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Quarterback prices are 
cratering. 

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What does it mean for you and 
your family? 

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It's a teepee. 
Chasing Pat, fryer homos. 

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I need a hand job. 
Fix your side with your mom. 

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Our Alpha play. 
Chase, are you? 

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Welcome to ADP, chasing Sam 
Sherman, not able to make it 

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this week, but we got Ben Gretch
returning to the show guys. 

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How's it going? 
Oh, I should probably make you 

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guys give you a little bit more 
space. 

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Here is a great man. 
Wins two million dollars, 

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uploading the audio for a 
podcast and everyone else in the

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smaller video just so everyone 
can really see how important he 

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really. 
Yeah. 

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Also at this point, we will just
do this. 

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Are you guys doing today? 
Because I was gonna retweet but 

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I can't even find it. 
I didn't tweet it out. 

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I don't know. 
I thought it might be on the 

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ship. 
She look, we don't even have 

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this to it out, I don't know, 
it's here. 

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No, no one, no one knows were 
alive, and we've done such a 

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good job, you know, being 
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everyone everyone knows it's on 
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So, in other words, audio 
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better job of describing. 
What's on the chart? 

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Because most of you are probably
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in an audio format, I would 
imagine that we're really up. 

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The service, the other listeners
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Watchers, YouTube, Replay 
Watchers, we really appreciate. 

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You got out, shout out, the 
replay Watchers, the backbone of

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the, the Creator gig economy. 
We do have some exciting 

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developments in on the, on the 
ATP. 

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Chasing front one, we have like 
a real Trend to talk about here 

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with the quarterbacks declining 
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full round from where they were 
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Draft best ball period but we 
also have been Gretch traveling 

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to Oregon drafting a ton of 
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Got some, got some draft reps 
under his belt, and still 

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working their way under his belt
right now, he's on the clock and

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like five weeks. 
Yeah, I'm before I left, I was 

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talking, you know, with you and 
Pete you're telling me like, I 

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was like, oh yeah, just wish. 
There was a puppy. 

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I could get in a bunch of these 
like cheap ones. 

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Get some reps and you're like, 
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Got to get like the chow chow. 
You're like telling me all these

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like higher price ones that I 
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I was like nah dude I'm gonna 
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It is it shocked me how quickly 
might be generous he kicked it 

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like having access to doing this
on my own it was like really 

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fast. 
I was like, dude I can see why 

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everyone loves other dogs so 
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of it. 
Like, shout out to them 

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obviously, but I haven't had a 
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phone myself and I mean it was 
bad. 

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It was like immediately. 
Like I want to do this 

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constantly. 
I'm Having withdrawals like I 

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last night. 
I was so mad After I filled out,

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I got through an up to date on 
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slows, I wanted to do a fast 
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fast draft right now I'm just 
sitting around and I can't do it

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right now and it's really 
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time. 
I just kind of chilling to yeah.

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The bed. 
That's so nice. 

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You have that? 
That is like it is. 

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That's what I do. 
Most of mine is like that hour 

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before bed. 
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When you're just kind of hanging
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Killing time. 
Like that's that's the eye and 

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you want to do one. 
You're like I'm actually like I 

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feel relaxed, I feel chill. 
Like I just want to just want to

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do one draft because there's 
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sometimes I'm like I'm a bang 
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All right now I believe that's 
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and it's all just on the phone. 
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five tabling? 
What are you, what are you 

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looking at? 
Most of the time are you in a 

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draft or you back to the No? 
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So the move is the move is very 
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You enter. 
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BBM for puppies or for poodles 
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they have going on at the time 
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good mix of like you want to 
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getting whatever the market is 
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still be hammering, the snapshot
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The issue is if you're doing one
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time, it's like I don't know - 
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and a puppy. 
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a negative return on your time. 
So you darling. 

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I that's like Detailing that 
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The lower snake step. 
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the Chow Chows like that. 
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just stay on this screen and you
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But the key is the thing that 
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This is like this is like how 
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Like always knowing what the app
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If he lets the clock go to zero.
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absolute lightning fingers with 
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I have talked about this where 
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McCaffrey round one so I get it 
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Every 49er, I got to immediately
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got to be doing it fast because 
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you're doing five tables, where 
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time, and you don't have time to
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what do I have on this team? 
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I need you. 
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gotta have every correlating 
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which I think is probably the 
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probably bad at multi-tabling is
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Ting, a bunch of value Hound 
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Like if you're doing five tables
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you're gonna be like, oh 
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ATP. 
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And then you're like, shit, I 
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My other players like why I also
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have issues with with keeping my
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like on this team like I my 
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need I need to be like looking 
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range on this team and then I go
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yeah. 
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quarterback in the strands. 
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team. 
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to on what I'm doing 
multi-tabling is I default to 

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either Elite quarterback or 
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real quick. 
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on this team to tighten so I 
just ignore I'm not taking other

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tight end until the last round, 
right? 

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Or I have Josh Allen on this 
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I don't need to be taking Kirk 
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They don't need to be taking 
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Yeah, that makes sense. 
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labeling. 
What you were saying about the 

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like sort of acquiring off 
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Like that's what that was my 
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Where I write, when we got down 
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were eating dinner because I was
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then I was pretty tired from the
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Got the bed got up early, to 
make sure like, I love it. 

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I love the tweets of people 
screenshotting. 

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Yeah, for am dress with you and 
though, he wasn't kidding. 

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I literally dropped. 
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And then as they were waking up,
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then you were like sleeping. 
You get to get you. 

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Yeah, that's exactly. 
That's exactly right. 

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And then my wife finally got 
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they're like I will meet you 
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beach and I was like, all right,
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and get going, but I was like, 
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So I did like three first thing 
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I mean, we're only there one 
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was saying. 
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I'm back home, I'm like this. 
I want to do it just a chill 

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draft. 
Like what? 

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I'm not like I want to draft 
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the window I have. 
Have to draft and yeah, I have 

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to make myself dry 100%. 
Yeah, well, so you're seeing 

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some of this. 
So let's pull up the charts here

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because We are seeing actually, 
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the fallers first because this 
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here where we are seeing. 
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Jalen hurd's falling, Kyler 
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Feels like he's catching a 
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Marie thing makes sense because 
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Hopkins, just makes it seem much
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they're just punting on the ear 
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he won't play. 
That's a great Point. 

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That's a great Point. 
Jimmy Garoppolo following, with 

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his injury thing, we'll talk 
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Borough the other. 
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that like Burrows falling. 
I've talked about this a few 

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different times Borough falling.
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fourth round makes, if you draft
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that odds of getting Borough are
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to be. 
I just got 40 in a slow, 27 

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spots behind ATP unstacked. 
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I see him last into the fifth 
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decent amount of frequency. 
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I got him at the 67 term. 
Don't literally twenty seven 

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spots behind ATP. 
Government 612 701, whatever. 

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Wow, those are. 
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I guess I'm taking him so so I 
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that honestly. 
Like it feels good in the moment

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but like you get that team to 
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like? 
I know. 

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Do you even feel? 
Do you even feel good about told

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myself? 
I'm walking. 

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I'm locking myself into I look 
at what? 

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Boyd's ATP. 
He's in between my next turn and

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the Heathen turn. 
Boyd, Boyd. 

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A nerve are in such a dead spot 
of the draft that you can reach 

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15 spots on that. 
Yeah, you can. 

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I do what I do, I told myself, 
I'm locking myself in to void 

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15, spots ahead of ATP. 
In my next, in my next window, 

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and which saw a parade crane 
probably wakes up about once a 

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week and cold sweats, 
remembering that Tyler Boyd had 

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11 points after the first draft 
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Bengals game when When Boyd was 
chasing of data, we have, we 

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almost lived. 
We almost lived out the Tyler 

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Boyd, chasing down the winter. 
It's true. 

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It's true. 
I like we still good enough and 

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we talked about, I mean if 
something were to happen to 

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either Chase or Higgins and they
missed, I actually think I don't

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think that's real. 
I think we've seen Jason 

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Higgins, both get banged up. 
And and this time before tends 

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to flow to the other one of 
Jason Higgins because they're so

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it's so good because Boyd is 
Boyd is just who he is. 

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Yeah, he's what? 
I still think boy would have the

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weekly Spike week potential. 
The I think he's got, but he 

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does like, week regard. 
He does is what I'm saying, it 

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can just missing. 
Boyd can have can be the stack 

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in a given week. 
But, yeah, really. 

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Honestly, you're in this 
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You just described in which you 
have Justin Jefferson. 

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You're basically hoping your 
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Pick doesn't count. 
You're honestly, because I would

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say if we, you know, if we had 
access to this data from 

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Underdog, which we don't, I 
would guess the most common wide

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receiver quarterback pairing in 
the whole of Vespa Mania, for 

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will be Justin Jefferson and 
Kirk Cousins and their ceiling 

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weeks are one-to-one correlated.
You are never your ever, you are

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never in a billion years. 
Getting a 32 point Kirk Cousins 

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game in which Justin Jefferson 
gets like 10, it's, it is, it is

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like universe is possible 
Jefferson. 

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I have 30 points and cousins 
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Yeah, that's the thing. 
That's you don't need cousins 

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like if you have Jefferson and 
Burr. 

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Oh yeah, I'm just happy that all
burrow can smash cousins in. 

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Jefferson can still go off, I 
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Baroque pearls or open run for a
touchdown throw wonderer. 

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Throw one to Trent Taylor and 
throw one to tell her boy or 

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whatever. 
Sure. 

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But I think one reads, the only 
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did have this whole 
deliberation. 

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Like am I just screwing my team 
even though it's such great ATP 

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but I think you, I think you do 
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that, like, we don't have any 
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week 17. 
Anyways, but it's certainly not 

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a moved on to optimize for week 
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I know this is too late, but I'm
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combination of players. 
I think if you had mixing it 

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would make it more enticing 
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You know, that's one re very 
realistic path to like you know 

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Burrell likes to check down 
mix-ins, 5 touchdown game, I 

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think Borough had 32 and that 
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they can get there together but 
the other things are seeing 

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thing about this team is so is 
Jefferson and I went Ramon Ray 

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briefs two, three, turn which I 
I've gotten an inordinate amount

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of like that. 
So did you take, did you take 

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briefs over? 
Derrick Henry Problem, I take 

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briefs over. 
Derrick Henry, I've taken 

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raimondo. 
I've gone Jefferson or laundry 

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Brew. 
Some like three different teams 

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out of, you know, if only 30 so 
far, but I feel ya. 

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We generally like young players 
who Flash the lead-up said 

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rookie season. 
Yeah. 

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Derrick Henry Henry. 
Derrick Henry is healthier than 

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Bruce all this yeah. 
He's also 29 years old and we're

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playing for week 17, I didn't 
turn em over Henry. 

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Henry went, you're not first but
I still wouldn't you're not 

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playing for week 17. 
If you're fading. 

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Derrick Henry dude, let me tell 
you the rest. 

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What about Henry? 
Sam had a great, same had a 

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great tweet the other day. 
He's not here, he's not here to 

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represent himself, but he was 
like, yeah, just been really 

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scooping up a lot of time. 
Chase beers, do you know, he 

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plays the Houston Texans 17, the
fields was still there. 

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Patent and Pete over on ship, 
chasing off season. 

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If I was drawn from our team's, 
I probably would be paying these

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iron prices for the three 
quarterbacks. 

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I didn't take either them. 
I took Kenneth Walker though so 

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I ended up with Ramon tree 
briefs and Kenneth Walker in my 

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first five picks Godwin at that 
turn as well. 

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So I only had Jefferson Godwin 
and so then to take Borough at 

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67, also meant that I only have 
three receivers through seven 

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rounds. 
I took John donne's and with him

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but that's part of why I think 
the borough like if but Boyd is 

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going to be more important to 
this roster because You need 

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Boyd anyway, Seaver. 
You like really need a boy type.

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Yeah, it's a, it's a kind of a 
hyper fragile running back 

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build, but now I have like, my 
starting lineup is going to be 

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really good the structure and 
the depth of the team's not 

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going to be particularly good, 
but if the running backs are 

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healthy and Buro is the guy like
the stud you're going to need to

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hammer wide receivers through 
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rounds. 
But that's okay because it's a 

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hyper. 
Fragile teams, you're not going 

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to drive them running backs in 
that kind of running back, you 

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know, sweet spot anyway. 
So and this is why I thought 

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adding burrow to this roster 
made even more sense because I 

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feel like it does like increase 
the weekly ceiling at a bunch of

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spots but like the the lack of 
correlation. 

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I mean what are the chased after
due to the chase drafter have a 

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homes. 
There he took my homes in a 

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third, some home. 
Yeah, I didn't take me home to 

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the turn. 
He got him at 3:02. 

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And so that's why I had to go 
back to the trouble which I 

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love. 
I love. 

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I mean, I don't love it now. 
Like, your your yeah, you, I 

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mean, he locked himself out of 
six round. 

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Bur 06 from Grover's third on 
Mahomes, the whole not going to 

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score so many more. 
E points than Borough. 

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Yeah but if you have Chase I 
mean 611 Borough. 

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I mean, obvi Pro crushes. 
The road obviously you can't 

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That's the that's the rumor on 
the street right now is the 

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Jets. 
So 10-minute here says you can't

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Bank on six round, bro. 
One thing I'll say anything past

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503 is getting greedy. 
Yeah, it's probably true. 

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If you are gonna take Borough, 
you probably would have taken 

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him at 5:03 anyway, that's fair.
I was gonna switch on which is 

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still, which is still, well, I 
guess it depends on the 

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construction or team because 
some of those guys are taking it

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503. 
If your draft breaks the wrong 

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way, it could be like, You take 
a jury duty, you know what just 

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like, I don't know. 
Give me. 

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Give me the, give me them. 
A home side of that to be to. 

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I think, I actually do think 
it's 611. 

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I would have been tempted to 
take burrow because even as a 

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Mahomes drafter because you're 
like this probably doesn't work 

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but my Advance rate. 
Well it's the answer steamed 

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broccoli. 
It's the it's the thing we 

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always say which is that, you 
know, Elite or unique combos, 

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like you can pretty much justify
anything. 

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If you're like, well, it's a 
unique combo to get through. 

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Through and a huge ATP value to 
get. 

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Birth are 100% why. 
So so Alan hurts Kyler Fields 

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Borough, even hurt sometimes 
Falls, really? 

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I mean, crane, we've been saying
this since February like this 

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just was never long-term. 
This was never going to hold 

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this to where these guys are 
going now seems about right? 

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You know, I think I think I 
think all still very expensive. 

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I mean I I still think there's a
lot of good running at once in 

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the third round. 
Yeah. 

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But it's like there is a pretty 
severe tear break on just 

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because of the way fantasy 
football works. 

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Now we're there so few like very
elite players like I think 

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probably the last Elite player 
in fantasy football is probably 

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Tony Pollard who goes at 21. 
No Bruce Hall. 

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Ramon Ray Stevenson are, and I 
mean, there is a simple. 

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It's always like not going to be
playing the first month of the 

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season. 
I think that's that overly 

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pessimistic. 
There's no real. 

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Okay, explain explain, explain 
this to me, explain explain like

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I'm five briefs all is running 
back 11 and ATP Javonte is 

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running back 29, Jim wanted a 
multi-link meant tear the team 

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is talking. 
It's talking openly about him 

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being back like a little bit 
later than needing to have. 

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Some igp Ryan is that a big role
too stuffy? 

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It is, it is it just the perine 
signing the plants like matters 

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as it's a multi ligament tear. 
It's much, much, more at risk of

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becoming a Dobbin situation than
Bruce. 

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All we saw was an ACL tear. 
We're both really poor. 

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Last year, I'll add this that, 
that Javonte actually has this 

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the pr thing matters. 
He actually has a backup, that 

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was good last year and is it 
probably a better running back 

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than anything? 
The Jets have. 

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Unless I've been a Candice 
really good immediately as a 

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fifth-round pick and know what I
recant, the the pier, anything 

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just matters. 
Yeah, the other thing is, I 

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would also being Aaron Rodgers 
running back has historically 

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been very good. 
He throws to the running backs a

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lot, they score a lot of 
touchdowns, I think. 

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And what are you getting at in 
terms of a major Dylan last 

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year, what's good for our Jones 
face? 

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Balls are and Jones, not get 
both had not torn, their ACL. 

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I would say that Javonte 
Williams would be like he don't 

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work together on value. 
I was going to say he's Kenneth 

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Walker even okay, if you, if 
you're more worried about the 

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pier, I would be less worried 
about the pier on stuff. 

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If he was healthy, I think he 
would just perine of totally 

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healthy. 
Z. 

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But sure you could even say he's
balls. 

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More to the floor. 
I think people are just 

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pessimistic about Denver, right?
Like that. 

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It's just like a very weird. 
You have. 

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I mean, I'm pretty optimistic in
terms of what they cost but I 

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could totally see it, being it 
as the Denver, situate one of 

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the weirdest teams in the NFL 
right now. 

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Right? 
But for me, I mean it's what you

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that Loki might be tanking. 
Like we're opening talking about

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how Arizona my tank in this and 
that Peyton has not said, a lot 

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of things that have made me 
believe that he thinks Russ's 

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the long-term future. 
We talked about the contract 

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situation were like 25 million 
more dollars, get guaranteed if 

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he's on the roster and like the 
fifth League day of 2024. 

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So after this, season is 2024 
salaries already guaranteed. 

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So people who are just looking 
at over the Capitol and all they

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have to keep the 24 they don't 
and they won't if they don't 

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want to guarantee 25 million of 
20, 25 money. 

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So this year they have to make 
their decision or also tied 

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again. 
Correct. 

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What do you? 
What do you think about my take 

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on Russ? 
That Drew Brees at the end? 

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Had nothing left to give yet. 
He had a peashooter but Sean 

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Payton was still getting 11 
possums out of him. 

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That's possible. 
But I also like a deer. 

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It's gonna take to me. 
Yeah, yeah, no, honestly, right.

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There's a scenario where he's 
like, I so don't want to be tied

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to rust. 
Ooh, 2025 because I don't think 

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chair three years from now wants
to still be coaching, Russ from 

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everything. 
He said that he's gonna almost 

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tank, Russ like make him suck so
that he can go to Jared's did 

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of, or whatever, and cut Rusk of
heavy crate crate had crane had 

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the best take, which is that 
Russia seems like completely 

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intolerable. 
Like to just to just be like 

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very grounded just getting just 
getting him out of the building,

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basically, because I think also,
you hire a CEO style coach, like

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Peyton. 
Peyton is like he's been around 

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the NFL for a super 
well-respected. 

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That's a guy Nathaniel Hackett 
was never gonna win. 

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Like Nathaniel Hackett was never
going to win the battle 

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personality between, you know, 
him and Russ where Sean Payton, 

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Sean Payton could win the Battle
of Personality between the two 

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right where it's like, this is 
my team. 

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This is what we're doing Russ, I
will send you home. 

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If you are not with the program 
I don't even think he could win 

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and I think he's like the heavy.
Favorite to win it right. 

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Like Russ I think was so 
disliked by the end of last 

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season they had a defensive 
tackle chewing him out on the 

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side. 
Yeah that was no one caring you 

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have ever seen a defensive 
tackle, two out of nine million 

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nine figure quarterback contract
type type of player. 

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Like that was insane. 
Shelby hair is just yelling at 

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him and no one's coming to the 
quarterbacks defense. 

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Everyone's like, I just go 
ahead. 

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We don't even like for us like, 
I mean, I already lost my just 

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been epic epic derailment of the
point that I was trying to make,

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which is there. 
Devante, William and Bruce Hall.

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Don't have the same. 
Like, high-end pay off, based on

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what we saw from them. 
So far in their careers, the 

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briefs Hall was showing the 
potential to be like the one who

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bring types has that or we never
got that from from Williams in 

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terms of workload, in terms of 
efficiency, in terms of 

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Versatility, we just haven't 
seen that ceiling it from 

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Williams which also was a 
tangent of Davis's point that 

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there wasn't a lot of elite 
talented. 

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I was trying to rope reason. 
Yeah that way. 

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A double derailment. 
We are writing. 

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I think what was the quarterback
about quarterback? 

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Because I think I've to me to me
why The Show Goes, three hours 

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often, it goes so long. 
It is such a long program. 

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I think all of Devon te T, Henry
Jacobs worm, Andre Metcalf yada 

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yada so on and so forth. 
I think that's the tier break. 

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So I think in that two-year for 
me, I don't really get wear 

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makeup goes where it goes. 
You think he should go earlier. 

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Later later. 
Yeah, I mean I think you're I 

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think you're probably. 
It's just like I don't know to 

446
00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:49,900
me and if I close my eyes I'm 
like it's a week 17 against the 

447
00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:53,000
Steelers DK Metcalfe has 180 
yards and four touchdowns 

448
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,600
against the steel guys actually 
Spike for bigger weeks. 

449
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,600
Metcalf lock, it lock. 
It is like the best. 

450
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,000
He's like the best value on the 
board is a great value. 

451
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:06,700
Yeah but like but anyway point 
being I see the quarterback 

452
00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:09,300
settling after that range. 
But I do get taking the 

453
00:23:09,308 --> 00:23:12,600
quarterbacks ahead of Henry 
Jacobs or Monterey Metcalf 

454
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:15,100
briefs yada yada. 
The so on their Auto Clicks in 

455
00:23:15,108 --> 00:23:17,300
the late 3rd. 
Like if it's, yes, Dee came at 

456
00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:19,300
kafir like Jalen hurd's with AJ 
Brown. 

457
00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:21,100
Like I am not thinking about 
that. 

458
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:24,400
Yeah, I'm taking I don't think 
they're just from a structural 

459
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,400
perspective and like somebody 
who hasn't drafted as much and 

460
00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:34,300
atp's like my and I might change
on this but my initial read and 

461
00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:37,600
I've been feeling this is like I
want to build running back and 

462
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,900
receiver depth and not 
necessarily running back death. 

463
00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:42,900
But if I'm going to take a 
detour in the first four rounds,

464
00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:44,900
I probably want to. 
With an anchor running back and 

465
00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:46,400
still be building receiver 
depth. 

466
00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:49,000
And I know how that makes my 
teams and this is from obviously

467
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,600
years of drafting. 
I know how I feel about my teams

468
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,700
at the end. 
Does that mean that I'm gonna be

469
00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:55,400
right? 
Not necessarily, but I do still 

470
00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,400
feel that way at those prices 
what it does for a build having 

471
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,500
done, hundreds of drafts of are 
lots of years. 

472
00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:06,300
I don't like it. 
Like I want to be taking now I 

473
00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:09,300
doing 30 slows, and I'm only in 
like the fourth and fifth on the

474
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,900
most advanced of those slows, I 
wanted five fast. 

475
00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:13,500
So I've only finished five 
builds. 

476
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:15,900
A couple of those fast, my 
quarterbacks ended up being so 

477
00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:17,600
bad that those teams are 
probably dead. 

478
00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:21,100
So like I do get that but I 
think the way to win is still 

479
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:25,000
you get a maybe it's a three 
quarterback bill but you get a 

480
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,900
floor at quarterback late and 
you have enough depth of the 

481
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:31,500
other positions because that's 
where you differentiate like yes

482
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:33,300
last year, the top quarterbacks 
differentiated. 

483
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:35,400
Yes, it seems from a profile 
perspective that they will 

484
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,200
continue to. 
I just don't think they can 

485
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,100
differentiate as much at those 
prices to justify. 

486
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:43,600
This will show elite players and
other positions can share. 

487
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,300
The same hopin who put together 
a really good article on for, 

488
00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:51,400
for you guys should check out on
the quarterback prices. 

489
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,700
He simulated out last year's ATP
so he took he said like, all 

490
00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:58,900
right, let's let's dive a little
further than just looking at 

491
00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:01,300
like how these actual teams 
performed. 

492
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:05,700
Let's take the quarterbacks 
front, like who were drafted in 

493
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,800
the third round. 
And let's move them to the 

494
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,200
second round and then like 
replace them with a player 

495
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:13,600
selected in that range in the 
third round. 

496
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:18,200
And sort of like see how last 
year's results would have worked

497
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,500
out with second round ATP prices
and the results were like pretty

498
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:27,300
startling like it's even with 
last year's results which were 

499
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:31,000
most likely an outlier season in
a positive way for the elite. 

500
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,200
Quarterbacks it's still hurt. 
The advanced rates of those 

501
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,200
teams quite a bit. 
It was it was also the first and

502
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,100
second round success rates from 
non cubies and then third round 

503
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:46,700
was like a little Worse, right? 
We had a lot of remember last 

504
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:48,700
year we talked a lot during this
season about like all the points

505
00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:51,200
are coming from guys picked in 
the top 25 picks from the non 

506
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,000
cubies. 
Right? 

