1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,840 All right, today on Ship Chasing, we've got a special 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,720 guest, I believe his first time on the channel, Theo Greminger 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,160 from Fantasy Points. We're going to chop it up on a 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,480 variety of topics, including those dusty veterans none of us 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,520 want to take, but who might have one last ride in them for our 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,760 best ball teams. Also maybe taking a little peek 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,880 at the season long ADP, seeing some of the differences there. 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,880 I'm Pete with Davis, Pat and guest Theo. 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:32,360 Let's do it. Pat Fryer, Helmo, this is Anita 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,320 Handjob. Fix your sight. 11 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:40,600 Jamar and Alpha play chase. You can't. 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,840 Handle the heat. It looks like we're finally at 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:53,800 this point, you're right. All right, Theo, welcome to the 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,920 show. I've been enjoying listening to 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,560 some of your podcasts over on the The Fantasy Points network. 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,360 You guys have been cranking out some Dynasty stuff and a lot of 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,800 good redraft content as well. Welcome to ship chasing. 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,280 No. Happy to be here, guys. 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,080 Yeah, Pat came on, Davis has been on. 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,200 Pete, we gotta get you on. But yeah, we've been busy over 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,080 there. It's been a really good 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,280 offseason. Stoked to be over at fantasy 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,680 points and and happy to be chopping up with you guys as 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,400 well. This should be a lot of fun. 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,840 Awesome, Pat, how are we doing? You still live in the the 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,400 Brooklyn Nomad life. Yeah, I'm in. 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,680 I'm in Manhattan actually. And yeah, just got in on Monday. 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,680 Spending some time here, just kind of little, little vacation 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,200 slash. I don't know. 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,600 It's not vacation because I'm still working, but it's it's a 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,880 new place. It feels, it feels like vacation 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,440 when you're yeah, it feels like working from a crouched position 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,080 in the corner of the room and that your kid is making noises. 34 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:48,240 You're you're like, dude, this is the life, man. 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,000 Well. Did you? 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,280 You and you packed. Were you here earlier like that? 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,920 You just described my early afternoon perfectly. 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,000 And you packed your full mic set up like that's how you know it's 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,000 not just a vacation. Like if you're bringing the big 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,880 boy mic, you're you're, you're there to work. 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,600 No, I brought the. I've got a big suitcase. 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:12,720 So I've got I'm taking a lake vacation in July and like my 43 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,320 plan is to not work, but I'm going to be gone for eight days. 44 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,120 So I got it. I probably have to bring the mic 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,880 like there's just like I just. Early July or late July? 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,080 July 12th, so like that. That's like a better period than 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,560 I always remember it being. I'm going to be getting back 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,280 after camp. OK, sorry Theo, you just are now 49 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,000 eavesdropping on our logistical. I gotta, we gotta get, we gotta 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,760 get Davis one of the little tiny wearable mics. 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,520 Like he's one of the yeah. To make to make tik toks right? 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,800 To make tik toks for sure. Well, I was gonna say, 'cause 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,320 Davis, we, I'd already talked to Pat, 'cause I'm gonna go up to 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,720 or go down to New York. And I think it's like the 11th. 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,080 And we're probably gonna take that Thursday show off anyway. 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,320 So you, I think you'll be, you'll be good there. 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,520 Wow. We timed this pretty well. 58 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,840 Literally, literally perfect. Yes, but Theo, you, you said you 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,760 draft everything right. You're in the best ball streets. 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,520 Obviously the dynasty, the season long what? 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,680 Which one of those formats do you consider your your baby? 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,560 Or do you view them all like a children you love equally? 63 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,680 I mean, I, I think that anybody who plays dynasty like secretly 64 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,960 has like a, a real love for dynasty because you're 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,120 constantly looking at your dynasty teams all year. 66 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,800 Long. Yeah, well, I don't know. 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,120 It's, it's like, I don't know. I feel like redraft is what I 68 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,480 talk about most. Most of my podcasts are redraft. 69 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,200 I've had probably the most success in redraft, but over the 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:39,120 last maybe 5-6 years it's been like a move towards taking on 71 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,280 even more volume in dynasty. So I just always bite off a 72 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,160 little bit more than I can chew. Wednesday nights are complete 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,600 torture for me. Waivers are absolutely awful, 74 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,920 but I love it. And then best ball. 75 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,800 I think you sort of have to play if you're a serious player. 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,880 Now if you're not getting in early best balls, then like what 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,640 are you doing? Nothing prepares you more than 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,240 drafting a ton, a ton of best balls. 79 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,160 So obviously I have to do that. FFPC and underdog for me for 80 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,520 best balls, but I'll play NFFC, I'll play FFPC for the high 81 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,560 stakes. And then dynasty wise, I try to 82 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,560 keep it almost all on FFPC just for the logistics. 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,399 And then I'm in a couple of other leagues I'm in. 84 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:20,000 I'm in one with Davis. We had that big trade a couple 85 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,480 of months ago and a couple other like MFL type sleeper type 86 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,120 leagues, but not too many of those. 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,880 Oh yeah, you were the person who fleeced Davis so he could draft 88 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,320 Ashton Genti, Is that correct? We we were both happy. 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,560 Literally. Literally. 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Both happy. We're both happy. 91 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,560 I think it did actually end up working out like he he got three 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,320 guys who wouldn't crack my starting lineup and he got and 93 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,160 he likes all of them. Yeah, I mean, I got I got Travis 94 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Hunter, Ted McMillan, Colston Loveland. 95 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,880 So we I had a nice walk away and we did this before the actual 96 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,440 NFL draft. So I sort of ran pure with the 97 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,680 Loveland landing spot, obviously Travis Hunter. 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,920 You also ran pure with draft with donkeys, 'cause I think you 99 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:09,120 got, I think you got Ted at 616, which is just like, all right, 100 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,920 guys. Yeah, Tyler Warren went at the 101 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,480 one O 3 in that league. Tyler Warren was one O 3. 102 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,600 So there you go. There you go. 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,400 B What any kind of meta or big landscape things that you're 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,440 picking up on this year? Obviously we're all kind of 105 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,680 navigating this new ADP on Underdog where the quarterbacks 106 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,000 are really cheap right now, lots of tight end values. 107 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,640 How are you kind of enjoying to attack things right now? 108 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,200 I think in in FFPC the I've I've really kind of enjoyed drafting 109 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,920 from like the back end of the first round. 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,640 I think like being at the end in FFPC is is a real real advantage 111 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,160 to you right now. I think in other formats you can 112 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,080 kind of win from everywhere, but FFPC you get access to, you 113 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,440 know, potentially drafting a Trey McBride at the end of the 114 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,440 first round, get the elite tight end. 115 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,800 And then you could also go with a like one of the anchor R BS 116 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,160 and then come up come across with like a Drake London, a lad 117 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Mcconkey. So one of my big take away is as 118 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,800 the summer moves on, just how strong that trio of second round 119 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,560 wide receivers are. I think like if we were drafting 120 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,280 a few years ago where people were less running back 121 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:20,920 enthusiastic guys like Drake, London, guys like Vlad Mcconkey, 122 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,560 if this was, you know, even 3-4 years ago, I think people would 123 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,920 have been making a lot more arguments. 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,520 Take those guys from the first round. 125 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 So I've really liked sort of the the anchor RB and then follow up 126 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,640 with London, follow up with Mcconkey or A.J. 127 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,240 Brown. So it's that's sort of been my 128 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,960 take away, but it's sort of sort of shaping itself out as we get 129 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,280 into July. I'm open to multiple strategies 130 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:44,560 this year too. Not sure what's going to be the 131 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,560 optimal one by the end of the summer, but I do like drafting 132 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,320 from the back in FFPC right now. Pat, I know you guys. 133 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,360 Have you just dropped some Eliminator rankings? 134 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,040 I know you guys are working on some SIM stuff. 135 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,160 Any new insights over there from the leg up bunker? 136 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Yeah, we we did a stream earlier this week with Shady announcing 137 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,160 that we have Sims of the season, which is pretty fun and and 138 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,080 we're able to evaluate teams that have been drafted, which we 139 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,560 did for the stream. But we're also going to have 140 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,520 some updates to the Sidekick which utilize those Sims to 141 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,160 create some new stuff we can do like supporting Eliminator and 142 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,560 alternate formats like that. One of the insights I would say 143 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,360 from testing with the with the SIM driven sidekick is like some 144 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,120 of these running backs that I don't really like to take are 145 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,600 pretty good picks this year, especially if you feel you need. 146 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,440 To tell me in half PPR running backs might be a little bit 147 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,680 undervalued by a community. I think just. 148 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Wants to make Jerry Judy a fifth round pick. 149 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,520 Yeah. Speak about that. 150 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,520 Cherry duty is the exact example. 151 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,800 It's like we're it's, it's because of like what's available 152 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,680 later at the running back position versus what's available 153 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,480 later at the receiver position. It's like you can wait a couple 154 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,440 rounds and get Jayden Reed or, you know, wait a couple rounds 155 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,800 of running back and things get even more fragile. 156 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,160 So taking these guys like mixing and Hubbard and and I mean also 157 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,400 like Harvey and Henderson. So it's not just fragile 158 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,560 profiles there. That's something I'm doing more 159 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,480 of now then I probably would have done. 160 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Another thing is that it really 3 quarterbacks is probably under 161 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,560 utilized at these prices and with and with these other 162 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,000 options in the late rounds, in the mid to late, you know, mid 163 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,480 to basically throughout the teen rounds, throughout the round 10 164 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:43,000 plus those, it's like there's not a ton of guys that anyone's 165 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,720 super excited to draft. And then you just have these 166 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,040 quarterback points just like falling and falling and falling. 167 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,240 I was going to take unstack CJ Stroud today at like 150, which 168 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,240 is, you know, 14 picks past ADP. He ended up going before I went. 169 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,400 But like, stuff like that I think is actually, it's not like 170 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,560 the sexiest stuff, but trying to advance, trying to get through a 171 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:08,000 playoff week, you know, single One Nation week where that guy 172 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,960 happened to hit your line up. I think it's probably an 173 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,520 underutilized tactic right now. One of the things that was said 174 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:16,400 on that pod that really stuck with me about the three 175 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,880 quarterback thing. And I, I don't remember which of 176 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:24,320 you guys said it, but this idea of not only are you taking maybe 177 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,360 an undervalued asset, let's say like the Geno Smith, Bryce 178 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,760 Young, but you also are avoiding taking a potential landmine at 179 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,920 another position. It's like it's not even what 180 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,280 you're adding. It's like, OK, maybe this is a 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,120 luxury to my quarterback room, but you're avoiding a really bad 182 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,600 pick in a kind of treacherous area of the draft board. 183 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,040 Exactly. And I, I'm curious because this 184 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,240 is the first time we've done this. 185 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,080 So I don't know what the end of the summer is going to look 186 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,600 like. But I actually think my theory 187 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,880 is that it's not like 3 quarterbacks will go away 188 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,960 because we're seeing 3 quarterbacks recommended on 189 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,760 teams with Josh Allen, on teams with Jayden Daniels, all of 190 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,280 these elites, It's popping up. If it if it makes sense, you 191 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,400 know it makes sense. It's not. 192 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,880 And it's it makes sense on a lot of builds in a lot of different 193 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,920 ways. So I think at the end of the 194 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,000 summer, three quarterback builds are still going to look like 195 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,600 something that's very, very viable. 196 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,520 But I do think that in some cases, you know it, you'll 197 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,280 you'll see a lesson in the player recommendations because 198 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,440 there will be running backs that we're really excited about that 199 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,160 weren't getting drafted at all earlier in the tournament and 200 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,000 are now like priority targets. And that's kind of the part that 201 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,960 we're lacking right now in the final rounds. 202 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,680 There are guys that I really like, but honestly it's more 203 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:38,760 like receivers, like a Pat Bryant, some tight ends that I 204 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,640 like, that type of thing. We don't yet have those running 205 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,440 backs that are just absolute smashes. 206 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,800 Partly cause like we can't. Part of the reason that they are 207 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,640 absolute smashes is 'cause you just gotta have. 208 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,560 Celebrity courage of your convictions spoiler One of the 209 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,480 one of the only players I've drafted more than 8.3% of is an 210 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,920 18th round running back. I I think there's. 28. 211 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Yeah, well, and and Audric estimate he's dead now. 212 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,920 So that's why you only take 8.3%. 213 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,440 Of Davis has made the huge you gonna leap as an individual 214 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,160 where he's hiding his laundry fandom in the 18th round instead 215 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,560 of the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round yeah that's true it's. 216 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,720 Like it's like, it's like, you know, I look, man, I'm not 217 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,320 getting out of my skis on Rashi. I'm not getting out of my skis. 218 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,080 I'm worthy. I'm making myself eat my Mike 219 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Evans vegetables. But it's like around 18, a 220 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,920 little SMU converted wide receiver to a running back treat 221 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,720 like, like, imagine this is not the thesis of this show. 222 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,080 We're supposed to talk about the opposite of this. 223 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,160 But imagine prime Dexter Mccluster, not with Alex Smith, 224 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,920 but with Mahomes. That sounds pretty fun to me, 225 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,120 right? Plus rebar. 226 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Reebs gave me permission. Reebs said. 227 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Reebs said all these other guys are stiffs. 