1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,920 Hello everyone, and welcome to a special week 6 edition of in 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,640 season ADP chasing. No, we did not forget about you 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,600 guys. We just completely forgot to 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,280 announce the show was starting late, but we're here as we are 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,120 every Monday, bag defending, victory lapping, panicking. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,880 It's the premiere in season basketball show to sweat your 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,040 bags. Let's do it. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,120 ADP chasing is for when you watch ship chasing you go these 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,760 guys are just football guys. And the targets for outrun 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,280 leagues, that's going to be really nice, actually. 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,640 Back in if it's Austinette. It's stared to our crystal ball. 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,880 Close your eyes, you know all your entries are going to lose 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,960 anyway. Yeah, that's fair. 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,320 This is a Deuce Vant show. It's. 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,160 Anti cabal. It's anti the best ball thought 16 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:47,320 leader. I'm obviously lying to some 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,920 degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys. 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,280 It's the most disgusting thing you can make. 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:01:03,120 But man, hey, Davis, welcome to the show to everyone joining 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,120 here live. We're still waiting for Pat 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,560 Crane, Patty, millions. I don't know if Rico Douddle had 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,280 too good of a game last night that he feels like he doesn't 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,600 need to show up to these anymore. 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,320 Well, but did he? Because he did score some 25 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:18,760 points. But Rico Douddle was one DAC 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,760 heads up. Play away from Hunter Lupke 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,120 starting in Week 6 against Detroit for the Dallas Football 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Cowboys. That was an ugly fumble at the 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,560 end of the game last night. Rivo didn't watch Rico Dattle. 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,320 It was I think 3rd and goal from the one yard line and he takes a 31 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:38,320 half back dive up the middle, tries to do the thing where he 32 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:41,760 dives over the line of scrimmage and just gets blown up. 33 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:47,080 Football squirts out Dak. Luckily that's actually, that's 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,360 actually one of the fumbles. I think you could see a a 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,800 reasonable coaching staff saying that it's not. 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,920 Yeah. That it's not his fault, 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,560 apparently. Apparently my mic is on the 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:58,760 wrong. My mic is on the wrong. 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,360 I fixed it. There you go. 40 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Yeah. Sounds good. 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,760 I actually agree with that Davis, because you you got to go 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,280 for the touchdown there like fumbling there actually isn't 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,520 that bad compared to a normal situation because the field goal 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,960 doesn't help you like not getting the touchdown doesn't 45 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,000 help you. So it's it's not a great play, 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,920 but I don't think it's like a benchable fumble given the game 47 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:22,800 situation. I mean, Hunter, Hunter Lupke 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,080 would have scored on that play without having to have jumped 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,120 like he would have just he would have just powered through. 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,560 I, I, I really, I really do believe this, by the way, like 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,320 Lupke set up that play with the what was it like second and 13 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,720 or something on the screen? Like the the Lupke thing, dude. 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,960 I mean it's like Zeke. He's there, He's there. 54 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Use Jack, I think. I mean, he's a pretty good 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,360 player out there for them, yeah. The issue is, is that Rico 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,080 Dowdell is not even Jordan Mason. 57 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,080 Like Jordan Mason could go to 0 or Rico Dowdell could go to 0 at 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,800 any time. Why was Deuce Bond not active 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,680 last night? Was he injured or are they just 60 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,600 they were just done with it? Dude, I think it's it's over 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,640 him. You look at all of like his 62 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:08,240 efficiency stuff and like he was created as PF FS, worst running 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,240 back last year. This year is averaging like 2.9 64 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,000 yards per carry, like less than Zeke. 65 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,280 So I think they're done with that experiment. 66 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,160 I actually wonder in Dallas if we get the Dalvin Cook elevation 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,200 next week and see if he can maybe steal some of Zeke snaps 68 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,960 because dude, Zeke and Zeke and Vaughn, I think they've seen 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:31,240 enough of those guys. So I actually had Zeke on 2 main 70 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,600 event teams because you know, it's like main event and like 71 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,920 you're in the 11th round and you have one running back and it's 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,960 like, all right, well, we got to, we got to take Zeke and I 73 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,960 cut him for Beau Melton, which by the way, might come around 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,440 to, to getting there if Doug Damian Wicks gets bad. 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,360 Yeah, that could easily still get there. 76 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:57,800 I mean, Romeo Dobbs has left the team for I want to hear his side 77 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,800 of the story there, because that's a bizarre situation. 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Duntavian Wicks has the worst hands in the league. 79 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,920 Like not even a bit like straight up has the worst hands 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,720 of any wide receiver in the league right now. 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,880 So Beau Melon good good back door into that mattering. 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,800 While we're while we're waiting for Karain, if Crane even shows 83 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,480 up, let's actually do the Romeo Dobbs Duntavian Wicks things 84 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,480 before we get into victory lapping bag, defending and panic 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,000 button, because I think they're pretty clear. 86 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,600 It's I actually don't believe the party line at all. 87 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,640 There, there is no shot that Romeo Dobbs walked into Matt 88 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,400 Lafleur's office and said, throw me the God damn ball. 89 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,000 I, I, I don't believe this. I don't believe this at all. 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,920 It's got to be a personal issue. It's got to be something that we 91 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,520 do not know about. Maybe maybe a mental health 92 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,200 thing for him. Maybe maybe like there's a an 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,840 illness in his family. I I just got to be honest, I do 94 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:56,080 not believe that Romeo Dobbs, a fifth round rookie out of 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Nevada, walked in and said you got to get me the ball more that 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,960 that feels impossible. It's also because in the two 97 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,880 Jordan Love games, you know, the Malik Willis games, I'm kind of 98 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,040 willing to throw those out. They were running the ball so 99 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,800 much. The two Jordan Love games before 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,840 week five this year, you had 6 targets and eight targets in 101 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:17,160 those two games. So like I I don't know, you just 102 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,200 get 8 targets in a game and then you're going and complaining 103 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,240 about your role like that. That seems crazy. 104 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,280 So I'm I'm with you, Davis. I think there's something we 105 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:29,560 don't know here by like full on Galaxy brain idea was like, was 106 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,560 there some trade talks with like the Browns on Amari Amari Cooper 107 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,120 or yeah, or with Kansas City? I I don't know, like something 108 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,360 where he was being offered as a trade piece somewhere and that 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,560 got back to him that that's probably unlikely. 110 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,880 I think we would have probably heard something about that. 111 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,920 It also would be weird to trade Romeo Dobbs given his contract 112 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,480 situation and everything. So yeah, I think that I think 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,360 there is something we don't know here. 114 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,560 The last reports on Sunday we did get sounded somewhat 115 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,160 positive that like. Yeah, he said. 116 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:01,200 He's going to be back this week. We need him. 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,120 He's still a part of the team. All all that, all that stuff. 118 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,480 Yeah, but yeah, I'm with you there. 119 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,320 I don't. Yeah, I don't agree. 120 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,960 The the official story. The other thing I wanted to get 121 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,640 to while we're waiting for Pat. Still. 122 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,400 Yeah, still, still silence from Pat. 123 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,200 Not sure what he's up to, but did you get, I know the game 124 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,520 went really late last night. Did you get a chance to watch 125 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,920 that whole game? I guess it sounds like you did 126 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:28,880 because we're talking about the the. 127 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,560 I so I watched, I watched the first half and then I went to 128 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,680 bed. I was like enough, enough. 129 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,080 But I watched, I watched. I watched some of the stuff this 130 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,960 morning the the condensed game. OK, I asked because I wonder 131 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,880 what your thought is on the state of Russell Wilson's calf 132 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,880 injury after the. Game it's it's he's been 133 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,920 drinking the the what the recovery water is that what he 134 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,520 called it it's like it went it went from being you know, 135 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,520 possibly this might be career ending to you know, he's he's 136 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,480 he's he's he's doing some laps you know, he's ready he's ready 137 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,160 to maybe start pushing the sled a little bit. 138 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,600 I think see that the issue is, is the Steelers play the Raiders 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,240 this week. So I think his calf would have 140 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,800 been feeling better. But I think sadly, after this 141 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,960 week against the Raiders, he he might be on a downturn. 142 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,040 And and for a team like the Steelers, this is such an 143 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,600 underrated thing. But they're they're probably 144 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,960 going to get Jalen Warren back this week after he missed the 145 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:32,080 last two weeks and just not having Naji Harris out there is 146 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,400 is a pretty big win for the Pittsburgh Steelers. 147 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,200 I mean is Naji Harris, is he Zeke esque like my God there. 148 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,320 We go, here's the man. I, I, I said I wasn't going to 149 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,880 come on until we started talking about how Washtagi Harris was. 150 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,800 So here I am. And it's pretty bad, huh? 151 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,240 He's got he, he, he is like I would put him in the Trey Sermon 152 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,240 camp of being like, he's got to get 20 touches to get 15 points. 153 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,040 Man, it's it's really yeah. Najee Harris is just Trey Sermon 154 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,320 now. He's he's bad. 155 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,640 I mean, the fact that Cordell Patterson was instantly so much 156 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,000 better than him last week. And did you hear who did they 157 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,600 play two weeks ago? I'm blanking. 158 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,760 But there were some reports that the defenders on whatever team 159 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,880 they played two weeks ago, I'm blanking, were like shit talking 160 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,120 Najee Harris after the game and saying like, Oh yeah, they're 161 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,320 saying like, I think Cordo Patterson is number 8. 162 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,600 And they're like, yeah #8 runs way harder. 163 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Like Naji's soft. Like they, they were just 164 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,159 talking him after the game about how much better seat that was 165 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:34,960 than him. So that's just, that's a tough 166 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,640 look for Naji. No, it's not good. 167 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,159 I think Naji's going to zero man. 168 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:43,000 I I think, I think if Jalen can get this through this PCL 169 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 injury, maybe even for your Jalen Warren bags, you would 170 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,840 actually prefer him to maybe sit one more week to just let the 171 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,800 need get 100% because I would actually anticipate assuming 172 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,520 Jalen Warren is close to healthy Tomlin's like Naji. 173 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,520 Thank you for your service. You've been a great you've been 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,640 a great Pittsburgh Steeler, but. Yeah, it's the final year of his 175 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,960 contract. Like, yeah, they had nothing, 176 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,640 nothing committed to him after this year that we did start this 177 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,280 in the Steelers topic, talking about the status of Russell 178 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Wilson's calf injury. How healthy is his calf feeling 179 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,760 after the game last night? It's a little healthier than it 180 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,960 was, yeah, but I think it's still, it's not, it's not, you 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,920 know, fully recovered. It's, it's definitely, it's 182 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,640 probably a week or two. Away. 183 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,600 From from being healthy Depends. On but they get they get the 184 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:33,320 Raiders. Every. 