1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:07,240 Hi there, Mike Shope here from Warming Buffalo Combine Week 3 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,560 cones 40 times. Teams trying to evaluate 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,560 prospects by asking them things like what they like on a salad, 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,120 late night information trading at whatever that steakhouse is 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,920 in Indianapolis. So saddle up, Monday, noon, 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Eastern Time. Not much to play with yet from 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,040 the combat, but there is a little bit who's going to throw, 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,200 who's not that's starting to leak out, and we might get more 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,760 information as we go through the show. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,040 We'll also look at what's happening in the first round of 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,760 big board drafts. What, if anything, doesn't make 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,760 sense? What kind of draft slots we like 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,040 more than others? At this point? 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,760 There's a lot of speculation around. 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,640 Or there's new, perhaps speculation around Matthew 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,120 Stafford and what's going to happen with him, with our 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,600 heroes. Pat Perain is back. 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,080 Davis Maddock. Both have dogs named Murphy. 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Oddly, I might show up. My dog is named Margo. 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,440 Before you ask, this is Pip Chasing February 24th, 2025. 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,080 ADP chasing is for when you watch ship chasing, you go these 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,080 guys are just football guys and the targets for outrun leagues. 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,280 That's going to be really nice actually back in if it's Austin 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,640 A. Stare into our crystal ball. 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,520 close your eyes. You know all your entries are 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,400 going to lose. Anyway. 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Yeah, that's fair. This is a Dusvan show. 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,560 It's. Anti cabal. 29 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,400 It's anti the best ball thought leader. 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,680 I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a 31 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,560 lot of both of these guys. It's the most disgusting thing 32 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:33,600 you. Can make but man, oh what 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,000 happened here. It's not me this time. 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,560 OK, There he is. There he is. 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Davis, did you leave and come back? 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,120 I had to reset real quick my. Head OK. 37 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,200 It was not. Because I had, I had the 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,360 outlines up and these are the wrong outlines, but I had the 39 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,720 OK, these are the right out. I was like, I got the I remember 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,400 to get the outlines up before we came back. 41 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,960 I'm crushing it, right? Now you're doing great. 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,200 Gone. That was me. 43 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:55,960 That was. Me. 44 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,280 That was me, not you. That was. 45 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Me. Not me this time either. 46 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,760 If if team asked you the college prospect this week, what you 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,720 like on a salad, are you better off saying you know, sprouts, 48 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,080 broccoli, light dressing if any? Or do you just go like I'd never 49 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,200 eat 1 Al Michael style? But what's the? 50 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,400 Correct answer is fried chicken I. 51 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,520 Feel like that? I feel like that'll crack up a 52 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,360 football guy. You know. 53 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:23,680 Fried chicken is the best thing to put on a salad, rather 54 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,760 clearly. Or anything else you know now 55 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,960 show how important is it to you a year a year removed that Keon 56 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Coleman's really funny is that is that still it was never. 57 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,760 Important to me. It was never important to me. 58 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,600 It's one of so many Bills, things that are important to 59 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,920 fans that are completely unimportant to me. 60 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:44,560 Like who Josh Allen's girlfriend is. 61 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,160 I couldn't care less. Like, I just, I want to. 62 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,920 I want Matt to. Elevate his draft stock. 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,560 He was like in there cracking up the room. 64 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,080 Yeah. I don't know if he goes second 65 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,960 round if he wasn't. I want Matt Harmon to think Keon 66 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Coleman is worth it, not Michael Che. 67 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,680 Like I never watch. You know. 68 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:00,560 Yeah, that's a fair. I want it to make sense on the 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,920 field. Otherwise I don't care. 70 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:03,880 You. That's fair. 71 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,200 Non derogatory. That's fair. 72 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,960 It's it's early for that, but we're off and rolling out for 73 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,000 sure anyway. For me, I would just be honest, 74 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,720 feel like that's the right answer to any question. 75 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,520 So croutons, whatnot. I mean, come fried fried chicken 76 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:24,040 is the honest and and yeah, I mean, I order a salad about the 77 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,600 regular here with fried chicken on it and it's awesome. 78 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,960 Interesting. Well. 79 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,480 Croutons, come on. Croutons, come on, we're already 80 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,280 metal day. Three. 81 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,640 That's a day three answer. Right. 82 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,280 No, but but a really good salad. A really good salad that when 83 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,440 you leave it and you ate it, it's got to have croutons on it. 84 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,760 Oh my God, croutons. Won't keep. 85 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,200 They won't keep. Yeah, Phil. 86 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,160 Yes, you want, you need that crunch, Pat. 87 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,640 Yeah, what? What am I going to do about 88 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,560 stale bread? Oh my God. 89 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,160 Seasoned stale bread. This is stale. 90 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,520 Bread Elite, Take Corinne. I think sure, like if you're 91 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,040 getting a Caesar, it should probably have croutons. 92 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,720 But if you're asking me like odd thing in a salad, that must be 93 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,920 in all my salads. I'm not picking croutons, man. 94 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,680 You know, I'm going to, I'm going to live a little. 95 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,640 I'm a little little, put some fried chicken in there. 96 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,279 Salad topping draft Coming to an ADP chasing or WGR show near 97 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,040 you? Red Peppers. 98 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,600 Davis, come on. But go with me here, Red 99 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:21,839 Peppers. If you're if you're going with 100 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,800 with more of a salad thing, I would say sunflower seeds are 101 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,560 also excellent. You can get kale kale Caesar 102 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,800 with sunflower seeds. You don't even need croutons in. 103 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,640 That I I do both brother. So like maybe once a month I go 104 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,040 to Whole Foods and do like the build a salad cost like $27.00. 105 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,200 It's one it's literally one of the most outrageous things on 106 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,360 earth, but you have to you got to get you got to get the 107 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,200 croutons. You got to get they have really 108 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,920 good grilled. Crouton too, yeah. 109 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:51,080 But you also have the sunflower seeds. 110 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,400 Since the mandate came from a pie. 111 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Since the mandate came from a pie to make the show longer, 112 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,440 there's a little bit more room to talk salad toppings. 113 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,840 Rusty says fried chicken salad. Hold the lettuce, tomatoes, 114 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:04,200 cucumbers and veggies. Rusty gets it. 115 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,960 That is the correct way to eat a salad. 116 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,200 And BBQ sauce. If you told me a Caesar was 117 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,560 going to have anchovies or croutons, I'm taking the 118 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,520 anchovies. Sure, sure. 119 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,240 OK, all right, so so you we're already how can croutons be the 120 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,240 must have if if I just talked you into. 121 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,520 I just, I don't have salads that often because I don't like to 122 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,080 make them at home because the the kits you get, the dressing 123 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,840 is too high fat. But if you're going to have a 124 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:34,680 salad like this is the, I guess maybe this is where the wires 125 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,240 are crossed. Salad is not a healthy food 126 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:39,640 really in general. It's like the salads that most 127 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,000 people eat is very high in fat, very low in protein. 128 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,960 So I'm thinking of this as like a treat. 129 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,680 So I'm like. Not mine, Davis. 130 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,120 I want crush on. Anchovies are the anchovies are 131 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,600 like the first tight end in drafts to try to get us back on 132 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,240 the road here. Like if you go to a nice 133 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,360 restaurant, that Caesar salad, you, you can assume it's going 134 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,560 to have an anchovy paste. My wife is a vegetarian. 135 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,720 She's not getting the, the Caesar salad at a nice 136 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,600 restaurant at a lot of places. You know, they, they, they might 137 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,680 even ask you, but they're not going to worry about it. 138 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,080 So that's kind of like, you know what, in a draft, that would be 139 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,320 a sneaky pick. You know, maybe somebody else in 140 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,800 the room forgot about it. Yeah, it's a guy like this 141 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:23,320 metaphor a lot. A bad dressing is very Jake 142 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,240 Ferguson where it's like, sure, it's on, it's on the salad, it's 143 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,120 there, but it's not really doing. 144 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,800 It's not really doing not. Doing anything? 145 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,400 No, that's right. That's right. 146 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:35,720 Anyway, yeah. Francis enjoys that salad is bad 147 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,400 for you. Hot take. 148 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,000 It's just like, what is, What does Francis think salad is? 149 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,680 Does he think that that's. Vegetables, right? 150 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,680 It's it's vegetables. Right. 151 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,640 So vegetables coated in monounsaturated fats. 152 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,120 It's like I'm not. It's shouldn't be on me to tell 153 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,840 you this, Francis. Davis, should you? 154 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,760 Just do this. This is a conversation I've been 155 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,000 waiting to have with you. So a year ago at this time, I 156 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,520 started on a weight loss thing and I lost 30 lbs in seven 157 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,120 weeks. And it was with a, a program 158 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,720 called Awaken 180I do ads for them, Full disclosure. 159 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,960 And, you know, I'm sort of learning like, what do I have to 160 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,840 cut out? What can I get away with? 161 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,720 What's and one thing they told me was eat all the salad you 162 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,400 want, eat all the lettuce, you know, fresh mushrooms, eat all 163 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,360 the, there's no calories in it, right? 164 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Like it's just sort of like free You're, you're filling yourself 165 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,320 up without, you know, eating. Because it's fiber. 166 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,840 It's fiber. It's it's smashes the 167 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,320 vegetables. But I I'm totally with that in 168 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:38,200 my current thing, I don't track fruit at all in my SO like if I 169 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,480 eat a banana like I had an apple before this, I didn't put it in 170 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,800 my macro tracker. It's like 150 calories, but 171 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:43,800 there's. A lot, dude, I would I would 172 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,160 just be buying. I would bring bringing in like 173 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,760 suitcases of berries and this be. 174 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,640 Like I'm going to track. These so, but the berries are 175 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,960 like bananas even too apples even maybe too like they're a 176 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,840 little bit too rich in that on that program anyway. 177 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,480 So I wasn't eating very much fruit. 178 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,560 But you know lettuce, Pete, OK. Pete is a health conscious guy 179 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,960 here and he's telling there's there's. 180 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,120 So there's a clear miscommunication happening here. 181 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,080 It is not the concept of salad that is bad. 182 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,320 It's the salad that people eat that they think is healthy for 183 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,160 them and they they slop ranch dressing on it. 184 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,080 You're OK. I can picture the salad it's 185 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,960 got. It's like it's it's some romaine 186 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,520 lettuce, like a carrot, couple cherry tomatoes, ranch dressing. 187 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,200 You, you're literally seeing it in your mind and people are 188 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,080 like, that's a healthy snack. And it's like, no, it's not. 189 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,200 Worse iceberg make it worse. Actually, just go watch like 190 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,520 you're going to get the big the big wedge, you know, you get a 191 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,640 fast food salad. It's just a big clump of 192 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,440 lettuce, is it? The most good salad if your 193 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,080 lettuce doesn't have a color is that does that mean it's 194 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,480 healthier or not? Yeah, darker the better. 195 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,280 Water. If you if you, if you're doing, 196 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,600 you know, good lettuce, spinach, kale, whatever, some vegetables, 197 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,560 some grilled chicken breast, apple cider vinegar and like 198 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:01,560 olive oil dressing with like salt and pepper. 199 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Delicious. That sounds good. 200 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,800 Healthy, really good. Can I throw an egg? 201 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,120 Can I throw a little? Of course, of course you could 202 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,720 throw it in. But but people are the, it's, 203 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,680 it's these are not all one thing. 204 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,280 You know, the salad that you get from McDonald's as someone or, 205 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,120 or the, you know, the classic is the salad you get from the pizza 206 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,920 place. That's like half a ledge of 207 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,480 Wettis. Yeah, yeah. 208 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,400 They don't even like stop it, don't just. 209 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,280 Give you oh, that's what I'm saying. 210 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,240 You just pick it up like this and stuff it in that little 211 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,480 plastic box A. 100% that cherry tomato. 212 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:35,880 That with a cherry tomato, some string cheese and and and and 213 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,360 ranch dressing is not a health. Food, the toy and the Happy Meal 214 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,480 is more nutritious. It's better for you than the 215 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,080 best. We don't want here. 216 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,600 What is the answer? What is the answer? 217 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,800 If the if the team, if the Minnesota Vikings ask you, you 218 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,440 know what you like to eat at restaurants. 219 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,960 Are you going just like full carnivore or you're just like, 220 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Oh well, you know, I care about my body. 221 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,760 Honestly, it depends on how much ball, you know, because if you 222 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,040 don't know ball, I think you want to get into the discussion 223 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,400 that we just had that took up your whole interview. 224 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,080 You know, they left a good impression. 225 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,200 You know, we kind of came to a consensus there at the end on 226 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,040 sale. We had some other questions for 227 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,480 you like we're out of time about. 228 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,680 Which plays your team was running? 229 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,840 There's so much fun. You can have with our system, 230 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,440 but we ran out of time. Yeah, those interviews, I mean, 231 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,000 they're all just abjectly hilarious and meaningless, are 232 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,480 they not? Is there anything you want to 233 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,480 know? Don't have you guys read up on 234 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,440 like how the interview, this is a job interview as much as it is 235 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,960 or anything else like a prospect, how it's just actually 236 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,160 counterproductive because why? Isn't it all just four times 237 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,920 Like why aren't you just like being like, OK, we wanted this 238 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,120 like what do you prefer? Like what's your if we ran this 239 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:53,040 if you saw this defensive coverage pre snap and you're in 240 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,920 this you you know, we had planned, you know, ahead of time 241 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,800 called this play. What are you assuming? 242 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,760 If it's an option route, you know you're going to be doing or 243 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:00,480 whatever. Da, da, da. 244 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,520 Yeah. Just like these guys, knowledge 245 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,800 of ball, you know? Exactly. 246 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,600 If you had 15 minutes with, it doesn't have to be a 247 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,640 quarterback, it would vary by position. 248 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,200 But if you had 15 minutes with a, with one of these quarterback 249 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,840 prospects, if you had 15 minutes with Jackson Dart, you're not 250 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,600 asking about food, I hope. I mean, if that comes out, it's 251 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,000 all about your. System and what? 252 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,920 It's like, it's like these bullshit, like personality 253 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,760 questions, you know, they're trying to, they're trying to be 254 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,360 like, what's what's the scheme, What's the chemistry going to 255 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,440 be? Is he going to get along with 256 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,680 the coach? Do we like you know? 257 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,720 That type. Of is he a leader? 258 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Yeah, Yeah. We should talk about the 259 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,360 quarterbacks though, because let's do it. 260 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,960 We got 2 updates that are meaningful, 1 I think you guys 261 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,760 probably haven't even seen yet. It just happened. 262 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,680 Shadur is not going to throw. He's going to wait to throw 263 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:49,400 until the Colorado pro day. You know who else isn't going to 264 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,920 throw? Can't worry. 265 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,840 Really not going. To throw and crane, you're doing 266 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,520 the windhorst. I'm doing the reverse windhorst 267 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,200 on you. Shadur's not going to throw 268 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,040 because he doesn't have to. Shadur is not going to throw 269 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,120 because I I think. That's. 270 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:08,360 That's my reading. So I was listening to Bruegler 271 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,200 the other day and he was like, he's not like Shadur's not a 272 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,360 lock for the top 10. I think he's he's not. 273 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,040 When you Bryce Young didn't throw and he's and the team 274 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,840 still traded up for one, that's a different situation. 275 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,360 Now also it's the same situation because Bryce Young doesn't have 276 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,480 a super strong arm and neither does does Shadour. 277 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,160 But if a guy like that's a guy that doesn't need to throw, 278 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,960 Shadour kind of needs to throw. Like if he wants to go #1 he 279 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,640 needs to throw. If he wants to go #3 he might 280 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,000 need to throw. Like it. 281 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,000 This is a dude who's like, I don't need to throw to go first 282 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,200 round, sure. To go like top 15, probably top 283 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,440 20 anyway, sure. I. 284 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,800 Don't even know, but maybe he's already, maybe he and his agent 285 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,720 and his his dad have already had conversations with the spot 286 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,680 where he wants to go and he's like, I don't care. 287 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,320 Maybe he doesn't want to be. I think Occam's razors is he has 288 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,400 a kind of a weak arm because he's not being cocked up as a as 289 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,560 a, you know, it's not like he's the clear cut. 290 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,240 He's not even the QB one in the class. 