1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,560 Main event draft season rolls on with one of our favorite annual 2 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:09,200 traditions, drafting with Sean Siegel. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,360 We have the one O 9 tonight. It is sure to be a fun one. 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Lots of fireworks here. This is ship chasing with Pete, 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Ben, Pat and guess Sean Siegel. Let's do it. 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,520 Pat Fryer, Helmo This. Is what? 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,440 This is what I'm Pat. Anita hand job. 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,000 Fix your sight for. Jamar. 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:35,440 Alpha play Chase, you can't handle the heat. 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,520 It looks like we're finally at this point here, right? 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,400 All right, we got the crew here tonight. 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,000 We are off to the races. one-on-one pick is in. 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,840 Sean, welcome back to the ship chasing airwaves. 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,280 How you doing? Good, good. 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:01,120 I love my background in the little clip there, so that's 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,040 always. Fun it is it. 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,200 It seems so long ago that we got you to say piss boys on stream. 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,840 Yeah. So we have the 109 tonight. 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,160 We had the 109 last week with Davis. 20 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:21,160 We have a few one O 9 slots this year in our portfolio. 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,000 Sean, I know you said like for you there's a a a break after 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,640 the top nine. Is is that where you're feeling 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,040 good being at the making sure you're capturing one of those 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,800 guys? It is, it is. 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:39,200 I think that the guy we may have a shot at here is going to light 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,320 the world on fire and potentially be drafted at the 27 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:45,160 One O2 next. Season this is this is the way 28 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:51,280 to get him to fall tonight. But if he doesn't, there are 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,840 even better picks available. I didn't know that you. 30 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,600 That's how you thought about Devante Adams. 31 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,360 I thought you. Were, yeah. 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,560 It's, it's an unusual take for you, Sean. 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,120 I mean, he has been good for a very long time, but you know, 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,680 he's, he's older. So we see Bijon go off the 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,039 board. Did I hear you guys? 36 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,760 You guys took Bijon pretty early in one of your mains, right? 37 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:15,200 We did. We took him at one O 3. 38 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Well, nice. Yeah, we did that the other 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,960 night. That was our first main. 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,440 It was an interesting, it was, it was an interesting draft for 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,720 sure, but it worked out pretty well. 42 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,000 Sean was really excited about it and I apparently kept Pooh, Pooh 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,760 again, I was like, yeah, these things are kind of not the exact 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,960 one thing that I wanted. It's the second thing that I 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,000 wanted. We had like 5 targets fall 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,600 around below ADP. Ben wasn't having it. 47 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,640 Those we took, those are all good, but I wanted more good 48 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:48,600 things. So it does look like we'll get 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,520 one of the guys we expected to get CD Lamb, Amon Raw Chase, go 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,640 Lamb kind of the faller here by ADP with Breece, Bijan and 51 00:02:56,640 --> 00:03:01,000 Tyrique all going ahead of him, which is nice. 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,120 What we it was with Davis, we had the Amon Raw fall. 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,400 Right, which is a nice, nice value on him. 54 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,120 And here he is. Is this the Sean you wanna? 55 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:15,520 I assume this is the guy you're referencing, A.J. 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,240 Brown. I mean, he is your brand. 57 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,080 There was a 145 point difference in fantasy points over 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,760 expectation for Garrett Wilson versus CD Lamb last year. 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,120 We could potentially get that. Well, not reversed, but I'm 60 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,800 gonna close the gap a little bit. 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Garrett Wilson 102 next year. That's what we that's what we 62 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,880 said. Oh, it was me, not then. 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,080 Wasn't responsible for it. That was my projecting the 2025. 64 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:54,800 First round, I will. I'll read the Yeah, I'll read 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,040 the first part of an e-mail that Gretch sent on August 1st when I 66 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,720 said we got the nine slot for our draft on 8/22, Gretch says. 67 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Usually an annoying slot, but not gonna lie, that sets up 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,800 pretty damn fun. If you're an insane Garrett 69 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,680 Wilson truther it. Was August 1 the. 70 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,680 Prophecy has come true. Called the shot Babe Ruth. 71 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:15,920 I'm glad it worked out like this. 72 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,760 I mean, I, I didn't want to have the Jefferson versus Wilson 73 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,839 debate because that's, it's a tough spot. 74 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,240 I like that we, I mean, getting Garrett Wilson at 109 is, is 75 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,520 very nice, very, very happy about that. 76 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,640 I I think I would have been perfectly fine taking Jefferson 77 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,080 in that spot for the record pad. I mean, I, I don't know if I 78 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,040 said this on ship chasing yet We talked about it on. 79 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,880 Well, Sean had Jefferson second in the queue, so I think there 80 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,080 was going to be a little. Bit we're. 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,920 Going to have the conversation at the very least. 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,880 Sean might have might have had cared over Jeff. 83 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,280 I switched back after our our chat last time and then Davis 84 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:51,480 had some more notes for me. I switched back to Jefferson 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,160 over Wilson after we had our our fun debate on on ship chasing. 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,680 You talked me into it. Yeah, Davis is going to have 87 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,000 some notes on Jefferson for sure. 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,240 By the way, if you guys aren't on Twitter, you have to go see 89 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,880 the clip that. Just posted. 90 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,320 Earlier today when Davis said getting sniped on Savior Worthy 91 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,840 is how he imagined it feels to get shot in real life. 92 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,360 So we made a mini men. You want to for that the 1st to 93 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,360 mean that Davis is sometimes hyperbolic. 94 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:23,800 Yeah. Just a little. 95 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,280 Just a little. And the the best part of it is 96 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,520 you have the lyric in that song. Look to the sky no more. 97 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,760 And our incredible editor Zach, of course, spelled it Skyy. 98 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:42,440 Moore yeah, incredible stuff. When I saw that that was that 99 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,360 was crazy to me because I'm like he he was boxed into that song, 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,800 like David said, you know, he said every time I I get sniped, 101 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,320 I play many men. So he had to he had to use many 102 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,320 men and yet he found a sky mordic in there. 103 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,600 This is. So the turn these past 2 picks 104 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,720 have been pretty wild. So the 11 O goes JT, the 12 105 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,520 double taps running backs, Jamir, Gibbs, Kyron and then the 106 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,640 JT drafter comes back and takes Kelsey at 22 here generally 107 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,080 Laporta then going ahead of him. So we'll see what what the A.J. 108 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:24,200 Brown drafter does here. Now, I know we like the tight 109 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,960 ends here, but the receiver that's fallen to me, it just 110 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,480 should not be in the second round. 111 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,280 Devante Adams. Devante Adams, Yeah, he's 112 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:43,080 because he should be in. Probably the 4th. 113 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:51,360 Well, this the ten holes really bleeding the clock here I think. 114 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,800 I'm going to go out on a limb and say that tone of voice was 115 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,960 your deke voice or was that a very serious one? 116 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,400 No, I would. I would take puka. 117 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,280 You would take puka here. Absolutely. 118 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Sean has PUP ranked well ahead of Puka Nakua. 119 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,120 I would like to get our first MC rideshare personally. 120 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,000 OK, all right, fine. I, I don't understand the lack 121 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,160 of enthusiasm for a guy who just had the best rookie season ever. 122 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,800 It's it's very strange to me. I mean it to me like there are, 123 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,720 we've seen some of these rooms. What was it last week? 124 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,440 Where the pitch? No, I get, Yeah. 125 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Everybody came off the board and then you're we're scrambling. 126 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,720 I get, I get it structurally, I just, I don't know. 127 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,200 It's, it's just very, it's very strange to me. 128 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,920 It was it was nice for me honestly, because last last week 129 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,200 or two weeks ago we had Sak on and and you know, we had the the 130 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,840 legendary upside contingent. But there you wanted to start a 131 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,480 puka conversation. I could just say, well, Shawn, 132 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,680 Shawn has him second on his own team. 133 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,760 So we have, we have the guests. And Cooper Cup. 134 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,040 He has himself second, he says Cooper Cups the the one. 135 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,840 I think the the problem is that when you put up that kind of 136 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,440 season as a rookie, like it's just, it's, it's very likely 137 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,680 that you're a superstar and that that changes, that changes 138 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,160 things. But do you know that FFPC is 139 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,520 tied in premium sometimes? That forgets. 140 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,920 I I like to remind the chat, 'cause they do forget that it's 141 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,280 tied in premium. Yeah, yeah. 142 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Column and I took McBride at 1:10 in ours because we did get 143 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,880 walled off from both Garrett Wilson and Justin Jefferson. 144 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:43,960 So So now I have two Mcbrides. How many main events are you 145 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,160 gonna do this year? Sean I. 146 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:50,360 Don't know, I think maybe around 10, something like that. 147 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,600 You always like to save us too. Yeah, do some at the end, get 148 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,000 that late information, be able to still do the waivers. 149 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,720 Yes, and I'm sure a lot of people have already seen it, but 150 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,600 the zero RB countdown list has been posting. 151 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,360 We're down to the what? You just have the final 152 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,840 installment, right? Five through 1. 153 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,560 And that'll hopefully come out tonight. 154 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Was writing all day up until when we started here. 155 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,440 I got four of the five final blurbs done. 156 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,120 Awesome, My my favorite game to play, and I mean I've been 157 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,000 drafting with you all summer is trying to guess and I think I 158 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,880 went four of five, four of five and I might have just gotten 159 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,880 some of the orders wrong. But it's it's been fun because I 160 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,560 remember back in the day, it was like that was like the first 161 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:44,600 time you would kind of, you know, really reveal all of those 162 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,040 things. And I feel like we're lucky now 163 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,360 that you kind of you, you, you sprinkle the bread crumbs 164 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,320 throughout the the offseason a little bit more now. 165 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,320 Well, I tried to do, you know, just get the the Subs going as 166 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,720 well. Did the zero RV prep kit with a 167 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,320 looking at the 61 most relevant running backs. 168 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,520 And it's always interesting because a few names have popped 169 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,720 up and certainly joined that group recently looking at them 170 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,760 and the five components that we would kind of want to see to 171 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:17,680 figure out who is in the best position to really smash ADP. 172 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:21,840 So the the countdown, the 15 players is not the best 15 guys 173 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,800 or the highest scoring 15 guys after a certain point. 174 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,600 It's the best 15 plays after that point when you consider 175 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,440 Price, right? Because we only have a certain 176 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,920 number of picks in every round. And we also have to figure out. 177 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,680 You know. Who we're going to lose, maybe 178 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:40,240 even at another position, if we make that running back selection 179 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,960 and. Yeah. 180 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:44,400 It's always tough. It was certainly tough this 181 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,400 year. I think there were about 17 182 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,680 names in play. We may run into the hardest one, 183 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,160 the most controversial 1 to leave off kind of as we go 184 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,880 through. And there were certainly a 185 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,680 couple. Jordan Mason probably shouldn't 186 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:03,480 be on there. I sent it to Blair for editing 187 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,680 and he's like, if you if you need to make some revisions, I 188 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:08,800 prefer you put somebody else in. This is not a good point. 189 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Why? So Blair, so anti Jordan Mason 190 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,560 because he's not a 21 year old rookie. 191 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,320 I'm sure that has something to do with. 192 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,760 It Yeah, I mean, Kendry Miller did make the list, so I, you 193 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,800 know, I. I I like the Jordan Mason 194 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,440 inclusion I. Think I like the Jordan Mason 195 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,160 inclusion too. Patton is good to get. 196 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,640 Somebody who is going to be in a three-way committee when the 197 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,520 100% snap sure guy eventually goes down. 198 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,080 Oh no. 3 way it might be. Four, is that an Isaac Arendo 199 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,800 comment that you just made? I think it was a Cody Schrader 200 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,760 comment. I feel like he wasn't including 201 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,720 Debo, so we need to get the fourth name in there. 202 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:50,200 I tried to find the coaching might. 203 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,800 Include Kendra Miller, to be honest. 204 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,440 I mean, if they cut him perfect, more powerful, you know the lots 205 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,040 of teams need a starter. But the. 206 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,880 Problem is, I was talking about this the other day. 207 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,640 Like, if I didn't know what team Kendra Miller was on and you 208 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,840 told me he got cut, I'd be like, I hope he lands on the Saints. 209 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,400 That's just such a such a perfect spot for a for an 210 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,280 exciting young back to land on. And that's the reason that he's 211 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,440 on here, right, Is that either way, and like Ben says, he's not 212 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,960 going to cut, but either way, it's perfect because you're 213 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,480 either going to be behind a washed starter or. 214 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:30,360 Hey, some hills you're. Not. 215 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,000 You guys entirely up to to Dennis Allen, first of all, 216 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,040 whether he gets cut. Like the GM is obviously the one 217 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,240 who makes those decisions and and ultimately had the final say 218 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,880 in the draft selection as well. Dennis Allen's obviously 219 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,320 frustrated by the injuries, but I also think we're reading like 220 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,360 a little bit into just his personality type like that. 221 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,160 He's just like, I'm not saying that he's not upset about it, 222 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,200 but he's just like saying it as it is and people are like, oh, 223 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:02,680 he's kind of cut is, you know, just day two year 222 year old 224 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:04,640 running back is they're going to give up on their 22 year old 225 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,720 running back. I just feel like that's I think 226 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,240 he's just really disappointed that Kendry Milk is not been in 227 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,880 practice. What's that? 228 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,800 What do? You mean they're going to give 229 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,920 up on him? This. 230 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,720 This guy is so clearly already giving up on him. 231 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:21,240 No, I don't think that's true. I don't think it is either. 232 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,440 I think he's just an asshole. Like just a total. 233 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,000 Asshole. You're right, I think he's an 234 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,480 asshole and I think he's frustrated. 235 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,040 And he really does love Taysom, though. 236 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,440 I, I think one of the, the sneaky things there is I think 237 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Taysom's basically going to be running back this year. 238 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,320 Taysom's the backup running back I think. 239 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,520 Yeah. Make him see Yahoo. 240 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,560 Dennis Allen straight up. One schedule to be homeless at a 241 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:45,080 bare minimum. I mean it. 242 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,040 Feels like that. It does feel like that. 243 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,320 Yeah, Yahoo today changed Taysom to give him quarterback tight 244 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,960 end dual eligibility. There was a lot of excitement in 245 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,360 the Yahoo streets. Today I saw. 246 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,880 I got the question somewhere and I forgot to respond to it 247 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,800 because I didn't know how to like in that moment. 248 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,600 But one of my subscribers messaged me. 249 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:06,760 How much does he move up the ranks? 250 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,320 It's. Like, I don't know, pretty. 251 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,800 Far. Yeah, he's he's in like the one 252 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,960 30s I think on DraftKings where he has tight end eligibility, 253 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,800 which seems. I. 254 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Davis said to me he asked me it for underdog if he had tight end 255 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,160 and I said I thought he would go after Najoku and before got her 256 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,520 if he had tight end eligibility after how this offseason is 257 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,960 shook out. Well, draft. 258 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,800 So DraftKings, he has tight end eligibility. 259 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,360 He goes at 1:37, we have him at 1:30. 260 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,880 Yeah. And he would be a slightly 261 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,360 better play on underdog than DraftKings do. 262 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,880 He'd be so touchdown heavy. Yeah, yeah. 263 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,000 Oh, on Underdog and .5 PPR he would be yeah, but I mean, ahead 264 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,920 of Goddard, I'm just. Saying I'm not editorializing, 265 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,920 I'm saying I think that's where he. 266 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,000 Would that's where you think he would go? 267 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:00,640 Got it. OK. 268 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,680 Yeah, I think you're right. You think people would get that 269 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,080 stoked about it? That makes sense. 270 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,880 Yeah. I feel like that's, I don't 271 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,160 know, I think. He's had a pretty big role. 272 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,920 Has been pretty they all they do is talk about him. 273 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Right. All right, quick update here on 274 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,440 the first round or so after we took Trey McBride, Puka came 275 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,720 off, then Barkley, Marv, Derrick Henry, Dalton, Kincaid, a Chan, 276 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Drake, Lennon, Cooper Cup rounds out round two. 277 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,000 Round three goes ETN, Nico, Devante, Adams, Olave, Mike 278 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Evans, Mark Andrews comes off the board and we are up in a 279 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,640 couple of picks here and should have a a nice set of options. 280 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,600 My cat tried to murder me this morning. 281 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,760 That's great. What do you mean? 282 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Just decided to see this just like I've got my. 283 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,960 Eyeballs. I've got a mark here on the on 284 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,080 the eye for Murphy. We're messing around and he got 285 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,600 me freaking the eye. I was just like 5, AMI was 286 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,480 petting her. She was like so happy and then I 287 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,880 got up to go walk down to get coffee. 288 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,800 She doesn't really like when you walk with her, but she was so 289 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,760 calm with me sitting with her. When I got up, she was like. 290 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Wow. Get some. 291 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,480 I just realized Davis copied your name. 292 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,160 He announced that he's getting a puppy and naming it Murphy and 293 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,680 we were making that. He named it after Liam jokes. 294 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,160 Now I realize he's just copying. You. 295 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,440 It's just copying. Yeah, it's a great dog. 296 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,880 It's. Literally chasing Korain. 297 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,120 It's truly chasing Korain. Oh my. 298 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,160 God, although I name my dog Murphy, I'll win BBM. 299 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Yeah, I mean, that is the order of events. 300 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:43,640 I got Murphy in 2022, 2021 no 2021 Neighbors. 301 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,920 Goes some really nice wide receiver options. 302 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,240 Who do you guys like here? I really wanted. 303 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:54,160 Neighbors. I'd probably be Waddle. 304 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,040 Debo's also interesting. I like Waddle. 305 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,240 What do you like, Sean? I would go with Debo because it 306 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,520 potentially opens up more things, but it depends a little 307 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,720 bit on the fourth round positional preference. 308 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,319 I assume we'll. Still probably be wide receiver 309 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:12,520 in the 4th. That's what I would. 310 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,760 Think too, Yeah. Are you thinking something 311 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,079 different in the 4th? Not necessarily, yeah. 312 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:20,440 I know what you're saying now, yeah. 313 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,280 You want to do waddle and then keep that option a little more 314 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:31,440 open. Sure, I feel like this is. 315 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,920 A pretty nice price for Waddle, I mean is it is this close to 316 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,680 his current ADP right now? So in the last three days in 317 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:44,000 fantasy pros and main events it is debo AT2O8 waddle at two O 9. 318 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,200 So just right there, OK. Gotcha 23O3O8 and 309-3083. 319 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,040 O nine, yes, yeah. We, Sean, we took Debo on our 320 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,840 other one and then Pat and Pete and I also took Debo in one of 321 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,760 our in our slow. Is that right? 322 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,360 So yeah. I have taken. 323 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,640 Debo with all three of you once already, so it's nice to take 324 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,280 Waddle with you guys once as well. 325 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,720 I don't think I've drafted Waddle yet. 326 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:12,600 That'll do in my. 3rd depot, yeah. 327 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,800 And so this. Is another draft where I think 328 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,360 sometimes, because early on in main event season, I don't know 329 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:20,160 if it's still happening, is if this pits thing has pushed up. 330 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,680 But like early on you could generally get pits here in the 331 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,280 3rd and now it just doesn't seem to happen in any of our drafts. 