1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,760 We are officially halfway through the fantasy football 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,440 regular season with seven weeks behind us. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,600 And just like we all expected, the Patriots have a new breakout 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,560 running back and his name is Terrell Jennings. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:24,520 This is stat chasing Pat fryer Helmo. 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:32,080 This is Anita handjob. Fix your sight Jamar and also 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,840 play chase. You. 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,520 Can't handle the heat. It looks like we're finding 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,320 this, boys. You're right. 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,000 Draco has decided he cannot show his face on camera due to the 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Trayvion Henderson debacle that's happening in New England. 12 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,360 Draco has decided it's best if he just joins us voice only. 13 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,760 So you're you're going to have to put up with only my face, but 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,840 both of our voices cause Draco is here to help me in stat 15 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,320 chasing for. Weeks yeah. 16 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:16,560 What's weird is I see that I am I'm on the camera. 17 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Some people in the chat let me know if I'm if I'm a black box 18 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,880 you maybe I'm in black box, but even if he can steal me, see me, 19 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,600 but just imagine just imagine that it's a Zoom call. 20 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,080 I'm phoning it in. I didn't get dressed today. 21 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,840 I'm in my PJS and I have a Zoom meeting. 22 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,720 You know what I just realized? Since you are typically the one 23 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,400 who presents the charts, I hope that there's no issue with that. 24 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Why don't you try to present the charts here and we'll see if 25 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:52,840 that works. All right. 26 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,160 The charts were great, so at least we've got that going for 27 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:03,080 us. I I see myself on the on the 28 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,200 screen so it's so frustrating that if it's not working. 29 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,639 I, I, it might just be me. Maybe the chat will come to our 30 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,760 rescue shortly and tell me that it's only on my end that you are 31 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,320 a black box. But we can, we can go ahead and 32 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,400 dive into this quarterback chart. 33 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,080 We've got a lot to cover today, a lot of a lot of moving pieces 34 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,640 here in week 7. I guess I'll, I'll go ahead and 35 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:30,200 kick us off. I feel like we're halfway 36 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,000 through the fantasy regular season at this point. 37 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,280 So it seems like a good check in spot. 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Who would you have as your top five fantasy quarterbacks? 39 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,200 You know, you're you're going into a match up and these are 40 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,480 the guys you would most like to have on your line up. 41 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,520 You know, regardless of format, be it a a weekly contest or 42 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,200 basketball team or a season long, who are who are your top 43 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:03,200 five fantasy quarterbacks? So I see your list and where I 44 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,280 see your list, so I'm getting I'm going to give my list with 45 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,200 the benefit of knowing yours and just pick and choose what I 46 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,760 like. The ones from yours that I like. 47 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:17,080 I like Mahomes. I like May, I like Baker. 48 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:26,680 I think I think I'd put Jalen Hertz in there for the floor. 49 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,440 I think if it weren't for the injury, I'd probably have Lamar 50 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:43,960 as well and maybe Doc would be up there as well. 51 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,080 And I think I, I, I think that's where where I am, I, I'm at. 52 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,240 OK. Yeah, My where where we differ 53 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,320 is I have DAC squarely in there. I also have Justin Herbert in 54 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,680 those top five and I do want to talk a little bit more about 55 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,760 him. So my my five were Mahomes, 56 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Drake, May, Baker, Mayfield, Justin Herbert and DAC with 57 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,160 honorable mentions for Josh Allen and Lamar for Hertz. 58 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,000 I just, I think that if you knew that the Eagles were going to 59 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,839 pass the ball each week, then he's certainly in there. 60 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,839 But I just think there's too much volatility with that 61 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,680 offense. I don't really trust that they 62 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:29,360 are going to be as pass friendly as the result that you got this 63 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,800 week. They actually weren't even very 64 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,840 pass friendly this week if you watch the game in the 1st. 65 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:38,040 Half like hurts. You don't need them to be that 66 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:43,800 pass friendly and even even in weeks where where they don't 67 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,000 pass at all, you still get those touch, push touch. 68 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Sounds like I, I, I think the floor is really, really good 69 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,360 and, and the ceiling is, is very, very strong too. 70 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Yeah, the floor is good. We just, we haven't really 71 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,320 accessed the ceiling much at all. 72 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,160 And I mean, even this week where he had a great, you know, 73 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,920 passing result in the first half, he really didn't have much 74 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,440 at all. I think they had two first downs 75 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,280 from passing in the whole first half. 76 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:20,160 It really wasn't a lot going. You know, he gets the deep super 77 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,240 efficient passing with the the deep strike to Devonta Smith and 78 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,840 then the long touchdown A.J. Brown. 79 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:32,040 So you know, they they string together a good game from the 80 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,400 box score standpoint, but I I was less convinced there the the 81 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,800 one that I am pretty interested in going forward. 82 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,480 We really talked this guy up at the start of the season in 83 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,280 Justin Herbert, but then. I just before you move on from 84 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:49,120 Jalen Hurts, I'm glad you say we haven't accessed the ceiling yet 85 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,680 because he's #2 and fantasy points scored. 86 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Right. It's just it's not coming in the 87 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,760 way of sealing games. Like he's not putting up 30 88 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,920 points. It's just, you know, he's 89 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,080 getting it's instantly 20. Sounds like a top five quarter a 90 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:09,440 fantasy quarterback to me. Yeah, I just I, I think like 91 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,840 give me I I think I'd probably take DAC and Mahomes straight up 92 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:18,000 over him, which sounds weird. You know, I'd certainly take 93 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Drake May straight up over him. Like those sound weird, but. 94 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,440 Yeah, Justin Herbert seems way less defendable to me given the 95 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,960 given their offensive line issues and. 96 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,840 The yeah, I think volatility, what I wanted to talk about with 97 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:35,160 Herbert is I think we are literally watching. 98 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,160 We are watching the start of a change right now. 99 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,040 Their offensive line, they should get Joe all back next 100 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:42,440 week. He was questionable to go this 101 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,080 week. He was potentially going to play 102 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,160 this week. He should be back next week. 103 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,680 Their running game is is just like dead, dead. 104 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,600 The running game wasn't good prior to the Hampton injury. 105 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,600 Like Lamarian Hampton wasn't out there tearing it up, you know, 106 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,600 or posting wildly efficient numbers or anything. 107 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,360 He finally had a breakout game after a lot of, you know, games 108 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,200 where the run game for the Chargers is underwhelming. 109 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,680 He has a good game. They get more offensive line 110 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,160 injuries. The run game has just not been 111 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,360 great. They flash against Miami, but 112 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,680 again, you know, everyone is running against Miami for tons 113 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,640 and tons of yards and efficiency. 114 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,320 So I think what we're seeing from the charges is the run game 115 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,760 is not going to be very good going forward. 116 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,360 They are getting back Joel Alt. They should be able to pass a 117 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,960 little bit more and we just see Herbert go out there and throw 118 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,200 for 420 yards and spread it around where Aronia Gadsden has 119 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,360 a monster day. Keenan Allen has a huge day and 120 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,440 we've seen all these receivers kind of trade off where it just 121 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,000 seems like it's whoever Herbert can get it to in that week is, 122 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,920 you know, going to be the producer for fantasy. 123 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,240 So I feel pretty good about this passing attack being relatively 124 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,760 resilient where they have lots of ways that Herbert can get 125 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,120 there. And I think that we're we're 126 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,360 going to see the shift more towards how the charges were at 127 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,120 the start of the season where they had extremely high PROEI. 128 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,160 Think that's going to be the norm going forward where it over 129 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,000 the last you know couple weeks prior to this they were closer 130 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,040 to neutral, they were still positive PROE, but I think we're 131 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,800 going to see that increase going forward here for Herbert. 132 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,880 Yeah. I mean, if, if, if the question 133 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,520 was who's going to have the most passing production, for sure, 134 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,640 Herbert, for sure. No, no, no doubt. 135 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,919 Maybe maybe we're splitting hairs. 136 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:41,039 We might not be actually that far off on between her Hertz and 137 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,679 and Herbert. Maybe you have him like 8 or 138 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,520 something and I have him at 4. I don't know. 139 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,960 The other one that we haven't talked about is the number six 140 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,640 fantasy quarterback is Daniel Jones. 141 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,840 And he's obviously having a very fish efficient year where he's 142 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,960 he's passing for a lot, he's passing efficiently, he's 143 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,600 getting a red zone rush attempts, he's getting rushing 144 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,920 touch. Has he scored a rushing 145 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,760 touchdown yet? Daniel Jones. 146 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:18,400 Sorry, watching. Touchdowns out of 11 attempts in 147 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:24,240 the red zone. I guess the the question is, is 148 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,880 does he turn into a pumpkin that that's kind of what's what's 149 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,320 keeping him out of our top five, right? 150 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,320 So the the thing for Daniel Jones that's concerning to me, I 151 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,760 certainly have him in there as an honorable mention. 152 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,480 But the thing that's concerning is his pressure to sack ratio is 153 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,560 the lowest it's ever been by a wide margin in his entire 154 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:43,720 career. Even when he was having decent 155 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,560 seasons previously, You know, like I'm sure you know, you take 156 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:48,680 the worst of him. Of course it's going to look a 157 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:51,200 lot better now. But even in his best seasons 158 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,680 previously, his pressure to sack ratio was much worse 159 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:56,240 historically than it is this year. 160 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,280 I think a big chunk of that is the system that he's operating 161 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,960 in and he understands his job and he's doing a good job not 162 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,200 turning pressures into stacks. I also think that that's going 163 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:15,360 to regress a little bit. It would be such a significant 164 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,320 departure from who he has been as a a quarterback historically 165 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:22,200 that there's almost certainly going to be some regression 166 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,920 there where some of those plays where he's pressured and it 167 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,000 hasn't turned into a sack, some of that is just good fortune. 168 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,160 You know, a lot of it is good play, but some of it is just he 169 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,720 he did not see the pressure. He gets the ball out literally 170 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,040 one beat before taking a hit. And if you're 1 beat late, 171 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,200 that's a sack. And you know, a big part of that 172 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,800 is the skill of the passer and knowing, you know, having that 173 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,400 good internal clock. I just think that's the piece of 174 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,960 Jones profile that looks the most fragile to me. 175 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,840 And so that's where I could see him regressing a little bit. 176 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,920 But I I don't think it knocks him out of like top fantasy 177 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,760 quarterback contention. He's just not in the top five 178 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,960 for me, but he'd be like behind hurts and Allen and Lamar for 179 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,800 me. But you know, ahead of like that 180 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,920 next year, right after that, I I think it's like a pretty clear. 181 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,080 One thing, one thing, I guess who his to to his favor, his 182 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,160 time to throw is pretty in line with his career average. 183 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:28,240 So it's not like it's not like he's getting the ball that way 184 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,800 faster because stuff is just being schemed up for him and and 185 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,520 the defenses are going to now take that away. 186 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,200 You're you're saying that he's had some close calls and there's 187 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,600 some some noise or or volatility in his low sack where he's only 188 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,360 taken 6 so far this year. You, you, you think maybe he 189 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,880 maybe he'll take 10 in the next 8, seven games or, or like 190 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,160 something like that. Yeah, it's just he would have to 191 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,800 run. Destroy drives. 192 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,640 You take 4 good drives away from a quarterback, then right that 193 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,000 that. That's a lot of points. 194 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,240 He would have to run so good to keep his pressure to SAC ratio 195 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,440 where it is compared to where it's been historically. 196 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,880 Like I I can just, I'll pull up the numbers because I was 197 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,280 looking at it earlier. So his his career average is 198 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:22,400 19.2% and he's sitting at 7.3% so far this year. 199 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:30,560 I guess my, my, my what I wonder is so obviously we saw Saquon 200 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:35,280 leave the Giants and put up the best year of his career, one of 201 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,440 the best years ever. And and running backs obviously 202 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,320 heavily dependent on offensive line. 203 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,640 Do you do you take and I guess pressure suck is explicitly a 204 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,600 quarterback stat because it's what percentage of pressures are 205 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:59,080 turning into sucks. Do you like, I guess it it it 206 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,920 is. Is there a case to be made, 207 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,720 though, for the offensive line being better because like he's 208 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,560 getting the ball out out in the same amount of time. 209 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:09,920 That's the part that I'm getting tripped up on. 210 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,600 Yeah, I mean there's still, there are still lurking 211 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,280 variables there though. Like if you like, let me let me 212 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,480 paint you a picture. There's two offenses. 213 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,800 There are two totally different teams, 2 totally different 214 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,720 offensive lines, 2 totally different schemes. 215 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,760 One of the offenses, both offenses are have the same time 216 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,960 to throw, right. They're having the same pressure 217 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,360 rate. But here's the difference. 218 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:36,760 One offense has receivers that are separating and the play 219 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,800 designs are very intentional. So the quarterback has very 220 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,200 simple reads to progress through where when you get to that point 221 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,520 in your internal clock and you've got to cut it loose, you 222 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,280 know exactly where it needs to go and your guys either open or 223 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,720 he's not. It's a very clear cut decision. 