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Hi there, I'm Mike Shope with 
Pat Karein and Davis Matic. 

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It's ADP chasing for the finally
end of the best ball regular 

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season. 
One more game to go and then we 

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decide whether, I mean, where do
you start? 

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Keyshawn Vaughn is the guy you 
need. 

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I don't know, but not all your 
entries will lose, but most and 

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we might, you know, want to say 
our goodbyes to those as we lean

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into the best ball playoffs. 
Thanks for being with us today 

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with Pat and Davis. 
I'm Mike. 

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This is ADP chasing December 
9th, 2024. 

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ADP chasing is for when you 
watch ship chasing you go these 

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guys are just football guys and 
the targets for outrun leagues. 

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That's going to be really nice 
actually, back in if it's 

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Austinette. 
Compared to our crystal ball. 

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Close your eyes, you know all 
your entries are going to lose 

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anyway. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

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This is a Dusvan show. 
It's. 

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Anti cabal, it's anti the best 
ball thought leader. 

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I'm obviously lying to some 
degree 'cause like, I have a lot

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of both of these guys. 
It's the most disgusting thing 

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you can make, but man. 
Let's go. 

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Hi guys. 
Our heroes Pat and Davis. 

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I definitely felt some sadness, 
some jealousy when it came to 

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Dog Bowl this weekend. 
Maybe Pat, I should have entered

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it. 
Yeah, that is generally how one 

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gets to go to the dog bowl. 
I didn't really enter it either.

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You know, the newborn, the 
having a newborn, the newborn's 

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not sleeping right now. 
So she's also not a newborn. 

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She's like 8 months. 
She's like, I was going to say 

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she's like 8 months old dude. 
You can't get away with. 

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Sleeping about as well as a 
newborn so she's she's a newborn

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until she can sleep through the 
night it's. 

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Wait, Pat, remember the rule of 
Pete? 

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She's 0. 
We always round to years, so 

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she's not one. 
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We can round up, we can round up
to one now she's. 

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She's close to like 110. 
Yeah, but yeah, it looked like 

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fun though. 
It sounded like a fun time. 

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Yeah, it looked like a fun time.
How? 

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I guess how serious FOMO for 
those things? 

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Literally, literally none. 
Yeah, yeah, I, I don't know. 

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I, I, I'm just a stick in the 
mud, bro. 

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It's, it's, it's, it's very much
not for me. 

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It's I, it's anti cabal of me to
not want to go to the cabal 

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event. 
What can we get data? 

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From New York, You, you, you can
have a good time. 

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You're not. 
Yeah, that wasn't, that wasn't 

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Cabal, though. 
That was we were, we were, you 

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know, just sitting. 
Sitting me, That's a cabal 

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adjacent. 
Cabal adjacent. 

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Cabal adjacent for sure. 
Yeah, that was a good. 

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Time Team names are being you 
know sent to R&D for next year 

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Cabal adjacent. 
What do we get Davis through 

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like I I've met Pat a a few 
times and different to the the 

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Expo in Vegas and I'm not 
everywhere, but I even have been

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talking. 
I have a friend in Saint Louis. 

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No pressure Davis you know you 
and I have not had this 

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conversation, but I have a 
friend in Saint Louis. 

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I love to go there and see a 
ball game every couple of years.

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We've got Roto Pat in Saint 
Louis, right? 

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Like, I mean, maybe we have to 
go to him, Pat. 

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Do you? 
Do you GM? 

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I play, yeah. 
That's you can get me, you can 

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Get Me Out of the house to to 
golf. 

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Generally, generally that will 
I'll I'll do, I'll do a golf 

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trip. 
To play, yeah, OK. 

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Yeah, to play all. 
Right. 

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We've got Ryder Cup that this is
not, we're not going to play in 

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the Ryder Cup. 
We've got that in New York 

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State. 
I'm stretching it. 

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It's about 8 hours away at 
Bethpage this year. 

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But all right, noted. 
We'll talk about that either of 

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you guys. 
So I'm in Buffalo and I'm 

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working on the Bills network. 
We had a 425 game the Eastern 

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yesterday. 
So that affords me sort of the 

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1:00. 
I mean, just it felt right with 

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my family's other stuff to sort 
of watch the 1:00 games. 

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And by 1:15, I was thinking of 
you guys in terms of like, is 

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Saquon Barclays dud a week 
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Like it you had a big game. 
Well, play early. 

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I'm not watching the game. 
I don't know if he's hurt or 

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what's happening. 
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crossed your minds. 
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Of course, not a huge game for 
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still in on pace to break the 
record. 

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Yeah, I downplayed the the Giant
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from a best ball perspective in 
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to have, because he's already 
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for like the teams that pushed 
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not even that good, you know, or
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But I'd also downplay this dud. 
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He's still going to smash. 
So yeah, I mean, as far as like,

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if you don't have Saquon and you
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this does nothing for you and 
you're still in the exact same 

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situation you were last week 
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The the bigger issue it is 
actually in the context of best 

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ball is that Barclay teams are 
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dust like the worst possible 
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The bigger issue was guys who 
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Darnold, Jefferson, Addison, 
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These guys, like Puka Nakua was 
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I'm going to guess, I have not 
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I'm going to guess he is now a 
positive advance rate player. 

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Josh Allen was a negative 
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I'm gonna guess he is. 
I'm gonna guess the Josh Allen 

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swing from yesterday is the 
biggest single week swing in 

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advance rate of any player. 
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being on my my most drafted 
list, I believe he was my fifth 

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most drafted player overall, 
having his best game of the 

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season. 
I lost teams yesterday. 

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I lost some teams too. 
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chunk of that was puka teams 
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teams. 
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What can you do? 
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we haven't talked about 
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A lot of this show since at 
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sort of reflecting on what we 
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season that's gone by. 
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a fantasy stat, but you look at 
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and it kind of can blow your 
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I mean, it's Geno Smith up top. 
Cousins make sense. 

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Burrow makes sense. 
Then it's Mayfield Lamar, of 

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course. 
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been in sort of the darn old 
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But I might just that that's 
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But you know, if Jameis Winston,
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Jameis would be on this list 
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Got guys who were may be 
interesting think about go back 

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to fantasy football, think about
dynasty or whatever five to 

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seven years ago and they're 
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It's just kind of a weird year 
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What what was the right overall 
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quarterback? 
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yesterday Pat, but still like I 
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running them in. 
Hilarious again yesterday with 

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Barclay just getting stopped at 
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Well, I mean, it's a strange 
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round hits weren't really 
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Jameis was, you know, not even a
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He wasn't on the radar. 
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I mean, for most of the 
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McCarthy would eventually be 
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you know, well before now and 
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hurt, Donald wasn't like a big 
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Russell Wilson, we had the whole
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that kept his ADP way low. 
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really like to have now just 
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I mean, but at the same time, 
you do have like Baker's been a 

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big hit. 
There have been some big hits. 

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Jane Daniels was a big hit and 
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digit rounds. 
So there were a ton of ways to 

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play later round quarterback. 
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think that the elite 
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picks than like I feel like they
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Lamar and Henry. 
I wasn't pairing Lamar and Hertz

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and Saquon. 
Do you have those? 

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If you have like Hertz, Saquon 
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Tell you what, man, I, I don't 
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was really overweight on Hertz 
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They, they, the Eagles very low 
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Chiefs era in the sense that 
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dude, we're we're. 
Good here. 

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We're good. 
Let's, let's get, let's just 

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call, let's just call 22 points 
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And, and by the way, I don't 
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A.J. 
Brown yesterday and you guys 

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catch this in the press 
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They said, what can you guys 
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And he just deadpan looks at the
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And they go, do you want to 
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And he says passing. 
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Not very Gucci headbands of of 
Jalen Hurts. 

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Although let me tell you the the
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Grant Calcaterra, who I have to 
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fantasy community who has 
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touchdown yesterday that it felt
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about this. 
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Knew. 
Oh, Davis. 

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I mean, that's when my Wi-Fi 
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That's on brand. 
This is so on brand. 

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You know, if you if you guys 
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fans, there's one episode where 
Janine Garofalo is trying to 

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book for Larry Sanders and she 
books some actor or some 

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comedian and, you know, he's 
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And Larry Sanders says what? 
Gallagher's out of fruit. 

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Is that too old a reference? 
I don't know. 

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Like of course, Brit, I've heard
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Things about The Larry Sanders 
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I've never watched it. 
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Calcaterra is on your your, your
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I, I, you know, I'm such a 
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Larry Sanders to The Larry 
Sanders Show. 

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I relate Larry Sanders to the 
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led the National Basketball 
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This was like, this was like 
2015 air or something. 