332 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:32,600 He's at. 311 just in Maine's. He's also at 3:11, so OK. 333 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,160 So it is just our drafts. I mean, it kind of makes sense. 334 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,680 Yeah, it. Makes sense that he gets sniped 335 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,680 in ours, yeah? You know he's not coming back. 336 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Yeah. Jokes on all you. 337 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,960 Guys who keep taking him because he's Kyle. 338 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,800 Fucking bitch. Good luck have. 339 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,680 Fun with that this has all been a long time you get used draft 340 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,480 Kyle Pitts in year four if we end up with. 0% we can then just 341 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,680 be like, man, this is the worst pick on the board or he last. 342 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,080 Gave to me with this. Round three Kyle Pitts Guess we 343 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,800 didn't watch any football the last three years. 344 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,400 So we got. We got Collins at the four O 3 345 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,360 and which is like I don't think he got hurt in the last 30 346 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:27,360 minutes, but having Waddle and Collins together was fantastic 347 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,560 at the three. 4:00 You got Waddle and Collins. 348 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,400 It's crazy how that's nuts. Who can? 349 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,920 Fall wow, this tier wide receivers on you know, in Titan 350 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,000 premium and with the running backs going where they do, I 351 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,920 mean this tier wide receivers that like they go in the early 352 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,400 2nd on underdog, they fall all the way to the 3-4 on on the 353 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,040 yeah, I know I mean. I said it wrong at the 3:10 and 354 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,760 then the four O 3, it was four O 3 for Colin. 355 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,920 I mean the other one, yeah, four O 3 for Collins. 356 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,640 Fourth round. Collins, I will definitely go 357 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,120 ahead and believe he's going to be the wide receiver one for 358 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:04,960 them. The 12. 359 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,080 Holes now gone. Three straight running backs, 360 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,000 Jamir, Gibbs, Kyron and Pacheco. Very high. 361 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,200 T. Yeah, I think this. 362 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,320 Was what happened in the was it the one with Zack and and Draco 363 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,000 where I pointed out there was the team 11? 364 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,720 Was the all yellow? Yeah, it. 365 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,320 Was and I feel like. I've seen this the account name 366 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,000 was that this? Was it the same name? 367 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,040 Somebody in the chat go watch back to that real quick and tell 368 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,880 us report. Back because it might. 369 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Literally have been the same. The account name. 370 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,680 I've seen this somewhere, yeah. There it is, Pat say the line. 371 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Ah, this team. I think I believe that was the 372 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,680 5th running back when they grabbed a shot. 373 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Right. I think you're. 374 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,680 Right. Yeah, I don't. 375 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Know I can't remember it might have. 376 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,360 Been five straight so since we picked Debo win Pitman said 377 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:56,520 Pacheco. The turn guy does take DK 378 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,960 Metcalf, then Diggs comes off the board and we are on deck 379 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:07,400 here. I assume any of the players in 380 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,960 the queue, zero chance any of them come back, right? 381 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:17,080 So we can we can kind of talk it all out, Devante goes. 382 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,440 So Sean were. You, you said, Did Debo make 383 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,400 Kittle more attractive to you? Or less. 384 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,360 No, I, I. Would kind of prefer him and for 385 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:29,000 this to to be separated, so yeah. 386 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,280 I mean. McBride and Kittle I think are 387 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,960 the two best tight end plays and you can put them both together 388 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,520 here. I think you do want 2 elite 389 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,360 tight ends. The only other thing is you can 390 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:44,560 play it back to front and say, you know, maybe there's a 391 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,200 cheaper, still better tight end play, but I don't know that 392 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,800 you've got to go to that. The other pick here isn't going 393 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,360 to come back, but. The player. 394 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:59,280 Who might be the better play from that team might come back? 395 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,000 Right. All right, let's take Kittle. 396 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,680 I think the. Kittle, I think Kittle's very 397 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,080 fun. I I mean. 398 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,600 I would float a uke as well. I mean, I think you should at 399 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,760 least be named, but I I'm fine with Kittle. 400 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,880 Yes, is. Are you buried in there? 401 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,080 You got named. I didn't. 402 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,120 Even I didn't even see him. Where is he in this 80s? 403 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:21,760 We have 5. Seconds there he's he's just a 404 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,800 little bit after that OK that was a fair. 405 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,240 Float bat, but you got crickets. Yeah, I couldn't. 406 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,200 I mean, you know how Kittle's not going to score? 407 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,320 Like hardly any points most weeks? 408 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,640 It's because I you Quill. Unless the fact that he's not 409 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,120 showing up to camp actually effects this season, like we 410 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:45,440 talked about a little bit on the show, where like the years where 411 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,720 he's been locked in at this time, like last year have been 412 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,840 good, the years where he wasn't have been bad. 413 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,360 Aren't you worried a little bit? Well, it's the. 414 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,240 Classic thing, we're playing Trey McBride in the flax and and 415 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,360 George Kittle is our tight end had. 416 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:05,880 He not had the offseason than he did. 417 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,640 I think he'd be going more like where Kukocop and Nico Collins 418 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,520 went. So yeah, but I've been paid my 419 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,840 worries. You pay me and my worries go 420 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,240 away. That's how I generally feel, 421 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,800 right? The room pay me around and a 422 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,600 half, my worries suddenly feel so much better. 423 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,720 Is that what it? Felt like the way BBM you're 424 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,080 like you pay me if my worries go away. 425 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:33,400 I am now a millionaire. I want to move to San Diego. 426 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,920 Look at these worries. It's. 427 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Floating away I I. I like it with how many, you 428 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,680 know, we've had some spots in in the drafts where we have been 429 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,880 doing a lot of late tight ends and I think it'll be nice to be 430 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,200 able to flip some of those to to running backs or some wide 431 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,400 receiver darts. And. 432 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,560 And let everyone else trip over themselves to catch up at tight 433 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,000 end. The other IU thing is the with 434 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,320 this Datsun trade, people are, you know, just speculating 435 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,360 wildly that he'll now go to Washington. 436 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,440 That is the one spot this whole time where you'd actually be 437 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,720 like. Do I like this? 438 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,000 Better is. This actually. 439 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,120 Good. The. 440 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,880 The Steelers stuff was obviously like, man, that's the volume is 441 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,760 just such a concern. Obviously it's a rookie 442 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,200 quarterback and you lose Shanahan, so it could be pretty 443 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,600 bad, but there's a path to upside there. 444 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,440 Yeah, the Jayden Daniels bromance thing, along with them 445 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,480 moving Datsun has everybody riled up about that. 446 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,160 And then Pretty Ricky was out tweeting again that Iuke hasn't 447 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,040 been at the facility for a little while. 448 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:50,600 I, I was like you mentioned, now you might be going to the 2-3 449 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,560 turn. I mean, I was, I've been pretty 450 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,440 out on him all offseason, so I'm probably a little biased, but 451 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,840 and, and getting even more negative once you get paid off 452 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,680 on it a little bit. But I thought he was overpriced 453 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,280 for most of the offseason anyway, which like we may never 454 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,040 really know if that thesis was correct, but the the volume 455 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,240 stuff, even if he goes back to San Francisco, still a bit of a 456 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240 problem. And the way that he won last 457 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520 year was a three plus yards per out run, which is. 458 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,200 Hard to. Describe in terms of how good it 459 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,440 is. You know how good it is, though, 460 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,880 Pat? Like you like AJ Brown's been 461 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,360 2.5 plus every year of his career, but he's never been 462 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,560 three because that's a really fucking amazing season of 463 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,840 efficiency. And if Iuke's not on point, 464 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,120 that's his whole thing, is that he was like hyper efficient. 465 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,120 Yeah, but we. Know, you know, efficiency helps 466 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,480 deliver volume and there's like there's sort of a hyper precise 467 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,920 thing going on in San Francisco where they can like they don't 468 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,080 have to open it up like ever because they're too good. 469 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,440 But like maybe that breaks down in certain games and you have a 470 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,680 guy. Anyone who can do that is 471 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,840 absolute filthy talent. Like that is someone I want to. 472 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,280 It's true. You. 473 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,800 Know. I I think. 474 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,520 It is it, it is a good though like best ball versus managed 475 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,240 conversation. And I think you can talk about 476 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,800 it with Kittle too. But obviously the positional 477 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,720 stuff I think pushes Kittle to be the preferred pick. 478 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,720 But like I could see IU, you know, similar to last year being 479 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,480 kind of a headache of knowing when to start because you are 480 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,520 playing that carousel element for sure. 481 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,640 Yeah, I definitely can see that. I mean he gets like, you know, 482 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,600 he might get like 5 targets in a game. 483 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,080 Yeah, like a fair. Amount a third of his games. 484 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,080 Yeah, it. Gets it. 485 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,920 It's frustrating. It can be. 486 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,840 It can be pretty frustrating. Sean, have you had in any of 487 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,040 your mains? Have you had two tight ends 488 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:51,520 through 4 rounds in any of them? No, because there's there's 489 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,960 another guy. We're about to have three 490 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,040 through 5. He's had he had two through five 491 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,400 or two through 6. There's a lot of reason to 492 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,480 believe IU benefits from what the other guys forced the 493 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,160 defense to account for. He just wouldn't be the same 494 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,440 player now. He'd still be a very good 495 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,960 player, but you make that change this late in the year. 496 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,400 I think that would be, you know, again a concern when you're 497 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,280 talking about in a range where there are. 498 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,240 Other good names? I mean Debo should have always 499 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,760 been going ahead of him. Debo has more paths to fantasy 500 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,240 scoring and fantasy success, and George Kittle is probably the 501 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,040 most talented tight end in the NFL. 502 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,960 And so I think you're making a stronger talent bet on the other 503 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,560 two players. But, and that's not like any 504 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,400 kind of big criticism of IU because again, you don't put up 505 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,440 those numbers unless you're also very, very good. 506 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,920 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I believe that. 507 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,000 I I think if anything, IU probably opens up stuff for the 508 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,360 other guys a little bit more than they open up stuff for him. 509 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,440 He's. He's the. 510 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,360 He's the really, really good route runner. 511 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,040 You know, if you look at like who can actually win downfield, 512 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,720 Ayuk is your best bet there. So I think he creates for 513 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,840 himself the most of that big three. 514 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,320 I think that he. Benefits from the same thing 515 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,880 that the Packers receivers that we wouldn't put in the same 516 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,160 conversation benefit from which is the ability of the coach to 517 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,840 get the guy open. And then you've got to there's 518 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:32,320 just Samuel and Kittle are such extraordinarily unique talents 519 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,000 that if you don't account for them and again, as you're 520 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,800 pointing out, there's a huge value to that receiver who can 521 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,960 actually get open down the field. 522 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880 Lots more guys you can just get the ball to and, and ask them to 523 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,360 run. But the problem is that most 524 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,120 guys when you get the ball to them and ask them to run, they 525 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,720 can't do anything like what Kittle and Samuel do. 526 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,840 So it it works both I. Agree. 527 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,080 I agree, but I think that you know there's a reason why Kittle 528 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080 disappears for games on end because it's like. 529 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,160 What it what? Is the sustaining element of the 530 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,480 offense that kind of keeps the defense on their heels. 531 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,520 It's the ability to win downfield, attack downfield. 532 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,680 I think if we get a. Healthy season from Kittle, 533 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,720 which may never happen. You're just going to see, I 534 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,240 mean, he's very much in the mix to be the overall tight end one. 535 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,440 He's got the talent for it, for sure. 536 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,360 He's got the talent and could have the offensive environment. 537 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:31,440 It's like we know. I mean, is he the only tight end 538 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,400 with contingent value? Like he he really does have 539 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,120 contingent value other than maybe Isaiah Likely Kittle. 540 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,080 Yeah, when when it funnels to him, he he soaks up that extra 541 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,800 volume and with no issues I would say. 542 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,560 Pat, if Troutman and Kroll get hurt, Greg Dulcich could happen. 543 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,560 Yeah, Greg Dulcich has. To debate too, there's a late 544 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,840 note today, Michael. Mayer. 545 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,040 Hate to say. It. 546 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,000 But yeah. That's so since we took Kittle 547 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Ingram came off the board, Rashad White, Ayuke does go at 548 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,640 47, James Cook is a Flowers, Josh Allen's our first 549 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,160 quarterback off the board at 4:10, DJ Moore. 550 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,640 And then the turn from the one hole goes David Najoku and Hurts 551 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,640 into the middle of the 5th. A4 wide receiver start took Josh 552 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,560 Jacobs. Rashi Rice, who we were taking a 553 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,800 look at there for a second, went at 5 three and then T Higgins 554 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:32,800 comes off the board at 5 four. Yeah, Rice going's a bummer, but 555 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,960 we knew. We knew that would happen. 556 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:41,360 Yeah, yeah, definitely want to get some exposure to him now we 557 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,640 have missed. In all the drafts. 558 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,560 So far, yeah. Sean wanted to take him in ours. 559 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,480 I wanted to take Kittle at 4:10. Thought we could pass him around 560 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,200 to five O 3. He went at 4:12. 561 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:58,880 I want to say it's annoying this guy at five O 3 gets him. 562 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,760 What the hell? Yeah, I mean he. 563 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,040 Is at least on on underdog. He has just been on a rocket 564 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440 ship. ADP wise, yeah. 565 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,800 Early 4th now. He's a moved in this he went at 566 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,680 four O 1 in one of my two previous ones. 567 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,560 Yeah, I moved him up today because we had kind of the ADP 568 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,920 still pulling him down actually. And I was just like this. 569 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,360 I'm not seeing him. I was doing a bunch of puppies 570 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,640 just multi tabling and like I was getting 0 rice. 571 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,920 Yeah. So I'm, I'm, I'm just going to 572 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,760 start taking the early 4th. I'm sick of it. 573 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,840 Just sick of not getting him. I was at like 25% rice at one 574 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,360 point. Now I'm like probably 15. 575 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,440 I just the the rise has been so dramatic. 576 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,320 Yeah, Kenneth. Walker or so after Higgins 577 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,840 Mahomes goes unstacked to the five hole, Kenneth Walker and 578 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,680 then Kamara and then we are on deck here. 579 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,800 The Jefferson Puka Neighbors Ingram team is on the clock. 580 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,440 And. Four Greece in the chat asking 581 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,960 the hard hitting questions. Are any of you picking Diami 582 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,040 Brown now? We're not to that portion of the 583 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,120 show. I did my. 584 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,840 I did my diama here. That's the one of the gun you. 585 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400 You've done your. Service I I took Diaby. 586 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,600 Brown with Ray G on best ball breakfast before the trade. 587 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,560 We were looking like the the Oracles. 588 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,120 All right, we are on the clock here. 589 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,800 I love. Two of the wide receivers in the 590 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,360 queue. I only need 20. 591 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,160 I see two I like. I like tank. 592 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,760 Tank would be my bet. I love tank. 593 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,600 I think we can. Get them both if we go that way. 594 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,400 Let's go tank, yeah? Antos. 1:00 and 2:00. 595 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,360 So we start. Garrett Wilson, Trey McBride, 596 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,960 Jalen Waddle, George Kittle and Tank Dell it. 597 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,840 Is another. Like weird quirk, right? 598 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,520 Of like just thinking of how the wide receivers are clustered on 599 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,360 underdog here. I mean, so many wide receivers, 600 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,720 I guess not a ton. What, 3/4 of them go after go or 601 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,480 sorry go. Yeah, go after tank on underdog, 602 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:31,360 but he's sliding here. Higgins Rice, I guess Diggs and 603 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,720 him are close, goes after him there's. 604 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,880 Like an element of, you know, with tank Del, I think you're 605 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,400 going to have to ride out some disappointing weeks. 606 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,600 But like, I think the highs with him could be so high that 607 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,080 there's it's not like you're going to miss the spike weeks 608 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,760 because you'll just you'll just start him. 609 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,840 You know, he's if he breaks out like I think he can like you 610 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,000 just have to you just have to roll with it. 611 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,280 And in this is our third receiver. 612 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,680 He fits that really nicely. Like we for starting him. 613 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,880 Yeah, Amari. Terry, come off the board. 614 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,199 Sean, where, where are you at on tank these days? 615 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,199 I like him. I don't get a lot just because 616 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,639 it can be a little tricky structurally. 617 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:27,080 I do like digs, but I mean the argument for all three guys is 618 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,880 so strong that I think you have to look at it from a full team 619 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,880 perspective and say. I mean. 620 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:38,080 You need to get all of them. You need to expect them to be 621 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,840 incredibly dynamic. Dell is the guy who is going to 622 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,040 need the least amount of actual work to score points. 623 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,480 So it works perfectly because he's probably going to get the 624 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,880 least amount of work. But if he didn't? 625 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,639 He would. Score so many points. 626 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,880 You're talking about him in round one next year. 627 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,680 So I mean, he he shouldn't be here. 628 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,120 I don't know that there are a ton of receivers that went ahead 629 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:08,160 of him that I would necessarily say like you have to take him 630 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,160 over that guy. There are players of their 631 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,440 positions. I think you have to take that, 632 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,480 take me a little bit. You're not taking Camaro over. 633 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,800 The other thing too. Like you think you talk about 634 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:25,160 the Sprint. Oh wow, Brock Bowers goes. 635 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,080 Which means I think we're for sure taking Xavier. 636 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,080 That makes them very. Easy I. 637 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,320 Think Xavier. Worthy. 638 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,480 Yeah. Yeah. 639 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,000 The the the plus side is we get Xavier worthy. 640 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,800 The downside is you guys don't get to watch me pretend to get 641 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,600 shot right as Xavier. Do you want to play the? 642 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,560 David, you want to play the Davis clip for the people? 643 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,840 I don't have it. In I don't even have it in here 644 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,440 I should have. That would be great, but I if. 645 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,040 I said we're going to get them both when I when we were like 646 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,080 clicking on Tank Dell and then I was watching the next couple of 647 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,600 pixby receivers. I'm just praying, panicking. 648 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,480 And then names like Terry Maclaurin, George Pickens and 649 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,680 Christian Kirk went and it's like, well, I'm wrong all the 650 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,920 time. Those three guys will probably 651 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,920 score more points, but if one of the that foursome scores like 652 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,480 gains 400 more yards and scores 75 more fantasy points than the 653 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,480 rest of the group, it's going to be savior worthy. 