Ladies and gentlemen, draft season is over.
It's time to pay the piper. Pat Friar, homo.
I believe it's been two weeks since our or even more than that
since our crack rock draft. I think two weeks ago we were
all in route or a week ago we're all in route to Vegas it.
I don't know. It feels like we've lived a
lifetime since we last did a show.
Does it look a lot lifetime just since?
I mean, I was trying to catch up on all of our covanta jur
Discord, threads, negotiating bids, all the I'm already
exhausted and and I barely did any of it.
Well Yeah, I did a lot today but like I think I'm good, like I
think I'm done for the year. You want to know how I know
you're not done for the year because in multiple threads I
saw you use the phrase. We got to keep some powder on
the side. So that's what I did.
I did say that a bunch of times, I am planning for future bids.
So can you guys would make this? Yeah.
Let's You know we got a little while until we reveal the bids.
I do feel like we should do a little bit of a Vegas recap,
just an absolute incredible time.
We got to see so many ship Chasers drafted.
A bunch of teams had a very fun party on Friday night.
Gretch what were your Vegas takeaways?
Yeah first-timer. Here it was I mean I didn't
really I wouldn't say I really had like expectations because I
had gone. Before and didn't have time to
think about it. All through August leading up to
it, it was blew away, whatever they would have been like
getting to just hang out, the much people who so much fun and
dealership Chasers and all the other people that were out there
just like talk football with like, I mean, we're all, you
know, very like-minded. That's what we do here every
week. But very fun to just sit there
and talk about, like the nuances, a fantasy football with
people that are really into this.
Like, we are to have a blast with that.
I will say I don't think I was prepared.
Like I was kind of in rare form. I got pretty hair over it a
couple times. I wasn't super prepared for the
it was the end. It was the August treacherous
writing every single day and like not doing a lot for like a
month and then, you know, I didn't really have much on my
plate. I don't do a lot of like it
would likely only was updating projections in our room and
stuff like I wasn't, I don't need to do that.
Like, I didn't update my rankings anymore after Thursday
night because like some something you know some of my
subscribers are good, man. Events, but most of them are
leagues of started. So from like Thursday, to
Saturday's like this little down time every year before the
season turns around, but I was in Vegas for it and I knew what
was coming. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and
anyway, stealing signals Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, on the back end
was all tough, but it was like this.
Perfect little, you know, window of like, well, we're in Vegas.
So like, yeah, - might as well, just go for it a little bit,
that is the first timers Club to.
I've now learned The rhythms, I normally take Thursday night off
after the game. I go up to the room, I write the
news. I live to see another day and
then I got absolutely Blitzkrieg on Friday night.
I do not remember a lot after the party.
Yeah we had a good time at the Blondie's.
There's some angels envy that our buddy John brought there was
it was good. We we definitely enjoyed
ourselves on Friday. Yeah.
So appreciate Avi I mean I was I remember last year because we
were still kind of on the tail end of a lot of covid.
Shit. I know A bunch of people that
said, hey, next year I'm making it out and it really did seem
like everyone delivered on that because we had such a fun crew
and I guess I'll start pumping it now.
But ship chasing 20:23 Vegas. Just feels a part of the show
and what we like to do. So, definitely start planning
ahead. Now, we can throw an even bigger
party next year. I just remember the conversation
we had with feral to their, the FPC, Ballroom really such a
triple? Yeah.
Oh, my goodness. So, We're just down there.
That was, I mean it really I can't say it.
Enough really was such a blast Academy.
Know the ship Chasers and hang with you guys in person and
everything and it was super super.
Yeah. I never meant been like, yeah,
we had never been easy. That's crazy.
Yeah, because we've done so much stuff together.
You think it's like one of those things were like, yeah, we just
never met. Yeah.
Like talk to each other work together for like, six years.
Sometimes it happens though, like Gretchen I were we met once
and then he forgot that we met, that was theirs ago to.
We had bet that felt that I was out in Seattle with some friends
and I hit up graduate trying to organize meeting up and we were
having a hard time with the logistics and then crunch goes.
Wait, I Met You in Nashville. They say, yeah, we don't have to
worry about it, did we hang with Vegas?
Dave, that is That like if if you go to Canada and you know,
one other person that lives in Canada, you're like did you bump
into that person or something Vegas?
Dave, just it has his name. Yeah.
It's like when you find out someone to college like three
years ahead of you and you're still liked, you know this guy.
Yeah. I mean everyone sees the
pictures of Vegas. It looks big, the reality is
very, very small. And when you go there, you mean,
everyone inside things, we ran into Vegas dick.
So what uh how are you guys feeling after week one?
Like you. It feels like we've lived, a
lifetime. We've all done all kinds of
content, grach Crush in stealing signals getting those out.
How did it feel been to be back in the rhythm of writing that
Behemoth? Are?
There was no rhythm. I mean getting back from Vegas
on Saturday and I'd still drafted Saturday night, turn
around woke up and was like, I mean this is my first day at
home after a vendor in Vegas. Like had a hard time watching
the game. I woke up one day tried to write
it. Was somebody in the chat said I
had a wrote a novel and I mean that it was it was it was
painful. I was not in midseason form week
to be better. I'm excited to be a little more
locked in for a week. Two.
Yeah, yeah. Actually.
I was wondering this to graduate you and buying for doing that
show. No, I decided because the
startup the bedding thing with Dalton Kate's which is, you
know, going really well that I was going to not try to do
seasonal bedding and DFS all at the same time, because it's kind
of a grind with signals in hand all that to try to also get
enough research in on bedding and TFS and just the other few
days of the week signals takes up like half of my week, right?
So I am doing not doing any in DFS specific stuff.
This year, I'm licking my chops because I'm in the stealing
lines Discord. I've been getting your guys's
updates in Massachusetts is so so, so close to legalize
gambling. I think there's just a little
bit more red tape here. So very excited.
To tell you guys over there at stealing lines.
Pat how, how is week one for you?
Are you already starting to write the the walkthrough for
this week? Oh yeah, the walkthrough like
takes me. The whole week to write.
So I'm pretty far along. I feel good.
I'm like through, I do like, kind of the like the game sort
of like Flow Part first and I do the quarterbacks.
And I do the wide receivers and tight ends, and then I do the
running backs last. And I've done, I'm through the
quarterbacks and I'm like, halfway through the wide
receivers and tight ends, which is like way ahead of Iowa where
I would have been this time next year.
Yeah. Yeah.
Pretty psyched. It your do.
Like the whole thing on Thursdays last year?
Yeah, whatever. Arrange my schedule.
So I have my new stuff. I used to have a new shift on
Wednesday morning. I moved it to Monday and so
that's like it's kind of silly how much that has changed for
me. But just like having because
like what I can do and then I can write late night Tuesday, I
can sleep in a little bit then I can pick up and write it just
like helps me stay in the flow. We also moved our preview
podcast from 12 to Thursday's, 5 Wednesday afternoon as well.
So yeah, feeling good guys, what what for you Which was one of
the biggest surprises. You know, from week one, where
there any kind of macro things that that took you off guard or
big fundamental shift, you weren't expecting.
I always get this question with signals and I'm always, like, do
they wrote about every single to you?
Like, I can't be like one thing what?
I know, one of the stats that I said was most surprising to me,
was the Giants being super run-heavy.
Yes, more to do with the taxes, they got sacked four times, you
know, Dean Jones got sacked four times in the first half, fun.
And sake. One was just so electric that
they were like we're just going to give the ball to take one
every time, but they were -12.4 pass rate over expected.
The only team even in the vicinity of Chicago and San Fran
with a to lowest teams which they played in a monsoon, right.
So basically the Giants would've been the lowest team.
Any other week I expect for them to be a positive password over
expected team. That was not ideal for the, for
every one of us could areas Tony.
I mean, obviously, not a great week 1, but I think you also
have to look at it as As Kenny to call it, a was not getting
opened. Route to targets.
