1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,480 Good morning once again from sunny and beautiful Grand 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,600 Island, NY. I'm Mike Shope, welcome back 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,960 under the ship chasing umbrella for another week. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,400 We are, I'm told, exactly 100 days from the NFL opener. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:20,440 Cowboys, Eagles, plenty of time for your 5 or 10 or 150 best 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,040 Ball Mania drafts. I've asked our heroes this week 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:29,120 to send me their five most challenging, puzzling teams for 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,000 fantasy. Actually, I asked Pat for 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,560 backfields, but we'll make it work. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,040 There was some overlap in the choices, but not one team was 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,240 picked by everybody. Of course, risers and fallers, 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,760 that's our brand. And look at the elite tight end 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,080 market and the trends there with our heroes. 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,040 Pat Crane, Davis Maddock, Jacob Sanderson. 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,360 I'm Mike Shope. This is ADP chasing May 27th, 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,440 2025. In Underdog Best Ball, ADP is 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,200 set by two separate yet equally important groups. 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,640 Streamers that set the market and the slappies that chase it. 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:29,440 These are their stories. Speaking of our brands as a team 20 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,880 and individually, Davis has his yesterday's beverage ready to go 21 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:37,480 this very controversial topic from a couple of weeks back. 22 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,120 Unacceptable. The worst part about this is I 23 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,960 haven't had coffee yet. I've got you'll hear. 24 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:45,080 I'll do the pour later. I've got the big. 25 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Oh. Yeah, French press, but I 26 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,160 haven't had coffee yet, so Davis is like kind of beating me by 27 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,000 drinking. He's got caffeine in him from 28 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,680 his yesterday's flat. I've I've already had, I've 29 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,760 already had, I've already had coffee too, you know? 30 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,400 We're we're only have like this glass amount of cold brew 31 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,360 remaining and it's all gone now and and now I'm a little sad. 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Yeah. Here on the East Coast we're 33 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,560 well past coffee hour, but that's good. 34 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,240 Memorial Day weekend. Not a ton of news or anything, 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:20,720 but we have mini camps, you know, sort of this morning had 36 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,680 the unfortunate thought it is a big injury coming. 37 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,360 We really haven't had that yet this season. 38 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,520 Did I just speak that into existence, Pat? 39 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,480 Is it my fault? Hopefully not. 40 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,160 He goes about it now. I'm giving you a hard time. 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,720 Well, I I know about it. We haven't. 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,360 Had a lot of chaos. There's a lot of chaos. 43 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,800 I don't mean injuries, even though I do. 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,320 We haven't had the big preseason injury either the last two 45 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,000 years. We we thought we had one I guess 46 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,960 Cooper Cup last year and and puka but but ADP never reacted 47 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,320 to puka despite us being told and. 48 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,720 No one's. That he what? 49 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:56,200 Well, but we didn't know. No, I know. 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,080 We were, we were being, we were being lied to. 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,000 We had a couple that we actually got and we're like, it's not a 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,560 big deal. It's, it's, it's no big deal 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,200 that McCaffrey hasn't practiced in a month, dude. 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,680 Everyone relaxed. Why is he in Berlin? 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,480 It's not a big deal. Yeah, I mean, the Puka 1 is 56 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,880 crazy because Greg Rosenthal said on the ETR podcast he was 57 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,480 like, I would not be drafting Puka Tukua in my fantasy drafts, 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,200 right? But then everyone was like, 59 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,400 dude, he's fine. And then he basically was fine, 60 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,800 which is crazy is he went on IR and then was fine. 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,880 How often does that happen that a guy goes on IR and then is 62 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,520 fine? That's pretty. 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,000 I mean, you never really get. That oh, I, I remember the buka 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,880 thing very clearly because I was very, very, very strongly puka 65 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,960 over Cooper Cop. And then like I remember, you 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,840 know, the first like 6 or I guess first three weeks of 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,680 season, there's everybody being like, if you drafted puka, 68 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,760 you're a fucking idiot. Clearly it was Cooper cop the 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,480 whole time. And then you know it, obviously 70 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,160 it turned, so it was nice. I love that everybody has a 71 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,520 voice of the fan that they just do not see. 72 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,400 Eye to eye wear. Yeah, none. 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,680 Of them are flattering nobody. Has like a no, it's like 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,760 flattering, yeah. No pro voice of the band. 75 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,280 Most annoying voice they can. Come on most annoying voice 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,280 you've got. That's it. 77 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,240 And you guys know he goes like this. 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,720 He. Gets more Canadian when he does 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,160 his annoying voice, Jacob when he does his. 80 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,399 More annoying get. Super Canadian. 81 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,079 Right, yeah, he leans into. It it's sort of it's it's 82 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:23,880 confusing. A little bit more like this. 83 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,320 So what did you oh boy, there go hang on Andy and turn down to 84 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,240 the local market to grab your Beaver tail. 85 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:31,680 That's like a little bit more where if I'm. 86 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,600 Trying to think it's pretty Canadian, yeah. 87 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,920 I could use a Canadian Bill Simmons at some point. 88 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Have you done Canadian Bill Simmons? 89 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,840 Can buy those I don't think. That would be pretty good, Bill. 90 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,200 Simmons I'll I'll put it in there some. 91 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,760 More This is a This is a potential. 92 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:47,040 I'll get in the lab for you. I'll get in the lab is the 93 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Canadian Bill Simmons. So I used to have a good 94 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,560 Simmons, but then my Simmons turned into me doing Pete as me. 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,720 It it, it blended like I used to. 96 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,840 I used to have a good Simmons and now it's gone. 97 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,480 Pete really changed your impression game. 98 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,560 I my favorite thing is whenever I listen to you and Pete 99 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,840 podcast, like the pyramid of Davis voices where I'll just 100 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:13,640 hear like actual Davis and then Pete doing Davis and then Davis 101 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,760 doing Pete doing Davis and it's like trying to keep track of 102 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,000 what those is happening at any given moment is is hilarious. 103 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Well, the the the Shipshaving discord had a good bit this 104 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:27,560 morning that we should do the randomizer. 105 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:35,120 I'm hosting as Pete, doing me Pete, then doing me as Pete. 106 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,920 We we switched the goals, doing the bits. 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,560 It's a pretty. Interesting idea. 108 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,000 I definitely will. I like it. 109 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,120 Pat, what's your voice for? Oh sure, 4 wide receivers in a 110 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,040 row. That'll work. 111 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,600 What's what is your what is your, you know, average Joe 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,720 sound like Yeah, why don't you? Just take 4. 113 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,200 Why don't you just take 4 wide receivers? 114 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,200 Yeah, it would be that. It would be we, we would, but 115 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,000 the guy would be going. Pat Pat kind of goes like 90s. 116 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,520 Like making fun of someone. Yeah, yeah. 117 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,680 Why, why? Why wouldn't I just take the 118 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,200 best players? Why wouldn't I just take the 119 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,960 best players? That's kind of thing. 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,280 A little bit more New York, a little. 121 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:19,040 Bit more New York, a little bit more like, you fucking idiot. 122 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,600 Well, let's get right to it. Fun first slide. 123 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:32,440 Go ahead, Gilbert Arenis. And talk today, apparently, as I 124 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,120 mentioned ship chasing. I've said people will be 125 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,520 thrilled that we didn't discuss hockey today as I learned about 126 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,640 ship. Chasing, yeah, people, people in 127 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,000 the mandate in the chat were telling me to to zone out and 128 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,960 get ready for the hockey talk. Yeah, yeah. 129 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,400 Not how much time. It's in the last ship chasing 130 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,000 episode for me, you know to tune in. 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,160 I'm like can't wait to spend an hour and a half with my 132 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,000 favorite. Podcast well listen, fair 133 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,560 enough, but the the the sign on the door even says it. 134 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,520 These are our stories. The guy flies across the country 135 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,200 to go to game seven for his favorite team. 136 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,760 I mean, we don't have favorite. Teams, I thought we were doing a 137 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,680 bit, I think. From Vancouver to Toronto, I, 138 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,960 you got to ask him about that, that loss. 139 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,360 I mean, it was kind of. Crane, I was. 140 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Crane, I think I can get you back. 141 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Crane, I think I can get you back into the hockey talk here. 142 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,160 I have a just like a truly unbelievable stat. 143 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,680 I apologize. I this is this is not on me 144 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,200 that. We survived about it. 145 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,560 I I didn't have anything to do with it. 146 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,160 This is a this is a like a a Dallas Cowboys level streak. 147 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,520 The Carolina Hurricanes are O in 16 in conference finals games 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,760 over the last. Oh, they did. 149 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:40,480 They win last. Night. 150 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Last night, yeah. I fell asleep. 151 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,760 So they're one. They're one in 16 they. 152 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,400 Want to know OK. That moment was worth all the 153 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,440 hockey talk. They're one. 154 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,720 In. 16 invalidated last night because he fell asleep. 155 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,760 Because I fell asleep. I did actually have the 156 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,600 conversation. 16 is still pretty crazy. 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,200 Yeah, with my wife about about the hockey point and I, I 158 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,840 wondered how many NHL teams Pat could name. 159 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,760 But let's not do that. I'm now just picture you like 160 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,600 the Hurricanes like. I think I could name a like. 161 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,120 The 18 fucking one. Fair amount Penguins, Jazz, 162 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Hurricanes. Jazz, jazz that's so good. 163 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Jazz is right now what is Please lose Blues. 164 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,120 Blues, it's a four, it's a music, it's a genre music. 165 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Yeah, I knew it was. I knew it was jazz Adjacent. 166 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:35,720 It's adjacent. I love that to like go to like. 167 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,760 A Knights barn. They're Knights Las Vegas in. 168 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,280 Chicago and be like, hey, yeah, are you guys jazz adjacent? 169 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,240 They they would have to say yes. I guess you're not guys 170 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,840 adjacent. The the gold, the Golden 171 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,560 Knights, Sir, the Golden Knights to give. 172 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,080 The Golden Knights give it to him. 173 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,640 The Golden Knights. Now, now, Pat, the Golden 174 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,960 Knights are sort of this unbelievable. 175 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,040 Rangers in. Rangers 2, which is like, it's, 176 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,880 it's kind of a fascinating case study for expansion teams that 177 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,920 maybe the NFL should study if they're ever going to do it. 178 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,680 But now. They're raised. 179 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,640 No, that's the baseball. That's baseball. 180 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:13,360 I'm out. I probably do a bit more, but 181 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:15,320 I'm going to start. I'm going to start to have to 182 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,320 mix in baseball teams a little more aggressively as we go, so I 183 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,080 think we can move on. The Blue Jays Blue. 184 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,120 Jays. There has to be a Tigers in at 185 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,840 least one of these sports. Pat, they had a whole team that 186 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,520 did not have a name. Their first season this last 187 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,000 year, they were just, they were just EU. 188 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,240 The Devil rays. The Devil Rays, by the way. 189 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,400 That's that's mixing up two things. 190 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,960 That's a defunct team. That's also no longer their 191 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,080 name. They're just the Rays. 192 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:45,600 They're just the rays. They're just, well, so this is 193 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,120 The funny thing, is it? It used to be the Toronto Blue 194 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Jays and the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, and then the Blue Jays 195 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,920 became just the Jays, and then the Blue Jays went back to being 196 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,280 the Blue Jays, but then the Devil Rays went back to just 197 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,200 being the Rays. Wouldn't the New Jersey Devils a 198 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,000 thing? Yeah, yeah, they are. 199 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,080 That's still a thing. They don't have. 200 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Any that's what I I've told you I'm going to start mixing up 201 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,200 with baseball, but. This whole. 202 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Show David Potty famously was a New Jersey Devils fan and wore 203 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,320 entirely scary Devil mask because he's got to support. 204 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,600 The team, well, I got the Devils then. 205 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,280 This whole show will be oh, what about Luther Burden? 206 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,640 And then Pat yells out twins. That's just going to be yelling 207 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,120 out names if baseball teams are. Going to think of he needs to 208 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,080 know less. I'm rich. 209 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,680 Wait, we were talking about Jordan Mason. 210 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,000 Well, Delaware. 'S so I just thought of a 211 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,960 baseball team man. Delaware's never had a hockey 212 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,600 team, right? Well, they've never had any 213 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,840 teams. All they have is just like LLCS. 214 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:52,120 Come on man, don't do Delaware exactly accurately LLC. 215 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Such a good burn, damn it. That would be their team they 216 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,960 ever got hockey team, the Delaware LLCS. 217 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Delaware's teams are in Philly and Baltimore. 218 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,200 That's where. Delaware's or in DC depending on 219 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,600 what part of the Dover. Favorable tax laws for 220 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,960 corporations. I'm not saying it's good for the 221 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,920 overall, but I think. My be the Wilmington. 222 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,840 But is for this to not happen? I think what I'm supposed to be 223 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,440 here for is for this to not happen. 224 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,600 That's correct. Again, let me try it. 225 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,520 The first. Slide Was it the weekend of 226 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,560 bully QB? We've got Pat, we've got Gilbert 227 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:28,440 Arenas. I mean, what a way to start, you 228 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,400 know, quote, start. We're 12 minutes in. 229 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,320 Audio listeners. Here he is on the left daily 230 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,080 Rojo himself. He loves his Drake May people 231 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,800 are talking about it still happening and then Gilbert 232 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,240 Arenas what what is happening here? 233 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,800 He thought he start, he's in these drafts and he starts Josh 234 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,560 Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts, like 235 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,480 what's what's going on, Cormac? 'S putting those butts so he 236 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,560 obviously some portion of his 1099 contractor agreement gets 237 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:01,280 paid out an underdog site credit. 238 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:05,480 He's probably sitting there with however much 5 figures, maybe 6 239 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,360 figures of site credit. I really couldn't say and said 240 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,320 oh, there's this tournament $2,000,000 is to 1st I'd like to 241 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,680 get the most projected points. Obviously that's how you win 242 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:16,000 right? By getting the most points. 243 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,280 He does his default rankings by projected points presses the 244 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,880 plane adios. That's it that's all I need 245 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,600 right? It's. 246 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,520 It's literally that simple. He's. 247 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Not he. It's funny. 248 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,480 He's not drafting, he's just organizing by points and letting 249 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,640 it, you know, bleed. Would you would you say that 250 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,440 he's an unsophisticated auto drafter? 251 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,000 I would I would say that he. Is that sounds right? 252 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,040 Yeah, I would say, I would say unsophisticated auto drafting. 253 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,240 By the way. Exactly how I would describe it. 254 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,640 That team on the right, I mentioned the quarterbacks who 255 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,560 are shown, it's 4 quarterbacks and five tight ends. 256 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Then after that, yeah, running backs. 257 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,680 Because because if you sort by projected points as the as the 258 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:02,480 chat is pointing out, this will be a thing that you would note 259 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,960 your your tight ends are actually getting projected for 260 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,720 more points than Diami Brown or or or Adam Thielen or Stepper. 261 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,760 No, but he's drafted 5 tight ends to start. 262 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,760 By the ninth round. He doesn't have a running back 263 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,240 or receiver yet, so he's. Maybe he literally, maybe 264 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,440 literally in his app, he accidentally clicked the tight 265 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,360 end tab instead of the wide receiver tab when he was 266 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,840 clicking all the rankings or like his personal assistant 267 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,240 who's doing this. Like I I think I think. 268 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,040 He might just be digging around in the app. 269 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,720 He might be have his phone out. He's I promise you, he's not 270 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,280 drafting these. I promise you I'm not. 271 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,120 He's he's auto drafting I think. It's way more fun if he is. 272 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Yeah, me too. That's. 273 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,520 True that that that that didn't happen. 274 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,640 I love the idea that Gilbert Arenas was like, yeah, I'm just 275 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,120 gonna, I'm just gonna do some phone shit and underdog. 276 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,280 Draft yeah, I could see him phone shit yeah, I don't think 277 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,440 he's using the sidekick, you know, looking at this team, but 278 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,960 he's he might be. I don't think we have to worry 279 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:03,720 about real time assistance. But I think he might be on the 280 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:08,200 phone. It is John Roto. 281 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,120 Rod had the best take about this, but it is very funny that 282 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,320 like within two weeks we had everybody furious that Best Ball 283 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,240 was dead because of real time assistance and then now Best 284 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,440 Ball's dead because Gilbert Arena because. 285 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Gilbert is killing your. Dream and it's like it's like 286 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,520 these can't both be true like you can't be like these guys are 287 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,080 drafting too good of teams. I don't have any edge like this 288 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,640 guy just drafted the four quarterbacks. 