All right, Uncle Andy is just quitting with any bit of
foreplay, any bit of pleasantries just coming in.
Hot did ten of these rookie and sophomore drafts.
Last night, one guy kept getting in the drafts with drafted Trail
and Justin Fields with his first and second round pick.
Every time he could, I have seen the Our backs in those contests
are hot Commodities. They are.
Those are fun drafts. And I think that's one of the
big decision points is how you approach quarterback because
there's a lot of opportunity cost in taking this
quarterbacks, but you know, if Trey Lance we assume he's gonna
be the starter just a Fields, can be the starter.
They give me that. Rushing upside, you can't really
catch that anywhere else. Maybe you can with some of the
rookies but you certainly don't feel as comfortable with those
liquid Malik Willis because Malik Maybe he gets the trail
and stream, it doesn't start. So that's, that's I think one of
the most interesting things about this dress is quarterback.
I like this. Yeah, Gretch had this idea, I
like this. Why don't we just hop in one
right now? And then maybe we can kind of
talk about how we're feeling about some of the atp's, some of
our thoughts. I did a couple of these with
spags earlier today, and it was definitely hard.
Like, finding clean Stacks, obviously, with so much
uncertainty when I really thought about stacks, It's just
I'm just taking guys. I like I mean the stacks we got.
We did one draft for. We got the Elijah Morin Zach
Wilson. So that one made sense and then
we did we had a late like Davis Mills, Nico Collins Brevin,
Jordan, that we got as well. That's kind of nice and kind of.
Yeah. Somebody did we do it?
I think we did. And ffp.
See, I think we did because I think and then Nico's, the only
other guy in the Texans. I mean, we don't know.
Our Cooks is going to play, but I feel like it would make a even
in a regular draft, it would make sense to do a back door or
gate. Davis Mills to go Collins,
brother, Jordan stack, I wouldn't, I wouldn't hate.
Yeah. Holy cow.
Yeah, jxp's in the ship chasing Court.
Tommy said he did 80 but I think that's yesterday whatever.
I think I have a problem. I right now, but mostly greater,
I've spent weeks just diving into the wide receiver class and
you need to. You've got a problem, dude.
I will say, I think we're probably all in agreement here.
Massive tear break after Jamal, we have the 101.
I haven't got the one-on-one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your hair is guys. I've taken him at the 102.
I've done. I've done.
I think four of these. I've gotten one or two, the 103
every time. Yeah, I mean think hair is makes
perfect sense of the one or two but you gotta take Chase.
Yeah, he seems like he's almost in a tear of his own there too.
As Evan said we do have a friends and family draft.
We got KZ at 12, Billy, Joe 3, and then Evan here at the three
four turn. I do think, and Pat, I'm curious
your thoughts from doing a couple of these today to that.
The quarterback stuff is kind of the most interesting.
Yeah, strategic wrinkle. That's the, that's the decision
point there because like we got the lancefield's guy took a bit
Love it. They love it.
I haven't doubled up like that, but I get it because you're kind
of like locking everyone else. Out of that, rushing upside.
Yeah and I was just pulling up here real quick the set.
So your 1 QB one running back. Yeah to wide receiver 2 Flex.
Yeah so three good receiver options here or you're going to
miss out on land or a Lawrence. If we don't take him with one of
these two as well. I'm Elijah more here.
Yeah, I'm cool with that. I'll put more in the queue and
then if you want Lawrence of kind of want to do etn with
them. I'm okay.
Missing Lawrence yeah, I am too. So let's just skip the queue.
Yeah I think I actually think if you're not taking fields or
Lance, then I've set out this tier of quarterbacks.
I'm just going really. So I feel like etn it Bryce,
Bryce hauler. Better than larger Mitchell.
Who do you guys want? One of these really every down
with like, oh, I'm definitely down with Devante Smith.
Yeah, I was going to say the other guy but I'm unraveling
from Andhra I mean, yeah, let's do Devante.
He's a, he's a safer pick with the draft capital and
everything. The one thing is to pass a, if
you are willing to punt quarterback, like most teams
aren't taking more than two sure.
They can. But your then kind of guaranteed
qb7 and qba, you know, at that point.
Yeah, I've been, I've hunted it once and I've normally tried to
get like One, if I get a chance at Fielder, Fielder Lance, then
I'll I'll take them but but I think punting is just totally
fine I do too. I mean there's so much
projection on these quarterbacks.
It's not like we have a jobber. Oh you know, heading into this
season two like there's legit question marks on all these
guys. Yeah.
None of them were good last year.
I mean, Mac Jones is the only Mac Jones was good last year.
Everybody doesn't give you the fantasy ceiling.
Yeah. JW.
This is the exact combo that's packs and I did on one of our
drafts earlier and that's another thing, probably start to
think about. If you are ripping off 85 of
these is people are getting funneled to combos.
We mentioned that lancefield's combo.
Oh wow, Lawrence is also excellent.
Yeah, I'm coming there on that. And then I mean Mitchell's not
bad here either at this point I think Mitchell makes sense the
only I like Michael Carter too. The only other option I would
say is you could do something like a Zach Wilson.
Michael Carter, Elijah more thing but we can just wrap
Trevor Lawrence here to start. I think Lawrence at this point.
You guys, I can't roll over Carter.
I think I'm Mitchell over Carter just even thinking about the Gap
in their ATP and the season-long stuff.
I mean it just seems like a pretty good value here.
Yeah, that's what I mean, that's sort of how I'm thinking about
it. I like Carter to but Mitchell
was more productive better offense.
There's probably more competition for him to actually
be the guy for the whole year in 2022.
Whereas Carter might have an easier path to do that, but
Mitchell. Subside feels bigger.
Yeah, it's kind of like Carter and he was, he's more of a pass
catcher. If things could kind of move in
the right direction for him and things can move in the wrong
direction for Mitchell. But yeah, I like KC saying
you're welcome because he pitches scared.
Lawrence E is for sure, Mitchell's a kind of classic
DeadZone guy? Yeah, I don't want anything to
do them in regular draft right now.
I mean, I'm like, yeah. There's probably going to be
back where else is most are going to play and like, that
could just yeah. Tank Mitchell right away.
Wow, exactly. KZ continues to punt it.
I mean, I'm I would love getting the Zach Wilson.
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.
Yeah, I'm into that. Let's go from Andre to Walker
and Spiller. I think are good values, okay?
I'll be that's I think about the market values and I think we're
Madre, I don't know. It's like a reminder is good.
We know that but he's not gonna have the backflips himself with
an injury. The other guys are we're not
sure if they're good but I think they have a better chance of
like their atp's. Jumping up a little bit like the
suit. He likes morning with you makes
a picnic spot. So I like Walker more of the
tube. Rookies but I, you know, you're
not saying not to take room Andre, he's Frozen about
tonight, we're taking Walker. Okay, all right, basically, I
was trying to didn't have enough time to like actually say it,
but I don't think there's a right or wrong answer there.
It's like what do you want you want?
Swing for the upside of like getting a good landing spot with
the rookie or do you want a good player who is in an offense?
That will feed him if things, you know, kind of shape up the
right way? Yeah.
Yeah, I still maybe that's what is fun about these different
formats. It's like I've done a bunch of
the big board drafts. I think I ended up getting one
share of Elijah Mitchell where he fell to like the late fifth
or early sex, but otherwise, I just was way too rich for my
blood, but then in a format like this, I think we got him at a
good cost relative to the position.
