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Hello everybody and welcome to 
week 13. 

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That's a chasing joined tonight 
by peep 744 Draco. 

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And yeah, we have a interesting 
slate of games to discuss from 

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this past week had my quite step
in for the Jets and really make 

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that offense look explosive. 
We had Sam Donald maybe breathe 

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some life into the value of DJ 
more and we also have the Sean 

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Watson's return looming in week,
13 and Cleveland. 

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So a lot of interesting 
situations discuss Pete. 

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Thanks for joining me tonight. 
Yeah, you know, you know, Draco,

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big shoes to fill. 
I thought about trying to do an 

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Irish accent for the next, you 
know, six years so minutes. 

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But you know, I'm I'm getting 
weak in my old age and I don't 

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have that kind of bit commitment
it me but excited to check out 

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the charts. 
Do some Battle Royale drafts and

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love. 
What you and Rick we've been 

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doing with the show this year 
and happy to hop on. 

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Awesome. 
Yeah. 

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And as Pete mentioned, we're 
gonna do what Connor, and I 

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normally do it will go through 
all the stats from the past 

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week. 
Taco talk about key situations 

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and then we'll probably go 
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A little bit quicker than normal
and then do some Battle Royale 

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drafts, then Underdog. 
So for all of you joining that's

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what what you can expect today. 
So yeah. 

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Without further Ado, why don't 
we jump into the data? 

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So So high. 
I love the. 

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Are you? 
First of all? 

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Are you, are you watching White 
Lotus? 

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Are you a fan? 
Yeah, I've been pretty addicted 

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to it. 
This, this new season. 

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I think I was listening to you 
and Davis or somebody discuss 

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White Lotus and one of your 
shows and I'm fully hooked. 

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I like the season even better 
than season one. 

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I'm the same way. 
It's really good. 

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We won't, we won't derail this 
too much but I do just want to 

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acknowledge the the nod to my 
quite which I appreciate their 

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also an incredible Survivor 
contestant as well. 

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Like white. 
Yeah. 

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And isn't the name of the 
director actually, my quite for 

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the White Lotus. 
I think it is. 

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No, yeah, that I assume. 
That's why you were doing it. 

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Yeah. 
Mike. 

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White was, he's the director. 
But he also appeared on Survivor

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and was a very Savvy player so 
he has quite the resume. 

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Yeah, yeah, really accomplished 
name there. 

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But yeah, anyways, let's let's 
start with talking about my 

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quite so just for people falling
along this chart were looking at

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quarterback passing efficiency. 
See and rushing production, we 

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have touchdown rate on the 
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percentage of throws where you 
get a touchdown and then 

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adjusted yards per attempt on 
the x axis, which is yards per 

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attempt, but adjusted for 
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And yeah, it's obviously a 
one-week sample size. 

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But my quite is just an extreme 
outlier on this chart. 

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He's way far to the right with a
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Now, the second Best quarterback
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would be to just under 10. 
So really an extreme outlier in 

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his one week sample thus far. 
But I think we do have a little 

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bit bigger of a sample of my 
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From last year where I think I 
think I heard a stat were two 

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out of his four starts this 
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He's been over like 20 for 
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early in his career. 
So he flashed a little bit last 

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year yappy. 
Curious, what? 

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You think about my quite as a 
streamer and then maybe your 

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thoughts on how it affects the 
rest of the Jets? 

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Yeah, I think initially, you 
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is it? 
How much of it is? 

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Zach Wilson, just being so bad. 
And then how much of it was my 

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quite, you know, performing 
well. 

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And then you also have to 
untangle how much of it was the 

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Bears secondary being really 
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slice it. 
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impressive and I also know last 
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Everyone's like, oh, he's gonna 
check down a ton to Michael 

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Carter. 
I know Lord Reeves on Twitter at

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pointed out. 
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checked down to the running 
backs a ton is because he didn't

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have any good wide receivers, it
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last year. 
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who looks like probably the most
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this class which is saying a lot
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good. 
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time untangling, like what we 
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forecasting perspective. 
I mean how are you? 

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Feeling about him going into 
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who secondary just got lit up by
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Yeah, II think I'm tentatively 
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like I'm not someone who does 
rankings, but I think with the 

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buys and all of that, I would be
putting him sort of high-end 

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quarterback to range, and I'm in
some leagues, more like sort of 

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on a tangent. 
I'm in some leagues where even 

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one quarterback, we're all of 
the good quarterback. 

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Sleepers are streamers are 
scooped up and I'm looking to 

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add my quite and some places. 
I think it's a good matchup. 

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And yeah, like you said good 
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Corey Davis is also back for the
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You know, that adds another 
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room Elijah Moore's, roll grew a
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three wide receiver set with 
more Davis, and Wilson is pretty

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strong. 
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injuries, I think they're going 
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lot there in New York. 
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to You know, be this extreme 
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here, but I do think he's a 
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for this this matchup against 
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Yeah, I think I'm about with you
mid-range qb2. 

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I'm definitely starting guys 
like Trevor Lawrence and Jared 

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Goff and that kind of game 
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I guess it starts to get 
interesting, like Jimmy 

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Garoppolo verse Miami, Jordan 
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Chicago, he's probably like 
right in that range. 

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Yeah, I think he's right. 
He's right in that. 

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And I think I'd be. 
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right? 
I think You laid it out well 

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where I'm probably going Golf 
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But I think I would go white 
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But yeah, that that one gets 
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Well, not to mention to, I mean,
if we have Michael Carter, who's

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they say? 
He's kind of day-to-day with 

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this low ankle sprain. 
I mean, James Robinson scratch 

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last week. 
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running game and even if Ty 
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he's way more of a pass-catching
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Like they could just let him do 
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slings it like 50 times in A 
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he performed so well last week, 
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Robert solow. 
Why wouldn't you give him the 

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keys to air it out in this 
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there where we know the Vikings.
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they can put up a lot of points.
So there's some upside for the 

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game script there, for sure, for
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Yeah, I think overall like and 
we can get to this, we talk to 

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other positions. 
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like, I'm more excited for 
Garrett Wilson and even for, you

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know, stashing guys like Davis 
and Elijah more than And for my 

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quite himself, I just think he 
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those wide receivers and even 
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a past histories perspective for
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Um, yeah, so another thing I 
wanted to hit on, we had another

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sort of new quarterback in week 
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for Baker, Mayfield and p.j. 
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Again you can see on this chart 
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forced to throw a ton and 
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disgusting, Denver Broncos 
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a ton. 
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Donald was much better than 
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He's better than PJ Walker, has 
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perspective and we saw DJ more 
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So I guess I'm curious like it's
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Again for a one-game sample. 
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priors on? 
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The only relevant guy here in 
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Are you more excited about DJ 
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Or are you just seeing this as 
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we're not. 
We shouldn't be that much more 

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excited about the Carolina pass,
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between, I don't think the word 
excited is what you could use 

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with the Carolina offense and 
yet it's still just gives DJ 

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more like slightly more life. 
I mean Sam Donald the DJ more 

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splits with him at court. 
Back, 15.7 DraftKings points per

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game. 
Adam Levitin had this tweet on 

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Twitter and then, you know, his 
production, with Baker, Mayfield

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or PJ, Walker and 11 games, 10.6
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So we have a decent sample size,
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sorry. 
Sam Donald looking DJ Moore's 

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way. 
So, the way I always think about

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these situations is like, it 
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I think which is nice. 
I don't think the ceiling case 

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is really that different. 
If anything, I think you could 

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argue that PJ Walker. 
Gave him a bit more of a ceiling

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just Cuz he would uncork some of
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raises his his throne if you're 
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you're barely excited about 
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I know in some of our teams like
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Pickens verse DJ. 
More of those kind of starts its

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maybe you have a Garrett Wilson 
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still want to start those guys /
DJ more right now. 

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I think it's a slight bump for 
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I mean, I think. 
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Like you said, I think Walker 
and I think I think the big 

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I think there's a big enough 
sample showing that Baker was 

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just devastating to Moore's 
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that Arnold played well enough 
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I don't think there's a way that
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in the future. 
So yeah, that's that's a 

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positive there. 
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Another thing I wanted to hit on
and again, we can talk about the

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pass catchers here, a bit, the 
big news and then I felt this 

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week is DeShaun Watson coming 
back and week 13 and you can see

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Jacoby per set here, kind of, 
you know, a middling quarterback

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performer thus far this year. 
I think he's been better than 

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expected. 
He sort of kept the Cleveland 

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offense afloat, you know, and 
Joe coup and Amari Cooper and 

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even Donovan people just Jones 
of maybe slightly exceeded 

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Asians there in Cleveland 
relative to their pre-season 

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ATP. 
But I think a lot of people are 

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now going to expect a big boost 
in the pass catchers values 

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there in Cleveland. 
You have any, you know, gut gut 

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instinct on on that. 
Do you see a massive upgrade for

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the Cleveland pass catchers with
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Yeah, I don't. 
I mean Amari Cooper has been 

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really solid with Brissette. 
I think the thing that I wonder 

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if it changes is dpj being used 
a little bit more as a deep 

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threat, you know, he kind of 
changed how we thought about him

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with Jacoby where he was like a 
12 point per game guy just like 

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locked in and he wasn't getting 
kind of those big plays and so 

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you can tell yourself a story as
does he get used more as the 

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will Fuller with the Sean Watson
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I think we definitely see more 
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I'm I'm having a hard time, you 
know, forecasting, what we can 

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expect from him this week, 
obviously, a ton of rust and 

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then you have like the juiciest 
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And on top of that the Cleveland
Browns identity is still the Run

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game. 
And so to me this is like is 

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this just going to be a game 
where they just pound it with 

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Nick Chubb and cream hunt and 
maybe like this John Watson 

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uncork a few play-action deep 
throws like I just I don't know 

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how much we can expect from him 
in this match of even though it 

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does set up really well on 
paper. 

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Yeah, yeah, that that's a good 
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And yeah, I think my thought is,
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this is a dumb take, but I think
that Brissette really hasn't 

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been that bad for the past 
customers like, or know how much

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more we can expect out of David 
and Joko, you know, he's been a 

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top five fantasy tight end 
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healthy. 
Amari Cooper has been in the top

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ten and I think it's been really
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two guys. 
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know, wants and coming back, 
maybe things get more spread out

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like you said, maybe dpj gets 
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Yeah, we'll see. 
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stealing is much more talented 
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when these guys come back from 
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really hard to predict, you 
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been where their head is. 
That obviously Watson's, you 

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know, had all that off the field
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better for those guys. 
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Cooper or in joking right now, 
it's not like you necessarily 

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like want to change for those 
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producing at a high level. 
So, yeah, I'm with you, too. 

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I mean, like it. 
It's also like he just returned 

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to practice. 
I mean, this is a super long 

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layoff here. 
So, yeah, I would expect some 

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Rust, I would expect them easy 
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I'm still super excited about 
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standpoint. 
I know there's a lot of teams 

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that were hunting for 
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better upside proposition at 

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quarterback on the waiver wire 
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And yet I think you still have 
to temper expectations over the 

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next couple of weeks. 
Yeah, agreed there. 

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Yeah. 
A couple quick hits and then we 

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can move on. 
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Perkins, early returns of those 
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Yeah, I don't know if you can 
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It's our array, especially Rams,
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disaster so far. 
And again, Kenny Pickett's. 

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Still is lying pretty far behind
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like a dynasty take. 
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bit worried about his long-term 
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I don't think he's played to a 
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couldn't replace him in the next
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quarterback falls in the draft 
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So just maybe a take therefore, 
people look ticket and Dynasty. 

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I'm starting to get a little a 
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Concerned there. 
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I feel like I've been a bit of a
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made a decent amount of excuses 
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stuff last night. 
I mean, he missed just George 

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Pickens wide open in The End 
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On one of those throws that I 
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day on the other hand, if I'm 
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excuses, like they had a 
positive game script the whole 

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time and we're having so much 
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didn't even matter when Ozzy, 
left any Snell was running. 

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Well, so he hasn't Lee he hasn't
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crush and yet he just hasn't 
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opportunities either. 
Yeah I think if you're going to 

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go with the positive on picket 
you see is rushing yards per 

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game pops a little bit in this 
chart. 

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I think people knew that about 
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of his game has translated to 
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Let me pick it up right here. 
He's at 25 rushing yards. 

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Per game, which isn't Elite. 
But it's in the same tier of 

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guys, like Patrick Mahomes Geno 
Smith, Trevor like better than 

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Trevor Lawrence better than Joe 
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perspective, you can be excited 
about that but yeah the passing 

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is really what's held him back 
thus far. 

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So yeah we'll see. 
We'll see how thick and I'm not 

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completely writing him off but 
you know we'd like to see a few 

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good performances down the 
stretch. 

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I think to feel better about 
him. 

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And I see going forward, do you 
have any takes on, you know, the

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other one. 
I haven't seen an updated injury

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report on on Aaron Rodgers, but 
do you have any thoughts on 

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Jordan? 
Love if he is the quarterback 

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this week, Yeah, I saw I haven't
dug a ton into like the the 

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matchups for this upcoming week 
yet. 

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What I will say, just just for 
watching the game, I think 

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Jordan love. 
Now I'm blanking on his last 

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action was, but I think Jordan 
love and it like his game last 

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week and whatever is most recent
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year. 
Anyways, the point I'm trying to

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make is I think his play on the 
field has trended up in the 

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limited sample that we've seen 
him. 

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I Think when we saw him really 
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kind of laughably bad and he was
getting completely ripped on out

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there. 
He looks a lot more confident. 

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We saw him connect with 
Christian Watson on that, on 

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that deep ball where he looked 
pretty good. 

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And he also adds a bit of 
rushing upside, so they're 

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putting the Bears this week is 
that, is that, yeah, yeah, 

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they're at the Bears. 
I mean, he was like, when he 

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filled in so his line, he was 64
913 yd, TD 146 points, A passer 

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rating, obviously, small sample 
size, but considering that the 

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other times we've seen him Steph
to, and he looked really bad. 

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It's nice to see that. 
It looks like there's some 

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improvement. 
Like you said, he definitely 

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seems more comfortable and has 
some pretty nice weapons here 

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too. 
He seemed to have a good 

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connection with Christian 
Watson. 

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Yeah and back to the my quite 
thing. 

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You know. 
Mike Woods. 

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Blow up game was against that 
Chicago defense. 

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We've seen Chicago give up a lot
of big games, two opposing, 

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quarterbacks and pass catchers. 
So certainly the matchup you 

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want to Target. 
As a streamer I think I would 

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put him if we're, you know, 
probably the decision you have, 

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you're looking for a quarterback
streamers him verse my quite I 

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think that he has, I think he's 
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the potential rushing 
production, he can give you. 

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I think that sort of heightens 
is for stealing a combo just a 

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little bit, but I think it's 
close. 

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I think I would be pretty happy 
with either guy as a streamer 

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this week. 
Yeah, both bull Chicago in 

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Minnesota. 
Have been really favorable 

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quarterback matchup. 
So yeah, I think you can pick 

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your your favorite of the two 
there. 

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Yeah. 
Cool. 

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So moving on to the running back
position here, we're looking at 

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workload, in terms of running, 
back, expected, fantasy points 

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and efficiency. 
And, you know, compared to the 

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Past chart. 
We're now just filtering two 

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weeks nine through twelve, 
obviously, running back is a 

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position where injuries and 
coaching decisions change things

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dramatically. 
So we want to look at the most 

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recent data. 
So the last sort of 45 games for

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some of these players this chart
here shows Receiving expected 

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fantasy points per game on the 
y-axis, and rushing expected, 

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fantasy points per game on the 
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running backs. 

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Total workload in terms of 
expected fantasy points per 

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game. 
Also shown on the chart is 

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fantasy points over expected. 
So, the larger bubbles, you can 

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see here like Joe Mixon. 
That means he's out performing 

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his expected pensive, went 
workload. 

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First, the the smaller bubbles 
means of Layer. 

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That's been a little bit. 
Inefficient from an expected 

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fantasy points perspective, but 
yeah, I think I would anchor 

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more on just the, the workload 
and less on the efficiency and 

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such a small sample, but yeah. 
Anyways, Pete, I think a couple 

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interesting things to talk 
through here. 

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Number one, I just wanted to 
talk a little bit about Austin 

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Eckler, his receiving fantasy 
points. 

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Workload, is truly in a Here of 
his own, he's at 17 expected. 

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Receiving fantasy points per 
game. 

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This is BFF. 
The next closest running back is

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Ramon Dre, at around 12, and 
then it drops off. 

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Again, they're the next closest 
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around 10:00. 
So he's kind of doubling up. 

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Almost the guys right behind him
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workload, and he is kind of 
close to two breaking. 

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Yeah, breaking fantasy from 
that. 

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Perspective. 
So, I don't know, I just want to

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highlight that point. 
I had seen some other things 

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this week about how sort of the 
specialist receiving fantasy 

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back is kind of almost dead like
the, you know, JD mckissick 

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James White. 
Yeah. 

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Years passed like those guys 
don't really exist anymore. 

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But Austin Eckler is just truly,
you know, an outlier from that 

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perspective. 
Yeah. 

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What were you because one of the
narratives heading into last 

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week was that Keenan Allen being
back was going to eat. 

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Eat into his receiving 
production. 

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That clearly didn't happen this 
week. 

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Do you think if they get Mike 
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he doesn't catch as many passes,
or do you think he's just kind 

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of locked into this role and 
he's such an entrenched part of 

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their passing game, that it 
doesn't even matter when they're

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fully healthy on offense. 
Yeah, I think I'm somewhere in 

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the middle. 
I think it. 

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If, if all those guys were at 
full health, I don't think would

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see 17 expected fantasy points 
per game or whatever. 

