Good morning from Western New York football weather.
I'm Mike Show today should be interesting with all the cuts
happening around the NFL. We'll discuss it know Jacob
Sanderson. Today it's myself and our
slappiest slappies. Pat Kerane, Davis Maddock, our
heroes 9 days to the season opener.
This is ADP chasing August 26th, 2025.
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Stay poor. Actually back in if it's
Austinette. It's here to our crystal ball.
Close your eyes, you know all your entries are going to lose.
Anyway, yeah. That's fair.
You're not going to tell me all this way I was here.
It's. Anti cabal.
It's anti the best ball thought leader.
I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a
lot of both of these guys. It's the most disgusting thing
you can make, but. Man.
Good morning friends. I've been in Louisville for a
few days. Or Southern Indiana, I guess,
technically for the Kentucky Fantasy Football State
Championships. Really fun.
I met some fans of yours. You're in southern Indiana.
I was yesterday. OK, yes, the Southern Indiana
State Championships. It's the Kentucky fantasy
football state championships in southern Indiana.
Yes, technically, but so many people, I mean five came up to
me to say like, you know, actually Pete in the discord, I
think sarcastically was like people went up to you and said,
are you Mike show from ADP chasing?
I'm like literally, yes, that's what people said.
One gentleman named Tom was very complimentary.
And I'm like, yeah, my guys are really smart and great and so
much fun to be with. And then he said something like,
they must make things really easy for you.
I'm like. Well.
I wouldn't exactly say that, but it was a great weekend and it's
redraft season. You know, for making it easy for
you. What's the point?
I'm supposed to make it easier for you I think.
That's what they say. Davis with the Seals jersey.
Yeah, it's not it's it's not as it's 'cause it's so big.
It's not great. But there I did get my
California Golden Seals jersey. Love it, that was a real team.
That's a sweet jersey. It is.
Yeah, real team. So I looked them up.
They they were like a real team but no longer exist.
They're, I believe they're the San Jose Sharks now.
I believe they no. No, no, no.
I mean, they might have become the Rockies, then the Devils or
maybe they went the Barons to the something's route.
But the the Sharks were brand new when they came into the
league in the early 90s and that's.
You shop shop is correct. They then became the California.
They then became the Cleveland Barons, and then they became
defunct. The Kansas City Scouts, then the
Minnesota North Stars, then the Dallas Stars eventually.
So I, I did, I did learn this though, which is that looking
for this gear, which is that the San Jose Sharks to do a every
year they do a California golden seals night.
So you can get Sharks slash seals merchandise on on eBay.
They were the Oakland Seals and the Knox's wanted to own them, I
think, or get into NHL expansion.
Then they settled for the Sabres.
Something like that. Sad, sad.
All right, again, I really, I really get how Tuttle feels now.
It's almost nice when you guys talk cocky because there's like
messages. I haven't, you know, it's early
in the morning here, it's 7:00 AM, so I'm catching up on some
Discord messages and. It's like you guys talking
Pokémon. Yeah.
Has enough Before we get into the many things there are to
talk about today, has enough been said about our main event
draft, which was the last time we were on together?
I've heard you both say separately that you have warmed
up to this team. I was always warmed.
I was warmed to the team from the beginning.
I mean, so like obviously we should have taken Kyron over
Treyvion. Team Three, I'm sorry.
I don't think so, man. I was listening to to Jordan
Rodrigue, who's been going around to the various camps as
part of her her new gig with the athletic and she her take away
from Patriots camp was that Trayvon Henderson is live to win
rookie of the year and just looks like absolutely amazing.
And, and she actually thinks he's going to have a big role
right away, which which I've been.
No, no, I, I think he's going to have a big role right away.
My concern is that we are doing this thing where we are
upgrading the Patriots offense, but in upgrading them, we're
taking them from like the 28th best offense last year to the
9th best offense this year. And I'm I'm wondering if it's
more like the 14th best offense, but you know, and, and we're.
Upgrading them to the 9th best offense.
I mean, their pieces are all real.
We just took their passing down specialist in the third round.
Well, that's what I mean. If he's not their passing down
specialist, then it's a different play.
And it sounds like my, my thinking was he's not going to
be their passing down specialist the whole year.
He's so much more talented than Madre Stevenson.
But you know, what if he's, what if he's actually producing
pretty well out of the gate? May I present to you their first
13 games? Please, that's.
That's a lot of games. Raiders, Dolphins, Steelers at
home, Carolina at the Bills. Maybe they're losing New
Orleans, Tennessee, Cleveland, Atlanta, Tampa, Jets, Bengals,
Giants. I mean, that's past
Thanksgiving. Yeah.
No, that's, that is better than I would have.
That's better than I would have. Pretty good.
There could be a few defenses in there that that are kind of
scary, you know, Brown's defense could be good, I guess.
Don't have to start them every week, Pat.
Because they're, they're like, they can't score points on
offense. And the defense is good and you
know, but yeah, no one in there really makes you nervous.
Well, we got the closing line value as you predicted on Jakori
Kroski Merritt at 8:10. I never see him go this late.
That's what I was just that's what I was just looking that.
That really was that. That felt almost obvious, like
oh God, what a slappy pick to take this dude who everyone's
excited about. And then it's the FFPC like I've
we've done this so long. I was.
Going to say yeah, we know. We know this happens and you
can, oh, this year's Darwin Thompson and stuff.
Darwin Thompson was, was like the third string running back on
the Chiefs. He was like barely, you know,
like there was no, it was all just like hope that one day he
could become Jacory Croskey Merritt like, and he and he did
go, he he went out like in the seventh round.
I think we took Justice Hill, who was not even close to the
starter in the eighth round of a main event that year.
Like you have to pay any of these running backs with Buzz,
you have to pay for it. And, and usually it's Buzz where
they're gonna earn roles later, buzz that gets a guy roll week 1
is like, I don't know, this guy might be in the fourth round of
August of, of live drafts and. Do do you guys realize though
that this is not even our biggest win?
At I know I'll set you up. Let me set you up if you're
hopefully you're both sitting down on this very much panned
main event draft. We are looking at rounds 8
through, you know, basically kicker and defense.
There are 4 running backs and we have three-week 1 starters and
Mccaffrey's handcuff. Like Ollie Gordon, I would say
there is a chance that Ollie Gordon should potentially be
going ahead of JCM right now, just straight up.
There's still time. I, Karine, I'm, I'm this is the
you know what, Karine? You know what this reminds me
of? Very much.
This reminds me of. It's funny that we're talking
about Brian Robinson on this team.
This reminds me of when Brian Robinson was a prospect back in
the day. Ollie Gordon is going to be just
like such a perfectly freaking cromulent NFL running back.
He's going to be so like I actually think he is going to be
awesome as a between the tackles runner for this team because
that's like the one thing he could like his long speed.
He's not going to play on any passing downs, but he's going to
be better than most are better than Jeff Wilson junior better
than Jalen Wright at the stuff that a chain can't do.
I I think this is a total Jameer Gibbs, David Montgomery
situation in a way that is super complimentary.
Like I, I think Gordon can can just be if the Dolphins can
just, I know the vibes have not been good.
If the Dolphins can just be fine, Gordon is going to score a
lot of points. I, I think part of it for me is
that I think the reason for the Montgomery comp there is that
Gordon is, is big, but he's not that style of runner.
He's actually a breakaway runner. 43% breakaway rate in
2023 I. Believe and A and a 41% career
success rate, which is really low.
So his the style is that's a twenty 20th percentile success
rate. He handled a big workload.
He's still 44th percentile and successful runs per.
Game is that including all the 2024 data?
It is, yeah. It's.
All the 20. 23 which was yeah, you know, his career year, yeah,
75th percentile, breakaway percentage.
So I his success when he was good, it was because he was
ripping off long runs and he he's a he's a freight train,
right? Like he's a gigantic man.
So it's Derrick Henry stuff. It's, you know, Deonte Foreman,
maybe a bit more realistic version, but but yeah, I mean
he's he's someone that I think could be a good running back.
I'm not sure that he's like perfectly suited to be this like
grinding the. The battering.
Ram consistent battering ram like yeah like the David
Montgomery thing. So I'm a little skeptical of
that. I I get why he's he's rising.
He he's going to pass Jim Wright like for the season.
You know, Rice will come back and be the I'm.
I'm betting I'm like betting on the come here.
You know, this is like this is like you've got 7-8 suited and
you have 910 and four wheel flush as well on the turns like
OK, well, you lose that hand you you you lose you lose that hand
all the time. But like I can I can see it
enough with him with the 2023 stats and just like the size and
actually was before this. I was watching his pre season
stuff and I thought the way they used him and some of the pre
season stuff was kind of interesting because they did do
some battering ram stuff with him.
They were like well let's just see what happens.
Just run him through the tackles and there were two runs that
were like awful, like consecutive runs back-to-back
that were just like oh dude, you had no chance there.
And then 2 after that he had that.
He had a touchdown. That is like very pre season
where he just like launched himself into the end zone and I
was like, well, a chain is not doing that.
Like a Chan is not doing. And he looked, I mean, he looked
huge. He looked, he just like he just
looked massive out there. So like the last, what do we
have 9 days or whatever right here?
I, I'm, I'm like crane, I've been taking him in the
eliminator because I have all these eliminator slows that are
between like the 10th and 14th round right now.
I'm like, well, 1A Chan might not play week 1.
I mean, I think he probably will, but he might not at the at
the Colts. So I I think that I am like I
actually think he's a an eliminator ass pick to some
degree, but he's got like and you know, obviously it's so easy
before the season to be optimistic on these guys that
haven't failed you yet and Ollie Gordon has not failed me yet.
Yes, he. Didn't play college football.
I, well, I did, I did. No, no, I did, I did.
So I, I, I lived, but I, I had, I actually didn't end up
drafting very much of him just cause structurally I prefer to
take quarterback earlier. So I I did not draft very much
of him. Can I please just clarify one
thing in in a world where Seals has become sort of like a a
brand that when Davis says betting on the come, he's
referring to the game of craps. And I'm not sure this this
viewership is young enough to appreciate that 'cause he went
right into blackjack. But betting on the Comm is a is
a craps term. Well, I've always I've always
heard it as a a poker term. OK, well it is a like literally
the the word. Comms on it.
I mean it is I was gonna say it literally is it literally is
from craps. I I frankly for for casino
games, don't I'm a, I'm a poker guy.
And then if they don't have a poker table, I do roulette.
The the other games are it's like AO2 over simulating for me.
Yeah, perhaps I've I I've played, I was with someone who
actually like understood the game and it's fun, but I don't I
don't know how to play like I couldn't just show up at a craps
table and and you would mean. I I got to play.
I got to play with someone who who knows what's going.
On somebody with an 11, seven birthday, this is the game I was
born to play, and it's also behind the line in craps is the
best odds in the casino. Not that they're great, but
they're better than any any other game in the house.
