Tonight on ship chasing, we fire our single entry bullet in the
NFC Silver Bullet contest. I'm going to be at the helm here
getting advice from the boys. What do we do?
We only get one shot at this. There's a $5000 individual
league prize and a $50,000 grand prize.
Let's do it. Pat Fryer helmos This is why
This is why I'm hot Anita hand job.
Fix your site, Jamar and also play Chase.
You can't handle the heat. It looks like we're finally fist
boys. You're right.
All right, all right. Ship chasing draft season.
We are off to the races. The past two NFC drafts, We've
done our best ball drafts tonight, fellas.
We are gonna be doing a managed league, though.
It's time to roll up our sleeves and get to work here.
Yeah, I'm excited. Single entry, managed league
tournament, the first time we've done that.
I know it's it's fun. Everyone always is asking for
unique contest structures. This one is definitely one of
the better structures out there as far as being able to realize
your edge. You know, being able to get a
big prize but not having to compete against hundreds of
thousands of entries. So I'm looking forward to this
one. Gretch, I know you've had this
one circled on your calendar for a while as well.
Yeah, it's a really cool format. I think the single entrance, I
mean one of the things about the main event, we love doing it,
but you have some guys that are really good at playing like a
portfolio in that structure. Obviously people have gotten a
lot more comfortable with portfolio drafting through best
Ball, but for a long time there have been people that have done
lots of main events, managed portfolios.
I think the, the, the Adp's and and like where people land in in
main events tends to be a little bit I think Wilder than than
even like what we see in best ball and stuff.
And so there's there's people that manage a lot of portfolios,
get a lot of values or try to get a lot of values because they
know they're, you know doing stuff over the course of a
portfolio, right. And they build a bunch of
different teams and and they're incredibly skilled at it as
well. They're also making calls.
I'm not trying to like, you know.
Like minimize that, but there it is definitely different when
you're doing like 10 main event teams or 20 versus people that
are doing 100 plus, right. And and managing this whole
portfolio, this is a a setup where everybody gets one shot
right. So you've got to go get your
guys. You're not playing against the
very best you know portfolio type drafters that I was
describing. I don't know I'm making that
sound worse than it is, or like more than it is, but.
You're not, you're not playing against those guys in every
single one of your leagues. You know, because it's a it's a
single entry. So it's kind of cool.
Yep. So we do have this, a $1200 buy
in our draft tonight is is full by the way, that's going to kick
off here in 10 minutes but wanted to cover some of the
settings. And I will say, if you do want
to draft with us in some contests, we are going to be
doing prime time drafts the next two Wednesdays at 8:00 PM.
That is their other high stakes tournament.
There's it looks like 3 spots left in our draft next
Wednesday. We're drafting with the Buckeye
Boomers. You guys might remember Josh and
Evan aka Essential, who have done streams with us before and
then we will be drafting with Davis.
Two weeks from tonight. So both of those two spots left
in the Davis draft. 3 spots left.
We got a link down below to the NFFC site If you want to message
me to confirm you're in the right draft.
Feel free to do it. But it's the 8:00 PM prime time
and those will be the next two Wednesday nights.
But. To kind of look at some of the
format that we're working with the night guys.
So we do have 20 rounds. We still got the third round
reversal, we got the six point passing TD Max entries in this
contest is going to be 252. Any other things you guys are
kind of thinking about specifically that might be
unique to this format? What?
What drafts that we get? We got the four and by the way
people asking we did set our our KDS for this.
So we we got the 104 for our draft tonight.
I like the four. The four is pretty good.
Yeah, it is. With third round reversal, a
little bit less appealing, right?
Like there's a little bit of a difference between what you
would get through a four and whatever 3:00, not that.
Much of a difference, I don't know.
The third round is like in the honest of the early 4th since
I'm. I'm still taking Bree, so the
early 4th, I mean, I mentioned the early 4th, so you know.
Yeah, I saw our guy, Ron Stewart, He's been doing a bunch
of NFFC drafts and he sent, I think he had a tweet yesterday
that I sent over to you guys with some of the different new
prices after the free agent signing.
So he had Ramondre went four O 5, Breece went five O 4 in this
slightly different format, but still a good.
Comp here Dalvin 703HA902 Moster 1209 Wilson 1304 gain well 1004
penny 1005 so you actually got a gain Well flippinning of penny
there and then Zeke went 14 oh. I actually did that in a best
ball draft. And then I was like, that was
stupid. That was what I tried.
Tried it out. It happened in a day, and I did
Tuesday night as well that I wrote up for stealing signal
subscribers and I was like. I wrote it up sort of the way
you did, where I was like I was surprised and excited because I
was already got penny on the on the other one, so I was, I was
pretty stooped. Yep.
Yeah, I think Penny can still go ahead.
He just has such, you know the the talent profile is so good,
but I mean I think game well is good.
So it's like I kind of want to be kind of taking game well
before he rises to the point, like if he is going to flip
Penny, I want to be in on him before that flipping.
I mean Sean, Sean had us take Kenneth Gain well today as our
fifth running back after taking 4 running backs through 8 rounds
and aggressively drafting Gain well.
So yeah, I I noticed Sean has well then it I think we took him
in like the 12th or. 13th OK, yeah, yeah, that feels right.
I've been trying to get him in the 12th or 13th. 13th is hard
to get sometimes now. Yeah.
You want me gotta do the 12th. I did the 11th when I did.
This, yeah, I did. And then I was like smashing him
too. It was like one of the things
where I like, didn't even. I was like ooh, gain.
Well, I gotta make sure I get him.
And then I took him. And then I was like, Penny was
there, you idiot. Guys listen though, to the ETR
pod with Jimmy Kemski breaking down.
The Eagles running back situation with Adam and Evan
did. You guys, no, I need.
I need to listen to that. Yeah, it's interesting.
Just all the gain. Well, love.
Because if you listen to that, you actually come away more
hyped about DeAndre Swift than than anyone.
The way he was talking about it. And he was talking about how?
A lot of the usage that people were getting excited about with
game, well it was because they were specifically running their
hurry up and you know their two-minute drill type stuff
which obviously is an issue for Swift right, if he's not playing
in that. But he still had said Swift
looks the best of those guys, the most explosive.
The guy he thinks is going to have the biggest impact was kind
of his read on it. So that's kind of the push pull.
Like, yeah, it might be a committee, but he did say like
Swift looks really good at camp. I do think that Swift has shown
over his entire career like a real inconsistency in terms of
success rate and stuff that I don't.
I don't think he's going to like cure and therefore there's
probably another back here getting work on early downs.
So I think there's enough like Swift might be the the right
answer in some ways. And could easily pay off his
ADP, but even if he does, I feel like he's going to leave room
for one of these other backs in the double digit rounds to to
have value. One of the themes of some of the
stuff I've been writing lately is that, I mean, I don't think
we should under react to this type of news.
But I do think every team's situations are different.
And I do think while there are examples like Isaiah, Pacheco
that come to mind, we're like, yeah, there was a lot of news in
August and all these things happened.
There are also a lot of examples where.
Not even necessarily, because the news was wrong in August.
Probably. Like, I just think the decision
wasn't made yet. Like these players play into
these roles in the season even. And Josh Jacobs comes to mind
and everyone talks about the the Hall of Fame game usage.
I'm not even really referring to that because I don't.
I mean like every coach can do things differently, like I just
said. But Jacobs played his two of us
three lowest snapshots of the year in weeks one and two.
Or two of the three lowest route chairs.
Maybe it was he wasn't getting the password right away to start
the year either. Brandon Boldin ran it like a
decent amount of routes and week one I think maybe a season high.
But Jacobs immediately consolidated the work by like
Week 3 or Week 4 by being better than those guys in season, which
does happen. And I think everything that
we've seen from the Eagles, to me, the way that I'm reading it
is like this is a situation where I want to bet on talent
and the players that I think can.
Win the jobs on the field, basically, and I I do think
they're all very good. That's the issue for me is that
I think they're all good, yeah. Yeah, but I think Penny is the
clearest profile, is the biggest back.
He's always been really good, both before and after contact
and he's been in, you know, pretty good running situations.
But now he moves to the behind the best offensive line with
Jalen Hurts there. Like, I feel like Penny's gonna
run so effectively that he's gonna get work.
I don't know how the Swift and game will stuff will will parse
but like. Penny's got to have a role in
that back to life. To your to your point on the
Jacobs thing like he's not there right now right they can't they
can't work out a contract situation You know it would have
helped if they picked up his fifth year option which they
didn't do right And so like that because they came in there like
we're not sure what this we're not sure we we don't know we
don't know with Josh Jacobs. So I I think that read of it's
right that they they didn't know until in season last year that
they were like yeah, this guy's, this guy's.
What we're looking for Yeah, like this take in the chat.
What if none of the Eagles is the RB you need.
I would be absolutely stunned. I think one of these guys if not
to are going to absolutely scorch their ADPI think we can
continue to kind of like split hairs on who's the best cost
adjusted bet. But we know how good this
rushing offense is. One thing Jimmy Kemski was
talking about on that pod, too, is how their screen game.
Is going to be lethal this year, talking about how athletic the
offensive line is and how when defenses have to respect Devonta
Smith and A.J. Brown like they're just going to
be able to dial up screen stuff. I mean, both Kenny gain well and
Swift can cook in the screen game too, so I I would be
stunned if we don't get league winners.
Especially when you're talking about.
I mean it. Maybe it manages a little bit
tricky and a little bit harder. For us, but for sure much.
There's there's there's going to be running back points that are
going to hit in best ball. And weak winners, too, man.
Like, that's the thing with these backs.
There's going to be big weeks from these running backs.
There's going to be touchdowns. There's going to be points in
this offense. We saw them put away games with
the running game last year. I think we can count on them to
do that Again. It's going to be difficult to
project, you know, weekly what the Eagles are going to do.
But I think in most games they're going to put up points.
So yeah, I would be kind of shocked.
I mean honestly, if if it isn't any of these backs like.
I guess it's because Jalen Hurts just goes nuclear in the fancy
playoffs, and maybe one of these guys helps you advance and then
it's kind of like Jacob, so they leave you cold in the playoffs
or something. But that's really the only
disaster scenario I can foresee for all of them.
Individually you can make cases for sure.
It does seem like ADP is moving toward these projections.
The different beat reporters have.
I've seen the different tweets that are like, oh, I would put
it this way, 1234. I'd put it this way, 1234.
And they're all different. Every time I see one, it's
different. And I think that's just, again,
reflective of the fact that, like, these guys are guessing on
something that's probably not decided yet.
They're and they're and they're they're do the best they can.
And we appreciate the fancy community, but the community is
reacting to those like, oh, game wells one on this chart.
Is there? I kind of think the community
should react to it, but just keep reacting.
You know what I mean? Like don't stop reacting cuz it
isn't decided and it will be decided at some point.
But like I think it's okay to kind of like flow with the wind
again because I think all these guys are good.