654 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,240 Now Sean, when we did best ball breakfast on Monday, you were 655 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,560 fudding Xavier Worthy. You're telling me he made all 656 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,240 these mistakes and that we need to just chill out on him? 657 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:33,040 Are we back to being in on? Savior worthy? 658 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,080 Well. Maybe that made the one. 659 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,760 That's why we got it. To get. 660 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,800 Here I titled the show 5 Reasons to be Cautious about Savior 661 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,280 Worthy. That's not. 662 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:47,200 The the Internet for Google to try. 663 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,960 And push through, do you? Do you think there's anything to 664 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,720 the idea that Worthy is actually worse than Best Ball in the 665 00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:58,360 sense that obviously, you know, he's got this downfield profile, 666 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520 so that makes no sense, but. Like. 667 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,720 It's kind of potentially quite binary, like either this guy's 668 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:07,480 like this. Pretty. 669 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,760 Overpriced kind of spike week dude. 670 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,400 Or he is, he's the dude. And if he's the dude like you 671 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,520 should just the the potential that he could be that guy makes 672 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,880 him worth such a, you know, that big swing worth it in the sixth 673 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,680 in a way where, you know, the the lack of production risk that 674 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,440 you're taking on a baseball kind of hurts your your portfolio a 675 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,440 little bit more. Yeah, I think some of these 676 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,720 guys, Jake Bose had a great article out. 677 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,680 I know there's obviously plenty of other great research out 678 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,760 about zero percentage and how much that crushes you and so. 679 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,200 If you. Think that there is that risk, 680 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,240 then you want to, you know, at least be aware of your exposures 681 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,600 when you're drafting a basketball team on this roster 682 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,000 here I. Mean if you shot Dante. 683 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,440 Was going to be. There's not zero risk and Xavier 684 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,240 worthy. I was like. 685 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,600 If you think there's that risk is is doing a lot of work there. 686 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,360 He was like, what? What is the premise? 687 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,480 Of the question, the premise. Is I guess so I, I just wrote 688 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,200 this article on rookie receivers and it's like, I actually wonder 689 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,560 if we're we are pricing up. Here's what I I came away with 690 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,160 the thinking that we're sacrificing something in best 691 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,160 ball with the rookies. The way they are priced now, it 692 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,960 doesn't necessarily mean they're bad picks, but they're probably 693 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,480 going to hurt. They're more like elite tight 694 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,840 ends, right where they're like you're betting that these guys 695 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,480 are such studs down the stretch that you really want them in the 696 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,920 play offs, but they probably hurt your advance rates at these 697 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,720 prices. The the guys going in like, you 698 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:42,600 know, the top seven rounds. I agree with that, yeah. 699 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,440 So that's. Kind of, I mean. 700 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,920 I've been trying to get a little bit of Marvin Harrison because I 701 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,200 mean, I watch all the games, but you know, living here in 702 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,000 Arizona, I mean, I think he's going to be awesome. 703 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,120 I don't want to be every week watching and thinking like, 704 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,720 don't like, don't throw it to Harrison. 705 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,360 Don't throw it to Harrison. That'd be a horrible way to have 706 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,880 the season go. But his price makes absolutely 707 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,600 no sense. He should probably be going 708 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,200 after Malik Neighbors. This is going to sound ludicrous 709 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,200 because I mean ADP is does understand a lot of information 710 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,960 obviously, but I guess I don't think I. 711 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,240 Don't think he's going to. House score, Xavier worthy by 712 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:22,200 that much. And so if you believe that, I 713 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,720 mean, Xavier worthy I think can still smash. 714 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,120 I mean the other guys, you have a lot of risk, but with 715 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,360 neighbors and Harrison, they've got a score right from the 716 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,160 beginning. We kind of think that they will, 717 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,240 but yeah, those prices, those guys. 718 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,240 I mean they. They're not great picks. 719 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:41,480 So this. You're not in our. 720 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,880 Neighbors. No, I am. 721 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,120 I mean, I think even that one round is a difference. 722 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,360 I think the reason that Harrison goes where he goes is because 723 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,680 it's kind of this stealth, really soft part of the draft 724 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,720 and. By stealth, do you mean the 725 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,760 everyone's complained about it for three months? 726 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,080 Yeah. Well, the whole 2nd. 727 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,880 Round is very flat. That's the rule of of content 728 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,960 this year. How about? 729 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,560 This. Oh, go ahead. 730 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,280 No, go, go ahead. Pee. 731 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,680 Oh no, I I I was going to say take away the take a peek angle. 732 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,760 What is our starting? Our starting. 733 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,720 Lineup. With what we have so far, who's 734 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:30,880 the odd man out? I think in week. 735 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,800 One, it's maybe worthy, but. But I mean we have to take a 736 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,080 peek angle. I know when I said. 737 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,160 Take that off the table I want. I don't want that. 738 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,280 Part. Exercise. 739 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,600 Would be worthy I think in week 1. 740 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,600 Yeah, in Week 1. Yeah, Sean, like it would be. 741 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,200 Waddle Sean's like. You're damn right. 742 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:48,920 Like take a. Peek. 743 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,360 Shell's like we got to see. How Aaron Rodgers looks Garrett 744 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,240 Wilson before we get by. Garrett Wilson over. 745 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,000 To you, Yeah, the someone in the Chapman wattle. 746 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,040 Is going to, you know, be injured on the 1st 5 plays and 747 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,440 so I'd like him to play a while and show that he's going to play 748 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,800 last. Year Sean, people know Sean and 749 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,640 I had a team that finished really high in the tournament in 750 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,280 week 16. We had Waddle and and I think 751 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,360 Tyreke was out or or banged up and he had a long catch early in 752 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,040 the game. And Waddle was our like low 753 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,400 owned leverage piece near the top of this of the main event of 754 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,360 this tournament and he didn't do anything after that catch. 755 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,160 And Sean has not stopped talking about it. 756 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,560 He's brought. It up like for every month. 757 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,800 Since we've we've. Since. 758 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,840 But listen, I like. Noel was never going to get 759 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,880 proof for that either. Like every game he and he'll 760 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,840 come to the sideline and act like they're out and then they 761 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,560 go back in and it's just it's great that they go back in, but 762 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,920 it is a heart racing experience. It is tricky. 763 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,280 I was going to point out someone in the chat mentioned that Team 764 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,320 10 is literally called Brock and roll something. 765 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,000 So the Brock Bowers pick, we maybe should have seen that 766 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000 slightly more. Yeah, that's. 767 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,080 That was coming. In hindsight, it's a good thing. 768 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,320 We didn't build the team around getting Brock Bowers on the 769 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,640 sixth, Yeah. All right, since we took Xavier, 770 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,920 we saw Lamar Jackson go Ridley, Godwin, Friarmouth in the sixth 771 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,440 round here, Jane Reid, Deontay Johnson, Roma Dunze, Keenan 772 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,080 Allen, Hollywood Brown, David Montgomery, Javonte Williams and 773 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,240 Anthony Richardson as we enter the middle of the 7th here. 774 00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:36,100 The funniest part of that Waddle story is that every time the 775 00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:38,540 chat's talking about it, but every time Sean would bring it 776 00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:41,100 up, I'd be like Week 17 because we're still in good position. 777 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:44,800 Week 17, but you were like acutely aware that if we would 778 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,040 have gotten more out of waddle than week 16, we could have been 779 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040 in really good position, we could have been leaning it in 780 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:54,760 week 17, which would have been. Would have been nice, yes. 781 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,920 They he's going to snipe us on Brock birdie now too. 782 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,520 For the full Brock and Roll correlation, I. 783 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:11,480 Do love that. All right, so Godder goes to the 784 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,760 Friar Muth drafter, catching up at tight end, then James Connor 785 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,320 comes off the board. Two more picks and we are up 786 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:18,800 here. I. 787 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,720 Love this goblin of the chat. At first glance, looks like a 788 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,360 wide receiver room with a combined weight of 400 lbs. 789 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,440 Who's the big? Receiver, is it? 790 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,600 Is it Wilson or is it? Waddle, our biggest, I think 791 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,360 it's. Waddle the. 792 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:42,960 Biggest What was the? Take no pun intended, we used to 793 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,760 be. We used to be a. 794 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,880 Team big receiver on Monday. Pete. 795 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,880 I know we. Drafted I called it. 796 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,120 Like the slim Reaper team. It had Devante Smith on it too. 797 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:57,080 Just all the skinny slender dudes JSN goes. 798 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,080 Do you guys? Want to lock up the stack the 799 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:05,160 the digs Drafter is behind us and would have two cracks at we 800 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,400 have Stroud. We have McBride as well. 801 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,080 Mm hmm, so that's another stack. What do you like, Sean? 802 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,880 Well, I don't necessarily think we have to take either of them, 803 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,520 but certainly losing JSN is kind of a heartbreaker there. 804 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,160 I mean my. Argument on Dell and the rest of 805 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,160 those guys I. Think Stroud. 806 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,760 Is going to have an extraordinary season and and 807 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:36,160 Tank and him together, probably better than McBride and Kyler 808 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,160 together in terms of what you would actually want them to do 809 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,960 during the race. Like in the Sprint, Yeah, 810 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,000 wanting a little more rushing from Kyler. 811 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,960 I'm down for Stroud. I, I mean, I, I would. 812 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,400 Is this our first Stroud? No, we took, we took Stroud 813 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,760 over. JSN against your recommendation 814 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,600 and Dave has talked about the rest of the stream. 815 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,720 Didn't like that and now we don't get JSN here. 816 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,640 It's different. I was going to say it's 817 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,880 different than that decision because in that one we pushed 818 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,840 JSN. It did bite us a little in this 819 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,640 one. I mean, the other guys in our 820 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,600 queue are running backs, but there's like seven other running 821 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,920 backs that we could take. I, I think JSN was kind of the 822 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,120 last receiver in this group. And so if we're going to go 823 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,720 running back anyway, it's like, why would we even, I mean, same 824 00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:15,720 thing you're saying, Pat, about the Kyler thing, but I don't 825 00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:18,760 think there was, it was flat elsewhere is I guess the point 826 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:24,960 that I would have driven home. Yeah, yeah, that. 827 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,240 JSN pick is a bummer. It was a brutal. 828 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:34,320 Brutal pick there, yeah. Aaron Jones, DeAndre Swift come 829 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,960 off the board. So you guys think? 830 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,760 In running back here. We could I. 831 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,160 Mean, I like these receiver this next group receivers a lot more 832 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,560 than you guys, I think. I think they're. 833 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,880 Viable for sure. I just, I mean, I guess you you 834 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,160 probably have them with JSN. You do that as well. 835 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,480 Yeah. I mean, I'm, I don't know, I. 836 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,560 I only get like 13%. I guess I'm not as high, but I 837 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,600 would I'm like 13%. Like, yeah, I'm, I'm taking 838 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,280 plenty, but yeah, I just think these guys are in the same tier 839 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,680 as him. That's like I'm. 840 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,160 Not accurate on it if that's the. 841 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:23,640 I haven't lost my mind. Yeah. 842 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,960 It's, it's one of those weird trippy things where it's like, 843 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,720 yes, it does feel like the start of the running back tier, but 844 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:33,200 we, I mean they are going to get vacuumed up over the next 20 845 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,320 picks too. Yeah, my. 846 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,880 Favorite receiver pick won't come back, but this is a really 847 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,960 strong range for running backs and I think they're just going 848 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,440 to all get compressed into that same spot and none of them will 849 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,640 come back. Yeah, that's what. 850 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,240 I've. I wonder. 851 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,720 Sean put it in the private chat who your favorite receiver pick 852 00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:02,160 would be. If if you don't mind, I think I 853 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,200 Oh no. Is he in the queue? 854 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,520 You. Could put him in. 855 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,680 The queue. Yeah, let's put him. 856 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:13,480 In the queue. So, Kyler. 857 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,440 Does go. At the. 858 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,960 Turn, they grab Christian Watson, the DeAndre Swift 859 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,720 drafter grabs Romandre and we are on deck. 860 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,320 Naji goes. So anyone we want here? 861 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,760 I would. Yeah, I would be with Sean on 862 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,120 the OR Sean's receiver. I think you're leaning running 863 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,760 back, but I would. That would be my pick too. 864 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,200 Yeah, that would be my preference as far as the running 865 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,880 backs go. I think. 866 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,920 I'm still Warren here. If we're not going Warren, we 867 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,720 could go with the other injured guy, but I'm not the guy at the 868 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,160 top of the. I don't know. 869 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,560 I mean, I guess as far as like a talent level bet, I just have 870 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,600 such less faith in him I would be. 871 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,600 Most hurt of brown that running back and I'm Mcconkey over Brian 872 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,280 Thomas, so I I'm in I would be I. 873 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,480 Would take Mcconkey over those two running backs. 874 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,040 Sean's gonna have. To click because we don't have a 875 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,520 consensus. I'm Brown, who do. 876 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,160 You. Who do you like? 877 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:16,760 Pete Chase Brown. Let's do. 878 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,960 Chase, I, I, he'd be right up there for me too. 879 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,040 Sean's down to the top of the queue. 880 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,480 It sounds like Pat's the only one that's out on him. 881 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,840 Yeah, I don't think he's like he, yeah. 882 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,440 I don't know. It just feels like I flipped 883 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,800 all. I flipped all four of them 884 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,280 through as everybody was talking and we got back to the two brown 885 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,960 boats. I would have pushed harder for 886 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,000 him, except I do already have a lot. 887 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,840 I think that, I think that all of the, I mean all of the picks 888 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,480 there are really strong. Yeah, that's the. 889 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,240 Problem it's like when you're not going to be able, you're 890 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:48,960 only going to be able to get one of those dudes. 891 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,560 Pat, what's? What's the like when we last 892 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,400 talked about Brown, I, I, I, I believe it was you or maybe it 893 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,240 was someone else. So correct me if I'm wrong. 894 00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,720 Maybe it was when I was talking to Jacob, but the argument was 895 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:02,080 that he's not a good runner. And I've, I've heard this a 896 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,400 couple of times. And I mean, I just kind of want 897 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,160 to push back on that. The guy was like a a workhorse 898 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,200 at Illinois and in the Big 10 against some good run defenses 899 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,360 in like November in the Midwest, he had 25 plus touches in a 900 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,560 dozen games and he was running. He got 120 total yards in every 901 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,840 single one of those games. In college, like every time he 902 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,640 got big work he got he showed an ability to get 120 plus. 903 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,600 I don't understand how you could do that if you can't hit read 904 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,160 holes. It's just. 905 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,600 Like I I mean I. Don't, I'm not, I don't. 906 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,240 This isn't a film evaluation. I don't know. 907 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,960 I I have seen him bounce stuff to the outside and it does look 908 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,320 like not great to me but. It's. 909 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,360 Like a pre season run that's not really where what's driving. 910 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,480 I mean, like, I'm so I wasn't in on brown enough when he was 911 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,680 cheap, which was a mistake. And I made an effort to correct 912 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,560 that at prices that works more similar to like Brian Robinson 913 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,400 pretty aggressively. Like when he was in the, you 914 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,960 know, around pick 100, I was hammering him to make sure that 915 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,760 I never had to do this. It's kind of like what I, you 916 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,280 know, I basically don't, I don't want to chase him up to where 917 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,760 I'm really having to bet on him as a talent because he was a day 918 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,560 three guy in my stuff. He came out as like a third 919 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,480 round rookie pick type of prospect. 920 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:19,640 Yeah, he he was he was used I think in one season pretty 921 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,200 heavily. Not very efficient, kind of a 922 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,400 chunk, an undersized chunk play runner, which is always a bit of 923 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,880 a concerning archetype. Not really like a big receiving 924 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,800 efficiency guy, although he's versatile. 925 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:36,840 So you could see him be used in kind of a chiriny way, but you 926 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,400 know, like J JS model. He he didn't come out all that 927 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,440 great in and then his year two stuff, he you know, it was not 928 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,280 promising because he was used like not at all as a rookie, 929 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,720 which is, you know, not a great sign. 930 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:51,560 So a lot of these guys we see we see them even if they're day 931 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,600 three guys, the guys that we get excited about, they come in and 932 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,560 they really flash over, you know, a bigger than expected 933 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,160 sample and if you show me that I'm down, But he didn't he 934 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,920 didn't really do that. He he had a few nice plays. 935 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,840 So he's just like a a guy that I would want a couple rounds 936 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,480 cheaper than this is all. I think it's a good. 937 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,520 Take, I mean he's a day three guy didn't really play much in 938 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,840 his first year. I think the context of like Zach 939 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,280 Moss only being a two year like $8 million, four million per 940 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,960 year guy with three million guaranteed matters and the up 941 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,400 the. Upsides there, like I think he's 942 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,440 like a great I I was really kicking myself for not hammering 943 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,280 him when he was like at 125 like that, but I think the best. 944 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,400 Ball, I think the the market stuff is more best. 945 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,120 Ball Brain Pat. I mean, we're in a main event. 946 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,080 All of these guys are going to be gone by the next time, I 947 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,560 think. Jalen Warren's one of the best 948 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,880 running backs in the league. Like I, I think he's one of the 949 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,280 best running backs in the league. 950 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,520 He's shown that. And he's got a hamstring injury 951 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,160 that's going to keep him out for a week or two. 952 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:53,000 So what like I, I just, when we gets up to this price, I think 953 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,240 we're just applying a lot of hope to a situation. 954 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,560 The fact that he's on the Bengals and the fact that the 955 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,960 depth chart is open, but I don't have the confidence in the 956 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,800 talent profile to justify this price. 957 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,520 Yeah, I think. There's a lot. 958 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,320 I mean, I don't think Jalen Warren is going to need a Naji 959 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,400 injury to be able to fully take over that backfield in a way 960 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,320 that isn't going to be the case for Chase Brown. 961 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,640 To fully take it over, that's and I think it's a. 962 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,400 Way more valuable backfield. I mean the Bengals backfield. 963 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,640 And on A0RB team, we we really don't want to take a zero the 964 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,960 first week or two from our RB1. I mean, we'll. 965 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,680 Suck if P Ryan lands there. I I believe Sean and Blair had a 966 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,640 team where they they scored twenty points for Malcolm Brown 967 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,840 in the in the week 1. So we we can, yeah. 968 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,520 But if you're breaking ties with it a. 969 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,840 Tier, but I don't. That's I guess what. 970 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,920 I'm saying is I don't think Chase Brown is in this tier, but 971 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,160 if you're going. To play the market based 972 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,960 element, then it with the chase brown angle, then you should 973 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,160 play it the other way and know that you're getting cheaper 974 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,760 prices on Jalen Warren right now. 975 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,720 In a. Managed situation where I really 976 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:03,720 want to emphasize betting on the talent as opposed to getting, 977 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,240 you know, slightly better prices or slightly worse prices. 