Tonight on ship chasing we of course will reveal the week for
beds were going to Spotlight. One of our teams that we drafted
here on stream the Buckeye Boomers.
But first, it is time to do what we've all been waiting for.
Touchdown touchdown, touchdown, touchdown touchdown, hasta
Lavista. Hasta Lavista is King all time.
It's so good. I got fucking I, we've waited so
long to update that clip and I knew I was waiting for the
perfect moment. I just did realize that perfect
moment was Lavista tional on the Panthers, with a Spanish radio
broadcast on the play-by-play. Yeah, if you told us Us that
when he was a rookie we might have been like oh this is gonna
go! Well is it?
Holy shit! Holy shit, that we have CMC.
Who looks legitimately questionable for this week.
The team is in disarray. And dare, I say the only bright
spot right now on the entire Panthers roster, Isla Vista
tional. I mean, it's like kind of true
because DJ more has been such an abject disappointment, like it's
been awful, it's been, it's been so bad.
I was like, I was looking at His price tag this week.
I think he's 5,300 on DraftKings, like it.
Do, I just have to devote is he like full Darnell Mooney
territory for you? Or is there a blow-up game
within his range of outcomes? I don't really, I mean I think
he's like you're betting on like 580 and a touchdown.
I think at this point. Yeah it doesn't seem like you're
getting like a true blow up game Baker's just been so bad.
Do you do you think, do you think they should make the
switch to Donald? I mean from a team perspective
no like I think Baker Baker's better than Donald but like From
whose, and I forget it was a grudge or someone is comparing
him to. To like Winston or, you know,
one of these guys are just is able to take chances and I think
it's whatever covered a game for sit on the rudder World pot.
But it's like, you know, like yeah.
He's going to make mistakes and do dumb stuff, but like he
actually was giving his guys a chance a little bit bigger.
Just like sucks, blow the life out of the offense.
It really is unfortunate that Matt Correll is on.
I are like, say if it was, I don't know, a healthy Sam,
Howell that was just lurking on this depth chart.
I mean it would be a A lot easier to get excited about
something the same, how it would be a lot of fun.
Yeah, it it it really is a disappointment and it just seems
I have a hard time, I guess similar to the Broncos.
Right now, I'm having a hard time untangling.
Is it Nathaniel Hackett? Is it Russell Wilson?
Is it, Matt? Rule, is it Baker, Mayfield, I'm
guessing. It's both in both of those
situations, but I don't know where to assign the blame
proportionally. Yeah, I got myself in trouble
last week because I was pointing out some things that the
Panthers were doing pretty well. Like, they're actually actually
have a pretty high situation neutral pass rate.
They're not like going into a complete shell in terms of, you
know, just like, they're not the Bears, right?
They're not just like desperately desperately, trying
to hide Baker and then they, what else are they doing?
Well, I don't know, they did something else that I was like,
you know, this isn't too bad and then they, you know, the the
Arlovski thing where he like calls him out for tipping all
their plays. Because wherever CMC lines up
again, it's an either an RPO or a Or run like based on where he
lines up. Yeah, so I'm like, okay, there's
probably stuff probably additional bad coaching stuff
that I'm not accounted for you in these numbers and then
Rappaport came out with his article that was like the team's
not panicking on Matt rural. They're in.
No hurry to make clearly. I mean if they were panicking
about rule they would have fired him like two years ago.
Who do you think gets I? Am I Wrong?
Do you think the top three most likely to get fired would be
Matt role in the Faneuil Hackett and Kliff Kingsbury?
Is there a fourth in there? Will.
So like is it rule the guy like going away because package good
first year coach, I don't miss Hackett gonna get fired like in
season and his first year that would be able, don't they'll be
little crazy. Don't you think one head will
have to roll? And it's probably not going to
be Russell Wilson's, like, if push comes to shove.
Yeah. But they'll give it like, they
have to be fully eliminated from the playoffs, right?
Like, they're not gonna what? Because it's just gonna be some
dude that hack it brought. Out with him, that's running
things. It's not like there's, you know,
some some like Shadow coach, they can bring in.
I've just laughing because I just saw this pant, I was
Googling that real real quickly and there's this Panthers wire
article. And apparently, he had a quote
today, talking about their matchup with the Cardinals.
And the title is, Matt rule calls, Cardinals quarterback,
Kyler Murray, a rare rare rare layer.
That's the quote of a man who has been watching Baker,
Mayfield, it's damaged Arnold in my practice.
The past four months. Okay, we're Airfield the in
rare. Oh my God.
Yeah. I don't know.
I mean like Salah is probably safe, right?
No one like really? I'm so, yeah, I'm aware that
Kliff Kingsbury. Got got a new contract, but at
some point you got to say to yourself.
It's not working, you know, maybe a sort of a slightly under
the radar. Guy would be Rivera.
Yeah. Right.
If this kind of just goes south, they are one and two.
Yeah, well I'm old enough to remember when Jon Gruden had a
contract that would rival, you know, Scientology level
contracts and he's no longer the coach of the Raiders.
So they you can't get out from underneath these.
If you really don't like the cliff contract.
Yeah. I don't know, man.
I mean I think that affects it a little bit, right?
He's so it does. It makes it a little less likely
but yeah. Yeah, I think I feel like Carson
Wentz is giving Rivera a little bit of a new lease on life
though because we've seen, he's flashed just enough that they
can justify that they got something here and those wide
receivers are going to bail them out to.
He's flash just enough so far but he's there one and two, I
think the wide receivers are pretty overrated.
None of them are doing well, from yards per hour and
perspective, they were all doing well, just based on, like,
overall volume. and I think I do, I think they could they
could be one of those teams where we're like, why do we
think they might be good again? Because they're yeah.
Like one of the worst three teams in the league housekeeping
note been Gretsch has at parent-teacher conferences.
Tonight he's going to try to swing by a little later.
He was giving us a play-by-play doing.
I had such a flashback, I didn't seen he should send us a photo
of one of his cards that had like, you know, you used to see
your parents 10 minutes and your English room, 10 minutes in your
science. I haven't seen one of those in
ages. So been Gretsch doing yoga.
Give me flashbacks as well. Yeah.
I mean my God. Would you like sweating your
parents meeting all of your teachers and all that we don't
talk about pickleball on these Airwaves here.
Have you seen me? I assume Pat.
It's probably every I assume Brooklyn is just overrun with
fucking pick. Yeah, I was a Office Word.
I was going to have to tell you, I'd play Pickleball.
No, we couldn't. We couldn't find a fourth but
Brittany, Brittany. Brittany, what didn't you?
Britt. Then you buy a pickleball set.
Yeah, she brought she has a pickleball.
We're it bought a pickleball set for it.
Bought a pickle Britt, be less of a cliche.
Honestly. Brett how do you even know?
She's just like yeah we're you know, like her work friend, they
were getting together playing but but they wanted to get a
double scheme together, doubles pickleball.
I'm sure that the hottest Doubleday in 2022 is fucking
playing pickleball with each other.
I love all of you guys pretending, like you've loved
pickleball for like your entire life.
I'm not even sure what it is. What what is it?
I know you use a racket and there's a ball.
That's all I know you're asking me.
I've never played in. You're the one that plays
pickleball and you're asking me. I've never play Pickleball.
My girlfriend just bought a pickleball set?
That's all I know. Yeah, I know I was about to play
this weekend and it fell apart. Yeah, I read the the Venn
diagram of people who baked sourdough bread during
quarantine and play Pickleball. Now, Is a fucking flat sir.
We do have some fous, our do start of all, I'm sure, but I
had when I ran out of fucking yeast or whatever you give it,
so it's dead, including yeah, all right.
Yeah, I look forward to whatever flavor of the week, individual
dual-sport. All you hipsters find in about
two months once LeBron James pumps and dumps his pickleball
investment. Um, also this.
Yeah, as Mike, pickleball is elitist, it doesn't seem a
little sit. All Is playing.
Oh it's completely elitist. You guys are artists going to
their park in the in a sunny Saturday afternoon.
Yeah. Because your head is it up?
Have you not read from the New York City mayor's that you guys
are displacing under privileged youth, who just want to play
classic games like Foursquare and basketball?
And you guys are running over there with your new pickleball,
set saying, no, no, get out of the way.
We gotta, ironically play this shitty sport.
That's what's happening. What are you?