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But yeah, historical anomalies 
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was looking for. 
Hertz completions 14 eleven 

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15814 the last five games, which
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And they are, they keep pounding
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I don't know what their PREPROE 
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I can pull it up. 
But they've been outrageously 

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run heavy over the last like 
really since the week 5 by every

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week since the Week 5 by there's
been and they've played the Jags

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and they've played the Ravens. 
They've been in all these 

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situations where if they wanted 
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But they just, it's not how 
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Now, well, this might not 
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I know they've played Dallas 
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Giants once, but what's maybe a 
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I don't know if it is from a 
fantasy sense 32 teams in the 

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NFLI think still there's no 
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next yet, but it's it's 32 
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or two and 11:00. 
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tonight's teams, Cincinnati and 
Dallas, who could also shut down

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Chase and Lamb Higgins, you 
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Davis, you made this point a 
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Look out if Cincinnati loses to 
Pittsburgh, which they did. 

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So I know we got The Simpsons, 
meaning that that game is locked

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in on Monday night game, but 
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Perfectly cromulent, people are 
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and 10 or two and 11 Breece Hall
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You know some of these guys that
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bats are just kind of a victim 
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These teams were all dead a 
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they shut their best players 
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Well, The thing is this football
players don't do that. 

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Pat and I talked about this last
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I literally don't even remember 
what show it was, but we we did 

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talk about this like Jacob made 
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That's an NBA thing. 
NFL teams like dude, Tre Trevor 

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Lawrence had a literal his non 
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separated and he was like can't 
wait to play. 

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Can't wait to play for my dead 
Jacksonville Jaguars team and my

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coach. 
Who was. 

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Forced to get out there and and 
light it up for Doug. 

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Yeah, Like these guys now 
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you could say there's very real 
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not play because neither of them
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basically. 
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would be more likely. 
Chase, I think wants to lead the

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right. 
We talked about, we actually did

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talk about this last week where 
he and just like Chase wanted to

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be or Jefferson, Chase wanted to
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and Jefferson had the huge game 
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So now he leads the league in 
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Chase will want to keep playing.
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and I think Lamb, by the way, 
Lamb I think is, is a big 

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candidate to get shot because 
he's banged up. 

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He like legitimately has a 
shoulder injury. 

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And he got paid. 
And, and he got and he got paid,

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but by and large, like neighbors
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Neighbors was supposed to be on 
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He played his highest snaps of 
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the way, which is just that's 
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built, man. 
Football players, you got to be 

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built different to play 
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They they mostly just play. 
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I mean, there's no incentive to 
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coach, you'll you're much more 
likely to get fired. 

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You know, if, if the product on 
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get fired. 
That's the that's always the 

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lesson in the NFL. 
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the bigger picture like 
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every single time. 
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Well, I mean, this is going to 
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not soon, because I mean, 
tanking has been a topic in 

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sports since what, Patrick 
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I mean again another. 
This is the wrong class to tank.

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For well, that that that might 
be true, but still the first 

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pick is better to have than the 
second and and on down and other

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sports have graduated to this 
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Why? 
Because the data supports it and

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football players might be built 
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decide. 
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managers anyway. 
So it's going to be up to the 

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organization. 
This is what we're going to do. 

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It depends on who owns the team,
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Is the coach somebody who's 
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somebody that, you know, can't 
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That might make a difference. 
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I mean running back by committee
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I mean, when you're running back
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this is a little bit more 
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safer different reasons for 
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So we do that because is running
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Committee bad, by the way, like 
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Zach Charbonnay is this is that 
sharper? 

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You just you go workhorse by. 
Committee well, running, running

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back, running back, running back
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that some teams do it because 
they So the This is a huge 

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problem for the Ravens. 
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going to do based on their 
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Justice Hill and Mark Andrews 
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When they bring I guess it used 
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Now it's when they have Patrick 
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field, they're running the ball 
or they're going to do play 

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action and it's going to be a 
deep shot to Bateman. 

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That's like their that's like 
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personnel. 
It it very obviously forecast. 

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That's I think that's why now 
Doug McDermott, another 

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Monumental, can't have it high 
school football mistake. 

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McDermott I don't know who 
you're morphing him with or 

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that's your bed. 
Doug McDermott is another NBA 

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player. 
Sean McDermott with another 

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Monumental can't have it time 
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something I think that he and 
Brady do have well dialed in is 

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Ty Johnson and James Cook and 
Ray Davis are basically 

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interchangeable. 
They hand the ball off to Ty 

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Johnson. 
They'll run the two-minute drill

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with Ray Davis if they have to, 
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They're they, they are very good
out of those, out of those 

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multiple looks in a way that the
Lions. 

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Johnson usage come from dude was
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Only one of them is ever on the 
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They'll have a 6th lineman on 
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Johnson got a little swing pass 
that he took to the house 

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yesterday. 
Davis had a 0 after a week where

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he scored and you might have 
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But but he only played 10 fewer 
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Well, what, you know, if I can 
go into Buffalo mode for a 

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minute, what concerns me more 
than the time out and sort of 

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the end game situation, which 
for the fourth year in a row the

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Bills have lost the game of the 
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Somehow they managed to do that 
is like McDermott after the game

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talking about how how impressive
or important the Rams running 

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game was and we couldn't get 
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I mean, that's in his heart of 
hearts. 

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I think the Rams ran for three 
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They just ran 45 times. 
It's in every coaches heart of 

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hearts and you know what? 
I've reached such an age now 

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where I'm like, you know what, 
sometimes you just need to be 

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able to run the ball for a 9 
minute drive to break the spirit

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of is there anything more 
demoralizing than giving up a 

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third and three run? 
The the team runs on third and 

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three and they convert. 
I mean, that just has to as a 

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defense, you just have to be 
like, oh Jesus Christ, we this 

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still has to keep going. 
Like it's so demoralizing. 

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It's. 
So funny though because like the

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Bills were down so bad. 
Like, the game's over for like 

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95% of teams in the league, and 
the Bills are one of the few 

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teams where you're like, this 
isn't over. 

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Like they become. 
Scoring back and like then 

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you're like watching them play, 
you're like they're going to 

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come back, like this is going to
happen. 

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Their defense let them down. 
I mean, the idea that there was 

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a run game is so silly. 
Like they you can't score points

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like that through the run game. 
They were scoring points in 

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bunches like non. 
I mean, by the way, the Bills 

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defense cost our friend Peter 
Overs at $40,000. 

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I mean, he had he had the main 
battle Royale and underdog 

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locked up yesterday effectively 
at the end of the third quarter 

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of that game. 
And he Kittle caught a pass to 

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put him ahead of Pukunakua and 
it was basically done and 

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dusted. 
And then the bills were just 

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like, you know, you know what, 
let's just sound it for 

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resignifying nothing. 
Let's score this last touchdown.

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I mean, Josh Allen had, he had 
25 fantasy points in that fourth

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quarter alone. 
Well, the defense is the problem

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where Allen is, I mean. 
Allen. 

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Allen is not the problem. 
I mean, Allen is. 

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Allen, Pete. 
'S problem, Pete's problem. 

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I mean, 3 rushing touchdowns. 
Pat's point. 

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They they never, they're always 
in it. 

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They have lost two games by 10 
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How many? 
2 They lost to Baltimore this 

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year, which I want to go back to
them by the way, because I think

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Davis was really saying This is 
why they shouldn't have signed 

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Henry and they should. 
They should not have signed 

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Henry, which feels insane right 
now how productive he's been. 

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All right, O'dowdell and Tony 
Pollard would be better fits for

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what they need. 
They lost to Indianapolis here 

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by 26 points when Jonathan 
Taylor scored five touchdowns 3 

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years ago like that. 
That's it. 

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They they do not have any bad 
losses. 

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The fans in Buffalo make it a a 
point about close games and I'm 

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sure I'm going to face 4 hours 
of that when I get up. 

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Done with you guys when I get to
work today. 

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On the post game yesterday the 
1st 2 calls were like fire 

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McDermott, which you know you 
might tell me that's what they 

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should do. 
But back to you, Davis, on the 

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Ravens. 
They need to, well, basically, I

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think Tony Pollard would have 
would have been a better fit for

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them because it allows them to 
remain multiple. 

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Tony Pollard is a very, very 
good running back, and Derrick 

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Henry is a great rusher, but not
a great running back for the 

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modern game, if that makes 
sense. 

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I mean, and now obviously Henry 
will have 350 rushing yards in a

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home playoff game or whatever. 
I think, I think the Henry sign 

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is fine. 
I think the like the Bills 

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yesterday, the issue for the 
Ravens is defense. 

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Defense. 
They had a good defense. 

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The Ravens would be such a 
problem. 

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They'd be a lot like the Eagles.
I mean, they they can, they can 

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throw it on you. 
They can run it on you. 

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Like there's no good answers 
when you're playing the Ravens. 

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Lamar is way better than Jalen 
Hurts and and obviously that 

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pains me as my Oklahoma helmet 
is behind me, but Lamar is on 

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like a different planet from 
from Hertz. 

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I think Lamar's better than 
Hertz, too. 

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So you're, you're, I mean, 
having Derek Henry is kind of 

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this alternate punch that you've
got. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Lamar. 

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No really, really punishing 
defenses for overly focusing on 

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taking away Lamar and then you 
know, Lamar in the run game and 

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Henry and Lamar help each other 
there so. 

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If the Ravens had a great 
defense, Henry might be Barkley.

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I mean, even from Week 1 when 
they lost in Kansas City, like 

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Henry isn't interesting in this 
game. 

