All right, folks tonight on ship chasing we try to capture
lightning in a bottle for the second time last year.
Mike Leone came on these Airwaves the show got too late
for him and he said hey I got to get one of my training runs in
and so what did he do? He went out for a run while we
drafted and I said, you know what, Mike, I'm gonna join you.
For that tonight, we're gonna give it a shot.
Again, it's raining out here by V will see how my phone holds up
how the reception holds up, but we are going to talk some best
of all with Mike Leone, and then we are going to hop into a
draft, and Mike, and I are going to hit the road.
Let's see how it goes. Pat prior homos, Anita hand
handjob exercises, germar Chase. Alright, then grasp at crane,
Michael Leone? How are we doing tonight,
fellas? Good excited, any back?
Talk with you guys. It's been a little bit.
I know how it feels like we have you on fairly regularly but I
don't know. Times, flying.
I mean, was it just at the beginning of draft season when
you were last on? I think so.
Right, right. After the manifesto, right?
Oh yeah yeah, yeah. I miss that one.
That was it was a couple months. It's ago, right?
Got him. Yeah, I hope that was just
before the NFL after 153, BBM drafts deep.
Now it's so just like it does seem like we've already lived a
lifetime Gretch. You said you just actually
recently got to dive into the manifesto now.
Yeah, UD bro. Yeah famously not UD bro.
Prior I had got into it and read through it and looked at it a
little bit, but it's so involved that not being somebody who was
actually drafting a lot of these best ball teams.
I didn't like read it closely. But yeah I have recently been
reading it really closely and I'm like, it's just it's really
good shit. I mean could work Leone and I'm
thank you all the stacking stuff is like I'm doing a bunch of
these slows and I'm finishing them up and I'm just like, super
excited to apply it. Like, I thought all the
information on optimal amounts of players.
Instax the the 2q B 3Q be discussion, fellows to be very
fascinating. So anyway, anyone hasn't checked
out it's all free over to stablish the Run.
Great stuff. You got to be careful though,
grach kids you'll get Whiplash. Like I get Whiplash, reading the
manifesto and then doing a draft with Shawn.
You know what, I got like this ATP value of I had in Sean's.
Like, fuck it, we're reaching 40, all right, all right, but it
is super fun to start to blend all of those elements and trying
to accomplish all those little micro edges outlined in there
while also getting your guys and staying on target, but it is a
fun dichotomy in the, the comments on the show's been
doing with all the, you guys. Is is hilarious.
Everyone really loves the different perspectives because
they are coming out of completely different angles.
I like the thing on 8e P value is it's the best proxy we have
for like objective rankings of the players.
But if you legitimately had better rankings like You know,
seagull value might be more predictive than they did.
He tell you you know what I mean.
So but it is it is fun. If we knew the scores we
wouldn't worry about ATP value. We would just do ya guys or if
you just like if you're better than the market at predicting
players, you obviously have some blend which is like what we're
trying to do a DTR and seagull. I you know, pushes a little bit
more towards his own ranks whereas like I'm waiting ATP
more. But the point is that like you
you shouldn't only be drafting ATP value.
This is the stuff that as I was reading through the manifesto in
In-depth. Like every like it's obviously
incredibly good detailed incredibly well sourced, I love
the way you write because you're like, you know, there are
caveats here and it's like, very easy to follow.
What you're willing to actually take a stand on.
But what there's stuff, you know, where their stuff that's
like open to interpretation, but are all of the different layers
and all the different things. And it's been a big discussion
this off season and best of all there was the pyramid that you
guys already tear. Like I think Herzig made it into
our what I look for all the things.
Yeah, I think about for each of those it's like this is the
correct way to do it or the way that you would want to do it.
But also the draft itself is going to drive you a certain
direction and you have to be willing to like think outside
the box a little bit about where like where can you go off
because like to do a perfectly idealistic draft that does
exactly what the manifesto says is not going to happen.
Very yeah for sure. I'm team.
Flexibility all the way Pat's written about the flexibility
with Staffing. The like go ahead and slight me
bro, article. And yeah, you've got to be
flexible. Also like it's a real balancing
act with something. I can manifest their like
getting a large enough sample but like also being specific
enough that it is actually telling us something.
So there's a lot of stuff with like player archetypes and
specific players, that's like going to totally change things
like with stackins, the easiest one for taking Justin fields or
for whatever that that's gonna completely switch.
The one thing I've On interesting thinking about it
and like the impact is stacking in that article is I've talked
about a little bit before but it does seem to me that there's I
think like it's almost more valuable than in DFS with the
best ball scoring and not having to use the correlated players.
I know you guys have talked about it, some but I haven't
like, actually, like simulated anything to, like prove this as
true, but I definitely think there's something there, where,
like, having the correlation as an option but not having to use
those players actually makes It's the, you know, the
correlation more important than you'd expect meaning like you
could have. What do you mean by that?
Is like you can oversee like three or four players but you
don't actually have to use all fours.
Like if you're double stacking your burrow with, with Jason
Higgins and DFS and Chase as the alpha game and then Higgins is
like kind of shitty, right? Like you're probably going to
lose to some some single Stacks that are Burnham and changed,
right? But if your in best of all, you
don't have to use T Higgins of score that week, you know, and
you might use th Score of the week before.
Actually. Yeah distribution weekly.
So like you get the optionality of using the correlation it bro.
Goes off and maybe both receivers go nuts.
But like you don't have to use it because you've got other
receivers that can play in that spot and same thing with game
stack. And like sometimes I do some of
the sharp players in DFS, actually think like game,
stacking up at certain points and certain contest is actually
the over done by the field but like you have to use those
players scores. Like there's definitely and I
think the optionality Aspect of it, change it probably change
yet. You can be like directionally
accurate is really what it is is that you need that game to go
off but you have multiple outs for the clicking exact, you'll
have to be perfect in predicting exactly how the game will go
off. You can have guys from that from
those games and you need enough of them to hit your lineup.
But yeah I mean I think we played DFS differently if we had
18 roster spots in DFS you know yeah you'd build like these.
Lot of games tax rate, like and even you'd correlate you just,
you wouldn't have to pick the players.
Exactly, right. And yeah, I mean, there'd be the
only, I got a question for you haven't flown this theories.
Like I have all these theories that might be completely wrong,
but since I'm just starting to hammer a bunch of my own drafts,
I'm like yeah I got all these ideas.
I want to talk about and I floated this a couple times and
they'll on shows lot. So I think on ship chasing an on
a VP chasing. Maybe but this idea that with
like the correlation and the stacking and how your And of
reducing things you want to get, right?
That, I don't, I don't necessarily like the ones that
are really pricey stacks and I like the the Eagles one that
people are doing when they're taking a trip round the top five
so they can get Devon to Smith and khz at the two three turn
and get all three of them as their first three picks and how
that boxes you out of any other players in the top 45 or like
the other one is obviously the Chase Higgins.
And then burrow in the fourth it's three of your first four
picks, or maybe you can throw in the fifth, it becomes around but
like it's still a lot in the Bangles.
My fear has been like I kind of almost want to be unstacked or
uncorrelated and I first three four rounds because that's where
you have a lot of really good players.
And a lot of them don't even necessarily need games to blow
up to score. Well, like Cooper cup was an
example, we used to have a huge game, even if there's not a huge
blow-up game in week 17, but in DFS, like we talked about this
with the premium Stacks up when you have my home.
So, when I think of Mahomes Tyreke and Kelsey back, when
Tyreke was there, and you had to pay so much of your cap to do
that stack, and how hard it was to actually We play that doubles
that double and even fill out a viable lineup.
Do you think there's anything to this that like we should almost
especially as it tournaments are huge?
We should almost want to be parlaying uncorrelated outcomes
because he there aren't like there's a differentiation
element to just having random players that aren't correlated
in the first three, four rounds. But then like limiting the
things we have to get right later with our Stacks like
cheap. Yeah I mean honestly I don't
know like it's one of those ones.
Pretty difficult to. Parse, I've gone both ways on
it. Like, I've done the Chase
Higgins Borough when they've been at the top of my board but
like, without intentionally kind of going for it.
I think the difference from DFS is on a week-to-week basis.
Like the first 14 weeks to advance, you don't have to be
perfect. So there can be a better, you
know, round to wide receiver than Higgins.
Like, in your Chase, Higgins, example, and you still build
Build a team that's like reducing things you have to get
right. In terms of like the Bangles
passing offense is just great and you're still probably going
to advance in that circumstance. And then when you get to the
playoffs you get some of that stack and optionality that we
talked about where you can use the double stack but you don't
necessarily have to. But there's certainly I asked
like really early in the draft season.
I asked Pete and I'm Pat in our discard chat, I had taken Tyreke
in the first round and I was like between waddle and a summer
wide receiver. I'm like do I stack Miami or do
I kind of just hope that I can? Get like the double Alpha
Seasons by taking. I think at that point of time on
our I was going a little bit later.
I was like four guys just go online rock over waddle and I
think Pat and Pete. Each gave me a different answer,
so yeah, it's complicated. I want I wanted the stack for
me, it comes down. I think how big the final round
is matters a lot, right? The, the bigger, the final
round, they'll the more I would lean towards what you're saying,
Ben where I would want to have Uncorrelated pieces of top.
Hope those are the guys you need in the final there, each
smashing, maybe maybe your BBM or puppy.
So that's what I was kind of coming out of from is like these
are ya tournaments? I think you can do both in that.
I think I think the the final round especially in the puppy
but even a BBM like I don't think you need to be perfect at
Big it's not that big. Yeah.
