All right, guys, the name of the show is ship chasing last week,
we were ship sweating and I am happy to report that some ships
have been officially tracked down.
We did acquire the ships. We of course, took down our NFC
League that we've been talking about on the A show with Gretsch
Leone and Pat and we have a special guest tonight who took
down an even bigger prize. It's none.
Other than our very own Draco who took down the hundred
thousand dollar ffp. See best ball contest, Rico.
Congratulations, welcome. Welcome to the show buddy at
thank you and thanks very much for having me on guys.
Yeah, you were just telling us and we knew you were you were in
Ireland there for the holiday break a bit.
I was immediately curious. Did you try explaining to your
family and your relatives? This sweat that you had going
on. And, yeah, I mean, I didn't
explain any of the details. I just said, I just said, so I'm
in, I'm in, I'm in this fantasy football team.
And, and I, when I got there, I wasn't in the finals.
I just. Okay.
So it's, it's a tough treat teams at a wedding 12, go
through. And, and if I get through that,
then at the end, the the final is it.
Coleman same 400,000. So it would be splitting that
and they were obviously excited for me and and I watched the, I
watched return and in our area for a week fixing and I'm sure
you can imagine how I was reacting and there was one point
where Ram had told her Boyd caught, that big portion pass.
Oh, yeah. And like, I screamed, oh, yeah.
It's like, what are you understand?
But they didn't really understand, but I think they
kind of did that's it. You didn't get into
conversations about how you double stack jobber.
Oh, no, that is, that is awesome.
But yeah, so for those of you guys who don't know what we were
talking about it a little bit last week, so that finals, it
had Leone. It had the road of Guys and Rico
all in this same finals and Draco battled it out with the
road over his guys who needed, I believe. 11.6 PPR points from
Jarvis Landry, is that right? Draca, 11 and a half would have
been an 11 or 11 and a half, would have done it and so, and
what did he finish up with on Monday night?
Eight point nine, eight point nine.
Three short nose after the decimal The tough game script
for you to fade him to like they were just behind the entire game
right there. That I think when he caught the
first, he caught a first pass for like 20 yards and then he
had like a six yard run and I was like okay this is this is
going to well and but then if the NFL like litter every Baker
Mayfield past just got voted down either got sacked or or as
poss cup out of town. I don't like okay, like this
could be okay. And then I think that the worst
part was and the the second last Drive is kept getting extended
with these like, get the last drive.
So obviously and 15 or catch would it would it would have
taken them ahead ahead. So the laughter.
I've okay. It's turned down.
Okay, it's 4th down all day. They just got a penalty.
Oh, they just got net. They're driving down the field.
And I'm then he got he got two Red Zone targets and the one
where he was like looking over both shoulders and he dropped
it. I'm like thank God and then the
other then at tight end cut it right?
I forget which side and caught it.
What the hell? Yeah, the very next play after
the other shoulder one was back from the injury and he drew a
DPI and then Harrison Bryan, caught the 1-yard TD right after
that. What the worst part was, when
the arms like a recovered. I was like, okay, no.
They just have to get a first down there.
Just going to fuck and then as you broke free and then he broke
free and I guess everyone knew the game was over at that stage
so nobody traced the and they scored the touchdown.
I don't say. Oh my God these guys have 50
seconds to recover but thankfully yeah thankfully they
didn't. We talk about that on the Tilt
space to those two different types of sweats.
You know, when you're the one charging and you basically have
zero expectation and then you get to feel that Euphoria versus
when you're holding on for dear life, and rooting against things
to happen. The latter, I do not enjoy if I
get to pick which sweat I get and then pot mean you were
talking I on at about 6:00 or 7:00 I thought that was it like
I thought, okay. Like there's ladies team can
catch like and then you The crazy Rashad Penny game.
You had to know a fun forequarter and I'm looking at
it. Okay.
He he's a he's not that far behind now 165 or something
points at that. They have Davante, Adams and
Jarvis Landry and there in like five points in each and
receivers. But I'm like, oh my God, and
Jefferson and cook. You're sitting on at that point
and you're like, I mean, we might be able to Extend, you
guys had a lot of past to extend?
I mean Sunday Night Football was right?
Just a rough Outlook. Well II.
Yeah, I am. So it should be any spare time.
I'm gonna need your subscriber and I was watching the fucking
projections and as soon as soon as the curtain closes, help with
the testing came in, they went from, obviously, there was a
judgment it went from like I think he went from like 22
points Jefferson to like 15 or something.
You have that I know. It's like, okay, so this is that
this could be bad and then are and then obviously for a rare
for cousins after enough time for Jefferson on cook, literally
the worst case scenario came out because like I don't you haven't
really played that many NFL games.
So there was all there was always that black box where
we've seen like these unheard of and S drink water box and like
Oh, they played just enough and the weapons get there, but there
was literally like no chance of happening here.
And and after ready definitely shot that mannion could have
been. All right for sure.
After red, bottoms caught the touchdown.
And I just, I just had to learn my wife, like, okay.
Like I thought I won but I don't think I have anymore.
Yeah, Ivy, that is the thing about that prolonged, sweat to
after. I'd like, I was feeling that on
Sunday to like, had the Jamar Chase, and then there were shod,
Penny goes off and you're like holy shit like your random Dart
throw. Our be is putting up 30 plus but
then you remember there's still so much going on.
So many other variables so many other players and unique
combinations that it's a rough sweat Mike how are you sweating
the the best ball championships on Sunday?
Well I mean I was dead pretty pretty early my team like this
Dylan score. I got came in pretty late but
and Adams light to just kind of be like a but once the burrow
Chase stuff happens so early it was just you know, just an
Salute coffin for me. So that was a tough scene for
me, but Draco is funny. We're talking about how bad like
Minnesota stuff, ran, but even just getting that 64 58 from
Jefferson you needed. Oh yeah.
Not that was the difference. Like if I didn't have a second
place which yeah, if is if you look at the score replaced it
was what set or 8.2 from Henry was the replaced or yeah.
But yeah, I mean and also the running backs that were going
off early like I didn't have much at running back and for I
knew draco's draco's team was the favorite going in like to be
very clear like the best team one like his team was definitely
the best. Not only did he have like the
highest projected team but he actually had a lot of unique
leverage which is a nice combination.
I felt like I had pretty good leverage but my team definitely
was way behind Rico at the running back spot which you saw
he gets Orders from Singletary. Sony Michelle and I was pretty
much banking on Dylan Pollard. I got Swift back but he didn't,
he didn't play that much. You know, was was, you know,
huge one for you. Yeah, I had.
So there were eleven Andrews teams.
Yeah, I was the only non Andrews.
I was the only kid old team so Trey.
Lance just hates me because, you know, I've been wanting him to
play all year and then we hit the championship game and I'm
like, can you please play this game and distribute suggest
side? I, you can debone.
As well like the full San Francisco.
Yeah you can even see like as much as tight end look like it
be the you know the leverage Point like you know, don't and
Schultz didn't give up that much on Andrews.
It's just when when Chase separates 20 some points in
Borough separates another 13 from your quarterback at that's
just going to be way too much to make up.
Yeah, the burrow stuff was huge and We do see you know why
stacking is important? Like I know everybody was
listening to this kind of Knows by stacking is important but to
get that combination of you know, okay.
Cincinnati decides the last two games of the Season they're
going to throw more aggressively.
That one thing happens just a little bit more aggressively.
Yeah just a little bit but it flows you know back-to-back
weeks like even though Draco didn't have t Higgins like Chase
and Floyd were still solid last week in the Baroque puts up the
huge score like that alone was big.
Then this week, you get the combination of the huge game and
it was kind of nuts. Bro.
You're not only is it a super high score quarterback but it
really separated, you know, there weren't that many high
scores at quarterback. I might have had one of the
higher number of scores actually with deck at 26.