Before we move on, which we should, who sets these line UPS?
This is going to be a very tricky team.
I know Stephanie is involved with the waivers.
She might run it, but I mean seriously, guys, Krosky,
Merritt, Chubb, Gordon, even of course we have Gibbs too.
That could be really and Henderson.
It could be the first week of many dicey weeks and trying to
figure out what to do line up wise.
I. Mean, I think we're starting
Chubb, right? Chubb.
Chubb will. At the Rams.
Chubb will project for the most points of that group.
But by a fraction maybe if HN, if HN is.
Out no real upside of any I mean I guess the upside is he punches
in some touchdowns but the off of the line sucks he.
Could score he. Could score if HN is out, Gordon
if. HN is out, We're starting
Gordon. Yeah, if HN is out, it's Gordon.
If HN is out, we're starting Gordon.
But I mean, the the reason I I was sort of skeptical of the the
Gordon point you're making Davis about how he could go against
Corey Cross Merritt. It's like he's he's behind.
If a Chan's in he's like fully just his backup I think.
Backup in the I mean, Crane, you wrote the legendary episode
article yesterday and you highlighted the A Chan Yeah,
upside it being 13 carries a game like there, there's work
there. There's work, you're right,
you're right. But I mean, what are we talking
about? Like he's going to have like 6
carries 7/7. They have to be not terrible.
They have to be, not they. Have to.
Be not terrible. Yeah, but.
Possible. Possible.
I think it's. Round 16.
Yeah. I just wish.
But but Bill, I guess what I'm what I'm saying is I think, I
think Bill is, is probably who I would be tempted to start if we
don't have Gordon. OK, Week 1.
Week 1, just take the leap of faith.
Mcconkey, Olave, Samuel with Daniels will want to feel like
we have to do that. Do we have to start one of those
running backs? Can we?
Can we give Mcconkey? No, we we do not have to start
any of them. I'm going to guess that Trivion
Henderson is going to project for 8.9 points.
We. We're not starting Nick Chubb
over Trivion Henderson. I, I am.
I'm saying that right now, you. Know I I I am.
Don't shoot the messenger. But again that Jacob is on this
team than when we're now discussing Nick Chubb or Trevion
Henderson Week 1. And sadly, he couldn't be here.
How? How do we decide though is the
question I need. To I I always I almost always
defer to aggregated projections unless there's a real reason to
think that they're particularly fragile for a reason.
And did you Corey Krosky merits projection?
I I bet between sources like between 1 projection source to
the other, you're going to find like 4 to 5 point discrepancies
and how much JCM is being projected.
For Yeah If if, if the projections favor Nick Chubb
over Trevion Henderson Week 1, then then Leg Up is going to
launch one week. One week, one week, one week
only Houston Texans doing. 1. Week only.
Is. We're not protecting the other
side of the game, we're just doing those two offenses.
You're you're playing Team 4. Let's say Philadelphia bombs.
I know Hertz Smith got her. Then we're playing it safer.
Maybe it's a Trump situation. There is Croskey.
That's a good point. Mike, is Croskey Merritt getting
their first snap? Who's getting their first snap?
They play the Giants home. Cut Nick Chubb and stardom and
you know what? Mac Nova.
You're right. Eckler.
Eckler, Pierce. Eckler.
'S the first running back on the field you think?
Yeah, Eckler's probably the first run back on the field or
Chris Rodriguez. I, I would, I would say that
Bill is a pretty big underdog to be the first running back.
On the I don't know, man, I'm I'm not buying.
I, I just have kind of been doing a Chris Rodriguez deep
dive in the last two weeks. I, I'm actually not at all
convinced that they even give a shit about this guy.
They have cut and waved him. They have cut or assigned him to
the practice squad. He's been on the team for two
years. They've cut him six times.
So I, I really don't, I really don't think they care about
Chris Rodriguez. It's.
Interesting that Croskey Merritt is like everybody's.
I just did these 4 high stakes in Kentucky.
He's everybody's clear cut first Washington running back and what
has he actually done? Like the the community has
decided, as I guess you know, this was more of a leverage.
Bet, but he took a job. They've just right.
That's right. They've decided that he is a
good be their favorite CI mean they they left Robinson to dust.
Like the community has decided that this is the bet to make.
I mean, Rodriguez here's Dan Quinn talking about goal line
stuff. It's Jane Daniels team and he's
going around 16 and here's Crossley Merritt going around
5:00 yesterday. It's just like we we have
decided that I guess Eckler is mostly irrelevant.
Rodriguez is like what Davis is describing and cross key merit
is like, you know, a bet where you can find gold.
I'll see if I can pull it up here.
I didn't. I did a quick search.
I couldn't find it. There was a, a clip going around
like a full month ago now or you know, three weeks anyway, of
various beat reporters at camp and there's like 7 people
interviewed. I, I think actually Ben Standig
was not one of them. And they asked them who the
standout at, at commanders camp has been.
And like 4, I think it was like 4 of 6 people said to Corey
Croskey Merritt and one of the dudes is like, he's going to be
their starter by December. Like it this is very obvious.
And that kind of like, so that is a thing that was going, that
wasn't the only that was just an example of like the level of
training camp hype that he was generating.
You were seeing it in all sorts of, you know, just like
Commander's camp was becoming about this seventh round rookie
in a way that's really rare. And then you also have this
story of they're getting rid of Brian Robinson and they're going
to trade him for 1/6 round pick. They're starting running back.
Those two things are not like separate uncorrelated events.
They're they moved on from Robinson, maybe because they
didn't think it was a good fit for the system and they didn't
really like what he did last year, but not just that they did
it because they felt like we have the guy who can do what we
want from Robinson and he's not delivering.
So let's go ahead and move on and let's clear the runway for
this rookie. He he is the reason
fundamentally that they traded Brian Robinson.
And so therefore like that is what he's done.
He's gotten them to trade their starting running back by having
that strong of a campus. On a team that wins the NFC
Championship? On a team that wins the NFC
championship. Is it Jacksonville in Fournet
then? I mean, we're making Tampa Bay
in Fournet like it might be. Like we got some, we've got
somebody else who's cheaper. He's not a headache.
Maybe Robinson? Or something like James
Robinson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You guys you guys want me to draw the most obvious historical
parallel to this situation, 2012.
The Washington Football Team has a backfield of Tim Hightower,
Roy Hilu, Evan Royster and Alfred Morris.
Tim Hightower is like a seventh round pick for most of the
offseason. People are also drafting Roy
Hilu. Alfred Morris smashes in the
preseason, doesn't play in preseason.
Week 4 guarantees his roster spot.
I believe the Tim Hightower just gets waved.
Alfred Morris generates 335 rushes, 1600 rushing yards and
13 touchdowns while Roy Halu is injured and doesn't play and
Evan Royster is the reserve back.
This was, I believe Robert Griffin's second year.
You know, the famous thing about history is that it's like
poetry, It rhymes. And it doesn't, doesn't
necessarily always, I, I think if you, if you can see patterns
like this, I, I don't know man. I, I just, frankly, I think one
thing we know Gretch, I always try, I always reference this
thing that Gretch did and I have to go back and find the article.
But Gretch did this maybe 3 off seasons ago.
Did this big analysis of like pre season risers never rise
enough. Yeah.
And he the the starting point that Gretsch worked from was, I
believe Arian Foster when he got up to be a fourth round pick the
year that he led the NFL in rushing.
And yeah, sometimes you are going to be buying the absolute
top Areno on Roy Hilu Junior, but missing like getting 90% Roy
Hilu's for getting 10% Alfred Morris's or Doug Martins or
Arian like that. That's a generate.
I mean, we're talking like you get one of these guys once every
five years. Really they do not.
There was not, there was zero of these last year, right?
Kyron Williams year before. I can't think of an example.
The year, well, it's it's it's it's Isaiah Pacheco, but they
trade CEH. Isaiah Pacheco But they wow,
Karain see, This is why This is why it's $1,000,000, man, that's
that's a better comp. I think in terms of like
expected scoring. Like I don't think JCM is going
to score 17 points per game, probably more like 12, but
that's pretty freaking good. Yeah, no, that's what it is.
It's it's not like and there there's a cap to where I would
take him, but it's not the eighth round in in the FFPC
where every running back is priced up like yeah, he's I
don't know. I I did find the the clip here.
Let me let me share that this is from this is from July 28th.
This is. I, I I.
Remember this? Yeah.
All right.
We're about to. We're about to.
We're about to go back in the annals of history.
I looked, by the way, 6% of JCM and the big Board.
Oh. That's probably.
Good. That is good.
That's really good. All right, here we go.
Grant Paulson I grabbed some media members during practice
and asked them who stood out the most so far in training camp.
Lots of love for two. Season is running back to Corey
Crosby there just because, like, it's really hard to tell out
here without pads on what he can do.
But you see the decisive cuts on film.
You saw the violent nature of his runs.
Watching him run some past routes looks pretty good.
So I think he's someone that I'm really intrigued by just because
there's mystery there. He didn't play last year in
Arizona except for one game. What can he do?
He's the guy that was. I can't stand that guy to watch.
I'm going to stay on the same train to Corey.
Krosky Merritt, he's had a play a few a few minutes ago.
They're in pads. He runs up the He runs
horizontal, sees a hole, blasts up the hole, sees there's Tyler
Owens slams into him. Boom keeps the balance, keeps
going. I think he's got the wiggle that
they need in that backfield, whether he can play.
We'll see. The point is made.
It goes on like that it. Goes on.
It goes on like. That I mean, when we're out at
camp, we'll. Be their starter.
When we're out at camp, we're we're so excited to tell you
about the guy that wasn't obvious how good he looks like
in Buffalo. It's Tyrell Shavers.
You know, you got to watch out. That's sort of like a, you know,
a win. The media, I think they have
that sort of instinct to give you somebody that isn't obvious,
like you're not going to go to Tennessee camp and be like, oh,
Cam Ward actually is the guy I'm watching the most here.
This. One-on-one.
Overall, but still we're in your point when we picked him 810 in
that main event. Watch what happens and he has
gone up and it's an exciting. Yeah.
We we legitimately got closing line value on that.
And a guy that was going undrafted a month earlier.
Yeah. Yep, exciting.
Well, also exciting is Pete's absolute Tour de force.
You'll like that Davis is the rest of history club member, as
am I. Just.
What so is can I can I ask behind the curtain a little bit,
is he just how does he have the Liam stream with the menu to?
Is he just cataloging all summer on things he might use later?
It's incredible guessing. I'm guessing that Mister
Lennar's was a big part of the cataloging.
Look at us. In terms of like getting clips
from Liam stream? Do you have an official comment
either of you on your roles in this video?
Absolutely no, couldn't possibly be more pleased with.
Michael what flattery? What flattery?