It's under 500 people like it's a small field DFS tournament
basically so if you happen to give Jalen Hurd says a Monster
Week in you know, week 15 or 16 and then again week 17 like I
think you're you're as long as you can get that team through
like your maid pretty happy. You've built with those three of
the whale coming in, as more like, I mean, maybe, maybe it
can be just like, the Bangles are, so valuable that they're
all League winner. So it's three.
It's like those there's going to be League winners in the top 50
picks like that's why I mean we're pretty good about it.
Sweet. Its weak, winners is really what
it comes back to its who wins. I like I think weekly is easier
to say like any roster I mean not any roster but a stacked
roster like I guess I wouldn't make this case for winning one
week. It's more about like are you
limiting your ceiling for the season?
I guess, I don't know. They probably are a little bit
where like, like the Tyreke waddle example, I mean it's
tough because both those guys are like, top five, it's oh
yeah. That's what like like the chase
Hagen's example, you know what? Let's say you're between Higgins
and Devonte Smith, like I'm usually probably going to vantaa
Smith and that point in time where I'm hoping to get both
guys with the alpha, you know, season and that also, like, with
the regular season prizes, probably increases your odds a
little bit, but I don't know with it.
Not having to be perfect in the regular season to advance
though. I don't think if you have to be
that perfect. I guess so Mike.
Okay with the correlation but I'm So, I'm not reaching for it,
like, I am, you know, when we start to get into the double
digit rounds, or even, like the middle late single-digit round,
so, like your point that I'm not, like, I get Chase.
I'm not like kitchen to get Higgins.
In fact, usually, it's I'm more thinking like you are aware if
Higgins is the best pick their 23 because the way it broke, I'm
taking him, but I kind of rather, you know, Devante Smith,
you're falling, me God. Yeah, what, you know, not, I
know it's not one for one with the DFS.
Comparison know what, when we're thinking about Stacks, like
remember when Tyra kill and Kelsey were on the Chiefs and
based on salaries, it was almost impossible to premium stack.
Those guys the Mahomes, Kelsey, he'll like you were hamstringing
the rest of your lineup. Say, with the Eagles last year,
sometimes they'd be a little bit more doable because Devonte
Smith salary would be more in the mid-range or t Higgins
would. So that's the only thing like
and again I know it's not 141 but thinking about how much that
hamstring your line up like you would need Mahomes Kelsey.
And he'll to each go for like 30 plus Pay that off because the
computer cost is all the other high price players on the Slate
and someone some other high-priced player at some
position on the Slate might be well not sort of this and their
construction, do the construction Parts, different
don't like so that part still applicable a little bit to
season-long where you've got the same opportunity cost with other
high price Players. But the in terms of the roster
building though it's not the same because you don't have to
shove like a bunch of 3K, guys, to make it work, like, you've
got your 18 rounds and you're going to have a In rounds, no
matter who you take, you know what I mean.
Like, it's not like yeah, 7K tight end and 8K wide receiver
and you can barely fill out the line up.
Exactly. Yeah, you don't get like
punished for it. Then the same way, like, with
like that example, with Tyree coming Tyreke on the Chiefs, you
can have these massive game. So, I mean, you could easily see
an example where Mahomes goes off in week. 16 brings along.
Tyreke Tyreke is like massive Chalk in the final and then
like, if you if you have a Word from Tyreke but it's leverage
and Kelsey is crushing and your tight end spot.
I mean, I think that would be a be awesome.
Like you'll fill out your second round, pick some other area or
you know your number one wide receiver spot.
You're going to need someone to come through for you in a big
way. But it's like not actually I
think that's an advantage. Not a disadvantage.
You guys are helping me see the merits of it for sure.
Yeah I do like at least in like the borough example or say even
the Dolphins. Well the fact that you are
getting the quarterback, a little cheaper in both of those
instances, makes it a little more palatable to me versus the
Eagles. One where you're burning those
little research, he was one of you got to reach little bit
right? Like you got to reach on hurts
and to, I guess, you got a whole really Brown is working in order
to get it look top five. I think you're giving up a lot
of projected points. Do we were just, we hadn't liked
to some meetings in Chicago. The earlier this week, we were
talking about AJ Brown that's like, People think we don't like
AJ Brown and it's like, he's going.
He's going so early. Like, he was out, targeted or
targeted the same. As Devon says, Smith.
Like I prefer AJ rounded about to Smith.
This is just a side tangent, AG around in particular, but yeah,
to your point like, it's just, I mean, he's just priced, really?
I've already I've already talked negatively about DJ more spry so
I have no comment on this. I actually I like moment at
Price foot. Let me ask you guys this because
I had AJ Brown. I'm not doing a job.
Roundabout Smith one very often because I Don't think I can get
jail and hurts coming back in any kind of reasonable rate.
Like, most of the time, I'm just gonna be stuck with them, but I
did go for it in one draft and did not get Jalen hurts.
But then I just took naked, Josh Allen in the third.
I was like, I kind of like this, like, I feel like I have the
like, obviously, you need a monster game from Alan but now
in a situation where one of those guys fails Major Brown.
Adam, Ozzie Smith, like kind of like fails, like maybe, maybe,
like, I cap. Sure through those guys or
through one of those guys, like, a lot of a Hertz is doing and
then Alan, you know, I'm going to need to blow up as well.
I'll stack him but he's so easy to stack with guys later.
Yeah, I feel like I yeah, it's interesting.
I don't know if I would necessarily say I like that but
I think like one of these things just like stepping back as just
like the randomness of all this is like, right?
I don't know. Who knows at least I have like a
I have a heavy hitter to go against hurts.
Who's having a hell of a game and weeks of?
Yeah, I was worried that better to have the heavy.
Also with Hertz or did you say like of Constructor it out
lately? Yeah.
Well and if you if you approach it almost with the way that we
would think about building, you know, Gauntlet teams for the NFL
playoff contest where you were. If you said at the beginning,
the contest I want to build for a Chiefs Eagles, Super Bowl.
That was really hard to do based on the atp's.
If you say, I want to go into a draft and I want some teams
where I'm at heavy Eagles and bills really the only way to do
that is through the top two Eagles wide receivers because
the Bill's offer so many late stacking options in the way.
The Eagles do, right? So if you were to do that, at
least you have gave the tight ends all that stuff with eagles.
I mean got it off the board and it's Kenny gained while in the
the running backs. I mean, there's nothing after
nothing left, which is kind of a way.
Like one thing you can say for that stack is like you've
captured. I mean Goddard is it
disrespectful to God her, but you've kind of captured the
whole offense and that's definitely true of the Tyreke
and waddle stack, where it's like, I have the Dolphins now.
You sign me onto like I'll survive.
I got the whole office. Since they blow up, I'm good.
Yeah, the thing that's interesting about like the
borough in Miami examples is people will not want to take
those guys on stacked and that's why they fall.
Whereas people are very willing to take hurts in Allen unstacked
and so you're just not, you can Corner the market on Eagles,
wide receivers early. It doesn't matter.
Someone stabs it matter at all. Yeah, Yeah, you can get ber I've
done when I've done the borough. He is Chase.
It's like round five Borough usually Yeah.
Like that's pretty good but anything else Mike sends like
writing the manifesto doing a bunch of drafts have like
putting anything into practice from the manifesto, been Harder
Than You envisioned or things where you're seeing the board
more clearly just curious. Now that you have some drops
under your belt, I've been drafting all sorts of
structures. I guess, like just kind of being
all over the place, like the being flexible thing.
It's the room you get in is so much better.
Audience and what you're going to do, you know, I've got some
some high tea drafts with like three running backs in the first
five rounds and then I've got, you know, drafts where I haven't
touched your running back until around eight.
So like all over the place. I guess in general, I've been
trying a little bit more to get the my late-round running backs.
I've been trying to get more like the early double did your
rounds. I think Pat talked about a
little bit too, like that's a big point of emphasis remain to.
Yeah. Like I think these guys just
have a much better hit rate it Easy to talk ourselves into the
really late round guys. But you know, once you start
getting past the guys with like a 150, a teepee.
These guys are really shaky. Yeah, so what are you taking
late? Very late.
So I'm usually taking tight end, I think early in the draft
season. I'm like more open to the three
quarterback or three tight end stuff.
Just because you're getting an actual starters late in the
draft. I know like Siegel and some of
you guys not all of you guys aren't a Sam Howell and, and
like Desmond, Fritter late. So there's long.
As you can take, like, Pat, you want to, you want to comment on
Jahan Dotson coming out today. Day and just firmly saying Sam.
How's our starter is it did that happen?
My good fortune or less o? God hear that, but that's
fantastic. Whoo.
Oh wow. Yeah, I got into it with Eric
Baum for and Spike week. Discord for like two hours on
how? So if you're curious for my
updated Howell thoughts, pre Jehan Dotson comment, but, but
still pretty recent, you can go get your check that out.
I've been taking a lot of pretty late.
Oh, a purdy I'm in on like I feel like the you know I do like
it a team that's committed to their quarterback and they seem
pretty committed to prove her tea is like a Really good.
I was like, very Pro. Lance, a few months ago and
saying like yadda, yadda, his party's elbow can't possibly be
healthy. In six, seven, eight months,
everything is saying that it is and I didn't understand the
injury. Not a doctor pretty seems like
he's very clearly going to play this year and they want him to
be the guy. He's a good price.
I was looking to stop when I'm tired, I don't I'm I'm I need to
get more I'm because I'm not like a girl.
Passive about getting him. I stack that game up a lot but
then if I get pretty you know like I won't like make sure I
get permanent basically because I'll be like I can get some
other. Yeah, ground quarterback and I
still have the game and then I don't need to be right.
But I'm now changing my opinion were.