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It's been during the, the 
stretch for those guys have been

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injured or playing at less than 
100%, but I still think his role

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is very locked in, you know, 
this hasn't just been a small 

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blip. 
We've seen much earlier in the 

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season him putting up 1210 
Target games. 

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And I think that, you know, this
from a more realistic 

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perspective, I don't expect 
Keenan Allen or Mike Williams to

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be playing at 100%, you know, 
we're in week 12. 

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Now, those guys have been pretty
banged up. 

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They're not necessarily known 
for, you know, staying healthy. 

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So I just kind of bet against 
those guys being at full at full

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strength and I think the other 
thing to call out is the 

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secondary or tertiary pass 
catchers in this offense 

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joshjpalmer, Deandre Carter even
even Gerald Everett haven't 

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really ever shown an ability to 
earn targets at a high rate. 

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So even if both Keenan and Mike 
Williams are back, I still think

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there's there's room for Eckler 
to have a pretty big Target. 

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Share in this offense. 
Yeah, I agree. 

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What do you, what's your read 
on? 

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Kind of what we're seeing from 
Josh Jacobs, obviously explodes 

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for a massive game 303 total 
scrimmage yards, the walk-off 

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touchdown here. 
He is back on the injury report 

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with this calf, strain. 
It sounds like they're going to 

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really limit him in practice 
this week but what did you what 

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was your big takeaway from the 
monster Josh Jacobs game? 

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Yeah. 
Maddy's is kind of doing it all 

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year. 
At least from the workload 

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perspective and he's had a 
couple other big blowup games. 

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I think my Takeaway on on the 
Jacobs thing overall this year 

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is that, you know, I think 
there's a lot of talk about, you

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know, the running back Dead Zone
and why we should avoid running 

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backs in in that range. 
But I think there got to be a 

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point. 
We're Jacobs felt like the 

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seventh. 
Eighth even ninth round and some

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drafts where the dead zone like 
stink got associated with them 

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even though he had sort of 
fallen out of that range. 

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As it's traditionally defined 
and at that point, our biases 

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should have sort of been able to
come off him and and I don't 

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know, maybe. 
I'm just trying to find a reason

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for wide and draft more of him 
but yeah, I don't know. 

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His role is really strong. 
I don't from like the Every 

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perspective. 
I don't think the calf injury 

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seems like something that's 
going to limit him if he was 

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able to play through it this 
week. 

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But yeah, it's just it's been 
pretty consistent all season 

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this this workload for him and I
don't expect it to go away 

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barring some kind of injury. 
Yeah, I mean, yeah. 

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I think he obviously definitely 
smash this week against the 

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Chargers, if he's active, I 
would say if, for some reason 

450
00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:23,500
zamir, white is available in 
your league though. 

451
00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:27,500
I would Finally pick him up 
because I do think just based on

452
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:31,400
how they've used Josh Jacobs, I 
think, sure, I think Abdullah 

453
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,600
would get a little bit more work
if Jacobs Miss, but I do think 

454
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,500
zamir. 
White would probably get 75 to 

455
00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:39,300
80% of what Jacobs has been 
getting. 

456
00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:43,000
And so that's worth a stash just
to see how his, you know, 

457
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,300
practice reports materialize. 
But yeah. 

458
00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:48,800
In the macro conversation for 
Josh Jacobs to, I think, you 

459
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,500
know, there was The Dead Zone 
stuff, but like, I don't even 

460
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:54,500
think that was it because, like 
you said, he was falling Out Of 

461
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:57,100
The Dead Zone. 
He was like in that mile Sanders

462
00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,200
range there for a while. 
I think it was all of the stuff 

463
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,600
about the team drafting zamir 
white, the not picking up his 

464
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,200
fifth year, option, the Hall of 
Fame game usage, there was just 

465
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,900
like a cascading series of 
events. 

466
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,000
I was like, holy cow, this guy's
on the outs. 

467
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,100
Josh, McDaniels doesn't want to 
touch this guy and so I think we

468
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:16,900
all collectively fell into that.
But on the other side to like I 

469
00:25:16,908 --> 00:25:20,900
mentioned Mi Sanders, like I had
a bet with someone about you 

470
00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:23,900
know, Kenneth gate. 
Well outscoring Mi Sanders luck,

471
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,400
Lee. 
I was on the Mi Sanders one for 

472
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,700
that one, but it collectively we
tend to get excited about the 

473
00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:30,700
younger guy. 
The sexier guy. 

474
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:35,000
Yeah, Josh Jacobs just was the 
epitome of the unsexy player 

475
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,800
that became way, way too cheap 
and drafts. 

476
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,300
Yeah, it's almost been kind of 
two years in a row. 

477
00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:43,500
Or this is happened to right? 
Like you could sort of say the 

478
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:47,800
same thing about Leonard, 
fournette and Melvin Gordon, for

479
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,900
2021, where they were sort of 
the unsexy guys, who had a track

480
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:55,200
record of being first round 
fantasy picks had Appointed 

481
00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:58,800
we're older, you know, not 
exactly the same situations and 

482
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,700
they obviously didn't smash as 
big as Jacobs has this year. 

483
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:04,200
But yeah, I think it's, I don't 
know something. 

484
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,400
I guess. 
I'll try to think of through 

485
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,600
next year is, you know, once 
that guy kind of gets the, The 

486
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:15,000
Dead Zone washed like stink on 
him even when that player Falls 

487
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,400
to a part of the draft where 
he's a pretty good pick you know

488
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,700
relative to his cause she's not 
even in the dead zone anymore. 

489
00:26:21,700 --> 00:26:25,900
Like I'm going to try to To 
shake off my vices a little bit 

490
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:27,400
more. 
I think it's just easy to sort 

491
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,100
of get those negative biases on 
players and then not update when

492
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:38,100
they're when they're cost 
updates down or, you know, we're

493
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:41,000
so I'm gonna try to think 
through that more more next year

494
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,000
but Jacobs. 
Obviously, I think that's been 

495
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,500
the biggest League winner, if 
anyone fancy this far, I don't 

496
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:49,100
know how you can argue for 
someone else at this point 

497
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,700
unless I'm missing something. 
Yeah, I mean cost adjusted. 

498
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:55,900
I mean we should talk about 
Ramon Ray Stevenson. 

499
00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:58,800
He was going, you know, 
ironically around the same said,

500
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,100
plays a drafts as Josh Jacobs 
was at one point. 

501
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,000
I think you can make a case for 
Kenneth Walker. 

502
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,300
Isabelle based on but no I 
agree. 

503
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:09,500
I mean, Kenneth Walker's, not 
putting up 50 Burgers right now 

504
00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:12,200
with his role. 
But let's talk about Ramon Dre. 

505
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,300
We now have Damien. 
Harris, who is week-to-week? 

506
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:18,200
It sounds like it seems like he 
could miss at least multiple 

507
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,900
weeks. 
I mean, Nothing is Stopping 

508
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:21,700
Ramon. 
Ray Stevenson, I was stash. 

509
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:24,400
A strong at a few spots. 
He had a horrible horrible 

510
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,400
penalty, he's fully and Bill 
Belichick's doghouse. 

511
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,400
Now I mean I can't make any 
cases against her Madre going 

512
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,700
forward right now. 
Yeah I can't either. 

513
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:36,200
I don't think there's any backup
running back. 

514
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,300
They trust I think Jay Jay 
Taylor was released maybe back 

515
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:45,700
on the broccoli clip. 
Yeah roll the clip he had that 

516
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:49,300
game where he had like ten 
carries 4 - 2 yards or whatever 

517
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:54,000
it was a couple weeks ago. 
So yeah it's going to be fully 

518
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,800
remond re-season another injury 
to note. 

519
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:02,100
There is Jacoby Myers left that 
game pretty early. 

520
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,000
On Thanksgiving and seems 
questionable to play this week 

521
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,400
as well. 
So I think that could funnel 

522
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,200
even more looks in the passing 
game to Ramon Dre because 

523
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,700
there's not a whole lot other 
pass catchers in this offense 

524
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:20,500
that draw a lot of targets. 
So yeah, out of a hard time, you

525
00:28:20,508 --> 00:28:25,100
know, ranking or Madre outside 
of you know top six or so. 

526
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:28,300
Running backs for the week is 
his role is as likely to be 

527
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:33,200
massive. 
But yeah, let's see. 

528
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,100
Any other. 
There's a couple other injuries 

529
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:40,600
situations that we should 
probably hit on quickly. 

530
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,700
I guess, first in New York. 
So Michael Carter for the Jets. 

531
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:50,300
Michael Carter, went down with 
an injury and seems day-to-day, 

532
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:54,200
I think the team quoted as a. 
So I think he's, you know, early

533
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,000
in the week, but I think he is 
truly questionable to play this 

534
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,900
next week. 
We seize oven white or Donovan 

535
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:04,200
night pop up here for around ten
expected points. 

536
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:09,100
He played pretty clearly ahead 
of Todd Johnson particularly on 

537
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:12,200
on early Downs, in New York and 
with James Robinson, healthy 

538
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,700
scratched, I would expect him to
be the feature running back in 

539
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:20,500
New York. 
So yeah, any thought speed on 

540
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,500
the New York Jets running back 
situation. 

541
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,900
Do you think zolomon night is 
sort of the best waiver wire 

542
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:31,200
Target for this week? 
Running back. 

543
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,100
Yeah, it all admit fully heading
into this week. 

544
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:37,500
I beans on oven night was one of
those guys are legit had never 

545
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,400
even heard of and then he 
forces, nine missed tackles in 

546
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,300
this game here, and looked 
really good. 

547
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:48,200
And in general to, I think we 
tend to myself included dismiss 

548
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,000
these guys who we don't have any
priors on. 

549
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:56,100
Whereas I do think a guy who 
comes in performs, well, on a 

550
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:59,200
season where the waiver wire is 
incredibly Baron at running 

551
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,600
back. 
Like, obviously, this guy, I 

552
00:30:00,608 --> 00:30:03,900
should be added and taking stabs
on him and just hoping hey maybe

553
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:07,100
there's positive you know 
momentum here maybe Robinson 

554
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:09,900
continues not to play Michael 
Carter's out longer than we 

555
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,200
think. 
I mean yeah anyone who has a 

556
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,000
pulse in an offense that's 
turning around I think is 

557
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,700
relevant and I was pretty 
impressed by what zone of and I 

558
00:30:17,708 --> 00:30:21,600
did on Sunday. 
Yeah he's also absolutely 

559
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,600
popping in the the cool name 
model he has not just one cool 

560
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,200
name but to cool names on ovens 
his real name and then his name 

561
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,400
is also Bam's. 
Yeah, that's another data point 

562
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,600
that we should be really excited
about for the rest of the 

563
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,700
season. 
But yeah, I agree with you. 

564
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:39,500
Also Michael Carter was not, you
know, I think he had really 

565
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,200
impressive rookie season. 
He has not been that impressive 

566
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,400
this year to the point where if 
it was on oven plays. 

567
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,900
Well this next week with Carter 
out I'm not sure how locked in 

568
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,300
Carter is for the starter role. 
I do think it would be a 

569
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:54,700
committee once Carter comes 
back. 

570
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,900
But I think this is a situation 
where the the backup has a 

571
00:30:57,908 --> 00:31:01,500
chance to to take the roll. 
You know, compared to like 

572
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:04,500
appear on versus Nixon situation
where we know peer and there's 

573
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:07,000
no way he's taking the full time
role for mixing, no matter how. 

574
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,800
Well he plays. 
I think, in this case, we can't 

575
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,800
be super confident that that 
Carter retains that starting 

576
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,700
role even when he comes back. 
Yeah, it is also, I was just 

577
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:19,600
made me think back to just what 
a wild ride. 

578
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,100
This James Robinson season has 
been where early odd, you know, 

579
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,100
people who drafted James 
Robinson, we're doing Victory 

580
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,900
laughs. 
They're like, we drafted the 

581
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:31,700
Jags rb1 and the 16th. 
A and you guys were all scared 

582
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:34,800
for the injury then they trade 
of the think you get another new

583
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,400
lease on life. 
And now we're at the point where

584
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,100
he's a healthy scratch like this
James Robinson. 

585
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:42,800
Run out has been super bizarre. 
Super weird. 

586
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,600
I mean admittedly I didn't have 
any of them but I was like 

587
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:47,900
panicking after the first couple
weeks of people to. 

588
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,100
Yeah it's like why didn't I 
draft any James Robinson? 

589
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,800
Why do I have all this Travis 
etn in the third round laughter?

590
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,500
Yeah, that's funny. 
Let's quickly. 

591
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:03,700
Take a look at the the NFC here.
So again for people following 

592
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:08,900
wrong a following along same 
chart here, but now looking at 

593
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:13,900
the NFC a couple just like weird
things that popped out to me on 

594
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:16,600
this chart. 
Jamaal Williams has like one of 

595
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,400
the weirdest roles that I've 
ever seen the NFL, like, his 

596
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,700
expecting expected. 
Rushing workload, here is the 

597
00:32:23,708 --> 00:32:28,400
biggest and then FC at over 50. 
18 points and now a lot of that 

598
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,600
is like goal line carries. 
He gets a shits on the goal line

599
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,200
carries obviously leading the 
league in rushing touchdowns. 

600
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,700
You guys probably know that but 
he has almost no receiving role 

601
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:40,700
at all like it it almost like 
doesn't show up on the chart 

602
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:43,900
because yes like a little rolls 
though, I don't know this. 

603
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:46,500
Jamal Williams stuff is like I 
don't know. 

604
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:48,600
This is like a drone bet. 
It like I'm trying to think of a

605
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,900
comparison of like what this 
role is historically. 

606
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,300
Like it's been a while since 
I've seen anything. 

607
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:56,100
Quite like this Jamaal Williams 
role in Detroit, it's kind of 

608
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:58,600
bizarre. 
I know it's like it's one of the

609
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,400
classic things where you just 
want to scream regression and 

610
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,800
then it just keeps happening 
week after week. 

611
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,800
And like the biggest issue for 
both him and DeAndre Swift, is 

612
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,500
the fact that Justin Jackson is 
involved. 

613
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:12,600
And you know, once you get into 
that territory, where there's 

614
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,500
three running backs, getting 
touches, you just worry about 

615
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:18,200
the consistency of any of those 
guys. 

616
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,900
And yet, Jamaal Williams fucking
falls into the end zone every 

617
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:21,800
single week. 
So have I. 

618
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,300
Yeah, I mean, if you have Jamal 
Williams, you're not sitting him

619
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,500
at this point. 
Now they get a juicy matchup in 

620
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,800
a game. 
I'm with a total over 50 points 

621
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,300
against the Jags and it's like, 
well but can fire up Jamaal 

622
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:33,500
Williams again. 
Yep. 

623
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:34,800
Yeah, what do you mean? 
What are you gonna do? 

624
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,600
You're not gonna, you're not 
gonna sit the guy who could go 

625
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,200
off for two or three touchdowns 
at any week? 

626
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,700
It seems and yeah, I don't know,
I would say. 

627
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:44,200
Yeah. 
It like you said, I keep 

628
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,600
thinking some of these one yard 
Jamaal Williams touchdowns have 

629
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,600
to be Jared Goff passing 
touchdowns at some point, but it

630
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,300
doesn't seem like it's gonna 
happen this season. 

631
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:59,400
Yeah, I think. 
I don't know anything else here 

632
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,900
on this on this chart that that 
jumps out to you. 

633
00:34:01,908 --> 00:34:04,700
Otherwise we can look at the we 
have more running back charts on

634
00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:06,500
Snap counts, we can take a look 
at. 

635
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,800
We should talk about we should 
talk about Christian McCaffrey 

636
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,800
because there's definitely been 
lots of hand-wringing about his 

637
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,100
role since Eli Mitchell came 
back. 

638
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,500
Now we have Eli Mitchell out six
to eight weeks. 

639
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:22,699
Christian McCaffrey dealing with
a little knee issue himself but 

640
00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:25,300
assuming Christian McCaffrey is 
good to go. 

641
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,800
Do you think tea DP and or 
Jordan Mason is his big of a 

642
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,800
thorn in his side as Eli 
Mitchell was or do you think we 

643
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,199
get some of that first week 
second week Christian McCaffrey 

644
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,600
in this offense? 
Or was like holy cow full blast 

645
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,500
off mode with his workload. 
Yeah that's a good question I 

646
00:34:43,507 --> 00:34:48,199
think is, you know, if you was 
fully healthy I would be really 

647
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,300
excited. 
The fact that he is dealing with

648
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:52,800
this knee soreness. 
I've heard it reported as maybe 

649
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,199
like a patellar tendon soreness 
issue. 

650
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,600
I think that they're going to 
limit him and not go full like 

651
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,500
Carolina version of Christian. 
McCaffrey that said I still 

652
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:09,200
think his role is is really 
valuable when he's on the field.

653
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,600
You know he's running all the 
routes, he's on the field. 

654
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,500
He's Learning a ton of targets, 
I think that he's gonna get a 

655
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:20,500
full grip. 
On the Red Zone usage Mitchell 

656
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,200
was actually stealing a good bit
of that. 

657
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:27,500
I don't see them going to Jordan
Mason or TDP there in the Red 

658
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:28,700
Zone. 
I think that really view 

659
00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:31,500
Mitchell as like a tier above 
those other running backs and 

660
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:34,200
that's why are they giving him a
lot of high-value touches in 

661
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,400
this offense. 
So yeah, maybe a bit of a 

662
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,100
lukewarm take, I think that 
either TDP or Mason or even 

663
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,400
Tevin Coleman Whoever earns that
second role is going to mix in 

664
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,300
on early downs and McCaffrey's 
like snaps and Carries share, 

665
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,700
maybe won't look as good as 
we're expecting or verse but it 

666
00:35:51,707 --> 00:35:54,900
wasn't Carolina, but I think 
you'll have a pretty firm grip 

667
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:57,900
on all the targets, all the 
routes and all the red zone 

668
00:35:57,900 --> 00:35:59,900
usage. 
So I'm doing this. 