228 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,400 Come on, just let it happen. Yeah, and also, if you're 229 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 investing in Isaiah, Pacheco is pretty cheap right now. 230 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,160 It's not hard to envision that the only two fantasy viable 231 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,400 backs for for like underdog would be Pacheco and Richard 232 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Smith. So you can essentially get the 233 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,400 entire Kansas City backfield pretty cheap right now. 234 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Davis. Yeah, what it, you know, maybe 235 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,160 the segue into, into some of these intriguing bets. 236 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,760 I do think 1 interesting point to start is with these 237 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,720 underpriced or do you find them overpriced tight ends, we 238 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,240 obviously have Travis, Kelsey, Mark Andrews way cheaper. 239 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,640 Even the Godder and Ferguson tier is way cheaper than they 240 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,440 were in previous years. Theo, do you do you find 241 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,400 yourself gravitating to some of these veterans? 242 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Are you kind of chasing younger options? 243 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,280 David Ninjoku, I find myself drafting a lot in multiple 244 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,680 formats. I like Ninjoku a lot, and I know 245 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:45,200 there's like the threat of Harold Fannon Junior this year, 246 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,520 even cutting in just a little bit, but there's so much to like 247 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,320 here. It's just a very simple bet. 248 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,120 Can Ninjoko be a top 2 target in Cleveland? 249 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,400 It's a team that lacks pass catching weapons and Ninjoku's 250 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,960 delivered for us for two straight years, been a really 251 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,160 high target earner, a spike week guy. 252 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:04,440 And we also get like the potential that there could be a 253 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,960 bunch of a bunch of Joe Flacco starts this year where Flacco 254 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,720 loved in Joku. It was like such a cheat code to 255 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,920 have in joke in your lineup when Flacco started. 256 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,520 I think that that's out there. So in Joku's priced really 257 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,760 correctly right now for a guy that I think could deliver. 258 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,440 And it's kind of funny where usually we're I try to avoid 259 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,600 like that low end tight end one type bet where you're better off 260 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,280 going with the elite tight end or piecemealing it together with 261 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,720 sort of upside guys. But I like in Joku, I think Evan 262 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,040 Engram, you also want to have a little bit of exposure to for 263 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,280 the same sort of argument that he could be a top 2 target in 264 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,800 what should be a pretty good offense. 265 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,400 You have the Sean Payton factor, the idea of Ingram in the slot, 266 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,840 maybe you know, the whole joker conversation. 267 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,120 So I don't know, I kind of, I kind of don't mind those veteran 268 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,880 tight ends, the low end tight end one types. 269 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,400 And then there's a couple of others sort of like later on. 270 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,160 But I'd say specifically in joke, who's the guy that I'm 271 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,760 into right now at ADP in multiple formats? 272 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,320 Yeah, and Joko was my my top one. 273 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:13,280 I mean, he just is like worst case scenario is he probably 274 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,480 gets like 800 yards on a just an absolute dog shit Browns team. 275 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,560 But any OK, this is a good one any week that Joe Flacco is the 276 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,400 starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. 277 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:29,160 What is the Michael Leone projection for or the 278 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,800 fantasypoints.com projection for David and Joku? 279 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:37,040 Higher or lower Weekly median ranking in projected points 8 280 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,320 1/2 at at tight end, Yeah. He's probably a smidge above 281 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,320 that, I think. A higher higher, higher, higher, 282 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,240 higher for. Sure. 283 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,400 So I think that's it right there. 284 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,160 That is a funny thing you think about because I, I, I do think 285 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,960 his price is driven in a, in a big way by the quarterback 286 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,400 uncertainty. But like if you told drafters, 287 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,800 hey, you're going to get Joe Flacco weeks 15 through 17, 288 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,600 Najoku is probably going 2 rounds higher. 289 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,760 Like if if drafters actually knew that. 290 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Yeah, Yeah. I think that like if he. 291 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,800 Follows sometimes too, like in Joku, I'm not that into him, but 292 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,480 then I'll just be sitting there and he's like, he's still here. 293 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,120 And at a certain point I kind of feel this way with the Colts 294 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,640 receivers now. I've just gotten kind of more 295 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,080 and more in. And Richardson tweaked his 296 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,240 shoulder apparently, so that's more likely to be Jones. 297 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,800 But I'm like, at at what point do I just like take players who 298 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,360 are good and earn targets and I don't have to know exactly how 299 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,680 the quarterback situation plays out. 300 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,760 Like, it'll play out how it plays out, you know, But yeah, 301 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,360 like, at at what point are we basically saying like, they're 302 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,400 not going to have a quarterback, They're they're just going to 303 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,000 run constantly or something Like, you know, and Joku, he 304 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,520 really, he really can slip. And it's like him versus Dalton 305 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,920 Kincaid, who's dealing with like some sort of lava lamp issue in 306 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,600 his knee. Like I, I don't. 307 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Yeah, you could get like a Joku. You could just you could just 308 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,200 get him in like the one 40s. Yeah, any anytime, anytime you 309 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,200 guys do a podcast talking about week 17 game stacks and your 310 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,680 favorite games. I think in Joku slips a little 311 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,320 bit because right that that Cleveland Pittsburgh game, no 312 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,200 one wants any part of that game whatsoever. 313 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,440 There's no correlation for Cleveland. 314 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,920 So there's no no quarterback receiver correlation whatsoever. 315 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,840 There's no week 17 correlation. No one's trying to cram in like 316 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,600 ADK, Metcalf, Jerry, Judy, David has No 2 lines like frozen. 317 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,080 Any quarters guys are a little bit. 318 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,400 Lower I I will say though, but we do have breaking news. 319 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,560 The Chad is all over this. I just confirmed that Aaron 320 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,880 Rodgers did just officially sign with the Steelers. 321 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,960 So we have one quarterback from the Turd Bowl. 322 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,720 Not exactly what what he said is that he told Jerry Dulak he 323 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,120 plans on signing before the camp is over. 324 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,480 So I need to see ink on paper with with Rogers. 325 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,760 I can't. Believe, I mean, this is getting 326 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,680 reported by every large, you know, national reporter. 327 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,000 But leave it to Rogers to somehow milk an announcement of 328 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,319 an announcement like he just. It's called the Turd Bull for a 329 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:09,119 reason, you know. How about this? 330 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Let's get it the alive instant reactions. 331 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,440 What does Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers do for the offense and 332 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:20,319 and maybe the prices in drafts? Well, I think it it makes them 333 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:22,760 go up because we actually have an answer to who's going to be 334 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,359 the quarterback in Pittsburgh. It's not going to be some like 335 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,800 awful disaster. We saw Rodgers support Devante 336 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,640 Adams last year. Devante played really, really 337 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,360 well with Rodgers last year. I think it was 1718 points per 338 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:39,640 game in games with Rodgers. I think DK Metcalf and we talked 339 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,400 a little bit in the pre show about guys whose ADP is higher 340 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,680 among main event drafters and early FPC ADP versus like the 341 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,520 underdog drafter, DK Metcalf is higher. 342 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,000 And I think DK Metcalf is going to creep up a little bit more 343 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,280 now with Rogers there because there's no wide receiver target 344 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,240 competition whatsoever for DK. Now we have some clarity at the 345 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,040 quarterback. And when it's Aaron Rodgers, we 346 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,200 know he's going to hyper target the guy he trusts. 347 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,720 He's not going to trust any of those other wide outs in 348 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,000 Pittsburgh. There's not going to be like 349 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,800 some love love for like Calvin Austin or Roman Wilson. 350 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,520 It's going to be DK Metcalf on on all passing downs. 351 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,560 And I think like the Arthur Smith, like at the end of the 352 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,720 day, Arthur Smith, the fears go out the window a little bit with 353 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Rodgers there because if he's such a strong personality, going 354 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,600 to kind of audible into his own stuff and he's not signing with 355 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,360 Pittsburgh to have like NFL low pass attempts next year. 356 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,200 Yeah, I mean, Gravis, you are you're you're a big Caleb 357 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,880 Johnson Bolt. Does this make you more excited 358 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,680 about the run game? I would say it's like probably 359 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,040 slightly better for Jalen Warren than Caleb. 360 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,400 Not that it's bad for Caleb Johnson, but if I was saying who 361 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,680 is this upgrade? Like Warren I would say is 362 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,320 probably an early favorite to get the passing downs 'cause 363 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,640 that was the way he was used. I mean, in a backfield with Naji 364 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,800 Harris now, I think Caleb Johnson is much better than Naji 365 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,240 Harris. I mean, they can now be the 19th 366 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,200 best offense in the NFL instead of the 27th best offense in the 367 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,680 NFL. But I frankly, I feel like that 368 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:19,560 was priced in like the DK Metcalf cannot possibly be a 369 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,000 four or five turn pick. If the market really thought 370 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,760 Mason Rudolph was going to be the quarterback, maybe maybe the 371 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,680 market was holding on to Kurt Cousins possibility. 372 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,680 You want to Kirk Cousins is now out of spots. 373 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,920 There's no there's no where Kirk can go. 374 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,880 So Congrats to the Falcons. You played yourself because it 375 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,960 feels like you probably could have eaten about half of that 376 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,920 deal and got him out of it. And now you just are going to 377 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,160 have Kirk cousins in that quarterback room with Michael 378 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Pennix all year. So shout out, shout out to the. 379 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,360 I wonder if they want the the Dalton out that the Panthers had 380 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:53,640 last year, Like just in case Pennix struggles, they could go 381 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,120 back to Kirk for a minute and then back to to Pennix or 382 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:57,080 something. I don't know. 383 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,680 But they if they, if they really want to get off Kirk, they 384 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,040 completely mismanaged that. Well, what about this? 385 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,400 Yeah, I mean, for the pass catchers, it really, you know, 386 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,200 DK Metcalf, what early fifth round and then Pat Fryermuth, 387 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,280 pretty cheap, but no other pieces from that passing game 388 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,200 getting drafted. Does this make a guy like Calvin 389 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:23,880 Austin more interesting to you? Does is this like, does the Janu 390 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,000 trade actually go down now that they've got Rogers? 391 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,280 Do they try and go get a second pass catcher? 392 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,160 I think that sort of would scare me off of trying to cram in a 393 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,560 bunch of Pat Fryermuth if you like him in right right now, 394 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,960 'cause I think if Janu shows up, it's not necessarily gonna mean 395 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,080 they move on from Firemouth. He's just gonna take a back 396 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,840 seat. And the secondary. 397 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:44,920 You can make an argument if the tight end is the secondary 398 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,320 target in Arthur Smith offense, he's still viable, but a #3 399 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,880 receive receiver would be completely wiped out. 400 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,680 It would nuke both tight ends like Janu and Firemouth would 401 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,400 both be. They wouldn't be like totally 402 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,840 undraftable, but it would seriously hurt both of their 403 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,640 value. I really hope that doesn't 404 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,880 happen. It sounds like that's more 405 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,440 coming from Janu because he wants the new contract and the 406 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,640 Sears might be willing to give it to him. 407 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,120 So he's like, I got to go, like, have a bad time in Pittsburgh, 408 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,320 but maybe it's worth enough money and I'll go do it. 409 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:18,280 I really hope that doesn't happen though. 410 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,040 Yeah, it'd be awful. What about this one for 411 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,600 connecting the dots? Wouldn't Keenan Allen make so 412 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,160 much sense in Pittsburgh right now? 413 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,360 Do you think he'll? Listen to the Rogers. 414 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,920 Talk about the Epstein files though. 415 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,240 Like, I feel like Keenan Allen might be past the age of dealing 416 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,360 with that bullshit, you know what I'm saying? 417 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,360 He's. Like Keenan, Allen is past the 418 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,080 age of getting to have a choice on what? 419 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,400 I don't. Know. 420 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,880 I was just talking about this with Herzig and my guess is that 421 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,080 Keenan Allen's order of operations is 1. 422 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,480 He's probably made enough money, so he I would say number one 423 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,200 place he'd like to play somewhere warm. 424 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,360 Yeah, in LA. He said that he wants to play in 425 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,120 LA. Somewhere. 426 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:01,160 Somewhere warm. Winning somewhere then then 427 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:01,640 making. Money. 428 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,600 Well, he also said Chicago, which is where he already lives, 429 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,040 which is a classic old guy move. You know, I just get. 430 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,000 Let me stay put. That'd be my first choice. 431 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,480 Or I'll go to LA. Yeah. 432 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,520 Yeah. Amari Cooper, he's still 433 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,040 unsigned. He could go there, I guess. 434 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,680 Yeah, I just think that that feels likely. 435 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,520 Amari man just getting passed around like. 436 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,720 A Gabe. I mean Gabe Davis feels like. 437 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,720 Also, didn't he already? Have a They were connected to 438 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,040 him, yeah. Yeah. 439 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,840 But that's like, they're like, hey, can we interest you in an 440 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,160 even worse version of George Pitt, who we just let go 441 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,040 introducing? Honestly, Alan Lazard asking for 442 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,080 his release would be another another move. 443 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,160 That would just be no, dude, they're gonna, they're gonna 444 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,240 have to trade for him. They're gonna, they're gonna, 445 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,000 they're going to have to trade like a conditional 4th round 446 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,040 pick to The Jets to get Rogers. But I guarantee that's part of 447 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,080 like Rogers being like, you're gonna give me my boy, right? 448 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,720 Mercedes Lewis has a job. Do you think that's what's been 449 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,960 holding up this whole thing is that they were just adamant they 450 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,720 wouldn't trade for Lizard and he was using this leverage to get 451 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,800 them to you? Know the Steelers a once proud 452 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,120 organization one of the few family owned teams left right 453 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:21,600 long tradition and to see them bend the knee to this yeah I 454 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,080 know Joe Rogan podcast guest is just. 455 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,920 Wait until they sign Randall Cobb. 456 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,000 Randall Cobb is the one. Yeah, 34 year old Randall Cobb. 457 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,880 Week 1, everyone's gonna get a book on in Egyptology, but like 458 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,200 not like a scholarly Egypt. Like that's gonna be the 459 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,120 giveaway. Like instead of bobbleheads, but 460 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:44,760 but not not academic Egyptology, the type of Egyptology that 461 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,760 Aaron Rodgers. Is, yeah. 462 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,880 You know, yeah. But like, how depressing is 463 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,160 that? Like if you're like sitting 464 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,200 around, you're looking at Rodgers coming here and you're 465 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,520 the Steelers. And like, how do you answer the 466 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,160 question, how is this gonna be any different than what happened 467 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,560 last year with The Jets? Like how is any? 468 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,160 How could anything possibly be? Even All right, Roger Rogers is 469 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,240 better than Russell Wilson. His peak was better. 