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All right, good evening. 
Good evening. 

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It's Thursday, but there's no 
ship cast. 

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There's no pick Em's. 
But we do have lots to 

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celebrate. 
We figured we'd do a little 

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season in review, talk about how
our high stakes teams finished 

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up with Steph, who led the 
charge for us all year. 

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We're going to have Sean from GO
Bills GO, who took down the 

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puppy coming on in a bit, as 
well as one of our friends who 

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took down the big NFC best ball 
contest that we drafted mini 

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teams in. 
And I've been told behind the 

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scenes might even have to shout 
out at DeMarco this Robinson Tao

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from this show. 
So we're going to do all of that

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tonight on ship chasing. 
Let's get to it. 

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Pat Fryer, Helmo. 
This is why This is why I'm hot.

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Anita Handjob. 
Fix your sight. 

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Jamar Alpha, play Chase. 
You can't handle the heat. 

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It looks like we're finally at 
this point. 

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You're right. 
All right, we got the crew here,

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the normal ship cast crew. 
It felt weird, guys, to have a 

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Thursday afternoon where we 
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get our pick em entries in. 
It's nice, yeah. 

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It's it's nice that there's not.
There's a nice game this week, 

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Nice that there's not a 
walkthrough for me to ride on on

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this particular Thursday. 
So I've enjoyed this Thursday, 

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yeah. 
Gretch, how are you doing? 

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We got to hear a little recap of
your big trip. 

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Go Huskies. 
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lot of this week felt different 
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So my Thursday wasn't so, so 
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Sunday. 
I'm usually right here watching 

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all the games on my on my, on my
computers and I was instead in a

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sports book in New Orleans. 
Got to watch that Husky game on 

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Monday night that was pretty 
intense. 

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But yeah, it's been a been a 
wild week for me for sure. 

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The last ship cast a week ago. 
I mean, it feels like that was 

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like 2 months ago. 
It really. 

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I want to hear more about the 
trip real quick. 

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Steph, how you doing? 
Wavers. 

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Long gone. 
Does it feel good to be done 

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with the season here? 
You know, it's one of those 

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mixed feeling things. 
It's like, yes, it's nice to 

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have a little bit of a break, 
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you're kind of sad it's over. 
That's how I was like, yeah, my 

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Thursday was a little more chill
and then I'm like, but I didn't 

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have any Showdown lineups to 
build. 

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I didn't have any pickums to 
build. 

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So yeah, I I feel you on that. 
Yeah. 

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Gretch. 
Like what? 

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What was the highlights? 
Other than obviously your 

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Huskies winning, any, any 
notable moments stuff you you 

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survived Bourbon Street thanks 
to Cooter Doodle's tips. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
We all survived. 

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No, no big, you know, scary 
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that. 
You didn't buy any lettuce. 

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I didn't buy any lettuce or any 
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real. 
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down with a buddy of mine. 
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highlights was the drive down 
just with with my buddy who like

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I I got Steph. 
You'll you'll be able to talk 

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about this. 
I gotta go to a Bucky's for the 

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first time they they apparently 
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In Texas. 
Yeah, so I'm actually a horrible

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Texan, and Tyler made fun of me 
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I've never been to Bucky's, but 
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bathrooms and beef jerky. 
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And then I like, I bought my 
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there they had like hundreds of 
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these little Beavers and there's
insane. 

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I mean, it was a it was a it was
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We got barbecue on like the side
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the middle of Alabama, and then 
we found out like after we're 

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already eating that this guy is 
his last day. 

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He he's been cooking BBQ at this
place since 1987, since the year

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I was born and it was his last 
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And that's a good sign. 
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It was. 
Incredible shout out it was. 

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It was Mr. Goldsmith Gold 
Barbecue in Atmore, AL. 

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That was fantastic Bourbon 
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A lot of walking in New Orleans,
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Got got a lot of steps in. 
There was a a parade or a yeah, 

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parade, right? 
Does that recall the floats and 

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everything? 
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yet. 
That's what that's called. 

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A procession. 
What do you call these? 

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Ate some good food? 
Went to, you know, a fun Spotted

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Cat Music Club for New Year's. 
I've been there. 

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Good, good music. 
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I mean, it was a blast. 
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fun. 
The, I mean, obviously the whole

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thing, the Huskies win was kind 
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I'm excited, though, to hear 
about how our teams did all that

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stuff. 
Sunday was wild. 

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It was a whirlwind. 
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right around the corner and the 
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Orleans, I didn't ever really 
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like where we finished and all 
this stuff. 

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So I'm kind of excited. 
With the the idea, yeah. 

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Why? 
I mean, we we have so many 

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things and sweats and stuff to 
cover. 

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How about before we pull up 
Steph's piece, that kind of is a

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good way to do an overview of 
how our team's finished Quran. 

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Why don't you tell us a little 
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Sunday? 
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near the top of the leaderboard,
per SE, like there was a moment 

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there heading into that Seattle,
Pittsburgh game where you were 

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very live if certain things 
broke your way. 

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Yeah, so the Breeze game on 
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And then we have the game 
Saturday where I I was telling 

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drip beforehand like I kind of 
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There's like a few ways this can
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can blow up and then I'm 
actually a little bit thin 

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because like, it's just going to
be like me holding hands with a 

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bunch of teams that have this 
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need it. 
Or it could be like totally dud.

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And then I'm completely relying 
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So I'm not dead, but I'm feeling
pretty dead. 

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And then the other thing is that
it can kind of like go off, but 

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not fully. 
And that's probably my best case

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scenario because as long as like
the piece that I need, you know,

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I get big scores out of a couple
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different in other spots. 
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You know, I had CD and I at the 
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I absolutely needed was a tight 
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So I got Laporta to get to like 
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I was like, I can, I can live 
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And then heading into to Sunday 
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path, but he didn't need to have
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As the day went on, what I 
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But at one point I was like, I 
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game. 
But yeah, I mean, it really was 

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like I needed Gino and at least 
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a really strong game. 
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happening, I was like, I can't, 
I can't take it down. 

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But it was still fun to have 
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Him and Bruce be my most drafted
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He almost had an even bigger 
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Rudolph had him wide open for 
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But yet I have to say, I mean 
sweating like Pete Carroll, like

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hoping Pete Carroll will play 
aggressively and then watch him 

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him call a game like Pete 
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It's a little soul crushing but 
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As someone who's rolled out like
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weeks this season, like, I trust
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Like, I I don't know why I keep 
ramming my head against that 

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wall, but it is a painful sweat 
trying to get Pete Carroll to 

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pass it. 
Really. 

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Is you're muted gretch? 
Sean and I did the the similar 

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thing where we decided to well, 
we didn't really decide to. 

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We lost from Andre and then we 
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Goff Almond Raw on Saturday. 
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on Thursday. 
We're talking about this on 

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Thursday night. 
We rose all the way to 3rd in 

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the FFPC going into Sunday, but 
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But having lost having lost 
Jalen Wild the week prior from 

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Andre a few weeks earlier, we 
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ended up landing on cow pits. 
We literally talked for the hour

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before Locke about either Josh 
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actually a a real conversation. 
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And anyway, this sweat you were 
just describing with Pete 

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Carroll was very similar to mine
with cow pits. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Arthur Smith and Pete Carroll. 

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What a great place to be. 
Yeah, But I'd end up being. 

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I mean, I finished. 
I ended up finishing 36th, which

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is still very fun. 
You know, to have to be in the 

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mix and have a sweat. 
And then I I ended up taking 

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down a smaller the Big Dog 3. 
So best ball manning three to 

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the Big Dog three is is is a 
year later. 

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But did you also finish? 
In that one or did you kind of 

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run away with that I? 
Kind of ran away with that. 

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No one really had. 
AI had like 170 points or 

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something and I think the next 
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120, a 130 even with the Sunday 
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I was just yeah. 
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the I was in the Bulldog 2 and 
that one I was looking really 

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strong for 2nd and then the 
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The final touchdown that he 
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3rd there. 
So that was that was my like 

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real sweat, which didn't go 
great And then I was like locked

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into third like that. 
I had a big big league for 3rd. 

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So Mccaffrey's injury there kind
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But yeah that was that was the 
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I finished luck. 
It was like luckily in that the 

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three tournaments I really cared
about were the ones where I got 

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good scores and then I was in 
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Didn't do much there and I was 
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Chow didn't do much there, so at
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Know there were a lot of people 
kind of sweating how you were 

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doing in the palm. 
No one, no one, no one really 

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checked in on that one yet. 
You mentioned you mentioned the 

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Jordan Love game. 
I would say are like in within 

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the ship chasing world, our 
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Boomers Sunday sweat there with 
Jayden Reed absolutely surging 

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down here. 
I know you have this one written

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up here, Steph. 
We ended up finishing in 7th 

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place overall in prime time. 
And where do you remember where 

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we were heading into that game? 
Steph on that team? 

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Well, we're back 86 spots, so 
don't make me do the math in my 

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head. 
Yeah, so in in the 90s there, 

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93rd overall heading in and then
just a total surge in that game.

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And we we were starting to get a
little greedy too, 'cause we're 

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looking at how could we go up 
higher and then JD Reed actually

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ends up leaving, leaving the 
game. 

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I mean, you were very, yeah, we 
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It was quite a big jump still to
1st, but there was only, you 

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know, a handful of points from, 
you know, probably 4th through 

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7th. 
They're like it would have 

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easily another couple catches 
and you know it's so top heavy 

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that just moving up those couple
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But both the prime time teams 
started off back-to-back, so you

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kind of saw the tail of two 
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What can happen in that final 
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One went up and one went down. 
I think it was fun too, right? 

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Because this was the team where 
we had Devante Adams, right? 

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And you know, he had a, you 
know, overall down year, a few 

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spike weeks. 
But to get I believe this, this 

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had to have ended up being his 
best game of the year, right? 

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His his Week 17 game it. 
Has to. 

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Be I mean, I think he had 
another 40 point game somewhere 

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in the mix, but it was way early
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It had. 
It's been a while since he's 

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done anything and Bijon still 
little better but not great, you

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know? 
Yeah, this team, like, you look 

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at who was in our starting 
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players that surged late. 
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late. 
You got the one massive George 

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Pickens game in Week 16. 
I mean, Laporta was consistent. 

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Right. 
Oh, you do. 

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You do and you don't. 
On this team. 

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We didn't play Pickens. 
We didn't play Pickens. 

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Oh, what is this? 
What is this screenshot from 

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here? 
Steph. 

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No. 
We played. 

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We played in this past week, but
not in weeks. 

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Yeah, I was like you played him 
because you sat JSN and then it 

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was between deciding with Reed 
or Dobbs. 

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We played in week 17. 
We didn't play in week 1621. 

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Gotcha. 
Oh, and you were supposed to do 

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it the other way, playing Week 
16. 

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I think he was good in both, 
right? 

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He was good in both, yeah. 
You won him for Week 16 though 

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for. 
Sure would have been nice and 

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played him in the first one 
because we would, I mean would 

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have jumped even further. 
Yeah. 

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There were talks of people were 
thinking he was going to get 

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benched and stuff. 
I mean, nobody was going to 

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start him at. 
The No, I mean, I I did not. 

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I'm when I'm when I wrote him up
in the walkthrough, I was like, 

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yeah, you know they keep 
cannibalizing each other. 

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It's not. 
It's annoying. 

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Like I was not particularly 
optimistic, but. 

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Yeah, so, yeah, Awesome to see 
this team finish so strong here.

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I missed this sweat entirely 
'cause we went, we went out on 

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in in Bourbonshire and 
everything. 

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I remember I was checking in and
it was halftime and I was like, 

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how do you people on? 
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time. 
I was in Central Time. 

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How do you guys do this? 
Where, like, the game started 

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7:00 PM out here on the West 
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9 PM, 10:00 PM We were like out 
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There's games on. 
It's just like. 

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Man, that's just that's just how
everyone lives. 

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Yes, it is. 
How it works everyone but West 

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Coasters. 
It's confusing, so you know. 

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It's a way of life here, Steph. 
Talk about our waiver chasing 

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team. 
We end up finishing in a 155th 

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here, a good season, but 
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that playoff stretch. 
No, like I well, like I said, we

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kind of had the opposite 
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went way up last week and we're 
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we started lower and then we 
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then we fell. 
So, you know, I was really 

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optimistic, OK, you know, 
wanting to think that Kelsey, 

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like this was the best spot, if 
there was ever like a spot, you 

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know, playing Cincinnati against
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they're one of the best teams. 
And he did absolutely nothing. 

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We already talked about the 
Gino's sweat, how that went. 

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So we sat Stafford and went with
Gino. 

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Wasn't that big a difference. 
It wouldn't have mattered. 

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We had some disappointing 
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You know, Swift and Gibbs didn't
do it for us, so. 

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Yeah, I mean, Kelsey was. 
Obviously a. 

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Huge disappointment all year. 
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disappointed with kind of like 
the second-half for DeAndre 

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Swift. 
I mean that kind of run out for 

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him. 
It seemed like it was gonna. 

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I always remember we did that 
ship cast. 

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It was the commander's game and 
he was running so well on that 

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Thursday night and in hindsight 
it was the fresh legs and the 

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commander's defense that was 
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And it Well, I don't know. 
The Eagles just haven't looked. 

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Especially the defense, but. 
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And then they keep rolling out 
gain well too and stuff so. 

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Yep, question had both the 
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pairing, which was a pairing we 
had on on many teams. 

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I would say our worst sweat was 
losing first place. 

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In our 2500 with Leone, we end 
up losing by just a couple of 

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points. 
We had a 1V1 essentially down a 

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couple points to their Tucker 
craft, our Ty Chandler and 

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there's just a million. 
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basically any you know, 
Christian McCaffrey touchdown in

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week 16, him not leaving the 
game early, us playing Kenneth 

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Walker instead of Ty Chandler 
this week. 

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Like guys, there's so many ways 
we let $9000 slip out of our 

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hands. 
And I and I kind of like you 

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know once we knew that Walker 
was going to be in, I kind of 

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like re asked was like but he 
was still then dropped you know 

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on ETR which you know Leonie 
worked for. 

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So we kind of you know assumed 
that was his lien is what his 

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projections say. 
You know they they docked him a 

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little bit from where he was you
know with the injury situation 

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and you know we thought that you
know with CMC and Purdy and you 

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know all these guys that it 
wouldn't really be close. 

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So it was like played the same, 
you know, we thought play the 

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safer guy that there's not some 
sort of injury concern with or 

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you know, leaving early. 
So it makes all the sense in the

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world just to. 
I mean. 

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I remember when we're in. 
When Warren's scoring points for

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my PBM team, I remember thinking
like, well, this doesn't even 

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really matter because Ty 
Chandler's going to outscore him

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and not like I felt that way 
until he was like, you know, 

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above 15 points. 
And I was like, well, then he 

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might, maybe he doesn't get 
there, but like, I I don't know.

