Hi there, I'm Mike Shope. Welcome to ADP Chasing Tuesday,
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It's the most disgusting thing you can make, but man.
Pat, welcome back. So the young one's going to run
on her own tonight. You know what?
No, he's got, he's got the night, bro.
He's got the, he's got the. Night here.
I can already hear the activity going on.
Yeah, that. Is sitting so no, my wife is
watching Vivian. She's not loose.
She's not even too. She's not can't be loose.
You know, relative term Kyler Murray drinking the night Davis.
What is that? Is that a Mike's Hard Open 2
days ago? That is a.
Doctor Pepper 0 Sugar, yeah. Come on.
Open on the weekend. Calories calories after 6:00 PM
central time. What am IA fucking animal Jacob
insane. I did, I did.
I wore this especially for all the loyal viewers and listeners
of Ship Chasing, where I feel like we've spent a lot of time
arguing about Kyler Murray. Got brand new this, first time
I've worn it, still smells. Like, I don't know, have we
spent that much time? I feel like there's a big
argument, we were told. That we there was a, there was a
big argument. Start in the NFL and then it's
been, it's been cricket. It's a couple.
Weeks or so. You know what?
You know what we're usually like?
Tom Murray, what a nice. Pick we we definitively I'm.
Not very controversial. What happened?
We we definitively won that one. It's a pretty big, pretty big
win. Davis is like, consistently
like, haunted by anonymous YouTube commenters that he
imagines talking. No, these were real.
These were real. These were real.
I saw them. Now, Jacob is not wrong in the
sense that I am haunted by like one guy who maybe said something
once, but these guys were real the one time.
This it was real this time. Last.
Comment playback Watch the video go back go back to February.
They're. There I shop, I am, I am
vulnerable to it now. I mean, obviously the way that I
deal with that largely is on my own channel that I run is if
you, if you slightly annoy me, once you're you're basically
gone. Like you get you the rope.
The rope is so, so thin. Swirl cast too as well.
You you get, you get like 1 1/2. As Uncle Mike, if I may, this
community, there's a couple areas as sharp and sophisticated
as it is that has the farthest to go.
And that one is the people you're talking about aren't
listening and the people you care about don't care.
So there's no, there's no upside in that any of that.
So so Mike, the the issue is we are literally the only game in
town. If you are, if you are a best
ball degenerate and you are drafting in the big board right
now, even if you fucking hate me, you're probably watching.
This show. You're you.
You really probably are. Right.
So that changes the dynamic you're talking about it?
Changes the dynamic just a smidge.
Just a smidge. What does it mean to run with
them? So let.
Me just say love stars before we even opened.
OK, 'cause they said true Tootin is not the RB-1.
Enough of this nonsense. It ends today.
Like these Love Stars wishes there was other stuff but admits
that this is the best. Show.
Who's more ready for tonight's show, Pat or Love Stars?
That's the question I have. Love Stars is locked in dude.
He's he's got like by shell Tootin PFF pass receiving grade
from college stuff ready to go. Love Stars is currently on eBay
looking for Chris Rodriguez jerseys.
There is a Jerry West rookie going tonight.
You might like Love Stars. This is a good.
Looking for cards by the way. This is what we call a sell
window for Chris Rodriguez jerseys.
This is a don't over price them on eBay.
You know you want, you want to move, move that product right
now. So to break the ice, not that we
need it broken at this point, there was a flag football game
of some interest recently. My whole Twitter timeline watch
this I I didn't not only did I not watch one second, I was
actively mad people were watching it it.
Was going on during March Madness.
Like people, get your get your priorities straight.
Yeah, I mean, I, I, I I'm a college basketball guy, really,
but still. I mean, come on.
Yeah, but you, you surely filled out a bracket.
Oh, Minnie, I'm I'm addicted to gambling.
Of of I mean. I know this about you, yeah.
I didn't watch this flag football either.
I was this where the the odo Beckham thing came from?
Odo was learn. Correct.
Slide one, watch and learn. There there was there was 1 Tom
Brady clip that totally isolated from.
Anything else that happened? Did look very impressive.
That's all I got, She. Killed it.
I got to download these these slides hang on.
He's is love stars available for kind.
Of love stars, could you would you mind up?
In for Pat. Cars do you have a buy shell
Tooting slide? Do you have a do you have a
Chris Rodriguez slide? Do you have a side by side for
us yet? Here do.
You have a jersey yet? I mean the stars.
Is just like demanding that Sam Sherman start a competing
stream. That's a competing stream.
Wait is is this true? Gronk tore his ACL.
Hamstrung. Well it says left with a
hamstring injury. I know.
Does that read as Torres ACL to you?
Somewhat. TTCD chosen Deezer just said
Gronk towards ACL but a hamstring injury I guess makes
sense. I don't know.
I really wasn't following. I couldn't have told you Drunk
played in it. To be honest, I didn't know.
Hertz and Smith were in this game.
That's crazy. Don't do that.
Jayden's dude. Jayden Daniels.
Joe Burrow and Jayden Daniels were in it.
Like what are? You doing guys?
I love how I said Jalen Hurts and Jacob was like no, no real
quarterbacks playing too. Yeah, exactly.
Oh my God, I did. The one clip that I did see,
surprising probably no one, was Jalen Hurts getting sacked by
Logan Paul. And I just watched that over and
over and over and over. Again, Joe Burrow like was
tackling people. Joe Burrow like went to the
ground like I if I was the Browns, I mean not, or if I was
the Bengals and not that the Bengals are a serious
organization, I'd be like, you can't, you can't do this like
you are. You are not allowed to do this.
Bro well look what they did today, signed Fleco.
Like they're just making contingency plans, I think.
Oh, did I actually missed that today?
I missed that they had signed Flacco.
What is the which is which is awesome news for for Chase and
Higgins we like now it's the kick.
Joe Bro misses time. Whatever.
Yeah, no A.J. Brown playing with Jalen Hurts
at the the Saudi Arabia. Football game.
He would never. He would never.
Why? I mean seriously, Like don't do
that. I will say I I did lose a ton.
I just in general lost respect for all these guys, particularly
Jayden Daniels and Joe Burrow. Like, you don't need the money,
you're in the prime of your life.
Like what the fuck are you doing?
Lost respect? How great is that?
Not that I have a ton of respect for them anyway, but.
You, you have lost my respect playing flag football on
television in March, you wouldn't have been playing on
the side. We know that.
They should be. Hey, they should be at TGL right
now. They should be watching TGL
playoffs in Los Angeles. That's so far right now.
With Tiger. Yeah, OK.
It's the golf. League we, we, we don't, we, we
don't have time for this. Champion.
I didn't think there would be like like this, this slide
following the flag football games.
Like somehow the flag football is actually more relevant to
fantasy. Like maybe we should just move
back to this. It's insane we're so anti.
An NFL team? Why are we talking?
About you are so anti slides lately.
No. You have their best player
ranked fourteen so. You know I unironically saw a
fantasy football account tweet this today on my 4U page.
It was a clip of Malik Willis practicing down in Miami with.
Was that a fantasy football account or a NFL draft account
'cause there's a difference and some should just stick to what
they're doing. I.
Wasn't ready for that in the 1st 10 minutes.
Well shit, I actually honestly, I don't know, but the caption of
it was that Jalen Tolbert Malik Willis combo looking pretty
sharp, like with the eyes emoji. And I was just like, this
actually could be the darkest offensive season in in modern
NFL history. This this could easily be the
the huge Hugh Jackson, right? He was the coach of the O and 17
Browns. This could this could pretty
easily be that with who was the running back on that team?
Who wasn't Chubb, was it? Johnson.
Duke Johnson It was Duke Johnson with Devin, a chain in the Duke
Johnson role. Yeah, I mean.
I wouldn't draft him at 14. Where would you draft him?
I moved him to. I moved him to 20.
Yeah, I have him at 24, which is basically 24.
I'll not draft him unless he's traded or moves down in ADP.
I mean, he does have some chance of being traded.
So feel like, yeah, you you get that for free at 24.
I'd say the other thing is like he's such a APPR friendly back.
Even with Willis, it's like it's hard.
I mean, I know they're not going to have a ton of drop.
Backs thing is PPR friendly with Malik Willis.
Yeah. I think that kind of is when you
don't have receivers like they're going to have to include
some design touches for for a sure on the backfield, sure.
Like he'll, he'll have some, but like it's going to be, I think a
pretty, I mean, you have first of all, you replace Tua, who's
like the most willing to check down of maybe any quarterback,
like of all time with Malik Willis, there's no interest in
jacking down. You replace Mike McDaniel, who's
like, incredible. Do we, do we even by the way,
I'd like to criticize you real quick, Jacob.
Do we even have enough of a sample size of Malik Willis
playing to say like, oh he he will definitely never check
down? I mean, I guess not like he's
played at games, but like he's certainly doesn't have a high
rate of he's certainly not the archetype of quarterback you
would expect to check down at the rate.
He is. Not, I mean he is not.
I know, I know he's not cuz run and running quarterbacks don't
check down anyways, just in general they run instead.
I. Do or the more pressing issue is
that is that they're gonna average like I think a very low
amount of total plays. Total plays.
And total dropbacks. Cuz like they're, they're really
run heavy. And then they're going to be
bad, so they're going to have to try to pass.
But then. I don't think we'll.
They're going to have to try to their.
Defense is going to just go 3 and out and punt all the time
and run like 47 plays. Maybe, but I mean the defense,
it's not like the worst case scenario here would be they
actually have an awesome defense because now you're like, right,
they just don't score. They're they're horrible to
watch on offense, but you know, they're not they're able to kind
of like bend, don't break on defense.
The game goes away and you know, like you kind of want them to at
least get possessions cuz other teams score on them.
Like some of The Jets games last year where it was like in the
first half, we're gonna run the ball.
Then yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like
they're down by 14 and it's like, OK, now they have to pass
the ball. Oh, they went three and out and
then they got the ball back. There's 6 minutes left in the
third quarter. They went three and out again.
The Jets were absolutely in the 4th.
Quarter Oh they've pulled the starters and they got like 7
plays of comeback mode because they can't sustain any drives in
combat. Like I I just think there's
catastrophic systemic downside to this whole project that like
will ruin everyone associated with it.
Also, where is Tutu Atwell on this this chart?
True, true. People are saying, yeah, come
on. Zach respect Tutu Atwell.
Let me let me try and give you 1 shred of optimism if you're a
Dolphins fan, our boy Chad Candles is a Dolphins fan.
Or if you are a big Malik Willis bag holder, of which I am a big
Malik Willis bag holder. They maybe do they have a lot of
they have to have a lot of picks in this draft, right?
They have. Multiple thirds.
Maybe a bunch of thirds?
