All right, we are all fired up for the show trade free agency
little behind-the-scenes refill, freak guy, that's lovely
partner. Britney just absolutely irate
about something that happened on the F1.
Netflix. Joe, what is it?
Is it race to survive? I think that's what it's called.
Yeah. We just started.
No drive to survive. We just started.
We're like on episode 3 and there's this mishap.
It's a it's not even like from the current season that they're
following. You know, it's kind of like a
hard knocks type of thing where they follow in real time.
But it's actually a flashback to this guy.
This driver who almost won Monaco and he pulls into the pit
stop. He's told to pull in by his team
when he gets to the don't have the tires already and they Cost
him the win because I take 10 seconds to like find the tires
and get them on this guy's car and Brittany is just very heated
about it out, right? Yeah.
Yeah, if you heard Brittany, I would have thought she's been
tracking this team driver for her entire life and it sounds
like it's three episodes IV. How quick do they get the hooks
in you on the show? It's good.
It's quick. Yeah, she's the tires.
The tiger boys change the tires. What do you mean?
She's a nurse. He's like what?
She let it when I was like, what?
If what if We walked into the surgery and the same and the
surgeon just goes the heart. I forgot the heart.
Yes, very analogous. Do you think this show?
Might be the greatest cinematic achievement of all time, like,
dramatically. When did you say very good?
I have never seen it, but when it came to Amna fantasy, I
cannot tell you how many people were freaking out about how F1
would fit and I was like, this is the most predictable sport
ever. I was looking past results,
same, dudes. What it every year for like 20
years. Like, at least like 10 years.
It's it was like the exact same standings the last like two or
three years in row and people like know, it's gonna be
different this year. The cars are different for all
these reasons, all this stuff somehow, they took this not even
very dramatic sport. That only has like five people
that could actually win. Like, that's the unwritten rule,
which I've learned after talking soon as people, but they've made
it. Seem dramatic to the point where
people are like really invested in every team.
I don't even understand how they pull this off.
But well, I think it's one of those Sports where Like and I
thought the premier league has a little bit of this where it's
like you end up kind of competing.
You're not like necessarily competing for first be like we
got to beat this team. Like we got to be you've gotta
meet this other team. Yeah, our this is a rival club
or whatever you got to beat them.
It's like yeah, we finished seventh but we finished ahead of
those assholes so it's a good year.
Yes F1 fever is taking over everyone.
It dominated the timelines this weekend Brian and I even got
sucked into talking about it on lulls, but we do need to him.
It is our guess, the Alpha Man himself fresh off.
A trip to Nashville, Downing very spicy, few food.
Someone in the chat saying you looks felt Leone.
How we doing buddy are you know I didn't do my F1 prep for the
show so I'm feeling a little little behind a little little
outside myself, know it, but you're getting back in the
groove. You been doing some some
Dynasty, some you know, NFL draft podcasts over there you.
Are you feeling refreshed? And rejuvenated after a long
season. I am, you know, I took like the
last offseason, I felt like I was so burnt out, but like I
didn't really have a break, and I just kind of had to had to
grind through it this season. I took like a two-week vacation
where I really just didn't do any work.
So now, I'm feeling good. I've got a bunch of projects.
I'm working on this off. Season has been absolutely
Bonkers, which has been been kind of crazy.
And yeah, I had just had pat on the establish.
He had show today talk. Your 2 receivers had a Miko on
talking. The wide receiver prospects.
I've got JJ on Friday, talking running back prospects.
So deep in the dynasty weeds and getting all our best ball
rankings up. I haven't really done too many
drafts myself. But like, just trying to tweak
the best ball rankings. I feel like it's been like way
harder this year that this point last year.
And I don't know if it's that people are more interested.
So I'm like more worried about them being really good, or if
it's just like the craziness, with the news, I feel like I've
had to rush to my computer, like Six seven times this off season,
I feel you didn't happen at all last offseason at least tell you
coming on like the hill thing. Obviously we got to talk about
But like everyone keeps his the crazy sauce in this crazy ass
off season. But like the thing that was just
crystallizing in my head as we just saw the end of slyke,
dynasties like the Mahomes Hill era wasn't era and that ended
the Rogers Adams era in Green Bay was an ERA.
Russell Wilson has been the Seahawks quarterback for 10
years and he is no longer their quarterback.
Tom Brady, obviously left New England, a couple of seasons
ago. That was the massive end of an
era. The biggest one, probably not a
fellow history but like he retired and unretired in it.
So we thought that Tom Brady, no matter where he's playing is an
era we pass for now. It's not you even have to
Charles Watson who like you know it's like sort of the
afterthought this point but that's a really good Cleveland
team and now that's they have DeShaun Watson at quarterback
and that's going to be a whole new thing.
It's a whole new segment of the NFL going forward.
My God. You have Watson are I'm like
re-emerge that might you have the Bangles addressing
offensive, like the betting markets did not, they treated
them like basically a fraud conference Champion right after
the Super Bowl, they were not looking like a favorite to win
Super Bowl next year. I think the way they dress the
offensive line and everything, like they're going to be good,
the Chargers have would have done things, right?
The bills have come up, we have like a whole new NFL coming.
It's not from the last five or ten years.
I mean, it's even like the Colts getting Ryan's, like, low-key,
like they're going to Pretty good.
Like they're not as talented as these other teams but tell her
our CEO at e TR was talking about this.
But it also feels like this could be the start of like not.
I don't think each offseason will be this crazy, but I think
teams have always been like that.
You know we're just going to play the cards were dealt like a
little bit too much in the past and now I think they're being a
little bit more like proactive little bit more plus EV teams
are willing to go all in other teams like the Chiefs are like,
not just going to sink with with really bad contracts.
Like they're going to trade Tyree kill instead of extending.
Um so I do think like teams are going to operate a little bit
more aggressively in the trade, markets moving forward.
I was exhausted funny. I was just going to say it was
funny that the kind of universally panned move was you
know the Cristian Kirk and the Jack stuff at the top and then
it feels like most of the subsequent moves.
Everyone's like that makes sense though, that seems like a win
for both sides like like everything I guess the the atoms
Roger stuff was a little weird with just Rogers re-upping
without a But for the most part, everything is felt very kind of
win-win e or at least. You could logically tell
yourself why that stuff was happening.
You have a the Packers ones like a bad trade for the Packers in
terms of like where they are right now, but like it's a good
like they won the trade. Like, you know, objectively to
not like you're trading, picks for the right to make the guy,
well, I guess not anymore, but the highest-paid wide receiver
in the league at the time for like a week.
I had a half-baked thought, like we Grown up in this era of NFL
parody, it's just been like kind of this endless NFL parity,
which has been really fun. And, but I was kind of thinking,
like, you know, the like analytical like kind of
analytical football slowly pushing its way, changing the
sport a little bit, your year-by-year basically, you
know, leaning into passing leaning into how important
quarterback play is. And that makes the game.
I think a lot more fun, like it makes each individual game more
fun in. Opinion.
But I wonder if it's kind of tilting the balance of the sport
a little bit where like if you have a Mahomes and you actually
are using the homes correctly, then you're going to have such a
bigger advantage on your opponent's.
Then like in the past like even teams who have like advantages
weren't necessarily maximizing those advantages and so that was
like helping contribute to the parity where now it's like the
teams with the advantages actually know how to maximize
them a little bit better. And so that's like potentially
creating more of an uneven playing field and then that
Uneven playing field combined with some changes in the front
office's I think it's set of eyes.
It seems to go a little bit more in or all out than in years
past. We could basically be like,
well, it's like flipping coins when once you get to the season
so let's just keep flipping them.
I know, I know you're talking real life but like a fantasy
quarterback position is like that, right?
Because teams are like the best quarterbacks are on the team's.
They're going to score the most points and those teams generally
passed, more aggressively and we start getting these more
predictable gaps up. I think we're drafting a
superflex underdog team, which I'm pretty pumped about, but
when I was working on those rankings, it was like, super
clear that. Now you get outside the top 15
or so there's not a lot of guys that have the legs to like to
really make it serious move like those top 10. 12 guys are pretty
solidified and it's the biggest Gap in between the quarterback
has never been this segment, right?
Yeah, I don't think so because in the past, right?
I mean like five ten years ago was like Rogers or rust Wilson
would have a crazy efficient year and they'd be way up and
then they'd regress to the mean but now it's like Mahomes is
absurdly efficient and he's the number one password over
expectation team you know like these guys who are good are in
such good environments boosting them up it's not just an
absurdly efficient season. It's like so many things in
their favor on the The trade thing and I was I tuned in to
Gretch and Sean when they went live on that reaction and you
know, Sean made a simple point but it also made so much sense
that like in Pat was referencing this when he says the Packers
won the trade. But Like those try Dynasty
trades where you're in that Perpetual reload of like you
almost sell the top of the asset and then backfill.
And so all of us, the reasons you might know you're getting
rid of Davante, Adams. You get rid of Tyree kill, but
like, I mean, if there's one franchise or two franchises with
quarterbacks that could maybe get away with, you know,
drafting really good talent with a bunch of Dart throws behind
it. It's probably an Aaron Rodgers
and Patrick Mahomes team I guess the question is have the chiefs
proven that they have a draft. We could grab a drink order.
And people have mentioned a lot of sort of CopyCat stuff that is
happening. The Rams are a big one that
comes up. I think that element with these
receivers has to go back to the digs trade and Justin Jefferson,
right? Like that was the team that did
it, where they take the exact first round pick.
They got from digs, the Vikings and got Justin Jefferson.
And everyone is kind of said, that's been a win-win in these
last couple of years. Since that's, I mean, there's
obviously some shades of that where the Packers and Chiefs are
going to try to do that this year.
We're going to try to get an impact rookie that can come in
and be Good. The prime not going to get
dressed in Jefferson, but if they can get somebody who comes
in and is good in your one on a way smaller contract, it's going
to be exactly what you just said.
Well, I think it makes a lot more sense for the Chiefs
because you're getting, you know, you're gonna have to pay,
they were willing to pay, Tyree killer money.
They basically got to a certain point where they're like, well,
we're not paying more than this. They could leak reached an
impasse, then you trade them away, you get five picks and you
know you get the chance over a long career from Patrick.
Homes to try to fill it. Like if you lose a year from
Patrick Mahomes this year because you didn't have time to
kill but you gain Championship window years?
Like, you know, even if they're five years from now, if you gain
a couple, that's a huge win. But you don't know for the
hackers. Yeah, you don't have to pay him
for the Packers. It's like really dangerous.
The other thing with the chief says they were in a pretty tough
cap situation. Kind of has is so now maybe they
have enough, maybe it's in her room so much because they're
able to actually spend a little bit on their depth, which they
We weren't going to be able to do so much.
