What in the world do we have here?
A non ADP chasing show on the ship chasing airwaves.
That's right, ship chasing back in the fold.
We're going to be coming to you guys more regularly here as the
NFL draft hits. We'll of course have our NFL
draft round one extravaganza show coming up in a couple of
Thursdays. But today we got myself, we got
Pat, we got Davis, we got Jacob. We're going to chop it up and
then we are going to do a draft relay style.
You guys guys might remember this format from last year.
Each of us, US is going to get 5 picks in a big board draft and
I'm sure chaos and judgment will ensue.
I'm Pete back in the fold with ship chasing.
Let's do it, Pat Fryer, Helmo. This is why.
This is why I'm hot. Anita Hanjob.
Fix your sight. Jamar Alpha play chase you.
Can't handle the heat. It looks like we're finally at
this point here, right? Oh, there's Pat.
I was like, where? There he is.
Now we are good to go.
Pat Carane, Jacob Sanderson, Davis Maddock.
You guys might know him as the Dynasty trio.
You might know them as ADP Chasing Sands, Mike Show.
But today they are ship chasers. Welcome back to the airwaves,
guys. Just less than 24 hours since
your last appearance. You know, people were worried
that this combination, what are they gonna talk about?
It's like, buddy, we could have done a cool 60 on Keaton
Mitchell last night. Like we could have started
getting into Keaton, Mitchell, Eastern Carolina stats like
there, there's no stopping us. We could have done 2 hours on
the Wars of Alexander the Great. We should.
Frankly, that should be our topic for next week.
I was I was actually impressed with you guys because typical
ADP chasing MO is you have the Alexander the Great tangent at
the top of the show and alienate all of the lizards.
You guys actually saved it for the end.
I was actually pretty. Impressed that it was.
Honestly, I'm a little disappointed in US.
Like that's not how we're supposed to do the show.
How did we not lead with the Battle of the Granicus?
You know what I'm saying? How did we not lead with that?
Usually our approach is very much like the indie band that
had an album that went too big and then they start the next
album with like a 12 minute long song that's just like smashing
cymbals repeatedly. That's kind of our usual Haiti P
chase. I I would say like.
We play it live too, instead of just like the hits that the
people are. There we we had our, you know,
our Newport Jazz Festival moment with Sam Sherman winning
$2,000,000 on the stream and the second-half of ADP chasing is
Bob Dylan's 1980s Christian albums.
Or it's just the the the purpose is alienation basically.
Dude, like people, people liked it, people learned.
Like, dude, there's the element now of you guys are like, I'm
pretty sure we've already talked about all of these players,
which is what happens when you start talking about them in
January. And then you're like, we've done
this Keaton Mitchell thing for four straight episodes, But that
is just the crowd yelling free bird.
They just want to hear you talk about Keaton Mitchell every
episode. True.
I like the the crowd yelling Free Bird is sort of built into
the core of the show because Zach puts together slides that
are sort of like recommendations for what we could talk about and
then we go like. Nah, Nah, you.
Have to watch us like literally decide not to talk about.
I Davis did end up mentioning it and I was glad he did because I
was screaming, you know, at the, you know, my podcast app as I
listened to last night's ADP chasing, you know, the Jamal
Charles Keaton Mitchell thing came from Sean and that was what
he like floored us with that, with that comp.
So I am glad that you got around to explaining and where a lot of
that early enthusiasm came from. Yes, it it became a bit on my
channel last year where myself and the commenters would try and
become more and more effusive in our praise for Keaton Mitchell.
You know, like quoting the his rookie year, he led the entire
NFL and rushing yards over expectation, not per carry, just
the entire NFL and rushing yards over expectation.
And you know, just sort of who's the guy that just Chuck Norris
jokes, right? But for Keaton Mitchell?
Mostly like mildly sure that's not true that he did that.
No, it it is. It really is.
You got the Alexander the Great Nuggets, all of this.
That's really the wet blanket. Well, Pat tried to diminish the
accomplishments of Alexander the Great.
He said it was a short run and he said it it wasn't pretty
strong for Davis to like. In his mind he was like this
would be a negative association for Davis Maddock to be
associated with Alexander the Great.
Like I correct, no no disrespect to Davis, but I think we should
all be so lucky to be compared to a guy guy who is.
I just wanted to know what season a great.
What season are we getting from Alexander the Great?
Cuz the guy died at 32. That's a sharp decline.
Probably he was a running back. Pat needs like an 800 year, you
know, Chinese dynasty esque run to be impressed.
Yeah, that's right. The other thing from the show
that I actually wanted to, to add a little personal anecdote
of my own, of course, the Rossini in Vrabel stuff, because
I had a story from this was right before the Rams Bengal
Super Bowl. So I think that was 2022,
beginning of 2022. Vrabel's head coach of the
Titans. I'm out in LA with Underdog.
You know, they were, We're filming some content before that
Super Bowl. We go out to dinner.
Vrabel is there at the table with some of his boys, right
next to us shooting the shit. About halfway through the
dinner, Diana Rossini walks in. All of them get up.
Rabel gives her a really big hug.
She sits down at the table with the boys, very jovial.
Even at the time, I, like, was talking to the people with us.
I was like, you know, I know reporters.
She was at ESPN at the time. I'm like, I know reporters have
relationship with coaches and stuff, but it was very friendly.
I mean, they're throwing back drinks like, you know, kind of
arming each other, nudging each other.
This was. Five years ago.
So you know, I think we all agree they were fucking per
Jacob's point. Like this relationship is oven
for a long. Time.
Oh wow. Well, I mean that like the that
hotel is known for like honeymoons and, you know,
anniversaries. Like and six unseen friends. 6
just out of frame, smiling and laughing.
Friends are just out of frame. It's not like they this isn't
like a motel style affair, if that is indeed what it is.
So to your point, Pete, like this, this has really got, you
know, there's some history here. This isn't like an Alexander the
Great level. That's what I'm saying, man.
Yeah, people, people love. I love how too.
That was like the most ADP chasing thing ever.
I learned about the news via the ADP Chasing production chat
where we're like. Zach spin up slides for.
That's how I learned about. Right.
Now I read about it like right before we went on.
Zach, poor Zach, you know, has a family, he has a job, you know,
juggling all of these things. You're like, I don't care about
your kids bedtime. Get us of Rayvelin Rossini
hugging picture right? Like, I don't know what our ADP
chasing the core content is and wild speculation on a reporter
and a coach potentially having sexual relations.
It couldn't be more in the ADP chasing wheelhouse.
That's that's what we're here for as a program.
What has there? Has Rossini made a comment yet?
I haven't. I didn't turn Nodis on.
To find they all made comments, they basically just said like
this was a friendly interaction between, you know, colleagues.
I don't know why people are reading into this.
The Athletics commented that there's nothing to.
Who would who would read into something like this?
Yeah, unfortunately, like they're, I mean, probably more
so Rossini, which is the sad thing, but she's like, you know,
online for her job. But like, I mean, her mentions
and comments for forever now are just gonna be absolutely brutal.
Yeah, completely cooked, yeah. Well, it's, it's also been,
that's been the case for like 10 years because of the Misses
Scott McLaughlin allegations. I don't know if I'm familiar
with this. Well, I feel bad now, but I mean
I don't know Diana Racine personally, but like it was
heavily implied by a source very close to former Washington then,
not Commanders general manager Scott McLaughlin that he and
Diana Rossini were in a sexual relationship while he was the
general manager of. The team, well, there's another
tweet going around today about her that it was actually it was
about McVeigh and that Britt McHenry and Diana Rossini got in
a fistfight outside of a bar in DC.
About Diana Rossini's like, kind of awesome.
Like what is her life I. Think it really exciting people
now? Well, there's all this crazy
stuff going. There's all this wild stuff
going around. People are digging up her old
tweets and there's this tweet of her being like, talking about
someone else being like, you know, if I was married to
someone super hot, I'd post them all the time too.
Crazy, crazy. This sounds like a character.
From she specifically says my husband is average so I'm not an
over poster. Dude, that is.
I mean, that's pretty. Bad.