Yeah. Mike, you think Casey asking
here if you could pull up the the draft board here would be.
So it would be my draft board. Gotcha, gotcha.
Yeah. Draco.
Just because your internet and mine.
Not have you share it, but do you recall for no with Sony
Michelle? What was he on?
The was he saw in the past when you drafted the Sim?
Oh yeah. So I yeah, he did.
He was an atheist for this team. We dropped them literally
because addiction show with Ash, Ron Siegel Briggs said.
Yeah, you should drop the Sonya Shepherd.
He might get raided. I remember them and you
accidentally on the show, we have them.
It was like no I think we should check because shot thinks he's
gonna get traded and Sean's. Never wrong about this stuff.
We all started out Exodia, Michelle shares and then you
beat on because it's a week. We did a live auction stream
with Chris ival who we beat in the NFC playoffs, by the way.
And he, it was kind of crazy. He was like, yeah, I think he
might go to the Rams and, like, literally the day after we did
this dream, he went to the right data.
So that was that was the one of the Huge differentiators on my
team was buying for to was the last round Sony Michelle pick.
Yeah, just a sick back. And yeah, the chat talking about
the Rashad Penny play, which was on the road over his team as
well which is just also seems fitting because Shawn I know has
been high on Richard Penny. You know, ever since he came out
I think he wants like backed up the truck to get Richard Penny
from me in a dynasty League when he was a rookie.
It so to see Richard Petty, finally, propelling people super
funny for me. I've never Been in a situation
like this. But last late last night I did
the Wednesday stealing bananas pod with Sean and recapped his
loss and now I'm here talking with Draco, the guy who beat him
and exact same contest. It's very bizarre.
So the sides of the same coin, he had a different take on the
Jarvis. Landry plays down the stretch,
you know, nothing. Yeah.
I love listening to Sade what he's pissed off like, he's very
politely talking about how disappointed he was about see
deal. I am in like the Cowboys passing
offense. Like he's like, yeah.
And it just really felt like CD lamb should have been doing more
of these kind of like thesis plays and basketball and it's
very easy after the fact to kind of like oh this is how the
season was always going to go. But you know something like
specially bends good at is how there's different paths, the
entire season can take and we've been playing the Bills running
backs for like two straight years.
Is and, you know, it finally hit a little bit early in the year
for Singletary. But then it was kind of like oh
you know same old same old as last year I have we draft Bills
running back to no upside and then Singletary the entire
playoffs stretch was really really strong and he was in both
your lineup and Sean's lineup and just to like think through
about how much stuff changes through the course of the
Season, like I have a vivid memory from that.
The game was at the game, you went to Leona the Patriots game,
their worlds, like Zack boss is Debated.
It is like their lead back the entire game.
You know. Singletary was barely involved
that game and then Singletary is the guy down the stretch.
It's like catching these waves at the right time.
Is definitely a big part of it as well.
The Sony Michelle stuff to, I mean, look like, oh, he's gonna
have a run and then it's like a Sony Michelle even like, worth
hanging on to, and then rice, like takes the job.
So, you know, stuff changes very quickly, right?
Rico, how many How many bullets did you have in this contest
for? Wow, that's incredible.
That's a, that's amazing. It was that a slow draft or a
live bad at 125? So yeah this was a so draft I am
I get it with a co-manager and as named Joe is an Eddy and and
we actually we didn't know each other and we were just at the
bias 125. So we decided to pull this.
Just try to spread the various little bit and And I didn't own.
So there was no way we were doing a fast draft together and
I highly recommend it drinking. Yeah, it's funny that that would
be the great unknown. You know what, I just thought of
an idea like a concept idea. So it's like speed dating but
for live drafts and like, 30 people put their name in and you
get jumbled up, and then you have to do a live draft with
that person. What's that show?
Where were what's that? That opting where you go on and
then you just get Miss would have run the person and then you
go again go again Tinder forgotten.
Oh no it's like the the roulette thing from the yes.
Dick pics on that one. We just like, cut through
people. Like, I don't know.
It's a little early for Tamar Chase.
Then just like a dude masturbating what, what kind of
weird shit you got? You guys are all talking about
something called Omegle. I've never heard of this, in my
life. I've never heard it.
You guys are all on synthetic pick website.
I didn't even know. So what are you gonna your
co-manager? You said you didn't know him
before you guys going to try to, you know, celebrate at?
Yeah, Point here. Yeah.
So I'm some point, I'm not sure when, but he said that he he's
wanted to go to the the Hall of Fame in Canton.
So a good spot for us to meet up that he was hoping to At to meet
up somewhere for the, for the week 17, and upon those who are
what. I just didn't work out, but
yeah, you're right. I showed me the guy $100 with.
That's right. F, Fe c-- should actually, you
know, bring a camera crew and you guys the music and your kind
of jogging to each other and well that is that is awesome and
we're all super stoked for you. I mean, if for those of you guys
who aren't in the Discord, Go is very active in both, the
establish the run and the ship chasing Discord, and it's been
awesome to get to node Rico this summer.
He did truly work his ass off and I know he say 04 bullets or
whatever but Draco put in so much work this year and just
watching you turn into this incredible fantasy player and
then to reap the benefits of it was super, super fun for us all
the safe. I appreciate that.
That's very kind of you to say and we look forward to you
Defending Your your title. And next year now you're going
to have the BP. The best ball bro.
Target on your back and all these traps.
Yeah. Huge.
Are you come back? Iron.
Are you worried Rico? That RF F?
PC, competition's gonna be a little bit higher next year.
I feel like, oh, it's that it's obvious.
It's going to double in size and I've seen after I think it's
going to double in size and I've seen In a lot of comments are
like, oh, I never looked at this FPC thing before.
Like I was feeling that there's probably a lot more people that
would grind clothes, that weren't just just didn't.
Look at it, didn't look that fat PC might be looking more
strongly out of that next year. I've like I talked about this
with Sean and calm on the road of his overtime show.
But I like this structure so much in terms of tight and
premium, two flags for Fall in particular, like there was a lot
more variation of teams in the finals.
I felt like, you know, even with it only being 12 teams and on
the playoff weeks, it's three out of 12 teams Advance.
You know, over three weeks ban to get into the finals, which is
the fourth week at that playoff week.
So you don't have to have like, you know, Jabbar, Chase goes
absolutely ham. Like you could survive that week
16 or whatever and get into the finals, know you get like I'd
probably nickens in week 16, right?
And you and if that had been The fight like I'm, you know, I
guess Underdog like people survived that but because he
didn't make it on that many teams but there are like just
more variations in the way teams are structured and whatnot, so
it's pretty cool. I think the other thing that's
really nice about it is that there's 12 teams in each group
which makes it so much more personal like especially at the
final like 12 people and like we didn't like a core a quarter of
the, the finals, like our turn. Which was really cool.
Yeah, that and that is the difference to you.
Like with the underdog one, we have a million dollars up top,
you know, their group final is 160.
It's just harder to get those groups down to a manageable size
when you have that big of a prize.
So when you can keep it there that I did, like the 12-man, it
reminded me of like, in poker when they make the final table,
it's like the November nine and you get to know them from the
World Series of Poker because they would, you know, string it
out. That's how I felt knowing.
All right, the road of this guy's all in that one.
Awesome. So we are up to a Leah Murphy by
the way, who's in the who's? Oh there's Leo, there's lamb.
Yes! Another best ball man.
Who has been goaded shipping? The Millie also had a top finish
in one of the puppy drafts. I'm going to do a show with him
tomorrow on my channel, very proud of my chess coach, you
know. I taught him everything.
I know about best ball and he got it.
Did you uh, did you want to be a millionaire?
Winchester yo, a Magnus hasn't been returning my headline but I
have ready for him, whatever he wants to put up a million.
So the other the other Championship that we brought
home around here was our NFC league and we had been talking
about it on the show. We had a decent lead heading
into this week. All of us were worried Gretch.
