All right. It's shipped last night.
We got Will Levis versus Kenny Pickett, but more importantly we
got late round QB verse Soccer Dave of course our resident
Steelers and Titans fans will be joining us tonight.
We got pick Em Sweats. We'll set those up for you and
if we hit our core pick em entry tonight on Underdog, one of you
will win $200.00. We also got of course Stephanie
Miller swinging by in the third quarter to round up the Week 9
waivers and recap our high stakes teams.
It's the ship cast with Pete, Ben, and Pat.
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Can't. Handle the heat.
It looks like we're finally fixed.
Boy, if you're right. All right, late round QB, The
question everyone's wondering. Can East Coast Dad stay up for
this entire game? That's why you.
Showed up at the start because you're like I might be asleep by
the end of the first quarter that's that's definitely part of
the reason also part of the reason was I don't know how to
read and I I should have just come in the second quarter and
so the first but I told you guys I'm staying the full first half.
I might fall asleep towards the end of the first half but look I
got I got a 10 month old so my my son and Pete's daughter are
basically the same age around the same age.
So like, I mean Pete, you're in the thick of it you know that
that you're you're now trained to just be awake at all times
even if the kids sleeping well at this point.
So I'm, I'm ready to ride. Love it.
Is it. Do you worry that it hurts Kind
of like the East Coast dad branding though when you're just
bright eyed and bushy tailed for this game right now.
Little bit, A little bit, yeah. I no, no, I did.
I did tell Pete beforehand that there's a stomach bug that like
literally, I think just hit my wife and me tonight.
So if you see a black screen hit you know my my box here you know
what's going on. So but don't don't blame the the
me being asleep or tired thing on that.
It's more so that my daughter brought something home and now
there's just something in the house because this is this is
dad life, man. All right, Gretch, Pat, how you
guys doing? I just saw an Allen Robinson
catch before I could even pull up one of our five legs here.
But we got to set up our our pick em entries.
But how are you guys feeling? Worse.
Now worse, Allen Robinson was one of the unders we took on the
five legs. So the rough sweat now.
Hey, we got a Jalen Warren catch though.
The Allen Warren reception was one of them though.
Yeah, we do have Jalen Warren in the core entry here.
This is the one that will unlock the giveaway.
So we got Jalen Warren higher than three receptions, so he
already has one. That's a good start.
Deontay Johnson 10.75 Fantasy points we got the higher there
and then will Levis 2 1/2 say sacks taken.
This is more of a late round QB pick em entry here.
I I think soccer Dave would have been more disappointed to see
this one. JJ you like these these Steelers
numbers. I dig it.
I'm all for it.
I mean look I I know that I'm like the Steelers guy from
Pittsburgh born and raised. But I'm very much like like if
you if you were to talk to 19 year old JJ, he would be super
hardcore Steelers and now I'm just kind of like I like them.
Yeah, I mean like they're still my team but it's not like I go I
feel like Soccer Dave probably likes the Titans more than I
like the Steelers is what I'm saying.
I think Soccer Dave likes the Titans more than any analyst
likes anything. I.
Love. That it just likes the Titans
When it's convenient to like the Titans, which is a fancy way to
say in the summer. Does that mean in the summer?
Yeah. So this is our three leg.
And then we did end up spinning up a couple of five leg entries.
Here, let me get those on the screen.
I will say, it seems like did Naji, has he been out on the
field for this first drive or this was Galen Warren first?
No, he got the first two touches.
He was out there. But yeah, no, it's been Warren
basically ever since. OK.
Let's see here, I'll show the five leg ones.
So we we spun it off because we had two little correlation plays
we liked. So one was playing Treyland
Burke's higher than 24 1/2 receiving yards in the same
injury with Nick Westbrook, Akina lower than 16 1/2
receiving yards. Kind of playing a usage shift
there as Treyland Burke's works back from injury.
And then the other one that we're already kind of lamenting
here, Allen Robinson, lower than 1 1/2 receptions.
He's only had one reception in each of the last two games.
It already has one. So that's going to be a brutal
sweat. And that Derek Henry under 17
1/2 rush attempts. I got to say I was I was in a
match up last week and someone had Darnell Mooney in the Monday
night game and that first play of the game happens.
Remember where he caught that like bomb down.
I'm like, you've got like he needed to not score like 11
fantasy points or something. I mean, you got to be kidding me
right now doesn't catch up past the rest of the game.
You guys are good. You're good.
That's right. I mean we we've been trying to
see. This is our thing, JJ.
If you just do all hires, you come across as a bunch of
fishes. A bunch of.
Square batters. So you mix in a couple lowers
there to make sure people know you know ball.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. I feel that.
We almost did.
Gretch was trying to sell us on a Taje Spears over as like a
sneaky kind of like it's like a line we like better than the
Henry Under, and so it's almost a sneaky Under.
But I was like can't do 5. Over scratch we.
Got to prove. The blue ball we got to prove we
know ball come. On.
But Stephanie wants to know in the chat, where did that go?
Are you JJ? Are you a nauseer Warren guy?
Because these were the great battles of best ball Twitter
this summer. Yeah.
Jalen Warren was one of my highest roster guys this year.
And nausea, I think I draft. I mean, I barely.
I think I had like 1 or 2% nausea this season.
So, I mean, I don't even know if it's AW at this point because
it's not like Jalen Warren's doing that much.
Hey, we're counting it. JJ, It's AW, I'm going to take.
And Gretch, you said this Deontay Johnson hire.
Normally I like to say Gold Star lock of the week.
You said Gold Star lock of the century, right?
I said, I've never been more sure of anything in my life than
Deontay. Going over this line.
I feel fantastic. But he just got a target wide
open. Kenny Pickett chucked it over
his head. So that's feeling great.
I mean, it's well, hey, if he was 100 feet tall, he probably
would have caught it. So is that going to be the issue
for him? There's a catch very next play.
No, his goal's been different this year.
Higher a dot in week one before he got hurt and six targets came
back a little bit higher than usual.
Like 9 point something in week whatever.
Seven was first game back, but he was efficient on that.
He caught one downfield pass. It was literally his highest
yards per target in a single game of his career with five or
more targets. There's like a 59 game sample
that this guy's never had good yards per target and then he
comes back last week and has the most air yards in a single game.
Was career. It was like 30 clear of any
other games. And he had another high, a dot,
Like 14 + a dot. It's been a little bit
different. That was sort of the idea.
He's only ever played with late stage Ben Roethlisberger and
rookie Kenny Pickett Could Year 2.
Kenny Pickett actually pushed Deonte down the field a little.
We might actually get like an average yards per target.
I think it's gonna happen. There it is.
I think it's gonna That was a downfield target.
The downfield target. That was the dictionary
definition of downfield. Pat, was that a splash zone
target or too close to the side? No, it was too close to the
sideline. But hey, we'll take it, man.
All right, Pull in your targets. I don't care where.
JJ, where are you with us? So we're all watching Amazon
Prime on our computers, I believe.
Same, same. I think you guys are a play
ahead of me. OK, I I I guess Internet.
I've had plenty of Internet issues during the last year here
in in outside of Charlotte. So maybe that's part of it.
Do you have a phone? The phone.
Yeah, the phone. Handy would be the way to go for
some reason. Is the phone back?
Oh my God, no. She.
Knows this these squirt. Yeah, we almost did an IG under
and then I I was like I think I just want to do this.
I don't see any lines that actually makes sense.
I'll tell you what ranking rank because I do rankings and stuff
now with my Patreon and whatnot and like I I historically have
not been like a big rankings guy that kind of deal.
But I'm a sell out and so every week I've I've like had the
hardest time ranking Naji versus Jalen Warren.
I I I'm crossing my fingers that I had Naji ahead of Jalen Warren
this week but they're used to just like.
I mean it's like even for like an expected fantasy points
perspective like everything is like the same right.
It's just like flipping a coin every week between.
But don't we all have to admit. And I'd say this is someone who
like, took one share of Naji all year, but he's like playing some
of his best. Football like he's playing much
better than he. Yeah, since the buy, he's been
pretty good for a couple games. There's a primacy bias there, I
think where he he had right out of the gate, he had like some
better rushing efficiency than we were used to, but like in the
rush roads over expected. He's a negative now.
His success rate isn't good, so he's actually been, he's been
bad in all the receiving stuff. He hasn't been as bad as like he
normally is, but he's still been pretty bad.
He stinks. That's the best ball of his
career. He's been.
Not quite terrible. It's the best football of his
career and he's basically Devin Singletary.
It's been great, right? You're grading on the naughty
curve. He's crushing his previous
versions of himself. That's my fault.
I just, I just want there's stuff like, you know, Kyle was
like, Oh my God, he's crushing and rushed yards are expected in
like Week 3 and like those days are over.
He's actually way down from that.
So let's see here Shout out to everyone hanging out in the the
chat tonight. Like I said, if we hit this core
entry here, we will unlock a $200.00 giveaway.
And yeah, we we're in good. We're in good shape here.
It's nice seeing you and Warren getting that first catch there.
Although I guess we need the if. If the Steelers really start to
boat race them, then we start to worry a little bit about the
receiving numbers. I think.
Yeah. What was the line?
Sure. 3 3 receptions. OK, OK.
And then Deontay needs 10 something fantasy points, but he
got even in half, he got 4.2 on that first drive.
That's, I mean that was a good first draft.
That was a good first draft. Yeah.
JJ where do you. Because I feel like one of the
other main national talking points about the Steelers has
been Matt Canada. And it's like it seems like he
like Naji is the ultimate punching bag and yet he never
goes away it. Does Matt Canada need to go?
Yeah. Yeah.
You know it's hilarious is like like there's nothing better than
when I go home to because I live in Charlotte now for for folks
who don't know. And so the but the best is going
back home to Pittsburgh and turning on sports talk radio and
listening to like the yinzer accent and just like people just
going nuts and stuff and every single topic when you go.
We went back this was back in like early August people were
already talking about hating on Canada even before the season
started And then like the Penguins season starts like the
hockey season right. And there's a fire Canada chant
going on at at the at the arena like like this is how down bad
Matt Canada is in the city of Pittsburgh.
I'm with them though man. I mean it's it's it's rough.
It's very, very rough. Yeah, it's it's interesting too,
because I. How did you guys not go with
Blame Canada? You got the South Park song
there? Yeah.
I don't know. I also thought it was.
I thought it was a little risky. Also to to have a Fire Canada or
Blame Canada Type Chan at a hockey game.
I mean, my God, there's a lot. I mean a lot of Canadians going.
You just sing. You could sing Blame Canada
anywhere. I feel like that's more festive.
You can do it. It works better for other
sports. Hey, Kitchen, the Steelers are
up 7. Nothing, buddy.
Is that why you came on to to try to restore the the Titans?
Yeah, I had a Naji Harris first touchdown score, so.
I knew it was gonna happen. Cool.
Cool man. Hitchin actually placed a bet on
every single player to score first touchdown so he could come
on the the air and say he had the first touchdown score.
He lost $900. Favorite part about this is Pete
telling us that, yeah, usually guests show up in the second
quarter and JJ being like I didn't, I didn't, I I clearly
didn't thoroughly read what we we sent him a message on the
side and we're like JD, you can come at the beginning.
Come before kitchen gets in your place.
No, I just kitchen. A message on the side.
I was like J JS here early. Feel free to come whatever you
want and then. Dave was like, I'll get over
here, yeah, I told the I told the girls, like, you got to put
yourselves to bed tonight and then it's like, why?
I was like, well, it all started with a guy named Late Round 2B
Once Upon a time, here's your night time story.
Yes. So well Kitchen, we appreciate
you joining us. I know you generally like to be
just laser focused and watch every single little lettuce snap
on your own. So for you I'm missing some some
flash drafts for this so you can multi task.
You. Can multi task Will Levis is
about to go 90 yards on the Steelers defense and I am
absolutely here for it. I will say though, Steelers
electing to receive the ball was ballsy.
Like usually you wouldn't. You wouldn't think at home you
would do that. I guess they had something to
prove. This is the most analysis of the
coin toss decision that I've heard.
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a 5050 thing.
Kitchen Know what? I mean, well, no electing to
receive to start the half like you.
You would think that they would want to put levels.
On fields to start. Oh, put them on.
Yeah, they're at, they're at home, right.
Get the rookie QB and get good field position to start the to
start your drive and you get the ball at the end of or at the
beginning of the second-half. Do you guys not do you guys not
believe that there is a distinct advantage of having the ball to
start the second-half. No.
I think that I think that we're. I'm just ribbing you.
At least that's that's what we all even when kitchen makes a
good point you just keep ribbing them That's I want to go I want
to go back to how many first TD score tickets you had you you
had just not. Let's dive into how many did you
have. Yeah I didn't actually have.
I didn't actually have any first touchdown scores.
I don't do. I just did not want JJ to have
the satisfaction of the Steelers being up 7.
Nothing and acting like it did not hurt me.
Look at who. Oh wow.
What? Roughing the passer?
Yeah, I went. I went to my phone.
I'm now ahead of Kitchen, So I I I feel good that I'm.
I'm. Yeah, kitchen's like 90 seconds
behind us now. Hang on.
For people who don't know, because Kitchen and JJ have
known each other for a long time.
Kitchen. Where does JJ fall?
I want to yeah. I want to hear this.
I don't think that JJ is a part
of the tree. But JJ is in the Grove, right?
Like JJ is yeah, to to not to not to be fair, you introed me
to a lot of the DFS, some some DFS folks and stuff 100% and I
was I have always. Been in J JS corners since like
day one. Back before, he was like a big
shot and like big timing and making everyone work around his
schedule like he was. He was just a regular guy
producing this memo. With this like ground breaking
thing as far as late round QB and I was on board with it and
he was a part, he was a part of the fancy insider shows, yeah,
it's past interference. Can't do that.
What Kitchen is saying is in a lot of ways, he invented late
round quarterback. I'm not going to say I invented
it, but I did draft a quarterback late that year that
I. Came up with this did JJ notice
it and was like everybody's drafted Michael Vick but kitchen
I I spent a year working directly under you.
I don't think I've ever heard heard from you or or known if if
I'm in your tree. I'm.
I'm very curious about that on too.
I know pad is and Pete is they. You've claimed them.
You're not. But he's claimed you.
No, Pat. Pat has grafted himself onto the
tree. I There's a part of like the
daily fantasy part of of this where I what I like is I like
guys that have good personalities.
Now. Now you guys don't fit exactly
into that category. But for the majority of of guys,
guys that because I think if you know Ball, that's why you got
Davis Matic, of course. Yeah if you know ball and you
have like a good personality I believe that like it is a good
mix to mix those type of personalities with guys that do
play daily fantasy because it because those guys are just all
about like oh celery caps and all game theory and to have
someone ADP the the have someone that can just break things down
from the game level. So that's why I think like like
JJ and Silva and these guys that were a part of the the you know
the original kind of fantasy Insider's tree Drew Dinkmeyer
Leone. Those guys, like we had a lot of
fun back in the day and so it's it's it's fun seeing everyone
kind of grow up even even Davis. You know so were you guys what
were weren't weren't you both at that conference where Davis was
it the infamous like tie dye or bro I got, I got AI have a
picture. I'm on my phone because of this
freaking game because I had to catch up with you guys.
But I have a picture of Matic is San Francisco 2014, I think
Kitchen. Yeah. 2014.
Odell Beckham year. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. So, so this, this 18 year old
kid who's who's telling everyone that Odell Beckham sucks, shows
up, shows up to this conference, middle of the conference where
someone someone's like talking about something that no one was
really listening to. And then Matic.
But you know, at the end of like a really boring panel, they're
like, do you have any questions? You're like please don't.
No one asks questions. Like, I got to get out of here
and like get tea or something like that just to get the heck
out of this place. And Matic decides to stand up
and ask a question wearing a bucket hat and a tie dye T-shirt
at this conference. And question.
And you're missing one key thing.
And marijuana leaf socks. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, do you remember the? Question Go, go, go.
I can't imagine Davis asking a question at a conference now.
Like he would never do that. No, no, it was.
It was definitely pretty irrelevant.
The question I I don't remember what.
I don't remember what the panel was.
The best part is like he stood up and like took off his hat
like that would make. It like.
He got the He looks like he literally got picked off off the
street. I mean like it it's it's it was
rough. Oh.
Man, But I loved it. I I mean, I I did.
I mean it's a part of the bit saying oh you know Davis, but I
like that I I like you know, I like seeing Josh Moore walk
around with the 444 red tracksuit.
Yeah, so like those like that stuff you know there was back in
back in 2014 like DFS was the the red headed stepchild.
You know it was looked down upon by the rest of the industry.
You know, we had like our own little table at the at the back.
But it was not until these sites started like just dumping money
on these like, season long fantasy sites to promote their
affiliates that they're like, yeah, you know what?
You know, Daily Fantasy's OK. So that's kind of how it was
like back in the day I'm pretty crazy to believe is 10 years
ago. That was my, that was my first
like real experience with a lot of the DFS, like the high stakes
DFS folks and stuff. Like Jennings was there and and
Smith was there and stuff and I'd never met them before and
you know, got to hang out with them and stuff.
And I remember that was, I believe that was the, the week
or the time period where people were grinding MLMLB, right?
Because it was in the middle of June.
And I think it was one of the games where like Coors Field had
the fire hydrant situation where like the the fire hydrant
exploded or something like that. And there was water everywhere.
So they had to cancel the Coors game.
And I never see, like I hadn't been around DFS in that exposure
to like the amount of money they were playing.
And like all of that. I I just, I was, I had no idea
that it was as big as it was. And I see these dudes just
losing thousands of dollars. And I'm like, this is, this is
batshit like, this is insane. What's?
Going on right now, all because of a freaking tire hydrant.
But that was my that was my first exposure to it all.
Yeah, that was that was a crazy night.
Tommy G was at the blackjack tables and like, putting $100.
Or maybe it was roulette putting $100 bills every time and just
losing every time, and so by the end he was putting $20 bills.
OK, it quickly changed. But man, those were just, those
are wild times. We were talking about that in
the office today about just the evolution of fantasy and how it
has just widened so much. Because back in the day it was
pretty much just like, you know your season long and and that
was it. There was a few dynasty leagues
for the hardcore people. Don't tell me what happened,
Pete. Sorry.
Levis Sack. Yeah, we we have sacks.
We have over 2 1/2 sacks taken. Sorry.
Kitchen. Get out of here.
What's the what's the hold? They'll decline a hold.
Hi Smith man. No.
Do they grab. I didn't see the Yeah, it's got
to be illegal grabbing. It's offsides.
What What's the what's the signal kitchen for illegal
grabbing. Yeah, show us.
Is that. I think it's.
I think it's on. Yeah, that's what they know.
OK. Yeah, giving them the business.
I only watch. I only look at spreadsheets.
I don't watch the games offsides.
I told you there's a reason why he got to him so fast.
Are you even? Have you even seen the play yet?
Yeah, he's unblocked. He's unblocked.
Imagine that when you when you jump 1/2 a second in front
anyways. Oh wait, it was illegal
evolution. Oh, it was the BB that was
offside. It wasn't even the D end.
What was that? Joey's border freaking slot
corner line. Joey Porter lined up across the
line as well. So Joey?
Joey Porter. I he went to my high school,
Penn State, yeah, And then he went to Penn State.
But he went to my high school. So I got to, I got to, I got to
wrap some Joey Porter junior. Is this just a story you say to
Trump, Denny, when he talks about Kevin Durant going to his
high school? Yeah.
Then he makes that up. There's no way that's real.
Yeah. No.
Oh, DeAndre Hopkins. Don't you get sacked.
Hopkins. That doesn't help us.
Well, that doesn't help us, does it?
That would be an official sack and it wouldn't be a Levis
higher. It wouldn't be a Levis sack.
Yeah. You know that kitchen Is Traylon
Burks ever going to be a thing? I did put him in a parlay for
over 23 1/2 yards. That that's legit.
We haven't. Been one of that too.
Yeah, I love the the chat is like Lol.
Kitchen was right. Kitchen knows ball and then
someone goes. It wasn't even the guy that
sacked him. Kitchen you goofball.
