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Hello everybody and welcome to 
ATP. 

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Chasing it is July 4th weekend 
and Underdog has blessed us with

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the new tournament format that 
will be breaking down as long in

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addition to the normal Rogers 
and followers on ATP chasing. 

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Let's go, Pat, fryer homos, 
Anita handjob exercise Jamar. 

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Hey Chase. 
Everybody, happy July 4th 

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weekend. 
We're here today with Davis and 

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Pete. 
I think I guess Pete Pat's to 

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too rich to join us on July 4th 
weekend. 

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So, we got Pete here, instead. 
Man of the people, Pete, how are

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you doing? 
Welcome back to ATP chasing. 

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Yeah, thank, you know. 
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of all 

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of us. 
Normal Americans have to work on

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July 3rd, it's not all of us 
just getting the entire week 

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off, who knows? 
Switch, you know, major 

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Cosmopolitan City, Pat is around
the globe, it could be 

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Stockholm, it could be the lon, 
who knows? 

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But the rest of us are ready to 
roll up our sleeves and help the

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people win this new contest. 
That's the that's the goal. 

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I mean, Pat's definitely eating 
a pastry on a beach somewhere, 

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you know, he doesn't he doesn't 
have time to get his hands dirty

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with the rest of us. 
He's not even worried about 

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weekly winners. 
He's like, well, what I'm going 

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to win 20,000 dollars per week. 
That doesn't, that doesn't move 

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the needle for old mr. 
Kray know. 

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What is the battery size is like
$15 to Pat? 

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Doesn't even recognize 
nominations blow, like a 

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thousand. 
So he's not even thinking about 

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it. 
The only thing is he did poke 

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holes in that logic by Max 
entering the puppy. 

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With slowly. 
He's like a weird combination of

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millionaire and just truly 
broken brain syndrome there. 

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He was just doing it to test the
rankings. 

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Let's be honest, you know, he's 
just really trying to deliver 

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value for legendary upside 
subscribers. 

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Yeah, some Curious have Davis. 
I were talking before the show 

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Pete but we are going to be new 
to this weekly. 

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Winners will be a first draft 
for both of us. 

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How have you been diving into 
that at all? 

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Yes, I have my toes. 
Dipped in this is you know just 

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put all my transparent cards on 
the table. 

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I did my first fast draft last 
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slow drafts and I will be 
honest. 

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I've been thinking about the 
contest though all weekend. 

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It's been it's like snuck its 
way into my brain as a very fun 

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puzzle. 
Kind of like when we first 

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started getting these best Ball 
Mania tournament structures. 

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And really trying to think 
through this in the weekly 

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winners one I think is so 
interesting. 

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There's already so many ideas 
and stuff out there and so many.

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Viable ways I think to attack 
it. 

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So yeah I'm excited to talk 
about it. 

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It seems like just the chatter 
I'm saying that everyone is 

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really enjoying this new format.
I do II saw a couple things. 

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The first is I didn't draft. 
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for 8 days which is like the 
longest that I've gone I did to 

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this morning I'm going to be 
doing to every day this week to 

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get caught up. 
The other thing though is the 

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weekly winners issue is really 
sort of that Classic. 

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This is like a DFS thing that 
people had to deal. 

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For a long time, which is you 
care about grinding, smaller 

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amounts of expected value, but 
higher levels of realization, of

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that value or do you place all 
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thoughts on the very high 
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But the very low realization 
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tournaments and where I've 
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I prefer the higher expected 
value lower realization but you 

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know obviously that's going to 
differ a lot based on your goals

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and what you're trying to do and
gambling for. 

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For sure. 
Yeah, that makes sense in the 

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yeah, I think with the weekly 
winners to, I think I'm going to

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come around to it more, but I 
think I always have this 

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reaction to new tournaments 
where I'm just like you got so 

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comfortable with best Ball Mania
and what you're used to and like

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what you think? 
At least I've no idea if what 

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I'm doing is actually optimal 
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But least I'd like think it 
isn't have confidence in it so I

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can fire a draft. 
I know what my stride is going 

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to be and then when there are 
these new tournaments like come 

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out, there's this like initial 
reaction of like, I don't I want

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to like have to learn something 
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it comes around over time. 
I think it's really interesting,

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like, the playoff basketball. 
I think, originally kind of felt

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that way about it and then I 
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to that format. 
So, I think I'm going to come 

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around to this, this weekly 
Winners thing. 

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Once I start doing a couple of 
drafts, but man, the, the amount

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of different strategies, that 
that I've seen out there in the 

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different ways to play it. 
I think, why don't we do this? 

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Let's quickly hit on the risers 
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That plentiful to be honest. 
This is the dead dimes. 

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This is the real dead times like
nothing's happening. 

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No one's getting signs. 
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signed, we don't have cooked 
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We don't have training camp 
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Like yeah, we got nothing. 
We got we got every 4 days. 

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Someone from the Broncos 
organization, iterates, the Tim 

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Patrick is the the second coming
of Jesus Christ, he's Jerry Rice

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and Randy Moss and one guy. 
And that's, that's really about 

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it. 
Yeah. 

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So let's let's yeah. 
Let's look hit. 

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A couple of years of these guys 
quickly and then I want to Pivot

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to to the weekly winners 
strategy talk. 

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But let's talk the two guys. 
I want to talk here. 

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A lot of this movement is like 
just very small movement in the 

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early running back ATP. 
I think this is maybe like a 

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Tyreke ill effect of some kind 
or like the caffeine declare 

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getting a tiny bump. 
I'm a little boy Tyreke. 

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I think it's also a little bit 
people. 

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I think it's a breeze whole 
thing to where people are less 

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well having him as the anchor. 
Barbie and then you just smash 

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wide, receiver rounds, 2, 3, 4 
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I think those are the 
corresponding things. 

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Yeah, the thing, the thing I've 
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Like so a lot of times, the way 
we do these, charts the change 

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in ATP, we do it based on a 
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these players are ordered. 
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number one here even though he 
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teepee. 
I've noticed these things like a

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weird week to week where 
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spots one week and then drop 
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weekend like I think sometimes 
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or Reason to it, like maybe it's
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people like wide receivers more 
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when a puppy's, not Avail, I 
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There's like random shit going 
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Anyways, let's talk like some 
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happening. 
I want to start with the Tim 

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Patrick thing which you lead you
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Denver beat reporters. 
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somebody reporter. 
I forget who said you know, 

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inside the organization they 
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receiver, the Broncos have or 
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That I think with Patrick. 
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of money. 
He had an early season ACL tear 

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last year. 
So the health should be good 

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enough for him to start the year
and he has a history of being a 

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decent, you know. 
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Producer sort of 700 yards per 
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So I do get sort of the rise in 
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What I'm interested in Pete is, 
do you think this means there's 

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some some risk in Cortland 
Sutton order? 

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Judy's ATP. 
If, you know, Tim Patrick's 

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around taking Snaps they 
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second round. 
Sutton and Judy are pretty high 

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premium, pick still. 
Are you fearful at all? 

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For those guys? 
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in Denver, I mean I've been 
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recently and I took my foot off 
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shrugging my shoulder and 
drafting him in that range, you 

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know, after kind of that wide 
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That ran was so bad. 
It really is. 

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And I think I think there's 
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contributing to the Tim Patrick 
one, he's just a player that the

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community tends to like he's 
been good. 

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He you know last year he got 
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he got injured and stuff. 
So I think they're just in 

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general positive sentiment and 
then I think people like the 

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Broncos as like a bounce back 
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hey I might get a cheap double 
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I dink the trade Sutton gets 
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And all of a sudden I'm getting 
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value and Tim Patrick moves up 
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gets traded. 
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happen until in season. 
Most I mean, I think that's a 

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zero. 
I think that's a zero-sum game. 

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I think, Sutton or Patrick 
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It's I think it's impossible for
it to produce to basically. 

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I don't think there will be 
enough Patty enough yards and 

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five touchdowns and up Red Zone.
Possessions like either Sutton 

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is just so dust that Patrick 
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just plays and Tim Patrick is 
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is like a rotational all third 
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and also I kind of think dulcich
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too although like you know the 
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tight end or lower, I just like 
in my mind, the Denver break the

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the Denver re break out the 
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thought we were getting last 
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It's not 4,500 passing yards, 33
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they turn into a competent NFL 
offense with, with the way Sean,

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Payton is going to call it but I
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thing because don't judge can be
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whereas like one of Tim Patrick 
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going to be on the field and 
three wide receiver sets with 

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Judy and Mims. 
Most likely, you know, not by 

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the end of the year. 
I mean, you need a Judy injury. 

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I think is like the only way you
get that, right? 

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Yeah, something something for me
is like, I think I have the same

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thought as you Pete. 
When I looked at drafts, you 

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know, a couple months ago or 
whatever, however, long it's 

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been. 
I guess since we started doing 

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this, I was like, oh, something 
looks Like the end of the wide 

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receivers and he's an okay pick 
and that range. 

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Now I'm pretty, I'm like full 
full fading Sutton because one I

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don't know like he did have a 
good start to his career, but 

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it's been a couple years now. 
After that, ACL tear where he is

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just not returned to the the 
same guy. 

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He was and you can blame 
quarterback play. 

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If you want, it has it obviously
hasn't been great with rust 

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there with Drew lock their 
Teddy. 

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Bridgewater there hasn't been 
great, but man, I think some of 

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the early season efficiency and 
athleticism Add might just be 

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gone, even though he's still a 
relatively young. 

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I just think he never really 
fully recovered from that, that 

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ACL tear. 
And yeah, you add in the playing

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time concerns with him. 
I just think it's like, if we're

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saying there's a wide receiver 
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I think he kind of epitomizes it
in a lot of ways, where I'd much

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rather take a stab on on Bateman
or say flowers. 

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I feel a lot better about the 
talent. 

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They're both those guys, I think
I have a much better chance of 

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being their team's wide 
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Sutton. 
Does, I'm not sure either take a

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couple running backs in that 
range. 

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Well, yeah, you get on the 
clock, you get on the clock and 

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the ninth round. 
You have two or three wide 

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receivers in your choices are 
Tim. 

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Patrick Michael Thomas, Juju 
Smith Schuster and Allen Lazard.

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It's just like it is. 
There's no worse position to be 

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in. 
It's so horrific. 

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I mean, that's why I think 
that's why I have so much 

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Anthony Richardson is. 
I just get to that spot and 

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drafts and I'm like, you know 
what? 

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I like Rishi rice or Sky more 
or, or You know, I don't whoever

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Rhonda Moore, the same as I like
these guys, so I might as well 

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just get a quarterback who can 
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I'm surprised. 
Anthony Richardson, isn't on 

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this chart? 
Just anecdotally for my drafts, 

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I've been getting my Anthony 
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Now, he's falling automat pick 
118. 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see 
him on this chart next. 

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Yeah, it's interesting on the 
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very steadily falling but it's 
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he's never popped in the charts.
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you gotta take him in like, the,
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crazy and then he's just 
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which is, which is interesting. 
I'm with you Davis, like I have 

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so much Daniel Jones because of 
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Anthony Richardson because of 
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100 and I like the running backs
in that range but like, yeah, 

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I'm with you. 
I'd rather I'd rather take 

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Stabbing like Nico: like cost 
adjusted like Nico Collins 

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Jacoby. 
Myers are just so much better 

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bets than like Courtland Sutton 
and JuJu that I'm just like I'm 

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just I'm pausing a wide 
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Hear you even if I need one 
honestly, like I'm just pressing

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Paul, I just make them I just 
make them eight wide receiver 

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teams instead. 
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I'll just I'll just try and make
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Yeah. 
I feel like those atp's that you

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just described like after they 
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you get into that Purgatory of 
see, Sutton and Michael Thomas 

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I feel like that ATP is almost 

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driven exclusively by people who
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widening, their like I did 
because like that, I took 

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Michael Thomas last, but he was 
literally like, we're getting 

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fucking buried and we literally 
need a body here. 

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I think that no one's ever 
excited too. 

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But they're just like, 
structurally. 

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I got a fucking take a guy, 
right? 

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Well and and that I think we've 
seen that the after like wide 

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receiver, let's call 45, you 
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flowers and Bateman go, the wide
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ATP is so do for insane. 
Actions like guys who gets team 

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are really going to get steamed.
We're going to see guys. 

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We already saw this with the 
Arizona situation Hollywood, 

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Brown is up to a fifth round 
pick, from elmore's, like wide 

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receiver, 60, you know, George 
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undrafted, they're drafted 
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time. 
In the 20th round, he is a lock 

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for multiple 15-point DraftKings
games and you can just take 

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them. 
Um, but the point I was making 

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is any sort of, you know, if we 
get if out, if we get an Allen 

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Robinson is in the best shape of
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They're playing, The slot yada 
yada. 

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He's going way up DeVante 
Parker. 

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We've already seen. 
I mean nothing we didn't already

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know Parker was not getting cut 
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he was on Parker's up ten spots 
just based off signing a 

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contract but we're going to see.
Crazy 5060 spot jumps from 

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Riders. 
Remember when Marquez Callaway 

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was in a brown paper and then 
just was Marquez Galloway and 

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did nothing. 
We're going to see my guess is 

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like five guys like that. 
This offseason where they went 

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from being a total laughter 
thought to being drafted, 100 

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spots to. 
I might think that's a really 

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good point too, because of 
again, like the wide receiver 

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Dynamic. 
The first teams that want to 

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like, you're going to be quicker
to talk yourself into some of 

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these wide receiver risers. 
If you're like, hey, I'm 

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scooping up these three running 
back values and like 345 and 

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like, I need to catch up all of 
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It's and we've already seen it a
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Is Romeo Dobbs or Sky more on 
the chart because anecdotally, I

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feel like those guys have no but
but that's hat like you Then 

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another set of, I got a drip 
advised to open it's coming like

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once the Packers declare a 
winner between Dobbs and read. 

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Whichever one of that guy is he 
goes up 30 spots, when Andy Reid

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is saying Sky more is, is our 
guy week one, or whatever? 

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He's going up, 20 spots or rice 
could go up. 40 spots, you know,

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pretty easily. 
So the two guy in that range 

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that you guys, I like the best 
and I think have potential for 

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huge jumps up. 
Our Nico Collins and Jonathan 

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Mingo and it's a pretty 
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It's just that they're the wide 
receiver ones on their teams and

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I think a lot of research I 
recommend people to check out 

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JJ's a crease in late round 
quarterback. 

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He has done some studies that 
show. 

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Once you get into these like 
late rounds, like a teepee. 

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I forget exactly how he defines 
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later I think is sort of in the 
range he's talking about 

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oftentimes these like wide 
receiver Wands on supposed bad 

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teams Oftentimes better bets 
than, you know, taking Justin 

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Fields wide receiver to we're 
taking you know Rondell more 

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who's not going to be a wide 
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So I think those are two guys 
like we're forget Camp reports. 

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I know mingoes Prospect profile 
like it's not spotless but he 

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was what the thirty fifth pick 
in the draft. 

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If we get Camp report said like 
hey like yeah, scream Queen is 

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on this. 
He's the new it. 

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He's the new age, he's the new 
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exactly. 
So yeah, those are two guys that

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like taking stabs on but, you 
know, yeah, I think that you can

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make an argument for a lot of 
those guys where I do think this

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range like pick. 
I honestly don't see a big 

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difference. 
You know, once you get the 

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tsaatan pick 9V to pick one 
Thirty in a teepee, I think 

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there's going to be some massive
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the next. 
I agree completely in. 

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Like I think you can apply that 
to basically anyone that we 

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vaguely. 
Like like I take a Decent amount

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of Alec Pierce especially now 
that I've been done some more 

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Anthony Richardson. 
Like if Anthony Richardson is 

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bawling at training camp and 
people are getting confidence in

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him as a passer like you're 
going to see Alec Pierce's ATP. 

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Get pushed up to the point where
I wouldn't be surprised to see 

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them like correlated as like a 
9/10. 

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Double tap like you take a 
Richardson you take it up either

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stuff like that is going to 
happen. 

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A ton. 
Yeah 100% let's keep this on 

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track, let's move to DeVante 
Parker that was the the piece of

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news. 
That the Patriots, inexplicably 

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extended. 
DeVante, Parker look, we don't 

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need to talk about how dumb they
move. 

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This was for the Patriots. 
I think like everyone agrees on 

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that they guaranteed this guy, 
14 million dollars, he's 30 

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years old. 
He hasn't really been good in a 

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while, but I will make like the 
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Why? 
I think he's a solid pick, I do 

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think this is news in the sense 
that Parker's contract was 

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actually cuttable. 
They could have caught him with 

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zero dead cap. 
Before this extension, the 

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details aren't fully out now, 
but I imagine this extension 

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locks him on the roster for this
year, for a decent chunk of 

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money to me. 
That's just a signal that 

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they're planning to play Parker 
into wide receiver sets. 

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He's not a slot wide receiver, 
he's an outside X wide receiver,

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you don't just pay a guy this. 
If you're not going to play them

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it doesn't it doesn't mean he's 
good. 

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I don't think he's that good but
last year he played in like just

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10 or 11 games, I think I'm 
sorry. 13 games. 

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Any had to, we had one week six 
or 79 and two touchdowns and 

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week 18 against the bills. 
That was actually a game where 

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the pages are trying to win. 
It wasn't garbage time and then 

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week 25 for 156 against the 
Ravens. 

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So he did have two big weeks 
last year, he's completely free.

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I think he's going to play. 
It's kind of like as a Jones 

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eesc bet from last year were 
like that's exactly what it is. 

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Yeah, it's a great. 
That's a great point. 

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Aunt, that's my stance on it and
I'm pretty, I'm pretty bearish 

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on on type 1 Thornton. 
Now, I think his paths to 

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getting a big route. 
Share participation, share are a

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bit lower because I kind of, was
baking in the chance of Parker 

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just being outright cut from the
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Now, I think it's like a little 
bit thinner and how with Juju 

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there with kiseki. 
There, you know, running around 

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to the wide receiver with Parker
there, Kendrick born, still on 

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the roster. 
Tuck one, Thornton's really bad.

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Rookie year might have just been
a signal that They're not really

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planning on having a role for 
him. 

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He was a guy was bullish on 
early, so it kind of hurts my 

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bags to say that but that's kind
of how I'm approaching England. 