That would be that would be the end of a lot of marriages if if.
You have Real Housewives of ESPN.
Can we? Is that a thing?
I feel like it could be a thing now I'd.
I'd watch that for. BI think it Yeah, this is like a
potential superstar. Get get them.
Get Mina and crew gabbing about Davis Maddock and his hot takes
on X. Do you think that could?
That's a yeah. I was just sitting around the
pool talking about these idiots who think the NFL can't develop
quarterbacks. I love that just like Mina and
Kay Adams just talking shit about Davis Madden in like a in
a. Would do.
That would do numbies. That show would do.
Numbies. Like a AA1, a 92nd clip of Mina
Kimes and Kay Adams roasting one of my tweets would go like
triple platinum on on X the everything out.
It really would. But Davis, you said yesterday on
the swell cast that you're kind of a reformed individual when it
comes to rage bait on Twitter that you are you're sitting some
things out these days not. Like I save it.
I save it for the show. I've learned it.
I've. Learned it.
You are saving it for the show. I mean, I believe that.
By the way, Speaking of Keaton, Mitchell did not lead the NFL in
brush yards over expected in his.
Well, blame the person that blamed the.
Person that he was Fourth. 4th is pretty good.
And he was first cause of cause I've what I had in when you said
not in rush yards that were expected per attempt, but
overall I was like, I'm 100% sure that it is rush yards that
were expected. Yeah, and that and he did.
Pat, do you have like an AID? Seriously.
Not literally. Thank you.
Thank you, Jacob. You've solved it.
That is literally the way to take me is take me seriously,
but understand you will get lied to a little bit, a little bit.
You the other part of the Keaton Mitchell lore on the channel is
remember when Gretch was like, you gotta pull up this clip of
him in the preseason just like yeah, yeah, getting east to West
making. And then he was like, no, wait,
no, that's not the clip. Then nothing happened in the
clip and we were just like he was trying to get us so psyched
on 18th round flyer Keaton Mitchell and that clip.
Was he he I? Was ready to be psyched but the
clip did not really live up to the to the hype there.
Yeah, I, I did on basketball breakfast on Monday.
I did it with Jacob two weeks ago.
We were talking about 0 RB being so hard.
And so I, I tried it on Monday and it's bad.
It's bad. I do feel like it's possible,
like everyone who's like 0R BS dead.
You can't, it can't be done. I mean, if you get the pocket of
the I forced it, but I think there's spots on the draft board
in certain draft rooms where you can you can pull it off.
It's you can pull it off. I'm doing some 0 running back
drafts to be clear, like I've done like five straight wide
receivers. You get, you get maybe like a
Herald fan and you get the quarterbacks like I've pushed
running back. It is just, it gets hairy.
You know, you're like, I really need Jonathan Brooks.
I really need like, you know, I need Aaron Jones to stay
healthy, healthier than he's ever stayed.
There's I'll take sometimes I'll take both Washington backs.
Oh yeah, this. This is the thing I'll I'll take
both Minnesota guys. I'll take both Titans guys too.
Both. I don't think I've done that,
but that I guess that's a doable.
Thing with with the. Spectrum of Love Jeremiah Love.
I don't, I don't actually mind it because I think Pollard is an
OK pick either way. The only thing that that it
would be really bad is if the Titans draft Love and keep
Pollard, but I don't think that's going to happen.
I think that if they draft Love, they cut Pollard and then
Pollard is probably like a OK pick somewhere else and then
Spears is being drafted like he's a totally useless backup
anyway. So if he's, you know, going to
pick 190 with Jeremiah Love there, that's totally fine.
It's fine in, in a vacuum, but if the issue is you do end up
where you're like, I need these guys like I need someone.
I took Jonah Coleman on one of these teams cuz I was like,
yeah, it's probably not gonna happen, but it could happen.
And it would really help this team if it did happen.
But yeah, it's it's definitely tricky.
Nick Singleton is a staple on those.
Teams. Yeah, Nick Singleton is an
article. Sometimes we'll take both Penn
State guys because I'm like, if one is good, the other might be
good too. I like that.
No, that's good. That's a good operational theory
because we learn about this like if T Tron comes in is a really
good, we're like actually okay, single thing is better than we
thought. Yep, exactly.
And the difficulty is just compounded by the strengths of
this draft class. You know, like last year, if you
did this, you had a lot of fun rookie running back darts to to
throw late in the draft. If you were doing this This
year, all the fun darts are those round two wide receivers.
And I know Jacob doesn't think it's as fun as maybe the rest of
us do. It's.
Fun and best ball. It's fun and best ball, yeah.
You're on board, but you're going against stream at both
junctures of the draft where you're taking you're you're then
having to pass up on all the fun wide receiver to take like true
dust ball running backs, I mean. I just did, AI just went for a
walk before we did this and I drafted a fast big board and I
took 4 running backs through 5 and I'm not gonna lie, I felt
great, like the whole the whole letter.
Was. Pretty good.
The draft felt so comfortable just flipping away from the
running back tab. There was like never a point for
the rest of the draft that I was hoping I could take a running
back, but I felt like I overstuffed myself at the dinner
table. Like I was.
I was just lapping up all the dessert I'd saved room for the
whole way down the line. And The funny thing is like, if
I, if I do GO-0 running back and like as far as what The Sims
want, like they're going, I go with the receiver firepower.
I often don't have like a ton of running backs.
I might have 6, but it's like, it's like, hey, like here's the
thing, your running backs suck and they're gonna suck no matter
what we do. So what if we just like lapped
everyone at tight end and quarterback and receiver, you
know, like maybe one of these dudes, like it would be amazing
if one of these guys hit. But like, instead of just like
chasing good money after bad, let's let's just like build up a
huge lead at the other three positions.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, Ben's saying a lot of
late rookie darts last year and how many panned out.
I mean, we we have this same song and dance every year with
that. I mean, like if you if you hit 1
rookie league winner from that back half, you know, a couple
years ago it was a Bucky. You guys can come up with better
examples than me, I'm sure. But I mean, there were.
There were plenty. Of guys, there were plenty of
guys last year who contributed as late rookie picks.
From the running backs, yeah, kind of thing.
Dowdle Yeah, I'm talking rookies, I was saying.
Like Scataboo. Scataboo was what?
Scataboo was a 9th rounder. Scataboo when you drafted
Quinchon Judkins? Yeah, that's.
Judkins was huge. JCM did have that one week, you
know. Yeah.
I mean. JCM.
JCM No, no, no, no, no, no. If you got JCM in the last
rounds, that's the three for what?
He was the running back 3IN week 17, Marty.
Marks like never now you got a ceiling other than like a guy
with a nine guy was a nice one, yeah.
To me though, The thing is like. Duncans was huge if you got him.
Go look at like if you compare the teams in the big board
finals last year to the teams in the BBM finals, the number of
zeros on the big board finals teams compared to the BBM, it's
massive. Like you are mining for hits in
the big board. Like the Whiffs aren't as big of
a deal in the big board because everybody well it.
Is and it isn't. I mean, if you show up with to
the finals and your team is completely 0 free, like you
have, like the big board was not as much of A sweat in the final
like you have, there's more you have more equity of showing it
to the final nutted where it's like very hard to do that in
BBM. So, you know, I think that, but
that's like a that's an argument for taking running backs early,
to be honest, because, yeah, it's these running backs.
Like if you think about the guys that are most likely to just be
straight up zeros, like, I don't know if Chris Brazil's any good,
but like he's probably not going to be a straight up 0.
You know, he he'll probably be running some routes down the
stretch. And and there's a number of wide
receivers like that, that if you want to go the rookie route
there and like you, there's, there's veteran guys who like
still have jobs like if you need wide receiver depth, like I know
none of us like drafting like Calvin Ridley, but he's gonna be
I've received. The market on Calvin Ridley,
Yes. Really.
Wow, that doesn't strike me. He's a Jake Pass.
Rick, look, I I'm trying to learn and grow and change.
All right, I say we, I say we hop in a draft here.
I just got, I got the wheel loaded here with our names each
on it five times. Davis, Has the big board failed
yet? That has to be imminent right
now, right? No, it's like 98.