507
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,200
So if you well that's fair to 
maybe maybe second round 

508
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,200
opportunity cost looks higher 
than usual. 

509
00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:00,400
But yeah and my feel right now 
is that the third round still 

510
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,900
feels like pretty strong 
opportunity cost, you know so it

511
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:09,500
is Like in some ways like I was 
willing to take second round 

512
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:12,700
Josh Allen because it's like 
well if I'm going to get briefs 

513
00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:16,100
all in the late 3rd. 
Anyway, like what's what? 

514
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:19,700
So this goes back to the the 
pick that I made right before we

515
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,300
went live. 
And you told me we should talk 

516
00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:25,800
about on the show, I have a 
child Cohen, I started digs 

517
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,700
waddle and I was in the middle 
of the third. 

518
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:31,900
And I've been talking to a 
little bit about liking Hall and

519
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:35,300
Ramon Dre and I particularly 
like when they fall deeper into 

520
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:37,400
the third, I mean those are just
really nice pics. 

521
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:42,200
So room Andre was there, three 
picks after ATP? 

522
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,600
And I really like with a digs 
want to start to be able to get 

523
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,500
that anchor running back that I 
think is probably a mid s value.

524
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:52,100
I think from Andres being 
undervalued pretty clearly but 

525
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:56,200
Josh Allen was also there 
five-and-a-half picks behind a 

526
00:26:56,208 --> 00:26:58,400
TB. 
He was the you know the value 

527
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Peck and I have digs on this 
roster and I was asking you guys

528
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,400
what you would do because I have
not taken Allen yet but Tech 31 

529
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000
And I still think that's a 
really steep price to play for a

530
00:27:08,008 --> 00:27:12,700
quarterback when you have digs. 
I mean you said I kind of had to

531
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:15,100
do like it's like you almost I 
wasn't do I have to do that near

532
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,100
like that. 
You kind of have to do that. 

533
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:19,300
I think you're right. 
But yeah, that's where I'm at is

534
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,400
like I have a hard time even 
pull the trigger with a stacked 

535
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,000
pick of Alan knowing that 
there's a lot of people that are

536
00:27:25,008 --> 00:27:28,100
doing digs Allen in the second. 
And so I get this 

537
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,700
differentiation of how waddle on
this roster to, and still 

538
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:32,900
getting this stack. 
But, I mean, just from a 

539
00:27:32,908 --> 00:27:36,100
structural perspective to give 
up her Mantra Stevenson at 3:07.

540
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,700
I just, that's not And I don't 
want to be taking a quarterback 

541
00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:44,400
over running back in that spot. 
Where you guys thoughts on that?

542
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:48,500
I need to take Alan. 
Yeah, for me. 

543
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,700
It's partly that. 
That was a Chow Chow, right? 

544
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,400
Yeah. 
So you're getting the best price

545
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,200
on Alan. 
You know that it may be. 

546
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,800
That there was some very late 
3rd, round Allen or something 

547
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,500
but for the most part that's one
of the better prices that you'll

548
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:05,100
see on Alan stacked in the 
entire tournament. 

549
00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:10,500
Like you're going to get your go
locking in like a Allen digs, 

550
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,600
you know, but you have waddle 
and they have maybe they have 

551
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,900
Ramon Dre, but that's still 
pretty sweet. 

552
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,200
You know, like you're going to 
get an advantage there with your

553
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,700
Elite scope player. 
If it was good for me, it's one 

554
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:26,100
of those things harder. 
My guess is the advance rate is 

555
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:30,400
probably going to favor, the 
skill position players in the 

556
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,800
first few, do 40, picks or 
whatever, but you get to week 17

557
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,700
and you flip the cards over and 
you're like, Oh yeah. 

558
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:44,200
Josh Alan just you know Josh out
has 33 Mahomes through for 503 

559
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,200
yards and four touchdowns 
against the like I just just and

560
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,300
obviously it played out the 
exact opposite of this last year

561
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:55,000
where Tom Brady and Mike Evans 
went completely nuclear and week

562
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,200
17. 
So I think it's an obviously 

563
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,500
like in a one-game samples are 
incredibly small but just like 

564
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:05,600
look at look at 90th percentile 
projections for quarterbacks on 

565
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,900
any given week Mahomes. 
Alan hurts and burrow are going 

566
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:11,900
to be projected for so many more
points. 

567
00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:14,600
And everyone else at a 90th 
percentile, and In fairness the 

568
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,500
elite quarterbacks like, Alan 
and Baroque, didn't have a week,

569
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:22,100
17 game, and the Eagles stuff 
won tournaments without hurts 

570
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,900
even playing. 
So, like, was that the week? 

571
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:28,800
They played? 
Yeah, they Saints game. 

572
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,300
Right? 
Yeah, the Saints game. 

573
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:33,600
Yeah. 
The the winning Tournament 

574
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,500
winning line up on the Draft 
Kings millionaire. 

575
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,500
Is a eagle stack without hurts. 
I mean, hurts would have been 

576
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:45,400
didn't, pretty valuable wasn't 
the DK. 

577
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,500
Winning team Auto. 
Drafted was it II saw enough 

578
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:52,400
correlation where I that would 
be surprising. 

579
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,100
It had like a like a true Eagle 
stack to okay II. 

580
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,200
Saw someone say that on Twitter 
the other day and I don't know, 

581
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000
maybe maybe, I'm maybe I'm 
misunderstanding but I thought I

582
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,800
thought that was something. 
I thought that was something 

583
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800
that was out there. 
That's and additionally, Pat, 

584
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,000
both of them are and Kylie were 
hurt by that point there's 

585
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,900
enough names that it's hard to 
imagine scenarios where none of 

586
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:13,600
them have the. 
I mean, I think that's a good 

587
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,300
point. 
It really was a crazy run out 

588
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:20,900
that Lamar Kyler hurts were all 
out and then Alan and burrow 

589
00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:24,300
both don't play, right? 
I mean like the amount of 

590
00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:28,500
quarterbacks that have a yeah, 
we do this with the last week 17

591
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,200
like in DFS you might you might 
play a slate slightly 

592
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,300
differently because you know 
there's a homes and burrow. 

593
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:41,400
Playing each other on Monday 
night and Josh, Alan's on by and

594
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,400
Lamar's hurt. 
And then it's like well you 

595
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,900
know, now we're only one Elite 
ceiling needs to fail it. 

596
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,900
Yeah, it's like a fading like 
Kyler and Herbert maybe in a 

597
00:30:50,908 --> 00:30:53,300
given week you're like all right
I can I can pay down a 

598
00:30:53,308 --> 00:30:56,600
quarterback much more easily. 
Yeah, it does change the math. 

599
00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:59,800
That's not going to happen every
week 17 for sure a very 

600
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,900
unlikely. 
Yeah. 

601
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,400
So, all right, I still wear 
these crises are still. 

602
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,000
I mean you're still high for 
you. 

603
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,300
So here's what I want to ask you
been. 

604
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,000
Because you've got kind of fresh
eyes on this. 

605
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,200
What are you doing? 
If you're passing on these 

606
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,200
quarterbacks, even at these 
prices, and who knows they could

607
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,200
continue to fall, I think, I 
think they probably like have 

608
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,200
trouble getting past the three, 
four, turn with any consistency.

609
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,600
But one thing I could see 
happening is that the if Lamar 

610
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,400
starts to fall, a little bit in 
the fourth, then I can sit there

611
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,500
and take Andrews in the third 
and get a chance, a little more 

612
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,300
in the fourth, you know, I'm 
going to end up passing on, you 

613
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:37,000
know, I mean, anyway, I just 
think there's a couple things 

614
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,700
that can come. 
I push them down a little 

615
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:41,500
further, but they're going to, I
think 3/4 turn is probably the 

616
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:45,500
cap for the true Elites. 
But like, what are you doing at 

617
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:48,200
quarterback, if you're passing 
on these new prices? 

618
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Yeah, and that's the thing I 
still need to figure out. 

619
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,000
I was trying to say I'm in a lot
of slows and I haven't gotten to

620
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,100
make those decisions yet late 
and then some of the fast I 

621
00:31:56,108 --> 00:32:01,900
didn't necessarily work great. 
But what I do think about taking

622
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:04,900
these pics, early is, we've 
talked about this a little bit. 

623
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,800
The wide receiver window closes 
earlier this year like Bateman 

624
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,600
was guys are like 80 88 so good.
I think your it's like if round 

625
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,200
you have like seven or eight 
pecs to get enough receiver 

626
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,900
death, and why don't you don't 
want to be the dude, clicking 

627
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:21,400
Gigi's to the shoe store, and 
being like shit, smooth. 

628
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,500
That's my wide receiver three. 
Yeah, that's, that's the. 

629
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:27,800
You do not want to be there. 
I've, I've gone the other way in

630
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,700
terms of like drafting like 
unlike I did, I did a best Ball 

631
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:34,900
Mania this morning where I took 
six wide receivers in my first 

632
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:38,800
10 picks or whatever and Did the
team, you know, hated being 

633
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,000
like, well, I got at least limit
it quarterback and tight end 

634
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,800
options. 
But I mean I guess it does at 

635
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,200
the end of the day, I would 
rather just try and do. 

636
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,300
I'll even do three, quarterbacks
three tight ends on Underdog and

637
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:54,000
that scenario, and cut out an 
extra wide receiver, just to 

638
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,700
hope to run because really, I, 
you know, you could take in a 

639
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:02,300
normal distribution. 
You could take three tight ends,

640
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:06,800
who score between. 
Let's call it 120 and 160 .5 P. 

641
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,100
PR point. 
It's but if they layer perfectly

642
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:11,900
if they just for whatever reason
over the course of 17 weeks 

643
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:15,000
happened to completely layer 
there Spike weeks perfectly. 

644
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,900
I mean obviously you're still 
losing to Kelsey and Andrews and

645
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,000
Hawkinson but you're not getting
completely dusted if you're 

646
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,400
getting 12 and a half points per
week or whatever. 

647
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,900
Right. 
You know. 

648
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:31,700
And so I do I this is the I try 
and rescue it that way to your 

649
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:33,100
question, pod about what I'm 
doing. 

650
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:36,900
Like this is a big thing where I
do have some some definitely 

651
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,400
some three key. 
These three tight ends have been

652
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,800
trying to hesitate from doing 
both. 

653
00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:42,900
I did five drafts. 
I'm trying to pull it up like 

654
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:45,700
one was to a Derek Carr. 
I hit a couple keep. 

655
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:47,900
He's like in a little bit of a 
later window. 

656
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:50,900
That was a Tyreke, olave start. 
So it was nice to get both the 

657
00:33:50,908 --> 00:33:54,000
stacks and then up doing a three
tight end build on that one, 

658
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:55,600
right? 
And like so, those sort of 

659
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,700
things, like, I'm probably doing
three on one or the other. 

660
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,500
And part of the reason I'm okay 
with that is I'm making sure to 

661
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,800
get enough receiver depth before
where I think, I think probably 

662
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,300
a lot of drafters are not 
getting enough. 

663
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,300
Receiver depth before a shrunk 
wide receiver window this year 

664
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:14,600
because people don't realize it,
it has shrunk. 

665
00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:17,600
I'll tell you from whom any 
detours and you have less 

666
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,400
availability for detours in the 
first seven or eight rounds this

667
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,199
year than I think. 
People realize I still want to 

668
00:34:22,207 --> 00:34:24,699
get an elite tight end if I can,
and I think they're a really 

669
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:26,300
good running back prices early 
there, right? 

670
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:28,600
Like, I'm just talk about room 
Andre and briefs and I want to 

671
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,900
make those pics. 
I, I don't think you can take 

672
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:33,300
three or four early running 
backs in any scenario, but a 

673
00:34:33,308 --> 00:34:37,000
couple and then build out 
running back death later, you 

674
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,900
can still Really good. 
Running back room. 

675
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,400
You have to get the receiver 
depth. 

676
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,400
It feels like to me before round
8. 

677
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,699
So yeah, I mean makes it really 
tough to justify those early 

678
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:48,500
cubies for me? 
Yeah I think there's it's 

679
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:52,400
possible that we because all the
wide receivers are priced up 

680
00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:57,700
like that teams that only have 
four through seven are going to 

681
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:02,200
feel a little weak. 
Like I think it's actually it's 

682
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,700
one of those things where the 
wide receiver pricing. 

683
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:05,100
Can go both ways. 
We're like that. 

684
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:07,700
You want to maybe figure out 
ways to counter it but also, So 

685
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:10,800
I do think there is kind of a 
wide receiver Dead Zone. 

686
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,700
Like the to me the Hopkins. 
Watson keen and Judy Mike 

687
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:18,300
Williams areas a bit dead but 
then it comes back alive. 

688
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,900
I don't think it's yeah I think 
it's flat. 

689
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,300
It comes back alive again to me 
Godwin through, honestly, all 

690
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:28,300
the way through Datsun a wide 
receiver finally dots. 

691
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:33,500
And yeah, so I like, I like to 
I've ended up with a bunch more 

692
00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:37,900
than I planned of Jameer Gibbs. 
Kenneth Walker, Aaron Own chick 

693
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:40,400
a job ins Joe Mixon? 
Because I'm like, well, I can 

694
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,200
just I just need a running back 
here. 

695
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:46,100
These wide receivers are flat to
me, I'll take, whoever I get and

696
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,700
6 so it's not even like, oh, I 
can't wait to click the button 

697
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:51,700
on Kenneth Walker because I kind
of love Kenneth Walker. 

698
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,300
But here, let's check my 
exposure. 

699
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:56,400
I'm not gonna answer that 
because I feel like it gives me 

700
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:59,000
if I take a wide receiver there.
Even if though I kind of don't 

701
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:04,400
care who then I can like take a 
running back in the eighth round

702
00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:07,200
or ninth round or tenth round 
and I love those. 

703
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,600
Spics and I hate the wide 
receivers in like the tenth just

704
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,200
hated it. 
I see this is what I want to do.

705
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,500
This is the biggest thing I 
haven't done yet but I want to 

706
00:36:14,508 --> 00:36:17,000
be doing love star says, I've 
built some really strong teams 

707
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,500
likely going 6 wide receivers to
start. 

708
00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:21,600
I don't know that I have all 
wide receiver starts just 

709
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,000
because where I'm like at in I 
got a lot of one-on-one. 

710
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,500
It's harder, right? 
Because there's so there is 

711
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,200
running back value like that. 
It's just true. 

712
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,500
There is more running back value
in round. 

713
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,700
I got I know I got a couple 
twelves and I know one I think 

714
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:37,200
I'm only at I've only through 
four picks and I started 

715
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,100
Receiver receiver. 
I don't know which of the two. 

716
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:42,500
I've had a couple latex for it. 
You know, almond Rock and get 

717
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:46,600
Wilson and Adams, and Liam are 
all in that range and then I got

718
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,800
DK and Debo at the three, four 
turn. 

719
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,300
I know I started, four straight 
receive it from the 12 slot, but

720
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:56,400
I mean, if you get that type of 
receiver depth, you can go back 

721
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,200
to like the old-school like 
Puris Ross. 

722
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,000
This is 0 or B even without any 
kind of other detours. 

723
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,800
Just get so much receiver 
Firepower before like the 

724
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,400
eighth. 
I mean maybe you want to take a 

725
00:37:08,408 --> 00:37:11,000
tight end eat or something, 
probably do you probably want to

726
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,900
delete one of the two ones? 
He's one of keep your tie-down 

727
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,500
is true, but I think you can 
still build a really strong 0r B

728
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:20,700
room starting in like round nine
like a really good one for yes, 

729
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,900
11:51 really strong like really 
strong. 

730
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:28,500
Like I have I have a team. 
That's it was like, Richard 

731
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:33,900
white Cam Akers, Damien Harris 
and like a gentleman, Warren 

732
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:36,800
maybe and I was thinking Harris 
if things break right for him, 

733
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,600
he could Look around three pick 
next year honestly. 

734
00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:43,000
Yeah, so I was looking at that 
team and I've been I had a 

735
00:37:43,008 --> 00:37:45,300
choice between Devon Singletary 
and Marvin memes. 

736
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,100
And I was like I just want to go
Mims here because I feel like 

737
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:51,600
I'm like actually super strong 
running back but I took I took 

738
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,200
Singletary because I was like 
this is a true zero running back

739
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,900
build. 
You should continue to add fire 

740
00:37:56,900 --> 00:38:00,400
but my wide receivers are very 
strong so but there is like it's

741
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,700
such a strong range in that, you
know, round like late-round 72. 

742
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,200
Like it does dry up pretty 
quickly. 

743
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:10,600
I would say it kind of starts to
dry up by the early ground, 11 

744
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:14,000
range, but you can just Hammer 
that and then I'm like shit. 

745
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,100
Like this feels like I took 
running backs in 2019, starting 

746
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:22,900
in round 4, right. 
Someone just said you can start 

747
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:26,200
56 receivers and have mix in is 
like a Suitor ink pseudo anchor 

748
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,300
running back. 
Like what are things we talked 

749
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:30,300
about with mix-ins ATP. 
And you got a but you can't. 

750
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:34,500
I like I like that better with 
like a quick little stop at the 

751
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,200
Chalet for like a hot chocolate 
of like Mark Andrews. 

752
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:40,300
It's like I like I like that. 
A lot better if you skirt away 

753
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:43,000
from the Avalanche to get 
yourself a little cocoa you 

754
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,900
know, a little a little sprinkle
on top. 

755
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:47,600
I like I like that. 
I like it a lot better than just

756
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,600
be just because I mean for the 
very simple reason of I do 

757
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,100
think, I think this matters much
less and the FPC and I mean 

758
00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,500
we're going to get into the 0r 
B. 

759
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,200
Holy Wars, I don't pray about a 
month from now is when all that 

760
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,700
stuff will start but I do think 
Sports as soon as we go to FPC 

761
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:07,500
because I think it's still like 
normal over there. 

762
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:14,500
I think it's the Gary years ago.
But the issue is I do think it's

763
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,700
probably from I would I wonder 
if we should ping Leone or 

764
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:23,200
hating them this but my guess is
it's bad to be in the Thor, 

765
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,900
sixth round taking a player who 
cannot contribute to your 

766
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:28,200
lineup. 
If things go. 

767
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Well, right. 
Like my my guess would be that 

768
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,200
from an optimization perspective
to be spending you know for 

769
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,900
thinking of these in terms of 
like auction dollars or whatever

770
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,700
might, you know, to be spending.
You know, 15% of your cap on a 

771
00:39:44,707 --> 00:39:48,000
player who if things are going 
well will nor, or will 

772
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,800
invalidate. 
The guy you just spent thirty 

773
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,300
percent. 
That's not how wide receiver 

774
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:52,100
scoring works. 
Yeah. 

775
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,200
I don't want to see her depth is
always what this because they 

776
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,700
are volatile and they have 
higher Peaks and but they can 

777
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:01,000
also have well, you're giving 
yourself six outs to, you know, 

778
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,400
for insanely good what you're? 
But you're really at running 

779
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,200
back, whatever. 
You know the distribution there 

780
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,400
is going to be more random but 
you're really crushing. 

781
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,500
The potential Point you'll have 
available at quarterback and 

782
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:15,800
tight end. 
Well, I do think you want to get

783
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,300
at least one Elite. 
Yeah, it would be yeah, I agree 

784
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:20,400
with that. 
It's tough to eat. 

785
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,100
If you're if you're training 
yourself intentionally towards 

786
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,200
the three qb3 tie-dyed built and
the answer for mean, typically 

787
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,000
is the elite tight end is the 
preference, right? 

788
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,200
So that's again. 
Well, there where the prices 

789
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,400
are? 
I mean, if you look at what 

790
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,500
happened last year, right, great
year for elite quarterback. 

791
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,700
By the way, people hate hearing 
it. 

792
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:41,700
Great year for really tight. 
End view had kelsier kittel. 

793
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:45,300
It was a smash. 
So the the leak tight end just 

794
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:48,300
feels worse, because in order 
like one of the ways, it can be 

795
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:50,800
a great year for Lee tight end, 
is that every tight end, but to 

796
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,900
suck, but it's like, hey, if you
have been, if you have those 

797
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:57,100
two, it's an it and one of them 
who didn't suck suck for most of

798
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:58,800
the year. 
And then was good, right? 

799
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:00,900
Kelsey was just a Faraway. 
Absolute smash. 

800
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:03,000
But that was the whole thesis 
was that. 

801
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,500
They, he could like one of these
illegal activity. 

802
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:08,000
Yeah. 
Just Slap the field, right? 

803
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,800
Field includes a lot of bus for 
the other guys that we all took,

804
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,500
which feels shitty and it wasn't
enough depth or upside all the 

805
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:18,000
way in the late rounds or wasn't
going to be a late round, smash 

806
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,400
it tight end. 
We all saw this, right? 

807
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,600
I mean this was what the market 
is, reacted saying I'm in on Ali

808
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,000
quarterback. 
That feels good. 

809
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Prices are up, you know. 
Now they're falling a little bit

810
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,600
from where they started, but 
they're still up and prices are 

811
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,800
down on tight ends. 
Like, in a big way. 

812
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,500
Kyle pits you can get him in the
late sixth a lot, right? 

813
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:38,100
Dallas car. 
You can get him in the early 

814
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:41,500
seventh, sometimes like these 
times force myself to not let my

815
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:43,200
first too fast dress. 
I took pits. 

816
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,900
I think I had too many pios and 
I had to force myself to like I 

817
00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:48,800
can't have 50% calpads again. 
Like I had to stop taking 

818
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,700
immediately but I think I don't 
think that's gonna take this 

819
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,100
guy. 
It's way it's for what his 

820
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:55,400
ceiling is. 
It stupid? 

821
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,600
It doesn't make any sense. 
There's no reason you should be 

822
00:41:57,607 --> 00:42:00,900
going out to drink London in the
same offense, the same, like 

823
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:04,800
London's profile is not better 
than pits. . 

824
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,200
Yeah, I don't. 
Do you think is a wide receiver?

825
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,900
He is a little bit higher of a 
production ceiling, but I get 

826
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:12,600
what you're saying, but he 
doesn't get to unintelligible. 

827
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,300
Marginal right crane. 
We gotta go. 

828
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:17,000
We gotta go to the risers, bro. 
Where I gotta ask you a quick 

829
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,700
question before 45 NM podcast. 
But FYI, it's your pick 

830
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:23,600
notification. 
I've seen people complain about 

831
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,500
this. 
How about its mistakes? 

832
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:29,100
I think that what are you doing?
Why don't you? 

833
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,700
I don't, there's no reason to 
complain about that. 

834
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,000
That's a good thing over and 
over again. 

835
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,100
I'm in 30 slows, I get these. 
FYI, it's your pick 

836
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:40,300
notifications constantly. 
Hey, I just want you guys to are

837
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:43,100
fading Derrick. 
Henry to know that season-long 

838
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:46,100
props are coming out if he's got
the highest rushing yardage prop

839
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,200
of any running back, just, I 
haven't gotten anywhere close to

840
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600
timing out like that. 
Even five hours close. 

841
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,400
I don't need these five. 
He was telling me to move on, 

842
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,800
followed by been saying, hang 
on. 

843
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,500
I've got something to say about 
the FYI. 

844
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:58,700
It's your pick. 
Notification is an all time I 

845
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:00,700
stopped getting it. 
I thought there was a way to 

846
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:03,100
start getting. 
All right, let's move to the 

847
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:05,900
risers. 
The Slide in the slide decks 40 

848
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:07,800
minutes in. 
We are to the first slide. 

849
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:10,100
I did want to. 
I did check it as we were 

850
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:12,000
talking. 
There are no 80. 

851
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,900
There are no risers for 
quarterbacks on this list was 

852
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:16,600
kind of interesting given how 
many are falling? 

853
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:18,500
No one's kind of coming up to 
replace them. 

854
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:22,000
Like I thought maybe like are we
seeing a Richardson increase? 

855
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,700
And if anything else it's just 
it's just all it's all its 

856
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:27,700
unilateral to all across the 
board. 

857
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,600
All due respect to run down 
more, who's up to 148 know? 

858
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:38,100
All all due respect. 
You don't seem very respectful 

859
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:39,700
Davis. 
Yes, still too low. 

860
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:45,500
No, no, it's not Rondell. 
Rot like Rondell like a gadget 

861
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:47,600
guy. 
I literally would rather Greg 

862
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,800
Dortch in the last round than 
Rondell more at his new price. 

863
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,100
Now I think I funny I think I 
think he's one of the few guys 

864
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:56,300
outside that's wide receiver 
window was talking about 

865
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:59,600
earlier, that could be 
justifiably inside of it with 

866
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,700
this profile TR has him ranked 
115th overall. so he's going to 

867
00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:09,600
continue to rise, I would say It
just feels like there's not that

868
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,400
much meat on the bone. 
If Earth's is not retiring if 

869
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,000
somehow Earth's Gerald still 
there and Hollywood Brown is now

870
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,200
the Hollywood Brown rise who 
also that I get. 