185 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:37,920 Week though, well, yeah, but. It's going to be hurting this 186 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,720 week in practice. It's going to be hurting this 187 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,120 week. Yeah, yeah. 188 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Dude, look at look at this run out. 189 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Look at this run out that that Fields gets. 190 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,240 So he gets to play the Raiders, then he gets to play The Jets at 191 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,880 home. Does that scream 2 Rodgers pick 192 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,760 sixes or what? And then and then he gets to 193 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,640 play the Giants and then he gets to play the Giants before. 194 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,320 And then this is where this is where Russell Wilson's calf is 195 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,720 going to. I think he might start on the 196 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,160 road at the Commanders, home to the Ravens, home to the Browns 197 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,320 or Rd. road to the Browns. Those feel like if Fields is 198 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,080 still doing this, then that feels like Russell Wilson. 199 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,400 The problem with the matchup, like the Raiders, is that yes, 200 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,200 in theory it's an easy matchup. But if you lose to this version 201 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,120 of the Raiders team, that's like a quick trigger benching, I 202 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,640 think, like I think it could be over quickly if they lose this 203 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,880 game. That's potentially what we just 204 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,080 got with the Dolphins with with the Patriots and the Dolphins. 205 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,760 Like you're like, I was looking at that game like please lose 206 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,160 this game because if you lose this game, we're getting Drake. 207 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,440 It's so embarrassing. You can't lose this game. 208 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,520 And I think the Raiders would be the Steelers version of that. 209 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,960 Like you have to beat the Raiders. 210 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,080 Just have to or or we're getting or all of a sudden like you guys 211 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,240 won't believe it, but we they found this new cream and it 212 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,360 healed as a calf. It it's totally good, man. 213 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,280 Yeah, Russell Wilson, long time been a fake science guy. 214 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,320 Didn't you come out with some water that was supposed to? 215 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,080 That's what I was saying. You got the nano bubble water. 216 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:13,400 Yeah, Yeah, yeah. So that's very, yeah, very 217 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,040 curious over there in Pittsburgh. 218 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,760 Let's get to the the meat of today's show. 219 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,920 We're going to go back to the bag defending, victory lapping, 220 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,200 so on and so forth. For people who are new to the 221 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,760 show, the the quickest way to think about it, victory lapping. 222 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,400 Think of them as like a buy high player for your re draft 223 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,600 leagues. They're guys that have had good 224 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,400 performances and expect that to continue. 225 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,800 Think of bag defending sort of like a buy low. 226 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,360 This is someone who is probably ranked higher than they 227 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,400 performed so well this season, but there's still reasons for 228 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,560 optimism, even if they performed poorly so far. 229 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,560 And then panic button is kind of like a sell low or like maybe 230 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:57,400 even, you know, talking dropping these guys in your in your 231 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,800 redraft like depends on the context, obviously, but general 232 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,720 idea is these guys have been much worse than the preseason 233 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,480 expectations were. So we'll go ahead and start here 234 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,440 on the positive side with the victory lapping. 235 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,600 I'll give it to you first, David, because you were on time 236 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,240 today. I got to got to punish Pat a 237 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,280 little bit with the first first quarter suspension like Kian 238 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Coleman for not showing up on time. 239 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:22,760 I'm. Going to be a reminder though, 240 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,800 I'm running for a touchdown as soon as you give me the ball. 241 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,560 Yeah, mine, mine, mine's very easy. 242 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:33,080 Chase Brown. Chase Brown is, is probably 243 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,760 going to finish as one of the 10 most valuable running backs in 244 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,600 fantasy this year. He is getting used in the red 245 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,600 zone. He's getting used in the passing 246 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,320 game. I believe he doesn't lead the 247 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,280 NFL in yards per carry anymore because Tyrone Tracy does after 248 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,160 after that game against the against the Seahawks. 249 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,160 But yeah, I mean, it's exactly my my exact thesis played out. 250 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,520 Zach Moss is a total ham and Egger who definitely is not 251 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,080 going anywhere, but it's well. He did get injured. 252 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,280 Did you see that then? He came, he came back, he came 253 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,160 back. Yeah, he's all right. 254 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,680 He came back, he came back in that drive, but they needed a 2 255 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:10,320 point conversion in the fourth quarter. 256 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,520 Chase Brown, they like, you know it just the, the coaches, it's 257 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,560 such a funny thing where coaches want to do things their way 258 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,440 until they're one and four and they have to win a game against 259 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,000 the Ravens and they're like, all right, well, Zach Moss, thank 260 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,800 you very much for your service, but you're what do you got 3 261 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,360 rushes yesterday? I think I I. 262 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,800 Don't think it was that low but I could be wrong. 263 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,960 I I stopped, I stopped looking at the at the rushing part of 264 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,200 the box score as as Jamar Chase's number just kept going 265 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,800 higher and higher. But I do know I do know that 266 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,360 here I can I can pull it up right now. 267 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Brown got yeah. Brown got 12 rushes, 9 for Moss. 268 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,440 Brown got 3 targets in the passing game. 269 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,360 Moss got four and actually had one nice little run. 270 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,880 But yeah, it's it's pretty it's pretty jover for Moss as as the 271 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,440 lead back and Chase Brown is is going to get there. 272 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,320 Which is not to say there will not be some lean weeks, because 273 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,360 there will be because they still don't trust him in pass 274 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,800 protection. But he's the, he's the dynamic 275 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,240 one there. Yeah. 276 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:17,880 Pat, I have a slightly different take than Davis here, but 277 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,400 curious your thoughts. Are you on board with this? 278 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,160 Yeah, I'm I agree. With the general sentiment for 279 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,320 sure, go ahead. Sorry, yeah. 280 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,520 The general sentiment I agree with because he looks great. 281 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,120 He looks really good. Like that's that's the biggest 282 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:36,160 thing is that Chase Brown was, you know, a day three running 283 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:41,320 back who was athletic, but like not that big, not like tiny, but 284 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,440 not like he kind of had this weird profile. 285 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,680 He's like sort of a college workhorse, but he didn't have 286 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,120 the size of an NFL workhorse. And he was athletic, but he 287 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,920 didn't really show much burst. Like a lot of the advanced stuff 288 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,400 didn't really like him as prospect. 289 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,720 And then he basically couldn't challenge Semaj P Ryan or Joe 290 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,000 Mixon for touches as a rookie. And so you're like the floor is 291 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,640 kind of low here of like who how good this dude is, but he looked 292 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,680 really good. Like he looks awesome. 293 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,640 So and that you know, the advanced numbers have been 294 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,400 really into him the whole way. I mean, even after this past 295 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,000 week. So the samples getting like less 296 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,880 small, but he has a 56% success rate in NFL next Gen. stuff, 297 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,240 which is the second highest in the league behind Chuba Hubbard. 298 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,840 He's got 42 rush hours over expected, which is pretty 299 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,240 strong, especially given that he hasn't had that much of a 300 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,680 workload. His his per attempt stuff is 301 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,080 pretty good as well. So I think that, you know, Chase 302 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,120 Brown, the biggest leap of faith was that this dude in my mind is 303 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,080 especially as his price rose was like, is this guy actually that 304 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,080 good to? Me, it wasn't even. 305 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,720 He looks really good. It's about can he score 306 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,840 touchdowns? Can't. 307 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,320 Will they give him the ball inside the five yard line when 308 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,360 they have Moss? And the answer is yes. 309 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,920 Well, I, I think the answer was no, unless he showed he could do 310 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:08,600 it. You know what I mean? 311 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,320 Like Moss was kind of penciled in for that stuff. 312 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,000 Like pretty, I think I thought that maybe he had flipped in the 313 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,080 training camp, but then to start the season, he, he hadn't. 314 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,840 So I think he had to, you know, show enough talent to kind of 315 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,840 like make the Bengals reconsider. 316 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,760 And he he did that like immediately. 317 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,520 I will say just a couple things I wanted to say. 318 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,520 One, I still think Zach Moss, so he had two inside the five 319 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,400 attempts this past week to one for Brown. 320 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,800 On the season. He has 64% of the inside the 321 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,440 five attempts. Brown has just 13%. 322 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,120 So I know Chase Brown does have a couple goal line targets, so 323 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,120 that actually undersells him a little bit. 324 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,840 He's got some more goal line work. 325 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,640 Had a really nice touchdown last week. 326 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,040 I I'm not sending Zach Moss to zero. 327 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,400 That is not the point. That is not the point of what 328 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,160 I'm doing. If this is one of these 329 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,840 backfields like the, it's, you know what it is, It's Shamir 330 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,200 Gibbs, David Montgomery, It's, it's the same. 331 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,240 It's the same thing. Yeah, like a disc much 332 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,440 discounted version of that I agree with. 333 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,200 Like I was targeting both these guys in basketball. 334 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,839 So I don't have like a dog in this fight of who I want to see 335 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:14,960 it. Honestly, I have both of them I 336 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,040 think at like 10 eleven, 12% something like that. 337 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,200 So I think they're both good. I did also want to say the Zach 338 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,480 Moss thing. I know you guys are saying game 339 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,880 back in the game. I missed that. 340 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,760 The ankle injury, just like watching it on the field. 341 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,280 Look, yeah, looks bad. And sometimes we see like Joe 342 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,480 Mixon returned after his ankle injury in Week 2 and has missed 343 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,800 3-4 weeks after that. Like he returned for one snap 344 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,080 and then is now been out for like 3-4 weeks. 345 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,080 So I think it's even more potentially bullish from a roll 346 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,840 angle that like maybe the Zack Moss ankle swells up a bunch, 347 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,800 you know, over the next couple days and he does miss some time. 348 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,080 There was a report this morning from Garifolo that said he 349 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:59,600 should be OK for Week 6. OK, got it. 350 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,960 He. Avoided serious injury and and 351 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,080 is believed to be OK as the team moves into week 6. 