Maybe they take like all of our fun rookies that like our models
like, like maybe they end up with that Adam Randall and
Jacoby Lane and Justin. Jolly, that matters to me.
I, I know, I know, but it kind of matters to me.
I think I think the your hope here is that Willis is actually
like kind of solid and it's a better design.
Like The Jets comparison is very fair and pretty scary.
But you know, The Jets offense last year was, it wasn't just
that they wanted to run the ball and didn't seem interested in
doing things that helped them win, but it's like the offense
was horribly designed too. So you know, I don't.
Know like Bobby Slovak. Tanner Angstrom, I I think I'd
take him over Angstrom. Angstrom was.
I don't think I would. I think I angstrom was about as
bad as it gets. Jacob, whatever, whatever you
just did with your microphone, it, it sounds, it sounds
dramatically better than it did before, but now you're coming in
like. Your microphone before was Bobby
Slovak, but now it's Tanner Eichstra.
Yeah. OK, how's this?
That's better. It'll play.
Maybe can can you do like 5% less?
That's good. How are we now?
There you go. Beautiful, beautiful.
You're good, You're good. Yeah, someone someone in the
comments said I was quiet so I I made myself louder but I guess
too loud. But now we're OK.
We found the middle. We're we're, we're, we're. 33
little 3 Little is the consensus.
The Dolphins are a full on fade. I still take playlist they're
they're a full fade for me, except for I do think Willis is
fine in best ball 'cause I think he'll have some games where
similar to Fields last year we were like, man, he played like
shit. Oh, he scored. 23 fans, he
scored. 22 points, yeah. And they won't take them out.
Like Jacob, they won't take them out.
No, they will. I think that's, I mean, they
definitely could Late season, yeah.
Which is a problem for us. Yeah, no, it's a big risk.
Of a pick, yeah. I I'm not, I'm not overweight on
any dolphin. I, I'm, I take Willis
occasionally. If HN's ADP fell I would love
to, but I, I don't. I think I'm out on an island
with this. I I've seen way more optimism
for him than I have. No, I'm.
I'm. I'm with you.
I I like the where I have HN
ranked. I don't.
Get I'm gonna lower him. I'm gonna lower him slightly I I
think. I've taken a little bit of Greg
Dulcich in the 20th. I think Greg Dulcich is
draftable the I. Think Dulcich is draftable?
Sure. Part of it for me with HN is
like he's actually very talented and the kind of the only way,
like if they are intent on keeping him and, and potentially
extending him before the season, like he will be a huge part of
what they're trying to do. They they would like to get the
first pick, but probably not completely embarrass themselves.
So running their offense, their running back probably helps them
do that. No, you get to a certain point
in the second round where you're like, I just, I'm going to just
take this guy who's like, you know, has the ability to score
like an elite running back, even if his situation is rough.
I I've got one other angle here and then we can go on to the
next slide is are you guys taking a little bit of Ollie
Gordon and or Jalen Wright with the with two understandings, one
being the chance of a trade, the second being HN gets shut down
with a phantom hamstring injury in week 10 and the and you get a
quote UN quote starting running back.
And I'm yes on Gordon. I'm yes on Gordon.
I'm yes on Gordon as well. I've taken Gordon once or twice,
but like, but like my the reason I don't want to take a Chan has
nothing to do with a Chan. I think.
I think the world of him. So it's I don't really want to
bet against him. I'm just betting against this
whole team. So it doesn't really make me
like excited to take the way shittier version of a Chan who's
going to be stuck in the same shitty spot.
But I've taken Gordon maybe once or twice just where you where I
need a running back and he's there.
Gordon just feels like one of those things where it's like,
yeah, maybe he's the guy who would benefit if a Chan went
down, but like is he definitely? And what?
Like why are we making the bet on the like, I want to take a
Chan because it's a Chan. I don't want to take the guy
behind a Chan because now I just have a 2 down running back on
the worst team in the NFL and the end I like I binked that
that was I I had a backup to start.
The Dulcich I think is draftable.
Malik Washington is draftable, I think, but it's not fun.
Malik Malik Washington is the is the most who gives a shit.
Like I just, we've, we've seen, we've seen the Malik Washington
thing. Yeah, it is, It is not, it is
not exciting. I I agree.
The next slide is, is Isaiah Pacheco actually Dave Jamir
Gibbs compliment now and how likely is it that he does?
Well, no. They're so they're so drafting
someone Craig Reynolds is can rear his ugly head.
Legend of the show Sion Baki, like all, all, all respect to
Isaiah Pacheco, He I mean, he literally gave his leg up for
the 2024 Super Bowl, losing Kansas City Chiefs, got break,
came back way too quick, never was right.
Heard it again. He just, he's got, he's just got
nothing. I can't pick him.
I mean, Pacheco was I. Haven't been that excited.
He, the whole thing with Pacheco was like, I don't know, he ran
like a 437 or whatever. He he ran right.
And it's like, well, he's not very good, but he is fast.
And on the Chiefs, that can go a long way.
Yeah, but he's not fast anymore. Now he's slow and drawing dead
to get more than like 10 touches in a game.
Yeah. And he's never really been good.
So I don't know. I don't really see the point.
And and. We're on the slide Montgomery,
though. Montgomery he's he's like I'm
stunned, but he's he's like one of my favorite picks in all of
best ball right now. And it it brings me no pleasure
to say that, but like he's he's like the lighthouse at the
position 'cause after him there's no running back.
I want it cost for a while. And so I'm, I'm frequently in a
spot where like, if I only have one running back and it gets
into the fifth round, sometimes even the sixth round, I'm, I'm
like David Montgomery is looking pretty great right now 'cause
yeah, after him it's like, it's bleak.
I'm not into like Jalen Warren at cost or Mondre at cost.
Harvey. It's, it's gets rough around
there. So Monty, I like on this slide.
Pacheco, not so much. Yeah, I'm, I'm with you.
Risers you like Monty Moore or Tootin straight out.
Tootin. I mean, I like Tootin more like
I think we have, I think we have them ranked back-to-back.
But like, you know, if I'm on the draft and it's the two of
them, who do I want to take? I want to take baseball team.
We actually have Monte 2. Spots.
Take the slap out of the chaser, buddy.
You could try. You could try.
Can't do it. It's just mostly age situation.
No, I mean Jacksonville is still a a puzzle and Houston isn't
anymore. I mean I feel like I feel like
Jacksonville is being treated more of a puzzle than it is in
reality because Chris Rodriguez had like 3 good games and people
hated Bill. Chris Rodriguez got waved and
sent to the practice God 21 different times by the
Washington commanders. That's not in fact, I might even
be low balling. It might be more than 21 times.
That you fell asleep counting. You fell asleep counting?
Yeah. That's how, yeah, when Davis has
insomnia, he just remembers how many times.
Roderick 21. Chris Rodriguez is like man, I
don't know who he's like Isaiah Crowell or just like he he
remember Zamir White, remember that that like 4 game runs.
Zamir. White went on for the Raiders.
He's like, if Zamir White's college coach, got a job and was
like, sure, yeah, whatever. We need another running back.
Let me bring in this guy I coached in college.
I'm not even as tilted by the Chris Rodriguez stuff as you
are. I'm more tilted by what wheel
route just brought up, which is Laquint Allen.
The Laquint Allen hype drives me
crazy 'cause that guy's Daria Goombawale to me.
Yeah, he's he's just, I think I still think C Rod is like, I
mean, I, I love C Rod as a pick in best ball at cost.
He hasn't really stopped me from taking tooten, but I don't know.
I, I, I do think that there's, I think that there's ambiguity.
I think it's a puzzle. I think that Putin's fine to bet
on a cost like I, I prefer Tootin straight up to like
Trevion Henderson, honestly. But I, I do think that there's a
very distinct possibility that we, we look in like week 10 and
we're like, why are we taking all these year 2 backs that are
like projecting as, as timeshare guys?
And then we just had no interest in David Montgomery's 320
touches for 12 touchdowns. That's what it's to play the Sam
Sherman role in the podcast. Like, I think the odds that
David Montgomery outscores the whole group of Tuten Hendo
Harvey scataboo is like, pretty pretty reasonable.
We all. Right.
Can I? Can I?
Pull you head to Henderson.
So I mean, I do like understand what you're saying, but it is
kind of the it's the Spinal Tap thing where you can tell me all
the facts you want. But baseball Tuten goes to 11.
Hey, look, I'm dropping. Look at you with that.
Risk that was that was very good.
I was gonna say basically the same thing, which is well
related to that, but also like chances of David Montgomery
having a legendary season 0 impossible cannot cannot happen.
Bischeltuden could score 15 touchdowns or whatever.
And then the, the I, the point I would like to make on top of
that is the ADP makes sense when you factor in the downside risk.
And the downside risk is that Montgomery loses his job due to
performance because he his body just can't do it anymore.
To whom? To whom?
He could just. He could.
Nick Chubb lost his job to the worst interior runner in the
National Football League last year.
OK, I'm I'm willing to bet that we've seen the David Montgomery
is better than like post career ending injury Nick Chubb.
I there's nothing we've seen to suggest that he's not
significantly better. He was.
Pretty bad last year. He was fine.
He his his like he didn't play that much give played way more,
but like his actual efficiency stats and inspiration metrics
and stuff are like totally fine. Like, he's not, he's not a game
changing back at anything, but. I think the bigger issue.
Is being completely average. You end up spending like a late
4th or fifth round pick depending on, you know, where
you actually take him. He's 80 PS 63.
So that's, I mean, he is a really strong pick, right?
You're getting him in the the early 6th.
But you you spend that pick and it's like, yeah, I could have
gotten this production with a pick around like pick 100 or
something. That's that's where like.
Jalen Warren Jalen Warren outscores David Montgomery on 75
fewer touches or something. Yeah, I think that it's just
like really uninspiring over the course of the year.
Like I, I don't, I do agree with you, Jacob, that I don't think
he's gonna get like completely displaced 'cause it would have
to be Woody Marks or like one of these random ass rookies, you
know, they're. Not Jordan.
They're not Jordan. So yeah, I mean, there's like
not too many guys that could actually, like, realistically do
it. Like this rookie class sucks.
Yeah, it's terrible. Well, plus I would just say.
I went mute. I went so much deeper than I
planned because I was like, surely, surely, like Le'veon
Moss or like Robert Henry. Did you just reference?
Did you just reference UTS as own Robert Henry?
I did, yeah. I wrote him up.
I was like, there has to be someone and there isn't there
most. It's like Heidenreich got a Navy
where you're like, I don't know, maybe.
He's gonna actually. Get listed as a running back and
catches passes. It's gonna be but he's not a
run. He's not a run.
Not it's gonna be Jaden. It's not, it's none of these
bums. I'm I'm also in the midst of
writing my running back stuff. I'll have it.
