Good morning, I'm Mike Schope from gorgeous Grand Island, NY.
The school year just began today.
As such, it's time to lower the curtain on Best Ball summer.
What a ride. Our heroes Pat Kurain, Davis
Maddock, Jacob Sanderson are all in position today.
The team that brought you so and inspired so much smooth, Slappy,
Sealy even musical goodness this summer.
Let's go. The pre season finale I suppose.
ADP chasing September 2nd, 2025. ADP chasing is for when you
watch ship chasing you go these guys are just football guys.
I have my 4% exposure blanket. Stay poor, actually.
Back in, if it's Ashenae, it's. Teared to our crystal ball.
close your eyes. You know all your entries are
going to lose anyway. Yeah.
That's fair. You're not going to tell me all
this way I was here. It's anti cabal, it's anti the
best ball thought leader. I'm obviously lying to some
degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys.
It's the most disgusting thing you can make, but man.
Apologies for the slightly late start.
I assume Pat, maybe at least in your case it's the really the
emotions we're all feeling today with this being the end of our
pre season content as a as a team.
Well, I was feeling the emotion of sleep for a while and then I
also, I had to get our baby was up for like 3 hours overnight,
which was not fortunately something I personally dealt
with. But but I then had to kind of
get things sorted before I started here, make sure that
everything was communicated to our nanny who just arrived that
she is she needs to sleep. So you're not sitting in the
outfield at Wrigley right now, by the looks of.
It no could be that we we also have some guests over.
So the room that I normally record in is double s as our
guest room. So I'm I'm outside, I'm on our
desk. Nice.
That thing is Annie Carter's desk.
That's like the most, that's the most attractive background
imaginable. This, you know, this reminds me
of this. Remember, no more parties, Noah
Hills. You still like always podcasting
your plants? He was like the running back guy
that went away when he went to law school, kind of to the
opposite of what I did. That's that's, that's sort of
the vibe I'm getting from your Wrigley Field set up here.
I know I. What happened to the shed, Pat?
What happened to the you? You told me you had these grand
plans for turning the shed into like your workspace.
So I no, no, the shed is the workspace.
So I'll show you the shed. The shed's right there.
Here we go. That's the shed.
There's that's like storage. And then that part's like where
I work and you have. Palm trees in your backyard.
Yes. Palm tree.
That's a Peachtree. 1. Up, up above.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the well, yeah, those are
those are across the street, but yeah, someone else.
'S trees are also fucking sick. Like what?
Yeah, the the Peach tree came in like hot and heavy.
Like it was like, there's no Peaches, no Peaches.
There's more Peaches than you possibly get them off the tree
or the rock. Yeah, it was like San Diego I.
Can't have my little way. I'd eat Peaches every day.
Didn't take long for the music Cherry to be broken.
Pat in San Diego, Jacob in Winnipeg, Davis in Saint Louis,
and myself, Mike in an actual NFL city.
Buffalo To answer Davis's question, though, at the shed,
it just looks like I've been kidnapped.
If I'm in there like it's not I need like I need like a lighting
like you can see there's very little light in that look.
It's all dark. So it's it's the vibe is quite
different than. This send me the if you send me
the specs and stuff I do like, would you like me to help you
get a what you need for a studio in there?
I mean, yeah, that sounds, that sounds nice.
OK. Leone underwent that
transformation, remember a couple years ago, he was sort of
at wit's end with his spot, and now he's right.
His range I. I believe established the run
literally paid someone to come to Silva's residence and be
like, OK, this is what an Ethernet is, this is what a
light is, Evan. And it and it.
Paid off for it. Yeah, I I officially do not
endorse the continuation of the. Publicity of this photo.
Oh my God. They, they and they nailed it.
They nailed it. Don't ever eat on a stream I
guess. No, no, no.
Who's? Crack rock to blast this guy.
You make it you. You do make a great point, Mike.
You make a great point. Who's this guy?
Who, who is Crack Rock? Devin Silva?
You're making you're asking the tough questions and you're
answering. I'm a I'm a fan of his and of
course we all enjoy that stream. He did call me Schlep, but you
know, close enough. Joke, Jason.
You know, he tried to get into
our draft, but you know, he was sort of pinned to the mat at
that point. Davis, what do you have left?
I would like to know from each of you guys.
I mean, the the contests are still open, so we're not
completely to the end. Oh, you know, I have about 35
puppies remaining. I will be drafting in the Best
Ball Millionaire Maker contest on draftkings.com over the
course of this program. Shout out to the sidekick and I
I honestly, I have some credits on on real time sports that they
it's easy. It's easy to run out of time to
draft high stakes fantasy football teams when you forget
you have saved credits. So I, I was maybe going to do
some draft, try and stream some drafts there tomorrow, but I
got, I got I honestly, I mean, I'd like to get another hundred
teams in in the next 48 hours would be would be nice.
We'll see. I mean, there's something Jacob
for me anyway, like so satisfying when you are drafting
these slow drafts and they're just completely just always
hammering you. And then you see that double
check mark on underdog and it's like, you know, team full.
There's it's a magical, there's a relief there.
Team full. I've been pissed, I have one BBM
that is not yet finished yet and I made my final pick of the
draft last night and then ever since I've just been refreshing
to see when the double check mark changes to a draft is over
experience so I can post my final 150 exposures.
And I've just been waiting on these guys just milking the
clock. But it's over now so we'll we'll
find out where the chips fall. I think that my most drafted
player in best ball mania, Michael Pitman Junior.
Whoa. And I'm feel good and I'm the.
Feel good. Everyone, everyone should say
their most drafted player in. Best, I guess.
I guess this makes it less surprising that you want to
start Nick Chubb on our main event team in Week 1.
Oh my God. Hey, my second most drafted
player is Josh Dan, so I guess I'm just the Homer this year
all. Right.
Mine is too easily, 36% easily. Mine's too.
Mine's Tooting as well. All right.
I'm not done yet though. I've got, I think I've got 8
left so I'm going to be doing those today.
I'm going to be doing the, the DK Millie today.
I was, I'd probably do a couple 55 fives as well.
I was in a couple of those yesterday.
My most attracted player. Is like these.
Are really. Yes, Wow, let's go.
All the echo chamber fucking. ARF right?
There, that's right. What an echo.
Chamber All right, guess, guess the number two player.
Xavier Worthy. It's not Marvin Mims, we learned
recently on an episode of the show.
Worthy. Worthy is 3.
It's shaheed. Shaheed is number 2.
OK. Wait didn't you only have like
16% of shaheed? Your number 2 exposure is 16%.
22.0%. Oh wow.
OK, Tooten is my most drafted running back if that helps, but
it is that does. That honestly does help.
That does. Help 25% down to 24% Olave 22.
Tooten 22. Tet 22.
Drake, May 22. I'm at 21% McBride as my second.
Freaking ARF. Dude.
That's a lot of McBride choke. 21% McBride and Jaden Blue 20%.
This is actually the most depressing.
I I. Realize Brock Bowers is no
longer our most drafted tight end.
He got overtaken by 1%. Hunter Henry, pull the
headlight. Oh couldn't, couldn't be me.
I only have one tight end drafted over 12% and it's Brock
Bowers of 18.7. Yeah, I have.
I have Henry at 20, Bowers 19, Jawan Johnson at 16 and then
George Kittle 14. I, I didn't believe.
I didn't believe in very many things this year, but the things
that I believed in, I at least got 18% of them.
So my let's overall, I just realized Tootin has been my top
drafted player for so long that I just assumed he was.
Overall. It's no longer Tootin, it's
burden. Wow, but but Tooting is my
highest draft. Absolutely, absolutely nothing
could go wrong with what their burden is your most drafted
player that. Is honestly, I kind of feel like
he can't. I I think I I feel like he's
going to get at worst, he's going to be Kadarius Tony.
That's that's like. Kadarius, Tony, are you kidding
me? I like they're going to
manufacture him touches at some point.
I'll be fine. He changed his number.
He did. He did change.
His I loved him in 87. I'm that age yeah.
Give me, give me these guys in the 80s that.
That made me. Feel like he matured.
Yeah, they'll come back. That was very good.
Nope, no one, no one caught it. I did.
That'll make a comeback because. My top guys right now Burden
Tootin, Harold Fannon, Let's. Go nice.
My cousin Demario Douglas Brock Bowers, Miles Sanders.
It's time to go to work. I'm sorry you put a tie on in
the mirror. No Miles Sanders.
Miles Sanders. No, Miles Sanders is still
insanely slapped. My But hey my look Davis, I, I
came all the way around my third most drafted running back, Jaden
Blue, 20% in BBM. If only someone could have told
you this was the future. He's my #2.
Yeah, By the way, did you guys have this experience?
You guys actually probably didn't watch Notre Dame Miami,
but like watching Malachi, Tony get all these targets from
Miami, I was just like, my God, what could have been?
I mean, they're not even related to each other, but it was still
I. I prefer sky rager actually,
but. Sky Rager.
Is that a real guy? No, just like the fact that like
Malachi, Tony is like a cut up of recent wide receiver busts is
just like a very. Funny name.
It's really funny. Scott.
Scott Corley. Let's let's spare Evan any
further. Was he?
The one that made the ridiculous catch?
Or was that CJ Daniels? That was CJ Daniels.
OK, yeah. Malachi, Tony.
Malachi. Tony just got like absolutely
peppered with targets. Yeah.
Well, as we as we move to risers, you can tell it we're at
the time of the year where the news cycle is really moving.
There he is. Jakori Krosky, Merritt up top,
Ollie Gordon, Jalen Coker, who's going to move the other way is
for the small time we have left in the season, Amari Cooper,
Isaac Tesla, Austin Eckler, interesting to talk about him.
Trevion Henderson, Mecca Ibuka and Malik Washington moves out
of last call range in the final days here of Best Ball Summer.
What? What is the deal with Malik
Washington? That's like he got he.
In good preseason usage. People follow stealing signals.
They do. Let me tell you what, Gretch.
Gretch gave me the cosign on Broussard Smith and I
immediately moved him to 170 in my rankings.