I've got it up on a side window. Let me Speaking of Burks let me
ask you guys this. So I do that we we have a main
event team meet the me Silva Matic Reef Norman main event
team. Yeah yeah yeah.
And we had we had our last spot was down to Roshan or Traylon
tonight which way would you guys have gone.
Trailing. Trailing.
That's what we I'm going to play Roshan.
I don't know. Yeah let's close I mean it's
you're you're you're praying for seven points I mean let's be
real but how is how is that team doing.
I vaguely I remember listening to that episode.
I can't remember your players or we well we we took cup.
I think we're five and three right now we took cup and then
you know the team's fine. We have like Lamar and stuff and
it's it's doing all right. So we're we're definitely hoping
for playoffs but it's not as like baller as as it could have
been. Yeah, as it probably should be
with five fantasy analysts drafting a team together.
Well, I. But sometimes there's too many
cooks in the kitchen. You're like, I know we we
agreed. Well, the part of the problem is
that like like whenever we go, oh, Dang, TJ Watson.
Oh, that's gonna be hands of the face.
It's gotta be hands of the face on the offensive line.
That's grabbing on the offense. Grabbing on the offense, Yeah.
Grabbing the thing with that draft, though, was that like,
you have Thorman, who's gonna be pretty quiet.
Reeves is fairly quiet. Like, I'm not gonna really be
confrontational during it, so it's really just Maddock and
Evan just going back and forth the entire time.
But Davis capitulates in that environment far more than he
normally does. He he defers to the big dog
pretty quickly. Yeah.
Yeah, no, that's true. That's very fair.
That's what gets me about Davis is that he has strongly held
opinions until someone else says something different.
And he's like, you know what? You're probably right.
Like, I mean Davis's grip on his opinions is loosened like to
like it's almost concerning now how Lucy's.
Grip is he's he's changing his opinions like.
He's got a baby grip strength. It's very, Tyler says. 5 fantasy
analysts is way too many. Someone take a screenshot.
Of that's real quick. Can we get?
A touchdown here. I hate to break it to you,
buddy. Just spoil it out here, but just
kick the ball through the big yellows thing.
Still successful Drive starting your own tan.
You go to the other tan and will Will Levis look decent enough?
Competent enough? Yeah.
Got one sack out of that? We'll take.
I was going to just say here, Jalen Warren, one reception.
Deontay Johnson up to 4.2 fantasy points.
Will Levis, One sack taken. Nice pace.
Chats excited. Chats excited 200 bucks on the
line for somebody. There are too many fantasy
analysts on Twitter. There's too many fantasy
analysts. Period.
It's not wrong. Like it's not wrong.
A. Lot of actually.
I thought, I want to get your guys take on this, 'cause I see
it pop up every once in a while. Like, what is your guys's take
on the the Fantasy Receipts account?
I don't follow. I think it's meme spirited, I
think. I think it's an OK concept that
he executes horribly. I agree it's so poorly done.
Like it would have been a fun concept if it had some kind of
fun spin to it And he's awful at it.
Like if you look at if you look at old takes exposed the way
that that guy handles it because it's it's just like a sarcastic
like 1 liners. Like no beef.
Like, it's just a dude that's just having fun with it.
And then fantasy receipts could be great.
And there are some tweets that are really good that they send
that that like, you know, own the analyst.
But then when you get in the beef and when there's like the
drama behind it all, that's whenever it gets.
Kitchen kitchen's all quiet right now because he's the one
who's running the account. Notice they've never said
anything about me, but they're not watching the school cast to
grab to grab clips from there. So we're fine.
I don't know who you are. You're so old.
The one. Yeah, GBT says I'm one of the
most influential fantasy football analysts.
But do y'all follow the fan? Is that?
Yeah, it's like they had, they had a really good tweet today.
Sometimes it's what you used to do with the Roto fake Roto blurb
account. Oh, oh, nice.
Yeah, that does, Yeah, Yeah. Today I used to do Roto blurb.
That helped me get hired at Rotoworb.
By the way, that's like they're. Like can you blurb?
I was like, well, I used to do big versions of your blurbs is
that today's tweet was Arthur Smith reveals that fantasy
football killed his parents. Yeah, that's great.
It's just like a classic tweet because of how riled up that
that fantasy football and NFL Twitter gets at Arthur Smith.
Speaking of which, JJ, you you get some Really interesting
people in your mentions and I always loved the way you handle
it. But you had one with Arthur
Smith earlier. Oh my God, there was one dude.
Oh my God, what do you call you? He called you something
obnoxious. Yeah, it was basically this
dude, like called me out rant. So Josh Norris had sent the
tweet out saying that Arthur Smith was unlikable because of
him saying the toxic groupthink thing about Desmond Ritter
because, like, reporters were were like, hey, are you going to
bench him? Or, like, what's going on with
Desmond Ritter Because he sucks and you're literally not doing
anything about it. And then he was like, oh, that's
just toxic groupthink. You're not watching the film.
That's basically what his answer was.
And so Norris responds and says that the way that Arthur Smith,
like, basically treats reporters and acts is he makes him very
unlikable. And I was like, I quote tweeted
Norris. And I was like exactly the the
the people think that it's just like we hate the way that Arthur
Smith uses Kyle Pitts and Drake London, but it's beyond that.
It's that he's just a very unlikable dude.
Like he like everything he says in the media and and obviously
the way that he, you know, handles those guys, we don't
like. But like you know, the way what
he says the media and how he talks about fantasy football and
just like, it's just stupid. It's just silly.
And so I I commented on that and then some dude randomly comes at
me saying that I had like a huge ego because I thought that I was
better than Arthur Smith at coaching and that I'm not a
reporter and I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Just going on and on and on, but my favorite part was later in
this thread. He winds up going on like A7
explanation of he knows like everything, the back story of
everything. You never when she Kyle Pitts,
he tells exactly what's wrong with Kyle Pitts.
He's not getting open. He's not hitting his blocks, his
router crap. I just found this.
It's the whole thing. Arthur's offense is about taking
advantage of matchups. Like he knows the whole thing.
It's like he's calling you egotistical because you don't
agree with his extremely exactly.
Exactly. And then all.
I'm like dude I just called him unlikable like it doesn't matter
it doesn't matter the the right now I'm getting fried from
people because I said that that all all all I said from that Pat
McAfee Nick Saban thing. Did you guys see that earlier
today the yeah the analytics thing.
Yeah Nick Saban's quote was a lot of people are going for it
on 4th down now and they talk about analytics saying you've
got this percentage chance to make it.
What the analytics don't tell you is what happens when you
don't make it and those consequences are pretty
significant. And so and.
So all the. Team gets the ball.
It's just, it's just complete. It's just complete bullshit.
Like it's just, it's not even, it's not real.
And so all I said is how is this real?
That's the only thing that I said when I quote tweeted it.
And now everyone's coming at me and they're like, did you coach
A-Team to a national champion? Dude, this is about math and
it's not doing football. How dare you criticize Nick
Saban? The best though, I got Pete Go.
Ahead. Oh, I was just going to say part
of that press conference, or maybe it was last week's Arthur
Smith one. He referenced Veep in one of his
quotes, which is so ironic because he is like a Veep
character where you're so smug and condescending and think you
know everything, but you're actually a total buffoon with
like no credentials to do what you're doing.
And I was like you, quoting Veep Chef's gifts.
Who's the tall guy? Yeah, the buffoon.
The literal. Yeah.
Jonah. Jonah.
Yeah, exactly. This one dude in that thread was
just going like I had some time, had like 1/2 hour.
So I'm like, I'm going in, let's do, let's do this, let's have
some fun. So because I got to just be, I
have to have the free time slash be in the mindset to actually go
back and forth with strangers on the Internet like this.
I did back in, you know back in the day.
I just don't do it anymore. And so this one guy goes, dude,
no one is getting win probability stats within 10
seconds of the time the previous play ended to the time it takes
to make a decision on 4th down. That's not how things work.
No coach has that. Not Stefanski, Harbaugh, or any
other analytical heavy head coaches.
So I then just googled and I took a screenshot of an article
in the article says on game days, Harbaugh has people who
beat him, the analytical numbers for certain situations straight
through his headset. They literally have it in real
time. The most hilarious thing is this
guy's acting like headsets, like in an invention.
Like you like, like, it's just it's like like you got to use
like Morse code. They're doing like hand signals
for the food, for for, for Windows.
The best part is that guy also probably has a tweet in his
archives where he's like, it's the 21st century.
How do we not have a chip in the ball that tells us when it's a
first down? It's just the same dude.
Exactly. I mean that is true though.
Have you, have you ever watched tennis games like tennis
matches, like on the fly with these it is, it is like what
about the body part touching the ground?
In football there's two elements.
There's a football and when the knee hits the ground, if only
technology could handle two things at once.
What did they say was the reason?
Are we going to put chips in their knee pads, their ass pads,
their shoulder pads, their helmet, their elbows?
Like what was the reason? Because they like, don't they
already have all the technology done in, like in place?
But they like I, I. They came out with a reason as
to why they don't use the chip. And I can't remember what that
reason was. People like Gretch.
It's the boomers trying to see it.
What's next? We can't do it.
We got to unload the whole truck at Walmart and not just self
checkout phase. Yeah.
So makes the game too fast. Probably.
It's not. I've heard a lot of people make
the tennis point. It's not the same as tennis.
It's not How tilted were you? How tilted were you at the pitch
clock? Gretch, I love the pitch clock.
I I actually, I'm not a boomer. I like technology and sports.
I'm just saying it's not as easy as the tennis.
Look, there's a chip in the ball You could at least like know.
OK the ball's here for sure. We know that.
That's a fact. And now we just got to figure
out what the knee went down or whatever.
Well, and you can at least say like it progressed this far.
Exactly, yeah. Like if it's exactly, you know,
like the ball never crossed the goal line.
We know that. Like it never crossed the goal
line. So it doesn't matter when knee
went down, 'cause it never crossed the goal line.
Yeah, that's fair. They should definitely use it
for like goal line stuff. Kitchen boots on the ground.
What? What?
It's what has it been like in in Tennessee this week?
Are you at like the grocery store?
And you can just kind of feel like the buzz in the air because
of Will Levis. We're like high fiving people
and like giving people, like people that are wearing like
Titans gear. You're like you're just doing
the head nod and stuff. Are you doing like go along with
the bread loaf like just like I I, I swear our little friend,
friend group, you know, the locals, you know the guys who
would call in on sports talk radio and give their opinion,
we're we're talking about, you know for the past few weeks
Titans just have to tank. They just have to tank and go
get Caleb Williams. And I was like saying like
they're not bad enough to tank. And then they got rid of Kevin
Byard and traded him to Philadelphia and was like, OK,
that might be like an obvious move that they want to tank.
And then they start, well Levis, well, Levis goes nuclear and by
the 2nd touchdown we went from, we have to tank to we can use a
15th overall pick to, you know, secure an offensive line behind
future first ballot Hall of Famer Will Levis.
And I leaned so much into that because I'm just like a positive
person. I'm a glass half full person.
So like even if the in the back of my head I know like this is
probably not sustainable. I just love the environment of
like, positivity and just. Hope like, I'm not a Tennessee
Vols fan, but I love when this group of guys, when Tennessee's
winning because like the atmosphere and the environment
is so unrealistically positive that I just feed off of it.
Well, that's what like Jennings was saying with like the
atmosphere in Colorado, with prime time in in CU, where it's
like even people who weren't college fans are just getting
swept up in it because it's it's so electric.
It's almost undeniable. Yeah, yeah.
And and you got like Derrick Henry who were like, we got to
trade him to now, like, yeah, let's.
He can be a part of this rebuild.
You know, reload. Not not even a rebuild.
So jeez, how funny was it this story was in 2323, Gretch.
It's like a good time for the cig.
This is this is they might they'll probably just, like run
it. I know they'll just run it three
times just to punt the ball in the position.
Oh, shotgun. No back.
Not with Will Levis, baby. It's a It's a New Era kitchen.
Where where are you watching? This oh oh.
He stood back there, delivered 35 yards.
Ballot Hall of Famer. Oh man, is that Highsmith
Mountain. I think Highsmith just tore his
ACO. Oh.
No, no, that's my, that's my. You guys like that spicy?
Take that that instance. Oh, no.
But I wasn't even past it. DeAndre.
Yeah, that's how I know you're a Homer.
You weren't even watching Nuke. You were just watching your
Pittsburgh defender there. Yeah, such a.
Such a steal. Oh he was guarding Nuke on the
play. Oh no he got clipped.
I mean it wasn't non contact so maybe it's a bone bruise like I
I think that's a he leaked into the air so it might not like it
wasn't should I get off and you guys get AI guess Chow on and I
didn't see who that was. What number was it?
55. OK, so that's that's cool whole.
I've been DM in chow kitchen to come on the ship cast for.
I thought he was a cheap they give like medical opinions like
bone bruise chip on the knee like he does.
I thought you wanted to go to a fan.
Do you know the numbers of every player on the Steelers?
Not every. I mean I know.
No, I mean like, I I watch them and have them on.
But yeah, I don't know. It's it's more just like
osmosis. I'm just like I I follow people
on Twitter that are like Pittsburgh people and stuff
still and you just got to keep things pop up and I haven't,
like, answered really well. All right.
JJ, could I Could I ask you one what I just ripped up Cole?
Harris, if you can name their number.
Oh, God. All right, here we go.
I'm. I'm.
I'm not going to go super hard, but I'm also not going to go
easy. Darnell Washington.
What number is Darnell Washington, 88?
No, I think he's 80. JJ is good.
It's. Let me get one more for you
here. Mason Rudolph.
He's not on the roster anymore. No, he is.
He is. He's he's, he was.
I'm assuming he's still wearing two.
I just haven't seen Mason Rudolph in like a year and a
half. A little.
Bit gross speaking. Speaking of Mason Rudolph, Jason
Rudolph played like like he's How many games has he started in
his career? Probably like 7.
Fifth Denzel Mims. Don't worry, kitchen.
It's now your turn, buddy. All right, let me get you.
All right. Wide receiver Chris Moore.
That's easy. Oh, I think he's like, I think
he's in the team. I don't think he's.
I don't. I don't think he's in the 80s.
I think he's like 16 or something. close, close 11.
Isn't that trailer 11? Isn't trailer 16?
Yeah, that's trailer's the. I'll give you another shot.
Kyle Phillips, my boy. I think I know.
Kyle. Are you even a fan?
What are you guys talking about? Yeah, but I'm not.
I'm not like, I'm not like JJ. Like, I guess kitchen.
Just say all numbers look the same. 87.
He's in the 80s. Kyle Phillips.
Is he eleven? No, we just did.
Chris, we literally just said 80.
Is he is he 81? Teens flipped 18.
Oh, he's 1818. 18. Oh, we said Chris Moore was 11.
I missed that. It's like I I I should get half
credit for 81. Yeah, I'll give Kitchen one more
for redemption. We're just going through all the
wide receivers. Nick Westbrook, Akina.
So a chance. I know this one.
Oh, I know this one. Damn kitchen.
Doesn't know why my daughter saw 1414 so close. 1515.
Come on, kitchen. I thought you were the biggest
Titans fan in like the world. I like.
I like the Titans. But I'm not.
I I don't go like on message boards like JJ, like one of my
burner accounts. Kitchen, will you join my take
that I've gotten lambasted for on this show, which is when
we're watching the game, all numbers look the same.
These guys have tried to shame me for not knowing who caught
the ball. And my take is all numbers look
the same. Kitchen.
They don't have much to, like stand on if you say no.
I look at their. I look at their bodies or their
features like use their bodies. Someone clicked.
That. I like I know.
Look. At their bodies.
Like, I know if it's Kyle Phillips or DeAndre Hopkins,
like I know where their body is, but but if you saw them nude,
you'd definitely, I know that body.
I don't see numbers. I look at their bodies exactly.
I don't think certainly that's getting much harder.
For Kitchen to identify or like Nick, or like Nick, Westbrook,
Keene, I know who that is because their their name plate
on the back is just like it's like all letters.
I just saw Kyle Phillips got a pass.
I knew that because he's 18. What is happening?
Did you all see that? Yeah.
Like a heart. Oh my God.
What? What did you say look at?
It what camera do you are you What are you?
That's your camera only. Do.
That again do. Some more.
Shit. Can you do like a make like a
big :) Oh my God doesn't anything.
Give a thumbs up. Give a positive guy.
Give a thumbs up. I'm a positive guy.
Which is? Just what happens?
Does a thumbs up do? A thumbs up do?
You have any other tricks or is it just hearts?
This is like, he had this in his.
He had this in his back pocket for when he was starting to get
bullied by all four of us. He was like, I want to do the
heart thing. It's funny that I wasn't even a
heart thing. I was doing this.
He's actually just doing this. He's making YouTube thumbnails
right now. Love when?
To release some love the way you release the hearts, It's just
the first Stream Yard magician. Fly away little hearts.
How? Would that happen?
I was in Cat's kitchen. I was as shocked as you guys
were. This is why people.
If I I'm almost gullible enough to try it.
Myself to see. If I know I did, but I did, I
couldn't get it. It's only AI did it immediately.
Oh God. JJ, do you want to try it?
No, I'm definitely not. Definitely not.
You look, you look like a you look, you look awesome when it
works and you look like a total moron when it doesn't.
Yeah, I don't feel great right now.
This is. This is Kitchen trick to
distract us from not knowing any Titans numbers.
It works. It just so happens that this
comes after Kitchen talking about the Titans body like the
body types. No, wait.
I got this trick. I can make hearts.
I completely forgot that. That's what we've been talking
about. All right, I got one for you.
You can totally redeem yourself. You ready?
Will Levis 8. Oh, you knew it.
You missed that. I only knew that because of the
Marcus Mariota and all like the Jersey memes and everything
else. So Oh my God, yeah.
And Kitchen, have you ordered a a Levis jersey yet or a shirt?
I want like am I just. For the bit, For the bit, For
the bit. What was your what was your
like? What was your stance whenever
they drafted him? Sure, why not?
Like if he drops to the second round, Sure, why not.
I didn't know if there were like some truther or whenever, like
before the the draft or anything.
No, I I really wanted Anthony Richardson.
And at that time there were rumors that the Titans were
going to trade up for either Richardson or he's going to fall
to them or they were going to trade up for Stroud.
I I was on board with both of those and so will Levis when he
basically fell. Like he did.
I was like, OK, why not let's take a chance.
And but again all there was so much hate because he played at
Kentucky and he wasn't very good at Kentucky and Tennessee.
Like beat them really bad. And so all these Homer Ball fans
were like, he can't even beat the balls.
And I'm not like, I'm not kidding.
Like it. It really spills over when your
college team in the South. Oh yeah, Faces is someone and
they don't do it. There it is, Pat.
Love this call. There's Highsmith.
I love it. Pat crushed this.
We had, we wanted we wanted to love us over.
We We talked a few different things.
We considered the rushing because he rushed, what, four
real times with two kneel downs and it was only 10 1/2 yards I
think. So that one was pretty
interesting. But yeah, I I pushed, I steered
to the to the sax because of his college profile.
He took a lot of sacks in college.
And the Steelers have a good pass rush was you had me when
you said he's Willis level at taking sacks.
So I was like, all right, he's now, he's nowhere near Willis
level. In college's sack rate was
pretty damn close to Willis's. OK, I mean, all you gotta say is
like this. This Titan's offensive line is
trash. And yeah, again, JJ Watt.
But he does seem to be a trait of his that he's Yeah, which TJ
is it gonna TJ? Willis.
Willis has translated about as like one for one as it's gonna
translate but. Oh come on give us that.
They got Joey Porter on on DeAndre Hopkins and he just
shoved him out of balance and yeah, like dude, he's Joey
Porter. Junior's been pretty legit so
far. That was a you know it was a man
wasn't he a late round pick too. Well he ended up he they they
got him with the with the Claypool pick from Chicago.
So the the first it was technically like a first
rounder. What team?
Miami lost their first rounder last year, right?
Yes, 32nd overall because they traded Chase Claypool for a
second and then they end up being the 1st, the 1st pick in
the round. Wow, my wow.
