1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,480 Good morning from sunny Buffalo. Mike Schaub here. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,560 Pat Kerain, Davis Maddock will join me momentarily. 3 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:09,360 Jacob Sanderson travelling abroad today. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,080 It's April 1, so head on a swivel out there. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:18,680 No retweeting Adam Scherfter. I mean, just just take a quick 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,480 look if you can think of it. We're A-Team here. 7 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:24,320 Risers, fallers, rookies, draft less than a month. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Tight ends some time on that position today I want to talk 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,840 about bring up James Cook to the guys here. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,920 What's going on with that? They've changed the overtime 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,760 rules again and we should get news on the tush push while 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,760 we're talking here, maybe very soon. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,600 So I know you all love that with our heroes. 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,200 Patton Davis. I'm Mike, Thanks for being with 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,000 us. ADP chasing April 1st, 2025. 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,520 In Underdog Best Ball, ADP is set by two separate yet equally 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,320 important groups. Streamers that set the market 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,480 and the slappies that chase it. These are their stories. 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,520 This time I was not ready for that open. 20 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,160 This is week 3 of the new open. I was listening for the other 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,480 one and Oh yeah, right. So no, Jacob today, Davis, you 22 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,920 couldn't get rebar to sit in with us. 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,680 He's on, he's on family vacation, man, he was, he was 24 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,680 just stopping. It was one of those things like 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,720 I, I told Rich I was like, if you didn't reach out to me, no 26 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,640 chance. Just if I know my, I don't leave 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,160 the house, man. So, so getting out, getting out 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,600 to dinner, I mean, that was, I was, I was glad. 29 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,200 I was glad to have done it. But you know, was was not was 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,680 not my idea. I didn't see any golf clubs in 31 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,720 that picture of the two of you, by the way. 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,560 Reebs. Reebs does not golf. 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,120 Yeah, I was telling him. I was telling him like Rotopat 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,240 lives in Saint Louis. Like Rotopat, you know, he's 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,320 probably 20 minutes from me. Rotopat doesn't golf. 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,240 So I'm like. What are we going to do, man? 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,800 You golf. I got we could go and hang out, 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,400 right? But if you don't golf, what are 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,840 you going to do? Go get a bite, you know, And I 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,040 don't drink. I don't drink. 41 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,760 So that's the other thing. That takes a big You don't golf, 42 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:27,880 you golf. Yes. 43 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Yeah, exactly, exactly. But what are you doing when when 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,920 people reach out, I'm I'm more than happy to to meet and and do 45 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:37,440 all that. Stuff, but like when people 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,840 reach out to Davis, he just pulls up in a golf cart. 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,360 What's up? Dude, are you trying to go golf 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,280 even? Well, it's like, you know, all 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,280 my buddies from high school and college and stuff, like I would 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:55,120 say 85% of the time I've spent with my friends since graduating 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,600 college has been on a golf course. 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:58,840 Wow. Probably. 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,960 How many rounds a year is that? Well, I live in Saint Louis, 54 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,200 right? So all my friends from college 55 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,640 and high school live in Kansas City. 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,600 So when we go. What's the difference? 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,720 What are we going to do? Well, it's a 3. 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,600 It's a 3 hour, 3 hour trek. It's like, oh, what are we going 59 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,960 to do? We're we're going to go golf. 60 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,680 OK, but now there's a weather difference. 61 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,360 I thought that's where you were going, but how many? 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,720 No, no weather difference. Really, how many rounds a year 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,000 like do you really play? I'd probably. 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Put about 20 rounds a year. OK, so it's like strictly 65 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,200 social? I mean, I play a lot by myself 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,600 too. I go to the range by myself. 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,040 I go. I go to the. 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,640 I go to the range by myself. Hey, we're just trying to piece 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,200 this together like. How how I I am too. 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,240 Are you a professional golfer? What's, what's 20 rounds a year? 71 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,760 I mean, I, I, I live in Western New York, which is worse weather 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,960 than yours, of course. And I played 90. 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,480 I posted 90 in a year, which we only get to do between like 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,480 April 1st and October because they don't let you play. 75 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,760 The winter months just sort of do not count. 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,800 So it was 90 rounds a year plus Monday scrambles every week 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,840 through my radio station. That was like, you know. 78 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,680 All the time. Let me try and let me try and 79 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,840 highlight this a little bit differently. 80 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,160 When you don't drink, because the normal thing that a group of 81 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,360 guys would go out and do is they'd go to the bar, right? 82 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:19,440 Have some drinks, do whatever. So I don't drink. 83 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,760 It's just not that, like I'll go to the bar, I'll do whatever. 84 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,280 Not that fun for me. So my thing is like we can go 85 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:30,840 golf, we'll be outside, we'll chat, we'll catch up. 86 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,560 But I'm not going to reach out to you and be like, hey man, you 87 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,880 want to go on a two man dinner excursion? 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Like not that I won't do it. Like if Rotopat texted me and 89 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,760 was like, hey man, you want to go get a bite? 90 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,080 I'd be like, sure, but I'm not going to reach out. 91 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,760 Be like, hey man, you want to go to this? 92 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,600 I've been, I heard about this new restaurant. 93 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,360 It's great. They have to go to you. 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,000 They're going to try it out. Yeah, you know, and, and what 95 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,880 you. Know it is it is it is what? 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,840 It is. I'm not even, I'm not even 97 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,400 defending this as like the optimal way of being. 98 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,520 It's just. That's just how. 99 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,960 I am, and you know yourself. Yes, exactly. 100 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:12,160 No, I I totally get it. We have whose fault is it odds 101 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,520 in the in the chat. I did want to make sure we hit 102 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,960 before we get started. Now the chat thinks that I'm the 103 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,840 heavy favorite to have been Whose Fault is it for us being 104 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:24,880 late? Davis at plus 190. 105 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,920 I guess because it's too early to golf. 106 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,360 If this was a afternoon show, Dave Davis could be getting back 107 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,600 from the Lynx. Nighttime forget it. 108 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,880 Nighttime forget. It nighttime. 109 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,680 Forget it. Nighttime. 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,800 By night time I mean 530 by the way, not even night. 111 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,520 Time Davis might be like a heavy favorite because you just went 112 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,800 to bed. There's just no show. 113 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,440 Yeah. It's like, oh, we're we're doing 114 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,080 it. We're doing a show at 8:00 PM. 115 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,600 Yeah, right, dude. Davis isn't. 116 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,720 Davis already has his phone locked up in in his his night 117 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,400 box, you know, so he gets so the blue light isn't getting in his 118 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,160 face, like. Yeah, you know who's 5? 119 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,720 Who's not? 5 minutes late, Not Davis's 120 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,840 fault. Five hours late? 121 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:08,600 That's Davis fault. You know Pete should be listed 122 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,640 here. True. 123 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,360 Well, he's not on the show. He's not on the show, but like 124 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,480 usually there's a nine. 50 yeah, that's kind of my fault that I 125 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,800 would say. Exchange, right? 126 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,520 You know, like what's? Yeah, but that's on me. 127 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,840 Yeah. You can't blame Pete for the 128 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,920 late code when I requested the code, right? 129 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,800 I mean, he's he's very good about giving me the code right 130 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,760 away if he wouldn't, if he. Oh, that's true on that. 131 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,280 That's kind. Of that's true because you ask 132 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:34,280 and then he's right there like less than a minute later. 133 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:35,760 If not, I mean we'd be in big trouble. 134 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:36,440 We can't. We can't. 135 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,320 Yeah, you can't fly without. Them but I what I'm curious 136 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,720 about is why your odds are so high like you're you're you said 137 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,640 before the show that actually you. 138 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,240 This man is a stickler for time. I think that's one thing we know 139 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,880 about show. That's right. 140 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,680 Also, my age gives me a little bit of more credit than I 141 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,200 probably deserve for like sort of being responsible, right? 142 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,880 I mean, if you look around, I'm in a bar. 143 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,560 I got a golden tea machine back here. 144 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,200 I mean, you should see the bat side of the it's a mess. 145 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,200 So probably a little bit more credit than I deserve for that. 146 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,880 I mean, that's definitely you wouldn't I, I think I would bet 147 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,360 me in this because otherwise. Well, I think I'd bet you too. 148 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,440 I mean, that's. 1800s yeah, it's massive, yeah. 149 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,280 That you would lose. It was my fault, but I still 150 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,360 think. But you got you got you got it 151 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,040 in good though. It's like all of our, it's like 152 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,240 all of our main event teams, like we're going to look back 153 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,800 and be like, dude, we were the only team with Derrick Henry and 154 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,760 Justin Jefferson. We got it in good. 155 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,240 We didn't win, but we did. The best batch, the best bets 156 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,560 I've ever made. All lost. 157 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,080 I mean, there's there's no doubt about that. 158 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,360 They were all losers. OK, so we're going to get news 159 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,680 on rule change. It's coming down now like we've 160 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,120 got new overtime rules, which I don't know. 161 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,040 I loved. Speaking of Roto Pat, I loved 162 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,720 him on on. It was the kickoff. 163 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,440 Just like the NFL is in a crisis or what did he say? 164 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,160 I'm, I'm messing it up. Oh yeah, it'd. 165 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,200 Have a nervous breakdown over? The nervous breakdown. 35 yard 166 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,200 line, is that happening 35? I don't know that one yet. 167 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,160 I know he wanted, he really wanted credit for that line. 168 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,640 So I I want to make sure to give him some on this. 169 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,440 But they keep changing the kickoff, they keep changing the 170 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,960 overtime. So now I know this one today and 171 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 we're having this all come down as we're speaking. 172 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Each team will get the ball at least once in regular season 173 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,880 overtime, like the playoffs, but it's still only going to be 10 174 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,760 minutes. To push officially not banned. 175 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,080 I mean, OK, so just like think about it, how do you even 176 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,120 legislate this? Is it just that anytime you push 177 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,720 your teammate it's illegal? Because that that seems very 178 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,840 hard to legislate also. In a game, because what 179 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,600 happened, you have running backs run up the middle, right And 180 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,320 they're kind of they get through the the line, they get through 181 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,960 like most of the linebackers. But then there's kind of a group 182 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,640 of people and then a big lineman comes in and like grabs the 183 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,360 running back and, and moves them forward another three hours. 184 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,560 Is that would that be illegal? Would that be a push? 185 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,280 This particular proposal this year was only for quarterback 186 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,600 sneaks. So I mean, it's still the right 187 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,280 question. Like how do you really look? 188 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,520 Just what we want is more every year, no matter what they do, 189 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,320 they give us more reason for scrutiny. 190 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,720 You know, like we need 18 more cameras. 191 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,360 Was there an actual push here? Was there just? 192 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Yeah, I, I, I, I The other thing about the tush push is that it's 193 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,760 making teams go for it more. You're getting in the Tucker 194 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:41,680 craft push, push, you know, Andrews, Andrews, your teams are 195 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:46,480 thinking about how can we get that 4th and short? 196 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,680 And I love that. That's great. 197 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:51,360 I want teams to be going for it more and converting. 198 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:56,040 That's that's more offense, That's that's less field goals, 199 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,120 that's less punts. Like I think it's great for the 200 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,720 game. I know the Eagles are way better 201 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,520 at it than everybody else. And look, I mean, when they had 202 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,360 the ball against Washington and Washington's jumping off sides 203 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,080 and they knew they were dead, that was kind of awful to watch. 204 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,600 You're like what? What was more fish flop around 205 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,200 or something? The Washington jumping offsides 206 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,600 and then saying we're going to award a score if you do this one 207 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,760 more time or the bills getting about two inches of positive 208 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,000 yardage every time they ran the the toshibush. 209 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,720 My my Galaxy brain was the reason why the Bills were trying 210 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,440 to be one of the teams legislating away is just to take 211 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,800 it away from McDermott and and and DOC, whose name I'm freaking 212 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,040 out Josh. Is a really strong lower body. 213 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,680 Well, it's been an interesting debate here. 214 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:49,000 Like they always go left. It was pointed out on one of 215 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,960 these Romo headed or Chris Jones might have pointed out like they 216 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,680 always go left on that play, which there's so many things. 