All right, good evening. Good evening.
It's Thursday, but there's no ship cast.
There's no pick Em's. But we do have lots to
celebrate. We figured we'd do a little
season in review, talk about how our high stakes teams finished
up with Steph, who led the charge for us all year.
We're going to have Sean from GO Bills GO, who took down the
puppy coming on in a bit, as well as one of our friends who
took down the big NFC best ball contest that we drafted mini
teams in. And I've been told behind the
scenes might even have to shout out at DeMarco this Robinson Tao
from this show. So we're going to do all of that
tonight on ship chasing. Let's get to it.
Pat Fryer, Helmo. This is why This is why I'm hot.
Anita Handjob. Fix your sight.
Jamar Alpha, play Chase. You can't handle the heat.
It looks like we're finally at this point.
You're right. All right, we got the crew here,
the normal ship cast crew. It felt weird, guys, to have a
Thursday afternoon where we weren't frantically trying to
get our pick em entries in. It's nice, yeah.
It's it's nice that there's not. There's a nice game this week,
Nice that there's not a walkthrough for me to ride on on
this particular Thursday. So I've enjoyed this Thursday,
yeah. Gretch, how are you doing?
We got to hear a little recap of your big trip.
Go Huskies. Yeah, my, I mean, I I guess a
lot of this week felt different for me, obviously.
So my Thursday wasn't so, so different than the whole week
Sunday. I'm usually right here watching
all the games on my on my, on my computers and I was instead in a
sports book in New Orleans. Got to watch that Husky game on
Monday night that was pretty intense.
But yeah, it's been a been a wild week for me for sure.
The last ship cast a week ago. I mean, it feels like that was
like 2 months ago. It really.
I want to hear more about the trip real quick.
Steph, how you doing? Wavers.
Long gone. Does it feel good to be done
with the season here? You know, it's one of those
mixed feeling things. It's like, yes, it's nice to
have a little bit of a break, but you know, and it's like
you're kind of sad it's over. That's how I was like, yeah, my
Thursday was a little more chill and then I'm like, but I didn't
have any Showdown lineups to build.
I didn't have any pickums to build.
So yeah, I I feel you on that. Yeah.
Gretch. Like what?
What was the highlights? Other than obviously your
Huskies winning, any, any notable moments stuff you you
survived Bourbon Street thanks to Cooter Doodle's tips.
Yeah, yeah. We all survived.
No, no big, you know, scary things happened or anything like
that. You didn't buy any lettuce.
I didn't buy any lettuce or any other substances either fake or
real. I flew into Atlanta and drove
down with a buddy of mine. So it was one of the one of the
highlights was the drive down just with with my buddy who like
I I got Steph. You'll you'll be able to talk
about this. I gotta go to a Bucky's for the
first time they they apparently opened.
In Texas. Yeah, so I'm actually a horrible
Texan, and Tyler made fun of me for this.
I've never been to Bucky's, but I know that it's known for the
bathrooms and beef jerky. Yes, it's very.
And then I like, I bought my daughter a a stuffed animal From
there they had like hundreds of stuffed animals in this place,
these little Beavers and there's insane.
I mean, it was a it was a it was all spectacle.
We got barbecue on like the side of the road in in Alabama, in
the middle of Alabama, and then we found out like after we're
already eating that this guy is his last day.
He he's been cooking BBQ at this place since 1987, since the year
I was born and it was his last day.
And that's a good sign. It was.
Incredible shout out it was.
It was Mr. Goldsmith Gold Barbecue in Atmore, AL.
That was fantastic Bourbon Street.
A lot of walking in New Orleans, man.
Got got a lot of steps in. There was a a parade or a yeah,
parade, right? Does that recall the floats and
everything? Man, my brain doesn't even work
yet. That's what that's called.
A procession. What do you call these?
Ate some good food? Went to, you know, a fun Spotted
Cat Music Club for New Year's. I've been there.
Good, good music. Yeah.
I mean, it was a blast. The whole the whole trip was
fun. The, I mean, obviously the whole
thing, the Huskies win was kind of the whole thing.
I'm excited, though, to hear about how our teams did all that
stuff. Sunday was wild.
It was a whirlwind. And then, you know, with Monday
right around the corner and the Huskies game and being in New
Orleans, I didn't ever really like, get a full breakdown of
like where we finished and all this stuff.
So I'm kind of excited. With the the idea, yeah.
Why? I mean, we we have so many
things and sweats and stuff to cover.
How about before we pull up Steph's piece, that kind of is a
good way to do an overview of how our team's finished Quran.
Why don't you tell us a little bit about your BBM sweat on
Sunday? Because even though you weren't
near the top of the leaderboard, per SE, like there was a moment
there heading into that Seattle, Pittsburgh game where you were
very live if certain things broke your way.
Yeah, so the Breeze game on Thursday was nice.
And then we have the game Saturday where I I was telling
drip beforehand like I kind of need.
There's like a few ways this can go, like the the Saturday game
can blow up and then I'm actually a little bit thin
because like, it's just going to be like me holding hands with a
bunch of teams that have this game really stacked up, but I
need it. Or it could be like totally dud.
And then I'm completely relying on Geno Smith.
So I'm not dead, but I'm feeling pretty dead.
And then the other thing is that it can kind of like go off, but
not fully. And that's probably my best case
scenario because as long as like the piece that I need, you know,
I get big scores out of a couple of pieces and then I can get
different in other spots. And that's what happened.
You know, I had CD and I at the very end I got a, the one thing
I absolutely needed was a tight end score.
So I got Laporta to get to like 12 points.
I was like, I can, I can live with that.
And then heading into to Sunday was still Geno Smith was my
path, but he didn't need to have like this massive game.
As the day went on, what I needed became more and more.
But at one point I was like, I don't need like a huge, huge
game. But yeah, I mean, it really was
like I needed Gino and at least one of his two receivers to have
a really strong game. And as it was clear that wasn't
happening, I was like, I can't, I can't take it down.
But it was still fun to have Jalen Warren hit the line up.
Him and Bruce be my most drafted players.
He almost had an even bigger game.
Rudolph had him wide open for another touchdown.
But yet I have to say, I mean sweating like Pete Carroll, like
hoping Pete Carroll will play aggressively and then watch him
him call a game like Pete Carroll is.
It's a little soul crushing but as.
As someone who's rolled out like Gino Double stacks three or four
weeks this season, like, I trust me.
Like, I I don't know why I keep ramming my head against that
wall, but it is a painful sweat trying to get Pete Carroll to
pass it. Really.
Is you're muted gretch? Sean and I did the the similar
thing where we decided to well, we didn't really decide to.
We lost from Andre and then we lost Jaylen Waddle, but we had
Goff Almond Raw on Saturday. We had Breese and the Browns D
on Thursday. We're talking about this on
Thursday night. We rose all the way to 3rd in
the FFPC going into Sunday, but we'd already used four players.
But having lost having lost Jalen Wild the week prior from
Andre a few weeks earlier, we had to play a random flex and we
ended up landing on cow pits. We literally talked for the hour
before Locke about either Josh Downs or Quinton Johnson was
actually a a real conversation. We ended up going to cow pits.
And anyway, this sweat you were just describing with Pete
Carroll was very similar to mine with cow pits.
Yeah, yeah. Arthur Smith and Pete Carroll.
What a great place to be. Yeah, But I'd end up being.
I mean, I finished. I ended up finishing 36th, which
is still very fun. You know, to have to be in the
mix and have a sweat. And then I I ended up taking
down a smaller the Big Dog 3. So best ball manning three to
the Big Dog three is is is a year later.
But did you also finish? In that one or did you kind of
run away with that I? Kind of ran away with that.
No one really had. AI had like 170 points or
something and I think the next highest might have been like
120, a 130 even with the Sunday night game like they couldn't.
I was just yeah. And then I the big or no sorry,
the I was in the Bulldog 2 and that one I was looking really
strong for 2nd and then the Jordan Love game.
The final touchdown that he threw bumped me down from 2nd to
3rd there. So that was that was my like
real sweat, which didn't go great And then I was like locked
into third like that. I had a big big league for 3rd.
So Mccaffrey's injury there kind of hurt.
But yeah that was that was the best ball.
I finished luck. It was like luckily in that the
three tournaments I really cared about were the ones where I got
good scores and then I was in the palm too.
Didn't do much there and I was in the Chow.
Chow didn't do much there, so at least you.
Know there were a lot of people kind of sweating how you were
doing in the palm. No one, no one, no one really
checked in on that one yet. You mentioned you mentioned the
Jordan Love game. I would say are like in within
the ship chasing world, our funnest sweat was the Buckeye
Boomers Sunday sweat there with Jayden Reed absolutely surging
down here. I know you have this one written
up here, Steph. We ended up finishing in 7th
place overall in prime time. And where do you remember where
we were heading into that game? Steph on that team?
Well, we're back 86 spots, so don't make me do the math in my
head. Yeah, so in in the 90s there,
93rd overall heading in and then just a total surge in that game.
And we we were starting to get a little greedy too, 'cause we're
looking at how could we go up higher and then JD Reed actually
ends up leaving, leaving the game.
I mean, you were very, yeah, we were only a few points.
It was quite a big jump still to 1st, but there was only, you
know, a handful of points from, you know, probably 4th through
7th. They're like it would have
easily another couple catches and you know it's so top heavy
that just moving up those couple spots could be a lot of money.
But both the prime time teams started off back-to-back, so you
kind of saw the tail of two teams.
What can happen in that final week?
One went up and one went down. I think it was fun too, right?
Because this was the team where we had Devante Adams, right?
And you know, he had a, you know, overall down year, a few
spike weeks. But to get I believe this, this
had to have ended up being his best game of the year, right?
His his Week 17 game it. Has to.
Be I mean, I think he had another 40 point game somewhere
in the mix, but it was way early in the season.
It had. It's been a while since he's
done anything and Bijon still little better but not great, you
know? Yeah, this team, like, you look
at who was in our starting lineup and there were so many
players that surged late. You know, Breece Hall came on
late. You got the one massive George
Pickens game in Week 16. I mean, Laporta was consistent.
Right. Oh, you do.
You do and you don't. On this team.
We didn't play Pickens. We didn't play Pickens.
Oh, what is this? What is this screenshot from
here? Steph.