470 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,040 He was better than Russell Wilson last year. 471 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,880 He definitely took all Peter. Aaron Rodgers was definitively 472 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,720 better than Russell Wilson last year. 473 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,760 Like. Literally and I and I think 474 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,440 maybe even a tier difference, not even not even in. 475 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,880 The scene, I think that's true. But The Jets would have traded 476 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,520 straight up for Russell Wilson than what they were getting from 477 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,040 Aaron Rodgers at the end last year. 478 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Rodgers was horrible at certain points last year. 479 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,000 He kind of like pulled it. He pulled out of the tailspin to 480 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,080 close the year. They had that Jaguar spike week. 481 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,920 But like there were there were times I think it was maybe like 482 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:46,120 week 12, week 13, that type of range or is it like he is done 483 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,640 like done it really looks over. He can't move right. 484 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,600 Yeah, that. Hurts so that's a problem, but 485 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,360 Russ, I, I frankly just in my mind, it's like I, I actually 486 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:07,560 don't like either of these guys. But Rogers is just like I, I 487 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,280 think, I think he's like a tier better. 488 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,240 To tap in Theo, make the. Case for I'm I'm I'm Rodgers 489 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,720 over Wilson as well and I think just like as a organization it's 490 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,520 just so much more stability in Pittsburgh. 491 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,600 You know you're coming into a team that makes the playoffs 492 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,000 that has a better offensive line than he dealt with last year in 493 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,040 New York. They're not gonna fire offensive 494 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,320 coordinators mid year. You're not gonna fire the head 495 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,120 coach mid year. It's just a a little bit better 496 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,960 bet for for Aaron Rodgers to end up in Pittsburgh than 497 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,440 potentially last year with New York. 498 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,960 I mean, neither 1 is good, but I would I would take Rogers over 499 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,200 over Wilson right now as well. I'm I'm with Davis on that one. 500 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,720 What do you guys think this offense looks like? 501 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,840 Like Aaron, you know, Arthur Smith obviously has been very 502 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,280 run heavy, but it's also like he's had success with Tannehill, 503 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,800 you know, like doing like, you know, booting him out, kind of 504 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,080 using like half the field reads that type of stuff. 505 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,160 He did like, you know, with Ritter and Mariota way less 506 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,560 successful, but both mobile guys get plus isn't like super 507 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,240 mobile, but you can do the kind of Tannehill stuff and field's 508 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,960 obviously mobile. So it's been a while since we've 509 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,800 seen someone like truly a mobile in this offense and Rogers just 510 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,200 does not like the peak. Rogers would have been really 511 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,520 interesting in this system. But this version of Rogers, like 512 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,080 what do you what do you do you have to do like way more quick 513 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,800 passing stuff. I I don't even know. 514 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,360 I mean, one thing that might happen is that Rogers gets them 515 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:35,240 to bring in Nathaniel Hackett or something shitty like that and 516 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,800 they changed the offense up. But I, I guess I'm wondering 517 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,280 like, is there an instant power struggle here in terms of what 518 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,400 the like whose fingerprints are are on this offense? 519 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,800 I mean, I think 100% you nailed it that it's it's a power 520 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,560 struggle, Arthur Smith tendencies versus what Aaron 521 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,600 Rodgers wants to do. But I think that like the DK, 522 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,280 the amount of money they gave to DK, they they want to focus on 523 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,640 using him on play action. They draft Caleb Johnson last 524 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,560 year. They put a lot into the 525 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,840 offensive line. They had a pretty high play 526 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,760 action rate last year. And I think they'll continue to 527 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,800 do that run and then utilize DK over the top, maybe DK inside 528 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,400 the red zone. I think that's sort of like on 529 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,040 paper what they are, but it's definitely going to be a power 530 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,520 struggle. If it's Arthur Smith previous, 531 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,120 like everything we've known about him now you have this 532 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,360 massive personality, Aaron Rodgers, who's going to call 533 00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:29,240 whatever he wants. They don't really line up with 534 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,520 one another. So there's got, there had to 535 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,120 have been a meeting of the minds or something like that where 536 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:36,720 they were going to go into this one because it seems like a 537 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,480 really weird fit. You brought up like Tannehill 538 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,760 quarterbacks with mobility design run run attempts for your 539 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,640 quarterback, like on paper, like why didn't you just kind of 540 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,400 bring back Justin Fields for this team? 541 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,200 But I don't know. It's it's definitely a weird 542 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,800 one, but you have to lean towards them going with a Rogers 543 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,080 LED offense and Arthur Smith like imposing his will on 544 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,200 Rogers. Matt in the chat said he thinks 545 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,880 Rodgers input would be good for Artie. 546 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,000 I actually agree. In a world in which like Arthur 547 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,720 Smith and Aaron Rodgers can collaborate, it could. 548 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,280 Like they could both. Imagine being in a meeting 549 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,400 between those two minds. Don't see that happening. 550 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,080 I don't see that being a collaborative effort. 551 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,200 They are going to hate each other. 552 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,200 They are going to absolutely hate each other, especially 553 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,200 because like Arthur Smith's MO is like hiding the quarterback 554 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,080 and making the offense still function. 555 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:32,640 And Aaron Rodgers singular goal in life is to be the center of 556 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,080 attention and be the engine of the offense. 557 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,040 How many goal line runs do you think Aaron Rodgers is going to 558 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,440 check out of? Like he is not? 559 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240 There's going to be like not a single pass play called of the 560 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,120 goal line because otherwise they'll never run the ball. 561 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,840 The anti Caleb Johnson argument right there, Pat, like Caleb is 562 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,680 the volume and rushing touchdown guy and now you've got Aaron 563 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,000 Rodgers just checking out to, you know, quick slant to DK 564 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 instead. You darn Darna Washington 565 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,560 catching the touchdown instead. Or whatever. 566 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Theo, who are Who is your most drafted? 567 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Some of your most drafted players? 568 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160 You have any veterans in there? Are you a rookie chaser at 569 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,480 heart? I think I'm AI think I'm a 570 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,520 little bit of both for for most drafted players. 571 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,000 I we talked about in Joku, I have a ton of exposure to him. 572 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,280 Drake London's been a guy that I've been clicking the button on 573 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,560 a lot early. I think he's setting up to have 574 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,040 a really, really strong season. I was getting some Bucky Irving 575 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,240 earlier and I still have some, but I'm not like over the top. 576 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,200 And I'd say for another veteran that I'm drafting a ton of is 577 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Jawan Jennings a little bit later. 578 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,720 I think the market is sort of undervaluing him, undervaluing 579 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,840 his role. And I think all of the San 580 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,160 Francisco pass catchers are all sort of well priced to have 581 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,960 success. And now with the Ricky Purcell 582 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,000 hamstring, I think it's going to become clearer and clearer that 583 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,680 it's Jennings. So Jennings has been sort of one 584 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,840 that I've, I've really, really like to add, not just in best 585 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,680 ball, but also in dynasty and in redraft. 586 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,200 I think he's priced really, really well. 587 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,200 It's hard for me to get like super excited about him. 588 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,800 He's a cap sealing guy, cap sealing Dave Davis. 589 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,960 But I think like a a good cap ceiling, like right now you're 590 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,000 paying sort of a low end wide receiver 3 price tag and the end 591 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,080 of the day he could be wide receiver 20. 592 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,560 Brock Purdy likes him. They used him a lot last year. 593 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,720 He's 27 and it was such a like a a difficult run up for him to 594 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,960 sort of breakthrough and get to the level he was last year. 595 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,560 But he went north of 950 receiving yards last year and 596 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,080 everything's just sort of set up for him to have success this 597 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,760 year. So I'm I'm betting on a lot of 598 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,720 these 49ers like the non Christian McCaffrey 49ers, I 599 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,720 think are easy clicks. I think George Kittle gives you 600 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,080 an edge. Jennings specifically. 601 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,960 George Kittle for sure is is one that I like a lot FFPC and also 602 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,840 on underdog. And there's just such a gap 603 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,200 between him and the big two tight ends, I think. 604 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,000 And he's also like Pat, it's like when you go from Kittle at 605 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,760 at tight end 3 down to La Porta at tight end 4, there's a big 606 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,760 gap in like the seal outcome, so. 607 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,160 I agree and I like Jennings too. Jennings scares me. 608 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,720 I I have like 16% of them though, so I'm not I. 609 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,520 Was going to say I draft the shit out of him and Pierce all 610 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,560 but I'm just like so ready for those to be like 2 of the worst 611 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,040 picks. I'm ready for it to be a rug 612 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,280 pool. Like, you know, the Russell Gage 613 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,040 type of play where it's like, oh, this veteran's breaking out. 614 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,640 Who? Who? 615 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,040 Who was the one? The one who brought up Russell 616 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,200 Gage? Me, I I I think I did. 617 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,560 I, I was it. I don't remember whoever it was. 618 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,600 Cuz we we used Marcus Callaway and then we and then I was like, 619 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,120 yeah, I think it's Russell Gage the. 620 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,040 Specter, The specter of Russell Gage. 621 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,200 I was just like, my God, man. Cuz it's not a because Gage had 622 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,400 a Goodyear that he did change teams, though. 623 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,480 I think that to use a positive example, it reminds me like a 624 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,720 little bit of Robert Woods where, you know, he was like, he 625 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,360 also he changed teams and then became something for the Rams. 626 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,360 But you know, kind of a later career breakout. 627 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,200 But he's coming off a really efficient season in a in an 628 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,480 offense that we know can support, you know, really 629 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,440 efficient play. And like Ayukes coming off 630 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,680 injury, Devo's gone Pierce all like might not be anything 631 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,960 there. I think there's legit upset, not 632 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,600 like to your point, though, not like huge upside, but why stop 633 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,200 wide receiver 20? Couldn't he couldn't he be like 634 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,680 wide receiver 14? You know, wide receiver 15, Like 635 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,320 I think that's live. Yeah, I mean, for sure. 636 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,040 Jennings wide receiver, 14. Yeah, it's not How? 637 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,200 Many how many year How? Many Year 5 wide receiver 638 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,600 breakouts lock it Lock it is the one that you can really point 639 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,560 to. Why do we have to say year five? 640 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,040 He broke out last year. Yeah, last year was a breakout 641 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,320 for him. You have to go with the count of 642 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,840 the. Fact 50 point game and how good 643 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,160 was he really he? Was he was good? 644 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,000 Man. I mean, you're doing the laziest 645 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,320 analysis. So I The thing is, is that you 646 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:10,160 just have like frankly, I do not think there is a good way to 647 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,160 analyze it. I just like for if you are a 648 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,760 numbers based person, if you're a film based person, go whatever 649 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,480 you know, go with God on your Jennings evaluation. 650 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,920 But players like Jennings are so weird, like on the field all the 651 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,800 time but don't get the ball. But then when they get the ball, 652 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,040 it's pretty effective, right? Big difference between yards per 653 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,840 target, yards per route run. Big difference like like set 654 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,000 like something like 70% of his targets his first three years in 655 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,680 league were on 3rd downs or in the red zone, which is like, 656 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,120 it's like crazy. I don't that 70 might be high. 657 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,720 That's not the that's like the the actual number, but it's 658 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,920 really high and then has the crazy ceiling game. 659 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,440 Then like gets cocked at the end of the year by Ricky Pearsall, 660 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,680 who then it's just it's all just very bizarre. 661 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,640 Well, sort of. I mean, he was productive down 662 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,600 the stretch. Ricky Pearsall just had a big 663 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,720 game. For and we're going to clearly 664 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,240 see what they had in Ricky Pearsall. 665 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280 Like one of the meaningful games? 666 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,719 One of the Pearsall big big performances was week 18 and I 667 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,639 think like Davis, you make a good argument because if you're 668 00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,280 anti Jawan Jennings you have to be drafting some personal. 669 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,679 So like I do. It's indefensible to be like 670 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,960 below market on all 340 Niners wide receivers that it's just 671 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,400 like. Crazy. 672 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,520 Think about also indefensible to have 8.3% of every single 673 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,320 player. I have 8 point. 674 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,520 I have 8.7% of each 49ers player. 675 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,719 That's that's impressive. Like last year we had a uke and 676 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,000 debo going and what both were kind of 2-3 turn picks, right? 677 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,639 It's yeah, there's, you know, we've Kittle is more expensive 678 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,920 than last year, but not a ton. And he probably should have gone 679 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,440 here last year. He was, he was undervalued last 680 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,000 year. I also think he's undervalued 681 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,040 this year. But there's like there's some we 682 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,120 can give to Kittle, but we kind of know who Kittle is. 683 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,360 He's not going to just like week after week command a bunch of 684 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,800 targets. He's it's more that when it 685 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,200 comes together for him, he can, he can spike and hopefully that 686 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640 happens more often this year because there's weaker target 687 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,320 competition, but there's, there's a pretty big role here 688 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,760 for the taking. And I tend, I'm playing it 689 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,120 through Jennings more than pure Sol Pure Sol didn't show that 690 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,720 much last year. I know he kind of came on a 691 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,600 little bit down the stretch, but I don't know, I think I think 692 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,840 Jennings, what Jennings did last year, I think it's legitimately 693 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,200 impressive. How about this for for a a 694 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,960 somewhat lazy comp you with Jennings, you're hoping that he 695 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,840 can be like the poor man's Aman raw in that offense as like a 696 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,680 chain mover and target hog. And you're hoping Piersall can 697 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,640 be the poor man's Jameson Williams in that offense where 698 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960 he's getting loose for the the big plays. 