352 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,840 So that doesn't maybe he's maybe he's not OK for week 6, but he's 353 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,560 not. He might waste a week or 354 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,080 something like that. Yeah, I'm just always skeptical 355 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,120 of these like, oh, the ankle sprain is mild. 356 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,040 We heard it with Jonathan Taylor, we heard it with John 357 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,720 Mixon. But that that is true. 358 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:22,320 So it's it's probably on the more mild and as ankle sprains 359 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,360 go, but that could still be like a 12 week audition where Chase 360 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,840 Brown has a chance to prove himself in the pass protection 361 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,080 side of things. I'm skeptical he'll check the 362 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,880 boxes there. But like I think they actually 363 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:39,160 might give him a chance to do it over Like they're not playing 364 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,240 Trayvon Williams, They're not playing like I guess Chris Evans 365 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,040 isn't even around anymore. Like they're not they're not 366 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,880 playing any of these guys. So I do wonder if we get like a 367 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,000 couple workhorse Chase Brown games and if he can like hold up 368 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,640 OK in the past pro stuff, which I think is a huge if, but if he 369 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,280 can, like his ceiling could be even higher than we're bashing 370 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,640 it right now. So yeah, that that was just my 371 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,160 overall point. I agree with the the general 372 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,680 sentiment from Davis. I think it's a a pretty big win 373 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:10,800 for Chase Brown there. Let's move on to Pat's victory 374 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,640 lap player. Pat, who do you have this week? 375 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,560 I'm going to say Brian Thomas. Who? 376 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Nice. Yeah, I was pretty interested in 377 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:27,160 Thomas since he was drafted, you know, first round wide receiver, 378 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:33,400 very athletic, really kind of, you know, a deep threat profile 379 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,040 with size. He'd been there'd been some red 380 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,440 flags that popped up for me where like, you know, is he can 381 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,440 be able to separate deep, but like talking to Connor Rogers 382 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,920 and stuff who'd been looking at the film was like, no, no, he'll 383 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,880 be all right. So I was like, OK, I think I'm 384 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,440 this isn't like a Keon Coleman thing where he, you know, just 385 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,320 going to have to body guys up. He might be able to to get loose 386 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,440 as well. And part of it for me too is 387 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,320 like we've seen the teammate correlation stuff where it's 388 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,360 like if Malik neighbors is him, then Brian Thomas scoring 389 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:04,440 1,000,000 touchdowns in that offense is probably going to be 390 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,680 pretty good too. And yeah, just drafting he, but 391 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,000 he was, I mean. He was kind of treated like the 392 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,680 second round wide receivers in drafts. 393 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,600 So I have a bunch of him from you know, that that 6-7 turn. 394 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,440 Now I didn't exclusively take him or anything. 395 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,280 I was taking lab with Conquie and you know, all those dudes 396 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,040 there, Deonte Johnson JSN like I mixed it up, but you know, 397 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,120 skipping the running backs in that range. 398 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,600 You know, if you could have taken a Camara, you know, there 399 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,120 that that's felt pretty bad for for most of the, the season so 400 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:41,680 far. But Thomas, I wrote up in the 401 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,600 walkthrough last week, I should have made him the cover boy. 402 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,600 I almost made the cover boy. And then I thought this spot's 403 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,200 too good for Dontavian Wicks. I can't how do I not do 404 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,160 Dontavian Wicks, you know, score a million points if you feel 405 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,680 bad. By the way, I had I scored 201 406 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,760 points in the spy with the Dontavian Wicks team. 407 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:05,680 So so, you know, I, I, yeah, it got me to, but I Brian Thomas 408 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,760 was the other guy that I thought about and I was going to do life 409 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,480 Life of Brian. You know, that's a fun title, 410 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,160 but he I was like, this is a really nice set up for him. 411 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:19,680 And when you have a guy who's already through four weeks on 412 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,000 par with the with the veterans and he's a freaking rookie. 413 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,680 He's a he's a guy that we were like, this dude's raw. 414 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,800 It's going to take him a while, like give this guy a little bit 415 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,600 are. You worried at all that the Evan 416 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,880 Ingram PPR scam is going to is going to influence I? 417 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,640 I am not, I am not. But I could see, I could see a 418 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,880 mid IQ fantasy analyst out there being like, well, keep in mind 419 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,760 that his production has spiked with Evan Ingram out of the 420 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,120 lineup. I could also see a mid IQ head 421 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:48,160 coach doing something bad and I'm afraid we have that. 422 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,280 Trevor Lawrence is, I think Trevor Lawrence is kind of just 423 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,720 doing his thing right now. Yeah. 424 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,000 Do you really, do you really think Press Taylor is is in 425 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,200 Trevor Lawrence's ear? Doesn't really seem. 426 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,760 No not really I I agree but I just man this Jags coaching 427 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,480 staff doesn't inspire a ton of confidence. 428 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,120 No, and that's on. That's honestly the biggest 429 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:05,960 reason why I didn't go with him as a cover boy because I was 430 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,760 like, I wrote up this whole thing about how they're not 431 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,920 passing on 1st down. They're like doing a bunch of 432 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,680 dumb stuff that seems to be limiting Lawrence, and Lawrence 433 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,040 is having to win in spite of them. 434 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,360 And I think that you could even say, you know, last week he kind 435 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:19,040 of won despite, you know, he has to pull it out at the end. 436 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,120 Like they're not really setting him up for success. 437 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:25,840 I think he'd lost nine straight games before this past win. 438 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,480 So yeah, it's it's definitely that is the real concern for me. 439 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,080 I'm less concerned about the Evan Ingram part of it, but just 440 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,800 like this offense being well designed and them featuring the 441 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,640 right guys is definitely a little bit worrisome. 442 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,240 But if we just like zoom out, I mean, you're talking about a 443 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,320 first round rookie who has 2.76 yards per outrun now and is 444 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,200 pretty clearly the number one on his team and also has a 12.98 445 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,480 out, which is deep. But not, he's not like 16. 446 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,560 Like he's not a one trick pony deep threat guy. 447 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,000 He's, he's operating like as a true #1 like a 12.9 A dot with 448 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,800 a, with a big target chair. It's like a classic alpha wide 449 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,800 receiver type of mark. So I'm, I'm pretty excited about 450 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,080 being able to get Thomas in the, the 6th 7th round. 451 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,520 I think especially, you know, as we we move down the stretch, 452 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,080 he's I think going to help team stand out a little bit. 453 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,120 I agree with this one and you guys know me my my brain is 454 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,320 pretty broken and I can only think in terms of Marvin 455 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,680 Harrison when I think about any rookie wide receiver. 456 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,960 But let's just say it, Brian Thomas has been a better wide 457 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,320 receiver than Marvin Harrison so far this year. 458 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,760 I think people think of this season as like neighbors Marvin 459 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,240 Harrison than everyone else. From a fantasy perspective, it's 460 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,200 actually been neighbors tier of his own, then Thomas and then 461 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,640 Jefferson below Brian Thomas, both in terms of PPR scoring. 462 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,400 He's slightly below him in targets for route run. 463 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,120 You talked about that E dot thing, Pat. 464 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,440 That's what I'm worried about with Marvin Harrison a little 465 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,640 bit. He's being used at this like 466 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,400 crazy high E naughty 15 averaged up the target like that's that's 467 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,560 really high compared to any other top wide receiver. 468 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,040 So again, this isn't to to bury Marvin Harrison. 469 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,240 He's at a fine start to his rookie year, but Brian Thomas 470 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,840 has, I've been that dude so far, really impressive 24% targets 471 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,000 for that run as a rookie with all that target competition, 472 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000 considering like how many of those have been deep targets, 473 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,040 it's like a really, really valuable role he has there. 474 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,440 So yeah, I'm I'm all on board on. 475 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,560 This and he's good like he's he's he's drawing targets. 476 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,280 He's he's yeah, he looks great out there. 477 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,840 So, yeah, yeah. He's a fun guy to watch. 478 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,200 Davis any? Any final thoughts on Brian 479 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,400 Thomas there? Well, you, you did. 480 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,960 You did skip a rookie wide receiver who did score the only 481 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,240 touchdown for his Four and O team last week and is about to 482 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,520 see 9 1/2 targets tonight. It's just interesting. 483 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,480 Yeah, that is, that is curious. Yeah, well, we'll, we'll see on 484 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,240 Xavier Worthy. I just would like to see. 485 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,560 Unironic. We are actually about to get a 486 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,320 lot of information about him tonight. 487 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,160 Like if if they're brutal tonight and he kind of dont 488 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,720 avian Wicks. Is it not good? 489 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,080 Really not good across the board. 490 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,280 Not good for the best ball bags, but don't like with Xavier 491 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,160 worthy. I mean, think about like Tyree 492 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,640 Kill, like Tyree Kill started out as the hybrid running back 493 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,440 wide receiver for them. Like I, I guess he's such a, he 494 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,280 does something so well and then he also is like skinny and, you 495 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,320 know, unrefined in certain ways. He is kind of getting better 496 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320 every week. Like I to be honest, to be 497 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,680 honest, I actually as like a Chiefs fan and a worthy guy. 498 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,520 I, I'm really not worried. I, I think he's probably pretty 499 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,280 up to it. And I think Andy Reid, like Andy 500 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,440 Reid kind of in a way, don't you feel like he's kind of a sicko? 501 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,960 Like he's like, you're going to make me win football games with 502 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,480 Juju Smith, Schuster, Nico Remigio and Xavier. 503 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,000 Morgan. Like Challenge, except he's kind 504 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,400 of like you. You have no idea how many 505 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,080 laterals and how many ring around the Rosies are about to 506 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,240 be called in this game against the. 507 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,520 Same. They're about to sign Sammy 508 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,600 Watkins and have Cream Hunt throw him a touchdown. 509 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sammy Watkins is going to be 510 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,280 achieved by week nine. Yeah, I, I don't know if that's 511 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,760 been reported yet, but that is that's coming. 512 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,200 Yeah, I do have Noah Gray starting in a $2000 buy in 513 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,960 multiple, multiple. Yeah, I'm definitely having a 514 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,960 good season on. That later. 515 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:35,960 That's OK. OK, so I benched Mark Andrews in 516 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,280 two main events and honestly, I wasn't even mad that he got to 9 517 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,240 points. I was like, whatever, like, you 518 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,160 know, you know what? I were you mad when you saw that 519 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,480 that 8 coming up off the ground on that touchdown after Mark 520 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,760 Andrews got it down to the one because I was I was pretty mad 521 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160 because because Charlie Golar, man, I've. 522 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,680 Already written those. I've already sent those bags to 523 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,960 the bank examiner. Bank Exam. 524 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,120 He's already written those off. Yeah, it's I mean he had less 525 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,640 you the third most points on his team out of the tight ends so. 526 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,560 Sam, do you regret carving out Mark Andrews and Travis Kelsey 527 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,400 from your Don't Draft Elite tight Ends take? 528 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:21,600 I don't remember doing that. I don't. 529 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,440 I don't think I did. That don't don't take elite 530 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,200 tight ends unless it's the very worst one. 531 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,560 You're calling Travis Kelsey the very. 532 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,400 Worst. No, I'm calling Mark Andrews the 533 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,880 very worst one. I'm giving you credit for also 534 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,920 having Kelsey in there who hasn't been good but at least 535 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,960 hasn't been angers. Yeah, yeah, let let me pull up 536 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,880 the the Andrews stuff. Yeah, it's. 537 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,080 It's not good. You don't even need, you don't 538 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,520 even need to pull it out because 00 wouldn't be that much of a 539 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,480 difference. Yeah. 11% Mark Andrews does not 540 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,360 does not feel great right now, that's for sure Yeah, that's no 541 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,360 God. OK I'll move on to mine. 542 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,200 We talked about this to to start the show. 543 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,960 Pat was not here so I'll I'll keep it quick so people don't 544 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,440 have to listen to us talk about Rico Daddles twice. 