1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,320 Hi, Mike, Shope here, getting ready to start with Pat Karine 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,080 and Davis Maddock. Happy Thanksgiving and thanks 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,200 for being a part of our show. ADP Chasing. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Next case on the docket is the same case as it's been pretty 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,560 much all year, the case of the sexy young wide receivers versus 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,960 Saquon Barkley. I wanted to find a middle name 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,960 and went to Pro Football Reference to make it more 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,040 dramatic, but couldn't. I guess he doesn't have a middle 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,640 name. It is ADP chasing. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,960 We'll talk about everything that's happened so far in week 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,920 12 and see what happens. Thanks for being a part of our 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,200 show. This is November 25th, 2024. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,160 I'm Mike with Pat and Davis. This is ADP chasing. 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,400 ADP chasing is for when you watch ship chasing and you go 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,560 these guys are just football guys and the targets for outrun 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,800 leagues. That's going to be really nice 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,320 actually back in if it's Austinet could. 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,040 Stare into our crystal ball. close your eyes. 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,200 You know all your entries are going to lose anyway. 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,760 Yeah. That's fair. 21 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,400 This is a Dusvan show. Anti cabal. 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,239 It's anti the best ball thought leader. 23 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,520 I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,600 lot of both of these guys. It's the most. 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,840 Disgusting thing you can make but. 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:21,520 Man, all right, so just a wonderful day for us to be doing 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,200 the ADP chasing with the the morning after Saquon Barkley. 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:33,960 I I took a Saquon lower on Underdog last night, but it was 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,400 under, it was under 20 1/2 rush attempts, which is so many 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,440 rushes, so many rushes. He got there easily. 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,400 And, and and Oh yeah, I mean, he had 13 rushes at the end of the 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,200 first half. I was like, well, and, and the 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,600 other legs were, were were spicy Peps, you know, Puka Alt hires 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,000 A.J. Brown Alt hires. 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,640 No sweat. What's the worst feeling today, 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:03,720 Barkley Lower or Maclaurin I? Mean, I don't I if you had 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,240 Maclaurin lowers yesterday, you're you're you're having a. 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Bad. Time you're having you're having 39 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,160 a bad. Time, at least you didn't have, 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,120 at least you didn't have Washington to cover it. 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:16,800 I mean, that was right, yeah. 4/4 for 16 and 0 was Maclaurin 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,360 until that play. I guess that's. 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,400 Crazy. Anyway, boys, happy 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,240 Thanksgiving. I know you both have, I think 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,680 Davis and I know Pat has a young daughter, Vivian. 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,920 My niece's name is Vivian. It'll be a big Thanksgiving here 47 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:35,200 in a few days, but so hopefully you guys have big plans this 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,960 week that are, I want to say outside of football or is that 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,000 wrong to say? I mean, I Thanksgiving is my 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,040 favorite holiday. It's it's the greatest American 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,080 holiday because there are no religious overtones. 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,280 You don't have to deal. If you're not a religious 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,720 person, you don't have to deal with your religious family. 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,120 And if you are religious person, you don't have to deal with 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,680 your, your heretic in laws, you know, and making, making a 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,720 mockery of it. It it's it's a true day where we 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,600 can all agree it's a. Heroic picking law. 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,360 I will say that that my in laws don't seem to not me in law. 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,320 My it's more my aunts and uncles. 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,320 My my blood aunts and uncles seems to still have plenty of 61 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:17,760 issues to talk. Through on Thanksgiving? 62 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,560 How can you have an issue on Thanksgiving? 63 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:22,800 Yeah, no. Thanksgiving is has been very 64 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,120 contentious over the years. What's the one O 1 as in terms 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,760 of what's the best time to eat? Right after the Lions game, 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,760 that's it's always when, it's always when you want to eat. 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,320 You always want to eat after the Lions game. 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,880 Central time? Eastern Time? 69 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Pacific Time? Maybe football does factor in 70 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,320 here. Football should factor in and 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,920 that's been that's been a potential issue over the years 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,400 for me is that it's never factored in really to our 73 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,120 schedule in the big, the big family events. 74 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,560 So when I was younger, we're just like, you know, usually 75 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,400 when like the game is coming down to the wire, it's time to 76 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,760 eat. So yeah, I, I think after that, 77 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,280 that Lions game makes a ton of sense. 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,680 What time I'm pulling that up? So that's like, that's like 1:32 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,720 PM Central time in. General Yeah. 80 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,240 So the line the the Cowboys game starts at 1:30 Eastern. 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,079 Now that's I think the problem. Is 4/30. 82 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:20,720 Time. Yeah, 4:30 Eastern, right? 83 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,680 Oh, oh, Oh, yeah, 13130 Pacific. My bet, the 4:30 Eastern. 84 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,600 Yeah, that's ideal. If you could if you could get 85 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,360 the meal started at like 4. Now now magic carp and chat is 86 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,360 saying that his in laws don't believe in football. 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,480 So my in laws are not football people at all. 88 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,640 They they live in Saint Louis. So people in Saint Louis, when 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,240 the Rams left, they basically decided football over. 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,240 We don't care. We're not watching it. 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,920 No one here cares. It's it's a bizarre experience 92 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,000 where most people either don't watch football or only watch 93 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,280 college football. So basically I've just had to be 94 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:57,720 like, look, you guys don't have to care, but I, these games are 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,960 on. I'm, I'm watching. 96 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,560 This is the key part of my Thanksgiving experience. 97 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,280 And I'm not, I'm not not having the games. 98 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:09,240 And my brother-in-law is my, my married, my through marriage, 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,400 brother in laws are football people. 100 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,560 So we, we, we figured it out. But yeah, my in laws do not 101 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,640 care. So in 2019, the Bills were, I 102 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,880 mean, 2017, they made the play offs first time and Forever 18. 103 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,840 They draft Allen, they win six games. 104 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,640 We're all sort of waiting for NFCE schedule. 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,160 You know, there's Super Bowl rematches. 106 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,080 For what it's worth, many years later, what will the prime time 107 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,560 schedule look like? And I kind of always assumed 108 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,600 every team got at least one Thursday night game. 109 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,320 So 2019 the schedule comes out and the Bills play only Sunday 110 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,400 afternoon except Thanksgiving in Dallas. 111 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,160 And so like, well, that we'll take it. 112 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,000 There's no prime time, but it's something it's some relevance. 113 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,640 Thanksgiving can't believe they got it. 114 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,160 So on one hand, it was like a step forward for the Bills, who 115 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,920 then, I mean, last year they played a record 7 night games 116 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,360 because they got the last one flex. 117 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,560 You're not even supposed to be able to do that. 19 they win in 118 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,680 there. They go to Dallas for 119 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,720 Thanksgiving. Daddy has to leave, which is the 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,520 first I host the post game show. First time ever I've had to work 121 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,600 on Thanksgiving. I don't have to work nights with 122 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,120 this team Thanksgiving whatever my was here. 123 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,480 This is they're getting kick off Bill's Cowboys. 124 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,920 He's like just don't embarrass us. 125 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,880 You know, that's kind of like the Bills fan mantra or ethos. 126 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,040 You know, they just just don't make it so bad. 127 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,240 They win that game. They get Thanksgiving in New 128 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,720 Orleans, then they get Thanksgiving in Detroit. 129 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,880 They win these games too. Not this year, but it's become 130 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,440 kind of a common thing for them to play on Thanksgiving and it's 131 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,760 cool. This year has a chance to be 132 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,800 really bad for like sort of the the viewers with Chicago, 133 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,600 Detroit, maybe that stays close then you. 134 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,720 Have I I think that game's going to be good and I actually think 135 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,960 the Dallas game is going to be good too, because I think Dallas 136 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,840 showed us they're so crappy. Anyone can hang with them. 137 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Jayden Daniels, James Daniels was brutal in that game. 138 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,200 Let's let's not because he got 33 fantasy points. 139 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,120 You're not going to realize he was, he was bad, dude. 140 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,480 He he, he missed a bunch of throws. 141 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,840 It was like classic Cliff kicks, Barry. 142 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Like it was, it was only a a good game because of the 143 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,440 Cowboys. Yeah, we have the the social 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,920 stuff of everyone just like absolutely apoplectic about 145 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,920 Cliff and people making fun of the the meltdowns, you know, 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,160 second-half meltdowns for Cliff and everything. 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,640 So yeah, I mean that that like ending which obviously was still 148 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,120 devastating for the Commanders, but it moves the devastation 149 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,560 from the offense to them missing extra point of them not going 150 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,760 for two. But I agree, I mean, before that 151 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,880 there was a lot of people were just like, what the heck is 152 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,360 going on with this offense? Dan Quinn could not wait to 153 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,680 raise that finger. He could not wait to raise that 154 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,680 one finger for the tie. He could not wait. 155 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,000 Yeah, and, and we've got, you know, potentially we've got 156 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Dabel losing the locker room. Like there's been a there's been 157 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,160 a bunch of reports of like people being of, of, you know, 158 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,680 Giants insiders being like, these dudes do not care. 159 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,320 We've got, I mean, neighbors said it, neighbors said it to 160 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,160 the media. You got to ask. 161 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,000 You got to ask Dabel about that brother. 