1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,680 Hi there, Mike Shope here from just outside Niagara Falls. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,720 Buffalo warming up. Sun is out. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,320 Today we recap the combine, tapping heavily into our hero's 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,000 depth of knowledge. Pat Koran and Davis Maddock on 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,560 these college players, what the events of the weekend will mean 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,840 or do already to their draft value in our world. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Also in the real world, Matthew Stafford stays in LA Debo Samuel 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,640 off to Washington. We'll spend a minute on the 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,880 latest quarterback buzz and veteran wide receivers. 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,920 There are a lot of them and it's kind of icky knowing what to do 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,360 or trying to figure out what to do with guys like Samuel. 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,120 Now. At least we know where he'll 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,000 play. Thanks for watching, listening. 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,720 Let's get right to it. ADP Chasing. 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,800 This is March March 3rd, 2025. ADP chasing is for when you 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,880 watch ship chasing you go these guys are just football guys and 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,280 the targets for outrun leagues. That's going to be really nice, 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,760 actually, back in, if it's Austinette, it's. 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Stared to our crystal ball. Close your eyes, you know all 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,640 your entries are going to lose anyway. 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,440 Yeah, that's fair. This is a Deuce Vant show. 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,840 It's. Anti cabal. 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,680 It's anti the best ball thought leader. 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,960 I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a 25 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:16,200 lot of both of these guys. It's the most disgusting thing 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:26,600 you can make, but man. 1st with some ADP chasing news I got 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,720 clipped. Wow, Big Dave. 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,040 What a Raven crew. What a big color I. 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,560 Got. To do. 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,560 We just got to get more fights, Mike. 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,680 Wow, they love it. They do. 32 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:41,200 People do love it. Pat, your favorite thing about 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,480 it, and I think so was mine, was Davis's reaction in the middle, 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,640 like just sort of like, let him work it out? 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Because Davis, we got Davis's attention. 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:55,080 I I had frankly completely forgotten that part of the lore, 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,560 the the, the Nathan Peterman part of the lore. 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,560 Oh, buddy. Yeah, that that had come. 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,920 I had memory wiped that beyond beyond memory. 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,960 Was was it the previous year where he threw like 4 41 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,240 interceptions 'cause I there's a live final that I was at that we 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,080 that he just like completely bombed. 43 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,880 So in 2017, offense is kind of scuffling. 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,280 Sean McDermott puts Peterman in over Tyrod Taylor for a game in 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,920 that soccer stadium the Chargers played at. 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,680 OK, yeah, one or two years and it was four or five picks in the 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,080 first half. I mean, it was like so bad. 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,920 And my point in the discord to you guys or to the to everybody, 49 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:42,040 I think maybe was if Peterman had been some percentage better, 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,720 this could have been really different here, like because he 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,000 did start Week 1 the next year, even though they had drafted 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,240 Allen. That's what we got, you know, 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,800 got into it about, I mean, I mean, probably a lot better, but 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,880 still within the range of outcomes because he had been 55 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,880 like, OK. Well, I mean the the the classic 56 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:04,360 example of a team actually sitting a guy, there's two, I 57 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,320 guess there's there's three right where the one that people 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,880 first come to mind is Patrick Mahomes. 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,200 But you get to the playoffs with Alex Smith, then you've got 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Jordan Love sitting behind Aaron Rodgers is winning MVPS and you 61 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,200 have a Rodgers sat behind Farv. You know, I'm sure there's some 62 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,160 other examples, but most my point was really about you got 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,080 to be good, you got to be making the play offs, you got to be 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,240 like in the MVP race and stuff. And I do think that the Peterman 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,120 line from what he was to where he needed to get it was just too 66 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,280 far. It's just, it's just a lot to 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,840 ask. The best was so Alan gets hurt 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:45,360 in 18 and Peterman gets a start against Chicago and it's the end 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,760 of the first half. It's 28 to nothing. 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,000 Bears and the Bills have they get a penalty, so they've 71 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,400 untimed down in the first half inside the bear is 40, so it's a 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Hail Mary. Like it's 28 to nothing. 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,720 It's always it's Hail Mary if it's nothing to nothing and the 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,680 Peterman takes the snap, guys run down the field and he just 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,360 runs. I mean, is he going to score? 76 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,160 Is he trying to score on that? There's no lateral. 77 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,040 It's just a 24 yard run. Goes into the history books. 78 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,240 I do always love that move. Super Bowl court. 79 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,079 Super Bowl winning quarterback Jalen Hurts sat behind Carson 80 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:19,320 Wentz after being drafted in the second round. 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,440 Obviously the math switches a little bit when they're a second 82 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,080 round pick actually. That's part of it too, yeah. 83 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Well, you know what's interesting? 84 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,680 You're actually more incentivized to start the second 85 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,640 round guy early on because you've got one less year to 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,760 decide if he's any good or not. And Wentz being the one O 2 was 87 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,040 in was in the wind there as opposed to like Alex Smith. 88 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Right. Yeah. 89 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,720 It's just, it's just that once you take a guy that high, people 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,880 start clamoring and they they were in a position where they 91 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,240 weren't really clamoring for Hertz. 92 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,520 But then once you played Hertz, it's like, oh. 93 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,840 OK. You could do the Hertz, the 94 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:52,000 Hertz pick. It was pretty shocking, wasn't 95 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,040 it? How do you remember that? 96 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,800 Like just for what? I mean nobody that everybody 97 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,120 loved. All the dumbest people on earth 98 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,040 were like I can't believe that they would take Jalen hurds and 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,320 then everyone that is considered sharp by everyone else was like 100 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,600 good pick. Can never have too many 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,320 resources at quarterback. I was on Team Dumb for for a 102 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,880 minute until Kevin Cole wrote an article that changed my mind. 103 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,200 I was give him credit there because he he saw what they were 104 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:24,080 doing and you know, investing in the quarterback trying to get 105 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,760 trying to give him themselves as many outs. 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,480 I give, I give you, I give you a pass because you don't watch 107 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,160 college football at all. So to you, Taylor Hurts was just 108 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,800 like another guy off the assembly line. 109 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,720 So if you don't watch college football at all, maybe you're 110 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,720 like, well, what is happening? I was confused. 111 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,600 I was like what Wentz is, and I thought Wentz was better than he 112 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,920 was. So I was like, what you have 113 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,880 Wentz, what are you doing? But the fact that they had Wentz 114 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,040 and then still took another shot is actually, as we saw, very 115 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,520 sharp. Yeah, for a lot, for a long time 116 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,240 here in Buffalo, my thing was just draft a quarterback with 117 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,960 every pick. I don't even care anymore. 118 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,440 You don't have a franchise guy. And it peaked. 119 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,080 It peaked in 2012. You guys remember TJ Graham? 120 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,360 Oh, yeah. Wide receiver TJ Graham. 121 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Oh, yeah, Yeah. So yeah, it's the first round, 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,680 then the second round, and there's Russell Wilson in the 123 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,480 third round. Like guys just, and of course, 124 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,880 you know, years go by and then the Bills tell you like, they 125 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,160 really wanted Russell Wilson. They really wanted Dak Prescott 126 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,440 too, in his year, but he just went what? 127 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,400 Yeah. Around 4 so they they picked TJ 128 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Graham and Ryan Fitzpatrick, threw him some passes and then 129 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,440 they just turned it over again. Well, both of you guys are fans 130 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,120 of teams that that really don't need. 131 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,480 They're like, you know, but there's like four teams that 132 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,240 like, don't need to be doing this at all. 133 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,640 You guys are fans of two of them. 134 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,720 But you know, but you know, even good teams historically will 135 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,680 take guys on day three the the Patriots, Patriots, the Patriots 136 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,680 just did this and did this and did this and they just 137 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,840 continuously turn a profit on. It Yeah, it's true, by the way. 138 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Ryan Mallet. Kevin O'Connell. 139 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,280 Kevin O'Connell. They they got a second for Jimmy 140 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:06,200 G, You got a freaking second for Jimmy G, who I think he started 141 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,120 like three games his whole Patriots career. 142 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Did they get anything for Berset? 143 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,880 They drafted him too. I want to say. 144 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,680 They got a start for the Colts. I want to say they got a fourth 145 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,760 for him but I would probably need to Fact Check that. 146 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Well, I was going to ask are are are there guys in this year's 147 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,320 class that you're if you, if you were or if you're just trying to 148 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,760 do the turn of profit thing? I think, I think the eligible 149 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,960 like Dart is not eligible. He's probably going late. 150 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,920 First round, he's going. In the first round. 151 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,480 Yeah. They stay woke, stay woke. 152 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,080 Dart haters stay. Woke. 153 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:41,600 I think I Chuck is borderline. Give me OK, enough, enough of 154 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,520 the Tyler Shuck man. He's 26 some I. 155 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,040 Think he's 27. I think he turns 27 before this 156 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,480 season. I just, I, I turn on my streams 157 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,640 every week and there's always at least one guy in there who's. 158 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,360 A Oh no. You're taking can't believe 159 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,760 you're taking dart when Shuck is on the board dude. 160 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Can't believe you're such a a a a dart slappy when you could be 161 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,880 a Shuck slappy. The Shuck thing is crazy because 162 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,320 like, he's he was never like that good. 163 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,440 Like his final season's like, fine like. 164 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,520 He's 27 and he has 3000 college passing yards total. 165 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,560 Not in a season total. It's like. 166 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,480 To be fair with this Chucky, he's 25, but he does turn 26 in 167 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,760 September, so yeah. We're really trying to rush him 168 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,120 along, aren't we? Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you. 169 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,240 I'll tell you the number one guy that I'd won if I was AGM is it 170 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,240 is if this, if Jalen Millro really is going to be a guy, you 171 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,320 can pay a developmental quarterback price for it. 172 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,679 Just get him in my building if you can, even even even around 173 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,240 3, like I don't really care what my quarterback situation is if 174 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,600 he's a round three pick. I mean the tool like he's bad, 175 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,280 but you know, get him in your building, get him coached up. 176 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,840 He doesn't have to start. There's no pressure. 177 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Just like get him in my building bro. 178 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,840 It sounds like that sounds like Malik Willis. 179 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,480 Exactly. Sure. 180 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,560 And I would have done the same thing with Willis. 181 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,760 The guy So from a fantasy perspective, I'm interested in 182 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,920 Millroe. If he ever gets starts, we're 183 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,920 going to be, you know, like min min salary DFS. 184 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,200 Like we're we're jamming Millroe naked. 185 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,680 Deshawn. Deshawn Kaiser. 186 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, exactly. 187 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,360 Malik Willis is kind of what I think he probably is going to 188 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,840 be. And it makes sense to take a a 189 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,160 shot on him because he's got some, you know, the tools are 190 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,920 there for sure. But the dude, if you want to go 191 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,360 real boring, if you want to go the Patriots model and try to 192 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,200 find your Jimmy G and and look, I mean, backup quarterbacks are 193 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,680 really valuable. You know the the Dolphins wish 194 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:35,560 they had a backup. Quarterback having a backup 195 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:38,480 quarterback that you pay $400,000 to. 196 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,760 Like people have been talking about this Joe Milton trade and 197 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,720 I'm like, do you know how good of a deal it is to pay your 198 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,040 backup quarterback $400,000 instead of $6 million? 199 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,000 It's huge. Exactly. 200 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,440 So I'm intrigued by Dylan Gabriel. 201 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,360 Dylan Gabriel, who I just think Dylan Gabriel can play, man. 202 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,200 He's, I was digging into his profile like 3 different 203 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,360 schools. Now he's a bit of an older guy 204 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,280 too, but he was like good at all the schools and sometimes great. 205 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,080 And he's like, he's too short and he's like, he's like 200 lbs 206 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:13,920 and his arm's not like great. It's like it's probably an NFL 207 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,160 arm, but it's not a good NFL arm. 208 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,440 Keep talking, talking. Into it, but this dude was just 209 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,880 like, he's just a good quarterback. 210 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,760 He's mobile. He's like able to actually like 211 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,120 run an offense. I think you have like at least a 212 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,000 backup quarterback. And then like what if, what if 213 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,800 he's like, you know, you think you're getting old Andy Dalton, 214 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,120 but what if he's young Andy Dalton? 215 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,920 You know, this guy started for a long time and you could get this 216 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,760 guy in round three. I think that that would be my my 217 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,040 low, my high floor guy. If if Noro's the high ceiling, 218 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,680 he's the high floor. Kyle McCord would probably would 219 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:54,880 cut would probably be my like it's round 5 the the day three 220 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,840 running back we wanted got taken 4 picks ahead of us. 221 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,760 Yeah Zach making the note of the the will Howard people. 222 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,600 I mean will Howard and I went to the same college. 223 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,280 I would love to be biased towards him, but he's really not 224 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,680 very because he doesn't even have the if you're not going to 225 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:15,400 be real toolsy and you're not going to be real accurate and 226 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,720 you're not going to be real precise, you better be like 227 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,360 insanely accurate. And he's also not that so. 228 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,680 Well, that that's why I like Gabriel. 229 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:28,120 I think he's the poor man's Bryce Young. 230 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:32,000 Bryce Young is like the closest comp that comes up for him 231 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,160 statistically, but I think he's more, he's less of like got to 232 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,360 scramble around and make plays and more I think can do it in 233 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,760 structure is my is my hope. But I think he's less, he's less 234 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,120 gifted physically, which isn't great. 