871
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,700
I'm actually on board. 
I'm completely toured with. 

872
00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:25,500
I think I've always been above 
Market on him. 

873
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:28,200
I think he's very good. 
I thought it was Savvy business 

874
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:33,700
by the Cardinals to acquire him 
but Rondell, it's just like I've

875
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,400
wanted Rondell to happen so many
times. 

876
00:44:36,500 --> 00:44:40,100
Times in my life like it feels 
like it feels like I bet it 

877
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:43,700
feels like a decade of Rondell 
more and it's been two years. 

878
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,200
I don't know. 
I just start by your like 

879
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,600
admitting that you don't want to
drive them because you're sick 

880
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,200
of and that's what it's more 
just it's more just he's had a 

881
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,700
lot of opportunities to play and
he just is, is really a pretty 

882
00:44:58,900 --> 00:45:03,500
mediocre football player. 
He didn't really play much as a 

883
00:45:03,508 --> 00:45:07,600
rookie, he was a gadget players.
A rookie but don't like what I 

884
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,700
think. 
I died like .5 or something but 

885
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:13,300
I think I think that is a - I 
think I think we ought, isn't he

886
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:15,700
right? 
It is - we do this with rookies 

887
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:19,700
we like you know they this is 
classic ship chasing right here 

888
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,300
where it's like with a rookie. 
We like really? 

889
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:22,200
Yeah. 
But he didn't really get a 

890
00:45:22,207 --> 00:45:24,600
chance to play and that a guy we
don't like really. 

891
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,900
He couldn't even get all the 
field. 

892
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:29,400
He stinks, you know, where 
that's 100% true. 

893
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,500
But I would say if you want to 
You know, to say, he is what he 

894
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:37,300
is, when he hasn't really played
as a little tougher. 

895
00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:40,100
Like, you can say, he's maybe 
not very good because I haven't 

896
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:41,200
been able to get on the field a 
lot. 

897
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:50,100
I think he hasn't played at the 
NFL level of the college level 

898
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:52,000
either, right? 
But he was very productive when 

899
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,900
he played the players would do 
this on are the ones. 

900
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,700
I always am writing about and 
talking about a longer timeline.

901
00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,200
They're the ones that we saw 
produce at a really high level 

902
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,800
in college. 
Those games. 

903
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,300
Don't Count for our fantasy 
football but they're real 

904
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:06,900
competitive football games that 
people love to just like 

905
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,000
completely ignore happen because
they want to look at only the 

906
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,800
NFL track record. 
There's a difference between not

907
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,400
getting on the NFL level but 
having shown in college that you

908
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,700
can produce on the field in ways
that tends to be right. 

909
00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:22,800
But there's there's a real knot 
and shown that and then also not

910
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,500
producing the NFL, but there's a
very real reason why Rhonda 

911
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:28,800
would be capable of producing 
numbers in college that he would

912
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,900
not be able to duplicate at the 
NFL, which is that he's the 

913
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:33,100
size. 
An infant. 

914
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:37,900
He's he is extremely like he is 
so small. 

915
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:40,900
He is. 
He is 56, dude. 

916
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:45,400
He is a baby. 
He is very small. 

917
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:50,800
If you have that that's that's 
there's no there's no counter to

918
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,300
that point. 
It's the same thing. 

919
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:54,800
It's the same thing. 
Like any time, any time I start 

920
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,400
to get excited about like 22 at.
Well, who I like think is going 

921
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,900
to play so much this year. 
I don't really see a way around 

922
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:04,600
him. 
Not but it's like there's just a

923
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:06,200
to me. 
It feels like an extremely 

924
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,100
limited range of outcomes when 
you're literally that small. 

925
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:12,200
The difference with 22 is weight
is different, a lot difference 

926
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,700
in height Rondell still 180. 
He's jacked up, he squatted. 

927
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:17,600
He's hungry. 
Extremely Jami. 

928
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,700
Yeah, he is, he's a, he's a good
bowling ball player. 

929
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:21,900
When we've seen players like a 
Darren Sproles kind of, you 

930
00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:25,100
know, you're like that's super 
stocky, mold Maurice Jones-Drew.

931
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:27,300
Like, he's not a running back, 
obviously, but we generally have

932
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:29,300
seen running backs in this mode,
more than receivers. 

933
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:32,100
It's not I'm not I think it's 
bringing me. 

934
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:37,400
Pleasure to be, to be the guy, 
you know, having to having the 

935
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,500
Negron Elmore, I've like Ronelle
more for a long time, but I like

936
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:46,000
the range of outcomes for 
Rondell more on a the worst team

937
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,300
in football with Clayton tune 
quarterbacking like kind of the 

938
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:53,300
thesis with Rondell was always 
like yeah well you know they 

939
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,400
Cliff it's the horizontal raid 
and Kyler's like you know 

940
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,400
running around doing stuff like 
it's it was all sort of tied and

941
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,400
now it's like no one knows. 
That's part of why I kind of 

942
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,100
like the wrong they'll play is 
it is going to be a shit show 

943
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:07,600
and they're going to need 
something. 

944
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:13,200
And it's like, also, like that's
got some run last year, when it 

945
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,500
became, you've been promised. 
Let's just start chucking the 

946
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:17,900
ball. 
Downfield, the 22 at, well, and 

947
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:19,800
see what happens. 
That's why that's why I'm 

948
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,200
drafting, that's why I'm 
drafting door, chime drafting 

949
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,200
Dortch for the true shit show, 
which is that it goes so 

950
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,400
sideways that the up, they build
the entire offense at a four 

951
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,100
yard passes to Greg door, if you
want to know Davis. 

952
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,000
To open your third eye on the 
sky. 

953
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:37,400
You know, if you say Michael 
Wilson to me, I'm like leaving 

954
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,700
this dream. 
I was gonna say Michael Wilson. 

955
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,700
I mean, no. 
Mike third round Receiver right.

956
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,200
Michael Wilson is made up dude. 
Michael Wilson was like a New 

957
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,300
England Patriots psyop. 
They brought him in for a top 30

958
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:51,600
visit. 
He's like, he's like a five-year

959
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,900
specialty more at a school that 
doesn't throw the forward pass 

960
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:56,800
Davis. 
If Michael Wilson went in the 

961
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,900
seventh round, you would be 
touting him non-stop. 

962
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,100
He is, he's literally Jeff Janis
f. 

963
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:08,100
Heck yeah, he is he really is 
fucking awesome. 

964
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,900
Yeah. 
Jeff Jonas was really productive

965
00:49:10,900 --> 00:49:12,500
though. 
People forget it Saginaw Valley 

966
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:13,900
State, dude. 
You just put number. 

967
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:22,600
That's true speaking. 
Speaking of speaking of like, 

968
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:27,300
sir Pruder film level stuff, we 
gotta get tray lands on the 

969
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:30,800
largest ADP followers do. 
Did you guys see that clip of 

970
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,300
him missing? 
That throw in 49ers can oh it 

971
00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:40,500
wasn't that bad? 
Yes, it was Sam. 

972
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:51,000
Do you work on that as you can 
sail throws? 

973
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,700
And he sails the throw and it's 
like one bad rep. 

974
00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:57,700
When your shoulder is completely
open is not like I was actually 

975
00:49:57,700 --> 00:49:59,600
encouraged by his Mobility is 
like look great. 

976
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:03,900
His leg. 
Totally, he's moving around a 

977
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:07,700
bunch and then he throws and the
coach does look very dejected 

978
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:09,200
with the ball goes away over his
head. 

979
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,200
Like I get, I get David's this 
point for sure. 

980
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,600
But I mean, like, you can make 
anyone look but not anyone here 

981
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,600
but a lot of quarterbacks look 
bad with that drill. 

982
00:50:16,700 --> 00:50:22,900
I think here we go. 
The audio capability looks 

983
00:50:22,900 --> 00:50:24,900
great. 
The audio listeners are really 

984
00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:31,500
missing out right here. 
And then if you see, there's no 

985
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,800
way you can sell this to me is 
not a big deal. 

986
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,900
Make that throw. 
Same Donald, most talented, 

987
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:12,500
thrower, igniters history of 
you. 

988
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,300
Have you seen the Anthony 
Richardson Pro? 

989
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,000
Yeah. 
Great throw but it's pretty fun.

990
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:20,000
I mean are you talking? 
Are you doubting me talking 

991
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,900
about the one where he is like 
literally running around for 

992
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:25,700
like Seventeen seconds and then 
throws it into a net? 

993
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:27,400
Yes it does. 
Great great. 

994
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:49,800
I'm extremely interested in 
this. 

995
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:56,300
I mean, this is look at him. 
Look at 

996
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,300
one of these guys who's 
extremely long strides You just,

997
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:31,900
I cannot wait. 
Another Ryan gets sent, us is 

998
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:34,600
literally the same person and 
you have a completely. 

999
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,700
Oh no. 
Oh no. 

1000
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:38,000
Hang on. 
I got another one. 

1001
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,900
I got another one for us. 
Is it the brightest of the one 

1002
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:43,300
where Bryce young looks like. 
He's about four foot six. 

1003
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,900
No Ryan, Ryan DMG and Adriana 
has won the Trail ants 10. 

1004
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,200
It's like it's like enough, you 
know, she's Yeah, but you're 

1005
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:10,800
going to want to see it anyway 
is that he's not the coach who's

1006
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,100
standing about 10 feet away from
social stop? 

1007
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,100
That was coming back before it 
lands. 

1008
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,300
The coastlines, not not 20 
anymore. 

1009
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,500
Are you saying that this is a 
psyop by the 49ers coaches to 

1010
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:25,400
her? 
Trey Lance's confidence. 

1011
00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:39,600
No did an inside job. 
Oh God. 

1012
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,800
Yes. 
Oh God, please. 

1013
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:44,000
Is that Arnold? 
Who is it - Jimmy? 

1014
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,400
Or was it is Jimmy? 
How long ago was that Jimmy? 

1015
00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:49,600
That's what I was thinking. 
Immediate wasn't any change in 

1016
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,300
temperature. 
Okay, that's the chances. 

1017
00:53:53,300 --> 00:54:00,700
It's not Sia. 
What does it say about Trail 

1018
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:02,900
ants? 
That we thought that was Joe it 

1019
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:04,100
right? 
Right. 

1020
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:06,700
It does. 
I mean confidence confidence. 

1021
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:13,300
My confidence cooler, consumer 
confidence and Trail ads is at 

1022
00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:17,100
is at an all-time low. 
I mean, it is because the the 

1023
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,700
big thing is, is no one. 
I don't think, I don't think 

1024
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:22,100
anyone believes Korean. 
We talked about this last week. 

1025
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:23,900
Obviously, we talked about 
trailer and every week on this 

1026
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:27,400
program, I don't think anyone 
actually believes in the thesis 

1027
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,000
that you outlined either last 
week or two weeks ago, which is 

1028
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,400
that he starts the season and 
actually plays well enough to 

1029
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,300
keep the job. 
I don't think anyone is drafting

1030
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:37,000
him. 
That way, I don't think anyone 

1031
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,400
believes that Well, then like, 
what's the point? 

1032
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,600
What's the play? 
There is no, there is no point. 

1033
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,400
The point is just to take 
pretty, which I do, you're 

1034
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,600
saying no one, no one thinks 
that Lance can start all season?

1035
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:54,200
No, I don't think I truly think 
that people believe that the 

1036
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,200
only way land starts is by 
default. 

1037
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,000
I don't think anyone, I don't 
think anyone. 

1038
00:54:58,100 --> 00:55:02,900
Yes, we've stopped sharing the 
slides, we are only looking back

1039
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:46,900
on wrong, but why? 
Yeah. 

1040
00:55:46,900 --> 00:55:49,700
You could just present this if 
you would prefer but I'm about 

1041
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:53,900
to pull it up. 
Alright so this is another 

1042
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:57,300
video. 
And we have to, we have to do, 

1043
00:55:57,300 --> 00:56:01,000
we have, do we have Donald now 
and God by side throwing 

1044
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,700
motions? 
I'm getting confirmation. 

1045
00:56:02,700 --> 00:56:10,800
That this is not a g. 
This is definitely not Jimmy G, 

1046
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,100
we have confirmed So it's both 
are throwing motions. 

1047
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:16,400
My point is, Lance does this 
drill and throws a good ball 

1048
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,900
that's going right to the guy. 
So look, there's a one good rep.

1049
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,800
They actually look pretty soon. 
Why is his throwing motion? 

1050
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,900
So lateral. 
You know what I mean? 

1051
00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:27,800
Not only throwing motion. 
Looks better for this drill. 

1052
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,400
He stays wide man's has to like 
turn his body in a way that he's

1053
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,000
not supposed to for the drill. 
He's like incapable of doing the

1054
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,500
drill. 
Well, Lance confirmed as good as

1055
00:56:38,500 --> 00:56:39,800
Sam Donald. 
So what could go wrong? 

1056
00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:43,600
That's all right. 
Let's get back to the charts 

1057
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,900
here. 
Any other Riders, why is Hopkins

1058
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:49,000
ATP up. 
There's only one spot. 

1059
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,800
He could go. 
Where his price would be better?

1060
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,300
I thought the right weird, I 
disagree. 

1061
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Okay, where are the spots you 
would go? 

1062
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,300
Where you'd like it more? 
If he goes to the the Chiefs I 

1063
00:56:59,308 --> 00:57:02,000
mean it's an absolute smash that
you're getting an ATP value. 

1064
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:05,600
So like you want to price that 
in a little bit at 8:30. 

1065
00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:09,800
How high do you think he gets? 
I think you would go to the two 

1066
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,700
three turn. 
Maybe but that's not. 

1067
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:15,300
Yeah. 
Do you think there would be any 

1068
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:19,600
corresponding fall from Kelsey? 
If he gets pushed up that high a

1069
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,300
little bit? 
Yeah. 

1070
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,800
Yeah those who would be more 
like what do I take Kelsey, or 

1071
00:57:24,808 --> 00:57:27,300
Bijan or Kelsey irregular? 
I think people would be a little

1072
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:28,900
bit more like to be in that 
range. 

1073
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:32,700
Okay. 
All the Elijah more Riser is 

1074
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:35,200
just because people had the same
Instinct that I did, which is 

1075
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,500
they get to that range of wide 
receiver and they're like, I'm 

1076
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:39,600
not clicking a little Beckham. 
I'm not clicking. 

1077
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,700
You just with Schuster, I'm not 
clicking. 

1078
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,500
Of these, it has nothing to do 
with him. 

1079
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,000
It has nothing to do with his. 
He's always anything because 

1080
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,600
anything, if anything, he should
be falling. 

1081
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,300
But it's just because he's he 
has is Young and not as 

1082
00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:54,500
disappointing and grows as some 
of the other. 

1083
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Yeah, like I've even I've backed
off taking him as he's gotten 

1084
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,700
more expensive because I'm a 
dad. 

1085
00:58:00,500 --> 00:58:03,500
He still might be my most Raptor
wide receiver, I hope he's not 

1086
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,000
Jerome Ford. 
Rising is interesting. 

1087
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,700
I think it's a reminder that 
like sometimes the markets just 

1088
00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:13,500
sort of slow on like, very 
Snooze like that. 

1089
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:16,900
This isn't even really news but 
like, since the combine Matthew 

1090
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:20,100
Berry our berries, article with 
with the combine rumors, Jerome 

1091
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:22,200
Ford being the locked in? 
Number two, in Cleveland, was in

1092
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,600
that piece. 
Everything they've done since is

1093
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,500
that he's been locked in number 
two and it feels like people are

1094
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:27,900
just like, he's locked in number
two. 

1095
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,200
It's like we've known this for 
months. 

1096
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,700
We've sometimes. 
Yeah. 

1097
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,900
Sometimes that just isn't like 
like known enough for just like 

1098
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:37,600
enough people don't care. 
So I don't know if you feel like

1099
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,700
you have a strong green about 
that, I would keep getting 

1100
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:42,100
longer. 
It goes with like cream hunt. 

1101
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:44,400
Not site. 
Like, I think, you know, during 

1102
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,300
the free agency period look when
Barry did write that and it 

1103
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:49,100
should have been known. 
People are like, well, maybe 

1104
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:51,500
cream hot will come back or 
whatever, like, until he signed 

1105
00:58:51,500 --> 00:58:52,800
somewhere else. 
I'm not going to believe it. 

1106
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,000
And now it's been like months 
and he still a free agents, 

1107
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,200
okay? 
With a bronzer, pretty? 

1108
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,300
Clearly not bringing it back and
I think it's sometimes it just 

1109
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:01,300
take time but you're right. 
I mean it should have happened 

1110
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:02,900
earlier. 
Yeah. 

1111
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,400
I mean like a guy, you know, 
Hubbard's not on the list this 

1112
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,300
week but he's definitely risen 
from where it used to be. 

1113
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:09,900
But that's that's one of those 
ones. 

1114
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:14,700
Singletary's and other guy acted
like clear number twos and like,

1115
00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:15,900
I don't know. 
I feel like the market 

1116
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:18,100
eventually be like, he's the 
clear tumor to it's like, well, 

1117
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:20,800
well and I mean, get him cheat, 
this isn't a clear number two 

1118
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,700
thing but it talented players in
an offense word. 

1119
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:27,100
Be good to be the backup. 
Tie Chandler and Duane. 

1120
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:30,600
McBride were the two guys that I
said last time, I was on here 

1121
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,800
would rise in ATP and They're 
still last round picks. 

1122
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,300
I've taken them in some of my 
drafts already because I still 

1123
00:59:37,300 --> 00:59:39,300
think that's just ridiculous. 
If that there was, there was a 

1124
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:41,400
report. 
There was a report that came out

1125
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,500
last week that Chandler's 
probably the to McBride is the 

1126
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:49,300
guy is the outside. 
Looking in the fry machine is 

1127
00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:51,300
going and integrate seven rounds
higher. 

1128
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:54,000
If that's the case, right? 
Like if cook the whole body 

1129
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,400
Piniella has hi Chandler. 
We're so handsome. 

1130
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:04,800
And so, yeah, so much Yeah. 
Who's higher? 

1131
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,000
ETR on Rondell more or Evan 
Silva and Tai Chan. 

1132
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,200
Lee the answer is actually, 
Maybe I'm Wrong. 

1133
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,900
Maybe I'm Wrong about Rondell. 
I don't know. 

1134
01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:16,400
Because of the context of how 
bad wide receiver is like, I'd 

1135
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,200
rather have Rondell d'anjou 
Smith Schuster. 

1136
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,800
Probably right. 
That's yeah, beckworth making I 

1137
01:00:21,808 --> 01:00:24,800
don't think the likelihood of it
hitting his high, but it is 

1138
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,800
about worth making as opposed to
Juju. 

1139
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,300
Like, is that even a bet with 
making a team throughout the 

1140
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,100
18th round, Greg torch though. 
I can't there's I can't tell 

1141
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,200
you, Thank you. 
I kind of like it. 

1142
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,600
All right. 
Let's watch as we should. 

1143
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:39,700
Yeah, why is Josh debt? 
Why is Josh Downs following so 

1144
01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:41,100
much this? 
Because he should have been. 

1145
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:42,500
He should have been going here. 
The whole time. 

1146
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,600
Yeah, he's a third round. 
Pick did people just get people 

1147
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,700
just got really excited about 
like the first day of rookie 

1148
01:00:48,700 --> 01:00:50,900
OTAs and they were, like, I 
gotta take a year. 

1149
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:53,500
So Josh Downs together. 
No, it's it wasn't a high 

1150
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:55,100
pre-draft. 
That's what it was. 

1151
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,100
Is it his price never corrected?
Pull strap? 

1152
01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:59,700
Like he was thought, like, maybe
he's going to be a late first 

1153
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:01,400
round her at first, then I was 
like, well, it made us more 

1154
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,100
second. 
Rounder, Third, there was a rub,

1155
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:06,800
the bills are gonna take him in 
the late first and they end up 

1156
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,200
taking Kincaid for the slot role
but that's exactly exactly. 

1157
01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:13,900
So I think Hyatt is another guy 
who is, what is contained on 

1158
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:15,900
this list? 
When is Kincaid going to be on 

1159
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:17,800
the fallers? 
What are we doing? 

1160
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,000
But don't Kincaid everybody. 
I don't know but there comes on 

1161
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,900
the rise was at least, right? 
Yeah. 

1162
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,000
But coming out there like we 
don't even know how to use it. 

1163
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,900
Pump the brakes. 
Like we're literally telling you

1164
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,700
we don't know anything about it.
Like the last quote was like we 

1165
01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:33,800
got to get to know who he is. 
Us to get to know us. 

1166
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,100
We don't even know what we're 
doing here. 

1167
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:37,900
Like props I've gotten Dawson 
knocks in the 17th. 

1168
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:40,500
Yeah, I took him already a 
couple times in my fast. 

1169
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:42,600
That's the starting tight end 
for the bills. 

1170
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:45,900
That's an easy one for three, 
tight end, builds like that's an

1171
01:01:45,900 --> 01:01:48,800
easy one, easy, I think you can 
take him. 

1172
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,400
I think I was going to say you 
could take him as a backstop to 

1173
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,600
Kelsey or Andrews or holds, no 
problem. 

1174
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:56,200
I think you could take them to a
backstop to in-joke. 

1175
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,800
Ooh like if I haven't Joko and 
Dawson are you guys I'm okay. 

1176
01:02:00,100 --> 01:02:02,200
Do you guys find yourself taking
David a joke? 

1177
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,200
Ooh, because you're Sitting 
there on the clock in the ninth 

1178
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,500
round and you're like all these 
other names make me like 

1179
01:02:06,500 --> 01:02:08,600
actively ill. 
So I'm just going to take David 

1180
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,300
and joke. 
Ooh, I do sometimes, take that. 

1181
01:02:11,300 --> 01:02:13,800
Yeah, yeah. 
Well and Joe goes higher than 

1182
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,600
frying fry moves, the one that 
I've gotten. 

1183
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,000
So I like firemen flat to. 
I saved him a lot of range. 

1184
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,300
I'm sure I'll take and joking 
when some of my slows get their 

1185
01:02:20,300 --> 01:02:23,500
farm with goes ahead of him but 
that ATP is actually in joke who

1186
01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:26,100
hire right now Right? 
Yeah, that's true. 

1187
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:28,600
And and farm with Falls for some
reason, like he was sitting 

1188
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,900
there, I needed a running back 
really bad and I couldn't take 

1189
01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:34,600
him, but he was like 8:26 EP in 
one draft. 

1190
01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:40,600
Try z2e. 
Anyone else here? 

1191
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,900
And now I think we're good. 
I feel like there's someone I 

1192
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:45,700
said we talk about them, we 
didn't talk about but whatever. 

1193
01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:51,300
All right stacks, these are your
weak 17-game Stacks. 

1194
01:02:51,300 --> 01:02:56,800
The prices of them, the 
expensive team here in purple 

1195
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,200
and the cheaper team in red. 
You know what's in the cost of 

1196
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,100
getting a full week, 17 games 
Tech are you know it's a great 

1197
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:07,800
game stack. 
The Houston Texans in Tennessee 

1198
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,800
Titans. 
Yes, I feel like we're talking 

1199
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,400
about this. 
Last time, I was on and had 

1200
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,200
talked about the week prior the 
ATP ATP is not doing. 

1201
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,800
You can get, you can get the 
leading receiver for the Titans.

1202
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,400
Let's so exciting to make this 
about Derrick Henry, you can get

1203
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,600
the leading receiver for the 
Titans in the seventh round. 

1204
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,200
You can get a little carry, 
lumber Story Goes, whichever 

1205
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,200
quarterback you prefer, right? 
Whether it be Weatherby 

1206
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,100
Tannehill, whether it be love, 
is whether it be strategy, 

1207
01:03:34,300 --> 01:03:36,200
you're only taken Stroud, right?
You're not. 

1208
01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:38,700
Taking a Titans quarterback 
right now, and I take a lot, I 

1209
01:03:38,707 --> 01:03:41,800
take a lot of shred right now. 
On grounds, a good thing right 

1210
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,300
now. 
An underdog Stroud is, how much 

1211
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:48,700
do I, what are you snacking with
Nico Nico? 

1212
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,800
You can do a little with 
Schultz. 

1213
01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:55,200
Honestly, you guys been you. 
You wouldn't even engage with 

1214
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,400
this on ship chasing, but I am 
taking some Robert Woods. 

1215
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,800
Yeah, no I'm not going to do 
that. 

1216
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,300
I'm not going to do that. 
But other words is 31 years old.

