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I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a
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you can make. But man, All right.
So for the record, that was me, not Mike who who played the
wrong clip there. That's it's not not the new guy,
Pat Pryor the whole time. I just heard, I just heard Pat
Pryor, Hellmuth, and I was like, all right, all right, all right.
My favorite show. Starting, I think the real
reason I'm here is because I think T Higgins is good, I feel.
Like that's true, yeah. Big Chasing stepped in and had
enough of the slander. No, I mean I have enjoyed
watching you guys and Sam for a long time and I just hope we can
keep it humming. So thank you for having me.
Of course, yeah. Welcome aboard.
We're we're psyched. This will be a lot of.
We're happy to have you. If you were not here, this would
have been two hours of Karine and I sort of listlessly
drifting from topic to topic. We probably would have done 40.
5 Listlessly. Listlessly, you know.
No, no, rudderlessly. Not rudderlessly.
Rudderlessly. Yeah.
You know, we would have probably spent 45 minutes on Daniel Jones
this morning. We would have.
Like we don't have any direction, doesn't mean we don't
hit the power sometimes. Correct.
We, we would have gone deep into, you know, Daniel Jones,
who is Daniel Jones, offensive coordinator.
We would have gotten into like, well, why did they take him over
Justin Herbert? You know, it would have been, it
would have been a fun, it would have been a fun thought
experiment. Honestly, I would have loved it.
I mean, if that had happened. I don't know how many minutes
you do want to spend on that, but I would like to actually say
not not entirely a joke. I I think, you know, it's funny
that T Higgins went what, wide receiver 2 for the week last
night. I mean, can I just sort of try
to ingratiate myself sort of get into the flow here by asking
what we think he really is? I mean, the Bengals, Davis, I
saw you tweeting about them this morning, their schedule.
But it's four and seven now, right?
Like what? You wonder about the incentives
when it comes to Cincinnati, the players and then just the team.
At the same time, I thought last night there was like an
excitement, the comeback and everything that had happened,
but also a little bit of a melancholy vibe with Cincinnati.
I don't know. I mean, are we going to be able
to trust the Bengals down the stretch?
I mean, I'll tell you this right now, they lose that Week 12 game
to the Steelers and you have big Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow, T
Higgins positions. It's over for you because they
are, they are not getting there. But if they win that game, I
would argue the Bengals might be who you need because every
single game is going to be a playoff game.
I mean, dude, Chase Brown is getting 28 touches a game, but
that might be less, it might be less than 28 touches a game.
Like they there's no try and keep the offense on schedule.
Like it's all like we got to get touchdowns and we got to get
touchdowns right now. Louie Amorano, by the way, this
is it's not really a topic for this show.
Louie Amorano was like supposed to be a head coach candidate
like 18 months ago. He he beat, you know, Burrowhead
beats beats the Chiefs and Arrowhead.
I mean. But it was always ridiculous,
yeah. It was.
The narratives last year on Anaruma were like, he does all
this, he takes all the top guy away.
It's like their defense wasn't that good.
It's like he's getting, we're doing, we're bending over
backwards to kind of praise this guy when the numbers don't
really support that they have an elite defense at all.
You know who this year's version of Luann Aruma is?
It's Aaron Glenn because like Sunday Night Football.
Wait, didn't Collinsworth say this a couple weeks ago?
Wait, Wait till you see the line out the door for teams wanting
to interview him. Detroit's defensive coordinator?
Really. Is that what you would do?
I watched our Bills, sorry, too soon get get taken down by
Cincinnati in the playoffs and everybody couldn't wait to tell
you how qualified and excellent a candidate Amaruno.
Amaruno Anarumo, we got it now is and no disrespect, right?
Like in Buffalo, we're arguing all the time.
This team never loses and we're arguing all the time about Sean
Mcdermott's, you know, quality and value as a head coach.
So I don't know, maybe it'll turn the other way.
It usually does in football. But do we want the new good
teams defensive coordinator to be our bad teams future?
I don't think I do. It's such a tough spot to be in.
To have a defensive. You have to have a really.
You have to have Dan Campbell. Where else does it work?
Dude, he's not defensive. That's the thing about Dan
Campbell. He's got some.
He was a tight end. He.
Was a tight end. He's he came up under Peyton.
He's an offensive mind. He seems so thoroughly like a
defensive guy, but he's an offensive mind.
So I mean, there really aren't that many examples where you're
like psyched. I mean, Belichick is basically
the one. Harbaugh, Harbaugh for for.
The. Special teams.
It's going to end up. Quarterback though, is he?
Is he defensive? John Harbaugh was a special
teams coach. He was special teams, yeah,
which he was the same idea. So that that's a.
That's a good example, but. I guess what I mean by defensive
head coaches, I mean the CEO style where you are leaving the
offense to someone else because the issue you run into when you
leave an offense to someone else.
I mean, look, the Lions are gonna, the Lions better win the
Super Bowl this year because Ben Johnson is not sticking around
again, I don't think. I think Ben Johnson wants to
have his own team. He wants to make his money.
And you know, like, yeah, they're going to promote someone
from within probably, but can you recapture that?
Yeah, Tomlin obviously is a good example of this.
Although Tomlin, you know, would I want to sign up for my team
being a Tomlin team? Would you want to sign up for
that right now? Would you want to sign up for
that right now even at whatever they are first place, right?
No. I I they win that what?
Tomic's a really good coach, but I think you have, you know, I
don't know, you're kind of stuck in this spot where unless you
have like a Hall of Fame quarterback, it's like tough to
see how you're going to be like a really, really, really strong
team. Because like, I mean, Jared Goff
is not that great. You know, he's, he's playing out
of his mind. But I chalk a lot of it up to
situation, partly because we've already seen this before with
McVeigh. Like if you put everything
around him and it's all in place, then he can.
I've actually been experimenting looking at like yards when the
quarterback didn't leave the pocket from when you're throwing
3 seconds or later. Just seeing seasons there.
Goff is absolutely smashing with with those types of throws.
One of the other big seasons was Goff in 2018 and one of the
other big seasons was Matthew Stafford in 2021.
Both were the the peak. Of that makes time that makes
such sense. Yeah.
And so it's not to say that Goff isn't playing really well,
playing awesome, but like he's being supported by a team in a
way that, you know, if the situation were to get a little
worse, I think he would be exposed.
As we've we've seen throughout his career, he can get exposed.
So the I guess my point is that there is real value in one of
these coaches that can build one of those systems.
