Someone sent me a DM today and they said P, what is a piss boy?
And I didn't respond, but if I did, I probably would have said
something like, I don't know, man.
You just born that way. Pat prior homos.
Anita hand job. Fix your side with your bar.
We're fucking like 70 seconds late.
You guys are already upset about this pizza like Joshua.
You don't even watch these streams normal.
You're just watching it because spaags is here, I mean spaags is
pulling Joshua and Forest spaags is of course, here my co-host on
Splash Play spaags. Welcome to ship chasing.
Well thank you. I'm finally glad to get the call
up to the main event show the one that started it.
All the one that shipped a thousand other shows that are
doing exactly the same thing much more poorly.
I'm glad to be out with you guys.
I said it before. I watch you guys every single,
Wednesday. When I'm taking care of Luke,
I'll try to try to get into your drafts.
This is take a little bit of that streamer UV if I can, but I
love the show and I, you know, I appreciate all you guys have
done kind of making me smarter. Hopefully, for this whole thing,
leave this narcissist here with the thumbnail of himself right
over his shoulder. That's what I do that for every
show and I did when I did see bsp and I put their thumbnail
back there. When I did like week, I put
their thumbnail. That's just, that's Showbiz
baby. How is it?
Thumbnail II missed it, they have a good thumbnail.
Like, it was very good. Know, here's, here's a little
thumbnail tip for everyone out there and I'm not saying I'm the
best at it, but I have made hundreds of them.
Is you just want to go more simple?
You want to make the photo as big as possible.
I think the mistake is, you don't realize that people are
going to be looking at the thumbnail behind someone
shoulder on a stream. And you can see here we got
spaags. I have that one labeled because
you labeled it for me. I know it's the spags.
Thumbnail photo there. I look completely nonplussed.
Have you ever seen a more non-plus guy in a thumbnail?
I don't think he can, I legitimately appreciate the tags
because my thumbnail folder on, my computer is just fucking
insane. Like, I have a guest folder at
my folder. That co-host I do regular shows
with Pat has his own folder. Spag says his own folder Gretch,
and it's just so sifting through all of them.
It's like, I don't want to look at these fucking reactions, just
having your labels is actually very helpful to me.
I'm glad I love it, honestly, like, I love that Pete.
I don't know. Pat.
If you've taken the way of quite, as much as I feel like
PCS and saying, prom photo for you, for every thumbnail ever,
but I think like it's fun to do these stupid faces and just
like, completely whore yourself out in the chance that somebody
will scroll through and watch your video for 30 seconds and
go. All right, that's okay.
Like that's basically what it all comes down.
Well, I had to ask Pete for a photo because I was going on her
6 Pod this week, so I needed actually to get a photo to send
over to him and we have a shared Google.
I couldn't find it in the shared Google Drive.
So I asked Pete, he's like I got him like my computer says I got.
Can you send one over? So he sends one over but it's
the one of me with long hair, the rodeo was and I was just
like, fine. I was so pissed off about that.
It's like her to go fucking. Make your own thumbnails.
I spent do, you know how many hours of my life?
I have spent crawling the internet for photos removing the
background but it's like don't fuck it.
Ask your guess this is just as bad as Liam asking their guests
for 12th. 54 the video of three entries.
Just fuckin go find your own photo.
It takes two seconds, I was so thanks Levi.
That I actually need to figure out what the deal is with this
draft that I did with her sick because he I didn't say didn't
ask me for 1250, so I was like, you know, assuming assuming
everything was fine everything. So then on Twitter, he said
something like. Well, it's gonna be so
complicated to split the winnings if we win.
So I'll just throw a big party for everyone if we shift the
million. Well, like, what if it's the
dress that we jumped in it wins the Millions?
I would rather have the money than a big party for everyone,
you droplets. I hope you like pizza and ice
cream Pat. If I could be, I'm sorry.
I he's already one of the very first stream.
They did with Leone, where he announced that Pete said, I
screw up. They get Leo.
T was so hesitant to agree to this setup.
He was like, I just want the money.
I don't want to be some party, just I know, I haven't agreed to
it. I missed that Stream.
So I think I need to be good eats this.
See if I think there's any other splitting options, what Pat?
What's going on with your setup today?
People are talking about the background, the internet seems
worse, I hear Murphy, what's the deal?
The background, and the internet are brutal.
Right now. I can't, I can't find the old
background. I had stream yard stream yard
occasionally. We'll just be like The
backgrounds who are using are now gone and then I have to have
to find it. So this download is like
extremely ancient. I don't know where I put it
also. This is a good time to shout
out. The guy on Twitter that said he
hates that ship chasing just talks like friends for the first
10 to 15 minutes of an episode before getting to the fantasy
talk. So to you good sir, a beautiful.
Fuck you. On this nice evening.
While we Preamble here before talking fantasy, I do have one
question for Pat. Did you get Background from
Warren sharp for his head. Yeah, yeah, Warren provide me
with this one. Slade wants to know where
Gracchus Gracchus in Hawaii, the the island of Maui, if I, if I
recall correctly. So yes, Gretsch will be back
next week, but I believe he's having a good trip.
Did you guys see the, the photo he posted where a fucking
chicken laid? An egg on his car?
Yeah, it's pretty amazing. It's gotta be good luck in some
culture. You gotta think, That's what I'm
thinking here. Let me look at this.
And it's funny because it shows how quickly I process
information on the internet, where I noticed the chicken, the
first time I looked. And I just kind of moved on and
then I saw everyone talking about the Egg and I was like,
oh, apparently this is a three-part story that I missed,
because there's the there and then boom an egg.
I mean, that's absolutely incredible.
That is guess. We know which one came first
now. Oh my goodness.
Um, so spags guys are family background.
Wow, there we are. We're back.
What I love about the background is how subtle the NBC Sports
edges across the TV? That's really what sells it for
you? Give me really see it when my
hair is on the way. All right?
Yeah. I'll be there were concerns.
Casey was in the chat saying, last week, we had huge technical
snafus like my draft board just basically fucking disappeared.
There were three, Pete's. And then Casey was worried.
We were bringing on a guy who didn't even know how to size the
proper stream yard window for a While those fags now that you've
been doing the solo streams, it does seem like you figured it
out. Oh yeah, I mean, I learned, I
was shamed right away, which I do think Pete.
That's one thing with our relationship is peach.
Shames me into doing things and I'm like, it's all right, if
it's for the best, I'll eventually get on board.
And I've I think I'm a pro like, actually, when I was watching
your guys stream last week, it was falling apart.
Like I was in the chat knows like I'll produce it Pete.
If you need me to give me was, give me the log in.
Give me a little access to that 4K.
You got sitting around on Underdog and I'll happily jump
on to produce for it. Sounded like 36k man, where we
are bleeding here, gonna bleed another 20, Five dollars tonight
spag. How many BBM three entries?
Are you up to now? I think I'm still at 90.
I can double-check that, but yeah, like I've been slowing it
down. I did some superflex wraps but I
knew I'm not going able to fill that one.
So I just don't see that as being a plus EV move to throw
in, you know, 20 entries into that still like a fun draft,
but, you know, it's not for me. I'm going to start spamming BBM
more, just because I don't think I'll be able to do like, 16
August. Like I know is the optimal
strategy for that barbell approach.
Like, I need to ask you some in July or I'm just gonna be behind
the eight ball. There also is this element to
and I don't want to scare the barbell Bros, but, you know, if
there's a wave of interest in best, ball has been growing in
popularity so quick. Like, there's a chance, like, a
new wave of users come in and that thing feels quicker than
you would. Otherwise imagine, I personally
wouldn't want to get caught with my pants down in that regard if
you are set on maxing it. So, I don't know, it is
something to consider you're playing a little bit of a
guessing game with how much time you'll have before it fills that
is Interesting because I'm one of those Pros.
I have think I had 42 best ball manias in and I'm planning on
slowing down over the like I work.
I'm going away over the weekend. Probably won't do any then if I
do, I feel guilty. So, you know, maybe get in like
a couple next week and then just like probably probably stop.
Maybe I'll stop around like 55 before training camp opens.
That's kind of one thing. So that's so entry because I
said, I thought the barbell was you did half of them early,
that's the tradition. Barbell, you're going with a
modified barbell, I'm gonna modify Barbara.
I'm going with a little heavier on this side.
Yeah, we got a little more power on this, a little later here,
because the way I'm thinking through it and it sounds like,
huh? It's bags is also doing a
modified barbell, so we've got, you know, he's got the, the
heavier side of the weaker left shoulder.
You gotta balance it out. Yeah, yeah.
So together we gotta like somehow combine our barbells but
I was thinking that like I didn't get as many really early
as I wanted and so I'm like, I don't know, I'm kind of pushing
some to the true late period and just hope there's a bunch of
bunch of sicko. Nonstick goes punch, a bunch of
noobs, I'm telling you, right? If you judge it by purely Badges
and experience, which isn't the end-all be-all for experience,
I'm sure there's people on this show who don't even have a
badge. But yeah, I will say, if you
time your dress like the late-night drafts, I've been
doing basically one, be bm3 draft at night like around 11:00
11:30. During I shouldn't have revealed
that fucking stay out of my drafts.
Don't know what I recognize is ever in those drafts.
Whereas when I do the afternoon draft if I'm doing the Cardio
Club or whatever, then I normally recognize some people
some more badges out in obviously, the morning drafts
to. So I do think timing, it really
helps. I've seen some weird moves from
badges though, so I don't even necessarily trike because one of
the things that I think is going on right now, at least, I've
noticed in the last, I would say more like a week ago, but this
probably still Be there seems to be like a lot of like, I know
better Bros drafting right now. So like, you know, like and a
lot of like, Get get unique Bros and I'm loving being in rooms
with get unique Pros because you get unique to, but you just
scoop value, you get to be a value hand, and you're getting
unique. So, I've been kind of a fan of
people, doing some weird, Combos, and all that stuff,
because it's like kind of helping me out by default.
That is true. It is.
That is an interesting Dynamic. And we were kind of talking
about this, I can't even remember.
Maybe it was lulls, maybe it was full cast, but about this idea
of where we found certain edges, but maybe we push the edges too
far to where there's diminishing returns, you know, with the
correlation stuff. And I think that's an
interesting thing of like, how far do you push it?
And I've noticed in my drafts lately, like getting the
correlations I really want, has been harder.
And so, I've decided to kind of Some of the extreme correlations
for just value in getting the structures I want.
And I don't know, I'm curious to see if that pendulum swings back
in August. You know, when more casuals are
prioritizing correlation but I don't know.