545 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240 He's he's my victory lap. This one's pretty simple I 546 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,160 think. Like honestly, if you want to 547 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,640 read the case on Rico Daddell, just read Pat's article before 548 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,560 the season. I think that explains it pretty 549 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,320 well. The bet on Rico Datal was never 550 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,000 that he was some superior talent, it's just that he was 551 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,240 clearly, in my opinion, a much better talent than, you know, 552 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,400 close to 30 year old Ezekiel Elliott. 5 foot three, 170 LB 553 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,320 deuce spawn. You know that there's nobody 554 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,880 else in this roster that post any kind of threat for the early 555 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,440 down work. It did take a couple weeks. 556 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,800 They did try to mix in Zeke early on. 557 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,280 They tried out their other options because again, Rico 558 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Dowdle is not some amazing talent. 559 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,320 But Fast forward to Week 5, he's got 70% of the rushing attempts, 560 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,520 50% of the snaps. He kind of, you know, got his 561 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,160 way to low end RB1 utilization status there with that type of 562 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400 role. And he got 100 yards and a 563 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,480 touchdown, caught a pass downfield. 564 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,080 He actually has 20% targets for route run on the season and is 565 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,320 limited pass catching work. So I do think that's something 566 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,200 he can do a little bit more of than he showed so far. 567 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,480 But yeah, it's, again, I'm not lying to you guys and I'm not 568 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,160 saying that Rico Dattle is like some amazing running back. 569 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,440 Like on any other NFL team, I would not have been pumped about 570 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,400 drafting Rico Dattle, but. Zeke is at 0. 571 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,480 Dalvin Cook has not been activated from the practice 572 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,520 squad duspon they are already done with the experiment. 573 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,000 It's a clear. It's a clear win, clear, clear 574 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,840 win. Yeah. 575 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,840 Yeah, and it didn't feel good getting there. 576 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Like I to me, it's sort of a reminder that like God, some 577 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,240 like fantasy football can be such a stressful game because 578 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,440 like Rico, I do think it's a clear win, but like, I thought 579 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,600 he was a clear loss like 3 weeks ago. 580 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,240 Like it's just like, God, this guy's not good. 581 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,280 There's. Been a lot. 582 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,840 Of often sucks there's. There's been a lot of It's so 583 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,720 Jover. We're so Barox, Yeah, like 584 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,160 Dulcavian Ricks. I've changed my mind four times 585 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,840 I think already and I'm currently at It's Jover but 586 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,440 looks. Pretty Jover, but did your tweet 587 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,240 about him not being able to use his hands? 588 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760 It's been pretty good. Yeah. 589 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,840 It would have been nice to see him catch the ball. 590 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,080 That would have been fun. I was like, I was very all in on 591 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,320 Wix talking about him briefly, but I did I will say like in my 592 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,960 article, I'm talking to people. I did say multiple times like 593 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,240 you guys don't understand how bad this dude's hands have been. 594 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Like this isn't like normal drops. 595 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,960 It's literally half of his targets on the season. 596 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,840 He's dropping, straight up dropping the ball like slipping 597 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,760 and doing weird things or like not coming out with contested 598 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,680 catches. Like please please fix this on 599 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,120 Davian Wicks. You're way too good of a route 600 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,240 runner to have this shitty of hands. 601 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,000 It doesn't. It doesn't make any sense. 602 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,800 What do you think of Christian Watson low advance rate? 603 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,680 Is Is Christian Watson the answer now? 604 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,600 I think I think Romeo Dobbs might be the answer. 605 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,880 Well, not he's getting suspended for personal reasons. 606 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,680 I guess it's just Jayden. Jayden was the answer. 607 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,760 Remember when we thought Jay there was too much target 608 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,600 competition for Jayden Ray to do anything? 609 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,960 That doesn't seem to be the case now. 610 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920 No, they're the friends and family night snap counts. 611 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,480 Those are always something you really want to look very 612 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720 powerful into when you're evaluating a player. 613 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,120 Let's move on to bag defending. I'll start with you here, Pat. 614 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,400 Who do you want to bag defend this week all? 615 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Right well, so I've got to save up now there's reports that we 616 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,040 might get Drake may this week. OK, so I can't victory lap that 617 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,320 yet because he's and not very good when he's actually been on 618 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,880 the field for a hot 2nd and he probably won't be very good 619 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,000 going against the Texans. So they they have pretty decent 620 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,720 defense. So we're safe. 621 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,800 We're probably going to be back defending Drake May this time 622 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,960 next week. But for now, I'm going to bag 623 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,560 defend Jalen Polk, who almost scored a touchdown. 624 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,000 You know, foot comes down out of bounds. 625 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Second, second time he's done that, by the way. 626 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Yeah, he, he went to the Garrett Wilson School of of attention to 627 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,200 detail. It's it's not ideal. 628 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840 But wait, can we talk about quickly how dumb that rule is 629 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,080 that if you're toe tapping on the sidelines, all you need to 630 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,200 get is your toe down, but if you're toe tapping the back the 631 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,080 end zone, you have to get your full heel down. 632 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,000 It's like a different rule for that the annoying. 633 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,280 No. No, not a great, not a great 634 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,800 rule. Well, you want to know a double 635 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,600 annoying thing about the rule is that if your hand lands first in 636 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,000 a way that obviously would help you secure the ball, you're out. 637 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,800 But if you just get your toes down and land your ass on the 638 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,960 ground because your toes were down first, it it, it's a catch. 639 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,200 It, it's a very, it's a very stupid rule. 640 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,120 It's a. It's a very down rule. 641 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,280 Yeah. But anyway, I have got a ton of 642 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,520 poll. He's been horrible this year. 643 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,120 He's got 0.58 yards per outrun. It's it's super jover. 644 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,760 Except if we get Drake may, I just think that breathing some 645 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,160 life into the offense here will happen. 646 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,680 I think pretty quickly because people you're seeing the stuff 647 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,760 of there's there are two camps on the Drake may thing and one 648 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,720 of the camps is that he's going to be really inconsistent and 649 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,040 get crushed behind this offensive line. 650 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,880 And that's true. But when he's not doing that, 651 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,400 there's going to be some life in the offense. 652 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,880 It's going to actually have some highs as opposed to just this 653 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,360 grinded out awful slog that we we got with Brissett. 654 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,960 So this was the idea here is that, you know, we were going to 655 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,160 get May early ish into the season and that his weapons 656 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,840 would actually benefit from his ability to make play. 657 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,640 So we haven't seen that yet, but I think we're going to see it 658 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,960 starting in Week 6. And so bag defending, drafting 659 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,240 his #1 receiver. I like that this was also mine 660 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,680 this week. I fully agree with this. 661 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,160 And also I have a ton of Polk, so it's probably a little bit of 662 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,760 cope in there as well. The other notes I'll add in is 663 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,560 the return of Kendrick Bourne, Although I do expect Bourne's 664 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,080 role to be bigger than it was in Week 5, the return of Bourne did 665 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,320 not impact Polk's route rate at all. 666 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,720 He was actually up to 97% route participation. 667 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,719 So, yeah, that was good to see. And then, yeah, just like a 668 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,840 percent may take, like my Jacoby percent take is if he could be 669 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,080 like a game manager, as like a backup quarterback on a team 670 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,560 with good weapons, he could be pretty good. 671 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,000 Like we've seen that the past couple years. 672 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,560 But this environment where the whole line is terrible, the wide 673 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,080 receivers are terrible and he has to try to go like hero ball 674 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,920 mode is not who Jacoby percent is. 675 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,320 And that sounds really obvious. But like I actually think some 676 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,280 of the limitations of the patriots weapons and online 677 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,159 could actually benefit from like the Yolo play style of Drake 678 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:45,199 May. He's going to make a ton of 679 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,040 mistakes. He'll probably make a ton of 680 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,560 sacks, but at least there can be some fun playmaking here. 681 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,960 Jacoby Brissett can just not get it done from the playmaking 682 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,920 aspect of things. So I am excited to see how that 683 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,000 unlocks the Patriots weapons. I think even Hunter Henry here, 684 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,480 someone I'm a little bit more excited about, just like a 685 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,280 little bit more scramble drill situation stuff with Drake Man 686 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,920 or said, or maybe he can get open for a couple more bigger 687 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,320 chunk plays. So yeah, I'm with Pat on this 688 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,400 one. Yeah. 689 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,760 You would trade interceptions and lost fumbles for some throws 690 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,800 that that produce fancy points. Like just like adding some 691 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,360 volatility. What includes negative outcomes 692 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,000 would still be like, so good for the skill players in this 693 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,160 offense. Like, it's just where they score 694 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,800 10 points against the Dolphins. Like you just can't like, score 695 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,280 20 and lose by 20. That's way better for us. 696 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,840 You know, don't don't lose by 7 and score 10 or whatever. 697 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960 Yeah. The one thing I will say in Polk 698 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,720 is the whole offseason I was like, there's no way this can 699 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,120 fail. He's going to have a huge role. 700 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,640 The only way he can fail is if he's Jonathan Mingo. 701 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,800 And then I pull up the per route stats and I'm like, oh God, did 702 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,920 I just draft Jonathan Mingo 2 point O? 703 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:01,040 So I'm not calling him that yet. But I will say the the one 704 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,720 hesitation I have with this take is just like, besides the almost 705 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,840 TD there actually OK. He said two like almost huge 706 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,520 plays, which I think are skewing the stats. 707 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,160 It was for San Francisco. We had that sideline catch where 708 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,080 I think he got inbounds. They didn't call that complete 709 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,720 the almost touchdown here. So that that's skewing things. 710 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:21,600 Those two plays would make him look better, but he hasn't 711 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,360 looked great as an individual player. 