All right, welcome to ship JC today we have a very special
show. It is time for the All Sauce
draft. JB Phil in the discord had been
suggesting this and it's a great idea.
This is what we're going to do. We're going to hop into a twelve
person draft. This is going to be a private
draft. I'm going to share the link in
the discord with the VIPs and we're going to draft.
We're going to have a good time and then we are going to roast
the shit out of your teams. All the mistakes you make, the
blunders, the Dusty players, all of that good stuff and help us
do it. We are going to have one of the
premier best ball streamers in the space, David Kitchen joining
us to help roast your teams. I hope you guys are ready for
the sauce. Sure you think you want chip
chasing to review your team. How much sauce would you like on
your team? Oh I love this.
You asked for the sauce, he wants it extra saucy.
You think you want it spicy. He he wants 13.
Oh boy, but. Then you realize you can't
handle the heat. It's guy.
Do we have to review his team? Hey, why did you take Moelly
pots? What are you doing?
So fucking cute with a zero RB. Evan, you will speak when you
are spoken to. Fuck off, Chris.
Awful team Ship chasing team reviews are getting spicy this
summer. Come get the sauce.
Two. He wanted her two.
All right, we are back here for ship chasing off on the 4th of
July. Missed you guys, Pat, Karain,
Ben, Gretch, Gretch, you've been doing some traveling yourself,
right? Yeah, I've been at the lake
house the last few days. We were supposed to be there
through today, but it was like 100 a hundred and five degrees.
The cabin was super hot. The kids were having a hard time
sleeping at night. We ended up cutting the trip a
couple days short. The wife he was had had enough
of the extreme heat, but it was a lot of fun.
We we, we had our fill of, you know, floating on the lake and
me and my brother-in-law got some golfing.
It was a good time. Man a couple of my other buddies
sent me some photos recently of they were floating the river.
My buddy lives in Bend OR and one of my biggest fails as an
adult. I have not floated a river since
I was a teenager. Like as an adult I've not done a
river flow and I'm craving it so much.
I hadn't even thought about, I mean, I used to do like white
water rafting a little bit as like a teenager, but it's that's
been a long time and I don't know.
Yeah, it's been a long time since I did a river float.
Yeah, sounds like a ton of fun. Gretch, were you in a, were you
in AUD friendly state where your road trip was?
No. No, just just Eastern
Washington. I am, I believe going to make
the drive tomorrow morning. It depends on.
Did you lobby for a little further E Yeah, my last.
Two my last two trips cause of like where family is and stuff
has have not been to to UD friendly states.
So tomorrow the bridge and the Delhi across the the border.
Are do they think they're regular?
They're going to soon enough, man.
You don't know me yet. They will.
Yeah, I, yeah, I know what because we underdog dropped a
bunch of contests yesterday, one of them already filled.
They had a a single entry, a winner take all and now we had
what there was the pug. I can't keep track.
Of the hound, they had the hound dog which filled immediately and
then they have the pug, which is still going because I think
that's fast only, but it's not, it's not a little full.
I just need to turn up my BBM entries like I, I, I'm.
Gonna I know I need to get more into.
What do you what do you have? Eliminators and stuff.
I don't, I don't think I've done I, I honestly don't know, but I
think I'm in like the 30 to 40 range because I've done like
about that many eliminators. I did some marathons, I did some
puppy, the Superflex puppies, I did a bunch of those, 'cause I
was all excited about doing Superflex.
I misplayed that. I didn't.
I did too many Superflex drafts. I was not happy about finishing
those slows. You, you've done a good job
'cause every year, like I say, I wanna, you know, dive into more
of the formats and like, it takes a while, both like the
time and to get your mind oriented to the specific
structure, but like you have dove into like each of these
different formats this year, at least a few of them.
Yeah, I've tried to, it's been, it has been difficult to like to
do the draft the the streams and like try to figure out the
different structures and, and who I like in what formats and
stuff to like try to structure like, well, now there's a
marathon away. What what, what league is this?
I'd like click back out a few times and like, remember what I
clicked into, what I'm even drafting, you know?
What are the rules of this? Yeah, yeah.
I even get scared like I I'm in some Sprint slows.
And it's again, as we've talked about on the show, it's not a
different strategy hardly at all.
And but still, I'm like, oh, I'm in a Sprint.
Like this isn't just like the hound dog.
You can't just go clicking away. You gotta, you know, like even
just like that slight change of like, what do I need to do
differently? All right, we're gonna have
David Kitchen joining us here in a second.
He had a little thing bleeding over into our time slot.
But yeah, have you guys, you know, on the swole cast, we tend
to roast each other's line UPS at the end.
But this was something we had done on the channel in previous
years. I don't know how it came out.
It basically came about from people being like, tell me how
good my team is after a draft. And that isn't fun to tell
someone how well they drafted. And it's a lot more fun to tell
them how awful they drafted. So I think those are the origins
of this. Yeah, I don't remember when with
the term saucing sort of we settled on that is is like.
I think it was that episode with Leonie.
I was out that week. I every time I said I missed one
freaking week. The history of the show.
A bit that's locked in forever. Forever, you guys.
You guys did it with Leonie that week and it was.
I think that is it was. An immediate hit.
Yeah, you were almost gonna miss this show.
And then you heard that it was the Sasha.
You drone a milk. I I miss every Sasha.
Yeah. Exactly.
Yeah. So this is going to be, it's a
$10 league. I didn't do the $3 league like I
do for the randomizer private drafts.
I wanted people to have a little skin in the game here.
You know, I don't want just like full blown bits.
I need you taking this a little seriously here.
Because we don't want to sauce like intentionally bad teams.
We want to sauce teams where you tried your hardest, and now
we're going to tell you why it's bad.
What, what have you guys seen? Like obviously whenever you're
in draft rooms, I still do feel like there's one to two teams
where I'm like, I just have no clue what you are doing in this.
But from even, you know, above average or average drafters,
what do you guys think is the stuff you see the most that
you're like, that's kind of weird or I wouldn't have done
that? I do see people today I was in a
BBM and someone went with running back.
Running back like Alan Kelsey or something like that, or Alan
Laporta. It's like, OK, like we'll see.
But I mean I it is. Liam Neeson on the phone.
Good luck. But I mean, it's on the, on the
one hand, I don't think that's going to work at all.
But on the other hand, like it's like every pick on its own is a
good pick. So it's like tempting to be like
I'm just going to make 4 good picks and then I'll be fine.
Yeah, what about you guys pay? Attention a lot to the other
teams because I'm doing all slows, you know, like I know
when, when we're doing fast, it's easier to check on like
what other teams are doing. You're kind of trying to read
the room a little bit, but I'm doing all the slows.
I I feel like I spend less time even like some of the drafts
I'll get like in the eighth round, like, oh, Eric Beimford
is in this draft with me. Like he was in a bunch of my
last batch of eliminators. And I didn't really realize that
until I was like well into the draft and I was like, I could
probably be like somewhat leveraging this.
Like I could be aware of what buying for might be doing and
paying attention it within the draft.
But I'm just like making my picks.
And I have so many slows to get through that I'm not really
paying attention to the other drafter.
So I can't really like be honest and say that I have really any
great answers to that question. It's a good point, though.
Broadly speaking, I think that the field is obviously gotten a
lot stronger. So like when you're doing the
saucing two years ago, people were making more mistakes than
they're probably making that it might be more difficult to find
with the sauce. Well, check out this this team,
right? It's got an elite tight end,
which you like. It's got Josh Allen.
He he stacked Josh Allen with Keon Coleman, Curtis Samuel.
So like this this draft is did he bring?
No, he didn't do any bring backs or anything.
But it's like, you know, someone who understands some of the
concepts, but the start is Gibbs, Jonathan Taylor, Laporta
Allen Pitts, Gian Coleman and Curtis Sandler are his first two
wide receivers and he then he took Kirk Cousins and Bryce
Young. So you're like, there's mistakes
to be made even if there's not stacking, even if you understand
stacking. I think, I think the structure
get can get people in trouble this year more than ever.
I do think it is like they're outside of those like one to two
teams that stick out like a sore thumb 'cause they're doing
something weird structurally. My guess is more of the mistakes
now are happening across like a portfolio standpoint where
people are doing the exact same thing in every draft or doing
the same structures over and over or like not balancing out
their bets in in ways that their overall portfolio can benefit.
You know, one thing I've been doing is I've been, I have been
going for the Zay flowers earlier in the third move,
knowing Lamar's there a lot. And yeah, I I want Andrews to
come back in the 5th, but I'm in a weird way, I'm like
prioritizing this a little bit more than I was before in an
environment where Andrews is less likely to come back in the
5th. But that's making like so this
the start that I did in this was Jefferson a Chan Flowers
Jackson, Terry Mclaurin and then Xavier Worthy came back.
So I only did two detours. And like the fact that Andrew's
probably wasn't going to come back and was just going to be
like a altar, like an ultra luxury in the fifth made me want
to mix in the flowers Lamar a little bit more.
So I don't know. I'm trying to make some flowers
Lamar. To your point about doing the
same structure every time, because I have so much Lamar
Andrews, I feel like Flowers Lamar gets overlooked a little
bit. Yeah.
And that actually reminds me of a tweet I saw Gretch, you were
talking about Pacheco on on Twitter today.