217 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Why do I need the push part? Why can't I just have 6 foot 5? 218 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,480 Josh Allen 600 LB Leg press Jalen Hurts quarterback Sneak 219 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,960 versus. That's the thing, I think in a 220 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,760 way it would have made the Eagles advantage. 221 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,000 Bigger, bigger, better. Yeah, yeah, because he's. 222 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,520 So good at it. No one can replicate it at all. 223 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,640 Those two teams have run it over a span of years, more than the 224 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,360 rest of the league combined. McDermott. 225 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,640 Now you're just like, it's the same play. 226 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,040 You just don't push him, you know? 227 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,840 Right. Same play the quarterback 228 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,160 sneak's not going away. I have not been able to figure 229 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,960 out exactly what Mcdermott's point is. 230 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,960 Like, he's talked about injuries and there's no proof of that. 231 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,520 There's no proof he's he's he's being a sore loser. 232 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,600 Yeah. I don't know, I mean players. 233 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,640 That's what it is. It's a, oh, it's a terrible 234 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,800 play. People get hurt all the time. 235 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,200 Well, no one's ever been hurt, Sean. 236 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,600 Is that? There there are players who will 237 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:55,120 talk about like how how the bottom of the pile stuff, right, 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,960 like Jason Kelsey talked about injuries and, you know, Deion 239 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,440 Dawkins and Buffaloes like how bad it is on those plays. 240 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,800 But I just like, what's the difference between quantifiably 241 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,880 the the push push sneak versus the non push push sneak Pat. 242 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,400 So have you seen then that it's officially not banned? 243 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,080 I've. Seen I'm just trusting the chat 244 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,680 as 100% accurate. Yeah, and that and that's never 245 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:20,200 gone wrong before. And it's never gone wrong. 246 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,240 Usually if you trust the chat, someone else in the chat will 247 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,200 say that guy's messing with you, It's April Fool's, why are you 248 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,120 just pulling up comments and sending their facts? 249 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,840 But no one's done that yet. So I think, I think he was real. 250 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,440 I don't I don't think it's in yet the overtime rule is they're 251 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,760 expanding replay, which you know, of course, you know, I 252 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,280 hate it, but that's how it always happens more now now 253 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,120 officials. So they're going to be able to 254 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,240 have replay assist. They call it Remember the face 255 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,960 mask in the end zone on darn old at the. 256 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,480 Reds. So they're, they're opening that 257 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:56,560 up. They say, I'll tell you why I 258 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:00,440 don't they, they say that they can't throw a flag from the 259 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,080 booth, which I just refuse to believe. 260 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,680 Of course they can. They're just not going to tell 261 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:06,360 us. There's just no transparency 262 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,520 with it. And that that slope we've been 263 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,880 on for years with replay just, you know, scares me. 264 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,080 I don't know if that's the Buffalo in me like the small 265 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,280 market, we never win stuff, but I just. 266 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,440 Get the call right, You know, like. 267 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,400 What, like Kansas City, is a big media market? 268 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,920 I'm not like. Like Caleb? 269 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,240 You're breaking up. You're breaking up. 270 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,280 I didn't hear it. I didn't. 271 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,600 Famously if. You what happened? 272 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,520 What does Mike? Well, if if you can't, you know, 273 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,680 if you can't win over that Kansas City media market, it's 274 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:38,920 just impossible to really get anywhere in the economy. 275 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,120 Well, I'm, I'm more, I'm older than 5, so it's been more than 276 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Kansas City in our way over the years, but OK, Yeah, sure, 277 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,320 you're right. Jonathan Jones reporting the 278 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,440 original overtime proposal was for 15 minutes, but the league 279 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,040 itself is concerned about the longer overtimes bleeding into 280 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,000 the next window of games. Yeah, so they're keeping it a 281 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,960 10. The broadcast partners. 282 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,520 That's always what that. Yeah. 283 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,480 That's always what the overtime thing is it's about. 284 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,120 It's about we want to get you to the next kickoff, even though 285 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,920 there are going to be 3 games at 4:25 and what two of them are 286 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,400 Arizona and the Raiders. We still have to make sure to 287 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,720 get we still have to get you to that game on time. 288 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,960 Yeah. Well, there really haven't been 289 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,920 more ties. I thought that would happen from 290 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,640 from that originally not hasn't really happened yet. 291 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,160 So. There should just be ties. 292 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,960 We like it. That should be that should be 293 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,000 more active. It should incentivize teams to 294 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:37,080 try and win more in the the game in in regulation. 295 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,280 It should be it should function. It should function the same way 296 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,920 as soccer where if it's tied to someone. 297 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,400 Who does playoff basketball content? 298 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,280 I I don't want ties, man. I don't need to like, figure out 299 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,160 another tiebreaker level of nonsense. 300 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,560 No, but no. Think about it. 301 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,240 Think about it that that would incentivize you to to like in 302 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,480 Week 11, you're drafting the teams that you know are smart. 303 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,800 Like you're like, oh, we want, we're fading the Bengals because 304 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,600 no one's going to play for a tie more than Zach Taylor. 305 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,840 You know we're. We're fading invading the 306 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,400 Broncos because Sean Payton is going to be happy to leave with 307 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,880 1717, you know, but you're like, oh, I don't know, the Seahawks 308 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,840 are are really good. So we're we're going to do that. 309 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,760 The Seahawks, No, I don't know. No, no, no, they they, they just 310 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,960 brought in Sam Darnold and. Who? 311 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,960 Who? Is the get rid of DK Metcalf? 312 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,400 Who actually is the quintessential Gopher 2 Go for 313 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,400 it. The opposite of what you're 314 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,720 saying, Davis, right now as a head coach in the NFL. 315 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,400 Jim, Jim Harbaugh is actually the GOAT. 316 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,720 Really. I mean, he, he, they missed the 317 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,520 playoffs. Was that three years ago? 318 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,280 Because they just kept going for two. 319 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,840 John Harbaugh. I. 320 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,320 Baltimore. Hand to God, I could never tell 321 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,760 you which one is, which is why I always they long time listeners 322 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,080 will know that I refer to both of them just as Harbaugh. 323 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,160 Because I. Never know. 324 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,400 I never know which one. You mean the Ravens? 325 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,000 You mean? The Ravens, Ravens Harbaugh got 326 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,920 a rash of shit. Remember the year Lamar got hurt 327 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:10,080 and they had, you know, Anthony Brown and and the Tyler Hunt? 328 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,720 The quarter packing. They just kept going for two at 329 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,320 the end and it it like didn't I want to say it didn't work twice 330 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,840 or three times that they lost him and Campbell. 331 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,080 Yeah, Dan Campbell's the answer, yeah. 332 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,600 Campbell's the answer. Yeah, that's right. 333 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,040 Campbell's the answer, yeah. Yeah, they had a game. 334 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,960 Sammy Watkins had a late touchdown in Pittsburgh, and 335 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,760 this is really. They went for two, so you really 336 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,560 did. That Dallas. 337 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,240 That's right. Yeah, Campbell. 338 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Try to go from 2 from the seven yard line in a one point game. 339 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,280 You know, kickoffs to Pat, like now, if the touchback is the 35, 340 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,840 I don't know what that means for the playoff weeks, but it's 341 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,120 fewer yards, potentially fewer fantasy points. 342 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,920 Yeah. I mean, I, I think you'd take, 343 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:56,040 if your team, let's say you had the quarterback of the team and 344 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,120 you're like, where do you want them to start on this drive? 345 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,760 I'd be like the 50 like don't don't even mess with their own 346 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,319 field position, get them in other their field position right 347 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:12,400 away and then they'll go for it. Maybe you know that first first 348 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,640 down, if they don't get it, they'll go for it right. 349 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,160 So I don't think the idea that like we're going to lose yards 350 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,680 from this. I I don't really think so 351 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,119 they're trying to get more kickoffs. 352 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,280 So like maybe we would lose possessions because there'd 353 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,240 actually be some kickoff returns for touchdowns. 354 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:33,880 But I think that NFL teams will probably just let the other team 355 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,600 take the ball to 35. I don't think they're going to 356 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:42,080 want to risk a touchdown. The NFL is projecting, according 357 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,640 to Kevin Seifert from ESPN, projecting between a 60 to 70% 358 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:54,280 increase in returns this year. You guys know who the Bills 359 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,160 signed for this role potentially a couple of weeks ago? 360 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,000 Roll the clip. Type roll a clip. 361 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,320 Oh, Leviska Chennault. Yes. 362 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,680 Oh. Yes. 363 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,400 He'll he'll be. I'm into this rule change. 364 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,320 He'll be he'll be this year's he'll be this year's MBS got guy 365 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,560 who's M in the camp the. Whole No, he's he's slowly 366 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,480 becoming Cordero Patterson. You know, it's just it takes a 367 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,560 while to be Cordero Patterson. It took Cordero Patterson a 368 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,480 while. He was busted, you know, 369 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,160 completely out, out of, you know, any kind of meaningful 370 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,040 world for a. While Cordero Patterson should 371 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,760 try his absolute best to stick around for like 2 more years 372 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:39,000 because he will own a completely unbreakable set of records in 373 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,880 terms of kick return, yards, kick return, touchdowns, yards 374 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,240 per kick return. He will be like 8. 375 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,280 Like you know kids will be looking at NFL stats 100 years 376 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,880 ago and assume he had to have been the greatest player of all 377 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,800 time just based on how much better he was to kick returns 378 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:55,400 than everyone. Else. 379 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,600 And what was his problems? That nobody would ever throw the 380 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,120 ball exactly? They're going to be like this 381 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:04,000 guy was a a running back wide receiver who had 1000 yard 382 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,280 season and then teams just stopped giving him the ball. 383 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,160 I wonder what could have happened to have done that. 384 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,640 There was a Patriots Bills Monday night game here. 385 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,560 Derek Anderson started the game for the Bills when Allen was 386 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,480 injured as a rookie and Patterson was like their RB one 387 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,240 they just he was in the, you know, the backfield is handed 388 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,680 the pinned the ball all night. Maybe not that often, but that 389 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,480 was his role in that game. So that's happened. 390 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,000 Other than the Scott Fishbowl, is there any format where we 391 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,200 would actually consider who's returning kickoffs and do we 392 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,480 want to draft them because of it? 393 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,720 I I'm in a dynasty league where we get yards per kick in part 16 394 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:42,960 team dynasty league where you get. 395 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,600 It's always the double dip in DFS. 396 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,280 Yeah. Well, I think what it will be is 397 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,160 it'll be some of these 18th rounder guys or 20th rounder 398 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,520 guys like Cavante Turpin. You, you can add in, you know, I 399 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,960 don't know, two points over the course of the season in terms of 400 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,440 like kick return, touchdown, equity. 401 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,960 Cavante Turpin, is he this year's Rico Dowdle in that Like 402 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,720 a guy who we're just like, yeah, I mean, they'll find someone 403 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,120 else to be the number 2 wide receiver there. 404 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:16,120 I mean, they paid him never do they paid him $18 million right 405 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:22,640 now the Cowboys depth chart these are these are other names 406 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,840 that are listed after CD lamp let. 407 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,480 Me get. A pen, Jonathan Mingo, Ryan 408 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,880 Flournoy, Kelvin Harman, Paris Campbell, Jalen Cropper. 409 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:39,880 So I would I would say Cavante Turpin's floor right now is 35% 410 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,840 of the routes a carry and 1/2 per game ish, plus whatever 411 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,200 points you want to award him for kick returns. 412 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:56,560 Exciting exciting like that let's go save that for last 413 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,600 call. It could be a name that comes up 414 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,320 at the end of the show for our our ADP 200 or over picks. 415 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,880 No Jacob today he mentioned last week that he was going to be 416 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,240 traveling so sorry that we can't bring you him, but we'll give 417 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,360 him a chance to catch up in the game later. 418 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:17,360 We got some slides and we have a new, we have more art, new ADP, 419 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:22,280 chasing art and what is happening here, I'm not even 420 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,320 sure I know. Is this us as like True 421 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,400 Detective? I guess so. 422 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,960 I think, I think, I think Zach's gotten into the AI. 423 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,600 That's that's what I'm not even sure. 424 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:36,520 It's Davis that's missing. Or is Jacob missing? 425 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,360 No, this is Davis. The mustache. 426 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,280 The mustache is always the giveaway. 427 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,880 Are we sure he didn't just combine you 2? 428 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,600 It does seem it it looks this looks more like Jacob through 429 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,800 the through the eyes. That's what I'm seeing. 