1217
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:06,700
He's now two years removed from 
an ACL tear and they gave him a 

1218
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:09,000
lot of money so he's going to 
make the team and he's going to 

1219
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,100
be out there and it wasn't like 
I said, it's probably fine, but 

1220
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:16,100
he was really bad last year, he 
was really bad last year. 

1221
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:18,900
That's true. 
But he was so boring here, often

1222
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:22,100
ACL, maybe he. 
Yeah but doesn't see racial 

1223
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:25,500
thing is good call on this 
table. 

1224
01:04:25,500 --> 01:04:27,400
Now that I've actually done some
drafts, a couple things I want 

1225
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,700
to highlight Last week on ship, 
chasing a talked a lot about 

1226
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:31,100
liking Washington. 
I haven't really been able to 

1227
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:33,800
build a ton of that, but I like 
where their players go and 

1228
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,100
different Pockets McLaren, and 
Dalton and Gibson. 

1229
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:39,000
Do you like do you like how? 
And then I like Halle. 

1230
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,200
I actually really liked how I 
think he's like a really easy so

1231
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,700
cheap play to answering the QB 
upside thing late because I do 

1232
01:04:45,700 --> 01:04:47,900
think they could be good. 
I think their skill positions 

1233
01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:50,000
can be really concentrated to, 
they don't have a wide receiver 

1234
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,800
for they don't have liked, I 
tend to they don't have a VAR B 

1235
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,700
3, so like they could be like 
Jacksonville in that regard, how

1236
01:04:55,700 --> 01:04:58,000
they became really concentrated 
last year, like everyone. 

1237
01:04:58,500 --> 01:05:01,200
Same guys are running every 
route, same five skill players 

1238
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,400
but what I like about no reason 
want to highlight it also the 

1239
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,600
Washington San Francisco thing. 
I have a hard time, clicking. 

1240
01:05:08,300 --> 01:05:11,600
Just generally some of the San 
Francisco guys early, it's 

1241
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,200
pretty steep price and you're 
worried about like well what if 

1242
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,800
trillion since I love Debo I 
love you this price. 

1243
01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:19,700
I do like Devon and Iva taken a 
decent amount of him but like to

1244
01:05:19,700 --> 01:05:21,500
take Depot or Kittle or 
whatever. 

1245
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:23,600
One of the reasons, one of the 
reasons I like to watch this 

1246
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,800
document more, is it gives me a 
reason to like take those guys? 

1247
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,100
I'm like, well, this is great. 
I can do a back door, wash. 

1248
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,200
Stack later and I'll have a 
one-off. 

1249
01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:31,700
You know. 
Can only reduce coverley. 

1250
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:34,200
I kind of like it. 
Why would you undertake Purdy? 

1251
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:41,400
Yeah. 
I think it's a decent idea and I

1252
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,800
think I will in some spots. 
I've actually taken one lance I 

1253
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,000
don't think I'm doing it enough.
I think I need to take more 

1254
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,700
Purdy. 
Yeah I think party does make 

1255
01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:51,300
sense. 
I had one that I had Depot and 

1256
01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:54,400
kittel and I ended up taking 
lanceolate on a 3qb build and I 

1257
01:05:54,408 --> 01:05:57,000
was like I should take a pretty 
was a fast draft but I should 

1258
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,200
take a pretty but so the other 
one I want to highlight was 

1259
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,000
Seattle, Pittsburgh similar Vibe
where I like I don't know if I 

1260
01:06:04,008 --> 01:06:05,900
love Metcalfe but I like the 
Walker price. 

1261
01:06:05,900 --> 01:06:07,400
I like the lock. 
Price that you guys were talking

1262
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,300
about and then Pittsburgh's are 
really easy. 

1263
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:11,500
One to bring back on the cheaper
side, my point, I'm trying to 

1264
01:06:11,508 --> 01:06:14,400
make is, you can make the 
expensive play on. 

1265
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,000
Some of these like concentrated 
more expensive offenses, and 

1266
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:21,400
they have a really nice viable, 
concentrated cheap bring back. 

1267
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,800
You don't even need to do a full
game SEC, just a correlated play

1268
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,500
with Pittsburgh, you can do them
in different areas of the draft.

1269
01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:28,200
I did a lot of Seattle 
Pittsburgh man. 

1270
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,100
That's when I hit firing with 
coming back or Pickens is in 

1271
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,500
that range where you're running 
out of receiver value or even 

1272
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:35,300
deante. 
Johnson is a really nice value. 

1273
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:39,600
The enthalpy lines up, really 
nice if you're on the back end 

1274
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,100
because you can get both Jason 
and lock it, you could have 

1275
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:45,500
gotten Metcalf there Deonte will
sometimes fall all the way to 

1276
01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:48,100
the end of the 7th so it all 
just kind of works. 

1277
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:52,300
Yeah I have several of like 
those combinations so far. 

1278
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,300
But I like these ones with, 
there's like one expensive 

1279
01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:59,300
concentrated offense and one 
really cheap offense. 

1280
01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:03,700
Oh Minnesota Green Bay's. 
Another one is like I think Pat 

1281
01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:06,400
I uploaded your ranks and 
shuffle them around the player 

1282
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,100
that I might have shuffled. 
The most was Romeo Dobbs. 

1283
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:11,100
You're really low on him, I 
don't get it. 

1284
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:14,400
I like I like him too. 
They're saying Jade reads, going

1285
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,500
to play slot. 
They've talked a lot about that 

1286
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:19,400
and all of the offseason stuff 
I've read is said Dobbs is like 

1287
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:22,200
it's Watson and Ops as their two
receivers and then Jaden reads 

1288
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,600
going to try to compete with 
that. 

1289
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,900
They're talking about him like 
he's a starting receiver and he 

1290
01:07:25,908 --> 01:07:28,500
was really good with Jordan love
in the preseason last year. 

1291
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:33,300
He's cheap like Get him outside 
the wide receiver window and as 

1292
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:36,100
a correlated peace with like a 
Jefferson team or Addison or a 

1293
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:40,000
Hawkinson pick, I really like 
like taking him to add to my 

1294
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,000
receiver death. 
When I'd like, don't get enough.

1295
01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:44,900
He's a guy that you're like I 
wanted to get your thoughts on 

1296
01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:45,900
him because you're kind of low 
on him. 

1297
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:48,200
Onion rings. 
Yeah, I am, I am somewhat low on

1298
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,800
him. 
My issue with Dobbs is that he 

1299
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,400
wasn't bad last year, but he 
wasn't particularly good. 

1300
01:07:54,500 --> 01:07:58,000
And they just drafted a sec 
around wide receiver who they 

1301
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,800
are saying, we'll start in the 
slot. 

1302
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:04,600
But they also mentioned several 
times and the post draft press 

1303
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,100
conference that they don't view 
him as a slot only player that 

1304
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:12,000
they think he can play outside. 
And if he does show that 

1305
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,400
ability, it's coming. 
I think directly at the expense 

1306
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,700
of Dobbs should have given good 
Watson. 

1307
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:19,899
I mean, Not only was very good 
as a rookie but has the draft 

1308
01:08:19,899 --> 01:08:22,600
got behind him and adds an 
element of the offense. 

1309
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,899
That is very valuable with that 
deep speed. 

1310
01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:27,399
So I don't think anyway like I'd
how does he come off the field 

1311
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:30,800
you know compared to Dobbs. 
So I think Read. 

1312
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,000
That was my early concern with 
Dobbs but all that stuff about 

1313
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,500
read playing the slot seems like
really ingrained even reads like

1314
01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:38,700
I'm going to be plan to Thomas 
Law. 

1315
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,000
Oh yeah yeah he'll definitely 
start in week 1 doing 

1316
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,200
projections I would lock in 
Dobbs for a Full Slate of routes

1317
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:48,899
playing it too wide receiver 
sets. 

1318
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:53,100
The issue is like is he even 
that good and does that 

1319
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:55,399
Disappear by the end of the 
season? 

1320
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:57,800
Sure. 
And now it's like I've got now I

1321
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,700
have Jordan loves wide receiver.
03. 

1322
01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:03,300
I'm just like, I'm just not that
into it. 

1323
01:09:03,300 --> 01:09:05,399
So yeah, yeah, that's my 
concern. 

1324
01:09:05,700 --> 01:09:08,200
That's a, that's a fair concern 
but the price of love, maybe 

1325
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,300
Jordan love is awesome though. 
He thought about it I can 

1326
01:09:12,300 --> 01:09:14,300
actually do take some Jordan 
love, but I like two things 

1327
01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:17,399
really love to what I get it. 
I like taking with greed is kind

1328
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:21,899
of the the, you know, Reed comes
on down the stretch and you know

1329
01:09:21,899 --> 01:09:25,200
kind of supercharges love a 
little bit and you know the 

1330
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,600
offense gets a little more fun 
and reads the cheapest. 

1331
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:30,899
So to me, I'm like I get who's 
the wide. 43 by the end of the 

1332
01:09:30,899 --> 01:09:34,800
year. 
I would say, I mean, maybe I'm 

1333
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,300
over overly confident and reads,
ability to get on the field. 

1334
01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:42,300
But I would put it about 50/50 
of who the wide receiver through

1335
01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:45,399
the number two outside wide 
receivers by the end of the 

1336
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:47,899
season. 
So give me the cheapest bet on 

1337
01:09:47,899 --> 01:09:51,200
that. 
I can see it. 

1338
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:56,100
Yeah, I mean II think I think 
Dobbs is good and Dobbs. 

1339
01:09:56,100 --> 01:10:00,100
I mean, Dobbs answered the like,
yeah, he had shitty draft 

1340
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:04,200
Capital but he also liked got on
the field and was playing and 

1341
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,800
helping them score points right 
away. 

1342
01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:07,800
Like, I don't know, I feel like 
that counts for something, 

1343
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,500
although maybe it doesn't 
because then they just spent 

1344
01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:13,600
like a bunch of second-round 
picks on tight ends and and wide

1345
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,600
receivers Reedus cheaper than 
Tom's but it's only twenty one 

1346
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:18,400
picks. 
I was just looking. 

1347
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,300
I mean tops is pretty cheap. 
A pan for like the fact that 

1348
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:23,900
he's gonna almost certainly, 
like you said play a lot week. 

1349
01:10:23,900 --> 01:10:27,400
One read could get brought along
a little bit slower. 

1350
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,000
I still like Dobbs production, 
profound College more to even 

1351
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,300
though he wasn't great year when
he did drum fall, you in your 

1352
01:10:32,300 --> 01:10:34,800
one just wasn't good from an 
efficiency perspective. 

1353
01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:37,000
Yeah. 
They both have kind of 

1354
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:40,700
interesting. 
Not perfect but you know kind of

1355
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:42,800
like you can squint and see it 
production profiles. 

1356
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,800
Yeah. 
But the drive Capital just so 

1357
01:10:44,808 --> 01:10:47,400
much better for for Reed. 
I think if he's flashing he's 

1358
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,700
going to get chances. 
Yeah, I know. 

1359
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,700
But they finally, I would like, 
I would like the Rams Giants 

1360
01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:59,400
game if it was in Los Angeles, 
but it being in New York, I just

1361
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,700
feel like we're going to get 
like 27 cam Akers carries. 

1362
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,000
Like I got a lot of 105 sand in 
that range, and ended up with a 

1363
01:11:06,008 --> 01:11:08,600
lot of Cup teams. 
And a couple of them are fast 

1364
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,800
drafts. 
I think already. 

1365
01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:13,200
And like, I just I didn't want 
to pull the trigger on any 

1366
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,300
Giants players late. 
I think it's time you before. 

1367
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:17,900
Well, I like it because you can 
backdoor it. 

1368
01:11:17,900 --> 01:11:19,800
You can do. 
Hi it. 

1369
01:11:19,900 --> 01:11:23,500
It Stafford to to, you know, 
whatever. 

1370
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:25,000
I mean, they're a billion guys, 
right? 

1371
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:29,300
Hodgins could be your guy wandel
because you guys well right now,

1372
01:11:29,300 --> 01:11:34,700
I don't, I think this is a, 
yeah, and I think the most bet 

1373
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:37,400
to make an on the Giants, 
particularly there's so many 

1374
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,000
names, it could be that I don't 
like, yeah, I bet one of them 

1375
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,700
hits but like, what are my odds 
of being right here? 

1376
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:45,300
Like it's just, it's a, it's a 
low probability bet. 

1377
01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:48,100
It feels like, so, this is, this
is potentially gonna be a very 

1378
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:50,400
bad week for me. 
If Dalvin cook Signs with the 

1379
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,800
Jets and DeAndre Hopkins signs 
with the Giants. 

1380
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,900
Because you know I have heard 
Giants fans being like we should

1381
01:11:57,900 --> 01:11:59,700
sign Hopkins or whatever. 
No way. 

1382
01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:01,800
Why would he? 
I know, I know will they would 

1383
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,600
do it to just ruin this take, 
which is that, I think, as a 

1384
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,200
Hodgins, is A Cut Above the Rest
of the Giants receivers, because

1385
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,300
he plays the X4 that he's going 
to be. 

1386
01:12:13,300 --> 01:12:16,900
He's he's the bigger body 
reliable guy in the intermediate

1387
01:12:16,900 --> 01:12:18,700
area. 
Well, they don't have anyone 

1388
01:12:18,700 --> 01:12:22,300
else who does the, I believe. 
With that that's Darren Waller, 

1389
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:24,900
I just did their projection. 
And I came to the idea that 

1390
01:12:24,900 --> 01:12:26,800
they're going to play during 
Waller, TX a lot and they're 

1391
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,400
going to play Bellinger in line 
and they're going to to tie-dyed

1392
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,000
sets. 
They did it a decent amount last

1393
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,700
year, even didn't even have 
tight end up like wohlers. 

1394
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:35,200
You think they're always playing
the axe. 

1395
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,500
I mean, he's never done that 
buddy. 

1396
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:39,100
That's what do you think his 
position is all? 

1397
01:12:39,100 --> 01:12:42,200
It was. 
Well, I mean maybe 10 years ago 

1398
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,400
he did I got a pulled up right 
now. 

1399
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,900
He's played at least 20% of his 
stamps, out wide every year of 

1400
01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:49,000
his career. 
I don't know if that's all like 

1401
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,700
accidents are They're coming. 
They're coming to a race against

1402
01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:54,900
press coverage. 
Yeah, they're I mean big and 

1403
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:57,100
fast. 
He's definitely play against 

1404
01:12:57,100 --> 01:12:59,200
Peter. 
I literally a Georgia Tech wide 

1405
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,900
receiver, dude, he was Calvin 
Johnson in college that he 

1406
01:13:01,900 --> 01:13:04,700
played the same position, same 
coach, all right, Darren Walker 

1407
01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:09,900
beaten press. 
I'm sorry, I'm sorry Express, 

1408
01:13:09,900 --> 01:13:15,200
I'm not like the biggest 
candidate for dude. 

1409
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,200
Just got paid got traded out of 
a shitty situation. 

1410
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,500
He is just going to chill balls 
as The 31 year old in New York 

1411
01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:23,700
like I could really just see 
Darren Waller playing eight 

1412
01:13:23,700 --> 01:13:25,900
games. 
This year suffer technology 

1413
01:13:25,900 --> 01:13:29,100
Vibes here, for sure. 
Yes, soft tissue. 

1414
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:32,700
It's have been reports of been 
good on him, that's so far and 

1415
01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:35,200
Kenny, golly reports. 
This time, last year were 

1416
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,500
horrendous, the New York Giants 
beat reporters. 

1417
01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:39,900
Don't mess around. 
They, they called, they called 

1418
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:41,100
him. 
I'll never forget it. 

1419
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:43,000
They called him a mannequin, 
they call. 

1420
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:54,500
Yeah, I called him, I would say 
that, I I trust table and who's 

1421
01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:58,900
the GM? 
JoJo, Shane. 

1422
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:04,000
Yeah, I trust those guys more in
their evaluation of while I'm 

1423
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,000
bringing them in and the 
previous regime and I actually 

1424
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,600
think probably that that's 
enough of a difference where 

1425
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:09,900
like I think they knew what they
were doing. 

1426
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:11,400
When they went got Waller 
they're going to use it 

1427
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,300
intelligently and I do think 
they were getting him as like a 

1428
01:14:14,308 --> 01:14:16,300
wide receiver. 
Not as a tight end necessarily 

1429
01:14:16,300 --> 01:14:18,400
like more is a wider, that's 
interesting. 

1430
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:23,200
I mean it doesn't sharp if you 
had 20% wall or primarily at The

1431
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,100
X and then you've got Hodgins 
Hodgins also, It into the slot, 

1432
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:29,500
some but I don't think, but 
those Snaps are blocked by, 

1433
01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:35,500
like, 80 dudes and they build 
the whole plane out of 59. 187 

1434
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:37,200
pounds. 
A lot wide receivers, right? 

1435
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,200
So you don't need Hodgins in the
slot anymore. 

1436
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,900
And then you've got, I think 
Slaton and high it or probably 

1437
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:47,200
your like best flanker type of 
options, you know, your speed 

1438
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,300
threat on the outside. 
They has guys probably 

1439
01:14:50,300 --> 01:14:53,100
cannibalize each other. 
They have redundancy at every 

1440
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:55,500
spot ultimately as what I was 
putting like. 

1441
01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:59,700
So, My little notes, I was like 
they have Waller and Hodgins are

1442
01:14:59,700 --> 01:15:02,200
sort of redundant there. 
They have hired as high a DOT 

1443
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,900
guy probably overlaps with 
slayton's roll. 

1444
01:15:03,900 --> 01:15:07,600
Some Campbell is obviously one 
to Robinson some and they also 

1445
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,300
Crowder. 
I mean, it's just like they've I

1446
01:15:10,300 --> 01:15:12,300
feel like they were trying to 
get depth for each of their 

1447
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:13,400
roles. 
And if you think about it, that 

1448
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:17,400
way Waller and Hodgins being the
same role, kind of makes sense. 

1449
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,900
But they'll be on the field 
together a lot. 

1450
01:15:19,900 --> 01:15:22,200
I think, I think they will too. 
Yeah, I think you're right about

1451
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,300
that. 
I'll while it will play in line 

1452
01:15:24,300 --> 01:15:26,600
some and Slot some and all Of 
that. 

1453
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:29,800
Yeah, I would say wouldn't you 
think he'd play slot the most 

1454
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:30,900
like that? 
He would be in the slot 

1455
01:15:30,900 --> 01:15:35,800
primarily but they I don't feel 
confident about that, right? 

1456
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,100
Well the other thing so many 
slot options and he's the guy 

1457
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:39,600
that's actually big and 
physical. 

1458
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,900
Like if you're thinking about it
from your the Huddle you're like

1459
01:15:41,900 --> 01:15:44,300
yeah this tiny 10 obviously guy 
this guy we're putting him in 

1460
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:46,400
the slot this giant there and 
all guy we're going to put you 

1461
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,600
on the outside. 
Well a lot of times with the 

1462
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,500
slot stuff like this happen with
mikasuki, all the time to in two

1463
01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:55,400
years ago on the Dolphins like 
he would play in the slot but it

1464
01:15:55,407 --> 01:15:58,200
didn't mean that. 
He was playing on like the left 

1465
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,900
side of the formation like they 
would play a slot wide receiver 

1466
01:16:01,900 --> 01:16:04,800
on the left side and then just 
split out kiseki off the line 

1467
01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:07,400
and essentially it's a 4 wide 
receiver set but you're using a 

1468
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,500
tight end. 
Yeah. 

1469
01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:10,500
I'm so I would imagine we see 
some of the guys that we saw how

1470
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:13,300
many four wide receiver sets 
they used in Buffalo. 

1471
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,900
So I would imagine you have some
of that we essentially have two 

1472
01:16:15,900 --> 01:16:19,800
slot receivers and one of them 
staring wallet Sure, that and 

1473
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:21,500
that's yeah. 
And then you have Hodgins in 

1474
01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:23,600
Slayton on the outside or 
whether you have Hodgins plating

1475
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,800
her or, you know, maybe you have
Paris Campbell and high it or 

1476
01:16:26,808 --> 01:16:31,300
whatever, who knows? 
But yeah, yeah, yeah, the Giants

1477
01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:32,200
are really interesting one. 
That's it. 

1478
01:16:32,208 --> 01:16:34,500
That's an interesting game. 
And I think getting it right, 

1479
01:16:34,500 --> 01:16:37,100
could be huge. 
I just, I have Hodgins as a guy,

1480
01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:39,200
I want it to be. 
I have a hard time once I did 

1481
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,800
the projection, like, figuring 
out who I actually think it will

1482
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,400
be. 
And whether these bets are like 

1483
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,000
the right that's to make Waller 
being the highest price free. 

1484
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:51,300
Guy with the higher ATP as well 
as probably the answer. 

1485
01:16:51,300 --> 01:16:52,800
Like I think on Sundays Cup 
team. 

1486
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,000
I do take some Waller Waller 
than I see my wall or two is 

1487
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,000
that you can get him in the 
seventh if you get cup, you can 

1488
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,600
get Waller in the seventh 
easily. 

1489
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,700
Like he's 80 piece of later in 
the seventh but he's not coming 

1490
01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:08,300
back and then that sets up 
Daniel Jones very easily for you

1491
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:11,400
and now all of a sudden you've 
got a quarterback with Mobility.

1492
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,200
Who've shown a ceiling last 
year. 

1493
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,000
He showed second here. 
It's just you touting. 

1494
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,500
Another guy that was on your 
winning team. 

1495
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,300
I mean, you guys, I mean, I 
would like to point out Wanda 

1496
01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:24,100
Robinson, also on my team and I 
don't tell Wanda Robinson, so 

1497
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,800
there is. 
And I also don't tell Sonny 

1498
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,500
Michelle. 
So, the only 16 of the 18 

1499
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:31,100
players I drafted, but once it, 
where active and well, if Sony 

1500
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:33,400
even on a team, right? 
You had to be active. 

1501
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:37,300
I think so, but now, but Daniel 
Jones. 

1502
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:40,700
Yeah, he's trying to ceiling. 
Not only as I met weeks, have a 

1503
01:17:40,700 --> 01:17:43,300
TV score, like, 38 points for 
you and then you had some other 

1504
01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:46,100
yet. 
He had some other points in 

1505
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:47,400
another couple Spike, Lee's 
other than that. 

1506
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,100
Unless I'm Losing my mind. 
But you know Mobility second 

1507
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:56,300
year in the system upgrades to 
the skill players, you know, to 

1508
01:17:56,300 --> 01:17:59,000
get him, he's guy that you can 
do a quick to quarterback build 

1509
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,300
with. 
I think if you, you probably 

1510
01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:02,400
need to take a guy pretty 
quickly after get a Gino or 

1511
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,400
something, but you can do that 
pretty easily. 

1512
01:18:06,900 --> 01:18:09,300
But Duke by do that, I mean 
building a game, Stack Up 

1513
01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:12,200
Waller, Daniel Jones. 
If you get locked out of some of

1514
01:18:12,208 --> 01:18:15,100
the more exciting stuff, it's 
just like there for you and then

1515
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:19,800
you can tackle and stuff on the 
back end so easily to, yeah, I 

1516
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,000
get it. 
Yeah, the other thing I think 

1517
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,800
you could just do naked cop. 
He's only two players. 

1518
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,000
I was thinking about this more 
and I was like yeah that game 

1519
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,200
could be a dud and cup can still
score 35 points like he can have

1520
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,100
140 yards. 
That's a bit. 

1521
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,200
Yeah, that is that it's a very 
good point. 

1522
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,400
Is that, that game can have 19 
points scored and cause it to 

1523
01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:38,900
expand that boy, to expand that 
point. 

1524
01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:41,400
As I've been drafting these, I'm
more comfortable doing that with

1525
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,100
the superstars. 
And I think the correlation and 

1526
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:47,600
the stacks for me is more about 
the cheaper pieces that I'm 

1527
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,200
trying to Tell myself a story 
on, I want to correlate that 

1528
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,000
stuff and then I'm minimizing 
the bets. 

1529
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,900
I have to get, right? 
But in the early rounds I think 

1530
01:18:53,900 --> 01:18:55,900
about some of the early stuff 
like I'm seeing AJ Brown, Golden

1531
01:18:55,900 --> 01:18:59,200
Top 5, which I've heard is 
because they want to get Devonte

1532
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,300
Smith in the second Jailer hurts
in the third. 

1533
01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:05,900
But now, like you don't have any
other pics until the late 4th of

1534
01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:08,700
any other team. 
That's a lot of really good 

1535
01:19:08,700 --> 01:19:12,400
players top, 40 players. 
You have zero exposure to no 

1536
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,300
ceiling built-in other than that
stack, I do think. 