All right I feel like he's headed do need to be right?
Because if you pay Depot kid'll are you crawl expensive?
You pay those prices? You can't have Lance start?
Yeah, you think they're all? I think they're all pretty cheap
if it is pretty right. Chief.
Malia the too expensive if it's Lance for sure.
The probably a little too expensive if it's Donald but
they're cheap if it's pretty there.
Yeah. They seem about right to me.
But yeah, one when I do get them though, I'm almost like always
just like in my brain. Like okay, this is a pretty
team. Like I don't take those guys a
lot but whenever I do, what do you think been about?
So I get the Halo bet in isolation.
I'm worried though. If it is how like that's good
for the bad on how I'm worried about like McLaren.
Who I keep ending up with sometimes just weird spot in the
draft where you just need to take wide receiver there.
Like the impact I could have because like what if Hollis
sucks? And he's like a Russian
quarterback, I don't know that. I could just see that he's
mobile. But his first two years is not a
see, the big thing he didn't run really at all and he was
actually really good from a passing perspective.
He was a really high like touted Prospect out of high school and
was a like the top quarterback in the class out of high school.
Right. Pat like he was a real and he
was like a yeah good thrower of the foot.
High schools on him saying really good as first two years
at UNC when they had Michael Carter and what Javonte and they
had D Ami Brown, they like NFL players and then when those guys
all left, he ran for eight hundred yards, his junior year,
which was the point that like a like Sean has made a ton of
times we talked about on bananas, like he did it both
ways. He carried the team on his back
became a Russian quarterback, when he had to.
But the thing that I've been playing with Howell is his
passing upside has to be higher than Jacoby, percepts, who was
never been good until last year. I've never been a starter two
consecutive years been on four different teams.
The last four seasons for set played, pretty good football for
the Browns last year. I wanted to take a longer look
at who he actually is. He's not like, he's a good
backup quarterback, but he's not a high ceiling player.
He's a, he can maybe be competent type of player.
That the thing with Hal for me is he could Elevate McLaren dots
in those guys. That's the way I've been.
I actually agree with that. That's, that's not my concern
with how I think he can Elevate. I think he's going to take
chances. I think he's gonna do some fun
stuff. I like McLaren and Datsun a lot.
I think that they're both really good pics.
But part of the reason I like them is that I also think she
coherence. It's a good backup and I don't
care who starts a quarterback for.
Yeah, the Commander's I just want good quarterback play so
you guys are making me feel better about McLaren with, with
Howell, but I still think if I'm just taking McLaren unstacked at
rather Force up be the quarterback.
But I, yeah, I kind of would rather have reception, it's
gonna be a really concentrated route scenario, like, he can
Have like, damn, I mean, I guess maybe because it just so easy to
be like, well, you can have the Amari Cooper season like that's
in my head, like, the thing with hot, like, how often gets talked
about like, how much he rushed in college, which he did Rush a
lot as a junior, but he took a shitload of saxes.
His sack right? / pressured.
Snap was higher than Malik Willis's in college.
So that's to me, like, I'm just going to have a hard time,
buying any of, like the training camp stuff because I, I just, I
don't know if he can't execute the offense.
I don't think that's gonna last Just he's not gonna last very
long, if special, it's not winning games and they're over
unders like six and a half, so they're not expected to.
Yeah, I guess in it still goes both ways because I do think.
Don't you think the most likely scenario, though, in the same
way, that Ritter finished the season for the Falcons last year
over Mariota, is that even if Hal struggled early like her?
I guess it would depend how good their, their team was right of
like how would make sense of being the guy who finishes the
season, right? Like what if they're not a
playoff Contender? What's the point of rolling?
Brissette out there the last five weeks, right?
Teams are so stupid though. Yeah.
And I've so I've made the point again, you know?
The hot seat thing, I think is another major issue with how and
it's a major issue because the most likely candidate to replace
Ron Rivera when he most likely has fired this year is Eric the
enemy who has not gotten a chance and it seems like kind of
obviously they should have gotten a chance before this, but
he essentially is the young player in the scenario.
He's the one who's trying to show that he is worthy of more
opportunity in the future. I think he would be playing that
quarterback. Who's executing his offense?
I don't think he would be scouting.
Whichever Quarterback is going to be the long-term franchise
option for the Commander's. So but one thing I would say and
I agree with all of that but like I think you're making a
pretty big assumption that howl. I mean there's scenarios, we
won't be able to execute but like he won't and percent will.
Like I think percent is a confident back welfare.
Not also be bad enough that they could lose a lot of games with
percent under Center and they do like we need to bench him like I
think one of the outcomes possible as hell starts to
season. Think we're all afraid that he
gets bench 4% action, that might happen, but then percent might
then get benched again they go back to How like Pete was saying
they're like actually our offense looked a little bit
more, had more to it when L was playing in the kind of go back
and forth a little bit but you get like 10 games out of Howell.
I still think he's a viable pick in the 20th round if you're
getting 10 games out. Yeah I don't I don't know if the
case for a house that he gets bench but then Jacoby so bad.
He gets the job back again. No I'm not.
I know. I know that really hurts you as
part of you. That's not what I want in a
three. Black belt.
I haven't been saying it as like a backstop worst case scenario.
I know I'm, I know but, but, but I do think that the, the, the
times that I'm most interested in how is when I have an elite
quarterback because then I'm like, I don't know what's going
to happen with this guy, but I might not even need them.
Like, I might like get to games like if they at the price that
I'm paying for these Lee, quarterbacks, if I get two games
out of how that might be enough to get me through and then I'm
probably right in my I'll eat guy the in otago, Cuba in a to
keep be built. Yeah, so I'm doing him in 3qb
builds where I'm not taking of quarterback before like pick one
fifty. Yeah, I don't want him as part
of those because I want, I want you guys who have jobs the whole
sees, like, basically those guys probably don't have that much
weekly upside. So I want a guy who every week
is going to have a chance to go into my life.
If he misses, like five games of the season because he's been
briefly benched or whatever. I think I really hurts my
chances of advancing. I'm already kind of behind the
eight ball in a three-quarter length.
Well, to begin with based on the last few years.
Yeah, that makes sense. But what couldn't you try to
have two of those guys? And one that actually has
weekly. Like I think how has weekly
upside is the thing, right? But you just have a game.
Start question mark. Yeah, how has we weekly upside?
For sure. I think, I think he does, but it
it's like if you don't have like, I like pairing it with Mac
Jones. It's like, okay.
Well, I get so crafty confidently about like, 17 games
out of Mike Jones and he's probably going to be what you
just described as part of a three quarter.
I filled words. Yeah, he's got to play every
week and hopefully I get some usable games out of them.
But then how will has some more ceiling?
I think on a weekly basis? Yeah, if you do like, Pick It
Mac Jones & Howell, and how's the star over here?
I think you're gonna be pretty happy.
Yeah. I've probably done that exact
thing or Purdy and I mean, pretty, how will you get a lot
of game started? Risk of try.
Not to two of those guys. Kyler is another one that has a
game started risk. But I, I like those guys on the
contrary, I let those guys in the 3qb build, where one has
some game starts risk, but I want my quarterbacks to play
games. I'm just like this.
That, fuck this up for me like that.
I think he's completely do you guys probably don't matter?
Just don't fuck it up. Like I've nailed the earlier
pictures. Don't fuck this team up, guys.
That's one thing that quarterback one thing I'm
starting to do a little bit. More is dig into the playoff
schedules and I think, Brian and I are actually going to talk
about this on lows tomorrow, but some cold water on both the Mac
Jones and the Sam Howell stuff. And those are two guys, I like
is their, Playoff schedules are brutal Washington's at the Jets
in week, 16, cold weather game against one of the best football
teams in football and then at home versus the Niners.
One of the best defenses, Mac Jones on the road in Denver in
the cold in December. Then on the road in Buffalo in
December or January. So, like the schedule stuff?
Is these Lego? Might do dead.
No big crunch. I've been trapped in those guys,
too. But I'm starting to layer that
into my thought. With some of these guys will go
back to Oregon next week. Ha ha ha.
Yeah. So it's, it's tough.
It's tough. Noted graphic, quarterbacks that
play games, but I do I do think if you just take those with job
security, it's an actual I differentiating strategy.
Right now, it's on point to pound the table.
These are actually the average team total for Washington for
the season is like, Nineteen point six and then for the three
playoff weeks, it's 17.8. Yeah.
And that sucks. Yeah.
And that's a decent drop off. That's one of the biggest gap on
the 19.6 might thing on house. Like, oh, we maybe this is just
a, you know, a systemic Miss and Washington's way better than
this because howl, so good. But you're talking about the gap
between, I mean, and that's a problem even if that's a miss
and they're better than that. Than it's still tough schedule
in the playoffs. I mean, hey guys, it's hard but
the chat You guys want me to tell you?
It's going to be cold in New England, on January 1st.
Obviously to you. Where do you live, Gerardo?
Where do you live? The only is it, is it ever like
unseasonable warm in Buffalo? A January 1st?
No, I Jack Miller just put together a Cheap for us.
Just some of the books offer like the actual light spread in
total for every single week. So he just averaged out weeks
14, 14 and then weeks 15 to 16. So I don't it doesn't look like
there's a ton of teams where it matters a lot but Washington's
definitely not not great. Yeah.
And if anyone who plays DFS knows how this stuff comes into
play but people what happens people.