And I thought you did it played on like a tennis court or
something you're supposed to, but you guys are so frothy to
play. This shit game that your chicken
kids off the floor. As I've literally never played
it. You are part of it.
There you, you are four feet away from a brand-new pickleball
set process. The tags on it.
That's true. But we gotta get, we gonna get
that pickle ball set out this weekend, get out of here.
All right, she's down for its excited.
Breaks to the right I didn't play racquetball players play a
sport. Unironically.
All right. Nothing ironic about it.
No you are right out of there's no maybe for me but not from
her. Get out of here.
She just genuinely excited about pickleball.
All right, I'm not gonna let this let this show.
Get derailed by big pickleball. That's what they it is.
It is yeah, Fritz boy, asked him, you know, why are you
hating, bro? Like you generally don't have a
very hater Vibe. I feel like you're usually not
just out there score, you know? Spreading some Sprints and
positivity. You're like, one of the few
Twitter accounts that doesn't get all riled up but here You've
Lost Your cool man. Had been, how long have you not
seen my account? My account is basically turned
into an anti pickleball accounts.
What I'm saying? It's it's no pickleball Pete.
All I tweet about is pickleball. These days I'm saying I've lost
your way. You gotta you gotta get back on
the positivity trainman just a bit.
I'm Workshop here. Live and Let Live except
pickleball, idiots, pickleball Bros.
So I would say week 3 on the whole for our portfolio was a
good week. We had lots of teams moved to
two and one which was nice. It's ironic that unfortunately
are two worst teams are Owen three teams.
We only have 20 and three teams and they just happen to be with
our Roto virus friends. So, So I what I mean, is there
correlation there? I mean, maybe this 0r B stuff
doesn't work because we draft was facade.
Blair a John yes we have etn on. Both of those teams that lets
actually. Why exactly But I would say on a
whole, it was a good week for us, and we did have a couple
brutal losses where we didn't have Devon to Smith in the
lineup, which stings because what was our exposure to Devon
to Smith in are pretty high portfolio.
Yeah. Yeah, pretty high because he's
one of those guys that I don't think we loved but was just
mispriced which is kind of where we were.
I think we would like a little higher collectively on Debo last
year but it was a similar thing or mostly just This guy
shouldn't be going here. Like I'm not entirely sure how
it pays off, but like, this is just too good at bat.
I feel like Devonte was somewhat similar.
Yeah. Looks like I just on my account
and this might include a couple of the best ball drafts and not
are actually. Let's see.
Can I know I can I can drill down on this one for our
exposures here, Devante Smith five main events.
So 40 percent almost, which is that's a legit number.
Now, we just got to fucking Art them is I mean is he a guy?
Because we still have Fringe decisions where it's, it's no
knock on Devon to Smith. It's just that we have good wide
receivers where he is like that, French fourth, fifth guy, no,
and it's tough because like the first thing we got was him you
know not having a good game in AJ Brown just absolutely
dominating. And so that's just sort of
sticks in your mind for longer than it should this game could
be really interesting against the Jaguars, like they might
actually be able to push back, you know, like the eagles are
just dominated the Vikings and the Commander's.
The last couple weeks Hertz is still gone off in both games,
but if we got like a legit shootout where the Eagles were
past heavy, Be pretty fun. Well in Chris says, yeah.
And in our our G-Unit League, he says, we're starting him over
djm. That's an easy one, that's an
easy one. There's there's far harder ones
where I think we have some, like, Devon to Smith first Drake
London spots, which you start to get in that thing.
Do you want? And I would say, wouldn't you
say comparable would almost be Gabriel Davis at the stand point
where it's just like you want exposure to the 4550 Point
explosion from the bills are eagles.
And yet a guy like Drake, Ian is just naturally going to have a
higher Target share in probably a higher floor and week to week.
Yeah, I think that's, that's definitely a good comparison.
But man, I mean, so far Smith, Jonah, higher ceiling.
I'm not sure he has a higher ceiling, but like, I didn't
think that he would have the chance to kind of just like,
take over as the number one guy. If you know, there's too much to
defensive attention on Brown, he's surprised me.
He's been really, really good this year.
I think some of your pickleball rackets are laying on your
ethernet cord because your internet looks a little fuzzy
right now. Oh, really it looks good?
Yeah, okay. Um, yeah, so it is a, it's a
good problem to have last week, we had, you know, Draco and Sam
on. We were viewing that team later
tonight, we're gonna have our Buckeye Boomers friends,
essential AKA Evan. And Josh swing on by that teams,
3 and 0. But one of the things You'll see
when we look at this Buckeye, Boomers team is even when you
think you are loaded at wide receiver, you are not as loaded
as at wide receiver like that teams, 3 and 0 and we have to
start DJ more this week and it just goes to show how quickly
how we order these guys and how comfortable we think we are can
get blown to Pieces by bus by injuries.
By buys, you never have enough wide receivers.
You never have enough wide receivers.
Sometimes you think you do is still don't, okay?
And then this isn't directed anyone specifically on any
specific teams, but you never have enough wide receivers.
Do you know what? I'm so confused?
I was doing my sweep through our teams and I could swear, there
were still multiple leagues, where Noah Brown was on the
waiver wire and I was like, I thought we did this.
No a brown thing last week like it did people not pick up no
abroad and every League because they're he's not the kind of guy
that were rushing to pick up the way our teams are.
Instructed and yet I still didn't think he would be
available there. Yeah, it's probably a bad sign
that he is right. Yes, like he's the type of guy
that, you know, normally is getting scooped up for 120 bucks
or whatever. Yeah.
People are building differently this year.
The you know, where are you? What do you have?
Any other kind of macro takes on on how things are shaking out.
Obviously, you know, the 0r B stuff is continuing to get a
little buzz. Everyone's like, oh yeah, maybe
that. That was the the way to go here.
And yet we still haven't even seen any, I guess we've seen the
smashes. We've seen at 0.
RB were drafted in mostly dry like this week.
You had Jamaal Williams drafted in every legal Herbert.
After in every league and then Alexander Madison.
If Dalvin cook happens to miss all of those guys were what 12
through 15 round picks and most Main Event drafts.
Yeah, but I mean they were very much like guys taken as
contingent bets, you know, as you're running back type of
bets. So we have Jamal Williams, I
don't know if we ended up with a ton of Herbert, I feel like we
ended up liking but it's up. So guys graduate we do have a
question here from Dalton. Hey Otis.
He says should I drop Kyle pits? Do you want to take this one?
Yeah. It's been a tough few weeks but
yes. Yes.
You should we gotta move on. Yeah, there's been lots of
conversations about Kyle pits, first, Mark Andrews in our
private chat with Leo D. Is that was a, that was a
decision point. We had during our Ted K,
drafted, I actually went back and looked that up.
It's funny because I mean we were kind of I was definitely
pushing for pits in the third round of that draft, but we were
sort of under the assumption that Andrews wouldn't be there.
Some of the other boards were looking at, neither of them made
it to our pick on the third round and our live conversation
was like I hope I wasn't like push.
In two or four bits, I went back to it.
I was like, it's got to be Pitzer Andrews, right?
And then we run. It was like, let's do pets
grabs. You say it, like he told me to
announce it because he knew that I wanted, piss really bad.
But like, I was like, at least I wasn't like, pounding the table
for pets in the moment. I think we got a saying, I
should have written it down because I was, I was I voted
Andrew you and I Pat voted Andrews.
I was on pits with grach. I think Leone straight-up was on
Andrews and then just he was still up sighs.
You were resigned Tina. Andrews.
Never had the chance, right? He was so result.
He was definitely on Andrews and we did our project, you
definitely was. Yeah, made some.
When are we gonna learn like we, what are we going to?
Learn to just let Leo tea-break. Tiebreakers guys, will keep
recapitulated though. He keeps recapitulated.
He was like, because I was like, I'm on Andrews.
He's like what your own answers? Like, yes, dude, I'm on Andrews
and he was like, I thought you guys wanted piss, that's
adorable. Whatever that is honestly
adorable. Sometimes Murphy is a piece of
shit during the show, but that was it.
Wow, dude. Murphy takes to get off.
No, you know, sometimes he's barking up a storm.
You know, maybe maybe these pickleball rackets are actually
soothing to divert because he seems very little bit about
dying to know what we decided in some of our bids.
But I guess we probably don't want to announce all those.