1537
01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:16,800
Yeah, it's going to be unique 
and you're gonna have a lot of 

1538
01:19:16,808 --> 01:19:19,200
ceiling in that stack. 
The rest of your team is gonna 

1539
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,000
have to be really really good. 
And in all likelihood you're 

1540
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,700
probably going to want to be 
parlaying. 

1541
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:25,900
Some really good players in 
those first couple of rounds. 

1542
01:19:25,900 --> 01:19:27,400
At least the way that I'm 
thinking about it. 

1543
01:19:27,500 --> 01:19:31,300
I think it's weird to pay for 
really expensive Stacks only. 

1544
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,400
I like the stacking, the 
correlating when it comes to 

1545
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,500
cheaper pieces and then I'm 
minimizing the things I have to 

1546
01:19:35,500 --> 01:19:36,900
get right. 
The early rounds. 

1547
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:38,700
I almost don't want to minimize 
the things I have to get, right?

1548
01:19:38,700 --> 01:19:42,000
Actually, want multiple guys 
that are like differentiating 

1549
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,400
me. 
Like I have this combination of 

1550
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,900
the three best players from the 
top 50 picks right? 

1551
01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:49,600
Like, well also Sunday, three 
some players. 

1552
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,900
Some players are going to be 
more sensitive to correlation 

1553
01:19:52,900 --> 01:19:56,400
than others, right. 
Drew also true like like so like

1554
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:02,000
brain and I you, I think is a 
great pairing with Purdy because

1555
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,300
I you ceiling is little too, 
right? 

1556
01:20:04,700 --> 01:20:06,500
Yeah, right. 
I've ceiling is like, okay. 

1557
01:20:06,500 --> 01:20:09,700
Well, Purdy's got to be good. 
Lance can't be the quarterback. 

1558
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,100
Maybe Debo gets nicked up. 
Maybe McCaffrey gets nicked up 

1559
01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:15,000
for whatever reason. 
Like I don't think, I don't 

1560
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,900
think you. 
I think see him. 

1561
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:22,000
The IU Kettle is like dead. 
Like that team is like incapable

1562
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,200
of winning. 
Right. 

1563
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,300
Because it's like if CMC is 
getting 31 and week 17 George 

1564
01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:31,100
kittel had a classic George 
kid'll 3437, right? 

1565
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,000
Like almost for sure well I 
wouldn't say it's dead because 

1566
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,100
kiddo could have gotten you 
there. 

1567
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,900
Well Trent, you know, you're 
such a dick like I had kids like

1568
01:20:40,900 --> 01:20:41,900
that's exactly what happened to 
me. 

1569
01:20:41,900 --> 01:20:46,100
Is like kid'll scored 10 points 
in week. 17, If he if I he 

1570
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:47,900
scored a zero I had get sticky 
squirted. 

1571
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,100
Touchdown who would hit my line 
up and I didn't wouldn't have 

1572
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:52,000
cost me anything but kiddo got 
me there. 

1573
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,400
Sure. 
Fair enough. 

1574
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,200
So it is its price sensitive. 
But what you're saying about the

1575
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,900
Devante smith thing? 
I mean that is tough because 

1576
01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:03,400
like Smith and Aja Brown weren't
necessarily getting there 

1577
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:04,900
together last year. 
All that. 

1578
01:21:04,900 --> 01:21:08,200
Well, like it was more like 
Smith was kind of the guy who's 

1579
01:21:08,900 --> 01:21:11,400
got a pretty isolate every week 
but AG Brown had the nuclear 

1580
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,300
ceiling. 
And when he went nuclear, but 

1581
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:16,600
wasn't necessarily a great week 
to have spent all the time. 

1582
01:21:17,900 --> 01:21:23,200
But that, that is a spot where 
it's like a got you there, so 

1583
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,900
it's fine. 
Yeah, you know, but it's more 

1584
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:27,000
expensive than I get what been 
saying. 

1585
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,200
Like, you love to have ideally 
your first three picks all score

1586
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:37,300
30 points in week 17 and it's 
unlikely that that both those 

1587
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:39,800
receivers score 30 points. 
In the same fact they probably 

1588
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,300
won't. 
Right, right? 

1589
01:21:41,300 --> 01:21:43,500
Right. 
And I mean, if we're also 

1590
01:21:43,500 --> 01:21:45,800
talking about a landscape where 
people are correlating way more,

1591
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,700
like I'm I'm I'm coming into 
this late. 

1592
01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:51,000
I'm some sort of trying to be 
like, how can I differentiate, 

1593
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:52,900
how can I find an edge? 
That's not there. 

1594
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,200
For well, you just we're still 
early on all this stuff though. 

1595
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,300
I think, I don't think you need 
to like be outsmarting the 

1596
01:21:59,300 --> 01:22:01,300
correlation Bros, like you can 
put some of the stuff. 

1597
01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:03,300
Like, I mean, I know you're not 
supposed to recent correlation 

1598
01:22:03,300 --> 01:22:04,700
anyway. 
So if you get good value, then 

1599
01:22:04,700 --> 01:22:06,200
you do it. 
But like, especially with some, 

1600
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:07,600
anything has talked about this, 
with the running backs. 

1601
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,900
Like I was saying it took a lot 
of room, Andre, I think part of 

1602
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,200
how Ramon Drake is the guy you 
want. 

1603
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:13,400
In the New England, Buffalo 
game. 

1604
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,700
In week 17, there are ways that 
he's a part of a shootout but 

1605
01:22:16,700 --> 01:22:19,900
like if New England actually 
like wins that game, like way 

1606
01:22:19,900 --> 01:22:22,000
less way less likely though, 
right? 

1607
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,900
Like Ramon, Drake worm Andre 
It's, I mean, it's the same 

1608
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:29,100
thing for Henry. 
I think it's the same thing for 

1609
01:22:30,300 --> 01:22:33,600
Kenny Walker and week, 17, 
against all yours is less, 

1610
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,800
likely, they're part of a 
shootout, it's more likely, they

1611
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,400
are dominating the game. 
And I'm saying, I'm saying, with

1612
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,800
the running backs, where a lot 
of their were you're thinking 

1613
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,500
about a lot of their upside 
being in touchdowns and even for

1614
01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:48,400
even for guys who we like we're 
mandra who we think will catch 

1615
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,500
passes or whatever, it's still 
better for them to score 

1616
01:22:50,500 --> 01:22:52,200
touchdowns in this scoring 
system. 

1617
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,900
You would if I offered you Right
now I could say week 17 the 

1618
01:22:55,900 --> 01:22:58,800
running back you just you 
drafted gets four carries inside

1619
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,600
the five or eight targets. 
You're taking four carries 

1620
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,600
inside the five ten out of ten 
times in Underdog scoring. 

1621
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:09,100
Now DraftKings I've actually I 
think you need to I think you 

1622
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:11,300
need to consciously be drafting 
a little bit differently on 

1623
01:23:11,300 --> 01:23:16,400
DraftKings because Seco on 
Berkeley say Quan Berkeley 

1624
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,600
getting 12 Targets in a game 
that the Rams end up getting 

1625
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,500
ahead because to to out well 
scored a 70 yard touchdown. 

1626
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,800
On a Flea Flicker on the opening
play. 

1627
01:23:25,900 --> 01:23:30,000
Well, is that that works? 
All right, now we're defense 

1628
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,700
fiction. 
You guys are using his profile. 

1629
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,200
The storm the to to have you not
been seen the clips coming out 

1630
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,300
of rams Camp, dude. 
There he is into two down the 

1631
01:23:39,300 --> 01:23:41,400
field buddy. 
The storm is coming. 

1632
01:23:41,900 --> 01:23:56,300
Are we gonna get out? 
He's like, he's a duster, you 

1633
01:23:56,308 --> 01:24:00,800
know, it's a light dusting, it's
a light down here to they did a 

1634
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,800
good. 
This is just a single cloud. 

1635
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:08,100
They showed a clip of him the 
other day. 

1636
01:24:08,900 --> 01:24:12,600
Hi pointing a ball in between, 
like, in between two Defenders, 

1637
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,600
I gotta go find my man, high 
five. 

1638
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:20,700
Well, hi pointing imagine. 
Imagine you're an NFL Defender 

1639
01:24:20,700 --> 01:24:24,300
and you just got Moss by 22 out.
Well, you gotta just you got to 

1640
01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:26,900
take off, you got to take off 
your cleats you guys do. 

1641
01:24:26,900 --> 01:24:29,200
Well it's just retired pointing 
of football. 

1642
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:34,700
Three yards off of this does 
Seem viable. 

1643
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:40,000
No, it's yeah. 
I mean I'll go dig for it. 

1644
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:41,600
I'll go dig for it. 
I'll find it. 

1645
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,600
It's beautiful point. 
Being I don't know, I don't 

1646
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,700
know. 
Yeah, the same was, if I think 

1647
01:24:49,900 --> 01:24:52,800
Andre, I don't feel the need to 
get, but you're already not 

1648
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:58,200
getting digs in the third round 
on your team or something would 

1649
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,600
be kind of cool. 
But like, you're already not 

1650
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,700
getting the best piece of 
Buffalo and it's like, I don't 

1651
01:25:01,700 --> 01:25:03,900
really feel like I have to jam 
Buffalo into that. 

1652
01:25:03,900 --> 01:25:06,300
I wouldn't mind taking an ox or 
whatever and still getting some 

1653
01:25:06,300 --> 01:25:07,700
type of a little correlation 
there. 

1654
01:25:07,700 --> 01:25:12,100
But remonda is it dude that I 
don't like a paying a lot for 

1655
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:16,100
him and for him to hit a ceiling
he's like New England's, good 

1656
01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:17,700
and there. 
Running The Bold and they're 

1657
01:25:17,700 --> 01:25:21,400
playing their type of football. 
And he's like the main guy that 

1658
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,100
scores points in a lot of their 
games. 

1659
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:26,200
And then in week 17, he can like
be part of the reason that 

1660
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,000
Buffalo teams fail in the week. 
17, I want other correlations 

1661
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,500
out here and my Ramon. 
Dre, you know, game is greatest 

1662
01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:36,300
when you display this video. 
Kareem, I want people to know. 

1663
01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:38,400
I'm not making this up. 
Yeah, it's real. 

1664
01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:41,500
I just I put in our private chat
private chat, okay? 

1665
01:25:41,900 --> 01:25:47,200
Yeah. 
I just, I want, I but Ben, I 

1666
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,700
think to your point, I just 
think the idea is you just need 

1667
01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:52,000
to be conscious of the 
correlations, you're making is 

1668
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,300
just not enough that you guys 
are playing each other. 

1669
01:25:54,500 --> 01:25:57,800
Like, for example, can't really 
think of a worse correlation 

1670
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,500
that Derrick, Henry, and Damien 
pierce the chances of those two 

1671
01:26:00,500 --> 01:26:02,000
guys, write getting there and 
weeks at. 

1672
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,300
It's like, it's literally 
impossible. 

1673
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:07,800
Look at this play, Come on, come
on. 

1674
01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:33,900
It's body control dude, 
here to practice squad, 

1675
01:26:33,900 --> 01:26:44,100
defensive backs. 
Not going to give to to credit 

1676
01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:46,900
for making this play. 
You are, you cannot be trusted. 

1677
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,000
You can you cannot? 
You cannot. 

1678
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,000
I cannot trust you guys to give 
level-headed analysis on him. 

1679
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,700
If you can't count this as a 
good play, this is taking to do 

1680
01:26:57,700 --> 01:26:59,000
at. 
Well, I'm not even answer. 

1681
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,600
Alright, so that is a hype. 
That is a high point well for to

1682
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,400
do at. 
Well it is your 22 at while that

1683
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,800
is a high point, it got it at 
the the height of the referee. 

1684
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,400
Yeah they're you're right. 
This is a high point for 22 at 

1685
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,300
well and he's barely above the 
defender. 

1686
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,000
That's the that's the thesis. 
That's right. 

1687
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,900
What you're watching what you're
watching is is the thesis. 

1688
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,300
Okay. 
Oh that's beautiful. 

1689
01:27:33,300 --> 01:27:37,300
I want to just circle back to 
Ben's point on cheap correlates 

1690
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:41,500
because I think it's a good one 
I think if your Betting on a 

1691
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:43,200
bunch of guys from the same 
team. 

1692
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,900
The Texans are one that I like 
for this. 

1693
01:27:44,900 --> 01:27:48,300
You know, you just kind of can 
scoop up a bunch of cheap dudes 

1694
01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:51,200
or whatever and you're getting 
you're getting not only the week

1695
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,300
17 stuff. 
But just like what if the Texans

1696
01:27:53,300 --> 01:27:55,700
are like the 18th best offense 
in the NFL? 

1697
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,800
Yes. 
What if the Texans are decent? 

1698
01:27:57,900 --> 01:28:00,800
And then this is this is 
something with the week. 17 

1699
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,200
stuff. 
Like you do not need to be 

1700
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,000
perfect and week 17, I think you
can basically be, you can be 

1701
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,900
directionally accurate. 
Like, you know, if you correctly

1702
01:28:09,900 --> 01:28:13,300
predict it, there are It's in 
that game and that there are 

1703
01:28:13,300 --> 01:28:17,000
going to be like touchdowns from
cheap players in that game. 

1704
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,800
So hard, not to use the example 
from your team last year. 

1705
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:26,100
I don't remember you talking 
about, I don't remember it. 

1706
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:29,100
I don't remember the Brady. 
You didn't have Evan. 

1707
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:31,900
No, it wasn't pretty. 
No, I wasn't ready, he didn't 

1708
01:28:31,900 --> 01:28:36,200
have happens, right? 
It was Godwin know you had God 

1709
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,600
would not Evans and Evans was 
the smash but you had. 

1710
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,600
That's not what I mean. 
I'm talking about taking guys. 

1711
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,700
Like in the super late rounds, 
where you can like a couple of 

1712
01:28:43,708 --> 01:28:45,700
them don't do anything, but some
of them do. 

1713
01:28:45,700 --> 01:28:48,300
And it's and you happen to be in
the right game environment or 

1714
01:28:48,300 --> 01:28:50,500
betting on the right offense, 
like that offense. 

1715
01:28:50,500 --> 01:28:52,800
We saw this with the Jaguars 
last year who I didn't draft on 

1716
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,900
my team and, you know, the 
Jaguars, they all kind of got 

1717
01:28:55,900 --> 01:29:01,400
there with cheaper atp's and, 
you know, then it wasn't week 17

1718
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,400
because Lawrence had a dud, but,
you know, say Jones had a 

1719
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,000
absolute smash week in week 15, 
you know, that if that had been 

1720
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,800
week 16, right, like or week, 
And then you would have 

1721
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,600
absolutely had to have say Jones
so yeah, some of this stuff. 

1722
01:29:15,500 --> 01:29:17,000
Obviously it's just like highly 
variant. 

1723
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,500
But if you bet on a bunch of 
guys from the same offense, it 

1724
01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:23,000
really cheap cost. 
Then you benefit if they all get

1725
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:24,400
there together with the course 
of the season. 

1726
01:29:24,500 --> 01:29:26,600
And then if there's points then 
week 17 games, you have a bunch 

1727
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,900
of different outs to being on 
the right guy. 

1728
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,800
The reason I'm giving you crap 
about that is, I actually was 

1729
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,800
thinking about this when I was 
mocking up, the steak is like, 

1730
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,000
that's how Pat's team is built, 
like, your stocks were the 

1731
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,400
cheaper stacks and we talked 
about stacks and we talked about

1732
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,700
it like, DFS we talked about 
Out, limiting the number of 

1733
01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:43,700
things you get, right? 
But we also talked in DFS 

1734
01:29:43,700 --> 01:29:46,000
sometimes about how it's very 
difficult to pay for the really 

1735
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,800
like to pay for my home's. 
Tyreke and Kelsey a couple years

1736
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,900
ago was really tough because you
would like you so much of your 

1737
01:29:52,300 --> 01:29:54,800
of your salary cap on that 
really expensive stack. 

1738
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,400
Yeah, could differentiate you 
but you still probably didn't 

1739
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,500
win because you can't get enough
ceiling out of the rest of your 

1740
01:29:59,500 --> 01:30:03,700
salary cap, but it's not that 
easy to do in India Fest about 

1741
01:30:03,700 --> 01:30:06,700
the lineup and similar from Alec
like, like Davis was saying 

1742
01:30:06,700 --> 01:30:08,900
earlier, if we think about like 
an auction dollars, you're using

1743
01:30:08,900 --> 01:30:11,600
50% of your option dollars. 
When you go, One, two, three in 

1744
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,600
the same offense, the rest of 
your draft is like there's just 

1745
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:18,500
not enough. 
Upside in the rest of that. 

1746
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:22,300
Anyway you're missing out on a 
lot of other opportunity costs 

1747
01:30:22,300 --> 01:30:24,900
on high price players. 
In the early rounds that same as

1748
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:27,100
DFS, you're not able to pay for 
a lot of other high price 

1749
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:29,900
Players, when you're one, stack 
takes up half your cap. 

1750
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:36,000
So I think the getting getting 
fewer things right, applies on 

1751
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,000
the thinner, bets more than it 
does on all the good vets like 

1752
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,700
atp's pretty sharp on the top 
50, like all of those are good, 

1753
01:30:41,700 --> 01:30:43,700
pets. 
Independent of correlating, 

1754
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,900
like, those are going to years, 
you Here's one spot where I 

1755
01:30:46,900 --> 01:30:49,100
would it's sort of. 
I don't think I'm even 

1756
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:51,200
disagreeing but it's just a 
different thing. 

1757
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,900
If you are taking the elite 
quarterbacks that you're going 

1758
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:56,800
to want them to have 
particularly I mean if you're 

1759
01:30:57,100 --> 01:31:00,400
betting on like Mahomes or 
Borough, like they're not 

1760
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,100
getting their solo, like they're
getting their head. 

1761
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:06,100
I have those guys unstack, the 
difference in the difference. 

1762
01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:10,500
In best ball versus DFS is that 
in DFS you have to choose 

1763
01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:13,900
between bought a scantling, 
Richie James, Justin Watson 

1764
01:31:13,900 --> 01:31:17,200
could area Stony, right. 
Guy more Rishi rice. 

1765
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,800
Whereas in, I mean, 
theoretically, you could 

1766
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,800
literally take for Chiefs wide 
receivers. 

1767
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:27,400
Like after pick a hundred and 
ten percent, I'm cool with that.

1768
01:31:27,500 --> 01:31:29,100
Yeah, that actually makes a lot 
of sense. 

1769
01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:32,300
I think if you're going to take 
them home and then just go load 

1770
01:31:32,300 --> 01:31:34,200
up. 
I don't actually think it's good

1771
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,600
because like not all those guys 
can make the team. 

1772
01:31:36,900 --> 01:31:39,600
Right. 
Although I guess cream on 21. 

1773
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:40,900
Justin Ross is active. 
Yeah. 

1774
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,100
The Justin Ross Opie. 
Let's do it. 

1775
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,700
I mean, if Justin Ross makes the
team, Justin Watson can't be on 

1776
01:31:49,700 --> 01:31:53,200
the team, right? 
It's right, right. 

1777
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,200
And then they give him, like, 
almost as much money as you made

1778
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,900
last year, guaranteed. 
I don't know. 

1779
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,600
I feel like they guaranteed his 
contract. 

1780
01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:07,500
I think, really, the other thing
is, I actually just isn't Richie

1781
01:32:07,500 --> 01:32:10,600
James, a punt. 
Returner are my new sobering 

1782
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:14,400
that so that as someone as 
someone who was forced to watch 

1783
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,600
Sky, that's got more as someone 
who was forced to watch. 

1784
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,500
Sky more returned. 
Punts last year, I feel like, 

1785
01:32:19,500 --> 01:32:21,700
Richie, James, just being a 
competent punt. 

1786
01:32:21,700 --> 01:32:25,200
Returner might make it much more
likely than the market is saying

1787
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,500
right now that he makes the team
because the Chiefs straight up 

1788
01:32:28,500 --> 01:32:30,400
lost. 
A game against the Colts in the 

1789
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,600
regular season because of their 
special teams. 

1790
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:37,100
I don't I don't I think I think 
they're going to take, I think 

1791
01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:48,800
he's well which is that James 
makes the team Sky. 

1792
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:52,000
More is going to have a rough 
year too. 

1793
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:58,100
I think that was so this will 
cast two getting called ship 

1794
01:32:58,100 --> 01:33:00,600
chasing ship. 
It sucks. 

1795
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,700
I'm sorry. 
I'm gonna steal it because it's 

1796
01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:05,900
so funny. 
I mean although I was talking to

1797
01:33:05,900 --> 01:33:10,100
Eric eager from Sumer Sports the
other day he actually cuz he's 

1798
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:12,700
not as in the weeds with the the
fantasy nerd stuff. 

1799
01:33:12,700 --> 01:33:16,700
So he he wasn't as angry at Sky 
more on producing in year one. 

1800
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,000
He actually gave a kind of 
bullish take on sky-high. 

1801
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,200
I know I listen that was a good 
show SkyWars. 

1802
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:23,700
Definitely a good pick right 
now. 

1803
01:33:24,500 --> 01:33:28,400
He is I don't I 0 I was all the 
way out like three weeks ago and

1804
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,000
The more I've thought about it. 
This is where I've landed which 

1805
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,900
is that there's were actually 
really no difference between Sky

1806
01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:37,000
more and canaries Tony, it's 
just whichever one it like if 

1807
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,500
either of them happens to be 
good it's your you're going to 

1808
01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:44,300
get rewarded. 
Like if Sky more can earn 120 

1809
01:33:44,300 --> 01:33:48,100
Targets this year. 
It's a bigger thing is awesome, 

1810
01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:50,000
is possible. 
My bigger thing on the Moor is 

1811
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,200
again this wide receiver window 
that slams, shut there are 

1812
01:33:52,500 --> 01:33:55,500
precious few profiles after the 
ninth or tenth round, right? 

1813
01:33:55,500 --> 01:33:58,900
And you get a, if you didn't get
enough receiver depth II, 

1814
01:33:58,900 --> 01:34:01,900
absolutely thinks kind warm is a
viable like wide receiver, for 

1815
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,000
it's a reason to get that wide 
receiver depth. 

1816
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,700
Oh yes, it's not it's not 
something you want to have to 

1817
01:34:06,708 --> 01:34:09,900
depend a lot of he's great. 
But it does have the requisite 

1818
01:34:09,900 --> 01:34:13,700
upside that can can fix a bill. 
Basically and there's not a lot 

1819
01:34:13,700 --> 01:34:16,300
of guys at that point, that have
that type of site like it. 

1820
01:34:16,500 --> 01:34:19,300
Possible you go. 
The thing that sold me early in 

1821
01:34:19,300 --> 01:34:22,000
the offseason was somebody and I
can't remember who to credit. 

1822
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,100
But somebody saying basically 
all throughout injuries, entire 

1823
01:34:25,100 --> 01:34:27,700
coaching career, he's never had 
a rookie receiver, do anything 

1824
01:34:27,700 --> 01:34:30,500
like he's never pushed rookie 
receivers into big roles. 

1825
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,300
For like, dating back to the 
Eagles, it's taken time to learn

1826
01:34:35,300 --> 01:34:38,700
the offense and those things. 
And the yeah, more hardened, 

1827
01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:41,700
Hardman actually played more as 
a rookie than in any other year 

1828
01:34:41,700 --> 01:34:44,300
of his career. 
That was due to a Tyree kill 

1829
01:34:44,300 --> 01:34:46,700
injury and a very specific skill
set and it was a, you know, we 

1830
01:34:46,700 --> 01:34:48,800
need to speed in our offense. 
Yeah. 

1831
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,800
And then and then when Tyree 
kill came back hardman's. 

1832
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,700
Roll like completely dissipated 
even though he had been 

1833
01:34:54,700 --> 01:34:58,800
producing well, son, I would say
one could argue the Chiefs 

1834
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,600
having zero good wide receivers 
last Here would have been a good

1835
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:03,800
reason. 
A place guy more. 

1836
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:07,100
Like, they're they're out there.
Like there was a there was a 

1837
01:35:07,108 --> 01:35:11,200
stretch where Marcus Kemp was 
getting snaps and Sky more was 

1838
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,300
on the bench. 
Yeah, it's so it's definitely 

1839
01:35:14,300 --> 01:35:17,100
Juju Juju stunk last year like 
he had it. 

1840
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:19,400
Well, that's where you're like, 
okay, I'll just a little bit of 

1841
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,800
a revisionist history, he got 
hurt and then he stunk, he got 

1842
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,200
he got injured and like I want 
to say week 7 and kept playing, 

1843
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:30,500
but it was like he was 
irredeemable after that point. 

1844
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:31,400
Yeah. 
Right. 

1845
01:35:31,500 --> 01:35:34,100
Maybe unfair to Juju the 
professional wide receiver. 