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They're 8:00 and 5:00, like 
they're not likely to have any 

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home playoff games. 
They're in trouble. 

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They'll make the playoffs. 
There's still like 98% to make 

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it. 
So we want to be drafting them 

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in these playoff things, but. 
The Ravens just find the way to 

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loot like they just lose the 
dumbest games. 

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All the time, but. 
It's just insane, like every 

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game they lose, they snatch 
defeat from the jaws of victory.

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But the Ravens are in the worst 
spot on defense that you can be 

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in, which again runs counter to 
Mcdorman's. 

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Point, which is crazy against 
the run. 

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They're great against the run 
and they're terrible against the

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pass. 
Like there's no worse spot to be

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in the to like ask offenses to 
throw on you to. 

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Throw on you. 
The coaches, you know, as we 

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know, are still a little bit too
tilted to the idea that they 

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need to move the ball on the 
ground. 

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And so if they're like, well, I 
basically have to throw here 

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like. 
I know you're. 

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Going to get points put up 
against you, you know, it's, 

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it's rough. 
The Eagles aren't the only team 

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that doesn't that didn't do it 
to. 

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Them even still even still 
there's this hat tip establish 

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the run crowd and here's here's 
the literal head coach the bills

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yesterday talking about well, we
really could have that that was 

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important in this game and oh 
too bad you didn't establish the

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run because you only scored 42 
points it's. 

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Kind of like I would have rather
lost like a man like this. 

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That's right, coming back and 
scoring all these points and 

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then getting scored on again. 
I just hated it so much. 

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I'd rather have have fallen 6 
points short at the very end and

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just run at a bunch and and ran 
out of time like a man. 

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Right. 
I I said for years on the radio 

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here before McDermott that Rex 
Ryan, when he was coaching the 

447
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,640
Bills, he thought passing was 
effeminate. 

448
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,720
Yeah. 
That's what this fundamentally. 

449
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,880
His dad is literally Buddy Ryan.
Is that too old a reference for 

450
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,040
you 2? 
No, I know. 

451
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,800
I know, buddy Ryan. 
Get the Bears hat out. 

452
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,320
The The thing is, is they just 
all wait the your I mean you're 

453
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,000
going to spend all day on radio 
talking about this, but they the

454
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,720
bills ran the quarterback sneak 
on 1st and goal from the 1, 

455
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,800
causing them to take a time out.
Obviously they thought they 

456
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,080
could get it, but like, that is 
the type of thing you cannot do 

457
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,360
that they lose the game right 
there because then they run out 

458
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,320
of the ability to call the 
timeouts, right, right. 

459
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,040
When they turn the ball back 
over and it's like, well, you. 

460
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,960
Do that play was an entire 
possession. 

461
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,080
I mean, it was a possession. 
It was. 

462
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,000
Very. 
No, basically it was basically. 

463
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,200
Basically it was. 
Yeah. 

464
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,760
And it's just like, well, you 
can't. 

465
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,360
Yeah. 
I mean, that's all. 

466
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,320
Dom in the chat makes a great 
point. 

467
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,800
Like, sure, we're going to spend
all the afternoon talking about 

468
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,360
the timeouts. 
The timeouts are in error. 

469
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:57,280
But it's like, it's the same 
thing with the Chiefs last 

470
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,120
night. 
It's like, dude, if the freaking

471
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,560
Chargers, like, we can be mad 
about the way Kansas City 

472
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,880
handles their stuff and doesn't 
go for it on 4th down and 

473
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,160
doesn't run the ball and the 
defensive holding that wasn't 

474
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,560
called and stuff. 
But like, if Vlad Mcconkey plays

475
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,560
in that game, what do the 
Chargers win by? 

476
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,720
-1 negative, they lose that. 
There's something that happens 

477
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,560
before we get away from the 
Bills. 

478
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,760
Do you guys, do you guys know 
that they had nine players on 

479
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,200
the field for the punt? 
What the what the time out meant

480
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,080
was the Rams did not have to get
a first, assuming they recovered

481
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,520
onside kick. 
They did not have to get another

482
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,360
first down, right? 
So the with the Bills like 13 

483
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:40,120
seconds, it's always like this. 
There's always a time out before

484
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:44,840
the gaff where you have like 
extra time to sort of process 

485
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,000
and get it right somehow. 
They have nine players on the 

486
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,080
field and then the punk is in 
the air and they let it drop and

487
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,160
the game's over. 
I mean, the only chance you have

488
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,240
with the ball in the air is to 
catch it and try to run for a 

489
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,480
touchdown, and that doesn't 
happen either. 

490
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,920
So not great. 
Not great. 

491
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,880
Not great. 
What? 

492
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,960
What is the supposed to be a 
defensive guy? 

493
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,760
Well, he was. 
I mean, he calls that, he calls 

494
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,000
that try to move. 
Again, he's tried being a 

495
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,840
defensive guy again, it would. 
It might help the team. 

496
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,280
It's a conundrum here, Pat. 
I mean, they've won constantly. 

497
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,000
Remember that stat from 2 
minutes ago? 

498
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,680
Like they they win. 
Constantly what if what if What 

499
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,680
if he's Mark Jackson and and 
they need their Steve Kerr? 

500
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,920
What if he's the guy who? 
Sets. 

501
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,120
Sets. 
He's the guy who sets the table.

502
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:31,680
He's the guy who teaches him how
to win. 

503
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,680
He's the guy who teaches him how
to be men. 

504
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,000
But you need the genius 
tactician you need. 

505
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,560
You need the guy to take him to 
the next level level. 

506
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,160
That's a good comp. 
You don't have there's not a the

507
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,000
owner here is not wired like 
that. 

508
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,600
I mean he the the Bills went 
from nowhere to this and 

509
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,360
McDermott is not going away. 
This is it's also all pattern 

510
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:56,760
matching. 
Like the Bills could very easily

511
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,040
win the Super Bowl this year. 
If they don't lose the 13 

512
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,240
seconds game, they probably win 
the Super Bowl that year. 

513
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,320
So it's just like variance just 
happening in real life. 

514
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,840
It's hard for our brains to make
sense of it. 

515
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,200
Although I do continually tend 
to think that in a way that by 

516
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,320
the way, Andy Reid used to be 
this guy. 

517
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,920
Remember when Andy Reid was 
like, oh, he's the funny clock 

518
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,320
management guy. 
His team's always mess up the 

519
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,000
end of games. 
He he never does timeouts, 

520
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,800
right? 
Like, you can learn and you can,

521
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,320
although Andy's been really bad 
at that stuff this year. 

522
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,120
So and Mcdermott's been good and
Mcdermott's been good. 

523
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,000
This was not a fourth down. 
This was a time out sort of 

524
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,360
panic mode. 
He runs down the sideline. 

525
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,440
You can run the sneak, you can 
run it again. 

526
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,280
You still will score on the 
second one. 

527
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,480
Probably they don't. 
Kansas City now about almost 80%

528
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,840
to get the one. 
Let's talk about these playoff 

529
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,400
drafts as we get closer to the 
playoffs and, you know, 

530
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,360
movement. 
Yesterday, there wasn't a ton. 

531
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,360
There was a little bit in the 
NFC West that we might get to 

532
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:56,680
with Seattle's win, but. 
The NFC West, No one wants to 

533
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,720
win it. 
The the Rams are back in the 

534
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,840
conversation after yesterday 
they go to San Francisco on 

535
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,920
Thursday night who they never 
beat, but they did just beat 

536
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,760
earlier this year on kind of a 
fluke anyway Allen is the is 

537
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,880
Allen the one O 1 for sure now 
in I don't know I've. 

538
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,160
Been I've been arguing about 
this with Sacrilegious for the 

539
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,160
last 12 hours and I don't think 
we have got to a consensus on. 

540
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,840
So you think he is the one O 1 
or not the one O 1? 

541
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,720
So I'll tell you, I'll tell you 
why I think he's the one O 1 and

542
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,680
why I think Sachs input. 
I basically disagree with Sachs 

543
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,520
inputs to the modeling, which is
he now that the Chiefs are 

544
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,080
effectively locked up to the one
seed. 

545
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,560
He has changed his narrative on 
the quote UN quote big 5 

546
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,800
quarterbacks where it was Lamar 
Allen, Mahomes, Goth Hurts. 

547
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,800
He is now assigning a larger 
percentage of the Super Bowl 

548
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:58,280
profitability probability to 
Russell Wilson, Jordan Love, and

549
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,640
Sam Darnold, effectively saying 
no big deal. 

550
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,800
If you don't get one of the five
guys, you, you still have a, a 

551
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,600
A+ EV chance of building a 
Vikings team or a Steelers team 

552
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,080
or a Packers team or whatever. 
And my assertation I, I just 

553
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,120
disagree. 
I, I really, I really do just 

554
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:21,720
disagree. 
The, the Steelers, it's, I'm not

555
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,720
gonna get tricked by them. 
I'm not gonna get tricked by 

556
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,680
them winning 13 games in the 
regular season. 

557
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,920
They're gonna, they're gonna go 
on the road to some team that 

558
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,760
can score points and get blown 
out. 