I mean, really. Yeah, I, I, you know, I thought
the Davis impression was a little stretched, but, you know,
now it seems pretty dead on. And then he gets a 2 minute rap
video at the end of the thing. I mean I.
Yeah, it's my. Praise.
I, I saw a couple people being like, oh, you're really a good
sport. And I'm like, guys, this is
literally made for me. Like I'm dying laughing at this.
Like, nothing could possibly be more funny to me than Pete doing
like bits inside of bits inside of bits inside of bits.
Like just unbelievably. Amazing.
You said you showed your wife, by the way.
I showed mine and she sat there for the full 16 minutes and
she's she's lying on the couch next to me and at when it ends,
she sort of turns her head toward me.
She goes, I didn't understand one word of it.
I, I, I I did not. I did not show my wife the
entirety. I just showed her Sacrilegious's
What sack in the seals? Sack in the slaps.
Amazing, yeah. I just I just showed her the end
bit and her primary comment was seals are very cute just.
And they are. They are they're.
Getting a little bit of a a bad rap here because they're
inherently blind in our sort of branding of the.
Kind of being blind kind of makes them cuter, I think.
Well, I guess maybe that's fair. Yeah, that might be fair.
The the the execution of the I'm sure Davenport was probably my
favorite part of the whole video.
No one cares about Madison. No one cares about Madison when
he's at the diner and he's being held up.
Look at the words on the signs on the register in the back.
JCM. I mean the the reference to not,
you know, thinking of him in the bathroom, just incredible,
incredible things. You can watch that.
You can watch that 50 times and see something you know, it's
like a great movie. The best bit in terms of the
creativity of everything was the was the sidekick though, was
Paddy Kerrin. I mean that that was just I,
that was the funniest character. Pete as the customer service.
Yeah, he was the funniest. Character.
Yeah, picture in picture. I did answer customer support
emails right after watching the like that just is what happened
yesterday. But I went, I went and answered
emails. I watched the video and then I
answered emails. What a great job.
I mean, I'm I'm honored. The clip curse.
The clip curse quickly before we get into the the meat here.
It's been half an hour. Leviska Chennault caught in
Buffalo today. That's all happening right now.
Maybe he can get a surprise squad.
Zach, please. Harold Fannon sounds good.
There's a reason that Drake may never get a clip.
I I'll say that. I'll say that.
You protected him. I protected him, you did.
You you guys have that you have like 1 chip you can play to
protect your. Well, it would have been me,
right? It would have been me pushing.
Historically, we've kind of the clips have been either Pete's
made them or or I've made the Dulcich one, but Zach made the
the Fannin one. But I don't think Zach made a
clip for us last year. So it would have been we would
have to request it anyway and I'd never requested.
It would have been me to request, but I protected Drake
at the record show. I'm trying to think like, is
there an obvious candidate for for the secondary clip this year
after Fannin? Like in terms of someone?
Oh, oh, athlete. No, no, I know who it is.
And it's just like the most obvious guy to add to this list
in terms of like, well, who could have seen that not working
out? It's it's Luther Burden.
Oh yeah, it's or did Corey Krosky, Merritt.
I was, I was going to say like. Facial Tootin.
Tootin. Oh yeah, it's tootin.
It's Tootin. It probably is tooten.
It's tooten, yeah, because I think that he is amongst.
Burton's more like the guy I'm pushing, but tooten's the dude.
Like ship chasing. We all run the podium.
I was going to. Say we all like him Yeah Yep, we
we did just get a super chat from a man from Norway and I
would like to address this. I would like to call out the
cowards. I mean for I think you can just
play the ADP game, but great call out so far.
Great call out. I would I would this is this is
what I want to say. This is what I this is what I'd
like to say CMC as the one O 7 literally makes no sense.
He should either be the one O 1 or he should be like going where
like James Cook goes. You know what I'm saying?
I. I I the, when he was the 112, I
agreed with this point. I don't think I agree with it
now. I don't like he should be, you
know, he's like what, 29? He did miss time last year.
We haven't seen, you know, it's two years ago that he had the
great, unbelievable season. It's one year ago that Saquon
Barkley had the unbelievable season.
So why can't Barkley go ahead of him, you know?
Because in a fully healthy season, CMC just just going to
outscore Barkley by a lot. He might but like, you know, he
is a bit older now. So it's and they and they just
got Robinson. Maybe they you know.
Here's a good one. I looked this up yesterday on
stream. You're more like.
He'll he'll, he'll outscore. Him, he's just going to easily
outscore him. More expected points last year.
Saquon Barkley or Devin A Chain? Like per game?
No. Total cumulative expected
points. Not not actual points, expected
points. A Chan.
A Chan gotta be yeah, no, and and you just if you told that to
someone off the street, they'd be like First off, expected
points. I don't get points for that.
We expected it's it's a Chan or McCaffrey who who was the other
person. A Chan or Barkley?
Oh, Barkley. That's why I was so confused.
Yeah, yeah. No, it would be a Chan because
he got all the receptions. Yep.
Yeah, no, Barkley, I was kind of when I did the legendary upside
article, I was like blown away by how many touchdowns Barkley
scored from distance. Like.
It was like all of them. Yeah, but it was like, I believe
he had six or seven touchdowns from it was seven.
It was 7 touchdowns last year. This includes the playoffs in 19
games. But he had he had 18 touchdowns
last year. Seven of them were from 60 plus
yards away. That's crazy.
Is it the first play of the NFC Championship?
Maybe one of them. I mean, he was right away.
Yeah, but the thing. So then I'm like thinking like,
you know, a lot of times and, and Ben's made this point with
stuff over the years was like yeah well you know the guys like
some of this stuff with a high value, you know, it's like oh
he's got like this dude had like 6 high value touches like yeah
'cause he got stuffed at the 2 twice and then scored and then
we. Call that.
You know what we call that? We call that the Joe Mixon.
Yeah, the Joe Mixon like dude, look at his expected values.
Expect to score like 45 points like well he got 2 kill, like
the Max he could have scored was 12.
But the reverse of that is like Barkley could have been tackled
at the one and then all of a sudden his expected points rise
'cause he gets the the the goal line character.
But does he? Doesn't that go to Hertz?
Yeah, it goes to Hertz. I'd I'd like to return to
something that absolutely tilted me The the I'll just never
forget this was like about as bad as it gets.
This was in week I believe this was week 14 last year.
So this was the last like teetering to see if you could
possibly win anything. The the Philadelphia Eagles are
just absolutely killing the Los Angeles Rams.
The score is so Barkley scores a big long touchdown.
In LA. Quarter.
In LA, Kenny Gainwell scores, the game is over.
It's 27 to 14, it's 30 to 14, and then the score is 30 to 14
with three minutes left. Barkley is in there and Barkley
scores a 72 yard touchdown and it's just like, all right, I get
it. I get it.
It's not my it's not my year, bro.
I just remember that was like the most tilting one where I was
just like, all right man. Somebody in a basketball game
with a 25 point lead dunks on you to close it?
Yes, win by 27. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, right.
Yeah. I literally just saw Davis
getting dunked on and just going like what?
What? What?
Are we enough? Come on.
The pain enough. Yeah, it's the holidays.
Yeah, let's Pat, if you want jump ahead to Slide 5, we've
we've kind of covered. This tweet's a little a little
hard to read here. Fannin is is next to a tweet
here that says not exactly sure how to say this, but up until
this weekend, I think the past failure slash bit nature of the
sloppy pics, Sky Moore, Leviska, Schnoldt, etcetera was making
people overlook Harold Fannon who was actually a really good.
So it's not that he was drafted in the third round.
I thought they went to Bowling Green.
It's not that he's a backup tight end, it's that we made the
clip. My cousin My cousin Harold
Luther Fannon. That's why the market hasn't
gotten on. Board This this is This is the
funniest, funniest tweet in in maybe not the funniest tweet in
basketball history. It's one of the top ten funniest
ones in basketball history. It's pretty good, man.
I enjoy it a lot. Yeah.
All right, we see one. If you want to jump ahead to
Slide 5, the risers with we've kind of covered Washington and
Nixon. So let me run down 3.
Well, let's yeah, we've probably covered all of this.
We've covered all of this. I let's, let's do, let's just do
Guerrendo and, and Brian Robinson real quick.
You know, you, you don't get paid for bag protecting on Isaac
Guerrendo who until like 3 days ago was my most drafted player.
Totally over. Now only thing I can do is cut
my losses on Isaac Guerrendo. Just like truly, truly not
taking him. The injury, I mean, you might
have been, you might have been OK.
There might have been OK, might have been OK, but he he gets.
Hurt. Gets hurt on special teams, Kyle
Shanahan says. We brought in Brian Robinson to
be R2. Now, knowing the haunted burial
ground that is the 49ers backfield, does that mean
Dorindo's a total zero? You never know, but you don't.
Draft him anymore you. Don't draft him anymore.
He might not be a total 0. Those bags might not be dead by
drafting. By not drafting him a single
time going forward, you're not saying you definitely burned all
that money, but you you shouldn't draft.
But he's not a good. Like I would I right now would
take Brashard Smith over. I think he ran no.
Straight. Oh yeah, Easy, easy, easy.
I would say Kendra Miller over him.
Like in a heartbeat. Marshawn Lloyd.
No, no. I.
I just, I do want to bring this up real quick on Kendra Miller
because I'd forgotten. I think we were, a lot of us are
tuned out. Kendra Miller did get 2
consecutive stars for the New Orleans Saints last year.
In Week 16 and Week 17, he generated 14 touches for 18
yards. Well, the team is.
The team is thought to be much improved.
Maybe you know, better game scripts, better game scripts.
Malachi Corley cut by The Jets, Dulcich by the Giants.
You might be watching live and want to know these things.
You might be watching, you know, days later and already do and
never care. Kendra Miller just buried by
show. Kendra Miller.
I picked them in in Kentucky. I still think, you know, I have
a main event with at least one main event with Miller on it.
But you want those guys at the end that you can afford to cut
makes makes. And you want the guys in you
want like he's he's, you know, a contingent backup, contingent
play, you know, locked in backup type of thing that has not been
drafted. Like he will be drafted in
probably like 3 percent, 5% of main event or not main event of
best ball mania drafts. So I he is the guy.
I'm like, hey, this dude's like way more.
He's the same. He's like the same bet or a
worse bet than some of these other contingent guys.
Like I like DJ Giddens way more, but DJ Giddens has been drafted
all summer. He's probably like 90% drafted.
So you do get that. And you know, I but that that's,
that's one of the reasons I was just like, yeah, give me a
backup. It hasn't been drafted.
I've got a real, it happens. It could be a real edge.
I'm not taking Grundo over him. I've got a real sneaky
transaction. Phil Moffa got placed on the
injured reserve for the Dallas Cowboys that basically
solidifies their backfield. It's going to be Jaden Blue,
Miles Sanders and Javonte Williams that it's actually
super sneaky for Jaden Blue because.