And this idea of like, he can be a good hit, but it kind of
messes up some of the things you want to do from a structural
standpoint at that 4-5 turn. Which also dovetails into the
guys when we did the show, who are our scariest fades.
And most of the fades came from spots where we wanted to
accomplish something else structurally.
Right. And we talked about that on that
show. Was catching on the ass on the
draft for this. I told yo, here he is.
He's he's hopping in. Yeah, he said.
He's going to be right here. Yeah, yeah, somebody actually
asked where if if I had talked through that concept and I was
like, yeah, I know I have, but I don't know where but that that
would have been the the show on ship chasing where we talked
through that idea. I do think like there are
definitely ways, like Leonie responded to it and said that
it's a, you know, Pacheco around 4-5 sound structurally.
And I think, you know, my, my comment back was that I think
generically speaking, like that's that's probably true, But
like in the, in the specific or I was maybe being too specific
or my concern is maybe too specific.
But if the wide receivers hit in the ways that I think they could
in the early rounds, if the tight, if the elite tight end is
a key this year, like that running back might be the least
important pick to get in that range.
We've talked about this on that show.
We talked about how hard it is to get collective exposure to
early running backs. The other part of it, and I'm
working on a piece right now that I'll probably have out
either later today or tomorrow. That's kind of like, like one of
the biggest, I, I title it. One of the biggest reasons Zero
RB will smash in 2024 is hiding in plain sight.
And it's this idea. Oh, we're on the clock.
Yeah, you guys want to do a running back or or puka?
Or Garrett. I'm fine.
Let's take Garrett. I do Garrett, all right.
Yeah, got to get bend back in the in the cool air of a of a
wide receiver that he loves. It feels great.
I love it. This idea of the thing that's
hiding in plain sight is, I mean, I'm just going to, you
know, give the whole conceit away before I've even read the
article, but it's that there's so.
I do that running backs. Going we have so many ambiguous
backfields, we don't have as many established starters.
That means there are more backfields where displacing
whoever we think is a starter is easier.
They're like they're more like dead zone backs or something.
It's there's only 32 teams, but you hit on a most or a Kyron
Williams like last year when those teams are pretty
ambiguous. And right now, we've talked
about this the last like half decade of running back drafts,
we haven't had a ton of hits. We don't have a bunch of
generational young backs right now.
Bijan and Breece are like the two closest things we have, but
a lot of other guys have gotten hurt or busted.
Naji was a first round pick a few years ago.
CEH was a first round pick the year before.
These guys aren't good and the market doesn't like them
anymore. And it's like we're not in a
place where there's a lot of really good young stud running
backs. And because of that, there's a
higher likelihood that you can get running back points later
that that like these guys can bubble up and take over
backfields. There's like 25 plus backfields
that are like reasonably take over able, right?
Like it's, it's, it's a, it's more than most years.
Normally we we have like 12 to 15 backs.
We feel pretty good about is the lead back.
We don't have that anymore. We're on the clock here.
We started with Garrett Wilson, JT, top ATP, Alave Waddle, wide
receivers, anything here. Good with either wide receiver.
Yeah, I like them both. Let's we'll grab you know what?
You want to break the tie away from the BI?
Sure. You know, yeah, let's do that.
Might as well. Just a just a stand alone
league, you know, gotta factor. In the SO I'm glad you brought
that up because the chat was asking about that for this
purpose and I know I should have said this at the top.
Treat this like a BBM because we do want to sauce this like a a
regular. OK, OK.
Yeah, it's. It's not as fun to be.
Like, well, we got unique, we got unique.
Yeah, exactly. But the the whole point I was
thinking about that is if there are there are all these late
running back points and to circle that back to Pacheco, it
makes it harder for Pacheco's particular brand of scoring to
really separate unless you think he has legendary upside, like
true legendary upside. That's, I think, the big
question. I don't.
I don't know if you don't either.
No, not really. Yeah.
Well, in the other to your point, Ben, like for that the
whole thing isn't about Pacheco on a vacuum, it's can he
massively separate from the Zamir whites in the Naji Harris
and all of those because that's what he has to do.
Even if he gives you like 20% more than those guys, like
you're completely fine. Right.
Yeah, but you know, like the legendary season is like 23 PPR
points a game. Like truly dominant and you do
find those seasons almost always in the very early rounds and
they're well worth like if you can hit on that, it's well worth
the opportunity cost at wide receiver.
But I mean, I do think there's like a point at which like,
well, you know what, I wrote that article originally.
It's like 18 points sounds great, but it's not great when
you're when you're taking on all the risk to hope to get 18
points. Like you're just, it's just not
a great bet. But eighteen points in the fifth
round could be pretty great. You know, it's like 18 points
versus like, you know, like a hit and wide receiver, there
might be like 14 points or something.
Or a couple spike weeks. Yeah, or a couple spike, but I
mean I think there is like an inflection point where Pacheco,
a non legendary Pacheco season would still be the right pick.
I just think that exact scenario is more difficult than the 2024
landscape. That I do too, yeah.
I do too, yeah. Just a couple of pros here.
Yeah, I like. How?
Let's do it. Yeah, we didn't.
We didn't go for puka, so it kind of makes sense.
To me, the thing that I've been thinking about with Pacheco and
obviously I get way less player taking with this stuff is, you
know, I've been you. You know, we have our trying to
get the four wide receivers through seven.
You know, it's, it's not a hard and fast rule, but just
anecdotally, I do feel best when I have that.
And knowing that I am often spending my luxury picks on like
1 running back and one tight end.
And it's not often coming from a running back at that 4-5 turn
and just wanting to mix it up a little more.
Some three wide receiver sets where I go Pacheco and then
maybe kiddo falls back for me and I'm still able to get that
elite tight end. But just like mixing up those
structures more. But because those early tight
ends come in round four and they feel like such a value to me
every time, I keep clicking, clicking, clicking, which I
don't think is bad per SE, but from a portfolio standpoint, I
do the same thing in a lot of drafts.
Yeah. And I I guess to that point the
those are pretty strong candidates to move up like I
think Pacheco could rise to the other side of the board in in
late August. So missing that window of time
draft them could be bad. A really weird take, but I
actually think if he rises it's probably indicative of all the
whole market moving in a way that actually might make him
more easy to. Draft because the.
You know what I mean? Yeah, I do.
The opportunity cost thing doesn't get as punitive.
Like it's a little bit of a different landscape.
Then I'm almost like I'll get my I'll get my Pacheco exposure
when he's more expensive. So that's what I'm thinking.
David Kitchen, welcome to the show.
I the chat wanted me to ask you a question.
How do you feel about getting the 110?
I mean, I was a little bit disappointed, but then I saw you
guys let me get A.J. Brown.
I'm like, OK, well it's not really the 110 if I get A.J.
Brown, is it? It's more like the 1.61.7.
I like. To see a little pep Pacheco step
stepped into the room and drafted Pacheco at four O 3 that
was. Beautiful.
Oh yeah. Immediately after Gretsch was on
Twitter today saying I'm so scared.
I'm so. Scared I can't draft him.
And then now I'm listening to him.
I'm like, OK, there's signal and there's noise and there's a
signal right there to to draft the guy.
You guys want to keep keep pissing.
You can have a choice of an elite quarterback Kelsey's.
Here I mean Alan or Kelsey, I think.
I wouldn't like. Kelsey over Allen.
Kelsey seems oh, that's a tight that's a that's a bye week
thing. We're going to start being week
6 bye week Bros. I know I said you want to break
it away from the the 12 and now we'll go three straight sixes.
It's fine. They can roast us accordingly at
the end. Kitchen, thank you for coming on
the show. I know you're super busy.
You've been doing like 20 hours a week of streaming on the
massively successful Live a little YouTube channel.
Thanks for kind of helping us out today.
No problem, check this morning 136 Subs.
People are just they were, they were looking forward to the
content. They're definitely looking for
the content because I tried to find Live a little on YouTube
like four different times before never finding it.
Having to go to your Twitter and clicking the link to get there.
Oh my God, I just went to YouTube to go subscribe but I'm
not going to be able to. Find it.
It's impossible to find. No, just type in live a little
fantasy football. David gets a news quotes.
You got these quotes. Signal noise.
The first thing I got was life, according to Jimmy as a That's a
good chance. Kitchen for people who aren't
soul cast viewers, and it's hard to imagine there anyone who
isn't. But do you want to tell them
about your bet with our short King Davis Matic?
Yeah, basically it it is that he needs to get 10,000 Subs before
he thinks he can get 10,000 Subs before I get 5000.
And and I am betting just on overlapping audiences and it
just feels like that second 5000 is a lot harder than the 1st
5000. So that's.
Terms for you know, like, do your children have to keep this
bet going like. If they never had these.
Bets. At what point is the bet?
Wow look at the multi millionaire shaming the blue
collar workers trying. To I'm still not at 5K you're.
Almost at 5K, you're almost at 5K.
And if you came in kitchen band performing at the Franklin Park
Performance Center in 2009, is that you?
Listen, Grandpa, I don't have time to show you how to use
YouTube, but Pat, you've only got like 48 videos and you've
already got like almost 5000 Subs.
Yeah, but so let's not act like you're really grinding out the,
you know. You're not counting the ones
that made private afterwards. You are you guys good with
Mahomes? You want to stack them up.
Yeah, I think that's great. Yeah, just go all week.