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I felt very confident that 
Chandler was going to have a 

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good game. 
Yeah, I think we all did. 

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Yeah, so you look at this, this 
was a team, we had a pretty 

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giant lead. 
And then you just look at these 

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scores across week 17. 
I mean, Iuke had a good game, 

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but I mean Gibbs in a shootout, 
environment 5.3 points. 

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CMC leaves the game early, 
Devante, 6 points. 

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You know Drake London's Drake 
London Laporta was fine but 

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Chandler 9.4 even our defense. 
This was the dark side of the 

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big breeze hall in The Jets. 
The Jets gave to his our Browns 

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kicker a defense. 
I guess the defense was fine at 

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14 but man that one stings. 
It. 

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It literally guys was like what 
a 2 1/2 point swing. 

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So first place in the 2500 was 
14K and 2nd place was 5K. 

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So. 
We did sweep the regular season 

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payouts for another 5K, so I 
mean, it still was a very 

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profitable league. 
But yeah, that Nine K drop, the 

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the, the lesson from that 
roster, I think. 

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I mean, we just didn't have 
enough receivers. 

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This is a team where Leoni 
really wanted to take Marquis 

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Brown at one point. 
So we just had more receiver 

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depth. 
And I know I was pushing for us,

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taking on a swing. 
I think it was a Quinton 

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Johnston who didn't hit. 
I mean, not that Marquis Brown 

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wouldn't necessarily, but I 
don't think he played last. 

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Week, right, But Drake London 
not. 

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Really. 
Drake London. 

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Not really hitting. 
I mean, even though we were able

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to play 3 receivers most or 
three running backs most weeks 

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and have the porta like our 
wider 3 wide receiver, three 

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spot was an issue the whole year
on this team, yeah? 

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It was. 
But you guys still killed the 

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competition. 
I mean, you were in the regular 

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season like you said, you got 
the sweep with regular points 

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and 1st. 
I mean, it's still turned out 

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strong, but I agree that because
you have to start like 3 wide 

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receivers in this format. 
Yep, yeah, this is, this will 

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definitely go down just 
collectively as our best ship 

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chasing portfolio year had a 
very profitable year across both

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FFPC and NFC. 
It just it just stinks. 

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Yeah, it's nice to tilt about a 
team where you finish first in 

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points, first in record, and 
then barely didn't win and got 

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second. 
I mean, that's obviously very 

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tilting, but it's a so it was a 
hell of a team. 

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It's AI mean what's yes? 
And then also like after week 

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15, we were up by like 100 
points. 

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Like I didn't even think this. 
Was. 

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Possible, I know, I know. 
Well, on Week 16 you got within 

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three. 
They caught up because you had 

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those that that really bad down 
week and 49ers and stuff. 49ers.

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Well, that's what did it is the 
week because then they were only

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like 3 points behind that second
place team. 

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So it was pretty much neck and 
neck this week. 

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Starting even grounds. 
Yep. 

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The Silver Bullet team this. 
We really enjoyed this contest 

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on NFC. 
Obviously a single entry 

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tournament, but it is a very 
tight and top heavy contest. 

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We're only the top ten get paid 
additionally there we finished 

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13th. 
So just outside of the money 

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there, but this was this was a 
fun team. 

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And like, I thought we were 
gonna finally get there, 'cause 

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you we had the Lamar Jackson 
Isaiah likely stack there in 

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Week 17, but just not enough to 
push us in there. 

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'Cause you were in 7th place 
also on this one the week 

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before. 
This is another one where week 

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16 was was pretty devastating. 
Or the Yeah, or 15, yeah. 

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We were up there after 15, if I 
remember. 

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I was in. 
Teams, yeah. 

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That week 15, Cook has the tough
like it's on. 

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We had Cook on several good 
teams and after week 15 they 

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were looking a lot better than 
they were after week. 17. 

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Yelp. 
Yeah, James Cook has those. 

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What ends up being back-to-back 
down games against the Chargers 

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and the Pats really, really 
hurts. 

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And then you basically just have
to pray you have the right combo

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of running backs around him. 
But yeah, to not get to take 

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advantage of the Lamar Jackson 
Isaiah likely. 

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Like if you show up to the 
underdog tournaments with those 

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guys at the finals, like you're 
shipping, you know? 

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So yeah, but really enjoyed that
single entry. 

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We then head down to our FFPC 
main events, our Chase and Go 

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Bill squad, which what was 
quarterback list for both Week 

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15 and 16 it. 
Was and it because it scored 

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like 200 points without a 
without a quarterback and then 

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you lost, Well, you and monster.
Yeah, yeah. 

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And that was the problem, 
because then you lost monster. 

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And then we still didn't have a 
quarterback. 

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Well. 16 was a disaster. 
You got a quarterback? 

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In the 17. 
Players, and we had to start 

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Chase Brown and and Logan 
Thomas, as you know. 

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I mean, those were not our 
'cause. 

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This was a really, you know, 
strong team pretty much all 

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season and really deep. 
So we were not like. 

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Yeah, it felt like it had a real
chance to win the whole thing 

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200. 
Points without a quarterback, 

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yeah. 
This team was sick. 

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This team was sick. 
It it was one of the better 

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teams, yeah. 
Yeah, ended up again being 

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another profitable team because 
we got the full sweep I believe 

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right, for that one first place 
in the regular season. 

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So shout out Daryl AKA Alex 
Keaton. 

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We had a blast drafting with him
live in Vegas and there's 

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certainly ways that this team 
breaks a little differently 

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where it is just a an absolute 
Uber smash there really like how

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we constructed this one. 
The team that we had that 

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collectively finished the 
highest in the main event was 

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our minisodes team. 
The first slow draft we did ends

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up finishing in 130th place. 
Another kind of James Cook, 

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Jalen Warren team that didn't 
have most dirt. 

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Got the big CD Lamb Brandon Iuke
stuff, but just couldn't piece 

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together all of our alpha wide 
receivers like going Nuke at the

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right times. 
And we were pulling the levers 

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all over the place doing the 
Geno DK stack here. 

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And you know we also have Debo 
on this team. 

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We benched him just trying to to
to to increase our likelihood of

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climbing in in that final week. 
Yeah, Did did Metcalf end up 

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outscoring Debo? 
It must have been close, right? 

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I'm not sure. 
I. 

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Think touchdown, but didn't do 
much else. 

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I think Debo got under 20 still.
I think it was like maybe 17. 

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OK. 
Yeah, I mean, it was. 

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Two weeks in a row in the first 
week it was did did get us 

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points. 
He had 18.2, so yeah, he had a 

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little more, OK. 
Yeah, what do you what do you 

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guys think? 
I mean, A.J. 

448
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,520
Brown was another guy, right? 
What did he have that string of 

449
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,040
five straight 125 yard games 
there? 

450
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,560
At one point. 
And then just really fell off. 

451
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,120
Yeah, he he was pretty 
disappointed. 

452
00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:01,280
Not as disappointing as Smith I.
Just pulled up his game out. 

453
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,840
Didn't have a 20 point game 
after that stretch of the 125 

454
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,280
yard games. 
Only had one more 100 yard game 

455
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,880
the rest of the year and closed 
the season the the fantasy 

456
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,040
playoffs. 
Three straight sub 15 point 

457
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,640
games. 
And plus daughter was out. 

458
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,280
It was weird. 
And it's also tough, like this 

459
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,640
was a zero RB squad that was 
absolutely loaded. 

460
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,160
This is a team that had Jordan 
Addison, Deontay Johnson, some 

461
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,600
other wide receivers you might 
consider. 

462
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,000
But it's like it's probably 
similar to the Stefan Diggs 

463
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,360
thing too, right? 
Where it's like you just feel 

464
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,880
like you can never bench them 
like you can't. 

465
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,480
You don't want to bench that 
profile. 

466
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,840
You know what they're capable 
of. 

467
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,720
But in a way, they can end up 
being like kind of a roster 

468
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,880
clogger if they never return to 
their form. 

469
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,080
Right. 
I mean, CD was also kind of in 

470
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,760
that mix where he got a little 
quieter and then he blew back 

471
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,320
up. 
So that's like kind of why you 

472
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,000
feel like you can't do it. 
I think A.J. 

473
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,120
Brown does have that nuclear 
ceiling that, you know, CD just 

474
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:01,200
showed off. 
So do you. 

475
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,200
Guys have any thoughts? 
Because we've we've wrestled 

476
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,200
back and forth every year. 
We always do that first slow 

477
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,240
draft, kick it off around 4th of
July. 

478
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,800
When they open them up, everyone
always kind of debates. 

479
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,160
Do you want to draft early? 
You want to back load them? 

480
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,800
I mean this team seems like a 
pretty strong indication of some

481
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,320
of the values we were able to 
get early that weren't 

482
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,920
available. 
Like James Cook was going what, 

483
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,480
4-5 rounds higher when main 
events wrapped versus where we 

484
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,920
got him. 
We took him at 711. 

485
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,960
He was a fifth round pick by the
end of main events. 

486
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,920
Yeah, I mean I think this, this 
tournament probably rewards the 

487
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,720
early drafting super team 
element a little bit more than 

488
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,640
you know something like best 
Balmania. 

489
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,320
You know because like you can 
miss on more picks and getting 

490
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,480
because you because you have a 
waiver available to you and 

491
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,480
having like unique combos that 
you show up to the Sprint with 

492
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:04,160
is more powerful. 
So yeah, I mean, I, I really 

493
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,280
like this team's like very fun 
and definitely I think one that 

494
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,400
benefited from drafting early. 
So obviously, you know the team 

495
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,480
we just talked about with 
Darrell was when we drafted live

496
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,040
in Vegas. 
So you can build really strong 

497
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,720
teams there too. 
But I do think it kind of gives 

498
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:26,080
you like this team not only was 
strong, but I mean we had so 

499
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,440
much depth that we were able to 
do some interesting lever 

500
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,040
pulling in the tournament 
itself, whereas our other teams 

501
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,280
were kind of more like, all 
right, this is the roster and 

502
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:40,040
it's not really up for debate. 
Dom adds some an interesting 

503
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,120
note there in the chat. 
That first place this year, 

504
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:43,960
second place last year drafted 
after week 1. 

505
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,880
Before this year, my previous 
high team in in the FFPC was 

506
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,440
also drafted after. 
TNFI think there's there's pros 

507
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,480
to both basically, right? 
Me too. 

508
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,880
Yeah, there there are. 
And I also would say this year 

509
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,520
specifically had that reverse 
thing where it's very rare 

510
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,600
you're going to get players like
Jonathan Taylor and Cooper Cup 

511
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,840
as mega discounted as they were 
in those mains right before the 

512
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,760
season started. 
That felt a little unique. 

513
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,240
You know, normally the values 
are moving in in the other 

514
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,600
direction, Kelsey. 
Tip and Kelsey. 

515
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Yeah, I think my takes were late
this year. 

516
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,680
I think my take would be that in
the early window, like I I think

517
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080
my take would be that you, you 
need to draft differently. 

518
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,200
You need to be very aware of 
when you're drafting and how 

519
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,040
you're drafting right? 
And it's OK to just take, you 

520
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,600
know, the singles or whatever. 
We called A.J. 

521
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,480
Brown a triple when we were 
doing this draft. 

522
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,240
Like some of the more the the 
safer picks. 

523
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,200
One of the things when I'm 
looking at this draft, I'm 

524
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,480
reminded of when I pulled up the
draft board and saw James Cook 

525
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,080
at 7:11 was that big debate we 
had about Jordan Addison or Evan

526
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,280
Ingram. 
At 8:02, we ended up taking 

527
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,520
Addison. 
He was great. 

528
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,440
I know there was a point this 
year where I was like, thank God

529
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,320
Pat got us on Addison. 
It actually turned out that we 

530
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,640
didn't play him the last like 
five or six weeks. 

531
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,240
Didn't even consider it really 
because of how deep our other 

532
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,080
receivers were. 
We started this draft with six 

533
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,880
straight receivers and I do 
think Ingram would have been in 

534
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,080
hindsight, the pick because we 
never really found the tight end

535
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,440
ceiling. 
We ended up taking Greg Dulcich 

536
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,760
the next round and and didn't 
really ever have a legit tight 

537
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,280
end and he's sort of this like 
Ingram is sort of this example 

538
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,640
of a player that I do think 
earlier James Cook and we took 

539
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,320
Deante Johnson in this draft who
wasn't great. 

540
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,640
But it I mean I I think you want
to take bigger swings late right

541
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,400
like the Kyron Williams pick was
more clear at at the very end of

542
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,680
of draft season. 
People were getting more in on 

543
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,800
that type of like a huge swing 
late in the draft and like a 

544
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,120
little bit of a safer, more 
careful, more value oriented 

545
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,680
draft strategy. 
If you're drafting in July, like

546
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,440
is that seem fair? 
Yeah. 

547
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Although I guess my we can next 
year when we have the same 

548
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,520
argument we can time out with 
your guy at the top of the 

549
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,840
queue. 
But, but I still think like the 

550
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:14,320
Addison pick to me, I mean like 
it wasn't Johnston even or 

551
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,800
Flowers. 
Like, I just felt like Addison 

552
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,200
gave us a like a value. 
Like he wasn't usually there and

553
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,320
he gave us a lot of upside late 
season at the wide receiver 

554
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,920
position that we ended up not 
needing at all. 

555
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,200
But I I still feel like. 
Usual, right? 

556
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,720
Because normally the whole thing
we say is like some of these 

557
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,400
guys are going to be Buss, some 
of them are going to get 

558
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,840
injured. 
It just so happened that our 

559
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,000
four horses, you know, pretty 
much stayed healthy and within 

560
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,320
the top 20 wide. 
Receivers, we did start with 

561
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,960
six, We did start with six 
straight receivers. 

562
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200
And I do think there's an 
element of drafting like you're 

563
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,400
right to some degree, even in 
season long. 

564
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,120
Well, I'm saying that it 
wouldn't have felt like we had 

565
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,040
so much depth if what normally 
happens plays out, which is you 

566
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,640
get the injury or you get the 
bust. 

567
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,440
These guys, like, didn't bust or
get injured. 

568
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,560
Right. 
But shouldn't you be drafting 

569
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,560
for the top 1% outcome is what 
I'm saying. 

570
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,920
We're like the if you start with
six straight receivers you you, 

571
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,320
I, I, I, I I felt at the time 
and I I think looking back on it

572
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,040
and again I I said in a period I
was glad that we took Addison. 

573
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,640
But I think, again, looking back
on it now that I think there's 

574
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,240
an element where you're 
drafting, when you take these 

575
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,920
six early receivers, you can't 
draft scared like, well, what if

576
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,200
three of these guys bust? 
Like that's then we're fucked. 

577
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,680
Yeah, that's not really what I 
was feeling. 

578
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,160
I was kind of feeling more like 
A.J. 

579
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,800
Brown is A.J. 
Brown. 