It feels like we just have this Groundswell of people who are
going to continue Drafting and there's always going to be some
of the correlation, you know, I know better Bros in there.
But do you really think that many people are pushing
correlation amongst casuals because I feel like the Casual
to me. Like they're pushing a lot of
stuff that I, you know, some of the bills that I was talking
about that just don't make a ton of sense and I think it's
something I learned early in DFS is like, you know, you double
stack because in like a weekly tournament because people aren't
going to double stack enough and that's going to be no more
likely to Bubble Up Your lineup, and you have to make people
prove it. And I feel like it's me with
best of all. I don't think there's enough
people that are actually going to step up and prove it just
like, you know, and these rooms like that you guys can do
tonight. Everybody's really sharp.
So they'll try to correlate. They'll double stack will do all
that stuff. But in terms of regulars, like,
especially if your draft on DraftKings and wherever else out
there, like I just don't buy that people actually doing it
enough. No, I actually think like the
moves I'm talking about the badges, kind of doing the get
unique, in the end of better stuff.
I think they are building like correlated teams and, you know,
like structures that generally makes I've seen some stuff that
doesn't make sense, but those are from from different
drafters. I think, but, in some ways, I
feel like, then it's easier to correlate yourself.
Like, if everyone's kind of, or a certain amount of people are
on the correlation train, then it becomes I think maybe a
little easier to correlate yourself because they're kind of
staying out of your way. Like they're trying to do their
thing, you're trying to do your thing.
When I'm over on DraftKings, I've been dropped in a lot on
DraftKings, as well. Like, you're like, what the fuck
are you doing, dude? Like what it look like, why did
you take, like, you to this guy's like taking, you know, Joe
burrow like way ahead. ATP doesn't have any doesn't
have a bangle. Here's like, ah, you know, you
think you have something set up and they come in and do
something wacky and those I think are kind of just people
who aren't that great. This boy is my opinion.
So DK is much softer than Underdog in general.
So, I wonder if in the late summer, like early September
period. I wonder if we're going to get
sniped, you're going to have like some of those teams that
are like, almost that perfect team, you've been trying to
build all summer, got the perfectly correlated thing and
then someone swoops in and steals Russell Wilson or
whatever. Yeah and I just yeah it is like
once you kind of come to peace with like if I don't get the
perfect stack that I want with the, you know, the in a perfect
world, I get the it's so it is so freeing and you do realize in
almost every scenario there is some kind of out.
There is some kind of way to piece together a logical team
after that. And I just personally find that
fraying of like, if it falls to me, it falls like I did a draft.
I posted today. I didn't get Chargers wide,
receiver early. Lee Keenan Allen or Justin
Herbert fell to me in the mid Fifth and he's normally never
there. I had Cooper cop, so I didn't
mind that correlation and I was so tempted.
Josh Palmer went like 30 picks ahead of ATP.
So I'm like, what kind of backdoor stack options?
Do I have here? So, I'm like really resting on
Gerald Everett and I thought about reaching for him, like 15
picks ahead of ATP, and I was like, no, fuck it.
I refuse to do it. He does fall to me.
And I ended up just doing a skinny stack with Herbert.
And those are like, kind of the things where I'm just like, I'm
just not going to force it. I'm not going to take Jalen - my
wide receiver. Yeah, I was gonna slow R&B
build. Like I'm just, I'm just not
gonna force it. Yeah.
I know.
I'm with you there. One thing I've been doing is
like, if you, if you like take, I don't know.
Let's say you get, you know, you get Andrews early but then you
come around and it makes sense to grab, like, Marquis brown or
whatever else, let's say, marquis Brown.
So now you've set yourself up for Kyler so if you don't get
Lamar so you can push it with more with Lamar and then you can
get you kind of build in like I'll build in like backup
potential stacks and then push it a little bit more of the
quarterback. And then I was can go kind of to
the next core back on the list. If that doesn't end up working
out, it's backed. I remember saying this to you on
one of our Splash play streams where one thing I think a lot
about if I do miss out on those Elite quarterbacks is like all,
you know make sure I get a Garret Wilson or a Jameson
Williams or a kenyala day, just knowing that those back.
Stack options are there for you? Just kind of giving yourself
extra outs at quarterback and then you don't have to panic as
much. You could Darius Tony.
I feel like it's one that's a bailout for me.
I know Aaron Rodgers. I was talking.
I gotta if there's a drinking game out there for this as well
Draco. My Pal, I've talked about with
Aaron Rodgers being kind of the bailout Cube you can get to you
because you can stack, then take Watson at a decent ATP.
You could take your walk ins at something in between, you could
take your shots on dubs or Amari Rogers late as the 18th round,
basically. So like, I like the bailout QB
process. The thing that Tells me the most
I was like when I've set up a stack perfectly, where it's
like. God, do you go after ATP got
killed after a teepee and it simply takes freelance for no
reason. Like, they don't have a youth,
didn't have any reason to do it. They're doing it, just cause
it's like, I like this guy and that's because there's some
amount of my like, yeah, that's all good stuff.
That's what him. That's what happened to that by
Josh Palmer guy, today. Where I was, like, I put Josh
Palmer in the queue like, literally 50 picks ahead, ATP
because I was like, I need to get some Chargers here.
And he goes like 58. I go to look at this guy's team.
I'm like, This had to have just been because of a Josh Norris,
like tweet in video public that joshjpalmer, like there's no
other logical reason to do this. What the fuck are you doing?
I know I heard Josh was talking up Palmer on the GTR podcasts
and that's that's one of the guys we talked about as a
potential Riser. So it's starting already.
We're not. What do you think Palmer very
soon? Well, yeah.
You I listen to that podcast to what did you think of Silva's?
Take about Palmer, not being that fast and how badly that
team needs some speed in the wide.
Or do you buy into that kind of thing in?
That Palmer might lose a decent amount of snaps to gaytan?
I could see it. I mean that that's why guidance
had the career. He's had like, literally he's
just a field stretcher, he doesn't really draw any Target
so I could see that joshjpalmer. That was a deep threat in
college. I don't remember what he ran,
but he, that was like What He specialized in his whole college
career, basically, Spags. What do you do in your, your
charger Stacks? I actually don't have a ton of
Herbert so I'm always like kind of feeling it out and I kind of
just have been stubborn on not reaching 14 in and Mike Williams
with my Cooper Cup teams just because I know so many people
are doing it. But how have you been
approaching that? So I, it's weird.
Like, I end up getting a lot of the charger stack.
Like, before all the atp's came up when I was really spamming
early, best Ball Mania drafts. So, I got a good amount of Alan
and then Herbert and also Cooper cup and Mike Williams Because
way that those ATP is were before they kind of got a little
more rational with just the Chargers offense being that
good. So I kind of got my exposure
early on. I really am trying not to draft
cubies too much in the first five rounds because I do think
there's a tweet for one of the fantasy football or guys today
talking about the wind rates of QBs and and like all these
top-ups over the last five years have been disappointments
recording to, you know, like them, being drafted, High ATP
and you could probably get some more production, the sixth frown
or up to the 13th round, I guess where I'm usually trying to
draft. So like I think I got my
discounts already that I'm not trying to push it.
Now that these guys were up So much baby in the superflex
rafts. You get a little more of a taste
there but I kind of feel like I got the premium stack like I
don't need to try to chase it a little bit more if you like and
I got it a high enough rate, where was the the intimately
quarterback stuff? It was a it was one of the it
was that guy. The the doctor guy of fantasy
footballers. He eats tweeted earlier today.
I don't really know because he follows me as Pete knows.
If you follow me, then you automatically soar through my
rankings of analysts verified handle and follows me.
I'm right there, but it's happy whatever.
As over Advantage. Yeah, if you have produced One
Piece of content in fantasy and you follow spags, you're in the
running to be Lucas. Godfather is basically it's a QB
1 ATP. According to best ball tens of
their win rate and is from Matthew bets at the fantasy.
PT 2021 patchable Holmes, had a 9% win rate, which was ten
twenty twenty Lamar Jackson out of 4.1%. 38 Pat Mahomes 4.2%
33rd so I kind of just goes through it all and I thought was
interesting case and this one that I've been thinking was
right based on just playing around a lot on the road of his
Explorer for Oscar construction. So ending the kind of a forms of
thing. I'm already thinking, I'm like,
yes you must you must have nailed this because I think it
It's also interesting to think of a drug.
I mean the other thing about some of that data to write is
the quarterback. Landscape is so massively
changed over the past couple years and obviously now the
elite quarterback Windows got pushed up more, we see people
reaching for their Stacks early you know the Kelsey drafter the
digs draft or they're like they're getting Mahomes, they're
getting getting Alan there and then the other Dynamic is like
what used to be our Edge as late-round quarterback guys.
Identifying these guys with Russian potential.
Slowly evaporated. And last year, we saw Jalen
hurd's got way pushed up because that was the guy.
We collectively id'd as maybe slightly Miss price relative to
his upside this year. Now, it's Trey Lance and we all
agree. He still probably like around
and a half or two rounds. Miss price, he's still a little
under priced, but that those are like some of the like remaining
edges like, think about last year with some of the rookie
cubies, we pushed up, I mean, who from after Trail ants goes
like, who's getting pushed up based on perceived ceiling like
everyone. Seems pretty efficiently valued
after that. There are cars, should go up a
little. I feel like just based on that
division, based on the talent around him.
Like I think if there are good like training camp reports, I
think from the Raiders like to me they're the best AFC West
Dark Horse bet like you're going to take one Futures but maybe
that's my hot take that I'll be right about in the can do the
Victory Parade like a peacock afterwards for my ship chasing
calls, but I think Derek Carr is like so sneaky.
And he'll go sometimes like in the 120s and it just feels like
it's unfair. You know, people do the like you
can't draft all of these receivers and not drop the
quarterback stuff. Yeah.
And generally I don't really buy and stuff but I I think I'm have
a similar take words like we can't be high on the Raiders and
I own the Patriots. Like either Josh McDaniels
matters or he doesn't because the Patriots are replacing him
with Joe judge and Matt Patricia.
So like, no, they're not, they're not replacing Josh
McDaniels. So I think either Raiders are
going to be awesome. For the Raiders are going to be
kind of, whatever in the Patriots.
Will be fine. For the Raiders will be awesome,
and Patriots will be a fucking disaster.
And I will suggest to clarify. What I was saying, is like the
chats tossing out quarterback names that I like I see Daniel
Jones. I see golf.