I was just like, I'll be taking Broussard Smith every draft for
for the remainder. Any time for an Offensive Rookie
of the Year bat? Or is it too late to get in on
Broussard's? I I you know, I think I I think
I set my I think I laid my marker down for Offensive Rookie
of the Year on the Chiefs and I laid it in jail and Royals camp
when he when he goes from 250 to 1 to 101, I'm going to feel so,
so good in the in that in that CLVI I'd like to I'd like to
offer an argument to my Co host here, Ollie Gordon.
I I think there's an argument right now to just take him
straight up ahead of Jacory Krosky merit.
He has fewer roadblocks and I think there's a chance that.
He has a fucking massive roadblock.
He's a backup. He's talking about fewer
roadblocks. Look, I'm going to go.
I feel like I'm going insane. This Ollie Gordon rise is
breaking my brain like I'm. With you, man, I'm the.
Side of you guys ever heard of? I have like I have like 50%,
maybe more in the main event because like I was, I was down
with him as an 18th round pick. You got us on him on one.
We have him on the slow draft rocks.
I have him with Ron and Liam on. Like it's fantastic.
I'm all about it. But like that's fun because I
was like, well, Jalen Wright stinks and maybe Ollie Gordon
will be the backup and now he is and that is great.
Why are we taking him? Like I did a main event with
Gretsch yesterday and he went in the ninth round ahead of
Scataboo, ahead of Blue, and that's too much ahead of all of
these guys. People are losing their mind
over Ollie Gordon. Devon A Chan is fine and he was
always going to be fine and he's the starting running back and
Ollie Gordon is a backup. Well, I just read this article
on legendaryupside.com about how a chains, you know, nutted
season comes with 13 carries per game.
So it sounds like there is some meat on the bone for a 235 LB
Doke Walker award-winning nasty between the tackles rusher.
That's all I'm saying. It's time to invoke the doke.
Yeah, there's definitely some meat on the bone, but like we're
talking about probably still less than 10 carries a game and
at behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.
And he and he's unlikely to get any receptions because that's
the one thing HN really does have locked down.
And then so now it's like, is he going to get a lot of goal line
theories? He could because he's big, but
are they going to be, you know, a powerhouse?
Rush script on the goal line. Number of receptions Number of
receptions for Raheem Mostert the year he finishes the Running
Back 2IN fantasy. 20. No, he had more than that I
assume. No 25, No.
Devon HN had 103 carries that year.
Like is that what we're expecting this year?
No, you guys are, you guys are you're, you're not seeing the
vision. You're you're mixing.
We're not. You guys are not seeing the
visions? Yeah, that's.
Correct. OK.
The I guess where where we're at here is you guys are at a higher
percentage chance that Miami is a dumpster fire on offense.
Than it is no I I've been very Miami optimistic all year.
If if Miami is the 11th best offense in football, they're the
way that they call plays. This is a classic expected
points to the backfield is higher than the norm like
actually like way higher like probably 90th percentile
expected points available to this backfield because they
don't have a third wide receiver.
They they probably are not even going to when.
They do the Emily Washington. Come on, be serious.
Luke Washington was on the team last year.
They had Odell Beckham on this team.
They've had how? How many specs?
Employees so they have for their backfield last year.
I mean, still I I would have to look it up, but I would, I would
actually guess like quite a lot. But like, but all of it went to
HN. Like there was no like, real
spillover. Yeah, the vast majority last
year came through receptions, so it all went to HN.
OK guys, just hear me out. What if Ollie Gordon has 1500
yards and 10 touchdowns? What?
Like. Okay, if you did not see this,
Liam tweeted that about Kian Coleman and then people people.
Just. Hammered him, hammered him and
replies and he feels I guess there's a bunch of losers dated
Kian Coleman. That's the best.
I I like, I hope, I hope that Ollie Gordon has 1500 yards and
10 touchdowns because I think he's like my most drafted player
in the main event. So I, I hope that that happens.
I just this rise is odd to me. I, I think that he is a great
contingent value play. He might have like some stand
alone value in in like a best ball sense, like in like he'll
get like 8 carries a game and maybe he scores a touchdown some
weeks. I just like in terms of being an
actual starting player on a weekly basis, I see no path to
that outside of an HN injury or a very little path to that.
And all these other rookie running backs have a very
obvious path like. OK, what?
What? Putin, Statabo, Samson, Judkins,
Blue, all of those guys could easily be the RB one on their
team without any injuries. And it's like so easy to see how
that happens. Like Gordon, it's like way more
crowded. I grant all of that.
I'm not talking about Ollie Gordon being the lead back on
this team. I think a chain will lead this
team. Give me your mental model
implied probability that the Dolphins comes close to what
they generated in 2023. They generated 6800 yards.
They led the NFL in yards. They were second in the NFL in
points for what? What is the likelihood that they
are in that neighborhood? I think that's possible, but I
don't think it's going to come the same way.
I think it will be more through the past.
I don't think they're going to be able to run the ball like
that. I think it's slim.
I mean, they are minus money to win seven games or fewer.
That team was good. I mean, they, they were just,
they just faltered late in the season and I just, I don't know,
like. They they got.
To the vibes, but they. They got to Kansas City and they
said. -10° we have. Never been less interested in
playing. On the whole game.
I know, I know. Is anyone else cold?
I think what's I think what's breaking my brain about it is
I'm I'm just, I guess confused why people weren't drafting him
all along then, because if people have this much latent
optimism for Ollie Gordon that was waiting to spring up, why
were any why was anybody let letting Jalen Wright stop them?
Like now, now I wasn't Jalen Wright, dude, who was the Doke
Walker award winner? Like he's so good.
And it's like, OK, I grant that. But then where was this truth or
ISM all along? It was because people were
concerned about it was Madison, it was the president.
Oh my God, I'm being You're making no sense.
People were concerned about Alex Madison, but now they think he
should be going like in the beauty.
Got 5 million, he got $5,000,000 he got more money he got.
It was right, $1,000,000. It was Jalen, right?
It was both. Of right, but it should be both.
Those guys stink. I agree with you.
I drafted Ollie Gordon in May. I was.
I was the only one telling the truth.
But we we didn't know that so much.
You were. Taking Warden, I'll give you,
I'll give you credit. You've been consistent on this
point. Big, big W for Davis.
If you don't like Jalen Wright, but then OK, but it's still a
second year running back with all these same points.
I mean, we had these conversations about Woody Marks
and then Davis got around too well.
Who cares if we think he's bad? I mean, the Texans maybe don't.
And so I think there was enough uncertainty about right to, you
know, justify that and that then you've got a split.
Then you've got maybe you've got Washington or you've got two
young running backs where you don't really know the I.
I think it's obviously like the reason why he's steaming up so
high now is the combo of season ending injury for Madison, Jalen
Wright, injury and stinkage. I mean right.
Just like we we got to see Jalen Wright on the field and he was
just like what? He averaged 1.8 yards per carry
in the preseason or something like.
Didn't do anything and got hurt. Yeah, didn't do anything and got
hurt. I mean, I, I would like, I think
he's probably just done. Like I I I wouldn't be surprised
if we just don't see Jalen Wright play for the Dolphins.
He's he's toast. Yeah.
I also, there's now people in the comments that are saying
like, look, Madison was winning the job, but now Gordon, that's
that Mister Gordon, that's the job.
Alexander Madison. Why would I have any interest in
a player that can't meet on Alexander Madison?
I don't understand I mean these. Things are true at the same
time. That's the other thing with
Gordon, like Gordon is coming off this horrible season, he
falls to the sixth round of the draft.
And I know we're doing the like, well, this round's really that
round this year, but like the sixth round's not the third.
You know, if we what, whatever discount you want to apply, it's
pretty concerning. Like if the sixth round's the
5th, the the NFL did not see the guy from 2023 or he wouldn't
have fallen down into the 6th. Round well, they definitely seen
him to some degree because his 2024 tape was undraftable.
OK, OK. I guess that's good, but.
I love it, but a guy coming off of an undraftable year of tape?
That's my favorite. Davis isn't is.
Is there a Chupa Hubbard comp from like what he was 2?
Years before it literally like they both went to the same
school, they both had this identical third season and then
awful final year. They both don't catch passes.
Like like it it is. It is legitimately identical
between like same coach, same same same offense.
You better hope it's not because Chuba Hubbard didn't do anything
as a rookie, right? Yeah, Like, that's that's the
other thing. And so Chuba Hubbard just pulled
up his Relative Athletic score. He had a 4540.
He had a 1.5610 yard split, which is 8.51 there.
And that was it at 210. Gordon had a 46140 with A162
split, which is a 4.75 mark. His wrasse is not good.
Chuba's Chuba had an 8.43 and Gordon was at 6.21.
That like if the guy. OK, the profile was pretty
concerning. The draft capital doesn't come
through. Is he athletic?
Not really. He's big, but he's like I, I
don't know. I mean I know he looked pretty
good in pre season but like that shouldn't really move the
needle. Dude he looked huge in pre
season. Honestly my my take away was
that. Huge he is huge he.
Is huge. That's that's that's for sure.
But I, I think, I think this dude, what I mean, no one wants
to make this point 'cause it's not fun and it could be proven
wrong immediately. But he could look like a total
plotter in the beginning of the season.
Like this dude could lose the job back to right.
Like, let's be honest. Probably my game is there's
gonna be a, a bit of the season where he does look a little bit
like a plotter. Cause the deal with plotters is
you kind of have to let them like feel their way into a game,
you know, you know what I'm saying?
Like I, it wouldn't be surprising if he looks maybe
kind of brutal for the first couple weeks, but then by like
week 5 he's like, oh, this guy's ripping off some nice chunk
gains. Like he, like he's felt out the
rhythm of the NFL game. I I wouldn't be surprised by
that. If next year we get talk that
like we know we didn't use him that much, but he's really had a
good offseason and he's going to be a big part of our offense
going forward, AKA he's Braylon Allen.
That would be a pretty because they're going to fire Mike
McDaniel. They're going to bring in a
boomer coach that's going to treat HN like Breece Hall and
they're going to love the like productive fat running back who
like has never actually done anything impressive on a
football field. They're going to be like this
guy is incredible. So it's that's literally where
this is setting up. Right, right.
So he's, yeah, I I think. But like, if you think about
like in the grand scheme of things, him becoming Braylon
Allen next year would be like a win for his profile.