Ran a ton, a ton of routes Australian Shepherd, had the
long touchdown exciting. Glad that he's back with, you
know, after coming off the Achilles, but he only gets four
targets. He ran a lot of routes.
Richie. James is there like most
targeted receiver Sake, One Berkeley.
I think they're most targeted player.
If I'm not mistaken. The only through 21 passes Jones
took five sacks overall. They had to scramble a little
bit. They're passing him, had nothing
going, right? And I think pretty clearly
Nearly that they're going to have to figure out a way to get.
Clearest helped me evolve because you look very explosive
on the to handoffs. There's obviously some you know,
Brandon I use 2021 stuff going on there, but I mean I don't
think table wants to be negative. 12 percent pass rate,
over expected. I think you sort of forced into
it but man, Sake One, let's go. I had a little bit of a
different take on that because I noticed in the week 1
walkthrough. I was noting that Daniel Jones
when he was Starting last year they actually had.
They had a really high password of expected on first down, and
he was like 12, 12 percent, or maybe even 14 percent is very
high and they had like a 4% password of expected.
So they were kind of like They've kind of smart like, you
know what I mean, they're kind of doing, they would kind of run
the offense, the way we might want them to under Jason
Garrett, like, in terms of like play design and stuff, I don't
think it's going to be as good as it will be now.
But they were kind of already doing sort of the sharp things.
And in addition to them going super run-heavy this week, they
were super slow. They were 31st and situation
usual pace. So I feel like maybe day balls
just like you guys already tried all the stuff I was going to try
and it didn't work. So I'm just hiding this guy.
So I actually think There might be, the Giants might be like a
very different team than we thought they would be because
that pace is like another strong signal.
I think that they're just not, they're just not running the
offense at all like the bills and we didn't end up with a ton
of Giants on our team, right? Just like one or two Berkeley
shares, one or two could area Stoney shares, kind of, looking
back on our portfolio from draft season, grants are, there are
there? Are guys that you're super
excited on or spooked on that. We're heavier over weight on.
It was a little spooked on Juju, we don't think we have a lot of
him. We took maybe a little bit, I
wasn't as excited about him, but I think he's not that might end
up being someone. We wish we had more of, I was
like, oh, well for me personally not being as on him.
That's a team where we have him. I think we did take a couple
times, but I was kind of out on me two arguments for him.
I mean, the easy one is AJ Brown.
We didn't get enough AJ Brown. There's a couple Some, we were
picking in the early. We didn't get a lot of like,
early picks, which sucks because we would have had Jefferson cup
AJ Brown teams, right? We had a lot of later picks.
We didn't take Brown in the early parts of the draft season
when we also got sniped on Brown in the to, you know, at the end
of the 2002, we got sniped up for I was going to say.
Yeah. So we when we did let so early
on he was a third-round pick, we got him in the light third, the
teams that we had the 105, we had Chase and then pits.
And then we Hoping to get em in the third and we got like,
Higgins. I think on to do we have Chase
pit seconds or we got we were, we were settling on Brown
because we already had Chase and then Higgins fell even though he
gets had a higher ATP and we were annoyed like we and then
like you said, as it got later, when we had the second pick, we
want to Brown by, then he's going middle of the second late
and draft season. We didn't really get the
opportunity to even take him. Well, we got two shares in
Vegas, right? Okay, did we?
Well I mean I want I got one, I would have preferred 50 which
that and obviously after week one I would have preferred 80%.
So like it just feels like we're super light.
I remember before Vegas we're talking we only had one share of
that point. Yeah, and it was a 311 share and
that was what I was like. We need to get more edgy.
Brad, we got him in the high stakes and in the NFC League.
That's right, we got it. We have them on the stat chasing
Tiana. Most a choosing team.
Okay. So that's we got some maybe,
maybe I forgot. We got in the NFC team for a
moment so we have no, but I was ready to go.
Get four more shares of yeah. Brown.
Like I was very much on that on that train so he's won that and
really just a builds. I think that are looking so
good. The top five all look great
McCaffrey you can be a little bit concerned about I'm not
super concerned only 50 snaps offensive ly for Carolina.
That's kind of a problem that they might suck, but he was good
on a person that basis he was McCaffrey his, you know, trap,
Pat came up with the term for trap, the high-value touch
percentage basically was fine. He in have a ton of high-value
touches, he didn't have a ton of touches but he had it pretty
good snap. Share a good route which are
look fine. Like, his profile look fine,
obviously, Taylor and the three receivers all looked Elite and
those teams that have any of those guys, we already knew the
top five was going to be great, look even better.
I mean, if you were at the back and you got sick wondering, got
Swift, you feel pretty good too. But those five and then you got
Brown at the two, three, turn. Those teams are in really good
shape, right? And yeah, we would have built a
that's how we A bill, but we didn't have a lot of.
You only got the one, then you get these fuckin shit Chasers,
and the draft with you and they do crazy shit.
It's a good kind of the mid s. What are you doing, guys?
And then we got, we got Jack and Karen Darren's.
Every door was ajar Jefferson. Teens Jefferson.
Barracks the well and Alex. So in our draft would Alex, we
had some subscribe, chasing wrote of his Bros directly to
our left and it was one of the most painful things ever because
it was a weird room where Oh, guys were sliding but they just
had us blocked. And you're watching AJ Brown
slide and we're actually looking at three wide receivers we were
like holy cow, DJ more Courtland Sutton and AJ Brown are all
still available. I believe at 35 and they go 36,
37, 38 and just fucking ripped our hearts out.
That's trig right there. And then those dudes later,
we're like we're going to roll the clip here and took Skype
more. That's right.
Yeah, so that's that's how it goes.
Ah, I saw someone asked Me about Curtis Samuel in Washington.
I feel like those the commanders have to be one of the other big
surprises from week one. Yeah, thank the commanders and
the Dolphins are probably the two teams were.
I'm like, maybe we're, maybe we were just wrong about.
Like, what? This team wants to be.
I gotta take that. Basically, there's been too much
attention on both of those. The Dolphins I wrote about they
were the highest pass rate of expected team.
But that the lowest expect to pass rate and like 49% their
past rate, their actual pass rate was 61%.
It's not that egregious. It's just that a really low
expect to pass rate and they're willing to throw all I had.
That's Positive, but they're not going to be plus 12%.
Most weeks at first now, yeah, but I thought they were going to
be like a - 8% on the here. Sure.
You know, like if they're if they're at zero for the year
that's I think a pretty big pretty big shift from what my
prior was on that team. That's very fair.
I guess that was more, I talk. I mean, I think, I don't know if
it was on ship, chasing as much run on bananas, but I thought
they would like I wasn't as in unlike Chase Edmunds know.
Really cause I thought they would use Tyreke in the short
passing game and waddling short passing.
You kind of like the Debo roll with Mike McDaniel coming over.
I think we saw a lot of that. Tyree thing motions around a
ton. If you go look at his route
chart, the next gen strats, it was like all of those routes are
starting horizontally because he was in motion even if brows
which is I think really sharp get him moving and then yeah,
it's almost like an arena football thing.
Like every route is on the move at the snap but or what is it?
In football where they could like motion straight towards the
line that's Canadian, right? They must be kidding but then
Washington, like once had some really bad throws early like you
had a wide-open not sit on the sidelines and you just threw him
out of bounds. He chucked one over, Logan
Thomas has a when he was the thing about Wednesday is that
he's bad? Yeah.
So then he got hot late in a in a big come-from-behind script
hit on a couple long touchdowns the password over expected looks
good and everyone's like hey washing his passing is gonna be
good like when it sucks. I'm not in it.
Like that's where I'm at. I'm not in but I do Wonder like
they were fourteen percent password expected on First and
Ten like I don't I didn't expect that.
I'd even think this isn't like the range of outcomes.
So it's pretty interesting that and and one of the things is
that they got progressively more run-heavy last year as they kind
of like lost faith and Taylor heinicke.
