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Good evening, ship chasers and 
what now has become an annual 

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event. 
We are doing our Dynasty 

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Superflex tight in premium 
rookie mock draft before the NFL

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draft takes place and to help us
do so, we're bringing back Ron 

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Stewart, bringing back Blair 
Andrews. 

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There's no JJ this year. 
But guess who is replacing JJ? 

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You guys the chat. 
Yes, that's right. 

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You guys are going to get the 
draft slots here in this mock 

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draft. 
We will put up some polls for 

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you guys so you can try to come 
to some kind of consensus for 

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these picks. 
It's going to be a fun time here

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on ship chasing. 
Let's get to it. 

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Pat Fryer, Helmo. 
This is why This is why I'm hot.

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Anita Handjob. 
Fix your sight. 

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Jamar. 
And also. 

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Play chase. 
You can't handle the heat. 

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It looks like we're. 
Finally, at this point, you're 

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right. 
All right. 

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Good evening, Good evening. 
Ron and Blair, welcome to ship 

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chasing both of you guys 
fighting against the elements. 

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I mean, Blair has, you know, a a
house that's sick, sick kids and

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Ron would rather be watching 
March Madness. 

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So you guys are both dealing 
with different things tonight. 

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How's it going? 
It's. 

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Going great, Hopefully can can 
keep from getting infected, but 

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that's almost a 0% chance of 
happening, so this will be the 

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last time you guys see me. 
If you. 

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If you go out how you did last 
year with a Jamir Gibbs 

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selection at 1/3, which at the 
time seemed very, very spicy, 

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you're you're in good shape 
here, Ron. 

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How are you doing? 
I'm doing good, kind of coming 

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in here with my tail between my 
legs. 

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The last time we did this, I 
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pick. 
I took Bryce Hung over CJ Stroud

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and I think I took Garnell 
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So we went over 3 Pretty. 
Awful. 

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Pretty terrible showing here and
I, you know, you you I'm a guest

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to you know bring some dynasty 
love here and man. 

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I took Tank Bigsby over a Chan 
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board 'cause he was still a 
chain at that point. 

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We'll just say how does Tank go?
There are there are some really 

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funny pairings for those who we 
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twelve person draft so there 
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So we each had two slots in the 
draft which meant we had four 

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total picks. 
And like some of the pairings 

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are hilarious. 
Like JJ obviously crushes like 

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Dijon and then Mr. relevant in 
this draft Jane Reed and then he

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has Jordan Addison. 
But paired with Hedden, Hooker 

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and I was like even existed. 
I had a pretty nice one here, 

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Anthony Richardson and Sam. 
That's nice, Florida. 

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I had a nice one. 
CJ Stroud and A Chan, Yeah. 

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That that's very nice. 
Blair, Jalen Hyatt and Marvin 

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Mims. 
Gretch on the turn. 

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Josh Downs and Zay Flowers Yeah,
yeah, my QJ pick. 

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What a bust. 
Pat the Will Levis and is is he 

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a band of what? 
That, That one was rough there. 

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Hey, well, I'm millionaire. 
Pinkcheck. 

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Levis has kind of worked out. 
I mean, you would rather have 

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Addison, you know, but I think 
you would rather have him than 

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Austin Charbonnay Hyatt. 
I love these notes. 

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The piss boys are dead. 
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that was been controlled. 
It's. 

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Clear that a lot of these teams 
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beyond. 
Yeah. 

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So before we get to the 
festivities in randomizing our 

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draft order, Pat, I know you 
have a a little announcement 

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you'd like to to share here 
before we get rolling. 

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I do, yeah. 
Britney is pregnant and we're 

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going to be having a baby girl 
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little sooner than I thought. 
She's actually getting induced 

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on April 9th, which is in about 
10 days. 

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So yeah, this is not an 
announcement of something in the

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future. 
Long, long way. 

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In about two weeks, I'll be a 
dead. 

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Exciting stuff, man. 
Grant, thanks guys. 

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Joining the you know Gretch 
blaze the trail with the ship 

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Chasing Dad Life. 
I followed behind last year, and

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now you will. 
We're all girl dad. 

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It's been girl dad. 
Yeah, not about it. 

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It's. 4/4 girls. 
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And Ron, you said you had a 
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right? 
Yeah, I'll be betting the over 

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in Bama, North Carolina tonight.
He's. 

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Literally a child like that. 
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announcing that he is going to 
be your surrogate father. 

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That's. 
That's what the. 

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The announcement is all right, 
we are. 

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Let's get to some randomization 
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Gretch reminded me that what we 
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sure no one oops gets really 
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end picks. 
Since we're all getting two 

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slots is we're going to 
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through 6 and those pairing. 
So that would be like one and 

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24, two and 23 etcetera. 
And then we will do seven 

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through 12. 
So, Blair, how many times should

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I should I randomize here? 
3. 

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OK, 10, go back two and three. 
Ben Influencer, 101, Pat 10. 

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Two, Pete. 3 Blair 1/5 in the 
chat 6 All right, let me get 

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these in here And also I have AI
Have a big announcement for 

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overzet.com which is the host 
for these mock drafts. 

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The devs have been hard at work 
on AUI refresh and we are 

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flipping the board on its head. 
In 2024 we are going portrait. 

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We are going portrait. 
We've been reviewing, doing some

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focus groups. 
People said the scroll off the 

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screen with the landscape was 
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The devs Got it done. 
Portrait mode tonight on 

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overset. 
Crowd goes fucking wild. 

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How about that for an 
announcement, Pat? 

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I'm fucking sucked about it. 
Yeah, you're Thank you. 

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And we also had some people in 
the chat congratulating Ron, and

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I really appreciate that. 
That's nice. 

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Yeah. 
Exactly. 

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So chat you guys this. 
The toughest thing is for you 

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guys. 
You all have to get on the same 

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page. 
I will help you out with some 

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polls. 
You guys need to start huddling 

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right now what you're doing with
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get do the 2nd randomization. 
Blair, do you want to tell 

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people kind of the full the 
rules we're we're operating with

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here as far as what scoring 
settings? 

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Oh yes, the rules. 
Of course. 

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Superflex tight end premium. 
You don't have to start any 

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running backs if you don't want.
I think I made that one up, but 

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otherwise your typical your 
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And I think that is the thing. 
There is no positional 

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requirements for this. 
We are just trying to draft the 

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best player on the board. 
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All right. 
We are going to spin now for 

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this second one. 
Fortunately, it means none of us

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are going to take running backs.
Which 44 tags? 

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Which is great exactly. 
Ron, how many times do you want 

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me to randomize this back half 
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Me give me 4. 
OK, 1234 Ron, you dirty dog. 

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How did I Ron the chat? 
Pete, Ben, Blair and Pat here. 

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The chat gets the near 
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year, the 106108. 
Yeah, it's like the the double 

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Pete. 
It's not bad, Chad. 

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It was a good spot. 
Yeah, Ben Blair and Pat and then

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we will run that back. 
Pat Blair, you're. 

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Going. 
Backwards. 

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How is the How is the chat going
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Pat's. 
Oh, thank you. 

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Thank you, thank you, Pat. 
Blair, Ben, Pete. 

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What did you say, Pat? 
Wait, why am I 13? 

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We did it as a snake. 
Last time, OK, I was saying how 

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is the chat going to decide on 
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They they will just shout in the
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I don't. 
So my hope is that they will be 

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in the ballpark of a couple 
names and then what names I'm 

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hearing I'll put as an official 
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can vote and the actual votes 
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OK, OK. 
The disaster would be as if 

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there's like 19 different 
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You know, like they need to come
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minutes chat is already super 
heated. 

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There's a bunch of different 
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Charles Cook coming at me saying
worry about that yourself, Pat. 

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I mean, the chat is hard. 
I'm just gonna help. 

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You guys out. 
What is table Talk We're 

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drafting against you, Pat? 
Yeah, My goodness. 

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My goodness. 
OK, Ben, you do have the 101. 

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The honors are to you to kick. 
Yeah, this is this is a lot 

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better than the free agent draft
recently when I had to make a 

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decision, although a little 
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in this one. 
But the 101 is nice to have. 

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It's simple. 
I will take Caleb Williams going

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into an an all time fantastic 
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He's got Keenan Allen. 
DJ Moore. 

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Yeah, Kolka Met who look pretty 
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There's a lot of talk that they 
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a Roma Doonsay at the end of the
the top ten with their second 

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top ten pick. 
Yeah, also pink phone and paints

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his fingernails. 
But I'm we're going to play 

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through it. 
OK, yeah, that is the note we're

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we're giving here. 
What about the fingernails, bro?

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Caleb Williams? 
Does anyone, Blair. 

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Ron, would any of you have gone 
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Caleb? 
Or is this the the obvious 

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chalk? 
This is the pick the correct 

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one. 
I think this is the correct 

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pick. 
I always like to make a case for

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the top wide receiver at one O 
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could make a case for for 
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It's harder, I think the. 
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I think trading down is probably
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I want to say it's like the 
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in play than people might think 
because of how strong the what 

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the two. 
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behind Caleb Williams are and I 
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So if you you're gonna want 
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down is definitely in play. 
Oh, you're just gonna pick the 

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1:02 to the 104 for everyone? 
I don't. 

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I'm just saying that's what I 
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That's. 
What I like, yeah, Caleb 

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Williams, it it does seem like 
he is going to be the consensus 

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101. 
It is interesting just because I

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don't know it. 
It seems like it's been a long 

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time since we've had two 
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at the top. 
Like, I I don't think anyone 

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would be crazy if you took, say,
Harrison and Neighbors both go 

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top five in the NFL Draft. 
Like I I wouldn't think anyone 

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was crazy for taking them 101 in
one of these. 

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I wouldn't even. 
I mean, I considered it like I 

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have Harrison ranked 102. 
I made little rankings for this 

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and I wrote him as 102. 
Like I I think he's I'm over 

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May. 
I mean I think you can consider 

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it but Caleb Williams, the the 
kicker for me is just that the 

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Bears are in such a good spot to
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And he seems like an absolute 
lock to go 101. 

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Kenan Allen is gonna be his best
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DJ Moore is gonna be his other 
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I mean it's it's really nice. 
It's a good. 

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Waldron is like a solid OC. 
Like, there's not like. 

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It's not like gets. 
He's still there. 

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Like there's no real red flags 
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It's all kind of it's all good. 
It's not something I pay 

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attention to, but do we know a 
lot about the kind of quality of

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the offensive line in Chicago? 
Is that a concern for any 

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rookies coming in there? 
It's been getting better, right?

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Like that's it was really bad 
when Fields came in, but the 

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idea is that they've been 
working on it for a couple of 

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years as far as I understand. 
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Yeah, I'm. 
Gonna. 

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Let's see PF FS Final rankings. 
We had them at 19, but that was 

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before free agency, so I don't 
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ESPN analytics got them at 5th 
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Was pretty. 
Good they. 

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Invested in Darnell Wright last 
year. 

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Could maybe take an offensive 
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kind of doubt it. 
But it seems about average. 

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Get the fuck out of here that 
that we want. 

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And every time you call clock I 
take 10 seconds off of your 

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pole. 
Do you guys buy 'cause I still 

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will see mock drafts where they 
have the Bears taking a wide 

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receiver in the top ten. 
I mean, like, I've seen like 

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Rome. 
Yeah, no, he gets mocked there a

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lot. 
Yeah, I think. 

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Bad for Rome and just incredible
for Caleb. 

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But I think that the, you know, 
it's hard to figure out the 

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trades, right? 
But one one really obvious spot 

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is that the Falcons move down a 
couple spots. 

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They've been linked to a lot of 
edge cornerbacks that you know 

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you can move down a couple spots
and get an edge or a cornerback 

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pretty easily. 
So if you know like all the 

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mocks of the Bears in Odoonse, I
wouldn't be surprised if someone

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comes up and and gets Odoonse 
ahead of the Bears, yeah. 

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All right, Pat, you're on the 
clock with the 102. 

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Hard to top announcing a baby, 
but what are you gonna have at 

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the podium for us this time? 
I'm gonna go with the the son of

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a former NFL great, Marvin 
Harrison. 

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Not overthinking this one. 
I think you could make a case 

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for I think you could make a 
legitimate case for neighbors. 

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But it's more of like you're 
kind of giving up the the safety

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of Harrison who's such a good 
prospect in his own right. 

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And I just, I think the better 
prospects. 

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But it's very close. 
And then I think there's just 

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like David's talking about like 
guys becomes Harrison the kill 

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meme. 
Harrison is a meme. 

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There's no like, market panic on
Harrison. 

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It's just everyone's going to be
in for forever. 

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Unless he's like somehow not 
good, which I don't think is 

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possible really. 
So he's he's, I don't know. 

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I just kind of a not overthink 
it pick. 

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Yeah. 
Really good opportunity to say 

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Frank Gore junior there. 
Yeah, it it is interesting just 

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how I mean by his intention, you
know, has been out of the 

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limelight, but they're like he 
does not get talked about. 

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I mean Malik Neighbors has been 
all the rage, rightfully So what

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he did at his pro day. 
But it's like Marvin Harris and 

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Junior, like there's there's no 
buzz on him because he's not 

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doing anything other. 
Than it worked. 

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Out last year. 
Yeah, I I did some some research

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on like target sprout run stuff 
for rookies the last couple days

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and wrote up some stuff for the 
top receivers. 

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I kind of expected Marvin 
Harrison's numbers to not be 

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great because Ohio State always 
has other good receivers. 

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And you know, I just kind of 
thought maybe he was more of 

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like a film bro. 
Like all that. 

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His numbers are fucking 
outstanding both of his last two

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seasons. 
His his freshman season he was 

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behind three future first round 
picks. 

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So you obviously he understand 
that he didn't do a lot 

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immediately stepped into numbers
in his second year that were, I 

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mean not much worse in terms of 
in terms of volume earning it 

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was a slightly better. 
It was like the same target spot

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run at a little bit of a higher 
a dot. 

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The Neighbors breakout year his 
third year and the big 

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difference is Neighbors like 
first two years are good, very 

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good but not in that realm. 
And then his third year was 

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amazing and Harrison did it both
seasons when he wasn't behind 

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three future first rounders he 
was elite very very like way up 

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here and then took it to another
level last year. 

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I mean at Neighbors was really 
efficient in that one year but 

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the two seasons versus the one 
season I kind of think it's 

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crazy that people Neighbors is a
good prospect but the fact that 

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people are like it's it's too 
much it's you you you it's a 

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little too extra to be like 
Neighbors as the wide receiver 

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won. 
I don't think you can make that 

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case. 
I think it's silly. 

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I don't think it's silly. 
Like Neighbors is such a high 

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ceiling prospect. 
You know, he's got, he's super 

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athletic. 
He's kind of seen as more like, 

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I know some NFL teams, well, 
some NFL teams have been 

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reported to have him wide 
receiver one. 

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So you know, I think what are 
you looking for? 

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Are you looking to take the 
biggest possible swing? 

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A Neighbors probably has a 
slightly, slightly higher 

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ceiling, 'cause he's more, I 
think he's more raw athleticism,

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Yards after catch kind of 
blazing, just the blazing 

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athleticism. 
I mean the fact that Harrison 

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immediately stepped into just 
massive target earning with 

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efficiency like consistency down
to down is how you play wide 

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receiver at the NFL. 
He's he looks like I I saw 

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somebody compare him to like 
Larry Fitzgerald type of a 

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prospect. 
Like he looks like a guy's going

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to step in and be a Pro Bowl 
player every year of his career 

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for like 15 years. 
Just earn a ton of volume. 

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And be through a pro if, yeah, I
agree with you. 

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So that's a really high ceiling,
you know? 

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Yeah. 
No, it's like you're not the. 

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What's the point? 
The ceiling's plenty high 

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enough. 
Just take. 

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Marvin Harris, yeah. 
I like what Matt Harmon said the

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other day too, where Harrison 
Junior had 47% over the last 

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two, two years, explosive plays 
to Neighbors 40% and it's almost

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kind of a psychological thing 
that he gets yak and missed 

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tackles, fours. 
But Marvin Harrison Junior 

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creates the same amount of big 
plays. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
No, he that's that's 

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interesting. 
The the other thing too, if 

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you're thinking about I know 
this is a dynasty draft, but if 

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you're thinking about like year 
like one to two year value like 

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it seems very very unlikely that
Marvin Harrison slips past both 

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the Cardinals and the Chargers, 
which are above average going. 

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Back. 
Spot. 

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Whereas it is a very high 
likelihood that you know, the 

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giants, you know, end up with 
neighbors, like that's probably 

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the smart money for his landing 
spot. 

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And those are two very different
outcomes as far as what it means

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for your early year production? 
For sure. 

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I think the big thing for me, if
you're going to make a case for 

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Neighbors over over Harrison is 
that Neighbors is almost a whole

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year younger than him, which is 
not insignificant, but but I 

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mean, I don't. 
I still have Harrison above 

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Neighbors, I think. 
It's weird like I I mean I I get

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it. 
I was I was being a little 

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dramatic about it but I do think
there's a little bit of like I 

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I've been pretty pro at Dunesay 
too and then digging these 

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numbers it's like a Dunesay's 
definitely three I like to think

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in in terms of tears and I don't
think there's a tear at. 

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I don't think there's really any
way you can do it other than say

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Harrison one neighbors 2A, 
Dunesay 3 and then there's a gap

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after a dunesay as well. 
Like it's it's just very ordinal

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at the top of the wide receiver 
rings to me this year. 

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I agree. 
I I think Neighbors is in 

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Harrison's tier in the sense 
that they're both extremely rare

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prospects. 
Like they check basically every 

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box and now we're arguing about 
you know kind of the more stuff 

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in the in the micro about who's 
gonna who's gonna be better in 

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the NFL, what's you know the 
style of the games and stuff. 

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And I agree that Harrison should
be the clear one. 

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But in a way that's sort of like
I don't think there's like a 

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tear break. 
It's just that Harrison's the 

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better bet, you know. 
But God, I mean Neighbors is a 

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rare prospect. 
Like I I don't think it's 

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actually like I'm like dude, I 
need, I think I need to raise 

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him in my dynasty ranks like he 
is. 

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He does strike me as a dude like
we in a year and a half or 

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whatever. 
Like we could be thinking about,

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you know, Jefferson Chase Slam. 
Neighbors, Harrison is like the 

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clear top five. 
Like he, I think he could be 

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very, very much a part of that 
group. 

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Well, that seems like a good 
spot. 

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Well, I I was gonna do this 
regardless. 

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I do agree with Gretch, I think.
I think Harrison is still just a

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slight notch above, but to me 
Neighbors is such a smash 

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prospect and I just do not have 
the same level of conviction 

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with Drake May and Jane Daniels.
I think there's a lot of fun 

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outcomes for them and I think I 
I am a little colored by best 

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ball brain where I'm fully sold 
on what they can do for me. 

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But I just don't feel like I 
have to take the risk of them on

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here at 13. 
And I think the opportunity cost

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could just be absolutely massive
if Malik Neighbors is that top 

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five dynasty asset that you're 
talking about. 

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Yeah, it's. 
I mean, it's tricky because in 

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Superflex QBs have so much 
value, but that's how I ranked 

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it too. 
In my in my ranks. 

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I was alluding to I I think 
these two receivers are just 

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freaking amazing. 
I think he said that really 

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well, 'cause they feel like 
lower risk bets. 