Like we the expectations would be pretty low for for what this
guy's going to do as a rookie, even with the backup job and
play like he should be a contingent bet on a Chan.
I think that he's kind of been risen up as like he has like
you, you know, like because he didn't have the training camp
that Jacory Kroski Merritt did or like they didn't trade,
right. They didn't they didn't you
know, they certainly didn't trade a Chan.
They didn't clear the runway for this guy and said like, this
dude's gonna be our starting running back now.
So and also Gordon had like a very high volume profile.
Like we, we kind of, I feel, I feel like we know who he is a
little bit better. In the comments, someone was
also saying he's a, he's a breakaway plotter, which one of
the other issues I have with with Gordon is that he was like
super inconsistent. His success rate was not good.
So he is kind of like a boom bust breakaway runner but
without speed. So you know that that could be
that could be tough, especially behind a bad offensive line.
So I, I just, I think early Gordon is like clearly a huge
win because you, you correctly identified the contingent that
he's now moved up. He could have he could have a
standalone roll. He could be like free.
You could be a free version of tank Bixby.
You know, even if even in my view where I don't think he's
very good, I. Was going to say that's a,
that's a good, that's a good comp.
Yeah, but I, I don't know, I'm not chasing him because because
this ADP is a lie. This 167, he's still, he's going
ahead of that like he's going, he goes high.
Yeah, 14240. 2 is what's on the screen, and and.
That's what we're. Going to learn a lot, but yeah.
Yeah, well, good thing I realized that was a lie because
I just misread it. You were proven right.
You were. Like you're like, just think
it's wrong. Just doesn't seem plausible to
me. Yeah.
No way as Tesla going 183. I'm in these drafts.
Wait a minute. One second.
Come on. You can't tell me that, OK?
Then I'm right, Yeah. You want to talk, Washington?
So I've got the props up. We're at the point of the year
where like here are the Week 1 props over 40 rushing yards,
Week 1 against the Giants at home as a 7 point ish favorite
Boston Eckler plus 292. Three to 1 to exceed or even
meet 40 rushing yards in this game.
For what it's worth, Croskey Merritt is plus 1/22 so close to
even money to do the same thing. And Rodriguez is plus 196, so 2
to 1. So like, you know, by just
rushing yards, I feel like JCM is the leader.
Well, no one, no one wants to hear it, but he's probably going
to be a healthy scratch. What?
What are you talking about? What, What, What?
No. Who's who is going to be
inactive? Mcnichols.
So the way it just, that just
doesn't make a ton of sense. I I guess it could be Mcnichols.
Or none of them if they want Mcnichols as a special team.
Or then they might just have 4 running backs active.
Yes, yeah, yeah, that's that's possible.
Because Rodriguez and Mcnichols both play teams, you could have
4 running backs active if two of them play special.
If two of them play teams and they play they have like an H
back. So it's a little bit different.
Yeah, no, that's that's true. I.
Think you know for all the talk about.
What what happened? Davis is so out on Jacory
Krosky, mayor today. He he said he'd take out the
Gordon over him a second ago, and now he's just gonna be a
weak one. Scratch.
So I just hopped off the projections call with Adam
Sharer who is like the number one.
Oh wow, he got. Oh, OK.
Yeah. Well, no, I mean, we just talked
through it and it's like we're work.
Like he's working on the projection.
He's just like, it just doesn't make sense to be giving Bill 40%
of the team rushes. Like you just you can't, you
really can't get there. And I I think he's right.
What if they decide that they don't have anybody better?
Why does it make sense? Because all the all the beats
this week are saying Rodriguez is going to be the lead early
down rusher and he will be this week.
It's not going to last. Yeah, I'm not like as convinced
about that because the the beats that I've been seeing like this
is like beats have a weird incumbency bias.
There's some spots where when you read it, it's like based on
something and there's some spots where I've seen speculative I I
definitely think Rodriguez is going to be involved.
If I was to bet my life on which one gets more carries Week 1, I
might actually still bet on C Rob, but I think.
It's like that's all, that's all I'm saying that's.
All I don't think it's going to be like C Rod 12 carries Bill 2
is what I'm saying like I think it's going to be roughly even
between them. Like for instance, like Mary Kay
Cabot, but did a thing where she was like, yeah, Jerome Ford's
going to be the clear lead back and Samson will be a change of
pace. And I'm like that doesn't
actually match at all what happened to the preseason or
what's happening in practice. That just seems to be a beat
writer who has like a preconceived notion that she's
putting in print, and I think she's going to be proven
incorrect very quickly. Like the.
Beat writers. Thing with the JCM stuff.
They come more from the world of like the team, right, the
primary people consuming their content, maybe not anymore, but
but probably and certainly for for a long, long time has been
fans of that team. And so it's like who's the
number one back on the depth chart?
Who's the number 2 back on the depth chart?
They're not really projecting splits super.
That's not never really been their job and I feel like
they're not always that great at doing that so well, you guys.
Are. Key to it, the key to it is that
the team is where they get their information.
And why would the team necessarily be honest?
I mean, that's just like, you know, I mean, plans change.
So right. Yeah, that's, I mean there are
the beats and then there are the bets and the bets say JCM is the
bet of the three wells of rushing yards.
I will say though, when the props got released, I don't know
what the number is at today. Show up.
I I know you said it, but I. 20 it was, 25 yards was his or 21
was his opener. Well, that's what I was going to
say. Yeah.
His opening was 21 1/2 and it got bet up over 30.
I don't know where it is exactly.
Right now. All I have is like different
levels at at MGM and it's plus 1/20 to rush for 40 yards.
Like it's just way. Also, to some degree, you have
to understand the people betting into this market know they're
they're also might be getting a free roll if he's a healthy
scratch. You guys are also
misinterpreting what I'm saying to some degree, which is I
don't, I don't give a shit that Chris Rodriguez.
Chris Rodriguez is a a known commodity.
He's 27 years old. He played five years in
Kentucky. This is his third year in the
NFL. He has 27 receptions his last
seven years playing organized football.
This is this is not a serious threat to what we think Bill can
be. But I am expecting a slower,
slowish, slower burn than we were maybe led to believe by Ben
Standig. Like I don't think we're getting
19 rushes for JCM. But he's not going to be a
healthy scratch. That would be kind of wild, like
they're trying to figure out who their starting running back is.
It would. Be I also.
I also don't care if he is. I care.
I certainly I will say that that is not, I'll say that is
extremely unlikely. I think Tooting could be a
healthy scratch week 1. I've I've took that.
But the odds of that of like. C rod is 24.
We need. To that is not important to what
I'm saying, it's. Around 7 is not 20. 4 objection
objection, yeah. Overrule that is.
That is correct. Overrule.
You're not. You're in the.
League. Is it two or three?
This is his. 3rd year, his third.
Year, so he's actually exact. Same age as Jacory Kroski
Merritt. Yes, he's 24.
Bill is also 24. Oh my God, they're the same.
Age. JCM was in college for like 9
years. Oh.
My God. Yeah, 3.
Things will possibly. They are they are the same age.
They they are the same age, irrespective of Davis's lies and
disinformation. I was.
It was. Not lies.
And it was directionally accurate.
What was it? It's directly inaccurate, no?
It was. It was factually it was.
It was factually incorrect, but directionally accurate.
No, you were. Your point was that C Rod is old
and not a threat to Bill, but they're the same age.
Bill might actually be older. My point?
Is that we know what Chris Rodriguez is.
By the way, the line is 5 1/2, so people have been betting the
Giants a little bit. Wow.
Just. Unbelievable, unbelievable
stuff. Poker.
That's a bummer. That's a bummer.
I hardly knew her. Yeah, but.
You know, You know what? I was I was slamming Coker like.
Dude, I was like, like, obviously I said this on
Twitter. Obviously there have been
injuries that have affected me more financially than my like
favorite round 15 wide receiver, but this was like the biggest
kick to the Dick I think that I've had in a while.
Like it was just the bat was like so hopeless all summer and
then everything ran so pure for a week.
Like we get Renfro cut, we get a we get feeling traded, we get
Canals coming out saying, yeah, he's our starting slot receiver.
Like I'm, I'm so fucking fired up.
I'm like, this guy should actually be going in the ninth
and then overnight it's just, and now it's just all over and
I'm just sitting there with like $1300.00 of Jalen Coker.
How many, how many freaking Eliminator teams were counting
on Jalen Coker, Pat? Dude, so many Coker you were
just like it was just like free like.
I was just slamming him. I was just, yeah, it would.
It would have hit. God damn it, it would have.
Hit OK, I didn't, I did not love this report that they're like,
yeah, by the way, this guy's like, not a hard worker.
So what's up with like, what? How did we not get that?
It actually makes sense. So it it actually makes sense
now in hindsight, like why the initial reporting was so bearish
on him like that. He apparently showed up the camp
kind of out of shape, which isn't good.
But then like the the reporting is like that he didn't show up
to camp in very good shape. But then then he had a great
camp after that and he adjusted. So it it actually kind of aligns
with what happened this summer, which was we all had this hope
for Coker early on in camp. He was kind of getting buried by
the reports and we were curious why.
And then obviously late in camp he had regained their trust and
was going to be the starting wide receiver for them.
But yeah, now it's now it's unfortunately over.
Yeah, I just, I just, I guess maybe I didn't realize that was
happening that, that, that there were these negative work ethic
reports before and then it's just not great obviously to be
injured and then to read, by the way, we're worried about this
guy's work habits. I'm just, I'm just bummed for
the Eliminator 'cause I, I did, we, I was just on the clock in
like the 14th round. Me too.
And like, and I, you know, when, when Thielen got traded, so I'm
just like, and I'll do a Coker here and I'll do a Coker there,
do a little Coker there. And it was just it just, you
know, cause 'cause the late round picks in the eliminator
actually do matter more than. And you're so much thinner at
receiver. This is this is the thing about,
yeah, with the eliminator, you have to take more running back
points early. You have to get the projectable
points. You have to start hot,
obviously. And then you're like, oh, I'm
pretty thin at receiver. And then Jalen Coker falls into
your lap is a free starting receiver at the end of the draft
and it's just such a smash. I luckily I only have 11% of
Coker. I think the guy that when, when
I was in the late rounds and the news broke, it was the valet
trade because I, I have 35% Troy Franklin, so he's my.
