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Welcome everybody. 
You ATP chasing, you have NFL, 

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Combine results, discuss, 
Anthony Richardson, continues to

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Skyrocket off draft boards, and 
again, Sky more. 

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For some reason is rising for 
the third week in a row. 

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Welcome to ATP. 
Chasing Pat, fryer homo, I need 

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a hand job. 
Fix your side for Jamar. 

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Elbow play Chase. 
Hey, what's up? 

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How are we doing? 
To bring out the Richardson up 

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into the to the sixth round. 
That's right. 

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That's our that's our job here. 
Right Davis, literally why they 

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show exists? 
They show every year. 

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We got to pick a rookie. 
And also, you know, there's this

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thing going on in the fantasy 
space right now, where Anthony 

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Richardson is so beloved that 
you can't really have your brand

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Associated by him, just being by
being like, yeah, you know, I 

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like him at ADP. 
Like there's, there's a 

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hyperbole contest in which 
everyone has to compete to be 

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more breathless and in their 
Praise of Anthony Richardson. 

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And yeah, I mean look I ranked 
him. 

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I did my dynasty rankings this 
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I've got him pretty clearly as 
the 102 ahead of CJ, Stroud, and

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Bryce young. 
That's obviously a slightly 

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different conversation than ATP.
Chasing for the by. 

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I think, I actually can Sam and 
I were just talking before the 

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show. 
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Anthony Richardson. 
And that context, I'm still 

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probably relative to consensus a
little bearish on what he's 

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going to do for Fantasy this 
season, all jokes aside about 

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like the sixth round thing. 
And I don't think he could ever 

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get up to where we were drafting
Trey, Lance last year, just 

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because people are so bought 
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all those weapons. 
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scenarios where he could become 
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best Ball Mania three close. 
Therefore, I mean, what? 

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If he gets drafted by the 
Detroit Lions and the Detroit 

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Lions trade Jared goof to 
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he is a sixth-round pick it me. 
That's the that's the trail and 

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scenario, I think right there. 
But yeah, I mean, if you Lance, 

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what are the the non like? 
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Detroit and Seattle as Landing 
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sense like sitting a year behind
golf or Geno Smith, but I'm 

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trying to think of like the the 
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at quarterback right now where 
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It might be well Peters. 
High current rate up the 

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Falcons. 
Yeah, yeah, that's those are 

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good too. 
Well, the Colts could set their 

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for and probably just take him. 
The Colts, could probably not 

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trade at all. 
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there because I, well, it 
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what the eventual trade between 
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But i Houston's for sure. 

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Taking young or Stroud and I 
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going to sit and just take 
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I mean I'm not that some 
defensive player, we don't know.

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Yeah, well yeah well a will 
enter something. 

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Yeah. 
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probably not J Allen Carter 
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which sets up pretty good sets 
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although you sort of get the 
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that's going to take will leave 
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That's that that's the, the fly 
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the sense that the Colts are the
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us. 
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It is that you're saying under 
the scenario where both young 

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and Stroud are gone by 4:00. 
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Your say does not save like a 
Richard said guy for really easy

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really does. 
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Just he really doesn't, although
although this new the guy they 

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hired Shane, steichen, he seems 
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seems like I just spent two 
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Like let me get a more athletic 
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hurd's and just coach him up. 
Basically. 

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Yeah. 
For What it's worth, um, like 

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drowning the market and similar 
sites, and then Richardson has 

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jumped leave us grunting box has
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Now, with, leave us at at night 
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specifically potentially going 
with leave us but that that flip

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is pretty interesting, post 
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And yeah, I wonder again like, 
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from Richardson, is real verse 
like double counting. 

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Well, it's totally double 
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Yeah, but I get at the same time
like I think GM's are human too 

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and they See Richardson at the 
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goddamn like this guy's a freak 
like they might be gonna get to.

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It was the vert jump for me. 
It was that, I mean, the the 

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weight, the weight, and the 14, 
everything like I knew he was 

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going to be fast because I 
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But watching a man that size 
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generate that much velocity with
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I'm like, just not going to be 
able to stack this guy. 

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Like this guy is just not going 
to be stackable. 

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Well you know what else? 
I thought was dumb? 

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Like all the discourse. 
I was like, why do I care how 

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tall? 
How Hi, this guy can jump. 

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It's like we just watch Jalen 
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Like redefine, what QB sneaks 
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and strength you're telling me 
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at the goal line with 
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can jump out of the gym, 
wouldn't be a good skill to have

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when you're near the goal line, 
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seems like a pretty handy thing 
to. 

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I mean, do maybe the biggest 
play of the Super Bowl until the

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the hold had had that stupid 
Smith Schuster hold not 

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happened. 
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Bowl would have been jail It 
hurts double efforting through 

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for the two-point conversion 
where he was wrapped up three 

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yards away and was just like, 
I'm not going down and it's 

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like, yeah, Bryson's never doing
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You have to throw on that play, 
you know, CJ shroud even you 

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have to throw on that play. 
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I-it's he's going to be so good 
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be his first start, or whatever.
It's going to be a lot of 

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people. 
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faders, like he's going to go 
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there's gonna be a lot of people
who like, you, why would you 

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take this guy? 
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I always remember Lamar's first 
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what it was like the last two to
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which, for us, best ball Bros 
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we would be stoked on that. 
They did not let him throw. 

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He had a really high floor. 
He was putting up like 18 points

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a game. 
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even like 20 points, he had this
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rushing a lot. 
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And at that I do think that is 
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Where it's like, he's getting it
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clicking for him to throw and 
he's actually more of a high 

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floor than a high school. 
High ceiling guy that first 

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And and P, or even underselling.
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year. 
I was kind of digging into cops 

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Richardson, he averaged 21 
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I think it was a seven-game 
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started then the year he was at 
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So yeah, like you said it was 
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past. 
He was kind of ugly, but that 

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can get you to, you know, qb5 
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even if you don't have the 
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So, Yeah, that we can. 
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We might as well jump into the 
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about Richardson here. 
He is. 

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Once again one of the biggest 
risers of the week topped only 

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by Darnell Washington our guy 
here on on ship chasing so which

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is which is not I need to. 
I need to get ahead of this. 

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Darnell Washington is like a dog
to score. 50 fantasy points this

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year. 
He this dude this is this man is

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going to be one of the most 
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Pressive run blockers in the 
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this Donna, Washington 
available, put Donna, 

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Washington, the Q. 
This guy, you guys are going to 

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like him. 
This suit is massive. 

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Oh, shit. 
This dude is fucking bad. 

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I just had to make sure you were
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here when we first, I mean, he's
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great, I'm not, I'm not saying 
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him in Dynasty, he's dropped, 
like, he's gonna be a 

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first-round pick but like I 
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Meyer might catch each of them, 
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each than him, but is, it isn't 
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all of these rookies? 
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That's are not contributors, but
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on the field and whether there's
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role, they have the athleticism 
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I mean, I guess so. 
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about rookie tight ends is I 
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and this is I mean, I don't 
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exposed but I kind of like the 
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likely was like a good athlete 
but not like I think his wrath 

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was like seven and a half or 
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likely played at a smaller 
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their leading receiver. 
He just was so used to catching 

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passes and And his like I think 
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the Ravens and targets per 
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Like it was nut when he was on 
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what you don't want with your 
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become Eric. 
Tomlinson, you know, that's 

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that's not a good role. 
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So it's tight if in week 17 you 
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he's got a good role or he's on 
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Like maybe you could compared to
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this last year where he was 
blocking only but had Travis 

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Kelce suffered an injury like 
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been a really good week 17 guy 
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the most likely scenario is he's
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Being like the Donald parm type 
where we're forever chasing it 

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because we could see the Story 
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never pans out. 
And I think I've seen this take 

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floating around, I think I agree
with it, like, isn't the flyer 

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to take Sam laporta, isn't he 
the guy most likely to carve out

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a role by the end of the season 
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him? 
And he already has kind of the 

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tools to immediately contribute.
Both same deal. 

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He was, he was a leading 
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a small school but it's not 
like, I didn't you, bro. 

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Yeah. 
It's not a college football, 

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playoff school, you know, I 
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that's interesting at tight end 
And is, is I don't you're not 

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really being asked to pay a huge
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I mean he's two rounds cheaper. 
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where I'm like he he didn't do 
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he's banged up, I think. 
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Like like actually more 
competitive school and was he 

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wasn't their leading receiver. 
This year. 

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He was last year. 
Yeah, I think with this I tends 

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to like somewhat so much of it. 
I think for me. 

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I'll come down to two landing 
spot, right? 

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Like there's there's a ton of 
wide-open tight end depth charts

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and then I felt right now, like 
Dallas of Schultz leaves 

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Cincinnati. 
Hearse is a free agent, Gerald 

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adverts, a free agent for the 
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Like if one of those guys lands 
in one of those spots they're 

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going to shoot up or if we also 
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harvest season or they finally 
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roll with Farm your 74 Donald 
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It's either that or giving 
joshjpalmer 10 targets again, 

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which sounds awful. 
Hate it. 

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Um, all right, let's move. 
Let's move to Richardson last 

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thing on Richardson. 
So I think the popular comps for

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how his career could go. 
Our, it's Lamarr, it's Josh a 

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loud and it's Jalen hurd's. 
Those are, those are kind of the

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the one end and Cam Newton. 
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So and I said this to Sam before
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actually bad for fantasy for 
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good thrower at Wyoming. 
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back and look at it. 
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games they work, there was not 
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know, he can he can end up 
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of his rookie contract and still
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16 17, 18 fantasy points per 
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still the quarterback. 25 big 
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That was good enough for 
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arguing little bit more, but I 
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17 points per game, that's a 
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games, but I think it's just 
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risen at on, but it's still like
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contact. 
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pocket passers. 
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contest, right? 
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makes the 3Q be built with 
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It just feels like pure oxide. 
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and I can still survive 
Advanced. 

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I can win when we get to best 
Ball Mania. 

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If his ATP moves up, you were 
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to pair him with like, Holmes 
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build or before stew use them in
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going to really narrow for best 
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that came in with pretty 
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strong strong to medium is 
rushing profiles. 

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Some other guys I thought of 
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passing Prospect, but really 
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disastrous, there at 10 points 
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bunch of games, at least the 
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Trey, Lance Jordan. 
Love you could say, but those 

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guys are different for a variety
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to bring those those cops up in 
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what? 
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outcomes for his rookie year. 
What's this wedding? 

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Ring graphic here. 
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is a guy who was the biggest 
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Boomerang to the biggest Riser. 
So people BTF deed. 

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All right? 
Yeah, she's brown. 

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He was falling a bunch. 
I think there was just no buzz 

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about him, but he had a really 
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probably good guy worth talking 
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high relative Athletic score. 
I think there's a you know, 

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five-year guy. 
Strong producer has a senior. 

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I'm actually curious Davis on 
your take on him as a prospect 

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because, you know, curious, if 
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combine is something you're 
buying or if he's a guy, you're 

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not that interested in. 
No, I mean, this is like the 

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exact type of guy. 
I'm pretty interested in like he

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got better, every single year 
would make sense. 