580
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,520
But then, you know, if he pulls 
A hammy and we start Addison 

581
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,360
late and like, you kind of have 
this, you kind of have this 

582
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,000
monster team that like nothing 
can stop and you're just like, 

583
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,880
doesn't matter, Doesn't matter, 
'cause you have this rookie 

584
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,320
breakout, it gives you this, 
this late season upside hammer 

585
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,480
that kind of takes a team to 
another level. 

586
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,280
It's kind of my thinking. 
It's tough because Ingram was a 

587
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,240
much better pick than I thought 
he would be. 

588
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,920
So if you have that, it was like
an evaluation miss there. 

589
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,480
And then we also like, ended up 
with Laporta on a million of our

590
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,200
teams, but not this one, he 
went. 

591
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,360
He started going really early, 
though. 

592
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,200
Laporta like later in draft 
season. 

593
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,240
Very late, yeah. 
He actually went, he went eleven

594
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880
O 2 in this draft he went. 
OK, that's pretty early. 

595
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Yeah. 
That's probably the way he 

596
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,800
didn't get them. 
Yeah. 

597
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,120
Let's hit on a couple of these 
other ones real quick before Dom

598
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,080
or sorry, Sean. 
I get all the the Go Bills guys,

599
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,680
They're all the same to me. 
No, I'm just kidding. 

600
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,320
I'm excited to adapt tonight. 
The five force men. 

601
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,600
This was our other team in the 
FFPC Sprint with our rotoviz 

602
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,480
brethren here. 
This one was starting to come on

603
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,360
of late. 
It was another Breece Hall 

604
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,480
Garrett Wilson team. 
Again, pretty strong finish in 

605
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,240
Week 17. 
You know you get the Breece Hall

606
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,800
stuff, you get Laporta Rashi 
Rice really coming on, but just 

607
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,440
a little too late for this team 
and some kind of big duds in 

608
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,880
there at times. 
Bijan really kind of bringing 

609
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,880
some some stuff down for sure 
and. 

610
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Garrett Wilson had a down week. 
We're hoping to see a lot more 

611
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,720
out of Bijan in the the playoff 
weeks and just didn't get it and

612
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,720
this team was needed to make up 
a lot of ground. 

613
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,320
Yeah, I mean, it won its season,
so it just had, it had then it 

614
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,200
kind of fell off in the first 
couple weeks in the playoffs and

615
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,760
started pretty well. 
Bijon is going to have like such

616
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,160
a sick 4th year. 
Whenever Arthur Smith is gone, 

617
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,880
can. 
You please just get fired. 4th 

618
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,840
year Steph tell us about your 
team with Wu Tang Killa Bees 

619
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,960
Christie. 
You guys ultimately finished in 

620
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,560
86th place. 
Really nice year there. 

621
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,240
Yeah, so if we one more spot and
we would have gotten the free 

622
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,720
entry to main event. 
So we went down $500.00 for the 

623
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,880
last game. 
But yeah, we had Lamar, who 

624
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,280
obviously had the huge game, 
Warren, who, you know everybody 

625
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280
had. 
We had on and raw. 

626
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,320
We're really stacked at receiver
'cause we had a lot of injuries 

627
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,160
to our receivers late, but 
luckily we were really deep, so 

628
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,120
we still. 
That's a nice start because you 

629
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,240
know, Nico. 
And then we had Keenan Allen we 

630
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,920
didn't have for the playoffs. 
We got lucky that Nujoku came on

631
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,680
late. 
That was huge for us because 

632
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:30,000
tight end was a big weak spot. 
And then we ended up getting 

633
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,960
mayor and you know, he didn't 
play either. 

634
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,360
So that was our only in the 
tight end. 

635
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,680
We tried to leverage the kicker 
and defense a couple times. 

636
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,240
Luckily, I insisted on starting 
Houston defense. 

637
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,680
I was like, no, I just we need 
to do it. 

638
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,760
But I said Sanders both playoff 
weeks. 

639
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,920
Oh jeez. 
Yeah, so that that hurt. 

640
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,160
And then we have Addison on this
team also, which we missed the 

641
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,960
first week where he went off and
then we played in the week he 

642
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,560
got hurt. 
Yeah, this is a really nice team

643
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,239
now seeing all these players and
having like the hits, like, I 

644
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,040
mean Nico Collins, you know, 
when he was healthy was a total 

645
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,840
league winner. 
I mean, David, the joke we talk 

646
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,840
about like tight end, premium 
league winner right there, I 

647
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,040
mean, just scorched the earth 
down the stretch, some really 

648
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,800
nice picks there. 
Silva, Silva and I had Njoku on 

649
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,960
a team that was in the injuries 
team. 

650
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,199
That team ended up finishing 
13th with Silva. 

651
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,040
Really. 
Wow. 

652
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Just like on the back of Njoku. 
On the back of Njoku is another 

653
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,040
almond rod team. 
Paris and Etienne are the two 

654
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,400
that I made him take that that 
he was really bad about. 

655
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,360
This is the one we got into a 
huge fight about. 

656
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:44,679
We also have Kyron Williams on 
this. 

657
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,159
You got a huge fight. 
You finished 13th. 

658
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,080
So fucking. 
Secret. 

659
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,360
So good. 
Well Steph, we're going to bring

660
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,400
Sean on here in one SEC. 
But again, just want to 

661
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,680
punctuate how thankful we are 
for all the work you put in this

662
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,560
year. 
It was awesome that we were able

663
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,520
to have a successful year with 
the team that we collectively 

664
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,680
drafted. 
It doesn't always work out like 

665
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,280
that, and it's definitely a 
testament to all the work you 

666
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,920
put in. 
Like all those little edges each

667
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,080
week it just seems like 1 little
edge, but you stack them up and 

668
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,800
then you look across the 
portfolio and you can really see

669
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,760
how it played out in a really 
nice way. 

670
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,040
So thank you again for all your 
hard work. 

671
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,720
No problem. 
It was, it was great working 

672
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:33,280
with you guys and I had a blast 
doing it and you know, I look 

673
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,160
forward to working with 
everybody and you know working 

674
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,120
with Pat here and we got good 
things coming this year. 

675
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,200
So we. 
Do, Yeah. 

676
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,680
We're going to run it back next 
year. 

677
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,240
We're going to take down some of
these top tournaments. 

678
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,960
You know, each year we keep 
leveling up 2024. 

679
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,360
That's the year we we take it 
down. 

680
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,280
Right, Steph. 
I think so. 

681
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,600
I can feel it's going to be our 
year. 

682
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:56,640
If for some reason you guys are 
watching this and not subscribe 

683
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,440
to the fabulous newsletter, I'm 
going to drop a a link to the 

684
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,360
most recent post we were just 
looking at. 

685
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,280
Holy cow, that's a wild link 
there. 

686
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,440
I'll, I'll get a better link 
there. 

687
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,080
Getting all kinds of tracking 
cookies. 

688
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,400
Let's try that. 
Make sure you guys subscribed 

689
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,320
and stuck. 
You said you're going to do 

690
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,560
maybe a little bit of other 
writing throughout the off 

691
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,040
season. 
Yeah, you know, maybe every 

692
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,000
couple weeks. 
We'll see. 

693
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,320
It might be still every week. 
Just depends on how busy I am 

694
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,360
every time. 
But I'll try to, you know, just 

695
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,680
kind of whatever I'm thinking 
about with that relates, you 

696
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,720
know, football life a little bit
here and there, you'll see. 

697
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,520
Well. 
I don't always plan it out ahead

698
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:37,920
of time. 
That's. 

699
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,320
All right. 
You got to, you just got to be 

700
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,120
inspired. 
That's how that's how it works. 

701
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,160
All right, Steph, we are going 
to bring Sean on now, but thank 

702
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,960
you again. 
It's been a blast getting to 

703
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,080
check in with you throughout the
year on the ship cast. 

704
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:51,240
You're the best all. 
Right. 

705
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,000
Bye guys. 
Hi, Steph. 

706
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,760
All right. 
And now coming to the stage, the

707
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,440
formerly most unheralded member 
of the Go Bills crew, It is Sean

708
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,920
Stutzman. 
I mean, I was Googling your your

709
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,040
name. 
I was trying to find stuff for 

710
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,280
the thumbnail and I saw that 
your other two partners did an 

711
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,560
actual interview on local Bills 
TV and you weren't there. 

712
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,560
I was sick. 
Yeah. 

713
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,440
I was under the weather and and 
the boy and then and the guys 

714
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,920
were able to make it on. 
I was at home. 

715
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,560
I believe I had to actually. 
I might have had COVID. 

716
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,920
It was that when I got COVID 
that year, I believe. 

717
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,600
So yeah, they were. 
They were on channel, I think 

718
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,560
Channel 4 News in Buffalo. 
I'm sitting at home watching 

719
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,200
them live talking about all the 
stuff we're doing. 

720
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,560
I'm just like, hey, you know 
what? 

721
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,320
I'm not. 
I'm not complaining. 

722
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,120
Not complaining at all, 
obviously. 

723
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,600
We've had a pretty good run so 
far. 

724
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,280
Does this make up for that or is
a little? 

725
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,360
Short little bit. 
You know what? 

726
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,200
You know, shipping the puppy on 
my own dime feels that's not the

727
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,240
worst. 
Yeah, that's not the worst. 

728
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,640
Yeah see we're we're trying to 
do the go Bills GO thing in 

729
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,000
reverse. 
So it's like you guys 

730
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,400
collectively win the million and
then you win the puppy. 

731
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Pat won best Palmania and now 
we're collectively trying to win

732
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,400
one of those big tournaments it.
It makes sense. 

733
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,440
Just do it in reverse. 
You know, you, you gotta, you 

734
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,400
gotta repeat though, That's the 
tough part, is you gotta go 

735
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,280
back-to-back and that's not, you
know, it's not something that's 

736
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,600
done every day. 
I I know I blew it there. 

737
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,560
Maybe maybe you can. 
So you wouldn't that was exactly

738
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,600
that. 
That would be pretty. 

739
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,520
That'd be pretty sick. 
I. 

740
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,560
Can't believe I won once, Yeah. 
Pete, I was hoping you and I 

741
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,360
would just ship the the BBM on 
our team that almost got into 

742
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,600
the final. 
I mean, we didn't. 

743
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,440
We didn't need Pat to be right 
along with us. 

744
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,760
He's already a freaking million.
I already have written in my 

745
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,840
head. 
Groucho's like all caps. 

746
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:46,280
BBM goes through ship chasing a 
lot, and it was right after that

747
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,560
that CMC didn't score a 
touchdown and the team didn't 

748
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,080
advance so. 
Brutal. 

749
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,120
How? 
How many times did that happen 

750
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,840
this year? 
CMC didn't score the touchdown? 

751
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,000
I mean, I know, yeah. 
So what is it like? 

752
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,360
Obviously you've been playing 
FFPC for a while. 

753
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,120
At what point did you start 
getting into the underdog 

754
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,120
streets? 
Like what is the the back story 

755
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,840
to you ultimately winning the 
puppy here? 

756
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:16,840
Yeah, so I dabbled very lightly 
in 2021, maybe 20 teams across 

757
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,480
the whole thing. 
I I discovered it then the year 

758
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,000
we won the FFPC the first time. 
So I just played around with it 

759
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,800
a little bit. 
Last year I did about 500 ish 

760
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,520
teams. 
I did like 100 or so in BBM and 

761
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,640
enjoyed it, didn't do that 
great. 

762
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,680
We the the three of us, actually
had a bulldog team that made the

763
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,080
final week but finished last. 
I had a puppy team that got made

764
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,440
like 3K, but this year after 
shipping the main event again 

765
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,960
and I was just like, you know 
what? 

766
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,840
I'm 'cause I played poker a 
little bit as kind of a side 

767
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,120
thing. 
That was I was just doing 

768
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,040
fantasy football and poker, and 
I decided I'm going to take a 

769
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,240
step back from poker and try to 
aggressively play basketball, 

770
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:02,400
fantasy football, and see if I 
can make any runs, do anything 

771
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,400
crazy. 
So I ended up with about 1000 

772
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,520
drafts on Underdog, and then 
about 600 more. 

773
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,520
Across drafters and DraftKings, 
Max rushed a bunch of stuff. 

774
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,800
Yeah, I was, I went pretty 
aggressively after it and and of

775
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,800
1600 teams, I put 6IN week 17. 
So it's like you can do that 

776
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,600
much work and get only six teams
at week 17. 

777
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,040
But I happen to have one of the 
exact right ones that you needed

778
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,880
to to make the money. 
So you know, it worked out. 

779
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,360
It worked out pretty good. 
But it was, I mean it was a long

780
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,320
grinding summer. 
I mean, I was in, you guys talk 

781
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,400
about slow draft hall. 
I was probably in 400 slow 

782
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,920
drafts at one time during the 
summer. 

783
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,680
At different times, I think I. 
I think I got the 250 at most 

784
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,720
and it was. 
It's it's a lot that was. 

785
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Way too many. 
What did you, what did you, what

786
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,840
did you Did you just draft them 
as they came up or how did you 

787
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,320
approach it? 
Because I'll tell you what I did

788
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,520
after you. 
I'm curious what you did. 

789
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,400
Yeah, you did that. 
I did. 

790
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,280
He selected Breeze Hall and went
to the next one. 

791
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,240
Yeah, basically. 
But I I. 

792
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,520
I'm trying to even. 
Remember I would I did not have 

793
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,480
like set times that I would 
check them. 

794
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,120
I kind of like I was sort of 
just constantly be checking them

795
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,120
and just blast in. 
I would just like sort of blast 

796
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,600
the picks in and I. 
There as many as you can. 

797
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,120
The the thing I did, the only 
way it was doable for me is that

798
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,160
in the early rounds I would 
force myself to like star the 

799
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,040
the teams. 
You know star the the team of 

800
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,240
the guy that I selected in the 
the team that had week 17 

801
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,160
correlation. 
So that like at least had like 

802
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,560
that. 
That like just helping me 

803
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,240
understand like the build that I
was making and what I was like 

804
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:47,400
looking to do. 
And you know by the time you get

805
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,760
to like round 910 like that was 
the only way that I kind of had 

806
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,160
any sense of what I what I was 
trying to build. 

807
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,280
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

808
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,280
And that that makes sense. 
I I was so because I this is all

809
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,800
I I I was doing. 
I was, I would just set. 

810
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,760
I would set alarms on my phone 
every six hours and every six 

811
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,560
hours I would just get on the 
computer. 

812
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,520
And that's the only thing I 
would say if you're ever doing 

813
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,320
volume fantasy football and if 
you draft and if you make any 

814
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,560
picks off of your phone, you're 
you're destroying your EV. 

815
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:19,440
Every pick you draft on your 
phone, you're killing EV. 