559
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,200
They, they, they won a game 
yesterday where no player saw 

560
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,560
more than 4 targets and their 
leading receiver. 

561
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,120
I was, I believe, Van Jefferson.
I mean, I'm sorry. 

562
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,040
I just don't buy it. 
I just do not buy it. 

563
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,960
I think that it might be the 
difference because in these 

564
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,480
playoff basketball contests, 
we're really focused on who will

565
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000
get to the conference 
championship game and. 

566
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,600
They have very high probability 
of that relative to what the 

567
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,360
field is doing. 
Now Pittsburgh is now, yeah, 

568
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,680
they have a really strong chance
of making it to the the 

569
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,920
conference championship game. 
If you look at like player 

570
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,080
strength and you know what the 
potential brackets going to be 

571
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,840
like, they're they're pretty 
well set up now. 

572
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,560
The no issue, I think is that 
like, if you look at who's 

573
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:22,440
actually favored to win the NFC 
and AFC Championship games, then

574
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,800
I think you go back to the Big 5
mentality because like, who's 

575
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,440
actually likely to get not just 
to the championship game, but to

576
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,120
win it in advance to the Super 
Bowl? 

577
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,760
I just pull up like the 
DraftKings odds. 

578
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,040
The Ravens are plus 475. 
The Steelers are +800 to win the

579
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,040
AFC. 
So Sack is making the point that

580
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,560
now Baltimore and Buffalo are 
set up to play each other. 

581
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,000
So what that means is sure, I 
will lose more teams than the 

582
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600
field in the divisional round 
because I'll have a lot of Bills

583
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,640
and I'll have a lot of Ravens. 
I will just get a huge portion 

584
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,760
of my teams are going to die in 
that round. 

585
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,960
I don't really care. 
Hang on though, is he right? 

586
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,160
Like what are the likeliest 
seeds right now? 

587
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,480
The Bills are very likely to be 
the two, right? 

588
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,840
Not Pittsburgh. 
Pittsburgh at Philadelphia, 

589
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,920
Kansas City, like Pittsburgh, 
has it. 

590
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680
Well, he's. 
Making a comparison between the 

591
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,080
the Ravens and the Steelers, not
the not the Bills and the 

592
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,880
Steelers. 
I know, but how does Baltimore 

593
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:25,160
get to Buffalo? 
Only if six wins in the first 

594
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,520
round against three. 
If Bills are two and Ravens are 

595
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,800
5, which is probably most 
likely, the Ravens are right on 

596
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,320
top of Chargers in Denver and 
they're better than those teams.

597
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,760
So Chargers in Denver are you're
six and seven. 

598
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,480
Buffalo is the 2 plays one of 
those teams, the three is the 

599
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,840
Steelers that plays the other, 
and Baltimore gets Houston. 

600
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,440
Entirely. 
What if the Chargers fall 

601
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,120
entirely and the Steelers win 
the division? 

602
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,800
Isn't that what's going to 
happen? 

603
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,000
Well, I'm giving the Steelers 
the division, the Charger. 

604
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,320
I mean, somebody could fall out 
there, but it's still still the 

605
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,440
same point. 
Miami or Indianapolis in place 

606
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,320
of the Chargers. 
If Pittsburgh is the three they 

607
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,080
win at home, they're going to 
Buffalo as the two the next 

608
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,440
week. 
Baltimore goes to Kansas City if

609
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,920
it wins as the five. 
I don't think right now, unless 

610
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760
the Ravens lose, they play the 
Giants next unless they lose a 

611
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,120
couple more or one more. 
Even then, maybe they're the six

612
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,400
of the seven, but I don't see 
how it's more likely that they 

613
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,240
play the Bills than the Chiefs 
in Round 2. 

614
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,800
Yeah, my, my thinking is more 
about the, so taking Allen one O

615
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,160
1 is going to get you less 
Barkley one O 1 because 

616
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,320
Barkley's kind of the consensus 
one O 1. 

617
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,600
So you're fading Barkley a 
little bit, which is pretty 

618
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,040
scary because you if you go 
Barkley, there's still chances 

619
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,800
you can get like where's Mahomes
going today? 

620
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,480
It was pretty easy before to to 
pair Mahomes with Barkley. 

621
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,240
So you're like, I mean, that's 
six Super Bowl. 

622
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,120
Now you got to play around the 
buys with with the Chiefs, but 

623
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,720
probably not with the Eagles. 
Well, you know the other funny 

624
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,320
thing about Kansas City teams, 
Pat, they're not going to score 

625
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,480
very many fantasy points in the 
games they win. 

626
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,720
So that's the other. 
They're going to be a lot of 

627
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,400
Chiefs team. 
The Chiefs might be in the Super

628
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,880
Bowl, but they're it's going to 
be harder to advance them there 

629
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,600
because they stink. 
Which is, yeah, that's how it 

630
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,520
was last year. 
Like it was, it was difficult to

631
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,520
actually get the Chiefs of the 
Super Bowl, even though they 

632
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,120
did. 
They have the buy, they didn't 

633
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,200
have the buy, right? 
No, they were the last year. 

634
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,760
Last year it was Kelsey was the 
huge edge because you got four 

635
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000
games, you got four games of 
Kelsey and he smashed every 

636
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,800
game. 
Look, Allen, as the 101 again 

637
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,400
right now, by the odds, that is 
four games in your Super Bowl 

638
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,120
plan. 
I mean, they're pretty clearly 

639
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,520
the best team in the conference.
And then at the 2-3 turn, it's 

640
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,560
what one of his cook or whatever
you want to do receive Cooper 

641
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,800
and then a Lion. 
The thing that's nice about the 

642
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,240
Bills, though, is you can take 
their pass catchers the whole 

643
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,000
way through. 
I mean, you could take Keon 

644
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,120
Coleman and Dalton Kincaid and 
Matt Collins with your final 

645
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,280
three picks and they'll be on 
the field. 

646
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,480
And it's pretty easy to get Tim 
Patrick or you know, one of the 

647
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,800
one of the lions at. 2-3 even 
expensive now people are people 

648
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,680
are kind of woke to to Tim 
Patrick. 

649
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,280
Well, then we we don't do that, 
then we know. 

650
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,760
Brock Wright. 
Brock Wright is this year's 

651
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,080
Juwan Jennings, people are 
saying. 

652
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,440
It just to not shut the door on 
the Kansas City stuff. 

653
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,560
It's hilarious, right? 
I mean, what was the script 

654
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,100
going to be last night? 
Adam Crotwurst, my deep end Co 

655
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,960
host, was like, this is going to
be a walk off safety one way or 

656
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,960
another. 
That's all that's left. 

657
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,440
I mean, how many scenarios are 
left? 

658
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,720
And I'm I'm envisioning not at 
the time, I can't say I called 

659
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,320
this, but after the game's over,
it's sort of those conversations

660
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,920
on the chief sideline where they
know they've got it is like the 

661
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,520
kicker going, why don't I just 
bank it? 

662
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,840
You know, isn't that more 
interesting? 

663
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,480
Like, I could just bank it. 
That's that's new. 

664
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,480
What's left for Kansas City? 
It's incredible. 

665
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,120
This what? 
What an incredible season. 

666
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,960
Hilarious. 
Incredible. 

667
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,560
Not the word incredible. 
Not the word I would use 

668
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,960
personally. 
It's a dreary, say, a dreary 

669
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,680
season. 
Dreary Rd. 

670
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,280
One of those. 
One Steve Dreary 12 in one 

671
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,719
seasons, I know. 
I'm telling you guys dude, it's 

672
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,040
not who has fun. 
Watch the team is not having fun

673
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,719
playing. 
They're not fun to watch. 

674
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,360
You spend the whole game just 
wishing that Xavier Worthy would

675
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,639
catch a long pass. 
He never does. 

676
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,840
You, you watch Mahomes get yell 
at his lineman. 

677
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,239
You know no one, no one's having
any fun. 

678
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,639
They're they're mad. 
They, they, they, they don't get

679
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,520
one call yesterday. 
The, the, the fans at Arrowhead 

680
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,159
don't get one call. 
DeAndre Hopkins getting held on 

681
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,960
the deep ball and and they start
doing the the refs you suck 

682
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,560
chant these are these are 
ungrateful, unhappy people the. 

683
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Vibes are backed. 
Like they're, they're the, the, 

684
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:59,840
the Chiefs are very similar to 
that last Steelers team, the 

685
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,800
last Roethlisberger Steelers, 
they, they won all those games. 

686
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,560
No one believed in them. 
Everyone thought they were 

687
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,360
frauds. 
Now, obviously the the 

688
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:14,320
difference is Mahomes obviously 
is better than any of these 

689
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,480
other guys and at any point 
Kelsey gets some good steroids. 

690
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,360
The this left tackle, they sign 
Humphreys. 

691
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Maybe he learns the system. 
I mean, he was pretty bad last 

692
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,120
night. 
He got hurt again. 

693
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:29,200
Right. 
Last night, did he leave the 

694
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,880
game? 
I I I I I I fell asleep at half 

695
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,640
time. 
There's you left. 