291 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,600 Like how can you not need to throw if Cam Ward's ahead of you 292 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,400 on like every bore? That's not going to change, is 293 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,640 why, like, yeah, Tennessee is going with Carter. 294 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,960 Certainly not going to change if he doesn't do stuff like throw. 295 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,560 What like what is the? What is trying to make it? 296 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:26,600 Change. Risk reward of that like 11 is 297 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,400 defense, 2 is ward like that's I think. 298 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,480 If you have a, if you have the confidence in your arm, then the 299 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,560 risk reward is strongly in your favor because you could maybe 300 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,960 flip Cam ward and go with #1. I want well. 301 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,920 If you have a crappy arm, then the risk reward is in. 302 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,000 Because who, who wouldn't want to go to Cleveland, right? 303 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,080 If you're a quarterback prospect, who wouldn't want that 304 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,680 to flip that and go to Cleveland? 305 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,360 I mean, I don't care about that if I'm Sanders. 306 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,360 It's actually going to Cleveland or New York if you're a 307 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,760 quarterback. Actually, right now, weirdly is 308 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,440 not that bad because you go to Cleveland, you have Ninjoku, you 309 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,720 have Judy. It's like the basis of like not 310 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,840 the worst passing game. And Tillman, Tillman was kind of 311 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,000 like not that bad. You get to go to New York, 312 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,240 you're like, I'm just going to throw crossers to Malik 313 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Neighbors for the next 4 years. He's going to make me rich. 314 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,240 So either of those spots, I think you're fine. 315 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,200 And what this is? This would be my wind horse Pat 316 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,720 to reverse to reverse. Reverse or horseman? 317 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,520 The two teams who desperately need a quarterback are picking 318 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,160 at 2:00 and 3:00. You dare them play chicken with 319 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,440 them to take Travis Hunter, play chicken with the New York Giants 320 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,920 to take Travis Hunter and run back another year of. 321 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,320 Who would even Well, I think I think you're you're if you're 322 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,360 chador, the scenario that I would be worried about would be 323 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,760 you go you reverse when horsing me. 324 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,960 I'm just trying to fit in, you know, I'm trying to get along. 325 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,240 Go ahead. I, I, I have the point you guys 326 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,880 need to be making, but you, you guys keep talking for a while. 327 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,320 I'll tell you that what you're what you're missing. 328 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,240 All right, let me, let me, let me just say that if you're 329 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,040 chador it, it's pretty realistic that the Titans go ahead and 330 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,320 take Abdul Carter, who's the guy who should go number one in this 331 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,800 class. He he plays edge, he's an elite 332 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:15,720 edge prospect and it's like he's going to have a huge impact, not 333 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,000 a quarterback level impact, but given like the certainty of him 334 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,360 versus the certainty of the quarterbacks, I would take Abdul 335 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,520 Carter. Then you go to number 2, the 336 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,360 Browns don't want to be investing a ton at quarterback 337 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,160 right now and the roster is not like ready to compete with a 338 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,000 quarterback or even that great of A and it's not terrible to 339 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,520 your point with the weapons, but like it's it's kind of 340 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,720 deteriorating. It's a deteriorating roster 341 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,120 with, you know, Garrett demanding a trade and all that. 342 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,560 They could easily take care of quarterback with like Kirk 343 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Cousins or something, you know, work out something where the the 344 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,480 Falcons are covering most of his salary and they send some some 345 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,760 pick to get him off the roster, right? 346 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Cousins. Cousins is coming to Cleveland. 347 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,480 Now the answer is, is he coming to Cleveland as a bridge? 348 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,880 Is he Andy Dalton with Justin Fields or is he coming on his 349 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,720 own? I don't think it's the Browns. 350 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,520 You can have Watson eating up the salary. 351 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,560 They're eating right. Spend this number two overall 352 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,400 pick on a quarterback and have like Cousins as a bridge like 353 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,720 it. At what point is like one of 354 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,640 these guys you're like, well, Shadora, we're moving you to 355 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,520 cornerback because. We don't have any. 356 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,640 So the the insider, the insider chatter is that Watson's 357 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,840 contract becomes obviously the worst cut of all time. 358 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,360 But cut a bowl after this season? 359 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,760 After this. Season that it's it's as bad as 360 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,840 it possibly could be. It's it's New Orleans St. level 361 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,920 cap detonation, but it is conceivably you can field 53 362 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,040 players on your roster after cutting him. 363 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,240 After after the year. Yeah. 364 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Right, right. But it's just I could see, I 365 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,560 could see them ease like if it's pretty easy for me to be in the 366 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,280 brown shoes and go, you know what, we could really use a face 367 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,960 of the franchise that isn't Deshaun Watson. 368 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,400 Let's take Travis Hunter. Let's take Travis Hunter and 369 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,240 bridge. Kirk's a bridge, but he's a 370 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,720 bridge to after we cut Deshaun next, you know, into 2026. 371 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,440 He gets us through 2025 and you don't need. 372 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,000 Three, Pat, you don't need Cousins for that. 373 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,520 There are 10 veteran quarterbacks that sure cost 374 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,200 anything. You could go with it and you 375 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,319 would. They already did Tyrod Taylor 376 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:25,400 when Mayfield was there, but he's perfect. 377 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,920 You know somebody like that or Jones, you know that's. 378 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,080 Well, you want to do Jameis Jameis, right? 379 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,080 He's right there. Yeah, that's right. 380 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,320 If you want a vet you can just take Tyler Shock in the second 381 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:38,200 round and then. You've got your, you've got your 382 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:38,880 veteran. Leader. 383 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,280 We will get to the I've got takes on Tyler Shock this. 384 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,880 Is going to be your own way. This is all to say this is the 385 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,200 longest longest walk ever. But Cam Ward could be available 386 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,240 to the Giants at 3. So if your if your goal is 387 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Shadoris is like oh just go to the Giants, whatever who cares? 388 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,040 Well, Cam Ward might go to the Giants. 389 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,120 You know, like it's not as simple as that. 390 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:02,320 Like you have to, you have to be trying to like keep your draft 391 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,200 stock as high as possible. If you want to go in the top 392 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,840 three or top even, you know, OK, do you want to go to the Raiders 393 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,120 at six? Because you might be going to 394 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:12,240 the Raiders at six. The quarterback The Week 12025 395 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,880 quarterback of the New York Giants will be Matthew Stafford. 396 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,520 That's the buzz. That's the buzz right now. 397 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:24,840 So his wife's brother was hired by Brian Dabel, who was in 398 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,400 Buffalo with him. If you guys remember the I'm 399 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:33,000 sure you do Tyler Dunn's, you know, magnum opus on McDermott a 400 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,480 couple of years ago. One big it wasn't the thing with 401 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,040 911, but the 11 big element of that was how the receivers, the 402 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,640 players all got together to celebrate. 403 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,320 Chad Hall, who was the receivers coach for that team. 404 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,960 Gabe Davis had come off the four touchdown playoff game and they 405 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,960 loved him. And what Tyler wrote in part was 406 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,080 just like that. McDermott resented that. 407 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,280 And so he goes. He's not the Giants receivers 408 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,800 coach. I did a quick search on this 409 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,680 this morning when I saw was it Peter Schrager talking about 410 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,080 Stafford? And like Chad Hall received, 411 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,120 he's not the Giant, he's the assistant quarterback coach for 412 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:15,640 Dabel and Joe Shane, who was the assistant GM in Buffalo with the 413 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,400 Giants. And I don't know, like they 414 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,880 might not know yet who they like of the rookies, but it's New 415 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,080 York and they've been nowhere forever. 416 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,720 Doesn't it work, Stafford? Wouldn't they do it Dabol? 417 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,000 Like sort of on the on the Cliff with the Giants? 418 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,400 What they do, Dabol would. Dabol would definitely. 419 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,080 Do it? Depends. 420 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:39,240 Probably aligned with asking. Prices, I think like so Stafford 421 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,880 wants a new deal. That's why this is even on the 422 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,160 table. Stafford wants a new deal. 423 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,120 Rams don't want to give a new deal to a guy who's what, 37? 424 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,680 So but then it's it comes out with like, well, what are the 425 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,840 Rams looking for in a trade? They want like a first. 426 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,400 So like, what are you giving up to get Stafford if you're giving 427 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:03,360 up like a second and it's 2O? Change it's 2O3. 2O3 OK. 428 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,520 I mean, I don't it's probably like where the Giants are and 429 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,600 like what? Like as far as team building, 430 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,040 that's bad because the Giants aren't going to like they're not 431 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,760 going to like win the Super Bowl with Stafford. 432 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,480 It's it's like you might as well build for the future. 433 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,600 As far as Joe Shane and Brian Dabel trying to trying to save 434 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,000 their jobs, that's like a reasonable enough move. 435 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,200 But the Rams, I believe management would endorse that. 436 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,720 I really think so. Like the way the Giants. 437 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Make that though, because. The. 438 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,600 Record's crazy for the Rams. Like the they're, they're in the 439 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,640 wilderness now at quarterback in a in probably the worst year I 440 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,760 can remember to be in the wilderness at quarterback. 441 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,200 Bad quarterback class. Until they get until they get 442 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,080 Jackson Dart and he's just. Going next? 443 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,880 I thought you're going to say Tyler Shuck. 444 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,360 Oh well, I mean, Tyler Shuck is basically Matthew Stafford's 445 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:49,480 age. They're they're peers. 446 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,360 It's the same workout. Darnold would be funny for the 447 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:56,000 Rams, having just beaten him twice, but I don't know. 448 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,800 We don't. Give that deal to Darnold, but 449 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,080 yeah. As well. 450 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,400 Someone's going to give it. To him, he's younger. 451 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,920 Pepper Tony as Pepper Tony mentions any chatter about 452 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,960 Stafford, we are contractually obligated to mention his wife, 453 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,400 who seems to be the precipitous here Zach brings up the real 454 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,040 question, which is that Kelly Stafford is is dyed in the wool 455 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,400 the the rumor is basically that like they're they're she's tired 456 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,440 of woke of. This is a misconception of of 457 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,440 New York though. New York is not. 458 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,200 Whoa. New York is like the richest 459 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,360 people in the world live in New York. 460 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,000 They could live on the. I don't mean how far there's 461 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,840 some of the richest people in the world living in the metal. 462 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Yeah, there's. I mean, I mean her brother. 463 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,920 North Jersey, There are very conservative pockets of North 464 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,560 Jersey. She'd be right at home there. 465 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,400 Her brother is the assistant quarterback coach. 466 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,600 Her brother is the assistant quarterback coach of the team. 467 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,560 And you know, we did mention, and this is also where we 468 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,040 mentioned that Joe Burrow is older than Darnold. 469 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,280 OK, go on. Oh yeah. 470 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,920 That's why the Rams do it, because he's 10 years, He's 10 471 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,280 years younger than Stafford. That's why they do it. 472 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,600 Yeah, there's some, there's some rich Democrats in New York for 473 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,240 sure. But. 474 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,320 Column column limousine Column colum Limousine liberals. 475 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,520 But if Kelly signs. Off on it, Let. 476 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,520 Me let me mention here. Money's never that woke. 477 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,160 I live in New York. By the way, money tends not to 478 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,360 be that woke. I live in New York. 479 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:22,760 Tends to be about money. North, You live in upstate New 480 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,080 York. I live on the western border of 481 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,440 New York, but they tell me that this is New York, so I live in 482 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,200 New York. They. 483 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,440 Tell me. Bills fans get very upset when 484 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,080 it's the the subject of New York football teams comes up. 485 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,640 Josh Allen, one of my first favorite things about him was 486 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,840 when he was on a press conference with Jets media and 487 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,760 like, imagine if you had been drafted by a New York team. 488 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,920 He's like I was. It's pretty good. 489 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,680 Got him. Got him. 490 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,440 Josh Allen zapped his ass. He was. 491 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:59,800 I think ultimately this could all be just the, the Rams end up 492 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,640 giving him more money, like a two year deal with a shit ton of 493 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,680 money. Like what what's what's the 494 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,560 realistic number, $48 million a year for two years for Stafford? 495 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,920 Because the let's be honest, dude, McVeigh does. 496 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,600 McVeigh does not want to start Jackson Dart. 497 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,320 He really doesn't. I well, why, why are we here 498 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,000 then? Like at the beginning of this 499 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,080 it's. Probably negotiating. 500 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,720 It's probably a negotiating tactic. 501 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,720 They're just like, like Stafford's asking for more than 502 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,280 they want to give them and they're like a little bit 503 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,680 worried about like maybe he's asking for more years than they 504 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,400 want to give them. Or, you know, it's like, let's 505 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,840 see if someone will overpay and then we'll figure it out. 506 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Like they're actually, you know, Mcveigh's not getting fired 507 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,800 after like a, a losing season, you know, like, I don't know, 508 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,080 maybe they, they, they're the worst team in the, in the 509 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,560 league. And then they get like Arch 510 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,360 Manning or something, you know? They we'll do this with you. 511 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:54,440 Giants can. They come out next year. 512 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,200 I don't know. We'll do this with you giants, 513 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:02,160 but you got to take cup too. Step 4 Stafford. 514 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Stafford probably would love that. 515 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Stafford doesn't want to break. He doesn't want to break up the 516 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,360 breakfast. Club. 517 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,640 Maybe the Giants would love it. Cup is maybe kind of a good fit 518 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,640 with neighbors. He just like he he's the the 519 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,040 motion guy or whatever. And and say what you will, 520 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,240 defensive players will still Pat Crane and Sam Sherman won't 521 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,600 respect them, but defensive players will still respect 522 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,680 Cooper Hill. I could see it. 523 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,120 Yeah, me too. Well, anyway, you're you're 524 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:34,360 right to throw shade or just caution to that Cam Ward Browns 525 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:39,480 idea as bereft historically, currently the Browns and the 526 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,480 Giants cold weather, just such a history of losing. 527 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,880 They both have the right coaches. 528 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,120 I think for a quarterback prospect, you would like that 529 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,320 about them. You're not going to like a, you 530 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,840 know, a Mike Vrabel team or something where like it's just 531 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,240 going to be run and stop the run. 532 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,600 Like you could like Day Bowl and Stefanski both for what they can 533 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,280 offer you. The Browns could do something 534 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,480 with Ward or they do start someone else and they go to Pat 535 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,400 Mahomes route where like we're not really trying to win this 536 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,680 year. We're to develop you or take 537 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,240 your time. This is the one thing we've 538 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,280 always done wrong as Cleveland, You know, Mayfield just guys 539 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,640 throw them right in. Just sort of take a deep breath 540 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,080 and be patient and you know, tank basically. 541 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,280 That's that to me, that's the you're lying to yourself as as a 542 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,560 as Browns management. If you think that's going to fly 543 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,040 with the fan base, you're going to tell them we have Deshaun 544 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,320 Watson. We just get the the first fully 545 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,280 guaranteed quarterback contract just blew a gigantic hole in the 546 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,480 side of the franchise. He's not going to play a single 547 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,320 snap for us for the rest of his career. 548 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,200 We also just spent the number two overall pick on a 549 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,200 quarterback. You're not going to see him 550 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,000 though. You're not going to see him and 551 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,760 our plan is to lose a bunch of games, so. 552 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,080 We're I'd be fine with it. I'd be fine with it and I'm 553 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,480 trading Garrett, dude, Pat, the Patriots, just. 554 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,880 Tried this the the Bears tried this. 555 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,000 It doesn't work. You can't roll out. 556 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:03,080 You can't do it. It's just a way to get yourself. 557 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,000 You just lose a ton of credibility with the with the 558 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,720 fans. Don't do this. 559 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,880 Don't do don't worry. Joe Flacco will hold the hold 560 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,080 down the the team all year. You don't have to worry. 