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Makes sense why he was not An 
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got the play, he was right there
in the middle of that covid 

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stuff his early declare a year 
would have been 2020 so we never

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really got to start really did 
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then his final season was just a
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good team. 
Like, if this guy was a wide 

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receiver, you know, Cedric 
Tillman, like I've got real 

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concerns about Cedric, Tillman 
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school, when he Coulda left and 
add, probably cost himself some 

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money because High it, So much 
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season but for a running back I 
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I like running back to me is 
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It's like one. 
Are you are you a deuce van 

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Or it's like best-case scenario.

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You're getting like 12 touches a
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Or can you can you just be 
James? 

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Conner to what is your 
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Obviously, a huge Boon. 
I think when your athleticism 

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goes up and then three can, I 
squint and see something that an

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NFL team will love. 
Of about you because that's 

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that's really what we're looking
for. 

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Is like which one of these guys 
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going to put on the film and be 
like coat. 

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You got to, you got to take this
guy with a third round count 

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pick we need Chase Brown and he 
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a 44, like good enough for me. 
That makes sense. 

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And yeah, if you look at the 
ATP, verse consensus, consensus 

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big boards, she's proud 
according to NFL, mock draft 

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database, is ranked as the sixth
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In terms of consensus, big 
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the our be 16 in terms of rookie
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ATP to rise to the, you know, 
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combined results. 
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the 220 spot. 
Yeah. 

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Are there. 
Other groups of guys would you 

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talk about here a couple of 
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here as risers? 
That's obviously based on the 

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Derrick Karr news and I think 
even Chris a law, they wouldn't 

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be close to making the cut here.
If you know, we extended this to

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20 or 30 players instead of just
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Shaheed who's risen. 
Now for two weeks in a row and 

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jajuan Johnson are up here in 
terms of risers. 

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P curious. 
If you've been mixing in Saints 

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tax since the car news, and what
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Saints. 
Prices here. 

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Yeah, I haven't been going out 
of my way, it's funny. 

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I actually feel like Shaheed and
Johnson are available for me and

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drafts, but it does seem like 
car is always off the board. 

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Now a little bit earlier than 
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I'm not sure if the data back 
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anecdotally in my drafts. 
But I think it makes sense, 

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right? 
The market I think, is correct 

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to push she heat up, who could 
be the The Mac Holland's for 

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Derek Carr jajuan Johnson, who 
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Waller and maybe stay healthier 
and a lava being the Davante 

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Adams. 
So I certainly get the 

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enthusiasm or slightly more 
enthusiasm. 

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Now that it's not, you know, 
some taysom Hill and Andy Dalton

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hybrid at quarterback Yeah, 
we're still we're still taking 

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taste them though. 
We got give we talked about 

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another the taste of Jewish if 
he'd Stacks are the key to 

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winning BBM for any Pete, the 
the taste them thesis as done 

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nothing but improve right 
because Jamie no no it hasn't 

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improved because you had legit 
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taysom Hill getting the job that
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are not going to get benched. 
It seems like Jamis, it seems 

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like Sheamus is there 
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Like it just seems like that 
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fractured. 
Seems like Jamis might not be on

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the team which gives more room 
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But he was the he was the 
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tight end 6 like throwing like 
20 passes like the thesis 

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remains intact Yeah, I will note
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a little fun on his name. 
He's a free agent right now so 

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I'm not entirely sure why. 
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assuming comes back. 
The Saints is probably likely he

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comes back to the Saints. 
But guys, like her Skies like 

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Gerald Everett. 
They're falling because they 

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have uncertainty of whether 
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I think the market is just like 
assuming Johnson's on the Saints

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and that's pushing him up, but 
I'd be a little nervous about 

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that. 
On the few continues her eyes 

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higher because you could, but 
you could argue, You could 

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argue, it's bullish. 
If he gets like a two year, 12 

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million dollar deal, right? 
Like like the Hayden Hurst 

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contract, you know, like hating 
hers was useless for the Ravens 

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but then found a team that 
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ended up being way better for 
him. 

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I mean I think the markets doing
the same thing with Dalton 

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Schultz like Donald Shultz is 
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it's probably good for him to 
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whoever's going to sign it Miss 
going to want him. 

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Yeah that's fair, I think. 
Yeah, it definitely introduces 

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volatility. 
I was just interpreting in the 

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context of like the Saints atp's
are rising and I think Johnson 

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is getting caught up in that 
basket, but in that not actually

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on the Saints right now. 
So I just be a little, a little 

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careful, but I agree with your 
point. 

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There's definitely benefits 
Sports Mustangs. 

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This Jerome Ford. 
One is interesting because I 

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think the market is again, 
making another assumption that 

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during his Johnson is not going 
to be on the Cleveland. 

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Browns. 
But I would assume that if hunt 

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leaves, which is what, everyone 
sort of anticipating that 

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Terrence Johnson would be ahead 
of Ford for whatever, you know, 

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it because I think they can. 
I think they still have a 

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restricted ability on him, maybe
that's wrong but I would imagine

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that you're in a chanson would 
end up being ahead of Jerome for

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maybe, maybe it's not true. 
I think they like your own Ford 

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more in the passing game though.
It would be like dear Ernest 

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Johnson would be like the chub 
replacement and Ford would be 

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more like the Hunt. 
But because wasn't was it for. 

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It's like passing down, roll 
more entrenched last season, 

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when when he was getting in the 
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Well, I think he, I literally 
think he'd barely played. 

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I don't think it was. 
He even at? 

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I remember at the reason, I 
remember this is because I had 

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been drafting a shit ton of 
deer. 

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Just Johnson because we were all
hoping for like, the 241 were, 

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Kareem hunt would get like 
traded or something and then, 

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right, you get that and then it 
never panned out and then 

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dearness, like, never carved 
out, much of a role. 

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Well, I guess what would 
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that drove boards almost, for 
sure. 

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Going to be on the roster 
because he was their primary 

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kick returner last year, so that
that, which is sort of the 

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Isaiah Pacheco thesis from last 
year, which is that he's going 

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to make the game day roster? 
So, yeah, I mean, it's like 

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they're both, they're both 
pretty interesting just because 

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that's a really good backfield 
to be investing in and we don't 

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have any Clarity there, so 
probably they're both good 

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stabs. 
Yeah, I like the Ford pick. 

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I'd I'm glad this popped and in 
the chart because I had never 

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even thought to take him but it 
seems it seems pretty smart. 

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Give their special. 
I kidding. 

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There's some fun ones like this 
of like it would. 

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Because right now, you have the 
rookies and none of them. 

444
00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:36,700
They're all just like black 
boxes and we tell those 

445
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:39,000
ourselves, the most Rosie story,
same with all these free agent, 

446
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,900
guys. 
Like there are so many good 

447
00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:43,800
options right now that I think 
even more than ever like 

448
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,700
scrolling down past the guys 
that are Did in everyone is such

449
00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:50,200
a good strategy, like one that I
drafted the other day because I 

450
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,500
was like, on a Minnesota build 
and I took Ty Chandler. 

451
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:55,300
Late, just being like, some of 
these guys who aren't getting 

452
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:58,700
drafted that correlate with your
team that have some kind of like

453
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:01,900
Prospect profile that hints that
they could seize a good role. 

454
00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:04,700
And then plus you get, you know,
Madison potentially leaving who 

455
00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:07,900
knows the deal with Dalvin cook,
but just like a thought that it 

456
00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:10,900
is easy to click like are 
pierced wrongs, who are like 

457
00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:13,000
being drafted. 
Now, in every single draft at 

458
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,300
the end and just as the badge, 
Pro Se scroll, just a little A 

459
00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:19,200
bit further down. 
Well, that's the that's the 

460
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,900
semaj perine thesis from last 
year. 

461
00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:24,200
Like perine was was not drafted 
in every league. 

462
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,900
In fact, I think he was drafted 
quite a bit less than Chris 

463
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,500
Evans was yeah. 
And Chris Adams, like literally 

464
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:33,900
did not see the field and perine
was super valuable throughout 

465
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:38,000
the course of the Season. 
Yeah, I have like 30 percent 

466
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,600
Chris Evans. 
I don't know where that your 

467
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,200
worm got into my brain, but I 
was just classic lat. 

468
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,700
Yeah, you know, I know where it 
was. 

469
00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:48,800
Versus was a big Chris Evans 
Maxi. 

470
00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:55,200
We got bam Jefferson here, 
planting a flag on March 10th to

471
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,900
to out well, scores more fantasy
points that I would just be 

472
00:24:57,900 --> 00:24:59,800
isn't to to better than van 
Jeff. 

473
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,100
Yes, yes he is. 
I think, I think again, I'm not 

474
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,800
drafting a ton right now mental 
health. 

475
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,900
Like it's good. 
It's good to be doing this and 

476
00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:11,200
keeping track of stuff and 
knowing what atp's are. 

477
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:16,100
But I just know I get so burnt 
out by August and if I was just 

478
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,400
Doing five drafts a day right 
now. 

479
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,700
I would have nothing left to try
and get to, you know, .5 of a 

480
00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:28,200
crane in 2023 but 22 at well, 
right now I'm flag planning. 

481
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,400
Like I will have a ton if 
assuming he remains outside of 

482
00:25:31,408 --> 00:25:35,600
the top 150 picks. 
I'm going to be like, he's going

483
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,600
to be my taekwon Thornton, he's 
going to be my equivalent of 

484
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,300
Pete's taekwon Thornton. 
But the what I really want is 

485
00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:46,100
Pat's equivalent of taekwon 
Thornton, so you win the two. 

486
00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:48,800
Sighs without not just a vehicle
Lansky bucks. 

487
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800
Well, I mean, you know, it's 
kuklinski's glance keys still 

488
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,000
spend at some institutions, I 
think. 

489
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:58,900
Lee this is another interesting 
one here. 

490
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,800
Just based on the draft Capital 
like if he's gonna go in the top

491
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,500
10 maybe there's a little more 
uncertainty about that. 

492
00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:08,500
Now with Richardson flipping em 
but pick 200, I mean especially 

493
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:12,300
in these 20 round draft for 
you're normally going 3qb I was 

494
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:15,100
taking a decent amount of levels
just like it's so cheap were 

495
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:17,500
always wrong about which Each 
quarterbacks are actually good 

496
00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:19,200
and bad. 
And like, I don't know if he 

497
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,100
goes in the top 10, he's gonna 
start a bunch of games this 

498
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,300
year. 
I'm pretty confident in that 

499
00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:25,700
outside of a couple of weird 
Landing spots. 

500
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,700
So he's a guy that I'm okay with
it, that price. 

501
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:34,600
I mean, this is the dynasty 
rookie draft argument that that 

502
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,700
leads to you. 
And then up with Justin Herbert 

503
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:40,300
sometimes, you know, where or 
Daniel Jones some times, where 

504
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:44,000
the market basically looks at 
the market tracks draft Capital,

505
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,100
so closely until it's a guy, 
they don't. 

506
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:51,100
Until it's like a guy who's not 
sexy like will leave us and his 

507
00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:53,900
distribution of fantasy points. 
Should just be like the 

508
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,400
quarterback who gets picked 
fifth sometimes you know but no 

509
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,400
one no one likes him. 
I'm calling it right now. 