696
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,280
The game buddy, there's not 
enough money on earth that could

697
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,800
have got me to the end of a 19 
to 17 chargers game. 

698
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,160
I just I can't. 
I love, I love the chiefs. 

699
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,320
I love Mahomes. 
I I I can't, I can't do it, man.

700
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,920
I can't. 
I cannot stay up for these 

701
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,080
games. 
I get up at 5 AMI. 

702
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,080
Can't. 
We'll do it for you. 

703
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,840
We'll we'll agonize. 
We'll watch and agonize for you.

704
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,920
And, and when I woke up and 
checked the box score and I saw 

705
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,080
it was 1970, and I was like, 
sure it was. 

706
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,560
Why? 
Why wouldn't it be? 

707
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Of course it would. 
Oh, they banked. 

708
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,840
They banked in a field goal off 
the up, of course. 

709
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,080
Yeah, of course they banked it 
in off the upright. 

710
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,240
It wasn't as much a doink as it 
was a rim shot from the Chiefs 

711
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,120
at this point at Cleveland this 
week. 

712
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,960
Seattle, Arizona, back to the 
playoff drafts. 

713
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,600
So Seattle makes a big move in 
terms of the odds with that win.

714
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,480
They've swept the Cardinals. 
They were game up. 

715
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,400
The Rams win. 
The Niners are not dead. 

716
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,560
The Cardinals by the by the 
percentages, the probabilities, 

717
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,560
the Cardinals and Niners are 
both close to dead. 

718
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,360
But so we're not drafting them, 
I would think at this stage. 

719
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,520
But what is Seattle? 
JSN Pat, come on. 

720
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,960
I mean, going back to last year,
this guy's having a breakout 

721
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,000
season. 
Yes, it's awesome. 

722
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,200
I wasn't as in this year, I got 
talked into him. 

723
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Sacrilegious was pretty big on 
him. 

724
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,200
Ben Gretch is pretty big on him.
Kind of got me back on the I was

725
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,560
pretty disappointed in his 
rookie year, but it's nice to 

726
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,120
see, yeah, him coming on. 
He's the wide receiver, 5 in 

727
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,280
points per game. 
Wow, wow, that's just that 

728
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,520
actually bums me out. 
That's that's more of a stat 

729
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,200
about wide receiver scoring than
it is about JSN to be. 

730
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,360
Frank and and Lockett Davis, I 
was watching you yesterday 

731
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,600
morning and you're like, you got
a question about Locket? 

732
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,800
Like yeah, he's old. 0 
yesterday. 

733
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,640
He's not even a full time player
anymore. 

734
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,040
They're they're, they're doing 
more 12 personnel. 

735
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,480
They're doing AJ Barner instead 
of Tyler. 

736
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,280
Like, look man, time waits for 
no man. 

737
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,600
You know, there's just really 
nothing you can do when when 

738
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,280
Awesomeandias comes for you and 
they have came for Tyler 

739
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,880
Lockett. 
Who's live in the NFC? 

740
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,280
Detroit. 
Philadelphia. 

741
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Minnesota wins again. 
There's obviously fantasy 

742
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,680
friendly options there. 
Is there anybody else? 

743
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,560
The Bucks? 
Who else do we care about? 

744
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,560
The the Bucks, if you are 
playing playoff best ball, the 

745
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,160
team that you want to advance is
the Bucks because they are 

746
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,080
awesome for fantasy. 
They have a bunch of guys who 

747
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,720
get points. 
Baker, Bucky, Rashad White, Mike

748
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:04,280
Evans, Kate Auten, These guys, 
these guys get fantasy points 

749
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,400
and. 
They have a bad defense, too, so

750
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,040
you're kind of excited about the
games they play in. 

751
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,480
The other thing about the I 
mean, who's more likely to win a

752
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,480
game? 
Exactly not the. 

753
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,720
Falcons, Falcons, yeah, like, 
give me a break. 

754
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,920
So I just think from a playoff 
perspective, like the Bucks are 

755
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,760
a better team. 
They're a more fun team. 

756
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,880
Let's get them in. 
I think it's nice to see the 

757
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Cardinals going. 
I'm sick of the Cardinals. 

758
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,560
You know it's. 
I am, I'm also, I am also sick 

759
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,440
of the the Cardinals. 
Same. 

760
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,800
Very, very sick. 
Yeah, they they spike for these 

761
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,240
big games where you're like, oh,
it's all working. 

762
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,000
Like Kyler looks great. 
But then they so often just like

763
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,120
no show. 
And they have this like specific

764
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,040
formula where they, you know, 
they got to get the run game 

765
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,320
going. 
And then they do stuff off that 

766
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,080
like I like the the Seahawks are
they're just kind of winging 

767
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,400
that. 
It feels like a little more, you

768
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,160
know, like stuff just kind of 
happening. 

769
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,000
And then the Rams, I mean, that 
was fun. 

770
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,640
I would like more of that in my 
life. 

771
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,840
Kyler Murray at this point, what
is he like here? 

772
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,560
Here is a season where San 
Francisco goes away and the Rams

773
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,840
are up and down. 
It's like right there. 

774
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,440
They played Seattle twice in the
last two or three or four weeks.

775
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,480
They lost both games for both by
double digits. 

776
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:23,440
Like this was Murray's year to 
show just maybe less in fantasy,

777
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,320
but in sort of real football. 
Like what he is, he's got the 

778
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,080
contract. 
He had this sort of second 

779
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,680
opportunity soon, the second act
for him without Kingsbury, and 

780
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,800
it's just too short. 
It's just OK. 

781
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,360
He's too short. 
Honestly think that's a big part

782
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,600
of it. 
He's too short. 

783
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080
He's he's still a very good 
scrambler. 

784
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,560
He's still a very accurate 
passer. 

785
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,720
But you have to, when your 
quarterback is 59, you've got to

786
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:48,000
design your offense in such a 
way. 

787
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,920
And it seems like maybe they 
don't want him running as much 

788
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,120
as he did the year he was great,
both for the year they won 11 

789
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,200
games and the year he was 
awesome for fantasy. 

790
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,080
I would guess because he's a 
very small man and they don't 

791
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,000
want him getting tackled 100 
times a year. 

792
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:08,360
The offensive line's also pretty
bad, and they also seem a bit 

793
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,720
confused as to how to use Marvin
Harrison Junior. 

794
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,000
Like Marvin Harrison Junior and 
Kyler are a bad stylistic fit. 

795
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,920
Marvin Harrison Junior's kind of
like a classic. 

796
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,600
Who's Who's a good guy Needs 
Burrow. 

797
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Needs Burrow. 
Not even he might need, he needs

798
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,520
like he needs a Stafford. 
He'd be electric with Stafford. 

799
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,240
Lots of let him use his big 
strong hands, you know, just 

800
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:34,680
kind of kind of let him run 
these boundary routes where the 

801
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,840
quarterback has to fit it in a a
tight window and stuff like 

802
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,000
that. 
McBride is the way better fit 

803
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,400
for. 
It's why McBride gets 14 targets

804
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,720
a week, because he basically 
just runs these very simple 

805
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,960
crossing routes. 
Shallow post digs. 

806
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,520
He runs the stuff that like 
Kyler can also like run with 

807
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,240
him. 
That's exactly what I was 

808
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,600
saying. 
Like, you roll to the One 

809
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Direction and McBride can 
literally come come. 

810
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,360
With yeah, so you're just and 
you're hitting that. 

811
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,080
That's so much easier. 
It's like a medium depth route 

812
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,400
the guy's running exactly which 
you like, a tight end a little 

813
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,440
bit more of an over the middle 
target sometimes. 

814
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,520
So it wouldn't, it's not like, 
but I think, I think that's part

815
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,040
of it. 
There are some fun leverage 

816
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,880
plays in the on the NFC side 
when it comes to the playoff 

817
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,160
best ball, though, because 
again, I think I mentioned this 

818
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,400
last week, but six at 3/5 at 4. 
The road teams could be favored 

819
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,600
in both of those games with 
Green Bay maybe going to 

820
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,440
Seattle. 
They play this Sunday night, by 

821
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,920
the way, in Seattle. 
And then you could have 

822
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,000
Minnesota going to Seattle or 
Tampa or something like that. 

823
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,920
I mean, you could have the road 
teams being favored there. 

824
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,800
I think you would for whoever 
goes to Tampa would be favorite,

825
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,000
I think. 
Then there's Washington, which 

826
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,600
could slip into one of those 
spots, too. 

827
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,760
Washington's playoff odds went 
up yesterday. 

828
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,960
They didn't even play. 
I'm not even sure why, but like 

829
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,640
they're shorter to make the 
playoffs. 

830
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,200
I would assume it has to do with
the Atlanta loss. 

831
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,920
Maybe I don't. 
Know and they still play in Week

832
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,480
17, but Washington at BET Online
went from -325 to make the 

833
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,920
playoffs Sunday morning to -550 
today. 