816
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,000
So that's a, you know, if you're
ever, if you're drafting any 

817
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,640
kind of volume. 
And things kind of agree with 

818
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,760
you, but expand on it. 
Well, you have access to 

819
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,720
everything. 
There's so much more information

820
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:32,960
on your computer, right? 
If if I have any data I have, 

821
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,080
it's not going to be on my 
phone. 

822
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,040
Anything I'm looking at. 
Sure, I I know who everybody I 

823
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,600
you have every, every, every 
week, 17 matchup memorized by 

824
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,440
June. 
But like, you don't need to 

825
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,280
memorize. 
No, obviously not. 

826
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,640
Those aren't those aren't really
relevant. 

827
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:50,080
But if you use a tool like Spike
Week, it gives you all the all 

828
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,000
that so much useful information 
while you're drafting. 

829
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:54,280
You can't use that on your 
phone. 

830
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,920
You don't have access to the 
kind of data that makes it a 

831
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,800
little easier to understand the 
way your whole portfolio looks 

832
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,080
at one team and how you're 
spreading out certain things. 

833
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,360
If you if you're trying to not 
be too aggressive on certain 

834
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,160
players, you know you don't want
to. 

835
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,000
I don't personally think you 
should go off the deep end like 

836
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,800
a, you know, Liam used to, you 
know, a spot was maybe going 

837
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,920
crazy on certain guys. 
That's not that's never been my 

838
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,920
thought process. 
Where are you kind of setting 

839
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,840
the line for exposures and 
stuff? 

840
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,520
Try to keep it under 25% if you 
can. 

841
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,760
My most own player across 
everything was Brock Birdie at 

842
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:37,960
about 25% and I think that's 
probably where you want to be 

843
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,640
just because otherwise you're 
going to, you're putting 

844
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,040
yourself at such high risk for 
not that much more reward, 

845
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,000
right? 
How much more reward is it to 

846
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,320
get that, those extra 15 shares 
of a guy when you're the the 

847
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,080
risk that you're taking by 
adding fifteen more potential 

848
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,800
dead teams. 
If that guy isn't who you need 

849
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,680
him to be, it's it's very risky.
So you know as you get the laid 

850
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,720
around you can be more 
aggressive obviously, but 

851
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,840
anything or anything relatively 
early you got to be pretty 

852
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,240
cautious with I think. 
So you said you you had drafted 

853
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,640
all of these teams. 
You only get a handful to the 

854
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,880
finals. 
Was there a moment during Week 

855
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,360
16, maybe at the start or 
whatever, where you're like, 

856
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,920
shit? 
Like, I could just take a total 

857
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,160
bath this year? 
Not really. 

858
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,960
Week 16, cause in Week 16 I had,
I still had 40 teams left. 

859
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,160
So it felt OK. 
Even though you know that the 

860
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,800
odds of advancing a good 
percentage of those teams to 

861
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,760
Week 17 is slim, you're still 
feeling all right because you've

862
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,200
still got 40 rosters. 
It's hard to sweat 40 individual

863
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,920
rosters, right? 
So like, you can't really go. 

864
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,320
I couldn't. 
I wasn't really going through 

865
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,040
looking at every single team. 
I would look at some, you know, 

866
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,360
see the ones that scored a lot. 
Week 15, I was like, oh, what's 

867
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,680
interesting about these teams? 
But you can't really sweat it. 

868
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,480
So you just got to kind of, for 
me, I was just like, well, let's

869
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,680
see what happens and hopefully I
advance. 

870
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,440
I was hoping to advance like 8 
to 10. 

871
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,760
And so six was a little 
disappointing. 

872
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,360
But you know, I looked at those 
teams and there were a couple 

873
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,760
the the this team, that one was 
interesting. 

874
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,000
I had another one that had 
Fields and DJ Moore that I 

875
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,440
thought was interesting also 
going into the week that felt 

876
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,160
like it might be a little 
unique, so to speak. 

877
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,480
So but this obviously yeah, this
one ended up hitting all the 

878
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,000
right buttons. 
Yeah, I just pulled it up here 

879
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,800
on screen. 
First of all, what's the what's 

880
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,680
the back story on the username 
Peter Wiggin? 

881
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,440
Yeah, so Peter Wiggin is a minor
character in the first book of a

882
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,080
series by a guy named Orson 
Scott Card. 

883
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,440
You've heard of the book, It's 
called Ender's Game, probably, 

884
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,360
if you've no sci-fi at all. 
So Peter Wiggin is the main 

885
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,560
character, Ender, his older 
brother, and he takes a more 

886
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,400
major role in a sequel series 
that the author wrote. 

887
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,960
That's really interesting. 
So I like the character. 

888
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,360
I identified the character a 
little bit Ender, and if this 

889
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,600
guy's Ender in on underdog, he's
definitely in a bunch of my my 

890
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,160
underdog dress. 
There's an Ender in there that I

891
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,040
saw pretty regularly, which I 
enjoyed. 

892
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,240
But yeah, he it's I I enjoy the 
character. 

893
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:11,200
I think he's a a very 
interesting character, ends up 

894
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,560
ruling the world actually, so 
take that. 

895
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:20,600
Take that. 
This is, I mean this is a super 

896
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,680
fun team. 
Just you know, just to service 

897
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,440
the audio listeners, I'll I'll 
read it off here. 

898
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,160
Lamar Jackson, Jared Goff at 
running back, Jamir Gibbs. 

899
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,080
James Connor, Devon H and Jarek 
McKinnon. 

900
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Tank Bigsby, Chuba Hubbard wide 
receiver. 

901
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,280
CD Lamb. 
Arsb Godwin Ayuke. 

902
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,240
Say Flowers, Rashi Rice, Juan 
Dale and then the tight end room

903
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:39,400
which is the funnest one like 
Tyler Conklin, Isaiah Likely 

904
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,280
Cade Otten. 
I mean, this is a team where 

905
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,200
it's like Kate Otton's one spike
week, like drug you into the 

906
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,120
play offs essentially. 
Oh yeah. 

907
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,760
Oh yeah, I need it. 
I need it. 

908
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,000
I definitely would never have 
made it. 

909
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,600
I wouldn't have advanced this 
team without Kate Otton. 

910
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,000
No chance. 
Kate Otton was massively 

911
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,320
important for this team. 
He was good. 

912
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,120
I mean he was when I was doing I
pre draft, especially last year,

913
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,920
but even going into post draft I
was doing a lot of three tight 

914
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,400
last three rounds, 3 tight end, 
punt, tight end builds. 

915
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:18,000
And K Dotton was a pretty like 
popular guy for me in that that 

916
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,960
last round of those spots. 
Just because it's going to be 

917
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,160
the starting tight end in Tampa 
and there's no one to take his 

918
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,200
job, and if that offense is 
anywhere near what I was hoping,

919
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,640
it was going to look like, He 
was going to be an interesting 

920
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,120
player. 
And it turned out all right. 

921
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Turned out, signing the 
quarterback coach who turned 

922
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,560
Geno Smith into a Pro Bowler was
a pretty good move for Tampa. 

923
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,440
Yeah, Casey says. 
Let's see the draft board. 

924
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,440
I was just doing some math on 
this. 

925
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,480
I would say the crazy pick. 
IUK falls to the 5-6 turn, 

926
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,800
right? 
That's the crazy guy. 

927
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:56,040
I yeah, IUK at six two was the 
was the kind of mild surprise. 

928
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:01,200
IUK was a guy that and Nick and 
Donk and Nick especially, but 

929
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,360
that was the guy we loved, 
especially. 

930
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,560
I was at Uke this year really 
big and he was one of my most 

931
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,280
home players. 
Really really heavy on him. 

932
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,400
So to get him at six two was 
pretty ridiculous and felt. 

933
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,560
I still can't believe I didn't 
take him at at 5511 to be 

934
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,200
honest. 
But yeah I took Godwin ahead of 

935
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,080
him which is strange for me 
looking back on it. 

936
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,000
But yeah, I uke at six. 
Two was a huge, huge, huge hit 

937
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,040
for us for me on this team, no 
question actually took a Chan I 

938
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,840
think at the in the 9th or 10th,
which seems feels early. 

939
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,880
But there must have been 
something going on during this 

940
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,760
window that he had risen ahead 
of Mostert significantly 'cause 

941
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,520
it would have been just after 
the draft. 

942
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,920
I think that this that this 
would have come out. 

943
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,760
And you said it was a 
coincidence that you had Lamar 

944
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:53,200
likely ze a Chan bring back Goff
Gibbs ARSBCD lamp bring back. 

945
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,360
That was just a coincidence. 
Total coincidence? 

946
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,920
Yeah, it was just random lock 
that I ended up with two full 

947
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,840
week 17 stacks with the bring 
back on the team. 

948
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,600
Never, never would have thought 
to you know build a team in that

949
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,000
way or thought of make might 
give some. 

950
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,560
It's. 
Pretty It's pretty fortunate 

951
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,720
that all three of those 
Baltimore players and the Miami 

952
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,000
bring back all hit the line up 
and then also you get Lam in 

953
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,440
Almano. 
Like the way that worked out was

954
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,480
real lucky. 
Yeah, real luck. 

955
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,520
I mean, you never, you could 
never have predicted that those 

956
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,120
two games would have been really
interesting in Week 17 

957
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,440
especially. 
You know what? 

958
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,720
Especially if you watched the 
Miami Baltimore game from Week 1

959
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:32,080
the previous year where there 
was like 80 total points. 

960
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,720
Never would have thought that 
Miami Baltimore would have been 

961
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,160
a fun game to maybe bet on for 
Week 17. 

962
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,840
This year it's. 
Gonna be mad. 

963
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,280
I love it. 
So what? 

964
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,480
What what did you run away with 
this one? 

965
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,800
I I wasn't in the I didn't see a
a leaderboard or whatnot. 

966
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,320
Like what was the sweat like for
this? 

967
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,800
It was. 
It was a sweat, kind of. 

968
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,720
So I was done at 4:00. 
Basically the only guy I had 

969
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:58,280
left was Reishi. 
And he didn't crack. 

970
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,840
No, maybe it wasn't. 
I think I was done totally at 

971
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,520
4:00 so I was sweating. 
I I was anti sweating Locket and

972
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,400
then I was anti sweating all the
running backs in the lake game. 

973
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Dylan Jones and Chandler were 
all anti sweats for me, but they

974
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:18,200
were the teams behind me were 
down by about 19 and and the the

975
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,040
guys needed to clear like 10 to 
even hit their line up. 

976
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:25,040
So it would have taken some 
pretty big scores in that game, 

977
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,400
not unreasonable 30 points. 
We've seen Aaron Jones on Monday

978
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,160
Night Football have 5 touchdowns
before, so anything you know, 

979
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,760
it's not out of the realm of 
possibility that a game like 

980
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,600
that happens. 
But yeah, they needed some 

981
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,360
pretty big scores in in those 
games to have a chance to to go 

982
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,640
back. 
Given the lead that you had, do 

983
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,760
you regret rooting against 
Chandler quite so hard since it 

984
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,960
cost us 9K? 
Yeah, I definitely regret it 

985
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,600
completely. 
I I wish he had scored more. 

986
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,480
I wish he had gotten to like 20 
ish and that would have probably

987
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,240
gotten you guys there and I 
would have been really. 

988
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:57,200
Gone. 
So I. 

989
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,840
Figured that had to be your. 
Fault. 

990
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,280
Yeah, well, you know how it is. 
I can't. 

991
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,280
I can't. 
You know I can't control where I

992
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,680
direct how thing, how my, how my
love takes, takes. 

993
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,600
I mean, I know you. 
Guys have some type of voodoo 

994
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,680
shit with what you really is not
going on all this shit? 

995
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,120
I won't. 
I won't. 

996
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,720
I won't talk about selling, 
selling our souls or anything. 

997
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,920
You. 
Know you don't know that ever 

998
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,280
happened. 
Yeah. 

999
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,520
Are you worried that you used up
all your your go Bills run good 

1000
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,600
on this team and they're going 
to lose to Miami on on Sunday? 

1001
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,920
We used all of our go bills run 
good 2 1/2 three years ago. 

1002
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,840
I don't know what's. 
Happening. 

1003
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,640
I don't know what's happening 
anymore. 

1004
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,200
So no, we didn't win the main 
event this year. 

1005
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,960
So because we didn't win the 
main event, the Bills are going 

1006
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,080
to win the Super Bowl this year.
It's kind of just that's just 

1007
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,880
how it's gonna be. 
I mean they're they're for the 

1008
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,400
record. 
Their defense is coming together

1009
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,600
at the right time and them 
getting Dayquan Jones back is 

1010
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,360
should be the scariest thing for
for opposing offenses because 

1011
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,640
with him and Oliver next to each
other they're gonna be so 

1012
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,600
disruptive. 
I'd pray for two to talk about 

1013
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,000
Loa this week. 
That's all I gotta say. 

1014
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,640
Good luck to him. 
We'll see what happens. 

1015
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,680
But we'll see. 
Calling it there. 

1016
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,120
Well you guys, I feel like you 
guys so show so much restraint 

1017
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,640
because you still only fire, 
what, a handful of bullets at 

1018
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,320
the main event? 
Yeah. 

1019
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,120
We fired 8 at the main event 
this year and then Nick and I 

1020
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,360
each did our own like solo 
efforts. 

1021
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,280
But yeah, we don't really, we 
don't. 

1022
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,000
Not that we don't feel like we 
could handle a larger portfolio 

1023
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,920
of main events, but we don't I 
think we would enjoy I don't 

1024
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,600
think firing that kind of firing
those kind of events so 

1025
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,840
aggressively. 
We think we found a pretty good 

1026
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,200
foothold where we are in terms 
of how we work together and how 

1027
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,400
we're efficiently able to handle
this many teams And we do a 

1028
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,120
pretty, you know we're pretty, 
we do a pretty good job with it 

1029
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,920
not this year but most of the 
time. 

1030
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:58,200
So you know, I think I think we 
found our niche a little bit and

1031
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,200
we might be a little more 
aggressively attacking Bestball 

1032
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,760
as a team next year. 
We'll say that might be 

1033
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,880
something that we look at, I 
think seems to be something that

1034
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,200
might be in the cards. 
But in terms of managed stuff, I

1035
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,760
think we're pretty comfortable 
building the portfolio the way 

1036
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,800
we do. 
And you know, managing the 

1037
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,520
amount of teams that we manage I
think makes a lot of sense for 

1038
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,880
us. 
Yeah. 

1039
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,880
And I mean you also just have to
be at peace like when you're 

1040
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,720
doing that few of teams, I mean 
even us who ended up having, I 

1041
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:26,440
don't know, double digit, you 
know, high stakes teams, it's 

1042
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,960
like your draft slot is still 
largely going to determine like.

1043
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,920
Your early. 
Round exposures like, yeah, you 

1044
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,680
can be overweight on a seventh 
round pick, but it's like your 

1045
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,880
access to the top 24 guys is 
still wildly dependent on that 

1046
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,160
slot. 
Yeah. 