235 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,160 Did the did the combine do anything to the quarterback 236 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,360 pecking order I. Don't think so. 237 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,160 No, it it did. It did because now, now it's 238 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,720 popular to say Dart is going to go ahead of Shudur or should go 239 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:58,920 ahead of Shudur. That was not a. 240 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,720 Popular mistake. This was my take last week. 241 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,400 The idea that Shudur had nothing to gain was nuts. 242 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,760 People were like so awful on this and and it's not to hate on 243 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Shudur. I saw like comments, people went 244 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,240 out like he's going to prove you're wrong as going #1 like if 245 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,800 you want to go #1 then maybe throw at the combine show that 246 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,560 you can do it, compete. Like he sat there and his stock 247 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:25,200 dropped. It was, I don't think you should 248 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,160 do that if if you're not the quarterback one in a class like 249 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,640 you shouldn't sit on on your draft stock and assume it can't 250 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,240 go down. He should have at least thrown, 251 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,520 he should have at least went out. 252 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,600 There Yeah, yeah, who cares about the drills just. 253 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,920 Throw Yeah, because because Dart went out there and threw and did 254 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,800 his little, you know, spin moves or whatever and everyone's like 255 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,880 right, pretty good. He made he made this one really 256 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,080 great throw over towards the sideline and I was like, I don't 257 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,120 think I don't think chitter can make that throw, which is like 258 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,200 all right, because the only reason I was into dart to begin 259 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,600 with was just because the market was off. 260 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Like I thought there's a good chance you know how this 261 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,240 happens. The market is kind of off on 262 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,240 something and you're like, oh, I'm going to start taking this 263 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,720 guy and then. And then all of a sudden he's 264 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,920 like. Well, you have to start to you 265 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,960 got exactly you have to defend the position. 266 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,880 You're like, This is why I'm right. 267 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,440 And now I'm like learning about Jackson Dart and like watching 268 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,120 Jackson Dart and I'm like, he's kind of pretty good. 269 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,960 I got to say I, I might have said it last week when it came 270 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,440 up. I, I think the Sanders thing is 271 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,960 an overreaction. Just like, you know, he's going 272 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,720 to have his pro days, he's going to throw to receivers he's 273 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,360 thrown to before and like everybody on on Saturday. 274 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,200 And I mean, he's saying. Yeah, it'll probably be fine. 275 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,560 He he, he probably I don't he's going to be quarterback 2 at 276 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:41,000 worst. There's still I. 277 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,240 Don't think that's. I don't think that's true, man. 278 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,560 I don't think you can say it worst, no. 279 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:46,960 I mean there's a lot of love for dart. 280 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,840 There's been 3 darts this whole time. 281 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,280 There's, you know, dart is a polarizing prospect, but the 282 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,600 people who like him really like him. 283 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,720 And you only need a team, one team to be like this is our guy. 284 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,040 That's the thing. Where do you want a player like 285 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Sanders? I mean, is he, he's going to 286 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,560 need time? Is he that? 287 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,360 Is he Week 1 starter? I think he kind of is a guy who 288 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,120 needs time. Like the cops that came up for 289 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,080 me were were guys who actually really struggled in their rookie 290 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,560 seasons and then like you maybe got a little bit from them 291 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,760 later. I, and from a, I'm looking at 292 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,680 this through more of a fantasy lens, so struggling to me is 293 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,960 like, you know, how many fancy points per game did you produce? 294 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:30,160 But it's a little bit like, you know, he, he takes sacks you, 295 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,640 you worry about it. There's like, you know, he 296 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,360 creates, but he sometimes creates mistakes outside of 297 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,640 structure too. So you worry about that part of 298 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,480 it. And then how does he score? 299 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,960 How does he contribute positively not he doesn't have a 300 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,520 big arm. So it's not like a ton of like 301 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,360 big time downfield throws. He's not he's, he's mobile in 302 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,840 the sense that he can move around. 303 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,600 But he, well, you know, you know, the spot where he'd, he'd 304 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,240 be good for fantasy would be the Giants, because he'd just get to 305 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,040 throw to neighbors. Yeah, I think that would be OK. 306 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,280 You you need volume, you need volume and and kind of what I'm 307 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,320 getting as I think as a rookie, he could struggle to get enough 308 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,560 volume, You know, because they're trying to work him in 309 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,080 slowly and actually in year two or three, he kind of reigns in 310 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,240 some of the bad stuff and they put more on his plate. 311 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,560 All of a sudden now he's pretty good fantasy quarterback would 312 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,320 be, I think kind of the general trajectory that that he strikes 313 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,280 me with now. Maybe he lands in an awesome 314 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,880 situation and it's good right away. 315 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,640 He is so cheap in the big board that I do take him, but I but he 316 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,640 does he worries me. I. 317 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,000 I you know where I don't want to see him, It would be if the 318 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,960 Titans do this trade down, they trade down from 1 and they end 319 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,960 up picking it like 7 or something and they're like, all 320 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,240 right, whatever, we'll just take him. 321 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,800 It's like, OK, he's thrown to Calvin Ridley and. 322 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,440 Yeah. Don't worry about I, I wouldn't 323 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,120 worry about that. The the optics of a team trading 324 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,920 down and then drafting their quarterback. 325 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,800 Just like, you know, I just take him in the in the first place. 326 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,920 That's so true. That's so true. 327 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,960 That's a great point, Mike. EJ Emanuel with the The Saint 328 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,440 Louis Rams. Jeff Fisher, they traded down 329 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,400 and then drafted manual like OK, I mean you didn't want to draft 330 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,640 them at like 7, I get it, but you're. 331 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,280 Still, PJ Manuel? That's your guy, right? 332 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,600 Yeah, the the bill traded with the Rams, Tavon was who the Rams 333 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,600 wanted. And then yeah, I wouldn't want 334 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,640 to do that. What what's Pittsburgh in this 335 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,320 like the the Giants thing? It's not going to be Matthew 336 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Stafford 5 seconds after that news. 337 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,520 It's like, OK, Aaron Rodgers, we're going to try for that now. 338 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,920 I tell you, I tell you, I mean, Justin Fields is going to be the 339 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,280 starter for the Steelers. But I tell you what they I think 340 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:41,200 would have loved to have sat at 21 or 22 and taken Mr. Golden. 341 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,120 And I think that option, I think that option got removed for 342 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,200 them. So they're looking at Ebuka at 343 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,240 best. Pittsburgh. 344 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Yeah, yeah. And. 345 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,640 I hope they they take dart that would be I don't want them 346 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,800 taking a receiver that that's where receivers go to die. 347 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Yeah, they're always good at drafting wide receivers, though. 348 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,960 I know, but I mean. The players become crazy for 349 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,960 some reason the the Steelers draft you. 350 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,599 You put up a huge year right away and then you go nuts. 351 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:13,359 The Steelers, The Steelers organization is great at 352 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,599 identifying receivers. When I say they that's where 353 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,640 they go to die, I mean more the Arthur Smith offense. 354 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,040 That's that's why I don't want them to draft a receiver. 355 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,920 So when I get to Golden here, I mean you talk about what Sanders 356 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,840 may have lost may have by not throwing participating. 357 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,040 What about Ted McMillan this week and did Golden possibly 358 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,480 pass him? I think the fact that Golden was 359 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,200 the only wide receiver who like smashed the combine, who was in 360 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,640 the first round conversation means it kind of netted out 361 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,080 neutral. Like maybe I actually think 362 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,960 these reports, I don't remember if it was Kuiper, Mcshea tweeted 363 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,800 that he was talking to guys of the combine and they were like 364 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,320 Golden's number one on our board. 365 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,480 We we like him more than than Tet. 366 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,240 I think that is possible. I don't think I'd do that if I 367 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,480 was a GM. Davis, sorry, just what was he 368 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,720 as a college player like there's not 1000 yard season. 369 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,680 What are we? What are you doing with that? 370 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,280 So like he was really productive really early at Houston, but he 371 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,880 was teammates with Tank Del as a true freshman. 372 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,600 So Tank Del obviously turned to this awesome NFL player. 373 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,760 So you forgive him a little bit for that. 374 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,240 Then he gets injured the next year at Houston. 375 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Then he transfers to this Texas team that Isaiah Bond 376 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,120 transferred to, that Silas Bolden who led Oregon State, 377 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,920 transferred to that Amari Niblack from Alabama transferred 378 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,400 to. They have the all these great 379 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,160 running backs. They have this terrible 380 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,520 quarterback and then they have this very spreadsheet socialist 381 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,440 offense where they they chop and change guys. 382 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,520 I mean, the reports were so like, if you use like college 383 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,360 basketball, fantasy football, like as an analog, like, what 384 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,840 did the market expect those guys to do? 385 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:02,280 Golden was outside the top 200 picks in college basketball last 386 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,040 year. He was going after Bond. 387 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,960 He was going after this guy. Silas Bolden winds up not 388 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,520 playing at all. Frankly, I think after watching 389 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,120 Worthy and Mitchell play in the NFL now I know Mitchell kind of 390 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,960 had like his head seems to not be in the game, but he clearly 391 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,840 is awesome at getting open. I, I am of the opinion, and it 392 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,600 does not seem like this is a popular opinion, that that I'm 393 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:31,120 almost don't care what guys do at Texas in the last three 394 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:33,440 years. I I like almost don't care. 395 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,720 Why are there still Quinueurs bulls that that's the part of it 396 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,280 that it just like I there's there's still stuff like, Oh my 397 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,760 God, you could get Quin ewers in in round two. 398 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,520 This is crazy like he he's he might be the best quarterback in 399 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,600 the class. Like this guy. 400 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,440 Doesn't he clearly suck? My God, I really don't. 401 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,120 Get it? I mean, if Golden, if Golden 402 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:57,280 goes in round one and then plays well as a rookie, you you got to 403 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,280 be looking at Quin Ewers like brother, what is going on? 404 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,600 What is the deal? Here there's a common 405 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,920 denominator, here I don't I really don't understand it. 406 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,040 But yeah, I mean gold golden to me. 407 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,600 When we first looking at mock drafts and big boards, it was 408 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,320 like tet #1 Luther burden #2 and now I've I feel like it's it's 409 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,360 almost Burden who might have lost now Burden was was pretty 410 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:25,240 fast. I was. 411 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,400 Gonna say he had a good combine. Yeah, he was. 412 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,000 I think he had a 441. So it's like, not that he didn't 413 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:38,440 run well, but Burden was more like the the star recruit. 414 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,920 You know, he had a good 2023, disappointed 2024. 415 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,240 And so you're kind of like you're living on some of the 416 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,680 earlier like, well, we all know Burden's good. 417 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,720 But it's like more and more people come into the process 418 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,600 that like don't know that Burden is good. 419 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,440 It might he might not convince them of that. 420 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,880 And Golden seems to be convincing people who like, 421 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,560 yeah, we didn't, we didn't really think much of this guy. 422 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,440 But as new people come into the process, they're like, give me 423 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,800 that guy. I so I think Golden, even if he 424 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,960 doesn't flip Tet looks to be really making a case to be the 425 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,800 wide receiver two. Maybe Igbuka is a wide receiver 426 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,320 2 and he's a wide receiver 3. But, but I mean, if you want 427 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,280 like the tool, I guess why I'm comparing him to Burden 428 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,960 specifically is like he's like kind of that, you know, one 429 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,040 92200 LB guy who's like, you know, kind of the well, he's 430 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,880 he's a shifter, you know, athletic guy. 431 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,520 Rorschach test prospects. You know exactly what IGBUCA is 432 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,400 going to be. IGBUCA is coming in. 433 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,640 Just give me like a pretty fine slot wide receiver, you know? 434 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,520 Reliable. Reliable, yeah. 435 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,280 I don't think he's likely to be like a star, whereas like 436 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,720 Golden's got, I don't know, 6% chance to become a star in the 437 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,160 NFL or something like that. Yeah. 438 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Burden, Burden I like too. 439 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,480 I mean, Burden I I, I think I am. 440 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,880 I started out high when he was a sophomore. 441 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,840 Then I was like, why is this guy getting out? 442 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,600 Produced by Theo Wheeze. Then I just did some more 443 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:20,320 reading and like all the all the film guys were like, everyone at 444 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,600 Missouri is idiots. He's fine and he tested well and 445 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,840 the the NFL, you know, intelligentsia seemed to be 446 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,720 pretty in on him. So I'm I'm pretty in on him. 447 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,840 But golden, I mean, I moved golden up. 448 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,280 I golden. I already had 10 spots ahead of 449 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,440 ABP. We've been hiding my. 450 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,760 Rankings and I moved him up 15 more spots after that. 451 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,200 Golden Golden was a really easy kind of steam candidate. 452 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,440 I think where it's like he's got the he's going to get the draft 453 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,840 capital. Even if he wasn't first round, 454 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,160 he was going to be second round and that's been clear for a 455 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,320 while now. I think he's he's now like, is 456 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,840 he mid first? Is he, you know, top 15 that 457 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,080 that's all pretty live. Now, well, the the The funny 458 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:07,720 thing is that Corinne, I think you guys at leg up or not on 459 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,520 this, but I was taking a lot of bond being like. 460 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,600 No, yeah, he's. Gonna go, he's gonna go to the 461 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,920 combine and the same thing that's happening to Golden's 462 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,440 gonna happen for him. And then he literally, I mean 463 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,720 don't ever remember a guy running 4/4 ruining his career. 464 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,360 Before a bond, bond. Running 44 legit like he's going 465 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:27,720 round 6 now. Just keep your mouth shut. 466 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,400 Yeah, man, he's I, I didn't, I didn't really see it with Bond. 467 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,200 Bond was one of those profiles that's like, you know who 468 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,760 brought this is a weird comp, but it is a Texas comp. 469 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,840 But Bond is like a little bit the Jatavian Sanders of of this 470 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600 class where it's like he's like it's like draft capital and 471 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,680 athleticism. And then you're like, oh, the 472 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,000 athleticism isn't what I thought. 473 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,080 And then the draft capital is dependent on the athleticism and 474 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,880 it's all, it all comes crashing down. 475 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,480 It's like a so one of those mortgage-backed this is the big 476 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,640 Short. Yeah. 477 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,840 I, I like the comp. I thought you were going to go 478 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,200 Whittington where it was like Whittington was there with all 479 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,360 these other guys who were way better than him and never did 480 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,160 anything. But maybe the fact that he was 481 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,480 there with all the guys who are better than him is, is hiding 482 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,480 it. And that I, I mean, who knows? 