Because if you can build a system like that, you can get
Super Bowl level play out of these quarterbacks that you know
aren't going to lead you to a Super Bowl just on their the
weight of their own talent. Well, I right, I mean, think
about Buffalo all the time for this.
I always want, I mean, we had 17 years in a row here without a
playoff team like a record stuff.
I always wanted you're going to make the quarterback pick in the
first round. You want it to align with the
head coach. Didn't Davis maybe you point out
how Chicago three times in a row.
I mean it's like the Chicago is like the the best example of
this. Like they already are having to
press the reset button. It's Week 11.
Yeah, so you had Trubisky went in, John Fox was there and then
fired. And you had Fields go in and
Nagy was there and then fired, and now you have this situation
and the coach will be fired. It didn't happen actually that
way for Buffalo, which I know you'll know.
Like they traded Mcdermott's first ever draft pick to the
Chiefs for Mahomes. Like that was the Mahomes pick.
But the Bills, you know, I guess this is a fun debate.
Did did they get away with it by drafting Josh Allen the next
year that that bill's chiefs just continues to just it's so
much fun. It's so interesting.
I don't know, like I talked the bills, so you're feeling.
Good about Bill's chiefs right now.
Today, better than yesterday at this time, but I don't know
really apart past Josh Allen, obviously, and defensively,
they're always able to come up with new ways it seems to
confuse or to win past that. What are they good at?
You know, like what is Shakur as a fantasy past that?
McDermott is a great example of it because he clearly is a bad
coach. I think, I think the guys like
him and I think they play for him and I think he.
The Bills would already have one Super Bowl if.
Yeah. You know, I don't know.
So if Dan Campbell or not even, let's not even go.
Dan Campbell, let's go pre downfall Doug Peterson or
someone, someone who kind of just gets now that's probably.
I'm, I'm having too long coming up.
He's he's above Doug, but how crazy is it that Campbell might
be the best coach in the league? Remember how much the Nika we
were all like he's. Not Andy and I like and I know
this is going to be unpopular to do day it is it is Andy Reid,
but Andy also I think is very complacent right now.
The whole everyone with the Chiefs is just very complacent
right now. No one's really like, I just, I
feel like it's neither here nor there.
But McDermott takes points off the table all the time.
He does like Mike. Have you ever forgiven him for
the Jamar Hamlin make a wish moment of the fake punt?
I mean, that's the worst decision a coach has made in a
playoff game in in my memory. Like, it's just you have Josh
Allen, man, you, you, you've got you've got Josh Allen.
You don't need to run a a fake punt.
Well, you know, he's still kicking.
There's something like 57 and 20 in their last 77 regular season
games. And I think McDermott, I I
think, yeah, he has improved. I, I know that was last year, so
maybe this is tough to hear, but like yesterday, the a couple of
big plays in that game were fourth down plays and they were
successful. And if you look up his data, he
knows a lot of it like you. Do you think Do you think he
does the 4th down plays if it's a playoff game though?
Well, last year they did what you said.
So I, I don't know. That's, I think the overall
lesson. I mean, I've been on the string
for many, many years how teams have been wrong when it comes to
that stuff. They've gotten a lot better at
it. And I think you know, he he's
not, he's not what Andy Reid was when he was the Eagles coach.
Yeah, Andy Reid used to be terrible at this.
Yeah, Andy Reid was awful. And the clock management, it was
that plus he would list like you'd be.
Like Andy, Andy by the way, Andy messed the the clock up
yesterday too by the. Way he he still.
I think they've been so good that we forget.
I don't know that he ever got better with the clock
management. It's just it's kind of, it
doesn't matter as. Much Well, how about, how about
it ends up being totally forgotten.
But against the Broncos, you got to let him score.
You got you, you, you have to let them score.
And Andy's just, you know, kind of hanging out.
He's calling his plays in. He's I didn't know.
I didn't, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe they did not
let estimate score there at the end in the fourth and fourth
quarter when you clearly need to do that.
I mean, they kicked the field goal with 0 seconds left on the
clock. Your win condition is 0 unless
you let them score. Davis, what do you think?
What do you think happens in the AFC from here on?
Oh, the Bills are going to get the one seed now, Now that now
that they've lost one, you know what we're talking.
Oh, yeah. Now like you think you think the
Chiefs were just hanging out before, buddy?
Like, what do you think is going to happen now?
Now that they don't have to deal with the concept of having a
perfect season? They might end up being the four
seed that I guess. Don't they want the one seed?
I don't understand why they would just coast.
Well, they're not very good, man.
They're they're like Juju Smith, Schuster got.
I know, but they might have to start trying a little more, you
know? Juju Smith Schuster got the ball
on a key third down. Juju Smith, Schuster, man, he
got the ball on 1/3. And 8th.
Now he did convert it. He made it.
Which is? Yeah, right.
It felt a little like they were doing some worthy stuff
yesterday they're trying to like.
Well, but he got benched after the so he cuz obviously I'm
watching this stuff very closely.
He catches the 50 yard bomb, has no idea.
Intentionally didn't get in bounds there right.
He slows up. He's like, he like did it.
It was. It was Jonathan Mingo.
It was Mingo asking.
Yeah, Why are they? Why is Mahomes putting that ball
so close to the sideline? There's no one there.
Like, wouldn't you just sort? Of well, he's he's so I mean,
that's the really no one wants to talk about it, but his deep
balls have been brutal. I mean, he's been awful.
He he is as messed up. That's the third one this year.
That was a worthy touchdown where he put it in the wrong.
No 4th one this year where he put it in the wrong spot.
Yeah. He's been he's been awful, man.
He he's been really, really bad. This is the worst he's ever
played. This is worse than he.
Yeah, Like this. Default percentage is also crazy
low, like he's rarely taking those shots so when he misses
them it really hurts. That's interesting heading into
the week. That's kind of Alan too.
It's it's it's funny like that. That isn't happening at all.
When I say like, what are they good at?
I mean that's respectful because I know they're nine and two of
the bills and that's a great day for them yesterday.
But really like what Amari Cooper had a couple of kind of
moon ball catches in this game. Shakur gives you the same 7 for
70 whatever ish every week without without a touchdown.
I don't know for fantasy, like they're sort of the Packers plus
where obviously you have Allen. That's sort of a different
subject, different category, but and Cook, but what you do with
their passing game, Kincaid misses the game.