1047
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,800
And that was the thing that we 
pretty strongly felt hurt us a 

1048
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,280
lot this year is that we have a 
lot of one through 8, one 

1049
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,800
through 9. 
We didn't have any real 

1050
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,240
10/11/12. 
So we had one share of CD Lamb 

1051
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:55,680
and that's a guy that we love 
like CD is one of those guys 

1052
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,440
that you just you know he he was
on the team that won that you 

1053
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,320
know last year and we just 
obviously he was huge to have 

1054
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,840
this year. 
But it it just felt, you know, 

1055
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,800
it felt bad that a lot of the 
guys that hit and a lot of the 

1056
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,400
teams that felt very strong were
in the late portion of the draft

1057
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,120
this year. 
And we just didn't have. 

1058
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Because like you say, when you 
do eight, eight to 10 teams when

1059
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,240
your draft slot dictates what 
happens, and if you were picking

1060
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,280
in, then in those early spots 
you had to dodge in so many 

1061
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,240
landmines. 
And you just kind of couldn't in

1062
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:26,600
a lot of ways, 'cause you were 
just gonna end up hitting one of

1063
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,120
them at some point. 
And it just would would kill a 

1064
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,600
lot of those teams. 
Yeah, and like Browns two and 

1065
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,160
three were sort of set up as as 
a lot of landmines as well from 

1066
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,360
that front half of the board. 
So it was like it's just tough. 

1067
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,360
I mean, it was just McCaffrey, 
but even with McCaffrey there 

1068
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,560
was it was tough to hear. 
You would, you would have 

1069
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,920
McCaffrey, but then you would 
take T Higgins in the second 

1070
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,600
round and that just wasn't good.
And then you know, if now you 

1071
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,960
have Higgins, now you're looking
at maybe getting Burrow, and 

1072
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,800
that was terrible. 
So it was just so many things 

1073
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,080
that could spiral a team that 
felt great out of control like 

1074
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,600
we had a Jesse Jefferson team in
the league with you guys and 

1075
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,400
that team had quarterback death 
after we had Richardson and it 

1076
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,080
just the team just went off a 
Cliff once we lost Richardson 

1077
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,680
really and that was and you lose
Jefferson and it's just over. 

1078
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,600
So those you know those kind of 
things happen and that's the 

1079
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,120
that's the the fun and the the 
like. 

1080
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,640
The hardest part of these 
managed teams is that you, no 

1081
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,160
matter what you do, you're 
you're so it's so hard to be a 

1082
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,560
Chad Schroeder, Dave Hubbard, 
those guys who fire 100 of these

1083
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,640
things like that. 
That to me seems just untenable 

1084
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,880
for any like unless you're 
really unless you're hiring a 

1085
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,320
staff which who knows how they 
could do things, but unless 

1086
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,800
you're hiring a staff to do the 
work, do a lot of the work for 

1087
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,560
you, it just seems completely 
unrealistic. 

1088
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,240
Did you guys see Chad 
Schroeder's tweet? 

1089
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:54,520
The other. 
Day. 

1090
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,880
Oh, he's in and out. 
He's crazy. 

1091
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,320
Hourly. 
Hey, well that. 

1092
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,560
First off, let me just say that 
hourly. 

1093
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,080
That hourly. 
It's ridiculous because that's 

1094
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,360
about $50,000 in profit. 
You're telling me that someone 

1095
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,520
who makes $50,000 a year is 
making $0.20 an hour? 

1096
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,400
That's nonsense. 
That's nonsense. 

1097
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,880
So I don't know what he's 
talking about. 

1098
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:18,800
Plus it's only, I mean, how 
many, because it's only for a 

1099
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,240
part of the year, you know, it's
not like he's. 

1100
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,920
I'll, I'll read the tweet here 
for the audio listeners, Chad 

1101
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:31,960
says I was in for $752,093.00, 
out for $809,491.00. 

1102
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,160
What an epic waste of time in 
physical and mental health about

1103
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,400
$0.20 an hour. 
When I first read the tweet, I 

1104
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,320
misread it at 75,000 and 80,000.
And then I circled back, yeah. 

1105
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,520
He's, he's insane and he's what 
he does is, I mean God bless 

1106
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,560
him, 'cause I would if I, if I 
had the ability to do that for 

1107
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,080
sure. 
That sounds, it's incredible. 

1108
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,680
But yeah, I mean he made 60 
grand this year. 

1109
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,000
Anyone who makes 60 grand will 
tell you you're not you're not 

1110
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,000
making $0.20 an hour and making 
60 grand in a year. 

1111
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,440
You're doing all right. 
Probably so I don't know. 

1112
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,040
But. 
Yeah, no, I mean, I I see both 

1113
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,440
sides of it. 
Other people are like, oh man, I

1114
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,080
would kill to make 60,000 
playing fantasy, but it's also 

1115
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,200
you can do a lot more with 
$750,000 in a million other 

1116
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,040
markets than than tying it up at
fantasy football. 

1117
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,560
I think I I I just did the math.
I and we'll say if I did this 

1118
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:28,800
completely wrong, it would come 
to about 220 hours a week for 

1119
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,920
all 52 weeks to get. 
Hey we you got to have a little 

1120
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,680
hyperbole to divide it by. 
Eight months. 

1121
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,280
It's not like it's more. 
Hours than there are in a week, 

1122
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:38,800
so I'm going. 
To be saying May 1st. 

1123
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,560
Yeah, I don't think anyone's 
questioning that Chad puts a lot

1124
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,240
of time in and that only 
clearing 60,000 on that volume 

1125
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,680
is a massive disappointment for 
him. 

1126
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,480
I get it. 
I get it. 

1127
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,680
Yeah, for sure. 
Well, yeah. 

1128
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,520
Any any other kind of macro 
takeaways, Sean, you had like do

1129
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,240
you think, you know, people 
always talk about like, oh, you 

1130
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:05,120
know, the competition is tougher
on, on underdog. 

1131
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,520
I mean, I I've always found some
of those puppy rooms to be 

1132
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,000
extremely tough 'cause you have 
a lot of the grinders who know 

1133
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,480
what they're doing who just want
to get in big volume there. 

1134
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Like, how do you think you said 
you guys might be scaling up 

1135
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,960
your best ball portfolio? 
Like how do you think about 

1136
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,520
contest selection and where you 
guys are going to be firing? 

1137
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,960
Contest selection's huge. 
I I think that I mean the, I'll 

1138
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,480
tell you this, the puppy room I 
was in, I looked back on the 

1139
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,240
draft board at some point and 
there were, I want to say, 

1140
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,520
including me, there were seven 
red badges and then two black 

1141
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,360
badges in that room. 
So like you say, there's going 

1142
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,040
to be highly experienced people.
I mean this game is becoming so 

1143
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,480
popular and it's it's becoming 
so much more mainstream, but 

1144
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,480
there's there's grinders 
everywhere. 

1145
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:50,600
I do think contest selection is 
huge and if you are firing, I 

1146
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,880
think if you have the 
wherewithal and the bankroll and

1147
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,160
you're able to fire some of the 
higher stakes, mid to higher 

1148
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,760
stakes stuff, a small field 
stuff, that is a place where I 

1149
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,400
think you can, you know, be kind
of somewhat aggressive and find 

1150
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,240
some interesting spots. 
But I do think underdog is the 

1151
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,080
toughest in terms of opposing 
player. 

1152
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:17,240
And just like consistently 
finding drafts that are making 

1153
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,040
solid decisions throughout that 
there's not really a weak spot 

1154
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,080
in the draft. 
Whereas on places like drafters 

1155
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,000
and DraftKings, I noticed you 
would come across rooms felt 

1156
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,880
more often where you're looking 
at some of these picks and these

1157
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,640
teams and you're like, oh, 
you're just doing, you're just 

1158
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,160
clicking buttons. 
There's just no rhyme or reason 

1159
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,480
to any decision that's being 
made. 

1160
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,080
And it feels like it happens a 
little more often on those 

1161
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,520
sites, but there's give and take
there. 

1162
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,560
Slow drafts on DraftKings are 
hell because there's no 

1163
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,640
overnight pause. 
So if you try to direct. 

1164
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,560
I couldn't do it. 
I did it. 

1165
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,040
I did it. 
I did it. 

1166
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,640
But I had to set an alarm. 
I had to literally make every 

1167
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,280
pick until 11:00 PM, and then I 
had to set an alarm for 6:00 AM 

1168
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,680
every day and make sure I got up
at 6:00 AM and made every pick 

1169
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,080
on DraftKings first because I 
would be almost out of time. 

1170
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,440
So it was very that was the 
toughest thing about it. 

1171
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:12,320
I mean, I get it. 
I don't want to do that. 

1172
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,960
It it it, I do think it's worth 
it on on a site like DraftKings 

1173
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,880
where the the lobbies are 
definitely a little more 

1174
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:25,360
interesting and and tend to take
a little more unique routes. 

1175
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,280
I'll say. 
So yeah, I I I definitely, I I 

1176
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,840
like drafting. 
I hope they switched that. 

1177
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,480
I hope they make their just just
give me a 2 hour overnight pause

1178
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,440
and I'll be ecstatic. 
With DraftKings, I I kind of 

1179
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,880
feel like there's something I 
don't know exactly like how to 

1180
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,480
articulate it, but it's like 
there's something to that like 

1181
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,640
in a given week, especially in 
the single elimination weeks, 

1182
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,320
like it was like that much more 
important to have Lamar Cooper 

1183
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,080
for example, because he scores 
just that extra amount. 

1184
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,960
And I think there is something 
on Underdog that I really like 

1185
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,200
where like you can kind of get 
there in a in a more like a 

1186
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,640
variety of ways. 
And I I think that does reward 

1187
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,720
team building. 
So like, yes, DraftKings, the if

1188
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,640
the rooms are, there's more dead
teams for sure. 

1189
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:23,360
But there's also this element of
like I think the way teams 

1190
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,240
advance, it feels like a little 
bit more like luck is rewarded 

1191
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,280
or rewarded. 
Just like player selection is 

1192
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,680
rewarded, whereas team 
construction is rewarded a 

1193
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,800
little more, I think. 
It is for sure, because the 

1194
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,120
ceilings are so high on 
DraftKings with full PPR and 

1195
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,360
yardage bonuses for all these 
guys. 

1196
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,480
The ceilings are so high. 
So the spike weeks are so much 

1197
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,440
bigger. 
Like the Cooper week was just so

1198
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,880
much more important on 
draftings. 

1199
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,560
And if you didn't have it, you 
almost weren't advancing because

1200
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,120
it was so important to have that
in those spots. 

1201
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,880
So yeah I mean I I had I had a 
team on draftings my last the 

1202
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,640
last team in week 16 my last 
million million team had 182 

1203
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,480
points and did not advance and 
it just feels wrong for a team 

1204
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,080
to score 182 points to go. 
Nah, Nah, the season fourth by 

1205
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,280
the way like I'm just like 
whatever done with that. 

1206
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,280
But yeah, you just, you had to 
have those spike weeks and I 

1207
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,160
think you're right when you say 
you can build more of these 

1208
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,360
correlated builds on underdog 
and be rewarded then you can 

1209
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,040
DraftKings, it's a little more 
you kind of got a big hit and 

1210
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,960
drafters and you do it and you 
want to have those correlations 

1211
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,200
still, but you got to bake it a 
little more. 

1212
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,280
You got to get a little more 
lucky I think to really get 

1213
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,920
there, which is, which is 
definitely an interesting 

1214
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,840
element to it. 
That has to I think you have to 

1215
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,040
account for when you're in the 
draft room, which is why all 

1216
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,680
three of these site, this site 
and drafters are so different 

1217
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,440
from each other. 
And the way you have to approach

1218
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,160
drafting, that was the biggest. 
Obviously if I had one take away

1219
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,480
from the way I drafted this 
year, it's that all three of 

1220
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,880
those sites are so incredibly 
different in terms of how you 

1221
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,160
should probably approach 
strategy that you really have 

1222
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,440
to. 
It's like that's the hardest 

1223
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,240
thing is like trying to draft 
all your underdog teams and then

1224
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,080
shifting your focus to 
draftings, then shifting your 

1225
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,960
focus to drafters and trying to 
make sure that you're doing the 

1226
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,280
right things for each of those 
builds. 

1227
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,480
It's tough. 
You know, like drafters, you 

1228
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,840
don't want a Jamar chase so 
much. 

1229
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,440
Maybe on a. 
In a in a situation like that, 

1230
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,680
you maybe want you want more of 
a. 

1231
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,600
You know you want the safer 
quote UN quote pick than the, 

1232
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,800
than the, than the guys with 
boom bust option. 

1233
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,000
That was that was gonna kind of 
what you're saying was gonna be 

1234
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,400
my next question. 
Because I think a lot of 

1235
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,400
people's take away whether wrong
or right after this year and 

1236
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,640
observing who won is they're 
just gonna say volume, volume, 

1237
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,480
volume. 
If I just do what I did last 

1238
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,320
year but I scale up my volume, 
then I too will get more teams 

1239
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:50,920
in the finals and bink one of 
these tournaments. 

1240
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,680
Obviously there's a lot more to 
it and like one of the things I 

1241
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,200
think really needs to be 
explored and studied more is 

1242
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,600
like legit portfolio 
maintenance. 

1243
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,000
So do you have like any advice 
for people, other takeaways that

1244
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,560
like what are the things you 
need to do in addition to just 

1245
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,040
upping your volume? 
Like how do you do that in a 

1246
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,480
smart way? 
Reassess everything after the 

1247
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,200
year. 
Try to do your best to reassess 

1248
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:19,640
what you like, trying to 
understand the dynamics of what 

1249
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,200
the league is doing different 
now. 

1250
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,280
Is the league trending in a 
different direction? 

1251
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,920
Are you, you know, assessing the
way these tournaments are 

1252
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,120
structured? 
Because all these sites change 

1253
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,280
their structures every year, and
an underdog comes out with six 

1254
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,720
different structures. 
If you're not paying attention 

1255
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,640
to all of that stuff as much as 
you can in advance in how you 

1256
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,320
prepare, where you, how you're 
drafting A-Team and looking at 

1257
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,200
the advance rates and things of 
that nature, I I think you're 

1258
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,200
doing yourself a pretty big 
disservice. 

1259
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:51,080
Like you can't approach Bestball
Mania the same way you approach 

1260
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,160
the Puppy, the same way you 
approach, you know, the higher 

1261
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,960
stakes stuff. 
You have to attack each of these

1262
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,040
tournaments in different in 
different ways based on how they

1263
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,760
advance and how they're built 
and how things, how things move 

1264
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,160
forward. 
So I think it's really important

1265
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,800
to just kind of pay attention to
the the macro and the big 

1266
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,920
picture of everything and then 
drill down at each, each 

1267
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,080
tournament you play, each draft 
you take, you have to look at 

1268
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,680
that. 
OK, this competition works this 

1269
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,720
way. 
What does this mean for how I'm 

1270
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,000
going to attack this draft and 
how I'm going to attack this 

1271
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,640
room and then take and then use 
your your overall strategy that 

1272
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,480
you have for this year whatever 
player takes. 