I see Mac Jones, like I like all these guys, but I'm just saying,
I don't think they're being pushed up to an extreme like
hope IAM level. Like I feel like they're
efficiently price. Whereas last year like Jalen
hurts, we id'd him as the guy with massive upside Yeah, and he
got really massively steamed up relative to what he had
previously done. I just think the quarterback
Market has gotten so efficient. Yeah, I feel like the there's
some upside being sucked out a little bit of Kirk Cousins to
me, like, I'm not really drafting any Kirk Cousins
tonight and I wish I could, oh, that feels to me, like maybe
he's a bit overpriced. Yeah, I could see that.
I mean, aren't people people are getting excited about this
Vikings offense. Chris G, sorry I didn't respond
to your DM yet but Chris was starting to get excited about a
little Dalvin cook action. I know people are excited about
maybe this offense being a bit different this year.
Are you guys buying into that at all?
I mean I would think it's a fair take ya coming with an offensive
coach with the Rams pedigree like that's why you hire these
guys for the most part I'm I guess LaFleur be the one
exception though. He ended up being a little more
often so we minded then he looked like when he first I'd
hired but I think you have to be in the spot.
Like you hire the offense of geniuses because you want the
offense you better. And they were wallowing with the
Mike Zimmer teams for so long that you.
I think that's always the NFL team ways.
You go the opposite direction and hope that that guy really
drives the other side of the ball and I like, you know,
Justin Jefferson's talking. He's saying all the things that
I love to hear somebody who reaches for improbable too much
and probably just take some every time that I possibly can
because he's talked about wanting to be a Hall of Famer.
Like he was already a monster last year with this offense,
that we have some question marks about.
So I think if he's good like I probably don't take enough to
Alvin I'm sure by a wide margin but Jefferson I feel like could
be like Cooper Cup this year and maybe even break some records
like wouldn't be crazy. I'm taking a lot of Jefferson.
The one thing I don't like about the Vikings I guess I'm frozen.
The one thing I love about the Vikings is that the Earth Smith
price because like the argument for herb Smith is that like he
might like he could be anything. Even Tyler higbee, but he goes
three rounds ahead of Tyler higbee like what why are we just
dropped? Ting Tyler.
Higbee, he's in the better offense and like, no, I don't
think anyone at this point is like that high on Earth, Smith's
Talent, his basically like basically he came in really
young, which is why we were excited about and he hasn't
really done anything yet and now we're excited because, like the
often should take a step forward and he's like, a clear every
down tight end I, which I agree with.
But like They might take a step forward, there's so many worse
than the Rams and Tyler. Higbee is also a clear every day
outside. And so I don't understand why
higbee's price where he is. And as a result, they don't
understand where her Smith is so far ahead of them.
I think for both Everett and higbee who are going in the same
range, it was like this thing where, you know, people I feel
like any player who's drafted at a certain price point and then
doesn't deliver on that ATP just a player whose burned drafters,
like just Naturally because of recency bias isn't going to get
drafted relative to probably their true projection.
I feel like this is one of the last remaining edges is like
guys who burned people the year before, which is why Julio is
free. It's why I will Fuller is free
while will Fuller, you know, it's disappeared from the face
of the Earth so that might Factor.
If you guys started the the Herzig until and will Fuller.
Yeah. Did you hear he was talking to
so Jason Herzog ran into Sean Kaiser and add an mft party that
night in end of tea party. Yeah, party.
I can't remember which And so it he asked him about will Fuller
and he Kaiser was like, yeah, he has been like they wanted him to
go to Green Bay for like the last two seasons and he won't go
because he hates playing in the Colts, he's hates living in the
cold. So he just like won't go to
Green Bay including I guess this year.
So you know you got a draft Julio with your with your free
agent. Green Bay steps?
Do you know what? So like that like you why play
with one of the best quarterbacks in history yet?
Like, I don't want to be cold. Yeah, I can't play with either,
and it also makes sense, right? Like, he went from Houston to
Miami and this is why this is how sick my brain is.
When I was doing that. Drafted a with the Herbert one,
where I didn't take gaytan and I see Fuller there.
And so I have these two things, I hear I have silver in my head
telling me that the Chargers desperately need speed, and
that's why they might use Guyton.
And then I have in my head to shown Kaiser say that will
Fuller doesn't want to play in the cold.
I'm like, fuck it. Fuller to La.
See one time, let's nail this stack before it happens.
Yeah, I looked up Palmer's 40 at a 45 to.
So some of us very right about the speed thing.
I wonder the fun thing with with the charges.
What if there is Slayton goes there?
There's lighting gets cut or trade it because it can talk
about it sighs. Everything's legit the fast.
Well did this bags is raised his eyebrows because so spaags and
I've been doing Splash play now for a couple of years.
In our first year, I'm Splash play we do this ride or die
segment where we kind of you know the basically the ET R
equivalent of a flag plant for these games.
Games and I just basically Martingale the shit out of
Darius Layton for an entire season where I was like, what
are these weeks? He's gonna get to touch doubts.
Those facts. How many times did I select
area? Slayton as my ride-or-die?
It had to be over ten, like, I think probably over 13 or 14.
I don't think he came through one time.
I don't think he did either in to the point where I was
drafting him, you know, because you could get them for free and
BBM 3 and then Greg wash in the ship.
Chasing Discord was like, by the way, here's this blurb about
Darius late and maybe Even making the team and Richie James
is. Now the guy you want is the deep
fryer. So I was like, thank you Greg.
I got another I got another free agent prediction.
Okay or not free agent like this would be a trait but all right.
DeShaun Watson, they're talking about indefinite suspension.
The NFL that's their position Watson.
Apparently starting to his negotiating position is 0%.
Feel like, you know, I get what you're trying to do there but I
I think that's the move. So you know, could see an entire
season suspension for Deshaun Watson pretty easily.
That kind of changes things for the Browns and some important
ways. Then we could see another
suspension come down six games for Alvin Kamara about Kareem
hunt to the Saints. That'd be pretty fun when we get
to Ernest, Johnson unlocked. So instead of taking late,
ground marking, or what, if you, what if he really Galaxy?
Bring this, don't take Mark, Ingram take during his Johnson
because cream. Hunts moving out of town.
This is like Ida is the Mega gal do but I do enjoy it.
I love we talked about it. On swole cast today too because
I was saying how hunt deer in his Johnson are two of my
favorite pics right now because you have that out, I mean, all
the reports make it seem like one of those guys is going to
get traded and it's like either of those guys gets removed.
The other one becomes a really good value on the Browns and the
one who gets traded, probably Binks a pretty sick situation
like hunt to the Saints, right? Under the seat is perfect.
Yes. Bags, have you been drat?
Like how have you been handling the Chimera stuff?
Because I've seen some draft boards.
I know in the deposit Kingdom, Discord, the best ball Channel.
I think someone got him at like, pick 42 earlier today.
I mean, he's really sliding and drafts.
Do you think he's gonna fall further with the suspension news
or that that actually represents a buying opportunity?
Well, I think you've said before, peed, on some of the
show's weather is the ones that we've done or in general.
Like with your thinking that to come our ATP is already
accounting. For the fact, you might miss a
few games, but I think even the conservative estimate would have
been Like three games. I didn't think six was
necessarily on the table, so to meet him going a little bit.
Lower makes sense. I think, you know, I'm loathe to
take any running back in an adverse situation, Kumar has
gotten more than enough touches over the last few years and I
think, you know, there that offense, we've seen get weird in
the past with, you know, if there's a running QB in there,
like, would taste of Hill was in there, tomorrow is basically
rendered useless, Jamis isn't going to run, but I still think
there's enough chance for things to just break strangely in that
backfield. That like, I'm always careful
taking a Mark Ingram, I'm always comfortable taking this this 4D
chess, that Pat's, huh? Talking about, with one of the
Cleveland backs. Good luck.
I think. Always you're going to do better
leveraging against somebody else.
Taking a high pick up Kamara and now there's been what a month
and a half two months of people taking Kamara and the top 30
sometimes reaching for him, that I'm willing to take like The
Leverage play against them and just hope that he doesn't play
it all somehow. Or that something really goes
weird there. Yeah.
Sorry to step on your point about how good those guys are.
But I think during this end hunt are both awesome.
Yeah, well and that's the thing too.
It's like it. That's why Mark Ingram is such a
tough, click for me, right? Because I trust me, I'm on board
with the contingent upside but it's like I all I don't know.
I just you things through the lens of.
Can this guy deliver me Spike weeks even like we can even
extend the window Beyond week 17.
Let's say like weeks 14 through 17.
It's just like I have such a hard time.
Imagining Mark, Ingram Being a late-season hammer for the
Saints but maybe I'm being narrow-minded on it.
I mean, he was last year, wasn't he?
Like it was last year? Yeah, I don't remember seeing
him on any winning rosters. I don't need that.
Three yards. Yes, the chat we're not going to
talk about this until this happens.
We're not going to talk about it until it happens.
Um, all right, we're gonna hop in the BBM 3 draft in a sec
before we do spaags, tell us. So You and I have drafted a
bunch of teams on Splash by you guys.
If you don't watch that that's over on my channel we do that
show Mondays and Thursdays at 2:30 p.m.
Eastern. We've been going full ship
chasing that. All we do is draft now and it's
it's great. But spaags is now branched out.
He started to do some solo streams on Friday.
Afternoons, on the splash play Channel, which I link to down
below spaags would be forever grateful.
I would be forever grateful. We could get that to 1000 Subs
but spags what I was going to ask you is what have you Earned
going from just a guy who drafts on stream with me to being an
idiot solo streamer and I say that one thing myself into it.
Where people are hunting the Evie?
What has it been like making that transformation?
I've never going to do the woe is me thing because, like, it's
great that we get to do is great that we had to have a few beers
and like, you know, like this is like our careers and we're doing
and we're all doing, you know, varying degrees of well then.
I guess I'll put myself in the low end of that but like I feel
like that's a great thing. That's said it's really hard to
draft and do a show. It's really hard to.
Aft and build a good team and do a show.
And I feel like that's the one thing I've never fully
appreciated about you. Like we've been doing the show
for years if you talked about and like you know, mostly doing
a lot of DFS stuff and I've always watched piton, best ball
shows producing and doing the draft and carrying conversations
and all that and even know what. It's just me managing the chat
now in the Friday shows, I'm like, wow, these teams are
appreciably worse than I would do if I'm just working out, even
if I'm feeding the baby with, like, an auto pick coming in,
like they're all worse time and time again, it's a combination
of people like scoop and picks that.