So like I think maybe we should have seen this coming at to an
extent that they might like want to be a very different team in
terms of identity than they were last year.
Yeah, and just scrolling through, you know, our teams.
I think we're close to real little under 500.
The first week, I'm thinking the stuff that really hurt us.
Obviously, missing out on George kittel had a decent amount of
him. Took some bagels from Devon to
Smith. Is there anything else across
our portfolio? You think that got us off to
this will start pits. Obviously had the rough week one
wasn't great train. Lance had a rough week 1 and
Andrews didn't do much. I think we only have one chair
him. Yeah, we have plenty, we have
some, some pits and lands teams. And when you know, you're really
hoping for the elite QB, a leak tight, and I think that's going
to be fine, but it's tough and week one to get into such a
points. Hold because they both didn't
hit, you know. Yeah, here's our team with Davis
which somehow gets a loss with Justin Jefferson in the lineup
but when you draft fucking dust ball, Derrick Henry in the
second round, you know, that's just kind of what you're asking
for. I guess.
Can you imagine having AJ Brown on this team?
We took right? We took the fucking Big Dawg.
Why don't we take? Grown-ass man, and AJ Brown has
been going. No, it wasn't gone.
No, I don't think he was, or was he?
I can't remember. No Davis is telling us the scoop
the value. He fucking better of B.
Yeah. Where are you guys at on?
Lance? There's been lots of
hand-wringing about him. Obviously, the weather there AJ
Brown went to 01 and That dress. Okay, thank God.
I remember we didn't even really discussing.
I feel like I would have been a lot more devastated about the
Derrick Henry pic of her age a problem.
Hey, what? If it's the unique combo you
need? Are we panicking on Lance?
No no I'm not panicking only I mean he's bad like he's
definitely bad but like the blood moon it's kind of like I
think it hurts his upside seeing that like yeah he probably is
bad. But I mean with Lance it's like
dude like he's gonna run so much, he can be bad.
Like he can be like I don't want to be quite as bad as Tebow, but
like I think he can be fine even if he's just straight up that
and then also how bad because He was in the rain like it's it
remains to be seen exactly how bad I actually thought he made
some really good throws for the conditions and I seem to be the
only one that thinks that but there was some crossers.
There were right. I saw a really good throw.
Well, this is a joke. Yeah, he's smiling.
No, no, no, I didn't. I am gone back and watch the
tape, but I but so there were people who were tweeting out
some throws and I was like to eat there.
Were some good throws. Yeah he had a, you're doing a
joke. Like I saw good throat to the
bears but he had a couple good throws.
He had a couple that were pretty awful.
He had a couple. I mean he had a couple where I
thought, The pockets kind of collapsing and he gets the ball
out and it's low but like there was covered, you know, there's
Defenders nearby and it just looked like an extended
throwaway sort of, he's throwing it towards the guys feet,
definitely some missed throws but like when you're playing in
the rain and you already expected this guy to be terrible
like I thought he looked kind of bad in the was it the last
preseason game on some short like there's a short out to kill
he just like fired it outside of him and he was like five yards
from him and like take a little off that buddy.
I didn't see a lot of that. I mean.
Assaf. You bad throws that I was kind
of shocked into the rain. I'm a huge apologist but I
thought some of the stuff that was when the field was decent on
some of the like intermediate crossers was super like on time,
there was one to Brandon iuq was wide open but right on time gave
him the, you know, the ability to catch and run.
There was one to Ray Ray McLeod, there was a few more Defenders
nearby perfectly, you know, layered in over the over the
Defenders and in front of the guys behind him with zip, like I
think some cuties make that a bang bang play.
Say, I mean, he has velocity where you need it, he didn't
throw everything, perfect, he was short, you know, down the
field on Juwan Jennings, but there was a, there was plenty.
I think to be okay with with how bad the conditions were Joshua
says, Lance is like TiVo with a worse arm, which is, which is
actual slander. I mean, TiVo had the worst are.
I mean, see I literally was like early just like it was like he
was in the full wind-up from the mound.
I think it is early Josh. And I think he's really early
career, Josh Allen, he missed some short throws that he
shouldn't have missed, but he has the velocity, he gets the
ball down the field and do some good Windows.
He runs aggressively competitively like to I'm a
little worried, he's getting himself hurt because he's trying
to like On over every Defender he can.
He puts his nose out there? I to I Really, I was like,
frankly impressed, I guess. Maybe I had lower expectations.
Yeah, let's let's stick with the Niners.
Let's pivot this a little bit toward waiver.
So another week to waver run, another 49ers injury, Eli,
Mitchell going to be out what 6 to 8 weeks at minimum, Jeff
Wilson, probably roster and most leagues.
How are we feeling? About what else is going on in
that backfield is? There are there stabs?
We should be taken here. Well, I guess so.
I'm I don't want to get like two.
It's on it's an uncertain backfield where traditionally it
has been wildly shifting week to week, but there's guys you want
to start. It's not ones back.
Feels that just devolves into muck like as usual, there's
usually value and starting like the guy that week even though it
never seems to be the same guy for like 1, 2 3.
It's a row. So I don't want to like decide
who it is. I basically think the right move
is probably to just take stabs at the one of the guys is
available on your leash. Probably grab them that said I
feel like Mason not playing a snap last year last week seems
bad. Like Mitchell wanted Mitchell
get her. It was fairly early on, right?
Yeah. It was we wait you're talking
about this game this in the game he got hurt, you know yeah
early. Yeah, early, yeah.
So like then Mason doesn't see a single snap in that game.
And he's active. So it's like kind of hard for
now. Maybe like maybe gets a week
practice and the like, okay now we're ready to trust him but it
doesn't seem like great. Like I think tearing David's
price is probably a pretty good bet to be ahead of Mason is the
number two, just because he didn't see a sap.
Like why wouldn't they claim if they want to play?
Yeah. And what do you think a lot of
people talking about and I mean it makes sense right Debo get a
little bit more rushing work. Maybe a few more designed runs
for lands but there still is what I mean, 15 targets or 15
carries like up for grabs, now that have to get distributed,
even Beyond those guys, I think I'm texting, and I'm talking to
myself. I'm used to.
So I'm doing some last-minute, waiver stuff.
Ya know, Pat made the point about the about Mason not
playing. I don't think that's good.
I also think we just don't know anything with Kyle Shanahan.
I mean, maybe he wasn't a part of the game plan this week.
They just felt comfortable with with Jeff Wilson.
I will say Depot. Got carries from the 4 and the 6
yard locking. You got a little bit of, like,
good luck kind of stopped. Evil say no laughs blows.
He's our goal line back type of thing and he scored on one of
those. I think he's going to be, you
know, a big part of that element of it, obviously Lance ran a lot
of design runs. We don't know how much of that
was the weather. But I you know, I do think
there's an element where it's possible.
They just didn't necessarily have Mason in the game plan but
they got to go back and reassess and they just like I think what
Pat says very possible to the TVP is ahead of Mason frankly
because Mason didn't play in. The fact that CDP was an
activist a positive. I also think it's possible that
Mason just wasn't a part of the game plan.
They weren't intending. They had Debo, you know, stuff
lined up, they had Elijah Mitchell and they had Jeff
Wilson and now they don't have Elijah Mitchell and they got to
have either. A sin or TVP ready this weekend.
They'll have a different sort of game plan idea in mind going
into this game and that Mason might be the one who wins that,
right? I mean, I guess, I guess.
Yeah, I don't think we know. And so it's like, you guys were
saying, like, we don't ever know what, Shanahan's backs, even the
Elijah Mitchell. Think last year, it was
obviously most hurt, most her goes down right away, but it was
still really surprising to see how much Mitchell played at that
time was like, oh will be sermon.
It'll, you know, like I feel like there's a possibility Mason
could just play a lot. I think there is two.
Yeah I did. It doesn't feel like that's
going to happen to me but I'm also I very much feel like I
also might I don't trust my feel with Shannon because he's
surprised that so many times and there's upside there because
Mitchell is going to be out for a while.