I mean they weren't with with Tyree kill sonichu a massive New
Deal. Yeah that's something Shawn I
think about where they've obviously been a two-horse
passing game for a really long time.
Basically, just focus had II mean, I don't know how good
their data is but they have the chiefs like 96% to when this
trade like like over an extended period of time which seems like
an insane number to me, but they're whatever their War model
is like they had it like really Add in the cheese favor.
I mean, just from a from a football perspective this idea
that they could get to a place where they have three or four
actual receiving threats as opposed to just having Hill and
Kelsey because they've run into some trouble at times against
teams that are able to take away Hill and then also still take
away Kelsey to a degree, I mean we've seen teams take away Hill
and the Kelsey had these big games.
Like it's a lot harder when you have that third and fourth
weapon, I mean, that's something we talked about the box and some
of these other passing games, the Rams have done a good job of
it. As always, I've always kind of
having a third weapon that can contribute.
But yeah, I mean, they're going to be a way different team.
I agree with you. Path are going to open this
window where they can potentially have three, four,
five, guys, that are actually good Hills, also a 28 year old
undersized speed receiver, like that could be bad in two years,
like that could be like really bad.
Like, you know, like we can't get out of this contract, like
in two years, you could be in a position with Hill.
It's like We can't get out of the contract this year, or next
year, right? I don't know what, you know
what, he's basically, signed a three-year deal with the
dolphins, but who knows what? The chief said on the table?
It's that type of thing where you're like, it's kind of kills
our cap. You know, he's dealing with
hamstring issues, whatever it is at age, 29, 30 that tends to
crop up. It's like, it's pretty
dangerous. Move to sign a guy like that.
The other really interesting thing.
And this is still the, I mean, this is an AFC, a seat rate
today. But everyone's made a big deal
about how they have seized added all this talent, but we were
talking or I was thrown out like, the Bangles and Chargers
is really intriguing teams, obviously, you know, Watson and
Cleveland. Now is another one, the Chiefs
now trading Hill. I mean, I don't know how
intriguing this makes a dolphins, but I think it makes
them somewhat inter. I mean, I think this animation
to interesting the bills. Obviously, I mean, obviously,
you look at that. And see, it's Rogers.
And Brady, you were just talk when you were saying, like, the
Packers are Kind of getting a little weird with where they're
at when like, how long is Rogers gonna be around and like, how
long this bread, he can be ready, almost retired like and
then the Rams ended up winning the Super Bowl this year but
like the NFC like who's the next team that's going to become up?
And then I seek a someone's gonna have to like who's going
to be the four seed in the NFC this year's like the Cowboys.
But then the Cowboys need to figure it out.
Yeah, yeah. I don't know what the Cowboys.
I mean, the Cowboys draft Garrett Wilson or, you know, one
of the many wide receivers who are very interesting in this
draft and then they shed the Zeke contract after this year,
you know, they could be looking pretty nice entry.
Next year, I don't have a ton of optimism for him.
This year is like a Super Bowl Contender, but like, you know, I
think quietly they could kind of do a quick rebuild around deck.
It's looking at the odds to win the Francois the seventh best
odds in the NFC is the Vikings. And in the AFC it's the Ravens
like yeah Ravens. Yeah.
The Ravens are better team than probably the third but whose I
guess probably fourth best in the NFC who's fourth.
Best in the ANSI. Niners Niners in Cowboys are
pretty close and then there's like a drop off to the
Cardinals. And then there's a big drop off
to the Vikings. And then there's a huge drop off
to the like, the eagles and Saints schools.
Yeah, let us sing. Gonna be the next interesting.
T like no, they're not a bad spot.
Ha ha ha. Sorry.
Let's fix. But it's not happening.
Yeah, it is. It's wild to like with the
Packers. If you have most sports books I
was poking around into a, we're live on.
This will guess they're still like top five in Super Bowl.
Futures odds. And I wish I'm like, what did
you say? You wish you could short it, ya
like it. If there was a two-way Market it
would be like that would be so yeah.
Who's The Packers are top five in Futures odds like to win the
Super Bowl at. How is that happening?
I don't get it there. Decimate has AB C's that bad and
it's one game. Yeah, they're also.
When the conference have to be right up there with, I mean, how
confident are you in the box or any of the other team?
The Rams. I'm not confident.
The Rams will be as good next year.
It's got I think I'd take the Rams over the Packers right now,
that's terrible, that's fair. Sometimes these books are slow
moving because like, there's not a huge incentive for them to be
super right in this direction. Like, if people are gonna pay,
yeah, pay the rake and and bet the the Packers Plus for her
like I'm sure it'll get longer. But it's, they have to be the
third not going to get beat on it.
You can put the Rams out of them, but they have to be third,
right? Would you put the nine?
Yeah, no. I think they're close to the
Niners but I think I think the Hackers are probably third, but
I think the Niners are somewhat close.
Yeah. I don't know, I guess the Niners
just depends on how good their quarterback is, will swell,
their quarterback. I believe is named Jimmy
Garoppolo. We're all very familiar with
having plates because they can't trade Baker.
Mayfield needs a home Baker. Mayfield does not have a team
until he finds a team. Jimmy, garoppolo's, not going
anywhere land. And there might not be any teams
that need quarterback, you the time, Baker finds the teeth.
If you told us that sentence a few weeks like a month, Ago.
That Baker can't find a team that Jimmy Garoppolo can't find
a team that all these other quarterbacks better shifted
teams and those are the ones that are left out and Mariota is
a starter again. And I mean, the only thing that
made any sense to me this entire offseason was Washington,
completely blowing it, by bringing in Carson Wentz a that
made a lot of sense. Why Jacksonville spending all
their money and not getting anything out of it.
Like they should have taken on Zeke's contract, tweeted that
like a week ago. Why does why were they trying to
do something creative and trade for Zeke and together pick hat.
Or some Washington jumping, the gun, a head of the most liquid
quarterback Market in the entire day and be like, we gotta get a
quarterback, we gotta get Carson Wentz right now, we're all never
got one if it's like, dude, wait a minute, there's gonna be more
quarterbacks available that they made more than the Colts turn
around and pay to get close. To one of they took one of the
thirds that they got from Washington and got gave it from
at right? And they upgraded you'd rather
have that right money right there, cowboy.
I'm down because what's this is capitai it goes less money.
It's like a gift. Yeah.
JW I love the entire NFL in cahoots, I'm turning their back
on Jimmy. Geez, fake Debo boosted EPA, I
mean if you would have told us or told me last July as I'm
chasing tray Lance's ATP into the tenth ninth round.
That Jimmy Garoppolo was still gonna be looking like the
starting quarterback for Spike. That I would have retired from
fantasy. I don't want to play this game.
Is what happened? Jesus?
It's true. Yeah, Jordan love behind you, be
rough. He's got to be so much worse
than Jordan love to become. Jordan, love behind, Jimmy
Garoppolo, right? So much worse than Rogers.
My God. I don't want to say Jimmy did
this on purpose, but it does seem there was reporting on
Monday that him getting shoulder surgery at the beginning of
March, played a direct effect. T' in him not being traded to
the calls because the culture like our new quarterback, can't
start throwing until July. That doesn't sound ideal.
If they've been do true that those problems before.
Yeah, so you know for Jimmy that's good, right?
Like don't you don't you want to stay in San Francisco for your
last deal and then get a free agent contracts.
You know the key he hits free agency after the year so if he
Is the starter again this year and then hits free agency.
Like that's potentially a massive win for him.
He could get like a Kirk Cousins table somewhere.
Yeah, I mean his numbers aren't going to be any better anywhere
else other than San Francisco. He's efficiency.
Numbers are going to be so good. But yeah, I mean the whole
thing's kind of fucked because true Biscay Mariota and Drew
lock like have jobs right now like they shouldn't so and yeah.
I mean, it's just wild. Do you think that you could get
Baker? Jimmy right now?
Because I like, I think Jimmy's like fine fish big.
I'm still holding out. And Baker hope I don't know
because got it. I have a little bigger, hope he
was hurt last year, he had that all remember the wind games
Leone all the wins games he's got to go to Seattle, right?
Because there's Mutual disinterest with Carolina.
So what Jimmy has got a landing Carolina?
I mean, are those the only spots that because like Pittsburgh is
probably going to take a rookie there.
You're getting heavily linked to Malik Willis and they got your
Biscay Atlanta. It seems like they're going to
go with Mariota is there? anywhere else that would acquire
either of, Jimmy, G or Baker, I think San Francisco is basically
just going to wait and hope that well I hope.
But if there is a injury to a major quarterback, when I
contending team and Jimmy's throwing again I think that's
probably how they see getting paid the most right now to.
Yeah yeah I mean it's Carolina really not going to do anything
like Baker to Carolina. I mean that seems like it makes
sense where there's like a mutual disinterest was the
report Baker knows what about Carolina and character has seen,
Matt rule coach. All this International
disinterest. I've never heard it nicely.
Good phrase. It was like when Gwyneth Paltrow
had her divorce and she called it a conscious uncoupling, it's
a dual disinterest, the new age version of it.
I did want to ask you guys how go ahead if the lines want a
quarterback they'll probably draft Willis right?
Like so. I will then have to draft him.
Number two, it does seem though that because what was it, the
eighth? Who's picking eighth?
Because they now have an interest in a quarterback.
It seems like the interesting quarterback keeps creeping up.
Well, this is gonna go Seattle's a 9, and a lot of people think
that's a key to be. I don't know whose Aid someone
hit. I think it was Jeremiah, like,
did not have Willis in the first round or something.
Which is. Yeah, crazy, but it's early
Atlanta's, a Detroit's to Atlanta.
Sense. I mean, - yeah, three.
Like I don't know. Put, don't ya, where do we want
Wells to go? If like, who does he succeed
with? Does that a lot of talk to the
Steelers? Really want him?
I think he would succeed with the Steelers.
I think that'd be my spit. Yeah, I have to trade.
Yeah, they have to trade off my sergeant up ahead of the Texans
at 13. Right.
Like if he's there at 13, they'll take them.
Yeah, AFC just gets richer if he goes to Pittsburgh.
I mean, the afc's just insane. There's just so few teams that
are like, straight bad. I did want to Circle back on the
the Dolphins, Fallout stuff because we had had lots of
conversations on here. A few weeks back about Jalen
waddle. We were kind of comparing him I
believe to CD lamb when we're talking at about some of these
wide receivers at the two three turn like where where is waddle
for you guys. Now, Now, is this a rising tide
lifts all boats or was it a volume play?