I just got a news thing. Cole Holcomb suffered a knee
injury. Will not return.
I think you may have successfully diagnosed that.
I think. I I think I nailed it in
seconds. I don't know.
This guy I trust said it was just a bone Bruce.
Bone, Bruce. I said that's better.
If it's not non contact it could be a canal all right.
Someone just tagged me and the ship chasing and it is a pretty
the screenshots for the thumbnails for this next World
cast are going to be really good because it's the heart.
The heart. Yes, it's going to be good.
I'm going to have to search your your name.
I mean, that is so good. Oh, that is just so good.
Just the delight the kitchen has in the dive.
That is fantastic. And then just like that, beside
this picture of Tomlin, who looks like he's about to kill
somebody, somewhat down to do a meme where it's the heart, and
then put Will Levis getting sacked in between and then.
JJ, what's your what's your take on on Pittsburgh?
Like, oh man, purgatory for the next decade.
Yeah, it's it's kind of what it seems like and that's what I
don't want from the Titans. I don't want them to either be
really bad or or like this guy works out but.
Here's the thing I'm at my the level of fandom that I'm at is
that I just like fun things to happen.
Like Kenny Pickett going to the Steelers.
I loved, 'cause it was fun, 'cause I, you know, I'm a pit
grad and like, I I, I, like, was there when they won the ACC
couple, you know, a few years ago here in Charlotte.
And, like, it's just, it's a fun story.
And so that's cool. But yeah, I mean, like, he's not
good and they're they're going to be.
They're going to be stuck in this position because the
Steeler, the problem with the Steelers organization is they
assume that they can just win every single year and they're
they're just in this perpetual like like oh we're never going
to rebuild kind of mentality and it just means that you know
first round playoff exits if they make it.
They've been calling, throwing a lot of flags and.
Then they oh, oh that. Was Calvin Austin.
He dropped it. They didn't call a really clear
DPI on a slant pattern. To.
Jalen Warren was wide open in the flat.
Just. Yeah, Speaking of Kenny Pickett
there, there was a, there was a a fan at the stadium today.
I saw on my Twitter feed, this is what I'm talking about.
I just have like all these like random.
That's the first down. If he checks it down to Jalen
Warren there, that's a pretty good ball down field.
What happened? Did it hit the defender's arm?
You know it wasn't like a terrible decision that the
defendant chasing the play had his back to the play the whole
way. I think he got lucky and just
stuck his hand up and knocked it away.
But there was a a fan at the stadium with a on the back of
the jersey was 00, was the number 00 and it said Fire
Canada as the name and the. I guess the reporter asked him
like what was what it was all about And he's like something
along the lines of like that's how many points we score every
game with Canada's are. Hang on real quick.
I want to give kitchen some redemption.
What number does Fire Canada wear?
That was good 00 Where's the heart?
Where's the heart? Oh no.
Disappear. There we.
Go This is the dumbest part. Of the trick I've.
Ever seen and I love it. What other stuff can you make?
Is this your camera that does this?
There has to be something. Else other than.
Like boss star and get you stars kitchen.
What kind of camera is it? And I'll Google it.
I'm gonna I'm gonna get you do like jazz hands Google Camera
that makes hearts the camera this is not on the camo setting.
This is just my like general vibe C920 like this is.
It's just the C 920. There's the basic Logitech.
You're JDF CS been yelling that it's an Oval camera.
But are you telling me this camera does one thing only and
it makes it's not a camera thing, it's a software thing.
You guys just aren't making something else good enough.
Hard another. Software.
What software is it? I think it's.
I think it's Stream Yard. I just don't think Gretch is
making good hearts. I'm making the same fucking
hearts. You have a fucking virus to
Twitter. It did do another trick.
There has to be another trick. It just showed up.
I don't know. Googling Stream Yard hearts.
If I didn't find out you could do this.
It's because I was making an analogy.
And then I did this and it also did the spot.
You didn't stumble on this. Seriously.
You have been. Go Battle Day for this debut
tonight. Go back and review the tape.
This was a 100% stumble upon and maybe I'm just blessed.
Maybe it's just like Stream Yard knows me, but like, that's your
account. Yes, I just want you to do
another trick because I know you can.
Well, I if I could, I would like what would we call these?
Like maybe emojis? I'm going to find out more.
I'm going to find more. Yeah, I'm Googling hearts on OK
Mac Heart Emojis on stream. It's a It's a Mac effect.
Are you using a Mac? Yes, I'm using a Mac.
What kind of question is that? Are you using APC or a Mac?
I'm not. I'm not using a.
Oh yeah, Gretsch, you're an Android guy.
I forgot. No, I'm not.
I'm an iPhone guy, but I have a you and Pete.
You and Pete. I have an Android guy.
You're an Android guy. Oh, I have a This is APCI, have
a Mac. But I I yeah, I got a It's like
a gaming PC that I use. Is there like a cooler receiver
than DeAndre Hopkins in this era?
Like, he might be the coolest. The guy's just, like, fun to
watch. He's really good on the
sideline. My.
Gosh. He's so good and that ball I
pretty I pretty I pretty hardcore faded him this year so
I don't every catch I kind of die a little bit inside I he's
my second highest owned player best ball my Homer.
Now ask who the first high ask who Sean Watson player.
Oh damn it. Because I was getting him free
and I'm like, oh, he's just free at the end.
Kitchen I I was writing. I'm for my newsletter tomorrow,
the PO Box. I was doing like a little
halfway through the season, review of how all my streamed
drafts are doing. And so the team that you and
Davis and I drafted on the marathon stream is currently
advancing. And but I went and looked at our
quarterbacks, and it's Kirk Cousins, Ryan Tannehill and
Matthew Stafford. Oh God, the team is like pretty
nasty other than that part. Oh, no.
Yeah. It is amazing.
It is amazing how like the quarterback injuries just sink.
It's amazing teams. Yeah, it's yeah, I was talking
about that with the mid round. Quarterbacks have just been
brutal. Yeah, it's just horrible.
Other than what? Like Tua I tua I don't.
There's a There's another Best Ball site on here I'm not going
to mention because the show's sponsored by underdog fantasy,
but I only drafted 2 teams in this best Ball content Yahoo.
You're allowed to say that. No, no.
It rhymes with schmafters, but I'm not going to say what it is.
You could say Drafters Kitchen. It's a it's a loud.
OK. Drafters fantasy.
But this team he's getting given out a promo code right then.
There it is. Oh, he.
Threw the ball. Backwards.
That's going to be a sack fumble, right?
That's oh, what's the point? To be incomplete.
He tried to Chuck the ball and he threw it back.
It looks like he got like, squeezed in the pile.
And just like it was a Hall of Fame play, Pete, you just
wouldn't understand. Pat.
Unbelievable. Call on the sacks, man.
Love it. Nailed it.
He gave it to him. They gave it to him.
This. Yo, he definitely, he definitely
threw that. Yeah.
That's either a this is just that fumble.
If it's not a sack. This was, it would go down as a
sack, fumble. I think Josh Allen.
Remember the Josh Allen play in the playoffs against the Texans?
Yeah, he. Just threw it right at like rent
free. I'm not talking up my mind.
Just one's laps. Gosh, yeah, third and 13, we we
got that one down, 'cause if you would have thrown it, it would
have lost way more yardage. It would have been a negative
fumble. They said he was down.
Oh man, they almost got him again.
The only thing I wish is that, yeah, that one isn't good.
I wish we had a ladder on Will Levis Sax because this isn't the
end of him taking. I know.
Yeah, we're 20 minutes into this game.
We've already hit the over. There's Westbrook, a Keene.
Look at that. How do you know?
You get. You only saw the number.
Saw that bod baby. I told you didn't see the
number. I saw.
I saw the name play. I saw that tight ass bond.
They get to the sidelines. Anyways, back to my drafters
team. It is cute little scoring I
forgot. I can't believe I completely
forgot this incredible yarn you're weaving right now.
Continuing. And I'm like in the top.
Hey, can you mix some more hearts please?
I'm hovering. Try try to induces.
Try to induces. No, no.
Your top 100 kitchen. Yeah.
I want to hear this, though. Yeah, I'm top.
I'm top 100. And so I'm clicking because it's
cumulative. So, like, you're seeing the
team. And some of these top teams are
ones that don't have any quarterbacks.
And there was this like, sick sense of like satisfaction I got
out of knowing like. They're, you know, basically
they're off the table. You know, like they've got 2
quarterbacks and neither are going to be playing for the rest
of the year. See, so you're you're tabbing
through the teams and kind of, you know, devilishly chuckling
to yourself at their misfortune. Is that what you're saying?
100% and I'm. Also admitting that it's sick
into it. You you guys, we just one of
our. I don't think we ever showed our
our two five. Yeah, we we busted one of the
five legs already with it. We went Westbrook and Kennedy
lower, lower. That was our last pick of
everything that we threw in. But I was worried about that
one. Yeah.
Yeah, that was dumb. Why'd you suggest it?
Yeah, we split it up because it was we wanted to do.
I wanted to do a trailing Burke's plays.
More bet. And I thought that would come at
the expense of Nick Westbrook, a Keene, but doesn't seem to be
hitting. But we'd still have the out on
the Allen Robinson one. Yeah.
Yes. Yeah, the Allen Robinson one.
We need him to be under a catch and the big dog to stay under 17
1/2. Hey, guys, don't judge me right
now, OK? OK.
Wait. Oh, wow.
This is my page. My patrons have dubbed it MO Ali
Cox. This it is.
It is awful when I'm on stream sometimes, and I totally forget
that I'm on stream and and I just pulled this giant jug out
and people are just like, what in the world is going on with
you just overcome. Silva was a trailblazer.
He's normalized it for fantasy animals across the land.
That's very true. I've got this right here.
You got to upgrade. I thought this was big, but
yours is way big. My my wife though.
My wife, though, hates that, like this noise, I I 'cause I
carry this thing around the house.
Playing. No.
It's like the. Oh, dude, that's creepy, dude.
Yeah, I'll be, like, one more time closer to the mic.
All right. Are you ready?
Ready. We got some real ASMR freaks in
the audience. Ready, everyone?
Yeah, that's the good shit. I'm envisioning a little kid on
a swing in the middle of nowhere.
It's like it's like it's like it's like the are you afraid of
the dark intro? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But then you look out again and no one's there.
Just a swing just swinging by itself.
For the rest of the show, we're actually going to be.
Just holy artists, yeah. Chug on the swing that is.
That's really good. JJ You should Do you know how
Denny does the the Tilt montage on your guys's podcast feed?
You should do like a Foley artist montage where you're like
these are some random sounds I've made around the house this
week. Just get really into add some
arms. Oh, baby, oh, baby.
I love that you're 4 seconds Behind.
It's actually amazing. I'm a huge fan.
For a second, I was like, what does Kitchen know?
Oh, what? We knew a minute.
No, no. But seriously, what are you
guys? What are you guys watching on?
They made me switch kitchen. I was on my computer before now
I'm on my phone now too. Then you guys got slow, slow
Internet in Tennessee. Is that a flash draft I saw out
there? Kitchen.
It was DraftKings. I was looking at my over 201 yen
passing yards for Will Levis. He's got 97 right now.
So looking good. Looking good.
I also have Titans +2 and a half, first half, so kind of
need a touchdown here, 'cause I thought we were coming on second
quarter. So I was like, I want a good
second quarter sweat. You're the boy who cried wolf,
though no one believes you. You just told us that you had
Naji Harris first touchdown and then you didn't.
I did that because JJ said that the the Steelers scored and I
did not want to give him any satisfaction of being like, oh,
I want to be like, yeah, I knew they were gonna score first.
That's. Why I had Naji get there score.
We are starting Levis Boys in our team with Leone.
We need a Levis TV here in our highest stake league.
Thank you for getting our eyes back on the prize here.
Levis in Oconquo who was running on the flat there.
I thought we might have a little stack 'cause we have we're at by
Mageddon we have Purdy. I was gonna say that you we have
Purdy at UK CMC and Gibbs and Laporta from the Lions.
All five of those guys are starters and we have.
We had Stafford and Watts. We were carrying three
quarterbacks and then went into this week with no quarterbacks
that we could start so we dropped all because chat DPT
made no buys last week so shout out to Chuck DPT for that.
Oh man, you're gonna he's he's great.
I'm really excited for kitchen to celebrate in a bit here, the
kitchen you were going to be so thrilled in about.
You're going to like, you're going to like watching this.
In a minute, who is who's the worst player you guys are are
using Touchdown. We've already moved on.
JJ, we're starting Kendrick Miller at running back.
Oh my God. That's better off.
That's the thing we're doing. That's got to be.
That's got to be the word, I think.
Yeah, my worst this week is actually, I think he's kind of a
sleeper this week. He's probably like Jonathan
Mingo. Yeah, that's that has some legs
as like a as like a Yeah, like you could see it happening.
I said that on the swell cast. I said that on the swell cast.
He was in 99% of the team's. He he played, yeah, He he he's
playing a lot. Kendra, the Kendra Miller player
played. To be fair, we had a long
discussion about whether we were playing Kendra Miller AKA
punting or trying to add five points, 'cause there's nothing
on the way for one and like, you're taking the L anyway,
right? We're like, yeah, we're like
taking the L And then it was like, we can add Shakur, who is
an upgrade on like Wandale and it's like, well, Shakur over
Wandale might be more than nothing.
And like the Darrenson Evans versus Kendra.
Might just be like, and this is that same team I just mentioned
all the buys. Our whole bench is on buy.
We don't have flexibility. Like, yeah, I we're starting to
Antonio, we got to hear we're starting Antonio Gibson and I
dropped Tank Bigsby. Another league like part of me
dies whenever I have to draft these guys because these were
the supposed league winners. I know you guys do like a lot of
fluff on the show and just entertainment and ha ha.
But if we can get serious for a second, what are we thinking
about? Like these league winner, late
round running back, zero RB guys that just have not produced.
What? Name some tank.
I did Tank Bigsby. Yeah man.
Antonio Gibson Fantasy Twitter fell for Tank Bigsby Hook line.
And stuff we did. We fell.
Yeah, it wasn't like Aries and
preseason. I'm laughing.
I was like, oh, all these Tank Bigsby slaps.
Yeah, I did you. Get my exposures the other day.
It's like my ninth highest draft.
A lot of tank bigs, yeah. We don't have him in any high
stakes stuff guys. And we had a ton of at.
High stakes but honestly and best ball like who has worked
out aside from Miami running backs.
I I do think if if you're trying to.
Lead us to this. Congratulations.
But Taje Spears I think is still has some money.
Sure. Sure.
Jerome Ford. Even though he.
Jerome Ford. Jerome Ford would be 1:00.
There's a lot more than that. No.
That's it. I'm pulling up.
ADP No. Yeah.
There's so many more and the and the early round running backs
haven't really hit either. The the opposite running back is
good. Zach Mosss, running back.
No one, no one was drafting. I got, I got 33 marathon stream
drafts. Kyron.
Kyron Williams. Kyron Cuba.
Yes, Kyron works. Cuba, Cuba, Cuba literally just
took over a starting job in like 7 weeks.
That was amazing. If you go look at the Kirk point
scoring, Mostert's 3. Moss is 4A, Kamara 7.
Gus. Oh, Gus Edwards.
Gus Edwards just scored three touches.
Yeah, Kyron's eight. Like it's all the late round
picks. Eight chance to level out of 32.
You guys have mentioned like 3 and like that is, yeah, it's a
low hit rate. It's a low hit rate on him.
But what are we supposed to do Kitchen?
Who are The Who are all the other players at other positions
who have hit after round 14? Who are the early running backs
that are outscoring Puka Puka 2? Two.
Not even really. Do you do have like 1 1/2 good
weeks? Kincaid.
He was an 11th round fan. Liam was drafting Kincade.
He's also had especially on two good games so far.
Perfect. Did you mean Laporta?
He's already he's the 11th. Yeah, Laporta.
I love. One of my favorite things about
Gretch is how he gets offended at just like, a question.
There's just, like, really a question.
Like who? Like, what are we doing?
I'm not actually offended. I just come across offended.
No, we just we didn't understand that.
I have the same reaction with stuff, too.
People think that I'm way more worked up than I actually am
with stuff. No, but you you do get worked
up. JJ, we've seen your Twitter.
No, he doesn't. One of them's kitching.
God now. Now we're going to get worked
up. Let's go.
My Steelers are losing, JJJ already told us.
Most of the time he'll ignore the trolls, but if he has like a
nice free afternoon, that's right, he's like.
All right, I got time. For that 30 minutes, Friday,
Friday. Hey, hey, watch out for me on
Friday afternoons. Those are those are the times
that I'm usually, you know, freed up a little bit to kind of
go in, crack a little IPA. Yeah, just kind of sit back
watch those trolls, you know, just just die in the inside.
What is your like, what is your ex maintenance thing?
Do you do you mute people? Do you block people?
Do you just let all the mentions flood in 'cause you get a shit
ton. So I I've gone from, so like,
you know, I started doing this, you know, like Hitchamus Hakama.
We've been doing this for over a decade now.
And so here we go, here we go. I there's Deontay.
Was that Deontay? Let's go, buddy.
Yeah, it was. Yeah, it's good.
It's good. I went from, like, I I started
doing this when I was like 24, right?
And so I you, I go through my 20s and like everyone knows that
when you're in your 20s, it's like it's just you don't really
understand what's going on and you're just kind of reacting to
things probably in the not the best way.
You're probably not mature enough to be handling what
you're handling and stuff. And so I don't really like the
way that I would handle things on Twitter then Now the way that
I handle things, I mute a lot. I don't block because I don't, I
don't like giving people the satisfaction with the block,
right. Yeah, same.
And so I mute a lot of people, but my my real move, you want to
know what my, my actual move is now is that when someone trolls
me and it's from like a non anonymous account, like it's
just like a, you know, they got a picture of their family or
something in the in their in their little banner on Twitter.
I'll look at their profile and I'll give them a compliment
based on that banner like like two kids or something like that.
Just because there's just being these, like like there's things
like I want you to die because you don't like Arthur Smith.
And then I'm just like, hey, really, really think your kids
cute, like your Halloween costume, you know, something
like that. Just to just to like, I run a
background check on them and be like, how are things going on?
This is gonna be Property Search and get their address.
How's your job at the law firm, buddy?
JJ? Have I ever told you that?
So when I I got on Twitter in 2009.
So I was on Twitter very early, but I ended up way back when I
first started getting into fantasy football.
I made a burner account because I was like one of those where I
I was like even too ashamed on my main account to like Last
Comedy Hour. Yeah, like the Comedy Hour.
under score Pete. No, this is way before even
that. This is like 2010, 2011.
I would write you questions on Twitter like just the classic
star sit. Like way back in the day when I
yeah, like this would have been a shift in 2010, 2011, yeah.
I was like, who do I start of these two?
Like just for my burner. Just to you way back then, I
would ask you those fantasy code.
You were like the first guy I went to.
Did I? Did I did I respond and stuff.
Like, was it, was it a bad experience?
Like you have a beautiful girlfriend in office, you're
gonna have a beautiful daughter one day?
No, you did, you responded. Yeah, like the what was really
toxic back in the day was FanDuel and Draft St.
Chat. This was like before Twitter
fantasy was really a thing. And my arch nemesis on the Draft
St. Chat streets was Drew and he was
legit dink. He was such a jerk.
And like he will tell you. He will tell you now that he was
like a big jerk back then. Kind of like, you know, in your
20s and like, oh it was it was the worst because you'd be like
complaining about something and he'd be like, he would just be
so dismissive and act like you are such an idiot.
Who's offended now? Soccer Dave, who's offended now?
My thing is my thing is hold just been for a long time.
I used to say no. I've told, like, Drew knows,
he's apologized. I just, I just, I would take
things so personally all the time.
Back then, like it was, it was it was rough, 'cause you're like
you're like gaining a following and like you're not really ready
to be handling that. And like, you take things
personally whenever someone like trashes a take that you had and
stuff like that, and you feel like you got to defend
everything and then eventually you're just like, I I know that
I'm doing decent work. That's something I wanted to go
back to the fantasy receipts thing on, and I and I think this
is a learned thing for all of us.