Percent 97.6 when I entered the 1:00 this morning.
I I just fired. Yeah, I need.
I have 8:00 at that time I'm gonna be.
I just entered I just entered the rest of mine as slows just
cuz I was like I don't want to miss.
OK. It's 97.7.
I think I'm gonna just I'm gonna multi table and he wants to
drive with me after ship chasing.
I'm on a multi table, 8 big boards, so I'll be in there.
You can't. You're not going to be able to
talk to me about what I did because I'm not going to
necessarily be watching each one of these like a hawk, but I'll
be an 8 simultaneously. Actually, let me get the window
so we can see the the spinner here as well.
So we have the 15, which is actually pretty good for this
exercise. So we're not quite on our on our
toes for every pick. Here's the wheel.
All of us on here five times. I've shuffled it a few times.
This does theoretically mean random chance.
You could pick five times in a row, but hopefully not.
But it does look like your boy is gonna be batting lead off
here for us, OK? All right, get us on base,
buddy. It's not the the most autopilot,
I guess. 102 You take whatever running backs left from the
five. You take whatever ride you're
Caesar's. You you went scuba diving
underwater. Yeah, you screwed that and then?
It might be it might be stream yard, but.
It might be this. Now you're on stream yard, OK,
correct. Yeah, yeah, or on wheel of
names, I should say. But yes.
Do you, do you guys do anything different at 105 other than
whichever wide receivers there? No, I take the running back
sometimes just just because I would prefer to be building
through running back. So I want to be like 6%.
So I'll probably take JSN 3 out of every four times, and one out
of every four times I take a running back.
I take JSN every time I start mixing and matching it at six.
Yes. Are you guys?
So you're still taking the biter?
Take JSN. Over JSN I'm.
Taking I am butter, I'm taking the butter all.
Right. Yeah.
Why not? I was somewhat swayed for the
for the I've been mixing in the running backs.
I was swayed by the the tout guy who made fun of my main Senate
race tweets who was dude talking about JSM.
Max has one of my favorite submissions and that was such a
little subtle. Dig He.
That was that was a hilarious. That's like what a remarkably
niche dig to to come at me for my for my tweets with the main
Senate. Race.
There are a lot of niche references throughout those
videos, which makes sense considering our audiences.
Yeah, shocked to hear that. All right, Jacob is gonna pick
for us in round two. We do start JSN.
From I thought that just said Korean.
No, that's a Jacob, Yeah.
Yeah, it was Jacob. I promise.
All right. It's on.
That's on my name to start. But all right, Jacob, talk us
through what you thinking about here mid second.
I mean, in a perfect world I'd take a Round 2 running back, but
I don't think there's gonna be one that I like, so I'm probably
looking at the tight end position, most likely this one.
Not a Derrick Henry or Chase Brown HN guy.
Well, Henry's gone. I mean, if HN makes it all the
way. I have HN ranked later than
this, but I haven't taken them all year, so honey's gone
anyway, so I would be. I'm going with Brock Bowers
here. Yeah, shocking all.
Right here we go, JSN Brock Bowers.
Some things never change on the the ship chasing.
I was gonna say, it's just like, wow, it's like riding a bike.
We are playing three birds here on the.
Program I love you talking about like you just can't.
You have to take running backs early anyway.
JSN Brock Bowers and receiver in the third round I think.
All right, let's. A third round.
The third round is gonna end up being one of the dusty guys.
We'll see. Jacob's gonna get to double tap.
Here. All right, well, I know where
I'm going with this pick. Well, I so I this is a spot
where this is like my greatest amount of capitulation to the
boomers. I'm like, you know, if just
structurally I have to take Josh Jacobs here, whatever.
I'll take some Josh Jacobs here, but I don't think you have to go
like I like, you know, if you get Rice here, if you get A.J.
Brown here, I'm happy to take those guys.
So the the issue though is, is that those running backs at the
four or five turn, those are like some of the worst picks.
It like it, just like it hurts to.
Take tribute on your fall a little more like I'd love to
have Bucky as a late Yep. All right.
Well, I'm taking a member of the New York Jets here.
I. Just yeah, I figured that's who
we were. Again, I'm happy.
I'm happy with that. Who's that?
Omar Cooper, junior. All right, Reese Hall, let's go.
Over A.J. Brown, huh?
Yeah. Structural reasons bro.
Sometimes you got it for. You #structural reasons.
Think about all of the things Mike Vrabel has whispered in
Diana's ear about A.J. Brown.
We're only talking about Mike Vrabel and Diana Versini for
Structural. Look, I mean, This is why I, I
mean, there's, there's an alternate version of this draft
where we take say, Christian McCaffrey at 5 and A.J.
Brown at three. Do we like that better or worse?
No, I like this. I like this permutation better
personally. Pat Pat wants A.J.
Brown so he could play his own free bird of.
Setting Yeah, that's right. I would I would just take JS and
A.J. Brown and then figure out
running back which I you know, it's, it's tough, but you can
you can. I like 10 minutes ago.
It's a great year to figure out running.
Back Well, I like the round four or five like that's I'm I'm more
comfortable taking my medicine there, I think than you are.
I I like see, like Henderson, I don't like Tootin I'll take, but
obviously like I understand that's wrapped in my own.
No, Tooten's a good pick. I I mean.
Yes, I agree with you. Tooten it cost I I like
Montgomery but not as my RB one in a perfect world.
Correct. I like Montgomery all.
Right, let's spin here, see who's going to pick for us.
In the fourth round we have JSN Brock Bauer's Bruce Hall.
I had a setting on the wheel where a long howl was played
after winter, so I removed that in hopes of fixing.
The odds, all right, Sam, Howl all.
Right parade is up here in the No in the fifth round. 3 picks
Pat was. Knocking my running back pick
and all I did was was get us positional versatility to let
him do whatever he wants in round four.
And now, now isn't he grateful? I'm not grateful, and I'm gonna
take Kyron Williams just to stick it to you.
Oh God, come on, someone take Kyron Williams.
Yeah, Pirate's still on the board here.
Bucky's. Way after AP.
It must be a ship chasing draft if these guys look at the top of
the board. You will not see this at any
other big board draft room. 44 picks of green in the middle.
Of the road. Bucky's.
I mean. Bucky here.
Wow, Javonte. Hey, it's not your pick, Jacob.
That's not how this works. I think I'm going to go Javonte
Williams. Over Bucky, this is really.
Setting this is really really, really, really really setting up
for me to play the hits with like the final five picks, which
is really nice. If if this is the Canary in the
coal mine for main event season, I am scared.
I just, I'm like, I'm worried about Bucky, man.
He's got he's got a guy who can do the goal line role really
well and is like pretty good. Who did the goal line role when
he was teammates with Bucky Irving last year?
With this and then Gainwell, I think can play, so it makes me
nervous. Gainwell Gainwell's gone.
Well, I would like to take the keys away from Karain, but the
randomizer gods are going to keep letting him drive.
Yeah, you know the picks so. Far.
No, I picked Oh yeah, Davis is getting iced out here.
Yeah, that's fine, though, because Davis can just do bits
in the whole second-half of the draft.
Yeah, we're going to have this team save make.
Sure you're worthy, Matthew Gum Zachariah Branch.
Come on down. Because once we get into the one
40s, Dave is gonna be eye and a running back and won't stop
talking. In 40s buddy, I think you know,
like round 11, the siren song round. 11 Jada not.
Okay. You're big.
All right, Korain, you are going to be back up here at 55.
We got Breece Hall and Javante at running back, Brock Bauer's
at tight end and JSN at wide receiver.
Devante, Adams, Lamar, DJ Moore, roam by ADP here.
Chad already calling for a Keaton Mitchell ass team.
You'll hope to see it. That's why I'm, that's why I'm
trying to get us draft running backs.
We're all we'll be all full off. That's really being quiet, like
not tipping off any of his intentions here.
I'll take David Montgomery. OK, look at this.
This is a sidekick draft here running.
Back, can I ask if there was any thought to Lamar Jackson there?
Yeah. I mean, I like Lamar.
