Hello everyone, and welcome to a special week 6 edition of in
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Back in if it's Austinette. It's stared to our crystal ball.
Close your eyes, you know all your entries are going to lose
anyway. Yeah, that's fair.
This is a Deuce Vant show. It's.
Anti cabal. It's anti the best ball thought
leader. I'm obviously lying to some
degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys.
It's the most disgusting thing you can make.
But man, hey, Davis, welcome to the show to everyone joining
here live. We're still waiting for Pat
Crane, Patty, millions. I don't know if Rico Douddle had
too good of a game last night that he feels like he doesn't
need to show up to these anymore.
Well, but did he? Because he did score some
points. But Rico Douddle was one DAC
heads up. Play away from Hunter Lupke
starting in Week 6 against Detroit for the Dallas Football
Cowboys. That was an ugly fumble at the
end of the game last night. Rivo didn't watch Rico Dattle.
It was I think 3rd and goal from the one yard line and he takes a
half back dive up the middle, tries to do the thing where he
dives over the line of scrimmage and just gets blown up.
Football squirts out Dak. Luckily that's actually, that's
actually one of the fumbles. I think you could see a a
reasonable coaching staff saying that it's not.
Yeah. That it's not his fault,
apparently. Apparently my mic is on the
wrong. My mic is on the wrong.
I fixed it. There you go.
Yeah. Sounds good.
I actually agree with that Davis, because you you got to go
for the touchdown there like fumbling there actually isn't
that bad compared to a normal situation because the field goal
doesn't help you like not getting the touchdown doesn't
help you. So it's it's not a great play,
but I don't think it's like a benchable fumble given the game
situation. I mean, Hunter, Hunter Lupke
would have scored on that play without having to have jumped
like he would have just he would have just powered through.
I, I, I really, I really do believe this, by the way, like
Lupke set up that play with the what was it like second and 13
or something on the screen? Like the the Lupke thing, dude.
I mean it's like Zeke. He's there, He's there.
Use Jack, I think. I mean, he's a pretty good
player out there for them, yeah. The issue is, is that Rico
Dowdell is not even Jordan Mason.
Like Jordan Mason could go to 0 or Rico Dowdell could go to 0 at
any time. Why was Deuce Bond not active
last night? Was he injured or are they just
they were just done with it? Dude, I think it's it's over
him. You look at all of like his
efficiency stuff and like he was created as PF FS, worst running
back last year. This year is averaging like 2.9
yards per carry, like less than Zeke.
So I think they're done with that experiment.
I actually wonder in Dallas if we get the Dalvin Cook elevation
next week and see if he can maybe steal some of Zeke snaps
because dude, Zeke and Zeke and Vaughn, I think they've seen
enough of those guys. So I actually had Zeke on 2 main
event teams because you know, it's like main event and like
you're in the 11th round and you have one running back and it's
like, all right, well, we got to, we got to take Zeke and I
cut him for Beau Melton, which by the way, might come around
to, to getting there if Doug Damian Wicks gets bad.
Yeah, that could easily still get there.
I mean, Romeo Dobbs has left the team for I want to hear his side
of the story there, because that's a bizarre situation.
Duntavian Wicks has the worst hands in the league.
Like not even a bit like straight up has the worst hands
of any wide receiver in the league right now.
So Beau Melon good good back door into that mattering.
While we're while we're waiting for Karain, if Crane even shows
up, let's actually do the Romeo Dobbs Duntavian Wicks things
before we get into victory lapping bag, defending and panic
button, because I think they're pretty clear.
It's I actually don't believe the party line at all.
There, there is no shot that Romeo Dobbs walked into Matt
Lafleur's office and said, throw me the God damn ball.
I, I, I don't believe this. I don't believe this at all.
It's got to be a personal issue. It's got to be something that we
do not know about. Maybe maybe a mental health
thing for him. Maybe maybe like there's a an
illness in his family. I I just got to be honest, I do
not believe that Romeo Dobbs, a fifth round rookie out of
Nevada, walked in and said you got to get me the ball more that
that feels impossible. It's also because in the two
Jordan Love games, you know, the Malik Willis games, I'm kind of
willing to throw those out. They were running the ball so
much. The two Jordan Love games before
week five this year, you had 6 targets and eight targets in
those two games. So like I I don't know, you just
get 8 targets in a game and then you're going and complaining
about your role like that. That seems crazy.
So I'm I'm with you, Davis. I think there's something we
don't know here by like full on Galaxy brain idea was like, was
there some trade talks with like the Browns on Amari Amari Cooper
or yeah, or with Kansas City? I I don't know, like something
where he was being offered as a trade piece somewhere and that
got back to him that that's probably unlikely.
I think we would have probably heard something about that.
It also would be weird to trade Romeo Dobbs given his contract
situation and everything. So yeah, I think that I think
there is something we don't know here.
The last reports on Sunday we did get sounded somewhat
positive that like. Yeah, he said.
He's going to be back this week. We need him.
He's still a part of the team. All all that, all that stuff.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm with you there.
I don't. Yeah, I don't agree.
The the official story. The other thing I wanted to get
to while we're waiting for Pat. Still.
Yeah, still, still silence from Pat.
Not sure what he's up to, but did you get, I know the game
went really late last night. Did you get a chance to watch
that whole game? I guess it sounds like you did
because we're talking about the the.
I so I watched, I watched the first half and then I went to
bed. I was like enough, enough.
But I watched, I watched. I watched some of the stuff this
morning the the condensed game. OK, I asked because I wonder
what your thought is on the state of Russell Wilson's calf
injury after the. Game it's it's he's been
drinking the the what the recovery water is that what he
called it it's like it went it went from being you know,
possibly this might be career ending to you know, he's he's
he's he's he's doing some laps you know, he's ready he's ready
to maybe start pushing the sled a little bit.
I think see that the issue is, is the Steelers play the Raiders
this week. So I think his calf would have
been feeling better. But I think sadly, after this
week against the Raiders, he he might be on a downturn.
And and for a team like the Steelers, this is such an
underrated thing. But they're they're probably
going to get Jalen Warren back this week after he missed the
last two weeks and just not having Naji Harris out there is
is a pretty big win for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
I mean is Naji Harris, is he Zeke esque like my God there.
We go, here's the man. I, I, I said I wasn't going to
come on until we started talking about how Washtagi Harris was.
So here I am. And it's pretty bad, huh?
He's got he, he, he is like I would put him in the Trey Sermon
camp of being like, he's got to get 20 touches to get 15 points.
Man, it's it's really yeah. Najee Harris is just Trey Sermon
now. He's he's bad.
I mean, the fact that Cordell Patterson was instantly so much
better than him last week. And did you hear who did they
play two weeks ago? I'm blanking.
But there were some reports that the defenders on whatever team
they played two weeks ago, I'm blanking, were like shit talking
Najee Harris after the game and saying like, Oh yeah, they're
saying like, I think Cordo Patterson is number 8.
And they're like, yeah #8 runs way harder.
Like Naji's soft. Like they, they were just
talking him after the game about how much better seat that was
than him. So that's just, that's a tough
look for Naji. No, it's not good.
I think Naji's going to zero man.
I I think, I think if Jalen can get this through this PCL
injury, maybe even for your Jalen Warren bags, you would
actually prefer him to maybe sit one more week to just let the
need get 100% because I would actually anticipate assuming
Jalen Warren is close to healthy Tomlin's like Naji.
Thank you for your service. You've been a great you've been
a great Pittsburgh Steeler, but. Yeah, it's the final year of his
contract. Like, yeah, they had nothing,
nothing committed to him after this year that we did start this
in the Steelers topic, talking about the status of Russell
Wilson's calf injury. How healthy is his calf feeling
after the game last night? It's a little healthier than it
was, yeah, but I think it's still, it's not, it's not, you
know, fully recovered. It's, it's definitely, it's
probably a week or two. Away.