834
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,000
It's a pretty big jump. 
So Washington looks look at New 

835
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,320
York Times too. 
They look pretty safe if you 

836
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,680
want to dabble in them. 
It's probably the Falcons loss I

837
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,800
would guess because it's it's a 
it's a wild card fight. 

838
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,200
It is Washington's decent. 
Enough. 

839
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,360
That's right. 
If you're looking for bye week, 

840
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,680
you know, if you're if you're 
drafting the homes and then you 

841
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,920
need, well, one, you need 
someone to cover your buy in his

842
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,840
playoff basketball tournament, 
but two, you need a quarterback 

843
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,680
who actually scores points. 
You just have Patrick Holmes. 

844
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,720
So Jaden Daniels is pretty. 
We've got nothing from Davis 

845
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:52,000
there. 
I just, I'm just laughing to to 

846
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,360
fill the void. 
I mean, really. 

847
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,680
Sorry, I just got, I just got a 
a text about the Bitcoin price 

848
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,440
that I was reading well. 
Read about that in Discord. 

849
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,720
When I'm, when I'm sitting here 
saying Patrick Holmes doesn't 

850
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:07,920
score any points and then you're
just staring off into space, I. 

851
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,240
Mean he also also what? 
Am I watching the games? 

852
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,760
What am I watching the games 
anymore? 

853
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Dude, I just, I'm not staying up
until 11:00 PM local time to 

854
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,520
watch my team bank a fucking 
field goal off the upright. 

855
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,080
I just they, they wouldn't do it
for me and I'm not doing it for 

856
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:31,400
them. 
Washington, Atlanta week 17 to 

857
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,680
pivot back to regular season. 
Here we go. 

858
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,440
Best ball mania wrapping up 
tonight with Cincinnati, Dallas 

859
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,880
week 17. 
One of them is New Orleans 

860
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,200
Raiders. 
That's probably Jake Hayner, 

861
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,520
Desmond Ritter at this point, 
Carr. 

862
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,080
Out for the season. 
Carr probably done. 

863
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,240
O'Connell definitely done. 
I don't know about Minshew. 

864
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,600
Minshew's out for the year. 
Minshew had to have a surgery I 

865
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,600
believe on his. 
Collarbone. 

866
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120
OK. 
Yeah, just sort of it's. 

867
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Whatever time. 
Pat, like BBM, one game to go. 

868
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,880
We, I think you said earlier you
might have stepped back 

869
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,880
yesterday a little bit. 
I did with Alan's game and a 

870
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:14,000
couple other things. 
What just instinctively what 

871
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,360
feels like has to go right. 
For me. 

872
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,120
Yeah. 
Can we redo it? 

873
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,280
The Patriots not to have a week 
14 by the Patriots actually to 

874
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,920
have no buys. 
No, I, I, yeah, I need, I need 

875
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,560
some Patriots scoring for sure. 
What do I need? 

876
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,240
I don't know. 
The Bengals can't shut everyone 

877
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:43,720
down because like, Chase Brown 
and and and Chase and stuff and 

878
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:46,000
those guys are. 
Actually Jamar Chase and T 

879
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,520
Higgins being shut down would be
fine. 

880
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Like just build the whole plane 
out of Chase Brown. 

881
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,920
Like let's see what happens if 
we give a guy 40 touches in a 

882
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,920
game. 
Like what just. 

883
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,640
Yeah, that would be nice. 
Honestly, my path to winning is 

884
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,600
probably the Ravens passing 
offense If Lamar goes nuts the 

885
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,560
next few weeks. 
I've got some teams that I don't

886
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,360
have that many teams, but the 
ones I have are probably tilted 

887
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,200
towards Lamar. 
The Lamar Andrews stuff is like 

888
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,600
kind of squeaked by and you 
know, it didn't help me a ton, 

889
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,080
but it was like OK enough to 
kind of get through. 

890
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:23,240
So and Andrews mini resurgence 
scored some touchdowns and and 

891
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:24,840
I'll and I'll be feeling pretty 
good. 

892
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,480
So not Deonte Johnson. 
Not Deonte Johnson. 

893
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,160
I didn't have a ton of Deonte, 
but yeah, he's, he's an 

894
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,400
afterthought. 
I've got, I've got it through 

895
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,120
Zay, I've got it through 
Andrews, not really through 

896
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,880
Henry, but you know, Bateman 
all. 

897
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,920
That right, Deonte Johnson and 
Carolina Adam Thielen, the 

898
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Panthers a little bit. 
They have Dallas coming up. 

899
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,720
That's live. 
Adam Thielen. 

900
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,760
Adam Thielen is going to be this
year's Zay Jones, the guy who 

901
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,320
completely broke fantasy scoring
as a as a mid, Yeah. 

902
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,360
At least he's somebody that we'd
heard of all through the summer 

903
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,400
when we were drafting these 
teams and not third string 

904
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,240
quarterbacks or backups to 
backups. 

905
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,760
Keyshawn Vaughn is possibly in 
line to step in in San 

906
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,360
Francisco. 
No dude, I I'm pretty confident 

907
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,760
that it's going to be a 
banacanda. 

908
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,520
Well, they were both there for a
few days and Vaughn played 

909
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,240
yesterday and the Band of Canada
didn't. 

910
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,120
I want you to be right because 
at least he was somebody on the 

911
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,840
ring. 
Here, but I was on with Sigmund 

912
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:37,360
Bloom on the couch last week and
he was well. 

913
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,080
I mean, Durendo might also not 
be injured. 

914
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,120
Durendo might be. 
He might come back and be fine 

915
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,440
but I I would bet I would 
Keyshawn Vaughn is like the most

916
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,760
0 ass running back like he just 
is not good at all. 

917
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,960
A banacanda has got some juice. 
I mean, Patrick. 

918
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,600
Taylor. 
Also Patrick Taylor also has has

919
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,240
a little juice. 
My path to winning BBMI just is 

920
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,560
not happening. 
I think any team I advance will 

921
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,720
be so heavily duped by other 
shitty slappy drafters. 

922
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,680
Like I think like whatever team 
I advance is gonna be like oh 

923
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,840
dude Congrats you advanced your 
Chase Brown team. 

924
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,400
Every other shitty slappy guy 
who faded Saquon Barkley and 

925
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Derrick Henry also has Chase. 
Like I don't have any 

926
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,240
differential plays if that makes
sense. 

927
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,400
Like probably if I went and 
looked, probably all my teams 

928
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:33,920
advancing have Rico Dowdell, 
Chase Brown and Brock Bowers on 

929
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,680
them effectively. 
Yeah, I have some 55 fives that 

930
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,760
are kind of interesting where 
I've got like like Rashad White 

931
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,000
and some like weird dudes that I
didn't normally take. 

932
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,640
If if Chase Brown like legit 
crushes tonight, I think I I can

933
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,640
advance as many as four out of 
seven big dogs, but probably 

934
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,960
will advance at least 2. 
So that that's like that's my 

935
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,840
way out of the tunnel because I,
I, I purposely kind of hedged in

936
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,760
those like I took chase over 
Jefferson on two of those. 

937
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,280
Turns out kind of a good idea. 
Kind of a good idea to have so 

938
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,240
much from our chase. 
Big dog pain too soon. 

939
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:21,080
I'm in one yesterday, pets in it
and there are three of us for 

940
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,960
two spots and I looked at like 
1:00 in the morning at 58 

941
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,360
points. 
No, Daniels like just the bye 

942
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,640
weeks and then Pitts, right? 
Or just that's whatever that is 

943
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,400
at this. 
Point I have one that I'm 

944
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,680
thinking we'll get through 
without a quarterback, but I 

945
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,800
need a quiet game for my Kasuke 
or that's going to but that's a 

946
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,080
Lamar team. 
That's a Lamar. 

947
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,320
I wonder how much the the brown 
stuff will will carry teams 

948
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,880
through because it's it is 
interesting. 

949
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,200
Like if you stacked it, the 
slappies right. 

950
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,960
We we stacked it like I have the
Shawn Watson teams advancing 

951
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,800
because they have Judy. 
When was Judy traded? 

952
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,080
Early, right. 
Really early. 

953
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Before the NFL Draft, I think 
even. 

954
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,720
OK, Yeah, that could that could 
fall right then. 

955
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,280
Yeah, it was all my stuff. 
Was he was on the Browns? 

956
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,680
Yeah. 
March Knife. 

957
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,520
Yeah. 
OK. 

958
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,320
Is he good? 
Yeah, I think he is, yeah. 

959
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,440
No Dave split decision on the on
if Jerry Judy's. 

960
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,040
Good. 
I don't know. 

961
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,720
It's like here's like the 
hierarchy of NFL wide receivers 

962
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:34,000
is like, OK, clearly JA Juan 
Jennings is the best. 

963
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,360
And then and then it's like 
Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson

964
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,960
like Judy can Judy can have a 
Brandon Cook style career where 

965
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,880
like, oh, he's got some spike 
weeks. 

966
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Oh, he scored. 
He scored. 

967
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,160
Not Robert Woods, Rob. 
Robert Woods. 