669
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:04,600
This Mitchell injury is still 
like a pretty sizeable bump for 

670
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,200
McCaffrey. 
Yeah, I agree with that. 

671
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,900
Take one other one that I feel 
like is tricky and I'm curious 

672
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:13,300
your thoughts on it. 
It is what we're seeing in 

673
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:17,000
Washington with Antonio Gibson 
and Brian Robinson, where it 

674
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,500
almost seems like they're 
ping-ponging big games. 

675
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:22,600
But I don't even think you can 
just Square it away with. 

676
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,400
Oh, it's like game script 
dependent. 

677
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,000
I don't, I don't have a good 
read on. 

678
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,300
What's going on with their 
usage. 

679
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:31,100
Does anything in the charts? 
Point you to two something with 

680
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:35,200
this backfield? 
Yeah, that's a good question and

681
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,600
maybe we can. 
So here we have the expected 

682
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,700
points. 
We have Gibson here in sort of 

683
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:44,900
the 10 to 15 x, by 2 points. 
Range Robinson also in a very 

684
00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:48,000
similar range. 
The difference in the roles is 

685
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,300
that Robinson is sort of 
primarily just an early down 

686
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:54,800
grinder and Gibson is seeing 
more of the receiving work. 

687
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,100
That said, he's not getting a 
ton of receiving usages and sort

688
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:01,700
of the five expected fantasy 
points per game. 

689
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:06,800
From a receiving perspective, I 
think that's because like Taylor

690
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,100
heinicke compared to whence or 
other quarterbacks hasn't 

691
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:14,200
involved. 
The running backs in the passing

692
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,900
game, as much we've seen like 
mckissick completely phased out 

693
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:20,100
and maybe there's something 
there where they don't do the 

694
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:22,500
running backs as a big part of 
this passing game now. 

695
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,500
But yeah, but like you said, I 
think my overall take is, I'd 

696
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:30,600
rather have Gibson. 
The snaps still look pretty good

697
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,400
for Gibson. 
I was out snapped by Robinson 

698
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,700
this week, but it was pretty 
close, 30 snaps Robinson, 26 for

699
00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:42,600
Gibson that said, Gibson 
doubled, him out in routes, run 

700
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,600
with 6:46, and that's been 
pretty consistent where we've 

701
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,300
seen pretty even snap shares 
with between the two. 

702
00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:52,700
But with Gibson, getting more 
routes and more Target. 

703
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:57,200
So just with that profile. 
Odd preferred bet on Gibson. 

704
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,800
He's also shown the ability to 
break off a long, long plays. 

705
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,400
And in the past, A game. 
So I like his upside a little 

706
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,600
bit there, but yeah, if you have
Robinson, I think, you know, I 

707
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,500
was pretty concerned about 
Robinson from a talent 

708
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:14,600
perspective, he had had a pretty
long stretch of like very 

709
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,600
inefficient games and we see him
pop up here for over 100 yards 

710
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,800
and broke off some from next 
semester on. 

711
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,100
So, you know, I think there was 
there was going to be a little 

712
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,800
bit up on him as well, but I'd 
still at still rather have 

713
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,400
Gibson. 
Yeah. 

714
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,300
I think I'm in the same boat 
although Once I saw Brian 

715
00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:35,400
Robinson and that big hat, man. 
It is tough. 

716
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,300
Not to like this guy. 
I'll tell you that much. 

717
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:40,700
Yeah, saw this tweet that 
they're like. 

718
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:43,800
The only thing this photo tells 
us, is that Brian Robinson, is a

719
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,400
really good friend. 
Like, whoever it spent is that 

720
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,400
is starting this this hat 
business, like you have to be a 

721
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,000
good friend to wear that thing 
in public. 

722
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:01,600
Cool. 
What we spend a lot of time on 

723
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:05,500
on running back. 
I do want to show these charts 

724
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:08,400
which looks at running back 
usage from a slightly different 

725
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,800
angle here. 
We're looking at snaps and usage

726
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:15,300
in terms of Russia temps and 
routes. 

727
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,800
So the way to kind of read this 
chart is the green is sort of 

728
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,700
the valuable usage from a 
running back perspective, that's

729
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:26,700
the percentage of snaps. 
Whether even either in the ball 

730
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,100
it to them or they're running a 
route and have a chance to earn 

731
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:32,600
a Target. 
So you see on the far left side 

732
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,300
here, we have the workhorses 
like Jonathan Taylor, Josh 

733
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,400
Jacobs. 
And the far right-hand side of 

734
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,200
this chart, we have sort of the 
more time shared running backs 

735
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,300
and you know, AJ Dillon, Karen 
Williams, Jerick McKinnon, 

736
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,300
Jerick McKinnon, those type of 
guys, so it's sort of a way to 

737
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:52,400
look at, you know, talk about 
Workhorse usage, from a snaps 

738
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,400
perspective and maybe the one 
situation, you don't want to 

739
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,400
talk about here. 
Is is Pittsburgh I think that 

740
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,000
injury situation has gone a 
little bit under the radar this 

741
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,100
week na zhi. 
I think left the game in the 

742
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:08,500
third quarter with an abdominal 
injury and was kind of in and 

743
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:10,700
out before that looked like you 
were struggling with injury a 

744
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:14,300
little bit. 
He leaves behind a pretty big 

745
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:16,600
snap. 
Share in Pittsburgh where he did

746
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,800
Miss time around about sort of 
6570 percent snaps for nausea. 

747
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,700
So definitely room for a back up
here to take on a big role. 

748
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:29,400
Do you have any leads? 
I mean, you know, between Jalen 

749
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,800
Warren who was also injured 
Benny Snell, and Anthony 

750
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,100
McFarland about who you would 
kind of want to add, you know, 

751
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:40,600
next week and going forward. 
Yeah, I mean, and I do think the

752
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,100
nausea thing is legit in that 
everything I'm saying is that a 

753
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:49,200
lot of times the typical time 
Miss for an abdomen injury is 

754
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,000
multiple weeks. 
So if he gets shelved, I still 

755
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,900
think I would want Jalen worn 
above all those guys. 

756
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:59,300
If he's obviously, SLI healthy. 
It seems like the team had fully

757
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:01,500
committed to him as the backup 
running back. 

758
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:05,100
He was really efficient with his
touches early in the season. 

759
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:09,800
Benny Snell has always been kind
of a last resort option for the 

760
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,100
Steelers over his tenure and 
that's what he was. 

761
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:15,200
Last night is well and then 
Anthony McFarland kind of mixing

762
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,400
in and getting some of those 
passing opportunities to. 

763
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,800
So I think I still prefer Warren
but Benny still should probably 

764
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,100
be added if Warren isn't ready. 
Just because I mean You could 

765
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:29,800
probably if you have both nausea
and Jalen worn out. 

766
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,700
I mean, Benny cells probably 
getting 15 touches this week, so

767
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,400
I think both should be picked 
up, but Warren's really the guy 

768
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,600
that has some exciting upside if
he gets a start. 

769
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,500
Yeah, I agree with that, I'd say
like, if you're desperate for a 

770
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:46,700
spot start this week, I would 
rather have Snell because I 

771
00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:48,500
think it's likely warm miss 
another week. 

772
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:51,700
But if you're looking for a guy 
to stash for the playoffs, 

773
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,900
Warren is obviously the guy you 
want. 

774
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:58,300
Yes, is a good point here. 
When from historical anomalies 

775
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:02,200
Tomlin said, warrants hamstring 
was not serious for really about

776
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,200
last week. 
So yeah, maybe it's less less 

777
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,000
bad of injury than than we think
but I don't know. 

778
00:42:10,008 --> 00:42:14,300
Hamstrings are always a tricky 
one and I'm probably betting 

779
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:15,800
Warren mrs. 
This week. 

780
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,100
But yeah, we're want to check 
the practice reports on that 

781
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:19,300
one. 
That one's kind of tricky. 

782
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:22,800
Yeah, I mean you are the reason 
why this is very relevant is 

783
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,400
because they're playing the 
Falcons who suggested giving up 

784
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,200
points. 
Both To the ground and through 

785
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,900
the air. 
So I think we definitely want to

786
00:42:29,908 --> 00:42:33,800
keep tabs on this, you know, 
Snell's more gonna be like, plug

787
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,400
your nose, try to get your eight
points and get out of there. 

788
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,700
Whereas like Warren could 
actually do something exciting 

789
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:42,300
with his touches. 
Yeah, yeah, could be, yeah. 

790
00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:47,600
Like if it's Benny Snell chalk 
week in DFS, I'm probably about 

791
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,600
a way of that one. 
Yeah, yeah. 

792
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:53,000
But for my RV to in a managed 
League, I could be really 

793
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,400
excited about it. 
Benny Snell, sponsoring some. 

794
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,500
So I'm like so, Yep. 
I think the other another thing 

795
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:02,500
that jumps out to me here Pete, 
I want to touch on quickly is 

796
00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:06,400
kind of Walker's role is really 
strong and maybe this is more of

797
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,600
like a dynasty take, you know, 
there's not much action, a 

798
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,600
little actionable things you can
do with Kenneth Walker at this 

799
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,700
point. 
Like no one really probably 

800
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:15,100
wants to trade him. 
If you have them, you're not 

801
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:17,200
going to trade him away. 
But I think there's this 

802
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,400
perspective still maybe a bit 
from his Prospect profile that 

803
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:24,700
you know he can't do much in the
past catching game, you know, 

804
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:27,000
he's losing a ton of work to 
deejay Dallas. 

805
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,800
Travis Homer. 
I always see that talked about 

806
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,000
but when you put it in 
perspective compared to all 

807
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,600
other running backs in the 
league, he is running a lot of 

808
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,200
routes and like his role here is
top five in terms of Rush 

809
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,000
attempts and routes. 
We have you know we haven't seen

810
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,000
him explode in the passing game 
or anything like that. 

811
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,000
But I think the fact the team 
trust him in that part of the 

812
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,900
game, you know, he might not 
ever be like a Christian 

813
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:56,500
McCaffrey, you know, even 
sequani Berkeley level receiver.

814
00:43:56,500 --> 00:44:00,600
But I think he has proven, he 
can at least be maybe like a Joe

815
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,000
Mixon, Dalvin, cook level 
receiver in the league and that 

816
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:07,900
I think adds a ton to his 
dynasty value. 

817
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:11,400
So I'd be really excited about 
this usage for him. 

818
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,600
If I have have Ken Walker in 
Donna, Sue leagues. 

819
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:19,500
I think that's the perfect comp 
to of like thinking about, you 

820
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:21,900
know, what his role is. 
And he's never going to get to 

821
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:25,000
Austin Eckler CMC levels. 
But that down because you can 

822
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,000
even Josh Jacobs, I think is 
probably a pretty good. 

823
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,500
A comp for him as well. 
And I do think it's notable to 

824
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:35,800
mention that shift because I 
know initially when he had his 

825
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,600
breakout post Rashad Penny, they
were still using deejay Dallas 

826
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,500
and Travis Homer, a decent 
amount and I even know some 

827
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:45,100
people were putting him on sell 
High lists because they were 

828
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:48,600
worried about him and say - game
scripts, if he wasn't catching 

829
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,100
passes and I think we are past 
that now and you just, you have 

830
00:44:52,107 --> 00:44:54,100
so many outs with Kenneth 
Walker, right? 

831
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,700
Like that offense has a lot of 
Red Zone trips. 

832
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,800
He Explosive now he's catching 
some passes to. 

833
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,400
It's like, there's really no 
reason to ever sit or be worried

834
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,300
about Kenneth Walker with this 
role. 

835
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,100
Yeah. 
And just a little routes thing 

836
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:10,700
for this week, he had 27 routes 
run to just 9 for Homer, just 

837
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:13,700
64, deejay Dallas. 
Now, if you just look at the box

838
00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:16,600
score, you'd see that Homer and 
Dallas each got two Targets and 

839
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,400
Walker just had one. 
So I think that's a little bit, 

840
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,700
what people are doing, they're 
doing some box score watching 

841
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:24,400
seeing, ah, he's not getting 
targets Homer and Dallas still 

842
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,500
are and I and I get why people 
think Like that but he's kind of

843
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:30,400
laughing them and routes like 
doubling. 

844
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,800
Both of them up collectively. 
So I'm not so worried about 

845
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,700
that. 
That small sample like Target 

846
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:37,700
discrepancy. 
I'm more excited about the fact 

847
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:40,900
that he's just out there. 
Running a ton of routes for 

848
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:45,100
running back for sure. 
I think this is a good macro 

849
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,700
question from Lulu. 
Mentioning should we be getting 

850
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:51,900
all of our handcuffs at least 
qbr be in leagues that stop 

851
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:55,000
waivers, of course, you know ffp
C waivers walking here. 

852
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Soon, Lou using the example like
if Jacobs is a mere white better

853
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,100
than Hasty Warren. 
I'm cured. 

854
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,600
I'll let you go first Sam. 
How do you think about this idea

855
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,500
of who you would prefer 
assuming? 

856
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:10,700
All of these guys were 
available? 

857
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:15,100
Are you handcuffing your guy or 
you trying to Bink to starting 

858
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,100
running backs? 
Potentially, if an injury 

859
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:20,900
occurs? 
Yeah, that's a good question. 

860
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,900
I think I'm going to cop out a 
little bit and say like if 

861
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:26,800
you're in tournament formats I 
would go for the higher upside 

862
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:31,700
Atta G of trying to bank. 
The second handcuffed like not 

863
00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:34,700
your own handcuffed, but some 
other running backs handcuffed 

864
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,800
because you're really trying to 
maximize your total points. 

865
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,900
And if you're sort of betting 
that you're starting running 

866
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:43,300
back gets injured. 
You might not be able to do that

867
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,700
anyways, but if you're in sort 
of a traditional managed League 

868
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,800
I think it's totally. 
Okay. 

869
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,700
At this point just you know say 
you have really stacked team and

870
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:54,500
you have Dalvin, cook go, grab 
Alexander Madison, you have Josh

871
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:56,700
Jacobs, go grab some more white 
because in those leagues. 

872
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,900
Don't need the absolute nut 
ceiling. 

873
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:02,100
You probably just need like some
decent scores throughout the 

874
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:06,100
playoffs to win. 
So I think I think that's how I 

875
00:47:06,107 --> 00:47:08,600
would think about it. 
And then I'd also just consider 

876
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,900
like, not all handcuffs are are 
treated equal. 

877
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:14,900
I think there's some guys where 
we can have a lot more 

878
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:18,300
confidence in them having a big 
role or maybe their team 

879
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:22,000
situation is just really strong.
So you know, for Alexander 

880
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,400
Madison for instance we can feel
really confident. 

881
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,400
He's going to be huge role of 
cook. 

882
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,300
Goes out that offense is Is 
firing at this point this 

883
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:33,000
season, so I'd much rather have 
him then, you know, Benny Snell 

884
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,400
because we're not even sure if 
he's going to be the guy. 

885
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,800
The Pittsburgh offense is 
terrible. 

886
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,300
So I consider those Team level 
factors as well as how confident

887
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:43,300
we are in the Handcuff. 
Is he actually going to get that

888
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:46,700
role if the starter goes out? 
Yeah, I think that's a really 

889
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:48,500
good point. 
Like you said, you know, Lou 

890
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:50,900
mentioning, you know jamychal 
Hasty. 

891
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:53,700
I'm pretty excited about 
jamychal Hasty as a handcuffed 

892
00:47:53,700 --> 00:47:57,000
because he's shown one, they use
them in the passing game into 

893
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,700
It's very explosive with his 
touches. 

894
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,500
He's had multiple I want to say 
touchdowns over 40 plus yards 

895
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:04,700
whereas like Benny Snell. 
He's going to be more the 

896
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:06,400
grinder. 
They're mixing and Anthony 

897
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,300
McFarland. 
So like knowing what you're 

898
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:10,900
getting, you know, just the 
names that Lou mentioned I think

899
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:14,100
I put Samir white first just 
because I think they would give 

900
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:17,700
him pretty close to the full 
Josh Jacobs role then jamychal 

901
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:20,000
Hasty after that and then Benny 
Snell. 

902
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,700
So I think in general I just 
want to power rank like who is 

903
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:27,300
the guy who could have a path to
a true Bell cow roller at East 

904
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:30,000
80, 90 percent of that. 
And then go from there. 

905
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,800
I'm like you, I always want to 
prioritize trying to get a 

906
00:48:33,808 --> 00:48:37,600
second, you know, starting 
running back on my roster as far

907
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,000
as as opposed to kind of 
protecting my existing 

908
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,100
investment. 
I will say again, as now I'm not

909
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:47,100
talking in circles here, like 
with the Josh Jacobs 

910
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,700
uncertainty, with his health 
like zamir, white is just upset 

911
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:53,900
objectively, a good pick up 
regardless of, whether you have 

912
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,600
him or not. 
So ideally, I'd be trying to get

913
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,000
both of those. 
Those guys on but I don't think 

914
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,400
I don't think it's bad to go 
hard after zamir white just 

915
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,600
because you have Josh Jacobs. 
No, I don't think it's bad 

916
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,200
either and you know, oftentimes 
in these really deeply because 

917
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,600
like There's not a ton of 
options out there and I am not 

918
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,800
like so anti handcuffing. 
To the point that I wouldn't 

919
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,500
make a bid for some, your wife, 
just because I've Jacobs. 