Low ankle. Quote low ankle.
He said he's so so he. Said.
This this is a classic one where the injury overreactors on X the
everything app just sort of like he's dead and then he said he's
fine and then the coach said he's fine and then he's he's
back to practice. So that means Jaden Blue is
going to be like he he kind of skipped the a chain healthy
scratch week 1, right? Probably.
That is interesting. Miles Sanders healthy enough to
be active Week 1 or no? I mean, it's just like the he's,
he literally is just going to make the team because.
Talk about guys who are not drafting anymore.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
End it, End it. Lot of lot of never in doubt
type of victory laps, some serious more serious than
someone just in the the leg up crew were like when Miles
Sanders made the team. I'm like it was this is like one
of those ones where it was genuinely in doubt.
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, Miles Sanders, I
would take Trevor Etienne straight up right now over Miles
Sanders. Yeah, we're not drafting Miles
Sanders anymore, but we went to Kentucky and did draft Javonte
Williams twice and plan to start in Week 1.
You. Know Mile Javonte Williams is
going to be the most just a guy guy in the National Football
League for the first month of the season.
I still can't believe that knowing like what he must have
looked like in practice. Yep, that Sean Payton sat him
down. It made him watch what he used
to look like in college and said please look like this again.
It's. Crazy.
Davis Davis loves the crooked numbers.
He won. Can't do.
That. Javonte Williams 15 for 52 and
one and you know, 2 catches, 15 fantasy.
Points 2 catches, 2 catches for one yard.
Just say that 13 fantasy points then, but still, you know, maybe
playable. Yeah, the the, I mean, frankly,
and I, I promised in no way. I, I do not think what I'm about
to say is cope. This is actually what you wanted
to have happen with Jaden Blue. You did not want Mafa to exist.
You you did not want there to be any other guy with any little
bit of intrigue on this. Even Dusvan, Like if somehow
Dusvan is, is on the 53, it, it is, it is brutal.
His backfield mates being Javonte Williams and Miles
Sanders. That is like, you know, when
they let that rich guy play in that tennis event like a month
ago, Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders is a rich guy in the
tennis event. Like just here, like just here
because of your status. But it it's just a it's just a
clear walkover. Like, they're, yeah, for the F1
fans, they're, they're paid drivers.
They're the guy. They're they're Lance Stroll.
His dad literally had to buy an F1 team.
His dad now owns the Aston Martin team because that's the
only way that Lance Stroll can drive in F1 because he stinks.
Yeah, he's actually drove. He's driven so much in F1 that
he's kind of become OK. But he but he's had, it's taken
him like 10 years of F1. Experience.
I was going to say that's like how Javonte became a good
passing down specialist and that was the only way he was going
to. Stay He paid for the seat.
He paid. He paid for the seat by being
willing to block Joey Bosa. Yeah.
This is where Jacob has missed to make you know 17 points about
American politics. We don't.
Oh, that's yeah.
Great point. Great.
Point Jacob here for that. Yeah, right.
Now. Move ahead, all right?
48 minutes into the show, should we do risers?
Risers, Yeah. Nixon, I don't know.
Not going to be, not going to be available.
Nixon is is probably not going to play in the National Football
League again, if I had to guess. So Aaron Wilson has been
completely unreliable on this and it's basically been pushing
in my view, just like literally a mouthpiece for whatever the
team wants out there on on this particular story.
And the team has been lying to us through through Aaron Wilson.
So he's been very unreliable. But it is interesting to me now
than in there was a video going around yesterday that he's
saying things like, you know, that he had a procedure, an
alternate, you know, like I forget the exact phrase, but
it's like he had an alternate treatment.
And the rumors are like basically that he had some
horrible botched procedure and it screwed up his foot.
And he's like kind of hinting that that maybe happened.
So I'm pretty sure that happened.
And I don't know, I don't think we're going to see much mixing
this year. It doesn't mean Chubb's a
necessarily great pick 'cause he looks so washed, but.
Chubb was a Chubb was a pretty good pick when you could get him
at like actually free at like at like round 15 or whatever.
I I'm I'm happy to do the I know what I don't know on Woody
Marks, which is that if Woody Marks was anyone else, if Woody
Marks was DJ Giddens, if Woody Marks was Ollie Gordon, if Woody
Marks was Can you imagine if the Texans would have selected by
Shel Tootin in the 4th? I honestly can't imagine dude.
He would, he would be a 4-5. He would be a 4-5 turn pick for
for us at. DJ Giddens, that's the one.
Giddens being on the Cowboys or the Texans, it's just like, it's
so easy. It was right there, guys.
Like he was available. He was.
Freaking available and you took Woody Marks and Jayden Blue.
Funk. Functionally, Woody Marks and
Jayden Blue are the same thing. I know, Take Giddens.
I wonder how much woody? I wonder.
I'm checking right now. 1200 eighty 12181 drafts in 14.3%
woody marks. You guys would have drafted more
teams, I'll tell you that. Like my volume would be higher.
Yeah, yeah. You guys always use Giddens,
which is fine. You know who we forget about
completely? That I think you might disagree
but serves the same point is Martinez.
Oh no, I I completely agree. I loved Martinez as a prospect.
I liked Martinez, it sounds like he got beat out though for that
job. By Helani.
By Helani so I. Mean Helani was good in college.
Yeah, and he had moments in the preseason.
I liked Martinez. To me, Martinez is more like
Kolel Mullins level where I'm like this guy's big and could be
fun. You know who?
Giddens. I don't know, I think Giddens
could be a star. You know, George Gilani was
college teammates with. Who?
Ashton Jean T outrushed Ashton Jean T their first year together
at Boise. Damn dude.
He's the Jack Bash of running backs.
And and and so. Oh, he's actually above Brian
Thomas. Interesting.
Helani actually, Even in Genti's crazy 2023 season, Helani still
got 150 touches and 950 scrimmage yards.
Damn dude. Let's go draft him once, I dare
you. I don't attempt to me with a
good time, brother. Yeah, why drop Chubb ahead of
Ecolor is a good, good line. Oh, maybe I am a right wing
sloppy because I think I I see the case for why I would do
that. I think with Chubb it, it's
really should be eliminator or like I, I've taken Chubb with,
with Judkins. You know where I'm like, I, I
need a body, but the, but the body can go away after two
weeks, 3 weeks because like they're going to see Nick Chubb
and be like, yeah, let's just play Damien Pierce.
Or or Jaquavious woody marks. Well, I mean, they're going to
play Woody Marks probably from the jump, but in a third down
roll, Woody Marks is not. You breathe on him, he falls
over. You can't run him up the middle.
I see you guys in these last week of best ball drafts, just
drafting Damien Pierce, all these guys that we just want to
have a little piece of, you know, the last 7 picks of your
draft. Draft Damien Pierce now.
Yeah, what I've, what I've been. Davis on the drafter streets.
What? So I do have him kind of high
higher on drafters, but what I have been doing with Damien
Pierce, Karina, I wonder if you're doing this too.
When I get to my final three picks of these puppy 3 slows
that we're in, I just set a queue.
I just clicked some names and press autopilot and I have been
putting Damien Pierce in that queue of like 10 guys.
I'm like, well, whoever the room decides, I get, I get.
It is funny because I'm in so many of these puppy 3 slows.
I I did I I did the entire puppy 3 slow.
I did 150 slows and we're next to each other in a bunch of
them. So I've now gotten to the point
where I make my pick and then I'll just keep it there until I
until you your auto draft comes in.
I can see you take this one. A lot of a lot of Tesla, a lot
of Brashard Smith, a lot of Jalen Royals on these.
I, I went back and reread Sean's Chiefs magnum opus.
I mean, it is like 1200 or 12,000 words.
I mean, it's so long. And I was.
I was ready to go through a wall for Brashard Smith and Joan
Royals after reading that. Where are you at on Royals?
Because he's missed a bunch of time with knee tendonitis.
Where he was on Royals, his Offensive Rookie of the Year
dark throw. Just to preface, right, this is
for the baseline. That's an important point.
So previously he started betting on him to win Offensive Rookie
of the Year. So.
Let's see, where are you? Where are.
You now. No, where, I mean where I'm at
is that I actually think the way that this Rashi Rice suspension
worked out is even better for Jalen Royals than just being
thrown into the deep end at the beginning of the season where
Rashi Rice is not available for the first month.
And they're like, all right, kid, let's see if you can swim
'cause now I think like, OK, wait for him to play in Week 6.
That actually feels better to me.
I I don't know where I. Agree.
I actually agree with that. Yeah, that's the worst case.
Scenario right now is that they is that rice make get some
settlement and he you know takes a takes on A5 game suspension to
start the year. That's that's pretty bad for
Royals cause Juju and and Taekwon are just going to play
over him at the beginning of the year.
Yeah. When is when is that Rice
hearing? Is that September 30th?
It's late, right? It's.
After because because it because it just happened to fit into Sue
Robinson's schedule. I see.
Well, that's convenient. Risers, You guys ready?
You're warm. Warm enough to move on to
risers. Real quick, just Daniel Tino
says that Davis, you're not right wing, you're in four
dimensional political sphere. Some would consider it horseshoe
theory, but you've transcended the slappy plane of existence.
A seal. You've reached seal
enlightenment. I'm just the seal, brother.
Listen to Davis Matic, baby. That line resonated with you.
My WGR show will officially become this show once I use that
as a bump. Yes, yes it will, Pete.
Pete gesticulating to his crotch.
Wow. Yeah, that was that just kind.
Of over and over riser's. I gotta get this in before
somebody else comments. Ollie Gordon, Trayvion Henderson
and Mecca. Buca.
Keenan Allen, Isaac Tesla, Tyler Warren, Braylon Allen, Chigo
Conquo, Alec, IO Menor. That's one name I don't have
down yet, but I'm drafting him. I don't have it down yet.
I don't have it down yet either. It's IO manure.
No, we don't. Want OO?
OR. I, I blame like I, I was
listening to Greg Rosenthal and Daniel Jeremiah and he asked Dan
Jeremiah, like, what, what's the right way?
And he's like, I don't, I don't know.
I'm like, come on, you're the prospect guy.
Like I. Help us out here.
IO Manor sounds the the coolest, right?
Sure, I need. An interview where he pronounces
his own name. Just, you know, what we what I
would do on the air is go go YouTube search and find his
college highlights. But I did that with with HN and
he was always a chain. Yeah, that you can't that with
something like this, you can't use the college highlights
because there'll also be wrong. Because like it with HN was like
he had to come out and be like, by the way, now that I've had a
big game and you guys care who I am, it's a chain.
All right, there we go. Our our boy, our boy roster
watch who definitely would know he would have been boots on the
ground at the Senior Bowl and at the combine, says it's AO Manor.
AO Manor. Let's go.
And I assume it's Alec. Yes, this list of Flamershope.