699 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,920 And those are coming with enough frequency that you're excited to 700 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,960 have him on your roster. But there's still going to be a 701 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,400 ton of week to week volatility to the production. 702 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,760 That makes sense to me. Yeah, yeah. 703 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,000 I mean, I think the The X Factor would be the Debo Samuel 704 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,160 manufactured touches. We still don't know which way 705 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,640 the the offense is gonna sort of change in that regard. 706 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,280 So that's a lot of like the pro Pierce. 707 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,840 All argument is he absorbs a bunch of those Debo Samuel ones 708 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,560 'cause you're not gonna get the manufactured rush attempts for 709 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,600 Persol. But can they emulate that a 710 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,600 little bit by getting the ball in his hands around the line of 711 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,600 scrimmage? So that sort of the would be the 712 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,120 only X Factor with that sort of parallel Pete. 713 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,200 Yeah, yeah. And you wonder, does that, is it 714 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,440 mean more Christian McCaffrey checkdowns, you know, like 715 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,240 where, yeah, where are, where are those going? 716 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:33,600 But if it is short and intermediary stuff, then you're 717 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,960 back to looking at Kittle and Jennings most most likely based 718 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,520 on just kind of how they've operated. 719 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,240 And I've had this conversation with a couple people, sort of 720 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:44,360 the ultimate Galaxy brain conversation for like the 721 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,640 rational coaching for San Francisco is George Kittle. 722 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,280 What if they, you know, they give him this huge extension? 723 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,640 This has always been a guy that's been like a sub 95 target 724 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,520 player, incredibly efficient. Do they just say this is the 725 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,360 year and we're gonna get more touches for Kittle And we 726 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,520 actually see Kittle get back to like we he's has 130 target 727 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,120 season way, way, way eons ago. Can we get to like 125 targets 728 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,920 for George Kittle? And he just is the one you need 729 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,600 at the tight end position this year. 730 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,840 Maybe. Maybe they go that route as 731 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,680 well. The one thing I'd say with with 732 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,120 Jennings is like, when with players like this, we have to, 733 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,600 we're basically saying we think that this team is now going to 734 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,400 put this player into a bigger role with the other guys gone. 735 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,560 And that's like a little bit of a dangerous sort of situation 736 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,040 because if it doesn't happen, you know, like, and it could 737 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,600 very easily not happen because we're, we're projecting the team 738 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,080 to like redesign the offense a little bit differently. 739 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,680 But I just looked at his, his first 3 targets from last year. 740 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,280 He was at 20% first St. targets per route run, which was 741 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,960 equivalent to Justin Jefferson and and Amin Ross St. 742 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,040 Brown over the last two seasons. Was it below? 743 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,920 AD Mitchell. It's it's a actually I don't 744 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,960 know, you know, but it might be below that. 745 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,800 Let me check. For a while. 746 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,360 And you got to be a minimum threshold on this on this. 747 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,800 I bet you it is. Yeah, it's below. 748 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,280 He was at 23%, but, but Jennings ran like 430 routes. 749 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,480 So it was a pretty big sample. And I think with him, my point 750 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,320 is like we, we actually saw last year him in the role that we're 751 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,920 drafting this year. Like it's not, it feels like a 752 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,280 projection because, you know, Ayuk's not healthy to start the 753 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,640 season probably and Debo's gone. And so we, it feels like we're 754 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,280 penciling him in for something new, but he actually already did 755 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,920 this. I think he's, he's undervalued 756 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,320 by, you know, at least like a round, like he's probably 757 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,880 probably belongs to one in that fifth round group. 758 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,760 And I'll say, oh, go ahead. I was gonna say one one other 759 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,920 player that I've been drafting a little bit more of recently. 760 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,040 I'm trying to get some exposure to Debo Samuel, which feels like 761 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,280 a little bit risky, a little bit gross, but I think the price is 762 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,120 right for him. I think there's a lot of, like, 763 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,440 vibes in Washington that they have high hopes for Debo. 764 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,880 And just stylistically, they had nobody who gave them any sort of 765 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,920 yak ability last year besides like Austin Eckler. 766 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,720 Like the wide receivers had no yards after the catch. 767 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,280 I think Debo's got a pretty strong role there and a lot of 768 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,680 positives with like the beat reporters saying he's in good 769 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,720 shape and I think the team really has plans to get the ball 770 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,000 in his hand. So I think Debo like, again, 771 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,960 it's the sort of player that I'd usually fade, but I think we 772 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,480 want access to guys Jaden Daniels is playing with and 773 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,400 getting a if you draft Jaden Daniels, having access to Debo 774 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,520 Samuel is just so much cheaper where Debo's like wide receiver 775 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,240 39 on underdog, whereas Terry Mclaurin feels like he's being 776 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,240 drafted towards his ceiling. Now he's been off the field a 777 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,680 little bit, but Terry at wide receiver 16 seems super 778 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,960 expensive to me. Maybe he runs pure again, 779 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,760 catches all those touchdown passes and sort of beats that 780 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,800 ADP, But I'd rather take a shot on the much cheaper but very 781 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,200 clear wide receiver 2IN Washington I in Debo. 782 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,120 And then we bring up the like sort of the rushing attempts. 783 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,600 That's an X Factor. We didn't see that last year in 784 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,040 Washington they but now you have Debo. 785 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,400 Do you not use him as a runner? I don't think it makes sense to 786 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,200 have him on that team and not at least get the ball in his hands 787 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,480 a little bit. So I think Debo's a guy who 788 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,680 could beat his ADP oppositionally by like 10 spots 789 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,760 or more in a number of ways. So I I've been getting some 790 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,160 access to him as well. Yeah, I'm, I'm with you on that 791 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,080 take. Theo and I, I haven't been able 792 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,120 to get much other support with me in the Debo Samuel. 793 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:42,960 It's hard. Can I get him on a scale? 794 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,840 Can I get him on a scale? Can I know how much he weighs 795 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,320 the the? Visual like the the visuals look 796 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,600 good. I everybody saw the the picture 797 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,960 at the Super Bowl where he was wearing the Eagles jersey and it 798 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,160 didn't look very good. We sure. 799 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,440 We sure did see the picture. But the pictures now look pretty 800 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,120 good. Debo looks like he's in shape. 801 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,840 And I mean, the beat reporters are all over him in Washington. 802 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,280 It's a heavily covered team. They're all over Debo's role. 803 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,160 The organization seems to really like Debo. 804 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,560 He has a lot of connections in the building. 805 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,640 And I don't know, it's everything just seems sort of 806 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,160 there. And he's so, so, so cheap wide 807 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,760 receiver 39. I mean, it's not a hard Click to 808 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,560 make and then start trying to make an argument for another 809 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,040 Washington receiver that could make a huge impact behind him. 810 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,360 Davis and you. It's really difficult from the 811 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,360 tight ends to the other wide receivers. 812 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,680 So it's sort of AI think it could be a really consolidated 813 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,160 offense to begin with. But I think Debo is going to get 814 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,880 his usual 90 targets and then on top of it, a bunch of those 815 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,600 manufactured rush attempts and they were so efficient last 816 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,000 year, such a good rushing offense, a team that scored a 817 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,960 lot of points. And we love the quarterback. 818 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,600 So why not embrace like the very clear #2 target in that role? 819 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,600 Have you guys seen Speaking of pictures, have you guys seen the 820 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,320 RJ Harvey picture? The the I have. 821 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,520 The quads. Oh yeah. 822 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,640 Another another backups. Yeah, JK, Dobbins backup set. 823 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,920 It just has incredible quads. Just more, more evidence, by the 824 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,560 way, 2025. It's going to keep being the 825 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,000 year the boomer thought we were going to get a fun second round 826 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,440 pick. Nope. 827 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,560 Better learn. Better learn rookie year, Mark 828 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,560 Ingram, buddy. It's that's just a discount, 829 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:31,360 man. 152 rushes. Davis, unless unless you were 830 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,400 slamming in RJ, have some. Fun. 831 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,680 Have a little fun this summer, please. 832 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,040 You got to be excited. I'm I, I haven't been able to 833 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,720 get much. RJ Harvey, I'm I hope Dobbins 834 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,160 sign like can we get him? Where would we get him if he 835 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,240 signs? Is he going to be in the Caleb 836 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:46,440 Johnson range cheaper than that? I think he'll be. 837 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,120 I think he'll be in the mid to late 6th. 838 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,040 I don't. I think the slappies will price 839 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,400 enforce a little. We'll hold the line. 840 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,640 Yeah, we'll hold the line. Davis, what are you going to be 841 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,000 doing at this lake house trip? Like, are you just going to be 842 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,520 in a cabin doing crossword puzzles? 843 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,680 Like I'm actually worried about your ability to let loose at 844 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,560 this point. No, I mean, look, if Harvey ends 845 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:11,400 up being like 67th, like if Harvey is going after Kamara, 846 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,480 it'll just be like. That's he would go after. 847 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,680 I think he he would go after after Kamara if they. 848 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,240 Yeah, we're just, we're just jamming. 849 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:24,000 We're just jamming the button. But I I do want to come back to. 850 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,880 For a suite 8.3%. Dude, 8.9 point, 7% of RJ 851 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,360 Harvey's gonna hit like crack. So this is what I'm having 852 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,840 trouble with with the Commanders. 853 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,280 Mclaurin clearly overdrafted relative to like his projections 854 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,640 relative to his baseline, all that stuff. 855 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,680 Debo, I think is the one that if you're using like projections, 856 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,840 you're like, yeah, the wide receiver 2 historically 857 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,760 beneficial, probably is going to score more touchdowns than the 858 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,960 average wide receiver. Like he just is going to be a 859 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,160 positive touchdown score. But also like if you look at 860 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,040 historical comps for running for a wide receiver who got like 861 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,600 half their production via rushing in their career, has 862 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,280 always done it on efficiency, never done it on volume, and in 863 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,480 fact has gotten worse and high volume seasons whose team gave 864 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,680 up on him. It's like, OK, where's a good 865 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,800 comp? Where's the good? 866 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,440 Where? Where's my you want to know? 867 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,880 The best 1 ended with the player in question punching his 868 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,360 teammate the night before the Super Bowl, which would be Percy 869 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,240 Harvin, who was still OK for the Seahawks but struggled with 870 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:36,000 availability. Well, Cordero Patterson had had 871 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,800 his moments. Patrick. 872 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,520 Not to his third team. Not to his. 873 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,800 Third team that I was kidding. That would be a disaster, 874 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,080 obviously for for where Debo's drafting. 875 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,520 So, so that's where that's where it's just like how cooked is 876 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,880 Debo physic? That's my concern. 877 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,800 My concern is that Debo is is passed at physically. 878 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,880 Yeah, I'm also torn on the Cliff Kingsbury aspect cuz I'm like, 879 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,600 this is one of the few coordinators that I do trust to 880 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,920 try to use Debo like he has been used, but I also I'm like, wait, 881 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,160 I'm getting you're, you're taking away Shanahan and giving 882 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,040 me Cliff Kingsbury and I'm supposed to be cool with that. 883 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,400 It's it's concerning, you know, like, but. 884 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,320 Here's the thing, you're taking away Brock Purdy and you're 885 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,400 getting Jayne Daniels. And like Jayne Daniels has just 886 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,440 been, that's true, a magnet for fantasy points from anyone 887 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,280 surrounding. Yeah, I look, I like Brock 888 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,960 Purdy, but Jayne Daniels is a superstar who was making Diami 889 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,320 Brown and Olamide Zacchaeus like, look like second round 890 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,080 fantasy wide receivers out there. 891 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,480 He was making he. Was making them look like OK 892 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,960 like if you spot started Zacchaeus last year you weren't 893 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,280 like having a great time. Look, I'm just saying if you 894 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,880 consolidate some of that around a real option as opposed to, you 895 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,320 know, spreading it out among four different, you know, wide 896 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,800 receiver three through sixes, I think there could be some 897 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,840 fantasy goodness there. And Pete, you have to also 898 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,000 factor in that the offensive line got much, much better this 899 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,560 past offseason. The Laramie Tunsil acquisition 900 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,920 draft a first round lineman as well, like Jaden Daniels was 901 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,640 able to do that last year with like a very, very average 902 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,120 offensive line. This could be an upper level 903 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,640 offensive line this year. So I don't know. 904 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,560 I Debo like I I thought it was completely done with Debo last 905 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,280 year. Didn't seem like a guy, but this 906 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,680 is a this is like a life preserver bounce back type 907 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,040 landing spot. Just nothing but good vibes 908 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,120 there with Debo. I Davis, I want you to go and 909 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,040 take a look at some of the pictures of him right now. 910 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,320 The the in shape Debo. We'll get you motivated to draft 911 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,560 some. All right, all right. 912 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,840 If I could get I, you know what I need. 913 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,120 I need Debo working out with like Derek Henry, like pushing 914 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,320 tires up a hill shortly. Let me see if I can have these 915 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,800 been like gone viral? Do I have to search hard for 916 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,360 these? I think you can get some Deebo 917 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,000 like look. He looks looks pretty good 918 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,400 there. Doesn't look doesn't look out of 919 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,840 shape there. He does look pretty. 920 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:59,320 Yeah, yeah. Although it's a bit of a baggy 921 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,000 clothing. I was gonna say he looks a 922 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,640 little boxy, that's all. Yeah, it's always been even. 923 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,920 Even even peek Deebo was boxy. Peek Deebo was like, you know 924 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,440 what? Valid. 