Six buys. A doomsday went five O 6 in this
room, yeah. But I don't know if there's any
difference between like these three guys here and all the guys
that'll be. There.
Yeah, Yeah. So.
Kitchen like when is gonna when's the next stream gonna be?
Because like, you know, one of Davis's biggest hacks for, you
know, helping him get a bunch of Subs right off the rip was doing
these really long streams. Like do you have a four hour
stream in your bag? I'm sure I do.
Yeah, I I am sure that I do. Last night, what I did was I
recorded a I'm, I'm going to play around in different formats
to try to beat the algorithm. Last night I Calvin boy.
All of the top stuff is just Kitchen.
Guest appearances. It's Liam's stream.
Living a little with David Kitchen, it's Bendel's stream.
It's the worst one, David. Kitchen, the guest appearance.
But anyways I recorded last. Night kitchen calls, Dairy Queen
mid draft. We got that.
That was actually a good one. 3rd overall and so I recorded
the draft and I'm just going to do a little voice over what I
did thought process cause a lot of people just want to kind of
get inside my brain as far as like what makes me pick it's.
More from like a scientific study standpoint, not tried to
get alpha. It's like, how did this person
end up like this? It's not like ACTE study, it's
like they want the they want the info.
Donate David Kitchen's grade to Best Ball Science.
Oh boy. Calvin Ridley.
You know what? I'm not a Calvin Ridley bro, but
I'll take him here. You I've found.
Three videos from this David Kitchen band.
They have 55 subscribers from 8 years of music they've been
making. This is a real thing.
Kitchen laugh at them immediately.
That's pretty good. Yeah, seriously, I almost, I
still have access to the old Fantasy Insiders YouTube account
that we made into a Best Ball account.
So it's got like all the old Fantasy Insider stuff.
And I was going to use that, but then it just felt like cheating
because it already had 1800 Subs.
Something like. That now you want to start.
You need the satisfaction of truly starting from scratch.
And you guys have a receiver you like, your lad BT Deonte Johnson
or JSN? Not particularly.
I'm good either way. I'm good with the lad.
Yeah, I've been getting more into LAD.
Yeah, same. Nice.
Yeah, let's I mean, this whole thing is like we didn't get a
great sample, didn't run a ton of routes, but he's he like his
target earning was fine on a per route basis.
If you look like the targets per out run and all that stuff, it
actually is. I mean, it's not no one's going
to be this year's puka, but it actually is like vaguely
reminiscent of that. Not a lot of routes, but did
earn volume and was efficient. Strong yards per target, strong
yards per out run. When he did play in college,
like I yeah, he's he's a weirdly high.
Ceiling prospect I think because like he flashed so he really
flashed as a target earner and a guy who gets open in the
intermediate area, which is like what they need but.
One of these Charger receivers has to like, get a large target
share of this Greg Roman offense, right?
Like that's what you're, that's what you're betting on.
Are you maybe saying? That that that was like I
literally my head as you were making that take was like
kitchen's actually going to give some real analysis comes on ship
chasing. He's going to give us a real
thing. And then he went to the Greg
Roman offense at the end just. Oh, you guys give real analysis
on this show? Not that much these days.
Because I might be on the wrong show so.
I don't want to pre roast Kiwi cat here too much, but the the
unstacked Josh Allen Lamar Jackson back-to-back picks in
this room is a is a choice for sure.
Sounds like something Kitchen might do on one of his, yeah?
What's wrong with the double? What's wrong with the double
quarterback strategy? Well, how long do you have,
Dave? Well, here's the thing, we take
these hard stances every year. We laugh at people.
This is where the whole little, little concept comes from is
sometimes you just have to break outside of the mold of oh, this
can't happen. This can't happen.
We don't know that it there's stuff.
If we got everything right with predictions and rankings, then
there wouldn't be all these things.
I got wrong columns after the season was over.
Strout at 79 is actually like Kitchen's whole point right now.
Like at that his ADP. Unstacked on our team, yeah.
Do you have a favorite? Pat mentioned Brooks.
So that's who's here. That's fine.
I like that.
Yeah, that's probably my favorite.
The the Stroud fall hasn't made any sense to me.
And then you get him behind that in this room, like, that's
weird. Well.
Our guy Phil gets him stacked up with Nico too, which is.
Beautiful. He's going to win this league.
He's got Trey McBride, too. Only roasting, no complimenting.
Yeah, you bet he took Derrick Henry.
Derrick Henry's 90. Boy.
Pat, talk about taking Jonathan Brooks ahead of ADP right before
he's going to get cheaper. Yeah, So we, we have to talk
about this on the Legendary Upside podcast that came out
this morning where I'm like starting to just like, like, I
don't know, I, I don't love that the whole thing of right about
he's before he's about to get cheaper is because we're like
betting on the market to do something that we all think is
wrong. And I think they probably do the
thing that's wrong. I think he does probably drop,
but he shouldn't drop. And I think he's well priced
here and I think he probably rises at the, you know, by the
end of the summer. So I just feel it's starting to
feel like a little too precise to me where I'm like.
Why is he going to get cheaper? Is it because like?
He's going to start training PAMP on PUP.
Right. And people are going to go pup.
That means you miss games. Isn't the market.
Pretty aware that this guy's like a really talented player
and is already factoring in that it's a back way to production
and not counting on a lot of September production with.
Right, right. So that's why I'm like, maybe
this never materializes. Maybe I'm like, it's
disrespectful for the market. To meaningfully, I don't think
he's going to get way cheaper, yeah.
And I just think he's, I think he's a good pick.
So I'm like, you know what, I'm going to take some more Brooks
and the market can do what the market wants to do.
All right, our team so far, the ship chasing team that's
unroastable because it's so perfect.
Patrick Mahomes to Kelsey. We got Jonathan Brooks as our
lone running back, four receivers, Garrett Wilson, Jalen
Waddle, Cooper Cup lad, Mcconkey, not a wide receiver
Insight. Actually, Sutton and Lockett are
here. Swift and Bowers.
Or some Bowers, I think. Yeah, yeah.
Those are the you want to have some fun with Bowers?
All right. Even though Levitan posted a
screenshot of a link to an article that was from like 8
weeks ago that was talking about him being a blocker.
Did anyone go? I was the only one that went to
Fact Check where that article came from.
I literally googled the words and I pulled it up and it was
from an article like two months ago.
It just the one that's harmed us all.
That Michael Mayer might play more snaps or.
Whatever it was about, or it was about them wanting to like have
their guys be blockers first and foremost and whatnot.
And I was like, 'cause I went to Rotoworld and I was like, was
this like a new blurb? And he just pulled it from an
old ass article? So I, I have a story about kind
of the, the tree of, of live a little.
So my, my mom is the, my grandparents house they're
selling. And so there's all these and my
grandfather's an artist and there's like all these paintings
and sculptures that he did and stuff and a bunch of like other
stuff in the house that's got sentimental value.
So she's got, she's one of five. So they're splitting all of
these things up, and they're doing a snake draft to do this.
Yeah. And it's actually not just third
round reversal, but every odd round reverses.
So it's like 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, all of reverses.
Yeah. Which is my uncle's idea.
What do you call that? Like not a snake draft, not I
mean it's like. It's like reversing snakes
because it's like. McDonald's.
It's like a snake and then it's snakes and then it's snakes.
Yeah. Yeah, it's like McDonald's.
McDonald's. Why does your mind?
Yeah, because it's doing fast food kitchen.
It's. Doing this, it's a golden
arches. No, no, it's not doing this.
It's doing this, you know. It's too.
Snakes. It's too snakes, Zorro like
this. Yeah, yeah.
We we are going to need a touch. There we go.
It's like that. This is amazing.
Does this have anything to do with your your win that they
decided to turn into a fantasy? Draft no, no, they well, they
needed to do a fairway to do it. And you know, snake draft with
reverses is the battles fairs you're going to do.
So OK, let's let's pick here and I'll, I'll continue.
Yeah, we are in a true actually Palmer.
Yeah, we could do Palmer with LAD.
Palmer with LAD, yeah, that seems fine.
Don't do it. Don't do it.
Because only one guy is going to get a big part of that Greg
Roman offense. Well, you're betting on one of
those two guys and if it's one of them, you hit the lottery.
We're. Getting on everyone doing
research on, on Jim Harbaugh offenses and saying they've
never been anywhere higher than than bottom 5.
And pass rate that that isn't necessarily indicative of what
he's going to have with Justin Herbert when he's had like Colin
Kaepernick as his quarterbacks in the past and Alex Smith, like
it's a little bit different, right?
I think people might be wrong on the pass rate of the of the
charge. I, I think, I think they're
probably right, but I love the price 'cause you get to bet
basically for greed that they're wrong.
That's that's the better way of putting it.
I don't know that they're definitely wrong, but like the
market is very certain about. This.
One way to be wrong and that way is like all.
That way is Justin Herbert beats expectation.
I I love Herbert. I think he's one of the best
picks. He's my second highest drafted
quarterback after you know who. Kitchen, Did you take Zamir
White because of that photo of him looking Jack?
The other day 100% did he the amount of broken tacos the guys
going to have this year. I don't know if you guys saw the
we'll get back to Pat's fascinating story in a second,
but I hope you saw the I think it it might have been Warren
Sharp that or Ian. One of them clipped like all of
Madison's touches from inside the five yard line last year and
they were just terrible. Like they he's not going to
compete for any goal line touches there.