978 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,080 I really feel that these two talent profiles are not similar. 979 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,880 One is very strong and 1:00 is pretty much a question complete. 980 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,680 It's incomplete. Way too confident that he's bad. 981 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,760 I'm not, I'm I don't think he's bad, you said the talent 982 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,320 profile. Is different, but we don't know 983 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,600 it's incomplete. We don't know the gap. 984 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,400 My argument would be that Chase Brown could be good. 985 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,920 That would be the argument. Like the the comp would be Miles 986 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,880 Gaskin, for example, who was a workhorse in college, was a day 987 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,680 three pick, didn't play it all in year one and then year two 988 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,560 was a stud for Miami and was a great fantasy football pick. 989 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,040 There are there. Are just an all time flyer, but 990 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,200 like we, we're taking a a flyer profile and we're elevating it. 991 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:50,200 So Blair had a really good piece before last year's draft where 992 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,880 he talked a lot about the situation there at Illinois and 993 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,720 work through how Chase Brown compared to other backs that 994 00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,520 they had some of the blocking numbers for them. 995 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,480 And it wasn't something where it's like we should ignore the 996 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,280 efficiency profile because you would like someone who's going 997 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,640 to be a star at the NFL level to do more than he did. 998 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,160 At the same time, you've got a workhorse which is very 999 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,160 meaningful. You've got a £210 back who has 1000 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,320 elite speed. And I mean a lot of. 1001 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,200 The guys that are getting drafted in this general area, 1002 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,320 you know don't or some of the guys. 1003 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,440 Who are and? Again, it's a depending on where 1004 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:41,040 you see the tears breaking, they don't even necessarily have that 1005 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,920 successful like heavy workload season. 1006 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,640 The other thing is I I don't think that we could ignore when 1007 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,840 the guy has the workload and he has the speed, the reviews in 1008 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,600 terms of how he's improved in certain elements of the craft 1009 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,960 over the offseason. I think if you're talking about 1010 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,720 somebody who's not athletic and has never carried the ball and 1011 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:05,240 you're getting a bunch of puff pieces saying this guy has 1012 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,440 improved in some key ways. You're like, yeah, I'm improved 1013 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,680 from not being anywhere near the NFL to probably still being like 1014 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,920 at the edge of the NFL. For me, with Brown, it's a 1015 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,600 little bit different. You. 1016 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,800 And I, I, I feel at the the Gaskin point and you said as all 1017 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,920 time flyer it was, but I, I will note there's several other day 1018 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,400 threes in recent years that did this after not doing much in 1019 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,080 year one. We got it from Kyron last year. 1020 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,640 We got it from Jerome Ford last year after the team told us in 1021 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,600 the offseason he was their number two, which the team has 1022 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:32,600 told us about. Chase Brown. 1023 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,440 We got it a little bit from Ty Chandler last season. 1024 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,120 He ended up taking over the back go down the stretch that you're 1025 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,880 talking like Chase Brown could be a total zero this year. 1026 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,480 And I don't think that's actually a valid take away from 1027 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,880 what their actions are. And I don't think it's a valid 1028 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:47,920 take away. I'm not talking. 1029 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,360 Like he could be a total zero. I'm talking about you just you 1030 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:55,400 cited really good 15th to 18th round picks and I agree with 1031 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,240 you, but we just took him in the eighth round. 1032 00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:58,640 I'm just talking about. How they produced in year two 1033 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,960 like the the market's the market, but they all a lot of 1034 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,160 them produce. This is a big. 1035 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,680 Premium to pay for this profile and we and it came in an 1036 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,600 opportunity cost of profiles that we should be a lot more 1037 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,200 confident in as far as what their upside is. 1038 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,360 I think running back still a pretty opportunity based 1039 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,240 position. I guess I the confidence you 1040 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:22,240 have in in the player profile sticking year over year because 1041 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:24,640 that stuff can change quick too. Like I've, I was really 1042 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,920 confident Romandre Stevenson was one of the best running backs in 1043 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,880 the league last year after his, you know, missed tackles forced 1044 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,960 in invasion numbers in the first two years and then he had pretty 1045 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,240 bad numbers left. His numbers, his numbers as a 1046 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:35,800 sophomore were actually. Not that great. 1047 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,760 So, you know, there was some, we got some red flags in the 1048 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,000 breakout season, which is sometimes, I'm not, I'm not 1049 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:41,920 saying it's. Going to. 1050 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,760 Be sometimes we get red flags in the breakout season because you 1051 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,640 get the efficiency that gives you the opportunity and then you 1052 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,640 don't have the efficiency to go with the opportunity and then 1053 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,840 it's time to go now. Now would you like to pay more 1054 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,000 for this? And then the answer last year on 1055 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,320 Ramandre was kind of like, maybe not, you know, I wasn't 1056 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,040 hammering Andre last year because the price went up 1057 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,160 significantly. Yeah, I. 1058 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,800 I, I guess what I'm saying is the way that you're framing your 1059 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,760 argument, I think is very fair, but I don't think it's the only 1060 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,040 way to frame the argument. And I, I feel like I'm trying to 1061 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,240 make like other points and you're like, but this is how it 1062 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,000 needs to be framed, needs to be framed about talent. 1063 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,600 And this is not like too high to pay for a talent profile. 1064 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,280 I want to make bets on talent profiles. 1065 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,000 It feels very similar to the Andrews Kincaid discussion we 1066 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,240 had as well, where it's like I need to know the player is a 1067 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,120 certain level of talent and I understand that's like your 1068 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,840 process, but I don't it's not like, but we took Brown 1069 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,720 qualifying thing we took. Brown I'm. 1070 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,920 Just explaining what I think. I think it wasn't. 1071 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,240 It was a pic that really requires a lot of hope because 1072 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,200 we don't have a lot of evidence that he's very good. 1073 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,880 I was just, I didn't mean like you talked us into not taking 1074 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,040 Brown, just you're like saying definitively we can't take a 1075 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,880 this type of profile over these types of profile. 1076 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,960 Like I just that's a a process based opinion. 1077 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,040 That's which is fair. I'm I'm saying. 1078 00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,520 It's a good process. Oh my God. 1079 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,560 God, what one pick? Oh my God. 1080 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,680 That's why I was. Tearing that conversation. 1081 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,040 On as long as possible, I was like, we just want to not talk 1082 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,960 about the next pick because Brian, yeah, that. 1083 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:15,040 Sucks, Sean. What do you What do you see 1084 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,520 here? Well, I mean, I like the huge 1085 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,520 faller in terms of not that he's falling in the draft, but that 1086 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,240 he's like falling off the fantasy Cliff, the fantasy 1087 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,680 radar. I don't think that there is a 1088 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,320 running back who is draftable in this range, but I'm certainly 1089 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,320 open to anyone that people like. I don't really think there's a 1090 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,520 running back necessarily draftable at the ten O 4 either. 1091 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,520 Well, I see you put. Some Q BS in the queue. 1092 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,040 I just can't imagine taking Q BS though. 1093 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,960 After Stroud, yeah. That's mostly just to remember 1094 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,880 that they're there, track where they go so. 1095 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,480 Sean has Jordan Addison in the queue. 1096 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,920 Are there any other suggestions here? 1097 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,240 I'm fine with Addison, but we need to move quickly. 1098 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,880 And try to get Addison on the way back but Sean saying he 1099 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,320 doesn't like Singletary there. So I. 1100 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,320 Would have probably. Just put the bullet on Devin 1101 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,080 Singletary, but. Yeah, the he's the top of the. 1102 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,440 Queue. So it's not like anyone was 1103 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,920 missing him. If you guys weren't into him, 1104 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,760 you weren't into him. I think we can still. 1105 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,240 Find a running back. We like coming back here at 10 1106 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,200 four. The the. 1107 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:24,760 Teams behind us, I guess it's 5050 on what they need. 1108 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,640 Team 12 definitely needs wide receivers, but I think, yeah, I 1109 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,800 think there's running back there. 1110 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,120 So Sean, like. Would you, I assume Madison was 1111 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:40,960 your was your call there? Yeah, I when you look at what 1112 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:46,560 receivers who do what he did as a rookie and we're fantastic in 1113 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:47,520 college. I mean, you're talking about 1114 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:53,000 somebody who every year is good and now we don't have to worry 1115 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,840 so much about the quarterback change mid season. 1116 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,960 There's a potential that that lowers the ceiling a little bit 1117 00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:02,920 if McCarthy really was going to be a star because Sam Darnold is 1118 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,600 not a good football player. And yet the rest of the context 1119 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,400 is absolutely fantastic outside of, you know, if you got hit 1120 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,840 with a suspension during during the playoffs, during the race, 1121 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,480 which does seem. I guess possible, but I mean 1122 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,440 this is like the. Timing of it, I think we, we, we 1123 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,280 seem to be not out of the woods completely, but it doesn't seem 1124 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,000 likely. And so that, you know, that 1125 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,560 makes me feel pretty good about taking a guy here who I think 1126 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,720 should be going in the sixth round. 1127 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,480 What's the latest? On on his health I guess. 1128 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,840 I haven't heard anything. Is he expected to be ready week 1129 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,960 1? It didn't. 1130 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,560 Sound like the injury was meaningful, but any time that 1131 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,640 somebody is missing practice right now, the vibes. 1132 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,440 Aren't good, John, They're not good. 1133 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,960 I've been. Moving Addison down to my rig, 1134 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,360 but we didn't, I mean. This is down and down and down 1135 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,520 and down though from where he should be. 1136 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,480 And this is this is the. Same. 1137 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,800 Thomas didn't get there. That that was, that was rough. 1138 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,640 Well, that was. That was just the easiest, Yeah. 1139 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,520 The, well, teammate I'm going to guess is some combo of a Rotoviz 1140 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,800 Stealing Signals Legendary Upside subscriber with the 1141 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,480 Neighbor snipe, the JSN snipe, and Brian Thomas snipe. 1142 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,400 But maybe not because they took Joe Mixon in your way. 1143 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:34,400 Yeah. I mean, I'm honestly fine to 1144 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,000 grab both Moss and and and Chase Brown here. 1145 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,440 I know Pat loves Rico. I love Rico. 1146 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,560 But I think we should take a bigger swing regardless the 1147 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,480 other running back in the in the queue or honestly any of the 1148 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,680 other. I just think that we need we 1149 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,640 need Chase Brown to to kind of work at this with that pick. 1150 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,480 I think so, yeah. I would be Rico, who frankly a 1151 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:04,400 pretty similar bet to to yeah. I think I think Rico would make 1152 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,200 sense here. Sean is there. 1153 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:13,160 A potential for I just I like the rookies. 1154 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:19,640 Is there a preference on the rookies I mean? 1155 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,280 I I don't have a strong preference, if you wanted to go 1156 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,560 with with Wright, I'd Gretsch. Weigh in I would be. 1157 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,640 Not Rico, because we've taken him twice and I'm not as 1158 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,840 confident than say a name. You don't want to piss Benson? 1159 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,320 Yeah. Wright's great. 1160 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,960 Wright's great. I I Wright would be. 1161 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,360 I I think it's, it's there's a thinness to this play, but 1162 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,800 there's also the the element where, I mean, Jalen Wright is 1163 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,280 the guy who just wins every single yeah. 1164 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,040 Yeah, there is that. Outcome, yeah. 1165 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,680 He's much better, I think, than one of the things we had a 1166 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,920 variety of of people on OT this spring. 1167 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,400 And one of the things they talked about is some of the 1168 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,840 things that you read when you read his scattering reports from 1169 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,720 the big names where there's concern about the vision at the 1170 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,120 second level. The other element, though, is 1171 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,480 just that he's basically a Chan with another like 20 lbs. 1172 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,640 And so you're talking about a guy who the dolphins are raving 1173 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:23,200 about the violence of his runs. He's got elite explosiveness. 1174 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,840 He's so fast. And I'm this other two guys it, 1175 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,040 you can't make a pick like this and be like, oh, well, the other 1176 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,520 players have gotten hurt in the past. 1177 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:38,920 But there is an element to the specific names ahead of him and 1178 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:44,320 their fragile nature in past seasons that opens it up here. 1179 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,000 And already we're getting signals that if there is risk to 1180 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,640 the Dolphins runners, it's probably the guys who are more 1181 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,840 expensive because Wright is going to touch the ball. 1182 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,640 Yeah, I don't. Want to like I I'm certainly not 1183 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,720 trying to poke the pair here, but but how is Dowdle? 1184 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,920 A profile that isn't. Exactly. 1185 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,600 I mean, I know it's cheaper. I'm I'm. 1186 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,960 This is a that is. The answer the I guess I just 1187 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:15,280 I'm struggling to understand why the price isn't factoring in. 1188 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,960 Like I'm not saying we got, we got all the same. 1189 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,360 It's all the same. Range if brown was here. 1190 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,560 I would have been like, hell yeah, let's do it. 1191 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,840 But the opportunity cost has changed significantly. 1192 01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,480 We didn't have to pass on Brian Thomas. 1193 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,760 We didn't have to pass on Ladd Mcconk. 1194 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,640 We didn't have to pass on Jonathan Brooke and Jalen Warren 1195 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,840 and Jalen Wright. But yeah, like it is the 1196 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,760 opportunity cost. That is my argument. 1197 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,040 So when the opportunity cost breaks, couple rounds later, 1198 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,440 like let's go, let's swing for the fences. 1199 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,440 I would. Make the case that again, I I do 1200 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,160 think there are enough pieces with Brown to where it's a very 1201 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:53,160 different talent argument. But but even if it's not, there 1202 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,160 is a situation where. So I mean like I guess. 1203 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,440 I. Am just so much less convinced 1204 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,160 on the college stuff. I mean like his peripherals in 1205 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,280 college his breakaway percentage was atrocious and I know he had 1206 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,720 like the four four speed but he actually did not profile as an 1207 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,440 explosive back. He was a a tackle breaker kind 1208 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,640 of chunk play guy. His yards per outrun was 0.99. 1209 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:22,160 That's not like terrible. He ran a lot of routes actually. 1210 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,160 So like. Kind of a leave. 1211 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,000 The light on for him as an NFL receiver type of profile, but 1212 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,600 nothing there that was like a stamp like this guy's going to 1213 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,520 be really good as a as a receiver. 1214 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,280 And then in addition to him not being explosive in the running 1215 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:39,160 game, you know, I, I don't, I don't prefer that that he wasn't 1216 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,640 explosive in the receiving game either. 1217 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,720 So in terms of actually like delivering big plays, we didn't 1218 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,840 get a lot of that in college, which makes the the argument on 1219 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,960 the speed a little thinner to me. 1220 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,840 Yeah, and you can't just point to the one run and say it was 1221 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,120 the second fastest run, the second fastest time play in the 1222 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,280 entire NFL last year because, again, it's just one play. 1223 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,680 You need to be breaking more of those types of plays. 1224 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,080 And yet, Sean? Argument, not an argument. 1225 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,320 You can't just point to this thing. 1226 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,840 That was really cool, but. I mean, he gets he's fast as 1227 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,480 hell. Like, I'm not saying he's not 1228 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,440 fast. He is fast, but we know that 1229 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,640 like even at running back, these guys, there's skills that we 1230 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:21,960 want these guys to be right, but there are. 1231 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,080 Plenty of workhorse backs Who? Get. 1232 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,320 Drafted because the volume is going to be there who are not 1233 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,360 fast and so they also don't bring that element in the play. 1234 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,720 For me, part of it is structural in that Jordan Addison I think 1235 01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:40,240 is a better pick than Lad Mcconkey and Brian Thomas. 1236 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,640 I don't I wouldn't have pushed for him ahead of those guys 1237 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,880 because I understand what the current context. 1238 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,200 Of the entire. Situation is, but if he's going 1239 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,760 to potentially come back, I do want to get a running back 1240 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,720 there. And I think that the other names 1241 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,960 that are in the mix are, you know, Spears and Brooks. 1242 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:03,760 One of he Brooks is a guy that I want to get a lot more of as the 1243 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,840 next couple weeks play out. It was maybe a situation where 1244 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,600 on the teams where you have Hall and Robinson or when Gibbs gets 1245 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,720 back to you, you know, in the early 2 then. 1246 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,440 Then I would have. Pushed pretty hard, probably for 1247 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,600 for Brooks there. Wait. 1248 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,120 Wait, sorry with with what happened. 1249 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,200 Well, just. If you end up if you're drafting 1250 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,680 on a team where you got that anchor with a brief hog John. 1251 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,360 Robinson, or if you're. Drafting a Jim, you're a good 1252 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,080 team. Then I think you you've got to 1253 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,080 try and get him because he's going to score a lot of points. 1254 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,200 No, I like Brooks a lot. I think he's he's a clear 1255 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,960 target. But I again, you know, look at 1256 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:51,160 the prospect profile, stuff like Brooks profile is a guy that you 1257 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:55,840 take in kind of the late 1st Chase Brown actually came out of 1258 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,880 my stuff as a fourth rounder. He didn't and that's what the 1259 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,560 draft capital put in there. But it was a it was a profile 1260 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,840 that I didn't love coming in at all. 1261 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,720 All right, here's the recap of our team. 1262 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,000 Garrett Wilson, Trey McBride, Jalen Waddle, George Kettle, 1263 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,200 Tank Del, Xavier Worthy, CJ Stroud, Chase Brown, Jordan 1264 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,080 Addison and Jalen Wright. Since we picked Zach Moss, 1265 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,080 Eckler and Rico, the running backs off the board. 1266 01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:25,319 No tight ends in this round, the wide receivers Curtis Samuel, 1267 01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:28,800 Lockett Palmer, Romeo Dobbs and Mike Williams. 1268 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:41,319 I do like the theory of the cause Tyler's saying with the 0 1269 01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:44,399 running back team, you need to hit on an outlier player and not 1270 01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:47,160 a steady Eddie. So right is a fine play. 1271 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,920 I think that's very true. I mean, Sean, you can speak to 1272 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,600 this better than I can, but taking that home run swing at at 1273 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:59,279 running back does perfectly fit this build, which we did two of. 1274 01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,920 I mean, I'm not going to say that that Brown isn't a home run 1275 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,000 swing. He is, and so is right. 1276 01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:09,439 Yeah, one of the things that. I do like to mention to folks as 1277 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,319 well, and not that it always works, but you don't have to 1278 01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:16,520 take your first month production first. 1279 01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:21,920 You can figure out those plays where you're probably going to 1280 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:26,399 get some, you know, get me across scoring late and take the 1281 01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:30,520 guys that you think are going to win you the big money earlier. 1282 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,680 And I think it's tempting to think we can only do it in the 1283 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,359 other direction where we need those earlier guys to hit. 1284 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,240 And then the late plays are completely contingent value. 