224 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,200 And then you have the other offense over here where the 225 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,160 plays aren't designed as well, the receivers aren't as clearly 226 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,400 open. It's taking a little bit more 227 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,080 processing and reading and then, you know, maybe the quarterback 228 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,520 doesn't trust his receivers as much because they're not as 229 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,480 open. And so it's just that like all 230 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,480 the the numbers that you're citing, like the pressure rate, 231 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,960 the pressure to sack rate, the time to throw, all that can be 232 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,760 consistent across two teams. And you can still get wildly 233 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,040 different results simply because of these lurking variables that 234 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,640 we're not accounting for in these specific stats. 235 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,800 And so I just don't want to say, oh, well, Daniel Jones 7.3% 236 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,720 pressure to SAC ratio. Here's his last three seasons, 237 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,280 20 percent, 31 percent, 18%. You know, he's this is less than 238 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,080 half the pressure to SAC ratio he's had in his very best 239 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,680 seasons. You know, like, right, This 240 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,800 isn't the thing that will keep. Happening describe just before 241 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Dan is like, hey, there's variables that can kind of 242 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,440 account for that and that that that aren't quite accounted for 243 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,160 in in these numbers, which is maybe he's just in a much better 244 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,560 designed offense. Yeah, absolutely. 245 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,720 I, I, I certainly think that you're, there's almost no way 246 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,200 for him to keep a 7.3% pressure in stack ratio like, you know, 247 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,440 near, near best in the league when his previous career low was 248 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,280 15.7. That's just not a you know. 249 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,680 I will gladly take action on on his pressure to sack ratio being 250 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,880 higher than 7.3 by the end of the season. 251 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,920 Yeah, Yeah. No, I think that's fair. 252 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,400 Yeah. So it's not, it's not a case 253 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:44,320 that we're saying, hey, he's going to finish at 15% or 20%. 254 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,280 We're not saying he's going to finish close to his his his 255 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,120 career average, just like he's going to take a couple more 256 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,400 sacks in the next couple of games down there, then he 257 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,840 otherwise there or then then he has in the in the previous 258 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,360 seven. Yeah, then then what he's 259 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,080 currently facing for, Yeah, 'cause I mean, currently he's 260 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,440 best in the league. And I, I would just expect that 261 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,200 to be something where you see a little bit of regression, 262 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,960 especially when you consider like the teams that he's faced. 263 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,760 Like you have a couple really strong pass rush teams in there. 264 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,400 Like you have you have the Rams in there and against the Rams, 265 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,800 like that's his highest sack game on the season. 266 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,520 Oh, what do you know? He took two sacks against the 267 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,560 Rams. You know, like so. 268 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,680 But otherwise you get like you get Vegas, you get the Titans, 269 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,800 you know, you get the Dolphins. Like there's just he's not, he's 270 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,360 not going up against like he hasn't played Houston. 271 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,760 You know, he's going to play Houston twice, by the way, like, 272 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,200 and we talked about how good Sam Darnold has been so far this 273 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,080 season and he just went up against the Houston defense and 274 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,240 looked a lot more mortal because Houston is good on defense. 275 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,320 And so I I just think that as Daniel Jones progresses through 276 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,760 the season, that is a really clear regression spot. 277 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:09,720 So put put put differently and put differently on a more macro 278 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:15,400 level, the the match ups for the Colts in the first seven games 279 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,040 have been a lot of cupcakes where you've gotten the 280 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:25,240 Dolphins, you've got the Titans, you've got the Raiders, and then 281 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,080 who do they play? Last week, they played the 282 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Chargers. Chargers. 283 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,640 Which not not not not a particularly challenging matchup 284 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,560 for an offense either. So like they've had an easy day, 285 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,880 but they have a they have a tougher schedule going forward. 286 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,720 You're saying with the the Texans twice. 287 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,800 Yeah, I mean, just any anything's going to be harder 288 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,600 than the schedule that he's gotten so far to. 289 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,520 You know, he's he had Denver, which was a real defense. 290 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,040 He had the Rams, which was a real defense. 291 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,240 And other than that, there really have not been very many 292 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:07,280 tests for this Colts offense so. OK, so that's that's probably 293 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,160 and it's my fault for taking us down that that rabbit hole. 294 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,760 It wasn't even on her R.E.M. Or or show notes, but took us 295 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,320 down the the Daniel Jones rabbit hole. 296 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:23,640 I did. And the next the next item we 297 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,720 had were were the benchings. The so we had Justin Fields 298 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,920 where I guess it this is our time to take potentially a short 299 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,680 lived victory lap where people said there's no way, no way he 300 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,800 can get benched and it's like, well, team can't really go. 301 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,720 Oh, and seven and then their their quarterback not getting 302 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:52,280 hot water and I guess lo and behold, he gets he gets benched. 303 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,520 Yeah, it's it's almost comical, like how quickly he got benched. 304 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,560 I think the the discussion around him not being benchable 305 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,080 was like back in Week 5 and now here we are in Week 7 and he's 306 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,480 benched for Tyrod. So here's the problem. 307 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,960 I can't remember if we talked about this on the show or not, 308 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,680 but Pat and I were talking about Fields getting benched for 309 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:22,080 Tyrod, and it doesn't Tyrod. It doesn't really save The Jets 310 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,800 or do anything, you know, helpful for them. 311 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,560 They're still going to lose these games. 312 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,400 It's not like it's not like Tyrod is out there playing super 313 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,600 well. He'll be able to. 314 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,720 Oh, Tyrod is playing like dog shit, yeah. 315 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,840 He'll be able to. Execute. 316 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,360 This could be a short lived victory lap like the Tyrod 317 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:45,640 Taylor New York Jets two point O era. 318 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,440 I, I put that, I put that that at the over under on that at 319 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,800 like 1 of the hot games. Yeah. 320 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,120 Maybe I'm being kind there. Yeah, I I think that maybe they 321 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,680 try and scheme the offense around him a little bit more 322 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,600 with a full week of him as the starter and try and just do some 323 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,400 like stuff where it's going to be a little bit more in his 324 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,280 wheelhouse. But I I don't know man, they 325 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,000 haven't even been able to scheme stuff up. 326 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,960 That's in Justin Fields wheelhouse so. 327 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,560 Who knows what they're doing. I, I just, I don't think that 328 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,280 Tyrod Taylor is, is very productive for what The Jets 329 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,960 need to do as a franchise. Like, I guess if they're saying, 330 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,680 hey, in no uncertain terms is Justin Fields coming back for us 331 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,240 next year. But neither is neither is Tyrod 332 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,800 Taylor Like, and you don't. It's not like you have much that 333 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,440 you're trying to evaluate on offense or like, Oh my gosh, 334 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,360 Fields is so dysfunctional. He's preventing us from 335 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,680 evaluating these other players that we need to learn something 336 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,560 about. Like I don't think that's the 337 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,640 case either. So to me it's just like you're 338 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,240 you're floundering, you're flailing and hoping that just 339 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,440 you're throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks here 340 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,360 because your season's over. You're not going to the play 341 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:56,680 offs. So like, what are you doing? 342 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:02,360 So I I think the Tyrod Taylor stuff is just like the latest, 343 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,600 you know, panic that The Jets. Yeah, they're, they're they're 344 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,920 throwing, throwing the Bolo cereal at the wall. 345 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:11,120 Bolo, maybe a Bolo spaghetti at the wall. 346 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:14,160 Let's see what sticks. Like they're like, listen, we're 347 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,520 sucking right now. I I got to do something. 348 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Yeah. And that's something with Sir 349 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Rod Taylor. Yeah. 350 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:24,280 But yeah, I I think we're on the same page where that that's not 351 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,680 going to. Last, yeah, I don't, I don't 352 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,680 even think we need to spend very much energy on on that one. 353 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,120 The other one who gets benched is Bryce Young. 354 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,440 Now, I've heard reports this is a very, very real, very serious, 355 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,000 extremely ouchy high ankle sprain for Bryce Young is so 356 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,720 real. Guys. 357 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,680 Like, you don't even know how real this injury was. 358 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,720 It definitely wasn't because he's played bad. 359 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,560 It was definitely a real injury. Don't put in the paper that they 360 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,160 benched him because he's been playing bad. 361 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,600 I mean, to me, this seems like one of the themes of this season 362 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,560 where teams have realized we're allowed to move on from our 363 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,800 quarterbacks if they're stinking, but it's also bad for 364 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:15,600 us as a team to bench a player. Because if you outright bench a 365 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,480 player, you're reducing their value in the eyes of the league. 366 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,880 Like maybe you could trade this guy down the road for something. 367 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,200 So I feel like that's what we're getting with you get JJ McCarthy 368 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,880 with the, oh, super, super real injury guys like trust us, he's 369 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,960 really injured. It's going to take a while. 370 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,560 He's he's benched. And you have Carson Wentz who's 371 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,160 dealing with a shoulder injury and still playing over at JJ 372 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,800 McCarthy, you know, who injured his ankle over a month ago. 373 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,000 So you get that same thing here with Bryce Young. 374 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,840 You also get Kyler, who, you know, very real foot injury. 375 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,200 His seems like a little bit more real than than Bryce Young, 376 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,760 yeah. I think this is a real injury. 377 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,880 But it's also. Actually want him to play over 378 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,520 Jacoby percent. But I think it's it's at least 379 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,920 in the same family of, hey, beneficial injury that is 380 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,920 allowing us to get away from this guy and play someone else 381 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,000 at quarterback. And you also might expect them 382 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,360 to let the backup ride a little bit longer if they're having 383 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,120 success. So basically this is like a, 384 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,120 it's like an NFL team free look. You know, it's, it's like how 385 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:26,800 FFPC gives you the free look going into week 1. 386 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,560 This is NFL team free look where you don't have to tell anybody 387 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,600 that you're actually benching your starter 'cause they're 388 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,600 playing like shit. You just bench them and you make 389 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,320 up an injury or they give get a a legitimate injury, but it's 390 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,080 one that they otherwise would have played through. 391 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,280 You know, like Patrick Mahomes is playing through all of these 392 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,600 injuries. You know, like. 393 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,520 Right, right. And he got. 394 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,080 All of these injuries and you see, you see quarterbacks do 395 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,640 this, by the way, like we just Carson Wentz is playing through 396 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,600 a shoulder injury that would have benched him if he were 397 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,000 playing worse, which is funny to even say, 'cause he was playing 398 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,960 terrible this week. But so you get all these guys 399 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,480 where it's like this overt benching in fields or like these 400 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,480 hush hush benchings and Bryce Young and Kyler and JJ McCarthy. 401 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,520 So I, I wanted to ask you of these guys who have all been 402 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,560 benched, who do we see come back and start for their team first? 403 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,120 Kyler for sure. I think, I think Kyler's easily 404 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:33,920 the guy who's coming back. I, I, I think it's going going 405 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,800 to be Kyler, then Bryce Young, then JJ. 406 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Wow. So when do you when do you think 407 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,680 we see JJ McCarthy then? Because I think Bryce Young, 408 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,040 they said high ankle sprain that'll I mean, I know 409 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,560 quarterbacks like Mahomes played one week after a high ankle, so. 410 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,960 Yeah. But I think. 411 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,760 I mean, if it's an actual honest to God high ankle sprain, then 412 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,360 it's like 4 weeks. Just four to six weeks. 413 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,880 If it's like a Boo Boo and they just want to see what they have 414 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,680 in any Dalton, then it's probably he's probably 2 Andy 415 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,840 Dalton games away. I, I like how you put that 416 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,840 because I was going through the exercise in my head of well, and 417 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,000 how long can Andy Dalton hold on to it and you framing it as two 418 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,880 Andy Dalton games away. It was very helpful. 419 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,760 I, I think that we so, so here's the problem with Jacoby 420 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,520 Brissett. Jacoby Brissett is bad in that 421 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,240 he he's not like going to go out there and win the game by 422 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,000 himself, but he's also better than Kyler from a he makes the 423 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,560 players catching passes on your offense more impactful like. 424 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,080 Marvin Harrison is playing out of his mind. 425 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Right now I think I think I. Think that's the two pieces? 426 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,520 Yeah, he's he's the last two games he's played out of his 427 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,240 mind. But you we saw. 428 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,400 They also ran 70 plays a game for two weeks straight. 429 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:09,440 So that's that's a lot that they they ran, they ran second most 430 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,920 plays of any offense in the last two weeks. 431 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,360 So like that's a big part of the, the production. 432 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800 But some of that it could just be him keeping them on the field 433 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,280 on on 3rd down convertible, right? 434 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,600 We we did see extended Jacoby Brissett play last year, though, 435 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,320 for the Patriots, and it was terrible. 