No. We played.
We played in this past week, but not in weeks.
Yeah, I was like you played him because you sat JSN and then it
was between deciding with Reed or Dobbs.
We played in week 17. We didn't play in week 1621.
Gotcha. Oh, and you were supposed to do
it the other way, playing Week 16.
I think he was good in both, right?
He was good in both, yeah. You won him for Week 16 though
for. Sure would have been nice and
played him in the first one because we would, I mean would
have jumped even further. Yeah.
There were talks of people were thinking he was going to get
benched and stuff. I mean, nobody was going to
start him at. The No, I mean, I I did not.
I'm when I'm when I wrote him up in the walkthrough, I was like,
yeah, you know they keep cannibalizing each other.
It's not. It's annoying.
Like I was not particularly optimistic, but.
Yeah, so, yeah, Awesome to see this team finish so strong here.
I missed this sweat entirely 'cause we went, we went out on
in in Bourbonshire and everything.
I remember I was checking in and it was halftime and I was like,
how do you people on? And I wasn't even in East Coast
time. I was in Central Time.
How do you guys do this? Where, like, the game started
7:00 PM out here on the West Coast, like, I mean, it was like
9 PM, 10:00 PM We were like out of the late dinner.
There's games on. It's just like.
Man, that's just that's just how everyone lives.
Yes, it is. How it works everyone but West
Coasters. It's confusing, so you know.
It's a way of life here, Steph. Talk about our waiver chasing
team. We end up finishing in a 155th
here, a good season, but couldn't really surge during
that playoff stretch. No, like I well, like I said, we
kind of had the opposite trajectory where we actually
went way up last week and we're sitting in a good spot because
we started lower and then we were ahead of the other team and
then we fell. So, you know, I was really
optimistic, OK, you know, wanting to think that Kelsey,
like this was the best spot, if there was ever like a spot, you
know, playing Cincinnati against the tight ends, you know,
they're one of the best teams. And he did absolutely nothing.
We already talked about the Gino's sweat, how that went.
So we sat Stafford and went with Gino.
Wasn't that big a difference. It wouldn't have mattered.
We had some disappointing running back other than Greece.
You know, Swift and Gibbs didn't do it for us, so.
Yeah, I mean, Kelsey was. Obviously a.
Huge disappointment all year. I I was particularly
disappointed with kind of like the second-half for DeAndre
Swift. I mean that kind of run out for
him. It seemed like it was gonna.
I always remember we did that ship cast.
It was the commander's game and he was running so well on that
Thursday night and in hindsight it was the fresh legs and the
commander's defense that was making him look so good.
And it Well, I don't know. The Eagles just haven't looked.
Especially the defense, but. Yeah.
And then they keep rolling out gain well too and stuff so.
Yep, question had both the Garrett, Wilson, Breeze Hill
pairing, which was a pairing we had on on many teams.
I would say our worst sweat was losing first place.
In our 2500 with Leone, we end up losing by just a couple of
points. We had a 1V1 essentially down a
couple points to their Tucker craft, our Ty Chandler and
there's just a million. Woulda, shoulda coulda's
basically any you know, Christian McCaffrey touchdown in
week 16, him not leaving the game early, us playing Kenneth
Walker instead of Ty Chandler this week.
Like guys, there's so many ways we let $9000 slip out of our
hands. And I and I kind of like you
know once we knew that Walker was going to be in, I kind of
like re asked was like but he was still then dropped you know
on ETR which you know Leonie worked for.
So we kind of you know assumed that was his lien is what his
projections say. You know they they docked him a
little bit from where he was you know with the injury situation
and you know we thought that you know with CMC and Purdy and you
know all these guys that it wouldn't really be close.
So it was like played the same, you know, we thought play the
safer guy that there's not some sort of injury concern with or
you know, leaving early. So it makes all the sense in the
world just to. I mean.
I remember when we're in. When Warren's scoring points for
my PBM team, I remember thinking like, well, this doesn't even
really matter because Ty Chandler's going to outscore him
and not like I felt that way until he was like, you know,
above 15 points. And I was like, well, then he
might, maybe he doesn't get there, but like, I I don't know.
I felt very confident that Chandler was going to have a
good game. Yeah, I think we all did.
Yeah, so you look at this, this was a team, we had a pretty
giant lead. And then you just look at these
scores across week 17. I mean, Iuke had a good game,
but I mean Gibbs in a shootout, environment 5.3 points.
CMC leaves the game early, Devante, 6 points.
You know Drake London's Drake London Laporta was fine but
Chandler 9.4 even our defense. This was the dark side of the
big breeze hall in The Jets. The Jets gave to his our Browns
kicker a defense. I guess the defense was fine at
14 but man that one stings. It.
It literally guys was like what a 2 1/2 point swing.
So first place in the 2500 was 14K and 2nd place was 5K.
So. We did sweep the regular season
payouts for another 5K, so I mean, it still was a very
profitable league. But yeah, that Nine K drop, the
the, the lesson from that roster, I think.
I mean, we just didn't have enough receivers.
This is a team where Leoni really wanted to take Marquis
Brown at one point. So we just had more receiver
depth. And I know I was pushing for us,
taking on a swing. I think it was a Quinton
Johnston who didn't hit. I mean, not that Marquis Brown
wouldn't necessarily, but I don't think he played last.
Week, right, But Drake London not.
Really. Drake London.
Not really hitting. I mean, even though we were able
to play 3 receivers most or three running backs most weeks
and have the porta like our wider 3 wide receiver, three
spot was an issue the whole year on this team, yeah?
It was. But you guys still killed the
competition. I mean, you were in the regular
season like you said, you got the sweep with regular points
and 1st. I mean, it's still turned out
strong, but I agree that because you have to start like 3 wide
receivers in this format. Yep, yeah, this is, this will
definitely go down just collectively as our best ship
chasing portfolio year had a very profitable year across both
FFPC and NFC. It just it just stinks.
Yeah, it's nice to tilt about a team where you finish first in
points, first in record, and then barely didn't win and got
second. I mean, that's obviously very
tilting, but it's a so it was a hell of a team.
It's AI mean what's yes? And then also like after week
15, we were up by like 100 points.
Like I didn't even think this. Was.
Possible, I know, I know. Well, on Week 16 you got within
three. They caught up because you had
those that that really bad down week and 49ers and stuff. 49ers.
Well, that's what did it is the week because then they were only
like 3 points behind that second place team.
So it was pretty much neck and neck this week.
Starting even grounds. Yep.
The Silver Bullet team this. We really enjoyed this contest
on NFC. Obviously a single entry
tournament, but it is a very tight and top heavy contest.
We're only the top ten get paid additionally there we finished
13th. So just outside of the money
there, but this was this was a fun team.
And like, I thought we were gonna finally get there, 'cause
you we had the Lamar Jackson Isaiah likely stack there in
Week 17, but just not enough to push us in there.
'Cause you were in 7th place also on this one the week
before. This is another one where week
16 was was pretty devastating. Or the Yeah, or 15, yeah.
We were up there after 15, if I remember.
I was in. Teams, yeah.
That week 15, Cook has the tough like it's on.
We had Cook on several good teams and after week 15 they
were looking a lot better than they were after week. 17.
Yelp. Yeah, James Cook has those.
What ends up being back-to-back down games against the Chargers
and the Pats really, really hurts.
And then you basically just have to pray you have the right combo
of running backs around him. But yeah, to not get to take
advantage of the Lamar Jackson Isaiah likely.
Like if you show up to the underdog tournaments with those
guys at the finals, like you're shipping, you know?
So yeah, but really enjoyed that single entry.
We then head down to our FFPC main events, our Chase and Go
Bill squad, which what was quarterback list for both Week
15 and 16 it. Was and it because it scored
like 200 points without a without a quarterback and then
you lost, Well, you and monster. Yeah, yeah.
And that was the problem, because then you lost monster.
And then we still didn't have a quarterback.
Well. 16 was a disaster. You got a quarterback?
In the 17. Players, and we had to start
Chase Brown and and Logan Thomas, as you know.
I mean, those were not our 'cause.
This was a really, you know, strong team pretty much all
season and really deep. So we were not like.
Yeah, it felt like it had a real chance to win the whole thing
200. Points without a quarterback,
yeah. This team was sick.
It it was one of the better
teams, yeah. Yeah, ended up again being
another profitable team because we got the full sweep I believe
right, for that one first place in the regular season.
So shout out Daryl AKA Alex Keaton.
We had a blast drafting with him live in Vegas and there's
certainly ways that this team breaks a little differently
where it is just a an absolute Uber smash there really like how
we constructed this one. The team that we had that
collectively finished the highest in the main event was
our minisodes team. The first slow draft we did ends
up finishing in 130th place. Another kind of James Cook,
Jalen Warren team that didn't have most dirt.
Got the big CD Lamb Brandon Iuke stuff, but just couldn't piece
together all of our alpha wide receivers like going Nuke at the
right times. And we were pulling the levers
all over the place doing the Geno DK stack here.
And you know we also have Debo on this team.
We benched him just trying to to to to increase our likelihood of
climbing in in that final week. Yeah, Did did Metcalf end up
outscoring Debo? It must have been close, right?
I'm not sure. I.
Think touchdown, but didn't do much else.
I think Debo got under 20 still. I think it was like maybe 17.
OK. Yeah, I mean, it was.
Two weeks in a row in the first week it was did did get us
points. He had 18.2, so yeah, he had a
little more, OK. Yeah, what do you what do you
guys think? I mean, A.J.
Brown was another guy, right? What did he have that string of
five straight 125 yard games there?
At one point. And then just really fell off.
Yeah, he he was pretty disappointed.
Not as disappointing as Smith I. Just pulled up his game out.
Didn't have a 20 point game after that stretch of the 125
yard games. Only had one more 100 yard game
the rest of the year and closed the season the the fantasy
playoffs. Three straight sub 15 point
games. And plus daughter was out.
It was weird. And it's also tough, like this
was a zero RB squad that was absolutely loaded.
This is a team that had Jordan Addison, Deontay Johnson, some
other wide receivers you might consider.
But it's like it's probably similar to the Stefan Diggs
thing too, right? Where it's like you just feel
like you can never bench them like you can't.
You don't want to bench that profile.
You know what they're capable of.