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, the other thing too about,
you know, it's, and This is why there's discounts on so many
ambiguous backfields because people want clarity.
So bad guys like you're looking at two of the most like injury
prone running backs in the league and DeAndre Swift or
Rashad Penny. Like things will clear up even
from a managed standpoint because I see a lot of like, oh,
I only want them in basketball or whatever.
No, no, I want these guys in managed leagues.
Like there is going to be volatility and chaos here and
you are going to get some very clean starts from these guys.
I think you're right about that, Yeah.
Speaking of clean starts, what's the What's the 104 thought?
Yeah, I mean you're you're probably we're talking copper or
tyree kill, right? That's sort of where I'm at with
it, yeah. Yeah.
And that is our choice we have here as the board goes.
Jefferson, Chase, McCaffrey, I'm good with either.
You guys got a lien? Yeah, yeah.
I'm I like Cup here too. I'm just, I'm going to go with
Cup. People forget.
Cooper Cup, come on down. Hopefully that handy holds up,
but I mean, we've talked through it like his ceiling, probably in
the Jefferson range, right? I think so, yeah.
Yes, for the people in the chat, no this is not tied in premium.
Yes, this is 6 point passing TDs.
It's also instead what is it, 25 yards for a point.
It's 20 yards for a point. So there's also a little boost
to the passing yardage as well. And the and the pocket
passengers do get a nice benefit from both the passing yardage
and the six point passing TVs. They can like I would in this
format, I would move up my homes.
I would move up Herbert, I would move up Borough.
I would, you know any of those types of of quarterbacks are
better in in this type of point, yeah.
The In the starting lineup requirements you got one
quarterback, 2 running backs, 3 wide receivers, one tight end,
one flex team kicker, team defense, and then ten bench
spots. So pretty, you know, similar to
our 34 round best ball drafts we did, but this is of course
managed. But.
And you can't lock us out on team kicker this draft, yeah?
Be aware of the the kicker Avalanche.
You know, I will probably be able to survive that tonight.
Man, Amara is the steam is real, boys.
Well, Amara had a leg injury today, didn't he?
That was. Did he really?
There was something, yeah, there's a little underdog blurb
that I saw and then get a chance to pick it up.
I don't know if I'm like. Naturally contrarian or
naturally optimistic, but my whole thing with these injuries
is I'm like the other way. Like I just pretend like none of
them are a big deal. Like Davis, like trailing Burks
is done for the year today. I'm like, I'm just like, oh,
he's gonna be fine. Like it.
He'll he'll be back and whatever like.
That one looked good. I thought he was gonna be done
for the year for a minute. And then I was like, oh, maybe
it's his hammy. Maybe it's a sprain.
How was it doing? I was like, coping real hard.
It was a sprain. Yeah, well, in the way you know
Davis gave Justin Ross's eulogy 2 days ago, the Justin Ross.
I got practice making plays today.
So just like we maybe just just wait.
For a they need to stop with the carted off stuff.
Like you're not carted off if you get in the front seat
because you have cramps. That's not being carted off.
Jordan Ross was. Carted off.
That's a real cart off. Some of the old, the veterans
that we have that have their former NFL players that are like
commenters now have. Tweeted about this where like at
camp it's different than being carred off in the game where in
the game like they if you can walk you, you kind of need to
walk off the field so the game can continue to get carred off.
It's probably serious in camp. It's like this is just an
effective way to get like the training room is way across and
like and we have to like move you around and we have no reason
to not just drive the cart up and pick you up and drive you
off. And so the whole cart off thing
is like it's not even real. It's like.
It's far away, by the way. It's fucking August.
It's hot. It's.
Hot out? No one wants to have to walk a
long way. And if you had give it a tweak.
They don't want you to. They don't want.
Yeah. Why would they make you walk at
all? You're you're slightly injured.
You might be. You might be literally thirsty.
They've got like. 75 parts and all these equipment managers
sitting around like they got to get make their money.
So I'm gonna go pick someone up, like, yeah, we need to drive
somebody. Do not say cart it off if Justin
Ross has got like, a fucking side cramp, please.
We we need, and you know these days too, we need to like
specify what kind of cart this is.
It might be the drink cart. You know, like it just it this
might be just like one of those little golf carts.
This isn't necessarily like we're rushing you to the
hospital kind of cart. Yeah, I mean.
Red Bull Justin Ross might have been getting his cart and
serving water ice and we got to hear how the carts out for
Justin Ross. We got the the wide receivers
flying here in the second round. We see a J.
Brown, Barkley comes off, then Garrett Wilson, then Jalen
Waddell, then Chubb, Devante Adams.
I'm on the clock here in three picks.
Curious about where Pollard might settle now that Zeke
finally landed in new in New England, and if that was really
holding him down. A little.
Interesting to see him 10 here. That's the highest I've seen are
before. He might, I think.
He might think. He was being held down.
Yeah. I think he I think he heads up
to the one two, turn I. There's no real difference
between him and Chubb, except that I like Pollard better.
The difference is that I take Pollard.
So a lava goes. I mean it's it's Devonta Smith T
Higgins. Otherwise you're taking a plunge
into the running backs which. Is tough.
Considering the kind of value that's falling right now, I I
think I leaned Devonta. I actually have Higgins ahead of
Devonta at this point, but I like, I like both, yeah.
I would go Devonta personally. All right.
Let's do we got two Devonta the IT is it is crazy to how much
even with you know I'm comparing it to I guess this is a pretty
standard like this if this look like an underdog you know
basketball board like that wouldn't shock you.
You know, this is actually pretty, I guess, Eckler going
ahead of Hill, but everything else you get some Pollard steam
there. Carol in the chat says Tyreek at
60. Absolute still St.
Brown at 9. Getting the the wolves there, I
don't know. Yeah, I guess like St.
Brown. I mean grudge.
Don't you have St. Brown ahead of like Diggs and
and A J. Brown there too.
I do, yeah, I am. I haven't ranked wide receiver,
5I haven't ranked there which, and I have Garrett. 6 And I
mean, but I've as I've written about that and I and I haven't,
I just released my running back tiers, like right up where I
write about each of the tiers. I'll write more about the wide
receivers when I get to that. But yeah, the running backs are
up today. As I write through that tier,
I'm basically going to say that that's that it's it's all kind
of very close to me. I just want to be prioritizing
those guys when I really think about it.
So we see Mark Andrews, first tight end off the board to the
Saint Brown, Jalen Waddell drafter also have the three
elite quarterbacks off the board, Mahomes Hertz and Josh
Allen Gibbs. And we are fastly approaching
our our third round pick. We have hit the third round
reversal element. So the CD Lamb, a J.
Brown drafter grab Jalen Hertz at the start of the third, and
then the Diggs Barkley drafter stacked it up with Josh Allen.
So what are we? Looking at here, what's the top
of the ADP? Yeah.
So with my ranks over here as well.
Go ahead, Pete. Yeah.
No, no, I was just like purely I'm in the NFC applet here, but
you got dodgy Harris, Josh Jacobs, Joe Burrow, Ramondre and
then you got like Debo, ETN Breese Hall.
So wide receiver Debo comes off the board.
So I think Keenan is probably our is the collective best wide
receiver unless you want to dip into the running back picks I.
Think you certainly could. Yeah, I have Keenan, but then
you then you also have, I mean I still think Ramondre is, is fine
in this range, but like you go to ETN even and then try to get
Ramondre in the rap. Like, yeah, cuz Ramondre went
405 and an NFC draft yesterday, which which makes me kind of
want to push it a little bit. Where are you guys out on
Jacobs? You're down further down on him.
But if so, if we like multiple backs, what if we took Keenan
and then tried to? That's mine.
Just try to get one of the backs, Yeah, Yeah, I like
Keenan. I'm gonna do that.
And then yeah, cuz I think I'm still Ram Andre over Jacobs.
I still am, too, but I wrote about him today.
Pat was like, I've been back and forth on Jacobs and I don't
really know where I'm gonna wind up leaving at any point,
basically. Yeah, I need to do.
The legendary running back article which I'm hoping to have
out next week, So I feel like I'll have my thoughts
crystallized on those guys. A little bit more reminders in
kind of the just like the the, the spreadsheet that I have on
it, reminders never actually popped that much.
So I'm kind of, I'm kind of curious to dive into it, yeah.
That'll be good. I'm excited.
Yeah, the the Ramadre dream dies.
He goes to the Jonathan Taylor and Chase drafter at the end of
the third. The team out of the one hole is
pissing yellow with us. Justin Jefferson, T Higgins,
Jerry Judy, Our start through three Cooper Cup, Devonta Smith,
Keenan Allen and then Travis ETN comes off the board.
So maybe not as many running back discounts as there were
yesterday on NFC. But Jacob still sits there.
Yep. And Breese, Jacobs and Breese
still sit there. You're kind of in this tight end
dead zone after Andrews comes off the board.
I've got kind of receiver tier as well.
So Lamar Jackson, right, is is available on the board still as
well. Or Borough because of the the
that's why Herbert one so high. The the passing stats being a
little bit different, you could argue maybe borough in this
format. I think it's those guys or it's
Bruce or Jacobs. That's sort of where I see, Yep.
What do you guys think? I agree with you.
I I kind of want to do Lamar. But if if someone wants to pound
the table for Jacobs, I'm not going to put up a fight.
I mean, Jacobs is not who I would pound the table for.
What do you think, Gretch? Yeah, I mean, I think Lamar can
play. I I think I would take burl over
Lamar in this format, really. Yeah, kind of stings if you
didn't go Higgins. If we're going to do that
though, and and we do have the backdoor stack stuff still.
Available Lamar. Lamar is still a good, a good
play. Yeah, I'm not.
Yeah, I would. I would rather do Lamar than
Burrow if. You're and I still actually do
have Lamar projected meaningfully higher in six point
per TD on my projections. It doesn't change for passing
yards, but yeah, I think that's good.
I want to check my projections for that and I I thought Burrow
might have moved up closer to him and in that format he
doesn't in my projections which. I mean that's not the end all be
all. But if Jackson's offense passes
more this year which is the talk and that's how I projected it
like he looks he looks fine in this format.
Yeah we take we take Jackson there so we go Cooper Cup
Devonta Smith. Keenan Allen Lamar Jackson.
I do think you you see how much the quarterbacks do get pushed
up here the the Herbert pick going even ahead of Jackson
there, which I think is defensible.
But I I do really like getting Jackson in this spot here.
But chef's asking Who did Pat actually want?
We'll get to that. We'll get to that later.
Is there any doubt I mean? I don't know why it's confusing,
but yeah. Lamar is someone that I take a
ton of, and I would. I'm taking him generally ahead
of Greece Hall. So I totally fine with Lamar.
But if we were gonna, it gets to the point where, like, once
Jacobs falls enough to where I can just justify taking Greece,
I just rather take Greece. Because I feel like the ceiling
is just so much higher on Brees Hall.
Like, I really do feel that way even.
But just stop talking about guys that are still on the board.
How many is this your first string?
Some call. Way back like is this the 1st?