483 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,560 I my, my bond bags are what they are. 484 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,600 I can't. I think it's like a if he's, if, 485 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,040 you know, if he falls and falls, I think he's he's fine, But he 486 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,280 just didn't, I don't know. I just didn't see him as 487 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,320 belonging with these guys. I just felt like the the case 488 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,640 around his draft capital was pretty thin because I wasn't 489 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,760 hearing a lot of like, oh, Isaiah Bond, He jumps out To me. 490 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,520 It was more like a leftover from kind of the college evals. 491 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,160 I mean, draft capital will be big. 492 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,200 Thinking of Jayvon Baker last year and likes him in that 493 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,120 second round area, you know, in the NFL draft. 494 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:55,360 And so many of those guys went. He caught one pass last year for 495 00:24:55,360 --> 00:25:00,080 a desperate New England team. So just back to McMillan for a 496 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,320 minute. What if anything, did he cost 497 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,280 himself? Like is he still They'll have 498 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,080 the pro day and maybe he's the same but maybe not. 499 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,840 Yeah, I don't think it was a good sign. 500 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:21,520 I mean, I think he he could have like if he had a 45540 sorry, 501 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:28,040 455 A 36 inch vert, like 120 inch broad jump and then skips 502 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,120 the agilities. I think he's the people like 503 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,480 check, he's good. It the fact that he didn't work 504 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,400 out is like a little it's a little concerning to me. 505 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,040 I did like actually in his measurements, he has 10 inch 506 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,360 hands and I think a decent part of his profile is to be like 507 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,960 that super reliable kind of intermediate target that just 508 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,920 catches everything. He's Drake London and yeah, and, 509 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,040 and it's help if you're trying to be Drake London, it's 510 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,760 helpful. It's helpful to have 10 inch 511 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,520 hands. I think, you know, so kind of 512 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,840 playing the power forward like like basketball role. 513 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,320 So I actually came away from, from and the thing with Ted 514 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,600 McMillan is like, OK, so you get the, you have, you have the 515 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,440 production profile that you're looking for. 516 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,480 And then you also have a guy who was a legit recruit because like 517 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,920 one of the things you you'd be afraid of with Ted Mcmillan's 518 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,600 prospect profile is that like he didn't go to one of these big 519 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,760 time schools, but he was a big time recruit and decided that he 520 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,200 wanted to play with his high school quarterback. 521 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,920 And he went and did that. And then he had opportunities to 522 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,520 transfer and he didn't do that. That's like, at no point was he 523 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,680 like not on great school's radar. 524 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,800 He could have played for a big time program. 525 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,720 That was a personal choice. And so I. 526 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,520 Tried to give him a bunch of NIL money to leave with Noah Fafita 527 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,200 and he did. I don't know why I I didn't read 528 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,640 into it enough to know why he didn't. 529 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,360 But both he and Fafita stayed at at Arizona. 530 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,240 Smells like a guy who people are going to say doesn't love 531 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,000 football quite enough. I think he loves playing. 532 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,440 He he said he was like really proud that like it had been some 533 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,640 crazy number of you like eight straight years or something that 534 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760 he'd caught a touchdown pass from Noah Fafida and that like 535 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,200 that just like made him really happy. 536 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,880 They're like best friends. I think he I mean to me, it's 537 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,000 like I want to, I want to play football and environment where I 538 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 like, I love it, you know, that's. 539 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:32,960 Maybe not, maybe not love football, but, and I'm not going 540 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,640 to be the one saying it, it's just sort of the the descriptors 541 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,600 here. Maybe he'll be a guy like, does 542 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,400 he want to be great? You know, like it. 543 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,960 Does he, does he, does he have that dog in him? 544 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,080 Does he the dog? Yeah, but it's a it's a profile 545 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,640 to me where if he goes like 4 to the Patriots, I'm obviously 546 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,080 super psyched. Good for the Drake Maybags if he 547 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,640 goes like you know, to the Cowboys at 12:00 AM I worried 548 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,280 about that fall. No, no, I'm not worried about 549 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,800 that fall. Like I, I don't if he would, if 550 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,720 he goes to the, if he falls to like the late 1st or the second 551 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,800 round, then I would be like, OK, I, I thought this guy was like 552 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,520 kinda in the mix for, you know, the top picks. 553 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,960 And that's a long fall, but kind of anywhere in that general 554 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,760 range. I, I'm still in. 555 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,280 And I honestly, if someone wants to take gold, if the Saints want 556 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,160 to take golden ahead of them, good for them. 557 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,920 Like I I'm not gonna Ding McMillan. 558 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,520 God, please. Fantasy perspective. 559 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,640 Not that golden, please not to the same. 560 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,160 Fan It does seem like something they do right. 561 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,800 It does. It sounded perfect. 562 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,040 You said it. And then there's Travis Hunter, 563 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,080 by the way, who, you know, where does he go at this point? 564 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,680 I left the combine feeling more bullish about him playing wide 565 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,720 receiver than I did coming into it. 566 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,880 Me too. Everybody said it like. 567 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,520 Everybody said it. Me too. 568 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,200 The the the execs start filing into Indianapolis and he's going 569 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,320 to be a corner at the combine. That's kind of what the vibe 570 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,120 was. And then starting with the 571 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,760 Browns, one team after another came out like he's our wide 572 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,040 receiver one. I mean either directly or just 573 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,880 and the scenes they were all saying that. 574 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,440 So damn. I mean, he's the one O 1 I think 575 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,840 I want. I want him to be the first 576 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,240 overall pick. In the actual draft. 577 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,600 Yes. Yeah, He, I, I mean, Karina's 578 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,960 talked about this before, though, is that if you're AGM 579 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320 who takes him, you better be really confident in your job 580 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,000 because either like being an OK wide receiver and an OK 581 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,400 cornerback fired. Being being a really good corner 582 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,320 but not playing any at all at wide receiver, fired, Being a 583 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,280 pretty good wide receiver but not a great wide receiver, no 584 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,520 cornerback fired. There's a lot of scenarios where 585 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,480 you get fired. Here's the thing, if you're 586 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,760 drafting Travis Hunter, you better have your strength and 587 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,480 conditioning team like locked down. 588 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,320 Like they better be the best, the best thing going because 589 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,560 like the second you put him in for like a little slot route and 590 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,080 he pulls a hand, me fired. Yeah, he's so, he's so 591 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,080 interesting. No one plays two ways in the 592 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440 NFL. You know, it's it's, it's going 593 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,240 to be. He he is basically the same size 594 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,080 as Justin Jefferson, 6 lbs lighter, half an inch shorter 595 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,080 than Justin Jefferson. We get him on an inversion table 596 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,800 and we introduce him to Shake Shack and we've got him at we've 597 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,480 got him at 198 six. You have him looking like Debo 598 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,160 Samuel if you're not careful. Come on. 599 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,200 We should, we should, we should talk about Debo. 600 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960 I can't wait to see how we will. I can't wait to see how the 601 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040 Hunter stuff goes. I still like him to 602 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,040 Jacksonville. I mean those are not coach GM 603 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,040 that have like a lot of traction but 5 to one unless they think 604 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,760 they can get them at 5:00. I don't know if new. 605 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,720 England. Is right, but. 606 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,240 The the new. GMs generally get at least two 607 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,080 years. You, you don't see the one and 608 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,400 done GM all that long. So maybe this guy's got a little 609 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,400 bit of security. He's like, OK, we'll, we'll try 610 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,880 it out and, and whatever team takes Hunter, the fans are going 611 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,120 to be stoked. Oh yeah, maybe, maybe not like 612 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,720 the first like six months, like the offseason, like the first 613 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,080 time, like the first preseason game, you line him up in the 614 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,080 slot and you just throw a screen to him. 615 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,240 Fans are going nuts in the preseason game. 616 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,960 They're like, yeah. And then and then the team and 617 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,240 then the team punts and Travis Hunter comes back out onto the 618 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,960 field. He he, he walks back out first 619 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,320 and 10 on defense. He's he's hyping the crowd up at 620 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,560 a preseason game. I mean, I'm telling you that 621 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,760 that moment, that moment will be that moment will be as big as 622 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,400 when Mahomes threw the behind the back pass to Kelsey in the 623 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,680 preseason game. People, people will be that 624 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,200 stoked about it. It's just such a bad team stuff, 625 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,640 you know, you, we don't have a quarterback. 626 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,160 We have no hopes of getting one. But like Windhorst, maybe if you 627 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,640 don't have a quarterback and you don't like these guys, you just 628 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,120 take Hunter and you give, I mean, that guy's going to sell 629 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,120 jerseys that that dude's selling jerseys. 630 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,080 What? What number did he wear in 631 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,480 college? You get if you're the Browns, 632 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,280 like I know that the Browns might take a quarterback to get 633 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,080 the Deshaun Watson stink gone, but like this, this would 634 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,480 actually get rid of some of the stink. 635 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,360 You know, this, this is a guy that people are going to be 636 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,600 excited about is and is legitimately one of the funnest 637 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,240 players we've ever seen come out of college. 638 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,480 Play that play in both ways. Just make that your identity for 639 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,560 the next couple years until, well, you can get out from 640 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,480 under. We don't need to go, we don't 641 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,760 need to go 10 more rounds on this, but the Browns should 642 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,960 embrace the stink. Like just, you know, whether 643 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,280 that's Ward or just just embrace it, live with it for another 644 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,000 year. I think they are. 645 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,760 I came away feeling pretty good about the Browns taking Ward. 646 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,360 OK. If Travis? 647 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280 The Giants could trade up that that is, that is still possible. 648 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,240 That was a that was a rumor that if they're not able to get 649 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,440 Rogers, that they really are just like sick of being in 650 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:57,120 quarterback wasteland. Wow, if Travis underwears #0 I 651 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,800 think I'd buy, I'd buy a #0 to the old Jaguars Hunter jersey. 652 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:08,360 I mean, that is just that's that zero or one zero or one. 653 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,200 I'm. Like, OK, yeah, yeah, yeah, I 654 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:18,120 think the the thing about all right, I mean, like, I know Joe 655 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,240 Shane had a rough go of it on Hard Knocks and everything. 656 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,560 I don't want to pile on. But like, if you're trying to 657 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,160 negotiate with a team to go up for the number one pick, don't 658 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120 let it come out that you're interested in Aaron Rodgers, 659 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,640 right? That's nothing, nothing more 660 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,520 desperate. You know, immediately like, oh, 661 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,480 these guys will pay anything They're willing to bring in 662 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,600 Aaron Rodgers, their quarterback. 663 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,080 Not not the best negotiating strategy by by the Giants there. 664 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,560 And the Stafford thing really sounded good for them. 665 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,840 And that doesn't happen. Or Aaron Rodgers, just gross. 666 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,160 I don't know. I don't know if there's an 667 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,400 escape hatch for the Giants guys they got. 668 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,600 You, the Raiders and the and the Giants got used. 669 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,640 I mean, that was all just there was a little spat, a little spat 670 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,800 between the Rams and Stafford there. 671 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,280 If the Giants sign Aaron Rodgers, I mean that is truly, 672 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,560 truly that has got to be the worst franchise direction making 673 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,159 decision I can personally remember. 674 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,000 Yeah. He's got he's got nothing left 675 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,960 the The Jets roster so much better than the giants roster as 676 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,719 currently constructed so much better and and they were 677 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,440 hopeless. They were eliminated from 678 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,199 playoff contention in week 12. Well, he's. 679 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,679 Going to bring Adams Davis, you consider that, no? 680 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,920 I'd rather play Wandale honestly. 681 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,920 Imagine you're a Giants fan and it's been like this just 682 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,880 pathetic existence for 10 years, but at least you're not The 683 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,320 Jets. And then what are we doing this 684 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,199 year? We're going to just be The Jets. 685 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,760 I mean, just the Giants fans looked out, you know, Pat, 686 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,360 Giants fans looked down on Jets fans like we're up here, you're 687 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,880 down here, Yankees and Mets, like we're the we're the Big 688 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200 Brother. And now we're just going to be. 689 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,200 But that worked so well that we're just going to do that and 690 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,000 have our coach get fired at mid season again, like the Jet. 691 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,120 Just we're just going to copy that, that that would be like 692 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,400 the lowest, you know? I don't see how you can do. 693 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,760 You can't do the Rodgers thing if you're the Giants. 694 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,840 It just doesn't make sense. I think maybe the Steelers could 695 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,920 do it. Steelers could do it, because 696 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,840 what's the difference between Russell Wilson and Aaron 697 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,880 Rodgers? And Tomlin's not it's it's like 698 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,360 Smith probably gets fired, not Tomlin. 699 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,160 Once it all goes to hell, you know, I mean, Smith kind of gets 700 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,800 semi fired from the get go because Nathaniel Hackett comes 701 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,240 in as an offensive assistant and starts running the offense 702 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,000 pretty quickly. So yeah, I mean, I think but 703 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,960 yeah, the the Giants, you just can't be messed with it. 704 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,520 The Giants got a trade up for Ward. 705 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,920 The Giant Ward has a ceiling. I think Ward is really risky, 706 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,440 but he has a ceiling and ceiling's all that matters for 707 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,200 the for the for this administration. 708 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,400 Like you guys are going to be fired Most like like the vast 709 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:06,200 majority of outcomes ends with Shane and dayball out at the end 710 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,560 of this season. And so like just only focus on 711 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,640 the part of the distribution where you're not fired. 712 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,880 Like who gives you the most not fired outs? 713 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,000 Ward is is probably, you know, he's he's probably your best bet 714 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160 at this point to just like, not get fired. 715 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,120 Bad enough three years ago to copy to go be Buffalo. 716 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,840 We'll just take Buffalo's guys, you know? 717 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,240 But we also look down on them and then this is where we're at. 718 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:30,480 So we're just going to beat The Jets. 719 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,120 Pretty sad. We have we have it's pretty 720 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,280 dark. We have slides. 721 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaking of dark, our first slide today brought to you by 722 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,000 Zach Lanars. Appreciate. 723 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,680 Oh. Why? 724 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,920 Why did I wait to to bring these up? 725 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,080 Wait, these are the wrong slides. 