, the Bills lose
as quick as possible, even if they somehow sneak by, I think
we need the Ravens cruising here.
We can't play Lamar. I think we got to play Derrick
Henry here for sure. Back to you, Gretsch.
We. Need some chalk?
I'm taking poop in the car. This team, this team needs the
the good place right now. Oh, I guess that picks a winner
in that game. Oh, well, we're going to fade.
I think I here's what I'll say. I I actually think if you're I
think puka is really likely to be the right play in a loss.
So I actually think it's easier to fade Jefferson and do what I
was saying earlier with Donald sucking.
So anyway, I think it does because we've already played
both sides of Denver, Buffalo and both sides of Washington,
Tampa. We need to pick a winner in
Texans Chargers we're. Going to pick a winner in all
the rest, yeah? And we need a chief.
Right, Puka makes the most sense.
I like that. I feel strongly that if you have
to pick a winner in that game, you want to pick it through Puka
and fade Jefferson side. Which is weird, but.
I'll go Xavier Worthy. Man stole my Thunder there.
Stole my Thunder. That's a clean pick.
So flex kicker defense. We haven't done anything with
Steelers, Chargers, Texans, Texans and Vikings.
Vikings. Packers All right, I'm going to
let our illustrious Rico take the last flex.
Throw up the defense for me, please.
Yeah. So we were talking about Houston
and Lac. What do you guys think would be
the best pick here? I'm kind of leading, Let me see
kind of leading Chargers because like they got a good defense,
maybe Houston wins. I kind.
Of like that's the last flex it it does limit Draco's flex
options if you take the chargers or the yeah.
Do you? Who do you like?
Trico. The Texans?
The charters. I I honestly think that if we're
picking a defense in that game, we should pick the Texans
defense. Let's do it.
Because I think the Chargers defense will be popular and I
don't think the Texans defense will be you.
Go with. That I really you don't think
they'll be? I have.
I think I have them as a chalk. The Texans defense.
Yeah. Well, that's the reason I, I, I,
I don't think so is because like you have the, the, you have the,
the Harbaugh like run game stuff and like quarterback is playing
well. I I know they're a popular fade,
but. I just think people like fade
the Texans. You know what?
Right. Remove this Houston team defense
for me, please. There's too much uncertainty
here. Yeah, move it out, please.
Yeah, get it out. Let's take it out.
And I'm going to just switch the kicker and I'm going to take the
kicker. I'm going to take the best
kicker of all time, Chris Boswell.
Because you saw this comment, Terrence said.
I'm smashing Boswell. Pitt scores 4 figures.
And it dude, the guy, Yeah, the guy, the guy, the guy's crushing
it dude. Just going with the going with
the chat. I like it, man of the people.
That's it. All right now, jerks.
Open for Ricard in that Dome game.
He's going to make a couple 50 yarders in this loss.
In the neutral site Dome game. Yeah.
All right, so we still need Chargers or Texans.
Chargers or Texans? Yeah.
You want Mixon, Dobbins, Mcconkey, Nico I.
Just do Nico. Team can do some Nico.
So can I throw one quick thought out since you were kind of
indecisive. We are playing Hertz and we're.
Playing not indecisive enough where you get your time in the
end in time. So we're just going to
completely fade JJ, is that it? Pretty much right?
Well, I was going to say, who do you think can actually beat the
Ravens? And, and for me it's the
Chargers because you're playing, you're playing Henry and you're
playing Kincaid and you're kind of saying Buffalo.
We just said we think Buffalo might lose in round one.
We kind of don't want Lamar to play three games either.
I mean, Henry can get there, but it'd be a kind of my tie break
would be towards the team that I think is more likely to actually
beat the Ravens. Maybe that's the text, who
knows? Let's play Nico.
Yeah. And because it's also like we're
playing Hertz too, so we're already kind of saying he's
going to be out scoring Lamar even if yeah, they both make.
It hurts. Of the championship, yeah.
Yeah, right. And we're saying the combo of
Hertz on Henry outscores the combo of Lamar.
Right. Yeah, and because I picked
Worthy instead of Kelsey, I think we actually want the
Ravens to go to the Super Bowl and have Henry go nuts, which is
like, totally live. Because you picked 2.
Worthy instead of Kelsey. We got off the Kelsey chalk.
Not that Worthy can't outscore Kelsey, but.
It's. Hard to get that Dunkin Cade
pick every time I keep looking at him just like like raising
an. Eye pat did too.
It was just a twisted experiment.
Social experiment, apparently. Yeah, I mean, I need to.
I had him at 6%, way too high. It was way too high.
Now I know. All right, so then that leaves
our defense. Who are we going to do with our
defense? I feel like fading Minnesota is
the most unique, but at this point I don't know how unique we
need to be. Draco, are you?
Minnesota's got a good D though, so I actually think that's kind
of fun pick. Yeah, you're a Notre Dame.