510
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:05,400
Next week, leave us has the 
boomerang after reads just like 

511
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,200
body bagged him on shift. 
Chase a god Wednesday. 

512
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,700
I think, I think we start to see
a stock drop a little bit. 

513
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,100
It gets the boomerang treatment.
Yeah. 

514
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:16,000
It's not a very good Prospect 
but neither is Daniel Jones. 

515
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,500
What do we think was 
contributing to his rise here? 

516
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:21,400
Because, again, it's like all 
the talk out, of the combine was

517
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,900
obviously Richardson, Stroud in 
the passing drills. 

518
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:26,700
Like, where is this steam coming
from on him? 

519
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,400
That's a good question. 
Was it like, how is this 

520
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,700
testing? 
It was good, but not like above 

521
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,800
expectation, right? 
I found was just like average 

522
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,000
for what P I would say. 
It's probably just quarterback, 

523
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:42,800
quarterbacks just pushing up, 
right? 

524
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,200
I would say I would say that's 
pretty much all it is is just 

525
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,600
the natural. 
So for Richardson's going early,

526
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,800
that means a team that would 
have taken Richardson is their 

527
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,600
third quarterback and the 20 
round draft, missed out on 

528
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,000
Richardson. 
So they have to get another 

529
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,600
third quarterback because they 
structured their team and such a

530
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,100
way to need three. 
Yeah, and and ended hooker and 

531
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:04,500
Becky were like useless, and are
not going to be not going to 

532
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,100
play it. 
Also, if there was any backdoor 

533
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:09,700
of them starting. 
That's like totally gone. 

534
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:12,700
I kind of by that and like how I
think a lot of people are 

535
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:15,300
approaching these drafts is just
like there's 20 rounds you might

536
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:18,300
as well get three quarterbacks 
unless you took like Josh Allen 

537
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:21,600
and you know Dak Prescott or 
something like that and then 

538
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,400
like there's a huge tear break 
at quarterback like after Levis.

539
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,500
I think like there's basically 
no one after him. 

540
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:31,900
That you can really project a 
scarf to start games next year. 

541
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:35,000
So I think it is that Davis 
works just like I want to get 

542
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,200
three quarterbacks, like there's
zero opportunity cost of pick 

543
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,200
198 at the other positions like 
just get me a quarterback, who's

544
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600
going to start games and you'd 
like that. 

545
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,300
That's going to make these guys 
grew up a little bit. 

546
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:49,000
I think yes. 
Yeah, I think that's correct. 

547
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,300
All right, at the risk of doing 
the, we're all trying to find 

548
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:55,400
the guy who did this. 
Why is Sky more continuing to 

549
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,200
go? 
And we don't we barely even talk

550
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,500
about him. 
Where is this coming from? 

551
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,700
It's basically that Hardman is 
gone and it's just it's like 

552
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,900
almost confirmed at this point 
that hardman's gone, there's 

553
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:08,100
been no Hardman might take a 
discount to stay in Kansas City 

554
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,900
tight, you know, it's just none 
of that like he's gone so you 

555
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:14,500
and and they even play. 
Like I just I'm not even 

556
00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:18,400
convinced Sky Moore's. 
Role is like directly correlated

557
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,000
doesn't exclude you. 
Yes, it does. 

558
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Juju matter more than Hardman. 
That's what I'm. 

559
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,600
That would be my thought. 
Yeah. 

560
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:29,300
I mean it's like I said, Both 
matter. 

561
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,800
Yeah. 
It's like it's like Hardman was 

562
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,500
Hardman. 
Also had the best targets per 

563
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,100
out run of his career. 
I believe, like they were 

564
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,200
finding ways to use him more 
because he was having such a 

565
00:29:39,208 --> 00:29:42,600
good season. 
And so I would say probably 

566
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,300
there. 
Well, shit, yeah. 

567
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:49,100
I don't know, I don't know what 
this is because mvs is on the 

568
00:29:49,108 --> 00:29:51,200
team and the S is not coming off
the field. 

569
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,500
I, what if you're, if you're 
wanting to be a sky more Bowl, 

570
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:58,300
what you would be saying is the 
Justin Watson stuff is done just

571
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:03,400
in And just just disappears and 
Sky Eats all of those snaps 

572
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:05,900
somehow, the probably, the 
problem with that. 

573
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:09,500
This is like, Justin. 
Watson was like a veteran 

574
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:12,300
minimum contract. 
So if someone like him can come 

575
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:16,100
in and immediately overtakes 
guy, like, that's what scares me

576
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,000
is. 
It's like, I don't think it 

577
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,300
takes much in terms of a slot 
wide receiver to have me. 

578
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:21,800
Worried about Skies playing 
time. 

579
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,500
Like, I don't know, Isaiah 
McKenzie. 

580
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:26,600
Get gets got from the bills and 
he goes to the Chiefs, like, he 

581
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,000
could overtake sky, like, I 
don't know, like I'm pretty 

582
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200
bearish on the Talon for sky 
right now, where I don't think 

583
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,700
it takes a ton for him to get 
pushed back in the pecking 

584
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:37,500
order. 
So, I mean, hey, no. 

585
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,100
Fair to be fair. 
He's got a really fucking cool 

586
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:43,300
name, right? 
Cut it, cut the bullshit. 

587
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:50,900
I do think that like the bull 
case is JuJu's not back. 

588
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:54,300
Then then we're going to see sky
for be at a top, 100 pick. 

589
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:58,500
Again, I can't do that. 
It feels if to me. 

590
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:00,500
To me. 
Honestly, after watching the 

591
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:04,900
homes, have the best season of 
his career and win MVP and win a

592
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:08,200
Super Bowl while getting 
absolutely nothing out of Smith 

593
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,800
Schuster in the second half of 
the Season. 

594
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:13,100
Absolutely nothing out of MBS, 
absolutely nothing out of Sky. 

595
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:17,500
It's like I think the thesis was
always like yeah. 

596
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:19,300
You know if you're in a Mahomes 
offense if you're just going to 

597
00:31:19,308 --> 00:31:23,200
be valuable for Fantasy but I 
literally it's like it's Tony 

598
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:26,400
and it's Kelsey and whoever they
decide to be the passing down 

599
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,800
back. 
Like those are the guys who I 

600
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,000
think are going to provide. 
Hide the excess value. 

601
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,400
I like that. 
I just don't think there are 

602
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,400
any, like, even if some Schuster
does get retained, I don't think

603
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,300
he seems like he's going to do. 
He'll just be pretty useless 

604
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:42,700
again. 
Probably I like that. 

605
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:46,500
And, you know, speaking of 
chiefs passing down backs, I 

606
00:31:46,508 --> 00:31:48,500
think this is an interesting one
to talk about. 

607
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:51,500
Now, we're not looking at the 
largest ADP fallers, a lot of 

608
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:53,700
similar names on the other seen 
before the the dusty Thai 

609
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:56,500
dancer. 
It's hidden Hearst property 

610
00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,400
injury news, although he did 
finally gets her Today, but it 

611
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,100
continues to kind of look. 
Bearish McKinnon is the one I 

612
00:32:02,108 --> 00:32:05,400
want to talk about, he's fallen,
I think for three weeks in a row

613
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,700
and I take on this, my saw is 
just it's I think people are 

614
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:11,400
forgetting what he did in the 
regular season. 

615
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,200
Obviously faded a bit in the 
playoffs, but he was a really 

616
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,300
good fantasy asset, particularly
invest ball down, the the 

617
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:20,500
regular season stretch last 
year. 

618
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:23,300
Obviously, you know, rescue 
doesn't come back to the Chiefs,

619
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:26,900
but my ticket at pick 185 
continuing to fall. 

620
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,500
I want some Jerick McKinnon, 
just on. 

621
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,900
On the chances, he's back in 
that same role as last year, 

622
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,100
Pete. 
What are you? 

623
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,600
What do you think about McKinnon
at that price? 

624
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,000
Yeah I'm with you. 
I had. 

625
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,100
Yeah, I had been one of the guys
who have been passing on him, 

626
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:42,800
but as he continues to drop, I 
do think I haven't been taking a

627
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,800
lot of Mahomes just because I 
haven't been taking a lot of 

628
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,500
early QB, but I do, I don't know
if I said this on another show 

629
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,400
but I think I would be feel much
more comfortable tacking the 

630
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,900
cannon on to my home Stacks just
knowing it's so directly 

631
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,300
correlated with him having that 
role and the Chiefs offense 

632
00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:00,000
rolling. 
Thing that I don't necessarily 

633
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,100
love him quite as much as, like,
a one-off. 

634
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:05,200
But yeah, as his price drops, I 
mean, there's not that much risk

635
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,500
with it. 
And we're not going to let Pat 

636
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:12,100
push this fucking CH take. 
Well, isn't it, isn't it? 

637
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,000
I mean, to me, it's a little bit
concerning that he was not 

638
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,500
really used in their playoff 
games. 

639
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:23,300
That that is that, that feels, 
that feels not great. 

640
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:26,000
That that actually sort of 
similar to what happened with 

641
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Damien Williams. 
If We want to put our brains 

642
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,800
there, that, that Damien 
Williams took on this outsized 

643
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,900
role in his first playoffs and 
McKinnon 11 carries against the 

644
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:38,300
Jaguars. 
For carries Against The Bangles 

645
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:42,100
for carries against the Eagles 
and and did get seven Targets in

646
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:44,700
the playoffs but was out 
targeted in the playoffs by 

647
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:48,700
Pacheco. 
But also Jerick McKinnon is 

648
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,900
about to turn 30 one and I just 
I mean you know that team let 

649
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,900
Darrell Williams look go. 
You Darryl Williams was so 

650
00:33:56,900 --> 00:34:00,200
useful for them. 
Good pass blocker, all that 

651
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,100
stuff, but when I just I don't 
know, it just doesn't feel like 

652
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:07,600
I think it's like He doesn't 
have to be the started going 

653
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,300
into the year. 
You don't even have to be like 

654
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,300
the second guy going into the 
year for this pic to be worth 

655
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,100
it, right? 
That's what I agree again. 

656
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,300
It is like he's a guy, they 
trust. 

657
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:19,300
I doubt, they're going to make a
big splashy like free agent 

658
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:21,300
running back signing. 
Like they don't need to do that.

659
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,400
Their cap situation, it's 
probably better spent on wide 

660
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,100
receiver or defense or a line. 
Like if McKinnon McKinnon's, not

661
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:30,400
going to cost them much, I think
he's more likely to be back than

662
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,500
not but it'll you look you look 
where he's going, he's going 

663
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:37,100
around. 
Around like super Fringe. 

664
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:40,800
Rookie pics like tank, Bigsby 
and Zach Evans and Kendra 

665
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,100
Miller. 
He's going like handcuff, 

666
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:46,199
running backs or free agent 
running backs, like Jalen Warren

667
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,000
were shot Penny. 
Like there just isn't a huge 

668
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,699
opportunity cost where he's 
going. 

669
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,800
What if Deuce Vaughn is the 
seventh round draft pick for the

670
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,500
Kansas City Chiefs? 
What if we can? 

671
00:34:55,500 --> 00:35:00,000
We can we willed? 
We willed Sky more to the Kansas

672
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400
City Chiefs. 
Can we use our powers for good? 