Yeah, but their whole team might they, they just might not have
any goal line touches, period. What's it like to just be afraid
of everything? What's it?
Aren't you worried? I just love that you drafted
severe white who's going to break so many tackles and then
probably not gain any yards, just like the guy you drafted
right before I'm. Not he's so big up top like I'm
worried about his like center of gravity like it's.
Going to break tackles and have no yards after contact.
The next defenders just going to commute him.
Oh, Derek Henry can't catch passes.
We can't have him on our team for the past five years.
Derrick Henry has been on J JS do not draft list for like the
past five years. JJ One.
Year, JJ. By the way, new draft guide in
stores now Sports guide Devante. Yeah, I think a running back
here makes sense. OK, can we finish the story
please because we have a. We're doing a snake.
Draft OK, so we're you know, help I'm helping her kind of
talk through what you know what she thinks are the most
important stuff, what she really like to get.
But then as we move down into some of the stuff that's like,
you know, it's like kind of more nice to have like some of her
mom's China, you know these like sterling silver type that type
of stuff right. So I'm explaining you don't know
kind of what's going to happen with, you know, the what other
people are going to take. And that's where you kind of
want to get things into tears. So I helped her create like
tears of, of her stuff so that she can flow with the draft a
little bit more easily. And I'm kind of explaining like,
you know, there's a few different ways the draft can
play out. And she goes, yeah, we we just
don't know. Wow, look at that.
Wise words. So Pat's spouse is now part of
the David Kitchen trip. No, my mom.
Oh, this your mom? OK, well, that's even weirder.
But. When she said that, when she
said that, what did you say? I told her about you.
I told her about living little, and I told her about we just.
I was like, all right, I gotta tell you.
I gotta. Tell you mom, sit down for a
second. I don't even know how I would
where I would start if I had to explain David Kitchen.
Who knows if it's actually serious?
Or it's like I have to explain David Kitchen to my mom now.
You know how there's those like viral trends they used to do
where it'd be like send someone like this text message and then
like screenshot. You know how they respond that
that's every ship chaser is say mom, what what should they say
about David Kitchen? Mom, do you agree that David
Kitchen is the the father of modern best ball?
And see what the responses are? All right, we're on the clock
here. Feels like a running back range
for us here. Gus Chase Brown, Zeke Ford,
Eckler Charbonnay. I don't think Gus serves a
purpose. He's correlated, helps us get
Brooks. Serve a purpose.
With Brooks, I do. OK I feel like he's like anti
correlated to the treasure passing play but maybe?
Who would be your choice, Gretch?
I I would be Chase, Yeah for more like all right.
I feel like a a Gus Edwards story to the Chargers season is
not a lad plus Josh Palmer story to the Chargers season but maybe
that's. All it's just that the offense
is underpriced. Yeah, if we if we're going to
win this twelve person tournament, we we need Chase
Brown Kitchen. Does your mom know what best
ball is? No, not a chance.
I mean, I was actually. Isn't that gonna be weird?
When she asked, what do you do for a living?
And you're like, oh, I'm a best ball streamer.
She just learned that. Yeah, she just learned not to
ask. But as far as like the the
concept of best ball, I was talking to a person at one of
Kara's basketball camps and they knew that like, I've been in
fantasy for a long time. They have like a hardcore
fantasy league. There's always drama out of it.
Like I sometimes I get the play by play.
Like this has been running for 15 or 16 years straight.
He had never heard of best ball before.
Wow. We're still.
So we're still so early. This actually reminds me leg up
household item rankings. I was tagged in something.
Pat were you did a legendary upside?
Create some merch bottle openers.
Oh, so that was as part of Scott Fishbowl, your sponsor for Scott
Fishbowl, so that that the live drafts came with a, a like a
bottle opener. Wow, how did that take two
specific live draft? And all of the live drafts like
'cause there's like a, you know, like a kind of a goodie bag that
comes with, with going a little. How did that take place?
I I want to know like from the business owner perspective, like
did you just say bottle openers, that's me or did they?
Ask you. Something.
Was it a snake draft for items for all of the sponsors?
Yeah, they're trying to tell me like what the charity was about.
I was like, yeah, yeah, cool, cool.
Do I get the bottle openers? I actually.
Do have two little. Little David's.
Question. I have David's question too.
How did you get in the In the Bottle Opener sponsorship
business? I, they reached out to me about
sponsoring and I sponsored the, some of the live events.
And so as you know, as many other sites did.
And then there was kind of like they wanted to pair some of the
logos with what they were doing. So they actually thought that
would work well 'cause it's like a Star Wars themed bottle opener
and so like the leg up logo they thought would look good with
that. Wow Kitchen, did you get hit up
to be a sponsor? No, I did not.
I did not did. You get hit up.
I. Didn't me either.
Someone, I don't know if I did get hit up for sponsorship
though, two days ago for the FSGA, like the big Fantasy
Sports and Gaming Association, but they had the wrong number.
It was Digger Turnbull. And he left a message.
What? And it was like, hey, hey,
Linda, this is Digger. Just want to know, just want to
follow up on sponsorship. And I'm like, I don't know how.
And so I sent him a text. I'm like, hey, this is David
Kitchen. And so he was like, OK, someone
gave me your number. And obviously I was like, I
figured like some wires got crossed.
But then I was like #1 who's Linda?
And #2 like, who gave my number to Digger and said, this is
David Kitchen. It was, or this is Linda, and it
was really David Kitchen. Like something weird happened
somewhere. That's funny that you just
rolled with it and just put Linda on the hook for like a big
six figure sponsorship commitment.
I just need. The platinum give me the table I
just. Learned that that event is in
Boston. In my neck of the woods the the
fantasy cabal didn't even hit me up.
I could have, could have spoken at the Boston.
That used to be like the thing for the fantasy Bros to go to
like you didn't even register for the conference.
Like Silva never registered once for the conference or if he did,
he never went. But I remember one time it was
in Nashville and and like just all the fantasy Bros rented a
house and like did not even come to the conference.
It was all about the after party, the what do you want?
Here. I don't I'm I'm good either way
all. Right, let's just triple Justin
Herbert in this reality. Greg Roman gets fired, they hire
Hal Mummy to just run an Air raid offense, and we have
Quinton Johnson, Joshua Palmer and Lad Mccocky.
Soccer Dave talking about the FSGA just reminded me of like a
repressed memory from really early in my fantasy days.
I went to the FSGA in LA in. I want to search like 2016.
Maybe it was 2017 January 2017. I only bet I I've started
writing in 2015, right. So it's like I've been in the in
the industry for like a year. Couple people knew who I was by
this point, not really many kitchen.
I apparently had heard of me. We're, we're in some group
talking and I had mentioned the, the FSWA Writers Awards.
The, the nominations came out and I was like, somebody made
some comment or something and I made a comment that I was kind
of bummed about it. And kitchen just looked at me
and laughed. And he goes, you're pumped.
You didn't, you didn't get a nomination for the FSWA.
You just like wound on me for this like and I was like, oh,
OK, we got some. I never I never nominated for
the FSWA again. I was like, you have to like
self nominate for that process. And it's like, apparently that's
something to not go after this industry.
Boy, that's a repressed memory that you just pulled out of
nowhere like that. I mean, it must have that must
have felt some sort of way, me saying that.
I apologize. Kitchen, We all have memories
like that from things that you said to us that were so.
Impacted like stick with us. I mean, it was just the, IT was
the, the scoff and like the, the total David Kitchen scoff of
like, oh, you wanted something. You, you, you wanted what?
Was going to happen. We were at, we were at the
conference. We were at the conference.
Oh. Yeah, geez.
I mean, yeah, if if we're at a conference, we're having fun and
then you're over there in a corner crying.
Andy Barrett doesn't think I'm good enough.
Like, you know, like, yeah, you probably deserve some of that,
like. It's just some of your
expectations. And like.
I love kitchens. Say man.
Oh God it really affected you. I'm sorry.
I'm genuinely sorry. But also, you fucking deserved
it. Kitchen.
Do you have any? Do you have any industry
hardware taking anything down over the years?
Yeah. Like what?
I don't like to brag, you don't, but the fantasy pros did a.
He says Adam Thielen if. You guys are going to let me
have him. I actually wanted Wandell to
pair with Anthony Richardson or whatever.
Instead of pairing Anthony Richardson with, you know, one
of his wide receivers. Like he's going to pass to his
wide receiver anyways. They had ADFS competition back
in the day, the fantasy Pros did and he's wanting.
To go Bucky or a running back would would be nice here.
And I want it. I want it once.
Jalen Wright is still there. Holy shit that'll be good.
I was going to say him last when we had the ram the the Chargers
in the queue, but way past CDP for Jalen Wright.
Easy game. Sorry Kitchen, tell us this
story about. Yeah, he's 150.
Five, you want a participation trophy.
Yeah, sorry for interrupting me. Fast.
No, it's a DFS. So I won it and Tuttle won it
twice. And so and this were like, they
were given $100 away every week. It was like a free roll.
And we took those badges, the fantasy pro badges, and we
made-up these accuracy matters. And this is what Tuttle was kind
of saying in the in the slowcast chat.
And you know who it ticked off the most?