I I talked about or scooping something that like, they know
I'm trying to do or just being smart and I'm not getting the
random idiots, I'll get it on one p.m. draft or whatever or
you know, drunk draft at night. So that's the kind of thing that
like, I haven't been ready to was like, I have to sacrifice
like it's literally a write-off to do a stream.
I feel like if you're doing an actual entry on the show, Yeah I
mean I wrestle with that for sure as far as you know you do
end up with some weird rooms you build some interesting teams.
But yeah I mean in a I've told you this is why I did my private
stream the other night because like I wanted to do was show
where I could talk through some spots without having to juggle
so many things because it is known, feel sorry for us having
to juggle multiple legs. But it is hard to draft and in
check in on the chat for sure. And that's why you see two like
a lot of the same. Names.
And it's guys, that like are pretty sharp and know what to
do. And I think also know how to
work amongst the confines of like, oh, here's what they're
saying on the show. Like I'm gonna go this way then,
so I won't even interfere with them, but I'll get a nice little
lane for myself to make some pics.
And you know, it's kudos to those Grinders are always in
every stream draft, but I actually appreciate it.
What do you got going on here? P0?
The yeah, this is the brick. The brick Sports HUD and the the
draft caddy overlay here. Do you need any other beta
testers for this? Yeah, we do.
We do see that's funny because Pat, I would say you're an
influential guy like in terms of this show in terms of the NBC
thing brick reached out to me and offered me a hook-up, he did
not. So I would think that that brick
didn't give you that. No, no.
I will say, brick actually asked me today is like, you know
anyone else who has an influence who you know, the underdog
algorithm is waited to give them a disproportionate amount of 10
once and I saw my buddy, Peck her age.
Yeah. What the underworld?
Olga algorithm. About that place because I'm
getting every time I log in, I'm just, like, just anything.
One of five or better. Please.
It's like. How about the 109?
I like Ira. I legitimately half as a bit
half, not as a bit, just deleted.
The post that dude never posted in the ship chasing Discord with
my, with my 101 and 12 rates. I was just like, we just need to
get this off the screen. What's what are the numbers that
now? I don't know?
Dude are can figure out. The sad thing is is do better.
Only has some of my data from like the Public streets, he has
it even I bet he would posting by Underdog Cardio, Club drafts
the past three of all bed top 5 picks.
I was like here we go Underdog 19.
Thank you, thank you. No, you only get the bed pics
when I'm, I think my mojo is more powerful with my bad picks,
because anytime I'm on with you, it's still, it's still like a
100 to 110 111. That's right.
Hey, we got the 105 in our upcoming Main Event, though, we
did. Yeah, I mentioned that in the
ship chasing Discord. Gretch Pat and I are signed up
for our first, slow Main Event draft on FPC of the year, that's
going to kick off. July 4th is crazy, that that's
just in a few days. We got the 105 which I feel like
on ffp, see the kind of probably Elite tier extends to six with
Kelsey, but I feel really good about that spot spaags.
Welcome to ship chasing draft. This is your board you get to
make the decision. What do you do?
Derrick Henry, looking pretty good.
I would say. I would take either C D Lambda
Travis Kelce personally, but you know, you guys are the experts.
What do you think? Pat?
I like Kelsey. Yeah, I just need to go back and
actually look at what the fuck just happened here.
That was, so we go. I guess it's not that crazy.
It's just Adams, it has data. Adams is the only pick?
All right. It looks, it looks more
startling than I, than I thought.
It's, I'm Derrick Henry staring you in the face.
It's just, like, what have I done to deserve this?
Because I don't think I have a single share Derrick, Henry and
I can't imagine, I will the entire time to stop us fight.
Um, shout out to the Multiverse where all of these alternate
reality ship chasing drafts are none of the benefits of getting
glory on stream and all of the negatives battling like-minded.
Rafter sounds like a great time guys.
Wow, Mike Evans and Devo Samuel at the turn.
There this is. This is a full-blown Avalanche
boys. It's coming in hard to CD lamb.
All right, so we have no, fuck me, dead Pat, we get married
Pat. If we had taken a wide receiver
with our first big, I would maybe indulge that for longer
than I would indulge this, but know that we will get absolutely
buried if we take nausea, keep Davis wide receiver.
What? AJ Broncos next it's a you got
it Us in the right direction P now I can't believe Pat someone
clip Pat floating naxi there. I mean God noted Nagi truth.
I was even hesitant to take Kelsey just knowing the Apple I
was to a little bit but what were we?
I guess lamb we should play a member so early for lamp.
Yeah yeah I know I like lamb. I'm too.
So I wasn't going to force that one too hard.
Kelsey Higgins or lamb Andrews that's that's the TV to yeah.
Although I would say No, because you're probably looking at lamb
AJ brown, right? I would maybe just punt because
I just the tide in values, are still, you have a couple other
out there, okay? Like, in this draft, I don't
know. I guess the question is in this
draft. Could you get Kittle or Waller
at pick 40? You can get kid'll there, for
sure. Yeah, in a normal job.
Now, with these, I don't think it'll take time before it kills
can fall into the late fourth, and early fifth.
I don't know. We'll see.
Hey Siobhan says that the Avalanche is little bit here and
I know so sometimes I get a little cocky with the Avalanche.
I'm like I've skied through so many of these I could take.
Nosy, I had to, I feel like see that's why I was excited to have
spaags on because spags has been fully radicalized as his your I
sometimes have to push bags into taking running backs but I've
noticed in the ship chasing rooms.
I think I told Gretchen one time I was like we can't take
Jonathan today we have to take Cooper cup and then I just had
to, you know, vaudevillian slap you out of Nigeria.
To why take nausea Harris. Now, when you could take Benny
Snell and the 18th for free and this is like the 101 whole is
just set up for such Max Payne and they just they have no idea
what's coming? Oh, they're they're getting
brutalized that don't want your a buried your Barry.
I'm so sorry. Ivy's stirring the obituary.
It's supposed to be exciting to get the 101 but you just wrote
your death sentence. God poor guy, Jihad dots is
going to be looking real attractive in the sixth round
for you. What are we looking at here?
I feel like a lot more green this round than I they thought
we might get. I think we're gonna get like a
normal late. Third round receiver here.
Yeah holy cow. What a bottle or DJ more.
Have we corrected? I think I think we got to still
keep skiing. This middle part is where you
can get tripped up. No and that ya know that we
definitely are skiing. We are slaloming is that a word?
Jalen waddle General model. Here, Jalen W, pag ziddi other
are you can take Alvin Kamara starts to buy that.
Dip. No way.
We're taking cream hunt now, right?
He's the do starting running back for the states.
Um, let's see here. Yeah, what happened to our, our
Avila? It did really kind of correct.
After the first round, or first AJ, Brown here went what?
Like eight picks ahead of where he normally goes?
Yeah, yeah. And Mike Evans went in the
second round. Keenan, Allen went the second
Marquis Brown going early, third.
I mean, it's still a pretty weird draft, but somehow we got
left. What it is?
It just goes to show you. So the draft I did this morning
from or this afternoon from the Four Hole.
I started cup Samuel T Higgins and all those guys were God by
pick 16 in this trap. I had a Jonathan Taylor t.
Higgins Brown start the other day.
That was pretty fun. Yeah.
Let's see here. Yeah.
So this will be some be an interesting spot here coming
back. I'm surprised that pits went
that early but tight ends will still be available coming back
to us because like pits I feel like if he falls then usually
Waller and Kittle fall but pits going early and those guys not
going yet surprises me. Yeah that's interesting.
That's why I was torn about the Kelsey pick because in this room
I actually liked it pack because I thought Waller and kid'll
could go earlier than usual. Yeah.
If Waller is available to us
here I'll be like bomber that would have been nice.
You know the wohlers this it's not like a crazy good deal on
Waller. It's just gonna worry normally
goes yeah. Let's see here.
I mean one move I guess I'll head wait.
Well what's the guy drafting at 43 is?
He is ship Chaser. Doesn't look like look like it.
Yeah, I was thinking maybe Mahomes get the stack built in
and like it's not quite as Avalanches, we were worried.
It might be What? Yeah, the only other I mean, do
you i-i've been like in my head feeling?
Like there's I was going to say deante Johnson but there's a
little tear break there. I'm down for Mahomes.
What do you think spaags? What would you do here?
Otherwise I'd say about homes are Judy for the Kelsey bring
back. Yeah.
What do you think?
I mean there's a chance. I mean it looking so we would
still be live for burrow and then this would also open us up
for Russ to I kind of like pushing it.
What do you think that I'm a good push it.
All right, let's get another wide receiver here and just give
us some out. Wait I'm okay I was like what?
There's obviously no chance Mahomes Falls to us there.
Like if we were in the middle, maybe that is a little more
viable. But I kind of I kind of like the
idea of keep hammering there. Yeah, I like I think we'll set
up pretty well for I guess what? Russ where is rusting to go late
7th, might be a bit optimistic for him, right?
Yeah. So he's been going pick 77 so
that does put us in a little interesting Zone.
I mean we see here a Josh Allen team.
I think we'll be able to kind of look at these teams and see if
they would take Russ here and if we'd be able to get him, Or no.
Sorry, would be coming back. The other way.
Hmm. Who's got Sutton something?
Went pretty early, right? Yeah.
You want me to third or something?
Yeah, something went to Team 6 here.
There we go. Yeah, yeah.
I thought Judy might go ahead a sudden it's gone very much the
other way. Yeah, it's kinda interesting.
Yeah. All right.
Tim Patrick could kind of take some of what Sutton does, right?
Like, or I mean Handler could to like there's a lot of guys, you
could take that deep ball rust, forcing it to him, just because
he wants to in can now like I worry, I like something a lot,
but I worry about him going this High because he's getting
steamed up a lot. He is.
Yeah, yeah. And you think about generally
like the auto, my God? Team Chestnut.
No matter what room you're in. Now, you got the whole of this
correlation though, with Javonte Williams.
So, it's the week 17 alive and well, oh, I'm sure that was
exactly their thought process with the Mahomes was the Mahomes
Javonte Williams, that's super strongly because nobody, it is
interesting on the Sutton and Judy stuff because you think
about how the market processes like ambiguity in certain
situations in the fact. And I get At one of Duty or
Sutton will be whatever the nominal you know, wide receiver,
one in Denver. But man you are paying an
expensive premium on that for both of those guys.
Yeah you are yeah, Judy still very expensive for for that
level of uncertainty because like, where were Cooper and
woods going and like we also we knew those guys were like locked
into full-time roles. Are they going a little bit
later? Then both setting in Judy.