712 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,520 He has 74 yards through five weeks. 713 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,240 That's that's not great, that's not great. 714 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,000 His his entire season long stat line 974 and one would be like a 715 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:42,240 pretty good week. So it's like not great, but but 716 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,440 hopefully we get Drake may added some value and and you know, 717 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,760 Dave, you've talked about like his Drake may did not have a 718 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,520 good online in in college. So I'm hoping, I'm hoping the 719 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,960 online stuff is not as dire for him as it has been for Berset. 720 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,880 Yeah. Yeah, that that that literally 721 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,720 like the it's like, well, maybe we have maybe we have bad habits 722 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,400 getting learned and maybe this is bad for Drake may long term, 723 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,840 but he's going to come firing like that's. 2025 Pats problem. 724 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,040 That's 2025 Pats problem 100. Percent, yeah, you you can find 725 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,880 a way to sell them in dynasty for like Shakur Sanders or 726 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,520 something. At that point, you'll you'll 727 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,160 figure out a way out. All right, Davis, unless you 728 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,600 have anything final words to say on the Polk stuff, who is your 729 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,640 bag defending player this week? You know, mine is actually kind 730 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,360 of related to the Brian Thomas junior. 731 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,440 I'm going to bag defend Roma Dunze because I think the 732 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,920 thesis, I think ultimately probably it's going to have 733 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,200 played out too slow to help our advance rates. 734 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Like he might like we might already be. 735 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,480 It's the classic like, oh, my 10th place teams just moved to 736 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:56,000 6th place this week. But Caleb looks a lot better 737 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,480 now. Granted, the Carolina Panthers 738 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,560 are not an NFL caliber defense, but we have like multiple games 739 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,400 of him kind of stringing things together, figuring it out on the 740 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,400 run. The run game is better, which is 741 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,960 like such a you know, it's obviously what a ball number 742 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,960 would say, but just like a lot less 3rd and 10s second and 12 743 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,800 type situations. That is a huge help to a rookie 744 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,160 quarterback. Comet looks pretty good. 745 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,760 DJ Moore. I mean, I I got to say for 746 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,600 victory lapping, I think I was definitely right to be hammering 747 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,800 DJ Moore there like DJ Moore, just a great football player. 748 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:34,280 But Keenan is pretty clearly like 3032 year old wide receiver 749 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,720 with lower body injuries. Who and like Sam, people are 750 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,000 always in your mentions about this. 751 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,680 Like look how good he was last year. 752 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,760 So yeah, he was really good on a team that fired everyone, fired 753 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,600 everyone associated with the team. 754 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,640 They were they were so good that anyone like the Chargers fired 755 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,880 their their like lunch ladies because everyone. 756 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,600 Was. So bad. 757 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,600 Yeah, it's, it's, it's like he can't, I think he can still like 758 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,000 get open and do it, but he can't do it all game consistently. 759 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080 You should have, you should have victory lap the Fat Keenan 760 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,440 narrative because that, that narrative is looking pretty 761 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,520 good, yeah. Yeah, maybe he really will. 762 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,760 Work for Conde Nast now. Yeah, the Keenan's, the Keenan's 763 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,400 stuff like it's one of those things where it's, so I I dove 764 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,240 deep into the pre snap motion stuff this past year and Keenan 765 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:26,680 was the guy who led the league in percentage of his yardage 766 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,000 receptions. That was from like schemed fast 767 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,440 motion usage, which is one of those data points were like, 768 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,640 there's not AI. Haven't looked at that for a 769 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,360 while. I can't say like I confidently 770 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,280 know how to interpret that. The other players on that list 771 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,520 are like Jaden Reed, Debo Samuel, like guys like that, 772 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,320 where I actually take it as a bullish indicator for Keenan. 773 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,720 Maybe it was just my bias. I was saying, like, this is 774 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:53,000 actually a pretty big red flag that the environment, the 775 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,720 coaching situation is completely changed. 776 00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:57,200 Now. He's not on a Chargers team with 777 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,600 Justin Herbert, who gets the ball out on time and he's 778 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,800 surrounded. He's not surrounded by, you 779 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,040 know, Darius Davis and Quinton Johnson running outside routes 780 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,680 now. He's now on a team with like, DJ 781 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,520 Moore, Roma Dunze, a rookie quarterback who's not 782 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,440 necessarily known for like. Hitting, you know, guys on time 783 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,440 in the short area of the field. So yeah, I, I was just really 784 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,440 skeptical of the Keenan Allen. Like, oh, I, I totally 785 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,840 acknowledge he was on on pace last year for like 140 catches, 786 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,840 like 1000 something yards. I totally like got the bull 787 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,800 case, but I was just not buying that. 788 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,960 That was something that was sticky moving year over year. 789 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,320 But you know, we'll see this early for him. 790 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:41,160 I just want to say on Keenan, I just want us to to remember that 791 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,560 when he's going in the 15th round, is Quinn Ewers clear #1 792 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,480 next year that we should draft a little, you know? 793 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:52,520 Say that that I think I, I think I'll, I'll be in now. 794 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,000 Where do you have Quinn Ewers playing and is is he the 795 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600 Cleveland quarterback I. Think he's I think he's the 796 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,680 Panthers quarterback. Quinn Ewers with Xavier Lee get 797 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,680 I. Think that's true? 798 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,000 That's true. They've got Tiante. 799 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,000 Yeah, you're right. It needs to be, it needs to be a 800 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440 tear down. So so the the Browns probably is 801 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,280 the answer. They'll have Judy, so he'll 802 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,200 he'll he'll be there, although Judy might not really be on the 803 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,240 field. Yeah. 804 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,560 Anyway, yeah, back to him reviving in a in a worse charger 805 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,000 situation. But it looks pretty over. 806 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,600 It looks pretty. Over yeah, back to the Rome side 807 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,600 of things. I I do agree with Davis there 808 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,280 also probably my bias. I drafted a shit ton of Rome, so 809 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,320 you can definitely point to that. 810 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,960 But yeah, I think, I think the bears are figuring this thing 811 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,120 out. I actually thought your 812 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,840 walkthrough article last week, Pat, was really interesting 813 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,040 where I just kind of wanted to write off Caleb Williams is like 814 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,600 dog shit through the 1st 4 weeks. 815 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,960 And you pulled up some interesting stuff about how he's 816 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,320 shown like consistent, steady improvement over the first four 817 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,160 weeks of the season. And that obviously continued in 818 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,160 Week 5. Hyper accurate with all these 819 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,080 short area stuff, which I think is is pretty bullish. 820 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,920 Yeah, so let's see him against a real defense. 821 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,920 Who do the Bears play next week? Oh, the Jags. 822 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,640 OK, so that's not a real defense. 823 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,400 That should be good. But they get the Jags and then 824 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,880 Commanders in back-to-back weeks. 825 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,800 I guess commanders have been playing a little bit better on 826 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,000 defense a little. Bit better but. 827 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,640 No, no they haven't. Well. 828 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,600 The the buddy the Cleveland Browns do not count. 829 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,000 No result. Yeah, that's true, Browns. 830 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,880 The Cardinals. They played better against the 831 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,160 Cardinals. The the results against Kyler 832 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,440 Murray count like I don't know. They they actually don't know 833 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,960 either do. They OK, they beat the 49ers 834 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,480 last week. Kyler was pretty fun. 835 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,000 They beat the 49ers because Kyler Shanahan was like born 836 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,880 without. I think he just like maybe 837 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,040 doesn't have adrenaline in his brain or something. 838 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,040 I It's hard for me to say what his deal is because he's clearly 839 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,520 a football genius, but like he loses games his team has 840 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,680 absolutely no business losing. Can we talk about Zach Taylor, 841 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,880 who's got whatever this is plus a million? 842 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:03,920 He he played for a 56 yard field goal like it was a chip shot 843 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,920 like it was a chip. Shot well to be. 844 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,200 It was the most hourly. Yeah, to be fair, I've never 845 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,760 seen a red zone, a field goal over 55 yards missed on red zone 846 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,640 this year. They're they have 100% accuracy. 847 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,240 So I got I caught him. On red zone prime time, he goes, 848 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,920 he gets it closer. I'm on red zone baby. 849 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,040 That was crazy. I I could not believe that 850 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,040 they're running up the gut like not even attempting a pass there 851 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,960 like they were on like the I was. 852 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,760 So I literally was just like, and I've been rooting for the 853 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,720 Bengals. I had this lineup I mentioned 854 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:38,600 was a was a Bengals double stack, which is why I was 855 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:45,000 especially aggrieved with this. I grow the ball, but they just, 856 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,960 you know, they wouldn't do it. So I went. 857 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,920 When he lined up with that kick, I was like, miss it. 858 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,760 Miss this kick. I want to see the. 859 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,680 Ravens, I want to see the Ravens punish them just like they did. 860 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,680 So God, that was that was that's worse than I think anything 861 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,080 Shanahan's done, but very much in that camp. 862 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,840 Yeah, giving Shanahan a tiny bit of credit. 863 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,200 The kicker? Jake Moody was ruled out. 864 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,840 With an he played he played for a 19 yard field goal that the 865 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,000 punter kicked at the end of the second-half. 866 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,040 Yeah, but I, I guess I was thinking like for a punter who 867 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,400 like doesn't kick field goals, isn't there a big difference 868 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,320 between like a 20 yard field goal and like a 40 yard field 869 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,360 goal? What what I'm saying is that he 870 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,280 played for a field goal in an opportunity when he had. 871 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,120 A oh oh. I'm saying, I'm saying he had 872 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,320 multiple opportunities to play for touchdowns and he didn't do 873 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,160 it. They also like threw a couple 874 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,160 times. There was a third and three I 875 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,200 think where they have this really dumb pretty drop back 876 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,000 pass called. It's like you don't have a 877 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,400 kicker, like just go like run the ball. 878 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,960 Now, I also had Jordan Mason on the slap. 879 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,320 So, you know, I'm extremely biased, but I just run the ball 880 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,960 and you can run it again on 4th. You know, if Shanahan hates to 881 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,040 go for it on 4th, but like, and maybe that's what maybe he knew 882 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,920 if you got a yard, you'd have to go for it on on 4th and do 883 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,320 something sharp. But yeah, Shanahan needs someone 884 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,600 to just like, I don't even need to like go to like a a course on 885 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,200 this. Like this one part of your games 886 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,400 is so square. Yeah, it's frustrating. 887 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,440 Because he's such a genius, you know, he could like, why? 888 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,560 Why is there a thing that like, we know better than Shanahan? 889 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,560 This guy knows football like better than 99% of humans on 890 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,720 Earth. And yet, like, we can sit here 891 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,520 and watch the game and be like, that's, that's really stupid. 