1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,880 Hi, I'm Mike Shope, excited and honored to be stepping in with 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:11,280 Pat Crane Davis Maddock today to continue the long, proud 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,800 checkered history of EDP. Chasing checkered is probably 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,960 not fair. This is one of my very favorite 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,920 shows. Mad Men West Wing, 6 feet Under. 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,440 I'm 53. Give me a break. 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,840 All right, these are my favorite shows. 8 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:28,600 I cannot wait to talk Week 11. Anthony Richardson, Brock 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,479 Bowers, Taysom Hill. I'm Mike with Patton Davis. 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,240 This is ADP chasing for November 18th, 2024. 11 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:44,560 Pat. Fryer Helmo ADP chasing is for 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,800 when you watch ship chase and you go these guys are just 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,320 football guys and the targets for outrun leagues. 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,200 That's going to be really nice actually back in if it's 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,600 Austinet. Let's tear into our crystal 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,760 ball. close your eyes. You know all your entries are 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,160 going to lose anyway. Yeah, that's fair. 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,800 This is a Deuce Von show. Anti cabal. 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,640 It's anti the best ball thought leader. 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,920 I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,800 lot of both of these guys. It's the most disgusting thing 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:15,800 you can make. But man, All right. 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,640 So for the record, that was me, not Mike who who played the 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,800 wrong clip there. That's it's not not the new guy, 25 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:26,120 Pat Pryor the whole time. I just heard, I just heard Pat 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,440 Pryor, Hellmuth, and I was like, all right, all right, all right. 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,120 My favorite show. Starting, I think the real 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,360 reason I'm here is because I think T Higgins is good, I feel. 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,760 Like that's true, yeah. Big Chasing stepped in and had 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,000 enough of the slander. No, I mean I have enjoyed 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,840 watching you guys and Sam for a long time and I just hope we can 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,000 keep it humming. So thank you for having me. 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,840 Of course, yeah. Welcome aboard. 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,160 We're we're psyched. This will be a lot of. 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,880 We're happy to have you. If you were not here, this would 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,720 have been two hours of Karine and I sort of listlessly 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,280 drifting from topic to topic. We probably would have done 40. 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,600 5 Listlessly. Listlessly, you know. 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,240 No, no, rudderlessly. Not rudderlessly. 40 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:11,120 Rudderlessly. Yeah. 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,280 You know, we would have probably spent 45 minutes on Daniel Jones 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,400 this morning. We would have. 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Like we don't have any direction, doesn't mean we don't 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,040 hit the power sometimes. Correct. 45 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,560 We, we would have gone deep into, you know, Daniel Jones, 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,480 who is Daniel Jones, offensive coordinator. 47 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,360 We would have gotten into like, well, why did they take him over 48 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,240 Justin Herbert? You know, it would have been, it 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,880 would have been a fun, it would have been a fun thought 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,120 experiment. Honestly, I would have loved it. 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,840 I mean, if that had happened. I don't know how many minutes 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,440 you do want to spend on that, but I would like to actually say 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,960 not not entirely a joke. I I think, you know, it's funny 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,880 that T Higgins went what, wide receiver 2 for the week last 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,880 night. I mean, can I just sort of try 56 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,360 to ingratiate myself sort of get into the flow here by asking 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,640 what we think he really is? I mean, the Bengals, Davis, I 58 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:02,360 saw you tweeting about them this morning, their schedule. 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,680 But it's four and seven now, right? 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,040 Like what? You wonder about the incentives 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,440 when it comes to Cincinnati, the players and then just the team. 62 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,840 At the same time, I thought last night there was like an 63 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,040 excitement, the comeback and everything that had happened, 64 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,320 but also a little bit of a melancholy vibe with Cincinnati. 65 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,000 I don't know. I mean, are we going to be able 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,960 to trust the Bengals down the stretch? 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,360 I mean, I'll tell you this right now, they lose that Week 12 game 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,160 to the Steelers and you have big Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, T 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,480 Higgins positions. It's over for you because they 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,000 are, they are not getting there. But if they win that game, I 71 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,760 would argue the Bengals might be who you need because every 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,560 single game is going to be a playoff game. 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,360 I mean, dude, Chase Brown is getting 28 touches a game, but 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,000 that might be less, it might be less than 28 touches a game. 75 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,800 Like they there's no try and keep the offense on schedule. 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,040 Like it's all like we got to get touchdowns and we got to get 77 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,920 touchdowns right now. Louie Amorano, by the way, this 78 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,640 is it's not really a topic for this show. 79 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,200 Louie Amorano was like supposed to be a head coach candidate 80 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,640 like 18 months ago. He he beat, you know, Burrowhead 81 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,080 beats beats the Chiefs and Arrowhead. 82 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,120 I mean. But it was always ridiculous, 83 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:11,960 yeah. It was. 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,520 The narratives last year on Anaruma were like, he does all 85 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,120 this, he takes all the top guy away. 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,839 It's like their defense wasn't that good. 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,680 It's like he's getting, we're doing, we're bending over 88 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,000 backwards to kind of praise this guy when the numbers don't 89 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,480 really support that they have an elite defense at all. 90 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,320 You know who this year's version of Luann Aruma is? 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,080 It's Aaron Glenn because like Sunday Night Football. 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Wait, didn't Collinsworth say this a couple weeks ago? 93 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,760 Wait, Wait till you see the line out the door for teams wanting 94 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,960 to interview him. Detroit's defensive coordinator? 95 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,680 Really. Is that what you would do? 96 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:52,480 I watched our Bills, sorry, too soon get get taken down by 97 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,120 Cincinnati in the playoffs and everybody couldn't wait to tell 98 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,320 you how qualified and excellent a candidate Amaruno. 99 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Amaruno Anarumo, we got it now is and no disrespect, right? 100 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,400 Like in Buffalo, we're arguing all the time. 101 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,160 This team never loses and we're arguing all the time about Sean 102 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Mcdermott's, you know, quality and value as a head coach. 103 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,800 So I don't know, maybe it'll turn the other way. 104 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,920 It usually does in football. But do we want the new good 105 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,400 teams defensive coordinator to be our bad teams future? 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,280 I don't think I do. It's such a tough spot to be in. 107 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:28,800 To have a defensive. You have to have a really. 108 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,240 You have to have Dan Campbell. Where else does it work? 109 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,520 Dude, he's not defensive. That's the thing about Dan 110 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,720 Campbell. He's got some. 111 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,120 He was a tight end. He. 112 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,440 Was a tight end. He's he came up under Peyton. 113 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,960 He's an offensive mind. He seems so thoroughly like a 114 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,600 defensive guy, but he's an offensive mind. 115 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,960 So I mean, there really aren't that many examples where you're 116 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,240 like psyched. I mean, Belichick is basically 117 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:52,920 the one. Harbaugh, Harbaugh for for. 118 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,040 The. Special teams. 119 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,320 It's going to end up. Quarterback though, is he? 120 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,040 Is he defensive? John Harbaugh was a special 121 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,680 teams coach. He was special teams, yeah, 122 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,800 which he was the same idea. So that that's a. 123 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,520 That's a good example, but. I guess what I mean by defensive 124 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,520 head coaches, I mean the CEO style where you are leaving the 125 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,640 offense to someone else because the issue you run into when you 126 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:15,760 leave an offense to someone else. 127 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,680 I mean, look, the Lions are gonna, the Lions better win the 128 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Super Bowl this year because Ben Johnson is not sticking around 129 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,480 again, I don't think. I think Ben Johnson wants to 130 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,200 have his own team. He wants to make his money. 131 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,920 And you know, like, yeah, they're going to promote someone 132 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,280 from within probably, but can you recapture that? 133 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,240 Yeah, Tomlin obviously is a good example of this. 134 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:42,360 Although Tomlin, you know, would I want to sign up for my team 135 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,520 being a Tomlin team? Would you want to sign up for 136 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,600 that right now? Would you want to sign up for 137 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,600 that right now even at whatever they are first place, right? 138 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,160 No. I I they win that what? 139 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,000 Tomic's a really good coach, but I think you have, you know, I 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,800 don't know, you're kind of stuck in this spot where unless you 141 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,720 have like a Hall of Fame quarterback, it's like tough to 142 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,040 see how you're going to be like a really, really, really strong 143 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,600 team. Because like, I mean, Jared Goff 144 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,720 is not that great. You know, he's, he's playing out 145 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,160 of his mind. But I chalk a lot of it up to 146 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,240 situation, partly because we've already seen this before with 147 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,040 McVeigh. Like if you put everything 148 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,360 around him and it's all in place, then he can. 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,520 I've actually been experimenting looking at like yards when the 150 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,440 quarterback didn't leave the pocket from when you're throwing 151 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,120 3 seconds or later. Just seeing seasons there. 