726 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,880 This is last week. That's last week. 727 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,680 This is last week. That's one reason I broke. 728 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,760 OK, let me get those up. Let me get the right ones up. 729 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,240 I don't know. Did you have a reason for 730 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,880 waiting? Yeah, yeah, I did. 731 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,040 I had a real reason, stepped on my own joke because I've had the 732 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,120 wrong slides up. But no pun intended. 733 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,480 This is the reason I I waited, Mike insisted. 734 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,120 We included. This picture, I mean, it's a 735 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,120 pretty important picture. It's a pretty important picture 736 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,680 because without the context of what happened to Gunner Helm's 737 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,400 ankle, you would think that he is like the least draftable 738 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,560 tight end of all time. Now so his running style was 739 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:32,480 crazy like his like he he's like all arms out I, I, I I'll try to 740 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,080 find a clip of it so people can see, but he's. 741 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,200 I mean who looks worse, him or Fannon? 742 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,120 He he looked way worse than Fannon. 743 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,080 Fannon looks Fannon's duck footed and has a really weird 744 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,800 running style. But this guy, I mean, he looked 745 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,480 like a guy like a like a, it's like a college like relay race, 746 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,080 like, you know, they're, they're out there like with the water 747 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,640 balloons, like a field day, Like they're like, oh, I don't know 748 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,960 if this guy's ever run. What is going on? 749 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,720 Yeah, it's, it's like upper body lean, kind of lot of arm work. 750 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,520 Now. Is that attributable to the 751 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,120 ankle sprain? Because I was really kind of 752 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,360 blown away by by his running style. 753 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,320 Well I was out with some friends and the combine was on. 754 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,560 And just shout out to my buddy Jesse, who immediately said he's 755 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,520 hurt and we kind of all went well. 756 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,160 Why is he going to run again? He must not be hurt that badly. 757 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,000 But like, no, I don't care. He's hurt. 758 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,400 He saw it immediately. And so I don't know, is this is 759 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,960 this bad content? Do I have a lot to learn? 760 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,120 Like the foot would have been worse for our numbers today had 761 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,880 that been on the the thumbnail than the like the random college 762 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,760 guys that we've talked about. I don't know. 763 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,440 I kind of like the foot for sure. 764 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,000 I. Don't know the foot. 765 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,400 I give up. Why is the foot so it's not 766 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,040 provocative enough. I mean, just the foot. 767 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,720 All right, I. Mean it's certainly provocative. 768 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,800 I I don't, it doesn't make me. It doesn't. 769 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,280 I'm not watching this show. I'm not watching this if there's 770 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,880 a foot. Can't watch the foot? 771 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,120 Can't watch the foot. What am I gonna I got here's 772 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,760 this is an hour and a half of my life. 773 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,880 Here's the Here's the real question, though. 774 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,440 Are NFL teams gonna basically give him a pass for this? 775 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,680 Because. They might. 776 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,160 The the rumors were that he would be. 777 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,760 I mean he was like a very common second round pick projection. 778 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,520 And that never made sense to me. I mean, he, he was like OK for 779 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,760 one year. This is Gunner Helm, if we 780 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,120 haven't said so by the. Way. 781 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,200 I mean it does. It does if. 782 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,040 You all right, we got to watch this and and maybe it's the 783 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,080 ankle, maybe it's the ankle, but I mean, what's going on? 784 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,280 What's going on? Hang on. 785 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,040 Are you taking a step forward here? 786 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,600 Yeah. He's going to, he's going to 787 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,400 share the he's going to share the 40. 788 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,160 I'm going to share the helm. You guys see this? 789 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,640 Where is it? Here we go. 790 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,440 Here's the Here's Gunner Helm's 40. 791 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,160 What would Rex Ryan grade Helm's foot? 792 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:57,000 This this is the first one. This is where he when he gets 793 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,920 hurt. Is this when he gets hurt? 794 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:05,200 OK, a lot of arm work. I mean you can see it happens 795 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,080 right away, literally happens on the 1st. 796 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:08,840 Step so he's so he's just in pain. 797 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,960 OK, all right. Well then that would explain 798 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,040 because I was just what is. Going on, I mean, you could see 799 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,120 it. You could see it on his face. 800 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,040 He's just like, fuck. He's just OK. 801 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,840 All right. Well, apologies to Gunnar then 802 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,840 for. I think, I think he could get a 803 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,600 pass. It's a fun tight end year. 804 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,000 There's going to be a lot of thirst for some of these guys. 805 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,920 So I don't know. He'll have a pro day. 806 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,280 He'll probably be fine by then. He can put it all to bed. 807 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,520 There's there's a lot of thirst for Mason Taylor and Elijah 808 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,680 Arroyo, who you know. Don't those guys make more sense 809 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,920 to me? I mean, Arroyo's like. 810 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,360 Those guys, those guys said he got hurt before he he got a he 811 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,920 got he the the one before he had a false start, hurt it and then 812 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,760 ran it anyway. Fine, the point is he was 813 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,000 already. Injured, he was already. 814 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,600 Hurt he was. Already hurt. 815 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,840 OK, all right. Well, that would explain. 816 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,000 Same thing. Some of them same thing. 817 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:07,720 The form there, well, I I think, yeah, I mean, I think Taylor and 818 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,720 Arroyo make sense as as like real life NFL picks. 819 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:15,120 And I probably wouldn't be taking Arroyo probably to like 820 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,600 round 3, but because he's he's very much just like a bet on 821 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,920 traits and not really any production to back it up. 822 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:28,040 But the point that I wanted to make was that Gunner Helm had 823 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,480 more receptions than Golden than Bond, actually more receptions 824 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,760 than Bond and Silas Bolden combined. 825 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,240 And and Bolden at the start of the year was thought of as a 826 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,920 draftable guy. He he probably won't end up 827 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,520 being, I mean, he led that Texas team in receptions. 828 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,160 But isn't he kind of he's like a college K dot in or something. 829 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,360 He's not. He didn't. 830 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,080 He wasn't adding a ton to the. Off but if but if but if some 831 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,240 team thinks he's a really good blocker and he's like AK Dotton 832 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,160 style. And I'm again, I'm not that deep 833 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,960 in the weeds. I the only reason I liked gunner 834 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,840 helm was I was like, well, this guy could be, you know how 835 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,840 there's a tight end you've never heard of who goes 61st overall 836 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,200 every year? Like he gets taken and you're 837 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:16,000 like, wait, who is Luke Farrell? What what you're, you're, you're 838 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,640 like I live. That guy's not even in my 839 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,560 database and the Jaguars just took him at 61. 840 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,760 What is going on? So Gunner Helm could definitely 841 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,080 be that guy, except I would have heard of him this year that. 842 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,480 Was kind of the Luke Schoonmaker was was kind of that guy. 843 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,240 Yes, exactly the two. The patrons took the two. 844 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,440 The patrons took in the same year. 845 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,360 Yeah, Devin Osiasi. Don't eat. 846 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,080 And yeah. 100%. Yes. 847 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,240 Who was the guy the Chargers took? 848 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,400 He was more of a block. Trey Mckitty. 849 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,400 Trey Mckitty. Yeah, Trey. 850 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,520 Mckitty, yeah, he was huge though. 851 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,720 He he was like 6-6. Yeah, he was like a right 852 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,280 tackle. He's not the all time Trey Mick 853 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,600 tight end anymore. I know you can't. 854 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,040 You can't even be the best Trey Mick. 855 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,600 That's. And as as Mr. Mountain Man 856 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,160 points out, very cool name cannot disrespect the cool name 857 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,640 corollary. Well, look, I mean Gunner Helm. 858 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,240 Gunner Helm is the starting tight end on the Jaguars in 859 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,000 2027. I'm in. 860 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,720 I don't care. Like you're telling me like 17th 861 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:18,440 rounds, he's the starter. Like, yeah, I, I don't have a 862 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,920 lot of interest in in him is like he's going to come and and 863 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,440 like, establish himself year 1 and make, you know, a big impact 864 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,200 as a rookie. He's not really on my radar that 865 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,400 way. But all of these guys like you, 866 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,160 you win out, you get a job. I, I won't disrespect you. 867 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,960 I will. I will draft you as a starter at 868 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,720 the end of at the end of baseball drafts and see what you 869 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:42,120 have he's going to get. Better. 870 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,320 He's going to get better. NFL media are going to be 871 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,760 lauding him for his courage and he's going to be the comeback 872 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,880 player of the year in the NFL in 2025. 873 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,640 First rookie ever to win. First comeback player of the 874 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,240 year coming back from an ankle sprain before the 40s at the 875 00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:01,040 combine. We've got slides, so the order 876 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,640 has running backs first just looking at the field. 877 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:05,360 Thank you again to Zach and everybody. 878 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,640 Appreciate everybody's participation in the ankle 879 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,560 image. All right, running back combine 880 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,280 results. Real quick, real quick, just 881 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,360 just to I, I got a shout out the chat just how sick the chat is. 882 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,800 I, I, I just picked the Jaguars at random. 883 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,000 And of course it's like Britain's strange erasure. 884 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,400 You know people are upset not at Ingram, but at their current 885 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,400 backup type in. I love it. 886 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,200 Brenton Brenton Strange hive is real, dude, You, you cannot, you 887 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,320 cannot piss off the Brenton Strange hive. 888 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,120 They're they're out there and they're very serious. 889 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,360 You get a job, I won't disrespect you. 890 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,360 Sounds like my dad after I graduate. 891 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,880 That's true. I well, I've got a daughter now. 892 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,520 I'm getting some the dad energies coming in. 893 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,320 Running back Hero of the Weekend Tooten. 894 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,000 Tooten is the guy who is like, OK, you went from day three to 895 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,600 day 2. But for our game, probably the 896 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,080 most impactful was Judkins, where it. 897 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,560 Went Hampton. Hampton. 898 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,360 Yep. Hampton to me, Hampton was more 899 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,040 like he kind of did what I expected. 900 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,280 But Caleb Johnson showing so poorly was was big for Hampton 901 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,320 is kind of how I feel. But. 902 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,080 Hampton, Yeah. I think, you know, Hampton had 903 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,440 gotten a lot of like early on, I was seeing Hampton as the RB2, 904 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,040 but he's a round two guy. And then people were like, I 905 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,720 like Trayvon Henderson maybe to go round one. 906 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:31,040 I like Caleb Johnson maybe to go round one, but I wasn't hearing 907 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,600 a lot about that from Hampton. And then right before the 908 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,160 combine, I feel like, you know, like Todd Mcshee started to come 909 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,120 around and be like, I really like Hampton. 910 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,000 I think he could go round one and he was mocked round one. 911 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,040 I think of Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft right before the 912 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,720 combine too. So we're starting to get like, 913 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,760 OK, Hampton really isn't. My concern was that the fantasy 914 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,920 community was really high on him, but the NFL is a little 915 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,680 less high. And then we started to get maybe 916 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,000 the some signs that that wasn't the case, that he was in first 917 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,280 round consideration. And this makes him, I think very 918 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,560 much in first round consideration. 919 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:12,240 So I do think maybe, you know, maybe it's not a shock that he's 920 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,880 super athletic, but this was an important part of the process 921 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,120 for him to kind of shore up that that potential. 922 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,280 Judkins, though, it was a big combine for Judkins. 923 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,720 I've I've been into Judkins. I didn't really see him that 924 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:29,680 differently from Hampton and Johnson this whole time. 925 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,040 His profile's pretty similar. I think it just because he's 926 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,680 like a. Slight cut above, but. 927 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,840 His his best season came as a true freshman, which is just 928 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,880 always weirds me out. You you want you want like I 929 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,360 want what happened to Tooton whereby like the end of of two, 930 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,120 it's 210. Isn't that weird? 931 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,880 Look, it should be 210. It's 2:10. 932 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:52,960 It's 2:10. Yeah. 933 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,400 So you know who actually told me this? 934 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,200 You will literally never believe the guy who told me this 935 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,200 information. Soccer, Dave. 936 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,680 Soccer Dave. Same same archetype. 937 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,120 Same archetype. He'll change it, don't worry. 938 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:13,560 Once he gets grabbed, he went. He'll move forward, rebrand. 939 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,840 I want what happens to 210 where by the end of 210's college 940 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,400 career his team was like literally any play you don't get 941 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,200 the ball is a losing play. Like I just his dominator rating 942 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,760 his final year at Virginia Tech, 94% of the backfield touches. 943 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,840 And and he was on special teams too. 944 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,440 I think he's a returner. Yeah, Virginia. 945 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,280 Virginia Tech. What does he weigh? 946 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,520 Two O 6. We got to change that, get that 947 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,520 up to 210. I mean, he's 210. 948 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:46,080 Yeah, you got to. You got to weigh in at 210. 949 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,680 Come on man, you're so close. Now another guy that's pretty 950 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,760 interesting here, Mcshea puts out his big board. 951 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,800 He's got Jordan James at like 68 or whatever. 952 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,200 So all the everyone's like, oh, dude got to get Jordan James. 953 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,320 He's he's top, he's top 70 and the big board got to take him. 954 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,480 And then he he rasped pretty poorly. 955 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,480 I don't know that the Ras is going to matter that much 956 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:15,040 because he's like, so his profile for fantasy has always 957 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,520 been super shaky. Lowest, lowest breakaway 958 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,760 percentage of any running back that I have in my database. 959 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,320 It's like it's, I think it's like 27 percent or something. 960 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,320 Like he's got no long speed. So I, I mean, I, I did not 961 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,920 expect him to test well, but he has a really high success rate. 962 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,240 And I think when tape people are just like, I can trust this guy. 963 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,560 I, I think, you know, he's that kind of runner. 964 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,920 He's going to get what's there. So it's always been a draft 965 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,960 capital bet. I don't know that this 966 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,400 necessarily crushes his. It's, it's like a bet on the 967 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,880 tape, right? And, and our NFL team's going to 968 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,280 bet on the tape here. It sounded like they were pretty 969 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,320 willing to, we'll have to see what the reaction is coming out. 970 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,440 But I'm, I don't the Jordan James has never been like a 971 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,520 statistical case. He's he's like, you know, he's 972 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,680 fine, but it's all about kind of draft capital. 