920
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:22,900
Like I think there's definitely 
some universes where Jacob Smith

921
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:25,800
is a week. 
You have both and like you can 

922
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,400
still Place really well in the 
main event or whatever. 

923
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,700
It's certainly not impossible. 
Yeah. 

924
00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:34,200
Met Matt socks referencing, 
Darrell Henderson. 

925
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:37,300
I guess I should say. 
I'm not that worried about 

926
00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:39,700
Darrell had her sit as someone 
who started drill Henderson. 

927
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,500
Across the board in a lot of 
leagues, this year. 

928
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:45,300
I don't really think he has much
left in the tank to me. 

929
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:47,400
Darrell Henderson is more 
saying, hey, we don't feel 

930
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,700
comfortable with what we're 
getting from. 

931
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:53,100
Snoop Connor right now is kind 
of what I read that as but I 

932
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:55,700
guess you could say that that 
muddies the water a little bit 

933
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,800
with the Handcuff situation. 
Yeah. 

934
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,700
I'm also not worried. 
I mean, we've seen guys signed 

935
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:04,800
off, I don't know. 
Sometimes we've seen guys saw in

936
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,300
off the street and they're 
immediately on the active 

937
00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:08,900
roster, like the fact that 
they're real Henderson was a 

938
00:50:08,908 --> 00:50:12,800
healthy scratch. 
I think is somewhat bearish for 

939
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,900
I'm but yeah, I agree I'm he was
really bad this year, the Rams 

940
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,900
just straight-up caught in, you 
know, I think Casey played well 

941
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:23,900
enough where I'm not worried. 
I think he could definitely take

942
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:26,000
the stoop. 
Connor like third in the pecking

943
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,200
order position but I don't have 
a lot of confidence in him 

944
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:31,300
moving his way up the the depth 
chart. 

945
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,300
Yeah, cool. 
We'll skip the the gross backup 

946
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:43,800
running back chart here and jump
into The wide receivers for this

947
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,500
week. 
I think a couple interesting 

948
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:52,200
situation to discuss, certainly 
not as many as at running back. 

949
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,200
There's just clearly not as much
in flux. 

950
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,500
Not as much contingent value. 
A couple things I do want to hit

951
00:50:57,500 --> 00:51:01,800
on though. 
Chicago Darnell Mooney is now 

952
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,500
out for the season with an ankle
injury. 

953
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:09,200
I believe, you know, the Chicago
passing offense had not been 

954
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,200
producing a ton from a It's a 
perspective but things had been 

955
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,600
trending up with fields in the 
past couple weeks. 

956
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,800
You know, we saw Cole combat go 
off for some big games. 

957
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,200
Even some uni. 
Make some deep plays down the 

958
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,700
field. 
So here's my question for you, 

959
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:26,300
Pete. 
Are you I think Claypool is 

960
00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:28,700
like, the one potentially. 
Interesting guy here. 

961
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,700
Are you like, how are you 
thinking about, Claypool the 

962
00:51:33,700 --> 00:51:37,700
rest of the way in Chicago, with
Mooney? 

963
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,000
Now, out for the year? 
Do you think there's a chance? 

964
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,700
He becomes Sort of a Target hog 
albeit in, you know, a low, a 

965
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:47,600
low volume passing offense. 
Yeah, this one's tough. 

966
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,900
I mean, first of all, all of 
this conversation is moot. 

967
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:53,100
If Justin Fields is in playing, 
right? 

968
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:56,900
You know, like, if this injury, 
lingers, or if he's not back to 

969
00:51:56,900 --> 00:51:59,100
full health and it's just like, 
we want no piece of this 

970
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:01,400
offense. 
But yeah, I guess I would just, 

971
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,900
I think I'm being more cautious 
with it and that I would think 

972
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:07,900
of him as like a slightly plus 
version of Mooney. 

973
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:10,500
Maybe Mooney with more targets 
where it's still. 

974
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,400
Be few and far between. 
I mean, maybe with this, be 

975
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,200
another good comp, like you 
think of them like Drake London 

976
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,100
in the Falcons offense where 
it's like, yeah, we like his 

977
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,100
profile. 
We like his talent, but this 

978
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:25,600
team still isn't going to throw 
enough for him to be consistent 

979
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,300
on a week-to-week basis, but 
then you watch him, you know, 

980
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:31,600
pull this insane catch down on 
sauce Gardner, and it's hard not

981
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,900
to get excited about him, but 
man, it's just with this 

982
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:37,000
offense, I just there's no 
consistency. 

983
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,300
There's no Baseline level of 
targets that you can expect for 

984
00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:40,700
him. 
Him. 

985
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:45,300
Yeah, I agree with that. 
I think the floor is going to be

986
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:48,500
super low. 
I do think like compared to 

987
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:50,400
London. 
Like I'd rather have Claypool 

988
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,900
and London at this point. 
I think he's maybe and sort of 

989
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:56,800
the DJ more range for me just 
because I think there there is 

990
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,600
some ceiling there. 
We saw some massive 20 plus 

991
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,000
games from colca met. 
I think it feels his back. 

992
00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:07,100
The past catching could condense
on this offense around either 

993
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,800
Claypool or commit in a given 
week. 

994
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,800
I guess, another thing to note 
with Claypool, he had been 

995
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,800
really behind in routes. 
I think he was like 5th and 

996
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,900
routes the week before on 
Chicago and he jumped all the 

997
00:53:19,908 --> 00:53:24,100
way up to First and routes run 
on that team and ran 21 of 28 

998
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:28,000
routes saw five targets. 
That was the most of any wide 

999
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,000
receiver on the team, this past 
week. 

1000
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,300
So at least we can feel 
confident. 

1001
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:36,600
I think that he's going to lead 
the team in routes. 

1002
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,700
It may not be like 95% routes 
run, but it should be pretty 

1003
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:43,200
high. 
So yeah I think there's upside 

1004
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,300
there but yeah the floor is like
scary low. 

1005
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:50,500
I think we can't even read that.
Sure like what Claypool is a 

1006
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:54,200
talent as a talented this point?
You know, it's been kind of up 

1007
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,800
and down there so I'm optimistic
for some upside but I'm not like

1008
00:53:59,900 --> 00:54:02,500
going to rely on him as a 
reliable. 

1009
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,400
We can we get starter the other.
The other thing, I'll just 

1010
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,400
mention for the Bears to not 
only do they have a by coming up

1011
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,500
They play the Packers this week 
then they have a by then they 

1012
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:17,500
play the Eagles and the bills so
it's like it's a pretty rough 

1013
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:21,800
stretch as far as like what kind
of production you can expect. 

1014
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,800
Obviously at least the time 
should allow fields to get 

1015
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,200
healthy. 
But it's a rocky road there for 

1016
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,900
the Bears. 
Yeah. 

1017
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:33,200
That that's for sure. 
Okay. 

1018
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,500
And then another thing, I don't 
think I don't know a lot like 

1019
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,600
Connor and I talked to these 
charts every week. 

1020
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,400
I think stuff. 
Has kind of stabilized a lot of 

1021
00:54:42,408 --> 00:54:44,000
names. 
You'd expect in the top right 

1022
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,200
corner there but one I think one
interesting, one and discuss is 

1023
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:52,600
the Arizona, receiver core with 
Marquis Brown coming back. 

1024
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,100
Last week, we had really seen 
Hopkins, be sort of an elite 

1025
00:54:56,100 --> 00:55:00,400
Target hog with brown, add the 
lineup and likewise we had sort 

1026
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,900
of seed Marquis Brown be close 
to an elite Target. 

1027
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:05,300
Hog with with Hopkins out of the
lineup. 

1028
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:08,600
How do you, you know, have sort 
of one week of data with them 

1029
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,000
both playing, I guess. 
Like, who would you? 

1030
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:15,000
Who would you prefer the rest of
the way between Hopkins and 

1031
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,600
Marquis Brown? 
And do you think, you know, are 

1032
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,200
they both back in water, Seaver 
ones, and then more back and 

1033
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,700
wide receiver to is like how are
you sort of thinking about these

1034
00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:26,100
guys going forward? 
Yeah, this, this one's tough. 

1035
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:29,600
I mean, first of all we have 
classic Kliff Kingsbury saying 

1036
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,300
that Marquis Brown is going to 
be on a pitch count in his first

1037
00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:36,700
game back and then in basically 
playing every single snap you 

1038
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:41,400
know, DeAndre Hopkins part of 
why we've been Excited about him

1039
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,800
for fantasy is because he just 
has this insane Target share and

1040
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,800
with Marquis Brown coming back 
and this was a game that didn't 

1041
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,600
have Greg dorit or Rondell more 
playing and Rondo more have 

1042
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,100
been, you know, hoovering up, 
you know, eight to nine targets 

1043
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:57,900
himself. 
And so, I will say, I think I'm 

1044
00:55:57,900 --> 00:55:59,900
most worried about DeAndre 
Hopkins. 

1045
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:02,200
Honestly. 
Just knowing, can he maintain 

1046
00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:03,200
this? 
What did he have? 

1047
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,100
Like a 30 plus percent Target? 
Share for that stretch, when 

1048
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:10,300
these guys come back and I think
the hope is for Marquis Brown. 

1049
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:13,100
At least, this was always the 
thesis all along of like, yeah, 

1050
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:15,300
he's not going to get as many 
targets, but you should 

1051
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:18,200
hopefully offset that with 
increased inefficiency, maybe a 

1052
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,200
higher, a DOT, some shots down 
the field with these other guys 

1053
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,800
soaking up attention. 
So I think I'm less worried 

1054
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,800
about Marquis Brown and just 
worried does DeAndre Hopkins, 

1055
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:31,100
you know, have such a big chunk 
taken out of his Target share. 

1056
00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:38,000
Yeah, I think that is the player
I'm most worried about as well. 

1057
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,500
And yeah, that, that Look at his
targets. 

1058
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:46,800
You know, his targets about six 
weeks since he's been back 

1059
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,600
14:13, then he had sort of 
anomaly down to five and it 

1060
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,200
started way back then 1412 and 
then five. 

1061
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,300
So, you know, these games 
Riyadh, well, you had four out 

1062
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,200
of the six games this year. 
He's had 12 plus targets. 

1063
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,900
I don't think we're going to see
that going forward. 

1064
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:08,800
Now with Marquis Brown back and 
like you said if Dortch or 

1065
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,400
Rondell more is in there 
especially more I think they're 

1066
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,100
gonna draw some targets. 
More than sort of the AJ Green, 

1067
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:17,400
Robbie Anderson guys are able 
to. 

1068
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:22,000
So yeah, I'm slightly concerned 
for Hopkins. 

1069
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,700
I was sort of touting him as 
like a top 5. 

1070
00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:28,500
Top 6 wide receiver. 
Give him what he did before 

1071
00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:34,200
Brown got back but I'm certainly
backing off of that considerably

1072
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,700
now. 
But in this this offense just 

1073
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:42,800
all year has not shown a ceiling
where you're like oh this This 

1074
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,400
could support, you know, two to 
three guys in in big game 

1075
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,000
scenarios. 
The only thing that you can hang

1076
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,200
your hat on with the Cardinals 
is that do have one of the best 

1077
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,600
playoff schedules, as far as 
they get the Broncos, then 

1078
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,400
they're at home versus the box 
and then they play the Falcons. 

1079
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:03,900
So, three pretty nice games 
there as far as the Cardinal 

1080
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:06,800
schedule. 
But yeah, I just have so little 

1081
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,300
faith and Cliff and in this 
offense to really give us a 

1082
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:13,100
ceiling performances, if it's 
not just volume, Driven. 

1083
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,800
Yeah. 
So you may be some actual bus. 

1084
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,900
If you have Hopkins on maybe see
like can you trade them for CD 

1085
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,000
lamb? 
Can you trade them for DK? 

1086
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,600
Metcalf plus can you trade them 
for AJ Brown? 

1087
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,600
Like I would maybe be targeting 
some of those guys because 

1088
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,900
people will see Hopkins, 20 
fantasy points per game and be 

1089
00:58:28,900 --> 00:58:33,100
like, wow, like that's a steal. 
I think, maybe that's, that's 

1090
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:34,800
some moves. 
You could try to make with 

1091
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Hopkins and your leagues where 
you can still trade. 

1092
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,500
Cool. 
Let's let's move on here. 

1093
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:49,200
To the next wide. 
Receiver chart, I didn't have a 

1094
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,500
ton a ton here, again, sort of 
stable from what we've seen from

1095
00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:56,500
past weeks. 
I will call out that, that 

1096
00:58:56,500 --> 00:59:02,200
Garrett Wilson, look, he's 
earning a pretty sizable role at

1097
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,500
sort of, 55 way to Target spear 
out Ron that's in the same range

1098
00:59:05,500 --> 00:59:09,500
of guys like Chris Godwin. 
Mike Williams T Higgins and I 

1099
00:59:09,508 --> 00:59:13,800
just expect like the overall 
volume bump With with my quite 

1100
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,100
coming in to be really strong 
for Wilson but we've already 

1101
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:20,200
talked through that a bit. 
I think another sort of quick 

1102
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,500
note on these guys, Michael 
Gallop seem to clearly regain 

1103
00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:27,500
the wide receiver to roll in 
Dallas last week that was 

1104
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:29,800
notable. 
You had been running behind Noah

1105
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Brown. 
He still hasn't really put up, 

1106
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:36,400
you know, a big signature 
Fantasy Point performance, but I

1107
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,900
do think it's coming for Gallop,
so I think he's sort of a strong

1108
00:59:40,900 --> 00:59:42,400
GFS play in the right matchups. 
Going. 

1109
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:48,000
Forward just given the routes. 
He's running now but yappy. 

1110
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,500
Any thoughts here on some of 
these these are all receivers in

1111
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:55,100
the 70 to 85 percent routes run 
territory. 

1112
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:57,500
Any thoughts on some of these? 
These guys here? 

1113
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,400
Yeah, I'm curious. 
Your thoughts on the Chiefs wide

1114
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,800
receivers. 
We have Juju who didn't 

1115
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,700
necessarily Play the full 
complement of snaps. 

1116
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:09,500
It sounds like that was 
partially driven by the fact 

1117
01:00:09,500 --> 01:00:11,500
that he was returning from 
concussion. 

1118
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:15,400
We saw obviously, Justin Watson 
Sky more mixing in there could 

1119
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,400
area Stony out. 
Obviously, this is a riddle. 

1120
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,900
We want to crack because there's
so much opportunity in the 

1121
01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:22,900
Chiefs offense. 
But how are you thinking about 

1122
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:25,000
Juju? 
And some of these ancillary 

1123
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,400
pieces. 
Yeah, that that's a good 

1124
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,000
question. 
Sort of how I thought about Juju

1125
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,600
all year, and let's, let's 
assume now, I think he will go 

1126
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,000
back to to his full roll next 
week. 

1127
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,000
I kind of assumed this was just 
a one-week wrapping up here and 

1128
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,400
coming off the concussion. 
I expect him to go back to the 

1129
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:53,000
sort of 80% ish routes, you 
know, 75% ish routes territory 

1130
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,500
that had been at so far this 
year, but yeah, good kind of how

1131
01:00:56,500 --> 01:00:58,100
I've been you and JuJu this 
year's. 

1132
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:03,800
He has like the this very 
middling role, but it's in the 

1133
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,100
Chiefs offense and that makes 
him a lot more valuable than he 

1134
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:10,600
would be otherwise. 
Like if you look at all the rate

1135
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,300
stats he's not going to pop and 
waited targets for Route run. 

1136
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,200
He's not going to pop in that 
sort of metric, but the Chiefs 

1137
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,700
are just running a ton of plays.
He's attached to Patrick 

1138
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:24,000
Mahomes, it's kind of like 
similar to how I view gave Davis

1139
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,900
almost where like, I don't. 
I think at this point in their 

1140
01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:30,500
career, either them or super 
talented players, but just 

1141
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:35,000
because of the offenses they're 
tied to, they still have pretty 

1142
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,000
big ceilings obviously in 
different ways you know. 

1143
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,200
Gabe Davis is more of a ceiling 
from a deep play perspective and

1144
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,900
JuJu probably the ceiling is 
catching a bunch of passes 

1145
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:48,200
underneath and maybe taking one 
along, you know, yards after the

1146
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,700
catch player. 
Something but anyways, that's 

1147
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:55,200
kind of how thinking about Juju,
I do like expect him to have the

1148
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,500
most Value in the Chiefs wide 
receiver room going forward. 

1149
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:03,800
But yeah, at the end of the day,
it's still like sort of a 

1150
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:07,100
middling meddling roll. 
Yeah. 

1151
01:02:07,700 --> 01:02:10,100
One other situation that's kind 
of interesting is we were 

1152
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:13,400
starting to see a little bit of 
a little bit of a battle between

1153
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,600
Nico Collins and Brandin Cooks 
for the wide receiver. 

1154
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,800
One role in Houston you know 
Kyle Allen taking over kind of 

1155
01:02:20,808 --> 01:02:24,600
throws a wrench in whatever 
continuity we had there but is 

1156
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,800
it safe to say Nico? 
Has usurped. 

1157
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,100
Brandin Cooks are you not 
willing to go that far yet? 

1158
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:35,900
I think ya can the right answer 
be like I just don't care 

1159
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:40,300
because they're on the Texan 
very I think with DFS Bros need 

1160
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:42,400
to run these Texans in our bring
back Sam. 

1161
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,800
Yeah I think if I was if I was 
going to play a Texans wide 

1162
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,500
receiver it would be Nico at 
this point. 