152 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,160 Goff is absolutely smashing with with those types of throws. 153 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,560 One of the other big seasons was Goff in 2018 and one of the 154 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,720 other big seasons was Matthew Stafford in 2021. 155 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,480 Both were the the peak. Of that makes time that makes 156 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,000 such sense. Yeah. 157 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,600 And so it's not to say that Goff isn't playing really well, 158 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,920 playing awesome, but like he's being supported by a team in a 159 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,800 way that, you know, if the situation were to get a little 160 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,040 worse, I think he would be exposed. 161 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,280 As we've we've seen throughout his career, he can get exposed. 162 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:20,440 So the I guess my point is that there is real value in one of 163 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,920 these coaches that can build one of those systems. 164 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,000 Because if you can build a system like that, you can get 165 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,400 Super Bowl level play out of these quarterbacks that you know 166 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,120 aren't going to lead you to a Super Bowl just on their the 167 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,320 weight of their own talent. Well, I right, I mean, think 168 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,039 about Buffalo all the time for this. 169 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,200 I always want, I mean, we had 17 years in a row here without a 170 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,040 playoff team like a record stuff. 171 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:48,560 I always wanted you're going to make the quarterback pick in the 172 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:51,280 first round. You want it to align with the 173 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,000 head coach. Didn't Davis maybe you point out 174 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,480 how Chicago three times in a row. 175 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,720 I mean it's like the Chicago is like the the best example of 176 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,040 this. Like they already are having to 177 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,640 press the reset button. It's Week 11. 178 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Yeah, so you had Trubisky went in, John Fox was there and then 179 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,840 fired. And you had Fields go in and 180 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Nagy was there and then fired, and now you have this situation 181 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,960 and the coach will be fired. It didn't happen actually that 182 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,240 way for Buffalo, which I know you'll know. 183 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,400 Like they traded Mcdermott's first ever draft pick to the 184 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,520 Chiefs for Mahomes. Like that was the Mahomes pick. 185 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,640 But the Bills, you know, I guess this is a fun debate. 186 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Did did they get away with it by drafting Josh Allen the next 187 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,320 year that that bill's chiefs just continues to just it's so 188 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,800 much fun. It's so interesting. 189 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,800 I don't know, like I talked the bills, so you're feeling. 190 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,880 Good about Bill's chiefs right now. 191 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,720 Today, better than yesterday at this time, but I don't know 192 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:54,240 really apart past Josh Allen, obviously, and defensively, 193 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,720 they're always able to come up with new ways it seems to 194 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,800 confuse or to win past that. What are they good at? 195 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,080 You know, like what is Shakur as a fantasy past that? 196 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,960 McDermott is a great example of it because he clearly is a bad 197 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,000 coach. I think, I think the guys like 198 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,880 him and I think they play for him and I think he. 199 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,080 The Bills would already have one Super Bowl if. 200 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Yeah. You know, I don't know. 201 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,280 So if Dan Campbell or not even, let's not even go. 202 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,680 Dan Campbell, let's go pre downfall Doug Peterson or 203 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:34,200 someone, someone who kind of just gets now that's probably. 204 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,520 I'm, I'm having too long coming up. 205 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,720 He's he's above Doug, but how crazy is it that Campbell might 206 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,640 be the best coach in the league? Remember how much the Nika we 207 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,920 were all like he's. Not Andy and I like and I know 208 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,800 this is going to be unpopular to do day it is it is Andy Reid, 209 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,640 but Andy also I think is very complacent right now. 210 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:54,880 The whole everyone with the Chiefs is just very complacent 211 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,640 right now. No one's really like, I just, I 212 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,960 feel like it's neither here nor there. 213 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:03,280 But McDermott takes points off the table all the time. 214 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,760 He does like Mike. Have you ever forgiven him for 215 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,880 the Jamar Hamlin make a wish moment of the fake punt? 216 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,400 I mean, that's the worst decision a coach has made in a 217 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,400 playoff game in in my memory. Like, it's just you have Josh 218 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,240 Allen, man, you, you, you've got you've got Josh Allen. 219 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,960 You don't need to run a a fake punt. 220 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,920 Well, you know, he's still kicking. 221 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,240 There's something like 57 and 20 in their last 77 regular season 222 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,720 games. And I think McDermott, I I 223 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,320 think, yeah, he has improved. I, I know that was last year, so 224 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,320 maybe this is tough to hear, but like yesterday, the a couple of 225 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,760 big plays in that game were fourth down plays and they were 226 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,240 successful. And if you look up his data, he 227 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,280 knows a lot of it like you. Do you think Do you think he 228 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,480 does the 4th down plays if it's a playoff game though? 229 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,560 Well, last year they did what you said. 230 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,360 So I, I don't know. That's, I think the overall 231 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,520 lesson. I mean, I've been on the string 232 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,440 for many, many years how teams have been wrong when it comes to 233 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,040 that stuff. They've gotten a lot better at 234 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,760 it. And I think you know, he he's 235 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,400 not, he's not what Andy Reid was when he was the Eagles coach. 236 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,560 Yeah, Andy Reid used to be terrible at this. 237 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:19,440 Yeah, Andy Reid was awful. And the clock management, it was 238 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,080 that plus he would list like you'd be. 239 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,320 Like Andy, Andy by the way, Andy messed the the clock up 240 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,280 yesterday too by the. Way he he still. 241 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,280 I think they've been so good that we forget. 242 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,920 I don't know that he ever got better with the clock 243 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,680 management. It's just it's kind of, it 244 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:34,440 doesn't matter as. Much Well, how about, how about 245 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,960 it ends up being totally forgotten. 246 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,120 But against the Broncos, you got to let him score. 247 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,880 You got you, you, you have to let them score. 248 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,920 And Andy's just, you know, kind of hanging out. 249 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,880 He's calling his plays in. He's I didn't know. 250 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,760 I didn't, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe they did not 251 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,400 let estimate score there at the end in the fourth and fourth 252 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,440 quarter when you clearly need to do that. 253 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,000 I mean, they kicked the field goal with 0 seconds left on the 254 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,040 clock. Your win condition is 0 unless 255 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,360 you let them score. Davis, what do you think? 256 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,760 What do you think happens in the AFC from here on? 257 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,000 Oh, the Bills are going to get the one seed now, Now that now 258 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,000 that they've lost one, you know what we're talking. 259 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Oh, yeah. Now like you think you think the 260 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Chiefs were just hanging out before, buddy? 261 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,960 Like, what do you think is going to happen now? 262 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,960 Now that they don't have to deal with the concept of having a 263 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,720 perfect season? They might end up being the four 264 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,600 seed that I guess. Don't they want the one seed? 265 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,640 I don't understand why they would just coast. 266 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,680 Well, they're not very good, man. 267 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,560 They're they're like Juju Smith, Schuster got. 268 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,080 I know, but they might have to start trying a little more, you 269 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,120 know? Juju Smith Schuster got the ball 270 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,840 on a key third down. Juju Smith, Schuster, man, he 271 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,240 got the ball on 1/3. And 8th. 272 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Now he did convert it. He made it. 273 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,440 Which is? Yeah, right. 274 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,120 It felt a little like they were doing some worthy stuff 275 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,440 yesterday they're trying to like. 276 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,200 Well, but he got benched after the so he cuz obviously I'm 277 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,400 watching this stuff very closely. 278 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,360 He catches the 50 yard bomb, has no idea. 279 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,480 Intentionally didn't get in bounds there right. 280 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,760 He slows up. He's like, he like did it. 281 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,320 It was. It was Jonathan Mingo. 282 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,280 It was Jonathan Mingo. It was Mingo asking. 283 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:13,520 Yeah, Why are they? Why is Mahomes putting that ball 284 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,200 so close to the sideline? There's no one there. 285 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,480 Like, wouldn't you just sort? Of well, he's he's so I mean, 286 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,880 that's the really no one wants to talk about it, but his deep 287 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,800 balls have been brutal. I mean, he's been awful. 288 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,160 He he is as messed up. That's the third one this year. 289 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,360 That was a worthy touchdown where he put it in the wrong. 290 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,320 No 4th one this year where he put it in the wrong spot. 291 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,120 Yeah. He's been he's been awful, man. 292 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,000 He he's been really, really bad. This is the worst he's ever 293 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,800 played. This is worse than he. 294 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,080 Yeah, Like this. Default percentage is also crazy 295 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,400 low, like he's rarely taking those shots so when he misses 296 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,040 them it really hurts. That's interesting heading into 297 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,160 the week. That's kind of Alan too. 298 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,440 It's it's it's funny like that. That isn't happening at all. 299 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,040 When I say like, what are they good at? 300 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,720 I mean that's respectful because I know they're nine and two of 301 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,160 the bills and that's a great day for them yesterday. 