They like yeah, 45 turn. I want to say I the problem is
is like the FPC. ATP is more seared into my head
from Main Event crab season. I actually don't really
remember. How that was set up there.
This this draft kind of leveled out, though.
It's a position Ali here. So what do you what do you like
here spags? Not Zeke.
I would say you could talk me and Acres or Montgomery I
wouldn't I wouldn't mind. Take one of the wide receivers
that aren't Amari Cooper. I guess so Mooney or Juju would
be of that. I think I'm the same.
Well I think we could go Zeke just as like he's 8:26 EP is
basically a modified 0. He had a walk away entirely
couldn't have his hands on the driving.
I'm so sorry, spags. I'm so sorry.
But like, I mean, it was Pete's fault.
Pete had the choice to make a something that wasn't Zeke when
Tony powered. Gives you gotta be there at some
point, I don't know. I feel like with these drafts,
if you get, if you get like a God damn it.
I hate drafting Zeke, but you know, No guys, this is a funny
thing. You get, you on ship chasing.
I can sometimes be the RV guy. The meanwhile like fucking
Twitter. Cific a meltdown like this
fucking Twitter with literally, just have the fucking hardest,
react, erection ever. If they just got zika, pick 50s
Twitter's like, can't believe where zika is going normally,
they don't 26:53. This was the question I asked
buying for today on swole cast into me.
This is what's interesting about Zeke and I think you can make
good cases in either direction. Do you think not where we got
him but his current ADP, do you think Zeke gets more expensive
cheaper or stays the same you know, six weeks from now.
Morris, I would think cheaper because Pollard's going to keep
coming up, I think they're going to get, but it's gonna be like a
single Terry cook, but a little bit more extreme version.
See, that's where I played The Devil's, Advocate on the spag
side that like if we get these really positive Pollard blurbs,
like, he's working in way more. This community is already.
Clearly want wanted to prioritize and devalue Zeke.
I don't know. I could see it going either way
only though, because the drafters communities here there.
These two communities and one of them loves each, we're on the
clock, hang on. Let me go back here.
Um I've probably do a live show more here.
Yeah I'm good with that. We could take Borough.
This is probably a chance to get.
Oh you're right we could do Borough.
I still hmm. Did it hurts?
Go Hertz is gone. I would, I would maybe say, bro,
but I'm okay. Mom, what do you think spaags
break this tie? I like Borough here.
I've got, let's get it. I mean, the issue is like, you
know, I guess a buffalo running back will probably be our bring
back for the week 17 correlation, but I got no mind
that. Some of those are going, well,
too fast for me to feel comfortable and I hate getting
scooped and every good kyuubi. Yeah.
Yeah cuz lost would be a dog to make it back.
Yeah, yeah. But know what I was going to say
Pat is it, is this, you know, there are casuals who and I've
even seen the tweets, I think like Silva's, quote, retweet
them were like, why don't you have zika as a first round pick?
Like there's a lot of people that are going to crawl out of
their hole and be like, wait seeks the starting Cowboy or
running back for the Cowboys, why isn't he a first-round?
Pick Underdog drafters it pushed him down very far.
And that's why I just think there's a really interesting
push-pull there with how Zeke is has value.
I would put a decent amount of money that Zeke's ATP increases
because and then there's a couple forces in his favorite
one is that yeah. More casuals coming in, for
name, brand value. Also, you know, like Hayden and
Josh are talking about and they don't seem at all tilted by
this, by the way, that, that the running back, the running backs
are, like, cheaper than you would expect on a half, PPR
format, but I think generally it's like, you know, the people
that are drafting really heavy right now prefer to I'm a wide
receiver in the flex are kind of playing for that Spike week
upside from the wide receivers. But I think that's going to
change is more casuals come in that tend to kind of play more
toward the way. Half Point PPR is normally done
right. You so we should see the running
backs in general. I think there a TPS moving up so
it won't just be Zeke. And then like the other thing
is, like Zeke, specifically we saw last year.
His ATP was kind of at the late first and kind of early part of
draft season and moves up into the top-5.
Five of, you know, like August drafts.
So I mean he was in discussion is like what the 102, right?
So I kind of feel and I and the other things like we're also
getting we're seeing sake, ones, ATP, move up.
We're seeing kind of like start to have like a little bit of
collective Amnesia about some of the specifics of last season as
the summer progresses and we kind of come back to some of the
name brand stuff. And so, I mean, some of its
good. I think some of it's like we
start to forget the Scenarios that were very much 2021 related
and start to think a little bit more about how things will play
out going forward. And I think some of that's good
but I also think solve it gets a little bit.
Overly tied to the guys with name brand value.
I think say quads moving up because of like the slot
receiving reports and stuff like that.
And like the start of a belief, people think that this is gonna
be a good version of the bills offense now, because there's
enough guys there from that organization.
Now, we're in every possible spot of the Giants org.
So like, I think, That's why I like I like it's a name-brand
thing. The Zeke part to me is just I
don't know, like I think there's so many ways that could run bad
for him, just that I don't have that Faith.
But I think for our bill that made sense, we can take CD lamb
early. So we're basically saying, hey,
see, Lambs, going to have something wrong with them.
He's not be as good as people think.
Once way, one way that happens, is more touchdowns for Zeke.
So he made sense for us. I don't think he makes sense for
the general drafting populace. Yeah, and we do.
Yeah. I'm not drafting in much.
We're going to find ourselves in a weird spot here.
This is a classic ship, chasing draft for all the running backs.
Look like the best pick and yet, we probably don't want to be
taking a running back here. Birdie, guys see in Berks.
Yep. Yeah, Burke's is fine. it's a
little earlier than we normally want to do it, but Fuck it.
Yeah, I mean, I guess we're still getting.
I'm only a couple pics past ADP here, which isn't too insane.
And, of course, people do forget that the Cowboys do, in fact,
play the Tennessee Titans and week 70.
You get the correlation is undervalued because it's
Thursday Night Football. People don't want the Thursday
night game. They want their late-night
Hammer, they want Cincinnati buffalo on Monday but you could
easily win all the million dollars on his debut.
That's that's the the me my she thinks.
He's thinking about other girls but he's actually thinking about
how he wishes he had the week 17 correlation hammer and not the
Thursday night football. What did that'll be so amazing?
If that is the game because crack rocks Victory lap on
needing the money. And I hammer what?
It delivers the PBM three winner.
Wait, what is crack rocks thing? Crack rocks thing is.
You always play the guy from Monday night like I need to
break ties. You always play the Monday night
guy because you have the hammer. Yeah, like me.
But then Translating that to needing to draft, leaving to
stack up the very last game of the tournament.
So you have the hammer would be. So that's a new level.
Yeah. What.
Who is the Monday night game that week?
Cincinnati Buffalo it. So it is Cincinnati, Buffalo.
Look like a store, like a snow storm hitting be like, oh, I
can't wait. It's gonna be a 30-point game
where Singletary, carries 30 times.
Yeah, that's what we need. The like, the Mac Jones, you,
the Patriots Bills game, where they don't let that child's
throat. Throw a single time for through
four quarters. What are we looking at here?
I know what I'm looking at and it ain't pretty.
I'm still wide receiver here. I would say could area Stony for
me. What do you guys think?
I'd be okay with Michael Thomas at this price, mid 80s.
He can't jump off before % P. I see you've done it.
He can't lie to a man, I can see her percentages.
Yeah, we've all made mistakes that you've done it in a worst
price and we need the wide receivers so that would be my
bags. You get to break the tie.
I want to suck up to Pat's. I'll say Thomas fuck that.
Michael Thomas exposure at my account.
That's a weird. Oh, trust me, it's not just on
your account. Jeff Michael, Tommy, you better
drop. No, I mean, go ahead and expand
because I get that he's cheap there, but it does feel like
more of a falling knife situation to me.
I think people think it's a falling knife situation but I'm
not. So he had surgery late in the
store what like around June last year and pissed the team off and
like this whole situation seemed like it was going to explode.
Ugh, but the monetary seemed situation seems like it's
resolved, they're like, yeah, he's working back.
He's on, he's on track. I know like whatever rehab
videos and stuff. Haven't been like the best, you
know, haven't been exciting but like I don't think that he's not
playing. I think that the concern is that
he comes back and he's, he's not who he was before.
He's basically like, it's like a Sammy.
Sammy Watkins career wind down or like the last few years of
Kenny Britt or something like that.
Like it could suck but there is up.
Think they're still upside with Michael Thomas in an offense
that should be more potent and like if a lava is good and
Jarvis, Landry helps to me the fact that all of their starting
wide receivers are backups. Now, there's more upside to the
offense leaning into the past like a little bit more like not
a ton but kind of like where the Colts were last year, instead of
like the Titans or where the saints were last year, so, I
don't know. I it's gross.
I know it's gross, but it seems like there's a decent upside
scenario for the price. I would say the one day with
Michael Thomas serious. Like I, you know, I mention the
one video of him like doing the box jumps on one leg and he
looks like he's not good but like at the same time like we
got jacked off in the chats and he can't even make height vids
look good. Like, if you were just standing
Pat, I guess I like hat and catching like from the jugs
machine, just like one had to catch it, but not moving it all.
He'd be like, Michael Thomas. Looks like he's ready to go, but
because we saw the worst part of his rehab is like, he can't play
like, I don't trust this guy at all.
And I think that is a weird branding thing more than it is
like the actual situation and him as a player for New Orleans.
Henry Buddha says T1 wondering how wrestle cages his wide
receiver. Well I don't know.
Oh man. He's done better than I thought
to have a lobbies as wide receiver.
Three is not good, but it's, it's better than I thought.
He might be able to do. Yeah.
Also, Willis, I do want to acknowledge because I forgot.
You did donate five dollars, because you love Zeke and you
were so happy. Would we drafted Zeke?
So thank you will, is for your donation, going forward.
It will cost more to get me to draft.
I'll take one of those. It's one of those concerts that
has like the tier levels. Like what's like one tier sells
out that it jumps to like 10 bucks?
That's right. I actually know the exact price
that it would take me to drive, Z gets $25.
And actually it's maybe a little bit more because the opportunity
cost of me not having that bullet.
Maybe it's around 35. When you just for week 16 it's
like 2575. That is a great way to get
exposure to seek you too man. And $35 from the chat and then
free, roll your Vespa me and free plus 10.
Um, you guys want a double stack Borough here?
Yes, let's double-check for up. The highlighting in the brick
house is nice though. That it does make it pop up in a
way that your you, if you missed that and you still don't stack
up like, you're making some grievous mistakes.
I feel I know there's a chance. I wouldn't have noticed if it
weren't for the Highlight. Yeah.