I kind of think nothing against the player, but that's one where
I think it's probably a little bit smoother, less complicated
for the bill because. They feel, they feel bad that
they drafted Dalton Kincaid. So 3 * a game, they draw up a
Kincaid play and he will like, you know, that that infomercial
gift for the guy who's got his arms full and he's falling over
and water's going everywhere. That is Kincaid on on these
plays. It's like he just as Would you
rather have Noah Gray or Dalton Kincaid?
Well, so that's so I think I. Draft Noah Gray When did?
I draft Noah Gray cuz I didn't draft him in the first round.
I think this is actually like a sneaky downside of spending a
first round pick on a tight end, Cuz if you spend a first round
pick on a bad wide receiver, you spent a first round pick on
Johan Dotson, right? The first year looks OK, and
then the next year you're like, this isn't no, yeah.
But pretty quickly he's just like, we're not playing this guy
anymore cuz he's a wide receiver.
You got a bunch of them. Or or you can rotate them like
it just it doesn't be Yeah, you. Can find a little package yeah
but with tight end he's like he's still going to be the best
pass catching tight end that you have most likely so you're.
Kind of stuck just that's such. That's such a good point.
By the way, someone asked for the data on the the deep passing
stuff. I'm pulling it up right now.
It's. 5% Mahomes has the lowest deep pass rate in the league.
Among what's deep 20 yards. 20 yards. 20 plus yards.
Yeah, this is for NFL Next Gen. Second lowest is Aaron Rodgers,
then Mayfield, then Tua, than Minshew.
I mean, this is you. Know that's a club you don't
want to be in. Right now, I believe Josh
Allen's eighth, he he's at 12%. He's still, he's still
attacking. He's right behind Will Levison,
ahead of Justin Fields, ahead of James.
So he's still attacking deep. You're talking about percentage
of plays that travel 20 yards through the air or?
Percentage of drop backs Percentage of drop backs on
which you have a 20 yard 20 plus yard pass.
And I, I hate to be diplomatic here on the show because. 90
percentage of the times I'm not sure.
That's not good radio, but the Chiefs and the Bills both won
the worthy Coleman swap where they got the better fit for
their quarterback. Now, Worthy's been awful.
Like before yesterday, I was ready to like, I really in my
head, I was like, this guy's just Nicole Hardman where like
he can't be on a football field. He does not have the attention
to detail or anything like that. I feel a little bit better
yesterday, which is very funny given that he did another
horrible attention to detail. So Coleman's just a way better
fit. Worthy would be Worthy would
would get 6 snaps a game for the bill.
He'd be Deonte Hardy there. There'd be no point in him.
And Coleman wouldn't get the ball in Kansas City, either.
Is he like Philip Dorsett like I'm trying to think of?
A No, no, he, what he's got to do is he's got to put on some
weight. He's got, he's he just, he's
going to have to sacrifice some speed and put on some weight.
Although he did get crunched by the two Bill safeties on his
first catch yesterday. And pop back up where I was
like, I was ready for like the stretchers to come out and he
got back up and I was like, wow, All right, yeah, but Mahomes
would not throw key on Coleman the ball.
You think Mahomes is throwing rookies 5050 balls?
Dude. Not not a chance in hell, dude.
He he he would be Justin Watson on.
Kansas Quick, quick thought on Mcconkey, who was the player I
wanted here on the Friday and we had all day.
Both of these teams would have been better off with.
Last did. Did they each have a little bit
more of an overlap there with or with Shakur?
I don't know. But Lad played 79% of his.
Snaps on. The outside he, he just is.
He's just, I mean, he just is a great player.
He's he's. AI think lad would be perfect
with the chiefs like that's kind of exactly what what his version
of Mahomes wants and he I mean I guess he's kind of rice ish but
you know still. You could play him on the
outside, though. I mean, the the bills and the
Chiefs both have a wide receiver who doesn't earn targets.
They have Matt Collins and they have Justin Watson who plays all
these snaps. And and I mean, honestly, I
guess Hollands the last two weeks has gotten targets, but
like they just, they just are, it is kind of crazy of an
offensive philosophy to try and play 10 on 11.
They it like isn't that great. Like they're both of these teams
are just kind of being like, you got to stick out one corner on
this guy, but he's never getting the ball.
That sucks too, to have Watson when you have worth, because
worthy should be that guy that where you're just like, we're
going to sacrifice. This all comes back to the
sliding glass doors of why I'm having a bad fantasy season
which is Hollywood injuring his shoulder on the 1st play of the
season and pre season. I I, I I.
Mean rice. Rice staying healthy would be
huge. Would have been what I mean.
Imagine. I would I would even go supposed
to say more important than Hollywood Brown right stays
healthy. Oh, sure, sure, sure.
For my first day, I mean, looks like my first day ever in radio,
I wrote up all these ideas and topics.
Now I understand how this guy, this show goes two hours because
nothing has come up yet. But that's cool.
It's it's fun, it's good. It's good, good content.
Anthony, let's get to a topic. But that's that'd be good.
I'm ready for one. I cannot wait to be able to talk
about Anthony Richardson. And I've got a question at the
end of this absolutely stellar return out of nowhere, like last
week at this time he was, we were cutting him in the FSC.
Joe's Joe's our quarterback this time.
Last week, last Monday, the game could not have gone much better
for the Richard. The many Richardson believers.
270 passing yards win on the road, Last minute drive where
you needed the touchdown and you got it on one of two absolute
truck stick runs by the quarterback.
Is he going to play? Think of the preseason.
Is he going to play this year carefully to not get hurt?
Do the Colts want to do that? It kind of did.
And you know, he he goes from tapping out, creating a, you
know, all the conversation that we got after that to running
over people in the end zone with the game on the line.
I mean I'm all I think I'm almost all the way back to pre
season vibes on him which is OK. That question was kind of
answered yesterday. My question is, I wonder if
either of you would give the Colts any credit at all for what
has happened here in the last 2-3 weeks.
Zero. If they win either of those
games with Flacco in there, it's still, it's still Flacco.
Flacco doesn't play so bad, it's still him.
I would also say that based on Mike's feelings here, this is a
good day to go try and sell Anthony Richardson and.
You could get a 2025 first for. Anthony, it's time.
It's time. Remember, like you know, if any,
any crypto enthusiast, any, any situation where you've gone, if
you just gave me one day, put this cell window, I would sell.
And then it comes and you go, wow.
Now we're going back up. You're not going back up.
I don't think we're going back up with Anthony Richardson.