Told us we were going to win it became like the worst whatever
because I couldn't show my face on the show ever again.
If if we lost it somehow, we Ooh that I mean it would have been
nice. Knowing you guys really honestly
like Gigi. Yeah, yeah.
So what was it what did we need to fade?
Like heading, it was like 90 we were up like 85 points at
something. It was it was pretty It was a
pretty didn't play Jill burrow in the final week because we
were, we were just trying to play defense.
So we actually, you know, we played taysom Hill because we
had Jamar Chase. We played taysom Hill just to,
like, avoid the Cincinnati collapse scenario which
obviously was the exact opposite scenario played out, but it
didn't end up mattering because we, yes.
At what point did you guys know that you won?
It is increasingly want Chase was going on.
The moment. She starts going to shout.
Yeah. Yeah.
Far ahead. We just needed to avoid like an
eighty Point week or something, right?
I do wish we had played Borough in hindsight, just so we could
have won by 100 me too, me, too. I guess we wouldn't have won by
100 but it was right before half.
Chase already had two TVs and we got Kelsey and Taylor, Jonathan
Taylor TD's right before half as well.
Those morning games and I was like, all right, well, we like
all of our stuff has scored now are like are like three of our
main sights of scored four touchdowns now like we're not
yeah we're not in trouble. Yeah, we thought it would be
fun. Pat went and re-watched back
this stream earlier and grabbed a few timestamps.
That may be either aged in a hilarious fashion or an
embarrassing fashion. So we thought we could the nice
thing about about revisiting a stream where you win first place
in points. First place in the regular
season record and win the league.
Is that there aren't that many embarrassing moments.
I'm sure, plenty of other embarrassing moments throughout
the summer but this stream mmmmm didn't have a lot.
They did have quite a few funny moments though.
Yeah. I don't know.
Every time we keep scheduling those other shows to go through
the drafts where we didn't win any money, they just keep
getting cancelled with her just because we're busy that day.
I love the title of this stream. Yes.
Yeah. Bickering with Mike Leone.
This was T was drafted on September 7th right before the
season started Pat your kind of our expert on having just
re-watch this. Where's the best place to kind
of watch a clip? How much, how much, how deep do
we want to dive in? To hear the whole thing.
There's a, there's a, there's an immediate bicker out of the gate
where I'll just describe some stuff and you can click that if
you want. There's an immediate figure out
of the gate at five minute. Mark were been says that.
Tyrone Johnson, being cut will be good for Austin Eckler, and
Leone cannot cannot deal with it.
All right, let's see. This is like, this is like,
Davis trying to tell me. Tell Paul being come.
You guys hear it from a coal Hardman used to take.
We have here. So this is a tough.
Does it tough wrong? Yeah that was a tough run.
That was very tough run. So the backs here we're probably
ended up begging. You guys can hear it?
Yeah, yeah. I'll try to figure that out but
yeah, tell me where to tap to go to Let's see.
Go to 1915. Okay?
Actually go to the go to the 6-minute mark because that's
where that's the big. That's one of the key moments of
this whole draft. Okay.
Yeah, I'm getting like especially sais quoi on the news
this week has been pretty clear that he's good, right?
He only what are the typical like type of wide receivers that
are available when we pick next because obviously, we're used to
the 3/4 turn, usually a J1 of AJ Brown, Jefferson or CD, Lambs
there. But, you know, Ben Has shared a
draft with us but that wasn't the case.
So it's not guaranteed. And then if that doesn't happen,
you're looking at like Keenan Allen, really?
The Keenan Allen or the next year, guys?
Yeah, I'm going to take Kelsey here.
Okay, let's let's be Kelsey. I mean, if that's the caliber of
player we can get with the third round reversal, I definitely am
a OJT or whoever else. What other running backs would
it be for you guys Berkeley? Yeah, we did JT or Berkeley.
I move Berkeley back ahead of JT, personally, because of just
had them back to back and four and five All Season, basically,
but the news that like, he's seemingly fine, right?
Yeah, either those of a slight lean for Berkeley but he is like
super volume dependent. Obviously you guys.
Can I like this one? I really have a slight lean
towards jkc but I don't have a strong.
Alright, then break the tire. Peter break the tie.
II have a slight lean toward JT, I think.
So, we have to towards Berkeley and to Torquay, all right, 10
seconds, I'm gonna go JT here. I'm gonna give it to this ship,
Chasers home field advantage, the only we got our asses be
sick, dude, you only the legend. I don't know why.
Didn't doubt put the put the onus on somebody?
Maybe the overall ceiling At where 50 there Leone cracks a
joke at 1250 that I don't even know what it is, but I enjoyed
it. Did you?
I was going to say do you have the big default on your father?
This is that's good. Here we go, here we go.
So yep, we're all on board here. Robert Woods is just a single AJ
Brown. Lock it in correct?
Yes, yes. Alright, 9 1951 that I feel a
lot better. It's one of those things.
Like, you obviously don't know what's gonna happen, but you
certainly feel 1915. 1915 is the DJ more and more a bet.
I'm pretty sure that one got a pretty shitty that would be not
very pretty God. He's so, I mean, he probably
wasn't getting all the way back to us, but To do that.
I've literally written. I think in more scenarios Cooper
out scores, but more is the better pick, you could make a
progressive. But then, based on the
difference in fantasy points, scored, all right, you draw that
up and we'll bet a dollar per Point different layers.
I really I will bet you absolutely just for the chance
again just for the content just for that the bit Equity a dollar
per Point difference. That gives you your Progressive
upside there? Yeah.
All right, let's do it. All right, but wait, wait, wait.
Wait a dollar. Let me all right, fine.
Let's do it. The boxes like who's reacting
live? And who is reacting?
Like, yeah, I know. We are, I kind of actually need
to. Yeah, we have these are gonna go
Draco here, but we'll get there that everybody's lined up with
their boxes, like a cat. Do you got kissed, Auntie agency
getting taken? And I thought it was Pat today.
Getting pissed and I was like this, he passed This is where
Leone takes down the, I you pick, which is one of the
sharper moves and then tosses into Jamar, Chase.
Just an utter, just puts on a show, right?
What sorry, this is 2150. 2050. Okay, here we go.
And I'm going to shift this over to the file when it's done
downloading because I still can't hear you definitely don't
agree with. Oh, I'm excited.
Argue about that, who I'm excited for that?
After that until I got everything, figured out.
Now, here's a guy that we talked about in our project, I have
three guys in my head and I'm guessing one of them is not one
that Leone has in the queue. I've got three guys in my head
as well. I think two of them are in the
queue, and one of them is definitely on in your head.
No, I expect not in the queue. I know you guys are open today.
Why is it good? I ask the question.
Why are you two not to give? These are you thing has gotten
out of control? Control at this spot.
Not this is where he's been going all offseason.
Yeah he was going to earlier like the offseason how?
He's going way too early. It's I want some thoughts on
stuff. Okay, DeAndre Swift Julio Jones.
Okay. So there, I have them in the
chat. Judy is my number one and then I
you chase Claypool. You said, you had Chase ahead,
but I think I would take Swift. Swift is very interesting to me.
Swift is my number one and then Johnny, I think I'm Swift.
Judaism Swift Judy to Judy over Chase.
Welcome to Twitter. You can talk.
You can talk me into Chase. Between the two offenses, the
quarterback Talent between the two offenses.
Chase was a better Prospect than Judy.
I mean, it's like checks across the board.
You talking face to. I had Chase ahead of him at a
point and of the back because he's just falling.
All right. A little bit of ego.
He goes to. It's right.
Well, we could go Judy Chase. If we don't want to go switch
Leone, I want you to smash, I would take Swift.
Chase. Okay.
And I am. We're all Swift UT.
So we're going to take Swift with this first pick.
I don't think Swift Chase and I would have Julio before I even
Judy. I'm fine.