1273
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,560
You may have however you think 
the mark is inefficient and go 

1274
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,720
from there and and build your 
teams but it's it's it's tough. 

1275
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,440
Do you have any kind of specific
lessons learned for for like 

1276
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,920
along those lines of tournament 
selection or just like playing 

1277
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,800
on the different sites like 
DraftKings versus drafters 

1278
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,560
versus underdog or just high 
stakes versus low stakes? 

1279
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,880
Because I I agree with you. 
I think a lot of that, like, I 

1280
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,600
really kind of want to go back 
and and look at my DraftKings 

1281
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,560
play, because I think my 
underdog play is like way 

1282
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,080
stronger than my DraftKings 
play. 

1283
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,960
But I like, I don't know what, 
like I need to try to figure out

1284
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,760
how to make the DraftKings play 
stronger. 

1285
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,760
I don't have like a lot of great
ideas right now. 

1286
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,280
Yeah, I I I actually agree with.
I'm the feel the same way about 

1287
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,320
mine as well. 
I think my underdog play is the 

1288
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,840
strongest for me. 
And then DraftKings drafters I 

1289
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,000
lost money on drafters. 
I wasn't. 

1290
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,040
I understood how it worked, but 
my I didn't strategize that 

1291
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,480
well, I don't think for it and I
didn't. 

1292
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:29,520
I didn't build the teams the way
I think I should have, so I I do

1293
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:34,000
think that those are things that
I'm going to be looking at in 

1294
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,840
this short period of what, 3 
weeks we have before we start 

1295
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,800
drafting again. 
But I those are the things that 

1296
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,880
I'm going to be looking at to 
try to figure out, hey, what did

1297
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,800
what did I do on DraftKings to 
only advance 2 total teams to 

1298
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,160
week 16 when only one team from 
the Millie to week 16. 

1299
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,800
What did I like? 
What was my did I did I make 

1300
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,640
major strategy mistakes in terms
of how the tournament is 

1301
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,680
structured, how the tournament 
scored? 

1302
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,200
Did I did I make like errors 
there like I did on drafters? 

1303
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,480
For sure. 
I was so aggressive on Jamar 

1304
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,920
Chase. 
And to me I think on a site on a

1305
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,000
season long in a season long 
situation like that I think it 

1306
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,080
was a mistake to be super 
aggressive on Chase the way that

1307
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:18,040
I was over a McCaffrey. 
I just I think that was a pretty

1308
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:23,280
clear cut error in terms of what
I was looking for and I you know

1309
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,480
and and but those are the little
things that I think I look at is

1310
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,960
like OK, well how did the most 
successful teams do? 

1311
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,200
What were their builds like? 
Like look at the teams that won 

1312
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,240
especially on the site like 
drafters where it is just one to

1313
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:39,080
17 who had the best team. 
You can really dive into what 

1314
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:43,280
one and why and like what was 
the how how can you like what 

1315
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,480
kind of build made the most 
sense and how these builds are 

1316
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,240
put builds are put together. 
It it, it was a little more 

1317
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,840
enlightening in terms of how I 
think I'm going to approach that

1318
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,080
particular site next year in 
terms of how I'm going to attack

1319
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,760
different spots and you know, be
a little, you know, less 

1320
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:04,000
aggressive on stacking probably 
on that site and maybe a little 

1321
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:09,360
more trying to tap you know, 
market inefficiencies and 

1322
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,920
closing line value I think makes
a little more sense at a place 

1323
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:17,279
like that interesting. 
Yeah, well, Sean, oh, Sean just 

1324
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,880
dropped off here. 
We you back here. 

1325
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,760
Sean, we're going to say goodbye
to you here in a SEC to bring on

1326
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,000
our next guest, but can you hear
us? 

1327
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,720
I can hear you but I my camera 
has appeared to have drunken 

1328
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,680
but. 
Well, real. 

1329
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,800
Quick as you figure this out, 
Inder did have a super chat 

1330
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,640
here, he says. 
Hey Sean, Congrats on separating

1331
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,920
the Go Bills conglomerate. 
I heard that DOMS bachelor party

1332
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,439
is coming up soon and I was just
wondering had you thought about 

1333
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,479
doing something really nice for 
him? 

1334
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,120
Oh Gee, I wonder if this is an 
alt account of someone I know. 

1335
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,080
Weird that this would. 
Ever come up it is. 

1336
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,560
Coming up and I'm sure, I'm sure
there will be some very nice 

1337
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,720
things happening at set event. 
It's gonna be. 

1338
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,600
It's gonna be a I was just. 
Wondering how many people know 

1339
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,120
that's coming up and would be 
interested in Dom getting you? 

1340
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:03,640
That's that. 
That's a. 

1341
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,399
That is a. 
Really valid point. 

1342
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,359
There's only. 
I'm sure there's only a few. 

1343
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,240
In fact, I'm quite certain 
there's only a few so, so that's

1344
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,960
a pretty limited number. 
Sean gave up all of his tips for

1345
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,680
portfolio portfolio management 
then had to go and witness 

1346
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:18,479
protection. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1347
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:18,720
I'm. 
I'm. 

1348
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,040
I'm apparently I've been lost. 
I don't know what happened to my

1349
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,680
webcam, but we're we're gone 
here. 

1350
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:27,240
Oh, oh, there you are. 
Whatever. 

1351
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,760
It, Sean, anything else like 
when you know all these other 

1352
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,600
content guys, you know they they
win, you know you're going to be

1353
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,560
launching you know, legendary 
Bills upside push push.com. 

1354
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,080
I mean, what's coming here? 
I don't think content creation 

1355
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,160
is probably in the future 
anytime soon. 

1356
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,160
I like playing the game too 
much. 

1357
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,160
I really enjoy the game. 
It may sound crazy, but I'm 

1358
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,040
excited. 
It's true. 

1359
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,560
But I'm excited to start setting
my alarms for 10:00 AM, four PM,

1360
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,680
10:00 PM and making a bunch of 
draft picks throughout the rest 

1361
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,760
of the summer. 
I'm I'm pretty amped to take 

1362
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,200
another swing at this thing, so.
Awesome dude. 

1363
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,240
Well, follow Sean on Twitter at 
Sean under score. 

1364
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,440
How do you print it? 
Is it Stutzman? 

1365
01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:08,880
Stutzman. 
Stutzman. 

1366
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,920
Stutzman, I appreciate you guys.
Hopefully we can bump into you 

1367
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,560
again in Vegas this year at a 
another event. 

1368
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,600
We got to get like all of us 
together. 

1369
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,200
Leonie was gone this year. 
The year. 

1370
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,320
Before us weren't there. 
So we got to get us all 

1371
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,280
together. 
We should we should we do it. 

1372
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,280
We tried to do a nice dinner 
right before Mike's show. 

1373
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,240
Kind of helps put it together. 
We'll we'll have to we'll we'll 

1374
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:30,160
extend the invite. 
We'll get. 

1375
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,520
We'll get everybody together 
this year and get a big group 

1376
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,520
and I'll go out to dinner maybe 
the day before, maybe Wednesday 

1377
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:36,640
night. 
Love it. 

1378
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,560
All right, Sean, thanks for 
hopping on. 

1379
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,760
Congrats on taking down the 
puppy. 

1380
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,360
It was great chopping it up with
you, man. 

1381
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,280
Thanks for having me guys. 
Good seeing you all. 

1382
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:46,520
Right. 
Thanks, Sean. 

1383
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:52,200
All right, we got our our final 
guest this evening, Mike Fay 

1384
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:58,080
AKADFS Analytics, AKA the champ 
of the NFC football guys, Best 

1385
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,800
ball championship. 
Mike, welcome to the show, man. 

1386
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,280
Thanks so much for having me. 
It's great to be on here. 

1387
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:11,480
Love the show and been a big fan
even though been a lurker lurker

1388
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:14,440
for years. 
Not not a part of the community,

1389
01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:20,840
I guess you you would say, but 
love the show and and yeah, 

1390
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,360
thanks for having me. 
Yeah, so you won. 

1391
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,720
You got, you won the $30,000 
grand prize. 

1392
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,800
These were the the the 
monstrosity of best ball drafts 

1393
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,400
that we were drafting back in 
the early parts of the summer, 

1394
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,320
right? 
Yeah and so the the you know one

1395
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:42,240
of the reasons why I actually 
replied to that tweet from you 

1396
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:48,120
know NFC sent sends them out and
did that is because this show 

1397
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:52,840
was the reason I even went over 
to NFC and did it because you 

1398
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,080
guys I think we're doing a again
I I I would say I listen to a 

1399
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:01,440
good amount and or watch you 
know a little bit boomer podcast

1400
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:09,440
listener over here and and so 
saw saw that they had you know I

1401
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:15,680
was doing a lot of underdog a 
lot of DraftKings some FFPC and 

1402
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,640
went over there previously did 
baseball drafts things like that

1403
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:27,040
on on on NFC and had a chunk of 
money on there and said I'll 

1404
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,920
I'll do a basketball draft every
year see what it's like really 

1405
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,800
the the what third second and 
third round wrap back around 

1406
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:41,720
really interesting and happened 
to get the 12 pick on the first 

1407
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,600
draft which was the big winner. 
Yeah. 

1408
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,480
Did you set your KDS there or 
did you did you like us just 

1409
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,880
kind of look into the what the? 
Hey, I actually think I did only

1410
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,560
'cause I was paying attention as
the first draft. 

1411
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:59,120
I don't know if I did 2 two or 
three but the but yeah for the 

1412
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:04,360
first first one I think I did 
and I maybe I can look it up on 

1413
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,520
the league page but I think it 
was the back end because yeah 

1414
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:13,000
the the you know second and 
third allowed me to get went 

1415
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,760
almond raw CD and then Keenan. 
Which? 

1416
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,640
In this format is nuts too. 
To be able to get Keenan there 

1417
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,720
in that format is so nice. 
Yeah. 

1418
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:24,640
Wait. 
Yeah. 

1419
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,480
Now go. 
Ahead I'm I'm just also cracking

1420
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:28,120
up. 
So I just pulled up Mike's team 

1421
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,560
here on the screen and you see 
the great starting line up. 

1422
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,880
Jord Love and I just forget how 
many players we dressed. 

1423
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,160
So many. 
So many players like you had 

1424
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,240
Anthony Richardson on this team,
Mike Williams, I mean, guys we 

1425
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,480
haven't thought about in ages, 
but when you get to draft 

1426
01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:45,880
whatever 35 guys, you know it 
can work out. 

1427
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,480
Yeah, it's crazy. 
I mean, I I looked at the team 

1428
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,560
like it. 
The team honestly literally went

1429
01:13:54,560 --> 01:14:01,240
from you know 25th or 30th all 
the way up really quickly up 

1430
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,240
until like second, first for 
like the last couple weeks, 

1431
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:11,360
primarily due to Amara raw CD. 
You know, I had a lot of good 

1432
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,600
late picks, but I I didn't pay 
all that much attention to it 

1433
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,240
till the last, I would say 2 
weeks. 

1434
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,760
And it is, yeah, it was crazy. 
Yeah. 

1435
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,520
Mike Keenan Allen. 
Mike Williams unstacked. 

1436
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:29,160
Was not, you know, part of my 
plan on Underdog or DraftKings 

1437
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,360
or anything like that. 
Yeah, somehow worked here. 

1438
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,840
That's so it it is. 
It is interesting, like 

1439
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,800
sweating, like rotisserie style 
best ball contest. 

1440
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:45,280
It's kind of it's kind of hard. 
Oh, it's so good or bad. 

1441
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:51,240
I got 2 little kids at home. 
We have been sick since, I don't

1442
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,720
know, right after Christmas they
got something called hand, foot 

1443
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,480
and mouth. 
So I was sweating it New Year's 

1444
01:14:57,480 --> 01:15:01,720
Eve on the couch, face down, 
paying attention to the TV. 

1445
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,280
Luckily it wasn't. 
It could have been a huge sweat 

1446
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:10,960
if I didn't for some reason go 
love Purdy back-to-back in the 

1447
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,600
12th and 13th. 
The guy in second had love, 

1448
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,000
which I think would have gotten 
me if I didn't have love as 

1449
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,360
well. 
And Love overtook Purdy, I 

1450
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,880
think. 
And so it wasn't that big of a 

1451
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:32,600
sweat. 
I think one guy had love what 

1452
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:37,360
Love Reed Stack that. 
But it was it's not it's not 

1453
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,800
close. 
It's not like moving back and 

1454
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,800
forth like you're sweating some 
of the other other line UPS, so.

1455
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,960
Well, that's awesome, man. 
Is this the Is this your biggest

1456
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:50,280
fantasy football score? 
Probably, yeah. 

1457
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:57,600
So I've I've been playing for 
not obviously not basketball for

1458
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,800
that long but I've been playing 
since you know back in the Star 

1459
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,480
St. days and stuff like that. 
And the only reason why my 

1460
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:09,440
Twitter handle that I, I don't 
know how many tweets I've sent 

1461
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:18,720
out but it's probably close to 
none was I the I was going to 

1462
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:24,040
back in Star St. days and things
like that, you know was when it 

1463
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:29,480
was a little bit easier game. 
I will say, you know was doing 

1464
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,560
tons of DFS was early on in my 
career and made this Twitter 

1465
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,040
handle put in LLC with a buddy 
of mine. 

1466
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,800
And you know that's why I 
fought. 

1467
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,400
The only reason why I still use 
it as I follow everyone you know

1468
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:49,480
within DFS and everything like 
that and and the plan was he was

1469
01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:53,840
big into coding and R was a big 
thing back back in the day which

1470
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:59,760
just seems crazy now and so 
still had this this Twitter 

1471
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:04,280
handle and never obviously the 
the plan was to make you know a 

1472
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:09,920
notable score and and try to 
maybe start start something like

1473
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,240
you guys have been doing but 
just didn't end up happening 

1474
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,120
like that but still used it and 
this was the most I'll say like 

1475
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:25,600
somewhat notable score in DFSI 
actually think my biggest one 

1476
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:29,000
thinking about it maybe golf 
like way back in the day like I 

1477
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:33,120
had a the guy won either came in
first or second in a big golf 

1478
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,320
term in back in the day. 
That's awesome. 

1479
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,880
And so this team, I mean some 
people were noticing in the chat

1480
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,320
when I had it on screen. 
You did get our boy Leviska 

1481
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,320
Chanel, probably like the only 
team you will find him on that 

1482
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,400
one. 
Someone you know a six figure 

1483
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,320
prize or five figure prize. 
One someone I don't know if this

1484
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,080
could want him anything but I. 
Was on the team, dude, he gets 

1485
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,840
the ring. 
He's like Rojo there or 

1486
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,280
whatever. 
Yeah, we get the ring. 