289 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,520 I'm going to do a little super team because my bride, Thomas. 290 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,240 There's another new voice, by the way. 291 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,960 There's another new voice. Yeah. 292 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,560 What gets a draft cancelled like would that? 293 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,240 This would get a draft cancelled if it wasn't Gilbert Arenas I 294 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,360 would say. No chance. 295 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Also also also clearly a misunderstanding like Pat I, I 296 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,360 you're definitely wrong because the key thing that happens with 297 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,000 cancelled drafts is if there are two little projected points, 298 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,160 like if you start taking like Jacori, Kroski, Merritt in the 299 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,160 sixth round and then that honestly might even fly. 300 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,280 What doesn't fly is if you have like 14 guys who are like UFL 301 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,920 players that is going to trigger a draft to get cancelled. 302 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,080 Like you have an entire roster of projected zeros, but it's 303 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,320 it's pretty clear you don't. Think they're doing anything 304 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,680 positionally like the you're like you're running back 1 is 305 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,280 you know, and your wide receiver 1 is like you have like 306 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,080 literally no projected points at running back wide receiver seems 307 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,720 bad like if. They if they started to cancel 308 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,320 drafts for having no projected points at running backs, we 309 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,640 would have. A lot of yeah, I was going. 310 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,520 To say the ship chasing. Community would be we'd all be 311 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,600 screwed. Like if you look at his teams. 312 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,160 All of our accounts. All of our accounts are 313 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,840 suspended. The the ADP drafts are just not 314 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,880 that. Like the ADP of the picks are 315 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,800 not, they're just not that far of a spread. 316 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,000 They're just they're they're really just really shitty auto 317 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,080 drafted teams like they're that they look weird, but there's 318 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,880 nothing about it that is it's going to project for like 10th 319 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,080 in the pod in week 1. You know what I'm saying? 320 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,000 Like it just it really. There's nothing about it that 321 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,640 would be cancelable. I mean, taking all four of the 322 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,920 elite quarterbacks and then drafting five straight tight 323 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,200 ends. How many? 324 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,680 How many times did? How many times? 325 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,480 Did he was pretty bad? How many times did Gritty get a 326 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,000 draft cancelled? He was like doing this on 327 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,920 purpose last year. Yeah, OK. 328 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,920 Yeah. I don't know. 329 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,840 I don't. I actually don't know what gets 330 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,720 the draft cancelled very well, so you may very well be right 331 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,320 that this is totally fine. I see. 332 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,240 People in the discord all the time referencing it feels like 333 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,040 anyway they're cancelled drafts. I've only ever been in one that 334 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,720 I remember getting the. I've had a few cancelled and I 335 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,840 don't I bet you've. Had more than you think show. 336 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,400 I bet that has been ones that you like just mysteriously 337 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,040 disappeared on you without being aware that. 338 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Feels good there. There's two things going on 339 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,360 here. The first being that I believe, 340 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,400 based on my anecdotal experience, that they have 341 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,240 widened the gap of what they consider a cancelable team. 342 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,960 This is true in battle royales and this is true in like I think 343 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,560 I mean, I did 300, two, 170 big board drafts and I think the 344 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,760 only ones that got cancelled were the the day of the Super 345 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,800 Bowl. The Chiefs equals. 346 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,160 Yeah, those got cancelled, yeah. We're like Justin Watson was 347 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,560 going in the seventh round, right? 348 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:36,200 But I mean, even in, even in, even in BRS, I've like the two 349 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,640 game BRS, I've noticed that the band of things that are quote UN 350 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,400 quote allowed or not tossed out has gotten a little bit wider, 351 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,680 which frankly, I think really the only reason the draft should 352 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,040 be thrown out. And this is a general rule. 353 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,320 I'm not saying that this is unilaterally true. 354 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,960 Would be obvious collusion, right? 355 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Yeah. Or yeah, a team of 16 undrafted 356 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,600 players, you know. That's that's really more what 357 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,320 it Yeah, but you're right. That's what gets teams thrown 358 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,040 out because that's kind of the collusion element. 359 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,440 That's how you do collusion right as you come in and you 360 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,680 just draft a bunch of stinkers. You draft some 18 pick, 18 round 361 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,480 picks in the early rounds so a guy can get a much better pick. 362 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,120 Like I remember the last draft I was in that was cancelled for 363 00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:28,040 sure was one of the big board drafts where a guy got sniped on 364 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,760 Zay Flowers. It was just very funny. 365 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,760 He got, he got sniped on Zay Flowers with Lamar like in a 366 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,880 totally normal way. Like Zay Flowers was like a 367 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,120 fourth round pick and he lost his mind and started taking, you 368 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:41,320 know, like Ronald Jones or whatever in round. 369 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,600 Come on, man. Yeah. 370 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,640 It's just, it was, it was top, it was top of mind and, and and 371 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,240 that one. Delaware, the LL has got 372 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,280 professional LLCS and Ronald Jones gets draft cancelled. 373 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,560 You guys are killing me this morning. 374 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,040 But I remember that that was the last one I remember being tossed 375 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,120 out but. But jazz adjacent. 376 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Well, sometimes what'll happen is it'll be during a streamed 377 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,800 draft. This is my experiences. 378 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,800 It'll be during a streamed draft and then a person will start 379 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,840 doing this and then you'll remind them that they can get 380 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,240 their account banned for purposely throwing drafts 381 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,200 because it's happened and they realize the person doing this 382 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,960 tilting is like, oh I don't want my account banned, let me go 383 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,360 back to drafting. Right. 384 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,720 Yeah. Credit to Zach Lennars once 385 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,640 again for I mean, what a great job here with the two poses, 386 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,960 like perfectly mirrored. How could you do better than 387 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,760 that with that arena's pose versus Pat? 388 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,440 It really is good. I've got a, I've got a pour and 389 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,400 I've got a question. So here's. 390 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,120 The Oh nice. Oh yeah, that. 391 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,400 Hits the. Rig where you want to get. 392 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,400 It is that. Is that a pour or is that porn? 393 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,640 Well, I think it depends. Depends on how much you like the 394 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,360 poor, I guess. I. 395 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,200 Think it's more ASMR than than porn. 396 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,040 Fair. That's fair. 397 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:03,320 The question is, should taking Drake May with Kyla Murray and 398 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Dak Prescott get get your draft toss? 399 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Discuss amongst yourselves. I I do have questions on like 400 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,320 the taking Dak's 17 picks ahead of ADP just to take Drake May 401 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,920 exactly at ADP later. Dak was a Lamb Lamb team, no 402 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,440 doubt. Yeah, Lamb Dickens. 403 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,720 OK. All right. 404 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,160 Yeah. How much may are you into this 405 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,200 year of last year? It was the pretty pretty good 406 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,520 amount. I. 407 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,840 Enough to take him directly at ADP without any stack partners. 408 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,880 A lot of Kyler DAC team so I'm thinking that's pretty. 409 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,520 Into it pretty into Drake, man. Yeah, the I am, I am more into 410 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,480 the three quarterback builds this year than than I have been. 411 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,160 We're going to have some stuff on that soon, but this was 412 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,200 mostly me just loving Drake May. I do recall because I would, I 413 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,080 did like a ton of puppies yesterday. 414 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,840 I only got in like 50 total, but I was just slamming them 415 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,320 yesterday and so I was multi tabling for this one. 416 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:09,000 But I do recall coming back to this team and being like a 417 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,320 little thin at running back now. Kind of I. 418 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:18,560 Wish I had a running back around 124 let's say, but I took my 419 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,080 medicine here. We've probably all been in in 420 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,280 drafts, maybe like most drafts where you get to that range and 421 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,560 you hate everybody else. Like you just don't want any of 422 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,080 the running backs, you don't want any of those receivers. 423 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,240 So like. That's why, that's why I have 424 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,280 33% facial tootin because I get there and I'm just like. 425 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:38,080 Davis matters. And yet you don't have the 426 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,240 highest facial tootin percentage on this podcast. 427 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,720 I'm not gonna have the highest percentage of any player because 428 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,960 by the end I'm gonna have 8.3% of every player in the player 429 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,320 pool. Yeah, I I'm the opposite 430 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,600 actually. It's funny that Davis has gotten 431 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,480 that way. I've gone completely the 432 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,400 opposite way. I used to always, even when I 433 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,440 had rankings, I've never drafted my rankings set. 434 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,640 I would always draft with off the ADP. 435 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,520 I've changed that this year. I now draft exclusively off of 436 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,360 my rankings, which at first I was doing just to sort of like 437 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,760 force me to keep. Tinkering with my rankings and 438 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,040 make me better. Which has been helpful I think 439 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,320 within like every day, but also it's it's meant that I just 440 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,480 don't see 80 of the players in the player pool. 441 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,080 So I I will have you know what higher percentages, which is 442 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,040 like kind of what I actually want, but like. 443 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,200 That's an issue I'm. Currently like 35% or higher on 444 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,840 like. 10 so I'm I'm having an issue with that too. 445 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,320 There are just some guys I literally never see. 446 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,920 Like I just, I just. Don't. 447 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,600 I don't think it's an issue I don't want. 448 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,680 I don't want to draft. Well, when you know the players 449 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,960 that you don't draft are literally the record-breaking 450 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,880 highest ADP advance rate players in the history of famous 451 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,000 football, it's a bit of an issue. 452 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,160 I don't believe based on what evidence, man, this, this panel 453 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,200 right here, these three of like, bro, I've been 7% of my teams 454 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,920 last year. There's very little evidence for 455 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,440 self belief. Jacob like I, you know, 456 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,680 sometimes you got to take it on the chin and have a. 457 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,560 Little bit of humility band called Chumba Wamba Davis. 458 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,400 I am of course. Right. 459 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,480 Like sometimes you get knocked down. 460 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,680 S 1 slate, buddy, just one slate. 461 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,680 We've had better slates. The yeah, that my thing with 462 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,880 like the 10 player, like over the years I've kind of tended to 463 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,640 be I've tended to be much more likely to regret like my medium 464 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,000 stance than my big stance. So like if I have a guy that I 465 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,640 think I should have like 30% of, I'm like rarely like what was I 466 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,440 thinking? Because I've put a lot of 467 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,120 thought into it. And even if it's wrong, you 468 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:42,960 know, I'm like, it's rare that I kind of like slept walk my way 469 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,160 to something like that. But I have slept my slept walk 470 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:52,920 my way a little bit to like 2324% type stuff which is where 471 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,480 I'm. I have a trying to refine that. 472 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:01,720 Right now, Corinne, I have a sleepwalking percentage of 23% 473 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,040 of Roshan Johnson right now. There you go and it's. 474 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,640 An easy click. He's an easy click. 475 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,120 I was gonna say it's totally defensible, right? 476 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,960 Like clear running back to an offense we expect to be good. 477 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,120 He should play some passing downs. 478 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:17,000 He should get some goal line stuff but he can also be sent to 479 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,520 like literal turbo nuclear 0 by like JK Dobbins just showing up 480 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,440 in Chicago. I'm actually very comfortable 481 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,200 with my 32% of ROSHA jobs today. No, it's fine. 482 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,200 I mean, but sometimes you sometimes you sleepwalk, right? 483 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,000 And then you wake up and you're like making a sandwich. 484 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:35,600 Well, and you're like, oh, sick. And then you eat the sandwich. 485 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,080 You know what I mean? Like you don't have to, but wake 486 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,120 up and check what you're doing and. 487 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,640 The. You know, and sometimes you 488 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,760 sleepwalk and, you know, you're, you're like my uncle once told 489 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,680 his future brother-in-law that he was going to kill him. 490 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,960 And as he was sleepwalking and the brother-in-law had come home 491 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,800 for the weekend and didn't know anyone would be in his room. 492 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,240 So, you know, that can happen too. 493 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,200 So yeah, you might. That's why I felt, that's why I 494 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,400 felt when I looked at my 35% Luther burden and then I got the 495 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,720 notification that he had a soft tissue injury that that I felt 496 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,520 like my nephew is in grave danger. 497 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,880 Yeah, yeah. So sleepwalking can go a couple 498 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,000 of different ways. It's good to just wake up and 499 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,120 check out what's going on. What a delivery. 500 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,200 So that can happen too. You know your uncle can tell 501 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,520 your brother-in-law he's about to die. 502 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,240 You know that can happen too. You know. 503 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,760 You guys guys, you guys want to know how little faith I have? 504 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,760 I only have I only have 18.5% of Xavier worthy. 505 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,360 Wow. Yeah, I have 0.0 but. 506 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,320 You're not taking worthy. I I take it way too fast dude. 507 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,640 In a puppy 1 so I I have a bunch of puppy slows. 508 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,960 I, I only, you know I worthy. Doesn't seem like a player 509 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,200 you're typically fading. Let's talk me through it. 510 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,120 Well, first of all, you know, I have to make time in my life to, 511 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,200 to go on various dates to find a woman to live with and listen to 512 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,440 the new pornographers. So I, I can only fast draft 513 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,280 BBMSI, just slow draft the puppies. 514 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:16,400 So there's some words in there. Oh you're saying you auto 515 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:16,960 drafted? Him. 516 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,160 Is that what? Is that what you were telling? 517 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,200 Me. No, no, I'm saying I I have 518 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,000 taken worthy. It just hasn't hit my my 519 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,800 exposures yet. Got it, Got it. 520 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,640 Got it. But no, I just he. 521 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,000 I mean, we've had the worthy discussion before. 522 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,560 I don't. Think yeah, you you plug, you 523 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,440 plug a 42140 into Jacob's model. And like I want I want like 35% 524 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,720 Travis Hunter, so I take him ahead of Xavier worthy every 525 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,920 single time. And then if I I also want like 526 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,160 35% of Breece Hall so I take. Yeah, well, that that's the name 527 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,280 I was hoping you were going to say. 528 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,080 You can just take. Breece like worthy if I ever 529 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,080 want well well, but I take well, I take breeze and hunter 530 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,040 together in like most of my drafts. 531 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:57,920 And then if I ever don't want to take hunter for some reason, I 532 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:05,240 will prioritize TAT and. 35% Travis Hunter is like flying the 533 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,000 slappy flag. Like it's like, it's like 534 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,040 approach like you're, you're, you're on your, you're on your 535 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,360 ship approaching the coast and you're trying to signal to 536 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:16,320 someone your intentions and you just slap up the 35% Hunter. 537 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,560 Exposure and they're. Like, all right, we, we know 538 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,520 exactly what we're dealing with, right? 539 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:29,600 Here 35% Hunter is like the slappy like guitar guy from from 540 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,040 from Mad Max on the on the truck. 541 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,280 It literally, it's like if someone ever asked me now, like 542 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,600 define slappy. I'll be like, just show me your 543 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,760 Diami Brown and your Travis Hunter exposures and I can tell 544 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,360 you exactly who you are. Buddy I have I currently have 545 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,240 42% by Shell Tooten 32% Trevor Lawrence. 32. 546 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,640 Percent Travis Hunter and 14% beyond the ground. 547 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,920 Duval. Yeah, I'm gonna. 548 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:08,280 I'm gonna win Duval the money. He's got his Colts. 549 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,200 You know it's Jacob. He's got his Colts with it. 550 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,440 Jacob is gonna be the world's number one Liam Cohen and Trevor 551 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,720 Lawrence Hayter when in Week 4. Hunter is running 17% of the 552 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,600 routes with two Ender rounds per game and Travis Mutien is 553 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,120 averaging 3.7 yards per carry on 22 touches a game. 554 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,160 Yeah. That's fair. 555 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,880 So yeah, you're right. This is how Jacob's getting his 556 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,960 cults. They can't draft the cults 557 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,440 directly, so there has to be bring backs on massive 558 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,440 Jacksonville exposure. That's true. 559 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,240 Whatever it takes, whatever it. Takes and I do. 560 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,600 I have. John Cohen is a Morton. 561 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Joe Jacob a war boy. Yeah. 562 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,840 Oh, God. All right. 35% hunter is is is 563 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:08,520 that like even if you the the the band of outcomes doesn't 564 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,320 contain enough sees like I just I like Travis hunter. 565 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,720 I'm totally fine with this being a pro Travis Hunter show. 566 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,480 They're they're just I don't see the volume. 