561 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:15,960 You you don't. You're not going to get to see 562 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:18,680 the shiny new toy that you're so excited about. 563 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,600 You just won't see him and you know 6 losses later you'll 564 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,880 you'll be fine with that. They won't be working if. 565 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,400 He's if he's undeniable, if he's undeniable, the Browns, what are 566 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,360 they? They they're they're they're 567 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:33,080 already flat on the floor. Browns fair like there's nothing 568 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,600 to worry about there. They'll be back. 569 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,640 If no. Ward is undeniable then you 570 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,280 know. This is this is a this is a 571 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,000 let's all get fired plan. Let's all get fired. 572 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,040 Let's let's draft the quarterback number two overall 573 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,120 and not play him is just people hate it. 574 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,520 They hate. It that that you you can't do if 575 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,040 you take the quarterback, you play them there, there's no 576 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,400 yeah, you can have the bridge. Every game you don't play him is 577 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,400 just like you. Just your approval rating goes 578 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,800 down. It's like let's tank our 579 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,880 approval rating with the fan base it it's like directly 580 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,840 correlated. People the one the one area 581 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,680 where I think you're right is that the coaches are probably 582 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,280 doomed. Like what happened with New 583 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,800 England, like they they took their time with me. 584 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,120 He got on the field. I'm not saying Ward has to never 585 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:19,680 get on the field, but like he's not your plan and you can figure 586 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,720 out how to sell that. You don't really doesn't really 587 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,760 matter. Like if teams, you know, fans 588 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,760 know what you're doing. So I'm a Cleveland Browns fan. 589 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,200 I've waited my whole life. I can wait one more year and it 590 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,400 makes sense. I'm like, let me hear. 591 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,280 I'll consult. Human brain, let me introduce 592 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,440 you to the human. Brain, they're not gonna do it. 593 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,480 Careful. When when it's the middle, when 594 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,960 it's the middle of the season and they're and they haven't won 595 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,400 a game and they're having to watch terrible football and 596 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,160 they've already given up. We how much, how many resources 597 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,480 have we spent on a quarterback? And we're and we're what have we 598 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,520 seen for it? What have we? 599 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,640 You're right. We've you're expect. 600 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,840 All this money on the Sean Watson, we spent the number two 601 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,160 pick on a quarterback and we're getting Joe Flacco. 602 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Don't make it Joe Flacco, but still, Yeah, right. 603 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,000 It makes so much more sense to take a rookie who not everybody 604 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,400 really, he's not like sort of a generational prospect or 605 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,520 anything like that. Makes much more sense to sell 606 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,680 off, you know, your veterans, Miles, Garrett, whatever. 607 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,120 Put him on the field on a terrible team and have fans talk 608 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:22,680 about how they're ruining the next guy that they spent the two 609 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,480 overall, that makes so much more sense. 610 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,000 No, I don't. Think that doesn't make? 611 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,200 Sense either I think they should take. 612 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,880 Travis Hunter. I mean they should take. 613 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,360 Travis Hunter fine, that's interesting. 614 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:33,280 Fine. Maybe they maybe that's better, 615 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,040 maybe that's better and then they get their quarterback next 616 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,280 year you. Shouldn't take Cam Ward. 617 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,600 You're not in position to take Cam Ward. 618 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,680 It's too much. It's too much capital to spend 619 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,720 on a quarterback you're not. Ready for a guy to They're going 620 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,720 to. Take I don't hate that. 621 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,960 They're not going to take Hunter. 622 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,880 Kim Ward is is far from a sure thing and these guys like, I 623 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,440 don't know, you're you're hanging on by a thread. 624 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,360 I I think you're your path is get. 625 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,520 You know, you're right, Joe, but it doesn't have to be cousins. 626 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,880 There's, you know, a few different options, but you get 627 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,400 in, you know, a cheaper veteran and you just try to put like a 628 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,560 solid product out on the field and get people excited about 629 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,200 Travis Hunter and the future. And maybe you do trade Garrett 630 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,120 and you've got extra pieces next year and you're like, look, 631 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,240 we've got a good coach. You know, we got a good defense. 632 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,000 We, we got we, we now finally have assets and you'll probably 633 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,080 have a top five pick again next year and then you figure it out 634 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,040 from from that point. Give the fans some credit. 635 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,920 I'm in Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrows division. 636 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,080 I'm in Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen's universe. 637 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,360 They're all under 30. What, am I supposed to go for it 638 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,400 this year? No, like I've got it. 639 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,040 I've got it. Five years here to figure it out 640 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,360 with the rookie. I I think not drafting a 641 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,360 quarterback is fine for Cleveland for, you know, picking 642 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,080 or trading down or something like that. 643 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,400 You know, if they get a get a Garrett moved on, they'll have 644 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,000 another pick or two to, to play with and you could build it up. 645 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,440 I think that that's fine. But if I'm a fan, I am, I have 646 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,560 0% expectation that they're going to do anything this year. 647 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,840 And if I feel that way, the the worse they are, the better. 648 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,600 And I don't want to ruin. Fans are not understanding this 649 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,880 at all. Fans are like. 650 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,360 We have Garrett, we have we traded for Judy Tillman was 651 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,680 exciting and joke who's 30. This will probably be the last 652 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,480 year Nick Chubb can even like walk. 653 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,000 So we should we should try and win. 654 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,440 Chubb's a free agent, by the way. 655 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,200 I doubt he's there. Yep. 656 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,560 It's. A well and Joku would be a trade 657 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,000 candidate for me too. Yeah, I just, I just think 658 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,920 basically, no, I cannot really ever recall any fan base ever in 659 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,920 my life being like, it's sick that my team wants to win four 660 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,960 games in football. In basketball, you can sell it, 661 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,800 right? Basically any basketball team, 662 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,680 you can sell it. But no NFL team like the Browns 663 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,400 tried to do this before. Remember when they they 664 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,280 basically salary dumped Osweiler? 665 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,440 There were the fans hated that. They they hated what? 666 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,240 What was the GM's Andrew, Not Andrew? 667 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,960 Barry, he's a great move by the way, too. 668 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,480 They they got picks for taking on a stupid contract. 669 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,440 Yeah, they hated. Hated that Brown's team. 670 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,280 They hated the the idiot coach they like. 671 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,040 They hired an idiot coach specifically to lose more games 672 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,600 and they hated I again for him for getting. 673 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Hugh Jackson, I think, was Hugh Jackson. 674 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,880 The kitchen, Slater. Yes, these people were like they 675 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,360 were, they were revolting in the streets because they. 676 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Hated. It's a long time ago. 677 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,040 It's the same people that root for other sports. 678 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,240 It's the same people. I mean, here's the thing. 679 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,160 Yeah, I don't think we have. I mean, I, I watched the 680 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,800 Patriots discourse very closely because I wanted them to start 681 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,600 Drake May and I was kind of betting on this narrative 682 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:49,560 playing out and it did play out. Is is it like what fans want is 683 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,720 they they're OK with losing games. 684 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,880 They're very OK with losing games, but they want you to like 685 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,920 lose games the way they want you to look like you're going to win 686 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,680 games. But then at the end they just 687 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,200 like take the score and change it to a. 688 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,960 Loss the the Justin Fields season where he was awesome and 689 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,320 then threw a back breaking pick at the end of every game. 690 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,000 Bears fans were like ecstatic. They were like this is the 691 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,800 greatest thing of all time. Fields playing well and then 692 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,400 finding a way to snatch victory. From the that's what they want. 693 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,040 But if you look. In those people were thinking 694 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,680 about the future, those fans, the same fans you talking about. 695 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,200 That it has to, you have to go out there and like put a good 696 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,600 product out on the field, be well coached, everything's going 697 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,240 great, you're moving the ball effectively and then somehow you 698 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,880 lose every game like that people are OK with, but unfortunately 699 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960 what actually happens is you go out and you look like a mess 700 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,400 because you're a disintegrating franchise that hasn't got any 701 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,040 kind of plan and people hate watching they're look, why am I 702 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,960 rooting for this? Why is this my team? 703 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400 Doesn't matter. I mean, if you own a team, would 704 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,320 you turn all about that? It doesn't matter. 705 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,360 They don't. They don't. 706 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,160 They don't take it well, They freak out. 707 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,840 I'm not in New England, I'm in Buffalo. 708 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,800 And for 25 years, my entire career, it's been mostly talking 709 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,560 about this, which is like, what will losing feel like? 710 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,880 The Sabres have not been to the playoffs in 14 years. 711 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200 I gotta tell hockey. You don't have to teach me about 712 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,040 what fans. Team did this. 713 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,920 Your team did what I'm talking about. 714 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,280 They did well. Josh Allen. 715 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,520 They played Josh Allen as a rookie. 716 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,400 Sit down for a minute. Josh Allen, Oh, he's a 717 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,680 developmental guy. We don't need to play him. 718 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,120 He plays. He plays the whole season, Mike. 719 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,400 He played the whole. Season. 720 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:34,080 He played the whole season because Nathan Peterman won the 721 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,720 the competition in the preseason. 722 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,280 And what, you're not going to tell me how this went? 723 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,560 I was here. He started telling me Nathan 724 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,360 Peterman, would he, Nathan Peterman would have stayed ahead 725 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,760 of Allen if if he doesn't, what he got hurt in game one or? 726 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,320 Something. No, he did not get hurt. 727 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,640 OK? They went to Baltimore in the 728 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,320 opener. He was the Allen was on the 729 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,320 team. Peterman won the competition, 730 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,160 started the opener. They got down maybe 40 to 731 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,520 nothing at halftime and did not have a first down. 732 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,440 And they put Allen in and I've never known what their like plan 733 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,679 was for when to play Allen. But he did not go right in. 734 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,199 And you know, he went in kind of in an emergency and he stayed 735 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:18,600 in. So that's. 736 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:23,679 My point, that's my point, is that these rookies, if you draft 737 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,320 a rookie in like the top 10, they're plaguing whatever the 738 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,000 plan is. Whoever wins the quarterback 739 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,560 competition, it doesn't matter. Don't trick yourself as the 740 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,719 coaching staff to thinking like Nathan Peterman will start most 741 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,440 of the season and we'll and we'll be fine. 742 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,960 Like we'll just develop this guy behind the scenes. 743 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,960 Like no, you won't. You will play that guy, you. 744 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,960 Won't play him. I think the Bears example is an 745 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,520 interesting one to learn from. Would the Bears have been better 746 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,520 off this year not playing Caleb Williams? 747 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,880 Like nobody was saying they shouldn't play Caleb Williams. 748 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,240 Nobody but he played and it went about as badly as it could have. 749 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,760 Coaching change, right? Like that's one thing I'm saying 750 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,440 about a situation like Cleveland is there would be a coaching 751 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,720 change probably at the end of it. 752 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,240 But if I own the team, I don't care about that. 753 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,360 I care more about sort of the I don't even care about the 754 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,400 perception because fans are going to show up and support me 755 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,600 anyway no matter what they do or say. 756 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,240 I just, I don't know, it's like it's a thing. 757 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,200 It's like reality versus a theoretical thing or like, yeah, 758 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,760 I mean, theoretically, if we all had like, you know, if we like 759 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,400 we were put in charge of the Bears for the rest of our lives, 760 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,360 we would draft Kayla Williams and develop them behind a 761 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,200 veteran. But I just don't think that 762 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,720 that's the way like these coaching Staffs are like with 763 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,880 the. I wouldn't have sat Kayla 764 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,080 Williams. I wouldn't have sat him. 765 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,880 He was a much better prospect. I would say you guys might 766 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,080 disagree, but a much better prospect than Ward. 767 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,160 And so yeah, yeah, no, I agree. And they had Keenan Allen or 768 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,160 Doonese and the other guy like they had, they called it the 769 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,800 best supporting cast any rookie quarterback has ever fallen 770 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,160 into. Call. 771 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,240 The call is coming from inside the house. 772 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,120 So horrendous. Horrendous. 773 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,200 I love drafting with Doonese right now, by the way. 774 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,600 I love that so much. I. 775 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,480 Did he's a good pick? He's a good pick. 776 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,880 Caleb Ben Johnson, Keenan Allen goes come on, it's O Doonese or 777 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,880 Tet in these drafts. Davis, your rankings like sort 778 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,680 of right side by side or Doomsday or Tet? 779 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,880 I mean, it's just like I think you, you coin flip that one 780 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,320 based. On I think I'm Ted there. 781 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,920 That's really good. I don't have I don't have a hard 782 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,280 the the thing for the big board that would lean you, it's so 783 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,440 like if you have Garrett Wilson and you don't know who to stack 784 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,720 him with before that, I would maybe lean Rome because you know 785 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:35,080 who to stack him with. But if you have you, you took 786 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:42,520 Jefferson, you took Ladd and you took so you take I don't know 787 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,200 who's who's wide receiver 60 and I can't even think JSN. 788 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,320 So you've got you've got three, you've got 3 quarterbacks you 789 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,480 can take. But if you started running back 790 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,880 lad Garrett Wilson, well, maybe you'd do Rome so that you can 791 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,080 set up another quarterback. McBride in there. 792 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:07,160 McBride sure, back to the rookie quarterbacks. 793 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,600 So Ward not to throw, Sanders not to throw Davis, Dart, 794 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:18,960 Millro, Riley Leonard reportedly will throw Tyler Shug. 795 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,200 Here's a guy he should be the next guy to change his name once 796 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,960 he get into the league to show because you could pronounce it 797 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,640 that way, like change it to show be the show. 798 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,240 But he's Tyler Shug coming out, isn't it? 799 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:32,720 I've heard it. I've heard. 800 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:33,160 It shocked. Shocked. 801 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,440 It's shocked. OK. 802 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,960 Well, we could we'll we'll expect that to change. 803 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,720 I'd bet on that. But Greg Cosell is definitely 804 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,120 shocked. But for now, but it was also 805 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,080 Liggett and there's also H that's. 806 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,600 True went to the pro and they changed their. 807 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,480 Names we talked about this. Yeah, leave all that baggage 808 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,480 behind. We're going to come by a 809 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,200 different name and E Tyler Show or actually someone else anyway, 810 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,240 Greg Cosell is into him. Davis over under quarterbacks 811 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,800 picked in round one. I've got. 812 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:07,120 I've got the line at 3 I think. You take 3 'cause I think it'd 813 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,760 be set at 2 1/2, so you you'd probably take the over. 814 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,520 Yeah, Corinne, you and I, you and I disagree on this one. 815 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,040 I, I think it's like almost a certainty that Jackson Dart ends 816 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,880 up in the first round and I think higher than he's currently 817 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,120 going in the mocks. Like his most common spot now is 818 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,400 being drafted at the Steelers slot, whether the Steelers trade 819 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,040 out or take him there. So I think we don't. 820 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,240 Where I disagree is that I think I think Jackson Dart's not a 821 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:41,160 very good best ball pick because there's some real downside for 822 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,360 best ball. One of the scenarios would be he 823 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,840 goes to the Seahawks in the first round. 824 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,280 Totally reasonable move by the Seahawks, but he's not going to 825 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,080 start all year. Maybe he starts at the end of 826 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,200 the year, but you're going to lose a bunch of starts and, you 827 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,320 know, at a spot where you have like 3 quarterbacks and. 828 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,920 Like the Super high? Upside type of archetype. 829 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,400 So you're just. No, that's definitely true. 830 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,080 The reason why I like taking Dart right now, it's twofold. 831 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:16,920 First being I think it's fairly certain he goes first round like 832 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,120 I would. I would make it like if you let 833 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,520 me bet it at -110. Right now I bet, I bet -110 so 834 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,880 I'm Dart or I'm 3. On Dart either. 835 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,760 Either. Or right, but wouldn't you 836 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,800 rather him go the early? 