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I guess, I guess I never thought
that they were going to cut 

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Parker. 
I get that they could have like 

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money-wise but based on like how
little basically they replaced 

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Juju or Jacoby with Juju and 
then basically made no other 

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Edition. 
So I kinda always worked under 

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this option like Hey we're going
to need Parker just like as a 

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body out here. 
So to me it's like if you like 

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Parker before like continue 
drafting him as an eighteenth, 

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round pick, he's free. 
I just don't think anything has 

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changed since that contract 
thing. 

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It was like, I think he's in 
like the exact same spot. 

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Like I think it's a little weird
if, like the thinking, like he's

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gonna have a better season 
because he got that contract. 

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I know that's not what people 
are saying. 

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It's saying like, hey, he 
doesn't have the cut risk or 

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whatever. 
I just don't think a lot has 

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changed from you. 
Either liked him or you didn't 

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and he still free. 
Yeah, I think for me it's like 

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yeah. 
He's just a high, a taught at 

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this point in his career. 
He's just A high, a DOT deep 

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threat guy, you know, 500 yards 
last year. 

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That's obviously not impressive,
but once you get to the 18th 

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round and I'm taking all the way
we're, we're these guys action. 

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Like I'm okay with that. 
The way he accrues the 500 yards

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though, is he might have a bunch
of games with 18 yards, but he 

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also might have three games 
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And I also, I mean, this is a, 
this is a pro Mac Jones program 

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for the most part. 
Like we just the idea that That 

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they'll be a more competent 
offense with an actual offensive

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coordinator, seems truer than 
not and the market I mean it's 

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what Ramon Drago's in the third 
round and then no Patriot goes 

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into like the 15th round until 
taekwon goes. 

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It's So change you but yeah 
giant Keith. 

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Okay great torque. 
Should Greg is going to score 

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more fantasy points than you do 
this. 

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You're probably all Juju Juju. 
Still Juju is still dealing with

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a knee injury that he suffered 
in week 9 of last season. 

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He still is not back to full 
speed like that. 

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Just, it does not strike me as a
guy who's ready to pay off a 

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wide receiver, 50 price tag. 
Like I would rather Parker at 

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cost not even close and that's 
actually Loki. 

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I mean that would be a way that 
Thornton's price could be 

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reasonable and Parker's could be
as if Juju just like physically 

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cannot play this year here. 
Let me position it this way 

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because this I think is the more
interesting thing about these as

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players because I really do 
think with like correlation you 

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can justify about any 18th round
pick like it. 

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If someone wants to take Alan 
Robinson on a Kenneth, like, 

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whatever. 
I think Alan Robinson sometimes.

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But this was my question with 
DeVante, Parker, would you ever 

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take him dot-dot-dot in a 
vacuum? 

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So, with no man Jones with no 
Buffalo. 

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Bring back like, just purely as 
like, this is the guy I need for

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this team, that's where I don't.
I don't see it, but I don't see 

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that for basically. 
Any 18th round pick? 

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Yeah, I actually ice. 
He liked making uncorrelated 

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18th, round picks because to me,
it feels like the way that 

446
00:23:02,300 --> 00:23:05,500
seventeenth and eighteenth round
picks payoff is just they end up

447
00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:07,900
playing far more than 
anticipated, whether it be 

448
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:13,000
breakout, performance, injury, 
whatever, that's on the advance 

449
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,300
rate thing, right? 
That like in that scenario, but 

450
00:23:15,300 --> 00:23:18,200
that's not I think we're they 
really pay off is in the 

451
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,300
correlated fashion in the three 
weeks. 

452
00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:21,700
Sprint. 
Sure. 

453
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:25,100
Yeah, I would say, I think I 
would take him like 

454
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:28,200
uncorrelated, I would say like I
would be checking a lot. 

455
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,600
Of other things. 
Before I took an uncorrelated 

456
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,300
DeVante, Parker in the 18th, 
like, I'd be checking, you know,

457
00:23:33,300 --> 00:23:35,700
do I need a tie down here? 
And can I correlate, you know, 

458
00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:39,900
trade McBride with Kyler Murray 
or do I need a, you know, did I 

459
00:23:39,908 --> 00:23:42,200
take Josh Allen and can I take 
Deonte Hardy and said, like, 

460
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,100
it's not my first choice but 
sometimes you do get to the 

461
00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:48,400
eighteenth round. 
You know, you need a wide 

462
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,000
receiver and I don't want to 
take like a speculative like 

463
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,600
wide receiver 5, you know on 
like I don't want to take Devin 

464
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,500
du vernay over them. 
They Parker or something like 

465
00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:00,700
that. 
And I don't know, maybe, maybe 

466
00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,500
something, maybe I'm wrong for 
that and some people would go 

467
00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:05,200
that direction. 
But, you know, I feel pretty 

468
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,800
good about the locks and playing
time frame and it's not a sexy 

469
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,500
pic, but like, this is a Jones 
thing lasted, like, I really 

470
00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:13,600
think it is kind of similar to 
the Z Jones thing last year, 

471
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:16,400
where, you know, and I don't 
expect him to have as good a 

472
00:24:16,408 --> 00:24:19,800
year of say Jones was just like,
you know, look at the wide 

473
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:25,000
receivers in Parkers range. 
And there's no one who projects 

474
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000
for for a role, like he does 
like it's, you know, I'm a coal 

475
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,500
hard. 
I'm in jail and Hyatt Hunter 

476
00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:32,800
Renfro, you know we've talked 
about Tim Patrick, right? 

477
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,100
But he still has an outside 
chance. 

478
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:37,700
I think to be his team's wide 
receiver to where's Parker. 

479
00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:41,300
I think has been such an. 
So the only thing I'd say is I 

480
00:24:41,300 --> 00:24:43,800
think is a Jones. 
This A Jones example is an 

481
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,000
example for why correlation is 
so important because hitting on 

482
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,600
say Jones was part of hitting on
the Jags as an undervalued 

483
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,000
offense. 
Evan engram. 

484
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,900
Ended up being undervalued 
Trevor Lawrence did. 

485
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,300
So that's why I'm just saying 
like let's say an example, I 

486
00:24:55,300 --> 00:24:59,000
have a giant or a ram stat going
and I'm just Fighting between an

487
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,300
uncorrelated DeVante Parker or 
two to out. 

488
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:02,600
Well, like I'm taking two to 
out. 

489
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,300
Well, the correlated bet in that
thing and if you if you're doing

490
00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:10,200
I had to toss you a short boy, 
peace offering their. 

491
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,600
But so to the Parker point like 
I would actually want to have 

492
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,900
Parker as part of like a Mac 
Jones is sticky Hunter, Henry 

493
00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:20,100
thing being like this offense 
on, the whole is undervalued, in

494
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:24,100
Parker is going to be part of 
the big winner as the market 

495
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:27,700
undervaluing this team. 
Yeah, that's very that's 

496
00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:31,300
definitely the best time to take
him. 

497
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,200
Let's go. 
Yeah, let's move on to the 

498
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,500
fallers. 
We hit on it Jay and Jenna had a

499
00:25:38,508 --> 00:25:41,100
second ago. 
He is Fallen a ton. 

500
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,200
I also do want to highlight 
Tyree kill. 

501
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,700
I think there's maybe a tiny bit
of suspension, fears with him, 

502
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:48,100
but he's really not Fallen more 
than I take. 

503
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:51,200
I take cup over him now. 
Yeah, just because of the dirt 

504
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,700
tail risk. 
I'm in the same boat. 

505
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,600
We'll wait for more news on 
that. 

506
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,900
We talked about it last week, 
but yeah, he's fallen. 

507
00:25:57,900 --> 00:25:59,300
I think it's justifiable to 
take. 

508
00:25:59,300 --> 00:26:02,900
Take a cop and Cafe over him. 
But let's start with these, 

509
00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:05,200
like, giant slot receivers. 
I feel like it's become a 

510
00:26:05,208 --> 00:26:08,000
recurring bit on this show, 
where we have to talk about 

511
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,400
Giants, Rod receiver. 
We need to, we need 17 minutes 

512
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,100
of if Isaiah Hodgins will, or 
will not make a roster of weeks 

513
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:17,200
ago. 
Yeah, let's talk about James and

514
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600
crowd over. 
Sterling Shepherd Cantwell, 

515
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,600
receiver sex. 
So to me, this actually makes In

516
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,800
a sense, this is because they're
never, there was never any 

517
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,500
reason for five Giants wide 
receivers to be drafted every 

518
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:30,400
single time, you know. 
Yeah, and the market is now 

519
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,600
deciding the winners are Hodgins
and Campbell, which means that 

520
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,800
Hyatt and one Dale necessarily 
have to, you know, be just for 

521
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,400
the market to reach an 
equilibrium. 

522
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Those guys have to essentially 
be undrafted. 

523
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,700
Yeah, I think of this 
development because like Hyatt 

524
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:50,200
at this price and Rondell Wanda,
these are the ones I want my two

525
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,300
favorite. 
Now you're getting them this 

526
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,900
Eep. 
I agree. 

527
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:56,100
I'm pretty excited about it 
because I wasn't drafting a lot 

528
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:59,400
of high it, but I'm going to be 
start scooping him up at these 

529
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,300
prices. 
Yeah I'd really like something 

530
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:05,100
him naked or just with Giants 
and Rams. 

531
00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:08,900
It would all probably almost 
exclusively Be Giants and Rams. 

532
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,600
But again, like I said, I'm 
almost like a hundred percent 

533
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,500
only correlating my last three 
to four round picks. 

534
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,400
Hmm, sure. 
I would take Hyatt naked. 

535
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,600
Sometimes he's certainly not 
even in like Top 10 favorite, 

536
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,700
you know, wide receivers to take
with my last pick or whatever 

537
00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:32,700
but I could see it Downs. 
I would never take naked, but I 

538
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:37,400
think he, I think Downs is a 
great probably my favorite, you 

539
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,500
know, last round pick to 
correlate started. 

540
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:42,900
Think you have a player type 
that you like Davis 

541
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,000
five-foot-six 140 pounds soaking
wet. 

542
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,500
Just get our downtown's has 
grounds is skinny but he's not 

543
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,700
he's not that short. 
Gowns is super skinny but he's 

544
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:54,800
not. 
He's not he's not a short 59 

545
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,000
that that is not a short King. 
Trusts you Schuyler divided or 

546
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,400
five night isn't it? 
Come on Davis. 

547
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:08,600
Finally, just might as well be 
like, but Dallas is not Downs is

548
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,200
not like a wand ale Dortch to, 
to near the line of scrimmage 

549
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,300
guy, he's all bombs, he's just 
bombs Productions. 

550
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,200
Same for Hyatt to actually, 
Yeah, the thing is that these 

551
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,100
two guys that I think is 
interesting and try to make this

552
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,900
one a couple years ago, but I 
think sometimes we double count,

553
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,000
the fact that a player goes 
later than their alleged like 

554
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:37,400
consensus, you know, mock draft 
ranking, like everyone was 

555
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,200
expecting Hyatt and downs to be 
a first-round picks. 

556
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,600
That was like, if you looked at 
mock draft database, they were, 

557
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:47,300
you know, in the 30s whatever 
they felt the third round and 

558
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:50,900
like we sometimes like, Punish 
those guys for that, like 

559
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:54,000
third-round draft Capital as a 
rookie is still like pretty 

560
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200
solid for a wide receiver. 
We haven't had a huge hits 

561
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,000
recently, but like Chris, God 
honors a third-round pick. 

562
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:02,900
Michael Gallup, deante, Johnson,
like there's been plenty of good

563
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:05,100
mon round round worth round 
Amon-Ra. 

564
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,200
Fourth round exactly, right? 
And like, obviously, like these 

565
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,300
Camp story lines of like Jalen 
highlights playing with the wide

566
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:13,500
receiver, her with the third 
team offense, like all 

567
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:17,200
obviously, he is like, it's 
June, it was June. 

568
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,200
When those reports came out, 
they have a shit ton of I'd 

569
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,200
receivers like I'm not expecting
him to be playing with the 

570
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,900
starters in Camp. 
So I like these guys like these 

571
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:28,100
third round wide receivers. 
I think, at some point during 

572
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:29,400
the season, they're going to get
a chance. 

573
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,700
It's a pretty pretty high pick 
to spend on these guys so 

574
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:34,300
especially when they're 
completely free. 

575
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:36,200
I kind of like this archetype of
bed. 

576
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,900
It's like, you know, it's like 
when it's not completely 

577
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:40,300
comparable cuz they were second 
round picks. 

578
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:42,400
But people always talk about, 
you know, Claypool and Higgins 

579
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,200
were completely free. 
A second-round picks in 2020, 

580
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:48,300
obviously rookies have been 
priced up across the board, but 

581
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:51,400
you can still get Pretty good 
draft, Capital rookies, 

582
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:55,900
completely free just because we 
decided we don't, we don't like 

583
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:58,700
these guys anymore because they 
went a little bit later than we 

584
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:00,900
expected. 
So I like this authentic that 

585
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:05,100
and I don't I always push back 
when I forget, who is saying 

586
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,300
I've just like you don't have to
take any Giants wide receivers 

587
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:09,600
just take Darren Waller and like
log off. 

588
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,100
I mean, the whole reason people 
are applying that I view it, 

589
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:16,100
very similar to the three 
ambiguous, running back fields. 

590
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:20,300
We see the Saints the Dolphins 
and And the Bears where it's 

591
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:22,800
like, I don't even think you 
have to guess, which one of 

592
00:30:22,808 --> 00:30:24,800
those three is going to be a 
hit. 

593
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,100
I think you might be able to 
just guess two of three and you 

594
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,600
might be able to win on two of 
them, same with these Giants. 

595
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,100
I don't even think you have to 
guess, which one you might be 

596
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:36,000
able to get to out of this 
cohort of Five Guys who ends up 

597
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,600
massively outperforming their 
ATP because they're just free in

598
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,700
unless you're just fully out on 
the Giants. 

599
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:43,400
Which I don't really know why 
you wouldn't. 

600
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,000
They showed so much last year 
under Dave, all they're going to

601
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,300
get more in the groove. 
This year. 

602
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:49,800
Darren Waller. 
Add him in. 

603
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,400
Like this is an offense I want 
to be in on you're going to give

604
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,100
me ambiguity in this wide 
receiver room all at cost and 

605
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:58,900
they're just a perfect backdoor 
stack like I'm in on these 

606
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,600
Giants. 
Yeah. 

607
00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:04,700
Yeah. 
I don't draft Hodgins because 

608
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:08,400
Hodgins is just Travis fulgham 
to me like teams shoes, just he 

609
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,800
just doesn't matter. 
I think the winner is likely to 

610
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,300
be one of one Dale or Hyatt. 
I think those are the guys who 

611
00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:18,900
are like most likely to be 
someone that you might. 

612
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,700
Actually have wanted to have 
drafted. 

613
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:24,600
Like what Hodgins is just Allen 
Robinson, you know, it's just 

614
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,600
like 500 yards and five 
touchdowns. 

615
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,700
Maybe like that's a good season 
for him and I just as not 

616
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:32,100
exciting. 
Yeah, it's funny cuz I think 

617
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,200
everyone has different opinions 
about the Giants wide receivers 

618
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,500
personally. 
I'm not taking one Dale, and I'm

619
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,800
not really taking much Campbell,
and I'm taking the other guys, 

620
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:44,200
but I understand why people 
disagree with that. 

621
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,300
I just think I agree with Pete's
larger point that, you know, I 

622
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:49,700
really like this the potential 
of this It's all fans like 

623
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:52,400
everyone's treating Daniel 
Jones, Pass, catchers like, 

624
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,700
completely for dead besides 
Waller and, you know, they 

625
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:58,500
passed more towards end of the 
season. 

626
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:02,400
We saw Daniel Jones have that 
massive game obviously in week 

627
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,100
17, you know, he would have been
in Pat's lineup. 

628
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:07,800
If Brady didn't also blow up 
that week and then in the 

629
00:32:07,808 --> 00:32:10,600
playoffs against the Vikings you
threw for 300 yards. 

630
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,000
And two, touchdowns also ran for
80 yards like Hodgins that over 

631
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,300
100 yards Layton had 80 plus 
yards. 

632
00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:20,500
Like I think the team they 
wanted to Be kind of came 

633
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:22,400
through a bit of end of the year
last year and that's obviously 

634
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,800
down there to street. 
But Dave old always kind of 

635
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,800
wanted to run past first 
offenses. 

636
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,500
I don't think they're really 
gonna do as much of the Daniel 

637
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:32,500
Jones designed run, you know, 
run the entire offense or Sake, 

638
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:33,800
One bar. 
So I think they kind of showed 

639
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,300
that in the pieces. 
They added this offseason that 

640
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,700
they want to throw more. 
So yeah, I'm really excited 

641
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:41,600
about the Giants. 
One other point about this and 

642
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,500
who said it mookie, said it in 
the chat. 

643
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:45,600
I have a hard time seeing these 
guys being free all summer. 

644
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,900
I mean, look no further than the
Paris Campbell rise. 

645
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:50,700
I mean that was what like One 
training camp report that he was

646
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:53,300
like looking good. 
It he already eat frog, two 

647
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:56,100
players who are in my opinion, 
more talented than him. 

648
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,800
So like if that one piece of 
news, think about how like an 

649
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,300
actual training camp report or a
preseason game is going to rock 

650
00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:05,800
it, one of these guys up, you 
can see an 8-round jump for one 

651
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,300
of these guys, it wouldn't 
surprise me. 

652
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,900
Yeah, yeah, I think that's 
accurate. 

653
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:14,800
Okay, cool. 
Well like we said kind of a dead

654
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,000
news time, I don't think there's
honestly some of these other 

655
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,200
wide receiver, ATP fall or 
movement. 

656
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,700
I think I'll keep an eye on it. 
It's kind of interesting that 

657
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,300
the first round wide receivers 
are slightly down across the 

658
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:28,200
board, but I've seen too much of
this noise week to week to 

659
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,200
really think we need to talk too
much about, you know, Digs at 

660
00:33:31,208 --> 00:33:33,400
your ground lamb. 
All going slightly down. 

661
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,100
I think, I think that is mostly 
just noise. 

662
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,900
So, let's move to talking about 
the weekly winner strategy. 

663
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:45,100
So, I wanted to show this 
quickly And I, you know, as is 

664
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:47,300
kind of tradition on the show 
just kind of copying stuff. 