1163
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:57,300
Just from a snaps perspective he
has I think Been consistently 

1164
01:02:57,300 --> 01:03:00,800
out out, snapping, Brandin Cooks
and running more routes on him, 

1165
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,500
the past couple weeks, they're 
using a bit of a weird rotation.

1166
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:08,000
Now, with Chris Moore and Dorset
getting getting more and more 

1167
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,400
involved. 
And that seems to be at the 

1168
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,300
expense more. 
So of cooks, then then Nico 

1169
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:16,200
Collins. 
But yeah, I mean, my real answer

1170
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,100
would probably be like whatever 
one is going to be owned last, 

1171
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:23,300
if you can predict that I would 
just go with it. 

1172
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:25,000
Go with that one. 
I know. 

1173
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,100
And DFS is he Hasn't been as 
easy as just looking at the 

1174
01:03:28,107 --> 01:03:30,600
ownership projections and and 
going off that. 

1175
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,800
But yeah, that's one where I 
sort of flip a coin and fade the

1176
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,800
field. 
One more for you here on this 

1177
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,700
one. 
You know, Chris Godwin has a 

1178
01:03:39,700 --> 01:03:41,500
massive game. 
Last week. 

1179
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:46,000
Mike Evans continues to be so 
close to some big deep ball 

1180
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,900
catches. 
They just don't quite get there.

1181
01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:51,400
How are you thinking about Chris
Godwin going forward? 

1182
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,500
Do you think we can expect this 
level of volume where you at 

1183
01:03:55,500 --> 01:03:57,900
kind? 
Of with the Buccaneers passing 

1184
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:01,500
offense. 
Yeah, I'm pretty excited about 

1185
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:03,700
God. 
When I think if you drafted 

1186
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:08,900
Godwin this was always sort of 
the thesis of the play in that 

1187
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,100
he would start the season a 
little bit slow you know most 

1188
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:13,700
guys coming off ACL tears, do 
that. 

1189
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:16,100
And then down the stretch with 
start to feel more confident 

1190
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:19,500
that knee get more playing time 
and and really have some big 

1191
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:24,000
games for to return to his form 
for the past couple years. 

1192
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:29,700
And I think we're On track for 
that with Godwin, I don't have a

1193
01:04:29,707 --> 01:04:32,700
strong take between, you know, 
him verse Evans for the rest of 

1194
01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:36,900
the season, but I would now put 
them like right back to back and

1195
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:40,000
whatever rankings you have. 
I think they profile. 

1196
01:04:40,300 --> 01:04:44,200
Pretty similar from sort of a 
Target earning perspective. 

1197
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,800
And yeah, I'm I'm still excited 
about the box. 

1198
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,700
I mean, this is more of like a 
film grinder take, but when I 

1199
01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:55,700
watch them, it doesn't look like
anything's like wrong. 

1200
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:59,200
With Brady. 
He seems to be like overthrowing

1201
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,700
some guys deep more than he dish
traditionally would, but it 

1202
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:04,900
doesn't look like his arm 
strength is gone or anything 

1203
01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:08,100
like that. 
Like, I think we could still see

1204
01:05:08,700 --> 01:05:12,800
a bucks offensive explosion at 
some point this year. 

1205
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:17,200
So I'd be pretty excited about 
Godwin going down the stretch. 

1206
01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:20,500
Yeah, I agree. 
Another team that also just has 

1207
01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:24,300
a really beautiful playoff 
schedule home versus The Bangles

1208
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:25,700
then they on the road again, 
Sarah. 

1209
01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:26,900
Ozone. 
And then home versus the 

1210
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:29,400
Panthers in week. 17. 
Yeah. 

1211
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,700
Going to shout-out to Chris. 
I appreciate that. 

1212
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:39,900
It rain. 
Yeah, even then my you venmo you

1213
01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:44,000
Sam. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1214
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,000
That's that's big money for 
saturation. 

1215
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,100
We appreciate that. 
Chris even though you're 

1216
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:52,100
slandering my God Mariota in the
chat. 

1217
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:56,400
Also flash up that comment. 
Yeah, last wide receiver thing. 

1218
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,600
I wanted to get your thoughts on
this. 

1219
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,500
These Are now we're not showing 
the guys with 40 to 70% of 

1220
01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:06,000
routes. 
Ron, you're more rotational 

1221
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,000
guys. 
The one interesting guy here 

1222
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,300
obviously well there's a couple 
but the one I want to talk about

1223
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:14,800
Christian Watson. 
If you look at is weighted 

1224
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,500
targets for Route, Ron again 
that's targets for about run but

1225
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:21,100
adjusted for depth of Target 
Christian. 

1226
01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:25,300
Watson has a pretty Elite 
weighted targets for Route Ron. 

1227
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:29,100
He's close to the 70 percent 
range, that's close to guys like

1228
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:33,100
DeAndre Hopkins. 
Ins higher than Justin 

1229
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:37,500
Jefferson. 
It's really a pretty impressive,

1230
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:40,400
Mark, if you you put them in the
context of other top wide 

1231
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,800
receivers in the league. 
And now we are seeing here. 

1232
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,600
He's shown at 40 to 50 percent 
routes run because is average 

1233
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:51,700
across the whole year, but he is
running almost a full slate of 

1234
01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:55,000
routes. 
Now, in, in Green Bay, I think 

1235
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:59,400
he led the team in routes run 
this past week. 

1236
01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:03,700
Or do you s Allen Lazard but 
25:28 routes, run, I believe 

1237
01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:05,500
you'd love the team and routes 
run the week before. 

1238
01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:11,000
So yeah, curious Pete is 
Christian Watson, you know, is 

1239
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,100
he like an every week wide 
receiver to now going forward. 

1240
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:18,000
Are you still sort of hesitant 
to fire him up? 

1241
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:23,300
Well, I was going to turn this 
back on you and I think it will 

1242
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,800
allow you to know where I'm kind
of valuing him at, but let me 

1243
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:29,800
these three wide receivers. 
How would you rank them? 

1244
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:31,800
A who you would want rest of 
season. 

1245
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:35,500
Christian, Watson, Gabe Davis 
Divan to Smith. 

1246
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:43,200
Oh, that's tough. 
I would, you know, with some 

1247
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,000
sort of off the cuff, I think I 
would go. 

1248
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:53,000
Devaugntah Smith, Christian 
Watson then gave Davis. 

1249
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:59,300
I think, just like, obviously, 
the volume in Buffalo is going 

1250
01:07:59,300 --> 01:08:03,600
to be strong, but Gabe Davis 
just can't learn targets like if

1251
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:08,300
you go to that last chart or the
first start, we have gay Davis 

1252
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:12,100
like at 40% targets for about 
Ron, he's like way over in the 

1253
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:15,900
left side of the chart. 
Christian Watson just when he's 

1254
01:08:15,900 --> 01:08:18,200
on the field is earning a lot 
more targets than Gabe. 

1255
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:24,300
Davis is he's now earning a full
route Tree in in Green Bay. 

1256
01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:26,500
I think it's slow. 
Go Smith over both those guys, I

1257
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:30,300
feel more confident in the 
overall offense in Philadelphia 

1258
01:08:30,300 --> 01:08:32,399
than I do in Green Bay. 
You know, we have to Rogers 

1259
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:35,500
injury, and I feel just like a 
little bit better about the 

1260
01:08:35,508 --> 01:08:38,600
talent and devaugntah just 
because we Bigger sample size 

1261
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,700
with him but yeah I think it's 
pretty close. 

1262
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:46,300
Would how so I would go de Volta
Watson Gabe, how do you shake 

1263
01:08:46,300 --> 01:08:49,399
out there Pete? 
I think I'm the exact same in. 

1264
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:54,399
It it more is just how impressed
I've been by Christian Watson 

1265
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:58,000
and Watson has way less Target 
competition. 

1266
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:02,899
Then Gabe Davison like I still 
think and I think everyone would

1267
01:09:02,899 --> 01:09:05,399
agree that get Davis. 
Having a 40-point game down. 

1268
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:07,700
The stretch is still well within
his range of outcomes. 

1269
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,399
Um's, but he's probably gonna 
have, you know, a bunch of five 

1270
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:15,899
point games litter there, and I 
think also seeing them really 

1271
01:09:15,899 --> 01:09:20,000
utilize Isaiah Mackenzie on 
Thanksgiving, was another kind 

1272
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,500
of wrench in the Gabe Davis 
thesis, as far as kind of what 

1273
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:27,300
his Target floor is in just how 
they were using Mackenzie, and 

1274
01:09:27,300 --> 01:09:30,800
it wasn't just even like, you 
know, really close to the line 

1275
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,800
of scrimmage stuff like they 
were getting Isaiah McKenzie, 

1276
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,500
the ball deeper down the field 
to. 

1277
01:09:35,500 --> 01:09:39,800
So I'm a little worried about 
Davis, he still has the upside. 

1278
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,800
But yeah. 
If I'm starting a guy week in 

1279
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,800
and week out, I think you have 
to prefer Watson to him now. 

1280
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:49,800
Yeah, like how it almost thing 
about Gabe Davis is like it's 

1281
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,200
kind of like a juiced-up version
of the old mvs role in Green 

1282
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,400
Bay. 
Like obviously there's more 

1283
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,600
ceiling and gave Davis and he's 
like a little bit of a better 

1284
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,200
title than mvs but like he's 
just running, he's running all 

1285
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,100
the routes but it's a lot of 
like clear out routes and he 

1286
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:07,200
just like gets targeted at such 
a low rate because he's such a 

1287
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,400
hiatus. 
Player. 

1288
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:11,900
So yeah, it obviously can be a 
big ceiling like we've seen 

1289
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:12,900
that. 
I'm not going to doubt this 

1290
01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:15,800
dealing with Gabe Davis, but I 
think we've, you know, Christian

1291
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,400
Watson and his three games where
he's played a full set of 

1292
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,800
routes, has been over 20, PR 
points and all three games. 

1293
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,500
Like I feel pretty and one of 
the games was like 35 points, so

1294
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:28,200
I feel pretty good about the 
ceiling and with Watson as well,

1295
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:32,800
and I think he just has a much 
higher floor than Davis does, so

1296
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:34,600
yeah. 
But that's, that's an 

1297
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:40,200
interesting one to talk through.
Let's jump now unless you have 

1298
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,700
thoughts on trench, your field 
or Richie James. 

1299
01:10:43,700 --> 01:10:48,900
Let's let's jump the tight ends 
quickly to close out before we 

1300
01:10:48,900 --> 01:10:53,400
rip it draft. 
I think a couple like quick hits

1301
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,900
I have here looking at this 
chart we're now looking at Route

1302
01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:01,900
percentage for tight ends so 
percent of their team drawbacks 

1303
01:11:01,900 --> 01:11:03,800
were there. 
Running a route. 

1304
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,500
A couple just quick. 
It's I had number one like I 

1305
01:11:06,508 --> 01:11:09,800
think there's been some concern.
About the Mark Andrews stuff. 

1306
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,600
But his role has still been 
really strong upon his return. 

1307
01:11:13,900 --> 01:11:16,200
And even though, like we haven't
seen those stealing games we saw

1308
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,500
early in the year. 
I think he still has upside. 

1309
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:23,500
He drops a touchdown pass, you 
know, this past week, you know, 

1310
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:25,000
that could have been a bigger 
game. 

1311
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,400
He had just caught that. 
So I'm not like concerned about 

1312
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,600
him. 
Other other quick note straight 

1313
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,200
McBride and Foster Moreau or 
kind of similar in that. 

1314
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,400
They're both kind of running all
the routes for their team but 

1315
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,800
they they can turn Target. 
So that's the type of guy that I

1316
01:11:40,808 --> 01:11:45,900
think about as like maybe maybe 
more stomach proxies a little 

1317
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:49,700
more under the radar like I 
think he's a good DFS Dart. 

1318
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:51,700
I think. 
You know he said two games 

1319
01:11:51,700 --> 01:11:53,700
reason all the routes and done 
absolutely nothing. 

1320
01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:56,700
So he's going to leave a gross 
taste and a lot of people's 

1321
01:11:56,700 --> 01:11:59,500
mouths based on what he's done, 
but just the fact that he's out 

1322
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:05,100
there all the time, he has some 
upside even if he hasn't really 

1323
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:09,400
shown that thus far. 
But yeah, other than that, kind 

1324
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,700
of a lot of what we'd expect at 
tight end. 

1325
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,600
Did you have any any other 
thoughts here? 

1326
01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:17,400
Here, Pete at tight end. 
Yeah, it's interesting. 

1327
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:22,000
The McBride and morose stuff 
because I mean, I definitely 

1328
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,200
been burned by McBride over 
these past couple of weeks and 

1329
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,500
I'm starting to wonder at what 
point is it a massive red flag 

1330
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:30,600
that he isn't earning any 
Targets. 

1331
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,400
Because even though Moreau 
hasn't been setting the world on

1332
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,300
fire, he has been earning a 
couple Red Zone Target. 

1333
01:12:36,300 --> 01:12:38,800
So, you know, he had some near 
misses a couple weeks ago. 

1334
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,500
Finally gets in the end zone 
there, where I'm just so down on

1335
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:44,000
cliff and this Cardinals 
offense. 

1336
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,100
And now train McBride's, not 
earning targets. 

1337
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:48,600
When both? 
Greg torch and Rondell more are 

1338
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,500
out here. 
Like if this guy's not going to 

1339
01:12:50,500 --> 01:12:52,600
get, you know, four to five 
targets over the middle. 

1340
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,900
When these guys are out and Zach
ertz is on, I are like, when the

1341
01:12:55,900 --> 01:13:01,400
fuck is it going to happen? 
Yeah, and I I feel similar and 

1342
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,800
like I think from like a dynasty
perspective like I'm pretty 

1343
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:10,100
concerned about how bad and Ride
has been but just from a weekly 

1344
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:13,400
perspective like we saw this a 
bit with like, commit for the 

1345
01:13:13,407 --> 01:13:16,300
first six weeks of the year 
before he had those Blob games 

1346
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:19,500
with Fields where he was just 
running all the routes earning 

1347
01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:22,700
no targets like just doing. 
Absolutely nothing for you and 

1348
01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:25,900
then all of a sudden when the 
offense turns around he has you 

1349
01:13:25,907 --> 01:13:30,200
know to touch down 80 yard game 
whatever it was and you know 

1350
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,400
probably wins you some money in 
DFS. 

1351
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,800
Oh my thought at titanes just 
like sometimes just plug your 

1352
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,300
nose and Play the guy that's 
earning all the routes. 

1353
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:44,000
Even if his Target rate is 
really disgusting because the 

1354
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:48,600
field is probably like 
overreacting to to how bad he's 

1355
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,500
been. 
So yeah that's that's my thought

1356
01:13:51,500 --> 01:13:54,900
there with McBride but yeah, I 
see your point. 

1357
01:13:54,900 --> 01:13:58,400
It's certainly concerning when 
you know, it seems like all the 

1358
01:13:58,900 --> 01:14:02,700
factors with more and doors 
being out would lead him to 

1359
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:04,700
getting targets. 
He doesn't even perform then so 

1360
01:14:04,700 --> 01:14:07,100
it's it's definitely been 
disappointing with them. 

1361
01:14:07,900 --> 01:14:12,300
Of all of these guys kind of on 
the right side of the chart who 

1362
01:14:12,300 --> 01:14:14,400
are kind of your tight end to 
streamers. 

1363
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,600
You know, anyone this year has 
either cycled through these guys

1364
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:22,100
on season-long leagues have 
punted it off with them in DFS, 

1365
01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:27,300
you know, basically the Logan 
Thomas, the K, dot --and, the 

1366
01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:32,100
jajuan Johnson, Austin Hooper 
like is anyone have a pulse here

1367
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:36,600
or are these all just going to 
be super low for Dart throws 

1368
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:43,800
week to week. 
Yeah, that's so I think if I'm 

1369
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,900
looking at that list now, Hunter
Henry jumps out a little bit to 

1370
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:52,700
me, just in that Jacoby Myers. 
I think we'll miss the game, so 

1371
01:14:52,700 --> 01:14:58,300
I think that that raises Henry's
floor and ceiling, you know, 

1372
01:14:58,900 --> 01:15:00,900
last year, he was a guy who had 
a bunch of multi-touch down 

1373
01:15:00,900 --> 01:15:05,000
games. 
I think like that could still 

1374
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,400
happen this year. 
So I think he'd be the guide 

1375
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:12,200
Patek, I do want to point out 
jajuan Johnson, I think has been

1376
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,800
canceled actually, Troutman out,
snapped, him and ran more 

1377
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,000
routes. 
And I'm this past week. 

1378
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:22,500
So, you know, whatever like the 
usability with jajuan Johnson. 

1379
01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:26,600
I think is gone, even though he 
shows up at this chart here. 

1380
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:30,000
Okay. 
So he didn't get, he was out 

1381
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,100
snapped by Troutman Troutman and
taysom Hill, ran 14 and 15 

1382
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:38,200
routes and Juwan ran 19. 
So he was running like Just over

1383
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:43,000
50% of his team's routes, which 
is not, not very good there for 

1384
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,800
him. 
So, yeah, I do back, tears will 

1385
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,300
question, Tyler. 
Higbee is like an offensive 

1386
01:15:49,300 --> 01:15:54,000
lineman. 
Now, I think like a hunter 

1387
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,200
Henry, out of that list of names
is the guy I'm most excited 

1388
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:01,500
about. 
They're the only thing I do. 

1389
01:16:01,500 --> 01:16:03,400
Want to point out quickly. 
David and joke. 

1390
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,500
Ooh, there was some concern as 
first week back that he had kind

1391
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:10,600
of a limited role Roll. 
He was pretty like last week he 

1392
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,000
was back to you know close to 
his full-time role. 