But one of the reasons the fantasy receipts is a little
different than old takes exposed.
Old takes exposed are just like takes.
Like, who cares? But the fantasy receipts thing,
like there's a lot of people trying to make it in fantasy
predictions specifically. And there is like so, so much
competition and there are so many analysts that there is
pressure to be perfect, to like, never miss right.
And no one really wants to admit their mistakes.
And so I think there's a little bit of a Gray area with the
fantasy receipts, one where I think it's fine to like people
accountable to, you know, but like, we don't.
I I can't imagine, like, you know, six months or whatever
going like, you know what this site needs an account that's
just a real dickhead to everyone.
Like you don't need that at all. Yeah, I mean, part of the.
Go ahead, Paul. Davis, I was just.
Going to say so it makes me think of 1 of the exactly.
Got a little more positive I. Would say lately one of the
greatest Twitter accounts of all time and rest in peace.
Harris Whittles, who invented the humble brag in that account,
would just retweet humble brags. There was no editorializing.
People would tag him in celebrities who would do the
humble brag. It was like the the most
brilliant thing and cold takes Exposed kind of did or freezing
takes Exposed did that kind of too, right?
He just retweets it. No editorializing.
It's the editorializing in the trying to emphatically dunk and
hang on the rim after. That's the that's the problem.
Like you just retweet it without any editorializing and it's
fine. And it's funny in that.
Case Part of the problem though too is that the five of us
aren't really exposed to like the the like think about it like
10 years ago like five years ago and we're all getting to know
each other and like we're on Twitter and stuff and we would
probably have back and forth about a player or whatever like
back. I remember going like literal
like 48 hours straight arguing about Rashad Jennings or
something. Right.
Like just the most just just but can I still do this
occasionally. But but he's back.
But like, like, we all sort of like, I don't know if it's age
or if it's just like we all were able to like sort of solidify
where what we're doing, well, we do it in Discord now so no one
can see, yeah, we do it in Discord, yeah.
That's true too. But like, this is like, yeah, I
definitely stopped doing this. What I'm saying is though is
that like we we're not really exposed to like more as we were
before, more of like up and coming fantasy analysts and
stuff like that and like how they're handling their business,
right. And so I think going on in the
fantasy space and of course we see like the Club 80 stuff that
goes around that all of us probably despise and whatnot and
we're fine with that getting exposed.
But like, I I think that part of the problem is that the fantasy
industry in general, like up and coming folks are very, very
arrogant and obnoxious on Twitter.
And then that just gives a bad name to all these fantasy
analysts. And then therefore, you know,
whatever, like fantasy receipts is creating this account because
fantasy analysts can't admit when they're wrong and stuff
like that. But it's really just like this
cluster of people that really can't admit when they're wrong
and they just like, double down on bad takes and then it just
sort of sort of starts this like horrible cycle.
What would be the most problem about JJ in in my in my career?
No, no, jeez, we don't have time for that.
Like just this summer. Oh, this year, This year, Yeah.
I didn't draft it. No, this year.
This year there's probably I I think I I think that like I've
had a decent year from like a player take perspective and
stuff but I didn't get enough Alvin Kamara like that was a
that was sort of a blind spot for me.
This year was was I just and I did the same thing with Hopkins
last year. Like I apparently have this
blind spot for these guys who are suspended and older and just
assuming that there's a a a dip that's going to happen and I
just missed on it. So I think Kamara is probably
the one for me. Pete, my biggest whiff.
Yeah, on which direction I can give you one on a guy drafted or
a guy faded. Which one do you want either?
I mean, I have one share of Adam Thielen.
I have like 5 shares of Kamara, My biggest, I mean, I have so
much Gwinton Johnston as far as like guys in early rounds.
That's the one that's probably hurting the most, but it's
trending in the right direction. My two most drafted guys are
outside of JSN are Rashad Penny and Kendrick Miller who have
done nothing that's has to be mine.
I I was pounding the table for Penny the whole fucking summer.
Yeah, Penny another guy. Gretch another guy did not work
out late round running back. Yeah and the thing about that
Penny and Harris to to J JS point about like having a blind
spot. My I realized my blind spot
there. Him and Damien Harris they
started to slide and I just decided it didn't matter for
their ceilings their you know their their talented players and
good offenses and this is the wrong reason for them to be
sliding and I just kept drafting them at cheaper prices.
But you have to read the market a little bit like you have to
respect the market It's it's like you're IK being when you're
doing that and and I I I don't know that I was intentionally
trying to but I I had AI did a jump the shark thing.
You know I I quoted Leone with Damien Harris at one point I was
like why is he falling this much but there was a reason for it
right. Like the let's say Miss Murray
stuff had like to do the cope thing too.
Like when you think about, there were the three super ambiguous
backfields, right? The Bears, the Dolphins and the
Saints who all had their running backs going after like pick 100
and basically taking any the Bears backs.
Yeah, yeah, like in the cheaper ones there is this Pickens
touchdown here. No, it was Allen Robinson, but
he's incomplete. Incomplete and that was Kitchens
plus 2.5 was about to get wasted there on 4th and goal.
They're about to run down the field anyways.
Kamara was consistently the most expensive the entire offseason
of the Saints too, so I was just content to play it through the
cheapest 1. And that's why I have a shit ton
of Deontay Foreman too, Because I was just.
Playing it through the cheapest me too Bears back and I have a
ton of Jeff Wilson as well, so I just kept playing it through the
cheapest ones. One of my biggest misses is most
dirt 'cause I I didn't. I have I was overweight knee
chain and I was I think about even with Wilson but I I was
often like why would I take Mostert when I can just wait and
take Wilson. Yeah no I I'm in the same boat
and and it sucks some. Like it wasn't until like I had
a a few like like managed league drafts like after the Jeff
Wilson was broke and I forced the issue with Mostert just to
get some exposure. I have some high stakes festival
drafts over the same thing. I was like oh God I cannot have
this yeah yeah right right that one to me though like I I've had
people I I get every week whenever I ask for like mailbag
questions and stuff the the questions are always like a
retro like like I don't really like looking back on the season
until the season's over right like just because it's not
really like helping like in this environment it's whatever
because we're just shooting the shit.
But like, like, it's not really like, I just want to help people
with their fantasy rosters and like, help in the given week
what we can control right now. We'll get to all of the like
retroactive and in retrospective stuff after the season's over,
right? But I get questions all the time
about, hey, what do you think is going on with this strategy and
blah blah blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, well, I haven't
collected the data and analyzed this.
I'm not really going to answer that.
But one of the things was, why was Raheem Monster at such a
massive miss in the fantasy space this year?
Because I I don't know about you, I don't remember anyone
like pounding the table. Rahim Monster, right.
But I think. Like, 'cause I was really into
Devon A Chan, and like, you know, I think others were too.
But. But I think the, the reason for
Mostert is literally because the Jeff Wilson injury hit in early
September. Like, we didn't, we didn't
realize that it was that significant of an injury.
And I don't think that we will see the outcome that we're
seeing right now. If Jeff Wilson would have played
week one like I, I truly don't think it would have been or if a
Chan stayed healthy who or if a Chan stayed healthy.
Yeah, it's really the answer there.
That's. Yeah.
I mean you could say that for a lot of people like, like.
Right, right. My strategy was just trying to
get a dolphin running back or a bears running back.
One of those strategies worked. One of those clearly did.
Not sure. Yeah this is this is bears
running. Bears running back is not a bad
place to be invested to be on. Like you had some perfect weeks
you've got them. Yeah.
Tell them when Darington Evans scores a rando touchdown in a
given well, but same same thing. I was just gonna say about
Easter. If it's an ambiguous backfield
and two of the three get hurt, the third one is in a good spot
and it's the same thing to happen when Deontay Foreman.
The reason Evans scored is the other two were out.
They still had a backup, right? Like Foreman is, is playing as
the lead and then they're down to their 4th.
Back is playing as the number two in the two-minute drill, and
he scores ATV. I also think it's a little bit
different because if we had the information about Jeff Wilson
and we knew that he was not, that he was gonna be put on IR,
most of it would have been going four or five rounds earlier than
he was, right? What is it about NFL coaches
like, McDaniel is so fun. He's got a good personality,
he's designed a great offense, but he's just like a total
motherfucker. When it comes to injuries, I
know like like every coach has to have something.
I haven't like I don't remember a year ever where and I know
Denny has that. I think it was Denny who has
that bit where a low ankle sprain just gets higher and
higher the. Players.
Yeah, yeah, You know, that's my favorite bit daddy.
That's such a good bit every time in Trump's voice when daddy
does that, I read it my head as Trump's voice.
I don't know why, but like, I've never, I don't remember a season
where like an injury happens on a Sunday and then you're just
waiting for some injury news on Monday and it's like some
casual, like, yeah, you know, he tweaked his ankle a little bit.
He's going to be fine. And then literally a day later
he's on IR. Like it's it's happened like
four or five times a year. I don't remember being like that
at all. Historically it's been really, I
think it's the the IR going to 4 weeks, which has been relatively
recent and then going to 17 games.
And I think teams are just doing this precautionary.
I said this with Jefferson, right when he went on IR, we
talked about on ceiling bananas a little bit today.
There's a couple other examples, but I think teams are just like,
look, we got 17 games, we're just going to protect you from
yourself a little bit. We're going to put you on the
shelf for four weeks, go get healthy, you know, Right, right.
And even though it's like a two week injury or something and
it's like they could, they could easily just work it out.
Well, like I remember Eckler and Barkley have both like returned
from high ankle sprains and handles huge workloads after on
IR. So maybe there's maybe it's
good. Yeah, well, I I remember, Pat, I
think I remember talking about this with you on some of our
best ball breakfast shows where, you know, I was tending to
always play it through the cheaper backfield, which is why
I had so much Chardonnay and Rashad Penny.
And I remember having the conversation with you on one of
those shows where I was. Like, I have to force myself to
take more Kenneth Walker and DeAndre Swift because I love
both of those dudes, but the price was so different that it
was really comfy to just pass on them and grab the later back.
And yet, when you like the backfield it in the same way.
I'm glad that I got on a lot of 8 Chan right?
Even though I love the prices on Mostert and Wilson.
It's like. I also still want some 8 Chan
'cause if I'm directionally accurate that this backfield bet
is a smash, you got to have some of the other part of the
backfield 100%. Yeah, I didn't do enough of
that. I took a lot of Mostert and Jeff
Wilson. I don't have a lot of 8 Chan.
Jeff Wilson could be the guy, though.
He could like he could. That's The funny thing about all
this stuff, right? Like 2 weeks ago I would have
been on here being like Fournette.
I don't know what I was thinking.
Clearly he just want to play Call of Duty and then he signs,
you know? And now it's like, did you see
his tweet today? Oh my God, he's awesome.
Buffalo. He's so awesome, yeah, that he
was cracking me up because it was juxtaposed to all of the
photos where he cut his football pants at practice.
He's. Wearing essentially like a
fucking Speedo. You think it's cold?
You cut your pants down to a 10 Steps Ahead Jeans, shorts thing.
His thighs are almost as big as mine.
They're mad. They're Kyle Phillips.
Stick catch Jade. Yeah, we saw, we saw, we saw.
It was like that body from a mile.
I was. I was a Kyle Phillips guy coming
out. Me too.
The slate is so bad this week. There's so many quarterback
injuries. We all need a little something
in our lives, football wise. And then Leonard Fournette shows
up with the quad training camp pick.
Like, it's like he's doing what people do in August, but but in
November he like, he like, he like rolls up in like a
Batmobile or whatever they do at training camps and stuff.
Like, yeah, he's doing all of that.
It's like the little dose of summer.
It's like an 80 degree day in the middle of the game and oh
God Phillip balling yo my my my best ball best ball Dynasty
rosters are guys. Yeah, now you're you're kitchen
on a swole cast episode referencing your best fault
Dynasty roster. Kitchen.
Are you doing? A flash draft over there.
You're going full Matic on us. That was the Yes laugh.
What a giggle. Chris Giamino posted a a meme I
think he even like maybe created it, but it was in the in our
little projection channel for Rotor Grinders.
But it's of the the meme of the girls like whispering to each
other and one of them's like, I heard Lenny's going to be the
hurry up back in Buffalo. And like, it is.
It is funny how if you have like a few shares of Leonard
Fournette or whatever, you start envisioning like these perfect
scenarios where they're just going to blow up.
Yeah, I mean, if if James Cook gets injured, like he's like a
top 10 back the rest of the season, pretty easily like it's
crazy. The letter Fournette and Cream
Hunt Slappy's kind of getting there is just so.
Tilting to me? No, that's that was always the
plan. Big bag of Letter, Fournette and
Best. Ball It's the biggest suck out
of all, so I'll tell you that that was the whole thesis behind
the play is that they were going to find a good spot after the
season started here. This is why it wasn't the thesis
of the play Kitchen 'cause if someone allowed you, the best
ball gods allowed you to cash out.
Change all these shares for your random player Right now you
would have cashed out on the Leonard Fournette shares two
weeks ago. Yes.
Who? Who?
Who wants to die? I would have.
You would have.
That's not how best Ball works. That's not how Kitchen I want to
be clear, Kitchen was. I want to be, well, how does
late round running backs work? Because what you just described
is that there's going to be openings on good offenses
because of injuries. Like the reason Lenin Fornett
signed is because Damien Harris got hurt and they needed death.
That's that's this is the late round running back thing You
said none of these guys are hitting.
You can't have both. Sides of this I I'm just saying
like the guys that we thought were going to hit have not hit
maybe the guys who I thought Antonio Gibson.
Gibson Do it again. Yeah, I did it.
Do it. Do it again.
Do it. You got to do it again.
Come on, shoot. Oh, you had two of them.
We. Had to go hitch it.
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here. Yeah, if you got a hold of wait
do do double thumbs up, do double thumbs up turn turn him
to the. Camera how did you How did?
You unlock that, I'm not going. To do it, it looks like he's
like, he's like unlocked the fireworks.
Do you unlock the fireworks? The.
World. Incredible.
I think I just won. I think I just won.
I don't know whether I won. But I think we should We should
do the giveaway. Incredible.
What a moment. Oh my God.
That was amazing. Yeah, we we should probably just
shut down the street. It doesn't.
Get better that's. It never do the show again.
All right. We got to go on the we got to go
on the pick em lab here, guys. Oh that's right.
We got to make some pick em. You guys can help us out.
You guys know ball especially kitchen Kitchen.
What's going to happen with the Titans the 2nd.
We got look at the Look at the Can we get more sacks more of
that sweet sack mind. Yeah.
I think. I think you go over Derrick
Henry rushing yards. I kind of like the Levis passing
at this point, even though it's gone up.
Like here he has 150 at half. I think the Steelers get back in
this right? I don't know.
Sweating 100. Levis passing yards.
Feels agonizing. He's chucking it again though.
Yeah, you're right. It does feel agonizing.
How does Burke? Dude, they drop the Burke's line
to 8 to half. We gotta play that right?
I'm gonna look at. I'm gonna look at some some dude
running rounds. Freaky key day is 1/2 yard.
Burke's doesn't have a A target as he like where's the Nathan
Yankee tweet? We need the Burke's Yankee
tweets for technology. As people in Davis's or in J JS
mentions, tell them they don't have the technology to let us
know how many routes someone's. Running.
Burke's is second on the on the wide receiver's in snaps.
He's got 23 snaps out of 39 plays, only behind he hasn't.
He hasn't seen a target though, right?
Yeah, but 8 1/2 yards? No, no, no, I I agree.
No, no, no. What's?
I'm into it.
He's out there. I I like this call from our guy,
John Warner. Jalen Warren, Higher Receiving,
Rushing. Yeah, I like it.
Warren's smashing right now. He's been.
He's been crushing. Yeah.
Jig played 30 of 39 plays. What's?
I mean, I feel like Jig is at 9 1/2 receiving yarns.
Oh, that's a good one. That's a good.
I like that. Yeah, let's hit that.
Paije Spears was 20.5 rushing. He's he's already got 12.
He only needs 8 1/2 more rushing yards.
It does feel like we could do the big dog.
I mean the guys who's guys who are out there two guys who are
out there. They just lower trailer to
seven. Oh they're daring us.
Yeah do be daring us over there. Just do it.
Do it. Fire that the three-way.
We just got to get one catch. One catch you You guys want to
you wanna fire this one? three-way here.
Yeah. I feel like if you're doing
Yeah. If you're doing game script and
you go jig and Traylon, Burke's over.
Tossing Levis, you're well, well, I'd go on the opposite
side. I guess Jalen Warren's gonna be
that guy. But those are so low you don't
have to add Levis, 'cause they're.
I mean, they're 10 yards each. Just one.
Catch. Yeah, All right.
I added that as a three. Let's see.
Can he picket .5. Passing TV's?
Can he throw a touchdown for the trailing?
Definitely want it to be Beyoncé Deontay.
It's gonna happen tonight, 30. I do.
I agree. 33 yards? You want to free roll the
rusting? What's Allen Robinson's 15 1/2?
He's at 10, so this is literally what we have right now.
He's only running, It's the same.
It's interesting. He's run only two fewer routes
than Deontay and one fewer than yeah.
We we thought about it, 'cause we knew he was gonna be out
there a lot. But, you know, it's Alan
Robinson. Yeah, he's.
What do you guys think about this one?
I like our guy. Clear Clay here.
Spears receiving if they get in a negative game Scroll.
He's at 10. Yeah.
Yeah, I. Like that, I think the I would
do the picket passing team, 'cause you're what is happening.
Whoa. Do you see that?
What is going on right now, Pete, you're putting them in a
negative game script means the Steelers have to score in the
third quarter, 'cause they're down three points, right.
You want to make it passing. I think that makes sense, right?
Yeah, unless there's AII agree directionally with what you're
saying at. But is there, do we like
anything like pass? Is there any kind of Levis pass
Levis over Oh Levis is we would need it's down to did this drop
big time or no. Yeah it's still 100.
We need 100 passing yards. But it's probably not right to
do three different guys without. Levis.
Yeah, I would say, Levis. I would just say three of them
at all that aren't Hopkins. You know what I mean?
Like, well, what if we, what if we spin this off?
Let's do one with. Let's do one with Levis just to
correlate this right. Like, if you're getting there
with Burke's jig, you're not sharing anymore.
Pete, what's up? Oh, my bad.
Sharon, Soccer Dave's looking up his effects now.
So here's one that is correlating the with those three
Titans in a negative game script which I do like that idea yeah.
And then but do you want to do 1 without like Levis in one of
these and tilt it to Pittsburgh. Yeah I'm good with that.
Yeah. I was just saying like if we're
going to say negative script for like the Taiji Spears receiving
or you know some of the the trail script stuff in general
that we we need the Steelers to score.
So the Can you pick up .5 Passing TDI?
Like, 'cause they're down, The Titans just went up 1310 before
half the Steelers got a score. Right.
Which one? If we put in a picket TD, which
one do you want to pull of like Burks or Chig?
Probably we could pull the Burks and Chig and do a Henry over
plus the picket and pull Levis playing it different and pull
Levis. Yeah, maybe we Oh is Levis.
Yeah, like that's a oh pull the Spears if we're doing this too.
No one of my favorite numbers. Yeah, let's keep Spears.
I like this as a three, unless you want to keep.
Do this as a three. Yeah, I like it.
I like it. You can do more than 50
probably, 'cause we got let's get the Steelers getting out
ahead and let's get Spears catching coming back.
That's going to hit. That one's a good one.
Do you want to do a couple of lives off this 4/3 for a five?
Yeah. And then we'll be like 2-4
threes. So on the Warren.
Spears Picket TD. What other ones did you guys
like here? If we have a picket, the all
the, the jig and burks and and and levis overs that you were
already doing all make sense of this, yeah.
Which one do we like the most of the Burks and the jig?
I don't. Even know I wish I could say
Burks. He's ran a lot of routes and not
got a target. I just think if we're doing a
picket passing TD, we should probably have 1D pass catching
one here. Did they pull the picket stuff
or Pickens? I don't.
Pickens. Pickens would be good.
Where's Pickens? He's gone.
Yeah. Oh, there he is.