665
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:49,400
That's smarter. 
People have done and repackaging

666
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,900
it as our own sort of an 
important piece of ATP chasing. 

667
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:55,600
So I read even weeks. 
Links article, I read Chris 

668
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,700
cheese article, I read Justin 
her Zing's article and I kind of

669
00:33:58,708 --> 00:34:03,700
pulled out nine strategies that 
those guys called out in their 

670
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:07,200
articles. 
So I think a lot of these are 

671
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,800
interesting, but Pete, I know 
you spent the most time thinking

672
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,300
about it. 
You don't have to go off this 

673
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:14,400
list. 
But are any of these strategies 

674
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,500
are, you know, any strategies 
that you want to talk about 

675
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,300
that? 
You think you're really 

676
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:22,500
prioritize, so you hop into a 
weekly winners draft what sort 

677
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,199
of like the first couple things 
you're thinking about? 

678
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,800
Once you once you enter the 
lobby yeah and I would say. 

679
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,699
So for me I do think like the 
structure of how you build your 

680
00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:37,500
team is by far the most 
important and I do think like 

681
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,500
all this stuff with the stacking
divisions in the bye weeks. 

682
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:42,600
I think that's very funny. 
And I think there's a time and 

683
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,400
place for it. 
I hate to use the word 

684
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,100
tiebreaker because that gets 
overused as a strategic cop out,

685
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:51,300
most of the time, but I really 
do think people need to 

686
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:53,400
reorient. 
How they're thinking about 

687
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,000
drafting a team, and really 
viewing it through a DFS lens 

688
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,500
in. 
Like, I think one of the things 

689
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,300
that helped me frame, it is I 
literally thought let's even 

690
00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:04,800
just like, take the bench spots 
out of it. 

691
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:08,200
Let's say if you had to make a 
Draft Kings line up, which I 

692
00:35:08,207 --> 00:35:13,100
believe is nine spots and it was
fixed for the Our year, so no 

693
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:16,200
extra things and you were just 
trying and that got tossed into 

694
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000
the Millie maker each week. 
Week 1, week 2 week 3 and you 

695
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,500
still have the normal salary 
constraint constraint. 

696
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:22,800
So let's just assume Travis 
Kelce. 

697
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,800
It's going to cost a lot. 
Mahomes is how would you go 

698
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,300
about building that roster? 
Knowing you can't touch it and 

699
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:30,900
none of the opponents can't 
touch it. 

700
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,700
And the thing I keep coming back
to is that I would build through

701
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:37,700
the elite ones. 
He's in that I want a top six or

702
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:40,400
seven quarterback, who has 
access to a 40-point ceiling. 

703
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,000
I would want access to one of 
the top five or six tight ends 

704
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,800
who has access to a 20 plus 
Point ceiling. 

705
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,800
And then I would look around for
other value, value at wide 

706
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,700
receiver value at running back, 
building that out. 

707
00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:55,300
But the main thing I keep coming
back to is the elite ones. 

708
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:57,900
Who can separate? 
That's kind of the first like, 

709
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:00,100
tentpole thing. 
And then the second thing I've 

710
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:03,400
been thinking about is, I think,
always, when we draft best ball 

711
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,100
teams, we want our early 
selections to inform what we do.

712
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,100
I think invest Balmain, it's a 
little more fluid like, all 

713
00:36:09,107 --> 00:36:12,100
right, after three rounds, start
to see how that's Inform the 

714
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:14,300
rest of it. 
I think even more important. 

715
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,200
Like the second you draft Cooper
cup. 

716
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:19,100
You're saying how do I win a 
million acre with Cooper cup as 

717
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:22,400
the Bedrock for this team or 
whether that's your taking 

718
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,500
Travis Kelce? 
And so that's that part. 

719
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,200
I need to flush out a little bit
more but I do really think 

720
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,900
building around what you've 
already done. 

721
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:32,100
And this means pushing the 
structures to the Max and I'm 

722
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,700
not the first one to say it, but
I do really like the one 

723
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:38,100
quarterback build the one tight 
end and then just load up on 

724
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:40,400
running back and wide receiver 
elsewhere. 

725
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,500
So those are kind of the two 
things. 

726
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,400
He's knocking around in my head 
with it. 

727
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:48,100
I'd like I like that idea of 
just giving up the EV of just 

728
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,600
being like one week. 
You're just not going to be 

729
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:55,600
eligible to win to get larger EV
in the other weeks the my 

730
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,900
immediate response though with 
strategy 5 here on Sam's list 

731
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:03,000
which is just Giga stack one 
team, right? 

732
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,400
So basically every week you're 
heading in with, you've got 

733
00:37:05,408 --> 00:37:10,100
five, eagles, five, Chiefs, 
five, bills, five, whoever and 

734
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,700
just be like, you know, the 
three weeks that those teams get

735
00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:16,100
pushed. 
Or if they get an overtime game 

736
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,700
or whatever, you're just going 
to have like an unbelievable 

737
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,500
level of points there. 
So I would guess I would think 

738
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:26,700
people are probably not doing 
that again anecdotally. 

739
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:29,100
I've not been in this room so 
maybe they are and maybe that's 

740
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,600
a strategy that is too popular 
in your and it's just going to 

741
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,600
end up being one v1's of like 
your rb2 for twenty thousand 

742
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,300
dollars and you just destroyed 
all your EV but that was my 

743
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:43,900
first thought the hook. 
Yeah, so I was just I want you 

744
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:47,700
to go Oh Sam, I was just okay. 
It flies in the face of how I 

745
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:51,300
was thinking about my DFS fixed 
roster spot and to me the cost 

746
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:53,200
of Giga stacking, it would be 
like if you want to do it with 

747
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,300
the Panthers or Texans or 
whatever. 

748
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,600
But think about you would never 
in your DFS lineup for one week.

749
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,100
Do Kelsey Mahomes kid Darius, 
Tony and Pacheco in the Millie 

750
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,400
maker like you would never do 
that. 

751
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,700
You're capping too much of your 
weekly ceiling. 

752
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,200
I think you're thinking about it
more of like I want to be live 

753
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,900
more weeks but yeah that that's 
what I'm saying. 

754
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:19,500
Pleasant City 99.9%, I'll 
outcome to make any money these 

755
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,300
weeks and I think those guys are
too, negatively correlated on a 

756
00:38:22,308 --> 00:38:25,100
what you can get. 
You can get your 99th percentile

757
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:29,200
weeks from the other, the other 
parts of your Oscar. 

758
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,300
I actually think it's kind of a 
high floor strategy where the in

759
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,500
a way with these Elite teams 
because you know so often 

760
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,100
they're going to have qb1 
running back. 

761
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:41,300
One wide receiver. 
One type of why do we want floor

762
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:43,300
in this contest? 
Nothing about the payout 

763
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:44,100
structure. 
Indicates. 

764
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,900
It's floor, should be a 
consideration. 

765
00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:48,600
What sport, more bites, more 
bites at the Apple, right? 

766
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,000
You're going to have more live 
weeks or you think that's wrong.

767
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:53,200
So I just think I'll go ahead 
Sam. 

768
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,700
I've been. 
Yeah, maybe it's a Bridget. 

769
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:57,300
I do think it really depends on 
price. 

770
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,100
Like, for instance, I would be 
totally fine, going, Daniel, 

771
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,700
Jones, and all five of those 
giants pass catchers. 

772
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:05,500
We talked about because taking 
them thirteen, fourteen, 

773
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:08,500
fifteen, six, whatever. 
And then when I get a Daniel 

774
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:13,800
Jones blow up week, I know I'm 
live in any of those weeks, I 

775
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,900
guess. 
Darren Waller, you could fuck 

776
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:17,900
that up right, but that's idea, 
right? 

777
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:22,100
But I get what Pete's saying or 
like with the Eagles it gets a 

778
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:23,400
little tricky. 
Like I think I'd be willing to 

779
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,900
take, like, two out of three of 
ghadir Smith AJ brown with Jalen

780
00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:31,100
hurts, if that's even possible. 
It's like hard to do in a normal

781
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:32,300
drafts. 
I'm guessing it's even harder to

782
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:35,700
do now, but I wouldn't want to 
go fully overboard. 

783
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:37,800
But yeah. 
She's for instance, like, if you

784
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:44,100
want to go Mahomes and then like
Sky more mvs, Rishi rice, just 

785
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,600
Austin Watson, whatever. 
I think that's fine, right? 

786
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,900
Because it cost adjusted it. 
Like today was this point? 

787
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:54,200
I do think there is some element
of like You want to like Mahomes

788
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,800
is going to have four or five 
massive weeks all year. 

789
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,400
Your other pieces are are only 
going to go off at the same time

790
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,200
that Mahomes goes off in like 
one or two of those weeks, 

791
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,900
right? 
Like so I do kind of get the 

792
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:09,300
idea of like, giving yourself 
multiple bites at the Apple of 

793
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:12,700
like when the Chiefs go off, 
like your other pieces could 

794
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:15,600
fail some of the time. 
So I do kind of want to give 

795
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,100
myself like a couple chances on 
the Chiefs, blow up game to get 

796
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:23,500
the right pieces to like match 
match that so Do you think I see

797
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,000
both of what you're saying? 
I think it's like, very, very 

798
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,900
like price sensitive and call 
suggested to me. 

799
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,500
Well, and again, and I realize 
it's not a perfect one for one, 

800
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:34,400
but I do think thinking through 
that DFS lens and Davis, think 

801
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,100
about it this way to write, 
like, if you were to stack 

802
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,700
Mahomes up in a big tournament 
and like, say all the Chiefs 

803
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:43,100
receivers were sub 4 K, which we
like saw happen and you just 

804
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:44,600
were like, I'm going to do my, 
I'm gonna fade. 

805
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,300
Kelsey in the running game. 
I'm gonna do my homes in three 

806
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,200
of the chief wide receivers 
because it's going to chew up 

807
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,200
only 12 km my salary, but you 
wouldn't do. 

808
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,800
Three cheap wide receivers and 
Kelsey with the thing and I kind

809
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,000
of think about it this way. 
Well, well actually I think you 

810
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,100
would, if it was you can up for 
the Mille maker. 

811
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,100
So think about it, think about 
it. 

812
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,600
You would never do that in DFS 
because your floor would be too 

813
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,200
low with the correlations there,
right? 

814
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000
Yeah. 
So, because there's no way that 

815
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,300
for Chiefs pass, catchers are 
all going to land at an optimal 

816
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:22,200
lineup, but because if actively,
it's like the FanDuel drop 

817
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,300
score, they used to have four 
NBA where I just get to take the

818
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:29,100
best of Richie James MBS and 
skies score for that week and it

819
00:41:29,107 --> 00:41:31,800
doesn't matter if the other two 
guys get zero, you know, George 

820
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,000
Pickens puts up 18 and great, 
you know, Greg torch gets a lot.

821
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:39,400
Or whatever, you know, and we 
call and we call that good. 

822
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,700
I actually think you would do 
that if you had the ability to 

823
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:47,300
just select the best score of 
the contributing wide receiver, 

824
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:50,200
and also in a lot of these 
universes, I mean, this is more 

825
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,500
micro than macro strategy stuff.
But like the fact that canaries 

826
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:56,700
Tony could so easily just not be
a starting player for the Kansas

827
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:59,100
City. 
Chiefs actually actually makes 

828
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,500
these guys a little bit more 
interesting in this format, but 

829
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:04,600
the same thing would be true of 
like the bills guys, right? 

830
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:09,500
Where You know, Shakir and 
Hardy, I think are extremely 

831
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:14,100
good pics, Shakira Hardy and nox
are all extremely good pics, 

832
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,300
with Josh Allen and this format 
maybe even better actually. 

833
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:20,800
In fact almost assuredly better 
than they are in Vespa Maniac 

834
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,600
because I don't think one of 
them is really going to win the 

835
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,400
job over the other. 
In the other thing I think about

836
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:29,300
of why I don't like the like 
expensive Giga stack stuff is 

837
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,000
again, if you're thinking about 
how and I do think dupes are 

838
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,700
going to be a concern in here 
and say like you're making that 

839
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:37,500
correlate. 
At Chiefs Gober. 

840
00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:41,200
But then there's going to be 
teams that hit the individual 

841
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,300
parlay of like this was the Tony
week with Pacheco with Richie 

842
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:50,200
James, and they're going to have
those three pieces by themselves

843
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:53,500
without all the other extra 
Chief stuff because they hit 

844
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:55,700
that par Les better than you 
just the way we see it in the 

845
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:58,400
Milling maker, right? 
Like, there's so many times you 

846
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,600
might be on the Block, but they 
just took the one piece instead 

847
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,800
of all of them. 
And that's the thing I think you

848
00:43:02,808 --> 00:43:05,400
have to realize, it's like 
you're going to the top three 

849
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,600
Chief scores. 
There's how many hundreds and 

850
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,500
hundreds of teams are going to 
have those at the top of the 

851
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:13,400
leaderboard. 
And I think using too much to 

852
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,700
correlate on a team is going to 
really limit the both the 

853
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:19,300
uniqueness and the Firepower of 
the rest of your lineup. 

854
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:23,100
Yeah, so I agree with that. 
I think what I'm thinking 

855
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:26,700
through Pete is like the reason 
it's different from DFS, right? 

856
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:30,600
Is even that scenario, you just 
described where another team has

857
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,300
a better version of your team 
because they just took the right

858
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:35,900
three pieces and they didn't 
take the Noah gray. 

859
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:39,900
And Estimates and all this extra
garbage at the end, like, even 

860
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:42,300
for that team. 
Like just inherently in the 

861
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,500
structure of basketball, you can
only start eat at of your 18 

862
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:47,100
pieces. 
So like, even the teams that 

863
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:50,900
smash like wait, quote unquote, 
wasted 10 picks on something 

864
00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:53,200
else, right? 
So, like, I'm okay with like, 

865
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,000
wasting one of my 10 picks like 
on a correlated piece, like 

866
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,800
truck, given that it's like cost
adjusted. 

867
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,400
Like I'm okay knowing when I 
take Richie James and 17th much 

868
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,800
you've stacked like knowing that
could be a waste Of Peace. 

869
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:10,000
Because the opportunity cost was
like, we talked about DeVante 

870
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,300
Parker Isaiah halogens, where I 
agree with you is like these 

871
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:17,700
really uncorrelated weekly 
outcomes that are really 

872
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:19,600
expensive. 
I want to be very careful to 

873
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,800
avoid like the quarterback 
running backs tax. 

874
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,900
I love in Basketball Mania 
because of how it can work. 

875
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:27,600
In the playoff weeks were like 
Daniel Jones and go off one week

876
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,400
Berkeley and go off one week. 
Like they're not correlated week

877
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,300
to week, but that could carry 
you, the playoffs. 

878
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:36,900
I'm probably like those QB 
running backs tax or like Right,

879
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,400
running back wide receiver on 
the same team Stax. 

880
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,000
I'm like very more cautious to 
avoid if they're really 

881
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,400
expensive, but given their cheap
enough, I'm actually, like, feel

882
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,900
like I'm okay, like quote, 
unquote like wasting or like 

883
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:55,400
over stacking a certain game 
knowing that like every team has

884
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,600
to waste 10 picks, right? 
But what I got, I'm yeah, God, 

885
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,600
the one exception I would make 
for it is because I do think the

886
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,800
uniqueness element is going to 
actually end up being Being big 

887
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,700
is, I would want to use say, in 
that Mahomes example, I would 

888
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:15,700
really like to use Justin Ross, 
Richie, James fucking Justin 

889
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:18,000
Watson or whatever. 
You're basically trying to hit 

890
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,700
remember the Mac Collins week 
last year. 

891
00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:22,100
We're just like out of nowhere. 
He dropped like oh yeah, right, 

892
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:24,800
I don't remember because he was 
thirty percent in cash and have 

893
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,700
them use the correlation 
tiebreaker to get you on these 

894
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:30,500
unique pieces. 
And then, you know, hey, the 

895
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:33,800
majority of these Chiefs are 
going to be 100% raw stirred in 

896
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,400
this contest. 
But if you get that one, That's 

897
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,200
going to be the unique Chiefs 
piece that levels you up. 

898
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,600
Whereas someone was mentioning 
like, oh, in DFS Mahomes would 

899
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:49,800
be 20%, but here he's 8%. 8% of 
261,000 is over 20,000 Mahomes 

900
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,800
teams. 
So like the 80% does it be? 

901
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,300
But we're talking about 20,000 
teams in a given week that 

902
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:58,200
you're competing with, and 
that's well, but but okay, but 

903
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,600
start to start to break it down 
a little bit. 

904
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:03,900
Let's say I'm going to I'm going
to conservatively, call it ten 

905
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:05,400
percent of teams are going to be
constructed. 

906
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,700
So poorly The there it's 
impossible to win right? 

907
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:14,500
So knock out two thousand homes 
teams there then start to 

908
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:18,500
segment it down more how many 
more homes teams have Kelsey? 

909
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:24,400
Right 4%, probably roughly or a 
4% of the total teams ish 

910
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,600
because we have we have some 
ownership data and calcium homes

911
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,100
are the most common brown one 
around to pairing. 

912
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,800
So if you're doing non Kelsey 
Mahomes teams, then break it 

913
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,900
down even further and go into 
what you're saying, right? 

914
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:39,000
Right. 
Justin Watson, Richie James, MBS

915
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:43,100
you're starting to get into. 
It sounds like a lot of teams 

916
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:46,100
but the total number of teams 
that have something like know, 

917
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:51,100
Kelsey Mahomes mvs rice and 
Richie James is it's going to be

918
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,800
much lower than it sounds. 
When you say it that way. 

919
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,400
Yeah and I would just argue that
it's still a bigger team and I 

920
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,400
feel it's still about 100 teams 
or something. 

921
00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:05,800
My biggest push back is just 
like Giga stacking at expensive 

922
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,200
prices where you're paying a 
premium and you're not 

923
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,700
Feathering in the unique guys at
the end. 

924
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:12,400
That's where I think you can get
into trouble. 

925
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:14,200
Yeah, my soul on board with 
that. 

926
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,700
So I just disagree on the degree
to, which yeah, he goes. 