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Even though at QB, Pat, you 
always talk about this in 

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dynasty, like when these guys go
top five at QB they retain value

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even if they're Zack Wilson. 
Like, I remember after it was 

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rookie year, I traded Zack 
Wilson for two seconds, which is

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like not amazing. 
It was a loss of value, but I 

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still got two second round 
rookie picks. 

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It's still very good, right? 
Yeah, like I retained 2 seconds 

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after he had a horrible rookie 
year because there's people that

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still believe and they know he's
gonna start. 

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And I mean but the league 
neighbors. 

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Yeah, I really. 
Yeah. 

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I think neighbors should be 3 at
this point. 

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I mean, he's just looking so 
locked in such a high ceiling, 

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you know? 
Again, not to compare it to to 

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Harrison, but just like he's 
just a such a good prospect and 

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would be the clear wide receiver
one I think, if Harrison wasn't 

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in the class. 
So I like the pick. 

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All right, Blair, you're on the 
clock #4 here, do you? 

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I actually. 
Shocker for us this year again. 

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Well, I don't know. 
I think there is a case to be 

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made for a different player at 
#3, and it's because people 

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forget this is a tight end 
premium league. 

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It's called Brock Bowers. 
Wow. 

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Bowers, of course, put up 
numbers in his true freshman 

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season that would be impressive 
for a wide receiver prospect. 

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I mean his his production 
profile is is pretty incredible.

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So I'm excited about what he can
do. 

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I'm tempted in a lot of my kind 
of more, I don't know, 

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contrarian moods, to put him at 
number one overall, but that's a

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little crazy. 
I like it. 

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I wouldn't do it, but I like 
that. 

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Not, not saying it's going to 
turn out the same way, but it is

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a little bit like the Jamar 
Chase, Kyle Pitts here, we're in

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tight end premium. 
You can kind of be like, I mean,

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this is a really, really good 
tight end prospect too. 

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I brought this up with I think, 
JJ, where I was like can someone

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make this case? 
Because it's like he's such a 

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good tight end prospect and 
reminded me, Ben exactly of that

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of of Pitts chase like no one's 
making this case. 

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So I'm I'm, I'm glad to hear 
that you are Blair, 'cause 

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that's he's that good of a 
prospect that we should at least

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like. 
Now, I disagree with you, but 

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I'm I'm psyched. 
Also, don't you think there's a 

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bit of almost just like Brock 
Bowers is so good discourse 

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fatigue? 
Because like I remember hearing 

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about Brock Bowers at this time 
next year, they're like, oh 

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this, this tight end class is 
good. 

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Wait until the best tight end 
comes in the class next year. 

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Brock Bowers would be ahead of 
all all of these guys you love 

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in this 2023 rookie class. 
And now it's just like he's a 

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lock to be, what, top 15, 
probably, at worst, draft 

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capital? 
Like basically no question marks

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on his profile. 
I feel like people are just 

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bored talking about him. 
I think there's Pitts fatigue as

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well. 
I think people feel burned. 

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Even NFL teams like pushing his 
draft capital outside the top 

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ten. 
Yeah, he's a monster. 

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I like the idea that he's not 
like Pitts is obviously great, 

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but he kind of wins down field 
as a receiver like Bowers. 

450
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,080
Bower's had 19 carries, 193 
yards and five touchdowns 

451
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,520
rushing. 
Like in college, which? 

452
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,080
Is like he. 
He's a running back playing like

453
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,240
he's just more like H back. 
Like you can give him handoffs 

454
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,320
if you want to and screen so it 
feels like there's gonna be a 

455
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,280
lot like easier of a ramp up and
he doesn't, He doesn't need like

456
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,160
an elite quarterback to get him 
open down field. 

457
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,640
So he's exciting. 
I'll be honest, he's probably a 

458
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,000
favorite to be a Jet, so that's 
probably his biggest negative 

459
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:06,320
right now. 
I I did my my video today doing 

460
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,000
dream landing spots for the wide
receivers. 

461
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,520
I included Brock and I know it's
chalk Ron but I I do think The 

462
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,120
Jets is an awesome spot for him 
like to just flank Garrett 

463
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:19,040
Wilson could easily slide in as 
the number two target earner 

464
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,920
there. 
You know Rogers is going to find

465
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,200
him be a big red zone threat, 
big part of that offense. 

466
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,880
Oh, I I would be. 
I would be beyond Stoke. 

467
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,680
It's just like, at this point, 
like, dude, I've had my heart 

468
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,560
broken like so many times. 
It's just like something's going

469
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,400
to happen. 
Like our our offensive lines 

470
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,040
made of glass. 
Like, yes, I'm excited we got 

471
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,760
Tyron Smith, but Tyron Smith and
Morgan Moses are both 33. 

472
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,680
The right guard is coming off an
Achilles tear. 

473
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,560
Elijah, Vera Tucker. 
Like, it's a very, like Brock 

474
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,240
Bauer's 2024 projection with The
Jets is standing on a House of 

475
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,400
Cards. 
It's like kind of the way I'd 

476
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,200
put it, but it is exciting. 
It's exciting for sure. 

477
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:56,480
I'll, I'll, I'll say that. 
Well, we saw that House of Cards

478
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,560
last year. 
They're all free. 

479
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,360
Usually I've. 
Been playing more than 4 plays 

480
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,760
in man, 4 plays in just 
collapsed. 

481
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,000
I just had a flashback to doing 
our ship cast with you, Rod, and

482
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,920
you were just in a sad state of 
affairs. 

483
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,520
I was. 
Remembering that as well. 

484
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,720
That was an all time ship that 
was the best, best of the year. 

485
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,440
All right, Ron, you are on the 
clock at 5. 

486
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,720
The chat is starting to make 
their plans at six. 

487
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,520
Where you going here? 
I am sprinting to the podium to 

488
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,840
take Drake May. 
I absolutely love Drake May. 

489
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,520
College basketball's on right 
now. 

490
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,280
His brother Luke May UNC legend,
which like weirdly give me. 

491
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,800
Yeah, Luke May's brother and 
their dad played football at UNC

492
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,720
as well. 
It's like almost like a 

493
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,040
McCaffrey esque family where 
they're all athletes. 

494
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,880
The mom played at UNC too, I 
think so that this is going to 

495
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,880
sound weird, but that gives me 
hope that he's less Baker 

496
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,320
Mayfield and more Josh Allen if 
that makes sense. 

497
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,840
Where he's like an actual 
athlete and can move and he runs

498
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,560
the ball. 
He's made like I think he has 

499
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,560
the most big time throws over 
the last two years. 

500
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,600
He has like a 90 plus PFF grade 
in both years. 

501
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,800
He scrambles rocket arm. 
Like, I don't know. 

502
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,280
He has two years of starting 
experience. 

503
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,840
People love to kind of like 
overthink it. 

504
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,400
He he definitely misses some 
layups. 

505
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,160
Like, I'm not by any means a 
tape grinder. 

506
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,480
But you know the guys who grind 
tape in their basement will say,

507
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,800
well he misses some layups. 
I don't know. 

508
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,440
He's super young. 
It feels like with the right 

509
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,080
coaching that that could get 
shored up. 

510
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,640
Like he just has an amazing arm.
He's he's very exciting. 

511
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,320
Drake, man. 
He didn't have a great 

512
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,560
supporting cast either this 
year. 

513
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,720
The thing about him too is like,
people are like, I misses, he 

514
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,680
misses some layups and he takes 
a lot of half court shots. 

515
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,760
And yeah, he sinks a bunch, but 
you know, I probably should take

516
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,680
those. 
Like, are you sinking half court

517
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,960
shots? 
It seems good. 

518
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,480
Yeah. 
And Pat, I know, I know you've 

519
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,480
been very bullish on him for 
best ball purposes. 

520
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,120
It does that bullishness fully 
carry over to Dynasty. 

521
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,640
Yeah, I I would have. 
I mean, to be honest, I 

522
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,880
considered. 
I think he's in the conversation

523
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,360
at 2:00 and then I think he's 
got that high of a ceiling as a 

524
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,280
as a quarterback in Superflex. 
But you, I mean the safety of 

525
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,840
Harrison and the ceiling you're 
getting, it's almost like the 

526
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,480
Neighbors conversation was like,
yeah, but you're getting plenty 

527
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,640
ceiling and you're it's coming 
with such a, you know just a 

528
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,120
bulletproof prospect profile 
grab Harrison. 

529
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:21,000
But I I think he's in the 
conversation at three. 

530
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,560
I would have taken him at four. 
I really like me in in all 

531
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,400
formats. 
I'd say too with like it is an 

532
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,720
interesting debate between the 
ceilings and floors. 

533
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,320
But like if you do a start up 
right now, nine of the top 12 

534
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,360
are going to be quarterbacks. 
Like to me, I like Harrison 

535
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,240
Junior and Neighbors. 
I I don't know. 

536
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,520
I think that they'd almost have 
to have like a Jefferson Chase 

537
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,160
type rookie year, which is in 
the range of outcomes. 

538
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,840
But like if they ever wanted to 
crack like like the top six of 

539
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,840
startups is so difficult to get 
there. 

540
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,200
I I think like maybe Jefferson 
after year one was there. 

541
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,120
Like we just saw Stroud, like 
Stroud was like a top six 

542
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,520
quarterback. 
He was great, but he didn't have

543
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,880
to like be the QB one in fantasy
to get there. 

544
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,120
And then we also see Bryce 
Young, he's like a sixth round 

545
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,040
pick in startups and he was God 
awful last year. 

546
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,600
So it does feel like there is a 
a ceiling in four there with May

547
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,000
2. 
I think it just speaks to kind 

548
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,040
of the the depth of the class 
and we talked about it earlier. 

549
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,240
But if you can trade from, like 
if you can trade from the three 

550
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,600
to the five and somehow net a 
first, you can have to like 

551
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,160
throw in a second like it's a. 
It's a very stacked class at the

552
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,040
top, but these are all like top 
50 assets. 

553
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600
All of these picks are really 
fun picks to make. 

554
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,360
Like one or I mean. 
At two, like, I mean they're and

555
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,600
they all that goes down to five,
'cause you have five really good

556
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,880
prospects. 
I love the chat is cannibalized.

557
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,480
They are going insane right now.
So to to set the table right now

558
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,720
with what's going on. 
Obviously the the picks have 

559
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,520
gone Caleb Williams. 
Marvin Harrison Junior. 

560
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,760
Malik neighbors. 
Brock Bowers. 

561
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,800
Drake may the chat has, you know
correctly identified 2 main 

562
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,920
candidates here and Jane Daniels
the best available quarterback 

563
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,440
in Roma dunes A you know that 
tear break that Gretsch just 

564
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,360
talked about. 
And it's turned into Lord of the

565
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,040
Flies. 
There's mud being slung there, 

566
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,080
there are dead bodies laying 
around. 

567
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,400
And I've been watching. 
I haven't pulled up here on the 

568
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,800
screen you can see the real time
votes coming in. 

569
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,880
There's 52 votes. 
Come make your vote heard. 

570
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,160
I mean, look, there's no 
integrity in this poll. 

571
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,240
If you got burners and you're 
Jane Daniel, Stan, fucking fire 

572
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,120
him up. 
Rock the boat here because it's 

573
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,920
5050. 
Guys like this is a dead heat 

574
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,000
right now with this poll. 
Daniels is a paper Tiesman, 

575
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,360
Heisman. 
This is one of the comments 

576
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,720
here. 
Andrew G says Chaos. 

577
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,160
I do want to clarify something 
because people were wondering 

578
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,880
about these picks, so this. 
So to let you guys know for pick

579
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:41,040
6, this is the other pick that 
you're making is 17. 

580
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,600
That's the team, but you don't 
really have to worry about then 

581
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Then the pick eight and where's 
the other one? 

582
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,400
Did I miss the chat? 
In Did I miss the Chat? 

583
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,800
Six is 19. 
I got. 

584
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,000
A little confused about the. 
You have them at 19, I think. 

585
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,160
Oh. 
Oh, yeah, yeah. 

586
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,480
Sorry. 
I didn't have all caps. 

587
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,440
That's why I That's why I threw 
me. 

588
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,520
Yes, but they're two separate 
teams here. 

589
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,040
Ron, would you have taken a oh 
sorry, you have patent in 

590
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,760
between those two chats in the 
second round. 

591
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,320
But isn't it's Ron between the 
two, Pat between the two chats? 

592
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,880
I think I understand now I'm 
confused. 

593
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,200
Which one, Pat or then what? 
What needs to be flipped? 

594
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,880
The second round between the two
chat picks I see Pat's name, but

595
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,160
in the first round between the 
two chat picks we have Ron. 

596
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Oh yeah, you're right. 
Because Pat got moved up. 

597
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,560
OK. 
I think that, yeah, Pat, Pat had

598
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,520
three second round picks. 
He traded in a raw second round.

599
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:38,120
He did want to trade back. 
This is still like a dead heat 

600
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,680
51% Rome 77. 
Votes Oh, it's flipped. 

601
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,200
It was Daniel's. 
Oh. 

602
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,040
Wow, it's 5149. 
This is. 

603
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,760
This is wild. 
I wonder how Granch, if you 

604
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,160
wouldn't have just kind of 
shared how much he loved Rome on

605
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,160
these airwaves over the past 
couple of months. 

606
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,160
Maybe this wouldn't be as close?
I don't think it's I I mean, I'm

607
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,520
gonna make the case whenever 
Rome gets picked that he's 

608
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,720
getting dogged a little bit by 
how special we just said 

609
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,080
Harrison and neighbors are 
because he's an incredible 

610
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,360
prospect in his own right. 
I saw the the Harmon thing the 

611
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,840
other day where like his whole 
route tree's all green and like 

612
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,320
every. 
I mean he's a little bit of a 

613
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,880
later breakout. 
Yes he he played four years in 

614
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,360
college but like he played in a 
spread offense PFF they just 

615
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,960
wrote a thing today somebody 
over at PFF I I don't remember 

616
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,760
the name about how yards per out
run when you have you know more 

617
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,280
receivers on the field is tends 
to be lower. 

618
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,840
The expected yards per out run 
should be lower. 

619
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,920
You have more competition 
essentially for targets. 

620
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,320
It's fairly intuitive the the 
Huskies ran a very spread 

621
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,160
offense and he was still the 
clear alpha in a spread offense 

622
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,200
with two other good prospects 
and two tight ends that went to 

623
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,520
the combine like they're they 
have a lot of competition there 

624
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,640
and he was always the legit 
alpha at UW. 

625
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,840
I I mean, I think he's a, he'll 
be good player. 

626
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880
His family has burners on 
Twitter and they come at me 

627
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,480
every time I say he's wide 
receiver 3. 

628
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Really, dude? 
It is. 

629
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,960
It is insanity. 
Like if you just utter the words

630
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,600
like neighbors, neighbors is 
really good and like you forget 

631
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,680
to even mention odoonze. 
It's like 2 or one like there 

632
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,800
there's like Ron, Ron. 
Ron that that's me. 

633
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:20,400
Those are my. 
All right, man, this is 84 

634
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,360
votes. 
It's at 51 percent, 49%. 

635
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:23,960
What? 
When? 

636
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,760
What should we? 
I like am I gonna hit? 

637
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,320
Is this going to go to court? 
Is there going to? 

638
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Be a right. 
Now I'm hitting Chad's like I'm 

639
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,120
terrified though now. 
Oh shit. 

640
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,040
It just flipped them with God, 
it's even. 

641
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,120
Let's here. 
I want to ask Ron about the 

642
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,000
neighbors. 
May Would you have taken May 

643
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,760
over neighbors. 
It's very close. 

644
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,840
I think I would without knowing 
the neighbors landing spot at 

645
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,680
this point, just 'cause I like 
May that much super young, very 

646
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,520
nice prospect, but like you're 
flipping a coin like I would 

647
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080
have both of them as like second
round startup picks, you know? 

648
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,360
Oh man, 51%. 
Here, Rome pulls ahead. 

649
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,960
Steph is trying to. 
The charge of. 

650
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,880
Daniels in the chat. 
I actually have Diego's right to

651
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:18,320
add a Rome people. 
Are a SEC religious system cut 

652
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,400
reports that there are deceased 
people voting for? 

653
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,000
There you go. 
Are you in there voting for a 

654
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,800
doonsay? 
The burners didn't apply to you.

655
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,120
Man. 
Oh my God, it's. 

656
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,920
Daniels. 
Oh my goodness. 

657
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,320
This is all right. 98 votes. 
I'm locking it at 200 votes. 

658
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,280
It's at 98. 
Two more votes. 

659
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,639
Two more votes at the side 100. 
One or something. 

660
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,520
You're right, number. 
One thank you. 

661
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,920
Thank you. 
Yeah, 101. 

662
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,840
Hunter 199. 
Daniels pulls ahead 2. 

663
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,920
More votes? 
Who's going to create a burner? 

664
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,880
If it's a doonsay, it's 5050. 
Yeah, we're going to go to 101 

665
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,760
If it's a doonsay, If it's a 
Jaden vote. 

666
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640
We're locked. 
Final vote, Get it in. 

667
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,000
This is insane. 
I didn't. 

668
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,680
Oh no. 
It's tied. 

669
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,720
No, I think it was it. 
Has the full time, I think it 

670
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,040
was Dan, you had the tied 50. 
No one at the end, it looked 

671
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:17,520
like, didn't it? 
I am. 

672
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,120
You have to flip a coin. 
Put it on the generator. 

673
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,280
Oh man. 
I'm letting Steph Miller come to

674
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,280
the podium on behalf of the chat
and break the tie. 

675
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,760
Steph, Steph, I can't. 
I can't. 

676
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,960
I can't flip a coin. 
We're letting Vice President 

677
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,120
Steph, she is going to certify 
this vote. 

678
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,080
That's fair, all right. 
Good. 

679
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,280
What'd she say? 
Daniels? 

680
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,040
She said. 
Daniels. 

681
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,040
The pick is Daniels. 
God, that this whole idea in my 

682
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,640
head, I was like, oh. 
This would be Smooch, yeah. 

683
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,880
Hop the Steel. 
We were definitely, definitely 

684
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,160
trying to give room for Jay 
Daniels there, yeah. 

685
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,120
Fantastic. 100 votes dead tie. 
That's crazy. 

686
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,440
Insane, OK? 
Well, we know Ron hates a 

687
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,000
doonsay. 
He's pissed off his whole family

688
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,640
and all those things. 
So you guys might still get a 

689
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,240
doonsay at 1:08. 
Yes. 

690
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,000
Seriously Ron, where where are 
you at? 

691
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,520
You are on the clock at 17 now. 
We're not letting chat explain 

692
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,560
their pick here. 
It can't be trusted. 

693
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,000
We'll be here all night if I 
allow that. 

694
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,080
But yeah, I'll take Rome of 
Doonsay. 

695
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,360
And this is just part. 
This is just part of my growth 

696
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,480
in the dynasty landscape. 
You guys know younger. 

697
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,640
I think, I think it like two 
years ago I would have been 

698
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,000
like, well, Adunde wasn't an 
early declare, so I don't know 

699
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,760
guys, I don't know if he's a top
seven, you know guy who won a 

700
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,720
rookie drafts but the the film 
community is so high on him. 

701
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:44,320
I know I think Dale and Drama 
has like as a top five player on

702
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,080
his big board, he's going to go 
top ten. 

703
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,000
And you have like legit reasons 
for him not producing earlier 

704
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,160
where it's been stacked wide 
receiver room. 

705
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,480
He dealt with some injuries 
early on, but his final year is 

706
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,040
amazing. 
Matt Harmon loves him and that's

707
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,200
kind of good enough for me. 
He also killed the combine. 