1285 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,680 Every draft is a little bit different in terms of what it 1286 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,800 gives you. Most of my favorite plays as we 1287 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:48,800 go through the back half of 2024 drafts are pretty big swings and 1288 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,880 not necessarily situations where I'm saying like this guy's going 1289 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,640 to definitely score you some points early, don't worry about 1290 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:54,800 it. And in those cases, I actually 1291 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,320 am avoiding those players because I think they will stop 1292 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,120 scoring. And so that's one of the reasons 1293 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,240 I'm not that high on Chuba, even though historically he's been. 1294 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,720 I think he's a very good player. I know I. 1295 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,000 I've actually struggled with Chuba because I think he's a 1296 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,840 good player. I don't really take much of him, 1297 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,320 though, because it's just he's just at such risk of of Brooks 1298 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,600 kind of eating his lunch down the back half of the season. 1299 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,560 The thing that. Sean just said there that was 1300 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,000 really interesting to me is a way of thinking about it. 1301 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,840 That's like if you have the early production, it's almost 1302 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,520 like you're more likely to lose it at some point unless you're 1303 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,200 like an elite talent, right? I mean, like there's the injury 1304 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,280 risk, but there's also the risk that like you do something wrong 1305 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,280 at some point to lose it. I mean, it's not necessarily 1306 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,520 what you were saying, Sean, but as you were saying that, it's 1307 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,200 kind of how I took it where it's like when some of these guys 1308 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,520 that aren't going to produce early, you can kind of play it 1309 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,360 for like the other guys will F up and they'll get their chance 1310 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:49,800 down the stretch. Like I mentioned Ty Shannon a 1311 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,640 little bit ago, it's not a great example, but it just came to 1312 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,240 mind. Like Alexander Madison 1313 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,920 struggled. They also acquired Acres, and 1314 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,720 Acres also struggled and then got hurt and then Chandler ended 1315 01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:58,920 up playing a ton down the stretch. 1316 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,080 And it's like it it came at the right time because they let 1317 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,400 somebody else fail first. It's almost like a. 1318 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,320 You know not. Necessarily intentional, but the 1319 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,760 other. Point I want to emphasize, and I 1320 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,120 realize, 'cause there's been like a lot of, I want to be 1321 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,480 generous, I think comments of people not understanding some 1322 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,160 pretty big differences in this tournament relative to what 1323 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,800 we've been used to with basketball and stuff. 1324 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,480 Let me put this in perspective for you guys. 8th place in this 1325 01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:29,760 tournament is one 100th of first place. 1326 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,160 I will say that again, 8th place is one 100th of first place. 1327 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,800 If there was ever a week 17 or the Sprint is All that Matters 1328 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,680 contest, it is this one. It is first or bust in this 1329 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,880 thing. So if you're not trying to build 1330 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,440 a super team, you should be playing a different contest. 1331 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,720 You're breaking. Mine and Sean's heart there a 1332 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,000 little bit. We were on. 2nd going into the 1333 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,480 final. Sunday last year and finished. 1334 01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:55,680 30th and we got a nice gift bag for it. 1335 01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,160 And. If our kicker hadn't scored 1336 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,040 thirty points, we would have fallen much farther than that. 1337 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,480 1. Nice thing is a couple of the 1338 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,120 nice running back targets have come back around. 1339 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,240 It hasn't been as running back heavy as I might have thought 1340 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:20,320 this range would have been. Likely Musgrave Schultz come off 1341 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,320 the board. Mr. Brock and Roll isn't able to 1342 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,720 complete his Brock stack as Brock pretty goes to the 1343 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,280 Christian McCaffrey drafter. The Brock stack. 1344 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,480 Yeah, and we. Are on deck here. 1345 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:37,760 Man, that one. Of the Tom's pick sucked. 1346 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,440 Yeah. Although, Sean. 1347 01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:44,560 You're irrationally high on Jordan Addison, so maybe that 1348 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:49,440 works, Dantavian Wicks goes. Chardonnay is. 1349 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:52,560 The guy we all click a ton. I might be the. 1350 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,840 Third guy in the queue for this team I'm. 1351 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,200 I'm into that is what I. Was going to recommend and 1352 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,360 partly because I like pulling up somebody for the next pick who 1353 01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:05,280 would be way ahead of ADP but also wouldn't make it back. 1354 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,360 I, I love McLaughlin, yeah. Let's do it. 1355 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,040 We'll start on make one. That's great. 1356 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:12,320 Easy. Yeah. 1357 01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:14,880 We'll start him every. Week to be honestly, we'll. 1358 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,680 Start him every week. Because our other party bags 1359 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,000 suck. You're listening to. 1360 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,560 That right is I mean. Right's someone I want more of. 1361 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,760 Like he's not he. That's a risky pick, obviously, 1362 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:33,480 but like, well, the whole thesis there, it's a high upside pick. 1363 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,320 I've made this. Case I made this case to you 1364 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:40,200 guys in one of our slows, one of a call manage slows like I think 1365 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,520 and we took, I think we ended up taking right in that one. 1366 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,560 But I think the Miami backfield, you guys are making this case 1367 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,320 last year, but like it's mispriced. 1368 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,720 Overall, they scored 32 touchdowns last year. 1369 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,040 Raheem Moser scored 21 TDs and is going in the eighth round. 1370 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,400 And if that is not the most obvious value in fantasy, then 1371 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,360 what is because HN had 11 touchdowns last year. 1372 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,640 Unless you think he's scoring 30, which case he should be a 1373 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,320 top five pick with Dijon and Breece. 1374 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,360 But if if he's not scoring 30, even if he gets to 20, he's 1375 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,960 still of huge value at 2:10. If Moser gets 10 himself, he's a 1376 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,560 huge value at 8:00. So I mean, look, the 30 could 1377 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,440 come down obviously as well. They score 32, but it could come 1378 01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:18,800 down. But my point, my point is like 1379 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,680 if Moser does get hurt and eight is not it, I. 1380 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,480 Mean and the. We should be taking Moser in 1381 01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:25,920 every draft. If we're not taking Jalen Wright 1382 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,720 more like right like, then it has to be Jalen Wright. 1383 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,960 At stop, Yeah, yeah. Exactly. 1384 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,640 Yeah. If you don't get a chain of 1385 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,880 Oster, it's got to be right. Like it just kind of has to be 1386 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,440 on every team. Yeah, I need to. 1387 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,080 I've been trying to take a little more right. 1388 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,400 Although at the same time I'm trying to take more McLaughlin 1389 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,360 and they're they go right next to reasonably similar. 1390 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:51,080 Yeah, yeah. But I just need to take my right 1391 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:51,880 well. The. 1392 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,880 One thing that's. Been I feel like Mclaughlin's 1393 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,880 price hasn't really risen after I mean, that week two preseason 1394 01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,480 game was about as bullish for him as you could get, I feel 1395 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:05,880 like, and I haven't seen people like moving him up much from 1396 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,320 there. He's he's such. 1397 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,560 Like the, the coaches, you know, like the coaches love him. 1398 01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,040 He's like been such a hard worker and he's obviously got to 1399 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,240 put together the the pass blocking a key thing for him to 1400 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,400 get on the field. Who did you wanna pull up, Sean? 1401 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,760 So I figured it was yeah, I like. 1402 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:31,120 One of these two guys, whoever the preference would be. 1403 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,680 The top two? Guys in the queue, yeah. 1404 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:39,560 The rookies I. I mean, I I love Bucky, but I'm 1405 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,160 I'm good with with other with either I'm. 1406 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,560 Always drafting Bucky. It's it's kind of absurd. 1407 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,520 I'm. I'm into Bucky I there's no 1408 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,920 interest in Ty Chandler. I think. 1409 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,880 Sean told me the other day he was undraftable. 1410 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:55,720 Sean, you loved. You loved Taichandla? 1411 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:56,920 Last year and even played well. What? 1412 01:15:57,440 --> 01:15:59,200 What? Happened that was an 1413 01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:07,840 exaggeration I just there was AI don't so is it is it good to go 1414 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,840 there was a really. Good Bucky report today. 1415 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,920 Yeah, yeah, we'll go. Bucky here. 1416 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,600 Ty would have been a good call. I didn't even see him in the 1417 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,440 queue. In in the in he's not in the 1418 01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:17,720 queue, but I didn't see him in the. 1419 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,360 I mean, that's a guy. You want to talk about, you 1420 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,280 know, who could kind of see his role grow over the course of the 1421 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,920 year And he's he was, I want to hear this. 1422 01:16:25,480 --> 01:16:28,080 Let's let's grill shot on this because I've been still ranking 1423 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,920 Ty aggressively, but you don't seem to. 1424 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:30,880 I think he's a good. Pick. 1425 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,800 He's very good. But you felt. 1426 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,320 Like you had some context. You loved him. 1427 01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:37,720 You you liked him last year. I didn't like him that much. 1428 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,640 Here's a this is a classic thing. 1429 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,720 I I kind of experience you don't know about this, Sean, but I'm 1430 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,480 over here just like the hell is going on. 1431 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,000 Like I'm like, I don't know about Ty Chandler, like he 1432 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,600 didn't really do anything as a rookie. 1433 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,080 Sean's in he's hammering him. Then he plays well, good pick. 1434 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,160 All right, Sean's right. Well, you know what? 1435 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,320 Now a situation's gotten a little bit better. 1436 01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:58,520 They're going to give him more work. 1437 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,600 His price hasn't really risen. This guy's a such a clear target 1438 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,400 and Sean's like he's he's not draftable. 1439 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,920 He's. Not on him anymore. 1440 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:08,600 Yeah. You're like, yeah, Sean was 1441 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:09,400 right. I'll give him it. 1442 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,440 And then he's like, wait, what? You're not trapped anymore? 1443 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,040 No, I'm left. No, I'm. 1444 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:13,640 I'm. What the hell? 1445 01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,320 What the? Heck's going on. 1446 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,920 I was just going. To read this report. 1447 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:24,640 What's going on? What? 1448 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,520 I need Sean. To tell us, I think, I think 1449 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,440 Pete is going to rescue me from well. 1450 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,680 There's so many things we have to get to here. 1451 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,600 First of all, someone says I'm loving this bit. 1452 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,040 I'm never giving Pat a player he wants. 1453 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,640 If you want to go back and watch the tape on who gets their way, 1454 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,200 it drafts. Pat has like an 80%. 1455 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,200 It's like I'm at like 5%. Gretch is at like 25. 1456 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,600 I got, I got to redo my math there and Pat's at like 70. 1457 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,880 If you want to go back, there's. Certain drafts where? 1458 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,400 I get more of my guys and certain drafts where I don't I, 1459 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,480 I don't think there's any doubt that you, you win the, the 1460 01:17:56,480 --> 01:17:58,640 fewest, Pete. Well. 1461 01:17:58,960 --> 01:17:59,680 Yeah. It's. 1462 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,320 Because it works out well. I understand that these guys are 1463 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,040 in A tier and you can flip a coin and then someone acts like 1464 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,680 they're just got stabbed in the leg if they don't get their guys 1465 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:08,880 shot. If I. 1466 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,880 Don't get Jace Brown. I was going to. 1467 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,320 Read it though on the on Bucky Irving they were talking about 1468 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,520 Liam Cohen and the running game and then the new offensive 1469 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,000 coordinator in Tampa and this is Albert Brewery said in the 1470 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,920 backfield's gotten a boost 2 with rookie Bucky Irving 1471 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,680 bringing a physical one cut and go style of running to what 1472 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,520 started. Rashad White and 2nd year man 1473 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,760 Sean Tucker have established Irving's looking like he'll play 1474 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,760 the position in that scheme a little like Kyron Williams has 1475 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,760 for the Rams. The guy who reads and hits seems 1476 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,960 fast. So just seemed like some bullish 1477 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,960 Nuggets on on how the team's talking about Bucky right now. 1478 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,560 That was fantastic. I got to read D Boot OO's Comet. 1479 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,120 My favorite part of Sean is how much sense he makes while still 1480 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,160 keeping everyone confused. That is your superpare. 1481 01:18:54,920 --> 01:19:01,200 I the thesis. On Bucky seems so overwhelming 1482 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:06,280 that I'm extremely scared of it because. 1483 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,480 The combination. Of his production and his 1484 01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:14,720 peripherals in college and what he has done so far in camp. 1485 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,720 I mean, I got I got in trouble on one of Ben's streams where I 1486 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,360 suggested that the team was already saying he was the 1487 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,760 starter, which is a more optimistic read of what they've 1488 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,120 said then probably is justified. There was this. 1489 01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,640 One in the chat it was like. Where's that report linked the 1490 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,720 report and then like DM Ed me and it was like can can you get 1491 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,840 Sean to send me that report? And then like later I didn't 1492 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,680 respond. Then later DM Ed me that report 1493 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,560 doesn't exist like he got. Aggressive about it. 1494 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,760 But anyway, I I. Guess. 1495 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,680 When it when the thesis is that strong, at some point in the 1496 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,320 back of your mind, you're just really scared that he's going to 1497 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:58,640 turn back into like a 180 LB really unathletic guy who fell 1498 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,480 in the draft, because those things are also true. 1499 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:08,680 But I don't know. I mean he they're he's so good 1500 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:12,640 and then you watch pre season and I mean he's the most fun 1501 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:18,680 player to watch and you know, I. Part of putting the zero RB 1502 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,800 countdown together does factor in the starters, obviously, 1503 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,480 because you want a guy that you can beat, and sometimes there 1504 01:20:25,480 --> 01:20:28,360 will be injured players or players who are out of fashion 1505 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,000 for a moment. That I do still include because 1506 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:31,920 I think they're talented and I think the starter isn't. 1507 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,600 I mean, I don't want to get. Into a big thing about Rashad 1508 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,800 White because there are some really cool things about Rashad 1509 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,440 White and he did do some good pieces as a pure runner both 1510 01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:46,920 what the coaches are saying and what the just the stats say now 1511 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,400 it's a little apples and oranges so we've seen Rashad White at 1512 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,880 the NFL level and we haven't seen Irving but I mean they're 1513 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,040 probably not even comparable runners. 1514 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,200 And so when you get this difference in price, it's it's 1515 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,400 pretty, it's encouraging to the point where you're scared that, 1516 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,960 you know, you are missing something that's pretty 1517 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,040 meaningful. Yeah. 1518 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:06,600 I've. Actually, I kind of did a thing 1519 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,800 recently. I was like, I need to take more 1520 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,920 Rashad White because I hadn't really taken any. 1521 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:16,160 And it's like, this guy can catch passes and maybe he's not 1522 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,120 as bad as he's been as a runner, and that might be enough, in 1523 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,720 part because Bucky Irving, so undersized and pretty bad Pass 1524 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,880 protector is another thing that I think is helpful to White as 1525 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,280 far as keeping pass passing down roll. 1526 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,840 But yeah, I mean, White has been horrendous as a runner in two 1527 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:39,000 seasons, so the bar is pretty low for what Bucky Irving has to 1528 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,960 do to earn a role on early downs and. 1529 01:21:44,440 --> 01:21:46,720 If you're going to fade Rashad White in every single high 1530 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,720 stakes draft, it's probably good to have some some Bucky Irving. 1531 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,720 Yeah. Where did he go in this one 1532 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,240 fourth round? Yeah. 1533 01:21:56,480 --> 01:22:02,520 So even ahead of like mix in. Well ahead, I was kind of hoping 1534 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,560 that Kenneth. Walker would slide all the way 1535 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,560 to us because he seems he's in that range where it's kind of 1536 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,880 tough to take a running back and yet he should be going multiple 1537 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,800 rounds earlier. And so you kind of balance those 1538 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,040 two things and you're trying to figure out a good team to get 1539 01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,280 some of him on. And yet I haven't accomplished 1540 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:22,640 it yet. But you're in on. 1541 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,600 Cherbournet, right? I am, but that was one of the 1542 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:30,080 ones where I did so there were two, two players that you know 1543 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,920 sometimes as you even write. Through. 1544 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,000 You know you. Do the write up for the list and 1545 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,640 you're working through everything that you have 1546 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,240 processed to that point and why you've been drafting him and you 1547 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,000 come to the conclusion that maybe you drafted a little bit 1548 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,200 too much. I think that Charbonnay was 1549 01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:49,840 somebody who people were too high on last year. 1550 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,880 It wasn't really supported by what he had done. 1551 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,480 And that that was then the disappointment and some of the 1552 01:22:57,480 --> 01:23:00,040 disappointment for me with Ty Chandler is just like, I mean, 1553 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,560 how much could they really like him when they let Alexander 1554 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,560 Madison have that many games in which he was the worst back in 1555 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:11,680 football by a wide margin? Yeah, I, I. 1556 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,200 I think you have to get some of both. 1557 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,600 I think the Seahawks offense is going to be good, but we have to 1558 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,560 also be aware that. Maybe it? 1559 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,400 Won't be. I mean, I thought it was going 1560 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,560 to be better last year than it was, so I've been trying to. 1561 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,480 Figure out who the player was that that Shawn did the thing 1562 01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:27,440 that you described Pat. And then as he just started 1563 01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:29,600 talking about Alexander Madison, I was like, it was Ty Chandler. 1564 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,440 Who's to say fucking guy that Pat was talking about? 1565 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,400 Spent like 10 minutes trying to figure it out. 1566 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:41,200 Yeah, I don't I. Don't When did Shawn decide that 1567 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,440 Ty Chandler was bad? He was like so in haunt him last 1568 01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:45,080 this offseason. Yeah. 1569 01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,440 On. Single rug pull it's. 1570 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,520 Classic Chuba. Win Mooney, Goff, Shahid Judy, 1571 01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,600 Josh Downs, Ty Chandler, Cole Comet 80 Mitchell. 1572 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,720 The chat's going wild. This guy has been This guy's 1573 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,400 brutal man, Braylon Allen goes. Every guy. 1574 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,120 We mentioned and we want him to come all the way back. 1575 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,480 I mean Wix I had thrown in the chat too and he took him this 1576 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,680 guy every time. What about? 1577 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,760 Another wide receiver here. What about the? 1578 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,680 Guy who has this guy in the queue here I just put. 1579 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,240 I just put a wide receiver in the queue. 1580 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,400 Oh. I got to refresh, it's not 1581 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,280 showing up for me. But I like I. 1582 01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,520 Like both names in the queue, I put the wide receiver and I the 1583 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,080 the running back. I think has a little bit later 1584 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:34,880 ADP. The running back is at 1311. 1585 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,480 In the last three days, I'd be. I'd be the wide receiver. 1586 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,960 Gretsch, you want to break a break a tie. 1587 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,720 I don't know if it's. No, I. 1588 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,960 Don't want to break a tie at all, I want to both. 1589 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,680 OK, I guess the. Producer needs to roll a clip 1590 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,360 the. Huskies. 1591 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:06,720 Pork, I think. Is just a smash. 1592 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,840 You get the drink, me upside Huskies. 1593 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,080 I'm taking a. Lot of pull but I am obviously 1594 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,480 trying to set up Drake may stacks. 1595 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,600 Just take Drake May. The people. 1596 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,080 Thought we were done. They thought it was just Jalen 1597 01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:25,840 McMillan. Oh. 1598 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,640 No, yeah, sorry. Guys, but I mean guys. 1599 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:31,960 You. Know. 1600 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,400 That needed to happen, that's why I couldn't answer. 1601 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,800 The problem is the other pick is the one that I thought the team 1602 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:41,880 really needed. I I think we're. 1603 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,000 Going to be able to get them both. 1604 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,840 What Sean, What is what is Polk's ADP in the past four or 1605 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,880 five days? 13-5. 1606 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,240 OK, Yeah. Good value there. 1607 01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,320 Yeah. I didn't think he would come 1608 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:56,680 back. I think the other guy had a 1609 01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,440 better shot, so we'll see. I, I I. 1610 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,080 I like getting another wide receiver in this range, you 1611 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,360 know? Wicks went two rounds earlier. 1612 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,600 Addison could miss the start of the season. 