I've actually been wondering if I maybe should take some more
Lamar. So I'm glad you brought that up.
The thing is like quarterback is just there's if you take the
running back, especially you end up in this pocket later where
it's like it's time, hey, hey everyone, quarterbacks are
ready. Come get your quarterbacks, you
know, and there's nothing else to draft.
So you just draft your quarterbacks.
So it is I haven't been taking a ton of Lamar when I can get what
if I like need one of the running backs.
If you know when the alternate version of this team where we
have McCaffrey, I probably would be more thinking about about the
quarterback. I, I brought it up because I, I
think it's close and I've had the Monty versus Lamar choice a
few times. And when I was on Pete's stream
last week, we were in the exact same spot.
We had a 211 and we took Monty. And then I think a few rounds
later we were like, actually, we probably should have taken
Lamar, but that's just how it, how it goes sometimes.
And I've had plenty where I'm, I'm glad that I take Monty
because yeah, I really like the 6-7 quarterbacks like the
Jayden, Caleb May. That's like a Group I I've been
clicking a ton of hurts. And.
It really is room to room sensitive because both the
quarterback and running back rooms can be very punishing.
And so it's just you hope you guess right on which one has
more value at that fifth round juncture.
I have a hard time taking Lamar. Like I understand in a vacuum
it's really strong. I just have a hard time taking
him cuz I'm like, this might be my last chance to get a running
back. This might be my last chance to
get a running back who's gonna score 11 points per game.
Pee back up. So we're gonna be 222 and none
for for David Wiener. This is this is so beautiful.
Yeah, Davis is getting iced out big time here.
Definitely feel like we need a wide receiver here.
Nothing speaking to me at quarterback, even though we
could do kind of some kind of back stack.
But I'm not gonna give Pat the satisfaction of a naked Drake
May pick when he's not burning one of his five selections.
Which basically funnels me to Jordan Tyson here, and I know
there's some concern. But I'm I'm gonna grab.
No, that's why I was really. Yeah, I'm not.
I feel like I just got an extra pick in the draft here, seeing
Tyson come in. Let's go.
Yeah. Let me let me get the the bear
from from Davis. No, I said I'm not, I'm not
concerned. I I Tyson, Tyson, Lemon and
actually less Tate now, but Lemon and Tyson like on on
DraftKings. My default ranks have Tyson 15
spots ahead of ADP. So I just take him all the time
'cause AD PS like 85 there. I just I can't all of the IT
just this sucks. This is a round 7.
Sucks. Hey, now's your time to shine.
There's a lot of Davis picks coming up.
This is, you know, you're counting cards.
Except this. This is a window.
This is a window with no Davis picks.
This window sucks. You make your own window,
brother. You've been doing it your whole
life. You you create the window as big
as you want, just like Alexander the Great.
I think my. You think Alexander the Great
went into a battle and said this is the one I can't win?
No, he led his army to victory. I mean it's.
Probably you can't. You can't take over the Akimated
dynasty without picking a round seven player in best ball,
right? Sometimes Michael Wilson is the
weapon needed to win the war. You never.
Know yeah, everyone has to pick one.
Is I think, I think the window of wide receivers is way better
at our next pick. Like I think these guys project
the same as the hundred overall. Like who's going to score?
Like isn't Michael Pittman junior just going to score more
points than Metcalf? It could happen for sure.
Yeah, give me, give me, give me, give me a reminder.
OK. This is he's like, he's like the
line for me at running back where after that you're you're
you're guessing. Folks, ship chasing is back and
we picked Javonte Williams, David Montgomery and Ramondre
Stevenson. We we have like I think the.
New year on the program we. Fully capitulated like we like,
like the the $10 dynasty team drafters have capitulated.
I don't think we have. We have.
We just, we just took Honda Williams.
Of running backs in our last. Yeah, we we've capitulated.
Well, I wouldn't have taken Remandre.
What's wrong with? Isn't isn't DK Metcalf the the
ramandre of wide receiver picks there?
And we need a wide receiver more.
He he is the my issue is Metcalf is like the worst possible
stylistic fit for Rogers at this stage of his career.
He is an imprecise route runner who does not improvise well.
Meanwhile, Michael Pittman Junior is like the improv, like
the improviser, the the six yard A dot guy you'd want to have at
this stage of your career. You just took from Andre
Stevenson in the comments are asking where's Gretsch?
They they want to return back to the old program.
Davis, you're going to get us fired.
Yeah. Not ADP board yellow I am.
I am not educated at cap bro all.
Right, someone's going to be on the clock quickly here.
All right, we need to look like. We need to be Jacob.
Yeah, OK, Jacob. All right.
Indecisive Trevor Lawrence. OK, unstack, you have a little
bit of time. Unstack that's fine.
We got that's that's fine. We got we got a a couple people.
I like coming in late. There is, there is a better,
there's a better unstacked quarterback available.
There's a better there's. Not.
Yes there is. Yes, there is.
I'm I'm quite fine setting up a certain stacking partner in the
late rounds. Of I'm good, I'm good with his,
I'm good with his Adidas commercial friend.
I just think there's a better quarterback pick.
Are you going to read? Those who think it would have
been in. Case we can.
I mean, the sidekick agrees with me.
It's one Mr. Patrick Mahomes. We we've had this discussion.
I'm not on Mahomes this year. That's a that's a big
disagreement. I, I think, I think, you know,
in the end, at the end of time, one of us will be proven
correct. And I don't have, I don't think
there's much suspense as to who it's going to be.
One of us is Alexander and one of us is Darius.
The. Third, one of us is Darius the
Great and one of us is Alexander.
No, no, Darius the Great didn't lose because he that's why he
was the great. Darius the third was the one
that lost Alexander and. It's also just over here.
It I, I, I listened to a little bit of Hardcore History this
morning just to refresh myself. It is.
It's Darius. Oh, Darius.
Come on. Oh, and I think he was the
great. So he lost, but he's still the
great. Well, he was the great for a
long time. Yeah, not long enough.
If I, if I. Was you showed up for the second
in ancient Persa and were like Darius what's up bro They'd be
like what the fuck? Are you saying what the fuck are
you you're? Pronouncing it right.
Darius. If I was Darius, the first or
second and the third one who lost gets to be the great, I
would be so pissed. I don't know what the afterlife.
Is but it's tough scene. That's a tough.
Yeah, Pete, Pete's with me. Pete's.
No, I'm not. I just we just need a wide
receiver. Pete, tell me about Michael
Pittman. Would you?
Would you call him the improviser in the league?
Would you? Call him the.
Improviser. Yeah, I to me he's like a way
better stylistic fit with Rogers.
I mean, isn't he gonna outscore Metcalf straight up?
Let me, let me put it this way, let me put it this way.
If I said that take that Michael Pittman junior could outscore DK
Metcalf. It's close enough that
Sacrilegious would not immediately try and find me a
discord and then get me to book a bet on it.
Like it's it's close. It's close enough that Zach
would not immediately try and angle shoot me and get me to bet
on it. Oh.
Man. Which means that it's close
enough, Davis. Actually that I mean, maybe you
already just you mentioning Discord and maybe you already
know, but one member from your Discord has submitted to the
competition but has refused to reveal their face and wore a
very terrifying mask in their submission video.
Do you know who who that is? Can you guess?
I assume it is TWAN but I don't know, no.
Loaf, right? No.
I don't think I don't think loaf exact.
David. Mr. Loaf.
I don't think Mr. Loaf is in my discord.
Mr. I just heard terrifying mask that I had to assume it was Mr.
Loaf. Wait, Oh, oh, Kevin.
Yeah. Kevin is a character, man.
Dude, Kevin. Kevin is a character.
It is like not just a balaclava, this is like I am robbing that
bank kind of mask. Wow all.
Right, we need to spend God, please let it be me.
Please let let's just let's just get the anarchy in early.
Oh oh Crades back path. Path's back.
It's sort of this is like the The Crown, you know, if you want
it that badly, you probably shouldn't have it.
Let me see. Let me see my guy, my
quarterback in anyway. Yep, Chuck Willis Darnold with
JSN Crowd. Wide receiver.