567 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,840 I think he's going to have some crazy spikes, but like, he just 568 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,680 is they're. Going to throw like 650 passes 569 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,920 and there's two players that are good enough to catch any of them 570 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,520 they they play at a high pace they're gonna have a high pass 571 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,240 rate. I like, I know that people don't 572 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,480 like Trevor Lawrence. This is like the big. 573 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,240 I just am a massive and always have been a Trevor Lawrence 574 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,760 believer and I'm very willing to just like ride or die with 575 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,480 Trevor in a good situation this year. 576 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,960 And if to me, like if Trevor just isn't good, then I'm, I 577 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,520 have just been like wrong about Trevor Lawrence for four years 578 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,520 and I can like fully. Accept that honestly I I think 579 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,160 the 35% hundred drafters are going to be like fist pumping 580 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,360 him matching Xavier worthy stats from last year. 581 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,040 That's my truth, Sierra. Yeah, I think if Travis Hunter 582 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,920 has 1.51 yards per out run, I would be pretty surprised. 583 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,400 No, his yards per out run will be better. 584 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,720 Because he's gonna run a lot of routes. 585 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,280 I, I, I just think like personally, and this is like, 586 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,960 obviously there's a wide range of outcomes. 587 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,480 It's like actually very easy to figure out how like this loses 588 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,880 me my best ball season. Yeah, that's the part that I 589 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,640 have a little trouble with with Hunter is that like you can 590 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,960 pretty easily see why. But we're all gonna lose anyway. 591 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,000 Like this. Like that just doesn't. 592 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,040 That just doesn't. Yeah, but I mean in the fourth 593 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,480 round. That's such a good point, Jacob. 594 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,560 Like to me, like I, I like This is why I take a high stand on 595 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,960 guys. Like I would rather just like 596 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,400 have the fewest number of things that I need to get right for me 597 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,920 to have an awesome season. So it's like I understand like 598 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,560 if Hunter is a massive bust, like my season's over. 599 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,800 But like I know that if Hunter and Bree Paul are awesome, then 600 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,200 like I will have an awesome season. 601 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,640 And I would rather just bet on those two things happening and 602 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,960 then we'll see where the cards fall. 603 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Where they're only The thing is, is they're only awesome is if 604 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,080 the there are other round four, round three players that do do 605 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,240 not outscore them weeks 15 through 17. 606 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Yeah, fair. But I mean, that's that's. 607 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,920 A big yeah, but the The thing is like you have big edges in like 608 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,880 terms of structure and building teams that are actually like 609 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,360 built to win the tournament and stuff. 610 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,480 So it's not like I feel like you're resorting to, you know, 611 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,960 like a player take thing that you don't have to if you're if 612 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,280 you're like, well, my season just rests on, you know, these 613 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,920 this third and fourth round pick like. 614 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,160 It doesn't have to rest on that than it's been in years past. 615 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,760 I think a huge portion of the field is just building their 616 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,080 teams correctly in terms of exposures and balancing. 617 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,800 Week 17 and everything. Guess you're not paying 618 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,720 attention to the Gilbert Arenas discourse. 619 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,280 No, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm really like paying attention. 620 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,640 To RTA stuff has very much like influenced me to take larger 621 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,280 stands on on players. That's fair. 622 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,920 That's fair. As long as there's not too much 623 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,560 of an overreaction to the running back, you know, crushes 624 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,200 from last year, I think I would agree with that. 625 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,120 Overall. Risers ready? 626 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,960 Yeah, let's do it, let's do it. It'll be interesting to see like 627 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,480 in August when the more like casual groups come in, how high 628 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,040 the running back ADP gets. I. 629 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:23,360 Am at the top of the list today. Christian McCaffrey, 13% from 630 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,280 pick 12:00-ish to pick 10. Also listed Jameson Williams, 631 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,760 George Pickens. These are the risers, 3 backup 632 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,040 running backs we'll talk about in some more detail a little 633 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,480 bit. Jalen Wright, Will Shipley, 634 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,600 Justice Hill, then Ricky Piersall, Josh Downs and Travis 635 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Etienne. Here we go. 636 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,160 Like that is a player that people had said enough already 637 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,400 going into the 10th round and are willing to take that chance 638 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,320 more than even a week ago. Yeah, well toot and fumble once 639 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,400 in practice so you know, I got to re evaluate. 640 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600 I, I have AI have a, an admission. 641 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,640 I, I in the in the puppy that is currently closed. 642 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,600 I, I'm in like 50 slows or whatever. 643 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,640 When I had a back half pick like 7 through 12 or whatever. 644 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,400 I just took McCaffrey every time because I'm like, I'm pretty 645 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,040 sure McCaffrey is going to get to the Bijan Gibbs range by like 646 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,840 July 1st. So I was just like, let me just 647 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,200 let me just get a good amount of these bags packed now and then I 648 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,280 can do more normal exposures on that later. 649 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,920 I think that's probably right. The McCaffrey thing scares me. 650 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,320 Like I, we've seen similar things, like last year, for 651 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,400 instance, with Cop was a player that like I became apparent he 652 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,320 was going to rise, but I thought he was a very bad pick at his 653 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280 opening price. So I just didn't care how much 654 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,400 he rose cuz like I, I was like 0 worked for me and I, I've always 655 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,960 been, this is like more than I think you guys. 656 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,600 Like I, I acknowledge your point. 657 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,640 I, I won't, it won't change how I draft, but I acknowledge your 658 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,800 point that maybe I should have fewer 35% stands on players. 659 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,520 I actually totally disagree on the idea of the, the exposure 660 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,240 blanket. Like I actually like I'm very 661 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:09,560 comfortable zeroing players. So like with, with the Cub, I 662 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,560 didn't care with McCaffrey, it's a little bit more dangerous. 663 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,199 I, I do like totally see how he beats me and I think it's pretty 664 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,400 likely. So I probably would like to just 665 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,280 like squeeze in as much now as I can because I don't think I'm 666 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,880 going to want to draft him if he gets into like the 6-7 range. 667 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,199 Yeah, I could easily see him getting there. 668 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:32,080 He that's where he should go probably if you know, things 669 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,440 proceed like they look like they're going to so. 670 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:39,320 Yeah, McCaffrey or Gentie. McCaffrey could probably will 671 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,560 flip Gentie. I think most likely will flip 672 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,120 Gentie, yeah. That's the thing where like I, I 673 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,159 do like Gentie more. I have them ranked higher, but I 674 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,159 I have taken McCaffrey ahead of Gentie a couple times just 675 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:53,679 because I I do think he's going to flip them. 676 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,400 The, the problem that I'm having with McCaffrey and Gentie is 677 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:05,960 that like I think I just want Kuka and neighbors and Amanara 678 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,000 and Nico like at a pretty high clip. 679 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,440 And so as like with both of those guys, I used to just slam 680 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,960 Genti when he was anytime in the late 1st. 681 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,880 And then McCaffrey I was, I never quite got there in terms 682 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,200 of like the drafting behavior. I was like truly slamming him. 683 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,760 But I mentally was like, it's time to slam McCaffrey. 684 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,480 But now that they're moving up a bit, it's like, it's not that 685 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,120 they shouldn't move up, but I'm just like looking at the draft 686 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,040 landscape and I'm going to have an article out on my draft plan 687 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:44,360 this week. I just I just really want the 688 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,800 first round receiver in a lot of cases. 689 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,800 Might might that have something to do with a certain running 690 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,200 back that you like? 3 fourth turn. 691 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,240 Yeah, it does it. And I specifically worried about 692 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:56,200 Bree Saul in the draft because he's like a big part. 693 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,040 My whole thing is like, I'm like. 694 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,000 What? Can I get later in the draft? 695 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,560 Can I get like some? Can I get someone who's going to 696 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,120 like could be easily the top five at their position at 697 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,880 running back, Like, yeah, like I have a bunch of options 698 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,560 actually. And at receiver it's like a 699 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,520 little bit tougher, you know, to to see yourself like hitting on 700 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,280 a top five receiver and running back if you go running back and 701 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,920 then you know, try to grab the receiver in like the 4th, 5th or 702 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,640 6th. So. 703 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,800 And there's also Bowers there, Pat, maybe like in that same 704 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,160 region. Well, that there isn't Bowers 705 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,960 there now. He's he's in the middle of the 706 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,760 second, but he should. Be 206 there, yeah. 707 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,320 Right. Yeah, Well, that's the thing 708 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,280 that's been the big thing I've been experiencing was that there 709 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,760 I actually like a lot of the running backs in like round six 710 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,800 and seven more than some of the receivers, but I've basically 711 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,520 not been able to take them because I take a ton of Bowers. 712 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:55,840 I have 42% Breeze Hall currently, yeah. 713 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,240 And so it's. Like you know then if I. 714 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,840 Take and Bowers and Hall like I kind of just like it's like 715 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,760 Trigon Henderson, like kind of can't join those teams. 716 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,560 Like I can't really take like it's. 717 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,800 Like I think he can. Yeah. 718 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,560 And I've done it on occasion. I've done it on occasion, but it 719 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,000 it makes things a little bit more difficult. 720 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,200 It does. It's a little more comfortable, 721 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,840 but I think he can. I think he can be on those 722 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,240 teams. Is is kind of where I'm at? 723 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,520 Yeah, So I, I've, I've mixed in builds like that, but it's, 724 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,960 it's, it's I've taken more of the receivers in 6-7 than I 725 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,960 actually want to. So I, I have tried to experiment 726 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,560 with getting ahead of that. And sometimes I've just done it 727 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,560 where I just load up on the running backs early. 728 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,080 And other times I, I try to break ties to neighbors or Nico 729 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,160 or, or something or Brian Thomas. 730 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,760 Yeah. Yeah, this this group of 731 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,960 because, because like in the current environment, you know, 732 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,640 like last year, one of the big things that I took away was 733 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,440 like, it was not a good idea to get like boxed into taking a 734 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,600 bunch of Christian Kirk, you know, like, oh, I got to, I got 735 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,080 to, I got to take a receiver. Surely, surely I want to regret 736 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,760 sixth round Jacoby Myers. I mean just surely that's just 737 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,760 like really good and prudent ways to to use your hard earned 738 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,080 US or Canadian dollars. I just can't see any possible 739 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,520 way that that goes wrong for anybody. 740 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,000 Or this very top to just accept 9.9 half PPR points per game in 741 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,880 round 6? Yeah, I mean, and, and you know, 742 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,480 there's guys in that range that are like, like Calvin Ridley, I, 743 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,120 I have the whole pre draft period, I was like, this guy's 744 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,040 going to go on the fifth round as soon as I draft KM Ward 745 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,320 number one. I don't know why he's not going 746 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,280 there now. And now he's going in the fifth 747 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,720 round. He's got an ADP of 55.9. 748 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,480 But like I didn't I haven't seen him in my app. 749 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,560 Yeah, well, fair. And like good for you because 750 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,080 he's not. I don't think he's a bad pick. 751 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,080 Like, and if you're in a position where you need 752 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,600 receiver, like, you might as well get it done and take Calvin 753 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,360 Ridley. Like don't punt receiver. 754 00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,400 But like, is he going to outscore the running backs 755 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,800 there? Is he going to outscore Joe 756 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,920 Mixon on the season? Is he going to outscore RJ 757 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,440 Harvey in the playoffs? Like not. 758 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,880 Going to happen. Just take the running back, you 759 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,760 know, like that's there's, there's a couple different. 760 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,720 Well, when you start, when you start doing that, it gets tricky 761 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:15,800 pretty quick because the running. 762 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,840 Back haven't you haven't you heard that the optimal IS0 wide 763 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,800 receivers through 7 Davis? So you know. 764 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,760 But that's that to me only makes receiver more important in round 765 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,960 one. Yes, yes. 766 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,920 You know that is that is the answer. 767 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,560 The the answer is literally that the most important players in 768 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,320 the entire pool are the top 8 wide receivers in the pool. 769 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,560 And frankly, I expect one of the best advanced rate structures 770 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,680 for the entire year to be wide receiver in the first round, 771 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,240 three straight running backs and then not picking a wide receiver 772 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:47,080 again until 5 or 6. When you when you realize that 773 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,640 Travis Hunter's gonna average 27 points per game in the playoffs, 774 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,760 then your wide receivers, you know you're just getting that in 775 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,480 round I'm. I'm interstellar window yelling 776 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,000 at you right now, but like in real time, like without the time 777 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,880 delay, like I'm like you're. Actually, you guys are. 778 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,520 Just yelling at me. Like I thought, like I 779 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,680 understand why YouTube commenters like and and Twitter 780 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,440 commenters hate me for this. Like I I expect that, but like I 781 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,760 thought you guys had like a little bit of like gumption in 782 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,520 your life and a little bit of like you're you were sadly, you 783 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,560 were sad. I mean, one of the most elite 784 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,720 talents to ever enter the NFL coming into this incredible, 785 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,960 terrible environment, Like, come on, have a little fun in your 786 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,120 life. I'm I'm taking TET man, if I'm 787 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,440 going to take receiver Breeze Hall there, give me TET. 788 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,960 Ted McMillan was the 8th overall pick and is like also in an 789 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,640 awesome situation for for just getting immediate, immediate 790 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,480 target volume and can like easily spike down the stretch. 791 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,720 Like I think I mean Hunter, OK, well, I mean, I don't see how 792 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:53,040 because you've got like 35%, this is a three player turn for 793 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,400 you. Yeah, yeah. 794 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,160 That's. A little. 795 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,800 Literally, that's correct. Yeah, by the way, let's not let 796 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,680 it be forgotten how Pat earlier, just a minute ago, used his 797 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,320 mocking voice on himself in the Christian Kirk example. 798 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,640 Yeah, yeah, the mock. I'm not safe from the mocking 799 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,280 voice. Past you gotta use it on 800 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,640 yourself. Yeah, past me has has made some 801 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,240 mistakes, you know. I just, I just think it's so 802 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:17,760 obvious how. Travis Hunter. 803 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,680 Fails that I don't want to have more than like It's also very 804 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,520 obvious how he. Succeeds like how he succeeds is 805 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,880 he just shows up and he's Odell Beckham junior and. 806 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,760 Then yeah, I think it's, I actually think it's less 807 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,120 obvious. I I think it's it's pretty like 808 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,920 self-evident. How less obvious it is is that 809 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:39,360 he's no ability to ascend to the top target the a la CD Lamb, a 810 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,480 la Justin Jefferson. I you know what you know what a 811 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,320 good comp for his rookie year. I think it's actually. 812 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,400 Pretty easy to see him ascending to the top target like he he 813 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,840 could just be one of the best talents in the National Football 814 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,920 League from the start. He was the second overall pick 815 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,160 with team traded a first round pick for he. 816 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,080 He was one of. The best players, he's not 817 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,240 better than BTJ. He's just. 818 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,560 Not he could have a he could have a much higher targets per 819 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,360 route run in part 'cause he's not going to run all the. 820 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,080 Routes, I was going to say when you it's a lot of As. 821 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,480 Marvel as Marvel, but like, why isn't he going? 822 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,040 Why isn't he going to run all the routes? 823 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,280 Like if he just shows up. He's going to play cornerback, 824 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,600 too. He's going to play cornerback. 825 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,920 She's also going to play cornerback. 826 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,280 That's going to last for as long as it's makes sense. 827 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,920 No, he's going to play cornerback too, like. 828 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,240 In corner. The the trade up is why he's 829 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,520 going to play cornerback like that. 830 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,600 You don't trade up like you know he's he's was not nearly as good 831 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,280 of a prospect as like Malik Neighbors or Marvin Harris. 