Jordan Henderson, Igbuca Keenan, Tesla, Warren, Braylon Allen,
Chica Conquo and AO Manor. I am buying the Toparino on
every last one of these guys. Just absolutely, just absolutely
slurping Toparino on literally like I'm looking at this and I'm
like, I think I've taken all those guys in a draft today
ahead of of their average draft position.
By the way, I did I, I was, I'm glad that we got to talk about
Keenan Allen today because I read this great article on
legendaryepisode.com. Don't know if you guys have
heard of it. Matt Irby wrote an article today
using some advanced data on. Yeah, I almost didn't allow this
on the site. Making routes and.
Like literally all players I'm dating.
I'm kidding, of course. It's a very good article, but
it's like literally like it's like Cortland Sutton for Calvin
Ridley and all these guys who who are on these route trees
where they they break horizontally.
Where they get fantasy points. They get fantasy points and it's
like, it was like the saddest I've ever been in.
I was editing this article like God damn it.
It it was I, I, I had the, I had the same reaction to everyone on
that list other than Keenan Allen, because I have been
buying, I've been buying all the I've been, I was dipperinoing,
I'm top arenoing. I'm doing all of it with Keenan.
I, I think it's like you don't have to like it.
No one has to like it. I had actually forgotten a key
point that Matt brought up, which was that Keenan, because
of the way the Chargers played when he got drafted, was a pure
outside wide receiver because he was like team mates with Antonio
Gates. It's like, OK, well, you're not
going to play in the slot when we have Antonio Gates.
You know, I, I mean, I think, I think Keenan is just going to,
it's going to be the most inconvenient truth. 6 1/2 target
per game season in modern American history I think.
Until he breaks, everybody else on this list is second year or a
rookie. And Keenan Allen is almost, you
know, Pat's age. But but at his cost right now, I
believe he's the wide receiver. 59 Pat's age.
What? He's almost.
He's my age. No, he's not.
He's. I.
I wasn't going to do that, and neither are you.
But you know what? What happened to playoff weeks?
Got to get there, brother. Do we?
Do we want to argue about Isaac Teslaw?
Jake Jacob is not here, so it would be a pale imitation.
What do we argue it? Could have been.
What's the argument? I just think he's a good pick, I
think, I think. He of course he is.
Of course he is. He's a good pick, not for
actually, and I think I might even be able to get Jacob on to
this reasoning. He's a good pick because I think
he actually just has Giga contingent value.
I think he can score a couple touchdowns in this role he's in
right now. But Hayden actually wrote this
great article two years ago on the underdog fantasy, like just
like their blog. And it was all about like, if
you think about the way bestball Mania works, it's like you're
trying to win in the multiverse that we are in.
You know what I'm saying? Like there's all these infinite
multiverses that can take place, but you want to win in the one
we're in. So contingent value should
actually be like an even larger part of our process than it is
because it's so evident that guys are going to get banged up,
guys are going to get hurt, roles are going to change.
Tesla, I think 1, I think he's probably just going to start
over. Tim Patrick.
Right. Away Jamo gets injured, Laporta
gets injured, like one of the big target earners on that team
gets injured and all of a sudden you're looking at like, OK,
maybe this guy might average like 4 receptions per game in
the back half of the season. It's just like at that A dot.
That's another thing is I I want to be jamming in more of these
high A dot like low percentage play guys at the end,
particularly on underdog versus like FFPC or DraftKings or
whatever because touchdowns are just so valuable.
Yeah, and you're saying it's the pure salt bet from last year?
It's. Not exactly.
Why pure salt was like he was the first round pick and he's
buried but they're going to like first round pick.
They'll see what they have at the end of the year, most
likely. Tesla's different.
I think Tesla's like he's it's, you know, it's closer to like
JCM or something where like he just comes in and is, he's the
talk of lions camp and like beat reporters who go there.
They're like, dude, this guy, this dude's going to have a
role. Like he's I was listening to
Ollie Connolly breaking down his his tape and stuff and they're
like, I so this, this I didn't know.
Apparently in the pre draft process Tesla was a guy that
like most of the film dudes like never got to because he didn't
play but like the league. Well, he had 29 receptions.
Yeah, he had like 29 receptions, but the that's.
JCM too. Got really excited about him
because of like his like basically the people who did
watch him started to get excited about him and there was kind of
this thing of like who's going to where?
Who's going to make the move, right?
Can we play chicken with this guy or do we have to go get this
guy 'cause I guess that, you know, like he's a big dude that
you can, you can use to kind of use as a run blocker and also
kind of to stretch the field. And you can, and, and apparently
he's been looking good in some kind of more intermediate stuff
too. Anyway, the, the reach among
like the NFL teams, I don't think would have been considered
much of A reach among us. Like what are they doing?
Well, they traded 3, yeah. Yeah, but it it wasn't like this
completely out of nowhere pick within the league.
And anyway, they were they were impressed with his with his film
once they, you know, knew to go watch it.
So I I, I don't know, it could be a guy who's playing right
away. He's on a good offense.
He can catch touchdowns. It's like a much, much more
exciting version of the Diami Brown bet, you know?
Such a such a great way to explain it.
Yeah, it's it's the Diami Brown bet, but not a guy who's been a
proven loser for years. And a guy who hasn't really been
drafted that much, you know, like, and he's been drafted for
a while now, but it's he's going to be less than half drafted,
probably be like 33% or something.
I'm still thinking about, I'm still thinking about about our
main team, just seeing Gordon and Henderson right up top.
I. Mean I know.
Super sexy we. We did the we did the Gordon
thing already, but I I do like this.
That's another one of like he really was not drafted for a
huge portion of the contest, like and you're the two big
things that you needed to take care of in season are gone like
like but Jalen Wright is gone the way of the dodo man.
If it was like over, it's done like it'll never matter again.
Gordon, excitingly, is on Pat's Last Call team, which we will
get to. Sheesh, man.
Here are the risers. Quick update on Dallas, seeing
from Todd Archer and then commented on by Marcus Mosher
that they're putting two other players.
We talked about Phil Maffa briefly.
On IR designated to return one being Jonathan Mingo.
So there might not even be room for Mafa to go to that
designation. He might be just put on.
Well, teams, I mentioned this on my stream yesterday.
Teams actually love to do this. They love to take a guy on day
three and then find a reason to season anything IR them because
it keeps them in your building. You you get to learn about like
their, their work habits just like all and and you just and
you just get to pure red shirt them and there's like no roster
penalty at all. They cost very little 'cause
you, I think what do you pay 50% of your of the guy's wages when
they're on IR or something like that?
Like they get you get paid a little less when you're on IR.
Maybe I made that up, but I'm. Pretty sure I don't think you
do. That seems screwed up.
I wanted I there's some cat machination benefit of being on
IR, but basically the point is is that you like it is very
common. The Chiefs love to do this.
The chiefs love to keep like Sky Moore went on IR last year.
Not a rookie, but it just kept them from having to cut him.
Spears taje Spears went on IR, by the way.
Season ending or? I assume that's the designated
for return. Designated for return man.
That's a. That's big.
That's, I mean, Pollard like was always a jam, but it's going to
end up being an even bigger jam now.
Pollard. Pollard or Breeze?
Oh. Breeze, come on.
It's still breeze. Really.
OK, never mind, I didn't. I I've been there's a there's a
dip. This, I mean, he's been hurt for
a while. This is, this is like one of
those things, like what are we got a triple count that Spears
has hurt? Like he's been hurt.
Vote round five in Kentucky. That's not.
There, there, there is a pure you know how like in finance you
have buy walls and sell walls. If I'm in your draft, the fifth
round is the the buy wall on Breece.
He will never. He's never getting past the 5th.
Round I could have 4 running backs, I could have it could I
could have any combination. If I'm picking up 54 and Breece
is there, I I am just taking him.
In a Kentucky draft, I got him at 5:10, 5/10.
The most I would have is 3 running backs through through
4:00 and it would be rare but I I would take Bruce as my 4th
running back in the 5th. Yeah.
You can't stop me. Yeah, Titans probably don't
trade for running back because they've trusted Julius Chestnut
in this exact circumstance before.
Pollard in, Spears out, and I think Pat's boy to go all the
way back to February fantasy football content.
I, I think Mullings did enough in the in the preseason for them
to be like, yeah, sure, whatever, we'll play, we'll play
Mullings. Just gonna.
If you wanted the Kentucky Big Payback draft, it's $1000.
Entry that board if you want to show it, Pat.
If you don't, that's fine, but it's third round reversal.
I was team three and there's Breece Hall at 5-10 saved.
My team didn't have a running back plan at all.
That's wow sharps dude, that was that's.
You know. Two rounds ahead of Warren.
I don't even, I don't even think it's, I don't even think it's
bad. But you could definitely tell
that we did not draft this team with you, as evidenced by Yvonte
Williams and Christian Kirk being on it.
Right, one of the highlights, maybe top five of my fantasy
summer was listening to watching the main event that Pat and Pete
did with Sean Siegel when he called Keaton Mitchell the best
running back in the National Football.
That was pretty fun, wasn't it? That was pretty great.
Sean. Sean was.
Pretty great. I've been I've been engaging
with a lot of Sean content. I was on vacation for four days
and I downloaded a bunch of his, wrote of his stuff on my phone
and listened to Stealing Bananas.
I mean, nothing is going to get me more excited for fantasy
football season than engaging with Sean content.
There was there was a point where he mentioned that Jane
Daniels will probably only have two or three seasons with 1000
rushing yards and 10 touchdowns. And Gretch was just like, well,
that's never happened before in the NFL and Sean's like, I know.
So I didn't want to be crazy. I didn't want to say I'll do it
every year. And I was just like, Sean is the
GOAT. There it is.
All right, that was a. That was a good, that was a good
team show. I, I thought the I, I like the I
like the Charbonnay pick. Charbonnay is Charbonnay.
I think is is quite sneaky right now.
I thought it was a good weekend. It was my first time there,
different format, and that was my first one and I think I got
better, but that has some potential.
Bowers every time. OK, Fallers.
Here's the Breece Hall Taijae Spears, IR Davis, reports Ivan H
and Jalen McMillan. That's tough.
Rashi Rice, Trey Harris, Quentin Johnston, Brandon Ayuke and
Chris Godwin. Dip dip arena slurping Ayuke
just because Is there going to be a better wide receiver 6 for
you to have on one of these teams than Brandon Ayuke?
Like it? Just who?
What if I get you? Can take him at 1:30 all the
time he's available, yeah. Yeah, I don't even like Brandon
Ayuke. Do you feel, do you feel
somewhat likewise about Godwin at his price at this point?
Frankly, I don't I'm wondering if you guys can suss this out
for me. What did what was your response
to the they're not going to put him on pop, but he also probably
is not going to play until week 5.
What? What was your response to that?
I don't know that it meant anything.
I mean, they want him to be at practice, which is weird because
he's only been in the league forever.