927
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:22,300
Would you be taking like Boston,
Scott and Quest Watkins and 

928
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:24,400
stuff like that? 
Because I think you probably 

929
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,200
should Right? 
But I wouldn't do that. 

930
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,200
I would just never do start my 
draft hurts or let's just see, 

931
00:47:31,207 --> 00:47:34,400
who would you need to take first
a jaybird room around hurts and 

932
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,900
say Devante miraculously Falls 
and then you go ghadir that like

933
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:42,900
I'm just never going to start 
with those with those four in 

934
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:46,200
there because I just think I'm 
capping too much of my weekly 

935
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,200
ceiling by Giga stacking. 
Those guys, I would rather go 

936
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:55,300
hurts or AJ Brown hurts and then
gained well, kwesi and whoever 

937
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:56,900
else. 
Want to toss in at the end like 

938
00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:58,900
the super cheap. 
Like that's how I would prefer 

939
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:03,000
to play it through an elite 
offense because it goes back to 

940
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,800
that thing and we're going to 
hop in a draft here too. 

941
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,600
I do really think thinking about
the distinction of over 

942
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,200
stacking. 
Let's go back to best Ball Mania

943
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,400
like over stacking a team weeks,
1 through 14. 

944
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,500
I honestly think that's like 
Game Theory optimal. 

945
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:16,500
You're betting on undervalued 
offenses, if the offense rolls, 

946
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:18,500
you're going to be getting those
points every week different 

947
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:20,600
directions. 
The reason you get in trouble 

948
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,500
with it is in the Three 
uncorrelated Tournament, where 

949
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:25,500
you're needing them to 
essentially, go for 40 points. 

950
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,500
Points, three weeks in a row and
if you're to massively exposed 

951
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:31,900
to one offense, you're likely to
flame out one of those weeks and

952
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:35,800
so this format lens itself, way 
more at there, literally 17, 

953
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,400
uncorrelated tournaments, you're
trying to hit the 99th 

954
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,800
percentile outcome in those 
weeks. 

955
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:46,500
I mean it becomes your pee. 
You're exactly correct like the 

956
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,900
cheaper the offenses the more 
the correlated bet benefits you 

957
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:52,200
because it's just stating it's 
showing that the prices were 

958
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,700
wrong. 
Yeah, we can see talking about 

959
00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:58,400
this. 
I just wanted to get us going in

960
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,400
a draft as well. 
Yeah, yeah, I think it's super 

961
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,300
interesting here I hopped into 
Davis. 

962
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:07,600
Couldn't resist, couldn't just 
join a so it's me and Sam versus

963
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,900
Davis, your cut out of this one.
Well, what am I going to do? 

964
00:49:10,900 --> 00:49:14,200
Dude, the Evo my time bro. 
Come on, here he limits. 

965
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,200
Are you in the same way in the 
save one is US? 

966
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,700
Yeah, I don't see you. 
Oh yeah. 

967
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:23,400
Here you is. 
So how about this from an ATP 

968
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,600
perspective. 
Sam in this goes back to my kind

969
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,000
of the onesie, things we are 
seeing in these do have 

970
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,600
different a DPS than best while 
many we have Travis Kelce at 13 

971
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,900
so it does appear that the 
market is starting to Value the 

972
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:36,800
elite ones. 
He's more in this format. 

973
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,500
Yeah and I know this is tough 
for me. 

974
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:46,500
I don't know entirely how I feel
but If this is really true that 

975
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,400
like tight ends should be valued
this high in like a one-week 

976
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,800
format or quarterback should be 
valued this high in a 1 week 

977
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,500
format. 
That I think it suggests to me 

978
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:58,000
that like, they're undervalued 
now and I understand the 

979
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,600
tournaments are different. 
I'm not saying they're the same 

980
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,800
but like a I still think that 
like Travis Kelce, it going 

981
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,200
three like Jamar Chase. 
There's a difference between a 

982
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,100
Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson
and CNC Spike week versus Travis

983
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:15,500
Kelce Spike week like ya know, I
don't That's, I don't know. 

984
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,800
Don't like that. 
That is true. 

985
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,600
That is true. 
So I just think that like it's 

986
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,200
like I get the elite onesies 
should. 

987
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,000
But comparatively comparatively 
though because the burden of 

988
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,400
scoring is lower at tight end, 
you're going to get you're going

989
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,300
to get more, right? 
Because 27 for Kelsey might beat

990
00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:03,300
every other tight end by 10 and 
it gives. 

991
00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:05,900
Well, the thing is the hand, 
let's make this pic Sam. 

992
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,900
We're on the clock. 
Eckler goes digs, Lambie Jean 

993
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,400
Adams, chub, who do you want to 
do? 

994
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,000
I kind of like lamb just because
if you can get the quarterback 

995
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,300
for cheaper, what are you? 
That's yeah. 

996
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:18,300
That's what I that's who I would
take if I was you guys. 

997
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:21,900
I also think like, I mean, I 
still liked eggs but I think 

998
00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:25,500
Lambs has higher single week 
upside with how much the bills 

999
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,700
passed the ball around like 
Diggs is just never going to 

1000
00:51:27,707 --> 00:51:29,800
have a game anymore where he's 
getting like a thirty percent 

1001
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,800
Target share the way they run 
that offense. 

1002
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,800
Yeah. 
I still think you guys do you 

1003
00:51:36,808 --> 00:51:40,800
guys agree that this format is 
absolutely perfect for 0 or B? 

1004
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:46,200
Yes, yeah. 
Yeah, I think it's a pet like I 

1005
00:51:46,207 --> 00:51:49,000
think it depends what you do, 
but I definitely can see that. 

1006
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:51,500
Let's see. 
So should we be targeting? 

1007
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,600
This is where it like, is this 
too early to start thinking 

1008
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,900
about like divisions? 
No, I don't think Joey, this is 

1009
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:00,900
the part of the game tree. 
I haven't explored yet. 

1010
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:03,500
So if we want to start Galaxy 
branding, some of that stuff. 

1011
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:06,300
I also to this the point where I
was saying where I feel pretty 

1012
00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:08,900
strongly about the ones. 
He's like I have no problem 

1013
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:13,800
taking Mahomes or or hurts here 
in building out, Elite onesies 

1014
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,900
backwards. 
That as well. 

1015
00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:21,000
I would take my homes over hurts
because we're going to miss out 

1016
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,800
on her, to stop a Skechers, 
right? 

1017
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,400
Whereas yeah, so we can still, 
we can get some stress test, our

1018
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,800
idea here, hang on, I gotta push
back on this in the chat. 0r B 

1019
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,900
teams are dead early. 
Why make your team's dead early?

1020
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:38,000
You are not trying to win every 
week, like I'm sorry. 

1021
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,900
You cannot win every week. 
You were trying to build a team 

1022
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,700
that fucking runs hotter than 
the sun on the most beautiful 

1023
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:47,400
day. 
I just wanted one. 

1024
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:50,500
You want to Mentor? 
You on am in cash three times 

1025
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:53,400
for a little to X. 
If you want a big cash, this 

1026
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,400
contest, like I won't shame them
in Cashiers but you're playing 

1027
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,000
the wrong tournament, if you're 
trying to turn your $15 into 30 

1028
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,000
like there's what's that, what's
the right tournament? 

1029
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,200
What's the right thing to do? 
With my fifth individual 

1030
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,800
12-person, the MFL tender, those
still going to go do an impact 

1031
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,100
their business for us, we just 
made a genius pick because the 

1032
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:16,700
NFC East plays they have. 
The us this year which we 

1033
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:17,900
totally knew when you made this 
big. 

1034
00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:19,700
Yes. 
So keep you updated on the 

1035
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:23,500
divisional, correlations. 
Yeah, so case. 

1036
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:28,500
Yeah, I guess that means any 
Fuck. 

1037
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:30,000
This is this is where I've never
done one of these. 

1038
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,900
So like we should in theory, we 
should be targeting players and 

1039
00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:39,300
either Kansas City's division. 
So Raiders Chargers doubters or 

1040
00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:43,100
like giants. 
Commanders Dallas, Eagles. 

1041
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,400
I guess, maybe we just treat us.
Say, fuck the eels because we're

1042
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,400
not going to get their best 
players of this point and like I

1043
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,200
love saying, fuck the eagle. 
Let's do it. 

1044
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,900
Yeah, let's do that. 
Let's do that. 

1045
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:59,700
This is, yeah, it's a it's I 
understand why people are so 

1046
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,900
frothy for this, right? 
Like it's honestly this is more 

1047
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:06,200
fun to think about, than best 
Ball Mania right now, you know. 

1048
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,300
But I do think it's also one of 
those things where like if some 

1049
00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:14,500
bro started spinning up SIMs and
like doing all the math right 

1050
00:54:14,500 --> 00:54:16,400
now, I think they'd have a huge 
Edge on. 

1051
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,900
Even even Brad's Bros who have 
done no math. 

1052
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:22,900
And are just you know, thinking 
about thinking that's why I 

1053
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:27,400
think the structure is the 
biggest Edge to hammer out first

1054
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,200
and basically, just really like 
the whole reason, like pushing 

1055
00:54:32,300 --> 00:54:34,300
structures and best Ball Mania 
works, right? 

1056
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:36,200
Is because you're wanting to 
like supercharged the other 

1057
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,000
parts of your roster. 
If you do a hyper fragile build 

1058
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,100
you only take three running 
backs. 

1059
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:40,800
You're like betting that you're 
right. 

1060
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,400
I think you want to take that 
ethos and push it even further 

1061
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:46,300
in this thing. 
You're trying to just bet you're

1062
00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:50,300
right for a single week and 
based on these bets like we 

1063
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:51,700
shouldn't take another 
quarterback. 

1064
00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:55,000
Like we have made such a big bet
that Mahomes is going to be what

1065
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,200
the top score 6 out of these 17 
weeks. 

1066
00:54:57,300 --> 00:55:00,200
And we're now going to build a 
team that can hopefully take it 

1067
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,000
down. 
One of those six weeks Mahomes 

1068
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,500
is the top scorer. 
Yeah, I think if you go with the

1069
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,400
quarterback early you should I 
can see taking two quarterbacks 

1070
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,400
if you like pass on the Elites 
for sure. 

1071
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,900
But without we built 30, Keenan,
Allen Chargers, by the Chiefs 

1072
00:55:14,900 --> 00:55:17,100
twice, I'm down. 
Oh yes. 

1073
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:21,400
I think they also do, I would 
see this would be, I would much 

1074
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,100
rather take Depot because Debo 
feels like a guy who can put up 

1075
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,300
multiple 40 Burgers over the 
course of a season. 

1076
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,800
I would. 
Yeah, this is, yeah, this is 

1077
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,800
where you get into like the 
individual player versus the 

1078
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,200
correlation. 
Like, I don't feel strongly 

1079
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,200
either way. 
Correlation, feels low on 

1080
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,100
Keenan. 
The Keenan on Chiefs blow up 

1081
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:42,700
game is where the Chiefs fucking
steamroll. 

1082
00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:46,400
The Chargers isn't Keenan going 
12 for one eighty and two 

1083
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,700
touchdowns. 
I don't know. 

1084
00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:51,500
Wow, this room is about to let 
me cook the Wilkin. 

1085
00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:53,500
Ater better, not take Depot 
right here. 

1086
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,100
He's going to oh I forgot my 
wife Davis. 

1087
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:06,700
This is a good point too. 
About some of the the divisional

1088
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:09,200
stuff is some of those games 
Fallen week. 18 in the weekly 

1089
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,000
winners contest does only go 
through 17 weeks. 

1090
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:16,400
Justin Fields feels like the 
perfect guy for this format 

1091
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,400
because you don't even need to 
take any of his teammates with 

1092
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,100
him. 
Just get just get the 37-point 

1093
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:23,200
week where he scores, three 
rushing touchdowns. 

1094
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:26,400
I was thinking about this, too, 
but I think I'm almost always 

1095
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,100
going to do commit with my 
Fields teams just because 

1096
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,000
because you got Downs because so
correlated and if he has that 

1097
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,700
massive, I think Camille there's
there's you know, there's no 

1098
00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:43,800
scenario in which commits 
finishes as the Top tight end in

1099
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,500
a week without multiple 
touchdowns. 

1100
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:49,900
There's no 11 reception 180 yard
James in there. 

1101
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:53,900
What do you like it thicker 
either Judy or Mike Williams? 

1102
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,100
Yeah, probably just probably 
Judy. 

1103
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,200
Just gotta think and like we 
said and individual week I think

1104
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,700
Ian and Mike Williams both have 
they both could explode I guess 

1105
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:08,100
but yeah I'll be there. 
I do too. 

1106
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:13,000
And also yeah I think I 
personally just like Like 

1107
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,300
Quinton Johnson cost adjusted 
more than Mike Williams. 

1108
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:17,700
So that always helps me like 
break the tie. 

1109
00:57:17,900 --> 00:57:20,800
Whereas we just talked about, 
like, man, the Sutton stuff is 

1110
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,400
his tough. 
If we're looking for, like, a 

1111
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,500
Denver guy that really has, that
ceiling early. 

1112
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:32,400
Yeah, so Davis, you did talk 
about Ramon Dre, the chat is 

1113
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,000
divided, some people like Bully 
running back over 0 R be in this

1114
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,400
format. 
What about the what do you think

1115
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,500
in there with the raimondo? 
Correct. 

1116
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,900
Other than just being a nice 
value relative to his regular 

1117
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:45,500
ATP. 
I mean it just seems it. 

1118
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,300
Well I think one it frees me up 
from panicking and making a bad 

1119
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:53,200
pick like a mile Sanders or a 
Pacheco like naked or whatever. 

1120
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,700
Like just mentally it soothes me
a little bit to see. 

1121
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,800
See the one running back in 
there and I mean, Ramon Dre, 

1122
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:05,000
we've already seen insane 
workload weekly feelings for him

1123
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,500
like over the course of the Year
could peer strong. 

1124
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:10,200
Could Ty Montgomery could Kevin 
Harris work in more? 

1125
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:12,300
Sure. 
But there were multiple games 

1126
00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:14,900
last year were moderate was 
playing 90% of the running back 

1127
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:16,700
snaps. 
So feels like it sets. 

1128
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:20,900
It like, he will have one game 
with 30 or more have PPR points 

1129
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:23,400
and probably a handful of 
20-plus. 

1130
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,700
Even if his fantasy points per 
game is only like, Like 18 and a

1131
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:30,400
half or whatever. 
And also I mean, I don't think 

1132
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,300
he correlates horribly with Matt
Jones if I wanted to go that 

1133
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:38,000
direction and around 18 as my 
second quarterback, you know, 

1134
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,800
feels like he could catch a 
touchdown, two touchdowns or 

1135
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,200
whatever like that doesn't like 
he, the theory behind worm 

1136
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,700
Andres that he will be working 
in the passing game. 

1137
00:58:49,300 --> 00:58:53,100
LG asking our thoughts on this 
start from Team for CMC parlor, 

1138
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,500
Jacob? 
So, I mean, I don't love this 

1139
00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:59,200
for this format. 
However, if I did do this, and I

1140
00:58:59,207 --> 00:59:02,000
think it's viable, I would not 
take another running back, 

1141
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,300
probably the entire draft. 
Yeah, in this format, I think 

1142
00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:09,800
it's interesting to do those, 
because, like the data does show

1143
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,300
the the top 12 running backs by 
ATP, just have a huge percentage

1144
00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:16,300
of their Spike week. 
So if you just go three running 

1145
00:59:16,300 --> 00:59:19,800
backs and then stack up like 
this guy took Watson if it's 

1146
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,000
plan is to stack up like pass 
catchers on offenses with 

1147
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,700
quarterbacks later, I kind of 
like that. 

1148
00:59:24,700 --> 00:59:26,500
We're like the running backs are
less correlated. 

1149
00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:29,500
You just take the good ones and 
then let me try to hit the notes

1150
00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:31,800
on some like less popular 
passing a tax. 

1151
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,200
I think that's definitely my 
body. 

1152
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,900
I do like that idea. 
Yeah I'll be watching out to see

1153
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:38,700
if he stops at three or I think 
I think maybe four running backs

1154
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:41,600
is okay but definitely no more 
than four. 

1155
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,200
I built all thinking about this 
more. 

1156
00:59:44,300 --> 00:59:49,600
I love the idea of stacking the 
lions in the Saints because Dumb

1157
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,000
games. 
Just get fucking weird, right? 

1158
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,300
Like we don't know what you 
remember, the Detroit Seattle 

1159
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:56,500
game. 
It was like the 11th highest 

1160
00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:59,300
scoring game in NFL history last
year. 

1161
00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:02,100
Like, I do love that idea of 
just consistently getting 

1162
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,300
exposure to those nuts games. 
Mmm. 

1163
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,400
All right, Sam. 
We're on the clock here. 

1164
01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:13,600
The divisional Bros are going to
have to help me out. 

1165
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,200
I'm not seeing the board and 
that divisional thing. 

1166
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,000
Fuck do we do Tony. 
This is Tony to pick on this 

1167
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,500
team. 
He I'm not, I'm not, I'm not 

1168
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:25,800
trying to be Tony or I would 
take one of these running backs,

1169
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,400
I can take Karen Jones or tell 
we have any correlations of, 

1170
01:00:31,300 --> 01:00:35,700
let's let's just get Tony and 
then if we do want to go the 

1171
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:39,900
running back route. 
Okay, Davis is probably not 

1172
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:41,400
going to be taking a running 
back here. 

1173
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,300
I'm gonna, I'm gonna double tap,
I'm going to double tap two wide

1174
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:49,500
receivers here. 
This around Tony is painful If 

1175
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:51,700
your point I like this is this 
is where I start thinking 

1176
01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:54,200
through like to the thing of 
like take three running backs 

1177
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,300
and stop like shouldn't we stop 
with like five or six wide 

1178
01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:01,100
receivers in this team to 
potentially like the only the 

1179
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:04,400
only? 
All right, I got a guy got to be

1180
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,300
with you. 
The only guys here I was just 

1181
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:10,000
going to say Sam I would on this
team be very interested in the 

1182
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,600
Richie James, Justin Ross or 
even one more of like the mvs, 

1183
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,500
like we're just spraying 
praying, the wide receivers late

1184
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:19,700
on the Chiefs. 
Waller here. 

1185
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,400
What do you guys think about 
taking Waller ahead of ATP to 

1186
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,200
lock in the last Elite tight 
end? 