832 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,000 We had this discussion like in like January and I, I just 833 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,720 disagree. I I think he is as good of a 834 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:41,680 prospect as these guys. Thomas wasn't. 835 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,080 So what? What would be the like 836 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,480 analytically? There's like no case that he's 837 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,160 as good as those. Yeah, I mean, analytically 838 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,320 there's I think his I think his stats analytically are very 839 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,920 underrated by the context of the offense that he was in. 840 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,040 How many four wide receiver sets they ran, how many like gimmicky 841 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,320 screens. He's just standing there 842 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,720 watching dudes. But like, so I, I don't like 843 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,080 really care that I I think it's just in terms of the draft 844 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,120 capital that he received. Draft company was always going 845 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,840 to receive the film on him. That I think is pretty 846 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,760 unbelievable how he moves as an athlete, what he was able to 847 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,200 accomplish. And then just like embrace a 848 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,520 little bit of the fact that this is like an incredibly unique 849 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,480 Unicorn who played both sides of the ball, was one of the best 850 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,560 players in college football on both sides of the ball. 851 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,160 And just kind of like if you just zoom out and think about 852 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,680 like what kind of dude is humanly capable of achieving 853 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,840 these things? And do I want to be in the side 854 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,120 betting on this Unicorn or against this Unicorn? 855 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,960 And I just like will always want to be on the side of betting on 856 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,920 the built different hall. Of fame members Jacob I'll I'll 857 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,320 tell you this if I had not been beaten down into a state of 858 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,960 submission last year I'd totally be with you but that was the 859 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,640 experience I had so I can't do it but you're you're clearly 860 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,240 your position is moral and just and if I was taking the 861 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:02,320 philosophically correct position towards this activity I would be 862 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,800 with you but I am a coward and we. 863 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,320 You're spooked. Well look, I mean I like I 864 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,360 believe Hunter is my highest owned or if not very very close 865 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,440 to my highest owned guy in the big board. 866 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,160 There's like this argument was one I was making when he was in 867 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,920 the 6th and 7th. I think when he comes up to the 868 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:26,680 3-4 turn, you do have to like I am embracing him as a Unicorn, 869 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,440 but that comes with he's going to play cornerback like they 870 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,800 they traded up to #2 because he's going to play both sides of 871 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,480 the ball. And so when I'm looking at his 872 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:41,640 rookie season production, is it a worthwhile mega stand at the 873 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,640 3-4 turn? You know, to be on a guy who I 874 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,160 would say is pretty unlikely to like be running 90% of the 875 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,360 routes at any point this season, you know, in some ways it limits 876 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,080 the ceiling a little bit. It's not that he like can't be a 877 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,640 better target earner than Thomas, but like they don't need 878 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,080 him to be the clear cut number one in the offense. 879 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,080 They can get. They can get something out of 880 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,640 him by playing him less on offense, which it just like 881 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,280 never happens for other receivers. 882 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,040 Like the fact that they can limit him on offense and get 883 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,160 more out of him as a player. It's just it's not ideal. 884 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,400 And at some point I want to like. 885 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,040 I also just, I, I just want to be clear, I have 17% of Travis 886 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,240 Hunter, so it's not like I think he's a a bad pick, but obviously 887 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,520 part of that is self selecting because Worthy is right there. 888 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,400 Guys, I mean, all, all the takes here are correct. 889 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:33,280 We just don't know what they're going to do. 890 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,040 We just don't. We have to find out what they're 891 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,720 going to. Do we just we just don't know. 892 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,000 We just don't know what they're. Going to do the last thing about 893 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,560 the hunter thing is that I just think that people consistently 894 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,520 discount how correlated it is, what his route rate will be and 895 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,680 how good he is like if he is not that exceptional, then I agree 896 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,880 with what you're saying about the route rate. 897 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,720 If he comes out in Week 1 and has seven catches for 110 yards 898 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,200 and two touchdowns, I don't think that they're going to be 899 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,320 like, well, let's keep his route rate down like they're. 900 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,960 Going down with you there and this is? 901 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,680 This is a good point. This is just like if he is one 902 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,000 of the 10 best wide receivers in the NFL then he's going to run a 903 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,360 fuck ton of routes and so I'm just betting that he is. 904 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,600 Right. But there's yeah. 905 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,600 And I don't like, it's sort of like the how right do you have 906 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,080 to be to win the bet thing? And it's like I just when I when 907 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,720 he starts to come up and it's like him versus Ted McMillan. 908 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,680 I don't do I need Ted McMillan to be one of the 10 best wide 909 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,000 receivers in the NFL to win the bet? 910 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,160 Like I don't I I'm going to be 20th any wide receiver. 911 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,520 To be one of the 10 best wide receivers to win a bat because 912 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,880 like otherwise, it's. Just no Ted. 913 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:40,440 Ted can running backs Ted can Kelvin Benjamin his way to 13.2 914 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,360 points per game in the back half of the season. 915 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,400 Yeah, I I'm talking about is he going to be drafted like 10th in 916 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,680 a, in a, you know, he's the wide receiver 10 where we blow up the 917 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,040 NFL and everyone re drafts. That's different than can he 918 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,200 score like the wide, like the 10th best wide receiver in the 919 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,600 NFL, right, Because, because guys who were like the 30th, 920 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,480 40th best receiver in the right situation can score like that. 921 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,160 So that's where I mean like, do I need Ted to be this incredible 922 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,160 talent or is the situation good enough? 923 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,000 And he's, you know, he's doing it down the stretch and he's 924 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,760 good. It's not that he's bad, but he's 925 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,880 just not like a true superstar. And I can still win. 926 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,640 I I think I can at this price. So you know it, it's about the 927 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,360 price for me. I'm at 14% hunter as well. 928 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,120 So this isn't a guy I'm like fading. 929 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,760 It's just the mega stand that I'm that I'm. 930 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,280 I mean, I probably. Won't actually finish. 931 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,520 At 35, I'm guessing I'll end up somewhere between 25 to 30 is 932 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,240 probably where I'm going to be. But I mean, well, that's if he 933 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:41,600 stays at the current price. I actually think he will move 934 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,880 down. I don't, I don't really worry 935 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,560 about stuff like that because then I just get to draft him in 936 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,440 in different. Comments. 937 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,040 You have different combos. So I do think he probably will 938 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,000 will move down and then my exposure might get even higher. 939 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,280 But I I take a lot of tete as as well. 940 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,480 I'm I think I'm well, I'm actually only 9% TAT, but I'll 941 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,480 probably decline my. 2 rookie numbers. 942 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,000 A little bit exclusively to get tat a little bit higher. 943 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,920 I, I don't know, I think that the Yeah, see. 944 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,800 I'm 33 tat that's that's my guy. OK. 945 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:16,080 Yeah, then. All right. 946 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,160 Well, then we're just going to end up doing basically the same 947 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,480 thing. In One of Us is going to have a 948 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,400 great year. I mean, it sounds like we, it 949 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,680 sounds like we might both have. I mean, it sounds like we're. 950 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,080 Both gonna be brief, says a Goodyear. 951 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,760 We're having a Goodyear. Yeah, we're arguing about this. 952 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,200 It sounds like our our plan at the 3-4 turn is not that 953 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,960 different. It's so such a rookie wide 954 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,960 receiver brief a lot of 1 rookie wide receiver and a little less 955 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,320 of the other rookie wide. Receiver arguing about 6% 956 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,120 differences is kind of a core tenet of this show sounds like. 957 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,880 It's the. Same plan with. 958 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:43,640 One. Yeah, it is. 959 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,440 I'm trying, I'm trying to get us back. 960 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,280 They they will be on the same field Week 1. 961 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,400 That'll be fun. I mean, actually, probably 962 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,080 literally if McMillan is going against Hunter and there's that 963 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,400 contested ball, we'll have a lot of takes in the opener. 964 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,920 Carolina at Jacksonville quickly. 965 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,000 Any of the other receivers here to win? 966 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,480 This bat, she shuts down tat and then he goes and scores up 967 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,040 right. Any of the other receivers on 968 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,840 the risers worth a quick mention here? 969 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,760 Jameson Williams? George Pickens? 970 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,480 Ricky Pearsall? Josh Downs? 971 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,320 I keep hearing the same thing on Downs, which I like. 972 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,560 I'm in on him just because he's good and the price is pretty 973 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,920 cheap. So happy to draft Downs. 974 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,200 Downs is a great pick. I I still think downs is like at 975 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,520 least 10 picks undervalued, maybe more like 15. 3036% Josh 976 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:38,280 Downs. Yeah, he's, he's Josh Downs is 977 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,240 just suffering from like, we can't, we can't perfectly 978 00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:45,720 picture how it's going to happen, you know, And that's 979 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:47,800 fine. We don't need to know the exact 980 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,800 details of how Josh Downs score points this year. 981 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,000 He's good. He's good. 982 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:52,720 I do have to just concede to Davis. 983 00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:55,680 I mean, I I think that you're you're wrong and he won't be a 984 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,120 good pick at this price. But clearly your argument on 985 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,400 Jameson Williams was incredibly convincing because this is 2 986 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,200 straight weeks of him on the riders list. 987 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,760 So I mean, Jameson Williams, actually. 988 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,760 Like I'm pretty scared of every decision I'm making this year, 989 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,720 like all I see. Is I'm aware. 990 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,000 I just like how could Jameson Williams possibly let me down 991 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,200 other than like like doing a nine leg FanDuel parlay from. 992 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:21,320 The You mean the guy with a career has 90 targets? 993 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,080 Yeah, I don't see how that goes badly in. 994 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,960 Room. Nah, he'll be fine. 995 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,880 I I just like, I feel, I don't know man, I just feel cool, calm 996 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,480 and collected when I click the button on. 997 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,280 Jameson. The thing with the Jameson 998 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,200 Williams, it reminds me. Of Travis Hunter, who's all 999 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,160 right? It reminds me of the DJ Moore 1000 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,960 debate from a couple years ago where like DJ Moore and I was on 1001 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,680 the pro DJ Moore side, but it's like DJ Moore can't pay off this 1002 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,440 ADP. And you know, Leone was right. 1003 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,840 Like he wasn't able to pay it off except he had a 50 burger 1004 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,600 and had another couple awesome games. 1005 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,800 So he like also easily like he was a terrible season long guy 1006 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,640 who got there like huge and was actually like a pretty solid 1007 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,640 basketball pick. So it reminds me a little bit of 1008 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,800 that. It reminds me a little bit of 1009 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,800 Gabe Davis. The year that Gabe Davis was, Oh 1010 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,840 my God, putting. Gabe Davis in James No, No. 1011 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,080 You know what? Dave Davis spiked a few times 1012 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,880 that that year and the rest of the round was such a disaster. 1013 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,360 He was an OK pick. Touchdown merchant 4th round 1014 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,360 pick? Absolutely, absolutely not. 1015 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,800 Yeah, Davis, none of this sounds like Jameson Williams to me. 1016 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,160 No, this is the first round pick dude. 1017 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,480 This is a guy we left for dead. Like you know how many? 1018 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,680 Times What was the rule about when you say someone's a first 1019 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,280 round pick in their fourth year? They're turbo dog shit. 1020 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,840 No, no, it this. It's when a guy changes themes. 1021 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,320 It's the Kayer Elam rule. It's when it's it's Kayer Elam 1022 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,360 former. Jehan Dodson was the first round 1023 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,320 pick. Should we draft him? 1024 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,520 John Dodson has never been for one second what Jameson Williams 1025 00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,000 has been on the football field. These these these guys are these 1026 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,440 guys are are not comparable players. 1027 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,360 And anyway, not not draft capital. 1028 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,480 What's your Kadaris tone position young joker? 1029 00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:13,720 Just has to mature. Treyland Burks is just dying to 1030 00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:14,880 break out. Treyland Burks. 1031 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,760 You guys, I just I refuse to allow actually, if he's 1032 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,960 efficient, he'll get the ball more to be a pro ETN thing and 1033 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,600 then for Jacob on the other side of his mouth to say it's 1034 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,720 actually bad that Jameson. Was just so. 1035 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,320 Efficient. We're in a ETN. 1036 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,000 Hunter I don't I literally don't even know that my brain like 1037 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:31,600 I'm. Stroking. 1038 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,800 Out right now doing this argument. 1039 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,880 Hunter. Hunter Yeah, I will. 1040 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,080 Do you know what I'll do this I'll I will offer you a wager 1041 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,600 right now. Jacob 50 American dollars. 1042 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,000 Jameson Williams I will offer, I will offer you either, you can 1043 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,800 either have points per game or or total points or I will even 1044 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,360 offer you weeks 1516 and 17 total points. 1045 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,400 You can have any of those 3 terms. 1046 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,240 Yeah, well, I will go with points per game because I think 1047 00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:03,880 that reduces my variance the most, but I'm quite. 1048 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,480 Sure. Minimum. 1049 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,240 Minimum 10 games. Minimum 10 games sounds true. 1050 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,200 Booked. Put it, put it on the board. 1051 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,760 Minimum 10 games of playing offense or just playing 1052 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,320 football. That might be important. 1053 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,120 If he's, if he's, if he's active in in coverage, it does. 1054 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:19,840 It does. You might want a minimum route 1055 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,280 rate. You might want to throw that in 1056 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,760 there. No, we're good. 1057 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,160 We're good. Next slide is a look at the 1058 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,960 backup running backs who are highlighted here, Jalen Wright, 1059 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,200 Will Shipley and Justice Hill all on the risers list. 1060 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,160 Shipley is a Pat Kerain Last Call product from maybe the very 1061 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,720 first week of our contest at the end of the show each week and 1062 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:48,720 really nothing has changed for the worst there. 1063 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,320 No, nothing. No, he's he's a straight backup. 1064 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,040 Yeah, these are all fine picks. Jalen Wright, I think we are. 1065 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,080 I think we're, we're sleeping on, on Mr. Wright. 1066 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,960 The only way we're not sleeping on him is if you're a big 1067 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,280 Alexander Madison guy. I don't think you have to be a 1068 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,360 big Alexander Madison guy. You you could the answer can be 1069 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,560 Alexander Madison. And I don't know if there's 1070 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,160 certain guys every year where I'm like, well, there's no way 1071 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,960 we. Created an. 1072 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,080 Egg. We're we're saying, we're saying 1073 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,640 in this in this analogy, Raheem Mostert is Jason Giambi and and 1074 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,720 some portion of Jalen Wright, Ollie Gordon and Alexander 1075 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:31,120 Madison are are recreating. The only problem is he's 1076 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,960 Alexander Madison. So Wright has a couple things. 1077 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,800 First, he could just be Mostert, right? 1078 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,960 It's definitely possible. Two, he could be the he could be 1079 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,440 the handcuff running back to a 186 LB player who has been 1080 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,360 injured every single year of his career, right? 1081 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,920 And then three, the whole market is just a little bit down on the 1082 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,360 Dolphins based on their offensive line to like 1083 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,560 weirdness. And I think we're kind of all 1084 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,440 other than Tyreke, we're all kind of saying we expect 1085 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,520 positive progression. Like the Dolphins are the 9th 1086 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,560 best offense in the NFL. Jalen Wright is like a giga mega 1087 00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:16,440 smash like potential potential best pick on the board actually. 1088 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,520 So my thing with Wright is that like that, that's where I, you 1089 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,800 kind of lose me a bit because he wasn't good last year. 1090 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,440 He wasn't. He didn't have a Yeah, so. 1091 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,880 H chain was bad too. H chain was bad too. 1092 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,960 Efficiency. Wise, yeah, but like HN was 1093 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,480 getting all the work right. So it's like, you know, that 1094 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,120 tells you something about the talent differential that the 1095 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,480 team thinks they have there. He wasn't was he a third round 1096 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,600 pick? It's not like he has a ton of 1097 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,120 draft capital behind him. So he was. 1098 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,880 A. 4th. But they traded a 3rd, 4th a 1099 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,720 future year to draft him in the 4th. 1100 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,280 OK, so day three guys. The Woody Marks trade, 1101 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,720 basically. Right. 1102 00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:01,360 Yeah, bad as a rookie, more of an early down guy than a, you 1103 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,320 know, someone who can work in as a receiver and then they draft 1104 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,200 like another early down hammer type in Ollie Gordon. 1105 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,880 They've got Madison. Like I was taking some Jalen 1106 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,240 Wright earlier, but like the check in I have is like, is this 1107 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:19,160 the RB2? Because if it's not, what am I 1108 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,400 doing? Like, I don't think this guy's 1109 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,720 good and and he really doesn't have much of A Moat to to a guy 1110 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,040 like Alexander Madison. Like Alexander Madison could 1111 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,080 easily be the running back 2 here. 1112 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,760 We've seen Madison be trusted by by coaching Staffs like 1113 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,800 repeatedly, even though he's not good. 1114 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,000 So that's that's where I we ended up. 1115 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,520 He's we're behind on him now, but it's just because I'm like, 1116 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,560 I mean, I need the info. I think this is one of those 1117 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,040 guys I need the info on. Is he the running back too? 1118 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,560 Yeah. My concern too is that I think, 1119 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,520 I think that he is probably the team's preference to be the RV 2 1120 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,560 because he's the one that they invested the most in and and 1121 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,680 obviously they liked him at least at some point in time. 1122 00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:07,000 But we've seen spots like this where this type of player might 1123 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,040 start camp as the RB2, might even start the season as the 1124 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,720 RB2, but does not finish the year as the RB2. 