162 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,000 And then Dabel said in his media availability today that they, 163 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,240 they talked, you know, behind. Closed doors. 164 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,480 I'll I'll tell you this right now, if you have a sports book, 165 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,200 if you're in a legal sports betting state that offers this 166 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,320 first reception in giant Cowboys, whatever the number, 167 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,600 whatever the number is on neighbors, it's it. 168 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,640 I bet that at minus, I bet it at -500. 169 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:42,960 I think I think that that's good. 170 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,840 That's good to -5. 100 you need first target man, you need first 171 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,400 target. First play isn't, isn't he 172 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,160 right? Isn't he right? 173 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,720 I mean, OK, they can't pass protect, OK? 174 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,200 They're only running so many plays. 175 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Isn't the wide receiver almost always right in that case? 176 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Like just throw him a screen pass in the beginning of the 177 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,320 game. You don't have this particular, 178 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,960 you don't have this a problem to this extent anyway, not to make 179 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,600 it always about the Bills, but like with Sammy Watkins, that 180 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,400 drove me crazy. Like you, you traded first round 181 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,800 picks to get them. Why isn't your, you know, in the 182 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,920 first series 1 pass to him and get him in space. 183 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,680 So I think Neighbors has a point. 184 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,760 So are we saying the issue is that Xavier worthy is not 185 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,360 selfish enough? We don't have do we need do we 186 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,720 need Xavier worthy to be going to the media and be like look, 187 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,080 man, all all all due respect, all due respect to to Jujus 188 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,520 Mischuster, throw me, throw me the got Dang ball. 189 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,280 I I would really like if worthy would be a little if it feels. 190 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,800 Like is this the only reason receivers bust is that they just 191 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,560 aren't? Loud enough, you know who knew 192 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:51,560 they weren't there was. Tony, if he if he was just 193 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:53,320 better at the media, you know what they're going to start. 194 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:55,280 You can't do that in Kansas City. 195 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,720 Come on. I mean no you. 196 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,720 Can't. Can you imagine if one of these 197 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,280 guys they'd be, they would be in Narnia so fast. 198 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,960 Like if if a non Kelsey player said something to the media 199 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,680 about needing the ball more, we would never see them again. 200 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,440 It it would just be, it would be like, dude, you think I won't 201 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,840 replace you with Taekwon Thornton? 202 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,640 Watch me watch it will happen immediately. 203 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,640 Like, I mean, I think that's actually why they prefer 204 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,200 bringing in these veterans. That's like why they have P 205 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Ryan. That's why it's like Khalil 206 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,000 Herbert would be better than P Ryan for them. 207 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,720 But they're like, no, dude, we want someone who's 30 and all. 208 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,000 All they care about is winning games. 209 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,800 They do not care about getting the ball at all. 210 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Even when it came to Tony, they didn't draft him, so it wasn't 211 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,520 even like there was no internal pressure you. 212 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:43,800 Know they treated a third round pick for him though and then the 213 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,880 following year they were like we got our number one and Tony so 214 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,520 they did. That was a weird one. 215 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,200 But there was there was no sunk cost fallacy with Tony where 216 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,840 after he he blew. I mean, so he. 217 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,680 Blows the lion he blows. The Lions game, yeah, there was 218 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:01,440 the first year, but he I mean, he blows the he blows the Lions 219 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,360 game. And at that point the the great 220 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,280 clip of Mahomes on the side, that being like, I just told 221 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,960 you, I just told you don't fumble. 222 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,560 And like after that point, I mean, he was a healthy scratch 223 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:14,320 in the Super. Bowl healthy. 224 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,960 Scratch in the Super Bowl. Yeah. 225 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,600 He didn't have a shot of making the roster. 226 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,120 They were like, you're gone. You're you're done. 227 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,720 Yeah, they were like the year after. 228 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,040 He was like the star of the Super Bowl the year after. 229 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,040 But that's right. Yeah. 230 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:29,000 Yeah. Well, it is moving on to Week 13 231 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,200 and Thanksgiving. And in terms of best ball, I was 232 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,200 watching Pete this morning tilting about Abdullah not 233 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,760 getting a couple more receiving yards in the Raiders Denver game 234 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,080 and he slipped in and I, I don't not believe him. 235 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,120 He's like, I'm usually pretty Zen when it comes to these 236 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,160 sweats. I don't know, Pat and then 237 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,200 Davis, where are you guys at with sort of how this year 238 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,640 feels? I know we've all had, you know, 239 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,000 Berkeley is a big topic today and we haven't really touched on 240 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,280 that yet, but we're all having our own internal struggles. 241 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,960 Are we at a point yet where we're sort of like used to it 242 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,720 and a little bit more relaxed than we'd like to be or just 243 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,440 what is a Sunday like you guys? My whole face off because I'm 244 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,240 also running bad in my DFS stuff has actually been OK, but I'm 245 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,880 running like horribly bad in the underdog battle Royale games. 246 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,520 Like Josh Jacobs was my most drafted player yesterday. 247 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,800 It should have been like a legitimate like print money 248 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,200 button and like immediate just like didn't have the right 249 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,320 teams, didn't have the right combos like immediate loss like 250 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,640 that or the week before. I'm 1 of 98 users who has a St. 251 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Brown Taysom Hill, Jared Goff team. 252 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,280 Don't get don't even get close there. 253 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,960 Like it just is. It's I'm just tilting my whole 254 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,800 face off like every Sunday. Not very Zen. 255 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,640 I've been somewhere in the middle because I've had I've had 256 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,840 a lot of DF this last DFS week was was one of those one of a 257 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,800 handful of weeks I've had where like I got really close. 258 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,000 Like I finished top 50 in the power sweep last week with or 259 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,320 this, you know, yesterday with Jacobs and Hawkinson and 260 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,440 McBride. And I just did like a over stack 261 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,360 of that Seattle game. And so like the pieces that 262 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,280 didn't get there for me, we're like all correlated like like 263 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Gino DKI had JSN who was good, but I had Kenneth Walker and 264 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,440 then I McBride coming back. So I did like a big stack of 265 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,760 that game and you're like, if this game just goes off like a 266 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,040 little more like it almost was enough. 267 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:39,480 So I've had a number of those, but I've had some, I had one 268 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,240 good week as well. So DFS has not been like super 269 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,520 tilting. You kind of take that for what 270 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,800 it's worth that that's going to happen. 271 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,440 DFS is just by its nature set up to be tilting. 272 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,720 Like losing in DFS is like, I don't know, whatever. 273 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,840 Right, right, you almost want those weeks because you're like, 274 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,680 all right, at least I'm like kind of on stuff. 275 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,280 You know, it's still tilting though. 276 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,600 The most tilting thing for me has honestly been the ship cast 277 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,360 stuff where we just like keep having like these horrible 278 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,080 beats. So the last week we, we got 279 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,960 right with the, with hitting a core. 280 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,800 So that was good as far as basketball goes. 281 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,320 I mean, early on, incredibly tilted, incredibly tilted 282 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,560 because one you're dealing with like the reality that it will 283 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,920 hit you every year that you're going to be, you're going to be 284 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,200 much worse at predicting the future than it feels like you 285 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,040 should be right in the, in the summer, you're like, I'm going 286 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,200 to get everything right. That will just be, it'll be 287 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,520 easy. I'll just be right about 288 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,760 everything, you know, and then you're, you know, obviously 289 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,440 that's not going to pan out. And then you're this year I was 290 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,240 wrong about a lot more stuff than I was hoping and ran bad on 291 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,520 some stuff that I felt good at, like the Rice injury. 292 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,760 No, get it's like whatever you're gonna lose, you're gonna 293 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,440 you're gonna have a bunch of bad opinions anyways, but running 294 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,360 bad on the stuff you were right about is insolvable. 295 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,120 It's really rough. Tolerable. 296 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,400 Like Chase Brown is the best pick on the fucking board and 297 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,480 it's not gonna matter for me because Rashi Rice got tackled 298 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,440 and destroyed by his own quarterback which is very hard 299 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,400 to stomach. And then the stuff you're wrong 300 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,480 about, you don't want to be like too wrong about. 301 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,400 But this this year, it's been clear for weeks that we were 302 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,560 going to be really wrong about Saquon. 303 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,120 So, you know, and I've said people, we don't like this 304 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,320 framing, but I've said like with Saquon, you know, I was kind of 305 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,320 like trying to figure out the range of outcomes. 306 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,200 And it's like, how does this guy beat me? 307 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,320 Like he beats me with like an insane rushing efficiency 308 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,640 season. And I'm just like not going to 309 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,000 bet on like you have to have, but he just has to be cheaper if 310 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,520 that's the if that's the out and he's not catching that many 311 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,720 passes and he scored 10 touchdowns. 