892 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,000 These guys need like I think it's Amiko that's that has this 893 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,040 tweet of like all the Shanahan coaching tree guys are like 894 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,800 genius schemers and play callers, but they need a 895 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,400 coaching assistant that just handles like in game decision 896 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,800 making on 4th down and clock management like just the little 897 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,040 things like that. Even Andy Reid, I think. 898 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,880 Has this? He's gotten better, too. 899 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,600 He's gotten better. He makes, he makes. 900 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,600 Some boneheaded mistakes in this area as well. 901 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,840 He got better. He got better because he got 902 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,520 gifted God's greatest son like he like that's true. 903 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,160 Andy Reid did. Andy Reid said, oh, I have the 904 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,120 literal greatest dude to ever do this. 905 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,160 He just converts these for fun, so I might as well. 906 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,600 And he still, he still doesn't always do it. 907 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,080 He's kicked multiple field goals this year inside the one yard 908 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,200 line with Pat as his quarterback. 909 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,240 Yeah, although the guy playing Patrick Mahomes is not a great 910 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,040 actor this year. I like. 911 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:24,200 I'd like Patrick Mahomes to return from whatever. 912 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,120 Sabbatical. He's on. 913 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,800 I've been workshopping this take I I and I bet I'll be able to 914 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,360 sell Sam on this one. The worst thing to happen to 915 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,840 Patrick? Career. 916 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,960 Long term, like him breaking every record, all of Brady's 917 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,360 records, everything was having to win the way he won last year. 918 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,960 He, he basically has PTSD. He's like, you have no idea. 919 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,960 The dark places I had to go to win a Super Bowl with Sky Moore 920 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,320 is my wide receiver 2 and Justin Watson is my wide receiver 3. 921 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,880 Like he had to go so dark and he can't, he can't get himself out 922 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,000 of it. You know what it is? 923 00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,360 Yeah, it's the Brady career, but you, he started in the middle. 924 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,800 His first years were 2007, you know, and he's just going nuts. 925 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,840 It's amazing. And then he's going now it's 926 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,560 like 2001, like like what we've returned to, you know, the Dion 927 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,640 branch years. It's just, I don't know, I would 928 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,720 like us to go back to the high flying era as soon as possible. 929 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,080 I think we're about to have the the 2019 era Brady where the 930 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,600 team trades a second round pick for Mohamed Sanu. 931 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,760 Now, I'm not sure if that's going to be, you know, Romeo 932 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,600 Dobbs or, or who who that's going to. 933 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,640 Be. It's going to be Darius. 934 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:36,760 Darius you. Could be the Mohamed Sanu a real 935 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,200 life NFL. You know what is second round 936 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,120 actually for Mohamed Sanu? It's Mooney. 937 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,280 It's Mooney. Bill Belichick would trade a 938 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,720 second off pick. Darnell Mooney. 939 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,880 Darnell Mooney, Yeah, I mean rocket shit. 940 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,520 See, that's what I'm saying. Sam is hoping the Patriots 941 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,480 trade. It's like a round pick for a 942 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,960 man. 1st with that, what we use our first round picks on, just 943 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,800 just trade a first round pick with Don on May. 944 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,600 Come on man, you said on May. Well, besides that one, there's 945 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,320 God, yeah. Yeah. 946 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,960 It's been a rough stretch. Matt Jones or Darnell Mooney? 947 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,600 Which one? Oh, come on. 948 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,960 It's not even close. It's not even close. 949 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,840 God, Matt Jones. It's always funny when I see him 950 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,640 on the Jack on the Jaguar sideline. 951 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,640 I'm like, oh, that's. It's so. 952 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,360 Funny these days it is fun. Anyways, that that was a great 953 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,840 draft class. Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Mac 954 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,320 Jones, Zach Wilson, just a bunch a bunch of good quarterbacks 955 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,360 there from that generational class. 956 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,120 Let's move on to our panic button players from this week. 957 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,440 I'm going to go first. I got I got my bag of defense 958 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,320 stolen from me with Julian Polk. So I'm going to go first here 959 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:52,280 and panic button mine. And I'll be clear in how I 960 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,960 clarify this, but my panic button this week that I finally 961 00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,960 came to the realization of is Dijon and Breece were not good. 962 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,640 Top six or seven picks stole. My yeah. 963 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,000 And this is far from a full on panic like these guys. 964 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,200 If we're redrafting today I'm probably taking them in the mid 965 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,240 second, maybe even 1-2 turn. I'd have to actually map it out. 966 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,040 But this is not like oh they suck they're busts. 967 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:23,000 No, I just pivoted at the end of the season to trying to go for 968 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,280 hero running back builds, taking Bijan and Breece over Chase, 969 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,520 Jefferson, Tyree kill a Monra. I didn't have like crazily 970 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,520 skewed exposures but I ended up with 12% Breeze, 14% Dijon, and 971 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,360 then just 8% of Jefferson, 8% of Chase, 5% of a Monra, 5% of 972 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,560 Tyree kill. So not horrible, but certainly 973 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,480 would I would I trade 15% Jefferson. 974 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,680 You know what I make that swap with Jefferson and those running 975 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,480 backs 100% like that. That is clear cut right now. 976 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,920 And I think also hammering the hero running back builds that 977 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,120 got me off of like I wasn't taking as much James Cook, 978 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,120 Kenneth Walker, guys like that as I was early in the draft 979 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,080 season because I was like, oh, I got my hero RB build with the 980 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,000 Dijon and Priest. Don't need to take the plunge on 981 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,240 those guys. So I think that's hurt me a bit 982 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,280 as well. Just just in terms of like the 983 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,240 role in utilization. I think what's hurting these 984 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:24,480 guys is I thought that Bruce and Bijan really had a chance to 985 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,640 separate as like the very few backs in NFL. 986 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,120 They were getting these crazy workhorse roles. 987 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,680 And the roles have just been like fine. 988 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,880 Like you look at utilization or on fantasy points, Bijan is 11th 989 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,360 amongst running backs, Bruce is 7th. 990 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,120 But that doesn't even really tell the full story because 991 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,640 they're just like, frankly, like this sounds like a hot take. 992 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,760 But like just strictly looking at their roles, like what 993 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,840 they're doing with Dijon, Atlanta is not that different 994 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,200 from what they're doing with like DeAndre Swift in Chicago 995 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,920 with Tony Pollard in Tennessee. Like he just doesn't have this 996 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,600 like crazy work horse role above what these other middling 997 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,760 talents have. And I think that's that's 998 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,440 frankly hurting him. There's been some weird stuff. 999 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,040 Big plays, call back by penalty, I think just touchdowns not 1000 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,160 going his way that are going to change for both of these guys. 1001 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,880 But yeah, man, like I I think I think it was a mistake to like 1002 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,960 always take him above Chase and Jefferson in the first round 1003 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,680 this year. But curious what you guys think 1004 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,640 of that if you think I'm overreacting too much. 1005 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,480 To I think you're, I think you're overreacting to Bijon 1006 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,320 when actually if you wanted to have rose colored glasses, you 1007 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,360 could say Kirk Cousins kind of coming back is super bullish. 1008 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,160 Bijon was playing on a short week, very clearly was injured 1009 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,960 in my mind, like very clearly the way they were using him. 1010 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,960 So he only got used in outside zone runs. 1011 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,400 And you, why would you do that, Windhorst? 1012 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,120 You don't want to get piled up on, you don't want him having to 1013 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,720 push through the pile. You want to get him into space, 1014 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:58,240 see if he can run a straight line and make something happen. 1015 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:01,480 Alger handled all this stuff in between the tackles. 1016 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,840 Now if he if if he has 18 carries for 62 yards and four 1017 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,640 receptions for 17 yards against the Panthers this week, then 1018 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,080 yes, full on panic button. It's not coming back. 1019 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,880 It's Jover we and Bijan Robinson becomes the Kyle Pitts of Adrian 1020 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,720 Peterson. It's like very, very quickly, 1021 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,120 Reese. It took it took you a while to 1022 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,440 get to that line that was a. Lot of it's a good it was worth. 1023 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,120 It was worth the walk, but I got to. 1024 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:32,720 I got there, you got there. Now, Reese, I got to be honest, 1025 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:36,880 I don't really see a way back because the issue now is they 1026 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,600 play so slow. They play so fucking slow. 1027 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,720 They're not dedicated to getting him the PPR scam stuff the way 1028 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:47,960 that Zach Wilson and Tim Boyle and these guys were dedicated to 1029 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,760 getting him the PPR scam stuff. And you have the specter of what 1030 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,160 he might just not get carries from the three yard line anymore 1031 00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:02,880 if if Braylon can do it so. So I, I think there definitely 1032 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,960 is a way back for Breece. My thinking is this almost has 1033 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,640 to be the low point of the season. 1034 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,800 Now, does that mean he's going to end up being worth like the 1035 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,880 one O 6 or the one O 5? No, it does not mean that. 1036 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,400 But I do think that this is probably as bad as we're going 1037 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,160 to feel because and to me, the way back is the PPR scam stuff 1038 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,320 he's had. His targets have been 68554. 1039 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,520 He's been involved consistently in the passing game. 1040 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,880 We also did see Braylon Allen get stuffed on a couple short 1041 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,320 yardage runs. Last week has not been like when 1042 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,440 you go to the advanced numbers, Braylon Allen's been like 1043 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,640 totally whatever. He's he hasn't been now the eye 1044 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,920 test. I'm like this dude looks really 1045 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,600 good, but like I don't I, I wonder if we're just like liking 1046 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,120 his running style to some extent because he hasn't. 1047 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,480 I I find that a lot of the times with running backs, by the way, 1048 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,240 where sometimes I watch him and I'm like, oh shit, this guy, 1049 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,440 this guy's killing it and his advanced stuff will be like, 1050 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,800 fine. I I find that I find that quite 1051 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,840 often. Yeah, so I'm, I, I'm this isn't 1052 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,280 negative on Braylon Allen. I think Braylon Allen's good and 1053 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,320 I think he's going to be a thorn in Bruce Hall's side. 1054 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,320 But there's there was especially after Bruce Hall is like 1055 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,160 combined for like 5 points in two weeks. 1056 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,040 You're like, is this dude even like they're starting running 1057 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,360 back now? Like what's going on? 1058 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,520 And I think he's still going to be very clearly like the high 1059 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,560 upside way to play that backfield the rest of the way. 1060 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,800 But this kind of level of boom bust is just should not be in 1061 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,160 the cards for what we paid. And you don't have to talk about 1062 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,240 it like, well, he's going to get used a lot of the receiving back 1063 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,600 like that sounds cool if we drafted him in the third round, 1064 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,960 but it's pretty awful to have paid low on A5 four. 1065 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,680 So it's it's definitely, I think I am panicking on briefs, but I 1066 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,320 guess I'm just saying like, I don't think it's completely 1067 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,320 over. I think in part they scored, 1068 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,240 they scored nine points against Denver and then 17 points 1069 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,840 against the Vikings. And to Davis's point, they play 1070 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,520 super slow. You know, Rogers has never been 1071 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,360 for whatever reason, you know, he's seems like a very confident 1072 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,120 guy, but he Denver pushes his advantage. 