So, who we looking at 1:00? Both?
Yeah, those guys all want Casey still on the clock here.
So He sitting I assume we're done at quarterback.
Lawrence Wilson's. A good?
Do I think? Let's see who he takes because.
Okay, so he took David Bell. I think David Bell right now is
like one of the keys to drafts as I've done more research this
week, I'm just like, I think he's just an absolute smash.
So I was gonna pound the table but I like George Pickett slot
here. Yeah, like George Pickett alive.
Okay. Pickens has a huge ceiling.
Like a huge ceiling and then who's the other pick do you want
to like in these running backs, Pat?
I like Karen Williams a lot. I think he's, he's got enough
sighs. He's a pass catcher.
He's pretty interesting. Sorry Hil Kyra, top got Chiron.
Okay. And there's not outside of etn.
There's not a single relevant freshman or sophomore pass
catcher on the Jags, right? I'm not think I'm not forgetting
anyone. Mmm.
What this a biscuit but no, it's been wet, Richard jr.
Redshirt freshman at this point. Yeah, this is a leading question
from JW, Pat. Would you say David Bell?
Is what I would say. It's funny because we're doing
this like baseball thing. And now I'm like, we should have
just drafted him because I don't think we took him in that, that
League weird. But I think like he I'm more
excited about him then you know our boy Sky more?
Wow, he kind of looks like he's like an Allen Robinson type
profile like it's it's pretty exciting.
All right you got a minute, Travis my got me more excited
about. Is this our last pick?
No, we do have a 12th rounder as well.
After these two hasn't he CL? I think work.
Yeah, I'm not into met you at all.
I mean I would like Nico. Yeah, Nico seems fun here.
But Jalen Tolbert after that. What about going down to the
next rookie because I don't really feel like Marshall.
I'll be. I mean, honestly, we should take
Skye more because we might not get them in the front.
Yeah, I'm okay. Scammers and he's an awesome
Prospect. Yeah, let's see if he gets draft
capital. I mean he might not get draft
capital and then he won't be an awesome Prospect.
But where are the territory now? Where people are going to feel.
So gas-lit that they can't tell if Sky more is a bit or if we
genuinely like this, dude. Well, The thing I love about one
know I've taken them. I took him in all four drafts
that I did that today, because he was available in the 12th
round of every draft. Okay?
What, that's what the people don't realize is we like plated
biscuit all these other guy in Rondell who who failed so that
we could just wait for the right prospect that we could talk
about constantly. And no one would take because
they have a terrible at this area is just keep Drafting and
whatever dress. Exactly.
Right. We will hammer and one more,
right? We will be very right because
You do have a great guys, we do. After we make this pic, I do
think we should continue a little bit of I poked in and saw
that conversation you're having in the best ball Channel and the
deposit Kingdom Discord about Sky more.
And I think we should, I think that's a good conversation to
have relative to him being a bit or not.
Yeah. I'm all right, that's kind of
work because I think it's a huge range of outcomes in terms of
you know the his pre-draft stuff.
Are we on the clock? I think we shot.
White is a really good pick, I don't know if we need the
running back, I think we can be position.
Agnostic here. Anthony Schwartz is kind of
interesting if you want another receiver.
That's the one that I would be vaguely interested in unless you
like a rookie. I don't know the rookies.
Well enough. I'll, I think White's would be
my pick. He's a, he's got size and he's
His outstanding and yards. We started with three straight
receivers like sorry idea and four running backs in this one.
Yeah I try to take between three and four is what I've been
doing. But yeah, let's um, now we can
kind of have a springboard for kind of talking about some of
these guys here. What do you guys think?
Is kind of the ideal, obviously changes a little bit, depending
what you do early, but what's kind of like, your ideal
position allocation for this 04? Yeah, positional.
I mean, I would say this like 2 4 6, or I think you can even get
away with 237. It's 112 with one Flex.
Yeah so one qb1 running back to pass, catchers One Flex and then
seven bench. So max running back points.
You can have in your starting lineup is too and I mean The
reality is that there are going to be running young running
backs. You see big workloads?
I mean, this is one of those situations where you might
actually want to be a little heavier on backs.
Like, I was kind of thinking. Yeah, broadly, you want the
seven receiver, but this is a kind of tournament where if you
wind up playing two running backs every week.
Something like if you hit on some of these young running
backs, you're in a good spot probably and you don't you only
need to ladybirds. So if we have Chase and Elijah
more and Devon to like, we're not in a bad spot it like I
didn't you could do 255. Yeah it just kind of feels like
you need to be right, right. Yeah.
You just need to pick the right players.
So yeah. I don't know that the position
locations are going to matter that much.
I mean, that's why I do think. I mean, there is so little known
correlations here that I do really.
I mean the fact that we got the Zach Wilson, Elijah more at that
cost. I mean, there's not going to be
a lot of teams who got the Zach Wells and Elijah more stacked
with Wilson in the sixth like that.
That's kind of unusual for a there.
If you wish. Would you take in Michael Carter
and know like we we didn't think we'd get Wilson but Yeah I guess
there are scenarios where yeah well you just have the macro
correlation where the Jets just I don't know.
Are The Bangles? It's fish.
Are they just they just smash it.
You didn't want every piece possible.
Yes, everyone take notes. Just draft the vest Place.
Yeah, welcome guys. You're welcome.
But I got a different They weren't great in year one, but a
lot of cap space this offseason, some draft Capital, they got a
couple top 10 picks like the Jets, they're not going to be
the Bangles but they could be a functional team next year for
sure. Especially if we are debating on
Wilson. I think I would rather have
Carter knowing that we got Wilson for sure.
Yeah, I would too but I just you know, I didn't think we'd have
Wilson. So yeah Casey's team is
interesting. He pushed that thought
experiment to the max as far as waiting on quarterback you took
Pickett and And how as is only two quarterbacks at the very end
which is, which is definitely pushing it.
I like that, I think that might be like, you're not going to
feel comfortable with a lot of this teams, and a lot of those
teams will probably be like, will probably be dead because
like maybe one of those get. Maybe house a second-round pick,
you know, it doesn't really you only starts like three games or
something. I'll season.
But I do think that the way this rookie class shapes up at
quarterback is that, you know, there's going to be at least
three guys, taking the first round, maybe up to five guys,
taking the first round and the NFL is not very good at
evaluating quarterbacks and we're worse.
So I guess you know if a guy has like rushing ability and he's
going to be a first-round pick then you know I think he's going
to be a really strong value the issue.
As we don't know, which of these guys are going to be the first
round picks because they're all kind of jumbled together.
But I like her a lot, I like howl, because those guys have
rushing up side as well at Willis, obviously, picking those
guys are right, pick, it doesn't so much, but the argument for
him would be, he has a very high chance of being one of the
quarterbacks selected in the first round.
So he's kind of more like a cheaper Davis Mills or
something. Right?
The other thing but guys, that I really like As I was going to
come before that maybe Nagi was a clear one or two, but I was
thinking, as I was saying it that I would probably want to
take water water too, and I thought that was baller.
I mean, bottle is what I took waddle over Javonte twili.
I don't have Devon takes. I kept taking model with 103
well and to, I mean, it is a little spooky seeing that quote
about Melvin Gordon potentially returning.