Are saying like it gets double counted too much, which
definitely happens. But Leone you could tell the
people when those outdoor cold weather games, even if it's not
like 60 mph winds, like the totals, come down, in those
environments. There's also some risk that
you're dead. I mean, there's just that it's,
you know, the totals come down but a lot of times it's like
down and it's fine, you know, it's not what we want but it's
fine. But then there's some weeks
especially like Cleveland, like I get worried about Cleveland's
don't last Few years they've had like one or two pounds a year
that had just been yet, like the totally dressed.
And then we had I mean, we had last year during the playoff
weeks, the whole Northeast that one time with like everything.
You know the bills were playing Chicago and was crazy.
Cold Cleveland was one of them and they played New Orleans.
Like there was just a whole I mean as a tiebreaker like you'd
rather be in warm weather or in a dome like I've been, yeah it's
pretty obvious fact that there's this much pushback.
To it in the chat shows me? It's maybe one of the few edges
remaining here. That people it's like the GFS
players prioritize Dome games heavily and yet the best
ballplayers don't want to think about it.
This is a really good example of probabilistic thinking and we're
all trying to say and talk about how, like, yeah, maybe it's only
like 20 percent or less of the outcomes that it's really
significant or impacts the game, but that does it shift the range
of probabilities it shifts the way, we would consider the play
and then there's a lot of people Like yeah, eighty percent of the
time. It's fine like fuck off.
Why are you guys even talking about this?
You know what I mean? Like and People do struggle with
probably this difficult though, because in order to really do
it, you probably need to lower every player in those games
slightly in your rankings. Because once you take that
player, I think you should still be building around them and
correlating like that game is going to go off because you just
took a player from the game so you're going to need points in
that game. Yeah.
And then it's like how much do you knock each player?
Because it's going to feel like too much when I need to solve it
in some of its already baked in and like the things Michael.
Michael sorry for the official name, looking at the average
Vegas total four weeks 15 through 17 like you can go
through and look at those the Chiefs have the highest twenty
seven point two five average 15 through 17.
The Cardinals are at the lowest 15 .17 almost 12 points lower.
The market is down on Arizona the market is high on Casey but
sometimes in between there you can find some of those that are
a little interesting. If people are, you know, maybe
overpricing relative to certain situations, so I do recommend
looking NG at that stuff. Not double counting it, but it's
just in Gretsch. I'm still gonna drop pal.
I'm still going to drop back down, but it is just a little
thing that I'm putting in my head to be a little careful
with. Yeah it's not like you're moving
guys. A full round, you know, I mean
just like stacking. Like you're just.
These are all like weighted tiebreakers right?
Like right Pat you made a comment earlier.
When I bring up collar, you you're not saying cal, cal fish
play to all to the room. It's all three of you.
He's going, he's going to be hurt and then like, people like
that, what if he comes back early?
But he's not going to run as much either, right?
Like he's not a good so he's got a lot of variants and draft
room. So I'm fine taking on money,
really Falls a lot and just taking the gamble.
I sort of do what I've been doing a little bit, what Pat has
done, where I'll kind of take them with and you eat QB where
I'm only taking two quarterbacks, and then like,
maybe I've Bank a second quarterback upside late in the
season and I don't really need them early.
Especially if you know, the other QB doesn't have an early.
Bye week it is by weeks later but I don't know their team
total across the entire season is unbelievably low.
It's insane. So now unbelievable.
Oh those are good. No, I was just gonna say someone
said that Dome bro. Stuff is entirely different.
What? Why do people like the domes?
Is it maybe? Because they're protecting them
from random weather events. I think they're the exact same
thing Dome and Nando. Um what were you gonna say?
Pat? Nothing matters, anything.
Kitchens? What sketches comment this year?
We just don't know. We just don't know.
You just don't know what the weather's gonna be.
Like I don't like that shit. My thing with Kyler the reason I
have trouble clicking hymns. What heats he feels very
expensive to me for like what you're getting.
Like your we're missing a big chunk of the season with him and
then we know the Cardinals are going to suck.
We don't even know. Is Clayton tune, is it?
Clayton tune their week. One starter mean they could be
horrendous. Like they could be worse than
the The box. And they might want to keep it
that way at the end of the season, like I think delaying
Kyler's return, because they haven't like one more than one
game, you know, he's on the table at least.
Yeah, that's relatively type of like, I do.
These are for organizations. Do they just seem to like rarely
ever actually do that? Like, the guys ready generally
plays? I mean, it's a thing about the
smartest thing in the world and I do think I do think it's an
outcome. Like you said, like it's a no,
I'm not saying it's not but it's a new GM and new coach.
So if you're Gonna do it. You I mean, if I was a sense,
it's just I've yeah. If I was the new GM, I'd be like
I would be, this would be like my my clan because you get one
shot at this and if you get the number one pick, you're gonna be
able to unload Kyler and start fresh.
And then you're essentially going to have like a long run as
so I don't know. I would be.
It would be very tempting for me to do that.
Leone, I'm getting a getting sick of dealing with the chat.
I feel like going on here on might just be a nice.
What you gotta do? I've got a you have one of the
all-time best super chats that you got.
I know I do need to pull that up at this is a more serious note.
So Shane Simpson says sorry to start the stream on a morbid
note but my dad passed away this January.
Very sorry to hear that Shane and I would just really like to
know he's resting easy. So P.
Do you think you could make sure he has a happy?
Day for me and service him, we will definitely service your dad
tonight. Shane we are going to go for a
run and Pat and gradually only and I would lie, I will service
if I will be running down my neighborhood going on servicing
your dad, I guess. It feels weird to say it like
that. But, you know, Different Strokes
for different folks. Shame.
And it's truly sorry to hear about your loss buddy.
Yeah, some so I think this is how we're going to do it because
I'm not going to be here. I think Pat you should maybe
share your screen. Are you willing to do a little
BBM draft? Yeah, they'll be BMI.
I have a little apology that I that I need to make already made
it once on Peach dream earlier today, but apology to slow draft
Nation. Apologies to peep ology to Sam
Sherman for laughing at their ridiculous amount of slow,
drafts, I am now about 130, slow drafts deep because I was like,
I'm sick of multi-tabling the puppy.
I'm just getting this thing done, so I cannot do it.
Because I Max the puppy. Yeah, you have 130 lat so I
think slightly more because I still have some bulldogs and
some chow chows in the mix. They're all active.
Yeah, yeah. I've got it.
I'll share my screen. You'll be able six pack.
You know that when your accountant told you to play a
lot of basketball this year. He meant like price point.
Not just like volume of hey man right here.
It's a pretty good prize of tough.
I'm like I'm this will match this.
Hey, tip from someone who's done this before once.
Yeah. Amy sometimes.
Turn the phone. Turn your Wi-Fi off on your
phone before you head out because it gets all fucked up.
When it switches. Yes.
Wi-Fi will be off. I'm going to switch to my
Bluetooth. Have any other tips?
Because I feel like last year you did it.
Surprisingly, good job. I feel like I'm gonna be like,
Blair Witch Project bouncy? Do you have any like Steadicam
advice? I don't.
It was a blur last year, man. I don't.
All I remember is getting out there.
Turn my advice. Just talk to your neighbors, as
much as possible. How does he do it?
Like I just don't understand how the people who, like, run like
fast are drafting like their actual teams.
It's like, it's one thing to respond to karein as he's
managing the draft for, right? Exactly.
Can't believe people can like run fast and actually drive the
team. It's just boggles my mind.
Yeah. Um, I I'm gonna get set up here.
I'm going to use my item from Dreadful people.
Grow old crew. It's cool.
All right, you guys can look at Pat.
Slow drafts is the only and I get set up here.
Jesus Christ. This is why we're here to be
finished. The puppy was closed today but
there's the puppies. I did about 20 puppies fast, and
then I was like, I think I'm good, I think I'm because when I
do a fast draft, I want to do Basketball Mania.
This point, like, I think it's time to, you know, start yapping
those up or I'm doing some DraftKings stuff.
So is the puppy almost full? Yeah, the puppies like very
close to full. Wow, it's really nice.
Six percent full. Don't want some after the puppy.
I'm sure when's it going to fill.
If it's 96, it's going to feel like tonight or like two days, I
would say it probably feels. Like by from noon on Friday that
would be my guess. Maybe I got a big, a drive
tomorrow during the day schedule.
Listen, you know that the trick where you star everybody on the
team and start everybody on the opposite team and week 17.
I'm doing that, I don't do that. I know the trick and I don't do
it. I do it.
I started doing it on these slow drafts and it has made because
it's annoying right in the first couple pics.
You just want to fire. It feels so fun.
Just stick and move on but I'm making myself.
It every time and I think it has made a big difference.
Like once you gets around for around five you're like oh I
took Drake one and and now Justin Fields here at a value
and I'm going to just to take naked Justin Fields, I might not
have thought to do that. So, yeah, I think that's where
you got to do it because when you're looking here, I got to do
a better job of that. First Leone's, don't have Leone.
It's to remove all these guys are saying it.
It's Gonna Fill before noon tomorrow.
It's going to fill definitely buy them tomorrow around 8 a.m.
which I'm Wes that early. I mean it is pretty big, there's
a 200. So it is for yeah, people are
flying into it right now. Well, can you guys hear me,
okay? Yeah, puppies.
Will someone acknowledge that they can hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you get a little little walk warm up in
right now. I don't know, I just wanted to
make sure you can fucking hear me first.
Start jogging. oh man, I'm getting fucking
we got a Super Chat that says to tell you to pick up the the pace
So, you know, there's five bucks that wants you to dance, all
right, here's Leone. We all did.
Yo. Wow you're so much higher than
Pete. Did he eats?
Well he's walking. He's like in his front yard
right now. Oh Pete's running already.
Oh, he's sprinting. We're waiting on you.
Like the ASMR version of what Pete's doing?