Enough already with Troy Franklin.
This guy stinks. Come on, another one.
This is I was on with I was on with Pete and I I felt like I
was going to lose my mind. He was like, when are you going
to admit like you're wrong about Troy Franklin?
It was like a very Davis Maddock thing.
And I'm like, never what? What has he done so far to make
me I'll? Never like, you know what's
more? Davis and everybody said was
going to go in the 2nd and I said stinks before the draft
that he falls to the 4th, that he does nothing as a rookie.
Like, yeah, I I'm the one who's going to.
Admit. When are you going to admit you
were wrong, Jacob? It's it's.
More Davis. It's way more Davis Matic to be
like, I'm not wrong, you guys just don't understand.
You framed me incorrectly. I've actually been right this
entire time. We have poker in the main event
people. Is he?
Is he likely to be a cut? We're cutting him.
Yeah, we're cutting him. Injured Injured Panthers wide
receiver You got a hold on your bench for minimum of a month.
The eliminator is such a bummer. It's like.
What you guys said about Isaac Gorendo on some podcast where
it's like, it's not over in the sense that like the teams that
you've already drafted, maybe it'll work.
Out could get there, but you don't take it but.
There's no but there's no reason to keep making the bet.
Like I'm hoping that the poker thing happens in the future, but
we are not holding an injury right.
Jalen poker for six weeks on our main event batch.
We, we, we sure ain't. I mean dude, we might have to
pick up whoever the running Back 3 is on the Miami Dolphins.
Yeah, don't we already have Gordon?
Yeah, we do. That's true.
Jeff Wilson, come on down. Jeff Wilson, Junior.
That's right. How?
Many times. How many times does does Jeff
Wilson Junior get picked up in the main event this year?
Every week. Imeka Igbuka in Week 1 is likely
going to be like one of the most owned players in salary cap DFS.
For sure. Yeah, man.
How does that? How does that cheap?
What's his price? Believe he's. 4900. 9.
Something like that. Yeah, I.
Don't have Metcard Book and Dylan Sampson log out.
It's honestly like you just play all the like I I did so I could
see my exposures on DraftKings. I like put in, you know, a a $5
mili team and it was like the slappiest roster ever.
It was like genuinely crazy because you can fit.
It's like Tedoro and McMillan. I think, like, I don't know,
Golden someone else, someone else very slappy week 1.
It's just like the price really low.
Yeah. -102 / 60 yards in the game, that's a pretty healthy.
I think I already I think I already have an underdog DFS
pick em with him over 99 1/2 receiving yards like with the
with the slider. It's gonna be a super, super,
super fun game. Week 1, Atlanta.
We'll be talking about it on Thursday morning.
I'm thinking about DFS. You know who, you know who it is
Ricky Pearsall's 4500 on DraftKings.
Oh, but but Jennings. Jennings is back.
Is so is Jennings back? Yeah, he practiced yesterday.
He. Practiced.
Yeah. Yeah, OK.
We have a slide if you want to jump if you want to jump ahead
to. Let's do he needs.
To like he needs to ramp up period from an injury he never
had. He never injury.
He never. He was running pretty good.
I saw him running around there. I didn't know.
Jennings that I'm like, let me, you know, let me.
Even when they asked John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan in recent
weeks, like, I know, Pat, you were skeptical about our read
early on, like you were, you were proven deeply incorrect.
Like when they asked Kyle Shanahan last week about the
calf injuries. Like, yeah, like, seems like it
should have been better by now, but I guess there's some other
complications. We'll.
Need to no what he said. What he said was even funnier.
He said. Who's to say many two things
can't exist at once? You can want a new contract and
have an injured calf like it's possible.
Pat got the lining in The Time Machine article about, you know,
are we going to be dead anyway? Some reference to that too from
Shanahan, which was slick. This is the return to practice
slide. A lot of this wasn't also Micah
Parsons one of these two where, you know, there's a back thing
and he's fine and then maybe. They she had a real injury.
Shifter hatch a little bit on that.
Yeah. Anyway, a lot of guys are
actually fine. HN Mclaurin.
I mean, that wasn't an injury. Well, maybe there was that with
Mclaurin. Even some talk about him being
whatever, Doesn't matter. Jennings, Khalil, Shakur, I
think is probably good for Buffalo.
But I think you would dock your early expectations for his
production personally. It's.
Be hard for my expectation to get much lower.
Shakur, I mean, like he's coming off a high ankle sprain.
He's going to play, but I'd expect a slow start.
Reid is like, I, I dude. I mean, I was reading up my BBM
exposures before because I don't, I didn't want to talk
about my highest drafted player overall, which unfortunately is
Jayden Reid. And it's like it's, it's I have
no clue what to make of it. I like, it's so weird.
I mean, I gave Davis my best cope, which like then I think
became the more popular cope, which is the situation seems so
implausible that it's almost impossible to believe that the
injuries as bad as it's reported.
Because I don't get how the medical team would allow him to
practice and potentially play on a broken foot that doesn't like
we're not in 1960s anymore. He's not Jack Youngblood, so
Show up is at that game. I mean, not the 60s, but OK.
I've enjoyed my conversations with Jack Youngblood.
Go on. What was it, the 70s when he
played it in the Super Bowl in a broken leg?
Yes, 19 Super Bowl 14. That's right.
OK, yeah. So it just, it just doesn't
really make a lot of sense to me.
Like, I don't know what you guys think.
You guys are less invested in the Jayden Reed experience than
me. You're probably more objective,
but like I'm I'm assuming. He's going to have.
A piece than I hope and I'm just praying that he like flukes out
a couple touchdowns before he gets injured for the rest of the
season at this point. Yeah, I was trying to find
because, because Jeff Mueller had a breakdown of it, like
basically saying like this doesn't happen.
Like you don't just play on a Jones fracture.
Like like everyone who's had it gets surgery.
But there's been then. So I looked through the kind of
the replies and stuff and someone replied to him.
So what you're saying is he doesn't have a Jones fracture
because they wouldn't let him play on a broken foot.
And he's like, it's been so long.
No one's no one's come out with an alternate report of what's
happened that he actually thinks he he probably is trying to play
through the Jones fracture. Dubner was floating in our stuff
of like it could it could maybe like a pseudo Jones or something
where it's like kind of like a pre like the bone isn't fully
broken, but it's stressed. And maybe if if you're risking
it breaking if you play on it. And then Reed himself has
confirmed that he's playing through pain in his foot.
Yeah. So that we know that like
there's there is a foot injury that is causing him discomfort
that he's attempting to play through and no one has said
anything, but they're not saying, yeah, Jones, get the
hell out of here. Obviously not Jones, which they
could easily do. So yeah, I'm pretty.
I'm pretty. Never.
Reported it was a Jones fracture.
It it was, but yeah, nobody was reported denying it.
Which is probably true. All I'm saying is like, it's
just not like all of the pieces of information that we have make
no sense together. It make no sense which.
Like I guess the most likely conclusion is that he's either
just going to be like IR the day before week 1 and the backers
say like, cool, thanks for trying to return to practice but
not happening, or he just I guess plays and immediately re
injuries it. But like what?
What's what's so confusing to me is I get from an athlete
perspective, if you're Jaden Reed, right, you had this kind
of you. You were this breakout wide
receiver. You had a frustrating end of
last year. Now the team drafted another
wide receiver to get this injury.
OK, well, no one cares about Savion Williams.
Did enough to take him in the third round.
All right, enough of that. So, so then Jane Reed is, you
know, he's he's frustrated. I get it.
You get this devastating foot injury and I I would think the
same way. I would be like, fuck it, I'm
I'm a elite professional athlete.
Like I can play through anything.
I'm I'm not getting surgery this crucial year, my career, I'm
going to play through it. I understand that.
But like, isn't that why teams have medical Staffs?
Like especially the Packers have a notably conservative medical
staff? Like wouldn't they step in and
be like, no, Jayden, like you're not stepping on the field on a
broken foot? Like we can schedule you for
surgery or if you don't want surgery you can like lay on the
couch and hope it gets better. But like, not happening and that
clear. So they're letting him practice.
I don't know if that means they're going to let him play.
It's just so confusing to me that he's out there at all.
I get why he would want to do it.
But I don't So Jason Wilde had the report, I think he might
have the report on the Jones fracture, but but he had a quote
saying Jaden Reed doesn't have my interest in the timeline
doctors recommended for recovering from a Jones
fracture. Of course.
So I don't know, I mean, doesn't have much interest.
Feels like a polite way of saying he's not listening to
their doctors. Yeah.
But like, but why is it optional?
Like again, I get I get the surgery thing.
Like if they're recommending surgery and he says I'm not
having surgery, you no one's physically restraining him and
putting him under the knife. Like if they like he could say,
I'm going to try with rest instead that that checks out to
me. But like he then shows up, he's
like, I want to practice. They say sure.
Like, well, I because OK, if you're no, I don't know.
I mean, I have no idea what would happen from playing on
this. But if hypothetically playing on
this injury would only just kind of create more pain rather than
like worsen it in a serious way. But as I'm saying, it's like,
how could it not worsen it? How could it prevent healing?
Like how could it not prevent healing to play on a broken
bone? You're not supposed to play if
your bone is broken because it's not going to heal, right?
So I don't know. I don't know.
It's great. It's like, though, it's the
worst receiver injury. I think you guys are right on
it. We don't really know what is
going to happen. Sammy Watkins in Buffalo.
I mean Jones. Fractures ruined Sammy's career.
We're all, we're all too. We're all too, too scared to
admit that Dantavian Wicks is like, just the ultimate,
ultimate chaperone. Clicking on them again.
Yeah, clicking them again. Even even Michael the Ruined is
pro Wicks now. This ruined Sammy Watkins
career. This ruined Dez Bryant's career
like there's it's a graveyard of wide receivers with.
Julio Jones don't have this injury too, maybe.
He did. He came back somehow and was
awesome again because he's Julio Jones and is like a God among
men. But yeah, he did have this at
some point. Yeah, by the way, everyone, just
just so you know, your your DraftKings clocks just went to
10 minutes. Oh God, that's not even a slow
draft anymore. That's just like a slightly
that's like, it's actually the most aggravating clock
imaginable. Like I would rather go down to
30 seconds than 10 minutes. That's a home league.