I want to ask you guys so bad, but we decided mr.
Campos I've been in a curriculum night for my new Middle School.
Newly Middle School first. Don't go daughter.
Yeah, he'll present were you during those those sessions been
dude. It was so brutal.
It was not. I was not present.
They were just teaching us how to use like the online system
and how to look up grades and stuff.
And she's like the model student, she's such a good kid.
I'm very lucky to have her but like anything I need to know.
I can just ask her and she would show me.
And also like we're, they did it as like a mock her day of
school. So like, we went to each class
yet, ten minutes and sat in the class and they gave us a
PowerPoint. And then the bells rang Rang.
And then we move to the next class and like the teachers were
not even present. They're just going through the
motions of. Here's how you use the online
system and stuff. One of them didn't get through
it and she's like if you have any questions just email me.
It's like this is all information.
I could get elsewhere. I don't even tell me one of them
was teaching. The first period.
One was teaching us how to feed our kids while before school and
like, they were making jokes about us being back in middle
school, which is what it felt like.
Yeah, I'm sitting there in Middle School.
Being taught how to be a parent and I'm just like, this is
miserable. I feel like we could use a
back-to-school night on how to submit bids on the NFC website.
I feel like I could go through multiple today.
One. Check that those actually got
put in. I think Leone did Leone send a
screenshot Leone biggest on the straight and narrow.
There you go. But yeah, graduate.
You you many celebrity here around around the school?
No, I don't get anyone. I've had like a couple people in
my life. Recognize me in person.
A guy working at a golf golf course.
Once I love my father-in-law was there and he was really
impressed. He was like wait you're the Big
Crunch from CBS? I was like yeah.
You caught me. There you go.
I was I was so Devastated. It was last Saturday night, our
new neighbors here. Invited us over to have drinks.
They're similar ages us. And this guy's a general
contractor. He's like self-taught super
handy. Just does all this stuff and I
was just like, I really hope he thinks like fantasy and stuff is
cool because when he like asks it and he just like had no
interest whatsoever in fantasy. And then I was like, fuck now, I
really seem like it. It it, you know, where it's like
I've already feel like so emasculated by this guy who
could just like whip, Anything he wants and I was like the lat.
The only thing I could hang my hat on was if he thought
Fantasy. Football was cool and he did not
I was just it from the start wow Henry good Lord the FFC is by
far the easiest site to do. Why are you yelling Henry?
Watchlist batteries, thanks Fix-It a keyboard.
Yeah, it was a tough scene. What would you say you do all
day? That's always, like a really
tough conversation. We were able to relate, because
he was doing some like marketing for his Contracting on like
Instagrams. I was able to talk about like,
fucking social media, algorithms, that was all, that
was all, I could contribute to the, his general contractor
conversation. Um, all right graduate are going
through some of our teams were talking about Devon to Smith
break out. Let's see.
We were we were talking about how I wrote of his teams aren't
doing good. They both have Travis etn on
them. Dude.
Are we going to see an e TM Robinson flipping?
I think we will at some point again we have yet, I thought it
was interesting looking up. It looking to Next Gen stats.
A little bit this week for stealing signals just to kind of
get a feel for some of the three-week you know efficiency
metrics and things like that. I was looking at some of the
running back stuff they have the rushing yards over expected
model that was part of the Big Data bowl a couple years ago,
which is apparently a really good model.
I remember reading about it after the big automobile like
that steadily, they have it on next-gen stats now which is
really cool. One of the ways they look at
that as a percentage of Russia's that went for positive expected
yards, like, Of to what it was blocked in the distance between
the runner and the closest Defender and all of those things
like success rate, basically basically success rate but more
advanced obviously, right? Because it's yeah it's like an
actual model of expected rushing yards based on the blocking and
all that James Robinson pretty low in that.
Yes, long touchdowns over the last couple weeks, obviously,
the one lot this past week incredibly well blocked.
I mean, great story. It's been fantastic to watch
him. He's had a couple long runs.
He's definitely a running back and does what you need out of
him. Him and he's maybe not a guy who
you think of his even explosive play guy.
So he's getting these explosive plays that's great but like He
was, I think it's 25% of his runs.
He's gotten positive yards, over expected, like he's not actually
on a down, two down bases, performing, extremely well.
Pull it up, 26. And the only three running backs
behind them are Clyde Edwards, you layer?
Yeah. Joe mix.
And he's the 25. Nausea Harris.
It doesn't like iced at its current status that, I like
great feel real good. The Russians are expected for
attempt a lot, but maybe I think they added the success rate this
year, didn't they? And that's new.
I don't know. Well, it's always good to check
our biases to because I noticed JJ in his 15 transactions at
James Robinson, as a cell hide Duane and his utilization report
had James Robinson as a sell high.
So I was like, I don't think we're just being okay, no.
A racially biased against James, Robinson's usage, he was wildly
out performing as expected points.
Yeah, I'm in the long. Runs are going to do that, I
guess, I think even beyond that because I think the explosive
plays a lot of times can actually be misleading from a
cell High standpoint because it's like, yeah, he's you know,
outperforming expected points. But a lot of times it can lead
to more opportunity or, you know, a better role or whatever.
In this case I think you know some of the success rate I think
is like when you peel back the covers.
It's not just that he's outperforming it's also that
it's wildly just on those plays. There's not a lot else going on
in the other place I think over the Long Haul he Tian has a
pretty Shot to work his way back in front of Robinson.
In the other thing, wouldn't you say game scripts are breaking
really? Well?
Right now, for James Robinson. I mean, the Jags are look like
one of the best teams in football.
Top 5 in both offensive and defensive dvo, a that's going to
lend itself to more. I think James Brooks Robinson
scripts, which maybe you could spin as hey, they're going to
keep that up, but I guess they haven't found themselves in too
many. Like, we got to, you know check
down to etn from behind scenarios.
They've also played the Commander's the Colts, and then,
you know, this really banged up Chargers team that lost Joey
Bosa during the game. So, I don't know.
I mean, I wonder I think this game will really tell us who the
Jaguars are because their strength is passing game.
But the he goes, I really get past the fence.
So, if Lawrence is good here, then I think they're just gonna
be a good team. Yeah.
Gretch. Are there any other kind of new
trends or things? That surprised you from week 3,
that was maybe different than what?
We saw. The first couple weeks as we
still build up a sample size here.
How much time do you got? I mean this show we can go till
midnight. Yeah like tryna debose, a DOT.
That was a book. That was a signal that I threw
out there. I don't know why he's the first
one that popped into my mind that but his a DOT was too when
they think -.5 and weeks one and two and then it was seven last
week, it's always going to be low because he gets the Targets
near the line of scrimmage, right?
Average depth and Target but he got some areas which we actually
saw at times last year as well. Early in weeks, one and two this
year with Lance under Center, they were kind of just treating
him as a, you know, really close to the line of scrimmage guy and
running their off. I like now the gruffalo's back
it looks like Debo might have the role from last year back
like the full roll the late gyro.
I think he's actually going to kind of explode.
He seems like a pretty good by which is so funny.
I saw a tweet today and it was like no one wants to talk about
how Depot has been awful this year and I was like, wait what?
I was like, did I miss something on that?
Is that Box score watching I've ever, I don't know.
I feel like Depot's got call it. He's been fine mostly, right?
I mean, he hasn't got a lot of years ago.
A lot of receiving, but he's got at least four carries every
game. Just pulled up his box, score is
50. Rushing yards in two of the
three games and then last week, he had five 473 receiving when
he didn't have 50. Rushing at what?
How's he been awful. He said double-digit points
every game. The easily.
I mean, he's basically great. He hasn't been like, you know,
Elite or anything he hasn't done is out of Tyree kill game, but
my point is with the are yards, then it's coming because he also
gets like green zone rushes. You know, he does this really
unique role now. But if he can get some downfield
plays, like he got a times last year, a few explosive plays, you
know, with some area, ards under them.
On top of his Rush, work on top of, you know, more TV Equity
than basically any receiver of the league because he has the
potential to catch the These and run for them are up there.
Maybe not more than any receiver in the league but definitely up
there with a lot of the other receivers.
All right? If you have to be good.
Yeah, I'm not worried about Debo people.
Want Carolina Panthers takes, let's start with this one which
is there's been lots of Rumblings that this new
Christian McCaffrey quad injury is a little more serious than
just the Nicks and dings. He's had previously lots of
Rumblings that he is actually doubtful for this week.