I mean, OK but like that's literally went in the he went in
the in the mid 5th in the draft. Yeah, we're in the late 5th I.
As soon as we passed on, it was over.
We're in the fourth round, Pat. He went in the mid fifth.
He went like 2 pixel. He would have 506 in the draft.
There's no way Brees Hall was getting late 5th.
Come on. We we had the decision with him
there and if we didn't take him, he wasn't coming back.
Rule #1 of streaming high stakes draft, You don't talk about
players you want that are still on the board.
Rule number one, yeah. Well, he was not coming back.
We knew that. I will say Javante Williams
going ahead of Breese Hall. Now that that's the bull is
wild, yeah. I also think Justin Herbert
going where he did even in this format was a big, a big one.
There aren't. We're getting the swings that
you get in these single entry formats that are.
I think make the format so much fun.
This has been a fun draft so far.
Yeah and we talked about a lower price point too, only 1200 than
you know than the highest of the highest stakes stuff that some
people are out on. So if you want like an
onboarding ramp for higher stakes formats like a $1200
single entry tournament is a great place to start.
I would. I would argue I do.
This must have been just like a flash sale last night.
It was everyone just like drunk on Delvin Cook last night, Sean
says. He got Breeze at 509 in a main
event and then just. Everyone came back.
There are people. There are some of the high
stakes grinders. Some of the people that are not
necessarily in our circle are celebrating this fall that they,
you know, they have been sort of calling him a fade and are.
Seeing his ultimate price be in the 5-6 range, I'm seeing tweets
like that, which I mean, if there's people talking about
that, you can get in a room with people who feel that way and
want to keep pushing him and then, you know it's possible
like it. I also think that what I
predicted on Liam's stream, we we did like a it's like 2 1/2
hours stream went on forever but Cliff notes, I predicted that he
would fall the furthest in like the next 48 hours that there
would be kind of that and the reason for that right is that
there's. Like honestly, how I end up
playing playing It was that I only did a couple drafts.
Like I I basically sat out drafts for like about 24 hours
and then came in and did some later last night, other than
some slow drafts that I had going.
But you know, I I was like, I don't even, I don't even want to
try to push him to the fifth because I won't.
I know I won't do it. So let me see if his ADP like
can actually fall a little bit and then I'll try to come in at
the end and and see if I can like scoop him, you know, when
when he's like a little further down the list.
If that makes sense. But I was I was saying like, you
know, you've got that effect like people like me or maybe
sitting out drafts, you've got people like me also trying to
see how low he falls and so no one's coming up to save him.
So it's all just people who don't really want to take him
trying to get a super, super cheap price.
And the people who do want to take him are also trying to push
it and get a super cheap price. But I think that effect is going
to end relatively soon. Where?
Like. He should, because he should be
still an early fourth round. Pick well and then once you
anchor to a new price, people know what the price is.
So all the people that you just described that are pushing to
see how far they fall, now they know where the price is.
They like him like yourself. They're going to take him ahead
of that and then it. Creep back up.
And then he'll actually come back up a little bit.
Yeah. And I think because, you know,
I'm also seeing stuff like, oh, you know, an underdog who's
going at like the 501, that type of thing.
That's like, oh man, like what a value.
Well, it is a value. But I don't think he settles
there for that reason, because enough people think that's a
value. Joe Burrow still chilling.
This is wild in in fields. I mean, I I dig fields, but in
this format I don't think you can take Fields over Burrow
personally. We'll see if the one hole gets
Burrow coming all the way back to complete the Higgins stack
there as well. I think two goes off the board
here. So we are.
People are freaking out about Burrows injury.
He's already been running at camp.
Levitan has a great tweet on it. Like he's he's fine and it's 30
days from week one. He's already said he's fine.
Like Jamar Chase said, oh, I don't want him to to play, you
know, I don't want him to push it or whatever, but like, dude,
he's gonna play week one. He's gonna be fine.
So in this way the market interprets these injuries.
Like Aman, Rossi, Brown, I just looked it up, has a low grade
ankle sprain. It looks like it's not supposed
to affect him week one, but like he's actually like slightly hurt
now and no one. So we're on the clock.
I had Mclaurin starred he there is a little bit of a wide
receiver tear gap here. You do have like Godwin would
probably be the next guy or TJ Hawkinson is is floating around.
As well, I want to throw out James Cook, who is who's risen
really far in a lot of drafts. I've seen him go in this range.
I've seen him go ahead of Walker.
I think he's a what about Dobbins?
Well, yeah, I mean. Both would take Dobbins over
Cook. Yeah, both of those feel like
unnecessary reaches here, OK? Yeah, yeah, the guys behind us
probably need. Receive What other wide
receivers are there? It's it's Godwin, Christian,
Kirk Pittman, Lockett, Evans, Marquis Brown, Pickens, Godwin
or Hawkinson. I think look like the best picks
to me. I like those.
Yeah, I'll be fine with Hawk or Godwin.
Let's, let's. Let's go.
Let's go God. I think Godwin's a bad pick.
I do. Well, like you got, you got to
speak up quicker than that with one second left.
Yeah, we we have this thing every time he comes up that's
that like just doesn't want to take him.
I don't I don't understand why the case is strapped and
receiver. Yeah, I don't.
I don't really get the case, to be honest.
He's I'm not sure he's the best wide receiver on his own team.
And part of the case for him is that you have to throw out last
year where he wasn't good and his quarterback sucks.
Like I don't. I just don't really.
See it like it's not. Enough people, like everyone I
know loves Godwin, so I take him.
So, like, the frustration you're hearing is that I am actually
above market on this guy I don't like because everyone tells me
I'm wrong. And I was like, I guess you guys
are probably fucking right. So I'm going to draft him.
But I don't like it. I don't really get it.
Pete, I didn't want to say jsn cuz you didn't.
Did you think he might fall a little bit?
Yeah, the but I guess, I guess if you guys were wanting running
back then we should have just gotten.
I was thinking we could push some of those running backs to
the 7th and 8th though. Yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
So at the top of the queue right now, tight ends, you got Kittles
at the top. Wide receiver Kirk Pittman,
Evans, Marquis Brown Pickens, Dotson, running backs.
That's really for Dotson, yeah, Greg told us.
Aaron Jones, Joe Mixon, Dalvin Cook, Sanders, Cam Acres.
By the queue, Dotson comes off the.
People were going to go get their guys in this format.
They're doing it. He was right.
So I did move and I wrote about him today and looked up some ADP
stuff and also got a comment on a DP.
That because I referenced like ESPN's AVP, how in some of these
home leagues I'm I'm waiting until this pick is made before
it that James Cook is a lot cheaper in those prices.
And somebody sent me some data on ESPN that even lately in ESPN
drafts, he's going like RV20. He's flying up.
He's going way higher in FFPC lately than he was early.
Also NFC. I've moved him ahead of Dobbins
in my rankings. I think there's a strong case
for that. I'm good with it.
I mean, he's not coming back, I'll tell you that much.
Yeah. I'm good with.
I mean it's the type of swing you want is your RB one, it
feels expensive to me I guess. Are there any other wide
receivers that so? The receivers by ADP Pittman,
Mike Evans, Marquis Brown, George Pickens, Burks, Tony,
Gabe Davis, Addison. I'd be fine with with Cook if
you want. If you guys won't do that.
I mean, it's it's the right type of pick.
I think it's a it's a swing for the fences, yeah.
I, like Scott had agree he's in a great.
Offense, all of our our receivers so far we haven't made
a lot. Like if we went JSN there maybe
I would feel a little more like, Oh yeah, we want to keep getting
a lot of receiver depth. But we haven't really made these
types of swings where I mean our our first four receivers are all
pretty stable. I mean they they can bust, they
can get hurt obviously. Like I guess Keenan and Cup have
injury histories and Godwin, but it just to me like our receiver
build right now feels like it's OK to go away from receiver, if
that makes sense. We we had the, we had the right
to do it for sure yeah. I mean, I wanted to go hawk last
round, so that's that's also detour, Yeah, yeah, kids that.
Was been fun. I kind of wish we did that.
Yeah, I I thought we were going to be able to get two of those
guys there. But when you guys floated
running back with that, I should have just said let's grab JSN
now and then we could grab a running back coming back.
So that was miscommunication. The our team here through six
rounds, Cooper Cup, Devonta Smith, Keenan Allen, Lamar
Jackson, Chris Godwin, James Cook, 5 tight ends off the board
now Kelsey Andrews, Waller Hawkinson and Kittle.
The other thing too, I think it is a distinction from obviously
not tight end premium, but it's also not you could start 4
running backs, 4 tight ends for wide receiver formatted.
It's more similar to underdog where you can start up to four
wide receivers, 3 running backs, 2 tight ends because it's just
the flex, but start three wide receivers, so the wide receiver
depth is even more important in this format.
Relative to other, just seeing your your JSN private jet.
Damn, yeah, I just. I saw after JSN went off, it's
like Oh no. Well, OK.
So I'm gone when I do want. I do want to, while we have a
moment, go back to that because you said we have to throw it as
year last year, but like with all the guys that are coming off
Acls the year later. People are like, yeah, it's
their first year off ACL, they're better their second year
and usually like the ones that miss a little bit of time in
season, it makes more sense. But Godwin was like this time
last year. I know I've made this case
before but was not expected to play week one necessarily
because it was such a quick turn around.
He did, and I think he clearly did, because Tom.
Brady was like his quarterback and in his last season and like,
you're going after it and you're not going to just like sit out
and get 100% healthy. I think it's pretty clear he
played the first part of this season.
While like still rehabbing. And so my argument is like, this
guy's so good that he's his numbers weren't even that much
worse than last year. You don't think you have to like
fully throw it out. It was down, like his yard's
prop run was down and everything, but he still drew a
lot of volume lower. A dot like, not nothing like
amazing, but for a guy who was playing like probably before he
was fully rehabbed and should have been out there.
To be that effective. And then the other argument I'd
make is just like prior to last year, prior to the ACL tear, we
used to take this guy in the second round like him and Evans
and some of that was you know offensive volume related.
But when he was a little bit younger, he was even a dynasty
like 1-2 turn guy. I remember him and DJ Moore
back-to-back at the 1-2 turn and dynasty at one point.
Like we've always known him to be a very.
Good. He had really good production at
a higher A dot earlier in his career.
Lately, he's been a lower A dot guy.
Like, I mean, there's a lot of Longview stuff that's like Chris
Godwin's a really good wide receiver that like probably
shouldn't be in the fifth round at age 27 now that he's two
years off in ACL, like just broadly.
I don't, I don't know. I mean I I it just feels a
little bit like a name value thing to me.
Like it's he's Chris, it's he's Chris Godwin and I he hasn't
been that good if you look at like his efficiency numbers.
Going back to 2021.89 yards per out, run 1.97 down to 1.73.