Drew Dinkmeyer, he could not handle that number one, that we
had won the three DFS fantasy pros accuracy thing, but just
the thing of accuracy matters. Oh, he scoffs so hard at that.
You know, he and Leone are slaving away doing every single
sport projections and Tuttle and I are just shipping this stuff.
And then we say accuracy matters.
And it was, it's like he, he kind of had the same thing with
like screenshots when they first came out.
It was just like, you do not talk about your winnings.
You do not share your screenshot, you know, like it,
it is uncouth. And he he came around so.
What do you guys want to do here?
Chuba with Brooks, Braylon. Allen, Braylon.
Allen. Who?
Yeah, Braylon Allen, we're tied on Tracy even.
I mean, we could get him later. Yeah, let's do Braylon.
That is, the only thing that would have been funnier is if it
was said all accuracy matters. This was way before any sort of
political statements out there. Oh man, what it how did you, how
did you get that feedback from Dink where it was in a your
private chat he was expressing dissatisfaction with that
result. I'm I'm sure it was like in our
private chat on Twitter scoffing.
Drew's character arc has been amazing and I've talked about
this publicly, but the guy is the most thoughtful person in
the world right now. Like you don't have a more
thoughtful person. Andrew Dinkmeyer at his wedding.
He literally wrote everyone like these huge cards and had him
pinned up for every single guest.
He is so intentional with like gratitude.
The man is amazing. When he first started DFS he was
not that amazing. He was hanging out with a guy
named Hicksville Hunk, which was like the biggest douche in the
world. That's a that's a made-up name,
Hicksville. Hunk No.
Yeah, this guy, this guy went on to become like a minor League
Baseball GM, but they would just sit in the draft St. chat and
just make fun of people and to see where he is now, you know,
building thousands of wells in Africa a year like it is it is
amazing. Like I'm, I'm not even joking,
OK? But that period of time everyone
was sitting in in message boards on fantasy sites, making fun of
people like who wasn't doing that 1015 years ago?
No, Gretchen, you know that feeling.
You know that feeling you felt when Andy Baron's didn't give
you a nomination? And then when David Kitchen made
you feel like shit for wanting. And then I said, hey, we're
drinking. We're drinking, right?
Now, hunking on FSWA, you fucking did all right, yeah.
Yeah, like if Tracy. And so I'm just.
Saying yeah, it looks good. It's it when he would make fun
of me sometimes it made me feel some some kind of way.
Yeah. And now what do you think was?
What do you think led to his transformation?
Oh wait, you have repressed memories from Dink dunking on
you in the draft St. chats. Yeah, that's what I'm saying
years ago. In a way, do you blame Dink for
what you said to Gretsch that night?
Maybe Dink's character arc is a little different than Pat's
character arc because it's like when Dink won the $1,000,000, he
became like, thankful, grateful. He's an awesome person.
What about me? He.
Want me to finish that thought? Yeah, hey, he sponsored the
bottle openers. Bottle.
Openers, Bottle openers, Bottle openers.
How do you spell this guy's name?
I've been trying to look him up. HIXVILLE.
Hunt or hunk? Hunk.
What a name. OK from well, there's an article
about him. Who is the Hicksville hunk?
I'm a 21 year old student at Elon University.
This is who Deke was hanging out with.
This article's on Rotogram. And this, and let me just let me
just preface by saying like, just like Deke was like a little
bit of a douche, this guy was probably a little bit of douche
and is a much better person now as well.
But boy, that can make people feel some kind of way.
This is who this does look like Dick's friend here.
This is this is the bad influence on Dick but take on 21
years old. Wait, that guy's name is Hunk?
Was he? Was he 17 when Dick was?
Hanging out with him. No, this is that article is from
like 15 years ago. It's like literally from 10
years ago. We got to get a receiver here, I
think. Yeah, yeah, great door season.
Yeah, that's the work. Season short.
King Summer. I'm down with whatever, let's do
it. OK, so it was, it was it was
reposted or something, OK. Yeah, yeah.
It's like that that those are, you know, for the algorithm.
Wow. SERP SERP rankings and such.
And did he they had a break up? Oh, hang on.
I'm sorry, I don't know. Some of the photos of this guy
are too good. Look at this one.
This is this is who potentially sent Dink on a path to being an
awful person, and then no. That's not, I'm not saying that,
I'm just saying that together they were kind of bullies back
in the day. Like that's all I'm saying.
Yes, OK, I hear you. I hear you.
This was 2015. This was almost 10 years ago.
People change. People did change, but can you
talk a little bit about your tight end?
Are you going to do a Dan Zach? The point of that story got
missed. We all took away from that story
what we. Wanted Gretch.
You were being kind of a downer. You were.
You're kind of killing the vibes.
Yeah, J JS caught a stray dink's caught some.
Major strays. He's catching insane Hicksville.
No, Dink is Hicksville hunks. The one catching strays.
I've already like made it clear about Dink that I think that I
love the guy and there's not a better person in the in the
world than Drew Dinkmeyer, so. Yeah.
Dink's form herself. The lady doth protests too much.
Me paid you off with those wedding notes itself.
I want you guys to know that I did finally figure out how to
subscribe to live a little YouTube got him to 136 nice.
Subscribe as well. Let's let Yeah, once this draft
is done, we're going to we're I'm going to drop this link in
the chat. We need a major push here to get
kitchen nipping at Davis's heels.
Kitchen. How are you landing the plane
here? Four straight tight ends.
Is this what your Sims told you to do?
This is this is the ethos of live a little late round tight
end crush last year. Maybe it crushes again this
year. We just don't know.
And you know, I'd already drafted 2A quarterbacks.
I had five great running backs for Underdog.
Do we get a Patriot? Is there any Patriot receiver
left Kendrick Warren? Osbourne Yeah, yeah.
Coming off of Let's Do It. Or Josh Reynolds just doesn't
Denver plan in Week 16 that would be an option?
Yes, I missed that in Denver in in 17.
Yeah, we grabbed Kendrick Bourne.
We got to get guys. All this kind of industry, you
know, circle jerk stuff is all nice, but we need to get into
roasting form here. That's right.
Kitchen. You you know the mission here.
We're about to go, Yeah, brew these teams.
I think what we should do is the three of us should roast
Kitchen's team, Kitchen should roast ours, and then we can
collectively go through and and roast the ship chasers here.
So you guys wanna do? We have to roast Kitchen's team.
I mean you can just look at it. Oh, I mean, wow.
I'm sorry that I hurt you so much.
Yeah. It's payback.
I've been waiting eight years for this moment.
So for the audio listeners, Kitchen Drafted Anthony
Richardson and Brock Purdy. Isaiah Pacheco, Naji Harris,
Amir White, Trey Benson, Gus Edwards, A.J.
Brown, Brandon IU, Zay Flowers, Calvin Ridley, Ricky Pearsall,
Darnell Mooney, Adam Thielen. And now I'll read the tight
ends. Pull up a chair.
Tyler Conklin. Isaiah Likely.
You'd think I'm about to stop, but I'm not.
Jelani Woods. It keeps going.
Chig a Conquo. Hey, all four of those tight
ends might run as many routes as one normal tight end in a given
week. That's that's good.
And kitchen? Kitchen.
You took you took Brock Purdy over selecting, you know, a
single wide receiver to pair with Anthony Richardson.
Did you ever consider staff? We knew he was going for Jelani
Woods as his third tight end before.
I'm going to be honest, it's a naked AR for me on an underdog.
Like the price of these receivers, these Colts receivers
are just crazy. So that's why I knew and.
You did finish with a naked AR. You, you drafted Kylan Granson
and Will Mallory's backup, the Titan 3.
He's on his team. But yeah, it is a naked AR Bill.
You don't like Jelani Woods, Ben?
The only Jelani Woods. The concept of roasting.
No, I mean, well, no, no. Kitchen found a way to, like,
draft equal amounts of players who are only going to produce
the first eight weeks of the season and then a bunch of zeros
like elsewhere. It's honestly incredible.
This run of Ricky Pierce or Darnell Mooney and Adam Thielen.
Literally, I mean. They kind of, I kind of get the
thesis you're getting Ricky Pierce.
I love that we we got both Calvin Ridley and Chica Conquel
'cause he's the one person in the industry that thinks Will
Levis is actually good. No, it's not about being good it
it's about being offensive minded.
New system pushing the ball down field, lots of passing attempts.
Can we see see where Will Levis won here?
Because how tempted were you to take Will Levis?
You had Ridley, you end up taking.
After the two quarterbacks, I didn't even look at him.
Wow, Yeah. He went what, 88?
Kitchen was so worried about the AD PS to these Indianapolis pass
catcher, you know, just notoriously super sensitive to
maybe overpriced rookies, young guns, that he had to take Ricky
Pearsall 8 picks at 80 ahead of ADP.
Just a stack. Every every lineup tells a story
this. Lineup on the story.
This lineup tells a story, and it is Debo hamstring pull week
two. That is what it is.
The live a little element here is maybe in this world Najee
Harris and Gus Edwards will combine for a 120 yard run this
year. Tell me you don't pay attention
to tighten you without telling me you don't pay attention to
tighten you all. Right kitchen, you get to pay
back. You know, the boys were kind of
trying to host an entertaining show while drafting, so take it
easy on us. What do you see here?
Yeah, for the audio listeners, you just need to know that this
is a the new strategy. You've heard of robust row
running back, You've heard of 0 running back.