There he is. No, wait, hold on.
Yeah, he's low. Oh, you're right.
Oh, do you want to go? Yeah.
There it is. Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's correlate that. And then what is the 5th we want
to do here? So yeah, George Pickens 24 1/2,
Just do another. We're we're saying Titans kind
of come back and pass. Pick a pick a chigger.
Burks. Yeah.
Shakes 9 1/2 or Burke 7 1/2. I think one match for Burks.
Yeah, it's Burks for the We think trailer.
Burks is getting a catch. All right, let's do Burks.
He didn't catch a pass all last week.
He's got it this week. He can't go back-to-back shout
outs, right. All right, let's do it.
All right, we're locking this in.
We We honestly could just do this again and also do Chig,
given given what we had budgeted for, halftime, given a beer.
I'm gonna grab a beer. Tip.
How? How many receiving yards does
Pickens have? Two.
I'm looking at another site, and it's got Pickens versus Burke's.
Oh, God. Pickens is -450.
Berks is plus 290. What are you drinking, Pete?
Got a little tequila going. How about you tea.
Some chamomile tea? Yeah, OK Yeah.
Well, I didn't know if you were disguising because it definitely
looks like a tea mug. Yeah, nice, nice.
JJ is such a tea guy these days. Puts a little hint of lavender.
I gave up my. I gave up coffee a few years
ago, man. I don't drink.
I don't. Yeah.
Remember you saying that? I remember you.
You told everybody about it multiple times.
Yeah. It's like it's like doing
CrossFit. You got to let everyone know
that, that, that, that. That's why I say it on on living
the stream all the time as a joke whenever we get questions.
Like, I don't know if you know this or not, but I'm, I'm dairy
and gluten free now. I don't.
I don't need dairy and gluten. No, I did the coffee thing
because it was just messing with me and I just don't consume
caffeine anymore. Yeah, do.
You still do beer at all or no, I I love coffee, do do a lot of
claws. And yeah, I can still do like,
I'll do like vodkas and stuff, but more more clear.
More clear. No, I mean like mixed.
I'm not just drinking a straight.
Want to get healthy? Just drink straight vodka.
Yeah, just drink. Just drink straight vodka.
Dairy free. But I don't get that handle.
I also drink a lot less than I used to do.
To be fair, JJ, spend spend a day in my mentions and you'll
start drinking straight vodka. You guys, you guys don't
understand. You don't get it?
No, I you're in gluten free bro. I've been dude the the lowest
dose tequila and I'm not on Jeremy's payroll for it.
But the no additives I I seriously never have a hangover
with it. It sounds like a bit It sounds
like you know, some magic elixir, but it's.
Very nice to sip on and you don't have to deal with the the
hangover ramifications, right when you said no dairy, no
gluten that was biting into a cheese Danish.
Yeah. That's literally like yesterday
we went to my my daughter playing tea, my daughter's
playing T-ball and we went to like a pizza, like like end of
season pizza party kind of thing.
And like fall ball. And they had, they had pizza.
And like, I realized that pizza is like the one thing that I
just would get destroyed by if I were to consume pizza at this
point. And I go to AI, got like a local
like dairy free free pizza joint that I can, I can grab stuff at.
Tastes pretty good. JJ, since you're on our show, I
just wanted to ask you a little industry.
Would you be by our question, just question.
Well, it's just our from the Tree Forest perspective.
Yeah, for sure. I continue.
Yeah. Thank.
Good. Continue.
So how is the podcast going? My podcast.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like how is life? How's life since like you took a
bet on yourself? Been great, man.
Great. Yeah.
Like it's I I don't know. I mean I don't know how much
detail, but like I I it's been it's been awesome.
People are. The thing that I love about it
is that I now have you know, people that are supporting me
and you know, paying for stuff that and like the price point
that I chose is not like significant because I wanted to
try to get as many people to be involved as possible.
But like, I don't like like people are just really, really.
Nice about anything that I'm producing because they're paying
for it and they are supporting me and they're doing it because
they want to support me as opposed to like, you know, being
out there in front of a larger group of people and them, you
know, just getting angry at you all the time.
So that's been really nice. But yeah, I mean like business
wise is going great. You like you kind of pioneered
the short form podcast. Like, yeah, I mean, are more
people doing this ship cast? Yeah, I'm not used to this.
It's like this is like 19 late round.
It's weird for you to say anti ship gas after saying this is
our podcast together. Yeah.
There's, but there's multiple ways, right?
Like you can like microwave something, but you can also like
smoke it slowly and and both can be like, good, right?
Yeah, I microwave my podcast. Yeah, I'm the microwave.
This is a beef brisket of podcast over here.
Yeah, this is a beef brisket on the TV dinner.
We're low and slow. Right.
You're you're you're searing the steak over there at late round
QB Yeah I I did add though I added late round perspectives to
the feed this year this this season to get like 1 long form
show in there and that's been going really well.
But yeah I mean I changed things.
Last question. What's up?
Last question. You're very like kind of like
anti rankings. Yeah, I still am.
But but here's the thing. But I still don't.
This is gotcha journalism. We love people like me, the
normies, we love rankings. I know.
So it was sort of like how to say using these anti rankings
because you're going to look at two players that he hasn't given
a ton of specific thought to those exact two players and he
might have a different answer than where they land on his
rankings. There's no way to do rankings
perfectly where you would make every decision the way Someone
Like You would consume it. There's way too much.
There's way too much nuance. To every decision that we're
making in fantasy that it's it's rarely as straightforward as
people think that it is and so so I I don't like rankings
because of that. I understand why people want to
consume rankings and they want rankings.
I get all that and so I give in and I do the best I can and I
have rest of season rankings that I do.
Now the problem is that again, there's just not that much like
detail surrounding like I like to.
Go through the reason behind why I have player X here and player
Y here and you it's impossible to do that for you know I'm
doing rest season ranking I'm doing top 150 every week and
then my dynasty rankings I'm doing 200 and like it's just
hard to get you know you can't get to all those players and so
that's the fresh the the the frustrating part about rankings
and why I've never been a huge fan but now that I'm out of my
own you know I got to I I need to offer it to.
Have a sustainable and decent business because people are
going to want it. I don't have rankings for the in
season stuff and I will be. I'll be adding them next year.
I'm. Going to figure out a way to
add. Them next year because it's just
like I just people want them, people want them and I gotta
figure out a way to add them rank.
What do you mean for in season? Beyond weekly ranking weekly and
rest of season. Oh for for each week versus or
rest of season or rest of season I did best ball right.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing I I will like
people will like you know on on Patreon and stuff will come to
me and say you know give give recommendations of like what to
add on the Patreon and stuff like that and like I flat out
and be like I can't I don't have time like I can't do it.
I I just. I can't right So.
But I will say. That if you can get a good
cadence, like my weekly rankings, I do them on Wednesday
morning, get them out there, update them on Thursday before
the games and I don't touch them until Sunday until game starts
Sunday morning. So like I'm not just like
there's not like an active dock, right.
That I'm like I'm uploading a new file and stuff like that
just so that it's not so, so focused on the ranking side of
things. Yeah.
Do you Do you answer specific start sick questions?
So. I I would do at first last year
and like into this year I wasn't doing flex rankings.
I was just doing you know each position and so any any same
position questions I would just say reference the rankings like
it was. It became a thing like RTR like
just reference the rank. And it got to the point when I
was doing my my live streams for patrons, I had like a like a
ping file, You know, like an image, an overlay.
Just it's saying reference the rank, like remember to reference
the rankings. It was sort of like a bit
whatever. And then finally I'm just like
I'm just doing flex rankings now.
I just do flex rankings and then now all the star sits are
basically answered through that unless people someone has like a
pretty like detailed and sort of nuanced question for their
roster. The funny thing is is it more
reveals like a psychological thing which is people aren't
even actually looking for the quote UN quote answer.
They're looking for validation on what they've already decided.
And so when they ask you the question, they want you to say
the answer they've already come up with in there.
And people. And people.
It's almost like in the in the world of product, right?
You have to show your homework, but no one checks to see if you
actually did your homework. They're just looking at the
answers. They just want.
They just want the answers and see like OK, JJ has written a
200 page. Draft guide all by himself. 90%
of it is game theory and I just want to.
I just want to go to the very end and very end.
I do the right desire. Yeah, I.
Know, I know. He's done the homework.
So who does he like? But here's the thing.
Here's the thing though. Here's the thing though.
I do think that because like I've I've built what I do, You
know, my quote UN quote brand. Right.
And you guys do the same thing where it's not just player takes
and just simply spewing that out and just be like I I genuinely,
I know we were talking about like my damn Naji.
Yeah, pretty good one. That was a good one.
Football of his life. Right.
I know that we were talking earlier about like, my mentions
and stuff, but I genuinely believe that I don't get trolled
nearly as much as a lot of people out there.
Like a lot of the trolling that I get is for like the stupid
Nick Saban stuff, you know? It's never about like.
The actual analysis I'm doing, and I think it all comes down to
if you're showing your work, people do respect that more and
troll you less as a result, even when you're wrong.
Like if you could just be like, This is why I got to the
conclusion I got to people don't care as much if you got well,
it's all because it's also how you carry yourself, right?
And it goes back to kind of the fantasy receipt stuff of a lot
of people who try to make a name for themselves come in with
like. Just.
Wild hot. Takes there's a.
Jaylen Warren, Catch and some yardage for the second-half of
that. Where if if you 'cause that kind
of shit gets traction, right where you're like, this is the
Gold Star lock, this guy can't fail that you have to start this
guy, you would be an. Idiot to not do.
This or blah blah where it's like when you do that you are
encouraging engagement in both directions.
You got to be. Willing to take it how you're
dishing it as well. Or it's.
Like you've never done a tweet like that because you understand
ranges of outcomes and probabilities.
Yeah, well, they they always say that like like when you're
listening to an expert, if they're using words like,
probably. In their analysis and while
they're talking that's a good thing.
It's not a bad thing because they're they're they understand
that there's a lot to it's you know it's like the this is the
fox versus hedgehog thing where it's like however is that's
that's a good sign. Moreover, can be.
A bad sign? Right, right.
The tacit knowledge concept as well where it's like if A then
B, but if C is also present then maybe it's D but except when QS
present then Z and like. I mean that's yeah and and I
I've got. Sorry, I was just going to say
really quick, I've gotten heat in the past for not being, like
not having, like strong enough takes.
But I'm just not going to. I, I it's impossible for me to
to be that way. You know what I mean?
Like, it's impossible for me to like, have these.
Like, I like I if you can. Like if you've listened to me
long enough. I feel like people start to
understand, like, when I'm bolder than not.
But like, there's just no reason for me to be like, this is 100%
going to happen because I've played this and done this too
long. It's just not the way that it
works. I love you guys Said a second
ago that that people have the answer in their head of that
what they want you to say. But how much does it, how
tilting is it? This?
I it gave me like some PTSD, 'cause I don't answer a lot of
those questions anymore. But I remember back in the day
when they'd ask you one and you'd answer and you wouldn't
show your work and they'd go, oh really?
Why not the other one? Yeah, like the other guy.
Like, yeah, yeah, I think from a consumer standpoint.
I love what Established Run does because they satisfy different,
like different demands like if someone goes down and camp or
there's a report in camp of a oh, Leonie's like, oh, I ticked
up so and so in the projections, you know in the rankings and
those are updated, of course I'm going to go look at those to see
like what what those updates are And on the flip side.
I love the Silva versus Leonie show.
In fact, I think that Silva capitulates way too much.
Now to to Leonie like he's every time he can pitch capitulates.
I'm just like no Silva stand up for yourself.
I also think that the match with like what cause like I actually
had this is a spoiler. But tomorrow's Late Round
Perspectives episode is with Denny Carter and.
Like it was, it was the first time we've we've ever podcasted
together. Yeah, first time we were podcast
together too. And so we were, I was talking to
him about like how Rotoworld slashes because he's you know
has this like journalism background.
He obviously approaches fantasy analysis and writing a little
bit different than like you know, we would let's say.
And so I was asking him how like you know Rotoworld changed the
way that he approaches things and stuff like that.
And I think that we've seen it from a lot of Rotoworld people.
Where and and Pat, you can obviously chime in if you agree
or disagree here. But like, I think that like like
a Levitan, for instance. Like there's no one in the game
that's better at analyzing news than Levitan.
Like that's what like like that's what he does.
And he's if you could have 5 Twitter accounts, you would have
Levitan. Yeah.
Right. Like he he understands how to
read between the lines and what's important and what's not
And in doing that and so like. I I think that like like and
I've noticed over the last few years with doing the show with
Denny that like he's brought that to the table more just from
like writing blurbs and and like sifting through all that kind of
stuff and. And I think that's why I like
ETR though with like the Levitan and and Silva obviously coming
from the same spot. But like Levitan and how how
well it works with like a Leonie and Dink then and such is that
just like the combo of of those brains working together just
makes a lot of sense. Yeah, Levitan said when I was
starting over there. He's like, it'll make you better
because it's is it. It's kind of, I mean, I found
it. I think blurring.
Some people don't mind it so much and then some people and
I'm one of these people are just kind of like, oh man, like it
just kind of it just wasn't. It's just like, well, I also
would do to get the walk through done.
I would put both of my I would do 2 shifts on Mondays.
So like from 8:00 to 6:00 I would just be like blurbing.
And you know, that's a bit of a grind.
But like you. You just start to like
understand so much more about, you know, like you just do it
enough or you're like, what is, what does this mean when this
happens? What does this DNP, oh, you
know, like little things like, we all kind of know, but like
adding a guy pops on Thursday after not being on the Wednesday
DNP, it's like. He's not fine.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Well, do you know what's so funny about that?
Pat and I was thinking about this this week with before the
trade deadline, right. And Adam Schefter had the
article Titans are not going to Trade Derek Henry.
And then you read the second line of.
Of the article and it says. But they would actually consider
it if they got an offer that they like.
They're like, we're intending not to trade him, and we told
him we weren't. But if we get something like, we
might consider it. And that is the thing too, of
probably like the value to the blurb writers who are actually
writing the blurbs and doing the research and reading the source
material. It's incredibly valuable.
But because of the nature of the beast and how you have to get
people to click stuff and you need a compelling.
Headline, most people are only consuming the headline.
Like I would say probably 90%, and that's maybe even being
generous, are consuming the headline.
But the people who are actually doing the blurb research and you
see the sickos in the best ball space, they're reading the
athletic articles, they're reading the full reports.
Like all the guys I respect to, you know, like guys like JM and
Sean Siegel, like they're watching every press conference,
reading everything because there is things to pull out of the
new. That's a pretty big edge now.
I think the press conference it's a huge edge, but it's not
distilled. Into the headline.
But the headline has to be part of the, you know, fantasy
industrial complex. But it.
It isn't the. Actual important part of it, but
that's everything in our in our world now where there's a
headline and then there's nuance and like and JJ was just saying
with the ranks, like there is a lot of nuance in what we do.
And so yeah, it's like if you put the time and you'll
understand more of the nuance and you'll be able to apply it.
I also think there's like a thing where you learn.
I remember in the summer there was a blurb potential, like I
was on shift and I there was a article on ESPN.
And they were talking about was like one of the national
reporters was at camp talking to the coaches and they referenced
funnily enough it might have been Chase Edmonds but it was
they said something like he is their third down back and so
it's like OK so they're so they're playing him on 3rd downs
like he's going to have a third down role and.
Reading the article, it's like, no, that's not what is being
said. What is being said is this guy
does this thing, he's good at receiving and they like that
about him, but it's like put in the term, he's their third down
back, you know, I didn't blurb that and I'm glad I didn't
because it's like that's actually that's like a fake
headline kind of thing. But I don't think there's like
the. A local beat who's been there
all summer wouldn't have put it in those terms.
But like someone from a national source who goes in and it's just
like, here's the lay of the land.
Might be. So you learn a little shit like
that. Did you have you guys seen the
Coach Speak index account on Twitter?
That's an awesome account. It's really, like really good.
Yeah, it's really good. Yeah.
Oh, there it is. Yeah, there's someone.
Yeah. And and honestly, and this isn't
to take anything away from like all of the research he's done,
but literally just someone aggregating the source material
of the press conference. Quotes.
Yeah, right. But there's a need.
There's a need, right? Like, there's a need like, like
that. That's the thing that like like
everyone's always like, oh, there's, you know, everything in
the fantasy industry is already filled.
And I'm like, I guarantee you, it's not.
I mean, and then they're like, well, what what?
You know, like when people are asking me for advice or
whatever, they're like, well, what can I do to, you know, find
to differentiate myself and stuff.
I'm like, I mean, if I knew that, I would probably do it
myself and try doing it. Yeah, right.
Like they're gonna know, like who you are as an analyst and
what you want to do and all that kind of stuff.
But like the coach speak thing is a perfect example where like
that was not really served and this season it pops up and
they're crushing. It's been awesome and and I've
and it's given me more like, you know Sean McVeigh as someone
who's been pretty truthful the way he talks about his
backfield, that's the best part about it.
They've actually researched the different head coaches.
We all had our opinions of that, but they're like this is a
percentage. In like heading into Sunday, I
remember that the Super ambiguous week and it's like,
you know we're all kind of holding on to the Zach Evans
wish casting and I remember updating it.
I I because I wrote the post for Fantasy Life on Sunday morning.
It's like it's Darrell Henderson and Royce Freeman.
Like this is very clear. He said it all week.
He said it all week and he's a trustworthy narrator and we used
to not be able to get that. Yeah, yeah, that.
That McVeigh stuff with the Ram's backfield was funny how
like. You know, I understand people,
you know, going ham for Zach Evans, whatever.
I'm not even going to talk down on that.
But like when Wednesday hit and they asked McVeigh that question
at the presser where they were like Zach Evans going to be like
the guy. And he was like basically he was
just like, no, like, it's just not going to happen.
And immediately you had all these people coping about, you
know, with their, with their Evans shares after the fact, but
it became pretty obvious that they just weren't going to go in
that direction, Yeah. That was a sick block from
George Pickens, 'cause that was a really good play by the safety
there and he couldn't hit him too hard.
He would have got, you know, an unsportsman like crack back.
He just like shoulder bumped him.
That was sweet. That's good.
I got him in my points per block league to the to the coach
begin. Next thing there was AI.
Think Jeff Ceriebeck, who's a beat writer for the Ravens,
tweeted out that Lamar Jackson said he wanted more.
Bershad Bateman involved and like, I was like and he tweeted
a picture of it and I was like, I was sick.
Like there must be a link to this.
Like, where's the press conference?
Like how do I see? I want to see this Warren.
Warren. 3rd Catch Push. I'm already so spoiled that I
couldn't see it. Deontay scores at TD here and we
we went tonight, boys. Yep, Deontay TD would be great.
Sorry Pat, I missed that. What?
What was the actual quote? Well, I never got to check.
I need to like go scour YouTube. But I was just like, it was just
reminding you of this. Was that this week?
I think it was this week. Yeah.
So I'm like, I believe it was. I hope it was didn't didn't
really happen last week. Exactly.
Were you dreaming? But yeah, it's just like it just
reminded me, Oyster Block to set up a touchdown.
You needed it. Set himself up.
We have yards there, right picket passing, TD picket
passing and the higher on. Pickens TDs do.
We have yards for Pickens. It also helps all the the
Titans. Catching props, yeah.
Yeah, so now it's a kitchen scoreboard buddy.
Scoreboard. Oh, and Warren's almost there.
He's way up. Warren's almost there as a as a
Titans fan and you actually like him like.
Oh no, we didn't get out. Oh my God.
Scoreboard. Scoreboard.
Me. Kitchen scoreboard, man, drag
your foot. Why don't you drag?
As a Titans fan though, we're living in this like best case
scenario where if you if you lose, you lose and you're just
going to get a better draft pick.
As long as there is like evidence that Will Levis can be
the guy, which I think this game has.
If they win, that means Levis is playing well.
Right. And if they lose, as long as
Levis is like the Titans offensive line's one of the
worst in the league, you don't want Zach Wilson wins.
This is what you're telling me. No Zach Wilson, Right.
Right. And so and so, like, if if
Pittsburgh wins, like, then we just get a better draft pick.