Last year his eight out was at 7.62 years ago, dropped even
further to 5.7. Maybe that was the ACL, an open
score. He's had four straight Four
Seasons in a row after two strong seasons to start his
career. I'm just like, I don't know, I
don't know. Not that he's bad, but like,
he's just, I'm not sure he's that good.
And then he's losing Brady. The volume could be there but it
maybe maybe they go Panthers with it.
You know they just run the ball and try to be kind of like we're
going to be competitive but probably lose and that's OK.
And so I'm not even sure we're going to get like the the ton
of. We're counting on that at this
point, right. We're counting on that if you're
taking. He said Four straight bad years
and open score Bad or just like not good bad, yeah.
Yeah, he he was at. I don't know about that stat,
man. Like I'm I'm, I'm intrigued.
But like. From what I've looked at, it's
pretty, it's pretty helpful, but you know, it's so he was at 6165
and then four straight years below 50, last year was his
career low? You know, I think it's, you
know, it's somewhat descriptive, right?
Like Mike Williams never gets open.
But, like, that doesn't necessarily mean we have to
worry about Mike Williams because we kind of know what
type of duty is. But I do worry about when I see
it with Chris Godwin, because it's it's not really.
He's not like a big bodied downfield playmaker.
He's supposed to get open, yeah. When I say I don't know about
stat, I I like inclined to to believe it.
And I I do like the idea of it. I'm just sort of like not 100%.
Yeah, that's fair. That's new.
Research on it, right? Yeah.
No. How how much data do we have
there with that? Going back to 2017, they've done
it alright, I'm on the clock. I would like to run to the
podium and select Kyle fucking Pits.
Let's go, alright. That's easy.
That's great. I love that we didn't take Hawk
now. Wow.
God, play the hits. I don't think that was gonna
happen. But your daughter throws ahead
of him, yeah. Here's the other thing about
about Godwin, because look, this is Tampa Bay, OK?
This is we got it. We got to do the narratives in
Tampa Bay, right? Angry Tom and all that.
So in Tampa Bay this season's going to be a disaster.
Who are they going to be feeding the ball to at the end of the
season? Mike Evans.
They got to get him that 1000 yards.
They got to get Mike Evan 1000 yards or or what's the point of
even playing football in Tampa Bay in 2023 if you can't get
Mike Evan 1000 yards? I I'm like legit only half
kidding here because I do think like if he's anywhere near 1000
yards. As the season winds down, that's
who's getting scheme targets, not Chris Godwin.
And Week 17 is all that matters, guys.
All right, our team threw 7 rounds.
Cooper Cup. Devonta Smith.
Keenan Allen. Lamar Jackson.
Chris Godwin. James Cook, Kyle Pitts.
Some of the most recent picks come off the board.
You see Michael Thomas. Brandon Cooks mentioned, Dallas
Goddard, Cam Acres. Joe mixing goes right after us.
Then Marquis Brown a little slide to him.
Team 2 putting together a nice team.
Jamar Chase. Jonathan Taylor.
Andre Stephenson. Justin Herbert.
JSN Dotson. Marquis Brown.
Quinton Johnston goes. I was eyeing him, hoping he
would come back around the rap. Dalvin Cook yet to be drafted.
Miles Sanders, yet to be drafted.
Damien Pierce still on the board.
DeAndre Swift still on the board?
They mean Pierce usually goes by this point, doesn't he?
Yeah. Miles Sanders Interesting.
OK, I pulled up Godwin's reception perception in 2021.
Harmon called him a painfully underrated route runner and
talked about him being one of the premier big slot receivers.
So that's another route running data point that runs counter.
To the open score, yeah, it was good.
Yeah, he was good. And perception.
Perception. So that's nice to see.
Yeah. The Let's see here.
So yeah, that you can definitely see drafters catching up here on
wide receiver, especially ones like teammate who started Kelsey
Chubb Gibbs and then had Fields in the 5th.
They take Michael Thomas, their Bateman comes off the board.
I thought we were going to be able to get Bateman here coming
back with our Lamar. So Bateman and Flowers are now
gone. You know, two, we could do the
the running back stuff here as far as like, Sanders Pierce.
The the other wide receivers you know, you got like Burks and and
Sutton, both of which I doubt are going to come back either.
I mean Burke. Has that LCL.
He should fall like he, yeah. I mean this is probably given
with the wide receivers. This is a wide receiver heavy
draft. He's the last one of that whole
kind of group. The only like in my ranks it
goes into Sky more and and like Romeo Dobbs after this so.
I'm I'm also fine with Pierce. Pierce is a really nice value
this late, right? I kind of think I like him, but
like he probably belongs He's. He's the arbitrage Josh Jacobs
that we passed. Man, they might just they might
be like somewhat efficient running the bowl.
Before you click that structurally, Are you sure you
don't want to grab Burke's as a bench and then like, let him get
healthy like. I'm completely fine with with
Burke's here. It sounds like it's just going
to be a. Couple weeks I honestly would
take peers. So the guy's got a sprained knee
and we're getting a big value on a on a I think he has legitimate
upside. He's a second year player.
I know it's a little dead zoney, but.
All right, I grabbed. Peers today and decided that he
has to be included. I moved him into a higher tier
and decided he had to be included with the dead zone back
profiles that you can take even though I had him originally
ranked lower. Cuz like I mean the biggest
things holding him back are that like the high value touch
profile or that did last year. Cuz he was an efficient runner
with a high value touch profile which could shift and the team
sucked and the scoring potential and the Texans could be low key
decent. Like both of those things could
improve. And if he's actually somewhat
efficient like he's, why is he that much different than some of
the other? Dead zone backs we've seen break
out. I mean, it's not that crazy,
especially in the Yeah, who's more talented, Naji Harris or
Damien Pierce? Andrea Swift popped up.
And I mean, I think we have more evidence that Naji Harris isn't
going to be really efficient, right?
Damien Pierce could be Swift, is the other one that I do have
ranked in this like targetable dead zoning range.
And maybe I have him one spot ahead of Pierce.
Maybe. What if they can him out of
Pierce? But it's it's like really close
I think. Running backs.
You know, we kicked off a run here.
Miles Sanders, DeAndre Swift, James Connor, Wow and Pacheco.
And who else was in there? Dalvin Cook all come off the
board right after us. My thing with a guy like Pierce
is that like a guy like Sanders, right?
Sanders could would have to fall to the 9th or 10th before I
would never really be interested because he's like banged up.
I'm not sure he's the best running back on his team.
I don't think he's very good. Pierce, I'm always like a little
bit like, all right. I got a cheap pier share.
That's fun because I don't know if he.
I think he's pretty good at some stuff.
I think he's is very elusive. He was awesome at that in
college. He just didn't give him any
touches. And it was like, is a team going
to feel comfortable giving this guy a workhorse role after he's
barely used in college And they were.
So that's cool. And then it's like, well, he's
not probably gonna catch that many passes.
But Devin Singletary isn't even the third down back, it looks
like. It looks like he's an early
down, like handcuff type. And they might play like some
total nothing on 3rd down so. The fact that Singletary started
and played quite a bit in the preseason game as a veteran,
like I thought he would get the you would kind of expect him to
get, even though he's on a new team and everything and I get
it. But like, he kind of expects him
to get the veteran deference a little bit and he didn't like,
kind of says that. But Pierce, a second year
player, did not play, did not suit up, kind of says that.
Like, it's that workhorse thing. And yeah, they might just ride
it. Yeah.
And I mean yeah like he's he
looks like I think he's better than Alexander Madison.
Like I feel pretty confident about that and like the roles
might be Madison will get more receiving work but like you know
and he's in a better offense and stuff.
But like I don't know. I mean, I want to bet on talent,
even if they're. On about Yeah, no.
And Piers is probably more entrenched, like everything
you're saying about Madison Fair and his defense, but also.
Against him, if he's inefficient and Ty Chandler is like as good
as he was in the first preseason game, the rest of the preseason
and into the season, he could steal work in a way that I doubt
Pierce is gonna give up work to Devin Singletary.
You know, like, are they really gonna do that?
They're probably just gonna keep playing their young guy, you
know? Yeah, yeah.
And I think he's good. Like, I don't know, he's
elusive. After the the running back run,
Team 10 stopped it with Sky Moore.
Everyone in the chat who said Burks would fall.
Are you guys first timers here? Trailing Burks does go to Team
12 as well as a chain then A J Dillon, and wide receivers have
been sufficiently wiped out by this point.
Yeah, it's it's tight I. Don't hate the spot we're in but
it's it's it's a we've built. We've drafted our starting
lineup type of a build right. Like it's.
Yeah, yeah. Well, the the room never let us
off the hook. The best pick here in the 9th is
almost for sure. Going to be a running back here
for us. Yeah, some of the guys at the
top of the queue, you got both commanders backs, Jamal
Williams, Charbonnay P Ryan and Penny.
All available here at wide receiver.
You're looking at Cadarius Tony Juju, Jacobi, Lazard, Dobbs
tight end. Friarmuth and Nijoku are still
around quarterbacks. We're down to the Dak, Kirk,
Daniel Jones tier. Will you guys please take Tony
so I don't have to know. Sorry you were forced to take
Cadarius. Tony.
Tony I think would make sense for this team in the 9th, no?
So upside swing and wide receiver.
He already won, so I don't have no he already.
Yeah, we don't have. We don't have to.
I mean, look. Ourselves talking about this.
Yeah. All right.
I I I don't know. I always kind of like when I
like hard fade a player and then they fall 3 rounds and I
actually think they're a good pick and now I'm the gross one.
I do, I do always enjoy. That's where I'm out with
carries. Tony we're now like everyone
thinks I'm crazy for wanting to draft him at like a literally a
2 1/2 round discount when he might miss like one game.
Thank you for someone. Yeah, taking a.
Doubt he's also missing the whole offseason and other guys
are solidifying. Like, yeah, no, he's definitely
riskier. But yeah, he was always very
risky and people just like, didn't care.
And now people do care. Maybe they don't care enough,
but they care at least. Some which I like Pete is up
here. Yeah, I mean I I do think it's
it's either taking, I mean there's Gibson comes off the
board, there still are some interesting running backs.
So Brian Robinson and Charbonnay would be the two that stand out
to me. I mean, the Pierce pick I feel
like gives us license to take Charbonnay.
Yeah, why don't we, why don't we do Charbonnay and then see what
comes back in the 10th? So are we.
We go Cub, Devonta Smith, Keenan, Lamar Jackson.
God When? James Cook, Kyle Pitts, Damien
Pierce, Zach Charbonnay there. Pat on the Tony thing, my
concern becomes. What they did in the Super Bowl
where it was healthy and they still only played him a couple
snaps like because of missing the whole camp and everything.
Like is the first part of the year gonna be him getting
healthy but being super rotational and only running like
a 30% Snapshare and having the design touches?
Yes, What it feels like, right that that's what I would expect,
yeah. Yeah.
And it's almost like it might never even increase to 75
percent, 100%, Yeah. Probably will never, but it's
like the thing about it in this. No, it might never.
It probably, probably will never.
I would say it. League like how do you take it?
