1 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:14,110 All right. Welcome. 2 00:00:14,110 --> 00:00:19,750 Back to the FFPC Mini Soda series here on the Ship Chasing 3 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:22,670 Channel, it's a series we do. Every year where we are 4 00:00:22,670 --> 00:00:25,910 recapping all of our picks when we were on. 5 00:00:25,910 --> 00:00:28,470 The clock. Sometimes we are recording when 6 00:00:28,470 --> 00:00:31,150 we are technically on the clock. We have a few picks to catch up 7 00:00:31,150 --> 00:00:34,030 on here. At the 1112 turn and then we're 8 00:00:34,030 --> 00:00:36,910 about to be on the clock at 13, so we're going to have a jam 9 00:00:36,910 --> 00:00:38,910 packed. Episode for you guys here 10 00:00:39,070 --> 00:00:41,670 running down the team. I'll give you a quick recap here 11 00:00:41,670 --> 00:00:45,630 on the team so far from. 11 hole We had Certainly pissed at 12 00:00:45,630 --> 00:00:47,350 yellow to start a J. Brown CD. 13 00:00:47,350 --> 00:00:49,750 Lamb Debo, Samuel, DK Metcalf, Brandon I Youth. 14 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:52,750 Deonte Johnson finally took James Cook at 7:11. 15 00:00:52,750 --> 00:00:54,870 That's going to look nice with all the training camp buzz 16 00:00:54,870 --> 00:00:56,590 coming. Come back and grab Jordan 17 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:59,350 Addison, get our first tight end in the ninth round and Greg 18 00:00:59,350 --> 00:01:03,430 Dolcech then get Jalen Warren. And now we were on the clock 19 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:06,870 guys in the 11th round and I would say a lot of our preferred 20 00:01:06,870 --> 00:01:08,950 targets. Kind of got wiped out. 21 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:12,430 We were looking at, you know, an Eli Mitchell, a tank Bigsby, 22 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:14,750 some of these guys here who would have filled out our zero 23 00:01:14,750 --> 00:01:16,870 RB room. What were you guys thinking 24 00:01:16,870 --> 00:01:19,790 about when we were on the clock at 11:11? 25 00:01:21,750 --> 00:01:27,350 Well, the big question was, do we go to a or do we take another 26 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:29,470 quarterback who's stacked? But that quarterback's still 27 00:01:29,470 --> 00:01:34,070 here and you guys were on the to a side of that and looks pretty 28 00:01:34,070 --> 00:01:36,390 good. Well, yeah, we had, I think. 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,400 That question as well as a question of whether we might 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,440 want to go with Kendra Miller who was one of the running backs 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,960 that we did at the last turn kind of earmark for this turn 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,640 and we we liked, we thought that based on sort of the the 12 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,200 holes drafting profile up to this point that Kendra Miller 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,520 might not be their top priority. There was a a couple a couple 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,630 backs with. Much higher Adp's and jerk 36 00:02:05,630 --> 00:02:08,110 McKinnon and Jamal Williams that were still there. 37 00:02:08,509 --> 00:02:13,030 Miller was I think like the 5th back by ADP or at least the 5th 38 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:16,070 best available player and then both two and DAC or big 39 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:19,230 followers by ADP as well. DAC even more so than two and we 40 00:02:19,230 --> 00:02:21,670 did have seating lambs. So you have that question. 41 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:25,110 Tua is unstacked. And so, yeah, I mean we talked 42 00:02:25,110 --> 00:02:27,930 through. The quarterback element, whether 43 00:02:27,930 --> 00:02:30,450 we wanted to try to grab Miller or try to get him to pass 44 00:02:30,450 --> 00:02:33,090 through and then also just the idea of potentially going 45 00:02:33,090 --> 00:02:34,890 running back, running back at this point and continuing to 46 00:02:34,890 --> 00:02:37,250 push quarterback. Yeah. 47 00:02:37,250 --> 00:02:38,810 And it seemed like we were kind of narrowing in. 48 00:02:38,810 --> 00:02:42,130 Like the two configurations for this turn were either running 49 00:02:42,130 --> 00:02:45,410 back, running back, right, like we had only taken 2 up to this 50 00:02:45,410 --> 00:02:47,250 point or running back, quarterback. 51 00:02:47,250 --> 00:02:49,530 And I think we were kind of wrestling with the stacking 52 00:02:49,530 --> 00:02:51,450 element. Or do we just get the best 53 00:02:51,450 --> 00:02:53,850 possible quarterback with the thought being? 54 00:02:54,420 --> 00:02:57,940 This is still a chance for us to kind of supercharge our starting 55 00:02:57,940 --> 00:02:59,340 lineup. Like one thing we got a little 56 00:02:59,340 --> 00:03:02,660 queasy about with the pissing yellow in this environment is 57 00:03:02,660 --> 00:03:04,980 basically punting three other positions. 58 00:03:05,140 --> 00:03:07,860 A lot of times in years past when we've done the Choose your 59 00:03:07,860 --> 00:03:10,980 RV build, it's also been with an elite quarterback and an elite 60 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:12,620 tight end, so you're basically punting. 61 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,500 The only thing you're really punting is running back. 62 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:18,940 And so I do think us kind of honing in on a quarterback made 63 00:03:18,940 --> 00:03:21,300 a lot of sense here, especially if we thought there was a 64 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:24,340 quarterback who is mispriced relative to the upside. 65 00:03:24,420 --> 00:03:27,980 Like he gives you in Tua. Yeah, I mean I think Tua like 66 00:03:28,620 --> 00:03:32,460 you know he he goes higher than this generally in best ball. 67 00:03:33,620 --> 00:03:36,180 You know he's quite stackable. He's usually like in the eighth 68 00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:40,180 round we got him in the end of the 11th, but I think he's quite 69 00:03:40,180 --> 00:03:43,980 a bit more valuable and managed. Like he's either you're kind of 70 00:03:43,980 --> 00:03:48,620 like happily throwing him in your lineup or you know you're 71 00:03:48,620 --> 00:03:52,460 you're maybe dropping him if things go wrong, but. 72 00:03:52,870 --> 00:03:54,710 You know, you can always pick up another quarterback off waiver, 73 00:03:54,710 --> 00:03:58,190 so it was really hard to argue with the value. 74 00:03:58,190 --> 00:04:00,830 My concern was like we didn't have anyone to stack them with 75 00:04:00,830 --> 00:04:05,670 and like we know we're passing up DAC who we do have Lamb. 76 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:07,830 And so in the three-week Sprint, how much does that hurt us? 77 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:11,990 But again Dac's still being here makes me feel like, you know, 78 00:04:11,990 --> 00:04:15,030 the arguments of hey, let's just get a really strong starting 79 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:18,149 quarterback value and we're going to be so unique. 80 00:04:18,149 --> 00:04:19,790 I mean, looking at the team I was like, I mean. 81 00:04:20,690 --> 00:04:23,330 There's if we make the the Sprint like our team is going to 82 00:04:23,610 --> 00:04:26,450 have some levers to pull to get unique with with how deep we are 83 00:04:26,450 --> 00:04:29,450 at wide receiver this is not going to be like a common 84 00:04:29,450 --> 00:04:32,610 structure or common grouping of players so that that ease my 85 00:04:32,610 --> 00:04:37,010 mind about it quite a bit. Yeah, the the the thought on QB 86 00:04:37,010 --> 00:04:39,890 generally if you look at our board is I mean Trevor Lawrence 87 00:04:39,890 --> 00:04:44,610 went at 6:10 and we were on the board at 11:10 and and those 88 00:04:44,610 --> 00:04:47,490 five full rounds from the end of the 6th to the end of the 11th, 89 00:04:47,650 --> 00:04:50,370 2 quarterbacks went Anthony Richardson and Desean Watson. 