I'm I'm fine with Jace, if that's I'm also fine with Chase.
I don't have a strong wait. I just passed on chasing the
eighth round in my is his Henry trolling us.
He's an Arts. Yes, that's what's going to
happen here. Like if any of these guys have a
chance to get back, then I want to push that guy down.
I don't think either is coming back.
Understand anyone were discussing.
It's not the sharpening. Hi, I'm fine with with Jace over
Judy. It is not our a three-on-one
that lonely just Flex. His muscles went crackers.
I thought we're gonna maybe have a little more conversational.
EOD what I said just pressed a cracker.
I think, I don't know. I don't like we're Judy but
At this point. Just because I came on board
with the Jamar Chase pick. But then, at 1:16, I reveal why.
All right, so there's yeah I do. I know you love coll commit but
like I don't I don't think he does it for us on this team.
Yeah we don't have to take him. I just think he's a reason.
I think the guys you are like next to.
I think we need to grab a couple of facts here.
Yeah. Yeah.
Mckissick still there in like you basics of Smash, if he falls
mckissack McKinnon And Penny and Collins High ghost Island.
Todd Johnson was the next for me.
Justin Jackson, I like McKinnon. What do you guys think about
McKinnon versus Darrell that stuff?
So, like McKinnon a lot better. We only, we got to talk about KJ
Himmler because he said, there's no one good after Campbell, but
like caging handles better than Campbell.
So I think his path to upsides a lot shakier, than Paris
Campbell's, but maybe I'm wrong, I like Hamlet.
I feel like there's a two pretty big teardrop there.
But we're probably not starting Paris right away.
So it's I mean, T, Y, Hilton might just be not playing.
Oh, now you don't like the old when we get back to prospect
profile stuff and taking these shots and he swings, you guys
can be Superstars, yada yada, I mean, Pat, how did it fare?
Caging Hamlisch crossbow profile.
It's pretty nice. He's underweight but otherwise
he's got everything you're looking for.
All right, we got the Tang, gang ribbon under.
This is a tough spot for us. Justin Jackson and Boston, 7's,
Davonte Booker Rashad Penny, I have it is because my shot Jake
mission statement. McKinnon is such a home, run,
swing for any games at words, alarm Agnes.
I like the no Williams doesn't have upside.
Right? Wasn't this January?
That's not so much if he has upside as if he just blocks.
Oh you like I don't mind taking another one of these wide
receivers here just with how gross running back is unless we
think we're really going to leave ourselves exposed.
Yeah I mean I don't know that well this point is almost
doesn't make a difference. Frankly.
This is where we draft but Bateman's pretty high up the
ATP. He's the second wide receiver in
the ATP on the question. Yeah.
I mean do we the Army's way down the only risk you have with
bacon burger? Is just that we end up, just
churning him right away for a running back.
Anyways, because we're right. Handler is pretty far down to
he's ahead of the army. But well, what about commit?
You guys don't want to commit. You can just quick know that if
you want, I guess we could do. Come at, I don't eat.
What do you mean? I don't know.
I don't know that we need to because we're not tied in
premium these guys as perine any different than Alexander
Madison. I mean, should we do?
Oh you want me right now? I think meant later Penny Penny
over those guys. All right, you guys, there was
three seconds on the clock that's fine.
Pat winds timeouts, that's embedded in stone ever since
Zack boss, John rigor, when in zaandam see this, this is why
you give Leone Jamar Chase. Because then when the clock
ticks down the one who's he click Rashad Bateman It's in
high school. So I just like, to point out
that Richard Feynman, was just an absolute Master Class.
By Pat, where we didn't talk about Bateman like the entire
round and then once we got on the clock, he threw him out
there. The obvious like way down.
Yeah. And then brings up the huge ATP
difference. But we were talking about the
Army either like just just like a subtle like, you know, like
that silent knife, that just gets Works its way in there,
negotiation stuff, because it seems like there's a lot of
negotiation there. Forever.
It's good. Yeah, no.
I think he's just, I mean, normally the way this stuff
goes, it's just whoever feels the most strong ends up kind of
getting their way. You know, if one person's like,
I really want this guy right now, like you're probably going
to get a bit weird. Also, a draft, I'll say that.
We talked a lot about in the week, leading up.
We referenced already on one of these scenes, the call that we
did before. I mean we had a really pretty
clear plan I think coming in. So like I don't know, I think a
lot of this is sort of following the plan to a certain extent,
right? And so, like some of the
negotiations and stuff are, I don't know.
I remember sitting with you actually did get thrown off a
little bit though with the Taylor Swift.
Yes. So early.
Yeah, we what does that mean on receivers in the first four?
For sure? Yeah.
Does that work? If we click about that, let me
see if I can find it. So if you go to 3755, we
actually talked about the coning Vibe.
It is funny though. Like how, how close things can,
okay? I was working back.
It's like oh we drafted this amazing team but you already
seem like a bunch of spots where it could have not been amazing.
Or it could have been like even better like with the penny
stuff. Like, assuming we would have
held all year, and I don't know that we would have, but as we
have drafting Justin Jackson, we dropped him.
So I don't think we would help any.
Yeah. All right.
Pat, what's our next one? I'll do we?
Not think if you go to 3755, we joke about how this is actually
the least opinionated that we are of any draft that we did.
Thank you about your mark, Jason Lyon, you just fucking slammed
it. So, I took yesterday off, I had
it circled for weeks, I play 36 holes of golf and drink, ten
beers. So that's what you're seeing
from me about the subdued. I've been a little hungover.
I'm a little physically beat down from 36 holes of golf.
That's that's my issue here. They have this is the mentality
you want because you and Blair can just steamroll Pat and I on
you pound the table. Oh yeah.
We're gonna we're gonna this is like yeah, this is a perfect
world. I would never want to co-own
with me more than how I am right now.
Yeah, the first, the first draft of the season is when you do not
want to cook, we're not want to come with the last.
That's great. Harrison but Quran, the 14th
like Davis. That was cool dude.
Without a chief Davis will have something like that.
Maybe is sharp, or maybe not, and then, he always ruins it
somehow. And I went back to her, fpg just
weird looking through our exposures the other day.
Let's see. There we get fight.
There's two more. Really what we get fired up
about 45 40 about about the team.
We get really fired up. Hey sorry.
I got the screenshare got stopped here.
What what timestamp Mike 4340, okay.
I'm sorry. Then we got it.
We got talking about how you got a tan or something.
I just love like we get your your office here and then right
in life, you know, you're up in The space shuttle.
I mean, it's fantastic, we're in ship chasing, so I'm in a ship
also, what I use for tilt space, so it seemed it seemed
appropriate it is you get the double meaning here, but I don't
know. I get there.
So many injuries. The other guys, I do want to
clarify. We aren't team for.
We're actually team 12. You can notice up on the bar
there. Ours is shaded in Gray there.
That's actually our team guys. Yeah.
Thanks for asking. Yeah, no.
I know there's some confusion out there.
Yeah. But I don't know if you guys
know but we kind of just pick the best players based on
whenever we're drafting. Rasterized he's overrated
structural drafting is dead Long Live playing last place every
years different gun. Just take the best players but
we did feel like it's my fault. I come on a show.
We draft running backs. All dude or 12 12 is such a
smash like that's I love it. Who cares?
We'll have a good structure layer.
What? Because they only last year,
where the 12 in this class, both had very efficient year ones.
These are guys that you want, they are rocket ships.
If we did the draft again as NFL teams, they would also be the
one to that. Like they're the best of the
most talented guys in the class. I mean Dobbins, I think would,
would have been right there to pre-injury.
But I think at this point, it's like a no-brainer that they
would be the top two running backs in the class there are
scenarios They're both top five back this year and we're just
like, hey, our team's really good.
We also have Travis County, are we going to name our team Taylor
Swift? But wow.