430 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,880 True face. Structure. 431 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:53,960 But I do see a lot of Davis in there, too. 432 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,480 And I'm Doc Brown as always. Pat's hair is spot on. 433 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,680 He. Actually got he guessed like how 434 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,840 unshaven I would be and guessed exactly correctly. 435 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,440 Feel like that's a Jacob face too. 436 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,200 I'm not criticizing, I'm discerning. 437 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,840 This does look a little bit like me and and Jacob combined as 438 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,040 well. Jacob is a part of all of us 439 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:25,240 here. Next, the Eric All Memorial 440 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,480 Trophy for most disingenuous tout guys. 441 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,640 That is a good question. So I think the move here for me 442 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,080 is that I just have not drafted many of the FFPC best balls so I 443 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,960 can get some ridiculous exposure on someone I'm not that into and 444 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,720 tout that. But I'll have to get back to you 445 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:50,800 on who who that would be. Man, I have AI have a new this. 446 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,040 This doesn't even really fit here, but I'm going to forget 447 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,440 about it if I don't mention it right now. 448 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,440 I have a new guy to add to the Patrick Laird, Dylan Lauby 449 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,360 Memorial White running back who is going to be an undrafted free 450 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,240 agent who I'm trying to get on the podcast. 451 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,680 Have you come across this guy? No, I have reached out. 452 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,560 I have reached out to him. Haven't heard back. 453 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:11,800 LAN. Very bullish. 454 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,200 That is very, very he. Had an open seat today. 455 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,440 LAN Larison, University of California Davis FCS crazy 456 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,520 productive, you know, receiver guy. 457 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,720 I reached out to the University of California Davis athletic 458 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,560 department seeing if I can get anything back about having him 459 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,280 on the show. But I am, that's my, that's my 460 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,640 new guy. Who, who I, who it, it 461 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,280 definitely is not even in the player pool in the big board, 462 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,040 but I, I'm, I'm looking for him to be a seventh round draft pick 463 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,760 this year. Now the race famously like don't 464 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,320 have a running back, but you're that Dylan's not he's out. 465 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,960 You know, I think Dylan is going to have a nice role as a career 466 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,080 core for a special team or I think he's going to be pretty 467 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,440 good. This kickoff role is big for him 468 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,240 then. Yes, on ironically big. 469 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:00,720 Big for him, yeah. LAN Larrison. 470 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,760 He's not. This is not on the Cowboys depth 471 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,560 chart. This is the UC Davis runner. 472 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,320 And I I I recently learned UC Davis FCS school, you know, you, 473 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,480 you would have, you would have assumed UC Davis you I don't 474 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,560 know, I assume the University of California like even push push 475 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,520 vote was tabled for later. Or later in the later this year? 476 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,000 Potentially, yes. OK. 477 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,920 Oh, I see. I see. 478 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,280 It need more time. I don't know who. 479 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,720 Who am I disingenuously touting? Maybe. 480 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,280 Honestly, maybe scataboo, because I've changed my mind so 481 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,800 many times. I was in, then I was out, now 482 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,720 I'm kind. Of I'm very genuinely touting 483 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,840 scataboo now I'm I'm in. Why? 484 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,320 What changed? Scataboo has like a lot of the 485 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,440 hallmarks of a player that we are into in the NFL is not, and 486 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,200 that always worked out when he when he didn't run at the 487 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,560 combine, I was like, kind of like, all right, jig is up. 488 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,800 We we've been exposed. We bet, yes. 489 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,400 Yeah, it's not happening. But in since the combine like it 490 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,000 is not I've not really seen people dropping him in a big 491 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,960 way. He's still, you will find him in 492 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,000 some top 50s, he's in some top 70s, he's in a bunch of top one 493 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,960 hundreds and then he runs A465 Bruegler tweets out. 494 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,800 This is what was expected. I personally, I think he had to 495 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,160 get below 47, but that was sort of the line and he he got below 496 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,520 the line. His jumps were awesome at the 497 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,840 combine. So if you look at something like 498 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,960 Ras, he's in the sevens. He's not because he he's big. 499 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,120 He jumped really well, which is a good sign of of lower body 500 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:48,520 explosiveness, obviously. And then his his forty time was 501 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,840 like below the, you know, drop dead. 502 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,920 You're not an NFL running back kind of cut off. 503 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,440 So now you know I'm still seeing. 40 time is like Zach 504 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,520 Moss, right? Yeah. 505 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,880 David Montgomery kind of I think was in that range, like it's 506 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,680 it's fine. It's not great. 507 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,400 But like that's not his game. And that's the thing about like 508 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,320 the 40 times that stuff is a lot of it. 509 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,840 They're like cross checking with what does this guy do? 510 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,240 Well? Like if you're a speedster, you 511 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,840 should be fast. If you're a short yardage king, 512 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,480 you know, grind out all the tough yards, catch passes, it's 513 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,800 less important. So he's I think going to be 514 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,880 drafted day 2. I feel pretty confident about 515 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,560 that now and he's still alive to be drafted round to. 516 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,800 So I just I'm I don't know, I'm like, man, this guy's like a big 517 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,040 three down back potentially his pass protection is kind of a 518 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,160 joke. That'll obviously be an impact 519 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,920 his role in his rookie season if you can't get that figured out. 520 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,600 But still, I mean, he can cat. He can be out there and catch 521 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,240 passes. I think he's a lot. 522 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,640 There's a lot of upside if he's installed, if he's brought in to 523 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600 be like the 1A, there's a lot of upside. 524 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,560 This is scataboo, how I can't wait the the draft less than a 525 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,920 month. The thing I think I want to see 526 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,680 the most that I'm most excited for is how many running backs go 527 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,720 on day 2 like it. Is that going to be double 528 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,560 digits? Is the thirst for these guys in 529 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,920 this incredible class? Everybody tells you so you know 530 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,880 much that we'll see 10 running backs go rounds 2 and rounds 3, 531 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:29,000 round three. I talked to Ryan Fowler from the 532 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Draft Network on WGR yesterday. He said yes. 533 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,600 He thought maybe between like picks 40 and 70 or maybe he said 534 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,440 somewhere in there that there could be like 10 guys just in 535 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,720 that it starts. It's a run just like in a 536 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,680 fantasy draft. I wonder if we'll see that or 537 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,360 instead the league decides the the class is so deep that it can 538 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:51,000 wait. There is going to be a run and 539 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,080 the question is when will, will the run start? 540 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,400 And I tend to think it probably start like the true run probably 541 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,840 is in the fourth round. I think like the, the early part 542 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,080 of yeah, the early part of the fourth round, we start to see 543 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,240 these running backs fly off. That would be my guess. 544 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,680 But I think it's, it's, it's like a it's floating and sort of 545 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,000 where the tide is. Like, you know, the, the, the 546 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,880 tide is kind of dictating where exactly you're going to find 547 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,880 this, this like cool spot of, of the running back run, if that 548 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,480 makes any sense. I think the, but I don't think 549 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,520 Scataboo's part of that. I think it's obviously Gentsy 550 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,480 and Hampton Henderson and Judkins and then Johnson and 551 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,120 Scataboo are kind of in their own tier. 552 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,880 And then and then I think Dylan Sampson is like a maybe 1/2 tier 553 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,280 up from the rest. Like where he isn't like 0% to 554 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,600 go second round and probably goes third round instead of 4th, 555 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,480 but then after him, that's when you could see a bunch of guys 556 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,680 going off like later in the third or in the 4th. 557 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,480 But my honestly, what I hope is that this consensus that we've 558 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 all reached on the steep running back class is just really off. 559 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,840 And there's a team that loves Devin Neil, there's a team that 560 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120 loves DJ Gibbons. You know, there's a team that 561 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,080 loves RJ Harvey. And one of those guys goes way 562 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,920 earlier than expected. You know, maybe a team doesn't 563 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,240 have a fourth round pick or something and they're, you know, 564 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,360 or a third round pick they grab at the end of the second, 565 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,160 whatever it is. That could kind of shake things 566 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,720 up. But probably most likely 567 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,080 scenario is there's a big running back run in the fourth. 568 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,040 Davis, what do you think? I mean, I've changed my mind so 569 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,840 many times on this, like, it's this great running back class. 570 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,720 NFL teams love running backs. NFL teams are basically toddlers 571 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,480 with three minute attention spans. 572 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,760 And they just saw Derek Henry and sequel Barkley and Josh 573 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,560 Jacobs. All these guys change the league 574 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,200 like, oh, we we can't win if we have an elite running back. 575 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:52,280 And then I go, yeah, well, yeah, but if there's 17 good running 576 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,720 backs in the class, well, why would I take the one? 577 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,120 But teams, it's also like some teams have a good sense of 578 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,920 positional value and some teams don't, you know, it's like some 579 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,520 teams are like, well, we're just not going to take a run. 580 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,960 Like funnily enough, the Cowboys last year, everyone's like, oh, 581 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,400 they desperately need a running back. 582 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,960 Like they they got to do it. And then they don't, you know, 583 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,520 but if if just 15. Games. 584 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,320 If just like if half the they. Probably shouldn't have they 585 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,520 complete it correctly. It's the Lance thing that always 586 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,360 gets mentioned for Dallas, for example. 587 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,360 Because it could have been, it could have been Braylon Allen. 588 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,560 But if just half the teams in the NFL think that way, then, 589 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,920 yeah, some of these guys we think are like, oh, this guy's 590 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,200 going round too. Wouldn't, wouldn't be. 591 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,080 It would not be super surprising to me if the only guys who went 592 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:49,160 day one and day two were the big five guys and then one of 593 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,360 Scataboo, Harvey, you know, whoever. 594 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,920 And then there was a big run in the fourth. 595 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,040 Yeah, I I could definitely see that. 596 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,360 One thing I've been thinking about is that the whole like 597 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,440 running back draft capital argument. 598 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,040 I think it's kind of, it makes sense for it to swing back 599 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,080 towards G miss taking running backs higher than than you 600 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,960 should because the problem isn't that these running backs like 601 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,480 don't hit. I mean some of them are busts 602 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,920 obviously. But it's like the problem is 603 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,280 that when you even when you hit on a Jamere Gibbs, like Jamere 604 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,080 Gibbs is probably going to get a pretty solid extension and be 605 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,000 good through that extension, but he's not going to be great on a 606 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,600 on 1/3 contract, right? And and it's like the type of 607 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,440 player who you can get who can be like a franchise cornerstone 608 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,600 at tackle or, you know, defensive line. 609 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120 You generally have to find the more premium positions in the 610 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,640 draft. Like they don't become available 611 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,480 in free agency. If they do, you have to pay an, 612 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,720 you know, extraordinary amount just to get them in the 613 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,640 building. So it's not about hit rate, it's 614 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,680 about access. Yeah. 615 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,480 It's about access to the premium positions. 616 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,840 And you decided to use one of your tickets to to get access to 617 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,440 a position that you really can't get otherwise on a, on a running 618 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,560 back that you can get access to every other round in the draft 619 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,680 and in free agency. So that's that's why you 620 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,440 shouldn't do it. But when you look back at like, 621 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,160 should I as AGM, be the guy who took Jameer Gibbs? 622 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Actually, that seems pretty fun. Everyone's really excited about 623 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,560 Jameer Gibbs. Jameer Gibbs is awesome. 624 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,840 When you when someone goes back and rates my draft Class 2 years 625 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,280 after I took Jameer Gibbs, three years after I took him, I'm 626 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,560 going to look like a genius. So why? 627 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,240 Why not go ahead and take a guy who's really good at football? 628 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,280 I think isn't it it? Isn't it, though, kind of 629 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,400 amazing that it worked out even to the extent that it has with 630 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Gibbs? I mean, he's been really good, 631 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,600 But with Montgomery, with the 12th overall pick, was it other 632 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,840 needs? I mean, it just seemed like such 633 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,600 a bad bet. And I want to be the GM that 634 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,960 picked Bucky Irving and gave him a chance instead, right? 635 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,640 I want, I want there to be 6 Bucky Irving's in this in this 636 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,520 draft where we we learned that lesson. 637 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,280 Your starter was mid, You're not really invested in him anyway. 