I think we're this is this is the the the light here.
This is the one day where you've got to make a move, not to say
it's all going to. Literally no.
Literally the one day like this is the day.
It might not come crashing out right away, but like, we know
it's a volatile, he's a volatile quarterback.
Do you know the Colts play next week?
I do Detroit. You got, you got like four days,
dude. Well, isn't the worst situation
because they have the passage? But you get, you get down 14
points from the job and then and then you just have to drop back.
There were great throws yesterday.
I mean, he made great throws. You can see the arm talent like
the timing was good. Do you know who they who they
play after Detroit? It goes like this.
New England, Denver, all right, not easy, but that's the team
they're right next to in the in the playoff picture.
Tennessee Giants, Jacksonville, That's the rest of the way for
the Colts. I mean, that's probably probably
3-4 more wins. They stay in it.
And I don't know what that means necessarily to his trade value
like you guys are talking. But I'm just so glad it happened
because the Colts were a pathetic, pathetic, miserable
situation with Flacco in there. At least.
However it happened, They got to Richardson.
They told the story about, oh, it's practice habits.
I don't know. I mean, I don't want to give
them any credit either, but it's a it's.
A Anthony Richardson I I have a decent amount of Anthony
Richardson in basketball and somehow some of those teams are
still alive. So for that purpose, I'm
excited. You know, like give me, give me,
frankly, playing time. That's great.
You know, I didn't think I was getting that anymore.
So that's already a win. And then show me that ceiling
that you can pop off for these types of games.
I think we could end up kind of having an Anthony Richardson
suck out in in basketball world, but I don't think I'm going back
for more next year. No, that's that's expensive.
In any way? We got away with it situation.
Yeah, it feels really like a guy.
You can't get benched for Joe Flacco and then be like, you
know, in a Joe's our guy. I mean, isn't like Sam Darnold's
going to be here next year or someone else?
They're not going to just go completely not doing Tommy
DeVito is the is the guy they're.
No, I think I think they are. I think that's the lesson is
that Flacco was too good. Like he was somebody that had he
was in the playoffs last year. He's the comeback player of the
year. He's always sort of like
knocking on the door. We have this guy over here and
the tap out sort of in a crooked sort of way, kind of saved
Richardson because it gave the Colts this extra edit.
Was he right to tap out? It turns out, yes, it worked out
for him. Oh, OK.
I didn't know what this meant to play in the NFL and be a
quarterback For now, I do. I got it, and he goes in.
Maybe I'm a little bit too excited about what yesterday was
based on the opponent, but on the road last minute, that's
that's good. The The thing is, though, is
that he did not show me anything yesterday that he has not done
before. It's not like he came out and
completed a bunch of short crossers to Josh Downs.
He he hit out the the play of the game.
The play of the game was not even as good as the best play of
of week one of the I mean, it's not like anyone's like, oh,
Anthony Richardson doesn't have the arm talent.
Anthony Richardson is not a great rusher.
It's just all of the things together that he can't really.
I'll tell you, I'll tell you this actually the play of the
game. He made first drive of the game
second and seven. They put AD Mitchell on the
field for one of his five routes where he's not going to get
distracted by a blade of grass and.
He looks so good when he actually gets the.
Kind of he he was kind of a little bit of pressure and he
kind of adjusted his arm angle and he completed a A6 yard
crossing. Like not even a crosser, just a
slant. And Mitchell got it in stride
first down and that play, I was like, well, maybe if he can make
that play. And he also completed 1/3 and 13
to downs where the play broke down a little bit and his first
instrument was to run, but he hung in the pocket for a second.
I agree with the commenters who say that Anthony Richardson is
good. The thing is though, is Anthony
Richardson, you cannot play him like he's Joe Burrow.
You can't play him like he's Jared Goff, like you have to
accept that he's going to complete like 49% of his passes
because right, he is just going to miss throws.
And it feels like the Colts organization is not happy with
that deal. I don't.
Know that's that's the part of it that I am that has really
shaken my faith in what we're getting when we draft Anthony
Richardson. You know, we're investing them
in dynasty is that I thought that they had made that bargain
and we're happy with it. And then pretty quickly they
were like, no, no, no, we would much prefer just Joe Flacco
playing a little bit better than you'd expect, you know, And then
Joe Flacco played a lot worse than you'd expect.
And they're like, OK, we're down to go to Richardson.
And then he has a big game. But we're, I mean, Richardson is
going to be streaky as hell. You know, this is this is going
to go down as maybe his best game of his career.
Maybe. Really.
Maybe. Yeah, so I you know, it, it
makes it, I mean, we'll obviously all have a lot more
information for Bestball before we have to make that decision.
But like again, for Dynasty, I think this is a good day to send
offers and and have someone think they're getting one over
on you. You you could get trade.
If you really caught someone in a spot today that has trades on
right now, you could get a 2025 first and like a good veteran,
you know, like a veteran who like you, maybe you're not going
to want next year, but could score points this year.
Like I'm in a league that allows I'm going to, I'm in a league
that allows trading all the way until the Super Bowl.
And if I had Richardson, I'd be like, OK, I'll take a 2025
first. Sam Darnold.
Sam Darnold and and like and like, I don't know, a a Josh
Jacobsy, Chase Brown Like just like.
I think you're asking too much there.
I think you get get your Darnold in a first and and be happy.
This had better be a one QB league.
No, Super Plex. I'm I'm looking at, I'm looking
at, I'm looking at rankings right now.
All right, maybe you're, maybe you can ask, maybe you can ask
for more Davis. We finally got to a point where
everything went right and we're getting out.
I. I don't feel I'm older than you
guys. I would never.
I'm older than you guys. I'm just going to play it safer
and start them against Detroit plus 8 total.
I don't think it's there's nothing safe about Anthony
Richardson now the the safety net is gone.
He has to play well going forward or he's or he's.
I'll, I'll ask. You this another option because
Steiken could get fired. That's the other thing.
Like they could bring in someone else who's like I'm not dealing
with this dude. This guy just got a coach.
Fired. They're going to win four more
games. They're going to be right if
they if they win the Denver game.
Patriots, Giants, Titans. Jaguars.
Oh, the Patriots are going to beat them, I think.
That would be so sweet. The the the thing with diocese
is you just never want to have to be right, Right.
So like, if they don't win four games, then are you holding the
bag on this dude? And I think you probably are.
Doesn't he have off worst case scenario?