I'm not even Now, we can get it. We had peed himself because he
was so glad when he was running your A lot quieter.
It says, we only serpro the chat big-time fans of what you got
going on here. Mike Leone, Silent Assassin.
It's so much better. The only quality a plus.
All right, so we're on the clock.
Jamar Chase went first, so we get adjusted Jefferson 102 here
of us. What mania?
I think we take it. Hey chip brownie, get unique
guys. Wow.
Chat is ripping into P. We got these gas already shots.
Having a rough show tonight. First of all they ignore that
weather exist and now I fucking run for them all in this stream
right now. I don't think you can
opt out of that seems nuts to me.
We do it for the people. So yeah, a lot of downtime in
between just watch you guys run. Haha, awesomeee row.
How's the road? You know how what's the weather
like out there, dude? It's a beautiful like, run.
It really is. This had a little rain.
I know the chat doesn't really believe that ran this thing that
happens, but it did rain here earlier.
How's that affecting your Cadence or steps per minute?
I think I'm I'm probably not too fast to the PACE right now.
I got so pissed off at the start that I came out of the gate too
hot. Yeah, I'm running a little hot
like 99 minutes and I haven't been running since then why why
are we carrying the show right now?
I just started running back running back, good luck.
And McCaffrey Taylor also did grab the head of cabbage.
Is it over? Like really funny?
When there's like a non bad? You're someone who clearly just
doesn't realize they jumped in his ship chasing draft.
He said, no idea what's going on providers yours.
Yeah, you feeling. I think that's that's what's
gonna happen here. Yeah.
So our Banton Higgins, went where one pick away and we're
all the way to, you know, no man's land at receiver.
Paul. What's funny Pollard?
Yeah, he's there. Yeah policies.
Stephenson January, and even some Legos.
I almost swallowed a bunch of running backs, available Judy,
Judy, Judy went to 10. We got the best wide receiver
Click the wide receiver tabs. Real quick.
Pat Debo DK. Calvin Ridley Keenan, which
Marty Cooper, Christian, Watson. Basically, we're on the wrong.
Turn at wide receiver. Yeah, Frozen are all here.
And then the running backs are here and broken or five turn is
gonna be brutal for wide receiver to because there is
kind of that drop off after midnight, be fine, going Debo or
we could take Anon wide receiver.
Set up our party stack. Depot Burns duck.
Yeah no one will see that coming.
We're on the clock. Freeze Henry Jacobs Andrews, all
the quarterbacks and Debo. Let's let some running backs
while they're going to fall in this room right and grab Debo.
I think what might the room play the room here?
Why the room you're in? Grab a debug receiver boat.
In case that wasn't clear he do. It is Jefferson debose.
Got to be somewhat unique, right?
People doesn't go on that side of the draft, I think he's
worthy of that pick. All right, I'm starting all the
Cowboys, start all the lines. Let's make it tough on the
computer. Actually my camera.
Pat pat don't ever star people on a stream.
Draft rookie move. We only have these are these are
these aren't like guys I'm hoping we get there.
So I it's really no contest who looks
better here. I'm slowing down a little hot to
even start with same. How for you guys.
He's got back to pretty healthy. Let's do it.
I don't think McLaren is going to make it back, but he would be
a nice little mini if he did but there's just, no, it wasn't met.
Clarence. Gonna go on, like two picks.
It has been an on wide receiver, heavy third round.
It's been kind of nice. All the briefs finally goes,
Derrick, Henry goes 310. I mean this is man.
AJ Brown drafter stocks with hurts.
The digs Raptor gets Allen in the third quarter friendly room,
It's nice and slow in. I think in the shower Shadows,
digs waddle Island. And I'm still so excited about
it. Very fun.
I love wild so much. I like, what?
Yeah, he looks great. I think I'm better than Garrett.
Really. Yeah thanks the alpha upside on
Garrett seems like more enticing to me, but I like w a lot.
Yeah, I get that. Why not both?
He's taking both. I didn't Garrett a Lobby in a
puppy and I had like a million 112.
So I just did a Garret Allah, as a Ohio, State stack.
Just a unique. I did get a little unique in the
puppy. What's that combinatorial
owners? Ship at pretty well.
Little cloudy cloudy out there. There goes McLaren DJ more back.
In the middle of the fourth round Drake, London.
All these guys are gone, dude. Ranch motor starting to fall.
I think people are dressing off. Yeah, we're all trying to find
the guy who did that Leone's. So, what you're saying is,
Willingly are sandbagging is ranking to pump your own bags.
Yes, I did. All right, so he Tian fell to
us. What reasons, he's like, take
you to take. This is a this is a crazy crazy
value on ET and I think what did the receivers are you Godwin
Jackson Smith? Jig with Tyler.
Lucky, let's go. You can and Godwin.
He came and got one. Pretty works.
You talk about pretty being a smash at the opening of The
Stream you think he's really making it back to us.
No you've got two rounds too early in this dress.
Yeah. That's not really even a
consideration for me. You bet on the 49er so you bet
on 49ers and you don't think so. Godwin is in a horrendous
situation. We own it.
I'm not even that big. And I you I just think God went
mean, you have to hope. He's better than it was last
year. He was, he looked pretty bad a
number of metrics and I was coming off an ACL tear but
you're like banking on that you're banking on like no, no
he's gonna be all right. Yeah, because every guy who
tears his ACL and looks bad, looks great.
The next year, that always happens and the situation
actually. I'm glad no red flags.
We don't have to worry about any red flags with God.
When it's just will, thank you. I'm glad someone's Could you
give me a call? Let you go.
What's the plan? Dude, you come on street and
breathe through your nose. You're finally.
It's actually Pizza Android. That's huffing and puffing.
Unbelievable. Oh, yeah.
Don't make this an operating system battle.
You want to come out for my nose?
Really come out. What do we end up taking?
If I don't return to a thousand dollars in super chats to show
is done forever issues. An ultimatum an hour into a
stream and a half mile into the running, where I'm at one point
three. Why were you at my God?
You guys are burning. I think I'm about halfway done.
I just did the loop to head back to my house.
Oh yeah, baby, what do they do?
I don't know. I think, you know, it shout out
Leone for sending me as glow sticks.
I don't it's beautiful out right now.
I think that bad. Yeah, I'm pretty solid yellow.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna in defense of the jet.
Oh, Ben we're starting our pain soon, right?
Yes, this weekend, right? Yeah.
Oh yeah. Where we going to start?
We gotta start somewhere spicy. The only divisions I have done
or the East divisions, they're not that spicy, but with the
Bears DJ more, That's the North to the north, but we could, we
could start there. I'm sorry.
I lost you. I was saying I could get the
North's done. But well, you see the East?
Yeah, we'll start on the, I were on the clock.
No water Savers left. It set of Brandin Cooks, Rashad
Bateman could. Here's Tony.
So we could think about that, but Kyle pizza is here.
Oh, Kyle pit, smash, yeah. Let's do it.
Wait, isn't this this what turn is this it?
Yeah, 611 and Bateman is like, the best receiver left.
We have three receivers 702. I kind of feel like we should
just take Bateman and get a fourth receiver.
I like, we literally completely uncorrelated right now.
Yeah, the flexibility what? What?
Back our way into it for leishmaniasis flexibility.
I would suggest. Maybe Brandin Cooks is correlate
with Pollard. I like Cooks, I think better
anyways. We could also go Lawrence, but I
like the receiver here. You like cooked over abatement
Leone, you're saying? Yeah, Dome games, dude.
Don't games well, but I mean, how the hell do people actually
do? This kid Darius, Tony is the ATP
value at wide receiver. He's correlated Cooks, I'm with
Pat correlation. We really got to start building
They have to good tight ends and now the I mean they're also
they're like deep and wide receiver like yeah Nelson
Aguilar is not like anything at. All right, but he's up.
He's like a guy. You need him as a wide receiver
for to run some routes. Like he won't like totally blow
it, Devon do, but wide percent last year like, yes, viable as a
wide receiver, 400 laquon Treadwell.
They brought it. I mean, like, I don't think
these guys are good, but like still have different.
It's not nobody's. Yeah, they're not.
Nobody's yeah. Right.
I like I'll be like the great
call on the depot pick pattern that kind of, let us navigate.
This Avalanche room Machado. You guys, are you guys were on
board with that? I mean, I thought that was you.
Whatever? Good job team.
I think that was it. Yeah,
we have Tony paulartravels CTN. Justin Jefferson Debo Daniel.
What could have been Chris Godwin and Brandin Cooks and
then Kyle pit side n. So we have a little bit of a
cowboy's thing going on. So what could have been Chris
Godwin? Yeah, because it could have been
a 49ers double, which would have been a little bit.
I mean it could have been written that you could remember
night. Yeah it actually we can draft
Danny gray up at so he gets his 49ers Rubble, I prefer John
Jennings but Thanks, I appreciate it.
We're gonna get there were going to have enough.
Go insane, really fine. There's definitely some ways.
We can, we can build this out. I also really looks at seven up
to is not where I thought we would be tonight.
I'll just say that it isn't. I mean, where were your
expectations that wide receivers The Physician is essentially
done. Done they rishabh Amy just wants
a pliers is when Courtland Sutton just went like Michael
Thomas is the last guy who just want as well.
This is where I'm like I'm OK. Even like it s a'ight.
I'm a little earlier, just assuming like it's okay if my
wide receiver isn't the flats right?
We're playing the filter East, I know.
It's like contrary? What we usually do but yeah,
it'll fill three spots and get the other value.
Yeah. Well, you can't like there's
nothing here. Like what are we supposed to do?