673
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,400
And will do spawned to be the 
passing down back for Kansas 

674
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,400
City? 
That would you guys like test it

675
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,600
in smaller than you right there?
Mister, he's literally, the 

676
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,700
smallest player in the history 
of the NFL combine. 

677
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Yeah. 
Pretty pretty nuts. 

678
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,100
But I just, I just, I don't 
know. 

679
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,300
He's, he's, he's, um, he's like 
that what was Doug? 

680
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:27,000
Doug Martin the Muscle Hamster, 
did he just says he's small, but

681
00:35:27,008 --> 00:35:31,500
he's absolutely rocked up. 
What if Robert wood signs with 

682
00:35:31,508 --> 00:35:34,500
the Kansas City Chiefs, though? 
That is that is something I 

683
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:36,200
don't even want to. 
I don't want to put At that out 

684
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,300
there. 
But it does feel like he could 

685
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:42,400
be, like, the Demarcus Robinson 
or whatever Woods is the one I 

686
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000
did want to bring that up 
because it's obviously 

687
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,800
disgusting. 
But I picked 226 like, okay. 

688
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,400
He looked dust last year but he 
was coming off an ACL tear. 

689
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:54,700
Like we have seen guys take two 
years to come back from that 

690
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:57,100
now. 
Like is he coming back to being 

691
00:35:57,100 --> 00:36:00,300
the old Robert Woods? 
Like definitely not, but he 

692
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:03,700
feels a little bit like the the 
Julio closing line value pick 

693
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:07,200
for last year. 
Wearing Gonna guess CL p on this

694
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,400
pick. 
It might not pay off but those 

695
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,800
those April Victory Laps on 
Robert Woods are gonna get a lot

696
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,600
of Engagement. 
Well you probably have multiple 

697
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,100
outs with Robert Woods because 
he's definitely signing for a 

698
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:22,300
good team but he's not. 
Robert Woods is not continuing 

699
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:26,400
his career to go catch passes 
from Jared Stidham in Las Vegas.

700
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,300
You know. 
It's like his Market is probably

701
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,400
bills Chiefs eagles-cowboys. 
Maybe, you know, some some team 

702
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,100
that has reasonable posts. 
Season aspirations, it does 

703
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,900
return a return to the Buffalo 
Bills for Robert Woods and then 

704
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:43,900
like doing what they've done 
with Jameson Crowder and Cole 

705
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:45,900
Beasley that almost seems too 
perfect. 

706
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:49,100
Yeah, that yeah, Adam thielen a 
Kansas City. 

707
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:54,100
We don't want him. 
That's so so this this comment 

708
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:58,200
is your hearts in the right 
place, but I actually think 

709
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,800
anyone Kansas City brings in. 
I think they kind of learn their

710
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,100
lesson. 
Would you would you actually, I 

711
00:37:02,107 --> 00:37:04,500
think anyone they bring in their
going to be like, can you still 

712
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,300
run a 44? 
If not, it's just you don't fit 

713
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:10,000
and what we're doing. 
We got we got two really good 

714
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,200
slow guys. 
In Noah gray and Travis Kelce 

715
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,800
who basically cannot move up the
field with a quickness and 

716
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,500
everyone else has got to be able
to book it. 

717
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,900
Where is stealin going? 
I know it's on this chart, but 

718
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:29,100
occasionally have pick 173. 
I don't know. 

719
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,000
I don't, I guess. 
I don't know. 

720
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:32,900
I'm not going to force you. 
Take him now and that's seems, 

721
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:38,800
I'll force it all sorts of tape 
of all forces saying, I'm feelin

722
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,600
gonna be a really good Advance 
rate player probably turns in 60

723
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,200
catches 800 yards, five 
touchdowns right? 

724
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,200
He does the Jamison Crowder. 
You're just you're absolutely 

725
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,600
drawing dead to be needing. 
Adam thielen in week 17. 

726
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,500
That's my that's my take. 
Adam thielen is like reverse 

727
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,300
what you want you have to hit 
like a for leg parlay. 

728
00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:01,100
It's like he goes to the perfect
landing spot. 

729
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:03,600
There's an injury in front of 
him, he like Taps into the 

730
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,200
Fountain of Youth and he has 
like a two touchdown game in 

731
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,800
week 16, like that's like what 
we have to do with deal it. 

732
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,900
God, that's good. 
Like when he's like fucking lie,

733
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,800
he probably needs to switch the 
slot now to write, like I don't 

734
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,300
think you can win on the outside
anymore so he's gotta evolved to

735
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:26,000
the Earth's Gerald role 
somewhere. 

736
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:28,800
Mmm. 
Yeah I mean if Adam thielen was 

737
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,800
tied, an eligible, sign me, I 
would be all over this. 

738
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Do diffuse time. 
Ineligible? 

739
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:38,500
Yeah, I mean if say some side 
ineligible I don't see why not 

740
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,000
this this Brock. 
Tatp. 

741
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,300
I don't have any takes on. 
Hearst McIntosh is a mere, white

742
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:50,600
or McBride, really, but pretty 
now, that I guarantee when we do

743
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,900
this next week, we're going to 
have, we're gonna have the 

744
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:56,100
boomerang probably on Purdy 
because of the news that he had 

745
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,700
successful surgery literally 
today. 

746
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:04,100
And he is expected to be 
basically cleared by week one, 

747
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,300
which was kind of not. 
We talked about pretty last 

748
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:08,400
week, that was not the 
conversation, it was kind of the

749
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,700
opposite. 
Yeah, I agree. 

750
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:17,300
I think it'll swing back around.
I mean it feels like a Pete. 

751
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:21,000
I think I heard you talk about 
this in a podcast like to me I'm

752
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,500
kind of not that interested in 
Lance or Purdy unless I'm 

753
00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:25,700
stacking. 
And then I think if you're 

754
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:29,400
stacking like it's totally fine 
to take either, I know you 

755
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,800
talked about how like, if you 
miss out on Lance, you'll Tak 

756
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,900
Purdy onto your a, you Kirk, 
it'll teams and I think that's 

757
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:37,000
totally fine. 
Like, I think it's a very 

758
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,800
unpredictable situation like the
injury, there's a ton of 

759
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Uncertainty about that Lance, we
have no idea how good he is, if 

760
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,400
he's going to hold on to that 
job. 

761
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,300
Like, it feels to me like I 
think, you know, San Francisco, 

762
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:50,900
Super Bowl, odds are still like 
the fourth highest in that. 

763
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:53,500
I fell still like the market 
believes that San Francisco is 

764
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:56,000
going to be good. 
Somehow it's just like, I don't 

765
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,300
know if it's with pretty or with
Lance, so like I'm fine with 

766
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:03,100
stacking. 
I'm stuff out of stacking either

767
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:06,600
of those guys but I'm probably 
not taking that much on Stacks. 

768
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,400
Yeah, especially like if you 
think about, Like Brock Purdy's 

769
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,000
ceiling, you know, like how 
often is Brock pretty getting to

770
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,700
30 points in a game? 
And he's going to be your qb3 in

771
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:21,100
these big board builds. 
So how many times has he 

772
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:24,600
displacing your top two 
quarterback scores in a really 

773
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,800
important week? 
It just, it definitely seems 

774
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,400
like a tougher needle to thread,
but he's also extremely cheap. 

775
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,200
So, yeah, he did have that, you 
know against Seattle in the 

776
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,300
playoffs. 
He did put me in first place, 

777
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:40,500
very briefly in the FF, FF PC 
play on challenge with I think 

778
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:44,600
he had like 35, 40 point games, 
despite yeah, I got Equity was 

779
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,700
high, he did because because P 
told me, he told me I shouldn't 

780
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:53,700
be taking Mahomes pretty teams 
and the The Mitten returns or 

781
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:55,900
whatever. 
And then how'd that work out for

782
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:57,400
you? 
I could. 

783
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,200
I got him. 
I got him a Holmes, pretty team 

784
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,700
to the final. 
I don't want to bring up the the

785
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:07,900
pretty playoff stuff for PETA. 
Now, that's a really answer your

786
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:10,300
a sore subject here. 
What about? 

787
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:14,400
So we we mentioned Robert Woods.
We got some other Dusty vets on 

788
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,000
here, Zach, ertz, Hayden Hurst. 
And then some rookies, what 

789
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,200
else? 
Jumps out to you guys on the 

790
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,100
fallers. 
Zamir white, I guess, because I 

791
00:41:24,107 --> 00:41:28,100
guess the market is maybe saying
like he's maybe not even for 

792
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,100
sure. 
The Handcuff Jacobs is on the 

793
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,600
franchise tag or whatever. 
Like there was some chance that 

794
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,000
Samir white was the starting 
running back for like a tanking 

795
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,800
Raiders team next year or 
whatever. 

796
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:41,100
I don't know. 
We'll see. 

797
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:45,000
They'll probably. 
Yeah, the Shocker one jumps out 

798
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,400
to me. 
I actually, I'll use this to 

799
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,300
jump into the the rookies. 
We're not looking at rookie. 

800
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,800
ADP verse, the NFL mock draft 
database, consensus, Big Board. 

801
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,300
Sean Tucker was one that was 
popping for a while. 

802
00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:00,000
It's just like his ATP on 
Underdog made. 

803
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,400
No sense when you compared it to
like how consensus big boards 

804
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,400
ranking. 
These guys like he's at pick 140

805
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,600
but he's only viewed as like the
RV 12 to 15 in this class like 

806
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,400
behind guys like Chase Brown, 
Kenny Macintosh, that Kevin's 

807
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:17,600
that are going much later and 
Underdog draft. 

808
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,700
So I never was taking him up 
there. 

809
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:22,500
I guess I'm not like huge Into 
the dynasty Community to know 

810
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:26,000
exactly why he had so much buzz 
on Underdog initially. 

811
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,200
But I think it was just a bad 
ATP. 

812
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,600
That's, that's going to correct 
over the next couple weeks. 

813
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,900
Like, I think it will continue 
to fall, but I don't claim to 

814
00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:37,800
know much about an individually,
just sort of room macro lens. 

815
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,800
They DP didn't make sense to me.
Yeah, I mean, he's probably 

816
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,500
going to be a day three pick so 
that I think you're probably 

817
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,400
right. 
It feels good to see a chain 

818
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:50,800
where he's going because he's a 
guy just continue to select over

819
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,500
and over. 
I've been surprised after his 

820
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:54,600
combine that people aren't 
chasing him up more. 

821
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,300
I thought for sure I would have 
been priced out of him and he 

822
00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:58,300
just like Falls in most of my 
drafts. 

823
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:02,400
Well people thought he was going
to run like a four to five, so 

824
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,500
his combine was actually viewed 
as like slightly disappointing. 

825
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,400
Don't you see? 
I need it. 

826
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,100
Which is crazy too. 
Because when you're thinking 

827
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:13,300
about like the functional use 
of, like speed at those levels, 

828
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:15,400
like, I mean, what's her, what 
was it? 

829
00:43:15,408 --> 00:43:20,800
He 43 like, yeah, 44-34, I think
it's like, do we really think 

830
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,000
that's impacting what he's able 
to do on the football field 

831
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,600
versus if he was 429? 
You never know Peter. 