Yeah, Downs, Coker, Golden Higgins, Shakur, McMillan,
Cooper Let. Me go downs.
Nice, there we go. There you go, I felt so safe.
And secure when when Pat's got the crown on his head there
with. Quick recap for the audio
listeners. Naked Trevor Lawrence.
Wanted. Breece Hall, Javante David
Montgomery, Ramondre Stevenson, Gretch shaking his first
somewhere, JSN, Jordan Tyson, Michael Pittman, Junior Josh
Downs and Brock Bowers at tight end here.
I have concerns about our quarterback situation.
And you're the only. One that could have been a lot
stronger there with 11 little 1B1.
Yeah, dreaming of Lamar Jackson. But that was that was Pat the
Great. Gosh.
Downs. Davis.
Davis it in. My guy already got taken.
Worthy who? Worthy.
Yeah, but this will be even better and more.
Tilting. I know where this is going.
This will be even better. Didn't you watch the post?
Didn't you watch the postseason? Or were you guys too busy being
mad at Caleb Williams to remember?
This game. Hey guys, someone take Matthew
Goldman. Don't do it.
But seriously, like we, we need to get quarterback pretty badly
if you waste the pick. Oh, I thought we took Chuck.
I literally thought we took. Chuck no, we we need a QB.
Too. Someone else did though.
Well, we have to take Mendoza. Yeah, take.
Take Darnold. Whatever.
Darnold. There we go.
Look at that. That is truly Davis, the third
Davis the Great. Actually, actually I was
listening to Hardcore History and it's pronounced Devise and.
Devise. It's Devias actually.
That would be. That would be my.
That would be. Devias the Great, yeah.
All right. We we now have two quarterbacks
here. What's a?
What's a better? Stack for two more.
We've got Rogers, we've got Jones, we got outs.
What is? What is a better stack?
Darnell JSN or Mendoza Bowers. Well, we we probably need at
least one more court like we're going to need Daniel Jones or
Rogers or Mendoza. Right what what is the you guys
mentioned it briefly last night with the cousin stuff, but what
do you think's a good over under on which week Mendoza starts?
Whenever they're by. 4 1/2. Yeah, Drake May. 4 1/2 May seems
good. Yeah.
He's probably. On the Drake May, the last time
that a number one overall pick didn't start from the jump was
2018. That was when Tyrod started over
Baker. Yep.
That lasted a game and a half. We.
We did this on my stream too. The 2 examples you can find in
the last decade are Mahomes in Love.
That's would anyone take the over?
No, Mahomes wasn't the 1st overall.
Oh. Oh, sorry, sorry.
I look for all the first round quarterbacks.
Right. I'm saying like literally one O
1. So Baker one O 1 started right
away but he he he started week 3.
Tyrod only lasted 2. Games Tyrod got hurt and then if
I remember correctly though. I think that's the Herbert 1
though. That's how we got.
Hurt. Well, that was the lung.
That was the lung piercing. I want to say Tyrod hurt his
shoulder that time. That's possible.
The one that lasted way longer was Jared Goff.
Didn't start until like week 9 or week 10.
I think it was Case Keenum who was the starter for the Rams
that year. That was 2016.
Sheesh. All right, Davis, you're picking
here in the 12 aren't? You picking or you're no David's
picking. They're just spun again.
All right guys, Do I, do I play free bird or do I make a good
pick? I would prefer a good pick.
Probably no. It's looking a good pick.
Do you guys want you guys want Mendoza or Dimes?
This is you, David. Your pick.
Yeah, I know. I'd like.
Hey, let's go. All right.
All hail Tobias. Well, this is what Jacob and I
were trying to do in our draft last Monday, and you're praying
Jones comes back around because then I guess in this case we
could grab Mendoza and it wouldn't have been as bad.
But man, it gets scary quick around this range.
You know what? I actually.
No one ever thinks of you as the responsible one, but you landed
the shit out of this plane. Yeah, you really did with the
Darnold and the. I, I gotta be, I gotta be
honest, when I'm drafting on my own, I for sure would have done
the irresponsible thing there and said Ty Simpson's fine here.
Aaron, when you were when you said it was gonna be an off the
rail pick, that was more off the rails than I thought.
Like, well, not, not Ty Simpson there, but just saying like I'm
taking Ty Simpson around 20 and letting it happen.
Well, when you get the stack with with downs, I, I, I do like
Jones there. I think, I think the Dimes, I
think we, I think there's been some historical re
categorization, re categorization of prior Daniel
Jones performances and I think that we are gonna.
How's wide receiver looking? Let's see here.
Pat's picking next in the 13th. Denzel Boston.
Shaheed with Darnold defensive back I'm told Travis Hunter guys
who don't Boston. 'S really fallen a bunch.
What about tight end? Tight end, we are looking at
Mark Andrews, Brenton Strange, Juwan Johnson Strange.
Yeah, strange is quite stackable.
Some good options here. Good options.
Yeah, we got three different stacking options here.
All right, give me Travis Hunter.
OK, Beautiful. There you go.
Need a wide receiver and we got. I've gotten like 9 picks in this
draft right? This is how I'm moving the chess
pieces. I force you to take Nick Nick
and Trevor Lawrence so I know I can get my extra pick later on.
And I know like it's not the most fun thing to take Devante
and Dave Montgomery and stuff, but like Travis Hunter has a ton
of upside. You know, like with talent based
upside at receiver that you're getting in the one 50s, that's
like, what talent based bet are you making at running back in
the one 50s? I mean, Keaton Mitchell went two
rounds ago, you know, like. Did he really?
Did we? Is that true?
Yeah. He won the 11, but you he.
Went Oh my God. 1102. Played the bits.
Oh, so I couldn't have even, I didn't even realize that I
that's why I was going to take over Darnold.
I was going to take Keaton then. You couldn't have.
You couldn't have even if you wanted to.
Wow yeah, this this team has slap written all over it.
Likely Gadsden. Yeah, I kind of like this team
actually. It's pretty good.
All right, getting down to the nitty gritty, I see Jacob with
two picks, Davis with two, I have two and Crane has one left.
All right, here we go, Davis. Put Jayden on.
Pretty even. Pretty even.
He made my top ten in my running back column.
Yeah, because you're finally getting woke, dude.
You're finally. Getting woke, I put him in RV 10
and I was like, he's going to be a UDFA.
But anyway, it's kind of interesting.
All right, talk us through it. Show me the the wide receiver
tab. Debo 80 Mitchell All right,
these guys. Are all cooked.
Show me the tight end tab. Hillsdale zone.
Isaac Tesla. All right.
Here's the one where I can tilt these guys to please take Eli
Stowers for me all. Right.
I'm fine with that. That is my that is my most
drafted player across. Basketball.
Contest. What kind of draft capital are
we hoping for him? 2nd.
Round early Second round. Yeah.
He could go late first though, I think.
I think it's possible. Do you think it's I was arguing
the other day that it that report about some team just
listing miss wide receiver is bullish and everyone told me it
wasn't but I think it's bullish. It's bullish.
I think it's not bullish. It's bull.
It's only bullish because right now you get his points at tight
end. It'll be it'll be bearish later.
I mean, I don't think he's ever gonna get listed as a wide
receiver because whatever team. Drafts you have to pay him more.
Has way more incentive to list him as a tight end, so I'm not
worried about that. I mean, I don't think it's
breaking any new information. We already know that he's one of
the worst blocking prospects. They're just not even gonna ask.
Whose pick is. This and it's just a matter.
Of Davis. Davis last pick, OK also
dreaming of Sundays says the running backroom wants you to
show ID to vote. The wide receiver tight end room
wants a 2% wealth tax. Never let him know where.
You're slapping from. Never ever let him know where
you're slapping from all. Right.
What are you thinking here? Dave is at 15 five.
Well, I want to leave my my thumbprint on this team, but
there's not really a good thumbprint pick here.
I mean, I see one, but I'm certainly not going to.
I'm not going to speak it into existence.
Well, I would take if I was like, if I was setting this up,
I would set this up to do 1 of Terrence Ferguson or Gunar Helm.