I think he's probably officially questionable right now.
If he were to miss you guys have takes on this shubha Hubbard
first, fiance Foreman split because this was a riddle we
were all trying to crack throughout best ball.
Season two, as far as who is the preferred handcuffed.
I don't know if I have any more clarity on it right now.
Do you guys have any any takes on this?
I think so. Seems right that he flipped him
in snaps last week, but we're talking about super small
samples. So I think we should be careful
with that but you also don't want to just completely ignore
it, you know, like so my expectation is that foreman will
be a lot more popular of the two because I think pretty much
everyone thinks he's better but we don't know.
Informant is also a journeyman who you know, he tours Achilles
ruin his career. Was out of the NFL for a while.
Had a nice little run last year but like I mean on a on the
Panthers he might stink right? Like it's totally possible that
Hubbard plays better than he did last year and is you know, the
guy you actually want. So I think, you know, put in
bids for both and I think what Loeb?
It's fairly similar prices low bids, definitely a little bit,
but I think, yeah, that was that was my big take was, I mean,
they're not even using Christian McCaffrey ways to get him high.
He's a high-value touch God and they're not even getting him
any. So like you're talking, like,
they're running him into the line 25 times a game.
It's is so frustrating that he's banged up now, too, because it
gave him 25 Rush attempts and to receptions last week, they are
not running him on those option routes that they were even last
year, when Joe Brady was a coordinator, what the fuck are
they doing? Like, we already have injury
concerns with this guy, why are they treating him?
Like, Derrick, Henry, whatever. But who are you?
Why the Titans treating Derrick Henry?
Like they're yeah. That's another fair but at least
40 pounds Christian McCaffrey 2005, right?
Like we always talked about that, Pat was there.
But the younger backs here like yeah, but McCaffrey like is one
of the guys, it's been able to handle, you know, being a
smaller back, Aaron Jones but like he's small, he's on the
small side. For a lead back, you treat him
as you know, in Austin Eckler, how they use Eckler.
Mostly in the passing game, get him eight to ten carries or
whatever. That's the way you would use
Christian McCaffrey if you had half a brain and the The
Testament to Christian Catholic, there's no template for doing it
pain. No.
No attempt to follow with Christian McCaffrey, wouldn't
have any idea how to do it? The Testaments McCaffrey is even
with that. He has one crazy efficiently so
far this year. He's been in almost five yards,
a carry, he's run for 100 yards, two games in a row and it's in a
very, you know, boring offense. They're not didn't have any
threat to pass. They don't actually have a
particularly good blocking scheme, but he's just really
good. He also had a long run called
back by penalty last week. I mean, this guy's actually, you
know, just a really good runner even in a bad off.
Offense. But that's another part of the
problem with foreman and Hubbard is even if I think Foreman's the
better Runner, probably a better fit for how bad this offense is
to actually do something if McCaffrey's out.
Yeah. But they're both going to
struggle because they're not Christian McCaffrey, they're
going to be use of optimally in a bad offense, they're going to
split it and they're both, not that good, that's good.
What's what was the little Epiphany I had?
When you guys were talking about that is like normally I think if
you think it's a coin flip you gravitate toward the guy who's
going to catch passes which it seems like based on.
Chuba Hubbard passing him in snaps Juba.
Hovered in the preseason was getting more third downs.
But, like you said this offense, does not fucking care about
high-value touches. They're going to slam a guy down
the middle, which is going to be Deonte Foreman, just like
talking that out. Makes me think that I would
rather have 4 Min the way you're gonna get 15 carries for 50
yards. And you're hoping to get a TV
out of him. And then hovered, you're going
to give you three catches and for carries and like, I think
they're both going to score six or eight points like that's
what's gonna that's right thing at best.
You're Hoping for, you know, from like a Craig Reynolds like
I'm just saying it's tough out there in these running back.
Yeah, it's like yeah, that's usable.
That's it. Is usually.
Yeah, yeah Ryan. Also, Ryan Franklin here makes a
good comment saying that rule will choose wrong.
So, I actually think from that perspective, which appointee
with we should go with Hubbard, we should.
Cause I do think he's less talented but we've already seen
if he's begun. Yeah, I mean what are the odds
that It's be Hubbard 15 carries in the line for this is like
level logic of like yeah, he should use Hubbard in the
passing game, but he wants will use Deonte for the better.
So he will use her God. I actually think I'm sold at its
hub. Is that you fir?
This has legs. What if what if the answer is
actually Lavista? Actually Gretch Gretch.
Miss the visca, we have to show Gretch.
Gretch miss this. Let's play it again.
Graduate. A them, the beautiful thing like
about the first biscuit clip. Is it never dragged like it just
moved along at a good at this? Edit, it.
Shout out to my guys needed for helping with this.
It just the Spanish radio called, I swear to God.
I could listen to two minutes straight of it and not get
bored. It just the pacing is
immaculate. This get running back would be
an awesome answer, my joke. I know one of our chats was
maybe they'll just give to DJ more 25, carries up the middle.
So we Get him some touches. I mean, just figure something
out. Yeah, off that.
Terrible. Relegated answers.
Yeah, shifts girlfriend said what the fuck are you watching?
It's a it's a fair question. Anytime on a Wednesday night at
950 and particularly tonight, Matt Hudson sends, I'm only
listening to Spanish radio from now on.
No, I was saying this I was talking about it on SiriusXM
today to where the energy these guys bring and like the only
what's the closest thing we have to this like Gus Johnson.
Yeah. You know a guy that just use
electric on every call. I mean these guys leave it all
out on the field. These Spaniards think it's
incredible. They act like there's only going
to be one other touchdown from here till the end of time.
And they need to properly celebrate, it lets their level
of enthusiasm. Well it's sort of the bringing
the energy of a soccer goal. Yes, you a touchdown Which
serves many more touchdowns over the course of the giving game.
Right. I guess not that much more but
more but there's more. Yeah people want us to reveal
some kicker bids. I can certainly reveal kicker
bids I'll just say it again man. This was another super gross
week on the waiver wire like no smash is nothing to empty the
clip. Do we have any bids over like
$35? I don't really think we do.
Oh really? Yeah I don't know of any but
what happened to the waiver wire the waivers.
Maybe have to be so fun guys, but it is image to your point
about you know the Zero running back stuff like there hasn't
been a real waiver wire. Smash at running back, right?
Yeah, I'm already forgetting. Someone.
I don't think your has. So, You know, you're kind of
like we're kind of in a sense, playing one-handed here, one
with one hand tied behind her back.
If you were weak at running back going in, you're probably still
weak, it running back like it on some of our stronger teams,
we're still starting like Devin symbols area, Melvin Gordon, and
Richard penny. So I don't know, I think like 0
and B done very well to start the year but it's all just based
on the strong wide receiver Firepower.
Once we actually get some running backs popping up, which
we will ya, I I've seen a couple questions so on some Fringe guys
that shouldn't be available in leagues.
I don't know if you're talking about ffp.
See, what would you bid on George Pickens?
I mean, I'd be in what 25 to 30 percent Fab is that sound right
to you guys? This is what the waiver wire its
guys. Shouldn't probably have been
dropped yet. There's a couple spent.
Think I'd be quite that high. Yeah, I don't know if I'd be
more like, I'd be like between I'd be like between 100 and 200
depending on your teammates. Yeah, I was doing percentages
because I don't know what I was thinking, 20, 20 %.
It really depends on Assuming he's talking about ffp.
See, you were saying percent just because you don't know what
the league is. What, what for yeah, yeah.
If it's a league where there's like the possible ache casual
League where there's a possibility of other rookies
being available and stuff. I mean, I'm not going that crazy
wrap thing, I mean pick is looks good but It's interesting.
I actually got asked about him earlier, and I was saying, if he
had had, he had a seven Target game.
If he'd had a couple seven or eight Target game.
So far this year, would probably be thinking about him a lot more
favorably, but it's a small sample.
But he's had three games, two of them were very low targets.
He's run plenty of routes. He's in a bad passing offense
with a lot of competition. Do you want a job?
Yeah it does those Pickens look good.
I know we have that incredible catch but like from a fantasy
profile perspective does he actually look good because I
think he looks bad. I think it's fancy profile looks
bad. The only other thing I would say
just from like a mattre macro perspective is, we're also
getting incredibly spoiled by these rookie breakouts.