1187
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,500
Really. 
That that also, that I could 

1188
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:29,200
even possibly correlate. 
Do you think that's giving up 

1189
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:34,600
too much ATP value? 
No, I don't think so because I 

1190
01:01:34,607 --> 01:01:39,500
was going to take I was gonna 
take lock it, but he just went I

1191
01:01:39,508 --> 01:01:43,000
mean, Walters got my fucking my 
fucking what. 

1192
01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:51,800
Anyway, dude, you know, I 
thought I had so I guess it's a 

1193
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:57,300
non-starter Sam. 
I would say to this is the spot 

1194
01:01:57,300 --> 01:01:59,600
where like I'm pushed now 
starting to like really think 

1195
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,200
through like my thesis and how 
I'm playing it. 

1196
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:07,700
And even though it's a head ATP 
technically or whatever, but I 

1197
01:02:07,700 --> 01:02:11,700
would give both All our and 
ghadir a long hard. 

1198
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:14,800
Look at this spot. 
Maybe not ghadir, because we're 

1199
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,600
out on the Eagles Waller go. 
So maybe that's. 

1200
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,600
Yeah. 
So actually I'm okay with 

1201
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,100
Goddard. 
I actually look the Eagles and 

1202
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:23,000
Chiefs of the Same by week. 
So I like that element of it. 

1203
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,100
We they play each other. 
Goddard could be the piece that 

1204
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:28,900
goes off. 
He's the last Elite tight end, I

1205
01:02:28,908 --> 01:02:31,900
kind of like it. 
Let's be honest II. 

1206
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:36,300
Think my just hunch is that it 
is it is interesting that you 

1207
01:02:36,300 --> 01:02:39,400
said like so Kelsey is going 
ahead of his BBM, atpg George 

1208
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,300
kittel Goes ahead of his BB matp
pits goes way ahead here, 

1209
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:47,000
Hawkinson actually goes slightly
after, and then Waller got. 

1210
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,400
So it's like, some of these guys
are arbitrarily getting pushed 

1211
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,500
up and others not, but I do 
think on the whole, they all 

1212
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:54,600
should be getting pushed up this
cohort. 

1213
01:02:55,300 --> 01:02:57,700
I agree. 
Also, don't take David 

1214
01:02:57,700 --> 01:02:59,600
Montgomery. 40, spots ahead of 
ATP. 

1215
01:03:01,700 --> 01:03:04,400
If you were drafted with me and 
Sam, dude, we just saw three 

1216
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,300
brains building this beautiful 
team. 

1217
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:09,100
Instead you had to go Rogue 
because here, the EV of your 

1218
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,600
Time. 
How much are we paying you over 

1219
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,200
here on? 
ATP? 

1220
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,500
Chasing, not enough, apparently 
free free 99 services. 

1221
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:18,700
So yeah, the last couple 
paychecks haven't cashed, it's 

1222
01:03:18,700 --> 01:03:21,700
kind of weird. 
Yeah I to keep telling quraían 

1223
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:24,400
at something with his like 
offshore. 

1224
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,000
Yeah. 
So this is interesting fact, 

1225
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,500
because I guess fucking we can 
just give away our strategy but 

1226
01:03:36,700 --> 01:03:40,500
like we definitely are going to 
be interested in probably two of

1227
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:44,100
the Chiefs other like random 
guys later. 

1228
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:47,000
It feels like you're almost dead
to have a Mahomes Team without 

1229
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,300
three of us pass catchers. 
Yeah. 

1230
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,100
And like I just want like I 
don't I'm not a believer in 

1231
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:54,700
Tony. 
I want us to be like I want us 

1232
01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:57,200
to be live from home Spike week,
so I want to be tacking on these

1233
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,400
guys. 
Yes, I meet like I think that 

1234
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,000
Almost means like we should be 
just going like heavy running 

1235
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,700
back for the next couple rounds 
unless something really pops out

1236
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:10,100
because we don't want like we 
bet big on Judy Keenan CD 

1237
01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:15,500
already like don't do, we 
probably just want like six wide

1238
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:19,900
receivers on this team and like 
just play the lotto game with a 

1239
01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:22,000
bunch of running backs to try to
get Spike weeks. 

1240
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:26,400
Yeah, the only thing I would say
is I'm still fine being 

1241
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,400
conscious of like where the 
value pockets of the draft are 

1242
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:33,900
In like, in baseball Mania right
now, generally, like the running

1243
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:36,100
backs are the best picks on the 
board because all these wide 

1244
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:39,700
receivers have been wiped out. 
Like if we were to get a big 

1245
01:04:39,700 --> 01:04:44,400
running back follower here, if 
Sanders and peers but otherwise 

1246
01:04:44,700 --> 01:04:47,000
like all the best pics on the 
board are going to be wide 

1247
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,500
receiver and then you start to 
hit that that running back range

1248
01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:53,400
where all of those pics really 
tilt her running back. 

1249
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,400
So that's the only thing of like
yeah I don't think we have to 

1250
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,700
blindly lock in on a position. 
If we don't like how the values 

1251
01:04:58,700 --> 01:05:01,400
lining up. 
Why is Michael, why is Michael 

1252
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,700
Pittman, why is there a 30 spot 
Gap and where he's being picked 

1253
01:05:05,700 --> 01:05:07,800
in this? 
I have no idea. 

1254
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,700
That seems like, that seems 
bizarre because you'd still want

1255
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:14,700
him with Richardson. 
Yeah, I think so. 

1256
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,000
I think Pittman had like a seems
like a very high weekly upside 

1257
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,600
guy so that's, I don't know, 
maybe that's just my personal 

1258
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,700
evaluation but I see him as like
a bad projections, long bet, but

1259
01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:27,600
like a pretty sick like weekly 
upside with Richardson. 

1260
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:29,400
Yeah, I agree. 
Interesting. 

1261
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,100
So like on here, I was gonna be 
excited about Quinton Johnson 

1262
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:39,400
kind of with our chairs that if 
you want to go Pierce. 

1263
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,700
I'm fine with it. 
I also like Addison. 

1264
01:05:43,300 --> 01:05:45,400
I wouldn't probably be. 
Yeah, I would probably be 

1265
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,000
pierced just knowing we're going
to be taking wide receivers 

1266
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:57,300
later and yeah. 
I'm like, I would never, it's 

1267
01:05:57,300 --> 01:06:00,100
funny because I would never take
Addison over her Pierce over a 

1268
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:02,500
dozen any draft. 
But I think just like, yeah, I'm

1269
01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:05,100
trying to think through. 
Like we do want a bit, like, get

1270
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:08,800
some running back ceiling. 
And I think we want a lot of 

1271
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,000
stabs at running backs in this 
in this next couple around 

1272
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,000
range. 
I think so it's almost more of 

1273
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,600
like a volume thing than like 
individually liking Pierce over 

1274
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,600
Addison as a bet. 
Yeah, I don't I don't mind 

1275
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,600
Pierce there and yeah, I if I 
think of like, I don't know, 

1276
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,500
I've also been on the camp to or
I think Quinton Johnson Seems 

1277
01:06:25,500 --> 01:06:28,800
like 95th percentile. 
Like upside cases are better 

1278
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,000
than Addison to. 
I would have pounded the table 

1279
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,100
for Johnson, but I didn't mind 
Pierce over Addison there. 

1280
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:37,400
Yeah, Johnson would have been 
fun. 

1281
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:42,700
Davis. 
I don't really know what to do 

1282
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:47,900
II was like, my brain felt so 
flustered right there. 

1283
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:51,800
After we make this pic, I do 
want to go back. 

1284
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,900
Hayden had a comment that I 
think we should talk about 

1285
01:06:54,900 --> 01:06:58,400
because I think it's interesting
relative to this team and the 

1286
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,400
tournament, but Sam looking 
here. 

1287
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,300
Now we're back into that that 
spot with like do U Tas on 

1288
01:07:04,700 --> 01:07:08,900
Pacheco with a Mahomes team. 
Like do you guys want, you guys 

1289
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,100
want to look in and You guys 
want me to? 

1290
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:13,800
Yeah, okay. 
We don't have the choice. 

1291
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,400
I'm kind of glad we don't have 
the choice. 

1292
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:19,400
Yeah, doubt. 
So we already took CD. 

1293
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:24,900
Like I was saying pound running 
back, but I, I don't know. 

1294
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:27,300
Like, I don't really like Dalvin
or shot white. 

1295
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:29,000
You could talk me into James 
Conner here. 

1296
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,600
Let me see how it's another tie 
Breakers. 

1297
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,000
I like I like I like going with 
basically playing this Dallas 

1298
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,000
premium double stack Without Ya 
Back. 

1299
01:07:41,300 --> 01:07:42,900
Yeah I like it. 
Let's do it. 

1300
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:47,700
Um, okay, I wanted to pull up 
the thing from Hayden said 

1301
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:49,800
drafting, someone like ghadir 
without an elite QB. 

1302
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,900
Seems like a death sentence. 
If he goes off, then hurts goes 

1303
01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:54,000
nuts. 
Not an issue with Mahomes here 

1304
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,600
though, the reason I disagree is
because the weeks where the 

1305
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,000
weeks were going to be live to 
win. 

1306
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,600
Are the weeks Mahomes, is the 
best quarterback in the pool? 

1307
01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:06,300
And there are certainly weeks 
where R Goddard could have two 

1308
01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:10,200
touchdowns in hertz, doesn't 
outscore Patrick Mahomes? 

1309
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,700
I think it's more of an issue. 
If you don't have that Elite QB,

1310
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:16,200
and you have hurts because then 
you're going to get lap there. 

1311
01:08:16,300 --> 01:08:19,800
But we have one of the few 
quarterbacks who can hang with 

1312
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:23,600
hurts and points per game. 
And we've also seen the Eagles 

1313
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,000
offense be very concentrated 
about one player. 

1314
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,500
Like you get the AJ Brown game, 
you get the Devon to Smith game,

1315
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,800
you get the Dallas Carter game. 
So I don't mind just getting the

1316
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,000
structural Elite upside there, 
knowing Holmes is going to keep 

1317
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,200
Pace with hurts in those 
scenarios where we're winning. 

1318
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,200
Yeah, I think. 
And I think, yeah, Hayden's 

1319
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,200
comment. 
I feel like yeah, he said not an

1320
01:08:43,207 --> 01:08:45,300
issue with my arms. 
I would I would agree with him, 

1321
01:08:45,300 --> 01:08:47,899
I think, right? 
Like if we didn't take an elite 

1322
01:08:47,899 --> 01:08:48,600
quarterback. 
Yeah. 

1323
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,700
Trying to go head-to-head with 
fucking Matt Stafford versus 

1324
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:53,200
Jalen hurd's. 
I would definitely not want 

1325
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,100
Goddard on those teams. 
I don't think. 

1326
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:56,399
Yeah. 
So it is. 

1327
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:58,700
Yeah it got her is a very 
interesting pick like I think 

1328
01:08:58,700 --> 01:09:01,300
you have to be careful about 
when you're taking him. 

1329
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:04,300
Yeah, okay, that's got a strike 
off. 

1330
01:09:04,300 --> 01:09:06,399
Some players attached to a leaky
B's, if you don't have one 

1331
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:08,500
yourself. 
And this is why just like, I 

1332
01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:11,700
want that Elite quarterback in 
that Elite tight end because 

1333
01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:14,000
they kind of work in conjunction
with each other, right? 

1334
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,899
Where you're making sure that 
you're not getting bodied by any

1335
01:09:17,899 --> 01:09:20,399
of the of the field from just 
like a ceiling perspective about

1336
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:25,000
those positions. 
Yeah because that that feels 

1337
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,600
that feels like it's going to be
a real problem in. 

1338
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:33,100
This is just, you know, weeks 
that that Kelsey Mahomes hurts, 

1339
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:37,800
whatever that these guys go off,
it's going to be so hard to not 

1340
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,700
have a lie to those positions 
like I don't know. 

1341
01:09:39,700 --> 01:09:42,300
Feels like if you don't have at 
least one Elite quarterback or 

1342
01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:44,399
tight end, it feels like you 
almost. 

1343
01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:47,200
Can't win a week. 
I don't know. 

1344
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,800
I'm sure I'll obviously that's 
not true, but that's just kind 

1345
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,399
of the way intuitively that it 
feels. 

1346
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:56,600
I think it's yet. 
I almost think that like, if 

1347
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:01,600
we're pricing up Mahomes Allen 
Etc, then like Daniel Jones like

1348
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,300
Anthony Richardson to, they 
should be way priced up to 

1349
01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:07,400
because I think there are like a
set of those quarterbacks. 

1350
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:11,300
Like, we've seen it with Daniel 
Jones, he can have that massive 

1351
01:10:11,300 --> 01:10:13,500
Spike, we crushing, we've seen 
it with to he can out that 

1352
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:16,500
massive Spike week, like I think
Those guys, if we are pressing 

1353
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:19,200
up the quarterbacks, those guys 
should be elevated to like you. 

1354
01:10:19,300 --> 01:10:21,500
I don't know. 
I'm like, kind of okay, invest 

1355
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:24,900
while Mania maybe doing like 
like Stafford. 

1356
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,300
Like Kyler Murray and CJ Stroud.
I don't ya bit but like I think 

1357
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:32,300
it's viable in this tournament. 
I think that strategy is maybe 

1358
01:10:32,300 --> 01:10:37,900
like closer to dead. 
I do see that the the piece meal

1359
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:40,100
together, three, quarterbacks 
type stuff. 

1360
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,500
Yeah, like I'm over little 
ceiling little starting like, 

1361
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:48,400
yeah, I love Love so much. 
Anthony Richardson, Derek Carr 

1362
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,200
Brock Purdy. 
To me that is like the perfect 

1363
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,000
three quarterback, Festival 
Mania room and I would like 

1364
01:10:54,000 --> 01:11:00,200
never do that in this, I think. 
Um, the other thing. 

1365
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,200
So, real quick on this roasting 
us for our canaries Tony. 

1366
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,700
I don't even think Sam and I 
collectively like Tony where I 

1367
01:11:06,700 --> 01:11:09,800
bet were both way under weight 
on him but when you don't have 

1368
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,800
Kelsey and we're betting on 
Mahomes to be a top quarterback,

1369
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,700
why do people to know he's 
coming along for the ride for 

1370
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:17,000
that? 
Why not let man? 

1371
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:22,100
Yeah I mean you got one guy. 
Hi Dave Gibson or Sky, more 

1372
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:24,000
would be the two that I would be
into? 

1373
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:32,500
I don't know, I would probably 
go Gibson. 

1374
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,900
I don't mind waiting on 
receiver. 

1375
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:39,900
This other guy options in Kansas
City. 

1376
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:41,300
Sorry, what were you saying? 
What was the other guy? 

1377
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,000
Maybe I Won't Say I'm in case he
comes back to us, okay. 

1378
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:50,600
What were you saying Davis? 
It's just this guy like weed, 

1379
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,800
these Justin Ross. 
Slappy's we had another we had 

1380
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,300
another Justin Ross sloppy like 
he's never going to play a snap 

1381
01:11:55,300 --> 01:11:58,600
in the NFL. 
White people got to stop enough.

1382
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,900
I just realized Washington is in
the NFC East so that was another

1383
01:12:03,900 --> 01:12:05,800
genius pick from us. 
Stack in the debate. 

1384
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,900
Thank you. 
I love raccoon growling our git 

1385
01:12:08,900 --> 01:12:09,900
act. 
Yeah. 

1386
01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:11,800
Hi T. 
Running back room where montre 

1387
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,900
David Montgomery AJ Dylan. 
A lot of, a lot of tea. 

1388
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:17,800
A lot of big big quads that 
quads. 

1389
01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:22,200
Well, is he or not? 
Or is your Madre a hero are be 

1390
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,500
40. 
R&B Burrows. 

1391
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,200
He's kind of in the middle, he's
not at the years ideas like 

1392
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,100
Jacobs or Derrick Henry, not at 
all. 

1393
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,000
Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry way
worse for this contest because 

1394
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,100
you only get him against the 
Texans twice. 

1395
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,600
So I was going to suggest Rashad
Penny as a guy that I just think

1396
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,300
has just massive single game. 
I mean we've seen it and we have

1397
01:12:45,300 --> 01:12:49,400
a slight bet on the Eagles here.
Yeah, I would smash that, I 

1398
01:12:49,407 --> 01:12:53,200
would go Penny because the point
I was going to start to bring up

1399
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,800
in, like we talked about all the
different Different strategy, 

1400
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,400
considerations for this 
tournament. 

1401
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,600
I do think like, for me the 
second one. 

1402
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,800
Honestly, after just pure, like 
structure would be, who are the 

1403
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:08,800
players that legitimately have 
like 30 point upside in a single

1404
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,500
week scenario? 
And I know you're not gonna be 

1405
01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:12,700
able to find those guys that 
every single portion of the 

1406
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:14,500
draft. 
But I do think some of the 

1407
01:13:14,508 --> 01:13:17,600
running backs in this range 
Penny specifically have that 

1408
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,700
upside like way more like 
thinking of like, I don't know, 

1409
01:13:21,700 --> 01:13:23,600
even Penny versus like a j. 
Dylan. 

1410
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:28,300
And I like both of these That's 
but it is a penny getting to 30 

1411
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:30,700
points at a higher frequency 
than AJ. 

1412
01:13:30,700 --> 01:13:33,400
Dillon is over like a simulation
of 1,000 games. 

1413
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:35,800
Probably yeah. 
Probably. 

1414
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,000
Yeah. 
But I think they both the point.

1415
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,200
Is they both on Pat? 
Like I think we've seen it. 

1416
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,600
If Aaron Jones goes down, I 
think Green Bay's comfortable 

1417
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,300
with AJ Dylan Workhorse back and
like he could fall into enough 

1418
01:13:46,300 --> 01:13:49,800
volume or it could happen. 
I'm just like the eagles 

1419
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,400
offense. 
That's where I break the tie 

1420
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,500
between those two guys is just 
like they both need some things 

1421
01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:57,500
to fall into place for it to 
work, but I just feel so much 

1422
01:13:57,500 --> 01:13:59,400
better with the Eagles offense 
then than Jordan. 

1423
01:14:02,500 --> 01:14:06,000
But I do like, I guess that is 
like, and I mean, we were kind 

1424
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,800
of having that conversation with
Keenan verse Tebow, right? 