638 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320 That's one obstacle this year because so many veterans got 639 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,640 paid and were productive. You have less room, I guess for 640 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,080 a rookie. But the lesson should be, you 641 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480 know, acknowledging Davis's toddler point. 642 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,120 The the lesson should be we can pick a running back on Saturday 643 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,600 and he's fair chance better than anybody else we have. 644 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,280 Yeah. Yeah, I, I just wonder, I wonder 645 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:47,280 if my, and I'm kind of hoping this but that teams will go, 646 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,640 this running back class is really good, but this guy's our 647 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,040 guy. This guy fits our scheme, you 648 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,360 know, and that that leads to because, you know, I don't think 649 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,360 these running backs should be going in the second and third 650 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,200 round, but I would, I still want them to so that we get a 651 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,440 clearer. Picture of how the teams. 652 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,520 Feel. Yeah. 653 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,560 It's like bad process. Thank you. 654 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,679 We think you know. We think, I mean, there have 655 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:14,040 been potholes in that area too. But yeah, well, I can't wait for 656 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,080 it. That's we had the first picture 657 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,239 with us and like, are we amalgams of different faces? 658 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480 Is is there a little bit of Ben Gretch in that Eric Hall 659 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,679 picture, by the way, for anyone else? 660 00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,440 That's just Eric. You're just saying Ben Gretz 661 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480 looks like Eric Hall a little bit maybe. 662 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,199 I see it. I see it. 663 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,080 I'm forcing a little bit because I'm I'm asked to mention that 664 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,040 Ben is going to be on Thursday as a guest. 665 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,679 That's right with the. I'm out. 666 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,239 I'm out on Thursday, Ben. Ben replacing me. 667 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,120 All right. When does Sam jump in my chair 668 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,480 for one of these? I mean, I'm not going to be here 669 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,520 every week. That's got to. 670 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,239 That's got to be. I just, I just messaged him 671 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,320 yesterday and he said not in the foreseeable future. 672 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,480 He's, he's got a big, big project for, you know, the 673 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,080 fucking McKenzie Institute. Or right, right, he's a fucking 674 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,760 he's doing good works. Yeah. 675 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:10,440 All right, sadly sad to hear. Risers Jordan Mason, Stefan 676 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,440 Diggs, Naji Harris Pictured Russell Wilson, Kyle Williams, 677 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,520 receiver Washington State, Devante Adams and Travis Hunter. 678 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:24,520 Good mix of names here. All up 7.3 percent or more in 679 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,320 the last week. Davis, who jumps out for you 680 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,080 first? I mean, the, the surprising one 681 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,640 to me is Kyle Williams because it's basically like 3 dudes who 682 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,320 are are causing this, like Chris Sims and like, I don't know, I 683 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,800 think there I assume there's no, I think it's literally. 684 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,960 Chris Sims, Yeah. Well, it's like there are people 685 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,800 in the football Intelligencio who are agreeing with him. 686 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,880 They're like, oh, yeah, you know, I put on the film and he's 687 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,560 really good. And it's like, oh, man. 688 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,920 Kyle Williams is 21 years old at UNLV and got out produced by 689 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:06,560 Ricky White, who was 19 and is now not viewed as a draftable 690 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,200 prospect. So, like, what's going on here? 691 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,720 But what's Karine? What's the deal? 692 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,960 You you tell me. Is he clickable? 693 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,680 Is he not clickable? What? 694 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160 What do you think? I think he's clickable. 695 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,840 We're looking for guys that are so like the first thing I saw 696 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,520 Sims, so Sims had him for anyone who missed it, had him wide 697 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,680 receiver 232, but he had. Called him, called him a day one 698 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,240 guy. Yeah, he put him with in the 699 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,360 same tier as Ted as the day one guy. 700 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,200 So that was obviously pretty shocking. 701 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,000 I went and I looked guy like mock draft database and he was 702 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,440 at like 120 or something, you know, So I'm kind of like 703 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,000 looking around where other people had him and it was like 704 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,120 he was in the 3-4 borderline. You know, he's right on that 705 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,800 bubble, the day 2 bubble. So it's not like he had a guy 706 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,320 that was generally considered, you know, a UDFA or something. 707 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,040 He had a guy that's like a borderline day two guy. 708 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,840 Now. He said he was around one guy. 709 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,720 Sims does not have any issues. What Sims does is he he like 710 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,520 goes in the lab and. Watches a bunch. 711 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,760 Of tape, he mainlines the film and then he comes out and says 712 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,000 what he thinks, which is kind of great because then we it's not 713 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,280 cut with anything. It's not there's no group thing 714 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,720 to it. It's not cut with anything. 715 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,520 It's going to lead to some divergent opinions, right? 716 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,440 'cause like one reason to get other people's opinions is 717 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,280 they'd be like you need to watch this game, right? 718 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,280 Or whatever or like, did you notice this? 719 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,480 Or you can kind of get pushed back on on track if you know, 720 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,640 you go off the rails, right? But I do think it tells us that 721 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,320 his tapes got to be pretty good in spots. 722 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,200 At least you know, there's some good tape and maybe that tapes 723 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,400 actually good enough to get him going And you know the third 724 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,880 round, right. If he goes in the third round, 725 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,560 we're going to be happy to have him in the 20th round. 726 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,680 If he goes in the fourth round, a good landing spot, we're not 727 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,880 going to be we're not going to be panicked. 728 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,200 And he always was probably going to go in the fourth round. 729 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,160 So to me he he becomes a a clickable guy. 730 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,920 Anybody else on here, Pat, for you? 731 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,000 You want to talk about Russell Wilson? 732 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,640 I guess I'll say like suddenly a, a week went by and I ended up 733 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,480 with six Russell Wilson teams, Enough neighbors, you know, 734 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,480 enough teams where I needed quarterback 3 in the last four 735 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,960 rounds. So I I probably did a little bit 736 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,880 to push that up. I I'm not drafting him. 737 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,120 I I think the odds that Russell Wilson is the Giants starting 738 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,120 quarterback in Week 17 are so low. 739 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,440 Are they OK? I mean, it's it's got to be 740 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,280 Jameis Winston. They got to try that out. 741 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,200 Or are you are you betting that they draft somebody? 742 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,720 I'm betting that if let's let's mean let me put it like this. 743 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,200 If they go into the season with Russell Wilson as the as the 744 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,720 clear answer and like the only other guy, it's like Russell 745 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:04,760 Wilson, Jameis Winston and like Dylan Gabriel, Russell Wilson is 746 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,560 still not going to be the starter at the end of the season 747 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,520 because everyone's getting fired. 748 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,080 Like Russell Wilson cannot captain the Giants the playoffs. 749 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,600 And that's the and if you decide that your season rests on 750 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,880 Russell Wilson, then you have to make, I mean, at least you have 751 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,840 to have a winning record. And he's not going to do that. 752 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,200 I know, you know, he had his run in Pittsburgh, but the wheels 753 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,280 came off for a reason. And this roster is way worse. 754 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,640 OK, so your bet is there's a coaching change mid season maybe 755 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,600 and they just sort of blow it up? 756 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,520 I could easily see that happening, easily see that it's 757 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,120 less likely to happen if let's say they, you know, if they 758 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,320 draft, they're probably at this point their best case scenario 759 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,480 is like trading back in a round one and getting like a Jackson 760 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,600 Dart is a guy they can kind of sell as a developmental guy and 761 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,360 then taking like a Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter at three, 762 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:05,440 whoever's there. But I mean, if Russ, if you if 763 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,400 it's like dude, Russell's not playing well and our only other 764 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,280 quarterback this season is Jameis. 765 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,480 Like it's just like, God, this is just so depressing like this, 766 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,960 let's just blow this up. You know, if you at least have 767 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,040 some hope in a first round quarterback or maybe early 768 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,520 second round quarterback, it's like a little different. 769 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,720 But then that guy's probably playing at the end of the season 770 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,920 instead of Russ. I just don't think I just have a 771 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,840 hard time. How does Russ get to Week 17? 772 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,360 I think James is more likely. How he gets to Week 17? 773 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,200 I mean, why did they sign both? Why did they sign Winston? 774 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,520 How does he get to Week 17? They're 7:00 and 8:00 entering, 775 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,360 you know, week 1617. And that's a game out. 776 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,080 Like, they're not so bad that they're dead and the NFC is weak 777 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,560 and it's their seven playoff teams and like, they're sort of 778 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,680 in it. Wilson never gets hurt. 779 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,480 So they're sort of keeping the whole thing afloat and maybe 780 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,640 trying eventually to pass it off as progress. 781 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,000 And I, I don't think they're, my bet is they're not in the rookie 782 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,680 game, you know, that they're not drafting one of these guys, 783 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,280 especially first two days, maybe somebody on Saturday. 784 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,880 You got to get, you got to get Jameis a mentor, so you got to 785 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:20,520 take Tyler Shock, you know? Honestly, they need to have they 786 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,280 what they needed to do. I'm dead serious. 787 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,800 John Marin needed to come in to Joe Shane's office. 788 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:32,560 He needed to to throw down the the PlayStation and say, all 789 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:38,920 right, Joe, fire up Madden and take me through this offseason. 790 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,360 Show me what you're going to do and how you're going to get this 791 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,000 team in a position that I can I can support you guys running 792 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,720 this this ship for another year. And watch him miss out on 793 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:56,160 Matthew Stafford, get embarrassed by Aaron Rodgers, 794 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,840 eventually settle for Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson 795 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,520 because they can't trade up for the quarterback. 796 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,640 They actually want it one and then just turn off the console 797 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,720 and fire him. Like this is a disaster already. 798 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,520 This is already the worst like that. 799 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,800 You could if you told Giants fans in December, like, hey, 800 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,880 here's how it's going to play out. 801 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,920 It should be like I'm going on a trip. 802 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,120 I'm sailing around the world. I'm not going to watch this 803 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,640 season is I? I don't know I I just have a 804 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,400 hard time seeing how this actually works. 805 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,600 I think Wilson can do what he did for Pittsburgh, which is 806 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,440 sort of keep it on the road. And if it's on the road, then if 807 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,800 you need a third quarterback, who else? 808 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,760 Who else am I supposed to take one of these rookies? 809 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,400 Is it more likely that Chuck is playing those late? 810 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,080 Maybe it is, maybe it. Is it is if if Chuck is Chuck, 811 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,320 it's the Chuck line or the mill row line. 812 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,080 It it's like it does not need to be dart. 813 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,680 It does not need to be Shudor Chuck will be starting at the 814 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,920 end of the year if if he's on this roster or Mill Row will be 815 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,960 starting at the end of the year if he's. 816 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,800 On Quinn or Quinn, yours or take your pick. 817 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,280 You. Yours. 818 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,480 I'm not as confident in him, but I could see it. 819 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,520 We're going to like learn a name. 820 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,320 You know, there's someone in the 2025 quarterback class. 821 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,800 I don't even 2025 NFL dot. Com Dylan Gabriel I actually 822 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,320 kind of like and. I hope, McCord hope. 823 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,840 Does get a shot. Kyle McCord, Great. 824 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,360 Great fit. Great, great fit. 825 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,560 Giants. Great. 826 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,440 Great, perfect Giants. Welcome to the Giants. 827 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,320 Curtis. State good enough for Russell 828 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:26,920 Wolf? I guess not. 829 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,800 Curtis Roar, Max, I get. You know what, Max Brosmer? 830 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,080 I'm I'm calling. That one now. 831 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,160 Max Brosmer. Baby. 832 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,040 Wow, I'm calling. I'm calling that one. 833 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,480 Riley Leonard, welcome to the Giants. 834 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,560 That is his name, right? Notre Dame. 835 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,280 Yeah, that is his name, Yeah. OK, Duke too, I think. 836 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,240 Quick thoughts on Diggs with New England. 837 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,280 I mean, that could be if he's this, is this. 838 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,880 Is Crane's part of the program? If you want digs. 839 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,560 So I, I jumped into drafts after the signing and I was like, I'm 840 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,760 gonna, I'm gonna take some digs. You know, I don't think I've 841 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,920 drafted him once. He goes every time I think about 842 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,160 digs, he goes right before on DraftKings. 843 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,480 He's like, I've seen him in go in like the fifth round. 844 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,880 It's crazy over there. The I think that he's kind of 845 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,240 rising past a point that I'm really comfortable with, reason 846 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,600 being the whole thing is he's going to get all the targets. 847 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,600 You know, he's target hog. So who cares? 