We're getting like five days to a week right now and on a
typical year it more we Mor have guys like Pickens where you can
study tell yourself a story where Pickens is a smash weeks
15 through 17 like I can tell both of you that and neither of
you would think that was a crazy scenario.
No, I think that's the way to play it.
And I also I also think like But you want to, I think if he's out
there, you want to bid on him at a price?
Where, if you need to throw him back later, you can like, yeah,
like something like 150, something like that, I would be
because do you might very well, throw him back like deante
Johnson. Not only, is he still a Target,
dog, is a 30 percent Target for outrun this year, which is
really, really high. He also has an 11 .58.
I feel like he's kind of Smashing The Narrative and then
you were all over this, but it's like, he's not just a shallow
Target on Earth. He's just a Target on her period
and then fire moves. Also looks really good and Chase
claypool's, not awesome, but he's in the mix.
So it's a tough spot for Pickens when I say looks bad again.
I mean from his fantasy profile because it's a mixture of Biscay
wide receiver with legit Target competition.
He's got a 17 point six, eight dot, I don't even know if picket
coming in, will help him there. Like, it's picket going to be
airing it out, downfield a lot. It's just it's just a tough
spot. They had some comments before
last week that need to get the ball down.
Field and it's been a big in the Pittsburgh media and they're
getting asked about it. And Mitch had a comment about
call the concepts that get down there.
The other receivers had comments about it it was kind of kind of
bad and then true Biscay, had a way higher passing a tan and
week 3, they actually did get the ball down field.
It was a windy game though, not the great time to do it, but
that helped Pickens a little. He got to the seven targets, he
ends up making the one-handed catch.
He got a few deep looks but they also went down field to Deonte
couple times. They went down field.
I mean, it's it. Wasn't like it was just gonna,
you know, a George Pickens explosion situation when they
started throwing a bunch. And yeah, I mean they can go
downfield, the Claypool, I don't know if they did a ton on
Thursday last week but definitely, I mean, like you
said Pete did the, the, I think you nailed it, like, we've been
spoiled a little bit with the rookie breakouts.
There's no guarantee that every week.
He's gonna have an austere rookie here, just not how it
works. Yeah, one quick one here, we got
three minutes. I've seen a lot of questions
about Isaiah. Mackenzie, I guess he had gotten
drunk. Often a decent amount of leaks.
How are you guys viewing? A player like him?
Where you kind of know? His upside is probably cap but
he could give you like solid production through the bye
weeks. I view it almost a little
differently. I don't know, a lot of our
teams. We don't really want to be
starting as a Mackenzie right now because he's only running a
little more than half the routes.
Yeah. And it's like when they didn't
have Gabriel Davis, they went to Jay Kumar on the outside where I
thought maybe we might see like MacKenzie and Crowder kind of
split some of that role, just get them both on the field but
two because that isn't available.
I think he's like he needs almost a crowd.
Her injury in order to be someone, you're super
comfortable starting him if he gets that injury actually do
think he has a decent man upside although maybe Shakir would play
a lot and cap them still but but I kind of um It's actually kind
of more of like a long-term upside play.
Really. Yeah I couldn't interest.
Seems like your base for the team's where you are.
Say he went more running back early in your little paper thin,
you have the kid area Stoney's. The Godwin's, like Mike McKenzie
has a wide receiver for in that scenario.
Doesn't sound awful to me because at least you're getting
single game upside even if he doesn't have, like, season-long
like, breakout Target, share potential.
I'm trying to think any other of the big Points on the waiver
wire this week here. This was one from last week to
people. What would you bid on Mitchell
dropped in nfpc line Mitchell because that we had that pop up
a little think we cooled off. I think we came to like around
200 or something. And then, we were outbid in the
one League. We had them on, we had them
available in. Yeah, Shelly out, built out.
It us. Some of these ones are like very
dependent on your team, needs thoughts on run.
Adele's Fab value, it sounds like he's going to play this
week. You know.
A lot of our teams he wouldn't be starting for us.
He feels to me very similar to the McKenzie conversation.
I'm is that under selling him, I think it's under selling a
little bit, just because Dortch is his feasted.
Now, it could create a situation where Rondell just bus because
maybe they stick with Dortch, which is a kind of a rule
situation like what should he do?
He should play Rondell. What will he do?
Is complete George. So I think, but I would, I would
be up over 100 for Rhonda. I would definitely be over 100
for Rondell. Yeah, we'll talk about Dobbs.
I would go big on tops. Did we do a Dobbs?
Oh yeah. You got to go big on dredge look
like, Devon say. Gradually.
I mean, shout out to graduate pounding, the table for knobs.
No. I mean, we obviously would still
rather have do some knocks but wow, it's looking pretty bad.
I'm in Vegas, I realized it was gonna look like made.
Sure we gotta share. What'swhat's so much about the
knocks over is this is on a team where we fucking have Mark
Andrews. It was Tyler higbee.
I mean I mean we smashed Dobbs would look pretty good on this
team. I'll say that right now.
He would look move out but hey, but we got Christian Watson five
rounds later. Hey, good value.
You could be something. Yeah.
yeah, but I mean we joke about this when we argue about this
stuff it's actually better when we go against the thing that
you're arguing for because it's so much better to be in this
position and just be like, see I was yeah, I know equity on but I
told you so the problem with this stuff is like you I just
need like a pause button of like Pat.
Like how confident, how much do you like to us and knocks?
It's like not very much. This isn't like you.
I think you were arguing for Rashad white first because I
think my initial thought after we went up on Knox, when I was
like pretty mad about it during the stream was like, it wasn't
even the first guy Pat wanted. Why did we wind up on his backup
player? We shouldn't have those.
Dude, this steam is hilarious because it has just some fucking
Mega Smashes in jail, it hurts and Mark Andrews.
And then you see Darnell Moody down here, I mean, we need Miss
team. This team is like him.
This is the epitome of a crack rock draft, right here, just
like some real lows in some real highs.
Dalvin cook Deeds, I mean that's who can bet think it smash, it
was if thank you. Yeah, although we need that
shoulder. Not to be a thing.
Yeah. All right, I know our Buckeye
Boomers, you guys feel free to hop on.
Will check out that team in his second other co-managers if you
guys want to start sending some bids across here, the blurry
screen shots. All that, we can see what went
down in this waiver wire run. Let's, let's not talk about
gauge. Am I right now?
It's it's been a tough scene. Some of us have bags that are
heavy underneath our eyes and in our best ball portfolios, please
KJ Please KJ do something. What's up Josh?
What's up at the Josh you got the Evans Silva framing going on
right here you do you have the Pete light?
You've got like a very similar light set of defeat but then the
silver frame, the sit upright, my chair.
Here we go. Is that a ton of I'm going to
the background it is ask the Cool Cats, 29 videos don't live
II actually just checked the the valuation of that.
Cool cat set. After last night's Club, Top
Shot we're not we're not looking too hot josh, we're not.
So this is why you had to sell last August and still get the
videos. Some of us locked up those
moments. Not really understanding what
locking men. So there's that.
Let's talk about our Buckeye Boomers team.
We ran it back with you guys again this year off to a pretty
fast. Start here, three in a row.
Evan, how we feeling about this team?
Oh, I feel fantastic about this team right now.
You have to number one overall. Roaring player and fancy Lamar
Jackson, and then you have the 101 if you reach out to today,
Cooper, cop. And then you got, you know, Joe
never a good cranky Purple hit for us and then some solid 0 or
B players. We can fill in every week.
So I feel pretty good about this team.
You know, DJ more. It's going to eventually be good
and D Higgins. You know, we serve obviously put
them on our bench right now. For him forever.
Yeah, this this team is fun and knowing that we do, hopefully
have got one, I believe, was limited in practice today.
So we're getting pretty close to getting Godwin back.
I think it would be really help you Channel.
It really is a fourth receiver. Well, this is the thing, I mean,
this is, this is a 0r B Team where we punted tight end and we
still feel weak at wide receiver.
Yeah, well you put the draft board, that's really a thing.
Yeah. This was a super efficient
draft, you know, okay, well we got out of this draft and our
recap, we talked about how strongly you felt about rr6
receivers. And here we are with, you know,
Danny crying panicking with DJ's, you know, production so
far. But this was a team where we did
stop at six and we didn't we just took a bunch of tight ends
and running backs late, right? If you scroll down to be taking
out the receiver know, the receiver for the seventh round.