973 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,280 This killers draft capital would be my question. 974 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,480 I'm not sure it does, because the tape is really what's been. 975 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,160 It's just crazy. I'm like in this running back 976 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,160 class with all these guys. Why Jordan James? 977 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,160 I'd rather Brashard Smith any day of the week. 978 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,680 Me too, me too. I mean, a bunch of these guys. 979 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,800 I mean dude, I think DJ Giddens is really interesting. 980 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,040 Giddens, Giddens, I think you you combine with the tape. 981 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,960 I'm like, oh man, I think he might. 982 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,160 He looks good to me. I think he might be a third 983 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,160 round pick now in the NFL draft. Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, he was 984 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,520 a big winner. Devin Devin Neal, big loser, 985 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,760 just couldn't. Couldn't run. 986 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,720 Couldn't run in the four fours. I don't know that he's a big 987 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,800 loser at he I. So he was a little bit lighter. 988 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,360 He's I think 2:16 at the combine. 989 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:57,160 He's 2:20 at the Senior Bowl. And then he wasn't fast, but no 990 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,880 one expected him to be very fast. 991 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,960 He's, he's more of a tape guy, too. 992 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:02,400 Yeah. It's just that I haven't heard 993 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,120 as much love for him from scouts and stuff or, you know, like 994 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:08,200 film evaluators, as I as I hoped. 995 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,800 So, yeah. He's, you know, another big 996 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,400 loser honestly, is Scatabo. Oh, he's the biggest loser of 997 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,040 the whole. Yeah. 998 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,640 Whole. To not run like you have to, you 999 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,800 have to run if he ran a 463 I think. 1000 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,480 That's what everyone thought he was going to run. 1001 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:32,000 Right, so to not. Run to not run is you're like 1002 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,320 buddy 48 is in the range of outcomes for. 1003 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,680 Yeah, man. Yeah. 1004 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,720 It's it's bad. I I think he he really needed to 1005 00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:42,880 like just there's some fears with him. 1006 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,920 You know, like you. It's like, is this guy athletic 1007 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,640 enough to be more than like a full back? 1008 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,800 And he did not his. His jumps. 1009 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,800 His jumps were good. Is is, did he jump? 1010 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,200 Well, I didn't. I didn't know he jumped. 1011 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,840 Really, really good I think. OK, all right, good. 1012 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,720 I. Believe 39 1/2 vert and 11 foot 1013 00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:00,720 broad. So like, really? 1014 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,480 Oh, all right. Good. 1015 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,800 Next couple of slides. That's got to be 4. 1016 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:07,400 Honestly, Davis, does that make you a little more concerned 1017 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,960 about the 40? Yes, yes, yes, there. 1018 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,520 There's a chance that this guy is Carson Steele, dude. 1019 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,320 Yeah, he's Kadeem Carey would be another guy like a like a really 1020 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,280 good college running back. Couldn't couldn't get he also. 1021 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,760 Went to Arizona State. Look at you too. 1022 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,400 Look at you too. Next couple of slides highlight 1023 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,960 some of the running backs we've talked about. 1024 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,880 The first one would be the, you know, the top guys after Gente 1025 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:44,240 who didn't this weekend, but Hampton, Henderson, Caleb 1026 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:49,800 Johnson and Judkins. So what's actionable? 1027 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,480 I guess like it's, it's always inside out, right? 1028 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,320 The guys that perform well, new hype that pushes them up and 1029 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,200 maybe we are happy we drafted them already. 1030 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,360 So we do something else this next time. 1031 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,200 I moved Judkins up and Caleb Johnson down. 1032 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,560 Yeah, that at the the next couple slides on the running 1033 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,560 backs. Oh, sorry, my bad. 1034 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,880 Yeah, I, I moved Judkins up a bit, Johnson down. 1035 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,600 Henderson we've been high on for a while. 1036 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,080 Hampton we've been high on for a while. 1037 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,760 Cale Johnson kind of I, I actually lowered heading into 1038 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,760 the combine. So for about a week we've been a 1039 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:40,400 little bit bearish on him. As I dug more into his receiving 1040 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:46,080 profile, I started to feel like it's a fragile bet where it's 1041 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,680 like it is. The exciting thing is like this 1042 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,640 guy could be the lead running back on the Vikings, the Bears, 1043 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,720 you know, any of these teams taking this guy in the second 1044 00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:57,320 round, install him as a day one starter and he can carry the 1045 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,320 load. He's a really good runner. 1046 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,080 But I started looking more into his like into some of the 1047 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,600 peripherals a little bit more and it's like, man, OK, the 1048 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,680 receiving stuff really is concerning as far like he could 1049 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,560 just be a straight up two down guy and then he's like a bit of 1050 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,800 a boom bust runner. Like his success rate was really 1051 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,920 low and low in all three of his seasons. 1052 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:24,240 And so it's it's kind of Ken Walker E now Walker's been 1053 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,960 especially early on was like a fairly solid hit, but he also 1054 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,960 kind of was in the best case scenario where a team just 1055 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,240 installed him right away as a starter. 1056 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:34,880 So. And you don't know if he can 1057 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,680 catch the ball. Yeah, he's probably he's 1058 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:44,560 probably just kind of an early down guy and then he's not fast. 1059 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,920 So Walker has has a lot more speed. 1060 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,000 So it's all just starting to be a little dependent on the 1061 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,160 situation in the draft capital materializing, which where he's 1062 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,880 going in drafts. You have you have a lot to lose 1063 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,560 there. If that doesn't happen, you 1064 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,440 know, if, if he ends up being the Zach Charbonnet and and kind 1065 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,000 of being a backup to start his career, you've wasted a lot of 1066 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,760 draft capital. So I I I moved him down. 1067 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,320 And then I think this combine performance is kind of only only 1068 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,400 backs that that up. Judkins, by the way, Judkins is 1069 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,480 a little bit of a pass catcher. Like he's he's not like, you 1070 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,520 know, pass catching specialist, but but he's a a guy where I 1071 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,120 think more likely than Johnson to just be kind of left out 1072 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,000 there all the time and be be a backfield. 1073 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,320 So is that his, is that his touchdown right before the half 1074 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,480 on a on a reception against Texas or was that yeah, that in 1075 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,000 the in the playoffs? And he was used, he was used 1076 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,320 against Notre Dame as a receiver. 1077 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,560 I mean, he, he looks pretty natural to me as a receiver. 1078 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,640 And the numbers, you know, there's kind of like different 1079 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,080 tiers of college receivers. There's like the Uber Christian 1080 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,560 McCaffrey level tier, you know, and Alvin Camaro where you're 1081 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,760 just like these guys are going the absolutely insane in terms 1082 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,400 of the efficiency. And then you've got like the 1083 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,160 totally can do it and and probably gonna do it pretty 1084 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,240 well, like in the James Cook type of tier. 1085 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,240 And then there's a big group of guys who are like, they look 1086 00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:14,560 fine if a team uses them, kind of like Breece Hall, Ezekiel 1087 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,720 Elliott, like that group. Well, you know who the. 1088 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,200 That group? You know who? 1089 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,560 The the comp is for Caleb Johnson. 1090 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,840 When it became clear he was an NFL prospect, they, they just 1091 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,560 started calling passing plays for him just so teams could see 1092 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,200 him do it. You know who else did that? 1093 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,840 Braylon Allen. Like I think he had like 7 1094 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,480 receptions his first two seasons and they were like, Oh well you 1095 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:39,880 know, we want him to get drafted. 1096 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,000 We, we care about this guy. We want him to go. 1097 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,080 We, we threw him the ball 30 times his final year. 1098 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,280 He was good at it. Now Braylon Allen just didn't 1099 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,480 test that. The comp, remember, he didn't 1100 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,640 test the combat. Yeah, because I think probably 1101 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,880 things would not have been great for him. 1102 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,560 But Caleb Johnson, what's funny is these numbers are actually 1103 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,680 not bad. Like in the whole world of 1104 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,280 running backs, it's like fine to be 225 and run a four or five. 1105 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,080 Yeah, Yeah, yeah, right. It's just, it's just relative to 1106 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,200 these other guys. I could see someone being like, 1107 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,360 you know what, we're still going to spend the 57th pick on Caleb 1108 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,000 Johnson. Me too. 1109 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,600 By the way, it was Henderson, not not Judkins who had the 75 1110 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:22,720 yard touchdown pass. Yeah. 1111 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,520 That was that was. But Judkins had a nice reception 1112 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,040 and against Notre Dame for a touchdown where he was like, 1113 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:33,440 actually like, downfield, Yeah. Next we've got. 1114 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,840 We haven't talked about Henderson. 1115 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,200 Do do we want to say anything about him? 1116 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:37,440 I thought he'd actually be faster. 1117 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,360 I thought he was going to be in the four threes, like just 1118 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,680 watching. Him small loser, I think just 1119 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,080 not being. Tiny, tiny loser. 1120 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:43,880 Yeah. Just not. 1121 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,720 Not totally differentiating himself from Judkins, I thought. 1122 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,080 Yeah, but I still think he's live to go round one. 1123 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,760 I think this is better for Judkins than it was worse for 1124 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,440 Henderson. I think Judkins there was like 1125 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,640 AI was seeing him sometimes like not included in round two and 1126 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,040 like maybe he gets lost in the shuffle and it's kind of like a 1127 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,120 mid to late day three or sorry, mid to late round three guy. 1128 00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:10,800 I don't think that happens now. I I think if he goes round 1129 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,400 three, it'll be early and there's teams early in in the 1130 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,120 draft who who need like a guy that can install right away as a 1131 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,920 starter. So he's the Raiders round three 1132 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,280 pick and they haven't taken a running back or signed anyone 1133 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,560 really in free agency. I think we're pretty psyched 1134 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:25,960 about. Yeah. 1135 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,760 So it's like, I think he's he's at least locked himself into 1136 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,280 like that range is like the the, you know, probable low end. 1137 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,200 Is there any way I could just draft the Raiders third round 1138 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,520 pick, running back or whatever, not knowing whoever that is next 1139 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,120 group we've talked. About that would go high. 1140 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,760 That would do well. We've talked about 210 and 1141 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,720 Scataboo. Also, for a minute I didn't know 1142 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,960 the name Raheem Sanders before the weekend. 1143 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,120 Rocket Sanders. Rocket Sanders. 1144 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,000 Yeah. He's just one of the like, he'd 1145 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,000 been 1 of this group of guys you can mix in right at the end of 1146 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,400 drafts. He actually has a little bit of 1147 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,280 receiving juice. So do you like Davis? 1148 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,160 Do you think this actually changes his his draft capital 1149 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,400 outlook? Because he looked like a day 1150 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,800 three guy pretty clearly. I think he's still a day three 1151 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,840 guy because I think there's enough like for example, like if 1152 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,840 you just want to take the toolsy guy in round three, you'd rather 1153 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,960 take 210. If you want to go the production 1154 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,920 route, you'd rather have Devin Neal. 1155 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,120 You'd you'd even rather have Giddens as like, more productive 1156 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,600 players. If you don't care about the the 1157 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,600 workout stuff at all, you take scataboo, right? 1158 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,160 Well, the thing I mean, I dude, I didn't realize that scataboo 1159 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,560 had a 39 1/2 inch vertical that's. 1160 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,000 Nuts. It's nuts, yeah. 1161 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,960 How did how did he not run? If you've got that kind of vert, 1162 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,400 how are you not at least getting in the four low 4 sixes? 1163 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,960 I mean, you see this happen with, you don't see this happen 1164 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,080 much with running backs. You see it more with wide 1165 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,760 receivers where they run the really middling or maybe even 1166 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,960 shitty 40, but they have like really good. 1167 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,320 Tes Johnson. Tes Johnson did did the crazy. 1168 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,600 Tes tes Johnson is I I I just need people to stop talking 1169 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:19,960 about this guy. 154 lbs and got out out like sunned by Troy 1170 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,640 Franklin who is the wide receiver 4 on the Broncos. 1171 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,680 Like just can we just enough, enough of the Tess Johnson guys. 1172 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,800 Sounds like we should move to the next the next. 1173 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,040 This is wide receiver could be built in a lab to to tell you 1174 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:39,800 more than than Tess Johnson. He's a slow 154 LB receiver. 1175 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,760 And he's not even a short king either. 1176 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,800 I think he's like 5-10 too. That's true. 1177 00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,520 It's it's just like, what is the point of Tess? 1178 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,440 Tess Johnson? To give you guys an idea of how 1179 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,640 shitty of a prospect Tess Johnson is, he is quite 1180 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,800 literally Bo Nix's brother. That's not a joke. 1181 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,000 He is literally Bo Nicks, his adopted brother. 1182 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,440 And he was like, you know what? Troy Franklin's my guy. 1183 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:11,080 Yeah, that's not great. But Davis 6653 Cone, are you 1184 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,640 back in? If if you're if you're back in 1185 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,240 on him, you better be drafting the absolute shit out of Harold 1186 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,520 Fannon who somehow did a 6.873. Cone dude, I'm in on, I'm in on 1187 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,280 fannon fannon people. People don't realize I think a 1188 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:29,800 95th percentile 10 yard split. The 40 wasn't great but the 10 1189 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,680 yard split was fine. 47140 but elite 10 yard split. 1190 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,080 I'm I'm still in on fanning next line are we good? 1191 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,560 Here we go. Yeah, wide receivers IO menor 1192 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,520 pretty good. Huge, huge, huge. 1193 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:48,440 Winner, Huge, huge winner. Another guy, massive hands and 1194 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,920 he's like one of these guys who wins is like a big downfield 1195 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,120 receiver. If you and I, dude, I don't 1196 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,040 know, I didn't really like see it with him. 1197 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,800 I was like, all I'm hearing is that he's big, you know, like 1198 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,840 what? It's not he's not exciting. 1199 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,080 You know what you worry about with the big guys? 1200 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,720 The the 458 is lurking there. Yeah, man, yeah, but but four 1201 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,880 fours speed or in the four fours. 1202 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,200 I mean he is big and but he's athletic too. 1203 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,440 So I don't know. I mean, this profile is a is 1204 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,320 kind of a boom bust profile, but it's I think he was a draft 1205 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:29,480 capital now. He was a huge riser when I, I, I 1206 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:34,600 did AI did a full rework on my ranks yesterday and he was one 1207 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,640 of my biggest risers. Now a guy I've been taking a lot 1208 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:42,000 already was Jayla Noel. I've, I viewed him as kind of 1209 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,640 like arbitrage. Imek Ibuka, like comes in right 1210 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,800 away, has a role. It's just kind of a competent 1211 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,400 NFL wide receiver. I think this combine put him in 1212 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:58,760 some team, might take him at 42, just be like we it's a bad wide 1213 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,080 receiver class, It's a bad free agency class. 