832
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,800
Yeah, I mean plus like the I saw
I'm not remember to show this, 

833
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,300
but someone like extrapolated, 
his, his track times to like, is

834
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:37,800
40 times, I think he's had 
recorded times that like, real 

835
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,300
events that are faster than his 
40 time was, if that makes 

836
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:42,800
sense. 
Like, it's kind of known that 

837
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,900
like he could be, you know, 
maybe 49, maybe for whatever 

838
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:48,600
reason, that day, he was just 
slightly slower. 

839
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,500
So I don't think the speed is 
concerned with them, but again, 

840
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:56,100
to your point Davis of like and 
I felt an NFL Team just needing 

841
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:58,500
to see like one trait and the 
running back to fall in love 

842
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,300
with them. 
On day two like a chant. 

843
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:03,400
Has that right? 
Like I feel yes. 

844
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,100
Pretty good. 
Exactly Capital compared to like

845
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:09,100
you see a huge tear break here 
from a chain to like the next 

846
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:14,300
cluster of guys like there's so 
much uncertainty you know after 

847
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:17,300
him and charbonnet I think those
were the last to all the people 

848
00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:20,100
taking care of and they are so 
going to have turned on him by 

849
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:22,000
like week 7. 
They're going to be like this. 

850
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,500
This Brian Robinson asked Plata 
guy They're gonna be just 

851
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:29,500
everyone's like oh the draft 
Capital, his highlights look 

852
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:34,700
cool because the UCLA uniforms 
are so I pleasing and you know, 

853
00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:37,700
it's going to be it's going to 
be weak for he's in a backfield 

854
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:41,600
split with Rashad white and just
generating nothing and people 

855
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,300
are going to turn on him so 
hard. 

856
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,000
Yeah, he's kind of the guy who 
does, you know, everything, 

857
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,600
okay, but but nothing great, 
right? 

858
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,600
Exactly. 
Yeah. 

859
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,000
Got the guy, I keep the guy I 
keep coming back to is Rashon 

860
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Johnson where some team is just 
for sure. 

861
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,400
Drafting him to be The Bodyguard
of whoever their Young 

862
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,600
quarterback is. 
And I just that, it's like a 

863
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,300
really, it's a really valuable 
role in my opinion. 

864
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:14,900
And people are just stoked on 
this kendre Miller, a guy who is

865
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:17,700
good in college, but I've seen 
our buddy. 

866
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:21,000
Dalton Cates was was launching. 
Some takes about him being like,

867
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,900
a really like a huge value in 
Dynasty drafts, which is 

868
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:28,200
interesting, interesting. 
He did not test at the combine. 

869
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,600
Is that right? 
I believe that is accurate. 

870
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,800
Yeah. 
Okay. 

871
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,400
Because I haven't seen any Buzz 
about him. 

872
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,500
Yeah, I know. 
Roshan, Roshan. 

873
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:41,800
I saw that like, his 40 time. 
I think some people thought he 

874
00:45:41,808 --> 00:45:44,500
maybe was going to be like a 
freak athlete, he wasn't quite 

875
00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:48,100
that, but for his size, his 40 
time was still good. 

876
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,300
And also, I think his 10-yard 
split, it was like 153 or 154, 

877
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:55,800
something like that, which is 
quite good compared to the 

878
00:45:55,808 --> 00:45:58,400
class, especially at his size. 
And I think some people even say

879
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,700
that the tenure of split it is 
like more predictive than the 40

880
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,000
yard dash for running back. 
So I thought that was 

881
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,700
interesting that his split 
centered. 

882
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:11,300
Split was still really high, is 
your guys's, would your take be 

883
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:18,200
like this cluster up here, you 
know, after a chain and 

884
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,000
basically to just be sprinkling 
these guys in with a slight lean

885
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,900
toward the guys above the trend 
line just knowing and to your 

886
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:29,000
point Davis like a guy like 
charbonnet like is probably much

887
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,900
closer to these Guys, an 
opportunity and talent and roll 

888
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:35,600
than he is to Gibbs. 
Yes. 

889
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,700
Yeah, I think it's talked about 
that with Korean on Monday. 

890
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:41,700
It's like be Johnson, is here of
his own Gibbs, isn't a tear of 

891
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:45,100
his own, pretty big gap. 
And then honestly, I think sharp

892
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:46,400
and he's probably gonna tear of 
his own. 

893
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,700
And honestly, I think you could 
argue even our good friend Devin

894
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:56,400
option, A is also in a tear of 
his own then with a big grouping

895
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,300
after that, and obviously a 
little, this will even out a 

896
00:47:01,300 --> 00:47:03,800
little bit after the NFL draft 
and we know where these guys are

897
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,800
going and how the NFL Fell views
them. 

898
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:09,100
But, but like the way, the way 
Sam has this graph plotted out, 

899
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:12,200
looks about right to me, where 
it's kind of its kind of throw 

900
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,000
your hands up and say, you know,
I'm and one thing we do know, 

901
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,400
that's I guess important to 
point out is that like a minimum

902
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,500
of four of these guys are going 
to be fantasy relevant. 

903
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:26,100
You know, we're going to have a 
Tyler allergy or who like no 

904
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:28,800
one's really in love with who 
just shows up and it's like, 

905
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,400
super useful in half PPR 
scoring. 

906
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:36,200
Yeah, I think it'll be really 
important to map out the landing

907
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,400
spots and I don't fully have my 
mind wrapped around that yet but

908
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,100
like, you know, if the Dolphins,
take a guy in round five and, 

909
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:46,100
you know, don't re-sign most 
certainly up, Jeff Wilson back 

910
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:48,100
or something like that. 
Like, that's going to be a guy 

911
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,100
people Target. 
Like you, I think like thinking 

912
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:53,500
through all of those depth chart
outcomes is going to be really 

913
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:56,600
important for that sort of, 
cluster of, you know, Ken, a 

914
00:47:56,607 --> 00:48:01,700
Macintosh to keep Kendra Miller 
that whole cluster there, it'll 

915
00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:03,200
be interesting. 
To see how it shakes out. 

916
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,700
I do want to get one guy that 
popped in the risers as we moved

917
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:09,100
wide receiver. 
Here was Marvin Mims. 

918
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:12,600
I think he was the third biggest
Riser after Anthony Richardson. 

919
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:16,700
He had a really strong combine, 
but Davis your deeper on the 

920
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:19,300
prospect stuff. 
Then when both of us are what is

921
00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:22,200
your take on on him as a 
prospect and and he is, he the 

922
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,600
guy sort of like after Downs 
flowers are high at argon? 

923
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,700
Is he like this? 
I think he's be targeting, I 

924
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:30,400
think he's better than Josh 
Downs. 

925
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,600
I think, I think his chances of 
Being. 

926
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:38,100
So he was, he was like a big 
speed guy at Oklahoma. 

927
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:42,000
I mean, bounces really small 
towns like 173 pounds. 

928
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:47,600
Mims has to, but memes is even 
faster mems was a higher tier of

929
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,500
recruit right? 
Oklahoma versus University of 

930
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:53,800
North Carolina. 
Nims is younger. 

931
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,100
Mims is an early declare Mims 
was a freshman break out like 

932
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:04,100
like he like he's And, you know,
he, you know, I mean, obviously 

933
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,800
it's lazy to do this but like 
it's not. 

934
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,400
So, it would not be surprising 
if his sort of NFL usage, kind 

935
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,400
of mimics, his former college 
teammate Marquis Brown. 

936
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,200
That would, that would sort of 
be the Hope, basically, and I 

937
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,500
kind of see it. 
She should like looking at this 

938
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,400
chart like he should be going 
ahead of not ahead of Keyshawn 

939
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,300
booty at this point, right? 
Like draft definitely, no, no 

940
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:27,100
booty. 
He's done. 

941
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,100
He's done stuck. 
He he he so he hid the, the 

942
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:36,600
parley of character, concerns 
injury, senior year, under 

943
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,900
performance and shitty combine 
its II like. 

944
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:42,500
I think, I think he could have 
showed up to the combine and 

945
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:44,900
made himself a first-round pick.
I wouldn't be surprised if he 

946
00:49:44,908 --> 00:49:48,900
goes day 3 now. 
Yeah, and he doesn't even have 

947
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:51,900
like the injury excuse that we 
saw for guys. 

948
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:56,300
Like, you know why my black in 
the Steelers wide receiver 

949
00:49:56,300 --> 00:50:00,100
George Pickens picking obviously
had the excuse last year with 

950
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:01,800
injury. 
Like he doesn't have any of 

951
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,700
that, maybe some off-the-field 
stuff, but it really seems 

952
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,900
pretty pretty bad for him at 
this point. 

953
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,300
That was, that was the hope. 
The Hope was that booty would be

954
00:50:10,300 --> 00:50:13,300
like, because he was like a 
five-star recruit went to LSU 

955
00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:14,800
yada. 
Yada The Hope was that? 

956
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,500
What happened for Pickens? 
What happened for him? 

957
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:20,500
Which has Combine, you know did 
a good job in the interviews and

958
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:23,700
every it just does not sound 
like that's happening for for 

959
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:27,500
him. 
I think the guys that I would 

960
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:33,300
push up the most would be 
Tillman Hutchinson and and Mims.

961
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:38,100
Probably And would you guys 
agree like looking at this 

962
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:39,800
cluster similar to the running 
back cluster? 

963
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,200
I mean, it's just it's so much 
easier for me to select these 

964
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,800
random running back Flyers than 
it is. 

965
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,500
These rookie wide receiver 
Flyers because at least we're 

966
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:50,900
talking about memes, he has the 
traits in the speed to get on 

967
00:50:50,908 --> 00:50:53,900
the field and be a spike week 
guy like when it matters the 

968
00:50:53,908 --> 00:50:57,200
most but some of these guys like
the path just seems so much 

969
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,300
harder especially with where 
their draft capital is going to 

970
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:03,600
be and even like if some of 
these guys get the sort of 

971
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,600
taekwon Thornton unexpected, 
Bound to pick. 

972
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,400
Like they're not going to rise 
that much like, you know, tae 

973
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,600
kwon Thornton I think was picked
200 last year, right? 

974
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,600
Obviously, terrible situation to
England. 

975
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,600
So that contributed to it but 
like, but my point being is 

976
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,500
like, even if one of these guys 
gets unexpected draft Capital, 

977
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,000
the markets not going to be that
excited about them. 

978
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,400
So I'm not like worried about 
taking them now. 

979
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,200
Like I'll take them when they 
arise 20 or 30 pics, but I don't

980
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,900
want to take a bunch of Xavier 
Hutchinson or something and 

981
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,800
haven't turned out that he's, 
you know, Like the Seth Williams

982
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,500
of a couple of years ago or some
of these guys that just yeah 

983
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:41,400
fall off the face of the Earth. 
Yeah. 

984
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:43,900
Yeah. 
That that is sort of like the 

985
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:46,500
the general risk to be run. 
Yeah. 

986
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:55,300
Yeah, let's move on to the 
stacks here. 

987
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:59,800
So now we're looking at average 
double stack ATP. 

988
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,200
So this is taking the 
quarterbacks ATP averaged with 

989
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,100
their top to pass catchers, 
which can be either running back

990
00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:12,200
or sorry either type and or wide
receiver for pass catchers. 