All right, blank space is that the other the other clip feed is
the recap case, which there's a there's a bigger into the recap.
So what if one 46 Ford, 146 30 vicar into the recap?
I want a Victory lap. I don't remember this at all,
but Pat, when he went through the timestamps said that I
mentioned a lot. Elijah Mitchell multiple times.
So I know there's there's a bunch of times were and we just
treat Leone like you didn't say anything.
No one no one says, they don't like them.
This is like do like them. They just ignore, we just ignore
the name and he says it honestly throughout this whole stream he
probably mentioned him four times so good but I just I see a
new common in the private chat. I look over.
I wish I could screenshot but there's on the screen for all
the audience I look over at like oh we got to talk about the
defense has you know He has a common in here, just as fuck.
You're smirking Gretchen. You were sitting here like this
while we were all talking. Remind scrap rocket scratch
garage. It's 105 degrees in the sauna /,
craft room. They're in Buffalo through.
We gotta put, we need some changes in this household.
Yeah, that's we gotta win some tournaments.
Get you an AC unit, what is it? Someone else.
I mean, we could have passed like what was the address Swift.
But the biggest Alpha play of all was when I overruled you
guys and fast. Click to enlarge case Mr. Alpha
play kids, there's like 98%. Chance.
I'm getting angry tax because I was loud and make it was Leone.
You know, there's people out there, they're worried about the
offensive line, they're worried about the knee.
What they need to be thinking about is the fact that this is
an alpha play, what do you think about taking that you are afraid
to bully them and say, hey I don't know if there's more than
Is Lamar. How about how about clock
running out, randomly, picking a favorite player?
That was a bit of a beta player. It is nice to watch that back.
I was drinking and now it's time to sober up in 2022.
That was that was very fun. That was a very fun draft to do.
How do you remember all you guys that you guys are chatting about
this a little bit? Did you like watch this back?
And this is the first time I've seen any of this
we turn. I watch that like a month ago
because I was like, oh God, if we're going to re-watch this, I
don't know what I said there but I feel like it Was it?
I want to I want to defend myself on that too because I
don't know if it was in a clip but I think I said it at some
point but it was because I had way more exposure to JT at that
point that I wanted Park. I mean, it's part of why I was
flipping out trying to hedge in our 5K League then probably not
smart. Well we did it, we took it down
with there was what you know, this is what happens in anything
in life, when something good happens which is winning this
big prize here, as we start to go.
Oh, why didn't we have this in one of the bigger contest?
Why was it this team? What what's the big NFC contest,
Mike? The Primetime would be kind of
like the high States equivalent to the 12-team league.
So what we have one it. Did you ever check that?
I'll check assuming like We obviously would have played
Borough, right? Leave 100% live in that form.
So that puts us at like 6, 85 total.
Let's see. Oh I'm not sharing.
Where do you go? We would have finished second.
She's first was well ahead we would have been a draft.
We had a good enough team to finish second in the overall.
That's insane. What did what would that a paid
out? Lenny.
I'm trying to find that right now so I'm not entirely sure.
I mean our draft competition in that leak was strong.
Chad was in it. Yeah.
All the other like I mean, tons of I don't have in front of you,
tons of The high-stakes Grinders very strong leak stronger than
your average. You know, Main Event the
certainly waivers were tough in that leg over the years were
very we we did really do with the first half of the year.
We, I mean honest to God. Like you.
Look at the way this played out. This is one of those teams where
our draft want us to leak, right?
Like, look at those first six picks.
We got ya. Kelsey Taylor Swift AJ.
Brown Chase Debo like, basically that range and also Baroque,
look, we, there was not a lot of other dudes that we Played
throughout the year that weren't there were waiver pickups.
We didn't I mean where were we at like halfway through the year
and Fab we were like 900. Plus in fact when we like 960 so
like in to week 12 or something. Oh yeah, we had a lot of Fab The
Primetime League overall prizes. First place is 200k, second
place is 35k. Wow, is that a less than 1 in
the Obviously it's what I think we would have ended up winning
more like your league Roi is higher.
Yeah, but like not are wise higher, your Roi is actual money
but the actual like total net profit only would have been like
five k different or something. Wow, it does go to show the and
it's gonna be. So I think I have a feeling
we're to talk about and think about a lot next year heading
into the summer, just contest selection and being More mindful
of that because I mean waivers got out of control this year
across all our leagues. And I think we're going to pick
our spots a little bit more. What do you guys say?
I mean we're talking about working together drafting teams
together. I got some requests in the
Discord for us to rip off a couple Underdog draft.
Should you guys want to Penta draft?
Let's do a couple Gauntlet teams here.
Yes. All right.
I'm gonna pull your leg Go break ties not Leone because he's
shown that he's better than even Leone was you know, in their
their tournament. That's true.
If you guys want to hop into us,
thank you. I mean just completely nobly one
of these still shook. He just threw you under the bus.
I was trying to get right size in the Red River to get a rise
out of you. What happened?
Like I just I had so many W's in that draft re-watch that like We
actually didn't play probably Leone's biggest W of a thing
where he, like, talks with the also talk to us into deeper
Samuel, although I was like, well, yeah.
I had a lot of very bad drafts so that that just R A.
So this is the okay. This is a playoff one.
Right? Playoff.
And we got influencer 101 status here.
Oh God, Rico, what are we doing Rico?
What is what do you do with 101? I would lean Hill.
But I don't know yet. You're not just but they add the
cheese. They are so unlikely to get the
the first run by and there's a funk.
Yeah, I'm hard to get well Holmes coming back though is
like the only thing normally, the Kelsey team will take will
take my homes but I don't think it's necessarily bad to have
like two chiefs without without the right.
You can add a good quarterback on the NFC side.
Let's do it. I will trust the Draco magic
here. I think all although all three
of those you know wide receivers up, top are very viable there.
Oh, by the way, that was also on the stream, a Hassan death
threat to Leone. What is it about?
It was about, we were talking about visiting Buffalo for a
game and Hassan said he was only a couple hours away.
And then he said, sleep with one One eye open Leone and he said
you were dead as if that wasn't clear enough.
Yeah. Then I noted that his son can
make death or itself. Cheeky and fun, right?
Oh, I was worried. Alex had posted a first draft of
the FPC, playoff Boomer opto on Twitter, which is hasan's
domain, and I was really worried for Alex.
Yeah. Wrath Hell hath, no fury like
that. Alright, so we're going to be on
the turn. Here we have, Tyree kill.
Can we go Rogers, Aaron Jones or is that stupid?
Um, we're gonna it would have to be your lock me out for Dubai,
right. Does that matter to take a
second quarterback though? That's not, that's not in the
by. Yeah, we would probably play
again a lawn anyway. So he's he goes.
So nam, I mean, what about stack, the position like stack?
What about Chase? What about Jack?
Amari Jason Mixon. So I think you can wait on the
quarterbacks a little bit more, okay?
It's all about who's the other one.
You actually kind of have to that was diabolical.
I actually don't think you have to, like, I thought you can take
Chase here and you can get Pollard later whatever, like
you're not low, it's Jason, it's awesome Zeke Zeke even drops in
these drafts, a good but I think 54 and I got him in like the
fifth of one of these, you could also like where X Out of than
Iran became right, 11 off. So we act out of an AF, another
AFC team that we've taken in Chief on the last week, unless
we Onslaught the Cowboys, like if we get four Cowboys with like
DAC, say Dax, Schultz and Pollard.
I think you could go for 33 if you wanted but but we have the
Chiefs and the Bengals, you soon, we don't want it, there's
no other AFC team do and I'm saying that sorry, I'm saying
that a 4222 is viable. Ian?
Yeah, that sounds that sounds good to me.
I mean, we could go pretty heavy Bangles still right?
Like in theory? Yeah, I think he's like Nixon
and Higgins. Both.
I mean that would probably be a pretty good double tap here and
then you're pretty clear on burrow, probably, because
there's no other bangle that anyone would have Jack.