436 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,640 Now, I don't know how much of that was the Patriots because 437 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,760 they were yeah, last year too. But I. 438 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,360 Yeah, I know he's going to turn back into a pumpkin, like no 439 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:44,560 doubt. I just, I, I think it's still 440 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:51,560 the correct framing in that the Jacoby percent efficiency is 441 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,280 outstanding. Yeah, it's not, it's not that 442 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,080 he's just playing like at a decent level and decent looks so 443 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,520 much better than Kyler Murray. No, he's playing really, really, 444 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,800 really well That that is part of the difference and and and part 445 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,680 of what's causing the the difference would be so stark is 446 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,880 him playing as well. Yeah, that's that's well put. 447 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,600 I mean, you can see where he's sitting here on the chart. 448 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,320 He's right around 8 adjusted yards per attempt. 449 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,680 That's in line with Josh Allen, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, 450 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,560 Pat Mahomes. Like you're not wrong. 451 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,160 He's he's been playing well these last couple games. 452 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,240 And then the last question I have about all these benched 453 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,240 quarterbacks of all of them who were benched, do you believe 454 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,960 that any of them can come back to being fantasy relevant or 455 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,920 being a quarterback where their teams are going to be happy to 456 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,320 start them in 2026? Or is this just the beginning of 457 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:56,280 the end for all of these guys? So probably probably the one 458 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,520 with the most amount of rope is is Kyler Murray. 459 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,120 But. Really. 460 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:09,360 I think so. I mean, JJ McCarthy has in the 461 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:14,840 2026 JJ McCarthy because it's his second year in the league, 462 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:19,640 our third year in the league. I guess that that has an 463 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:26,600 argument, but he just just been genuinely terrible, like truly, 464 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,960 truly bad. And I think I think they've kind 465 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,680 of realized that. So like he has the most where he 466 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:40,120 has to just like significantly, significantly improve like and I 467 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,320 don't I don't I guess I don't see how that happens in the NFL, 468 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,120 like how that level, the level of improvement that's needed. 469 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,240 I think the Cardinals, they have so much money in Kyler. 470 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,720 He's been starting for them for so long. 471 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:01,480 I think that's like kind of hard to move on from, but it depends 472 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,080 it, it, it depends on, on the second-half of the year. 473 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,680 Like if, if he's just continuing to get outplayed by Jacoby 474 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,480 percent, then that's a different story. 475 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,920 I, I'm, I'm not, I'm not as fully bought into that being 476 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:22,440 like what's going to happen? Like, I know he, he like, to me, 477 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,280 Kyler Murray is like a flawed quarterback who does have some 478 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,880 like good skills. Like he is a good playmaker. 479 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,480 And he, like I said, he does, he does make plays. 480 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,080 And but then there's another part of my head where it's like, 481 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,240 is it like the Russell Wilson trajectory where like offenses 482 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:50,800 are set up to stop that kind of quarterback And then not that 483 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,080 he's thrown moon balls, but he like needs to scramble to make 484 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,280 plays. It is, is that what? 485 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,120 And maybe he's getting older now. 486 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,040 I don't it's I'm not I'm not as married to the idea that he's 487 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:11,120 like terrible and we're just going to see terrible play. 488 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,680 I I guess for Kyler, I just, I need to see it a little bit more 489 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,480 before I know, like he's like Bryce Young bad. 490 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,760 Yeah, I guess for me, it's like it's pretty clear on Kyler that 491 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,760 like that's not it's not going to be enough to to win you a 492 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,240 championship or anything like that where there's a lot of guys 493 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,640 where they are good enough to to just run the offense around. 494 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,920 And like you can if if you got all the pieces around them, like 495 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,440 it could work. But I feel like with Kyler, 496 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,200 we're kind of like at the end of the line here or it's like, this 497 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,400 is not this isn't going to work going forward. 498 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,080 And I feel like the Cardinals are getting close to there. 499 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,880 My my answer was gonna be JJ McCarthy purely from the he's 500 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,440 got the small sample size of all these guys. 501 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Like, it could easily just be something where we watched a 502 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,120 couple of his worst games. You know, it's this is the worst 503 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,400 he's gonna be and he bounces back from there. 504 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,640 I don't think he's gonna be very good. 505 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,720 You know, if you made me bet money on it, I would say the 506 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,320 most likely outcome is he stinks and he's not a starter in the 507 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,720 league in two years. But he's the one where I think 508 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,240 the probability is the highest that of all of these guys. 509 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,200 He bounces back the. Excuse you make for him is that 510 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,920 he just had his child born and maybe he didn't he was staying 511 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,600 up too late or he's doing too much like waking up with the 512 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,480 baby. Yeah, that that that feels 513 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:45,640 pretty weak to me as a as a as a new father Like I, I wouldn't 514 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,440 accept it for myself and my own job. 515 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,840 Not that. Not that there's a comparison 516 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,080 between me and no. No sympathy for Draco. 517 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:59,360 Damn, it's called. Bland, but how do I say it? 518 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:05,680 But like, that's the most thing that like something that widens 519 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,280 the range of outcomes. I'd like. 520 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,560 Maybe he is actually just much better than that. 521 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Is it? It's it's a possibility. 522 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,440 Yeah, Yeah, that's fair. OK. 523 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,400 I think we've, we've spent enough time on the bench guy on 524 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,600 guys that we're saying are are likely not relevant anymore. 525 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,840 I did want to talk about some other ugly quarterback play 526 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,520 though. These are guys that I think 527 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,080 either deserve to be benched or are they definitely should be 528 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:40,680 benched in your fantasy leagues. My my list, you know, not 529 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,120 exhausted, but these guys all have been playing bad and and 530 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,920 had bad games here in week 7. Trevor Lawrence just looked 531 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,480 terrible per per usual, Like I'm I've had enough of the Trevor 532 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,400 Lawrence experience. We can just be done with that 533 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,560 one to. I mean, sure that it was a 534 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,320 terrible weather game, but you know, he's bad enough that he 535 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:07,000 gets benched in this game. Boe Nix I I know that we may 536 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,600 have some people that are very upset about me saying that bonex 537 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,080 played bad after he drops a 40 burger for fantasy, but he was 538 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,000 atrocious in this game Like he didn't get a ton of help from 539 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,680 his receivers. There were lots of drops, but he 540 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,520 was so, so bad to start this game like I, I thought Bonex was 541 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,600 deserving of being benched. You know, at at the half. 542 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,800 I was like, I wonder if they'll make a change at half time 543 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,920 because it was that bad. Gino also been pretty terrible. 544 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,920 I mean, I don't know, the the Raiders seemed like dead in the 545 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,080 water from I mean, before, before the half, it seemed like 546 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,560 it was just like the time to phone it in for the Raiders. 547 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,960 And then Cam Ward just puts together one decent drive and 548 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,560 it's not even really a drive. It's puts together one really 549 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:03,960 sick throw to Jamiro DK and then after that just puts up one of 550 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,200 the most Cam Ward games that you're gonna see. 551 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,480 It was it was bad. If you want the Cam ward 552 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,360 experience, though, you go back and watch this game. 553 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,000 This is everything you need to know about Cam ward all 554 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,880 encapsulated in one game where it's like, holy shit, what a 555 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,719 ball to Tamir adike like huge, huge arm talent and then after 556 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,000 that it's like, oh, that was a terrible throw. 557 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,360 Oh God, what what was that? But wait, why are you fumbling 558 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,840 that? Why did you just drop the ball 559 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,679 for no explicable reason? Oh my God, it's a scooping 560 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,920 score. Like it's just the the thing 561 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,280 that we have joked about a lot when we were, you know, doing 562 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,360 rankings this offseason is so many of the like film grinders 563 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,800 and the ball knowers, You know, the people, the prospect 564 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,800 evaluators out there would always describe Cam Ward. 565 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,600 He's so calm in the pocket. Gosh, he's just so calm. 566 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:01,360 He really nothing rattles him. And I my take was that, yeah, 567 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,880 'cause he doesn't know what the fuck he's looking. 568 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,640 He doesn't know to be terrified. Like he, he was like a deer in 569 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,280 the headlights. Like he's just, wow, what a calm 570 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,760 deer standing in the, in the middle of the road as I barrel 571 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,120 towards it at 60 miles an hour, you know, about to end its life. 572 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,000 That's what the Cam Ward experience feels like for me. 573 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,720 Like what a calm deer standing in my headlights. 574 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,160 But anyway, do you have anything to add about these should be 575 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:33,560 benched candidates? No, I don't think so. 576 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,160 I'm just sorry, I'm just looking at your list again and I, I, I 577 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,680 mean, I think you, you're saying Bone Nick should be benched for 578 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,480 reality. I, I don't, I don't think he's 579 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,120 going to be benched for reality and I think. 580 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,320 Offense is super limited man. I don't have you caught a full 581 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,880 Broncos game from cover to cover. 582 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,720 Have I? No, no. 583 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,360 Because they don't, they're, they're running like a Mickey 584 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,880 Mouse offense. It's not a, it's not like a full 585 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,200 big boy offense. It's like, all right, we've got 586 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,600 a all right, it's time to roll Bo Nicks out. 587 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,560 An offense. I mean, like Drew Brees ran like 588 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,560 a a big boy offense, you know, like he's able to stand there in 589 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,680 the pocket and progress through his reads. 590 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,160 Like, dude, the what they're doing with Bo Nicks is like, all 591 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,080 right, everything is OK, quick roll out of the pocket. 592 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,560 We're going to boot you OK, We're going to quick throw 593 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,320 behind the line of scrimmage. OK, now we're going to do a 594 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,240 little swing pass behind the line of scrimmage. 595 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,000 There's just like, and then when he is actually passing 596 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,840 downfield, like the the play that set up the game-winning 597 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,240 field goal, he's not even throwing it to Marvin Mims on 598 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:49,360 that play, by the way. He's throwing it to Cortland 599 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,400 Sutton. Go watch that play again. 600 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,080 The play that is like the Oh my gosh, Bo Nicks led the Broncos 601 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,080 down to win the game. What a comeback. 602 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,200 Wasn't even who he was throwing to. 603 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,240 It was an accident. He accidentally completes the 604 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:07,960 pass like to not his target. And there's multiple plays like 605 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,120 that in this game where you get the deflected touchdown. 606 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,720 Like there's there's just a lot where this game, obviously the 607 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,200 boxing. I I, I get, I get that he he 608 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,320 might not be very I I'm not arguing that he's like a 609 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,840 fantastic player. I just, I don't think that a 610 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:32,400 team that is like winning with a quarterback on their rookie 611 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,680 contract like that, that to me those aren't like the 612 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,040 fundamentals that lead two way at quarterback benching. 613 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,840 No, he's I, I don't think he's actually in danger of getting 614 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,400 benched, but I, I will tell you if if he put together. 615 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,440 That's the that's the only thing I'm pushing back on. 616 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,000 Yeah, if he put together another game that looked like the first 617 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,920 3/4 of this game against the Giants, they would have to have 618 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,080 a come to Jesus like it. It was that atrocious. 619 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,560 It was really, really bad the the last quarterback note that I 620 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,240 had here. I thought Caleb looked pretty 621 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:15,360 bad against the Saints here. I I put in the notes that a lot 622 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,640 of his numbers are just being kept afloat from the game 623 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,040 against the Cowboys. He only has one other multi 624 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,000 touchdown game other than the Cowboys game. 625 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,120 All other games are either zero or one touchdown. 626 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,720 He only has two games with more than 20 completions. 627 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,800 And then he's also near the very top as far as turnover worthy 628 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,040 plays. I think he's 7th in the league 629 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,720 in turnover Worthy plays in pressure to sack rate. 630 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,800 He's in the bottom half of the league. 631 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,320 You know, it's not, it's not great. 632 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,280 He's sitting at a 15% pressure to sack rate. 633 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,960 That's pretty close to average. Right right around like Spencer 634 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,000 Rattler, you know? Not as close to average though. 635 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,040 Yeah. A lot of these guys are around 636 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,800 15%. Yeah, it's. 637 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,800 In between? Like in between 12 to 18% is 638 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,160 like, yeah. I, I would just say I think a 639 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:17,080 lot more of that is Caleb fault then I, I, I think that he is 640 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,760 not getting pressured anywhere near as much as these other guys 641 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,960 are getting pressured because his time to throw is the highest 642 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,880 of the league. It's 3.23 seconds. 643 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,320 He's also that that's he's one of those guys who who their 644 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,360 style is. It leads to a higher time to 645 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,240 throw. Yeah, I just those guys that 646 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:41,240 have that higher time to throw, like do good stuff with it and 647 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,960 Caleb is not really like all that it's leading to for Caleb 648 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,680 is yes, he's got that higher A dot. 649 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,000 That's typical with those guys that have the higher time to 650 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,560 throw. For example, like Jalen Hurts, 651 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,160 second highest time to throw in the league right there with 652 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,760 Caleb, 9.2 A dot versus 8.6. Justin Fields, Drake May you 653 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,040 know, Josh Allen, Jaden Daniels, all those guys in that same 654 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,800 ballpark. The big difference is Caleb has 655 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,560 like double the turnover worthy play rate that these other guys 656 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,200 do. And so I don't know for me, I 657 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,400 and when you look at the game by game too, like it's really, it's 658 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,800 really not great. For example, pressure to sack 659 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,640 rate artificially depressed by Dallas where he has 0% pressure 660 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,960 to sack rate. Don't even know if he's at all 661 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,360 pressured in that game, but then he's got other games where 662 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,120 against Detroit, 40% pressure to sack rate against Washington, 663 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,960 who just showed us they had absolutely no defense against 664 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,640 the Cowboys like looked terrible, 21% pressure to sack 665 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,600 rate. So and then. 666 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,840 Yeah, I mean, I, I just, I, I feel like what you're saying is, 667 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,960 and it's where it comes to the pressure to sack. 668 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,360 If you ignore his best one and then focus on his two worst, 669 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,320 he's really bad. I mean what if I just focus on 670 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,520 his other 6? Like, you know, just just the 671 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,000 the one where he gets the freebie against the the defence 672 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,720 du jour to target in the league like every other. 