I'll have it out by probably the end of the weekend and yeah,
like there's nothing. There's nothing.
It's like love. And then I don't even like the
guys that are going to go day two really, except for Coleman
kinda, but at least if they go Day 2.
I think. Coleman, right, He might not
even he might not even go day 2. So like, but at least he he I
think is decent and like I think price in Washington suck.
But if they go day 2, you could talk me into saying they get
touches for the first year at least.
Sure. And then, yeah, all these other
day, three guys are like, I think.
Price is actually kind of good, but but you know.
Yeah, but not on Houston. Houston traded up for Marks and
then sign Montgomery. The power moves.
Yeah, they're not going to take Mike Washington, take
engineering. Price.
Those guys are not in rookies are not in Montgomery's way, I
think. It would have to like Nick
Singleton. I could see taking the job at
the end of the year. He's got enough upside.
But like, he's even if they get like Katron Allen in round five,
I think Montgomery's pretty safe.
Also on this list, let's run it down.
Christian Kirk, Chris Rodriguez, Darnell Mooney Giants Montgomery
Malik Washington Miami Emmanuel Wilson, Chico Conquo to
Washington Hollywood Brown Still in the last call zone.
Oh, I could've wore my Hollywood brown jersey.
Damn I I. I'm so glad that we're We're the
show that brings you the latest on Christian Kirk, Darnell
Mooney, Malik Washington, Emmanuel Wilson.
You know the the saddest the saddest thing about this list is
that I think Christian Kirk is probably drawing pretty lives a
matter for fantasy football this year, which is just so
disgusting. Yeah, I can see that.
I think it's Hollywood too. I don't know about that.
Yeah, I, I'm thinking, I'm thinking we're just looking at
like kind of an all time Devonta Smith and then a lot of like a
lot of Sake 1, Barkley running like a lot of Sake one.
Barkley, I mean. This is I don't think that the
Eagles I I I really don't think that the Eagles plan is to trade
A.J. Brown and replace him with no
one except for Hollywood Brown like I would I would assume that
in the world where they're trading A.J.
Brown They're drafting a wide receiver or they're.
They're gonna get Mac Collins receiver.
They'll be fine. They're gonna get Mac Collins
back. They'll do something and I also
assume they go hyper consolidated.
So I mean I've been drafting I think Devonta Smith is probably
I don't know cuz I mean like a bunch of slows.
But I would guess when they finish, Smith will be my most
drafted player cuz I'm pretty bullish on the Brown trade
happening and he could be I think like a monster win in the
fourth. Yeah.
And I like Goddard as well, but I think it'll just consolidate
mostly on those guys and more to Saquon.
I don't. I mean Hollywood.
I guess it. Would be right.
Saquon's honestly a pretty good pick right now.
Yeah, I like, I like Saquon. He's taking.
A lot of Saquon. I like Saquon mid second.
Yeah, I'm fine with him. Sure.
Saquon or HN pack? Saquon and we have Saquon ahead.
OK, there you go. Yeah, I feel like the wind is
just like whistling through this.
This like hollowed out town of risers.
That's what it sounds like. I don't know.
I don't know what what that was I heard, but I think it's the
tumbleweed. Is your is your Emmanuel Wilson
ranking? Is that just like a high degree
of confidence in Seattle drafting an early running back?
Or are you into George Helani? No, it's the I think that
they're they're A-Team that's gonna draft a running back.
And I also like Emmanuel Wilson. Like, I don't know, there
there's like this tier of best ball pick, especially early,
that's like it's you're gonna cut this guy.
These are guys we draft and cut, draft and cuts.
Yeah, main event. We, we, we draft them.
And I say, man, it's gonna be so sick to cut.
I can't wait to cut Emmanuel Wilson.
Well, guess what you can't do in best ball, You can't cut this
guy. So I don't take Emmanuel Wilson.
I take Chris Brazil or very in, you know, Zachariah Branch or
Jeremy Bernard. Like, I take all those dudes who
are pretty likely to at least be playing at the end of the year.
I I don't want to be in a position where I need Emmanuel
Wilson. I don't think he's a
particularly strong bet, even with the Seattle depth chart
being currently open. So what's your construction
then? Like if you're not.
Like if you're, if you're deferring.
A lot of. Wilson for all wide receivers?
Like are you just every draft you're just loading up on the
RV's the 1st? Few rounds I do, I think.
It's like the mid range of running back sucks so like.
Well, the mid range I I mean, do you mean like round 9 and 10?
Because I agree with you then, but like.
Yeah. I mean, I mean like, I don't
really like, I don't like the running backs for a while
starting in like round 7. Honestly, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. But you can get 33 running backs
before that pretty easily. And then like you can take we,
we don't mind like some of these like older, like like, you know,
Rashad White or an Aaron Jones and shit like that.
Like you can, you can tack that on as running back 4 and be done
like get 3 running backs tackle on one of those guys before or
you could, you can do like a Nick Singleton, you know, that
kind of thing. I think it's totally fine.
But the Emmanuel Wilson, we were like, I don't know, maybe he
like gets some run, but he's like not very good, I don't
think. And he might not be the guy
actually want, even if it is a veteran in Seattle and they're
very, very live to draft someone.
So by the end of the season, he might not matter at all.
Even if he does get early season run.
It's just like, yeah, if they don't draft someone, then I will
take Emmanuel Wilson at at an increased cost.
But I don't, I just don't think he has the upside to potentially
worth, you know, burning a roster spot and changing my
roster construction away from just like get your running backs
early. Generally right now, it's not
like you have to go like four straight running backs either.
You can go like wide receiver, wide receiver, running back,
running back, wide receiver, running back.
Like that's fine. Yeah. 4 receivers on the Broncos
in the wake of the Waddle trade. Troy Franklin.
Dude, the people, the people drafting.
Marvin Mims, Davis. The people drafting Troy
Franklin and Pat Bryant right now, you guys have to find God,
man. They're still getting 100%
drafted. They still go every time.
You guys, you guys got to do something else.
Actually, a quick update on Philadelphia.
They just signed Elijah Moore. Oh solved.
That's that is the most. Howie Roseman ask signing like
nobody loves a name we know more than Howie Roseman.
He's like, dude, look how high he is in the mock draft
consensus from 2000. 20. Elijah Moore in Hollywood Brown
is is some classic Howie Roseman shit right there.
Yeah, it really. Is, yeah.
Yeah, we tried it with John Dodson and that didn't work.
So what if we tried Elijah Moore?
Do you think Howie has like challenges, like personal
challenges and one of them's like trade Elijah Moore back to
The Jets? Like he's just like, I can do
that, You know what I mean? Like it's like he's he's already
beaten the video game and now he just has like random tasks that
he gets assigned. It's starting to feel like that.
I'm in a Baseball League, Pat, where one guy just only drafts
the Yankees. So sometimes the strategy is to
draft the Yankees to play them. Yeah, I mean, that's just.
There you go, that's what. I'm talking about.
It's one way to play it. Yeah, he's going to.
He's going to send Tanner McKee and Elijah Moore back back to
The Jets, get a second round pick.
We talked about Denver a little bit last week after Waddle
happened. Franklin was a no.
I mean, what does that do for Mims?
Not much. Pat Bryant, anybody?
Maybe. Is there life?
Not really. I think it's more like held me
at gunpoint and you were like one of Franklin Bryant or Mims,
you have to take one. I would take Bryant, but I don't
know. I don't see any guns.
I live in Canada. We have.
Restrictions on that kind of thing.
I thought there's a lot of guns in Canada, isn't Gunners.
Just pretty high well if you if you if you can have long guns
and you put it with the registry and you take down a moose.
But like they're not threatening me anyway.
So if, if and when if and when a hunter gets me out in the back
of their F-150, then and I start my pap Ryan exposure is gonna
start climbing until such time until such time I I merely click
Jalen Waddle and JK Dobbins can. You can you just send me your
exposures every couple days just so I know you're safe?
Yeah. I will.
You can you can live track that and if you start to see the PAP
riot number he he got out of Mexico.
Well, no, he got at least have some faith in Jacob.
He got out of Mexico. It's true at the time.
So he's proven. But where, where are you guys at
on Sutton 'cause we I don't like like Sutton.
To me I was like. I've got I've got Sutton at like
1-10. This is.
I have them higher than you, but I still have them so far below
ADP that it's a distinction without a difference.
I. Haven't been.
Go ahead, Sorry. Oh I was just going to say I'm
at 99, so like 2 rounds higher than your ranking, but that's
still 2 rounds lower than ADP so I don't.
I don't anticipate drafting them anytime soon.
I, I drafted a hyper fragile team and then I got tagged in
the spike week discord and they're kind of like, you know,
it was all, it was all fun and games, but they're like, hey,
you know what? What's up with these dusty gas
wide receivers? And I'm like, you know, I don't
know, like Josh Downs, like might add Shakur or Jayden Reid.
Actually, I think I had it on that team.
Oh yeah, that's a great team right there.
Yeah, like these guys can play like Josh.
Downs and Jayden Reid. It's like, no, those dudes are
like you're, you're like paying for, for routes or whatever.
Like I'm not paying anything. I'm not paying.
These guys are are very low. And you're also not getting that
many routes don't even run. Yeah, yeah.
But I was like searching around for us, like if I if I'm paying
for situation, that would be like drafting Courtland Sutton,
who was going in like the sixth round at the time.
That's how I felt. He was like the quintessential,
like fragile wide receiver. Before they traded a first for
Waddle. Yeah.
Totally. So I like the like Sutton cope
of Oh no, like he's gonna outscore Waddle and stuff.
Like I don't get that at all. Like he they've been trying to
move on from this guy's their wide receiver one for a while.
And guess what they just did? They traded a first.
For another guy, so I I don't, I have no interest in Sutton and I
had no interest in Sutton before and I still don't he he's
basically regressed to the talent level of Romeo Dobbs.
So like pre Waddle Sutton was just Dobbs on the Patriots, but
like on the Broncos, like a worst situation.
Like he's like an 18% targets per out run guy.
The only appeal of him was like, he will run every single route
and now I'm not even sure he will.
The only thing that does concern me about Sutton just for, for
Waddle, 'cause I, I, we had your rank up on Waddle last time.
I don't know if it's changed in a week, but it was quite quite a
bit higher, at least in my initial.
We came down, so yeah, we basically we changed all the
inputs and stuff. But then as we're going through
and the The Sims are, we're getting to see like what The
Sims think now, he wasn't really being recommended as high as I
thought he might be. So I I brought down his ranking
in the in the leg up rank. Where?
Where do you have waddle now? 41.
OK, so now, now we're. Basically 41, yeah.
So now I'm actually even a little bit higher, I'm at 39,
but we're basically the same there.