302 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,480 But really like what Amari Cooper had a couple of kind of 303 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,760 moon ball catches in this game. Shakur gives you the same 7 for 304 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,520 70 whatever ish every week without without a touchdown. 305 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,480 I don't know for fantasy, like they're sort of the Packers plus 306 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,080 where obviously you have Allen. That's sort of a different 307 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,200 subject, different category, but and Cook, but what you do with 308 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,040 their passing game, Kincaid misses the game. 309 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,600 I kind of think nothing against the player, but that's one where 310 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,840 I think it's probably a little bit smoother, less complicated 311 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,960 for the bill because. They feel, they feel bad that 312 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,320 they drafted Dalton Kincaid. So 3 * a game, they draw up a 313 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,840 Kincaid play and he will like, you know, that that infomercial 314 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,440 gift for the guy who's got his arms full and he's falling over 315 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,680 and water's going everywhere. That is Kincaid on on these 316 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,280 plays. It's like he just as Would you 317 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,120 rather have Noah Gray or Dalton Kincaid? 318 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,520 Well, so that's so I think I. Draft Noah Gray When did? 319 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,360 I draft Noah Gray cuz I didn't draft him in the first round. 320 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,480 I think this is actually like a sneaky downside of spending a 321 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,200 first round pick on a tight end, Cuz if you spend a first round 322 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,600 pick on a bad wide receiver, you spent a first round pick on 323 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Johan Dotson, right? The first year looks OK, and 324 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,800 then the next year you're like, this isn't no, yeah. 325 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,240 But pretty quickly he's just like, we're not playing this guy 326 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,440 anymore cuz he's a wide receiver. 327 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,840 You got a bunch of them. Or or you can rotate them like 328 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,840 it just it doesn't be Yeah, you. Can find a little package yeah 329 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,360 but with tight end he's like he's still going to be the best 330 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,760 pass catching tight end that you have most likely so you're. 331 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,920 Kind of stuck just that's such. That's such a good point. 332 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,480 By the way, someone asked for the data on the the deep passing 333 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,720 stuff. I'm pulling it up right now. 334 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,920 It's. 5% Mahomes has the lowest deep pass rate in the league. 335 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Among what's deep 20 yards. 20 yards. 20 plus yards. 336 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,560 Yeah, this is for NFL Next Gen. Second lowest is Aaron Rodgers, 337 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,000 then Mayfield, then Tua, than Minshew. 338 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,080 I mean, this is you. Know that's a club you don't 339 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,680 want to be in. Right now, I believe Josh 340 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,599 Allen's eighth, he he's at 12%. He's still, he's still 341 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:06,040 attacking. He's right behind Will Levison, 342 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,560 ahead of Justin Fields, ahead of James. 343 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,680 So he's still attacking deep. You're talking about percentage 344 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,680 of plays that travel 20 yards through the air or? 345 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Percentage of drop backs Percentage of drop backs on 346 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,720 which you have a 20 yard 20 plus yard pass. 347 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:24,079 And I, I hate to be diplomatic here on the show because. 90 348 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:25,200 percentage of the times I'm not sure. 349 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:30,440 That's not good radio, but the Chiefs and the Bills both won 350 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,360 the worthy Coleman swap where they got the better fit for 351 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,200 their quarterback. Now, Worthy's been awful. 352 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,040 Like before yesterday, I was ready to like, I really in my 353 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,000 head, I was like, this guy's just Nicole Hardman where like 354 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,760 he can't be on a football field. He does not have the attention 355 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,000 to detail or anything like that. I feel a little bit better 356 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,240 yesterday, which is very funny given that he did another 357 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,600 horrible attention to detail. So Coleman's just a way better 358 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,080 fit. Worthy would be Worthy would 359 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,360 would get 6 snaps a game for the bill. 360 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:02,760 He'd be Deonte Hardy there. There'd be no point in him. 361 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,720 And Coleman wouldn't get the ball in Kansas City, either. 362 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,080 Is he like Philip Dorsett like I'm trying to think of? 363 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,400 A No, no, he, what he's got to do is he's got to put on some 364 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,320 weight. He's got, he's he just, he's 365 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,280 going to have to sacrifice some speed and put on some weight. 366 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:22,480 Although he did get crunched by the two Bill safeties on his 367 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,280 first catch yesterday. And pop back up where I was 368 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,040 like, I was ready for like the stretchers to come out and he 369 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,080 got back up and I was like, wow, All right, yeah, but Mahomes 370 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,840 would not throw key on Coleman the ball. 371 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,400 You think Mahomes is throwing rookies 5050 balls? 372 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,720 Dude. Not not a chance in hell, dude. 373 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,880 He he he would be Justin Watson on. 374 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,240 Kansas Quick, quick thought on Mcconkey, who was the player I 375 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,600 wanted here on the Friday and we had all day. 376 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,440 Both of these teams would have been better off with. 377 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,280 Last did. Did they each have a little bit 378 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,480 more of an overlap there with or with Shakur? 379 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,200 I don't know. But Lad played 79% of his. 380 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,480 Snaps on. The outside he, he just is. 381 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,760 He's just, I mean, he just is a great player. 382 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,840 He's he's. AI think lad would be perfect 383 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,760 with the chiefs like that's kind of exactly what what his version 384 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,680 of Mahomes wants and he I mean I guess he's kind of rice ish but 385 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,520 you know still. You could play him on the 386 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,760 outside, though. I mean, the the bills and the 387 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,400 Chiefs both have a wide receiver who doesn't earn targets. 388 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,120 They have Matt Collins and they have Justin Watson who plays all 389 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:25,240 these snaps. And and I mean, honestly, I 390 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,280 guess Hollands the last two weeks has gotten targets, but 391 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,400 like they just, they just are, it is kind of crazy of an 392 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,800 offensive philosophy to try and play 10 on 11. 393 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,440 They it like isn't that great. Like they're both of these teams 394 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,920 are just kind of being like, you got to stick out one corner on 395 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,640 this guy, but he's never getting the ball. 396 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,120 That sucks too, to have Watson when you have worth, because 397 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,640 worthy should be that guy that where you're just like, we're 398 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,640 going to sacrifice. This all comes back to the 399 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,240 sliding glass doors of why I'm having a bad fantasy season 400 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,600 which is Hollywood injuring his shoulder on the 1st play of the 401 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,600 season and pre season. I I, I I. 402 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,480 Mean rice. Rice staying healthy would be 403 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,040 huge. Would have been what I mean. 404 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,080 Imagine. I would I would even go supposed 405 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,240 to say more important than Hollywood Brown right stays 406 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,960 healthy. Oh, sure, sure, sure. 407 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,680 For my first day, I mean, looks like my first day ever in radio, 408 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,920 I wrote up all these ideas and topics. 409 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Now I understand how this guy, this show goes two hours because 410 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,400 nothing has come up yet. But that's cool. 411 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,080 It's it's fun, it's good. It's good, good content. 412 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,080 Anthony, let's get to a topic. But that's that'd be good. 413 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,120 I'm ready for one. I cannot wait to be able to talk 414 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:35,160 about Anthony Richardson. And I've got a question at the 415 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,880 end of this absolutely stellar return out of nowhere, like last 416 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,080 week at this time he was, we were cutting him in the FSC. 417 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Joe's Joe's our quarterback this time. 418 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:52,200 Last week, last Monday, the game could not have gone much better 419 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,080 for the Richard. The many Richardson believers. 420 00:20:55,080 --> 00:21:00,320 270 passing yards win on the road, Last minute drive where 421 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:05,680 you needed the touchdown and you got it on one of two absolute 422 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,960 truck stick runs by the quarterback. 423 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:10,960 Is he going to play? Think of the preseason. 424 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,920 Is he going to play this year carefully to not get hurt? 425 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,400 Do the Colts want to do that? It kind of did. 426 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,000 And you know, he he goes from tapping out, creating a, you 427 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:26,120 know, all the conversation that we got after that to running 428 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:29,320 over people in the end zone with the game on the line. 429 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,980 I mean I'm all I think I'm almost all the way back to pre 430 00:21:33,980 --> 00:21:37,840 season vibes on him which is OK. That question was kind of 431 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,920 answered yesterday. My question is, I wonder if 432 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,280 either of you would give the Colts any credit at all for what 433 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,080 has happened here in the last 2-3 weeks. 434 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,920 Zero. If they win either of those 435 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,800 games with Flacco in there, it's still, it's still Flacco. 436 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,920 Flacco doesn't play so bad, it's still him. 437 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:02,360 I would also say that based on Mike's feelings here, this is a 438 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,960 good day to go try and sell Anthony Richardson and. 439 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,680 You could get a 2025 first for. Anthony, it's time. 440 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,720 It's time. Remember, like you know, if any, 441 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,480 any crypto enthusiast, any, any situation where you've gone, if 442 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,800 you just gave me one day, put this cell window, I would sell. 443 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,280 And then it comes and you go, wow. 444 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Now we're going back up. You're not going back up. 445 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,520 I don't think we're going back up with Anthony Richardson. 