312 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,000 It's not been right. But he's having like the insane 313 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,200 rushing efficiency season. So I definitely underpriced the 314 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,200 probability of that. I think that's like very obvious 315 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,840 that, you know, the upside for him purely as a efficient rusher 316 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,560 was much higher than I was thinking it was. 317 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,800 But that's like that's my cope on Saquon. 318 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,040 It's like, at least it hit in the thin way that I was like, I 319 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,120 don't know. If this is the path for it, then 320 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,320 I guess I'm good betting. Against that that is true. 321 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,160 Like at least if if he was getting the one yard touchdowns 322 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,080 too. That would be way more tilting. 323 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,440 Then it would be like, well, you're just an idiot and you 324 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,360 just don't understand football. But like the the thesis of like, 325 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,400 well, he's not really going to catch that many passes and he's 326 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,480 not going to get the goal and work. 327 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,640 That's all that's all happened. They actually, it's insane. 328 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,560 They actively sub out Saquon Barkley inside the 10 yard line 329 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,480 for Kenneth Gainwell. They do this. 330 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,600 One, it could have been worse. Yesterday, Kenneth Gainwell had 331 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,560 a nice touchdown run. Yeah, 1313 yard touchdown. 332 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,160 Yeah, like if the if that's Saquon, I mean, we're even more 333 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,720 buried. Like it's. 334 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,640 I mean he he could legitimately have a 30 touchdown season if if 335 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,080 they had wanted him to have that. 336 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Right, but they but they use the push push and they have other 337 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,400 stuff. So yeah, I think the the, The 338 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,400 funny thing too with the Saquon stuff is that like I've checked 339 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,800 my advance rate getting heading into that game and I checked my 340 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,000 advance rate after and it was like one team. 341 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:10,160 Like it's already baked in. Like the Saquon teams are 342 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,280 advancing and they, and I don't have many of them. 343 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:16,040 And it's like the two teams advance from every every week. 344 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,680 So like, I'm just hoping to be the other one. 345 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,680 You know what I mean? The Chase, the Chase team and 346 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,839 the Barclay team get to advance and then sometimes in some pods 347 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:26,560 those are going to be the same team and well. 348 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,520 That's the same thing. Honestly, I'd rather them be the 349 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,840 same team. Yeah, you'd rather them be the 350 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:31,760 same team. Yeah. 351 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,120 Yeah, we'll see. I think the problem with Barkley 352 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:37,640 is that his matchups in the fancy playoffs are so juicy. 353 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,720 Washington, Dallas. I mean, it's, it's basically 354 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:46,120 like The thing is, though, this is such unique to to myself. 355 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:52,400 Two weeks ago I played Barkley over Kamara in DFS in cash and 356 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,080 and Barkley got eight points and I just remember thinking this 357 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,640 could only happen to me. This could really the the week, 358 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,600 the week that Barkley gets eight points. 359 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,160 It it really and then it. Played in that week too I think. 360 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,760 Yeah, to watch him. To watch him RIP off 35 points 361 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,920 or whatever, yeah. It's it's annoying, it's close 362 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,160 to the end for advancing, and that's what matters first. 363 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,040 But it's Washington and Dallas after they play the Steelers. 364 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,760 Yeah, in Week 15, which is not great. 365 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,640 I don't know. I'm going to be, I'm going to be 366 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,440 wearing an Arthur Smith jersey. Whatever he, whatever he wears 367 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:31,680 on the sidelines, I'm just going to mimic. 368 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,720 I just, I was, I wasn't on with you, you know, until last week 369 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,240 and, but I was watching every week and, you know, trying to 370 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,120 figure out the best process and strategy for best ball mania. 371 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,720 And it was you, you, you might tell me I was a little bit naive 372 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,960 here, I don't know. But it was a little bit too 373 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,560 tempting late if you had the late draft positions, 10/11/12 374 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,800 to go with Puka and Harrison, you know, just sort of to 375 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,800 correlate that right away. You want wide receivers. 376 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,520 And if I can get not every time, but if I can get that 377 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,160 correlation right, it is all that matters. 378 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,160 I've been told you want to do that and Barkley, I mean Chase 379 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,040 and Barkley, that's fine. That's on the you know what, 4-5 380 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,360 position maybe if you get to Barkley there or in the middle 381 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,160 at least. I don't know. 382 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,560 Is is there any we're all we're talking on? 383 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,360 I Pat, I I was listening to you and Eric Beinfor sort of going 384 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:27,320 over like we're all doing, you know, what did we get, what was 385 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,120 a mistake and what was just a fluke, that kind of stuff. 386 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,680 What about right now? How do you feel when it comes to 387 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,200 correlation? Is there anything we should have 388 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,520 done differently? Should we have cared less about 389 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,440 it? Philadelphia and Dallas gives 390 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,240 you lamb, but he's gone already. That's on the other end. 391 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,240 And you know, with Dallas, there weren't obviously other guys 392 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,320 until way in the middle of drafts with Dowdle or even like 393 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Brandon Cooks or somebody like that. 394 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,080 I mean, that was tough to do. So for me it was a little bit of 395 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,440 a seed as to it was a reason not to pick Barclay in those late, 396 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:03,880 you know, draft positions. So I think The funny thing about 397 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,120 all this stuff is that like, you know, and you could, I think, 398 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:13,000 argue that this is not fair or good, but like Barclays game 399 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,280 last night, like ultimately probably won't matter very much 400 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,680 because he like was already having such a crushing season. 401 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,360 So like you, if you're not advancing a Barclay team, like 402 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:25,160 you might not have any quarterbacks or like you 403 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,000 completely whip the wide receiver like he's already it'll 404 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,680 I mean, it matters, but it's not like going to be the thing that 405 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,880 we remember as defining for the season that, you know, this past 406 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,200 game against the Rams. What we will remember is 407 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,480 defining is like spike weeks and weeks 1516 and 17. 408 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,320 And so I think it's too early to say like about correlation or 409 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,320 like I think what you want, because what we're about to get 410 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,800 in a couple weeks, we're about to get the victory laps on like 411 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Ivance 50 teams or whatever. And you know, those are fun. 412 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:03,640 Like good for you, but those people will be lucky to get one 413 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,080 team to the final because it's extremely difficult to get one 414 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,960 team to the final. Even if you get spotted like 415 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,240 twice the amount of teams that you're, you know, going to get 416 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,880 by by variance, you're still really lucky to get one team to 417 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:22,600 the final. And so like it's just we don't 418 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,880 know yet like that that's in in a tournament like Basketball 419 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Mania with single week cuts, we still don't actually know what 420 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,440 we're going to look back on in 2024 and say this is what we 421 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,640 should have been drafting it. Now from a process standpoint, I 422 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,640 think we can already take some stuff away. 423 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,120 But from a results oriented like what did I want to have? 424 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,680 It's probably Barkley. It's probably Barkley given how 425 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,240 good the season's been in his schedule. 426 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,000 But we don't actually know. You know a lot of it. 427 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,920 The thing that is frustrating, not frustrating, the thing that 428 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:03,320 I can't figure out is that Barclays ADP was ahead of a 429 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:07,920 chain, but I had a chain ranked higher and a chain has been 430 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,520 awesome. A chain has been. 431 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,960 So it's like, I don't know, was that really bad? 432 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,440 Like a chain I think is like my fourth or third most drafted 433 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,880 running back or something like that. 434 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,600 It's like, well, I don't really want to do over on a chain. 435 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,280 He's been great. It's just. 436 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,160 That he, the way I try to think through stuff, it's like when I 437 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,600 looked at him, I was like, OK, the rushing efficiency is 438 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:30,760 insane. That's great. 439 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,800 You'll have to see that. But he has outs to becoming like 440 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,120 this really high end receiving option. 441 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,320 So even if I use the rushing efficiency, yeah, I can still 442 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,280 get there that way. And like that's what's happened. 443 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,160 So like the the multiple outs to a really good season thesis on 444 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,800 HN I think was correct. I mean, it almost has to be 445 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,120 correct because he it hasn't been efficient as a runner 446 00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:57,440 really. And honestly, the the the goal 447 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,240 line stuff has been at least OK. You know, he hasn't been like 448 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,400 removed from that. He scores touchdowns. 449 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,720 So yeah, no, I agree. I mean, like a chain was a guy, 450 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,560 I'm like, not only am I happy to have him, but he's a guy that 451 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,440 I'm happy to have and do have. Like the teams that I'm getting 452 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,760 through, a lot of them are a chain teams. 453 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,160 A lot of them. Are a chain a savior? 454 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,160 Yeah. Can I just follow up a a 455 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:25,200 question specific to Harrison in that 1-2 turn range this year? 456 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,760 I mean, I know this has been covered, but it seems like a lot 457 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,520 of the narrative this year, like sort of like what the cope is, 458 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,240 is well, the wide receivers all got hurt or their quarterbacks 459 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,880 got hurt like a Tyreek or a situation like that. 460 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,320 It's not true in Harrison's case. 461 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,720 And man, if there's one game I would love to have seen be 462 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,400 different yesterday, it's that game. 463 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,800 Arizona and Seattle, there's so much, you know, redraft FFPC 464 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Week 12. Come on, McBride got there. 