And my only concern for Waddle as it pertains to Sutton is just
Sean Payton. Historically, there's one wide
receiver that runs all the routes and everybody else
interchanges. And I assume that Waddle will be
the one who runs the the the bulk of the routes, or maybe
they just interchange less and both of them run all the routes
this year. But it is like Sutton's gonna
play axe for them, I think almost certainly.
And Waddle's gonna play slot flanker.
And so it's possible to me that you get a little bit annoyed
with the amount of routes that Sutton has.
I think Waddle will easily outscore him even if he runs
fewer routes. But it's it's just one, there's
one slight risk factor with Waddell specifically because
Waddell's never really ran all the routes.
He's always been limited. Fair.
Like even back to.
Alabama. He's had his routes limited.
Just on this he had a A4 year $92 million contract is a funny
way of moving on. I, I would note they can cut him
and save like $13 million after the season.
So this, this move, I mean, that was tradable now and they, and
they will. So this signals, I think it's,
it is Sutton's last year in Denver.
They can't move on now because of the contract that he signed,
what, two years ago? But, and they wouldn't want to.
He's a useful player, yeah, but I think Pat Bryant can do
anything Sutton can do, to be honest.
So I don't know that Pat Bryant's that good.
So I would still want Sutton over Bryant.
But you know you you're going to save 13 mil by moving on next
year and I think they do. Speaking of Sean Payton wide
receivers little trivia in the next slide.
I can't play because I've looked ahead last Sean Payton wide
receiver duo to both finish wide receiver 36 or better.
I love the ongoing bit of using T Higgins headshot silhouette.
One of these is obviously Michael Thomas.
It's it's Michael Thomas. I'm gonna guess, would he have
overlapped? I'm gonna guess and.
I'm, I'm gonna guess, Thomas and Kenny Stills.
I was gonna guess Thomas and Willie Sneed.
Oh, that's probably it. No one has it.
Meacham Henderson. Meacham was Wait, it's Moore.
No, no. OK.
Thomas started with. He started with.
It was him. Well, him and cooks.
Cooks. Is Thomas one of them?
Thomas. Yes.
OK, OK. Thomas's rookie year.
Thomas's rookie year was with Cooks and Miss Sneed, but it's
neither of them. They moved on.
Henderson. No, Henderson's too early, but
they had another guy that was fast.
Oh, Ginn, Was it Ginn? Ted Ginn, Junior.
Oh my. God disgusting all.
Right. I guess we're the free agents.
Debo picture. That's tough.
Jawan Jennings, Stefan Digs, Debo, Samuel, Tyree Kill.
I'd like to hear you guys on Jennings what happens.
What I I'd like to hear these two on Jennings because I.
Think Kyle Shanahan is giving poor character references.
It's like what I'm thinking. I think, I think Jawan Jennings
has like Kyle Shanahan's number on his cover letter and and the
new employers are calling and Kyle's like.
Giving what's What's the line from Mean Girls?
Do not trust her. She's a fugly slut.
I think that's what. Kyle Fahan is saying about John
Jennings. Dude at what point can like
these ex Shanahan receivers kind of band together and strike back
and and give him I know you know like it's it's nuts.
I, I don't know, it is, it is tough with Jennings where this
best outcome was to go back to the 49ers, so.
Yeah, but he burned his bridge by getting in like 17 different
yelling matches with his coach last year.
That's true. Yeah, I don't know.
Haven't. I haven't.
Found myself interested in Jawan Jennings.
So I have found myself interested in him but I'm now
running into like where do I hope he signs best?
Case scenario anywhere. No Houston.
Is. Houston has a huge.
Charger chargers would be solid I think.
Chargers. Cowboys.
I mean, the commanders would have been good, but the
reporting said they're not interested.
Well, they're gonna trade. They're gonna trade for IO.
They're just waiting. Oh, I mean for the Fort.
Yeah. I mean, what about what?
What about the Dolphins? I know they're never gonna pass,
but they do need receivers and Sloak has a connection to
Jennings. Better or worse there?
There's worse outcomes. There's worse outcomes at this
point. You know it'd be a good one is
the Falcons. They don't really need them,
though, because London, like, already does everything Jennings
does. Well, London plays outside.
Wouldn't you have Jennings in the slot You.
Know what? It's the Falcons.
It's London, moves inside sometimes.
They. Do like the big slot stuff and
they do the block inserting with him Saints yeah they could use
the wide receiver 2 for sure for.
Sure. Yeah, that's a.
Good. Yeah.
Who's the Who's the Saints wide receiver 2 right now?
Bug. Means.
Sounds like it's gonna be Joan Jennings.
Yeah, it should be I. Think it's just.
I think it's Yvonne Bele. Oh yeah, it is Devon but and
then but Vele is like a Jennings type too, so.
Is he? Yeah.
What is Vele? Yeah.
Is he a type of anything? Well, he's bad, but he's
definitely a Jennings type. He's like, he's like a big slot
piece. Of millennial, and we know.
That. So when I was building, when I
was building the slap model, Duvon Vele was so old, he was
the oldest guy in the cohort by so much that initially he got a
like his breakout age being 26, like completely broke the code
of what I was building. Like it took me, it took me like
probably an hour to like work through.
Like what do you even do with the 26 year old breakout age?
Like to, to figure out how to fold that in.
It was insane. Devon Vele, Same wide receiver
too. For now, Diggs, I assume people
are waiting and seeing on his legal status.
Yeah. Sam Sam Sherman is in the
comments. I mean Dicks, Dicks was 12th in
the NFL amongst qualifying players in yards per out run.
I don't think he's got a ton left.
I don't think he's like great. But assuming his legal status,
assuming his legal status ends up being for the NFLA Nothing
burger, he will sign and. I think he's gonna sign this
summer and play for someone, yeah.
Yeah, I agree. What do, what do you guys say?
I mean, I think with Devo Jennings and digs, we're
reaching a point where they might just wait until after the
draft and sign post draft since it's a fairly deep wide receiver
class. But I mean, Tyreek's the guy
where you're, you're actually worried that he just doesn't
play this year. Well, and the teams.
The teams are incentivized to wait until post draft because
you sign them post draft you don't give up a comp pick.
Right, right, right. Yeah, good point.
So if you've already waited it out at this point you only count
against the compact formula if it's pre draft.
Yeah, Ballers, Ballers. Kamara Theo Johnson, all right,
Debo Samuel, Trey Benson, Michael Pennix, Bucky Irving
Diggs, Woody Marks Jennings, who stands out.
What a gross, what a gross list of players.
Bucky's getting closer to where I'm getting interested.
I felt like this this fall was very predictable just based on
the the tenor of how people discuss him.
I'd be really interested if we could get him into like the mid
4th and you're, you're pricing in a lot of the role concerns.
And then you, you just get the upside of like, what if he's
just way better than Kenny Gainwell because he's healthy
and not coming off of this eight week injury And, and you, you
get the role that he had at the beginning of last year.
So I hope he keeps falling. He's not quite at my ranking
yet, but I think he's getting there soon.
Yeah, I would. I would like mid 4th mental
eight 4th Bucky. I just I love I love being
vindicated on a prospect take three years later of being lower
than everyone of Bucky Irving watching Bucky Irving blocker
stuff me. This is crazy.
I looked this up today, but are you?
Indicated because I don't think you're vindicated this high.
Yeah, like that he's already. He was a day, he's a day three
back who's currently going in the fourth round.
He. Said he's being vindicated on a
prospect take years later. I was right about.
Vindicated at all? Don't think he vindicated he's.
Substantially better he's. Still not vindicated like he can
fall another round and you won't be vindicated.
He can, he can fall 7 more rounds.
He's still better than what you paid for him.
Subjective is a matter of opinion.
Bucky Irving 0 touches inside the five last year, 0 for a
whole season. Crazy.
Not much of a whole season 'cause.
He no, I guess I. Guess the whole the whole season
is kind of a fun. That's the part of there that.
Falls down. Still, a lot of stars is into
Benson. Yeah, the thing with Benson, I
think. He might never play in the NFL
again. Yeah, he might just Jeff Muller
who he mentioned that the meniscus terror or maybe it was
Deepak, Jonah, someone mentioned that.
No, it was Mueller. It.
Was Mueller, Yeah. The fact that he never returned
from the meniscus terror is pretty concerning for like
structural or cartilage damage or whatever.
He. Used the term degenerative knee.
OK. So yeah, so we're, you know, and
then this is a team that signed Tyler LG, that reworked Connor's
contract. So he's still there.
I think we can't count on anything with Benson.
The I don't think. Benson, the trade, the Trey
Benson camp caught percentage, I would put it like 41%.
I think you'd want to fold in some kind of like training camp
pup. OK.
Sure, season ending IR thing. Because yeah, I think they
could. Probably get I'll I'll I'll
change it to I'll say I'll put it this way, 41% chance he's not
on the act of roster in the first week of the season, but
some. Over.
I'll take either Cot. Or, or yeah, I think he's like
50. Fifty 5050.
Sure, yeah, yeah. Added healthy scratch.
You might even get up to like 60 or 70.
I think we have him in the 200 and I think I'm I'm gonna make a
note to to lower him. Anything on Camara at this
point? No he can't.
He's like so, so washed. Yeah, it's not.
I don't think he's all right. NFL drafts, guys, These are new
players that we that we can get excited about.
This is. We need this now we can have
some fun. This is exactly this show.
I listened to last week's show and I'm so jealous.
It was like there you guys had all these great conversations
and I was like, I, I, I thought maybe I'd be able to jump on and
then it turned out I couldn't. And man, this this shows
depressing. Itself.
Well, because because this week we're sticking to the slides.
That's the problem. The slides are weighing us down.
This is the most we've. Ever let the?
Slides guide us, and it's leading us to talk about Jawan
Jennings and Trey Benson's degenerative knee.
Actually have a take. I actually have a take I'd like
to fire off as we as we get here.
Please. Yeah, get us off course.
Omar Omar Cooper Junior is the rookie wide receiver for people
who like to take veteran wide receivers in fantasy football.
Is he cause like Omar Cooper, like is, is also like a, a, a
per route's numbers are way better than overall production
guy. He's like a really, really high
missed tackles force guy. Like I, I, I'm kind of into Omar
Koop. I don't know.
I don't know why everybody in like the data community has kind
of written him off. I I think he's kind of
interesting. I would draft him around one of
the NFL drafts, but team looks like they're going to.
Somebody could, Somebody could. He's interesting in that I have
to be interested because he's probably going to go round one.
That's how interesting he is. Do would you happen to guess was
a higher career yards for outrun between Carnell Tate and Omar
Cooper junior? Well, this will also aligns with
my brand as you know. Don't.
Don't look at the fact that one of them played an extra year and
the other. One played next to Jeremy.
Smith But if you don't factor that in.