And then all of a sudden it's like, are you, are we really
feeling good about Javonte Williams is a 1/2 turn pick and
full drafts or at the 102 and these drafts like there's a lot
of risk there as much as we're excited about his talent right
with a Packers lead franchise. Now you know the guys that came
from the Packers that have been platooning running backs for
years. I hope he starts going in the
late S. I want to take him there every
time. I mean he probably was good last
year, he is older. And the thing that we got out of
Toronto is Rookie year was that he's good?
Like he will, he's good really good and so is really good.
It's still this bet on Palette, it's still this.
Well, if anything happens to Gordon, we have a top five pick,
basically. I mean, I would take him top 5
of Gordon was like injured and that's in there.
Like Gordon's got a bring back. They don't really have a third
running back and Gordon gets hurt and you want his going to
get the whole back. Feel.
That's, it's fun. And they get a quarterback.
I mean, if they get a quarterback, he is a top five
pick. That's the only thing holding
him back. Yeah, I agree with that.
Take that. If you get a discount on him,
the risk/reward is definitely there.
But I do think I think just it's a little Rich where he was going
at the one to turn, like, I'm not comfortable with him there
right now, I agree. So you'll probably end up
settling in the middle of the second and then we won't have a
clear play, either way. Yeah, I want you to elaborate on
the quick discussion. We were having about Kenneth
Walker as this, but you also talked about it, Richard white
for a second, I don't know the running back, the running back
class very well. I haven't dug his deep into the
Rhinebeck, us feel more comfortable to receivers, but
Basically my take on the running back class overall, is that
there's three guys at the top Bruce Hall, who seems like
fairly valued is one of those things where like kind of the
demands of Point going. The mid S, I feel that way a
little bit about freeze. I think he's probably a slight
value, but but he's not like a screaming value like anywhere in
these or the regular drafts. But he's kind of the number one
guy. It's probably like a David
Montgomery type. Maybe a little bit better, kind
of a Josh Jacobs tie. Pipe has size, receiving ability
how to size capable receiver elusive, but that doesn't seem
to be like a strong consensus that he'll be the first running
back off the board. And so, therefore, I think
Spiller and Walker are both really interesting because they
have similar profiles. Spiller was not as much of a
Workhorse in college. So that's kind of the thing.
It separates him and hall and then Walker really was not used
as a receiver in college. He is a 0.45 career yards per
outrun. That's about half of what Hall
and Spiller have. But I stopped going to Travis
met and he was he was saying that, you know, he thinks that
that could be kind of system based for Walker and that he was
used as a receiver in high school.
Like he has like the ability to catch the ball out of the
backfield, he think. So if that's true then I think
you know, Walker Has a lot of upside.
He was awesome this past year. So so these are all like, sort
of similar backs. They all have adequate size.
They all are sort of early down and we're hoping they have
receiving, we've seen more receiving from Hall.
All that would have think about it.
We've seen about the same receiving like at least from a
u.s. brought one for perspective, Hall and Spiller
are very similar there in, like the kind of like the cam Akers
Camp of like guy, who is probably going to be fine as a
receiver, but isn't necessarily going to be like, you know, like
a really strong receiving Talent, it's more like of a team
is going to give him the workload, he'll be fine.
Davonte Williams is probably in a similar camp or it's like,
that's not like why you After them, but you can certainly
handle it if you treat them as a three down, got Mark, Ingram,
you know, those types of backs. But yeah, they all have decent
size, all three of those guys. They're all going to be like
kind of around between 210 and 220 and, you know, testing and
everything will kind of help separate them probably, but To
me I'm like hey if if Spiller gets drafted in the second and
the other to get drafted in the third hear me, really happy.
Drafted, Spiller or with Walker, is that guy?
You know, and I think that's plausible.
The guy doesn't seem like the NFL's is as excited about briefs
Halls. We are.
But I do think the priest holds the best of the three right now.
But I like the discount that you're getting on the other two,
So just I know this is a very hard forecast, just with how
dependent these backs will likely be to landing spot.
But just thinking through last year's kind of rookie running
back ATP throughout the summer, you know, nausea second round
pick you had etn and Javonte kind of fifth.
Sixth round picks, Michael Carter What?
Eighth ninth like, what realistic ATP bands?
Do you see for for these guys? Like are all the guys were
discussing? Like maybe going to be topped
out at like a fourth fifth round.
Type ATP like is there a second or third round ATP back in this
group? I think Hall, could, maybe be
that guy like a third-round pick?
If you just like, isn't a perfect situation?
I don't even know what that situation would be, but Atlanta,
I mean like capital and maybe landing spot and make such a big
difference with. I mean, look at like Clyde words
of layer at this point. In his year, we were not that
soaked in the Chiefs decided to take him in the first round.
I like oh and we're like people were excited about it but he did
not look like a guy who would be a sec.
Around redraft picket as a rookie.
And then as soon as he landed right first round of the Chiefs,
it was like okay. Yeah he's going that high.
Yeah that's that's a great point and Sam points out that Walker
right now and grinding the mock says the best expected draft
position of the three which is which goes right to my point of
you know, you like Walker could be the guy who's drafted first
it maybe he's the favorite to be drafted first.
I think that most likely it. It kind of I think is going to
turn out a little bit like, what the 2020 rookie class outside of
Jonathan. Taylor and CH but never, there
was that group of guys that was like Dobbins acres and Swift.
It was all kind of like in the like, mid mid fifth or maybe
early, fifth range. I think we're probably see those
guys assuming and Taylor was only a little bit ahead of that,
he was like forth. I thought he was more like
third, yeah, in high stakes. Definitely by the end.
But earlier, like in earlier August, especially in more
casual, yes, like you could get him in the fourth every time.
Yeah, he was the guy that like was zooming up because I
remember he was part of that hyper fragile strategy where
there was a time where you could get Jonathan Taylor as your rb3,
and then that just became harder and harder to do.
He started when he you started seeing him go off and like the
303 that's when it was like, okay, he's risen a lot.
Yeah. Yeah, but I was just going to
say him around actually. Yeah he was he was he was crazy
and he went 101 in ffp see drafts after the Thursday night
game because he popped off remember that.
I think that was against New England where he had that
massive gave that he was just what a what a crossword he still
almost like paid it off, just because that game was so
massive. I mean I was considering with
the 103 in a post Thursday night draft there was some other
buddies we ended up taking Chimera and that's the team that
finished 19th overall. So that's funny.
Now that you say that going all the way back to that, we drafted
that one after the Thursday night game and we were looking
at pick three with because we had already taken another team.
Same group with Chimera at again, the three slot and both
are two drafts that we did. Yeah.
And we did come here and both but for those of you guys who
don't know what we're talking about with the FPC drafts, This
Dynamic with the live drafts in Vegas, where a good chunk of
them happen after the Thursday night games.
And so you get to draft with the knowledge of how that game
played out and you get to bank those points in your week, 1
starting lineup. So it's this constant wrestling
with do. I want to get off to a fast
start like you book a win? If you draft CH when he puts up
45 or do you not want to buy the top on a guy who you think just
had his best game of the season and it's all downhill and I
bring up America's the this was the year Khmer, has the 60D
game. I mean that's Why we finished
19th in the yeah, like we fortunate, right?
Because we were definitely discussing that.
Yeah, so another question in the chat, what?
It's a want to finish up on the thing real quick.