673 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:17,040 Game utter down, utter down the 40 and the 21. 674 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,080 He's got 10 percent, 10% and 7.7%. 675 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,640 And then Dallas says that's the one where he, he, I think he 676 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:31,280 didn't, he didn't take a sack. So like, I feel like the 15% is, 677 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,560 is like that's pretty representative of, of what a an 678 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,320 average should be. Like. 679 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,960 I don't feel like it's, it's like Dallas is, is like the 680 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,320 outlier. And then those other two are 681 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,720 like, no, that those are the truth. 682 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,960 I. Definitely feel like Dallas is 683 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:55,520 the outlier given that he's got like 50% higher yards for a 10 684 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,360 then four dust. Down. 685 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,400 Yeah, I, I don't know, I, I would, I would expect that as 686 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,840 the season goes on, he's going to be a lot closer to like the 687 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,400 20% pressure to sack rate than he is the 15% pressure to sack 688 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,960 rate. I would expect that to be headed 689 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,320 in the wrong direction. You know, he still has to play 690 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,360 the Packers twice. I I think that that's not going 691 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,960 to go well for him. He's going to play the Vikings 692 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,600 again, where I would expect that to also not be a friendly match 693 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:30,280 up for him in that regard. He's just he's a downfield 694 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,880 passer that doesn't actually turn in the big time throws at 695 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,840 the rate that you would need for it to be worth it given the 696 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,200 turnover worthy plays. It's just like, it's like the 697 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,960 the bad side of being a gunslinger. 698 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:48,960 I, I, I don't know, I'm like thoroughly unimpressed so far. 699 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,240 Like for example, if you have a a season long league, would you 700 00:42:54,240 --> 00:43:00,240 rather have Caleb Williams going forward or do you want Mac? 701 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:06,280 Jones, Kayla Williams. I think I'm Mac Jones. 702 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,440 Like straight up, I would just start Mac Jones over Caleb 703 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,240 Williams. Yeah, I think where I disagree 704 00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:17,440 is you do get decent rushing from Kayla Williams. 705 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,800 You don't have the prospect he. Hasn't really been rushed. 706 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,400 He only rushed like the first two weeks. 707 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,840 I want to say though, other than that, it really hasn't been 708 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,960 much. Yeah, it really was just the 709 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,480 first two weeks. Otherwise, he's totaled 21 710 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,200 rushing yards over the last four games. 711 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,440 So he's he's not, he's averaging 5 rushing yards a game. 712 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,040 That's that. That's a fair and common. 713 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,680 But then again, I, I, I don't think it's correct to say, hey, 714 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,840 let, let's take out the good ones. 715 00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,440 I mean, that's including the Dow. 716 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,160 I mean, really all of his rushing production came in week 717 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:09,160 one against Minnesota, where I, I would assume that a big part 718 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,640 of that was, you know, their high blitz rate, high pressure 719 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,320 rate, and he's using that to get out of the pocket. 720 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,600 And that's, you know, not to take anything away from him. 721 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,160 Like, good. That's what you should dude, you 722 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,760 know, like don't, don't stand in there and take the sacks. 723 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,960 That's, that's what you would want from him. 724 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,680 And he did play good in that first week until he melted down 725 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,760 at the end of the game. But yeah, I, I don't know, I, 726 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,160 I'm pretty underwhelmed there. I, I just think where he sits on 727 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,880 the chart currently, I, I would expect his adjusted yards per 728 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,520 attempt to fall a little bit. I, I basically, if you want me 729 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,560 to, to summarize it, Caleb Williams is going to be a bottom 730 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,720 left quadrant quarterback by the end of the season. 731 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:58,440 I feel pretty good about that. OK, I I I think that he's 732 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:04,480 probably a little bit below average in terms of like NFL 733 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,960 starter quality. But they do have a they do have 734 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,480 the the offense. It has been running pretty good, 735 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:15,960 pretty strong. And his profile, even if he's 736 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,640 not, maybe he's the the chairman of the archetype, but his 737 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,360 profile is good where he's like you're saying he's a good 738 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,680 singer. So like that that is going to 739 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,720 leave the fantasy points. I I, I, I don't I don't want to 740 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:35,320 lose sight of that. Like even if even if he's not 741 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:40,960 like at one of the top NFL. Yeah, I just, I I think we're 742 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,120 going to see the attempts continue to trend down like they 743 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,760 have been because they seem like they feel pretty good about 744 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,040 their run game. You know, Swift has been doing 745 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,840 well lately. They're getting the non guy more 746 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,200 involved and I think it's going to just kind of change into a 747 00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:00,000 hide Caleb, like get this. I think the offense is going to 748 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,680 end up looking a lot more like the, you know, low pass attempt 749 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,440 lions when when they were not passing as much and they were 750 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,120 leaning on the run game. I think they were just trying to 751 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,960 find their identity early in the season. 752 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:14,600 But like. They're the Saints. 753 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:23,720 They had 26 pass attempts and watched commanders 29, Vegas 37. 754 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,280 Like I that that that that's just not striking me as a yeah, 755 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,240 hide the quarterback offense like 26 when when you kind of 756 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:41,480 have the game well, like well in control a lot along for long 757 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,640 stretches of it. Like, I don't know that that 758 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,800 that that doesn't strike me as a hide the quarterback offense. 759 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,760 I mean, did they, did they have it Well in control for the 760 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,040 majority of the game is reasonably close like the same. 761 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,400 There were stretches where where there was reasonably close, 762 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,680 yeah. Yeah. 763 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,720 Well, I, I think we've probably spent enough time on the the 764 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,920 quarterback chart. We're 45 minutes in. 765 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,760 Let's let's move on to running backs here. 766 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:29,890 All right. So your first top five running 767 00:47:29,890 --> 00:47:34,450 backs by snaps and usage top five for each week given a 768 00:47:34,610 --> 00:47:38,480 neutral. So your question is like Abdid, 769 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:45,160 Jon and Taylor, CMC, echang, Bijan and then Jovante, it is at 770 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,960 the top five, I think it is. I think there's one we've got to 771 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,160 insert there, but otherwise I think that's it. 772 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,360 I, I think Gibbs is the only one where, oh true, without the 773 00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,960 elite role. He's got the crazy efficiency, 774 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,160 you know, to the, to the point where I've got my last, you 775 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,440 know, one of my final eliminator teams that's trying to survive. 776 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,520 It's a crazy team. It has CMCJTJSN, Trey McBride 777 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,920 like it, it's got, you know, it's so, so stacked. 778 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,360 I put up a ton of points this week. 779 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,240 I'm thinking I'm safe. I'm going into Monday night. 780 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,440 All I'm fading is Gibbs. I just need Gibbs to score under 781 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,320 28 or something like that. And gosh darn it, he went out 782 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,480 there and did it and and buried that super team of mine. 783 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,280 So that was the last eliminated team of mine just totally dead 784 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,720 and buried courtesy of Jameer Gibbs, who who definitely 785 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:47,760 belongs in that upper echelon. But other than Gibbs, I do think 786 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,800 it's it's kind of funny when running back really does just 787 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,040 come down to, hey, do you get all the volume? 788 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,840 If so, you're the best fantasy running back. 789 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,440 Yeah, and for Giovante as well, what's really helping him is the 790 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,360 Cowboys offense is so good. The offense is insane. 791 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,120 He he gets a shot of the. Touchdown every week he's 792 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,320 getting inside the five, He's getting like goal line calories. 793 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,800 He's getting like heavily targeted 10 targets in the last 794 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,840 two weeks. He had a really good run this 795 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,920 week too. Like the, you know, we, we, we 796 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,280 need to capitulate on Giovante Williams. 797 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,360 I know we we probably already have, but man, that. 798 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,080 In in our minds, we did. I don't know if we, like 799 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,520 actually acknowledged it. No, yeah, he's he's just 800 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,720 straight up been good this year. Quite unfortunate for people who 801 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:41,200 didn't draft like Annie Juvante Williams. 802 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,960 So that's that's unfortunate. But you know, there, there's 803 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,440 only so many years where a guy can look like the worst running 804 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,560 back in the league and you keep clicking in. 805 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:59,400 So the next note I had on running backs, a guy who is up 806 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,160 there as far as his total snapse in usage, you can actually see 807 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,440 he's got the third longest bar on the chart. 808 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,280 That's Saquon Barkley. He is doing quite a bit of pass 809 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:15,640 blocking out there, but Saquon's efficiency has just gone in the 810 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:20,320 absolute toilet this season. And in my notes, I titled this 811 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,720 the New York Giantsification of the Philadelphia Eagles, Saquon 812 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:28,800 Barkley, because this is the Saquon that we got when he was 813 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,520 with the Giants, you know, like 3-3 yards of carry. 814 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,720 Not super involved in the passing game. 815 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:38,200 He, he was it when he was putting up good fantasy scores 816 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,440 this season, it was on the back of being involved in the passing 817 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,920 game, you know, getting more receiving work. 818 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,480 But I think that's fragile. You know, we, we saw last year, 819 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,080 he's not going to be super involved there. 820 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,560 I I don't think it's going to be something where you can bank on 821 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,080 it every single week going forward. 822 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,440 They get bigsby involved in the first quarter of this game. 823 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,960 So I I don't know, but the efficiency just hasn't been 824 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:07,840 there for Barclay this season. I mean, do you do you think that 825 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,080 there's still time for him to turn it around? 826 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,880 Is this just, hey, this is the volatility that you get. 827 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,440 This is, you know, it's a living and dying by the efficiency. 828 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,880 You know this is what you get or. 829 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,800 Yeah. So obviously the the big thing 830 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,560 you had, I think I remember a lot of games for Saquon last 831 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,080 year where you're going into the third quarter or the fourth 832 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:35,560 quarter and he's gotten 15 carries for 45 yards, 3 yards 833 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,440 per attempt. And then he breaks the 60 yard 834 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,800 touchdown. And then all you're go, OK, he's 835 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,680 having a decent day. And then it's like, oh shit, he 836 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,640 broke another 70 yard touchdown. And then it's like that was the 837 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,680 great Saquon Barkley week. And so we obviously we haven't 838 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,680 gotten those long breakaway touchdown. 839 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:03,560 So I'm looking at it here. He's gotten 69 breakaway yards 840 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,680 so far this year. He had last year he had and 841 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,840 that's that's kind of carries that go beyond 15 yards. 842 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:23,680 Last year he had 1107 breakaway yards, so you're like halfway 843 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,360 through. We're seven games in and he's 844 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:32,360 what, like 120th so. Yeah, it's a pretty big 845 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,880 difference. That that's, that's, that's 846 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,200 what's driving the, the lack of efficiency. 847 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:43,960 And then he has, what is it 14 force missed tackles and so far 848 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:49,840 this year versus 80 last year. So he's not breaking tackles as 849 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:55,200 frequently and he's not, he's not making the big explosive 850 00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,200 runs when he does. How much is that? 851 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,640 How much of that is stuff that we can't see? 852 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:09,040 Honestly, I don't know. But I agree. 853 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,720 I I tend to lean on on what you said more, which is like, hey, 854 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:15,360 this is a lot closer. So what we got earlier in his 855 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,800 career or sorry, not earlier later career giants. 856 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:26,320 So I I I probably have on the side of that, that this is the 857 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,840 sake 1 Berkeley going forward than anything else. 858 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,440 Yeah, yeah, I I think that's a good, good way to summarize it. 859 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,200 The next note I had was does anything change for Alvin Kamara 860 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,920 here with the Kendra ACL tear? Kendra is starting to or was 861 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,960 starting to eat into the rushing work a little bit for Kamara. 862 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,120 Do you think this is a boost for Kamara or do they now just 863 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,600 involve Devin Neil or someone else more? 864 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,600 So I did see Devin Neil out there a lot. 865 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,800 So Devin Neil, Devin Neil in in a week 7, he's not out there a 866 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,640 lot more. Devin Neil played two snaps in 867 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,200 Week 7. So did anybody else? 868 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,840 So I guess I thought the question, is there anybody else 869 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:20,040 play or was it just the was it just the Alvin Kamara show? 870 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:36,710 So I think it was just the yeah. So Alvin Kamara played an 87% 871 00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:42,000 snap rate and Devin Neil barely played. 