And now, we have to dock him. I initially thought it was
Rising tide lifts all boats talking through it with like our
projections team and talking through it with Pat today on the
podcast, I'm kind of out like not even a little bit.
It takes off some of the outcomes where he's just like a
thirty percent Target share guy. I don't mind.
I kind of wouldn't be surprised if he out targeted.
Tyree kill though, I don't know. Maybe I'm off there but just,
you know, with Mike McDaniel there already seems like if he
plays a similar role he did last year but but in a better scheme,
the Yaks going to go way up and now you get Tyree kale which
should help the offense in terms of scoring and also that yeah
because it should create more space for them.
I don't know. It seems like it insulates him
pretty pretty well. I do think that we're like a
little bit overly optimistic. When you know the older wide
receivers changed teams like and then we get a liver little bit
like overly pessimistic. If it doesn't like immediately
work out Julio Jones last year like we were very excited about
Julio Jones going to the Titans is ATP was still very high.
Was he like a fourth fifth round pick?
And there's some people in the community that continue to kind
of push up the olds adp's, you know.
I don't know how much bigger Could be but you know we were
like it's Julio Jones like who cares?
It's Julio Jones and I feel like that's basically going to be the
defense for Tyree kill is like people point out that, you know.
They might be fairly run-heavy in Miami and they might need one
have a connection with to a potentially downfield, and
etcetera etcetera. Like it's not great for Hill and
I think he almost has to be the more expensive like, he's got to
be like a early third round, pick at the lowest, which then
pushes waddle down. I think we're going to get a
discount on waddle. So I'm kind of inclined to take
the On as long as it's like, how can all this is the fourth
fifth. Yeah, that's what I thought.
I gotta ask what. I don't think he was gonna fall
that far, but if he doesn't, I don't know if I want to take him
in there now. Like, I don't think the third, I
don't know him and tyriq both going in the top three rounds.
Yeah, I will say they were their password of expectation was
pretty high last year and I might not have thought through
that enough and that's something again, Pat and I were talking
about on the Pod and like I was just like thinking about that
like this, the total of 10. Ms, might be down, which water
wasn't crazy efficient. So it's just sort of a bet on
him, you know, making up for some lost volume with a lot more
efficiency, which you know can be can be a little bit
dangerous, but I don't want to take them ahead of where T
Higgins was going last year. You're gonna have to easily
Tegan's was going like the fifth?
Well, no. I mean I mean he he got pushed
thing where we got pushed up to my Suite but like we weren't
taking them much earlier than late for or mid lane.
Oh, we took them what P? We took him like the 401, right?
Yeah, we're a little more aggressive than usual.
Yeah, we're a little bit more. The wide receivers man, get.
I feel like they're like, if you look at we chatting about this
in the Discord chat, but like the rounds 3 through 6 wide
receivers. Like, just the way last year
fell, like, like a lot of guys either really bumped up, where
they're not a top to top three round picks that were in that
amazing wide receivers own or they have some serious question
marks like Metcalf and Lockett who were in that zone last year
and I don't know. It's I feel like you can make a
case for waddle just because I think they competition isn't as
strong as it was last year. We were like the guys that were
going at the 45 turn were like still super good until you reach
like late five last year. Well, isn't this one of those
conversations to? And I feel like it always pops
up and I'm trying to think of a good example of it last year.
Maybe it was the Steelers. I want to say when they had the
three wide receivers going early and everyone's like something
has to give either Big Ben is way undervalued or these guys.
Overvalue didn't like the same thing.
Maybe like with the dolphins where it's like, you know,
drafting both Tyree kill and Jalen waddle in the third.
It doesn't necessarily have to mean to uh is a fifth-round
quarterback. It might just mean that one of
those guys hits in a really big way again and becomes a
first-round value. And it's spreading your bets
accordingly against both of us have been trying to free myself
of that. Freeing of like it has perfectly
reflect the QB ATP as well. That's totally smart and right.
I think I mean we've Talk in the past before about actually
actively trying to Target these teams where the the sort of
Target Log Jam holds down. Atp's, my concern is that it's
not going to hold down the ATP so they're still going to be
going near their potential ceilings.
When you look at what this offense actually is, I don't
know if that's necessarily accurate but that's the concern.
Like if he'll still going in, how far is Hogan of fall not to
out of the like the second right?
Like is he going to throw? I'm more concerned about Hill
than waddle but I might say, yeah, I want to take walk but I
agree. I would rather take water but I
want to take one on the fifth like G.
Chris G saying he's going in the fourth, fifth already like I
would love to take waddle in the fifth.
He's 40. Well the superflex he's going in
for like his superflex ATP right now is 43.
Like that's early for and superflex like the the dudes
going. You think you've got a super
Flex pulled up here that drafted before this and he went it went
Mike Evans. AJ Brown jail.
And waddle to start the fourth round and then but you know like
fifth-round. Why don't you ever was Why does
FPC ADP is 25? Over what?
Dates pan just a lasting and the last two weeks, it's 25.
I mean what was he like? He'll was 11.
Yeah, and so what my problem is not falling to the fifth round.
Yeah. I mean what I think you might be
right but I don't think it's that clear.
I think it's very possible. He could fall in the front I
don't think it's going to be is much harder to get excited about
waddle. It's like you know what's the
the huge upside scenarios? Now the thing is though like his
type of profile in a row I mean like we're already all
collectively. The industry falls in love with
these second-year wide receivers who produce massively and now
you're even more excited about this offense being Or efficient
like I think he doesn't get out of the third round.
Ultimately he shouldn't probably but that's probably fair pricing
as opposed to like I was saying I'd be happy to take him in the
fifth. I do think once like projections
hit in the summer and stuff that there's risk that people are
like, wait, I want to take a step back on Miami's offense
like we're a few hours after the trade, but give it, give it some
time. Give it a couple months.
What running back, what is the creep up?
This is this is the team that people will let.
Let one of them slide. I don't know.
It'll be interesting. Resting is 3/4 turn where I
think that's where I'm at were, like, I don't like that, but
I'll take him there. I'll kind of mix, but I won't
take them there, too. I'm not hammering him there.
Yeah, I just like, I don't really feel like I'm taking him
ahead of Elijah more, I think, See, I know deep, I think
everything's kind of close. I think I think I'd rather more
really. Yeah, so when you have that I
got I mean it's very close but there but there's like, I guess
like there's a lot like you can make, there's going to be a lot
of volatility. I think in the wide receivers, I
don't know, maybe the market gets groupthink and there's not,
but like you're going to be able to make cases for guys like as
early as wide receiver 12 and as late as wide receiver 25 like
the same guy and like have like a pretty reasonable argument on
both ends but it is less enticing into the 5th at wide
receiver. As you start to your kind of
looking at some of the other receivers are there.
I haven't actually done any kind of ranking or anything, but it's
not a sexy rights. Maybe it's better than I
thought. I just felt like last year I was
so confident in like the Rams guys the Seahawks guys, both the
Bangles guys it just felt a little bit better to me.
We still get DJ more in that range.
So still you TJ Mariah and then like Brady coming back keeps
like Evans and God when like pretty firmly and play in a more
Cooper's now, I mean he's in that range.
A pretty solid pick tied to watch.
Yeah. Judy and Judy's like for sure
never so maybe it's not as bad as I thought.
It's just I don't know, maybe the fourth fifth feels good I
guess like the third, the third round dick feels a little bit
tougher. Yeah yeah.
What's also interesting about the Dolphins wide receivers now?
And I was thinking of, kind of ATP teammate comps from last
year I could see waddle and tyriq going in similar spots
that CD lamb in a Mari did wear heels hugging the two.
Three turn. May be getting a little inched
up and then waddle as the Amari floating in the mid to late
third. Those guys were a very
attractive stack. I even know our guy Christian,
the chat would sometimes go out of his way to try to set up a 2
3. Turn with both of those guys
knowing Dak was affordable. I think the interesting thing is
is, do you guys get excited about a to a double stack with
those guys or is that where you're picking your poison on?
Them in trying to hit the guy that breaks out and I think the
latter for me but what I was going to tie in with that is
this idea that we mentioned the Bangles a minute ago to with
both Higgins and Chase both the Bengals.
And the Cowboys the discussion last year was largely centered
on their expected, pass rate, being potentially
league-leading, potentially top five.
Very, very, a lot of volume in an efficient passing game is a
dolphin. We only you'd be the one to
answer this other Dolphins as a team going to be a team that you
kind of mentioned that their past. - all kind of come down
but like are they going to be a team that we as a community?
Not us on the show because I think we would be more likely to
draft both Hill and waddle in the third round and play for
upside. But as a community, as a
community, are people going to be excited about the potential
pass rate and the potential success of their past.
Right. Right because a to yeah I don't
know I feel like I'm not sure with it with the markets going
to do, they're like how they're going to react in terms of the
password into a people seem to be pretty anti to.
I feel like as a general assignment and I mean I do kind
of want a bat on a prospect that was like a decent Prospect who
like hasn't been bad. It just hasn't been good.
And also the coaching shift is like I mean San Francisco just
churned out the most efficient quite like you look at the last
four or five years like the leaders in yards per attempt.
It's Anyone on San Francisco and I'm checking down Miami was plus
two point one percent and password over expectation they
threw the ball. 62.6% of the time they're expected pass rate
with sixty point five percent of the time, but that expected pass
rate was like pretty much League average.
So, I don't know, I might not fall off as much as we think.
It's, I don't know, I don't know what.
Man. Danny McDaniels going to do.
I feel like it could go both ways like you but like that's
where you get, big hits is just betting on situations with
uncertainty and, you know, No coaching shift there plus a it
could be incredible. Yes.
Yeah. For both of these types of
players, it could be absolutely incredible.
I think the, the question of like whether they're worth
investing in, I mean, I I'm I'll tell you right now, I'm super
excited about Remo start suddenly because defenses are
not going to be able to, they're going to have to keep safeties
back and now you're going to get mustard actually having space in
the running game. That like that's a 0 RB Target.
I want to I want to take a shot at now like yeah I'm looking at
something cheap options in this offense.
Ruth. You could be a really
interesting offense. I'm also a little bit concerned
about McDaniel, like, I think he's awesome and I hope he's
really good. But there's other coaches, I've
been excited about young coaches.
That haven't necessarily been really good.
And how much of it was Callahan because Kyle she has been such a
good coach for a long time. Yeah, 100%.
I also think he's talked openly about like how important the Run
game is. And it's like one of those
things where they they're not always asking him to talk about
how important the Run game and he's and he's like let me tell
you how important the Run game is.
So I do think, like, I bet they're like - 3 %, maybe like -
for, but I think they're going to be like a not a run first
team but like a borderline run-heavy team.
But I also do think they'll be an efficient offense.