708
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,960
He can play inside and out. 
He's he's very exciting. 

709
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,800
Super good at all depths, yeah, 
yeah. 

710
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,440
Not no separation issues. 
One of the thing that's 

711
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,040
something that pops up with a 
lot of the the guys in this 

712
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,880
class and he's kind of seen I 
think it's sort of like a 

713
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,000
contested catch guy to some 
extent but like the athleticism 

714
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,280
and the the route running is 
probably undersold a little bit 

715
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,000
maybe his yards per outrun as an
underclassmen were also pretty 

716
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,160
good, 2.17 yards per outrun 
through three underclassmen 

717
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,200
seasons. 
Not like off the charts or 

718
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,640
anything but you know that's 
pretty good. 

719
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,080
And then he had a 28% career 
market share of yards which is a

720
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,440
pretty good mark for a four year
player. 

721
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,120
So yeah he was he also had 
pretty good yards after catch on

722
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,720
deeper throws. 
So overall just he I still do 

723
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:52,880
care that he's a four year 
player except as I'm like 

724
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,400
comparing him to neighbors in 
Harrison but like he checks 

725
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,200
basically every box you're 
looking for so and. 

726
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,120
One of the things we talked 
about this before, but as we 

727
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,040
talked about the other two 
Washington receivers, both of 

728
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,000
their offensive tackles, Michael
Pennix are all potential day one

729
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,200
or Day 2 picks. 
Then I also mentioned how their 

730
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,200
two tight ends were at the if I 
did the combine, the running 

731
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,640
back, all these dudes returned 
to make a run at a national 

732
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,200
championship. 
So he would have been like the 

733
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,840
one guy that was like, yeah, no,
actually I'm going pro. 

734
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,240
I, I, I, I make a little bit of 
a mental adjustment for that. 

735
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,640
At least he did need that senior
year. 

736
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,160
As you sometimes talk about pad,
it was his best year, but he did

737
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,160
elevate. 
He's not going top 10 without 

738
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,800
that year. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

739
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,440
But I'll also say his second 
season. 

740
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,440
His first season we only played 
four games and we had a a bad 

741
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,440
head coach. 
His second season we also had a 

742
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,160
bad head coach. 
The first two years we we fired 

743
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,760
him. 
His second season his targets 

744
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,960
per out run were actually a 
career high. 

745
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,040
His yards per target were 
horrible. 

746
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,440
Our offense was really bad. 
His yards per out run doesn't 

747
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,040
pop as a sophomore, but he 
earned volume at a big clip 

748
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,640
right away. 
His first like heavy route 

749
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,040
season his his freshman year 
only ran 40 routes. 

750
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,040
We only played four games. 
Like I said, 250 routes a second

751
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,400
year and was earning volume 
right away was, you know, 

752
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,360
showing some of those traits 
early. 

753
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,280
The other thing I'll say about 
him, you guys are talking about 

754
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,120
all the stuff down field and 
that is his profile. 

755
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,720
Like he runs good route 
separates and everything. 

756
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,000
I've talked about this a little 
bit though. 

757
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,280
But like, we would throw some 
wide receiver screens 

758
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,480
occasionally. 
We'd throw into a lot of 

759
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,520
different guys and they threw 
him to roam. 

760
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,240
Dude, he would always get like 8
yards. 

761
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,120
Like he was the kind of guy that
would fall forward, whatever. 

762
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,880
Like it wasn't a 2 yard gain. 
Like he's a physical runner with

763
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,640
a ball on his hands. 
Like another play. 

764
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,120
I mentioned to you guys biggest 
game of the year late in the 

765
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,320
year or we had a lot of close 
games but we're playing our 

766
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,360
rival Washington state. 
We went forward on 4th and two 

767
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,880
in our own like 30 yard line and
and like a tie game late. 

768
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,080
We're about to get upset knocked
out of the you know national 

769
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,360
championship conversation. 
They called an end around to 

770
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Roma Dunesay. 
Like that's the way all those 

771
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,040
little things about like rushing
production and kick return 

772
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,240
production that we talked about 
where like the team knows when 

773
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,000
their players are stars and they
want to get the ball in their 

774
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,680
hands. 
When our season was on the line,

775
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,920
they go to Roma Dunesay like 
they. 

776
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,200
That's the way that UW was all 
last year. 

777
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,360
I did want the the chat reminded
me is I was joking about moving 

778
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,600
on from the Jane Daniels pick. 
But we should talk about that a 

779
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,560
little bit too, because he is 
such an interesting player, kind

780
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,520
of that classic archetype where 
when he does hit, his Super Flex

781
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:27,080
value is just insane, but there 
is a lot of risk to him actually

782
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,000
hitting. 
Yeah, Jane Daniels scares me a 

783
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,520
lot. 
I I think best ball is like how 

784
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,640
I'm going to try to get a lot of
my Jaden Daniels exposure, 

785
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,400
because, I mean, if he's going 
to be good, he's going to be 

786
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,960
good. 
Like right away, right? 

787
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,640
It's all about rushing. 
He might, like, he might score 

788
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,600
the most points his entire 
career as a rookie because he 

789
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:54,760
might just run all the time. 
So I think that the problem 

790
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,240
obviously is the floor you get. 
I I have real concerns about him

791
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,000
as a passer. 
He's an awesome deep passer last

792
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,800
year, but he's throwing him 
Malik Neighbors and Brian 

793
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,560
Thomas. 
He was not very good at all 

794
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,240
heading into the season. 
He's the kind of guy like you 

795
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:09,760
follow like the journey of these
dudes. 

796
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,760
Like he was kind of seen as like
an intriguing kind of like 

797
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,880
developmental guy. 
And then he jumps in. 

798
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,320
This has a Heisman winning 
season and then all of a sudden 

799
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,160
he's like you know gonna go top 
three in the draft. 

800
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,920
So that doesn't mean he he can't
pay off on that. 

801
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,880
But I do think it creates some 
floor questions True. 

802
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,080
Like kind of one year wonder as 
far as like really high pedigree

803
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,520
goes. 
So this is where I would take 

804
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,000
him though. 
It's just like if he if he's a 

805
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,720
starter, you're probably gonna 
be able to get out. 

806
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Maybe it'll get maybe it's a 
little trickier as like the 

807
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,960
market keeps getting burned by 
some of these quarterbacks. 

808
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,680
Maybe you won't have quite as 
many trade partners as you might

809
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,560
have had two years ago. 
But I think, I think you'll 

810
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,600
you'll probably be able to get 
out for a decent amount and he's

811
00:41:53,600 --> 00:42:01,560
got such a high ceiling. 
Yeah, the Ron and he Ron Blair 

812
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,320
and he and he takes on on 
Jayden. 

813
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,160
He's tough because he's just I I
think that he's comfortably. 

814
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,720
I mean like I don't know like 
the Monk drives and stuff don't 

815
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,480
really think so as well but I 
think he's comfortably behind 

816
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,800
May as a in real life prospect. 
But the aspect of like his 

817
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,920
rushing upside like he could be 
like, you know like his ceiling 

818
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,360
is like Lamar Jackson. 
You know RG3 before the ACL 

819
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,960
tear. 
But he could also like just 

820
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,600
absolutely suck. 
Like he could just be just like 

821
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,560
a worst version of Fields. 
Almost like I I I think Marcus 

822
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,000
Mariota is honestly a decent 
comp. 

823
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,160
Like he could put up some like 
same thing with Fields where he 

824
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,800
put up like a top 12 season and 
then you know there's not a lot 

825
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,760
of like job security. 
But it's tough. 

826
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,760
I I've sort of wrestled it with 
my wrestled with it myself where

827
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,560
we've seen guys like Burrow, 
where he just comes out and has 

828
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,040
this like monstrous, monstrous 
final year and like nothing much

829
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,880
before that. 
So weighing like these massive 

830
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,400
peaks where I think Jayden 
Daniels, like ESPNSQBR, is like 

831
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,240
a pretty decent measure of how 
good a player was in a season. 

832
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:01,000
He has like the second highest 
all time ahead of Kyler ahead of

833
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,760
the Burrow Heisman season. 
But then we also have three 

834
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,720
years of like what the hell 
happened between I think he was 

835
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:09,800
a decent freshman at Arizona 
State and then just like it was 

836
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,240
pretty awful after that. 
He's also like very thin and he 

837
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,000
takes like these crazy hits when
he's running. 

838
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,520
So it it's a it's very tough to 
deal with because like he's one 

839
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,520
of these guys where when he hits
he's going to hit in a massive 

840
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,160
way and you don't want to miss 
out on that. 

841
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,320
And like any aspect, but it 
doesn't feel great now. 

842
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,000
Yeah, I agree. 
I mean, when you, you kind of 

843
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,520
can think about how he has Lamar
Jackson upside. 

844
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,160
But on the other hand, Lamar 
Jackson was good for many years 

845
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,400
in college, was younger. 
Coming out, you know there are a

846
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,440
lot more red flags. 
A lot more productive as a 

847
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,400
rusher too, yeah. 
For sure, Lamar Jackson is a 

848
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,760
really unique runner. 
Like, he's he's not just fast, 

849
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,120
like he's agile like he could. 
Like, we joke about how they 

850
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,640
wanted him to play receiver, but
like, he could be a legitimate 

851
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,760
running back in the NFL if he 
wasn't a quarterback. 

852
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200
Like, he's really good at, like 
making guys miss. 

853
00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:00,760
It's different than any other QB
in. 

854
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,720
Mind, there's there's no 
highlight reel of Lamar Jackson 

855
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:07,400
getting lit up, right? 
And Justin Fields, too, who has 

856
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,200
these long, you know, awesome 
runs. 

857
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,240
And even Michael Vick, who had 
awesome, you know, highlight 

858
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:14,400
runs, Those guys took hits, too.
Like, they, they don't have the,

859
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,720
like, agility that Lamar Jackson
has. 

860
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:18,960
Like to make dudes miss. 
It's in like a phone booth. 

861
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,120
It's crazy, That's. 
Crazy. 

862
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,440
All right, you you guys aren't 
gonna believe this, but the the 

863
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,400
chat is in a heated argument 
once. 

864
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,160
Again. 
The chat's defense. 

865
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,200
There's a pretty clear tear 
break here. 

866
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,880
Yeah, so we got a vote going 
right now it's Brian Thomas at 

867
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,880
wide receiver and then 
quarterback JJ McCarthy. 

868
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,440
I will just say I see right now 
we have 166 people watching and 

869
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,240
only 55 votes. 
Let's can we get can we get over

870
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:51,440
100 votes here for a decent 
sample here although Brian 

871
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,680
Thomas at 54%. 
Oh, who else is in this? 

872
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,400
It's 5239. 
Do you have 1/3 option in this 

873
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,960
poll? 
I had, I had a a poll before 

874
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,000
this that included Xavier Worthy
and then I ended it and started 

875
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,760
a new one that didn't. 
So I don't know what's going on 

876
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,600
with that. 
Isn't that 200? 

877
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,200
I was wondering if there was a 
third option but. 

878
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,000
Well, there there was before. 
But that poll ended. 

879
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,200
Xavier Worthy only had 7%. 
So, oh, that's. 

880
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,080
Yeah. 
You copy paste it, that's the 

881
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,240
written part. 
The the the percentages are over

882
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:30,560
on the right. 5644. 
Holy shit, that was trippy. 

883
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:36,320
I guess like this we are stuck 
in an infinite. 

884
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:43,360
Loop. 
The yes, so 54% Brian Thomas, 

885
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,880
45% JJ McCarthy. 
We're gonna need a strong push 

886
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,640
here from the McCarthy heads, 
which I was getting in in the 

887
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,760
chat here, Jonathan says. 
Take the 21 year old top five 

888
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,880
QB, quite probably going to 
throw to JJ, Addison and Hawk 

889
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,160
with elite arm talent and 
athleticism. 

890
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,640
On the other hand, you'll get 
lots of game manager stuff about

891
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,520
JJ. 
What are your guys's takes on 

892
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,880
McCarthy? 
I think I'd probably grab him 

893
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,920
here. 
He's the McCarthy like the 

894
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,040
downside is that he had I I 
looked at like he was fully 

895
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,040
managed. 
He like fully managed in College

896
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,200
in a way that makes you pretty 
concerned about like oh is he 

897
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,960
going to actually be a fantasy 
relevant quarterback in the NFL 

898
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,880
when he wasn't given any volume 
at all in college? 

899
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,840
Like I looked at percentage of 
games with 45 plus drop backs 

900
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,160
may hit that mark in 42% of his 
games. 

901
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,880
Kale Williams and Jaden Daniels 
were at 17%. 

902
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,320
McCarthy never hit that mark. 35
plus May was at 83%. 

903
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:54,040
Williams 67%, Daniels 42%, 
McCarthy 7 percent, 25 plus May 

904
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,240
every single game. 
Caleb 92 Jayden Daniels 92 

905
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,520
McCarthy, McCarthy 53%. 
This dude was not throwing the 

906
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,080
ball. 
That doesn't seem great. 

907
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,160
On the other hand, if he goes to
the Vikings, he throws really 

908
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,720
well to the middle of the field.
He's mobile enough to make some 

909
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,120
occasional plays. 
Can he basically be like Kevin 

910
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:17,200
O'connell's Brock Purdy throw 
into, you know, JJ Jordan, 

911
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,680
Addison, Hawkinson, I think he 
probably can so and I think he's

912
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,040
gonna get the shot to do that if
he if he goes there for sure. 

913
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,560
So I probably. 
The gaps in those numbers you 

914
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,200
just listed for the amount of 
drop backs was crazy. 

915
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,880
It's crazy. 
Yeah, it it's, it's full 

916
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,760
projection. 
I forget who's oh, was it? 

917
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:40,080
Oh, it was Ted Winn I think was 
with On Davis's Pod compared him

918
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,800
to Trey Lance because of like 
the the pure projection of the 

919
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,040
NFL group. 
It makes a lot of sense. 

920
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,600
Yeah, now that makes sense. 
I mean, you know, it's hard 

921
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,360
enough to evaluate QB's just 
based on kind of their 

922
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,520
statistical profiles. 
And when you have someone with 

923
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,720
such a small college sample, 
it's even worse. 

924
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,080
You kind of. 
I mean, yeah. 

925
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,040
McCarthy has the fact that he's 
the youngest quarterback in this

926
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,800
class. 
He's getting some buzz from 

927
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,760
scouts, which makes me think 
that even though kind of from an

928
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,560
analytic perspective, he doesn't
look that good, I should 

929
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,680
probably be paying more 
attention to him than I am. 

930
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,120
So it's tricky. 
Of course I have a head. 

931
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,560
Of Dave, you're worthy here. 
So there you go. 

932
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,640
That's that's who I am too. 
Hilarious. 

933
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,520
I want to come in off the top 
rope on Brian Thomas while we're

934
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,520
talking crap about. 
JJ Yeah, let's let's do Brian 

935
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,680
Thomas because it looks like he 
is going to win this pole for 

936
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,760
the chat. 
He probably isn't good. 

937
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,200
No, no, I'm just kidding. 
No, he he had incredible 

938
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,280
efficiency last year, 13.5 yards
per target, 17 touchdowns, a 

939
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,400
bunch of long touchdowns. 
So his like per route numbers 

940
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,040
incredible. 
Except for he never actually 

941
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,840
really earned a lot of volume in
college. 

942
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,080
Targets per out run even last 
year weren't even over 20%, 

943
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,480
which is incredibly low for like
a first round wide receiver type

944
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,440
prospect. 
And call it like I was talking 

945
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,400
about Marvin Harrison earlier, 
his two best seasons are up 

946
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,840
around 30%. 
Neighbors got up to 30%. 

947
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,360
Neighbors though as like a true 
freshman was in the 20s already.

948
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,520
He was at 21% and he's at 24, 
jumped to 29.7 last year. 

949
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,600
They had Keyshon Bute or 
whatever you say his name up 

950
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,560
until last year, but he was 
getting worse every year. 

951
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,400
He had like the really good 
freshman year and then he went 

952
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,920
downhill, his sophomore in 
junior years and Neighbors was 

953
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,920
filling some of that space. 
Brian Thomas wasn't and and he 

954
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,680
wasn't efficient either his 
first two years. 

955
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,840
So his yards, Pratt run his 
first two years are just like 

956
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,640
not good. 
And then last year he has the 

957
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,800
explosive season. 
He has a ton of like monster 

958
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,400
yards per team attempt, all that
stuff, but it's all yardage, 

959
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,360
efficiency. 
It's really all long touchdowns.

960
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,720
It's like a few plays he didn't 
show enough consistency, earning

961
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:55,440
targets per out for me when 
you're not even at 20%. 

962
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,680
I mean obviously like scoring. 
Like, it's what Pat was joking 

963
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,640
about earlier with the Drake May
like 50 yard or half court 

964
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,840
shots. 
Like scoring 17 touchdowns is 

965
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,920
really good. 
Like a lot of long TV's is 

966
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,720
really good. 
I'm not saying that's bad is the

967
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:11,720
potential to be a high 
efficiency like #2, but this 

968
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,680
guy's not gonna be an alpha #1 
target earner at the NFL level. 

969
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,560
Like, I'm very confident about 
that when I look at his targets.

970
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,800
Pride running college. 
I know he's super athletic, but 

971
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,040
if he couldn't translate that to
draw more volume, I mean even 

972
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,760
alongside Neighbors, I'm. 
I have real concerns about his 

973
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,520
like it's like a Josh Palmer 
profile. 

974
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,120
You're hoping for a lot of 
efficiency. 

975
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:35,440
It's very athletic. 
There was a lot of touchdowns. 

976
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,720
There was a lot, a lot more 
touchdowns. 

977
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,440
He's but he's more efficient 
than Palmer. 

978
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,680
His His profile weirdly reminds 
me of Jalen Waddles from a 

979
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,800
statistical point of view, and 
I've kind of brought him up. 

980
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,640
I brought him up to Eric Froton,
who kind of looked at me weird, 

981
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,800
'cause, like, they they're not 
like Brian Thomas is much 

982
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,560
bigger. 
They're not like it's not like a

983
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,320
comp, but like statistically and
kind of in a similar thing of 

984
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,080
like what he was playing 
alongside these other really 

985
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,720
good prospects. 
He has like some weirdness in 

986
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:06,600
his profile. 
Not not as productive as we 

987
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,680
would like, but he's really 
fast. 

988
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,040
Came out early, gonna get not as
good as draft capitalist 

989
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,880
Waddell, but he will be a first 
round pick and probably in the 

990
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,800
top 20. 
But Waddle was way better all 

991
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,320
three years in basically 
everything. 

992
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,120
Target target earning. 
His worst season was way better 

993
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,640
than this, two percentage points
better than Brian Thomas's best 

994
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,600
season. 
Yards per outrun his worst 

995
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,400
season significantly better than
Brian Thomas's last season. 

996
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,280
His best season's Waddles are 
through the roof like he was 

997
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,080
incredibly. 
I understand your point. 

998
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,440
You're it's a bet on efficiency 
in draft capital. 

999
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,120
But his efficiency. 
Waddles was electric 14 plus 

1000
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,040
yards per target all three 
years. 

1001
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,760
Brian Thomas was inefficient 2 
years and then one year that 

1002
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,320
wasn't even as good as Waddle's 
worst yards per target year. 

1003
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,200
That's good push back, 'cause I 
think Waddle Waddle was the 

1004
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,120
better prospect, but but it's 
like a similar kind of like, 

1005
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,840
yeah. 
It's, I get what you're saying 

1006
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,920
for sure, but it's like a 
totally different level of bet 

1007
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,960
on that profile, right, in terms
of the stats? 