Wow now we just kept crying Purple.
Yeah, in the top tier rookie receivers were wiped out, you
know at 990 to so we kept cranking running backs, that's
maybe the highest I saw Wilson, I mean Wilson, didn't go into
the eighth round, really at all the rookie wide receiver is
went, but we got all those, you know, Singletary, white
Henderson Gordon. Those guys back to back, to
back, to back, right? That we can start filling in.
So, basically, it was a trade-off, rookie wide
receivers, or those Plug and Play Play.
And play 0bk candidates, you know?
But it is Crate. I mean you would ask any other
person. They say you take six wide
receivers through seven rounds. You are loaded, man.
There's no way. You wouldn't be smashing and
it's like, okay, well one guy we knew we'd be coming back from
suspension kid Ares. Coney, we never envisioned would
be a boss. DJ more.
We never envisioned would be a bus and all of a sudden you feel
weak at wide receiver. Is if we are weak, we have we
have you know what? I'm mad about because and I
don't even remember you guys are I remember better than me.
But do we want AJ Brown? Because this was an earlier
draft, that wasn't high for AJ Brown that like, if we wanted
him, right? Yeah.
We only pay it, John, fante and the age a brand.
That's what it was. He was the receiver that way.
It's because Ryan Ryan is Peak Karma and he fucking took AJ
Brown from this. Yeah.
But still, I mean Williams, pits Brown and so, we took Higgins in
the second that hurt. I mean, that, that did not help.
Well, here we go. Fine.
It's more DJ. More like this comment.
We can do this with CD lamb but I be DJ more.
May not be good. Get get out of here, get out of
here. He said 1,000 yards and everyone
your hands in the dirt and go watch them film.
Go watch some film awesome. Go watch some Kyle Allen film.
I'm late career Cam Newton film and then go out some sand Arnold
film. Don't watch this year's team,
which will make you, it's like Clockwork.
Orange, you're going to have to jam your eyelids open, to be
able to watch. Littlefinger's, they're still
the worst freaking on offense. I've ever seen the this one.
This one here from our guy Jake to again, this goes this
comment, I love Jake but this is such a, we'd been so spoiled by
immediate rookie production thing.
Like the No One Drop. Yes.
We wanted a little Standalone value for Rashad, why I thought
it was it a path to it for sure it's sure it's one week one he
did have a little bit. Was it against the the Cowboys
where he was getting used a little bit?
But the Rashad white thing, the thesis was contingent upside,
the high-value touch one button that offense, Tom Brady's off.
I mean And Pat, you're saying he had, he had he maybe had some
steel environment. Are you talking about that?
I guess I never really thought that I was still comfortable at
the plate because the play to me was that like, for net might get
hurt and then he's in this really valuable offense, which I
still think the Tampa Bay offense is going to be when they
get their receivers back like right now, they can't throw so
there. They, they did a little more in
week 3, their Passover expected, finally positive, the first
couple weeks are a runty. I mean, they're giving Leonard
fournette, a bunch of carries, and that's how they're trying to
win, and that's not because they want to be the video.
That's how you score. All points and lose the fakirs.
The yeah. I've been talking about this in
the walkthrough, in regards to Leonard fournette.
It's like, dude, you, you want to Buccaneers to pass the ball
if you have one or for an hour like that's the whole play, the
whole place that he catches a lot of passes.
So yeah, it hasn't been great if you're going to see any.
But but at the same time for that is getting all the work.
So I do think like the Rashad white drafters and I, you know,
I've got a ton you're gonna have to be patient but it's I mean as
far as contingent play goes, he's still easily like a top 3
top for contingent running back right now.
In the, this is actually one. I'm actually a little worried
about, I mean Darrell Henderson split snaps with Cam Akers, cam
Akers had more opportunities. And we for like things aren't
breaking well for Henderson right now.
I will say week 3, so the snap stuff is very accurate but
Henderson ran way more routes and they ran a really low number
of plays and I think they only through like 25 passes.
You'd expect if They had that same role, although everything's
kind of trending toward more Acres, which is not ideal.
But you'd expect, if they had that same role, that Henderson
would actually have more opportunities than he got.
Not necessarily more than Acres, but they only through 25 passes.
He had only the one target no catches, right?
But like most weeks, if he's running 56% of the routes or
whatever he had Acres was at like 15% Acres was there 5050
but Akers was on the Run Place and Henderson was on the past
place in a game where they throw 35. 40 passes, he's going to
catch four or five balls in that role.
If he stays in it, it's been it's shifted every week.
So are we starting D hendo this week?
Maybe, I haven't thought about it at all over to.
I think we're starting meld I would rather start Melvin Gordon
over Henderson kind of my lean right now.
I haven't really looked into it that much, but that's probably I
did. I did take a peek Paulson has
Melvin Gordon significantly higher than him.
Yes. Henderson buried in his in his
ranking. I'm fine with that especially
because we have cup. I don't really see the point of
playing Henderson with Yeah, that's a good point.
So no coin flip this week and no coin flip this week.
Charlie says still stashing. Roads are icy.
Are you new here, buddy? I mean this guy, it's not even
they don't. It says select action, but when
I click try to click it on Ronald Jones, nothing happens.
He's just a fixture on our light up those give it up.
Our comes pre-loaded. The best part about the start is
we've been able to add more role jokes Exactly.
Yeah, they wasted in here, which are two.
I saw, of course, our Godfather Sean seagull hyping up.
Justin Jackson is a super deep sleeper this week tie Chandler
man if we if we get Dalvin cook maybe they forget his harness.
When they had across the pond you just get a little peek at I
Chandler. That could be fun, that could be
fun. Mackenzie 14 189 in our league.
189. Send me a blurry screen shot.
Joshua can get this up but with the new app update, I don't
know. If those three types of people,
you're right. These screenshots you are
selling is rather different. What is going on?
Yeah, you are you guys brought up Mackenzie at about 2 minutes
until lock and I have not gotten a head back on my wayward son,
before I had to go to the curriculum that I was talking
about earlier, I didn't realize he's gonna be doing with my wife
came down with something and I went in through my And did a
quick search found a leggy was available through Min for 103.
So I got them for cheaper than he went in early Gillies.
There you go. Um this is yeah.
So new Fabric Port here. This is from our ship Chase
yacht club. Team, here we did get Justice
Hill, a guy. I thought was a little
undervalued on the waiver wire this week.
We got him for thirty one here. Next bid, 12, I'm trying to see
the other names. KJ Osborne in this league 139.
Matt Collins was available in a ton of leagues, 107.
There you go. For your Deonte Foreman, 63
here, Ebner 37, anything else jumping out to you guys here,
not much. Just that I don't think I'm
gonna 37's interesting. Yeah, I don't realize you would
be on the radar like that. I saw a lot of people answered
him this week but I feel like it's gonna be a lot of Herbert,
right? Herbert.
Look, good, her looks really good.
He looked awesome. Yeah, but I don't think Abner's
going to work in much. I think they're, you know,
everybody's searching for something so well.
I would say Abner is analogous to tie Chandler and Justin
Jackson like the exciting third guy.
Is there a time? Lag Montgomery?
I haven't seen anything on that. Is it day-to-day?
But I don't know. Let me pull up the big group,
you just sent this over for our league here.
Do I have the right one? Yeah, Isaiah Mackenzie 189 in
this league. Craig Reynolds 75.
So seeing a lit little bit of Randomness or not Randomness,
but a nice distribution of Craig Reynolds.
Bids Alec Pierce 38 just as Hill 37 where we the 26 on this one.
We had a high of 26. 26. Yeah.
So just so goes 37 here. 29 chuba 26 to our guy, Pete Carmen
the chat. Schroeder takes Bellinger 423.
See here, go through a few more. We got our slow Bros guys.
Just sent over one here. See this one now.
Will it send me? The real blurry screen shot?
Oh well this is this is Bobby's good work.
Oh yeah I can read. This is the way to this price.
People have been cut in medicine.
Yeah, someone was cutting him in the other one.
We're adding him for 40 here. No other bids.
I actually don't mind the taste them.
He'll bid with Jameis Winston questionable this week just as
Hill went for 35 years. So this was definitely the range
for justice do this. We were a little too light on
justice, so we're not going to get him in a lot of places.