I also think to his not been bad to has been accurate to his
accuracy is a strength. He just doesn't throw downfield
as much as we'd like, but it does remind me like it's a
different sort of situation but it reminds me kind of like
philosophically of the the Ravens building around the more
Jackson a little bit where they like bring in a coach.
Who's going to build an offense that suits in really well.
And he's got weapons now that like I think are going to like
if the whole point of building are all friends around to is
going to be to generate yards after catch on a lot of
intermediate throws. And then to challenge the
defense deep and kind of like give to a make to feel a little
bit more comfortable. Throwing deep like Tyree kill
will do that and you're going to get a ton of yak out of him if
he's you know they're using him on well-designed plays that work
like we see with the 49ers you're gonna get a tummy ache
out of Him and waddle, and it seems like they're they're
focused on the offensive line, which was just a disaster.
And I do think it's unfair to say like to, we can't throw deep
when they have the 32nd right pass blocking line.
Like that's going to have an effect particularly on deep
throws. Should we get some of these
ideas on their feet? Hop in a draft here, Dolphins
stack both High big board, but superflex on Underdog.
I've only done slow drafts of these.
I've been hopping into these since I got back from my trip,
so I'm excited to do a live one. We got a fun Live Crew here,
there will be bickering, there will be a live one with time for
Pat, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It feels, it feels good to be back and Senior guys, as faces.
Let's let's start off on a positive note here.
Before you begin some outfits, lays it in off the it's nice,
it's nicely, only said something nice for all the dumb things
about today. It is, I can already tell this
to be a friends and family draft here tonight.
So that means Jalen waddle at 112 and so five friends and
family draft could be beneficial for it.
I was talking to Herzig about this.
And I didn't realize like it when I was making my rankings
and I'm glad he checked him but you only need two wide
receivers. Like that's a massive shift.
He says the wide receiver Market is like everyone's overdrafting
wide receivers like by like a rather insane.
Like it's just such a massive shift from three.
It is and I think tight ends are a value, you know, because that
started that having points in the tight end position is more
valuable and like you know so I've been I've been trying to
get if there's a pocket in the fourth round.
Like the late 3rd to 4th round where you can pretty reliably
get a tight end. Yeah.
And like where are you guys at on?
I mean, just the basic question of, you know, after the top few
guys are there, are you still chasing quarterback in the mid
to end of the first round? Like we're going to be in this
spot at 17. Like is this a quarterback pick
or is this top skill position right in the I think it's a
quarter beverage, it depends how many quarterbacks go top six,
right? You will get straight up locked
out of quarterback. Like I have in I've dead teams
and it's like dead. The team is dead by like around
70. Like I'm not gonna win this
league. I've Matt Ryan Baker Mayfield,
Matt Correll and like Drew lock on a team.
Those are like my quarterbacks I think I took some this is a
family draft and you are there's like a tear of six quarterbacks
and they're going to go one through six after what you just
said hello jobber. Oh yeah he's gonna be gone.
Yeah that's where it's like in this drought for what they say
that it's mutually assured destruction with the
quarterbacks but what we really need is good.
Collectively we have a mutual interest of quarterbacks and
then we can all just yeah well I've blew that guy I promise you
can't really wait it out like you got to talk about like
there's just such a drop-off and then you multiply that times two
spots and and then even the teams would like really good.
Quarterbacks or taking a shower with you give her own out the
borough over deck. Let's get this Subaru.
Then the only that one of the night, I guess you could make
the case about the deck receivers, but you generally
miss out on Chase here, but Higgins becomes pretty viable to
grab as a stack. I could see deck having a good
yard. I feel like that was a little
undervalued last year and now he's got even more, you know,
which of quarterbacks the best value right now.
And I'm not even kidding. Why are you laughing so hard?
It's Brady. Oh yeah, Brady's going is QB 16
when I last update? Maybe that's a little bit stale.
Like, I mean, two weeks ago, I was trying to get past to take
Brady about QB, 40, but he wouldn't let me that was
retired. Do you even know how this works?
Yeah. That was a big.
I just remember the one point where you were like you like
broke my god seriously. Like I can't tell if this is a
bit. I think it's a good but I can't
really tell. I think I buy for on my side,
too. I was on an island now.
Yeah, he didn't want bread either at all.
Yeah, yeah. And then where are you guys
still a little bit better? It shouldn't because we were
really wrong. Are you guys willing to Kick the
Can down the road on qb2? Or is this just an arms race
here? I like kicking a can on qb2
because you're not going to get locked out and you can get like
a really good skill player here. I mean, it's not much different
than like anchor running back and you can take three more
cubies Slater. And but yeah, we have a chance
to get a top. Seven skill dry.
Yeah, so yeah, we got, we got some nice targets here.
I've tried to debated. What level trolling?
I want to be yet, but um, do you want to take Trail Ends right
now? I mean.
Oh, okay. If I think we're to the delay,
pie mean, just in Jefferson's is smash, right?
If we can get them. Yes.
But if he goes, I mean maybe I would go Watson here Watson.
I think would probably be the best pick actual right Jefferson
goes. I hope that wasn't a timeout,
flaw. You guys want to do Watson any
other? I mean, I wouldn't mind a
Claire. I will just say hecklers been
falling. I got him at like pick 24 in
another one. I don't know if that happens
here. I'm I'm fine with Watson hurts.
Brady really? Yeah.
Hertz is gone. Okay?
I right, yeah, Brady when I do agree with you, I just I just
saw the ATP IV. Brady goes immediately, but just
based on ATP and I wasn't even thinking about a suspension.
He's gonna get suspended for after year.
Yeah yeah. I mean I don't know why I wasn't
thinking about it but that's Brady's a better pick than
Watson. That's a good.
Yeah. Brady's better pick Camp.
Well, you live in, you learn folks.
Yeah, I I mean someone had a funny comment about how I'm
already. Pushing the wide receivers down.
Yeah. It's I do just like was right.
Do you like the early like getting a good early running
back is is more important when you only have the two wide
receivers spots to fill. Yeah.
And you can do that like, you
know, McCaffrey usually goes much later.
I got McCaffrey pull it. I think I got them at like, the
2006 or something, right? I think that that superflex
makes it increasingly less important to take a good running
back early. It's interesting.
That's a good point about the two receiver element but I think
at best, it's a wash. I don't think any I think you
can do know, it's a big deal because you're I mean it's a
whole spot throughout the entire season like it's a pretty huge
deal because it's kind of the same running back strategy.
You would have in the superflex possible spot.
There's a lot of quarterbacks that go higher in this draft.
Yeah, and I think that like should come a little bit more at
the expense of wide receiver and then you're running backs like
weird, round 3, we can still go to, you know, running back like
it just well. Okay but it was you are be
Works. Normally and wide receiver is a
whole Spot for the whole year that it gets removed.
But QB superflex gets added zero, a comparing wide receiver
to quarterback. The, I'm comparing wide receiver
to running back right now. I'm just lots of stayed the
same. I'm talking about in reference
to you saying there's a whole other spot at the other
positions quarterback is To me just replacing that wide
receiver slot. So it's the same sort of the
rest of your lineup can still cover.
The running back points is sort of what I'm trying to get up.
Right. But the scarcity of the wide
receiver position changes dramatically.
And there's just less room for the wide receiver points to get
into your into your lineup. Yeah, that's a big part of it,
for sure, there's less scarcity, you think at wide receiver
because of that, I mean you're starting a hole down a whole
wide receiver. I'm not talking to Super Flex
pot I'm talking like literally you start to wide receivers
instead of 3? Yeah like no I hear what you're
saying. Yeah I was making it a related
point but different one but like so obviously like running back
you can kind of treat the same as like you would if you re like
a hyper fragile and lichen on superflex, right?
Like you only want you don't want more running backs like but
you can take lots of wide receivers.
Seriously. But you do have to take
quarterbacks in these spots as well, so I'm just saying it kind
of off-center, I mean, yeah, we already got two quarters.
Yeah. Yeah, one and a half, you still
have to get wide receiver depth is sort of my point.
I still think that's important but I want it.
Yeah. Like, getting a good one.
I think, like, that's almost like while I take the running
back early, because you still want to smash wide receiver with
death like, all right? So what we're going to do you,
like here Nagi mix in chub, DeAndre Swift, gives us a stack
of sorts. But why is Swift solo?
You mean my name? I feel pretty good about Nixon
with the o-line and that often we have Borough.
That's a good girl telling the. All right, let's do it.
I would take Swift over him without burrow personal.
Yeah. I mean they're both you really,
really good. Yeah, I feel mixing like I just
like being tied to the Cincinnati offense like he was
really good last year. Now you've bolstered the
offensive line and burrow is another year removed from the
knee injury and you got the whole gang together for a second
year. It feels pretty safe but I know
the past catching is like obviously a huge W-4 Swift.
They're going to do a whole stretch in the middle of the
Season where they just run the ball excessively for no reason
and we're gonna lose our minds. Yeah absolutely.
Yeah. if I can go ahead, I am interested to see kind of like
what their play calling is butt. Christian flaw are two non 0 and
Billy, Joe, we have multiple teams who have not taken a
quarterback yet, and then lots of teams who have taken to
quarterback. So interesting dichotomy there.
What's there at quarterback? Quarterback now is down to you.
There's some names. There's some guys with a pulse
Kirk, Trevor, Lawrence Tannehill, to Max.
Zack Wilson, Matt Ryan. It is yeah, it is just such a
shift in upside though if you're looking to our should be gone.
I would think so. I think you should be gone at
this point. And these these drafts now that
they have Tyree kill. Yeah.
But it's not like, it's not like they trickle, right?
It's just a once the tier break it, people have not taken
another quarterback, so I think once the Bandit comes off of
this next, tier he'll go. He'll probably the guy who goes
first. because I mean I feel like he should be closer to at
least in between, he's not with all those other guys is he I
know we've, no, I agree. I think those other guys, but
here, the top of the list, but flaw could have a pretty sick
team here. If he gets to a to a to Tyreke
stack, JT Justin Jefferson star. That's pretty nice.
That's interesting lie.
Only because you said, you, you guys have Hill and waddle pretty
high. Is that based on your like,
somewhat pretty pretty heavily based on your projections right
now? You're inking.
So yeah, comes out that way. Like I like the think Pete was
talking about with like, the core Back not lining up with the
wide receiver ATP. I mean, some of that's just such
junk because like, like, Pittsburgh last year was like,
the guys were going to get a ton of receptions, right?
Like I had nothing and this year, like you get two guys that
pretty highly concentrated the offense and quarterback.
We don't expect to run that much, like I don't know.