I don't ask that. I mean, what what is his sort of
men value in the offseason? Like we were talking like his
career was kind of over after 10 starts.
Dude, he could be worth. He could be Justin Fields man.
Yeah, it's field. It's a field.
Situation. It could be Fields where he's
benched for Andy Dalton next year or whoever.
I think it's like a field situation where they bring in
adult or not adult, no, a Darnold, something like that,
where that's like he's still the guy, but it's very clear that he
has a super short leash and no one feels comfortable investing
really anything in. Him well, if if the Bears don't
luck into the Carolina trade, Fields was their quarterback
this year, at least at the beginning.
Like, you know, that's different with Indianapolis.
I think they're not going to have they do they bring in a
better veteran. They just kind of did that.
They might have brought in Darnold.
They why They could have been the Darnold team.
The Bears. The Bears Why could the Bears
not have been the Darnold team? Yeah, that's a good point.
They could have, but he wouldn't have started week 1.
He wouldn't have started week one.
Maybe you know they that gets there for them but right OK.
Yeah, it's just if there's a bunch of value still there, like
if you, if you could go get Donald a first and a running
back like I'm doing that, you know, because the first to me
the safest asset, the deal there is the first pretty clearly
because the first is gonna have value next year.
The first will be worth the 1st. OK, I guess I should say it
depends if it profiles as an early one or a late 1, because
there are a couple super blue chippers in this year's draft.
Like super mega, like crazy. There are no quarterbacks
though. That's going to be, it's going
to be so fun when we transition to the offseason stuff.
I, I don't think there's going to be a quarterback who goes in
the first round. I, I am, I'm right now would be
surprised if Cam Ward goes in the first round.
Maybe Bo Nicks honestly will change that because Bo Nicks is
old and playing so well. So maybe.
Team Ward quarterbacks so bad that I bet, I bet one does.
I mean, we would have said Bo Nicks and Penex like even on the
day I didn't think Penex would go first round, even top 10.
So I don't think you're ever like taking that big of a risk
to. Chadur is going to get some
coach so fired, man. So, so Chadur, what?
Whatever Chadur the his coach, his second year of his career
bet on that guy to be the first quarterback or first coach fired
because man, is he going to get somebody fired.
There, there are a few teams, there always are a few teams
that would be quarterback, round one, quarterback candidates.
But there are so many have come out in the last couple of years
and so many teams have, including Richardson and Tennix
and so on. They've already sort of made
their bet. And those guys are one or two
years in. So I don't know how many it
really is, probably 3 or 4, but not teams like, you know, Denver
or I mean Atlanta doing it last year even that was pretty crazy.
Yeah, I mean, teams have started to sell themselves on that, you
know, like the Packers with love and everything.
I don't think the Falcon situation was really that
comparable to that, but they do, you know, they think it's
similar enough that they did it. So, you know, you're that thins
out an already pretty thin pool of startable NFL quarterbacks.
So I don't know, like if you're the Raiders, I guess if you get
it depends if they hire because and how much leash that that
team feels like they have. But it can even if you're, you
know, a really like hot name and get the the head coaching job,
like you can't lose for like two or three seasons.
You're going to get fired. Like you have to you have to be
able to sell hope. So I don't know if you're the
Raiders, you're just like, there's such a strong incentive
to to dress. Man, the Raiders aren't the
Raiders, the shuder team. That's that's what's going to
happen. The Raiders.
Hire.
Dion they hire Dion, they take shuder.
It's the most Raiders thing I've ever heard in my life.
That's that's the most Raiders thing I've ever heard to the
point that I actually want it to happen and I want it to work.
I want them to win 9 games with a with a father.
And son, head coach quarter, please.
That'd be happy. That'd be.
Amazing. And sign and sign Justin Fields
as the backup so that so that you've got that going on too.
That sounds that sounds pretty good.
Pretty good. So just to move on from
Indianapolis, which I think is where we were.
So the way too early drafts on underdog.
That's a team. You guys tell me, I'm not sure.
Davis, I know you have one coming up today.
I've been in there yet because you know, I look at it and I'm
like, oh jeez, I don't know. What are Pat and Davis or Pete
going to say? If I draft this and this, like
I'm not prepared. And then the other part of my
brain goes, Mike, it's $3. Really, you don't have to worry
about it. You could just draft.
You could spend 3 American dollars on one of these teams
and just sort of take all your Colts, whatever it is.
But what is Maybe if you have any thoughts on this, like some
strategy at this point, this very early point, way too early
point of playoff drafting? People are are pretty
consistently the worst at this format of anything that the dog
app offers. Like they just no matter how
much content people, not everyone, but I'd say 25 to 35%
of the pool just drafts for the min cash.
So like, they're taking uncorrelated teams, they're
taking teams that can't have 5 active for the Super Bowl.
Well, I'll say one thing I'm doing now that I'm probably not
going to do when the gauntlet and the mitten pops open.
I'm doing a lot of two quarterback teams early.
Like I'm taking like Goth and Mahomes or I'm taking Mahomes
and Jaden Daniels or Josh Allen and Jaden Daniels or or
something like that just because I, there's just a lot.
I mean, there's a lot of football that's it's way too
early. We're we're 11 weeks away.
There's a lot of chaos. One seed stuff is pretty up in
the air like so I I'm doing more of that than I will.
That's a risk tolerance thing. I think because you can, you
know, you got to think what happens when the teams that I'm
drafting get the buy that I didn't think we're going to get.
And if you're drafting like that, then you have another
quarterback who gets through. Now, I would do that with, you
know, we're going, you don't want to draft those teams and
have there be a realistic chance that both teams have the bike.
The the thing not. Mitigating risk then.
So the thing for me that is different right now is that the
market is inefficient enough right now that you can still get
guys in the ninth and 10th round who are going to get points in
Week 1 like in the wild card round like for example.
Pickens. You, you can.
Well, I was more thinking like teams that are Super Bowl
eligible, like you can get, you can get, I don't know, Dawson
Knox in round 10 or whatever, or you can get you can get Kareem
Hunt or P Rhine. Guys like these who are on top
for you can get. I mean, I know he doesn't get
any targets, but like you can get Tim Patrick and Khalif
Raymond in round 10. You can get Kenneth Gainwell
like you can. I mean Gainwell probably is a
bad example. These are this year's Jawan
Jennings. Yeah, Dallas Goddard is super
cheap in these, for example. Yeah.