848 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,640 He's a 32 year old coming off a torn ACL. 849 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,520 Well, the draft hasn't happened yet, you know, and we could have 850 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,880 like a pretty good wide receiver fall to them in round two. 851 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,280 We could be talking about, you know, them getting a Mechagooka 852 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,480 who could they could get Luther burden. 853 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,960 You know, they even if they get like a Jaden Higgins or 854 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,520 something, that's that hurts. You know, he's 32 years old. 855 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,200 He tore his ACL. I would like to know what I'm 856 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,880 getting into a little bit more now. 857 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,400 I, I suppose this price could rise from here if they don't 858 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,560 draft someone and you're like, oh, I missed out on digs. 859 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,680 But they have to though, they have they, they have to, they 860 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,600 really have to draft the receiver at at some point in the 861 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,240 top three rounds. They one of those guys has to be 862 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:10,560 a receiver. So I mean, Digs is going to be 863 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,160 maybe if he's healthy, he's going to be efficient. 864 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,360 It's going to be short, you know, it's going to be like just 865 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,040 almost like I'll just do your basic old slot receiver kind of 866 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,400 production. I would, I would think. 867 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,680 Is Polk dead already? I think so, yeah. 868 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,040 Oh yeah. Really. 869 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,440 OK. I mean, how do you not do that 870 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,560 Another another run one one year? 871 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,360 JJ Orthego Whiteside, you know, like there's there's these guys 872 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,000 who just Mingo, there's dudes who just like can't play. 873 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:46,800 And Hulk gave all the signs so that he can't play. 874 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:53,000 He checked all the boxes. He did check all the boxes of a 875 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,600 Jalen Regger. Yeah, Jalen Regger would be 876 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,640 another. One I couldn't get on the field 877 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,600 full time was awful when he was on the field. 878 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,040 Outproduced by guys in their 30s. 879 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,960 He's actually worse than Rhaegar. 880 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,120 He Rhaegar got a chance in in year 2. 881 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,560 He's worse than Quentin Johnston, like Quentin Johnson. 882 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,840 They're like, no, this is important that we give this guy 883 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,920 another shot. I think Polk, he's a, he's a 884 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,480 pretty big dog to be like a part of their plans in any way. 885 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,080 By the way, Holland's signing there. 886 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,720 So in Buffalo it was brought up like why didn't Hollands? 887 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:34,480 Why wasn't he re signed? And I think the the take away I 888 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,800 would make is that they wanted him more in a special teams role 889 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,880 because they're looking for special teams specialists, if 890 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,680 you will, with the kickoff stuff and everything. 891 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,640 And that's kind of how he what he's always been. 892 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,080 He ends up leading Buffalo in an MVP quarterback season with five 893 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,760 touchdown catches. But still, like, I think they 894 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,520 wanted him back. I'm guessing all that means New 895 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,080 England is telling him he's going to be on the field as a 896 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,000 receiver. Yeah, I mean he's I think he 897 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,080 holds down the the X spot, right Like that, that at least you. 898 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,280 Just like you do here. Yeah, yeah, blocks. 899 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,200 Blocks like you can trust him. He's not going to be fun and for 900 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,840 fantasy, but he just like helps fill out. 901 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,320 It's almost like, you know, you adding a veteran guard to the 902 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,680 receiver position. You know, it's like you just 903 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,760 just stability, like we'll find other guys to make plays, but 904 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,360 like you do the stuff you be where you're supposed to be 905 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,560 Block, you're supposed to block occasionally catch a touchdown. 906 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,320 But yeah, I mean, they need a, they need an injection of play 907 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,240 making in this receiving corps like. 908 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:43,240 Desperately Hunter by the. Way Hunter's the the dream for 909 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,560 for me. I mean, I, you know, although 910 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,040 the problem with that, they're so bad at tackle, like they're 911 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,240 so bad at tackle that Morgan Moses, who's, you know, the 912 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,120 injury, injury prone is like 34. He's they're like Patriots. 913 00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:01,960 They're no longer concerned about like, well, we got right 914 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,640 tackle figured out. We got Morgan Moses. 915 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,520 That's a lock. So now we just need to find a 916 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,560 left tackle. Like you still desperately need 917 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,920 a right tackle, buddy. So what are you talking about? 918 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:15,160 Like, I don't know. It's it's they they should 919 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:20,920 probably be happy if it goes Ward, Carter, Hunter so that 920 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,160 they can like take the Campbell or Membu. 921 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,600 Yeah, like they organizationally, I mean, you're 922 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,680 probably happy with Hunter, but they're they're probably hoping 923 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,680 in their heart of hearts, like someone just taken before us so 924 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,480 that yeah, we could just take. It's like in a best ball draft 925 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600 where yes, like you have way too much of a guy, but you know 926 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,160 you're not going to be able to not take him and you're actually 927 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,800 hoping you get sniped on on your. 928 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,880 Preferred it's. It is relatable any format just 929 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,400 like. Please do this so I don't have 930 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,560 to choose. Don't make me choose because I'm 931 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,040 going to choose wrong. I don't want to have to make 932 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,480 that decision. It comes down to Sanders, I 933 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,560 guess, you know, in terms of the Browns and the Giants. 934 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,640 And if they both pass on him, then I think the Patriots in 935 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,400 this scenario are are safe. True. 936 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,400 All right. I do think they would take 937 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,280 Hunter though, that there's a Connor saying they're going to 938 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,760 take a tackle. He's got a bias toward the O 939 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,720 line, Hunter, no matter what. I just don't. 940 00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,720 You'd have to have the world's biggest bias, like a Jim 941 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:24,040 Harbaugh times 2 bias toward the O line. 942 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,680 I think to to pass on Travis Hunter. 943 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,240 That. Doesn't make sense. 944 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,160 Seeing the chat a a coach on a podcast that reminds me I had an 945 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,080 idea yesterday. I have this idea every year and 946 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,800 then I forget about it. So this morning the NFC coaches 947 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,080 are talking with the media at the owners meetings and my guy 948 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,200 from WGR, Sal Capaccio, he's down there. 949 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:45,040 He and I were talking yesterday. I'm like, what if day bowl 950 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,960 today, you know, the subject of the draft comes up. 951 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,080 He says if he's there, we're taking hunter at 3:00 and just 952 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,960 like leaves it at that just tells the media that's what 953 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,080 we're going to do. He might mean it, he might not. 954 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,400 It's April Fool's Day. He might mean it, he might not. 955 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,000 But what would I mean? Wouldn't we all just sort of 956 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,400 beast on that Everybody would just have so much fun with Was 957 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,840 he serious? You know, would he? 958 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:10,680 Was that for real? What was it? 959 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,120 And then you know you can get so. 960 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,920 True, we we wouldn't even we wouldn't even take him at his 961 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,680 word. Maybe, maybe not. 962 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,960 We we dig up all the Scott Barrett clips about coach speak 963 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,440 over the years and the index and everything like, well, is this 964 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,000 somebody that would tell you the truth? 965 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,520 It would just be the best if one coach decided, you know, screw 966 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,080 it, I'm just going to tell you meaning it or not meaning it. 967 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,960 This is what we're going to do. You know, any other topics you 968 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,480 guys want to talk about? It would be so great. 969 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,000 I think they want to limit the the fan reaction to them not 970 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,760 having a quarterback after day one to one night and then 971 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,200 hopefully take care of it the next day. 972 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,440 All right, Maybe not even that night. 973 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,280 Maybe not the best team for that example, but you know, still 974 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,440 like just bam, this is what we're doing. 975 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,880 Rabel, coach of the year, Stefanski's won the thing twice. 976 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,040 Come on, have some courage. This is if it comes to this 977 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,280 player, this is what we're doing. 978 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,160 What are we going to do, fire him? 979 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,720 We're taking a fire by Rabel for doing that. 980 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:11,680 They know he runs the show. This is actual click bait. 981 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,600 The people are accusing Sims of click bait. 982 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,960 This is true click bait. I'm going to tell you my draft 983 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,600 plan as long as you'll watch my content. 984 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,760 I'm going to say one thing. This is it. 985 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,120 This is what we're going to do. And then we sit around for a 986 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,440 month debating whether it's for real, it's serious. 987 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,360 Be the best. The the Broncos GM George Patton 988 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,000 at the owners meeting said yesterday. 989 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,920 We're we're taken aback, he said. 990 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,440 He said that which like I mean, obviously if your if your 991 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:42,040 backfield is audric estimate Tyler Beday and Jalil 992 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,720 McLaughlin, you you have no running. 993 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,640 Back, yeah, so. But would they? 994 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,840 I mean, it is nice to hear that. Would they take running back 995 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,160 three with that pick? I don't think they would with 996 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,680 with 20. I don't think they would running 997 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,120 back. What if? 998 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,560 What if Hampton's there? Then, well, they'd be running 999 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,760 back two. I mean, I guess you're Yeah. 1000 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,040 If someone reached for Henderson and they got Hampton, they'd 1001 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,160 take him for sure. But I don't think. 1002 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,720 Who's the most Sean Payton running back in this class? 1003 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:14,840 Probably Henderson. Henderson So it needs to be big 1004 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,640 school, right? Saints Saints used to take guys 1005 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,040 from big schools when Peyton was there needs to be a guy who can 1006 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,600 catch passes. See, I I thought Benny what 1007 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,640 Benny just said. Caleb Johnson feels like a very 1008 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,520 because he he can catch passes. He did. 1009 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,920 I mean, what? He had 39 reception, 29 1010 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,760 receptions. Bad yards per out run, didn't 1011 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,240 run any routes. I think he's kind of. 1012 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,000 Pure the you know what? The you know what Iowa did, 1013 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,520 which is very smart. It's the same thing that 1014 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,080 Wisconsin did with Braylon Allen his final year. 1015 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,320 They were like, oh, there's a chance you get drafted pretty 1016 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,840 high. Let's just throw you the ball 20 1017 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,280 times just to put it on tape. Yeah, I, I think. 1018 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,080 They did for Caleb Johnson. He tends to like, like, he liked 1019 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,080 Mark Ingram, he like, he like Chris Ivory. 1020 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,440 He tends to like the big banger back. 1021 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,440 But he started getting those guys like late. 1022 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,680 So I could see him go on like Henderson, Damien Martinez. 1023 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:15,000 Amy and Martinez. Yeah, You know, I was going 1024 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,880 Damien Martinez. Yeah, both. 1025 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,480 But but Henderson is I think the most Sean Payton early down 1026 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,200 running back because he's he's a little little Camara, a little 1027 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,840 Reggie Bush, you know, the explosive, slightly undersized 1028 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,000 guy. So maybe it varies based. 1029 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,920 On. Maybe it varies based on which 1030 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:37,520 guy, but if Denver picks a running back at 2020, yeah, 1031 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,840 where would you? Where does he rank? 1032 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,440 Well, this is so is I was surprised that Hampton wasn't on 1033 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,400 here because Michael Dugner has an article that's coming out 1034 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:55,400 later this week on the running backs and looking he he's kind 1035 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,800 of attacking it from how much of these rookies likely to rise or 1036 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,520 fall after the draft. And his thesis on Hampton is 1037 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,640 basically we're just anchored to a bad ADP. 1038 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,440 And then he should be like a 2-3 turn pick now because his his 1039 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,320 potential landing spots are just like so tilts to the upside. 1040 00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:18,360 I think if Hampton was on the the Broncos he would be like a 1041 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,800 2-3 turn pick. Ahead of Reese Hall. 1042 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,560 Yeah, he'd go ahead to Breece Hall. 1043 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,880 Yeah. That's another thing, by the 1044 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,280 way, Davis that came out from the meeting is Aaron Glenn 1045 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,120 talking about using all three backs with Jets so. 1046 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,080 Basically, Breece Hall's NFL coaches have never liked him as 1047 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,720 much as we like him. That's right. 1048 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:43,040 That that I don't think is true. I think Salah really liked him, 1049 00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:46,600 but Salah was his. Guy they gave freaking Dalvin 1050 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,000 cook what? 18 Most thought that was 1051 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,440 misunderstood, like he, Sala at the time said. 1052 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,080 We, you know, this dude's coming off an ACL. 1053 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,960 We got a plan for him. This is going to help us execute 1054 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,680 that plan. And then that's exactly how it 1055 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,640 played out. What was the game? 1056 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,880 What was the game in Tennessee like Week 2 where they used 1057 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,520 Braylon Allen for two touchdowns or something in that game? 1058 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,880 Like they never leaned into it maybe. 