But in a way, they can end up being like kind of a roster
clogger if they never return to their form.
Right. I mean, CD was also kind of in
that mix where he got a little quieter and then he blew back
up. So that's like kind of why you
feel like you can't do it. I think A.J.
Brown does have that nuclear ceiling that, you know, CD just
showed off. So do you.
Guys have any thoughts? Because we've we've wrestled
back and forth every year. We always do that first slow
draft, kick it off around 4th of July.
When they open them up, everyone always kind of debates.
Do you want to draft early? You want to back load them?
I mean this team seems like a pretty strong indication of some
of the values we were able to get early that weren't
available. Like James Cook was going what,
4-5 rounds higher when main events wrapped versus where we
got him. We took him at 711.
He was a fifth round pick by the end of main events.
Yeah, I mean I think this, this tournament probably rewards the
early drafting super team element a little bit more than
you know something like best Balmania.
You know because like you can miss on more picks and getting
because you because you have a waiver available to you and
having like unique combos that you show up to the Sprint with
is more powerful. So yeah, I mean, I, I really
like this team's like very fun and definitely I think one that
benefited from drafting early. So obviously, you know the team
we just talked about with Darrell was when we drafted live
in Vegas. So you can build really strong
teams there too. But I do think it kind of gives
you like this team not only was strong, but I mean we had so
much depth that we were able to do some interesting lever
pulling in the tournament itself, whereas our other teams
were kind of more like, all right, this is the roster and
it's not really up for debate. Dom adds some an interesting
note there in the chat. That first place this year,
second place last year drafted after week 1.
Before this year, my previous high team in in the FFPC was
also drafted after. TNFI think there's there's pros
to both basically, right? Me too.
Yeah, there there are. And I also would say this year
specifically had that reverse thing where it's very rare
you're going to get players like Jonathan Taylor and Cooper Cup
as mega discounted as they were in those mains right before the
season started. That felt a little unique.
You know, normally the values are moving in in the other
direction, Kelsey. Tip and Kelsey.
Yeah, I think my takes were late this year.
I think my take would be that in the early window, like I I think
my take would be that you, you need to draft differently.
You need to be very aware of when you're drafting and how
you're drafting right? And it's OK to just take, you
know, the singles or whatever. We called A.J.
Brown a triple when we were doing this draft.
Like some of the more the the safer picks.
One of the things when I'm looking at this draft, I'm
reminded of when I pulled up the draft board and saw James Cook
at 7:11 was that big debate we had about Jordan Addison or Evan
Ingram. At 8:02, we ended up taking
Addison. He was great.
I know there was a point this year where I was like, thank God
Pat got us on Addison. It actually turned out that we
didn't play him the last like five or six weeks.
Didn't even consider it really because of how deep our other
receivers were. We started this draft with six
straight receivers and I do think Ingram would have been in
hindsight, the pick because we never really found the tight end
ceiling. We ended up taking Greg Dulcich
the next round and and didn't really ever have a legit tight
end and he's sort of this like Ingram is sort of this example
of a player that I do think earlier James Cook and we took
Deante Johnson in this draft who wasn't great.
But it I mean I I think you want to take bigger swings late right
like the Kyron Williams pick was more clear at at the very end of
of draft season. People were getting more in on
that type of like a huge swing late in the draft and like a
little bit of a safer, more careful, more value oriented
draft strategy. If you're drafting in July, like
is that seem fair? Yeah.
Although I guess my we can next year when we have the same
argument we can time out with your guy at the top of the
queue. But, but I still think like the
Addison pick to me, I mean like it wasn't Johnston even or
Flowers. Like, I just felt like Addison
gave us a like a value. Like he wasn't usually there and
he gave us a lot of upside late season at the wide receiver
position that we ended up not needing at all.
But I I still feel like. Usual, right?
Because normally the whole thing we say is like some of these
guys are going to be Buss, some of them are going to get
injured. It just so happened that our
four horses, you know, pretty much stayed healthy and within
the top 20 wide. Receivers, we did start with
six, We did start with six straight receivers.
And I do think there's an element of drafting like you're
right to some degree, even in season long.
Well, I'm saying that it wouldn't have felt like we had
so much depth if what normally happens plays out, which is you
get the injury or you get the bust.
These guys, like, didn't bust or get injured.
Right. But shouldn't you be drafting
for the top 1% outcome is what I'm saying.
We're like the if you start with six straight receivers you you,
I, I, I, I I felt at the time and I I think looking back on it
and again I I said in a period I was glad that we took Addison.
But I think, again, looking back on it now that I think there's
an element where you're drafting, when you take these
six early receivers, you can't draft scared like, well, what if
three of these guys bust? Like that's then we're fucked.
Yeah, that's not really what I was feeling.
I was kind of feeling more like A.J.
Brown is A.J. Brown.
But then, you know, if he pulls A hammy and we start Addison
late and like, you kind of have this, you kind of have this
monster team that like nothing can stop and you're just like,
doesn't matter, Doesn't matter, 'cause you have this rookie
breakout, it gives you this, this late season upside hammer
that kind of takes a team to another level.
It's kind of my thinking. It's tough because Ingram was a
much better pick than I thought he would be.
So if you have that, it was like an evaluation miss there.
And then we also like, ended up with Laporta on a million of our
teams, but not this one, he went.
He started going really early, though.
Laporta like later in draft season.
Very late, yeah. He actually went, he went eleven
O 2 in this draft he went. OK, that's pretty early.
Yeah. That's probably the way he
didn't get them. Yeah.
Let's hit on a couple of these other ones real quick before Dom
or sorry, Sean. I get all the the Go Bills guys,
They're all the same to me. No, I'm just kidding.
I'm excited to adapt tonight. The five force men.
This was our other team in the FFPC Sprint with our rotoviz
brethren here. This one was starting to come on
of late. It was another Breece Hall
Garrett Wilson team. Again, pretty strong finish in
Week 17. You know you get the Breece Hall
stuff, you get Laporta Rashi Rice really coming on, but just
a little too late for this team and some kind of big duds in
there at times. Bijan really kind of bringing
some some stuff down for sure and.
Garrett Wilson had a down week. We're hoping to see a lot more
out of Bijan in the the playoff weeks and just didn't get it and
this team was needed to make up a lot of ground.
Yeah, I mean, it won its season, so it just had, it had then it
kind of fell off in the first couple weeks in the playoffs and
started pretty well. Bijon is going to have like such
a sick 4th year. Whenever Arthur Smith is gone,
can. You please just get fired. 4th
year Steph tell us about your team with Wu Tang Killa Bees
Christie. You guys ultimately finished in
86th place. Really nice year there.
Yeah, so if we one more spot and we would have gotten the free
entry to main event. So we went down $500.00 for the
last game. But yeah, we had Lamar, who
obviously had the huge game, Warren, who, you know everybody
had. We had on and raw.
We're really stacked at receiver 'cause we had a lot of injuries
to our receivers late, but luckily we were really deep, so
we still. That's a nice start because you
know, Nico. And then we had Keenan Allen we
didn't have for the playoffs. We got lucky that Nujoku came on
late. That was huge for us because
tight end was a big weak spot. And then we ended up getting
mayor and you know, he didn't play either.
So that was our only in the tight end.
We tried to leverage the kicker and defense a couple times.
Luckily, I insisted on starting Houston defense.
I was like, no, I just we need to do it.
But I said Sanders both playoff weeks.
Oh jeez. Yeah, so that that hurt.
And then we have Addison on this team also, which we missed the
first week where he went off and then we played in the week he
got hurt. Yeah, this is a really nice team
now seeing all these players and having like the hits, like, I
mean Nico Collins, you know, when he was healthy was a total
league winner. I mean, David, the joke we talk
about like tight end, premium league winner right there, I
mean, just scorched the earth down the stretch, some really
nice picks there. Silva, Silva and I had Njoku on
a team that was in the injuries team.
That team ended up finishing 13th with Silva.
Really. Wow.
Just like on the back of Njoku. On the back of Njoku is another
almond rod team. Paris and Etienne are the two
that I made him take that that he was really bad about.
This is the one we got into a huge fight about.
We also have Kyron Williams on this.
You got a huge fight. You finished 13th.
So fucking. Secret.
So good. Well Steph, we're going to bring
Sean on here in one SEC. But again, just want to
punctuate how thankful we are for all the work you put in this
year. It was awesome that we were able
to have a successful year with the team that we collectively
drafted. It doesn't always work out like
that, and it's definitely a testament to all the work you
put in. Like all those little edges each
week it just seems like 1 little edge, but you stack them up and
then you look across the portfolio and you can really see
how it played out in a really nice way.
So thank you again for all your hard work.
No problem. It was, it was great working
with you guys and I had a blast doing it and you know, I look
forward to working with everybody and you know working
with Pat here and we got good things coming this year.
So we. Do, Yeah.
We're going to run it back next year.
We're going to take down some of these top tournaments.
You know, each year we keep leveling up 2024.
That's the year we we take it down.
Right, Steph. I think so.
I can feel it's going to be our year.
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season. Yeah, you know, maybe every
couple weeks. We'll see.
It might be still every week. Just depends on how busy I am
every time. But I'll try to, you know, just
kind of whatever I'm thinking about with that relates, you
know, football life a little bit here and there, you'll see.
Well. I don't always plan it out ahead
of time. That's.
All right. You got to, you just got to be
inspired. That's how that's how it works.
All right, Steph, we are going to bring Sean on now, but thank
you again. It's been a blast getting to
check in with you throughout the year on the ship cast.
You're the best all. Right.
Bye guys. Hi, Steph.
All right. And now coming to the stage, the
formerly most unheralded member of the Go Bills crew, It is Sean
Stutzman. I mean, I was Googling your your
name. I was trying to find stuff for
the thumbnail and I saw that your other two partners did an
actual interview on local Bills TV and you weren't there.
I was sick. Yeah.
I was under the weather and and the boy and then and the guys
were able to make it on. I was at home.
I believe I had to actually. I might have had COVID.
It was that when I got COVID that year, I believe.
So yeah, they were. They were on channel, I think
Channel 4 News in Buffalo. I'm sitting at home watching
them live talking about all the stuff we're doing.
I'm just like, hey, you know what?
I'm not. I'm not complaining.