1008
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,760
I think so, yeah. 
I think. 

1009
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,080
I think Waddle was a much better
bet. 

1010
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,160
He feels kind of like Quinn 
Johnson, not not like production

1011
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,640
wise, but just that like this 
could go kind of. 

1012
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,720
Oh, Josh Palmer. 
Josh Palmer. 

1013
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:19,800
Was, was, was too harsh, but 
you're going with Josh. 

1014
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,760
I don't. 
Know Johnson's a better prospect

1015
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,240
than Josh Palmer. 
No, of course. 

1016
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,920
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
They're both get drafted first 

1017
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,840
round. 
I think Josh. 

1018
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,480
Josh Palmer's like I feel like 
he was shocked that he even went

1019
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,680
like Day 2 or whatever he went. 
But yeah Brian Thomas junior I 

1020
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,160
the only thing that I can kind 
of latch on to him is that I do 

1021
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,720
like that. 
You know he's young. 

1022
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:40,640
He's coming out. 
He's athletic. 

1023
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,160
He'll be a first round pick. 
I've heard. 

1024
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,680
I've heard like top 15 buzz and 
it wouldn't shock me at all he 

1025
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,840
wins downfield. 
But I thought like the 

1026
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,320
interesting part that he's not 
you're like Mark Davis Bryant 

1027
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,880
like you know like 16 yard a 
dot. 

1028
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,680
He had a 12.2 yard a dot in his 
career and like 22% missed 

1029
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,720
tackles force perception. 
So it seems like he's not. 

1030
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,080
I think he could develop into 
almost kind like kind of like 

1031
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,480
what T Higgins is next to Jamar 
Chase. 

1032
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,040
Like that would be like I think 
a decent ceiling comp where he 

1033
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,320
could be that downfield guy with
a little bit more wiggle. 

1034
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,200
But yeah, there's definitely, 
like, there's definitely a very 

1035
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,360
low floor and the target, you 
know, earning ability is 

1036
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,440
definitely a concern. 
I agree with that take that he 

1037
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,800
could be like that, like a 
Higgins. 

1038
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,920
I like that call. 
Like actually very high 

1039
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,960
efficiency play. 
If you assume he goes in the 

1040
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,840
first round and put that in the 
box score, scout Higgins comes 

1041
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,680
in as his top comp. 
Interestingly, there you go. 

1042
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,720
Obviously we don't, you know, a 
little bit different play style 

1043
00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:38,520
in terms of Thomas. 
Well, Higgins, I mean, but 

1044
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,560
Thomas, one of the red flags 
that comes up in my stuff for 

1045
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,680
him is that he had a lot of 
contested deep targets and so he

1046
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,960
has the speed. 
So I'm like, man, it doesn't, it

1047
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,800
seems like he should be able to 
get open deep, but when you have

1048
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,600
a lot of contested deep targets,
it's been generally, especially 

1049
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,840
if you don't have an ultra high 
contested catch rate, which he 

1050
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,320
didn't. 
It's it's been a big red flag 

1051
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,480
for guys like Quinton Johnston, 
they're, you know, you're JJ 

1052
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,880
Orthega Whitesides of the world.
Like it's not a great cohort. 

1053
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,280
It's pretty. 
It's like, yeah, a lot of fun 

1054
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,360
there is. 
That Johnson had, what, 6 

1055
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,880
touchdowns in his final season 
or something like that? 

1056
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,040
Brian Thompson, 17, but that 
that's that point that he like 

1057
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,040
had a lot of contesting. 
Catch That scares me because the

1058
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,400
reason I talk about Guitar 
Sprout runs so much and I and I 

1059
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,600
look at it so much is I I think 
I know we all know this, but I 

1060
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,920
think wide receiver is such a a 
position about consistency that 

1061
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,000
we talk about highlights and we 
talk about athleticism. 

1062
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,520
And the reason those things 
don't always show up in the 

1063
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,600
production is it's down to down.
Do you win your route every 

1064
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,880
time? 
This is like what Matt Harman's 

1065
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,720
looking at with reception 
perception and that stuff. 

1066
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,920
Can you consistently do the 
technique and the and the things

1067
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,040
that are required of you And it 
seems like Thomas just like has 

1068
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,080
17 long touchdowns and that's 
that's his whole profile in one 

1069
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,680
season and he and he stacked it 
all together. 

1070
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,640
When he's playing with the 
Heisman quarterback who is 

1071
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,600
extending plays and he's this 
athletic player down field that 

1072
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,520
is. 
Then on the other end of these 

1073
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,360
bombs Jane Daniels throws a 
great deep ball. 

1074
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,360
Everyone says like I didn't 
watch a ton of LLC tape. 

1075
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,640
I'm gonna, I, I I'm just putting
this all together in my head. 

1076
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,480
But it seems a little convenient
to me that like, Oh yeah, this 

1077
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,040
really mobile good deep ball 
thrower and otherwise he's he's 

1078
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,400
dealing with a bunch of 
contested catches. 

1079
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,440
You're saying like so these are 
deep. 

1080
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,640
Targets where? 
So this is deep, contested, 

1081
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,840
Sorry, deep contested targets. 
Now this is actually nuts given 

1082
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,080
the way this conversation has 
gone. 

1083
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:37,840
Brian Thomas had 46% of his deep
targets contested right behind 

1084
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,800
him. 
Quentin Johnston at 45% and Josh

1085
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,240
Palmer is right behind that 40. 
5%, that's. 

1086
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,600
Crazy. 
We got his range. 

1087
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,960
Now Josh Palmer only caught 24% 
of those. 

1088
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,840
Johnston and Thomas were at 38%.
I brought this up with Connor 

1089
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,640
Rogers and he he actually felt 
like some of that's on Jaden 

1090
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,960
Daniels underthrowing him. 
That's what I've heard as well 

1091
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,000
that I wanted to say. 
I don't watch film, but I have 

1092
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,440
heard that Daniel's on the deep 
ball screwed Thomas a bunch 

1093
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,640
where like a lot of them he 
would be wide open. 

1094
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,160
He comes back like 5 yards to 
get it and it's a contested 

1095
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,160
target. 
Right. 

1096
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,800
And that and that's like this 
whole exercise is designed to 

1097
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,400
like find guys who can't 
separate deep. 

1098
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,760
And if he's separating deep so 
well that he's able to come 

1099
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,040
back, then it's that's noise, 
you know. 

1100
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,680
So I'm not as nervous about that
as I as I have generally been 

1101
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,400
like Keon Coleman is a 47%, so 
just above Thomas, I'm more 

1102
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,280
nervous about him than Thomas in
that in that way because 

1103
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,760
everyone says Keon Coleman can't
separate so. 

1104
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,880
And he doesn't have the speed to
make you think. 

1105
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,600
That, and he doesn't have the 
speed right. 

1106
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,080
All right. 
Pete, yeah, so the chat did kind

1107
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:53,440
of settle 54% on Brian Thomas to
JJ McCarthy, 45% I would say 

1108
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,240
pretty equally heated as some of
their previous decisions, but 

1109
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:00,120
they do lock up. 
Brian Thomas, I am not going to 

1110
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,080
take their sloppy seconds in JJ 
McCarthy though. 

1111
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,480
McCarthy. 
He just doesn't do it for me. 

1112
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:13,080
I I feel like when McCarthy 
hits, that's typical production.

1113
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,840
You can arbitrage even in 
Superflex like I feel like you 

1114
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,760
can get the pocket passers 
especially like you can go out 

1115
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,240
and and probably not have to 
give up that much to get a guy 

1116
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,080
like Aaron Rodgers right now and
get like that kind of production

1117
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,320
or a guy like Baker Mayfield. 
Like, I don't know. 

1118
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,560
I feel like that's kind of where
McCarthy is going to land. 

1119
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,400
If he hits and I understand the 
draft capital is going to be 

1120
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,760
there. 
Minnesota, obviously a nice 

1121
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,000
spot, but Xavier Worthy, guys, 
this is this is the guy that I 

1122
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,800
have to take here. 
I think if we hit on some like 

1123
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,720
Devon HN, Unicorn Esque, you 
know, black box mystery in this 

1124
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,480
draft, it's going to be Xavier 
worthy. 

1125
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,120
I feel very, very confident he 
is going to go in the first 

1126
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,360
round of the draft. 
I am shocked whenever I see a 

1127
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,120
mock draft that does not have 
him in the first round. 

1128
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,760
I think that is insane. 
I will bet any amount of money 

1129
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,960
that he's going to go in the 
first round and I think it's 

1130
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,680
going to be to a fun team just 
based on those teams who pick in

1131
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,720
the back 10 picks and the fact 
that he is not just a speed 

1132
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,160
merchant. 
The fact that he had this 

1133
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,440
incredible rookie season at 
Texas gives me so much faith 

1134
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,760
that you're hanging your hat on 
more than just an athlete. 

1135
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,760
And I get very, very excited 
about what that could mean for 

1136
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,960
our dynasty teams. 
This is the dude that when I did

1137
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,400
the Target Sprout Run thing 
today, I got the most pumped 

1138
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:32,880
about Pete. 
You've been talking about him 

1139
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,600
that way all all offseason in 
these shows that we've been 

1140
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,760
doing. 
You mentioned his really good 

1141
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,880
rookie freshman season and it 
was really, really strong. 

1142
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,360
The fascinating thing with his 
targetsprout run stuff is that 

1143
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,680
he was really inefficient his 
sophomore year and and I and 

1144
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,320
Sean rode in the road of his 
rookie guy that that Blair did a

1145
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,040
ton of great work on as well 
that that was Quinn Ewer's first

1146
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,400
season and he was inconsistent. 
He was in a deep threat role, 

1147
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,520
but his targetsprout run were 
massive. 

1148
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,320
Even had a 17.6 A dot. 
He was at 28.5% targetsprout 

1149
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,480
run. 
That's a .8. 

1150
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,760
I do this weighted targets per 
out run that brings in air 

1151
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,560
yards. 
It's a .89 weighted targets per 

1152
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,320
out run. 
That number not a lot of context

1153
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,400
other than it matches Marvin 
Harrison's best season. 

1154
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,720
It's the only other guy that's 
even in the realm of Marvin 

1155
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,720
Harrison's two seasons to have a
season with that type of volume.

1156
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Malik Neighbors is the next kind
of one in that range he's at. 

1157
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:30,400
He had his best season was .80, 
almost a full .1 below where 

1158
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,200
Worthy's year was. 
But Worthy's efficiency was 

1159
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,600
horrible. 
So that's actually his worst 

1160
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,120
yards per out run, even though 
he had all this massive volume 

1161
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,640
that year. 
Last year, his volume went down 

1162
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,120
a little bit and he was more 
efficient. 

1163
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,600
They moved him into a shorter 
role. 

1164
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,560
When they brought in Baby 
Mitchell, they put him in the 

1165
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,160
deep threat role. 
Kind of feel like that's a 

1166
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,840
positive note on the doonsay 
stuff. 

1167
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,240
Well, I was talking about 
earlier where like the team 

1168
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,320
wanted to get the ball in his 
hands. 

1169
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,120
Last year it wasn't working. 
We had it. 

1170
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,520
He was earning all this deep 
volume. 

1171
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,600
We couldn't get the ball on his 
hands. 

1172
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,040
Let's move him down shorter. 
He's still playing with Quinn 

1173
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,000
Ewers. 
Let's get him the ball in in his

1174
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,360
hands, closer to the line of 
scrimmage. 

1175
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,760
But to your point Pete, I mean 
this is not just a fast dude. 

1176
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,920
He has a ton of target earning. 
Like no guy who ran these super 

1177
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,680
fast 40s had this type of 
profile before. 

1178
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,680
Like this has never happened. 
Yeah, and I was listening to 

1179
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,880
Travis May talk too about how a 
lot of his production with kind 

1180
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,840
of the drops and stuff, he was 
playing with a club on his hand 

1181
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,080
last year at. 
Time did I hear? 

1182
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,080
Him say Yeah. 
What? 

1183
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,800
What's your? 
Take player that a few times 

1184
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,720
that that I keep. 
Getting that No, I don't. 

1185
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,000
I don't have a different take. 
I think that's exactly right. 

1186
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,640
I mean, his speed obviously is 
is awesome to see, but he was an

1187
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,360
interesting prospect even like 
he was one of the top prospects 

1188
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,120
in this wide receiver class even
before you knew he was that 

1189
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,040
fast. 
So I think you know it. 

1190
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,040
The fact that his combine is 
probably moving him up into the 

1191
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:52,600
first round does make a 
difference and makes him maybe 

1192
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:53,840
even a little bit more 
intriguing. 

1193
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,800
But I don't think it necessarily
changes the way you're viewing 

1194
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,040
him based on his production. 
You know, obviously a much 

1195
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:05,840
different player but his kind of
production profile reminds you 

1196
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,760
of what Juju Smith Schuster did 
in college where he had this 

1197
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,800
massive I think it was his 
sophomore year breakout and then

1198
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,040
kind of tailed off a little bit 
later but still still was good 

1199
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,760
in the NFL. 
So yeah, I'm. 

1200
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:24,520
I'm super excited to see Worthy.
I would even have him probably 

1201
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,920
above a doonese. 
Wow. 

1202
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:32,120
OK, there's the Spice I. 
I liked it. 

1203
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,640
I I'm, I don't know. 
I I definitely want to have some

1204
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,520
worthy and he's pretty 
attainable in best ball right 

1205
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,240
now. 
I'm drafting him a fair amount 

1206
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,200
but I don't I was not viewing 
that story. 

1207
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,240
You told Ben nearly as 
positively. 

1208
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,440
To me it's like he was the guy 
they they try to use him as the 

1209
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,720
deep threat. 
The way the difference between 

1210
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,080
the weighted targets per outrun 
and yards per outrun is is yards

1211
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,120
per target. 
And that was not that was not 

1212
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,200
good. 
You know he had a 1.91 yards per

1213
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:03,440
outrun, not great. 
And then they moved him out of 

1214
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,680
the role in favor of a guy who 
hadn't been there previously in 

1215
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,560
AD. 
Mitchell, who is very athletic 

1216
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,120
in play to go first round 
himself, but also some serious 

1217
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:21,320
red flags including real 
inefficiency and so it's like. 

1218
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,600
You know if you lost. 
The deep threat role to this guy

1219
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,520
who it's hard for me to Is that 
a is that a red flag or is that 

1220
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,720
a first round pick who's just 
better at those things and 

1221
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,920
you're kind of doing things that
you're good at and he's doing 

1222
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,280
things he's good at. 
It's not a problem. 

1223
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,040
But it's like I'm not sure if 
Ady Mitchell's good and if Ady 

1224
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,040
Mitchell isn't good, that's bad 
for Xavier Worthy but Ady 

1225
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,320
Mitchell could be really good. 
And then maybe they're probably 

1226
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,360
pretty correlated in their 
outcomes in that way because 

1227
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,280
Worthy it didn't work when they 
used him as a deep threat and 

1228
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,920
then they they brought in 
someone else to kind of play 

1229
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,880
that role. 
And then Mitchell had 32% of the

1230
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,200
offense and. 
And that's the year in Worthy's 

1231
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,680
career where you're like, OK, 
Worthy wasn't as productive in 

1232
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,680
his final season because Eddie 
Mitchell was the number one. 

1233
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,400
So it's like it's not it's sort 
of like how translatable is his 

1234
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,120
skill set. 
You know, can he be like a 

1235
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,640
traditional NFL wide receiver 
would be my concern with with 

1236
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,080
Xavier Worthy because last year 
was a little bit more kind of 

1237
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,920
manufactured than it had been. 
I think he. 

1238
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,640
Used the Waddle comp for where 
he's kind of a little bit weird 

1239
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,000
and I'd also say, I mean like 
his first year he was downfield 

1240
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,440
like 13.4 yard, A .12 
touchdowns, 980 yards. 

1241
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,040
I I get the idea with AD 
Mitchell, I mean he he, I think 

1242
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,560
that he was a part of those 
Georgia runs. 

1243
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,480
I don't think that I think that 
he was like highly thought of in

1244
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,440
the the transfer portal. 
But he's had like a 15 yard, A 

1245
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,960
dot his entire career. 
So it could have just been that,

1246
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,400
you know, they I think that they
had maybe I'm trying to think of

1247
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,920
like who was on those Texas 
teams these past few years. 

1248
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,480
But it could have been an idea 
of just like this is a more 

1249
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,240
natural fit for our roles here. 
But yeah, there is definitely 

1250
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,200
like it is. 
It's a fair question of like why

1251
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,920
is the first year like probably 
the best year? 

1252
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,120
But the the thing about Mitchell
coming and taking his job, 

1253
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,480
that's interesting. 
I mean Mitchell does end up 

1254
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,240
having a pretty solid share of 
the offense. 

1255
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,320
Are you talking about like the 
specific like hit the the 

1256
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,240
receiving yards there when you 
said that 38% of the offense? 

1257
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,720
Mitchell Mitchell had 3032% 
Dominator rating his final 

1258
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,920
season and Worthy dropped from 
He went 39 percent, 33 percent, 

1259
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:32,400
23% in his three seasons. 
Did were they miss a bunch of 

1260
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,400
wait or did Mitchell miss a 
bunch of times? 

1261
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,040
Mitchell ran more routes and had
way more, way fewer yards. 

1262
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,480
Had a much worse yards per hour 
did. 

1263
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,640
He still way more touchdowns? 
Yeah, he probably was way more 

1264
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,440
touchdowns. 
Cause so the point I was gonna. 

1265
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,040
Red flag is that he's like, 
yeah, he had 11 touchdowns. 

1266
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,600
So the the Mitchell red flag is 
that he kind of just turns it on

1267
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,920
and off, which is the real guy. 
Not good. 

1268
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,320
So the he he came in, he took 
the deep threat roll. 

1269
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,160
He only earned a target on 17.5%
of passes in Texas last year. 

1270
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,840
Worthy fell off from the year 
prior but was still 25% like 8 

1271
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,000
percentage points higher. 
Way more dominant like target 

1272
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,880
dominant per route and and just 
raw targets 119 to 86. 

1273
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,120
And even though Mitchell ran a 
few more routes and so even 

1274
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,000
though there was a big A dot gap
that weighted targets prop run I

1275
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,320
mentioned .64 to .52 like Worthy
was still meaningfully higher 

1276
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,840
out of way lower A dot 'cause he
earned so many more targets per 

1277
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,720
out. 
That's why I I see it a little 

1278
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,760
bit like I do in a favorable way
for where they were, was like 

1279
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,400
we're moving you to where we can
get you the ball as opposed to 

1280
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,560
Mitchell's taking your job 
because Mitchell didn't get 

1281
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,400
targets really in that role he. 
Did in the red zone. 

1282
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,480
But yeah, you're, yeah. 
Yeah, he scored a lot of 

1283
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,520
touchdowns. 
I don't have that on my 

1284
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:42,640
spreadsheet. 
That's a good no. 

1285
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,040
Do you think it's a red flag 
that Mitchell got those 

1286
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,160
touchdowns, and specifically 
that Worthy didn't? 

1287
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,000
That he only had five touchdowns
his final season? 

1288
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,480
I think even on 120 targets 
seems like it, yeah. 

1289
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,320
Could be an issue for sure. 
That's probably, that's probably

1290
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,480
the biggest, I don't think it's 
great. 

1291
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,720
That's probably the biggest 
thing I would worry about. 