So I, I don't know if it, I don't think it meant anything
contractually or monetarily. They're going to use a roster
spot on them. Is that the most meaningful
logistical aspect of it? Yeah, they also waved Trey
Palmer this morning. So maybe maybe he's closer to
being healthy than we think. I mean, that could be an
interpreter because the combo of McMillan probably not playing
this year, like I'd be kind of surprised if he came back in
week 10 like he has a neck injury.
I, I just also the way I think about it is probably talking
about the top arena with IGBUCA. It's like, I don't know, man.
He's probably just going to come back and then just be like the
clear wide receiver 3 on this team.
Whereas like IU, there are worlds where IU comes back and
actually leads the 49ers in like target share when he gets back.
I I don't know, I, I think that's too certain about an
uncertain situation. Like with both.
I mean, we don't know that a book has had a really good camp,
but like he wasn't this amazing prospect.
He's a good prospect, but he's not like this generation wide
receiver prospect or anything. And Evans is is another year
older and Godwin was the the wide receiver one last year when
healthy over Evans. So if he's healthy by maybe by
week 567, he he's the clear receiver 3.
But if he's fully healthy by the end of the season, why can't he
be the wide receiver one there, you know, or a kind of Co wide
receiver one or, you know, it's it's sort of spread out, but
he's he's edging out the other guys.
And Iuke's injury, I think typically is like a harder one
to recover from. I mean, he is expected to miss
more games ultimately and might never be back to to full speed
this entire year because he he tore multiple ligaments in his
knee in a pretty devastating knee injury.
So I, I don't know, I mean, I am, I'm, I'm willing to take
both when they fall for sure. But you're kind of just you're
hoping the recovery goes well and these guys are adding points
down the stretch. OK, Keenan Allen, Brandon Nyuk
and Chris Godwin are all there for you.
You need a wide receiver 5 or 6 just makes the the they're.
Yeah, OK, I will. I will need to reconfigure
because I I've been passing on Godwin a lot.
The logic is sound on on your point, Davis.
Like what it might mean and the McMillan injury could be a
tiebreaker on that where they did want to take it slow.
I mean, that team wants to win, right?
You guys know that. The Buccaneers have warned the
NFC South four years in a row. You couldn't.
I could have gotten 4 guesses on the team that won that Division
Four in a row and I don't think I would have gotten.
It and the last time they didn't.
Start with who won it last year. Yeah, I mean one of those.
I don't know. If I could have pulled, they
wouldn't last year. Like in my head I've been like,
I don't know, weren't the Falcons kind of good?
Like I like, who knows? One of those Bucks teams was 8
and 9, you know, and one of them went to.
The playoffs. That's your clue who had a
playoff game? At home every year, and the last
time they didn't win the NFC South, they won the Super Bowl.
All right. No, I mean, it's good.
That's five years ago. New Orleans Good.
It's good to know, but I don't, I just, I don't know, man.
I that in terms of the way my brain works for trivia, I I
could not have gotten there. All right, you know a lot.
Spears reportedly is the first four games, so that's the IR
announcement on him designated to return.
Still Pollard. Crane, what are you doing with
QJ, Trey Harris, KLS, Gadsden, like all these like tertiary
chargers? So Trey Harris actually started
taking a little bit yesterday, Jordan Rodriguez hyping him up a
little bit. And I was like, you know,
probably getting a little bit too weak 1 brained with Harris
now that he's available in the one 70s.
Yep, I, I wasn't drafting him much all summer, but let me go
ahead and, and start mixing him in at these really cheap prices.
So I I'm starting to take him and I think I'm going to do that
in some of my BBMS to close out too.
If he's going to, if he's going to fall that far, you know,
betting on that is more the pure salt bet.
You know, it's like, hey, you get a second round pick.
They're going to see what they have probably by the end of the
year. So yeah.
He's a if he's a 15th round pick.
I mean, that's just like a prototypically good 15th round
pick. Right.
And I've taken the Jack Bash, you know, pick plenty.
But he's he's now kind of graduated out of the draft.
He's he's like pretty much. Yeah, although OK, what did we
make of Amari? We have not met this were. 19%.
Of the show Why? Why did Amari Cooper sign with
the Raiders? What like is he retiring as a
Raider is? This no, he's he's got
incentives in the deal and stuff.
It's a real deal that that was that.
I saw that last night, like Raiders.
I was about to go to bed and then woke up for this show.
So I've not, I've not like discuss what we do because, you
know, it's a Mari Cooper ultimately, but we're I think
we're going to have to treat him like a real receiver.
I just goodness gracious. There's a Jacoby Myers trade
request to go with it. That's yeah.
Well, that's they trade Myers doing.
They're not. They're not.
This has crossed my mind. I have so much pop, Douglas.
This would actually be devastating to me.
Yeah, it would. Yeah, you'd be done.
I'd be done. I just I just hang it up for the
year, which maybe he says I drafted too much Pop Douglas,
but you know who who can really say, but it would make it does
make Jacoby Myers more likely to be traded.
This is what you would do if you're about to trade Jacoby
Myers as you would sign a market.
Just I, I don't know. Man, it's Pete Carroll going.
I remember Murray Cooper. Yeah, I I feel like it's, it's
much more of that. So what?
What's your take on on what Cooper has left?
Well, I, I think, you know, you have to sort of defer to what
the league said, which was they stayed quiet.
You know, he was just sitting there all offseason.
What happened in Buffalo was like he looked flow.
They talked about his having a wrist injury, but I was always
like, well, what does that have to do with his looking slow?
And then the offseason, what is what?
Does that have to do with getting open?
Like, can you? Because you have to hold your
arm into your body. You can't.
You can't like turn a corner. A lot of press coverage, I
think, yeah. I mean the the last completion
of the Bill season was what Davis before the Kincaid play
was a third test the line of scrimmage. 3rd and 10 screen to
Amari Cooper. Right.
I mean, they just. I'll never.
I'll never forget it. I'll never forget it.
I. You know, show up, I get.
Show up. I get a lot of offseason Josh
Allen content 'cause I watch a lot of golf on YouTube and Josh
Allen is buddies with all these guys.
Like like Josh Allen is like legitimately buddies with all
the golf Youtubers. Keith Mitchell is his guy when
he plays in the pro Am's, yes. Interesting.
I did not know that. And I just, I get a lot of like,
I just think all the time he must just be so mad at the
organization around him all the time.
He just looks around the room and he's like, like, do you
think he secretly hates McDermott?
He's like, this is my coach and I'm so good that I've kept
McDermott from getting fired. I used to think that like a
couple years ago, I I thought that, but he just gives off
absolutely zero of those vibes. You know, he just has this
perfect way about him with the media.
He doesn't give off any sort of scent about like self critical,
even with digs. I mean, they try so hard to talk
about how much they love everybody where there's any sort
of question about it. And that clearly was a strained
relationship. But you know, he just, I think
he's convincing. But maybe I'm gullible.
No, I used to think that, but I don't now.
I'm watching Hard Knocks. McDermott is not impressing me.
As far as his leader of men, Ness, it's this.
It's a tough show. They tend.
It tends to be one of those things that we're like, huh, I
guess this guy seems like an absolute clown.
But I guess, I guess this is just what NFL coaches seem like.
And then Frank Wright gets fired.
You know, the the following You're like, oh, yeah, he did
sort of that that speech about how you're climbing Mount
Everest and we're at base camp now and we're going to move up
the mountain was, in fact, dumb. I don't know.
Mcdermott's. Mcdermott's not not really.
The only guy I've ever seen impressive on one of these shows
is Dan Campbell. I'm like, all right, I would.
I would definitely want to play for this guy.
I'm hearing that it's the kind of lamest hard knock season.
Yeah, it's. So lame.
It's so lame even. Even Liam said it was lame.
It it, it's, it's really bad Hard Knocks.
They they like we're doing the preseason game like they're like
in the third quarter, like they took the lead.
Like this is not what Hard Knocks is supposed to be.
No one gives a shit about what the score of the preseason and
then have them like get on the bus because they lost.
And it's like they lost like some big playoff game.
Like no one cares about the preseason results except these
coaches for some reason. Like just focus on who's going
to make the roster. Give us some interesting stories
about like the best they can do is KJ Handler buying a kid
scooter, which was hilarious. But come on, like, give us give
us some intrigue about the the roster battles.
The Giants spooked everybody, might have ruined the the
franchise with the Barkley comment last year.
And just we don't we don't want that.
McDermott told me that one of his, you know, terms was I don't
want them in my office. So I don't think you've ever
seen him in his office. He said that was what he's like.
I wake up in the morning and they're they're video taping me
brushing my teeth. That's weird.
That's something you have to get used to, but I'm not.
He said I don't want them in my office.
I'm not sure that matters, but that's what he told me.
Rashi Rice Davis, What's your latest on Kansas City I?
Mean I just like there's just is so little clarity.
You know, I've got 2000 fantasy football teams drafted at this
point. Rashi Rice is on a bunch of
them. So if he ends up really
mattering, I probably have that base covered.
So for these last 10-15 days or whatever, I can let that be
someone else's problem and I can take like I I.
So this is actually I can take Ridley what it was more like I
can use this to get Xavier worthy to the top of my exposure
screenshot at the end of at the end of drought season.
Not, not vain at all. Yes, that's what we want in the
end. I'm trying to bury.
Marshawn Lloyd on mine. I feel like the way that Dalton
could, like we are all poisoned against Dalton Kincaid because
of Liam. I feel like some people have
matic derangement syndrome on Xavier Worth including myself by
the way, to some degree. Like like to some degree I'm
like, isn't the fact that you are so confident this player is
like maybe evidence that he's bad?
That's funny. You're fading yourself.
Yeah, I I just have, I've never been so confident that a player
is undervalued in fantasy than Xavier worth, particularly in
half PPR. Like I think in half PPR Xavier
worthy is like almost the perfect player.
It's it's just like, man, I, I don't know.
I just don't I just don't see how like Hayden has been of all
people, of all people, Hayden Winks has been like this is just
so obvious that Xavier worthy should be like a top 24 ish pick
and he just won't. There.
There's a there's a cell wall on Xavier Worthy.
I love that you're going to make the click on Xavier worthy like,
ah, this is so sick. And then right as you go, you're
like, what do I like them too much?
But I should probably take, I should probably take some
Jackson Smith and Jigma first just to be safe.
That's. So good, man.
Yeah. I don't know.
I maybe I'm the cell wall. I I think Worthy's, Worthy's a
solid pick, but it doesn't. I don't know, maybe I'm biased
because he's so tiny. I think it's because he's so
tiny. There are so many options.
Such a little. So many options because.
He's a plastic bag floats through the.
He's not. Even that tiny.
He's pretty tiny. He's 10 lbs bigger than Devonta
Smith. Yeah, but Devonta Smith has
this, like the the Slim Reaper nickname's so perfect for him
because when you see him out there, he doesn't like, he looks
so skinny, but he doesn't look tiny.