Can I give you guys a take on that play?
I really don't care. Everyone makes me so mad.
I feel like you're naturally trying to put your foot down so
you don't fall down. But wide receivers on the
sideline? The good ones like the DeAndre
Hopkins. It's it's just a focus thing.
But they should always drag and be willing to go to the ground
out of balance. That's my point, right, 'cause
you might not be able to then keep your feet that should that
every single time the 1 foot should go down, the other foot
should drag. And there's certain receivers
that do it every time and there's certain receivers that
don't. And it's a difference between
like. Huge play sometimes.
Like, it's a lot of points. Like DeAndre Abbott scores a lot
of touchdowns because he does that I don't ever catch, yeah.
Like got a drag that that should have been a touchdown.
It has to be dragged. And if you have to go to the
ground, then go to the ground, but like drag your fucking foot.
That's all you. I mean, you have to drag your
foot at that spot. Did you guys have the, did you
guys go with the picket over touchdowns too?
Yes. That one would have been very
nicely correlated there. Yeah.
Yeah, I do think Pickens is typically very good at that.
Joey just said I there are some receivers that never do it that
piss me off. I actually think Pickens is
pretty good at this and it's pissing me off because that's
why I'm. I'm pretty surprised that that
happened, 'cause he's usually got, like he's got amazing body
control. He's usually like good at those.
Did you say he has an amazing body?
You know, No, Kitchen said that. Tell me about it.
You know, I don't know numbers guy.
I don't know numbers. I just look at their bodies and
I, you know, look at. Their bodies.
Get a good feel for who? I mean, it's funny because
because like that is sort of what we do in training camp.
Like we laugh and we laugh, but in in August, we're basically
just looking at these dudes bodies.
Yeah, I mean, I know every, I know every guy's body in the
NFL. Thank you.
I know their numbers though too, to be fair.
Obvious you know like they're get you a man who knows both the
numbers and their bodies. All right.
I'm probably going to drop. I know you guys said second
quarter only Yeah I got have been on like for the first yeah.
So the sun started trying we got to get Stefan to talk a little
wavers here in a bit but we you guys joined.
Oh it's awesome. It's amazing.
It's effortless like. And This is why I love.
I love the tree, right. Because.
Oh, Grove. What about the Grove?
Thanks for letting me graft on there.
Kitchen. What about the Grove?
You're welcome. Yes.
The Grove. The Forest is is awesome because
it's at the end of the day. It is about the friends that you
make along the way. So yeah, I mean, it's honestly,
it is true. Oh, there it is.
There it is. Can we get fireworks one more
time? Yeah.
Get some fireworks on the way
out. Oh God, Fireworks for the road.
How did he do it? I think you got to turn him more
to the to the up. Did you go up?
Because it needs to see your thumbs.
JJ, there it is. There it is.
Would well love you guys. Thanks for having me on.
You're the man. We appreciate you, JJ.
Anything you want the people to check out here, just go to
lateround.com, look at my ugly mug and see what I'm offering.
And you say as you start sets there's no rankings and you'll
personally answer all. Sets.
Yeah. Yeah.
I won't answer. Yeah.
Every starter. When you join, make sure you
join the Discord and just tag me constantly all day.
Be great. Be great.
I think you're good with this crew.
I appreciate you guys. This was a blast.
All right, guys. Thanks.
All right. We'll see you guys later, Steph,
whenever you'd like to to tap in.
I know we're a little later tonight, but Steph, happy to
have you swing by talk a little Week 9 waivers in our high
stakes portfolio when you are good to go.
What a blast that was. Man.
This game kind of hasn't been great.
But also, I mean, it's been fantasy relevant these these
field goal drives, the ball's been moving.
There's yards in this game. Yeah, there's yards.
There's been some nice runs. It's been a nice game.
The kind of half walk while you hang out with some buddies,
that's that's exactly that kind of game.
That's the thesis. It is that the not getting the
picket TD in the Pickens yards there is extremely.
Tilting. So tilting.
But we are in really good shape for our core.
We just need some Deontay Johnson.
It also the the the game script. We needed the TD.
The game script isn't getting. Yeah, they're gonna just keep
running. Now you're Henry 'cause the
Allen Robinson's second catch, has it come?
So the Henry under was important.
We wanted a a Pittsburgh TD there, yeah.
That was that was bad. Yeah, it was.
So we should note as long as Deontay Johnson gets there,
we'll do the giveaway right the because because Warren only has
three catches. So if that if that pushes we'll
still get it's still a win on our account.
So yeah we'll we'll do the giveaway.
If. If Deontay gets there.
Yeah. Which is I mean Pickett only has
108 pass yards. Maybe when I said I was more
sure of this anything in the world I should have thought
about the fact that Kenny Pickett is the quarterback.
Well, we knew there's many messages of us all laughing that
we were going to lose this because of Deontay.
And here we are with both legs having our even.
We're fine. Like this game being close is is
a boon for for all of this stuff.
Yes. Is it?
Warren and Deontay are still very much in play.
Yeah, Beyoncé's at 6.80. Come on, come on.
Burks, Burks. Burks.
No, that's Beyoncé. They're down to Hutchings.
Shit. Well, they're gonna.
They might have to punt right away, which wouldn't be bad.
Steph, what's up? No, I'm not a chair, you guys.
We're we're hanging in there. Thank you for accommodating our
little later. Start tonight for you.
Oh, of course, no problem. I.
I wish I could do the part. Yeah.
Can you do this? Try it, it might work.
It might, OK. Nothing.
Next time you got to hire some, you know, paid actors.
Fireworks behind you. You know clearly I.
Can get the dog. You have a dog and you haven't
brought him on string yet. I have a Chihuahua.
You have a Chihuahua and. You have a hat.
You got to see the Chihuahua. Steph.
Steph is just not your favorite. Well, let me see if I can get
her, because she is not trained and I think he orders.
Taco Bell. And you have a little Chihuahua
that could come on you'll. Get on Taco.
Bell She looks like the the Taco Bell.
Oh, no. You know how much we're wanting
to get a Taco Bell endorsement? I almost had her.
She ran. She was under the table.
She doesn't, she but when she wants to be picked up on her
terms. If I want to do it, are her
terms that we hit our five leg? Is that what is that?
What her terms? I'll have to like, run and like,
go try to get her and coax her stuff.
Was that an? Automatic at some point.
You got it. What's What's the Chihuahua's
name? Bella.
You know Bella.
You know Taco Bella. She knows Bella.
It's wow. Taco Bell having a Chihuahua
named Bella while we do this whole, you know, Bell bit seems
like something we should have known.
Important piece of information. Yeah, exactly how was How was
this week for you Steph, the title of your your post this
week on fabulous football at your terrific newsletter was
Week 9 is Not Fine. I was picturing the dog on fire
emoji there. Well, that was more in reference
just to the wave or wire itself. So I mean it was just gross when
Leonard Fournette is one of the top plays.
I mean, that's not, you know, the best sign.
Yeah, I mean, it was so it was Fournette, but wouldn't you?
Was it Will Levis who was going for the most amount of money in
leagues? Yeah, I mean Levis.
And I've grown him as my top also.
But there was a few others, but like Demario Douglas, we already
had on teams, Shakur, few other quarterbacks ended up being
available in a lot of leagues that went for a lot of money.
But other than that, I mean those were kind of you know the
higher priced guys that we saw and some, you know a few of the
receivers, if you know or if there was somebody you know in a
league that shouldn't that isn't in most of them.
Who did you think was the big, the big prize this week on on
waivers, Cost adjusted, let's say?
I mean, I think, I mean it looks like lovers can play.
So I mean I think getting you know a young upside quarterback
with all these injuries and bye weeks and stuff is could pay off
big And then I don't know, we'll we'll have to see if Lenny can
do something there and have this playoff.
Magic, but trying to think. And then I like Shakir.
I mean he could you know if I mean it depends how much time
Knox misses. We talked about how many more
routes and how much more, you know 11 personnel they use when
they don't have two tight ends out there.
So that was big for him. Been trying to guess the third
guy in that offense for a while receiver wise.
So seeing him kind of pull away with the job is nice.
I'm I'm pretty interested in Demario Douglas.
I'll, I'll be honest, like you see what Kendrick Bourne did in
that offense. You see the thing about him too
is I think the misnomer is that he's just kind of the waiver
wire flavor of the week. But if you go look at his
targets per route run, he's been earning targets this entire
season in the offense. And yeah, and I I think he, I
think he's going to be a thing like I think he can give us like
95% of like what Kendrick Bourne was doing like down the rest of
the stretch. I I think he's a legit ad.
I mean he he also feels like their answer for what they had
with Jacoby Myers last year, which Juju wasn't able to be the
answer for. Yeah, even.
I think it's a little bit different role than Bourne.
But yeah, one, I mean even. Oh no, I was just going to say
it's tough with. It's tough with Douglas because
the match up is so good this week.
Oh wait, was that Burks? It was, but he only got like 4
yards. God.
Damn it, we'll take it. Hey, it's.
Better than before. It's better than nothing because
when you look at Douglas with the target earning stuff, he
looks really good and then he's got a really good match up.
So I'm happy to start him in places where we need to.
Like we're starting him on the Leone team and it's probably
like our third worst start on the team, Maybe fourth.
Yeah. Well, I I did know in the
walkthrough that he has a really low open score and has faced a
really low rate of double coverage.
So he does seem like the type of dude, like I think he was
probably better off with Bourne there and just operating as like
a nice number two option on that team.
It's kind of like talent wise where he seems to be at right
now. Chad's saying that Burke's is
hurt and then Taiji Spears, who we have the receiving over on,
just caught like a -8 yard pass. Burke's got hurt.
How so? He's farther away.
Well, that's not good. Yeah.
The only thing too, I mean, like, I mean how many, how many
double teams is he going to face from the slot, you know, on
Well, yeah. Fair enough.
That's that's just the don't admire anything.
It's like God, the well, I think the point I should make with the
Myers thing is Myers consistently got all the targets
all last year and everyone kind of knew it.
But you don't really double team the slot.
It's a different type of role Mack was comfortable throwing
there and I I do think that's it's at Pete's point I I
completely agree with this take. I think Douglas could be a legit
like consistent producer the rest of the way.
I've picked him up in like home leagues that are like pretty
shallow. I cut Quinton Johnston in a home
league to pick up Demario Douglas because I had to start
him. If you that's not starting
Quinton Johnson. Gretch I told someone that exact
someone gave me that exact same question in the Fantasy Life
Discord I was like if you have a sick team and you're coasting
the playoffs Dash QJ I was like if you need to start this week
or need to rack up wins you you play Douglas over Yeah.
Yeah, Steph, anything else interesting to you?
Going down to Tier 3, you got some Flyer tight ends.
Darren Waller might be placed on IR.
Definitely missing this week. Donald Parham in here, then
we're down into kind of the Flyer wide receiver territory.
Anything else jump out to you? Well, if he's small to the very
end, I if if Demario Douglas isn't a thing, maybe we can get
Taekwon. No, I'm joking halfway.
But, but I I know you know, so that that's pretty much it
because most of those other guys and I kind of tried to say you
know they're more if you need a fill in.
They're not people I would pick up that have a ton of upside.
But it's like there's been a lot of injuries.
So if one of your guys is hurt and you or you know everyone's
on by and you need to start. That's kind of it.
You know, DPJ, some people are a little more excited about than
others. You know, it's kind of just a
big mess at the moment. I think that everybody outside
of, you know, Almond, Raw and Laporta just is rotating and it
might, you know, I don't know if any of them are going to come
away with the big rule, but but I've seen some people and they
went for a little more in a few leagues, so there's a few people
hyping him up somewhere. But we did it really.
I mean, we put a dollar a few places.
That was about it. Didn't we get Van Jefferson on a
team and you had to break that news to Gretch?
Yeah, Gretch was not happy, but I think it was stat.
Chasing. Right.
No, it was that was on take shift taking.
Oh, that's on. Shift taking.
But he was way down there. It's just on.
It was on the dollar, like way down there.
I'm managing that team out of protest the rest of the season.
I I made it very clear, Steph. I would say our last week was a
pretty good week for our portfolio.
We have. We've got a lot of teams in the
playoff hunt, a lot of teams scoring a ton of points.
Was that your read on the situation as well?
Yeah, we, I mean overall we had more wins and losses for sure
and I mean a lot of our most, I mean we have very few teams that
I would say are dead if any you know I mean most of them are you
know and. Definitely a competitive spot
or, you know, with a little bit of luck could still definitely
make it. Yeah, like FFC portfolio, the
worst place we're in is a 6th place with Davis and I mean if
you adjust for having Davis as the Co manager, it means like.
We're just absolutely smashing like across our entire NFFC
portfolio. The FFPC portfolio is doing well
too 'cause we got it is our team with Daryl's doing really well.
Yeah, Chase and go Bills 3rd place, our mini sod episode.
And I I was that team. You guys that team is this was
this was a true zero RB team. And I was messaging you guys
that this was why like 0 RB works because it has Jordan,
Addison, it has Depot, Samuel, these guys that give you you
know splash weeks. But then you have to you have to
weather the storm And it also has DK Metcalf.
It has CD lamp. It has A.J.
Brown like you just keep going and it's been able to always get
4. It has Brandon Iuke.
It gets stud wide receivers in that lineup every single week.
Yeah it's it's been awesome. Super fun too.
It's a Tua Mostert Miami QB running back stack which has
been amazing. That's sick too.
Our team with Sean is also in first.
Yes it is. Jason's still in bananas is
doing really well. I should I should pull that one
up. That's a fun team because it's
the the Travis ETN. Not this week.
Oh my God, I just realized the buy ETN McCaffrey, Laporta down
there at the bottom. Also Laporta on a buy.
This was a team we talked about on stealing Bananas today,
'cause we're talking about how Tua and Laporta have both been
hits and I I was like, we have both of them on this team.
And Sean was talking about how some of the rosters we built are
very balanced. This is a great example of a
team where we feel like we have really good quarterback, a
really good tight end. We have McCaffrey and Etienne at
running back and then we have, we spent upper Puka here, we got
Puka, we got after Week 1 here, I believe.
Yeah, it's not as strong wide receiver wise.
You don't have an elite #1 because you did take McCaffrey
in round one, but it is a really good wide receiver group.
It has basically. And we lost Dobbins on this
team, right? We did.
That might be right. This was a Dobbins team because
it was basically we had three running backs we invested in and
then we lost Dobbins. That's why our receiving core is
Hyatt QJ, Mims Burks and we're waiting for a lot of those guys
to to break. They might not.
We do have JSN down there, which is nice.
I like him better than those other names.
We got JSN a lot of places. We sure do.
Although what the Metcalf hasn't been practicing, Lockett's been
limited. You know, who knows?
I would say like our worst team is probably the Crack Rock team,
right? That team's been struggling 11th
place, but the points are still OK.
I mean that team's brought somehow though in waivers.
I get the best guys for like a dollar on that team randomly all
the time. I mean, but like like last week
I had like it happened to go against like another team that
had like I forgot but it was ridiculous.
It was like CMC speedy. Like, that was like the only
reason this team lost. Like, last week it actually.
Did pretty like it. Put up a lot of points, yeah,
yeah. But that's probably Bruce Hall,
Devante Smith, DeAndre Hopkins, Tray McBride and Jake Ferguson.
And we still lost like that. Seems absurd.
I mean, knowing with the scores they put up last week.
Yeah, yeah, nuts. Yeah.
If you ran into, I know we had some teams right where you ran
into. I think it was in stat chasing.
We played against ACD Lamb A.J. Brown team.
Well it I I I played against Go Bill's this week myself.
If you Scroll down, they they already saw the blurb.
So yeah, go Bill's day's winning here.
What's What's the latest from your group chat?
With with Wu Tang and and Chris G, have you been having to
battle them, Knock some sense into them?
Is Chris G taking any LS on CD Lamb?
I mean he hasn't taken the L on CD layout, but he he, he, you
know, we we've been pretty In Sync lately about our decisions
We're we're getting better. I.
Mean. Except let's go, Deonte.
Does Brooks actually hurt, though?
Are we screwed there? Yeah, I think so.
Jeff. Mueller have so he looks like he
injured his left knee again. Oh, great.
Geez, his left knee injuries, Did he step out or did he get
those extra yards? I want those extra yards.
He stepped out right there. Come on.
Yeah. How?
How are you feeling about things in general, Stephanie, is that,
you know, we're entering the we're entering the homestretch
here. There's only a few regular
season weeks left in in these waiver contests.
Yeah and and we do go all the way until the playoffs form by
the way I did look after you asked the last week so it is a
little longer than they kind of changed a few things this year
it looked like. But I mean I like I said, yeah,
I think we definitely have several teams that could make a
run at it. So hopefully you get a big hit
and I'm pretty excited about our waiver chasing team.
I think it's coming on at the right time and it's got some
legs like you know all we need is basically one team to have a
get a loss and we we might be leading the pack there at if we
don't get the points just with our win loss record alone.
Yeah, let me pull up this team here.
It's an interesting team. Chickens just lost like 4 yards
and now has negative receiving yards, 2 catches for -1 yard.
Just a fun update there. Great great waiver chasing here.
Walk us through this team staff we this was this was the team
where we basically punted Week 1 because we drafted this team
live in Vegas. But we have.
Travis Kelsey and and run it down here.
Well, yeah. Well, we got Kelsey.
He fell. So we got that hen like in the
late we got in the second round. We took Garrett Wilson with our
first pick. Then we of course had to you
know do our Bruce Hall thing. Don't think who else we had Oh,
this originally was an well, we have Gibbs who?
Yeah, that was amazing. Well.
He's one of you. We had Rogers.
HALL We could have taken etn. Which would, Which even now, we
probably should have. But it feels less worse than it
did to have taken Gibson. Yeah, this was a Rogers Garrett
Wilson stack. This team would be so dope.
With Rogers healthy, I know. Yeah, yeah, that's what.
It, Shawn. Dropped the stat on me today
that was like the there's like 4 receivers that have a 33% plus
target share or something like that.
And it's like you know the three elites and it's like Tyree Kill,
I don't know, A.J. Brown, Alman Ross St.
Brown, something like that. And then?
And then Garrett Wilson is the other one and it's like, I mean
he's dominating his passing game, but he has Zach Wilson and
QB. I was like every week when I
look at his stat line, I'm like how did he get to 100 yards?
Like it's just incredible how he's doing it.
He would have absolutely scorched the earth this year.
I mean, debris Hall Garrett Wilson campaigns with a 17 weeks
of Aaron Rodgers would have been face melting.
It would have been fun. It's actually not like we did a
pod on Monday talking through the leg up rankings and Kyle was
like this is like a 10th percentile run out for Breece
and. Yeah.
Exactly.
Like, because not just the Aaron Rodgers injury, it's that Zach
Wilson has somehow, like, fooled them into thinking they didn't
need to add a quarterback when they so clearly should not be
going with Zach Wilson. It's like there there are
universes where like, he at least has Carson Wentz, I think.
Yeah, right staff, Matt says. Here we are burying the lead.
House will give us the Scott Fishbowl update.
How we doing? Well.
So I needed six points, which I thought I, you know, I thought I
had a win. And then I had Devonta Adams
somehow along with Jacoby Myers, you know, combined for two
catches and, you know, watching him miss that touch that, you
know, or that long pass, wide open, get overthrown and
whatever happened was a mess. So I had my first loss by three
points and then I missed the league median, I think by .44 or
something like that, or less than a point.
So it gives you 2 losses because you're playing two games, but
I'm in 18th place. But I mean, I'm a little worried
about Adams. You know, just a tad.
I I think this is this week. Sets up well for him.
You know last time they had AOC he got peppered with targets.
Nothing you know scary about the Giants.
You blow it up here. New new coaching staff.
I don't know. I think.
I think this could be like A10 target Devante Adams game.
It could be. I mean, hopefully I'm then I was
thinking at the Giants can't do anything.
Do they just try to run it ineffectively with Jacobs the
whole game? So that's kind of my other
flight fear, but who knows? And I don't know what to do with
Myers either. I got him in a couple places.
I had a little worried about starting him.