90 00:04:50,820 --> 00:04:54,100 So by the time we were there and with this really 0 RB build that 91 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:56,740 pissed yellow early, we had hit a couple of running backs 92 00:04:56,740 --> 00:04:58,180 already. We had hit our tight end one and 93 00:04:58,180 --> 00:05:00,580 Greg Dosage that we think has you know breakout potential to 94 00:05:00,580 --> 00:05:03,220 help our starting lineup and you need to get some strength and 95 00:05:03,220 --> 00:05:04,940 you're starting lineup when you start, you know, six straight 96 00:05:04,940 --> 00:05:07,660 wide receivers and then we get this, you know, I thought pretty 97 00:05:07,660 --> 00:05:10,220 unique opportunity to get a quarterback that we thought was 98 00:05:10,220 --> 00:05:14,260 already mispriced then you know around behind his ADP as well 99 00:05:14,260 --> 00:05:17,020 because the whole room was avoiding running backs for this 100 00:05:17,020 --> 00:05:20,970 five round stretch basically. I think you can make a case that 101 00:05:20,970 --> 00:05:25,570 two should actually be up in the Trevor Lawrence tier and 102 00:05:25,570 --> 00:05:27,330 grouping in terms of what you know. 103 00:05:27,330 --> 00:05:29,930 Last year he led the NFL in yards protect, TD rate, some of 104 00:05:29,930 --> 00:05:32,890 that stuff in managed like Pat said where you're looking at 105 00:05:32,890 --> 00:05:35,290 ceiling but you can cut him if you know the concussions become 106 00:05:35,290 --> 00:05:38,090 an issue again. He's probably for me closer to 107 00:05:38,090 --> 00:05:40,970 Trevor Lawrence then where he went at least and we got him 108 00:05:40,970 --> 00:05:44,490 five full rounds later. A guy who in these mid round 109 00:05:44,530 --> 00:05:47,410 quarterback ranges I think has the most upside to contend with. 110 00:05:48,170 --> 00:05:50,930 You know, maybe not with Jalen Hertz and Josh Allen, but I 111 00:05:50,930 --> 00:05:53,730 think has upside to contend with like a Justin Herb and some and 112 00:05:53,730 --> 00:05:55,690 Lawrence and those guys that go in the 5th, 6th round. 113 00:05:55,690 --> 00:06:00,010 So it was a unique opportunity in this draft where quarterback 114 00:06:00,010 --> 00:06:04,410 had just been so ignored for so long that we got a really nice 115 00:06:04,410 --> 00:06:07,290 value on a guy that should give us a, you know, a fast start and 116 00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:09,450 that you made some great points about the stacking stuff and 117 00:06:09,450 --> 00:06:11,370 getting unique. But we have, you know, Pete man, 118 00:06:11,370 --> 00:06:13,210 another great point in our little chat that. 119 00:06:13,820 --> 00:06:16,500 We have a lot of stack options now coming back and so DAC has 120 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:18,340 made it back. We also took both Debo and I. 121 00:06:18,340 --> 00:06:21,060 You can have talked about potentially Purdy, we have 122 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:24,060 Deonte, Johnson, potentially Pickett, Jordan, Addison. 123 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:27,060 We also have her cousins on the board still And then Dolce, just 124 00:06:27,060 --> 00:06:29,100 our tight end, yeah, we have Russell Wilson on the board. 125 00:06:29,380 --> 00:06:32,540 So just a lot of potential stack options as well that. 126 00:06:32,780 --> 00:06:35,550 Are just a great point. That was kind of what gave me a 127 00:06:35,550 --> 00:06:38,350 little bit of piece on passing on the stack. 128 00:06:38,350 --> 00:06:41,150 It's just like we're gonna basically, every round from now 129 00:06:41,150 --> 00:06:43,750 to the end of the draft, we're gonna have an option to stack up 130 00:06:43,750 --> 00:06:46,230 another one of our. Players, I didn't even say DK, 131 00:06:46,510 --> 00:06:48,190 but Catherine, we can. Jump out there. 132 00:06:48,190 --> 00:06:49,350 Yeah. Wow. 133 00:06:50,190 --> 00:06:52,670 That's a that's a true stack. Like, we're not backdoor 134 00:06:52,670 --> 00:06:54,430 stacking anything. If you got DK, yeah. 135 00:06:54,550 --> 00:06:56,910 Yeah. So I I like it And you know it's 136 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:59,150 it's kind of like what we did with two is a little bit of a 137 00:06:59,150 --> 00:07:02,070 less sexy version of what we've done in years past And our whole 138 00:07:02,070 --> 00:07:05,470 thing has always been in manage. You take big cuts at quarterback 139 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:09,030 because it's not that hard to find replacement level value 140 00:07:09,030 --> 00:07:12,910 like you know, high in QB two production, maybe back in QB one 141 00:07:12,910 --> 00:07:15,110 on the waiver wire. It happens every year. 142 00:07:15,190 --> 00:07:19,230 The Derek cars of the world remain readily available on FFPC 143 00:07:19,230 --> 00:07:21,070 waiver wires. Actually, when we hit the bye 144 00:07:21,070 --> 00:07:24,070 weeks and people are forced to cut their second in 3rd 145 00:07:24,070 --> 00:07:26,230 quarterback. Maybe we have to do a week 146 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:25,070 ahead. So in two. 147 00:07:26,910 --> 00:07:29,390 You know, maybe you have to be a little bit strategic, but you 148 00:07:29,390 --> 00:07:31,350 can get the production, you can figure it out. 149 00:07:31,870 --> 00:07:34,510 And so it reminds me of what we kind of did with Lance, right? 150 00:07:34,510 --> 00:07:37,070 Where it's like, this could be a big swing, it could be a big 151 00:07:37,070 --> 00:07:37,750 miss. But guess what? 152 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:40,630 If it's a big miss, you just cut them like we did and you grab 153 00:07:40,630 --> 00:07:42,070 the next guy. We've done it with Kyler in the 154 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:43,670 past. We grabbed 2 and then you get 155 00:07:43,710 --> 00:07:45,390 last year. Yeah, so. 156 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:49,750 I feel good about this pick giving us access to a 157 00:07:49,750 --> 00:07:52,150 quarterback that I legitimately think, like Ben said, she could 158 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:55,030 have top seven upside be right up there next to Lawrence, maybe 159 00:07:55,030 --> 00:07:57,870 just behind the Herbert field. So feels like a good pick. 160 00:07:57,870 --> 00:08:02,190 And then we basically knew for sure we were going to be doing a 161 00:08:02,190 --> 00:08:04,150 running back with this next election. 162 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:07,630 Only had James Cook and Jalen Warren, and this did feel like 163 00:08:07,630 --> 00:08:09,430 the time. You know, we missed out on 164 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:11,990 Charbonnay, we missed out on Tank Bigsby. 165 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:14,670 This seemed like the time to get kind of a rookie. 166 00:08:14,980 --> 00:08:16,940 In here that we liked. And I think the thing that was a 167 00:08:16,940 --> 00:08:21,180 bummer is like, this is right when the Kamara suspension news 168 00:08:21,180 --> 00:08:24,220 had come out, it's not going to be near as much as we thought 4 169 00:08:24,220 --> 00:08:26,060 plus games. And so all of a sudden Kendra 170 00:08:26,060 --> 00:08:29,180 doesn't feel as sexy. And yet, I don't really think 171 00:08:29,180 --> 00:08:31,100 the thesis has changed that much. 172 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:34,340 Great. Yeah, it hasn't changed that 173 00:08:34,340 --> 00:08:39,380 much. And like, we could really use 174 00:08:39,380 --> 00:08:42,100 those three games. Like three games. 175 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:43,700 Like, that's actually still pretty sweet. 