It's that we don't have waddle. Inhale is like first two round
picks, but we have them like both, like, pretty solidly,
like, but I'm just saying when the, when the math of your team
projection comes out to, with them that Hi to.
It's what you just described is the Pittsburgh situation.
Yeah, a little bit less but yeah, like I mean, we had bad
nowhere last year but we have two eyes like the best of this
group. I like in, like not like Not
Another, Not Like way above. Pretty sure flaws Auto drafting.
Now, if you guys want to push in on the Bangles with t.i., think
Higgins makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I would go with this stack
here. Yeah.
I was gonna say pit. He'd be a sexy pic, but I think,
oh, I, I know who wished exact stroke?
I did you hear? They're gonna fucking kill me.
I know. Who should take next round?
Wow, I've I don't let me look at the board.
See if I can figure out. No, no, I'm just
Huge right now. I just like, I just wanted to
like really lean into it, like our first draft of the Season
together. Let's see, Casey likes Chris.
Geez team zero. Quarterback strategy through 44,
Chris. See, I've done this, and it's
not, I've not enjoyed it. Let's see how it goes.
I'm like super interested to see how some of these things turn
out because like, I don't have a high degree of confidence in the
Quarter exactly how the quarterback stuff.
I feel like you should not be doing that but I am.
If it is managed, if we've Managed, IT be a little bit
different because I feel like you're locking in a little bit
more edge with your skill players but like with better
there's a waiver wire. Yeah.
Like with best ball we're like we can like kind of cushion.
What do you think we McCaffrey on?
You guys, we talked about this a little bit a couple weeks ago.
But what do you think about if you do that kind of training
like 0 or B and winding up with like five or six core?
Acts like having a really weird build where you're really trying
to volume it because it is a two quarterback situation.
Yeah, I don't know. I heard they just said he's done
like five quarterback. Sometimes the hard part is like
I still think like your kapton you're upset.
Like some of those guys just can't score more than like x
amount of points. It's like almost like you're
going to put together like consistent scores by still think
you're going to bleed, a lot of points.
But yeah, I think, and you have to hit rookies in that five, you
have to have, you know, some type of upside or even back.
Ups that you think have upside if an injury happens or
something I've thrown your said in.
There is like, I didn't do this. Well,
I mean, obviously that not easy to predict, but so, here's if
we're, we want to talk about this, I've never admitted this
to anybody but about a week ago and it did occur to me.
Maybe Mason Rudolph would be worth drafting in one of these
because mr. Biscuit really does.
Suck God. I just like, I bought some guys
that can be zeros. Yeah, they probably are, but
they're not any, who is Ish? Yeah, we're on the clock.
Actually. I don't, I think there might be
some running backs better, but I'll get like four nuts adp's,
like way too low. And it's like not adjusted yet
like it. I would probably take for a net
over these guests to be honest. If there was ever a room to wait
on fournette, it's this one. Do we five seconds?
Are you guys think bottle, grease?
All I heard Bruce Hall. Fine.
I pray like for nuts like knocking on Route we just out on
sake on couldn't he be a beneficial?
You got round one. You know, those other guys I
think we're fine, I wrote a somewhat positive thing.
I've I read it, it was positive but it was like it was you think
did you feel that I was thinking in my head?
God damn it. Leon is going to be projecting
him in round 1. I guess feel your teeth like
gridding against each other as you wrote that and like you kind
of ended it with with like kind of like almost undoing the
positive things that you had said like your final conclusion
was like Was almost like something like I have to say
this but like I don't really believe it.
I'm glad that it's drugs or in conclusion for dude, he's like I
mean, he's just like a like a walking 20 points per game.
Wow, look at this, the chat revolting against us.
Gibson was the pick, this entry paying the rake.
Willis says to Arby's before two wide receivers thought this was
a ship chasing draft, they hate it.
Thanks, we're gonna get what? I think those like we really are
like now can't really. I guess I should say, we can't
take Lenny but like you kind of like doing the two running backs
early and they're like waiting a bit thing.
And so it's like almost gone receiver there.
We were gonna go over there who won money but these comments, I
don't think. I understand how good Breeze
Hall is pad. You want to tell them how to
breathe, all those bristles are really good prospects.
I mean, no one really thought he was all that fast, but he was a
college Workhorse. He's a capable receiver and it
was expected that he would go in the second round, but it was a
little unsure because the class was like a little like Isaiah
Spiller or briefs. All like how are they going to
shake out Isaiah spill around like 462 so like goodbye you're
not in the second round it really has come down to Kenneth
Walker and Bruce Hall and hold on the way Sean put that 139
yeah he was like a mr. David Montgomery range now he
looks like Adrian Peterson athletically yeah yeah he's like
he's are much faster version. Version of like David Montgomery
and Josh Jacobs. Can you bring up is actually
pretty terrible? Yeah or it could be a faster
version of Cam Akers if you'd be really good.
Yeah I think he's going to go in at least the third.
Maybe the second. I mean do we stack the second
round though? Do we get the the stabbing?
We gotta do this stack like as a chiropractor.
I think you got it. Yeah, we got it right?
Like yeah. Anything to get them re Leone's
roll, I didn't even bring it up in fantasy, drafts, I think by
August res Hall, might be a second if at worst a third-round
pick in, I think. Oh Gibby.
I think will be a second run on FL, pick and a third round
fantasy pick. Yeah, I mean that's a fancy
Bachchan. Any bags now are just like Like
the landing spots are just scary now.
Like today's NFL, I don't know, but yeah.
Although the teams don't seem to like like it's feels like every
year A Team. Like we didn't think the Colts
were going to take a running back State more than Mac at the
time where we didn't think that. Yeah.
So draft a running back, which didn't work out, but that was
that's, that's not on. Well, it is on them for drafting
see th but it's not in the situation.
I don't know. What are the situations, like,
where are you? Who do you think?
Takes, let's say, Two running backs.
Go in the second round, where you think they go to Kansas City
to have one. That would be great.
Let's see.
I mean, what if they just throw in the bag on CH and like, he's
a backup? Yeah, I mean, he's probably
that's what they're doing. But it's like if guys lasted a
second round there's like more variants on like a team that
doesn't need a running back, taking him and like him being in
the right spot. That's truth.
That's either like a real. I don't know shitty team or his
shitty team, doesn't really matter that much.
They feed him the ball. I kind of like to see him in
Atlanta with Mariota adding a little bit of that Russian
quarterback. Efficiency to the ground game.
I think I can I think Atlanta still a good landing spot even
though it's not a good team. I agree.
Um for the people listening to audio our team right now through
six, Joe Borough, DeShaun Watson, Joe Mixon, T Higgins
briefs Hall, Amari Cooper, so we got both of those Stacks Joe
Mixon. Our big bet on the Bangles and
then a brief halt. Sprinkled in there.
Almost up. Here in the seventh round, it's
Tina. What's better?
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high tide, the blame for that tight.
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Schultz. I feel like he's been
overlooked, he should be like, I had a daughter and like, you
know, I like got her God, I had to perficient.
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End eight right now. We have them a headache.
We have got him and got her like, back to back but we We
have Schultz ahead. I like Schultz quite a bit.
I think they're going to throw a lot.
There's less tired competition, he's clearly their top tight end
is not splitting with anyone. You think he's part of the
reason they were willing to get a move on from our end be thin.
It receiver and Cedric Wilson like he stepped up the luckiest
good these like it I guess. Get the case for Goddard is like
he has that like high-end ceiling that Schultz probably
doesn't have just like on a flutter system athleticism and
yards per hour on. He's over two years per hour on
It's like rare, it's rare for a tight end, very limited routes
and passing volume on that team last year.
But helps like, skew the / route numbers a little bit.
Like the, remember how bad the some of their games are
negative, fifteen percent passing rate.
There was a lot of ways yet. There was limited passing volume
on that team, but he wasn't seeing limited route.
Share on the team. If you had really high real
chair for tight end. Hmm.
Here's the number one. I feel like you guys know better
than me like when to take a tight and it seems like seems
like any of these. He's three tight ends, like are
all pretty close. Like, I would take Sutton or one
of the Titan, I would take shots if you guys want to, also I do
like shelves, scratching a preference.
I'm down. I'm down with what either of
those or I like Hawkinson still to.
Like so I kind of feel like maybe to the receiver.
You like most? All right, I heard Hawkinson so
I took it. Also, I need to we're not in
drafting shape. This is.
Yeah, they weren't strapped the receivers down, like, this is
kind of a spot where I'm, like, I see a guy that's like someone
I like sudden here. I mean, I think you, I think we
were right, Leone the getting the receiver there and then
taking whatever of the tight ends came back.
Was what have been really? Yeah, sudden salad.
I think I need to boost sudden an R-rated son, feels like a
real value. I think JuJu's this isn't it.
And guys, like JuJu's got to be close.
Gretchen wasn't this point who I like, I like, I thought I'm on
Rob was fine there to too little.
What's the gone, for a little Kobe?
I'm on, the the Hawkinson pick isn't?
I feel like I've heard, Sean say that.
He feels like Hawken. Should be should be higher up
than where he comes right now. The sun's right?
I think I've hurt, I can't recall specifically to be
perfectly honest but I think I've heard him still be pretty.
He optimistic about them going forward.
Yeah, I love how confident that these guys are that, we're
paying the rake and a 12-team lake.
It really is. It is it is it?
But I think people do have a hard time because they get so
anchored to even like attend pick ahead of a teepee thing
when ultimately, it's meaningless in the macro, but we
wanted people to detach from that.
You might want to start to be at some point.
Is there any They're gone. It's Carson Wentz in the leak.
Will Hitman Hitman here? Yeah, well, I think we want door
and take a leak Willis Malik. Well, as is like, Really
exciting. And he's I think he's probably
gonna have scored Jared. Are we concerned at all that?
We don't have any Watson. Seems that Watson's going to be
suspended and the leeks. Not going to start the year.
We are concerned about that, but what option do?
Yeah, that's a concern. But okay, I'm gonna win or do we
want to not one? Okay.
Okay, take more equipment. I guess Mariota we could try to
leave work to get a starter. We should probably take it.
There's a chance Malik will starts right away or is it like
definitely not? Not know, I think it's dirty,
good chance. Yeah, I think it's like, I take
him with you still does this, is there like, he's raw?
He, we got to sit. I know that like, Lance went to
a spot. He literally set the whole year,
but most of the time, it's like he needs to develop and then
they're like oh we're going to have to play.
Yeah, especially if it's like Seattle and they never do
anything else with Drew lock like will start day one.
Yeah. Right.
Are they really gonna start Drew lock or like, how many games is
Mariota can be able to hold them off?
Two seasons is awesome, tools extension.
I'll give him two quarters, dude.
I'm excited about Mariota starting again.