So we'll see. Yeah, the Myers, the one game
with AOC was his lowest game of the year, which is kind of, but
again, we're talking about a one game sample size.
So it's you don't want to. And Meyer's profile, like for
the season, is exactly the same as Adam's.
It's like it's actually nuts. Target wise, Adam says the lead.
But it's like partly driven by the 1st read stuff.
Like there's not a lot of. I think Meyer's having a very
that's Burke, he's all of you. All of you who are in the chat
shitting on Burke's. You can go back and delete your
your posts. Was that enough?
Did he hit it? What did we need?
7 yard all we needed. Was one which I was told was
absolutely impossible. Oh my God, who told you that?
That when we shared that that one.
We got hey. Get Bella on screen if I can get
her all right. Wait, we got to get Doug logos,
right? Now Double Dog.
All right, let me try all. Right, Yeah.
Murphy hates when this door behind me is closed, so he he
doesn't even want to be in here with me.
Most of the time he just comes in and opens that door up and
it's like keep this fucking door open.
Even he leaks. He doesn't even like.
Oh, there. He goes, we got, we got a Oh my
God, look. At this but.
The dog look at Bella. Oh my God.
Geez, how have you? Been holding out Bella on us.
This is the door. I feel Taco.
Bell. She watches normal TV, but she's
like unaware of the computer for some reason, because normally
she would be going crazy if she saw another dog.
Bella really does bear resemblance, dude.
I do the Taco Bell dog. Yeah, we got to reboot those
commercials starring Bella. God, Bella's.
Going to make me relapse and order a Crunch Wrap Supreme
tonight, Pete. I got hungry and I didn't even
realize it till you said and I was like, I'm hungry.
Oh my God. Bella's adorable.
As in Murphy. I don't want.
I don't want to, you know. No, no, Murphy.
But it's just the first time we've seen Bella.
You. Know he can't hear look.
At these dogs. This is adorable.
But yeah, they're both adorable.
Yeah. Mike Bella, say the line.
She does sing sometimes to certain commercials.
She howls along. I have a video of her summer
like way back on my Twitter where she she always sings.
She sings to the opening of Jimmy Kimmel for some reason.
Really. Like almost.
I'm cute. She likes certain jingles of
commercials. I love it.
All right, we need a Chig. We need a cheap catch here,
Steph. It's great catching up with you,
as always. I mean, can can we just make
Bella a staple of your appearances, too?
I mean, we love having you on the show, but you with Bella is
just an unbeatable combination. Another level.
Of course. All right.
Bella's gonna bring good luck. We're we're trying to we're
trying to ring the bell. You know exactly how old is
Bella? He's almost 13.
Oh my gosh, in wise beyond her years, she looks really good for
13. Yes.
She's. Sharp.
Young and. Sharp, Yeah.
She doesn't look a she still, she still runs around, acts like
a she acts like Cujo. She does not like other dogs or
people. She perks everybody She she.
Seems. To like the camera, though,
she's looking right. The.
Camera loves it. She's yeah, Bella does ball for
sure. Well Steph, we appreciate you as
always. You're going to take us to the
promised land in many of these high stake leagues.
All of you need to be following Steph on Twitter as well as her
weekly newsletter. And I know I screen share the
second part of the newsletter, but Steph is now doing A2
parter. The first part is more for home
league stuff, so even if you aren't playing in high stakes
leagues. That addition is very valuable,
and then you can also get the high stakes version that
includes. The.
The wrap up of our teams if you want to check in on how we're
doing. So, Steph, appreciate all your
great work and always great catching up with you.
Yeah, thanks guys. And Stella, more people have to
go to the dog park sometime, yes?
There you go. Great seeing you, Steph, and of
course, Stella. Anytime we we want to ring the
bell, we're going to be thinking about you for sure.
Yo quiero Taco Bell. I bought.
I bought it. I think, Stella, that was
beautiful. Yeah, it was beautiful.
All right, Steph, we will catch you next week as always for your
hit weekly segment. All right.
Good night, guys. Night, Steph.
Night, that is. So we got.
We got to do a roundup of these. Well, I think start with the
the, the core for the game. There we go.
Yeah, we're up to 8 with Deontay.
We need 2.75, so that's like 2 catches and and that's one point
and then what, 17.5 yards, 2 catches for 18 will do it right?
That'll be good. OK, that'll be two points.
Westbrook Akina is done, but this halftime one, so Warren has
already cleared his Burke. So we see it there on that catch
he should catch. Levis has been dealing.
We still need about 60 yards from him.
Spears, another Chig catch. Yeah, the the Chig catch there.
This one is the Spears and man that.
Can you pick a TD? Didn't we do one with the
Burke's? The Burke's five leg?
Yeah, there it is. The top one.
That's why the Pickens one hurts so much.
He's 10. He's ten. -1 if.
If. That.
Touch they have the little bar, you guys, they have the bar on
the bottom, it fills up when it goes green, Spears is yellow,
Pickens is all the way yellow 'cause he went off the the the
thing it reset the bar and it's reset the bar can't.
Handle it it. Can't handle.
It. Oh God.
Oh man, wow. I I did see this on Twitter.
Brett Coleman has Pickens at half yards.
For his? Oh my.
God. God, that's so tilting.
He was over it and then he went behind it with that.
What's the bootleg deal? What is that?
I need to go pull it up. Like, how would you get there?
What is that? It's.
I don't know. It says bootleg special here,
bootleg special higher than .5 total yards.
That's so. Brutal.
He's in the same boat with us though.
He needs a chick catch, he. Needs.
Chick Deonte. Yeah, he's got Levis.
Levis actually went over the picket.
One is still a few pass attempts away.
Yeah. Oh, bootleg is podcast.
All right, so they gave him a they gave him a special.
You know what? That's it.
I need. I need to hit up, Andrew.
We need to get a ship cast special.
Interesting. You just get a special here with
the bootleg. Yeah, that is interesting.
We're out. We're out.
Other people did podcasts on this content thing.
We get a special. Yeah, I don't know.
Let's tell. Underdogs first.
I don't know. One way or another, it would
just be it would be the rookie every week.
We just need. You know it.
Would have been trailing Berks. It's not hard.
Yeah underperforming rookie every single week.
Every week who we've probably touted don't nausea.
Yeah we we're seriously running down three in the fourth
quarter. I got to get another drink guys.
I'm going to all out going to Joshua Tree tomorrow.
Pete. You are.
Yeah. You dropping a bean?
Dude got a fine guy out there. Is a bean like shrooms?
What is a bean? Dude, If you have to ask, you
can't afford it. Do have to ask.
I don't know what a fucking bean is.
What you doing out there trying to find God?
You trying to trip balls? Dude.
You're now just yelling, 'cause you're worried you might have to
explain what a bean is. Nature's nature's not enough for
you, man. You got to fucking drop a bean
out there to enjoy. I thought you.
I thought you were pro bean. I am pro bean, but I'm just
wondering why you're dancing around it.
Just admit it. You're dropping a bean out
there. Dude.
Listen, what are you doing out there?
I'm interested. I'm interested in this bean
concept. I would just like to know what
what exactly it is. I'm just asking what you're
doing out there. Is bean for is that.
Does that mean acid? What is it?
But I'm not allowed to say on this show.
We're sponsored by underdog. I don't want them to be
associated with a bean. We're we're we're camping.
Hiking sounds like A and a pair of dropping a bean to me.
We might we might be doing rock climbing.
Although I don't really know how to rock climb, but I'm going to
rent some shoes and. See how that goes.
Yeah, you're. Going to be climbing some rocks,
some crack rocks, that is. That's right.
Yeah, There you go. We're going to scale the beam.
Nice dude That sounds. Sounds nice.
Yeah, should be good. Who are you going with?
Friends. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna get the
walkthrough done before you're dropping a bean and scaling.
It out here. Yeah, I mean, I only, I don't
boulder, but when I do, I'm tripping bean.
That's just how I do it. The.
I did. Did you realize because I saw
this on Twitter it a lot of people thought you and Gretch
were in a game of long form 1 upsmanship.
You know your 4 hour walkthrough Gretch's 20,000 word stealing
signals intro. Is that true?
No, we're not. We just both.
Well, I actually have an editor now, so maybe that's it.
Said I tried. I tried to whittle this down and
it's not any shorter. But no, it's it's a it's a
personal failing on my end. I I I just, I don't know why I
went so long. Last week I I I think it's
shorter this week. This week it's shorter.
Give me a time. Well, I was confused because I
think I made a comment to Lauren and I was like, yeah, Pat, I had
like a four hour podcast and she was like why is that?
And I was like, well, there were no buys.
And then I was like well before the buys, I don't remember them
being 4 hour podcast, you know, you know they weren't but you
know what it is, it's that before the buys we only have
like kind of the fundamental statistics but we're but we're
just trying to figure out like the noise of those, right.
But we don't need to, like, get into the weeds on anything
because, like, right? No one's like, are we like, are
we sure this guy's the number one?
We're pretty sure who the number one is now.
Now we're trying to figure out like more minor details.
And then at the end of the season, we don't care about so
much stuff. It actually feels more like this
week where like this team basically doesn't have an
offense. This team's completely tanking.
Like there's just like you can write off like four or five
teams even if there are no bias. But last week was like, I just,
there's like more stuff seemed to matter.
So I just, I don't know. I found myself like.
Writing a lot about various various themes and situations,
so this week was much tighter. Yeah.
All right. Kenny Pickett just missed a wide
open Deante Johnson for a little quicker that was.
We got our friend Sean back here.
This is the man who initially brought us to a a zero to 10 on
Josh Reynolds. He's got a new one for us.
Guys, this is a this is an interesting one.
We gotta we gotta chew on this on ABBM 4 scale of zero to 10.
How would you? Rate Derrick Henry and how he
initially framed this question. I assume he means it Here, too,
Is like how you would feel about him just across the entire
contest, playoffs included. Do you want this guy on your
squads? Zero to 10.
Deontay, baby. Let's go.
That's big 8.8 dot. Yeah.
Good call, man. Great call on that.
That's not an old school Deontay play.
That's a fucking Higgins play. Yes.
Boom. Do we get it?
It needed to be. It's got to be very close.
It's got to be super close. He got it, he got it, we got it.
So we're at least out of push, but man a jailer for the clean.
But we are. So fill out the form.
You did it. If you have not filled out the
form, you need to fill out the form.
I'm going to give away $200.00 to chat again.
Again, please, if you've already filled out the form, don't make
me. I'm just going to go remove
duplicates and you're just going to create extra work for me,
which I will do. They're giving Jalen all the
rushes and he's fucking rumbling, bumble and stumbling.
Did he just what? Did he just score that?
Yeah, he has. Oh my God my my phone froze so I
missed it. We didn't get to pick it past TD
cause Jalen Warren's too fucking good.
Oh it's too good dude. 1st and goal 1st and goal dude.
If this is Inaji dude, how funny is fancy football?
No, it's at the half yard line. There's no way this isn't going
to be nausea. We just need them to lose
yardage. That's what we're rooting for
us. We need them to review it and
say it's a score for the best ball bags.
All right, I'm dropping this link in the chat.
Do not fill this out if you've already filled it out.
After this, we do got to get back to Sean's question because
I think it's a good one. That's not a score.
All right, how about a play action?
You got stuff. That's what you you knew it was
coming, but you? Needed the stuff.
You needed the stuff. Yeah.
Now we might get a play action roll out maybe a little dump off
to the, you know, the Darnell watch.
I think 11 way to think about this question is where would you
draft Derrick Henry now, right. Like that's a good starting
point. Like what would what would you
feel comfortable spending on Derrick Henry And because of how
bad a lot of other backs have been, I think the answer is
probably about what you spent. It's not.
No, it's not that much lower. What is it, the fourth round?
I think he's a late second round or early third round pick.
That's where he was. No, I think he's lower than
that, not actually got stuffed again.
And we might have a hole, but we're gonna have to.
No, because like you've you've passed the trade deadline.
You still get the Texans twice in the fantasy playoffs.
He's going nowhere. You're getting a quarterback
upgrade in Will Levis. I I think you have to be
slightly bullish on Henry. More so.
Than that's where I'm at. The season started and he has
he's pure, he's pure 2 down. Some of that receiving stuff
that we were getting the last couple years that helped
underdog famously half DPR. Yeah.
But. But his rushing efficiency has
declined severely over the last couple years.
So that. So getting those screens helped.
And you don't get that anymore. Yeah.
So I don't know. I think the thing that people
have to realize when they're like a four rounder, my initial
thought on this was he's a silent killer and he's like a
three or a four. Like that was my initial
thought. Pat, I'm with you.
And. But I think because of the
landscape of the position, it's like there's not a lot of
alternatives. Did we just get a deontay?
Oh we the, the The thing is and we'll we'll get to answering the
the BBM scale in a second on every play.
The thing that's deceptive guys is you're not like Benchmark.
Like what? I think the temptation is to put
him with the knowledge we have now into the pre season ADP, but
when you actually rank players down, you realize how many guys
are no longer first and second round you're not taking.
Elante Adams over him. Like like that kind of stuff is
now like the backs. Saquan Barkley.
Like, I think I would. I mean like that.
Well, Saquan Barkley is so bad. I know.
I love Saquan Barkley. But like that offense is so bad.
Tony Pollard has not hit the way we want.
I would probably, Yeah. But you're taking Tony Pollard
over Derek Henry without even thinking, right?
I'm. I'm.
I'm saying the wrong names. I'm trying to think of ADP and
I'm saying some bad names. I mean, Pollard still has an
elite workload, like yes, the efficiency's not there, but I
mean I know they got to run Naja on first single, always
throwing. Deonte TD There it is.
Oh yeah. Oh, we already hit that.
Oh, we we, we. Started it TD Yeah, we.
And we oh, we started it. We started Deonte.
That's beautiful. All right, let's let's do our
vote, though, because it sounds like we're scaled.
Let's write this down on a on a piece of paper.
This is Derrick Henry on ABBM 4 scale zero to 10.
Yeah, I don't know, maybe I think about this.
So the the ADP question is interesting.
It's an interesting way to think about it.
But there's also the like the best ball way to think about it
where we're like we are seeking hits.
So because what like and just on this scale like to me like CMCs
at 10. Yeah, CMCs at 10 Tyra kills A10.
Yes, and this is ETNS etns A10. And I'm doing it going forward.
Sure, sure. Do you guys have your votes?
Sorry, what are we voting? I BBM four scale zero to 10, How
would you rate Derek Henry BBM four scale?
I want to know is it scoring to to to to date and rest of season
or just. Yeah, today and rest of season.
No, it should be today and rest of season.
Like if he's helped you. He's helped you.
Yeah, it's for BBM four. I mean, it's back.
It's back. OK You're talking about like
he's if he's advancing. Yeah.
If he's helped you advance like like Ayron would be, you know
like a he. You should get credit for what
he's done. How good has he been right now?
Derek Henry, he's RB2. Yeah, he's had zero 20 point
games and half PPR, but 1719.818.3, those are his three
games over 15 points. All right, I got mine.
You guys have got ears. Pat, do you have ears?
Yeah, I got mine SEC. I got to write mine a little
darker. You're not going to be able to
read it. I'm about to flip my note card.
All right, I'm ready. I got a little notepad.
All right, I am flipping now what is?
Your say, Gretch, It's the pie symbol.
It's 3.14159. Nice.
I gave him. You talked me up to a four.
You talked me up. You.
Guys are out of. Pocket 4/4.
Was where I started, Pat, talking down to 3.14.
I love that you talk. I talked.
I talked you down a bit. Wait, hang on, Seven PP.
If you if you're reviewing teams, you don't want to see
Henry on them. No, I don't do.
Everything broke perfectly for Henry.
He has the nut playoff schedule and he's getting a quarterback
upgrade. No, you want a different pick in
that area, like he doesn't have the nut playoff schedule.
The Texans aren't like some team run all over.
They're they're fine on like the scale of 10987.
It puts him as like a mid third round pick.
He's a good mid third round pick in every draft today.
To me, if it's if it's a one to 10 scale and you're saying he's
a 7, it's a guy you want to see on teams that you drafted and I
don't. I'm glad.
I I'm glad I don't have much. Henry Henry's a guy I'm happy to
not be having. I'd rather have Andrew.
I want to see Andrews there. I want to see.
I want to see Hertz there. I want to see Alan there.
You're listing. You're listing guys who are
first in second round guys. Those are 10s, nines and eights.
I'm. I'm listing guys around a three.
I'm listing guys around. He's ADP if we redraft right
now. No, it's not.
It's a silent killer. It's a silent killer.
It's it's a little bit below 5. Out of pocket where you're
ranking him is like a seventh or eighth round pick.
He is not a seventh or eighth round pick.
No, that's not true. A a 5 1/2 is is middle and I'm
saying four. You're you're saying he should
be going in like the 1-2 turn? The pie thing was just a bit.
I don't actually think he's pie. No, he he he was an early third
round pick and you're saying he's been a hit from that so
he'd be hired? No, I'm talking this is BBM four
scale. It's can this guy win you
$3,000,000? You have to wait.
Things have broken perfectly for Henry.
They have not broken perfectly for him.
I'm with Christ 7's too high, four's too lamp schedules, the
nuts, and he just got a quarterback upgrade.
His playoff schedule is not the nuts.
The Texans are not as bad as we thought.
He got maybe a quarterback upgrade, but Will Levis does not
look like like the second coming of some fucking good
quarterback. I don't know and like he's he's
losing all the passing down work and and he's not been that
efficient so it's like he he's not the only one on rosters your
your ranking is way too out of pot.
You would be massively underweight on that ranking out
of zero to 10. Well, I am underweight, Henry
and I feel and I. Think that's good?
I think I'm like, I'm happy to be underweight.
Henry, what's his current advancement?
Do we know? No.
A4P. It's a four.
If I was at 0 I'd be a one. No bet this is a zero to 10.
This includes the I don't think we need to the world Here's what
happened. You and I don't even agree about
what game we're playing. I we're like we don't know our
scale. Understanding the spirit of the
question If we I think I am understanding the spirit of the
question you guys have take lock on this and it's funny because
the chant is actually you're saying that your sister is the
wicked witch of the West bro. You guys are you guys are losing
everyone here. I just want you to know you guys
are completely off your rocker with this.
You're arguing with him agree with Pat that's the first time.
Literally go to the chat and agree with Pat is the first
thing I see. What are you talking about
Corrine is voting with his bias. See that guy agrees.
Oh wait no that one didn't. Our shares of Derrick Henry and
even I know that he's at like a six at worst going forward.
I was wait, but that's what I was doing.
Pete, you're saying, you're saying that you want to be
overweight Derrick Henry in your portfolio, if he's a six at
worst. I'm talking about BBM four
scale. I have the knowledge.
I don't know what that means. I don't know what a fucking BBM
four scale is. That's what I'm saying.
I think we're interpreting that term differently.
The BBM 4. Scale is.
Odd. Your chances to win $3,000,000
and the things have been have improved from Derrick Henry
since he was drafted. OK, OK, that's so you think that
you would want to be overweight Derrick Henry in your portfolio
going forward because things have been proved for him since
he was drafted. Is that right?
Correct. I disagree with it.
I don't. I don't think that Derrick
Henry's outlook for taking down the $3,000,000 is better today
than it was. I think it's not.
I think it's not like, way worse, but it's not.
But he is someone that I would not want to flip over the cards
on a team and see. Like, not that I would be
terrified to see him, but I just don't.
He's not someone. I'm like, fuck yeah, I got
Derrick Henry or even like good. So Pat, based on your sentiment
of how you did it, like how you described it, in my head, the
worst I could say for his point rating is like 5 1/2.
How you just described it. That's even.
But I'm saying worse. Why?
Because that's even. I'm saying I don't.
I'm not happy to see him. So therefore it should be lower
than 5 1/2 baseline, right? What do you mean though?
That's 5 1/2 is even Pete. No.
What do you mean it is? Five and a half is on.
Hang on. We don't even agree on basic
math. No more questions about zero to
10. From the chat, Pete, 5 1/2 is
the literal midpoint between 1:00 and 10:00, correct?