1613 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,040 I, I like building out a little bit more, more wide receiver 1614 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,600 depth here. I mean, is are there very many, 1615 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,560 there's not very many other attractive wide receivers late? 1616 01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:18,720 No for for. Managed. 1617 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:26,600 No, we. Can we can be done yeah it's he 1618 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,480 and he and Mitchell I think are and and honestly for managed I 1619 01:26:29,480 --> 01:26:34,080 think Polk more than Mitchell do give you some pretty nice upside 1620 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,000 yeah I'm. Coming back around on Polk for 1621 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,680 managed Dude, I've been moving them up too. 1622 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,080 I, I mean, I've been obviously like the talent, you guys know 1623 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,760 that, but I've been kind of down on him. 1624 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,920 But Pat, you made a good case last week when I was talking 1625 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,400 about the there maybe it was, it was on ADP chasing. 1626 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,400 I think with Dwayne, it's talking about the like bottom 1627 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,400 20% of his routes, top 20% of his routes. 1628 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,320 Like he's so, so flash in the top 20%, but is he consistent 1629 01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:57,640 all the way through the bottom 20%? 1630 01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,600 You're like, I don't need him to be an alpha number one. 1631 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,640 I just need to be a good #2 and he does like win contested 1632 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,040 catches. He does make high efficiency 1633 01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:06,560 plays. Like I think he can be a good #2 1634 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,440 and in 13th round, like you're looking for the Chase Claypool 1635 01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:11,720 hit, you're looking for the, you know that that that hit, right? 1636 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,960 Like not a superstar Polk is. Polk is the guy that you get a 1637 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:20,000 trade offer from Sean next year where he's sending you Polk and 1638 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,320 you're like, I'm winning this trade so I can't accept it. 1639 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:28,720 He knows something that I, he knows. 1640 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,120 He understands something about what's going to happen here that 1641 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,040 I don't, don't accept, don't accept those Polk trades. 1642 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,400 I honestly think Polk is the type of guy that, you know, 1643 01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:41,160 could be very much overdrafted in year two. 1644 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,880 You know, he he flashes. My hope is he he flashes year 1645 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,560 one. We kind of forget about a 1646 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,000 profile that looks somewhat low ceiling. 1647 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:53,000 He's tied to a quarterback we like and then he doesn't he's 1648 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,440 not able to take that secondary breakout, you know, where it's 1649 01:27:56,440 --> 01:27:59,320 like he now needs to emerge as a superstar in the league and he's 1650 01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,960 not quite to that level. So, but I, you know, I think we 1651 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,320 can still benefit from him at this price, even if he's a #2. 1652 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,640 Was the other. Player Videl for everybody that 1653 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,920 you guys were talking about with the 1311, yeah, yeah, that's. 1654 01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:13,320 Where he's going. OK, Yeah. 1655 01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,640 Let's do it, that's what. We're we're in on right? 1656 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,200 Yeah. OK, I'm. 1657 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,080 Fist pumping here, but I just want to make sure that I'm fist 1658 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,680 pumping for the right. Reason we didn't. 1659 01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,600 Actually say it anywhere. I just see him in the queue. 1660 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,840 Did we get? Fidel on our first team or not? 1661 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,320 Man. If we did, we. 1662 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,960 Probably took him a lot higher than this I. 1663 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,840 Moved him up so freaking much after that pre season week two. 1664 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,760 And I wrote about it and I wrote a whole thing about how I don't 1665 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,800 think we respond quick enough in some cases to this, you know, to 1666 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,760 to pre season news. But the whole case on Videl was 1667 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:52,160 centered on on an anti fragile bet against JK Dobbins and Gus 1668 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:53,600 Edwards. We didn't need a lot in August, 1669 01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,520 but I thought he looked incredible in that game. 1670 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,200 If you went and watched it all. He had 11 carries, 3 target. 1671 01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,960 He played late in the game, but like now I actually feel good 1672 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,520 about the talent bet as well. But the profile was strong. 1673 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,120 Coach speak index has been on and all offseason that Greg 1674 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,880 Roman's been talking about the player about the pass blocking, 1675 01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,040 which was really great. He can do everything. 1676 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,560 He's such a good bet now and because of all the flood where 1677 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,840 he was like left off a 53 man a week ago, like you should not be 1678 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,000 able to get him in the 14th round. 1679 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,080 Man. He should be going in the 10th. 1680 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,040 Like I honest to God, I think he should be going right by Jalen 1681 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,760 Wright. It's too good of a bet. 1682 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,720 I don't know if we've gotten. Him yet Pat our first draft. 1683 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,800 The running backs were Breece, Charbonnay, Rico Estimate and 1684 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,760 Shipley. I think maybe we tried to get 1685 01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,040 him and he, yeah, I can't remember. 1686 01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:39,760 I'll probably. Get him on this team man. 1687 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:40,720 This is a. Great. 1688 01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,240 It's a great bet at this price. Yeah, it's. 1689 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:46,240 It can still. Miss. 1690 01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:49,360 We know these bets can miss, but like the bet is the bet now. 1691 01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:50,960 Many of them. Many of them will. 1692 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,400 But we know the bet is like, I saw enough in that preseason 1693 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:55,520 game. It's a very film take. 1694 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,800 But like, I'm certain that what Harbaugh and Roman are going to 1695 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,600 see is going to match that. The announcers saw it. 1696 01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,320 They were like, oh, he's got a lot of juice. 1697 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:03,960 You know, like they're everyone could see it. 1698 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,920 It wasn't like, you know, just biased. 1699 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,120 I was telling Sean and I wrote it in my preseason week two 1700 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,160 write up. The reason I know that I wasn't 1701 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,680 purely biased is there was one player I was like, oh crap, he 1702 01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,080 looks kind of slow on that play. And then it was Isaiah Spiller. 1703 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:15,840 It wasn't him. I was. 1704 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:22,800 Like way. Slower to hit the line and then 1705 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,080 it was like the dance was like, and Isaiah Spiller took the 1706 01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,360 carry there. I was like, oh God, that's what 1707 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,240 it was. Where was Isaiah? 1708 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,600 Spiller going that rookie year had to have been like 10th and 1709 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,080 11th round of mains. Pretty high, yeah. 1710 01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,200 Where are you guys at on best ball with him? 1711 01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,080 Because I still am a little bit nervous. 1712 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,840 I think in manage it's like we just we just take him again. 1713 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,560 We just go, we go heavy. But in best ball, Fidel, yeah, 1714 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,400 you are you still worried at all about the downside? 1715 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,120 I've been. Doing a lot of Dobbins and Fidel 1716 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,840 picks. I like that. 1717 01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,160 Together because I'm getting. You're getting him in the last 1718 01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,080 round now, yeah? Yeah. 1719 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,160 If you're at 40%, how many drafts do you have to pass on 1720 01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,640 him to get back to a reasonable exposure? 1721 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,040 Well, you got. To tell us how many drafts 1722 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,280 you've done shot to do to crunch that math. 1723 01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:14,800 I mean, that's the I did this math. 1724 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,960 About Franklin the other night so I could help. 1725 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,320 Sean. Loves the profile you talked 1726 01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,160 about JJ, we love his model. He was when he was on ship 1727 01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,720 chasing in in April pre draft. He loved he was clicking. 1728 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,640 In the big board and he's. Making them all pre draft. 1729 01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:33,720 Yeah, he, I mean, people in the weeds love Videl's profile, 1730 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:37,800 which is really nice. And then I mean, they gave him 1731 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,400 some real work. They brought him in after three 1732 01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:40,760 snaps. Like he didn't start, but they 1733 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,320 brought him in right after Jared Patterson played a couple snaps. 1734 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:46,560 I he didn't. Really pop for me, but like I 1735 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,240 don't it's like also, you know, anytime a guy's cheap is a 1736 01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:54,840 prospect yeah, but he but like I like that he did for other 1737 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,560 people and I liked it. There's a there's some 1738 01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,000 excitement about him and it's like, dude, I mean this is the 1739 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,200 situation. It's a price situation combo 1740 01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,600 where like, what do I need from this guy? 1741 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,960 Like very little, very little. Yeah, I guess. 1742 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:11,960 The. Dobbins thing can obviously just 1743 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:13,760 fall apart. Like Dobbins is irrationally 1744 01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,760 excited about his own abilities. We've seen this in past seasons 1745 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,360 where like he was like very confident he was going to come 1746 01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:21,920 back and be really healthy about some stuff. 1747 01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,000 Like Sean, we joked about this, blame him for. 1748 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,120 Like a new injury. He's like I I was averaging 7 1749 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,000 yards of carry. I could barely walk. 1750 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:30,760 It's like, I don't know what the rest of these football players 1751 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:35,000 are doing. He came out in. 1752 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,800 The same tier as Chase Brown for me actually, so it maybe it 1753 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,440 wasn't like I was out. They're both day three picks. 1754 01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:43,880 What is that is that should that be? 1755 01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,560 I think this means he's the. Worst running back in this No, 1756 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:47,560 it's. The means I don't want to take 1757 01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,000 him to the 8th, I want to take him to the 14th. 1758 01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:52,840 OK, the. 14th got it. The only thing I can envision 1759 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,080 happening with Videl, and I guess this is like the Jalen 1760 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,920 Wright thing. It's like you're if the run game 1761 01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,360 is humming and say like Dobbins and Gus are in like a 5050 1762 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,160 split, like you're just not going to ever want to cut him. 1763 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:05,680 Like you're going to have to sit on it. 1764 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,800 You know the full year he is going to be the guy where you're 1765 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,880 going to almost no matter what happens, you're going to be able 1766 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,040 to talk. You say one of those guys get 1767 01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,520 injured and then the other takes a bigger role and he's in like 1768 01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,280 the smaller part of the community still got a hold of 1769 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:18,680 them 5050. It's like there's not a lot of 1770 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,280 scenarios where you're going to just be like, all right, let's 1771 01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:21,800 cut this dude. That's a good. 1772 01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,640 Point he could be a roster clogger, which. 1773 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,320 Honestly, I think. All of our. 1774 01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,200 Running backs fit that mold. Actually, they're all kind of 1775 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,800 committee backs, right? For. 1776 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,040 Sure, the information you're going to get on. 1777 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,480 Yeah, maybe not. The hope is that he's actually 1778 01:33:37,480 --> 01:33:40,680 not a handcuff. If a guy like Jaleel doesn't 1779 01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:44,120 have the role that he had in the preseason 2, that's also like, 1780 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:48,840 all right. Yeah, but I I guess I'm just 1781 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,880 confident that he will. But then he won't ever be like 1782 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,080 we're going to hold him. Also he's he's going. 1783 01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,800 To be our RB1. Yeah, he's our RB one you guys 1784 01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:57,800 want to. Cut our RB1. 1785 01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,400 So we. Have we're up to five running 1786 01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,320 backs. We got six wide receivers, 2 1787 01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:14,920 tight ends in our quarterback. Obviously our final selections, 1788 01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:16,960 two of them will be kicker and defense. 1789 01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:21,160 So that leaves us with four more non kicker defense selections. 1790 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:26,040 God, this team is sick. I like it, Pat. 1791 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:26,840 What do you think? About it. 1792 01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,120 He got Pulk, so now he's happy again. 1793 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,840 Could be. Better could be better. 1794 01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,800 But he's got none of his guys. How do you feel about him? 1795 01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:42,160 Break it down, Sean. What? 1796 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:43,960 What direction? Are you leaning here? 1797 01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,360 We are on the clock now after Khalil Herbert goes. 1798 01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:50,320 Yeah, there are a couple of. You know, sort of. 1799 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,680 Stashish wide receivers. I don't think we need that. 1800 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:57,200 I have a running back here I really like but I know that Ben 1801 01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,320 and Pater not as high on him. Who? 1802 01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,040 Will it? May be Shipley, which I'm. 1803 01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:08,520 No, I'm fine with. It take a peek. 1804 01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,720 Actually with this, we don't know where our RB2 is week one. 1805 01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,600 I kind of like to take a peek. Element for this roster I'm fine 1806 01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:15,640 with. It and I think the. 1807 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,440 Other running back up there might come back around too. 1808 01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,000 Let's take. Shipley here, it's actually. 1809 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,760 I was going to suggest him looking at your queue because 1810 01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,640 there's extreme we get 2 take a take a peek games this year with 1811 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,200 these. We've did this on our slow, but 1812 01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:33,440 with these extreme 0R BS like I think you can make a case stack 1813 01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:35,440 some take a peeks, take take three of them. 1814 01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:37,800 You know, like give yourself a, give yourself a week. 1815 01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:38,560 Use those. Peaks. 1816 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:46,240 The Scott, are you going to be drafting in Vegas or you draft 1817 01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,200 online? We are going to be in Vegas. 1818 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,600 It'll be a quick trip. Pat Gretsch and I will be out 1819 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,120 there with a bunch of the ship chasers Thursdays and Friday 1820 01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:59,480 doing a few main event drafts and then one of them is a 5K big 1821 01:35:59,480 --> 01:36:01,640 Play Payback that we're doing with Leonie. 1822 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:06,160 And then the rest of our streaming schedule is next 1823 01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:08,160 Thursday. It's the Crack Rock draft, 7:00 1824 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,560 PM Eastern, same slot is this week. 1825 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,680 And then the Tuesday after, that's the Tuesday after Labor 1826 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:17,320 Day. We are doing another 5K Big 1827 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,400 Payback draft with Leonie. That one will be streamed. 1828 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,360 So yes, two more stream drafts after tonight. 1829 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,080 And then what is it? 33 drafts in Vegas guys. 1830 01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,520 I think 2 mains in the Big Payback. 1831 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:28,680 Yeah, I think three. I think that's right. 1832 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,920 And we've mentioned this before, if you guys are out there in 1833 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,080 Vegas, we are hosting a party on Friday night. 1834 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:36,640 There is the Friday night game this year. 1835 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,680 So after we watch, you know, Will Shipley take a peek on him 1836 01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:41,800 in that game in Brazil. We're going to be heading to 1837 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:45,480 Blondie's, which is inside the Planet Hollywood complex. 1838 01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,280 We'll be having a party there. I think it'll start around 8:30 1839 01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,880 or 9 whenever that game ends. So if you guys are around in 1840 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:52,560 Vegas, definitely swing by say hi. 1841 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:53,880 We always have a lot of fun. I. 1842 01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:55,840 Always get way. Too drunk. 1843 01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,360 It's fun. One of these. 1844 01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,400 Years we'll get Sean out here but you know we're like crack 1845 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,120 rock we're unsuccessful in in getting these guys out yeah Sean 1846 01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:06,440 and. Crack rock, use the same travel 1847 01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:11,720 agent. I did appreciate Pete is the 1848 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:12,920 best. He sent me some photos of you 1849 01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,880 guys last year and it was it was really cool. 1850 01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:19,440 So yeah, everybody get out there and join that party. 1851 01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,080 Yeah, I'm not going. To but everyone else. 1852 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,520 John's going to be. Trying to get his Kamani Videl 1853 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,760 exposure down that weekend. So he he's going to be busy, 1854 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,680 going to have to draft some. Teams if I down you mean? 1855 01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:38,880 Taking more Kamani back up I think. 1856 01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,800 Yeah. Yeah, this is this plan's not. 1857 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,280 Working out I'm drafting more teams to get my Videl exposure 1858 01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:55,640 down but it keeps going up. All right, we get our no, I 1859 01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,120 guess our third defense off the board. 1860 01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,680 I missed Dallas and The Jets and then Baltimore comes off. 1861 01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,200 We are on the clock. The running back in the queue 1862 01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:07,040 does make it back if we want to. I do like that name. 1863 01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:11,560 I think I would lean the receiver just as like a just, 1864 01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,480 you know, home run swing there. But I'm also OK with the running 1865 01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:17,280 back. Is there, what do you guys 1866 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:21,800 think? Is there any interest in Bucker? 1867 01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,840 You want to go. You want to go kicker? 1868 01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,120 Did another. Another take a peek. 1869 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,240 You have a better. Grasp on the AD, PS and stuff 1870 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:37,200 and what can come back. He's already way beyond, which 1871 01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:38,760 doesn't necessarily mean anything at this point. 1872 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,240 Yeah, I'm sorry. That's not the case. 1873 01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:43,600 I was going to. Say. 1874 01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,440 I was looking at the wrong row. Yeah, I I like both of those 1875 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:52,880 receiver and running back place. Should we? 1876 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,440 Should we? Take a crack at Legette. 1877 01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:58,000 Is that who you want, Pat Legette? 1878 01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,640 That's that's who I was, yeah. Floating. 1879 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:06,200 I mean, I think he and then in a way, I think Legette is like so 1880 01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,880 binary, you know, like he's either going to be like good 1881 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:13,840 enough to pass Jonathan Mingo pretty quickly or he's the bust. 1882 01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:17,040 So, you know, you bet on that first round draft capital, 1883 01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,240 athleticism and then you I think you'll know pretty quickly if 1884 01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:24,440 he's a hold or not. Yeah, where I mean. 1885 01:39:24,440 --> 01:39:28,440 Yeah, 16th round. I know he his ADP is what maybe 1886 01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:31,400 even dropped a little bit after his his injury thing. 1887 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:36,840 He's in. He's in 15. 1888 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,080 So again, just the last several days. 1889 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:42,720 Yeah, a good price. I do. 1890 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,240 Like that angle talking about getting the information, like 1891 01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,840 with both Polk and Legette, we're going to get a ton of 1892 01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:50,760 information. Front. 1893 01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,920 Loaded and you, you don't, we don't have to wait for anything 1894 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:56,920 to like you got to climb the depth chart or whatever. 1895 01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:58,360 It's just like, all right, let's see if you're good. 1896 01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:02,960 I guess I'm a little bit skeptical. 1897 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,320 Of Polk. And at the same time, I, I guess 1898 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:09,920 I wouldn't say that I think that he is. 1899 01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,520 I think the Polk has a chance to be one of those guys where it 1900 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,520 probably doesn't do anything, but if he does something, it 1901 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,640 could be absolutely huge. Yeah, but you're. 1902 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,320 Just trying to get me to accept that trade off for next year. 1903 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,280 Column. I took him in our current RV 1904 01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,600 Triflex dynasty startup. We couldn't agree on a player. 1905 01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:31,200 And we're like, well, if you can't agree, you just got to 1906 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:35,280 click the third guy, Jayla Polk. So now we're set to to make that 1907 01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:37,680 like that trade. We'll see if we can trade what 1908 01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,880 leads to Pat. Grantor. 1909 01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:44,120 Sean expand on the on the pulk take though, what you mean by 1910 01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:45,160 that? I just like you think it's a 1911 01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:48,160 because I, I feel like I'm actually saying like it has kind 1912 01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,800 of like a higher floor just cuz we're going to get to see him on 1913 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:52,400 the field and he's going to earn targets right away. 1914 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,160 But are you kind of saying you actually think it's way more 1915 01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:56,040 boom bust? I do. 1916 01:40:56,040 --> 01:41:02,680 In that, I mean, a lot of my thought on him is influenced by 1917 01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:07,280 discussions with Ben. I couldn't believe like how Polk 1918 01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,200 disappeared in games last year when they needed him. 1919 01:41:10,480 --> 01:41:12,760 You know, once we actually went through it, that was shocking 1920 01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:17,200 For a player that people are as high on, Travis May, who's a 1921 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,240 fantastic college football mind is like, I mean, Jayla McMillan 1922 01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:22,480 is just way better. There's no comparison between 1923 01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:24,360 the guys now. They're different stylistically. 1924 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:26,760 You are looking for different things. 1925 01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,040 I think in most offenses Polk probably wouldn't be that 1926 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,880 interesting to people because he would be blocked by other 1927 01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,200 receivers. It's. 1928 01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,280 Similar for me in that I think you need two things to happen 1929 01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,200 that are probably both a little bit unlikely, but both possible, 1930 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,400 which I mean, you need Drake May to be the quarterback and you 1931 01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,320 need to be good and I don't think that's going to happen, 1932 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,200 but it is possible. It's possible that May is so 1933 01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:53,880 good and Polk is so good that we're looking at him as being 1934 01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:55,880 someone you should have drafted in like round six. 1935 01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:59,000 I think if you have the two things hit together, which is 1936 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:03,200 unlikely but very possible, then I mean you've won everything. 