465 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,360 But both teams where, where was the juice? 466 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,920 And it sort of puts a spotlight again on Harrison and just kind 467 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,680 of what a dud this rookie season has been. 468 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,600 I mean, relative term. But was there a mistake? 469 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,680 If you don't mind going back into this for a minute specific 470 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,240 to him? Yeah, yeah. 471 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,720 That was that was one of my preseason truth serum takes was 472 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,440 that he was being overdrafted. The idea of taking him 473 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,240 specifically ahead of Nico, I just don't I just basically 474 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,800 don't think there's any way before the fact, after the fact, 475 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:29,560 viewing what we've seen, even knowing how shitty Strout has 476 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,400 been, just don't really think there was any justification for 477 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,560 that. And that was how I drafted it. 478 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,200 I took Nico at the turn. I now I also was taking 479 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,080 pneumonia Samuel ahead of him as well. 480 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:46,080 I mean, I don't know, like do you like would would you rather 481 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,120 have pneumonia, Debo or or Marvin Harrison junior who like 482 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:54,720 has fewer question, has fewer points in like Westbrook Akini, 483 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,520 I don't know. Well, again, I think that part 484 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,520 of the allure part of Harrison was that there was not as much 485 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,000 competition with Collins and with Samuel. 486 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,120 They had both had like that question in states, which was, 487 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:11,480 you know, how how much target volume will they get, whereas 488 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,320 Harrison had McBride, but really after that, sorry Davis, I know 489 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,600 Greg Dorch, but like really after that it was kind of wide 490 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,640 open. Yeah, I was into Harrison just 491 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,120 because it's like the best wide receiver prospect we've had in a 492 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,880 long time and I didn't want to not have him. 493 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,960 But and I guess if you're if you're like thinking through the 494 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,440 Harrison thing in retrospect, it is similar to the Barkley case 495 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040 that I was not into right where you're like, what's the path? 496 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,680 What path is pretty specific, too specific. 497 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,800 It's that he's the best wide receiver rookie like in, you 498 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,640 know, generate. He's he's Jamar Chase. 499 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,680 Basically he hits the ground running because like you look at 500 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,400 CD Lamb. Remember when like CD Lamb, like 501 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,080 wasn't, you know, a dominant receiver took a few years? 502 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Pete used to call. Pete used to call him Beta Beta. 503 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,400 CD yeah, beta CD. So you get you get I think 504 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Marvin Anderson's rookie season when I look at like when I zoom 505 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,480 out and I like strip away our pre season expectations for him, 506 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,840 I think it's very promising yeah like this guy's going to be good 507 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:25,160 but we demanded that he be amazing right away, which was 508 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,840 too high. I mean, yeah, I think he was 509 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,440 overpriced for sure and probably should have, probably should 510 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,960 have recognized that in a way that I was like, hey, if you're 511 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,920 not on board with kind of demanding the specific outcome 512 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,560 for this running back, you probably shouldn't be on board 513 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,440 for demanding for a wide wide receiver either. 514 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,480 Looking up, his father went 64 for 8:30 and 8:00, and his son 515 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,240 could end up being like sort of almost exactly right there, but 516 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,320 doesn't really matter. So long ago, Debo. 517 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,480 Yep. No, I just think on Harrison, 518 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,880 like I do, I think we are almost we as a fancy community of like 519 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,960 and I'm a part of this, but like we we put too much expectations 520 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,880 on it and then we're going to view this season as like this, 521 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,800 you know, really bad season. It's not it's bad for us. 522 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:18,320 It's not bad for him. San Francisco Speaking of 523 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,360 Samuel, and now they are 5 and 6 and I think they're coming my 524 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:24,800 way for Sunday Night Football this week. 525 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,240 With or without Brock Purdy. What are we doing with the 526 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,000 49ers? I think this is the most 527 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,240 interesting puzzle right now in the NFLI. 528 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,080 Guess we have to wait on Purdy and if he's back then I think 529 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,720 it's kind of like it was, even though they're on the outside of 530 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,520 the playoff picture. Do we we're thinking about 531 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,080 maybe, do they sort of wave a white flag this year with their 532 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,200 age and the contract commitments? 533 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,200 I don't know. McCaffrey Kittle, nice day for 534 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,920 him yesterday. Ayuke's already gone. 535 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,400 And of course, Samuel, what's what are your vibes and your 536 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,920 read on the Niners? Day vibes. 537 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,320 The vibes could not be worse. I mean, let me tell you, the 538 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,400 49ers vibes could not possibly be worse. 539 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,120 Apparently Brandon Allen. By the way, this is Kyle 540 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:10,080 Shanahan reaping after he has sown. 541 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,520 Did not report to the media two weeks ago that not Kyle Allen 542 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,880 well. Talking about. 543 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,680 Bad quarterbacks that Mccaffrey's had to play with. 544 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,160 Brandon Allen broke his middle finger of his non throwing hand 545 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,840 in practice 2 weeks ago. Doesn't report it, never on the 546 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,040 practice report, never mentioned, not mentioned 547 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,240 anywhere in any of the lead up. And then the broadcast is like 548 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,440 oh dude, yeah he's playing with a broken finger on his hand. 549 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,320 So shout out to you, Kyle. You gotta find this dude. 550 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,360 He keeps, he keeps covering shit up. 551 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,320 I mean, it's, it's literally breaking the rules. 552 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,520 It is not. That is outside of the rules of 553 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,040 what the NFL wants. These I mean, if you'd let Brady 554 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,240 in the meetings, maybe he could have told you that, but I don't 555 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,680 know. Somehow that isn't allowed 556 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,800 anyway. So one of the listener or one of 557 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,400 the one of the guys in my chat of my YouTube stream yesterday 558 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,040 was telling me the story about Nick Mullens that made me 559 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,360 recontextualize the entire thing that I think about Kyle 560 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,440 Shanahan. Apparently Nick Mullins is like 561 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,160 the most dialed in backup quarterback of all time. 562 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,640 Apparently this guy after games hangs out at Levi Stadium, has 563 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,880 noise cancelling headphones on with crowd noise in and runs 564 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,480 through the entire game plan. Like makes all the throws and 565 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,080 stuff after the game is just like locked in, dialed in. 566 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Cannot wait to be called upon. And I think pretty clearly the 567 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,760 Purdy thing is just he was way better than scouts ever. 568 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,320 Yeah, like Purdy was really good. 569 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,320 Pretty. Just pretty, just a good player, 570 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,200 you know, I mean, obviously. Because you look at the system, 571 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,840 I wrote this up like with the walkthrough and stuff heading 572 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,760 into the game and I've been writing for weeks like Purdy is 573 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,440 not playing like he people think of Purdy. 574 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,480 He's not playing Garoppolo ball at no, he's. 575 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,920 Been playing great. He's been playing so good. 576 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,560 He's got a long time to throw he he moves around, he makes plays. 577 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,640 He's taking more risk like he's not. 578 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,000 This is not like a system that's producing like these constant 579 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,440 easy button throws for him. He's having to actually Sprint 580 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,920 like make plays on his own create for himself, which wasn't 581 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,840 really true as much when he started. 582 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,240 He used to play more Garoppolo ball and I mean everyone would 583 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,200 like to play Garoppolo ball. You get to be Jimmy garoppolo 584 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,160 level talent and look amazing in the numbers. 585 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,000 It's good, it's a good deal. But if you know, if you don't 586 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000 have that system, can you actually make plays on your own? 587 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,320 And Purdy's proven, I think very, very clearly that he can 588 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,160 do that. But then yes, stepping into to 589 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,280 fill the void Brandon Allen all of a sudden I think makes it 590 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,720 even clearer what Purdy was holding up for this team. 591 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,520 Here's here's something I'd like to put into the universe. 49ers 592 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,200 are eliminated from playoff contention. 593 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,120 CMC just looks like ass. He's he's clearly I don't know 594 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,080 if he's injured or if it's just it's just, you know, we're done 595 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,920 here. Which would happen to 29 year 596 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,440 old running or 28 year old running backs. 597 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,560 Imagine that Jordan, which? Is how old Saquon is going to be 598 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,200 next year when? We just imagine. 599 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,240 That we're going to take him at the one-on-one, that's what 600 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,120 then. Reverses Dobbins tonight, by the 601 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,840 way. Let's go. 602 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Yeah. Jordan Mason, who you need in 603 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,400 the fantasy football playoffs, comes all the way back. 604 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,960 Around to. Be Jordan Mason, Yeah. 605 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Fine. What do we know about advance 606 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,480 rates when it comes to Mason? Like, is he somebody? 607 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,240 I mean, I, I got to a point I, I told you, Pat, a little bit 608 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,160 later, early in the in the season and like, I caught up or 609 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,640 went even, you know, went farther than that on, on Mason. 610 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,960 But now it feels like just another guy took more dead 611 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,400 weight on the bench. 18%, so basically basically average. 612 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,960 He could be, he could be one of those guys where you're like, we 613 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,400 knew, yeah, he could be a big one. 614 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,840 And Buffalo, Chicago, then Rams, Dolphins and Lions in the 615 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,720 fantasy playoffs. It's just, I mean, yeah, 616 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,680 McCaffrey just looks bad, man. Like he just looked complete. 