From from being healthy Depends. On but they get they get the
Raiders. Every.
Week though, well, yeah, but. It's going to be hurting this
week in practice. It's going to be hurting this
week. Yeah, yeah.
Dude, look at look at this run out.
Look at this run out that that Fields gets.
So he gets to play the Raiders, then he gets to play The Jets at
home. Does that scream 2 Rodgers pick
sixes or what? And then and then he gets to
play the Giants and then he gets to play the Giants before.
And then this is where this is where Russell Wilson's calf is
going to. I think he might start on the
road at the Commanders, home to the Ravens, home to the Browns
or Rd. road to the Browns. Those feel like if Fields is
still doing this, then that feels like Russell Wilson.
The problem with the matchup, like the Raiders, is that yes,
in theory it's an easy matchup. But if you lose to this version
of the Raiders team, that's like a quick trigger benching, I
think, like I think it could be over quickly if they lose this
game. That's potentially what we just
got with the Dolphins with with the Patriots and the Dolphins.
Like you're like, I was looking at that game like please lose
this game because if you lose this game, we're getting Drake.
It's so embarrassing. You can't lose this game.
And I think the Raiders would be the Steelers version of that.
Like you have to beat the Raiders.
Just have to or or we're getting or all of a sudden like you guys
won't believe it, but we they found this new cream and it
healed as a calf. It it's totally good, man.
Yeah, Russell Wilson, long time been a fake science guy.
Didn't you come out with some water that was supposed to?
That's what I was saying. You got the nano bubble water.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah. So that's very, yeah, very
curious over there in Pittsburgh.
Let's get to the the meat of today's show.
We're going to go back to the bag defending, victory lapping,
so on and so forth. For people who are new to the
show, the the quickest way to think about it, victory lapping.
Think of them as like a buy high player for your re draft
leagues. They're guys that have had good
performances and expect that to continue.
Think of bag defending sort of like a buy low.
This is someone who is probably ranked higher than they
performed so well this season, but there's still reasons for
optimism, even if they performed poorly so far.
And then panic button is kind of like a sell low or like maybe
even, you know, talking dropping these guys in your in your
redraft like depends on the context, obviously, but general
idea is these guys have been much worse than the preseason
expectations were. So we'll go ahead and start here
on the positive side with the victory lapping.
I'll give it to you first, David, because you were on time
today. I got to got to punish Pat a
little bit with the first first quarter suspension like Kian
Coleman for not showing up on time.
I'm. Going to be a reminder though,
I'm running for a touchdown as soon as you give me the ball.
Yeah, mine, mine, mine's very easy.
Chase Brown. Chase Brown is, is probably
going to finish as one of the 10 most valuable running backs in
fantasy this year. He is getting used in the red
zone. He's getting used in the passing
game. I believe he doesn't lead the
NFL in yards per carry anymore because Tyrone Tracy does after
after that game against the against the Seahawks.
But yeah, I mean, it's exactly my my exact thesis played out.
Zach Moss is a total ham and Egger who definitely is not
going anywhere, but it's well. He did get injured.
Did you see that then? He came, he came back, he came
back. Yeah, he's all right.
He came back, he came back in that drive, but they needed a 2
point conversion in the fourth quarter.
Chase Brown, they like, you know it just the, the coaches, it's
such a funny thing where coaches want to do things their way
until they're one and four and they have to win a game against
the Ravens and they're like, all right, well, Zach Moss, thank
you very much for your service, but you're what do you got 3
rushes yesterday? I think I I.
Don't think it was that low but I could be wrong.
I I stopped, I stopped looking at the at the rushing part of
the box score as as Jamar Chase's number just kept going
higher and higher. But I do know I do know that
here I can I can pull it up right now.
Brown got yeah. Brown got 12 rushes, 9 for Moss.
Brown got 3 targets in the passing game.
Moss got four and actually had one nice little run.
But yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty jover for Moss as as the
lead back and Chase Brown is is going to get there.
Which is not to say there will not be some lean weeks, because
there will be because they still don't trust him in pass
protection. But he's the, he's the dynamic
one there. Yeah.
Pat, I have a slightly different take than Davis here, but
curious your thoughts. Are you on board with this?
Yeah, I'm I agree. With the general sentiment for
sure, go ahead. Sorry, yeah.
The general sentiment I agree with because he looks great.
He looks really good. Like that's that's the biggest
thing is that Chase Brown was, you know, a day three running
back who was athletic, but like not that big, not like tiny, but
not like he kind of had this weird profile.
He's like sort of a college workhorse, but he didn't have
the size of an NFL workhorse. And he was athletic, but he
didn't really show much burst. Like a lot of the advanced stuff
didn't really like him as prospect.
And then he basically couldn't challenge Semaj P Ryan or Joe
Mixon for touches as a rookie. And so you're like the floor is
kind of low here of like who how good this dude is, but he looked
really good. Like he looks awesome.
So and that you know, the advanced numbers have been
really into him the whole way. I mean, even after this past
week. So the samples getting like less
small, but he has a 56% success rate in NFL next Gen. stuff,
which is the second highest in the league behind Chuba Hubbard.
He's got 42 rush hours over expected, which is pretty
strong, especially given that he hasn't had that much of a
workload. His his per attempt stuff is
pretty good as well. So I think that, you know, Chase
Brown, the biggest leap of faith was that this dude in my mind is
especially as his price rose was like, is this guy actually that
good to? Me, it wasn't even.
He looks really good. It's about can he score
touchdowns? Can't.
Will they give him the ball inside the five yard line when
they have Moss? And the answer is yes.
Well, I, I think the answer was no, unless he showed he could do
it. You know what I mean?
Like Moss was kind of penciled in for that stuff.
Like pretty, I think I thought that maybe he had flipped in the
training camp, but then to start the season, he, he hadn't.
So I think he had to, you know, show enough talent to kind of
like make the Bengals reconsider.
And he he did that like immediately.
I will say just a couple things I wanted to say.
One, I still think Zach Moss, so he had two inside the five
attempts this past week to one for Brown.
On the season. He has 64% of the inside the
five attempts. Brown has just 13%.
So I know Chase Brown does have a couple goal line targets, so
that actually undersells him a little bit.
He's got some more goal line work.
Had a really nice touchdown last week.
I I'm not sending Zach Moss to zero.
That is not the point. That is not the point of what
I'm doing. If this is one of these
backfields like the, it's, you know what it is, It's Shamir
Gibbs, David Montgomery, It's, it's the same.
It's the same thing. Yeah, like a disc much
discounted version of that I agree with.
Like I was targeting both these guys in basketball.
So I don't have like a dog in this fight of who I want to see
it. Honestly, I have both of them I
think at like 10 eleven, 12% something like that.
So I think they're both good. I did also want to say the Zach
Moss thing. I know you guys are saying game
back in the game. I missed that.
The ankle injury, just like watching it on the field.
Look, yeah, looks bad. And sometimes we see like Joe
Mixon returned after his ankle injury in Week 2 and has missed
3-4 weeks after that. Like he returned for one snap
and then is now been out for like 3-4 weeks.
So I think it's even more potentially bullish from a roll
angle that like maybe the Zack Moss ankle swells up a bunch,
you know, over the next couple days and he does miss some time.
There was a report this morning from Garifolo that said he
should be OK for Week 6. OK, got it.
He. Avoided serious injury and and
is believed to be OK as the team moves into week 6.
So that doesn't maybe he's maybe he's not OK for week 6, but he's
not. He might waste a week or
something like that. Yeah, I'm just always skeptical
of these like, oh, the ankle sprain is mild.
We heard it with Jonathan Taylor, we heard it with John
Mixon. But that that is true.