1125 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,800 Like I remember the year that like Eno Benjamin was, was 1126 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,960 finally the RB2. And then we were right. 1127 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,960 And then he had like one really good week. 1128 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,120 And then eventually they were like, actually no, like he's no. 1129 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,560 I think off the field stuff with him though. 1130 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,800 He was good enough. I remember there was another 1131 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,080 example of like Chris Evans was, was the RB2. 1132 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,360 He was getting really early reports. 1133 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,160 He was clearly the RB2 and then like I think he had like AI 1134 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,280 don't. Think we ever even have? 1135 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,040 It's really in the offseason. And then it was like he, Ron 1136 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,080 took over the spot and, and I don't know, I, I just get unless 1137 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,840 I see something very concrete. Like right now all we have is 1138 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,960 the coach speak where they said his name 1st and someone in the 1139 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,680 chat already said this but like they asked him a question about 1140 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,960 Jalen Wright and then he and then he his answer to the 1141 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,800 question specifically about Jalen Wright said Jalen's name 1142 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,880 1st and then named all of the other running backs. 1143 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,000 It. Was not as bullish as as I think 1144 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,400 people think that it was. It was like, yeah, it was like, 1145 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,240 what do you think? I forgot what the question was, 1146 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,920 but it's basically what's in store for Jalen, right this 1147 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,120 year. And they were like, yeah, Jalen 1148 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,040 and Devon are gonna. Have what's in store is also the 1149 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:14,800 other. Guys. 1150 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,840 Yeah, yeah. That's actually, that's a really 1151 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,440 keen observation because we've gotten to a point where we're, 1152 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,360 you know, coach speak, index, everything we're we're listening 1153 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,200 to, we're reading the quotes. But it is important to also 1154 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,720 sometimes know the question because without knowing the 1155 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,880 question, it's not necessarily that indicative. 1156 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,720 The answer is not necessarily indicative of anything. 1157 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,400 But that might be an example where it is right. 1158 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,200 I I can never click on Justice Hill because I like Keaton 1159 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,640 Mitchell too much. I I like Justice Hill because he 1160 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,800 serves a specific purpose that I often need in my running back 1161 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,360 rooms, which is like. Jacob. 1162 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,200 Jacob needs to. Know what his role is going to 1163 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,920 be because like I yeah, because like I take a lot of like the DJ 1164 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,800 Giddens, I take like obviously by shall Tooting on every single 1165 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,080 team. I take a lot of Trevion 1166 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,560 Henderson. So it's like it's nice for me to 1167 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,440 have like one guy at the very end of my draft who I know has 1168 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,000 like a reasonable chance of getting the 11 points starting 1169 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,920 in in week 1. And I feel like his role is is 1170 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,920 very secure, but he's a specific use case. 1171 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,680 There's teams where I don't think he makes any sense on. 1172 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,080 Yeah, I think he strikes in as more of like a redraft type of 1173 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,600 guy. We're like I for the exact use 1174 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,120 case you said. We're like, you're just like 1175 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,520 plugging him in in week 1 and then you're like, oh God, like 1176 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,360 I, I got to figure this out soon. 1177 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:42,280 You're going to be scraping waiver wires and stuff to to 1178 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,280 find running backs. But given the pricing on running 1179 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,240 backs earlier that we talked about, like I'm tending to build 1180 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,520 teams that are like I'm getting my chaperones a little earlier. 1181 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,760 Basically, I think there's, there's a number of ways to play 1182 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,880 that like you can, you can do it with, you know, mixins and the 1183 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:04,360 breezes and, and those guys. So I think, you know, like I'm 1184 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,800 not, I've never really been a mixing guy, but it's the price 1185 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,560 is pretty good for, you know, trying to do advance rate stuff. 1186 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,520 But then you also have like you got Chuba, you got Kenneth 1187 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,720 Walker, you know, in into the 6th, into the 7th into the 8th. 1188 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,640 You can, you can build, you know, those chaperone type of 1189 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,520 plays out. So I haven't really been on 1190 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,160 hill, but. I probably will be in redraft. 1191 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,920 Let's move on to Fallers. Sorry to lose you there for a 1192 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:35,200 minute. Brock Bowers on top of this list 1193 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,080 with a still small change, but it's of course early draft 1194 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,360 capital. Same with Nicole Collins and 1195 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,040 Brian Thomas. At first I thought maybe that 1196 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,440 was Mike Leone and Justin Herzig, but I'm told it's Brock 1197 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,800 Bowers. And no, that's embarrassed. 1198 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,040 Yeah. Hi, Mike. 1199 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,720 This is I, I call this list the we're all trying to find the guy 1200 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,080 who did this. And it's Michael Leone going, 1201 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,800 you know, in the hot dog suit. He's like, why does no one like 1202 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,120 rookies? Why does no one like players who 1203 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,800 were 23 years old? And I mean, this is it's, it's 1204 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,000 we all, we all knew what was going to happen, right? 1205 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,560 I mean, the, the contest opens, everyone's like, dude, if I 1206 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,720 don't get Amari and Hampton right now, I'm going to die. 1207 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,800 And then by May 15th, you're like, I don't know, man. 1208 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,920 Naji Harris, dude, they're paying him a lot of money. 1209 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,240 Harbaugh You know, I mean, it's just, it's at like all of these 1210 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,560 guys. It's absolutely classic. 1211 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,160 Yeah, Hunter, let's let's see how that goes for you guys. 1212 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,840 Brian Thomas, Caleb Williams, Omerion Hampton, Devin Neil, 1213 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,200 Dylan Sampson and Luther Burden. Speaking of rookies that fills 1214 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,280 out the list. Is there anything significant? 1215 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,960 Well, you know, maybe Davis just said it all. 1216 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,800 Is there anything significant to any of those changes between 1217 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,360 like pick 11 and 16? Like Collins and Thomas are 1218 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,720 following specifically because McCaffrey is rising. 1219 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,800 Those are are that's a direct consequence of the McCaffrey 1220 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,920 rise. I don't think that really says 1221 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,520 anything about Collins or Thomas. 1222 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:02,400 Nothing Burden got injured and is also rookie. 1223 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:07,120 So that's that's a double fade. Hunter ran routes people didn't 1224 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,680 like on Twitter and he's also a sloppy player and all of the 1225 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,400 sloppy players are are falling slightly right now, which I 1226 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,200 think is also what's affecting Brock Bowers is like you, you 1227 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,440 get the slappies are a little bit more diluted in the pool and 1228 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,800 now you get the people that are like a tight end the 1-2 turn. 1229 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,040 Oh heavens. And so it's nice because 1230 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,960 initially, like through, I mean just full, it wouldn't matter if 1231 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,600 Brock Bowers ADP was the one-on-one. 1232 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,760 There's just not like any world in which I was ever going to 1233 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:42,160 have less than 10% Brock Bowers. But when it opened, it was very 1234 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,480 difficult to like be like if I want to have a massively 1235 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,960 overexposed Bowers position, like do I have to take him out 1236 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,040 of Brian Thomas on occasion? Do I have? 1237 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,440 To take him out, I was doing that. 1238 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:56,000 Now and I and I was doing it and I don't regret it, but now it's 1239 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,880 great. I can just take him like I don't 1240 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,720 have to reach for him. I have never once felt remotely 1241 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,640 conflicted about taking him ahead of like A.J. 1242 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,760 Brown or LAD or HN. So if that's all I have to do to 1243 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,920 get 1520% like rock, rock on. I think Brock Bowers is 1244 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,920 legitimately just Aman Ross St. Brown with the tight end 1245 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,680 designation, so I don't really understand why he's going 1246 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,440 significantly behind him. But. 1247 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,400 Works for how many? How many players do you think 1248 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,040 had more receptions than Brock Bowers last year? 1249 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:29,000 One probably like 2. Two Jamar Chase and Amin Ross 1250 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:29,520 St. Brown. 1251 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,120 Did you know that you had more receiving yards season? 1252 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,240 Sorry. Oh no, you play fun facts first 1253 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,480 then. I'll no you had more receiving 1254 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,480 yards than Lad Mcconkey. So you want to talk about like 1255 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,880 rookie like And who had a better situation Lad Mcconkey with 0 1256 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,080 target competition in Justin Herbert or Brock Bowers who had 1257 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,520 to play with Desmond Ritter in week 15? 1258 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,160 Well, Bowers didn't really have target competition either. 1259 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,360 Bowers had Jacoby Myers. It's better than enough. 1260 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,920 Enough already. Every. 1261 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,680 It's like I can't go anywhere without people. 1262 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,360 Dude, Jacoby Myers is a good targeter. 1263 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,000 Like I I know that you don't want to believe Myers. 1264 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,760 I know you don't want to acknowledge reality because he 1265 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,800 runs too slow for you, but like. He enough 20. 4%. 1266 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:13,520 Of Kobe Myers, he goes Jacoby Myers is is is like you just 1267 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,280 miss Shuster's transition period, you know, between being. 1268 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,960 Yeah, that's what the Patriots thought, and look what happened 1269 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,800 to them. No, Jacoby Myers, Jacoby Myers 1270 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,880 can play. He's he's been good like every 1271 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,480 single season he's been in the league. 1272 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,600 He had he's not amazing, but like for a rookie tight end or a 1273 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,720 rookie in general, he's he's I'm comparing him to Quintin 1274 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,520 Johnston, man, like I'm comparing him to Josh Palmer. 1275 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:41,480 Like this dude is clearly better than what Vlad Mcconkey had to 1276 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,040 compete with for targets. And then at the same time he's 1277 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,960 getting he's getting targeted by Aidan O'Connell at best. 1278 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,680 Gardner Minshew. It has been read or like it was 1279 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,920 and and and it's in a Luke Getzi offense and you. 1280 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,960 Don't even, you don't even have to care if he's good. 1281 01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,400 It's 129 targets. Last year the point was 1282 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,560 competition and it was 129 targets. 1283 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:08,880 Myers, whether he's good or not. Yeah, so it's it's crazy. 1284 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,560 Like what Bowers did last year is actually crazy. 1285 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:17,200 And now the situation he gets Gino Smith like one of the best 1286 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,440 quarterbacks for a guy who gets targets underneath and you know, 1287 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,640 in the in shallow like yak, like this dude just fed JSN. 1288 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,120 It's the JSN bet with tight end eligibility. 1289 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,400 He's in a Chip Kelly offense. We know they're going to run a 1290 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,480 ton of plays. Like they it's it's Pete Carroll 1291 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,800 who's like a program builder like this stuff. 1292 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,960 It's all moving in the right direction for this guy. 1293 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,960 And we're like, I don't know, elite tight end hasn't worked 1294 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,400 the last couple years, so not going to take him. 1295 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,080 OK. Like I I truly like this is one 1296 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,480 of the best picks we've ever had access to. 1297 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,160 Like this dude is an insane pick right now. 1298 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,960 Second year player coming off the best rookie season of all 1299 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:05,680 time at his position and everything in the offseason 1300 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,160 upgraded him and he's falling to the middle of the second round. 1301 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,480 Like holy shit. It it is like I haven't heard a 1302 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,160 single anti Bowers argument that makes any sense to me 1303 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,800 whatsoever. I I would love to hear one that 1304 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,120 like makes even the slightest shred of rationality for me. 1305 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,520 But it is so strange. Like he had his rookie season 1306 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:35,920 last year. 153 targets, 112 receptions, 1194 five 1307 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,160 touchdowns. And again with the worst 1308 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,960 quarterback situation in the NFL and a complete joke offensive 1309 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:47,680 coordinator like Pooka, Takua's rookie season had six more 1310 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:53,200 targets, 7 fewer receptions, did about 280 more yards and one 1311 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,800 more touchdown. And that was one of the best 1312 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,560 rookie wide receiver seasons of all time. 1313 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:02,560 They play functionally the same position, like Bowers is an FY 1314 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,080 receiver who has tight end eligibility. 1315 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,840 Like him, Puka Aman, Rah St. Brown, Godwin, like these guys 1316 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,960 all basically play the same position in an offense. 1317 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,160 He has more receptions in his rookie season than A.J. 1318 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,280 Brown has ever had in any season of his career. 1319 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,560 If you're looking at guys that go like right next to each other 1320 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,000 and it's like, OK, do you think that potentially a little bit 1321 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,680 more yards, perception efficiency and touchdowns is 1322 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,600 possible going from Aiden O'Connell and Minshew and Ritter 1323 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,320 to Gino and Luke gets see to Chip Kelly? 1324 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,600 It's like seems like the answer is like to me, obviously yes. 1325 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,760 Like, yes, he can get a little bit more yards per reception, a 1326 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,560 little bit more touchdowns. So it's it's absolutely stunning 1327 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,200 to me. And I also find like anytime 1328 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,320 it's both the receivers, Oh, Brian Thomas going into your two 1329 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,000 neighbors going into your two lad going into your two, Marvin 1330 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,840 Harrison going into your two. We're always projecting your two 1331 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,000 growth for for young players as we should. 1332 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,920 But for whatever reason, tight end, it's like, I don't know, 1333 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,040 man, like he, if he does what he did last year, it's not going to 1334 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,920 pay off. It's like, well, one, I'm not 1335 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,280 actually that sure about that. And two, like, why is it he's 1336 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,360 the only player that has no ability to progress? 1337 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,440 It's a talent going into year 2. Like I, I just, it's, it's wild 1338 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,560 to me. People are. 1339 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:19,720 Saying any of these things. Yeah, that's why he's falling. 1340 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,920 He's on the Fallers list. It's hardly a change in the 1341 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,240 McCaffrey point. This is a pretty big change 1342 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,520 actually that like when you're when you're talking about him 1343 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,680 versus Nico and Brian Thomas to now where you're talking about 1344 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:35,120 him versus A.J. Brown, like I think that's 1345 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:41,000 that's a pretty big difference. And just like clear cut, like 1346 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:46,160 give me Bowers over Brown London Mcconkey like this. 1347 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,160 That's not close. That's not. 1348 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,160 Close. Did someone in the chat point 1349 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,240 out that it's the blue, it's the tight end, that's the whole 1350 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,479 thing? I mean, I, I appreciate you guys 1351 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,640 are hearing these sort of quote criticisms of Bowers. 1352 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,680 But the comment section is like full of like, yeah, can we hear 1353 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,319 the excuses when Bowers has 180 points this year? 1354 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,040 Yeah, 0% Bowers. Good luck. 1355 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,160 It's gonna be wild when Gino turns Jacoby into his JSN 1356 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:13,880 instead. Like all this is is just like 1357 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:19,240 powers the entire comments. Yeah, it's it's LaPorte. 1358 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,520 I think LaPorte. Let's talk LaPorte quickly 1359 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,800 because they think that's for like it is funny that probably 1360 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,200 yes. The answer is people are snake 1361 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,960 bitten by LaPorte. LaPorte and pits have scared 1362 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,240 people. I mean, I would compare it more 1363 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:36,000 to closer to pits where, you know, he had a really good 1364 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,319 rookie season. They did draft Drake London 1365 01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:41,720 though. You know where he's he's got 1366 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,279 Jack Besh coming in, but there is a rookie receiver coming in. 1367 01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:46,640 He's coming off the really good rookie season. 1368 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,840 So you know there's a new. White wide receiver, tight end, 1369 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,720 hybrid in town, brother. There's a new, there's a new F 1370 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,320 in town. So I suppose, you know, it's 1371 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,240 it's definitely possible that Bowers is not as good as I'm 1372 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:04,400 thinking, but I'm getting like, we're trying to draft guys who 1373 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,840 can win this season, who can, who can be like true league 1374 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:13,480 winners. And like, yes, Pitts didn't work 1375 01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:16,640 out in his second season, but Pitts went above this, I'm 1376 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,200 pretty sure, didn't he? Am I? 1377 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:19,560 Am I crazy? I don't remember. 1378 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,760 No, he didn't. He went in a few. 1379 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,080 Three turn. But he also played a very 1380 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,440 different position than Bowers. He's also like I love. 1381 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,960 I obviously took too much pits that year but like his rookie 1382 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,000 season was nothing compared to Brock Bowers rookie season. 1383 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,360 Like it was 1000 yards. It was 1000 yards. 1384 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,840 I don't think he scored a. 1000 yards, a touchdown in London 1385 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,960 against The Jets. He was covered by a defensive 1386 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,640 lineman. And he probably had like what, 1387 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,320 60 receptions, 65 receptions? Like it wasn't maybe close to 1388 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,200 the amount of volume that. Bowers earned was he 2021? 