1937 01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:07,040 And I certainly know that that's a a bet that the PAT has made it 1938 01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:09,640 at points and I think it could work out points. 1939 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:16,160 Called drafts every time. Yeah, Yeah. 1940 01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,000 I mean, it is very much a bet on May in this particular situation 1941 01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:22,520 as well as a a profile that's like, you know, I think 1942 01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:26,680 interesting, but then gets priced at a big discount to 1943 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,280 other profiles that I also think are interesting. 1944 01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:32,000 Like, I think Keon Coleman's profile is interesting, not 1945 01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:33,920 that, you know, there's some real holes there. 1946 01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:38,320 He goes in the 7th and you can get, you know, Jalen Polk in the 1947 01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:42,320 11th or 12th or later. So, but yeah, I mean, betting on 1948 01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:46,240 May is a core part of what I'm looking to do when I take Polk 1949 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:49,600 because I think May, I mean, I, you know, you guys know how I 1950 01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,360 feel about May, but but ways to kind of benefit from that upside 1951 01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:58,160 in a way where like Polk is also, it's like he doesn't have 1952 01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:01,200 to pass some other guys. Like there's just no one there 1953 01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,720 on the outside. So if he's a competent 1954 01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:06,520 professional wide receiver who can hit the ground running, and 1955 01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:10,040 I think that is pretty much in line with his profile, then we 1956 01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,720 we benefit doubly if May is really good. 1957 01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,320 And Baker has been someone that I thought might end up being a 1958 01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,800 better play in part because he was basically free. 1959 01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,560 And yet he's continued to have the same problems that played in 1960 01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,120 last year, which is he just can't catch. 1961 01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,880 And if you're going to be a player who's probably is a lower 1962 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,040 target volume guy and you're getting open deep, you have to 1963 01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:33,680 catch it when they hit you on those passes. 1964 01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:37,160 And it it doesn't sound like he's doing it. 1965 01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,800 So you got a little bit. And it sounds also like he's now 1966 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,360 buried behind guys who maybe shouldn't be in the NFL. 1967 01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:45,280 And that's that's another pretty big red flag. 1968 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,400 Yeah. I think Baker's also tricky 1969 01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:54,440 because Bourne will be back at some point and they're going to 1970 01:43:54,440 --> 01:43:58,040 play a lot of 12. So you like if unless he can 1971 01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:03,880 pass Polk, unless Baker can pass Polk, then it's probably, you 1972 01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:08,440 know, Polk and either Bourne or Baker on the outside, assuming 1973 01:44:08,440 --> 01:44:10,120 Demario is just sticking to the slot. 1974 01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:16,400 So and then maybe, maybe like Demario would get used in 12 on 1975 01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,920 the outside a little bit too. So I don't know. 1976 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,920 It's not I've been pretty disappointed in the training 1977 01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,520 camp for for Baker, who I who I took a ton of early on. 1978 01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:28,000 I I thought just the pat kind of just to bet on the a depth chart 1979 01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,800 in a profile that was pretty well priced for the upside. 1980 01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:32,840 But yeah, it hasn't been, hasn't been great. 1981 01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:41,280 Yeah, the. All right, so we have four more 1982 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,320 pick or yeah, four more picks and two of them kicker and 1983 01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,280 defense. One of the the running backs 1984 01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,200 that was in the queue that I was interested in if we didn't go 1985 01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,120 wide receiver, there was Jordan Mason who comes off the board 1986 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:57,800 immediately after we pick him and then gain well trades to him 1987 01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:59,200 and the other running backs off the board. 1988 01:45:10,090 --> 01:45:12,130 Jawan. Johnson in the 17th again. 1989 01:45:13,850 --> 01:45:16,450 Yeah, let's just. Zacker, it's over. 1990 01:45:16,450 --> 01:45:23,440 Jawan Johnson's criminal It's. Crazy Sean, what do you think 1991 01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:27,800 about Jawan Johnson? Converted wide receiver earned 1992 01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,800 more volume per route the last couple years. 1993 01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:33,800 He doesn't really fit the way I like to play. 1994 01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:38,680 And yet. The more that I've looked into 1995 01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,880 him, the more that I'm just like, I wish you were more 1996 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,320 expensive so that when I'm wrong, it won't hurt me as much. 1997 01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:49,000 What? Did it take? 1998 01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:51,160 Because. I I. 1999 01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,120 Mean he should be going earlier a lot. 2000 01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:58,240 Higher. Yeah, I've got a lot of jawan. 2001 01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:00,640 My jawan bags are packed. Yeah, I've been. 2002 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,400 Taking a bunch too. I was taken before he got hurt. 2003 01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:08,120 I wasn't, but when he got really cheap after the injury and then 2004 01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,280 I was doing some more research, like through the projection. 2005 01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,240 So it's like this is an obvious play. 2006 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:14,240 Yeah, I. I think it was Davis who was 2007 01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:19,800 like the day he got hurt pretty much every leg up sub sub was 2008 01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:23,640 like, no, because we were all like hammering this dude and 2009 01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,160 Davis. I think it was Davis was like, 2010 01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:28,080 what did I miss? Like how? 2011 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,280 How? Did this many people upset that 2012 01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:34,560 Juan Johnson got hurt? We're. 2013 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,000 On. The clock Sean, I can confirm 2014 01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,280 that Harrison Bucker is now an ADP value. 2015 01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:43,120 Yeah, that is the. Direction that we should. 2016 01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:47,400 Sean gets his. Kicker, I think you talk about a 2017 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:48,480 guy and he comes all the way back. 2018 01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:49,760 You got to take him. Those are the rules. 2019 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:52,560 Hey, I mean. Anytime you take a kicker that's 2020 01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,160 not in one of the last two times, I think it's safe to say 2021 01:46:55,160 --> 01:47:01,440 we just. Kicker Chasing It's the show 2022 01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:05,680 where we chase the best kickers. The kickers that help you win 2023 01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:09,600 championships, the biggest legs, the breaking news. 2024 01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,560 It's everything you come to love and know. 2025 01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,360 The time is now for kicker Jason. 2026 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:27,360 Let's get some fucking kickers. That that clip is. 2027 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,880 Oddly more appropriate when you specifically click Harrison 2028 01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:34,240 Butker too. Right now realize it just a 2029 01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:37,440 slight more aggro tone for your your kicker get. 2030 01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:40,360 Back in the fucking kitchen, Harrison fucker. 2031 01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,800 Jesus. Harrison All right. 2032 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:50,760 Team has double tapped Baltimore in Pitt defense so the Beast is 2033 01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,520 being starved there. We got a couple. 2034 01:47:53,520 --> 01:48:00,440 Names in the queue. Would love to hear. 2035 01:48:00,440 --> 01:48:03,680 Sean's thoughts on Matt Ariza I I forgot that their putter is 2036 01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,600 somehow more problematic than their kicker. 2037 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:06,920 What? What are the Chiefs doing? 2038 01:48:07,480 --> 01:48:08,760 I forgot. About that he's. 2039 01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,760 He's their starting putter, yeah. 2040 01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:14,080 Really. He's. 2041 01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:18,400 He's going to make his NFL debut finally, Although I mean, I said 2042 01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:20,720 he's problematic, but wasn't some of that like, I don't know, 2043 01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,040 I. Don't remember shown to be. 2044 01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:25,640 I I don't know, I could even be thinking. 2045 01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:27,480 About the wrong person, but it seemed like he was completely 2046 01:48:27,480 --> 01:48:29,000 cleared. Completely. 2047 01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:30,680 Cleared the San Diego guy. Yeah. 2048 01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,400 All right. All right. 2049 01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:39,800 If that's not right, I apologize. 2050 01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:44,520 They're they're saying that in the chat he's fully quitted drop 2051 01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:48,840 from the lawsuit wasn't there. I'm disparaging him right now by 2052 01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,840 even you got to butt. Her contact high all. 2053 01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:55,120 Right. What do you? 2054 01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:58,080 Guys, think in positionally here, Damien Pierce goes. 2055 01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,680 We are on deck. I like this. 2056 01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,320 Receiver that I'm assuming Sean put in the in the but we. 2057 01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:05,760 Probably don't. Need a receiver, huh? 2058 01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,160 I'd be the. Quarterback just for for fun, 2059 01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,160 just for having fun. Just living life and having fun 2060 01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,680 the the selling. Point on the receiver too, is 2061 01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,880 just like, again, get that early information, you know, I feel 2062 01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,680 like we'll know one way or another, like if he's a bigger 2063 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:23,160 part of their plans this year or not. 2064 01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:25,720 Yeah, I honestly the receiver. 'S probably the smarter. 2065 01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:30,680 Play good with with Stroud. I guess, yeah. 2066 01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,880 How long would you want to hold either of these guys? 2067 01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,480 Not not that long. Oh whoa. 2068 01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:38,840 Receiver what? Colbert goes. 2069 01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:40,880 Yeah, OK. Well, the field. 2070 01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:41,920 Thing's pretty straightforward, too. 2071 01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,120 If Russell Wilson starts, we just cut, right? 2072 01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,680 Yeah. Well, let's wait. 1 field 2073 01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,680 starts, then we. Have a great one, Russell. 2074 01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,040 Wilson full game before we OK we'll. 2075 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:54,120 We'll wait till we do. That's a good call because 2076 01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:59,080 that's going to go bad quick. Plus I don't know if you guys 2077 01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:03,240 saw Liam stream where they timed out, they try to take Justin 2078 01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,400 Fields and then they timed out and took Eli Mitchell when they 2079 01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,560 already had Jordan Mason. It could really just big time 2080 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,880 then with this pick. Are you seeing anything else 2081 01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:13,240 here on the board, Sean? I know we had. 2082 01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:19,800 We had Tolbert in the queue. No, I and it's just too fun of a 2083 01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:23,520 play, right. I mean, this is the top 12 2084 01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:29,520 quarterback, yeah. I mean, we are to give the 2085 01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:33,200 people an idea of the running backs available by ADP. 2086 01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,200 You got generic Prince, Eric Gray, Deonte Foreman, Isaac 2087 01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,160 Guerrendo, who is going to be in a three-way timeshare with Eli 2088 01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:42,000 Mitchell and Jordan Mason when CMC goes down, Royce Freeman, AJ 2089 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:43,920 Dylan, Keith Mitchell. Like we're we're digging the 2090 01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,560 bottom of the barrel here at running back. 2091 01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:52,600 Carson Steele our our Fabio Great white hope. 2092 01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:57,640 Take a peek. Fantastic. 2093 01:50:57,680 --> 01:50:58,480 He got. Steal. 2094 01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:02,560 Yeah, I never thought to look him up, man, until you you told 2095 01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,600 me he's this like white dude with long hair ran a 475. 2096 01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:06,920 It's. Just like. 2097 01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:08,720 I got a real. Kick out of my reply, but your 2098 01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:09,720 tweet was perfect. It was. 2099 01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:13,360 It was hilarious. Yeah. 2100 01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,360 He's apparently he's done well. So this was the equivalent of 2101 01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,280 the the Bucky Irving's the starter report because I keep 2102 01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:24,360 hearing that he was good on GPS stuff, but I can't find any 2103 01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:29,120 evidence of any like numbers that were actually like what he 2104 01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:30,880 actually ran reported by someone. 2105 01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:35,360 I'd be like, OK, this is real. I would like to cause 'cause 2106 01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:39,240 someone told me that in Chiefs camp he was running well GPS 2107 01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:41,680 stuff. So if you've got that, let me 2108 01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:42,960 know. I would I would like to see 2109 01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:46,120 that. So you do you guys. 2110 01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,920 There's a game on right now and someone was in the chat earlier 2111 01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:50,560 going Anthony Richardson's 5 for five. 2112 01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,240 We threw a touchdown to Adam and Mitchell and I'm like, why are 2113 01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,280 they even playing? I just saw they've played a ton 2114 01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:58,360 and I also just saw a highlight where he threw a ball right at a 2115 01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:02,000 Bengal defender for a pick six from his own like 10 yard line. 2116 01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,800 Wait, they're playing the? Bengal, isn't that the same team 2117 01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:07,800 that they were scrimmaging with that they were chirping at him 2118 01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:08,800 too? You're chirping at him. 2119 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:10,600 Yeah, but Ben, that speeds up the game. 2120 01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,560 We want that. Gets him back on the field. 2121 01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:15,960 To throw Yeah gets him back. On the field, yeah, we want the 2122 01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:17,720 interceptions to be so bad they'll pick sixes. 2123 01:52:18,440 --> 01:52:23,960 That's a good call. That's fine, I. 2124 01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:27,440 Feel like you would, like wanna get looks at different teams. 2125 01:52:27,480 --> 01:52:30,280 Like I feel like you wouldn't wanna have your preseason game 2126 01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:33,320 against the team you're doing all the interest pod scrimmages 2127 01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:34,320 against. Well, I don't think. 2128 01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,400 You really get a look anyway, 'cause everyone does really 2129 01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,920 bland stuff in the preseason, yeah. 2130 01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:40,600 Well, that was a. Bad pass. 2131 01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:45,320 They did the end zone angle. Kylie Cranston ran a curl and he 2132 01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:46,280 just. Threw it like. 2133 01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:50,160 Maybe he thought he's gonna curl the other way, way too far 2134 01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:55,320 inside. The picks. 2135 01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:59,920 Since we've taken fields, Tim Patrick, Jutavian Sanders, Luke 2136 01:52:59,920 --> 01:53:04,400 McCaffrey, a little bump today, AJ Dillon, Cincinnati, Levis. 2137 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:06,520 Yeah. What is we haven't really 2138 01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,640 gotten. I mean, not that there was a ton 2139 01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:12,160 to talk about, but Sean, any, any takes on fallout from the 2140 01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,480 Datsun trade to the Eagles or Yeah. 2141 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:18,720 No. No, not really. 2142 01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:25,600 I it doesn't seem like it was relevant before or after the IT 2143 01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:29,320 just really makes you feel like Jaden Daniels is going to run 2144 01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:34,520 the ball every play. That portion portion of it is a 2145 01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:38,160 little bit disconcerting. It you feel bad for Datsun, it 2146 01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:41,680 doesn't seem like he either becomes. 2147 01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,200 Someone. Who factors in for them? 2148 01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:51,440 So it it's just, it's kind of odd because we know that he came 2149 01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:54,480 in with a profile that they shouldn't have taken where they 2150 01:53:54,480 --> 01:53:58,440 did, but then he was able to find the end zone a bunch that 2151 01:53:58,440 --> 01:54:01,600 first year and since then. Man. 2152 01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:08,000 No one doesn't draw a target like Johan Dodson, so I don't 2153 01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:09,880 think he's going to draw it behind the guys he's going to be 2154 01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:13,200 playing with there. When I was first at Rotor World, 2155 01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:17,400 or one of the first years I was at Rotor World, the Raymond 2156 01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:21,960 Summerlin and I had like this heated debate the entire 2157 01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,680 offseason. About. 2158 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:26,640 Johan Dotson versus trailing Burks. 2159 01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:30,800 And I feel like half the time I'm in a heated debate like 2160 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:34,800 this, it's about to bus like there's never, it's never like 2161 01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,960 as clean as like one of them's good and one of them's bad. 2162 01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,320 It's like, no, they're both going to be horrendous bus. 2163 01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:42,200 Those are the. Funnest Why do you think we have 2164 01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:44,280 a Darius Leighton Jalen Hyatt bet when it's not going to 2165 01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:45,760 matter? They both keep. 2166 01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,760 The thing about that is that I think they've both lost that job 2167 01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,680 to each other mutually. Assured distress more than once. 2168 01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:54,240 Yeah, they keep. Losing. 2169 01:54:54,240 --> 01:55:00,040 It. Does any? 2170 01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:03,120 The the queue is empty. We have one more non defensive. 2171 01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:04,360 Do you guys have a Darius Slayton? 2172 01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:07,480 Jaylen Hyatt bet this year. This year cuz you had a Darius, 2173 01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,280 Slayton, Wandell, Robinson, Waddell. 2174 01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:14,200 Robinson yeah, yeah, in the past, yeah yes, I will continue 2175 01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:16,440 to bet against Darius Slayton every year until I win. 2176 01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:20,240 Is this is how I? Went that sucked. 2177 01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,160 Out on the Wandell injury the first time. 2178 01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:24,840 You had to do that year though. Slayton was fine. 2179 01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,680 He was the best. He was the best receiver on the 2180 01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:30,720 Giants layer. I see him but can I get? 2181 01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:32,920 Waddell, can I get it all this? May I get a three-way bet? 2182 01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,000 No, no, no. I'm not betting it's Wandell. 2183 01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:37,800 No, Wandell is a. Is a better bet. 2184 01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:38,720 Sean, you want? Neighbors. 2185 01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:42,840 Did just everybody get in on it? Yeah, Sean gets neighbors. 2186 01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:45,800 I will play. I will play Sean. 2187 01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:49,760 You could take Theo Johnson. Yeah, actually that would be a 2188 01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,760 fair part of that's fair. I kind of want the, I want the 2189 01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:54,240 Theo side, I think, but it's fair. 2190 01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:58,960 Gretch can have Bellinger. I'll even take. 2191 01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:00,920 Jonathan. Taylor has five touches. 2192 01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:04,960 Theo Johnson. What'd you say I'll even take? 2193 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,000 Slayton if I don't have to be Theo Johnson. 2194 01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:10,800 One other guy. That's how much. 2195 01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,840 I kind of like Theo Johnson is getting getting run with the 2196 01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:15,640 ones. Is it rookie? 2197 01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:20,480 All right. He has. 5 touches in this game 2198 01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:21,200 What? What? 2199 01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:23,560 It's the last preseason game. What are they doing? 2200 01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,080 Oh, Anthony Richardson, Just fumble. 2201 01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:29,480 No one else is playing anyone. There's two games going on right 2202 01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:30,720 now. The other three offenses are not 2203 01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:32,880 playing anyone who matters. And the Colts are playing their 2204 01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,440 whole offense at half this. Is weird. 2205 01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,560 I do like the. Tight end Shawn as in the queue. 2206 01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:46,120 Theo Johnson is also available. But a Mayer pick, especially 2207 01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:50,160 with our precious Brock Bowers a little banged up right now, 2208 01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:51,440 doesn't seem like the worst pick. 2209 01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:56,640 That seems OK. It's the I, I, I make the good. 2210 01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,320 Be good with Carson Steele as well. 2211 01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,920 He's a take a peek guys, and he's John. 2212 01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:03,560 Where are you at? He's a rookie. 2213 01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:08,960 Yeah. We've got to the other names 2214 01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:11,280 were in there just to give Pat a little bit of a hard time. 2215 01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:16,720 Did you? Put Miles Sanders in there to 2216 01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,160 give me a hard time because he's going to go to Dallas. 2217 01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:23,400 Just as he shots trolling. With Rico Tattle, he put Royce 2218 01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:27,560 and Miles Sanders in the queue. He said the Cowboys RV one 2219 01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:31,720 brother I. Didn't even catch. 2220 01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:32,680 You were doing that. Jeez. 2221 01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:36,320 So Carson Steele thing I I legitimately thought he was 2222 01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:40,040 horrible, but then somebody I saw and somebody else has sent 2223 01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:44,520 me that he had like a timed MPH in practice of 20. 2224 01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:46,200 Is this going to? Be Agps take again. 2225 01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:51,040 Yeah, it. Was, I mean, is there anything 2226 01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:52,920 there, Sean, what do you think about him? 2227 01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:54,440 He had a lot of production in college. 2228 01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:59,960 I think any time that you can make a bet against anybody else 2229 01:57:59,960 --> 01:58:01,840 the Chiefs have at running back, you have to. 2230 01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:06,400 And again, you have that initial game I. 2231 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:10,040 Obviously the. Chiefs have an embarrassment of 2232 01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:13,400 riches and the last thing they need is an actual legitimate NFL 2233 01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:16,760 starting running back. But that would be exciting to, 2234 01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:20,040 you know, watch someone who when the entire defenses dropped off 2235 01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,560 and there's no one in the line. Actually. 2236 01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:26,560 Ran somewhere, so I don't think Carson Steele is that guy, but. 2237 01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,120 It I mean. They have set it up now that he 2238 01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:35,920 could be maybe the second guy, in which case in the 19th round, 2239 01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:39,600 when you don't really care who your defense is, do we have? 2240 01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:42,240 So. Even more than. 2241 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:45,040 You saw this, I don't have a. Defensive preference, Yeah, I 2242 01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:47,080 saw. This name Crocky J before 2243 01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:50,080 Donovan in the in the chat. Donnie Shea here saying that 2244 01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,000 Steele has a pet alligator named Crocky J. 2245 01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,600 Does that change your opinion on on Carson Steele? 2246 01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:57,600 Is it boosting up my board quite a bit? 2247 01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:01,880 Yeah, I do love. The idea of an alligator. 2248 01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:03,360 I'm glad he came. Back and should've taken this 2249 01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:07,000 part of Justin Field. I. 2250 01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:08,520 Also. I do have some Carson's. 2251 01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,120 I have some. Breaking news about Carson 2252 01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,840 Steele. He returned kickoff tonight for 2253 01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,880 a pretty good chunk of yards. I'm watching grainy footage from 2254 01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,760 the top of Arrowhead Stadium. Looks about 25 yard return. 