176 00:08:44,410 --> 00:08:47,250 So I mean Rochon has someone, it's it's someone who's like 177 00:08:47,250 --> 00:08:49,170 kind of jumped back up a little bit for me. 178 00:08:50,450 --> 00:08:52,650 He was nursing an injury. That's no big deal. 179 00:08:52,650 --> 00:08:55,450 He's kind of back at practice. He was getting talked up as a 180 00:08:55,450 --> 00:08:58,250 pass blocker again. So kind of the the Rochon thesis 181 00:08:58,250 --> 00:09:01,490 is back on. So looking at the board, it's 182 00:09:01,490 --> 00:09:04,490 like, yeah, we would have been interesting, but just you know, 183 00:09:04,530 --> 00:09:07,450 it's like we're going to start, you know, I know we don't put 184 00:09:07,450 --> 00:09:11,650 too much emphasis on who we're starting week one, but. 185 00:09:12,950 --> 00:09:16,430 Kendre gives you some some late season upside as a rookie and 186 00:09:16,430 --> 00:09:21,230 also like should have you know at least like 3540% of the snaps 187 00:09:21,830 --> 00:09:25,830 in those first few weeks. Unless he has a pretty poor rest 188 00:09:25,830 --> 00:09:27,670 of training camp. But early reports were pretty 189 00:09:27,670 --> 00:09:29,750 good so. We're going to get a lot of 190 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:31,990 information on him quick, too. Like, I like that. 191 00:09:31,990 --> 00:09:33,470 Like you said, we can potentially play him early. 192 00:09:33,470 --> 00:09:36,110 We can also like if it goes really poor for Kendre in the 193 00:09:36,110 --> 00:09:38,350 first three weeks, we can, you know, we can churn that roster 194 00:09:38,350 --> 00:09:41,790 spot relatively quickly. We took him over Jamal Williams. 195 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:44,810 Who you know maybe was the better way to play the early 196 00:09:44,810 --> 00:09:46,570 season upside. But I like with Miller that 197 00:09:46,570 --> 00:09:48,490 you're talking about the late season upside that you just 198 00:09:48,490 --> 00:09:51,330 mentioned and getting an idea really early. 199 00:09:51,330 --> 00:09:53,370 If that seems like a path that's going to hit like we're going to 200 00:09:53,370 --> 00:09:55,690 get a lot of information the first few weeks even if it's not 201 00:09:55,690 --> 00:09:58,930 perfect, we'll be like well you know if things go well if he out 202 00:09:58,930 --> 00:10:01,530 produces Williams like OK, he feels like the handcuff that we 203 00:10:01,530 --> 00:10:03,970 really want to bet on later in the season we'll we'll stash 204 00:10:03,970 --> 00:10:05,570 him. But if things you know if 205 00:10:05,570 --> 00:10:07,690 Williams is definitely playing ahead of him, if Williams is 206 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:10,090 performing, it's like, OK, well maybe we'll we'll cut him loose 207 00:10:10,090 --> 00:10:13,090 right away. And not that this is like it 208 00:10:13,090 --> 00:10:15,650 should be weighted too heavily, but the states did just lose, 209 00:10:15,650 --> 00:10:17,330 you know, Benjamin for the year as well. 210 00:10:17,330 --> 00:10:21,890 Like their depth chart is very, very thin for those first few 211 00:10:21,890 --> 00:10:23,370 weeks specifically without Camara. 212 00:10:23,370 --> 00:10:26,250 So like, it seems almost impossible that Kendra is not 213 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:29,130 going to get any burn. And if he's not getting any bird 214 00:10:29,130 --> 00:10:32,290 week one it, it's it's a pretty big red flag I think. 215 00:10:33,930 --> 00:10:35,570 It will. Yeah. 216 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:38,020 So I do. I do love that idea too of like, 217 00:10:38,020 --> 00:10:39,780 hey, give us, give us a couple games here. 218 00:10:39,780 --> 00:10:42,180 We'll start you with James Cook out of the stretch and then the 219 00:10:42,180 --> 00:10:45,100 dream is he just flashes and they can't keep him off the 220 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:46,900 field. And even when Kamara comes back, 221 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:48,940 it's like, all right, this is coming at the expense of Jamal 222 00:10:48,940 --> 00:10:50,820 Williams. Like we don't need those, you 223 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:52,940 know, low value touches. We got to get Kendra the Rock. 224 00:10:52,940 --> 00:10:55,940 You know, Jamal Williams is. It is funny because like he 225 00:10:55,940 --> 00:10:58,180 scored so many touchdowns that, like he's now good. 226 00:10:58,540 --> 00:11:01,100 But like fans, managers wanted nothing to do with him as a 227 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:04,780 clear #2 last year and I kind of got it. 228 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,360 You know, we kind of like be like it was sort of eating your 229 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,640 vegetables anytime you took him. And then he was not good last 230 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,280 year in a lot of the advanced stuff like his, his actually 231 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,520 like even a success rate, which was the thing like he was like 232 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,400 reliable was not good. It was just way, way better than 233 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,120 DeAndre Swift. It was a disaster. 234 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,400 So. And he got an absurd number of, 235 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,200 if you go look at like the the number of touches inside the 236 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,920 five and green touches. I don't have the numbers right 237 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,520 in front of me, but like, he blew away the rest of the NFL, 238 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,160 right? Yeah, like. 239 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,360 So I just think like Jamal Williams is, you know I've 240 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,280 mentioned the the week one thing to me that's like the little 241 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,320 bonus we get with Miller, but you also get this potential to 242 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,480 hit a real home run with that pick. 243 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 I mean it's not the highest probability thing, but it it 244 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,320 exists. I really struggle to see how 245 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Jamal Williams in any universe is a home run this year outside 246 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,920 of just catastrophic depth chart chaos around him. 247 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,990 So. And Jamal Williams profile, that 248 00:11:59,990 --> 00:12:02,270 is the actual better and best ball profile, right? 249 00:12:02,270 --> 00:12:04,470 Because you don't want to have to guess the weeks he falls into 250 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:06,070 the end zone twice. But that's you're gonna have 251 00:12:06,070 --> 00:12:09,350 some like stone cold like 1 pointers from Jamal Williams. 252 00:12:09,350 --> 00:12:11,950 In your life this year and then I mean going, I don't think 253 00:12:11,950 --> 00:12:13,950 there's a worse team for him because they have taste of Mill 254 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:15,550 too. Like he really was super 255 00:12:15,550 --> 00:12:18,390 dependent on just getting a lot of carries inside the 10 and 256 00:12:18,390 --> 00:12:21,310 inside the five. That was like his whole profile 257 00:12:21,310 --> 00:12:24,310 actually. And so now going to a team 258 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:25,830 that's gonna use like a freaking, you know? 259 00:12:26,790 --> 00:12:28,830 Tight end slash quarterback slash whatever in there. 260 00:12:28,870 --> 00:12:32,150 That's the thing. Yeah, it's. 261 00:12:29,390 --> 00:12:31,190 He's got Tay some hill to contend with, like. 262 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:35,990 You have 16 more carries inside the 10 Green Zone carries than 263 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:37,630 any other running back. Last year hit 45. 