We talk about the churn and I get questions now because I've
written about it a lot through my sub stack that are, who are
the types of guys cuz I've talked about how you want to
Stack that. So you want like this is a
perfect example of you got to running back the didn't do what
you wanted to meet one, you're ready to cut him.
Everyone's gonna be on even if you're in like a shallow League,
that's not a FF PC week and Jeff Wilson's available.
You don't have to take will sir if you can't get him or
whatever. Take TVP take, May sit like this
is, this is the perfect backfield to be churning for a
week. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just take some shots and see and then kind of get that
information. Yeah, we got it.
We are indeed going to get new information, right?
Yeah. Because I can't even think, I
mean, I guess if you have like, I know that one roster that you
and Shawn did, were you guys had like, four early running backs?
Like I can't think of really many other rosters where you
shouldn't be at least having some floor bids on TDP and
Mason. There's just there's just too
much opportunity here even. I know during our drafts and I
know you guys weren't high on TDPI, still just wanted to take
a peek obviously TDP was going to be buried if this didn't
happen which was when the range of outcomes but you open
yourself up to scenarios like this and now we're going to get
I think some pretty interesting information on Mason verse TDP
and I don't I'm not I don't feel comfortable, making a bet solid.
We in One Direction or the other.
Yeah I agree. I don't either I do think it's
very possible that it is like Jeff Wilson and kilo which
should be too. Yeah.
The answer might be no.
Right. Which is also fine but I think
yeah you want to keep it pretty cheap and let Jeff Wilson's out
there go get them. Right.
You go get Jeff Wilson for sure but I think at least 33% on him
probably. Yeah.
Yeah for sure but I would not keep it cheap on them on even
TDP. I think go, maybe go get a
little bit. I would still type of guy you
might drop in two weeks. Yeah.
I mean we were going through all of the stuff I mean there isn't
a real big prize on the waiver. I mean we were bidden 800 on Eli
Mitchell at this time last year, like we're there.
Are we even looser and Lucy, it's a wrap.
Lead three digit range. I don't think so.
There's not a lot. I don't have a lot of three.
I have a lot of teams and, and almost all of them going really
low. What was most past line?
Keep the powder in The Keg or something keeps get this the
pattern because our dry, you keep the powder dry.
You can have it. Yeah, we're keeping the powder
dry this week. Yeah.
I think anything. Yeah, there's like, you know,
there's some guys are interesting.
You kind of like, oh, what about this guy?
What about this guy feel like when you're in that mode, where
you're kind, Of like throwing out.
Oh, there's another guy. Oh, this guy's camera stink off
in your craft throwing guys out. Just lower your beds, right?
Because it's like you're it's kind of like oh there's a bunch
of guys who are all kind of fine to me.
That's like a sign that really these are just churn guys.
You're kind of just mining, so just keep it cheap, you know,
thrown back at they're not anything and they're probably
not, it feels like that. Kind of week.
Frank leaves of beer, the gag. Trust me.
We didn't leave any parents. We did it.
I went up to people like we're out of beer and he's like, yeah.
Drinking for a long time. It's like 3:00 in the morning.
That's it. I thought it was like, 12.
Good. That was when our two-party was
right after the 10K, which had two drafts prior.
Like it was Friday, was the day that we did.
All these drafts built into the 10K which was, you know, not?
We were taking that one pretty seriously, right?
And that afterward I was like, but I've actually been about
Route 10. You know what, my favorite part
of the draft was we're of the weekend.
Maybe was We got to that 10K, we sat down, we had all our laptops
out at plenty of room, like half the league was doing it remote.
So we all sat down on a lot of the other dress Pete and I were
kind of hovering this one, we all are sat down.
Pete's got his laptop out, got a chat up we're talking and it's
me at Lee Odeon path like taking it very seriously and Pete is
just doing a stand-up comedy. Our it just for like to see what
other drafters and other things and it was just I mean I was
laughing out loud in, this is very true.
It was like everyone else is very tensed and we had literally
giggling we're in a corner. Yeah.
And there were four of us and we were giggling.
We were the new guys giggling that way.
I think it was because of her all the other drafts we were Ben
and I were hovering and you guys were on your laptop.
It was my first draft that I got to sit down with my laptop and I
just went full ship, poster for two hours and you have a lot of
good takes about the trip to. But I mean just so many good,
especially when we weren't on the clock or way.
Wait for it to come back around and we're kind of talk about
what's, you know, what's coming up on the next next?
Pick pieces. Just throw it in so many funny
one-liners. It was amazing.
Sam says very this coming because, yeah, my brain is
broken because I keep hearing we have a 10K tonight.
I was thinking, wait, you're gonna go run.
Six miles perfectly. I think our brains are broken.
That's healthy. You're like it's okay.
One guy who would have been maybe in the five hundred dollar
range this week. Was Jalen Warren, it better.
If what's-his-face Nagi, Harris was out what I mean, what are
you guys feeling about Warren? Now playing all the snaps when
Nagi wasn't in. Looks good.
I mean yeah I would say before not as you went out he had was
very inefficient as forgot offensive line.
Look terrible. All of the like bad news is that
it tends to be an efficient. Do you think there's anything?
But it might just be their team and they're lying and everything
too. So maybe there's not, you know,
a massive amount of upside there, he's gone and like all my
league so I don't have any pets on him but I would probably be a
couple hundred. I don't think I would be we
chat. We double-check that he's not
available, right? And all the leaves.
Yeah we drafted and pretty aggressively in one of ours.
I didn't go to all the ones that I'm not on through his search.
He is a no he's not available only okay.
Yeah he got drafted in like old someone other names that are
interesting this week. I'm seeing a couple.
How about some of the wide receivers?
I see a dpj out targeted. Amari Cooper.
I'm seeing a Kyle Phillips. Any interesting names at wide
receiver here. You guys, what are your takes on
this cow, Philip stuff? I thought it looked good.
He's a good rookie, you. So you have this like wide range
of outcomes at the same time. He's a he's a slot receiver and
an offense that historically has not really done a lot with the
slot receiver Robert Woods and Nicholas perk in a random bunch
of routes. Both learned to targets, did not
look particularly good Woods. Obviously the guy who had higher
expectations there, but did not look good trailing.
Burke's runs only 13 routes gets five targets is very effective
Pat. You've noted as a DOT was super
high. I think his routes are going to
scale up pretty quick in the trail of Mercia ceiling.
Even though people are like, oh hey Kyle Field play way more
than perks. Well, he won the slot role and
and that's what he just did is probably his role, you know.
He, I think he has a little room to grow because he was that
like, I should pull it up. I think he could get up to like,
80%, right in the slot. And I think he was at like, 60.
So he's got a little bit of room to grow, but I do.
I agree with the general point that he has less upside for his
role to really. And then once Burke's kind of
comes on, I think it's a little harder for him to be like, a 9
Target guy. I think part of that was Yeah,
it was woods and and NWI basically.
So I'm not super like high on him long-term, he's a slot
receiver again in an offense that uses multiple tight ends
and stuff but he's gonna have. Some perks is fun.
Like Burke's has first only played 14 percent of a snaps on
the slot. You get 11 of 14 routes on the
outside of one in line which is kind of interesting.
But you know, she's playing primarily in the outside, get a
19-8 out. So true deep threat.
He had a 38 percent Target throughout run.
I mean, it's all it's all great. Yeah, super super small sample
but this is it's great. What you want.
Is there playing him in the position where you actually has
upside out wide and deep. He's showing that you can earn
targets, he had an 11 yards per Target which is like exactly
what you would expect. It is a DOT so he didn't, you
know, he was good, one, targeted.
So it's all good. He only had 37 percent route,
right? So he needs to come up.