Cuz if he ever did, you're lock buttoning image, you're lined up
the next week, you're lock buttoning If you ever you would
know when to start. I mean obviously there could be
seasons where you never know when to start him cuz he was a
terrible pick. But the upside case is like is
real. Like he's a very talented player
at certain things. If he could get his shit
together a little bit, he could be an awesome fancy receiver.
What we think? He is, but we don't even have
that many routes and he wasn't as good last year.
It's true. You're like you're right I
think. He's good.
But you're right. Yes, you are right.
He's a super low floor play. But that's why I was like, what
are we doing when he's in the sixth round?
Like what are we doing? He's a terrible pick.
Like, yes, I get the upside, but this is a terrible price on a
player and I would like to have some because he's so he has so
much upside, but please stop taking him this side.
And then people did. So I No, no, I take them.
Brian Robinson and Dobbs both go two guys that I had put in the
queue. We are on the clock.
P Ryan looks good to me. Unless someone has like a wide
receiver reach you're you're Jalen warn over.
P Ryan. Pat, you're muted by the way,
bud. I was saying Warren as well,
because. You guys are both Warren over P
Ryan. Well, we need late production
more than early, right? Exactly.
P Ryan serves a purpose. See.
And I guess I'm fine. I I'm fine with Warren.
I'm I don't feel strongly enough.
But I think people are underselling P Ryan's full.
Season, yeah. Yeah, yeah, like one.
I think that both him and Jovante could coexist and I also
think there are just scenarios where he has a pretty big role
for the full season. I think from the best ball
perspective I agreed but in managed he certainly would
continue to have contingent value and you could be a spot
start kind of guy but he's at the upside such as it is, is
really early season is that like Jovantes gets slow played more
than we think and you can plug him in.
I think you can play it both ways though.
You could say, you know, Jovante comes back, gets reinjured,
because, yeah. And so like it's the same kind
of like for Jalen Warren to have that clean clear runway like P
runs probably going to get it at the beginning no matter what.
And then has similar contingent value that Warren offers as well
and similar standalone value. Yeah, I agree.
But it's I think, that the high end outcomes weekly without
injury are tilted to the front side of the season for P Ryan
into the backside of the season for Warren.
In this format, the backside isn't as quite as important as
it is in a in a different and like I completely agree for, you
know, basketball mania and all that, but.
It is like I saw some funny, I saw some funny comments or or
some kind of some comments questioning the Warner PRN and
stuff and I was I was scrolling up through the chat like reading
some, checking the chat and chat in a while.
I got up to this pen digging comment like 3-4 minutes ago, so
it's a ways up there, but it's Tony doesn't even exist.
Stop wasting your breath. Yeah, exactly.
He's not a real thing. Why are we talking about him?
He's not even real. I was laughing too because we
are using the obscured board for, you know, the generic teams
and yet when you make a pick it does flash the the name of the
owner. So shout out to Shelly and it's
Sousa and everyone else in this draft.
It took me a second. I was like it says overset there
every time drafted by yeah you can pretty you got any kind of
memory at all you can figure out who to do or even if you write
it down I mean. So we do.
We got Cooper Cub, Devonta Smith, Keenan Allen and Chris
Godwin at wide receiver, only four wide receivers, Lamar and
Kyle Pitts, holding it down on the onesies and then rounding
out a nice running backroom James Cook, Damien Pierce, Zach
Charbonnay and Jalen Warren here through 10 rounds at the halfway
mark. For the ship chasers, got a
bunch of you guys watching tonight.
We are going to be drafting basically every Wednesday and
Thursday until the start of the season.
Tomorrow we're doing FFPC main Event draft with Sean Siegel.
Next week we're going to be doing an NFC prime time and I
believe the Thursday draft next week is a crack rock FFPC draft.
I do have the schedule in the show notes.
It's also pinned on our Twitter and then we'll of course be out
in Vegas. For drafts leading up to opening
weekend, we'll be there for the Thursday night watch parties and
then we will be having our ship chasing party over at the park.
MGM, thanks to our friends at the NFC, they got us a space
over there. There will be beers.
They'll be pizza provided by Paris Pat here.
It's going to be a grand old time if you guys are out in
Vegas. Is Silva in this draft?
Juan Johnson in the tenth round. Really.
Gone after What's the hotel?
That where you They've got the fake little scene of Paris, the
the casino. The the Paris hotel, Is that
what it's called? Yeah.
No, it's like, is it OK, well. Paris, Las Vegas or something,
right? Oh no, You might be thinking of
the Venetian. Is that what you're thinking?
That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking of the Venetian.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. But that's Venice, not Paris.
Those are. They're very, I thought They.
I thought there's like a scene. I thought the Eiffel Towers
painted it. No.
Yeah. Is that true, Pat?
You're having Sicilian pizza. I cannot wait for these pizzas
like the, the, the, the pizzas have been built up very very
big. Josh sent us $5 thanking us for
giving him P Ryan to cover his early season.
Breece Hall share there. You're welcome, Josh.
That's got to be one of the most heavily paired duos in the
entire like, and almost anything, right?
Like I was gonna, that's what. I mean, you didn't have to force
yourself to take Jamal Williams too.
You already got P Rod. You didn't even burn that pic.
Yeah, well, I'll send you the $5 back after drafted.
Jamal Williams Lord, thanks for taking Jamal Williams.
Here's $5 back. Do people do Dal and cook and
javante now? Cuz that'd be kind of a fun way
to to go the other direction on it.
All right. We are in the part where where.
This is where we have to start getting crazy.
I was hoping RR Dobbs would fall around that 910 turn he went.
He was kind of the last one for me.
That was interesting. We got to figure out receivers.
Yeah, we do. Yeah, I would.
Yeah. So let the yeah, I see say it.
I see two guys. Here it is.
It is definitely a shift as far as our managed league targets
here. Rashi Rice was one of the guys I
was looking at, he. I just put a guy in chat that I
I'm pretty sure Pat. Yep, that that's the guy I have
in the queue right now. Yep, yeah, let's see.
I've cooled in best ball but I think there's he's a good fit
for this situation. Yeah, I think he's a good fit
for the situation too, because we also have.
Yes, yes. Yep.
So we'll see what Team Five does here.
They also only have four wide receivers.
Juju the pick before Rashi Rice, say Jones before him, Lazard,
Adam Phelan was the running. Or the wide receiver who came
off the board after Dobbs McKinnon go.
So we were all earmarking Nico Collins there.
I'm going to select Nico. Yeah, I already have the bet
with Damien Pierce on Houston being at least functional.
Yes, I would say that. I'm not expecting that.
I thought that Stroud struggled with pressure in his first
preseason game, which is the real concern if you're betting
into Houston a lot that he didn't have.
He had like, really good pocket time and.
Their offensive line in Ohio State was really good and all
those things. And so think about Rookie It's
the game's already speeding up for him, but he is also going
from having, you know, the best offensive line in college
football and all day to throw, and then suddenly and the best
wide receivers like better wide receivers than most Centerville
quarterbacks. And then suddenly has to process
even you know it's already games already going to speed up, but
you have to process quicker as a result of having less time in
the pocket and receivers who don't get open as much.
Little bit concerned that Strod's going to have some bumps
early at least, but. There's a lot of reasons to like
his profile too, so we'll see. I mean, I just think he could be
somebody who will grow into what he's going to become like.
Don't be hard on Stroud early on is the way I would put that.
Damian Harris comes off the board.
Gretsch was in. The DM is pounding the table for
him, so we jumped the shark when we took Nico.
Yeah, Moster, and somebody's killing me for saying best of
line of college football. Sorry, I don't know anything
about relative offensive lines of college football.
I just know that it for the for the quarterback time to throw
and all those stats and like clean pockets and under pressure
rate like he had a lot of clean pockets.
That's what I know. Sorry.
Listen the chat might have been killing you but we were here
killing you on air for your Damian hairs take.
OK, you gotta you gotta listen to him when we're killing you.
The chat, the chat's killing you.
They come second. OK, sorry.
David Harris. Yes, that I've already
capitulated entirely and decided that I we didn't jump the shark
to pass it. He belonged to that lower tier.
I'm still drafting him but he did you know it was fun.
He's not like, I mean I think he can make a case that he still
could have been in that like Charbonne Penny Tier that he was
in in best ball like earlier this summer at times like the
110 range. Ryan says he's This is the Davis
Matic. You said it confidently enough
for I've. Yeah.
It's the Davis Matic chat talking Jonathan Mingo, Pat D
Ming, Jonathan Mingo. I like Jonathan Mingo, Gretch.
What do you think? Is it?
Doesn't it just suck? We don't know that he's he's
just Caroline and Nico Collins. Wait.
But looks. Like he's a Carter.
I'm cool with it. If you guys don't want to do
what I just said, I also don't mind that.
I'd rather do that. I mean I think the team is
calling for more for Mingo, like that's what the that's what this
team is asking for. I think, OK, Jonathan Mingo is
the selection in the 12th round. I don't even know what that
means, but it's provocative and I like it.
I'm gonna use it again then, yeah, this is, did you guys see
the clip of Brick when we were doing that draft a couple months
ago? And he just is like out of
nowhere. Pete.
Who the fuck is Jonathan Mingo? That's amazing, Yeah.
What I meant by that is that we. It's like, OK, let's say we're
wrong and one of these receivers are Keenan, Allen tweaks his
hand. Me or something.
It's like we need a we need another receiver starter.
How much restraint did it take for you not to body bag Chris
Godwin as the guy we were needing to fill in for?
Well, I wouldn't have it wouldn't because injury.
It's just cuz he's not. For any point, yeah.
But it's like, you know. Mingo's not obviously not gonna
be someone more like happy to start week one.
But I think by like week four, week five, week 6, so you could
be like, I don't know, I think we could throw Mingo on if we
want, you know. So I think he gives you and he
gives you upside. So it's like a nice little
package when you're when you're not deep at wide receiver.
Yeah, I get that. And I think I just gave my whole
scouting take on Shadow. I thought Breese looked really
comfortable for his first preseason game.
Bryce. I said Breese.
Bryce Young looked really comfortable.
Race phone's gonna be good. Are good either.
But if he's like really good right away, then yeah, I mean,
Mingo gets gets the benefit of that, right?
This is one of those things where the, like, the football
guys are actually using analytics because they're just
like referencing this guy's like height and weight and we get to
be like, I don't know, dude just can play quarterback, man.
But I'm using, I'm using the stats to come to that take, but
I get to be like, dude, just balls.
I don't have to tell you. So I'm in.
I'm in. The dude just knows ball.
Dude knows ball, dude. I love that.
That's the new way that people jerk each other off when they
have the same take. It's like you.
Know all dude, You know, ball dude.
You know, ball, dude. You know, Ball.
I love with someone who doesn't know ball, tells someone who
doesn't know Ball, they know ball.
Yeah, nothing that makes me happier.
It's like you're not qualified to say that you don't know ball
either. Either of you know ball.
Please don't ever tell me that I know ball.