264 00:12:37,630 --> 00:12:41,190 Joe Mixon was second with 29. I mean, like, it's all workload 265 00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:42,710 and he's probably not going to get it. 266 00:12:44,350 --> 00:12:47,190 Let's do a. Segue here as we set up our 267 00:12:47,190 --> 00:12:50,630 decision at the 1314 turn. You know one other thing just to 268 00:12:50,630 --> 00:12:54,590 kind of look back on is when we kind of took our tight end, how 269 00:12:54,590 --> 00:12:56,990 the board is broke. I feel really, really good about 270 00:12:56,990 --> 00:12:58,670 that Dolcet selection in the 9th. 271 00:12:58,870 --> 00:13:00,710 I look at the tight ends who come off the board. 272 00:13:00,990 --> 00:13:03,670 My guess is for all of us like the kind of the names that 273 00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:05,910 jumped out like Sam LaPorte, I thought Gerald Everett looked 274 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:08,030 like a value. Those guys don't even come back 275 00:13:08,030 --> 00:13:11,230 to when we pick out 1111. We now find ourselves, and we 276 00:13:11,230 --> 00:13:13,430 can talk about that tied in right now. 277 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:17,150 A pretty flat tight end tier, the beginning of a new tier. 278 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:20,990 And so I would feel pretty gross about our like punt purple 279 00:13:20,990 --> 00:13:23,070 strategy if we were in this range because then you're 280 00:13:23,070 --> 00:13:26,910 realistically looking till 15 to take your first tight end. 281 00:13:26,910 --> 00:13:29,350 And so getting Greg Dolce there on the 9th, I think we played 282 00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:31,950 that well. We do see the flip side of that 283 00:13:31,950 --> 00:13:35,110 though, which is some more of these zero RB targets come off 284 00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:36,990 the board. Pat mentioned Rochon, he's gone. 285 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,070 Jerome Ford, we had ID'd as a guy. 286 00:13:39,070 --> 00:13:41,270 He goes off the board. Taje Spears, another one of 287 00:13:41,270 --> 00:13:43,510 these rookies, Chase Brown. They all come off the. 288 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:46,470 Board here. And so there are some picks 289 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:49,030 we're gonna talk through here, but there isn't like a run to 290 00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:51,510 the podium pick at this slot, at least for me. 291 00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:56,030 The kind of is for me. Yeah, I have one that I like 292 00:13:56,030 --> 00:13:57,710 too. All right, let's hear it, cuz I 293 00:13:57,710 --> 00:14:00,110 think there's some good names. I'm just saying like we didn't 294 00:14:00,110 --> 00:14:02,110 even have to have a discussion on who to go pick, like we 295 00:14:02,110 --> 00:14:03,990 clearly have to have a discussion on who to, right? 296 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:05,270 Sure, yes. Yeah. 297 00:14:07,510 --> 00:14:09,910 The guy I'm really excited about here is Deonte Foreman. 298 00:14:10,590 --> 00:14:13,520 Yeah, because. He he sort of fits that same 299 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,520 Kendra Miller mold, but like kind of better from the early 300 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,920 season stuff. I mean he's splitting wraps with 301 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,040 the ones and you know, splitting with Galil Herbert. 302 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,120 There is some risk of ruin where, you know, Rochon takes 303 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,320 over the backfield at the end of the year and you know Herbert's 304 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,440 getting enough of the the first string stuff that Foreman's just 305 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,080 this like really useless kind of rotational early down guy. 306 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,840 But he's been really good. For the last several years he's 307 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,520 on a very run heavy Bears offense and there's a chance he 308 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,080 he he's a starting running back for a run heavy team. 309 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,160 Like, I don't know, it just seems like kind of an easy 310 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,840 really the sort of like a perfect, like who would we want 311 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,440 right now as a running back? Like a guy who could just be 312 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,520 like a very reliable 2 down starter for a run heavy team. 313 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Seems like the perfect guy to plug in at this pic and here we 314 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,530 are. Yeah, when we passed Herbert at 315 00:15:06,530 --> 00:15:08,610 the 9:10, we were talking through that. 316 00:15:08,690 --> 00:15:10,410 I remember I asked on on that mini. 317 00:15:10,410 --> 00:15:14,570 So you know is the play it for Foreman at the 1314 that much 318 00:15:14,570 --> 00:15:18,410 different than the Herbert play. So yeah, I know Pete, I agree 319 00:15:18,410 --> 00:15:20,890 with everything you were saying. I think obviously we have two 320 00:15:20,890 --> 00:15:23,250 picks here that another long wait and you were talking about 321 00:15:23,250 --> 00:15:26,090 how that one tight end tier got wiped out between Dolce and when 322 00:15:26,090 --> 00:15:29,850 we got back up and seven tight ends went between our our, you 323 00:15:29,850 --> 00:15:34,370 know our 1002 and our 1111. I do think, you know, at this 324 00:15:34,370 --> 00:15:36,490 turn I want to, I want to think through a couple things. 325 00:15:36,490 --> 00:15:39,370 We have a lot of QB value right now, but I think you could you 326 00:15:39,370 --> 00:15:42,930 could see a lot of QB twos go off at once, right? 327 00:15:42,930 --> 00:15:45,410 This is a room that has really avoided quarterback, continue to 328 00:15:45,410 --> 00:15:47,650 avoid quarterback. There was only the two until we 329 00:15:47,650 --> 00:15:50,090 took two and now two more rounds later, there's only been one 330 00:15:50,090 --> 00:15:52,690 more and there's only one drafter here who has taken 2 331 00:15:52,690 --> 00:15:55,010 quarterbacks. The guy behind us has not taken 332 00:15:55,010 --> 00:15:57,370 a quarterback yet and he does have Brandon Cook. 333 00:15:57,370 --> 00:16:01,050 So it does feel like if we if we don't take DAK at 1311. 334 00:16:01,540 --> 00:16:03,740 I mean, I can't imagine he would pass Dak again. 335 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:07,220 I was surprised he passed him when we went to A at the 1112 336 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:10,140 CUZ Dak was already behind ADP. Now Dak is way behind ADP and 337 00:16:10,140 --> 00:16:14,580 that guy does not have a QB yet. So I think this 1415 range could 338 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:17,380 wipe out Dak, Geno, a lot of those names. 339 00:16:17,380 --> 00:16:19,420 And so we do have a lot of stack options. 340 00:16:19,420 --> 00:16:22,020 So I'm kind of comfortable pushing quarterback, but we do, 341 00:16:22,100 --> 00:16:23,860 I think, want to think that there's a lot of picks between 342 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:26,340 our picks and then tie it in. I completely agree. 343 00:16:26,340 --> 00:16:28,640 Very flat tier. Lot of names I was messing 344 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,360 around in the queue and I think I put like 8 names in there. 345 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,400 This is the tier that goes to the end of, you know, underdog 346 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,640 drafts and there's a lot of names towards the underdog 347 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,280 drafts at tight end that we like and Dolsage gives us cover, as 348 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,040 you pointed out. And I completely agree with 349 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,960 like, I feel like our builds going to be strong regardless 350 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,080 with dolsage at the top. But you could see seven or eight 351 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,560 tight ends go before we pick again as well. 352 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,240 I'm I'm, I'm kind of curious what you guys think the rest of 353 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,360 the room's going to do between our 1402 and our 1511? 