You know, just an unbelievable amount but he's a rookie, so
they're kind of em. Yeah, we knew we knew that like
he had a bad offseason. We knew they were going to use
them in. No way that with AJ Brown a few
years ago I think they'll be quicker to use him in and they
were Brown. It took till like week 9 with
brown and then Brown has wide receiver sticks from them, not
on, hopefully they learn their lesson that rookies can actually
make an impact Kathy's go, like think can't do anything given
the ease in I would definitely prefer not and he's in but given
the he's in like this is everything else you want to say?
Yeah I was going to say. I mean there was How training
camp would have indicated. It was like he was aiming to see
the field week. One was how they made it seem.
So, this seems like, gravy bacon.
Again, the, the point I was making with Robert Woods and
Nick West, perfect DNA, not doing anything, is that that?
I mean, that helped kind of Phillips in week 1.
I think it's also like the doors wide open for trailing perks.
I mean Woods needed to be the nine Target guy in this game to
really keep perks off the field. What look what do they have to
lose at this point? They got it.
I think they're going to scale them up pretty quick.
They waited a long time with brown a few years ago, I don't
think that'll happen here. The other thing with Woods that
I think is important to note is that he had an eight out of 15
and that is not his game just had underneath.
He's been underneath Target for three straight Seasons.
He's coming off a torn ACL. Like if that if their plan for
Woods is for him to be the Deep threat, it's going to go about
as well as it did this week when he Had one reception for 13
yards. Yeah, he had two Targets so the
a DOT stuff is, you know. Yeah.
Sure it's a little small but I'm
saying like that's, you know, get them what they should do.
And what I think they will eventually do is, they'll take
what Nick Westbrook and Kini off.
Robert Woods will kind of be that a little bit more kind of
underneath guy that actually suits them.
Better and perks will be kind of the primary downfield guy.
That's what I'm hoping. Yeah.
And then and then we fucking print.
Yeah, the other thing I would I would note on Warren played all
those snaps after Harris went out.
Benny Snell was active third, running back, only played on
special teams, same deal in Cincinnati.
Chris Evans, active, third, running back only played on
special teams. Perine got all of the backup
work. Same deal with the Box.
All the Keshawn Vaughn was inactive, but Gio Bernard
active. Third running back.
Did not play any offensive snaps.
Same deal with the Cardinals. This is like a theme of week
one. Where we got some clarity email,
it was getting a little unclear on later in August.
There was some talk of Jonathan Ward, both board, and Darryl
Williams active. Both plant special teams both
don't get a single snap in the offense, even with the blowout
loss. Where Connor went out and, you
know, basically got all the run late, so I thinki know, Shaun
White Warren perine. If you have those guys in think
those are all very clear handcuffs at the moment but like
you know, we don't necessarily we all play out but they should
all be valued pretty. Pretty favorably, good offenses.
I mean Except for Pittsburgh, but the other three year old
could offenses. Oh, and can we do as a real app
on Johnny? No, I mean, it's exactly what we
wanted. I mean, Jalen war or Darrell
Williams, not touching the ball, not it.
What did he didn't? See a snap.
I only saw so step that was literally the whole what
adjustment all of the number three backs.
And all those offenses didn't see us now.
It's incredible. But that was the theme of
everything I just said I'm trying to find our beds that I
can reveal for people here. Yes, I am in trade negotiations
with Tyler algier. He wanted.
T Higgins from me for Sterling Shepherd, and Marty Cooper and I
countered involving Tyler algier in the trade itself.
I was willing to part with t Higgins, for Tyree kill, and
Tyler algae. Or if he wants to give himself
back to me in the trade but he rejected that and sent me back
another garbage offer. So I'm just done with Tyler,
man. He's just Just he's just all you
tried to get Tyler. I'll cheer from Tyler algae.
Yes. Well, I thought it'd be a really
good bit of. I'll give you the guy, you want
in the trade, but you have to give me back yourself.
And he said, well, trade you him, say he won't trade me
himself. I mean, he's high on himself, do
with that what you will. All right.
Okay. I mean, let's up those Tyler off
your boots. I think we should.
Yeah, make sure I'm going to check.
He's not available. Anywhere is what I'm gonna do?
Yeah, someone someone named a player in the chat and I'll read
you a bit. I'll read you but it from 10.
Let's start with sacred Samuel real quick.
Yeah, do it for minutes left. It's way too early for this.
I want to read them all. Samuel was Daniel's kind of like
the fries, right? Like peoples.
I know some people are kind of excited about him but I guess I
wasn't that excited about Samuel.
I feel like I mean I think it's like a 1.48 out or something
like, I don't know. It just feels gimmicky and I'm
I'm generally with you Ben that I don't think Washington is
going to be an offense that we're excited to have like
ancillary pieces up. Yeah, see.
I mean, the Samuel stuff like again, they threw a ton of
passes. They were very aggressive this
week. I'm skeptical.
They'll be of that way. Every week you also have like, I
mean, we are collectively with the excitement on Samuel and
dots and saying that Terry McLaren is dust.
And I don't, I mean, I was down on Tara McClure and I ranked him
like three tiers lower than where he was going.
I don't think he's like completely done, like he's still
probably going to be their number one receiver, the issue
was the dots. And single might be more
competition than he's had. But Dotson very active, McLaren
still going to be active. The total pass Point might come
down. I guess I just don't see how
same you will. Is like that amazing but that's
kind of like that. I'll tell you one team where
we're bidding on Curtis Samuel one where we started Nagi Harris
and Austin Eckler. That's a team where you need
courtesy of. Y'all should take another round
of that and that League. Why did we take any running
backs? It is fertile, right?
With a, the one running. There's three you want to JT.
We broke. Drafty Swift, accentuated, and
took Running backs and then it was the year where all of the
receivers smashed and we're just sitting here looking at our
fucking Derrick, Henry and nausea ears.
And, you know, it's okay. I was just gonna say, I was
looking at our team that we drafted our very first slow Main
Event. Draft from back in July, we got
off to a one and I'll start. It's a super fun team.
It was the Higgins. Chase pits team.
I'm looking at the team. We have to play this week.
This guy has hurts Cooper cup, AJ Brown and Gabe Davis.
I'm like, why do we To play this guy right now.
I mean, that's, this is just really twisting the knife.
See, that's the stuff where you got cup, and then you got AJ,
Brown has a 23, a team probably got gig Davis at the 45, because
he'll remember, he sniped us on it because we did our mini shots
about gate, Davis, and Rashad Bateman took government 504.
We wanted to 505, we were waiting on Davis, we were pissed
about that. Leone's been very excited to
tell us that Julio is going to save our 10K team.
I mean, I've never seen someone more happy than an Leone than we
have Leah, get Wilson trailing burps and Sky more and they're
all dead to him. Only God could save us as Julio
Jones now at the risk of ruining this bit I do you guys remember
who suggested William I think was it Leone?
The only one put it on the Oni. I was like my kind of canceling,
Chase Claypool. Vetoing just play pool so I was
like look I'm on ironically it on on Julio Pete you got to give
him a bed. They freaking I jajuan Johnson
$6 guy from every single League we're gonna lose ryrylee Radha
likes dollars and every week Ronald yields four dollars take
a peak tomorrow night. Another July Johnson, six dollar
bid do with that. What you will, there's a few.
Everything, why did you read the one guy?
No one was talking about. No bids for the penta.
No, but here's the thing. It was actually really great
because it was only like 30 seconds and you read somebody
that nobody had beds on. So they had to go create a new
bid and try to look up Joe. Ron Johnson and they couldn't
find that fucker. Hey, I put in which the penta
what have I do it? I think it locked when I went
and refreshed. Okay.
I was I was clicking through leaks and then I think they all
got cleared at 10 amazing? Yep.
Get rekt tiebreaker on those Row.
Joe bids. We also have a, I think we're
dropping Road, Joe and some leeks and pick him up in others.
So it's a real Rorschach test week for a where you stand on
Rocha. My favorite thing now is every
time Davis comes into our group chat.
He's like so scared about floating cutting Row, Joe.