Oh God damn it. Yeah, but like, I have this next
dance, you know? Yeah, we got to think, bro.
I think we I think we go mix and Higgins and then trust that No
One's Gonna grab and unstack Borough, push the envelope.
I think we got pushed the envelope to if someone one-offs
burrow and screws us like, you know, it was fun, while it
lasted. And the other thing too that I
like with these is having the quarterback, the quarterback on
the on your Super Bowl team. That you're betting on going to
the Super Bowl. It's nice to just have that tact
in on it because then you don't necessarily have to draft
another running back if you don't want to.
So we're pretty on the Chiefs now because we're playing the
angles to the Super Bowl. Now we're just have Hills on
one-off, kind of. Yeah.
But when they don't play through the first round and then yeah.
Because what if they lose, they're not going to play each
other first round, right? The Bengals lose which are not
exactly trying to lose. Yeah.
They're both going to have home
games in the first. Yeah.
So they wouldn't Play until the conference Championship.
That's perfect. I think now.
So I was thinking with the to buys with the one by it's
confusing. So that's not necessarily
Titans. Get the by their, the 23, aren't
they? There is not a specific angles
lose. Whatever we just got say might
play to lose. Sure.
They might play to lose because there's Buffalo and New.
England are tied in the East. One of them has to win to win
that division. Basically right so Bangles might
end up the force eat, right? And then host probably the
loser. Nice, I don't know who ends up
the force in that scenario, but what do you depending on who's
left for Dallas? Because that's going to be our
big decision if we try to just still go for or we probably want
to add one more NFC team. Yeah.
Schultz. Just went to that's going to
make the Dallas is Rocky. Yeah.
As you say, like, Pollard, Schultz probably would have been
okay, but now it's like at least I got Cedric Wilson, gulps.
Oh, that's awesome. I mean, yeah.
Pollard. Cedrick Wilson.
So the other thing too, like if we want, we just need to think
who we want our other NFC team. We're going to obviously take
burrow with one of these pics. Dude, isn't this pretty late for
Michelle or yeah? Michelle Van Jefferson.
Yeah, that sure in that also. What about you makers?
You just did that? Yeah.
Are you really? Are you laughing at my face
reaction? Is that what's happening right
now I'm laughing at just bring it.
Up and Jefferson period to make it.
You drop it on yet somewhat viable.
I think, bro, Michelle makes sense and then yeah, we only can
have in Jefferson next turn. I would rather go Pollard.
I think then Michelle just because I think yeah of what
because that, locks that up for us and it gives us a little more
flexibility with a double tap on the same team late, if we want.
That's a good point. I don't know after presenting
will know their teachers around the turn so we'll know like
which To to hit together and yeah like sweating one of each
making it back. After watching these clips, I'd
like I'm afraid to disagree with Leone you for those those clips
those. I mean, just what happened, man?
It was not representative of my entire season.
Okay, this is good. Yeah.
So we have we have flexibility on the NFC side.
That's right. Nailed it.
You didn't nail it on that on the other Tower Swift.
Yeah. You were like, there's a
scenario where both these guys are top five back somewhere.
Like yeah, we have Travis Kelce. That was like, that was really
good analysis of the 13th, round of our top, five picks, it was
What do we want? The flyer NFC team?
Yeah. And that's what I was just going
to say it. Are there any NFC teams where we
could go with three from that team or another thing?
Do we want to consider super stacking The Bangles with Boyd
if we're already playing them as a sewer?
Or is that too much? I think we should super stack
going. Fuck you fuck yeah yeah let's
suppose that I'm with that. Yeah.
Because then we could like survive and I've seen disaster
with us. How many more stars?
Hyper concentrated offense. We know that like we 11
personnel. Run these guys out there every
play like this is great and good.
Now we weeks ago or what was it? We 15 when chasing chickens were
both not very productive right before bro.
One on the stretcher. I like that too.
Because the five then opens us up for.
We want a Bangles verse Dallas or a Bangles verse whatever NFC
team where we could do Kyler. And you know, one of these
Cardinals that are left. I don't think she take to Q
because where are you, bro? So we need to from the same NFC
team difficult. You take quarterback off, we
could do Connor Earth's, or we could do or Edmonds Earth's
admins is booth on San Fran besides Malaysia.
Probably left. Why not Elijah?
I'm sorry. All right.
We need to take Elijah first. I was messing.
I got messed up with that. My bad.
Yeah. Are you Mitchell would be do we?
I don't know if there's even a backup on San Fran if we don't
get Mitchell. But well, you play another
round, weird. I mean I think he's, I think you
could take a third right? Isn't 30k or no, I haven't done
a lot of these. I think great the running back
stuff. I'm not as worried about it
position wise. I mean, honestly, I think the
way you play this is like you draft triple Jeff Wilson and
just play it as like in the last year.
For net was the like the awesome pic in the last round because
everyone expected Roadshow to be the number one going into the
playoffs, like nothing happened. When it shouldn't.
At this point, we just take Cedric Wilson.
Probably. Yeah, we probably should.
Yeah, yeah that's a good one. And then and then we're using IU
and tyriq, it's just helping us advance and like even if it was
if it was Cincinnati, San Francisco in the Super Bowl we
technically like Yeah, have a chance but San Fran is such a
top. It like, well, you gotta expect
more than just Elijah Mitchell to produce it running back from
them, right? Like I don't think Jeff Wilson
or those guys maybe not on this team, but it in these whoever's
doing this dress. I'm not doing a lot of them.
I don't do that. I think it's going to be like,
95% of the are be touches, are going to be Mitchell if it could
be hurt. But if they go all the way the
playoff, I mean, all over the Super Bowl member like the most
certain Coleman you were, they both had like four touchdowns, I
mean, yeah. And see how these were heard.
Yeah, they don't. They're not playing that way
this year. If metal doesn't get hurt,
you're not going to see that wears like that year, was like,
every week we didn't know who to pick.
Did you think I'm more saying, like a four-game stretch of the
regular season? Did he stay healthy really at
all? You know what I mean?
Like, go back. We didn't have like, four games
of him getting 95% such as 44 games this year in the real
quick, real quick. Real quick.
We got 20 seconds. I really knew that week.
I do think we said you're coming to put in the queue but I will
just say because we are playing the Super stack with the
Bangles. And basically able to fill out a
starting lineup, maybe cam Akers, you could take like best
available in FC. I mean cam Akers is a guy who
like could just be the guy you need, if they destroyed,
wouldn't that be Kamara best available or all right?
Cedric Wilson, bad pic. I kind of see what you're saying
though. Like said like, if it's Dallas
Super Bowl, we might not even use cedrick Wilson.
So like right, Yeah, I think the other thing goes, well, he won
differentiate with the last pick, right?
Yeah. That whole you don't want the
pick that. Somebody, sorry, that's what
were you. Who are you talking to Chris?
I said that he want the different.
You want your loss pick to be different to everyone else?
You want you to just put it to his head?
You're just separating yourself so much more then.
Yeah, I agree with that just as well so graphs, I'm honestly not
sure it says his atp's 57. So it looks like people have
been tossing him into Dallas tax at the end.
Leo but still, what was your thought about?
If Dallas makes a Super Bowl, we wouldn't need Wilson.
You saw saying because Pete was saying, you know, we've got the
Cincinnati Mega stack, so we wouldn't necessarily even need
his score. So you're kind of weighing that
against because we have Gordon Cooper.
Yeah. Although if you get if they get
to the Super Bowl will probably use Wilson score at some point.
Yeah, right? But you're thinking like their
scenarios, where, you know, say The Bangles have a game, like
they've had one of these past, two weeks in the Super Bowl.
You're starting Borough. We have then one, a mix in her
Pollard, you're using, you can use, you know, Amari Chase and
Higgins, you know. It's you can get there like, on
the backs of the Bangles. And then just get, probably even
just one Cowboy scoring for you in the Super Bowl, if that's how
the game. Got you know.