354 00:16:57,590 --> 00:17:01,910 I would say I have really little interest in a quarterback with 355 00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:05,069 one of these two picks. Even with the huge DAC slide. 356 00:17:05,069 --> 00:17:08,869 I just don't think what to me the huge benefit of the stacking 357 00:17:08,869 --> 00:17:12,510 is for the three-week Sprint. And I do envision a lot of 358 00:17:12,510 --> 00:17:16,430 scenarios where we're actually wanting to play the waiver for 359 00:17:16,430 --> 00:17:18,869 another quarterback and you on it and you feel like you have 360 00:17:18,869 --> 00:17:21,349 golden handcuffs with the second quarterback that we stacked 361 00:17:21,349 --> 00:17:22,550 because it's like what we want DAC. 362 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,720 For CD Lam, you know in the playoff Sprint and I do worry 363 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,120 that that becomes like an unnecessary roster anchor in the 364 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:32,120 way that that's like that's a feature in best ball. 365 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:34,920 But in manage, I think it could feel like, well we can't stack 366 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,480 that or cut that because he hasn't been performing that 367 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,000 well. They're still kind of run heavy. 368 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,160 But like we got to get that stack for the playoffs. 369 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,920 And because there's still so many viable guys, and I'd argue 370 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,240 we have even bigger bets on like the Niners offense with those 371 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,800 two top five picks that like having guys like Purdy and pick 372 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,840 it in our back pocket who might even fit the. 373 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,600 Bold of like a true breakout, a little bit more than DAC, whose 374 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,480 ranges of outcomes feel a little narrower. 375 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,440 To me, I just think this feels like running back selections for 376 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,000 us. And that was so accurate. 377 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,640 I feel like a little burned out because it's like mid November 378 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,760 now. Yeah, no, that's exactly, I know 379 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,120 that situation. I can definitely see that 380 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:16,560 happening. So I'm a little more open to the 381 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,280 DAC slide just because he's he does have a ceiling. 382 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:24,310 And and I should say, I definitely think this is A2 383 00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:26,790 quarterback team for us. It's just like these guys just 384 00:18:26,790 --> 00:18:30,470 keep hanging around like that. Just fell 24 picks past where we 385 00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:33,430 were thinking about him. Think about the next uprighting 386 00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:35,870 slides. I love those points and and we 387 00:18:35,870 --> 00:18:39,110 we don't want to feel like we're locked into carrying two Qb's. 388 00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:42,310 I like the idea of of our second QB being someone we want to 389 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:45,910 carry, but also like somebody that we could cut if another QB 390 00:18:45,910 --> 00:18:48,190 comes available on waivers or whatever, right? 391 00:18:48,190 --> 00:18:49,550 Like, I mean, there's a lot of things that can happen 392 00:18:49,550 --> 00:18:52,230 throughout the year, but. But let's say we don't get 393 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:54,990 Purdy, but then Purdy gets hurt in season, reenters the elbow. 394 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:58,070 We want to be able to bid on Lance probably we have to have 395 00:18:58,070 --> 00:19:01,350 as receivers. So there's a lot of things that 396 00:19:01,350 --> 00:19:03,270 I'm right with you. I don't think I want to go QB 397 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:05,670 here at all. The running back thing. 398 00:19:05,670 --> 00:19:08,430 So other than form and Devin Singletary is another one. 399 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,880 That is sort of lingering a little bit and it's like not 400 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,840 really that sexy. We we are one pick away from 401 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,320 being on the clock and the guy ahead of us was another zero RB 402 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,360 build didn't take her running back until the 6th where he took 403 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:21,920 Damian Pierce. He's only taken 3 and he's the 404 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,880 one who did take Khalil Herbert when we passed. 405 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:26,360 I'm a little concerned he might take Foreman and kind of think 406 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:28,760 about, hey, I want to get multiple pass to the Chicago 407 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,440 Bears backfield because I do have a 0 RB build. 408 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,320 If if Foreman goes where you guys want to want to go running 409 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,940 back because it does feel. I'm with Pat where like the part 410 00:19:38,940 --> 00:19:41,580 of the reason I was saying, you know, run to the podium pick on 411 00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:43,820 Foreman is I I feel like it's kind of a teardrop unless you 412 00:19:43,820 --> 00:19:46,620 guys are in on Devon Singletary, I'm kind of in on him. 413 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,820 I I do think, you know the, I think the upside's limited, but 414 00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:51,740 I do think his veteran status and being brought in as a free 415 00:19:51,740 --> 00:19:54,420 agent is going to pretty clearly make him that the number two and 416 00:19:54,420 --> 00:19:57,140 the handcuff and the Texans might be a little better than 417 00:19:57,140 --> 00:20:01,740 people think. But yeah, it's it's it starts to 418 00:20:01,740 --> 00:20:03,860 get a little. Bit of a better and best ball 419 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:07,560 pick because you know I don't think he's very good and I think 420 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,920 it's basically like the Texans the some games get away from him 421 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,080 and he comes in and just like catches enough balls to matter 422 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,800 and it does seem like he's going to be the clear #2 to Pierce. 423 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,240 They seem excited about Pierce, but it's it's like you know he's 424 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,000 a he's like I have not very talented handcuffed on a team 425 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,960 with a rookie quarterback who probably run heavy but not with 426 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,120 him like so. I mean, he has contingent value, 427 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,210 but I just, I'm like, you know, the guy who actually jumps out a 428 00:20:37,210 --> 00:20:39,370 little bit to me is Rahim Mostert. 