2nd to like, you know, the 837 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,720 Raiders or the Giants or you know, whoever doesn't take a 838 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,800 quarterback in the first round to figure out in, in, in that, 839 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,040 in that. Conception like, like the Will 840 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,920 Levis thing. Here's the thing, though. 841 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,280 Yeah, the Will Levis. I, I think that's not the way. 842 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,120 I think the Bonex Michael Pennix thing kind of changed how these. 843 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,000 I think we're seeing evidence of the changed NFL meta where the 844 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,480 Falcons were basically like, dude, we just got to take him 845 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,200 here. We're not, we're not digging 846 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,480 around. We're not trying to wait. 847 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,240 We're not. We're just, we're not another 848 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,400 team could trade back up or just we're done, we're done digging 849 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,400 around. Rusty also points out a big 850 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,680 thing with quarterbacks is there is a huge incentive in taking a 851 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,360 quarterback over another position in round one because 852 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,240 the fifth year option for quarterbacks is big. 853 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,440 Because if they end up being awesome, you can get a cheaper 854 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,240 year that's a cheaper 5th year you. 855 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,600 Can get it and and. Yeah. 856 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,800 So there's also. This is one of. 857 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,560 The many ways the Giants screwed up the Daniel Jones situation, 858 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,360 but they declined the with your option, right That was their 859 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,040 year to kind of figure out what do we have when this guy 100% 860 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,920 and then they then they declined a franchise tag him and then 861 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,280 they committed to him after that one year So yeah, I think you 862 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,680 know even if you even if the guy's not awesome, it at least 863 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040 gives you more time to figure out if you're going to extend 864 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,520 him I think with. With Jackson I. 865 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,320 I agree with your point that, you know, maybe teams are just 866 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,400 like, look, this, this this guy's our guy. 867 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,720 But you do have two land mines in the first round, first being 868 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:53,120 the Seahawks, but the second is the Saints. 869 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,800 You know, you want to talk about like a, a team that would be 870 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,760 kind of this year's Falcons of like, oh, man, I did not see 871 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,400 them going ahead and taking a quarterback. 872 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,600 But you get the new coach, right, Callum? 873 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,720 Moore's going to have you know this year. 874 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,960 'S a throwaway year. You can cut Derek Carr after the 875 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,360 season, you can't cut him before the season. 876 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,560 It doesn't make any sense dead cap wise, but you know, I was 877 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,040 listening to Conor Rogers talk about Dart. 878 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,840 He's a pretty big fan of Dart, but he was like, I'm a fan of 879 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,760 him in the sense of like you developed this guy. 880 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,760 He's a legit kind of developmental quarterback where 881 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,560 he's like, and I and I've I've gotten my quarterback write ups 882 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,200 like 95% done now. I was struck by like he was sort 883 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,720 of a system quarterback in college, but not like the system 884 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,200 is a different, like a really different system than in the 885 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,960 pros. Like he's not a great thrower to 886 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,680 the middle of the field. He's he's not like a plug and 887 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,480 play like system game manager in the NFLI think he's going to not 888 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,440 that he can't do it, but like you think he's going to have to 889 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,160 like well, so I. Would push back on that a little 890 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:02,360 bit because the system that he was in at Ole Miss is now the 891 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,800 most dominant, not dominant. In terms of results. 892 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,560 Dominant in terms of nomenclature route concept in 893 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,080 the NFL, which is the Lane Kiffin RPI mean not that Lane 894 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,520 Kiffin originated it, but Lane Kiffin is the is is just part of 895 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,640 the the tree, which is like that's what every team runs 896 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,320 basically what he's doing what. I mean, is like, he's really, 897 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,880 he's got a good deep ball, he's a good scrambler, but he's not a 898 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,480 great thrower to the middle of the field. 899 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,240 So if you plug him into like the systems that protect these 900 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:39,320 quarterbacks with flaws, it's, you know, like I like JJ 901 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,120 McCarthy's fit a lot better than Jackson darts. 902 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,440 It's like you're going to throw him into one of these West Coast 903 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,400 Shanahan tree offenses. And like, yeah, he'll be he'll 904 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,200 be good enough at the RPO stuff. But like, can he? 905 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,120 Don't forget the Rams. Yeah, the Rams, I mean, that's 906 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,120 another example. Like is he going to, is he going 907 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,400 to deliver the ball on time to guys and, and so they can get 908 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,000 yak like all these systems are built around getting yak and. 909 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,800 Dart is more kind of like a. Playmaker. 910 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,640 He's, he's like a runaround playmaker, you know, with, you 911 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,880 know, I think so. I think there's a difference 912 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,480 here in opinion, which is like sometimes guys do that in 913 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,280 college because that is what is required of them. 914 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,400 You know, my read based on watching him and also like he 915 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,320 completed, I think like he led all of college football in 916 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,800 completion percentage and like some some of these like pretty 917 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,440 good, as you noted, pretty good big time throw rate as well. 918 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,080 Basically, Corinne, just let me, I'll just I'll just summarize it 919 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,680 this way. I think he can have a Bo Nixian 920 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,080 level impact on whatever team decides to start up in year 1. 921 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:55,920 I actually think worse runner the Knicks, but a better 922 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,800 thrower, a better reader of the game the Knicks was and Knicks 923 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,520 obviously got there. Like actually Bonex is kind of 924 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,280 incredible. He like got a lot better in 925 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,760 season, which you don't see like Caleb Williams got worse as the 926 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,160 season went on and Bonex got better. 927 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,720 You you could actually like see it. 928 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,160 With Bonex, like he is better now, like he's he had gotten, 929 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,520 yeah, you're right. I had a great offensive line, 930 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,040 which is probably a big part of that, but. 931 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,160 He Chader LED in completion percentage. 932 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,600 Dart led the SEC in completion percentage. 933 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,200 Not, not all of college football, by the way. 934 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,720 Talking about the Browns earlier, just I'll, I'll correct 935 00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:35,120 one thing. There's their second round pick 936 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,400 is the two O 1. Those were ties. 937 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,280 The the thing about the draft order, there can always be 938 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,360 trades, of course, but who are the quarter? 939 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,240 But who are the teams that might do this? 940 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:48,400 Like Bo Nicks, Denver sort of forced that and they got away 941 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,040 with it. But it's 123 Tennessee, 942 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,800 Cleveland, Giants, it's the Raiders and The Jets 6-7. 943 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,400 Are we talking about this guy as a top seven pick? 944 00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:02,240 Probably not. After that, nobody is looking 945 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,960 for a starting quarterback unless, you know, you talk about 946 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,800 maybe Pittsburgh at 21. I mean, I'm telling you, I 947 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,160 think, I think some of. These teams like from last year, 948 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,560 we would not have talked about the Falcons, but I think some of 949 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,680 these teams, they could fall in love and be like. 950 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,920 So I I do think the Saints, the Saints and the Seahawks are like 951 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,040 strong candidates. If he goes, if he. 952 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,560 Goes to the Saints. I think I'm winning anyways, 953 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,960 'cause he's starting eight games, including he is starting 954 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:27,760 eight. He's starting. 955 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,600 Eight games. They're not going to. 956 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,360 Yeah, He he's taking the job from Carr. 957 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,520 By the way, I I kind of like Dart. 958 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,400 I'm not out on dart at. All I just think that his like 959 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,240 one of his the comps for me was was Daniel Jones. 960 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,480 He's kind of Daniel Jonesy with signed me up for that. 961 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,680 Frankly, got a better deep ball. You know, but it's not. 962 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,360 I don't think he's. Going to like sit back. 963 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,800 In the pocket and be like picking, picking apart the 964 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:57,160 defense, you know, he's like, it's more, it's a bit more like 965 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,400 depending on his mobility. It's, yeah, it's his athleticism 966 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,520 and his ability to like really throw downfield the the nutted. 967 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,800 Scenario is, is obviously The Jets. 968 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,800 The Jets say, you know what, we're taking him at 7:00. 969 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:12,040 We're having him toss it to Garrett Wilson. 970 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,280 We're throwing a bunch of check downs to, to to Breece. 971 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,600 Yeah. Also, as Neighborhood points 972 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,240 out, Jackson Dart, insanely handsome guy. 973 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,200 Don't know if that helps, but I think he's probably done. 974 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,600 So the good face. And the good name, This is the 975 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,680 guy who's not going to need to change the pronunciation of his 976 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,000 name in the NFL. The good face and the good name. 977 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,160 That's a good kind. Jackson. 978 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:33,640 Jackson with an. X Dart. 979 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,040 Yeah, dude. And he also he, he. 980 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,520 Runs a little and he runs hard. He'll put his shoulder down. 981 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,680 He'll, he'll come up and do this. 982 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,200 You know, he's got he's got the right energy for a guy to go 983 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,480 first rounds when and and he was one of the he. 984 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,400 Was like the reverse Millroe like everyone at the the Senior 985 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,640 Bowl was like Jill Millroe asked Don't want him. 986 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,320 And everyone at the Senior Bowl was like Jackson Dart, man, I 987 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,160 don't know. Well, the the thing I. 988 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,240 Push back on there is it not everyone? 989 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:04,160 Jackson Dart is really polarizing. 990 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,720 Some people think he sucks but but he has people who think this 991 00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:11,840 dude is awesome. So what about Milro at this 992 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,840 point like you? You'd bet -110 on dart in the 993 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,080 first round. What would you bet on Milro to 994 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,320 not go in the first round? Yeah, he's, he's not going a lot 995 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,840 of money. Really. 996 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,760 You're that sure? I had a bet goes. 997 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,360 First round. I have a bet on. 998 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,720 Him not going the top 16, that's nice. 999 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,800 That's a bulldog bet, Pat. Oh, he just took the other end 1000 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,360 of that. Did you did you have to lay 1001 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,640 anything I like you know, he he's a smart. 1002 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,680 Guy, he knows a lot and he's like every year, one of these 1003 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,920 guys, no one's talking. Maybe it's Tyler Shuck, somebody 1004 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,080 that we're not talking about. They fall in love. 1005 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,680 It's what happened with Nixon Pennix. 1006 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,160 Remember Ben Solak last year like a week before the draft? 1007 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,200 I think a lot of him like there's no way. 1008 00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,000 These are first round picks, Bam, both of them. 1009 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,720 I'm not even in the, you know, both top half of the first 1010 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:02,800 round. So did that go well? 1011 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,560 It definitely went well for Denver. 1012 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,560 So could somebody I just, I mean, I think my point is who is 1013 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,880 the team it it went way better for? 1014 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,240 The Falcons than they could have had any reason to expect because 1015 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,080 they should have been up Schitt's Creek without a paddle. 1016 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,920 And Cousins was just so bad that basically like, they just 1017 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,440 immediately bailed themselves out, you know? 1018 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,080 Yeah, it's. And this kind of goes. 1019 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,640 To the earlier conversation a little bit with about, you know, 1020 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,560 what happens when you you know, when you draft a quarterback 1021 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,280 high, they think they do tend to play. 1022 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,000 If you have that bailout option and the guy ahead of him is not 1023 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,280 doing what you expect, even if you just spent an insane amount 1024 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,960 of money, you're going to go to the bailout option. 1025 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,640 These guys are in self preservation mode. 1026 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,600 They're not going to be able to handle, you know, putting a bad 1027 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,480 product out on the field. So, yeah, I mean, I think that 1028 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,480 backs up your point, Davis, about if Dart goes to the Saints 1029 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,240 or if he goes to the Seahawks. Like now the pressure is really, 1030 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:06,920 really on those veterans to like, play really strongly and 1031 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,920 have the team play well, too. And the minute they lose, like 1032 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,600 two or three games in a row, we're probably seeing the 1033 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,600 rookie. Yeah. 1034 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,720 I think it's kind. Of bad, I think Dart would. 1035 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:20,120 Be better off if he could get like a year. 1036 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,120 The Patrick Mahomes plan would actually be pretty good for Dart 1037 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,800 in my mind. But what What's best for Kellen 1038 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,120 Moore? What does he want here? 1039 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,640 Does does he want dart of work? He takes this job. 1040 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,800 He, he, it's a thing. He moves. 1041 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,000 Every year. And you know, this is maybe 1042 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,840 because he's just, what was he trying to move? 1043 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,120 Next year, too. That's funny. 1044 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,200 What? What? 1045 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,560 Is best for him? Is it to make Derek Carr work, 1046 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,200 or is it to kind of blow it up? The worst thing in the world is 1047 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,680 to make. Derek Carr look good because 1048 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,800 then you have to deal with Derek Carr in 2026. 1049 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,640 And then it's like if you don't make him look good again, now 1050 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,040 it's on you, then you're out. Yeah. 1051 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,040 So. Well. 1052 00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:01,120 Yeah, I think. You, I think you. 1053 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,640 Want what you probably want? Is. 1054 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,840 To. Just tank, just like play. 1055 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,280 Just play a bunch of Spencer Rattler. 1056 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,720 Just just just go for if you're going to, if you're going to do 1057 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,720 that, just bring. Dart in and just be like, well, 1058 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,720 let's see what you got. But I have to spend money. 1059 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:22,440 I have to spend. Capital on dart. 1060 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,360 Like, why? Why wouldn't I build through the 1061 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,760 trenches, you know, and just trying to make this team better. 1062 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,000 This roster sucks and it's getting worse so bad. 1063 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,160 Yeah, they should. Drain down 5. 1064 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,800 Times. Yeah, they should. 1065 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:36,880 Do you know who makes more money? 1066 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,480 Than crystal lobby this year. On the Saints, no one I'm. 1067 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,480 Sure. Or just Carl Michael. 1068 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,400 Michael Thomas, Michael. Thomas says more more against 1069 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,640 the Academy. Here's 11 state. 1070 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,360 Of the year well, so. You, you're making. 1071 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,080 You're making. Not Jamal Williams. 1072 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,320 Michael. Thomas, not Jamal. 1073 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,400 Williams either. Does he? 1074 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,840 Also make more money what what you're actually doing. 1075 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,320 Is you're actually making the point that they are going to try 1076 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,920 and make Derek Carr work because they just refuse? 1077 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,200 To do this. They refuse to eat the shit for 1078 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,840 whatever reason. This ownership group, you're 1079 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,160 right, you're right. They. 1080 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,680 Just absolutely refuse to just be. 1081 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,800 Like, you know what? We are going to be so dreadfully 1082 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,400 bad. So bad we are going to be 1083 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,880 Spencer Rattler throwing to Marquez Valdez Gantling. 1084 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,280 Except not at the end of the season. 1085 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,320 That's the plan from Week 1. Garbage bags over the heads, are 1086 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:27,760 you? Guys old. 1087 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:28,920 You remember that? Oh, yeah. 1088 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:29,720 Where? Where did that go? 1089 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:31,360 What happened to garbage bags over the heads? 1090 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,480 Where did that go? I've seen, I've seen the paper 1091 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,880 bags. Is that not paper bags? 1092 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,160 Paper bags, yeah. No, I've saw that A. 1093 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,400 Bunch I saw that a bunch this. Year, we don't see that anymore. 1094 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,960 Or doing just in Buffalo, Mike? Really, that's the whole thing. 1095 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,920 It's all around. Yeah, yeah, Jets fans and. 1096 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,720 And Browns fans, Jets fans, Jets. 1097 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:48,480 The stadiums are, too. Nice, yeah, but. 1098 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,800 All right, Yeah, that was the Saints originated that the 1099 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,200 aunts. And did they? 1100 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:54,200 I. Didn't know that was the Saints. 1101 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:55,800 Oh yeah. That was that was the first I. 1102 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,280 Think I believe the Saints St. aunts fans or the they write 1103 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,360 aunts. The aunts, yes, it's pretty 1104 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,000 good. Paper bags have been banned. 1105 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,800 I've. I've seen them. 1106 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:03,720 I've seen them. Come on. 1107 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,400 Did you know that Joe Theisman was? 1108 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,960 Thiesman in college, no. Wow, that's a bigger name. 1109 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,440 That's a big one. We're on to a new thing. 1110 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,400 Here of guys. Changing the pronunciation of 1111 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,200 their names. Changed his name to win the. 1112 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,640 Heisman didn't. Ended up punting in for the 1113 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,960 Toronto Argonauts before too long, before he really made it 1114 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,640 in the NFL, Tony Dorsett was Tony Dorsett. 1115 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,520 Tony Dorsett. Yeah, yeah. 1116 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,040 Let's get to. The arts, The art. 1117 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,960 Not. Let's anyone. 