But it's not. We can wait.
And we have Bowers. Yeah, Gimme, Gimme Hillsdale's
College finest, please. Oh, you can do a lot of things
with 19 picks. Pete, can you?
Did you? Is that stuff about not needing
all of your picks to contribute? Yeah.
Is that, is that research based? OK, cuz is 19 enough?
Who scored more touchdowns last year, Garrett Wilson or Isaac
Tesla? See, this is where like this is
where you get iterations of Slappy cuz like, I'm injured.
Never in a million years am I thinking Isaac Teslaw ahead of
Calvin Ridley. Like I'm playing Calvin Ridley
every time. That scenario.
Every time I couldn't. I couldn't even conceive of
taking Teslaw for Ridley. Calvin Ridley is gonna score 6.7
fantasy points per game and then be waived mid season.
The only thing? The only reason he hasn't?
Been gave 6.7 buddy he's gonna hit. 6.7 He's not getting close.
The only reason Calvin Ridley has not been let go by the
Titans is he's already at the home for retired wide receivers.
If there was another viable alternative for him to go to,
he'd be gone. But he's already at the last
stop. He's already there.
Calvin's gonna have like 315 plus point weeks this year and
this team could use that and Tesla's.
An Isaac Tesla did that last year on like no targets.
Calvin Ridley is gonna have 14 weeks on the Bileoni model this
year. Yeah, that's 100%.
I'll totally, I'll totally give you this.
If you want to feel smart, you feel way smarter taking Calvin
Ridley. You definitely feel smarter.
I I'll guarantee that. Is Tesla gonna spike for eight
points like 5 times guys? Literally already spiked
already. It already happened is.
This your pick, Pete. It's my pick we're getting.
Oh yeah. Razzle dazzle, razzle.
Let's go. That's a fun one.
I think, I think I'm on, I think I'm on Davis's side of this
Tesla versus Ridley thing. I.
Mean. Yeah, because it's literally
obvious. Dude, Khalif Khalif Raymond is
gone. He's just a full time wide
receiver on a good offense. He you know what he is.
This is no different than like the Diami Brown bet people were
making last year. You're promoting when your lead
point is finally Khalif Raymond's out of the way and now
he could be on. Lead.
You know, guys, it it really reminds me of the pick last year
that people were making on this bad wide receiver who lost his
job early in the year. But I'm saying I think Tesla can
can be good. Like I knew Diami Brown was
going to be bad. Yeah, I don't know, maybe.
All right, Jacob, four more picks left.
You each have one. He's on the rookie deal.
That's that's second year. OK, what's our what's our team
situation right now? What do we have?
Yeah, 3. 4. 73472 Yeah. All right, so.
Fuck I there there is. There's a good brand pick here.
Oh, I know where I'm. I know where I'm going if.
Jordan James, rush off of your Last call selection.
That might be that might be him. Possibly no.
Nicholas Singleton. Let's go Yeah, the guy who
definitely won't be good, but like, what if he was?
What if he was? Yeah.
But we, we just, we just like, changed the entire makeup of the
political caucus of our running backroom with that pick.
It sure did. It's true, although it's
possible Nick Singleton might be like a young because he's big,
right? So he's just like a young
Republican of these of these running backs, right?
Like he probably won't even produce to like if he.
Didn't have a foot fracture, he would have ran like a 436.
Yeah, I agree his his wrath would have been quite high it.
Probably would have been quite high, yeah.
It is funny how every conversation that I listen to
about like prospecting this running back class and it it is
all like wearing beer goggles or grading it on a curve where it's
like this is awful and there's nothing about it.
But if we're just looking at these people here, this one
definitely looks a little better than the others.
Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Yeah, the chat wants to let Davis know that his his short
king. Hey, trust me, trust me, I know.
I know about my guy Greg Dorch. I'm pretty sure they signed him
to do punt returns. All right, I'm gonna have this
18th round pick and then either Pat.
Or Jake, you could really start a holy war if you took Kamani
Bidel here. I mean, the running back room is
Breece Hall, Javante Montgomery, Romandre in Singleton.
I don't. I mean, I guess we could take
another rookie. I don't know if there's anything
else we need here at Running back.
Man Bauer Stowers. Bauer Stowers, you feel you.
Feel really good about that. Yeah, I mean, Jacksonville's
cooked. Hey, actually, I'll, I'll toss
Tori Horton in the queue. I feel like with our Seattle
stuff, that's not bad. Banged up, which you don't love.
It's. Cooper Yeah, I'm just seeing
what other stacking stuff we're looking at.
Here there is there is a running back who kind of correlates with
the non Jonathan Taylor Colts team that I don't hate.
Amir Abdullah. Yeah, I'm gonna let you guys
solve the tight end mess. I was interested in Sarah a
little bit. I am just gonna grab Horton
though. Here.
Sure. Two more picks, 3582, and this
is where you guys can kind of have some fun of like do we need
the third tight end, 6th running back, one more wide receiver
dart? My my third tight end line is T
Ferg and then when he goes then I'm just like, well, whatever,
what's the point? Like what's Pat Fryermuth doing
for me? Is there a reason why Evan
Ingram is just like, completely undrafted this year?
Because he sucks. Yeah, he stinks.
I was, I was telling on on my screen the other day, like there
were slates. It was the conference
championship round where there's only four tight ends in the
entire pool. And he was like still somehow
going undrafted in some of those.
Like I mean they're just just the most dog shit fantasy player
of all time. What happened to the Joker?
I know. All right, So what do we need?
Yeah, 3. 3582 Pick. 3582, I think it's yeah, tight end is
you're looking at Tungus Parkinson, EO Dulcich.
So Dulcich breakout talk these days.
No, that is who I'm going to take though.
I'm. Going to just put him in the
queue real quick, anyone else? Oh my God, look at that hair.
Oh my God. Oh my God, it's so beautiful.
I finally know how you guys feel because normally I'm the one
clicking it and getting to like orchestrate the the thing and I
had the jump scare moment when Pat clicked I was like oh God,
what is happening? Right now that felt that was
great. I, I honestly, I don't feel bad
about most of my hot takes in history.
I honestly feel bad about being on the wrong side of history.
Dual search versus Alberto. Well, I mean, I mean, Dulcich
wasn't a hit like he was, but it's never, never wrong.
He probably should have hit though, just like weird
combination like that hamstring injury that wouldn't go away
like he probably should have hit.
That you're still spinning cerebodial ceremonial.
Oh. My God.
All right, Jacob, we have a 3583 here.
Dare I say just a lot of. Favorite bad people on both
sides? I mean, you guys have done such
a good job with this team, I felt like I could go in any
possible direction. Yeah.
Where where are you guys on Dalton show?
Cuz I he's like a guilty pleasure for me at the end of
the draft. Like cuz I can see like he he
kind of he he pops up sometimes as a decent pick, but I take him
more than than he's. Probably like The thing is, is
he's fading like Stowers, he's fading Max Claire, he's fading
he's. Fading, He's getting a job.
I don't think he's fading those guys.
I think he he would be ahead of those guys.
Stowers, I think would would be ahead of him.
Yeah, I'm such a Max Claire slappy that I.
Yeah, you really are. Which is just like the most
Jeremy Ruckert ass guy of all time.
But. Don't you think they'd be
investing in receiver more than tight end?
Also like a rookie tight end? These guys do nothing so often
and this is not a good class. Yeah, but on Miami?
Like I'm glad you said that because I'm I'm way lower on
this class of tight ends overall than than most.
It's not a good class of tight ends.
It's really good tight end class.
I'm like, actually just it's actually just all the other
tight end classes are good. OK, I got to make a pick here, I
guess. Yeah.
Yikes. What a what a group of
individuals we have here. I'm I'm going to trust that
we're good at Waters. Give me, give me Brennan
Thompson. Yeah, Hey, there we go.
Short King. He's.
Making me sweat. Oh my God dude, wow.
You know where Brennan Thompson transferred from?