Not complaining at all, obviously.
We've had a pretty good run so far.
Does this make up for that or is a little?
Short little bit. You know what?
You know, shipping the puppy on my own dime feels that's not the
worst. Yeah, that's not the worst.
Yeah see we're we're trying to do the go Bills GO thing in
reverse. So it's like you guys
collectively win the million and then you win the puppy.
Pat won best Palmania and now we're collectively trying to win
one of those big tournaments it. It makes sense.
Just do it in reverse. You know, you, you gotta, you
gotta repeat though, That's the tough part, is you gotta go
back-to-back and that's not, you know, it's not something that's
done every day. I I know I blew it there.
Maybe maybe you can. So you wouldn't that was exactly
that. That would be pretty.
That'd be pretty sick. I.
Can't believe I won once, Yeah. Pete, I was hoping you and I
would just ship the the BBM on our team that almost got into
the final. I mean, we didn't.
We didn't need Pat to be right along with us.
He's already a freaking million. I already have written in my
head. Groucho's like all caps.
BBM goes through ship chasing a lot, and it was right after that
that CMC didn't score a touchdown and the team didn't
advance so. Brutal.
How? How many times did that happen
this year? CMC didn't score the touchdown?
I mean, I know, yeah. So what is it like?
Obviously you've been playing FFPC for a while.
At what point did you start getting into the underdog
streets? Like what is the the back story
to you ultimately winning the puppy here?
Yeah, so I dabbled very lightly in 2021, maybe 20 teams across
the whole thing. I I discovered it then the year
we won the FFPC the first time. So I just played around with it
a little bit. Last year I did about 500 ish
teams. I did like 100 or so in BBM and
enjoyed it, didn't do that great.
We the the three of us, actually had a bulldog team that made the
final week but finished last. I had a puppy team that got made
like 3K, but this year after shipping the main event again
and I was just like, you know what?
I'm 'cause I played poker a little bit as kind of a side
thing. That was I was just doing
fantasy football and poker, and I decided I'm going to take a
step back from poker and try to aggressively play basketball,
fantasy football, and see if I can make any runs, do anything
crazy. So I ended up with about 1000
drafts on Underdog, and then about 600 more.
Across drafters and DraftKings, Max rushed a bunch of stuff.
Yeah, I was, I went pretty aggressively after it and and of
1600 teams, I put 6IN week 17. So it's like you can do that
much work and get only six teams at week 17.
But I happen to have one of the exact right ones that you needed
to to make the money. So you know, it worked out.
It worked out pretty good. But it was, I mean it was a long
grinding summer. I mean, I was in, you guys talk
about slow draft hall. I was probably in 400 slow
drafts at one time during the summer.
At different times, I think I. I think I got the 250 at most
and it was. It's it's a lot that was.
Way too many. What did you, what did you, what
did you Did you just draft them as they came up or how did you
approach it? Because I'll tell you what I did
after you. I'm curious what you did.
Yeah, you did that. I did.
He selected Breeze Hall and went to the next one.
Yeah, basically. But I I.
I'm trying to even. Remember I would I did not have
like set times that I would check them.
I kind of like I was sort of just constantly be checking them
and just blast in. I would just like sort of blast
the picks in and I. There as many as you can.
The the thing I did, the only way it was doable for me is that
in the early rounds I would force myself to like star the
the teams. You know star the the team of
the guy that I selected in the the team that had week 17
correlation. So that like at least had like
that. That like just helping me
understand like the build that I was making and what I was like
looking to do. And you know by the time you get
to like round 910 like that was the only way that I kind of had
any sense of what I what I was trying to build.
Yeah. Yeah.
And that that makes sense. I I was so because I this is all
I I I was doing. I was, I would just set.
I would set alarms on my phone every six hours and every six
hours I would just get on the computer.
And that's the only thing I would say if you're ever doing
volume fantasy football and if you draft and if you make any
picks off of your phone, you're you're destroying your EV.
Every pick you draft on your phone, you're killing EV.
So that's a, you know, if you're ever, if you're drafting any
kind of volume. And things kind of agree with
you, but expand on it. Well, you have access to
everything. There's so much more information
on your computer, right? If if I have any data I have,
it's not going to be on my phone.
Anything I'm looking at. Sure, I I know who everybody I
you have every, every, every week, 17 matchup memorized by
June. But like, you don't need to
memorize. No, obviously not.
Those aren't those aren't really relevant.
But if you use a tool like Spike Week, it gives you all the all
that so much useful information while you're drafting.
You can't use that on your phone.
You don't have access to the kind of data that makes it a
little easier to understand the way your whole portfolio looks
at one team and how you're spreading out certain things.
If you if you're trying to not be too aggressive on certain
players, you know you don't want to.
I don't personally think you should go off the deep end like
a, you know, Liam used to, you know, a spot was maybe going
crazy on certain guys. That's not that's never been my
thought process. Where are you kind of setting
the line for exposures and stuff?
Try to keep it under 25% if you can.
My most own player across everything was Brock Birdie at
about 25% and I think that's probably where you want to be
just because otherwise you're going to, you're putting
yourself at such high risk for not that much more reward,
right? How much more reward is it to
get that, those extra 15 shares of a guy when you're the the
risk that you're taking by adding fifteen more potential
dead teams. If that guy isn't who you need
him to be, it's it's very risky. So you know as you get the laid
around you can be more aggressive obviously, but
anything or anything relatively early you got to be pretty
cautious with I think. So you said you you had drafted
all of these teams. You only get a handful to the
finals. Was there a moment during Week
16, maybe at the start or whatever, where you're like,
shit? Like, I could just take a total
bath this year? Not really.
Week 16, cause in Week 16 I had, I still had 40 teams left.
So it felt OK. Even though you know that the
odds of advancing a good percentage of those teams to
Week 17 is slim, you're still feeling all right because you've
still got 40 rosters. It's hard to sweat 40 individual
rosters, right? So like, you can't really go.
I couldn't. I wasn't really going through
looking at every single team. I would look at some, you know,
see the ones that scored a lot. Week 15, I was like, oh, what's
interesting about these teams? But you can't really sweat it.
So you just got to kind of, for me, I was just like, well, let's
see what happens and hopefully I advance.
I was hoping to advance like 8 to 10.
And so six was a little disappointing.
But you know, I looked at those teams and there were a couple
the the this team, that one was interesting.
I had another one that had Fields and DJ Moore that I
thought was interesting also going into the week that felt
like it might be a little unique, so to speak.
So but this obviously yeah, this one ended up hitting all the
right buttons. Yeah, I just pulled it up here
on screen. First of all, what's the what's
the back story on the username Peter Wiggin?
Yeah, so Peter Wiggin is a minor character in the first book of a
series by a guy named Orson Scott Card.
You've heard of the book, It's called Ender's Game, probably,
if you've no sci-fi at all. So Peter Wiggin is the main
character, Ender, his older brother, and he takes a more
major role in a sequel series that the author wrote.
That's really interesting. So I like the character.
I identified the character a little bit Ender, and if this
guy's Ender in on underdog, he's definitely in a bunch of my my
underdog dress. There's an Ender in there that I
saw pretty regularly, which I enjoyed.
But yeah, he it's I I enjoy the character.
I think he's a a very interesting character, ends up
ruling the world actually, so take that.
Take that. This is, I mean this is a super
fun team. Just you know, just to service
the audio listeners, I'll I'll read it off here.
Lamar Jackson, Jared Goff at running back, Jamir Gibbs.
James Connor, Devon H and Jarek McKinnon.
Tank Bigsby, Chuba Hubbard wide receiver.
CD Lamb. Arsb Godwin Ayuke.
Say Flowers, Rashi Rice, Juan Dale and then the tight end room
which is the funnest one like Tyler Conklin, Isaiah Likely
Cade Otten. I mean, this is a team where
it's like Kate Otton's one spike week, like drug you into the
play offs essentially. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, I need it. I need it.
I definitely would never have made it.
I wouldn't have advanced this team without Kate Otton.
No chance. Kate Otton was massively
important for this team. He was good.
I mean he was when I was doing I pre draft, especially last year,
but even going into post draft I was doing a lot of three tight
last three rounds, 3 tight end, punt, tight end builds.
And K Dotton was a pretty like popular guy for me in that that
last round of those spots. Just because it's going to be
the starting tight end in Tampa and there's no one to take his
job, and if that offense is anywhere near what I was hoping,
it was going to look like, He was going to be an interesting
player. And it turned out all right.
Turned out, signing the quarterback coach who turned
Geno Smith into a Pro Bowler was a pretty good move for Tampa.
Yeah, Casey says. Let's see the draft board.
I was just doing some math on this.
I would say the crazy pick. IUK falls to the 5-6 turn,
right? That's the crazy guy.
I yeah, IUK at six two was the was the kind of mild surprise.
IUK was a guy that and Nick and Donk and Nick especially, but
that was the guy we loved, especially.
I was at Uke this year really big and he was one of my most
home players. Really really heavy on him.
So to get him at six two was pretty ridiculous and felt.
I still can't believe I didn't take him at at 5511 to be
honest. But yeah I took Godwin ahead of
him which is strange for me looking back on it.
But yeah, I uke at six. Two was a huge, huge, huge hit
for us for me on this team, no question actually took a Chan I
think at the in the 9th or 10th, which seems feels early.
But there must have been something going on during this
window that he had risen ahead of Mostert significantly 'cause
it would have been just after the draft.
I think that this that this would have come out.
And you said it was a coincidence that you had Lamar
likely ze a Chan bring back Goff Gibbs ARSBCD lamp bring back.
That was just a coincidence. Total coincidence?
Yeah, it was just random lock that I ended up with two full
week 17 stacks with the bring back on the team.
Never, never would have thought to you know build a team in that
way or thought of make might give some.
It's. Pretty It's pretty fortunate
that all three of those Baltimore players and the Miami
bring back all hit the line up and then also you get Lam in
Almano. Like the way that worked out was
real lucky. Yeah, real luck.
I mean, you never, you could never have predicted that those
two games would have been really interesting in Week 17
especially. You know what?
Especially if you watched the Miami Baltimore game from Week 1
the previous year where there was like 80 total points.
Never would have thought that Miami Baltimore would have been
a fun game to maybe bet on for Week 17.