Not just Jeremiah Smith, I mean he's like his freshman year was
with Harrison there and Abuka and then Abuka's there his
sophomore year with Smith and then Smith's there his his final
season, which was actually really impressive.
So I don't know who cares. I couldn't care less.
The other thing with Amour Cooper is that like, and and I
think this really matters when you're looking at efficiency
stuff like do something as an underclassman, do something as
an underclassman. He just wasn't.
He didn't. He wasn't.
Sir Rot was more productive than him when they were both
underclassmen. If he goes round one, it's
Buffalo, Seattle. It could be pretty sexy.
Yeah, I literally just took him this morning in a mock draft on
on the ETR pod. So like I and we have and we're
ahead of of ADP. He's a great yeah.
I mean, he it's remarkable. He just can't make me excited.
ADP hasn't. I'll.
I mean, like, I like him way more than I like Matthew Golden
last year. Like by a mile and and Matthew
Golden steamed up to round 7 and I think Golden's the worst
player that's ever been drafted in round one, not the wide
receiver position. I mean, it's it's me harder.
I like I like Henry Ruggs profile considerably more.
Dorsett was a round one wide receiver.
Yeah, well, OK, Dorsett was probably actually worse.
That might be the only one that's.
Worse. John Baldwin, AJ Jenkins.
Dorsett was like radicalizing for me.
Like that was, I was like, what? Like there?
Like there is truly an edge this guy around one thing.
I remember when Gregson drafted Dorsett and I was already like,
fuming, 'cause I, I, I had like a whole bunch of players that
was like on my radar that I hope the Colts take.
Dorsett could couldn't have been anywhere near it.
Like he wasn't even close to my, my radar.
And Gregson comes out the next morning and he's like, we
couldn't believe he was there. We had him ranked in our top 15
and it was like. What world?
Are you living in like Philip Borsett I?
Don't know to. Tell their Lambeau Field fans
that they have drafted a wide receiver in the first round.
They had to do it, Cooper. Yeah, but but point is, Cooper's
going in round one. It's happening and we all need
to just get on board with that. And so if you want to fade him
in dynasty, go for it. But like in best ball, this guy
is going to be like a round eight pick in the summer, so you
might as well take. Yeah, you might as well take.
In round 11 now, because you're not, you're not going to want to
take. If you don't like him in his
cost today, you're certainly not going to like his cost in July.
And, and his draft stock's gotten more and more like locked
in. I, you know, it's not a
guarantee he goes first round, obviously, but it seems pretty
likely now that he's at least in that, you know, early second
round range, if not late 1st and early on, you know, things are
kind of fluid. Like people were like, oh,
Malachi Fields might go first round after the Senior Bowl and
stuff like that. At first you're like, OK, like
first round buzz is like we're gonna we're gonna stay
skeptical. Yeah, what?
What's up with the Malachi Fields stuff?
That guy stinks. Yeah, I'm not a big Malachi
Fields guy, but but yeah, I mean, it's at this point it
feels like a drum beat. There's enough enough weight
behind it that I do think Cooper probably does go late 1st so.
He's fourth highest now on Mock Draft Database.
He's flipped Boston and Concepcion.
Yeah, that's interesting. I would much rather have
Concepcion. Me too.
Oh, I would. I would too.
I, I, I would for sure. I like Cooper more than Boston,
though. I think I do.
Where's Ted Hurst? That same draft.
I don't, I don't really dislike that take.
I mean, I think, I think, I think that's I might agree with
you. Anybody for Ted Hurst?
They too. We.
Like Ted Hurst. Yeah, we like Ted Hurst.
I like Ted Hurst a lot. Yeah, it's right.
Like Ted Hurst, the name. That's right.
I I like I like Bryce Lance. I I'm assume Korean.
Does big does stunning and I don't.
I'm not a big Bryce. Lance OK, Well, OK, not that
surprising. I'd be alone on Bryce, Lance
Island And Mike. Washington, you like you like
it. You like an FCS guy.
He's big and fast. That's stunning.
I'm a simple man Simple joy, you know?
Everything in life can be distilled down to the beauty
that you find in it, and the simpler your pleasures, the more
joy you will consistently. Find Jacob.
Jacob says Davis has the type. Davis is like he breaks into
play DoH. Yeah, you.
Know. I'm like, I'm like Davis as a
type. And he goes in the back to grab
13 Playboy magazines with the same model on it.
And it's all, it's all members of the Lance.
It's, well, it's all members of the Lance family.
It's all, it's all different. It's all yeah.
Related Malachi Fields is on the next slide.
By the way, the draft fallers since you guys brought.
Him well, let's let's talk through the I mean, Mike
Washington. Now I'm I'm having to, I'm like,
this is like the worst thing ever because I'm like like semi
capitulating every day and then he like rises.
More Well, welcome to my August experience of Matthew Golden.
Stay strong. Stay strong.
Nike Washington. But like, I am factoring in all
the information that we all have.
Like, I'm not, I'm not trying to be like stubborn and put my head
in the sand. I'm trying to be like, yeah, it
looks like this guy could seriously go around too.
Like, it's plausible. It's not entirely the question
that he goes like 32 to the Seahawks.
It's it could happen, but also like I'm pretty sure fucking
sucks can. We.
Were we allowed to still talk about that like he?
Didn't do anything he doesn't but you Corrine, you have to
acknowledge that all the absolutely.
Mogged by Seth McGowan on New Mexico State.
Yeah, because. Vast majority of our research
indicates this stuff doesn't matter though if he ends up
being. If.
He's the 32nd week in the NFL draft.
No it doesn't. Yes it does.
You guys, you guys, you guys are so full of shit.
If he is the 32nd pick to the Seahawks, he's gonna be a
seventh round pick in fantasy. Sure.
Yeah, yeah. And he'll be probably bad.
Well, we can. Start.
You know who else was the late 1st?
Rashad, Benny and well, Sony. Michelle I guess.
Had one decent year, but not his rookie year and not any of his
other years. Him $2,000,000 People forget
one. Million well and and and a lot
of good that did for our world. I'm I'm betting on like well, I
mean, obviously I like I like questioning junior cause of
cause of the Ras, but I just think he's gonna go high in the
NFL draft. I think that.
I think the the. I agree with you that that's
probably. Happened the poor, the poor
quality of the class. By the way, if you got CE HS
rookie season at Mike Washington Junior's prices right now, you'd
be the number one advance rate player.
You'd be the guy you. CE H was at least the one thing
you can say about CE H is he was a good pass catcher.
Like unequivocally was Washington is not.
With pick 32, this doesn't include the landing spot, which
obviously. Would be great.
He's also 32 to go 32. He's projected to go like at the
end of round. Two, I think he was 69 last time
I checked. Pick 32, his top comp would be
TJ Yeldon, then Cam Akers, Damien Harris, Miles Sanders and
CJ pro size. That's that's if he thinks.
How is Michael not in the comp list?
All right, let me, let me run. Let me run him.
And how? Is Christine Michael not in the
round two complex I. Don't know that I have Kristen
Michael in here I don't have Kristen Michael in here that's.
OK. Yeah, he he.
Previously, he's got to be in the left.
Spiritually, I'm going to add. Him.
All Mike Washington stuff so they they stay calm.
Yeah. God no, hang on, I have to back
out. Mike Washington is the first
round pick. Look, I, I also took Mike
Washington in the ETR mock this morning.
So I, I do, I will acknowledge that a certain point and I took
him to like 202 in the. Rookie I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna. I would.
Like run. Him on my stuff as a first round
pick because I've not done this yet.
Yeah, at a certain point in rookie drafts and stuff where
you're like, hey, I'm, I'm betting that he goes way higher
than he should go and I can benefit from that in a class
where there's not that many great picks, sure, but I don't
know, I just, it's like it's, it's hard for me to get away
from the fact that best ball like I just don't believe in
this player. Like and and like he could be
1/3, he could be a third round pick still, that's where he's
projected to go. Like if you go to mock draft
database, he's still in the early 3rd.
He's wow, 65. So I this is this takes true for
like one more day and he'll be a second round pick tomorrow.
But you know, it's, it's not like like Jadarian prices at 46.
If he had that, then I would I'd be more on board with with him.
I think where he goes now but I just keep lagging behind.
Fair enough. Stowers, Bernard, we talked
about Lance. Anything on Bernard's a great
pick. He like, I don't, I'm not like
that much. I think Bernard is like kind of
like a John Mechi on the Alabama wide receiver scale.
But he's he's somewhat interesting.
Got blocked out by a lot of really good teammate competition
early in his career and he's probably gonna go round two and
it's just free. So I'm, I'm, I'm definitely into
him. There's so many guys at the end
of drafts that are like probably gonna they have.
Not all of them will be second round picks, obviously, but I
think a chunk of them will be and you just get them for free.
Just get them for free, yeah. They're not gonna be free if
they go second round. Like no that.
What are we doing? It's it's it's wild.
That group of yeah, Brazil, Bernard, I don't know if Serrat
actually goes as high, but probably day 2 branch is
probably going round two. Yeah, it's a nice it's a nice
group. I love stacking two or three of
those on the end of every draft. Yeah, me too.
Lance, I, I'll, I'll look at 'cause I think he's risen up the
board a little bit. Look, he looks like a little bit
more likely to go round three than the last time I plugged him
in. So maybe he's.
Do you have any interest in Lance Jacob or IS?
Like in theory, sure. It's just that there's, there's
so many guys at the end of this end of drafts who I feel better
about is both prospects and his draft capital projections that
it's like hard for me to get to Bryce Lance.
So I, I would be like actively trying to mix him in 'cause like
just even if guys that are past 200, like I like Sirot more, I
like Brazil more, I like Branch more, I like Bernard more, I
like Jacoby Lane more, I like Ted Hurst more.
So I like Antonio Williams more. Then then maybe I'd, no, I like
Skylar Bell more too. And then maybe I'd get to Bryce
Lance. Yeah.
All right. Fallers, Fields, Elijah Serrat,
Jonah Coleman, Emmett Johnson, Jacoby Lane Coleman.
The highest ADP of the group here.
Well, Coleman is the only running back I actually like
after Love, but he's the one that the NFL doesn't.
We sure I I mean no. But I'm getting he's.
Trending. He's trending in the wrong
direction. I mean, when when things opened,
he looked like he was gonna be round two, maybe round 3.
And now he's looking more like round three, maybe round 4,
which is definitely the danger zone.
I mean, if he goes round four and he goes to a spot with a
wide open path to taking over a depth chart, I'm, I'm fine with
him at this ADP. But you're, you're trending
toward the range of like, oh, he, he went and he's like the RV
3 or he's a clear backup and then it's just a dead pick.
So it's, it's tough. Yeah, and you know, like last
year, right, we're like, guys, this running back class is so
deep. You know, some of them are going
to get pushed down. It's actually OK that like Cam
Scataboo went round four like that.