446 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,320 I think we're this is this is the the the light here. 447 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,720 This is the one day where you've got to make a move, not to say 448 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,720 it's all going to. Literally no. 449 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,560 Literally the one day like this is the day. 450 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,040 It might not come crashing out right away, but like, we know 451 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,640 it's a volatile, he's a volatile quarterback. 452 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,320 Do you know the Colts play next week? 453 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,360 I do Detroit. You got, you got like four days, 454 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:48,800 dude. Well, isn't the worst situation 455 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,800 because they have the passage? But you get, you get down 14 456 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,880 points from the job and then and then you just have to drop back. 457 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,320 There were great throws yesterday. 458 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:00,520 I mean, he made great throws. You can see the arm talent like 459 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,720 the timing was good. Do you know who they who they 460 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,600 play after Detroit? It goes like this. 461 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,360 New England, Denver, all right, not easy, but that's the team 462 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:13,520 they're right next to in the in the playoff picture. 463 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,240 Tennessee Giants, Jacksonville, That's the rest of the way for 464 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,160 the Colts. I mean, that's probably probably 465 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,080 3-4 more wins. They stay in it. 466 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,680 And I don't know what that means necessarily to his trade value 467 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,880 like you guys are talking. But I'm just so glad it happened 468 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,080 because the Colts were a pathetic, pathetic, miserable 469 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,160 situation with Flacco in there. At least. 470 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,400 However it happened, They got to Richardson. 471 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,520 They told the story about, oh, it's practice habits. 472 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,960 I don't know. I mean, I don't want to give 473 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,920 them any credit either, but it's a it's. 474 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,440 A Anthony Richardson I I have a decent amount of Anthony 475 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,800 Richardson in basketball and somehow some of those teams are 476 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,920 still alive. So for that purpose, I'm 477 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,400 excited. You know, like give me, give me, 478 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,640 frankly, playing time. That's great. 479 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,280 You know, I didn't think I was getting that anymore. 480 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,840 So that's already a win. And then show me that ceiling 481 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,640 that you can pop off for these types of games. 482 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,600 I think we could end up kind of having an Anthony Richardson 483 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,400 suck out in in basketball world, but I don't think I'm going back 484 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,200 for more next year. No, that's that's expensive. 485 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,480 In any way? We got away with it situation. 486 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Yeah, it feels really like a guy. 487 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,080 You can't get benched for Joe Flacco and then be like, you 488 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,240 know, in a Joe's our guy. I mean, isn't like Sam Darnold's 489 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,680 going to be here next year or someone else? 490 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,000 They're not going to just go completely not doing Tommy 491 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,640 DeVito is the is the guy they're. 492 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,560 No, I think I think they are. I think that's the lesson is 493 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,800 that Flacco was too good. Like he was somebody that had he 494 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,040 was in the playoffs last year. He's the comeback player of the 495 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:43,960 year. He's always sort of like 496 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,840 knocking on the door. We have this guy over here and 497 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,880 the tap out sort of in a crooked sort of way, kind of saved 498 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Richardson because it gave the Colts this extra edit. 499 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,560 Was he right to tap out? It turns out, yes, it worked out 500 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,680 for him. Oh, OK. 501 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,800 I didn't know what this meant to play in the NFL and be a 502 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,760 quarterback For now, I do. I got it, and he goes in. 503 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,120 Maybe I'm a little bit too excited about what yesterday was 504 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:11,600 based on the opponent, but on the road last minute, that's 505 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,400 that's good. The The thing is, though, is 506 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,920 that he did not show me anything yesterday that he has not done 507 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,520 before. It's not like he came out and 508 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,960 completed a bunch of short crossers to Josh Downs. 509 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,400 He he hit out the the play of the game. 510 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,960 The play of the game was not even as good as the best play of 511 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,720 of week one of the I mean, it's not like anyone's like, oh, 512 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,400 Anthony Richardson doesn't have the arm talent. 513 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,880 Anthony Richardson is not a great rusher. 514 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:43,400 It's just all of the things together that he can't really. 515 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,320 I'll tell you, I'll tell you this actually the play of the 516 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,160 game. He made first drive of the game 517 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,600 second and seven. They put AD Mitchell on the 518 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,800 field for one of his five routes where he's not going to get 519 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,040 distracted by a blade of grass and. 520 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,760 He looks so good when he actually gets the. 521 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,600 Kind of he he was kind of a little bit of pressure and he 522 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,960 kind of adjusted his arm angle and he completed a A6 yard 523 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,640 crossing. Like not even a crosser, just a 524 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,680 slant. And Mitchell got it in stride 525 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,720 first down and that play, I was like, well, maybe if he can make 526 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,440 that play. And he also completed 1/3 and 13 527 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,720 to downs where the play broke down a little bit and his first 528 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,480 instrument was to run, but he hung in the pocket for a second. 529 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,760 I agree with the commenters who say that Anthony Richardson is 530 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,040 good. The thing is though, is Anthony 531 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,240 Richardson, you cannot play him like he's Joe Burrow. 532 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,560 You can't play him like he's Jared Goff, like you have to 533 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,440 accept that he's going to complete like 49% of his passes 534 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,920 because right, he is just going to miss throws. 535 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,800 And it feels like the Colts organization is not happy with 536 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,880 that deal. I don't. 537 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,280 Know that's that's the part of it that I am that has really 538 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,840 shaken my faith in what we're getting when we draft Anthony 539 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,560 Richardson. You know, we're investing them 540 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,360 in dynasty is that I thought that they had made that bargain 541 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,480 and we're happy with it. And then pretty quickly they 542 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,680 were like, no, no, no, we would much prefer just Joe Flacco 543 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,800 playing a little bit better than you'd expect, you know, And then 544 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000 Joe Flacco played a lot worse than you'd expect. 545 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,600 And they're like, OK, we're down to go to Richardson. 546 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,600 And then he has a big game. But we're, I mean, Richardson is 547 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,880 going to be streaky as hell. You know, this is this is going 548 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,960 to go down as maybe his best game of his career. 549 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,440 Maybe. Really. 550 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,800 Maybe. Yeah, so I you know, it, it 551 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,640 makes it, I mean, we'll obviously all have a lot more 552 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,440 information for Bestball before we have to make that decision. 553 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,560 But like again, for Dynasty, I think this is a good day to send 554 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,240 offers and and have someone think they're getting one over 555 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,360 on you. You you could get trade. 556 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,000 If you really caught someone in a spot today that has trades on 557 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,920 right now, you could get a 2025 first and like a good veteran, 558 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,360 you know, like a veteran who like you, maybe you're not going 559 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,320 to want next year, but could score points this year. 560 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,880 Like I'm in a league that allows I'm going to, I'm in a league 561 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,360 that allows trading all the way until the Super Bowl. 562 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:14,480 And if I had Richardson, I'd be like, OK, I'll take a 2025 563 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,440 first. Sam Darnold. 564 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,880 Sam Darnold and and like and like, I don't know, a a Josh 565 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,280 Jacobsy, Chase Brown Like just like. 566 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,120 I think you're asking too much there. 567 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,560 I think you get get your Darnold in a first and and be happy. 568 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,440 This had better be a one QB league. 569 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,880 No, Super Plex. I'm I'm looking at, I'm looking 570 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,680 at, I'm looking at rankings right now. 571 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,560 All right, maybe you're, maybe you can ask, maybe you can ask 572 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,480 for more Davis. We finally got to a point where 573 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,000 everything went right and we're getting out. 574 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,200 I. I don't feel I'm older than you 575 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,120 guys. I would never. 576 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,160 I'm older than you guys. I'm just going to play it safer 577 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,240 and start them against Detroit plus 8 total. 578 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,200 I don't think it's there's nothing safe about Anthony 579 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,080 Richardson now the the safety net is gone. 580 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,720 He has to play well going forward or he's or he's. 581 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,680 I'll, I'll ask. You this another option because 582 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,240 Steiken could get fired. That's the other thing. 583 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,120 Like they could bring in someone else who's like I'm not dealing 584 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,560 with this dude. This guy just got a coach. 585 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,440 Fired. They're going to win four more 586 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,200 games. They're going to be right if 587 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,680 they if they win the Denver game. 588 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,440 Patriots, Giants, Titans. Jaguars. 589 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,560 Oh, the Patriots are going to beat them, I think. 