1118 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,600 Think I'm, you know, moving these guys along today. 1119 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,720 Can we all agree on that? I'm really you didn't move 1120 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,280 along, but you let. Us go now. 1121 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,120 I'm moving you along at 52. 30 at 5230. 1122 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,520 Yeah, all. Right, All right, let's so. 1123 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:51,600 Round one Zach did some good work for us as usual this week 1124 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,280 with some graphics there. You see you know I'm up in the 1125 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,640 big board at one O 2 Chase went one O 1. 1126 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,360 Is it obviously Barkley? I mean, I'm of course it's a 1127 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,760 portfolio thing, but you guys could tell me what to do there. 1128 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,720 I just, I lost all my mojo, man. I. 1129 00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:08,120 Have no mojo left. I'm not making any stances. 1130 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,360 I'm just taking the first round picks where they go, even though 1131 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,440 I think it's frankly the worst ordering of the first round 1132 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,600 since Jonathan Taylor went 101. What would you what would you 1133 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,160 have the order? As my truth serum order. 1134 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:26,560 Yeah, Jefferson, Bijon Chase, Barkley, Jefferson one. 1135 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,400 Bijon Chase Barkley. Yeah, that's my truth. 1136 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,520 Serum if you throw the next slide. 1137 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,320 Frankly see chases A1 O one versus recent years. 1138 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,480 Frankly, double truth serum. Is Barkley should be even lower 1139 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,160 than that but I just I don't want to get cancelled so the 1140 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,320 thing so. Barkley I you know, when we 1141 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,040 first talked about it before the season ended and stuff, I was 1142 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,400 like, I don't know, like Barkley one O 1. 1143 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:58,960 But I will say with, you know with Barkley Davis, if we think 1144 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:04,400 about like Week 1 projections roll out, Barclays can. 1145 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,640 Be projected for like 20. 22 point. 5 underdog points or 1146 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,960 something. Yeah. 1147 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,840 And then like Bijan. 'S what? 1148 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:19,800 Like 1920, frankly. I I. 1149 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,320 Think there is a good? Argument. 1150 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,720 Move that Algier rush air to. What it was at the end of the 1151 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:31,640 year and you've got you've got Bijon in the same category 1152 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,600 before we. Get you're going to need to. 1153 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,640 See it though? Sorry. 1154 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,080 Pat. I want to get back into that, 1155 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,760 but we can move on from let's look at this for a minute. 1156 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,040 These are the last five one O ones in best ball mania than the 1157 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,240 big board right now with chase. By the way, I want to just 1158 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:53,840 especially appreciate Zach for leaving McCaffrey back four 1159 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,840 years ago in the Carolina uniform. 1160 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,600 When Aaron Rodgers signs with the Titans, Adam Schefter will 1161 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,040 be there with a picture of Rodgers and ACGI. 1162 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,120 You know, Titans, no one needs that. 1163 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,680 All right? Let's just wait until he 1164 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,600 actually has one of those jerseys on. 1165 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,120 We don't really need, we don't need the world to put the fake 1166 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,400 jerseys on. I hate it. 1167 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,440 I hate. It you know Juan Soto's a met 1168 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,000 there. He isn't a met, right? 1169 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,600 You don't what? Why do you need to do that? 1170 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,320 You don't need to do that. It always looks a little weird. 1171 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,040 It is weird. That's finally we agree. 1172 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,760 So anyway, here here's the chase. 1173 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,240 One O 1 these last 55 minutes. Totally. 1174 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:37,120 Agree, it was a fun ride. We've got a, a, a slide on Chase 1175 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,040 versus Jefferson if you want to do that. 1176 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,440 And then if not, we can get right to the running backs. 1177 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,800 I I predict Gibbs at Berkeley in the opener. 1178 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,040 You mean they? Play each other. 1179 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,640 That's a cool. It'd be a cool opener. 1180 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,560 Philadelphia has options they play of. 1181 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:57,400 Course, Washington, Dallas. Let's let's let's talk the 1182 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,040 running backs first. We. 1183 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,720 Can come back to the receivers. I want to have the the B because 1184 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,760 I I. Kind of want like, all right. 1185 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,680 My truth serum take is that Gibbs should probably be the 1186 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,360 one-on-one this dude is. I'm fine with that as well. 1187 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,120 This. Guy's the best running back. 1188 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,480 Like he he's an incredible running back and he catches the 1189 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,360 ball and he has an amazing offensive line and the team like 1190 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,520 loves to run the ball. And it's like, if anything, 1191 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,720 we'll probably get a little less creative, which is probably 1192 00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:25,360 decent for the running back. Like, you know, all the 1193 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,040 offensive weapons are in place. Like there's there's total 1194 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,800 stability here. The only thing that's like a 1195 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,640 little uncertain is how how much David Montgomery is going to 1196 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,200 have left. So I mean, Gibbs could just go 1197 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,880 absolutely new. That's that's a, that's a 1198 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,640 pretty. Big area of. 1199 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:41,800 Concern though 'cause that could. 1200 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,440 Ship like imagine a world where you you actually projected the 1201 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:51,160 entire season where it's just Gibbs, Sion Vaki and Craig 1202 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,560 Reynolds in the backfield, then Gibbs. 1203 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,440 Like if you were told right now, oh, David Montgomery tore his 1204 00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:02,440 Patella tendon, you know, Gibbs is is probably the one O 1. 1205 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,000 Yeah, I think Gibbs would be the one O 1. 1206 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,600 Like any people would would it wouldn't be like you'd you'd 1207 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,480 have to argue it. I think he just would become the 1208 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,640 one O 1 become the one O one. Yeah, people. 1209 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,080 Understand the the bowl. Case here, like we all, we've 1210 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,720 all seen it, but I mean, like you think about like how running 1211 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:22,520 backs actually turn in insane performances on a weekly basis. 1212 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,400 Normally it's that they have access to a bunch of touchdowns 1213 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,120 and they can catch a bunch of balls. 1214 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,560 That's what Gibbs can do, would Barkley was able to do last year 1215 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,200 is just like kind of destroy that to a degree by just having 1216 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,800 this incredible breakaway ability. 1217 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,720 But Gibbs also has incredible breakaway ability. 1218 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,760 He's got all the things. Yeah, he's got that too. 1219 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,520 He's got the. He's got an amazing offensive 1220 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,800 line as well, so you're kind of layering on some additional 1221 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,320 ways, like additional outs for him to have monster games, the 1222 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,720 concern. Is really about. 1223 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,040 Montgomery and now, so it's like Barclays. 1224 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,800 Case really comes down. To from the jump, every single 1225 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,960 week, he's going to be projected awesome every single week and 1226 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,640 he's going to score awesome in a bunch of those games. 1227 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,920 And as we get to the end of the season, as long as he's healthy, 1228 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,040 as long as the offense hasn't melted down somehow, he's going 1229 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,680 to be a really, really strong bet in the playoffs as well. 1230 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:26,920 But like Gibbs is the one where if everything breaks right, he 1231 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,800 could just he's like putting up 40 burgers. 1232 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,960 You know that that's like right. And that, and then it it's a 1233 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,680 question of like, how much, how much do you want to like give up 1234 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,000 in, you know, the most likely scenarios where you are giving 1235 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,680 up compared like Barkley's a better bet in the most likely 1236 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,680 scenario than Gibbs. But in the scenarios where it 1237 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,200 breaks right for Gibbs, like give me Gibbs all day. 1238 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,400 So it's really just a kind of a question of how you balance 1239 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,440 those two things. They also are losing. 1240 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:59,720 Ben Johnson, I think that will likely did make them a little 1241 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,560 bit less efficient. I mean, you could argue that 1242 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,920 maybe being a little bit less efficient on a team level might 1243 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,280 actually help Gibbs feed him a little bit more volume. 1244 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,960 I just want to spend a second on Bijan though, because I feel 1245 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,320 like because it, it came at the end of the year when everyone 1246 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,600 was kind of checked out, like how many people are just like 1247 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,760 done with fantasy football by week 15, week 16 or whatever. 1248 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,760 The, the Bijon Robinson as engine of the offense thing. 1249 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,360 I mean, it happened. They, they, he ended the year 28 1250 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,840 rushes, 5 targets, 17 rushes, 5 targets, 22 rushes, 2 targets, 1251 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,920 22 rushes, 2 targets, 22 rushes, 2 targets, 26 rushes and six 1252 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,880 targets. That is, I mean, that's better 1253 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,280 volume. Than Barclay. 1254 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,840 I wonder a little bit what Atlanta wants to do with Pennex 1255 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,480 and maybe the the Occam's razor here is that that should be 1256 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,920 through Bijan. And then he grows and you're 1257 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,200 right. But Barkley would be third here 1258 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,600 for me. You know, we, we know each other 1259 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,080 like it's the older running back number of touches Saquon Barkley 1260 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:09,520 had this year, 482 Good God, including. 1261 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,360 Play offs. Well, I mean look dude, surely 1262 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,560 the fact. That he's another year older, 1263 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,640 that he got 33 targets, that they have the most unstoppable 1264 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,000 short yardage play in the history of football. 1265 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,080 Surely none of that is going to impact Barclay's fantasy numbers 1266 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,920 and he's just going to keep scoring these 50 yard touchdowns 1267 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,240 and let's all just take him at one O 2 so that no one laughs or 1268 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,840 mocks at us. He's a good pick there. 1269 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,840 So just take him. Dale. 1270 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,760 You're right man. Like. 1271 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,080 I I feel like a. Younger me just. 1272 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,160 Would put Gibbs at one O 1. You know, just he's the best, 1273 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,200 he's the best bet to win tournaments. 1274 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,960 We're trying to win tournaments, Gibbs. 1275 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,800 That's that's your way of saying that's. 1276 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,400 What I really should be doing that's well, I so I I disagree. 1277 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,440 To to win a a shit load. Of money, Gibbs is the best bet. 1278 01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:00,280 I I disagree with that in only. 1 slight way which is that if. 1279 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,720 JJ McCarthy is as. Good or a smidgen better than 1280 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,760 Sam Darnold. And the defense is just not the 1281 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,960 best defense in the NFL. If we could just get the 1282 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,720 Minnesota Vikings can be the 11th best defense instead of the 1283 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,360 best literal second best defense the the Eagles for the best 1284 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,480 defense we could we could be looking at like. 1285 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,920 I mean he could just duplicate what Chase did last year except 1286 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,800 without the two for 20s interspersed in there that Chase 1287 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,240 does. Yeah, I think Jefferson and 1288 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,720 Chase. Are both like very strong? 1289 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,000 Picks at at the. Top and you're saying like I 1290 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,720 basically be able to build, I'm going to out build the teams 1291 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:46,000 that take Barkley and Robinson and and you know, Gibbs will be 1292 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,360 well, first of all, Gibbs might be gone by the time you get 1293 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,520 Jefferson. All these guys might be gone by 1294 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,120 the time you get Jefferson. But yeah, you're you're going to 1295 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,920 like out build the teams and find running back points 1296 01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,000 elsewhere. Those those guys are, are really 1297 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,880 good picks. I think to me, like there's 1298 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,800 there's not it's not that interesting of conversation 1299 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,200 because they're both just really good picks. 1300 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,880 My. I guess toward Davis might have 1301 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,160 sounded condescending. That was unfair. 1302 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,080 That was a non derogatory unfair by me. 1303 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,040 I I don't know what's what's the T Higgins effect on Chase if 1304 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,840 he's gone like what is do we care? 1305 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,760 No. Oh, I think if Higgins is gone. 1306 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,000 It's pretty good. For Chase, it's. 1307 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,400 Except. Except Zach Taylor's. 1308 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:34,360 Such a goddamn moron that when T Higgins was out last year, Jabar 1309 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,040 Chase had 48% of his routes were double covered and he never 1310 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,240 moved. Zach Taylor was like sick dude. 1311 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,240 You know what we're going to do? Mike Kasicki? 1312 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,080 They'll never see it coming. But you talk about a. 1313 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,120 You talk about. A change in. 1314 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,720 Defense, Minnesota, he got to include Cincinnati, which had 1315 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,160 the worst defense. And if they get to league 1316 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,520 average, that's, you know, going to flip that pretty hard. 1317 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:59,360 What do you think the? Yeah, I mean, bad defense. 1318 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,160 And you got to give Zach Taylor credit, especially in this era 1319 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,000 of the NFL, he will pass the ball like password over 1320 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,720 expected. They're kind of our kings now. 1321 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,560 So, you know, that makes up for like, you know, it's like how 1322 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,400 many additional routes does Chase get and you're burning 1323 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,680 some of those. They're not the most efficient 1324 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:18,760 routes. They're not, you know, it's not 1325 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,200 the most efficient design of the offense, but it's truly built 1326 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,240 around the passing game, which is, you know, there's a lot of 1327 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,240 like A.J. Brown wishes he had an offense 1328 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,600 built around the passing game. You know, these, these elite 1329 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:30,880 receivers aren't always in that spot. 1330 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,320 One slide we have if you're. Ready is who is the wide 1331 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:41,080 receiver? 3 Lamb is interesting, I mean 1332 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,880 Nikua. We'll see what happens with 1333 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,240 Stafford. I guess there could be some 1334 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,200 trepidation about him pondering a change. 1335 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,440 Collins and St. Brown, so well established. 1336 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,640 Lamb feels in a way that I like when it comes to drafting him, 1337 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,560 just kind of boring. We've been through that and 1338 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,720 Brian Schottenheimer taking over feel like the instinct is to 1339 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,920 kind of not fade him but not be super excited about him. 1340 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,480 He's, he's old enough now where I think he's become boring and 1341 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,680 that makes me like him. But I would not separate him 1342 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,000 from this group if this is. A world. 1343 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,520 Where Stafford gets traded? Why? 1344 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,040 Is Amin Raw not the best of these? 1345 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:28,000 Guys, it's I, I think it's CD. Personally, yeah. 1346 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,240 I mean you have. The the Schottenheimer 1347 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,800 uncertainty There you also have the Ben Johnson left uncertainty 1348 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,320 well, CD was the. The nuts, They were the number 1349 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,840 one scoring offense in the NFL. Was Schottenheimer calling the 1350 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,200 plays two years ago? OK. 1351 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:45,600 Prescott. Was he calling? 1352 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,400 The plays He calling. The plays under McCarthy two 1353 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,400 years ago, yeah. It's, it's like, it's like, it's 1354 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,720 so funny. 'Cause I think people have done 1355 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,720 this mental math of the Cowboys were terrible last year. 1356 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:01,560 Schottenheimer was this out of left field coaching hire. 1357 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,360 I feel like people forgot this. People think Schottenheimer is 1358 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,480 new to the system. They were like, oh, he was out 1359 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,000 in the wilderness. No, he's been, he's been 1360 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,000 calling. I didn't think he's new to the 1361 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:10,920 system. I didn't know he's calling 1362 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,200 plays. Under the McCarthy so Callum 1363 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:20,240 Moore left, we talked about how. They wanted to score less, 1364 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,080 McCarthy made a comment that made us all sort of Dallas 1365 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,200 wanted. They thought it'd be a better 1366 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,560 team if they scored fewer points. 1367 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,880 That was actually so that. Came out that was a comment he 1368 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:34,360 made that was reported the year after Kellen Moore left. 1369 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,520 But he had made it the year before Kellen Moore left. 1370 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,840 So he, after Kellen Moore's first year calling plays, 1371 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,280 McCarthy made a made a comment of like, we're basically passing 1372 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,480 too much or scoring too many points or whatever. 1373 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,520 And then Kellen Moore returned and they had a good offense. 1374 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,640 And then that like came out that the following year after more 1375 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,120 left. So McCarthy McCarthy kind of got 1376 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,800 a bad rap there where like he and then they they were quite 1377 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,680 effective. Are you he he wasn't calling 1378 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,680 plays though in 2023. I, I think, I think if I 1379 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,680 remember. Correctly, and maybe a Cowboys 1380 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,600 fan can correct me on this, so sacrilegious or or stuff. 1381 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,400 My memory was that it started out with McCarthy calling the 1382 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,640 plays and then was one of those in season. 1383 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,760 I don't, I think I'm not sure. Sean Heimer. 1384 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:26,280 Ever called the play like the NBC Sports November 19th 2024 1385 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,400 Mike McCarthy hasn't considered giving up play calling duties OK 1386 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,240 to Brian Sean Heimer I think McCarthy called that was wrong 1387 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:33,640 OK I'm. Wrong. 1388 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,040 They don't have to really tell you. 1389 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,080 Remember, like Mike. Tomlin with this they. 1390 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,400 Don't really ever have to tell you who's calling the plays. 