So with the, the Brick tool, basically, if you have a
quarterback on your team that you've drafted, it will
highlight here. I scroll down to havenhurst, it
will highlight anyone else from that team.
So you know, bricks thought with this too, is he, you know, he
was coming from a poker background to where there were
these poker Hud's. You'd have information on the
players, your you're going against.
And the idea here is like, you'd be able to easier more easily
multi-table because you could have two to three drafts up and
just have kind of the key information just popped up
there, which kind of goes back to our thing of getting in 150
drafts. Like if you are on a time
crunch, you might need to be multi-tabling.
A few of these. I do think it would come in
handy then that would definitely help.
I've also the Davis tip of starring, everyone, It's harder
when you're streaming because it this would potentially, it's a
bad Auto picks, but when I'm drafting my own I star and
Davis, Matt, I gave you this tip, you start everyone on the
team of the player you selected and then you start everyone on
week 17, that of the opposite team.
And then, you know, then you just see the stars coming up and
it's kind of like highlighting everyone and I won't do it
everybody. Like, if I have Debo, I don't
usually highlight. Derek Carr, you know, because
presumably don't have a Adams. Um and then if I if I get wall
or then I will start their car at that point.
All right? This feels like a pretty nice
range for a running back. What do you guys think James
Cook? Get the correlation?
Yep, I support that. There we go.
James Cook, it is bags. How have you been thinking
through Singletary, verse James, Cook ATP twins.
Teammate twins. Same position twins.
It's a it's an interesting one because of the periods.
Like I was really spamming a lot of drafts like I was getting
them like single tear. He's behind cook for that brief
periods. I was getting him to lower ATP.
Then once cooked guns available, more like iíve talked about this
a lot. Like I just believe that in
general. The best approach could be
taking a lower GDP back. And I know we only had some of
the research about ambiguous back fields and all that, but
like it cook, singletary's, not really ambiguous.
But it is still a spot where for drafting for weeks 14 through
week 17. Like, I think, you know, it
could be Singletary. So, rude and hot.
They were giving him a lot of touches.
He fought off Zach Moss, being a high draft pick and and not
being the most worthwhile, but cook, you know, coming in like
could be good too. To sew it.
Like if you had, you know, 50% of each rather.
You know obviously not relative to all your lineups but I think
you get in half each to me just feels like the right move
because I don't have a lien. Yeah I'm sorry I just from
listening to Sean talk about it. He has me leaning Singletary.
But I personally don't have any conviction and in either
direction but I can't tell Sean, definitely prefer Singletary
here. I don't think I have enough cook
and I sometimes have thought if I'm stacking with Alan, don't I
want cook? I mean, I know kind of the the
offense rolls. Everybody rolls argument to get
Singletary in there. But like, for week 17 or or any
of the weeks or any of the playoff weeks, I mean, the
literal correlation of cook catching a pass from Hound.
That's a lot more likely than Singletary, right?
Yeah, it's Singletary, wasn't really getting the pass game
work even when he did fight off moss and it had breed kind of
breathing breathing down his neck last year too.
So I would think Singletary is kind of the pure hand off back
and it Cooks probably like cookie get third-down work even
if singletary's good Right. That's what I was.
Yeah, it is such a, it's a really fun puzzle to think
through because we've seen them, you know, basically try to
bolster their back field Beyond Singletary and then they've kind
of been forced back to him because they haven't been happy
with Zack moss and the other stuff then they draft James
Cook. Which again, seems like an
indictment of Singletary. And yet on the other hand
Singletary was really, really good down the stretch.
He also can catch passes. He's pretty agile, it's hard
because on one hand I'm like, oh, he could be Here's Leonard,
fournette. The guy that crushed in the
playoffs, right? That's undervalue to get on the
other hand. It's like James Cook might just
be better than him to that's it stuff.
And they didn't want mckissick to, which I think is important
to keep in mind. Like they wanted that
pass-catching back. He just didn't sign with them
after he said he was going to. So like maybe that's why they,
you know, or more comfort with cook is that he can give you
some fractional amount of mckissick with the upside of
potentially supplanting Singletary.
I don't know how likely that is this year.
But like probably four 2023 like that.
Seems like that. Probably the plan.
Yeah. And it's easy to understand why
that was their plan. Man, because Devin Singletary
have the lowest yards per hour in the entire league.
So, you know, they then they go, okay, we need someone who can
actually do this and then they made to clear attempts to get
that in. I don't know.
It does, it does. It's a real red flag for
singletary's receiving usage and built his own performance and
then their subsequent actions. All right, so we're going to be
on the clock here at pick 11:9 our team so far.
Joe, barozzi can James Cook Wide receivers Higgins waddle Judy
trailin Burke's could areas Tony, Tyler Boyd Travis Kelce at
tight end. This feels like another running
back spot to me. What do you guys think feels
like Row? Joe, I'm down with Row, Joe.
I will also flow Aaron Rodgers going crazy, past ATP going to
be done there. I know we sort of set ourselves
up for Daniel Jones but you can backdoor stack Rogers if you
want, then it's an interesting thought.
What do you think's bags? And don't say you want to suck
up to path because then I'll do the opposite.
Also, we have the Denver Casey games, I feel like Raja makes
sense, but it does make sense because, you know, gotta get
that correlation with Raja. I mean you only have two
Glad to be part of the clip, feels good.
We only have a couple of them. We got to really soak it up.
Oh man. Wow, there's the ocean.
Well, it's too late for that. I don't know if you saw my
Rojo's 69 for 20 min but the bit wait.
Become reality. What was it?
What was the percentage? I know that was 69.
What was the 420 part $420? Okay.
Well what is the 69 drafts? What we do need to get into that
though? Tell me the fuck is this a lot?
Because I think my highest guys like 350 375 dollars that like
twenty six percent. So we're probably looking at
like 45 percent. No, no, don't do that.
It can't be but I don't know the lot under that 39 percent.
It's 40%. Yeah.
Do you think he has a 40% chance
of success? Like, if we're using, like, the
metric you're supposed to? For example, I got it.
I've got a cool. I mean, a lot of it was before
mechanic game so I'll I'll cool off as we go.
Although, to be honest, too. So far so far.
No good on cooling it off, but I'll eventually cool at all.
Oh, I'll find a way Richard White's been currently my way.
Way as I'm breaking ties to the shuttle.
I right now I'm not, I can't break ties to Rashad white 21%.
You want Madison High? Come on, don't let your
exposures. Let's get will shred white.
I just have it him. Yeah.
Why not Alexander Madison? Richard weitz better.
Well, it's just, I hate what he put me in spots to try to go
against guys. I love sure.
We'll grab Richard white Patsy's 21%.
He's like, man, you gotta run away from your lights that I
don't know. I mean, like honestly the rodeo
one, you know, there's that there's that bias bumper of 10%
but like in general, I guess so you do set yourself up for an
uncomfortable situation at the ATP Falls further, but
especially where like, if okay, let's say all running backs are
probably a little bit more expensive but just like really
any of these guys like we're things are going to change for
all these players. So if you think like they're
good value now, And then you're right, it's easy to cool off
because the ATP is going to rise considerably.
Now, if you're wrong, you have a tougher situation because now
you're like, I'm getting I can I can continue to load up and get
this guy to get value but you can still probably cool pull it
off and step and then make sure you're getting really good
prices. Even at a reduced ATP that's
kind of how I'm thinking through like these stands.
Aren't going to reflect My ultimate stands like every every
stand now both fade and and and the guys generally bullish on,
it are going to come back. The Pact once I get my second
bar Beltline, right? Yeah.
No. And the barbell, I think
definitely makes portfolio stuff a lot easier because you are,
theoretically, putting a distinct chunk of time in
between. Whereas it is a little harder to
do it with a slow drip. Because, and again, I love
having my exposures up there but it does it is a little bit of a
mind. Fuck up being like, is this a
spot where I press it? Where I think Richard white is
undervalued and that's why I think The lens to view it
through is like, do you think this guy will get more expensive
or do you think he could get cheaper?
If you think you could get cheaper, take the feet off the
gas? You need to get more expensive.
Keep hammering that edge now. Yeah.
And like I don't know. It's tough with it's tough with
some of the guys because some of the guys I like I do think we'll
get less expensive. So Trail in Berks I've cooled
off on because I think yeah there could be more smoke around
this. Like he's not in shape stuff in
training camp. And I also think there could be
stuff, but like he's not, he's not running with the starters
like if he's not running with the starters which I think is a
fairly likely outcome that he's, you know, behind Westbrook.
A Keen Eye for like the first preseason game or whatever.
Think that'll hurt his ATP, even if like we know, like okay, if
he's not a starter to wide receiver sets for three weeks or
whatever like ultimately, that's not the end of the world.
We've seen guys, you know, start kind of in that role in then
take. Over and absolutely Crush.
So but at the same point like if there's going to be a discount
coming with that looking fairly likely like you don't want to
spoil that discount for yourself.
So I am trying to figure out guys who I think it'll fall even
if I really like them. Guys want to be done at tight
end and take Alberto. With our KC style.
So like double KC double Denver. What do you think?
Specs are? We are we risking not getting
Jones because we could get Jones and Alec a potentially over the
next two picks. That's true.
I'm so looking at some of our other quarterback outs we're
running out of them. I guess.
Tannehill is the only other one. That's a good point.
What do you think? Pat.
Jones or kui bun. Mm.
Yeah I'm okay either way we can go jumps.
Let's let's do Jones here, Titans just a little, I mean,
Kelsey really gives us permission to kind of really
kick the tied into can down the road, whereas it's nice to get a
kind of an upside pairing there with burrow.
One thing I will say is like in that draft I did today.
I got Daniel Jones in the 170s. He has been a guy who has kind
of a wide distribution of his of his ATP.
You think Zeke ink is watching? Because I like I said, I like
Pearson a look. Here it goes, the next pick.
And that always makes me feel like this guy, this guy's right,
it's scooping me right under my nose.
Thanks Al this guy Zeke ink. It's he has a spaags.
King. Hangs on your every word.
He's all the NSFW. HD bot.
Spam in the chat. Open somebody clicks.
You've been on your best behavior.
I haven't even been tempted to head over to the splash.
Play a scene and stream yard to Bonk you.
It's like a because ships a second.
Professional. It'll show you guys are serious.
Get the fuck out of here. We have been professionally.
I'm getting it. Tequila shot after that.
I don't like, you know, there's credibility here.
Like I'm not gonna come in and do you gotta play to the room
that you're in? That's not coming in and being a
fucking Wild Card like Charlie lights.