So it's it's probably on the more mild and as ankle sprains
go, but that could still be like a 12 week audition where Chase
Brown has a chance to prove himself in the pass protection
side of things. I'm skeptical he'll check the
boxes there. But like I think they actually
might give him a chance to do it over Like they're not playing
Trayvon Williams, They're not playing like I guess Chris Evans
isn't even around anymore. Like they're not they're not
playing any of these guys. So I do wonder if we get like a
couple workhorse Chase Brown games and if he can like hold up
OK in the past pro stuff, which I think is a huge if, but if he
can, like his ceiling could be even higher than we're bashing
it right now. So yeah, that that was just my
overall point. I agree with the the general
sentiment from Davis. I think it's a a pretty big win
for Chase Brown there. Let's move on to Pat's victory
lap player. Pat, who do you have this week?
I'm going to say Brian Thomas. Who?
Nice. Yeah, I was pretty interested in
Thomas since he was drafted, you know, first round wide receiver,
very athletic, really kind of, you know, a deep threat profile
with size. He'd been there'd been some red
flags that popped up for me where like, you know, is he can
be able to separate deep, but like talking to Connor Rogers
and stuff who'd been looking at the film was like, no, no, he'll
be all right. So I was like, OK, I think I'm
this isn't like a Keon Coleman thing where he, you know, just
going to have to body guys up. He might be able to to get loose
as well. And part of it for me too is
like we've seen the teammate correlation stuff where it's
like if Malik neighbors is him, then Brian Thomas scoring
1,000,000 touchdowns in that offense is probably going to be
pretty good too. And yeah, just drafting he, but
he was, I mean. He was kind of treated like the
second round wide receivers in drafts.
So I have a bunch of him from you know, that that 6-7 turn.
Now I didn't exclusively take him or anything.
I was taking lab with Conquie and you know, all those dudes
there, Deonte Johnson JSN like I mixed it up, but you know,
skipping the running backs in that range.
You know, if you could have taken a Camara, you know, there
that that's felt pretty bad for for most of the, the season so
far. But Thomas, I wrote up in the
walkthrough last week, I should have made him the cover boy.
I almost made the cover boy. And then I thought this spot's
too good for Dontavian Wicks. I can't how do I not do
Dontavian Wicks, you know, score a million points if you feel
bad. By the way, I had I scored 201
points in the spy with the Dontavian Wicks team.
So so, you know, I, I, yeah, it got me to, but I Brian Thomas
was the other guy that I thought about and I was going to do life
Life of Brian. You know, that's a fun title,
but he I was like, this is a really nice set up for him.
And when you have a guy who's already through four weeks on
par with the with the veterans and he's a freaking rookie.
He's a he's a guy that we were like, this dude's raw.
It's going to take him a while, like give this guy a little bit
are. You worried at all that the Evan
Ingram PPR scam is going to is going to influence I?
I am not, I am not. But I could see, I could see a
mid IQ fantasy analyst out there being like, well, keep in mind
that his production has spiked with Evan Ingram out of the
lineup. I could also see a mid IQ head
coach doing something bad and I'm afraid we have that.
Trevor Lawrence is, I think Trevor Lawrence is kind of just
doing his thing right now. Yeah.
Do you really, do you really think Press Taylor is is in
Trevor Lawrence's ear? Doesn't really seem.
No not really I I agree but I just man this Jags coaching
staff doesn't inspire a ton of confidence.
No, and that's on. That's honestly the biggest
reason why I didn't go with him as a cover boy because I was
like, I wrote up this whole thing about how they're not
passing on 1st down. They're like doing a bunch of
dumb stuff that seems to be limiting Lawrence, and Lawrence
is having to win in spite of them.
And I think that you could even say, you know, last week he kind
of won despite, you know, he has to pull it out at the end.
Like they're not really setting him up for success.
I think he'd lost nine straight games before this past win.
So yeah, it's it's definitely that is the real concern for me.
I'm less concerned about the Evan Ingram part of it, but just
like this offense being well designed and them featuring the
right guys is definitely a little bit worrisome.
But if we just like zoom out, I mean, you're talking about a
first round rookie who has 2.76 yards per outrun now and is
pretty clearly the number one on his team and also has a 12.98
out, which is deep. But not, he's not like 16.
Like he's not a one trick pony deep threat guy.
He's, he's operating like as a true #1 like a 12.9 A dot with
a, with a big target chair. It's like a classic alpha wide
receiver type of mark. So I'm, I'm pretty excited about
being able to get Thomas in the, the 6th 7th round.
I think especially, you know, as we we move down the stretch,
he's I think going to help team stand out a little bit.
I agree with this one and you guys know me my my brain is
pretty broken and I can only think in terms of Marvin
Harrison when I think about any rookie wide receiver.
But let's just say it, Brian Thomas has been a better wide
receiver than Marvin Harrison so far this year.
I think people think of this season as like neighbors Marvin
Harrison than everyone else. From a fantasy perspective, it's
actually been neighbors tier of his own, then Thomas and then
Jefferson below Brian Thomas, both in terms of PPR scoring.
He's slightly below him in targets for route run.
You talked about that E dot thing, Pat.
That's what I'm worried about with Marvin Harrison a little
bit. He's being used at this like
crazy high E naughty 15 averaged up the target like that's that's
really high compared to any other top wide receiver.
So again, this isn't to to bury Marvin Harrison.
He's at a fine start to his rookie year, but Brian Thomas
has, I've been that dude so far, really impressive 24% targets
for that run as a rookie with all that target competition,
considering like how many of those have been deep targets,
it's like a really, really valuable role he has there.
So yeah, I'm I'm all on board on.
This and he's good like he's he's he's drawing targets.
He's he's yeah, he looks great out there.
So, yeah, yeah. He's a fun guy to watch.
Davis any? Any final thoughts on Brian
Thomas there? Well, you, you did.
You did skip a rookie wide receiver who did score the only
touchdown for his Four and O team last week and is about to
see 9 1/2 targets tonight. It's just interesting.
Yeah, that is, that is curious. Yeah, well, we'll, we'll see on
Xavier Worthy. I just would like to see.
Unironic. We are actually about to get a
lot of information about him tonight.
Like if if they're brutal tonight and he kind of dont
avian Wicks. Is it not good?
Really not good across the board.
Not good for the best ball bags, but don't like with Xavier
worthy. I mean, think about like Tyree
Kill, like Tyree Kill started out as the hybrid running back
wide receiver for them. Like I, I guess he's such a, he
does something so well and then he also is like skinny and, you
know, unrefined in certain ways. He is kind of getting better
every week. Like I to be honest, to be
honest, I actually as like a Chiefs fan and a worthy guy.
I, I'm really not worried. I, I think he's probably pretty
up to it. And I think Andy Reid, like Andy
Reid kind of in a way, don't you feel like he's kind of a sicko?
Like he's like, you're going to make me win football games with
Juju Smith, Schuster, Nico Remigio and Xavier.
Morgan. Like Challenge, except he's kind
of like you. You have no idea how many
laterals and how many ring around the Rosies are about to
be called in this game against the.
Same. They're about to sign Sammy
Watkins and have Cream Hunt throw him a touchdown.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sammy Watkins is going to be
achieved by week nine. Yeah, I, I don't know if that's
been reported yet, but that is that's coming.
Yeah, I do have Noah Gray starting in a $2000 buy in
multiple, multiple. Yeah, I'm definitely having a
good season on. That later.
That's OK. OK, so I benched Mark Andrews in
two main events and honestly, I wasn't even mad that he got to 9
points. I was like, whatever, like, you
know, you know what? I were you mad when you saw that
that 8 coming up off the ground on that touchdown after Mark
Andrews got it down to the one because I was I was pretty mad
because because Charlie Golar, man, I've.
Already written those. I've already sent those bags to
the bank examiner. Bank Exam.
He's already written those off. Yeah, it's I mean he had less
you the third most points on his team out of the tight ends so.
Sam, do you regret carving out Mark Andrews and Travis Kelsey
from your Don't Draft Elite tight Ends take?