This year it's. Gonna be mad.
I love it. So what?
What what did you run away with this one?
I I wasn't in the I didn't see a a leaderboard or whatnot.
Like what was the sweat like for this?
It was. It was a sweat, kind of.
So I was done at 4:00. Basically the only guy I had
left was Reishi. And he didn't crack.
No, maybe it wasn't. I think I was done totally at
4:00 so I was sweating. I I was anti sweating Locket and
then I was anti sweating all the running backs in the lake game.
Dylan Jones and Chandler were all anti sweats for me, but they
were the teams behind me were down by about 19 and and the the
guys needed to clear like 10 to even hit their line up.
So it would have taken some pretty big scores in that game,
not unreasonable 30 points. We've seen Aaron Jones on Monday
Night Football have 5 touchdowns before, so anything you know,
it's not out of the realm of possibility that a game like
that happens. But yeah, they needed some
pretty big scores in in those games to have a chance to to go
back. Given the lead that you had, do
you regret rooting against Chandler quite so hard since it
cost us 9K? Yeah, I definitely regret it
completely. I I wish he had scored more.
I wish he had gotten to like 20 ish and that would have probably
gotten you guys there and I would have been really.
Gone. So I.
Figured that had to be your. Fault.
Yeah, well, you know how it is. I can't.
You know I can't control where I
direct how thing, how my, how my love takes, takes.
I mean, I know you. Guys have some type of voodoo
shit with what you really is not going on all this shit?
I won't. I won't.
I won't talk about selling, selling our souls or anything.
You. Know you don't know that ever
happened. Yeah.
Are you worried that you used up all your your go Bills run good
on this team and they're going to lose to Miami on on Sunday?
We used all of our go bills run good 2 1/2 three years ago.
I don't know what's. Happening.
I don't know what's happening anymore.
So no, we didn't win the main event this year.
So because we didn't win the main event, the Bills are going
to win the Super Bowl this year. It's kind of just that's just
how it's gonna be. I mean they're they're for the
record. Their defense is coming together
at the right time and them getting Dayquan Jones back is
should be the scariest thing for for opposing offenses because
with him and Oliver next to each other they're gonna be so
disruptive. I'd pray for two to talk about
Loa this week. That's all I gotta say.
Good luck to him. We'll see what happens.
But we'll see. Calling it there.
Well you guys, I feel like you guys so show so much restraint
because you still only fire, what, a handful of bullets at
the main event? Yeah.
We fired 8 at the main event this year and then Nick and I
each did our own like solo efforts.
But yeah, we don't really, we don't.
Not that we don't feel like we could handle a larger portfolio
of main events, but we don't I think we would enjoy I don't
think firing that kind of firing those kind of events so
aggressively. We think we found a pretty good
foothold where we are in terms of how we work together and how
we're efficiently able to handle this many teams And we do a
pretty, you know we're pretty, we do a pretty good job with it
not this year but most of the time.
So you know, I think I think we found our niche a little bit and
we might be a little more aggressively attacking Bestball
as a team next year. We'll say that might be
something that we look at, I think seems to be something that
might be in the cards. But in terms of managed stuff, I
think we're pretty comfortable building the portfolio the way
we do. And you know, managing the
amount of teams that we manage I think makes a lot of sense for
us. Yeah.
And I mean you also just have to be at peace like when you're
doing that few of teams, I mean even us who ended up having, I
don't know, double digit, you know, high stakes teams, it's
like your draft slot is still largely going to determine like.
Your early. Round exposures like, yeah, you
can be overweight on a seventh round pick, but it's like your
access to the top 24 guys is still wildly dependent on that
slot. Yeah.
And that was the thing that we pretty strongly felt hurt us a
lot this year is that we have a lot of one through 8, one
through 9. We didn't have any real
10/11/12. So we had one share of CD Lamb
and that's a guy that we love like CD is one of those guys
that you just you know he he was on the team that won that you
know last year and we just obviously he was huge to have
this year. But it it just felt, you know,
it felt bad that a lot of the guys that hit and a lot of the
teams that felt very strong were in the late portion of the draft
this year. And we just didn't have.
Because like you say, when you do eight, eight to 10 teams when
your draft slot dictates what happens, and if you were picking
in, then in those early spots you had to dodge in so many
landmines. And you just kind of couldn't in
a lot of ways, 'cause you were just gonna end up hitting one of
them at some point. And it just would would kill a
lot of those teams. Yeah, and like Browns two and
three were sort of set up as as a lot of landmines as well from
that front half of the board. So it was like it's just tough.
I mean, it was just McCaffrey, but even with McCaffrey there
was it was tough to hear. You would, you would have
McCaffrey, but then you would take T Higgins in the second
round and that just wasn't good. And then you know, if now you
have Higgins, now you're looking at maybe getting Burrow, and
that was terrible. So it was just so many things
that could spiral a team that felt great out of control like
we had a Jesse Jefferson team in the league with you guys and
that team had quarterback death after we had Richardson and it
just the team just went off a Cliff once we lost Richardson
really and that was and you lose Jefferson and it's just over.
So those you know those kind of things happen and that's the
that's the the fun and the the like.
The hardest part of these managed teams is that you, no
matter what you do, you're you're so it's so hard to be a
Chad Schroeder, Dave Hubbard, those guys who fire 100 of these
things like that. That to me seems just untenable
for any like unless you're really unless you're hiring a
staff which who knows how they could do things, but unless
you're hiring a staff to do the work, do a lot of the work for
you, it just seems completely unrealistic.
Did you guys see Chad Schroeder's tweet?
The other. Day.
Oh, he's in and out. He's crazy.
Hourly. Hey, well that.
First off, let me just say that hourly.
That hourly. It's ridiculous because that's
about $50,000 in profit. You're telling me that someone
who makes $50,000 a year is making $0.20 an hour?
That's nonsense. That's nonsense.
So I don't know what he's talking about.
Plus it's only, I mean, how many, because it's only for a
part of the year, you know, it's not like he's.
I'll, I'll read the tweet here for the audio listeners, Chad
says I was in for $752,093.00, out for $809,491.00.
What an epic waste of time in physical and mental health about
$0.20 an hour. When I first read the tweet, I
misread it at 75,000 and 80,000. And then I circled back, yeah.
He's, he's insane and he's what he does is, I mean God bless
him, 'cause I would if I, if I had the ability to do that for
sure. That sounds, it's incredible.
But yeah, I mean he made 60 grand this year.
Anyone who makes 60 grand will tell you you're not you're not
making $0.20 an hour and making 60 grand in a year.
You're doing all right. Probably so I don't know.
But. Yeah, no, I mean, I I see both
sides of it. Other people are like, oh man, I
would kill to make 60,000 playing fantasy, but it's also
you can do a lot more with $750,000 in a million other
markets than than tying it up at fantasy football.
I think I I I just did the math. I and we'll say if I did this
completely wrong, it would come to about 220 hours a week for
all 52 weeks to get. Hey we you got to have a little
hyperbole to divide it by. Eight months.
It's not like it's more. Hours than there are in a week,
so I'm going. To be saying May 1st.
Yeah, I don't think anyone's questioning that Chad puts a lot
of time in and that only clearing 60,000 on that volume
is a massive disappointment for him.
I get it. I get it.
Yeah, for sure. Well, yeah.
Any any other kind of macro takeaways, Sean, you had like do
you think, you know, people always talk about like, oh, you
know, the competition is tougher on, on underdog.
I mean, I I've always found some of those puppy rooms to be
extremely tough 'cause you have a lot of the grinders who know
what they're doing who just want to get in big volume there.
Like, how do you think you said you guys might be scaling up
your best ball portfolio? Like how do you think about
contest selection and where you guys are going to be firing?
Contest selection's huge. I I think that I mean the, I'll
tell you this, the puppy room I was in, I looked back on the
draft board at some point and there were, I want to say,
including me, there were seven red badges and then two black
badges in that room. So like you say, there's going
to be highly experienced people. I mean this game is becoming so
popular and it's it's becoming so much more mainstream, but
there's there's grinders everywhere.
I do think contest selection is huge and if you are firing, I
think if you have the wherewithal and the bankroll and
you're able to fire some of the higher stakes, mid to higher
stakes stuff, a small field stuff, that is a place where I
think you can, you know, be kind of somewhat aggressive and find
some interesting spots. But I do think underdog is the
toughest in terms of opposing player.
And just like consistently finding drafts that are making
solid decisions throughout that there's not really a weak spot
in the draft. Whereas on places like drafters
and DraftKings, I noticed you would come across rooms felt
more often where you're looking at some of these picks and these
teams and you're like, oh, you're just doing, you're just
clicking buttons. There's just no rhyme or reason
to any decision that's being made.
And it feels like it happens a little more often on those
sites, but there's give and take there.
Slow drafts on DraftKings are hell because there's no
overnight pause. So if you try to direct.
I couldn't do it. I did it.
I did it.
But I had to set an alarm. I had to literally make every
pick until 11:00 PM, and then I had to set an alarm for 6:00 AM
every day and make sure I got up at 6:00 AM and made every pick
on DraftKings first because I would be almost out of time.
So it was very that was the toughest thing about it.
I mean, I get it. I don't want to do that.
It it it, I do think it's worth it on on a site like DraftKings
where the the lobbies are definitely a little more
interesting and and tend to take a little more unique routes.
I'll say. So yeah, I I I definitely, I I
like drafting. I hope they switched that.
I hope they make their just just give me a 2 hour overnight pause
and I'll be ecstatic. With DraftKings, I I kind of
feel like there's something I don't know exactly like how to
articulate it, but it's like there's something to that like
in a given week, especially in the single elimination weeks,
like it was like that much more important to have Lamar Cooper
for example, because he scores just that extra amount.
And I think there is something on Underdog that I really like
where like you can kind of get there in a in a more like a
variety of ways. And I I think that does reward
team building. So like, yes, DraftKings, the if
the rooms are, there's more dead teams for sure.
But there's also this element of like I think the way teams
advance, it feels like a little bit more like luck is rewarded
or rewarded. Just like player selection is
rewarded, whereas team construction is rewarded a
little more, I think. It is for sure, because the
ceilings are so high on DraftKings with full PPR and
yardage bonuses for all these guys.