I'm gonna get it on. Yeah, I can tell there's been a
lot of Mariota comments. I know, I asked, I asked kitchen
today to set the line at are the odds on how many games Mariota
starts this year. And he said 15.
So, there's some must decide I just like that people are not
paying attention to him apparently where he's going this
late, but yeah, but we can't expense chitti late, right?
Like I mean, yeah. Like there's like Baker Jamis
got off. I mean, we can just take someone
who was just going to play, so you guys pretty firmly and for
cubies is optimal in this, we need for Cuba.
We need for because we're so sure play.
If this was Brady. Would you want to push it to
three? I would still like for I was
still taking for but I push the fourth, I think I did just defer
that hers. He told me, he usually takes
four and he's probably his nose back in the day before it was
shorter drafts, the data when there was like, Emma felt ends
at Roto virus and stuff. When they were always writing
stuff and I use to edit it, edit the best will stuff the data
would show that three. Cubies did provide an advantage
over to we've seen over the last few years.
It's not true. And the only you've been great
work on that especially because you need a lot of receivers.
Yes, I think so. That's because you don't have
enough rounds but like get an extra week or that other extra
quarterback ever given week when their scores can fluctuate based
on sort of just team success. I think it adds up over the
course of the season. I also think there's some of the
quarterback separation play into that.
We're like the teams that are drafting three, don't have one
of the high-end quarterbacks and it's like actually an edge now.
So it's like It's a weird spot where in superflex, though,
we're like, you're multiplying the risk of a quarterback
getting hurt or missing games or down, we like by two spots.
It's like, I don't know. For see and how much, what's our
total roster size here 20? Yeah.
It's like treating it like running backs in my mind like
yeah, I think form a potential whining and like you're drafting
less wide receivers which we already talked about like right.
Like just because there's a whole life spot to fill its like
to less wide receivers to take, we gotta get up Seaver, we're
back. What is this late for lock is
lock it, is this? Okay, well I could rock it like
yeah, I'm good with both of those.
Sure. Picked a Gretsch break.
It Locker. Sounds like we only like socket.
I'm gone. You but like I don't I don't
feel super star. I don't think I feel strong.
You Tony. God damn it.
You got the big that we decided on five seconds after I think
one time we've changed every time I just like There's no
enthusiasm for a locket that's why I was like we can't we can't
take this pic but no one lock it projects while for us right now,
but I'm just like super concerned that their Drew locks
god-awful Pete Carroll's god-awful it could just go south
in a hurry. Wait, I just realized that the
market seems like they have not chilled.
I'm DK Metcalf but they've chilled at unlock it like, that
seems weird to me. Also, lots of pics are playing
for a stack. The person for Seattle Chiklis.
It's totally a market for Exception thing that the oh I
love that Willis Lockett stack. But the perception is it lock it
was more tied to Russ and what Russ did well and that stuff.
And then metcalf's just a physical freak that could
overcome quarterback play. Right?
I mean yeah I mean I guess we saw that with Gino little bit
but with such Salt most ample. Yeah.
I also think that's unfair to lock it.
Who's just like really good. He's a really good.
Yeah. Yeah.
They're Gap. Is just like what did Metcalf
going this? Like, I mean, I mean what it's
like a 45 round Gap, like if that seems insane to me, So
either Metcalf went way too early or lock it when too late
or a little bit of both. I think probably a little both,
probably a little bow. All right so we guess we're
pretty balanced structurally at this point.
Should we just hit the rookie running back?
She'll kind of Walker. Kenneth Walker goes too late
man. His drop positions, like locked
in. Like love that he tested really.
Well, he's really good to down Runner.
Someone's gonna someone's me. Happy to add him in the NFL.
I love this call Burks would have been another one out of
thought about for. There he goes.
Let's hit the rookies now, man. I think the running back makes
more sense in the receiver to I like you.
I think you guys are totally right.
Yeah, I would argue perks might not play enough early or
whatever, right? If Kenneth Walker goes I think
Gary Wilson. Also like there's an argument he
should go ahead of them. I have Burke's ahead but I don't
have any issues with it. People having Wilson at the wide
receiver want, he's really really good Prospect.
Let's do it. Let's do Walker.
Yeah. We got the two good running
backs in this class, that's usually a good thing.
I like my running backs. The youngest we already took Joe
Mixon. He was like, I don't know, 28, I
think he's on ARP right now but we only still thinks he's good.
So we have has he that old know Excel 26.
Probably. I don't think he's doing that.
He's almost 26. Yeah let's make a bet but yeah
we should definitely start hitting the wide receiver depth
like I'm with band the wide receiver death still matters.
I just think we you can play it a little more even to start like
we did but like we need to start hitting wide receiver depth for
sure here. Yeah let's say I want to check
in on our 2020 Million Dollar Man Cristian Kirk coming up.
Wow. All the money, right?
Yeah. Chris is rocking exact Wilson
Jared Goff. I mean, at least got a some
starters there. Let's see here.
Who is our other? I am really interested to see
how that plays out. Beyond targets.
He's like, this is what kind of a pet was saying, like, Okay, so
he's got two stars, which seems fine, but like, he's gonna have
a tough time, getting the third and fourth guy that play now,
right? And you're losing a lot of
points on those guys weekly upside compared to the teams
that took qbq be. I mean, we kind of didn't, but
if we would have went burrow, Brady, we would just have so
many more quarterback points every week.
It is a long I do think I'm doing and he's riskier than us
like he's more fragile if one of his quarterbacks gets hurts then
we are right? Yeah I think if you're doing
this in like high volume, it might make sense to just like
always take one of picket Corral or howl because like Those guys,
I think the way they the way the draft sets up is like, my guess
is that one? To two of?
Those guys goes in the second round and like, potentially is a
career back up, but like one to two of them will go in the first
round and potentially the start of this year.
And if you just kind of like mix up your in then rip the promise
Ritter's also kind of in that makes you probably need to
sprinkle them in. But like what do you think about
Boyd to just keep hammering on what I like?
Boy, that is price. What about the will for
Cleveland double step? I will for that up.
Yeah, we could have sat on him but let's just let's just do it.
I'm not, he might land in Casey to and just be an objectively
way better pick than this thanks Lloyd.
Looks like because to that uh yeah Boyd's just for fun, let's
just pretend and Watson's like in suspended in this team, looks
pretty good. But if you were to make the
someone who's a masochist, I should look up the players, we
have drafted the most over the years, obviously Lavista is
going to be up there high, but I I think will Fuller might even
rival this guy for the player. We've drafted the most on
stream. Well I mean Ronald Jones has
obviously been drafted many times as well but I actually
think alert we tapered off of. It's got to be someone.
That would be the biggest I think he's right.
It's got to be one of these loci guys like that.
We all just instantly agree on and just click and move on where
as usual. There's some there's some
disagree, there's like Rogers, like my guy like Fuller isn't
anyone's guy, he's just like a guy.
We all like yeah. And he's like always price.
Well enough to just blow it, you're gonna we're gonna click
Fuller. Well this is that's one of those
things that happens over a multitude of drafts is like even
if we're just like around and a half higher than the market on
him. Like when you do is shit to the
draft, you're just gonna end up with him over and over and over.
Yeah, I think for might be accurate.
I think that might be the correct answer.
Yeah, I think it probably is. That's who I would bet.
Who was who was dragging, our are, we gotta, we gotta side
somebody off to watch all of our drafts in history.
It's just the fuck knows. What, what year did you do?
The most traps? That probably plays a pretty
pretty heavy. Last year, we were did the last
year gas for sure and we took a lot of Fuller.
Yeah, but I, but I do think it just like every year, the
context for Fuller was something we talked Ourselves into.
All right, we are going by went up again good.
Oh no, we're just about to be out flaws gonna time out.
I'm pretty sure they've been Auto drafting so I assume Kenny
pickets off the board and then and then we'll be, I would love
Jacoby Myers here. That's Bobby, Mylene.
I'm fine with Jacoby. I'm fine with Gala day.
I don't know. I think these receivers like all
seem. Okay.
So if someone has definitely could grow a little more Jacoby
like has some legitimate targets per out wrong like Alpha type of
side and it's I'm good with Jacoby.
Yeah I like it. He's been really good since he's
been in the league. So yeah, that's usually good
thing. I'm still like having a visceral
reaction to Kendrick born scoring two touchdowns.
And Bullshit game. And Not being good for ffp.
See Playoff Challenge when we took Jacoby?
Oh, please don't utter the words, FPC, Playoff Challenge?
We still need to heal. We need at least six months,
more of healing. There's always next year.
Fellas, it's always in. Cannot wait for next year.
I really love it though. I'm still wearing which it makes
beer got about eight more months very much, and but I can wait.
Ha ha ha. Now we took a lot of time and
emotional investment out of us. The first literally, the day.
Not, what was this doing here, two and a half games.
We like I felt like we had the nuts too.
Yeah, just like screenshotting your Millie maker winning.
See, do 1/4 into the main sleigh.
Yeah, this was a good idea. It all went to hell was that San
Francisco win over Dallas? It was just all turned and just
turn on us, which is how it happened last year, right?
The Pittsburgh game. Yeah.
Get the one game that goes away from kind of every heavy
exposure you have. We also, we had like three
players that we had substantial exposure to score their
seasonal. Oh, CD lamb, nausea, Zach ertz
also add a ton of T Higgins who went off in the Super Bowl.
It's somehow at that end up being bad for us like honestly
handsome the tournament, our whole cup, I would say our
number one stands in the whole tournament was T Higgins, and
the T against scores like 50 points.
And we're like, no, because he just happened to not be on our
best. Two teams, right?
Also, we bagged on nausea Harris.
All Year and then we buy the top and then the stock just dumps,
right? Right?
After this right service, right? I had stayed so strong.
We're so many coin, flips and like positions, we just had to
take positions that just I mean that's going to happen.
We knew that brought me back about what we we have 1% go bad.
What's that? Running back was so bad which we
kind of knew going in. We played a ton of like only to
running back teams to but it's the he still had to take someone
then fucking The Singletary. Not that.
It ended up really mattering but Lantern.
You want 0, single, tear it up with to line up.
So that he was like, I don't know how much you guys push, the
double stacks and triple Stacks, but in a joke who could be in
play What about language is that same idea?
But we things back. I need an essential that he
might end up Becca. Take long taking joke, - she's
gone, isn't he? What's there at tight at?
I guess that's a matter if we're not a well-oiled machine right
now. Yeah, I mean I guess we could
have died. I've got her really high
relative to the market. What's give us the ball case on
Earth. I just think I mean he's going
as like T20 right now. Wasn't he like a top?
I mean I just been basically drafted him where he was going
before he got hurt watches. Yeah.