That Bruce Hall in this big board that the board slow drive
that I'm in. He wants 603 and so like maybe
he moves up around if he gets kind of like your average spot,
maybe around and a half but then Kenneth Walker, I took it 904
and then Spiller went at nine ten.
So to me, it's like those guys, there's so much more room for
them to move up and not a ton of downside from there.
So they're kind of priced much closer, therefore, I think.
Yeah. And Sam was also saying, do we
think Miami could potentially be the best landing spot for a
running back? Yeah, that's a good call.
I like that one a lot. It definitely goes like one of
the one of the juice here ones. He also tosses in.
Yeah Miami Tampa Bay, lots of uncertainty there Cardinals.
If they don't retain Cardinals would be really good.
They're gonna prove because I kind of think honor might be
back there in Edmonds. Might not because Connors the
one kind of stayed healthy was more reliable.
You know, teams are about that stuff and he was good last year.
That would be interesting if that's what they want with it.
Yeah, Comics, I can sense. Oh, Pat flesh out.
That sneaky little comment you had about David Bell being the
key to drafts right now. What did you mean by that?
So the thing about David Belle at like At first I was thinking
you know maybe he's not going to be all that.
Highly drafted but it seems like maybe he will be you know like a
second round pick. It's if he's a second-round pick
is profile is really, really strong and I think I compared to
a guy like Sky more. You know, David Bell.
I think probably has better chance of being a second-round
pick because you know it wasn't in the mac and he okay let me
hear some good things about bail.
He's gonna play his entire work season at 21 years old or nearly
he turns 22 in December. He he broke out with a 34%
yardage here. 53%, touchdown. Share 44% Dominator rating as a
sophomore. He had very strong career
numbers. Thirty percent career Dominator
rating. He was very efficient as a
junior. He had two point seven yards per
hour on which is very strong. He's pretty solid downfield.
He's not like a big contested catch guy even though he's kind
of a larger receivers not huge but he's like to 15 but he's not
unlike kind of Drake London who's sort of like just jump
ball guy. He looks like you know he's
actually able to Get open, get targets and also draw targets
deep as well as in the middle of the field.
So it really just comes down to does he get the drop position
and was his inefficiency in the program like a, because he was
good in y'all's problem, but he was not good in yards per Target
so he's like he's getting a lot of use earning targets at a high
rate, he wasn't so good in terms of yards per Target, so it does
that come down to Purdue kind of being an inefficient offense,
which they did or, you know, does that say something about
Bell to me? It's like if he goes in like a
strong offense and he's able to earn targets at a really high
rate and giving kind of his profile and his production.
I just think he profiles has a really high ceiling guy and a
guy who could be ready right away.
That's intriguing and where are really cheap?
He's really cheap. And you think he could be a day
to guy? Yeah, I think he could be a day
to. I think he'd be around to guy.
That'd be nice. And then would your kind of
bullishness on him drop? If he's a round 3 guy, It would
drop a little bit but with that type of profile.
I'm still going to be pretty in if he's if he's round 3.
Yeah and then also the the conversation.
I was mentioning that I saw you having in the best Paul channel
in the Discord because Anthony Amico had a tweet about how Sky
more what got out produced by d's courage in in college and
you had some added context to what you thought might have been
going on there. Yeah.
And I think if these were very high on Sky more, but he was
just like, oh God, he got Body by Dwayne Eskridge in 2020.
Like this could be a problem but I think the out of context is he
Sky, more only played five games in 2020 and he actually took a
red shirt like he's technically a redshirt sophomore.
So I don't think we want to be like taking a ton of information
away from his 2020 season in terms of like Shifting our
perception of this player but also Dwayne Eskridge was a
fifth-year senior, he had a 45 percent dominated rating that
year, so like, you know, he's going off.
He's was a terrible pick by the Seahawks, like just absolutely
terrible pick but Dwayne Eskridge is still like a
professional NFL wide receiver, like he was gonna get drafted,
you know. So the fact that Sky more had a
26% dominated rating as a sophomore, which is like that.
It's just good. Kind of.
Like, if you have a 26% diamond ring as a sophomore, that's
that's good. We'd like to see a big Junior
season, which he delivered, but there's nothing wrong with 26%
domineering. Dominator rating is a sophomore.
The fact that he did that alongside a receiver who then
got drafted in the second round and frankly he's just an NFL
wide receiver because we are dealing with a mess Western
Michigan. Wide receiver.
One of the concerns is who was he, was he playing next to
anybody did? He actually have Target
competition to me. It's actually a good sign that
he did. He had some real Target
competition and he was you pointed out before you get three
years, older, three years older. Yeah, literally 23 years old
that year, Sky more was 20 and I was pointed out in the Discord
like, you know, Nelson A Galore strongly outproduced you to
Smith Schuster. Is they overlapped like, I just
kind of like pulled up some guys that I, you know, I thought
Would come to mind the kill. Harry kind of held brain.
And are you completely in check? And he they were the same year,
but I iook was a Juco transfer. So was his first year in the
program to kills, third year in the program.
So you see this a lot where a guys, you know, got a couple
extra years in the program and he's older and he's able to
dominate and the other wide receiver isn't ready to take
that full step into stardom at the college level yet to me,
there's like Really no concern especially because again, he
only played five games that season and then he has this
incredible junior year and I don't know if there's just so
much like about Sky more because he also, you know, he played, he
played in the slot that year, then he played on the outside in
his in his Junior breakout year. So you see that versatility?
Because he was efficient in yards per route, run in, in the
year, with Dwayne Eskridge, but who's even more efficient the
year after? So to me it's like kind of an
interesting footnote that they played together but it's not the
situ situation where you want to be like really strongly
adjusting your opinion on a five-game sample where the guy
took a red shirt. Yeah.
And and mean to your point of it, being a five-game sample.
You had a 26 percent dominating like you said, and I just pulled
it up in me as 29 % yd 23% TD's. And this is a tiny sample.
I mean, it's three TDS in five games.
Literally, if you had one more TD in this, Example, has
dominated writing looks more, he's a breakup season entire
it's probably break out season and we'll talk about a very
small sample. There's no telling that over
multiple more games, I mean, you put way more weight on the fact
that he came out of 43 percent dominated rating in 2021 and
also that he had 20% and it was 26% yards with 14% TVs, like it
wasn't a big touchdown score but as a true freshman comes in 26
%. Yd was a scratch on the team
that year in 2019. I mean George was hurt Eskridge,
only played two games in 2019. But still I mean any true
freshman coming in and putting up 26% yards, you're excited
about right? Even at Western Michigan.
Yeah. Yeah, I think it would be a, I
think it would be a legitimate red flag if he was reversed or
like, not reverse. But to your point, let's say he
scores two more touchdowns. He gets an actual breakout
season in 2020, but Dwayne Eskridge has a 45 percent
Dominator rating and then Sky, more doesn't have a very good
One. So now his breakout season has
this red flag of. Well, it he was getting
completely outshined by Dwayne Eskridge and it was his only
Goodyear is that something that you want to put a ton of stock
in it. And it was a partial year.
We've had a five-game sample where he was good but not nearly
as good as this other guy who don't think is very good and
then he never don't want to put any stock in that.
And we Army wouldn't. I don't think I would.
And I think your point is that that we shouldn't the other way,
right? Like we shouldn't the other one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it was bullish, it would be,
we shouldn't. We shouldn't put so much stock
in. It's like mildly bearish and I
don't think we should put much stock in it.