991
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:16,000
I also added in here, the odds 
to win the Super Bowl in this 

992
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,000
chart is just like a rough proxy
of how good to be think the 

993
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,300
offense is going to be, you 
know, obviously that's not a 

994
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:24,300
one-to-one correlation. 
But generally you see teams with

995
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:26,500
high odds of winning, the Super 
Bowl on the left of the shark 

996
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,000
teams with low, odds, on the far
right-hand side of the chart, 

997
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,100
the team that I think is most 
interesting and we've touched on

998
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:35,300
before is the Jets. 
If you look at the Double Stack 

999
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:38,900
ATP, they're like one of the six
or seven. 

1000
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:42,500
Cheapest teams now that doesn't 
factor in Rogers. 

1001
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:45,600
If Rogers were to be factored 
into that, that be a little bit 

1002
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,700
more expensive but still pretty.
With this news that the Rogers 

1003
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:53,800
deal is sort of coming together 
a little bit in New York. 

1004
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:57,600
Do you think they should be a 
lot higher and I saw through 

1005
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,700
that dup have you been doing 
some Rogers jet stuff and these 

1006
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,500
drafts? 
I did a little bit I'm not like 

1007
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:10,200
going out of my way to do it. 
Necessarily also we should 

1008
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,700
mention that are the pre evident
owner Source around these places

1009
00:53:13,700 --> 00:53:16,100
crack rock has even kind of 
walked back. 

1010
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:17,600
You know, he said it's 
happening. 

1011
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,600
It's it does deal Roger to the 
Jets of the. 

1012
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,200
He goes there's a fly in the 
ointment and that is Davante, 

1013
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,000
Adams relationship with Aaron 
Rodgers and now the Raiders 

1014
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,400
making a push here. 
So which is what we all thought 

1015
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,200
all along, right. 
The conventional wisdom was 

1016
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,100
Adams was gonna be a pretty, 
pretty big draw for Rodger. 

1017
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:34,800
So, I don't know. 
I think it's one of those things

1018
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,300
that I know, it's like a cop-out
to say, as a tiebreaker, like, 

1019
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:39,300
if you're deciding between two 
quarterbacks, you have Garrett 

1020
00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:41,300
Wilson, like Aaron Rodgers in 
that range. 

1021
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:44,200
Obviously makes sense, but I 
think it's a little silly to be 

1022
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,800
like going out of your way to 
try to guess these free agents. 

1023
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:51,600
Yeah. 
I mean that that that seems 

1024
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,100
about right especially because 
like, you know, there's there's 

1025
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:58,500
sort of this weird element of 
like there's going to be. 

1026
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,600
I feel like if somehow best Ball
Mania for was open now and we 

1027
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,300
were drafting these teams Now 
versus what would be Drafting 

1028
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:09,700
and six months, then I'd be 
like, yeah. 

1029
00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:13,100
So much more likely that I have 
like this really unique Aaron 

1030
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:17,500
Rodgers, Garrett Wilson, you 
know, CJ use Ama. 

1031
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,200
Whatever, you know, Tyler 
Johnson stack but because fit 

1032
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,200
because it's going to be in such
a compressed time form and 

1033
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,900
because the total number of 
teams are lower, I think the 

1034
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:30,800
uniqueness matters a little bit 
less to. 

1035
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:34,300
So again, I'm not saying I'm not
saying not to do it but it 

1036
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:35,300
wouldn't be something. 
I'd be. 

1037
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:38,300
Like, every time I take Garrett 
Wilson, I'm putting the star on 

1038
00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:42,700
are Rogers. 
The thing that's tough to you is

1039
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:46,600
like it feels to me that Garrett
Wilson's price is already like 

1040
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:51,900
baking in Rogers being there 
like he is right up there and 

1041
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:53,900
then in the second round and I 
know there's people who are 

1042
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:57,300
Super Bowl champs him, he had an
amazing rookie year. 

1043
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,900
But to me like it's tough to see
him going that much higher. 

1044
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:07,200
Even when Rogers, even if Rogers
does go there say what are we 

1045
00:55:07,207 --> 00:55:09,700
going to be take Garrett Wilson 
in the first round, you know, 

1046
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:11,900
like, probably Around here, 
maybe. 

1047
00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:16,200
But in most dangerous know. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1048
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:19,700
And again, and also, like, go 
ahead, Pete. 

1049
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,500
I was just gonna say, if Rogers 
doesn't go to the Jets, who do 

1050
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:24,700
you guys think? 
Is the most likely quarterback 

1051
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:28,300
to be there week one starter 
Zach Wilson. 

1052
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,000
That's the thing with the Wilson
ATP. 

1053
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,900
Like I don't want to be the anti
Wilson guy, but it's not, it's 

1054
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:39,500
not accurately. 
Capturing the downside risk of 

1055
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:43,200
Wilson being back and starting 
or just like, you know, your 

1056
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,400
Jacoby Brissette like you know, 
Jared Stidham, whatever like 

1057
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,100
the, you know, run-of-the-mill 
free agent quarterback. 

1058
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:53,100
Signing is if Rogers doesn't go 
there, I don't think it's 

1059
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:57,000
factoring the downside enough at
the end of the second round. 

1060
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,200
So I'm a little hesitant on 
taking him. 

1061
00:55:59,300 --> 00:56:01,200
Just because of that like I 
think I'll still get him at the 

1062
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,200
same price even if Rogers goes 
there but I think he does fall. 

1063
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,800
Like maybe a full round, at 
least a half around if it's a 

1064
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,500
bad situation there. 
If we know Zach Wilson is still 

1065
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:14,500
on the roster and they don't 
have a veteran solution which I 

1066
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:17,800
like, I don't know, feel it 
would feel crazy for them to do 

1067
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,700
that. 
Given how good they were like at

1068
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:23,100
every other position the 
quarterback last year, but 

1069
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:25,400
there's got to be some chance 
that that's what they do. 

1070
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,600
And and removing that chance 
entirely makes Also, the 

1071
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,700
different pic. 
Yeah. 

1072
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:39,600
Yeah, I agree. 
Other teams that that stand out 

1073
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,700
here, I think the Giants are 
super cheap. 

1074
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,700
I think, you know, they're 
likely to add a free agent, 

1075
00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:51,300
water Seaver, or maybe someone 
in the giraffe. 

1076
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:54,700
So I think it's a little bit 
tough to like project Hodgins 

1077
00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:57,600
and Slayton and Bellinger as 
like the top, pass catchers now 

1078
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,900
because I think a lot will 
change in their passing room but

1079
00:57:01,700 --> 00:57:05,600
if Those are the top guys. 
I think that like, you know, you

1080
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,500
can always back door, a Daniel 
Jones, giant stack that I think 

1081
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:11,600
I was pretty solid weekly upside
given Jones's rushing. 

1082
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,100
And, you know, you can always 
connect on a deep ball to 

1083
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,200
Slayton or random touchdown to 
Ballinger. 

1084
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,000
So I like that one. 
If you're sort of feeling boxed 

1085
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,000
out of stacks later and drafts, 
anything else standing out to 

1086
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,400
you guys here, as a teams that 
are either too cheaper, too 

1087
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,500
expensive for these double 
stacks. 

1088
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:32,300
I mean the Giants one does stand
out to me, I've been surprised 

1089
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:34,400
with now that we have so much 
Clarity, they're getting the 

1090
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,900
band back together with Daniel 
Jones and Berkeley, like the 

1091
00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:40,800
fact that Slayton and Hodgins 
and Richie James are also cheap 

1092
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,100
and we're all really good at 
different points in the playoffs

1093
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:46,600
and down the stretch last year. 
I really am a little confused 

1094
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:52,100
about that ATP. 
I mean Dallas, I guess so like 

1095
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:56,100
theoretically Dallas looks a 
little bit low, but then you 

1096
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:59,900
realize that it's, like, 
McCarthy and Brian 

1097
00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:03,400
Schottenheimer in charge. 
So, it's like sure. 

1098
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,500
Yeah, Dak and CD, and, and 
gallop, and these guys had 

1099
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:12,400
crazy, you know, like like 
Thermo nuclear ceilings in given

1100
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,300
weeks, but it's just like, I 
don't know. 

1101
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:16,700
How much are they going to be 
able to access that and are they

1102
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:19,600
gonna draft another? 
The running back and cut. 

1103
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,500
See, what are they gonna do for?
Third wide, receiver. 

1104
00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:24,300
They going to play Jim Tolbert 
or is they can assign Odell 

1105
00:58:24,300 --> 00:58:25,600
Beckham like what are they gonna
do? 

1106
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,900
So at first blush, it looked a 
little bit low but after 

1107
00:58:28,900 --> 00:58:32,400
actually saying all that out 
loud, I'm like yeah no I think I

1108
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,000
get it. 
I think it makes me think it's 

1109
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,500
not right? 
Yeah, it's tough to to project 

1110
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:40,300
you that that second guy is 
going to be anyways, Pete, I 

1111
00:58:40,308 --> 00:58:43,500
know you have a hard out at you.
I think, Davis and I will stay 

1112
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:47,200
on for a bit longer to talk a 
few, a few more points here on 

1113
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,800
the market movement, but You 
leave? 

1114
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,800
Do you have your favorite value 
right now, by ATP that you want 

1115
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,400
to want to tap out? 
Well, we have mentioned him on 

1116
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,300
the show, but I feel like I'm 
selecting Marvin memes. 

1117
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:03,900
And basically, every draft I'm 
doing right now and he does just

1118
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:07,000
feel like a guy who's going to 
continue to jump off like I 

1119
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,400
wouldn't be surprised to see 
him. 

1120
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,200
You know you think back to like 
last year were Alec Pierce ended

1121
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,100
up as just like a 13th 14th 
round pick and almost every 

1122
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:17,000
draft I feel like Mims is like 
almost certainly headed there if

1123
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,200
not maybe a smidge higher. 
And I like that one. 

1124
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,200
I got I got no issue with that. 
I think he's gonna be I think 

1125
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,300
leaving before the draft rise 30
spots or so, so we'll see. 

1126
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:31,000
Well thank you guys for having 
me. 

1127
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,800
Great work with the show. 
Thank you guys, everyone for 

1128
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,200
hanging out. 
I'm going to dip but these two 

1129
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,600
will hold down the fort. 
See a bigger Peter. 

1130
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,500
Anything else here you wanted to
to touch on from a team 

1131
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:48,600
perspective? 
I guess the only other one for 

1132
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,900
me, besides, sometimes we 
already talked about. 

1133
00:59:50,900 --> 00:59:54,100
I think the Rams we talked about
before, that's a good one, but 

1134
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:59,000
maybe maybe a new one that I'll 
throw out here is is Denver. 

1135
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,900
I'm not super confident in it, 
but I think, you know, 

1136
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,600
quarterbacks do have just bad 
seasons and Russell Wilson's 

1137
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,200
version of a Bad season was much
worse. 

1138
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,000
And what we've seen from, you 
know, Aaron Rodgers down years 

1139
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,000
in Green Bay or Tom Brady's down
ears on the Patriots. 