He's he's got better draft capital than it seems like
basically, I think that was a good take.
Said the same thing about baseball.
Tooten didn't produce as a rookie, but guess what?
He's a starting running back on the Jaguars now.
So good take. If Jonah Coleman falls to round
four in this class, that's so gross.
It's so gross like that. That also means something like
this is a really thin running back class and not a strong
draft class overall. Like this is a spot where if
there was a running back who like wasn't good but tested
really well, for example, he might go round two, you know, so
like Jonah Coleman, I, I don't know, I'm worried like he's I'm
worried he's not really a sufficient NFL athlete to be
honest. Like he he couldn't have run a
465469, couldn't have done that. Neither could.
Yeah, he ran a 465 at the combine.
That's what I'm asking for. He he skipped testing.
Scatabo didn't skip testing yet. Awesome jumps and a 465.
Give me something. Sufficient Coleman.
Coleman. He skipped it like I'm it.
It makes me worried he's a bigger back.
He's kind of like slower on tape to my eyes, so yeah it.
Makes me wondering like what if he's like a 476?
That's and 476 just doesn't cut it.
You know, that's that's like late day three stuff.
So if that's what if teams are like, we think he's 476 and then
he didn't disprove that notion. This that's like potentially
like cataclysmic for his outlook.
Yeah. What if he goes to?
Oh, he ran that as pro day. I'm sorry, maybe it was his pro
day. What if he goes to Cincinnati?
Not I mean, I don't mind that in dynasty.
I don't like that in best ball at all.
Rams. Why is terrible?
Why is that's awful? Yeah, that's really bad.
Why is Jacoby Lane falling just. Just not getting a good
projected draft capital. I really, I just really like
him. I, I just, maybe, I think maybe
I have an internal USC bias that I need to hone in on, but I, I
just like, really like Jacoby Lane.
The first year that they all played together, Branch Lane and
and Lemon Lane was the most efficient per route.
I kind of like Lane, but I'm worried about his draft capital.
It's also a weird archetype of player for today's NFL.
Like a 64 outside only guy doesn't fit every team for sure.
He's down to 109 on the consensus board and that's
that's where some of my lack of interest comes in.
Yeah. So.
How how like? Sirat is like like to me he's
like a like a Imanor type of play where like he might go
around 4 or something, but I think I could see him like on a
depth chart with the needs of receiver like on Miami, Like he
could be the wide receiver one on Miami.
Why not? Yeah, you know, yeah.
People really want us to talk about the puka news.
Should we talk about the puka news?
Yeah I mean this guy should just stop leaving his house.
Bro does it feels like every time Puka Nukua leaves his house
he does something dumb. If this is true, this is like.
It. I and the bite mark does not
look like a human mouth, for what it's worth.
Like on the picture. So if.
That's the only part he's denied.
I don't, I don't think, I'm not sure that he is specifically
denied making anti. Well, I mean, based on what we
saw last year, it's pretty easy to believe that.
He would make and just. Medic comments this this is.
This guy's about to get $200 million, man.
Stay inside your house. Same thing for Rashi Rice, Bro,
if you just stop committing crimes, you are gonna get a bag.
Will you guys stop committing crimes, please?
What are we doing? I mean, this photo, the one
thing I'll the one thing I'll say for puka is like again, this
this bite mark photo, like does not look at all like a human
mouth, but like, I don't know who's who's who's to say.
I guess he he seems like a very unreliable decision maker most
certainly. And he seems like he should,
like, spend some time, like consulting with, like a rabbi in
the area about no longer just, like, making extremely hateful
comments to watch those. People, you gotta, you gotta,
you gotta. Maybe this comment that he may
have denied the anti-Semitism but not the bike.
Let me take a look. The attorneys are denying
everything. OK.
Yeah, he denies that Nikua. This is per Pro Football talk.
Catherine who I think is his lawyer denies Nikua made
anti-Semitic comments. But I think I saw something that
he, Levi Mccatherine, dismissed the conduct as quote, horseplay.
Oh my God bro. Come on.
Oh, the group. Yeah, the group was partying.
There was some horseplay resulting in the bite.
OK, so they're not denying the bite.
Oh man. You just like, you know how?
You know how when I say like, I like when these what stories
come out about the wide receivers being Total Divas?
This is not what I meant like what I mean is what I would
like. What I would like is for
Pukunukua to like the story to be Pukunukua spent $2.7 million
on like a Fortnite chain or something like the most like
absurd. Davis, We can't rule that out.
We can't. We can't rule it out.
But what I, what I, what I certainly don't mean is you.
When I, when I say acting like a diva, I mean more Randy Moss or
Terrell Owens or Keyshawn Johnson than Antonio Brown.
Like if you're, if you're thinking of of which you're
thinking of which order, it's not the Antonio Brown order.
It's more writing a book called Throw Me the Damn Ball.
That's how. He dresses.
You want him to dress like a diva more than act like one.
I have. Certainly.
What I read Jacob was one of
these tweets said denied all claims.
So I took that to men. OK, I don't like the comment
about horseplay. Like not not loving that I.
Don't love that. That's not what I want to hear.
I don't want to hear all. We're just horsing around.
We were just having fun. Well, there's this thing bite
each other. Horse around with our teeth out.
So like. What?
Dracula does that's. Not cool.
They're all spending time with like, new celebrities, like Gen.
Z celebrities. Who are like, well, he hangs out
with Aiden Ross. Don't hang out with Aiden Ross.
Stop that. Yeah.
These are bad people. Like it used to be.
It used to be you'd go and be a famous football player and you'd
go be around like a list movie stars, right, 'cause that was
the type of society that you've gotten access to.
Now it's like, let me go on model.
Yeah. And now it's like, let me go be
with the worst fucking people on kik.com.
The only independent content creator you're allowed to hang
out with if you're Pook and Akua is Kay Adams.
Like you can't go anymore online than Kay Adams if she wants to
interview you and like don't and don't bite Kay Adams do not do
that. Definitely don't horse around
with her, but like I like what would you what what if if the
prediction market said like 1% and you could you could buy for
one cent Puka Nikua appears on a Nick Fuentes stream in the next
4 years. Like, like, it's like, stay off
the Internet puka. Stay off the Internet, Stay off.
The Internet, he says, is. He is.
He takes a prediction market prop on a Nick Fuentes puka.
Niku, I shouldn't. I shouldn't be on the Internet.
Either I'm not in the NFL. That's too much, I.
Can go, I can horse around all I like.
Bukanaku is causing me to have introspection.
It's it's good advice for all of us.
Get off the Internet, Go, go, go, go for a walk.
Put your phone in the in the desk drawer.
Go. It's good advice for Pukanakua
and for. All of us get outside.
You know the weather's turning spring.
Spring is in the air. It is felon maxing.
Puka's felon maxing. This is all I want to say.
You don't want to be. Felon maxing No, don't Felon
Max. Yeah, crime maxing maybe.
No, don't do it. Yeah.
Enough. Enough.
He's like so close to a massive contract extension.
These guys need to just figure it out man.
He would top. He would top JSN.
For. Sure, he got $180 million
incoming. Yeah.
Don't horse around. All right.
Next slide. News and Notes Kelsey back Wentz
Wow. Mina Kimes Davis voice Love it
on the Carson Wentz line Tanner, Ricky Andy Dalton Jake Bobo
Kenny McIntosh Isaac to Slav Brian Robinson to Atlanta.
Travis Homer Nice little hat tip to you, Davis on the Wentz note,
Right? What an indictment of the NF LS
development pipeline. You know, I do hope someday to
meet Mina Kimes and just to very casually ask her her opinion on
Riley Leonard. Just be like, what Do you think
Riley Leonard has been served by the Indianapolis Colts
organization or do you think he has been underserved?
I would ask her if she really thinks Wowie Zowie is the best
Pavement album or if she just thinks it matches the aesthetic
of her background. This Tesla thing.
Yeah, like you think Enchanted's way better.
Don't you guys think this Tesla thing is kind of sneaky?
No, Raymond, we, we all kind of think it's a weak wide receiver
class before it is coming back from injury.
The guy had what, 19 touchdowns on 20 targets last season?
I think based on on my quick napkin math, I and I know Tesla
is like basically just like what if Bryce Lance was white and
went to Hilldale College? Like I I know this is just a
very me type player, not productive his final season at
Arkansas, but whatever. Not, not let's not just the end
of that season. I believe he was very productive
at Hilldale. OK.
And chaos. I believe he was very productive
at Hilldale. Yeah, and I I believe him and
Curly put up great stats in Oklahoma when?
We were updating the I'm. Requesting.
I believe he was productive at Hilldale.
That's so good. It's giving me, it's giving me
Aaron Mallette vibes. It's giving me what if Aaron
Mallette got to play in this version of the NFL?
That's a that's a deep cut for real Rd. of his heads from back
in the day. Would you like?
How many routes would he have to run for you to be interested?
Like if he ran like. I'm already interested.
I'm all I'm already in. Like 300 routes would be enough
for him to make an impact you think?
So 300 routes here, how many do you he'll?
Run 300. 14 touchdowns, probably on three. 100 'cause he ran 296
routes last year. He's going to run way.
He's going to run 5. 100 he's not going to run 5.
Hundred a bunch of nothing. He's not running 500 unless
Jameson and Almanra get hurt because they're not going to
have three wide. Receivers on 500 routes on.
A team that runs that much 12% now, yeah.
And it doesn't matter. He doesn't do anything.
He's going to have, he's going to have 18 targets for 18
catches and 18 touchdowns, but like nothing else.
I mean, if he gets his 18 touchdowns, you're gonna have
want to Adam. I did look at he was actually
quite productive at Hildale. He had 13. 13 That's what I'm
saying. That's what I'm saying, brother.
Very productive at Hilldale, did you know?
ADP chasing would like to issue a correction, yes.
Isaac Tesla he was. You do.
You do, in fact, got he. Was named he was named wait for
this Davis. He was named second team, All
great Midwest Athletic Conference, not even first.
Apologize. Williams and apologize to Isaac
Tesla. I would just like to give Davis
credit for being vindicated on a prospect take to.
Your land. I, I, I really, I want to mean
this very seriously. It seems like I'm doing a bit,
but I, I like think that he is a very good pick for two reasons.
The first thing I do think he could scale up in routes and
two, they have nothing behind him, so if he can play at all,
he's got like pretty good. I mean they have nothing behind
James and Williams because the nothing includes.
Mr. Hildale, think of him like Andre Yoshi vas with A10 Ras.
Does that do anything for you? No, 'cause I don't give a shit
about Ras at the wide receiver position.
It has no. Correlation to production.
Actually, it does. There's a negative correlation.