I mean the other, the other thing though with the two
quarterback stuff is that you can again, it's a risk tolerance
thing. The other way to play it is that
you go, no, I'm just taking all in.
I'm taking one court and I'm betting that my Chiefs, when I
draft the Chiefs on slot, I'm betting that they don't get the
buy. Everyone assumes they're getting
the buy and that this will be one of the best teams in the
tournament because they don't get the buy.
And that will be the way that I advance because I have Chief
scoring points when people didn't think they would score
points. And then they go to the Super
Bowl and now I have just the the absolute nuts in the Super.
Bowl the The general thing is to just draft as many eligible 5
man Super Bowl rosters as possible.
Like be like I, I, I I think that is the right way to.
Think about it, the the tip that Sacrilegious did last year that
kind of changed the way I think about it and I think it was
really helpful, is that try to assemble usually with only three
teams, not 4, but try to assemble the AFC and NFC
championship games. That that is because if you
have, right, because potentially you could end up in a scenario
where you've got one AFC team and two NFC teams.
You get there either way. And you get there either way.
And then I also think like from a conceptual point, it's it's
it's almost easier to think through like who's likely to
play each other in the championship games than it is to
be like who's making Super Bowl. Because you can almost tell
yourself any story about who they're going to go on some
magical run and make the Super Bowl.
But it's it's almost easier to because it's like less of a moon
shot. You know, I think you're almost
more realistic about like, OK, who's going to be in the the NFC
Conference championship? Which which side is more wide
open or better for like a dart throw?
NFC There are only three teams that can make the Super Bowl in
the AFC The Chiefs, the Bills and the Ravens.
I I would be, wouldn't you be unbelievably floored if any of
the other teams in the AFC made it?
Yeah, honestly, one of the other teams maybe would have been the
Bengals, and now they're probably.
And now they're probably not going to make the playoffs.
They're they're sub 25% to make the.
Playoffs what? What about San Francisco for
this? I'm, I'm like not taking them
right now because not only do I think like it's possible they
miss, but I think they might just get blown out if they, if
they make they're, they're terrible, man.
I think I'm still down to dabble with San Francisco.
I would be no respect for the Steelers, so as an homage to
Sam, may I contribute some truth serum, please?
If that's all right, I am convinced the Steelers have some
way of affecting field goals in their home stadium so that all
of theirs are good and all of yours are not some version of
Gary. Jones, Son in the Eyes.
Yeah, the remember the door at Giants Stadium.
I was always the rumor that somebody when your team was
kicking a field goal, they would open a door in the tunnel and
the wind would. I went to a pit game a month
ago. It was Cal Pit, and I'm sitting
there with my son and guy next to me was great.
Big pit fan. We were just in town for one of
my son's lacrosse tournaments. And pit the pit Panthers college
football. They lined up for a 60 yard
field goal at Heinz Field and like buddy, this is going
through and it did it even it even extends to the college team
that plays in this state somehow if Justin tick, Justin Tucker is
lined up for a field goal, you know, the third one.
We can't make this too obvious. So we'll get we'll allow him to
make the third one. But the first two forget it.
This is still a game, and Boswell has Is anybody in the
chat in on the show old enough to remember a Steelers kicker
missing a field goal in at Heinz Field?
I I don't think it's ever happened.
Wasn't the turf always? Getting a bunch of crap there.
Sorry, yeah. Sorry.
Go ahead, Davis. Look, if the government can
manipulate the weather, why can't we have magnets in the
goal posts to move the football? Feels pretty simple.
Yeah, I do think those theories do sort of carry equal weight in
my mind. I'll put it like that, yeah.
The Steelers just in looking at like Super Bowl odds and stuff,
they're, they're super low. So yeah.
Well, they're they're, they're eight and two, they've got the
Browns twice, They've got the Bengals twice, for what that's
worth. I mean, they're probably in
pretty good shape to get to. They have a tough schedule, but
11-12 wins, if they win that division.
I mean you you could have a Baltimore at Pittsburgh first
round. Right, this, this would, I think
be my advice is that it's very tempting to get fancy in these
contests and be like, Oh my God, think about how much equity I'm
going to gain when the Chargers win the AFCI.
Think it's very similar to the draft games on underdog, the six
man drafts where yes, you can create a ton of leverage, but
you are giving up. If you think about it, you are
giving up quote UN quote a lot of points because of the way the
implied probabilities are. Right now, the implied
probabilities of the market have over 35% of the entire market
generated on not making the Super Bowl, winning the Super
Bowl for the Bills and the Chiefs.
So then you extrapolate that out to making the Super Bowl and
you've got like, what is that set 60?
It's like 65% or something implied probability.
So and then on the NFC side, it's it's even it's it's it's
even wider on the NFC side where the market is giving a ton of
respect to the 49ers. But the the 49ers, like the
49ers have better Super Bowl odds than I think 3 teams ahead
of them in the standings. You know, like marker tassel
just said it in the chat. Playoff basketball is such an
exploitable game where you can just play for the relatively
common outcomes and still print because so much of their so much
of the field. Maybe they're drawing live, but
they're it's fancy like oh. A lot of the field is not
drawing live. That's the big thing with
playoff basketball is that as it was last year and as it probably
will be this year, a lot of the a lot of the field, he's not
drafting teams that are live to win, right?
They, they are drafting teams where they have a kind of a
decision and basically they can tack on Ricky Pearsall, right?
Or they can tack on Jonathan Taylor or George Pickens and
they tack on the guy who they think is going to score more
points. But the problem is that they are
that's their third or fourth AFC team.
And so they're not going to get to the Super Bowl with enough
players that can actually fill out a starting line up.
And then these big tournaments, that means you are dead for
first. So knowing that the field is
still like the last data point we have on this, a lot of the
field was still doing that. If you're just not doing that,
then you have a big edge. And then then you can build like
play basketball is very fun because you're telling me like I
can just build like well constructed versions of the most
likely outcomes. And I have a huge edge.
Like, OK, you know, the I think maybe the 2027 version of this,
you're going to have to go, all right, you got to go.
We got to start taking a little bit bigger stance on which teams
are going to make the Super Bowl and be willing to take on more.
Risk, you know what? Great.
That's a, that is a great point. That is a great point that when
the field is better at it, you're going to have to be like,
well, actually now it does make sense to be taking Bengals 49ers
teams in these playoffs contests because that is not covered by
the field. But right now, Chiefs, Bills.