1425
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,400
Where, and I think I have to be 
I have in my head, obviously, 

1426
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:13,700
right? 
Like, my biases of like, this 

1427
01:14:13,700 --> 01:14:16,400
guy has upside. 
This guy doesn't, but like, I do

1428
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,700
think being able to like 
quantify, like kind of like the 

1429
01:14:18,700 --> 01:14:21,400
bell curve like range of 
outcomes for these guys hitting 

1430
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,600
their 95th percentile ceiling 
and how frequently that occurs 

1431
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,600
like going back to our whole 
better and best ball joke from 

1432
01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:33,200
two years ago of like which of 
these guys because the 15 Weeks 

1433
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,400
like, that is very valuable and 
best Ball Mania for just get, it

1434
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,500
doesn't, it doesn't fucking 
matter in this. 

1435
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,600
Exactly. 
And so I'm saying, I think we 

1436
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:45,100
should be even tilting the ADP 
board even heavier in favor of 

1437
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:46,100
that. 
I just want to make sure you're 

1438
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:48,900
not making big mistakes because 
you're doing bro. 

1439
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:51,400
Science like this guy has more 
upside but it's like does he 

1440
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,100
actually? 
But with a guy like Penny I feel

1441
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:56,600
like we have enough of a track 
record to know that being the 

1442
01:14:56,608 --> 01:14:59,200
case. 
Yeah, I feel like honestly, 

1443
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,100
sometimes people Overlook just 
like it's like stupid analysis. 

1444
01:15:02,300 --> 01:15:04,100
No one wants to do it but it's 
like looking at a player's 

1445
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:07,000
history and seeing if they have 
done it like yes, I say it with 

1446
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,800
DeVante Parker, it's stupid to 
like read Devante Barker's box 

1447
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,100
scores like you feel like an 
idiot for doing it, but like 

1448
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,500
he's done. 
He's had huge weeks in the past.

1449
01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:17,400
Like, a lot of the guys. 
I pick 190 haven't like that. 

1450
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,400
Sounds like dumb analysis, but I
think it's like, sometimes 

1451
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,500
that's the best we can do, 
right? 

1452
01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:25,100
Like, if a guy's done it before,
it's a kind of means something. 

1453
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:29,000
To me, I love that Davis is 
doing his small cast met where 

1454
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,600
he has like a long side 
conversation in the chat, during

1455
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:32,100
the host. 
You're still. 

1456
01:15:32,300 --> 01:15:36,800
You about Justin Ross. 
The Justin Ross is really God's 

1457
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:39,700
you really, okay. 
The Chiefs have 19 wide 

1458
01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:43,800
receivers and and people just 
like, Richie, James, never mind.

1459
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,300
We don't need to, we don't need 
to do this this. 

1460
01:15:47,300 --> 01:15:50,500
Now Sam, we also find ourselves 
in another spot here where like 

1461
01:15:51,500 --> 01:15:54,500
there's no reason. 
I don't think we take DAC. 

1462
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:58,000
We've already made our bet but 
that he started to really fall 

1463
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,100
because no one else. 
No, you guys, you guys should 

1464
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:02,200
absolutely take that back. 
What are you? 

1465
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:08,400
I think at this point I would, 
I'm not sure about it does like,

1466
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:11,800
Hang on, but hang on real quick 
Sam. 

1467
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,400
Should we do McKinnon first and 
then, yeah. 

1468
01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:18,500
But Dave is this goes back to 
the thing. 

1469
01:16:18,700 --> 01:16:23,300
We don't want other outs, we are
building this team around 

1470
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,700
Mahomes being the top scorer and
we're going to benefit my guess,

1471
01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:30,900
my guess is, is that that's 
probably pretty wrong to do with

1472
01:16:30,900 --> 01:16:33,800
only two, only one out when you 
have a team roster spot. 

1473
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,900
So I guess my guess is is that 
Leone or someone is going to run

1474
01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:39,300
the math and be like just 
building it. 

1475
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:43,600
With one out is bad. 
I'd like, I see both sides of 

1476
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,100
it. 
But like Pete, don't you think 

1477
01:16:46,100 --> 01:16:47,800
this is like a very specific 
circumstances. 

1478
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:52,600
We've been betting on all NFC 
east teams like that, like DAC 

1479
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,300
is Fallin, like for I feel like 
in general, you're right. 

1480
01:16:55,300 --> 01:16:58,700
But like I think it reaches the 
point where I'm like look we 

1481
01:16:58,700 --> 01:17:01,800
only spent like what an 11th 
round pick on McKinnon and a 

1482
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,900
fifth-round pick on Tony like 
those guys. 

1483
01:17:04,900 --> 01:17:07,000
Here's what I would say, this is
where it's going to get 

1484
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,700
interesting. 
I would rather further Without 

1485
01:17:09,700 --> 01:17:14,800
our bet on Dallas with Michael 
Gallup here then taking DAC. 

1486
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,600
No no that's that's it has to be
wrong. 

1487
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,900
I would I would eat a CEO take 
her. 

1488
01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:22,100
She tries actually Oprah got 
one. 

1489
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:25,300
Yes, absolutely fine with that. 
I really I really don't, I think

1490
01:17:25,300 --> 01:17:27,000
Petey. 
I think people are getting way 

1491
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,300
too caught up on wanting to be 
live multiple weeks. 

1492
01:17:30,300 --> 01:17:33,400
In this tournament as opposed to
trying to win it one week now. 

1493
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,600
Go look at their tails, mr. 
Davis heater. 

1494
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,500
This is terrible, dude. 
I actually, I feel confident in 

1495
01:17:38,500 --> 01:17:41,000
this, that only. 
Building it only building it to 

1496
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:47,800
have good EV for one team for 
one group of players to spike 

1497
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,400
is, I mean, I just know for a 
fact, if you started to game out

1498
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,600
the EV that having the two 
chances at twenty thousand 

1499
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,900
dollars first place. 
Theoretically, instead of one on

1500
01:17:57,900 --> 01:18:00,700
a given week, you're going to be
much better because you're 

1501
01:18:00,700 --> 01:18:06,600
watering down both of those two 
Avenues chances for getting 

1502
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:11,100
there. 
I don't II disagree that, it's 

1503
01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:12,800
watering it down because the 
DAC. 

1504
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,500
Part is so key, and the McKinnon
part will be a very small key. 

1505
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:19,900
I mean what that part isn't key 
because Dak doesn't separate 

1506
01:18:19,900 --> 01:18:22,300
from the quarterback field when 
he hits. 

1507
01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:26,300
Well, I mean that's not true. 
If you look at the entirety of 

1508
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:28,900
his career now you could argue 
it's true in this context with 

1509
01:18:28,900 --> 01:18:31,200
McCarthy and Schottenheimer sure
I could. 

1510
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,500
Maybe I can maybe be swayed by 
that, but I'm saying let's take 

1511
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:37,700
micro stuff out of it man. 
A crow. 

1512
01:18:37,700 --> 01:18:39,700
Apply it. 
Would I rather have two 

1513
01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:43,900
quarterbacks three pass catchers
each or one quarterback. 

1514
01:18:43,900 --> 01:18:46,100
Five pass catchers with that. 
One quarterback or five 

1515
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,400
teammates. 
I would I would rather have the 

1516
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,200
two with three of their 
teammates as opposed to one with

1517
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,900
fibers teammates. 
Yeah, I think I think people see

1518
01:18:56,900 --> 01:19:00,400
I'm extremely confident this, we
and I'm the ACT. 

1519
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,100
We need Leone to run the 
numbers. 

1520
01:19:02,500 --> 01:19:06,800
Yeah, I think people are going 
to play this format way way too 

1521
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:07,500
scared. 
Davis. 

1522
01:19:07,500 --> 01:19:11,000
It's the same way of how many, 
how many 150 Max are in DFS 

1523
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,300
lock. 
A QB wide receiver stack, or a 

1524
01:19:13,300 --> 01:19:15,700
double stack and then, who would
out of their minds around? 

1525
01:19:15,700 --> 01:19:17,500
M, tell them Peter. 
They're, they're cowards. 

1526
01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:20,100
They just do, they have telling 
you, the compressor little 

1527
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:23,700
button on their computer? 
I think there's a point where, 

1528
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,400
like people like let's say 
you're the extreme like you're 

1529
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,900
not taking DAC and like round 
18. 

1530
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,400
Like, in this build, like I 
would you take it that far like,

1531
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,200
or is there a price at which on 
this build you would have taken 

1532
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,500
back? 
No, I think there is. 

1533
01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:43,700
I do think in the same way, like
I've taken Kyler Murray 40 picks

1534
01:19:43,700 --> 01:19:47,600
past ATP on a Jalen hurts team 
as my third quarterback, like I 

1535
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,100
will tilt it here, but when 
we're building up, we have such 

1536
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:53,700
an I'm glad you brought up Rashi
rice but we have such a big bet 

1537
01:19:53,900 --> 01:19:57,400
on Mahomes here into the 
Passover, like one of his 

1538
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,000
potential upside picks. 
Just make no sense. 

1539
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:03,000
I agree there, we needed. 
If she I think we should put 

1540
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,900
this, this argument is also 
suggesting another running back 

1541
01:20:06,900 --> 01:20:10,700
is going to be the quarterback 
one every week, which is will 

1542
01:20:10,700 --> 01:20:14,800
not happen. 
I would go probably algier for 

1543
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,200
the contingent upside or one of 
the Chicago backs. 

1544
01:20:17,900 --> 01:20:22,200
I was thinking of I really like 
the contingent value of algae or

1545
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,200
here, right? 
Because we do not care about any

1546
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,900
Standalone value, this isn't a 
scenario where Bijan Robinson 

1547
01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:30,800
gets her, the the the nine 
points that Devin Singletary, 

1548
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,700
grinds out, you know, especially
only a matter ABS. 

1549
01:20:33,700 --> 01:20:35,600
Yeah, matters, absolutely, not 
at all. 

1550
01:20:35,900 --> 01:20:38,200
I think, Davis were we 
fundamentally disagree? 

1551
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,800
I really think how massive this 
contest is and how hard it's 

1552
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,000
gonna be to finish. 
In the top ten, I really do not 

1553
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,600
think you should be worrying 
about, like, can I have a good 

1554
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,200
team this week and then yeah, I 
think I think that's very, I 

1555
01:20:50,208 --> 01:20:54,600
think that's very reductivist. 
I think that's very just live a 

1556
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,200
little type Vibes, like I think 
I think you want to have more, I

1557
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,400
think whatever the correct 
decision to add expected value 

1558
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,300
is is right. 
I'm pretty confident my side is 

1559
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:06,100
Right, obviously, I'm not a 
fucking mathematician, so I 

1560
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:10,900
could I could definitely be 
wrong, but I'm pretty confident 

1561
01:21:10,900 --> 01:21:14,600
that the Backward, I think 
having a grapple teammates. 

1562
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,500
I think we're trapped by our 
other best ball Drafting and 

1563
01:21:17,500 --> 01:21:19,700
it's very fun. 
And we're so used to getting 

1564
01:21:19,700 --> 01:21:22,100
multiple, quarterbacks, multiple
double Stacks, all that. 

1565
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:24,800
In the way these uncorrelated 
tournaments work in best Ball 

1566
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,300
Mania where you can like 
ping-pong back and forth and you

1567
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:29,700
don't need the 99th percentile 
outcome. 

1568
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,500
You just need like 80th 
percentile on those Stacks to 

1569
01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:33,900
get you through. 
In this you need the 

1570
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:36,500
tippity-top. 
You need the fucking nuts in the

1571
01:21:36,500 --> 01:21:39,600
milly maker to hit it here and I
think your capping, your nut 

1572
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:44,500
upside there, with, with the 
group, And 61,000, though it's 

1573
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:49,500
again I'm saying to yourselves 
members or I was gonna say mr. 

1574
01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:52,000
Jerome Ford, what do you like 
Gomez? 

1575
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:52,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1576
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,200
Let's do it. 
All right, and you can actually 

1577
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,300
stop on there. 
We can stop on Casey stuff that 

1578
01:21:57,300 --> 01:21:58,900
we got. 
We got Mom's triple stack now, 

1579
01:21:58,900 --> 01:22:02,300
right? 
It would only be if we wanted to

1580
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:06,400
to add a uniqueness pick in and 
round 18, but I think 

1581
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,100
structurally, we can stop. 
So, I did, yeah. 

1582
01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:10,600
I guess we're going one, 
quarterback, one side. 

1583
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,300
Then we could do like eight 
running backs and eight. 

1584
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,700
Wide receivers, I do that. 
So I want to say one thing on 

1585
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:17,000
you guys debate, because I think
it's interesting and I think 

1586
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,200
like, it is something that needs
to be simulated out because 

1587
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,600
like, I think it's really 
complicated but like I think 

1588
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:29,000
there is some element p 2 where 
you do want like two two outs 

1589
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,900
from quarterbacks and I'm not 
sure in our specific instance it

1590
01:22:31,900 --> 01:22:34,700
was Autumn. 
I'm not saying that but like in 

1591
01:22:34,700 --> 01:22:37,500
general you you're going to have
your two teams so you have two 

1592
01:22:37,500 --> 01:22:39,800
teams tax right. 
You're then going to have coal a

1593
01:22:39,808 --> 01:22:45,500
cohort of like 12 other players.
And when that like uncorrelated 

1594
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:48,400
cohort, that's not attached to 
your, your quarterback sacks 

1595
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,200
goes off. 
You also need your quarterback 

1596
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,100
sack to go off, right? 
And like, giving your son 

1597
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:58,700
yourself to chances at that 
quarterback sack going off, when

1598
01:22:58,700 --> 01:23:02,500
your other cohort goes off? 
Like I think there is something 

1599
01:23:02,500 --> 01:23:04,200
to that. 
Now, when you spend a second 

1600
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,400
round pick on my home's, maybe 
you say there's no point in 

1601
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,900
trying to gain that out, but it 
still is like, But we always 

1602
01:23:11,900 --> 01:23:14,100
talk about a better version or 
the teams, like this is a huge 

1603
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:17,100
tournament 200,000 teams but 
like the combinatorics of like, 

1604
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:21,400
18 individual players, like is 
still, like, No One's Gonna have

1605
01:23:21,700 --> 01:23:23,600
an identical team to you. 
No one. 

1606
01:23:23,700 --> 01:23:28,300
Nope, probably not even 10:00 
overlapping players, right? 

1607
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,900
Even, even even the 
combinatorics of ten overlapping

1608
01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:32,900
players, how often is that going
to happen? 

1609
01:23:32,900 --> 01:23:36,100
Like, they're like, I'm sure it 
will happen. 

1610
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:38,900
I'm sure someone could pull up 
an instance where you know, 

1611
01:23:38,900 --> 01:23:41,700
they're sitting there and 10 
players are duped, but even That

1612
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:47,500
is crazy and even getting into, 
how many teams have Dak? 

1613
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,700
CD Cooks, Gallup, Jake Ferguson 
or something. 

1614
01:23:51,700 --> 01:23:55,100
Even that number is way lower 
than your napkin math would 

1615
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:56,900
think. 
Because the combinatoric SAR 

1616
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:02,800
just so intense. 
The thing to I would maybe be a 

1617
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:07,300
little bit more open to with the
second quarterback is on the 

1618
01:24:07,300 --> 01:24:11,000
profile of the quarterback and 
what kind of upside they have? 

1619
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:15,200
I Do not think with DAC with how
little he runs that he has a lot

1620
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,200
of opportunities of separating 
from the rest of the quarterback

1621
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,400
field. 
So that's the point. 

1622
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,600
I think I can capture all the 
benefits of a Dak good season 

1623
01:24:23,900 --> 01:24:26,800
through his pass catchers. 
Now if we wanted to have the 

1624
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,800
argument of like okay Anthony 
Richardson falling and it's like

1625
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,800
he rips off a couple 50-yard 
touchdown runs like we saw from 

1626
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,600
feel the running that a running 
quarterback from open because 

1627
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,900
the running quarterbacks are 
different in your team to 

1628
01:24:37,900 --> 01:24:40,900
specifically because Richardson 
could be the highest scoring 

1629
01:24:40,900 --> 01:24:42,400
quarter. 
At any given week and not bring 

1630
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,100
any of his teammates with him. 
Andy optimal lineup. 

1631
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,500
So that makes it different. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1632
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,100
Yeah, we can still keep talking 
about. 

1633
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:52,800
I think it's interesting, like, 
people are saying in the chat. 

1634
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,300
This is literally the Crux of 
the contest like what were 

1635
01:24:55,300 --> 01:24:58,800
debating in like how you push it
is like, what the whole? 

1636
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,700
Why the contest is fun. 
Let's see here. 

1637
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,700
So like these Miami or the Carol
I like mostly? 

1638
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,500
Yeah, yeah. 
I like most heard a lot in this 

1639
01:25:10,500 --> 01:25:12,500
format do. 
You do you prefer him to Jeff 

1640
01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:13,800
Wilson? 
I like both but most are 

1641
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,100
probably more the home run, 
hitter. 

1642
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,600
Yeah, let's yeah. 
No starts fine. 

1643
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:21,100
I don't know the strong 
preference. 

1644
01:25:22,900 --> 01:25:27,200
So we're at 1671 build. 
This is like how my builds in 

1645
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,200
these least, my fast rap build 
last night and some of my slow 

1646
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:35,700
draft ones are shaping up. 
I think we're probably gonna 

1647
01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:37,500
more running backs in a wide 
receiver. 

1648
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,200
Yeah, I was thinking like a 
second tight end I think could 

1649
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,100
make some sense with Goddard 
because like we do talk about 

1650
01:25:45,100 --> 01:25:49,500
like delete deletes you price up
because when they separated so 

1651
01:25:49,500 --> 01:25:52,500
big but like there's weeks where
the tight end once. 

1652
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,800
Scores like 16 points and like I
don't know, I guess I don't want

1653
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,900
to like ghadir. 
It's going to have so many Duds 

1654
01:25:58,900 --> 01:26:02,400
this year like that, to be wanna
do. 