1389 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,240 I'll pull it up right now. Like I'm guessing he was like 64 1390 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,400 receptions or something. He had 68 jammed dude, 68 1391 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,760 receptions. So he had like half the 1392 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,000 receptions for 1026 yards in a touchdown. 1393 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,320 And and the Bowers like he. Still pretty good rookie 1394 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,320 deployment. Pretty good. 1395 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:03,800 We're looking at the from a deployment perspective, the only 1396 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,280 elite tight end who really has similar deployment is is Travis 1397 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:07,960 Kelsey. He's the one that's closest in 1398 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,520 terms of the role he plays in an offense. 1399 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,320 Like Pitts was like a weird mix of playing Y tight end and X 1400 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,360 wide receiver. Laporta, you know, comes off the 1401 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,160 line sometimes, but Brown is really that F wide receiver like 1402 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,760 St. Brown and and Laporta plays a 1403 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,000 little bit more in line like. It's, well, the porta. 1404 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:28,080 The Porta is the one, Laporta's the one where like at the time, 1405 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,720 I didn't want to fade Laporta, but I did in parks. 1406 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,160 I was drafting Kelsey and, you know, drafting other elite tight 1407 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,760 ends, but. I did last year too. 1408 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,800 I faded LaPorte. I thought Laporta was overpriced 1409 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,080 because he like the archetype of the elite tight end is that he's 1410 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,960 the number one wide receiver on his team with tight end 1411 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,640 eligibility. Like that's the guys who have 1412 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,440 have been truly dominant and Laporta wasn't that and isn't 1413 01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:59,000 that, but Bowers is like that's Bowers was immediately the 1414 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,280 number one wide receiver on his team ahead of, you know, a 1415 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,640 professional wide receiver, maybe not a great wide receiver, 1416 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,600 but a professional wide receiver in Jacoby Myers. 1417 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,640 And now he enters year 2. So you get the year 2 upside. 1418 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,520 We could easily be taking Bowers in the top five picks next year. 1419 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,640 Like it it could seem like a no brainer. 1420 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,160 So the idea that there's no. Room to run from here he is top 1421 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,280 five. Yes there is. 1422 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,320 Yes, there is. On FSPC he is top five almost 1423 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,240 always. Yeah, well, he should be the 1424 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,480 one-on-one on FSPC. He should be the one-on-one 1425 01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:35,120 undisputed like I every if we're doing the ship chasing draft 1426 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,880 this summer, like any time that we have the opportunity to 1427 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,440 select Brock Bowers, I'm a vote for Brock Bowers. 1428 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,840 Bowers and you're not going to get, you're not going to get any 1429 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,520 argument for me, me and me and you are both going to be playing 1430 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,960 the guitar on the front of. I was gonna say if if if Hunter, 1431 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:54,400 if Hunter is the is the is the the guitar guy? 1432 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,920 I mean what is Bowers? Is Bowers is above Hunter on the 1433 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,680 slappy list? I mean I have I tweeted out my 1434 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,320 dream four pick sequence that I do in like 25% of my drafts, 1435 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,120 which is just neighbors Bowers Briefs Hunter, which is just 1436 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,680 like the ultimate slappy for start. 1437 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,880 Yeah, neighbors, Bowers Breeze Hunter is some serious slapping. 1438 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,960 Yeah, you're a slap in the bass. Slap in the bass. 1439 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,000 Slap in the bass. This slide on on the elite tight 1440 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,440 ends Bowers the. Memory of Sam Sam Sherman. 1441 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:33,720 McBride, Kittle and Laporta. McBride end of two fine I think 1442 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:39,960 Kittle early 5th and Laporta late 6th with tight end. 1443 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,480 What What I'm finding in my drafts is I'm always ending up 1444 01:13:43,480 --> 01:13:46,840 with at least three I get near the end, even if it's Hunter, 1445 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,160 Henry, Gesicki, guys like that to tack on, whether that's for a 1446 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,640 stack or whatever. Ingram and Joku, Tyler Warren 1447 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,200 guys in the middle make sense. Just feel like I'd rather have 1448 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:02,960 in general the bulk at the position but nothing against. 1449 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,080 I mean at least Bowers and McBride, but I'm not ending up 1450 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,320 with Kittle or Laporta hardly at all. 1451 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,960 So I end up with a shit ton of Kittle. 1452 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:20,360 I have 39% George Kittle. I have 21% Brock Bowers, I have 1453 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,280 14% Trey McBride. So that's that's close to 100% 1454 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,520 right there. Combined 74. 1455 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,720 I only have 3% Laporta. I'm probably going to start 1456 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,480 taking a little less McBride. I do like him a lot in a vacuum, 1457 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,880 but you wind up like basically always able to get Kittle at 1458 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,280 the. Fern. 1459 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,800 And I definitely feel like the gap between Kittle and the 1460 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,840 running backs and wide receivers at 4-5 in my ranks is much 1461 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,840 bigger than McBride versus the 2-3 wide receivers and running 1462 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,440 backs like a lot of the guys there. 1463 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,160 So I probably, yeah, I probably want to shift. 1464 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,560 I still want to be at or slightly above market on 1465 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,920 McBride, but I I can't have that big of a position. 1466 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,280 But Bowers and Kittle are are going to be big stands for me 1467 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:10,840 for sure. Yeah, I mean, I'm a little 1468 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,520 tournament bride because I like Harrison. 1469 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:18,640 So it's, you know, he's got risk of like not being what I just 1470 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,200 said. I want, you know, the, the true 1471 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,520 #1 on his team with tight end eligibility. 1472 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:28,240 But he he basically was that last year and he was a great 1473 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,120 pick without scoring any touchdowns. 1474 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:35,440 And Matt Irby had a piece for legendary upside identifying him 1475 01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:40,000 as a as a pretty clear regression candidate in terms of 1476 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,760 the touchdown scoring. We we're like so confident that 1477 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,840 like these guys who can't don't score touchdowns aren't going to 1478 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,760 score touchdowns except like one of the guys we were confident 1479 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,400 about last year, James Cook led the position in in rushing 1480 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,240 touchdowns. So like, we're just, we know it. 1481 01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,760 We know it's like fluky and tough to predict, but like it 1482 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,400 can it's kind of crazy, like how tough to predict it is like 1483 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,160 this. This guy gets a lot of targets. 1484 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,080 He's won his quarterback's favorite target last year. 1485 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,640 It's very likely that he gets touchdown regression. 1486 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,080 And I think compared to Kittle, like Kittle is a spike week bet, 1487 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,760 right? McBride is like just he's a wide 1488 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,240 receiver. You're playing at tight end 1489 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,120 every week. You know, I think they were a 1490 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,960 little bit different in terms of the archetype. 1491 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,920 Kittle is one of my favorite picks on the board. 1492 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,360 So I'm not like him in the fifth round is a no brainer. 1493 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,000 But I, I get I'm struggling a little bit more with like how to 1494 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,240 split it because I also really want McBride. 1495 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,720 So have you done any teams where you take both? 1496 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:45,160 I have. Bowers and McBride. 1497 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,560 I don't know. No, no, no. 1498 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,560 McBride and McBride. McBride and Kittle. 1499 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,760 It's just so slappy, dude. It's like, it's just like, what 1500 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,760 are you like real, like truly, what are you hoping for, man? 1501 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,280 Jacob, you're. Hoping for ping pong and tight 1502 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,520 end weeks and you're looking at McBride and you're looking this 1503 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,800 is 150 target, 100 reception player. 1504 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,200 Like what's really the difference between Trey McBride 1505 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,880 and Rashe Rice? Like not that big of a 1506 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,400 difference. What's really the difference 1507 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,880 between? Trey McBride, you thought you 1508 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,400 were going to win Davis with that, David. 1509 01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,240 McBride has a lot of Rashe. Rice. 1510 01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:18,880 All right, all right. He's going to the same turn as 1511 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,800 Marvin Harrison and Trey McBride's like going to score 1512 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,560 more half PPR points than Marvin Harrison. 1513 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,480 Like that's gonna happen and they're going at the same turn. 1514 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:31,720 They play the same amount now. Probably true, yeah. 1515 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,440 Marvin Harrison's competing with Tip Ryman for Tight End 2. 1516 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:39,040 All right, here's. A good Here's a good fan, I'll 1517 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,920 take out the hate. It's it's at least very 1518 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,240 plausible, if not likely, that Trey McBride outscores Marvin 1519 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,080 Harrison in half PPR points per game. 1520 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,720 They're going at the same turn. So like, I don't really get why 1521 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,400 you can't take him and then take Kittle and one of them goes in 1522 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,120 your flex a lot of the time. And you can also ping pong spike 1523 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,360 weeks. Like I, I don't, I don't really 1524 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,880 see why that's not viable, but because. 1525 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,600 McBride McBride is a is APR merchant. 1526 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,600 Trey McBride, This is this will be a good this will be a good 1527 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:13,040 activity for everyone. Since 2008 to 2024, how many 1528 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,440 touchdowns for Chair McBride, an organized professional? 1529 01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:17,080 Football I like, couldn't care less I've. 1530 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,920 Never cared less. This is just not a. 1531 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,560 Historical rate of touchdown scoring. 1532 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,000 Like I tried to someone got into this fight with me about a lave 1533 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,480 on. I just like don't care. 1534 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,840 I don't care at all what's what happened, Jensen said. 1535 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,280 He's going to run 100 yards and 16 and 20 touchdowns because he 1536 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,120 knows how many yards he can get because that's sticky. 1537 01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:36,840 But Jensen understands that there's a range between 10 and 1538 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,920 20 touchdowns because touchdowns are highly variant. 1539 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,720 The the other thing is like it's you're saying it's like APR 1540 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,680 merchant like that would imply to me that he's not an efficient 1541 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,760 yardage producer, but he is. He's 2.03 yards per outrun in 1542 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,760 2023 and 2.14 last year. That's. 1543 01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,520 Trey McBride is the Charizard of Dalton Kincaids. 1544 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,080 Here we go. What's? 1545 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,960 No give. It a give me a break. 1546 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:12,840 No, this like dude, this is the easiest fantasy analysis we ever 1547 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,600 have to do. Give me a guy who consistently 1548 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,920 earns targets, who consistently produces yards on his targets, 1549 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,440 and hasn't scored tight ends into tight end touchdowns in two 1550 01:19:22,440 --> 01:19:27,920 years. Like this is like 2001 level 1551 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,680 fantasy analysis. Like oh touchdowns are not 1552 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,320 sticky. These other stats are. 1553 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:35,360 Maybe we should bet on this guy who's really good and just 1554 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:36,760 hasn't been in the end zone in a while. 1555 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:42,120 Like we, we can't do this. We can't fall prey to the like 1556 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,720 the easiest fantasy analysis ever and just miss it. 1557 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:51,120 Like come on, like. Like among all wide receivers in 1558 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:55,160 tight ends last year, Trey McBride ranked 26th in yards per 1559 01:19:55,160 --> 01:20:00,200 out run, ranked 4th in receptions, ranked 11th in 1560 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,720 yards. So like if he was just a wide 1561 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,480 receiver? I don't totally get why he would 1562 01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:08,640 be mispriced at the 2 three turn and like to me, the argument 1563 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,120 against tight ends that has been I still don't really think 1564 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,360 proven when you talk about playoff effects in one week 1565 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,040 tournaments right, But what what has been which? 1566 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,440 Is kind of what? Has been legitimately borne out, 1567 01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:23,000 at least over the aggregate of a full season in basketball 1568 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,720 scoring, is that, yeah, you probably don't want to take 1569 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,640 tight ends who will score fewer points than wide receivers and 1570 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,520 then justify it on the basis of scarcity. 1571 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,200 I still think you kind of can when we're talking about playoff 1572 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:35,840 weeks. But over the full season that 1573 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,280 that's been proven pretty true. But now it seems like people are 1574 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,240 trying to go the opposite way where they're saying, actually, 1575 01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,840 even if they're going to score the same amount of points, I 1576 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,280 just want the wide receiver anyway. 1577 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,240 And I don't really think that that's borne out in anything. 1578 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,120 So like I, I don't if Trey McBride just changed his 1579 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,600 positional to wide receiver, he would be totally fine. 1580 01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,560 Like it. Like, you know who else is APPR 1581 01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,200 Merchant? Rashi Rice, who I will draft 1582 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,640 like 25 to 30% of this year. But like he is also a player who 1583 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,560 is going to average 10 to 12 yards per reception, rack up 150 1584 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,280 targets and score 8 touchdowns. Like I, I don't understand 1585 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:10,880 really what's the difference between these two players? 1586 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,360 Yeah, by the way, let this this is going to haunt me forever. 1587 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,520 I took truth serum one day and I and I didn't question it once, 1588 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,280 but I did. I was overweight on McBride. 1589 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,480 OK, slightly. I took more Mark Andrews. 1590 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,400 One difference for me is that I don't like maybe is the the as 1591 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,080 Jacob said, the player, the options at the 2 three turn 1592 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,920 maybe as much as as you do Jacob or in general like I don't 1593 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,920 really want to be drafting T Higgins or Jacobs. 1594 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,320 So I have a lot of McBride for that reason too. 1595 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:45,840 Yeah, I I think he's he's much better than the than the water. 1596 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,760 Like to me wide receiver kind of hits a tear after Lad Mcconkey. 1597 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,760 So now. I agree with that I but McBride 1598 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,040 is a fine pick by the way, but slapping those two together I 1599 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:59,520 think is is bad. Slapping them together is is not 1600 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,360 my favorite thing either. I think the yeah, the thing I'm 1601 01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:06,120 maybe going to try to do with McBride is push him to the third 1602 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,040 like a little more to try to get more kittle. 1603 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,520 But. There's something but what's the 1604 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,880 what's the difference though, between because like the guys 1605 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,280 who go with the two three turn just go in any order there. 1606 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:20,080 There is like T McBride or or Wilson like it just it it like 1607 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,200 literally does. Them it's, it's honestly just to 1608 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,600 try to get Les McBride so that I can get more Kittle. 1609 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,040 That's all I'm trying to do, yeah. 1610 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,480 But I I mean. McBride is a great pick, so 1611 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,080 that's that's why I struggle with it. 1612 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:37,640 Let's skip the quarterbacks for this week because another, you 1613 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:42,400 know, key thing is that we get to the subject that we said we 1614 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,200 would either in the right in the tweet or in the open and that 1615 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,600 was I. I do have the heart out in 30 1616 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,400 minutes also. Well, we got 30 minutes to 1617 01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,440 discuss the five most difficult to rank teams. 1618 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,320 Yeah, well, let's narrow it before we get to the last call. 1619 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,560 I asked the guys. Give me 5 teams that are maybe 1620 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,680 the most puzzling or, you know, challenging. 1621 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,240 And again, like I mentioned the beginning with Pat, I, I said 1622 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,640 backfields, but we were just talking about offenses. 1623 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,400 Doesn't matter there. There were four teams that were 1624 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:16,800 mentioned by you three guys more than once, Dallas, Chicago, San 1625 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,120 Francisco and Jacksonville. And we kind of already did 1626 01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:23,560 Jacksonville, if not also San Francisco. 1627 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,360 But Dallas. Like if you knew the answers, 1628 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,040 wouldn't you love to know what that backfield split is? 1629 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,040 Where the will there definitely not be someone else brought in? 1630 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:40,560 I don't know, like that's who what I guess maybe Pat and Davis 1631 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,800 mentioned. No, yeah, Pat and Davis both 1632 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,120 mentioned Dallas. So. 1633 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,400 Right. Davis what? 1634 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,080 What's the you know, what's the bottom line? 1635 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,240 I mean, I feel, I feel with the degree of reasonable certainty 1636 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,200 that one of the three Cowboys running backs is going to be 1637 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,000 like an advanced rate supercharger in a way that like 1638 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,480 Rico Dowdell would have like kind of I guess Dowdell kind of 1639 01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:05,360 was last year, but got outscored by so many other running backs. 1640 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:06,960 I think that. Depends what your advance rate 1641 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,680 was heading to like week 13. How low was it? 1642 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:10,800 Was it as low as mine? Right. 1643 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,200 And then if you're yeah, he was certainly a supercharger. 1644 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,840 Well, you know, it's funny is the Barclay, the Barclay drafter 1645 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,680 would have a great job. Of turning a lot of my 10th 1646 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,240 place teams into 6th place teams. 1647 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,240 I was going to say the I was. The Barclay out of some Rico 1648 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,640 Dowdle, Joe Burrow teams in Week 14, I'll tell you that. 1649 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,040 The Barkley, Henry, Kamara drafters were taking Zeke. 1650 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:30,880 So they didn't get to. They didn't get. 1651 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,440 It from the. Rico points I would say right 1652 01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:35,800 now. You made me absolutely bet my 1653 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,040 life on it. I think it's Javonte. 1654 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,440 Oh God. But that is like, that's what 1655 01:24:42,440 --> 01:24:43,400 I'm saying. I can't. 1656 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,520 I can't live on this. I can't live on that. 1657 01:24:47,480 --> 01:24:50,200 This is not Davis that I agreed to podcast with. 1658 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,760 I'm podcasting with like fantasy Bros Jeff, who's just like out 1659 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,480 here, like fucking counting up the box score. 1660 01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:03,720 And it's like, who are you now? What happened? 1661 01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:09,280 Who my my skin in the game. My skin in the game answer is I 1662 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:14,160 have 17% Jaden Blue, 4% Javonte, 1% Mile Sanders. 