590 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,680 That would be so sweet. The the the thing with diocese 591 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,120 is you just never want to have to be right, Right. 592 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,960 So like, if they don't win four games, then are you holding the 593 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,600 bag on this dude? And I think you probably are. 594 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,080 Doesn't he have off worst case scenario? 595 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,440 I don't ask that. I mean, what what is his sort of 596 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,440 men value in the offseason? Like we were talking like his 597 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,760 career was kind of over after 10 starts. 598 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Dude, he could be worth. He could be Justin Fields man. 599 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,080 Yeah, it's field. It's a field. 600 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,920 Situation. It could be Fields where he's 601 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,680 benched for Andy Dalton next year or whoever. 602 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,720 I think it's like a field situation where they bring in 603 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,960 adult or not adult, no, a Darnold, something like that, 604 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,840 where that's like he's still the guy, but it's very clear that he 605 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,240 has a super short leash and no one feels comfortable investing 606 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,440 really anything in. Him well, if if the Bears don't 607 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,360 luck into the Carolina trade, Fields was their quarterback 608 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,120 this year, at least at the beginning. 609 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,120 Like, you know, that's different with Indianapolis. 610 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,960 I think they're not going to have they do they bring in a 611 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,520 better veteran. They just kind of did that. 612 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,840 They might have brought in Darnold. 613 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,800 They why They could have been the Darnold team. 614 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960 The Bears. The Bears Why could the Bears 615 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,400 not have been the Darnold team? Yeah, that's a good point. 616 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,840 They could have, but he wouldn't have started week 1. 617 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,160 He wouldn't have started week one. 618 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,240 Maybe you know they that gets there for them but right OK. 619 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,840 Yeah, it's just if there's a bunch of value still there, like 620 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,240 if you, if you could go get Donald a first and a running 621 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,240 back like I'm doing that, you know, because the first to me 622 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,720 the safest asset, the deal there is the first pretty clearly 623 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,160 because the first is gonna have value next year. 624 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,640 The first will be worth the 1st. OK, I guess I should say it 625 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,640 depends if it profiles as an early one or a late 1, because 626 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,480 there are a couple super blue chippers in this year's draft. 627 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,720 Like super mega, like crazy. There are no quarterbacks 628 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,080 though. That's going to be, it's going 629 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,560 to be so fun when we transition to the offseason stuff. 630 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,440 I, I don't think there's going to be a quarterback who goes in 631 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,920 the first round. I, I am, I'm right now would be 632 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480 surprised if Cam Ward goes in the first round. 633 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,920 Maybe Bo Nicks honestly will change that because Bo Nicks is 634 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,000 old and playing so well. So maybe. 635 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,160 Team Ward quarterbacks so bad that I bet, I bet one does. 636 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,360 I mean, we would have said Bo Nicks and Penex like even on the 637 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,920 day I didn't think Penex would go first round, even top 10. 638 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,920 So I don't think you're ever like taking that big of a risk 639 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,160 to. Chadur is going to get some 640 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,080 coach so fired, man. So, so Chadur, what? 641 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,960 Whatever Chadur the his coach, his second year of his career 642 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,920 bet on that guy to be the first quarterback or first coach fired 643 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,200 because man, is he going to get somebody fired. 644 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,520 There, there are a few teams, there always are a few teams 645 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,360 that would be quarterback, round one, quarterback candidates. 646 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,280 But there are so many have come out in the last couple of years 647 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,240 and so many teams have, including Richardson and Tennix 648 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,960 and so on. They've already sort of made 649 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,800 their bet. And those guys are one or two 650 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,160 years in. So I don't know how many it 651 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,480 really is, probably 3 or 4, but not teams like, you know, Denver 652 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,760 or I mean Atlanta doing it last year even that was pretty crazy. 653 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,880 Yeah, I mean, teams have started to sell themselves on that, you 654 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,880 know, like the Packers with love and everything. 655 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,680 I don't think the Falcon situation was really that 656 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,320 comparable to that, but they do, you know, they think it's 657 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,160 similar enough that they did it. So, you know, you're that thins 658 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,640 out an already pretty thin pool of startable NFL quarterbacks. 659 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,440 So I don't know, like if you're the Raiders, I guess if you get 660 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,320 it depends if they hire because and how much leash that that 661 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,400 team feels like they have. But it can even if you're, you 662 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,480 know, a really like hot name and get the the head coaching job, 663 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,080 like you can't lose for like two or three seasons. 664 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,560 You're going to get fired. Like you have to you have to be 665 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,920 able to sell hope. So I don't know if you're the 666 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,080 Raiders, you're just like, there's such a strong incentive 667 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,720 to to dress. Man, the Raiders aren't the 668 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,320 Raiders, the shuder team. That's that's what's going to 669 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,480 happen. The Raiders. 670 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,800 The Raiders. Hire. 671 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,640 Dion they hire Dion, they take shuder. 672 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,440 It's the most Raiders thing I've ever heard in my life. 673 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,280 That's that's the most Raiders thing I've ever heard to the 674 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,000 point that I actually want it to happen and I want it to work. 675 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,480 I want them to win 9 games with a with a father. 676 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,120 And son, head coach quarter, please. 677 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,440 That'd be happy. That'd be. 678 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,440 Amazing. And sign and sign Justin Fields 679 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,760 as the backup so that so that you've got that going on too. 680 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,080 That sounds that sounds pretty good. 681 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560 Pretty good. So just to move on from 682 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,840 Indianapolis, which I think is where we were. 683 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,360 So the way too early drafts on underdog. 684 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,000 That's a team. You guys tell me, I'm not sure. 685 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,640 Davis, I know you have one coming up today. 686 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,200 I've been in there yet because you know, I look at it and I'm 687 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,040 like, oh jeez, I don't know. What are Pat and Davis or Pete 688 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,960 going to say? If I draft this and this, like 689 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,159 I'm not prepared. And then the other part of my 690 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:18,400 brain goes, Mike, it's $3. Really, you don't have to worry 691 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,480 about it. You could just draft. 692 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,440 You could spend 3 American dollars on one of these teams 693 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,480 and just sort of take all your Colts, whatever it is. 694 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,440 But what is Maybe if you have any thoughts on this, like some 695 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,360 strategy at this point, this very early point, way too early 696 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,920 point of playoff drafting? People are are pretty 697 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,480 consistently the worst at this format of anything that the dog 698 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,600 app offers. Like they just no matter how 699 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:48,440 much content people, not everyone, but I'd say 25 to 35% 700 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,239 of the pool just drafts for the min cash. 701 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,719 So like, they're taking uncorrelated teams, they're 702 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,040 taking teams that can't have 5 active for the Super Bowl. 703 00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,120 Well, I'll say one thing I'm doing now that I'm probably not 704 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,320 going to do when the gauntlet and the mitten pops open. 705 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,000 I'm doing a lot of two quarterback teams early. 706 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:13,160 Like I'm taking like Goth and Mahomes or I'm taking Mahomes 707 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,080 and Jaden Daniels or Josh Allen and Jaden Daniels or or 708 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,800 something like that just because I, there's just a lot. 709 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,400 I mean, there's a lot of football that's it's way too 710 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,720 early. We're we're 11 weeks away. 711 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:27,360 There's a lot of chaos. One seed stuff is pretty up in 712 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,000 the air like so I I'm doing more of that than I will. 713 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,480 That's a risk tolerance thing. I think because you can, you 714 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,760 know, you got to think what happens when the teams that I'm 715 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,080 drafting get the buy that I didn't think we're going to get. 716 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,200 And if you're drafting like that, then you have another 717 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,360 quarterback who gets through. Now, I would do that with, you 718 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,840 know, we're going, you don't want to draft those teams and 719 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,240 have there be a realistic chance that both teams have the bike. 720 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,280 The the thing not. Mitigating risk then. 721 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,840 So the thing for me that is different right now is that the 722 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,800 market is inefficient enough right now that you can still get 723 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,960 guys in the ninth and 10th round who are going to get points in 724 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,680 Week 1 like in the wild card round like for example. 