Lions, Eagles. Yeah, like in the future, I
think you'd basically want to fiddle with the projections and
say, yeah, I'm going to bet that the projections of who was
making the Super Bowl are wrong in these, you know, limited in
sharp ways that basically I think the Bengals are going to
make a run now. And I'm going to bet I'm going
to draft like the Bengals win out.
And and what does that do? You know, in these tournaments?
I think you could do that, but I wouldn't make that like a big
part of what I'm trying to do because you're you're giving up
your fair share of the sharp Bills, Chiefs, Lions for, you
know, whoever, whoever you like you.
Know, and none of this is even getting into player take stuff
by the way of like, oh, there's something exploitable here where
Samaj P Ryan is getting undrafted on Chiefs teams.
But some percentage of the time when the Chiefs make the Super
Bowl, P Ryan is playing the McKinnon snaps and scores a 13
yard touchdown or whatever. So like so that's before you.
That's true. That would be before even what
we're saying with the Bengals, Yeah.
Yeah, like that, like that is like you before even getting
into that level stuff of like, yeah, you, we, we, there, there
are play, there are player take stuffs here for sure.
Trying to middle this, then respecting like the the
difference drafting now and then later a couple of teams that I
want to find out what side you might be on or even just sort of
moving on from the the draft part of it.
Just getting a sense of the outlook.
The Packers at 7:00 and 3:00. There's another team that got
away with it yesterday on a missed field goal at the end of
the game. Fantasy wise, still somewhat,
well, maybe not perplexing. I was going to say Christian
Watson yesterday, 4 for 150, nothing from Wix.
I guess there's some correlation there.
How good do you guys feel, Pat? How good do you feel about Green
Bay, either in the context of the the playoff stuff or just
even fantasy in general? Green Bay is, I think, an
interesting one because you can you can tack.
There's like enough pieces. It's like a pretty deep team and
it's like it's also wide receiver and flex pieces.
One of the things that play at best ball is you like you really
want your running backs tied to your quarterbacks And like the
way roster construction works is that you don't want to draft
many running backs and therefore you don't want to burn running
backs. And so you want to the teams
that are more interesting to take like kind of late tackle on
Flyers. Like, oh, you know what, I'm
actually going to add a fourth team in this bill, the second
NFC team. It would be spots where I can
add wider super tight end and you know, the Packers have
Watson and and Wicks, I guess, and craft.
So they've got these like later later dark.
Girls, they only ran 46 plays on offense yesterday.
They do seem to be a conservative.
I guess that is the problem is that they do.
They have been a pretty conservative run first run heavy
team even with love but. You like?
Do you like them or Minnesota more?
Pains, pains me to say it because I'm such a KOC Jefferson
slappy, but like, this is a team that is just begging to lose a
home playoff game. Just just absolutely begging to
lose a home. Playoff, I think I prefer the
Packers too. Yeah, yeah, I'd like the
quarterback better. I think the coaching is probably
pretty similar and then in terms of playoff basketball, stuff
like it's a deeper team. Like if I'm tacking on a piece a
little bit later, there's some like there's a much better odds
of them actually contributing, you know, like I don't want to
have to pay it for Jefferson. That's the.
Who? Who is Minnesota?
Sorry to move so fast on you guys.
Who is Minnesota's Week 1 starter next year?
Darnold. He's on a one year deal, he's on
a one year deal. It's going to be it's.
Going to be the Gino. It's going to be the Gino thing.
They brought Gino into Seattle on a one year deal.
He played well. They make the playoffs.
I think it's McCarthy, man. I think they think they start
McCarthy. I think that's the year the
Seahawks lost in San Francisco in the first round, maybe.
I can't, I don't, you know, honestly Pat it just to me, it's
kind of just like what happens in the playoffs.
Like imagine they imagine they win a road game against the
Lions or something. Oh well, sure, if they beat the
lions on the road I will change my tune.
But where it stands right now, I mean, Darnold looks very much
like a product of the system and the weapons.
For sure. And they have a really good
defense too. So it's like it's not even just
the offense carrying them. And they spent a first round
pick on McCarthy if as long as his knee.
I know he had that second surgery, but it didn't seem like
it changed the timeline. If you know, if it doesn't look
like he's going to be like fully ready to go if he misses a big
part of the offseason program, then again, I reserve the right
to change my mind. But as it stands right now, I
think it's probably McCarthy. Let's get Darnold to Vegas.
Does he throw with the tight end?
He does. Let's get Let's get Donald to
Vegas. How about Bowers?
I mean, Bowers is would Bowers he's going to so right now
Bowers is going to break the record for most receptions ever
for a rookie. We're doing a dynasty startup
tomorrow, superflex tight end premium.
Where does Bowers is the blank non QB.
So so take the quarterbacks out of it.
I'll hide Jefferson, Chase Bowers.
Bowers, that's what I would do. Yep.
You could argue to me to take him over either the wide
receivers, honestly, because like, someone was making this
point. I've been doing a bad job at
remembering who makes these points on on Twitter.
But someone, someone made the point that, like the way Bowers
is being used is not like Pitts being awesome as a rookie.
It's it's he's just much more dominant, dude.
Yeah, like. It's also much like, I think for
our purposes, we want the guy to be a little bit more of a PPR
scam kind of underneath. Like just give us the
consistency. A tight end, you're gonna give
me consistency like. You're gonna get, you're gonna
give me wide receiver 1 stats at tight end.
Yeah, I'm, I'm taking. Yeah, just like a a sweet target
share, you know, on on very catchable targets and then
adding yards after catch. It's that's The thing is it's
not like he's just a PPR scam. He's got a 55 yard touchdown and
a 35 yard touchdown already this season, right?
I I think that's my top three including quarterbacks by the
way, I think that would be still my top three.
So the quarterback market is kind of getting shaken up in
super? Parts huh?
My headphones just died. With like you.
Know well who who is QB one in in dynasty in Davis's draft
tomorrow is it? I think it would be Lamar
Jackson for me. Probably Lamar.
Yeah, it's probably Lamar, but it could be.
I mean, I think Allen still has a case.
Yeah, they, they both. They're going to be the state
Daniels. Yeah, much younger.
Daniels I think the thing with Daniels is that you're not
gaining that much in terms of like what the guy's going to be
worth next year or the year after.
You're not getting that much upside on a Lamar or an Allen,
and you're still taking on a lot more risk like that.
Like we have seen, you know, RG3, we've seen these guys like
kind of come in and on some real talent.