1655
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,700
I think I mean honestly like 
that's how I'm not opposed to 

1656
01:26:04,700 --> 01:26:06,800
itself. 
Yeah, I'm not opposed to a 

1657
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,300
second tight in this build and 
this would be where I would 

1658
01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:12,700
really want to be specific with 
like kind of the profiles, you 

1659
01:26:12,700 --> 01:26:13,700
know. 
We're targeting. 

1660
01:26:13,700 --> 01:26:16,200
Like I do like a sickie. 
I think he's like a 

1661
01:26:16,208 --> 01:26:19,800
two-touchdown type guy if you 
wanted to play a contingent bet 

1662
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,500
with like an Isaiah likely, and 
you're like, that's kind 

1663
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,900
Interesting to me as a second 
tight end you can. 

1664
01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:28,400
Maybe wait and grab it. 
Should we grab another running 

1665
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:29,600
back first? 
Like? 

1666
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,700
Yeah. 
I'd probably go like Hubbard. 

1667
01:26:32,700 --> 01:26:35,100
See, Pat? 
Jeff Wilson. 

1668
01:26:35,900 --> 01:26:38,300
I like Hubbard, just because I 
do think he could. 

1669
01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:41,800
What if Sanders gets hurt? 
Yeah, he's a good kid. 

1670
01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:51,000
He's pure condition. 
Um, Davis, what did you do here?

1671
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,500
Claypool. 
And I just, I'm just make a 

1672
01:26:54,508 --> 01:26:56,600
stacking the two quarterbacks 
that I have. 

1673
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,800
I have a running back with each 
of my quarterbacks. 

1674
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,800
I have a white two wide 
receivers with goth one wide 

1675
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:08,600
receiver with fields and then I 
have Commit and laporta with 

1676
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:10,300
with them as well. 
Yeah. 

1677
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,500
It. 
So I'm doing, I'm doing two 

1678
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:18,600
bites at the Apple. 
Yeah, it's really what other 

1679
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:23,200
what other ATP shifts? 
Do you guys think we might see 

1680
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,800
in in this contest relative to 
best ball mainly like we got our

1681
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,500
guy Millionaire karein right in 
Threads about Robert Woods out 

1682
01:27:29,500 --> 01:27:32,600
here like Rob would that was 
should be going undrafted and 

1683
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:37,400
this cop can we can we can we 
just the guy wins two million 

1684
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,300
dollars and the next thing you 
fucking know he's writing 

1685
01:27:40,300 --> 01:27:44,900
multi-pronged Dreads about a guy
who was like so unlikely to 

1686
01:27:44,900 --> 01:27:46,800
matter because he dropped the 
boys. 

1687
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:51,100
I mean it's really it's just I 
couldn't believe it, he he he I 

1688
01:27:51,108 --> 01:27:55,800
don't know man money money 
really changes you but I do 

1689
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,100
think like but it comes to my 
point with this contest, right? 

1690
01:27:58,100 --> 01:28:03,400
Like that kind of production 
Angeles in in this format to in 

1691
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,800
a lot of the stuff even when 
we're talking about the dead 

1692
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,100
roster spots, I do not give a 
fuck about dead roster spots in 

1693
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:11,500
this completely. 
Like I, yeah, like care about A 

1694
01:28:11,500 --> 01:28:14,400
best Ball Mania and you're not 
doing dumb stuff, right? 

1695
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,000
You're not taking Jameson 
Williams in the second round, 

1696
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,700
but Jameson Williams is way 
better for this contest and best

1697
01:28:20,700 --> 01:28:23,200
homemade of percent 100%. 
Yeah. 

1698
01:28:23,900 --> 01:28:25,400
I guess the dead roster spots 
saying the way. 

1699
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,300
I think about it as like when I 
get to the playoffs. 

1700
01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:34,200
Like I just like having the wide
receiver who sucks and all of 

1701
01:28:34,208 --> 01:28:37,500
his emission efficiency metrics 
are garbage but he's running 90%

1702
01:28:37,500 --> 01:28:40,100
of the routes and out there. 
I'm actually kind of excited 

1703
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:42,100
about getting that guy. 
Unlike the 17th or 18th round 

1704
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:44,400
because you could do the DeVante
Parker thing, could do the matte

1705
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,500
Collins thing, right? 
So, like, I guess I still care. 

1706
01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:49,000
I think, I still care about dead
roster spots. 

1707
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,000
Like, I don't, you want as many 
live I guess. 

1708
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,200
It is a little different because
like you only care about one 

1709
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,700
week and not consecutive zeros, 
zeros don't matter and like 

1710
01:28:58,700 --> 01:29:00,700
eight points and 12 points, 
don't matter. 

1711
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,500
At all. 
So it's just about it's just 

1712
01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:05,900
amount the amount of weeks each 
roster spot can produce, you 

1713
01:29:05,900 --> 01:29:09,200
know, 90th percentile, outcomes 
for whatever they are. 

1714
01:29:09,300 --> 01:29:13,000
Yeah, that's fair. 
I would probably Pete. 

1715
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,400
I'm probably thinking roster 
constructionwise like a running 

1716
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:21,600
back in a tight end here. 
Unless there's a wide receiver, 

1717
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,600
you really? 
I'm still in the Richie James on

1718
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,400
this team but he would be the 
only wide receiver I'd really 

1719
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:28,600
come. 
Yeah for me it would have to be 

1720
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,500
achieved wide receiver. 
Yes. 

1721
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,300
In this goes back to our 
conversation of like without 

1722
01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:38,000
Kelsey without Pacheco. 
I'm fine playing this through. 

1723
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,800
You know, a triple stack with 
the chief. 

1724
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,400
I kind of like James, I think. 
All right, look out, I'm open, 

1725
01:29:43,900 --> 01:29:47,000
Tony and Rise. 
Yeah, yeah, how would you guys 

1726
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,600
take my homes and not take 
James, dude, it's a must. 

1727
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,500
We just did and then I'm with 
you. 

1728
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:58,200
I if we have a tight end who we 
think has like legit upside, I'm

1729
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,600
down to do that. 
Otherwise I'm Fully on board 

1730
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,800
with a running back. 
Yeah, for me it would be like 

1731
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,100
mayor cuz the Chiefs will play 
the Raiders twice. 

1732
01:30:09,100 --> 01:30:11,400
So that's kind of interesting, I
guess. 

1733
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,500
No. 
Agretti is kind of Galaxy brain.

1734
01:30:13,500 --> 01:30:19,200
Interesting in a way. 
Where the running backs who 

1735
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,800
solve Jeff Wilson, Jeff Wilson 
still there. 

1736
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:26,100
This would be a spot. 
I mean, I like Jeff Wilson 

1737
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,900
Pierre, strong or kind of like I
would have, I think I would have

1738
01:30:30,900 --> 01:30:33,100
taken strong. 
I think all these contingent 

1739
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:36,900
value, guys are just so much 
better in this like because 10 

1740
01:30:36,900 --> 01:30:40,800
weeks of zeros from these guys 
matters, not at all if you get 

1741
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,900
two weeks where Samir white is 
the straight up starter or 

1742
01:30:44,900 --> 01:30:47,000
whoever. 
Yeah. 

1743
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:51,700
I would like to know. 
What do you really have three? 

1744
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,900
Real man takes Jody Fortson 
here. 

1745
01:30:55,900 --> 01:30:57,900
We're not doing that. 
Who do you want to talk about? 

1746
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:04,900
Give me give me mayor, okay. 
I just think there's something 

1747
01:31:04,900 --> 01:31:08,300
to like 11 mayor, I think has 
some some upside down the 

1748
01:31:08,300 --> 01:31:12,100
stretch and to like that I 
already said this point but like

1749
01:31:12,500 --> 01:31:16,300
if Mom in my home Spike weeks, 
if Dallas ghadir just like has 

1750
01:31:16,300 --> 01:31:18,400
his dogs which you will 
throughout the year like that 

1751
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,200
really hurts us. 
Like, I think we could still win

1752
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,200
this with like a 12 at tie down 
from Michael Mayer, right? 

1753
01:31:23,300 --> 01:31:26,400
And like giving ourselves that 
out I think is, is valuable 

1754
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,600
like, and that's the thing. 
Basically, every team can tell 

1755
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,900
themselves this, right? 
Because Titan is such a low 

1756
01:31:31,900 --> 01:31:34,200
scoring position is going. 
Like I was gonna say, There are 

1757
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,700
I think Sam you said it earlier,
right? 

1758
01:31:35,700 --> 01:31:37,700
Like there's going to be a week 
where the highest-scoring Titan 

1759
01:31:37,700 --> 01:31:42,100
is 16 points and you can be like
free for all week whoever is 

1760
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:44,600
separating at the other 
positions to take it. 

1761
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:46,800
Yeah. 
Where's we will have like if 

1762
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,700
Kyle pits drops like a 30 burger
like it's going to be Kyle pits 

1763
01:31:49,700 --> 01:31:50,800
week. 
It's going to be who built the 

1764
01:31:50,808 --> 01:31:53,700
best team around, file pits. 
You know how when you finish a 

1765
01:31:53,708 --> 01:31:56,000
best Ball Mania, three, draft 
and sometimes you're like this 

1766
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,100
team is just cannot win. 
Like it just it can't this team 

1767
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:00,400
is not winning a million 
dollars. 

1768
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,300
I think, every single person who
drafts a weekly winners is like,

1769
01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:05,500
well, you know, No, you no, you 
no. 

1770
01:32:05,500 --> 01:32:08,500
You just, you just don't know. 
Like, maybe maybe the kind of 

1771
01:32:08,500 --> 01:32:12,800
the exact combination of players
you need in weekend, like, it's 

1772
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:18,300
after doing this. 
Once it's an extremely I got 

1773
01:32:18,300 --> 01:32:20,200
this is an addicting draft 
format for sure. 

1774
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1775
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:25,800
And that's what the other Zack 
says, having different opinions 

1776
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:27,900
makes these shows so much more 
informative because the reality 

1777
01:32:27,900 --> 01:32:31,800
is none of us really won't know 
what's viable until 23 years of 

1778
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,300
this 31st. 
I mean, it Dave, and I like 

1779
01:32:34,500 --> 01:32:37,500
completely think about this 
tournament differently which is 

1780
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,100
the goal of this tournament, 
right? 

1781
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:41,600
Like the whole thing that's fun 
and I always said, like with 

1782
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:45,900
best of all Mania with how the 
prizes are tilted in week 17, 

1783
01:32:45,900 --> 01:32:49,100
like your kind of, if you're not
building for that in mind, 

1784
01:32:49,300 --> 01:32:51,900
everyone should basically 
building similarly or relatively

1785
01:32:51,900 --> 01:32:55,200
similar in this you can someone 
can go be like I'm going to try 

1786
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:56,900
to win week 5 like if that's 
your goal. 

1787
01:32:56,900 --> 01:33:00,800
Yes, you can build really good, 
be five teams and then if we had

1788
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,200
10 people in the draft all doing
different things, Why all of a 

1789
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,400
sudden, you see like a Michael 
Pittman fall are right? 

1790
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,100
Because like everyone's doing 
their own thing. 

1791
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:11,800
Ignoring this guy, I think maybe
seeing big ATP fallers. 

1792
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,400
That feel weird is maybe a 
testament to people all trying 

1793
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,300
to accomplish different things 
in these drafts. 

1794
01:33:17,900 --> 01:33:19,800
Yeah, my first reaction from 
that too. 

1795
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:24,100
Is I feel like Invest while many
others like a couple tiebreakers

1796
01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:26,800
I have in mind but there's like 
not that many of them, right? 

1797
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,300
It sounds like but none of them 
apply here. 

1798
01:33:29,500 --> 01:33:30,900
Yeah. 
But none of them fire. 

1799
01:33:30,900 --> 01:33:33,600
But here also, I feel like 
there's like a million on every 

1800
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:34,900
pic. 
You could be like our the bye 

1801
01:33:34,900 --> 01:33:36,900
week stacked up. 
Is it a divisional guy? 

1802
01:33:36,900 --> 01:33:39,700
Are they playing each other? 
There's like, yeah, infinite 

1803
01:33:39,700 --> 01:33:41,300
Spike. 
We are it's not swiping the 

1804
01:33:41,300 --> 01:33:44,000
infinite tiebreakers for these 
pics. 

1805
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,700
Like it's it's a little 
overwhelming, but it's a really 

1806
01:33:46,700 --> 01:33:51,100
interesting format. 
Yeah, I mean Pi 100%. 

1807
01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:54,000
See what you're saying in this 
specific circumstance. 

1808
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:58,300
Like with the Mahomes Alan hurts
whatever round two and and I 

1809
01:33:58,300 --> 01:34:00,600
would have to I would have to 
think more deeply about that 

1810
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,300
like does so you have Mahomes 
and your opponent has t Higgins 

1811
01:34:04,300 --> 01:34:07,700
or to Bob to Smith or whatever. 
So like how much of a projection

1812
01:34:07,700 --> 01:34:12,300
disadvantage are you wet? 
But I do think building a team 

1813
01:34:12,300 --> 01:34:14,500
with multiple outside. 
I don't think it's waving the 

1814
01:34:14,500 --> 01:34:17,200
White Flag. 
I don't think it's playing for 

1815
01:34:17,500 --> 01:34:20,400
men caches. 
I do think it is just giving 

1816
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,300
yourself. 
I think it's providing a wider 

1817
01:34:23,300 --> 01:34:27,000
surface area to 90th percentile 
outcomes, taking two 

1818
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,300
quarterbacks with multiples of 
their teammates in. 

1819
01:34:29,300 --> 01:34:32,300
I'm not even a disagree on the 
90th but we need 99.9%. 

1820
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:35,900
I'll outcome in this contest, 
that's what I'm pushing. 

1821
01:34:35,900 --> 01:34:38,000
It's the same thing. 
Like when we talk about like 

1822
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,400
running back and quarterback 
pairings right where it's like, 

1823
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,600
I think that's like pretty good 
for the regular season and 

1824
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,300
probably even pretty good of 
ping-ponging you to the big 17 

1825
01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:49,400
finals, but then as we saw like 
with pats lineup, like Berkeley 

1826
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,900
didn't hit his lineup because 
Daniel Jones went If like in 

1827
01:34:51,900 --> 01:34:54,800
that really top and thing, those
guys are going to be negatively 

1828
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,400
correlated and I just want every
fucking bullet I can at a non 

1829
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,000
Mahomes position to try to build
my home. 

1830
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,200
Super teams. 
I think it's really understand 

1831
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:07,500
what that Berkeley point is. 
Like, we have proof that you can

1832
01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:10,900
win, best Ball Mania with your 
round to pick counting for 

1833
01:35:10,900 --> 01:35:14,300
nothing and week. 17. 
Can you have a good day? 

1834
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,300
Have a good week 16 either? 
Yeah. 

1835
01:35:16,300 --> 01:35:17,500
Can't. 
But yeah. 

1836
01:35:17,500 --> 01:35:19,400
The question is, like, can you 
win one of these weekly 

1837
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,300
tournaments with like your first
round? 

1838
01:35:21,500 --> 01:35:24,100
Like your second round pick not 
counting like that's gonna, I 

1839
01:35:24,100 --> 01:35:25,600
think it would be really 
interesting to see is like the 

1840
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,700
teams that win this. 
And I think the answer is. 

1841
01:35:27,700 --> 01:35:31,400
Yes, you can, but like more like
less like so when more likely to

1842
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,400
win this than best Ball Mania, I
think. 

1843
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:34,900
Right. 
Or do you disagree? 

1844
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,300
I was going to say, less likely 
just because like best Almighty 

1845
01:35:37,300 --> 01:35:40,300
of once you get to the finals, 
which only 450 people or 

1846
01:35:40,300 --> 01:35:43,700
whatever and like the ownership 
is so skewed. 

1847
01:35:43,700 --> 01:35:47,200
Like once you get there like 
Mike Evans would have been on 

1848
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,800
the optimal roster but he was 
only on like, two teams like he 

1849
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,900
didn't actually matter. 
Whereas In this tournament every

1850
01:35:52,900 --> 01:35:55,800
player is 8% or every meaningful
players eight percent owned, 

1851
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,200
right? 
So like you can't get away with 

1852
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,800
like having a Super Sub optimal 
lineup because of that, but 

1853
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,600
like, let's say, let's say a 
second round pick gets injured, 

1854
01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:08,000
right? 
Let's say let's say, say Quan 

1855
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:12,900
gets injured. 
How many like what would that 

1856
01:36:12,900 --> 01:36:14,700
decree? 
So if you have 17 other active 

1857
01:36:14,700 --> 01:36:17,900
players and sake, one's injured,
how much does that? 

1858
01:36:17,900 --> 01:36:21,100
Decrease, your weekly Equity? 
Like not that way. 

1859
01:36:21,500 --> 01:36:23,100
Name that one? 
Yes. 

1860
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:25,400
If you're losing your second 
round, pick in this weekly 

1861
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,600
winners format you are. 
I don't want to say drawing dead

1862
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,300
because anything is impossible, 
but you are so much more dead in

1863
01:36:31,300 --> 01:36:32,700
this than you are in best. 
Ball Mania. 

1864
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:37,300
Losing a second-round pick. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1865
01:36:37,300 --> 01:36:39,500
It's weird though, right? 
Because, like, I have to think 

1866
01:36:39,500 --> 01:36:40,800
about that more before we want. 
Okay. 

1867
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:46,000
So what is the average, the 
average Max of every pick in the

1868
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,900
second round on a weekly basis. 
Like on average, it says 

1869
01:36:48,900 --> 01:36:52,400
somebody in the second round is 
going to put up like a T-50 30 

1870
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:53,600
burger, right? 
Sure. 

1871
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,000
Seemed like that's, you need to 
find out if your second on pick 

1872
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,200
is dead. 
You gotta find a way to make 

1873
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,000
that up. 
I don't think it's a pot. 

1874
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,400
Like, Pete. 
If you need to modify Parker at 

1875
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:03,800
the 17th round, not to say him 
again. 

1876
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,100
And he has this huge. 
We can't. 

1877
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:08,000
You like make up for that kind 
of I guess. 

1878
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,300
Like other teams. 
I don't know. 

1879
01:37:09,700 --> 01:37:13,100
Maybe we'll be back over. 
Is the uniqueness element, 

1880
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:15,100
right? 
That's, that's what that's what 

1881
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:15,900
it is. 
Yeah. 