1846
01:35:34,100 --> 01:35:37,500
But I don't think unfair to the 
idea that like, no, no, I had a 

1847
01:35:37,508 --> 01:35:39,800
window to get on the field and 
didn't take it. 

1848
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:41,700
Yes, I don't know what you guys 
are talking about. 

1849
01:35:41,700 --> 01:35:44,200
He scored a touchdown this game,
a love game. 

1850
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,700
Winning Super Bowl touchdown 
well so did so did it was so did

1851
01:35:47,700 --> 01:35:50,200
Tony and the only play was 
called her Tony. 

1852
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,900
I wanted one thing that keeps 
coming. 

1853
01:35:53,900 --> 01:35:57,000
This is not fantasy football 
related but if Scott if Tony 

1854
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,100
would have just scored that 
touchdown the punt return 

1855
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:01,300
instead of getting tackled on 
the floor. 

1856
01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:04,300
For all of us, when our hundred 
to one killer is Tony Super 

1857
01:36:04,300 --> 01:36:07,800
Bowl, MVP vets and we'd all have
a lot more money and I hold 

1858
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,000
still would have want it and you
would have been no one. 

1859
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:16,400
You know you think that you 
think that Gretch but what would

1860
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,700
could areas Tony's touchdown of 
them first punt return touchdown

1861
01:36:19,700 --> 01:36:21,100
ever in the history of the Super
Bowl? 

1862
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,500
The voters, the voters are 
giving it to him for they had 

1863
01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:38,600
one other Touch One Target one, 
Got to get in the mind of a 

1864
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:43,900
Super Bowl MVP in their mind. 
That's a Percy Harvin take and 

1865
01:36:43,900 --> 01:36:46,700
they gave it to Malcolm Brown in
that Seahawks Super Bowl and 

1866
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,300
again, welcome Brown because he 
made like one of the most 

1867
01:36:49,300 --> 01:36:53,400
memorable plays in NFL history. 
What was it? 

1868
01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:57,100
I mean, that's, that's true. 
I don't remember an interception

1869
01:36:57,100 --> 01:36:59,000
the intercept. 
Oh, that wasn't at the Super 

1870
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,800
Bowl. 
That was in the NFC championship

1871
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,400
game against the Niners. 
When Richard Sherman tipped, it 

1872
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,600
to him. 
No, he's still on the scene at 

1873
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,100
the play. 
Where are you grunts? 

1874
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:10,000
Are you drunk? 
They weren't even, they didn't 

1875
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,600
run the ball. 
Have you bought this out when 

1876
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,900
they didn't run the ball with 
Marshawn Lynch and they pass it 

1877
01:37:14,900 --> 01:37:17,300
and he intercepted it Malcolm 
Brown. 

1878
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,600
Oh, now what about Malcolm 
Butler? 

1879
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,300
You guys are talking about 
Malcolm Butler. 

1880
01:37:23,300 --> 01:37:31,900
I'm talking about Bobby Wagner 
know who won Super Bowl MVP for 

1881
01:37:31,900 --> 01:37:33,500
the Seahawks. 
It was a linebacker. 

1882
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:37,800
Well I don't know I literally do
not I literally do not remember 

1883
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:47,300
this. 2013 Super Bowl the MVP. 
They not listen on pro football 

1884
01:37:47,300 --> 01:37:50,500
reference. 
What what the hell was his name?

1885
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:54,200
I'm looking at them. 
Nice guys, the Super Bowl 80 

1886
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,600
Malcolm Smith, Malcolm Thomas 
Smith, Michael Brown Malcolm 

1887
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:01,300
Smith, they gave it to her uncle
Malcolm around. 

1888
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:06,200
We're so far off throws Malcolm 
Brown was the rabbits running 

1889
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:10,100
back, who scored two touchdowns 
in week, one in 2018, because 

1890
01:38:10,300 --> 01:38:12,700
Look there to Malcolm Brown. 
So that's why I let it go 

1891
01:38:12,700 --> 01:38:14,500
because there was, yeah, it was 
like, oh, there's two Malcolm 

1892
01:38:14,500 --> 01:38:15,300
Brown. 
So one at. 

1893
01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:16,800
So, not the running back must 
have. 

1894
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,900
Oh my god. 
Dude, he had an interception 

1895
01:38:19,900 --> 01:38:23,200
return for a TD. 
That's their hair. 

1896
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:26,200
Is there is a chance that this 
show is jump the shark, 

1897
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:32,000
including just to Circle that 
back to this including to punt. 

1898
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,700
Returns could Darius Tony played
Seven snaps in the Super Bowl. 

1899
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:42,500
I'm just telling you guys, I 
feel what they 100% degree of 

1900
01:38:42,500 --> 01:38:44,100
certainty. 
If he scored the first punt 

1901
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:48,100
return touchdown NFL history to 
tilt that game, which it did the

1902
01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:50,100
return. 
Did anyway, he's winning Super 

1903
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:54,100
Bowl MVP. 
I don't care. 

1904
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:58,100
You can't tell me any 
differently, it's 100%. 

1905
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:09,600
You gotta get that guy, which is
remember that NFL play. 

1906
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:17,300
Yeah, that almost won me money. 
Let's move to slide 4. 

1907
01:39:17,300 --> 01:39:19,100
We are now halfway through the 
slides. 

1908
01:39:19,900 --> 01:39:22,800
We are going to the double 
stuffed cabbage, a deep east, 

1909
01:39:24,100 --> 01:39:28,000
Anything jump out here, who's 
you should not about to be on 

1910
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,600
after the weekend where I like 
went on a vacation and got a 

1911
01:39:30,608 --> 01:39:32,000
draft under. 
No, I mean it's actually been 

1912
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,100
amazing, but what you do is I'm 
gonna show you guys you guys 

1913
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:39,000
like taking Aaron Rodgers with 
Garrett Wilson or do you just 

1914
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,800
like to let the Vibes dictate? 
I because I don't like taking 

1915
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,900
here in Rogers, right? 
I'm not drafted him yet, I'll 

1916
01:39:44,900 --> 01:39:47,200
take him some. 
I mean, because I don't, I don't

1917
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:50,900
love clicking Lazard because I 
think, oh, yeah, I hear what 

1918
01:39:50,900 --> 01:39:53,100
he's like, one of the most 
useless players in the NFL. 

1919
01:39:53,300 --> 01:39:56,400
Well, but I also don't like 
clicking McColl Hardman who I 

1920
01:39:56,407 --> 01:39:58,700
think Ashley has. 
He used in this offense? 

1921
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,400
But I think going to be, he's 
gonna be part time for sure. 

1922
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,100
He's gonna be he's gonna be like
art with third and 7. 

1923
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:06,400
We need a guy to like, do this 
gadget. 

1924
01:40:06,500 --> 01:40:08,900
When Robin get us five yards in 
the second half. 

1925
01:40:08,900 --> 01:40:10,900
I want to take a deep shop you 
go have, you know? 

1926
01:40:10,900 --> 01:40:14,900
Like he does that sometimes 
really far down field like the 

1927
01:40:14,907 --> 01:40:17,600
Christian Watson from last year,
early, early Christian Watson? 

1928
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:22,000
Yeah, first play of the Season. 
He dropped that long touchdown, 

1929
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,100
right, that'll be me. 
Harmon running that cat chat has

1930
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:26,700
this right? 
Which is that Conklin is the 

1931
01:40:26,700 --> 01:40:28,800
right guy to battle inoculants 
the right guy. 

1932
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:33,300
Kang considerate guy. 
Yeah but I hate the brown side 

1933
01:40:33,300 --> 01:40:36,200
of that to I don't particularly 
like being in on the Browns. 

1934
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:37,900
I didn't either prices. 
You know. 

1935
01:40:37,900 --> 01:40:39,600
You know what? 
Yeah well sighs another one that

1936
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,000
I think as an early round guy 
you can be like he's just gonna 

1937
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:44,500
smash. 
Even if he doesn't have like a 

1938
01:40:44,500 --> 01:40:47,800
shootout week 17, he's gonna 
have a 15 Target game. 

1939
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:49,700
You can tell yourself that 
story, I think. 

1940
01:40:50,300 --> 01:40:52,900
Here's a stack. 
I'm like purposely going into 

1941
01:40:52,900 --> 01:40:56,100
drafts, trying to get the New 
Orleans Saints. 

1942
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,900
They have this easy ass 
schedule. 

1943
01:41:00,300 --> 01:41:05,300
They play 11 Dome games and they
play a team that is going to be 

1944
01:41:05,500 --> 01:41:09,900
unequivocally, have given up by 
week, 17, in the Tampa Bay 

1945
01:41:09,900 --> 01:41:16,100
Buccaneers like olave, Derek 
Carr and it's like car sucks 

1946
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:19,300
obviously. 
But he has he's always he's 

1947
01:41:19,300 --> 01:41:21,600
patted his Numbers always to, 
right? 

1948
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:23,600
I mean, but you can't take taste
them in this. 

1949
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,500
Yes, you can why Justin? 
Yeah, yes, you can. 

1950
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:52,000
Yes. 
So left brain injury Miller, and

1951
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,100
Derek are together curve. 
Yeah, he's a ride back with 

1952
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,400
another, take jajuan, Johnson at
the same ATP. 

1953
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,000
Like they're right next to each 
other Basin. 

1954
01:41:59,700 --> 01:42:03,700
No, give me the one Johnson 
literally in a million years. 

1955
01:42:03,700 --> 01:42:06,400
You could run a million 
simulations, he will never have 

1956
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,500
one game that would match the 
highest projected taysom game. 

1957
01:42:10,900 --> 01:42:15,100
Well thank you human, we get the
highest the highest protection. 

1958
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,700
I'm excited for this take but a 
kind of iconic. 

1959
01:42:20,500 --> 01:42:23,300
You can use all of Humanity's 
computing power that we're 

1960
01:42:23,300 --> 01:42:26,800
currently using to fund, Chad 
gbt to run as many simulations 

1961
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,800
as you want. 
And you could never get a 

1962
01:42:29,808 --> 01:42:33,500
distribution curve where Juwan 
Johnson's highest projected 

1963
01:42:33,500 --> 01:42:35,800
ceiling game. 
As I ought to say seems hot, it 

1964
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,300
is true. 
It is a hundred tasers, just 

1965
01:42:38,300 --> 01:42:43,200
pulled up, chat, taysom Hill, 
and it's actually true taysom 

1966
01:42:43,300 --> 01:42:47,700
had a 40 Burger last year in a 
year where everyone said, oh, 

1967
01:42:47,700 --> 01:42:53,400
he's dead, you know, he's only 
Sean, Toy once we being held 

1968
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:57,800
back by Paige, I'm not arguing, 
Johnson had a multiple touch 

1969
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,100
down into multiple touchdown 
games last year. 

1970
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:03,900
Like why couldn't in a million 
simulations? 

1971
01:43:03,900 --> 01:43:06,800
He couldn't have a for TV game. 
No, don't buy that. 

1972
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:11,100
No we could use. 
We could mine every last power 

1973
01:43:11,100 --> 01:43:14,100
giving resource on Earth to try 
and get jajuan Johnson to that 

1974
01:43:14,100 --> 01:43:16,100
ceiling. 
And we could not do it with. 

1975
01:43:16,100 --> 01:43:19,000
There's none of the power that 
we could give a Computing 

1976
01:43:19,500 --> 01:43:22,600
software. 
Ew of Mainframe to get jajuan 

1977
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:24,100
Johnson before touchdown. 
Yeah. 

1978
01:43:24,100 --> 01:43:26,200
Sorry that I ran the Sims 
garage. 

1979
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,000
I couldn't get him there. 
I tried. 

1980
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:34,500
But I do want to say this. 
I've never really been a lot of 

1981
01:43:34,500 --> 01:43:37,500
a guy I think I drafted more 
lava than anyone. 

1982
01:43:37,500 --> 01:43:39,300
I got a lot of like, oh no for 
is 105. 

1983
01:43:39,300 --> 01:43:42,500
So he's arranged where it's so 
easy to click him. 

1984
01:43:42,700 --> 01:43:45,700
He's the last like really comfy 
Versi. 

1985
01:43:45,700 --> 01:43:47,800
I loved taking him there. 
I love chicken. 

1986
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,700
I haven't did. 
He was going in the third round 

1987
01:43:50,700 --> 01:43:53,000
of the big board. 
I was just hammering him and 

1988
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,400
even in the late S, I love it. 
So I like Davis's call. 

1989
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,100
So about this game where I've 
got I got as mentioned earlier, 

1990
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:01,300
I've gotten a lot of cup. 
A lot of Tyree teams and I have 

1991
01:44:01,300 --> 01:44:05,300
a lot of couple off and then I 
know in my fast, I had two cars 

1992
01:44:05,300 --> 01:44:08,500
out of my five fast. 
I took some drawn, I did, take 

1993
01:44:08,500 --> 01:44:12,800
some taste them late, I took 
kendre Miller, and who they play

1994
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,100
against Roo Tampa. 
I love, I love God. 

1995
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:18,700
Wants price right now, to Salt 
Lake city, how sick are people 

1996
01:44:18,700 --> 01:44:22,300
going to be when K Totten get 
16? 

1997
01:44:22,300 --> 01:44:24,100
Check towns in that game. 
Get some drugs. 

1998
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:28,800
And Caden Keaton is gonna run 
like 75 to 80% route, right? 

1999
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,200
There's no one else there. 
He's the There's no one else. 

2000
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:32,800
There is the there like talking 
him off. 

2001
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:34,800
Like dude, he's bringing like 
this veteran. 

2002
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,700
Leadership to the room. 
He's a second-year Titans. 

2003
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,300
He's the veteran leader. 
Okay. 

2004
01:44:40,300 --> 01:44:44,200
But you're speaking so hard, 
speaking of bad as quarterback 

2005
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:47,600
Clips run. 
Last year Point. 84 yd / outrun 

2006
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:51,200
like he was bad last year. 
Yeah, but give me the routes at 

2007
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:53,000
18th round. 
I'm gonna get the routes. 

2008
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,500
I'm just getting the routes. 
Like this is my, this is my 

2009
01:44:55,500 --> 01:44:58,900
Washington Husky and like, you 
wasn't that great of a prospect 

2010
01:44:58,900 --> 01:45:03,600
either know, I think you're 
talking about Godwin and Evans 

2011
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,500
and then even like, I think 
Russell gauge is like, when is 

2012
01:45:07,500 --> 01:45:11,600
the win, is the yearly Russell 
gauge when is the yearly Russell

2013
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,300
gauge pump going to happen, 
there's always a time where the 

2014
01:45:14,300 --> 01:45:16,700
market gets irrationally. 
Exuberant about Russell gauge, 

2015
01:45:16,700 --> 01:45:18,700
like you can just, you can just 
set your watch by that. 

2016
01:45:18,700 --> 01:45:21,100
That's what I tell did. 
Robert Woods Russell Gage was 

2017
01:45:21,100 --> 01:45:24,600
mentioned and the comments. 
So they're the same ilk. 

2018
01:45:24,700 --> 01:45:28,200
I want to believe in Otten again
like, as a husky fan to like the

2019
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:30,400
dude. 
You look a good song, More year 

2020
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,200
and then there was a lot of hype
around him and College of his 

2021
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,100
junior or a senior, he didn't do
anything. 

2022
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:36,900
Like he was just never that good
in college. 

2023
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,200
Yeah, but most tight ends suck 
and so if I'm getting, I'm 

2024
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,500
getting a guy who's like, base, 
basically does not have 

2025
01:45:42,500 --> 01:45:44,500
competition on a team. 
That's going to have to pass a 

2026
01:45:44,508 --> 01:45:48,200
lot and probably check down a 
lot like I don't know, it seems 

2027
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,900
pretty there are. 
There are two tight ends that 

2028
01:45:50,900 --> 01:45:55,000
feel good to draft to Travis 
Kelce and Mark Andrews after 

2029
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:59,000
that, you can basically say all 
the rest of them have real 

2030
01:45:59,000 --> 01:45:59,900
problems. 
I'm sorry. 

2031
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:02,300
Very good addresses around Kyle 
pits cow. 

2032
01:46:02,300 --> 01:46:05,400
Bitch is still giving me that 
doesn't doesn't just left. 

2033
01:46:05,500 --> 01:46:08,100
Does that feel good? 
It's actually does feel good to 

2034
01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:10,300
it. 
Yes, it feels like it's getting 

2035
01:46:10,300 --> 01:46:13,600
everything that last year. 
Like suck, I'm getting it all 

2036
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:14,900
back. 
When I get to take him in the 

2037
01:46:14,900 --> 01:46:16,500
sixth round, don't come get me 
wrong. 

2038
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,800
I'm clicking him. 
I'm feeling good about it. 

2039
01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:23,000
But is it really gonna surprise 
me if racemic math, you know, 

2040
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,600
out school like, who's the, 
who's the second item on the 

2041
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:27,500
Falcons now? 
Well racemic. 

2042
01:46:27,500 --> 01:46:29,400
Jonathan wide receivers and 
Johnny Smith. 

2043
01:46:29,500 --> 01:46:32,500
Yeah. 
Oh my God, I mean Johnny Smith 

2044
01:46:32,700 --> 01:46:37,400
week 13 targets three receptions
14 yards two touchdowns put 

2045
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:41,300
right at me that's happening. 
Like just I completely forgotten

2046
01:46:41,300 --> 01:46:46,100
that just it's happening, right?
So his entire stat line for the 

2047
01:46:46,100 --> 01:46:47,900
Patriots in one game. 
Is that what you're saying? 

2048
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:50,900
I got another take for you guys.
I got another good tip for you 

2049
01:46:50,900 --> 01:46:52,600
guys. 
Kyle puts his playing receiver 

2050
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,300
is part of this. 
Cordarrelle Patterson is the 

2051
01:46:55,300 --> 01:46:57,500
best last round pick in all of 
yes. 

2052
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,500
Yes he is going to play wide 
receiver. 

2053
01:46:59,500 --> 01:47:01,400
They did this a lot with him two
years ago. 

2054
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,900
They signed Bijan. 
Yes, they have Tyler. 

2055
01:47:03,900 --> 01:47:05,600
I was here. 
No one wants Patterson because 

2056
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,600
he's a running back now they 
like he was always a weapon. 

2057
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,600
He was never a volume guy. 
A weapon that they were using 

2058
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,800
creatively down there. 
Arthur Smith has liked using him

2059
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,100
creatively. 
There's never two receivers map 

2060
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:19,900
Hollis, they have Scott Miller 
as they're like, third receiver,

2061
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,400
they're splitting Cordarrelle, 
Patterson out into running 

2062
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,400
backs. 
That's would be John, the And 

2063
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,900
he's running posts and he's 
gonna have it right here next to

2064
01:47:26,900 --> 01:47:30,900
No One, the yard and TD get one 
TV game and be very viable in 

2065
01:47:30,900 --> 01:47:33,900
yours, you are be built. 
Colonel Patterson is 32 years 

2066
01:47:33,900 --> 01:47:38,000
old, I do think that factors in 
here bit, you can still run 

2067
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,400
greatest, greatest kick returner
in NFL history. 

2068
01:47:40,700 --> 01:47:44,300
He's fine dudes, because I lied 
receiver this year as a run. 

2069
01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:47,500
He's like, he's like I think of 
him the way you think of like, 

2070
01:47:48,300 --> 01:47:50,600
we got some of the chat with 26%
cordial. 

2071
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,400
That guy knows what's up or gal?
Yeah, he's good pick. 

2072
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,600
He's it. 
And the other thing is even if 

2073
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,000
you think that they're just 
going to cut him to save cap or 

2074
01:47:58,008 --> 01:48:01,300
whatever guarantee that dude 
signs with a team like 

2075
01:48:01,300 --> 01:48:04,300
immediately. 
Yeah, although he could 

2076
01:48:04,300 --> 01:48:07,500
literally just be a kick return 
or another team like the we're 

2077
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,200
gonna chat with depth charts 
helpful here. 

2078
01:48:09,700 --> 01:48:11,600
What have they done in the last 
two years to make us? 

2079
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,700
Think they would cut this player
that they like routinely treated

2080
01:48:14,700 --> 01:48:16,100
as one of their like two or 
three. 

2081
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:19,700
Most like focal points of their 
offense when he's healthy, they 

2082
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,300
coming in with save about three 
million dollars. 

2083
01:48:22,300 --> 01:48:26,100
Yeah, he would be he would say 
He would save them money and 

2084
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:27,300
they have to spend on. 
What? 

2085
01:48:27,300 --> 01:48:28,300
What are they needed. 
Yeah. 

2086
01:48:28,300 --> 01:48:31,500
Why do they need the space? 
Well, what if, what, if they get

2087
01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:34,500
a nail and they need, they need 
to create some capture him to 

2088
01:48:34,500 --> 01:48:37,800
take his contract in I mean, 
that's okay, that's possible. 

2089
01:48:39,300 --> 01:48:42,000
Although everyone keeps saying 
that like it just like, we're 

2090
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:43,900
like, oh yeah, Tannehill is 
going to be the quarterback of 

2091
01:48:43,907 --> 01:48:48,400
the Falcons and like June 5th, 
dude, 90 98 days away from 

2092
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:50,700
kickoff. 
Yeah, I don't think, yeah, it's 

2093
01:48:50,700 --> 01:48:52,200
getting very unlikely at this 
point. 

2094
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,600
So like what is what's happening
with that? 

2095
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,000
I think there until his actually
been a decent fantasy entity 

2096
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:02,300
when he's been a starting 
quarterback before it's Mario De

2097
01:49:02,300 --> 01:49:03,900
Ridder, isn't it? 
I mean, they're going to do the 

2098
01:49:03,907 --> 01:49:07,900
same thing they would but can 
ales way better than late-stage 

2099
01:49:07,900 --> 01:49:09,600
mark. 
Has Mariota for sure. 

2100
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:37,700
But also, I know 
Semi mobile Jonah weekly ceiling

2101
01:49:37,700 --> 01:49:40,100
over the course of his career. 
He's old enough to be a legit 

2102
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:44,500
breakout number why they could 
actually have some Paris who's 

2103
01:49:44,500 --> 01:49:48,700
the second wide receiver for 
Westbrook and Kennedy probably 

2104
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,800
face design. 
Somebody Kyle Phillips out of 

2105
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:59,800
the slot and then I think they 
signed someone And who helped 

2106
01:50:00,500 --> 01:50:01,900
raise more. 
That's who it is. 

2107
01:50:01,900 --> 01:50:05,400
Yeah, it's Chris Moore. 
It's was thinking okay. 

2108
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:16,700
Alright I'm I I'm not doing the 
tail thing, I just come to get 

2109
01:50:16,700 --> 01:50:19,000
you back in. 
Burke's Okonkwo, is a pretty 

2110
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,800
good one too. 
What about Trevon Wesco and he 

2111
01:50:23,300 --> 01:50:28,500
is there. 
It's worse. 

2112
01:50:28,500 --> 01:50:30,400
It's worse than I could have 
possibly imagined. 

2113
01:50:32,300 --> 01:50:34,400
I'm going to say to I'm going to
say two players. 

2114
01:50:34,700 --> 01:50:37,400
One of them is a defensive 
player for the Titans and one of

2115
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,000
them is one of the wide 
receivers listed on their depth 

2116
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,500
chart and you have to tell me 
which is which okay okay. 

2117
01:50:43,100 --> 01:50:49,700
Okay Zack MacLeod. 
Or quieres Jackson. 

2118
01:50:50,500 --> 01:50:56,500
Here's Jackson is a defensive as
name then RayRay McCloud was a 

2119
01:50:56,500 --> 01:50:58,600
receiver will point out the 
exact McLeod's, the wide 

2120
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:01,600
receiver, Zach MacLeod plays 
linebacker. 

2121
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,000
All right, I'm gonna do it. 
One more, one more, okay, Trace 

2122
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:13,000
Sean Harrison or Otis Reese. 
Oh Reese. 

2123
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,900
Is the receiver. 
This is a wide receiver named 

2124
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:18,900
Otis. 
Reese is also a linebacker. 

2125
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,000
We can't win. 
We can't win games. 

2126
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:32,500
The game is rigged. 
That was amazing. 

2127
01:51:32,700 --> 01:51:39,700
All right, let's move on to 
slide 5 expensive Team level 

2128
01:51:39,700 --> 01:51:43,500
atp's. 
This is what's of the Jets are 

2129
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:47,000
really cheap, I guess because if
your how can that be? 

2130
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,700
Because they're starting their 
wide receiver to wide receiver 

2131
01:51:50,700 --> 01:51:53,600
three and tight. 
End are like free, right? 

2132
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:56,000
And pretty decent odds when the 
Super Bowl. 

2133
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,900
So and like, this is also a 
little bit misleading because 

2134
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:03,700
mom's and Kelsey are like first 
and second round picks Roughly. 