This feels like a good, a good profile.
I think we I think we could keep pumping the sky more bags.
Actually, think it's my flea bullet.
My take is that it's mildly bullish, that he played
alongside legit NFL wide receiver and had a 26 percent,
diameter, a touring as a sophomore but I would totally
understand. If you think it's mildly
bearish. I was I think I forget was it
your podcast would Travis Pat that I was listening to but just
in hindsight what made Jamar Chase such a slam dunk, having
the benefit of knowing how he played alongside Justin
Jefferson and that we saw just to Jefferson crush it like it
hide site. It just even seems more obvious
like why didn't I have even more Supreme confidence in Jamar
Chase because I still had in my head like OCD lamb was the top
prospect the year before he's going 7th 8th round and Us
Jamar. Chase is now going in the fourth
round like this. Get a little too crazy.
Is there meat on this bone? And it's like holy cow.
He was out producing the guy who had like the best rookie season
ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I don't know that we'll ever get that again we probably
never will, you know or I mean I mean there's a lot there's so
many examples of that but like AJ Brown and D came back at both
coming in and being. Yeah.
Right. Unlike AJ Brown like doubled him
up in some stats in the games they played together.
College. Because Asia Browns.
Just that good. I mean he's that he made DK
Metcalfe profile look worse because he's he did.
He made EK Metcalf look like a boom.
Bust lotto ticket. Yeah.
Wait, who is that? How am I blanking on his name?
Who is the, was it Dorial? Green-Beckham?
That's how. Yeah, that was why I gots the
right read about for Becca for Metcalfe was like, oh, this is
that guy all over again? I can barely remember his name.
That's his name. Sam Actually points.
I said we never get it again. We're probably literally going
to get it again next year. Jackson Smith and Jigme is like
pull up his profile bed, it's like it's wild.
He I keep hearing that as while. It's wild.
Yeah, pull it up. Garrett Wilson, right?
Not going to be Justin Jefferson because I mean who's gonna be
Justin Jefferson? But Gary Wilson looks really
strong. You also have Chris olave, who
looks like, maybe you kind of like he's Marquis Brown.
Garrett, Wilson's, CD lamb but then Jackson Smith the Jake but
might be Jamar Chase and they're all playing together.
Jason only had a 26 Dominator rating this year.
I mean, 32 % yd. I thought you were going to, I
thought I was going to see like 35% even but he's playing with
two other first-round picks what you're saying.
Yeah, but he also had 1605 yards.
Yeah, that's the LSU thing. We're like the actual
domineering, does it look good enough?
Because they threw for so many yards.
Yeah. And if see, Sid box, score is
just absolutely silly. Look at this string again,
starting in November 240 yards, TD, what 39 TD 105, TD 127 and
then in the Rose Bowl, Veteran, 47 yards, it's options.
Like yeah, that's like nine plus every game and 15 twice.
Like that is it's not easy to put up 15 receptions in a game.
No. But he's also getting loose for
big plays. I mean, look at the the yeah,
the length on these passes. Just man, he's going to be few.
Also like when you put on a highlight he has like some sick
catches. He had his catches a freshman
where he like caught in the back of the end zone, got his feet.
Them down somehow. So what is his like stylistic
comp like at this size? Because this is still a pretty
small build relative to a lot of.
I mean, I mean he's similar size to Jamar Chase.
He's similar size to, I guess he's a little shorter than
Justin Jefferson, but I think just stepson was like, slightly
over 200 pounds. Yeah, CD lamb is DJ.
Morgue is bigger than that. He's like to 10.
That's who I'm thinking more, she likes to 10, but 6 feet.
Yeah, yeah, they're both like, see what I think.
I think they're sort of similar Jason Morgan.
His stylistic Compass Garrett. Wilson, tell me sister.
No, I won't say I'm says we're on a slippery, slope to becoming
a Debbie podcast. I don't think so.
I think we're allowed to talk about next year's wide receiver
one without this being a heavy podcast.
Hey, I promise you. It's it'll start to become a
very short podcast. That's a tempie podcast.
Will do you want to pull up a? You want to do?
Monetize this and Pusher Jackson Smith.
See monetize this. I love that the stylistic comp
is his teammate because it's exactly how to do with Alabama
like all the all Gamers, a of the same, like in the bottle is
Henry rugs and all this stuff. Here we go.
There goes bad now. I need I need a tighter at it.
I can't be doing a 12-minute edit.
Come on, give me the good stuff YouTube.
Where's my guy? Where is my editor that?
I loved. How about bad heat Creations.
That sounds promising. Let's see this here.
Cook's mixes, only 218 views, 35k views, whatever.
We're going to go. We'll go with will go with this
one, bad heat creations. See if we.
How to get a little theme music going?
I need the best thing. Which isn't doesn't really miss
the Freshman when it did. It's not that fast.
I mean it's not like 43 he's obviously a good athlete but
yeah, he's probably 4445 because he's not big either his arms
that like obviously they have fun system stuff does not matter
as much into production but it's kind of interesting.
This was kind of the chase conversation to rise.
Like, well I'll Chase. Nice of you is more like to 15.
Yeah. But Chase is like a 4:3.
Didn't you test out of this world or what?
Yeah, I think it's like, 44. I feel like chases faster,
Jetson. Yeah, I agree.
It does even like the way they're used him.
In this offense does feel like how the Bangles were using
Jabbar. Chase at the end of the season.
Yeah, he reminds me a lot. Yeah.
Which is not meant to be a dick, but like definitely, like faster
and more sudden than Keenan after the catch.
But like bodies body size I guess because he is kind of he
has kind of Slender and like not calls.
Yeah. Right.
He's definitely obviously running different routes and
Keenan and has a different play style that came in but that's
who I was thinking of. The best high interest
Albemarle. I haven't heard it before we
become a Debbie podcast, so, just the last note on him.
I think, you know, we should probably give Garrett Wilson a
little bit more credit than we. Otherwise might he had a 29%
dominated rating this past year, while sharing the field with
Jackson Smith and Big Bubba, and Chris, a lava who could
potentially be a First round pick.
Maybe a second round Peg. So Wilson is just someone who I
think the numbers are just like gonna have to miss on like
there. The numbers couldn't possibly
know the context that you know, Ohio's of this Ohio State
passing core. Yeah, look at you.
The chat is so we have he's Garrett Wilson but a little
worse route. Runner Doug says, remember,
everyone looks good in highlight vids.
Casey wants us to replay this when he becomes Nikki.
Harry. I made good God.
So Eric wait you gotta go up a little higher because so many
compared to Jerry, Jerry Rice. I was just rolling up so we got
that, that's not highlight, the good stuff.
We know that guy is a reasonable cop as far as talking about sort
of the playstyle and stuff that were talking about not
obviously, I don't know how you company think that Jerry Rice,
but what we're doing is, we're pumping your future 101 Dynasty.
Pick bags if you want exit. Liquidity on those, we keep
talking about Jackson Smith and jig but here, let's see.
What about the? Here's one here's one.
That's what about like a thicker Devonte Smith?
Okay. See that?
Do you know who honestly? Like just his body type and I
know he's not as tall as him but he looked like Robbie Anderson
to me like his. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
I could see that too. Yeah.
Let's see here. Oh sorry.
I thought you were saying Garrett Wilson but a worse,
right? Yeah, that I thought that was a
slamming him. Wouldn't that be implying, that
he's not as good as Garrett Wilson.