872 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:49,760 So they it it they probably I I I don't know, but I don't think 873 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,560 it's Devin Neil time. Maybe we get that later in the 874 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,800 year, but probably massive deuce to Elephant Kamara where he goes 875 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:03,760 from 6040 head of the committee guy to now he's he's a locked 876 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,160 inserter is what I'd say. Yeah, unfortunately the Saints 877 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:13,160 don't get a because I, I think that this is like a fleeting 878 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,040 thing, right? Like they're not going to go out 879 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,280 there and like load Kamara up every game for the rest of the 880 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,400 season. You're probably going to get it 881 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,080 for a little bit until someone can earn a little of that work 882 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,000 back from him, right? But unfortunately, I don't 883 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,000 really think we get a good opportunity to capitalize on 884 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,720 that because his match up this next week is against the Bucks, 885 00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:37,200 who have a very strong run defense. 886 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,440 Although it didn't really seem to stop Jameer Gibbs. 887 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,440 Granted, I do think there's a little bit of a difference 888 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,200 between Jameer Gibbs and Alvin Kamara at this point in their 889 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:47,480 careers. Right. 890 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,920 And then after that you get the Rams. 891 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:57,200 So, yeah, I don't I don't think you it seems seems difficult to 892 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,760 actually capitalize on this opportunity. 893 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,240 The other note that I had where this could be 1, where you we 894 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,200 could possibly get ahead of a trend. 895 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,200 Chase Brown, who previously on this show we had Foley left for 896 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,360 dead, finally has an efficient rushing day with the help of Joe 897 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,720 Flacco opening up the offense a little bit more. 898 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,080 Chase Brown goes for over 100 yards. 899 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,120 Not a great fantasy day because it's just rushing yards. 900 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,600 There's I don't think he logs a single reception. 901 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,640 In fact I believe if I remember correctly he had a pretty bad 902 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,880 drop on one. So I. 903 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,640 Think 4 targets. Yeah, he has 0 receptions 904 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:44,080 though, correct? So Joe Flacco tried to get him 905 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,280 involved, but James Brown wasn't. 906 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:56,960 He wasn't having it and is this is so I mean, Chase Brown is 907 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,160 fast. So it doesn't surprise me that 908 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:06,000 you get you get some games where he has some explosive runs and I 909 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,080 get to me, it's like a question of like, how much do you buy 910 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,160 into the Joe Flacco LED resurgence? 911 00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:17,240 How much of it is like I've seen this meme, It's not a meme, but 912 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,680 like a commonly tank, said Tang on Twitter. 913 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,360 Whereas the Steelers defense, the cover tree that they run, 914 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,920 it's, it's, it hasn't changed in like 10 years. 915 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,880 And like new rookies, when they, when they come in, they struggle 916 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,400 against it. But the guys who have played 917 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,920 against the same defense forever, they shred it. 918 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,000 And that's what happened with with Joe Flacco. 919 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,520 I guess I, I kind of buy some of that it like it, it makes it, it 920 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,360 makes sense to me. And then how much do you buy the 921 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,680 Joe Flacco resurgence? I don't know, like I, I, I think 922 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,520 you, you're probably, you'll probably get a lot closer to a 923 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,320 league average offense than we were before where it was just 924 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,920 like completely dysfunctional and now it it might be somewhat 925 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,280 functional. And so there's value in the 926 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:18,440 offense again. Chase Brown has like what, 6065% 927 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:26,040 of the six? Let me one second as I look this 928 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,520 up like what what's what's what's his what was his share on 929 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,000 on Thursday night? So Joe flat. 930 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:40,000 So he's like 60 to 65% of that. I have a somewhat functional 931 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,960 offense. I mean you're still like way 932 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,440 you're down really bad on your second two tree turn price like 933 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,720 you're down really, really bad just because he he's he's losing 934 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:58,960 that receiving work to P Ryan. And then it's like, oh, it it 935 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,280 like what you paid for. It was like one of the most 936 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,720 efficient, productive offenses in the league and they were 937 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,240 like, well, it's it's it's going to be closer to league average 938 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,680 than it is going to be the worst. 939 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,960 And I, I, I think, I think you get more games like this from 940 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,240 Chase Brown where it's like semi usable and, and some will be 941 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,360 usable than before. Whereas before it was like 942 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,040 you're getting five points like, and, and you're going to like be 943 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,040 what you might cry, but like, that's what you're going to get. 944 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,480 That's how I put. It yeah, yeah, P Ryan gets 7 945 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:39,040 carries to Chase Brown's 11, so he, he's definitely still 946 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,040 getting the majority of the rushing work. 947 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,760 But P Ryan is has crept up a good bit there to where it's not 948 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,560 just all the Chase Brown show. And then I pulled up the Bengals 949 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,280 schedule here. They get The Jets next week, so 950 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:58,880 that should be decent. Then they get the Bengals in 951 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,240 there or they get the Bears in their back to the Steelers 952 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,520 again. Then it's Patriots who have a a 953 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,200 pretty tough run D. So yeah, I'm not, I'm not 954 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,600 feeling terribly bullish on Chase Brown going forward, but 955 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,560 he's probably more usable than he was prior to the Joe Flacco 956 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,880 acquisition. OK, last running back chart note 957 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:27,840 that I had so we get DeAndre Swift continues to perform 958 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,200 really well for the Bears. Bears running game is actually 959 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,320 the thing that wins this game for them. 960 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,400 Swift super effective. Monongai also in the mix and 961 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,320 pretty effective. And so that brings me to a 962 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,920 rookie running back rest of season question. 963 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,120 Would you rather have Kyle Menon, Guy RJ Harvey or Trayvon 964 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,040 Henderson on a best ball team rest of season? 965 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,600 At this point, you you probably you probably prefer Menong guy 966 01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,520 like where he's got like a very real role, like he had Turkey in 967 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,760 rush attempts. He had a carry inside the five 968 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:10,000 two targets like you. You'd be you'd be crying ugly 969 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,520 tears if you got that game for Rare for Trayvon Henderson going 970 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,920 forward. Yeah, No, I I do think that rest 971 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,640 of the season Monongai probably carries more value. 972 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,200 The ceiling for Monongai is obviously not so. 973 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,600 Great. It's it's not very good though. 974 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,920 It it requires a swift injury, he's not going to take the job 975 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,280 from him. So if he's been playing well and 976 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,960 even then, like he's still Kyle Monongai. 977 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:43,760 So it's just like volume. But yeah, it's, I, I just think 978 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,040 that happens so much more often than RJ Harvey or Trayvon 979 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,040 Henderson becoming things. And that's not to say it's 980 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,000 impossible. It's just it's gotten a lot less 981 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,800 likely for those guys to do anything usable for fantasy 982 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,440 football. You know, we're, we're seven 983 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,000 weeks into the season. There's still a lot of season 984 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,880 left. But I mean, Trayvon Henderson's 985 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,960 going backwards as far as his likelihood to break out. 986 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,720 You know, it's it's been getting worse week over week the last 987 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,520 few weeks. Yeah. 988 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,800 And then? Harvey, I, I had the big defense 989 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,680 of him and I still believe in a lot of that defense, but at, at, 990 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:26,040 at a certain point, the coach's stubbornness to not play him and 991 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,440 it, it kind of grinds you down. Yeah. 992 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,560 I mean, we we talked about this off off air about Trayvon 993 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,400 Henderson where we did think it was. 994 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,640 We both thought it was crazy that people were willing to 995 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,640 write him off. I mean, like, yeah, fantasy 996 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,520 analysts that were apologizing for recommending Trayvon 997 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,120 Henderson, they're like, oh, he's a he's a bust. 998 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,000 I'm sorry I ever recommended him. 999 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,000 Right. That's great. 1000 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,240 Like that's a little crazy. He was an incredible prospect 1001 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,920 profile. He gets great draft capital, 1002 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,600 goes to a team way limited competition where you're 1003 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,960 expecting an improvement for the offense. 1004 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,720 Like he was, you know, fantastic process pick. 1005 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,080 And then also he's not the season isn't over. 1006 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,000 We still have 11 weeks left in the NFL season. 1007 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,920 And so I I said to you, you know, I don't think he's a bust 1008 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,040 yet. But like my prior of Trayvon 1009 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,440 Henderson being bad before the season was like, maybe there's a 1010 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,560 10% chance that this guy's bad. You know, otherwise he's 1011 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:34,720 probably a useful NFL starter to potentially a very good NFL 1012 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,840 starter. You know, 10% chance he's bad. 1013 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,760 Well, last week I said, I mean, yeah, I've certainly adjusted my 1014 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,240 prior. Now, like probability that he's 1015 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,200 actually bad is a lot higher. It's probably like all the way 1016 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,320 up to 20% now. Because if you have a prior, you 1017 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,720 don't just totally throw it out. You know, you incorporate the 1018 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,840 new evidence that you have. You don't just say, well, 1019 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,560 Trayvon Henderson has done nothing so far. 1020 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,160 So clearly he stinks. It's like, well, no, I have 1021 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,400 pretty good reason to believe that this guy is a good football 1022 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,680 player. You know, was going blow for 1023 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,640 blow with quinch on Judkins in college, who we've seen 1024 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,720 absolutely tear up the NFL. So, you know, there's there's 1025 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:20,320 reason to believe he's good, but your confidence in him not being 1026 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,680 bad should be getting lower and lower each week. 1027 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,240 And I think that's that's kind of where at least that's where I 1028 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,120 am. I think that's where you are now 1029 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,400 as well, where, you know, now my probability that Treveon 1030 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,520 Henderson is bad is, is probably up to like 30%. 1031 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,920 And I don't think it, it can't really get much higher than 50%, 1032 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,200 you know, because the profile is just so strong. 1033 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,560 Like it's, yeah, rare that a profile that's that strong would 1034 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,640 be best. Changing for me, it's just I 1035 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,840 maybe I'm just learning a little bit more about Mike Grable where 1036 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:59,600 you look at how he handled that Derrick Henry, where he had Dion 1037 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,760 Lewis playing ahead of him, like deep into Derrick Henry's 1038 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,840 career, where like I, I, I don't, I don't know, like given 1039 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,760 what we know about Derrick Henry now, like that was just like on 1040 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,320 Fatima decision. How does it take them so long to 1041 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:22,280 to play Derrick Henry? It's like with with some, with 1042 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,320 with somebody's coaching profile being like that. 1043 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,800 It's kind of like a, well, there's a phrase like the the 1044 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,600 market can be wrong longer than you can say Sullivans. 1045 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:39,200 And it feels like Mike Gray will can keep Henderson on the bench 1046 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,320 longer than I can stay patient, That that's kind of how I feel 1047 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,160 about it. I think that's well put to put 1048 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,920 a, to put a cap on it. The Derrick Henry stuff, I don't 1049 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,840 know if you remember this, but around I want to say it was like 1050 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,760 the year that he finally broke out. 1051 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:59,680 Like after that he wrote, I think it was he wrote a players 1052 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:04,320 Tribune article or or some some article came out where I believe 1053 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,560 is Eric Dickerson had I can't remember. 1054 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,480 I I might be misattributing which NFL great running back 1055 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,760 talked to Derrick Henry, but Derrick Henry talks to, you 1056 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,360 know, I believe it's Eric Dickerson and Eric Dickerson 1057 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,160 basically tells him like, dude, like this is it for you, you, 1058 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,920 you better, it's shit or get off the pot time. 1059 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,360 Like you have all of the tools that you need to be great. 1060 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:35,160 But you know, you, you, you clearly are at fault for not 1061 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,400 being great to this point in your NFL career. 1062 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,840 Like there are things that you're not doing correctly. 1063 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,520 That is why you're not getting this opportunity. 1064 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,160 And Derrick Henry wrote that that was like the motivation 1065 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,440 that he needed to turn it up to 11 and go crazy and, and finally 1066 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,880 break out and that it did require additional work for him. 1067 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,480 And so I'm wondering, it's really easy to like hindsight be 1068 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,320 like, oh, Mike Vrabel, the idiot who didn't play Derrick Henry 1069 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,360 over Dionne Lewis. What a rube. 1070 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,200 But I think it's probably that it was more of a, you know, hey, 1071 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,600 it was just as much a Mike Vrabel problem as it was a 1072 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,600 Derrick Henry problem. Like Derrick Henry probably was 1073 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,600 also at fault for not getting played. 1074 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,680 And that's not to say that he couldn't have been great if he 1075 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,760 got his shit together sooner, but there probably were things 1076 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,840 that he wasn't doing well enough to earn that playing time. 1077 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,680 And I think that's the most likely explanation for Trayvon 1078 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,240 Henderson, where he very much could be an incredible talent 1079 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,800 who should be able to succeed, like even right now. 1080 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,880 But he probably is not doing enough things well or he's 1081 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,920 making enough mistakes. And some of it is stuff that's 1082 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,120 been pointed out by people that are grinding the film and 1083 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,320 saying, oh, look, he misses his assignment here. 1084 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,560 Or oh, like, he he doesn't read this run correctly. 1085 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,360 And, you know, there's a big lane here and he just misses it. 1086 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,400 And some of that stuff just is evident when you watch him, Like 1087 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,240 what what's going on in this play, you know? 1088 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,440 But I do think a lot of it is probably stuff where you need to 1089 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,200 be in the meeting room to actually know. 1090 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,520 Or it's like, oh, it looked like he did well on this play. 1091 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,200 Like it looks like he, you know, gets what's blocked for him. 1092 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,760 But actually like that wasn't that wasn't what they wanted him 1093 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,920 to do or they want him to execute slightly differently or 1094 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,240 what what have you, right. So I think there's enough that 1095 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,279 we just don't know where it's hard to say, oh, it's all a 1096 01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:29,640 player skill issue or it's all, you know, a coach being stubborn 1097 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,920 issue. I think it's probably a little 1098 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,479 bit of both. And as far as like how that's 1099 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,160 actionable for us going forward, I think there's a lot of 1100 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,359 volatility around the Trayvon Henderson production because 1101 01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:47,160 he's probably good, but he has to do something to actually be 1102 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,479 able to earn that opportunity to to be good on an NFL field. 