Are you a fed to that here? Pat, are you a fed?
He's calling us a professional show.
Yeah, it is a bit offensive spaags has stated earlier that.
He watches ship chasing which I'm very much doubting now.
Well, I think we all know that no Gretch here, obviously, the
more professional do-over means that Gretsch character.
I'm substance subtweeting, Gretsch.
Well, he's Alright, let's see here.
So they're gonna take me, could leave a sick baby.
Um, let's see. Why is Sammy Watkins
highlighting here? That is because it thinks we
should have taken to take it Rogers, that's it.
What are you guys? What are you guys seeing here
tight end? Is he we could take out your and
be done at running back. I have so much algae are, I
always support taken out here. What about TDP?
All right? I like I like that was your over
TDP but I take a lot of TDP as well.
Yeah, I just you know, this has been the draft where I just take
your guys, to be back at that fucking ignore it.
Well, that's just ignore it. But even up your own exposures.
Hey, Cisco? Yeah, yeah.
What do you guys think? Yeah, but I have a lot of him
already and then just take some duty of 9% out like that.
But just take us. Like are you doing everything
about you? What?
TV, hey Pat, why don't you start sharing your screen?
A drafty be of three. Do you know why?
Because your internet can't even fucking support, you wouldn't
want your lashing out. Well, you lied, you know just
because we called you out on your bullshit.
Now there's a professional street it's not washing out its
constructive, criticism internet latency issues or why he's
always getting the ninth pick. Some of the first like, it's a
secret. I bet there's something to do
with that pizza internet's. So fucking quick, he gets a
little mice lesson and it's like loading looking 111.
I still don't know what happened last week.
That was such a weird bizarre thing.
You know, you had to kick out the original Pete.
That was what I like I would, I don't know, enough to say
because like, you know, more than I do.
But if I give you booted, the original, like the additional
Pete doing something to be, I could, I would love to have
booted, the original P. I fucking hate the original
Pete, he sucks. I'm a new man.
Really original. What I think was I do want to
plant a flag of the for Tyler algae, right?
He's my highest expose back. I looked it up while Pat was
talk about Row Joe I've got him 25% eight hundred dollars
invested in them right now and I think Tyler I was here is gonna
be a monster this year, I bet. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, not
Financial advice full disclosure now, is that it all who's your
who's your highest own poop pee, who's hurt your?
Highest owned running back at probably fucking 23%?
Let's see, suppose, you're 25. I think it's Pat.
Well. Let's see.
It is Rashad Bateman somehow. My top 5 is Julio number one
sky. Before I was injured hamstrings
who's approaching 40 you gotta should we just not risk.
Getting boxed out our on the double stack and get one Dale.
What about Aidan? Sure, this up at tight end and
we get a stack with are more important quarterback.
My only thought is that one Dale is a much hotter.
He than Hayden if you know right next to each other.
I mean, Hayden is only 2% for you, be a nice chance for you to
even that up waited Jack. Even when you try to play a
device, I think I just if I'd said it one second earlier, I
think I would go with you, put it that way?
Daniel Ballinger's free to at tight end and like yeah, yeah.
Pat I think he's probably Brevin Jordan and terms of his Outlook
this year but but he'll be playing all the time though and
Jordan was like yeah kind of good for a guy not playing a lot
of snaps. Yeah no I agree.
Speaking of other Brevin. Jordan's house your Greg
cultures clip. Coming Pat still where it was.
Last time we checked him Silla fell down very far.
I love that you're just letting that Brevin door.
Jordan comp Slide by there too. Well, you know, The bourbon
Jordan is actually pretty, pretty soft Prospect to did.
Okay, as a rookie. And now looks like, potentially
starting tight end, so I don't think it's the mental to get to
mean, confer dosage, even if you have performs of this year, oh
no. Phil, I thought you were an OG.
Have you not been around? You ever heard one Dale?
That's sad. Rhonda lose the original.
It's one Dale now. Alright.
So the other top five receivers Sky more, which actually
surprised me because I thought I was like taking it easy on Sky
more, I'm not know Rondell more on Dale, KJ Handler and will
Fuller. Had I feel like that top five
leaves me wanting more. No thanks.
You know he tried it was like it was a fun experiment to bring
specs on for Splash. Play thought this is this is my
surprise rise to the occasion but I was wrong.
That's on me guys. I need to be better about the
guests. I booked on here.
Oh who's night Aiden goddamn it, cooled the fuck to Kate, zinc.
You that is so fucking gross. What are you doing?
Zane, you take me off? Secant gets out of line.
Nobody out. There we go.
See the pool. Jesus, there's no tight ends
left. Good thing.
We have Kelsey, let, Steve Harris.
Campbell are giants. Yeah.
I like that. I liked it.
That can quell in the chat saying, sorry for the state, by
the way. So he was there.
Lurking. God damn it.
Zach. How could you?
So we gotta get pretty deep hang on, hang on.
Now, let me look at things team until my he's a fucking idiot.
Zero correlation 0, 0, 0, because you took Jamison
Crowder. Yeah, no.
He panics. He panicked, I didn't get it
tight into. No, no, no.
It's because there's no stronger correlation than the wide
receiver five on a team with the Titan.
One on the other team gets this awesome.
Now let's saw sickness Hawkins Inked, dude.
I don't know where they got this week 17 bullshit from, but just
chill out. So, again, wide receiver a in
tight end, not very strong correlation cat.
Oh, I will actually I'm putting zinc in a Timeout, five minutes,
stream yard time out here. You guys out tilted.
I am Zach can Keller was blocked for five minutes.
You I'm sitting time out. You try to type, nothing will
come up. Think about what you've done?
Well, exact stink Ella, what? We get, Greg, they'll sit there
when I have to send back some money.
You pay off. Are you gonna look like?
You mean it's Island but it's okay.
No swing. Yeah, this is, you know, behind
the scenes, you know, I act like a petulant Manchild and upset,
our guests in the chat and then Pat kind of pays everybody off
after that. Rock star hotel rooms.
Hey, that's who else is going in timeout.
Fucking lunchable, connoisseur. I'll stop putting people in
timeout. No, I dare you.
I dare you to come. Who wants a Time?
Who wants the time? I'll fucking the time the shit
out anyone right now I think you were doing fine piece.
Yeah that's great. Jason make it a little more
about this sarcastic. Alright Berto wants a timeout.
You get it bud. You get it.
Just know that one of these times I'm going to miss click
and I'm gonna accidentally block you.
And then I'm going to go deep within the YouTube settings to
unblock you. This is true, Eric I feel so out
of my comfort zone every to pick of the back, half of a draft
rip. We are.
What do we need? We're on the clock.
Well, we need a tight end. We can wait for dulcich in the
last round. Do we can get by Guy Ritchie.
Now we got the double stack wide receivers are available.
He's gotta fuck it. I think that's good.
Let's just have a good time today.
I just want to say I was just reviewing the team by that clip.
This is definitely at least 26 running back team and now it's a
fucking five writing bag. 0 RV teams so we fucking roll the
clip running bag 0 R BT but it's a zika.
It's is he here? Okay, just pretend we took zika.
Tried one as our acre. What the fuck are we doing?
Three rookies? Oh my God.
This is Big Man. Gonna drop like we're right row
Jonesy for although he might have to drop one more running
back and forego tied into honestly.
No, we got to take a tight into I honestly think six running
back might be more valuable. I'd be what tight ends are.
We taking? Greg dosage.
Don't say it looks. I'm down.
I'm down with the six running back.
Yeah, I think we can draw, dog. Kelsey here.
Yeah, let's let's go. Let's go kill.
You want to get like a mckissick or something with?
Yeah, I'm gonna kiss it gets kind of what you're looking for,
right? Yeah, I think Mark, Mark Ingram,
let's go mckissack. All right.
Yeah, there you go. To 691 visco visco luxury pick?
That should have had a tidy. I wasn't hiding, it.
Tightens really flew off the shelf in this one.
I mean, dulcich dosage would have been a better luxury pick
than than visca for for insight into dude.
Every the chats just slurping up this K Dot and shit.
If there's it I wish I could short this K Dot and stuff.
As I mean, everyone, everyone wants to tell me you can't draft
for shot white because Tom Brady doesn't like rookies.
He doesn't trust rookies, you're going to tell me a rookie tight
end is going to come in and smash with Tom.
Brady, get out of here gronk's playing week one.
Are they eating breakfast together?
If they'll be like, why do you think some tv12 And shakes for
breakfast. Yeah, we read one.
Blurb about K dot does that. He's fucking steamed up the into
the eighteenth round. Get out of here?
Yeah, I'm not into the hot and stuff either.
You're more of a good guy. I'm more of a dulcet sky.
Yeah. Russ loves rookies.
The thing with with Brady and the rookie stuff like he throws
to the running backs on all Downs.
That's why one of my big grants like 2 years ago was I think
Paulson had Rodeo for like seven targets and I went on a massive
ran about it because I was like, he's Catches screens on early
Downs even though he sucks at playing a third down but like
that's the thing. Like if Rojo's getting early on
targets, Rashad white will you know, so you don't need, Richard
white to win the third down world to get targets from Brady.
Yeah guys, I'm so worried. We're going to get zero points
at tight end. Weak, AI mean.
This is as bad as having two tight ends with the same.
Bye week. This is worse.
Oh Joshua, I did see.
So Joshua was a latecomer to the underdog Cardio Club is
apparently going for seven cardio, drafts in two days so
apparently he did this draft while on the elliptical or
whatever machine you are on. Let's see how Josh ended up.
Okay, this is a fun. Build a 2410 to where do we go
here? Let's see, Josh.
Josh Frick 2410 to ooh, hate your quarterbacks.
Her cousin also, daikeler at Tokyo, Gibson velvet guard.
Tyler, LG R. I don't know where all this
content. You're consuming.
That tells you, you don't have to draft running backs, but you
probably should drop more. Well, you actually should draft
more. Are you hungry earlier?
Yeah, agent. Brad DJ more God.
When Elijah more Michael Thomas? Corey Davis.
Robbie Anderson, Sammy Watkins John.
Mackey Julio. I guess if you're gonna drop
like five guys, that aren't going to be playing for half the
season, then you should probably get 10 and then turn wall
horderves. Fifth, I don't mind you tied it,
huh? I just wanted to let the chat
know if you guys are on thin. Ice actually need to go back and
put someone in a Timeout. The beatings will continue its
own morale, improves know someone who it was Neil here.
Chatas. Slurping.
This up sees one comment about him.