It's possible. He's not, it's possible, is not
as good as Gary Wilson. It'll be really interesting to
see his next season. I mean, that's not like him.
We know what he did with these guys.
If he comes out, has another 26, Dominator writing like people
are not going to be as excited this time next year.
Yep, that's right. Let's see.
What do you want? Hundred yards.
I think we'll get over it. Ben, let's, let's wrap up with a
little Omni talk. I know.
Most of my drafts are somewhere in the 8th 9th 10th rounds,
chugging along here, what's the state of the union on Omni right
now? It's good, man.
Next Tuesday, is the first, the, the second leg second leg of the
round of 16 for the Champions League start.
And so that's when we'll get our first official points for this
year because whoever advances from those second legs will be
in the final eight of the Champions League.
So we when we draft there, 16 teams left Champions League.
So we will be starting to have finalized results, next, Tuesday
and Wednesday, and then the following Tuesday and Wednesday.
And then the big that continues to like, there's like month gaps
between all the stages of the Champions League that continues
to stretch all the way until the June.
I think the big first contest around the corner.
Also is March Madness, obviously than that.
Ends in early April is the first port to finalize but yeah, the
drafts are all ongoing. We did the, the big Omni cup
thing with The, the ship chasing cup.
There's the three drafts that we're all doing, which is going
to be great. But then we have the big Omni
cup thing that I think a lot of the listeners are in.
There's 144 people in it 12, teams of 12.
All those drafts are at least in whatever Pat's draft is made it
too because that's the ones been bringing up the rear at least in
the 7th. Yeah.
They're about to finish the seventh.
We got some drafts at have for that on the cup that have
already reached the 11th round and that started last Thursday
I'm in the slow one for the Omni cup.
As well as the ship taste. Yeah, yeah wondering what the
common variable is. Yeah.
But there's no way to tell what the common variable is Gretsch.
How what's the chatter? Because this does seem to be one
of the biggest keys to Omni drafting right now is how you're
thinking about the MLB season, have you?
I assume it. Is there anything structurally
that you have to? I don't got it.
I don't think that. I don't think I'd put it.
In the rules, actually, which I should have but 2020 was a weird
one where we had a bunch of, like, money leaks that you had
College fast. Yeah.
College basketball in the Euro was like, you know, we're doing
World Cup this year. It's there, you know, European
soccer championship, that's every four years, got canceled,
and it's kind of tough when you have to sports get cancelled and
keep some people took them early, some took, I'm late, we
didn't know what to do with it. A lot of the League's I was in I
was kind of rattle because I won like three of my Omni had like
five and I won three of them but We decided just like we couldn't
pay out. Basically easy choice for other
people to make what they didn't win.
But let's not pay been what we decided, what we decided for the
future years at that time. And again, I don't know if I put
in the rules but it's like now we're just going to establish
that. If something happens in a sport,
can be played like everyone can zero.
So it's just the way that it is like, this was what we, there's
no other way around it other than It's the only fair way you
taking on whatever risk you want.
We knew about the lockout when we are drafting.
I personally still think it's 95% or higher than will be as
World Series this year, like they've canceled two series,
maybe they cancel some months. That's still another big step
forward, but once they start canceling months and we get into
the summer and they're supposed to have the center stage and
they're not playing baseball in June and stuff.
Are they really going to carry that all the way through six
months of, you know, the baseball season so long?
I'm of the mind that we're going to have a, at least a shortened
season even if they make it to like, June and they're locked.
Out. Can you guys see a scenario
where they really cancel this whole year?
I mean, that seems crazy to me, that seems crazy especially
because, like, baseball is not in a position to be canceling
Seasons. No, no, no, you need every see,
if anything, you should be having two seasons, because if,
if you, if you cancel baseball, you're like that kid, that went
away for camp and never come back and like everyone just kind
of forgets that you ever existed in the first place.
So I can eat it - we're gonna find something else to do in the
summer. That going to baseball games and
they're not going back. Hey, that's Gigi for baseball if
they take a year out of five. Yeah, do not take a year off
baseball. I gotta think, by the time we
get to june-july those summer months where like there's not a
lot going on in the Sports World, other than baseball, like
we were going to see, baseball like it man can again not figure
that out. Yeah.
But yeah, no, I mean, if it does get cancelled, I'm, you know,
just making it clear here, like, it will be zeros for everyone.
I've been taking a bunch of MLB players from a reasonably early
or team. Is reasonably early too.
So yeah, I took them reasonably early.
As well. Yeah, I guess because there was
kind of a value there and I was like, yeah, I know, I honestly
keep forgetting because every time I go to look at the
available positions, I'm like oh the Mets.
Look like a decent value here. I'm like, oh yeah.
Baseball might not happen. That's why they're still here.
What? Any other Trends been across the
League's? That have surprised you so far
or is it kind of going along expected points?
I haven't really dug a ton. Yeah, it's been going along.
Expected points. I think we've talked about the
Chargers in a few places as an interesting features.
Bet I may be on this show. And I mean, Sean talked about on
stealing bananas a little bit. I see the Chargers are go like
six pics earlier than their expected points.
In every draft, I bed now and not like, had to give it, had to
go to open my mouth. I can't even pick the charges, I
have not been able to take them in any draft, they go, really,
really, I saw them. Go ahead of the Bangles who have
much higher odds, The Bangles are in a sandwich.
Spot with a rookie quarterback and like I think I would take
the Bengals straight up there. The team that was just in the
Superbowl but I mean, I get it, I get taken the the Chargers as
well but that's been an interesting one.
I don't know, man. As far as Trent's, it's been,
it'll be fun to dig into once. We've looked at it a little
more. So, can I ask you guys because
I'm well, I probably did three last year or something maybe
thing before. But I'm in for right now
simultaneously, and I said last week that's like, hey look, if
you took like, you know, this Champions League team in one
draft, maybe take another one, the other drop I've completely
been in that strategy and I'm just taking the same teams and
ever. Everything I did the research.
I know I like this team. I have Brazil in every single
just like I'm rooting for Brazil.
This summer. Let's go.
We had the site and had built it out.
I didn't do any of the building, shout out Kevin's at local and I
had a couple players like that, Pat and and they hit like Dustin
Johnson that year was like the sea.
Golfer or something because you had a bad 2019, but he was still
a good. And I took him in like the sixth
round of a bunch of drafts and he won the 84 Golf.
And I was like he was huge like, across multiple leagues, you
know? So it's really similar to
Fantasy Football. I do.
You want to put all your eggs in one basket or not.
I don't think it's bad. Like you're still going to be a
little bit different turns out. Yes, turns out I'm going all in
on the numbers and I find myself in the same spot.
Dude, I have taken. I've taken the same like Like
NASCAR drivers times because I read somewhere that they, they
were had like lowered the horsepower glass two years, but
they brought it back up. Anyone who knows, NASCAR is
listening to this and pounding the table about how stupid I
said. But I had this idea in my head
that the guys that were good before, two years ago, the
haven't been so good. The last couple of years, my
bounce back, like Kyle Busch, has an example that hasn't been
as good the last couple years, but you got drafted early.
One of the drafts that I'm in. He got drafted like three spots
ahead of his expected point. Maybe someone knows something I
took him in a couple drafts I took like Denny Hamlin and he's
old-school dudes. And I did that as well with
hockey. I keep taking the same freaking
hockey teams. I have like yeah, Carolina and a
couple of them that are looking good.