One, because it's a repulsive phrase, and two, because I
legitimately do not know ball. Don't know it, so don't tell me
I do you know fantasy bro, oh bro, you know.
Did you see that team? You know, fantasy bro, bro, You
know fantasy. You know tournament structure.
Did you know? Tournament structure?
Which is also just. It's just become shorted for.
I agree with you like. I mean the other part of it so
ridiculous like. Just just, I agree period.
We have the same tape like, I mean come on man, I appreciate
this workshop because I have not recorded the best ball bro video
yet and I. Realize you go ball definitely
needs to be in there. Yeah, dude, making that note,
what happened? Just kidding.
Yes, Mims was the other guy re assignment.
Yeah, Gretch. Gretch had floated Mims.
I think that definitely would have been a good pick as well.
He goes off a few picks after. So you were saying that Mingo
has a shot to be the number one on his team in a way that Mims
doesn't? Essentially, that's why he was a
better fit. Yeah, then and and you know, you
could say what does #1 mean or whatever, but he's gonna get,
he's got a a chance to have like a reliable target share pretty
early in the season. Yeah, Mims, it's thin.
It's thin that that would happen.
It's not impossible but it's more of a late season He emerges
and it's like they can't keep him off the field and I I like
that bad. I think he's.
I think he's the better prospect for sure.
But when you know you're looking for a wide receiver 6 and Nick
Collins is your wider seer 5I. I just lean mango there.
Tasha Spears that was another guy was head in the queue.
He goes what, Gretch? I was going to say I'm a little
worried about our wide receiver death, but otherwise really like
this team so far. You got to love having Lamar and
Pitts. You got to love the the strength
at wide receiver given we took four out of five in the first
five rounds and then I I like the receipt.
The running back so far, I mean it's a a young upside group, but
it's a fun team. So far as you know, you'd wish
to have five or or 6 receivers or 7 receivers before the wide
receiver window closes right in a start 3 receiver format.
It's a little bit scary, the lack of depth, but it's fun to
draft teams that have really fun starting lineups, isn't it?
I mean, that's kind. Of it is fun.
I don't know why we've never done it before.
Great guys. And plug them into spots in your
lineup. This is really.
Fun We are starting to see teams kind of like make structural
decisions. You see Team 12 goes
back-to-back tight ends after taking none.
We saw team seven do Juwan Johnson and Sam Laporta in back
to backgrounds catching up there.
We're starting to see some teams do their second quarterback as
well. The Anthony Richardson team took
Dak Prescott. Thank you, Henry, Muto says.
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That seems like too easy of a of a goal for that, I feel.
Like I need not your best effort, Tyler.
No. How about 606 hundred likes?
Sure. Yeah.
If everyone watching hits the like button, we.
What did you ask me to do? I don't even know what that
means. Sure, it's.
Something Tyler not being able to spell boobs correctly was a
real underdog that just came through that, yeah.
That was like plus 8000 and someone, someone's loaded.
Right now I just have to get Bob's.
Thing on his calculator when he was like fifth grade.
How do you spell boobs at this age?
This guy could spell boobs on any device ever created by a
human, and yet he's asking Pete to show his Bob's Do you know
who's falling a ton relative to their best ball?
ADP Tyler Boyd is still on the board right now.
Oh, let's just take him. That's kind of good man.
We had so many chances to stack Perot.
We're doing an awesome job almost stacking Perot.
Tyler boy, just chilling. I've got him just chilling and
he's still probably the best. Yeah, I think he is.
The best available receiver? The best Yeah.
It kind of happened in our one of our.
The best receiver just went off. He's 2 tiers lower than where
we're at right now. Where would you take Van
Jefferson in a 34 round draft? Wider Seaver 86 is where I got
him ranked. It's a good spot, right?
Oh my God. Tyler Boyd.
Sniped on Boyd in the 13th. So what about Rondell Moore?
Is he available? Rondell Moore is available.
He's at the top of the queue. Jalen Hiatt could maybe be like
a little Arbitrage Mims running back.
You're looking at like Singletary.
Kendra Miller, Jeff Wilson are the most interesting names
there. Wilson could be something.
Yeah, I we can go around. I got another receiver to float.
I kind of like Wilson here. Yeah, go for.
Yeah, I like Wilson. Let's do Wilson.
Then we can figure out. Let's see.
Thank you Sasquatch. First time.
Been watching for a couple seasons.
Appreciate that. Oh, another thing.
So over on my YouTube channel tomorrow, I'm doing a randomizer
with Roto Pat. Roto Pat is just bad.
That's killing me all suburb the some of the props I've already
seen on Twitter are are very good and I believe also today is
Roto Pat's birthday. I think I saw Denny tweet that
out. So happy birthday Roto Pat.
But yeah, join us for a randomizer draft tomorrow
followed by our FFPC main event with Sean Siegel on ship
chasing. Going to be a fun, fun night
also on Friday. So if you guys are YouTube
members on ship chasing or on my channel, I've been doing a best
Ball after Dark series. I'm going to do one.
It's going to be an afternoon series On Friday I'm doing one
with Eric Beinfor. We're going to see if we can run
back our BBM Magic from a couple years ago.
Excited to talk to Eric. If any of you guys are YouTube
members, you'll get access to those videos as well.
As we just wrapped up our FFPC main event mini SOD series where
we all the three of us hopped on the horn to talk through our
decisions at each point of the draft.
We just wrapped up our final picks there.
There's what, six or seven episodes?
You guys can go back and watch us talk through a lot of these
kind of individual, player and structural debates that we're
having tonight in longer form. Feels good to have some drafts
under our belt, fellas. For sure, Pat, this comment says
that you spent all of 80P chasing wrecking Rondale.
He's one I I get very stubborn on my takes.
As you guys have noticed over the years.
He's one I watched in the first preseason game and was like,
yeah, I don't know why I'm still touting Rondale.
Yeah, I don't know. And he's not a starter like he's
not. He's not a starting wide
receiver. He's also.
That's why I'm out. Like that's simple as that,
yeah. And to.
To be that small and on such a bad offense, he's got to be like
really, really good. And he just, yeah, like he
hasn't been yet. He might, he might be.
He might be good. And he's definitely, he's not.
Not, yeah, but it's, you know, it's starting to feel a little
whisky or something where it's like he does some things that
are exciting but like as a team really going to give him a
chance to play NFL wide receiver at a starter level.
And so far it seems like no. So it's honestly incredible.
In the in the preseason game, he literally fell down and it went
for an interception. Why?
Easy. He like tried to make it in
breaking cut and fell down and it was like all this little kid
fell down and they got an interception because of it.
It's that I'm just realizing how funny it is that we don't have a
Rondell Moore clip. He seems like the exact player
we would have mushed along with Sky and.
Well, I think we did mush him. We just never did with a clip.
We just never did the clip. Yeah, we did mush him, though.
The intent was there. Yeah, we we did not.
The intent, the effect we. Successfully.
We just never memorialized it. I'd like to think that I did go
back and forth with someone with like 14 rounds of edits on a
Rondell Moore clip, but we could just never agree on the final.
Yeah. Can you find where it doesn't
look quite so small? Yeah.
All right, we're on the clock. I I like who who Gretch floated.
You guys like Curtis Samuel? That I think would be.
I think he's like, he's kind of like probably what we want
Rondell more to be, honestly. That's that'd be fun what any
other what receivers he just feels.
So at the top of the queue you're looking at like Osborne
DPJ Shaheed, Joshua Palmer, Paris Campbell.
Like Curtis, Samuel actually looks like a guy that might earn
enough targets where you feel comfortable starting him.
I. Feel like we drafted like
boomers. We got to take the boomer
receiver type late. We're like, yeah, this guy's got
to run a lot of routes and. Yeah, yeah, it's fun.
We don't have the depth of upside plays.
We're like, we kind of need a guy that could just play.
What do you guys think? So we have 14, We're through 14
rounds. So we have.
I know. You love Sam?
How about? Well, no, I mean, I think it's
opening up Curtis Samuel, you know, better quarterback, you
know, probably going to run more routes.
So as far as, like, you know, mediocre slot receivers go,
probably better pick than Chris Government.
And not, I was just going to say though, so obviously we got to
do one spot for a kicker in defense.
So that leaves four more picks. I mean, we are getting to the
point where the board is pretty wiped out, where we're now
probably circling back to the onesies.
I don't know if we want to consider carrying a second
quarterback. I do think a second tight end
would definitely be viable just based on the kind of talent
left, but any other structural things you guys are thinking
through here? I'm.
Going to float another water sewer.
The play as we talk so much shit about Rondell Moore that he
comes back in the 15th and we all say well.
Got to take Rondell now. It is a shame, Chris says, that
David Bell is so bad that we can't even see that clip
anymore. It's a bummer, but it happens.
It's the circle of life. You got to be able to let some
of these clips go. Paris Campbell comes off the
board. NBS Oh, there goes.
Your guy Pat Dombrowski was not going to let Michael Wilson by.
I was working on a joke in the private chat.
I said we got to get Michael Wilson, cuz he's arbitrage
Hyatt, who's arbitrage? Mims who's arbitrage?
Quinton Johnston. Wow.
And to think that that joke might have been just reserved
for the private chat. Thank God.
I did hear it.
Michael Wilson, we were just got talking about Rondell.
Like part of the reason to not be getting on him is how about
that offense is like he's going to play.
This is a great one where like the the camp news is I think
like. It's all positive.
He's going to play and buying that.
He's going to be an outside receiver on a really crappy team
and with a bad quarterback. And like, his profile isn't even
that great. So why are we taking him?
Because he's a starting wide receiver, is pretty athletic and
his quarterback might not be bad down the stretch.
So you really. Know.
Yeah. We don't know.
Yeah, we don't know. Like it's you could.
It's the exact same argument you would have made against Terry
Mclaurin that I did make against Terry Mclaurin.
I wasn't not in on Terry Mclaurin.
Sometimes these guys with not great profiles who are athletic
and we're trying to corner the market on the big fast players
on bad teams who have kind of suspect college prospect
profiles. Nico Jonathan Mingo.
Michael Wilson would have rounded out that triumph.
Yeah, that's so true. For sure GA would say that.
I don't know. I don't know.
Ball, is that it? He said.
You don't. You just don't know.
Grudge Yeah, you don't know Ball is now code for you.
Don't refresh Twitter Training camp highlights enough.
That's exactly right, Shelly. I mean Redacted takes Rondo
Moore and Devin Singletary at the 1415 Turn.
Our Team here through 14 Rounds. Cooper Cup, Devonta Smith,
Keenan Allen, Chris Godwin, Nico Collins, Jonathan Mingo and
Curtis Samuel At wide receiver, quarterback Lamar Jackson.
Tight in Kyle Pitts are running backs.
James Cook, Damien Pierce, Zach Charbonne, Jalen Warren, Jeff
Wilson. Even though we have a lot of
people watching tonight, we will always service the audio
listeners. The ship chasing audio feed of
course predated even these Johnny Come lately video
watchers. We will never forget you audio
listeners. Justin Ross comes off the board.