It is a negative correlation when you control for draft
capital. What if you do without
controlling for draft capital? The correlation's actually
positive and the draft. He got drafted higher than he
should have because he tested well, yeah.
Well, well, not only that they traded, they traded future.
I mean, how do you wait? Yeah, and that was?
That Isaac Tislaw's literally why draft capital production is
negatively correlated because. Goofy NFL teams do shit like
this. Yeah, but.
He didn't do anything outside of Hilldale.
Obviously until he ran a 9.92 rest he wasn't going to get
drafted very highly. So that's why we know his name.
We shouldn't triple count it. What do you guys have, Kelsey
ranked among tight ends? Pretty high.
Kelsey, I just picked him. He was the he was the tight end
three last year in points per game.
Wow. Did you guys see the Roto patent
Denny segment? It was like exactly what you
would want of a roto patent Denny segment.
It was incredible. No, I haven't seen that.
Yet they were. They were I.
Put that on like 5 minutes before this podcast and then.
They were, they were just talking about Kenyan Sadiq and
how he's never produced and never done anything.
And they were like going through the other tight ends in your
room and he was like, they're like, yeah, like clearly,
clearly Jake Ferguson is gonna outscore him.
And they were like Travis Kelsey will triple his production and
goes. Goes 2 rounds after him.
Like will at least triple it. He like, will pretty easily
triple Kenya on Sadiq's production, right?
Like it like, not even not even an upset that that happens.
Like, Travis Kelsey is gonna look slow.
He's gonna drop some passes. And then you're gonna it's gonna
be Week 14. You're gonna check.
He's gonna be like, it's Week 14.
He has 764 yards and seven touchdowns.
How did that happen? He's looked terrible the whole
time. Name of the game.
That's right, when I get to Walkington.
Yes, I, I'm very, I'm very excited about this segment
actually. Yeah, 'cause I wanted to get
Pat's thoughts on this. So the new Colts tight ends.
I I've been thinking about this all week and I think I've now
firmly come around to they paid Rashad White nothing.
Rashad White is giga ass at running the ball.
Did we actually come all the way back around to If they don't
take Jeremiah Love, JCM actually is going to be a good fantasy
pick again. Yeah.
Yeah, cuz at 1st at first I thought the Rashad White thing.
Was just a huge if for him. Yeah, it's just a huge if.
Why was the Rashad White thing so bad?
'Cause 'cause he can be deployed in a three, he can be deployed
in a three down roll and he's boys with Jayden Daniels, which
I think does carry weight. He's also not terrible at the
things that Jacory Croskey Merit isn't gonna be doing at all.
So like. Right, but that's why I don't
really care. It's like they're separate and
distinct entities. Well, he just makes like, first
of all, he makes Jacory Croskey Merit's floor quite a bit lower
because like if they add anybody, like if they add Mike
Washington, Jacory Crosscomair could be nothing.
Because now Rashad White's coming like there is there's now
one role, right? And it's not going to be like
split up among a couple guys who aren't quite a fit for it.
There's a guy, you know, Rashad White's going to do the third
down stuff very likely. And then Jacory Crosscomairt's
competing, you know, probably with some rookie and that rookie
might be an awesome prospect and Jeremiah Love.
But even if it's not, even if it's Price or Mike Washington or
like Emmett Johnson, I think might be a problem for him.
Like, I don't know. It's just like I'm not sure you
and and I don't. Do you win that much if you get
if you bank it, if it's no Love and no, if they don't draft
anyone do do we? Is it a big win?
So I take your point. My my only push back would be
that exactly what you just said would be true if Rashad White
was just completely removed from the roster, because I still
would be like Jerome Ford and or Jerry and or Jeremy Mcnichols is
doing all the third down stuff. And if the commanders draft Mike
Washington, then there's two guys for one roll.
So I just don't think, I think White is just immaterial to JCM
mostly. Yeah, if you think if I think
Mcnichols could go away a little bit more easily than White, but
I take your. Point, like all everyone else on
this roster is an infinitely better passing down back than
JCM is like if it wasn't whited before, if it wasn't for to be
like JCM playing in those situations is is never happening
for for reasons that I think mostly have to do with JCM.
Well, it's never it's never happening on like third and 13.
But I don't I don't know that like if it was him and let's say
in a world where it's just like him and Chris Rodriguez were
like the kind of the two main backs here, like they they
could. Like, but I just don't think an
NFL team would ever do that. Well, they're doing this unless
they aren't. This, this makes sense.
This is like, this is like to me like, it's like actually a
pretty good backfield they put together here for.
Nothing. This is a This is if this is
their week 1 backfield. Like it's like a problem.
No, they're going. To be like anything on running
backs and this is what you came up with.
Yeah, it's it's pretty good. They have like, they have two
explosive backs who are going to be next to Jane Daniels Ford and
Krosky Merritt. Ford is not explosive.
He's he's. More efficient than you think.
When? When are we talking like from
what? From the 2020 we're doing.
Jerome, we're doing Jerome Ford propaganda in the Big 26,
brother. I'm gonna need you to shut it
the fuck down. Dude, I don't.
Want Jerome Ford? No, Jerome.
Ford not explosive. It's fast, guy.
No, no, Chesley a Mass. Take Jacob.
I, I don't Jerome Ford was rock solid in 2024 and he doesn't get
the respect that he deserves. But I, I think this, I, I
guarant, I'm willing to bet like whatever you'd like that if they
don't draft a running back on day one or day 2 and that this
is their backfield, they'll be top ten in EPA per rush.
I'll I'll happily book that. I mean, you're all you're saying
is Jaden Daniels is good. You're saying Jaden Daniels is
good? Yeah, yeah.
And they got a guy to pass block for him, and they got two guys
to run fast through wide open lanes.
That's all you need. They're going to be fine, but I
think they're going to take Jeremiah Love.
I have both. I I take more umbrage with your
with your positive ranking on white than your negative ranking
on JCM. Well, I think white to me like
so here's here's one thing I don't think Chris Rodriguez is
any good. Like to Davis's point, he's been
put on the practice squad. You know, more times we can
count with it while staying awake.
And I'm gonna. I'm gonna find the actual
number. You have, you know, Jacory
Kroski Merit coming in. I like Jacory Kroski Merit.
Last year I was a big supporter of of drafting him.
We didn't know what he was and he was, he was like tearing up
training camp and people were super excited about and then
they trade Brian Robinson and it's like, this guy's going to
be our starter. That was, they rolled out the
red carpet like, OK, here's the job.
And he didn't really take the job because he was a rookie.
We still like kind of got there a little in week 16 or 17.
When did he actually spike? Yeah, the 25 he.
Had 25 points in week 17 just. For yeah, so, so we kind of got.
There. But this, this is the thing with
This is why the rookie bets are so great because like, we can be
wrong and still kind of get there right.
But I think we were wrong that Jacory Croskey, Merritt, the
buzz was going to lead to anything substantial like it.
It didn't. He also had 10 for 82 and a
touchdown in week one. That's what likes.
Me. Is that like it started well,
they won easily and they still got away from it?
Right, So going into the second year, I think that there's a lot
more risk of, I mean, frankly, whoever else they draft, like
could Jacory Croskey Merrick get phased out for Caitlin Black?
Like Yup, easily. Or whoever else, any of these
other guys that we would have viewed last year, like Jacory
Croskey, Merrick, it's one of one of those guys could just
come in and and be that dude. Now where I think Rashad White
is enough of like he does enough of the things that are helpful
for an NFL team to like run their offense.
He does those things. I think he stays out on the
field most likely. And you know, he's he's like a
super, super boring back, but I don't know.
He has he has some ability to consolidate touches.
We've seen him do it in the past.
When, well, when everybody else is terrible or when they get
hurt, I got news for the lost job.
I, I don't know. I, I, I think, I think that I
think JCM is, is a substantially better rusher than than Rashad
White is like JC Ms. numbers last year were fine.
It's just Rodriguez were also really good.
I think Rodriguez can can run the Dang ball and I think JC Ms.
fine. More of my issue with White is
like he's 0 if they draft Jeremiah Love and I think that
they are probably going to. So 1117 seems I, I guess it just
seems to me like unnecessary risk to take on for a guy who
has a pretty easy path to going to 0.
The one thing that's positive for all these guys is if they
don't get love, they only have one day to pick.
They don't have, and they don't have a round two or a round
four. They only have the round three
pick of 71. So if they, if love goes the
Titans or Giants, you're sweating 1 meaningful pick.
Otherwise, they can't draft running back until round 5.
So I, that's, that's the upside batter.
I, I have, I have both these guys behind ADP just 'cause I
mean, what we just talked about, I think it's gonna be a pretty
gross committee. White didn't get paid anything.
And I don't know, like, I mean, you said at the beginning,
right, you were like, what do you win if you win?
I think you win not that much with any of these guys.
And you, you could lose a lot because they could just draft
Jeremiah Love and then they're all, and they're all screwed.
If, if Love survives, who would you, who would you have if they
dodged Jeremiah Love, who would you rank the highest out of the
backfield? I guess White you would I'd be
JCM. Probably JCM, but I just think
JCM if they if they survive, what like The thing is if they
draft like, I mean, you know, in the fifth round or whatever they
draft Katron Allen, then I will have white ranked ahead, right?
Like any of these got any of these like 2.
There's a bunch of like kind of two downy type of profiles that
I think would challenge to Corey Croskey Merritt even as like a
fifth round pick. So if he if he gets out and they
don't really draft anybody, then yeah, I'll have him ranked ahead
of White because at that point he profiles as their lead
runner. But.
White profiles as their lead runner.
No it no JCM does if. They.
Oh yeah. Yeah, if they don't like, but
like K Tron, I think K Tron Allen's probably a better rusher
than Jacory, Kroski, Merritt. I, I don't think I believe that,
but it's like plausible. I I mean, so Siberian, Siberian
dresses, yeah, No, it might be. Looking at that at the end of
the year, you know, like concerning.
You know, yeah, I mean. I think this it it it's probably
at that point would be like a three headed backfield, right?
It would be like K Tron's our power back and JC Ms. our speed
back and whites are receiving back and they all.
It would be what it was. It would be what it was last
year with like, right? Where was Mcnichols is Whites,
Mcnichols and K Tron is Rodriguez, JCM is JCM and all of
them are pretty meaningless. Like so Siberian said, why would
white go to 0? If they take love, you'd still
be the I don't think he would be the primary backup.
Like Rashad White is like the worst rusher ever.
Like he's he's terrible. Like a like he's a receiving
back who every time he gets a starting role is more than a
receiving back. He like loses that role.