He doesn't look small. He's just super, super skinny.
I'll tell you, there are a couple plays that I think Chiefs
fans would remember about worthy to be like.
We think this guy belongs and there were a couple of them last
year. One that I think really
indicates that he is not too small.
The Bills play. I believe, well, the Bills play
was the the Bills play was really good, but that was more
about his ability as a wide receiver.
I believe it was an end around against the Chargers.
I don't remember who it was against, but he takes an end
around and just gets popped like full on like the safety, like
just like, and he he goes off onto the sideline and you're
like, oh, well, that's it. That's his career's over.
Like he was too small and then he just jogged back out on the
next play and it's like, OK, well, that, that I wanted that I
wanted to see like I do, I wanted to see him just get
popped by safety a couple times and get back up.
I, I, I don't know, man, if you just look at the, the things
that the chiefs value, they they value speed over size.
And just like all their picks since Tyree kill left have
indicated, I mean actually, honestly, even going back to
Hardman have indicated that. How about?
I'm watching him right now.
He isn't as he doesn't look tiny.
Maybe I'm I think I've shrunk him in my brain.
He looks. Fine, Many, many such cases.
How about by the way, Many. 50 Many.
Such 55 yards of of air to the
completion for Taekwon Thornton, that made me, that made me feel,
that made me feel some things. What?
What are they doing playing their guys and what what is
Kelsey doing on the field in preseason Week 3?
What's the point? They always do this, they always
do a dress rehearsal where where you get at least a.
Corner. Well, maybe one of these years
it'll work. I.
Think they've, I think, I believe they've won their season
opening game every year that Mahomes has played.
Their last game a fair amount of times too.
They have Q QB news if you're ready to move ahead, we've got
Daniel Jones in Indianapolis. We really haven't talked about
this having had the draft last week and not doing a regular
show. Joe Flacco in Cleveland.
We don't know on New Orleans yet.
Is it are you guys with the chorus?
I I think there is on what how Daniel Jones is a huge win for
their receivers and even Taylor. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely a
win. I don't think that this when we
were thinking about what could happen this summer, you know,
this training camp with the Colts.
I don't think that this outcome is a particularly good one where
you're like, what was the what was the mood in cults camp?
What was the kind of the reports out of camp?
Is it like both these guys suck That that was that was kind of
the general vibe. It was like, Jesus, you know?
And so then Anthony Richardson gets the first start.
He seems to actually have the lead.
He can't pick up that protection.
He doesn't understand what's going on.
He gets himself hurt. The coaches are just like, God
damn it, man. And then they're like, you know
what? No, we're not going to give you
this the start. You got yourself hurt.
We're going to give it to Jones, like we said.
And then they give Jones a start.
Jones does not look particularly good throughout any portion of
camp, but he's like, he can complete short passes and
they're like, you can kind of execute the offense sometimes.
So let's just give him the job. We're going to say he's the
starter for the whole year. That's what they said about
Flacco last year, by the way, and then brought back
Richardson. So they're full of shit.
Like they're going to go, they're going to play both these
guys because Jones stinks. And Jones has stunk it up all
summer. But the problem is Richardson
also stunk it up all summer. So it's hard to be too
optimistic here because they don't have a good quarterback.
That seems pretty clear. Corrine is absolutely correct.
The ideal thing for all of these options would have been for
Anthony Richardson to win the job outright, right?
I mean that, that that's, that's what we wanted.
We wanted Richardson to add in his ability as a short passer to
what he was able to do as a deep passer.
He he did not do that. So you're you're what you're
hoping is that you're hoping Michael Pittman junior is man, I
was I was going to go charmillion of Malik
Neighbors's, but he would be like the he'd be the magic carp
of of Malik Neighbors's and that Josh Downs is able to be the
Charizard of Wandell Robinson's that and and and that and that
Tyler Warren, I don't know, is able to get 75 receptions as as
the Theo Johnson conglomerate. Yeah, I mean, like this offense
is is really good outside of the quarterback in the legendary
upside article. I I had their their bad version,
the silent killer scenario being that they tank it out and get
Arch Manning to to come to the Colts.
That would be fun. You know, you can imagine like
an actual quarterback on this team that's like kind of ready
made actually for a for a good quarterback.
They just don't have one. Why is Flacco not on this team?
I don't know man. I really don't.
It's it's a huge bummer. It's a big bummer.
The the sporting cast is awesome.
The offensive line is good. It's not like dominant, but it's
a good offensive line, incredible supporting cast.
And Jones apparently has not looked good all of training
camp. He's just better than Richardson
has looked worse. I think you're yeah.
And I, by the way, I, I maintain I'm standing here, Chuck might
start or Rattler might start, but but Chuck is going to get
more games for this team for, for a couple reasons.
First, being Rattler is not good enough to hold off a quarterback
who might have any potential at all.
Secondly, being this team is like, they're just terrible.
And so if you're terrible, you might as well like give yourself
a chance to see if there's something with Chuck before you
take Arch Manning, but just give you give yourself the chance.
Like there might be something there and Chuck, maybe Chuck
could be a cost controlled quarterback too, right?
You, you tried it with Rattler. Rattler's not very good.
Like see what there is with Chuck?
Arson Steel released by the way. Yeah, sorry.
No, yeah, no, the chat's been throwing that out there.
That's a good, good. No, no, no, I we hadn't brought
it up yet. It's something we should have
mentioned already, is my point. The the valet trade I think is.
Terrible. Yeah, of course.
But it it's it's gives you a window into the mindset of the
Saints, right? What a team that would do that
isn't going to actually put up with a bunch of losses from
Rattler. This is a team that for some
reason thinks it's going to compete this year.
And so I I agree with Davis, I think Rattler is going to get
benched. I think Chuck's going to play.
Chuck might get benched too. Like they're going to this is
probably a quarterback. Carousel here.
They waved Jay Cannon. OK.
So it's the two of them, but yeah, we probably see both of
these guys kind of rotating in and out as they.
It could, it could literally be like 3 rattler, 2 Shuck 2
rattler like it could be they could both start 9 games in non
sequential order. 100% and yeah, I don't know.
They're going to be the whole year.
They'll be like, why? Why can't we get production out
of these guys? I just don't.
Care. Here's here's one for you.
Yeah, but.
What's going on? Will shudder Sanders make the
53? Yes.
Definitely. They just traded.
Can he pick it, man? That's right.
Healthy scratch who?
Who's active? Gabriel Week 1.
Gabriel. Gabriel's the backup.
Yeah, I do. I do think, I do think end of
end of the day, Schader is probably going to start the the
money weeks because they will have worked their way.
He's the quarterback 3, but they will have worked their way
through the roster to the point where he's starting in the money
weeks, which is so funny. I don't think so.
I think it's going. To be Gabriel, well, I'm
basically saying I don't think that Gabriel is going to play
that well because I'm I'm intimately familiar with Dylan
Gabriel watched a ton of him play.
He's like the most, he's like the most low level evolution of
like Gardner Minshew that there could possibly be.
So they put out Shadora Sanders in a preseason game and benched
his ass for. Snoop Hunt, I was going to, I
was going to say it's the lowest PFF grade I've ever seen for a
quarterback. He got sacked five times on 12
drop backs. They straight up benched him for
Snoop Huntley and cut Huntley the following day.
Yeah, they said they were planning to do that, but still,
like he, he flipped out, right Sanders.
I don't I actually, I'm not sure what his reaction was, but his
but the to me, that's the Stefanski was like, get this guy
out of my sight. Like that's that's what we like.
Who gets benched during a preseason game?
I I don't know. It's not.
I don't think Sanders is. I I was going to.
Say you know what it is, is like I would actually love if I was
AGM to be able to like actually develop Chadur to like keep him
on my roster for like 2 years and just like let him marinate
and cook in in my system. But you can't because he's
Dion's kid. You can't.
They're just everyone's too annoying about Chadur like every
everyone involved is. Here's what Here's what I think
we need. We need we need a task force to
go through YouTube, find the people who when you said I don't
think chador is is live to go one O 1.
I think it's going to be Cam Ward.
I don't think chador looks like he might be falling out of the
top three picks. The people that that just went
absolutely ham in the comments section of every single YouTube
video, all of the March and April, we just get you're off,
you're off YouTube, you take a year.
You're off YouTube. You're you're actually just,
you're off you. You're not allowed.
You can't. You're off YouTube.
You're you're, you're in time. Out it was.
It's the most egregious thing that's ever happened.
These people that were like, oh, could you even say this dude's a
star? Like this guy's getting benched
during preseason games after going to the fifth round.
Have you ever been more wrong about anything?
This is this is crazy. The Internet.
The internet's been pretty wrong about some stuff, but this
Internet was one of your lowest moments.
That's fair. Want to jump ahead the last
call, only two rounds left in the last call season this week
and then next. And then we, as Pete put it past
the baton to stat chasing, which will be great starting in two
weeks once the season gets going.
I've got one if you guys don't. Happy to wait my turn.
Picks ADP 200 or higher. Yeah, you should go because I'm
debating between a couple guys. I need to make sure my guy's not
been taken. I'll take Alec Pierce, who just
slid into the two hundreds. Yeah, that's maybe there's a
trade there. There was some speculation about
that. I don't know.
Do I want that? Not sure I do but.
I'm trying to figure out position.
Oh Flacco by the way for me shout out.
So I'm just like dead at tight end, which is an issue.
You're you're done with Gadsden already.
He was just not very good in the preseason.
He actually ran a ton of routes. Like he ran a ton of routes and
got 11 targets. I which I guess is not horrible,
but it's not very good either. I'm also feeling pretty weak at
wider. I'm trying to.
Figure out I'm going to go if there's yeah, go if I can.
I'll take Jalen Noel if he's still available.
I believe he is, yeah. He's in the two hundreds now.
Yeah, he just. What do you think of that?
I mean, I think it's, I think
it's pretty good. Yeah.
I think that I if I would have realized he was in the two
hundreds, I would have taken him.
But is I mean, are you, are you, how optimistic are you for him?
Oh, I'm pretty, I'm pretty optimistic because I don't think
Christian Kirk makes it through a whole season.
And I don't I I think that the ADP gap between Higgins and Noel
is is far too wide. Yeah, there was it was kind of a
throwaway comment Albert Brier Davis like you you got me as as
bad as Pete got me. You got me worse when you're
talking about what he should have done for the the best ball
Bros of of me talking about random ass podcast.
So let's do because Ivan joked that I was listening to Rich
Eisen, which is like not even in the rotation.
But this was this is literally a clip from the Rich Eisen show
that I saw is Albert Breer on Rich Eisen and he was talking
about Texans and where they're at.
And he was like, those rookies are ready to go.