2255 01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:25,520 All right. Defense here, Week 1. 2256 01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:27,120 Because are we out of take a peek? 2257 01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:30,280 They all went. I see KC and Philly, Green Bay, 2258 01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:31,280 Green Bay's. Here. 2259 01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:33,520 Yeah, we could. Try to get some Jalen Heart 2260 01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:35,200 sacks Green Bay against. Philly. 2261 01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:41,920 Who does so? Gretch, Chicago, Seattle. 2262 01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:45,040 Miami, since he's gone, since he's. 2263 01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,880 Gone. I'm trying to look at team who's 2264 01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:50,320 playing who. The 49ers are definitely gone. 2265 01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,000 Bills are gone. Seattle Who does? 2266 01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,840 Who does Seattle play? Seattle. 2267 01:59:55,840 --> 02:00:00,360 Plays. The Browns. 2268 02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:02,520 That's a good one. Just bet against Deshaun 2269 02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:04,800 Watson's shoulder. Yeah, Saints. 2270 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:09,240 Saints play the Titans at home, so they get. 2271 02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:10,720 I think we could put some of those. 2272 02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:13,000 Plays in after we know that doesn't score. 2273 02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:15,220 No, I'm. Actually, I'm reading you pre 2274 02:00:15,220 --> 02:00:16,680 season week 3. None of this is real. 2275 02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:18,160 All right, let's do. The Packers, then. 2276 02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:26,320 OK, All right, let's take that. Pre season week. 2277 02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:27,240 Three. That's correct. 2278 02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:29,360 The. Bears. 2279 02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:31,720 Play the Titans at home. I. 2280 02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:33,840 Could. I could tell you every single 2281 02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:38,040 match up basically for week 16 and 17, but I can't call Ben's 2282 02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:42,320 bullshit on who plays in week 1. So the Seahawks are at home 2283 02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:44,320 against Bo Nicks. I actually don't like that he's 2284 02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:46,200 going to throw underneath. He might he might turn the ball 2285 02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:49,000 over, but he's kind of not going to like push it down the field 2286 02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:51,760 or anything. I don't think he get big errors. 2287 02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:54,880 The the the Packers would get to take a peek. 2288 02:00:54,880 --> 02:00:57,400 The the Bengals are gone. They get the Patriots if it's 2289 02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:00,960 percent, yeah, Bears are at home against the Titans. 2290 02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:02,520 That would have been the pick. OK. 2291 02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:04,880 I think Will Levis is the guy you want to target, right? 2292 02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:09,720 Yeah, unfortunately, I think. Look up the right. 2293 02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:10,520 Week. I think it takes this. 2294 02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:12,880 Week we're we're going to have cuts on this roster. 2295 02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,040 So I, I think it's, yeah. Yeah. 2296 02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:19,640 But take a peek was a good call. Bears. 2297 02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:23,920 Do go there. Here's the team I will. 2298 02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:28,040 Give the full or you know what? Let's go over to you know what, 2299 02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:30,560 I always like this view here. We got Sean on, we got the road 2300 02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:32,280 of his. I like the redraft command 2301 02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:34,480 center view for looking at these teams. 2302 02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:37,160 A little conditional formatting here. 2303 02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:42,120 We got our two quarterbacks, CJ Stroud and Justin Fields. 2304 02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:46,480 We got a a grip of our 0 running back targets here, Chase Brown, 2305 02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:49,840 Jalen Wright, Julia McLaughlin, Bucky Irving, Kumani Videl, Will 2306 02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:51,880 Shipley and of course Carson Steele. 2307 02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:55,840 Running back 74. Oh our wide receivers, Garrett 2308 02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:58,840 Wilson, Jalen Waddle, Tank Dell, Xavier Worthy, Jordan Addison, 2309 02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:02,880 Jalen Polk and Xavier Leggett Got our elite tight ends, Trey 2310 02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:06,880 McBride, George Kittle and we got the the manliest man of them 2311 02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:10,800 all, Harrison Bucker at kicker. How did we do guys? 2312 02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:15,040 I feel I'm happy that we got CJ Stroud and Justin Fields back 2313 02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,240 together again. They play together. 2314 02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:17,720 Wow. Yeah. 2315 02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:20,080 Oh wow. That is nice, Paul. 2316 02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:22,120 We also got. No, never mind. 2317 02:02:22,120 --> 02:02:23,760 I thought we had another team right there. 2318 02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:29,960 I get the redress. Oh, is this? 2319 02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:34,240 Now that the team's gone, it it went away from me, here we are. 2320 02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:36,600 Sean Pat, any any thoughts about this team? 2321 02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:41,120 Well, this is. Definitely the way that. 2322 02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:43,920 I hope to come. Out Kitty McBride and Kittle 2323 02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:48,840 gives us such a trunk card there and so much flexibility and then 2324 02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:52,200 you know, having those four early receivers, I really think 2325 02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:56,080 that Dell and Worthy are fantastic picks at those prices. 2326 02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:59,560 I really like to push the QBs and try and get into that range 2327 02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:02,600 where you're sort of staring down the rest of the group and 2328 02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:06,400 trying to get Jordan Lauber, Jayden Daniels, but CJ Stroud at 2329 02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:11,520 that price with Dell and I, I don't understand the concern 2330 02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:13,720 about him being a passing quarterback. 2331 02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:16,840 I think he's going to have a historic season. 2332 02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:18,640 Maybe it doesn't happen this year, it's going to happen 2333 02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:20,920 sometime in the next couple of years. 2334 02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:26,000 And then to rip off all of these running back selections, I think 2335 02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:28,000 the profiles fit together really nicely too. 2336 02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:30,080 I would be surprised if we don't end up as one of the better 2337 02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:33,000 running back scorers in this league, and that's after we 2338 02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:36,960 waited until Round 8. That's a hot take right there. 2339 02:03:37,440 --> 02:03:38,560 One of the. Things that I've been kind of 2340 02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:41,560 frustrated about with the draft landscape this year is that you 2341 02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:45,160 end up in these basketball drafts with like, you kind of 2342 02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:49,920 staring down like Aaron Jones and Romandre Stevenson and Naji 2343 02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,800 Harris and these dudes who like you probably should take because 2344 02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:56,080 they have like, volume. But I want to build more teams 2345 02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:59,560 like this where you're like, I'm just taking home run swings at 2346 02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:03,040 running back and you're pushing it a little bit further. 2347 02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:05,960 And this is, you know, the difference between managing best 2348 02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:08,280 ball to a degree. Like we we're going to cobble 2349 02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:11,200 stuff together and we're going to we're going to have clear cut 2350 02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:14,400 guys that we can start from this running back group by the end. 2351 02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:16,640 And they're going to score a lot of points once we know who they 2352 02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:19,080 are. Yeah. 2353 02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:24,960 Yeah, it's it's, it's harder to pull off in best of all because 2354 02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,280 it's just you. You need your. 2355 02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:30,720 Roster spots to all do stuff and here we can just we're churning. 2356 02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:32,080 We're going to turn a bunch of these dudes out. 2357 02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:37,720 Yep, Gretch, Thoughts on this team I. 2358 02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:41,320 Mean, I love it too. I think it, I mean, I, I think 2359 02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:43,960 you read my, my e-mail. I, I mentioned Wilson, but you 2360 02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:46,360 might have left out because we hadn't picked yet that I, I 2361 02:04:46,360 --> 02:04:50,120 believe I also mentioned McBride as before we had. 2362 02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:50,920 Picked. I wasn't. 2363 02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:55,280 So I. I3 weeks ago, was hoping that we 2364 02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:56,880 would start Garrett Wilson, Trey McBride. 2365 02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,600 So certainly I can't complain that that ended up happening. 2366 02:05:00,680 --> 02:05:02,160 Yeah. I mean, I, I, I think it's a 2367 02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:05,000 great team. The Stroud thing Sean was 2368 02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:08,080 talking about, I'm writing my my QB targets stuff and was trying 2369 02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:12,560 to make that my my tears article. 2370 02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:14,840 I was trying to make that case and articulate it. 2371 02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:16,800 And the way that I wrote it was like, I know a lot of the people 2372 02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:18,920 that are worried about the drop back passer stuff they talk 2373 02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,920 about like Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert and some of these guys 2374 02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,080 that we propped up after an initial good season. 2375 02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:27,240 And I think the bet on Stroud is just that he's going to prove 2376 02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:29,760 that he's better than them, that you're essentially saying that 2377 02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:33,480 after the season he's going to be a clear cut top two 2378 02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:36,280 quarterback in the NFL. Obviously Mahomes is going to be 2379 02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:38,560 in that conversation too, but Mike Stroud's going to be in the 2380 02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:39,840 MVP conversation. Stroud. 2381 02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:42,720 And I understand people don't want to make that bet, but I, I 2382 02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:44,480 think it's very fair to basically say this guy's on a 2383 02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:46,040 Hall of Fame trajectory right now. 2384 02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:49,040 Like that's what we saw last year. 2385 02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:50,200 That's what I saw in the preseason. 2386 02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:52,920 This guy's so freaking good at football. 2387 02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:56,160 He's so incredibly good. So I love that our team has him 2388 02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:58,960 and has Tank dealt with him and has other really good players 2389 02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:00,720 too. Like it's, it's, it's, it's a 2390 02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:02,880 fun team. I. 2391 02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:07,640 I legit, I, I, I'm kind of, I'm kind of jacked up for this team, 2392 02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:11,280 partly because it felt like zero RB went so mainstream that it 2393 02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:15,480 was almost like impossible to get people's feathers ruffled in 2394 02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:17,440 the way we used to. Like we would do a team like 2395 02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:19,320 this and everyone would be apocalyptic. 2396 02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:22,920 And then you see teams win zero RB at the main event, they win 2397 02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:25,000 the regular season and underdog and everyone's like, OK, yeah, 2398 02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:27,040 we get it. But then to get comments like 2399 02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:28,800 the these running backs are wild. 2400 02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:31,880 Who's starting week one? I'm like, this feels so good to 2401 02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:34,440 be back to something feeling contrarian. 2402 02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:37,800 Cause for a while it was like the golden age of 0 RB is, is 2403 02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:38,960 dead. Everyone realized that it's 2404 02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:40,400 optimal in these top heavy tournaments. 2405 02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:44,480 So it just feels good to be back to to not doing what is 2406 02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:49,280 considered mainstream guys. And we've got it set up for Will 2407 02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:51,680 Shipley, Carson Steele, Week 1. So yeah. 2408 02:06:51,680 --> 02:06:53,000 Right. Yeah, your week 1. 2409 02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:54,480 Starter doesn't have to come from the top. 2410 02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:58,440 Sean what? Was the team with you and Blair? 2411 02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:00,360 What was it? Was it two years ago you guys 2412 02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:01,440 took your first running back? It? 2413 02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,880 Was it in the 13th round you took Naheem Hines? 2414 02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:07,280 Yeah. So our first running back was in 2415 02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:13,720 round 11 and then we missed on every running back pick and then 2416 02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:15,960 we finished 31st. And that was. 2417 02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:19,400 That was 2020, I think, because it was the year I had a team up 2418 02:07:19,400 --> 02:07:22,760 there as well and you had that was the Alva Kamara year, which 2419 02:07:22,760 --> 02:07:23,880 is the thing that blocked you off for all. 2420 02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:26,960 So you had a legit chance to win it basically if it if it like 2421 02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:30,240 Kamara didn't have to be the guy, but you had Mckissick and 2422 02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:33,120 Heinz just two like pass catching backs back when the. 2423 02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:34,680 Pass catching backs were a thing. 2424 02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:38,680 I feel like Julio. McLaughlin is like a throwback. 2425 02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:42,160 Yeah, yeah, we've had a few. Years where that hasn't been a 2426 02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:43,960 profile. We tried it with Gainwell and it 2427 02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:47,080 like didn't work out, no. Yeah, that's true. 2428 02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:50,040 Like Mckissick and Heinz, like we really, we haven't had guys 2429 02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:55,040 like that since. Just PPR scams basically by the 2430 02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:57,040 way I was. Going to say on McLaughlin, he 2431 02:07:57,160 --> 02:07:59,880 has gotten such rave reviews for his work ethic from like 2432 02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:05,400 everyone on the Broncos that he he then said that Troy Franklin 2433 02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:08,280 was a really hard worker and it made me be like, maybe there's 2434 02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:09,400 hope. Don't tell me that maybe there's 2435 02:08:09,400 --> 02:08:11,040 hope. If. 2436 02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:13,520 If McLaughlin thinks this dude is a hard worker, he must be a 2437 02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:16,720 hard worker, saying. That to me right now is, you 2438 02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:21,000 know, trying to offer a guy who's, you know, at rehab right 2439 02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:23,000 now, just like a a nice cocktail. 2440 02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:29,160 It's like just just don't bring. The edge off. 2441 02:08:30,080 --> 02:08:33,600 Let's see, anything else for you guys here? 2442 02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:37,600 What he got on tap scratch over on stealing signals. 2443 02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:41,760 I'm doing the different positional targets and fades 2444 02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:43,320 written up the different tiers this week. 2445 02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:45,320 Wide receiver went out yesterday, tight end this 2446 02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:47,720 morning, Q BS almost done. It's going to go out tonight, 2447 02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:50,760 running back tomorrow morning. So those will all be out for 2448 02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:53,600 drafts this weekend. Also doing like a top 75, 2449 02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:55,520 getting the rankings fresh updated. 2450 02:08:57,480 --> 02:08:59,320 Sean and I did a main event that's on the Stealing Banana 2451 02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:03,640 stream and are probably going to do another one later this week 2452 02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:05,920 or we were talking through that potentially for some more 2453 02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:07,800 content on the Stealing Bananas feed. 2454 02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:12,360 So make sure to check that out. The YouTube channel, Stealing 2455 02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:13,880 Stables YouTube channel, go subscribe to that. 2456 02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:17,240 Trying to get to subscriber milestone, working on that. 2457 02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:19,640 Might do a little bit of a stream on Sunday there. 2458 02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:22,080 So we'll see. Nice. 2459 02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:23,720 Make sure you guys are subscribed to that. 2460 02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:27,920 We got the links down below to all of that stuff for stealing 2461 02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:31,280 signals. Sean, obviously we talked about 2462 02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:34,560 the zero RB countdown list. What else should people keep an 2463 02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:37,560 eye out for over on Rotavis? Yeah, I'm gonna. 2464 02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:44,000 Do the priority targets again, probably have a look at the a 2465 02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,200 new zero RB prep kit. If you want to look at the rest 2466 02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:51,440 of the players, there'll be priority targets also for a wide 2467 02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:55,560 variety of formats. I believe that Blair was 2468 02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:58,480 actually on with Pat earlier today, but Blair Andrews has 2469 02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:01,080 been just absolutely on fire. He's doing a wonderful job. 2470 02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:04,680 I'm an enthusiast and so you can't believe me on these 2471 02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:07,800 things, but I do think that we're having our best August 2472 02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:10,600 ever in terms of content. I've been blown away by what the 2473 02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:12,200 other folks are doing, so it's been a lot of fun. 2474 02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:15,560 I agree. Completely, I mean, even like 2475 02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:20,360 the the Blair series on the breakout profiles both on wide 2476 02:10:20,360 --> 02:10:22,680 receivers and then just had the one on running backs. 2477 02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:26,280 Michael Dubner refreshed some of the running back or sorry, the 2478 02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:28,400 the rookie data and kind of looking. 2479 02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:30,600 I remember it was way back when Jack Miller and everyone had 2480 02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:33,760 looked at the like how rookie production ages as the season 2481 02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:37,400 progresses relative to veterans. And Dubner updated that entire 2482 02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:41,520 study with with new things and also segmented it within like 2483 02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:45,240 ADP tiers and cohorts to know like in which spots do you 2484 02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:47,360 actually get more value from those young guys? 2485 02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:48,680 So highly recommend. It'll blow you. 2486 02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:50,280 Away. If you're not enough of a 2487 02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:53,640 gunslinger, you'll get even more aggressive. 2488 02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:57,480 You'll start taking Jalen Wright as you're you're running back 2489 02:10:57,480 --> 02:11:01,600 too after reading that article. And yeah, Pat, I got to check 2490 02:11:01,600 --> 02:11:03,600 out that article or the podcast with Blair. 2491 02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:06,320 What else you got on Leg Up I? Actually had an. 2492 02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:08,160 Article on rookie wide receivers as well. 2493 02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:12,000 So I got to check out Dubner's updated piece, but I was 2494 02:11:12,600 --> 02:11:17,920 updating research that I did from 20/21, the same year Jack 2495 02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:22,120 had his article out where I was highlighting the fact that 2496 02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:24,680 rookie wide receivers. Especially in. 2497 02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:27,600 The late rounds like we're able to find efficiency that you 2498 02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:29,520 aren't really finding from even veteran hits. 2499 02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:32,960 So like we're getting and Puka obviously was like an absurd 2500 02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:34,640 example. I actually broke it out with 2501 02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:37,400 Puka in the chart and not in the chart because he skews the late 2502 02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:40,920 round so much. But the idea of like we're 2503 02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,400 getting a chance to get guys where we don't know if they're 2504 02:11:43,400 --> 02:11:44,840 good. But I talked through a little 2505 02:11:44,840 --> 02:11:47,640 bit like the fact that we don't know that they're good might be 2506 02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:50,440 a problem as they get more expensive and kind of thinking 2507 02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:52,840 through that a little bit. But I ultimately in a profiling 2508 02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:55,560 all the running backs who are all the wide receivers who are 2509 02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:59,640 still going in the double digit rounds did did little mini 2510 02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:02,000 profiles on how I'm tackling each of those guys. 2511 02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:07,160 And yeah, that's out right now. The article with Blair, we 2512 02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:09,440 talked through some of his pieces. 2513 02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:11,160 As Sean mentioned, he's been crushing. 2514 02:12:13,480 --> 02:12:16,000 Talked. Through the the Packers wide 2515 02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:18,360 receiver corps, the Broncos wide receiver corps, and then some of 2516 02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:22,040 the individual breakout names and working on my legendary 2517 02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:25,760 upside scenarios, which will be out next week. 2518 02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:29,160 And Sidekick now works for DraftKings. 2519 02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:32,320 If you're, if you want to check Sidekick subscribers, 2520 02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:34,960 subscribers, you should just be able to go over to DraftKings 2521 02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:36,640 and it'll start working. Don't really need to do anything 2522 02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:40,760 else if you've already got it. But yeah, check it all out at 2523 02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:43,440 legendaryupside.com. Awesome. 2524 02:12:44,320 --> 02:12:47,680 For me, best ball Bros 2024 it's going to drop Monday. 2525 02:12:47,680 --> 02:12:49,720 I think I'll do it after best ball breakfast. 2526 02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:52,400 Very excited for you guys to all see that. 2527 02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:55,200 Going to have the I we keep referencing the truth serum 2528 02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:59,080 video that'll be out on the deposit Kingdom got clips from 2529 02:12:59,080 --> 02:13:01,880 from all of these guys for that will be very fun. 2530 02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:07,120 And yeah, as Nick mentioned here on Thursday, so we we said we 2531 02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:10,200 have the crack rock draft at night, 7:00 PM on this channel 2532 02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:14,000 on my channel. We are having fantasy feud. 2533 02:13:14,240 --> 02:13:16,200 We are doing a family feud spin off. 2534 02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:19,200 It's team ship chasing. I'm recusing myself as the host, 2535 02:13:19,400 --> 02:13:22,280 but we have Davis stepping in for me to join Pat and Gretsch 2536 02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:26,440 on team Ship chasing verse Team ETR, Evan Silva, his infamous 2537 02:13:26,440 --> 02:13:30,000 return to the randomizer, along with Leone and Daigle. 2538 02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:32,600 You guys have probably seen in the Discord the survey to 2539 02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:35,400 actually fill out to help us with the questions and I'm very 2540 02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:37,040 excited guys. It's going to be very going to 2541 02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:38,640 be so fun. Yeah. 2542 02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:41,200 So that'll be 3:00 PM on Thursday. 2543 02:13:41,200 --> 02:13:43,240 So is this trivia? Like, what are we doing? 2544 02:13:43,240 --> 02:13:44,960 What are we actually? Are you familiar with? 2545 02:13:44,960 --> 02:13:48,600 Family feud we are doing. Like you're playing Family Feud, 2546 02:13:48,720 --> 02:13:49,640 All right, All right. Yeah. 2547 02:13:49,720 --> 02:13:51,560 It was like a randomized version different. 2548 02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:55,320 Is the like you know how there's the like bonus round at the end 2549 02:13:55,320 --> 02:13:58,400 where the winners do and some someone leaves from your team. 2550 02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:00,880 We might not do that, but the like teams going head to head 2551 02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:02,920 with the survey, we're gonna we're gonna be doing that. 2552 02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:05,240 So do you have us like? Each on the side like do you 2553 02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:06,760 have a stream yard set up for us? 2554 02:14:07,240 --> 02:14:09,440 I will. After our tech call this week, 2555 02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:10,800 there's a tech call for this show. 2556 02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:12,640 Pat, this is amazing. Yeah. 2557 02:14:13,320 --> 02:14:14,120 There's a tech. Call. 2558 02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:15,160 Do I need to be? On this. 2559 02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:17,200 You don't have to be on the tech call. 2560 02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:19,080 You just show up 3:00 PM on Thursday. 2561 02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:20,920 That sounds. Ideal. 2562 02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:22,480 Yes. So yeah, that'll be fun. 2563 02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:24,360 But thank you guys all for it, Buzzer. 2564 02:14:25,280 --> 02:14:26,960 There's a buzz. There's a there'll be a verbal 2565 02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:29,200 buzzer. The way I think you'll what 2566 02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:30,840 you'll do is you'll just say the answer. 2567 02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:33,320 You know, in the game they just buzz and then they say the 2568 02:14:33,320 --> 02:14:35,080 answer. So you'll just say it out there. 2569 02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:38,840 But yeah, it's gonna be wild. All right guys, have a great 2570 02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,720 rest of your weekend. Make sure you guys check out all 2571 02:14:41,720 --> 02:14:44,600 the great stuff at Stealing Signals, Rotobiz and Leg Up. 2572 02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:46,240 We'll see you guys next time on ship chasing.