1103 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,600 So I think that's where I'm at with it. 1104 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,040 But I think we can move on from running backs to to tight ends 1105 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,880 if you have the. Last thing, the last thing I 1106 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:09,279 wanted to note is that Vidal has had like a, a, a complete like 1107 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:12,960 workhorse profile where he's, well, not complete. 1108 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,800 He he's like 70% of the snaps in the last two weeks. 1109 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,920 He's getting getting like around 70%. 1110 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,760 Part of that was the Haskins injury this last week, by the 1111 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,680 way. Oh, true, but he, he, he, he was 1112 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:30,279 active this week, right? Yes, but he got injured so. 1113 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,920 Haskins, maybe? Maybe they're nursing Haskins. 1114 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,520 Yeah, they've they've already ruled Haskins out for Thursday 1115 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,200 as well, so. OK. 1116 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,160 I. OK, well, I guess Will Will 1117 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,240 Haskins is out. Yeah, Vidal. 1118 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,200 Vidal should have a massive workload on Thursday. 1119 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,720 Wouldn't at all surprise me if there's a new face in the 1120 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,320 Chargers running backroom, you know, two weeks from now, 1121 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,240 because I, I don't think that they're they're already thin. 1122 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,560 You know, I think they probably need someone else and they've 1123 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,040 already expressed that they want to add someone. 1124 01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:07,680 I think that the injury to Haskins is probably a catalyst 1125 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,360 that they need to just go pull the trigger on something so 1126 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:13,920 good. I think a good spot for Kamani 1127 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,520 Vidal this week because they're did. 1128 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,400 He come out of the Week 6 game Haskins. 1129 01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:21,160 Haskins. I thought he missed some snaps. 1130 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:26,640 OK, because like, Vidal dominated that game too. 1131 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:40,040 Yeah, let me look here. Yeah, he had decent snap count. 1132 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,080 I can't, I can't easily see if he left the game here, but his 1133 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,760 snap count was decent. But yeah, I I mean, Vidal seems 1134 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,600 like a great spot for Thursday night. 1135 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,840 He he should have it all to himself. 1136 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,600 I thought your Burchard Smith note was actually really good. 1137 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,800 He you mentioned he's got 9 targets in the last two weeks. 1138 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,920 A bunch of the carries came in garbage time. 1139 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,400 So yeah, I I don't know how much to read into the carries. 1140 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,600 Yeah, I don't want people to detract from the role though and 1141 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,120 say, oh, it was all garbage time. 1142 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:17,200 Like all the receiving work was when the game, well, the game 1143 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,720 was never competitive, but all the receiving work was with the 1144 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,960 starters. Is is what I'm trying to. 1145 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,280 So I think the Burchard Smith stuff has signal for sure. 1146 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,240 And they were happy to go to him when Kareem Hunt came out for a 1147 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,480 couple of plays as well. Yeah, I got a couple. 1148 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,640 Priorities down too. He's really exciting down the 1149 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,880 stretch. Not someone that I think you can 1150 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,880 really plug in and start just yet, but he's definitely a a 1151 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,680 stash. He's like a high priority stash 1152 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,400 on your bench. Yeah, yeah. 1153 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,520 And I, I, I, I have to start him this week with, with injuries 1154 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:54,240 and then the the week 8 by magedding. 1155 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,720 And I don't know, I don't know if that's like if that's 1156 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,360 recommended by everybody, but I think that there's worse 1157 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,920 desperation starts is how I put it. 1158 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,840 All right then, a lot of tight ends here. 1159 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:16,520 We're moving on to tight ends. So the note I had on McBride was 1160 01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,160 was still like, hey, they've ran 140 plays. 1161 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:29,120 That percent is playing insane. So the like obviously the 1162 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,040 McBride adput the last two weeks has been like fantastic. 1163 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,480 It's, it's probably not going to sustain that was it 25 to 30 1164 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,520 tight end premium points a game. And but very, I think you're 1165 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,800 seeing very clear signs of separation there where he he is 1166 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,080 starting to gap in terms of targets, he is starting to gap 1167 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,640 in terms of area yards on the season. 1168 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,120 Because even though got some there, there are some players 1169 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,400 that will kind of keep touch with him for two or three weeks 1170 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,920 at a time over the full season. Not, not not hope. 1171 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,000 Yeah, no, McBride. Turns out Kyler Murray was the 1172 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,680 problem all along. You just needed Jacoby Brissett 1173 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,880 to unlock him because he this this looks like last year. 1174 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,760 Trey McBride now you know where he's just absolutely target 1175 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,200 dominant. I mean, he, he already was 1176 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,920 target dominant. The production just wasn't 1177 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:27,840 really coming that much. But yeah, you you did note that 1178 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,160 the really high play count may have something to do with it. 1179 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:35,200 But it is nice to to see him being very productive finally 1180 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,800 and, and hopefully the Brissett can continue starting and keep 1181 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,280 that rolling because I I'm legitimately concerned that if 1182 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,760 Kyler comes back, we see it come back down to earth. 1183 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,440 The the other guy that I think is pretty exciting from a tight 1184 01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:53,920 end standpoint, you get the huge Irani Gadsden breakout and we've 1185 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,960 got to give you your flowers because you were on this a 1186 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,200 couple weeks ago and I was, I was a little hesitant. 1187 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,400 I wasn't sure if I bought it. And then after the show I looked 1188 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,960 into it more, drafted him a bunch of the dog bowl and he was 1189 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,920 he was absolutely V tight in to pick for the dog bowl. 1190 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,400 Unfortunately couldn't get any through there. 1191 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:17,000 But Gadsden was a great shout. He he looks like he's just fully 1192 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,760 broken out at this point. This is a out of the tube moment 1193 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,040 for Ronnie Gadsden, right? Yeah, definitely, definitely one 1194 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,120 of my best stock chasing calls ever. 1195 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:33,000 Feel good about that one where, hey, he's just going to run 80% 1196 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,120 of Herbert's routes consistently. 1197 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:43,720 He's getting like a 19 to 20% targets per run, 11 yard A dot 1198 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:49,640 at tight end. This this could like he's like 1199 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,920 one of those like he's a move tight end. 1200 01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:55,680 So I I don't know what he offers, like blocking or 1201 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,280 anything like that. So this could just totally be 1202 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,280 the the one year flash in the pan for godson. 1203 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,000 But what a great flash in the pan it is if that's the case. 1204 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,960 Yeah, I, I mentioned this when we talked about Herbert, but 1205 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:16,080 basically all of the Chargers pass catchers have pretty 1206 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,680 similar targets for route run. They're all within a couple 1207 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,480 percent, you know, one 2% of each other. 1208 01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:23,320 They're all like at basically 20. 1209 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:24,280 All at 20. Yeah. 1210 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:28,760 So it's really it's just hey, there will be weeks it the 1211 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,840 chargers are are like the if we're doing like NFL team 1212 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,520 archetypes for like what their weapons are for fantasy. 1213 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,720 The Packers are the Charmander to the chargers Charizard as far 1214 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,640 as pass catchers, because the Packers it's like, oh, I can't 1215 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,240 start any of these guys in in manage leagues, but they're OK 1216 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,440 for best ball because they're they're kind of underpriced for 1217 01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:51,400 being a good offense. The Chargers are that like think 1218 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,960 about the Chargers pass catchers from a best ball standpoint, 1219 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,400 like Keenan Allen, huge win QJ huge win. 1220 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,000 Arande Gadsden, massive win, right? 1221 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,120 Like all of those, we won't talk about lad Mcconkey, but all of 1222 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,720 those other guys just enormous wins. 1223 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,680 And so basically in. A while four guys that 20% 1224 01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,280 target for a run. Yeah. 1225 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,120 I, I mean, from a weekly standpoint, I think that this is 1226 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:20,040 a awesome offense to attack for DFS purposes just because 1227 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,280 there's a lot of volatility with who is the guy in that week. 1228 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,800 And I think that probably like incorrectly scares people away, 1229 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,680 people who are just playing one lineup or hand building, like 1230 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,400 it's going to be hard to want to click a Charger's pass catcher 1231 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,080 because you don't really know who it's going to be. 1232 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,200 And that's like, that is that's a good thing. 1233 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,480 Like it's good that there is ambiguity there because you can 1234 01:16:43,480 --> 01:16:46,600 play them a discounted ownership and you know, the pricing is 1235 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:47,840 probably not going to be efficient. 1236 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,320 They probably all end up underpriced. 1237 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,240 I I would assume this is the case in BRS especially or you 1238 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,400 end up with one like for example, lad has just been kind 1239 01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,280 of consistently priced up as like the first guy to go or like 1240 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,960 if if not the first guy, like kind of has gone right in line 1241 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,600 with QJ in previous weeks. And so I think you probably just 1242 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,720 end up with a phenomenon where the first Chargers pass catcher 1243 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,560 to go is overpriced and then all the other ones are underpriced 1244 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:18,080 and and you can just print money because the market is going to 1245 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,440 do a bad job at understanding how that ambiguity works and 1246 01:17:21,440 --> 01:17:24,080 like what the range of outcomes is for all of these pass 1247 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,040 catchers. So I think that's pretty 1248 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,360 interesting going forward. And basically we're saying 1249 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:34,160 Arande Gadsden is just as good a bet as Labakonki or Keenan Allen 1250 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,440 or Quinton Johnston to lead the Chargers in fantasy points for a 1251 01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:42,200 week, which is pretty, pretty good for a tight end. 1252 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:47,120 So very, very big signal from Gadsden here. 1253 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,240 He's, if you have Fab left, he's like a all year Fab kind of 1254 01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:56,240 player, right? Right, Yeah, 100 percent, 100%. 1255 01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:04,840 It is a it's certainly a year for rookie tight ends where then 1256 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,120 you have, you have Tyler Warren, obviously great. 1257 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:14,680 I do think Loveland might end up being like a sneaky good 1258 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,880 second-half of the year play where you have the commit injury 1259 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,720 last week coming out of the coming out of the bye. 1260 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,840 They have what is it, 24% target spread run for Loveland, 1261 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,920 probably massively helped by the commit injury, but he did have a 1262 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:39,200 63% route rate. So like that's like that. 1263 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:43,760 That's certainly how do I say it, That's certainly trending 1264 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,480 up. And then I think, I think the, 1265 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,600 the, the non fanon drafters got up pretty lightly last week 1266 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:58,440 where fanon was able to get 90% of the routes, sorry, 87% of the 1267 01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:00,560 routes and then a 25% tire spread run. 1268 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:04,320 But they only had like what, 18 drop backs because in the middle 1269 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,600 of a hurricane? Yeah, and it's weird too. 1270 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,560 They they passed more when they were ahead, which is very 1271 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,560 strange like after they were putting the game away that they 1272 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,400 actually passed more so I don't know, but yes, Fannin fannin 1273 01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:22,320 could have been set up for a monster week as far as 1274 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:27,680 opportunity, but the game environment did not help that to 1275 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,920 to bear out in the way that we had hoped. 1276 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,640 Other tight end notes that I had the Jake Ferguson cell high 1277 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,440 window is still open because he got 2 touchdowns this week. 1278 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,840 I, I think that there's two ways to play this. 1279 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,800 If you're in a league where you can, you can trade them. 1280 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:51,400 You could sell Jake Ferguson, but it's truly a sell high. 1281 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,200 Like you're not selling for anything. 1282 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:57,560 It's not a sell for whatever you get, which I feel like is a real 1283 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,480 whenever someone who is asking me for random home league advice 1284 01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:07,800 is asking about trades, I feel like 90% of the time they send 1285 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,920 me a trade and they say, what do you think of this? 1286 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,520 Like should I do this? I really want to sell player X. 1287 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,800 And almost every time it's like, Oh yeah, I really wanted to sell 1288 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:22,320 Nico Collins for, you know, Cortland Sutton or, or like, oh, 1289 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,320 I'm selling Nico Collins for Ricky Piersall for when he comes 1290 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,440 back. And it's like, OK, just cause 1291 01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:29,320 Nico has not had a good start to the season. 1292 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,880 Like it's not a sell at all costs. 1293 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,840 It's not a sell for pennies on the dollar type situation. 1294 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:39,320 It's a sell high sell if you can get someone to pay a good price 1295 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:40,800 for this. So that's where I feel like Jake 1296 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,000 Ferguson is. Because if you're stuck holding 1297 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,760 Jake Ferguson, it's like, Oh no, I have this dump off artist on a 1298 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,680 team that likes to target him in the red zone and they happen to 1299 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,960 score a ton of touchdowns. It'd be probably the best 1300 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,640 offense in football as far as fantasy is concerned. 1301 01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,960 Like whatever will I do with Jake Ferguson? 1302 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,560 So you're not compelled to sell him, but you probably could get 1303 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:07,680 more than he is worth. So that's that was the the Jake 1304 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,240 Ferguson note I had to do. He had. 1305 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:15,400 He had 7 targets and still 26% at yards per run even with DD 1306 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,040 Lambach. And how many yards he. 1307 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,640 Only had 7 area yards, yeah. Just going to say, how many 1308 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,520 yards is those 7 targets? Yeah, it was not a lot. 1309 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,600 So yeah. He is truly the the the dumb 1310 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:34,560 off, but in in in tight end premium that that is helpful. 1311 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:40,280 The last random little note here, Dalton Schultz has 1312 01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,120 actually been a lot better lately. 