He's like because he sells you're just gonna we're gonna
clap back at him. Yeah, I wanted to drop Road Joe
or as a mere white Hilliard was the other guy that yeah, that
people were kind of excited about that.
I also didn't Yeah. All right.
It's gonna be about. I know we have a little bit of a
lag on till when these process Buckeye Boomers.
Have you guys updated your screen share technology?
This year, I need high res screen shares here so we can
reveal these big groupings. Where do you get them quick?
I forgot it's mobile. I believe is where these guys
get them quickly for some reason.
So I cuz I remember last year, G and the Boomers all sending me
screenshots on their phone. Yeah.
I think there's like a progression right where you can
go and see how much of your bid you have left and then it takes
a second to populate. Yeah, I'm just looking at the
pencil ones. I said I put in jajuan Johnson
for $2. Hassan said, I don't hate it.
He is the our before he is not. That's why he's a tight end for
the New Orleans Saints. I feel bad.
We weren't responding to Hassan earlier.
Cutting, Boston, Scott. I think he was referring to.
I did the same thing. That's why I know that I saw
that message earlier, and I was like, jajuan, Johnson, sit
tight, and it's like, oh, yeah. Oh, that's okay.
That that actually doesn't make sense.
Who had the highest bid I did when I was tapping through, I
did see we had $132 TDP out there somewhere.
We had a 200 dollar TDP video, 132 132 TDP I think on I think
on ship Chase yacht club we did I believe.
So I know about 5:00, I went through and just lowered and I
just lowered every bit we had there was a there was a lot of
chat going on with all of our leagues in Discord today which
is, you know, it was fun, but I was also like busy like holy
crap. There's a lot going on here,
click through a few of them and saw some beds and I was just
like this is there were some people excited to spend somebody
like this is not the week that I would have been spending
hundreds of we did we did it for the most part.
We did not spend money because I want you there were like 30.
It's like 39 to like becomes Has to like 21 becomes 1.
Yeah, like that's what I was like, literally.
Just like, no, like we're just, we're just bringing words
raining at all. And I really think it was that
kind of week. Yeah, sparked.
Keep the powder. The Keg, I think, I think we
got. Or did we on on ship Chase?
Yacht Club did we have a bid run, where we spent a decent
amount on the first one? Because we already it says we're
down to six seventy six five dollars remaining.
But we didn't get TDP. Ryan says, I don't know.
Who's out this money on ya live, where did this money?
But check 000 Pacheco. Okay, yeah, gotcha.
All right. That makes more sense.
What's this team is bad? I was against that and I'm glad
we did. I'm glad you talked me into that
because love all of us carries four in the fourth quarter, but
he ran efficiently. And I think that's pretty big
for the idea that like if he didn't run effectively, early
maybe Row, Joe would have got a chance to not be the inactive at
some point. I think pretty because you know
we know pacheco's playing special teams to the fact that
ceh played well, the fact that McKinnon and Pacheco all played
well probably means Rojo's got to be an active for a couple
more we Basically taking a peek this week to see if somebody
gets hurt. I think they're still upside
there. Somebody gets hurt right and he
starts being active of upside. Yeah but right now you have I
think a possibility on Thursday night here at the Pacheco is
actually working in more early even though in week one.
It was all late for me that like, you know, I do this signal
and noise. Maybe that would have seemed
like noise. Oh, yeah.
He was their leading rusher, but it was all late.
I don't think I necessarily call that noise.
I mean to me it was like, oh well he ran effectively.
They were probably looking to see that, you know.
Yeah, a seventh round rookie like, you know, he's not going
to have a huge role week, one, the fact that they did put him
in and garbage time And you're kind of like let's see what this
guy can do. I think is somewhat encouraging.
Hmm, people want updates on crack rock in the crack crack
team. I can't give you updates on
crack, doc, crack rock. He's an international Man of
Mystery. We did lose a nail biter here.
In this one, this team, this team has better days ahead,
though. He tell you that much.
Hey guys, feel about Darnell Mooney this, I guess the the
rain. We don't know, but that doesn't
didn't see my teal. I mean, I don't think you can
really knock him for playing. Does it downfield threaded?
It was a fuckin mansu like, that was insane.
Yeah, that was the rainiest game.
I've watched a lot of football. I'm, I cannot think of a Rainier
game. The for the end of the fourth
quarters, you guys see when the Niners got the ball back down,
nine and like needed to throw and it was, they were waiting
through like three inches of water.
There it wasn't there. The Jacksonville game, like
three or four years ago, that was insanely rainy for something
I've ever run up. And like having a good run in,
just the most gross. Rainy weather feeling was Jack's
well, maybe Carolina Burger hurricane may be all right, bids
are rolling in folks. The screenshots are coming in
shoutout to CRM. Look at this really nice.
Ami Bowl 2011 Jacksonville Jaguars, this doesn't even look
rainy. TDP 283.
The top bid in this league the ship Chase Yacht.
Club Jordan Mason goes into 31. Okay.
We're not gonna have a lot of Mason if this holds whoa. $13
you want Johnson, baby? John Johnson, 80% route.
Right guys? What are we doing?
We're just letting them come. Those Four, Thirteen bucks just
sneaking through this week. I'm so excited to cut him next
week. He for gonna cut this shit out
of them. Yeah, wait, young Hoku 471,
House of orange. Like I just figured out it.
There's a kicker whose name is Young gokou' and you got
excited. That is incredible.
I am very excited about jajuan Johnson but part of the reason
I'm excited. Because we can cut them, right?
We get them for 13 years, throw him back as young.
Its young way. Is he young way?
It's his way or the highway this?
Then we did get Let's see, Curtis Samuel goes 4251.
We get we get jajuan Johnson 423.
Oh you bumped all those bits tight?
You were like screw these six dollar.
B, which beds, he didn't know I brought these down to Juan
Johnson. I think this is only six bucks.
This one. We want bigger.
I think we're the only people who bet on John Johnson, on in
any lie. Anyway, I believe are most
expensive bid on. This is our team, G-Unit and
we'd rat with with Chris and Jonathan and we did pick up Das
ji reminds me, Jordan Mason for a dollar on Sunday morning,
little snuck that one in ahead of time.
Beautiful. Greg Dortch alert $28 Anything
else? Interesting here, Mariota, 91
Wentz. 101, Kyle Phillips. 110 all right.
Yeah, the Phillips and dpj stuff is like, if you that's kind of
what I assumed, you have to spend to get those guys
Phillips. I think I get it a little more.
Like yeah I keep the pain. 110 for Phillips.
Not for DS are slow Bros draft with Silas and it Maddie and
Willis. We got jajuan Johnson.
So Ben's theory, that we got you on Johnson on every team, he is
now probably who have the highest exposure to across City
player. Let's go.
Hey, look, important thing about jajuan Johnson, 12.7%, Target
Sprout, run last year offense, with no one to compete with
your. He's got actual Partners around
him. Here's what you need to know
about John Johnson. That isn't bearish, he ran a
458, 40 hit a sub 73 cone. He had 27 percent dominated
writing is a converted wide receiver And yeah, I didn't have
great cars problem, but he's like the fourth tight end.
Yeah. Like like four games above 4%,
right? Oh my God, he went for $277 in
that Lee, money, 27 knows what's up.
No! Ow, ow!
Yeah. Ow, let's go money.
That was the biggest Pat like moment ever like, dude, you
gotta cheat jajuan Johnson everywhere.
I just saved us. 100, 200 bucks. I can't do anything.
Looks amazing. I love it.
Dude, I mean we got tight almost every tight end the NFL's.
Not very good. Yeah.
So you just you pick up the guys, around a bunch of rounds.
Jordan Mason 68 bucks there. Can't be letting go 69 but they
still got him impressive. Daniel Jones, 31, Cade York were
bidding $25 for Cade York. Oh, he may look a 58 yard field
goal though. All right.
Okay, with the game.