429 00:20:39,970 --> 00:20:44,010 I was going to bring him up. Yeah, Jeff Wilson's off the 430 00:20:44,010 --> 00:20:46,210 board. And so you're getting that last 431 00:20:46,210 --> 00:20:48,250 crack at the Miami Dolphins backfield. 432 00:20:48,250 --> 00:20:50,850 And another guy could kind of help us get off the fast start. 433 00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:55,330 And then, like, if Cook doesn't sign, I mean, it strikes me that 434 00:20:55,410 --> 00:20:58,730 Mostert would be, I don't know, you wouldn't jump up a ton, but 435 00:20:58,730 --> 00:21:00,130 you could. Maybe you've gone on the 12th or 436 00:21:00,130 --> 00:21:01,730 something. So. 437 00:21:02,770 --> 00:21:05,610 Yeah, the thing about Mostert 2 is. 438 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,160 Like it. It does feel like a little bit. 439 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,840 I know they're not stylistically similar whatsoever, but a 440 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,840 similar type of play to Foreman, right where the appeal is. 441 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,760 He could just have a role out of the gate. 442 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,680 Maybe we're overvaluing the rookies. 443 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Early season production. We definitely need that early 444 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,000 season production here. The reason most are becomes 445 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,680 really interesting to me is because I do think when he. 446 00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:28,180 Hits for his fast start hit is even more exciting than 447 00:21:28,180 --> 00:21:30,060 Foreman's. You know where a fast start for 448 00:21:30,060 --> 00:21:32,220 Foreman, it's like we get a 40 yard game where he has two 449 00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:34,380 touchdowns. We're like so stoked on that. 450 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:37,300 But with Moster, like if a change just slow to come along 451 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:40,500 and Moster just like that preferred back who's taking some 452 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:42,180 of these 50 yard handoffs to the house. 453 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:45,900 Not only have we bet on this offense with two, but I think 454 00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:48,860 the information you're going to get from Moster is even more 455 00:21:48,860 --> 00:21:51,020 valuable than the information early you're going to get from 456 00:21:51,020 --> 00:21:53,700 Foreman. I think that's a good, good call 457 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:55,790 my. My counter would be to Pat's 458 00:21:55,790 --> 00:21:59,070 point. You know if if Cook never does 459 00:21:59,070 --> 00:22:01,950 sign, how high does foreman or or most cert rise? 460 00:22:02,750 --> 00:22:04,830 Probably not that much if Cook does sign much. 461 00:22:05,390 --> 00:22:07,870 If he does sign, we're we're cutting our 13th round pick or 462 00:22:07,870 --> 00:22:09,270 14. Yeah, that's true. 463 00:22:09,670 --> 00:22:11,830 That is 100%. I mean, we might hang on to 464 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:13,070 them, but we will cut him at some. 465 00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:15,390 Points, Yeah, he's a last round pick at that well. 466 00:22:15,870 --> 00:22:18,270 The one thing I would say in that is, and again you guys can. 467 00:22:18,660 --> 00:22:20,780 Correct me if you see it differently, but if they signed 468 00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:25,180 Cook, I would feel like Cook is more hurtful to Jeff Wilson's 469 00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:26,580 role. It's kind of like the early down 470 00:22:26,580 --> 00:22:29,380 the goal line where I kind of view Moster and a chain kind of 471 00:22:29,380 --> 00:22:32,540 competing for that cohort of touches. 472 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:34,940 For sure, but it just changes the path like everything you 473 00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:38,380 just described about Moster. It's breakout being so exciting. 474 00:22:38,380 --> 00:22:40,580 I mean then you're dealing with a 30 plus year old back who has 475 00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:44,220 the the youngster behind him and has doubt from Cook on the 476 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:46,220 roster, right? It's just like it's a thinner 477 00:22:46,220 --> 00:22:47,330 thing. That's why. 478 00:22:47,330 --> 00:22:49,970 I mean, Forman to me is definitely to pick because you 479 00:22:49,970 --> 00:22:52,170 don't have to worry about them signing somebody. 480 00:22:52,530 --> 00:22:55,410 So one of those things where you want to hear a little bit of 481 00:22:55,410 --> 00:22:59,330 Rochon buzz so that they don't sign Cornet or Zeke or 482 00:22:59,330 --> 00:23:03,050 something, yeah. So yeah, I will say he's an 483 00:23:03,050 --> 00:23:05,850 easy. One of the two, and not even 484 00:23:05,850 --> 00:23:08,130 just because Forman's a tick ahead in ADP. 485 00:23:09,090 --> 00:23:12,850 You know form most sure it's the one way more likely to come back 486 00:23:12,930 --> 00:23:16,050 because people are so spooked by that dolphin situation we've 487 00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:19,490 seen in the underdog ADP market. So like this drafter if he's 488 00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:22,090 taking another running back, like I feel pretty strongly he's 489 00:23:22,090 --> 00:23:26,130 probably taking Zeke if anyone probably would go forbid over 490 00:23:26,130 --> 00:23:28,370 Moster if he did make that decision. 491 00:23:28,570 --> 00:23:31,210 I do want to make one point on the room that we have here. 492 00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:33,450 I do. This does strike me as a lot of 493 00:23:34,010 --> 00:23:38,050 we can start for running back drafters in this in this room. 494 00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:41,400 Like the guy of the one hole went Jefferson, then Henry 495 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,800 Gibbs, ETN Acres and Montgomery and then he comes back and gets 496 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,040 Brian Robinson in the tenth round he's taken running back at 497 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,600 the 14 fifteenth turn, I'm telling you. 498 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,560 So I mean, I think if you look at the just in the queue like 499 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,000 Singletary, Zeke, Forman, Mostert, Fournette, Hubbard, 500 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,880 Gainwell, Edwards, I would expect all of those guys to be 501 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,960 gone before we're back up. Yeah, this does feel like a 502 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,000 running back, running back turn, I think, right? 503 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,640 Is that what I think? So. 504 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,600 It and I was just gonna say at a past point like look at the five 505 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,760 hole, right? This is this is like an FFPC 506 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,040 thing right? You take your anchor running 507 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,520 back in the second Tony Pollard, you get like the sexy premium 0 508 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,240 RB guy in the 8th and then he just starts drafting as if it is 509 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,840 a 0 RB team. Charbonne, Take, Bigsby, Roshan, 510 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,200 Johnson, Taji, Spears, we, I think we all like all of those 511 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,480 guys. But these guys do not sit stop 512 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,640 drafting running backs, regardless of how they've 513 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,840 approached the position previously. 