617 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Like no chance was he going to matter yesterday. 618 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,760 Like you turn that game on, you watch the first series and 619 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,840 you're like, oh, this is not happening. 620 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,640 Like I go I if I like like late swap to McCaffrey on a couple 621 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,080 teams because I knew he was going to be like 10% and I was 622 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,600 like, well, I immediately want to take that one back. 623 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,640 I don't, I don't like that. Should we have all known to bet 624 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,120 Green Bay? I mean, I know it's always. 625 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,440 Sort of I. Did bet Green Bay? 626 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,160 Should we have all known to do that? 627 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,240 Like on Friday after the news came out on Purdy, it was 5 1/2. 628 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,280 I don't know where it ended, but should we have all just known 629 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,360 that that was easy? I mean, that's Green Bay is not 630 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,480 exactly been crushing and ends up being just sort of an easy 631 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,120 game. I mean, we got the Bills, 632 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,440 Niners, Bills Sunday night. The game opened at three 3 1/2 633 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,600 and then it went to seven. Like is that just a Gimme for 634 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,720 the Bills or is it not that easy? 635 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,280 It's, it's probably that easy, although, you know, we just 636 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,520 don't, we just don't, no. So Bosa was out and they can't 637 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,960 really stop the run. So that I think in a way it was 638 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,440 like the Packers are like the worst team to face. 639 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,200 Like if you you know, Jordan Love's going to take deep shots. 640 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,440 God, that Christian Watson drive. 641 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,000 Christian Watson. You know, he, he, he's attacking 642 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,480 downfield. They're picking their spots. 643 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,480 They're a run heavy team. Packers have been run heavy all 644 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,000 season, not just with Willis and the the 49ers are not good 645 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,680 against the run. So you know, and then if you're, 646 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,880 if Love has time to throw, when he does drop back, you're going 647 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,120 to be in trouble. The Bills, I don't know. 648 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,520 I mean, the Bills will be interesting. 649 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,800 They've they've definitely shifted to the run more and they 650 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,440 have a solid run game, but they're not as built around the 651 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,840 run as the Packers are. They want to be, but you're 652 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,600 right, Minnesota, how about their last three weeks winning 653 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,520 in Jacksonville, then Tennessee in Chicago, three in a row on 654 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,480 the road, all competitive wins. I mean, yesterday was at least 655 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,280 that you know, Davis what what I think part of, if I may Davis's 656 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,480 appeal is like the Gil cast last night. 657 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,000 You just sort of like a ready for Davis to sort of like this 658 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,760 is the end of the world, whatever, you know, what's just 659 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,000 happened, best ball DFS, whatever it is. 660 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:16,120 So I'm in one of these FPC hard way leagues with Davis and he 661 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,719 might not want to mention it, but he's going to. 662 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,840 I think you're going to get through and you did it yesterday 663 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,880 and I want to hear if you if you remember, it's sort of like what 664 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,840 the process was on that you had. So everybody's on by for Davis's 665 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,120 team, Pat and you've got these other hard hitters in there and 666 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,560 you got there Addison, DJ Moore. So Addison comes up with 30 667 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,679 points in that game. How did that happen? 668 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,159 Hawkinson was there, Jefferson was not. 669 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,560 What were the takeaways on the? You know what to be to be 670 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,679 honest, Mike, I would have sacrificed not making the 671 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,840 playoffs in this league for one God damn. 672 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,440 Justin Jefferson 30 burger. It's really all that I ask, 673 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,800 right? Justin Jefferson having a 40 674 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,880 yard touchdown called back by like, I mean, granted it was 675 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,520 offensive pass interference, but still, it's just like, can 676 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,480 something good happen to Justin Jefferson? 677 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,400 What has he done to deserve this man? 678 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,200 It's not it's really not. It's really not fair. 679 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,080 But yeah, Mike, I, I was looking at team yesterday morning and I 680 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,240 was like, I did not plan well for these bye weeks at all 681 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,040 because it's a bangle. It was a full Bengals team, 682 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,560 Burrow, Chase Brown, T Higgins team with Darnell Mooney. 683 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,520 Like Jake Ferguson was my flex starter all year, but it I mean, 684 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,400 it will be it will be nice to have one FFPC lineup to set the 685 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,960 playoffs for. I've I've been running. 686 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,120 Actually, I think I'll probably have a couple. 687 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,440 I think, Corinne, I think you and I have a team actually that 688 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,320 we funnily need Derrick Henry tonight, which is, let me tell 689 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,040 you, a little bit of a conflicting emotion. 690 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:51,080 Co Co owning a team with with with Pat where we need Derrick 691 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,680 Henry to score a bunch of points tonight. 692 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,520 Yeah, that's always your story. That's always the story. 693 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,280 You guys with Derrick Henry is like, Oh well, somebody else 694 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,800 roped me into it. You know we had crack the only. 695 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,400 FFPC. Wasn't it the fourth things? 696 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,880 It was the 4th. This one, This one was me and 697 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,600 Pete. Pete and I were like, guys, 698 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,840 let's not be. No, no, I think I was on board. 699 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,920 I'm pretty. Let me have this Derrick Henry 700 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,080 share. I'm pretty sure I was on board. 701 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,280 That's how you guys do it. It definitely was. 702 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,600 It definitely. I'll say this, I don't remember 703 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,080 your reaction. I knew Gretsch was not, did not 704 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,600 want to do it. And me and Pete. 705 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,360 I think he was on. OK, I will. 706 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,840 I'm going to go back and watch now because. 707 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,000 My, let's be real, Let's be real, The only reason we wanted 708 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,440 it was because of Bestball Brain. 709 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,440 We said, dude, it's so combinatorially unique. 710 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,320 You never get Derek Henry in the fourth round. 711 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,040 That's all it was. It wasn't because we liked 712 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,920 Henry, It was we we liked. We liked the combo. 713 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,240 At least we're in it together. That's yeah, that's the case. 714 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:50,200 But he. Would have been on board for 715 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,280 that, but I, I yeah, I'm going to go see. 716 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,200 A. It's content. 717 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,040 It's content. Dude, we actually, this is 718 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,040 disgusting. We actually need 32 points from 719 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,520 Henry and I'm like, Oh my God, I just know what's going to 720 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,080 happen. He's going to have 21 points in 721 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,680 the first half and we're going to be in that horrible position 722 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,520 being like, well, do we sacrifice everything else, all 723 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,920 every other? We're literally digging around 724 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,000 in the little bag of our advance rate to find one more team to 725 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,480 sacrifice. Can I give you this one? 726 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,840 Yeah, you know. I mean, I mean it's. 727 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,400 An insanely good team, so I do want it to advance. 728 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,120 Patrick No, I mean how in tough was Davis? 729 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,520 He started de veto yesterday in this thing like needing points 730 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,720 and put up 157. Best I could do was 147 and we 731 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,040 fell like maybe 15 points shorter else we would have had 732 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,080 you. But our fancy team was not 733 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,720 DeVito equipped or Addison or DJ Moore. 734 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:49,400 Quarterback. Everyone had me locked out of 735 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,640 quarterback. Now this I did want. 736 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,480 I did want to make sure we covered this today. 737 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,600 Caleb Williams was always good. DJ Moore was always a good pick. 738 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,840 Keenan Allen is fat, but it doesn't matter. 739 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,560 The Cole Comet drafters were directionally accurate. 740 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,240 The DeAndre Swift drafters were directionally accurate. 741 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,600 If if Shane Waldron had been fired in like Week 6, the Bears 742 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,480 could be a playoff team. Caleb Williams is. 743 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,920 Very good. The problem with this take is 744 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,840 the for Shane Waldron to get fired in week six, they have to 745 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,280 be even worse. It had to be. 746 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,640 Terrible. So like you have the point. 747 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,600 The points were always like, you know, you press, you try to lift 748 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,200 up, it goes down in another place. 749 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,880 You know what? You're right. 750 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,880 We. Should have the blankets. 751 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,920 It is the too small blanket theory. 752 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,560 Caleb is just a great player though. 753 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,560 He's good. I mean, he looked great 754 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,400 yesterday. It was fun. 755 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,840 Defend a Hail Mary in their five and two after that game and 756 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,200 Washington if it loses is what right now? 757 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,280 6:00 and 6:00. It's a good thing they didn't. 758 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,760 That was pre Waldron firing right? 759 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,880 Yep, that Hail Mary saved their season. 760 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,000 OK, well, you like Chicago DJ Moore, big day yesterday. 761 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,480 Oh, doomsday. You didn't mention him in that. 762 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,640 What about him for what he was as a pick? 763 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,800 Well he is the worst fit for this new part of the offense. 764 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,360 Like I think he's better then. Worst fitbears.com. 765 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,440 Worst fitbears.com Yeah, because more is like the the gadget 766 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,280 screen. Well, well, Moore has like such 767 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,400 the perfect profile for fantasy because he gets the design 768 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,760 stuff, but he's also so good down the field. 769 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,360 Like if DJ Moore could just play in a normal offense just once, 770 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:36,160 just one, one season, you know, and it's never going to happen. 771 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,960 DJ Moore is going to have retired, never playing. 