I don't remember doing that. I don't.
I don't think I did. That don't don't take elite
tight ends unless it's the very worst one.
You're calling Travis Kelsey the very.
Worst. No, I'm calling Mark Andrews the
very worst one. I'm giving you credit for also
having Kelsey in there who hasn't been good but at least
hasn't been angers. Yeah, yeah, let let me pull up
the the Andrews stuff. Yeah, it's.
It's not good. You don't even need, you don't
even need to pull it out because 00 wouldn't be that much of a
difference. Yeah. 11% Mark Andrews does not
does not feel great right now, that's for sure Yeah, that's no
God. OK I'll move on to mine.
We talked about this to to start the show.
Pat was not here so I'll I'll keep it quick so people don't
have to listen to us talk about Rico Daddles twice.
He's he's my victory lap. This one's pretty simple I
think. Like honestly, if you want to
read the case on Rico Daddell, just read Pat's article before
the season. I think that explains it pretty
well. The bet on Rico Datal was never
that he was some superior talent, it's just that he was
clearly, in my opinion, a much better talent than, you know,
close to 30 year old Ezekiel Elliott. 5 foot three, 170 LB
deuce spawn. You know that there's nobody
else in this roster that post any kind of threat for the early
down work. It did take a couple weeks.
They did try to mix in Zeke early on.
They tried out their other options because again, Rico
Dowdle is not some amazing talent.
But Fast forward to Week 5, he's got 70% of the rushing attempts,
50% of the snaps. He kind of, you know, got his
way to low end RB1 utilization status there with that type of
role. And he got 100 yards and a
touchdown, caught a pass downfield.
He actually has 20% targets for route run on the season and is
limited pass catching work. So I do think that's something
he can do a little bit more of than he showed so far.
But yeah, it's, again, I'm not lying to you guys and I'm not
saying that Rico Dattle is like some amazing running back.
Like on any other NFL team, I would not have been pumped about
drafting Rico Dattle, but. Zeke is at 0.
Dalvin Cook has not been activated from the practice
squad duspon they are already done with the experiment.
It's a clear. It's a clear win, clear, clear
win. Yeah.
Yeah, and it didn't feel good getting there.
Like I to me, it's sort of a reminder that like God, some
like fantasy football can be such a stressful game because
like Rico, I do think it's a clear win, but like, I thought
he was a clear loss like 3 weeks ago.
Like it's just like, God, this guy's not good.
There's. Been a lot.
Of often sucks there's. There's been a lot of It's so
Jover. We're so Barox, Yeah, like
Dulcavian Ricks. I've changed my mind four times
I think already and I'm currently at It's Jover but
looks. Pretty Jover, but did your tweet
about him not being able to use his hands?
It's been pretty good. Yeah.
It would have been nice to see him catch the ball.
That would have been fun. I was like, I was very all in on
Wix talking about him briefly, but I did I will say like in my
article, I'm talking to people. I did say multiple times like
you guys don't understand how bad this dude's hands have been.
Like this isn't like normal drops.
It's literally half of his targets on the season.
He's dropping, straight up dropping the ball like slipping
and doing weird things or like not coming out with contested
catches. Like please please fix this on
Davian Wicks. You're way too good of a route
runner to have this shitty of hands.
It doesn't. It doesn't make any sense.
What do you think of Christian Watson low advance rate?
Is Is Christian Watson the answer now?
I think I think Romeo Dobbs might be the answer.
Well, not he's getting suspended for personal reasons.
I guess it's just Jayden. Jayden was the answer.
Remember when we thought Jay there was too much target
competition for Jayden Ray to do anything?
That doesn't seem to be the case now.
No, they're the friends and family night snap counts.
Those are always something you really want to look very
powerful into when you're evaluating a player.
Let's move on to bag defending. I'll start with you here, Pat.
Who do you want to bag defend this week all?
Right well, so I've got to save up now there's reports that we
might get Drake may this week. OK, so I can't victory lap that
yet because he's and not very good when he's actually been on
the field for a hot 2nd and he probably won't be very good
going against the Texans. So they they have pretty decent
defense. So we're safe.
We're probably going to be back defending Drake May this time
next week. But for now, I'm going to bag
defend Jalen Polk, who almost scored a touchdown.
You know, foot comes down out of bounds.
Second, second time he's done that, by the way.
Yeah, he, he went to the Garrett Wilson School of of attention to
detail. It's it's not ideal.
But wait, can we talk about quickly how dumb that rule is
that if you're toe tapping on the sidelines, all you need to
get is your toe down, but if you're toe tapping the back the
end zone, you have to get your full heel down.
It's like a different rule for that the annoying.
No. No, not a great, not a great
rule. Well, you want to know a double
annoying thing about the rule is that if your hand lands first in
a way that obviously would help you secure the ball, you're out.
But if you just get your toes down and land your ass on the
ground because your toes were down first, it it, it's a catch.
It, it's a very, it's a very stupid rule.
It's a. It's a very down rule.
Yeah. But anyway, I have got a ton of
poll. He's been horrible this year.
He's got 0.58 yards per outrun. It's it's super jover.
Except if we get Drake may, I just think that breathing some
life into the offense here will happen.
I think pretty quickly because people you're seeing the stuff
of there's there are two camps on the Drake may thing and one
of the camps is that he's going to be really inconsistent and
get crushed behind this offensive line.
And that's true. But when he's not doing that,
there's going to be some life in the offense.
It's going to actually have some highs as opposed to just this
grinded out awful slog that we we got with Brissett.
So this was the idea here is that, you know, we were going to
get May early ish into the season and that his weapons
would actually benefit from his ability to make play.
So we haven't seen that yet, but I think we're going to see it
starting in Week 6. And so bag defending, drafting
his #1 receiver. I like that this was also mine
this week. I fully agree with this.
And also I have a ton of Polk, so it's probably a little bit of
cope in there as well. The other notes I'll add in is
the return of Kendrick Bourne, Although I do expect Bourne's
role to be bigger than it was in Week 5, the return of Bourne did
not impact Polk's route rate at all.
He was actually up to 97% route participation.
So, yeah, that was good to see. And then, yeah, just like a
percent may take, like my Jacoby percent take is if he could be
like a game manager, as like a backup quarterback on a team
with good weapons, he could be pretty good.
Like we've seen that the past couple years.
But this environment where the whole line is terrible, the wide
receivers are terrible and he has to try to go like hero ball
mode is not who Jacoby percent is.
And that sounds really obvious. But like I actually think some
of the limitations of the patriots weapons and online
could actually benefit from like the Yolo play style of Drake
May. He's going to make a ton of
mistakes. He'll probably make a ton of
sacks, but at least there can be some fun playmaking here.
Jacoby Brissett can just not get it done from the playmaking
aspect of things. So I am excited to see how that
unlocks the Patriots weapons. I think even Hunter Henry here,
someone I'm a little bit more excited about, just like a
little bit more scramble drill situation stuff with Drake Man
or said, or maybe he can get open for a couple more bigger
chunk plays. So yeah, I'm with Pat on this
one. Yeah.
You would trade interceptions and lost fumbles for some throws
that that produce fancy points. Like just like adding some
volatility. What includes negative outcomes
would still be like, so good for the skill players in this
offense. Like, it's just where they score
10 points against the Dolphins. Like you just can't like, score
20 and lose by 20. That's way better for us.
You know, don't don't lose by 7 and score 10 or whatever.
Yeah. The one thing I will say in Polk
is the whole offseason I was like, there's no way this can
fail. He's going to have a huge role.
The only way he can fail is if he's Jonathan Mingo.
And then I pull up the per route stats and I'm like, oh God, did
I just draft Jonathan Mingo 2 point O?
So I'm not calling him that yet. But I will say the the one
hesitation I have with this take is just like, besides the almost
TD there actually OK. He said two like almost huge
plays, which I think are skewing the stats.