725 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,600 Pickens. You, you can. 726 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,040 Well, I was more thinking like teams that are Super Bowl 727 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:24,280 eligible, like you can get, you can get, I don't know, Dawson 728 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,600 Knox in round 10 or whatever, or you can get you can get Kareem 729 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,720 Hunt or P Rhine. Guys like these who are on top 730 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:36,360 for you can get. I mean, I know he doesn't get 731 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,760 any targets, but like you can get Tim Patrick and Khalif 732 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:44,160 Raymond in round 10. You can get Kenneth Gainwell 733 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,920 like you can. I mean Gainwell probably is a 734 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,840 bad example. These are this year's Jawan 735 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,800 Jennings. Yeah, Dallas Goddard is super 736 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,760 cheap in these, for example. Yeah. 737 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,040 I mean the other, the other thing though with the two 738 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,080 quarterback stuff is that you can again, it's a risk tolerance 739 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,680 thing. The other way to play it is that 740 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,520 you go, no, I'm just taking all in. 741 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,960 I'm taking one court and I'm betting that my Chiefs, when I 742 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,880 draft the Chiefs on slot, I'm betting that they don't get the 743 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,160 buy. Everyone assumes they're getting 744 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,480 the buy and that this will be one of the best teams in the 745 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,520 tournament because they don't get the buy. 746 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,640 And that will be the way that I advance because I have Chief 747 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,320 scoring points when people didn't think they would score 748 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,360 points. And then they go to the Super 749 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,080 Bowl and now I have just the the absolute nuts in the Super. 750 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,080 Bowl the The general thing is to just draft as many eligible 5 751 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,160 man Super Bowl rosters as possible. 752 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,520 Like be like I, I, I I think that is the right way to. 753 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,920 Think about it, the the tip that Sacrilegious did last year that 754 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,120 kind of changed the way I think about it and I think it was 755 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,160 really helpful, is that try to assemble usually with only three 756 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,400 teams, not 4, but try to assemble the AFC and NFC 757 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,880 championship games. That that is because if you 758 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,280 have, right, because potentially you could end up in a scenario 759 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,280 where you've got one AFC team and two NFC teams. 760 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,360 You get there either way. And you get there either way. 761 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,800 And then I also think like from a conceptual point, it's it's 762 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,800 it's almost easier to think through like who's likely to 763 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,480 play each other in the championship games than it is to 764 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,240 be like who's making Super Bowl. Because you can almost tell 765 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,280 yourself any story about who they're going to go on some 766 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,880 magical run and make the Super Bowl. 767 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,720 But it's it's almost easier to because it's like less of a moon 768 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,800 shot. You know, I think you're almost 769 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,000 more realistic about like, OK, who's going to be in the the NFC 770 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,080 Conference championship? Which which side is more wide 771 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,200 open or better for like a dart throw? 772 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,880 NFC There are only three teams that can make the Super Bowl in 773 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,960 the AFC The Chiefs, the Bills and the Ravens. 774 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,840 I I would be, wouldn't you be unbelievably floored if any of 775 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,640 the other teams in the AFC made it? 776 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,920 Yeah, honestly, one of the other teams maybe would have been the 777 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,120 Bengals, and now they're probably. 778 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,160 And now they're probably not going to make the playoffs. 779 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,040 They're they're sub 25% to make the. 780 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,080 Playoffs what? What about San Francisco for 781 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,840 this? I'm, I'm like not taking them 782 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,640 right now because not only do I think like it's possible they 783 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,560 miss, but I think they might just get blown out if they, if 784 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,080 they make they're, they're terrible, man. 785 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,400 I think I'm still down to dabble with San Francisco. 786 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,480 I would be no respect for the Steelers, so as an homage to 787 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,880 Sam, may I contribute some truth serum, please? 788 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,280 If that's all right, I am convinced the Steelers have some 789 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,240 way of affecting field goals in their home stadium so that all 790 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:48,680 of theirs are good and all of yours are not some version of 791 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,360 Gary. Jones, Son in the Eyes. 792 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,320 Yeah, the remember the door at Giants Stadium. 793 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,320 I was always the rumor that somebody when your team was 794 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,000 kicking a field goal, they would open a door in the tunnel and 795 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,640 the wind would. I went to a pit game a month 796 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,040 ago. It was Cal Pit, and I'm sitting 797 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,160 there with my son and guy next to me was great. 798 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,080 Big pit fan. We were just in town for one of 799 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,320 my son's lacrosse tournaments. And pit the pit Panthers college 800 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,760 football. They lined up for a 60 yard 801 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,400 field goal at Heinz Field and like buddy, this is going 802 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,480 through and it did it even it even extends to the college team 803 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,240 that plays in this state somehow if Justin tick, Justin Tucker is 804 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,520 lined up for a field goal, you know, the third one. 805 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,000 We can't make this too obvious. So we'll get we'll allow him to 806 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,120 make the third one. But the first two forget it. 807 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,040 This is still a game, and Boswell has Is anybody in the 808 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,760 chat in on the show old enough to remember a Steelers kicker 809 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,280 missing a field goal in at Heinz Field? 810 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,680 I I don't think it's ever happened. 811 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,200 Wasn't the turf always? Getting a bunch of crap there. 812 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,720 Sorry, yeah. Sorry. 813 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:54,760 Go ahead, Davis. Look, if the government can 814 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,800 manipulate the weather, why can't we have magnets in the 815 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,640 goal posts to move the football? Feels pretty simple. 816 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,000 Yeah, I do think those theories do sort of carry equal weight in 817 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:09,480 my mind. I'll put it like that, yeah. 818 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,440 The Steelers just in looking at like Super Bowl odds and stuff, 819 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,360 they're, they're super low. So yeah. 820 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,120 Well, they're they're, they're eight and two, they've got the 821 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,600 Browns twice, They've got the Bengals twice, for what that's 822 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,800 worth. I mean, they're probably in 823 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,000 pretty good shape to get to. They have a tough schedule, but 824 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,000 11-12 wins, if they win that division. 825 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,160 I mean you you could have a Baltimore at Pittsburgh first 826 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,720 round. Right, this, this would, I think 827 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:46,080 be my advice is that it's very tempting to get fancy in these 828 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,840 contests and be like, Oh my God, think about how much equity I'm 829 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,920 going to gain when the Chargers win the AFCI. 830 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,320 Think it's very similar to the draft games on underdog, the six 831 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,480 man drafts where yes, you can create a ton of leverage, but 832 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,680 you are giving up. If you think about it, you are 833 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,560 giving up quote UN quote a lot of points because of the way the 834 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,520 implied probabilities are. Right now, the implied 835 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:15,360 probabilities of the market have over 35% of the entire market 836 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,720 generated on not making the Super Bowl, winning the Super 837 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,000 Bowl for the Bills and the Chiefs. 838 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,000 So then you extrapolate that out to making the Super Bowl and 839 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,400 you've got like, what is that set 60? 840 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,120 It's like 65% or something implied probability. 841 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,200 So and then on the NFC side, it's it's even it's it's it's 842 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,800 even wider on the NFC side where the market is giving a ton of 843 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,440 respect to the 49ers. But the the 49ers, like the 844 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,240 49ers have better Super Bowl odds than I think 3 teams ahead 845 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:51,360 of them in the standings. You know, like marker tassel 846 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,240 just said it in the chat. Playoff basketball is such an 847 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:55,840 exploitable game where you can just play for the relatively 848 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:02,000 common outcomes and still print because so much of their so much 849 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,800 of the field. Maybe they're drawing live, but 850 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,080 they're it's fancy like oh. A lot of the field is not 851 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,320 drawing live. That's the big thing with 852 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,560 playoff basketball is that as it was last year and as it probably 853 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,240 will be this year, a lot of the a lot of the field, he's not 854 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:23,600 drafting teams that are live to win, right? 855 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,000 They, they are drafting teams where they have a kind of a 856 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:33,080 decision and basically they can tack on Ricky Pearsall, right? 857 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:38,320 Or they can tack on Jonathan Taylor or George Pickens and 858 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,840 they tack on the guy who they think is going to score more 859 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,200 points. But the problem is that they are 860 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,440 that's their third or fourth AFC team. 861 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,160 And so they're not going to get to the Super Bowl with enough 862 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,400 players that can actually fill out a starting line up. 863 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,440 And then these big tournaments, that means you are dead for 864 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,760 first. So knowing that the field is 865 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,480 still like the last data point we have on this, a lot of the 866 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,200 field was still doing that. If you're just not doing that, 867 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,320 then you have a big edge. And then then you can build like 868 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,400 play basketball is very fun because you're telling me like I 869 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,160 can just build like well constructed versions of the most 870 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,120 likely outcomes. And I have a huge edge. 871 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:27,280 Like, OK, you know, the I think maybe the 2027 version of this, 872 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,120 you're going to have to go, all right, you got to go. 873 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,000 We got to start taking a little bit bigger stance on which teams 874 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,560 are going to make the Super Bowl and be willing to take on more. 875 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,560 Risk, you know what? Great. 876 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,840 That's a, that is a great point. That is a great point that when 877 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,720 the field is better at it, you're going to have to be like, 878 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:48,640 well, actually now it does make sense to be taking Bengals 49ers 879 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,400 teams in these playoffs contests because that is not covered by 880 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,160 the field. But right now, Chiefs, Bills. 