1073 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,840 He's the better quarterback on the field in almost every game 1074 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,400 he's played. And yet they're trying to limit 1075 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,600 the number of drives that each team gets for some reason. 1076 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,720 I've never understood it, but I think it's turning the offense. 1077 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,920 Pretty clearly, yeah, I think what it is in the Rogers point 1078 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,800 not defending this is like smart or but like what he thinks is 1079 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,960 that his advantage is being able to call audible to the line of 1080 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,840 scrimmage, call different plays, call out different hot routes, 1081 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,280 the wide receivers because he thinks he has the ability to 1082 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,600 read a defense so precisely he. Thinks if he tells all ten of 1083 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,280 his team mates what to do on a play, it can't possibly go 1084 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,440 wrong. Exactly. 1085 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,920 Yeah, Well, he should watch some film for like, the last, you 1086 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,760 know, his entire career. Like what doesn't you know? 1087 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,080 They don't, they don't have, they don't have a film room 1088 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:57,160 inside of his ayahuasca cave. Yeah, it's just, it's just 1089 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,880 frustrating. So I'm like, dude, if you, if 1090 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,200 you played fast, like you know, you might get an extra like .75 1091 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,120 drives per game and like that probably is meaningfully 1092 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,840 impacting your, your career winnings. 1093 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,600 Yeah, someone pointed out that the target advantage is going 1094 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,120 down and stuff. Yeah, the target, the targets 1095 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,840 are decreasing. But you know, we're looking at a 1096 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,200 dude who's completely dropped off in scoring. 1097 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:24,600 You know, he had 1.8, you know, standard fantasy points 2 weeks 1098 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,200 ago. So to get 5 targets in that 1099 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,760 game, I think it's still like a little bit of a, a reason to not 1100 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,080 to say, hey, we shouldn't like completely panic about this 1101 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,200 dude. His role has not evaporated. 1102 00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:41,760 He's just he's not been running great, not been making plays on 1103 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,240 a, on an offense that's also really struggling. 1104 00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:47,240 So who do they play this week? I think what we could really use 1105 00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:49,560 is a nice. Bills, Bills. 1106 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,960 That's yeah, it's not ideal, but it's not. 1107 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,840 It's not horrible, it's not bad, it's not horrible. 1108 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,720 Yeah. Monday night on that one, we get 1109 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,560 two more prime time games for Anderson Rodgers over the next 1110 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,400 couple weeks, Monday night against the Bills and then 1111 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,000 Sunday night the week after that against the Steelers. 1112 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,120 So that'll be some fun Twitter live tweeting. 1113 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,680 Either way, either either if an Aaron Rodgers is good or 1114 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,920 terrible, hopefully terrible. That'll certainly be fun to 1115 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:22,200 watch in prime time. Let's move on here to your panic 1116 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,240 button player, Davis. I had a couple, I had a couple 1117 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,080 different ones here that I that I thought I'm gonna actually 1118 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,760 gonna do. I'm gonna, I'm gonna do a 1119 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:37,240 facetious one that I think is is directionally informative in 1120 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,160 terms that it tells us we don't know shit. 1121 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,320 My panic button is gonna be Justin Jefferson in a very 1122 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,760 facetious way, because the thing we were worried about with 1123 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,120 Justin Jefferson, his quarterback plays can be 1124 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,240 terrible. How could he possibly get there? 1125 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,240 But it's so illustrative of the fact that we don't know 1126 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,520 anything. The reason that Justin Jefferson 1127 00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,000 is only like the third best wide receiver in fantasy thus far has 1128 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,360 nothing to do with his quarterback play, has nothing to 1129 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,760 do with his ability, has nothing to do with Kevin O'Connell. 1130 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,680 It's that his team is simply too good. 1131 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,640 They have trailed for three minutes and 34 seconds of the 1132 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,440 entire season through five games. 1133 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:18,120 That is the second best record. Ever since the NFL has existed, 1134 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,600 that is the second best time that a team is as Trail I and I 1135 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,000 can't even remember when it would have been. 1136 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,680 So you're trying to say that you were too Right on Justin 1137 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:32,640 Jefferson. No, I'm saying, I'm saying that. 1138 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,400 I'm saying, well, obviously I was right, but I, I'm going to, 1139 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,760 I'm going to end up not I, I think in the end I'm going to 1140 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:47,280 end up getting 1400 yards and 11 touchdowns and what should have 1141 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:53,640 been an 1800 yard 14 touchdown season probably because I mean, 1142 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,200 it's Week 5. The defense is too fucking good, 1143 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,600 yeah. Darnell hasn't topped 28 pass 1144 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,800 attempts in a game yet. Like we're it, it's just, it's 1145 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,520 just, you know, it is what it is. 1146 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,360 And that that seems like the direction that we're heading. 1147 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,280 Yeah, this was kind of my take the past couple weeks. 1148 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,080 Like now we have the hamstring injury to Nico and obviously the 1149 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,080 Rashid Rice injury happened, but just purely because of that, I 1150 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,440 was like barely tie breaking to these other guys over Jefferson, 1151 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,840 like CD Lamb, Nico, Rashid Rice, like just just barely same tier. 1152 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,320 So I didn't have that similar take of like, man, this this 1153 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,480 Vikings defense doesn't seem like a fluke to me of how well 1154 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,440 they play your your hope. If you're someone like me, is 1155 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,440 that Brian Flores has been in this position many times before. 1156 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,840 Brian Flores been a defensive coordinator for like 25 years. 1157 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,640 And he kind of always gets found out over the course of the year. 1158 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,880 He's very aggressive. He's like insanely aggressive. 1159 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,120 And you know, you, you can only play that way for, for. 1160 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,440 Yeah. Someone literally just said in 1161 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,320 the chat kind of basically what happens is his blitz patterns 1162 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,960 sort of get figured out and then it ends up being it ends up 1163 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,360 being. Because if you're blitzing, but 1164 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,680 the quarterback knows what the blitz is and knows who's 1165 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,800 unguarded, that that's like how you get, that's how you get 1166 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,760 picked apart. Yeah, yeah. 1167 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,880 It's interesting though, because Rodgers, maybe that's just to 1168 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,560 Rodgers has fallen off thing, but like traditionally you don't 1169 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,000 really blitz Rodgers because he's pretty good at figuring 1170 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,760 that out and and, you know, punishing. 1171 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:30,000 Jets offensive line is terrible. Because the Broncos blitzed him 1172 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,520 with success in Week 4. So I actually expected the 1173 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,560 Flores to do the same and I'm pulling it up. 1174 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,720 It looks like it worked well. Rogers was sixth worst against 1175 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:48,480 the blitz in week 5 and he was blitzed on 21 of his drop backs, 1176 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,680 which is the most of any quarterback last week. 1177 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,320 So they they had, they showed 0. Respect for him 0. 1178 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,760 Respect. Maybe it makes more sense to 1179 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,680 blitz Rogers now because he can't move. 1180 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,360 Like it's, it's a lot. It's a lot easier. 1181 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,040 It's a lot easier to blitz a guy who can't just like, sidestep 1182 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,040 the blitz. He's also not dialed in with 1183 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,680 with Adams or you know, he he doesn't have like he Lazard is 1184 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:09,240 probably. His. 1185 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,520 Yeah, Wilson is the safety valve for sure, but they just don't 1186 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,640 have the same connection that he did with Adams, which is 1187 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:20,920 obviously crazy high bar, but. Yeah, yeah, surely Garrett 1188 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,000 Wilson's and Stanley, inefficient yards for target. 1189 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,200 It's it's got to rebound eventually. 1190 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,280 It can't. You can't do this his whole 1191 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,160 career. Hey, who cares man? 1192 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,280 Give him 30 targets a game and we're good. 1193 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,000 Yeah, that's true if he gets 22 targets. 1194 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,480 It's not going to matter. Yeah, it's not. 4 yards. 1195 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,840 Target's fine. Yeah, great. 1196 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,160 God, that's insane. Also in that game random side 1197 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,800 now but Jefferson I think he was only charted with like 14 1198 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,560 targets but he drew like 567 DPI's I forget how he. 1199 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,960 Was he was he was called the defender guarding him was called 1200 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,120 for six penalties in the game against Insane. 1201 01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:59,560 Wow, wow. Yeah. 1202 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,920 I forget how that shows him the stat sheet. 1203 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,760 I feel like it as a target. So does it show a? 1204 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,040 Target again it it it doesn't. It doesn't. 1205 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,520 It doesn't, and it's a no choice nothing. 1206 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:12,840 OK. Oh, I thought you were doing a 1207 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:13,920 bit. No, it's just it's white. 1208 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,360 No, no. I mean in terms of targets, 1209 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,200 yeah. It doesn't. 1210 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,600 If you're targeted on a play that you get DPI, it doesn't 1211 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:20,560 count as a target. Yeah. 1212 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,240 That's right, 4. 14 targets and five penalties. 1213 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,600 I mean, obviously he is the best. 1214 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,840 Like, I'm not, I'm not. You know, it's so funny. 1215 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,480 Like people are so beholden to the moment. 1216 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,720 Like Liam sent the tweet about Jamar Chase this morning. 1217 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,480 And it's like you, sometimes you do have to zoom out on the 1218 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,480 chart. There's a reason that Jamar 1219 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,000 Chase has more 3 for 30s in his career now than Justin Jefferson 1220 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,400 will ever have. Partly it's that his coach is an 1221 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,040 idiot. Zach Taylor is the worst. 1222 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,600 Come on man. All right, final, final panic 1223 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,840 button here. Pat, who you got? 1224 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,320 This one's probably overdue, but you know, if everyone got mad at 1225 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,720 me when I took Rashad White a few weeks because I wasn't 1226 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,360 drafting him and I was tempted to take Travis ETN, who's tank 1227 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,400 big sweet back up now who I'm not drafting, who I who I didn't 1228 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,200 draft at all, but Jerry Judy, I was drafting. 1229 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,880 I did draft. I drafted. 1230 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,360 I saw Jerry Judy's. Name and I clicked it. 1231 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,520 I clicked Jerry Judy Guys and Sacrilegious the entire time in 1232 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,840 our chat was like, Jerry Judy is not even a football player. 1233 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,080 This guy gives up as soon as he steps out on the field. 1234 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,720 Basically, imagine Steve Smith's attitude towards Jerry Judy. 1235 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,480 That's that's what sacrilegious was weighing in very regularly 1236 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,240 on Jerry Judy just completely correct. 1237 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,960 And I still drafted him. I still drafted Jerry Judy guys 1238 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,320 doesn't feel good. Pulled up his stat line from 1239 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,280 last week. He had three targets, one 1240 01:03:55,280 --> 01:04:02,240 reception, 16 yards. This man has 1.09 yards per 1241 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,480 outrun, somehow outperforming Amari Cooper. 