I have a draft tonight. Somebody will not.
If you're in a bunch, Jacob. That's oh God.
What if you're in 50? That's fair, Jaden.
Blew off the injury report, by the way.
Kind of sneaky. Yeah, I here's here's a here's a
Davis Matic. Here's a Davis Matic Gold Star
play. I have already wagered site
credits on this Javonte Williams Lower 36 1/2 rushing yards
against the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, yeah, he's going to need
17 carries to get above 36 rushing yards.
Javonte is about to have the most 12 carries for 29 yards
past performance that we've ever seen.
Yeah, yeah, blue is. Not Great is not posted at
DraftKings. Blue, Blue Blue might not get a
rush in this game, but he, he'll, he'll get some.
I've gotten crazy excited about Jayden Blue.
I thought he looked fantastic in that preseason game.
Like the listen to Davis medic baby.
And come on, Pat, like you watched the last pre season game
like he's always been fun as like a receiver, gadget player,
all that stuff. Like he had some legit inside
runs. He showed some juice.
He showed a little power like. No, I'm more in on blue.
I'm definitely more in on blue. He's it's all broken pretty
nicely for blue it. It broke pretty nicely for Blue
when his teammates were Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders.
But like, it's even broken more incredibly like like Javante's
gotten some perfunctory hype, but he's not gotten anyone to
really say like he actually looks that good.
Miles missed most of Campbell an injury and like barely made the
team. Phil Moff is the only other
upside guy. He's on IR like we're cooking
with Jaden. Blue The other thing is that
Blue Blue was struggling to get on the field.
It was like, you know, they're playing Duze Vaughn over him for
a while. It was like he's he's going to
be, you know, kind of someone they they have in the mix.
But now you're getting like the run game absolutely sucks like
this. This run game is a huge problem.
Like, and it's like, oh, yeah, OK, that is, that sounds right.
Yeah. You know, like why why did you
do this to yourselves? You you brought in a a like a
failed free agent signing who immediately became like a not
even a particularly good backup in Miles Sanders.
And then you also have Javonte who was so cooked last year.
Like, of course it sucks, but I don't know, I thought, you know,
maybe maybe somehow they get like enamored with these guys
enough to where they just feed them a bunch of touches.
So that doesn't seem to be happening.
And then trading Michael Parsons is honestly pretty good for
Jaden Blue because you're just gonna have to throw non-stop.
Waiting for Jerry Jones to call Sanders.
Michael Sanders. Then we'll know that that's an
especially bad sign for him. Naji Harris What?
I guess it. I guess he's OK.
Likely playing, he's fine. Was he always OK?
No, because he would have practiced.
Like why would they have? Played nothing, nothing.
Nothing ever happens other than Brian Robinson Junior getting
traded. Nothing ever happens in the NFL,
but Brian Robinson Junior did get traded.
Yeah, I don't know what are you guys, but but yeah, we simply
cannot project the guy they traded him to to play for any
touches in Week 1. Yeah, he'll be a helpless.
He could be crazy. What a crazy.
Game to do guys, I think they. Might want to take a look at the
guy they traded, Brian. Robinson Hey, man, don't be.
Don't be too weak one brained. Don't be too weak one.
Brained. You're being too weak. 1
Brained. You're being weak one.
Brained Corey Krosky Merritt leads the Commander's backfield
and fantasy points for the entirety of the season.
I don't think it is the most likely scenario that he leads
the week 1 backfield and fantasy points.
Yeah, OK. That's fine.
I don't think that's most likely either.
I think it'll be Austin Eckler who leads the.
Me too. I think it'll be Austin Eckler.
You want to jump back to the Fallers when you're ready, yes.
Yeah, well, I was just going to ask, what do you guys think the
Naji Hampton split's going to be when he plays, which might be
Week 1, might be Week 2, whatever.
I think the damage is done. I think the damage is done.
I think we got Hampton to overcome the inertia.
He got the entire camp as the RB-1.
Naji will have whatever the the perfunctory RB2 role is.
But like I think I think Hampton is going to be incredibly
startable as a low end RB one from the start.
Not we've seen four years of Naji.
He's absolutely stunk in three of them.
He's he's cobbled his way together to, you know, reusable
fantasy points by catching a lot of balls and getting a volume.
But his efficiency has been bad. He was he was actually OK last
year, but then his team lets him go.
He doesn't sign it an impressive contract at all.
And then he misses the entire summer.
I I don't think like Naji's. If you were to say like, what's
the one trait that Naji Harris has that really like separates
him as a pro, it'd be that he can handle a ton of volume and
he stays healthy doing it. But that's not actually a
particularly useful trait to have if you're in this
situation. Unless Hampton goes down.
It's it's like now he needs to be like he he looks so explosive
on a per touch base. You just want to see more
anytime you put him out there like Nope, that's not naughty at
all. So yeah, I think I think he's
he's a very high volume contingency play.
Like he's you know, if if you could argue that he's pretty
undervalued because he's kind of like a much cheaper Zac
Charbonnay now. But I think he's he's not, he's
not going to threaten for the for the job, I don't think.
You guys said recently, maybe last week, just like the
possibility that Naji Harris skips the entire offseason
program and then is on the field for Kansas City in Brazil in
Week 1 seems pretty remote. And I guess I'm, I'm just here
we are here we. Are.
Here we are. Nothing ever happens.
Fallers, Joe Mixon, Ryan Robinson, Gorendo, back-to-back
Taiji Spears on IR Quinch on Judkins might be back soon,
Roshi Rice, Jalen Wright and we discussed Breece Hall and Trey
Harris. Do we have the Chargers
receivers? Do you feel like we've got that
lock down like Keenan Allen, Quentin Johnston, Mcconkey?
Of course. Johnson became free people once
he got concussed and. Yeah, I'm not interested.
People are out. I I only have, I only have three
Chargers. I only have three Chargers
receivers ranked in my top 200 and those three are Ladd
Mcconkey, Keenan Allen and Keiondre Lambert.
Smith Yeah, let's go right side of history, Jacob.
Didn't even get to him. The two guys here, I want to
talk about Quinton Judkins. Maybe this will change now
because the latest news It made no sense that he was following
basically back-to-back to. Where he?
Was dropped prices like I don't understand what was going on
with that. You know there was slash is I
guess still some risk of of exempt list suspension whatever.
I don't think it's we're not out of the woods yet until we get
the tweet that says the NFL's concluded its investigation and
there'll be no discipline. But like depends how the worst
case the worst. Yeah, that's true.
The worst case scenario was off the board as soon as they drop
the charge. And I was I was bearish on
Judkins at that prior to that. But like the bet fundamentally
changed, got way better and then and then everyone treated like,
oh, we're just right back to where we were.
I it's been crazy. I've been drafting the shit out
of him in like the one fifties, one 60s.
I don't I don't get it. It's been really weird.
I think he's been a mass of late value.
And then Rashi Rice just like clearly became a better pick
after the 6th game was announced.
Like before that tweet, he might get 8, he might get 10.
We don't know when it's going to happen.
It might come in the middle of the season when you have bye
weeks and injuries. It might include playoff games
in in weeks 1517. That's not likely, but that was
possible. It could have.
Been less. I don't think it could have been
less. I don't think it could have been
less like it could have been less.
Maybe when he first took the plea, I I was always on 6.
I never really believed the four stuff, but I to me it basically
was after he came to the plea agreement, he wound up getting
like 90% of the best case scenario and after the Adam
Schefter September 30th tweet happened, he got like the 100th
percentile outcome and yet he's still declining half round.
I think it's. 100th would have been like a 2 gamer or a four
gamer, right? I mean he's still but like I
think. Was that really on the on the
board after the whole like the NF LS pushing for 10 games like
stuff? Not yeah, it was very likely.
I would say 4 was maybe, you know, given that he got six
there, there must have been like some small chance of four,
right? I I don't know, I don't think it
was 100 percentile outcome. But at the same time, like you
kind of knew he was going to fall, you know, because people
aren't paying that much attention.
It's never priced in. Like this was one where I saw
the initial reaction as as bullish.
I saw Jacob that you were, you were like, hell yeah.
Let's go looking in the Discord. People are excited.
And for a second I was like, damn, is, is he actually gonna
rise? And then I thought, no, it's
never priced in. He's gonna fall like he, he's
gonna fall 'cause people just, they see the suspended tag on,
on DraftKings, they, they're like, this dude's this dude's
gonna miss six games. I'm supposed to take this guy
right now. He's gonna miss the first six
games. Like knowing the certainty in
your heart that he's definitely gonna miss the first six games.
I think people just have a hard time clicking it, even though
it's irrational. And if anything, the fact that
certainty is actually good because previously you might
miss eight games or 10 games in playoff weeks like you're
saying. But yeah, it's it's, it's crazy
to me. It's never priced in because
it's never priced in. It's.
Never. It's never once in the history
of fantasy football and underdog Ben priced in.
And it in part because like, if, if maybe we like, what if we
went ran one of these tournaments backwards so that
like, the people who draft in August drafted first.
And then it, it got to May and it was less people and they were
all super nerds then it might be priced in.
But it's the, it's the fact that it's like new people are coming
in who've paid way less attention and they're like, oh,
it's just going to be spending six games.
No thanks. Like, yeah, they, they, they,
they take Jacoby Myers over him. He's not.
He's not suspended. I mean, I'm not like jamming
Rashi like in my final run of drafts here, like the puppy and
stuff. I wouldn't say I'm like jamming
Rashi Rice because the bands of what can happen with your team
when one of your first 7 or 8 picks is guaranteed to miss a
minimum of six games is just wider because you have you.
You need more to go your way. You need your sequencing of wide
receiver points and flex points to be better.
But obviously Rice will be one of the guys you would like.
All right, we're checking our teams in week 16 like, oh shit,
man, I got I got some semi finals in and Roshi Rice happens
to be on this team. You're jazzed about it.
He's probably one of the players you would most like to find on
your team. He just, you know, makes.
It Rice is going to score, he's going to score so well down the
stretch though, that like, OK, let's imagine a world where he
was an 18 round pick. He all the sudden then would be
like an advance rate hammer. Yeah, yeah.