Have you heard of negative running back?
Because that's what this is, not one single starter on this team.
So that's where we're going to start.
We're going to start with the negatives.
Jonathan Brooks, Carolina's you heard it here on the PUP list,
running back to maybe Javonte Williams.
Will he even make the team? We just don't know.
Chase Brown. Yeah, lots of opium on Chase
Brown. I'm glad you guys have your bags
packed. Jalen Wright Actually, this is a
different one, 'cause this is actually the third running back
on that team. Braylon Allen.
Again, really hoping there. And Tyrone Tracy, which I I
don't hate. I don't hate in the 16th round,
but it would have been nice to get one starter there.
So. They say like don't have any
zeros on your roster, You don't want a zero.
This guy's drafted 2 zeros starting out, so weeks one
through 8 gonna be good. But what I do like is that you
guys will have the bragging factor, you know, always like,
oh man, if if we were in the playoffs right now, my team
would have been awesome. We just didn't get there like
week 17 when you're, you know, defunct team as that was dead in
Week 8 does not advance. You can just pull up the
screenshot, be like, oh, I was we were there.
We were so there. Fundamentally, we are correct.
We have the rest of the team, Garrett Wilson, Jalen Waddle,
Cooper Cup, we. Were correct.
Patrick Mahomes with the dust of Travis Kelsey, Brock Bowers.
I, I mean, I don't hate the rest of your team, to be honest.
Too few. Tight ends kind of for your
liking. Yeah, and you got you got Justin
Herbert with Josh Palmer and Ladd Mcconkey.
And honestly in this offense, I think that's probably, you guys
probably stumbled upon this. But in this offense, one of
those guys could go off so. What about one of the three?
Yeah, no, I like that. Oh yeah, you got another one.
What I what I picked up from this is weeks one through 8 is
all that matters. No, it doesn't matter that our
sheep's. Going to peak late no Ben weeks
one through eighter. All that matters.
Hey, Ben, it's not all that matters, but you know how like
when they announce the awards, the FSW awards, Yeah, you have
to be nominated for those awards to win that award.
You've got to. You've got to get.
Through that door. This team of yours is not
getting through that door. Oh, man.
Well played. David Kitchen.
Let's let's set our sights on JB Phil.
This was his suggestion. He really wanted to do this
draft, this sauce Draft A3573A. Joe Burrow, Matthew Stafford,
Bryce Young, Josh Jacobs, Aaron Jones, Raheem Moser, Jerome
Ford, Kamani Bedell, Wide receivers.
Drake, London. Debo, Samuel.
Amari. Cooper, Rashi.
Rice, Jacobi. Meyers, Xavier Leggette,
DeMarcus Robinson and then Titan.
Sam Laporta, Ben Sinnett and Jatavian Sanders.
I'll open up the line of questioning with there's nothing
more cute than saying who are the two candidates to be this
year? Sam Laporta in drafting both of
them with Sam Laporta. Where do you get your ideas, JB?
I'll also say, do we have, can you scroll back up real quick?
Do we have a Matthew Stafford single stack to DeMarcus
Robinson on this team? We just don't know.
Kitchen. Is this the Cooper Cup puka?
Kyron Williams all tear their ACL in Week 1.
Story this This is the scenario of two crossing routes with puka
and Cup going into each other. Double concussion.
Week. 16 and DeMarcus Robinson coming out on top and.
This is off their helmet. Are you with Robinson's head?
I cannot think of an unsexier group of wide receivers in this
one. Yeah, I mean Amari Cooper's the
wider receiver 3. Rasheed Rice probably going to
get suspended as the wider receiver. 4I mean I think he
knew he was getting sauce. So we tried really hard to like
balance everything and like those receivers I wouldn't get
you are just shit. You can't hide the wide receiver
in wide wide receiver three and wide receiver four and wide
receiver 5 being Jacoby Myers and think we're not going to
find that that you you you're just you're fucked.
But you had. Burrow So you get Bryce Young
there, you know. No, my my favorite thing about
Burrow, you know, because he's not going to offer a lot
rushing, you know, you double, you triples.
Oh, you don't pair him. Completely missed.
He's not completely. Unstoppable in this reality,
Cooper, Cub and Pukunukua smash into each other and Joe Burrow
morphs into Anthony Richardson and rushes for 1000 yards is how
this team works. Any other thoughts?
Kitchen here. What do you think of this
running back? I'm trying to remember the Week
17 opponents for those quarterbacks too, because we
don't have bring backs on any of them.
I don't think we don't have a Tampa, a Denver or an Arizona on
this team. Yeah, it would usually just jog
my memory when I saw the player on the team, but in this case
there's there's no real correlation.
I thought it was nice, maybe a little bit confusing.
JB Phil actually clicked an article of running backs not to
draft this year and thought they were the running back targets
for this year, so that was nice. If you don't watch the first
like 2 minutes of the YouTube channel when it says like do not
draft these 5 running backs and you just kind of skip over the
ads like Josh Jacobs, Aaron Jones.
He's just looking at the he's just looking at the chapters and
marking them down. You can't.
Just look at the type stamps. You gotta look at the title too
man. The context matters, all right,
but the stacking with. The Bryce Young, Xavier Leggett,
Jatavion Sanders double stack is, I mean, that's Primo, that's
that's going to be the best passing game.
You guys see Bryce Young's working year?
Well, I love how it's like you're cruising along and you're
like, stacking doesn't matter, dude.
You just Rod Dog, Joe Burrow and then by the end you're like, I
got a double stack Bryce Young with rookie Smart ever going to
see the field. I do what?
Let's take a look at Kiwi Cat here, who took Josh Allen and
Lamar Jackson did finally get Rashad Bateman, which shouldn't
even count as stacking I guess. Devantez Walker here.
Did he Josh? Literally broke Leonie's draft
capital bucket measurements. It's just like.
Dawson Knox with Alan and is that?
A few beats. He drafted Josh Allen, woke up
in a coma in round 18 and. Goes oh shit, Dawson.
Knox He talks Allen to Dawson Knox and Lamarr Jackson.
Rashad Pavement single stacks. And again, no bring backs.
No Houston, No Jets. What if that's what you need,
you know? Kitchen, What do you think about
this roster? Anything else jump out to you as
far as this Mona Lisa? No.
OK, so here's the thing. I thought we were drafting in
the spirit of like a best ball tournament draft.
We were. This is Yeah, we.
I mean, we're. Ending.
Between try to understand the format.
Because yeah, still. Better receivers than the last
team threw five and then decided they needed nine instead of I
don't. I mean another running back when
Austin Eckler's in your build and Rashad White.
Now hang on, hang on Moss, this is a four running back build.
These guys fucking suck. This guy said he first of all I
shorted him Ted so he actually double stacked Lamar, but also
he says the app crashed on Lamar Kitchen.
What is that? What happened to you when you
took Lamar and Allen together? I mean either.
We're throwing, we're at a sauce draft and we're throwing the app
under the bus. My.
God. Yeah, it's working for everybody
else, but it's it's it's the equivalent of my dog ate my
homework, the. Wi-Fi at this resort is a
disaster. All right.
Who else wanted some sauce in here?
Does anyone want it? Deonte Johnson is your wide
receiver. Three, though, Has to be.
That's. All right, here's Emo, Dak
Prescott, Baker, Derek Carr, Travis ET and Joe Mixon, Jalen
Warren, Singletary, Ty Chandler, CD Lamb, Mike Evans, DK Metcalf,
Jane Reed, Rashid Shaheed, Josh Downs, Jermaine Burton, Titans,
K dot and Jawan Johnson, and Colby Parkinson.
Apparently, this team gets to live in the reality Where Puka
and Cooper Cup bang into each other in week one too.
Now I I didn't expect to say this, but I think you actually
should have taken a fourth tight end, but.
Also you shouldn't have stopped at 7 receivers when she cheated.
Was your five Like what is? Yeah, I double digits.
Five more roster spots to build this out.
Yeah, no one, no one has the courage to say it yet, but the
Rashid Shahid stuff is going to end up being Marquez Callaway
all over again and no one wants to admit it.
Or MVS or I mean, yeah. Yeah, I would just like to say
Emo Cowboy is also a big supporter of the Live a Little
brand. Don't get soft now we're
roasting. So in that spirit, I do think
that the Derek Carr to Juwan Johnson's stack is going to what
lands the ship so brings the ship into the harbor.
My my favorite thing about this is he's I don't know anyone
who's a bigger fan of one player than he is of Jaylen McMillan.
And he got a Baker Mayfield double stack.
It didn't get Jaylen McMillan and it was just killing him
inside. I just, I love it.
Let's see here, at least you got.
Colin Parkinson. The.
Compilation prize. Yeah, Why does this team need
Derek Carr? Why?
Why does this team need Derek Carr?
Solely so you can grab Jawan. Johnson Yeah, yeah.
Man, all right, who else wants a roast team Nine What?
What team is? Oh, Ty Wilder here all.
Right Team 11. Want want the sauce?
OK. Jeez, what is up with you?
3 quarterbacks? Slappies.
Jared Goff, Deshaun Watson, Drake May You guys know you're
allowed to take two quarterbacks.
They, they, you know, they don't force you to take 3.