925 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,160 Running back valid. That's true. 926 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:14,360 I don't know. The face looks fairly full here. 927 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,280 I'm not. I'm not sold yet. 928 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,080 I'll get a little bit more flat. I'm going to. 929 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,520 I'm going to. I'm going to get deep into the 930 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,520 Google images later. I'm going to find some for you. 931 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,280 I'll debo the idea. I'm going to. 932 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,440 By the way, Speaking of the in shape pipe, I was listening to 933 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,920 Greg Rosenthal's pod and he Colleen Wolf came on and was 934 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,280 like talking about what Mark Andrews been doing to like 935 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,600 redeem himself from that drop and like how he's been like like 936 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040 pushing tires in the rain and like doing the rope drills like 937 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,760 non-stop and like jugs machine. And like it really got. 938 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,600 I was like, damn, dude, this guy's like seriously put in the 939 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,840 work. And then they're like, did is 940 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,360 any of that truth? Like, yeah, no, I don't know. 941 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,360 I'm now like a little mentally higher on Mark Andrews for for 942 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,400 that. That's the only silver lining of 943 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,960 having such like a catastrophic singular mistake is it's just 944 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,720 such clear bulletin board fodder. 945 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,640 Like every time you go to work out, it's just like, I have to 946 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,080 avenge this moment as opposed to like I had a so, so season, like 947 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,680 I should probably get better. It's like, no, no, no, the 948 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,840 entire fan base hated you. It still, you know, despises you 949 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,960 because of this drop. What other, what other veterans 950 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,560 have you been willing to take stabs on? 951 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,240 I mean, a couple I put on the thumbnail here, Austin Eckler, 952 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:29,240 Michael Pittman, any of those guys or or other veterans you're 953 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,480 interested in? No, I tried to make a pro 954 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,720 Michael Pittman argument. I think it's really, really hard 955 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:37,320 with Tyler Warren ending up there, even with Daniel Jones 956 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,280 potentially starting. I just think it's moved on to a, 957 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,360 you want access to Josh Downs. But there was no targets 958 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,320 whatsoever for the for the tight ends last year. 959 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,600 Like, I think Kyle and Granson had like 14 catches and that was 960 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,320 the the tight end reception leader in Indianapolis last 961 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,520 year. And no, no Indianapolis tight 962 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,920 end had more than like a 6% target share. 963 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,680 And now you're getting Tyler Warren coming in there. 964 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,920 He's going to get a bunch of manufactured looks. 965 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,680 The target share is definitely going to go way, way up with him 966 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,000 there. So I think my bet would be Josh 967 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,800 Downs in that offense. And then again, if you want to 968 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,840 take shots at at Adnai Mitchell, Alec Pierce in best ball, I 969 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,640 think that makes a little bit of sense rather than taking Michael 970 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,280 Pittman, who seems like, I mean, Michael Pittman had like one 971 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,640 game last year that was better than a wide receiver 20 weekly 972 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,600 finish. So I think I'm out on him 973 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,720 despite what he did in years past. 974 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,600 It's just too many mouths to feed in an offense that I don't 975 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,880 really want too much access to. Eckler's interesting to the sort 976 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,760 of the same argument because I think a lot of people are trying 977 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,760 to talk themselves into Brian Robinson this year as sort of a 978 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,320 structural pick. But Eckler had the same points 979 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,640 per game as Robinson last year. They didn't add a pass catching 980 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,960 back. I like Jacory Kroski Merritt, 981 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,800 but I think his, you know, we're projecting him to potentially be 982 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,880 a dark horse to maybe see some time behind Robinson. 983 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,720 I think Eckler's sort of in his own little role LED Washington 984 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,920 in in yak. He had a strong target chair at 985 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,800 the running back position last year and people are just sort of 986 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,960 fading him a little more than they did last year because he's 987 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,120 old. So I think Eckler is okay to 988 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,720 draft in basketball. I don't think you want to go 989 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:19,520 overboard, but he sort of has his own little mini role in that 990 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,880 team. So yeah, for the thumbnail guys, 991 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,600 I think I'm a little more into Eckler than I am on on Pitman. 992 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,520 Especially I like the idea of there being thumbnail guys. 993 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,240 We have this like small cohort of guys who just watch the 994 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:34,000 episode waiting for the payoff and the thumbnail waiting. 995 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,960 To be. Like, all right, dude. 996 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,480 We got it. We got a sub Eckler out. 997 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,080 We got to put in Joku in. Yeah, that's right. 998 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,080 That's right. I'll, I'll ask Chris to do that. 999 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,920 Pat. I mean, we've actually, Pat, 1000 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,960 you've been on the kind of the bull side of the Pitman thing 1001 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,560 and I have heard the Tyler Warren thing come up as kind of 1002 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,640 a barricade for Pitman. How are how are you thinking 1003 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,920 about that? I just think that Pittman is 1004 00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:58,240 good at what he does. He's limited in what he does. 1005 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:01,320 And so when he was getting drafted last year and I, I think 1006 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,200 Downs is a better receiver. I think Downs is an awesome pick 1007 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,080 right now. I thought Downs is a better 1008 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,560 receiver last year, which is why I basically had 0% Pitman last 1009 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,480 year. I mean, I just thought he was 1010 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,120 egregiously priced as because he was being priced, he has this 1011 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,040 like breakout upside, which he like very clearly did not. 1012 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,600 But now you know you're getting him around like the pick 100. 1013 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:24,200 He's he's very much a best ball pick. 1014 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,120 I don't really have any interest in redraft. 1015 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,160 He's priced like he's his back is still broken. 1016 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,360 Yeah, his price like his back is still broken. 1017 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,120 Now he did limp off the field I guess to close OTAs. 1018 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,280 So we got to figure out if there's anything there. 1019 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:42,480 But assuming he assuming that's like not a serious thing. 1020 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,720 He's he's got a very established role in the offense his entire 1021 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:48,520 career. He's run a ton of routes like 1022 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,400 he's, you know, an outside possession receiver. 1023 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,280 No one else in that offense does what he does, including Warren. 1024 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,000 Obviously Warren's going to play tight end, you know, and split 1025 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,880 out into the slot and do some design stuff. 1026 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,560 But that's not really like Pitman's role necessarily. 1027 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,240 Maybe on some RPO stuff there's more target competition and then 1028 00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:10,520 largely there is more target competition, which isn't great 1029 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,280 for Pitman. But I don't know, I think you're 1030 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,400 getting enough of a discount on a guy who can play like it just 1031 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,320 to me, I'm like, I think Pitman can play. 1032 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,400 I just don't think he's he's not great. 1033 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,160 But if I can take one of those extra, if I can take a Trayvion 1034 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,440 Henderson in the sixth round and take take a receiver pick, you 1035 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,960 know that like I don't need to draft. 1036 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,480 It's kind of a a boring veteran receiver in the 6th or the 7th 1037 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,320 and I can move that pick to a Pitman around 100. 1038 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,480 I kind of like doing that right now. 1039 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,320 He's surrounded by all of the rookies too with Pittman, Pat 1040 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,080 where like I guess structurally your argument makes a lot of 1041 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,920 sense. But if you're chasing upside, 1042 00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:54,880 all those contingent upside guys are there. 1043 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,440 Luther Burden, a Mecca egg Buca is there. 1044 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,560 Trey Harris is right behind him. So he Jaden Jaden Higgins goes 1045 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,040 like a few spots ahead of Pittman. 1046 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,840 I don't know for me if I'm chasing a wide receiver in in 1047 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,520 that range on underdog. Certainly I'm I shouldn't like 1048 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,520 be telling you how to how to draft underdog, but like, you 1049 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,280 know, I want I want access to those to those no wide receivers 1050 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,480 like the spike. I. 1051 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:20,680 Like those guys too? Yeah. 1052 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,160 Yeah, for me it's, it's more about like, OK, so like Jalen 1053 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,200 Waddell's going, you know, in the in the mid 5th. 1054 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,400 So I can do him or an RJ Harvey, right. 1055 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,040 And then I can I can take an upside receiver or, or a 1056 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,800 Pittman. I kind of like the the upside at 1057 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,720 running back a little bit more and then taking a guy like like 1058 00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,040 to me, the upside of a receiver in rounds 5 and 6. 1059 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,320 There is some it's not like a hate of a receiver there. 1060 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,360 We just talked about Jawan Jennings, who's a sixth round 1061 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:52,360 guy, but the the breakout profiles aren't really so much 1062 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,280 in that range. And I if I can, if I can 1063 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,680 actually push back and take a Pitman, it's like my wide 1064 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,920 receiver 4, right? I feel like I'm kind of gaining 1065 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,240 something on the field a little bit. 1066 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,400 If I need upside of receiver, then yeah, give me a Buka or 1067 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,480 Burden. I mean those guys are really 1068 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,960 good picks. Harris and and Higgins are 1069 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,320 interesting too. Well, in the same dynamic 1070 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,880 happens in that what that like seventh round range, right? 1071 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,240 Where it's like if you are behind that wide receiver, 1072 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,760 Jacoby Myers and Kalil Shakur are there for you. 1073 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,640 And if you're loaded, you've got four. 1074 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,680 It's like, no, no, give me Matthew Golden, give me Jane 1075 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,520 Reed. Like let me take that, that cut. 1076 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:29,600 And then with the Pitman, like Theo said, there are teams where 1077 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,480 you have 5 wide receivers there and it's like, yeah, I'm going 1078 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,160 to take Trey Harris or or Jane Higgins instead. 1079 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,400 I'm interested to see, you know, with this Anthony Richardson 1080 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,960 news, just how high up Josh Downs. 1081 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,240 Could run. They're all going to go. 1082 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:43,600 They're all going to go up, though. 1083 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,720 Warren's going to go up. They're all going up. 1084 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,400 The Downs one's interesting, though, like the Downs one, like 1085 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,320 he's been so, so, so cheap. But even if he rises up a little 1086 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,800 bit, he's still I think a pretty easy click. 1087 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,280 Comparing him to guys like injured Brandon Iuke, that 1088 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,040 Darnell Mooney, Cooper Cup like Downs now, I think should be 1089 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,560 going where the Green Bay wide receivers are going, maybe a 1090 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,760 little bit higher than that. Yeah, I mean, that's where he 1091 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,520 should have been going really the whole time. 1092 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,240 I think he's he's an awesome pick. 1093 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,080 This dude is really good. He's really good. 1094 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,200 And think about like, we got to remember this right, in case 1095 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,800 this shoulder injury doesn't turn out to be anything and 1096 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,480 we're back to where we thought we were a couple days ago, but 1097 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,080 being like true competition and training camp. 1098 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,160 I think we've actually been marked safe from that. 1099 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,680 OK. But my point is if if we get 1100 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,240 news that Daniel Jones is going to be a guy's quarterback and 1101 00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:45,720 we're like, oh man, to the moon. Like that, that's so you're 1102 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,440 right, too low on it. So dumb the. 1103 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,520 First, the only bump you should get is the like the stacking 1104 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,800 confidence bump that we were just describing with like the 1105 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,280 Steelers guys, right or? Just a pass. 1106 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,880 A pass rate bump did. Daniel Jones will project for 1107 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,200 like two or three more passes per game than Richardson was. 1108 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,400 I mean, if based on this like don't we shouldn't the Anthony 1109 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,560 Richardson and Daniel Jones ADP just essentially outright flip 1110 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,960 Daniel Jones 213, Anthony Richardson 175. 1111 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,360 I mean the quote from Stiken is don't. 1112 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:22,800 Think Jones should go that high because Jones is set up in a 1113 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,360 Justin Fields esque situation. I think where like, they're 1114 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,320 probably still going to want to see unless it's like really bad, 1115 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,520 like he's out for the year, like he gets surgery, then, you know, 1116 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,240 obviously that's different. But they're probably going to 1117 00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:39,560 want to see Richardson at some point this year. 1118 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,480 So if Jones starts the season, he's getting benched, like most, 1119 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,440 he's just not very good, you know, So he's probably going to 1120 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,520 get benched and in part because they'll want to see if 1121 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,560 Richardson has anything left, you know, or has improved at all 1122 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,320 is what I mean. So I don't know, I would, I 1123 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,560 would take Jones a little a little later than Richardson 1124 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,400 because he doesn't have quite the same weekly upset profile. 1125 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,280 I mean, I just am going to rank them both as round 18 guys and 1126 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,440 and probably not have either one of them be a huge portion of My 1127 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,200 Portfolio at this point. Well, I do think like I've been 1128 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,320 taking Daniel Jones, like in the, I think all the Super Flex 1129 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,400 drafts I've done on Underdog, I've taken Daniel Jones because 1130 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,680 I've just liked his price relative to the other 1131 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,680 quarterbacks there. I mean, Theo, have you been 1132 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,080 picking a fighter as far as the the Indianapolis QB when you 1133 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,320 start going down that path? In Best ball Mania, I definitely 1134 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,600 have more Anthony Richardson, but like you in the puppy but 1135 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,720 Superflex, I've actually double tapped the two of them in a few 1136 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,200 builds just to kind of see what happens and if they could each 1137 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,280 have some kind of usable weeks. They're both kind of priced 1138 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,400 right for that double tap. I it's a kind of a weird thing 1139 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,080 to take two quarterbacks from the same team, but it could be 1140 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,440 split down the middle in terms of starts. 1141 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,640 Like we don't know which way this situation is going to go, 1142 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:03,480 whether Daniel Jones starts the year they bring in Richardson, 1143 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,720 maybe he falters, maybe he re injuries the shoulder and Jones 1144 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,120 comes back in. So I think having exposure to 1145 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,120 sort of both of them, especially in the Super flex format makes 1146 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,680 sense. I do think in like taking like 1147 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,760 to, to Pat's argument of taking 3 quarterbacks, if I'm doing a 1148 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,920 three quarterback build, having some access to Anthony 1149 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,960 Richardson where he can really take over a game and have a 1150 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,960 spike week with his rushing ability, I think that makes 1151 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,800 sense. Just having some exposure there. 1152 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,800 But in the, the Superflex one, I, I definitely like having some 1153 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,360 Jones as well. So sort of all over the place on 1154 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,960 this quarterback situation, but I don't think there's any 1155 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,560 clarity in Indianapolis. And now, like Davis said, if 1156 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,680 Richardson's going to miss a lot of time, it definitely gives 1157 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,040 Jones sort of the leg up to start game one. 1158 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,080 Oh, but he's definitely starting Week 1. 