1059 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,080 Yeah, the. Following year, the following 1060 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,920 year, last year, last year, yeah, they they went away from 1061 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,560 him. Todd Downing was was Breece's 1062 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,840 guy because I mean they, they get rid of Hackett and Todd 1063 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,120 Downing comes in and it's like 90% Breece. 1064 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,440 So there's some, there are clearly some of his coaches that 1065 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,800 didn't that aren't that into him, but. 1066 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,920 And they always were drafting other running backs, too. 1067 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,840 You know, both both years, all right. 1068 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,320 Yeah, although that might have been an Izzy to an extent. 1069 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,760 I mean, they clearly did not like Izzy. 1070 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,400 Hampton right now running back 15. 1071 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,520 And by the way, on this topic, I think we agree, but I'll ask, 1072 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,960 isn't Genti still like amazing value at the 1-2 turn right now? 1073 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,400 I mean, come on, he's going to go somewhere and just he's going 1074 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,280 to it's wheels up so. Yeah, by the way, on briefs and 1075 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,880 maybe he's on the fallers, but I I do think he's a smash at the 1076 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,760 3-4 turn. Yeah, yeah, I agree. 8080P right 1077 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,440 now is 30. Actually, actually I don't agree 1078 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,920 because of the pass catching stuff. 1079 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,320 I think there, I think there's a chance he trends down, like he 1080 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,480 might only have like 42 receptions or something. 1081 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,600 I'm nervous. I think Aaron Glenn, I I believe 1082 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,040 him when he says Isaiah Davis, you know, Alan, he wants to use 1083 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,920 all three and it's running back. I mean, I mean, Hall is probably 1084 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,080 the starter, but I don't love the outlook there for. 1085 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,360 Him Hall is going to. Snaps snaps here. 1086 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,800 Hall's going to absolutely dust Isaiah Davis in any kind of 1087 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:37,800 legitimate competition. Yeah, but I don't know if he's 1088 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,640 going to absolutely dust Braylon Allen in any type of that, then 1089 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,440 that's. The difference because he looks 1090 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,040 really good. Yeah. 1091 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,280 But his like, if you look at any metrics, it's like, this was 1092 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,800 bad. He's the reverse Josh Jacobs. 1093 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,240 Every time I watch Josh Jacobs, I'm like, this guy's stuck in 1094 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:53,800 quicksand. And then like it's like actually 1095 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,360 I was like 8 rush yards ever expected. 1096 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,400 And he's awesome. You're like what? 1097 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,720 Yeah. Allen's the reverse. 1098 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:01,080 I'm like what? A run Like he left 5 yards on 1099 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,480 the table. Davis clarify that what this is 1100 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,600 the difference between you 2. I really, I just, I basically am 1101 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,880 like, I don't care what the numbers say. 1102 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,560 Braylon Allen is really good and, and Crane's like, oh man, 1103 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,880 he's not that good. Yep. 1104 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,080 Crane's and Crane's probably right, but I don't care that as 1105 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,360 that, that sign, that sign doesn't bother me because I 1106 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,720 can't read. It's it's my defense. 1107 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,800 There the difference in philosophy. 1108 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,120 All right, Allen had. Here are the running backs with 1109 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,760 worst yards rush had ever expected last year than Allen. 1110 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,280 Alexander, Madison, Devon A Chan, Javonte Williams, Cream 1111 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,360 Hunt, DeAndre Swift. That's it. 1112 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,760 Don't Matt Charles at Draft Sharks had a good breakdown on 1113 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,600 the on The Jets, I thought yesterday, OK, JK Dobbins leads 1114 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,400 our Fallers list, Jordan Whittington three weeks in a row 1115 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,640 that could be some sort of record 3 weeks in a row on the 1116 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,320 Fallers list without some injury. 1117 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,360 Or is there some news here other than just where he sort of ranks 1118 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,520 in the Rams? Is there? 1119 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,560 Adams, Sorry. A couple things, Adams. 1120 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,600 Replaced by Adams. Yeah, yeah. 1121 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,840 It just keeps, you know, making this list. 1122 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,600 Xavier Restrepo, was he hurt? Jalen McMillan, Dallas Goddard, 1123 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,200 Amari Cooper and Chuba Hubbard still off the that might have 1124 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,240 been on. He might have been on the list 1125 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,760 last week too, after Dowdell in Carolina. 1126 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,440 So Davis, you said last week it's over for Restrepo. 1127 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,800 Is it still over? It might be so back. 1128 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,080 It might be it's so over. It's we're we're so back. 1129 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,760 I mean, it just depends. It depends on what NFL teams 1130 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,120 believe because basically they're just not going to have a 1131 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,120 time for him if you so you just throw throw out the time 1132 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,240 entirely. I don't know. 1133 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,640 I mean I wouldn't if I was an NFLGMI. 1134 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,080 Would certainly not risk my third round pick on a 24 year 1135 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,240 old. Who? 1136 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,520 What were his people doing letting him run if he was really 1137 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,920 hurt? Well, he says like his hamstring 1138 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,960 tightened up that day, right? And he said he just wanted to I. 1139 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,440 Mean, I guess, I guess you got to respect it, but at the same 1140 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,400 hand, maybe you don't have to respect it I. 1141 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,640 Don't think you have to respect it. 1142 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,800 You don't have to respect. It I don't have to respect it, 1143 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,720 but I don't have to care either. Like it's not predictive. 1144 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,760 Well, it is it's predictive in terms of where he's going to be 1145 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,680 drafted. If if this guy's a fifth round 1146 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,880 draft pick, you are not going to want and I liked him as a 1147 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,720 prospect. I was like he's like kind of 1148 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,560 like arbitrage. Ibuka going to come in pro 1149 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,400 ready, going to be a slot. Like whoever wants him, just 1150 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,600 install him. Good to go. 1151 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,240 But, well, if we start thinking about, OK, well, he's a fifth 1152 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,880 round pick to the Chargers. I, I don't know, man, then 1153 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,560 you're starting to be like, can this dude beat out DJ Shark for 1154 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,360 rotational snaps? I I I it. 1155 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,720 It feels feels thin. We're getting to the point where 1156 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,000 he's like blocked by another slot receiver. 1157 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,200 Maybe like, well, lad's going to play in the slot a bunch. 1158 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,960 Like, what's his role Like this seems, you know, you're like 1159 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,640 hoping he can be a Pop Douglas where he's like pretty clearly 1160 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,680 their best receiver. But like, they're like, yeah, 1161 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,560 but he's Pop Douglas, you know? I'll, I'll tell you a fall that 1162 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,560 doesn't make a ton of sense. Dallas Goddard, because either 1163 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,800 he returns to a team where he's got a really good role, or he 1164 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,680 goes to a team that actually uses the forward pass to 1165 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,240 generate yards and points. Yeah, there's been like. 1166 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,000 Drafts where I'm just sitting there, I'm like, I don't need a 1167 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,920 tight end and but I'm just like, but Dallas, Dallas got it's like 1168 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,200 30 picks past ADP. Like I guess I'm just taking 1169 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,280 him. Yeah, I. 1170 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,040 Don't get it? What's most likely He stays. 1171 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,320 Most likely, I think. Yeah, got her. 1172 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,920 Just turned 30. But I don't know. 1173 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,640 I like it too. I mean, I like your point on 1174 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,160 that. Is Dobbins going to get any 1175 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,560 chance with all these rookie running backs we like and he's 1176 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,520 still on the market? Is that going to happen for him 1177 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,720 to a usable extent? I don't think so. 1178 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,560 Yeah, I. Don't know. 1179 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,480 What about Nick Chubb in this way? 1180 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,280 Same. People keep bringing that up and 1181 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:18,480 I'm like OK, we're talking about a dude who wasn't even good last 1182 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,440 year. He had a 2 touchdown game that 1183 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,600 kind of helped his fantasy numbers somewhere in there, but 1184 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,160 he wasn't good. Then he had another season 1185 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,960 ending injury. He's 2928, 29. 1186 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,960 Yeah. And a team that basically is 1187 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,040 begging for goodwill. The fans hate the team. 1188 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,200 Seems like it. Turns 30 in December. 29 is 1189 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,560 right, yeah. The players don't even want to 1190 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,800 be there, right? I mean, you've got miles Garrett 1191 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,680 basically being like, I fucking hate it here. 1192 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,480 I want to leave. You're only good player. 1193 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,520 You have to pay him an absolute. You have to like back up a a 1194 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,280 Brinks truck. It wasn't about the money, 1195 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,320 wasn't about the money. Kenny, Kenny Pickett is like 1196 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:04,040 probably the favorite to start Week 1 for them right now and 1197 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,960 and this team that's crying out for the fans to be energized 1198 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,280 about something won't give him $4 million. 1199 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,280 That that is. That's where we're at. 1200 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,400 Exactly right. The fact that Nick Chubb is not 1201 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,480 on the Browns right now is all you need to know. 1202 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,880 Yeah. Do we know his take on that? 1203 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,280 Otherwise I would agree too. I don't know. 1204 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,400 He doesn't. Have to want to be there. 1205 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,520 I'm sure Chubb just wants to play football like I'm sure his 1206 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,320 own like he's just like, I want to prove like these guys, they 1207 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,040 just want to prove that they that they still got it, you 1208 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,520 know, and I would guess no one is offering him anything. 1209 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,680 I I would guess he literally has offers for the veteran minimum 1210 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,400 from a couple teams and he's like, no, I want to try and get 1211 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,960 a little bit more money. So Dobbins and Chubb could be 1212 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,200 complete zeros as in like not in the league. 1213 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:57,120 Dobbins I actually think will sign with someone, but Chubb, I 1214 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,440 would say is like, I don't know. I I'd probably bet it at like 1215 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:07,160 plus 180 that he doesn't sign by week one, that he's like like a 1216 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,240 a a a Melvin Gordon week 4. Emergency. 1217 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,760 Yeah, like the Adrian Peterson like career, get him, bring him 1218 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,040 on off the street. Although I don't even know if 1219 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,480 he's that because Peterson never like got bad. 1220 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,040 Peterson was. It was just like, well, this 1221 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,000 can't be our plan. He was always good. 1222 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:23,760 Yeah. Yeah. 1223 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,800 So I don't even know. I mean, I would not be surprised 1224 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,760 if he just retires, right? He signs with the Browns on a 1225 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,920 one day deal kind of thing. Like I could see that. 1226 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,600 Yeah Dobbins 30. Yeah, Dobbins over 1000 yards 1227 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,240 from scrimmage. Comeback Player of the year, 1228 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,040 second place. I wonder if he just like goes 1229 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,120 away after that. I mean, it was a little better 1230 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,600 than somebody that would just disappear. 1231 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,920 I think he signed somewhere, but he's going to be kind of like 1232 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,560 what Gus Edwards was last year to him, you know, or he's he's 1233 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:57,520 not starting for anyone and he's probably not even going to be 1234 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,240 like a clear backup. He's probably going to be like, 1235 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,320 it's part of a three man rotation with like a starter and 1236 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,480 a rookie would be the most likely thing. 1237 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:10,120 And then you know, or may may if he's lucky, maybe a team really 1238 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,560 wants a rookie running back, but they're pretty particular about 1239 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,960 which guys they like and they don't get the guy and they bring 1240 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,120 in Dobbins for depth. This is kind of the backup. 1241 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,520 But this ADP has never made any sense. 1242 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,800 Still makes no sense. So Nick Chubb, I guess in terms 1243 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,720 of best ball, was last a guy you would have wanted in 20/22. 1244 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,200 He was pretty good that season. He scores 13 touchdowns. 1245 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,720 He averages 5 yards per carry. He plays two games in 2023. 1246 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:42,640 He plays eight games last year, but he's awful. 3.3 yards per 1247 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:48,520 carry career low success rate. 41% success rate after never 1248 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:53,120 being lower than 50% after being installed as a starter. 1249 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,200 Actually, I guess he was pretty bad in 2019, but the team was 1250 01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:02,040 worse then. Yeah, but like the Brown it's 1251 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,240 it's I agree with what people are saying in the chat like the 1252 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,120 the Browns front office needs a goodwill. 1253 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,480 I mean, he's basically the only likeable Browns player you think 1254 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:11,280 of. My, I guess my. 1255 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,280 Was Garrett. Garrett's Garrett's likeable, 1256 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:18,400 but yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think his his his path 1257 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,520 to relevance for fantasy football is he signs for someone 1258 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,920 in week four. He he pulls the cream hunt. 1259 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,280 He signs for someone in week 4 because they unexpectedly lost 1260 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:32,520 two dudes and he stays healthy. I don't expect him to play well 1261 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,480 though. I I think he'll he'll likely be 1262 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,040 pretty bad. Which? 1263 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,400 This guy's had, I believe five season ending injuries since he 1264 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:46,840 was 19. ADP2O5 so he's eligible for last 1265 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,640 call, but doesn't sound like it's going to be Davis's guy at 1266 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,800 least. Good point on that. 1267 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,440 Like he you'd sign him for the Fields, and the Browns have just 1268 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,800 not yet chosen to do that. I would say go ahead. 