2135
01:52:03,700 --> 01:52:07,700
But, you know, we're here Isis. 
A 13 round pick, right? 

2136
01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:13,000
The team, the team that I feel 
most confident, a stack is not 

2137
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:16,300
going to win, best Ball Mania 
for is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

2138
01:52:16,700 --> 01:52:19,400
Absolutely, absolutely. 
No chance that Calvin Ridley 

2139
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:23,200
incursion curve, both payoff 
like sub 5 percent probability 

2140
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:27,300
that feels right to me because 
both our Target earners, right? 

2141
01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:28,900
Like both are getting their own 
volume. 

2142
01:52:28,900 --> 01:52:33,000
Also, I think Evan engram, 
really, really pricey for an Me 

2143
01:52:33,700 --> 01:52:36,500
high volume play. 
Like, that's how a man like the 

2144
01:52:36,500 --> 01:52:41,100
dude, the dude had 37 Burger, 
but other outside of that week 

2145
01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:43,600
he was just editing room. 
Like he was, Evan engram every 

2146
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:45,300
other week of the Season. 
Yeah. 

2147
01:52:45,300 --> 01:52:48,000
And guys, were banged up that 
week like he's soaked up volume,

2148
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:51,700
he can soak up volume 
occasionally, but like the 

2149
01:52:51,700 --> 01:52:53,200
volume just got harder to soak 
up. 

2150
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,800
Yeah, he's not a, he's not an 
earner right. 

2151
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:58,800
He's a, he's a compiler. 
He's a compiler. 

2152
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,700
Yeah, he's a high-end compiler, 
I don't get his ATP at All 

2153
01:53:02,700 --> 01:53:05,000
except people are just won a bet
on the Jaguars. 

2154
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,200
No, I get it. 
I get it because that range of a

2155
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:09,800
draft where he goes just so 
dust. 

2156
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:15,300
And you want, you know, you want
to be taking Jack like you like 

2157
01:53:15,300 --> 01:53:17,200
what it like also it's like a 
turn thing. 

2158
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:20,600
Like you can take Lawrence and 
then immediately take Ingram to.

2159
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:23,200
That's also part of it that, 
right? 

2160
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,200
That more than anything. 
I think is really buoys. 

2161
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:30,400
A VPS is the ability to complete
the stack with in like six or 

2162
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:34,600
seven pics of each other, But so
yeah, I was thinking about this 

2163
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:37,500
as I was, you know, kind of 
familiarizing myself with the 

2164
01:53:37,508 --> 01:53:39,400
atp's. 
And I've heard Pat you say this 

2165
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:42,300
as well but you are also saying 
the core little bit early on 

2166
01:53:42,300 --> 01:53:43,600
these like super stacks and 
stuff. 

2167
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:46,900
Like are that many people 
thinking of these Stacks as much

2168
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:51,500
as we think they are teammates 
tax. 100 percent, I think so 

2169
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:56,500
when a teammate stuff yeah. 
But what I'm what I meant more 

2170
01:53:56,500 --> 01:54:00,500
is that like I think most people
aren't really thoughtfully 

2171
01:54:00,500 --> 01:54:05,200
correlating week 17. 
Well and maybe they are right 

2172
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:09,200
now, but this is a big 
tournament. 

2173
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,800
And so if you thoughtfully 
correlate week 17 on your team 

2174
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:15,000
that you're drafting in June, 
hopefully that teams competing 

2175
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:18,100
against a bunch of teams in week
15 and 16 that were drafted 

2176
01:54:18,300 --> 01:54:21,100
later on, you know, so I still 
think your each day. 

2177
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:23,200
I still think it provides a 
pretty big Edge. 

2178
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:28,300
For, and obviously, you put this
ago, portal helps in week, 17? 

2179
01:54:28,300 --> 01:54:33,600
Yeah, you get through, you get 
through Not even a quarter 

2180
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:34,900
filled. 
How big is? 

2181
01:54:34,900 --> 01:54:36,400
How filled I think? 
That's right. 

2182
01:54:36,500 --> 01:54:40,600
It's like 15% right now. 
Yeah, yeah, I never looked at 

2183
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:41,600
it. 
I was like I thought it was a 

2184
01:54:41,608 --> 01:54:43,900
little bit more feel probably 
and mostly filling. 

2185
01:54:44,700 --> 01:54:48,000
Yeah, I think it's filling 
faster, just neither here nor 

2186
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,400
there but I think it's filling 
faster than they kind of wanted 

2187
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:53,200
it to be and I think that's why 
they keep launching the 

2188
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,000
secondary things. 
I think that's why you're 

2189
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:58,400
getting like the puppy to on May
30th is because I think they 

2190
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:02,500
were like we don't really want 
it to be 15% full on June 1st or

2191
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:04,600
That is too full. 
Yeah. 

2192
01:55:04,900 --> 01:55:07,200
But how many people like have is
it? 

2193
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:10,400
Because people are just firing 
at it right now and they're 

2194
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,000
going to use up all their 
bullets or is right? 

2195
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,300
There's something to be said 
about 150 bullets and a lot of 

2196
01:55:14,300 --> 01:55:15,900
people are using a lot of, ya 
know. 

2197
01:55:15,900 --> 01:55:18,600
I think I think it's that I've 
honestly it's like people like 

2198
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:22,000
me where it's like if I if I 
roast all my bullets out, you 

2199
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:24,300
know, my bullets are done by 
August 1st. 

2200
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:26,800
I'm probably going to be less 
incentivized to get on the app 

2201
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:31,300
every day and do. 
Puppies or pick them or whatever

2202
01:55:31,300 --> 01:55:33,300
like they want that. 
I think they would prefer people

2203
01:55:33,300 --> 01:55:34,900
to just be on the app and single
day. 

2204
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:38,100
That's fair. 
I already feel that I did a lot.

2205
01:55:38,300 --> 01:55:42,100
I did a lot more puppies and I 
did more Chow Chows and I intend

2206
01:55:42,100 --> 01:55:46,100
to thinking I'm gonna have the 
rest of the summer to make more 

2207
01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:49,500
trips to Oregon and do more 
ppm's like I want to get this 

2208
01:55:49,700 --> 01:55:51,200
earlier Davis. 
You said, when you do five, you 

2209
01:55:51,208 --> 01:55:54,200
do for puppies in one, BDM of 
the five fast. 

2210
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:57,600
I did it for puppies. 
One BBM and of the slows I did. 

2211
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:58,800
I think I still have more 
puppies. 

2212
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:00,600
Obviously they're cheaper to so 
it's easy to just fire. 

2213
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,900
A bunch of them. 
I think I have like I've more 

2214
01:56:03,900 --> 01:56:07,200
than ten bbm's going. 
I think I have like 12 or 

2215
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:10,400
something and then closer to 20.
Papi. 

2216
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:16,600
That's how, that's how God 
intended it question here. 

2217
01:56:16,700 --> 01:56:19,600
William Jones asking if we 
talked about which atp's are the

2218
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,600
most distorted by stacking, 
which is we kind of have an I 

2219
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:25,300
guess and this would be kind of 
a interesting part of the show 

2220
01:56:25,300 --> 01:56:29,500
to do that because we got the 
cheap atp's but the expensive 80

2221
01:56:29,500 --> 01:56:31,600
pieces where you would probably 
see the distortion. 

2222
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,000
I mean last year I what was it 
last year? 

2223
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:42,700
It was who did the 49ers play in
week 17 last year 49ers played 

2224
01:56:42,700 --> 01:56:44,900
the Raiders. 
Yeah. 

2225
01:56:45,500 --> 01:56:47,800
D, Bo Adams. 
That's that's, that's not it. 

2226
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:51,600
It's one year. 
One year it was DJ more was tied

2227
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,400
to whoever was going first 
overall and he would just would 

2228
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,600
not budge from this spot. 
I remember that. 

2229
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:01,600
Christian McCaffrey was what was
101 and it was the two three. 

2230
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,800
Turn, wasn't it? 
Yeah. 

2231
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,100
DJ what was that? 
Was that. 

2232
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:07,700
Was that two years ago though? 
Probably two years ago because 

2233
01:57:07,700 --> 01:57:11,100
they? 
So the Saints play the Panthers 

2234
01:57:11,100 --> 01:57:13,200
in 2021. 
Well, I think it was Panthers 

2235
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,700
Panthers, it was McCaffrey and 
DJ more Wait. 

2236
01:57:16,700 --> 01:57:19,200
No, that's anywhere. 
That's why my that's why my 

2237
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,000
brain is breaking. 
That's what it is. 

2238
01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:23,200
Yes, Gretchen's, right? 
It's because there was famine 

2239
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:27,500
Panthers Panthers. 
See what what? 

2240
01:57:27,500 --> 01:57:31,700
Oh, I mean, I think Lamar and 
Mark Andrews are are pretty 

2241
01:57:31,700 --> 01:57:34,800
tight in there together. 
Like there's adult those are 

2242
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,400
good atp's. 
I don't think that's at a store.

2243
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,500
Well, we're right. 
But we're saying we're saying, 

2244
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:42,600
oh well fair enough but I like 
Alomar fall I think is 

2245
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:45,800
impossible because the Andrews 
team is taking them or when he's

2246
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:51,800
there. 100% of the time, I think
Kirk is pretty, I think Kirk is 

2247
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,900
pretty distorted. 
I would, I would take Pittman 

2248
01:57:54,900 --> 01:57:57,600
Godwin and But are you in 
Lockett? 

2249
01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:00,000
I think all ahead of him. 
Maybe, maybe that's just me 

2250
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:01,500
though. 
No, I think you're right. 

2251
01:58:01,500 --> 01:58:04,200
I don't have to cook for you. 
I've, I don't like Kirk all that

2252
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:06,100
much but I will take him there 
because it's like I don't think 

2253
01:58:06,100 --> 01:58:10,700
I've taken them yet but Kirk 
goes 49 and then Lawrence is the

2254
01:58:10,700 --> 01:58:14,200
backstop in the next round or if
he falls right. 

2255
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:18,500
Well, so one thing that I'll do 
is I'll take DJ more at the end 

2256
01:58:18,500 --> 01:58:21,300
of the fourth and hope to get 
Fields coming back. 

2257
01:58:21,300 --> 01:58:24,500
And if he doesn't get Fields, if
like, it feels doesn't come 

2258
01:58:24,500 --> 01:58:27,700
back, right? 
Yeah, that means okay, if I've 

2259
01:58:27,700 --> 01:58:32,000
done that it's it's usually 
because I have burrow for cover 

2260
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:35,500
and the chase guy is behind me 
like I'm other 103 of the 124. 

2261
01:58:35,500 --> 01:58:38,500
So I've got chased their Mahomes
is already gone, maybe one of 

2262
01:58:38,500 --> 01:58:42,200
the early quarterbacks gone. 
So I'm like there's only one 

2263
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:44,800
other non Borough guy who needs 
a quarterback. 

2264
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:47,300
So it's comes down to whether or
not, he takes naked Fields. 

2265
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:53,100
If he takes naked Fields, you 
can then if Lawrence Falls all 

2266
01:58:53,100 --> 01:58:55,500
the way back to you. 
At the end of the sixth, you 

2267
01:58:55,500 --> 01:58:58,100
can. 
Push him around the corner again

2268
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:00,800
and get right. 
Really late. 

2269
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,500
Seventh round. 
Lawrence it allows you to take 

2270
01:59:03,500 --> 01:59:06,100
your pick of the wide receiver 
in the sixth and so that's one 

2271
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:09,800
reason I've taken Kirk. 
I've I've gone more sniped on 

2272
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:12,800
fields. 
Take Kirk to set myself up to 

2273
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,900
push for late 7th, round 
Lawrence not leak, seventh 

2274
01:59:15,900 --> 01:59:19,600
round, sorry early, seventh 
round Lawrence and basically 

2275
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:22,600
make those quarterback drafters 
on the turn, pay for having a 

2276
01:59:22,608 --> 01:59:24,300
quarterback and not being able 
to scoop Lawrence. 

2277
01:59:24,900 --> 01:59:27,100
It's worked. 
It worked once and it was pretty

2278
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:31,400
good rui. 
That's it. 

2279
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:34,000
I mean we haven't talked about 
that yet at all this year, but 

2280
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:38,800
like I do think buying for talks
about this is just like when you

2281
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:42,900
when there's a 10% chance of the
guy, you need to make it back to

2282
01:59:42,900 --> 01:59:45,400
you at your next pick. 
Deferring on that more often 

2283
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,400
than not just to try and get the
Giga team to try and get the 

2284
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:52,200
super team where you've got, you
know, for outrageous, ATV values

2285
01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:54,400
all together on the same team or
whatever. 

2286
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:57,900
I didn't do it. 
That's plus EV to try to try to 

2287
01:59:57,900 --> 02:00:00,800
smash the draft. 
I think it is, I think plus EV, 

2288
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,200
and I think it's, especially, 
plus EV when you have a recent, 

2289
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:06,400
when you can see, say we're so 
late here. 

2290
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:11,600
That Sam's actually George 
things are just on schedule 

2291
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:12,400
here. 
Two hours. 

2292
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:14,300
Yeah, we got that. 
We got the /. 

2293
02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:19,800
Please help us. 
Let us we're talking about 

2294
02:00:19,900 --> 02:00:25,400
trying to push your quarterback.
Picks the one. 

2295
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:27,600
We Like one reason to push a 
quarterback picks is if you can 

2296
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,300
see on the turn all these guys 
have quarterbacks and taking the

2297
02:00:30,300 --> 02:00:32,300
quarterback here would be a bad 
pick for them because then you 

2298
02:00:32,300 --> 02:00:34,800
get the least if they snipe you.
You're like at least like well 

2299
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:37,200
this team is probably less 
competitive. 

2300
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:40,600
Now, Right. 
Yeah. 

2301
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,400
All right. 
Let's move on to the next chart 

2302
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:48,800
and Sam talk us through it. 
Yeah, cheap Teams Arizona 

2303
02:00:49,300 --> 02:00:53,300
obviously gets tanked with 
Hopkins being released so 

2304
02:00:53,300 --> 02:00:57,700
they're way cheaper. 
Now I'm not I haven't called me 

2305
02:00:57,700 --> 02:00:59,800
in the show. 
So apologies about rehashing old

2306
02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:04,200
debates, but curious your 
thoughts on Rondell like now. 

2307
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:06,300
Here talked about Rondell, we 
did you talk to okay? 

2308
02:01:15,700 --> 02:01:19,800
Patriots Patriot stack still, 
the absolute dirt. 

2309
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:21,600
Cheapest. 
I think we've talked that one 

2310
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:24,500
and we're starting to get know. 
We're starting to get news on 

2311
02:01:24,500 --> 02:01:26,500
this though. 
That people are starting to 

2312
02:01:26,500 --> 02:01:29,800
realize that the sticky Hunter 
Henry atp's need to be flipped 

2313
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:33,400
blobs anywhere like like get 
sticky sticky. 

2314
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:36,300
There was thormann tweeted this 
yesterday or maybe two days ago,

2315
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:38,700
that is a lot of silver. 
Yeah, he's practicing. 

2316
02:01:38,700 --> 02:01:41,900
He's in the wide receiver room 
so like Hunter Henry exactly. 

2317
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:45,800
He said, this is a tweet and 
he's right, that's a Good 

2318
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:47,300
argument for taking on Trinity 
price. 

2319
02:01:47,300 --> 02:01:50,100
I think it's also an argument 
from Dissidia price. 

2320
02:01:50,100 --> 02:01:51,700
I think they're both really 
good. 

2321
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:54,500
You still getting tight end up 
side really late. 

2322
02:01:54,500 --> 02:01:57,100
And either case I think you can 
take either of them I think. 

2323
02:01:57,100 --> 02:02:00,000
Yeah, wide receiver. 
That's just like an awesome 

2324
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,400
knocks thing to a degree. 
I did not not really just like 

2325
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:05,600
it off knock snake but I think 
about 400 needs. 

2326
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:07,400
Yeah. 
Hunter Henry needs to come up 

2327
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:09,000
but yeah, I agree with you guys.
I think a sick. 

2328
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:12,000
He's like fine worried, like if 
he's playing wide receiver and 

2329
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:16,000
you know, even if he's like a 
50% snap player and play Mostly 

2330
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:19,500
slot wide receiver. 
You could get what 550 yards and

2331
02:02:19,500 --> 02:02:21,100
six touchdowns or something like
that's fine. 

2332
02:02:21,100 --> 02:02:26,500
And the 17th round him Henry 
Thornton and Mac are all super 

2333
02:02:26,500 --> 02:02:28,000
cheesy. 
I don't want to take Juju. 

2334
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:30,100
I want to Stack that came 
through, those four in the last 

2335
02:02:30,100 --> 02:02:34,400
three rounds is the biggest Edge
invest ball right now that the 

2336
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:37,700
Patriots were a top five offense
and DV away two years ago, 

2337
02:02:37,700 --> 02:02:40,200
didn't have an offensive 
coordinator last year and then 

2338
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:42,400
have an offensive coordinator. 
Honestly might be one of. 

2339
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:45,500
Yeah, I think it, it might 
actually might be the biggest 

2340
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,900
And I just, all right now, man, 
talking through this. 

2341
02:02:48,900 --> 02:02:51,700
Like if you're sick, he's really
going to play wide receiver. 

2342
02:02:51,700 --> 02:02:54,200
If you're gonna be like a three 
tight end, build late-round you 

2343
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:59,500
could do, I bet the kiseki 
Henry, Mac stack double stack is

2344
02:02:59,500 --> 02:03:02,200
super differentiated. 
You get two different tight 

2345
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:04,900
ends, if they really do play 
different positions. 

2346
02:03:05,500 --> 02:03:07,700
Like, you know, you're double 
Stacks with the wide receiver 

2347
02:03:07,700 --> 02:03:09,800
and a tight end, but you get 
tight in eligibility from both. 

2348
02:03:10,100 --> 02:03:12,900
It's kind of a fun. 
I'm gonna do that at some point.

2349
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:16,300
I've been taking a lot of New 
England, like Last three picks 

2350
02:03:16,300 --> 02:03:19,800
doing like Thornton Henry, Mac, 
whatever. 

2351
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:25,100
But yeah, I guess the question 
for you guys is like And it'll 

2352
02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:27,100
build where you need a third 
quarterback. 

2353
02:03:27,100 --> 02:03:30,400
I guess I get taking Mac Jones 
but I guess I questions. 

2354
02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:33,400
Sometimes in the round 18 pick, 
like if I have five Scoops, 

2355
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:36,800
three Patriots for cheap 
already, like, do I really need 

2356
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:39,700
the Mac Jones piece of it, or 
should I just stack the past 

2357
02:03:39,700 --> 02:03:42,200
without I doubt him that? 
Yeah. 

2358
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:45,200
What are your other court? 
Like, if you have Herbert and 

2359
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:48,200
Geno Smith, I would say don't 
what, what does Matt Jones do 

2360
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:50,500
for this team? 
Yeah, that's honestly if Jones 

2361
02:03:50,500 --> 02:03:51,900
is bad. 
There's some Loki. 

2362
02:03:51,900 --> 02:03:53,600
Bailey zap. 
Be risk, right? 

2363
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:55,200
Like that's probably not being 
discussed know. 

2364
02:03:55,200 --> 02:03:58,600
It's heike if Maxie Jones is 
bad, but the thesis were saying,

2365
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:02,500
is that Mac Jones was actually 
always fine and it was the 

2366
02:04:02,500 --> 02:04:06,200
Patriots organizations fault for
not paying sure for an offensive

2367
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:08,400
coordinator. 
And so having that contract to 

2368
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:12,900
do the, Oh, you mean, yeah, 
having a contractor come in and,

2369
02:04:12,900 --> 02:04:14,600
like, restructure, the office 
has some aperture. 

2370
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:16,700
Should could do that, you know, 
I don't know. 

2371
02:04:16,700 --> 02:04:19,700
Yeah, I mean, because the main 
reason that like, there's this 

2372
02:04:19,700 --> 02:04:22,600
Mac, but if he's like a genius, 
what if he's like, a really 

2373
02:04:22,700 --> 02:04:26,100
Interior design where he is. 
So that's the thing about math. 

2374
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:30,500
Patricia is actually like a real
life like 160 IQ genius. 

2375
02:04:30,900 --> 02:04:33,900
That is a writ. 
That's a real interior design at

2376
02:04:33,900 --> 02:04:36,800
everything at everything. 
He's like a not often actually 

2377
02:04:36,900 --> 02:04:38,400
happens. 
Of course, not offense, though. 

2378
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:43,700
My football coach, I mean, okay,
to be fair, I heard this from 

2379
02:04:43,700 --> 02:04:48,200
Redmond and grubman, he might 
not be, he might not be 100% on 

2380
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:50,000
bias when it comes out and go 
maitreya. 

2381
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:54,000
No, no, I am 100%. 
Leaving every word won't run 

2382
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:58,300
missing. 
Well, the Contracting thing is 

2383
02:04:58,300 --> 02:04:59,500
true. 
The Contracting. 

2384
02:04:59,500 --> 02:05:02,300
That is on the record, right? 
That's real that you can find. 

2385
02:05:02,300 --> 02:05:03,700
That's real. 
You can find. 

2386
02:05:03,700 --> 02:05:08,400
Yeah, that's real. 
What about, what about the 

2387
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:10,800
Carolina Panthers and the 
Houston Texans in the famous 

2388
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:13,300
words of David kitchen? 
We just don't know, like, if 

2389
02:05:13,308 --> 02:05:17,100
Bryce young if Bryce young and 
because it's it's like you 

2390
02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:19,600
cannot tell yourself a story 
about the Buccaneers offense 

2391
02:05:19,700 --> 02:05:20,900
improving with these 
quarterbacks. 

2392
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:23,400
You can't really tell yourself a
story about will love us or at 

2393
02:05:23,407 --> 02:05:26,600
least, I can't can't really tell
yourself as long story. 

2394
02:05:27,300 --> 02:05:29,300
What's wrong with the box? 
They're not going to improve but

2395
02:05:29,300 --> 02:05:31,400
they could still be a very 
viable offense. 

2396
02:05:31,700 --> 02:05:34,500
It should be bottom. 
Five, I don't think anyone is 

2397
02:05:34,500 --> 02:05:35,600
there. 
They two more passes. 

2398
02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:38,200
Faster than like, any team ever?
Yeah, I don't think of it. 

2399
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:43,300
That's it, that's it obviously 
is, but why are they bottom-5 

2400
02:05:43,300 --> 02:05:45,200
the team that did that last year
as bottom? 

2401
02:05:45,300 --> 02:05:47,300
Like, what if they're just 
middle of the pack and past 

2402
02:05:47,300 --> 02:05:49,200
volume and they have good 
receivers like what's wrong with

2403
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:52,700
that? 
So I like Godwin and Evans but 

2404
02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:54,700
after that I don't know. 
Kate. 

2405
02:05:54,700 --> 02:05:58,300
Okay, Tottenham 18th that seems 
fine to me too but Sam Soon. 

2406
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:02,300
Yeah, I was touting. 
They were mostly be some 

2407
02:06:02,300 --> 02:06:04,100
Washington Huskies. 
Dad's get out of here. 

2408
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,700
But I'm going to Davis on 
Carolina and Houston mostly 

2409
02:06:08,700 --> 02:06:11,900
because like, okay, we've seen, 
we've seen Baker, I think week. 

2410
02:06:11,900 --> 02:06:14,100
Okay maybe baker's fine. 
Like I guess you can tell a 

2411
02:06:14,100 --> 02:06:16,300
story where Baker's like a 
League average quarterback this 

2412
02:06:16,300 --> 02:06:17,600
year. 
Sure, maybe Tampa Bay's 

2413
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:21,500
undervalued but like couldn't 
Stroud and Bryce young be like 

2414
02:06:21,500 --> 02:06:23,700
really good. 
Passers like it's all likely 

2415
02:06:23,700 --> 02:06:26,600
it's not the base case scenario 
but like number one and number 

2416
02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:29,800
two overall picks like I get 
their offensive weapons or 

2417
02:06:29,800 --> 02:06:32,100
pretty bad. 
But like these guys could just 

2418
02:06:32,100 --> 02:06:35,400
be really good, right? 
And I've been buying a lot. 

2419
02:06:35,700 --> 02:06:38,900
We just don't know, Sam. 
We just we just don't know, 

2420
02:06:38,900 --> 02:06:40,500
right? 
Put it on a throw pillow. 