1159 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,400 You would think. You would think. 1160 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,520 The funny thing is that like that might be bad. 1161 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,360 People are saying there's no chance a rich leads him to the 1162 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,200 playoffs. There's no chance he started my 1163 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,680 weeks 15 through 16. I would say all the same thing 1164 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,600 for Jones. Like Jones is not leading this 1165 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,120 team to the playoffs. Jones is. 1166 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,840 If he starts week 1 is unlikely to hold the job all season. 1167 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,760 Like there's there's almost you almost want the guy who comes in 1168 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,560 mid season or something. But then it's tricky because 1169 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,360 Richardson's bad enough to get benched. 1170 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,840 If he takes over in mid season, he it could be Jones, 1171 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,400 Richardson, Jones. So it's just a very 1172 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:28,000 unpredictable situation ultimately for Downs and Pittman 1173 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,000 and and Warren and all these guys like you're going to see 1174 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,520 some Jones. So if if Jones makes you excited 1175 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,040 to draft Josh Downs, like you'll get some Jones. 1176 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,600 I don't know which weeks, but it's it's looking increasingly 1177 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,560 likely week 1 and then maybe by the end of the season you'll get 1178 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,600 them again. Yeah, that's kind of been my 1179 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,240 read is that it's not going to be a clean hand off like the 1180 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,160 Steelers situation last year. We're going to get like a game 1181 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,280 of hot potato going and you're just hoping that the one who 1182 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,000 placed your chips on is starting 15 through 17. 1183 00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,040 And ideally like even then you could probably see a hand off 1184 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,000 between. That would be so rough. 1185 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,360 Riley Leonard in the fantasy playoffs. 1186 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,080 It'll be Riley Leonard Weeks 15 through 17, when they're 1187 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,280 completely eliminated. Oh God, we can't handle that. 1188 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,840 That is, that is like a realistic possibility, though. 1189 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,400 It's a rookie. See. 1190 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,320 What you got out of Riley? See what you got. 1191 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,240 Yeah, because it could be an interim head coach. 1192 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,280 This is the other thing. So it's interim head coach 1193 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,720 checking out a rookie. Like it could just be really 1194 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,240 gross. Howard, the range of outcomes is 1195 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,120 pretty dire. It's. 1196 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,920 Pretty. It's pretty tired. 1197 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,600 Yeah, it's. Not how are you playing you we 1198 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:35,240 we touched on Terry Theo how are you playing that kind of divide 1199 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,640 for round three round four wide receivers as far as vets versus 1200 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,080 rookies 'cause you kind of have the like Tyree kill Devante 1201 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,600 Adams Mike Evans cohort going up against you know the JSN uh oh 1202 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,520 Devante Adams too obviously JSN Rashi Rice, if you're worthy tet 1203 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,760 like are you choosing one side there I'm. 1204 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,720 I'm usually gravitating towards the young guys in that argument, 1205 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,120 but I love Devante Adams this year as well. 1206 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,440 I think Adams is just set up to have a really strong season we 1207 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,560 it's the first. Like fading Devante just feels 1208 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,480 wrong. Like I'm out on Tyree kill at 1209 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,080 that ATP. I was going to ask you about 1210 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,520 Tyree kill. Yeah, Tyree kill. 1211 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,680 I've I've gone back and forth on I did. 1212 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:20,040 I did a top 50 over at fantasy points and it's become a top 1213 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,440 100. But I do write ups in there and 1214 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,920 I kept like pushing Tyreek Hill further and further down. 1215 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:30,360 He's 45 in my top 50, so I would have no access to him in FFPC or 1216 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,560 Underdog. If I'm going with my own 1217 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,400 rankings, it's just hard to bet on Tyreek Hill. 1218 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,000 The points per game dropped over 10 points per game and the 1219 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,400 target share dropped over 10%. It's crazy. 1220 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,240 And he's 31 years old and we have question marks about the 1221 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,240 offense. So I'm out on him at that price 1222 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,360 tag. JSN should be going ahead of 1223 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,040 Tyreek Hill in every single draft. 1224 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,120 I'm I really like JSN where he's going. 1225 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,320 I agree with Davis on the enthusiasm for Rashi Rice as 1226 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,920 well. And I've sort of been one where 1227 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,920 I've sort of backed up save the pros Xavier worthy arguments all 1228 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,480 season long. So I guess I like all those 1229 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,560 guys. So but for me with the veterans, 1230 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,840 it's definitely Devante Adams head and shoulders above the 1231 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,640 other vets in that range. Adams was over 17 points per 1232 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:20,080 game last year on 2 bottom 8 offenses and I know he would 1233 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,640 benefited from being hyper targeted by Aaron Rodgers. 1234 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,200 But now he's on what I think could be a really, really good 1235 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,240 offense. And we saw the target 1236 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,720 consolidation between cup and the KUA last year where the two 1237 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,680 of them had a combined target chair that was like really 1238 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,800 usable. And I don't see any reason why 1239 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,640 we shouldn't be treating Devante Adams sort of like we were those 1240 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,680 two guys last year. Like Adams I think should be 1241 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,240 going a little bit higher in drafts. 1242 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:49,160 I don't see any reason why he can't give you 16 and a half, 17 1243 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,240 points per game again, even if Puka smashes. 1244 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,880 And in our projections at fantasy points, we have Devante 1245 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,720 Adams finishing as a top ten wide receiver and we have 1246 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,560 Kukunakuwa as the wide receiver too. 1247 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,880 So we're really bullish on those two guys right now. 1248 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,840 Yeah, I've I've been kind of surprised just with how much 1249 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,040 ambiguity and what a flat tier that kind of like round two 1250 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,720 through all of round three wide receivers is that Devante hasn't 1251 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,120 made that push up that we did with Cooper Cup last year where 1252 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,920 we just got like all in on the entire offense. 1253 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,280 Like these two are going to hum and coexist together. 1254 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,080 But like Devante, Adams has just stayed pretty flat. 1255 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,560 Yeah, it's weird. And I, I know he's old. 1256 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,080 He's like super old. That's it's, it's literally all 1257 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:33,800 it is, man. Yeah. 1258 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,720 It's the it's the ageism. He's going to in in week 17. 1259 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,920 He's going to be 33. I'm 33 man, you know how hard 1260 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:40,760 it. Is to get out. 1261 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:45,760 Of bed in December, I mean. Cooper Cooper Cup was I mean he 1262 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,560 turns 32. Wow, I just remembered Cooper 1263 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:48,640 Cup and I have the same birthday. 1264 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,360 Cooper Cup was 31 at this point last year and people had no. 1265 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,560 Problem. Yeah, and guess what? 1266 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,840 The Cooper Cup faders were proven correct by unanimous 1267 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,040 decision. The Cooper. 1268 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:02,040 Cup Adams is 32, though, and he turns 33 in December, so by the 1269 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,760 end of the season he. Will be 33. 1270 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,360 Yeah, it's not so. I mean, Theo, obviously you're 1271 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,920 right because the future is unknowable, but like if if if, 1272 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,440 if you just if you told me Devonte Adams stays healthy and 1273 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,400 and plays at the same skill level that he exhibited for The 1274 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,240 Jets last season. I mean, I'd probably rank him 1275 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,200 wider Super 12, I'd probably take him ahead of T. 1276 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,840 But each year that a player ascends into their 30's, the 1277 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:34,000 more likely it is that they are. Oh yeah, it's a terrible, it's a 1278 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,600 terrible bet to make on a 33 year old. 1279 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,000 It's, well, it's not actually a wide receiver. 1280 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,120 It's not I I was I was looking at this the other day because I 1281 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,400 was arguing with someone about Derrick Henry and I was running 1282 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:48,400 the filters for at running back. It's like absurd like Ladania. 1283 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,720 It is. It's just kind of neither here 1284 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,800 nor there, but we're all we're chatting ball. 1285 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,960 Ladanian Tomlinson went from 1900 yards and 18 touchdowns to 1286 01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,520 the next season having 1100 yards and eight touchdowns while 1287 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,920 not being injured. Well, just like how and and 1288 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:07,240 Phillip Rivers led the NFL in completion percentage, YPA and 1289 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,280 passing touchdowns. So it wasn't it wasn't that the 1290 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,120 offense created. It just leaves you. 1291 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,360 But at wide receiver, it just, I think because wide receiver is 1292 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,240 so technical to begin with that it's actually you. 1293 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,920 You're like the Larry Fitzgerald example, right? 1294 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,080 Is that Larry Fitzgerald was still churning out four 1295 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,320 reception games at 38 or whatever. 1296 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:29,880 Like you can kind of just get by. 1297 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,000 Yeah, it's, it's sort of two things. 1298 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,320 Because every in dynasty there's all this has been like, it's 1299 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,520 kind of a trope of dynasty where every wide receiver is going to 1300 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,400 age well. Like, there's always like this 1301 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,400 guy's game, he's going to age so well and it's like. 1302 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,800 I think the haters were right. Tyreek is not going to age well. 1303 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:49,880 Yeah, I want to talk more about him in a second, but the, you 1304 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,240 know, we always say this about like every receiver and then a 1305 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,840 lot of them just crater like a lot of them. 1306 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,960 And then some guys go really long, like, you know, Jerry Rice 1307 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,000 was productive into his 40s. So it's it's, it's the black 1308 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,320 marble thing. It's like Adams is either 1309 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,320 probably going to be pretty close to what he was last year 1310 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,360 or a disaster. I do think he's cheap enough 1311 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,080 where he's like a pretty decent pick at the end of the third 1312 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,640 early 4th. Like that's if he's at the 2 1313 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,120 three turn. I I really don't think I would 1314 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,680 have much at all. But I do think he's cheap enough 1315 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,920 to where, you know, he kind of makes sense in the same way that 1316 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,280 I'm taking some Mike Evans. You know, Mike Evans is a guy 1317 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,240 that I'm like not that excited about. 1318 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,840 He's also old. One of these guys. 1319 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,680 You would say his game probably isn't going to age well because 1320 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:35,840 it's kind of aging well. And if if he's available in the 1321 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,520 early 4th, then sure, Tyreek is 1. 1322 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,640 Where? Sorry, go ahead. 1323 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,640 No, no, I want to hear you on Tyree. 1324 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,000 I I guess I was just going to say it. 1325 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,120 It's like it's really hard for, I think our brains as like 1326 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,760 upside chasers to be content with taking a late third round 1327 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,200 pick. Who's going to deliver late 1328 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,160 third round production and not have the chance to be a first 1329 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,280 round pick next year? Like if a guy doesn't have the 1330 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,880 chance to be a first round pick next year like that kills us to 1331 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,760 have to select them. It's tough too when they have 1332 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,840 this Age Concern because they're like, well, I'm going to stack 1333 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,000 wins. You know, maybe I'm not getting 1334 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,720 this, you know, amazing upside play, but but this is a 1335 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,920 productive receiver that I'm that I'm adding here. 1336 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,960 But it's like, is it because he's really old? 1337 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,160 So he might not be So yeah, but it I'm very price conscious with 1338 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,680 these guys. But I both I think they're both 1339 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,720 fine. Evans and Adams. 1340 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,520 The Tyreek one is 1 where like he was at one point kind of 1341 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,680 moving up to the more like the two three turn and now he's like 1342 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,520 starting to fall a little bit it seems, which I'm kind of 1343 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,680 terrified by because I I don't want to be fading Tyreke 1344 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,560 actually, if he's like a late third round pick. 1345 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,200 I think he's pretty interesting at that price, to be honest. 1346 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:47,480 I mean, like the fall stuff Kyle Dvorchek has cited like just 1347 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,920 some crazy stuff with like how ridiculous his fall off has been 1348 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,200 in in yards per hour and everything. 1349 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,680 But he still had 1.75 yards per hour run last year, which is 1350 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,880 like honestly pretty close to Jackson Smith and Jigba was at 1351 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,640 1.81. And then I'm like, wait, so I 1352 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:08,440 don't like that he's two seasons removed from from 3.72 yards per 1353 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,160 outrun, one of the most insanely efficient seasons ever. 1354 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,920 That's bad. It feels like it should be good. 1355 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,640 You know he he is. He is 31, but he's actually 1356 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,120 younger than Adams. And we know that this is an 1357 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,920 offense that had two out with a concussion for a big chunk. 1358 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,479 We had a really weird offensive design where they're getting the 1359 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,279 ball out super quickly to Jono and a Chan for, you know, a big 1360 01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:33,760 portion of the back half of the season. 1361 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,920 They haven't really addressed the offensive line. 1362 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,279 So maybe that's what we're dealing with again. 1363 01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:41,840 But it's not, I guess I don't fully buy that Like Tyreke fell 1364 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,479 off in terms of what he's able to do it. 1365 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,000 To me, it felt like an offense that kind of crumbled. 1366 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,399 And it's an offense that's like a little bit of a Rube Goldberg 1367 01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:53,200 machine where, you know, if it's if everything's not working, 1368 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,600 then nothing's working. Mike McDaniel kind of gets 1369 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,399 exposed every year. I. 1370 01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:59,760 Think I need to. I think I need to file copyright 1371 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,680 infringement. I'm the only one who's allowed 1372 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,080 to compare NFL play calling to Rube Goldberg's. 1373 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,800 That was I do a positive view that I I should be allowed. 1374 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,840 You know what? We'll allow it. 1375 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,680 Conjection overruled. That was the quickest lawsuit of 1376 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,359 all time. Yeah, I yeah. 1377 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:20,000 But I think I think it could like you kind of need the 1378 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,880 offense to be at least somewhat humming again for Tyree to get 1379 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,560 back to, to what he was doing. I mean, you don't even need him 1380 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,279 to get back to what he's doing two years ago, because if he 1381 01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:30,760 does that, then he's like the guy, right? 