Oh, I've been drafting Carolina, I think I took over again.
Let's go hurricanes. All right, hurricanes is just
chasing team. Yes, I do you guys do the thing
where it's like someone makes a pic outside of the expected
points. You like, What the fuck?
Do they know that? I don't?
Well, you can't be do it. You have like, they know
something. And I also it's funny to like
this happens where I always use the example.
Like, read a New York Times article, you know, many years
ago about DFS and you're like yeah that's kind of portrayed
wrong or that's not actually how this works or whatever.
And then you think about all the other things you read in just
take his truth because it's in a paper of record or whatever.
That's how I am with the expected point.
So that I look at the NFL ones I'm like, yeah, I don't know
about this, there's whole, are they actually have and then have
like, Just blindly tail. The expected points in any other
thing. And I'm like, think about
probably you could poke in this guy I picked a great another
thing I want to say and I should have done this before, but I've
been trying to keep up with the Omni cup drafts, which there's
12 of them and I'm in for of my own like passing.
So I think I'm in, I think I'm tracking like, 15 drafts, but I
need to update. The expected points are like a
couple of weeks old now. There has been some shifts in
sports so just a heads up to anyone.
Let's suppose you know there's some some free Alpha as the Boys
set. You might want to actually go,
look at the Futures odds. Expected points are based on the
feet life, everything I got on the Futures odds.
If the future side shift, the expected points would look
different will see. That's why listen everyone's
like you gotta make your picks and me and Liam we get it.
You sit on the clock because you wait until the Expected points
get updated. You see we now which we
information I should do it, I'll try to do tomorrow or something
but it's going to shift especially like hockey college
basketball, NBA not so much. They don't usually get shit like
huge shifts in their features odds but probably some but
hockey there's been some shifts for sure and and college
basketball. Definitely there's been some
shifts. Oh has there because I've been
drafting extremely blindly off of the cow.
College basketball, expect points.
I'm excited, we'll look what's that?
I just want. Like I saw the Auburn has a guy
that's going to be like a very high NBA draft pick.
So I've just been hammering this shit up all over the operative
for the teams that lost country, if using games.
And so then there's seed could be a little worse, they're still
up there, they're tied fuzz, Purdue doest odds now and
they're back, they're tied for fourth best expected point, so
they're not way off produced moved.
Up from our expected points. He just lost last night. 20
Wisconsin though. They don't think so, their
fourth and they're tied for fourth year, they're similar.
It's not like making sites and top fixture say.
And now I got it. It's not major shift to the top.
I would say once you get to like the 8th to 15th college,
basketball teams. If you're kind of waiting till
the late rounds, there's some teams that are have moved on.
Like, let's see. I mean, I mean Providence,
Jemison fire to since these were Updated.
I know that but they haven't their odds have not improved
that much. They're still 71 and DraftKings.
I'm looking at it right now. 72 one, but Tennessee's up to 35,
to one that puts them. One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven their 12th best odds on
our site. They're like 15th to 18th or
something. So I mean when when we update
the expected points, Tennessee is going to come way up.
I mean, it wouldn't it might look weird now, to draft this
team that has low expected points, you know, as a 12th best
the 12th best college basketball team.
It's going to update. We're going to update the
expected points in the certain point.
So aldehyde leak. Go go.
Look at the actual Futures odds. If you're not sure about some of
these Sports, I'm getting very angry with the chat.
We've got a common here Auburn has two guards.
That refused to pass the future and one pick elal.
That doesn't sound great, but also spins pieces, Purdue also a
notoriously. I didn't reform E20 team, so I'm
just hammering. These are the two teen.
I don't think I've taken any other teams, but these tapes
because they didn't They tend to stick around.
Probably for good reasons. I took / doing the fifth round a
few years ago and they got be 0. They were like, they were like
one of the top NCAA teams that regular season and I don't think
I've gone over it and I will say too.
I mean, the Futures odds are are obviously important, but I would
say seating for NCAA of across, a lot of them is the more
meaningless. You're not getting home-field
Advantage. You know, the team's you're
playing you know, are roughly the same caliber so I don't
know. Well the only reason yeah.
Yeah, I agree with that. The biggest thing for me is the
one seeds I have poked in on and try to keep an eye on like if
the one seed line is changing, what it all these Bracketology
is that people are looking at, because the 16 seats are
obviously, would sort of just walk throughs.
We've had one ever win there and then the 89s, I feel like the
7:10 game, we get more 72 upsets than 89 ones.
I'm guessing, I don't actually know that for sure but it feels
like the ones a lot of times can kind of if they're good enough
walking to the Sweet 16 and then they're essentially one game
away from They'll lie date, where you get points that it's
not a home field advantage. Think it's more about the
seating thing or it's like, they won seats.
Do have sort of an advantage in that regard.
Yeah. Can I I'll go ahead and just
curious how you guys have been treating like, flexing and
doubling up. She's as I did this.
I didn't know if this was a good strategy of bad strategy but I
just did it in a sixth. I took Auburn.
And in the seventh I took Purdue and those are like I think the
fourth and fifth or the third and fourth teams on the list,
something like that. So, you know, it may be is that
too early to where you'd be doing that?
Because I also thought about doing it.
It even earlier like I think maybe the fifth and sixth in the
fourth and fifth or something. I was going to take the two top
MLS teams but I just took one. My thing with the early flexes
is I'm definitely willing to do it in the sports, where you feel
more comfortable, projecting, the final eight like one of the
ones that's really interesting for early flexes, NASCAR
because, like, they'll, but it's a little bit different now
because there are like some of the old guys haven't done as
well, the last couple years or some new guys but there's
typically been like a top eight to ten.
Ivers. And the final eight usually is
from that group because they're kind of like the lead drivers on
their teams and all the stuff. And so if you know you're going
to like kind of Bank points and also get two shots at getting
the 80 because they have a final race with only four guys qualify
for and whoever wins that race out of those four is the winner
and NCAA would be one of the ones that I would strongly not
and then probably have a lot of stuff in the second.
Most likely that I would want to do not like crap.
Hard time learning. That's like I've been drafting
the same two. MLS teams did every single one
of these. No one knows.
You just take the top two MLS teams on the one to turn and you
print money and it means the other.
Just it kind of goes to how, I don't know the same way, we
think about best ball strategy, right?
Like if you used an early draft pick, On you know Josh Allen or
Patrick Mahomes? Like you're not wanting to load
up on more quarterbacks. I do think in a lot of these
sports like if I'm using my pic on like the top one or two like
I've made my big bet and I don't necessarily want to like hedge
against a really big position where I'd rather take shots on,
you know, six seven Seed where I don't have a top guy.
That's what I, that's what I do. I use my flexes and a lot of
times in the middle rounds on sports, that I don't love the
top picks for like hockey's a good example.
A lot of times the very top teams, I mean they actually have
the lightning it, but the top Omnitech, the last two years and
won both years there, the two-time defending champs but
like the eighth hockey team of the tenth hockey team can win
the title. And so I'll probably take a
couple in that range and like, then I'm like, I got, you know,
and I know a lot of times what, you know, what grounds would
that be kind of like early double-digit, it depends kind of
on the draft but yeah, probably or a little bit earlier than
that, may be, but I'm kind of, like, I want two teams in the
tournament for hockey because we have an idea on the regular
season standings, like, who's going to be in?