1391 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,160 They can just, you know, whatever they want you to think 1392 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:47,160 will be. Frankly, I'll say this I. 1393 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,600 Think the Cowboys, it was just I actually kind of feel similar 1394 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,400 about the Cowboys. How I feel about the Dolphins. 1395 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,520 I'm like, I just I'm not taking anything from last year is real. 1396 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,000 They're going to look different. Brandon Cooks is not going to be 1397 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,000 the wide receiver to DAC will be healthy. 1398 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,240 It'll just I don't know exactly what it's going to look like. 1399 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,600 I don't know exactly how it's going to work, but they are not 1400 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,040 going to be this awful chaotic mess. 1401 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,440 I don't they they just have good players like DAC and CD. 1402 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,480 That in and of itself. I don't know man. 1403 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,480 I, I could see the, I could see the Cowboys being extremely 1404 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,160 chaotic, like they have good players, but they have no depth. 1405 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,720 They've got Parsons, Dak. And. 1406 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:30,400 CD and it's like the the line is Zach Zach Martin just retired 1407 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,520 you you just you just wait till Ashton Gente. 1408 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:33,920 Is taking those handoffs. They're gonna. 1409 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,720 They're gonna score. They're gonna. 1410 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,680 Score so many points, yeah, I mean. 1411 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,360 The Cowboys. Are such an easy mark. 1412 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,560 I'm trying to think like who the comp is for a team where we just 1413 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,160 kind of all decide that they're just making all the wrong 1414 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,640 decisions and it's them from 2022. 1415 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,760 Which, by the way, on Pro Football Reference, 1416 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,720 Schottenheimer is listed as a consultant. 1417 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,120 They won 12 games. They were fourth in league in 1418 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,920 points. It's the playoff loft for the 1419 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,680 Niners that ends when they had Ezekiel Elliott, like what did 1420 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,680 he snap the ball or something? Whatever that play was. 1421 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,680 So it's it's that season. But that was, you know, gold for 1422 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,960 Lamb and for Prescott and whatever Schottenheimer really 1423 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,840 was doing. He's listed as a consultant. 1424 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,160 And with more there in 22, then they made that change. 1425 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:20,760 He went to wherever after that, Chargers, I don't know, yes. 1426 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,960 Chargers then. Fired. 1427 01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:24,080 I don't know. I mean like the thing. 1428 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:29,000 Is when you think about because this year we're going to have a 1429 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,720 bunch of teams who we expected to be like pretty good to be 1430 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,600 absolute dog shit, right? It happens every year and so 1431 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,399 it's always a bummer and you don't want to think like that. 1432 01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:41,520 You want to be thinking about what the upside is because 1433 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,000 that's like how we're going to win tournaments. 1434 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,600 But you it is, I think sometimes helpful to just like explore the 1435 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,880 range of outcomes on some of these teams and you know, the. 1436 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,680 Cowboys have some signs. Like for example, they have an 1437 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,720 82 year old owner who just got the acting bug. 1438 01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:00,520 You know, that seems like. Better late than never, that. 1439 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,560 Seems like a potential red flag. Considering he runs the entire 1440 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:09,040 organization, you know, you could see this team being a bit 1441 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,279 chaotic I would say. Were you sitting on that all 1442 01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:11,960 day? Have you? 1443 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,800 Used that, yet that was well, I came. 1444 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:20,160 Up I I googled his age to make sure I I got a the delivery the 1445 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,120 delivery it was. It popped into my head a few 1446 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,160 minutes. Ago, the acting bug is a good 1447 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,680 way to end. That that that line. 1448 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:30,560 Well done. Nico Collins thoughts in this 1449 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,200 group? I mean, I think. 1450 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,960 He's so I like. Aminara a lot from like I just 1451 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,160 Aminara is both really safe. I don't think Ben Johnson 1452 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:46,319 leaving really has that much of an effect on like Amanrah on 1453 01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:49,120 Gibbs, right? Like I think it may have an 1454 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,439 effect a little bit on like the overall efficiency of the 1455 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,520 offense, their ability to like win game score points, which 1456 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,800 will have an effect on, you know, everybody to a degree. 1457 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,720 But like, Amanrah is a target dominant wide receiver, one with 1458 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,400 an awesome connection with his quarterback. 1459 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,360 I don't think it's going to like change a ton. 1460 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,400 And you know, so I think. He's fairly safe and then. 1461 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,280 Last year he he showed a ceiling. 1462 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,400 He's a really he's a really good young wide receiver with 1463 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,320 stability in terms of like the players he's playing with, good 1464 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,520 offensive line, good connection with the quarterback. 1465 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,120 They're not going to add a lot of target competition. 1466 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,200 They probably won't. I mean, maybe they add like a 1467 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,640 big wide receiver 3 to take over for Tim Patrick, whatever, but 1468 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,440 nothing's going to like shake this up. 1469 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,600 And so if I. Was. 1470 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,440 Ordering the back end, I would have Amanrah ahead of Nico, 1471 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,920 ahead of Lamb, but I don't want to fade those guys. 1472 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,680 So I've I've just kind of like I've let I'm letting the AEP 1473 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,200 yeah kind of get won't be upset. Nico's awesome. 1474 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,120 And so. My preference, My slight 1475 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,920 preference to Amanara is not enough for me to to fade Nico. 1476 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,800 How about the Nico Collins coordinator change? 1477 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,640 There like that should be good for him, yes. 1478 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:03,840 Yes, it should. I mean, I think I I think AD 1479 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,720 honestly, I think ADP is right here. 1480 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,160 That's it. The only thing is, is it's just 1481 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:12,200 going to be very funny when the exact thing that everyone knows 1482 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,960 is going to happen, which is that the Cowboys are going to 1483 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:19,240 take Genti at 12 catapults. Genti into. 1484 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,080 This somewhere in this range of guys, it'll it's just going to 1485 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,160 be very funny when the the literal thing that everyone 1486 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,760 knows, we all have a tacit understanding. 1487 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,720 The Cowboys are taking Genti at 12 and then it's just going to 1488 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,240 happen. And then best of all, mania is 1489 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,360 going to open and it's like, dude, if you want Genti, you got 1490 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,920 to take him a pick eight one O 1. 1491 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,480 Gentsey is a Gentsey is a great. Pick right now and and like if 1492 01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:44,480 he doesn't go to the Cowboys he could very well go to the 1493 01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:48,120 Chargers. He could go to yeah, that would 1494 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,440 be a crazy for the bears, but you could see him doing it. 1495 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,800 The only spot where that I. Think A-Team could conceivably 1496 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,960 do it where he would just be like, well sucks I wasted a 1497 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,320 bunch of those big board teams. Is the 49ers. 1498 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,560 I I agree. I think that I could. 1499 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,680 Totally see them doing that in the kind of a plan, a succession 1500 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,080 plan at running back is is not the the best thing, but I could 1501 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,960 I could see, but that's just how that's just how. 1502 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,640 Shanahan, yeah, does things. Yeah. 1503 01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:15,400 The Broncos is another. Absolute smash. 1504 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,360 Oh my God. I. 1505 01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:20,560 I'm you might even prefer him with the Broncos to the Cowboys. 1506 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,280 I would, yeah. The Broncos, I think. 1507 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,560 It's my number one because their offensive line is so good. 1508 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:29,520 Davis Could he make it to 20? Genti, you know I mean. 1509 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,800 I I no. I actually think he could 1510 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,320 because if the Cowboys pass on him, you look at the, you look 1511 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,400 at the first round and you're like, which of these other teams 1512 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,400 are actually going to take a running back there? 1513 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,040 I don't think. I don't think. 1514 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,160 You're right, I guess you'd be fading. 1515 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,480 'Cause all. Most of these teams in between. 1516 01:12:49,480 --> 01:12:51,720 Have running backs, right, Arizona? 1517 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,440 Maybe you're. Fading Arizona? 1518 01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:55,480 Yeah, I could. See Arizona, It's it's the same. 1519 01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:57,240 It's the West Coast Shanahan tree. 1520 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,120 Petzig loves the running game. Maybe. 1521 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,600 But Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Arizona. 1522 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,000 Minnesota, Minnesota. Down to 24, but not after they 1523 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,360 signed Naji Harris making him 3 rounds more expensive. 1524 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,760 As soon as that happens, which is what I'm betting. 1525 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,720 I've been taking Naji man if I'm drafting. 1526 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,160 Naji, he's a good job. You can. 1527 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,640 You can bet on that. I mean, people are mentioning. 1528 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,560 Potential landing spots for him the Vikings exist and that I 1529 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,480 feel like that makes sense from all angles. 1530 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:27,440 Maybe they I think what Naji has to if you're. 1531 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,520 But this is this. Is the why Naji is? 1532 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,680 A really good pick right now is that like he's at a price where 1533 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:39,840 if he was a handcuff or a bridge running back, he's not dead. 1534 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,040 He's not dead. At this price is fine. 1535 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,320 It's. It's not your preference, but 1536 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,080 it's not a problem for the way you built your team, especially 1537 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,920 if you're drafting rookies. It's like he's going to be fine 1538 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,960 the early part of the season, but I, I do think he's fading 1539 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:57,360 like goes to Minnesota and then they draft Caleb Johnson in the 1540 01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:58,840 second round or something like that. 1541 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,840 Well, they the Bills. Have their second round pick 1542 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,240 through Houston with digs so Minnesota like oh so that's a 1543 01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,720 bad example There's well. Just just randomly. 1544 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,800 Though, Pat, like, just they, they don't have that particular 1545 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,720 pick. But I don't know, like, 1546 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,560 shouldn't we, this is where we beat our heads against the wall. 1547 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,240 Shouldn't we all know this point not to do something like that? 1548 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,320 If you're a team like that, go lean into McCarthy and Jefferson 1549 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,760 and get your running back on Saturday. 1550 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,400 It'd be fine. Yeah, but. 1551 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,000 I mean. Like the Bears. 1552 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,200 The Bears could pretty easily do like a Naji, because if you're 1553 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,760 Ben Johnson, you're like, well, there's no running back on this 1554 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,680 roster. You know, that's, that's 1555 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,080 interesting. Because of what Detroit has 1556 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,360 been. Will they? 1557 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,240 Yeah, and they have extra picks still from Bryce Young, right? 1558 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,920 So they might see them. That's an interesting running 1559 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,360 back in Round 2 for Chicago. I think it almost seems like a 1560 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:54,200 loss and they they've been. Tied to Johnson, I think you 1561 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,360 know Trayvon. Henderson would be. 1562 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,040 Really fun there. I mean, he could go first round, 1563 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,680 but yeah, I mean, obviously. Hampton would. 1564 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,280 Be really fun, Yeah, Bear. Bear's running back around too, 1565 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,120 but I mean, you could also see. Them doing something like. 1566 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,040 They bring in Naji and like Naji, Trevion would be pretty 1567 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,160 fun for the bears. I could. 1568 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,520 I could definitely. See them doing that? 1569 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,960 I could definitely see them just being like, we don't want Roshan 1570 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,160 or DeAndre Swift really. So let's just we know they don't 1571 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,240 want DeAndre Swift. That's. 1572 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,760 Been proven out but he he is under contract. 1573 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,480 Though, right? He's under contract. 1574 01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:29,760 Yeah, obviously they should trade for. 1575 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,600 Khalil. Herbert, we've had two great 1576 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,440 wide receivers from LSU. We've also now got two good ones 1577 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,440 coming up in the back half of the first round. 1578 01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:43,480 How about LSU in this thing? So did you like that synergy 1579 01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:43,840 there? You. 1580 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,600 You. You like clearly transitioned 1581 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,120 and I I picked up where you're putting down to are we going to 1582 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,280 are we are? We going to count? 1583 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,200 Are we going to count Jack Bash as part of the LSU tree? 1584 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,160 Oh, no. Let. 1585 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,840 Me. See if we have a graphic Senior 1586 01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:58,520 Bowl. Really. 1587 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,720 It's influence has really risen. No dude, I I looked this up. 1588 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,640 Because I I actually couldn't believe it. 1589 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,200 Jack Besh LED a team in receptions that had Brian 1590 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,160 Thomas, Junior Malik, neighbors Trey Palmer and Keyshawn Booty 1591 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,560 on it. Really. 1592 01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:14,680 His true. Freshman year, they. 1593 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:15,960 Were freshmen. OK, OK. 1594 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,240 Yeah, he was a freshman too. It's not like they weren't. 1595 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:19,640 Freshmen. He was also a freshman. 1596 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,480 Interesting happen. I. 1597 01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:25,800 Don't know. Why you think that is the 1598 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,800 important? Part And then what happened? 1599 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,600 He went to Med school. Some. 1600 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,920 Stuff happened, Corrine. They went to the wing. 1601 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,160 Team Yeah A. Lot of football was playing any. 1602 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,400 Receptions 9. 49. 49 OK. All right. 1603 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,080 I thought you were gonna. Say less than that he didn't. 1604 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,920 He didn't lead in Dominator. Rating obviously because that 1605 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,920 would be the part to lead with, but he did leave in in pure the 1606 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,520 actual yards was not the. The thing he dominated? 1607 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:50,800 Correct. Overrated. 1608 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,000 Davis and I with Pete last week talked up Jacksonville a little 1609 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,560 bit. I don't know, Pat, you have a 1610 01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,800 preference here between these two, strong preference, I mean. 1611 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,600 I kind of prefer. I don't know it it it's tricky 1612 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:11,200 because you have the better the better talent is neighbors, but 1613 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,240 the better situation is Thomas and I think the better situation 1614 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,120 is Thomas. Even if they like add somebody, 1615 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,160 this isn't a particularly strong wide receiver class outside of 1616 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,160 Ted McMillan, he's the only guy would be like, oh, that changes 1617 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,560 things. If they add let's say like 1618 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,480 Matthew Golden and get rid of Christian Kirk, that's probably 1619 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:33,880 a net positive for Brian Thomas. Yeah, right. 1620 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,120 Like Kirk can earn targets. He's he can earn targets. 1621 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,800 He's not great, but he can earn targets. 1622 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,240 Golden might suck. Like it's possible, right? 1623 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,560 It's not we don't just don't know. 1624 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,400 So and if he's, you know, if he's really good, mate, you 1625 01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,200 know, that could maybe even to Thomas's upside a little bit. 1626 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,680 But we also have an offense that we we could see make huge 1627 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,320 improvements in terms of the way it's designed with. 1628 01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,720 I like that Cohen and I think Davis we. 1629 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:04,400 Talked about this last week like I said I think Kirk is there his 1630 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:08,240 dead cap is pretty small 13 million why wouldn't he be there 1631 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:13,040 at 29 off that in a collarbone injury yeah, I I would say it's. 1632 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,040 Likely, maybe not, maybe not like, you know, an absolute 1633 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,960 stone lock or anything like that. 1634 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:22,920 The one that I think is is 5050 to be gone is is Ingram. 1635 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,160 It's like you you don't you don't cut Ingram just to cut 1636 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:32,160 him, but you also like you can conceivably cut him and it's 1637 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,120 it's fine. Yep, if the Giants. 1638 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,320 Get. Stafford Where does neighbors 1639 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,640 go? He might. 1640 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,120 Go he. Might just end up being like, 1641 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:43,200 right? I could. 1642 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:44,880 Does he flip? Justin Jefferson? 1643 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,520 Does he flip? Justin Jefferson, Is the 1644 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,560 question possible? Definitely possible. 1645 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,400 I think it's, I think he. Might flip Justin Jefferson. 1646 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,320 He at least enters that other graphic. 1647 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,600 Like he's in there at least. I mean, and then what's the 1648 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,520 difference at that point? But yeah, he moves up for sure. 1649 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,320 So I mean from that perspective. If this Stafford, we've had 1650 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,200 Thomas at like a pick ahead, like the market in the rankings, 1651 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,160 but that's I'm going to think through the Stafford because if 1652 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,680 Stafford goes there, like there's a lot to gain. 1653 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,160 You know that those are like that's a meaningful move. 1654 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:20,560 If you're drafting the one O 6 at at 1:11, it's pretty awesome. 1655 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,440 Do you have? By. 1656 01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:26,200 The way. Do you have a draft lot you like 1657 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,120 the most or dislike the most so far? 1658 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:31,840 I like the one. I like the one. 1659 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,640 Four, because you can. You can get. 1660 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,560 You can get, you can. Get Jefferson you can. 1661 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,240 Get Jefferson you. Can get you basically. 1662 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,840 Get one of the guys you think is in a conversation for the one O 1663 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,480 1 and then you can get one of Tyreek or Jonathan Taylor 1664 01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:48,040 depending on what you want. So it's you can potentially get 1665 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,440 Trey. McBride in the third, I think 1666 01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:51,080 Trey McBride should be going like mid second. 