1382 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,279 You just need him to not be as bad as he was last year. 1383 01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:36,200 I I think that I think he could kind of have a bit of a bounce 1384 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,240 back in him as part of the Dolphins just kind of looking a 1385 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:43,520 little bit better overall. It makes me think too like and I 1386 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,479 I have not done this yet because tyree kill is such a hard click 1387 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,840 but a Chan and tyreek together seem like such a good 1388 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,080 correlated. That's that's the perfect 1389 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,040 correlated bet. Yeah, where you're getting 1390 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,960 essentially what you're getting a round discount on a Chan and 1391 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,840 like a two round discount on where we drafted Tyree Kill 1392 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,280 previously. And if you are saying like, hey, 1393 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,200 this was a symptom of the offense and they can get back to 1394 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,360 what they did two years ago, like I, I, I need to do that a 1395 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,640 little bit more in drafts because I like that seems like a 1396 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,040 good way to play that that bounce back. 1397 01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:18,440 All right, we can continue this exercise, but I I've been 1398 01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:22,560 meaning to bring this up. I want to give Theo I just just 1399 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,520 Jameson Williams in out below market, above market. 1400 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,800 I'm I'm in and I think I'm above market on Jameson Williams. 1401 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,840 I think Jameson Williams is a really good bet to make this 1402 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,800 year. I'm going to give Pat a chance 1403 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,560 to repent and and wipe away. I'm going to offer you 1404 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,200 absolution, Karin. So two things. 1405 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,120 First being, are you aware that Jameson Williams changed his 1406 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,440 number to #1? That's pretty good. 1407 01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:47,120 Yeah. OK. 1408 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,960 Come on. That's also Were you aware that 1409 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,840 Aman Rasain Brown had an offseason knee procedure? 1410 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,920 No, I didn't realize that. It literally just came out today 1411 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,200 because obviously all the Lions beat writers were too busy 1412 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,360 reporting on, you know, schedule leaks and uniforms and, you 1413 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,000 know, they were really busy, so they neglected. 1414 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,280 What was the new procedure? I'm sure it was just like a 1415 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,000 clean up like a yeah, yeah, you know, whatever these guys do I 1416 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,320 I'm going to offer you absolution right now and we will 1417 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:19,080 welcome you into Team J MO if if you but but this is your last 1418 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,800 chance, right? This is it. 1419 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,920 I'm not going to let you change your mind in the future. 1420 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:23,560 You got. It. 1421 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,120 Yeah, you got it. I'm offering you right now. 1422 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:31,440 Yeah, I was it was it it maybe it was ESPN tweeted out like 1423 01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:36,600 they did the, you know, from weeks 10 through whatever 1424 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:41,080 Jameson Williams was the widest 22 last year. 1425 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,240 Yeah, I was like 22. That's not nearly high enough 1426 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,360 for a stat like that. No, no. 1427 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:50,120 Man, it's it's not. I'm just I'm the market. 1428 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,440 I get it. I get why the market thinks this 1429 01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:55,320 guy's awesome because when you when you dream on like the 99 1430 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,120 percentile outcome for this guy, it's. 1431 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,160 You know what it's. Ripping my face off. 1432 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,080 It's, it's Tyreke. It's it's it's, it's one of 1433 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:05,800 those crazy early Tyreke seasons. 1434 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,200 It's one of those like the and I I agree it's in the range of 1435 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,080 outcomes. I just don't think it happens 1436 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:16,200 enough times for this price and like largely he's that he's 1437 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,160 Jared Goff's number two option and Jared Goff's deep threat 1438 01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:25,920 with the new OC and an an offense that he's been pretty 1439 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,400 dependent on a dominant offensive line whose center just 1440 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,800 retired like it's expensive. It's we've never seen. 1441 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,960 We have never seen what we're asking him to do. 1442 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,520 It's all projection. It's, you know, and it's. 1443 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,320 It's not really. Supported by projection like 1444 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,560 it's it's a, it's a talent based projection argument that I think 1445 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,640 I understand. You know why people are making 1446 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:53,080 it and I'm terrified genuinely about what he could do, but I 1447 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,000 just don't think it's a very good bet at price. 1448 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,880 All right, not absolved. So we know where Karain is gonna 1449 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,000 be going after season. Peter, will you? 1450 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,240 I just put this in the private chat. 1451 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,840 Will you just, well, you just shared this. 1452 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:04,960 Did you say? I'm going to hell. 1453 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:06,800 I am. Going that I'm going to. 1454 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,840 Hell, with Pat I have less than 1%. 1455 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,320 A lot of positive coach speak too. 1456 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,040 David, you're getting the OC. The offensive coordinator is a 1457 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,520 hype man for Jameson. You know, Dan Campbell is a hype 1458 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,120 man for Jameson. Like they they Detroit is really 1459 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,080 betting on him. And then we also factor in PAT 1460 01:13:22,440 --> 01:13:26,400 teams were coming and calling, trying to trade for him during 1461 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,520 the. NFL I know it could. 1462 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,040 Have been a massive haul from Detroit. 1463 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,040 They could have. They could have traded Jameson 1464 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,000 Williams and potentially ended up with a with a first round 1465 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,720 pick, it sounds like from some of these teams. 1466 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,080 So I don't know. Lots of like. 1467 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,640 Lots of like. No, no news on this tweet. 1468 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,680 It's just very funny to me. It's just insanely funny that 1469 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,840 Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell had a press 1470 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,320 conference and said, dude, you know who looks really good? 1471 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,440 Jameer Gibbs and Jameson Williams. 1472 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:57,840 Sick. That Aiden Hutchinson guy is 1473 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,560 going to be a big member of our that Aiden Hutchinson. 1474 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,520 Guy is going to be a big part of what we're doing. 1475 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was the other one here. 1476 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,600 Let me see if I can pull it up. This is this is the quote that's 1477 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,840 getting everybody excited, too. Dan Campbell said the sky is the 1478 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,200 limit for James Williams. We expect him to have a huge 1479 01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:17,680 season. It's. 1480 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,800 Starting to feel a little Calvin Ridley esque that's I'm just. 1481 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,520 I'm just going to put that, Oh no, it's. 1482 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,640 Starting to feel a little Calvin Ridley esque. 1483 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,400 Davis gets that reference as someone who got caught hook, 1484 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,560 line and sinker by that propaganda. 1485 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,720 Yeah, but to to Davis's argument, like the Ridley, 1486 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,960 Ridley steamed up so, so high. Jameson is wide receiver 26 1487 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,160 right now. So even if he steams up a little 1488 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,680 bit, like I remember when Ridley was nearly touching the first 1489 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,360 round and in some of those NFFC drafts, I believe he creeped it 1490 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,360 creeped to like the 1-2 turn in some of those drafts. 1491 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,320 With Jameson, he's always going to get, unless this Aman Ross 1492 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,600 St. Brown like knee thing becomes a 1493 01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,160 problem, he's always going to be treated like very much like a 1494 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,440 wide receiver 2. And then you've also got the 1495 01:15:02,440 --> 01:15:06,320 same Laporta factor where Laporta sort of creeps in there. 1496 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,800 He's going to stay right around tight end 4. 1497 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,840 So you're betting on multiple pass catchers in this offense. 1498 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,560 So Jameson could steam up a little bit, but I don't think 1499 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,480 he's a guy that's going to steam past wide receiver 20IN ADP 1500 01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:21,800 Davis, like wide receiver 18. If the hype is insane, it's 1501 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,840 never going to reach a level where you're having to make such 1502 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,280 a massive bet on Jameson that it's going to really, really 1503 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,800 burn you if he did like exactly what he did last year. 1504 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,840 Well how about this though The what? 1505 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,400 What's his ADP in season long stuff? 1506 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,160 And do you view him differently in non in non basketball? 1507 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,920 Let me pull up the the main event. 1508 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,080 So main events right now he's going to right in the sixth 1509 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:53,120 round, which seems, that seems really, really good. 1510 01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:55,240 Really, really good. Yeah, I'm into. 1511 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,760 That you get off the platform of the slappies and you don't have 1512 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,600 to play the slap premium. Yeah, it just gets, it just gets 1513 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:03,920 way. It just gets way better. 1514 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,320 But am I not allowed to object to the slap premium? 1515 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,640 No, I should be able to you are you? 1516 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,520 Are you're going to hell because you're going? 1517 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,040 To hell. Object all you want in hell. 1518 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,520 You know you're allowed to sin. God doesn't stop you from 1519 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:17,720 sinning. It's just what happens. 1520 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,360 Later, let's just sin you have free will. 1521 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,040 I'll tell you what, that sort of coach speak actually doesn't do 1522 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,320 anything for me. Like, oh, this guy's a freak. 1523 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:28,680 He's the fastest man in the world. 1524 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,760 What I'd love is I'd love for this new offense. 1525 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,800 He's a coordinator be like, yeah, he's been really good as a 1526 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,360 deep threat, but we'd like really have been working on 1527 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,600 getting him more involved like on a crossers and throwing in 1528 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:43,160 the screen that that I would be like, I'm too low on him, right? 1529 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,600 Now that's how I lose. That's how I lose because 1530 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,120 they're like we, he's been used as a vertical threat for us, 1531 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,680 which is awesome. But that's why we drafted Isaac 1532 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,880 Tesla because there's no other reason to draft Isaac Tesla. 1533 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,680 So hopefully that's why. And then you, we're going to use 1534 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,440 him. We're studying the way the Jags 1535 01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:03,680 use Brian Thomas and we're going to, we're going to use Jameson 1536 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,720 more like that. We're going to get him deep, but 1537 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,040 we're going to get him, you know, we're moving around the 1538 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,600 formation. Would that would that convert 1539 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:10,800 you? Would that? 1540 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,640 That would that would convert me to an extent. 1541 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,440 The problem is that he would rise on that news. 1542 01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:19,640 So I think I'd still be behind, but I would definitely raise him 1543 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,600 on something like that. Like if you're if you're talking 1544 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,040 specifically about like his role being different, because that's 1545 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,520 that's The thing is that like Aminra commands such a huge 1546 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,520 share of the targets in this offense has such like a 1547 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,600 connection with Goth. I mean, Goth wants an Amira. 1548 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,200 Like that is his style of receiver, right? 1549 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,760 He can get the ball out quickly, he gets open. 1550 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,920 It's perfect. He has to wait a little bit 1551 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,120 longer for for Jameson Williams, unless they're installing him in 1552 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,160 a in a role that's more suitable to the way golf likes to play, 1553 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,080 which would fundamentally kind of change the type of bet that 1554 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:59,960 Jameson Williams is. I have a hard time thinking that 1555 01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:03,760 that is going to happen, right? If I have to pay for it, if 1556 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,520 you're telling me like that's going to happen. 1557 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:10,240 And so pay for that happening. I'm like, how about I don't, how 1558 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,760 about I find other guys where it's not priced in or? 1559 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,120 Something about someone like Jameson Williams, I'm wondering. 1560 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,360 I'm wondering if it doesn't pay to think about a guy who plays 1561 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:23,400 that way. Listen, I again, I am scared. 1562 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,640 I just want everyone to know how scared I am that this could go 1563 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,920 bad for me. He he really does have like an 1564 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,880 extremely high, like, you know, perfect outcome type of ceiling, 1565 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,560 because I think that stuff is in play. 1566 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:38,080 It's not like I think it's he's, he's not live to have a, a 1567 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,480 better, more defined, more more versatile role. 1568 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,200 Well in like these who are The Who are some of the wide 1569 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,600 receivers going around him in in round six of the the mains? 1570 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,960 Yeah, So what I mean, you're seeing, you're seeing now and I 1571 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,760 and I don't think this will be the case, but it's sort of a 1572 01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,360 Jameson Williams versus a Chris Godwin, a Chris Alave. 1573 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,280 I mean, it's an it's an easy click and sort of to the to the 1574 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:09,280 argument that he goes ahead of like the Pickens Waddles, but 1575 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,640 he's going like well behind a guy like a Zay Flowers. 1576 01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,080 Like I would rather take the chance on a Jameson Williams 1577 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,520 than than like a Zay Flowers a player where we have like sort 1578 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,400 of a a clear defined role for what he is in the offense. 1579 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:28,160 And Pat you talk about like Jameson as a better best ball 1580 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,200 pick than managed. I don't know. 1581 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:31,840 I think no. I think he's a better managed. 1582 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,200 Pick. Oh, then I misunderstood you. 1583 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,080 Yeah, he managed to stick him in the flex in FFPC. 1584 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,920 Stick him in the wide receiver. 3IN NFFC and you can deal with 1585 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,520 the the ups and downs, but you could potentially get 3 weeks in 1586 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,960 a row where he's like 75 points in for, for three weeks in a 1587 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,640 row. Yeah. 1588 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,720 I mean, I, I think I'm, I'm very much in on this. 1589 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,840 I think the seasons where Jameson hits and and he is like 1590 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,400 ripping my face off. There's no question that you're 1591 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,600 starting him like he's because the role is different, right Or 1592 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,000 or Amanrat misses time. He's not right with the knee. 1593 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,080 Like he's he. He has that in him to just be 1594 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,160 like a clear cut league winner smash. 1595 01:20:09,480 --> 01:20:11,240 Doesn't really matter what you paid for them. 1596 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,640 You're just like super psyched to have Jameson Williams. 1597 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,000 That to me is more of the redraft archetype. 1598 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,880 You know where it's like I'm missing sometimes when I when I 1599 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,600 go for players like that, But So what? 1600 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,160 I'm stacking up enough huge wins and then I can backfill the 1601 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,040 production on my misses in best ball. 1602 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,320 I'm thinking more about trying to stack wins in those with 1603 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,160 those early picks. So a guy like Zay Flowers, I 1604 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,640 find, you know, pretty appealing when he's in the mid to late 1605 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,280 5th. Like I'm like, he's the number 1606 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,440 one receiver on the Ravens and the the guy he was competing 1607 01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:42,600 with the targets at tight end is probably falling off. 1608 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,960 This is pretty sweet. Maybe I even have Lamar, you 1609 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,680 know, so it's it's a little different for me in in 1610 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,840 basketball when I think about the downside for Williams, 1611 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,040 because his downside is just like what he was last year. 1612 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,640 If Williams is what he was last year, at this price, you lose 1613 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,960 and that that to me is kind of scary you. 1614 01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:03,080 Don't lose. You don't. 1615 01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:05,400 Lose even bet if he if he does what he did last. 1616 01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:07,120 I don't think so. He's like, fine. 1617 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,040 But you can get buried by the other picks going around him 1618 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,640 that. If they that hey man. 1619 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:13,800 That's not an argument you're talking. 