1292
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,360
I mean, we use dominated rating 
typically because it it brings 

1293
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,760
in touchdowns. 
I think the touchdowns have 

1294
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,760
signal. 
I don't love that. 

1295
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,640
Mitchell's dominated rating, as 
you point out, is basically all 

1296
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,040
touchdown driven. 
Mitchell's a really tricky 

1297
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,960
prospect because he's yeah. 
I don't like being. 

1298
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,840
Athletic. 
He could be a first round pick. 

1299
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,520
He had a he had a breakout 
season. 

1300
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,160
He's an early declare and I also
don't like him. 

1301
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,040
The per out run stuff is bad all
three years. 

1302
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,320
I mean, he's never out of yards 
per out run, even of 1.75 in 

1303
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,160
college, which these guys are 
all putting up like 3.5 seasons 

1304
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,480
and he's not even half of that. 
That's He would have a red flag 

1305
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,560
in yards per hour run as a tight
end. 

1306
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,160
Good. 
It's concerned. 

1307
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,600
Before we shit on my pick 
anymore, let's move on. 

1308
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,560
No, you're that's not your. 
Pick that was 80, yeah. 

1309
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,160
Oh 80 Mitchell 80. 
Sorry, Yeah, no, we all like. 

1310
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,640
Worthy Worthy's fine in yards 
per hour run. 

1311
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,640
All right. 
Ben, you are on the clock with 

1312
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,360
110. 
Yeah, I'm gonna I I I do have 

1313
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,480
worthy right behind the doonsay 
at 8, ahead of Thomas and ahead 

1314
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,440
of McCarthy. 
So I liked your pick. 

1315
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,120
Unfortunately, it meant that I 
can't take him. 

1316
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,880
So I'm just gonna take McCarthy,
who I right now. 

1317
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Yeah, I don't have anything 
exciting to say. 

1318
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,280
I'm saying so much about these 
receivers, 'cause it's the only 

1319
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,800
position I've done any research 
on. 

1320
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,800
Anyone want to tag team in and 
talk about JJ? 

1321
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:26,040
McCarthy I I already gave you my
stats on on JJ McCarthy. 

1322
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,000
Anyone else got anything? 
He's a leader of men. 

1323
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,240
There you go, man. 
That's winner. 

1324
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,000
Yeah, I feel like you play for 
Jim Harbaugh. 

1325
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,880
Yeah, you definitely have that. 
I think like Purdy's are 

1326
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,840
stealing, if I'm being honest. 
Like I I think it could be one 

1327
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,400
of the Mick Shanahan tree like 
puppets that just, you know, is 

1328
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,680
good. 
Does that do we think it's 

1329
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:50,360
interesting? 
Right? 

1330
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,960
Because it still feels like 
there's a decent range of 

1331
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:57,280
outcomes on like where he goes, 
although maybe that band is 

1332
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,640
tightening now, but is he a 
quote UN quote safe prospect? 

1333
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,400
Does he have a really high 
likelihood of giving us the 

1334
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,520
Brock Bauer or Brock Purdy Esque
production? 

1335
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,920
I don't think he's safe. 
Right. 

1336
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,840
Yeah, so. 
To me, if you're saying he's not

1337
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:19,040
safe and when he does hit he 
gives us like average 

1338
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,560
quarterback play, that's hard to
get excited about. 

1339
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,240
Oh, it's extremely difficult. 
Yeah. 

1340
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,760
It's just so hard to know like 
what his real ceiling is because

1341
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,359
of how small the sample is. 
I think you can. 

1342
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,040
I mean it's hard to put a lot of
specificity to it, but you know,

1343
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:42,120
I'm sure he does have some 
upside that doesn't show up in 

1344
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,760
the in the numbers. 
So yeah, I'm. 

1345
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:50,479
I'm not sure, and this is going 
to seem crazy, but I'm not 100% 

1346
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,920
sure that he's a better 
quarterback today than Boenix. 

1347
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,680
Like I love that take Pat. 
I'm. 

1348
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,200
Not 100% sure. 
I mean, I can actually agree 

1349
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,600
with that, but it it's in part 
because Boenix is like five 

1350
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,640
years older than him, right. 
Right, Exactly, exactly. 

1351
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,279
But like he might just be Boenix
again, you know, but he's 

1352
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:12,479
younger. 
So you're like well maybe he's 

1353
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:18,960
more but he's it's a similar 
they're somewhat similar and 

1354
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,479
you're betting that he's the 
what you haven't seen is you 

1355
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,600
know is going to lead to to 
upside but he's got more upside 

1356
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,600
than what he's been able to show
so far which makes sense as a 

1357
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,520
guy who was a lot bigger than we
thought And there was I had 

1358
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,960
concern he's going to come in at
like 199 the combine he was like

1359
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,040
well above that and he was like 
219 or something. 

1360
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,800
He had a good three cone. 
So he can move at that size. 

1361
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:47,520
He's, you know, fairly mobile 
and he's got a big arm. 

1362
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,760
He's got tools. 
But like, as we talk about 

1363
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,560
today, like what does he do 
today? 

1364
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,440
He he's kind of like Bonex. 
Yep. 

1365
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:01,680
All right, Blair. 
With draft capital. 

1366
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,360
With draft capital, he's gonna 
get more starts. 

1367
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:05,880
He's gonna, yeah, he's a better 
bet for starts. 

1368
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,880
This feels like kind of choose 
your own adventure territory 

1369
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,920
here at at 1:11. 
Yeah, that's right. 

1370
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,520
It's, you know, as I don't have 
a lot of confidence in McCarthy,

1371
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,320
but I do think there's like a 
huge teardrop after him. 

1372
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,480
I think you could break the seal
on running back here, but I am 

1373
01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:29,320
going to go maybe a little bit 
off the board and go Troy 

1374
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,840
Franklin. 
OK, that. 

1375
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,720
Was my pick, too. 
That was my. 

1376
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,200
I mean, I almost took them over 
McCarthy, frankly, because I. 

1377
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,960
Didn't want to take them. 
I guess that's a little off the 

1378
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,240
board just what by projected you
know draft capital maybe a 

1379
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,440
couple other guys more likely to
go ahead of him? 

1380
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,400
Yeah, he's probably a second 
rounder, right? 

1381
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:52,760
So I think if he had had a 
better combine, we'd be more 

1382
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,960
excited about him. 
He came in pretty light and not 

1383
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,960
maybe as fast as everyone was 
hoping, But I mean in terms of 

1384
01:10:59,960 --> 01:11:03,520
his profile, he checks a lot of 
boxes early, declare he's got 

1385
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:09,480
the high market shares. 
I don't want to say he's a 

1386
01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:12,560
Justin Jefferson, Esque 
prospect, but he does. 

1387
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,920
He does remind you of that 
season when you know Jefferson 

1388
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,960
didn't do anything great, but he
was like good at everything as a

1389
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,360
prospect. 
Oh, we remember. 

1390
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,360
And. 
Checks all the boxes is Blair. 

1391
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:33,000
Favorite That guy popped up. 
So yeah, I don't, I mean 

1392
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,920
Franklin, I don't think Franklin
is Jefferson. 

1393
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,000
But in terms of a guy who could 
kind of be a checks all the 

1394
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:43,280
boxes sleeper, I like him. 
Nice three-year early declare 

1395
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,320
yards per outrun jumped like a 
full yard each of the two 

1396
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,960
seasons. 
Like his freshman year wasn't 

1397
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,680
great and jumps like a full yard
to a sophomore year. 

1398
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,840
He's a lot more efficient. 
Jumps another full yard. 

1399
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,120
It's 3.32 last year. 
We're just talking about how 

1400
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,360
there's some prospects that get 
up in the three plus range. 

1401
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,240
It was really, really good. 
Last year's targets, Brown run 

1402
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,680
shot up his weighted targets. 
Brown Run really strong. 

1403
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,520
I mean, just got better each 
year as like a young guy. 

1404
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,160
He's declaring early, like you 
gotta like everything that you 

1405
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,400
see in his profile. 
On paper, it's like what you 

1406
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,680
want. 
It's early Declare, right? 

1407
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,560
Yeah, no, I I I want paper. 
But it's like then he comes in 

1408
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:23,280
176 at the combine, only runs 
A441, says it's 'cause he was 

1409
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,760
sick, shows up at his pro day at
like 184 or something, and then 

1410
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,400
doesn't run. 
It's like, oh, you were sick, 

1411
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,240
why aren't you running? 
You know, like. 

1412
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,000
What's on a bunch of water 
weight? 

1413
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,920
Yeah, you dropped weight to get 
to 441. 

1414
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,120
Everyone thought this dude was 
going to run in the four threes.

1415
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:44,360
He shows up skinny and runs 441.
And then, you know, talking to 

1416
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,800
some of the film guys like 
Proton was like, dude, this 

1417
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,840
guy's like, he's not going to be
like winning on the outside in 

1418
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,120
the NFL very easily. 
He's very small. 

1419
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,400
You know, he like, I watched 
some of the highlights with 

1420
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,160
Brittany and she's just like, 
this dude's really skinny. 

1421
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,760
Like he gums out as being really
skinny. 

1422
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,320
He's he's pretty good after the 
catch. 

1423
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,560
Tez Walker's like another skinny
guy in this that's not as good 

1424
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,200
after the catch. 
And I I think, and I've heard 

1425
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,920
some good stuff on Troy 
Franklin's route running. 

1426
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,000
He varies his speeds well and so
the film community seems kind of

1427
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,480
mixed on him. 
But I wanted to be really into 

1428
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:23,400
Troy Franklin and then basically
since the combine I've I felt 

1429
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,200
like he's just a little bit 
harder like the. 

1430
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,800
When you when you said he was 
that skinny, you reminded me 

1431
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,200
that that Sean's like after his 
combine. 

1432
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,720
He's basically a perfect 
physical match for Robbie 

1433
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,320
Anderson. 
Robbie chosen That's actually. 

1434
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,720
A really good comp. 
Yeah. 

1435
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,240
Yeah. 
I like that. 

1436
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,400
But also not not favorable in 
terms of size. 

1437
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,920
Yeah, it reminds me in terms of 
his profile of Jalen Hyatt last 

1438
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,520
year, who was another guy that I
got pretty excited about and 

1439
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,880
didn't didn't pan out, at least 
in his rookie year. 

1440
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,360
So maybe it's wrong to chase 
that profile again. 

1441
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,520
But I'm I can't keep. 
I can't get away. 

1442
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,240
I like him a lot more than 
Hyatt, 'cause I think he can 

1443
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,560
play on the outside and Hyatt's 
about to move to the slot, which

1444
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,800
maybe that'll work. 
But it's not great if you're a 

1445
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,200
like a deep threat from the 
slot. 

1446
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,720
If that's your NFL role, it's 
kind of tough to earn volume. 

1447
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,680
All right, Pat, are we going to 
get our our first running back 

1448
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,320
pick here? 
You got you're still going to 

1449
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,520
piss over there? 
I'm going to finish pissing. 

1450
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,160
I've got, you know, kind of like
a couple more drops left. 

1451
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:29,320
Gotta gotta get that out. 
I'm going to go ahead and scoop 

1452
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:33,040
the falling value here. 
You guys don't care enough about

1453
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,600
NFL draft capital, OK? 
The most metric there is where 

1454
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,680
these guys get drafted. 
The NFL has their say. 

1455
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,720
Let's pay attention to the 
signal, OK? 

1456
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,840
Stop looking at the to the 
scouts. 

1457
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,080
Katie Mitchell, baby. 
You just told us he. 

1458
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:54,160
Sucks. 
I'm pretty sure he does. 

1459
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,240
And he's gonna be a. 
First round pick and he's super 

1460
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,280
athletic and he's got size and 
he's, you know, I don't know he 

1461
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:01,520
could play with Josh Allen or 
something. 

1462
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,200
What did you? 
Say his his yards per route run 

1463
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,600
wasn't we're. 
Bad Blair. 

1464
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,760
Don't bring that up. 
Yeah. 

1465
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,520
No, I was. 
Trying to finally get a value on

1466
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,120
AD. 
Mitchell, Eric I was literally 

1467
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,640
trying to come up with like 
anything I could 'cause I knew I

1468
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,840
saw the way this was going that 
I was going to have to take him 

1469
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,240
and just trying to come up with 
anything. 

1470
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,520
I kind of like AD Mitchell. 
He did score touches. 

1471
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,760
On that. 
Yeah, Ron, go for it. 

1472
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,880
Well, here's the thing. 
His A dot is kind of like 

1473
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,480
dependent on his quarterback. 
Where he's like his A dot This 

1474
01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:37,080
past year was 16 yards down 
field. 

1475
01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:39,680
And the issue is that there's 
there's, we talked about the 

1476
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,960
Jaden Daniels cut UPS. 
There's there's Quinn Ewer's cut

1477
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,680
UPS that'll make you cry or 80. 
Mitchell and Xavier Worthy are 

1478
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,360
butt naked wide open down field.
And Quinn Ewer's. 

1479
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:49,760
What is it? 
I don't even know what the 

1480
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,400
saying is. 
I can't hit the right side of a 

1481
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,720
barn or whatever the hell that 
is. 

1482
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,960
Broadside. 
Yeah, the broadside's talking. 

1483
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,680
In in similes and metaphors. 
I'm loving. 

1484
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,600
That just trying to paint a 
picture for the people out 

1485
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,360
there. 
The audio listeners in Quinn 

1486
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:08,000
Ewer's When We Look at PFF, 
Jayden Daniels had like a 69.1% 

1487
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,640
adjusted completion percentage 
on 20 plus yard throws. 

1488
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,280
That's like first in the class. 
Even though we talked about like

1489
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:13,840
he's not really hitting things 
on target. 

1490
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,480
Quinn he was last year, 36.2 
percent, 94th in the nation next

1491
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,360
to guys like Drew Alar. 
So, like, he was kind of like he

1492
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,440
plays a role that's going to be 
dependent on his quarterback and

1493
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:25,080
that's definitely a hindrance to
him. 

1494
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,600
But if he goes to one of these 
Mahomes or Josh Allen spots at 

1495
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,600
the back end of the draft, he 
does get pretty exciting. 

1496
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,440
Yeah, yeah, 'cause he does fall 
in that range. 

1497
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:37,440
When I did my video today, I I 
slotted him on the on the 

1498
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:41,240
Cowboys just thinking Jerry 
loving him and then him just 

1499
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,400
being like, all right, the 
gallop thing, let's let's get 

1500
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:48,400
some playmaker downfield 
alongside CD Lamb. 

1501
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,160
That one I could tell myself a 
little bit of a story with. 

1502
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,360
That's a good. 
Thing. 

1503
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,080
All right, Pat, you do have the 
back-to-back, the way this 

1504
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:04,360
worked out with pick 13 to kick 
us off with the what most people

1505
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,040
will recognize as the second 
round in their drafts, yeah. 

1506
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,440
I'll go ahead and and break the 
seal on running backs and take 

1507
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:16,800
Jonathan Brooks. 
This dude, I think, would be 

1508
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,760
pretty clearly like the 
consensus RB1 in all formats if 

1509
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,840
he hadn't torn his ACL in early 
December. 

1510
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,040
He was really productive at 20 
years old at Texas, averaged 142

1511
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,760
Kermit yards, 1.1 touchdowns per
game last season. 

1512
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,080
He didn't get on the field 
really until last year because 

1513
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,160
he was behind Bijon Robinson and
Roshan Johnson, which I'm not 

1514
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,920
really holding against him. 
You know, he was a true junior 

1515
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,040
this year, gets on the field. 
We do have a small sample 

1516
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,720
though, because he he just got 
out there for like 11 games I 

1517
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:56,560
think, and then towards ACL. 
But he had really nice breakaway

1518
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,760
ability, 67th percentile 
breakaway percentage, DeAndre 

1519
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,840
Swift esque. 
There 97th percentile elusive 

1520
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,840
ratings, three breaks tackles, 
1.46 square yards per outrun, 

1521
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,560
which is 76 percentile, the 29 
receiving yards per game. 

1522
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,640
So we had some decent production
there. 

1523
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,120
So versatility, breakaway 
ability can break tackles. 

1524
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,920
He's not the biggest back. 
Jacob Sanderson noted. 

1525
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,720
He was kind of concerned about 
him like in goal line situations

1526
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,000
and stuff. 
And I would kind of view him 

1527
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,960
like a little bit Maybe DeAndre 
Swifty in that way. 

1528
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:32,040
Like it's not maybe as I I don't
view him as like a a smash 

1529
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,720
prospect, things like a good not
great prospect. 

1530
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:41,720
But I do think there's upside 
for kind of like a A1A in the 

1531
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:46,240
swift mould where you're getting
receiving and you're getting 

1532
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,720
some big play ability out of it.
So I think the the nice 

1533
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,200
versatility as a receiver is is 
how we avoid him just being like

1534
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:57,480
a trap back. 
But yeah, this is this is where 

1535
01:18:57,480 --> 01:19:02,120
I'm taking the first run back. 
I should also know it seems like

1536
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,400
he's still going to be the 
number one running back drafted.

1537
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:07,200
That's not a lock, but he's 
still the favorite to be the 

1538
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,000
number one running back drafted,
which I think tells you a decent

1539
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,320
amount given he's coming off 20 
SEAL. 

1540
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:17,040
The way things might break too, 
with him coming back from ACL, 

1541
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,040
you know, say if he doesn't play
until later in the season or 

1542
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:25,000
kind of a slow ramp up, that 
probably helps buoy his year one

1543
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,360
to year two dynasty value, 
right? 

1544
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,560
Where you can just say, hey, the
sample size isn't big enough. 

1545
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,120
You know, the injury like we 
didn't get to see enough of him.

1546
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,840
Whereas like if you see him from
the start and he can't climb a 

1547
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,640
depth chart, you know, it's like
the giants take him or whatever 

1548
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,280
and he never surpasses Devin 
Singletary the whole season. 

1549
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,440
And you're kind of getting 
worried like it might be a 

1550
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:44,960
selling point for his dynasty 
value that he comes on late and 

1551
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,120
then we just have a smaller kind
of sample on what we're getting 

1552
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,640
from him. 
Kind of like Jameson Williams in

1553
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,640
a way, where like, he had a lot 
of goodwill. 

1554
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:54,920
Like even though he did nothing 
as a rookie, it was like a top 

1555
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,120
six round making startup. 
It's tough to wrestle with 

1556
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,960
though, 'cause, like I I only 
want to draft running backs if 

1557
01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:01,840
I'm trying to win really, in 
dynasty. 

1558
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,040
So it's like like as a 
rebuilding team, like I'd kind 

1559
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,160
of would rather like future 
draft capital than holding 

1560
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,200
Brooks on my bench. 
That's like kind of the, like, I

1561
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,480
think this is like the fine part
to take him, But in terms of 

1562
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:13,840
like, roster construction, it's 
very weird. 

1563
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,840
Like I I only want running backs
if I'm competing. 

1564
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,200
But he's not going to give you 
his, his, you know, top level 

1565
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,640
production until you know. 2025 
so. 

1566
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,920
I I love this point because 
there's also the issue of, like,

1567
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,880
running back primes are like 
their first three years in the 

1568
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,120
league. 
Like, that's when you want a 

1569
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,120
dude, and this is already giving
up one of those seasons in some 

1570
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,760
respects, or at least half of it
or something. 

1571
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,320
What if he goes and tears the 
ACL again later in in his rookie

1572
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,080
year after he comes back? 
What if he tears his other knee?

1573
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,280
You're fucked. 
Like you're. 