1269 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:05,480 Sorry, just on Restrepo before there was AII wanted to mention 1270 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,240 with him. I I don't think we should be 1271 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,640 taking him right now. If you were taking him before. 1272 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,400 If you're it's like if you want to grab Restrepo, you don't have 1273 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,600 any. I think he's fine to like mix in 1274 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,080 is the hope that this forty time thing was just a little fiasco. 1275 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,640 But I'm largely just I want to wait until I see the draft 1276 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,200 capital come through. OK. 1277 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:31,600 Hubbard and Rico Dowdle compared on our next slide, Shuba versus 1278 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:36,280 Rico. I mean, Rico's probably a better 1279 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:37,880 player at this stage in their careers. 1280 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,600 Rico No, I think Shuba's clearly better. 1281 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,520 Oh, I thought he was saying Chubb. 1282 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,360 I thought he was saying, Oh no, yeah, that was, that was my bad. 1283 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,400 Carolina. No tube Tuba's better. 1284 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,080 I just, I don't know, I, I have a brain block on Hubbard because 1285 01:06:55,080 --> 01:07:00,320 I was so wrong on him last year. It's just hard for me to take a 1286 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,120 it's hard for me to take him in the 5th. 1287 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:07,240 Like, I, I like, I like all the rookies better than him, but 1288 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,040 that is just probably my, my brain, you know, OK. 1289 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,880 Let's talk some tight ends. Let's talk some tight ends. 1290 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,400 Well, tuba. Tuba is way too cheap now, 1291 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,960 right? Probably or or Rico's way too 1292 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,480 cheap. Definitely one of the two. 1293 01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:29,000 You tell me. Yeah, I've had a hard time. 1294 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,600 Rico's where now I'm not really drafting him. 1295 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:39,960 He's see on the risers, no? I don't think so. 1296 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,640 There he is running back 45151. Yeah. 1297 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:53,240 And Hubbard is ADP 54 running back 17 ahead of Ken Walker. 1298 01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,720 Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm still into Chuba, but I mean, you 1299 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,680 know, Dowdell, Dowdell was good at times last year, but it 1300 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,640 wasn't like he was awesome. He's just like, fine. 1301 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,920 He's fine. Promulent, right? 1302 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:10,600 Can I? Am I He's? 1303 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,120 This was. A very he's a great use. 1304 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,920 Of the definition, Yeah. Great use of promulent. 1305 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,760 Love it. If if this was post draft I'd be 1306 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,439 pretty into Dowdle. He's like a clear cut backup. 1307 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,640 I think he's pretty talented, decent situation if he gets the 1308 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,080 job he can catch passes a little bit all of that. 1309 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,319 But like pre draft it feels like a little fragile to me. 1310 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,040 Yeah. And they really, I mean, they 1311 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,240 leaned into Hubbard and it went well. 1312 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:45,800 So I think this is like he's be fine as a backup, but probably 1313 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,880 just that. Right. 1314 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,399 Yeah. And Hubbard signed, Hubbard's 1315 01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:56,240 funny because he's signed super cheaply for like 3 more years 1316 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,880 after this. Yeah, like normally when a guy 1317 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,359 signs an extension, as long as Hubbard, it's like it's really 1318 01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:03,279 like a two year deal or whatever. 1319 01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:07,200 But he's he's like legitimately on the Panthers. 1320 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,160 I think through like 2028. It's it's like crazy. 1321 01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:14,640 The deal is crazy long, but they I think we're just like, it's 1322 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,760 not going to cost this much to lock this guy up. 1323 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:22,080 And we like want him to be a part of the team for, for years. 1324 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,120 And even if it means he's like in a rotation with someone else. 1325 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,920 Yeah. So he's literally under contract 1326 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:31,040 in 2028 for $10 million. He's it's 6,000,000 this year, 1327 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,160 6,000,000 next year, 9 million the year after 10 million, it's 1328 01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:37,120 rounding up to 11. But maybe they cut him that 1329 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,960 year. But he's like affordable in 1330 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,200 2027. I think that the take away is if 1331 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:48,000 you remember when they did it, they must love him to do. 1332 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,000 It they must love him. I mean, they even didn't. 1333 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,000 Brooks hadn't been hurt yet the second time either. 1334 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,320 They drafted Brooks, remember him, and they still made that 1335 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,800 deal. So they must. 1336 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,560 They must love him. They must love him. 1337 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,560 And I think, you know, it's a smart, smart deal for them. 1338 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,200 They're like, we don't have a lot of a lot of things going on 1339 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,800 on offense, new regime. Let's make sure this guy's a 1340 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,760 part of what we're doing for the next few years, even if it means 1341 01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,080 we replace them with someone else. 1342 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,320 But I don't think that would be Dowdell. 1343 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:20,080 Dowdell's clearly depth. So tight ends, we were going to 1344 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,440 talk about ownership today and I'm wondering if we will get to 1345 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:25,560 that. Like who who our top guys are. 1346 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,040 So far my top tight end is McBride. 1347 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,160 But when I saw that I was a little bit unsettled just 1348 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,840 because I mean, even though I like him and why wouldn't you? 1349 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,320 But I do also I think I've said it. 1350 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,480 I like the the tight ends down down the line. 1351 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,480 Try to get a couple of those Ferguson Jacob mentioned him 1352 01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:45,240 last week. He's not on this chart craft. 1353 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,960 I like a lot. You know some of these guys seem 1354 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,840 like really, you know good bets. And that made me question 1355 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,440 whether I should have had as much McBride because that's what 1356 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,440 2-3. So I don't know what's what are 1357 01:10:56,440 --> 01:11:00,000 your thoughts like big picture Davis on on this position I. 1358 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,800 Mean, I do really like McBride and Bowers. 1359 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,720 I don't I don't think I'm I don't think I'm breaking any 1360 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,840 news there. It feels to me like the right 1361 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:16,880 answer is going to be the winner of Travis Kelsey, David Ninjoku, 1362 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:23,880 Tyler Warren now huge. Who's going to be the 1363 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,240 quarterback for Njoku, right? If it's Kenny Pickett, you're 1364 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,480 out. If it's Flacco, you're in. 1365 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,120 If it's Chadur, you're probably more in then you would be. 1366 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,480 Actually, you're definitely more in than it would be if it was 1367 01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:37,640 Kenny Pickett. Is it Kirk Cousins? 1368 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,760 Is that still an option? That's on the. 1369 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:44,640 Table you. You, you love it that it's, that 1370 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,080 it's a Joku. I mean, and frankly, no one 1371 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,840 wants to hear it like you are. You're just absolutely in jail 1372 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,600 if you say anything positive about Travis Kelsey right now. 1373 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:58,640 This is a a a very appropriate price for a guy who is coming 1374 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:03,800 off of a 97 reception season at the tight end position. 1375 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:05,720 I don't. I don't think it's appropriate. 1376 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:10,200 I think it's low. Well, I mean, you build in some 1377 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,840 Rashi's healthier. Rashi is healthier than you 1378 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,320 think. Risk age-related, you know, 1379 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,880 total. I mean, I don't know how much 1380 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,920 more age-related decline he has in him, but like, let's say, 1381 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,160 let's say he puts up, he already did it, so he's the slowest. 1382 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:29,400 Man in the league. Antonio Gates final season that 1383 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:34,120 he played all the games, he had 69 receptions, 821 yards and 12 1384 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,440 touchdowns. Then he was basically he's 1385 01:12:36,440 --> 01:12:38,400 basically a bit time player after that. 1386 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:43,560 Now maybe we go into bit time player situation for Kelsey, but 1387 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,960 that was Antonio Gates's age 34 season, which is the season that 1388 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,160 Kelsey. Let me. 1389 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,440 Let me read you Tony Gonzalez's age 37 season. 1390 01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:54,120 Oh, it's, it's not even fair, but yes, please. 1391 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,240 Do it 83 receptions, 859 yards and eight touchdowns. 1392 01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:03,600 That is very, it's like very likely that Kelsey can do that, 1393 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,960 I think. It feels Adam felony to me, and 1394 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,680 I was on the wrong side of the feeling worse. 1395 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,680 But it's like when a guy falls off, but then he's still going 1396 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,280 to have a role and the team's still going to, you know, be 1397 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,000 using him in kind of an outlet way. 1398 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:21,160 And in this case, he actually has tight end eligibility. 1399 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:25,120 Like, I don't know that we need to necessarily project like 1400 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,160 another massive fall off, especially at tight end where 1401 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,960 we've seen like Gronk stopped being Gronk. 1402 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,480 But then he he was like lesser Gronk until like, if he came 1403 01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:39,160 back this year, he'd probably be Lesser Gronk, You know, which by 1404 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,880 the way, is that like all these guys? 1405 01:13:41,480 --> 01:13:43,360 Is is is that still in the window, Gronk? 1406 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,640 Coming back. So I don't think so. 1407 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,320 There's the news that we did. He's draftable, you know, you 1408 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:54,320 don't stop being massive and, and have the mental, you know, 1409 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,800 know how to to get open and, and read defenses and everything and 1410 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,560 be an outlet. So I I don't know, is Kelsey 1411 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:01,960 really going to get like that much slower? 1412 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,440 He's not Kelsey anymore, but. Yeah, like the the floor is 1413 01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:09,080 pretty, you know, good for this price. 1414 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,080 What what's going to happen? It's Kansas City. 1415 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:12,840 It's Travis Kelsey. What is he just going to be on 1416 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,600 the bench? I mean, he's going to be on the 1417 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,760 field, red zone. You only have the three 1418 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,520 touchdowns last year, but you know that's there doesn't have 1419 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,080 to be fast or young for that to be there. 1420 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,960 So I like Andrews more in about the same range. 1421 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,040 I had one draft where I picked them at the 8-9 turn together, 1422 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,560 which just I did for fun. But Andrews is younger and a lot 1423 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,640 of the same boxes get checked here with him. 1424 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,840 I mean, the fact that he fumble and dropped the pass in the 1425 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,720 playoff game, that did happen. But I don't know, I feel like 1426 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,600 Andrews is probably still Andrews. 1427 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,120 I'm a little pretty. Pretty pretty damning. 1428 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,920 Pretty damning quote from the. Costco yesterday. 1429 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,800 No, they like basically like talking about him like he was 1430 01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,720 dead, like, you know, or we're glad to have him back, but we 1431 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,520 wish him well and we hope he's in a good spot. 1432 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,800 It was it was not good. It was. 1433 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,560 Not good that that's also what the GM said. 1434 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,000 You brought it up a few weeks ago where we couldn't think of 1435 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,680 his name at first when he said like, you know, Ring of Honor or 1436 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,920 whatever, Like he's somebody that'll always be important to 1437 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,200 the franchise. He sounded like he was going 1438 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,120 when when he was talking about Andrew. 1439 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,040 So similar. Maybe he is. 1440 01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:23,120 And they you know, they have likely there and then like he 1441 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,640 was not running. You want to talk about like 1442 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,320 things that were really concerning from last year with 1443 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,200 these two guys. I mean, Andrews was the one who 1444 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,920 were like, wow, he's not really. I mean, he's projecting like 1445 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,960 shit for a bunch of these weeks. He's not running a full slate of 1446 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,120 routes. Andrews was the guy that you're 1447 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,160 like struggling to put into your starting lineup, not Kelsey. 1448 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,200 Kelsey was like a locked in tight in one every week. 1449 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:52,240 Now, he didn't perform like Kelsey, but I mean, I, I came 1450 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,680 away from last year being like way more concerned about what 1451 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,400 Andrew's role is going to be if he's back on the Ravens. 1452 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,560 Kelsey's going to be in the Kelsey role. 1453 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,920 You know, it's like, yes, it's not as fun as it used to be. 1454 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,400 He's not a star. But I mean, I took a team 1455 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:13,760 yesterday with Bowers and I took Kelsey as my as my tight end 2. 1456 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:19,160 I didn't have Mahomes, I don't think, but but I got Kelsey like 1457 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,640 pretty good price that and then I'm done at tight end. 1458 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,720 You know, in these pre draft rooms, a lot of my rooms I'm 1459 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,960 like tacking on, you know, late dart throw tight ends and stuff 1460 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,440 and that's fine too. But I was like this actually is 1461 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,640 pretty nice. Like I have this extra roster 1462 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:34,720 spot. I don't have to draft a tight 1463 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:39,120 end 3. Yeah, I mean he's not he's not 1464 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,600 like an absolute smash, but I don't know, it just feels like 1465 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,160 fear, like we're just like we're we're applying fear because 1466 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,800 someone's like what if his body gives out? 1467 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,760 Yeah, OK. But like all of these guys are 1468 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,080 at risk of, of some, you know, catastrophic black marble event. 1469 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,000 Kelsey's slightly more likely than that, I'll give you that. 1470 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,760 But I think, you know, if you just, it's like, man, so this 1471 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,920 guy is projecting way better than the guys going around him 1472 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:09,520 last year when he was dust. When he was dust, he was still a 1473 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,640 better bet than these guys. You said what? 1474 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,760 Davis, Kelsey. Last year, 97 catches. 