1882
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:21,000
But maybe in maybe this is 
another thing to, um, you know, 

1883
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,300
we talk about like, when it gets
closer to the end up best Ball 

1884
01:37:23,300 --> 01:37:25,800
Mania season. 
Like, starting to really try to 

1885
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,000
draft some late round picks that
aren't drafted. 

1886
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,200
In like, you know, more than 10%
of drafts. 

1887
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,500
I think we probably need to 
start pushing that. 

1888
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,900
Even in this contest here of 
like, you got your rotating 

1889
01:37:35,900 --> 01:37:37,500
every time. 
Yeah. 

1890
01:37:37,700 --> 01:37:40,700
And starting to look at, and we 
can use maybe some of those like

1891
01:37:40,700 --> 01:37:43,200
badge, bro, sheets to for 
looking at percentages, guys are

1892
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,800
drafted, but it's like having a 
unique guy that man. 

1893
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,300
Collins are Davis way, you took 
Josh Reynolds, like the guy who 

1894
01:37:50,500 --> 01:37:54,500
goes off that's on 5%, like that
is going to be and that's how 

1895
01:37:54,500 --> 01:37:56,300
people take down the battle 
royales, right? 

1896
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:59,400
It's that one-off piece, that 
isn't drafted in those six 

1897
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,100
rounds, that is the differential
that was my thought with 

1898
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:05,600
Reynolds was like, Marvin Jones 
will get drafted 80% of the time

1899
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,000
on golf teams, but Reynolds 
probably 20% of the time. 

1900
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:12,100
And I think that has way more 
value in this format. 

1901
01:38:12,100 --> 01:38:15,400
Then it doesn't best Ball Mania.
Because best Ball Mania, you 

1902
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:19,100
just need guys who are get your 
Who are not zeros right this, it

1903
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:21,600
doesn't really matter. 
I think you have much more 

1904
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,500
freedom with your laid around 
picks in this because your 

1905
01:38:24,500 --> 01:38:29,700
median expectation of return 
from those pics is so much 

1906
01:38:29,700 --> 01:38:30,300
smaller. 
Right? 

1907
01:38:30,300 --> 01:38:32,800
Because if they don't need to 
contribute that often. 

1908
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:37,300
Yeah, it's like I was just gonna
say one other point about all 

1909
01:38:37,300 --> 01:38:42,100
this too it also has to do with 
if you are going to get true 

1910
01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:45,900
sweat entertainment Equity out 
of this to Davis's Point like 

1911
01:38:45,900 --> 01:38:48,600
having your Act double stack in 
your Mahomes double stack. 

1912
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:50,400
You're going to get more Sweat, 
Equity out of it. 

1913
01:38:50,500 --> 01:38:53,000
It's almost similar to like in 
DFS. 

1914
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,200
If you lock button a stack it's 
like my entire sweat is wrapped 

1915
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,300
up in the single stack and if 
it's done, right? 

1916
01:38:58,300 --> 01:39:01,300
You have more outs to sweating. 
I just think you're probably 

1917
01:39:01,300 --> 01:39:05,100
hurting your just, Uber 
percentile outcomes by doing it.

1918
01:39:05,100 --> 01:39:07,600
But again, the whole point of 
this too, is going to be fun to 

1919
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,100
sweat. 
It is going to be really fun to 

1920
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:12,400
pull up on a Monday or a Sunday 
evening be like, do I have a 

1921
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:17,100
team with a prayer to finish in 
the top ten here if you have 50 

1922
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:19,600
bullets that you have, you know,
two stacks on each. 

1923
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,700
One of those, you have 300 
different Stacks, you get to 

1924
01:39:21,708 --> 01:39:25,100
build around each week to sweat.
Like that's legitimately fun. 

1925
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,100
I think to going back to the DFS
thing. 

1926
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:30,800
And again, these aren't always 
perfect comparisons but like one

1927
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:34,000
thing, I think we should push 
back on that because it is not 

1928
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,400
it's not the same thing as 
playing, the spy on DraftKings 

1929
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,300
or even The Millionaire Maker 
undertakings because of the 

1930
01:39:38,300 --> 01:39:41,000
replace ability there is but 
there is more. 

1931
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:44,400
I think it's more analogous to 
that to playing DFS than it is 

1932
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,800
to try to win best Ball Mania. 
Yes, I agree. 

1933
01:39:46,900 --> 01:39:49,300
I agree, but I was big. 
Yeah, Fest point. 

1934
01:39:49,300 --> 01:39:51,500
I was going to make and then I I
was the one that said I was 

1935
01:39:51,500 --> 01:39:54,200
going to keep this a tight 90 
and then the ATP gravitation, 

1936
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,500
it's just, it's this, it's just 
the show. 

1937
01:39:56,500 --> 01:39:58,600
You can't get out of here. 
I want to get their points. 

1938
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,600
And I was just gonna say like 
again with the exposure thing 

1939
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,200
and how you build a portfolio, 
like a lot of times, like Brian 

1940
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,700
says in his exposure shets. 
If he's running a 150 set and he

1941
01:40:08,700 --> 01:40:12,800
has like 15 percent Mahomes and 
like 2% deck and 2% off. 

1942
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:16,300
He'll just acts the golf ball to
Merced them all because being 

1943
01:40:16,300 --> 01:40:19,300
like, For this slate to go, I'd 
rather have more combinations 

1944
01:40:19,300 --> 01:40:23,300
around the bigger stand. 
I'm making than to be Feathering

1945
01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:25,200
in like the second option. 
Well, what if that goes off 

1946
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,600
well, it's like well then the 
people who have way more DAC or 

1947
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,400
a built more intentionally 
around Dak. 

1948
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,400
I think are going to have better
teams than you. 

1949
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:33,900
That would be my point. 
I think that's the illusion of 

1950
01:40:33,900 --> 01:40:35,900
control, though. 
I think, I think that's the 

1951
01:40:35,900 --> 01:40:39,600
human brain wanting to believe 
that it has some control over 

1952
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,800
the events like to actually take
a lesson from David kitchen 

1953
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:46,000
here. 
Like you don't, you don't know 

1954
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:50,400
if Did you just read few bricks,
75s point with a, David kitchen 

1955
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,700
aphorism, a word that we 
replies? 

1956
01:40:52,700 --> 01:40:58,200
I did I did no, but because it 
is, it is the way, the order of 

1957
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,100
operations, that our brain has, 
for these things. 

1958
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:03,900
Is that, is that moms is always 
going to outscore DAC, right? 

1959
01:41:03,900 --> 01:41:06,600
That, that's where that's the 
priority of this conversation. 

1960
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,900
Is that every single week mom's 
is going to be projected for 

1961
01:41:08,900 --> 01:41:12,200
more points than Dak. 
So taking DAC, feels useless 

1962
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,800
because we can't foresee an 
outcome or DAC has multiple 

1963
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,200
weeks of scoring more points. 
Points them homes, but we know 

1964
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,300
if we just look at the 
probability distribution, like 

1965
01:41:21,300 --> 01:41:24,100
that will happen and has 
happened in real NFL games that 

1966
01:41:24,100 --> 01:41:27,200
we've seen. 
I don't know, maybe, maybe I'm 

1967
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:29,600
questioning it now, but that, 
that's how I'm seeing it in, 

1968
01:41:29,700 --> 01:41:31,700
that's how I'm saying. 
And also, the other thing is at 

1969
01:41:31,700 --> 01:41:34,400
quarterback is you don't you 
don't need the nuts, right? 

1970
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:38,500
Even in even in 261,000, or 
whatever you don't need the nuts

1971
01:41:38,500 --> 01:41:40,400
at quarterback, the nuts at wide
receiver. 

1972
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,100
It's more important which I 
guess is a point in your favor. 

1973
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,800
Yeah, I think the other thing to
remember too is like, I don't 

1974
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,500
know. 
We I think Over focus on like 

1975
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,600
wasting pick one up wasting tax 
of quarterback and wasting tax a

1976
01:41:51,608 --> 01:41:54,400
tight end. 
When in reality, like there's 

1977
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,900
eight starting spots. 
So, once you're getting two 

1978
01:41:56,900 --> 01:42:00,300
round nine, that means you're 
like quote-unquote betting 

1979
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:04,300
against one of your round 13, 
picks to not be in your starting

1980
01:42:04,300 --> 01:42:06,100
lineup, right? 
Like you're going to waste. 

1981
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,700
Once you've taken your fifth 
wide receiver, you're betting 

1982
01:42:08,700 --> 01:42:10,500
that one of the wide receivers 
you took in the first four 

1983
01:42:10,500 --> 01:42:11,800
rounds is knocking at your 
starting with. 

1984
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:16,500
So like, you always have like 
more pics than are actually 

1985
01:42:16,500 --> 01:42:18,400
going to hit. 
Your starting lineup, I kind of 

1986
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,900
get why at quarterback. 
We should be extra careful about

1987
01:42:20,900 --> 01:42:23,700
that, but like let's not pretend
that like we're not doing that 

1988
01:42:23,700 --> 01:42:26,400
at every position once we're in 
the double digits, that's a 

1989
01:42:26,407 --> 01:42:27,900
great saying. 
That's a great point. 

1990
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:29,200
I would not have thought of it 
that way. 

1991
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:35,200
Yeah, I I think my big like put 
it on a throw pillow like live a

1992
01:42:35,208 --> 01:42:38,600
little for this is just like the
drafting like you're right. 

1993
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,500
Ethos is so even more pronounced
in this one. 

1994
01:42:44,300 --> 01:42:47,100
But and it again this is why I'm
so excited because to Really 

1995
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:49,100
even dive into this more because
we barely even scratched the 

1996
01:42:49,108 --> 01:42:52,000
surface of what we got. 
We got like two minutes and we 

1997
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,100
got like two percent into this. 
This this tournament is sick 

1998
01:42:55,100 --> 01:42:58,100
like part of me like wishes. 
We had a full summer of just 

1999
01:42:58,100 --> 01:43:01,900
like talking and thinking about 
this contest because I do think,

2000
01:43:02,300 --> 01:43:03,500
I don't know, I could even see 
it. 

2001
01:43:03,500 --> 01:43:07,000
Somehow surpassing best ball 
manias like, well, what anything

2002
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:10,600
to discuss my idea. 
Was you make it, you you add an 

2003
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:13,300
even gnarlier wrinkle to it 
which is that you kind of do the

2004
01:43:13,308 --> 01:43:15,700
reverse of what they did with 
this whole Mania where most of 

2005
01:43:15,700 --> 01:43:19,500
the prize money, Is in the 
weekly winners but you add a 

2006
01:43:19,500 --> 01:43:23,900
million dollars or 500,000 to 
disperse and have it be a best 

2007
01:43:23,900 --> 01:43:25,100
Ball Mania? 
You know, habit? 

2008
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:26,600
Yeah. 
Season long tournament as well. 

2009
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:30,200
We're layer that on top as well.
Yeah, that because that is 

2010
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,900
almost The Perfect Blend of, you
know, needing to pick the right 

2011
01:43:33,900 --> 01:43:35,400
players. 
Get the commutator. 

2012
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,800
Like it just that that scene 
basically, amazing you took. 

2013
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,500
I agree it. 
So, instead of having the 

2014
01:43:40,500 --> 01:43:43,300
regular season prizes as is 
where it's like 500,000 or 

2015
01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:47,800
whatever you distribute that 
over the, what for 14 weeks, 

2016
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,900
even or whatever. 
Yeah, and that Weekly payouts 

2017
01:43:50,900 --> 01:43:53,800
for that, but then all of that. 
So you would have people 

2018
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,800
optimizing for that. 
Yeah, I'll still gunning for the

2019
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,200
better. 
Evie top, prize week, 17, that 

2020
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:03,600
would be, that would be the true
melding of the game formats. 

2021
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:08,000
Yeah I love that idea or does 
the guy hires higher Stakes 

2022
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,600
lower entry version of this 
would also be sweet. 

2023
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,300
Like if you could do like a 
thousand that they will, they 

2024
01:44:13,300 --> 01:44:15,300
will, they will do that. 
Yeah. 

2025
01:44:15,300 --> 01:44:17,200
Mark, mark my words that's going
to be Coming. 

2026
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:18,900
I don't know. 
But 100%. 

2027
01:44:18,900 --> 01:44:20,300
That'll. 
I would think that has to be 

2028
01:44:20,300 --> 01:44:21,700
coming. 
Yeah. 

2029
01:44:21,700 --> 01:44:24,600
Anyways, Pizzeria wrap wrap this
up. 

2030
01:44:24,608 --> 01:44:26,800
Yeah, land that land the plane, 
you're the host, but I'm just 

2031
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,400
the one gently nudging you to 
Landon. 

2032
01:44:28,900 --> 01:44:30,600
Okay, I forgot. 
It was those this one. 

2033
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:36,300
Yeah, let's see. 
I got nothing else going on this

2034
01:44:36,300 --> 01:44:38,000
week. 
I'll be back next week for free 

2035
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:42,000
to PJs and I think we have oh 
yeah I do want to note this next

2036
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,500
week, Matt Harmon of reception 
perception and Yahoo is going to

2037
01:44:44,508 --> 01:44:48,100
be joining us on ATP. 
Chasing that Really cool never 

2038
01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:50,000
talked to him. 
He's obviously does really 

2039
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,800
interesting wide receiver 
charting stuff that I think adds

2040
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,700
an extra element to some of the 
wide receiver analysis. 

2041
01:44:56,700 --> 01:45:00,200
So it'll be really cool to have 
him on the show and break down 

2042
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,700
some of the mid-range and late 
rain late, round wide receiver 

2043
01:45:02,700 --> 01:45:05,500
targets. 
So wanted to note that big show 

2044
01:45:05,500 --> 01:45:08,800
next week, Davis, what do you 
what do you have got going on 

2045
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,100
this week? 
I'm just getting back from 

2046
01:45:11,100 --> 01:45:13,400
vacation so I don't know. 
I know I got a lot of work to do

2047
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,900
this week but I haven't really 
started structuring What's 

2048
01:45:16,900 --> 01:45:21,300
happening in my work week so you
want to address it cam Akers. 

2049
01:45:21,300 --> 01:45:23,300
Can't be this year's Josh Jacobs
gate. 

2050
01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:27,100
Yeah pitching go viral. 
I'll just always say the 

2051
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:33,500
opposite of whatever Dave just 
said they literally Dave could 

2052
01:45:33,500 --> 01:45:35,900
be like Patrick Mahomes is the 
greatest quarterback of all time

2053
01:45:35,900 --> 01:45:37,800
and I'll be like, dude, he 
doesn't even have as many Super 

2054
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:48,200
Bowls just thought well yeah I 
just screamed my 75th Basketball

2055
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,400
Mania draft over on my channel 
and easy from the deposit 

2056
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:54,400
Kingdom hopped on and Co piloted
with his very cool. 

2057
01:45:54,500 --> 01:45:57,400
Correlations spreadsheets, so 
check that out. 

2058
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:02,000
No shows tomorrow, no ship 
chasing on Wednesday, everybody 

2059
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,000
is out. 
So this is your Flagship chasing

2060
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,800
show this week and then 
Wednesday because Millionaire 

2061
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:10,900
Maker crane is out. 
I'm having high low from one 

2062
01:46:10,900 --> 01:46:14,100
week season, fill his spot and 
then Sean will be drafting with 

2063
01:46:14,100 --> 01:46:18,000
me in the second slot on Okay, 
so those are those are my main 

2064
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:21,200
things. 
Beautiful, awesome! 

2065
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:23,700
Great! 
Oh, and we are, we are doing, we

2066
01:46:23,700 --> 01:46:26,500
are doing, we are doing a soil 
cast this week. 

2067
01:46:26,500 --> 01:46:31,500
So be there for p therefore that
on Wednesday, drafting, right 

2068
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:35,300
drafting. 
All Summer Long, baby all summer

2069
01:46:35,300 --> 01:46:37,800
long. 
All right I will do I'll do it 

2070
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,900
too because for to help Lex and 
make sure you guys are 

2071
01:46:39,900 --> 01:46:42,500
following. 
Sam on Twitter is link is down 

2072
01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:44,100
below. 
Sam's been doing an awesome job 

2073
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:46,200
on ATP. 
Chasing, appreciate all your 

2074
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:47,800
work. 
You know, we do a lot of shows 

2075
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:50,200
around here with like zero prep 
work and so just having one 

2076
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:51,900
person make some charts for a 
show. 

2077
01:46:51,900 --> 01:46:54,900
Just feels like it's you know 
production through the roof. 

2078
01:46:54,900 --> 01:46:57,700
So thank you, Sam. 
Appreciate that babe. 

2079
01:46:58,100 --> 01:47:01,600
Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. 
And yeah, we'll be here for the 

2080
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,300
rest of the summer. 
It's only, it's only July 3rd, 

2081
01:47:03,300 --> 01:47:09,200
we got another eight or nine. 
Atpg got Yo you've got roughly 

2082
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,500
six. 
I think it's 68 days left to get

2083
01:47:11,500 --> 01:47:13,100
all your team's drafted. 
I am. 

2084
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:17,000
I've started doing slow drafts 
because I am not going to get. 

2085
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:18,200
I'm not going to get all the way
there. 

2086
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:22,200
So I've started doing slows. 
Its let us know and kids. 

2087
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,800
Let us know in the comments do 
because opinions are all over 

2088
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,600
the board on this week. 
Maybe something like, give us 

2089
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,600
like the top two things, you 
guys are prioritizing in this 

2090
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,100
contest in the comments as far 
as like the structure, the 

2091
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:37,400
divisional, stuff player, 
archetypes all that different 

2092
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,200
stuff. 
I'm curious where everyone Falls

2093
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,000
because it does really seem like
everyone's all over the map on 

2094
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,000
this. 
All right. 

2095
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,200
Yeah, I'm gonna power this down.
Thank you for hanging out with 

2096
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:50,300
us on the third. 
Thank you to Sam to Davis to the

2097
01:47:50,300 --> 01:47:52,100
chat. 
Thank you to Underdog for giving

2098
01:47:52,100 --> 01:47:55,200
us a fun New contest to chew on.
Hope you guys all have a 

2099
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,800
wonderful forth Of July, we will
see you guys back next week on 

2100
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,900
this channel. 
Next show will be a teepee 

2101
01:48:00,900 --> 01:48:03,300
chasing with Matt Harmon a week 
from today will see you guys 

2102
01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:03,600
then.