We have the tight end isn't even like there's any that much value
because Waller and got hurt when we were interviewing Joe Coogan
just like hypothetically. It's all running the same thing
like we could get the four running backs for each four wide
receivers and still like make it work.
Yeah I guess I feel like we should be hammering running back
a little bit. Now we're outside the wide
receiver could also take care of quarterback.
On this turn. We could double.
Yeah, take care of that. I mean DAC, we close to d'accord
that be too early. We are close to the DAC range,
the guy at the in the one hole has burrow.
So if we want to take just DAC here, we could probably get them
in the early ninth, I would guess.
Yeah, no Cowboys on the team out of the one hole.
So once the ex-husbands is it, I'm sorry, what's tax ATP 100?
It's real, that it's about the right time.
And then cousins, we could reach for by about 10 pixel.
We wanted to Monty Williams James Cook.
So cousins is, wow. Maybe not in this room, but in
some rooms cousins, easy to back door with like a teen drama, but
we can't irritating reason dogs. Well, we have Jefferson so we
don't mean it's a I'm not back toward the other side, how with
him, well we're on the box, we have Javonte Prescott Got
Montgomery, sharpened and you guys are going to play me but
Dima with the correlation. I actually think he's a good
pick at ATP. Anyways, I kind of like it
actually. Let's do it.
I was thinking fryer me that this turn it was completely
uncorrelated. But when a given us that too
tight, anything Got to go Dad, we just go and GAC now.
We've got. Yeah.
I think we go back. Yeah.
Then we could be flexible. If we go, we can still do three
kitties later. Something with like how from
hurting. Just yeah we could still do
pretty. As a single stack that be fine
so he actually went quarterback it but it's up to, you know
fortunately so he's got borough of Gino.
Have you guys seen a bloody out on the road that you have passed
or anything? I'll pass
I'm almost done, but I grab deck.
Do you like the weekend mean from the Super Bowl of few years
ago? You see what it freeze frame for
a second Gibbs. A my God.
You're actually like both good right now.
Maybe that's to rely on the HTTP request year.
Yeah. No I think those are a little
misleading. Right?
Like How many times am I going to fold down to one this year?
Yeah. No, for sure.
I mean, has not scored 16. I feel like you can make like
upside cases and it's correlated.
Yeah, pick 95 correlated. I can't really argue come a long
way from Josh. In round eight last year.
I think I think to Leone's Point like even if there's not as many
goal line carries, there's gonna be a lot of runningback
perceptions because that's just been Jared Goff more or less,
you know, his whole career is getting.
He's the Mobile's that throw from the back.
So I'm going to biggest problem would be that costs?
Just sucks and it's just bad. Yeah.
They they definitely need to score touch.
I like they're not good scores. Many times to your book back a
bit. We got an important question
here. They want to know if this makes
us feel fat since we're not out, running with lazy, I would say.
For sure. They're saying, if I can do my
prison gym class. Yeah.
The the prison gym class that I last attended some time in 2019
we're done. What's like, what's your home
gym situation? In dollars.
There's yeah I do not have a home gym situation pads.
Just pays other people to work out for it.
Yeah it hasn't for some reason, doesn't work for actually my my
gym situation is that I play a lot of pickleball.
I play Pickleball today with Dalton Kate's friend of the show
of stealing lines, little little pickle ball double, so it you
know activity cardio, ice P30 home, he's inside dude you must
have run like a 25 minute. He's drinking some water and I
can hear, but I can't see him. Post that portrait of himself.
You gotta pace yourself to finish.
Now, I'm getting this on, I'm done.
That's a flex. God.
I'm so that's a pretty big. I've just painted this make you
wish you did. Now, I know I want to do this.
The over headphones on P. Can we hear you?
I mean, I hear somebody. Can you hear me?
Yeah, we can. We can actually hear much better
than before. Yeah, this is great.
This is ideal TV right now. You like out of the sauna.
So there's only been like a couple of receivers the last,
like three rounds, I'll sandwich.
So, could it come back to us? We're like, actually take one.
Yeah. Yeah, I think Juju still on the
board. 8:26 15 at least 9:15 Hopkins.
Like this ATP might not be. That's very reflective of his
final. Drop me at all.
I don't know. You just you just went Darnell
Muniz and next one. And he would be right around
ATP. And we took pets and there's
that, we also have Mingo, which is a bring back on etn, we have
Rondell more, which is kind of, a neat, CR value, Khalil,
Herbert, or shot Penny Elijah Mitchell.
We could go natural is another 49er I think Penny's the clear
next. Best running back.
Personally, he just went feel like any wide receiver at every
P. We just kind of taste Mooney on
Bingo Rondell. Your wide receivers top mingoes
the closest in, as a bring back on pit.
He's also 12 picks ahead of ATP, though.
He's not a value. I think we should go Mitchell
and build out the 49ers. Well, we did quickly go.
Mitchell receiver. We go Mitchell quarterback.
Probably, we have four seconds. Yeah, go ahead.
Get Mitchell. Why do we have time?
We don't have to, but it's a, it's a jet stack with Jefferson
and it's Kirk Cousins. Oh, okay.
Yeah, I think. Yeah.
Okay. Take way past ATP.
Yeah, cool. But the guy on the turn has two
quarterbacks to the BET was he wasn't going to take them.
Cool. No, not make sense.
I didn't realize it was so well. The room probably snipers.
Don't like dogs and read PDF. We're looking for now.
Yes, the guy on the turn has Borough.
Gino he just took Rondell and Nico so we're back on the clock
might take the Kirk over Temptation because good we lost.
Yeah. And then we're just kind of like
sucking up whatever wide receivers are there and that's
probably unless there's like, yeah crazy good tight end.
I don't, I don't think Elijah. Mitchell was the right Peck.
I don't know why you were hung up on him.
Like, we're building out the Debo.
Bet we just, it's just one SF player that we have like Herbert
was correlated to Pete's packet. This desk already.
Yeah. Herbert would've been fine, too.
And I just, I also think like Depot and Elijah Mishler.
Probably like vaguely uncorrelated.
Just because you see injury CMC, injury CMC injury baby.
Yeah. They're kind of correlated in
that regard. I guess.
I mean that's like a drawing pin but don't usable.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I like Khalil Herbert a
lot so I just didn't think that Mingo was that great of a pick
their weight. Like still pretty far ahead of
ATP. We've got guys with both DAC and
cousin spring backs that are kind of like in the next few
rounds that we're going to be wanting to take.
I think. So again that for thigh back I
Yeah, I was just kind of talking through a little bit because I
do like Mitchell. I've taken him a decent amount.
I think he's a fun pick. I just don't know that it like I
like him building through like when I played San Fran's passing
day. Yeah, I feel like it's a
different run out for their season where Elijah Mitchell's
having a good year, but I guess the CMC injury Leone.
I mean that is a like that would be a huge hit from both of them.
Yeah. Maybe Herbert was the pick.
The I mean I like Herbert to Michael are you are you
calculating our buckets? Allocated to various positions
while running here? Yeah, it's all up here.
Our wide receiver, buckets sucks.
I see that the chat want to know if you would read our team for
the audio listeners. Now that you're done, I will and
tell until Michael Zimmerman, put some respect on my blazing
5K time right there. While streaming.
So things are changing. I don't know, we'll have to look
back on it. I think it was probably around
twenty four, twenty five. I would think, I don't know,
it's not that. I just, I just finished 2939.
What a so? Who did we?
We set. So we're done at quarterback.
Yeah, yeah, we're done at quarterback.
If we have like a super late / default to us, I think that
would be semi interesting, but other than that, they were done.
Man, rondelle more was he was there.
Yeah, he was there instead of Elijah Mitchell.
I almost feel like we should just take him Rondell and get a.
We could maybe have done that too.
What are we going to be in? Like Jaden read?
Marvin Mims territory? Here, we only have like four
receivers. Now we what do we have for?
Which is? Yeah, not ideal but like I don't
know. Like you can't decide that
receivers are going to be there. Rhonda Moore would have made
some sense though. Yeah, we could have gone wrong.
I mean, it's we'll see what we get but like I mean we can play
to just fill the three wide receiver spots though.
I mean you sort of have to in these rooms a little bit.
Yeah. Like like a few of these super
wide receiver. Have you teams are just going to
be worse versions of all the other teams, right?
Gallops gone. What I mean.
We double up Kirk with Osborne Ocala.
Put them in sense to. Yeah?
Yeah. Put it made sense, I probably
would have been the pick. I mean yeah Osborn's fine or we
could just single it and get some Green Bay dudes.
I mean I guess it dubs is probably gone.
His UD atp's, pretty. Yeah, he just went.
Yeah. Yeah.
Gala, what are we ATP? We click on wide receiver real
quick. What if you just click over?
And there was literally nothing there.
I got a salute leaving, so sometimes just like hope for the
best, but yeah. well, I'm not feeling but I think we need to
be like Who's a bit of a reach, but is a
bring back? I would.
Yeah, I think read makes sense. You read.
Yeah, we're about, I mean, reading shark isn't shark coming
back on something. That's coming back on etn.
Osborne's not going to come back if we don't take them with this
next pick, where is all needle type 1 Thornton?
So just think of Seaver. Yeah, just take.
It was born like I'm good with tae kwon to take one's lighten
up. Camping is like, actually might
be. He's the kind of guy might be a
ninth round. Pick up a couple.
Yeah. I'm like I like charger Osborne.
But okay, let's go. Osborne is who's a double on
Kirk? I think that's.
Yeah. I mean to get the double AT AP
is Kyle. Okay?
I think I don't have a problem at all with Addison there and
Hawkinson. I don't like it either.