Pat, how many players are drafted in 18 rounds?
All right, Pat, let me do some math for you. 18 * 12216 players
are drafted. So A5 and 1/2 for me would put
him in the top 100 of the players.
That's not what you're saying. That's not what I mean.
No that's what I'm saying because I'm baking in cost.
I'm saying at his cost how do I feel about him and if I feel
that he's a 5.5 that I mean he's perfectly I feel I feel that
he's perfectly fine at cost. I'm not saying anything about
the I'm saying that I'm pat silent killer pat silent killer
term where you take a running back early and they're good but
not great and and but there's better off.
Yeah, 5.5 means he's perfectly fine pick at the cost that we
paid. And I and I think he's a little
bit below that. So that's why I'd say he'd be
starting at 5 and I took that down a little bit.
Hang on, Just so I understand, like, give me what number is
Alec Pierce 'cause I I could you have a completely frame a
different frame of ref what Alec Pierce would be like.
Like a one. OK, all right.
So you're now putting Alec Pierce within just a couple of
points of Derek Henry. Well, no, I'm saying that Alec
Pierce isn't one because that's the lowest the skill goes.
And I'm saying that's the point. Derek Henry necessarily has to
be much higher than that because the raw points matter.
OK, hang on. If you're saying that Derek
Henry versus Alec Pierce and no, no ADP cost consideration, then
I completely agree with you. But that's not how I interpreted
the question at all. I was mad.
I was thinking that there must be some consideration for where
we were drafting Derek Henry. No, it is EBM four scale and we
have the benefits. Well, that's not.
You keep saying EBM four scale like it's a known term we've all
agreed on. I don't know what the fuck EBM
Four scale is. I just.
I'm just imagining. It is how I feel about the guy
at his current cost. For this is my favorite.
Alec Pierce is improving. With mid shoe though, well, he's
still A1 I'd say. I'd say he's still A1.
Oh my goodness, this is hilarious.
Well, I think we just have a fundamental difference of what
BBM fourscale means Bonesaw, says Pat.
It's the BBM fourscale. Thank you Bonesaw.
Oh my goodness. No.
I think it Pat where if you did your rankings, rest of season
rankings for Best Ball Mania, where would you have Derek
Henry? Well, to be honest, I'd probably
have him around where he was going because there's been so
many injuries and stuff, but I think that's a different.
Point I know it's your point. I know it's I know it's your
point. But I think that's sort of a
different question than saying was he a good pick at ADP
because we're trying to find and it's actually my fault for
framing it this way. But I think we're trying to find
guys who massively exceed their ADP.
And you know in doing so we're also going to find guys who blow
up our teams which sucks. But like when I go through I
want to see Marc Andrews there. I want to see Jalen Hurts there.
I want to I'd rather see Josh Allen there like there's a lots
of I you know there's I wouldn't like to me he's like similar to
Devonte Smith or something like I don't it's like yeah this I I
think not I think delighted to see this dude here is a good is
a good example. Yeah.
But I would, I would literally
put a 7UP for Devante Smith, dead serious.
Like I know you, I know you would by your scale, but I think
that's just your, I think that's a different number for Devante
Smith. What's your number for Devante?
4. Four.
But that's because we're interpreting the question
differently. Yeah.
You're weighted all towards
pass. Yeah.
Yes, Yes.
And Pat, the entire contest. You know better than anyone.
The playoffs are all that matter.
No. No.
I'm sorry. I'm waiting toward the pass in
the the sense that I'm that I'm saying if I could go back and
like redo My Portfolio. Devante Smith is someone that I
wish that I would want like a little bit lower on like not way
lower on but he would be he would be someone I wouldn't be.
So to me a 7 is like oh I he that's better than average.
So I want to be bumping my exposure up relative to to and I
feel that I would not want to be doing that I'd want to have
slight now I'm not completely out of Devante Smith so I'm not
completely waiting into the pass of what he's done so far this
season. We we're determining the
question differently We we fucking agree we agree on
Devante Smith. All I care about is the playoffs
and Derrick Henry's the seven. Devante.
Like Devante Smith. Yes.
He's meaning of A7 is just is just different.
Where do you guys draft Devante Smith right now with for all you
care about is from now until week 17.
Where do you draft Devante? But it's tough.
You draft him in the third draft.
Sure. Yes.
But that's because we're removing about sevens chat seven
are we just we just start thinking about the question
differently. There's a card now.
Thinking about the question differently.
There's a card out right now for Trainlin Burks.
He landed hard on his head. I think he is probably just
concussed. I'm hopeful it didn't look like
much worse. If any show is familiar with
having live shows with very scary card situation, Our first
ever live show. Oh man, the DeMar Hamlin game.
That was rough. No, I mean, I wasn't trying to,
you know, kill the the chat. No, no, the chat.
It seems legitimately scary. Yeah, yeah.
Did you you guys didn't pick up my joke, do you Have you guys
seen the clip on Twitter where the guy just yells at his friend
about the the Wizard of Oz stuff and he's like his sister is the
Wicked Witch of the East, bro. Grow up.
No, I haven't seen that. Oh God, I heard you say Wicked
Witch. I was like, what the what?
Scratch dog, man. Yeah, let's see if we get a
thumbs up here. At least something to make us
feel a little better play right now.
I think his head just hit hard and and his knee's already been
hurting. I mean, I don't know.
It's it's weird. Like his, his neck, his neck.
Does like snap back on it. They're not even showing is he?
Is he laid down and stabilized? I mean, all the players are on
the field, like when it's really serious, they they often like
are huddled around it. I think we, I think we yelled
about the medium scale through that.
His, his head hit really hard and then like part of the, he
gave thumbs up. They're saying they said he
moved his toes. Yeah, the chats came in.
Definitely a concussion. Yeah.
You got concussed. Yeah.
Which sucks. I mean that's like a really
serious, you know, a brain injury's a really serious injury
and we see too many of them. But shit, man, it's not, I don't
think, paralysis or anything, which is what you start to fear
when you start to see this long of a thumbs up.
That's good. He gave a thumbs up, so they
turned. It over on it now.
Now they're going to run the ball.
Titans have 3 timeouts. We got a 2 minute warning here.
This game is about to end. Where are we at on our our
pickups? Because, well, we could leave
the Warren catch to get so the the biggest one that would be
big for us would be some Spears receiving yards because that
would help us hit that other three legger that we did at
halftime. Yeah, and then a Konkwo would
also hit a three legger. So.
So we want to get the time to see the ball back and they're
gonna be in that script that we were hoping for.
Yeah, yeah, Konkwo Beers lost a bunch of yards on one of his
catches in the second-half, which sucked.
He's now at 4 catches for four yards.
It's not ideal. So all we have right now cleared
is the initial three. We do have the and that's not
even technically cleared, it's just reduced down to a two leg.
But we did. Say we would, Yeah, Deontay
smashed. He sure did.
He did. At the risk of reigniting the
the BB, oh God, no. What 'cause I I swear to God,
Pete and I agree. Pete, what percentage of your
portfolio would you want to if you didn't know your own
exposures? What would what exposure would
you want to have on Devonta Smith and Derrick Henry?
Like if you right around the same slightly overweight, 12 to
13% on both. OK, yeah, I would, I would want
to be at, I would want to be at 7% on both.
So I guess we don't agree. Yeah, I'd want to be slightly
underweight on both. Yeah, I to me, those are both
guys I would be very excited to have down the home stretch.
OK. They're loading them into an
ambulance right now. Fuck man.
These shots are like, it's tough.
It's scary like they just they did this with Tyrod Taylor last
week. I mean, you hope?
That it's more precautionary, You know, That's all I'm going
to say. The what was I going to look?
It's a bummer that we don't. Have overtime outs anymore?
Either overtime outs? Yeah, we're on overtime.
Overtime. Oh yeah.
Yeah, I thought you were saying the over on timeouts called.
Yeah, I did. I did bet that secretly it's a
bummer we lost the over on timeouts called Can't hit It
dude. Even trailing man.
That poor dude. It's like every time he starts
to get rolling something, no man undercuts it.
What? Dude?
The thing I hate most about Twitter too, is that there's
Dick heads right now being like this fucking guy.
Well, just like they did with Anthony Richardson.
Yeah, yeah. All right.
So Spears, Spears and Conquo are the rooting interests here.
Works full movement, Donovan said.
Cool, That's good. It did.
It did seem like just a very bad concussion, the way his head hit
the ground. Yeah, yeah.
Jeez. All right, Spears on the field.
How about a little little Spears catching around in the flat?
There we go. He's open.
That's almost the end of the game.
Imagine if we had an interception sweat right now.
We. But I'm like, oh gosh, that sure
he hasn't. Thrown a pick yet?
But that was trying to throw a pick right there.
Oh, someone pointed that the pregame five leg is live if
Henry does not get another carry.
Oh, Allen Robinson hasn't caught another pass.
Oh. Wow.
Is Derek Henry a? It would be a push.
It would be a foot push to four, but he goes down to four.
Holy cow, I. Completely.
Forgot 10. Exer.
What? Yeah, thank you, Chad.
I had forgotten about that. Yeah, this was our five picks.
Henry's half a carry under. Oh my God.
Holy shit. You're not going to play him
though. They just play Taiji in the.
Hurry up. They don't play him in the our
best pick Em, is that they is that they do what they just did
and they shut this down. We want the Steelers to just
close this out. Let's end this out.
Let's get this. Well, the Steelers aren't
throwing anymore. Allen Robinson under's gonna hit
Pete when he caught a pass on the 1st Dr. Dude, if I nail
this, this Henry and Allen, you did.
Dude, these are these are both Pete's.
These are both Pete tackles. JJ told that story about Darnell
Mooney with a long catch, and then no more catches the rest of
the game. And I mean, we're here.
Yeah, amazing. Wow, I can't believe Warren got
3 exactly catching on their pass.
Me 87 rushing yards, He had 100 yard total yard game.
Well, that's why I had zero interest in the Derrick Henry
Yards 'cause he can always, Yeah, well, that's why he's a 7,
but the? The Russian devs.
That's where you feel good, Pete.
I had some people. I had some people swayed my
stuff. Yeah, get up and run.
Go, go. Holy cow.
We could thread some fucking needles here guys.
Shake higher 9.5 we definitely just got.
Let's go. That was a 10 yard catch.
Get some Spears now Spears in the flat.
Oh. My 4th down we definitely just
got. So what do we need Spears on all
those. Well that one hit that's clear.
Holy count. Yeah, that clears.
There it is our three hit there. So the three picks here.
This one hit here we got this push or removing the Warren and
then getting a four leg here man.
Spears sets us up for real. Spears would be Spears.
OK, how many yards do we need Spears we just or 12/13/12 and a
half. Thirteen.
OK, but that can happen here. Steelers calling a timeout 4th
down. If they get it to him and he
converts, they got to go. It's 4th and seven.
If, if he gets left open out of the backfield, could be a big
moment, man. That was big.
Look at that. That's all of our that was one
of our halftime ones just hit. That was the first halftime one
we did 'cause we you, you immediately picked out the the
Berks and the Conquer and Warren, and we're just like,
let's just do those 3. Let's just.
Fire that off, guys. This isn't a Taco Bell bite I'll
spoil. It's not.
At this point, it's not a Taco. Bite There are there are nights
that are Taco Bell night. Yeah, we'll get back to the
Bell. We'll we'll know Bella.
We'll get back to the Bell. And we're going to get Steph
back on with Bella for the Bell. That's for sure.
All right, let's go. Let's go, Tasha.
Let's just get this first down and then we can worry about
that. Yeah, that's what we need.
Yeah, he's he's pass blocking anyway.
Oh, he got deflected. All right, well, we won three.
Oh, no way. Yes, holy shit, we got. 4 more
downs for him to check it down. Oh, he's saying deflected.
Oh, they're saying it's tipped. They're saying it's.
No. I think we're gonna get a hold.
Deontay was calling for DeAndre Hopkins calling for.
It's a hold. Yeah, it's a hold.
It's a hold. It's not past appearance.
It doesn't matter. Oh, my God.
That's right.
Joey Porter, This is insane. What do we hit if we hit Spears?
If we get 13 Spears yards, what do we need for the five for
1000? The third one down?
No, the third one down. Levis, where's Levis's yards at?
That one? Oh my God.
So he still needs like 40 yards, But if we get a if we get Spears
getting absolutely loose. Yeah, we'll we'll get the three,
the three right above it. We'll get for with with just 13
yards. Spears.
He's open. Here's Oh well, we need yards
too. If you complete something like
that. I'll tell you right now.
Levis does not want it checked out right.
No, he doesn't. No, no shooting.
But he's for us. For us.
Just one time for us, How many do the Titans have?
Any timeouts? One of the things we don't want
to happen is the Titans to score too much time 'cause we don't
want to get an Allen Robinson catch, right?
Is that? I guess that doesn't matter
cause a Warren catch would be cool.
Robinson's not going to catch anything.
Yeah. Pierce.
Pierce.
Oh, all right. Man yards, we'll take the yards,
'cause he Levis is getting close to the five picker.
What's that five pick at? How how many was that?
37. And we just got 20.
So if we get the 13 for Spears, I think we're really close at
this point. Yeah.
We just need the Spears part. He's up to 245.
Oh wow. Yeah.
He's. So he's gonna get there if
Spears gets there. So we just need the Spears
yards. My God. 13 Spears Yards.
And he and we cleared 2. New two more.
We already have three. We have 3.
We have two locked in for sure. Pete's five likely.
But those are unders that could. Theoretically lose and two more
if Spears gets. There, we'll have 5 potentially,
Yeah. Come on.
Come on, Spears. Leak, leak, leak out.
Yeah. All right.
Let's take this yards, this yards.
That helps our gets out of bounds too.
That's nice. That helps our one league,
honestly. We played them.
Shortens the more Spears is in
play. I know I agree with that.
I like that call. We're starting to I I I just
wanted him to get like Levis wants to Chuck from here but now
it's going to start tightening up the dump off is coming.
Let Spears cook. Come on, man.
Look at this guys. We're over there on Levis.
It's just Levis. Yeah, just the Spears part.
What yard line are they on? We're we're running out of
field. Get Spears 24.
Come on, get him. Oh, he's he's out there.
No pass block. Oh, oh, you got to throw it to
him. Somebody get in his ear and say
every play they're leaving the back open.
He just, he got the 13 and got out of bounds.
You got to take that. There's 16 seconds left.
He almost threw an interception because he never stopped looking
at Spears. I swear.
I mean, you got to take that background and he gets up field
and he gets out of bounds. What you need.
They're not guarding the sideline.
Why are you throwing in the middle of the field like that's
crazy. That's a rookie mistake, man.
Gotta get Spears involved. Every vet knows.
That why are you throwing like that's going to be a tackle in
the middle of the field. You're going to have one shot at
the end zone once you get spiked like take the out.
So there's your out. There's your out jig.
All right. We need, we need the touchdown
here because we ran out of we ran.
Out of field. Shit.
Yeah. Not great, Bob, man.
Hitting the Levis over too. I know this one, man.
Hitting the IT. I like that.
The right doing Levis Hyje Spears.
Reception was for -8 yards. Seriously.
And. Well, all right, let's go.
Spears. What?
Come on. Get Spears involved.
We got two cracks at it. Two cracks.
Leak, Buddy. Leak.
Nope. He's blocking.
Oh, and that's it. That's it.
It was a good sweat.
All right, well, we hit that four leg that we started.
He had the flag on the dropped interception.
Yeah, we ended up having a pretty profitable night because
we had what was the four leg for?
That was, that was one of our starts.
That's for it would have been for 1000, I think.
But one's a push. No, it's 750.
It'd be 750. Yep, 750.
And then the other one that was going to be what, the three went
down to half. Oh, we got to do a, we got to do
a randomizer. We got to pick a winner.
Yeah, Here we go. Yeah, we got to give give away
money. Wait, so hang on.
I want to just do the accounting because I always forget how many
halftime ones did we do. What's up?
We'll grab those like halftime. We can grab those after this.
I'll. I'll grab them for you.
We did I think $450 ones. Pat is my guess.
I think we did 4. I'm just removing some
duplicates and we are good. What do we have?
Wheel of names? Who's it going to be?
How many, How many spins are we doing?
Just one man, $200. I mean, how many shuffles?
How many shuffles? Oh, that that we can discuss.
Why isn't this copying over here?
Here we go. All right.
Do as many as Deante Johnson's fantasy points from tonight.
You guys are really good to see how the sausage gets made.
Because I I have to. It just my OCD won't let me do
this without the ship chasing logo in here.
Yeah, sure. 16 for Burks, Kevin suggests.
Yeah, let's do 16 for Burks. That's a good one.
That's a good answer. All right, 16, 16 Yeah,
16345678910111213141516. Who's it going to be?
Luke big shots Luke big shots Luke.
Big shots, Luke, you love to. See if you're in the shot.
Luke Big shots. Luke Big shots.
That is the underdog name there. Let's Luke Big shots.
Luke Banker, AKA Mark sell the team on Twitter.
Congratulations, Mark. You have won.
No. Mark Sell the team.
I think he's a Raiders fan. He's a Raiders fan.
That's the Raiders fan. Yeah.
Yeah, he deserved it. Congrats, man.
That's. Yeah.
Yeah, that's right. He picked me up for a for a
rough week. Mark Sell the team is his
Twitter handle. I love it for you.
I mean that he's one, Like, I don't know how long Luke's been
on Twitter, but, like, that's a commitment.
That's right. Well, yeah, very nice.
It's a, it's a, it's a bummer, man.
One more Warren reception dropping that five leg down from
a 20X to a 10X definitely stings, but still that is very
profitable for the pick up. The even numbers on receptions
is something that we've kind of been drawn to when we already
like it because it allows this, you know.
Yeah, Yes. Worked out.
Yeah, pretty nicely. This was, this was what I would
call like a very not like clean sweat, right.
Like I didn't even realize that that one with the five leg I had
just. Worked.
I thought Derrick Henry buried it.
I honestly thought he had had more than 17 rush attempts.
It seemed like he was gonna cruise.
I was like, oh, he was that period in the rush attempts.
Yeah, I know. I didn't even think.
That's crazy. Some great calls.
Pat the the early sack call and Gretch you that was your both of
your guys's respective flag plants.
Gretch said he was going to flee the country of Deante Johnson
and and Pat pounded the table for Levis sacks.
So those were both beautiful calls, and I was like I was the
one floating the Henry and the Allen Robinson.
Lowers and I was like these aren't clean but they but you
know ball, you know ball, you ball.
When you win unders by 1/2 by 1/2 of a unit you know you know
ball. Like, you know that that's how
you play the Under. Yeah.
Oh, my goodness. What a night.
All right, dudes. I appreciate you all.
It sounds like Traylon Burks is gonna be OK.
So that would have been a huge buzzkill.
It still fucking sucks, man. That guy is so good at football
and just can't stay healthy. I know.
It's so fucking brutal. I appreciate all of you.
And God damn it, Sean, with these goddamn super chats, man.
Even with a $25 super chat, this guy gets his fucking moneys
worth. I'll tell you what this guy gets
going. e-mail. Hang on.
I wanna ask you one more question about this.
I wanna ask you more question about this.
Okay this is. Like, this is the kind of shit
that I would never entertain on Twitter.
I would never get in this debate.
I would never get it on Discord. But somehow on YouTube, what?
What is Tuba Hubbard for? You nailed it.
Nailed it. OK, All right, now I'm right
back in. Do you want me to write it down?
Yeah, let's go. Well, no, I don't want to write
it down, 'cause I think, I think we have a different
interpretation of the scale as part of it.
But I I think this might help. Illuminate Can we?
Can we? Agree.
Can we agree on this that we all show our scores and it's a walk
off score with no debate because I need to go to bed.
Oh sure, I do like that. I love that.
I don't. I need to find Cuba Hubbard and
it's Cuba Hubbard now plus points going.
I'm just going to show fingers because I don't have.
I don't have I don't have anything to I don't have a pen
all right. I'm but I'm just I'm going to
tell. I'm going to give one hit.
I'm going with a decimal. I'm using a decimal scoring for
this one. What did you do 7?
That's point what I did 706.5.