1574
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,000
Like you're JK Dobbins. 
Yeah. 

1575
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,600
And you're taking Dobbins like 
you're one strike down and 

1576
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,600
running backs only get two. 
They don't get three. 

1577
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:53,280
Yeah. 
Blair, I feel like some fun 

1578
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,840
decisions here still. 
What are you gonna do at 14? 

1579
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:04,000
Yeah, I think that Brooks and 
Trey Benson are almost, I mean, 

1580
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,480
I have them in the same tier. 
Me too. 

1581
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:07,800
I think. 
I think they're fairly 

1582
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,000
interchangeable. 
I have them back-to-back in my 

1583
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,840
overall, not even my rookie rank
'cause my overall dynasty. 

1584
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,080
Rank Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
They're pretty close. 

1585
01:21:16,440 --> 01:21:20,520
I mean Benson has, you know, 
obviously had a an awesome 

1586
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,240
combine. 
He put up some pretty crazy 

1587
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,760
numbers. 
I mean 4.4 yards after contact 

1588
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:30,600
per attempt in his sophomore 
year at Florida State, 31% 

1589
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:37,880
evasion rate, a little bit lower
in his junior year, but still 

1590
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,080
very good. 
So I'm I'm excited to to see 

1591
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:47,880
what he can do in the NFL. 
Yeah, Do we think they're if if 

1592
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,880
Brooks isn't first running back 
taken, it's Benson, right? 

1593
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,800
There's pretty much no way 
someone else jumps. 

1594
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:53,680
One of those. 
Two. 

1595
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,600
I think Chalen Wright has an 
outside shot, but it's those. 

1596
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,920
It's very likely those two. 
Chargers. 

1597
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,600
Blake corrum. 
Top of the second God. 

1598
01:22:01,480 --> 01:22:03,080
Man, yeah, maybe. 
Please, no. 

1599
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,680
I can't handle the discourse of 
Corrin chargers in the second 

1600
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,120
round. 
Yeah, so. 

1601
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,200
I'm gonna end up trapped them. 
Any other thoughts on on Trey 

1602
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,960
Benson? 
I've been selecting the hell out

1603
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,840
of him in Best Ball Drafts right
now, but would love a a dynasty 

1604
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,480
share as well. 
Yeah, my running back model 

1605
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:30,000
says. 
My, my, one thing with Benson, I

1606
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,000
actually flirted with having him
as my RB1 and then I got nervous

1607
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,600
because I'm not sure he goes 
well. 

1608
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,000
There's a very good chance he 
doesn't go second round and he's

1609
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,960
this college committee back and 
Blair was looking at backfield 

1610
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:49,560
dominated rating which is such 
an awesome that and it's one of 

1611
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,040
these things where I mean you 
you've you've written about this

1612
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,480
like backfield domino rating is 
not the biggest thing we need to

1613
01:22:55,480 --> 01:22:58,200
be concerned about with second 
round running backs or first 

1614
01:22:58,200 --> 01:22:59,600
round running backs. 
We see all the time you know 

1615
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,880
college committee backs 
athletic, which Benson very much

1616
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,240
is gets drafted high gets 
installed. 

1617
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:08,840
As a starter, we're good to go, 
but it's not the best sign for 

1618
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,680
dude who might be like a middle 
of the third round pit. 

1619
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,400
What if he comes in? 
What if he has to displace 

1620
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,040
someone who's good? 
He never really displaced 

1621
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,200
anybody. 
He's he's a committee back. 

1622
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,960
He didn't run a ton of routes. 
He didn't, you know, handle a 

1623
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,520
ton of the production. 
So that's I'm actually very, 

1624
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,280
really, really hyper focused on 
Benson's draft capital. 

1625
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,920
Obviously it matters a ton for 
every running back, but I think 

1626
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,680
it's going to sort of tell us 
what the NFL thinks he is in a 

1627
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,400
really important way. 
He if you want the FUD, he's 

1628
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,200
never had 1000 rushing yards and
he tore his ACL his freshman 

1629
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:42,080
year. 
I think that's something that 

1630
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,160
goes really under the radar is 
he already has a torn ACL. 

1631
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,680
Not that that's, you know, not 
that he's going to have the same

1632
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,200
issues in college, but it's 
certainly, you know, it's 

1633
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,080
certainly a a data point. 
Yep. 

1634
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,520
Ben on the clock with the 15th 
overall pick. 

1635
01:23:59,480 --> 01:24:03,520
I don't really know what to do. 
It's probably a running back 

1636
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,040
pick. 
My boy Michael Pennix has been 

1637
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:11,000
not the next quarterback up, but
he ran AA45 or something. 

1638
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,880
Galen hurts like Cam Newton's 
speed. 

1639
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,760
It shocked me. 
I would have put him at like 

1640
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,560
4-8. 
He ran like A455 or something. 

1641
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,240
Today in this pro day, I think 
you're gonna see him get 

1642
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,800
boosted, 'cause he doesn't. 
That doesn't go on film and 

1643
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,560
stuff, but people are like, oh, 
he's sneaky athletic, he doesn't

1644
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:31,320
use his legs. 
So anyway, I think it would be 

1645
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,640
interesting. 
It wouldn't be weird to see him 

1646
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,160
in this range. 
Wasn't there some medical 

1647
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,200
concerns about him and that 
would? 

1648
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,600
Be big time medical concerns. 
Yeah big time medical concerns 

1649
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,760
for him and and he never really 
wanted to take hets even in the 

1650
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,040
pocket let alone like running 
the ball and never ran the ball.

1651
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,920
He has a really low sack rate 
and I saw someone reference the 

1652
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,200
the good forty time and say 
that's maybe why he had a low 

1653
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,320
sack rate. 
No man the the low sack rate was

1654
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,160
because every time someone came 
through the line he just threw 

1655
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,680
the ball away like it was he was
not going to take a hit. 

1656
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,800
It wasn't like he was evading 
hits which is a a concern for me

1657
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:00,880
and for the next level 
certainly. 

1658
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,680
But I'm going to go. 
I don't even have this guy 

1659
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,120
ranked as my next receiver, but 
I want to draft him, so I'm 

1660
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,120
going to. 
I'm going to take Xavier 

1661
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,240
Leggett. 
OK, nice. 

1662
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,840
Yeah, I like to. 
So his first Four Seasons, which

1663
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,040
is a lot of time, it's all the 
years that you want to see 

1664
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,040
production and then one that 
you're already saying he should 

1665
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,120
have like been in the in the 
league by now. 

1666
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:27,200
He only ran like 500 total 
routes and wasn't good for 

1667
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,280
basically any of that until last
year. 

1668
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,480
And then last year he ran about 
400 routes and was really, 

1669
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,840
really good. 
His targets per outrun jumped up

1670
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,240
a bunch into a solid range at a 
really high A dot with really 

1671
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,760
strong efficiency gave him, you 
know, a 3.15 yards per outrun. 

1672
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,280
It was as a fifth year guy. 
That's the concern. 

1673
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,000
Nothing prior to his fifth year 
is even like remotely good. 

1674
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,040
I mean, it's all very, very bad 
in his profile. 

1675
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,920
But Sean wrote about I'm going 
to quote the wrote of his guy 

1676
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:00,960
again wrote about how he was an 
athlete prospect out of college,

1677
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,840
I mean out of high school and 
again didn't never ran more than

1678
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,720
200 routes in any of his first 
Four Seasons. 

1679
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,120
So like probably was still 
learning the position a little 

1680
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,880
bit with a guy like this it's a 
little bit like the Chase 

1681
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,160
Claypool profile all that stuff.
When we see these really late 

1682
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,760
breakouts we want the 
athleticism that's I'm stealing 

1683
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,920
that from Sean as well. 
I got to always quote him on on 

1684
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,080
all this stuff but it's like 
these guys have to have the 

1685
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,120
physical traits. 
The reason we don't love the 

1686
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,560
physical traits that don't have 
the production often is like you

1687
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,600
couldn't produce at the college 
level against weaker 

1688
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,320
competition. 
You have that athleticism, then,

1689
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:32,960
like, how's that going to 
manifest in the pros? 

1690
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,640
But what I'd like is that even 
though it was late, we did 

1691
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,000
finally see it manifest. 
We saw it manifest in some 

1692
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,640
volume earning ability. 
We saw it manifest in efficiency

1693
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,440
after the volume earning as 
well. 

1694
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,040
I'm willing to sell myself a 
little bit that he needed time 

1695
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:47,880
to develop. 
I'm willing to sell myself on a 

1696
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,680
late breakout a little bit, 
'cause his athleticism is so 

1697
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,280
dominant and it's the type of 
athleticism that whoever drafts 

1698
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:57,240
him is gonna be thinking about 
ways that he can tilt things 

1699
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,680
schematically for them 
offensively, like they're gonna 

1700
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,160
want to use them. 
I wasn't very like, this is a a 

1701
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,520
learning thing for me as well. 
Like Ron was saying a few years 

1702
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,040
back, I was really, really high 
on A.J. 

1703
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,080
Brown. 
I was not as high on DK Metcalf,

1704
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,200
correspondingly cause DK 
Metcalf's rookie prospect 

1705
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,800
production wasn't that great. 
I don't think Leggette is 

1706
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,640
necessarily on DK Metcalf's 
level, but I think that was a 

1707
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,160
miss for me on Metcalf because I
couldn't see that the team that 

1708
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,480
drafted him, the Seahawks, 
eventually we're going to be 

1709
01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:23,800
like, this guy's an athletic 
freak, we're going to put him 

1710
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:24,880
out there. 
People have talked about 

1711
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,160
Metcalf's route tree not being 
very developed for years. 

1712
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:30,720
It doesn't really matter when 
you're that good of an athlete, 

1713
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,880
like you're still a better 
athlete than an NFL players as 

1714
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,080
long as you are a certain degree
of producer is my is my 

1715
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,960
argument. 
And I think we'll get showed 

1716
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,960
enough in that fifth year that I
want to I want to buy in a 

1717
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:44,720
little bit. 
I want to be. 

1718
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:45,840
I want to be in on this a little
bit. 

1719
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,800
Yeah, it's fun. 
He is fun. 

1720
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,520
Can you add the note? 
I want to draft him, so I'm 

1721
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:58,720
going to. 
There we go. 

1722
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,760
All right, I'm on the clock with
pick 16. 

1723
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,920
I kind of feel similar to how 
Pat felt with maybe his 80 

1724
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,720
Mitchell pick and that this 
isn't my favorite guy. 

1725
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,960
But I do think the draft capital
is going to be there. 

1726
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,080
Feels like a million teams are 
going to fall in love with Ladd 

1727
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,400
Mcconkey. 
I feel like a weird profile, 

1728
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,000
too. 
I I was reading some of what 

1729
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,200
Gretch was writing about him 
today. 

1730
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:27,120
Obviously gets pigeonholed, but 
an an, an athlete and the draft 

1731
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,920
capital, like I said, gonna be 
there, can maybe play all over 

1732
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,160
the field, too, not just in the 
slot and then just kind of the 

1733
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,640
weird production profile. 
That kind of makes you a little 

1734
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:41,920
spooked about why he didn't earn
more targets in college. 

1735
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,480
But if he goes back into the 
first round, I feel like getting

1736
01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:48,960
him at the top of the second 
round of a dynasty rookie draft 

1737
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,640
is going to feel pretty good. 
He's a dude. 

1738
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,400
I had ranked ahead of Leggette, 
but I just took Leggette, 'cause

1739
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,520
I wanted to, yeah. 
I mean, that was the funner pick

1740
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,280
for sure. 
He's a weird prospect and like I

1741
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,760
would have taken him where where
Ben was drafting too and the 

1742
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,960
chat looks like they wanted him,
so everyone's excited about him.

1743
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:13,080
But like he his statistical 
profile is is pretty bad, but 

1744
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:18,200
it's like he's really athletic. 
The the film evaluation on him 

1745
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,080
is like he wins kind of the way 
a lot of modern receivers are 

1746
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,560
winning. 
I did a podcast today with the 

1747
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,200
NBC guys and Denny was just 
like, I'm extremely confident 

1748
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,480
that this guy's going to produce
fantasy points wherever he goes.

1749
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:31,600
So let's drop that. 
One down. 

1750
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:37,320
Seems pretty fair. 
The the, the, the athletic stuff

1751
01:29:37,480 --> 01:29:40,640
or I mean, sorry, the production
stuff is bad on a raw basis, but

1752
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,240
part of that's 'cause he didn't 
run a lot of raps. 

1753
01:29:42,440 --> 01:29:46,520
I mean, like his whole culture, 
165 is freshman year, only 352 

1754
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,280
is sophomore year, which is far 
and away is highest and it's 

1755
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,920
still not very high. 
And then 148 last year is his 

1756
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,560
lowest but on a PER. 
Basis. 

1757
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,440
OK, on a per out basis, the 
targets per out run were good. 

1758
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,280
Efficiency's pretty strong high 
A dot the last two years like 

1759
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,000
Pete was saying like he gets 
like typecast as his white, you 

1760
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,480
know white receiver, but he's 
actually like 12 + a dot white 

1761
01:30:09,480 --> 01:30:10,800
receiver. 
It's a little bit unique. 

1762
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,000
We don't see that a whole lot 
yards per out run over three 

1763
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,200
last year. 
Like I was just talking about 

1764
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,600
that, how good that you know is 
as far as a benchmark and he was

1765
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:24,040
2.71 as a true freshman on the 
small route sample, not as great

1766
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,280
as middle year when he had the 
the biggest route sample. 

1767
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,600
But like the per route stuff 
does make him more interesting. 

1768
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,280
I I think he's kind of a high 
floor guy too. 

1769
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,360
Like, I'm with Denny, where I'm 
like, he's gonna be, he's gonna 

1770
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:34,680
be good. 
He's not gonna be amazing, but 

1771
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:39,040
he's gonna be good. 
Yeah, all right, the chat. 

1772
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,680
I'm getting this poll ready for 
them. 

1773
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:46,960
Here we are about to see how 
united or divided they are. 

1774
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,040
Did seem like they had a 
consensus on the three to vote 

1775
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:51,280
on. 
They got wide receiver Keon 

1776
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,720
Coleman, wide receiver Roman 
Wilson and running back Jalen 

1777
01:30:54,720 --> 01:31:00,720
Wright as their options here. 
You guys have thoughts about 

1778
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:08,080
this decision for the chat? 
I mean I think it's very tight I

1779
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:12,240
I don't I actually have Ladd, 
Coleman and Wilson all 

1780
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,400
back-to-back to back in my 
ranks. 

1781
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,400
So I would I would be leaning to
one of the receivers, but. 

1782
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:23,440
I think I'd be going QB oh 
'cause you're it's it's Ron 

1783
01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:25,320
versus the chat in the next 4 
picks. 

1784
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:32,120
I think I'd be in the QBI. 
I I mean I'm seeing like if you 

1785
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:38,280
go to grinding the mocks like 
they're saying that Nyx and and 

1786
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,840
and some of the mocks I've been 
seeing have have Bonex going 

1787
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,200
like 12. 
I was talking up Penex cause of 

1788
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,000
his his forty time I think he 
might rise. 

1789
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,760
Grinding the mocks has their 
average averages. 

1790
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,520
Bonex at 15, Michael Penex at 
19.4. 

1791
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:54,560
Like, these are guys that are 
gonna go on like the Mack Jones 

1792
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,720
range and probably get a chance 
to start early. 

1793
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,720
It's a pretty good Superflex 
second round pick, right pat. 

1794
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,320
Yeah, no, I I kind of liked Nyx.
I came out of the my quarterback

1795
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:09,080
evaluations being and and I 
probably irritated some JJ 

1796
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:10,960
McCarthy fans with with the 
Knicks comment. 

1797
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,440
But I actually think Nyx is like
kind of good. 

1798
01:32:14,440 --> 01:32:17,480
Like he's not like great, but 
like is a if you're trying to 

1799
01:32:17,480 --> 01:32:21,600
like plug in a a dude in a 
system like Sean Payton's, you 

1800
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,920
can kind of make the make the 
throws and execute it and you 

1801
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:27,360
know he can throw in the middle 
field. 

1802
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,080
Like he's not amazing at 
anything. 

1803
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,320
But I wouldn't be shocked if he 
went twelve. 

1804
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,800
I think Denver, like Denver's in
a spot where they like have to 

1805
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,600
do something. 
If what they have to do is sit 

1806
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,120
tight and take a quarterback, 
like I think they'll just, you 

1807
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,760
know eat that. 
That's that's kind of what the 

1808
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:45,960
position. 
Makes sense. 

1809
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,360
See what you're What do you get 
out of him this year while you 

1810
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,040
have the 48 million dead cap or 
whatever? 

1811
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,560
And if you hit on it, great. 
You build around that for the 

1812
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,600
rest of his rookie deal. 
If not, you weren't. 

1813
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,600
You needed a cheap quarterback 
this year anyway 'cause you have

1814
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,200
all this dead money at QB 
already. 

1815
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,240
And if that comes, if that 
materializes, like we just all 

1816
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,640
passed on Sean Payton's first 
round quarterback. 

1817
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,720
He has no drew duties. 
Dudes, none of us really like 

1818
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:10,640
that much. 
Oh God. 

1819
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,720
And everything about Nyx, that's
the knock. 

1820
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,200
Is that all he did was throw 
underneath? 

1821
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:15,920
And Sean Payne's like, that's my
whole offense. 

1822
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,160
That's my whole thing. 
Since fucking 22,000. 

1823
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,760
Five I literally I can't be 
bothered to get Marvin Menzel on

1824
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,680
the field 'cause he runs routes 
too far. 

1825
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,240
The chat we're dumping Jalen 
Wright. 

1826
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,800
He was losing in the poll, but 
Keon Coleman and Roman Wilson 

1827
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,120
were neck and neck. 
So we now need to see what these

1828
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:42,720
Roman Wilson or sorry, Jalen 
Wright drafters want to do here.

1829
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,560
And I will not put air 
percentages from that last poll 

1830
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:52,400
in this time to confuse us. 
Keon Coleman versus Roman versus

1831
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:57,440
Roman Wilson here. 
Where do you guys think for for 

1832
01:33:57,440 --> 01:34:00,080
these rookie drafts in general? 
I mean, we talked through a few 

1833
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:05,120
of the tear breaks, you know, 
after 10 for JJ McCarthy. 

1834
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:10,440
Do you think we're like after 
these next three picks another 

1835
01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:13,880
pretty big tear gap or is this 
smoother for you guys? 

1836
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,080
After these or for these I 
think. 

1837
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:24,320
After these next three picks. 
Yeah, I'm. 

1838
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:27,200
Talking about the QBs, 'cause I 
think it's pretty flat, like 

1839
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,920
that's where I'm like you got to
insert these middle of the first

1840
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,120
round QBs. 
If they do get that's I would be

1841
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:34,240
there. 
Now is what I. 

1842
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,080
Think it's a short day? 
Yeah. 

1843
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,640
I think there are a few other 
guys that I would have in about 

1844
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,640
the same tier as Coleman and 
Wilson and Wright. 

1845
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:47,440
Yeah, yeah, it looks like. 
Let's see if we can get a few 

1846
01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:50,960
more votes in Keon Coleman, 59% 
of the votes right now. 

1847
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:55,560
Wide receiver Roman Wilson, 
Thank you to everyone watching 

1848
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,800
along and voting tonight, and 
thank you to Ron and Blair 

1849
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,560
joining us. 
This is a fun annual tradition 

1850
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:06,000
and can't wait for a year to 
look back and see which of. 