I was starting to I was a little freaked out by her $7 Cincinnati
pit. What are you talking to Gigi
money? 27 know something, we don't
know, he knows what we do know. He doesn't, you know, he doesn't
realize that we have a lot of exposure and a lot lower prices,
baby, a also hang on. Let me go.
Back to this Buckeye Boomers, I don't know what you guys did
with your technology. It's evolving much, much better,
this year. Very legible I can read it.
It's weird. Yeah I actually prefer the old
way. I might know, I kind of enjoyed
trying to figure out his were like a tradition that I could
ever know what I've been through.
Here's our slow Bros could receive.
That would have been a lot more fun.
Six bucks. I love this perine bit like when
I was going through them real quick, I was almost going to
Advocate that we raise the perine bid but two bucks is
that's nice for a little sneak on there.
Oh yeah, that's great. I didn't see he was available
there. That's awesome.
I do those guys want to single bummer, he went for 2:57 in that
League. We talked about being really
high, but we did not get that high.
What's going on with Cade. Your quit was someone put was
Denny pump and Cade York, this. Week or something.
I don't think he hit that long field goal.
Dude. Yeah.
A terrible offense, but we doing out here.
I feel like I got to get some cave.
Your you got Jordan Basin for 109, you got Phillips down at 50
in that one, that's pretty good price.
Sterling Shepherd for 4 bucks in that one.
You want for like 120, and one of the other ones, You're by the
calendar. Separate it fast of?
Yeah, I wonder Shepherds ago, we slept on I've moved him to the
top of some really low beds and a couple of mine.
But I mean, Samuel, I would take over and but over the, the group
of, you know, dpj Carter Phillips.
I think I would just take Shepherd.
He only had two Targets and I for thing to catches P, if I
thought of it too, I think everyone was just frothy to get
bids in this week. Everyone just wanted to blast
off even though there's nothing to blast off on, but you're
gonna be happy that you got powder.
Still in The Keg when it comes time to blow that cake.
What? Recommend if you're in this
situation lasting peace because you do want to have a keg, the
blow when it's time to blow okay.
You got to have that gate ready right.
I think you get excited about a guy who's definitely not going
to pay off, but it's cheap. And then that keeps that range
in feel like I'm Gonna Get You On Johnson or an absolutely
gonna get it for five bucks. That keeps your other bids
reined in. So I do recommend it.
I mean, this is what you do. You keep some powder in the cake
invite you on Johnson over and you just chill.
It's chill. All right.
You do if you're not using the cake, well then, yeah.
Then you invite some ijp right over to you got a party?
No. Yeah.
I'm watching highlights from this rain game and the
Jacksonville, great great recall by the way.
It was definitely wet. I don't think it was as one of
Chicago. Who was the running back there?
I'm JD that's, I think. Yeah, Nvidia Rhys Jones Drew has
this long run up the middle. Yes.
Just what you said I clicked right to it.
Cam Newton must've been his rookie year. 2011, I I think
he's playing QB for the Panthers in Jacksonville, see that in
case six my head because I think that was the that was the first
year where I'd like really started taking fantasy.
Seriously again after like not paying that much attention in
college. It's interesting in the end of
the game, the fields in like, great condition.
I must have stopped raining, but like in for end of the first
half, it was a mess. Late second quarter.
Dude, that's how I. That was, the moment that I felt
when I was like, we are fully back in it, because there's that
feeling Happens before lock specifically with DFS where you
have something set and I was running out of Lance line up and
then you see the weather conditions and then you're like
I'm changing and then there were reports that it wasn't even that
bad. Then there was one that was
like, oh no, they got it all cleaned up from the start of the
game and then you're like, should I be back in on Lance?
I was like, God dammit by mind, being in a pretzel like 14
minutes before lock. This is this is what we play the
game for. I kind of I didn't put that much
like I basically kind of Play. What I wanted to play.
I like, I did. I heard all week.
You aren't supposed to play hurts and I was like, I'm just
playing hurts and AJ Bronx. That's what I want to do because
it what an alpha play by. Yeah.
Well. But it was one of those things
where it's like, I You needed like the nuts, right?
Like there was enough value to get to everything, so I don't
know. Okay.
I kept it real small, Italy to lineups.
Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a very hard hard week to win.
Unless you just like, completely, you needed to chalk
it up, and then be like, but I'll play Antonio Gibson and
Steelers D and then you win the Milli measure.
Basically, let's see here. I'm checking in.
Are we starting Joe on? I mean, probably in some leagues
if kittel bones us again, which it seems like is.
Yeah, there are a couple of weeks where we were legit.
I think. G-Unit was one of them.
That was a crank purple team. We like legit may need to
consider starting too long. Yeah, I'm gonna Elevate many
routes here. And this guy said, base, 32
rattle up in practice. That sucks.
George Mason tvp's live. Holy shit.
Hmm, no Brad. This is you want Pat to get
dragged Away by the FBI? I mean yeah we can't do that.
Let me just tell you, can I tell him?
It's not as good as it's not very good team actually.
It's a kind of a bummer team because it's got will Fuller.
It's got Roadshow it's like Mike.
It's my only Justin Ross here. You have coffee on my team so
it's not what if he's the guy you need in week 7 like your
whole bunch was zeros and your starting lineup was purse.
The lineups just like, everyone, that you wanted.
Yeah, no. I wouldn't read too much.
In this first week stuff, I saw saddleman had a line of up
there. It seems like incredibly noisy
from what I can tell. It's a little noisy.
I mean, less and less Fuller signs.
I've been, I'm like, well then yeah, what is going on?
Where in the world you need that whatever Joseph did I need
Fuller decide for citing would make my portfolio.
I got 120 percent but it took a lot of jobs to get home under
20%. Oh my God.
Yeah. I are we tomorrow will be
another interesting data point for the, for the Chiefs
backfield. I am excited to see that.
Do you think Rojo's and active again?
Yeah, yeah, girl just yeah. Almost certainly of you really
shocked. If not, if he's not like whoa.
Whoa, let's put. Our offense was fantastic.
They all ran well independently, they'll play their roles.
Well, the kitten played his role.
Well, I just what, how would that that's got to be it?
Josh has seen the nff, see bids, we were extremely light in
those. I mean, we swapped out.
I we tried to swap out like David Bell.
Think we put in a little bit on Kyle Phillips.
A couple defense of stuff. Yeah, let's see.
No we didn't even do the defense because the only was in on
Dallas we've been on against Cincinnati or they're mine.
So we left our D. It looks like we didn't even
lose. David Bell and less that hasn't
gone. Booyah and which case I just
shared our beds. They might not bid until there.
Might be more like midnight. They'll think it presents?
He did. You want the exact lucky for
you? I don't have access to that
account. Yeah it's probably for the best.
It is a 10K legal process for a couple hours.
Oh no, it says There, it says you currently have no beds.
I think their books. Okay.
They promised they process. Yeah, they process process.
Mike is wondering, Pat is Joe on your rebound love.
Now that Raja will be an active, I think so, I've got the results
here. Yeah, Juwan Joe.
What are they graduate? We got D.
Andre Carter for David Bell for $1, which was like our third
option, we had a 38 dollar bid on Kyle films.
He went for 43. I think we had a dollar on
Dortch and he went for 24 Duvernay went for 128 Mason 1494
once and golf went for 89 and 55.
Not a lot of beds here at all. Everyone went really light.
Yeah. Only four beds over 50 bucks.
One of them, was golf. 455 only want the highest bidders that
128 on diverting. That was the only 100 dollar
bit. So everyone took a pretty
generic stuff feels pretty noisy to me.
I'm not buying it. I like that.
We took it pretty chill in all of our Leagues.
And then these guys that are, you know, big dogs also took a
chill in this league. Yeah stay chill.
Will see a show with waivers when you know when you need to
keep the pattern the cake got to keep the pattern the cake that I
keep in The Keg. What if so then you won't have
it for later, right? Cake chasing Hilliard went for
151 in a league. Yeah that's that's pretty penny.