97 1475 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,480 catches. Andrew's 100 the last two years 1476 01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:23,560 total. Missed some time in there with 1477 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,000 Kelsey. Never misses a game, but 1478 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,960 touchdowns were there. Yeah, one, one thing I do want 1479 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:33,200 to note is that the Noah Gray pickers you, you can look 1480 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,880 elsewhere. The the chance for Noah de Gray 1481 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,640 to have a larger role. Couldn't have imagined a better 1482 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,760 parlay than Rashi Rice's knee detonates. 1483 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:46,040 Travis Kelsey stinks. Xavier Worthy was like actively 1484 01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,120 tanking the team for a month of the season. 1485 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:54,120 And Noah Gray's role did not grow at all. 1486 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,600 He played snaps. He he think of Noah Gray the way 1487 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:04,520 you think of like Luke Ferrell, like Josh Oliver. 1488 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,080 Josh Oliver. Josh Oliver. 1489 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,120 A good a good cop. He he's, he's a good blocker. 1490 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:14,080 He's got soft hands, but they're not the. 1491 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,200 The Kansas City Chiefs offense has not and will not ever 1492 01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:22,040 revolve around getting Noble Gray the ball 4 * a game. 1493 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,480 Just put an asterisk on your Xavier Worthy there and just 1494 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,080 replace it with Patrick Mahomes. You meant to say Mahomes there 1495 01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,840 because Worthy was always open on those plays, but you know 1496 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,600 Mahomes is throwing the ball out of bounds or what? 1497 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,080 Whatever the actively thanking you, just you were close. 1498 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,640 They both, they both did did that to themselves and to. 1499 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,880 Who are Who are your number one owned tight ends so far? 1500 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,240 Let. Me check it's got Bowers has got 1501 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,120 to be. Super boring. 1502 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,320 It's David and Joku Hunter Henry Mason Taylor. 1503 01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:56,600 I mean, it's literally the most boring, probably the most boring 1504 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,200 three guys you could have. That's what we like about it. 1505 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,320 The the easy value. Mason Taylor. 1506 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,080 Ninjoku Hunter, Henry. Mason Taylor. 1507 01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:09,560 Yeah, that that is like you are. I mean, this is a guy who 1508 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,880 invests in bonds. This is you just bought a 1509 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,200 Treasury bond. Yeah, not going to, not going to 1510 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,000 lose anything. Not going to you know your 1511 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,520 that's. That's gold, brother you. 1512 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,560 Know he's got a, he's got a, his share of silver right there in 1513 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,640 that. It's a gold bug, yeah. 1514 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,600 Many, many such, I mean, Mason Taylor, like round 20, he's 1515 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,120 going to be a second or third round pick, you know, gauntlet 1516 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:40,120 drill Hunter Henry 6060 catches, you know, just very much is what 1517 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,840 it is. You know McBride, ADP 27, it's 1518 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,240 been a while since I've picked him, but he still is my number 1519 01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,040 one. It's been a while because New 1520 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:54,280 York shut us down. So because now I'm in the 19th 1521 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,760 round of everything, but it's like up against Garrett Wilson, 1522 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,280 Jacobs. I hate drafting Jacobs. 1523 01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:04,120 Garrett Wilson, Mclaurin, DJ Moore, Boring, Breece Hall, 1524 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,800 Kyron Williams, like McBride, is right in the middle of that 1525 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,320 cluster of picks. And there's just out of all of 1526 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,520 those guys. Yeah, like there's no one else I 1527 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,720 want there. So that's how I ended up with 1528 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,320 McBride on top, just because. I have a lot of teams that are 1529 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:21,320 like Bijan or Gibbs and then a receiver and then McBride. 1530 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,160 That's that's like a pretty common start for me. 1531 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,720 Yeah, 2323 turn so. Yeah. 1532 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:31,880 OK, who's your number one my. Number one is Bowers at 31%, 1533 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,760 because what are we doing? This guy's going to absolutely 1534 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,680 smash this year. Tray McBride at 29%. 1535 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,320 Hunter Henry at 22%, but that's actually a tie with Harold 1536 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:43,720 Fannon. He's at 22%. 1537 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,800 Oh, buddy. I'm choosing to believe. 1538 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:54,320 All right, last call. So names here we could see crop 1539 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:58,960 back up in our little game. So the game is you're picking 1540 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:04,400 somebody who's ADP is 200 or higher and we are playing for 1541 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,160 very specific playoff week production. 1542 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,400 We're looking for guys who are going to matter and score for us 1543 01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:15,120 in the playoff weeks. Last week I picked Diane Brown, 1544 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,280 who signed in Jacksonville. I'm optimistic about that. 1545 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:21,680 Pat went Will Shipley, Davis went Laquint Allen Junior, the 1546 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,840 rookie running back, and Jacob went with Jack Bash, who I 1547 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,360 continue to hear more and more about. 1548 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,120 Who wants to start? Part of the game for me is that 1549 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,720 I'd never pick out my guy ahead of time, so I'll I'll. 1550 01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:38,120 Start I I know. I know who I want, so I took a 1551 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,640 rookie running back. Now I'm going to take a guy 1552 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,680 who's basically a rookie running back in the sense that we've 1553 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,040 never seen him play. I'm going to take Kendra Miller, 1554 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:52,320 which is I think his ADP is 216. It's really just a bet that the 1555 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:57,000 Saints have so many obvious needs they cannot possibly draft 1556 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,120 a running back. Famous last words. 1557 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,240 And that Alvin Kamara doesn't make it through the entirety of 1558 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:07,040 the season. 221 as I look today. Even better. 1559 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:14,120 This is year 3 for him, right? This is year three-year 3. 1560 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,600 New coach, so maybe this coach doesn't hate him like last 1561 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,920 year's guy did. Got to be nice for him if he's 1562 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:22,680 just not hated by his head coach. 1563 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,040 Yeah, I I like it. You know, Dynasty. 1564 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,920 It was dynasty cut down day yesterday, Davis and a couple of 1565 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,120 these teams. Kendra Miller was sort of like 1566 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,400 he was an option, I guess as a cut, but I never wanted to do 1567 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,520 it. And that league you and I are 1568 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,440 in, someone got me really good. They've been sending me Pacheco 1569 01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:42,520 for a third round pick and I kept declining it for like 1570 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:47,200 weeks. Then they very sneakily added in 1571 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,640 me trading them back a seventh round pick. 1572 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,360 And I just read the e-mail too quickly thinking oh, Pacheco for 1573 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,080 a 7th. And I accepted it and I realized 1574 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,840 it was no, I'm giving the three O 2 and then giving them back 1575 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,840 around oh, 7th, which is, which is nothing. 1576 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,560 I mean, that's nothing, but it's just I did trade a rookie third 1577 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:08,400 round pick or Isaiah Pacheco. I wondered about that and we had 1578 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,040 just gotten done talking about him last. 1579 01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:11,200 Week. No, it it was. 1580 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,200 It was a complete complete mistake. 1581 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,480 Complete accident. I mean, my team in that league 1582 01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:18,160 is, I mean, I'm gonna I if I don't win the regulars, if I 1583 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,480 don't win this by by 200 points, something has gone very wrong 1584 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,720 this year. You're that good. 1585 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:35,040 MMM Bijon Bijon genti Bowers likely laporta neighbors were 1586 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,640 the DAC Drake May in a in superflex best ball. 1587 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,800 And the one O 2 and the one O 2 as well as the one as Dante, you 1588 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,480 have the 1st 2 picks. So if I don't win, something has 1589 01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:48,800 gone wrong. You cut Christian Watson, who I 1590 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,320 traded to you a couple years ago. 1591 01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:52,880 Many. Times many such cases. 1592 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,480 Yeah, does. He play at all? 1593 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:55,440 Does he play at all this year? He. 1594 01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,000 Tours ACL on the Week 18. Late. 1595 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,160 Yeah, I don't. Know Wait, so who did you guys 1596 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,000 pick? Kendre Miller. 1597 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,400 Davis went Kendre Miller, you know, you said you weren't 1598 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,080 ready, you were excited to say you weren't ready. 1599 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,120 So I'll, I'll, I'll take Restrepo across that 200 1600 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:19,080 threshold and I'm going to make a, you know, a guess here that 1601 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,040 the league won't freak out about his time. 1602 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,920 Somebody will like him, as Davis laid out earlier, like 1603 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,880 interesting prospect in the 1st place. 1604 01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:31,200 So I'll go with him, Rookie. Let me ask how we're doing this 1605 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,920 game, Are we? Is this like? 1606 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,920 Raw points scored fantasy points well. 1607 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:41,440 So it should be by position like are we, are we doing anything 1608 01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,520 to? Do we have? 1609 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,800 I don't think we have to mess with that. 1610 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,760 You know, you want one of those quarterbacks on the Giants in 1611 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:52,360 the playoff weeks, go for it. It's just, you know, underdog 1612 01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:54,440 scoring, I'm thinking. OK. 1613 01:24:54,440 --> 01:24:56,920 All right. I'm going to take Jackson Dart. 1614 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,000 All right. Yeah, Yeah, I'll give it to. 1615 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,520 Him I'm willing to sure, I'm willing to change the pick if I 1616 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,840 mean or we can change the rules. I just, you know. 1617 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,280 Nope, Nope, no, I mean, look, every year someone always cheats 1618 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,760 a little bit. Trying to win the game bro. 1619 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,440 I mean, we can all pick quarterbacks in future weeks if 1620 01:25:20,440 --> 01:25:24,120 we want also even Jackson Dart or is there going to be a rule 1621 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,840 here once you've claimed and that's it, no one else can pick 1622 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,320 them? No, you, you can, you can, you 1623 01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:30,920 can pick the guy. You can. 1624 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,440 You can grab other guys. I can pick Dart next week, we 1625 01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:36,800 can pick Dart next week if we want. 1626 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:41,000 Yes, we did this, I believe. One well, we we did in the other 1627 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,040 game, but in this game you did in the other game because we 1628 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,160 were counting from the rye. So you were like locking in less 1629 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,960 of a rise or more of a rise. But here I don't know that we 1630 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,800 should. Shouldn't it be a one and done? 1631 01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:54,360 Maybe. I think A1 and done but. 1632 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,000 Maybe it's a sign of a good game when you sort of figure it out 1633 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,160 as you go, right? Just figure out the rules as you 1634 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:02,640 go. Yeah. 1635 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,920 OK. I mentioned that'll be on ship 1636 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,640 chasing on Thursday. You guys hit us with what you've 1637 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:15,320 got this week, Pat. This morning I had my tight end 1638 01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:20,400 article on the rookies out some bullishness for for Harold 1639 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,480 Fannon. Not in the median, you know, not 1640 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:28,120 in the most likely scenarios, not if we're being realistic. 1641 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,800 But if we, if we dare to dream a little bit, Harold Fannon is 1642 01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,560 extremely fun. Also obviously broke down Tyler 1643 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:39,080 Warren Colson, Loveland got an amazing Taylor, Elijah Royo did 1644 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,960 a couple of the deep guys, Rhonda Gadson and Terence 1645 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,760 Ferguson. And then, yeah, we've got an 1646 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,600 article that'll be out later this week from Michael Dubner. 1647 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,520 He had an article on the rookie risers at quarterback last week. 1648 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:54,920 This one will be on the running backs. 1649 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,800 I'll be streaming later this week doing some some drafts with 1650 01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:01,960 the sidekick. Check that out over and on 1651 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,640 YouTube. And pretty quickly after this, 1652 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,920 I'll be on with JJ Zacharisen talking the rookie class for 1653 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,240 dynasty purposes. Good. 1654 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:16,160 There we go, Davis Swill cast 30 minutes. 1655 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,120 See you there. I'm playing craps with rebar. 1656 01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,480 Is that something you would do? By the way, if I ever get to 1657 01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:25,000 Saint Louis, is that get you in a casino or is that out? 1658 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,760 Yeah, I like the I enjoy, I enjoy the casino. 1659 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:33,040 Yeah, you know me though, I'm I'm a real fuddy Duddy. 1660 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,320 I don't, you know, I don't like the minus CV table games. 1661 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,880 I prefer the poker room. You know, that's that's really 1662 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,920 that's really how lame I am. I will do the table games but 1663 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,360 but at the end of the day I really am one of the lamest 1664 01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:49,240 people you've ever met. I mentioned Ben being on ship 1665 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:53,480 chasing here again, that rookie mock draft you guys did with Ray 1666 01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:56,240 GQ and those guys the other night, I loved it. 1667 01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,160 It was so it was so he was great even though he didn't know what 1668 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:00,880 it was. It's. 1669 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,360 Kind of like this game, you know, we got to do it on the. 1670 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,880 Yeah, it just it, it works. It works. 1671 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,640 So I really would recommend that show and anybody who watches or 1672 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:15,000 listens to us get in the Discord so you can chat with us, You 1673 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,000 know, every day I'm in there every day. 1674 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,920 I didn't expect to be I'm I'm I'm discord guy, no. 1675 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:22,960 Discord show they're calling you. 1676 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:25,600 That's they are. All right. 1677 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:29,520 I'll be on as always, Monday through Friday, WGR in Buffalo 1678 01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,640 talking sports. We've got Chris Trapasso every 1679 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,760 Wednesday. Carlin Hartman, who's a high 1680 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,840 school friend of mine is the associate head coach at the 1681 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:41,440 University of Florida, which I is in the final four. 1682 01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,320 So I'll talk to Carlin today about about that. 1683 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,840 You can find us on the Odyssey app, which is free. 1684 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,800 Thanks everybody. Thanks, Pat and Davis and 1685 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,440 hopefully we get Jacob back next week and we will talk to you 1686 01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:53,160 next then.