The ceilings are so high. So the spike weeks are so much
bigger. Like the Cooper week was just so
much more important on draftings.
And if you didn't have it, you almost weren't advancing because
it was so important to have that in those spots.
So yeah I mean I I had I had a team on draftings my last the
last team in week 16 my last million million team had 182
points and did not advance and it just feels wrong for a team
to score 182 points to go. Nah, Nah, the season fourth by
the way like I'm just like whatever done with that.
But yeah, you just, you had to have those spike weeks and I
think you're right when you say you can build more of these
correlated builds on underdog and be rewarded then you can
DraftKings, it's a little more you kind of got a big hit and
drafters and you do it and you want to have those correlations
still, but you got to bake it a little more.
You got to get a little more lucky I think to really get
there, which is, which is definitely an interesting
element to it. That has to I think you have to
account for when you're in the draft room, which is why all
three of these site, this site and drafters are so different
from each other. And the way you have to approach
drafting, that was the biggest. Obviously if I had one take away
from the way I drafted this year, it's that all three of
those sites are so incredibly different in terms of how you
should probably approach strategy that you really have
to. It's like that's the hardest
thing is like trying to draft all your underdog teams and then
shifting your focus to draftings, then shifting your
focus to drafters and trying to make sure that you're doing the
right things for each of those builds.
It's tough. You know, like drafters, you
don't want a Jamar chase so much.
Maybe on a. In a in a situation like that,
you maybe want you want more of a.
You know you want the safer quote UN quote pick than the,
than the, than the guys with boom bust option.
That was that was gonna kind of what you're saying was gonna be
my next question. Because I think a lot of
people's take away whether wrong or right after this year and
observing who won is they're just gonna say volume, volume,
volume. If I just do what I did last
year but I scale up my volume, then I too will get more teams
in the finals and bink one of these tournaments.
Obviously there's a lot more to it and like one of the things I
think really needs to be explored and studied more is
like legit portfolio maintenance.
So do you have like any advice for people, other takeaways that
like what are the things you need to do in addition to just
upping your volume? Like how do you do that in a
smart way? Reassess everything after the
year. Try to do your best to reassess
what you like, trying to understand the dynamics of what
the league is doing different now.
Is the league trending in a different direction?
Are you, you know, assessing the way these tournaments are
structured? Because all these sites change
their structures every year, and an underdog comes out with six
different structures. If you're not paying attention
to all of that stuff as much as you can in advance in how you
prepare, where you, how you're drafting A-Team and looking at
the advance rates and things of that nature, I I think you're
doing yourself a pretty big disservice.
Like you can't approach Bestball Mania the same way you approach
the Puppy, the same way you approach, you know, the higher
stakes stuff. You have to attack each of these
tournaments in different in different ways based on how they
advance and how they're built and how things, how things move
forward. So I think it's really important
to just kind of pay attention to the the macro and the big
picture of everything and then drill down at each, each
tournament you play, each draft you take, you have to look at
that. OK, this competition works this
way. What does this mean for how I'm
going to attack this draft and how I'm going to attack this
room and then take and then use your your overall strategy that
you have for this year whatever player takes.
You may have however you think the mark is inefficient and go
from there and and build your teams but it's it's it's tough.
Do you have any kind of specific lessons learned for for like
along those lines of tournament selection or just like playing
on the different sites like DraftKings versus drafters
versus underdog or just high stakes versus low stakes?
Because I I agree with you. I think a lot of that, like, I
really kind of want to go back and and look at my DraftKings
play, because I think my underdog play is like way
stronger than my DraftKings play.
But I like, I don't know what, like I need to try to figure out
how to make the DraftKings play stronger.
I don't have like a lot of great ideas right now.
Yeah, I I I actually agree with. I'm the feel the same way about
mine as well. I think my underdog play is the
strongest for me. And then DraftKings drafters I
lost money on drafters. I wasn't.
I understood how it worked, but my I didn't strategize that
well, I don't think for it and I didn't.
I didn't build the teams the way I think I should have, so I I do
think that those are things that I'm going to be looking at in
this short period of what, 3 weeks we have before we start
drafting again. But I those are the things that
I'm going to be looking at to try to figure out, hey, what did
what did I do on DraftKings to only advance 2 total teams to
week 16 when only one team from the Millie to week 16.
What did I like? What was my did I did I make
major strategy mistakes in terms of how the tournament is
structured, how the tournament scored?
Did I did I make like errors there like I did on drafters?
For sure. I was so aggressive on Jamar
Chase. And to me I think on a site on a
season long in a season long situation like that I think it
was a mistake to be super aggressive on Chase the way that
I was over a McCaffrey. I just I think that was a pretty
clear cut error in terms of what I was looking for and I you know
and and but those are the little things that I think I look at is
like OK, well how did the most successful teams do?
What were their builds like? Like look at the teams that won
especially on the site like drafters where it is just one to
17 who had the best team. You can really dive into what
one and why and like what was the how how can you like what
kind of build made the most sense and how these builds are
put builds are put together. It it, it was a little more
enlightening in terms of how I think I'm going to approach that
particular site next year in terms of how I'm going to attack
different spots and you know, be a little, you know, less
aggressive on stacking probably on that site and maybe a little
more trying to tap you know, market inefficiencies and
closing line value I think makes a little more sense at a place
like that interesting. Yeah, well, Sean, oh, Sean just
dropped off here. We you back here.
Sean, we're going to say goodbye to you here in a SEC to bring on
our next guest, but can you hear us?
I can hear you but I my camera has appeared to have drunken
but. Well, real.
Quick as you figure this out, Inder did have a super chat
here, he says. Hey Sean, Congrats on separating
the Go Bills conglomerate. I heard that DOMS bachelor party
is coming up soon and I was just wondering had you thought about
doing something really nice for him?
Oh Gee, I wonder if this is an alt account of someone I know.
Weird that this would. Ever come up it is.
Coming up and I'm sure, I'm sure there will be some very nice
things happening at set event. It's gonna be.
It's gonna be a I was just. Wondering how many people know
that's coming up and would be interested in Dom getting you?
That's that. That's a.
That is a. Really valid point.
There's only. I'm sure there's only a few.
In fact, I'm quite certain there's only a few so, so that's
a pretty limited number. Sean gave up all of his tips for
portfolio portfolio management then had to go and witness
protection. Yeah, yeah.
I'm. I'm.
I'm apparently I've been lost. I don't know what happened to my
webcam, but we're we're gone here.
Oh, oh, there you are. Whatever.
It, Sean, anything else like when you know all these other
content guys, you know they they win, you know you're going to be
launching you know, legendary Bills upside push push.com.
I mean, what's coming here? I don't think content creation
is probably in the future anytime soon.
I like playing the game too much.
I really enjoy the game. It may sound crazy, but I'm
excited. It's true.
But I'm excited to start setting my alarms for 10:00 AM, four PM,
10:00 PM and making a bunch of draft picks throughout the rest
of the summer. I'm I'm pretty amped to take
another swing at this thing, so. Awesome dude.
Well, follow Sean on Twitter at Sean under score.
How do you print it? Is it Stutzman?
Stutzman. Stutzman.
Stutzman, I appreciate you guys. Hopefully we can bump into you
again in Vegas this year at a another event.
We got to get like all of us together.
Leonie was gone this year. The year.
Before us weren't there. So we got to get us all
together. We should we should we do it.
We tried to do a nice dinner right before Mike's show.
Kind of helps put it together. We'll we'll have to we'll we'll
extend the invite. We'll get.
We'll get everybody together this year and get a big group
and I'll go out to dinner maybe the day before, maybe Wednesday
night. Love it.
All right, Sean, thanks for hopping on.
Congrats on taking down the puppy.
It was great chopping it up with you, man.
Thanks for having me guys. Good seeing you all.
Right. Thanks, Sean.
All right, we got our our final guest this evening, Mike Fay
AKADFS Analytics, AKA the champ of the NFC football guys, Best
ball championship. Mike, welcome to the show, man.
Thanks so much for having me. It's great to be on here.
Love the show and been a big fan even though been a lurker lurker
for years. Not not a part of the community,
I guess you you would say, but love the show and and yeah,
thanks for having me. Yeah, so you won.
You got, you won the $30,000 grand prize.
These were the the the monstrosity of best ball drafts
that we were drafting back in the early parts of the summer,
right? Yeah and so the the you know one
of the reasons why I actually replied to that tweet from you
know NFC sent sends them out and did that is because this show
was the reason I even went over to NFC and did it because you
guys I think we're doing a again I I I would say I listen to a
good amount and or watch you know a little bit boomer podcast
listener over here and and so saw saw that they had you know I
was doing a lot of underdog a lot of DraftKings some FFPC and
went over there previously did baseball drafts things like that
on on on NFC and had a chunk of money on there and said I'll
I'll do a basketball draft every year see what it's like really
the the what third second and third round wrap back around
really interesting and happened to get the 12 pick on the first
draft which was the big winner. Yeah.
Did you set your KDS there or did you did you like us just
kind of look into the what the? Hey, I actually think I did only
'cause I was paying attention as the first draft.
I don't know if I did 2 two or three but the but yeah for the
first first one I think I did and I maybe I can look it up on
the league page but I think it was the back end because yeah
the the you know second and third allowed me to get went
almond raw CD and then Keenan. Which?
In this format is nuts too. To be able to get Keenan there
in that format is so nice. Yeah.
Wait. Yeah.
Now go. Ahead I'm I'm just also cracking
up. So I just pulled up Mike's team
here on the screen and you see the great starting line up.
Jord Love and I just forget how many players we dressed.
So many. So many players like you had
Anthony Richardson on this team, Mike Williams, I mean, guys we
haven't thought about in ages, but when you get to draft
whatever 35 guys, you know it can work out.
Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, I I looked at the team
like it. The team honestly literally went
from you know 25th or 30th all the way up really quickly up
until like second, first for like the last couple weeks,
primarily due to Amara raw CD. You know, I had a lot of good
late picks, but I I didn't pay all that much attention to it
till the last, I would say 2 weeks.
And it is, yeah, it was crazy. Yeah.
Mike Keenan Allen. Mike Williams unstacked.
Was not, you know, part of my plan on Underdog or DraftKings
or anything like that. Yeah, somehow worked here.
