Hi guys. Welcome back to the ship chasing
main event. Minisodes we just kicked off our
first main event of the Year here.
On the fourth of July. We drew the 105 and I have two
boys on the run right now. Pat crane You guys are dating.
You know the police right now, what's going on?
You'll probably hear it. Look better and around downtown
Brooklyn area so it looks like we could be on a walk together
on enjoying hearing the clinking of there we go.
So we were we did want to get on the clock here because we've
already actually made our first round selection.
And we are on Deck here for our second round selection, all
share the board here for us guys.
And I will say, you know, Jonathan Taylor Justin Jefferson
McCaffrey cup go off the board, we're sitting there at 105.
I mean we had talked a little bit about this spot over email.
I mean I think between all of us there was no real discussion.
Other than Chase. First Kelsey did did either of
you guys have any, you know, last second reservations about
going Chase here over Kelsey No, it feels like such a clear top
five right now? I mean, I don't know if it will
through week one, but it seems like a year where I think that's
just going to crystallize more. And we're going to feel very
fortunate to get 105 is frankly because I don't think there's
any I mean it would have been I would have probably lean cop
over Chase Pat's convince me on Jefferson over Chase as well but
I'm very comfortable with Jason 105 and like 106 is where it
gets really hard. Yeah I mean I am Jefferson
overtakes but I still want to have a ton of them are kids, you
know, he's an absolute ball or so love, getting him at five,
Kelsey. I mean it is a bit of, I don't
know. It's kind of jarring.
When you think about where we're at on Kelsey, like compared to
where we were last year like PQ and I were desperate to get
Kelsey in a main event. Never did we?
Did we didn't get any good pics. We don't have the second.
Pick it one second pick. We end up taking Chimera but we
wanted to get another one. Get a chance to take Kelsey, but
I don't know, I mean, I think this I know there's more upside
with Terry Coleman being their targets holiday season, but
another year older, you really tailed off even as a doubt was
down considerably last year, so it's efficiency efficiency
tailed off in general and then it's eight hours down.
So I'm a little nervous and like, to Ben's point.
I think this top 5 feel so much stronger than last year's.
Yeah, but you did just make me want more Kelsey, because I felt
the same. Last year and he was even more
expensive. And I mean part of his numbers
from last year was that he had that stinger and he had that
stretch from like week. I want to say a week or week 52
week nine or so where he was not really healthy and then he came
on pretty pretty big late. Didn't you have a big Playoff
round as well? I think any huge playoff run if
I'm not mistaken. There is that room for him to
have even more, you know, of Target, share and eat like
potentially have a career. She's this year.
So it is interesting to think about that in context the last
year where I was I was with you guys.
Guys, I really wanted to getting exposure to him. 102 103.
Wherever I could, you know, these Titan premium leagues and
to get them at 106 would be pretty good.
I mean, so, yeah, it's fair for ya and it is interesting.
I mean, both on the underdog and ffp.
See Jefferson seems to be separating from from Chase, at
least in kind of a tear of his own and I noticed it over and
over and wonder dog grabs. The market definitely prefers
Jefferson to chase but yeah, I mean 105 106 is just certainly
The Sweet Spot here. I mean because, you know, you
can get Chase or Kelsey and then it is really a tear break.
We have Eckler, Dalvin cook Nagi Henry, all go off the board
after that. So we are now on Deck here in
the second. I mean, I'm looking at best
available, you know, by ATP, it's Leonard fournette.
Aaron Jones. Kyle pits Debo Samuel Devante
Williams. What are you guys thinking
about, as we? Head into the second pick.
Well like the main thing I was thinking about what the Kelsey
stuff was like because I've been doing more Underdog and I forgot
to convert over to the FTC brain, a little bit and just
like when double-check like we're all the tight ends are
going see if there's still that kind of pretty significant Gap
Pascal. See.
And I think there is I think, you know, Kyle pitch being
priced here but he was getting him.
Can we get him in like the 312 last year?
And it was a, it was a bargain. Yeah.