881 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:01,680 Lions, Eagles. Yeah, like in the future, I 882 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960 think you'd basically want to fiddle with the projections and 883 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,120 say, yeah, I'm going to bet that the projections of who was 884 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,840 making the Super Bowl are wrong in these, you know, limited in 885 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,720 sharp ways that basically I think the Bengals are going to 886 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:16,760 make a run now. And I'm going to bet I'm going 887 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,240 to draft like the Bengals win out. 888 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:22,960 And and what does that do? You know, in these tournaments? 889 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,400 I think you could do that, but I wouldn't make that like a big 890 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,520 part of what I'm trying to do because you're you're giving up 891 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:34,320 your fair share of the sharp Bills, Chiefs, Lions for, you 892 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,920 know, whoever, whoever you like you. 893 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,560 Know, and none of this is even getting into player take stuff 894 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,520 by the way of like, oh, there's something exploitable here where 895 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,480 Samaj P Ryan is getting undrafted on Chiefs teams. 896 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,760 But some percentage of the time when the Chiefs make the Super 897 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,400 Bowl, P Ryan is playing the McKinnon snaps and scores a 13 898 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,920 yard touchdown or whatever. So like so that's before you. 899 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,600 That's true. That would be before even what 900 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,880 we're saying with the Bengals, Yeah. 901 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,520 Yeah, like that, like that is like you before even getting 902 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,760 into that level stuff of like, yeah, you, we, we, there, there 903 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,120 are play, there are player take stuffs here for sure. 904 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:13,080 Trying to middle this, then respecting like the the 905 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,480 difference drafting now and then later a couple of teams that I 906 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,040 want to find out what side you might be on or even just sort of 907 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,440 moving on from the the draft part of it. 908 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,880 Just getting a sense of the outlook. 909 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,800 The Packers at 7:00 and 3:00. There's another team that got 910 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,160 away with it yesterday on a missed field goal at the end of 911 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,720 the game. Fantasy wise, still somewhat, 912 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,400 well, maybe not perplexing. I was going to say Christian 913 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,240 Watson yesterday, 4 for 150, nothing from Wix. 914 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,080 I guess there's some correlation there. 915 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,360 How good do you guys feel, Pat? How good do you feel about Green 916 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,840 Bay, either in the context of the the playoff stuff or just 917 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,800 even fantasy in general? Green Bay is, I think, an 918 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,320 interesting one because you can you can tack. 919 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,640 There's like enough pieces. It's like a pretty deep team and 920 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,680 it's like it's also wide receiver and flex pieces. 921 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,880 One of the things that play at best ball is you like you really 922 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,800 want your running backs tied to your quarterbacks And like the 923 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,800 way roster construction works is that you don't want to draft 924 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,720 many running backs and therefore you don't want to burn running 925 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:18,480 backs. And so you want to the teams 926 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,800 that are more interesting to take like kind of late tackle on 927 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,880 Flyers. Like, oh, you know what, I'm 928 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,480 actually going to add a fourth team in this bill, the second 929 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,720 NFC team. It would be spots where I can 930 00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:33,680 add wider super tight end and you know, the Packers have 931 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,240 Watson and and Wicks, I guess, and craft. 932 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,840 So they've got these like later later dark. 933 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,920 Girls, they only ran 46 plays on offense yesterday. 934 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,080 They do seem to be a conservative. 935 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,640 I guess that is the problem is that they do. 936 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,400 They have been a pretty conservative run first run heavy 937 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,000 team even with love but. You like? 938 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,760 Do you like them or Minnesota more? 939 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,880 Pains, pains me to say it because I'm such a KOC Jefferson 940 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,280 slappy, but like, this is a team that is just begging to lose a 941 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,400 home playoff game. Just just absolutely begging to 942 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,120 lose a home. Playoff, I think I prefer the 943 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,480 Packers too. Yeah, yeah, I'd like the 944 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,520 quarterback better. I think the coaching is probably 945 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,920 pretty similar and then in terms of playoff basketball, stuff 946 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,360 like it's a deeper team. Like if I'm tacking on a piece a 947 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,040 little bit later, there's some like there's a much better odds 948 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,880 of them actually contributing, you know, like I don't want to 949 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,680 have to pay it for Jefferson. That's the. 950 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,720 Who? Who is Minnesota? 951 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:38,360 Sorry to move so fast on you guys. 952 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,440 Who is Minnesota's Week 1 starter next year? 953 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,000 Darnold. He's on a one year deal, he's on 954 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,400 a one year deal. It's going to be it's. 955 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,200 Going to be the Gino. It's going to be the Gino thing. 956 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,960 They brought Gino into Seattle on a one year deal. 957 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,120 He played well. They make the playoffs. 958 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,480 I think it's McCarthy, man. I think they think they start 959 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,760 McCarthy. I think that's the year the 960 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,480 Seahawks lost in San Francisco in the first round, maybe. 961 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,720 I can't, I don't, you know, honestly Pat it just to me, it's 962 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:08,880 kind of just like what happens in the playoffs. 963 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,000 Like imagine they imagine they win a road game against the 964 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,720 Lions or something. Oh well, sure, if they beat the 965 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:18,680 lions on the road I will change my tune. 966 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,680 But where it stands right now, I mean, Darnold looks very much 967 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,760 like a product of the system and the weapons. 968 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,000 For sure. And they have a really good 969 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,680 defense too. So it's like it's not even just 970 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,520 the offense carrying them. And they spent a first round 971 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,560 pick on McCarthy if as long as his knee. 972 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,360 I know he had that second surgery, but it didn't seem like 973 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,960 it changed the timeline. If you know, if it doesn't look 974 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,240 like he's going to be like fully ready to go if he misses a big 975 00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:44,120 part of the offseason program, then again, I reserve the right 976 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,840 to change my mind. But as it stands right now, I 977 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,360 think it's probably McCarthy. Let's get Darnold to Vegas. 978 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,600 Does he throw with the tight end? 979 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,320 He does. Let's get Let's get Donald to 980 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,680 Vegas. How about Bowers? 981 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,840 I mean, Bowers is would Bowers he's going to so right now 982 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,720 Bowers is going to break the record for most receptions ever 983 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,720 for a rookie. We're doing a dynasty startup 984 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,560 tomorrow, superflex tight end premium. 985 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,480 Where does Bowers is the blank non QB. 986 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,360 So so take the quarterbacks out of it. 987 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,640 I'll hide Jefferson, Chase Bowers. 988 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,800 Bowers, that's what I would do. Yep. 989 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,520 You could argue to me to take him over either the wide 990 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:35,840 receivers, honestly, because like, someone was making this 991 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,240 point. I've been doing a bad job at 992 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,640 remembering who makes these points on on Twitter. 993 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:44,240 But someone, someone made the point that, like the way Bowers 994 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:48,720 is being used is not like Pitts being awesome as a rookie. 995 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,800 It's it's he's just much more dominant, dude. 996 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,760 Yeah, like. It's also much like, I think for 997 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,160 our purposes, we want the guy to be a little bit more of a PPR 998 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,600 scam kind of underneath. Like just give us the 999 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,640 consistency. A tight end, you're gonna give 1000 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,040 me consistency like. You're gonna get, you're gonna 1001 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,120 give me wide receiver 1 stats at tight end. 1002 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,760 Yeah, I'm, I'm taking. Yeah, just like a a sweet target 1003 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,760 share, you know, on on very catchable targets and then 1004 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,160 adding yards after catch. It's that's The thing is it's 1005 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,400 not like he's just a PPR scam. He's got a 55 yard touchdown and 1006 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,200 a 35 yard touchdown already this season, right? 1007 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,600 I I think that's my top three including quarterbacks by the 1008 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,040 way, I think that would be still my top three. 1009 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,760 So the quarterback market is kind of getting shaken up in 1010 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,520 super? Parts huh? 1011 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,800 My headphones just died. With like you. 1012 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,760 Know well who who is QB one in in dynasty in Davis's draft 1013 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,880 tomorrow is it? I think it would be Lamar 1014 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,480 Jackson for me. Probably Lamar. 1015 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,160 Yeah, it's probably Lamar, but it could be. 1016 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,720 I mean, I think Allen still has a case. 1017 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,720 Yeah, they, they both. They're going to be the state 1018 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,080 Daniels. Yeah, much younger. 1019 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,800 Daniels I think the thing with Daniels is that you're not 1020 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,200 gaining that much in terms of like what the guy's going to be 1021 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,200 worth next year or the year after. 1022 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,360 You're not getting that much upside on a Lamar or an Allen, 1023 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,640 and you're still taking on a lot more risk like that. 1024 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,120 Like we have seen, you know, RG3, we've seen these guys like 1025 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,520 kind of come in and on some real talent. 