772 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,280 Dude, he's going to go to the Chiefs at the end of his career 773 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,680 and it's he's going to be too old and it's going to be like a 774 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,880 little fun, but not like as fun as it could have been. 775 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,640 Like he's going to land on the Chiefs, right? 776 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,640 That's He's the perfect 30. Maybe, maybe the Bills, maybe 777 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,920 the Bills, maybe the Bengals, maybe the Bengals, once he gets 778 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,640 cheap enough for the Bengals to sign. 779 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,040 So when he's when he's like a $9 million a year guy at 32. 780 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,840 Or, or see your point all the way through and they're good, 781 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,000 Williams is good and they make it. 782 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,480 I mean, Mclaurin was a version of this, right? 783 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,040 Wasn't Mclaurin also somebody who never had the quarterback? 784 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,920 Maybe not as well liked as a player? 785 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,120 He's not as good. Right. 786 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,600 He's not as good. More, more is like, well, I, 787 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,000 it's one of my deep, deep held beliefs that DJ Moore is like 788 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,400 the 8th best wide receiver in football and we've just never 789 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,360 really got to see it. Like he, he runs circles around 790 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,720 someone like George Pickens, like George Pickens could never 791 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,040 Pickens. George Pickens is he's better. 792 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,760 He's he's better down the field, but he does not have the after 793 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,200 the catch the DJ Moore does. Sure, but I mean Pickens is like 794 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,240 one of the best contested catch guys in the league and gets open 795 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,680 now. Well, he always got open. 796 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,760 That was the secret. No, he didn't. 797 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,760 He used to be. It was all like this stuff. 798 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,160 It was all body on body. I still catch and now he's like 799 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,880 wide open. And also getting in fights with 800 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,040 fans. I mean, shout out to George. 801 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,280 Picken A. Truly phenomenal. 802 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,040 Play the dog levels between Pickens and Moore. 803 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,400 Like Moore was like literally like hung head like going off 804 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,360 the field. Early walked off the field 805 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,960 right. Yeah, I mean, come on, the dog 806 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,760 levels are not. Which like to, you know, to be 807 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,080 honest, I kind of get it from DJ Moore's perspective. 808 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,880 Like this has been his entire career. 809 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,880 His entire career has been trying to wrangle passes from 810 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,280 like the worst idiots of all time. 811 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,800 And then? He gets down at one point, a 812 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,600 bright spot for him. Anyways, to go back to the 813 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:39,360 original question, Rome has the worst role for what Thomas Brown 814 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,160 wants to do because what they want to do is they just want to 815 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,960 get the ball as quick as possible right now. 816 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:50,480 And and Rome is like a classic boundary rookie wide receiver. 817 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,520 So like he just has not learned all the tricks of the trade yet. 818 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,000 I I think Rome is a very good player and I'm not like I'm not 819 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,240 like selling Rome stock or anything right now and Keenan 820 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,480 probably won't be on the team next year I would imagine. 821 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,000 I don't think so. That's that's greatfitchiefs.com 822 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,240 33 year old Keenan Allen is is greatfitchiefs.com. 823 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,040 You can go ahead. You can go ahead and get your 824 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,600 your Photoshop. Keenan Allen, 36 on the Chiefs. 825 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,200 I think it's like 32. I don't think it's 30. 826 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,320 Three, I think. OK 33 on the Chiefs Rishi Rice 827 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,320 coming off an ACL tariff spider man meme. 828 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,440 Bears, Lions, Thanksgiving morning. 829 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,960 Glad you guys like it. I mean, Giants, Cowboys, it's 830 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,800 what, 10 1/2 and. No Bear Bears, lions is going to 831 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,800 be good. Put, put that, put that on the 832 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,080 record right now that is going to. 833 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,360 Be good. I think that'll be good too. 834 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,040 What's good? The Bears will have a lead in 835 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,120 that game in a way that at some point. 836 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,400 OK. That I don't know about because 837 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:52,000 you can run on the bears, OK, But yeah, I could see it. 838 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,640 I could see it. I could see the lines going up 839 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,000 and then the bears storming back for like a 10/3. 840 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000 They leave 10/3 at one point. Three, what do you guys know 841 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,480 about 10? Seven, You want to amend that? 842 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,360 Yeah. What do you guys know about 843 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,120 Montgomery after yesterday? He left but didn't anyone back 844 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,080 in. He said he's going to play and 845 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,320 Campbell said he's going to play. 846 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,320 That doesn't mean he's going to because it could be, oh, this is 847 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,360 worse than I thought when we get back to the right, right 848 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,920 facility situation. And we're 10 point favorite 849 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,920 again. Can Montgomery miss one game so 850 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,680 that my sionvaki thesis can play out can he miss one game can he 851 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,400 miss one game dude, just one. I just do you know the joy 852 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,160 watching Sionvaki catch a six yard swing pass against the 853 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,320 bears on Thanksgiving would be almost as good as. 854 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,760 The same for the Internet. Is it Reynolds? 855 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,040 The Montgomery guy. No, Vaki's like 220 lbs. 856 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,760 He he and he does not look very fast in his limited NFL action 857 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,520 so. You think? 858 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,840 Lauby, Lauby yesterday, by the way, you guys, you guys see that 859 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,120 kick return? Yeah, but did he play? 860 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,280 He didn't. They he did not imagine running 861 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,520 sincere. No. 862 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,400 Sincerely. Amir Abdullah ran 47 rounds 863 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200 yesterday after a previous career high of 40 offensive 864 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:13,200 snaps. I mean, I pat remember the the 865 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,760 deep end Invitational you guys did and I was on with with you 866 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,480 all and I said, like, is there anybody that you haven't drafted 867 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,440 even one time this this year? I mean, I, I, I wonder another 868 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,520 question I'm having about the best ball season process is just 869 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,280 whether we get weird enough at the end. 870 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,760 And it's sort of easy to say, yeah, I mean, it's easy to say 871 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,480 no because there are all these injuries and random things. 872 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,600 But look at Carolina yesterday against Kansas City, where, you 873 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,080 know, Bryce Young back in looked OK, But every week there's 874 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,800 somebody I've never heard of that night. 875 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,840 I mentioned Cedric Tillman for this and I don't know, like 876 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,800 there's a little bit of a life there, but who is Devin 877 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,000 Tompkins? I mean, David Moore had a better 878 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,440 game, but there's always these sort of I I. 879 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,760 Literally thought that was Ken Burrell Tompkins. 880 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,400 By the way, just like for a moment I was like, is that Ken 881 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,320 Burrell Tompkins? Karan, are you in the stream 882 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,560 yard? Yeah. 883 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,240 Just just do the share screen thing. 884 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,640 Just for a second. I just shared my screen. 885 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,280 I just want to show the funniest possible thing, which was that 886 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,320 everyone mocked me for picking Taysom Hill as a quarterback in 887 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,080 this format. And I said, buddy, he's flex 888 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,760 eligible because this is super flex. 889 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,680 I used in this deep end Invitational that we are all in 890 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,640 together. I used Taysom Hills 42.5. 891 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,280 Me too. I just, I just, I just, I just 892 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,480 wanted, I just wanted that out there that I used quarterback 893 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,360 taste. Of those points last week, was 894 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,400 that last week against Atlanta? And I I probably have used them 895 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,640 like at another. Point. 896 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,040 Yeah, I probably used them more. Don't show those screenshots. 897 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,160 Don't show, don't show those Bo Bo Nicks is my quarterback too 898 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,600 in that league, so maybe it's OK. 899 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,240 Yeah, I don't think I had them in that, but I've I've seen that 900 00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:56,480 on a couple of best ball screens. 901 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:02,840 Jalen Waddle yesterday, kind of the Vince Mcmahan meme where 902 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,400 it's like the three faces and it's Waddle maybe and Addison 903 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,800 and then Keenan Allen. What do we take from Miami? 904 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,240 I thought it was a really, really good match up for Miami 905 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:17,560 and the announcers, you know, because I I have the patriots 906 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,240 game on usually one of the screens. 907 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,440 So I was, I was listening to what they were saying and they 908 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,520 were like beside themselves with because The funny thing about 909 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:31,000 the Patriots is that like their offensive coaching and 910 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,280 preparation is like a dumpster fire, but they're also terrible 911 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,680 on defense. So like, I don't have, I get the 912 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,200 feeling they're going to bring everybody back. 913 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,480 But like, there's just no, it's just completely indefensible. 914 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,320 But here we are. But the announcers were just 915 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,760 like Miami's whole thing is like throwing to the middle of the 916 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,280 field. Like you can't have these throws 917 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:58,360 open and as like those words are leaving his mouth like another 918 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,560 throw over the middle to like Tyreke or Janu or Waddle. 919 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,360 Like they were just crushing them over the middle of the 920 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,480 field, which is what we saw with the Rams a little bit the the 921 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,080 week before. But the Dolphins were even more 922 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,000 aggressive about it and more successful. 923 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,720 So I think in some ways it was probably match up. 924 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,960 I mean, a lot of ways it's probably like this was kind of 925 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,600 the match up for the Dolphins passing and we have this this 926 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,920 Patriots defense that doesn't really get much pressure. 