1242 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,880 Yeah, I was gonna say in the context of a Deshaun Watson LED 1243 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,480 offense that's actually pretty good. 1244 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,360 I'm I'm bullish on. Here, yeah, Amari Cooper's only 1245 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,360 at 11 yards per outrun. So, you know, this can double as 1246 01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:20,360 a panic button on on Amari, I guess, but I think Amari will 1247 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,560 give us a couple big weeks and and Jerry Judy just just won't. 1248 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:24,640 He just won't. That was. 1249 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,920 That's just a total. Just wait until just, yeah, wait 1250 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,280 until Judy gets in shape, dude, just like he's been on the 1251 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,760 treadmill. Like wait until he gets 1252 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,880 conditioned. I Kareem, I wouldn't. 1253 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,680 I wouldn't give up so easily. On Jerry Judy this did you see 1254 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,000 there's supposed to be a route runner. 1255 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,480 Remember what what happened? Like, buddy, I, I've been out, 1256 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,320 I've been out on Jerry Judy, like from the moment I watched 1257 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,960 him play in the NFL. He he just is one of those guys 1258 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,600 who has he's got no dog. I mean really like I think he's 1259 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,760 probably very good, but he just like the the dog levels are. 1260 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,240 You know what he is? He's the sky more of Jacoby 1261 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,760 Myers. No, that's not how it's done. 1262 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,240 He's the. He's the. 1263 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:09,160 He's like the sky more of. He wasn't drafted high enough, 1264 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,280 yeah, but his game is. But his game's very much dico. 1265 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,160 Admires. Yeah, it's like he's the he's. 1266 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,520 The Sky Moore of CD Lambs. Sky Moore. 1267 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,400 Sky Moore of CD Lambs. Yeah, there you go. 1268 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,440 Yeah, exactly it. Yeah. 1269 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I actually I wanted, I 1270 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,880 almost did tank Dallas my panic button, but I wanted to address 1271 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,040 this real quick. I'm actually not really 1272 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,480 panicking about Tank Dill because I think the CJ Stroud 1273 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,520 plays like AC minus NFL quarterback and they win anyways 1274 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,680 and Stephane Diggs leads the team and targets. 1275 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,000 It's like it just doesn't feel that tenable to keep giving 1276 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,040 Diggs all these targets. And for like, isn't Stroud just 1277 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,720 going to start to play better? Yeah, I. 1278 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,560 I think so. I think so. 1279 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,560 I don't think it's panic button on Dell. 1280 01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,840 I will say the amount of times I had to get in arguments with 1281 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,680 people this offseason who want to do the contrarian like, oh, 1282 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,560 tank Tank Dell is actually the better wide receiver here than 1283 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,760 Nico Collins that let's be. More than Steph Diggs, I had 1284 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,680 always had such a hard time with flipping digs. 1285 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,320 I never got that. Like I went back because I 1286 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,480 thought I was missing something because everyone's like, oh, he 1287 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,280 was like out projecting him when they're on the field. 1288 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,200 He was better. Like I I look back at the 1289 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,360 numbers and like roll the whole article about it and like that 1290 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,760 just wasn't true. Like Nick Pawns was like clearly 1291 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,320 out targeting. Not clearly, but he was out 1292 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,680 targeting Tank Dell when they're on the field together last year. 1293 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:34,280 He's also 7 inches taller, faster, 40 lbs heavier. 1294 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,480 Like come on, Like what was that contrarian take? 1295 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,080 Can we, can we admit that that was a terrible contrarian? 1296 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,400 Take it doesn't doesn't feel like a great one now does it? 1297 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,040 No. It. 1298 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,960 Was a bad. I was in on Dell for sure, but I 1299 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,720 was definitely. That guy for a little while. 1300 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,200 I was in on Dell. I'm not saying I was out on 1301 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,960 Dell, I was just I would just get triggered again. 1302 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,920 I just create these like straw men in my head did. 1303 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,960 Dell have the title. Did Dell? 1304 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,800 Can we can we bring on, can we bring on an injury expert and 1305 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,280 just ask them if it's good to not break your leg? 1306 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,800 I feel like breaking your leg is maybe worse than. 1307 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,320 I feel like weirdly. Believe. 1308 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,480 The injury, actually, it's always tell me it's good when 1309 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,840 you break your leg. Like they told me it was good 1310 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,440 when tell me Pollard broke his leg. 1311 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,120 Don't worry, when Mark Andrews broke his leg, I've heard enough 1312 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,360 of this. Like it seems like breaking your 1313 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,840 leg is actually pretty bad. That's, that's like what I'm 1314 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:31,200 starting to think, and I'm not a doctor, but it does seem like 1315 01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,160 the guys who have broken their legs, who were not as explosive 1316 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,400 returning from their broken leg. But that's just my you know. 1317 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,560 Yeah, again, we're not doctors. Yeah, we're not doctors, so we 1318 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,160 can't really say it with confidence, but. 1319 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,240 I would prefer as a layman, purely as a layman, the guys who 1320 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,560 haven't broken their legs I think at this point. 1321 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,480 Yeah, I do actually like the the injury doctors. 1322 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,920 I think there's a lot of them that do good work. 1323 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,600 I just feel like sometimes like this is not a shot at them. 1324 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:01,440 Like we just. Don't. 1325 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,000 This is not a shot at them. I'm I'm purely no. 1326 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:05,600 Joking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1327 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,360 We're clearly joking around. Just like an earnest point 1328 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,040 though, is like we clearly do not have all the information and 1329 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,600 all these injuries and like I feel like sometimes I just don't 1330 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,840 bake in like the downside risk of like something unknown, bad 1331 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,600 that we don't know about the injury. 1332 01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:22,560 Like that just seems to happen way more than we want to admit. 1333 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,120 Like this season's been extreme in that. 1334 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,319 But like the Kyle Pitts MCL injury, for instance, like 1335 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:32,359 clearly was not just like a run-of-the-mill MCL injury, but 1336 01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:36,640 like the risk. Honestly, Sam, that injury might 1337 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,600 not have like even happens. Like he's totally healthy now. 1338 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,279 Like I don't think like, did the MCL affect him at all? 1339 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,880 Like he's healthy now. Yeah, I don't know. 1340 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,680 He's. Got the lowest open score in the 1341 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,920 league? I'm not sure. 1342 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,000 I don't know, I mean, he might have always just been bad, but 1343 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,920 I'm just saying like in general, like fuck, I guess I'm just 1344 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,800 tired of getting burned on these return from injury guys that 1345 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,160 just turned the dust. It's so. 1346 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,279 I really wish, yeah. Because, you know, Mark Andrews 1347 01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:06,720 has essentially been benched for Charlie Kohler, and it feels 1348 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:11,439 like he he, it feels like him breaking his leg might have 1349 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,120 contributed to that, you know? Hasn't been benched for Charlie 1350 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,600 Cole. OK, just let's let's fictional. 1351 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,279 Just been outperformed by him, but not fictional. 1352 01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:22,439 Universe, he hasn't been best. He's just on the bench while 1353 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,800 Kohler catches sick, plays down the sideline and then scores 1354 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:31,160 touchdowns, let's say. Hypothetically, Andrews was the 1355 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,800 one who caught that long Kolor catch and run and the touchdown. 1356 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:41,040 So he has like 22 PPR points or whatever is the we're so back 1357 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:47,040 like spiking it in the nerds face or or is it like Kyle Pitts 1358 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,439 where Kyle Pitts just had what do you have 7 for 78 or 1359 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,160 something and everyone's like. Yeah. 1360 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:58,680 What, what I like I, I tend to think I, I probably like can 1361 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,720 like with Pitts. I'm like, I'm not playing Pitts 1362 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,600 this week against the Panthers. Like I mean, you start him where 1363 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,400 you have him, but like, he's not back. 1364 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,360 No, it took again, we don't have to turn this into a Kyle Pitts 1365 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,280 thing because people just probably hate my Kyle Pitts 1366 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,600 takes at this point. But it took him 55 that's 1367 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,800 attempts and Kyle Pitts still had less targets than Ray Ray 1368 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,680 McLeod, less targets than Darnell Mooney, that that's been 1369 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,680 the case the whole season. So. 1370 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,240 He had like a 12% target chair with yeah, what was his target 1371 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,520 chair? It was like 13, like no joke 1372 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,440 like. 13 was it really? Wow. 1373 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:38,120 Yeah, OK, sorry, 15% which on the season it's at 14%. 1374 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,280 So yeah, it wasn't any different than it's been all season. 1375 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:48,880 It was just Falcons threw a ton, which, yeah, but anyways. 1376 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,680 And here on a positive note, on Kyle Pitts, we got. 1377 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,600 To get It didn't break his leg. Pitts did not break his leg it. 1378 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:57,400 Didn't break his leg. And that's foolish. 1379 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:58,760 He just. Wants to like it. 1380 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:12,400 All right guys, we'll be back next week for another in season 1381 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,840 ADP chasing other things coming up on the ship chasing channel 1382 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:20,440 this week we got stat chasing as always. 1383 01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:25,720 That's comes on Tuesday nights with Draco and Zach. 1384 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,600 Really fun show their last time I checked they're doing like 1385 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:33,080 three hour, 4 hour long shows. Just truly sick, sick stuff 1386 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,000 going on there. But really informative. 1387 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,280 You guys should definitely check that out and then Pat anything 1388 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:42,720 for the ship cast this Thursday. Any announcements on guests or 1389 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,160 anything like that? Are you guys still figuring it 1390 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,360 out? Still figuring it out, but yeah, 1391 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,240 ship cast Thursday. Watch along. 1392 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,680 We had. I mean, it's pretty epic. 1393 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,120 This last one was about as bad a beat as I could. 1394 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,520 Imagine it was really, really bad. 1395 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,400 Yeah, really. Bad. 1396 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,880 But the beautiful part of it is that many, and I know not 1397 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,880 everyone, and I apologize if you're not one of the people who 1398 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,320 who benefited, but many people who did tail us on it. 1399 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:12,520 We got the the Bucky rushing line 1 yard lower than us and of 1400 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,440 course, we lost by 1 yard. So the silver lining was that 1401 01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:18,600 many of the the ship cast viewers actually binged while 1402 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,960 they watched us tilt our faces off, which is a pretty sweet 1403 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,600 spot to be in. You know, you're like, I've got 1404 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,200 this winning thickum. And this is the very 1405 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,760 entertaining as these guys who gave who gave me the pics are 1406 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,320 losing. So we'll be back the sequel, 1407 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,880 hopefully with better results for us next, next Thursday, this 1408 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,400 Thursday. Awesome. 1409 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,360 And Davis, I know, I know you're not streaming today about 1410 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,200 anything else going on on your channel or anything otherwise 1411 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,600 you want to talk about. Yeah, I'll be live. 1412 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,800 I'll be live every day this week at some point. 1413 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,640 So make sure, make sure, make sure you subscribe there. 1414 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,400 And yeah, all the good, all the good stuff. 1415 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,400 Awesome. Yes, Yeah, I'll have my waivers 1416 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,320 video on Monday. Article this week on established 1417 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:07,800 Iran. Same stuff as always. 1418 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,720 Other than that, we will see you guys next week.