I kind of often do two separate conferences as well, which I'm
sure a lot of people when they're flexing or thinking
about. Like now there's still at least
in a scenario where I can my two teams can meet in the
championship and I can get the 80 and the 50 whereas if you
take both from the Western Conference that they best are
going to meet in their conference Championship, right?
Baseball is another one like that that I like to do a couple
and MLS I like to flex but I like to wait and fly like the
tenth best team are the 11th. Best team in a little bit later
rounds. Another one said, how many
points have you need to win? Historically I've got that
question. Couple times.
We added some sports that we added a from one which puts more
points in the player pool but historically I'm like a 12-team
league. You're looking at like 300 to
350. I think this year like probably
in the 350 Side will win the 12 team leagues.
Somebody's going to really hit last year.
Paul won our ships and cup of tea was a 470 480 are 47.
Yeah. Just hold it up.
All. That's not the screen I wanted
to share the stream yard itself. Getting sleepy.
Don't share the stream we are. Yeah that's oh that one's
probably not representative of. But I mean if you want to win
the have the actual Trail. Yeah.
If you're in the Omni cup. I think someone's probably going
to hit 500 baseboard. The big board.
Oh, Geoffrey to know the Big Board of think is, you can get
us to. Yeah, that's it.
He had he hit on 12 of his 18 picks was the cool thing.
He only had 10 sexiest Euros, so he called me mash this.
Yeah. And I think that's tough to do
but I think he got a little bit unlucky, is it not?
And yeah, in terms of high-scoring I wouldn't say
unlucky but like he like some of these teams could have
potentially gotten even a little bit further like you could add
another runner up and boost it a few more point.
Like I think we'll have a 500 pointers when I'm saying there
also was an F1 in this contest. There is this year, so it's more
points available. I think we're going to have at
least one 500 pointer and might be 550 that you need to win the
whole thing. So like in the Omni cup, I
haven't Been flexing as much early as I normally do in
smaller leaks because I'm like, I'm trying to get every agent,
the nuts. Yeah, that makes I like the
addition of F1. I think it's made the the
first-round picks a little stronger.
That is true that the first round, it did seem like there
was more of a cliff last year, right?
If you push stuff towards the turn and stuff, right?
Yeah, that was sort of my feeling, that's why I kind of
like leaving it in after doing my first one with my college
buddies, because I think I mentioned this three F1 drivers
were on the first floor. Pics.
But then when you're picking later you're like it's a 16 teen
draft that one and there were still like good pics at 16 and I
was like yeah I don't hate that mean.
If people want to really Hammer the top-heavy sport, then it
pushes stuff down and you can get the Dodgers at 16.
Okay great. You know like they're the top
baseball team, that's cool. Yeah yeah.
Well, it sounds good. It sounds like I mean you guys
are going to probably do a show with me without me next week.
You'll probably be wrapped up with most of these drafts by
then I would hope so. Unless Pat and Liam have other
ideas. Yeah, I mean we you know most of
the drafts will be wrapped up for sure.
Hoping I'm hoping and anyone who's listening?
If you want to start your own draft, go for it.
The two things I would say one, you either want to try to draft
pretty quick and get done before next Tuesday or two maybe.
We consider not using Champions League because there's going to
be a result of finalizing like probably during your draft.
But broadly, we are kind of reaching the end of omni drafts.
He's a, you know, we'll probably check in with some updates over
time but this is sort of been our Omni month and we'll
probably be back with it like next February, you know.
Hey, life will come by, will come at you fast.
I actually do think that, you know, obviously watching the
sports and everything. You know, that's one of the
benefits of doing Omni get to like have some stake in the
sport. I actually think doing the
research on some of the sports is part of the fun too.
So that I really enjoyed. I've enjoyed Omni month.
Yeah, for sure. I've had fun.
I've been called managing the ship chasing Cup team with
Willis and it's been fun to bounce ideas off of him as well
and to load up on some teams that you actually are excited to
root for. Especially the World Cup that
has been. One of the teams are leagues
that I've wanted to have a couple just because I'm like,
it'd be fun to have a couple horses for the World Cup.
Yeah. Yeah, I actually I did you kind
of box yourself out when you take Brazil and every leaf and
interesting because I mean historically the winners, I mean
World Cup and Euro and some of the other soccer tournaments,
historically the winners are from the top countries like
yeah, I don't usually see massive upsets, but almost
everyone. You do see someone make a run.
Like, in Euro last year, we have Denmark make the semis Euro
before that or maybe it was two before that we had like way.
Also remember, when they had a Gareth Bale and a little bit
about soccer, he made the Run, he helped Wells, make the run to
the semis in the last World Cup. We had Croatia gold.
With the final, they almost did win it.
But France want it over Croatia. Oh yeah I remember that Croatia
year. Yeah, that was sweet.
Luca Matos think. Yeah, modern Ash, yeah, yeah.
That was a really fun year. So that is a fun one to have a
top horse or you're going for the 80 and also maybe take a
late and it's dark or, like I took, it took Uruguay and And my
first one and I'm kind of stoked about that.
Potentially they self to get in which is part of why their odds
are so long but they're pretty good.
I think about them potentially making a, you know, final eight
run. You can even pick team countries
like that and a lot of them are good enough to potentially make
a final eight run. So, all right, I'm gonna, I'm
gonna figure out some dark horses.
Everyone knows of dark horses, let me know because I don't
know, it's why it's a Brazil is the title is like Brazil's good.
I'll I read about Brazil, they've got like, you know, they
An score, they've got like Strikers and stuff.
I think they're like backfield or whatever is like aging, it's
not as good as it used to be. I'm like, great, please goals
are all I want. So it's it, it does explain why
I've been waking up to these DMS from you where you just say,
Ronaldinho, bitch. And I'm not Yeah, it's pretty
funny. So, yes, these guys will be
back. Next Wednesday without me to
recap Omni and I'll see what everyone else you guys get up
to. But most importantly, it means
you guys get a pack Karin, thumbnail next?
Yeah, exactly. I mean, you don't have to tell
people that you won't be here next week because they're gonna
see on the thumbnail that you were not here.
Yeah, it's tough. It's basically has come out now
to about twice a year. I normally go on a trip and
March and take a little time off of the summer and that's when
Pat does saw his investigate skills getting a live baby.
It's gonna be good already. Have an idea for this one.
I can't I can't wait to see that.
Anything else coming up from you guys been and Sean pumping out
stealing bananas episodes. I was on one last week.
Talking basketball, that was a lot of fun.
Anything else killer episode, if anybody hasn't heard that he
crushed it that was very fun. Anything else from you grad Pat
any Prospect articles coming we're going to be doing
tomorrow, I'm going to be talking to Eric proton who's at
the combine and we're going to be talking about the workouts
that are taking place tomorrow. So that podcast I'm recording it
11:30 tomorrow night and we're going to get it.
It out. So check your Chicken podcast
feed Friday morning we will be discussing the workouts from
Thursday awesome and also put in a plug hop, in the deposit
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that channel. Also have General best ball
Channel. We got Dynasty channels in
there. We got the omni-channel, all
kinds of stuff. If you're playing fantasy
there's probably a channel in there for you.
Appreciate you guys hanging out. As always on a Wednesday night,
good luck in your eye. Many drafts.
Good luck with your Debbie chasing.
Good luck with your Underdog drafts.
We will see you next time.