968
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,360
Actually very good comp for what
Judy could be in a competent 

969
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,800
offense. 
Yeah, but I mean, Robert Woods 

970
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,800
was pretty awesome for a while. 
You know, he was like 15 PPR 

971
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,840
points per game for like 3 or 4 
years until Stafford came along 

972
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,960
and and it was just like caught.
But for a minute there was like,

973
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,640
it was, it was evil. 
The crack rock moments in the 

974
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,920
main event, right and. 
Oprah Cooper Cup. 

975
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,320
I did two in the bare knuckle 
and that probably cost me bad. 

976
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,280
Of course it did. 
I mean, I did the same thing 

977
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,880
because I watch you guys. 
Well, I mean, I believe that 

978
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:25,960
we're all voted. 
We won a cup. 

979
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,000
Is is Jameis gonna start next 
year for the Browns? 

980
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,240
I. 
Think so, man. 

981
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,760
I mean. 
Well, what's his contract 

982
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,400
situation? 
I think he's a free agent. 

983
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,680
I do too. 
I'm not sure, but I think that's

984
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,760
right. 
Well, they're not going to want 

985
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,880
to pay him. 
Well, except NFL teams never 

986
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,720
want Jameis, I suppose. 
I suppose. 

987
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,880
Yeah. 
No one that I was going to say, 

988
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,320
oh, no one's got, someone's got.
No, Sam Darnold's going to get a

989
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,520
giant check. 
Yeah. 

990
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,280
The the Raiders I get. 
Well, of course Aaron Rodgers 

991
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,480
will be starting for the 
Raiders, so I guess that takes 

992
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,160
care of itself. 
Could we get again? 

993
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:04,600
You have, you have for The Jets,
eight teams at 3:00 and 10:00 or

994
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,520
2:00 and 11:00. 
There's a lot to hash out. 

995
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,560
First overall pick. 
If New England gets it, they're 

996
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,440
not drafting a quarterback. 
I don't know what the guy is. 

997
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,600
I'm saying that it depends on 
sort of what the prospect looks 

998
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,080
like versus the free agent, who 
the free agent is. 

999
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,720
I think we talked about Winston 
last week as somebody that teams

1000
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:23,680
would hate because the turnovers
are just like just. 

1001
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,360
Yeah, that's it's always what 
happens. 

1002
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,120
We love him in fantasy and no 
coach wants to start him. 

1003
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Right. 
I think the problem with that 

1004
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,240
you have with Jameis is that in 
order to win with him, you have 

1005
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:38,040
to like play for shootouts and 
play for variants. 

1006
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:38,640
Yeah, Yeah. 
And. 

1007
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,280
Coaches hate that shit too. 
They hate that, but like, So 

1008
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,680
what ends up happening is you 
end up doing like New Orleans 

1009
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,880
Jameis, which just sucks. 
Which is like, it's misery. 

1010
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,280
It's bad for him, it's bad for 
no one likes it. 

1011
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,680
It's so bad because you're 
saying like, I have this 

1012
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:56,480
volatile quarterback who I can't
trust, like down to down. 

1013
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:01,000
So I'm going to like limit his 
sample as much as possible and 

1014
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,720
just pray he doesn't like do a 
back breaking mistake which he 

1015
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:06,320
does more than which he. 
Will do before. 

1016
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,680
That's the thing you got to give
him. 

1017
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,520
You got to give him like 70. 
You got to give him like 60 drop

1018
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,000
backs a game to minimize the 
impact of of the back breaking 

1019
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,120
mistake. 
He can't help himself, dude. 

1020
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,560
Yeah, those are coming. 
So you have to, but he also 

1021
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,720
makes awesome plays. 
So like you have to like 

1022
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,280
increase, just give him a ton of
plays to work with, take the 

1023
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,200
good with the bat and you'll 
score points. 

1024
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,840
But that's not how they operate.
If I'm a coach comfortable in my

1025
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,800
position, maybe I've, you know, 
been around long enough and I 

1026
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,000
need a quarterback. 
I want to take a chance on him 

1027
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:41,040
the the the touchdown to Judy 
yesterday to make it it. 

1028
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,680
Was such a good play. 
That is incredible. 

1029
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,320
Like who is who is rolling left 
getting to the line of 

1030
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,600
scrimmage? 
When does he even see Judy on 

1031
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,760
that play? 
And you've got three defenders 

1032
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,200
in the area and he just like 
against across his body 30 yards

1033
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,880
downfield touchdown like made it
look easy. 

1034
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,280
I, I think you, you want to sort
of, if you can, if you can 

1035
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,320
afford it as a coach or an 
organization, you want to bet on

1036
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,480
talent. 
And as hard as it is, and as 

1037
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,120
important as it is to get that 
right he is, he's still 

1038
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,000
tempting. 
I I think that the most fun 

1039
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,440
outcome is that he goes to the 
Giants and Brian Day Ball 

1040
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,360
probably paired with like a mid 
or what are they going to do in 

1041
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,200
the draft like? 
They're taking Cam Ward. 

1042
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,280
Cam Ward. 
OK, so you get James and Cam 

1043
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,600
Ward. 
Dabel's got to be gone right 

1044
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,000
though? 
No, I think. 

1045
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,640
I think Dabel gets a pass. 
You know, I think Dabel and I 

1046
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,320
think Shane might go, but Dabel 
probably stays. 

1047
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,320
Yeah. 
I think they're together. 

1048
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,880
They both went from Buffalo 
together so I would think they 

1049
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,240
would either be both or none. 
And how together are they 

1050
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,680
really? 
I don't know. 

1051
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,040
If they, how, if they ball like,
are they ball, Are you together?

1052
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,040
He might say. 
We are right now. 

1053
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,960
Russell Wilson will lead a 
contract. 

1054
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,400
Well, Russell Wilson will get a 
contract for the Steelers. 

1055
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,480
Yeah, I'll just stay with the 
Steelers. 

1056
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,280
Yeah. 
What does Tennessee? 

1057
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,120
Do fields is probably going 
somewhere else fields. 

1058
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,320
Tennessee. 
Tennessee could be a sneaky 

1059
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,920
Darnold team. 
They could be basically they 

1060
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,240
say, oh, we're the same thing as
the we say the same thing. 

1061
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:14,360
We're we're the we're the 
Vikings. 

1062
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,680
We have a good defense. 
We have a super low volume 

1063
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,480
offense. 
We have our great wide receiver,

1064
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:25,120
Calvin Ridley. 
You know, we have Nick 

1065
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,920
Westbrook, Akane, So you have 
your Jordan Addison. 

1066
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,440
Yeah. 
Darnold if you won't even 

1067
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,960
notice. 
Yeah. 

1068
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,000
So notice the change. 
I, I actually, I find where 

1069
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,920
Darnold goes next year to be 1 
of like the, the it's, it's so 

1070
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,920
fascinating. 
I, I also, I really do wonder. 

1071
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,160
There's definitely a chance. 
Everyone says no chance and, and

1072
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,960
right now the team is saying no 
extension, but I think there's a

1073
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,840
chance he comes back if they, if
they're in the NFC conference 

1074
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,520
championship. 
You're telling me there's no 

1075
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,360
chance they resigned? 
Arnold I I I don't. 

1076
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,880
I don't buy it. 
If you got this play out of 

1077
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,840
McCarthy, you'd be ecstatic. 
Ecstatic. 

1078
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,440
You'd be, dude, you'd be, you'd 
be if, if you. 

1079
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,640
What are they? 
11:00 and 1:11 and 2:11. 

1080
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,640
And two. 11 and two, yeah, they,
they would be like, Oh my God, 

1081
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,320
JJ McCarthy deliver us. 
In fact, McCarthy would be 

1082
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,120
McCarthy. 
They'd be like 7:00 and 5:00 

1083
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,680
with with him. 
McCarthy would not be playing 

1084
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,280
this. 
Well, he can't. 

1085
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,920
Yeah, it would be all. 
Yeah, it'd be very, very 

1086
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:23,880
difficult for him to. 
Play as well. 

1087
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,120
Well, they're defense. 
The entire with McCarthy, but. 

1088
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,640
Their defense is great. 
I mean, maybe not great, but 

1089
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,640
aggressive and like they're 
playing. 

1090
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,280
They're playing teams that can't
handle it. 

1091
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,320
I think it's great. 
Dar Darnold is Darnold is like 

1092
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,040
everyone. 
When Darnold looks bad, he looks

1093
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,600
like such a buffoon. 
Like a bad Darnold play is like 

1094
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,080
a Jameis play where you're just 
like, I don't even know what 

1095
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,880
you're seeing here, but. 
If he plays against Minnesota's 

1096
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,440
defense, he goes 18 for 35244 
two and two. 

1097
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,920
He's only having the success 
because he doesn't have to play 

1098
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,600
the Vikings. 
A little bit. 

1099
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,880
I still, I do still think that I
do Purple Insider with Matt 

1100
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,080
Collar every Wednesday and we 
talk about this at length. 

1101
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,400
What do they do? 
It's a really, it's a good one, 

1102
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:09,560
but he gets paid somewhere. 
It might depend on whether they 

1103
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,840
win in the playoffs. 
You know, if they don't win the 

1104
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,720
playoffs, seems it ever. 
Was Yeah, yeah, bouncing the 

1105
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:17,080
wild card around. 
Sam, thanks for your service. 