Fan kind of my wife. Seems to seems to think that you
are. That's the most racist.
Thing. I've ever.
Heard Shorty Vegas pick suggests that we could pivot Kincaid to
Jefferson and just do a bill's fate.
I'd be down for that. I'd be fine doing I I'm I'm fine
switching my with. With all the off the board picks
that we have that that seems like a good way to bring it back
I think. Yeah.
So what do do? Bill's fade who?
And then? You could do Bill's D if you
wanted. Yeah, Bill's.
D Bill's D is probably the move, yeah.
Yeah, let's do that. OK.
There you go. Draco's it true that you're just
off screen. You're eating a bowl of Lucky
Charms right now. I'm actually doing a like a an
Irish dance under the table as well.
Little River Dance action there. Yeah.
Goodness. All right, that was that was
fun. Chris.
Any other, you know, parting shots, words of wisdom for
people in the playoff basketball streets.
You still got your your gauntlet trophy over there, flexing over
your shoulder. Yes I do, yes I do.
Hey listen, just have fun. Don't get too rate, don't get
too upset when you get your picks, get sniped and just go
for volume man That's it. Thanks for having me on guys, I
appreciate it. Oh man.
It's always a blast talking to you, Draco.
What about you? You got a pint of Guinness to
after this or what? Yeah, everyone should drink more
whiskey and and more Guinness. That's my.
Any specific types of whiskey that you that?
You get Tennessee whiskey. Get your red breasts in
Tennessee. Oh man, Pat, I know we mentioned
earlier this week, we do got the ownership projections if you
guys are leg up Subs, if you're in the ship chasing Discord and
those have been updated throughout the day and that she
has the most up to up to date for people, Pat.
Yeah, so I'm tinkering a lot and just feeds to the sheet that's
public. So yeah, it's it's been updated
a bunch. I'll be updating it tomorrow.
I won't be updating it Saturday once kind of we get to you know
I'm going to go live life on Saturday morning is basically
what it is. But I'm updating them through
tomorrow as we build and and get our teams finalized on Friday.
It looks like you've got helpful time snaps in there as well.
Yeah, but we always wind up doing all of our shit Saturday,
yeah. We're going to be really busy
Saturday. Morning I.
Don't know, right? Well, I won't be living, I won't
be living a good life, but I'll be living a.
Life do not. It's not.
Updating this I'll be living a life not worth living.
Every year you want to get them done Friday night and it has not
happened. Yeah, I was imagining myself
outside, but you're right, I'll probably be clicking people into
line. UPS.
No, I'll just, I'll just, I'll just tell you.
I'll be like Pat, don't look outside.
There's a huge Blizzard. You told me you just wanted to
find some bunker when there was snow in San Diego.
Just slave away on. The outside, but there's snow.
Gretch, you said if if people weren't satiated with enough
Galaxy brain, they can listen to you and Sean talk about the
contest. Me and Sean, I, I spent a lot of
time in that doing kind of primer stuff.
It might be a little below some of these folks, although we had
some some good stuff. I would say check out Sean's
write up at Rodovis. It was really good.
I'll also, I think I scared off our our guy Colin, but I had to
give him some some crap about winning because my our other guy
here, Chris G last time I saw him, we played Cullen.
I think he wanted to play us like five times in beer pong.
Is that right? G And we did we ever lose?
I don't think. We lost me and the I was I was
so intoxicated. That night I had the Irish
goodbye like Pete. I remember you said goodbye
like. And then pizza.
So I will say I love an Irish goodbye and there is a good
reason that it's called after Irish people.
It's because we're so happy staff beat us that when you say
goodbye, people draw you into this conversation and you're
like, I don't want to deal with that, I'm just going to leave.
Dude I remember walking out with pee and I was like man this is
pretty good. Like I just left.
Oh, the Irish. Goodbye.
Oh yeah. Yeah, Nick and Steph are
claiming they won and they're saying that people forget.
We certainly forgot because we were on the table for like 2
hours and we're not sober at that point.
So congratulations on winning a game that we were not even
functional enough to stand up. Well, it's it's nice that Colin
got invited on the FFPC pod to talk basketball because it
sounds like he's not getting invited on any beer pong pod in
the championship. Our finale is tomorrow.
We're going to start a little later.
Dink and Leone will be joining us.
Annual tradition a little later start so Dink can wrap up his
NBA responsibilities. And yeah, we'll get some final
thoughts, maybe have a couple of cocktails, have some fun, build
a couple teams. If you guys got questions, feel
free to bring those. And yeah, we'll, we'll cap that
off. I'm going to do a big DFS wild
card preview show with the Badge Bros tomorrow.
So if you guys are interested in hopping in the BR streets, you
can check that out tomorrow afternoon at 2:00 PM Eastern.
Otherwise, it's a glorious week. May all of your lineup smash.
We'll see you guys tomorrow night on ship chasing.
Go Irish.