Head of ATP and Conklin is gone study.
Yeah conquers gone. Yeah.
Yeah I think it's a small target tree.
It's a pretty efficient passing game and he's like supposed to
have like a little bit of individual upside feelings a
year older. More injury concerns, because he
got banged up again. I mean, he should I think you
should be going almost higher than last year.
I mean obviously you got hurt him very much but yeah, I also
think that Irv it's like a lot of projection with him.
He never really did. It is basically that he's like
really young, he's drafted highly and there's opportunity.
If you give him basically what Conklin's role was the end of
the season, like he's pretty clearly a top 15 tight end.
Yeah, the Conklin was Yeah. No.
I like her. I just, I would be like, if
earth started like skyrocketing Navy ATP, I would be out.
But yeah, I like more is JW, has a random question for us.
Take on the Philly, back wheel, Back Field, he says he has a ton
of gain well, so far, and totally whiffing on Sanders.
This point. Should I be balancing out atp's
are just so far apart? Well, the I could actually, We
see one of the running backs going here.
Like them adding Bruce hauler. Kenneth Walker.
I think would make sense. We know they want to run the
ball a lot. Yeah, I think I don't have
achieved the wrong take. I like I think Sanders is going
late enough that if you're drafting, a lot of teams seems
like you might want to sprinkle. But Leone is this where you make
a case for Julio Jones? Nah, why not I'm still in on
Julio. What's your where you hoping he
lands actually I got the tight spot from which was not a good
fit for him. What is there a QB we still
wanted a fourth QB right? Is there a keep you might want
to know we could get a lock lock it lock is a very good pic here.
I think I like lock yeah I like it too.
Alright, let's do it. And then we can be done.
Yeah, I think lock makes a ton of sense.
We need a guy who's starting for sure.
It's a stack that actually was like, probably a pretty big
leverage pick for him to last to us.
You think right? As you don't believe it just two
guys. Don't think Seattle will try to
find someone else or draft, iqb or so.
They drop. They might drift Willis and then
we get the lock possibly guess, I don't really know.
There's still so much uncertainty.
It's kind of crazy. I don't really know.
It feels like somewhat say, I guess saves the wrong word but
like I think it's greater than fifty percent, that locks
Starting the year, locks block like really sucks, though.
He's slowly bad, really bad quarterback.
Who like I would, if lot, let's say they don't bring in any
competition, I would bet that you know, Smith is starting by
the end of the year. We lock like really sucks.
He's really bad. Yeah, I I don't even know if I
would put it at 50%. He starts week one and I think
to that point, there's probably even when in the scenarios where
does, there's probably a really solid chance that he Make it to
like midseason because he's just so bad.
Well, because we'd like not only is he sick, but he's still a
good bet with this. Well, he's a great bet for us,
especially assuming that like, Watson's suspension is the
beginning of the Season which would, which it should be.
So the beginning of the season games are the most important for
this team, but like lock, he's terrible.
He's he's just an off quarterback, but it's also he's
awful in the ways that are going to piss Pete.
Carroll off. Yeah.
If you're trying to do the Fence and and run the ball and play
conservative. The last quarterback, almost in
the entire league that you want is true lock.
Carol's gonna have no patience for for some of that's gonna
hate him. He's gonna hate your luck.
I'm glad we talked ourselves into this bag.
Pat had talked me into Julio but he went Yeah, let's see here.
Oh we got our guy, I believe wilshere is in the chat here.
Ripping off wide receivers Woods, a lot of a Gala day,
Davis, Julio. Oh man, how did I want?
Yeah, we got robbed on the sky. I had an error when I did, like
the very first set of Underdog Draft ranks or Sky, more was
like 40th overall and then I autograph.
Yeah, your Jordi. Gusseted, pushing his ATP up as
far as possible. Dude.
Once he goes to the Chiefs at the end of the first round, its
wheels up for Sky more. Yeah.
We had that tweet today. I mean, the Chiefs half to
invest in a wide receiver, right?
Like that's a yes. Kevin.
Oh, they don't even, they can't even like feel the team right
now. They definitely not a Cornell
pal fan, but I mean, that could be worth Julio ends up.
Yeah, Julio. I mean man talk about a team.
Like I know it's it's like could be just so dusty.
If Kelsey's reaching the age Club, you're like Juju Kelsey
and Julio. I guess it could work.
Well you still have to draft somebody like yeah, like if you
have Julio one-year deal like super cheap, What's our new hold
right now? He was he was a pretty good last
year ago we only have heard running backs and it's a classic
4352. We do running backs and
receivers. You want to take like a
mckissick here Raja? Yo, what are you doing with your
guys? Take on Donovan, people's Jones.
I mean, how many I think these spiders kill?
Eat a. I think it's gonna end up being
a rotational guy. Once they bring in Fallout over,
I was kind of a neat him. I need a name guys the song
about these lower but Roadshow all right.
You want him. Where we why are we taking right
now? Joe.
I don't know because I ask for names.
Dude she's starting running back.
Ronald Jones mean the chief starting running back still
available and Jerick McKinnon. Like I thought the rumor is that
they're going to let him walk. Yeah, I've been told he was at
Mahomes his bachelor party, so, I don't know.
Yes, but Davis and I love reason was that it wasn't about.
Yeah, I was the wedding and everyone was there.
No. But I heard he's at the Bachelor
party. Additionally, that's what Davis.
I think Davis Told Me Maybe was an Eco.
You have a Miko's been saying the wedding thing because we
that's what we looked at, okay? Oh, you want to if I want to
stay like super on brand like we could totally Drive Jamison
Crowder in this to David. Yes.
I've always asked you about Davis.
He Crowder earlier probably be going before Isaiah?
Yes he should. Yeah, before I was a Mackenzie,
no question he didn't and Josh have been talking about this.
Because idea Mackenzie their promotion for Underdog as a
Mackenzie is going to make a less than the best ball 3 Mania
winner, this year. Wow.
So that's the rule. You can't draft a player who's
going to make less than the tournament.
You're in a few win it. I was stunned that he didn't get
more money. Yeah.
Especially because I feel isn't you know, that type of player 2
with. I mean, I know he's not Debo but
just that short quick Swiss army knife skill set is so in Vogue
right now I thought someone would be willing to pay.
Uncle just pay kick returners. Yeah, yeah.
All right, we getting a wide receiver.
Let's get Crowder KJ Handler sitting there too, though.
Patches. Okay, I like Palmer to.
I like that. I Handler.
I like a, I like camel more than Palmer.
All right, let's do Handler. Hamlisch, pretty fun with, with
Rossi, you know, you know, he's going to have a few of those.
Big hugs or call? Wow.
Kaz. Trying to push you too.
Take Pearman here. Really get to play the hits.
Where is he? Caught it in the initially TR
best for eggs. Come on, man.
Let's see, as did correct. Oh yeah, Chris ended up getting
his third QB there. Can he pick it in the 13th?
We'll see if he loads up on a few more flyers, James
Washington here. Now that he's on Dallas.
I'm not really, you know, on though you guys.
I'm on that. Why can't he do what cedrick
Wilson did? He plays on the outside.
So I don't think he'll be able to earn targets like Wilson did
Was Wilson, Wilson, primarily played inside, he played, yes
blue series far without whole fucking bullshit.
Where CD lamb couldn't get a Target?
Because Cedric Wilson got a live-in from this slot in the
wild-card game. We brought an anomaly for his
where he was lining up, but I guess not.
No, he have like a want to say like an 80% slot route.
We pull it up. So then what do we do?
We think then CD kicks into the slot way more.
I'm holding one percent to 90 percent slot, right?
Yeah. For like Yelp and Washington
outside. These feel like longer drafts.
I mean they are I mean we've also timed out every single
round so we're not doing our best to speed the yes.
Well we also have a guy picking in front of us.
This timing out every pick every day.
This guy looks like he might be timing out now for its Everybody
gets the draft dopamine rush through about 13 Rounds and then
it's like, you know what, it's March starts and that's I'm
Penny over cars for sure, but the way they're talking it's
sounds like it's not as clear as it should be granted.
It's just all talk and it is March but all right.
We are on the Oso. We deal, we still have Odell D,
PJ & Palmer. I'm down to get Palmer.
You liked him before, right? Leone, I like Palmer.
I don't know why I like pretty good contingent Value Plus like
you might just walk into some big plays and yeah.
So alright, we are through 17 rounds.
So three more pics. We have for cubies Borough.
DeShaun Watson, Malik Willis and Drew lock for running backs.
Joe Mixon, Bruce Hall. Kenneth Walker, Ronald Jones,
seven wide receivers T Higgins. Amari Cooper, Tyler Lockett,
William Fuller, Jacoby Myers KJ Hammer.
Joshua Palmer in two tight ends Hawkinson in the joke.
Ooh it seemed kind of sucks guy's.
So is it one running back one wide receiver to finish or just
to or two wide receivers. We have three.
X 0, we have three pegs. Yeah.
Like a couple of the running backs on the board.
So two wide receivers in a running back.
That's what I would think. Yeah, yeah.
Did we say that? You have some running backs?
Do you like? Yeah, yeah.
I mean I like I like well, they've really just one now, but
I like Terrence Johnson. Hmm, more Cleveland or
Cleveland, and he's like, really good.
And I know hot, I guess they probably got a point where the
probably not cutting hunt, but I don't know if they need to, you
know, figure out some wide receiver.
Contract Hunt is totally cuttable.
Can you go to the running back board?
Yeah. Keyshawn Von Shoma are not.
It's not pretty is Tre sermon totally dead.
No, I think Sony they just recently Jeff Wilson which is an
ideal woman. But isn't that somewhat ideal
compared to because? Right?
Right now, it's Mitchell Wilson. And And sermon, right, right?
Yeah, you're right. That means better than them
drafting someone about the best they could could have hoped for.
Oh crap. I mean it's if we're talking
about like he's starting at like a very bad spot.
Yeah, I'm good with sermon. I'm at, I'm fine with you honest
with you. What's up with white areas?
Where if we're not real confident in running back,
what's up with wide receiver right now?
Odell Marv, DeVante, Parker all the Vets Calloway Pringle, and
Chicago Shepherds. A, I don't want to do Harvey's
like it'll do. I mean Marvin Jones like not
that bad at this point, right? Like it.
Oh yeah. The new coaching staff.
Which scares me? What about Parker?
Parker's. Not going to be in?
Miami will be somewhere else. Yeah, he's probably getting cut.
But I mean I would take Marv I just think it's like a good
value pick but I know it's like super boring Marva Parker you
guys can put Ben, you can break the tie.
I don't care. I'll get Leone made a case for
Marv. I went dry feet of these guys.