That's pretty penny. Six, snaps Grant six routes he
had 18 percent of snaps so like 12 snaps.
He had 12 cents dude you know you're fucking percent of my
conversions. Yes.
Well that's about 12 steps plus or minus 1 exactly 12 steps.
Takeaways on these two backs, we have on our team with Sean res
Hall and etn. How did you guys feel about
their usage week? One did James Robinson looks
pretty good, so that's not ideal for etn, but etn was also what
he's missed in the endzone, someone I didn't see.
At Target. He was open wheel right up and
we'll route. Yeah.
And then he dropped the T Weasley dropped.
Holy shit, that he dropped that ball.
So that that was that was definitely frustrating.
All right. Yeah.
I mean, this was just a kick in the nuts.
Question, I guess. Because both these guys didn't
get great usage, but Hull, I'm pretty encouraged about Flacco.
Obviously they're not gonna throw 59 times again but he
threw 19 passes. The running backs.
Probably don't throw like 10 or 12.
Most weeks that he's a quarterback.
Paul ran enough route, they ran the same amount of routes Hall
and Carter better than I do. Year, which isn't that really
bullish? Yeah, I thought so too because I
thought it was going to be more a hall on early Downs.
Carter, on, passing Downs. Carter played more, but they ran
the same amount of routes. Which means if you look at it
from like a percentage of snaps type situation Hall was like the
passing down back, right? It's a higher percentage of his
routes were snaps were routes. He catches six ball gets ten
targets black was going to die mean.
He's gonna get like five, five targets, most weeks and Flacco's
in if he's running the same around this corner and they both
will be about and then it was also really exciting to you know
tie Johnson snaps no Tevin Coleman snaps it was a two-man
backfield entirely. So there was Elements of this
that we're fine for Hall, 16 percent Target share, and its
debut. I mean, that's pretty awesome.
When you have passing down back there as well, that's not.
I thought he was going to be, like, early down Carter is going
to be. Yeah, you know, getting all
their season where I think this is pretty exciting for pre-salt,
man, seeing these Godwin shares, just such a, but he looks so
good before he got hurt even after the catch.
I was like, man, he looks fully back such a bummer.
Yeah, but he wasn't, he might not miss that much time, right?
I know, but it just like you start stacking those things.
And those hamstrings linger and, and he was just such a yeah.
You, I mean, he's still probably properly valued, you know, for
missing a few games where he was going, it's just you were
pulling a fast, one on the field, where we got him before
that, that hamstring, he was I'm annoyed by the atom suck out as
well because that was I think he was just mispriced all offseason
but now I love that. Frank says, I've cornered the
market on Greg, the torch torch, I love that.
This is a week where there wasn't a lot of reason to go
big, but like Pat was like, I'm gonna get you one Johnson and
every League friends that I want to get Greg torsion everything.
It was a week to be like, this is a guy really liked, and I
want to just get him in every single day, I want to pay.
Yeah, I'm not going to pay more than $25 in any league and I'm
gonna try to average like nine. I kind of love that like might
as well. Like, find a guy that you're,
you know, kind of believe in not believing in and get him on
every roster. And, you know, if you're right,
you're right, that's pretty great.
Yeah. Yeah.
Sam says, got to say, it's great to hear y'all talking about
actual usage. And what it means football man
does footballs back, I don't know.
I like drafting, we talked about since 1821 sets, you know, the
last two weeks earlier than ever this year.
We needed more data probably by about the end of June.
We were Ready for some, for some foul.
Yeah, we we beat the dead horse one.
There were so many new offenses that I don't even know if one
week was in the. I need a second week and a third
week, man. I need, I need more data.
Yeah. Well, I'm excited.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have we do have a game tomorrow that one
should be good, 54 and a half point over under, but I did want
to plug so dropping tomorrow. You guys might have seen it on
the Twitter feed. Stat chasing is back.
We have two new co-host this year were very Psyched.
You guys probably recognize both of them.
Sam Sherman. Drafted a team with us, very
active in the ship chasing Discord and then of course,
Draco, last year's FPC best ball champ doing great stuff over at
Roto visit. Both of them are going to be
carrying the Baton that Pat started.
Two years ago. Sam hopin took care of last year
and we got a sneak peek at the charts and all that good stuff.
They recorded that in, the can will get that release tomorrow.
But super excited to have those guys doing statue acing this
year. I'm super excited to check it
out. Sam, had his charts that he
tweeted out. Check those out.
He tweeted about in a threaded. He's at Sherman, underscore ffb,
and we have retweeted them the, the counselor tweeted.
I'm so yeah. All those charts are awesome.
And then yeah I'm a I know it's going to be an awesome show.
So excited to listen to it every week.
Yeah. And that one.
So that will be out tomorrow you think going forward we've been
talking with them. I think they were going to try
to That out earlier in the week, but lots of chaos and craziness
will get on a, on a normal routine going forward.
Anything else caught on your guys's Minds.
Here are we are we drained and we need to live to see another
waiver wire. Show think this new light is
giving me a headache. So he'll take some Tylenol.
Honestly, that is gets a rig light.
Do you know what I'm dealing with over here?
Ben. This is this is what it looks
like without the lights. I mean, I don't know how you do
it. It looks great and awesome.
Is that your black? No.
Because I know what been saying, the light just blasting on you
for an hour. It's tough being in Show Biz
guy, ordered a crab Curry to got here, about 15 minutes into the
show because I kind of screwed up my dinner time line tonight.
So I'm definitely excited to eat that crab noodle Curry.
Okay. Well Pat has food getting cold.
We on future shows, we can do some of the battle royales.
We did on Club Top Shot. Last night, we did one of the
Hail Marys, which is the same format as Battle Royal.
They now have them for 12 teams. So you're getting seventy two
players. Drafted absolutely really
interesting. Wrinkle to it, is that those are
the one weak ones. Yeah, so just for what they're
doing, full season fastballs to, I kind of want to draft a few
of, those two should do it for those.
When do the resurrection ones, start those, they start after
week, for Garrett. They already started.
They have resident. Like one is, it one is the
what's week? 14 that format.
Oh when does it start? Good question.
I believe it's week five. Yeah.
After week for them. Yeah.
Oh, what's the same contest for the next three weeks?
I thought it was just this week's weeks.
Yeah, six through fourteen. So yeah, through the first five
weeks. Interesting.
So we can, we could draft one of those.
One of these weeks to here would be fun to do, but probably
closer to week. Six is like the obviously easy
thing to do, right? It goes back to the age-old
question of what what value do you pe get out of I think I
think in this case you want to Jeff calls.
You want to? Do you have?
Let me have any information. Seems like a massive Edge.
Yeah, and I will also say one of the things we were talking with
Sam and Draco about with stat chasing.
As they are going to try to be viewing things through some of
that lens. And I know this first one that
they recorded. They were talking about looking
at some of the resurrection atp's and stuff too.
So and Draco, specifically is in the weeds writing for Road of is
about the Battle Royale strategy.
So I think they're going to be able to have some really cool
insights To some of these these basketball games that are up
right now. And we also I don't want to, I
don't know if it's my name is to share but we're talking to Alex
that ffp. See.
He was talking about a neat little game format.
They're going to be putting out this year too.
So I don't know if that's fully announced yet but keep an eye
out for that. Going to be swimming in action
this season. Nice.
All right guys. Nice.
This is like a nice time of year, right?
I see. I have like still the
excitement, the energy for like, whatever you can throw at me.
Yeah exactly. 10 weeks from now maybe not I'm very just draft
AJ. Brown 101 let's get it on.
Let's go there you go. You there's no such thing as not
drafting AJ Brown regrets if you just take them one on one and it
just you're good, you're good. Alright guys, we are going to
live to see another day. Pat is going to go eat his
dinner. Ben is gonna go rest his eyes.
I am going to go look at all of our jajuan Johnson shares and
Roster bait will see you guys. Have a good one.