So like where is that line? It's it's lower as in later in
the draft than where he currently is being drafted,
right? Sure, but like isn't isn't the
beauty of it that you get like I I accept even in the sixth
round, unless we get like unless Rashi Rice comes back and it's
like a round one value. I don't think he's gonna have a
great advance rate. That's fine.
I'm not really that worried about my advance rate.
I'm not sure he's gonna have like a super bad advance rate
though. It might not, no, it might not
be horrible, but I get that the. Well, every slap Dick drafter on
the platform is the one with a big bag of rice so that it could
be. It could be the Edo Benjamin's
cat. But.
In Yeah, that's how well did Harold Pannon do?
He'll also have a bat. He'll also have a bad advance
rate because like, there's no way to separate his advance rate
now versus his advance rate when he's around the second round.
Like those Round 2. That's true.
Those Round 2 rice seems like obviously the advance rate's
gonna be like horrendous. So I I can I can guess that his
advance rate's not gonna be that great.
Out of even out of the six, unless he's like unbelievable
when he comes back. But isn't that kind of the
point? Like you draft the portfolio of
teams and you're going to get a player ideally, like Ben made a
great point in his post. He's a little bit more bearish
on the rice stuff. He's like, you know, we don't
know that he's just going to come back and be last year's
rice. And it's true, we don't.
But like the the theory of the bet is we get round two
production level Rushy Rice, we get them in round 6.
And you don't have the ownership of any other player who entering
playoffs is a round two level producer out of round six.
You get actually like round eight quality production,
advance rate with round two quality production.
And so you're not going to be in pools like if, if any other
round six pick. If if Roma Doonsday performs
like a round two pick this year, he will be owned incredibly in
the playoff weeks and it's going to be very difficult to separate
on the basis of Rome. You're going to need your other
players to do that. Whereas Rice can be both one of
your best projecting players in the playoff weeks and not
particularly highly owned. Like that just matters to me a
lot. That is nice, but the problem,
the problem there is that unless you're able to advance Rice at a
higher rate in the field, that means you're going to have that
guy lower owned because you have fewer teams than most people.
So, so you create kind of like, you know, yeah, he, he could
give you leverage, but you need that leverage.
He needs to have a big week in, in 1516 to make up for the fact
that you don't have as many bullets.
Now I I do think there's ways like I think if, if you build
smart with Rice, you could probably increase the advance
rate compared to you know what you the expected advance rate
for that player in the sixth round.
I think he's a pretty good pick. I don't think he's a smash, but
I think he's a pretty good pick in the sixth round.
There's weird dudes who fall now like waddle fell to me in the
6th. I took Waddle.
I know I've. Been getting, I've been getting
like James Conner in the 6th for like the last like 24 hours,
yeah. Yeah, 011.
Last thing. This is like a a niche thing.
Everybody is mad that Rishi Rice plays Denver in Week 17.
I think that's a bad matchup. Do people not know where Rashi
Rice lines up? Jacob these these people, man,
this is this is like. Ascertain is never going to
cover Rashi Rice. He's going to be covering
Worthy, or he's going to be covering Hollywood, or like he's
going to be covering whoever is stapled outside.
Rashi Rice is playing inside. He's going to be running against
the fucking white guy. You're, you are making a classic
mistake here of trying to meet people at a place that they
don't understand. You're you're, you're like
these. These people have never had a
critical thought, literally. Last week 17, the most dominant
player who, like, won everybody, everything was T Higgins because
he was the wide receiver playing Denver against.
Not certain. Yeah, like, that's what you
want. You want the wide receiver
against Denver who's not lining up against the best corner in
the league. It's a great match up.
Yeah, that's only also this other thing happens.
And I actually, I actually noticed this is more you, you
see this more often than college football.
People say that, oh, in baseball we stack games.
That's not a great game, as Charlie says, something that you
always have to understand. Even in this version of the NFL
where for the first time ever EPA per play on rushes was
positive passing volume is down. Offenses passing the ball still
have a distinct advantage no matter how bad it gets.
Passing the ball is just easier than running and offenses have
an advantage because defenses are reactive.
It it literally is like the simplest toy game of all time.
If you started to do game theory with football, you would it you
would realize that in every scenario the offense has the if
the Chiefs are in a position due to game script and that game
just scored 35 points, they're going to be able to score 35
points. And it's much more to do about
the decisions of the Chiefs coaching staff and of how the
Denver offense itself does that. Like good defenses can get
smoked all the time. It's.
Just the nature. Of how it goes.
Yeah, I don't. I don't think that's necessarily
a bad game. I don't think we know.
We like, we just. Don't we don't know?
We, we, we literally, we literally don't know.
Yeah, we literally. We know that these guys are
playing each other. We know that both offenses are
exciting. Both offenses could pretty
easily push each other. Bo Nicks could take a big step
forward this year in his second season.
Sean Payton has been pretty into the past throughout his career.
Not not as much recently, but he had Sean Payton, the dregs of
Russell Wilson and a rookie. Yeah, he's one of the best play
callers in the NFL. In in football history.
Yeah, So I, I think this is the idea of a there's a comment here
about their play style. I mean, I don't know, like they
their play style, I guess you're saying from the last couple
years that he's been in Denver, but his play style before that
was was pretty different. And yeah, so I I.
The Denver Broncos were league average in yards last year.
They were 10th in the NFL in points.
They were league average in yards per play.
So again, these are just things that are not true.
These are assumptions you're making, but they're just,
they're really just not true. They're not.
I write these matchups up every week.
It's hard as hell. It's so hard to get it right.
I I would never, ever write up the week 17 matchups.
Now that would be crazy. That would be like, what are we
talking about? We just don't know.
I mean, there's going to be there's going to be cluster
injuries all over the league. There's going to be offensive
guys that get hurt. There's going to be offensive
lines that are way worse. There's going to be, you know,
the defensive lines that aren't going to be able to generate any
kind of pass rush. Like great matchups are going to
seem horrible. Awful matchups are going to seem
like the nuts, like it's just a million things are going to
happen until we get there. I just don't.
And and the other thing is, it's not like if this was like the
Browns, you know, versus the Packers or something, if that
was the week, the actual one, the Steelers is.
I'll, I'll just, I will never, I will just never, ever forget
freaking Browns Jets Week 17 two years ago.
I'll net, I'll just outside, just outside by the freaking
lake in it was like it was like 35° and it was just like you get
100 yards, you get 100 yards. Bruce Hall just just insanity.
I I just I I obviously I buy that some games project to be
really good like Detroit, Minnesota, I think I think
Detroit, Minnesota. It's just really hard for me to
imagine that just being a bad game for fantasy.
But to because. It's indoors.
Because it's indoors. Like we just know that.
They're yeah, I agree with that for indoors and like they.
Detroit and Minnesota played each other in week 18 last year
and the game sucked. Like Jamir Gibbs had a great
game, but I don't think anybody else did anything.
Yep. Yep.
Yeah, and I mean, The funny thing is Detroit's defense was
all banged up then. So.
Right, You even had that. Yeah.
I mean, it would be pretty shocking if the Browns and the
Steelers was a great game because those offenses both look
like they stink and they're going to try to win with
defense. So it's not.
Like that could that could be The Who cares bowl.
I, I think 10. I, I think like probably the
best who cares bowl is going to be giants Raiders.
That's that's what I think is going to be The Who cares bowl.
But it could be the the Browns and the Steelers.
Yeah, great call back on that. It's really when, for my
purposes, Davis exploded on the scene with that summer of El
Nino, Browns, Jack. It happened without Cooper, who
had gone off or what, 200 yards? The Yeah, he had 60 points the
week before and then missed the final.
Missed the final? Incredible.
Denver is maybe the biggest favorite in the league in Week
1. Dobbins, Harvey.
Any thoughts about the backfield going in?
I think they'll both be involved.
I think Dobbins is the better start week 1.
Yeah, sad, but sad but true. And by the way, you mentioned
Connor Davis, man, easily foreseeable 2 touchdowns and 100
yards at New Orleans this week for him.
He's a. He's a absolutely massive smash.
Do we do we want to talk at all about Breece or, or is that just
pretty well warned territory at this point?
I'm slurping the dipperino on breeze man.
Fifth round breeze. Yeah.
I've been slurping. I've been slurping.
It's crazy to me.
That's crazy. This is there's, there's certain
takes we all know are going to look so dumb, like the the type
of thing that we're all going to like pretend we didn't think,
you know, in three or four months.
Like I knew obviously I knew that was that was all just, you
know, summer bullshit. I would nominate this is is did
the Braille and Allen's actually like the jet starter and Bruce
Hall's behind Isaiah Davis stuff.
Is is the one that people won't even admit they thought back in
back in the summer? I don't think that it's summer
bullshit like I think that there is truth to the plan.
I just. I agree I.
Just think going in the fifth round now, like it is,
especially when he falls and he often falls lower than this 48.8
that's listed like or 48.4. Like he he's frequently
following to like the mid. I got him in the sixth round a
few days ago. And like, you know, at that
point, it's like the talent bat or the talent opportunity cost
is so much lower. Like, you know, he's going
against names that I don't really think can kill me.
And Breece Hall is a guy who has shown the ceiling where he can
kill you if it's if he just even if this is the plan, like even
if. Yeah, people someone brought up
Dalvin Cook in the chat, right? Two years ago, Breece was
falling like this. People were concerned with the
injury. They're concerned about Cook.
And he didn't have that great of a role early in the season.
It was a lot of Michael Carter on 3rd downs and it was a lot of
Dalvin Cook rotating in. And then Breece just proved
himself to be infinitely better than these other goofs.
And the workload followed. And I think it is at least quite
possible that whatever the plan is the first month of the
season, Breece Hall plays Braylon Allen and Isaiah Davis
off the field and is a workhorse and absolutely rules at around 5
costs that. Do I wish that I didn't take as
much of them at the 3-4 turn as I did?
Yes. But do I think he is still
objectively a great bat in round five?
Absolutely. Yeah, I I agree in that people
are not making this up. Like there's there's reporting
and evidence that they really do plan to use a committee out of
the gate. I just think that like we should
be able to see how that's going to go.
This is a team that's like you look at win totals, you're like,
Oh yeah, The Jets are probably be pretty bad.
They're not going to they're not going to be dictating the run to
people. And then are they?