I mean, you can see where is my rank, is, he's for down
contingent Play, It's either Addison is hurt or yeah.
You have some reason not good, but he wasn't.
He's been coming Kirk double. The lesson wasn't on the team
after Hawkinson came on last year.
He like he did nothing. So well here,
He also went to the University of Buffalo.
So he's got that going for him which is running at 100.
We did good here. We got some we got some good
correlation on this team after all that's like told you was
gonna happen. Pat.
Yeah. You were really you would really
concerned about correlation the entire time.
Yeah Mr. Flexibility. Over there, was one of my big
takeaways from the manifesto was that you can kind of over
correlate, your teams like said there were some spots where you
can get to where you have like too much stacking with your
quarterbacks. Where it starts to can.
But if you build it in the whole way through, then you, then to
me, that's the flexibilities that I go out.
I kind of hit a dead end with this correlation, but it gave me
another opportunity that I could have built through and I feel
like that's okay. Yeah.
Your reason like to the opposite.
Of what you were saying though. Like if you're okay Lena died
and you don't need to like force it early, right?
Well yeah but if I then if I don't build it in throughout
then I can end up in a situation where Enforcing it late because
I'm like I don't have any correlations and I'm doing like
a fucking Stroud. Bring back both I have run into
that with some of my slows when I wasn't doing it enough yet
because I didn't want to be because I want to be more like
specific on the players. I was picking and I don't have
any exposures even like started, you know?
So I'm just like these are the guys I like I'm going to take
them and then I was like, I got it.
I want to build a correlation after that, but I've run into
that. I know you're talking about, you
can run into spots through like I don't have correlate like the
None. Yeah, I have your stone dead.
You know, just not ideal. It's just it's just really easy
to avoid. If you break a couple ties to
just make sure you have some to make sure you have a couple
paths. Let's give yourself a couple
different routes because what can the way that generally
happens is you kind of put your eggs in one Stacks basket and
then someone comes in and blows it up.
And now, you're like, I don't really have another option for
this team. It was supposed to be this
thing, and now, it's not that Thing and just kind of a weak
team here in Italy. I think we nailed it.
Fine. Like no, no, this is a good
thing I like Tyler. Hell yeah.
Did anybody in the chat? Go for run because of these
guys, I see Jarrett mom saying inspired me first run in a year.
Did that is he saying, he went out and ran while we were
streaming. He must haves, congrats Jarrett.
Yeah, I love that. what is this is probably looking like a three
Titan build for us, just knowing where the available Talent is
Yeah the port has already gone so he just went.
Yeah man. Rap deer stealing all our guys.
Pat now, doing this exercise pet?
Is this the first BBM for draft? You have streamed on your
account. This is the first one I've
streamed. I'm also doing an off my
rankings in solidarity now doing this exercise yourself, Pat.
Do you think it would be possible to win?
Best Ball Mania streaming, all of your drafts and piss boy.
Rubes. I don't think I would win.
Best call me. Nia, let's say that.
I don't think I would win best for me for doing this 149 more
times. Don't worry.
I don't think I am either. It's gonna give you some like
pretty fun unique buildings though that are probably not.
It is. Yeah, as bad as they feel
they're fun. They're unique, we're having so
much fun. I did, I did show you guys in
the chat today. My first for tight in team, not
on my own will but via secret mission on this wall casted and
actually didn't even hate how it turned it out.
You guys have just gotten me but I will say, I'm not doing the
five tight end Anzac will not well for as my Max.
I'm with you. I don't, I don't get the five.
Where's my Max to? I don't, I don't understand the
logic behind it at all. Like for is already hard enough
because you're only starting to but I get it because the capital
solo but danced. I think that we're on the clock
here in a second. Oh yeah, let's see.
Any any any receivers that you guys are interested in at all
here? I like diamond people's Jones.
Okay, that's the Aussie. Foreman is correlated.
In pain at running, I kind of like that.
I think we can go. I think we take a running back.
He's got seven receivers here and three running backs.
He's probably taking a running back, so I think we decide
between foreman and Hubbard here.
I like Foreman better for sure. I don't even think it's closed
due to help. That's going to run the ball,
like it's 1952. Yeah.
The Panthers ran a shit-ton last year too.
Well, he had a new coach and everything.
I mean I like them both but I don't know, I guess I'm just
pushing back on saying, it's not even close.
I just feel like Hubbard's a handcuff play informant isn't
who are the other wide receivers, how drones are
unfroze Slayton Downs Woods hard.
I mean we're just scratch offs at that point.
Yeah, I feel like it's definitely dpj right now, I
mean, yeah, I think is cpj, yeah, let's go with it. 80
pieces by a lot. I don't really like dpj, but I
would take him there. I mean hopefully if Watson's
goody make some big plays and I don't know if Elijah is going to
get them off the field. Well, then they're talking about
doing a lot of like, spread stuff like five wide stuff.
He would be a big part of that with this speed.
I think he's, you know, he's got the thing, I was like my, like,
he's got a specific skill set that the speed, I think, I mean,
last year they were, they were kind of keeping him underneath a
little bit too much. I feel like and now that
Elijah's there. I think he can just get back to
beam over vertical weapon might actually be good for him.
I think I could see it be okay. If Watson hits.
So we could eat, could go too tight.
Ends here with pits and then we could add a running back and a
receiver and do I don't think we need to get to six running backs
in this build. We don't leave again Montgomery.
Mitchell Foreman seems rock-solid to me.
It's more about what is what has a better chance of hitting our
Flex, the running behind and tied in three.
Probably. Yeah, I think Ferguson is a
priority. He went didn't, he know, he do
you guys like for yourself with a monster.
I mean, probably I was just thinking I didn't know if we had
a bring back on Minnesota, we already kind of got a double and
a bring back on Deck but I mean, yeah Ferguson's probably better.
I feel better about Ferguson's Lido on Schumacher than I do
about Musgrave Musgraves lead on Craft yeah Musgraves more up.
I gamble than but I think there's more upside So I guess I
will say my exception to a six running back would be Chandler
with the Kirk stuff that I guess I'm not a not opposed to that.
I mean jajuan Johnson looks great if he comes back.
Yeah. Chris Godwin mini well yeah I
knew you'd come around on God one.
All right. I'll come around on.
I mean if we had taste them I'm happy pound.
That's when I started really Breathing heavily when Pat was
throwing shade on. Chris, God went out on that run.
It on the ground. Matt asked, if you heard us say
that we're going to start a projection series Leone.
Yes, Matt. You did hear that.
Can't wait till the next week. I think they'll probably be on
the feed already. We're going to start recording
here in the next few days. Dude, that's crazy.
Because that's one of those. But there's a few things, you
know, and fantasy that make you feel like the new year starting,
like the NFL 10 of death, your guys's projection series is
another one of those Scott Fishbowl.
It's like I'm doing it, like, the news the month earlier this
year. It feels like people.
Demand it though, they need it. Earlier, probably two weeks
earlier. This seems like a good time to
mention to Gretchen are going to have a fun night.
Tomorrow night back-to-back randomizer and best ball after
dark over on my YouTube channel. How you feel about?
Some of those prompts that started rolling in today,
Gretch, I feel great. The chat was asking for drinks.
I had to go sober tonight, so I could save up for a doubleheader
tomorrow. It's Pete's birthday tomorrow to
right. Wait, no, it's not your birthday
is Brother tomorrow. Tomorrow, it is.
Yes. The modelo's will be flying with
grass. We're gonna have a fun night and
be very nice thought. Yeah, dude, I mean I don't tweet
a lot these days. So I my mentions like I saw a
few of the of the prompts one was to drink a beer out of the
Husky helmet. That was one of my favorite
websites. Got to be all over my fucking
it's gonna be everywhere right? I need a people you know how it
works. The chat says something you just
have to do whatever they say. Yeah that's how I roll.
We have to find a creative way to do that one.
Yeah, I think grouchy. I mean, you might end up having
to host basketball after dark because I'm doing some marks for
my birthday with Lauren and then where you get the Modell's
flowing during randomizer. We might just be blocked out by
the end of it books, do it? So we could do a three
quarterback build with pretty. Oh no I just got you just went
we didn't I Chandler here. I don't really see much else.
I wouldn't mind prioritizing Ferguson Ferguson has one.
He is one tight end so I'm fine doing that.
Yeah. Did you have any time?
It would be kind of weird if he took Ferguson.
I think it would be where it's fine after Henry.
There's a lot of guys. Yeah, Mario's he had Hawk to so
This morning they'll Pat Pat and I were sitting on the stack and
a KZ snipers from Jalen hurd's just purely to spite us you can
never put anything past these guys that's fair.
I forget you guys have the the stream experience badge that I
don't have. So we're kind of like this very
last, what's our team? We have three tight ends now or
we have two tight ends carpets and Ferguson.
Okay, so what kind of free role in this last?
Pick it, right? It's basically just best player
available that's player. Available probably break ties to
wide receiver. I would say, since we have,
yeah, that wouldn't sound stretch before, what is your
phone? Would you say this room?
Compared to normal rooms? We just go to the tight end tab.
I feel like normally, like, this is fairly wiped out compared to
what you'll normally have available at tight end.
Just a really good pick here Sicky.
Yeah. Those guys.
Gretchen you ended up doing any. I know you're not super far
along in your slow draft, but had you done some of your
guests, icky Henry pairing. I've been grabbing a couple of
them. I'm not sure if I have gotten
the triple the double yet. All three, I'd wait.
I'm so pad instead of the starring thing.
What I'm doing on these drafts is I'm renaming them fairly
frequently. You wait, your renaming the
draft as they're going like, that's, that's really thick.