1026 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,560 But like, you know, I don't know, I want to see like a more 1027 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,800 sustained resume of success at the NFL level, especially for 1028 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,160 guys really skinny, takes a lot of hits, you know, is based 1029 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,600 around his running. Lamar we know can do like you 1030 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,200 have all the same issues with Lamar, I guess. 1031 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,360 But like we know that Lamar is just a different dude. 1032 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,440 I'm still like, I would like to see more from Daniels before I 1033 00:52:52,440 --> 00:53:00,760 just treat him like that. So the the thing with Daniels is 1034 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:06,760 that I don't have a ton of concerns about him running in 1035 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,640 every game. Like any random game, Lamar can 1036 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,280 just not run. You know what I'm saying? 1037 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,160 Like where where Lamar will just show up and be like, well, I'm 1038 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,040 not running today because because we don't need it. 1039 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,920 Like the commanders are not that good of a team to do that 1040 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,720 basically. Now, Lamar, someone's saying in 1041 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:24,640 the chat like Lamar is really good at protecting his body. 1042 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,440 Yeah, 100% true. Lamar never gets hit cleanly. 1043 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,400 Daniels not the same. I don't know what this is about 1044 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,720 Pat, but I I'm always a little worried that Jalen Hurts is 1045 00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:37,760 going to go to 0 at any time. I think it's because it's 1046 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,480 because his bad games are so bad. 1047 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,360 His bad games are like I can't imagine this guy ever being good 1048 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,440 and then obviously shows up the next game is phenomenal but like 1049 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,480 a bad Jalen Hurts game is so bad. 1050 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,760 I think it's cuz like Jalen Hurts sometimes looks like he's 1051 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,320 like throwing a baseball or something. 1052 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,640 I don't. Know and it's like this weird 1053 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,160 like looping thing you're like no like just. 1054 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,440 But then he sometimes also like some of his throws look like, 1055 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,240 you know, like you play baseball at all as a kid yeah yeah, like 1056 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:09,840 I was always the the coolest throws to me were always from 1057 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,120 the outfield with like you did the crow hop and then just like 1058 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,200 that yeah he's got that going on where you're just like oh it's 1059 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,560 very it's still kind of baseball Y but it's it's much more 1060 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:26,720 aesthetically pleasing. I don't know I I don't think you 1061 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:27,720 know what would make a huge ship. 1062 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,560 Maybe I wonder how much of your worry is actually related to 1063 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,280 like what if the tush push just went away? 1064 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,400 What if they just? Oh, well, if the tush push goes 1065 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,240 away, he's Daniel Jones basically. 1066 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,440 Like he's basically Daniel Jones. 1067 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,000 If the if the tush push goes away, it's a bad, bad. 1068 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,840 Like, can you, by the way, Can you imagine, you know, Ben 1069 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,520 Soleck did that tweet last week about what has happened when 1070 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,840 Saquon Barkley got to the one yard line and they've all turned 1071 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,400 into Hertz touchdowns. Can you imagine if those nine 1072 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,600 touchdowns were all Barkley touchdowns instead of her? 1073 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,240 So like, what would his advance rate be if he had nine more? 1074 00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:05,240 100% I think you don't even need. 1075 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,920 You don't even need to draft he. Didn't need to draft the other. 1076 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,800 Players Saquon Barkley log off. By the way, Saquon Barkley and 1077 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,240 Alvin Kamara, I mean, I cannot wait to have none of them next 1078 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:17,920 year. They are, you know, do you know 1079 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,120 how Barkley might actually be the first pick next year? 1080 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,960 Yeah, I'll, I'll just fade them again. 1081 00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:27,040 I mean like, can you? Can you imagine? 1082 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,360 Pat anything here for any any what shots you want to take it 1083 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,760 my Internet going out like at least we're doing this show in 1084 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,360 the morning when there's not a game on. 1085 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,560 It is on print, but there's there's not a game on that's 1086 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,600 like a a an hour behind where you're telling me you know what? 1087 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,400 Oh, it's 21 to. 10:00 You got Josh Allen's touchdown run on a 1088 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,360 loop that's probably sucking up all the bandwidth. 1089 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:53,160 Yeah, that sounds like me. I will talk to Sean McDermott 1090 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,920 later today. I'll make sure not to mention 1091 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,720 anything Davis said, but that that'll be on my on my local 1092 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,400 show later. All right. 1093 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:06,800 I'm good if you guys are. Yeah, I think there was one 1094 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,160 other thing I wanted to talk about. 1095 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,440 Oh, we, we do need to talk about this. 1096 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,920 Christian McCaffrey came back from the IR like, oh, dude, it's 1097 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,600 time. All those McCaffrey teams who 1098 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,240 are bidding their time, it's like Ezekiel Elliott, man. 1099 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,760 He's averaging 3.7 yards per carry. 1100 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,560 Is he, is he, is he hurt? Is it just like he's going to be 1101 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,720 fine? He needs to get in shape. 1102 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,720 What's the like? I mean, I'm not like raising the 1103 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:33,760 alarm right now, but he's been like, you called him Zeke, so 1104 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,600 you're not. What would it look like if you 1105 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,400 were raising the alarm? I said. 1106 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,600 I said he looks like. Zeke not he will look. 1107 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,200 Like Zeke next week. But like, are are we concerned? 1108 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,240 Is it just like he's a 29 year old running back with Achilles 1109 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:49,440 tendonitis? Like what? 1110 00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:51,920 I don't, I, I don't know. I don't know the answer. 1111 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,280 I haven't seen him in these two games. 1112 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,960 But the numbers aren't, are they that bad? 1113 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,040 Like yesterday he had really bad in his first week so he had. 1114 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,120 Three yards per carry, last in his first game back and brush 1115 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,720 threads ever expected was atrocious. 1116 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,160 But is it 4.2 yards per carry yesterday? 1117 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,280 4 catches Yeah and from what I. Saw he looked fine. 1118 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,560 Like I, I wasn't, he looked with McCaffrey, he didn't have that. 1119 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,320 Like, you know, like McCaffrey kind of, he goes to the line and 1120 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,120 he's like, kind of like doing his little weave and then he 1121 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,880 burst through and then he burst through. 1122 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,200 He didn't have that last. Part yet, but. 1123 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,800 I don't know, I it made me I felt more encouraged after 1124 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,240 yesterday. Let me let me pull up his 1125 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,240 rushers over. Davis is Christian McCaffrey, 1126 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,320 the Aaron. Jones of Ezekiel Elliott's. 1127 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,280 I think that might be a good comp actually, yeah. 1128 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,560 That that might be, that might be a good comp, But I, I will 1129 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,680 say this, man, if CMC is cheap next year, I, I'm going to learn 1130 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,400 my lesson on the Kamara. I'm going to learn my lesson on 1131 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,920 the Kamara thing, which is when they when they're giving me an 1132 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,080 old guy at a giant discount because they're expecting the 1133 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,040 Cliff to come. You got to do it, especially if 1134 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,800 the guy catches passes. I think we'd. 1135 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,960 All been burned by by David Johnson so hard that like that 1136 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,720 just it's so hard for me to get back on board with Camara I'm 1137 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,120 still mad at myself for Camara because Camara did this to us 1138 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,600 last year yeah and then we're like let's price him the same 1139 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,240 and see what happens and see what happens when I. 1140 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,000 Draft a bag? I don't know. 1141 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,200 I connor's the same thing right? I mean almost the same. 1142 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,880 Thing Conrad got on board with. Conrad got on board. 1143 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,640 With Camara, I didn't get on board. 1144 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,080 I think it was like if he had to hold out noises. 1145 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,840 The same were such an atrocious organization. 1146 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,840 I was just like, I can't and Arizona drafted a replacement. 1147 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,560 Whereas New Orleans, just there was no, no clear answer other 1148 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,160 than Camaro. I know it was a big, big miss. 1149 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:41,080 McCaffrey had 7 rushers over expected last week with a 44% 1150 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,200 success rate, so it was actually a decent game this past, but he 1151 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,040 just was terrible against the Bucks and he just hasn't scored. 1152 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,320 He just hasn't scored. Right. 1153 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,600 I think you're. I mean, he's one of those guys 1154 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,120 that'd be really psyched to advance if you get a McCaffrey 1155 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,960 team. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1156 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,840 Watch. Out five and five San. 1157 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,200 Francisco at Green Bay at Buffalo next two weeks. 1158 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,520 Fun. This has been fun. 1159 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,600 Thanks again for having me. Pat Davis. 1160 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,520 I'm Mike Shope. Is this where I ask you guys 1161 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,040 where people can can find you? Is if anybody watching ADP 1162 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,680 chasing on a Monday morning, wouldn't you? 1163 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,200 Oh, Week 11. Yeah. 1164 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,480 Immediately after this stream ends, it's going to. 1165 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,160 Go over to my channel and I'm going to draft a bunch of these 1166 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:29,480 underdog, way too early playoff contests. 1167 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,200 There's big, there's little, there's medium. 1168 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,000 Have at it. Find Davis in there. 1169 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,920 For Pat and Davis, I'm Mike Schoke. 1170 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,280 Thanks for being a part of our show today. 1171 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:39,080 See you guys later.