1140
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:23,500
But I think the market does tend
to overreact these outlier down 

1141
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:26,800
years for guys. 
Sometimes and it certainly, you 

1142
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,900
know, I'm not going to be 
building my teams with 25%, 

1143
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:34,100
Russell, Wilson's tax. 
But I think Denver is, is pretty

1144
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,300
fairly priced. 
And you can do like a mega stack

1145
01:00:38,300 --> 01:00:42,000
of them in a pretty affordable 
way and just bet on Russell 

1146
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,700
Wilson sort of returning to form
with a coach. 

1147
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:46,100
That's not my thing. 
You'll Hackett. 

1148
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,600
I don't hate that one because it
could just be sort of similar to

1149
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,300
the Jaguar stuff. 
This last year, just betting 

1150
01:00:55,300 --> 01:00:57,900
that Nathaniel hack. 
It was just like an all-time 

1151
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,000
loser. 
Who's got no ability to control 

1152
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,900
or understand? 
An NFL locker room. 

1153
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,600
I like that another one. 
Honestly, the New England 

1154
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:12,600
Patriots, just like having an 
offensive Feels like it could be

1155
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,100
an edge because they were not, 
they were, you know, they were 

1156
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:21,000
not they were dated blow the 
doors off anyone on offense in 

1157
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,000
2021, but they were a lot lot 
better on offense than they were

1158
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,100
in 2022. 
Sounds like they're pretty much 

1159
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:32,200
running everything back except 
we're moving Jacoby Myers who, 

1160
01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:36,000
you know, Jacoby and Meyers, 
would sort of like, you'll get 

1161
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,500
Jamison Crowder, like he can 
volume Spike. 

1162
01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:41,200
He was nice, especially weeks 
where he scored a touchdown. 

1163
01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:44,200
Down. 
But you got to figure removing 

1164
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,800
him from the offense, just opens
up a bunch of targets for other 

1165
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,200
guys who have been really hard 
to keep on fantasy rosters, the 

1166
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,800
last couple of years and and 
they'll probably draft someone 

1167
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,100
maybe they make a trade, you 
know, maybe Hunter Henry evolves

1168
01:01:57,100 --> 01:01:58,900
into a larger role. 
Maybe they finally figure out 

1169
01:01:58,900 --> 01:02:02,000
how to use jaanu like you, I 
think you can definitely stack 

1170
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,200
Matt Jones with the running 
backs with pierced wrong with 

1171
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,500
Kevin Harris. 
Whoever like it, just feels like

1172
01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:11,200
The Patriots will, at least you 
copy, they'll be a competent 

1173
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,400
team and every team ahead of 
them looks non competent. 

1174
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,300
The Buccaneers will be non 
competent, the Titans will be 

1175
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,100
non competent, the notes will 
probably be non competent. 

1176
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:26,400
I like that one a lot actually. 
And the interesting thing on 

1177
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,500
this chart is I think it 
actually under cells, how cheap 

1178
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:33,700
they are because Jacoby Myers is
that red dashed in the chart and

1179
01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:36,400
he's likely gone. 
So, if you take him out of the 

1180
01:02:36,408 --> 01:02:40,400
equation, I think doing Even 
jumps like Carolina and Houston 

1181
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,000
as being like the absolute. 
Just most Dirt Cheap team and 

1182
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,200
fantasy right now. 
So yeah, I like that quite a 

1183
01:02:47,207 --> 01:02:48,900
bit. 
I don't know this at exactly. 

1184
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:52,900
But I think in 20 21, 22 years 
ago, the Patriots were a top 10 

1185
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:56,100
scoring offense, an offense in 
the league like that Jones. 

1186
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,700
Had a good rookie year, you 
know? 

1187
01:02:57,700 --> 01:03:00,400
Now they were something. 
They're like, I think they were 

1188
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,700
like top 5 Indie, be away on 
offense, in 2012. 

1189
01:03:04,700 --> 01:03:09,500
And then you hire, you know, two
of the biggest cloud show failed

1190
01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:12,600
coaches in the league as your Co
offensive coordinators, even 

1191
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,600
though they've never coached 
offense before and surprisingly 

1192
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:20,200
that didn't work, but it's 
really nice that yeah, that was 

1193
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,100
around this but yeah, I like 
that one quite a bit actually 

1194
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:26,700
don't think of taking any Maxi 
on Stacks, but you've definitely

1195
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:28,800
you definitely sold me on that 
one. 

1196
01:03:29,700 --> 01:03:33,100
Some gross, you know, backdoor 
Mac, Jones taekwon Thornton 

1197
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,100
Hunter, Henry stacks, Which you 
can get like 16th 18th to 20th 

1198
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:39,900
round or something right now. 
So we're going to get, we're 

1199
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:41,700
going to get Bailey's a peed on 
this. 

1200
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,600
Yeah, that's that. 
Actually I mean I don't want to 

1201
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,000
I'm a Patriots fan so I can talk
more about that. 

1202
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,800
But I think that is at least 
worth monitoring in the 

1203
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:56,600
offseason what the buzz is 
there, because yeah, I don't 

1204
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,600
know how much Bella check the 
belcheck, Matt Jones 

1205
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,000
relationship. 
I don't know how strong that is 

1206
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,000
right now, so I'm monitoring 
that but I'm not I'm not going 

1207
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,500
to draft and he's happy right 
now. 

1208
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:15,800
I think, let's move on there. 
Yeah let's talk about the 

1209
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,200
positional ADP stuff. 
I didn't want to hit on this on 

1210
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,100
the show. 
Actually I would recommend 

1211
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:23,700
everyone. 
Check out this article that 

1212
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:28,000
Haydn wrote a couple weeks ago 
where he looked at the 

1213
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:33,000
positional ADP this year verse 
verse last year, basically, 

1214
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,100
highlighted that running backs 
are going much cheaper, both 

1215
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:38,400
quarterbacks, and wide 
receivers. 

1216
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,600
Is are more expensive. 
So I sort of took my own stab at

1217
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,800
visualizing this here sort of 
Leon look want to look at, is 

1218
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,200
the black bar represents the 
current average ATP of the 

1219
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,800
positional group. 
So, for quarterbacks for 

1220
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,000
examples, they're going on, 
average at like, pick 50 

1221
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,700
quarterbacks 1 through 12 in 
2022. 

1222
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,600
So, last year, when you're 
drafting Basketball Mania teams 

1223
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,100
in August and September, the 
average quarter quarterback, one

1224
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:11,200
was going at pick like 70 by 80.
So they've risen on average 

1225
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,500
almost by like 20 spots by ATP 
quarterback wants. 

1226
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,900
And that's sort of been offset 
by running backs, Falling by a 

1227
01:05:19,908 --> 01:05:22,600
similar amount, running running 
backs, one and running back to 

1228
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:27,100
so running backs ranked one 
through 24 have dropped by about

1229
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:32,200
20 spots from last year. 
So yeah I just thought like I'm 

1230
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,200
still thinking through how 
actionable this is. 

1231
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,800
And like the quarterback stuff 
is toxic as been. 

1232
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,400
Talked a lot about so far but 
like Like I don't know. 

1233
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,500
Part of me is wondering if 
there's like our running backs 

1234
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:45,600
just universally like mispriced 
right now and I should be like 

1235
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,900
like okay with taking guys in 
The Dead Zone because guys that 

1236
01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:52,100
are going in the dead zone now 
actually like in past years 

1237
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:54,500
would be going in the second 
round and those types of players

1238
01:05:54,500 --> 01:05:56,200
up get hit rates. 
Like, I don't know. 

1239
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,200
I think there's a lot of things 
like to think about here and 

1240
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,600
what the implications are for 
Fantasy. 

1241
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,300
But yeah, curious what your 
thoughts are of just running 

1242
01:06:03,300 --> 01:06:06,000
backs, being much cheaper and 
both quarterbacks and receivers 

1243
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,400
being being more expensive 
honored a group under it. 

1244
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,700
Right now. 
I mean, yeah, you just hit it, 

1245
01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:14,900
which is that for every, for 
every, for every action, there 

1246
01:06:14,900 --> 01:06:16,700
needs to be an equal and 
opposite reaction. 

1247
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,200
Not only our quarterbacks being 
pushed up, but wide receivers 

1248
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,600
are being pushed up as well. 
Jalen waddle, second round pick 

1249
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:25,400
T. 
Higgins. 

1250
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,100
Second round pick. 
Do you want the Smith Chris, a 

1251
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:28,000
lava. 
Do you like these? 

1252
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,700
Guys are DeAndre Hopkins being 
picked very high for a guy 

1253
01:06:31,700 --> 01:06:34,500
who's, like, 32 very uncertain. 
What team, he's going to be 

1254
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:38,100
playing for Amari Cooper. 
I think a great example of a guy

1255
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:42,000
being Drafted like, very high 
given the context of the offense

1256
01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:45,500
that he plays in Christian 
Watson, Crick and Watson. 

1257
01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:48,700
I mean, yeah, sure ran ran like,
God would touch Downs. 

1258
01:06:48,700 --> 01:06:50,600
I think he's obviously very 
good, right? 

1259
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,800
I'm not meaning. 
And I'm not even saying, I don't

1260
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,100
get it. 
But the idea that, for example, 

1261
01:06:55,100 --> 01:07:00,100
Christian Watson would be, you 
know, on average, going ahead of

1262
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:04,300
D'Andre Swift or Dalvin cook or 
his teammate, Aaron Jones, or 

1263
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:07,200
Damien Pierce. 
This is an ATP that does not 

1264
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:11,700
make any sense, day me. 
A Was a stone Workhorse young 

1265
01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:15,200
crazy athletic. 
The offense is going to be so 

1266
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,800
much better this year, right? 
I mean, like the Davis Mills, 

1267
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,000
Jeff driskel nonsense, like, at 
the very least, you were gonna 

1268
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,500
have a competent High upside 
quarterback in that room. 

1269
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,100
Like, yeah, I mean that that is 
basically just the lesson is 

1270
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:32,300
that these running backs, are 
these running backs are 

1271
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,900
especially in half. 
PPR, there's full PP arches, 

1272
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:38,400
grafting scoring. 
I think I think there's actually

1273
01:07:38,500 --> 01:07:40,900
We an argument that they're 
actually probably just being 

1274
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:45,300
priced appropriately and even 
inside of ATP, it looks like 

1275
01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:50,400
some of the adp's to me are bad 
and there are exploitable like 

1276
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,000
David Montgomery, and Jamaal 
Williams are both free agents 

1277
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,500
right now. 
Why would Jim always be going 

1278
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:57,800
ahead of David Montgomery? 
Whatever, team signs David 

1279
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,700
Montgomery is going to sign him 
to be David Montgomery. 

1280
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,300
You know where's Jamaal 
Williams? 

1281
01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:03,900
Has not earned. 
That cachet. 

1282
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,500
There's a pretty big age Gap 
with those guys, too. 