I think we were more like 23:25. Yeah.
Was I was a little high pain on just until I thought he was a
good ad and little wasn't. I think every chat we were in
you were talking about Josh about Justice, you're showing up
to a conversation that we had started to say.
I pounded the table for justice Hill, right now.
It's apparently didn't pound it. Hard enough will you didn't I
saw some bids that you put in where around 20 bucks.
So I just followed suit. I put them in.
See much. Everywhere is the thing is I
use. As a collective, we have a lot
of data points where in like 19 different group chats and if I'm
on an island I have to check my enthusiasm and I told you in our
chat, I was with you. I had just yeah, I said I was
with you two around Josh I was arguing with Josh about Justice
Hill while watching commercial breaks during Survivor.
That's how that's what I was. Really try to go after Mackenzie
and I early because of our receivers.
Yeah. And I was I was something island
with that one. So I was just on the island all
the way around this week, with the flavor text, we're all on
the, we got Sky more in our. If you saw this on statute it
was right that we overpaid but we overpaid by exactly as much.
As same said we were going to, I couldn't be happier.
I couldn't be happier. Think that's have more.
My response is that? Yes, that one went to 300 bucks
on. Him also.
Hey guys got who you were arguing about?
Well would anyone go high on him?
He did go very sweats real high that's never gonna get tired.
I'm just gonna say it $174. I'd fucking the backup QB for
the Dallas Cowboys. What's the conversion on this?
This isn't When it comes to skyborn.
I will I need to get this up, Sam.
Had a very good bet. He did want to show me his
initial screen shot for this, was his death.
So it's just what you can don't. Well, actually me on this bit.
Connor. All right, I don't want to hear
this. See, we didn't fit $129.
We did it on the Conan Euros. That's like $123, 50 bucks, give
or take. Let me do this because I bet
I've been someone needs to talk me off a ledge here because
everyone has the same. Thought, I thought our crew,
here's my thing on on JK Dobbins.
First of all, just winding back the clock.
We got lots of indications from the team that he was having an
awesome training camp. Then we have him come out this
week. Yeah.
Average, 10 yards per carry Canyon Drake's inactive.
Mike Davis, doesn't get any touches.
He's performing well, Jim heart or whatever.
The Harbaugh is comes out after the game sings.
His Praises says that he's running like the Bell cow that
they talked about him and JK era him and Justice.
He'll have been having these little conversations on the side
on top of it. We don't know.
The timeline for Gus Edwards fully coming back.
We also have JK Dobbins popping up on the injury report.
It's a top-five offense. He has both Standalone value
right now, with a small role in contingent value of anything
happens to these guys. To me.
This is like the quintessential Zero running back stash on teams
and and no one known as with me on this.
We're with the dude. I went around to always
listening. I'm running right behind you.
Like yeah, I agree. On the waiver wire is like total
zeros anyway, so like you might as well make a good bet like
this. It's not a great bad but like
it's better than like some of these other platforms and I
think I'm best point you make is that he's gonna have Standalone
value, but I don't think people realize you just want to get him
a job. Can you to get to gain a little
bit more work but he's probably no time soon going to be in like
an 80% snap, share role. I think I do think that's
possible at some point at which one of the things you said Pete
was that in one of our chats today was that that probably
wasn't going to happen at all. I think it's possible.
Dobbins is like the guy if he's just like continues to look good
and it's healthy all throughout the year.
But for the time being no and and like you said, for the time
being Gus Edwards is not back at words, could come back at some
point. I mean, these are like the ways
that it doesn't work out, but it does really look clear that for
the next couple weeks, just as Hills going to be playing and
he's gotta have a role, you're going to be able to start him if
you want. And if diamonds is not healthy,
that's the other side of it. There's multiple ways is can
play. If you can re-injured, whatever,
its it looks now, like it's going to be just as Hill to your
point. Like he looks like he has the
contingent value, the Kenyan Drake stuff.
Didn't work. He wasn't good for two weeks and
they made him an active. We got him on G-Unit, we got him
on got that rushing floor. So we've got some justice fill
in our lives and this is Dalton. Mentioned in the chat.
A minute ago, Shauna was loves to bring it out, just to sell as
a true freshman outperformed, Chris Carson in college, so I
showed up to Oklahoma State now before I'm Chris Carlson future.
But Brooke. Yeah.
Go ahead. Josh.
Yeah I do this. I don't like this agree with a
lot of your to even though I was pushing back on that.
I think the other I think the other contexts to is like how
are you using him on your team and in our team you know what do
you bet up enough to where we would want to be starting in and
if we felt that bad about hendo, maybe we should have gone a
little bit higher because now he's in that rotation with Mel
go you know and Singletary in the interim for who's going to
be the RV to To write on our team.
So, you know, maybe we should have gone more, if we felt like
he was going to be in our weekly conversation for that that
extra. Well, that's why I feel like you
could kind of middle it with Justice, he'll right?
Like, if you needed immediate production, like, I mean, you
could, I've looked at Cardi's projection Paulson's.
Leone's like, Craig Reynolds, Injustice Hill are projected
pretty similarly for this week and then I would say that
Justice Hill has much better, contingent value, rest of
season, one of the best offenses in Fall in a lot of uncertainty
around the health of those other back.
So that's kind of why I liked him is because I feel like you
could tell your story in either direction whether contingent or
Standalone value with him and that harbach, quote like I could
pull that up and I do I shared that in a few chats but it's
like a very bullish quote from Jim Harbaugh like talking about
him as a Bell cow back that he wanted him to be and then he was
happy on how he delivered on that.
Yeah, I feel like he just repeated that from from Last
year when he was the only one left and they were like, well,
he's going to be the guy that's going to take to work load.
And then he started get phased out last year before he comes
across these last year. Well, before he got injured
right. So, you know, he was, he was
starting down that. I mean, when you think about, we
drafted him last year, right after the Gus Edwards and JK
injuries or it was right after the JK injury happened.
Last year, the Dobbins in here. They confirmed during our
streams that we hooked up hill, I think he'll towards it.
Like, before the season that I thought, I don't know.
It was we straight unlike August, okay?
Right 9th or something. So yeah, yeah.
The other thing too is, what was I going to say?
I've talked about Justice Hill, way too much today, I don't even
remember the point. I was going to make about
Justice. Oh, I was just gonna say d that
the fact that they made Kenyan Drake and active on Sunday was
very, very encouraging because they weren't prepared to give
Jake a Dobbins. Full roll.
It seemed pretty clear that they were going to he's Dobbins back
in and they still made rake an active right to give Justice, a
decent amount of work. So, just like how the team feels
about Justice Hill. I feel very confidence.
Hang the team. Is it feels good about Justice
Hill right now? Also the Achilles stuff.
He's one of these guys, right? Where it's like, James Robinson,
Sterling Shepherd. Just as he'll.
So another one I forgetting, They Call Me Cam Akers if yeah,
if he's yeah, he's actually coming on.
He's been increasing Shepherds and tough one to bring up
because he, I mean it was a difficult story, hey CL.
But yeah, maybe it's completely. He was he had made a complete
recovery like he was younger one receiver.
Good. I guess that's probably
completely unrelated. At this rate, I would have to
get a fucking Justice Hill cake made for for week 4.
I mean by God, Charlie Dalton start him /.
DJ more and I'll beat this cake by myself.
All you fuckers didn't believe me, I'm on this check.
Checking chats where like he came in was like a pound of the
table, then the next comment is me being like it just updated
the builds. Thank you.
Yeah, you guys did not feel like we needed to go big on him
because Godwin is getting healthier because that
ultimately why nobody would besides myself was like, hey I
think we need to dump Jewel. In 44 Makenzie, Groucho my
thought process. I saw the Godwin report and I'm
like he'll be back eventually. I think they need they need
Godwin so he can play with in the next project next week.
Week 6 maybe I don't know. So he'll be in our lineup.
So I don't know. But can these wonders like thin
bets that would have told me? Yeah.
What did we did?
We just got a little bit too tight in this league.
We should just we should have been a little more aggressive
cause I think we should been more aggressive on Hill.
Well, I think not get any of these guys.
Would we have been able to beat a 189 bit, which is what he went
for? I don't know.
Who were ever getting good job was.