It was for San Francisco. We had that sideline catch where
I think he got inbounds. They didn't call that complete
the almost touchdown here. So that that's skewing things.
Those two plays would make him look better, but he hasn't
looked great as an individual player.
He has 74 yards through five weeks.
That's that's not great, that's not great.
His his entire season long stat line 974 and one would be like a
pretty good week. So it's like not great, but but
hopefully we get Drake may added some value and and you know,
Dave, you've talked about like his Drake may did not have a
good online in in college. So I'm hoping, I'm hoping the
online stuff is not as dire for him as it has been for Berset.
Yeah. Yeah, that that that literally
like the it's like, well, maybe we have maybe we have bad habits
getting learned and maybe this is bad for Drake may long term,
but he's going to come firing like that's. 2025 Pats problem.
That's 2025 Pats problem 100. Percent, yeah, you you can find
a way to sell them in dynasty for like Shakur Sanders or
something. At that point, you'll you'll
figure out a way out. All right, Davis, unless you
have anything final words to say on the Polk stuff, who is your
bag defending player this week? You know, mine is actually kind
of related to the Brian Thomas junior.
I'm going to bag defend Roma Dunze because I think the
thesis, I think ultimately probably it's going to have
played out too slow to help our advance rates.
Like he might like we might already be.
It's the classic like, oh, my 10th place teams just moved to
6th place this week. But Caleb looks a lot better
now. Granted, the Carolina Panthers
are not an NFL caliber defense, but we have like multiple games
of him kind of stringing things together, figuring it out on the
run. The run game is better, which is
like such a you know, it's obviously what a ball number
would say, but just like a lot less 3rd and 10s second and 12
type situations. That is a huge help to a rookie
quarterback. Comet looks pretty good.
DJ Moore. I mean, I I got to say for
victory lapping, I think I was definitely right to be hammering
DJ Moore there like DJ Moore, just a great football player.
But Keenan is pretty clearly like 3032 year old wide receiver
with lower body injuries. Who and like Sam, people are
always in your mentions about this.
Like look how good he was last year.
So yeah, he was really good on a team that fired everyone, fired
everyone associated with the team.
They were they were so good that anyone like the Chargers fired
their their like lunch ladies because everyone.
Was. So bad.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's like he can't, I think he can still like
get open and do it, but he can't do it all game consistently.
You should have, you should have victory lap the Fat Keenan
narrative because that, that narrative is looking pretty
good, yeah. Yeah, maybe he really will.
Work for Conde Nast now. Yeah, the Keenan's, the Keenan's
stuff like it's one of those things where it's, so I I dove
deep into the pre snap motion stuff this past year and Keenan
was the guy who led the league in percentage of his yardage
receptions. That was from like schemed fast
motion usage, which is one of those data points were like,
there's not AI. Haven't looked at that for a
while. I can't say like I confidently
know how to interpret that. The other players on that list
are like Jaden Reed, Debo Samuel, like guys like that,
where I actually take it as a bullish indicator for Keenan.
Maybe it was just my bias. I was saying, like, this is
actually a pretty big red flag that the environment, the
coaching situation is completely changed.
Now. He's not on a Chargers team with
Justin Herbert, who gets the ball out on time and he's
surrounded. He's not surrounded by, you
know, Darius Davis and Quinton Johnson running outside routes
now. He's now on a team with like, DJ
Moore, Roma Dunze, a rookie quarterback who's not
necessarily known for like. Hitting, you know, guys on time
in the short area of the field. So yeah, I, I was just really
skeptical of the Keenan Allen. Like, oh, I, I totally
acknowledge he was on on pace last year for like 140 catches,
like 1000 something yards. I totally like got the bull
case, but I was just not buying that.
That was something that was sticky moving year over year.
But you know, we'll see this early for him.
I just want to say on Keenan, I just want us to to remember that
when he's going in the 15th round, is Quinn Ewers clear #1
next year that we should draft a little, you know?
Say that that I think I, I think I'll, I'll be in now.
Where do you have Quinn Ewers playing and is is he the
Cleveland quarterback I. Think he's I think he's the
Panthers quarterback. Quinn Ewers with Xavier Lee get
I. Think that's true?
That's true. They've got Tiante.
Yeah, you're right. It needs to be, it needs to be a
tear down. So so the the Browns probably is
the answer. They'll have Judy, so he'll
he'll he'll be there, although Judy might not really be on the
field. Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, back to him reviving in a in a worse charger
situation. But it looks pretty over.
It looks pretty. Over yeah, back to the Rome side
of things. I I do agree with Davis there
also probably my bias. I drafted a shit ton of Rome, so
you can definitely point to that.
But yeah, I think, I think the bears are figuring this thing
out. I actually thought your
walkthrough article last week, Pat, was really interesting
where I just kind of wanted to write off Caleb Williams is like
dog shit through the 1st 4 weeks.
And you pulled up some interesting stuff about how he's
shown like consistent, steady improvement over the first four
weeks of the season. And that obviously continued in
Week 5. Hyper accurate with all these
short area stuff, which I think is is pretty bullish.
Yeah, so let's see him against a real defense.
Who do the Bears play next week? Oh, the Jags.
OK, so that's not a real defense.
That should be good. But they get the Jags and then
Commanders in back-to-back weeks.
I guess commanders have been playing a little bit better on
defense a little. Bit better but.
No, no they haven't. Well.
The the buddy the Cleveland Browns do not count.
No result. Yeah, that's true, Browns.
The Cardinals. They played better against the
Cardinals. The the results against Kyler
Murray count like I don't know. They they actually don't know
either do. They OK, they beat the 49ers
last week. Kyler was pretty fun.
They beat the 49ers because Kyler Shanahan was like born
without. I think he just like maybe
doesn't have adrenaline in his brain or something.
I It's hard for me to say what his deal is because he's clearly
a football genius, but like he loses games his team has
absolutely no business losing. Can we talk about Zach Taylor,
who's got whatever this is plus a million?
He he played for a 56 yard field goal like it was a chip shot
like it was a chip. Shot well to be.
It was the most hourly. Yeah, to be fair, I've never
seen a red zone, a field goal over 55 yards missed on red zone
this year. They're they have 100% accuracy.
So I got I caught him. On red zone prime time, he goes,
he gets it closer. I'm on red zone baby.
That was crazy. I I could not believe that
they're running up the gut like not even attempting a pass there
like they were on like the I was.
So I literally was just like, and I've been rooting for the
Bengals. I had this lineup I mentioned
was a was a Bengals double stack, which is why I was
especially aggrieved with this. I grow the ball, but they just,
you know, they wouldn't do it. So I went.
When he lined up with that kick, I was like, miss it.
Miss this kick. I want to see the.
Ravens, I want to see the Ravens punish them just like they did.
So God, that was that was that's worse than I think anything
Shanahan's done, but very much in that camp.
Yeah, giving Shanahan a tiny bit of credit.
The kicker? Jake Moody was ruled out.
With an he played he played for a 19 yard field goal that the
punter kicked at the end of the second-half.
Yeah, but I, I guess I was thinking like for a punter who
like doesn't kick field goals, isn't there a big difference
between like a 20 yard field goal and like a 40 yard field
goal? What what I'm saying is that he
played for a field goal in an opportunity when he had.
A oh oh. I'm saying, I'm saying he had
multiple opportunities to play for touchdowns and he didn't do
it. They also like threw a couple
times. There was a third and three I
think where they have this really dumb pretty drop back
pass called. It's like you don't have a
kicker, like just go like run the ball.
Now, I also had Jordan Mason on the slap.
So, you know, I'm extremely biased, but I just run the ball
and you can run it again on 4th. You know, if Shanahan hates to
go for it on 4th, but like, and maybe that's what maybe he knew
if you got a yard, you'd have to go for it on on 4th and do
something sharp. But yeah, Shanahan needs someone
to just like, I don't even need to like go to like a a course on
this. Like this one part of your games
is so square. Yeah, it's frustrating.