He lost it to Bucky Irving. He lost it to Sean Tucker last
year. Like I I just you got
$2,000,000. Like, I guess I just thought
that White getting less money than Emmanuel Wilson would be
enough to finally stop hearing about Rashad White as more than
a. 3rd now think you're overselling a bit how bad he is
as a runner. I mean he like 2 years ago he
had 48 rush yards over over expected.
I mean, it's not like Jerome Ford levels of explosiveness,
but that's not bad. Get a 40% success rate like
that. It's it's over expected.
You know, I don't have the number from, I don't think he
qualified last year or no, he did.
He was -28 last year, which is not good.
But like Bucky Irving was at -126 you know, we like him.
Pacheco was below him. Hubbard was below him.
Like Emmanuel Wilson, your boy was at -27 so like.
Well, that was all on one 9 -, 19 yard carry.
You know, fair you got to, you got to factor that in.
I don't, I don't think White is like, you know, tripping over
his own feet level bad. He's not explosive.
He takes like too long to get going.
He sort of sits in the backfield for a second before he goes.
It's really obnoxious to watch. But he's not like the worst
runner. That's that's the part.
I just think you're overselling how bad he is.
He's not horrendous and he is decent as a pass catcher, so
he's like a touch consolidator. As a pass catcher, I'll give him
decent. As a pass catcher, I, I don't
think I'm overselling how bad he is as a runner and I and I think
that the NFL agrees with. Me right.
No explosive. Sign me up.
I I think that the most important I don't know, the NFLI
think that the NFL agrees with me.
Like I, I've like the fact that he got one year, $2,000,000
guaranteed, like when Rodriguez and Emmanuel Wilson and Keaton
Mitchell and like all these other guys got more suggest to
me that the NFL doesn't value Rashad White.
And like the fact that they don't value Rashad White and
that he has utility as a pass protector and as a receiver,
like I think says a lot about what they think of him as a
runner because he does bring other things to the table.
And so if in theory, if people viewed him as a reasonable
rusher on top of what his actual strengths are, like, why, why
didn't he get 6, seven, $8 million this year?
OK. Yeah.
Is it time for last call? Perhaps not yet.
Are we there? I can't.
I don't know. We are there slide wise.
Do I haven't I have enough in Chisholm to?
Replace the the placeholder Afton Chisholm the third will
anybody? Use Pat.
Pat gets to pick twice. Yeah, I'm going to pick twice.
Let me let me get the. ADP200 and higher.
Yeah. Oh, I, I, I got one go, go.
I got I got to help my quarterback room right here.
He just slid pass pick 200. Give me Michael Panics.
Oh that's you couldn't have let me take panics with the freaking
you got. Toy Simpson, Bro and Tua.
I know, but I got to box you out.
Are you ready, Pat? Just under the wire.
No, I am ready. I am ready.
What's going on here? I'm going to take Brian Robinson
junior, who just signed with the Falcons and has an ADP of 200
points. Yeah.
That's who I was. That's.
What it's going to. Take.
I'll take Katron Allen. Katron Allen for Shobe, I need a
wide receiver who is going to be on the field.
The list of guys who are going to be on the field are quite
low. I, I, you know what I'm gonna
take? I'm gonna take Hollywood Brown.
He he will be a man. He will be a man who exists.
Yeah. Did you guys all know that K
Tron Allen's nickname, by the way, is Fat Man?
Fat man. That helps all.
Right, I'm gonna take another wide receiver who will be on the
field and isn't FDN Chisholm and take Christian Kirk who has an
ADP of 200.1. No he doesn't.
I'm looking at him right now. He has an ADP of 197.3.
Yeah, sorry, Windows closed. Ruled I was going to take
Christian Kurt that's why I. Actually guys, that's my pick
from last week when his ADP. Was no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's who I would No, I was taking him in my head.
No, you got Chisholm. You have Chisholm.
I'll take Elijah Sarat. There you go.
OK, Chalky week in last call everybody near the you get a
second pick to replace Chisholm or are you just accepting
Chisholm? No, no, that's I took Brian,
Brian Robinson and and. Oh, you took Brian?
Oh, we took Brian Robinson, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
There we go. So I'm hoping you guys will tell
me I can watch you all together again later this week or next
week. Soon.
Soon, I hope. Probably.
I'm sure. We'll, we'll probably, why don't
we do, why don't we plan on doing that round table for
dynasty again after the draft and we have our updated rookie
rankings. I like it.
Sir articles coming out, podcast, the whole thing month
away. Yeah, I've got a check out
legendary upside. The rookie profiles sign up for
10 bucks a month. Read the running backs profiles.
2 parter there. I went deep.
I literally was like turning over stones hoping maybe I could
find us a running back. Jade not honestly came out as
like one of those. Probably.
Most interested in of these I'm. Telling you bro, the jade, not
the jade, not hive. The closer we get to the draft,
the more and more because you have to the.
Jade not Hive, by the way. It's just you.
And like Fusu Vu. You got it.
Here's here's the deal. It will be all of you soon
because what you have to be doing is you have to win Tors,
right And you have to. Say all of you soon.
Why? Are we?
Why do we care about this guy who did not play his final
season in Oklahoma? The NFL has to be forecasting to
us something. I mean, he's.
Well, what are they? Forecasting, aren't they
forecasting and he'll be a UDFA he's.
Like 296 on the consensus. Board.
What are they forecasting? They're boarding?
What? Put your fingers up.
Feel the wind blow. One second, I'm going to open
this window. OK, OK, I can't hang on.
I feel the wind. Can we get some guesses on what
Jayden Ott's consensus mock draft database Big board ranking
is currently? Like 271.
I'll give you a hint, he's behind Kentrell Bullock.
I didn't even know that was a person I.
Did not know that. Was he's one spot ahead of Byron
Cardwell. This is Pat asking me if these
are real players. Is that is Cardwell Oregon?
Is he Oregon? San Diego State Come on, man,
where's my guy St. He's 331.
When they can send. Oh hey, Cardwell did go to
Oregon, he just had to transfer because he was too shitty.
No one jumped at Elijah Moore tonight on this.
No one jumped for Elijah Moore in last call.
Sad. Oh, what a miss.
What a miss. Oh, man.
Jacob, anything you want to mention?
Yeah, I mean, I I wrote up a big mailbag this last week kind of
as my last pre only talking about prospects thing.
And then so lots of dynasty and basketball stuff in there.
And then I'm I'm in the middle of my running backs article.
So that'll be up by the end of this weekend.
Almost certainly I'll have the whole class up.
It'll probably be one of those things that I intend to write as
one part and then it'll end up being A2 parter, but maybe one
because the running backs are so bad that I might not have a lot
to say. It's actually fun to dig in
mostly on some of the profile like like writing up Jamari
Taylor is like, I think it's like AI don't know.
It's it's like self flagellatory, but it's it's
actually kind of fun. You're like you're like, I'm a
real analyst. No, not A real analyst wouldn't
write up. Well, it's like normally like
last year's class, for instance, it's like I had like really big
blurbs for like the top, I think 10 running backs.
And then I had like like 2 to 3 paragraphs at least for the next
5 or 6. And then like once I got down to
like RB 1819, I started just doing like a couple of
sentences. But it's like this, the couple
of sentences tier this year starts at like RB4.
So it's like I'd now have to write paragraphs about sentence
caliber running backs, which is which is interesting.
Well, just know if you don't write up Jam Miller, then you're
not a real analyst, that's all. I'm I'm writing up Jam Miller
like he's he's in, he's in my database, J not.
In my database. About Jam Miller bro.
I'm not gonna write up Byron Cardwell, I'll tell you that
right now. Yeah, you don't have to write up
Byron Cardwell, you're you're. Would you would?
You talk about. Before Kentrell Bullock not
writing up Tentrell Bull South. Alabama, obviously.
Will you write up jade nott? Will Jade Nott get?
A couple I will. Jade Nott's definitely getting a
sentence. I can't promise you more than a
sentence, but he's definitely getting a sentence.
He's pretty fast. You got to give him credit for
that. He might get like a 10 year
criminal sentence, but like he's getting a sentence.
No, no, Jade Nott, not a criminal you were thinking of.
McGowan I just meant for. I just meant for sucking like, I
didn't mean like. Yeah, he meant.
Anything wrong? He's being cheeky.
I yeah, yeah, Jayden, not I described as this year's Jayden
Blue derogatory. I'm in sayless.
You're in. Davis always hears complimentary
whenever you give a conference derogatory.
It doesn't matter how bad the cop is, Eli always hears
complimentary. That's why we I wrote up Eli
Heidenreich. He's not listed as a wide
receiver on or he's not listed as a running backs.
He's listed as a wide receiver on DraftKings and he's not in
the underdog player pool. So I'm like, maybe if he's a
running back post draft. He he's going to be a running
back in the NFL almost for sure. Right.
I don't know. He might not get drafted, so he
might not. We might not be able to tell
from. The Has there has there ever
been a more obvious patriots UDFA slash seventh round picks
OK, LAN Larrison was the number one.
Name that's. Brutal, by the way.
But he's like a villain in the wrong kind of movie.
I know. Is Eli Heidenreich?
Yeah, that's his name. And I and I.
Looked up how to pronounce it like I was like, you know?
I was like, what is that? Hans Londa's best friend?
Like, what are we doing? There's no way of getting that
name wrong. Don't hang out with Hey Puka.
Puka's pounding the table for Eli Heidenreich, Bearish for
Puka Davis, you on tomorrow? Yes, I will be.
I will be streaming at some point tomorrow probably probably
around 2:00 in the afternoon, streaming some big.
I think I have exactly 50 big board drafts with 29 days left
to go. So.
The race is on. Look for me, and I know Pat, you
will at Bruins, Sabres tomorrow night with my daughter.
Minnesota 3, Tampa Bay 1 midway through the second tonight.
We're not watching that super closely.
Of course, dude. Pat Green, Sabres, man.
Are you going to be going to the playoffs?
If I can. I gave up season tickets this
year after 19. Oh, no.
Are you serious? I'm saving money.
Yeah.
It's fine. Do you think you're the do you
think you're what brought them to finally be good?
Is it like once you gave up on them, that's why they're good
now? Yes.
And I have a press pass, so I should I should be OK.
OK. I I'm rooting for them.
I'm going to take them in my hockey pool.
I'm all in on the Sabres this year.
I'd love to bring me a lot of joy for you guys to be.
I'd love to have you in in my pool. 18 players, no more than
hockey pool. Sorry. 18 players, no more than
six per team. 50 bucks. I I want it.
Oh, I'd love to. I'd love to join your hockey
pool show. OK, Pat.
Pat will be there too. He's always been saying he wants
to join a hockey pool. Yeah, I've been saying it.
Yeah. I just won't shut up about it,
frankly. Ain't it more and more?
All right, guys, I just keep talking about how much I want to
be in a hockey pool. Here's your chance.
Thanks for watching and listening.
I'll see you next week.