1106
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,960
We appreciate you, brother. 
I mean, Case Keenum started an 

1107
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,560
NFC championship game in color 
on color TV for Minnesota and 

1108
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,840
that they they went in a 
different direction. 

1109
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,080
So they've they've been down 
this road. 

1110
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,040
But the deal with Case Keenum, 
the deal you struck with Case 

1111
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,720
Keenum was always, he's a really
good backup quarterback, like 

1112
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:39,080
basically the bet. 
He never, he never agitates. 

1113
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,400
He's a good, good locker room 
guy. 

1114
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,440
He Case Keenum is the point and 
click quarterback. 

1115
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:47,200
I mean, he was an air, he was an
air raid guy. 

1116
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,200
So that. 
Was what he did he? 

1117
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,000
Painted by numbers, Darnold is 
the exact opposite. 

1118
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:53,920
Darnold actually makes stuff 
happen. 

1119
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,240
He, he anticipates, he gets out 
of the pocket, he scrambles, he 

1120
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:00,680
he challenges the defense. 
It's it's not, it's not a one to

1121
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:05,600
one there. 
Yeah, I think Donald, Donald's, 

1122
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,920
to be honest, as as far as like 
looking ahead for what is likely

1123
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,840
to happen. 
I mean, it does. 

1124
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,720
It does feel a little like 
Daniel Jonesy, where you know 

1125
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,240
the worst thing you can do is 
like, commit. 

1126
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,760
To this. 
Yeah, right. 

1127
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,920
Like bet that this will continue
in a way where if you're wrong, 

1128
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,440
you're like screwed. 
Like that's screwed. 

1129
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Yeah, just don't do that. 
I think if you could get him on 

1130
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,320
like a cheap, team friendly two 
year deal with McCarthy so the 

1131
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,240
second he kind of turns into a 
pumpkin you just go to the 

1132
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:30,720
rookie. 
Yeah. 

1133
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,400
God, imagine, imagine a four 
year, $160 million deal for 

1134
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,600
Darnell. 
I mean, the moment that ink 

1135
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,440
dries, you're like, when can we 
get out of this? 

1136
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,760
Yeah. 
How much is guaranteed? 

1137
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,960
Fine, look at Tour right now. 
I mean he is kind of on a heater

1138
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,080
since he came back, but does it 
feel like a Super Bowl? 

1139
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,480
Bet No. 
They they like look depressing, 

1140
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,480
man. 
I don't know what I don't know 

1141
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,560
what the deal is. 
Like no one on that team has 

1142
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,080
broken a tackle in the month of 
November. 

1143
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,800
Like it's every it's like a 
chain scoring a bunch of points,

1144
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,720
but he looks awful doing it. 
A chain. 

1145
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,360
I don't, I don't know what, I 
don't know what the deal is. 

1146
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,000
He. 
Put on weight, he can't put on 

1147
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:10,760
weight. 
It was a running back. 

1148
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:16,280
I that's the Hayden had this 
great tweet yesterday that I 

1149
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,360
think about and I just in 
general, these teams with these 

1150
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,000
five 10195 LB running backs, 
they really just got to make a 

1151
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,680
deal. 
How, when, when, what's the 

1152
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,680
breaking point of giving this 
guy too many carries? 

1153
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:34,200
And I think a chain pretty 
clearly they they basically I, I

1154
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,040
assume it was very similar to 
like Pollard stuff where they 

1155
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,160
were like, we're going to give 
you the ball ton, but you got to

1156
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,040
put on 10 lbs and a chain 
putting on 10 lbs. 

1157
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:43,520
He still has the. 
Vision. 

1158
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,520
Yeah, he still has the vision, 
but he doesn't have the, the, 

1159
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,080
the wiggle, you know? 
Right, right. 

1160
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,360
Yeah, He should have put on the 
weight. 

1161
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,280
Yesterday he got stopped three 
times inside the three early in 

1162
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,440
that game. 
I'm like 30. 

1163
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,360
Six expected points on that 
drive. 

1164
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,640
And then he and then he got he 
got the ball again and he made 

1165
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,400
it. 
So they're no monster. 

1166
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,680
They they used them in that 
role. 

1167
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,440
But as it cost him on the other 
side. 

1168
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,200
Just another hat tip to 
Mayfield. 

1169
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,920
I mean, that's been part of the 
story of the year. 

1170
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,240
These veteran quarterbacks. 
We had Gino already sort of re 

1171
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,280
establish himself and the darn 
old point. 

1172
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,480
But Mayfield, I mean, think 
about the last two years with 

1173
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,120
this guy, you know, shunned from
Cleveland. 

1174
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,280
It's Watson, Carolina. 
Will people remember him playing

1175
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,320
for the Rams in that night game?
I. 

1176
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,400
Remember that That was fun. 
He came in, he didn't have a 

1177
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,560
playbook that. 
Was it was fun? 

1178
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,560
He never practiced. 
Yep. 

1179
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,800
He falls into a good situation 
with Canales and Tampa. 

1180
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,600
They go to the playoffs in a bad
division. 

1181
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,680
Way better than Darnold. 
I think Baker's better than 

1182
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,640
Darnold, for sure. 
The thing with Darnold is you 

1183
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,200
got it. 
Like, I mean, this is funny. 

1184
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,360
We saw this yesterday. 
Like, if you protect him, he can

1185
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,000
do awesome stuff and if you 
don't protect him, he looks like

1186
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,160
a disaster. 
And let the Falcons were getting

1187
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,120
after them throughout that game,
but then they like wouldn't get 

1188
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,960
out or he'd escape. 
You know, he'd make a sick play 

1189
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,200
to Addison. 
But like, a lot of it comes down

1190
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,560
to he's not going to leave in 
the pocket. 

1191
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,840
So you got to like protect him 
and allow him to attack 

1192
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,160
downfield. 
So he's got to be someone with a

1193
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,040
good offensive line, which he is
where he is with a good 

1194
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,160
offensive line right now, but 
most likely if he leaves the 

1195
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,120
Vikings. 
Like I was looking at the PFF 

1196
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,440
pass block grades, like where he
might go, like there's a lot of 

1197
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,760
bad offensive lines out there 
that could use a quarterback. 

1198
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,400
Like the Titans are 28th in pass
block grade, the the Giants are 

1199
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,280
27th. 
So I think like trying to 

1200
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,720
recreate this Darnold experience
on another team and it's 

1201
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,320
probably going to end in 
disaster. 

1202
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,760
The one that jumped out to me, I
was looking at the pass blocking

1203
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:51,160
stuff, was the Colts, not for 
Darnold but for Winston. 

1204
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,960
Doesn't it feel like Winston 
taking over next year when 

1205
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,640
Anthony Richardson gets hurt or 
benched and he just, he just 

1206
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,560
does this again for us? 
You guys, every week, every 

1207
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,040
week, Pat is pushing this idea 
that the Colts are going to go 

1208
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,600
get a a good backup and they 
just did and they got away with 

1209
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,520
it. 
I don't know. 

1210
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,640
Well, I mean, they it we're it's
it's, you know, it's the thing. 

1211
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,360
I mean, I guess Flacco, it might
still be under contract, but 

1212
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,000
replace Flacco with Winston. 
That sounds great to me. 

1213
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,000
Oh. 
Boy, I agree. 

1214
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,400
You too. 
The clock has ticked over one 

1215
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,120
hour, which I don't mind. 
I talked to Pete this week. 

1216
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,960
He's like, Shoop, you're not in 
radio, you don't have to worry 

1217
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,440
about it. 
So I'm not worried about it. 

1218
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,560
But it is an hour and it's been 
fun. 

1219
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,040
Not worried about it, He said 
nervously. 

1220
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,480
I'm but I'm moving on. 
Anything special you guys want 

1221
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,480
to promote? 
You guys are both doing tons of 

1222
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,080
work. 
I mean, right after this, I'm 

1223
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,080
going to go refill my coffee, 
but then Pat and I are going to 

1224
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:54,680
do a playoff baseball stream 
where we fire up the sidekick 

1225
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,520
and talk through some of the 
stuff that basically we're going

1226
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,920
to argue against Sacrilegious 
and his. 

1227
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,840
Do we want to bring him on? 
Do you want us to have the 

1228
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,080
debate? 
Sure, Yeah, if he wants to I. 

1229
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,840
Don't need to have this debate 
and we might as well do it 

1230
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,000
online. 
Yeah, if, if Zach, if Zach is 

1231
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,040
around, he is, he is more than 
welcome to join the program as 

1232
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,480
always. 
Wish I could join you. 

1233
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,200
We'll have to wait until next 
Monday, but good luck tonight 

1234
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,680
and into the best ball playoffs 
with Pat Korean and Davis 

1235
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:23,800
Maddock. 
I'm Mike Shope. 

1236
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,640
This is ADP chasing. 
See you next week. 

1237
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,240
Press the button Pat Oh. 
I got to press it. 

1238
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,960
That's waiting for you guys. 
All right, see you later.