514 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,720 You can start. That's funny. 515 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,840 That's that's a lot of we can start fours, I'm telling you. 516 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:39,720 Yeah, he that guy only had five, five receivers. 517 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,560 He took Hertz and got her as, like, premium options. 518 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,960 But like you, you probably like him to mix in a tight end, two 519 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,440 or a sixth receiver at some point. 520 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,520 He's just like, no, I'm gonna keep taking ready backs forever. 521 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,920 Yeah, at tight end, I think we might be in better shape like I 522 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,720 think Conklin goes and I think Ferguson probably goes, but then 523 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,480 the next tight end is Trey McBride is a ADP of 203. 524 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,280 So we're going to be on the clock at pick 179. 525 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,200 So it's the there's a chance that Ferguson has an ADP of 526 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,760 179.7 is there? And he's only second down on the 527 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,680 tight end. So it's not just that we're flat 528 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,600 at tight end now. It's that like we fully are 529 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,840 ripping off the start of a new tier. 530 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,040 If we take a tight end I. Think and actually 7 drafters 531 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,800 behind us have two tight ends already. 532 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,120 Two of those seven have three already. 533 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,840 So seven of the 10 have already taken multiple tight ends in 534 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,320 terms of what they think they have needs at and that type of 535 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,010 thing. I was worried about maybe a 536 00:25:33,010 --> 00:25:35,850 tight end run here. You know of the three that have 537 00:25:35,850 --> 00:25:38,410 not taken their tight end two, it's Kelsey Andrews and Goddard 538 00:25:38,450 --> 00:25:41,010 that are their tight end ones. So it's guys that might maybe 539 00:25:41,010 --> 00:25:43,170 don't even prioritize tight end two at this point because they 540 00:25:43,170 --> 00:25:45,730 took tight end so high. I think, I think you're right. 541 00:25:45,730 --> 00:25:48,170 I think we're going to actually not have that huge run of tight 542 00:25:48,170 --> 00:25:50,690 end hopefully and hopefully have you know the similar options at 543 00:25:50,730 --> 00:25:53,330 1516. Let me flip one more running 544 00:25:53,330 --> 00:25:56,170 back cuz I know we're a little tight on time, but Kenneth 545 00:25:56,170 --> 00:25:58,610 Gainwell is also I think pretty interesting. 546 00:25:58,610 --> 00:26:01,860 Is this a high run swing? This is a manager league. 547 00:26:01,940 --> 00:26:03,860 We're going to see what we have pretty quickly. 548 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:06,700 Reports are that he's the two-minute drill guy. 549 00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:08,940 They really like his reliability. 550 00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:10,300 They drafted him for explosiveness. 551 00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:13,900 He's been really reliable. The coach wore his shirt to a 552 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:15,860 press conference. I mean, we took Debo because 553 00:26:15,860 --> 00:26:17,460 he's sending naked pics to his coach. 554 00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:19,140 Like the coach is wearing gain well shirt. 555 00:26:19,140 --> 00:26:23,260 He's returning the love. So yeah, I mean, I love Penny. 556 00:26:23,260 --> 00:26:25,620 He's definitely dealt with some serious injuries. 557 00:26:25,620 --> 00:26:28,980 Gain well or swift, is super inconsistent and unreliable. 558 00:26:28,980 --> 00:26:30,940 Like, I don't know. There's a chance This is a 559 00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:35,300 really strong season for Tangle. And it's that, like we've talked 560 00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:37,860 about it last year too. Like that type of profile has 561 00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:41,300 kind of like died off, like the true pass catching JD Mckissick 562 00:26:41,420 --> 00:26:44,420 early, Nikem Heinz stuff where it's like I'm just gonna get, 563 00:26:44,620 --> 00:26:46,940 you know, 7 to 8 points. And because they're like a 564 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:50,380 talented player, there's a bit chance for more, I do think. 565 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:54,470 Well, it's like one of the few guys that fit that and there is 566 00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:57,630 some sneaky contingent upside to the points you just made about 567 00:26:57,630 --> 00:27:01,350 how fragile and unproven like Swift and Penny are across the 568 00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:03,990 full season. So to me, it could be the Swift 569 00:27:04,150 --> 00:27:05,830 like. There's a chance he's swift and 570 00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:06,710 Swift has gained. Well, like. 571 00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:09,150 I'm not understand most likely at all. 572 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:13,430 So in to me Pat I'm glad you mentioned gain well because the 573 00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:17,150 other two names you know like or even guys like Chuba who I like 574 00:27:17,150 --> 00:27:21,430 a lot like I do worry about like the true late season contingent 575 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:25,230 upside of I guess even both Singletary and Chuba of backs in 576 00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:27,950 bad offenses that even if they were thrust in the starting 577 00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:29,470 role. Do I think we getting be getting 578 00:27:29,470 --> 00:27:31,150 10 plus points a game from them? Sure. 579 00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:33,990 But do I think they could scorch the earth in the way gain? 580 00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:37,500 Well could if? The roles, you know, broke the 581 00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:41,100 right way, just by necessity of how those offenses operate. 582 00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:45,180 Yeah, I mean, you're getting a the best offensive line of 583 00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:47,660 football is going to score a ton of points and is not afraid to 584 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:50,780 pound the rock. So that's pretty good, yeah. 585 00:27:51,620 --> 00:27:53,860 I do saw some interest in singleter, but it sounds like 586 00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:55,940 you guys are both pretty out on that entirely. 587 00:27:55,940 --> 00:27:59,300 He just, yeah, he just feels more best Bally to me. 588 00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:01,780 I do take him in best ball. I I don't think he's a bad pick, 589 00:28:01,780 --> 00:28:04,260 but I just is. I'm like trying to think 590 00:28:04,260 --> 00:28:06,020 through, like I'm trying to dream on these guys. 591 00:28:06,020 --> 00:28:08,300 And Singletary is a. Little hard to dream. 