Yeah, you're sure you want to do one more.
Yeah, let's do. At least the only I want to
finish that same frantic because I think you're making some great
points. I completely agree with you like
based on how they're going that Mitchell.
I'm just curious. If you're like, if you get sort
of the point I was making was like we do have like a four-week
stretch, we're projecting if they were to make a long run,
right? And in the regular season or any
other point, like sort of 0r B? Tenants do you would you apply
that at all in this type of a tournament?
Like yeah you would fight like it just like play that Mitchell
gets hurt basically. Right?
Yeah, clearly going to be Wilson.
If Mitchell gets hurt, I don't know.
I honestly haven't done a lot of these so I don't know if that's
like going to. I mean it seems viable like if
it was a San Super Bowl with Cincinnati and Mitchell was
hurt. You probably have a pretty
unique plus High projected scoring team in the final round,
the thing with the the mental stuff.
Like last year with fournette Road, you got like what covid
and banged up in curvature is Pinky, but then fournette took
the job. So you have to, I think that you
want a situation where like a door opens, and then, the guy
now is the lead back where it's much harder for me to see that
with Mitchell, because they just love Mitchell.
They love them so Curie and you're just bringing up Acres,
Pat. You're thinking like an anchor
scenario Acres could have to entire job.
Yeah, I think if let's say Michelle like Weeks is ankle and
acres is like back and he's got to be like the injury can have
been as severe as it must mean like a partially torn, I don't
know, but he liked the fact that he's playing now is wild to me.
He's going to be active, probably for the first game in
the playoffs. I mean, I think there's a chance
where he just looks like he did last year, and they're like, all
right, cool, let's roll and they need that.
The other thing is about, they need that, like, they Stafford's
Throne pick sixes left and right.
Like they could really use, you know, a running back with a
little bit. More burst Michelle's been good
but you know I think it would really help their team.
Oh, now we can go calcium. Oh homs.
It's true. Let's see what about be like?
Oh Diggs Al I mean, the bills are winning the Super Bowl like
that's pretty clear. Yeah I mean I was going to get
one. Yeah our last one was a Dallas
to this one ended up being sent to Dallas but yeah.
Man, I'll tell you what though if you miss out on a good
quarterback early. Like the Arizona stuff late with
Kyler see, yes. Pretty appealing Kyler still
free which is crazy. The only other thing too.
Yeah. You guys want to just lock up a,
let's go down on you. So what would your What would
you do? Like, maybe CD, or maybe, maybe
CD. It's probably too cute.
I just think that this combo is just such a friendly Pickwick of
looking NFC team that people aren't playing like, is is NFC
schools. Open to me, man.
Like the Packers could definitely run it but Tampa's
like kind of in turmoil. Yeah, I mean a team that where
you can get the best players like, I mean, yeah obviously
that's simple but San Francisco's family that team,
right? Yeah, yeah.
And I mean, If we're, if we are on slotting the bills or even
just doing for which I assume, we are at this point, you know,
we can still do three sets of two from the NFC or we could do
two teams of three. And what's nice about the bills
is you can get the other guys later.
I'm assuming I'm assuming I guess maybe Singletary might
have risen with the way stuffs gone, I don't know.
Yeah, he's up here a little. I do think we should prioritize
Singletary when the time comes. The Rams also feel pretty cheap
for their chance. I'm looking at been Baldwin
tweeted out the betting Market confidence, and the Rams are 32
chance to win, 30% chance. Now, that's Kansas City.
What do they got? There is 60% chance to win the
NFC. This is a tough spot, huh?
Yeah. It's so easy to follow ATP but I
feel like in this you got it and they take a stand.
Yeah. Which is usually a lines up
better. So it happens more organically
but like, no, I mean, but you could take a stand.
Like, if we want to go San Francisco like we can just do
it. Then you take singles are here
or yeah, deboned, Singletary and take T-Bone Singletary.
Yeah, finished Buffalo. And then and then then we can
come back with kittel and I, you know, I kind of like that
because it's like, well, get the Matrix for you.
Want for the teams, I don't know.
Yeah. If, if it does happen, you have,
you know, you have everything that you need.
Right. Yeah.
And you could also. All right, so we'll grab
Singletary here. Where did he go?
He's under up there over the other thing.
I'm just wondering for a construction, like if this
would, if you went 4 for 11, where it's like your bills and
49ers, and then you just pick like, super high ceiling,
wildcard guide to like help you advance and then you just are
using bills 49er scores, the rest of the way.
Yeah I think that's probably by about two.
Yeah you were Abs if 4411. Yeah yeah that's I like that a
couple just for the early rounds and then the last couple rounds
if they're the teams that are in.
You have eight guys. A lot of people don't have a
guys at that point you know? So the bills guys that are worth
drafting are probably what gave Beasley and Knox.
Yeah, baby Annie. Yeah, what's Manny's Health
stuff right now? I think he's also he's just
worse than Gabe. So, it's tough.
It's tough for me to get around it.
You're acting waiting might just play though, just because that's
true. He might big.
They've shown a willingness to play while season which makes no
sense. It's one of the things are like,
this doesn't seem to make sense and then you see gay playing.
You're like, it definitely didn't make sense.
So, based on like a teepee, it looks like Knox and kid'll.
Our next two as far as team needs, but this is where we can
also pick off a 1, if we want, like, if we think we have a
super-high upside, One like a Keenan or something like we can
also do that. What do you guys think?
I'm cool King. We can sit on it.
I'm going to just put an oxygen deficit on it.
Man. I mean Kendall feels like part
of our let's just get kid'll, dude.
Yeah yeah yeah, Kettle. If Keenan was guaranteed in the
playoffs, I'd be more into it. But like obviously if you're
taking a chance on the Chargers you don't care because you're
assuming they're in, but like as a one-off on your non Chargers
team it seems like an unnecessary risk.
Okay. Yeah.
Like having two tight ends is that good for rat, having unique
on. Nations.
You guys think Willis is lineup is really good, Cooper cup,
Henry Brown and then he's got Beckham staffer.
What Torico the two tied I think the two tight ends is fine.
We're just trying to get past catchers in there and your
destiny of its own unique, all fits, you know, you've done the
most of these Pete. Um, I think I would assume it's
it's Unique but I don't people haven't been too choosy.
Like positionally, I don't think people are going out of their
way to not get you Titans. So, how do you handle these?
He's drafts or like clearly everybody kind of knows what
they're doing with the exception of Hungry.
Like the Wolf, maybe. Well, it's I kind of like them
because there are in some of those drafts for people are just
like, they're probably drafting teams that can advance much
easier but have like, zero first place.
I know, buddy. So I like these where everyone
kind of has first place win in equity, and then it's just like,
let's see, who can it get out? And have a chance.
I was talking to Glenn and I was like, it's weird.
You kind of want to draft against smart people but You
want all the dumb people to be like in all the other leagues?
Yeah. You guys want to do Gabe and be
done with him and then, like Eli Mitchell.
I'm into that I like the I ground this first act.
Like we put a mixed up our NFC but at this point it just kind
of feels like we're just go for this.
Let's do. Let's do Eli first just because
he's a more valuable. I like the idea of if we're
saying the bills are going to win that they're actually
playing their better receiver but yay.
Yeah that's a great Point actually.
That's Part of the way they gets the Super Bowls, they play.
So if we go this route and we super stack, then I do think we
could just be done at three San Francisco and get like two
cardinals to end well yeah. Yeah, I mean, Kirk's it.
What I mean? Kurt seems like really strong.
Yeah. Well I'm not sure if Kirk will
last we could have entertained. I was looking at like mvs Dylan
at one point but oh that is there to.
This is also the danger of and I think most people like the same
with where we took knocks and gave.