1851
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:10,840
The I'm getting, Ron, I know 
you're into March Madness and 

1852
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:12,600
you're missing it. 
I want to get your thoughts on 

1853
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,160
did you have a lot of Arizona, 
'cause I certainly. 

1854
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,960
Did I had them in a couple 
brackets but I did. 

1855
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,800
I've had a pretty brutal I had a
brutal betting first round, but 

1856
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:25,240
I I did have Clemson +7 and 
money line, so just. 

1857
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:26,560
Oh wow. 
I mean just something to. 

1858
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,680
Know they have a They have a 
good team, man. 

1859
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,920
Just something to know. 
Just something to know. 

1860
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,400
There you go. 
Nailed the upset of the of the 

1861
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:35,600
day. 
No big deal. 

1862
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,320
It looks like, yeah, we only 
have 40 votes right now. 

1863
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,520
This is, it's our viewers keep 
going up and the votes go down. 

1864
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:44,600
I don't know. 
How that's. 

1865
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:49,800
That's happening. 
Exercise your right to democracy

1866
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,760
chat here. 
I am going to lock this up for 

1867
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,800
Keon Coleman though to keep us 
moving even though Roman making 

1868
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,400
a bit of a search why he said 
that locked in he was getting 

1869
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,920
too close. 
It's getting past by bedtime 

1870
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,440
We're we we got to start to 
speed this bad boy up here. 

1871
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,080
That's right. 
Anyone have takes on Keon 

1872
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,160
Coleman? 
I like Keon Coleman. 

1873
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:15,440
I like him. 
I wanted. 

1874
01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:19,080
I wanted him at this 18 pick. 
He's going to be a top 50 pick 

1875
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,360
in the NFL. 
The contested catch stuff is 

1876
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,720
there, but like, he's almost, 
he's almost like a discounted 

1877
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,880
version of your, you know, your 
contested catch guys of your 

1878
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,920
Quan Johnston's like, everyone's
scared off of the profile. 

1879
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:33,320
Sure, I understand why. 
But you know, he is one of these

1880
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:34,480
guys. 
Like, I feel like he is one of 

1881
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:37,880
those kind of like vintage 
rotoviz where he's like, vague, 

1882
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,120
right? 
He's like what, like 215 lbs, 

1883
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,320
six, three. 
The contested catch stuff isn't 

1884
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,160
great but he is also this like 
he he's very young. 

1885
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,120
He played at Michigan State like
he almost reminds me of Drake 

1886
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:52,640
London who also had a a pretty 
high contested catch rate you 

1887
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:54,800
know compared to what we're 
comfortable with. 

1888
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:59,280
And then like this this is a 
little bit like not great. 

1889
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,600
But he he did well at the 
combine man where like he didn't

1890
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,760
run fast but he had the fastest 
gauntlet run where he ran 20 mph

1891
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:07,280
in the gauntlet when they're 
firing balls at you. 

1892
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,480
And each side is like pretty 
damn impressive top five numbers

1893
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:13,520
in terms of mph tracking for all
the different routes. 

1894
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,440
So he has a lot of confidence in
his hands. 

1895
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,920
He seems like one of these guys 
are just like on a not on a 

1896
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:19,960
different level as an athlete 
but he's a great jumper. 

1897
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,800
He, you know, has the basketball
background. 

1898
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,760
He's young. 
He has some drip to him as well 

1899
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:26,440
where he like. 
You can see pictures of him 

1900
01:37:26,440 --> 01:37:30,520
wearing 2 mouthpieces which I 
love you know leg sleeve going. 

1901
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,240
He was taking punt returns as 
well as like a four, six guy 

1902
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:34,800
which gives you some Nikhil 
Harry Vibes. 

1903
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,080
I know he did that at Arizona 
State. 

1904
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,880
But you know you're not paying 
top five. 

1905
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:42,320
You know, he, he looks like 
Nikhil Harry, you know Quentin 

1906
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,240
Johnston, but you're not paying 
top half of the first round. 

1907
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:48,200
So anytime in the second round 
that I see Keon Coleman, I like 

1908
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,880
him because if he hits in the 
correct way, he could be kind of

1909
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,160
what we're hoping Drake London 
is. 

1910
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,160
Guys, is that the first time 
that the term drip has been used

1911
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,680
on ship chasing, I think? 
Dude, I I'm, I'm trying not to 

1912
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,840
get passed by here as an analyst
and. 

1913
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:04,640
We're feeling kind of old right 
now. 

1914
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,880
Yeah, no, that's weird. 
The boomers, you know. 

1915
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:12,480
And I mean, it's the second time
today what who's? 

1916
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,320
I can't remember stuff. 
I think it was Denny was 

1917
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,400
talking, yeah, Denny was talking
about Ricky Pearsall with his 

1918
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,840
hair, that he's, he's got some 
of the best hair, best hairline 

1919
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,600
and he takes the helmet off and 
his hair is perfectly quaffed 

1920
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,760
still. 
So great tattoos, great tattoos.

1921
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:32,680
So there's a couple guys that 
have drip. 

1922
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:34,800
Yeah, I mean, only welcome. 
Had a ton of it. 

1923
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,320
Yeah, yeah, that's that's the 
delivery of the guy who's about 

1924
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:41,880
to be a dad here. 
Pete I wanna I wanna nominate a 

1925
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,000
a quote though I I heard 
discount Quinton Johnson in 

1926
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,240
there, which I think is a real 
strong argument for for taking 

1927
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,120
Keon Coleman here. 
Yeah. 

1928
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,320
Strong argument for taking him. 
I'm coming back for more. 

1929
01:38:54,440 --> 01:38:55,560
I'm coming. 
Back for more. 

1930
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:56,960
Yeah, he's. 
He's taking. 

1931
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,600
On 80 Mitchell, too, it's a 
similar profile. 

1932
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,160
Right it is. 
It's reminiscent of 80 for sure.

1933
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:06,080
Yeah. 
All right, at pick 18, the Riz 

1934
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,560
God himself, Ron, is, is on the 
clock. 

1935
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:11,480
Look that one up on Urban 
Dictionary, Pat. 

1936
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,600
I've heard it. 
I've heard it isn't baby croc 

1937
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:15,800
got the Riz. 
Is that? 

1938
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:18,800
Yeah, baby Croc got the most riz
of anyone. 

1939
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,800
Who I will be taking here is 
Bonex. 

1940
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,120
Pretty much pencil him in as 
Sean Payton's first round 

1941
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:27,640
quarterback. 
Everyone's going to look stupid 

1942
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,920
here, and I have. 
I have one stat to present to 

1943
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:32,240
you guys. 
I love Bow Nicks to you. 

1944
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,760
Like, like, he had a really 
awful stretch at Auburn, but 

1945
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,000
like, still not terrible if you 
kind of peel back the currents a

1946
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:38,400
little bit. 
Like his pressure to sack stuff 

1947
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,440
there wasn't terrible. 
He doesn't take bad sacks. 

1948
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:44,480
He plays somewhat smart. 
And The thing is that's very 

1949
01:39:44,480 --> 01:39:47,320
discounted with him is his 
rushing ability is very 

1950
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,720
underrated. 
The stat that I'll present to 

1951
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:51,720
you is that both of them played 
five years. 

1952
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,240
Jaden Daniels has 34 rushing 
touchdowns. 

1953
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:57,240
Bow Nicks has 38 third first of 
my database. 

1954
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,520
He has a huge huge like red zone
ability to rush. 

1955
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,960
He was a dual threat coming out 
of high school as like a five 

1956
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,160
star recruit. 
I think that he has a lot more 

1957
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,480
move and wiggle than we're 
giving him credit for. 

1958
01:40:07,480 --> 01:40:11,240
So he's really not all that like
my like you know I'll push the 

1959
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:13,360
glasses in for a second. 
My my model like absolutely 

1960
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:14,920
loves him like it. 
It thinks it should be should be

1961
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,000
like a top 12 pick but also is 
an account for COVID year. 

1962
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:19,520
So you know you can look at it 
either way. 

1963
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,280
My model likes them too. 
Pete, were you trying to spell 

1964
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,320
Rizz there? 
Let's What were you trying to 

1965
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:25,680
spell? 
No. 

1966
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,320
That's that's let's ride. 
But this is the kids 

1967
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:31,000
pronunciation. 
It's a little Internet slang 

1968
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:32,480
there. 
A little Russell Wilson call 

1969
01:40:32,480 --> 01:40:33,880
back. 
No. 

1970
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:35,200
No. 
Yeah. 

1971
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,880
So do you you think you think 
it's programmed Bonex to the 

1972
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:42,720
Broncos there? 
For the for the integrity of 

1973
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,600
this mock, I'll just, I'll you 
know I'll take the fall and I'll

1974
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,560
I'll just like conservatively 
put them there. 

1975
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:55,080
All right, I like it. 
The the chat Mac Nova here is 

1976
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:58,120
list trying to list out who but 
who you guys should. 

1977
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,320
Oh, it's the Jetavion Sanders 
guy. 

1978
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:02,280
Got it. 
OK. 

1979
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,680
Yeah. 
I was like, Who's JT Sanders? 

1980
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:08,160
I haven't seen the JT moniker, 
but it's the the the longer 

1981
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:08,600
name. 
Got it. 

1982
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,480
Let me give, let me give one 
more stat here with Bonex 

1983
01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:13,760
pressure to Saccharate's been 
something that's like that's I I

1984
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,080
mentioned that's the only WI can
take as Anthony Richardson last 

1985
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:17,560
year, I mentioned it last year 
with Andy Richardson. 

1986
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,640
He has like an uncandidated 
ability to not get sacked. 

1987
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:25,160
Andy Richardson's pressure to 
saccharate 9.9% Mahomes 11.3% 

1988
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:28,960
Boenix 11.6% second lowest in 
the class behind Michael Pennix,

1989
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,560
so he avoids sax. 
He does everything pretty 

1990
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,520
correctly. 
Like, I don't know that he'll be

1991
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,040
a first round startup pick, but 
I do like Nicks if he gets the 

1992
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,520
capital and the opportunity to 
start. 

1993
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,000
I mean I had a little fun in my 
write up of him but I I was like

1994
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,640
if I told you that Nicks has a 
little Mahomes to his game you'd

1995
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:50,120
be like what the fuck? 
But he and he does He when he 

1996
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,520
when you were talking about the 
highs of their games they he 

1997
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,120
does not at all. 
But he does have the consistent 

1998
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,640
lack of lows which is a huge 
part of Mahomes game and 

1999
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,880
something that probably doesn't 
get enough love in Mahomes game.

2000
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,640
And one of the reasons that I 
think that Caleb Williams comps 

2001
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:06,240
to Mahomes. 
You know not the people saying 

2002
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,880
he's Mahomes but do keep that in
mind with Williams that he does 

2003
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:10,400
not. 
He does not have that part. 

2004
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,200
He has the highs not the 
consistent lack of lows. 

2005
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,120
It's going to be a little bit 
more frustrating for sure, but 

2006
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,000
Knicks avoids mistakes really, 
really well. 

2007
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,200
And I I do think if that's if he
goes in the first round, I think

2008
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,400
that that's going to be, you 
know why Probably Sean Payton 

2009
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:26,520
feels comfortable making that 
bet. 

2010
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:32,680
All right, after a brief dust up
and confusion in the chat, of 

2011
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:35,280
which there have been many 
tonight, we did just settle on 

2012
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:39,280
Roman Wilson, who was not too 
far behind Kian Coleman in that 

2013
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,600
last vote. 
Any takes from the panel on 

2014
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:46,000
Roman Wilson here? 
Good pick. 

2015
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:51,320
Chat So I like me too. 
Is that you were hoping he'd 

2016
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:55,480
fall to you then? 
No, no, I I just was talking 

2017
01:42:55,480 --> 01:42:57,360
shit to the chat. 
I actually didn't write him up 

2018
01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,520
today. 
I only wrote up the the top ten 

2019
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,200
and grinding the mocks. 
He wasn't there for for draft 

2020
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,400
Capital and what they're listing
right now. 

2021
01:43:04,440 --> 01:43:06,920
So I think he's expected to be 
like the 11th. 

2022
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,360
Receiver though I was looking at
some of the additional names and

2023
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,200
making some extra notes, but I 
didn't do like a deep dive into 

2024
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,080
him yet. 
I think all these guys in the 

2025
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:18,920
Michigan passing offense are 
just, you kind of have to take 

2026
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,560
their numbers with a little bit 
of a grain of salt. 

2027
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,480
You know, I was a little 
disappointed Wilson didn't 

2028
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,520
didn't do better at the combine 
than he did, but I still like 

2029
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:29,360
him. 
Really. 

2030
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:30,600
Didn't he have a 439? 
What? 

2031
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:33,680
What? 
Oh I know, but he there was talk

2032
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,840
about him doing like low 4 
threes and running a 6.5 

2033
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:42,280
something three cone. 
OK, he did. 

2034
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:44,960
He did well. 
But it it was just, you know, 

2035
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,080
the hype was. 
'Cause he's kind of small, 

2036
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:48,840
right? 
And he's not like a the gap for 

2037
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,520
the catch guy and you want him 
to just be an Uber athlete. 

2038
01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:56,200
He's a little Mcconkey task. 
It's kind of like this. 

2039
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:57,880
He's a similar Clive to 
Mcconkey. 

2040
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:03,320
All right, Ron, pick 20. 
What you gonna do here? 

2041
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,120
I'm just going to take two 
swings and hope one of these 

2042
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:06,480
quarterbacks get drafted in the 
first round. 

2043
01:44:06,480 --> 01:44:10,520
So give me Michael Panics here, 
We'll see if he gets drafted in 

2044
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:12,000
the first round. 
I'm I'm going to be honest with 

2045
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,480
you, Gretch. 
I'm very bummed that you said 

2046
01:44:13,480 --> 01:44:15,600
like the 40 doesn't really 
matter for his pressure to sack 

2047
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,240
rate, 'cause that would have 
been great for my narrative to 

2048
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:17,720
be like. 
Wow. 

2049
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,360
What is the 40? 
And like, yes, he doesn't 

2050
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:23,720
scramble, but he has the lowest 
pressure to sack rate in my 

2051
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,240
database. 
But you kind of said more or 

2052
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:27,480
less that it's because he's a 
pussy. 

2053
01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:30,880
He doesn't want to get hit it. 
It's kind of the Tank Man. 

2054
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,480
The Acls are an issue but he 
does. 

2055
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:38,520
I have like I I don't grind film
but like outside of Joe Milton 

2056
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,920
he has like probably the best 
arm in the class like it's it's 

2057
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,840
up there with everybody. 
So he's fun. 

2058
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,560
He has kind of an excuse for why
he stayed in school so long that

2059
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,800
the ACL's and kind of like weird
stuff with Indiana. 

2060
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,360
And I think I think the Bower 
came with him from Indiana. 

2061
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:53,880
Was that is that true Gretsch 
where the Bower came with them 

2062
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:55,160
or maybe Grubbs one of the two 
he. 

2063
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,440
They they both. 
I believe they both. 

2064
01:44:58,480 --> 01:45:03,440
Or maybe it was just Deborah, 
but he Deborah was his OC while 

2065
01:45:03,440 --> 01:45:06,160
he was at Indiana early on. 
Then Depor went to Fresno State 

2066
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:08,840
for a few years. 
Then Deport came to UW and he 

2067
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,840
came to play under him because 
they had that history at Indiana

2068
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:14,640
like early. 
Like, I think Pennix is true 

2069
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,720
freshman year. 
The issue is his floor is like 

2070
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,480
Carson Strong. 
If you guys remember him, he 

2071
01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:22,800
like came out of like Utah State
huge arm statue guy and just 

2072
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,680
like retired like a year ago. 
So that's kind of what you're 

2073
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:31,160
dealing with. 
All right, Blair, take 21. 

2074
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,240
All right, let's go. 
A guy we've talked about a 

2075
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:38,040
little, Jalen Wright. 
I thought maybe there was a 

2076
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:41,400
chance he would fall to me. 
Yeah, he's, I think he's 

2077
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,560
probably the end of a tier for 
me and I probably would have 

2078
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:46,880
taken him even ahead of like the
last I. 

2079
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:48,680
Don't know. 
Five guys who have gone. 

2080
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:51,120
But. 
Yeah. 

2081
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,720
Just the the low key. 
A lot of lot of really shitty 

2082
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,960
picks. 
You guys got the chat, Rod? 

2083
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:00,760
Yeah, the other chat just got a 
flame. 

2084
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:08,080
Audie. 
No. 

2085
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,120
I mean, yeah, those guys are 
good. 

2086
01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:16,200
But Jay Lenard is also. 
A good guy, the. 

2087
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:19,480
Not a good recovery, me either. 
Yeah. 

2088
01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:27,360
Man, I'm torn, 'cause I think 
there's a lot of different ways 

2089
01:46:27,480 --> 01:46:31,240
I could go here. 
I could reach for another wide 

2090
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:35,680
receiver that I love. 
I could crank purple with a 

2091
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:39,080
tight end, and then there's a 
couple running backs that I 

2092
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,440
could select here. 
I I want some more running back 

2093
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:44,680
love. 
I've been drafting this guy a 

2094
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:46,320
bunch. 
Right now I'm going to take 

2095
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,120
Braylon Allen. 
I get the feeling that he could 

2096
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:54,000
be, you know, the 3rd or 4th 
running back off the board. 

2097
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:59,480
I could see him potentially 
being a guy that finds his way 

2098
01:46:59,480 --> 01:47:01,080
into one of those nice landing 
spots. 

2099
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,000
You know, whether that's like 
the Chargers, the Cowboys, the 

2100
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:08,320
Raiders, kind of a big back. 
Davis has told me all kinds of 

2101
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,560
glowing things about Braylon 
Allen that I'm starting to buy 

2102
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,360
into a little bit. 
But yeah, just wanted to to have

2103
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,840
some fun and draft a running 
back for once in this goddamn 

2104
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,960
mock draft. 
I hate that he ducked the 40 

2105
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,280
twice. 
I would have liked to see him 

2106
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,840
run at 235 lbs like a speed 
score. 

2107
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:27,680
You. 
Know like, even if he had, even 

2108
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,720
if he had run like a four six, 
that still would have been a 

2109
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,000
decent speed score at 2:00. 
Yeah, that would have been fine.

2110
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,040
Yeah. 
All right. 

2111
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,480
I'll make. 
It very young, it's like 19. 

2112
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,360
Maybe, yeah. 
I think the youngest, maybe the 

2113
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:42,360
youngest player at any position 
in the draft. 

2114
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,400
Yep. 
Do you I I mean I guess we could

2115
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:49,720
figure it out with some it picks
here if it Pat and Ben but you 

2116
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:54,840
guys have are you would you guys
be Quorum or Marshawn Lloyd or 

2117
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,360
someone over Braylon. 
Yeah, I would. 

2118
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:04,480
But I think Braylon Allen gives 
you a bigger hit if he hits like

2119
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:10,160
he's a big dude and you know, 
he's really young. 

2120
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:16,440
So like if he if he gets draft 
capital and a team you know kind

2121
01:48:16,440 --> 01:48:19,360
of installs him, I I'm not 
betting against him at that 

2122
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,960
point. 
It's just he feels very binary 

2123
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:26,800
to me, like if the NF LS like 
no, we're not that into it, then

2124
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:29,920
he could just be nothing. 
Yeah. 

2125
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,720
All right, Pat, you are on the 
clock. 

2126
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,960
Second to last pick here. 
What's it gonna be for you? 