1487
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:04,120
But this team also has one. 
Mr. DeMarcus Robinson Did you 

1488
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,560
say you were maybe influenced 
with this selection? 

1489
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,960
Maybe a little bit by Mr. Gretch
over there. 

1490
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,560
Yeah it was it. 
It was back in August. 

1491
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:20,680
Again I don't can't attend all 
the the live shows but either 

1492
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:25,800
podcast or YouTube YouTube them 
while working at night and and 

1493
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:30,400
yeah it was one of those things 
that I noticed because I one of 

1494
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,760
the live shows I was watching 
was when he went off in that 

1495
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,360
game and definitely hit my 
lineup in the in what was that 

1496
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,000
week week 16 something like that
so. 

1497
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:46,520
Yeah, well, let's see here. 
Yeah, Week 6 or, yeah, Week 15 

1498
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,360
against. 
Let's see, where is he? 

1499
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,880
Oh, yeah, Week 16 against New 
Orleans. 

1500
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,040
That was the game, 20.2 points. 
I mean, he's got a great stretch

1501
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:58,400
here, you know, 117. 
The thesis of the play, really 

1502
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,000
the. 
Late. 

1503
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,160
Season here. 
I haven't looked at the entire 

1504
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:07,280
board, but it may have been 
between him and Tutu Atwell and 

1505
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,320
wasn't in on short King Summer 
there. 

1506
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,120
Short King Summer did kind of 
come to an end once the weather 

1507
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,000
turned. 
Yeah, like we lost 1022 turned 

1508
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,920
to dust. 
I mean, you have a ton of fun 

1509
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,640
picks. 
Obviously, you hit on Kyron in 

1510
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,520
this draft. 
I mean, you had James Cook, even

1511
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,520
Ty Chandler, you had TTJ 
Hawkinson, Karen, you had tight 

1512
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,120
end for a long period there. 
I mean, you hit on a ton of 

1513
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,960
these late picks. 
Yeah. 

1514
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:42,840
No it was so it it was my first 
first draft on you know 

1515
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:49,520
obviously ADP skews everything 
so when you're when you're on 

1516
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,960
here I'm guessing it was my 
first draft and or it no it 

1517
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:59,000
definitely was my first draft on
here so yeah you see different 

1518
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,800
values pop up and and things 
like that and you know I had 

1519
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:07,760
luckily I was lucky enough to. 
Do well kind of a across the 

1520
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:12,400
board that a lot of I would say 
not great pod luck but you know 

1521
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:19,000
as big on Tyron, really big on 
Ty Ty Chandler, unfortunately 

1522
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:24,120
really big on Kiante Ingram as 
well but the but yeah a lot of 

1523
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,200
the pics are. 
Funny. 

1524
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:26,640
And I think I mean, white is 
another. 

1525
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,320
Another. 
Yeah, almost one there came on 

1526
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,160
there. 
Yeah, I think the funniest one 

1527
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:38,800
that like probably my worst 
player take of the the year was 

1528
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,880
Mike Evans. 
Like I was just avoiding him 

1529
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:50,520
like the plague like I would. 
I was really, really big on on 

1530
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:56,520
Rashad Rashad White, but for 
whatever reason did not like the

1531
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:01,120
the QB there and it just is 
highlighted that I took Kyle 

1532
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,600
Trask was one of. 
The nights, yeah. 

1533
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,760
And it was that period of the 
summer where Baker was throwing 

1534
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,440
like a ton of interceptions in 
practice and it seemed like Tres

1535
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:13,520
wasn't like. 
I think like I think they were 

1536
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,560
showing them back-to-back like 
just missing in like gigantic 

1537
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:17,920
targets. 
I. 

1538
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:18,560
Remember. 
That. 

1539
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,440
Oh my God, yeah. 
It looked horrible. 

1540
01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:25,640
And yeah, I was just like, it's 
going to be short passes, you 

1541
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,840
know, short passes, run the 
ball. 

1542
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,960
Maybe Kyle Trask comes in there 
and they just hammer him up the 

1543
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,840
middle for a couple goal line 
touchdowns. 

1544
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:41,600
But yeah, one of my biggest 
misses or or stances in all of 

1545
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,960
best balls slash season long 
there. 

1546
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,440
That that is the it's the 
beautiful thing though about 

1547
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:50,200
like this game and specifically 
with how best ball works where 

1548
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,040
it's like it does just take that
that one team you know and the 

1549
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,480
and the way things work where if
you have that right roster come 

1550
01:21:56,480 --> 01:21:58,320
together, you can just have the 
worst. 

1551
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,080
You know, I mean, like, my most 
drafted guys were like JSN and 

1552
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,520
Quentin Johnston and it like, it
didn't matter if like, you built

1553
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,920
good rosters when you didn't 
have those guys on the team. 

1554
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,760
Yeah, yeah. 
Especially when you have rosters

1555
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,200
this, this huge. 
I mean, it's it's crazy. 

1556
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,720
Well, when you have DeMarcus 
Robinson producing like Quinton 

1557
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,440
Johnson never will in his entire
career, it it doesn't matter. 

1558
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,080
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

1559
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:20,680
Plus, Rashad White was a really 
good pick. 

1560
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,840
So like you, you got on to 
something good even if you 

1561
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,360
didn't nail every single player 
tape. 

1562
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:34,240
Yeah, I I had a lot of bad 
takes, but like I think I had I 

1563
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:39,360
would estimate 38% Anthony 
Richardson across DK and 

1564
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,640
underdog, which I think was a 
good take. 

1565
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:42,800
I think it was a pretty good 
take. 

1566
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,320
Yeah. 
And the other one was Evan Hall.

1567
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:53,040
I I I was thinking about that 
the other day and I was the one 

1568
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:58,880
could have been yeah, exactly 
like I I had a ton of ton of 

1569
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,840
him. 
Yeah. 

1570
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:05,120
And my I actually just checked 
it the other day my wide 

1571
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:12,920
receiver I only on underdog. 
I only did fifty I think 55 on 

1572
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:21,440
big tournament but Jaden Reed I 
had a 42% so his week 17 I did 

1573
01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:26,320
not advance a single single 
single team but the to the 

1574
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,960
finals so that the the the big 
score was was killing me man. 

1575
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,520
Yeah, it it's crazy though, 
because like when you when you 

1576
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,400
take that archetype, even the 
Evan holes, it's like most of 

1577
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,480
the time they're going to end up
like Evan Hole. 

1578
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:41,440
The point is, when they turn 
into Kyron Williams, you you 

1579
01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:43,880
ship a tournament, you know, 
like, yeah, that's like why you 

1580
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,080
keep hunting for those guys. 
Or even if they turn into Ty 

1581
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,240
Chandler, like you know, getting
a huge Week 15 can be pretty 

1582
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,240
meaningful even in, you know, 
whether it's total points or, 

1583
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:56,920
you know, especially the playoff
week format. 

1584
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,760
Yeah. 
I'm my my take on him is, and I 

1585
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,840
think it showed a little bit 
towards the end of the year that

1586
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:10,160
Zack Moss wasn't may have not 
been all that great and I think 

1587
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,400
Evan Hall could have just came 
in, you know when not only Zack 

1588
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:18,520
Moss was out but Jonathan Taylor
was out and and kind of taken 

1589
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,080
over that for a bit. 
But yeah. 

1590
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:27,480
Well awesome work and it was it 
was fun seeing that you know you

1591
01:24:27,480 --> 01:24:30,200
know the truth is you know we we
draft those best ball teams. 

1592
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,040
You know, I I would kept keep 
tabs on them. 

1593
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,400
I know Steph would log in and if
she saw something interesting 

1594
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,040
there our our teams weren't in 
the hunt. 

1595
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,440
So I'll, I'll be honest that I 
wasn't Hawking the the football 

1596
01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:41,440
guy's best ball leaderboard 
there. 

1597
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,560
So to see your tweet pop up and 
shout out shift chasing, that 

1598
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,280
was that was a sight for sore 
eyes. 

1599
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:52,680
Yeah. 
No, I, I, I, I'm 99% sure I 

1600
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,560
would have never entered it if I
wasn't watching you guys. 

1601
01:24:55,560 --> 01:25:00,920
So really, really appreciate it.
And and yeah, it was you know 

1602
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,440
Sun running at the end and and 
yeah, it was a great time. 

1603
01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:11,400
I appreciate you guys actually. 
So I was overlay chasing. 

1604
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,000
Ended up doing way more than I 
expected. 

1605
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:18,080
I did 12 on FFPC. 
The is it football guys? 

1606
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,480
Yeah. 
Or the fantasy pros now. 

1607
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:21,600
Or whatever it's. 
Called fantasy. 

1608
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,280
Yeah. 
Fantasy Pros championship and 

1609
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,520
and I actually got 7 of the 
Sprint. 

1610
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,560
None of them did anything and 
won four. 

1611
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:37,280
So it's like even even before 
that you know got got a lot you 

1612
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:44,440
know was plus he plus EV going 
into the Sprint slash underdog 

1613
01:25:44,440 --> 01:25:47,040
stuff. 
I think I've placed 110th in the

1614
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,440
regular season on. 
That's awesome. 

1615
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,640
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, well, awesome work. 

1616
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,320
Yeah. 
Don't don't be a stranger around

1617
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,840
here at DFS Analytics. 
Yeah, you slid. 

1618
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,080
I was messaging you, 'cause I, 
like, wanted to confirm that 

1619
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,360
that was you who had won that 
thing. 

1620
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,320
And you're like, Oh yeah, well, 
maybe I could come on sometime. 

1621
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,960
I was like, you want to come on 
in like 5 hours? 

1622
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:10,280
Yeah. 
You were down. 

1623
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,600
I mean, especially when you said
9:15. 

1624
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,560
You know, bedtime, that's 
bedtime's over. 

1625
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:23,000
It's all all good. 
So no, I I love the love the 

1626
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,040
show. 
I I definitely listen to not 

1627
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:30,080
like this, but all the all the 
other content content that you 

1628
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:35,680
guys do it's it's really great. 
So I appreciate it and was 

1629
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,360
definitely a large part of the 
successful year. 

1630
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:43,360
Well, just know man, next year 
we're going to remember to set 

1631
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,240
our KDS and we are going to beat
you. 

1632
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,320
In that in that. 
Best ball contest? 

1633
01:26:49,480 --> 01:26:51,080
Probably. 
Neither of those statements are 

1634
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,080
true. 
Yeah, we won't remember and we 

1635
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,800
we also won't be able. 
To wait, didn't you guys? 

1636
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,400
I, I I was actually paying 
attention to the beginning of 

1637
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,840
the show. 
Didn't you guys place like 7th 

1638
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,480
in prime time? 
Isn't that kind of? 

1639
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:05,200
Piece. 
Yeah. 

1640
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,040
Yeah, we. 
Did well once once we got to the

1641
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,200
prime times, our Co managers, 
you know, dutifully reminded us.

1642
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,280
They set the KDS, Yeah. 
Then we then we argued with them

1643
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,680
about what they said. 
That's how that's how we like. 

1644
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,280
Guys, All right, Mike, I'm going
to let you go. 

1645
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,920
We're going to do a wrap up with
a little roundup I collected 

1646
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,000
from the discord here of some 
other wins. 

1647
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,480
I wanted to shout some people 
out, but thank you again for for

1648
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:28,360
swinging by. 
Not a problem. 

1649
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:29,920
Thanks so much guys all. 
Right. 

1650
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,000
We'll see you, Mike. 
Thanks. 

1651
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:37,440
Yeah, I just wanted to pull this
up here because we had. 

1652
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,720
I asked people in the Ship 
Chasing Discord to share some of

1653
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,200
their wins. 
Shout out some people. 

1654
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:46,920
Here we have our guy. 
Sacrilegious. 

1655
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,080
I'm not sure which contest this 
was on. 

1656
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:53,160
DraftKings, $5000 hit. 
Finishing in 15th here. 

1657
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:54,160
Our guy. 
Shit. 

1658
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:55,440
Yeah. 
The Achievers who just went on 

1659
01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:58,680
the Rotoviz podcast. 
I heard Colum won't say shit. 

1660
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,160
Yeah, the Achievers when he's on
there get censored. 

1661
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,440
Yeah. 
What did he say? 

1662
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,080
Just, yeah, The Achievers. 
I think I will. 

1663
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:09,800
I will put some respect on your 
name. 

1664
01:28:10,440 --> 01:28:12,440
Third of the ship. 
He had the achievers now that he

1665
01:28:12,440 --> 01:28:13,640
shipped. 
Yeah. 

1666
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:19,960
Oh, I like that ship. 
Yeah, the Achievers. 12 1/2 K he

1667
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,880
calls it the Achievers. 
The Irish are cruise obviously. 

1668
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,000
We already got shot in here. 
Shout out to Chipsy who was in 

1669
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,880
that same puppy contest with Mr.
Peter Wiggin. 

1670
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:39,320
Finished in fourth year for 20K.
Good job chipsy man. 

1671
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,600
We got to shout out this guy. 
I'm blanking on his actual name,

1672
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,320
money, printer go. 
I don't know if you guys saw 

1673
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,120
this. 
He finished first in the 

1674
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,080
consolation bracket for FFPC and
he would have won the main 

1675
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:55,360
event. 
The guy who won, the main DM, 

1676
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,960
me, said he watches some 
stealing bananas or listens to 

1677
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,800
some bananas. 
So yeah, that was fun, but. 

1678
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:11,640
Yeah, that's chip chasing or. 
Our guy Texas, who we did a who 

1679
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,400
we did a main event draft with 
got fifth in the Chihuahua too. 

1680
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:20,920
Congratulations to for off suit 
finished 10th in the puppy. 

1681
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:26,000
And then JB Phil starting to 
kind of you know my requirements

1682
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,440
for what you could post top 500 
best Volvadia regular season. 

1683
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:34,760
I guess we'll allow it. 
JB Congratulations back Nova 

1684
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,800
third in the Chihuahua but 
Superflex and 7th in the FFPC 

1685
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:43,760
Best ball for 9 K Our guy Shorty
got 93rd in the FFPC main event.

1686
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,240
Chung, Our guy Chung here got 
third. 

1687
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,760
I believe in the best ball 
tournament play offs the the 

1688
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:55,320
best ball that's on FFPC, so 
shout out to the ship chasers 

1689
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,920
for for some nice scores there. 
That's great. 

1690
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,920
I had two, so my team with Sean 
fell way off. 

1691
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,440
But I had two top 30 FFPC main 
event teams which is pretty 

1692
01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:09,080
cool. 
I only I had my highest ever was

1693
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,880
19th way back in 2020. 
I had never had any other in the

1694
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,760
top like 50, so two. 
The top 30 was pretty cool. 

1695
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:19,600
One was silver, one was Sean. 
Yeah, that is the Sean, one of 

1696
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:20,840
our dynasty. 
League is that. 