1667 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,440 Yeah, you have a rank to. Like 19 or something like that, 1668 01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:56,880 right? I mean, yeah, I've got him 1669 01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,920 ranked I think at 20. Four different Davis. 1670 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,480 No, no, you probably just didn't download. 1671 01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:07,240 The most recent one from last Thursday or whatever I my my 1672 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,400 Internet broke. I had him. 1673 01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:10,440 I had him up. Oh, go ahead. 1674 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,160 Sorry. Well, I just had him up very 1675 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:16,120 high and then I was like, I don't actually want to have 100% 1676 01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,920 of this guy. You don't need him that high. 1677 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:18,800 Yeah, I'm going to. Turn. 1678 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:19,840 You don't mean that That's that's. 1679 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,840 Honestly, that's how I, like I've debated like do I want to 1680 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,280 just put McBride where I think he should go or do I want to 1681 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,720 like have some exposure to the other guys here? 1682 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,640 Because I think he's just like he's like 8-9 spots too low. 1683 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,000 I think we found the line. You take neighbors over 1684 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:35,040 Jefferson. That's crazy. 1685 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,040 And then puka neighbors flip, Puka neighbors flip. 1686 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,400 So it sounds like the chat would have him behind Jefferson but 1687 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,640 ahead of puka. They'd become each other if 1688 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:44,920 Stafford. Goes to the Giants. 1689 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,760 Yeah, I guess that's right. I guess that's. 1690 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,160 Right. Yeah, I have neighbors. 1691 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,760 Over Thomas here. Pretty easily. 1692 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,080 I do like the Jacksonville bet, as we talked about last week. 1693 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,840 I don't just keep saying that, but I'm going with like still 1694 01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:04,040 the pedigree with think about just how disadvantaged you would 1695 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,400 be going to the Giants and look what happened. 1696 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,800 I mean, way worse than the Jacksonville thing. 1697 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,280 So Neighbors would be 10 at the latest for me in drafts. 1698 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,720 How about the turn? So we got a running back graphic 1699 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:24,160 here including Genti McCaffrey, HN and Derrick Henry. 1700 01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,120 Like, I know I won't be picking ever. 1701 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:33,320 Don't ask me why, but do you like a how about a running back 1702 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,360 running back start? What does that end up looking 1703 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,120 like? Pat, sorry for asking that 1704 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,520 question, but no, you don't need to live with that. 1705 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,480 You get dusted. If you do that and you miss out 1706 01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:45,840 on Worthy and Harrison 'cause then you're into the next range 1707 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,040 of guys. So you got to play it. 1708 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,640 You it's, it's because then it goes, it goes what from Worthy 1709 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,440 and Harrison to then Devonta Smith. 1710 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,160 So it's like Devonta is a fine pick, but you also have no 1711 01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,080 stacking options then. So like I just took Devont and 1712 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,440 then I had to take Jamo to have any chance of a stack partner. 1713 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,000 So then you're just like early on in drafts and I'm just. 1714 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,280 Drafting more, I, I need to like dive back in. 1715 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,240 I was travelling a bit and so I haven't drafted as much lately 1716 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,760 as I was early, but like early on in drafts, running back, 1717 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,200 running back starts were extremely viable because you 1718 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,560 could take like Tyreke Hill in the fourth round and stuff. 1719 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,560 Marvin Harrison was like there all the time. 1720 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:25,320 So it's as the wide receivers move up, this is one of the 1721 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,400 tough things is like as as wide receivers get more expensive, 1722 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,840 it's it's harder sometimes to take the running backs instead 1723 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,920 cuz you're like, now where am I going to get the wide receiver 1724 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,560 scoring? But, and it's not like that 1725 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,800 great of last year was a great wide receiver class. 1726 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,680 This year is not a great wide receiver class, not terrible, 1727 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:45,440 but it is. I mean, getting 1 running back 1728 01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:47,880 early is like super viable still. 1729 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,800 And I think you can like Dave is saying, you can pull it off. 1730 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,040 It's just a little trickier than it used to be to go running 1731 01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,960 back. HN is tough for me. 1732 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,760 At the turn just dude, I don't, I don't get. 1733 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,160 A chance ADP. At all? 1734 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:03,120 I don't understand, right, like Davis has mentioned. 1735 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,440 The Bengals a few times, like as a team, as a Chase Brown guy. 1736 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,880 But you know, Cincinnati, what we don't want to do there, 1737 01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:13,360 compliment him. To me, that's Miami where they 1738 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,640 saw what 8 Chan's value was as a compliment to Mostert. 1739 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,920 Mostert led the NFL in touchdowns 2 years ago and you 1740 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,640 had 8 Chan who was this phenomenal, you know, explosive 1741 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,560 play guy. Last year you got sort of oddly 1742 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:30,000 the receiving volume, but none of the explosive stuff. 1743 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,400 I, if I'm Miami, I want to go back to that, whether that's his 1744 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,160 weight or whatever I have to do there. 1745 01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:36,800 And then bring in, I don't know if it's Jalen Wright, but have 1746 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,120 somebody be the compliment to him, which makes him like low 1747 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,960 second round for me, yeah. I mean you look at the running 1748 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,480 back class and. Who was in it? 1749 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,480 And it's a bunch of guys who would be awesome compliments to 1750 01:23:49,480 --> 01:23:52,680 Devon a Chan Like that's that's the whole class. 1751 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,800 I mean, there's a few exceptions, but right largely 1752 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,640 and in in position where like the dolphins might spend like a 1753 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,600 third or fourth round pick on a guy. 1754 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,400 That guy is, you know, very likely to be an awesome 1755 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:10,760 compliment to a Chan type like a like a Damian. 1756 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,240 Martinez. Klell Mullings in day three, 1757 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,120 like those guys. Or you could go more expensive 1758 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:16,920 and say like, could this be a Judkins team? 1759 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,920 So let me, let me do the devil's. 1760 01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:23,080 Advocate thing, which is you. You actually might prefer a Chan 1761 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,280 with this complimentary guy where he can lose. 1762 01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:31,640 He can lose 10 lbs and spend all offseason being quick. 1763 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,080 Not like, oh, I'm going to get tackled 230 times and Tua stays 1764 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,600 healthy and they figure out a little bit of something in the 1765 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:42,000 offensive line and then all of a sudden he's he's. 1766 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,240 Rookie A Chan again. Yeah, but. 1767 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,200 I I just don't. It's not that a Chan can't pay 1768 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:54,640 off, but it's weird to have to pay like we're paying locked in 1769 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:55,880 volume. Prices. 1770 01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,920 Right for what's best, like our best outcome. 1771 01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:02,520 Is sort of like a. A return to talent bet. 1772 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,920 It's like a bounce back talent bet, but you have to pay for all 1773 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,920 this volume that he got last year in kind of like a weird 1774 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,760 situation that we don't think they they will want to repeat 1775 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,120 and that he's and it's pretty fragile to to even look like it 1776 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,720 will repeat. You know, like there's just a 1777 01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:23,000 lot of guys in this draft class that would look to eat in to 1778 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,520 Devon A Chan's early down workload, especially then we get 1779 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,440 any comments about, well, he's such a good receiver, we're 1780 01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:30,040 going to keep him involved, but we want to have more of a 1781 01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,680 Thunder and lightning approach. Like if you give me a Chan at 1782 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:37,560 like a early third round price post draft, post them drafting a 1783 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,800 you know, a an early down guy or whatever, like sure, that sounds 1784 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,640 good, but I don't know, it's just like it just seems. 1785 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,720 What do you what do you think his price will? 1786 01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,360 Be if they take Damien Martinez in the third round. 1787 01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:54,120 I think he would probably be in the. 1788 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,840 Early third round at the AT. The latest? 1789 01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,600 I would have I would have an infinite. 1790 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,880 Amount, I mean, I think, I think I would actually maybe late 1791 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,240 second, then maybe late 2nd. Like if he was going after. 1792 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:09,160 Bucky. But I mean, we OK, so we took 1793 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,400 Tony. Pollard, when the backfield was 1794 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,800 to himself and he was coming off an efficient season, we took him 1795 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:23,480 in the late 2nd a chance coming off a really, I mean so so 1796 01:26:23,480 --> 01:26:24,760 Brett's. Saying a. 1797 01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,320 Pack rain, Ney chain bear. Venus must be in retrograde. 1798 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,400 HN had one of the least efficient rushing seasons in the 1799 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,400 league last year. Yeah, like of all time. 1800 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:34,800 Yeah, and. He gained. 1801 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,240 He gained weight. And he basically was like, look, 1802 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:38,720 I'm gonna I'm gonna change who I am. 1803 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,640 I'm gonna be more of like the complete running back. 1804 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,240 Let me let me try that. It didn't work. 1805 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,200 It's like, it's like two people in an unhappy. 1806 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,560 Relationship and HN was like sure man, I'll I'll change I'll 1807 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,160 change, I'll change and he actually became a worse version 1808 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,920 of himself changing into being that relationship so like. 1809 01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,000 We did it. We did the. 2nd year. 1810 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,480 Thing he got used a bunch more as a receiver, but I I'm 1811 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:04,000 thinking of a Chan as like he's he's. 1812 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,520 More of a He's more of an Aaron. Jones, I'm thinking of him in 1813 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,160 that archetype now. I would like to see him more as 1814 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,040 an Aaron Jones type. Do I want to pay? 1815 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,360 And I never paid 1-2 turn prices for Aaron Jones. 1816 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,920 I never did that. He always wanted the 2-3 turn. 1817 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,160 You know, that's, that's kind of where I'm at with a Chan. 1818 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,880 I I don't think I think his the upside of like, dude, this guy, 1819 01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,760 what if he gains a little weight and takes on everything and is 1820 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,360 still awesome as a rush? Well, he wasn't at all. 1821 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,080 He was terrible actually as a runner. 1822 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,040 Yeah, he wasn't. Yeah, Venus. 1823 01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,840 Not in retrograde. Until Saturday, by the way, for 1824 01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,720 those keeping score at home. And I look forward to getting 1825 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,440 astrology pop up ads after having searched that they're 1826 01:27:43,440 --> 01:27:45,080 coming. They're coming. 1827 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,760 Risers, ADP, chasing. We've got a few names here, a 1828 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,840 couple rookies. The combine this week, we talked 1829 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,840 about that a lot at the top. Romandre Stevenson. 1830 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:57,920 Hayden, be careful. Hayden has. 1831 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:02,200 Been doing this Romandre propaganda and obviously the 1832 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,760 people who are drafting an underdog all follow Hayden winks 1833 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,840 and all watch the football show with Josh and Hayden and he he's 1834 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,320 just been him him and Josh actually have been doing the 1835 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,000 romandre propaganda to which I have to say you really better 1836 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,120 hope that they that Romandre Stevenson does not have to learn 1837 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,400 any of these guys, anybody, anybody. 1838 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,560 Here let me get the list. Of names he doesn't. 1839 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,360 Have to learn. Yeah, Please, please you. 1840 01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:30,800 Really. Better hope I got their cards, 1841 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:32,400 yeah? Is he? 1842 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:33,840 Is he learning? Is he learning? 1843 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,040 Jordan James, Is he learning any of these? 1844 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,320 Guys goes to New England. Yeah, seriously. 1845 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,000 That's where that's. Where his ADP falls, as long as 1846 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,960 he avoids all those guys, it's a great, it's a great price. 1847 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,520 I I think, I think. I would say. 1848 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:52,880 He is the number one most fragile running. 1849 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,640 Back situation like. By far, I would say, I would say 1850 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,680 #1 of 32. Well, DeAndre Swift still gets 1851 01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,480 drafted, so I I. Would put him there Swift. 1852 01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:04,000 OK, here's the. Here's the argument. 1853 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,640 You can make for Swift though. Anywhere he plays he is at least 1854 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,480 fast. Like at least DeAndre Swift 1855 01:29:10,480 --> 01:29:15,480 theoretically can be a pace in space, you know gets. 1856 01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:19,120 There on 11 touches a. Game guy you you. 1857 01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,480 You absolutely cannot make that case with Romandre. 1858 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,600 Romandre needs 18 touches a game, right? 1859 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,160 And and and so. Jordan James is a worse from 1860 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,800 Andre Stevenson. I love the Jordan James call out 1861 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,640 as as a guy to worry about. Jordan James is a new Romandre 1862 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,480 Stevenson drafted by the guys in charge. 1863 01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:39,880 That's that's what it would be, right? 1864 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,160 Like if we think Jordan James is worse than Madre Stevenson. 1865 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,560 Doesn't matter if a team just spent a third round pick on 1866 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,560 Jordan James. Many, many, many, many. 1867 01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,520 Such cases of this, yeah, I, I think. 1868 01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,040 Stevenson's probably he's not terrible at this price, but it 1869 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:57,760 is he moves up. Yeah, he's fine. 1870 01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:01,080 He's fine as he moves up. You just have to be like aware 1871 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,880 that you might be drafting a backup down the stretch. 1872 01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,240 This this might be an I could sorry early season. 1873 01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,480 Bet I could see new. England. 1874 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,800 Under Vrabel, with everybody knows it, everybody talks about 1875 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,560 how lacking for weapons. They are getting into that 1876 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:21,640 running back free agent pool that everybody hates and holding 1877 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,920 up a shiny new toy to go with Stevenson. 1878 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,440 I mean, Stevenson has always invited. 1879 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,240 I don't know, like, remember last year we he was going to be 1880 01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,800 benched at different times and sort of he, it's not like rock 1881 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,720 solid. So he was benched and Mayo 1882 01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,160 forgot to do it. Yeah, right, right. 1883 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,160 But he sort. Of invited that you know, sign 1884 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:45,080 Javonte Williams or somebody like that and make it even more 1885 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,640 if he signs Javonte Williams then. 1886 01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:48,480 Stevenson should probably be a third round pick. 1887 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,520 So, so Crane, I was hoping. We, I was hoping we would get 1888 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,480 here to Javonte cause I've I've moved Javonte up quite a bit in 1889 01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:58,040 my rankings. I like it too. 1890 01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,080 Not because I like. Javonte I. 1891 01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,480 Actually think Javonte is is mostly toast that that he 1892 01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:05,280 basically just never came back from the knee injury. 1893 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,640 But yeah, the more you think about. 1894 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:08,720 This running back. Class. 1895 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,760 And the more I think about philosophically the way some NFL 1896 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,920 coaches are, obviously not all, but some of them are going to 1897 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,560 prefer the devil they do know to the devil they don't know. 1898 01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:21,120 And they're going to say I don't need Bashel 210. 1899 01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,480 I don't. I don't need Damian Martinez. 1900 01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:27,880 I don't need Quinchon Judkins. I need Javonte Williams. 1901 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,040 I'm going to sign Javonte Williams for two years. 1902 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,720 You know what he is, Pat. He's Zach Moss. 1903 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,720 He's Yeah, but that's Pat Mosss. It's good. 1904 01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,520 For where? He's being drafted in. 1905 01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:39,440 OK, You're right. You're right. 1906 01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:40,560 He's so cheap. It's fine. 1907 01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,680 He's he's running back 50 now if. 1908 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:47,760 Javonte gets signed by the Chargers or the Bengals or 1909 01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,120 wherever, and he goes to the running back 29. 1910 01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,920 That is like a you just cross him off. 1911 01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,480 You just say, yeah, yeah, yeah. You say, hey, thanks. 1912 01:31:54,480 --> 01:31:56,760 For your service. Javonte, I will let someone else 1913 01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,120 take you. No, you're right. 1914 01:31:58,120 --> 01:31:59,360 You're right. It's it's the base. 1915 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,400 Shell Tooting prices then Javonte's totally fine, but I 1916 01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:05,680 don't think. He's coming from one of the best 1917 01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:07,920 offensive lines in the. League, probably the second best 1918 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,640 offensive line, right? You you'd probably have it like 1919 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,320 Eagles, Broncos, Lions last year. 1920 01:32:13,480 --> 01:32:15,360 We'll always have that game where I declared. 1921 01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:19,880 His career over against the New Orleans Saints and he was huge, 1922 01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,360 a huge game. Thursday night, yeah, all the 1923 01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,680 free, all the free agent running backs, there are like 3 where I 1924 01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,280 think you can, as we say, tell yourself the story. 1925 01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,600 Naji is 1 and Dowdell might be one. 1926 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,800 The other guys are older off Achilles chairs. 1927 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,520 And then there's and then there's Javonte Williams I. 1928 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,320 Mean. I agree with this point. 1929 01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,320 I I like drafting him too. For his price I I think you 1930 01:32:42,440 --> 01:32:43,640 could. I think you could tell. 1931 01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:48,000 Yourself a story that most NFL teams would view Javonte as the 1932 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:52,120 running back 2 of this free agency class and and say we 1933 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:56,000 would rather have that than spend a draft pick on. 1934 01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,440 And for whatever. Denver's line was nobody. 1935 01:33:00,440 --> 01:33:04,560 Else did anything either, so it's not like he got shown up by 1936 01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:06,760 anybody on that team. Well, he's going to get shown up 1937 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,960 by Ashton Gente once. Once he gets there, but yeah, I 1938 01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,680 mean, I, I mean we have we have Javonte like exactly at a DPI 1939 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,320 think he's a totally fine pick there. 1940 01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:16,640 OK. There is upside just in. 1941 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,000 Landing spot there is. Upside Crane, I'll make our 1942 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,600 favorite point. For us really quick. 1943 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,040 Hey, yeah, we're we're getting these comments. 