I think I've heard that name. No, at the University of
Oklahoma talk. To me about I've been mixing him
in. He's he's really, really,
really, really fast. And I think he's gonna go day 2
and he's gonna have a really, really tiny draft rate on, on
the big board. So I've, I've mostly not been
taking him at all. I've been taking like Antonio
Williams. It's easy to take him on
Shipchasers. Credits.
Yeah, whatever, take him on, but but now I'm here on site
credits. So, you know, I, I've, he's been
like my, my last week of big boards 20th round pick.
I don't mind it. All right, here is the relay
squad. Trevor Lawrence, Sam Darnold,
Daniel Jones. Are running backs Breece Hall,
Javonte Williams, David Montgomery, Ramondre Stevenson,
Nicholas Singleton Wide receivers JSN Jordan, Tyson
Pittman Downs, Hunter Tesla Brazil Horton, Brennan Thompson,
Tight ends Brock Bowers, Eli Stowers, Greg Dolsich?
I would say there were some moments of tension, but for a
four leg relay race. I think we.
Pretty pretty cohesive team I. Was super cohesive team like
shocking Lukey. Shockingly cohesive brand
players. I let you guys, I let you guys
do that. I, I had two chances to fuck it
up and I just I, I, I took the path of least resistance.
We appreciate progress. What?
What was it? The golden selection over
Darnold? And then we end up.
With like, I would have literally Rogers, I don't think
we could have recovered. Yeah, well, no, we would have
taken Mendoza and it would have been fine.
Yeah. That's true.
Yeah, it wouldn't have been fine cuz like Daniel Jones is not
going to be good to begin the year and Mendoza probably won't
be starting for the first few. Games, when is Daniel, when are
we expecting Daniel Jones to be good?
Pat That's my concern. My concern is I'm I'm worried
about expecting. Him to be good enough by the end
of the year I. Don't know.
I don't know. Should we have handcuffed?
We only got 15 big boards in Pete.
I thought the same thing and I was like.
Like my God, what has your life been?
Like this is Pete's. Pete left and now for our two of
ship chasing, we will draft 135 big boards at the same time.
Pete, I dare you to. I dare you to slow Enter 135.
Oh my God, don't do, actually don't do that because I need to
get my agent. You're going.
To Pete would rather get put in ranks in auto draft.
I'd rather yeah I should 'cause I was gonna say I'd rather give
away $1300 on on Twitter than enter 135 slows.
Oh my. God.
Pete, I guess. I wanna as well adjust because I
haven't maxed yet, but I'm gonna finish it up later.
Don't have the thing where it's week 15 and you're like, I can
have fucking 35 more teams here. No, I get more joy of seeing if
I can have similar That number of finals and semifinals teams
is you on 110th of the volume. That's good.
Yeah, everyone gets about. Everyone gets about.
Everyone gets about 5 finals teams.
It doesn't matter how many teams you draft, you're gonna get
about 5 finals teams. Lesson in that and and I love
that. Davis says this.
But then also, it's like I will draft the most teams, anyone in
the entire industry. I just here's here's the thing
about life. This is a good thing for
everyone to learn. You are going to increase your
quotient in your life by increasing the surface area.
So I can I can increase the surface area of my best ball
luck by simply drafting more teams.
Do you know who else cared about service area?
Alexander the Great. I'm the Alexander Greater best
ball. He conquered the entire known
world. I conquered every draft in every
lobby. Do you have you made a pass
through too? I'm 33, I'm 33, all.
Right, good. I just when when someone's
shouting their Alexander that they are Alexander the Great,
you want them to not be 32 or younger.
It's a. Little bit, all right?
He. Yeah, but he died when he was 32
here. Yeah, yeah.
So Davis, real missed opportunity for you, Davis.
You could have been the Alexander the.
Great. I could, I really could have
been the Alexander the Great. So yeah, yeah, let's see if
there's any lessons here. He later died in 323 BC in
Babylon, the city which he had planned to make the capital of
his empire while on his return to Greece.
What's the, what's the metaphor there?
You die doing what you love. You die doing what?
You love making. That belong the capital.
You die right before you don't. Get well here.
Here's here if you If you really want to get down a historical
rabbit hole. There's a lot of conjecture that
Alexander might have been gay, but The thing is just that he
loved his best friend who was a man.
The correlation here would be me and Xavier worthy where I died
because I love Xavier worthy too much.
That's that's your. I think his.
I don't remember the guy's name. Yeah, it's, it's gonna be
somewhere. It's gonna be somewhere in here
is. It checks out.
There's a lot of YouTube commenters that have said you're
gay for Xavier Worthy. So I mean, all of that, it's
true. All the parallel truths are are
there. Have you seen have you seen some
of his workout clips? Davis, I do have I do have some
bad news hitting Twitter right now.
Or pictures of you and Xavier Worthy at the Ambiente Hotel.
The thing is, the thing that's sad is I'm probably frame
mogging him because he's so skinny.
He's. So skinny.
He's so skinny. Yeah, have you bumped into him
in KC? You have the infamous photo with
Kelsey. You need the Xavier worthy
photo. No, no.
I mean, I've, I've barely spent any time there since he has been
drafted. I wonder The thing is now is
there's this the the Chiefs and the Royals used to live downtown
like they'd live in these like nice high rises and stuff.
But there's this area of Kansas City called Prairie Village that
is like, really, really nice now.
And that's they all. They all live in like the burbs
now. OK.
Pete, did you get any, Did you get any submissions of just
people just talking about history?
Just. Touting some good.
There what? There's been a couple people
have positioned themselves like someone said that he's like, I'm
an artist and he's like, there's too many Bros in this space.
We need more. We need more artists and free
thinkers here. And I was like, touché, touché.
It's no like. In some ways we're Bros, but
like, I wouldn't really say we're the most masculine force.
I really, yes, I really wouldn't.
It's just like some people. Will be like the best ball Bros.
I'm like, I don't really think of us as like a paragon of
masculinity. But it's the same as this like
a. Bunch of glass.
It's nerds like going to the curve.
Yeah, nerds. I think for nerds we are Bros.
For nerds. For nerds or nerds, I would say
Broy. Nerds.
Yeah, Broy nerds. Yeah, like we're trying to be
something we're not. Right, 100%.
Yes. Yeah, that is a good question.
Are we there? We tell you about the coolest
bitch to take a baseball. Dude, you want to draft against
me? I got 8 more till I'm Max.
I'll be in there multitabling after the show.
I mean, I'll always think of the Pete spin around in the chair
being like and also my favorite targets.
It is crazy how much Pat just flipping around his hat, how
much that does change. It changes the whole thing.
It's just the whole thing. This is a different.
Time. Oh my God.
Wow. How would the backwards hat just
cuz he doesn't do it that. Much it takes him for.
Like 8 years dropped like 6 years.
I know. Get ready for the wildest
running back pitch in the whole basketball landscape now.
Yeah, that should be your thing on the leg up channel when
you're doing stuff, you should do the backward sat, ship
chasing forward hat, leg up channel, backward sat I.
Think I could. I've kind of could fool people.
I could spin up a new channel and pretend to be young, get the
college kids into baseball. Pat looks so out of place in a
hat like he when he wear because Pat will wear the ship chasing
flat build hat and like whatever he does it, I feel like he's
just like I don't want to do this but I got to promote the
program. Like he said, he's just doing it
as a service, but not because he actually wants to wear it.
If it's flat. Build dub hat Pete man.
Because it is true, like with the flat bill.
I, I, I do the, the brim bend, which is now old, you know,
that's like old, yeah, the annual bullshit, you know.
But I I'm I'm a vendor. Too, I mean I, I.
I look like. An actual moron if I do a flap
rim like. I don't this is yeah.
Like, look at how much of an absolute clown, like I can't
even yeah, that's now that's been bent for so years.
But like, I'm trying to like like this.
This is like not a good look for me.
I don't think you know what. It looks like the second you
make your hat look flat brimmed. I think your earbuds are like
big studs. Like earring studs in that year?
Wait, David or yeah, Jacob, can you, can you do the ear tuck?
Can you get flat and then tuck the?