That's so it it is. It is interesting, like
sweating, like rotisserie style best ball contest.
It's kind of it's kind of hard. Oh, it's so good or bad.
I got 2 little kids at home. We have been sick since, I don't
know, right after Christmas they got something called hand, foot
and mouth. So I was sweating it New Year's
Eve on the couch, face down, paying attention to the TV.
Luckily it wasn't. It could have been a huge sweat
if I didn't for some reason go love Purdy back-to-back in the
12th and 13th. The guy in second had love,
which I think would have gotten me if I didn't have love as
well. And Love overtook Purdy, I
think. And so it wasn't that big of a
sweat. I think one guy had love what
Love Reed Stack that. But it was it's not it's not
close. It's not like moving back and
forth like you're sweating some of the other other line UPS, so.
Well, that's awesome, man. Is this the Is this your biggest
fantasy football score? Probably, yeah.
So I've I've been playing for not obviously not basketball for
that long but I've been playing since you know back in the Star
St. days and stuff like that. And the only reason why my
Twitter handle that I, I don't know how many tweets I've sent
out but it's probably close to none was I the I was going to
back in Star St. days and things like that, you know was when it
was a little bit easier game. I will say, you know was doing
tons of DFS was early on in my career and made this Twitter
handle put in LLC with a buddy of mine.
And you know that's why I fought.
The only reason why I still use it as I follow everyone you know
within DFS and everything like that and and the plan was he was
big into coding and R was a big thing back back in the day which
just seems crazy now and so still had this this Twitter
handle and never obviously the the plan was to make you know a
notable score and and try to maybe start start something like
you guys have been doing but just didn't end up happening
like that but still used it and this was the most I'll say like
somewhat notable score in DFSI actually think my biggest one
thinking about it maybe golf like way back in the day like I
had a the guy won either came in first or second in a big golf
term in back in the day. That's awesome.
And so this team, I mean some people were noticing in the chat
when I had it on screen. You did get our boy Leviska
Chanel, probably like the only team you will find him on that
one. Someone you know a six figure
prize or five figure prize. One someone I don't know if this
could want him anything but I. Was on the team, dude, he gets
the ring. He's like Rojo there or
whatever. Yeah, we get the ring.
But this team also has one. Mr. DeMarcus Robinson Did you
say you were maybe influenced with this selection?
Maybe a little bit by Mr. Gretch over there.
Yeah it was it. It was back in August.
Again I don't can't attend all the the live shows but either
podcast or YouTube YouTube them while working at night and and
yeah it was one of those things that I noticed because I one of
the live shows I was watching was when he went off in that
game and definitely hit my lineup in the in what was that
week week 16 something like that so.
Yeah, well, let's see here. Yeah, Week 6 or, yeah, Week 15
against. Let's see, where is he?
Oh, yeah, Week 16 against New Orleans.
That was the game, 20.2 points. I mean, he's got a great stretch
here, you know, 117. The thesis of the play, really
the. Late.
Season here. I haven't looked at the entire
board, but it may have been between him and Tutu Atwell and
wasn't in on short King Summer there.
Short King Summer did kind of come to an end once the weather
turned. Yeah, like we lost 1022 turned
to dust. I mean, you have a ton of fun
picks. Obviously, you hit on Kyron in
this draft. I mean, you had James Cook, even
Ty Chandler, you had TTJ Hawkinson, Karen, you had tight
end for a long period there. I mean, you hit on a ton of
these late picks. Yeah.
No it was so it it was my first first draft on you know
obviously ADP skews everything so when you're when you're on
here I'm guessing it was my first draft and or it no it
definitely was my first draft on here so yeah you see different
values pop up and and things like that and you know I had
luckily I was lucky enough to. Do well kind of a across the
board that a lot of I would say not great pod luck but you know
as big on Tyron, really big on Ty Ty Chandler, unfortunately
really big on Kiante Ingram as well but the but yeah a lot of
the pics are. Funny.
And I think I mean, white is another.
Another. Yeah, almost one there came on
there. Yeah, I think the funniest one
that like probably my worst player take of the the year was
Mike Evans. Like I was just avoiding him
like the plague like I would. I was really, really big on on
Rashad Rashad White, but for whatever reason did not like the
the QB there and it just is highlighted that I took Kyle
Trask was one of. The nights, yeah.
And it was that period of the summer where Baker was throwing
like a ton of interceptions in practice and it seemed like Tres
wasn't like. I think like I think they were
showing them back-to-back like just missing in like gigantic
targets. I.
Remember. That.
Oh my God, yeah. It looked horrible.
And yeah, I was just like, it's going to be short passes, you
know, short passes, run the ball.
Maybe Kyle Trask comes in there and they just hammer him up the
middle for a couple goal line touchdowns.
But yeah, one of my biggest misses or or stances in all of
best balls slash season long there.
That that is the it's the beautiful thing though about
like this game and specifically with how best ball works where
it's like it does just take that that one team you know and the
and the way things work where if you have that right roster come
together, you can just have the worst.
You know, I mean, like, my most drafted guys were like JSN and
Quentin Johnston and it like, it didn't matter if like, you built
good rosters when you didn't have those guys on the team.
Yeah, yeah. Especially when you have rosters
this, this huge. I mean, it's it's crazy.
Well, when you have DeMarcus Robinson producing like Quinton
Johnson never will in his entire career, it it doesn't matter.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Plus, Rashad White was a really good pick.
So like you, you got on to something good even if you
didn't nail every single player tape.
Yeah, I I had a lot of bad takes, but like I think I had I
would estimate 38% Anthony Richardson across DK and
underdog, which I think was a good take.
I think it was a pretty good take.
Yeah. And the other one was Evan Hall.
I I I was thinking about that the other day and I was the one
could have been yeah, exactly like I I had a ton of ton of
him. Yeah.
And my I actually just checked it the other day my wide
receiver I only on underdog. I only did fifty I think 55 on
big tournament but Jaden Reed I had a 42% so his week 17 I did
not advance a single single single team but the to the
finals so that the the the big score was was killing me man.
Yeah, it it's crazy though, because like when you when you
take that archetype, even the Evan holes, it's like most of
the time they're going to end up like Evan Hole.
The point is, when they turn into Kyron Williams, you you
ship a tournament, you know, like, yeah, that's like why you
keep hunting for those guys. Or even if they turn into Ty
Chandler, like you know, getting a huge Week 15 can be pretty
meaningful even in, you know, whether it's total points or,
you know, especially the playoff week format.
Yeah. I'm my my take on him is, and I
think it showed a little bit towards the end of the year that
Zack Moss wasn't may have not been all that great and I think
Evan Hall could have just came in, you know when not only Zack
Moss was out but Jonathan Taylor was out and and kind of taken
over that for a bit. But yeah.
Well awesome work and it was it was fun seeing that you know you
know the truth is you know we we draft those best ball teams.
You know, I I would kept keep tabs on them.
I know Steph would log in and if she saw something interesting
there our our teams weren't in the hunt.
So I'll, I'll be honest that I wasn't Hawking the the football
guy's best ball leaderboard there.
So to see your tweet pop up and shout out shift chasing, that
was that was a sight for sore eyes.
Yeah. No, I, I, I, I'm 99% sure I
would have never entered it if I wasn't watching you guys.
So really, really appreciate it. And and yeah, it was you know
Sun running at the end and and yeah, it was a great time.
I appreciate you guys actually. So I was overlay chasing.
Ended up doing way more than I expected.
I did 12 on FFPC. The is it football guys?
Yeah. Or the fantasy pros now.
Or whatever it's. Called fantasy.
Yeah. Fantasy Pros championship and
and I actually got 7 of the Sprint.
None of them did anything and won four.
So it's like even even before that you know got got a lot you
know was plus he plus EV going into the Sprint slash underdog
stuff. I think I've placed 110th in the
regular season on. That's awesome.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, awesome work.
Yeah. Don't don't be a stranger around
here at DFS Analytics. Yeah, you slid.
I was messaging you, 'cause I, like, wanted to confirm that
that was you who had won that thing.
And you're like, Oh yeah, well, maybe I could come on sometime.
I was like, you want to come on in like 5 hours?
Yeah. You were down.
I mean, especially when you said 9:15.
You know, bedtime, that's bedtime's over.
It's all all good. So no, I I love the love the
show. I I definitely listen to not
like this, but all the all the other content content that you
guys do it's it's really great. So I appreciate it and was
definitely a large part of the successful year.
Well, just know man, next year we're going to remember to set
our KDS and we are going to beat you.
In that in that. Best ball contest?
Probably. Neither of those statements are
true. Yeah, we won't remember and we
we also won't be able. To wait, didn't you guys?
I, I I was actually paying attention to the beginning of
the show. Didn't you guys place like 7th
in prime time? Isn't that kind of?
Piece. Yeah.
Yeah, we. Did well once once we got to the
prime times, our Co managers, you know, dutifully reminded us.
They set the KDS, Yeah. Then we then we argued with them
about what they said. That's how that's how we like.
Guys, All right, Mike, I'm going to let you go.
We're going to do a wrap up with a little roundup I collected
from the discord here of some other wins.
I wanted to shout some people out, but thank you again for for
swinging by. Not a problem.
Thanks so much guys all. Right.
We'll see you, Mike. Thanks.
Yeah, I just wanted to pull this up here because we had.
I asked people in the Ship Chasing Discord to share some of
their wins. Shout out some people.
Here we have our guy. Sacrilegious.
I'm not sure which contest this was on.
DraftKings, $5000 hit. Finishing in 15th here.
Our guy. Shit.
Yeah. The Achievers who just went on
the Rotoviz podcast. I heard Colum won't say shit.
Yeah, the Achievers when he's on there get censored.
Yeah. What did he say?
Just, yeah, The Achievers. I think I will.
I will put some respect on your name.
Third of the ship. He had the achievers now that he
shipped. Yeah.
Oh, I like that ship. Yeah, the Achievers. 12 1/2 K he
calls it the Achievers. The Irish are cruise obviously.
We already got shot in here. Shout out to Chipsy who was in
that same puppy contest with Mr. Peter Wiggin.
Finished in fourth year for 20K. Good job chipsy man.