1663 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:22,480 But man, what is what is Jaden Blue's path 'cause I I wish 1664 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:25,320 Jaden Blue was Holly Gordon or I wish Jaden Blue was by? 1665 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,360 Me too. I wish it was a guy. 1666 01:25:27,480 --> 01:25:30,760 DJ Giddens. DJ if it was Giddens. 1667 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,120 Some Cowboys just swap running backs those two picks back to. 1668 01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,560 Back It would actually be bad if it was DJ Giddens, 'cause I'd 1669 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,560 have so much Steve Brown Giddens like I would be. 1670 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,760 It would be an outrageously bad pick and I would have a bag. 1671 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,400 Even Martinez would have been good. 1672 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,600 If it was Dave, if it was Devin Neal, I would for the first time 1673 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,400 ever have drafted 40% of a player. 1674 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,640 I think if it was Devin Neal. Devin Neal would be so fun. 1675 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:54,720 I wish they did. Just. 1676 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,080 Fun. Then you would have a little bit 1677 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,200 of joy in your life. Like I would see the twinkle in 1678 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,720 your eye again. I have some twinkle in my eye 1679 01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,840 when I take Brashard Smith in around 18. 1680 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,720 That's that's. My, that's a fun one. 1681 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,560 That's the sloppy allowance I'm giving. 1682 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,800 But I only do that because Reebs told me it was OK, because Reebs 1683 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,960 was like, Reebs is like these guys, all these guys all suck, 1684 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,640 dude, You know? So just yeah. 1685 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,640 On this show, when we talked about it maybe a month ago, Pat 1686 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,160 said maybe Sanders is the answer. 1687 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,440 And I think I probably have more. 1688 01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:23,160 I know I have more Sanders than Williams. 1689 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,680 Jacob, you agree? Yeah, I I think Javante is a 1690 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,800 really bad pick because I think he's a really bad player. 1691 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,720 And I just think like he got the entire role last year in Denver 1692 01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:34,960 and he he wasn't worth this cost. 1693 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,120 And and he was in a very good situation by an elite run 1694 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,720 blocking the line and he got the fifth most targets of any 1695 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,600 running back and he did literally nothing with it. 1696 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:46,440 He had like one helpful game. So to me it's like if the answer 1697 01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:49,240 is Javante, then the answer is is nothing meaningful because I 1698 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,440 just don't see a path for Javante to be more than like a 1699 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,280 eighth or ninth round pick value. 1700 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,120 So I just don't even care about Javante. 1701 01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,480 He's like off my board entirely. So the the question is just 1702 01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:01,120 like, is the answer someone else? 1703 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,960 If the answer is mile standards, that's also probably not that 1704 01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,720 valuable. But he's an 18th round pick, 1705 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,160 right? So he has a much lower threshold 1706 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,280 to be valuable. So I'm pretty into that. 1707 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:15,960 And then with blue, I'm like torn somewhere between like I 1708 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,000 heard you guys argue about it on, I guess I think it was ship 1709 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,920 chasing about blue kind of Davis and pack going back and forth 1710 01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:22,960 and I'm somewhere between the two of you. 1711 01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,720 Like I do think blue is actually a good player, but just only in 1712 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,720 like a very hyper specific role. Like I, I think he is just like 1713 01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:35,480 specifically good as like a Nahim Hines and there's not that 1714 01:27:35,480 --> 01:27:41,200 much more of a there's, there's there's only so much room to go 1715 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,400 above where he's drafted. That's particularly exciting. 1716 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,320 So I don't think it's quite the same level of upside that Dowdle 1717 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,160 was. I I've taken the most of him and 1718 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,360 Sanders, but I, I do think that frankly, This is why I didn't 1719 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,160 include Dallas on my list is I think that the passing game is 1720 01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,000 very not interesting. I think we all kind of know how 1721 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,640 it's going to go and the running game. 1722 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,400 I think it's going to be 1 of Javonte or Sanders in a 1723 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,520 committee with Jayden Blue and Blue is going to be like an 1724 01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,800 average pick. And then either Javonte is going 1725 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,800 to be an average pick or Mile Sanders is going to be a pretty 1726 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,400 good pick. And I think that's how it's 1727 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,720 going to go. Yeah, that's, that's fair. 1728 01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,040 I I, I've just spent a lot of time kind of thinking about the 1729 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,720 Dallas backfield. And it does. 1730 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,640 I mean, the blue thing scares me because I'm not. 1731 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,920 I'm having trouble getting excited about him because like 1732 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,600 you said, I think he's kind of like Naheem Hines esque. 1733 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,400 Do you read that Schottenheimer quote I posted yesterday? 1734 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:37,280 Or. On Sunday, basically it's I just 1735 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,160 thought it was really interesting. 1736 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,720 Obviously he mentioned Javonte and Miles Sanders is like the 1737 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,680 quote UN quote, like starters or whatever. 1738 01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,800 I thought the interesting thing was that he also mentioned Phil 1739 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:51,560 Moffa and Jaden Blue like at the same level, which someone in the 1740 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,720 responses was like, oh, did we learn anything from this? 1741 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,440 This is exactly what you'd expect a coach to say. 1742 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,320 The amount of times I've heard a coach mention the Round 7 1743 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:02,040 running back, I mean, frankly, I'd actually don't really 1744 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,720 remember the last time. Like have we haven't gotten any 1745 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,640 Laquint Allen quotes yet from, from Liam Cohen, right? 1746 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,680 But we've heard him talk about about Tooten. 1747 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:14,720 That is a that is a a bad spot for Blue to be in, in my 1748 01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,360 opinion. Yeah, especially because like 1749 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,560 the thing that I struggle with with Blue is like, I wish he was 1750 01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,560 Ollie Gordon, a player who I'm not that excited about, but is 1751 01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:31,760 like a big early down guy, you know, like I just, I've missed, 1752 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,520 I've missed on the running back I didn't think was very good, 1753 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,440 who rocketed up, right, Damian Pierce, when he was really 1754 01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:42,040 cheap, I didn't have enough. And then he was kind of in the 1755 01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:43,800 range of Blues going and I didn't have enough. 1756 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,120 And then he ends up like in the seventh round, I think as a 1757 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,480 rookie by the end of the summer because it was just clear he was 1758 01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:52,960 like the starter and was never honestly that bad of a pick at 1759 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,400 any point because he was the starter. 1760 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,880 And then Pacheco, I got a little bit of, you know, I learned a 1761 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,200 little bit, but I didn't wasn't nearly aggressive enough on his 1762 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,920 rise. And you know, he he was actually 1763 01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,240 better as a second year player. But but clearly, you know, that 1764 01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,560 info was correct that he was that he was going to be the dude 1765 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,200 blue. We feel I feel like we're maybe 1766 01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,880 like moving ahead of the we're not getting the buzz. 1767 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:20,000 So it's like us anointing him, which is part of why it scares 1768 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:20,960 me. But it all. 1769 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,560 But I am also worried that I, I don't want to do the same thing 1770 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,560 I did with those guys where I'm like, wow, this guy's not very 1771 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:27,440 good, so I'm not going to take him. 1772 01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:31,760 And then like, could he be an eighth round, seventh round 1773 01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,280 value? Like, sure, yeah, I mean, this, 1774 01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:36,560 this backfield's wide open. These these guys is competing 1775 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,240 with suck. So I, I'm, I'm kind of like, I'm 1776 01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:43,160 just really torn on what to do with blue. 1777 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,280 Oh, they're pretty far out over our skis, but the opportunity is 1778 01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:49,240 also. There. 1779 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,120 So there's another thing I need to mention. 1780 01:30:51,440 --> 01:30:53,520 Two things, actually. The other is that Schottenheimer 1781 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,440 clearly loves Hunter Lupke. He. 1782 01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:57,200 Yeah. Yeah, Lupke. 1783 01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:59,520 In his. Group and Turpin is going to get 1784 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,240 some some like Patterson esques, right esques. 1785 01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:05,160 I know he's much smaller. But you know, the bigger issue, 1786 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,440 though, in my head is because we've all, I think we all kind 1787 01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:10,440 of agree blue is like sort of this Nahim Heinzi passing down 1788 01:31:10,440 --> 01:31:13,160 back. Well, Miles Sanders last year 1789 01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:14,920 for the Panthers, that was his role. 1790 01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:16,840 He was. Well, that's Javante too. 1791 01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:18,720 Javante's A. I know. 1792 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,080 Look, you guys, you guys don't want to hear it. 1793 01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,480 No one wants to hear it. Javante Williams is getting 16 1794 01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:26,120 touches week one for the Dallas Cowboys. 1795 01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:27,160 Notice he didn't. Do anything? 1796 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:28,520 No, I, I, I don't, I don't listen. 1797 01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,640 I'm not hearing. That opening night. 1798 01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:34,120 Like I, I have no dispute to that. 1799 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,880 I, I guarantee you like when I'm writing the Hitchhiker's Guide 1800 01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:40,120 in season that the Tuesday morning after week 1 I will 1801 01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,800 write. Javonte Williams played 57% of 1802 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,640 the snaps and handled 62% of the touches. 1803 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:50,040 Unfortunately he broke 0 tackles and had 3.1 yards per touch. 1804 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,320 Like that's that would be what is like I'm writing on. 1805 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:56,040 That and and And Hunter and Hunter Lupke got the lone goal 1806 01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,880 line touch out of the Dallas backfield. 1807 01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,400 Yeah. Yeah, I was going to draw. 1808 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:00,560 It was. Healthy and active. 1809 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,040 But actually, if you think about how bad Javonte is, there's 1810 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,840 reason for optimism like. That I was going to try a Davis, 1811 01:32:06,440 --> 01:32:10,640 Devante Williams, 16 for 61 and two and a 3419 opening night 1812 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,000 loss to Philadelphia, now going in the eighth round at the FFPC 1813 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:15,440 Friday. What? 1814 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,640 Dude, FFPC. Boomers if they saw two 1815 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,680 touchdowns. From Devante fourth round. 1816 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:23,920 Evening fourth round. Fourth round, Jacksonville, 1817 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,920 Chicago, San Francisco, The others. 1818 01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,160 Jacob, I'll leave it to you because you didn't have Dallas 1819 01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,400 on your list. Like you said, the Bears. 1820 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:31,200 What? What are you? 1821 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,440 What do you want to find out? I mean, the Bears are like 1822 01:32:34,440 --> 01:32:37,800 fascinating because we have no idea what's going to happen with 1823 01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:39,160 any of their pass catchers there. 1824 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,920 They have, you know, essentially 5 pass catchers for four spots 1825 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,200 and someone's being left without a chair. 1826 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,440 And everybody like the underdog ADP would tell you it's Cole 1827 01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:49,720 Comet. But I don't think anyone would 1828 01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,080 actually be surprised if we show up in Week 1 and Cole Comet 1829 01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:58,000 plays 64% of the. And so it's I think it there's 1830 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,440 also like this fun thing where everyone there is very 1831 01:33:00,440 --> 01:33:03,280 interesting, but also no one there is like provably awesome. 1832 01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:07,880 We have like a a good but not elite DJ Moore, who's coming off 1833 01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,880 a disappointing year and is going to be 29. 1834 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,880 We got like a mystery box year, two player in Rome and two 1835 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:18,160 rookies and a quarterback who could be anywhere from one of 1836 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,000 the best in the NFL to a complete bust. 1837 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:24,120 And no one really knows. And then you get this running 1838 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:25,880 backroom. And Ben Johnson's a hard ass 1839 01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:27,800 now. I thought he was too soft to 1840 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,360 coach. Right. 1841 01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,840 And then you have this running backroom between two guys that 1842 01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,000 no one likes, but everyone like kind of agrees that like, if 1843 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,960 these are the only two guys, one of them's got to be like an 1844 01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:42,680 awesome pick, but they might sign JK Dobbins at any moment or 1845 01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,040 trade for someone. Like it's it's fascinating. 1846 01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,680 If I could know the outcome of any team, I think I would choose 1847 01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,680 the Chicago Bears because there's just such a wide range 1848 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,800 of outcomes. And I don't think like the 1849 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,160 Jaguars to me, because I'm a, I'm a big Liam Cohen and Trevor 1850 01:33:56,160 --> 01:34:01,120 Lawrence Slappy is a, my view is like, Thomas is awesome. 1851 01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,680 And there's also going to be a big winner in the backfield. 1852 01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,800 And I would love to know if Hunter's going to be awesome. 1853 01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,640 But I'm like, some people are going to win big. 1854 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,880 I actually think with the Bears, like all options are possible. 1855 01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:12,600 I think like almost everyone could win. 1856 01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,680 I think everyone could lose. I think there could be like a 1857 01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:17,880 couple of big winners and a few big losers. 1858 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,240 Like it feels like every single element of this offense is on a 1859 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:25,600 range of outcomes. Yeah, I think if the thing 1860 01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:29,200 that's cool about the Bears is that like or that's really 1861 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,200 interesting about the Bears is like a lot of teams. 1862 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:36,040 If you just told me like the snap rates, right, like rap 1863 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,680 percentage or just like, yeah, give me the snap shares of every 1864 01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,520 starter. I wouldn't learn like that much. 1865 01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,800 You know, even even with the Cowboys, like I'd learned 1866 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,000 something, but I'd be still be like, I don't know if Gibonsi 1867 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,840 was a good pick, you know, because the snaps aren't enough 1868 01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,640 the the bears. Like if if swift just plays, 1869 01:34:55,480 --> 01:34:59,600 he's a good pick, you know, like he my concern is that he just 1870 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,080 doesn't play because he's bad enough to get benched for 1871 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:03,640 Roshan. But like, if you tell me he's 1872 01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,400 the dude, If you tell me like, which of these receivers is out 1873 01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:10,040 there, like running, you know, the the full rate of of snap, 1874 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,320 like someone in this, I think there's going to be winners in 1875 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,680 this offense. Like in a big way, it's a Ben 1876 01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,200 Johnson offense. Someone's going to come out of 1877 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,960 this at these prices and be and be a pretty awesome pick. 1878 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:24,640 But there's just a lot of guys. I just wanted to say, like for 1879 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,800 all the time and energy we put into trying to read coach's 1880 01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:32,080 minds and through the offseason, DeAndre Swift has been somebody 1881 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,640 where so much of the discourse has been about whether his 1882 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:36,920 coaches like him. Remember, what do Staley and 1883 01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,960 just sort of what he means to coaches and this coach who is 1884 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:46,120 all that goes there and they do not draft anybody to come in 1885 01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,040 over the top. We would have assumed even a day 1886 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:52,160 two pick would come in over the top of DeAndre Swift I think and 1887 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,760 that did not happen at all. So that probably says something 1888 01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:58,280 good about Johnson and Swift. But then they wanted to, right? 1889 01:35:58,280 --> 01:35:59,760 Because the report was they. Were like. 1890 01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:03,560 Like Matt like super tilted that trivion Henderson got sniped 1891 01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:07,280 from them. But then how do you not end up 1892 01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,440 at one of these? Because. 1893 01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:12,760 Because running backs, because running backs don't matter and 1894 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,200 they're going to throw the rock around the yard is is the real 1895 01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:17,680 answer. But the thing that's so if you 1896 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:23,280 look at Swift's stuff as a rusher, he is bad and kind of 1897 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,680 getting worse. He had the worst success rate in 1898 01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:30,160 the league last year, like by like pretty decent margin and 1899 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,800 he's had a bad success for like every year like this dude is. 1900 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:37,160 He's just constantly looking for the boom bust runs, but it's 1901 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,000 just like a bunch of bust, you know, He doesn't, he doesn't do 1902 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:43,520 it frequently enough. So he, just like the coaches, 1903 01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:46,600 lose faith in him. He's also not that explosive 1904 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,000 anymore. He's not that. 1905 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,040 Exposed, like he used to have like big hits. 1906 01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,560 Whereas I remember with the Eagles, which is the year that I 1907 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,120 actually had a lot of swift and I remember like he would 1908 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,120 breakthrough the line and I'd be like, oh, we're getting it. 1909 01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,400 And then he would get like tackled after 16 yards and be 1910 01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:04,400 like, Yep, but. He's OK as a receiver. 1911 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:08,040 That's like where I, I do think like if they're going to, I 1912 01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,360 think I can win the bet on Swift at this price. 1913 01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,720 If he just like holds on enough holds on for dear life as a 1914 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:18,360 runner and is like a pretty good receiving back, which you know, 1915 01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,320 like you look at the receiver rating ESPN last year he was 1916 01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,560 running back 8. You know, he's he was right 1917 01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,960 behind Rashad White. It's sort of like it's the 1918 01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,920 Rashad White bet from a couple years ago. 1919 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,520 There's no from his second year when there wasn't a Bucky like 1920 01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:34,920 that. That's like kind of what it 1921 01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:38,200 reminds me of was like, we have now pretty good evidence this 1922 01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,800 guy's not a good runner, but. How many how many people know 1923 01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:46,760 that DeAndre Swift's best ever yards season was last year? 1924 01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,760 Do you think? Do you think anyone even 1925 01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,320 realizes that that? Actually doesn't surprise me 1926 01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,320 because it was I think the healthiest he's ever been. 1927 01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,360 It was the only season he's ever played every game, yeah. 1928 01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,480 The Bears just did not do anything about it. 1929 01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,480 You know, whether the the question of whether he's good or 1930 01:38:01,480 --> 01:38:03,200 not is I think been long established. 1931 01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,800 But the Bears are OK, I think, with DeAndre. 1932 01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,440 Swift I I think it's a, it's a measure of growth for me that 1933 01:38:08,440 --> 01:38:10,600 I'm not trying to make Kyle Manungai happen. 