Because he's such a genius, you know, he could like, why?
Why is there a thing that like, we know better than Shanahan?
This guy knows football like better than 99% of humans on
Earth. And yet, like, we can sit here
and watch the game and be like, that's, that's really stupid.
These guys need like I think it's Amiko that's that has this
tweet of like all the Shanahan coaching tree guys are like
genius schemers and play callers, but they need a
coaching assistant that just handles like in game decision
making on 4th down and clock management like just the little
things like that. Even Andy Reid, I think.
Has this? He's gotten better, too.
He's gotten better. He makes, he makes.
Some boneheaded mistakes in this area as well.
He got better. He got better because he got
gifted God's greatest son like he like that's true.
Andy Reid did. Andy Reid said, oh, I have the
literal greatest dude to ever do this.
He just converts these for fun, so I might as well.
And he still, he still doesn't always do it.
He's kicked multiple field goals this year inside the one yard
line with Pat as his quarterback.
Yeah, although the guy playing Patrick Mahomes is not a great
actor this year. I like.
I'd like Patrick Mahomes to return from whatever.
Sabbatical. He's on.
I've been workshopping this take I I and I bet I'll be able to
sell Sam on this one. The worst thing to happen to
Patrick? Career.
Long term, like him breaking every record, all of Brady's
records, everything was having to win the way he won last year.
He, he basically has PTSD. He's like, you have no idea.
The dark places I had to go to win a Super Bowl with Sky Moore
is my wide receiver 2 and Justin Watson is my wide receiver 3.
Like he had to go so dark and he can't, he can't get himself out
of it. You know what it is?
Yeah, it's the Brady career, but you, he started in the middle.
His first years were 2007, you know, and he's just going nuts.
It's amazing. And then he's going now it's
like 2001, like like what we've returned to, you know, the Dion
branch years. It's just, I don't know, I would
like us to go back to the high flying era as soon as possible.
I think we're about to have the the 2019 era Brady where the
team trades a second round pick for Mohamed Sanu.
Now, I'm not sure if that's going to be, you know, Romeo
Dobbs or, or who who that's going to.
Be. It's going to be Darius.
Darius you. Could be the Mohamed Sanu a real
life NFL. You know what is second round
actually for Mohamed Sanu? It's Mooney.
Bill Belichick would trade a
second off pick. Darnell Mooney.
Darnell Mooney, Yeah, I mean rocket shit.
See, that's what I'm saying. Sam is hoping the Patriots
trade. It's like a round pick for a
man. 1st with that, what we use our first round picks on, just
just trade a first round pick with Don on May.
Come on man, you said on May. Well, besides that one, there's
God, yeah. Yeah.
It's been a rough stretch. Matt Jones or Darnell Mooney?
Which one? Oh, come on.
It's not even close. It's not even close.
God, Matt Jones. It's always funny when I see him
on the Jack on the Jaguar sideline.
I'm like, oh, that's. It's so.
Funny these days it is fun. Anyways, that that was a great
draft class. Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Mac
Jones, Zach Wilson, just a bunch a bunch of good quarterbacks
there from that generational class.
Let's move on to our panic button players from this week.
I'm going to go first. I got I got my bag of defense
stolen from me with Julian Polk. So I'm going to go first here
and panic button mine. And I'll be clear in how I
clarify this, but my panic button this week that I finally
came to the realization of is Dijon and Breece were not good.
Top six or seven picks stole. My yeah.
And this is far from a full on panic like these guys.
If we're redrafting today I'm probably taking them in the mid
second, maybe even 1-2 turn. I'd have to actually map it out.
But this is not like oh they suck they're busts.
No, I just pivoted at the end of the season to trying to go for
hero running back builds, taking Bijan and Breece over Chase,
Jefferson, Tyree kill a Monra. I didn't have like crazily
skewed exposures but I ended up with 12% Breeze, 14% Dijon, and
then just 8% of Jefferson, 8% of Chase, 5% of a Monra, 5% of
Tyree kill. So not horrible, but certainly
would I would I trade 15% Jefferson.
You know what I make that swap with Jefferson and those running
backs 100% like that. That is clear cut right now.
And I think also hammering the hero running back builds that
got me off of like I wasn't taking as much James Cook,
Kenneth Walker, guys like that as I was early in the draft
season because I was like, oh, I got my hero RB build with the
Dijon and Priest. Don't need to take the plunge on
those guys. So I think that's hurt me a bit
as well. Just just in terms of like the
role in utilization. I think what's hurting these
guys is I thought that Bruce and Bijan really had a chance to
separate as like the very few backs in NFL.
They were getting these crazy workhorse roles.
And the roles have just been like fine.
Like you look at utilization or on fantasy points, Bijan is 11th
amongst running backs, Bruce is 7th.
But that doesn't even really tell the full story because
they're just like, frankly, like this sounds like a hot take.
But like just strictly looking at their roles, like what
they're doing with Dijon, Atlanta is not that different
from what they're doing with like DeAndre Swift in Chicago
with Tony Pollard in Tennessee. Like he just doesn't have this
like crazy work horse role above what these other middling
talents have. And I think that's that's
frankly hurting him. There's been some weird stuff.
Big plays, call back by penalty, I think just touchdowns not
going his way that are going to change for both of these guys.
But yeah, man, like I I think I think it was a mistake to like
always take him above Chase and Jefferson in the first round
this year. But curious what you guys think
of that if you think I'm overreacting too much.
To I think you're, I think you're overreacting to Bijon
when actually if you wanted to have rose colored glasses, you
could say Kirk Cousins kind of coming back is super bullish.
Bijon was playing on a short week, very clearly was injured
in my mind, like very clearly the way they were using him.
So he only got used in outside zone runs.
And you, why would you do that, Windhorst?
You don't want to get piled up on, you don't want him having to
push through the pile. You want to get him into space,
see if he can run a straight line and make something happen.
Alger handled all this stuff in between the tackles.
Now if he if if he has 18 carries for 62 yards and four
receptions for 17 yards against the Panthers this week, then
yes, full on panic button. It's not coming back.
It's Jover we and Bijan Robinson becomes the Kyle Pitts of Adrian
Peterson. It's like very, very quickly,
Reese. It took it took you a while to
get to that line that was a. Lot of it's a good it was worth.
It was worth the walk, but I got to.
I got there, you got there. Now, Reese, I got to be honest,
I don't really see a way back because the issue now is they
play so slow. They play so fucking slow.
They're not dedicated to getting him the PPR scam stuff the way
that Zach Wilson and Tim Boyle and these guys were dedicated to
getting him the PPR scam stuff. And you have the specter of what
he might just not get carries from the three yard line anymore
if if Braylon can do it so. So I, I think there definitely
is a way back for Breece. My thinking is this almost has
to be the low point of the season.
Now, does that mean he's going to end up being worth like the
one O 6 or the one O 5? No, it does not mean that.
But I do think that this is probably as bad as we're going
to feel because and to me, the way back is the PPR scam stuff
he's had. His targets have been 68554.
He's been involved consistently in the passing game.
We also did see Braylon Allen get stuffed on a couple short
yardage runs. Last week has not been like when
you go to the advanced numbers, Braylon Allen's been like
totally whatever. He's he hasn't been now the eye
test. I'm like this dude looks really
good, but like I don't I, I wonder if we're just like liking
his running style to some extent because he hasn't.
I I find that a lot of the times with running backs, by the way,
where sometimes I watch him and I'm like, oh shit, this guy,
this guy's killing it and his advanced stuff will be like,
fine. I I find that I find that quite
often. Yeah, so I'm, I, I'm this isn't
negative on Braylon Allen. I think Braylon Allen's good and
I think he's going to be a thorn in Bruce Hall's side.
But there's there was especially after Bruce Hall is like
combined for like 5 points in two weeks.