Bijon Gibbs. Holy avalanche, you are about to
get buried in James Conner, Marshawn Lloyd and Audric
estimate because of one athletic screenshot that Sam Sherman
posted on Twitter today. Taint Dell, George Pickens,
Hollywood Brown, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Jerry Judy,
Jalen Hyatt. I mean, there's like 1 1/2 good
receivers there. Even the.
Joku Hunter Henry and Johnny Smith.
I don't even know where to start with this team, fellas.
I mean, listen, Tank Del, I like him, but as your wide receiver
one, you know, you're you're probably going to be in a little
trouble. Yeah.
And then Jameson. No, but he got Hollywood.
Brown does his wide receiver 3. So yeah, so he's.
Well, also, Ty, just because you took Drake, May unstacked like
Pat's not sending you a bottle opener.
That's OK. You're not impressing anyone.
Oh, sorry, Hunter Henry. Bye bat, bye bat.
I mean Jameson Williams and Jalen Hyatt might both still
break out to save this dude. Yeah, Kitchen.
Kitchen's incapable of saying something bad about this team
because it has Jerry Judy and Deshaun Watson on.
It I was I was about to say I was about to say tell me that
you listen to the swole cast and this has big.
I don't know Ty that well, but if I were to guess, I'd say that
he has Josh Norris tweets on like the notifications on this
has big Josh Norris energy with the Hunter Henry, the Marshawn
Lloyd running back stuff, Shawn Watson.
So yeah. Anything else here from you,
Gretch? No, I mean just get this team
off my. Screen get out, get off the
screen. Who?
Who else wanted a saucepad? Demony.
All right, well, there's no the
money coming from this. Yeah.
This is the guy who's just a masochist and like, wants the
pain. If you look at this receiver
room, this is the most beta team on the board and it's not even
close. Look at these.
It is pretty beta. Harrison, Higgins, Pittman,
Hopkins. Oh my God, it gets worse.
Rondell Morris at the back. Rondell Robinson.
Other than Hopkins, it's every single like wide receiver three
in the league that's actually a wide receiver. 4I mean Arfan
Harrison, T Higgins. I mean once you start off with
Marvin Harrison, you're just begging to be recovering the
entire time. Kitchen.
I'm impressed. You could say something bad
about it with DeAndre Hopkins on here.
Really the only actual good wide receiver here.
Yeah, exactly. He's the only alpha in the in
the mix. He's a wolf.
If when you said that Wandalay, Ron, Dalay and Brandon cooks up,
you get one full alpha. If there is like the the fantasy
football version of S&M is drafting 2 Arthur Smith tight
ends, his former and his current one Kyle Piss just abuse me
Arthur keep abusing me. I love it.
It's pretty beta behavior, so. I mean, Breece Hall, Romandre
Stevenson, another drafter trying to get a leg up bottle
opener over here. Way to get you seriously what?
Brian Robinson run after it. Why T?
Higgins at 35 is like, what's the plan there?
You know wide receiver avalanche bro my streamed rooms are so
different from these regular ones.
I think he's thinking Jamar Jayce is going to run into
Cooper, Cop and Puka. To.
Is that is that the new? We just don't know.
Is what if all of their teammates run into each other
and get hurt? Well.
Dorch, as we know, is if he was taller, he would be one of the
best, yeah. Top five.
But if he was taller, Marvin Harrison would also be able to
to see him and not run until. Yeah, Also took Will Shipley.
This team will not be shipping any prize money, I'm sorry to
say, to money. Who else wants to get a little
rough, super Shorty? Our girl Stephanie here.
Trevor Lawrence, Will Levis, JJ McCarthy, Jaquan Barkley.
The sidekick told me he was a good value at pick 20.
Tony Pollard, Rico Dowdell, Antonio Gibson, Bucky Irving,
Justin Jefferson, Olave Kirk Worthy, Brian Thomas, Khalil
Shakur, Jahan Dotson, Tyler Boyd, Evan Ingram, and Jake
Ferguson. This is the most computer
automated team I've ever seen. A human did not draft this.
The human name Stephanie drafted this.
If people are worried about, you know, the sidekick, you know,
overtaking our best ball streets, look at this lineup and
feel a lot. Better it'll tell you to eat
Mayo with your QB too I mean. Kitchen, any thoughts here?
Yeah, no, I like it. It's got Will, Levis Pollard,
Tyler Boyd, as I'm not seeing too much wrong with it, Antonio
Gibson, Bucky Irving. This is the.
This is probably the best team other than the.
I would say it's like a perfectly calibrated team.
It just seems like it kind of hit the right positions at the
right time. This is.
Anytime you can get both of the unproductive Dallas running
backs from last year as your RB2 and.
RB3. I would just say there was like
the glitch in the computer would be in that fifth round.
That's when her app crashed, and that's when Xavier Worthy went
off the board. 53 when you when you draft Evan Ingram and Jake
Ferguson, your your thesis is what if those top seven Titans
all get hurt? Then what happens?
Well then you win. Congratulations, nice team,
super Shorty Nick is also saying that he used the the sidekick to
draft his. Let's roast another robot here.
Jalen Hurts Intua, Devon HN, Kenneth Walker, Alvin Kamara.
Man might need to. Change.
What's that ADP value you know I don't know.
Alvin Kamara, Nick Chubb are that's a rough RB3RB4 combo,
right? There Nick Chubb at 142 in an
avalanche room when Nick Chubb routinely falls to the one 50s
Roshan Johnson, Tyreek Diggs, Keen Allen, Tyler Lock at 80,
Mitchell Demario, Douglas, Marvin Mims, Luke McCaffrey, KJ
Osbourne. I mean, this is the kind of team
that makes you know the data analysts just want to turn over
in their graves. You do not need 9 wide receivers
on this team. They want you to stop.
No, it's fine, though, because TJ Hawkinson's definitely going
to be back by. Week 9 you don't need to type in
three because you can't. TJ all year, Tyler Lockett and
AD Mitchell as your 3/4 if they did use your software.
Pat, this is when you put out a disclaimer really quick that.
I think may appear. Closer KJ Osborne only to be on
Drake May teams. He's in the ranking for Drake
May teams only. No, I mean, Tyler Lockett as a
wide receiver, 4 is fine. I mean, that's not going to go
back. That's.
Definitely not super thin and a huge.
Problem Nick Chubb and TJ Hawkinson I like to stack guys
who have one meet. Beat the the Jalen Hurts like
Nick did. You just let out the most like
tepid Oh and you took Jalen Hurts and then forgot you had
him and didn't want to take another eagle.
No other Eagles. Yeah.
What happened though? That's called the tush push.
Optimization. Yeah, this is the without Jason
Kelsey. They actually tush push more
now, is what this team says. Anyone else want some sauce?
Who else do we have? We got Chad candles.
The one O 1. You can't mess up a one O 1
right? Yeah, well, you.
Kitchen. Well, let's.
See for a one O 1. Look at his team and you'll see.
All right, yeah, Anytime you draft CMC, you definitely have
to get up to six running backs really just kind of shore up the
position with quantity. Jane Daniels, Geno Smith, Daniel
Jones. What is Planet awards the layer
doing for this build? What does?
Half the running backs on this team do for this build.
Oh, this is Rich coming from you three and your running back
roster. We're all roasting him.
We are done being roasted. So.
This team is so desperately needed an eighth wide receiver,
but we just had to tack on Clyde Edward Solaire to it.
And Daniel Jones. Daniel, you're good.
You're Daniels and Smith. I mean.
Rebuilds nice because in week 17 none of those guys are going to
be playing so. He's drafting all these sleeper
receivers since like this is technically not in a league.
This is what you like point to is look.
Oh see, I was right on this guy. But like Devonta, Devonta Smith
as your wide receiver one. You know what I'll think do.
Some of these people think you can make trades like during the
season because Daniel. Jones for a wide receiver chat.
We're not accepting that he does get he gets the peace or the the
get out of jail free card. Dantavian Wix.
He knows ball. It's fine.
You had Wix to the roster, it's fine.
Yeah, no offense at 169. We got just a couple more we can
hit here to wrap this up. We had, we had this is fine.
Looking at this team, it's definitely not fine.
Jordan Love and Caleb Williams got to stack up those divisions,
bro. Kyron Williams, David
Montgomery, Tajay Spears, Ray Davis, Eli Mitchell, Khalil
Herbert, Aman, Rod Devante Adams, Rome, Christian Watson,
Jalen Polk. That's not going to fuck you.
Troy Franklin, Darius Slayton, DJ Shark, Mark Andrews, Bus
Grade. This dude was boring.
I fell asleep when you were reading that, no.
This is what this is is every lineup tells a story and this is
what if these injury prone guys all make it through the season
this year and don't get injured because you've got.
A Chow lineup. He gave me it's a Doctor Chow
lineup where you've got Chiron and Christian, Watts said.
Hey, who needs hamstrings these? Days who?
Who needs an ACL with Taiji Spears?
He doesn't even have an ACL. It's OK.
Mark Andrews. I'm a.
I'm a big fan of the 8 receivers because Roma Dunze is third on
his own team, Christian Watson can't stay on the field, Jalen
Polk probably going to get passed by his own teammates,
Troy Franklin I think is 4th on his team, Darius Layton's at
least fourth on his team, and DJ Sharks also 4th on his team.
So I mean there's like 7 routes there.
So at least you had to, you know, you had to get.
What about I'm around though? He'll run a lot of rounds.