1934 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,480 I'm just like, you know what? I think it's, I think we're, I 1935 01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,560 think I'm good. I'm good on Manungai, you know. 1936 01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:20,040 I I've read from our comments said I think Kyle Manungai gets 1937 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,360 the first shot at early downs which is like. 1938 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,960 That is just like you, you've you've gone so far in the slap 1939 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,600 reverse that like you, like you need to come all the way back 1940 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,920 around again. I just there's no helping. 1941 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:36,040 There's no helping the the Manungai people really. 1942 01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,400 There's probably no helping the Jaden Blue people either. 1943 01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:40,880 I mean the thing with Swift that I which is the difference 1944 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:44,320 between like Javonte and Swift for me is that Swift is bad but 1945 01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,920 he is fantasy friendly. So I've dipped my toe into the 1946 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,000 Swift pool. He's also a little explosive. 1947 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,400 I mean, yeah, exposive enough to make up for his inconsistency, 1948 01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,520 but he's explosive, right? He is explosive and he's a good 1949 01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:00,840 pass catcher and he like has enough size that he can not like 1950 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,600 be like a true workhorse, but he can be like a quasi workhorse, 1951 01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:05,960 totally kind of like somewhere in between. 1952 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:10,760 So it's like if, if, if a team like I've always this is kind of 1953 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,000 I've always been a little 1 foot in one foot out with Swift. 1954 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:17,120 It's like, yeah, do I think it's a smart way to build an NFL 1955 01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:21,080 running backroom to make Swift your your clear lead back? 1956 01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,480 No. But if you do, then he scored a 1957 01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:26,320 decent amount of fantasy points, yes. 1958 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,680 Whereas Javonte, I think, has reached a point where he just is 1959 01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:33,120 incapable of having like more than 3.5 yards per carry. 1960 01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,600 So I kind of don't really even care how many touches he gets 1961 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,480 loaded up with because he's just going to be so inefficient. 1962 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:42,040 Swift is what Pat pick 80 like. It's not too costly. 1963 01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,280 Yeah, he's pick 82. Yeah. 1964 01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,160 And I think he's like, he's a target there. 1965 01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,960 I do. I mean, he's not like I'm 1966 01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,400 dropping everything to get Swift, but if you need any kind 1967 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,680 of running back help, he's the thing with Swift. 1968 01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:59,440 Is he will. Yeah, he has a ceiling. 1969 01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:02,040 Swift has a ceiling. He's in an offense that we're 1970 01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:03,600 excited about. They could take a big step 1971 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,520 forward. He could be the clear 1A, you 1972 01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,160 know, maybe even a clear like lead back. 1973 01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,640 He's not going to be a true workhorse, but but to Jacob's 1974 01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,680 point, he can handle enough of it and he's the receiving guy 1975 01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,560 and he can hit long run. So I think he's got a weekly 1976 01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:22,120 spike week ceiling as well. You know, just hoping he he has 1977 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,520 the long runs in the right week. I, I, it's not a fun pick, but 1978 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,880 I, I do think he makes sense. And I've kind of gone and 1979 01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,480 reviewed some of these, these grocer picks. 1980 01:40:31,480 --> 01:40:33,520 Like I was looking at Pollard yesterday and I was like, yeah, 1981 01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,560 maybe we're a bit hot there. Like he's the efficiency. 1982 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:40,800 He's not really been a good receiver in recent seasons. 1983 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,600 He's got a receiving back that he's sharing with a bit. 1984 01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,360 And, you know, so I'm like Swift or Pollard. 1985 01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:49,280 I'm Swift after looking at him. Really. 1986 01:40:49,480 --> 01:40:51,360 I'm Swift, yeah. Yeah, I'm Pollard. 1987 01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,760 I I would definitely be Pollard. Yeah, I mean, I get it. 1988 01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:55,960 It's. They're just 'cause I think 1989 01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:57,480 he's, I just think he's a lot better. 1990 01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,560 Like I, I could see Swift still getting, like I could still see 1991 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:03,800 Swift getting replaced by like basically anyone, 'cause I think 1992 01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:07,320 he's just exists at the pleasure of his, of his coaches. 1993 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,560 Pollard like stuff for me. Yeah, he. 1994 01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,120 Doesn't have country Pollard. Could have caps and passes too. 1995 01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:16,920 I mean, they don't really have anyone out there outside of. 1996 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:18,840 Spears. I mean, Spears can be. 1997 01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,320 Able to catch passes Spears. Yeah, no, space is fine. 1998 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,360 That's like his thing He was he was running back five in 1999 01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:27,240 receiver rating last year. Like he's Pollard was dead last. 2000 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,600 There's there's like I'm just feeling yeah, Pollard I think is 2001 01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:36,800 more I was like before literally yesterday I was Pollard over 2002 01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,600 Spears, but I was just like digging into it more and I'm 2003 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:42,320 like, I think this is kind of A2 down guy who's we're like 2004 01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,240 betting on him to get loaded up with touches again, like he did 2005 01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,600 last year, betting on the offense to be better with Cam 2006 01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:48,600 Ward. It it's fine. 2007 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:54,240 But also like I I don't think he's like as far as the three 2008 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,440 down type of upside bet goes. It's really thin with Spears 2009 01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:00,640 there and with how good he's been and you know, specifically 2010 01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,240 not good he's been as a receiver. 2011 01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:07,640 So I kind of flipped it. But the to to the point of swift 2012 01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,360 losing his job to anybody. I mean, Roshawn Johnson I 2013 01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:14,560 started kind of lukewarm on. I do think is a really strong 2014 01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:18,280 pick. Very, really good. 2015 01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:24,000 You know, Jamal Williams type of you know, like just gets there 2016 01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:25,800 on touchdowns type of upside with him. 2017 01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:30,960 He's big, he's he's he can he can play on pass. 2018 01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,600 But you talk about like, where does Swift suck the most 2019 01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,640 consistency? Like right, but it's the right. 2020 01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,160 Well, sure. He's a massive liability pass. 2021 01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,200 In a few ways. Like he's he's like one of the 2022 01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,080 worst pass protecting running backs I've ever seen. 2023 01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:47,440 That's Roshan. That's Roshan Johnson's music, 2024 01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:49,160 brother Roshan. Like that's why when he was, 2025 01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,800 he's a good pass catcher, but when he was in Detroit with Ben 2026 01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,640 Johnson, he lost third down to Justin Jackson because he can't. 2027 01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:55,680 Pass. Right, Right. 2028 01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:57,840 Yeah, That's true King, our king. 2029 01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,160 That's true, our king. But. 2030 01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:02,000 It's also funny like one of one in the chat says find someone 2031 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,120 that hates you like JK hates you. 2032 01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:04,800 Andrey Swift. People don't know this, but I've 2033 01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,160 been solidly above market on John Trace, Swift and basketball 2034 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,200 exposure each of the last two years for the reasons I'm 2035 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:12,960 saying. Which is like, despite hating 2036 01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,120 him as a player, I acknowledge the fantasy appeal. 2037 01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:16,960 That's been kind of a theme today. 2038 01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:20,400 That's been kind of a theme today, talking pro or con about 2039 01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,240 a player at length. And then at the end of the 2040 01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,640 reveal is I actually have the opposite share percentage than 2041 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,040 you think from what I've just been saying. 2042 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,360 Well, Swift is a guy who used to like the Swift profile used to 2043 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,040 cost you a fifth round pick and we would gleefully fade it. 2044 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:37,120 And I'm like annoyed that I don't get to do that. 2045 01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,760 But I have to like take him now in the 80s. 2046 01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,320 It sucks. But the way I'm kind of getting 2047 01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:46,000 over it is I'm also taking Roshan Johnson, who to your 2048 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,360 point, I mean, I'm underselling his ability to be kind of a high 2049 01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,560 value touch king. He could he could be out there 2050 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,880 on 3rd downs in all short yardage, which seems pretty 2051 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:55,560 good. And I don't know. 2052 01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,680 I mean I guess I don't know for a fact he's the RB2, but I'm 2053 01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:02,480 willing to bet that he has a Moat between himself and 2054 01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:04,600 Kalmanong guy. That doesn't seem crazy. 2055 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,960 And then it's like I'm now I'm fading JK Dobbins signing. 2056 01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,320 But wouldn't that have happened by now? 2057 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:15,720 Perhaps let's jump to last call here if we can, we'll talk about 2058 01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,440 obviously these other running back situations. 2059 01:44:18,440 --> 01:44:24,160 All summer there is the grid. It's been rough for Jacob in 2060 01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:25,960 recent weeks. He's been, you know, scrambling 2061 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,960 to come up with a Plan B after I take his guys. 2062 01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:33,280 If you want, Jacob, lead us off. I don't have anyone fun this 2063 01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:38,600 week, but I I will. I guess I will take 22 Atwell. 2064 01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,360 He's been a guy that I've been mixing in. 2065 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:46,480 I love the Dome, the double Dome game, the horny Phoenix in week 2066 01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:50,320 17. Just like AI think it's a pretty 2067 01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:53,520 decent chance he's just running, you know, 60 to 70% of the 2068 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,760 routes this year based on the money he got based on they don't 2069 01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,200 really have an obvious like to me, a three wide receiver set, 2070 01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:04,720 excuse me, with Whittington, Adams and Puka feels kind of 2071 01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,840 slow. So I would want to involve 22IN 2072 01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,080 that instead. And he's going to have a fantasy 2073 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,960 favorable role, especially a basketball favorable role. 2074 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,680 So he's like kind of a fun him and Diami Brown are like guys 2075 01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,480 where if I have too many rookies in my wide receiver room and I 2076 01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:21,760 want some just going to get routes, I I click him a decent 2077 01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,360 chunk. So I'll I'll add him today. 2078 01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,400 Returns too. I want to eventually get into a 2079 01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,280 conversation with you guys about returns because the league is 2080 01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:34,360 making more moves toward hoping to get more big plays out of 2081 01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:39,560 that department. I like I, I take, I take Atwell 2082 01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:44,560 quite a bit. I I've got a giga Slappy 1. 2083 01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,280 Oh hell yeah. Jermaine Burton. 2084 01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:49,640 Wow. Nice. 2085 01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:54,960 Joe Burrow after I called him Fantasy Bros Jeff, he's gone 2086 01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:55,920 back. Joe Burrow. 2087 01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:57,840 Joe Burrow. Like specifically? 2088 01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:59,800 Is Jeff real? Do we have to apologize to Jeff? 2089 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:01,960 No, I, I if I I'm sure that there. 2090 01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,520 Is, but that guy would be named fantasy. 2091 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,080 Bros named Jeff. OK. 2092 01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,280 And so I apologize if there is a person named Jeff who works at 2093 01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,200 Fantasy Bros. I don't know that to be true. 2094 01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:14,400 I just thought of like, what's the most generic and offensive 2095 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:16,160 name you're making? It worse for Jeff now. 2096 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:18,760 It's getting worse. I think it's. 2097 01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,480 Hard to call you out Jeff, but you just sound generic as fuck. 2098 01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,360 Now all Jeffs are offended. Not just fancy pros Jeffs, but 2099 01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,000 all Jeffs. Yeah, Burrow Burrows 2100 01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,240 specifically was like Jermaine Burton. 2101 01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,720 You know, he's in meetings, he's doing a good job, yadda, yadda. 2102 01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:36,960 So, and it allows me to fade who I think is probably the worst 2103 01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:38,120 late round. Click on the board. 2104 01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:39,720 Andre Yoshi, boss. Yoshi boss? 2105 01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,960 Yep, the I. Don't see. 2106 01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:49,280 So as we know, you know, zeros can be kind of tough in 2107 01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,880 basketball mania. But this is this game's early, 2108 01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:54,200 you know, we haven't done the analysis. 2109 01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:58,920 There's no Leonie's manifesto on Last Call so. 2110 01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,080 I can get on him about that. I can swing for the fences here 2111 01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,000 and take some zeros. I'm going to go ahead and take 2112 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,200 Taj Brooks. Nice. 2113 01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,640 Good good game theory pick because he he will probably not 2114 01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,040 be eligible for this game if if something breaks his way. 2115 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,440 If something breaks his way, he'll rise. 2116 01:47:16,480 --> 01:47:19,560 You guys will be snapping him up because I never make these picks 2117 01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:24,000 until the end of the show. You guys will you guys will be 2118 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,600 early to, to, to make it before I even think of him. 2119 01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,760 So I'm just I'm taking him now because I, I do think he has a 2120 01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:32,280 lot of potential to, to make noise this summer. 2121 01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,320 Oh. My God, Pat Bryant used to be in 2122 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:36,720 the two hundreds. Oh, that was right after the 2123 01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:37,680 draft. I see. 2124 01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:38,920 Yeah. Wow. 2125 01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:40,200 Yep. Getting it in good. 2126 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:46,000 We didn't get to this team on Pat's list, but I'm gonna take 2127 01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:49,040 Blake Corum, who's down at 2:02. Damn. 2128 01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:53,160 Yeah, insanely nice work, Mike. Just in just in case, right? 2129 01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,320 Just in case. It's a great one. 2130 01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:57,240 That's a great one. I like Hunter more, but yeah, 2131 01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:00,400 OK. We're going. 2132 01:48:00,440 --> 01:48:03,360 We're going head to head on that, yes. 2133 01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:05,960 I don't know that you you are like in an injury. 2134 01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:07,720 Wouldn't it be a committee of Quorum and Hunter? 2135 01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,800 That's true. We don't know, right? 2136 01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:14,120 I mean, even when we're talking about we're talking about 2137 01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:18,880 Dallas, all these quotes are based on expectations and what 2138 01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,680 coaches have in mind, but they haven't seen them on the field 2139 01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,000 yet. So once they get on the field, 2140 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,480 like not just mini camp, but July, August, a lot of course 2141 01:48:27,480 --> 01:48:30,200 can change, You guys know? Yeah, specifically, JK Dobbins 2142 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:33,560 can get signed one thing they actually have. 2143 01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:36,880 There's one thing Davis. Where are you off to? 2144 01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,680 Is he? Going to sign something I am 2145 01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:40,360 playing on with that. He was fine last. 2146 01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,360 Year he had nine. It's like post, they have to, 2147 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:44,880 they have to. He has to get past this weird 2148 01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:47,440 Chargers tag and then I think he can sign wherever, no? 2149 01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,680 I'm A tag brings him back to the Chargers I thought. 2150 01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:51,760 Yeah, it. Doesn't but it it expires, but 2151 01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,120 it no, it expires. I think he's going to sign JK 2152 01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:56,840 Dobbins is going to sign. I thought it. 2153 01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:58,840 Expires with him going back to the chart. 2154 01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:00,560 I thought the expiration is what makes him better. 2155 01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:03,400 Is that the same thing that Elijah Moore had with the 2156 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,800 Browns? Davis and then the Bills signed 2157 01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:07,600 him away. So I think that's mid June. 2158 01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:09,320 Yeah. Correct deadline. 2159 01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:15,520 I have to go do this whole cast so I will see all of you in 5 2160 01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:19,920 minutes over there later. Thank you, Jacob. 2161 01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,400 What's going on with you this week? 2162 01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:23,960 I. Think I'm going to get back in 2163 01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:27,960 the right and right and chair. I've been sort of resting on 2164 01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,440 ranks and the the massive stream of post draft content, but I got 2165 01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:33,200 some stinks kicking around. I'm definitely going to do a 2166 01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:35,840 piece soon that is kind of similar to what we talked about 2167 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,880 today where I'm just going to highlight what I think are the 2168 01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:41,800 most high variance backfields. So we'll get a lot of Jaguars 2169 01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,960 talk, a lot of Cowboys talk and Bears talk. 2170 01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:46,400 That'll be out probably within a week. 2171 01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,040 Pat. I have a draft plan piece coming 2172 01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:55,520 out this week wrote got the the first draft finish last night. 2173 01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:59,000 So I'm just kind of going round by round and thinking through 2174 01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,920 like, what can I get later? Is kind of like the the little 2175 01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:05,840 simple framework for for trying to stay, you know, structurally 2176 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:10,080 minded in the, the current ADP environment, which really is 2177 01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:13,320 shaking some things up. You know, like, you know, where 2178 01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,760 where is the dead zone now? It's kind of the dead zone is 2179 01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,920 like attached to specific running backs rather than being 2180 01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,000 like a a true pocket. But you know the but the 2181 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,680 quarterback window seems very alive and well. 2182 01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:25,520 So I kind of go through all of that. 2183 01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:30,640 I'm going to be on with JJ Zacharyisen in about an hour. 2184 01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:32,440 So so check that out. We're going to be talking 2185 01:50:32,440 --> 01:50:37,880 DraftKings best ball and have a a stream. 2186 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:42,440 I'll be streaming with Zach and shady at some point talking 2187 01:50:42,440 --> 01:50:44,320 through some some of the research that we've been working 2188 01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:46,520 on. Hopefully that'll be this week, 2189 01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:51,560 but yeah, Legendary upside and check out the sidekick at 2190 01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,720 legendaryupside.com/sidekick for Dynamic. 2191 01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:57,600 Rankings today on WGR, Apparently from what I'm 2192 01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,360 reading, I'll be talking about today's news with the Bills, 2193 01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,440 which is a Joey Bosa calf injury out indefinitely. 2194 01:51:03,440 --> 01:51:07,400 Who could have predicted? James Cook is not present for 2195 01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:11,480 their mandatory work this week, and when I'm not hosting that 2196 01:51:11,480 --> 01:51:14,520 show on the Odyssey app three to seven weekdays, Eastern Time, 2197 01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:18,000 I'm going to continue to be DM ING my Canadian friend. 2198 01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,480 And for every time I go across the border, which this week 2199 01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:24,920 takes me to Guelph for another box lacrosse tournament, it's 2200 01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:29,040 quite, quite a weekend. Last weekend never came closer 2201 01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:34,520 to getting into it with a ref. You know you never want to do 2202 01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:36,840 that. I didn't, but I've never been 2203 01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:38,240 more tempted from one of the games. 2204 01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,960 I saw the Six Nations this weekend. 2205 01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:45,360 Ask me about it at the bar. OK, Thanks for watching and 2206 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:47,360 listening. ADP chasing, signing off. 2207 01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:48,080 We'll see you next week.