We got to shout out this guy. I'm blanking on his actual name,
money, printer go. I don't know if you guys saw
this. He finished first in the
consolation bracket for FFPC and he would have won the main
event. The guy who won, the main DM,
me, said he watches some stealing bananas or listens to
some bananas. So yeah, that was fun, but.
Yeah, that's chip chasing or. Our guy Texas, who we did a who
we did a main event draft with got fifth in the Chihuahua too.
Congratulations to for off suit finished 10th in the puppy.
And then JB Phil starting to kind of you know my requirements
for what you could post top 500 best Volvadia regular season.
I guess we'll allow it. JB Congratulations back Nova
third in the Chihuahua but Superflex and 7th in the FFPC
Best ball for 9 K Our guy Shorty got 93rd in the FFPC main event.
Chung, Our guy Chung here got third.
I believe in the best ball tournament play offs the the
best ball that's on FFPC, so shout out to the ship chasers
for for some nice scores there. That's great.
I had two, so my team with Sean fell way off.
But I had two top 30 FFPC main event teams which is pretty
cool. I only I had my highest ever was
19th way back in 2020. I had never had any other in the
top like 50, so two. The top 30 was pretty cool.
One was silver, one was Sean. Yeah, that is the Sean, one of
our dynasty. League is that.
Can we? Yeah, Sean talks about that all
the time, man. He loves you guys, this team.
Our team is pretty filthy. Yes, it was very fun to see all
of the success everyone had and I I got a feeling 2024 is going
to be even bigger and better as we all kind of divide and
conquer these contests here. But yeah, it was a it was a
blast of a year. It felt good just to have a a
winning high stakes year for us. We took a bath there multiple
years in a row, so it was fun to to get on top this year.
Very. Yeah, so we we pretty much
firmed up our programming schedule for next week.
Gretch, first of all, you are heading when is the national
championship game? Monday.
Night it's Monday so now I'm flying to Houston Sunday morning
back Tuesday, shout out Alaska Airlines giving us some some
direct flights down to Houston from Seattle at affordable
rates. You got all these other airlines
like price gouging for the for the flights, but Alaska Airlines
is a sponsor of UW and and like listed some legit affordable
stuff and good itineraries and it was like thank you, like I
hadn't bought my flight until they won.
I had a ticket, I hadn't bought my flight yet.
I bought it the morning after their semi final win 'cause they
part of why I didn't buy it is people were buying all these
refundable flights that prices were already going through the
roof and then there was rumors that they would add more
flights. So Alaska Airlines came up
clutch, brought, gave us some more flights.
I'm flying Sunday, coming back Tuesday.
I'll miss the first show of the week, but then we got stuff
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, next week.
That'll be a blast. Yeah, so those are all booked.
So on Monday we'll all sweat the national championship game.
I've already tailed Gretch the first time he told me to bet on
Washington Huskies at hit. Second time, I said I was
telling you again, even though you weren't quite as forceful of
like you should make this bet. And I said I don't care.
That hit didn't even get your permission already.
Bet the Huskies again for the national championship.
We just keep rolling it. On Oh, I mean, look.
How you feeling? I'm a little bit more nervous,
honestly. I so I told you about Texas.
We knew, we know Steve Sarkisian, their head coach,
really well. He coached at UW for several
years. We also kept hearing, I didn't
know Texas team very intimately, but we kept hearing how they
have a really good interior defensive line.
You can't run on them. But their secondary was a
problem. And anyone who watched that game
knows all the deep passing that Washington wanted to do.
Like every time they went down field, there was money.
Like it was. That's what we do well.
And so hearing that like you can't run on Texas, but their
secondary's a problem. That's why I was telling you
guys. I was like kind of excited to
see like what UW can do down field.
Michigan has apparently the second best pass defense in the
nation. So a little bit of a different
challenge on defense, definitely a little bit concerned about
that. But I mean we got really good
receivers. We got Pennex is a really
accurate quarterback. We still have like a good
scheme. We've got to be the best passing
offense they've faced all year. I mean, it's going to be
strength on strength. So it's just, yeah, I mean, I
don't, I don't feel like it's as perfect of a match up, but it's
it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun.
I'm definitely excited they're in the fucking national
championship. It's pretty sweet.
It's gonna be a blast. So everyone, TuneIn, root on the
Huskies on Monday and then this is our programming schedule.
So Tuesday we'll have a show, the Boomer opto reveal with
Hassan and Blair. I hope Hassan is in the lab
right now. On Wednesday, the three of us
here will be getting together. Pat will be revealing a a first
look at the ownership projections for the FFPC
contest. Don't even.
Have the playoff team solidified?
I've already done the first run. Yeah, the This is how you know
he's still hungry out there. Fucking love this contest.
I like literally was I I need to draft so many playoff basketball
teams. And I I did a playoff basketball
pod earlier in the week and afterwards we were just like
kind of just talking through like who might be chalk and he
got the wheels turning. And I was like, I need to go in
the lab and get this first run going because it's so fun.
And I think this year's going to be really, really interesting
with with Lamar, I think kind of really driving things and at the
ownership, at the quarterback ownership in a way we we don't
typically see in this contest. We see chalk condensed in this
contest in such a huge way, but not usually at quarterback in a
huge way and I think. Well, because the here we're
going to go down, we're going to get ahead of ourselves.
But the, like the Lamar CMC pairing just fits together so
well. Yes.
Yeah, 'cause imagine going into the Super Bowl with Purdy
Flowers instead of Lamar CMC. And it's just going to be like
Rich. I don't want that.
No, I want the Lamar one. I want the Lamar one when I go
to the Super. Bowl that was your old fret
hands with all of your friends. True, true.
But I think there's going to be a lot of Lamar CMC teams.
So yeah, it's. It's fun, but so the question
is, can you get there with the with the Zay debo or something
Like what? Is there another quarterback
that doesn't play in the? Season I think Al.
I think Al. I actually think the contest
will be more interesting if Sean is Sean has his heart broken and
the Bills don't make the playoffs you know which is
obviously unlikely but it could still happen and if there's
that's going to force people to Mahomes and hurts and I don't
think people really want to go there.
So you're just at that point, I think you would just see massive
Lamar Chalk. You're still going to see a lot
of Lamar Chalk, but I think I think Allen offers a like a
fairly enticing secondary option because you'll get four games.
Yeah, and we see that every year, like the sexiest four-game
quarterback always catches a decent amount.
Yeah, yeah. And you don't.
You don't really want to play Diggs, right?
You. James Cook's fine, so I think
Allen will have plenty, but that then forces you to like, pick a
Raven. That's not Lamar.
So I I still think people will go to Lamar a lot more than.
That, yeah, it's not gonna, yeah, wow.
It's not gonna be like it's not gonna be Dak because Liam is
just so dominant in that, obviously.
I talked to Jacob Sanderson earlier today.
You're just like talking not as a part of the podcast, but he
was just saying like he's like, I I don't see why Liam won't be
90% owned. And I was like, I I don't either
at 88%, he suggested. Totally polar to Rudd for 202
TDs this weekend. That's what we need for the Uber
opto. Yeah, yeah.
I think, I really think there's going to be some huge chalk this
year just because it's like if you get off of, there's certain
teams that's like, yeah, I would like to get off this, but then
what do I do? Who do I pick?
But I picked them just to lose the CD.
Like hoax. No, you you have to just pick
against the Cowboys. Yeah, so we will.
We will be unpacking all of that on Wednesday.
It flows into each other well, you get the Boomer opto, then we
get the full picture with the ownership on Wednesday.
With the three of us on Thursday, we're going to have a
bit of a stat chasing hybrid crossover.
We'll be talking some FFPC playoff, but we're going to dive
into everything. We're going to do some underdog
playoff contests because we'll of course have sacrilegious with
us and I think we might even do one of the NFC playoff ones.
We haven't done a lot of content around that.
I know like Leonie and Davis over the years have played in
that a good bit, so we might try to tackle one of those as well.
And then the Friday grand finale, of course with Leonie,
we got to see with Dank with his NBA schedule, if he can make it
work, but we will have kind of our final drunken build show
there with those guys. It's going to be a great week.
I honestly cannot wait. Yep, so stay tuned for those
shows next week. And then anything else for you
guys between now and then other than Gretch getting some tea
resting up for a big weekend? Legendary upside.
We got our dynamic rankings tool.
I'll just shout that out one more time.
I think it's it's pretty, pretty fun to draft with and we using
it a bunch myself as I fire a bunch of these these tournament
teams on 100 Dog before turning my attention to the FFPC next
week. Yep, Gretch, Anything else for
you? Not a ton, no.
I'm so focused on the Huskies. I'll definitely do a a season
kind of recap right up at some point, but it's going to be
pushed back a little bit because I'm doing some traveling and and
more focused on some other stuff right now.
Yeah, I was. I was planning to do a lot of
underdog playoff drafts this week and cash game week has been
pretty consuming so. Yeah, how's?
Are you able to get more on the site?
Did you get I've? Got it.
I've got it. Free, yes.
And I just accepted a $1000 head to head from the BBM champ.
I mean so. Amazing.
I love. I love it.
Hey, I mean, maybe just go partying this weekend.
Maybe do some late DJ sets. Don't really worry about your
cash shell. Well, I should.
I should mention I'm going to be talking with Amin tomorrow on
the legendary Upside podcast. OK.
Yeah, yeah, in order. In order we get to interview
him. In order of who won, must who
won first. So Liam Liam took care of the
first interview. I'm doing the 2nd.
That that reminds me what what final story here, Underneath
here, I'm wearing my chasing Corrine shirt.
I I grabbed it out today because I was like, you know, this is
like one of the last few moments.
You know, the shirts really no longer relevant.
We're all chasing a mean now. But April, Pat April was getting
an absolute kick out of this shirt tonight.
And she has like this really like.
Precise attention to detail, like in books, she like, doesn't
gravitate to the big thing. She's always like, oh, there's
the little duck or the little thing.
And she just kept pointing at your face and cracking up
tonight. And I would like bring her
closer and she's like, I think she just thought the head like
on the ship was so funny it. Is funny.
And I have a funny experiment. That's awesome.
Yeah, that's great. All right, guys.
We appreciate you. Congratulations again to
everyone on the great years. We will see you around and the
next time you guys will see us on this channel Tuesday for the
Boomer Opto show with Son and Blair.
Enjoy your week 18. Send me a.