Ears. Oh God, cuz I feel like I've
seen, I'm gonna get a different hat because this one is like 6
years old and it's been so big. But I'm gonna get my, I'm gonna
get a newer hat and then we'll, we'll really see what we can
cope with. Yeah.
I feel like you could go like full if you if you have any
flannels we could get going you could button up to the top.
This is why people spend so much time to be near trying to like
work on that because it is just a subtle shift, really changes
how you are perceived. I mean Pat, just throwing the
hat on backwards. It was a completely new
personality. It looks different to.
Me I have an issue what's? Going on with my whole vibe.
I have the issue where the because my hair is so big, the
dad hats just look a little strange.
I do. I mean, I wear these, but the
yeah, your tuck the the regular flat back looks regular flat
bill looks a lot better. All right, let's try the ear
tuck. Look, this can't be a good luck
for anyone. Yeah, it's still a little
better. I don't.
Think it goes low enough it's so I know what.
You mean though? I know what you mean.
Yeah, this might even be worse for the audio listeners than
Alexander the Great. Just suggesting our hats here.
Here. We go What about sideways?
How's this? Yeah, there was a moment in time
most wanted. Yeah, there was a moment in
time. Well.
I can't like my pants down to my ankles.
I actually feel like I. Need to go backwards to like
balance out the Jacob sideways that's.
Yeah. I said, my homies, you just got
poned. Pat, are you going on Davis is
like, I've had enough. We've lost Davis.
Pat, are you? You're on vacation next week,
right? I'm on vacation next week, yeah.
Are you going? With the whole thing with
Hawaii, just. You and.
Brittany Yeah. OK.
No, my, my parents are coming out.
They'll be here tomorrow and then we're flying out to Hawaii.
My cousin and his wife and their three kids are going to meet us
out there on Tuesday. I think their friends are coming
as well. So it's going to be like a nice
little group. We're doing some scuba diving,
lanai cathedrals which I'm very excited about, and doing a
little short diving the day before because it's been like 3
years since we've dosed so we're like have to knock the rest off
but yeah. Nice.
And then cuz so next week, I mean, the, the, the rest of us
can decide if we want to spin something up on Wednesday.
But then the week after is the NFL draft.
We are two weeks from Thursday evening.
So we'll of course have our extravaganza show, get some
guests booked. We'll be live for the entirety
of the first round. As always, if you guys have any
guests that you'd love to see on the program, maybe drop them in
the comments after the show and we will see what we can do.
But what else do you guys have have cooking in the meantime?
Jacob and I are about to go record a video for my new
Dynasty channel where we rank and discuss the second year
running backs. So your, your genties, your
tootens, your scataboos, nice, so on and so forth.
You know, Well, I my entire afternoon is cleared because the
Lord knows how long that's going to go.
Yes. That's a good topic.
I'm excited to hear you guys. Discussion Jacob, you should
wear your hat sideways for the entirety of that podcast.
No, I don't think so. I don't think so.
I'll wear it sideways forever. Much time we spend time with
Caleb Johnson, it's like a dunce cap punishment.
Hey, for like, hey, I have some comps on Caleb Johnson that
might surprise you. All right, I'll look forward to
that. The only problem with when Davis
says it's a bullish comp, like if Pat was like, hey, I have a
low key bullish comp for Kilobits Johnson after a year 2,
I'd be like, oh, OK, like I'm interested.
But with Davis, his comps, there's no correlation.
Like he'll be like, look man, this guy comps to Nile Davis.
Isn't that exciting? I'm like, no, no, it's not.
He'll be like, look, man, my sleeper in this year's draft
comes positively to Deanthony Thomas.
I'm like, well. Can you imagine Deanthony Thomas
in this NFL by the. Way see like he's doing it for
real. Yeah, right.
Like you're legit. Anyways, thinking about thinking
I have my two-part running back prospect article, I have my full
wide receiver prospect article that's like I think 25,000 ish
combined words. So if people want to take some
time to go read that over the next couple of weeks, I would
appreciate it greatly. Yeah, check out.
I've got the rookie profiles on the running backs and the
quarterbacks are out, receivers are rolling out.
I'm going to publish one probably later today or early
tomorrow morning, get the rest out later this week.
And the tight ends, I'm going to, I'm going to schedule for
early next week. And then yeah, seriously, I will
be drafting after this. And if anyone wants to like,
play some ultimate Frisbee. Hit me up, play on the quad.
Oh man, and yes, I referenced it earlier, but submissions are
open for So You think you can tell.
As of this morning I had watched all 43 submission videos so far,
and I'm going to have a video out soon kind of showcasing some
of the stuff I've liked. Answer a little FAQ I.
Literally cannot fucking wait to be called in for a judge on this
and just kill everyone. Just be like, you suck at this,
you suck, you're terrible. You can't do what I do, like try
harder. Yeah, can't wait.
That's a great, great kind of follow up to me trying to
solicit submissions as being I can't wait to murder you.
On. Stream I actually think that
might be a selling point. Like Davis going at Davis
promises to go at you. I would submit if I knew Davis
would definitely go at me. I feel like that.
Would make me want. To submit more, imagine.
Imagine you do so good, there's nothing for me to say.
Imagine you're just great. Imagine.
Have you ever had nothing to say?
Never once, Not once. Not now, not never.
There will be times in my life where I'm like, you should say
less. And it lasts for about 7
minutes. I'm just like, OK, that's awful.
The problem, Davis, is I would bring you on to judge like a
streaming competition, but there's no way you're gonna sit
through and watch any of these people actually stream.
So that's not an issue 0. Yeah, no, no, like literally
buddy, no chance. I don't have enough like I you
guys experienced this as new dads like the podcasts I
listened to. I got like none of it.
I, there's like there like I'm I, I haven't listened to like a,
an NBA podcast in 10. Days you said you woke up and
listened to hardcore history just so you could well actually
people today I. Did I wish I had 60 minutes to
the gym this morning? I put on Hardcore History and
that was it. That's all.
That was all I got. There you go.
But yes, I will be, I will be reaching out to all of you guys
for, for guest judges at, at various junctures.
I want I want Jacob to definitely help with some some
good debate stuff. Oh, I'd love to.
Ben I. Do get more conservative.
He goes for billiard or should exist to chugging claws on
Daddy's yacht. Yeah, I get younger, but more
conservative for sure. You definitely look like you
just showed up at the frat party with 44 locos and and you're
like, which three of my boys are joining me for these?
And you're like, I don't know, flip over some sort of plastic
table? I look like everyone's like,
yeah, Pat's cool, but then like I'm a real piece of shit
underneath, like. That you literally look like
you're dressed up for Halloween like it just does.
Not. He does.
He does.
Literally, he does, yeah. You know that scene in the
Social Network where it's like just a cut up of, of Andrew
Garfield's character, like with all the really annoying weirdos
trying to get into the Phoenix social club and they're just
like, I don't know, like doing weird shit.
And there's like drinks flying everywhere and there's like 17
extras. You could be one of the extras,
right? Now, all right, so this went
from like me feeling good that if I flip my hat back I can
still look young, to now I'm slowly becoming an absolute
Greek. You might get, you might be that
AD you could get a younger. You're younger, but.
You're a problematic. All right, yes, that now
objectifies. All right, we got it.
We got we got we. Got it.
Any further comments on Diana Rusini?
Yikes. Yeah, if you want more Diana
Rusini and variable content, go back and watch ADP Chasing from
last night. You can get the slides, all the
tabloid fodder that you turn to ship chasing for.
It's it's all there. It was fun to get the band back
together. Maybe we'll do something next
week while Pat's out. Otherwise, ADP Chasing, we'll be
rolling and then the following week, the big draft
extravaganza. If you guys are YouTube members,
make sure that you go into the Deposit Kingdom Discord, sync
your account, you get access to that ship chasing private chat
in there. And also very soon we're going
to be announcing the details of our summer ship chasing annual
meet up. So if you guys are in the
Discord, that's the best place to stay up to date, but we'll
let everybody know the plans here soon for Pat, both versions
of him, Jacob Davis, Alexander the Great, Mike Vrabel, Keaton
Mitchell. I'm Pete.
We'll see you guys next time on ship chasing.