I'm around Devante Adams, you know.
What's funny, every one of these wide receivers looks like the
one you settle for in the round that they go in.
Like he's hoping for the guy right ahead.
A Rod says one of them will be One of them will be comeback
Player of the year. Do we have it?
What do we have? So we have the double stack with
Love in Rome with Caleb. This is not fine.
Final one here, our guy burn zone deposit Kingdom royalty and
bouncer here. Let's see what we got for him.
He was the one who was able to scoop up the shroud, fall there
at 80. Aaron Rodgers.
Derrick Henry, James Cook, Zeke Tyler, LJR, JK Dobbins and Evan
Hole. Is that not a hail?
Man, how old is this running back room like this is crazy.
Even Evan Hole's coming off a major knee injury.
There's no not a single help and he's.
Backup Trey Serban. Is well, I was going to say The
Athletic is practically writing in all caps.
Trey Serban is the backup in Phil, right?
Got to take anytime you want to attack on 1/6 running back, make
sure it's one that's going to get cut and not resigned.
So it's just a wasted spot. Like, just because he's
technically a running back doesn't mean it's actually a
spot on your rock. Yeah.
Curtis Samuel is Your Wide receiver 4 is a nice way to
donate $10 to the underdog ecosystem.
Romeo Dobbs. Mike Wilson.
I love Miss Samuel Dobbs, Wilson.
We're like, I need a wide receiver.
Four. Let me take three guys who
aren't it. When you look up a photo of the
wide receiver Avalanche, they show you this trio of.
The warning? Take three guys that are not it.
This is the one at the end of the season where you're like, I
cannot believe that the combination of Puka and Nico in
the first second round did not pay off this year.
He did get the top 2 running backs drafted in the draft of
the year that Kitchen dunked on me at the FSW, Derrick Henry and
Ezekiel Allen. Well, the nice thing about
taking a pic like Zeke is you just know he can.
You know, paper over all of Derrick Henry and James Cook,
lack of early season production. You know, it's nice to have that
covered there. Man.
I feel like we all drafted really shitty teams today.
I'm I'm going to be especially disappointed when this team
advances instead of our team because it is built to crush
weeks one through 8. But.
There's no advancing right? No, there's not.
But theoretically. David Kitchen let the people
know if they want to see how you actually draft best ball teams.
They want to learn from the best to avoid the mistakes that
people saw on the screen today. Where do they go because the
leader thinks they don't know where to go?
Right, I probably should update the bio.
Yeah, maybe throw the link in the chat too, since it's.
Throw the link, we'll throw the link in the chat, we'll respond
to the chat. That was one of my favorite
things is I was like the first comment in the swole cast
comments section under the live a little channel account.
And I had a few people like I cannot find this channel
anywhere and then try to look in the comments section as part of
the fine art. Then what is up with all the
dashes? Live live a little foot.
So that's what you have to search because each kitchen, if
you search live a little fantasy football, which I just did.
It's gonna take a little bit of time.
It's in. No, it's in the live.
It thinks that in the Apple world.
Live a little. In the.
We'll be live for a little, live for a little.
It's called live for a little. That is what the name of the
channel 20 minute streams Live for a little.
I did discover this block fantasy guy is amazing because I
over tutored Subs but no our account is in the sandbox right
now so it's not gonna show up immediately.
No, they wanna say, is this channel legit?
I've searched for live a little David kitchen that gives you
nothing. That's when you get the music
type in David Kitchen up here after I live a little.
You're gonna start. Some great like 80s, I don't
know. I do this is what this is one of
my favorite bits here of the fantasy follows just some, you
know, everyone except maybe perhaps 1 short king.
Yeah. I'm not.
I am not. Part of the reason I'm doing
this is to motivate Davis. I do not want him to rest on his
lawyers. I want to motivate him.
I'm not using my platform to promote him until I get to 5K
followers and then I'll I'll, I'll elevate him.
I'll catapult. Him, we're going up.
You just added 13 Subs in that refresh.
There when I when I subbed a little bit ago, I was 136.
You're up. You're up 23 more since then.
This is crazy. This is how it starts.
You guys are part of my little little origin story.
No, we actually. You're in our tree.
You're the ship. Chasing.
You're in our tree. Part of the ship Chasing tree
now dude. This is like the trees eating
its own leaves. The father of the modern day
best ball tree. So for the audio listener, you
go to YouTube and you you type in at Live Dash, A dash little
Dash football, live a little, live a little, a little.
Guess he's OK. Davis Maddox seems to be live a
lot. Maybe Kitchen will be live a
little. Kitchen kitchen.
Here's a here's some free alpha from I've been doing some
YouTube things too. When you get to 55 minutes, just
go over an hour. It's it's helpful to get over
the hour. They don't.
They don't they're. Not going to listen?
I'll take all the help from you I can get.
I haven't been on YouTube shows for the past eleven years or
anything. Yeah, so.
It was about to flaunt his vid IQ subscription here.
I can tell why don't. We did I streaming it was like I
was subscribers. I was legit proud of Davis when
he said like he had a vid IQ subscription because like his
thumbnail is not exactly in a tear above Liam's thumbnails.
So I had like some questions on how serious is he taking like
the whole algorithm in doing this And the fact that he's on
the Bit IQ subscription means that he's taking it serious.
My favorite thing was Davis. He spent the time to get
overlays made, but then just had them be completely obstructed by
where the draft board and his video placement was.
Just said he's copying fantasy flock thumbs.
Is that a legit thing? Like is he?
Is that because that seems like something Davis would say?
GTO dude. Davis being like one of the most
unique voices in the space but then trying to like directly rip
off like other sort of successful thing would just be
so perfect. Hey God, I do have to.
I did just notice there was a shift in his thumbnail strategy
for this most recent one and it is What is this?
It's not even like shocked or any kind of strong emotion.
What's? The arrow pointing at There's
usually arrows, like pointing at a player.
He's got an arrow on the. Top I just I want to be there
behind the scenes when he was taking his photo and he's like
nailed it. Now that looks like he's
smelling his own fart and pants. You think I took this photo?
And, and this is where he's got to learn something because
honestly, there is there are studies that says open mouth a
lot better than closed mouth. Yeah, and then Mr. B said it
doesn't matter I. Thought that, he said.
The open mouth there a little bit over.
Finally, all right, subscribe to Live a Little and Live a Lot.
Our friends in the space and Steve stealing signals.
Gretch, Anything else? Gretch, this is your year on
FSWA Awards. Stealing signals.
I'm gonna put in a good word. For Newcomer of the Year, you
think? No, I'm gonna put in a good
word. I'm gonna call Digger Turnbull
back and say I'll donate. But.
I need that bottle opener. I I need Gretch to get a little
bit of a bump. Just give him a nom.
That's all. We need a nom.
We don't need the award. We just need a nom.
Because if I see JJ flaunt on his account, so blessed to have
this nomination again, I'm going.
Is JJ still going to win now that he doesn't have big FanDuel
behind him on these nominations? Might be a thing.
Yeah, I'm sure Carane's, you know, bottle opener will get him
a nom this year. Grease, Grease those pockets,
Pat. Anything else?
Where can people find your automated drafter and bottle
openers? I just want to shout out to
Scott Fishbowl, just one of the biggest charity events in any
any fancy related industries and just an awesome.
Pause. I get a text Adm from Ryan
McDowell, one of this I'm kitchen.
You are going to love this. Oh, I love Ryan, by the way.
Ryan's. Awesome, I love Ryan too.
Hey Pete, can you reach out to Karain and ask him to pick in
Scott Fishbowl? Oh no, place him soon and don't
want to do that. This is why I'm talking about
character art. 20/22/2022 Pat would have not let an hour go by
before selecting you have. 2022 Pat did and there are tweets to
prove it. I've I got there's some tags if.
Anything. Yeah.
No, honestly, he's been doing this in I'm a fantasy every
year. I'm like Pete.
We talked to Pat, like good Lord, I.
Told I told you the story of Dink being the most thoughtful
person and writing a letter for everyone at the party.
Meanwhile, Pat's in a room of 12 and just taking everyone else's
letters to him so they cannot draft.
You've got 11 other people in the room waiting to draft Pat.
I think. It highlighted people.
Summer. I got it.
In the I can't believe it got so bad that he had to message you
that he was gonna have to replace it.
But he's a. Sponsor What's it like being
Pat's emergency contact? I was, I was livid.
I was absolutely livid. I was such disdain copied
directly copied Ryan's message and pasted it in a text message
to Pat and I said nothing else. I'm merely a vehicle for this
bullshit. I think, I think I'd be Davis's
emergency contacts. So at least you guys, you guys
that's a little. Bit of it.
I get it for Sean all the fucking time.
It drives me nuts. No one knows how to get a hold
of Sean. And they're like, yeah, could
you ask Sean a question for me? Like no, Who are you?
I just, I love it. Pat wins a few million and then
says let the people wait these people, these fans that have
done donated hundreds of dollars just to have like this one
they're seeing everyone else draft and they can't even fire
off 1 pin I'm. Just saying maybe, maybe they
should go outside, crack a beer with their leg up, bottle opener
and. Live a little.
That's that's really what the the bottle opener was for Pat
bought it, bought him a 48 hour clock and.
Scottish after the bottle opener.
He's like I've made it. All right, love you guys.
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