Are they going to be the big, big question for The Jets that I
think is probably is kind of dividing people like I think
talking to Gretch in our in our draft, the 5K team and Leone.
I think they're on the other side of this for me, where I
don't think that The Jets are very likely to just be one of
these teams that kind of turtles up like an Arthur Smith team and
refuses to pass the ball. No, I don't.
Think so. If they do that's and maybe
that's overstating where they're at, but they're I think both
expecting not a ton of passing volume and I don't think that's
how they're going to play it. I think they're going to be kind
of more like, you know, like kind of like we're more like
where the Cardinals were last year or something where they're
they want to run the ball, but they're they are willing to pass
the ball because they're losing there.
This is a team that's going to have to have to throw the ball
to stay in games. And I think if that if that's
true, then all of a sudden Bree starts to look like a really,
really strong pick in the fifth round because they don't have
anyone to throw to outside of Garrett Wilson.
It's Mason Taylor's probably the number 2 downfield target, or
it's Josh Reynolds. But either way, they need they
need people who can make plays and Breece Hall getting in the
ball underneath like that could end up being like one of the
most effective plays they've got so.
Almost certainly will be one of the most effective plays they
have. Yeah, yeah, he's going to catch
a lot of balls. Week 1 will be really
interesting to tell their home to Pittsburgh.
Implied total is around 18 points for The Jets, so if they
look any good, that could get pretty exciting.
Before we go any further, just want to mention I don't want to
forget to do this. The plan going forward here, we
will be passing the baton as it's as Pete put it, to the stat
chasing team starting next Tuesday at this time, but we
will reconvenely. Cancelled.
That we will be back together the first Tuesday of each month.
They're they're giving us that. So we'll be back after today and
we're not done today, but in a in a month, first Tuesday of
every month. The ship cast is moving to
Sunday afternoons. I love that as a fan of yours
Sundays for that late window. This actually this Sunday will
be at 3:00. So you know, early games will
not be over yet Eastern Time and then next Tuesday they're they
go at night, I think stat chasing.
So Tuesday nights YouTube members can watch live.
Otherwise it'll be public on Wednesdays.
So look forward to watching those guys.
You know, semi cancel that cancel, but not really Jacob.
I mean we've got we've got life purgatory.
We've. Got life I I found I found this
out because I tweeted my content schedule out and then I was
informed that. That the network exec came came.
Down came. Down you.
Will not be going live on Tuesday morning.
I was like you. I remembered watching you guys
into the season last year. Yeah.
Well, because it turns out, it turns out we.
Did and me, Karen? Yeah.
Pete tried to gaslight. Us.
No, I didn't forget. Didn't forget Karen just didn't
want to work on Tuesday mornings anymore.
That's correct. I I forgot.
We did it.
I felt like I was being gasped like he.
Was like, what are you guys talking about?
Like we've never done ADP chasing in season.
I'm like that's not true. I've I've guested on ADP chasing
in season like I I listen to it every week.
First, I was excited to have my Tuesday morning and then I was
curious to see how this interaction was going to go
knowing that you are 100% right. And I was like, how does Pete
not remember that we did this? A lot of he's got a lot of balls
in the air. His defense, That's cute, yes.
So you guys will all be on Sundays?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll all be on Sundays.
I'll open the door free. Easter on whenever free.
Easter it's we're doing an hour early this week.
That's what he told me this morning was starting at 3.
Sounds good. Starting at 3.
Next up, we've got Carolina. We talked about this a little
bit, but Thielen being traded to Minnesota and he, what's any
interest in him at all? Slide.
Yes. Oh, here we go.
OK. Panthers shake up.
It's actually. It's actually like horrible for
him in basketball mania because he will be like the ninth option
on the Vikings in the money weeks.
It's it's really not ideal. Maybe it's Sanders.
It's good for Sanders. Is Thielen, Yeah, it's very good
for Sanders. Is it, is it possible that we
are going to see like, is Adam Thielen going to earn more
targets than TJ Hawkinson in weeks, in the playoff weeks?
I don't. I don't think so.
No, no, probably not. Odds that they're both on the
field I don't need. Yeah, he's the fourth option,
arguably the fifth behind Aaron Jones.
Yeah, I think I don't the feeling thing.
It sucks for him. You know, maybe I'll get off to
a fast start, but not not into it.
And then for the Panthers, yeah, the guy that I really love is JT
Sanders. I've always been pretty in on
him this year. But like, especially now, no
feeling, no Coker. I just have zero, like, faith in
Xavier Lee. Yeah, I think he stinks and I'm
pretty confident about that. So to me, it's it's it's tat I
think should be like an early third round pick.
And I think JT Sanders is the cheapest tight end who you can
very plausibly see being the number 2 target on his team.
Pretty, pretty excited. About it in in my final five DK
best ball millionaire makers. How clickable do you think
Hunter Renfro is? Oh, oh, I think I'm just going
to get the check here. I think I'm.
Glad. I'm glad we're not doing this in
season. That's your That's your Week 1
starting wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers, Hunter
Renfro. Hunter Renfro has the highest
points per game fantasy football season of any player currently
on the Panthers roster right now.
So disingenuous. So we're not we're.
Not literally that. That literally could be the most
disingenuous thing I've. Ever saw it's a rookie?
No, no, you. Have.
So many more disingenuous. Put it on the pile.
Another second year receiver was a UDFA.
I think the most genuine thing you've ever said was I don't
care about Chris Rodriguez. He's 27.
No, that literally doesn't make the top of.
Interest. That's where the literally is.
Yeah, that's I'm lying, Lying about age.
Lying about age is just any guy. Any guy I don't like at a
minimum of 18 months to his age. Any guy I like subtract a
minimum of nine months from his age.
Like if we were creating a highlight reel, we would just
like be like, pretty quickly, like, all right, let's get a
couple aged things in here just to like, you know, acknowledge
those. But like, we can't, the whole
thing can't just be this guy's 27.
He's 23, actually. Carolina at Jacksonville in Week
1. I'm saying it, dude.
What what's what's Renfro's route participation week 1?
Tommy Tramble's banged up, might not play. 65.
Percent. We're locked in.
We are locked in, Jacob. Hopefully it's to the truth.
Hopefully it's to the truth, I'm just saying I just want you guys
to think about it. Our next slide, I'm going to
think about it. We mentioned Judkins for a
minute. Jalen Warren doesn't really mean
a lot. Jacob, the contract.
I don't think it means that much for this year.
I guess that means something for like Caleb Johnson's dynasty
value. It's not like they gave him like
some massive contract. No, they gave him.
They gave him a. $1,000,000 a year.
They basically just they gave him a slight raise on the tender
he was already making this year. They gave him like.
Jack Moss Money. And then they extended their
their rights to the services. Like, I don't know, like that's
like it doesn't, I don't view this as like a starting
contract. I view this as a I view Jalen
Warren the same way that I view Jalen Warren all offseason,
which is that they view him as a role player who is capable of
being the starter if Caleb Johnson is not ready to be the
starter. And I think that Caleb Johnson
will be prove himself to be ready very quickly.
And so that's fine. And if he doesn't, then yeah,
Warren can continue to patrol more touches.
You're locked in, Jacob. You're locked in right now, bro.
Like you're just your last two takes.
So good. Judkins love the wording on the
the slide on the right. Judkins could be back with the
team as soon as this week. It implies that he's actually
been with the team ever. You So what you well, he did he
did OTAs what you have to know he's.
Wearing the Browns hoodie right there.
What you have to know about the Browns is that Mary Kay Cabot,
the Browns fans hate Mary Kay Cabot.
She just, she just like just is always wrong about about Browns
related stuff. Doesn't even say anything.
Could be back with the team as soon as this week.
OK, I I could have said that. Speaking, Speaking of Mary Kay
Cabot, she wrote something the other week that I think you
could really interpret as a threat, which was that she said
Deshaun Watskin, Deshaun Watson has been looking really good.
And Andrew Barry, Kevin Stefanski and Jimmy Haslam are
watching him practice the other day.
And the quote was they'll have a decision to make on him at the
end of October. Whoa.
Missed that is that is that the most?
Threatening. Oh my God.
Sentence you've ever. Heard.
That is threatening. That is threatening.
That's threatening. That's threatening, dude.
No one, no one wants that. No the dude like.
Watson wants that, I'll say. I'll say one more thing on the
Browns running backs, like, OK, if if you think the judgments
should have been following this whole time, why is Samson also
following? Like Samson has been steadily
falling ever since the charges were dropped, which makes sense.
And then nothing happened to like get Jenkins back with the
team. So he's just been steadily
crashing since then. But Samson hasn't really moved
up. He's just been stable and Ford
hasn't really moved up. So we now just have the
situation where there's two exciting rookies and they're
both have AD PS in the one 40s. Like I, I just doesn't make any
sense. You can take both of them.
I'll just take. If I'm on the turn and they're
both there, I'll just take both. I I got to be, I got to be
honest, Crane, I do not like that move.
Oh, I like that. Why don't you like that move
we're talking about like AA14 pick?
I just too, like, I guess I view it as AI guess I view it, I view
it as a what do you win when you win situation.
And I want my bets on the Browns to be kind of maxed.
Yeah, at 1:00. I want a lot more running back
production than I can than I can normally count on for those two
picks if I take 2 running backs in that spot because I need
running. Backs.
That's fair. I get a lot more production out
of those two picks than I normally do.
Yeah, I wouldn't like I guess I wouldn't say I like think it is
wrong from a strategy perspective.
I just wouldn't find my. I don't think I have done that
more than three or four times for the entirety of the of you
know what, you know what move I do like that I bet you guys will
hate is I have taken Pearson, Marks Chubb and Marks Chubb and
Pierce. I I've taken two of the Texans
guys together. That's fine.
I'm not doing it, but I don't. Have more faith in the Browns
running game than I do in the Texans running game.
Stefanski is a good Stefanski is a good run game schemer.
Their own line is not good buddy.
They can. They can run block and I think
that they have talent in their backfield.
I think all three, like I think any of the three Browns backs
would be like several tiers of talent better than any running
back on the Houston Texans. Immediately.
Yeah. Yeah, even Ford.