And to have the kind of rookie season he did, in terms of
efficiency is Elite and that you now can stack that on top of an
elite crossbow profile. I think his odds of becoming
like a generational Senator like higher than they were last year,
you know what I mean? Like, we should probably like
increase. Yes.
The odds like up. Our prior to include the fact
that he just ordered an incredible rookie season, didn't
think a touchdown. But that's the only black market
like as a, you know, as part of that Falcons offense and the
rookie tight end, I'm very willing to overlook that.
So to me like part of the reason that gets Kazi is because you
can get a pits here. So if it's is the guy that I'm
really hoping false, I mean, we know we want these year, two
profiles to the, we talked about this a little bit the potential
to start with Chase prison. These guys were both looking
like generational prospects of the positions last year, we knew
this, we talked about it, it was a, you know, obviously I think
for most of us chase was the 101 and like Dynasty, rookie draft,
but if you're talking tight and premium, we had discussions
about potential potentially being right there with him to be
able to start our first draft of the year because you know,
you're too is a you want Target little start with a Chase pets
combo. I mean, it's just like I'm
salivating at that like that would be Super, super exciting.
So the real thing I think to think there and I'm with you
guys on pits, I'm very excited about him.
I think we can talk through the to V2s here because based on
ATP. Kittle and Waller are generally
available where we're going to be picking in the third.
So what were ultimately looking at it assuming we want that, you
know, Elite tied in build is we're looking at a two V, two of
like, you know, Dee Bost Samuel versus, you know, potentially
I'm looking at some of the wide receivers, it's probably like a
Keenan Allen AJ Brown. Michael Pittman versus a, you
know, Debo Samuel. Now, in George kittel or wallet,
actually makes that up. So it's like Debo.
Yeah, you know, when waller or you take pets and you're getting
like a keen in pit manager, brown pipe later, I mean, if
it's AJ Brown version, I want that all day.
Yeah. Those guys situation has
definitely gotten a little bit worse and I mean, they're fine.
I mean, they're good values but I don't want to be like I'm
trying for is not one to be super exposed to kill and Waller
just because they're a little bit better value.
And I can still get this Ali tight end because I do think
that should be more expensive, right?
Or Kelsey, should be more expensive, Yeah, the other thing
that's really interesting is to compare these Elite tight end
ATP on Underdog to ffp. See, obviously, a massive
difference going from Half Point PPR to one and a half year but
you know, Kelsey's going a couple pics ahead of where he
goes. On Underdog Andrews is going
like exactly where he goes on Underdog.
We did just lose Gretsch. Are you know, Pitts has been
going early round 3. So we're getting about, you
know, five to six picks ahead of that.
But a hopeful one point he ER here and it feels like that Gap
is just going to get accentuated as we go down the tight end here
where it's like to get that extra point here and only
sacrifice like five to six spots of ATP relative to different
sites. Seems pretty great to me.
Yeah, it doesn't. And probably I mean Andrews, we
weren't in a position to get them.
But I mean, getting Andrews would basically exactly where he
goes on a half Point. These are our site in, you know,
one and a half K PR side and premium site.
Like nuts. So that makes me really want to
get Andrews when we have the chance to and yeah the the price
difference isn't that big on on pits either.
It's definitely a lot bigger on Kettle.
I like it a lot but he's going like early fish now on Underdog
so he's a piece probably maybe we want to get our kittel
exposure 100 dog. If we have to do an early third
round pick although I don't know if we were to get sniped on pits
here. I actually would be quite
comfortable taking Kettle in the early third?
Yeah, I would too. And I think that's, that's the
interesting thing here. I mean, if we did go wide
receiver here. I mean, you're looking at Debo
or t Higgins. I mean, who would be your pick
in that scenario? I mean, at least those would be
my two, one of the things I've been trying to think through is
getting better clothing line, value Levitan.
I had a really good pot on this, but like I think last year like,
with the You get some stuff which I was pushing last year in
our first main business. Bad we just got bad closing line
value on Gibson. Like regardless of people, like
you know, he got kind of hyped up later.
We still took him on the one to turn or whatever.