1393
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:17,600
So I think you can fire up in 
Joker with with confidence and a

1394
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,700
specially with the Sean coming 
back. 

1395
01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:26,600
But yeah, that's in anything 
else. 

1396
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:31,300
Yeah we should talk about this 
Jelani Woods having a massive 

1397
01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:33,800
game last night. 
I know all of our tight end 

1398
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:38,000
premium Bros are interested in 
him and basically Anyone who has

1399
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,300
a pulse at tight end is 
relevant. 

1400
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:41,600
Yeah. 
What's your take on? 

1401
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:45,300
Jelani is big game. 
Yeah, I would, I would like 

1402
01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:48,400
closely modeled with Jelani. 
I would closely monitor the Kyle

1403
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,900
and grants and injury news. 
I think like that really allowed

1404
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:57,600
him to could run more routes 
than he normally would have. 

1405
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,300
But yeah, he had 27 routes on 
39. 

1406
01:17:01,300 --> 01:17:06,100
Matt Ryan drawbacks Mo, Ali 
cocks only had 11 so almost sort

1407
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:09,600
of tripling them up. 
In in routes, I think that's a 

1408
01:17:09,608 --> 01:17:12,400
really good sign for Jelani and 
his Prospect profile. 

1409
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,400
If I remember correctly was, you
know, he's basically a freak 

1410
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,800
athlete. 
I want to say, he has a 

1411
01:17:18,808 --> 01:17:22,000
basketball background but kind 
of more of like a wide receiver.

1412
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,900
Pass-catching tight end, then 
then a blocker. 

1413
01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:28,900
So I think someone you can be a 
little bit excited about and 

1414
01:17:28,900 --> 01:17:31,100
Dynasty. 
And with the Colt season, you 

1415
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:33,600
know, kind of going down the 
drain. 

1416
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,000
I don't see why they wouldn't 
see what they have. 

1417
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:40,500
In this guy going down the 
stretch. 

1418
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:43,800
So yeah, certainly someone like 
if he's on waivers and you're 

1419
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,400
desperate for 10 points, I think
you can spend a decent bit of 

1420
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,600
Fab on him, but I just be 
careful, starting him, you know,

1421
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,600
when Colin dries in his back. 
Yeah, that's the thing. 

1422
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,800
I mean, we, you just don't see 
it in the same way we sometimes 

1423
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,900
see, with wide receivers and 
running backs, where it's like, 

1424
01:17:59,900 --> 01:18:03,100
these guys pop up for a big 
game, and then there's positive,

1425
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:05,200
you know, inertia in their role 
grows. 

1426
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,100
It's like, you could have jajuan
Johnson, you know, No score a 

1427
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:11,000
touchdown in four or five games 
and then get caught by Adam 

1428
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,800
Troutman, like that just happens
at tight end. 

1429
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:18,200
In a way, it doesn't seem to 
happen at other positions, Yeah,

1430
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,700
and like with the Colts, I the 
mo Ali, cockscomb stuff comes to

1431
01:18:21,700 --> 01:18:24,300
mind where he's always been a 
guy that his peripherals of 

1432
01:18:24,300 --> 01:18:26,300
looked really good. 
He's got a high Target rate. 

1433
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,500
I've wanted to chase that for a 
while and it just hasn't hasn't 

1434
01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:34,000
seemed to work out for him. 
So, Yeah. 

1435
01:18:34,300 --> 01:18:37,400
Yeah, cautiously optimistic 
under Lonnie but not someone. 

1436
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:45,600
I'm overly excited about cool. 
Well, I think that's all I had 

1437
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,300
at tight end. 
Not any other injuries or 

1438
01:18:48,308 --> 01:18:50,800
anything I can think of, for 
this week. 

1439
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,200
So, does it make sense to get an
underdog Underdog laughter? 

1440
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,800
Let's get a draft. 
Do you want me to pull it up or 

1441
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,700
do you want to pull it up? 
Yeah, you can pull it up if you 

1442
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:07,800
want your Little more Nimble and
getting the pics and you wanted 

1443
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,100
how about we do a goal-line 
stand. 

1444
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:13,900
So we get a 12 12 person draft 
instead of the quick six 

1445
01:19:13,900 --> 01:19:15,600
hitters. 
Yeah that sounds good. 

1446
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,900
All right, who wants to hop in a
goal-line stand with us here for

1447
01:19:19,900 --> 01:19:23,900
week 12? 
No, current playoff drafts live.

1448
01:19:23,900 --> 01:19:27,100
That first one filled. 
I imagine within the next week 

1449
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:30,700
will probably be get another 
playoff draft up but but not 

1450
01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:34,900
now, Yeah, I'm excited for when 
those come back. 

1451
01:19:34,900 --> 01:19:38,100
I've been sort of digging into 
the the data but they're so 

1452
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,900
definitely going to do some 
statue hastening Focus shows on 

1453
01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:45,600
the playoff tournament once they
come out so we'll see. 

1454
01:19:45,700 --> 01:19:49,400
Okay, draw the four spot here, 
let's see. 

1455
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,200
Yeah, so this is this is a fun 
week. 

1456
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,200
This is one of the first weeks 
in DFS when I've looked across 

1457
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,900
the slate and seen multiple 
games with a total over 50 like 

1458
01:20:00,900 --> 01:20:04,900
that just has not Not happened a
lot this year. 

1459
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,000
So you have the Jacksonville 
Detroit, game, 51 and a half 

1460
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,800
total you have the Casey 
Cincinnati game, 52 and a half 

1461
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,300
and then you have Chargers, 
Raiders 50.5. 

1462
01:20:17,300 --> 01:20:20,800
So we actually have some some 
decent games this week. 

1463
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,700
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1464
01:20:23,700 --> 01:20:25,700
Now that's the the Detroit 
Jacksonville. 

1465
01:20:25,700 --> 01:20:28,300
One jumped out to me that so I 
don't know, but I just think of 

1466
01:20:28,300 --> 01:20:30,100
those two teams. 
I don't immediately think of 

1467
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:32,800
like a shootout but it makes 
That's what their defense is. 

1468
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,100
And both those offenses have 
been playing better recently so 

1469
01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:40,700
that can be sort of a sneakier 
and sneakier one that goes under

1470
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:43,400
the radar a bit so basic 
strategy here. 

1471
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,500
P diamond on a ton of these. 
But like how I sort of thought 

1472
01:20:46,500 --> 01:20:49,200
about them is you want to Stack 
up a game and then with your 

1473
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,700
last couple pics go like a bit 
off of the ADP, radar to get 

1474
01:20:53,700 --> 01:20:56,400
more unique. 
Is that how you've been thinking

1475
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,000
about them like any other 
strategy things? 

1476
01:20:59,500 --> 01:21:02,100
Yeah, so I mean the one thing 
verse the Battle Royale Alice is

1477
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:05,100
it is a little harder like in 
battle royales because there's 

1478
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:07,100
only six teams. 
It's a little easier to kind of 

1479
01:21:07,100 --> 01:21:10,300
dial up your Stacks, whereas 
with the 12 team are like you 

1480
01:21:10,300 --> 01:21:12,700
can just legit get sniped. 
Like you might think your set 

1481
01:21:12,700 --> 01:21:16,600
something up so you have to be a
little careful with that, you 

1482
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,800
know, one thing in general with 
or let's let's have this 

1483
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,500
conversation here. 
I mean for me it's probably 

1484
01:21:21,500 --> 01:21:23,900
Jefferson or Tyreke. 
You have a lien on those two 

1485
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:28,000
guys. 
I would go. 

1486
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,200
I think I would go Jefferson 
here. 

1487
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:38,000
I think it'll be easier to get 
the game stack with the Jets 

1488
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,800
that was sort of the tiebreaker 
singing through. 

1489
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:42,500
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1490
01:21:42,500 --> 01:21:46,300
I mean the one thing to and like
this has been playing out in DFS

1491
01:21:46,300 --> 01:21:49,100
and battle royales. 
Like I'm still Pro stacking. 

1492
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:54,400
I'm just like not forcing bring 
backs if I if I don't need to 

1493
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,400
and this is definitely colored 
by looking at awesomo winning. 

1494
01:21:58,900 --> 01:22:02,300
These tournaments with Raiders 
on slots and not a single 

1495
01:22:02,300 --> 01:22:05,500
Chargers bring back. 
But I do think myself in general

1496
01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:08,700
in the field is probably many 
correlating and bring backing 

1497
01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:13,400
more where I actually think the 
it we always talk about getting 

1498
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,100
less things, right? 
And it's like yeah when you when

1499
01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:18,500
you do a mini correlation or a 
Bring Back, Your actually trying

1500
01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:20,800
to get two things, right? 
Whereas, when you're just 

1501
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,700
betting on one offense, you're 
actually just just getting one 

1502
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:26,000
thing, right? 
And yet I still will be like, 

1503
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,300
all right. 
Garrett, Wilson's available, 

1504
01:22:27,300 --> 01:22:28,400
man. 
We should take care of will sit 

1505
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,900
here. 
So, So life is I've never 

1506
01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:32,600
reaching for those guys. 
But that is one thing. 

1507
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:37,500
I'm trying to check myself on 
more than I did previously. 

1508
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,000
Yeah, that's interesting. 
And I think with like DFS first 

1509
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,800
drafting is different to you. 
Where like if you want to bring 

1510
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,800
back and you're playing DFS, you
always can write because you 

1511
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,600
pick your line up whereas with 
your afternoon, like there can 

1512
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,900
be players in the field that 
wanted to bring back some latest

1513
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,900
can't because of how the draft 
shakes out. 

1514
01:22:53,900 --> 01:22:58,200
So I wonder if it's like still 
slightly better and drafting 

1515
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,300
formats for Yeah, that's 
formats. 

1516
01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:03,600
That's just me postulating. 
They'll like it. 

1517
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,300
I don't know if that's true at 
all. 

1518
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:08,500
Well, I mean you can kind of do 
some comparables where it's 

1519
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:12,300
like, all right. 
Like if you're reaching for, you

1520
01:23:12,300 --> 01:23:15,400
know, say Garrett Wilson, you're
probably sacrificing some 

1521
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,500
projected points, same thing in 
DFS like if you're jamming a 

1522
01:23:18,508 --> 01:23:20,800
bring back in, in your passing 
over a guy. 

1523
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,500
Who's multiple guys who are 
better points per dollar plays? 

1524
01:23:23,900 --> 01:23:26,500
That might be bad, but like as 
the tiebreaker, if you're not 

1525
01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:30,500
sacrificing points like that, 
Ation is worth something and 

1526
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:35,700
should be the tiebreaker. 
Yeah, I would say it's more. 

1527
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,500
I think the other thing that 
then really start to warp your 

1528
01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:41,200
brain and maybe the badge, Bros 
guys, could could weigh in on 

1529
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:46,000
this is that it's probably less 
bad in this format where 

1530
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:51,800
there's, you know, 12 teams, 
whereas in the 60 Murs, it's so 

1531
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,200
easy. 
Like, if you draft just in 

1532
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:54,700
Jefferson, you can get Garrett 
Wilson. 

1533
01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:58,300
And basically, every draft, if 
you want and knowing that, that 

1534
01:23:58,300 --> 01:24:01,700
the Tutorial ownership, take a 
drink of Jefferson and Garrett 

1535
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:04,300
Wilson is going to be pretty 
high in that format. 

1536
01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:07,400
Almost makes you want to avoid 
it for uniqueness purposes. 

1537
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,700
Whereas in this maybe it's a 
little less unique maybe people 

1538
01:24:10,700 --> 01:24:12,400
are staying out of their way a 
little bit more. 

1539
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,100
I don't know. 
Yeah. 

1540
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,400
Yeah that's the fascinating 
thing with these tournaments is 

1541
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,800
like, like me it's so hard. 
We don't have the data on what 

1542
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,300
the field is actually doing. 
Like we know that if the field 

1543
01:24:25,300 --> 01:24:28,300
was randomly picking players, 
nothing about bring back some 

1544
01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:32,200
bring backs would be beneficial 
but it can obviously get to a 

1545
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,100
point where that's over baked 
into the price and the 

1546
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:40,200
combinations where you actually,
you know, the uniqueness 

1547
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,200
perspective of not having the 
bring back is actually more. 

1548
01:24:43,300 --> 01:24:45,500
Beneficial. 
Like I I would lean that we're 

1549
01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:49,500
not there yet and that's still a
benefit of going for the bring 

1550
01:24:49,500 --> 01:24:51,300
back especially when you're not 
reaching for it. 

1551
01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:55,300
But yeah, they're like you said 
the 60 MERS like where it's so 

1552
01:24:55,300 --> 01:24:59,200
easy to stack them up. 
There could be some Game Theory 

1553
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,000
there where you might not want 
to force it. 

1554
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,900
So we still have looking at like
cozzens ATP. 

1555
01:25:05,900 --> 01:25:09,200
We still have a lot, we can 
still wait on that quite a bit. 

1556
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,000
Don't need to flush that. 
So we've had two quarterbacks 

1557
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,200
go. 
Go which means we have 10 more. 

1558
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:21,900
Still to go so you will be in 
the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 like 

1559
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,400
someone's going to be in the 
Kirk Cousins Kenny but like if 

1560
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,100
we want to wait on Kirk Cousins 
like we're going to be able to 

1561
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:28,900
get Kirk Cousins. 
Yeah. 

1562
01:25:31,700 --> 01:25:34,400
So we're looking here. 
I mean we were both talking 

1563
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,200
about Kenneth Walker earlier to 
me. 

1564
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:40,500
He looks like the best play 
here. 

1565
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:43,300
Is there is there anyone else 
you would you throw out? 

1566
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:49,700
I think Walker is the play. 
Yeah with etn and mix in both 

1567
01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:52,700
like potentially injured. 
I think that there's going to be

1568
01:25:52,708 --> 01:25:56,100
a pretty big tear break at 
running back after him. 

1569
01:25:56,900 --> 01:25:59,600
Yeah, so yeah, the role for 
Walkers really good. 

1570
01:25:59,700 --> 01:26:02,400
The Rams are abysmal. 
This could be a game where 

1571
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,700
Seattle can run the ball a 
million times. 

1572
01:26:04,700 --> 01:26:07,400
Like you always hope it's like 
not too big of a blow out that 

1573
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,100
they pull Walker. 
Like that's almost my, my bigger

1574
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:12,900
concern for a Chambers, the 
ramseys days. 

1575
01:26:13,700 --> 01:26:17,800
Yeah, I know there was I just 
know from DFS last week that 

1576
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:22,200
some people were talking about 
the Rams being a bit of a past 

1577
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:26,000
funnel, that their run defense 
is, is better. 

1578
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,300
But But I just don't know if 
that shit matters. 

1579
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:36,200
Yeah, yeah I don't know. 
Yeah I don't like well this is 

1580
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,800
interesting. 
Yeah go ahead. 

1581
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,100
Yanez says top three lineups in 
the 16 Battle Royale. 

1582
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:43,000
Last week at Stax ultimately was
Jacob's. 

1583
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,900
That was all that mattered but 
the skinny Stacks still seem to 

1584
01:26:46,900 --> 01:26:51,600
be the meta which definitely 
which definitely makes sense. 

1585
01:26:52,700 --> 01:26:56,400
When you only have six spots you
know the over stacking on draft.

1586
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,800
And when you have nine spots 
versus six, it definitely 

1587
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:04,600
changes the calculus. 
Yeah, another question for this 

1588
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,500
format. 
Losing is there and Donald out 

1589
01:27:08,500 --> 01:27:13,500
I'm so yeah, defensive yes, guy,
yeah, yeah, the wow. 

1590
01:27:13,700 --> 01:27:16,400
So yeah. 
Imagine that affects things in a

1591
01:27:16,407 --> 01:27:18,100
pretty meaningful way in this 
format. 

1592
01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:21,900
Like I thought I saw something 
where say like same you draft 

1593
01:27:21,900 --> 01:27:24,700
Nixon and then he's ruled out. 
Can you like sub someone in? 

1594
01:27:24,700 --> 01:27:26,400
Is that like a okay? 
Got it. 

1595
01:27:26,500 --> 01:27:31,200
You set, you set your personal 
rankings and so like, say we 

1596
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,300
drafted this and we drafted mix 
in and we wanted to put perine 

1597
01:27:34,300 --> 01:27:36,700
at the top of our rankings or 
whatever. 

1598
01:27:36,700 --> 01:27:38,900
Other back it just obviously has
to be a back. 

1599
01:27:38,900 --> 01:27:42,900
That wasn't drafted, but if we 
set our rankings, then you are 

1600
01:27:42,900 --> 01:27:45,100
able to sub them. 
And so there is definitely some 

1601
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,800
Merit to taking swings like Josh
Jacobs this week would be a good

1602
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,200
one right where it's like he 
plays he's a Smash If not what's

1603
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,900
the opportunity cost you could 
plug in zamir white you can plug

1604
01:27:54,900 --> 01:27:57,300
in another running back who's To
be available. 

1605
01:27:58,700 --> 01:28:01,400
We're now we're back to our 
correlation talk. 

1606
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,300
TJ Hawkins said with a Kirk 
double Garrett Wilson with a 

1607
01:28:04,300 --> 01:28:07,000
bring back anything else you 
like? 

1608
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,600
I think I would go will send 
here. 

1609
01:28:16,900 --> 01:28:21,300
I think like I'm hesitant to 
over stack with like Hawkinson 

1610
01:28:21,300 --> 01:28:24,400
and Jefferson. 
I think like We can get away 

1611
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,800
with just one of them but yeah. 
I think it's a bit of a toss-up.

1612
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,100
Would you have gone with that? 
Yeah, I think so. 