1313 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,440 It wasn't just the the Christian Kirk injury this game. 1314 01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:48,600 He he had been better the previous game. 1315 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,200 It's getting more involved and not terribly exciting because 1316 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,840 that offense seems really bad. Offensive line is atrocious. 1317 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,920 I saw some people saying like, oh gosh, the the Texans are 1318 01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:02,160 going to be so much better when they get a real quarterback. 1319 01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:07,280 Like dude, so, so irritating to see comments like that because 1320 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,440 that is just like very clear. I didn't watch any of the game 1321 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,560 type conversation. CJ Stroud has a guy literally in 1322 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,800 his lap half a second after every snap. 1323 01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,760 Man, I don't know what you want him to do. 1324 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:24,520 Like there's there's nothing to be done as the quarterback on 1325 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:28,120 the Houston Texans. Like you are getting just 1326 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:32,160 relentlessly pressured there. There is no room to work. 1327 01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:37,960 So right, they, they couldn't even run on like the, the clear 1328 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,800 running situations where it's like, OK, the offense, the the 1329 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,920 defense can stop you from doing whatever you want to do. 1330 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,760 Yeah, it's a, it's an offensive line in name only. 1331 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,840 They don't actually do any of the things you'd expect an 1332 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,640 offensive line to do, like buy time for you to set up a pass 1333 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:59,000 play or, you know, create yards before contact in the rushing 1334 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,400 game. Like none of that actually 1335 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,600 happens. It's just there's five guys out 1336 01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,000 here that are getting paid to combine, you know, 10s of 1337 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:09,240 millions of dollars to, you know, stand to the side and let 1338 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,440 defensive players pad their stats every game. 1339 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,960 All right, that's, that's enough of my tirade on the Texans 1340 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,280 offensive line. The last tight end note I had, I 1341 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,240 think this tight end is actually on the backups page and it is 1342 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:27,440 fitting for us to to discuss him with the backups chart visible. 1343 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,680 Evan Ingram, you might look at that targets per route run and 1344 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,200 be like, wow, well, he's not running a ton of routes, but 1345 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:38,120 shoot 22% TPRRI. Look at the game log guys 1346 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,480 getting like 8 targets a game. He's getting some receptions 1347 01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:43,320 like this could be this could be something. 1348 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:48,280 Let me be the first to tell you as a former Evan Ingram Bull, 1349 01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:54,240 it's, it's Joker, it's I. If you didn't watch this game, 1350 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,360 I'm sorry that I'm giving you this homework assignment because 1351 01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,960 the 1st 3/4 of this game are truly, truly unwatchable. 1352 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,000 But you're going to need to do it. 1353 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,440 You're going to need to go watch. 1354 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,920 And I want you to watch the Evan Ingram receptions. 1355 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,880 And when you get to the one I'm talking about, you're going to 1356 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:14,960 know because he catches a pass. And if you've ever, you know, if 1357 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,520 you run, if you go out there, you know, you get your jogs in, 1358 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,000 you know, you're, you're active out there. 1359 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,960 You got your music playing and your headphones and a good song 1360 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,240 comes on and you're like, I'm gonna open it up. 1361 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,520 I'm gonna open up, You know, the engine to this one. 1362 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,120 We're we're gonna kick it into high gear. 1363 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,280 You kind of like put your head down. 1364 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,520 You start chugging. You're just zooming. 1365 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:40,640 You know, Evan Ingram had that moment on Sunday where he 1366 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,680 catches a pass and you can see him. 1367 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,480 He's feeling himself. He's like, oh, look at the 1368 01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:49,200 Joker's about to get loose, baby, it's time for some serious 1369 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,720 yak ability. He puts his head down and you 1370 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,040 can see him turn the gear up from first to second gear. 1371 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,600 There's no gear change whatsoever. 1372 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,360 All that happened was his head just went down and he's moving 1373 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,240 at the exact same speed. There's zero acceleration. 1374 01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,840 It is, it's depressing. Like with with a lot of NFL 1375 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,720 players, you can see the gear change on a guy where it's like, 1376 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:14,800 oh, I was, I was running and now I'm running and there's no, 1377 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,040 there's only one gear left for Evan Ingram and it's slow. 1378 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,280 So he'll probably keep getting these little rinky dink targets, 1379 01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,840 but they are the classic Evan Ingram scam targets. 1380 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,760 And the reason that I, I brought up the, the just terrible, 1381 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:35,120 terrible optics of his yak attempt there is the ceiling is, 1382 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:40,320 is very much capped because Evan Ingram cannot do like a, there 1383 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,400 will not be an Evan Ingram long touchdown 'cause he will get 1384 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:44,640 caught from behind. Like there. 1385 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,800 That's just not a thing that can happen at this point. 1386 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,360 You know, your longest touchdown, you're gonna get like 1387 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,360 30 yards because of a busted coverage and, and he catches the 1388 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,520 ball 15 yards downfield, which again, that's not where he's 1389 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,800 even operating like. So you're just, you're shit out 1390 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,200 of luck if you're hoping for an Evan Ingram splash play. 1391 01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:07,040 Anyway, had had to share that it was too funny not to after 1392 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:12,320 watching him play on Sunday. Or IP or IP. 1393 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:24,960 So moving on to to the receivers and so you, your first note was 1394 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:32,000 about Brian Thomas. Yeah, I feel like there's our 1395 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,640 shows are very much centered around the stats where we are 1396 01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,880 digging through all these advanced metrics and trying to 1397 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,280 give you actionable takeaways or point out trends, you know, 1398 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,360 early in the cycle so that we can find advantages in these 1399 01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:48,560 fantasy games that we're playing. 1400 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,360 But I do really think that a big part of the value that we can 1401 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:57,640 add to this is let's also add the context of watching how the 1402 01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,320 accumulation of these stats occurred. 1403 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:04,120 And for Brian Thomas, I have noticed the entire season, he's 1404 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,760 been really hesitant to catch the ball in traffic. 1405 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,640 Like he's had a lot of bad drops where he's going across the 1406 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,800 middle and seems to pull up or like he just doesn't. 1407 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,320 He looks like he doesn't want to get hit. 1408 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,240 And there have been people that have talked about this. 1409 01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,240 It's not, I'm not the first person to bring this up, but 1410 01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,760 I've been noticing it as well. This week is the first week 1411 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:27,040 where I feel like we got irrefutable evidence, absolute 1412 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:28,760 confirmation he is playing injured. 1413 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,120 His shoulder is super injured like it is. 1414 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,080 AII would not be surprised at all if at the end of this season 1415 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,640 we get a report that Brian Thomas Junior was playing 1416 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:44,040 through, you know, Torn Labra or Brian Thomas Junior is playing 1417 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,440 through an AC joint sprain all season and now he's having 1418 01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:49,800 surgery. Or, or if the Jags end up out of 1419 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,440 the playoffs, I wouldn't be surprised to see Brian Thomas 1420 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,520 get shut down and have season ending surgery. 1421 01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:00,160 The reason I say that is all of the evidence in the previous 1422 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,000 weeks where he's really hesitant to go across the middle, really 1423 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,000 hesitant to catch the ball in traffic, bad drops. 1424 01:28:05,480 --> 01:28:09,640 This week, same thing, but he has a play where a defender 1425 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,360 touches his shoulder. I'm not talking like, oh, he 1426 01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,920 made big contact. Like, he got smashed. 1427 01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,080 A defender literally just puts his hand on his shoulder. 1428 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,440 No, no force exertion whatsoever. 1429 01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:23,680 He just touches him. And Brian Thomas Junior, like, 1430 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,440 winces. He he, you know, recoils in pain 1431 01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:29,720 from just this light touch to his shoulder. 1432 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,680 And the announcers brought it up, too, like, oh, wow. 1433 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,960 Like, he really, you know, acted like he'd been shot there. 1434 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,640 So there's something not right with him. 1435 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,840 It's not been widely reported though. 1436 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,720 This is your cell window on Brian Thomas. 1437 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,040 Like he's had enough. He's done enough lately where he 1438 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,560 had some bad couple bad games to start the season. 1439 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,400 He has a good game a couple weeks ago. 1440 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,800 This is your cell window. Get out right now. 1441 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,800 He's at he's playing injured. It wouldn't surprise me at all 1442 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,240 if he's shut down at some point this season or if it gets re 1443 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,080 aggravated. He's not right. 1444 01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,440 Like this is not the Brian Thomas that you thought you were 1445 01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:07,280 drafting. This guy's playing with an 1446 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,400 injury that hasn't gone reported, and I like would bet 1447 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:14,960 you dollars to Donuts on that. Yeah, damn. 1448 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,440 I'm almost very vigilant to the hidden injuries, but that that, 1449 01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:23,480 that does seem pretty clear where he's, like you said, he's 1450 01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:25,120 not right. Yeah. 1451 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,600 OK. The next guy I wanted to bring 1452 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,480 up. So we've seen Roma Dunze kind of 1453 01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:36,720 consistently regress on this chart where he was farther up 1454 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,320 and to the right. He has a couple games without 1455 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,840 touchdowns now and he's beginning to regress. 1456 01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:47,600 I wanted to get your take on this where so where he 1457 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:53,160 previously was where he's like just below CD and you know, he's 1458 01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:57,400 he's to the right of Pickens and you know, like below that elite 1459 01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,480 tier of Chase Amanra CD previously. 1460 01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,400 Now he's trending towards the middle of the chart. 1461 01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:08,480 Is that just like the pendulum range on Roma Dunze where the 1462 01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:11,160 previous point was like the high watermark for what we'd expect 1463 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,520 from like a small sample efficiency for him and then now 1464 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,360 we're kind of near the low watermark or are we still in 1465 01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,120 that like backswing of the pendulum? 1466 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:20,920 Is there still farther for him to slide? 1467 01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:22,960 Where? Where do you think like his 1468 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,640 baseline level of production should? 1469 01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:31,400 Be so he had some run by didn't he In in week 5 or week six. 1470 01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:35,560 It was where he caught a touchdown and then it was a 1471 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:40,280 formational penalty on the offensive line and so it didn't 1472 01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:47,920 count. The one thing that's clear is 1473 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:53,280 that he has a really high A dot. It's like if, if I look at the 1474 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:59,880 game log here and it's 13.821 point 414 point tree in the last 1475 01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:05,960 couple weeks. So your your air yards are are 1476 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,280 are really strong. The target count is actually 1477 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:12,000 pretty good too. But you are going to have some 1478 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:17,760 volatility in in your fantasy points, especially when when 1479 01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:19,560 kind of touchdowns get wiped off the board. 1480 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:25,080 The game that they I thought I saw that the New Orleans and 1481 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:30,080 Chicago game actually had worse weather than than the Dolphins 1482 01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:33,440 Browns game. I thought the wind maybe the the 1483 01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:36,960 rain wasn't as bad, but the wind was like even faster. 1484 01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:42,920 I think I saw that. And so to answer your question, 1485 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:51,320 I think I think I'd put him. I'm trying to find where he is 1486 01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,800 on the Romo Dunze. He's like right next to the 1487 01:31:54,840 --> 01:32:04,600 Pitman and Flowers and Metcalf. I think I'd maybe, I think where 1488 01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,760 he is right there is probably is probably good. 1489 01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,000 Yeah, that's that's what I think as well. 1490 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,040 I like, I don't think number one, I would expect that we see 1491 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:16,880 Justin Jefferson have a little bit better efficiency as the 1492 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,120 season progresses and maybe he gets more consistent quarterback 1493 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,440 play. That also might just be a pipe 1494 01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:23,920 dream. Maybe the more efficient 1495 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,920 quarterback play isn't coming. But yeah, I think all for all 1496 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:32,240 the complaining I did about Caleb where, oh, he has really 1497 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,600 long time to throw and you know, he's got all these turnover 1498 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,840 worthy plays. Yeah, that's because he's 1499 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,680 extending the play to throw super far downfield to Roma 1500 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,360 Doonsay. So all for all the bad that I 1501 01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:48,040 can point out about Caleb, Roma Doonsay is the direct benefactor 1502 01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:49,840 of the good that comes with that bad. 1503 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:55,640 So I think that, you know, the way to play that that two player 1504 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,320 relationship is you'd much prefer to be on the Roma 1505 01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,720 doomsday side where you can just get the ceiling outcomes. 1506 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:06,440 And then if he if he busts, it's whatever, you know, where Caleb, 1507 01:33:06,440 --> 01:33:08,760 the opportunity cost of a quarterback busting is a lot 1508 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,240 higher than the opportunity cost of a wide receiver busting. 1509 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,280 You know, you're going to get points from basically any 1510 01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:17,160 quarterback. But so yeah, I think a doomsday 1511 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:21,120 is probably right around where his home will be on the chart 1512 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,120 there. He definitely has run bad in the 1513 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:27,840 recent games, but he was also Nuclear Sun running to start the 1514 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,480 season, so as we get more data, right. 1515 01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,720 Right, it averages out. They they do kind of average out 1516 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,440 OK. The next notes I had for wide 1517 01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:42,080 receiver were on the next chart. Did you have anyone else on this 1518 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:48,400 chart you wanted to talk about? No, no, I don't know if you 1519 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:52,560 wanted to gyrate over Jameson Williams's corpse a little bit, 1520 01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,720 but. I think, I think the Jamo 1521 01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,320 drafters have had enough. I mean, it's not often that I 1522 01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,800 take the High Road and and I don't, you know, victory lap a 1523 01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:06,400 player that I was fading. But you know, I got I've gotten 1524 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:10,440 plenty wrong myself this season. So we can we can leave the 1525 01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:13,200 Jameson Williams drafters alone. We don't need to kick them while 1526 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:18,480 they're down. And so, yeah, I think we we 1527 01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:22,680 already, you had a note here about Keenan Allen where he had 1528 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,960 a really nice game. Yeah. 1529 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,320 Yeah, it's just chargers. Yeah. 1530 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:37,280 Where he's like 70 to 80% rat run, 20% target sprout run and, 1531 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,640 and, and you're just going to get a good spike games like 1532 01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,640 that. Yeah, it's just, hey, of all the 1533 01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,760 Chargers, one of them will probably be really good for 1534 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,920 fantasy every week, you know, or, or at the very least you or 1535 01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:53,800 they're all usable. You know, I do think Gadsden 1536 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,840 getting involved just makes it slightly more annoying for for 1537 01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,000 everyone, for Keenan, for QJ, for Ladd, Right. 