That's a dirt dude. Yeah, I should do that.
I don't know what I can do it. That's awesome that I was going
to say that psychotic but that's exactly what I would do.
If I was only in slow drafts and couldn't enter more.
I just be constantly perfected by David could Legends.
Well, I'm gonna change it. It's like, you know, I don't
want to it happen, organically because I kept forgetting and
then I'm going to go, that's this team, it's like I got 30
teams going, you know? So Musgraves probably somewhat
on the table, right? Or no.
But I said that because yeah, the one the one draft them on
the clock. It is New England back stack
question mark and I've already gotten Mac and get sticky on
that one. I might grab Henry, dude grabs
that's actually genius using it as a way to quickly, jog, your
memory for if you work in a ton of slow drafts.
Yeah, I love that. That's smart.
So we just lost Musgrave. Is Marvin Jones to gross is a
bring back. Yes, I don't care only that's
really yummy Leone. Convince your mom, the only
championship of the Fantasy Football World Series a couple
years ago and we won because of it.
I don't think I have any Marvin Jones.
But so if you're out, wow, if Leone doesn't have any large as
we got to take them off, I mean, does it?
It's a rough scene for me? I mean I don't think it's like
Take the correlated want. It is a pretty weird bring back
though, given that he's like a placeholder for Jameson
Williams. Like, it's not like he's no
Helena, right language. I mean, do we have any
correlations that they could do K dot in as a double up on the
Tampa Bay doesn't coordinate any Detroit.
Yeah we got Montgomery. Montgomery have that bring back
yet? Man, anything jumping, you could
just double tap the Cleveland wide receivers, take Tillman
with dpj, I don't mind that play it.
Just try to hit a single receiver.
Yeah, I think that actually yeah, yeah.
That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense.
I think stuff like that. So underrated.
When it's such a late and you take and if you had like an
injury to a Mari or Elijah more couldn't tell Mindy, PJ both be
out there and three wide receiver sets or if they do a
lot of the 5 W stuff I was just talking about and it Seems like
an interesting past, heavy High PR OE team like, it would be
good for usable Spike weeks for random guys.
If Watson is good and they don't sign someone like one of those
guys has to be like pretty good. A decent amount of the weeks.
Unless see reporters. Don't think David Belle's making
the team so nothing David doubt. Why'd you have to bring that up?
Oh, he's the manager of the Reds right now.
This is how we should do a highlight reel of him managing
the Reds. That service, I like real.
My favorite highlight reel. By the last time, we're going to
be able to play that clip when he gets cut, when he gets cut,
you better believe we're playing it.
All right, Cedric, Tillman for the single.
Yeah, shout out Kevin Tompkins for that clip by the way yeah
incredible incredible morning. All right we got the team.
It's in the books. Surviving Avalanche rooms.
Wow. Can I name it like a lot
happened during this draft? What are you gonna name this
one? Pat, have you been dating your
best Ball Mania drafts? I am a name in them.
Know how rich some of us have to have a little prayer.
Would we finish at your house? I would it be funny though, if
you like, but I name every one of my puppy slow Draft House.
That would be fucking. That's like Siri if anyone out
there Dave doll, 150 of your puppy drops.
At, I know there's a few of you out there.
I would, I would sleep with one eye open next to you.
Let's see, should be done now, right?
Wow, no names. Wow, we're going to win so much
money. Wow.
And Gretsch a race. What the fuck?
You didn't run and I didn't run. It's named after them.
Yes. Feeling great.
I did a five mile bike ride earlier Hice.
Haven't feel great, but I got a short 20 minute bike ride.
It All right, Pete. You want to service the
re-election of Sir, sure. Um, so Leone and I went out for
a run and this one does go out to change Simpsons, Dad, I know.
He would love to have watch this stream but we are going to serve
as him here tonight, as one of the, many audio listeners who
listen to Ship chasing. So shout out to Shane.
Shout out to Shane's dad. We love you and for this team,
I'm sorry we tried to navigate. Negate a wide receiver,
Avalanche, bad connections, five k's, all of that, Dak Prescott
and Kirk Cousins at quarterback at running back.
Tony Pollard, Travis etn, major Allah value Hound there.
David Montgomery that pick happened when my connection cut
out. I don't know if I would have
signed off on that one. Elijah Mitchell at running back
along with de'aunte Foreman who Leone things is apparently the
best running back in the league and tie Chandler to round out
our Kirk Cousins. Bet here, just in Jefferson
Alpha, played pick at know. To Debo Samuel, the
controversial, Chris Godwin, who Pat is going to lay awake at
night? Wishing was Brandon, I uke but
we did then get a fellow Brandon a few pics later with Brandon
Cooks. Jaden read.
Because Romeo Dobbs was gone KJ Osborne because Addison was gone
Donovan people's Jones because literally every other wide
receiver was gone and Cedric Tillman because you try to hit a
single with the Browns wide receiver.
Three at wide receiver for at tight end.
Kyle fucking Alpha play pits. This cohort has had a lot of
success with Kyle pit. He's on their team before and of
course, the final pick Jake Ferguson, stacked up with that
Prescott. There we go, Pete.
I think he was talking while servicing is Dad now, we'll
ghost. He was looking for a little bit
more of a physical servicing. I know it, just feels so weird
to say, hey, for Shane's deceased dad, let me jerk off
your go stick, like it. There's just no way for that.
To make it even asset but there'll be honest, we don't
work for me. I'm just confused by the whole
situation. I have to I'm trying to I'm
trying to act in good faith here.
Leone oven that means doing that.
I'll do it. They're good.
We have been 20 bucks on the superjet.
You needed a jerk-off motion. That's all good.
Yeah, I like this Tyler says, please renamed to Paris.
Pat. Watches whores.
Run ohmygoodness Leone. I'm I think this is.
This is firmly a once-a-year thing.
Oh yeah, so tradition. I love.
This tradition, I bet you do where you sipping wine this
time. Know what about next year?
Are we going to do the Beer Mile?
That would be fun Rich you and I might need to do some kind of
drinking challenge next year. Yeah.
While please give us a last year
was just Leone Pete added. We met at one of us might have
to run with them next year. Yeah adding people to the Leone
what if there was some kind of element with even though it's
like your mileage or a 400-meter like where we pick?
You have to like run a certain amount between picks, it's like
you, it's so they'd like you're sprinting to get back to be able
to make sure you don't timeout kind of thing that could be
interesting. Oh yeah.
Yeah, yes. That's actually a good idea.
Did we could do like a relay race thing because then it's a
30-second clock. So you time it out so that you
have you should be Being every 30 seconds, a new person should
arrive. Have time to review and then run
again. Yeah, that would have to be a
200-meter if we're going to work off a 30-second clock, but that
would be a good clip. Your 30-second probably still
wouldn't make it 200 me, Are you seriously?
Be fucking dead. No, no, you'd have a lot of.
You have of the Sprint need of a minute, 20 seconds, there's four
of us Running. Oh, all four of us isolate
yourself or of us and then we get so ideally it's like spaced
out but then it eventually would Clump and someone just like Dew
Drop Inn. It's like fucking sprit.
You have to go. What if what, if, what if the
phone that you are drafting on, was the Baton and that you had
to like pass it to whoever was up ahead of you run.
You do it while you're running. Yeah.
This is even better. I love real a break and then we
get to do like ship chasing for will do like verse the ET, our
crew. You know you everyone.
Yes, yes. Yeah.
That's what I'm thinking. You can do it.
You could even do it as a three-man draft and do it as a
three. Yeah, I mean.
Yeah. All right, well Workshop.
Top this next year, the evolution of cardio Club.
Oh, all right. We land in this plane?
Yeah. All right.
What else do you guys got going on?
We got projections, come in from Gretchen Leone soon.
Gretchen I party in tomorrow. Randomizer best ball after dark.
If you are a YouTube member, you'll have access to those
crane. What do you got going over on in
your neck of the woods? I just did a big rankings.
Refresh this evening, in preparation of this stream.
I was drafting off the ranks, so you guys got a sense of those
and the Draft Kings ranks. Underdog, ranks Dynasty ranks
all over, legendary upside. I had a couple articles out last
week on late-round strategy and on quarterback tactics and
drafts right now, be a little bit of a little tight to see if
I'll get the article I'm working on done in time for this week
but definitely puppies. Yeah, too many puppies for it.
Are you little too many little too many puppies, puppies, a
pickleball this week but hey, it's Juna, New York, you know?
Leone else coming out from you guys.
Nope, I'm gonna be in New York in two weeks that nice.
I'm, I'm staying with Dank coming with the fam, but we
should meet up one night. I swear to God, if I seem out of
town, the first week of July pickleball, no more pickleball
photos with Pat out there, I canceled a DP chasing after
seeing that with, with Sam and Pat the last week of June.
So I think it's like, the, the Tuesday, through Thursday, like
the last week of June 26th to the 28th, or something, or 27th
and 29th, something like that. We shall hang.
There you go. Alright, you guys, as always ATP
chasing, you guys will be because doing a show Monday Pat.
We are doing a show Monday. Make sure you guys are tuning in
for that. Those shows have been awesome
hosted. By Sam Sherman, Davis on that
Gracchus swung by Pat on there. Really good stuff required
listening if you are drafting regularly on Underdog, highly,
highly recommend it. Appreciate you guys tuning in
tonight. For our shitshow of a draft.
Shout out to Mike Leone, the original night, run Pioneer for
Gretch. For Pat this is ship chasing.
Please don't cut David Bell. We need that clip to stay in the
hopper. Did you see all those fucking
idiots in the chat tonight? Oh shit, we're still alive.