If we had the 11th pick which of them like 111 and we're just
doing so many of these now, but I'd like to think that through
that part of it a little bit more and so Depot jumps out as a
guy who maybe we are getting good, closing line value on
We're like, I probably shouldn't at this point because it seems
like, obviously, he's going to play this year, but his ATP
probably just being held down a little bit by some of the
remaining uncertainty, with the trade request stuff.
So, you know, he could be the 2003-2004 Mohicans kind of swap
with out and see her pretty easily that I agree.
And I think he could probably swap with lamb, you know, I feel
like after Adams and digs are off the board, it does it once,
we lock in Lance's, the quarterback.
It does feel like there's no reason Debo shouldn't be going
right in that range. Yeah, I mean it's like almost
reminds me a little bit of Jonathan Taylor last year in
terms of like, The early drafters having it right.
And I was, I was actually in the early drafts of this year, kind
of thinking, you know, debose prices going to come down a
little bit once projections have their say.
But now I feel like he's actually little too long.
So the early drafts Tebow is right there on the one to turn
because we actually remembered how good he was and it's like, I
mean we were talking about Debo in the playoff contest about how
he was the comfiest selection, because there were so many
Anyways, he got there - game scripts rushing passing, you
know, positive game scripts, and I feel like that same floor in
the multiple ounces there. And now we just even have a sky
high ceiling with him to with, with Lance potentially unlocking
this offense. I just, I think he's such a
smash pick. And he's been one of my at least
on Underdog where I've done way more drafts, like I Hoover him
up anywhere after the mid s on Underdog.
So, yeah, I wouldn't. Italy be devastated.
If this guy took Kyle pits here, just because of Jamar Chasin
Deebo, start knowing we could probably get one of Waller.
Kittle, is is pretty interesting to me.
I made it. Steve-O being the consolation
prize to cowpats if he gets night.
I like that. I think that makes a lot of
sense. Yeah.
I mean, who else who are the better receivers that we're
talking about? So Tyree Killin T Higgins by ATP
would be kind of an other wide receivers with Debo as best
available? Sure.
I like pipa. Is that what you guys were
thinking? Like you guys are only in that
way. That's where we are.
Yeah, we were both in on deboned.
We were just kind of talking through the two V, two of, you
know, if you're looking at like deeb over Skittle waller or
you're looking at pits verse again.
Obviously, we all view AJ Brown as closer to Debo than he has to
like Keenan and Pittman, but it it's because we personally have
such a tear break. That's a pretty big difference.
If you're doing those two V2s and like, AJ, Brown doesn't fall
to us there. Yeah, but I was I was telling
Pete, I want to do a better job of figuring out what combos we
can get now that we might not be able to get later and chase
people definitely feels like one of those.
Oh we lost scratch again. I mean it is.
It is worth thinking through like who our selection or the
our targets would be in the mid third.
I'll bring this back here. I mean, I do you think Brett's
we should think about, you know, if we do get pits here will
probably going to be in that range where let's just assume AJ
Brown gets night because he should.
Yeah, I mean, well then kind of in oh, do you go with a bully
tight in Bill? Do you reach her a brief halt?
Or do we take like the next tier of wide receivers, which would
be Mike Williams, Jalen waddle. So I was thinking like a water,
but maybe that's just because I've already thinking, like,
we're Chase pit. So I start getting clean that
equipment. But I mean, I think like, it
just be a fun. Like, I think you could just
read. You could dip into that water
because there's still some receivers that are pretty
interesting there. Yeah.
I mean that's the way I was our brief halt, would be fine with
me as well, for sure. Yeah.
We're also just forming a little Because, I mean, this is the
first wave of main events for we don't know a lot of the atp's
and stuff, we don't know who's likely to fall.
So it is a little bit of kind of guess what?
You made it. You made a really good point.
I don't know if you mentioned this one.
Outside a great point about how digs hold it to a draft.
It's the opposite side of the draft from from the turn until
we get back in that 305. So maybe it's not really
relevant. But maybe we see a little bit
more of this running back heavy that we've seen so far.
Carrie, you know, especially if you know say a running back goes
here and we take pits, then you still Debo on the board.