Lazarus here gets taken in the 15th.
That makes sense. I mean, he's probably someone we
should have considered. Right.
Just such an easy drop, yeah, isn't anything.
So coming up here, to me the the tight ends look like the best
picks on the board. We could go.
I was just gonna say Giants wide receiver Hodgins goes there.
Yeah, No, I mean, Titan's a good place for sure.
It does seem like there are some legit starting type guys also.
Like if we take a really big swing here, you know if we, if
we go for some of these rookie breakout types, I mean there is
the chance you get a little flex appeal if you need to if.
Kyle's hits hits is Richie James a similar enough play to to Ross
as an easy cut. But like, we haven't played into
Kansas City's offense at all in this draft, and if you were to
play in Kansas City's offense, that would be a thing to have.
I don't know. I don't know you're gonna get
the information as easily, but I could be wrong about that.
Yeah, well, if. It gets cut, then we, then we.
Cut it. He could be an easy cut for
sure. I just don't know.
We're gonna get the like. To me, Ross is enough of an
exciting profile that I'm like, if he makes a team, I'm like,
let's just told him for two weeks.
Richie, it feels like more like when What are we holding for?
Like, right. I mean, obviously you could just
like take the slot receiver job and that'd be sweet.
But do you want to do Richie James or do you want to?
I can name like 4 tight ends that look interesting to me.
He does go here. We keep playing tonight on slot
receivers, yeah. Who else?
So tight ends by the ADP order? Michael Mayer, Hunter Henry,
Jake Ferguson and a REDACTED player who's been screaming up
boards lately. I'm in on all all that.
Yeah, Ferguson, I just wrote up in an article that's gonna be
out tomorrow, Was it? Did we do it?
Let's do it. Yeah, we've come on down.
I I like. I I as I when I wrote about him
the other day, I wrote I want to move him up, but I haven't been
able to. But I'd be.
I'm excited to read that profile because I mean, he had a decent
little college production profile, right?
I remember writing. Looking that up, he's OK.
It was like it was. Not.
It was not horrible. That's right.
Yeah, it wasn't that exciting, but he was.
He was a really good run blocker though, in college and then he
came in. That's the big that's the role
he had. He was used a lot on run
blocking and play action. So it's a case.
The case is that he, I think he'll have the play action stuff
and Dallas ranked 8th last year in play action passes.
In the Green Zone and they were third in 2021.
So if the if the whole point of these you know if we're shooting
for touchdown upside right let me get a guy who I'm I'm
confident will be out there on the play action stuff on a team
that uses that at the goal line that seems.
Not super deep receiver core like I do think Cooks is going
to probably be solid, but he's older.
Gallup is a a big question mark. He's worth drafting because he's
going to run a ton of routes, but he was not good even before
his ACL. Like he might not just be good.
So Ferguson could be like their second target in some scenarios.
Yeah, yeah. And I think the other thing too,
like we know, like, right, like if you're faking the run that
opens it, like the whole point is to get the linebackers to
move up so there's space behind them.
And it's just like it's maybe I do know ball.
Do you guys think I know Ball? I do that clip so bad.
I mean, weren't you that what? What was the didn't you have us
pull up like a blocking video? We were, was it like a Gerald
Everett snap or something we were watching a month or so back
and I was like. I know Ball.
This changes every day. Ball dude, I I was gonna float.
But you have to put this stream if I know Ball hang out with you
guys. So we're on the clock again.
There's still all the interesting tight ends I I don't
know if you guys have. Anything else?
I was. I was going to try to be like,
let's do the Kendra Miller thing, but he goes, should we
take a QB2 instead? I mean, I just do we need three
tight ends on on this roster? Structurally we can.
I don't care. But.
The only guy I would say is just take fucking Luke Musgrave and
just see if he's the bee's knees and cut him if he's not.
That was my only thing. Yeah, I like that.
He's a good pick. We're gonna need flex plays.
We got like 3 good receivers. 3 1/2 We decided God was half
good. Gretch hates all of our college
Viggo picks. Pat hates the God would pick.
We just shrugged our shoulders at Devonda Smith.
They say go get your guys. What if you are lukewarm at
best? On the whole team.
On the entire team. The thing about Gavin, the
reason why he tilts me so much is that, like, I think he's like
a sixth round value, not a fifth round value.
So it's not. I don't think I have like that
fundamental of a disagreement. I just to me he's sort of like
in the back end of that tier, not even at the end, but just
like kind of, you know, 66% of the way through the tier and
everyone else thinks he's the very first guy that starts the
tier and take him like that. And so I just have, I'm just
like, can we just take someone else to start this tier, you
know? But we know, yeah.
I mean, we all love JSN. And then we click God with I
just. I know, yeah.
We all love JSN. Don't have that habit.
This team needs JSN. It needs.
It actually needs JSN.
For morale purposes only, right? If nothing else, at least for
morale. We are seeing the defensive run
beginning here. We've also seen Ave.
Maria himself, Justin Tucker aka Baltimore Ravens team kicker
come off the board in the 15th. I'll say one thing about the JSN
Peg. We have done this a couple of
Times Now where we've tried to get the good prices early on JSN
and we haven't got them. So now I think we're free guys
to just take him in the third fucking round we are.
Yeah, we're just going after JSN for now on.
If I hit the name Chris Godwin again, we're taking JSN.
So don't say Godwin's name unless you want JSN.
It'll never happen again. It'll never happen again.
There's. So much Godwin already.
We're like fucking load up on this dude, yeah?
I have a ton of them in Best Buy.
I can't get away from him. No, it's not even just the best
ball. Yeah, that's like, why do I, Why
do I keep drafting God? No, I know.
I'm aware that you guys aren't even drafting me within there,
and yet you're in my brain going just take Godwin, dude.
He's a good thing. Starting to think you guys don't
know Ball? Wow.
Russell Gage is done for the season.
Yeah, I think. You're not much of A news hound,
man. You don't know news, Bob.
Get hurt and get caught off. I did not see the official news.
Hound, you don't know. News You don't know News Bro.
That should be the official slogan of Roto World.
You don't know News, Bro. Now I got.
I gotta get, you know, I gotta get one of the the apps going.
I'm not getting alerts right now.
This this is pretty curious. Pat Jonathan in the chat
mentions Godwin was on Pat's winning team and you Cape for
every guy on there. You're out here bragging about
having like 9% Hunter Renfro. What?
How is Chris Godwin not getting the winner's Halo treatment?
Not everyone gets the Halo treatment.
OK, I've been pretty hard on Taekwon Thornton.
Now that he looks like he's not a starter, Mike is Sicky.
I've never liked. Even when I took him on that
roster, I was probably like you had Mike a sickie on that team.
I had Mike a sickie on that team.
He supports us that Ohh, that's amazing.
Yeah, yeah. No, There's a few players that I
have not been standing. You've always been a real Dick
to Mike, a sickie. Like I have, I have.
It's true I almost included him in this Titan article just to
kick him, but I did. Show I did start showing love to
Taekwon Thornton Pat. He Lord knows he needs it.
Yeah, no, I I well, listen, you know, if you can't say anything
nice, don't say anything at all. And I haven't talked about him
in a while. Dude, I knew it was bad when
Sean had his draft of on day Parker Today us like Sean.
Pretty sure we drafted Taekwon Thornton at like pick 105 and
one of our early BBX. That's the worst.
When he gets you on to like a really extreme region, like 2
weeks later, he's like Oh yeah, I mean, my bad.
That's not a pic we can make anymore.
I remember listening Why we? Why did you have so much
conviction a week ago? I remember like listening to one
of the streams. You know, after I jumped off and
you guys took Tywin Thornton so early and Sean was like, we
gotta get out in front of this dude.
We gotta, we gotta make sure we're not.
He's gonna be on 20 picks and I was like 20 picks higher.
What do you? Yeah, we are on the clock again.
Is this a four net pick? Oh God no.
Do that to us. A QB.
A backup QB? Derek, Cards or Tyler?
If you're going to take a big cut at backup QB, Tyler's
probably the one. That's the way to go.
We can. We can get Tyler through.
Yeah, we almost stacked him with Ron Bill and almost stacked him
with Michael Wilson too, so. You know our near.
Stacks are just incredible. Think about, think about all
stacks we could have had. Yeah, we could have taken Train
McBride as a late tight end, but we took two other ones.
I mean, we could have, we could have stacked them so many ways.
Yeah, Let's see. So we got three more picks.
What position? I feel like we still want to add
one more receiver. Yeah.
Is it wrong? So I'll I'll read down by by ADP
here Joshua Palmer Renfro Josh Downs Secure Terrace Marshall
Taekwon Thornton Miko Harbin Wandale Robert Woods On Robinson
Darius Slayton Parker Cedric Tillman Corey Davis Matt Collins
Greg Dorch Stack him up Short King Summer.
I think Slayton and Parker are both like, oh, there goes
Parker. It happens.
This is the point where everyone in the chat starts bringing up
Puka. That that's the new thing
everyone of my it's just my chat.
Comment streams are just everyone saying Puka, look at
this chat. Sam just showed up, he said.
Surprise no, Jay, I said. We're surprised too, So we are
too. Well, you know, the headset
miscommunication, you know, just didn't didn't get through here
we yeah. I just thought it was a good
prompt for Rhoda. Pat, please send it in on
Twitter. Gretch, you gonna pull a wide
receiver off out of your back pocket here?
I think it's Slayton. I don't have a good one.
Hidden. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
You really want to pull one? Trey Palmer.
OK. So we're just betting against
the. God, when He burned Sauce
Gardner in their joint practice today for a 60 yard TV, he
scored a TV in their first preseason game.
It was a sweet catch in the back of the end zone.
He looks legitimately good. I wrote him up earlier this
spring and actually thought his profile was a little underrated.
He had a transfer away from LSU, but there was some stuff that.
The way that he was very He was very he was going on in
Nebraska. Let me just sit on it.
Why don't we take Ravens defense?
They're at home for CJ Strad Week 1.
No, he's gone. OK.
I just want to roll a clip. Yeah, no, yeah, he's gone long
ago. I'm just saying.
I think we can take whatever, take the D, take the D yeah,
that's good all. Right, so it's in this scenario,
Damian Pierce runs for 100 yards and two touchdowns, but CJ
Stroud throws 4 picks in week one.
I think that's. I think that's how we get there.
There you go. Here come the puka hive.
Trey Palmer's great on God. Gone with teams.
That's, I mean, it's a fairpoint.
It's a fairpoint. We don't need any income.
Our fifth round thing. If only weeks of JSN, we can
take Trey Palmer. Yeah, Ben says Marlon Humphrey
might be out. I know I podcast with Jack
Settlement. Do you see Jack's doing a weekly
podcast with Marlon Humphrey? No, really.
Yeah. Wow.
That's cool. He mushed him immediately.
Got hurt right after. It was like his version of
making a clip for someone. I mean it's.