1944 01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,240 All the patriots they have all these holes would make no sense. 1945 01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:25,760 Take a running back. I promise you, guys. 1946 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:27,600 I promise you. Be on promise. 1947 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,320 Be on promise. You know what NFL coaches view 1948 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,720 as a whole? The running back position? 1949 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:33,480 Yeah. You. 1950 01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,000 You. It might not matter to you. 1951 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,160 Might not matter to me. Matters to them. 1952 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,040 Not every coach, but you. You want. 1953 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,280 You don't want you. Want to know who views running 1954 01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,040 back as the most important position on offense? 1955 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:48,080 The former Tennessee Titans coach. 1956 01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:49,640 A coach of the Titan. A.J. 1957 01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,520 Brown. Yeah, traded A.J. 1958 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,160 Brown. I, I think I mean the Patriots. 1959 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,520 Should not spend any capital on a running back. 1960 01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,280 I agree, but like they might, they might. 1961 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,400 They absolutely. Might so I, like Howard Gordon, 1962 01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:06,960 had a. Draft pick for them both that 1963 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,080 would have me every agency is probably what they should do 1964 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,000 they. Should probably like have a 1965 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,320 team, they should probably add Nashi, you know, and just be 1966 01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:15,680 like, all right, we're we're good. 1967 01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:18,960 It was not that expensive, you know, something like that as 1968 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:22,440 opposed to spending draft capital at the position they 1969 01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:24,120 got. I mean, but they got to they got 1970 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,760 to fix the line. They just they should not draft 1971 01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,520 a running back or bring in a running back and just spend a 1972 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,680 ton of money online. They got to fix it all. 1973 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,520 Get a wide receiver. Yeah, Fallers, our final. 1974 01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,400 Our final graphic of the day, The Fallers, is more of a wait, 1975 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,520 can we talk RJ Harvey real quick? 1976 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:40,360 This. Yeah, please. 1977 01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:41,480 This Could I? I thought it was. 1978 01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:43,880 Going to be pretty out on. RJ Harvey, because if you watch 1979 01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,920 him, he like there's plays where he'll like run towards like a 1980 01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:53,440 gigantic hole and then be like and this bounce it like super 1981 01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:56,640 far outside and he's so fast that he can pull that off. 1982 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,880 She's like, I don't know, man, this guy looks like or is the 1983 01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:02,720 NFL going to be into this kind of seems like the. 1984 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,000 NFL is in this sounds like yes. Yeah, yeah, seems. 1985 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,080 Like the NFL is pretty into this. 1986 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,480 And, and, you know, I, I'm watching highlights, I'm not 1987 01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:11,800 like grinding the tape there. The stuff on Harvey as far as 1988 01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,280 like, can he go between the tackles? 1989 01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:14,520 He actually seems to be pretty positive. 1990 01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,320 I I I believe in. This guy as a as a runner. 1991 01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,640 I wonder if it's one of those things where. 1992 01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,800 That archetype of running back is actually scarce in this 1993 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,520 class. There's way more of the other 1994 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:28,080 type. There's way it's like not the 1995 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,480 Liget class, the Mingo class. Mingo was like the only big guy 1996 01:35:31,480 --> 01:35:34,560 in that class and so so it. Was like Oh well if you want 1997 01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:35,680 that. Prototype of guy, you got to 1998 01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,200 take. Mingo you got to take. 1999 01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:38,600 A terrible version you got to take. 2000 01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:39,960 You got to take a terrible version of. 2001 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,560 It and you got to take him a pick 33 or whatever. 2002 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:47,720 So I, so I do, I do think that, that, that that's my guess. 2003 01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,480 And I think same thing with Jordan James too, by the way. 2004 01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:52,440 Yeah, and and and Brett's saying. 2005 01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:54,680 There's there's running backs that'll go rounds two and three 2006 01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:58,120 being undrafted. Jordan James, and he's in, He's 2007 01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,640 in. Like a Bruegler's top. 100 I, I 2008 01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,960 wasn't really into Jordan James until I saw that if you take a 2009 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,640 running back with like any interesting college profile 2010 01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,800 whatsoever and you give him like pick 90, he is draftable in a 20 2011 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,600 round format. That's, that's all it takes. 2012 01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,480 OK, if he if there's any anything to to Jordan James 2013 01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:18,800 going top 100. He is a screaming value. 2014 01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,560 We we moved him up a bunch in the last few days on on that 2015 01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:26,800 type of steam. But but Harvey also I. 2016 01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:30,680 Believe, I think he was 90. Five in in Bruegler's top 100 2017 01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,560 and and I'm not only seeing Bruegler on Harvey, it seems 2018 01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:37,000 like Harvey is, you know, very live to go. 2019 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,000 Let's say by the middle of the fourth round, he'll be off the 2020 01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,680 board. He's got a pretty interesting. 2021 01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,520 Profile with that level. Of draft capital because he can 2022 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,040 catch passes. So even if he isn't like a real 2023 01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,320 between the tackles guy and he's small, he's undersized. 2024 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:54,520 I think he's like in the 190's or something, but he's as a as a 2025 01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:58,080 versatile back with speed. I I like him a lot at this at 2026 01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,360 this price, like I, I think he can move up like another 20 2027 01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:01,280 picks. I'd still be into it. 2028 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:04,440 I agree. Fallers is mostly. 2029 01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:09,840 A quarterback list is the market sort of like regressing on how 2030 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,680 early they want to take the top guys here. 2031 01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,560 Two of the top 3 here, Alan and Jackson listed. 2032 01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:16,920 Yeah, it's really, it's really it all is well and. 2033 01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,040 Kareem Hunt and Mahomes specifically. 2034 01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:24,200 There was this period two weeks ago before the Super Bowl where 2035 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:28,120 where a bunch of people who don't know English were drafting 2036 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,520 in these leagues and these drafts got thrown out. 2037 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,480 But they're not in the contest where people were just taking 2038 01:37:33,480 --> 01:37:37,680 Eagles and Chiefs players. So all the all the Chiefs are 2039 01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,760 falling. Because all the chiefs are, 2040 01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,560 yeah, they're. Thinking they were just drafting 2041 01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:42,280 for the Super. Bowl. 2042 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:44,400 They thought they were just drafting for the Super. 2043 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:45,520 Bowl. Yeah. 2044 01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:46,560 Interesting. Yeah. 2045 01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,960 Yeah. But. 2046 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,160 Yeah, like, I don't know. I. 2047 01:37:51,440 --> 01:37:54,240 I, the elite quarterbacks are not really for me in this 2048 01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,320 contest. And that is why I don't win. 2049 01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,520 You know, it's just the, the, the two V twos are just too 2050 01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,600 difficult, man. There's no, there's no certainty 2051 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,200 in the later rounds, but you can take Geno and you're like, well, 2052 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:08,760 Geno's probably gonna be starting. 2053 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,880 So it's just like, sure, yeah, maybe you'll need Josh Allen to 2054 01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:20,280 win, but I'm like, OK, I'm passing on DJ Moore to take Josh 2055 01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:24,280 Allen and then I'm passing on Savion Williams to take Geno 2056 01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:25,880 Smith. Like, I know which one of those 2057 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,600 sides I prefer. Oh, DJ Moore, go ahead. 2058 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,520 I'm sorry. DJ Moore was the other guy. 2059 01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,240 We were talking about the bears earlier. 2060 01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,800 I've. Keenan Allen's gone the. 2061 01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,120 Other guy? That's the other guy. 2062 01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,040 Yeah, that's the guy. Wow, how glad. 2063 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:43,720 His name was Holland. Yeah. 2064 01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,560 The. The thing with the Holmes? 2065 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:49,720 Is he? He's not really an elite. 2066 01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,280 Quarterback. Now as far as bad, no, he's not. 2067 01:38:54,440 --> 01:38:56,160 Well, I mean just by a D. Pi purely. 2068 01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,240 Mean by No, I I mean it. I mean it. 2069 01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:03,000 For fantasy, unless there is a market, we're we're talking A2 2070 01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:08,160 year trend of him being an average fantasy quarterback with 2071 01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,480 a really low floor. That's maybe even the bigger 2072 01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:15,320 deal is they'll they'll go on a four-game win streak where he 2073 01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:18,960 scored like 12 fantasy points per game, which, you know, 2074 01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,480 Lamar's just never doing that, but he's priced like that. 2075 01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:24,600 A. Little bit now, I mean he's he's 2076 01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,960 behind Burrow now, right. So I think there's a pretty good 2077 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:30,800 argument you should. Take Goths and Baker a lot. 2078 01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:33,200 Prescott is still my favorite too. 2079 01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:37,840 Purdy, all those guys in that in that stretch, OK. 2080 01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,560 Prescott is a great great. Value. 2081 01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,960 Yes, he is, yeah. Any thoughts? 2082 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:46,440 On. Fantasy Mojo tweeting about how, 2083 01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:50,080 having watched an FFPC stream, that whoever won the playoff 2084 01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,600 challenge didn't know who Brock Bowers was. 2085 01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:54,520 Yeah. What's the So Mike, your tweet 2086 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:54,760 was? Gone. 2087 01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:56,160 I was supposed to pull it up, but it's gone now. 2088 01:39:56,480 --> 01:39:58,080 I I took it back because we went. 2089 01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:01,440 You know, we, we didn't get there, but but we're here now, 2090 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:03,480 are we? Here we are. 2091 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,640 You. Don't have to be you. 2092 01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,160 You don't have to be intelligent to win a fantasy football. 2093 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,080 And in fact, I think you could make an argument that being 2094 01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,960 intelligent actively come on, man, holds holds you back. 2095 01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,920 Ouch. Is it an intelligence thing or 2096 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:18,440 just sort? Of like, maybe we're a little 2097 01:40:18,440 --> 01:40:20,240 bit too obsessed. Does it make you? 2098 01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,480 Yeah. Being, being, being. 2099 01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:26,120 Obsessed does not help you win. Didn't play. 2100 01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:29,360 Season long. Didn't know who Daniels. 2101 01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:30,920 And. Mcconkey were until after the 2102 01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,800 season and doesn't know who Bowers is. 2103 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,560 Won. Won pretty good prize. 2104 01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:40,320 Won a good prize. Also it's. 2105 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,320 Like me in baseball right here. A great. 2106 01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:47,600 Lesson that. Gambling contests, are they? 2107 01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:48,760 They don't care about your feelings. 2108 01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:49,800 They don't care how smart you are. 2109 01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:53,320 They don't care how much you think you should win, you know? 2110 01:40:53,480 --> 01:40:57,440 It none of that matters. None of that matters, so to pull 2111 01:40:57,440 --> 01:40:58,880 back. From the brink of nihilism here, 2112 01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,680 I'll just note that there was a lot of chalk that hit this year. 2113 01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,360 So it was if if you were going to go into a a tournament not 2114 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:10,000 knowing who Brock Bowers is in a tight end premium format, this 2115 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,440 was the year. This was a good year to just 2116 01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:15,920 draft the names that you did know that had been in the league 2117 01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,280 longer than a year. Yeah. 2118 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:20,240 Why wouldn't you just do that? Draft the players you've heard 2119 01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:21,520 of. Why wouldn't you just do that? 2120 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:23,800 I would do that, yeah. Makes sense. 2121 01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:25,680 It was a good year to draft the players you've heard of. 2122 01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,480 Oh my God, yeah, this would have been an. 2123 01:41:29,480 --> 01:41:32,200 Unbelievable year. Oh, I I know who Joe Burrow is. 2124 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:35,440 I know who Derrick Henry is. I know who Sequel Mark is. 2125 01:41:35,480 --> 01:41:37,440 I know who. Adam Thielen. 2126 01:41:37,440 --> 01:41:41,680 Is I know who Quentin Johnston? That guy probably didn't know 2127 01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,440 who Quentin Johnston was. No, he didn't. 2128 01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,680 That was Johnson. Didn't really bury you. 2129 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:47,600 He's just like a fine pick to have made. 2130 01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,440 It's not fair to my son at. 15 But he did win his league 2131 01:41:51,440 --> 01:41:52,840 running away. He. 2132 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,240 He. Knows more than that. 2133 01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,680 Guy maybe, but just not, not everybody. 2134 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,200 OK boys, what's new this week from you combine? 2135 01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:07,520 We'll we'll be on later today. Or no, we're actually not 2136 01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,120 streaming that. We're I'm jumping on with the 2137 01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:10,360 crew where you're talking through the rankings. 2138 01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,120 We'll stream something later on this week. 2139 01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:17,200 Talking to the leg up rankings, generally speaking is. 2140 01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:21,240 Do we overreact to this week? Is maybe the the edge not 2141 01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,040 overreacting to this week or the other way around? 2142 01:42:24,480 --> 01:42:27,120 I think people. Overreact. 2143 01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:31,720 People just react like inconsistently to this week, 2144 01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:37,360 like for example last year Vlad Mcconkey coming in crazy 2145 01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:42,160 athletic who? Sorry, fundamentally. 2146 01:42:42,440 --> 01:42:43,320 Fundamental. No, that's. 2147 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:45,480 That's a good one, fundamentally. 2148 01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:47,960 Changed. My perception of him, I'm like, 2149 01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:51,040 oh, the, I thought this guy was the lunch pail guy. 2150 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,160 This guy's a a freak athlete. That's that's different, you 2151 01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:59,920 know, so, so there was a, a shift and I think that shift was 2152 01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:02,280 important for us. Now maybe the NFL, you know, 2153 01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:03,680 with like better tracking data and stuff. 2154 01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,360 It already understood who he was. 2155 01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:08,960 But for me, it was a opportunity for me to kind of get right on 2156 01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:13,120 my like my understanding of the player, I don't think. 2157 01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:15,880 We want to like triple. Count athleticism, you know, 2158 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:19,120 like we're the running the fastest time ever moved him up 2159 01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,720 and that rightfully so. But like in most cases we're 2160 01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:24,880 kind of confirming stuff like, oh, this guy's going to be 2161 01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,240 really fast. Oh, he is really fast and then 2162 01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:33,160 that can sometimes get overrated guys being unathletic can get 2163 01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,920 overrated. You know where it's like, OK, he 2164 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,680 he's not super athletic, but he was productive. 2165 01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:40,160 Like this would be the Bucky Irving thing. 2166 01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:42,680 Like he and we've done this with a few running backs, Bucky 2167 01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,720 Irving car and Williams where they're like once the wrass is 2168 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:49,120 below like like 8I. Don't care. 2169 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:54,040 Like, and the fact the fact that it's like 3 or 4, like, OK, 2170 01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:55,560 he's. Not athletic, you know he. 2171 01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,400 He's going to have to do it with like, you know, being a really 2172 01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,560 good football player. Oh, but he was super productive 2173 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:01,880 and he looks like a really good football player. 2174 01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,280 So that's it. Doesn't like we shouldn't like 2175 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,960 get like really over aggressively punishing guys for 2176 01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:10,880 being super unathletic unless there's a concern they're not 2177 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,120 going to get drafted Now at that point then sure. 2178 01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:17,280 But the other thing I would say too is that at the very top, and 2179 01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,920 I see this usually a tight end, there's always a guy who's got 2180 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:25,240 like a 9.99 Ras and he becomes Theo Johnson, Theo Johnson, the 2181 01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:29,480 Zach Koontz, the Jelani Woods. He becomes like the tight end 2182 01:44:29,480 --> 01:44:32,960 one for people. And it's like, no, this guy's 2183 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,200 not good. You know, like whoever has and, 2184 01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,040 and it's especially frustrating when like Sam Laporta has like a 2185 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,360 9.7 Ras. It's like, who cares? 2186 01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:42,960 He's not he's not the most athletic. 2187 01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:46,040 So don't get wrapped up in who the most athletic tight end is. 2188 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,880 Look at who all the athletic tight ends are because it's 2189 01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,000 important to be athletic. But you don't have to be the 2190 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,120 most athletic. Don't pass on Aidan Hutchinson 2191 01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:55,640 because he's not the most athletic. 2192 01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,280 Don't don't be that guy. Correct way to respond is to. 2193 01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,520 Read the tea. Leaves and get the. 2194 01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,200 Information from the mock drafts and everything. 2195 01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,920 What does this do to these guys? Draft capital like Isaiah Bond 2196 01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,320 right now is the what? The wide receiver, 65 or 2197 01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:14,640 whatever in the big board, he's going to run A42, whatever he's 2198 01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:16,120 gonna. And then all of a sudden it's 2199 01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:19,040 gonna be like, oh, Isaiah Bond might actually be a first round 2200 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:21,040 pick. And I'll tell you what though, 2201 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,280 if he runs A4. Two and it's like he's a good 2202 01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,680 he's a good day three edition you better run it like so over 2203 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,760 and. It's like it's like, so OK, that 2204 01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,280 is so funny. If Bond runs that time and 2205 01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:35,360 people are like, yeah, you know, maybe a special teams 2206 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,880 contributor. It's like, dude, try and try and 2207 01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,680 trade in the teams you have that you haven't already. 2208 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:43,400 Anyways, be like, I, I'm pressing the surrender button on 2209 01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:47,080 Isaiah because I I like Isaiah Bond based on that movement. 2210 01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,800 But if that is the talk, if he does run this crazy time and 2211 01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,120 it's like, yeah, you know, kind of like Taekwon Thornton, it's 2212 01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,920 going to be like abort mission, abort, get off immediately 2213 01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:58,880 because he's expected. He's one of those guys. 2214 01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,240 Isaiah Bond is expected to be quite fast, like very, very 2215 01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,640 fast. So yeah, if you don't, if you 2216 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,320 don't hear about him in the in the first round or early Round 2 2217 01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,080 after he runs a really fast time. 2218 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,600 Not yet super. Over good advice. 2219 01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:16,840 Pat Davis, thank you. We'll see you in March. 2220 01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:21,320 Look forward to your content this week and enjoy the combine. 2221 01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:22,480 Thanks for watching and listening. 2222 01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:24,080 I'm Mike Shope, goodbye for now.