Yeah, that's a timeout. Because he's saying, I was
creating a strong man for Content, which I was, but you
don't need to call it out. Ha ha, ha.
All right, are we just, are we gonna do a proper saucing?
All right, let's do a proper sauce.
Sure. You think you want ship chasing
to review your team. How much sauce would you like on
your team? Who I love this?
You asked for this sauce, he wants it extra saw.
See you And spicy be what he wants. 13 po-boy.
You realize you can't handle the heat.
Yeah, it's guy. Can we have to review his tank?
Why did you take mohel and hot? What are you doing?
So fucking cute with a 0. RB Heaven.
You will speak when you are spoken to fuck off.
Christofle team shit. Chasing Chief readings are
getting spicy this to he wanted her to Bullock said made a big
to-do earlier that he was leaving to go hang out with his
girlfriend. What it is?
You guys hang out for fucking 24 minutes so they come back and
watch. You secretly pulling out her ID
and cutting a wig on and say, go next girlfriend.
Brush my hair, tell his girlfriend because I continue to
question whether he actually. I think he paid a girl in the
park under the Gazebo for that photo.
What did this saw? Someone someone else.
All right, let's see what we should see.
If bullet can do the Nails when you're out of town Pete since
he's so good at Photoshop. Yeah no.
I I mean Pat you I don't think I'm going to be here next
Wednesday. Oh boy.
Alright it's your dad. This would be a great time for
you to debut another thumbnail and the dolch.
It's Not Gonna Save you. Now buddy I wouldn't do that
while you're gone. How about you be able to see the
doses? Clip?
Newman Trail and Zach Wilson Jared Goff.
What the fuck is Jared Goff do for this team?
DeAndre Swift Res Hall, Tony Polly.
Brian Robinson. Dear, Ernest Johnson, can't say,
I'm mad about it. Justin Jefferson Marquis Brown
Gabriel Davis, Drake London, Garrett, Wilson Jameson,
Williams, rookie fever. Much DJ charkh in Juwan
Jennings, someone reads, the athletic tight end.
Zach ertz and Robert onion. Any thoughts here, fellas?
Um, Bob it's not good. This team.
My mom is supposed to go with you because we're failing.
I mean, yeah, Trey Lance would just you on Jennings.
I mean, I mean trillion. So 10 picks ahead ATP with a
John Jennings backdoor stack. Like what do you do back Source?
Tagging with John Jennings. Look, like, I haven't done that
like, a shitload of times, come on.
I mean, I just like, why are we reaching 15 picks ahead of ATP?
For a qb3, I mean, let's just Relax here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would stop it to there for sure it's
already got. He got there Wilson.
I will just say, I mean this is your just a little Ricci just a
little Ricci reach 5 here, reach 6 here, reach 3 here, reach 3
here, just a little Ricci, you reach Newman and I'll teach.
All right, just keep reaching and I'll teach Bud now but Peter
I mean this is a this is the Avalanche here.
So he's reaching to stay ahead of the Avalanche.
Maybe and yet you can see here he reached take Brian Robinson
boy. Yeah, I mean if you can't you
can't have running back reaches in this room.
That's a, that's a, that's a real bad.
And it's also just like, when the darkness Johnson Pig, it's
like Newman. Just have some fucking thoughts
here around. Like, I know we said, we thought
to your first jobs is a great thing because you might get
traded, but like, have a fucking unique thought, you know, just
just drag. You just be held accountable for
once. Do you know?
Just try like, you know, just Having a thought.
See how that goes for you. Yeah, Alan want some sauce.
Vaporware at the 07 here, five, six, seven, who another 3qb
build. I guess what, the what is the
saying, goes, if you, if Matt Ryan is one of your two cubes,
you only have one. Six running backs.
Be not right over baby hands picket.
That's a real turn at least at least Kitty big.
It is a fucking mystery box. It's a small ass mystery box but
it's a nice mystery bike. I think I hate every one of
these running backs. I mean David Montgomery Josh,
Jacobs day me. A Alexander Madison James
Robinson, Chris Evans. I mean this is like a vomit.
Personified, within a, within six running back value.
Hound in, though. Look at the value.
I mean, sure, I guess I literally have not drafted,
they've Montgomery. I'm, I'm like 99% sure the
dollar menu at McDonald's or value to does it mean it's shit
specs, 7, wide receivers digs Pittman Allen Robinson Cooks
Claypool Galah day in Duvernay here tight ends, Mark Andrews,
and Pat fryer, Muth week 17 tight end correlation.
Hmm, That is the one redeemable thing about this.
Yeah, that is that it's nice. There you go.
You gotta do for now. You on, for a little extra
juice. You got to pick it.
I think it's that Zach. Welcome back to timeout.
You are on a short leash. Paul says, Leone's part in the
sauce, Club is hilarious. Paul say my part in the sauce
clip is hilarious. Are you will be put in the time.
How the part of your part the sauce clip is hilarious?
What kind of tequila is that? How much have you had?
Barely. You know what?
So Lauren Lauren left, early this weekend to go Dad, to her
parents house for the long weekend and so that was like the
second she left. I was like, Wow, doesn't fucking
drinking tonight? What else am I going to do?
Be a normal person. Let's see.
Who want, who else wanted the sauce?
I mean it I honestly think our team is probably really good.
Just seeing how shitty all these other ones are.
Let's go to go team one. I just want to see it.
Oh my God. Zinc did take JJ Taylor.
Wow, you love to be stupid play the clip as punishment, why not?
I need a break. The one yard line.
Kate will take the cap. Hit up hailer and he's into the
end zone. Touchdown Arizona.
Taylor to the end zone for the touchdown.
Giants over-the-top touchdown, Arizona, when the plane and I'm
Gigi killer right side squats away the 15 recite after the
gym. The 2025 out to the 30 gets a
block to the 42 Midfield, turns the corner, some level, 40
countries started the 35 to the 30 and out of bounds near the 25
yard line first in Spain Arizona.
This is a screencast said, it's caught 35 down to the 30 25.
So I have a question so Casey points it out to but like it's
weird that there's the old chat comments on that clip.
So is that a clip of a clip from the show?
Yes. And I mean that's not an
accident. That's I forget.
Who requested? I thought it was a brilliant
idea. It was when we played it a few
weeks ago and the chat was on fire, roasting the Jailer clip.
And so I updated that clip with the comment version so please
don't ever question. My production skills Focus.
I saw it at one point it was like we did, is this going on
live? And that just occurred to me.
That it's like, no, these comments are not occurring live.
It is, in fact, creepy comments. And so, theoretically, if I
wasn't zoning out and enjoying really that two-minute break
from performing, I could theoretically put other comments
on the board and then each week updated until it's just a
fucking, you know, Hall of Mirrors of JJ.
How very pretty, very crispy. Beams words like been reposted,
a bunch of time, so, it looks all weird.
And frayed could you? You put the comments, like I
guess the old Comics? Could you move them to a
different parts of that when you buy a new comments?
They don't cover hang out real quick.
I'm going to give a bullock five more minutes with his
girlfriend's would even say he said oh he was saying that.
Don't question my production skills.
How about last week something along those lines?
Mags is coming on ship, chasing everything, you thought it would
be. I mean, it's a very professional
show as we've seen really good of your co-hosts, also bullying,
the chat. I mean, really tremendous
effort, but now I'm glad to be on here.
I enjoy the show so much and I think, I think you guys really
don't, like I said, it's people for, I think you guys are, like,
Trailblazers in this, in this space, that's now growing so
much. So I'm, I'm glad to be on here
without 17 other screens also talking at the same time.
Keep, yeah, I heard you on anything.
That was the best ball, bro. Zero on the That you were
mentioning that you're on, you're only on ship chasing and
I was like, oh that's that's true.
We should gets bags on where we can actually talk to him instead
of yelling over drunk drunk, tegeler, or Leone, or whatever,
becoming a missing person, during Story by John for that
that chest, comment, spags, I am going to say your Hallmark, like
you said, Coming on this show. As you deliver us just an
absolute smash pick. Normally those are during the
DFS season. You kind of have a one-game
single-game call, single slate call.
You know, I think we got some of your takes throughout the show
but clearly I know you've been thinking about this all day.
You probably been feeding Luca bottle trying to come up with a
take that can really you know, withstand the test of time this
year. So I give you the floor.
What is the spags take? Because It's been a very
predictive metric previously. All right.
So I'm now I'm on the spot. So we're completely, I'm going
to be completely wrong but the AFC South will be won by the
Atlanta Falcons and Drake London, Tyler algier Cuyler.
Kyle pits. I Cuyler pits.
All of them top 10 of their position and land a Falcons
Arthur Smith believed in the billionaire boy.
Wow, I know in my head, I am not kidding.
I was hovering over the outro button.
I was like spags will give us this mic.
Drop hot take and it just didn't land for me.
So we just gotta do you really believe this bag?
There was this just how your exposures shook out.
Now you're retrofitting a take around it, it's hot my exposure
shook out, but I think it's So that's why I have so much of
these guys. I think they're the, they're not
gonna be this year's Bangles like they're not going to make
it to the Super Bowl but I think the South has a lot of issues.
I think Tom Brady's going to get hammered that pocket time and
time again. Like what I saw the in the last
year was a man who did not want to be getting it anymore.
I don't think anything they did is going to make him, get hit
less. So you add that into Panther
stink, the Saints Alvin Kamara is going to be in jail, like
they have a new coaching staff. It's probably not a smart.
So the Falcons me I think I like one of those sneaky teams that
goes 10 and 7 and then makes the playoffs and it's good enough to
be like, really While in fantasy.
I thought I had a hot take today which I haven't actually said
this. I take out loud but the hot take
struck me while I try to bring us out here with a nice side.
Take all right. Yeah here's a hot, take the
Falcons, do not win the NFC South because the Saints win the
NFC South with the defense that makes us all sad and a run-heavy
team. But enough weapons to still
squeak out games. And Tom Brady hates getting hit
like spag said, so the Saints, Out of win in the NFC South.
All right, these I'll do it. Hmm, you know, but before you do
the before you the outrider, I do want to mention I'm now
drinking a white cloth because because that's still casting
which is anyone have you know like the kind of get to the
point where you're like, you know, it's time to do laundry
because it's like, I'm wearing this shirt.
It's laundry day. Yeah, that's where I need to go
get beer. So I've gotten I'm drinking this
white cloth because that's all I had left.
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Pat, fucking get your internet together.
Next week, I won't be here, but I believe Davis Maddock will be
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And here's a fucking hot take you know, Benjamin Who is this
year's Rashaad Penny piece?