Here, would you would you have take a crotch that was the time
to speak up? No, it's fine.
Marv's a fun-packed. Who would you have taken?
I saw a couple quiz Walkins this way at the bottom but it wasn't
enough. It's pretty gross.
It's not good. What about Paris?
Campbell. Oh and tell, yo Brown I thought
was kind of interesting. He keeps saying he's gonna come
back and he actually has like some real upside but he might
not be able to play again. I don't know.
Maybe no one will buy in. He still like dominate targets
proud run but he was the guy I was looking at some of that was
pretty but I gotta think I think Maria was actually okay there.
I mean these guys I think someone's going to take a shot
on Antonio Brown. I mean he was still good enough
even though he's a I think Mars Bars.
Okay there. Yeah.
The way that people want receivers right now.
I don't know what you guys think.
Do you think Brown has a shot to play?
Or do you think quitting on his team in the middle of the game?
Was the last? I think Brett.
I mean I thought Brady was done though.
So I don't know. But I think Ron's done, I think
Pronto bad with the Reeds on these two.
I just want to know, I don't know idea because we don't bury
Brady, he went on TV most like sky, wouldn't threaten me.
It's like all he did was throw to you, bro.
I don't I don't that's gonna sit well with like you're going to
put your neck out for a breath. And who wants to do that?
I guess it only takes one. I mean, we have yeah, these
teams do. I mean Wide receivers are
SuperDuper crazy things that they think will help them win.
Yeah. Well like that's kind of why I
mean I it's not nearly as good obviously, DeVante Parker, but
like I've been interested in like the wide receivers who I
just don't think have a chance of sitting out the year.
Like who aren't gorgeous? Like not going to not yeah
they're not going to be free agents for all 2022.
No. We're at a point where he makes
a lot of sense where like if he was attached to basically any
team he would be going earlier than he's going right right.
And he'll be somewhere like DeVante Parker is a solid like
he's better than Emmanuel Sanders was last year.
You know what I mean? I mean, I know.
Yeah, part of that was the bills thing but it's like he's he'll
be starting for somebody. You know, I'm cool with that.
If he makes it back. Yeah.
Like you probably made too. Good of a case too early though.
Someone can take them. Yeah, that's what happens.
But I didn't, I made it too late because we could take you to my
best friend. Wow, you made it.
You made it at the worst possible time early.
And just does anyone have any takes on Foreman?
Verse chuba is their biggest about, take work for you.
You're welcome as the preferred handcuffed for McCaffrey, I
think Foreman Shuba soft. Steering.
I don't know. I've just kind of been staying
away. I've I like, I like rolling the
dice on sermon a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
I like sermon. I like sermon.
Yeah. I like swept.
The nice thing about Foreman is that or Hubbard?
Is that there is a chance of a kafir gets traded.
We can't, we can't rule out trades anymore.
Guys. This is the new NFL tomorrow
afternoon and get notifications. Pat's on its face.
Aces dreams. What are you saying?
My James White sermon. I'm fine with some garlic.
Okay, we might still be able to get James White.
James White is an interesting one though, like, because he
missed the whole year. I mean, the people were drafting
him as, like, kind of a somewhat important piece last year and
don't, you think like when they bring in for net even at even
though it seems so unlikely that that was going to work out, but
if you're trying to glean information, And from it.
Obviously, they don't really need help between the trenches.
I mean Damien and Ramon. Dre are good.
Interior, rushers, do you think it speaks to how they that them
wanting to get more of a pass-catching presence and that
guy fillers are nothing to read into their use of Brandon,
Bolden all year, should have spoken to that, like they didn't
have an answer for not having James White last year.
Yep. And happily don't Target share
per stretch. Which like, like, like James
White could have, like a 14 percent Target share in which
case, he's just a normal. Utter steel, it's harder on our
construction, because we have like, really high-ups, I'd
backs. But like, you were like more of
like a single, like, a hero, our b or 0 RB approach.
It makes sense, he would, totally.
Yeah, we probably want another Receiver, right?
Bolden also had like really strong yards per route run last
year, which is probably not related to bold and so much.
It's just that they throw their running backs when they run
routes. Right?
I think we want to receiver. I don't know who though.
I'm not even gonna fake pretend cape for AJ Green.
I mean, I would say Paris Campbell's.
A little interesting to me, but I'm also fine with the Antonio
Brown, Dart thrower. I'm done writing off these guys
who I thought were dead. Fiance Harris, is the other one
that's on that list. That like there, any rookies
that, like, could yell and Tolbert, is, what's kind of
interesting is a deep threat. I feel like I can be very
productive. Eco is saying like, if Justin
Ross somehow had like your draft capital, or he won't, I don't,
he bombed his Pro Day, although he's recovering from an injury,
maybe teams will give him credit.
Dairy Slayton is a guy. I've been taking Justin Bieber,
sings a starter for a day bolting Rock.
Yes Slayton seems. Seems okay.
I like the rookie fire angle as a historical, anomaly says here.
Ross dude, Ross. I've said this data like five
times this offseason so sorry if I'm if you've heard me say this
but I have as a true freshman LED Clemson in receiving yardage
over T, Higgins Hunter, Renfro Travis etn in a Mari, Roger for
all on that team and he led their team in receiving Arch.
I've heard enough, I just drafted him.
That's all I needed to hear a bunch of injuries since Inst but
like that was is not impressed. I mean, no, I mean that's the
reason to be in on Ross. I've keep like, I've like,
wavered on Ross, like, I've had him like, very high in my
rankings are bumping down. It just comes down to what the
NFL is going to say on him because he's right from pickiest
such a difficult path. And after his pro day I think he
might be a fifth-round pick me. I'd like a 4-6-3 40 at a
terrible. Like he just bombed it and he's
recovering. A foot injury so that doesn't
necessarily mean. He's on athletic.
In fact, he went healthy, he must be athletic to be able to
do what he did. But I don't know what NFL team
because it's not just the foot injury.
The also has this like spying. He like spine surgery, which he
missed an entire year of school for.
It's not like it's a super checkered injury resume.
Plus you have to be like And we're not sure what the
athleticism is. So it he just feels like a day,
three pick to me for those reasons.
Probably, yeah, he probably is. He's probably at nothing but
again, but the other side is there for sure.
Yeah. Produce an older D Higgins.
He was also. So what do you proficient in
yards per outrun that year as well?
Like he was awesome as a freshman, like, like a type of
guy that that were like it's going in the first round, the
NFL draft and that we are pounding the table for and
rookie draft. Like, that's how he looks as a
freshman. Look at you finish, guys team
right away. It's my new resolution for any
of our livestream. Drafts to a to name these.
So this is what we're doing here.
So final roster here, lots of miscommunication, lots of deer
timeouts. You know, it's the first first
draft of the Year. Joe burrow, DeShaun Watson,
Malik Willis Drew lock at quarterback.
Joe Mixon Bruce Hall! Kenneth Walker Ronald Jones,
Street, sermon at running back Higgins.
Amore, Lockette, Fuller, Myers, hemler Palmer, Marvin Jones.
Justin Ross at wide receiver Hawkinson in a joke.
Ooh, at tight end structurally, not too bad.
Any other takeaways here is you want to know if any of those are
alpha plays Leone we're saving the alpha plays for when it
counts. We gotta we gotta ease into
drafts easy because there's a very slight note.
All chemicals that go. We did Drew luck.
All kind of Walker. A rookie running back so those
are awful Place. Yeah.
Those are those are stocks that are going to rise there but yes,
we, you know, very much apologize for not being
razor-sharp. You know, after the craziest
free agency in trade period of our entire lifetimes in our
first live draft of the year, I do apologize Leone.
We appreciate you hopping in the saddle with us.
Looking forward to lots of drafts this summer there, it was
great. I know I'm pumped to looking
forward to running back. NFC Crush that again this year
that was so much fun. Fun.
I know we gotta be a long. Is that a slave Jamaal Charles
Jersey? Never, bad time to wear Jamaal
Charles Jersey. The best running back of all.
He was so good. How many jerseys do you have
again, Leone? Like football jerseys or any
sport football? Yeah.
Probably like 20. Wow, but like half of them are
like Terrence McGee, third quarterback for the bills 10
years ago and it was should probably one of those things
were just in your life. Then everyone for the holidays.
Like someone will get you a bills Jersey.
Each year kind of thing. Yeah.
For a while and then like I was really into collecting jerseys
and then I started buying jerseys again like somewhat
recently and I need to like what are your most recent years?
You purchases, Randy Moss, Vikings jersey.
I like to buy, I buy the classic ones when I do that's tight,
I've been wanting, like, Jerry Rice Jersey to, but I'm trying
to like, be responsible, so it's not like the best choice of
funds, that that's good. Collectible investing, you know,
Randy Moss has a legacy that that Jersey is going to age?
Well, you know, it's not like you it's a got a lot of
dispositional Jersey on the Jag your wife was a viking fan
growing up and had the Randy Moss Vikings jersey and then
when he left The Vikings I think I just got rid of it.
I was like, I don't want this anymore and I wish I always wish
I had that. I still have my old Chris Carter
Jersey, but I don't have a how last race.
Hmm. Yeah, B Leone straight.
You said you said, people can check out a joint with you and
crane drop in soon. Yeah, the podcast is op.
It's also going to be up on YouTube, but we went through all
the relevant year, two wide receivers, like, looking at the
rookie season. It's you know how to tie that in
with how they came in as prospects and basically how we
should treat them and redraft and Dynasty, Pat super
knowledgeable on that stuff. So it was great to have them on
the podcast. I definitely learned a lot.
Nice. Going to get some breaking news
podcasts with you and Sean was that one of Sean's first ever
live podcast on the road of his feet?
I don't know if I've ever seen one before, it was the first
first thing bananas, and I think so.
Yeah. I mean nice may have been I know
he's done some obviously some live spots with us and stuff on
ship chasing but yeah, on the road of his feed probably.
But yeah, well we'll keep pounding those pods out.
And if you're for some reason, not subscribe to the Gretsch sub
stack, you got to do it. If only to watch him grit his
teeth, and right about Leonard, fournette, being an okay, pick
this year. I appreciate you guys hanging
out. We have plenty of, let me oh, go
ahead. Let me just mention tomorrow.
We're doing on a good football show at for got Danny Kelly.
Kevin Cole. Nice and Rich rebar coming on to
talk the rookie quarterbacks there.
You gotta be going. Sounds like a good lineup.
All right, guys, feel free to join us.
In the Discord, you can become a YouTube member that unlocks that
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hated our draft tonight. We appreciate you for Leone our
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You got Uh, Pat and Pete will see you guys next Wednesday.
Peace.