1214 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,640 We need a third guy. We don't have a third guy. 1215 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,680 Kind of like this is a bad comp and it's not going to make 1216 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,320 anyone happy about it. But how Jolene Polk just ended 1217 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,280 up going 37 last year despite really liking him. 1218 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,520 But that is kind of what I can imagine happening with Noel. 1219 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:22,840 It's interesting that both of these guys, Noel and Higgins, 1220 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,760 Noel and Higgins are the guys who played together, right? 1221 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,000 Not. Yes, Iowa. 1222 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,800 State, yeah, yeah, yeah, Iowa State, they're both really 1223 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,920 athletic, which is kind of interesting. 1224 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,480 They're I. I was not expecting that at all. 1225 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,720 Especially. Very pleasant surprise, yeah. 1226 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,600 'Cause I, I, I've seen like, I think Harmon's early work on him 1227 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,600 was like that. He's not really much of A that. 1228 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,000 Higgins isn't really a separator. 1229 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,560 Kind of like some David Bell downside potential with Higgins 1230 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,720 I would say. I can't believe you just invoked 1231 01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,160 the name of David Bell brother. This is ship chasing man. 1232 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,600 We got a clip. Yeah. 1233 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,640 Now, Zach, on the graphic here, you noted that Mister Ricky 1234 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,960 White's wrasse was 4.89. First of all, he still might be 1235 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,560 the ship chasing clip, but he probably won't be. 1236 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,880 But the clear, the clear favorite for ship chasing clip 1237 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,280 right now, and I'm not sure there's anyone who's even close 1238 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,520 to him, is Besh Jack Jack. Besh is the clear, clear 1239 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,760 favorite. I don't know, Besh is more of 1240 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,920 like a film guy, I don't think I mean. 1241 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,920 So. So were all the UW guys. 1242 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,520 So were. So were Polk and McMillan. 1243 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,200 Yeah, but. But is the name cool enough? 1244 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,280 Is the name cool enough? Very. 1245 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:42,600 The name is OK Sky Moore. Well. 1246 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,160 Sky Sky 2 wise was about as cool. 1247 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,840 That's about as cool, unfortunately, like sky 2 wise 1248 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,680 for for like an earthbound slot who immediately busts is just 1249 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,920 such a such a waste. Earthbound. 1250 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,600 Yeah. Wow. 1251 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,640 You have the next slide up for a second that has Higgins on it. 1252 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,240 And also I believe that would be Bond. 1253 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,320 I'm going to break the record tomorrow for sure. 1254 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,560 I anticipate running a four, two, possibly 41. 1255 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,840 DEN runs a four, three. The most disappointing 439 in 1256 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:22,880 the world? History. 1257 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,800 The the crowd, the crowd was booing him, which is hilarious. 1258 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,120 Did you? Did you see Xavier Worthy's 1259 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:30,880 tweet? No. 1260 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,760 He said. He said there's fast, then 1261 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:40,680 there's me. I mean, that's pretty bad ass 1262 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,880 because ostensibly these two know each other. 1263 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,120 You know, ostensibly Worthy would have been around the Texas 1264 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,080 facility at some point in the last year. 1265 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,480 And they would have, they would have met. 1266 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,680 And you know, Bond was probably talking shit to him. 1267 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,600 Too. Yeah, like. 1268 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,240 I'm gonna break your. Record and and. 1269 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,200 And Worthy's probably like, yeah, sure you are, buddy, Sure 1270 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,240 you are. I'd like that's a cute that's a 1271 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:04,640 cute little 439 you got there A. Crowd A crowd booing A439 is 1272 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:09,960 that is that. It's like an all time all time 1273 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,040 combine moment. Yeah. 1274 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,520 Well, yeah, I talked. He talked a big game there. 1275 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,960 I talked maybe too big of a game. 1276 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,440 You could say your mouth just mouth wrote a check, your ass 1277 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,440 couldn't cash. Is that the? 1278 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,440 Is that the experiment? Tez Johnson to me, undraftable 1279 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,880 big board and I'm not taking him in. 1280 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,280 I'm not taking him in my dynasty drafts either. 1281 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,880 I don't know, man. I think he could maybe be an OK 1282 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,080 slot receiver. He's 451. 1283 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:43,360 He's got elite agility and jumps, so it's like burst. 1284 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:44,720 You're betting on betting on burst. 1285 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,600 He's not fast and he's time as hell. 1286 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,200 Depending if you're spending fourth round rookie picks this 1287 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,480 year on anyone other than running backs, you are so lost 1288 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,200 and there's like. Yeah, yeah, I I think that's 1289 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,600 fair That that that part of it I do agree with in in best ball. 1290 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,840 Look, the honestly, this isn't even about the big board. 1291 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,040 This is about you not making fun of me if I take Tes Johnson in 1292 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,400 round five of our dynasty best ball. 1293 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,920 Sure, OK, sure. That's that's you that that I 1294 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,240 think is totally fine and would be an overreaction. 1295 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,000 But like, you're taking, you're taking Raheem Sanders over Tes 1296 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,920 Johnson and you're like, not thinking about it. 1297 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,400 Yeah, yeah. No, that's. 1298 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,560 Right. Isn't that, isn't that, by the 1299 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,480 way, always the play, always in rookie drafts is just running 1300 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,760 backs all the way to the end? This this. 1301 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,840 In rookie drafts, there should just be like an unending string 1302 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,800 of running backs that that once we hit like the middle of the 1303 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,720 second, it should just be like. Yeah, like like the wide 1304 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,520 receiver, the wide receiver seven goes. 1305 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,200 Yeah, basically like the wide receiver 8 should be like a free 1306 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,680 agent. Like Jalen Noel should go like, 1307 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,920 like he's gonna go like 41st in the NFL draft and 45th in a 1308 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,240 rookie draft that that's like how it should actually play out. 1309 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,640 A quick look at the tight ends. You mentioned Fannin already. 1310 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:04,120 We talked about Helm and a few other guys are shown here, 1311 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:10,120 Ferguson. Just like the least productive 1312 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,960 guy of all time. But it could, it could work out, 1313 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,360 I guess. And I want to say he's like, 1314 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:21,440 he's over age, too. Yeah. 1500 career receiving 1315 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,480 yards, 16 touchdowns though. I'm still, I'm still in on 1316 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,120 fannin. I mean, first of all, the Ras, 1317 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:33,680 OK, I was, I was going to the Ras site and look, I mean, 1318 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,720 there's lots happening, all these things getting plugged in, 1319 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,440 but I, I looked at the Ras 10 yard split and then it wasn't 1320 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,240 what was reported on the NFL combines official site. 1321 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,640 So you, you change that the rest, the rest gets above 8. 1322 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:54,280 It's not, it's not bad, it's not great, but I don't know, I think 1323 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,600 Hannon was, Bannon was kind of seen as like a, like a loser of 1324 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,520 the combine, but I don't know that he really was. 1325 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,280 Honestly, I think I think yeah, if he ends up being a day two 1326 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,000 pick, then none of this matters. Because The thing is, is you're 1327 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,960 you're only taking him as a day two pick if you basically plan 1328 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,200 on turning him into Bowers. And I don't mean that he's as 1329 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,000 good as Bowers, but I mean, Bowers was like never asked to 1330 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,520 block Bowers. Bowers just like was a slot wide 1331 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,960 receiver. Did you, did you see probably no 1332 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,040 one saw this? Did you see him doing the the 1333 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,439 blocking drills? Fannin. 1334 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,240 He he was blocking like the side of the sled and it was like 1335 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,920 spinning in circles like he was on an ice skating rink. 1336 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,600 Not good, not good. It was quite bad. 1337 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,640 If he's a round three pick, it means some GM is like we are 1338 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,520 throwing that guy the ball and that is it. 1339 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,000 I will say his his like PFF run blocking grade was fine. 1340 01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:53,040 He he's not like he's not a micasicky level like no, no, he 1341 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,359 is just a wide receiver. Like you can't like, ask him to. 1342 01:08:56,359 --> 01:09:00,319 Block. You might at this stage prefer 1343 01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:04,160 him to be a micasicky type though. 1344 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,640 Well, I just mean, I'd like in terms of how big a liability he 1345 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,319 is, like if you're planning to install him as like a 1346 01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:13,680 traditional wide tight end and you're an asthma block all the 1347 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,319 time, that's not going to work. And so I, I agree with you 1348 01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,120 there. But like, if you have him out 1349 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,880 there, like can he be Isaiah likely? 1350 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,200 I think he can be Isaiah Likely. That is the that is the comp 1351 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,560 that everyone was sharing was the was the likely stuff. 1352 01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:31,880 Yeah, I mean, this is the way the league is going, Laporta. 1353 01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:35,200 Like nice of you guys to not mention Kincaid here, but also 1354 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,800 just tight ends as you know. Well, LaPorte is a really good 1355 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,680 blocker. LaPorte is a really good 1356 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,439 blocker. LaPorte was not a good blocker 1357 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,120 in college and I don't think he's a great blocker in in the 1358 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,560 pros. I think, I think he's kind of 1359 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,240 been a bit, it's Ben Johnson Magic a little bit to to use 1360 01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,960 this guy the way that he's. I'm fact checking myself. 1361 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,320 Fact checking. Myself, I know for a fact he was 1362 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,640 not a good blocker in in college because I just was. 1363 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,960 I was looking at the numbers yesterday, Mac Nova says. 1364 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,960 I'm skeptical 20 year old Bowling Green tight end is going 1365 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,600 to matter in redraft and I see different combo. 1366 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,320 You know what he's. He's he's like a very middling 1367 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,760 blocker. So I'm wrong anyway. 1368 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,440 I think the the the someone asked earlier who's the 1369 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:24,120 Bensonaut if Fannon is by far the most likely to be the 1370 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,760 Bensonaut. Except Senate was like, we have 1371 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,200 no one to blame but ourselves because we knew Senate was a 1372 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,560 fullback and he played for a team that ran the power I and he 1373 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,000 just, like, blocked all the time. 1374 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,040 And the quarterback, Avery Johnson, never threw. 1375 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,480 And we were like, yeah, but what if he's actually a tight end 1376 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,400 like there? There's none of that going on 1377 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,120 with Fannin. That's true. 1378 01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:51,800 It's more the teams are like, he played tight end, he was awesome 1379 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,160 at it, but will he be able to do it in the pros? 1380 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,320 Gunner gunner helm is way more likely to just be like, all 1381 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,920 right, this this dude's just blocking like that's all he's 1382 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:04,280 he's he's tip Ryman now. So it was a it's a disrespect to 1383 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,480 ertz too, like his being drafted was. 1384 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,440 Nobody took that seriously. And you know you should have. 1385 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,880 You did. What I more mean is that like 1386 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,920 who's who's going to play like some and just like not matter 1387 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,600 for fantasy at all, and Fannin is pretty high on that list. 1388 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:24,520 The downside is is bad. But Alberto, this dude was 1389 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:29,560 super, super productive, like. Laughably productive. 1390 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,560 Laughably productive. So I, I do think that that 1391 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,640 saying, I don't think he's going to matter. 1392 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,720 I'll I'll like kind of think about him and dynasty, not 1393 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,120 redraft. That to me is discounting his 1394 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,800 ceiling like a guy this productive who is probably going 1395 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,720 to go day 2 on the draft. Like he could really matter at 1396 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,200 with tight end eligibility he could really matter. 1397 01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:52,920 Really now, so, so much depends on where he goes. 1398 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,680 You know, like the Washington point, we're going to look at 1399 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,440 that team's depth chart and decide, you know, blindly what 1400 01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:01,880 we think he might be asked to do. 1401 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,080 So that can be we could be right. 1402 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,640 He's just really boom bust like he could. 1403 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,560 It's going to seem like obvious in retrospect with him. 1404 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,640 Like, you know, this guy, he's like a from a Bowling Green 1405 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,320 tweener. Shocking. 1406 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,960 He didn't do anything or wow the most productive tight end in 1407 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,680 college history was good at catching the balls. 1408 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,520 It's so funny because you could, you could really do, you could 1409 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,520 really do either bit. Like you like the winners will 1410 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,360 be obnoxious. Yes, we know that we know. 1411 01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:34,200 That if if he's a I'll tell you this. 1412 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,240 If he's a fifth round pick to the Saints, I'm gonna forget his 1413 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,880 name. If he's a. 1414 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,880 If he's a third round pick to the. 1415 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,640 Bengals. To The Jets. 1416 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,600 To the Bengals would be unreal. Yeah, 'cause they already do 1417 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,480 that with their tight ends anyways, how they all have 1418 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:50,680 different roles and stuff, so that would even make sense in 1419 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,040 that offense. Bengals draft fan in Round 3 and 1420 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,120 just rescind the tag on T Higgins. 1421 01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,800 We're all set. Sold. 1422 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:07,600 Debo Samuel off to Washington, one of a few old wide receivers 1423 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,040 that have been kind of a puzzle so far this offseason. 1424 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,760 We'll see what happens with Devonte Adams. 1425 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,760 Cooper Cup has that permission to find a trade as well. 1426 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,080 Digs and off the injury and then Keenan Allen here on this 1427 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,680 graphic as well. Pat sort of a an overall 1428 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,480 thought. Let's just start with Debo and 1429 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,920 like how you think that went for him. 1430 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,120 Washington seems pretty good if if we still think he can play. 1431 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,360 I think it's pretty good. You, you know, with Debo like 1432 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:44,000 the ceiling was never going to be super high given, you know, 1433 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:48,120 he's like kind of falling out of favor with the with the guy 1434 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:52,120 who's going to utilize him the most, you know, and they're 1435 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,760 they're starting to have other people emerge. 1436 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,760 You know, they spent a first round pick on Pierce all shows a 1437 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,760 little bit the end of the season. 1438 01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,320 Jawan Jennings looking really solid. 1439 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,000 They obviously paid IU. He's coming off the injury. 1440 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,480 But it's like, how likely was it that Debo was going to stay in 1441 01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:10,760 San Francisco and then actually be like kind of the Debo of old 1442 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:14,280 down the stretch or at any point like it just never looked that 1443 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,800 likely. So the concern for me with Debo 1444 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,760 is more about like the floor. Is he going to find a role where 1445 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,480 we can we can kind of count on him. 1446 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,880 And this is, I mean, if he if he has anything left, like he 1447 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,360 should be able to show it in Washington. 1448 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,480 Like they kind of have to play. Him this this was the number one 1449 01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:34,600 spot you would have chosen for him if you were a Debo Bull. 1450 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,920 There's a ready. Maybe, maybe Houston. 