592 00:28:08,660 --> 00:28:10,900 Sure. I think the thing about when the 593 00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:15,380 thing about Cuba is like it's almost like those guys that do a 594 00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:18,260 bunch of little things, right or he offers a bunch of little 595 00:28:18,260 --> 00:28:21,100 things that we like to this. But if I think of like banking 596 00:28:21,140 --> 00:28:24,180 early season production or having like really big 597 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:26,980 contingent upside down the stretch, I think guys like form 598 00:28:26,980 --> 00:28:30,950 and most certain gain well. Like hit those notes in a harder 599 00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:33,750 way, even though Hubbard is probably like above average 600 00:28:33,790 --> 00:28:35,910 across the board and the things we're looking for in a running 601 00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:38,190 back, if that makes sense. No, I think that actually makes 602 00:28:38,190 --> 00:28:40,310 a ton of sense. I guess my thought is OK, we've 603 00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:42,590 already hit some of that with Warren and Kendre and even 604 00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:45,070 cooked to an extent. And so Singletary is like a 605 00:28:45,070 --> 00:28:48,670 boring thing to layer in. It's part of the running backs 606 00:28:48,670 --> 00:28:50,910 we've already taken. That has me some interest in 607 00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:52,190 Singletary, but I think I'm with you guys. 608 00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:55,310 Let's just keep taking swings. I will say though, I do not 609 00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:58,670 think, I think of all the guys we've mentioned, most are 610 00:28:58,750 --> 00:29:03,270 Singletary Cuba gain. Well, I don't think any of those 611 00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:05,660 guys are coming back. None of them are coming back. 612 00:29:05,740 --> 00:29:08,460 All getting wiped out by the time because I think what we're 613 00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:11,620 going to see is the huge QB run in a bunch of these other 614 00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:13,980 running backs and people kind of like grabbing their more of 615 00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:16,180 their KJ Osbournes cuz they need wide receivers. 616 00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:18,220 Like that's what these next two rounds are going to be. 617 00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:21,420 And I think that's why if we do running back, running back here, 618 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:25,180 we're gonna have a ton of QB and tight end options at 1516. 619 00:29:26,540 --> 00:29:27,900 I'm sold on running back, running back. 620 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:31,060 I mean, I'm actually, I'm now like very excited about getting 621 00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:33,580 well, especially if we compare them with like a foreman. 622 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400 That feels like a really strong turn here. 623 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,400 I like so I'm totally good on. I like the most. 624 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,600 Or take two of just the cook thing Scares me. 625 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,880 Where like the ADP could just click. 626 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,760 Yeah, right. So it seems like we all like 627 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,240 forming here and then we can kind of regroup on the gain. 628 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,120 Well, Moster kind of Singletary triumvirate. 629 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,640 Because we know at least one of those guys is gonna be there, 630 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,040 right? Yeah, we just got to hope 631 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,320 Foreman doesn't go to the Herbert drafter at 10. 632 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,560 If Foreman goes, where are you guys at? 633 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,520 Because you know, I. Think I'm leaning gain. 634 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,240 Well, I think you made. I think I'm leaning gain well 635 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,640 too. Yeah, I think I would as well 636 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,440 because again, I just do not think this guy would take 637 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,160 Moster. He would be the other guy that 638 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,720 and I just think Moster has a better chance of coming back. 639 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,120 I think both will just based on ADP, but. 640 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Sure. A game on Molster would be a 641 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,760 would be a fine turn. I mean those are guys we can cut 642 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,720 but also that have paths to like OK they surprised us weak one. 643 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,240 This is exciting you know. Yeah, if you cut your 14th round 644 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:36,320 pick, who cares? I think to me it's basically 645 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,080 like I want game while on this team. 646 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,600 You you guys sold me on that and then it's like one of Foreman or 647 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,120 Moster. But I just think we take Foreman 648 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,960 first, because he's the guy least likely to make it back of 649 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,870 all three of them. I agree. 650 00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:53,390 I like that, yeah. I'm not looking the game up 651 00:30:53,390 --> 00:30:57,350 first. Yeah, I just think he's, you 652 00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:59,590 know, if we're just looking in the app, how people look at it. 653 00:30:59,590 --> 00:31:05,030 3456 game, well 7th in the running back ADP it just he did 654 00:31:05,030 --> 00:31:08,150 take Jarek and gain was kind of like the Jarek of the of the 655 00:31:08,150 --> 00:31:12,030 Eagles in a way. But I don't know I I feel OK. 656 00:31:12,030 --> 00:31:13,230 I think. I think there's other running 657 00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:14,590 back targets he's going to like more. 658 00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:16,710 He's an interesting drafter. We we've not been able to 659 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:19,110 profile him, really. I do think he's going QB at this 660 00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:20,590 time. With one of the pics, I think 661 00:31:20,590 --> 00:31:24,030 you got it from that go. Yeah, so we have. 662 00:31:24,030 --> 00:31:26,470 We have decent amount of cover to still get one of the backs 663 00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:28,030 here. We appreciate you guys tuning in 664 00:31:28,030 --> 00:31:30,910 for this mini sold series. We'll be touching back with you 665 00:31:30,910 --> 00:31:34,230 guys in the 15th and 16th round. You'll obviously get caught up 666 00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:37,990 on which running backs we took at 1314 and this team is really 667 00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:39,670 coming together. 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