1613
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,500
You know, maybe you we could 
have told herself a story of if 

1614
01:28:36,500 --> 01:28:39,600
cmc's limited and out that 
debose actually a pretty sick 

1615
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:44,300
value in the third, but I don't 
mind it. 

1616
01:28:44,300 --> 01:28:47,100
The other thing, I guess this 
would have been the same for 

1617
01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:50,300
Debo but like if we do happen to
get sniped on Kirk for some 

1618
01:28:50,300 --> 01:28:54,100
reason, we now have a Mike White
out is As well as another 

1619
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:56,800
stacking partner, which I think 
is, is interesting. 

1620
01:28:57,300 --> 01:28:59,200
Yeah, yeah. 
I think that's imply. 

1621
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,900
I mean, he's shown a ceiling 
into out of his four games in 

1622
01:29:02,900 --> 01:29:07,900
the NFL, I think, you know, it's
not horrible if you end up with 

1623
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:13,000
with my quite. 
Yeah, but we also like, I think 

1624
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,900
here, We don't necessarily need 
to force one of those 

1625
01:29:16,900 --> 01:29:20,200
quarterbacks, right? 
Like, if not, we're back like I 

1626
01:29:20,208 --> 01:29:23,200
don't know who can make it back 
to us but like maybe Lamar 

1627
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,200
Watson, someone like that who 
has a bit more like rushing 

1628
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:32,200
upside makes the back to us. 
I would almost be inclined to to

1629
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,200
go there. 
I do see both Cleveland pass 

1630
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,600
catchers are gone so maybe the 
Watson stuff a little less 

1631
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:41,100
interesting. 
Yeah we did we definitely still 

1632
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:43,400
have options. 
I think that's kind of the 

1633
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,500
luxury of having two. 
The Fringe quarterbacks as our 

1634
01:29:46,500 --> 01:29:49,500
stack Partners who aren't going 
to, get, drafted, otherwise. 

1635
01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:52,900
But if we get an extreme value 
but then you do kind of want to 

1636
01:29:52,907 --> 01:29:57,600
think through would you kind of 
backdoor stack them, or would 

1637
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,200
you would you run a guy like 
Lamar naked or would you be, 

1638
01:30:01,300 --> 01:30:04,900
would you feel obligated to toss
in a Duvernay or Demarcus 

1639
01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:06,900
Robinson there? 
Yeah. 

1640
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:13,000
Yeah that makes sense. 
Yeah another thing like not 

1641
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,800
having a ton of these I'm still 
getting the feel for it. 

1642
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,400
Like how much do you think about
positional scarcity is like 

1643
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,100
particularly in regards to tight
end? 

1644
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:26,500
Like I wonder if like we may be 
fucked up a little bit and not 

1645
01:30:26,500 --> 01:30:29,400
going Elite tight end because it
seems like wide. 

1646
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:34,800
Receiver gets really flat for a 
while whereas like once Mark 

1647
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:39,400
Andrews is off the board. 
Like you know, even some of 

1648
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,200
these next guys like tight end 
kind of falls off a cliff pretty

1649
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,700
quickly so I don't know. 
Are you more inclined to like 

1650
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,100
lock up an elite tight end and 
these formats knowing that you 

1651
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:54,000
can find like a late-round wide 
receiver with, with upside and 

1652
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,100
maybe a way that you can't find 
like a super later. 

1653
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:58,300
I'd cut out with a late round 
tie down with upside. 

1654
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:04,400
Yeah, I agree with that. 
I just think that the lens or I 

1655
01:31:04,407 --> 01:31:06,200
don't know what the word I'm 
looking for. 

1656
01:31:06,300 --> 01:31:09,500
What we Define, as a lie. 
Tight end has just narrowed so 

1657
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:12,200
much that it's Travis Kelce and 
Mark Andrews. 

1658
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,100
And so I think taking Mark 
Andrews over. 

1659
01:31:15,100 --> 01:31:19,800
Justin Jefferson is probably a 
little too rich, but in general,

1660
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:21,500
I agree. 
Like, I think Mark Andrews at 

1661
01:31:21,500 --> 01:31:24,600
pick 15 here is a screaming 
steel. 

1662
01:31:24,700 --> 01:31:27,900
I think like efficiently, he 
probably should be like seven or

1663
01:31:27,900 --> 01:31:30,100
eight. 
Like, give me Mark, Andrews over

1664
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:34,000
Patrick Mahomes like for sure, 
just thinking about the way he 

1665
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:37,400
could separate and this is all 
just colored by recency bias. 

1666
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,700
And Him, you know, like you said
it, Mark Andrews. 

1667
01:31:39,700 --> 01:31:43,300
Catches that touchdown last week
he's literally going 1516. 

1668
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,600
Like we're talking about one 
drop in his ATP is much higher, 

1669
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:50,800
so I'm with you positionally. 
I think Mark Andrews is is way 

1670
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,800
to discounted this week. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1671
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:59,400
That definitely stood out to me.
Okay, cool. 

1672
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,300
Let's see. 
What are we Another guy that we 

1673
01:32:02,300 --> 01:32:04,400
talked about at the top of the 
queue here. 

1674
01:32:04,900 --> 01:32:10,700
Yeah. 
The another one did ya? 

1675
01:32:10,700 --> 01:32:14,600
Cristian Kirk already. 
When I did see Trevor Lawrence 

1676
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,000
here? 
Verse Detroit is obviously 

1677
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:20,100
interesting, but I don't think 
we necessarily have to force 

1678
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:31,600
that Yeah. 
Yeah, let's see here. 

1679
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,100
So this guy might go, okay, I 
was yeah I don't think this guy 

1680
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:39,400
will take a quarterback. 
So what do you think about 

1681
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,200
Fields here? 
Like I mean, just with the the 

1682
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:48,600
logic of we could probably sell 
them out for my quite if he 

1683
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:53,400
doesn't play. 
Yeah II. 

1684
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:58,100
I will also say, yeah, Watson 
who we talked about it. 

1685
01:32:58,200 --> 01:32:59,900
Is interesting. 
Yep. 

1686
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,300
I wonder just because we have so
many quarterback outs. 

1687
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,700
What do you think about taking 
Watson and see if Fields Falls 

1688
01:33:07,700 --> 01:33:09,000
to us? 
I like that. 

1689
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,900
And that gives us even the 
Rogers. 

1690
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:16,100
I mean, Dad. 
Yeah, we could stop Rogers out 

1691
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:18,700
for Jordan love if he doesn't 
play or whatever to write. 

1692
01:33:18,700 --> 01:33:22,800
So yep. 
Yeah, we basically have every 

1693
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,200
single quarter back out if we 
want. 

1694
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,900
So, I do think. 
It doesn't make sense to to grab

1695
01:33:27,900 --> 01:33:30,200
Fields there and that'll bills 
guy. 

1696
01:33:30,500 --> 01:33:32,000
Yeah. 
I think that was a good call 

1697
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:33,500
there. 
I think there's a pretty big 

1698
01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:35,900
tear break and skilled position 
guys. 

1699
01:33:35,900 --> 01:33:39,200
I mean Watson, I just feel 
really confident with Watson 

1700
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:43,100
running a Full Slate of routes 
that he's a pretty pretty high 

1701
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:44,400
up side, play the rest of the 
way. 

1702
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,600
So. 
Yeah. 

1703
01:33:46,700 --> 01:33:49,700
And we, I mean, Trevor Lawrence 
goes this guy is Borough will 

1704
01:33:49,700 --> 01:33:53,700
see what G does here. 
He doesn't have anything lined 

1705
01:33:53,700 --> 01:33:57,800
up, stack wise, but could set 
something up, but I think it was

1706
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,300
the, I think it was the right 
move. 

1707
01:33:59,900 --> 01:34:03,000
Yeah, And so he doesn't go 
Court. 

1708
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:09,900
Like there's only two teams dark
and whatever that one says at 

1709
01:34:09,900 --> 01:34:13,300
the end that will be looking for
quarterbacks. 

1710
01:34:13,900 --> 01:34:16,500
So we can even if there's like, 
a skill position guy. 

1711
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,100
We like, we can even I don't 
know because like, I don't have 

1712
01:34:19,100 --> 01:34:24,600
a huge between like whitefield's
Watson or sorry, whitefield's 

1713
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:29,600
Rogers cousins like I guess 
Fields is the, is the best from 

1714
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,100
a ceiling perspective, pretty 
clearly. 

1715
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:36,900
But his injury, I don't know. 
The only other thing to Think 

1716
01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:39,500
Through is who are tight ends 
going to be right because our 

1717
01:34:39,500 --> 01:34:43,300
last two pics of quarterback 
tight end fields and so with the

1718
01:34:43,300 --> 01:34:49,100
opens gone, so Fields goes to G 
because he loves just twisting 

1719
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:52,100
the knife you there was no way 
he was going to take feels if we

1720
01:34:52,100 --> 01:34:57,600
didn't talk about him. 
So I think we definitely wait on

1721
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,600
q b now. 
Just knowing we're going to be 

1722
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,400
able to get white or cousins and
then the question is like, who 

1723
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:08,100
do we want to do at tight end? 
Oof. 

1724
01:35:10,500 --> 01:35:14,900
I mean, Conklin gives you the 
double if you do want to like 

1725
01:35:14,900 --> 01:35:18,200
bet like if my quiet is balling 
and winning us this tournament 

1726
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:24,300
like Conklin's probably coming 
along for the ride or do you 

1727
01:35:24,300 --> 01:35:25,900
like it? 
Yeah. 

1728
01:35:25,900 --> 01:35:29,200
Yeah I think I was going to 
agree with you on on Coughlin 

1729
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,200
because just because like 
there's not a lot of other 

1730
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:37,900
Talent two guys here and Calkins
role has been, there was a 

1731
01:35:37,907 --> 01:35:40,700
period where Zuma was taking a 
bunch of Apps. 

1732
01:35:40,700 --> 01:35:44,100
That's kind of died out but I'm 
sorry. 

1733
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:45,300
What was the other option? 
Your throw up? 

1734
01:35:45,300 --> 01:35:48,100
So that's Conklin. 
I was, I mean, I didn't feel 

1735
01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:50,100
good about it. 
I was going to say like commit 

1736
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:54,900
gives us a mini with Watson, but
I agree with you. 

1737
01:35:54,900 --> 01:35:58,600
Like, this tier is so fucking 
flat that it's like what might 

1738
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,000
as well break it in favor of 
correlation here. 

1739
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,000
Yeah, I agree. 
And if, if someone Sick Enough 

1740
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,600
To draft my quite without 
Garrett Wilson or Tyler Conklin,

1741
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:14,900
like I'll salute Maybe yeah set 
up the the my quite Braixen bury

1742
01:36:14,900 --> 01:36:20,900
a stack to get unique. 
Thank you kids, loose 

1743
01:36:20,900 --> 01:36:23,600
consiglieri. 
I'm not sure. 

1744
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:27,000
Yeah any day now here it could 
be I might sneak in another 

1745
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,500
stream or two but we're getting 
down to the nitty-gritty. 

1746
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:33,500
Well it's going to be I could go
down in streaming history is 

1747
01:36:33,500 --> 01:36:37,600
doing the last draft with you 
before was the father that have 

1748
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,400
going my Twitter bio for sure. 
I think yeah yeah. 

1749
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,800
SFP 12 Pete's final childless 
stream. 

1750
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,100
Let's see, do we have any other 
interesting teams here? 

1751
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,700
Mookie, doing the back door with
Herbert so he grabs her birth 

1752
01:36:58,700 --> 01:37:01,800
and goes Everett in. 
Mike Williams is certainly 

1753
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:05,400
interesting. 
Indy here out of the ten slot 

1754
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:09,500
does get the Lamar Andrews. 
We have a hurt AJ Brown from 

1755
01:37:09,500 --> 01:37:10,700
Nez. 
Wow. 

1756
01:37:10,700 --> 01:37:14,800
Jamaal Williams in the third Nez
says, fuck your regression. 

1757
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,000
I'm Takin Jamaal Williams in the
third. 

1758
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,900
That is bold. 
But I mean a little So many with

1759
01:37:20,900 --> 01:37:26,200
Evan engram. 
Fading Jamaal Williams is just. 

1760
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,800
It's not working might as well 
drive. 

1761
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:32,400
Yeah. 
Lean into the skid. 

1762
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,600
Yeah so everyone I mean just 
looking at these teams like 

1763
01:37:38,700 --> 01:37:43,700
everyone everyone's drafting 
like maybe there's I don't know 

1764
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,400
some teams that aren't stacking 
up or maybe building teams like 

1765
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,900
differently from how I would I 
guess the first like team to and

1766
01:37:50,900 --> 01:37:54,200
team 3 I don't quite see the 
angles. 

1767
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:57,100
They're going for from a 
stacking perspective but like 

1768
01:37:57,100 --> 01:38:02,500
almost everyone else is just 
like seemingly stacking up games

1769
01:38:02,500 --> 01:38:05,100
or at least individual teams, 
which makes sense. 

1770
01:38:05,700 --> 01:38:09,200
Yeah, I'm with you. 
I don't, I Don't really 

1771
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:13,000
understand. 
Like I don't necessarily mind 

1772
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:17,900
uncorrelated teams, but if I'm 
not worrying about correlation, 

1773
01:38:17,900 --> 01:38:20,100
I'm quote-unquote, you know, 
scooping up value. 

1774
01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:22,900
I'm definitely not taking a 
quarterback in the second round.

1775
01:38:23,500 --> 01:38:28,900
Yeah, that's my thought as well.
Or even like, With Trevor Lon. 

1776
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:31,500
Like, if I had that team, I'm 
probably going for the stealing 

1777
01:38:31,500 --> 01:38:33,400
quarterback and Fields over 
Lawrence. 

1778
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:37,600
So, okay, so we're going to be 
our choice of white versus 

1779
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:43,400
cousins, I guess or, yeah. 
I think just because we 

1780
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,700
double-stacked, that's where I 
would lie and I would go with 

1781
01:38:46,700 --> 01:38:48,400
the, why? 
Just because like you said, 

1782
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:52,800
getting less things right, would
make me to lean white over 

1783
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,000
causes and I'm not even like I 
don't think cousins has a higher

1784
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,700
ceiling, really? 
You know, I don't know. 

1785
01:38:59,700 --> 01:39:03,100
I think yeah I think it's it was
a coin flip. 

1786
01:39:03,100 --> 01:39:08,900
If it was just like Wilson and 
Jefferson who you wanted, maybe 

1787
01:39:08,900 --> 01:39:12,900
I would slightly lean Jeff urged
cousins, just because 

1788
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:17,100
Minnesota's at home, but once we
took Conklin, I think I 

1789
01:39:17,108 --> 01:39:21,000
definitely prefer it. 
There's just so few scenarios 

1790
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:23,700
where Conklin and Wilson are 
kidding there and Garrett 

1791
01:39:23,700 --> 01:39:25,700
Wilson's, not optimal for that 
roster. 

1792
01:39:26,300 --> 01:39:29,500
Yeah, yeah I agree with that and
the end Michael, it's gonna get 

1793
01:39:29,500 --> 01:39:34,700
there through through passing. 
So I think like I think that's a

1794
01:39:34,700 --> 01:39:37,900
situation where double-stack 
makes more sense verse. 

1795
01:39:37,900 --> 01:39:40,800
Like if you're going to go with 
the Lamar hurts, like they're 

1796
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:43,800
probably getting there with 100 
yards rushing or something and 

1797
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,100
you probably just want to sing 
single stack them? 

1798
01:39:46,700 --> 01:39:54,400
Yeah, cool. 
Nice want to do one quick Battle

1799
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,800
Royale six-person one here. 
Yeah, let's do it. 

1800
01:39:56,900 --> 01:40:00,500
Let's do it. 
Let's keep the badge Brigade out

1801
01:40:00,500 --> 01:40:03,300
of this one. 
Yeah, that was a heavy didn't 

1802
01:40:03,300 --> 01:40:06,700
even comment on that but that 
was a heavy bad for grade draft,

1803
01:40:06,700 --> 01:40:09,300
I guess. 
All these like weekly we could 

1804
01:40:09,300 --> 01:40:11,200
really really for the for the 
sick. 

1805
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,500
As I was doing some of these 
battle royales this afternoon 

1806
01:40:14,500 --> 01:40:17,500
and it was only badge Brigade in
those. 

1807
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:23,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, help with the playoff 

1808
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,600
contest. 
Will I feel like that maybe 

1809
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:30,000
because that attracts like less 
of the like pure DFS crowd which

1810
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,500
I think is drawn to the ease and
maybe more of just like the 

1811
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,300
Casual players for the playoff 
contest. 

1812
01:40:36,300 --> 01:40:39,400
I don't know. 
I'm hoping it draws out a little

1813
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:44,100
more casuals. 
Yeah, I think to people because 

1814
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:47,800
the twelve persons take a just a
little bit longer to fill that 

1815
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,600
people get antsy and they're 
like I can just hop in a battle 

1816
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,400
royale and I know it's going to 
fill in 30. 

1817
01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:53,500
Seconds. 
Yeah. 

1818
01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:00,600
Which that's we do have a tag in
the deposit Kingdom Discord. 

1819
01:41:00,900 --> 01:41:03,900
You can go into the badge, Bros 
Channel, and tag people. 

1820
01:41:03,900 --> 01:41:07,700
When you're trying to fill you 
first, you get the role in the 

1821
01:41:07,700 --> 01:41:11,500
lobby, there's a channel that's 
roles and you can opt in to the 

1822
01:41:11,500 --> 01:41:15,400
badge, Bros roll, and then 
people can tag you and they're 

1823
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,600
trying to fill these drafts, so 
that's cool. 