Pretty cool clip if it's a whole podcast, you know.
Yeah, yeah. I just hope Jack knows Ball.
Otherwise he's going to get exposed.
Wait, is NBS not? Pretty sure he doesn't.
Dusty drafted Sean. Sean's wondering why we didn't
take Mvs. He's.
No 14th round. The chat is great at suggesting
players who already went. Someone wanted to take Dalton
Schultz earlier when he was gone like 4 rounds earlier.
Do you know Ball Sean? Do you guys know draft boards?
You don't know draft boards, bro.
Sean knows ball, Yeah. All right, we got two more picks
here, our team through. 18 rounds here started with Cooper
Cup. Then went Devonta Smith, Keenan
Out and Lamar Jackson, Chris Godwin, James Cook, Kyle Pitts,
Damien Pier, Zach Charbonnay, Jalen Warren, Niko Collins,
Jonathan Mingo, Jeff Wilson, Curtis Samuel Jake Ferguson and
Luke Musgrave. Kyler Murray, Baltimore Ravens
Actually, I love Kyler as the QB two there.
I was kind of glad that I fell into our lap that.
One's nice. Gretch, are you in the kicker
lab right now? No, I'm in the ready for bedtime
lab right now. Oh, you're telling me.
Although I heard it, I was listening to you on On the Take
cast, by the way. Go listen to our guy.
Ben graduated on the Take cast. Very fun episode.
You're saying you're getting up at like 3:00 AM these days,
every day. I can't sleep in past.
I'm trying to. I literally.
Past 3:00 AM, yeah. That's when Pat goes to bed.
He's. Just honestly, I have gone a
couple nights this week. It's not been three, but it's.
It's been after one, dude, I'm. I'm up at 3:00.
My cat's up with me. It's been fun.
She's super snuggly because it's the middle of the frickin night.
She's usually not like one of a lap cat.
But we've been having some fun. 3:00 AM moments.
But anyway, it's. When are you going to bed, dude?
I'm going to be like right at 9:00 every night and sleeping
for like 6 hours, you know, not trying to necessarily.
I'm like I'm writing a ton. I'm like it's it's all like
you've been. Churning out articles I will.
It's all just like the it's this.
It's fantasy football. Like I freaking.
I'm. I'm peaking right now, boys.
I'm ready to go. I'm excited.
I'm dropping the info in the chat.
We will be drafting a prime time.
Draft on NFCA Week from tonight. That'll be a slightly earlier
start time. Normally we're a 915 show.
That draft is at 8 online August 23rd, 8:00 PM Eastern.
There are a couple spots left, three spots left in that draft.
If you guys want to draft with us, get that sweet, sweet idiot
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and in the description. Get signed up and you can
compete against us and also if you're in the ship chasing
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are YouTube members you can unlock that ship chasing Discord
and maybe find some likeminded piss boy drafters, kickers, team
kickers available. We got the Bills, the Cowboys,
the Falcons, the Niners, Eagles, Patriots.
Jags. Dolphins, Cowboys in a Dome.
How are we feeling about them? Seems good.
McCarthy probably likes to kick field goals.
You know he doesn't do it. He wants to score last points,
as he stated. By the way, yeah, I heard on the
Road World Football Show a Cowboys beat writer came on and
was was saying that McCarthy had to clarify.
He's like, listen, I was talking about the 2021 season, Okay.
Not last season when he said that he was scoring too many
points. So I guess they scored fewer
points last year and now he was cool with that level of points
and he doesn't want to score any fewer points than last year.
He just thought 20/21 was too many points.
So you know, adjust, adjust the ranks I guess.
All right, final, final pick here.
I mean, Sean got me back on the Wandell Robinson train.
Today I was trying to do some news hounding on him just to
find any like there's just there's no reporting on Wanda
Robbins like just. Some bullish stuff.
Bullish. All right, You got me a bullish
okay. Yeah.
There was. I'll pull it up.
Let's make sure we get them and then I'll, I'll pull them up.
Yeah, the we had the string of a million slot wide receivers
added to the Giants and then I was, you know, trying to do my
very indepth Twitter in Google News search and there wasn't too
much to be found. It wasn't.
It wasn't like from that recent it was maybe a week and a half
ago. Yeah, week, week and 1/2 in NFL
news cycle time. That might as well have been the
19th century. How am I going to find this?
If team three is bleeding the clock just to take Wandell
Robinson get a life buddy. Actually probably already logged
out queued it up and said I'm I'm done for the evening.
Melvin Gordon. Are you guys down with Juan
Dolly? I am.
Yeah, I like it. Seems like a guy.
He's a great. Cut if we need.
That's how we're going to get more information by week one,
for sure. Like we should have a good idea
of where he's out with his health and he's a great play for
this build. If he's like, surprisingly going
to play in the first few games of the year, yeah, Giants.
Legitimately be their lead receiver.
I mean other than Waller, but like their lead wide receiver,
Love it. Yeah, I think it's a good pick.
I mean, I can't find this report now.
Maybe I hallucinated it, but. It was something like he it's
his recovery has been like remarkable and he might avoid
the pup. Yeah, the we just got paid by
the guy who took JSN. That hurts.
I'm not. Even everyone tipping us for
giving them the players they like.
Thanks for P ride. Thanks for JSN.
Josh was has had fun tonight. Guys.
Good luck and thanks for JSN. You're sick.
That's such a sick needle. It's sick.
I wish I could rip up the $20 bill.
Right in front of you, Josh. Hey Josh, I don't feel sick to
my stomach right now. Just so you got God would, yeah.
I like Chris Godwood, and I'm not mad about it.
OK. God damn it.
All right, here. I found the tweet.
It's from Art Stapleton, who is a giant speed writer.
He's great. I think he is very well
respected, actually. From what I.
From what I got, I'm gonna try to start stealing Silva's bed of
just, like, like, aggressively loving certain beat reporter.
You're the best fucking bitch, dude.
I read every word you write. You should, you know, Ball.
You know, fucking ball. Hey, hey, hey, let me tell you
something. You know, ball interrupt the guy
all. Right.
Thank you, Tyler. Yes.
This is interesting. Now this is from August 7th, so
this is it's almost. Almost 10 days ago.
I don't know if I should even read this, but this is
interesting. I've heard that maybe we should
pump the brakes on assuming hashtag New York Giants with the
Giants emoji, wide receiver Wandale Robinson is staying on
PUP into the regular season. At the rate he's progressing
from the ACL, Robinson may be back before the end of the
summer, which is a stunner for me.
A stunner. That guy knows ball dude.
Art knows Ball. I feel pretty confident about
that all. Right.
We did it. This team here is in the books,
our silver bullet, they told us to go get our guys and said we
tried to get a few values and ended up hating our team.
It's how it goes just getting. I actually structurally I
actually think this is like a very well put together team.
I think it's if we just swap out Godwin for JSN, we probably all
feel a lot better about this. Yeah, we would feel better about
it. But we didn't do that.
We didn't do that, but unfortunately that's not our
team. I would like that team better.
You are right. It happens.
All right. I'm gonna recap this team here
from the top and then we will we'll get out of here.
So Gretch and the and the one of us who has a has a small baby
can can go to bed here. Cooper Cup.
Devonta Smith. Keenan Allen.
Chris Godwin. Nico Collins.
Jonathan Mingo. Curtis Samuel and Wandale
Robinson. At wide receiver our running
backs James Cook. Damien Pierce, Zach Charbonne,
Jalen Warren and Jeff Wilson. Some people saying I love your
wide receivers except Godwin. But a little worried about your
running backs quarterback Lamar Jackson.
Titans. Kyle Pitts.
Jake Ferguson, Luke Musgrave. Also Kyler Murray at
quarterback. Team defense, Baltimore Ravens
Team kicker. Dallas Cowboys.
I do like this team, fellas. I I like it.
I mean I who's worried about a running backs this is about as
strong as you're going to see so.
I was getting out in front of Twitter saying they're a little
worried about our running backs. All right, well, they're they're
not going to like the rest of the teams because this is a this
is a robust running back team as far as I'm concerned.
So we we took James Cook in the 6th and hammered it after that,
so. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's
pretty good. Yeah, here's the the team level
view of our team here again this is this is managed.
We got to get outside of a a basketball brain here we will
have some easy cuts based on kind of information on some of
these wide receivers. I envision we're probably
churning a couple of these wide receivers for running backs
pretty quickly after after week one, would be my guess.
Yeah, but that's hopefully we get some hits and we turn the
rest. Yeah, all right guys.
Like I said tomorrow night we are running this back with a
draft stream with Sean Segal and I I'll just tell you this right
now, Sean's already floating some crazy ass builds.
I mean stuff that. I'm not even, I think,
underselling it. Why did you do some pretty crazy
build? So I think tomorrow night with
Sean is going to be a treat here.
Pat looks terrified. I am terrified.
Because you know how Sean does this?
You know how Sean? He doesn't.
He waits to say the craziest shit until there's 15 seconds
left on the clock. Yeah, And then it's like, wait.
What we got to decide what we're doing?
Just got a really funny message the other day that was like.
Oh God, I just got to read this. It was a text message.
I'm not gonna say who it was from, but it was fantastic.
It was. Seagull has this way of writing
where you see the title and go. Yeah, sure, I'd love a discount.
Tony Pollard. Who is it?
Oh, Travis ETN. That's pretty crazy.
Guy never catches passes tank tank Never catches catches
passes. Tank.
Bigsby, yada yada. And by the time I finish your
article, damn, I better take ETN around ahead of ADP on every
team. Like, I mean, he can get you on
to anything. He's persuasive as all hell.
Yeah. And what's really scary is
Shawn's going through his robust running back phase right now.
You know, teens go through their rebellious phase.
They go through their goth phase.
Shawn's in his robust RV phase right now.
OK, appreciate you. Like I said, if you guys are
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Check out Stealing Signals as you saw here, Ben.
Burning the candle on both ends, pumping out all kinds of
content. Pat has some sweet legendary
upside content that is some of it being previewed in the
Fantasy Life newsletter tomorrow, Pat.
I was working on that and saw that the the Mark Andrews piece
is getting the the big time treatment.
So if you want your Mark Andrews shares, go get them now, Pat.
Yeah, Davis is apparently drafting Mark Andrews.
So we got one, we got someone, we got someone drafting more
Mark Andrews now. Yeah, the bags are.
About to be pumped on Mark Andrews so this would be a good
time to draft the Mark Andrews piece.
I had to follow up with some other early round tight ends and
then tomorrow I've got that piece on a couple of the late
round guys that really kind of popped in.
Some of the play action stuff created a new metric for them to
have fun with. Those are great tight end
pieces. I've really enjoyed reading
those. Definitely I I pinged you for
your opinion on some tight ends for a draft because I was just
like, I mean, you're you're deep in the weeds on this stuff in a
really good way. It's exciting, Pat, When you
were talking about tight ends and like, play action, shit, I
was like, this guy fucking knows balling, man.
See you guys tomorrow.