927 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,640 They get some pressure, but they're not great and they leave 928 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,240 the middle of the field wide open. 929 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,360 Like that's like a dream spot for the Dolphins, you know, and 930 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,120 we didn't see this the first time because they had Huntley in 931 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,440 the first match up. So. 932 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080 It doesn't really. Get much better, yeah, they want 933 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,560 anybody anyway. But yeah, it just doesn't get 934 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,000 much better for for the Dolphins, and therefore it 935 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,320 doesn't really get much better for for Waddle, who's really 936 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:55,040 been the number 2 to when Johnny's on the field, they 937 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,080 really target him so. Led the team in targets 938 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,520 yesterday. Yeah, I don't have a ton of 939 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,120 faith for a waddle to keep this going. 940 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,160 And I said that somebody drafted a lot of them. 941 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,680 So. Oh, Johnny, Johnny. 942 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,560 Was just a better fit for what they're doing in the offense 943 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,640 right now. They want to get the ball out 944 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,760 really quickly right now. Yeah right. 945 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,960 I think the two of concussion maybe changed some some of the 946 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,440 game planning a little bit. It's like get the ball out. 947 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,240 He has the fastest time to throw in the league lowest freshman. 948 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,960 Do not let him get hit, which makes. 949 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,880 Jonna Smith Jonna Smith was always good, right? 950 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,600 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, always good. 951 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,160 We we kind of got psyoped by spending a year in in New 952 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,920 England. But like who amongst us you 953 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,760 know? With Henry and then maybe one 954 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,000 year after they drafted 2 tight ends in one draft. 955 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,240 Can you guys remember those names? 956 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,440 Oh God. No, Oh God damn it. 957 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,280 I should remember one of them was Keene Dalton Keene. 958 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,120 And and then one of them was I drafted the Aussie Aussie that. 959 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,720 No. Yes, wow. 960 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,120 Wasn't it? Yeah back-to-back 10 picks apart 961 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:14,760 in the third round in 2020, New England, Asiasi and Dalton Keene 962 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:21,000 that's the that's the some deep end stuff I. 963 00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,440 Believe I'd use those brain cells to draft more sago on 964 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:23,920 Berkeley. Huh. 965 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,400 That would have been. I know, right? 966 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,720 So let's get a Chiefs report from Davis. 967 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:32,600 Another Chiefs game, 3027, because Carolina, the Mahomes 968 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,680 run late. At least you got some numbers 969 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,760 out of Pat, but more of the same. 970 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,280 And maybe that's just fine, right? 971 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,760 That's been the story all. Year that is not more of the 972 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,200 same. That is not how they've played 973 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,960 33 passing touchdowns in a game they led the whole way. 974 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,440 Not more of the same, Pat. They're they're just more 975 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,520 consistently. The thing that has been 976 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,000 frustrating if you were a Mahomes guy is for most of the 977 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,240 season they have flipped what Andy Reid has historically done, 978 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:05,480 which is he passes too much in the red zone to the point of 979 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,680 being a detriment. Then this year he must have done 980 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,760 some some self scouting and then like, well, let's just run the 981 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,800 ball and cream Hunt was really good at it. 982 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,360 Cream Hunt has not been that good at it. 983 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,280 And and he also Mahomes has the autonomy to change the play down 984 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,560 there if he sees something. That was what the Noah Gray one 985 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,280 was yesterday, which was kind of illuminating and should be we 986 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,640 should think about things like this. 987 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,320 The Noah Gray's second touchdown was a Cover 0. 988 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,600 Mahomes saw it before the snap. You can hear him on the 989 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,560 broadcast. He goes 000 and they run that 990 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,520 spacing route where Kelsey is underneath Gray and Mahomes 991 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,800 throws that ball before Gray even looks, which is like, 992 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,640 that's pretty for for. I mean, no, Gray's been achieved 993 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:58,160 for a long time, but that is pretty big trust for a guy who 994 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,560 has not been a big part of their offense. 995 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,480 Now, before we get 2 out of our skis on Noah Gray, his five 996 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,360 touchdowns in the last six quarters of football equal his 997 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,040 career touchdown totals from the week. 998 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,000 I mean, we've seen guys, we've seen backup tight ends do this 999 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,680 before. Like we've all seen A2 touchdown 1000 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,240 Austin Hooper game in our lives. You know, I, I and Gray's routes 1001 00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:24,440 were really high against the Bills and they totally regressed 1002 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,440 back on this one. He ran fewer routes than any of 1003 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,040 the wide receivers. So the fifth most routes have 1004 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,640 been or the 6th most routes of any pass catcher. 1005 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,000 So I'm not like crazy. These guys have sometimes popped 1006 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,160 up later as reliable starters. So I think it's still bullish 1007 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,200 for great long term. Like I think didn't Tyler 1008 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,920 Conklin first enter our lives as one of these dudes And. 1009 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,720 I mean, there's been these guys for time in Memoriam. 1010 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:54,480 They just they don't have the right role on the original team. 1011 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,440 I mean, I would I think Gray is going to play a ton in the 1012 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:04,120 playoffs, like like a lot. The thing for our purposes, like 1013 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:09,320 for best ball and for even for DFS, like this is just not 1014 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,680 really like playoff best ball. He's going to be great. 1015 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,240 He's like, he's like, if you're doing the Mahomes stuff, you 1016 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,360 well, actually weirdly, by the way, the Chiefs are like going 1017 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,000 to be brutal for playoff best ball because they are the 1018 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,400 favorites to make the Super Bowl in the. 1019 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,480 AFC. They're they're also gonna be on 1020 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,080 the bye very likely, but they also don't score any fantasy 1021 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,520 points in the games they play in. 1022 00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:35,120 So it's gonna be like getting Chiefs players to the final in 1023 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,840 playoff baseball is gonna be very hard when like Xavier 1024 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,440 Worthy scoring 6 points, Hopkins scoring 9, Kelsey scoring 10, 1025 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,920 and Pacheco Hunt and P Reiner dicing up the backfield three 1026 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,360 ways. Wait a minute, wait a minute. 1027 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,080 Last week you said, oh, the Bills will get the one that 1028 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,360 changed because they beat Carolina by a field goal with 1029 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,200 the gun. No the Bills. 1030 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,960 That was just never supported by the match. 1031 00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:01,400 The Bills were always because I, I spent the last week dialing in 1032 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,520 the, the playoff Sims that we have and you know, for the 1033 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,680 playoff baseball stuff and the the Bills are have a good chance 1034 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,080 for the one, but they never were the favorite for the one. 1035 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,000 I, I wouldn't, well, you're not ruling it out. 1036 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,320 But look, Buffalo is getting San Francisco now in their current 1037 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,480 state. Then they go, what? 1038 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,840 Yeah, OK. The last three weeks, to me, are 1039 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,920 the interesting things about those two teams. 1040 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,280 If they're one game apart and the Bills would win on ties, the 1041 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,280 Bills go Patriots, Jets, Patriots, where they're playing 1042 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,080 backups, you know, in tank mode. Whereas the Chiefs go what, 1043 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,960 Davis, Houston, Pittsburgh, Denver. 1044 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,960 I mean, that's different. Those are teams playing for 1045 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,720 their lives. Yeah, the Bills. 1046 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,800 The Bills have the harder schedule, but they're also the 1047 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,640 better team. So like, it really could get 1048 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,240 like the Chiefs could have lost to the Panthers yesterday. 1049 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,520 That doesn't sound like the harder schedule. 1050 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,160 I mean, they they go Niners, Rams, Lions 1st and that's 1051 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,160 different than what Kansas City is up to. 1052 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,240 But Kansas City has the Chargers again, too. 1053 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:06,920 Yeah. The the the 49ers 1 is, is like 1054 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,680 huge. If they don't have Purdy. 1055 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,120 That's just such a big difference. 1056 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,080 Because when you look, when we're looking at the schedule 1057 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,560 for the Bills, it's like the issue is that they have these 1058 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:22,160 two games where they're like either they're like coin flips 1059 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:26,160 to to win the game, the the 49ers and the the Detroit game. 1060 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,840 And then there's some some easier matchups as well. 1061 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,480 But the Chiefs also have an easier matchups. 1062 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,880 So and the Chiefs don't have any game. 1063 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,760 I think the Chiefs and the look headlines were favored by at 1064 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:42,560 least four and all of them. So taking one of those games for 1065 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,800 the Bills and moving it to like kind of a soft matchup is. 1066 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,440 The betting markets have favored Kansas City in this way. 1067 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,200 Maybe this that would sort of run concurrent with the with The 1068 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,680 Sims. Also, if if you care, today is 1069 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,960 November 25th here in Western New York. 1070 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,200 We have not had one snowflake yet. 1071 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,680 It's the latest we've ever gone without. 1072 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,960 I mean, I've I've lived through storms the first week of October 1073 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,480 that were like just everybody came to a stop coming up on end 1074 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,360 of November. Not yet, maybe Sunday. 1075 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,280 And that's Sunday Night Football is. 1076 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,200 That good or bad? Do you want snow or do you not 1077 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,320 want snow as a Bill's fan? Maybe it's sunny today. 1078 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,720 I'm walking the dog. I'm fine with that. 1079 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,400 I think for your life I'm. Sure. 1080 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,480 As as a Bills, as a Bills fan, you want the snow because the 1081 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,600 whole thesis is Josh Allen is built differently and these guys 1082 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,440 can't do what Josh can do in the elements, right? 