But like, you know, I don't know, I want to see like a more
sustained resume of success at the NFL level, especially for
guys really skinny, takes a lot of hits, you know, is based
around his running. Lamar we know can do like you
have all the same issues with Lamar, I guess.
But like we know that Lamar is just a different dude.
I'm still like, I would like to see more from Daniels before I
just treat him like that. So the the thing with Daniels is
that I don't have a ton of concerns about him running in
every game. Like any random game, Lamar can
just not run. You know what I'm saying?
Like where where Lamar will just show up and be like, well, I'm
not running today because because we don't need it.
Like the commanders are not that good of a team to do that
basically. Now, Lamar, someone's saying in
the chat like Lamar is really good at protecting his body.
Yeah, 100% true. Lamar never gets hit cleanly.
Daniels not the same. I don't know what this is about
Pat, but I I'm always a little worried that Jalen Hurts is
going to go to 0 at any time. I think it's because it's
because his bad games are so bad.
His bad games are like I can't imagine this guy ever being good
and then obviously shows up the next game is phenomenal but like
a bad Jalen Hurts game is so bad.
I think it's cuz like Jalen Hurts sometimes looks like he's
like throwing a baseball or something.
I don't. Know and it's like this weird
like looping thing you're like no like just.
But then he sometimes also like some of his throws look like,
you know, like you play baseball at all as a kid yeah yeah, like
I was always the the coolest throws to me were always from
the outfield with like you did the crow hop and then just like
that yeah he's got that going on where you're just like oh it's
very it's still kind of baseball Y but it's it's much more
aesthetically pleasing. I don't know I I don't think you
know what would make a huge ship.
Maybe I wonder how much of your worry is actually related to
like what if the tush push just went away?
What if they just? Oh, well, if the tush push goes
away, he's Daniel Jones basically.
Like he's basically Daniel Jones.
If the if the tush push goes away, it's a bad, bad.
Like, can you, by the way, Can you imagine, you know, Ben
Soleck did that tweet last week about what has happened when
Saquon Barkley got to the one yard line and they've all turned
into Hertz touchdowns. Can you imagine if those nine
touchdowns were all Barkley touchdowns instead of her?
So like, what would his advance rate be if he had nine more?
100% I think you don't even need.
You don't even need to draft he. Didn't need to draft the other.
Players Saquon Barkley log off. By the way, Saquon Barkley and
Alvin Kamara, I mean, I cannot wait to have none of them next
year. They are, you know, do you know
how Barkley might actually be the first pick next year?
Yeah, I'll, I'll just fade them again.
I mean like, can you? Can you imagine?
Pat anything here for any any what shots you want to take it
my Internet going out like at least we're doing this show in
the morning when there's not a game on.
It is on print, but there's there's not a game on that's
like a a an hour behind where you're telling me you know what?
Oh, it's 21 to. 10:00 You got Josh Allen's touchdown run on a
loop that's probably sucking up all the bandwidth.
Yeah, that sounds like me. I will talk to Sean McDermott
later today. I'll make sure not to mention
anything Davis said, but that that'll be on my on my local
show later. All right.
I'm good if you guys are. Yeah, I think there was one
other thing I wanted to talk about.
Oh, we, we do need to talk about this.
Christian McCaffrey came back from the IR like, oh, dude, it's
time. All those McCaffrey teams who
are bidding their time, it's like Ezekiel Elliott, man.
He's averaging 3.7 yards per carry.
Is he, is he, is he hurt? Is it just like he's going to be
fine? He needs to get in shape.
What's the like? I mean, I'm not like raising the
alarm right now, but he's been like, you called him Zeke, so
you're not. What would it look like if you
were raising the alarm? I said.
I said he looks like. Zeke not he will look.
Like Zeke next week. But like, are are we concerned?
Is it just like he's a 29 year old running back with Achilles
tendonitis? Like what?
I don't, I, I don't know. I don't know the answer.
I haven't seen him in these two games.
But the numbers aren't, are they that bad?
Like yesterday he had really bad in his first week so he had.
Three yards per carry, last in his first game back and brush
threads ever expected was atrocious.
But is it 4.2 yards per carry yesterday?
4 catches Yeah and from what I. Saw he looked fine.
Like I, I wasn't, he looked with McCaffrey, he didn't have that.
Like, you know, like McCaffrey kind of, he goes to the line and
he's like, kind of like doing his little weave and then he
burst through and then he burst through.
He didn't have that last. Part yet, but.
I don't know, I it made me I felt more encouraged after
yesterday. Let me let me pull up his
rushers over. Davis is Christian McCaffrey,
the Aaron. Jones of Ezekiel Elliott's.
I think that might be a good comp actually, yeah.
That that might be, that might be a good comp, But I, I will
say this, man, if CMC is cheap next year, I, I'm going to learn
my lesson on the Kamara. I'm going to learn my lesson on
the Kamara thing, which is when they when they're giving me an
old guy at a giant discount because they're expecting the
Cliff to come. You got to do it, especially if
the guy catches passes. I think we'd.
All been burned by by David Johnson so hard that like that
just it's so hard for me to get back on board with Camara I'm
still mad at myself for Camara because Camara did this to us
last year yeah and then we're like let's price him the same
and see what happens and see what happens when I.
Draft a bag? I don't know.
I connor's the same thing right? I mean almost the same.
Thing Conrad got on board with. Conrad got on board.
With Camara, I didn't get on board.
I think it was like if he had to hold out noises.
The same were such an atrocious organization.
I was just like, I can't and Arizona drafted a replacement.
Whereas New Orleans, just there was no, no clear answer other
than Camaro. I know it was a big, big miss.
McCaffrey had 7 rushers over expected last week with a 44%
success rate, so it was actually a decent game this past, but he
just was terrible against the Bucks and he just hasn't scored.
He just hasn't scored. Right.
I think you're. I mean, he's one of those guys
that'd be really psyched to advance if you get a McCaffrey
team. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Watch. Out five and five San.
Francisco at Green Bay at Buffalo next two weeks.
Fun. This has been fun.
Thanks again for having me. Pat Davis.
I'm Mike Shope. Is this where I ask you guys
where people can can find you? Is if anybody watching ADP
chasing on a Monday morning, wouldn't you?
Oh, Week 11. Yeah.
Immediately after this stream ends, it's going to.
Go over to my channel and I'm going to draft a bunch of these
underdog, way too early playoff contests.
There's big, there's little, there's medium.
Have at it. Find Davis in there.
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