2127
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,840
This is tough. 
This is definitely tough. 

2128
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:47,960
There's a a few different 
directions pull up the old model

2129
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:48,720
here. 
I'm. 

2130
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:53,080
I'm actually legitimately torn 
on what to do because to me, 

2131
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:54,640
it's I. 
Have no idea after you. 

2132
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:57,080
There's not even like a. 
If you take this that I can do 

2133
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:58,960
this like I have no idea what to
do either. 

2134
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,800
I'm going to take. 
Far down the rankings I'm. 

2135
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:09,680
Going to take Jetavion Sanders, 
although I think he just had a 

2136
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:11,840
really bad Did he have a bad Pro
day? 

2137
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,200
Combine wasn't great. 
I think it was 40 was sort of 

2138
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:17,560
slow for what people were hoping
for. 

2139
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,880
Yeah. 
Yeah. 6/9 at 2:45. 

2140
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,800
No take backs. 
Take it back. 

2141
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:29,160
Can I take it back? 
You can let me, I want to take 

2142
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:35,960
it back and take quorum well. 
The record is going to show you 

2143
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,360
know what we're going to now 
come on, hang on. 

2144
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:40,160
Actually, Gretsch gets to 
decide. 

2145
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,040
He can have quorum. 
I don't want. 

2146
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:43,640
I don't want Blake fucking 
quorum. 

2147
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:51,000
The the the the athleticism on 
Sanders not coming in well is is

2148
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:55,200
enough where I I just want 
Quorum who is the opposite of 

2149
01:49:55,200 --> 01:50:01,120
Braylon Allen where he's just 
like gonna do stuff NFL coaches 

2150
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,760
like and he's probably gonna 
have enough draft capital he's 

2151
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:08,480
gonna get a role probably pretty
quickly He was he was coming off

2152
01:50:08,480 --> 01:50:12,160
an injury last year right. 
And so that that I think makes 

2153
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,360
his pretty uninspiring rushing 
production a little bit better. 

2154
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:23,320
But yeah, I mean he's he's kind 
of a he sort of profiles it as a

2155
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:27,640
undersized plotter. 
But I think he's versatile 

2156
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:31,360
enough that I forget now who 
said this but Devin Singletary 

2157
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:35,120
was was floated by someone as a 
comp and that's that's your 

2158
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:38,560
upside case. 
And you know, in a similar way 

2159
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:40,960
where Devin Singletary had no 
season, have you felt like you 

2160
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:44,000
ever really had a hit? 
But he just keeps putting fancy 

2161
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,720
points in your line up. 
I think that's kind of what 

2162
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:47,880
you're hoping to get here with, 
Blake Horn. 

2163
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,920
He had one of the better three 
cone times at the combine, so I 

2164
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:56,360
think you know the idea of him 
just being a plotter maybe isn't

2165
01:50:56,360 --> 01:51:00,520
completely accurate. 
The the other thing too about 

2166
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:04,040
these guys who are projected to 
get, you know, top five running 

2167
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:08,880
back capital, is whichever one 
of these lands the Chargers in 

2168
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,920
the Cowboys spot specifically. 
If it doesn't happen to be one 

2169
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:13,440
of the first couple of guys off 
the board. 

2170
01:51:13,440 --> 01:51:15,920
I mean we we, how many times 
have we seen this movie in 

2171
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,880
Dynasty drafts? 
They will be like the 110 or 111

2172
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:23,600
in drafts if you're the Cowboys 
or Chargers in Blake quorum. 

2173
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,280
Everyone loves connecting those 
dots. 

2174
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,880
But yeah, like Blake Quorum's 
going to go 10 picks earlier 

2175
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:29,200
than this if he goes to the 
Chargers. 

2176
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:32,200
It's important with quorum too 
is like he looks like a Potter, 

2177
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,760
but he had this knee injury 
where he like had a torn 

2178
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,080
meniscus or something heading 
into this year like his. 

2179
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,280
He was actually really efficient
before then where he went from 

2180
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,920
5.9 yards per carrier to 4.8 
three .35 yards at the contact 

2181
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,040
per attempt to 2.42 which is 
pretty brutal. 

2182
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,440
Like was flirting with 30% 
missed tackles force per attempt

2183
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:50,760
down to like 11.6%. 
So he still had production and 

2184
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,400
he had like I think he would set
the record for like most 

2185
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:53,560
touchdowns for Michigan or 
whatever. 

2186
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,480
But before that looks like he 
had some juice. 

2187
01:51:55,480 --> 01:51:58,040
That kind of comes down to his 
age and thinking that he can 

2188
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:00,240
rebound to that former form or 
not. 

2189
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:07,640
All right, Ben. 
Mr. Irrelevant. 

2190
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:12,160
I do like this comment from from
Cody that he wanted me to take 

2191
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:15,440
Sanders so we can give him the 
4th annual Jalen Weidermeyer 

2192
01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:20,440
Award. 
One of my initial loves. 

2193
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:22,480
Hey, but last year I redeemed 
myself. 

2194
01:52:22,480 --> 01:52:24,280
Sam Laporta with pick 23. 
You. 

2195
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:26,920
Sure. 
Did Pat, Pat. 

2196
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:29,480
What was the take on Marshawn 
Lloyd when we were watching this

2197
01:52:29,480 --> 01:52:33,000
film last week? 
He runs like he's panicked. 

2198
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,560
He runs. 
Like, yeah, the Isaiah Pacheco. 

2199
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:37,040
Like. 
It was Isaiah Pacheco. 

2200
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:38,720
I thought it was a favorable 
cop. 

2201
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:43,720
It was not a favorable cop. 
I'm gonna take. 

2202
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:50,120
I'll just. 
I think I'll just take Marshawn 

2203
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:51,360
Lloyd. 
I was going to take this Ben 

2204
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:54,520
Senat out of this other tight 
end is kind of kind of cool. 

2205
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:55,720
Yeah. 
Well. 

2206
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:57,600
You want to do it that has right
when I'm. 

2207
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:58,520
Typing it in. 
Take that. 

2208
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,280
No, because that has a risk of 
going like a sixth round pick 

2209
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:03,120
and being the wider mire. 
So I'll just take Marshawn 

2210
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:04,280
Lloyd. 
If it's safer. 

2211
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:07,600
I'll look back and be less less 
concerned about what I was 

2212
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,040
thinking. 
There you. 

2213
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:15,800
Go how about this to to close it
out on I I'm going to let the 

2214
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:21,160
chat have pick 25 and then and 
then it's done chat One final 

2215
01:53:21,480 --> 01:53:24,280
heated battle here. 
Who do you guys want? 

2216
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:28,880
I thought. 
I thought maybe you'd go Pierce 

2217
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:30,320
all there Ben. 
But I don't. 

2218
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,720
I don't know what his I'm. 
Saying McMillan do. 

2219
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,480
You like, do you? 
Do you have a preference between

2220
01:53:36,480 --> 01:53:39,440
the two Washington receivers 
after a doonsay between Polk and

2221
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:42,000
McMillan? 
I've said Polk a few times, 

2222
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:43,680
sticking into their numbers a 
little bit. 

2223
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:48,560
I think I've come to the 
conclusion that I I I actually, 

2224
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,080
I don't think either of them's 
gonna be particularly good at 

2225
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:54,600
the NFL level. 
I think, to be fair, I think 

2226
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:56,560
I've come to the conclusion that
if one of them hits in a big way

2227
01:53:56,560 --> 01:54:00,200
that it's gonna be McMillan. 
He's not good after the catch. 

2228
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:02,520
He's unreliable with hands, but 
he does run good routes. 

2229
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:05,360
He's athletic. 
I think he could be a guy who 

2230
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:08,160
just wins on on on getting open 
enough. 

2231
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,680
Polk is your more traditional 
outside big bodied good 

2232
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:12,960
receiver. 
I like him. 

2233
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,920
He's good at contest. 
It catches all that stuff. 

2234
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,600
But like you never earned 
targets at a good clip per 

2235
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,480
route. 
He's not going to be. 

2236
01:54:19,480 --> 01:54:22,280
I mean he's there's your Josh 
Palmer like you know profile 

2237
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:25,840
like at best probably if he gets
the opportunity that Palmer's 

2238
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,520
gone and ran enough routes, he's
probably not going to earn 

2239
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:32,400
enough targets. 
He's a stud, like with the ball 

2240
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,720
in his hands, he always makes 
big plays in big spots. 

2241
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:36,840
Like he's a fun dude to watch. 
But for fantasy like that 

2242
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:38,480
doesn't matter. 
You know, you got to be able to 

2243
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:41,240
like earn a lot of volume. 
And so anyway, I always really 

2244
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:42,920
loved Jalen Polk. 
He was a guy I always like, 

2245
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:45,200
loved cheering on and watching. 
He always made big plays. 

2246
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:46,760
He also disappeared for whole 
games. 

2247
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:49,360
Well, like we had this theory, 
'cause he's he's from Texas that

2248
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:53,680
he like can't catch in the rain 
that we played Oregon State this

2249
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:58,720
past year in the rain down in 
wherever Beaverton or whatever 

2250
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:00,280
the wherever the hell their 
school is. 

2251
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:04,560
And I I think he had no catches 
in like 3 drops in that game. 

2252
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,680
He was like really bad at that 
game. 

2253
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:09,800
So if he goes to some like 
Northern City, if he goes to 

2254
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:12,120
like the Browns or the Patriots 
or something where they play 

2255
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:15,360
outdoors, don't take Jalen Bull.
That's that's my one little 

2256
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:22,800
weird weird note. 
I this is the chat right now is 

2257
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:24,800
throwing a lot of shit against 
the wall. 

2258
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,080
But I am. 
I am honing this down to just a 

2259
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,240
2 horse race here. 
This is what it's going to be 

2260
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:34,520
for the final pick, Ricky 
Pearsall, which seems fairly, 

2261
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:38,440
you know, rational for Isaac 
Gruendo. 

2262
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:42,600
Isaac Gruendo is getting so much
love in the chat right now guys.

2263
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,520
He's fun. 
I almost He's the two that blew 

2264
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,000
up the combine. 
Right, He's fun. 

2265
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:53,240
He has the highest running back 
freak score of any running back 

2266
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:55,280
in our database. 
Wow. 

2267
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:01,240
How far back does that go? 
Oh man, I probably 2005. 

2268
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:04,280
So like 4. 
Years old. 

2269
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,200
Saquan Barkley, Only I. 
Was four years old. 

2270
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:16,320
The other aspect to Gorendo is 
everyone has blue balls on him 

2271
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,760
'cause you can't draft him in 
the big board, so there's extra 

2272
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:23,760
enthusiasm to be able to get 
Gorendo on his squad. 

2273
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:28,040
Are there other guys you all 
thought like, who else were you 

2274
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:30,800
considering with these last five
picks? 

2275
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:35,120
That Ben Sinat Tight end? 
Bucky Irving on my list? 

2276
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,040
People like that Audrey. 
I don't know. 

2277
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:37,840
How do you say his name? 
Audrey. 

2278
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:41,320
Guzman, Jersey boy. 
Yeah, couple of those dudes. 

2279
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:44,720
You guys that wrote up as like 
this Devante's Walker guy from 

2280
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:45,920
UNC. 
Quite a bit. 

2281
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:47,080
Yeah, he looks interesting. 
Yeah, Walker. 

2282
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:50,000
'S kind of interesting. 
He had a pretty good combine. 

2283
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,560
He was kind of deep thread at 
UNC. 

2284
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:56,480
I think the the kind of the 
major knock on him is that he 

2285
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,400
was a four year player who 
really didn't do much in his 

2286
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:03,680
first. 
Oh no, that's wrong. 

2287
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:05,600
I'm thinking of some. 
I'm thinking of somebody else. 

2288
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,160
Yeah, he is. 
He's he's kind of old, started 

2289
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,480
at Kent State and was crazy 
productive there before 

2290
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:14,400
transferring to North Carolina. 
Weird transfer issue. 

2291
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:16,960
He did. 
He wasn't. 

2292
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:19,760
It wasn't clear if he was going 
to play for North Carolina. 

2293
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,200
And so he wasn't even really 
like, I don't think he was even 

2294
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:25,880
practicing with the first team. 
He was practicing, but they were

2295
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:27,800
like, yes, this sucks. 
You're not going to have 

2296
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,320
eligibility And then they, he 
got eligibility like halfway 

2297
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:34,680
through the season. 
But his what I've heard is from 

2298
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:38,000
the film guys that his routes 
and stuff were a lot smoother 

2299
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:41,960
yet at Kent State and that he 
kind of was just, it was a 

2300
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:43,680
little bit like playground 
ballish. 

2301
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:45,720
He's a deep threat. 
He doesn't add much after the 

2302
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:50,640
catch at all but he can win deep
kind of outside just like down 

2303
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,360
the field guy. 
But yeah, he's a he's a tricky 

2304
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:56,840
eval because of all the the 
transfer stuff. 

2305
01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:59,960
Yeah. 
What's the deal with Bucky 

2306
01:57:59,960 --> 01:58:02,800
Irving? 
Back combine right? 

2307
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:07,000
Yeah, not super athletic, not 
that big. 

2308
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:10,040
Kind of like, he's not like an 
amazing receiver, but like, he's

2309
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:11,880
sort of in that receiving back 
mold. 

2310
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:15,400
I mean, I guess he. 
Caught 56 passes, right and. 

2311
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:17,480
Yeah, it wasn't super 
inefficient though. 

2312
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,840
Yeah, right, 1.39 yards per 
route run. 

2313
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,680
That's not bad. 
But you know, if that's like 

2314
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:25,720
your calling card, I'm not 
impressed. 

2315
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,040
But yeah, he's. 
I don't know. 

2316
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:33,040
Like he's kind of in this group 
of running backs who, like, 

2317
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:35,880
never does anything except he 
kind of resembles Kyron Williams

2318
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:51,000
well. 
Pete's muted he's. 

2319
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:54,040
Muted He's talking. 
We're having a good time just 

2320
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:59,960
sitting in childhood. 
What I was trying to say God, I 

2321
01:58:59,960 --> 01:59:02,440
was firing off some hot takes. 
There but I. 

2322
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:04,240
Guess they're all just in the 
show. 

2323
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,800
That was for the members. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2324
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:11,760
Rod Blair, thank you for joining
us for this new annual 

2325
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,600
tradition. 
We did miss JJ, but the chat 

2326
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:17,080
they did their best to fill in 
for his big shoes. 

2327
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:21,040
I would say Ron, what do you, 
what do you got going on these 

2328
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:22,240
days over on your YouTube 
channel? 

2329
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,960
Just draft stuff. 
Dynasty stuff. 

2330
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:27,360
It's all dynasty over there. 
I do. 

2331
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:30,480
I do stream like best ball 
content sometimes. 

2332
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:31,880
Really anything. 
Fantasy football's on the 

2333
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:32,800
channel. 
Ron Stewart. 

2334
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:37,080
It's just Ron Stewart on the 
YouTube And yeah I I'll drop 

2335
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:38,800
everything. 
Even March Madness the hop on a 

2336
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,320
podcast with Pete overs that in 
the in the gang over here. 

2337
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:43,840
So it's always fun hopping on 
here you guys. 

2338
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:45,040
You know you keep it light. 
It's fun. 

2339
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,480
We're joking around. 
It's not very it's not a chore 

2340
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:49,960
to be on here. 
Unless you're talking about bone

2341
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:51,360
Nicks. 
And then things get real. 

2342
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:52,320
Serious. 
Things get. 

2343
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:56,400
Steamy. 
Blair Rotaviz rookie guide out. 

2344
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:59,200
I've been enjoying that. 
What else can people look 

2345
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,960
forward to? 
Yeah, Rookie Guide is out. 

2346
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:05,600
We got the third one coming 
after the draft, so watch out 

2347
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:08,600
for that. 
I'm going to have probably some 

2348
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:14,720
fun wrong reads coming out over 
the next few days, so stay tuned

2349
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:17,400
for those. 
We got a lot of good work going 

2350
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:20,000
up on the site, some new writers
that are doing some awesome 

2351
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,720
work. 
So yeah, it's an exciting 

2352
02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:27,080
offseason for Rotaviz. 
Gretch, you just had a big post 

2353
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:32,560
breaking down the rookie wide 
receivers for stealing signal 

2354
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:34,920
Subs. 
Anything else on the horizon? 

2355
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:39,960
Going to talk through some of 
that with Sean on some some 

2356
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:43,680
recording tomorrow that will 
come out on the Stealing Bananas

2357
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,840
feed next week. 
I won't be writing or anything 

2358
02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:48,760
next week because I'm driving my
ass. 

2359
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:51,440
Well, my family to to 
Disneyland. 

2360
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:53,920
So yeah, I'm awesome. 
Oh yeah. 

2361
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:57,800
That's awesome. 
And yeah, we're going to have a 

2362
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:04,960
bit of a mishmash schedule 
coming up over the next few 

2363
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:07,560
weeks. 
Some episodes where Gretch will 

2364
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:10,440
be out, couple where Pat will be
out, and then we all will 

2365
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:15,360
reconvene for our annual round 
one NFL draft hang. 

2366
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:17,560
But yeah, we're still going to 
have shows for you guys over 

2367
02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:20,120
these next few weeks. 
We'll book some guests and 

2368
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:24,440
continue talking these rookies 
in advance of the draft. 

2369
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:30,800
Yeah, I've got my rookie stuff 
gonna be out before April 9th. 

2370
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:35,120
All of my will be on legendary 
upside. 

2371
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:39,360
Yeah, so I've got running backs,
wide receivers and tight ends 

2372
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:45,360
getting that all rolling out. 
Talking with Matthew Betts on 

2373
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:48,480
Monday, talking through some of 
the injury situations like Nick 

2374
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:52,920
Chubb, excited about that. 
And then, yeah, I'll be from the

2375
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:55,360
9th until the night of the 
draft. 

2376
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:59,040
I'll be out of out of the 
Commission, taking some time 

2377
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:03,440
off, but back from the draft. 
That'll be a glorious return for

2378
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:06,000
the draft party. 
I already can't wait. 

2379
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:09,960
Yeah, they'll have some big 
cadarius Tony energy. 

2380
02:02:10,720 --> 02:02:13,680
I'm sure. 
For me, I have another video out

2381
02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:15,200
on the Deposit Kingdom YouTube 
channel. 

2382
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:19,480
I went through all of the top 
pass catchers, the with underdog

2383
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:23,920
ADPS and dreamed up the best 
possible landing spots and then 

2384
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:27,880
tried to predict where their ADP
would end up if they hit that 

2385
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,240
dream landing spot. 
And it was kind of a informative

2386
02:02:30,240 --> 02:02:32,680
exercise for trying to actually 
figure out how much of the 

2387
02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:35,400
upside is already priced in to 
some of these guys, and who are 

2388
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:38,120
the ones where there actually 
could be even more meat on the 

2389
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:40,600
bone if they get an awesome 
landing spot. 

2390
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:42,720
So if you guys have been 
drafting, I think you'll enjoy 

2391
02:02:42,720 --> 02:02:45,440
that video over on the Deposit 
Kingdom YouTube channel. 

2392
02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:47,920
Otherwise, yeah, that's it for 
me. 

2393
02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:52,720
Very fun night chat. 
I will post your team on on X 

2394
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:55,280
and we can let you know the 
court of public opinion. 

2395
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:58,240
Decide who ultimately won this 
mock draft. 

2396
02:02:58,400 --> 02:03:01,000
We'll see you guys next time on 
Ship Chasing peace.