1083 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,400 I guess that. Also when it's scoring and you 1084 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,720 have the higher scoring. That, that is Liam's theory. 1085 00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:41,040 I should point out that that is chess. 1086 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,320 Liam's theory as to why as to why the Bills should not build 1087 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,760 the Dome. I think that's a part of why 1088 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,760 they drafted him. You know, they talked about I, I 1089 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,680 mocked it all the time. Like they talked about the size 1090 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,200 of his hands. Like, come on, can we get, can 1091 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,640 we stop with the ground and pound and feeling like the, the 1092 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,840 best teams the Bills have ever had were, you know, run and gun 1093 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,280 in the early 90s. Yet like every time we sort of 1094 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,160 have to default to, Oh, well, it's going to be cold and windy 1095 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,840 and I, I just, he's, he's pretty good indoors, Allen. 1096 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,720 Imagine drafting a guy because he has big hands and then he 1097 00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:14,520 turns out to be Josh Allen and they turned out to be Josh 1098 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,160 Allen. That was just. 1099 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,480 Part of it. I got to be honest, I'm I'm very 1100 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,200 split with this because like I would prefer the chiefs win the 1101 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,400 Super Bowl and it's much easier for them to win the Super Bowl 1102 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,240 if they don't have to play the wild card game. 1103 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,720 But I also like to win money at playoff best ball and I know 1104 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:34,840 myself well enough to know that I can't not take Chiefs players 1105 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,720 in that format, particularly when there's data to support 1106 00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:42,600 taking them as picks. So I almost would rather them 1107 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,560 not get the one seed so that they have to play the the wild 1108 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,640 card round, you know? They just and their prices move 1109 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,120 up, though. Their prices move up. 1110 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:51,360 Why? But I think. 1111 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,200 But you can. They can. 1112 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,560 They can. Yeah, I see. 1113 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,840 But I've also already drafted 150 teams in the one contest 1114 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,520 with like a lot of Chiefs. So the other thing about playoff 1115 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,680 best ball too, is that you have this dynamic where there's like 1116 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,480 really only 5 quarterbacks that you want to take and there's six 1117 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,280 teams. So when you're drafting out of 1118 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,160 the one hole, you're like praying that you get a 1119 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,280 quarterback back. And if, if Mahomes comes back, 1120 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,720 you're like slam, you're like, yes. 1121 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,520 So by the time the gauntlet comes around. 1122 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,600 By the time the gauntlet comes around, you won't be able to do 1123 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,600 that anymore. You could do that sometimes. 1124 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:34,040 You could start Barkley and get Hertz at the 2-3 turn. 1125 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,040 By the time that the that people have descended upon the gauntlet 1126 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,440 and the Mitten that will be over the the quarterbacks will be 1127 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:49,240 picks three through 10. Yeah, I don't think you need to 1128 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,000 take what it is, but what I think I think Allen should be a 1129 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,560 first round pick because he might get Personally, I'm 1130 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,520 rooting for the Bills not to get the buy very selfishly for 1131 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,200 playoff basketball reasons, I want the Bills as a hammer. 1132 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,040 I want to be able to bet on the Bills to go to the Super Bowl 4 1133 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,440 games and win and win the Super Bowl, Mike, but but that part 1134 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,600 doesn't really matter for my bags. 1135 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,040 But go to the Super Bowl and just be the absolute hammer, 1136 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,480 advance rate hammer the entire way because that allows me to 1137 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,040 build teams like I want to in playoff basketball where I don't 1138 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,200 have to like focus a ton on my advance rate pieces. 1139 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,600 I'm just like focusing on which teams are going to make the 1140 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,920 Super Bowl and if the Bills don't have the buy, they they 1141 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,960 could just absolutely roll in those in that first round and 1142 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,400 help you get the teams through so. 1143 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,840 It's been that for the last three or four years each time, 1144 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,480 because they have never gotten the buy and they have played 1145 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,760 Mason Rudolph and Skyler Thompson in the first round and 1146 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,640 they've won those games and that's been fine. 1147 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,720 You say 5 quarterbacks, so I want to guess Alan Mahomes, 1148 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,520 Jackson Hertz, Goff, are those the five? 1149 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,520 And and last week you guys did great talking about like, well, 1150 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,440 it's early enough where you want to play the chalk at this point 1151 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,280 when it comes to playoff baseball tournaments. 1152 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,440 Once we get past that, can I interest either of you in 1153 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,320 Mayfield? I mean, the passing is there. 1154 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,880 They have an easy schedule there. 1155 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,880 A game behind Atlanta, which goes into the winner to the by 1156 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,160 is kind of a mess. You know, when when we get to a 1157 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,360 point where we want to take chances, if you will. 1158 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,320 Maybe he's interesting. Well, I mean those types of 1159 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:26,440 plays are already interesting. You, you probably want to mix in 1160 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,600 sparingly the teams that might not make the play offs, but you 1161 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,880 have to cover. You don't have to in the AFC. 1162 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,200 You could you could take the Chiefs and then bet that they 1163 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,920 don't get the buy. You could take the Bills. 1164 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,760 I am with the Bills. I am just kind of betting they 1165 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,720 don't get the buy. But if you want to cover that 1166 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:49,680 buy, it's better to do it with an NFC quarterback because then 1167 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,920 you at least have the out of them also making the Super Bowl. 1168 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,480 I I think that is way too FPS, that is very fancy play because 1169 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,680 the way the market was and we'll see what happens when the gala 1170 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,440 it opens is you could just do Packers, you can finish. 1171 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,920 Packers. Packers is better. 1172 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,280 You can finish every draft. Love Watson Wicks, love Watson 1173 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:16,200 craft, love Dobbs. Whoever or or the The market 1174 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,080 actually got woke to this at the end, but the Chargers, Dobbins, 1175 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:25,280 Dobbins, Herbert Ladd, you. Know you can do you can do 1176 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,560 Steeler stuff at the end too, which is it's not fun, but like 1177 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,440 they're making it. I I just only like I learned my 1178 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,680 lesson I think with this last year with the Flacco bullshit 1179 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,280 where like I I did I did some brown stuff at the end to be my 1180 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,160 bye week advance pieces. And if I think a team is 1181 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,440 legitimately 0% like in nose I ran 80,000 simulations. 1182 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,800 They didn't make the Super Bowl once. 1183 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,680 Their expectation is just too bad. 1184 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,240 But it's not the Super Bowl, it's the conference 1185 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,000 championship. Because you you wouldn't take 1186 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:00,920 rush. They only got there. 1187 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,640 They only got there in seven of my 80,000 simulations, the 1188 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,680 Browns, and I still took them. So that was, yeah. 1189 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,400 Well, that's probably not. Enough. 1190 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,600 That was a bad pick. Yeah. 1191 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,200 And and if you're doing purely to cover bye week, we want to 1192 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,080 draft teams that are live for all the teams to make the 1193 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,800 conference championship. But like, you know, you get to 1194 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,440 the end, you're like, what team can win round one? 1195 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,640 And then we'll kind of take it from there and help me cover 1196 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,240 that by. NFC is set up for just a really 1197 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,720 good first week. You have teams like the Vikings 1198 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,640 and the Packers on the road against the Falcons or the Bucks 1199 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,440 and the Cardinals or the Seahawks. 1200 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,400 You know they'll be there. Could be a couple of Rd. 1201 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,040 favorites in the NFC playoffs first round. 1202 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,680 We'll see if Washington can get home at this point. 1203 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,400 Yeah, once I know who's playing the Falcons, that road, that 1204 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:50,960 road team against the Falcons, you're like. 1205 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,200 Oh my God, you're gonna, you're gonna Michael Panics. 1206 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,720 Michael Panics is starting that game. 1207 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,400 I think. Sam, Sam, Sam, rest in peace to 1208 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,320 Sam. He tweeted that that Michael 1209 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:00,840 Panics is gonna be starting that game. 1210 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,200 But if it's Minnesota, how could they? 1211 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,400 How could they deprive us? Deprive us of a Kirk versus the 1212 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,640 Vikings first round game, but. Well Kirk Kirk not showing up 1213 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,640 for that game would be pretty on brand so. 1214 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,560 It sure. It sure would. 1215 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:20,120 People people forget his Rd. overtime playoff win against 1216 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,120 Brees and the Saints. They they forget. 1217 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,200 That the Minnesota Vikings, dude, please, I'm begging you, 1218 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,600 dude, can we just get one Justin Jefferson game? 1219 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,240 Just. One so they play the Falcons in 1220 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,640 the next couple weeks. Yes, I think next. 1221 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,280 I think maybe next. Yeah, I I think that could be 1222 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,280 the game, Davis. I was eyeing that up. 1223 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,200 Somehow, somehow that's going to be somehow that's going to be a 1224 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,840 Cam Akers game. Week 14 for all the advanced 1225 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,400 rate money Atlanta at Minnesota. All right. 1226 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,360 Jefferson having a 41 point underdog game. 1227 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,080 Would I? I bet that would be worth 5 1228 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,840 teams to me if I had to guess. I'll be rooting for you. 1229 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,920 Happy Thanksgiving Davis and Pat and everybody for watching 1230 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,720 today. I'm Mike show, Pat Crane, Davis 1231 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,400 Matic ABP chasing. See you next week. 1232 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,360 Hang on, I got to get the answer.