You're like, is this dude even like they're starting running
back now? Like what's going on?
And I think he's still going to be very clearly like the high
upside way to play that backfield the rest of the way.
But this kind of level of boom bust is just should not be in
the cards for what we paid. And you don't have to talk about
it like, well, he's going to get used a lot of the receiving back
like that sounds cool if we drafted him in the third round,
but it's pretty awful to have paid low on A5 four.
So it's it's definitely, I think I am panicking on briefs, but I
guess I'm just saying like, I don't think it's completely
over. I think in part they scored,
they scored nine points against Denver and then 17 points
against the Vikings. And to Davis's point, they play
super slow. You know, Rogers has never been
for whatever reason, you know, he's seems like a very confident
guy, but he Denver pushes his advantage.
He's the better quarterback on the field in almost every game
he's played. And yet they're trying to limit
the number of drives that each team gets for some reason.
I've never understood it, but I think it's turning the offense.
Pretty clearly, yeah, I think what it is in the Rogers point
not defending this is like smart or but like what he thinks is
that his advantage is being able to call audible to the line of
scrimmage, call different plays, call out different hot routes,
the wide receivers because he thinks he has the ability to
read a defense so precisely he. Thinks if he tells all ten of
his team mates what to do on a play, it can't possibly go
wrong. Exactly.
Yeah, Well, he should watch some film for like, the last, you
know, his entire career. Like what doesn't you know?
They don't, they don't have, they don't have a film room
inside of his ayahuasca cave. Yeah, it's just, it's just
frustrating. So I'm like, dude, if you, if
you played fast, like you know, you might get an extra like .75
drives per game and like that probably is meaningfully
impacting your, your career winnings.
Yeah, someone pointed out that the target advantage is going
down and stuff. Yeah, the target, the targets
are decreasing. But you know, we're looking at a
dude who's completely dropped off in scoring.
You know, he had 1.8, you know, standard fantasy points 2 weeks
ago. So to get 5 targets in that
game, I think it's still like a little bit of a, a reason to not
to say, hey, we shouldn't like completely panic about this
dude. His role has not evaporated.
He's just he's not been running great, not been making plays on
a, on an offense that's also really struggling.
So who do they play this week? I think what we could really use
is a nice. Bills, Bills.
That's yeah, it's not ideal, but it's not.
It's not horrible, it's not bad, it's not horrible.
Yeah. Monday night on that one, we get
two more prime time games for Anderson Rodgers over the next
couple weeks, Monday night against the Bills and then
Sunday night the week after that against the Steelers.
So that'll be some fun Twitter live tweeting.
Either way, either either if an Aaron Rodgers is good or
terrible, hopefully terrible. That'll certainly be fun to
watch in prime time. Let's move on here to your panic
button player, Davis. I had a couple, I had a couple
different ones here that I that I thought I'm gonna actually
gonna do. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do a
facetious one that I think is is directionally informative in
terms that it tells us we don't know shit.
My panic button is gonna be Justin Jefferson in a very
facetious way, because the thing we were worried about with
Justin Jefferson, his quarterback plays can be
terrible. How could he possibly get there?
But it's so illustrative of the fact that we don't know
anything. The reason that Justin Jefferson
is only like the third best wide receiver in fantasy thus far has
nothing to do with his quarterback play, has nothing to
do with his ability, has nothing to do with Kevin O'Connell.
It's that his team is simply too good.
They have trailed for three minutes and 34 seconds of the
entire season through five games.
That is the second best record. Ever since the NFL has existed,
that is the second best time that a team is as Trail I and I
can't even remember when it would have been.
So you're trying to say that you were too Right on Justin
Jefferson. No, I'm saying, I'm saying that.
I'm saying, well, obviously I was right, but I, I'm going to,
I'm going to end up not I, I think in the end I'm going to
end up getting 1400 yards and 11 touchdowns and what should have
been an 1800 yard 14 touchdown season probably because I mean,
it's Week 5. The defense is too fucking good,
yeah. Darnell hasn't topped 28 pass
attempts in a game yet. Like we're it, it's just, it's
just, you know, it is what it is.
And that that seems like the direction that we're heading.
Yeah, this was kind of my take the past couple weeks.
Like now we have the hamstring injury to Nico and obviously the
Rashid Rice injury happened, but just purely because of that, I
was like barely tie breaking to these other guys over Jefferson,
like CD Lamb, Nico, Rashid Rice, like just just barely same tier.
So I didn't have that similar take of like, man, this this
Vikings defense doesn't seem like a fluke to me of how well
they play your your hope. If you're someone like me, is
that Brian Flores has been in this position many times before.
Brian Flores been a defensive coordinator for like 25 years.
And he kind of always gets found out over the course of the year.
He's very aggressive. He's like insanely aggressive.
And you know, you, you can only play that way for, for.
Yeah. Someone literally just said in
the chat kind of basically what happens is his blitz patterns
sort of get figured out and then it ends up being it ends up
being. Because if you're blitzing, but
the quarterback knows what the blitz is and knows who's
unguarded, that that's like how you get, that's how you get
picked apart. Yeah, yeah.
It's interesting though, because Rodgers, maybe that's just to
Rodgers has fallen off thing, but like traditionally you don't
really blitz Rodgers because he's pretty good at figuring
that out and and, you know, punishing.
Jets offensive line is terrible. Because the Broncos blitzed him
with success in Week 4. So I actually expected the
Flores to do the same and I'm pulling it up.
It looks like it worked well. Rogers was sixth worst against
the blitz in week 5 and he was blitzed on 21 of his drop backs,
which is the most of any quarterback last week.
So they they had, they showed 0. Respect for him 0.
Respect. Maybe it makes more sense to
blitz Rogers now because he can't move.
Like it's, it's a lot. It's a lot easier.
It's a lot easier to blitz a guy who can't just like, sidestep
the blitz. He's also not dialed in with
with Adams or you know, he he doesn't have like he Lazard is
probably. His.
Yeah, Wilson is the safety valve for sure, but they just don't
have the same connection that he did with Adams, which is
obviously crazy high bar, but. Yeah, yeah, surely Garrett
Wilson's and Stanley, inefficient yards for target.
It's it's got to rebound eventually.
It can't. You can't do this his whole
career. Hey, who cares man?
Give him 30 targets a game and we're good.
Yeah, that's true if he gets 22 targets.
It's not going to matter. Yeah, it's not. 4 yards.
Target's fine. Yeah, great.
God, that's insane. Also in that game random side
now but Jefferson I think he was only charted with like 14
targets but he drew like 567 DPI's I forget how he.
Was he was he was called the defender guarding him was called
for six penalties in the game against Insane.
Wow, wow. Yeah.
I forget how that shows him the stat sheet.
I feel like it as a target. So does it show a?
Target again it it it doesn't. It doesn't.
It doesn't, and it's a no choice nothing.
OK. Oh, I thought you were doing a
bit. No, it's just it's white.
No, no. I mean in terms of targets,
yeah. It doesn't.
If you're targeted on a play that you get DPI, it doesn't
count as a target. Yeah.
That's right, 4. 14 targets and five penalties.
I mean, obviously he is the best.
Like, I'm not, I'm not. You know, it's so funny.
Like people are so beholden to the moment.
Like Liam sent the tweet about Jamar Chase this morning.
And it's like you, sometimes you do have to zoom out on the
chart. There's a reason that Jamar
Chase has more 3 for 30s in his career now than Justin Jefferson
will ever have. Partly it's that his coach is an
idiot. Zach Taylor is the worst.
Come on man. All right, final, final panic
button here. Pat, who you got?
This one's probably overdue, but you know, if everyone got mad at
me when I took Rashad White a few weeks because I wasn't
drafting him and I was tempted to take Travis ETN, who's tank
big sweet back up now who I'm not drafting, who I who I didn't
draft at all, but Jerry Judy, I was drafting.