It's like you're just knocking off like the rest of your stack
but understanding like Kirk has no chance of making it back to
us but because we've super stack the bills if Prioritize Kirk
there then there's a good chance.
Gave Davis all like no one's attacking him onto their stack.
Yeah no one's taking gave Davis's that the one-off.
That's a good point. So those are the kind of like
the things we start to like your mind starts to go down the
rabbit hole with these traps and if you are in a room with all
sharp people in a way, it's like you can.
All right. Well, you can kind of increase
your odds of making it out. If everybody stacking and you
pay a little bit more attention to that.
That first round is this large action Factoring in games play
like can you stop? Don't don't no no you can't sort
by projection. Just ignore those.
I think it's like just average even scoring type thing on it.
What is your guys take on Connor versus admins for playoffs?
I like admins. I feel like they're probably
gonna have to throw more and it's going to be more admins and
he's just going into it healthier than Connor.
Yeah, but it's a very PR so it's like not a huge stand and we're
all. So we're betting on the San
Francisco. If you have to the the the Super
Bowl I'm Connor getting a lot of touchdowns.
That probably hell, yeah. Yeah, Cardinals win.
Let's see. I don't, he doesn't have
anything in here. I don't think he's gonna take
it, so it probably doesn't matter.
Which or is there like a twill? Like, would you be, would you
ever just take like, well, I guess come are is kind of the
same boat as a Keenan, Allen play.
But So that's not too tight ends.
How about three tight ends to be?
Would you ever consider a guy like him are here Pete?
We're like, he could be by far the best score of the remaining
backs or I would, I think we can.
Yeah, it's better really backs. Like, do we have seemed like,
how much ceiling do we have a single term Mitchell?
We might need. They can carry us in a late
rounds if Buffalo and San Fran are winning in the Conference
Finals and in the Super Bowl. There's only back my my only
thing is I regret the Earth's pick if we're not taking any.
Yeah, I like Edmonds because we're getting probably to get,
we're betting on two games of him, I think it's two games
Edmund, C, cannot score one game Chimera.
Yeah, yeah, Chimera is more like the hey, let's make it through
and then we'll just use Singletary and Mitchell the rest
of the way, but Arguably depending on how Connors health
and stuff. Like admins might not even
project like all that. Yeah, come on.
I think you guys are thinking about this wrong for the, they
both can't make it. We know, they can't make it when
you build this team, you're playing for a 49ers Buffalo,
Super Bowl and you're just trying to get the pieces that
help you advance out of the Wild Card round.
Yeah, and I definitely think you can make an argument that were
just a teeny bit weak for for advancing out.
Running back especially. Yeah.
I mean even just like a Jonathan
Taylor early and then we could have pushed back some because we
did reach a little in spots. Like that would have been huge.
Even if they don't even make a big run, get those points.
You know, Sam saying the single honours.
Both can't make the playoffs. Oh, that's, that's well, that
that's your right. Is a good point.
I thought 49er was, we're a lock?
No, let's do a lock. They, they got a win.
They either have to win or not. Orlin has to lose.
So there are actually like 50/50.
There you go. Why exact hurts Zachary Smith
Chase? Yeah, Sam.
What you don't get about the wild-card?
Yeah, they're gonna let two of them.
Those are locked. So, what's up here?
Here's the final. They are, yeah, they're both
playing for the last spot. That's funny.
Colts 89% Chargers 51 so it's really kind of between Chargers
and Raiders and then between Saints and 49ers.
Yeah, yeah, there's a small chance if the Colts lost and the
Chargers and British tight, I think is what it is, right?
That they would both make it Yeah, something like that.
And so people were talking about it because they're of the
timing, if the Colts lose that they might be in a position
where the I saw something weird about, they could kneel the
whole game and you'll the whole game, right?
Yo, be in their best interest, but they probably won't, it's
the Raiders in the Chargers if they tie is a tie, they both
make the playoffs if the cold looks right.
And that's where it sets up that potential scenario of an entire
game of Neil Downs. Yeah.
Which they would never do. They would never do that.
Anyone ever do that? Also, like, I was thinking about
it, like, you would really have to trust The other team to
follow through like what are the fucking Raiders?
The last drive. Go down and kick a field goal.
Fake fake kneel down or something like the face.
They lie would do this Staley. I think would would would
consider this but you don't you can't trust the other team.
It's a mutually assured destruction.
Yeah, that's a bad idea. Is like, I don't think the drive
you want to beat them before, that.
Right. Is what you're saying?
Yeah. Because like, the people on
Twitter are saying they should kneel because are some people
who are like adamantly like really think both teams should
Neal I don't think are considering that it's like not
quite that simple. I don't think they should do it.
I just want them to do that because I think that means
riveting television to be some really interesting laughs Drive
stuff. Like if you're okay, if the
other team is up by feel, go to Montauk for your reply, feel go
and your And you're up for down or something like that.
I'm not sure I just love that. Yeah you're saying yeah only
time can become a meal down situation.
If like they played for overtime like over time could be really
casual. Well you know one thing would be
if like if you if they're driving down the field and
you're not taking time out so you're letting them run the
clock all the way down there down three your sort of letting
them like play for the game-tying field.
Goal, like encouraging them to yeah.
Play a little bit. Yeah.
Conservative right, believe you're encouraging that you're
like, this is cool. We're cool with this be thou.
God would be so good for it or if you are playing for the game
going Bilbo and you you could technically score coach them or
you could scored a field goal and then just dare them to need
at the end of the game. Yeah.
Because if you screw this up, I might resent.
Advising them to like, trying to score a touchdown.
Yeah, but that was over. There's a whole nother period to
get the tie. You got it drink up.
This isn't sock. That's true.
You got to have you over time. Throws it off the overtimes
crazy. Oh my goodness.
Um, weld Rico, we are really appreciate you hanging out
tonight. Have I think I caught wind in?
The Discord is part of your plan with some of your winnings to
purchase a home. Yeah, that's sad.
That's what we're doing in the book of it's going to be happy.
Buzzing. Which that's, that's awesome.
That's incredible. Congratulations, it's thank you
and it's if it was very nice. Am one thing that I think is
funny. So it's talking to other people
in a, in the ET, ER, Discord. And there's another guy at novel
sucks, and he said, he's a little exact same thing, and
then a tone of would be upset. Oh actually, I was in a good
spot at some point and that's literally what I don't get too,
huh? That's why it's, like, guys,
literally right down at basketball tournaments.
Just so they can purchase a, you know what, though?
But what you have earned Rico, you know, a lifetime, you know,
with with your partner of just being like, hey, I gotta do
these best ball drafts because it could be energy to this home
for a vacation. Like now you have that car.
You want a gyrich, there you go. There you go.
Um, so yes, also, just a programming, note, Pat Ben and I
were huddling earlier today to plan our five straight days of
FPC, playoff basketball coverage next week, we'll be announcing
that very shortly, but we are on Pace for five shows in five days
culminating in a drunk Friday night, build with Leone in dink
daycare. You are you ready for playoff
week or Leone? You guys are.
All right, thanks, not for sure. Sure thanks, either crying about
NBA or on team, smell the roses, so he's not, I'm ready.
I've also roped Pat into doing and ffp, see, podcast on
established yet, so he's actually has six shows.
So yeah, I've got six shows, but I was like ownership projections
last year like I gotta get his like high level.
That's that's what. I want to hear.
So, that's odd. You and Blair are booked for a
week from tonight, Wednesday, night Primetime, Boomer, opto
release party. All right.
That's brighter, that's the deal.
I've spent so much time Scottie Boomers, that I think eternity
Boomer, I'm you know, it's they close their you it's so good.
So yes, we're very much looking forward to FPC.
Playoff week I assure you. We are going deep into the lab
and we are going to To emerge with some good ideas for you
guys. So again, thank you to Leone for
joining us tonight. Draco, of course, follow him
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We will see you guys next week.