1824
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,600
Yeah, this comment here I 
thought was interesting. 

1825
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:24,700
Is it wider? 
Two Jet's just not let other 

1826
01:41:24,700 --> 01:41:27,600
quarterbacks exceed feel like 
Jets kind of played the game 

1827
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:31,900
sharper and play calling i-i'm 
not like a film expert. 

1828
01:41:31,900 --> 01:41:36,200
But one thing I did see related 
to that is that my quite just 

1829
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:40,400
and Joe Flacco, both got the 
ball out just considerably 

1830
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:44,300
faster than Zach Wilson did and 
also take sex at a much lower 

1831
01:41:44,300 --> 01:41:48,000
rate so I think that's like the 
biggest thing. 

1832
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,500
I think Zak Willis has a ton of 
arm talent in a way that Flacco 

1833
01:41:51,500 --> 01:41:53,800
and white. 
We don't, but they just play the

1834
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:57,500
game a lot smarter and just 
like, make make the quick reads 

1835
01:41:57,500 --> 01:42:01,200
in a way that Wilson can't. 
So, yeah, I don't know. 

1836
01:42:01,300 --> 01:42:03,800
That's my don't think whites is 
like unbelievable talent, but I 

1837
01:42:03,808 --> 01:42:07,400
think he's just like, confident 
in a way that sack Wilson is 

1838
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,600
not. 
And if the thesis is Garrett, 

1839
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,600
Wilson is just really fucking 
good and it's been held down by 

1840
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,900
atrocious quarterback, play, 
like that. 

1841
01:42:16,900 --> 01:42:20,600
Also boosts my how you view my 
quite as well, because it's 

1842
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:24,300
saying he's has you know what? 
Legit be like a top 12 Talent. 

1843
01:42:25,900 --> 01:42:29,700
So what do we want to? 
Where the fuck is Mark Andrews? 

1844
01:42:29,700 --> 01:42:30,900
Holy cow. 
Mark Andrews. 

1845
01:42:30,900 --> 01:42:33,300
ATP is low. 
We could probably wait on him. 

1846
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,700
Do you want to get a he'll share
hear anything else? 

1847
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,200
Yeah, that's how I react is the 
one that jumps out to me. 

1848
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,600
Yeah that game could be that 
game could be fun. 

1849
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,600
I think people are going to shy 
away from it a little bit. 

1850
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,400
They're going to worry about the
Dolphins on the road at San 

1851
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,000
Francisco, but that game could 
pop off. 

1852
01:42:51,300 --> 01:42:54,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, I agree and we didn't 

1853
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:58,400
really touch on in in the charts
this week, but Ty, reeks roll. 

1854
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:02,000
It's just like absolutely and 
saying like he's he's even like 

1855
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:07,400
kind of in a tier above guys. 
Like you know, from a Target 

1856
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:11,300
earning enroll perspective, guys
like digs and and Jefferson like

1857
01:43:11,300 --> 01:43:13,200
it's just been absolutely 
smashing this year. 

1858
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:19,200
So I think I would draft him as 
the first wide receiver overall.

1859
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,200
We were doing like a rest of 
season fantasy rankings. 

1860
01:43:23,300 --> 01:43:25,500
I'm with you. 
I think it's really close 

1861
01:43:25,500 --> 01:43:28,900
between him and Jefferson but 
just the way that offense is 

1862
01:43:28,900 --> 01:43:30,800
constructed like gimme Tyree 
kill. 

1863
01:43:30,900 --> 01:43:33,200
Um do you want to do Andrews 
here? 

1864
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:36,300
I do think he's like the best 
pick that's available but I'm 

1865
01:43:36,300 --> 01:43:39,700
open to other avenues to. 
Yeah, I've go Andrews. 

1866
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:45,100
I think, I think you can go a 
lot of different ways but I 

1867
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:49,000
think just that I think like 
it's a tear of to and maybe 

1868
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,700
you'd even say Kelsey is in his 
own tier and then Andrews in 

1869
01:43:51,700 --> 01:43:55,000
this tier after that, it's like 
yeah like a bunch of guys after 

1870
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:59,300
that but like there's a big drop
off especially in these you know

1871
01:43:59,300 --> 01:44:02,600
we're going to have six like 
good football players and these 

1872
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:04,400
drafts. 
But if you don't take Andrews or

1873
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,800
Kelsey, you're going to have 
like a question mark at tight 

1874
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:10,200
end. 
So yeah. 

1875
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:16,300
Yeah, I still think that the 
tight ends in this format and 

1876
01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:19,500
obviously they can, they can 
burn you too, but there's just 

1877
01:44:19,500 --> 01:44:22,800
no one else that can match 
Travis Kelce ceiling other than 

1878
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,400
Andrews. 
Yeah. 

1879
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,200
I mean there. 
Yeah. 

1880
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:33,100
If you they basically want 
receivers both Kelsey and 

1881
01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:36,600
Andrews and their Elite wide 
receivers in terms of their 

1882
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:41,200
their target earning their. 
Yeah, they're true. 

1883
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,800
Outliers the position. 
It's been funny to watch Nick 

1884
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:48,200
Chubb, scream up ATP. 
Like with these opened he was a 

1885
01:44:48,208 --> 01:44:53,600
little bit below and then the 
DVP Bros come out and Nick Chubb

1886
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:57,600
screams up. 
Yep. 

1887
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:01,300
Well verse here, I think that 
matchup versus Houston people, a

1888
01:45:01,300 --> 01:45:04,400
lot of people are just looking 
at that and just I don't know if

1889
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:08,700
the offense if Watson can can 
get the offense going back and 

1890
01:45:08,700 --> 01:45:11,700
be like a Nick Chubb for 
Touchdown game against that 

1891
01:45:11,700 --> 01:45:15,500
awful, Houston to him. 
Yeah, but yeah, his role is just

1892
01:45:15,500 --> 01:45:23,200
not that not that big obviously.
We should have some nice options

1893
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:27,100
here at wide receiver. 
AJ Brown versus Tennessee, seems

1894
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:29,800
nice. 
I'm on robbers, Jacksonville 

1895
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:34,700
waddle, San Francisco or we 
could double up on running back.

1896
01:45:34,700 --> 01:45:36,400
Oh, here go. 
The wide receivers flying off 

1897
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:37,700
the board. 
What do you like? 

1898
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:46,500
I was gonna throw out. 
McCaffrey because of that the 

1899
01:45:46,500 --> 01:45:48,600
mini correlation there, I'm 
going to have to force it. 

1900
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:52,200
But yeah, I think I like 
McCaffrey and Berkeley. 

1901
01:45:55,900 --> 01:45:57,200
Yeah, I don't know about the 
dub. 

1902
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:02,700
I feel like like, obviously 
waddle and Tyree can both have 

1903
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:07,300
huge games, we've seen that this
year, but I think I would 

1904
01:46:07,300 --> 01:46:10,600
slightly shy away from the 
double stack. 

1905
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,900
Well, it's So one that you you 
don't have to force. 

1906
01:46:14,900 --> 01:46:19,700
Like we can take McCaffrey here 
and then we can see if Waddles 

1907
01:46:19,700 --> 01:46:21,700
there. 
And then, if you end up with 

1908
01:46:21,700 --> 01:46:25,500
both Hill and waddle like no 
one's taking to, I would, I 

1909
01:46:25,500 --> 01:46:26,400
would doubt. 
Yeah. 

1910
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,900
I think if. 
Yeah, there's a kind of a drop 

1911
01:46:29,900 --> 01:46:32,900
off if we don't get one of the 
calf or your broccoli, there at 

1912
01:46:32,900 --> 01:46:36,100
running back. 
So, I like that. 

1913
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:40,900
Yeah. 
Yeah, they waddle waddle does 

1914
01:46:40,900 --> 01:46:42,600
go. 
Who do you like here? 

1915
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,100
We're not sweetest girls are, or
I was just gonna say, might as 

1916
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:48,900
well you could Stack Up Lamar 
to. 

1917
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,700
I think we should just, I think 
we should do that. 

1918
01:46:52,300 --> 01:46:56,400
Like, if, if Baltimore goes off,
it's so going to be so heavily 

1919
01:46:56,400 --> 01:47:02,000
concentrated with with those two
guys, I think so. 

1920
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,600
Yeah, that makes sense. 
And I don't think I don't want 

1921
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:06,400
to touch any Denver, bring back 
soon. 

1922
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:10,700
Let's count this. 
This this is the poster. 

1923
01:47:10,900 --> 01:47:13,500
The poster boy for not forcing a
bring back. 

1924
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:17,100
The fucking Denver Broncos. 
Averaging 14 points 6 points 

1925
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:22,500
again God. 
Yeah it's just mad. 

1926
01:47:22,500 --> 01:47:27,800
I still can't believe how bad 
how bad Ross is and like How 

1927
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:32,600
good also how good the Seahawks 
are without Ross like is just 

1928
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,600
completely breaking breaking my 
brain. 

1929
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:39,100
Like everyone was so sure that 
Pete Carroll was this dumbass 

1930
01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:40,600
coach. 
He was limiting Ross, and they 

1931
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,600
were so dumb for not taking a 
quarterback in the draft. 

1932
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,500
I was one of these people. 
I'm not saying other people are 

1933
01:47:45,500 --> 01:47:49,600
not like I totally thought that 
too and then just Gino smashes. 

1934
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,700
Russ is terrible. 
Like Ken Walker running back. 

1935
01:47:52,700 --> 01:47:55,400
They didn't really need is like 
the number-one Dynasty running 

1936
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:58,500
back now like they just This. 
Y'all just got a lot of things, 

1937
01:47:58,500 --> 01:47:59,800
right? 
It's pretty funny. 

1938
01:48:00,500 --> 01:48:07,100
Yeah, it's absolutely insane. 
It does seem like Nathaniel 

1939
01:48:07,100 --> 01:48:09,000
hackett's going to make it 
through this season though, 

1940
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:10,800
which is, which is kind of crazy
to me. 

1941
01:48:12,300 --> 01:48:15,300
Like if he wasn't fired now, 
like what's getting him fired? 

1942
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:19,200
They should have fired him once,
I couldn't get Rogers, like that

1943
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:23,200
was just brought in right? 
And then, yeah, you couldn't do 

1944
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,900
that. 
And oh, man, I don't know. 

1945
01:48:29,500 --> 01:48:30,300
Yeah. 
What's up Wonder? 

1946
01:48:30,300 --> 01:48:32,600
Like what is it with Ross? 
Like I haven't heard any good 

1947
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:36,200
like did he just have like crazy
athleticism early in his career?

1948
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,400
And is that wore off? 
He hasn't been able to like, do 

1949
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:43,400
the gun-slinging like run around
and make make plays thing. 

1950
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,500
Or like, I'm just trying to 
figure out, like, what caused 

1951
01:48:45,500 --> 01:48:48,600
this massive drop-off. 
It's, it's kind of tough to 

1952
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:53,400
tough to even think about. 
Yeah. 

1953
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:59,100
So, thinking about our Endgame 
here. 

1954
01:48:59,100 --> 01:49:03,200
A little bit basically like, 
correlation wise. 

1955
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:06,700
I don't think there's anything 
with what we've already done. 

1956
01:49:06,700 --> 01:49:11,300
That we need to think about 
necessarily know. 

1957
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,100
I would just think we should 
just take. 

1958
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:16,800
Like I think here we should just
take whatever we think is like 

1959
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,200
the highest. 
Yeah healing player and then 

1960
01:49:20,300 --> 01:49:24,100
with her last pic like get a 
little off the wall like scroll 

1961
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:27,100
down a bit but I think here I'm 
sure I don't know. 

1962
01:49:32,900 --> 01:49:38,300
I mean we have mix and I think 
is decent if he plays we can 

1963
01:49:38,300 --> 01:49:41,500
always submit Mout I think etn. 
Same logic. 

1964
01:49:42,500 --> 01:49:45,600
I like etn for this one. 
Yeah. 

1965
01:49:45,900 --> 01:49:49,500
Detroit's been so bad and etn 
sounds like he's completely 

1966
01:49:49,500 --> 01:49:52,100
fine. 
Yeah, I like, I like that. 

1967
01:49:52,100 --> 01:49:58,000
That's a really high total game.
Yeah, this is where it can get. 

1968
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,200
Like, if you're wanting to get, 
Get weird. 

1969
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,700
I mean Pickens against Atlanta 
is interesting if you want to 

1970
01:50:04,700 --> 01:50:10,400
play Mike Williams back first. 
The Raiders has some interesting

1971
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,000
stuff. 
You could go all the way down to

1972
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:18,200
like a trail and Burks. 
Kind of crazy to me that like 

1973
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:22,400
DK. 
Metcalf isn't getting drafted in

1974
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:26,000
some of these. 
Yeah throw your Dart in 

1975
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:27,000
anyone's. 
Good with me. 

1976
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:31,700
Do you think that calf isn't 
like off-the-wall enough? 

1977
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:36,400
The only, the only other thing I
would say I feel like you don't 

1978
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:40,800
have to get quite as off the 
wall on a Tuesday because this 

1979
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:45,200
atp's going to get settled way, 
way more later in the week. 

1980
01:50:45,500 --> 01:50:47,500
I like my, I like that. 
My Cafe. 

1981
01:50:47,500 --> 01:50:50,600
Yeah. 
Like he I think he's 

1982
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,400
undervalued, he's been a little 
unlucky. 

1983
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:53,900
From a touchdown perspective 
this year. 

1984
01:50:53,900 --> 01:50:58,000
Like hasn't had any like massive
blowout game so I think that's 

1985
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:03,200
maybe what suppressing as ATP 
but yeah it, yeah. 

1986
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:06,300
And my thought too is just like 
if we can you know someone like 

1987
01:51:06,300 --> 01:51:09,800
etn. 
I think once he's practicing, 

1988
01:51:09,900 --> 01:51:11,400
you know and and completely 
good. 

1989
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,100
Like I think his ADP moves up a 
smidge. 

1990
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:16,600
And so then I start to say, okay
if you're drafting early in the 

1991
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,100
week and you're getting some 
combos that the rest of the 

1992
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:20,900
Field isn't getting, I'm less 
worried. 

1993
01:51:20,900 --> 01:51:23,400
Whereas like when I'm drafting 
Sunday morning I'm like we 

1994
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:26,300
better get fucking weird because
all of this shit has been 

1995
01:51:26,300 --> 01:51:28,700
established and there's so many 
of these combos that have 

1996
01:51:28,700 --> 01:51:30,400
already been drafted. 
Yeah. 

1997
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:32,700
Yeah. 
That that makes sense. 

1998
01:51:35,300 --> 01:51:37,700
Yeah, this is a fun team here. 
So this one we just drafted 

1999
01:51:37,700 --> 01:51:40,100
Lamar to Andrews. 
Oh where did it go? 

2000
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,300
Llamar de Andrews. 
We have the CMC Tyree kill mini 

2001
01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:49,200
and then someone off CTN and 
Metcalf definitely just A 

2002
01:51:49,208 --> 01:51:51,300
massive ceiling. 
So all of these guys. 

2003
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,200
Yeah this team. 
This team is really fun. 

2004
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:59,500
Yeah I'd like the I like the 
Lamar to Andrews. 

2005
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:02,200
Stack lot to. 
I think that's just been 

2006
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,100
undervalued by recency bias, a 
little bit. 

2007
01:52:04,100 --> 01:52:07,300
So that's a fun one to have for 
cool. 

2008
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:14,800
Land the plane Sam. 
So Pete, thanks, thanks for 

2009
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:19,200
joining. 
We will be back next week. 

2010
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:23,300
I think, Connors hopefully 
healthy by then for another 

2011
01:52:23,300 --> 01:52:26,500
recast, a chasing other than 
that, I'll be posting the 

2012
01:52:26,508 --> 01:52:28,800
charts. 
We talk through this week on 

2013
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:30,400
Twitter. 
If you want to look at those in 

2014
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,100
more detail, I think they're 
helpful for your sit starts for 

2015
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:37,600
your waivers for your DFS, so 
I'll get those out. 

2016
01:52:37,700 --> 01:52:41,900
On Twitter at Sherman underscore
ffb. 

2017
01:52:43,100 --> 01:52:50,000
But yeah, other than that good 
luck to everybody in week 13. 

2018
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:54,600
Well yep. 
And we'll also will be will be 

2019
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:58,000
back tomorrow night. 
I believe Leone is going to join

2020
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:02,000
us on ship chasing. 
We are chasing the playoffs in 

2021
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:04,500
our 10 knfc leaks. 
We're going to break down some 

2022
01:53:04,500 --> 01:53:06,200
of the decisions. 
There we lost Kyle pins. 

2023
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:10,000
So we have trained There's gonna
be lots of, you know, Jelani 

2024
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:14,300
Woods Hunter, Henry type talk 
tomorrow show as we piece 

2025
01:53:14,300 --> 01:53:16,200
together our waiver wire 
situation. 

2026
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:19,500
Maybe is there going to be a 
rehash of the the backup kicker 

2027
01:53:19,500 --> 01:53:24,200
discussions between probably 
exactly. 

2028
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,900
Thank you guys for hanging out 
in the chat and thank you again 

2029
01:53:27,900 --> 01:53:32,100
to Sam and Draco for doing such 
great work on stat chasing this 

2030
01:53:32,100 --> 01:53:33,800
year. 
Like Sam said, check out those 

2031
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:37,600
charts will retweet Sam's charts
on the ship. 

2032
01:53:37,700 --> 01:53:41,000
Singing handle, definitely hop 
in the Discord and chill with us

2033
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:44,200
if you guys have not yet. 
So for Sam I'm heat will see you

2034
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:45,600
guys tomorrow night. 
Peace.