1283
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,400
I think so. yeah, that would 
make sense to me but that I 

1284
01:08:10,408 --> 01:08:12,900
thought your Watson point was 
really interesting because like 

1285
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:19,399
I think that this like it's sort
of emblematic of how we like 

1286
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:22,399
these simple heuristics and 
fantasy football, which is, you 

1287
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:25,300
know, draft second year wide 
receivers that flashed in a year

1288
01:08:25,300 --> 01:08:28,700
one because traditionally those 
guys have always outperform hit 

1289
01:08:28,700 --> 01:08:32,399
rates but guys like Christian 
Watson who like played, you 

1290
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:37,100
know, only six or seven games as
a full-time player would not 

1291
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:40,399
have been going like in the The 
early fourth round, you know, 

1292
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:43,200
three, four, five years ago, 
there's an argument, he wasn't 

1293
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,300
even the best, rookie wide 
receiver on his team. 

1294
01:08:45,300 --> 01:08:48,000
There's an argument that Romeo 
Dobbs is actually like a more 

1295
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,300
functional player who is like 
used in a more varied style than

1296
01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:54,899
Watson was. 
But it's like, yeah, even like 

1297
01:08:54,899 --> 01:08:59,000
I'm thinking maybe the best cop 
in recent years is like I, you 

1298
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,300
can sort of a similar like had 
this crazy stretch, then, to the

1299
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:06,200
year, we had a ton of huge like 
we're or Debo where it's all 

1300
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,300
touchdowns. 
Yeah, or Deebo. 

1301
01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:11,100
Those guys were going like I 
think second year at York was 

1302
01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:14,500
going in the seventh or eighth 
before at the very end of the 

1303
01:09:14,508 --> 01:09:16,300
year, like surging up to the 
fifth sixth. 

1304
01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:20,500
Like, now, these guys are 
starting the year like in March,

1305
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,100
as a fourth-round pick like and 
I'm not saying I'm totally out 

1306
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:26,800
on Watson. 
I'm not sure about I'm not, I'm 

1307
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:31,100
not either but that is a huge 
sea change for the last 30 years

1308
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:33,700
of fantasy football. 
Yeah, you have to really yeah. 

1309
01:09:33,700 --> 01:09:36,000
Like I think that's something 
I'm going to try to hammer this 

1310
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,600
offseason is like these. 
These are risks that were Worked

1311
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,600
in years past like once they're 
fully baked into the market 

1312
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,899
prices, you can no longer. 
Like I think another one is like

1313
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,300
draft rookie wide receivers 
early, like they're gonna rise 

1314
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:51,700
as the season goes on, like I 
think that's no longer true. 

1315
01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:56,700
Like jsn is going at pick 50. 
Like I'm not, I don't think he's

1316
01:09:56,700 --> 01:09:59,300
going to rise unless he gets 
picked by like the bills or 

1317
01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:01,400
chiefs, right? 
Like I don't know, these are 

1318
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:02,500
risks. 
I think we have to be very 

1319
01:10:02,500 --> 01:10:05,300
careful about in this new 
landscape where everyone loves a

1320
01:10:05,308 --> 01:10:08,400
lot receivers and hates running 
backs, like it's no longer. 

1321
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:11,800
Of the same game that we're 
playing, especially when a lot 

1322
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:16,000
of these like studies that we 
rely on rppr and this game on I 

1323
01:10:16,008 --> 01:10:19,600
was happy PR. 
So it's really interesting like 

1324
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,100
you have to adjust the market at
some point. 

1325
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:25,000
Like I'm not just only hammering
running backs and rounds three 

1326
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,200
through six is there's all this 
data like you still need to take

1327
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,700
wide receivers obviously. 
But you got to be careful with 

1328
01:10:30,700 --> 01:10:33,800
with some of this stuff on the 
landscape changes, this 

1329
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,900
dramatically. 
I think, I mean, I would say 

1330
01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:39,500
probably the biggest point that 
we just hit on There is that 

1331
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:41,900
have PR and full? 
PPR a different game. 

1332
01:10:41,900 --> 01:10:45,900
The same way that the MBA when 
they added the three-point line 

1333
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:49,600
became a different game like it 
just actually a huge difference.

1334
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,600
Those points are so those 
reception points are so big and 

1335
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:59,400
account for so much of the 
scoring in full, PPR and and 

1336
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,900
diminish so much and their value
in half PBR. 

1337
01:11:03,700 --> 01:11:08,300
And and also because the total 
number of points decreases the 

1338
01:11:08,500 --> 01:11:11,600
Value of a Russian yard 
increases, you know so like a 

1339
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,500
tea, set 87, rushing yards in in
ffp. 

1340
01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:21,400
See it's like who gives a shit 
you know but in 21, carries 21, 

1341
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,100
carries 87 yards and a touchdown
is a pretty good stat line in 

1342
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,200
Underdog. 
That's the that's a mile Sanders

1343
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,400
right there. 
Right is now Sanders lamothe 

1344
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,900
Sanders the the algae are the? 
Yeah. 

1345
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,700
Yeah. 
That's your thesis. 

1346
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,300
Yeah. 
So anyways, I I just, I thought 

1347
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:40,800
I thought this positional stuff 
is interesting. 

1348
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,600
I'll I definitely want to, I 
think like part of it, you could

1349
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,500
argue to is that the type of 
drafter that's drafting right 

1350
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:50,400
now is sort of like the yes, a 
dynasty sicko that loves wide 

1351
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:51,900
receivers and hates running 
backs. 

1352
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:54,900
Like we're we also, you know, in
the grand scheme of those 

1353
01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:57,800
things, we kind of, you know, 
fit in that bucket, you know, 

1354
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,700
when you consider the whole pool
of fantasy players. 

1355
01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:05,500
So it'll be interesting to see 
if these kind of normalize, as 

1356
01:12:05,500 --> 01:12:09,100
more casuals enter, or if this 
is truly like the You the new 

1357
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:12,600
landscape we live in an underdog
but we'll keep monitoring it. 

1358
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:18,100
Let's wrap up your Davis as we 
try to do in every show I want 

1359
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:21,800
to hear what your best. 
What you think the best value is

1360
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:27,600
right now on under tog in terms 
of closing line value by August 

1361
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:33,400
and September 22 at well eat 22 
at well 22 out well as 

1362
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,700
undrafted. 
I mean he finally put. 

1363
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:38,300
Yeah he finally played last year
and didn't die. 

1364
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,800
Tie that would like that. 
It's gotta be a huge upset. 

1365
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,900
That 22 was finally, like pretty
much. 

1366
01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:45,700
Let's see, how many what was his
most snaps in a game. 

1367
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:51,600
I'm going to guess he played at 
least one game of 70% snaps, I 

1368
01:12:51,608 --> 01:12:54,200
think. 
Oh yeah I think by the end T he 

1369
01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:58,500
yeah he was he was getting was 
92 93 percent eighty four 

1370
01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:02,600
percent sixty nine eighty four. 
He got through a month of NFL 

1371
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,700
football as a full-time player 
and was not depleted into 

1372
01:13:06,700 --> 01:13:09,200
another Universe. 
I think that's super bullish. 

1373
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:14,500
So I got I got to to at well as 
as a big value right now I like 

1374
01:13:14,500 --> 01:13:17,900
that and you know Alan 
Robinson's, I think completely 

1375
01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:20,800
gone. 
You know, Vin Jefferson. 

1376
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:23,600
I think Jefferson's also a fine 
pick if you want to take him. 

1377
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:28,000
Sure, he's really cheap as well 
but someone on the Rams is going

1378
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,200
to step up and we know the Rams 
don't have a ton of cap space or

1379
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,400
anything to acquire, guys. 
So I'm trying to pull up that. 

1380
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,000
Well now to see I think like if 
I remember correctly was kind of

1381
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,700
spiking on some of like my usage
stuff by the end of the year 

1382
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,800
because they were they were 
giving him they were giving him 

1383
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,800
rushes to. 
Yeah, he had 20% targets 

1384
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,200
throughout Iran which is pretty 
solid. 

1385
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:57,700
One point seven yards per down 
again, like all I'd like you 

1386
01:13:57,700 --> 01:14:00,500
didn't you didn't face planting 
his opportunity it wasn't like 

1387
01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:05,600
special but it certainly was was
solid enough that I think at a 

1388
01:14:05,608 --> 01:14:14,300
completely free cost he is With 
a vet there for me, I think I'm 

1389
01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:18,100
gonna go with something. 
We talked about earlier will 

1390
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:21,900
Levis and it's, you know, I'm 
not going to remake the Justin 

1391
01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:24,100
Herbert. 
Zach Wilson, you know, Daniel 

1392
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:26,400
Jones argument that that I've 
heard you and Pat talked about a

1393
01:14:26,407 --> 01:14:29,500
bunch but it's just when the 
quarterback with the hydraulic 

1394
01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:32,800
draft Capital that everyone you 
know agrees that they suck. 

1395
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,700
Well maybe they don't and 
especially if they're completely

1396
01:14:35,700 --> 01:14:39,400
free. 
I'm On taking stabs, I think 

1397
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,600
Levis gets drafted to a spot 
where he's going to project a 

1398
01:14:41,608 --> 01:14:43,300
start. 
They want. 

1399
01:14:43,300 --> 01:14:47,000
I think, is most likely Landing 
spots will be like the Colts 

1400
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,100
Raiders teams like that. 
Maybe feels feels. 

1401
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,000
Feels like the Colts is kind of 
his Destiny. 

1402
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:57,400
Yeah. 
Yeah, if Garretson II mean I was

1403
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,000
very certain car was going to go
to the cold so now of cars not 

1404
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,800
going to do it feels like feels 
like leave us, is at the next of

1405
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:07,900
the You know Carson Wentz 
Evolution he's like he's like 

1406
01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:12,400
the base form, you know? 
Yeah, I think we'll find out 

1407
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,900
soon who they're taking that or 
say is definitely gonna let it 

1408
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:16,600
slip in a press conference or 
something. 

1409
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,400
Who they, who they like you 
almost. 

1410
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:19,900
You almost did last time you 
talked. 

1411
01:15:19,900 --> 01:15:22,900
So yeah he's definitely he's 
definitely just gonna tweet it 

1412
01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:26,700
out. 
Like this is roof is open 

1413
01:15:26,700 --> 01:15:29,100
tweets. 
It'll just be will love us. 

1414
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:32,400
Is the picot 4? 
Yeah. 

1415
01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:36,300
Okay let's let's close things 
down. 

1416
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,400
Quick housekeeping stuff, I will
be out next week. 

1417
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:44,400
The show will continue on 
David's and Pat. 

1418
01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:48,000
I believe we'll both be holding 
it down eventually with people. 

1419
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,900
Actually, with someone else, we 
will see, but we'll still have 

1420
01:15:50,900 --> 01:15:53,300
all the same charge of 
everything for you next week 

1421
01:15:53,300 --> 01:15:56,300
that part of the show will not 
go away. 

1422
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,200
But yeah, excited to see what 
news breaks in the next week. 

1423
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,300
I think we'll have some more 
free agency news and you know, 

1424
01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:06,900
cuts and trades and stuff to to 
discuss. 

1425
01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:11,700
But yeah, anything else you do? 
This, for shut things down. 

1426
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:13,900
Nope, that's all everyone. 
Thank you. 

1427
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:17,300
Thank you for listening, Pat. 
And I'll be back next week and 

1428
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,200
we will, we will continue to 
grind. 

1429
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,400
Sounds good. 
All right, thanks everyone for 

1430
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,800
joining us today. 
We will see you next week.