2421
02:06:40,500 --> 02:06:47,400
We just don't know. 
I-i've with, with Houston 

2422
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:50,600
specifically, I'm buying it 
because I think Stroud might run

2423
02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:53,000
a little bit Bryce young. 
I don't think he's going to run 

2424
02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:55,000
at all. 
I think the first time an NFL 

2425
02:06:55,000 --> 02:06:59,300
linebacker hits him, I'm worried
that I'm hoping that Carolina 

2426
02:06:59,300 --> 02:07:02,700
has really gonna run around, 
he's gonna yes round, he's gonna

2427
02:07:02,700 --> 02:07:05,600
run around, I don't think he's 
gonna run forward four yards 

2428
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:08,100
right? 
But I think Stroud might I think

2429
02:07:08,100 --> 02:07:11,400
shroud could run, I think Stroud
could do a jobber 04:00, rushing

2430
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:15,000
yards, three rushing touchdowns.
Can we can we Just quick 

2431
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:17,000
tangent, two hours, and seven 
minutes into the show. 

2432
02:07:20,700 --> 02:07:25,300
There's, you know, it's very 
exclusive tree that David 

2433
02:07:25,300 --> 02:07:27,800
kitchen has in terms of, you 
know, I've tried to get in the 

2434
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:30,600
trades and you can't you can't. 
He won't let anyone in the tree.

2435
02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:35,700
It's very exclusive in terms of 
the tree of which analysts have 

2436
02:07:35,700 --> 02:07:37,700
come from David kitchen. 
Sure. 

2437
02:07:37,700 --> 02:07:42,000
What, in terms of that the 
Lexicon that we now use in the 

2438
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:47,000
fantasy landscape, underrated 
tree, David kitchen here with 

2439
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:50,200
live a little, and we just don't
know, we just don't know. 

2440
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:53,300
We just don't know being the the
phrases of each Summer of the 

2441
02:07:53,308 --> 02:07:56,800
last two years. 
I mean we just don't know is so 

2442
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:59,300
good because it's actually it's 
even less. 

2443
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:01,900
It has less effort behind it 
than live a little. 

2444
02:08:01,900 --> 02:08:05,000
Like, at least there's a message
in live a little, you know, like

2445
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:07,400
live a little is like, well, if 
you want to think about it, from

2446
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:09,800
a game theory since you can be 
like, well, if all these other 

2447
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:12,900
nerds are drafting off of ADP, 
maybe there is some marginal 

2448
02:08:12,900 --> 02:08:16,900
Edge and just like, taking huge 
stances but we just don't know 

2449
02:08:16,900 --> 02:08:21,100
is no effort. 
It's Nihilism. 

2450
02:08:21,100 --> 02:08:24,500
It's just it's just it's like 
I'm going to click this button 

2451
02:08:24,500 --> 02:08:50,400
because we just don't know 
but it's if I'm just saying I 

2452
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:53,100
don't know, then there's so much
easier and any indication he's 

2453
02:08:53,100 --> 02:08:58,000
gonna nail it. 
Okay. 

2454
02:08:58,000 --> 02:08:59,400
All right let's let's let's move
on. 

2455
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:00,600
Let's get another slide. 
Yeah. 

2456
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:04,900
Take as yeah, we need to be by 
the. 

2457
02:09:04,900 --> 02:09:10,200
Yes. 
All right, let's skip that let's

2458
02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:12,900
just talk through this quickly. 
There's nothing that's changed 

2459
02:09:12,900 --> 02:09:17,100
but like to say I think that the
one interesting here thing here 

2460
02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:20,900
to point out actually is the 
quarterback atp's or like slowly

2461
02:09:20,900 --> 02:09:22,900
and obviously I assume you guys 
talked about this but they're 

2462
02:09:22,900 --> 02:09:26,500
slowly creeping back. 
Birds twenty twenty two atp's. 

2463
02:09:26,500 --> 02:09:29,600
Now, there's still this chart 
here showing average of 

2464
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:33,000
quarterback ones, that are going
around, pick 60. 

2465
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:35,500
Now, if you just take the top 12
quarterbacks on average last 

2466
02:09:35,500 --> 02:09:39,700
year, that was closer to 65. 
So there still is a gap compared

2467
02:09:39,700 --> 02:09:41,700
to last year. 
The elite quarterback still are 

2468
02:09:41,700 --> 02:09:47,000
more expensive but it's slowly 
kind of approaching what we saw 

2469
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,700
last year, which I think is 
interesting. 

2470
02:09:48,700 --> 02:09:53,600
I don't think it'll get all the 
way there, but I think if you 

2471
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:56,200
took the approach of like, Hey, 
I'm gonna like fade Elite 

2472
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:58,500
quarterback early in the season 
and wait for them to get 

2473
02:09:58,500 --> 02:10:01,100
cheaper. 
I think there's some truth to 

2474
02:10:01,100 --> 02:10:04,300
that actually happening. 
Yeah, figure I think you're 

2475
02:10:04,300 --> 02:10:06,700
gonna get there on that. 
Yeah. 

2476
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:09,900
But unless you guys have 
something else to talk through 

2477
02:10:09,900 --> 02:10:13,300
here, I think let's just do the 
best values and wrapped. 

2478
02:10:13,300 --> 02:10:15,600
All right now let's do it. 
Oh my God. 

2479
02:10:15,700 --> 02:10:17,400
How can we even how can we even 
get? 

2480
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:19,700
We talked so much good 
information they show. 

2481
02:10:19,700 --> 02:10:21,400
How can we even get to the best 
value? 

2482
02:10:22,100 --> 02:10:28,200
Yeah, there's so many values. 
Anybody want to kick things off,

2483
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:30,700
I'll go with the gross one. 
I'll go to Brooklyn because I 

2484
02:10:30,700 --> 02:10:33,000
think I'm not even sure that I 
can. 

2485
02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:36,000
I'm gonna have to like negotiate
with you about starting a teepee

2486
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:39,900
because I would like to start a 
starting ATP of around 500 for 

2487
02:10:39,900 --> 02:10:44,200
this one since he was never like
never selected but I did a pod 

2488
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:45,600
with yes. 
What if you will? 

2489
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:49,200
That's my negotiating Point. 
All I'm willing to come down but

2490
02:10:50,500 --> 02:10:53,800
the I did a pod with Davis and 
he pointed out. 

2491
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:57,300
Little little thing, we'd memory
told, is that Chiron. 

2492
02:10:57,300 --> 02:11:01,600
Williams was talked up as a 
co-starter with Cam Akers to 

2493
02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:03,900
begin last year. 
Then he got hurt. 

2494
02:11:03,900 --> 02:11:08,500
Yeah, he had a high ankle 
sprain, was not good. 

2495
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:11,500
And we were like we then he 
drives a Kevin's. 

2496
02:11:11,500 --> 02:11:13,400
There's like it's safe to forget
about this guy forever. 

2497
02:11:14,300 --> 02:11:16,100
There are reports that they are 
splitting. 

2498
02:11:16,200 --> 02:11:19,300
He is splitting reps with the 
ones with Cam Akers right now, 

2499
02:11:19,300 --> 02:11:23,200
and OTAs. 
And this is not a, he's a 

2500
02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:26,500
co-starter with Cam Akers. 
It's a we may be getting ahead 

2501
02:11:26,500 --> 02:11:29,600
of ourselves with who the number
two is on the Rams. 

2502
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:31,800
They seem to really like Karen 
Williams. 

2503
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:33,900
Yeah. 
And it's like he might be, 

2504
02:11:33,900 --> 02:11:38,000
they're not, he's not good. 
Well, he might not be good, but 

2505
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:39,500
it's kiss cam Akers. 
Good. 

2506
02:11:40,100 --> 02:11:43,800
Is is some igp Ryan good? 
Is, if you get a clear number 

2507
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:45,600
two, okay and the fellow 
athlete. 

2508
02:11:45,900 --> 02:11:47,700
He's at can't make her some 
monster appear on. 

2509
02:11:47,700 --> 02:11:49,700
Are better athletes, right? 
Okay. 

2510
02:11:50,100 --> 02:11:51,600
Yeah. 
Currents at Aaron's a terrible 

2511
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:53,500
athlete although absolutely 
gentle with it. 

2512
02:11:53,500 --> 02:11:57,700
Yeah. 
But he was - I just got an 

2513
02:11:57,700 --> 02:11:59,300
aspirin. 
I just got an FYI. 

2514
02:11:59,500 --> 02:12:01,000
It's your pick notification 
crach. 

2515
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:06,300
Just letting you know. 
I said it's gross but it's a 

2516
02:12:06,300 --> 02:12:10,400
play that we get closing on 
value based on new. 

2517
02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:13,200
It's we just hear the drumbeat 
of he's the number two, he's the

2518
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:16,300
number two and if he's the 
number two, he's very much more 

2519
02:12:16,300 --> 02:12:19,400
like the 15th or 16th grow, but 
are you actually taking him out 

2520
02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:22,000
Pat because of the risk of dead 
roster spot like are you 

2521
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:25,100
advocating for taking him now or
you just saying, you think I'm 

2522
02:12:25,100 --> 02:12:27,100
saying, put them on your radar. 
I've taken him. 

2523
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:30,200
I think I've taken them once 
just to get a little fun. 

2524
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:32,300
We're a team that I was like, I 
need a sixth or seventh running 

2525
02:12:32,300 --> 02:12:35,300
back and I just wanted a little 
more and I've taken, I think I'm

2526
02:12:35,300 --> 02:12:39,500
drafting you're saying no one 
had ever taken him and you've 

2527
02:12:39,500 --> 02:12:41,400
taken of one. 
So he's now by taking them once 

2528
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:44,000
on Underdog in once on 
DraftKings and I think I think 

2529
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:46,600
he's I think he's think it's a 
really good take on DraftKings. 

2530
02:12:46,900 --> 02:12:49,600
Yeah. 
Good because you get to that 

2531
02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:51,900
point and the 20th round and 
you're like I just need to be 

2532
02:12:51,900 --> 02:12:53,900
taking guys don't get drafted 
every single time. 

2533
02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:56,700
I feel like there's a lot of 
running backs. 

2534
02:12:56,700 --> 02:13:00,200
I would rather do that with than
have. 

2535
02:13:00,200 --> 02:13:05,600
I used Greg Dortch in this 
exercise already say I'm 

2536
02:13:05,600 --> 02:13:09,100
holding. 
So I don't think you used to to 

2537
02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:12,100
but I don't think you still did.
I did use to to and I'm going to

2538
02:13:12,100 --> 02:13:13,800
be right about that. 
People are going to people are 

2539
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:15,900
going to recognize once that 
High Point clip really starts 

2540
02:13:15,900 --> 02:13:18,200
going viral. 
It's definitely. 

2541
02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:22,000
I'm aware world since this is 
High Point at like 15 feet 8 

2542
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,500
inches tall his yes he's 
clearly. 

2543
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:27,900
Of this High Point Donna. 
Doesn't like it is actually high

2544
02:13:27,900 --> 02:13:31,700
five. 
I'm going to do, I'm going to do

2545
02:13:31,700 --> 02:13:33,100
Dortch. 
I mean, I just think I just 

2546
02:13:33,100 --> 02:13:35,400
think it's one. 
It's a pretty good summary of 

2547
02:13:35,407 --> 02:13:40,200
the show, but to it's like you 
just you just see it, right? 

2548
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:43,800
You just the, the Cardinals are 
just an absolute train wreck. 

2549
02:13:43,900 --> 02:13:48,500
Dortch is like the only active 
guy every single week, it just, 

2550
02:13:48,500 --> 02:13:50,400
it's all, it's all laid out 
right there. 

2551
02:13:50,500 --> 02:13:53,300
Maybe I'll become a Michael 
Wilson, bro, maybe. 

2552
02:13:53,700 --> 02:13:57,800
But right now, I'm a torch, bro.
She's really similar to the pic.

2553
02:13:57,800 --> 02:14:00,800
I tried to make earlier with 
Last time I was on with Ty 

2554
02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:05,700
Chandler and because of the idea
that like Cooks, give a Cook's 

2555
02:14:05,700 --> 02:14:08,700
going to be cut Madison's 
already Rising but the cheaper 

2556
02:14:08,700 --> 02:14:12,000
version like the one who's going
to be the backup at that point 

2557
02:14:12,100 --> 02:14:13,900
isn't Rising. 
But we just saw Arundel Moors at

2558
02:14:13,900 --> 02:14:15,600
one of the highest. 
Yeah, we've got, we've got one 

2559
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:17,100
down. 
So we've got Rondell up by a 

2560
02:14:17,100 --> 02:14:19,400
billion. 
Those guys are rising, but those

2561
02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:22,100
like flop leg on the lake, the 
Flyers that those guys haven't 

2562
02:14:22,100 --> 02:14:24,800
come up a few rounds. 
Yeah, I like I'm gonna demand 

2563
02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:28,100
that that Davis, put a little 
respect on Rondell Morris named 

2564
02:14:28,100 --> 02:14:31,100
after he touted 22. 
Well, and Greg door Chu is also 

2565
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:34,200
57. 
Mm, I think my favorite is on 

2566
02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:36,900
every service T. 
This offseason is just every 

2567
02:14:36,900 --> 02:14:37,900
short, dude. 
Right? 

2568
02:14:37,900 --> 02:14:39,800
Deuce deuce, except Rod. 
No more. 

2569
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:44,900
Except I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm
gonna, I'm gonna recant, I'm 

2570
02:14:44,900 --> 02:14:46,900
gonna recant. 
We're in, we're in on Rondo. 

2571
02:14:46,900 --> 02:14:49,300
All right, a horse. 
He's the one short dude. 

2572
02:14:49,300 --> 02:14:52,600
Who's actually a beast, like 
it's super good athlete for 

2573
02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:56,100
three speed squats after I've 
come around on Ron Vale, if you 

2574
02:14:56,100 --> 02:15:00,300
actually look at and I think 
either Marquis Azure Hopkins was

2575
02:15:00,300 --> 02:15:03,300
out for like all of these games.
But if you look at a snap rates 

2576
02:15:03,300 --> 02:15:06,600
last year you was playing like a
lot of like I haven't played 

2577
02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:09,100
out. 
It's not like he was playing a 

2578
02:15:09,100 --> 02:15:13,400
lot of outdoor snaps so I I've 
come around on the upside of 

2579
02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:16,700
Rondell Cal. 
He played a billion snaps. 

2580
02:15:17,100 --> 02:15:22,500
But are we concerned that Greg 
torch has been more effective 

2581
02:15:22,500 --> 02:15:26,200
per Target in his career as like
an undrafted free agent? 

2582
02:15:26,200 --> 02:15:27,400
Who's Tyler. 
Can't see. 

2583
02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:28,800
Rondo more. 
They're both too short. 

2584
02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:33,600
But he's You don't think deal 
torches smaller, who is their 

2585
02:15:33,600 --> 02:15:35,300
quarterback? 
Isn't called McCoy coming back 

2586
02:15:35,300 --> 02:15:37,200
from an old dude. 
They're gonna, they're gonna 

2587
02:15:37,200 --> 02:15:38,300
start Clayton. 
Dude. 

2588
02:15:38,300 --> 02:15:41,000
I'm telling you like, Carson. 
It's going to Carson Wentz. 

2589
02:15:41,200 --> 02:15:56,100
Oh, well, I mean, but that's 
probably too obvious. 

2590
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:57,900
So I'm going to take quarter all
Patterson because I'm going to 

2591
02:15:57,900 --> 02:15:59,800
be talking about how Coral 
Patterson Is gonna be the wide 

2592
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:02,700
receiver to this year for the 
next like you we do that dude. 

2593
02:16:03,400 --> 02:16:06,900
Easy picking the 18th round, he 
should be going at least two 

2594
02:16:06,900 --> 02:16:13,400
rounds, higher least. 
I like that. 

2595
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:14,400
Yeah. 
Who else are they gonna? 

2596
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:16,900
I mean, seriously, though, he's 
at least going to play a lot of 

2597
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:18,200
slot Wide Receiver, right? 
Yeah. 

2598
02:16:18,200 --> 02:16:19,900
They've always viewed him as a 
weapon. 

2599
02:16:19,900 --> 02:16:21,900
He's, I've been back to the 
year, he broke out. 

2600
02:16:21,900 --> 02:16:24,100
I was writing about and signals 
into some most proud about that 

2601
02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:26,100
year because a lot of people 
were just looking at his like 

2602
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:28,800
Snap rates and stuff when he 
started to have his first good 

2603
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:32,200
games for, like he's role isn't 
justifying the scoring. 

2604
02:16:32,400 --> 02:16:36,200
I was like dude they're seeing 
him as one of their basically 

2605
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:38,100
two weapons. 
Cow pits was rookie year. 

2606
02:16:38,100 --> 02:16:41,299
Was the other one like Mike 
Davis isn't that guy like they 

2607
02:16:41,307 --> 02:16:43,200
just seem as a weapon. 
They're going to Use him in 

2608
02:16:43,200 --> 02:16:44,500
certain packages are going to 
use. 

2609
02:16:44,799 --> 02:16:46,700
They're going to use me as much 
as they can use him, but they 

2610
02:16:46,700 --> 02:16:48,000
see him as somebody who's 
versatile. 

2611
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:51,100
They were splitting out why they
were using month, post patterns.

2612
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:55,100
He got like are yards, he got 
screen passes, he got Rush 

2613
02:16:55,100 --> 02:16:57,200
attempts. 
He's not going to be him like a 

2614
02:16:57,208 --> 02:17:00,500
heavily used running back when 
Bijan and Algeria both there, 

2615
02:17:00,500 --> 02:17:02,200
but they will give him some 
carries. 

2616
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:04,400
I think, I think he's gonna get 
more carries and people realize 

2617
02:17:04,400 --> 02:17:07,400
it's a little bit annoying. 
Honestly, for the ceiling for 

2618
02:17:07,400 --> 02:17:09,700
Bijan and Algeria. 
In my opinion, I'm a little 

2619
02:17:09,700 --> 02:17:11,799
concerned because he's gonna get
like six carries a game probably

2620
02:17:11,799 --> 02:17:15,799
Patterson. 
And then probably run routes 

2621
02:17:15,799 --> 02:17:17,700
outside like more than people 
realize. 

2622
02:17:17,700 --> 02:17:23,100
Okay, I honestly think there's a
spike week, 40 R&B teens, 

2623
02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:26,299
especially like, I think he's 
such an easy 18th round pick we 

2624
02:17:26,299 --> 02:17:28,299
Pat. 
We've talked about this, some of

2625
02:17:28,307 --> 02:17:29,700
the dress, we've done. 
Like, who were the one who makes

2626
02:17:29,700 --> 02:17:32,000
you want to take back there? 
I've talked up to Minnesota, 

2627
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:33,299
Vikings, running back to 
Patterson's. 

2628
02:17:33,299 --> 02:17:36,200
The one that when I was doing 
some fast drafts, I just loved 

2629
02:17:36,200 --> 02:17:39,100
adding him at the very end, I 
just think like with for my 

2630
02:17:39,100 --> 02:17:41,799
sixth running back, makes a lot 
of sense. 

2631
02:17:42,900 --> 02:17:44,600
He will be. 
Yeah, I mean he's such a good 

2632
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:46,400
kick returner. 
He's I think I'm probably 

2633
02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:47,900
unlikely to be cut even though 
he's old. 

2634
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:52,799
Yeah, beautiful. 
I'll give mine quickly. 

2635
02:17:54,299 --> 02:17:57,000
I don't think anyone's taking 
this on the show yet, I could be

2636
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:00,400
wrong but I do not understand 
why. 

2637
02:18:00,400 --> 02:18:05,000
Matt Stafford's atp's still 160 
overall crane crane took 

2638
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:08,100
Stafford once I think, I'm not 
sure if I did or not. 

2639
02:18:10,100 --> 02:18:12,400
We're all in agreement though. 
We all like stopping it. 

2640
02:18:12,799 --> 02:18:14,799
If you've already taken him, 
this won't count towards the 

2641
02:18:14,807 --> 02:18:16,100
game. 
But let me let me just give the 

2642
02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:20,500
pitch anyways. 
He's Going at 160 overall behind

2643
02:18:20,600 --> 02:18:22,500
Kyler Murray. 
Who's gonna want, missed half 

2644
02:18:22,500 --> 02:18:26,700
the season behind Jordan. 
Love for God, knows what reason 

2645
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:29,400
behind Eric Carr. 
Like, I mean, what's the 

2646
02:18:29,407 --> 02:18:32,900
difference between Matt Stafford
and like, Jared Goff Aaron 

2647
02:18:32,900 --> 02:18:34,799
Rodgers. 
That's honestly, the veteran 

2648
02:18:34,799 --> 02:18:37,100
quarterbacks pocket. 
Passers those guys are going, 

2649
02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:40,000
40, picks higher, and probably 
the bigger companies dealing in 

2650
02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:42,100
Rogers. 
Yeah, I think so. 

2651
02:18:42,100 --> 02:18:45,799
I mean, look two years ago, 
Stafford, through for nearly 

2652
02:18:45,799 --> 02:18:50,200
5,000 yards, 40 touchdowns, I 
think people are just completely

2653
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:53,000
ignoring that and I think, you 
know, some of the reason he was 

2654
02:18:53,000 --> 02:18:56,400
so depressed, early on was this 
retirement risk, he's practicing

2655
02:18:56,400 --> 02:18:59,700
fully at OTAs now like guys, 
he's the retirement risk is like

2656
02:18:59,799 --> 02:19:02,500
dead for him at this point. 
So I think it's a great point 

2657
02:19:02,500 --> 02:19:04,600
though, because that's what 
happens with like a boring 

2658
02:19:04,600 --> 02:19:07,299
player, his ATP gets set in 
stone for something stupid like 

2659
02:19:07,299 --> 02:19:09,500
that, like he might retire or 
not necessarily stupid in 

2660
02:19:09,500 --> 02:19:12,500
February, but it never adjusts 
when you never recovers. 

2661
02:19:12,500 --> 02:19:14,100
Yeah. 
Because he's not exciting. 

2662
02:19:14,100 --> 02:19:16,100
So he's never going to Rock It 
Up boards, right? 

2663
02:19:16,299 --> 02:19:18,700
Yeah, but he's just Ennis price.
Now, he's It's a good pic. 

2664
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:21,900
Yeah, he's Miss price and I 
think the fact that like cop is 

2665
02:19:21,900 --> 02:19:24,600
really the only guy that's 
exciting to stack. 

2666
02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:28,100
Em with means is ATP is probably
going to stay depressed for a 

2667
02:19:28,108 --> 02:19:31,900
while but like man, when I'm 
like box out at quarterback, the

2668
02:19:32,100 --> 02:19:35,600
Stafford van Jefferson Tyler 
higbee, you know, throat 22 at 

2669
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:38,900
then there, if you're Davis, 
that's like a really fun 

2670
02:19:38,900 --> 02:19:44,200
backdoor stack that I think in 
payoff so yep. 

2671
02:19:45,900 --> 02:19:48,000
Wait, who did you say? 
Just that come with that? 

2672
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:51,300
A nice feature in Jefferson. 
I said, no, I said then I said 

2673
02:19:51,300 --> 02:19:54,000
van, I thought you, I thought 
you were on my team. 

2674
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:55,900
It didn't even mention van 
because that would have been 

2675
02:19:55,900 --> 02:19:59,800
great but I missed it my bad. 
Yeah, no reason to mention van. 

2676
02:20:01,000 --> 02:20:06,600
Thanks. 
Anyways, I gotta just like any 

2677
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:12,500
golf today. 
His wide receiver to When I was 

2678
02:20:12,500 --> 02:20:15,000
on the airplane last week's show
and you were touting Koenig all 

2679
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:16,600
day, and there was nothing I 
could do to stop it. 

2680
02:20:16,600 --> 02:20:20,400
Those, those low point for me, 
Kenny Galilee Revenge game the 

2681
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:28,000
Giants true week. 17, let's 
close this down. 

2682
02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:33,200
Anyone, anyone have anything 
they want to share for what's 

2683
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:35,100
coming up this week? 
I think I, you know, if you're 

2684
02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:37,200
listening to this, show your two
hours, 20 minutes in. 

2685
02:20:37,200 --> 02:20:39,500
Look, if you made it 2 hours and
20 minutes in and you don't know

2686
02:20:39,500 --> 02:20:42,200
where to find us on. 
Better than honestly got help 

2687
02:20:42,200 --> 02:20:43,500
you. 
I will. 

2688
02:20:43,600 --> 02:20:47,700
Yeah, I had an announcement 
today on legendary upside that I

2689
02:20:47,700 --> 02:20:49,300
just had a draft King special 
ranking. 

2690
02:20:49,300 --> 02:20:52,200
So if you want to use the the 
rankings over on DraftKings, you

2691
02:20:52,200 --> 02:20:54,500
can now do that. 
Legendary of said.com. 

2692
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:56,800
Go, download and upload them all
that. 

2693
02:20:56,800 --> 02:21:00,700
Good stuff, can't wait. 
Love it. 

2694
02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:03,800
We will see you guys next week.