1451 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:38,760 Houston would be the only other spot. 1452 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,240 They don't. They don't run the horizontal 1453 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:41,440 raid. They they're they don't throw 1454 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:44,960 screens. Yeah, I guess, but you know. 1455 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:46,680 Well, it's up. There they didn't have a debo 1456 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,240 they it's. Up there, at least. 1457 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,600 Plus they just changed the OC. Debo Debo is like the final 1458 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,680 evolutionary form of Rondelle Moore. 1459 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,600 You know, he's he's the he's the he's. 1460 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,160 Disrespectful that the he's. He's the Char. 1461 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,680 Well, he's the Charizard, right? To the, to the to the 1462 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,640 Charmander. Of Charmander, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1463 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:09,920 What was I was going to say that? 1464 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,880 Is Charizard the final form? What's the middle form? 1465 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,360 Yes, Charmillion. Charmillion. 1466 01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:20,200 OK, All right, good. I'm glad we gave him the final 1467 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:20,880 form. Who's who's? 1468 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,440 Half who? Who, who? 1469 01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:26,400 Who is if, if? It's if it's. 1470 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,120 If it's a continuum from Rondell to Debo, who's who's the middle? 1471 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,840 Beasley. Might not have this in my. 1472 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,440 Patterson. Cole Beasley. 1473 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,760 Cordero Patterson. Cole Beasley. 1474 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,240 Cole Beasley's, he's like, he's not quite there. 1475 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,600 You need to be a little bit faster. 1476 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,400 Right. It's not, it's not, Cordo 1477 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:51,320 Patterson. I feel like, oh Khalil Shakur, 1478 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,120 that's pretty good. Khalil Shakur as the Charmilion. 1479 01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:57,880 That's pretty good. These guys, OK, OK, I'm just 1480 01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,120 going to nod. Should have been Biscuit. 1481 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,640 About him, I'm in agreement. Here's here's the thing. 1482 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,760 If Debo has anything left and it you can blame some of it on 1483 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,680 pneumonia or whatever, then like this is a. 1484 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,120 Smash Jayden Reid Jayden Reid is the correct answer. 1485 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:16,920 There. There you go. 1486 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:17,720 Thank you. Nice job. 1487 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:18,560 Thank you. Thank. 1488 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,840 You. Jayden Reid So, so let's assume, 1489 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:30,160 let's assume not all of last season was age-related decline. 1490 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,040 Let's say he was, he was injured, he had pneumonia, 1491 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,280 remember he got good again. He had like 2 good games again 1492 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,160 at the end of the year where it looked like maybe he could still 1493 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:44,720 play. Maybe he gets on Ozempic or, or 1494 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,840 is able to lose some rounds or something. 1495 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,560 I I got to say I'm probably a buyer on on Debo. 1496 01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:55,680 It is funny, like, you know, you can almost track the seasons by 1497 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,560 like which part of the body we're focusing on on these 1498 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,240 screenshots. You know, if, if it's if it's 1499 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:04,160 quads, it's summer, baby. We're we're it's it's middle 1500 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,160 summer. You know, we're we're out here, 1501 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,000 we're drinking some margs on the beach. 1502 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,120 If it's a if it's a punch, you know better get that Christmas 1503 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,160 shopping done. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's 1504 01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,880 changed. We we got the Devo punch going. 1505 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,920 Around what if it's a foot with an ankle bruise? 1506 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,680 What is that? If it's a foot then it's then 1507 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,280 it's a combine. Easter is just around the 1508 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:23,960 corner. Can you? 1509 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,200 Can you pull up, can you pull up this comment from Pepper, Tony, 1510 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,240 'cause I think people, people do this and they, they forget what 1511 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:35,680 happens. 2023 Debo Samuel, 1200 scrimmage yards, 12 touchdowns. 1512 01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:40,040 It's it was, that was not four years ago that that actually 1513 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,400 quite literally just happened. It it just, it just happened. 1514 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,040 Well, he, he moves up, right? I mean this is. 1515 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,760 I think he should move up a bit. I don't know, they should move 1516 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,880 up a ton like it's still a boom like a very boom bust. 1517 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,160 And the the problem with him is that it's like it's not maybe 1518 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,160 that boom. It's just kind of like, well, 1519 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,520 products, some production and then maybe bust. 1520 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,720 You know it's. Like it's boom if he scores 15 1521 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,040 touchdowns. It's bust if he scores 7. 1522 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,560 I agree with not that much by the way, because a trade was 1523 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,000 assumed and who's going to trade for him that doesn't have sort 1524 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,080 of a plan like this. So you didn't necessarily know 1525 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,480 if you were to get the nut landing spot, but he was 1526 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,400 probably going? He ducked the Steelers, though. 1527 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,400 Yeah, he ducked the Steelers. Honestly, I think the Patriots 1528 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,800 would have been pretty bad. And they're so desperate. 1529 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,560 Like you could see them doing that, but they but they're so 1530 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,840 desperate that they'd be like, you're a number one Debo, like 1531 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,560 go out there and win is the X, you know, like, oh wow, kind of 1532 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:38,200 sucked. Yeah. 1533 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,520 So for him to land. With Duck duck, the Titans. 1534 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,160 Titans could. Have been they? 1535 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,880 They have nothing, you know, they so duck, duck the Titans. 1536 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,360 So he does move. Up he moves up and he moves up 1537 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,120 because his floor moved up and that's where I would just say 1538 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,120 like watch the price because if you're drafting a guy because 1539 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:59,720 like, hey, this old guy's floor got a little higher, like do you 1540 01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,200 want to pay fifth round for that? 1541 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,240 Like he's also. Not that old, he's 29. 1542 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,120 Yeah, but you mean he's like a he's a he's an old guy who fell 1543 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,040 off a little bit. Yeah, he's an old guy. 1544 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,720 He's he the way he runs, too, is not the. 1545 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:17,160 Hot take, it's actually not great for Cooper Cup either 1546 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,440 because I thought Washington was the most sensical landing spot 1547 01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:25,640 for him and now you start looking OK, who would actually 1548 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,600 trade for cup. So you lose basically the most 1549 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,240 efficient quarterback in the NFL last year is when? 1550 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,960 I mean I don't think they would do cup and debo. 1551 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,840 That would seem insane. Just load your offense up with 1552 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,560 30 year olds. Terry Mclaurin also 32 as well. 1553 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,120 So now. You're kind of sneaky good for 1554 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,000 Mclaurin, by the way. We're like I. 1555 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,280 I that I disagree with, but I am a noted Terry Hader. 1556 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,040 I just think that now it could be bad if they draft a receiver 1557 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,840 in the first round because now he's got all this extra 1558 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,920 competition. But if this is their move at 1559 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,760 receiver, that's pretty good for Terry. 1560 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,520 He's got the downfield stuff on lock. 1561 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,280 I mean, Terry was getting out targeted by Noah Brown for like 1562 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,920 long stretches last year. I'm such a Terry hater so like 1563 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,520 don't have this conversation with me. 1564 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,920 Let's play. Let's play a game. 1565 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,920 Next slide. The game is how do I get Pat to 1566 01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:26,200 make the slide change? We have Adam Thielen. 1567 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,440 Did you did did you bring Sam Sherman back in for this actor, 1568 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,840 Sam? Sherman retired from the show to 1569 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:38,000 make the charts full time. We have Adam Thielen at age 34, 1570 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,800 1/2 wide receiver, 26 last year in points per game. 1571 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,600 To his right we have a 31 year old wide receiver who was worse 1572 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,920 but was faster. Any guesses? 1573 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,800 Cooper Cup. Yeah, no, his yards per out run 1574 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:04,000 was in the twos. ESPN score 47 and 49. 1575 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,240 Very close. I'll give you a hint. 1576 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,040 This guy's. Team is it Tyree kill? 1577 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:13,360 It is Tyree kill, it is not. Exactly, I have to say this how 1578 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,840 did I figure out was Tyree kill? Because this is clearly a 1579 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,320 picture of Tyree kill. It's like, oh, I recognize that 1580 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,720 outline. That's Tyree kills head. 1581 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,480 Wide receiver 12 this year and he's gonna miss mostly 1582 01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:28,760 offseason, by the way, with was it a wrist injury? 1583 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,240 Yeah, a wrist injury. So I don't know, like I think I 1584 01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,280 like his value. You're into it. 1585 01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:41,000 I think so. I I think the likeliest outcome 1586 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,880 for Miami is better than last year on offense. 1587 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,280 Hua Hill, Waddle HN still the same guys. 1588 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,280 Jonnu Smith. I I want to give McDaniel that 1589 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,840 kind of benefit of the doubt here. 1590 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,680 And I know Hill isn't big, so a guy at 31 is not big, can maybe 1591 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,680 scare you. But yeah, I'm OK at that price, 1592 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,040 I'm OK. The one thing I'd say on the top 1593 01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:08,080 speed is that these are ball carrier speeds and we saw with 1594 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:14,440 Hill, you know, how much less he was getting used downfield and 1595 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,280 and hitting big plays where he's like in stride, you know, 1596 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,040 getting hit across across the deep middle and then like 1597 01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:21,760 getting up to full speed that way. 1598 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,720 It's like he was used a little bit more shallowly. 1599 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:29,480 So it just makes me like over the course of a of a season, 1600 01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:35,200 Tyree kills only going to hit 2122 mph like a handful of 1601 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:36,880 times. You know, I forget how many 1602 01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:41,960 times he did it in 2023, but it wasn't like every game, you 1603 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:47,880 know, And so the role change, it makes it like a we don't have 1604 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,960 data on him running like a go route and how fast he was like 1605 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,800 while running straight down the field. 1606 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,920 We only have speeds that he hit while the ball was in his hand. 1607 01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,440 So it's like a little, it's incomplete not to say that it's. 1608 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,760 That's fair, that's fair. But I mean, he doesn't have to 1609 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:11,840 be he Tyreke speed to be, you know, very relevant. 1610 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,600 And what do we have here? Like so ADP is 22. 1611 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:20,000 You're drafting Bijan or Barkley or Gibbs in that first round. 1612 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:25,400 The receivers there are who Hill, Garrett Wilson and JSN 1613 01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,920 comes up right there. I, I like, I like to start 1614 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,320 Gibbs, Tyreke, JSN. That sounds great to me. 1615 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,960 I'm still willing to take him. I do think that the floor's low. 1616 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,480 Like there is some evidence that he's fallen off, which is bad 1617 01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:41,360 for an older receiver, especially when relying on 1618 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,400 speed. I just think we don't want to 1619 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,680 get like too carried away with how strong that evidence is. 1620 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:50,240 It's like it's, it should give you a little bit of a, like a 1621 01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,040 bad feeling in your gut, but not it. 1622 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,440 It's just that, you know, it's not conclusive. 1623 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,080 It's pretty funny though. It is funny, yeah. 1624 01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,760 Crane, where do I find double coverage stats? 1625 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,720 I cannot find it on PFF right now. 1626 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:12,320 It's I'll show you gotta like there's a filter thing. 1627 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,840 'Cause I know for a fact that these people talking about the 1628 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,120 double coverage stats for Maclaurin are wrong. 1629 01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:22,560 It's just because Cliff refuses to move anyone around. 1630 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,480 But I can't. I can't find it right now. 1631 01:24:25,480 --> 01:24:27,960 I know it's like really laughably low for a wider Super 1632 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,320 1 though. Quick look at risers and 1633 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,680 fallers, name of the game before we come to a close here. 1634 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,320 And Tyree Kill did move up a couple of spots here. 1635 01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:45,080 Travis Kelsey, obvious reasons, is basically an announcement or 1636 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,960 was said for him that he'll be back with the Chiefs, you know, 1637 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,320 at least probably. So that's about a round little 1638 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:56,360 less than a round jump. He he said it. 1639 01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,360 He said it himself too. OK, good. 1640 01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:00,400 Yeah, he said it himself. He is playing. 1641 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:05,280 I I took him with Pete on ship chasing and was saying I think 1642 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,160 he'll rise. And this is a pretty good price 1643 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,200 for, you know, the the washed version of Kelsey. 1644 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:15,160 People hated it. It's it is gross, but I think, 1645 01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,920 you know, he should he should kind of rise up into the like 1646 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,880 late 9th and I, I don't want to be. 1647 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,160 It should be, it should be him and a Joku, you know, kind of 1648 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,280 kind of coin flip. Exactly. 1649 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,080 Tyler Warren. It's like you could tell me 1650 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,720 either way. You could tell me. 1651 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,680 You could tell me Tyler Warren lands at a nut spot and gets 97 1652 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,640 targets as a rookie. Or you could. 1653 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:44,160 I mean, the thing with Kelsey is, I mean, the dude still had 1654 01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:49,160 97 receptions last year. Yeah, man, dude, I don't think 1655 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,520 it's necessarily bad if Worthy takes a step forward, right? 1656 01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,640 And then Rice has this injury. I don't know that Rice is going 1657 01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,320 to be able to come in and like dominate targets the way he 1658 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,160 might have in an alternate timeline. 1659 01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:04,240 So Kelsey's like he's part of the underneath, you know, target 1660 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:08,480 mix in a way that's not going to. 1661 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,600 He's not the engine of the offense at at all. 1662 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,560 But can he be an Evan Ingram? Can he be a David and Joku like 1663 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,640 I think he can. I like this is this is what we 1664 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,080 normally pay for that so. A lot of interesting names in 1665 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,760 there. Ferguson's in there too, and the 1666 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,440 guy like the most I think of most of these guys, if not all, 1667 01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:27,440 would be Kraft. Maybe just a little bit later 1668 01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:29,480 than Kelsey, but good offense, good player. 1669 01:26:29,480 --> 01:26:33,280 I moved. I moved Kraft up in my in my 1670 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,000 rankings too. I like that. 1671 01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:37,880 How much? How much for Warren? 1672 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,040 How much do you think he gets? Like Wildcat stuff? 1673 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,920 Because I did have the commenter was like, you're, you're 1674 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,000 discounting that he's can actually be used on some of 1675 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,720 these like creative stuff around the goal line, which will kind 1676 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,200 of juice his profile a little bit. 1677 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,240 Because as a, as a pure like receiving tight end prospect, he 1678 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:57,440 doesn't really pop. I mean, he he's fine, but like 1679 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,760 for the amount of hype that he gets, he's just, you know, I 1680 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,880 don't see him that differently than, you know, some of these 1681 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,040 other like good, not amazing bets that we've had over the 1682 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:11,320 years. Yeah, it's like if Bowers didn't 1683 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,440 get any Wildcat type stuff, then I'm not thinking that's going to 1684 01:27:14,440 --> 01:27:17,520 be a big plan for Tyler Warren. That's not what. 1685 01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,240 I was thinking. Maybe he gets like 5 rushes or 1686 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:25,320 something, but there is this bad pattern matching that people are 1687 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,880 doing. It's like dude, Tyler Warren, I 1688 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,840 like him. He he is not Brock Bowers. 