Both those guys from both those kids from Iowa State, like
they're they're ready, they're going to they're going to
contribute. And I was like, that's you just
don't hear that much about Noel. And he's kind of he's, you know,
blocked by Kirk. But it was it was interesting
that that was kind of his impression coming from where the
Texans are at is that they're like the rookies are the rookies
are ready. So, yeah, we could be sleeping
here. We could be we could be overly
concerned about early, early season production on on a rookie
here. I do like to hear that.
Also look at Shope's running backroom.
My God, dude, I probably have rooms.
I probably have rooms that look like this in teams I've just
drafted, like in a team I drafted for Sirius.
It's your entire running bike. They're.
Probably Eaton, Mitchell, Prashard, Smith, Quorum, Hunt
and then Mafa. I might have lost him today, so
I might have to address that next week.
Yeah, so I'm trying to decide which.
My running back room is sick. Shipley Marx Gordon is a Gordon.
Dylan Sampson, who I got from Davis for Dylan Gabriel, I can't
believe you guys are the integrity of the league.
I can't believe you disallowed that trade.
I wasn't here. I'm the integrity director.
I was not here. The Record 0.
One of us would have had. Would have had to put a stop in
it. We have to.
We'd have to have a meeting after to decide whether trades
were allowable. All right, unless I am not
reading the board correctly and missing a name, I will select
Damien Pierce. Oh, nice.
Sure. I think he should.
I think he should be available. Yeah.
So is that. Everyone, how live is that?
We talked about that a little bit I guess already.
Not not that live, but I just I I should have done this less as
a bit and more seriously, like taking taking Savion Williams as
a bit or Typha or Elijah Moore. This is just.
I mean, how do you win the belt? You you can't win the belt as a
bit. No, no you can't.
Should be, should be a lesson. Learned.
Yeah, that should be a lesson learned for me.
Jacob can send his in from the plane I suppose.
Carol fan on this team. My team's actually coming
together here, Yeah. I'm enjoying it and if you are
new or just have been watching almost every week and we just
don't mention it, this is a game where we're looking for points
in the playoff weeks. The points are that the game is
weeks 15 through 17. I don't think we've explained
this once since we. Not once, no.
It's never been explained. That's right.
So shame on you, the the viewer, if you didn't know how this
actually worked. Imagine tuning in for August.
What are they doing? Explain what this is.
The general premise is kind of self-explanatory, good picks 200
and higher, but what are they actually doing?
Are we building rosters? Are we?
What are we doing? That's the you have JCM that is
a huge smash. He's got, he's got Broussard
Smith. Broussard Smith's going to
outscore JCM on the fantasy football player.
And he's got the best running back in football.
Theo Masoo. I got.
Mitchell. The best running back in the
NFL. I got away with Daniel Jones as
well. Dante Thornton seems live too.
I mean, he's probably a starter. Yeah, I don't know, Amari
Cooper. Probably not great for him,
right? No, Amari Cooper has nothing to
do with Deonte Thornton. He was good, Thornton.
Who is? Who is Amari Cooper to do with
then? Trey Tucker and Jack Bash.
OK. Cooper Cooper wasn't playing X
for the Bills. He's the the X was being held
down by Keon Coleman and Mac. Collins, once you turn, however
old Amari Cooper is, you'll you'll get in where you fit in.
Yeah, so he's he's AZ receiver, which is what Tucker plays and
what Besh was like kind of hoping to play unless he had to
take over from Jacoby Myers. So Deonte Thornton has been
their starting ex from like day one.
He you know, he's he caught a touchdown from from Geno Smith
on the back shoulder. They see him, you know, Geno's
been talking him up. He he's like he's their big.
He's like 6-3 and what, 4-3 something and he's there to
stretch the fields and, you know, maybe he can earn targets
and maybe he can't that, but that's the question.
But he's he's gonna, he's not losing routes to Amari Cooper.
Mari Cooper's not a big X receiver.
Like come on, Amari Cooper's a really old washed Z receiver.
Too bad Jacob is not here to just go ahead and take Kenny
Pickett for a Besh Cooper Raiders stack.
I'll just throw that out. I I'm I'm actually.
I'm actually very disappointed that they didn't just go full in
on the bit and just do Cam Miller and Tommy Mulat as their
backup quarterbacks because they drafted both of them in the
seventh round and they were both FCS.
They played against each other a bunch in in college.
That would have been for your quarterback room to be Geno
Smith and then two FCS running quarterbacks just would have
been, would have been a a truly hysterical bit, something I
would have enjoyed seeing play out in the National Football
League. I was.
I was bummed out. Too bad Coming up, Davis,
there's an announcement on the Swole cast.
Yes, Yeah, we, yeah, we did. We did.
We have a, we have a sponsor, I think so we'll be announcing
nice sponsor. Yeah.
So probably, probably one more, probably one more year before
Pete leaves us to go, you know, work with Kay Adams and Cam
Newton. YouTube, yes, what a cool thing.
Let's congratulate him on that while we're here.
What a what an amazing get that is YouTube for Chiefs Chargers.
He'll be in LA in the studio with Cam Newton and a bunch of
Dicks. It's crazy, man, isn't it?
It's, it's like Congrats to Pete and it's, it's just so awesome.
It's like the graphic alone, it is kind of mind blowing where
you're just like, because it, the thing I love about the
graphic is that like the the picture they chose and sort of
like part of the, the vibe of it feels like a bit, but then it's
also like so legit looking that it's not a bit.
So it like in your brain you have both like this is a bit and
this is real like kind of like fighting.
It's it's really, it's quite it's like the perfect graphic
for this sort of situation. But yeah, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm
excited for my brain to break as I watch Pete in studio doing
National Football broadcast. There's there's a world where
Kay Adams might hear I'm just a slap Raptor baby.
Let's hope. Do you?
Are you picturing now Kay Adams driving home from the studio?
Tapping. To herself.
Listen to Davis. We're all going to be singing
that now for a while. There's there's a world where
Pete kind of goes into improv mode because he's honest.
No, there's not. There's a world.
No, there's not. No.
Listen, listen to this. There's a world where Pete kind
of is in improv mode and he lapses into one of his bits
without really, like Derek Carr asked him a question.
He goes, you save your word, and then no, no, he catches himself
if. Pete clears his throat.
If Pete ever clears his throat on that broadcast, we know why
he was. We know why.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Swell cast at noon Eastern
today, Tuesday, Yes. 1515 minutes from now.
Pat, how much do you have left to do drafting wise like both of
you guys? Are you close to Davis?
I saw you tweet about leaning into drafters a little bit.
What do you guys have left? I have like half the DK league
DK, you know, their flagship. I want to Max that.
I've got about 80 teams I need to do there.
I did 10 at a time yesterday and kind of psyched about the teams.
So I'm going to do that again and that's how I'm going to how
I'm going to get there. I've got about I think I've 19
best ball manias left. I'm going to try to get the
Rottweiler in. If that hasn't filled yet, it's
not filled. OK, so I'm going to do that.
I'm going to do the Rottweiler superflex today.
I might multi table some puppies.
I doubt I I doubt it Max the puppy 4, but we'll see No more
slows obviously to enter, but I've got I think let's see I've
got like 250 slows left. I think I have 254 remaining
slows. I am on the clock currently in
60 and I've got 13 minutes left to make the first of those
picks, so OK. We'll get you out.
Yeah, I'll be. I'll be making some slow draft
picks in a few minutes. I'm drafting with Pete tomorrow,
he's got to finish up his as well so my slot is 1:00 eastern
for a best Ball Mania team with him.
Yep, and I've got my WGR shows tomorrow.
Steve Palazzolo will join me today, 3:00 Eastern.
With all the cuts still to come, there'll be a lot of news left
to parse through in the NFL. Pat, any other content you want
to mention? Well, the legendary running back
article I got out yesterday, so please go check that out.
It's it's completely free. And I also narrated it on the
Legendary Upside podcast, wherever you get your podcast.
So yeah, I went through, did deep dives into the potential
futures for these running backs, both negative and positive.
I think it's a lot of fun. So and then I also breakdown in
the how to play it section, what I'm actually doing with these
with these running backs. I also am going to be finishing
up my wide receiver article series this week on on breakout
wide receivers. Matt Irby had an article this
morning, as we mentioned, he's going to have another one
tomorrow and some offseason narrative stuff.
And yeah, we'll have more, more content rolling out on the site
rankings, all that good stuff. Legendaryupside.com.
Davis is like, wow, Mike got the call to draft 1 ( 1 best ball
mania team with Pete. Like welcome to the majors, Mr.
Show, right. I mean, that was your sort of
your reaction. There is I've I've.
This is the big time. Yeah, I just, I guess so.
The thing is, is I'm in the same situation as Pete.
I also, I have 25 Basketball Mania drafts left that I have to
stream this week. So I'll basically if if I'm not
on a show with someone else, I'll be drafting on my own.
Crane, you have time this afternoon.
You want to come? On yeah, I could jump on.
OK, all right, I will. I will message.
You how easy it is. Look how easy.
What did I had? Something else to say?
We have a main event sometime soon with Crack.
We've got a we got a stream ship chasing tonight, right?
Do we? Am I needed for this one?
No, I don't think. I think it might be with just
Gretch, Gretch, Leone and me and Pete.
OK, cool. Because.
I did not have that on my. Noble of you guys to continue
drafting main event teams after hours.
I mean, you might as well try to win your.
League I I have my main with Silva, Thorman, Reeves and JJ
tomorrow have a silver bullet. It's on the NFFC with Leone.
I've already done 15 puppy drafts this morning and I did 2
DK best ball Millie makers while we were doing the show.
Shout out to the sidekick I. I think I might get 3000 drafts
in maybe 2500 over the course of the I.
I just it has to be done. Davis is drafting teams while
we're talking, and I'm worried about sipping a beer.
All right, we are. We are.
It is tonight, tonight, 8:00 PM Eastern, ship chasing.
We are going to do a big payback, the 5K big payback with
Mike Leone. Can you highlight Chris's
comment here? Christopher Stone's comment?
It's three up. Yeah, no, that's mine.
No way. It's easy to get 3000 drafts in
with sight. You know what?
I'd like to amend my answer that actually was the best bit.
The best bit was yeah. Was the was the dungeon?
Was the dungeon dweller. Because the the the face
distortion was perfect. It was, I think that's what
that's just every part of it. I don't know how you're this is
some accuracy to this. That was was impressive.
I thought the Trump part was incredible.
I saw some oh the the integrity protector.
Yeah, I mean, yeah. A a colleague of mine is in the
video receiving the literal Medal of Honor.
He he's David Bellavia, who works at WBEN here in Buffalo on
the radio next to me. He is in the beginning that is a
shot of his Medal of Honor presentation, and then later on
he's removed. Maybe there's different Trump
clips there, but it was cool to see.
That that's funny. David in there.
That's it. One more next week.
Sure, we'll have Jacob back for Pat Davis.
Mike ADP chasing Steal later.