You still have those other guys, you mentioned Tyreke, I mean it
feels like it needs a brown can fall at that point, right?
Yeah, I mean that was. Yeah, what I was saying is these
drafters to cook Harris, Henry. All passing on digs, definitely
tells me a little bit about them.
It's hard to get a read on the top half just because those
first four picks are so locked in Yeah, yeah.
Well, hopefully they're looking at that to thinking or take
James Conner, so don't get locked out of running back.
So, I beat it seems like we're in agreement here, which is take
pits. If he's there, if not, we are
all, you know, very comfortable with Debo.
And then I think it's just like, pray that AJ Brown Falls to us
and then otherwise we'll probably have to kind of settle
for. Yeah, tier of wide.
Receiver, who are that are available right now the next
best that Aaron Jones.
Javante chub and then etn and Camara a been etn.
As I mean, he Tian flipped Camaro right now, at least in
this morning. So ET n probably goes before
305. I think so there's nine picks
that are not our pic before we pick at 3:05.
There's Debo Tyreke who was the other key, Higgins, Higgins, AJ
Brown. I'm very comfortable with etn.
I'd be very comfortable with a number of those receivers in the
third. If somehow we got Aaron Jones or
fournette, it feels like we're gonna get something there, 30,
and might have to be a running back, but like, just trying to
add up the nine picks that go. Yeah.
Well, no, no, I would be very comfortable Javonte, I mean,
right? That would be pretty amazing.
Yeah, so you're, I mean, you're completely, right?
I just pulled up on the screen. For those of you who are ship
chasing VIP seeing the video, Audio version of this, you know,
the nine pick scratches referencing, there's Leonard
fournette, Aaron Jones, Kyle Pitts who we would take Debo
Javonte Williams, Tyree kielty, Higgins, Nick Chubb, etm, so, I
mean that's the nine right there and it's a brown and he falls
out of that window. So if AJ Brown goes, that means
a chubby Tian. Well there's there's nine picks
that aren't our pick. We're going to take one of
those. There's really there's, there's
ten right? Until we pick a 305 but yeah, I
think all it takes is one base. One or two draft has taken a
Michael Pittman or taking somebody that we are not
necessarily as excited about it. 305 think we're going to be in
pretty good position or even, frankly, taking each TN who we
would consider but it's not like an amazing Target for us at
3:05. Yeah, I loved, I was hammering
UTM and he was like, in the fifth and sixth, but this is a
bit pricey at the special events, like inverse AJ Brown.
Yeah, well in to me it's almost etn verse briefs Hall.
I mean, I think I'm on the Halt side.
Well, is there any chance all comes back or the FPC guys?
Not. Okay.
All right, I mean based on ATP ATP.
There's a definite chance. He's comes back.
Yeah, so getting a chance at all in the fourth versus EPN and the
305. I mean, I want all they'll be
coming back in the fourth. I meant he'd for yeah, be there
for us. In the third, it would be closed
in the fourth 36.3. It's okay, so, here's the three,
four turn, yeah, yeah, okay, so problem, all right, let's um, I
feel like we're in a good spot here.
We are going to try to record these, you know, whenever we
have a couple decisions to make, but I think we're pretty pretty
set here. And we'll, we'll touch base
again. When we pick in the third.
Yeah, I think you're saying that the two V two very well.
It's exciting though. If we can get pets that we might
still Get a pretty premium non tight end, right?
Yeah. And so we don't know what that
to be too, is quite yet. But we're kind of going to let
the draft dictate that and there's a pretty good chance.
I think we're probably 80% to get somebody that we're really
excited about it 305. Yeah.
Because if you go ahead Pat, well I just going to say with
the to be to stuff, I think the safest way for us to play would
actually be to take Debo and then we're gonna get one of
almost certainly we would get one of wall or kiddo.
But that closes out a start like, yes, a spits AJ Brown,
which is the fucking not start, right?
So I say, we take pits and yeah, Campbell couldn't said that
better. That's exactly how I'm thing.
That lets let's keep the Home Run.
Start in play, right? Yeah, I'm with you guys on that.
All right, we will be back here to talk about our next pick.
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