I would have been happy to get a bit on him, but I don't think
he's, I think I would have compromised in the like 100
range, okay. Yeah, that's where.
I don't know if I would have been.
That's. Alright, but now 25% was me
saying, hey, we really need a guy cuz Godwin still kind of
hurt unsure, Moore's underperforming and Tony still a
zero and you know, that Fortress Respond.
It's just been a concern, you know, each week from.
Yeah, I think absolute worst-case scenario.
We can, we can Flex Melvin Gordon.
We can just play three running backs.
Thanks the why would we need TJ? TJ more come back to life.
I know, right? Like we just really funny
moment, Warden over you, dude. I mean put things in perspective
is much as we're bagging on BJ. More Leone has more projected
for thirteen point three points this week.
He has Isaiah Mackenzie projected for In like it's not
even close on. Who's the better start.
I know we're all frustrated but if you're doing projections like
you can't start as a Mackenzie / DJ more, I'm comfortable going
back to Leone complaining if DJ more fatigued.
So that's the story of Our Lives.
We ignore him when he's right pounding, the table that we
Proclaim him when he's wrong it's we only.
Where's the extra 10 points for a DJ morning?
I have a macro Fab question like just based on the way that
waivers been going so far this year.
Yes, thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, my man, meet people. I don't want it blowing, blowing
money, just to blow money. Like I feel like that's just
been like a common theme that people have done and I feel like
there's an edge right now and like saving your money and like,
not just like blowing money on these random bad batch or in the
season like third, eventually these players in get dropped
during the bias and there's any better options later, I think,
at least and having the money to control the waiver wire.
I think me a huge Edge in these tournaments.
I don't really agree with that or disagree.
I would love to hear thoughts. Well, I think that your point
about guys getting dropped as a really good one because that has
been where a lot of the values been so far.
We had David and Joko get dropped in in our main, we went
to 69 and didn't get them, which I think is fine.
I mean, I bet someone probably like, more like 400.
Yeah, he got dropped by the way, don't do this.
He got dropped before a Thursday night game, so, like they could
have taken the peak for free. Drop your kicker man as such it
This is tied in premium. I don't think they know about
taking a peek. Yeah.
So but I do think and like Sky more, is the guy that we won
today that was over 100 spent 121 on him.
And yeah, obviously he had been someone who has dropped so I
don't know like I guess I'm starting to get a little bit
nervous that there won't be like some out of nowhere running
back, who emerges, as a mega bid but I do think we're going to
continue to see guys. You get get dropped, you
shouldn't like a guy like MacKenzie is a he made guy
that's going to be there in week 7 or week before week seven.
When a lot of the good teams are on by.
I cannot exactly. I know the Eagles.
I came here. Exactly.
Don't buy that week but that's what week were do during it
drop. That shouldn't be and we can
like kind of jump in and bid on a guy there you know so like
instead of like blowing her money now when this Prime not
necessary, Kevin mentioned dogs got added in five leagues for an
average of five hundred and $19. Just wish I could have spent
half my lunch. Get on me about.
I want to prepare for opportunities like that.
When they come up, it's going to happen eventually.
Yeah, and I do think that's the tough thing to because we've
been having this conversation with it for our stat chasing
league around the sky. More bid in basically, what is
the opportunity cost of not having that money in the holster
and it's like two things, right? Where they anybody?
You add your team. Now is worth more than someone,
you add next week or the following week, what they can do
for your team, on the other hand, if you do have a strict
positional, Need you want as much powder on hand to pounce on
that and I guess it is also. Ultimately leak specific.
What are your league mates? Needs how much money do they
have? Are you going to be able to
bully them off of say an obvious bit?
If we have an Eli Mitchell of 2020 to pop up on the waiver
wire? At this point, do you have
enough money to actually win them?
And it's not an easy calculus to make.
You got to look at it on a leap by leap basis but Kennedy line
Mitchell emerge in the sense of like you like Mitchell.
In the first game that the 49ers played was their guy.
Like he was, he was at a guy that team was committed to that.
We didn't know they were committed to and those type of
situations you know, as most are got hurt right away.
I mean, bright, yeah, but he was playing over Trey sermon right
away, right. Wasn't raising a healthy
scratch? Yeah, most are got hurt on like
the second snap and then Elijah Mitchell got like 20 plus
carries like he was right. The guy.
So that type of stuff like is over now, like, there's not
going to be some like, oh, I didn't know the team, love this
guy like that. That that almost can't happen
now. It's mostly just injury
contingency stuff and maybe there's and there probably is
some really talented guy out there that you know, isn't
highly roster that will emerge, of course the season, but it's
going to be a little bit more random like it might be in week
nine or something, this commentary on Fab.
I wrote a really long intro for for part 2 of stealing signals
this week about Fab strategy. I got going with it a little bit
and was Meandering through a lot of different thoughts.
I didn't think it was that Long and somebody joked on Twitter
that it was a four thousand word intro.
And so while we're talking about it for some reason, I decided
that I would go check because I never did go check.
It was thirty three hundred words on fat as introduction.
What the fuck? You said something?
At one point you just stop. You're like you're like, well,
I'm pretty sure I covered everything although it wasn't
that well organized. But anyway, you like made like a
bunch more points. I enjoyed it, but it was good.
I'm sorry. I'm gonna be honest, it was
good. No.
It was a very good article, you might like them a lot.
I need you to work in more fast food, Taco Bell.
Ask anecdote, steerage. That's what I need.
I need your full order. I made.
I did it all Chalupa Supreme. No sour cream.
Add nacho cheese. You guys remember when they had
that nacho cheese chalupa back in the day, you gotta, you gotta
Avalanche of cheese. I'm not a sour cream.
Got you replacing the sour cream with the nacho cheese.
You get the Nacho cheese chalupa.
That's how it sounds when I the night.
It was a couple months ago when I think I've mentioned it on
stream. So in my clutch on my Toyota
Corolla gave out on the middle of the highway, and I had like a
legit near-death experience in Lauren.
Came and picked me up and I ditched my car at some auto body
shop in the middle of nowhere. And I was starving because I
hadn't eaten all day, basically, and I was like, take me to Taco
Bell, right? And I got my weed pain and I got
high on the drive. I've and I just, I spent like
$36 at a Taco, Bell. And so, he's talking incredible.
Absolutely incredible. Mexican pizza Crunchwrap Supreme
Is My Jam. You gotta get the cinnamon
twist. Double decker tacos.
I mean, you got all the Cheesy Gordita Crunch.
I haven't even listed half the order yesterday case.
Cerritos a good one. So good.
Was that crack rocks? We're from Massachusetts.
I wish except we don't even know where that location.
No one knows where Elder See Clearly.
All right guys, Buckeye Boomers, I feel like this team is going
places. We'll figure out wide receiver.
I mean do we need to burn some incense forked area Stony and
Chris Godwin? I mean that's what we need here,
right? Yes.
Uh, yeah, something, John. He's a good guy to have right
now. I was really bullish on him and
stealing signals. I mean, throwing Shepherd, 24
targets, through three games, a targets, a game, he's now out
for the year, right? You have Richard James at 15,
you have David cells at 8, as their third row.
Targeted receiver. That's that's there's no Kenny
Garden, not even playing. And when he does play, doesn't
look good, it's him or Wanda Robinson.
Antonio Rocca Benson that if he's agreed, that, if he doesn't
do it this weekend, when Willie, he's the guy that if he's
acting, I think we actually do plugin.
I mean, I think he's the answer. Yeah, he's gonna get practice
today. So yeah, like, we gotta get
activity on Game Day from him, right start.
So I'll do. We can start over D-Day more.
I mean, I don't think so either. Oh, that's bad.
Yeah, that's bad. The last time he was in the
game, he had like two snaps and one of the Great Hero we can't
start a DJ more YouTubers hurt me.
All right. We're all hurt.
We're all here Ivy. We supposed DJ more Bear right
now, know like what Tony isn't practicing with the hamstring,
and the record. It's not huge.
A Moore's fault. None of this is your fault TJ
more. You're my guy now.
It's, it's not you. It's me.
All right. Right.
It's wonderful night here on ship chasing.
Thank you to our Buckeye Boomers for joining us.
Thank you guys for hanging out in the chat.
Normally we play an outro, but there's only one outro for
tonight. It's visca baby.
Hasta la vista. I gotta play the game.
Hasta la vista.