1689 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,560 He's just not Brock Bowers. Yeah. 1690 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,720 He's a he's a four year player who was not. 1691 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,960 Might be 5 year even. He he and he was not the the 1692 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,560 leading receiver on his team until the end you. 1693 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,600 Know he wasn't the tight end until Theo Johnson left the 1694 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,880 program. Yeah, so I I like Tyler Warren, 1695 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,640 good player. I think his ADP is rational. 1696 01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,760 Maybe not, maybe not like a screaming by, but like rational. 1697 01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,160 But he is not Brock Powers. And he wears he's slightly. 1698 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,120 Behind on him at ADP. I'm not saying he's a mega fade 1699 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,200 or anything. He wears 44 because Davis 1700 01:28:06,440 --> 01:28:09,520 because. John Riggins, his dad, his dad 1701 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:10,640 told him. Play like that. 1702 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,080 John Riggins, Do I have his helmet up today? 1703 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,200 Yeah, that was the Washington logo. 1704 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:22,960 I can't use it fallers. So I'm curious. 1705 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,840 We have, do we want to talk any of these other guys or no, we're 1706 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:27,240 good. Neighbors. 1707 01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:29,680 Like, whatever, right? He should be. 1708 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,720 He should be a he. Actually, he should maybe be a 1709 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,120 slight faller because it's now confirmed Matt Stafford's not 1710 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,600 his quarterback. The best case, best case, you're 1711 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,560 getting Aaron Rodgers. That's not best case, because 1712 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:41,960 then you're getting Devante Adams too. 1713 01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,400 Yeah, true, true. True, best case is word at this 1714 01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:45,400 point. Yeah. 1715 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,040 For the Giants, oh boy, yeah, there's there's no best case. 1716 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,560 Also, we had Marvin Harrison on there, a slight uptick. 1717 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,200 Noah Gray with Kelsey's announcement. 1718 01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,160 James Cook wants to get paid. He's talking about 15,000,000 a 1719 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:01,720 year. We'll see if that drags out. 1720 01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,200 The Bills rarely get in the ditch when it comes to these 1721 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:06,720 contracts. They just seem to get them done 1722 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,200 very smoothly. But we'll see if Cook is 1723 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,640 different in that way. He's got his brother in the 1724 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,560 history with Dalvin Cook maybe in his ear. 1725 01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,960 Then we have DeAndre Swift and Roshan Johnson. 1726 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,400 What's this we're expecting Genti or some the? 1727 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,640 GM basically said we're adding a. 1728 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,880 Running back, yeah, yeah, that's that right. 1729 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:28,920 I, I think, I think Johnson and Swift. 1730 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,360 I mean Swift was always very strangely priced. 1731 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:37,960 I mean, the Ben Johnson, like ice, this guy, we just think 1732 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,680 he's going to use them now weirdly in the deepest run back 1733 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,120 class in years. I feel like Roshan is more 1734 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,920 secure. It's like his role is like he's 1735 01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,000 he's a big guy, do goal line, he can do it there. 1736 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,720 I mean, he's not very, he's not not a great player obviously, 1737 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,160 but like Swift is the type of guy who like can get iced so 1738 01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,480 fast. I just think that like with 1739 01:29:59,480 --> 01:30:03,400 Roshan, like what does he got over Rocket Sanders and and it's 1740 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,480 a new new coaching staff, you know, like it. 1741 01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:08,320 What does he got over Damien Martinez? 1742 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:12,520 You know, Ollie Gordon, like any of these dudes come in, they're 1743 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,400 just like I'm the new Roshan now bye. 1744 01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:21,280 It's just it's just a you don't win much like you win the bears 1745 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,200 backup. That's right, you or rotational 1746 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,600 player, because Swift is is still going to be there. 1747 01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:32,000 So it's just kind of, I don't know, it's a little bit. 1748 01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:37,240 It's low floor, low ceiling. Mike, what would you do if 1749 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:38,400 you're the bill? Are you paying Cook? 1750 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,880 Because I think that if Cook's asking for a lot of money, I'd 1751 01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,240 be tempted to just draft a guy day three and be like, let's see 1752 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:46,400 how this guy plays. We are. 1753 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,280 We are Ray Davis. What do we need you for, 1754 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,520 brother? I think what will happen is 1755 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:55,880 he'll come in with a three or four year contract that the 1756 01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,840 analytics world will be like OMGI mean what are we doing 1757 01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,560 running backs? But we did just have a year, not 1758 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:06,120 DeAndre Swift in this example, but where that paid off for 1759 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:09,320 teams paying up and running back and I think they see him as 1760 01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,120 core. SO16 rushing touchdowns. 1761 01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:17,040 I'd expect, you know, him to get that, them to get that done with 1762 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,800 him over the course of time, maybe not real soon. 1763 01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,640 And if it doesn't happen real soon, he might get pushed down a 1764 01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,840 little bit more as people might start to speculate about that. 1765 01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,360 But just remember, he's going to have avoided. 1766 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:32,200 He's going to get the fake Josh Jacobs contract, but really it's 1767 01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,640 a year by year and they can void it at any time. 1768 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,520 It's like 9 and a half, $1,000,000 per year or 1769 01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:39,640 something. That's my guess. 1770 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,520 Bills paying for rushing touchdowns to to James Cook 1771 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,680 would be such a cell phone. So insane. 1772 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,840 Come on, like, how are you going to score? 1773 01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,160 How are you going to score touchdowns without James Cook 1774 01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:52,960 Like. I know. 1775 01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,480 I think, I think they'll do it. I think they'll do it OK. 1776 01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:00,280 It seems, it does seem like they value continuity and I mean 1777 01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,520 paying Shakur all that money or whatever. 1778 01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,360 Everybody's just got a lot more cap room, too. 1779 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:06,920 So true. They're going to they're going 1780 01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,800 to restructure Alan and I think that this will probably happen. 1781 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,880 The Bills have by the way, quickly three or four other guys 1782 01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,440 that are one year away from a pretty big contract potentially. 1783 01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:20,880 Christian Benford is 1, Terrell Barnard is one. 1784 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,400 Rousseau's on the 5th year option. 1785 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:28,480 So they're they're offseason in this, in this context is about 1786 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,880 keeping guys that list, including Cook and Shakur was 1787 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,000 also on that list. Here's AI don't know if it'll 1788 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,160 apply to this particular contract because it it won't 1789 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:40,960 cause 'cause Cook's not going to get a big enough deal. 1790 01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:44,360 But I was listening to this is just a an interesting nugget 1791 01:32:45,480 --> 01:32:50,560 that James Palmer raised on the heat, the call pod where he was 1792 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:56,800 talking about how Jeff Lurie understands the the kind of the 1793 01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:02,080 way the NF LS headed so well and kind of the the the contracts 1794 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,760 for the games and the the TV contracts that like, I think 1795 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:11,320 it's 2029, there's new deals and that's when the cap can actually 1796 01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,320 go up again and will probably go up a lot. 1797 01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,360 So they're actually like structuring stuff to put money 1798 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:21,120 into 2029 when they know the cap will go up again. 1799 01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,680 That's that's, I mean, like if Bengals have to play in a league 1800 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,520 with with that team, like they're, they're just how do you 1801 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:33,280 how do you have any chance? It's that particular sorry, Pat, 1802 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,480 like I know it's that particular element of strategy. 1803 01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:38,840 And also just like look at the team they built and everybody 1804 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,000 got to the Super Bowl and like they have the best player in 1805 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,760 every position and look how good they are. 1806 01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,080 That's how they did it. Hertz contract. 1807 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,240 Everything is pushed out toward that season. 1808 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:52,480 And, you know, even if now that they've won, even if they they 1809 01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:55,480 have to blow it up at that point, OK, it was worth it, you 1810 01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,440 know, so that's. And they and they don't they, 1811 01:33:58,440 --> 01:34:01,800 they, they understand exactly the way to kind of do it again. 1812 01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,720 Meanwhile, the the Bengals are bragging about how they're going 1813 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,160 to we're we're not going to let this linger here with Jamar 1814 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,240 Chase. We're going to we're going to 1815 01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:13,000 get this done quickly. Like you couldn't get it done 1816 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:13,440 quickly. What? 1817 01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:15,000 I got it done like two years ago. 1818 01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:16,120 Yeah, Right. Yeah. 1819 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,280 Before we go, any quick thoughts on the Metcalf to Green Bay 1820 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:24,320 rumor? Green Bay should do it, and 1821 01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,160 they're gonna balk at the cost. They won't give up a first 1822 01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,920 rounder. Green Bay, a classically cheap 1823 01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,360 organization as well. Are they gonna basically say 1824 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,880 here that Josh Jacobs was right getting a wide receiver one? 1825 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,320 You don't think they will? You're saying that, but. 1826 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,720 I, I think no, I think Josh Jacobs is right. 1827 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,920 I think it's pretty clear you you watch the Eagles with A.J. 1828 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,560 Brown, you watch these teams, you watch the Bengals with Jamar 1829 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,640 Chase, like having a true, you know what? 1830 01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,280 What does Brady always say? Gotta have it having the wide 1831 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,560 receiver that you throw it to on the gotta have it play instead 1832 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,800 of just being like, well, sometimes it's Jayden Reid and 1833 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,280 sometimes it's Romeo Dubs. Like I think there's real, real 1834 01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:05,480 value and that. But yeah, the the Seahawks are, 1835 01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,800 the Seahawks are not doing that. Interesting how Metcalf has 1836 01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,600 really not been that guy over the years, but you know, he 1837 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,920 seems like he should be or could be, but not too many games was 1838 01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:15,480 he? Really, it was. 1839 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:16,760 It was Locket. Player. 1840 01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,200 It was Locket who was the gotta have it and now it's JSNI mean 1841 01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,880 it's clearly JSN is the is the gotta have it guy. 1842 01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,360 Right, right. Isn't it weird that like, if 1843 01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,960 you're the Seahawks and you're sticking with Geno Smith, what 1844 01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:31,720 is the point of shopping DK Metcalf? 1845 01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,120 Well, Gino's on like a super cheap deal, like I think you'll 1846 01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,840 blow. It up if you're bring like you 1847 01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,000 got to be bringing in competition then like that, that 1848 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,400 is point. That is, you never had a job for 1849 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,960 an NFL team talk. It's, it's just when you are 1850 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,760 when you are, you just hired the new OC. 1851 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:51,600 You just got rid of Pete Carroll. 1852 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,680 You know, you, you, you're not rolling in. 1853 01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,680 I, I literally do not. You're not rolling into the 1854 01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,360 season with Sam Howell at $4 million or whatever, like. 1855 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:01,520 No, I'm I'm talking about you. You should be the Jackson Dart 1856 01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,920 team in round one. Oh, sure, sure. 1857 01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,120 And they still might do that. I think that's totally on the 1858 01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:09,760 table. Could they get A1 and Wix for 1859 01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:15,440 Metcalf and then you know just a style difference there and you 1860 01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:19,640 know not is the style that. That DK Metcalf catches, the 1861 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,560 ball catches. The ball and plays and plays 1862 01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:23,520 and. Plays. 1863 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,640 That's one thing that's different about them is he 1864 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,240 plays. Yeah, that's right. 1865 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,040 I mean, A1 for DK Metcalf I OK, OK. 1866 01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,960 And then you, you know, maybe you take Dart, then you're, 1867 01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,520 you're kind of doing a little bit of a soft reset. 1868 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:39,920 OK, I I would see that but but I think. 1869 01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,120 It's OK to. Do it as like just part if 1870 01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,360 you're just sticking with Gino as your quarterback and you're 1871 01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:45,960 getting rid of DK Metcalf, it doesn't. 1872 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:50,120 It feels more like the Titans, which that that soft reset 1873 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,440 wasn't so soft, you know? A.J. 1874 01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:55,040 Brown for the one and the three. Yeah, that's right. 1875 01:36:55,480 --> 01:36:58,480 Yeah, it feels a little bit more like actually this is a 1876 01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:00,760 crumbling franchise that doesn't have any idea what. 1877 01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,760 It is especially because they they got nothing left behind. 1878 01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,240 Like they don't even have a third guy that you're like, oh, 1879 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:10,120 he might be kind of intriguing if they play more like they got 1880 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:11,880 nothing. So it would be like you're 1881 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:15,680 taking Jalen Noel and who's the guy? 1882 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:19,120 Dante Thornton Junior, the guy who ran the Crazy 40 and just 1883 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,440 like hoping something works out. They still do have lock in under 1884 01:37:22,440 --> 01:37:24,680 contract but he's owed like a bajillion dollars. 1885 01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:28,440 He's he's the most obvious restructure, cut or retire in 1886 01:37:28,440 --> 01:37:31,440 the National Football League. I don't think the restructures 1887 01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:35,000 in play because of like how embarrassingly like the the the 1888 01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,520 gap, like what they'd actually be willing to pay him versus 1889 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,000 what he's like supposed to get paid is just too much. 1890 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,000 He can't. He can't stomach it. 1891 01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:46,440 Davis Or are you both maybe just coming up right after we're done 1892 01:37:46,440 --> 01:37:50,520 with something new? Yep as soon as this ends, if 1893 01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,320 you're if you're on this page, you will just get immediately 1894 01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,920 transported to my YouTube channel and I'm going to be 1895 01:37:55,920 --> 01:38:00,160 drafting some big boards got got the new ranks fired up got them 1896 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:03,720 imported into the sidekick. So I you know because I'm only 1897 01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:07,680 drafting these on stream. So the whole, you know, the 1898 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,840 whole combine just happens. I know I don't know what I'm 1899 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,520 jumping into. I I'll I have literally no idea 1900 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,560 what I'm about to be faced with here in a couple minutes. 1901 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:20,600 Pat Ship chasing still rudely Wednesday afternoons cuz that's 1902 01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,880 when I'm on. You still doing that Thursday? 1903 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,520 Yeah, Thursday afternoon. Thursday afternoons Third thing 1904 01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,880 Well, it's fair to rudely say the wrong day, given that we're 1905 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:30,800 rudely. Going that's that is fair. 1906 01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,000 That is fair. I'll be off to draft some 1907 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,440 baseball this weekend in Philly with some friends. 1908 01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:38,360 Annual. Trip nice SO. 1909 01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:43,240 You can't watch it. Though ship chasing Thursday 1910 01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:44,800 afternoons. I would also say check out 1911 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:46,760 Michael Dubner's article in Legendary Upside. 1912 01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:51,440 Just posted the Light last week talking about some of the most 1913 01:38:51,440 --> 01:38:54,160 mispriced players in the big board. 1914 01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,000 Highly recommend that. And I'm going to be working on 1915 01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,960 my rookie prospects this week, which I hopefully will start 1916 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,120 publishing those very soon. I'm going to start with the 1917 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:07,240 quarterbacks and cover all the positions for both dynasty and 1918 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,720 best ball diving deep into these profiles. 1919 01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:13,280 So so look for those and I'll be on streaming at the end of the 1920 01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,640 week with Davis and Jacob, Jacob Sanderson. 1921 01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:19,320 We're going to be talking the dynasty takeaways from the 1922 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,760 combine and I'll be back on at some point to to stream some 1923 01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:27,120 drafts of the sidekick good so. Can't wait to listen to all that 1924 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:30,240 on my drive this weekend. All right, next week, free 1925 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,560 agency franchise tag stuff. We'll no doubt, as always, have 1926 01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,160 a lot to talk about. Thanks for watching and 1927 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:36,600 listening today for Pat and Davis. 1928 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:37,680 I'm Mike. See you next week.