1538 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:06,400 It's just that's one more guy that I mean, really they're, I 1539 01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,320 don't know that their target share is falling all that much. 1540 01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,400 It's just that Gadsden is consolidating like the scraps 1541 01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,960 that were around right now. It's just like, hey, here's four 1542 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,040 guys and it goes through them. Or before it was like, OK, it's 1543 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:23,240 Keenan Ladd and QJ and then the running backs get some and then 1544 01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:27,280 the a couple tight ends get targets and we'll get KLS 1545 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,520 involved and we'll get Trey Harris involved. 1546 01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:34,160 It's, it's mostly like these four guys now and then the other 1547 01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,440 guys pick up the scraps, but they're, the scraps are have 1548 01:35:37,440 --> 01:35:39,400 consolidated among these four guys. 1549 01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:47,920 It's so tilting that Troy Franklin had 172 area yards and 1550 01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:53,200 only 19 real yards. Yeah, I mean, a, a lot of it is 1551 01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:57,840 like they, they were not the highest quality area yards from 1552 01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:03,160 from Bonex There. There's some, there's some that 1553 01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:05,680 is Troy Franklin's fault, to be very clear. 1554 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,280 It's also, you know, if we're converting those area yards to 1555 01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:16,160 like, how many of those are like real, real, like the 100, you 1556 01:36:16,480 --> 01:36:19,840 know, so. Still so that, that's a that, 1557 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,520 no, yeah, I'm just saying his usage profile is so fantastic. 1558 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,680 Yeah, the I mean. I haven't seen the true true 1559 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,600 Smash game. We and we and take our victory 1560 01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:34,160 lap on Troy Franklin being the the Broncos receiver to draft. 1561 01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:35,960 It was definitely not Marvin Nems. 1562 01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,960 You know, right, That's always nice to be right. 1563 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,800 It just just like Juwan Jennings was also a great pick. 1564 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,440 If only he didn't break five of his ribs, you know, sprain his 1565 01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:50,480 ankle. Do like the the process picks 1566 01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:54,600 are are going crazy. Unfortunately the results are 1567 01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,960 are not as crazy for some of them so. 1568 01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,840 But Troy Franklin, he's probably another one where he's a good 1569 01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,360 dog bowl pick, right, With all the buys. 1570 01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:06,120 Like if you're if you're going to get him, you probably get him 1571 01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,840 in the sixth round. No ownership. 1572 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:13,360 I. Know it's 10, it's 10. 1573 01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:15,440 Maybe. Maybe he's just like, too far 1574 01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:17,000 down. I haven't really looked at the 1575 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:21,640 slate this week. Yeah, he he's probably he's 1576 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,640 probably fine. He's like a mix it in kind of 1577 01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:25,200 guy. Not not someone that's like a 1578 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:29,600 staple by any means. You can for for guys that are, 1579 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:34,560 if you're on this chart and you're to the right of the 1580 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,600 median weighted targets for route run and and you're in that 1581 01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,840 upper right quadrant where you've been able to be efficient 1582 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,760 with your opportunity, You're probably someone that can be 1583 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:45,240 picked in the last round of the dog bowl. 1584 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:49,520 You know, like that's just obviously some of these guys 1585 01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,760 like Nico Collins, Keenan Allen Puka, like those are well done 1586 01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,720 picks, but you get to like the you get to like the Travis 1587 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,520 Hunter. Troy Franklin, the coolest smash 1588 01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:04,960 smash of the cycle. But like Shaheed Kendrick 1589 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,720 Bourne, Travis Hunter, Troy Franklin, Key uncle, all those 1590 01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,520 guys are like, yeah, that's like I could take that in the sixth 1591 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,520 round. You'd you'd be surprised how how 1592 01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:18,040 shitty the players are that you could reasonably draft in the 1593 01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,400 sixth round there, right? Yeah. 1594 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:27,840 Right, once, once you get like a your what, what is it? 1595 01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:34,040 It's 6 rounds 10. So it's, it's 12 teams so and, 1596 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:40,600 and 24 you're so you're on like wide receiver what, 26 through 1597 01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,760 30 or something like that. Yeah, yeah. 1598 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:48,400 That's. Who these guys are, the other 1599 01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,000 one? It was nice to see Travis 1600 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,720 Hunter. Yeah, he he had. 1601 01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,200 He finally had his breakout game. 1602 01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,960 I mean, Draco, there's only so many times you can throw the 1603 01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,640 ball to Parker, WA without just getting absolutely fed up. 1604 01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,760 Like, you know what, Travis, you just need to play more offense, 1605 01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,880 my guy. And then I saw there was a 1606 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,320 comment that he only played an 11 personnel. 1607 01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:21,760 So what's interesting there is that he he did had 27 snaps out 1608 01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:25,440 wide. He did play 40 snaps in slot. 1609 01:39:25,440 --> 01:39:28,640 So he was predominantly slot, but not certainly not slot only. 1610 01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,240 And there hopefully, hopefully he can continue to have that 1611 01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:38,880 kind of like was it 89% rate rate He didn't have 86% in in 1612 01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:44,600 the prior week. So hopefully that can can 1613 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:48,160 sustain and and they have realized that good things happen 1614 01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,840 when you throw him the ball. I I think it has to man. 1615 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,760 I think this is the start of the Travis Hunter breakout. 1616 01:39:54,440 --> 01:39:57,880 I mean, I, I said the Parker Washington thing like kind of 1617 01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,640 jokingly, but I'm dead serious. If you watch this game, which I 1618 01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,720 was stupid enough to wake up at, you know, 6:30 AM on the West 1619 01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:10,680 Coast to watch it. What are the Jaguars doing on 1620 01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,640 offense? Like there's there is so much 1621 01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,440 Parker Washington targets like it's. 1622 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,920 It's just crazy. It was like all over the field 1623 01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:24,440 it was and the rounds it was screaming. 1624 01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:27,640 Oh, don't even. Cross the routes deep down the 1625 01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,120 field. If you say Parker Washington end 1626 01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,520 around one more time, I might freak out. 1627 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,040 It might trigger some post traumatic stress disorder 1628 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:38,560 because dude, the Parker Washington end arounds on like 1629 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,880 third and short or the 4th. They gotta have it placed and 1630 01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,360 they're like, you know what the best thing in our playbook is 1631 01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,720 right here? Parker Washington end around 1632 01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:50,800 like I'm I'm going to walk into traffic if the Jags keep doing 1633 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,840 that every week. It it's so the offense is just 1634 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:58,560 too bad to not like they have to do something and this guy's 1635 01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,400 electric with the ball in his hands and he can make plays down 1636 01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,720 the field like and also Brian Thomas junior is injured. 1637 01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:09,520 Like I would not be surprised if Travis Hunter is the top scoring 1638 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,600 receiver on this team by the end of the season. 1639 01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,960 Like it the path is very clear. It's it's wheels up. 1640 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,920 Honestly, that's, this is probably the, the like trend to 1641 01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:21,680 get ahead of. Like of all the things that 1642 01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:23,560 we've talked about, like the thing that'll fly under the 1643 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:27,320 radar the most is this #1 because even though it's an 1644 01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,040 island game, it's in London. So you'd have to wake up early 1645 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:31,400 to watch it on the West Coast, right? 1646 01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,720 And a lot of people aren't, just aren't watching the London game. 1647 01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,720 You also have all of the previous weeks where he's 1648 01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:43,000 underwhelming and the like fantasy community consensus was 1649 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,640 he was supposed to be so good he underwhelms the start and so he 1650 01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,960 just kind of like stays. Disappointing. 1651 01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:52,240 Afraid that he's going to go back to cornerback and never do 1652 01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:54,800 this again. Yeah, this is I, I think this is 1653 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,520 the spot to attack. You just play it like the the 1654 01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:02,520 breakout just happened and you just lean into that and and you 1655 01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:07,320 just hope going forward that that is that is what happens. 1656 01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:09,760 I'm pulling up their schedule here. 1657 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:15,160 I want to see. Oh no, man, no, well, they get 1658 01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:16,840 they get the Texans in two weeks. 1659 01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,480 They they've got their bye. Obviously you get the Raiders 1660 01:42:21,480 --> 01:42:23,040 the the first game out of the bye. 1661 01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,520 So that's probably the the spot to attack, honestly, coming off 1662 01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,840 the bye too, Like it's it's extra time for this Travis 1663 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:31,720 Hunter game to fade from people's memory. 1664 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,880 So just catalog this away, file it away in the old noggin. 1665 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,800 Travis Hunter against the Raiders. 1666 01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:46,280 That's that's the spot. That's that's the next spot to 1667 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:50,120 attack and then moving to the last chart. 1668 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:55,880 I I think it's so funny how like all the other charts can handle 1669 01:42:55,880 --> 01:43:00,720 being broken by like by like the likes of Puku Nikua. 1670 01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:05,800 The the shooter chart really cannot handle being broken by 1671 01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:09,360 Rashi, right? Yeah, Rashi will will hopefully 1672 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:15,080 get up to the the next tier of chart after another week, but 1673 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:20,000 very funny to see him here with 90% weighted targets for route 1674 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:24,520 run just Hey Draco, do you think that they want to involve Rashi 1675 01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:31,080 in the offense? Yeah, I want to be be kind and 1676 01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:37,120 but I, I, I, Rashi is obviously a he's he's their guy. 1677 01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,120 He's he's the one that is going to make. 1678 01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:44,760 He's the stop, just well, Mahomes is the straw that serves 1679 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,880 to drink, but he's the he's the simple syrup. 1680 01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:53,080 Yeah, I know Rashi is going to smash going forward. 1681 01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,400 We, we talked about this in our, our rankings chat where we were 1682 01:43:56,480 --> 01:43:59,640 saying, you know, Rashi Rice or Puka Nakua straight up rest of 1683 01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,920 the season. And I believe all of us fell on 1684 01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,240 the Rashi rice side or on the Puka Nukua side, except for you, 1685 01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,360 Trico, who who did think that Rashi could give I. 1686 01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:13,360 Thought it'd be close. Yeah, I do think I still like 1687 01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,520 the that way. I like the puka side still. 1688 01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:21,200 But Rashi is going to be, you know, top five fantasy receiver 1689 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:23,520 going forward the rest of the way the the. 1690 01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,480 Disappointing. I was the one who made the point 1691 01:44:25,480 --> 01:44:29,160 where like for that to be true, Rashi would have to have one of 1692 01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:34,400 the best for game fantasy years ever and, and and my reaction 1693 01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:38,080 was like uh huh. Yeah, I know. 1694 01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,880 I mean, that certainly feels like what we are set up for 1695 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:47,360 right here. I you can definitely see how a 1696 01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,960 disappointing game can be in the hopper where he gets pretend he 1697 01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:55,040 gets 12 targets and they go for seven receptions for 60 yards 1698 01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:56,320 and and no scores. Right. 1699 01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:00,040 And that'll be the that's going to be the week where the Rashi 1700 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,400 faders come out of the woodwork to victory lap. 1701 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,440 See, he's just, oh, it's just PPR scam. 1702 01:45:05,440 --> 01:45:07,720 If he doesn't score a touchdown, he doesn't do anything. 1703 01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,320 And I, I don't think that those will be the norm, but I, I can 1704 01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,640 definitely squarely in the range with how he's getting deployed 1705 01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:19,200 and also how dominant the Chiefs can be where they just may not 1706 01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,800 have to use him very much in in these uncompetitive games. 1707 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,760 But I think that. I don't, I don't, I don't think 1708 01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,520 he's going to he's going to have a game with catch rate that low. 1709 01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,240 But I could see it being one where there was, I can see what 1710 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:36,880 you're saying where like the receptions are in check and the 1711 01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,800 the yardages are low because the A dot is low and he doesn't 1712 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:45,640 happen to score a touchdown. Yeah, the I mean, by the time we 1713 01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:49,840 get to the fantasy playoffs, I think the receivers that I will 1714 01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:54,920 be most excited to see on my team are going to be puka CD 1715 01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:59,520 JSN, Rashi Rice. And I think it's in that order. 1716 01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,400 And you know, like I think I'd prefer to have Rashi Rice over 1717 01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:08,000 Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson and like pretty sure that's 1718 01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,480 where it's at. You probably Amanrom maybe is in 1719 01:46:10,480 --> 01:46:12,920 there right around Rashi or ahead of Rashi. 1720 01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:17,560 Zay flowers too, probably. Yeah, yeah, by playoff time, I I 1721 01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:19,800 certainly could see Flower Flowers is probably in there 1722 01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:24,840 with the like, God, if the Vikings don't figure out their 1723 01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:27,920 quarterback stuff, it might be Zay Flowers versus Justin 1724 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:29,720 Jefferson. Like straight up could be a 1725 01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:35,760 very, very real. Yeah, yeah, Justin Jefferson 1726 01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,920 seems like such a cool guy as well, so that makes me sad. 1727 01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:43,200 Yeah, it does. It does make me sad Jets is is 1728 01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:47,800 very good at the game and it's just a bummer to to see him 1729 01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,000 stuck in the quarterback purgatory. 1730 01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,120 I mean, he still had a solid game this week. 1731 01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:56,600 You know, it's just, you just know that there's so much more, 1732 01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:01,720 which is what makes it sad. But anyway, I I think I think 1733 01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:05,600 that's everything to cover on the wide receiver charts. 1734 01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:09,520 Did you have anything else that you wanted to talk about? 1735 01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:12,040 No. OK. 1736 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,920 You're going to sneak in like a sermon at the end of the end the 1737 01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:21,360 two hour podcast, like I want to talk to everybody about my Lord 1738 01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:28,000 and Savior Jesus Christ. Well, I think, I think with that 1739 01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:28,720 if. You made it. 1740 01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,200 If you made it this far, you are truly one of the devoted. 1741 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,920 I think with that, it's time to end it. 1742 01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,720 But thank you all for joining us here for Week 7. 1743 01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:43,480 We will see you again next week Tuesday, same time as usual. 1744 01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,520 Good luck this week, everybody. See you next week, everybody.