Yeah, Joel, Joel is pointing out that the non MKC reporting on
Samson has been terrible. Yes, Yeah, it's basically
everyone who reports on the Browns is like, this is the
smallest man alive. It's a it's a miracle that he's
able to drive a human sized car because he's so small, tiny.
They can, they can say that all they want, but he started the
last preseason game with the starters and he looked awesome.
So I I. He is my most drafted.
I I believe this, this will, this will be a fun Fact Check of
myself in real time. Who is Davis Maddock's most
drafted? Cleveland Brown.
It better be it better be Fannin.
It isn't. It's Judkins.
Wow, Judkins 12% and then a bunch of a bunch of eight
percenters. I've heard that that he's so
small stuff too from from Dylan Sampson but he's 200 lbs.
I'm surprised he looks that's he's 5/8 which is really I guess
where him looking small is coming from but.
You know you guys make fun of me for being vibes based but maybe
his vibes are just small dude. No, he's the opposite of vibes
are small. He had the best short yardage
conversion of any back. He had 22 touchdowns in the SEC.
He's the SEC offensive. Player OK, I refuse.
I just, no, I don't think Tennessee numbers.
Last last year, last year, our offense was fucking garbage.
Nico couldn't complete a pass and he's a traitorous little a
hole, and we had to have Dylan Sampson carry that fucking team
to the College Football playoffs on his five foot eight, £200
back. This is not Jalen Wright, this
is a grown ass man man in a little man body who did
everything he could to power that team to great heights.
People like Jalen Wright never got more than 150 touches.
He stinks. Dylan Sampson had like 260
carries and had 22 touchdowns on like 30 short yardage
opportunities. Completely different player that
people are associating with previous Tennessee back.
Sampson is a big boy runner for that team that had to grind out
yardage. It's it's disrespectful.
Bam, I forgot that was an hour for you.
Tennessee what? Does anyone?
I did drop an hour.
I did. Drop an hour on that.
Is anyone buying that? Yeah.
Anyway, I'm trying to buy. My most have to bounce back is
obviously dull, Samsung my most. I like Samsung, This is why I'm
willing to drop both of them cuz I think Samsung I'm like yeah.
You know, what was the most bearish thing was when Dylan
Sampson said I don't like to get tackled.
I remember reading that quote. I remember reading that quote
and being like, well, that's not great.
I don't love that. That's the.
Travis, ETN. Energy.
Yeah, yeah. For those in the chat, someone
asked how the hell I end up a Vols fan.
It's simple. I I'm a Colts fan.
I looked up when I was 8 years old.
I went to Google. I said where did Peyton Manning
go to college? And it said the University of
Tennessee. And so I decided to root for the
University of Tennessee. Good enough for me.
How did you become a cults fan? Peyton Manning, they were on a
lot when I was like 6 and it seemed really fun because they
were always scoring points. Yeah.
All right. Yeah.
Also fine reason. Credit to me as we move to the
next slide for not having any idea who this is with Bonex.
So again, shout out to me for having to look that up, which I
have done, but absolutely no idea who that is now.
I now I know. That's that's It's easy to
subterfuge American democracy on state credit.
I love that they put the $5200 on after.
Incredible. I I think Bo Nicks has been a
right wing pick the whole time, yeah.
Bo Nicks is definitely a right wing slappy pick for sure.
Has been the whole time. Yeah, Yeah, he has.
Are we doing? Are we doing last call?
We are doing last call because it is the last fall for last
call. Do you have an obligation to say
who this is for the listeners? No, yeah, no.
No. No.
Don't say it. OK, so last.
Call Smarly Shark. One one thing I know is that
dude could not bench press his body weight just looking at him.
Yeah, what a small little fella. All right, last call.
Last call for I didn't I wasn't here last episode.
Did I get assigned someone or do I have to pick two people?
I think you got to pick 2. OK, I got to pick two.
I didn't get this Migatori Afton's just.
He's already been taken, right or no.
He was taken and then untaken earlier in the season by Pat.
Yeah. All right, you want him.
No, no, no, I don't want to. Ethnicism.
All right, I'll do my I'll do my makeup pick first, I guess.
And then we can go back around the horn and I'll go laugh after
that. My my entire team.
At the very least all these dudes did make the 53 man
roster. Nope Nope, wrong.
Not estimate. Estimated.
Not that's right. How do I follow?
Jordan of of this that's so. Funny Philadelphia practice
squad for estimate. Yep.
You were, you were bet you were good at this, Corrine.
You, you, you. I think honestly I'm the only
one that really just outright. Failed.
He made. He made the worst.
Trade on the. Street but me, right?
No, I I won the trade. I got, I got Dylan.
Sanchez. No, he got the better of it.
Oh, OK, well then Jacob did. Somebody in this room made the
worst trade in the history of this game.
Well, OK, I would, I would like to go.
I I would, I would like to go before I get snapped off.
I I'm going to take Dontavian Wicks.
I I don't see him on anymore. No, I already have him.
That's slap demon. Yeah, slap demon.
Gosh. Darn it, I'll take, I'll take
Isaac Gorendo. OK, Pretty good.
He's in the 2. Hundreds make up pick.
Man. He really isn't at 2:00. 100
yeah, I really did not. I really did not have much of an
idea outside of that. Maybe.
While you guys are thinking, one week when I was absent I picked
Pat Fryermuth. I had Matt Waldman on my WGR
show last week and his sort of a throwaway line that Fryermuth
will lead the Steelers in touchdowns.
I I'm not buying that. If it's close, it's still.
I'm I'm not buying that in any way shape or form was.
It going to have three. With three, yeah, I didn't even
get to. Finish with oh I I see what
happened. They gave me Ricky person for
last week. Now I understand what Zach did.
I'm going. There's no one left to take.
There's no one left. There's no one left to take.
I'll take DeAndre Hopkins. That's who.
OK, that was that was I said I had a right wing slappy guy and
that was who I was going to take.
That could be it should be 6 touchdowns about that.
Again, is my or are my? OK, I was about to take Turpin.
He's already been selected. Yeah, slurping the Turpin.
You know what, I'll do a bit. We're we're at the end here.
I'll do a bit and I've already lost this.
Anyways, I will select Taekwon Thornton.
Nice. That could be a thing.
I, I I I failed at this exercise.
I'm looking at this room and I see a bunch of a bunch of
rookies, young players. Someone's got to show these guys
the ropes. Someone's got to teach them
things about life, about the real estate market.
I'm going to take Tyler Lockett. Nice.
Has he not been drafted? I don't think so.
I. Don't see him?
Guys with ADPS of 200 or higher, Lockett, Hopkins, Grendo and I
got one more pic you do? Because Grendo is replacing
Ricky Person, but you can go for a show I'll.
I'll go. I'm done, Hopkins.
Oh right. So does anybody else have so
it's just me and then left? It's all you last.
Call last pick is the whole summer I think.
What a moment. I think I'm most in need of a
wide receiver because Deonte isn't playing and I basically
yeah, it's not great at the wide receiver session, but I don't
know if I have any viable wide receiver.
Yes, it is pretty much moot at this point.
Isn't it like fun idea for a while?
But if you know why over on last call?
I'll I'll end it on. I'll end this on a very right
wing slappy note. Go.
We're going to, you know, we're going to cross the political
spectrum. It's easy to take Alamidae
Zacchaeus in last call. No, no, Jacob.
Jacob. I need her.
It's. So bad you can't.
It's so right wing toned. It's.
So bad. It's so bad for me if this hits.
Perfect. That's for perpetuity, right
boys? How?
You end it. Incredible.
Holy shit. What's left Davis, what we got
going today, this week? Swolcast right after this, our
first DFS Slate preview of the season.
Is that not, is yesterday not such a great day when you start
to get into like week 1 projections?
It's just a page being completely turned over.
I just loved yesterday for that. You're the projections are all
popping match ups. My, my brain, my brain is, my
brain is not there yet, man. I'm literally drafting at DK
Basketball Millie right now. Like I I I'm not fully in week 1
yet. I very much.
I'll get there, yeah. Swell cast today, Jacob.
For me, yeah, I mean we got Dynasty points tonight as
always. And then it'll be thinking about
DFS on Thursdays with Davis. It will be the underdog Waiver
show is out. We did our first episode
yesterday. That'll be every Monday night in
season, of course, the ship cast and then thinking about thinking
on the bulk of the in season content is the hitchhiker's got
to running back. It's a 2 parter.
We do a recap every Tuesday morning.
We do the Look Ahead streamer stock watch every Saturday, and
then I'll sprinkle in some dynasty content.
They'll be probably like one to two per month on the site of
sort of Evergreen strategy pieces that I'll mix in.
And I'll also be doing some freelance dynasty content for
The Athletic this fall, so. Nice.
Awesome. Very good.
Wow. Paywall, paywall, Jacob, they're
calling. Him trim the hedges, then what
for you today? I'm going to be writing up the
walkthrough which will be out Friday morning.
Steph's waiver wire article is out now.
If you want to get ready for your first waiver wire runs, the
pre season waiver run on FFPC. We will have Matt Irby's going
to be doing the Thursday night and Friday night games this week
with the quick slant and then back for for the Monday night or
the Sunday night game as well. I think I'm probably doing the
Monday night game write up this week.
I'll do like a mini walkthrough on that podcast with with Davis
Neil score patrol over on 4 for four on Friday, DFS pod and then
not officially announced yet, but going to be doing another
pod on Friday with our buddy Reeves and we're going to be
talking through the game by game preview stuff.
So that'll be that'll be a fun addition.
Official announcement on that to come soon.
But yeah, and then Shipcast join us for the late window on
Sundays. Sounds like everybody will be
busy. I've got my WGR show in Buffalo,
which you can watch on YouTube and Twitch, by the way, three to
seven weekdays, Eastern Tuesdays.
Today, Ross Tucker is on every week.
And you know, lots of great guests.
Focus on the Bills who host the Ravens.
Sunday night shouldn't be boring.
It has been a pleasure this season again.
We'll be back first Tuesday of each month going through the NFL
season as a group. Stat Chasing takes our slot,
although it'll be Tuesday nights and that again starting next
week. Free and available for YouTube
members. Otherwise, it'll go public on
Wednesdays. Guys have had so much fun.
We'll keep it going in about a month and then we'll see each
other in the streets. Thanks for watching.
Hang on, I got to get this thing up all right later.