1620 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,040 That's what it is. Trying to keep my head above 1621 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,200 water here. I, I don't mean you lose at the 1622 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,840 sixth round price. I mean I'm talking on underdog. 1623 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,800 Most of my reservation is really on underdog and that's where I 1624 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,480 think like the opportunity cost could really bury you. 1625 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,360 It's the it's he's going side by side with Omarion Hampton, 1626 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,120 Devonta Smith, Travis Hunter, I get that. 1627 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,680 And Jaden Daniels slightly ahead of them. 1628 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,000 And now DK Metcalf with the with the signing and like you said, 1629 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,280 George Kittle. So I think you, you nailed it, 1630 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,960 Pete, with the opportunity cost for Jameson Williams where we 1631 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,560 just named a bunch of guys that if they have that peak outcome 1632 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,560 season, you're going to really need potentially one of those 1633 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,480 guys. So I I get that one. 1634 01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:58,360 That's the huge scale tournament Jameson Williams bet at that 1635 01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,680 inflated price tag is a lot harder than a 12 team main event 1636 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,520 league where you're getting him alongside like Chris along, 1637 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,680 Yeah. Give me, give me Williams there. 1638 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,200 You treat him like we have, you know, Round 1 rookie wide 1639 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,040 receivers in main events, right where you start with four 1640 01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,480 receivers or three. And then you're tacking this guy 1641 01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:18,560 on as like your luxury. Like, hey, if it hits, it's 1642 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:22,480 really gonna melt our face off. And if not, like whatever we're, 1643 01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:26,960 we're good. Yeah, let's see here. 1644 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,920 Any, any favorite quarterbacks, Theo? 1645 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,760 We haven't talked a ton about quarterbacks other than Rogers 1646 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,320 and Daniel Jones, which isn't too fun. 1647 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,040 I've sort of liked the elite quarterbacks this year, the guys 1648 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:43,360 towards the top of the draft. And then when I get stuck into 1649 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:48,320 the the low end QB ones, I I have a good amount of Justin 1650 01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,080 Fields, Caleb Williams in that range, but I don't mind 1651 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,960 specifically for best ball, sort of those low end QB twos. 1652 01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,280 I think there's a couple guys they're starting with like the 1653 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,560 JJ McCaffrey range player, Bryce Young. 1654 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,680 And when I get super like kind of gross with it, I think Gino's 1655 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,320 interesting because Gino sometimes falls in these drafts 1656 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,600 and I've gotten him a lot of times as like the QB three. 1657 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,440 I think we're really betting on this Vegas offense taking a big 1658 01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:18,040 step forward. And I think Gino could end up 1659 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,200 giving us kind of what he did in Seattle a little bit more of 1660 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:26,280 like a QB15QB16 type results. But sometimes you get em. 1661 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,400 It's like the QB 27 in these drafts. 1662 01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,320 So I haven't mind clicking that button. 1663 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,320 But I think at the end of the day in in a bunch of formats. 1664 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,040 And I had Ben Gretch on Dynasty life the other day. 1665 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,840 We sort of had the same discussion where Sean and him 1666 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,680 and I think 2, I think it was him and Sean in, in two drafts 1667 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,960 might have been him in with Sean in one by himself in another. 1668 01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:50,560 But they drafted sort of a elite quarterback in like 2 drafts. 1669 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:55,440 And I think in in like FPC, that makes a lot of sense there those 1670 01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:58,840 guys who are priced correctly to give you really big results. 1671 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,480 And I put Jaden Daniels in there with with Josh Allen and Lamar 1672 01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:04,480 Jackson certainly is like my big three. 1673 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,400 But then the Jalen Hurts and Joe Burrow are also sort of in a in 1674 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,080 a range where I don't mind drafting them. 1675 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:14,720 So I think elite quarterback, it's fine this year. 1676 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,880 And I think it like like Pat, you talked about with the QB 1677 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:22,680 threes, you sort of also avoid potential landfall players that 1678 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,360 can really hurt you, that have a a downside risk when you're 1679 01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:27,640 drafting those guys in those range. 1680 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:31,320 So I, I think I've been trying to get access to the elite 1681 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,120 quarterbacks in best ball and also in managed. 1682 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,800 I think they're priced well this year. 1683 01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:40,680 Yeah, you just took me back because I do remember, Pat, like 1684 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,960 one of the themes to I think a lot of our high stakes drafts 1685 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,360 last year and maybe in years past too, is like you get to 1686 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:51,120 this spot typically in like round 5 or 6 and the tier feels 1687 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,200 relatively flat at wide receiver. 1688 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:54,800 Like no one's jumping out at you. 1689 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,480 And we're like, yeah, we'll just take Kyler Murray or we'll just 1690 01:24:57,480 --> 01:24:59,800 take Lamar Jackson. Like let's get that that 1691 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,200 quarterback because it's like they seem like the best pick. 1692 01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:04,720 But I just remember a lot of times, like regretting it 1693 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,240 structurally when I was like, man, I wish we just had a little 1694 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,120 more our offensive firepower and like, holy hell, whatever other 1695 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,720 quarterback was available in round 12 or falling to round 15 1696 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,480 and those two V twos, I remember regretting a good bit. 1697 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,480 Yeah, I think though in best ball you're it's not a 2V2 cuz 1698 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:24,720 you're just gonna take another. Quarterback. 1699 01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,480 No, Yeah, I'm talking to two. Later, yeah. 1700 01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:30,560 And managed I think because the other thing is that we tend to 1701 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,080 take early tight end at a decent clip. 1702 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,160 So you end up early tight end, early quarterback and then? 1703 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,680 You can't do that. That's the in high stakes, 1704 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,160 you're never allowed to go early quarterback, early tight end. 1705 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,400 There's certain guys who have. I mean, you can, I can't. 1706 01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:44,640 Build out my starting lineup, Theo, I thought. 1707 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,520 This was a really tough, It's a really, really tough bet to make 1708 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,120 guys, really. Probably probably probably 1709 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,240 crushed last year if you did like Josh Allen, Brock Bowers 1710 01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,200 probably just like a absolute smash show on FF. 1711 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,680 Every strategy works if you pick the right players. 1712 01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,760 Bro. I it's just my favorite. 1713 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,800 My favorite thing has been the Hayden passing around the 1714 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,520 honestly like let's be real false propaganda that it was 1715 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,680 best to do 0 wide receivers through 7 rounds last year. 1716 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,920 I'm like, I'm hoping enough people pick up on that. 1717 01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,560 Yeah, Jameson Williams will be a late fifth round pick. 1718 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,000 I mean if you drafted Brian Thomas junior and Ladd Mcconkey 1719 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,640 in every single draft, the zero wide receiver was OK last year. 1720 01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,440 Yeah, I have AI have a sense. In round one you need that. 1721 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,920 Maybe a little bit of mixed in some JSN last year too, yeah. 1722 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,920 I mean why not just take Gino on like every main event team? 1723 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:38,360 You can just feel like, dude, he's just gonna be 17.8 to 22.4 1724 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,760 points per game every week it's gonna be. 1725 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:45,120 Well, this is a This is a show about veterans and 1 veteran who 1726 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,040 hasn't come up yet is Drake May, who's now. 1727 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,800 Technically. Technically a veteran and taking 1728 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,400 a veteran, any any thoughts on him to you? 1729 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,600 I drafted him in a 350 this week as my first quarterback and I 1730 01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,680 think like if you're committed to the to getting access to 1731 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:05,800 Drake May, you can completely pass on quarterback and get him 1732 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,400 usually as like QB 13 QB 14. So like to Pete's argument, 1733 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:14,680 especially in FFPC and FFC, you're able to get access to 1734 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,120 some really high-powered players and avoid those early Q BS. 1735 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,760 I think Drake may like he the the rushing upside with him is 1736 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,680 just so high that you want some access to him. 1737 01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,440 We do have a lot of concerns about that offensive line taking 1738 01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:32,360 a big step forward this year. They addressed it in the draft. 1739 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,080 They drafted Campbell in the first round, Wilson the center 1740 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,920 in the in the third round. So they put draft capital into 1741 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,040 it and we think the offense is going to be a lot more 1742 01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:45,640 functional with McDaniels and with Vrabel and certainly 1743 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,600 Trayvion Henderson, I think helps Drake may a lot having 1744 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,160 that home run hitter next to him where Madre has just been so mid 1745 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,680 level the last two years in terms of explosiveness. 1746 01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,600 So like I'm I'm in on Drake May. I don't think I'm going to be 1747 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,720 all in on Drake May. I don't think this is a 1748 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,280 situation where you want to have an extreme amount of exposure to 1749 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,640 him, but I'm certainly going to have some builds around him. 1750 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,160 It's just a rushing upside. He's like a little bit of squint 1751 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,520 and see some of that Josh Allen potential rushing ability. 1752 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,280 And I think he could be a weapon of mass destruction around the 1753 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,280 goal line if it all works out well where he just ends up 1754 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,480 falling in the end zone. Could potentially challenge for 1755 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,120 not not getting up to like the Jalen Hertz level. 1756 01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,680 But this is a guy that could end up with a very strong amount of 1757 01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,200 like rushing touchdowns to kind of give himself a little bit of 1758 01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:34,880 a floor on top of the rushing yardage. 1759 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,360 Yeah, I think he could do it. Oh, go ahead. 1760 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:42,520 I was just gonna say I think FPC main event style like the combo 1761 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,760 of like a Drake May or Justin Fields and then you grab a way 1762 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,840 underpriced Gino and you like platoon that like that safety 1763 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,440 with just the bigger upside swing. 1764 01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,520 I put Caleb Williams in that that group, too. 1765 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,640 There's a lot of there's there's variance with like Fields and 1766 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,120 Williams, There's a little bit of variance with sometimes 1767 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,720 people seem to push them up where they should. 1768 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:08,520 Like on paper, you might think it's like the QB 11, the QB 12. 1769 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,440 But you're gonna get into drafts where people are gonna say I 1770 01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:14,960 much prefer Caleb or Fields to like a Baker Mayfield or a Bone 1771 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,880 Knicks. And you don't get to utilize 1772 01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,400 that plan with Drake May. I don't see people reaching for 1773 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,640 him nearly as much 'cause of the fears of the offense. 1774 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,920 So he's just a safer bet if you're going in that direction, 1775 01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,120 sort of the wait on quarterback direction. 1776 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,800 But Pete, I think you've got an argument to double tapping 1777 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,480 quarterbacks in in FFPC main events have access to two of 1778 01:29:34,480 --> 01:29:38,560 these upside bets with mobility and you can end up having some 1779 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,720 really strong builds. All right, Vivian just heard 1780 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,960 that her father has been relegated to eternal damnation 1781 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,960 for fading. Yeah, look your look your. 1782 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,760 Look your daughter, look your daughter in the face and say 1783 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:56,440 yeah, I am taking DK Metcalf over Jameson Williams for for 1784 01:29:56,440 --> 01:29:59,840 exposure reasons. Yeah, well, she's, she's, you 1785 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,080 know, gonna spend her time in California or New York. 1786 01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,400 So her odds of salvation aren't, aren't super high either. 1787 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:10,880 They're low. Well, Theo, we appreciate you 1788 01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:15,000 joining us today to chop it up. Let people know where they can 1789 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,720 find you over at fantasy points and the shows they can keep an 1790 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,000 eye out for. Yeah, so all my written content 1791 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,720 is over at fantasy points. My top 50 expands to a top 100 1792 01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,920 sometime next week. Also dropping a bunch of Dynasty 1793 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:30,560 articles and redraft articles. Some are, some are behind a 1794 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,320 paywall, some are not. And then show wise, I record the 1795 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,080 School of Scott with Scott Barrett every single week. 1796 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:41,320 I'm also doing Dynasty Life. Davis came on that recently. 1797 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,840 But the big one is Fantasy Football Daily. 1798 01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,840 I'm dropping about two or three of those a week and that's going 1799 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,640 to be expanding to about 3 or 4 in season. 1800 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,040 Check out all my shows over at Fantasy Points. 1801 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,560 Check out the Fantasy Points YouTube channel as well. 1802 01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:56,960 And yeah, this was a blast today, guys. 1803 01:30:58,480 --> 01:31:01,280 Yeah, it was great, great having you on there. 1804 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,800 And we even got to break some live Aaron Rodgers news. 1805 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,400 What a what a treat. Davis continues his run of just 1806 01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:12,760 being live during all the most influential events and including 1807 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:16,160 an Elon in Donald Trump, a public feud that is about to 1808 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,920 boil over and apparently a pretty fun way. 1809 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,760 Pat, what do you got going leg up? 1810 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,680 Yeah, just as as you mentioned earlier, we we dropped eliminary 1811 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:32,280 rankings this morning, FFPC baseball Rankings day or so ago. 1812 01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,920 Matt Irby just had a, a, a good article on the site this morning 1813 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,280 as well. I'll be doing some streaming 1814 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:43,800 tomorrow showing off the SIM version of the sidekick as we 1815 01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,120 head towards that, getting that in people's hands. 1816 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,240 Very excited for that. So yeah, check it out on the 1817 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,240 Legendary Upside YouTube channel and plenty more content coming 1818 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,720 on Legendary Upside. What about you, Davis? 1819 01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:00,200 I've got 2 videos coming out this weekend, one on Derrick 1820 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,040 Henry and one actually legitimately useful. 1821 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,680 This. Normally my videos are just 1822 01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,880 there for clicks. This, the one that's going to 1823 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,240 come out on Saturday is actually legitimately a useful exercise 1824 01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:12,520 that will help you draft better best ball teams. 1825 01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:16,120 Even if you think I'm an idiot, the way it's framed will like 1826 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,760 legitimately help you draft better teams. 1827 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,560 True story. Wow man the the mental 1828 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,080 gymnastics you have to do to promote your videos now. 1829 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:29,280 Even if you think I'm an idiot, I promise this is the one for 1830 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,720 you. Check out the Davis Matic 1831 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,920 YouTube channel if you guys missed yesterday. 1832 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:38,680 I did best ball bash, had a fun time drafting and then had Denny 1833 01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,760 on the randomizer. So if you want a a shot of his 1834 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:46,080 expansive deck you can TuneIn to that show. 1835 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:50,160 And also relevant around here, our girl Steph Miller, she's 1836 01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,720 going to be joining me on After Dark on Saturday night. 1837 01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,880 So going to get a catch up with Steph there if you guys are a 1838 01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,480 YouTube member on my channel. Otherwise, we'll catch you guys 1839 01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:04,320 on Tuesday for ADP chasing and then we'll be back next week on 1840 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,400 Thursday for Theo, for Davis, for Pat. 1841 01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:07,800 I'm Pete. We'll see you guys next time.