I did draft. I drafted.
I saw Jerry Judy's. Name and I clicked it.
I clicked Jerry Judy Guys and Sacrilegious the entire time in
our chat was like, Jerry Judy is not even a football player.
This guy gives up as soon as he steps out on the field.
Basically, imagine Steve Smith's attitude towards Jerry Judy.
That's that's what sacrilegious was weighing in very regularly
on Jerry Judy just completely correct.
And I still drafted him. I still drafted Jerry Judy guys
doesn't feel good. Pulled up his stat line from
last week. He had three targets, one
reception, 16 yards. This man has 1.09 yards per
outrun, somehow outperforming Amari Cooper.
Yeah, I was gonna say in the context of a Deshaun Watson LED
offense that's actually pretty good.
I'm I'm bullish on. Here, yeah, Amari Cooper's only
at 11 yards per outrun. So, you know, this can double as
a panic button on on Amari, I guess, but I think Amari will
give us a couple big weeks and and Jerry Judy just just won't.
He just won't. That was.
That's just a total. Just wait until just, yeah, wait
until Judy gets in shape, dude, just like he's been on the
treadmill. Like wait until he gets
conditioned. I Kareem, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't give up so easily. On Jerry Judy this did you see
there's supposed to be a route runner.
Remember what what happened? Like, buddy, I, I've been out,
I've been out on Jerry Judy, like from the moment I watched
him play in the NFL. He he just is one of those guys
who has he's got no dog. I mean really like I think he's
probably very good, but he just like the the dog levels are.
You know what he is? He's the sky more of Jacoby
Myers. No, that's not how it's done.
He's the. He's the.
He's like the sky more of. He wasn't drafted high enough,
yeah, but his game is. But his game's very much dico.
Admires. Yeah, it's like he's the he's.
The Sky Moore of CD Lambs. Sky Moore.
Sky Moore of CD Lambs. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, exactly it. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I actually I wanted, I
almost did tank Dallas my panic button, but I wanted to address
this real quick. I'm actually not really
panicking about Tank Dill because I think the CJ Stroud
plays like AC minus NFL quarterback and they win anyways
and Stephane Diggs leads the team and targets.
It's like it just doesn't feel that tenable to keep giving
Diggs all these targets. And for like, isn't Stroud just
going to start to play better? Yeah, I.
I think so. I think so.
I don't think it's panic button on Dell.
I will say the amount of times I had to get in arguments with
people this offseason who want to do the contrarian like, oh,
tank Tank Dell is actually the better wide receiver here than
Nico Collins that let's be. More than Steph Diggs, I had
always had such a hard time with flipping digs.
I never got that. Like I went back because I
thought I was missing something because everyone's like, oh, he
was like out projecting him when they're on the field.
He was better. Like I I look back at the
numbers and like roll the whole article about it and like that
just wasn't true. Like Nick Pawns was like clearly
out targeting. Not clearly, but he was out
targeting Tank Dell when they're on the field together last year.
He's also 7 inches taller, faster, 40 lbs heavier.
Like come on, Like what was that contrarian take?
Can we, can we admit that that was a terrible contrarian?
Take it doesn't doesn't feel like a great one now does it?
No. It.
Was a bad. I was in on Dell for sure, but I
was definitely. That guy for a little while.
I was in on Dell. I'm not saying I was out on
Dell, I was just I would just get triggered again.
I just create these like straw men in my head did.
Dell have the title. Did Dell?
Can we can we bring on, can we bring on an injury expert and
just ask them if it's good to not break your leg?
I feel like breaking your leg is maybe worse than.
I feel like weirdly. Believe.
The injury, actually, it's always tell me it's good when
you break your leg. Like they told me it was good
when tell me Pollard broke his leg.
Don't worry, when Mark Andrews broke his leg, I've heard enough
of this. Like it seems like breaking your
leg is actually pretty bad. That's, that's like what I'm
starting to think, and I'm not a doctor, but it does seem like
the guys who have broken their legs, who were not as explosive
returning from their broken leg. But that's just my you know.
Yeah, again, we're not doctors. Yeah, we're not doctors, so we
can't really say it with confidence, but.
I would prefer as a layman, purely as a layman, the guys who
haven't broken their legs I think at this point.
Yeah, I do actually like the the injury doctors.
I think there's a lot of them that do good work.
I just feel like sometimes like this is not a shot at them.
Like we just. Don't.
This is not a shot at them. I'm I'm purely no.
Joking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're clearly joking around. Just like an earnest point
though, is like we clearly do not have all the information and
all these injuries and like I feel like sometimes I just don't
bake in like the downside risk of like something unknown, bad
that we don't know about the injury.
Like that just seems to happen way more than we want to admit.
Like this season's been extreme in that.
But like the Kyle Pitts MCL injury, for instance, like
clearly was not just like a run-of-the-mill MCL injury, but
like the risk. Honestly, Sam, that injury might
not have like even happens. Like he's totally healthy now.
Like I don't think like, did the MCL affect him at all?
Like he's healthy now. Yeah, I don't know.
He's. Got the lowest open score in the
league? I'm not sure.
I don't know, I mean, he might have always just been bad, but
I'm just saying like in general, like fuck, I guess I'm just
tired of getting burned on these return from injury guys that
just turned the dust. It's so.
I really wish, yeah. Because, you know, Mark Andrews
has essentially been benched for Charlie Kohler, and it feels
like he he, it feels like him breaking his leg might have
contributed to that, you know? Hasn't been benched for Charlie
Cole. OK, just let's let's fictional.
Just been outperformed by him, but not fictional.
Universe, he hasn't been best. He's just on the bench while
Kohler catches sick, plays down the sideline and then scores
touchdowns, let's say. Hypothetically, Andrews was the
one who caught that long Kolor catch and run and the touchdown.
So he has like 22 PPR points or whatever is the we're so back
like spiking it in the nerds face or or is it like Kyle Pitts
where Kyle Pitts just had what do you have 7 for 78 or
something and everyone's like. Yeah.
What, what I like I, I tend to think I, I probably like can
like with Pitts. I'm like, I'm not playing Pitts
this week against the Panthers. Like I mean, you start him where
you have him, but like, he's not back.
No, it took again, we don't have to turn this into a Kyle Pitts
thing because people just probably hate my Kyle Pitts
takes at this point. But it took him 55 that's
attempts and Kyle Pitts still had less targets than Ray Ray
McLeod, less targets than Darnell Mooney, that that's been
the case the whole season. So.
He had like a 12% target chair with yeah, what was his target
chair? It was like 13, like no joke
like. 13 was it really? Wow.
Yeah, OK, sorry, 15% which on the season it's at 14%.
So yeah, it wasn't any different than it's been all season.
It was just Falcons threw a ton, which, yeah, but anyways.
And here on a positive note, on Kyle Pitts, we got.
To get It didn't break his leg. Pitts did not break his leg it.
Didn't break his leg. And that's foolish.
He just. Wants to like it.
All right guys, we'll be back next week for another in season
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for the ship cast this Thursday. Any announcements on guests or
anything like that? Are you guys still figuring it
out? Still figuring it out, but yeah,
ship cast Thursday. Watch along.
We had. I mean, it's pretty epic.
This last one was about as bad a beat as I could.
Imagine it was really, really bad.
Yeah, really. Bad.
But the beautiful part of it is that many, and I know not
everyone, and I apologize if you're not one of the people who
who benefited, but many people who did tail us on it.
We got the the Bucky rushing line 1 yard lower than us and of
course, we lost by 1 yard. So the silver lining was that
many of the the ship cast viewers actually binged while
they watched us tilt our faces off, which is a pretty sweet
spot to be in. You know, you're like, I've got
this winning thickum. And this is the very
entertaining as these guys who gave who gave me the pics are
losing. So we'll be back the sequel,
hopefully with better results for us next, next Thursday, this
Thursday. Awesome.
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