1697
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,720
Can we? 
Yeah, Sean talks about that all 

1698
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,560
the time, man. 
He loves you guys, this team. 

1699
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:32,440
Our team is pretty filthy. 
Yes, it was very fun to see all 

1700
01:30:32,440 --> 01:30:36,920
of the success everyone had and 
I I got a feeling 2024 is going 

1701
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:40,880
to be even bigger and better as 
we all kind of divide and 

1702
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,360
conquer these contests here. 
But yeah, it was a it was a 

1703
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,560
blast of a year. 
It felt good just to have a a 

1704
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,960
winning high stakes year for us.
We took a bath there multiple 

1705
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,480
years in a row, so it was fun to
to get on top this year. 

1706
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:59,200
Very. 
Yeah, so we we pretty much 

1707
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:02,960
firmed up our programming 
schedule for next week. 

1708
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,920
Gretch, first of all, you are 
heading when is the national 

1709
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:07,840
championship game? 
Monday. 

1710
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:12,840
Night it's Monday so now I'm 
flying to Houston Sunday morning

1711
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:16,680
back Tuesday, shout out Alaska 
Airlines giving us some some 

1712
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,160
direct flights down to Houston 
from Seattle at affordable 

1713
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:20,480
rates. 
You got all these other airlines

1714
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:24,120
like price gouging for the for 
the flights, but Alaska Airlines

1715
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:28,320
is a sponsor of UW and and like 
listed some legit affordable 

1716
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,640
stuff and good itineraries and 
it was like thank you, like I 

1717
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,360
hadn't bought my flight until 
they won. 

1718
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,360
I had a ticket, I hadn't bought 
my flight yet. 

1719
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,840
I bought it the morning after 
their semi final win 'cause they

1720
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:42,720
part of why I didn't buy it is 
people were buying all these 

1721
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,600
refundable flights that prices 
were already going through the 

1722
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,240
roof and then there was rumors 
that they would add more 

1723
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,400
flights. 
So Alaska Airlines came up 

1724
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,360
clutch, brought, gave us some 
more flights. 

1725
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:52,720
I'm flying Sunday, coming back 
Tuesday. 

1726
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,680
I'll miss the first show of the 
week, but then we got stuff 

1727
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,600
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 
next week. 

1728
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,280
That'll be a blast. 
Yeah, so those are all booked. 

1729
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:04,160
So on Monday we'll all sweat the
national championship game. 

1730
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:09,240
I've already tailed Gretch the 
first time he told me to bet on 

1731
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,840
Washington Huskies at hit. 
Second time, I said I was 

1732
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:16,320
telling you again, even though 
you weren't quite as forceful of

1733
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,080
like you should make this bet. 
And I said I don't care. 

1734
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,560
That hit didn't even get your 
permission already. 

1735
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,680
Bet the Huskies again for the 
national championship. 

1736
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,800
We just keep rolling it. 
On Oh, I mean, look. 

1737
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,080
How you feeling? 
I'm a little bit more nervous, 

1738
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:29,560
honestly. 
I so I told you about Texas. 

1739
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,640
We knew, we know Steve 
Sarkisian, their head coach, 

1740
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,400
really well. 
He coached at UW for several 

1741
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:35,960
years. 
We also kept hearing, I didn't 

1742
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,120
know Texas team very intimately,
but we kept hearing how they 

1743
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:39,880
have a really good interior 
defensive line. 

1744
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,920
You can't run on them. 
But their secondary was a 

1745
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,280
problem. 
And anyone who watched that game

1746
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,560
knows all the deep passing that 
Washington wanted to do. 

1747
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,400
Like every time they went down 
field, there was money. 

1748
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,640
Like it was. 
That's what we do well. 

1749
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,880
And so hearing that like you 
can't run on Texas, but their 

1750
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:54,480
secondary's a problem. 
That's why I was telling you 

1751
01:32:54,480 --> 01:32:56,440
guys. 
I was like kind of excited to 

1752
01:32:56,440 --> 01:32:58,360
see like what UW can do down 
field. 

1753
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,760
Michigan has apparently the 
second best pass defense in the 

1754
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,960
nation. 
So a little bit of a different 

1755
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:08,240
challenge on defense, definitely
a little bit concerned about 

1756
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:12,040
that. 
But I mean we got really good 

1757
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,160
receivers. 
We got Pennex is a really 

1758
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,360
accurate quarterback. 
We still have like a good 

1759
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,720
scheme. 
We've got to be the best passing

1760
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,640
offense they've faced all year. 
I mean, it's going to be 

1761
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,400
strength on strength. 
So it's just, yeah, I mean, I 

1762
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,600
don't, I don't feel like it's as
perfect of a match up, but it's 

1763
01:33:28,440 --> 01:33:29,680
it's gonna be fun. 
It's gonna be fun. 

1764
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,840
I'm definitely excited they're 
in the fucking national 

1765
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:32,840
championship. 
It's pretty sweet. 

1766
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,120
It's gonna be a blast. 
So everyone, TuneIn, root on the

1767
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,480
Huskies on Monday and then this 
is our programming schedule. 

1768
01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:42,520
So Tuesday we'll have a show, 
the Boomer opto reveal with 

1769
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,000
Hassan and Blair. 
I hope Hassan is in the lab 

1770
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,720
right now. 
On Wednesday, the three of us 

1771
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,880
here will be getting together. 
Pat will be revealing a a first 

1772
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,720
look at the ownership 
projections for the FFPC 

1773
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,800
contest. 
Don't even. 

1774
01:33:57,880 --> 01:33:59,240
Have the playoff team 
solidified? 

1775
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:03,120
I've already done the first run.
Yeah, the This is how you know 

1776
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,160
he's still hungry out there. 
Fucking love this contest. 

1777
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:10,520
I like literally was I I need to
draft so many playoff basketball

1778
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,840
teams. 
And I I did a playoff basketball

1779
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,400
pod earlier in the week and 
afterwards we were just like 

1780
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:20,000
kind of just talking through 
like who might be chalk and he 

1781
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,920
got the wheels turning. 
And I was like, I need to go in 

1782
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:26,040
the lab and get this first run 
going because it's so fun. 

1783
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,680
And I think this year's going to
be really, really interesting 

1784
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:34,120
with with Lamar, I think kind of
really driving things and at the

1785
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:37,040
ownership, at the quarterback 
ownership in a way we we don't 

1786
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,800
typically see in this contest. 
We see chalk condensed in this 

1787
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,520
contest in such a huge way, but 
not usually at quarterback in a 

1788
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:47,240
huge way and I think. 
Well, because the here we're 

1789
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:48,840
going to go down, we're going to
get ahead of ourselves. 

1790
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:52,200
But the, like the Lamar CMC 
pairing just fits together so 

1791
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:53,360
well. 
Yes. 

1792
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:58,080
Yeah, 'cause imagine going into 
the Super Bowl with Purdy 

1793
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:02,440
Flowers instead of Lamar CMC. 
And it's just going to be like 

1794
01:35:02,440 --> 01:35:05,280
Rich. 
I don't want that. 

1795
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,480
No, I want the Lamar one. 
I want the Lamar one when I go 

1796
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:10,120
to the Super. 
Bowl that was your old fret 

1797
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,560
hands with all of your friends. 
True, true. 

1798
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,640
But I think there's going to be 
a lot of Lamar CMC teams. 

1799
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,520
So yeah, it's. 
It's fun, but so the question 

1800
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:24,520
is, can you get there with the 
with the Zay debo or something 

1801
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,000
Like what? 
Is there another quarterback 

1802
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:27,760
that doesn't play in the? 
Season I think Al. 

1803
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:29,680
I think Al. 
I actually think the contest 

1804
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:33,600
will be more interesting if Sean
is Sean has his heart broken and

1805
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,640
the Bills don't make the 
playoffs you know which is 

1806
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:40,840
obviously unlikely but it could 
still happen and if there's 

1807
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:46,080
that's going to force people to 
Mahomes and hurts and I don't 

1808
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:47,560
think people really want to go 
there. 

1809
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,560
So you're just at that point, I 
think you would just see massive

1810
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:52,880
Lamar Chalk. 
You're still going to see a lot 

1811
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:56,320
of Lamar Chalk, but I think I 
think Allen offers a like a 

1812
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:01,800
fairly enticing secondary option
because you'll get four games. 

1813
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,800
Yeah, and we see that every 
year, like the sexiest four-game

1814
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,040
quarterback always catches a 
decent amount. 

1815
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,240
Yeah, yeah. 
And you don't. 

1816
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,160
You don't really want to play 
Diggs, right? 

1817
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,560
You. 
James Cook's fine, so I think 

1818
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:18,560
Allen will have plenty, but that
then forces you to like, pick a 

1819
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:19,840
Raven. 
That's not Lamar. 

1820
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,520
So I I still think people will 
go to Lamar a lot more than. 

1821
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,200
That, yeah, it's not gonna, 
yeah, wow. 

1822
01:36:24,440 --> 01:36:28,080
It's not gonna be like it's not 
gonna be Dak because Liam is 

1823
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,720
just so dominant in that, 
obviously. 

1824
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,280
I talked to Jacob Sanderson 
earlier today. 

1825
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,800
You're just like talking not as 
a part of the podcast, but he 

1826
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:40,320
was just saying like he's like, 
I I don't see why Liam won't be 

1827
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:45,080
90% owned. 
And I was like, I I don't either

1828
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:50,720
at 88%, he suggested. 
Totally polar to Rudd for 202 

1829
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,360
TDs this weekend. 
That's what we need for the Uber

1830
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,360
opto. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1831
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,560
I think, I really think there's 
going to be some huge chalk this

1832
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:03,000
year just because it's like if 
you get off of, there's certain 

1833
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,520
teams that's like, yeah, I would
like to get off this, but then 

1834
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,040
what do I do? 
Who do I pick? 

1835
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:10,200
But I picked them just to lose 
the CD. 

1836
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:14,320
Like hoax. 
No, you you have to just pick 

1837
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,920
against the Cowboys. 
Yeah, so we will. 

1838
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,160
We will be unpacking all of that
on Wednesday. 

1839
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,720
It flows into each other well, 
you get the Boomer opto, then we

1840
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,800
get the full picture with the 
ownership on Wednesday. 

1841
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,360
With the three of us on 
Thursday, we're going to have a 

1842
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,440
bit of a stat chasing hybrid 
crossover. 

1843
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:33,120
We'll be talking some FFPC 
playoff, but we're going to dive

1844
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:34,720
into everything. 
We're going to do some underdog 

1845
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,560
playoff contests because we'll 
of course have sacrilegious with

1846
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,960
us and I think we might even do 
one of the NFC playoff ones. 

1847
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,080
We haven't done a lot of content
around that. 

1848
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,600
I know like Leonie and Davis 
over the years have played in 

1849
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,360
that a good bit, so we might try
to tackle one of those as well. 

1850
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,360
And then the Friday grand 
finale, of course with Leonie, 

1851
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,320
we got to see with Dank with his
NBA schedule, if he can make it 

1852
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:58,640
work, but we will have kind of 
our final drunken build show 

1853
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:00,520
there with those guys. 
It's going to be a great week. 

1854
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,640
I honestly cannot wait. 
Yep, so stay tuned for those 

1855
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:10,360
shows next week. 
And then anything else for you 

1856
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:13,160
guys between now and then other 
than Gretch getting some tea 

1857
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:18,000
resting up for a big weekend? 
Legendary upside. 

1858
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,120
We got our dynamic rankings 
tool. 

1859
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,280
I'll just shout that out one 
more time. 

1860
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:27,080
I think it's it's pretty, pretty
fun to draft with and we using 

1861
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:31,880
it a bunch myself as I fire a 
bunch of these these tournament 

1862
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:35,560
teams on 100 Dog before turning 
my attention to the FFPC next 

1863
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:39,320
week. 
Yep, Gretch, Anything else for 

1864
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,040
you? 
Not a ton, no. 

1865
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:47,200
I'm so focused on the Huskies. 
I'll definitely do a a season 

1866
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:51,440
kind of recap right up at some 
point, but it's going to be 

1867
01:38:51,440 --> 01:38:56,240
pushed back a little bit because
I'm doing some traveling and and

1868
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:57,880
more focused on some other stuff
right now. 

1869
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,320
Yeah, I was. 
I was planning to do a lot of 

1870
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:05,000
underdog playoff drafts this 
week and cash game week has been

1871
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,680
pretty consuming so. 
Yeah, how's? 

1872
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:09,480
Are you able to get more on the 
site? 

1873
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,400
Did you get I've? 
Got it. 

1874
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:13,040
I've got it. 
Free, yes. 

1875
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:19,160
And I just accepted a $1000 head
to head from the BBM champ. 

1876
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,120
I mean so. 
Amazing. 

1877
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:23,360
I love. 
I love it. 

1878
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,360
Hey, I mean, maybe just go 
partying this weekend. 

1879
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,000
Maybe do some late DJ sets. 
Don't really worry about your 

1880
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:30,640
cash shell. 
Well, I should. 

1881
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:34,080
I should mention I'm going to be
talking with Amin tomorrow on 

1882
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,280
the legendary Upside podcast. 
OK. 

1883
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,440
Yeah, yeah, in order. 
In order we get to interview 

1884
01:39:41,480 --> 01:39:44,080
him. 
In order of who won, must who 

1885
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,000
won first. 
So Liam Liam took care of the 

1886
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:47,360
first interview. 
I'm doing the 2nd. 

1887
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,880
That that reminds me what what 
final story here, Underneath 

1888
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,480
here, I'm wearing my chasing 
Corrine shirt. 

1889
01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:54,800
I I grabbed it out today because
I was like, you know, this is 

1890
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,440
like one of the last few 
moments. 

1891
01:39:56,440 --> 01:39:58,120
You know, the shirts really no 
longer relevant. 

1892
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:02,320
We're all chasing a mean now. 
But April, Pat April was getting

1893
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,040
an absolute kick out of this 
shirt tonight. 

1894
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:06,720
And she has like this really 
like. 

1895
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,640
Precise attention to detail, 
like in books, she like, doesn't

1896
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:11,520
gravitate to the big thing. 
She's always like, oh, there's 

1897
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:12,720
the little duck or the little 
thing. 

1898
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,200
And she just kept pointing at 
your face and cracking up 

1899
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:17,560
tonight. 
And I would like bring her 

1900
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,160
closer and she's like, I think 
she just thought the head like 

1901
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,480
on the ship was so funny it. 
Is funny. 

1902
01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:27,320
And I have a funny experiment. 
That's awesome. 

1903
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,160
Yeah, that's great. 
All right, guys. 

1904
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,080
We appreciate you. 
Congratulations again to 

1905
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:37,040
everyone on the great years. 
We will see you around and the 

1906
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:39,920
next time you guys will see us 
on this channel Tuesday for the 

1907
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,000
Boomer Opto show with Son and 
Blair. 

1908
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,120
Enjoy your week 18. 
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