We are long overdue for our annual Winner's Circle episode.
So many people from the ship chasing community, not just Sam
Sherman, so many others taking down big tournaments for big
prizes. We're going to talk to a couple
of them today on the stream, including the eliminator champ
Yosh and the marathon champ Gobbler.
And before that, we're going to talk a little 202680 PA, little
playoff, best ball, All that good stuff.
Ship chasing is back. Let's do it, Pat Fryer, Helmo
Anita. Hand job.
Fix your sight. Jamar and Alpha play chase.
You. Can't handle the heat.
It looks like we're finally at this.
Point you're right. All right, I think was the last
show on this channel, the Friday night show with Dink and Leone
before Wild Card weekend. Oh, you're muted again, Pat I.
Don't know why I was muted now. Yeah, I think it was.
I believe that's right. Well, we are back.
We, you know, we got to take our little hibernation to, you know,
rest up after playoff week. But yes, we got Davis here.
Pat. No, no Jacob, but hopefully
getting him back in the fold shortly.
How you doing, Davis? Doing great man.
I mean I'm just all the way locked in on 2026 best ball
drafts. Never never been more locked in
people. People are saying sidekick
launched. Realized halfway through my
first draft today that the sidekick in the corner of my
stream was giving me suggestions that I hadn't.
Been. Been.
Seeing so that was that was nice.
Yeah, I'm. I'm locked.
In did a little little soft launch before the official
launch just to make sure things weren't weren't going to, you
know, be going crazy. So yeah, little benefit if you
kept it installed. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah. I mean, there's no such thing as
a soft launch if Davis is streaming big board draft.
That's kind of a hard launch, yeah.
Yeah, it's just going to pop up. No, it's funny because Dwayne
from Fantasy Life messaged me the other day and he's like,
hey, do you want to come on my show Friday and talk like early
Big board AT PS? And I'm like, I I haven't even
looked at it. And I just pointed him directly
in Davis's direct. I was going to say, I literally,
literally just got done recording with Dwayne, OK?
There you go. So I was like, I, I think you're
the only one in, of course, who are, have been diving in.
But yeah, what are what are some of your guys's early, early
reactions on, on the landscape? Are there any like big
corrections relative to what happened last year?
Yeah, people love running backs, man.
Running, running. Like dude it running backs are
back. Yeah, I think running backs kind
of are back right now, especially like in this early
stretch. What I've noticed with the
Sidekick, cuz we're testing is like a lot of what we're
getting, we're getting a lot of hyper fragile builds.
You get a lot with like 3X running back starts or you go
like McBride in three running backs or Bowers in three running
backs or a receiver in three running backs.
Like I did JSN and then I think it was IKB debris, of course.
But yeah, second round pick, I forget some, you know, some
solid running back there. And then I took Henderson in the
4th and then you might tackle on like a, a Basil Tooten, of
course, you know, 8th or 9th. But then it's like you just kind
of hammer receivers. I think there's some really
mispriced receivers in like the 70 ish range, even in the 60s.
So the the running back class isn't particularly good.
And you know, there's a lot of uncertainty around running back.
So it it does make sense to kind of get some of those running
back points and then you can build with, with the way some
receivers are mispriced as well and the receiver class being
better for the rookies. Those builds are are pretty
strong. Not the only way to do it, but
but they're pretty strong. There you go.
What about you, Davis? What have you discovered through
your 46 Big Board drafts? I've discovered that the
sidekick is way more bullish on Alvin Kamara than I am, and I've
discovered that the general populace doesn't think Travis
Kelsey is going to play football in 2026 for, for whatever
reason, given that there's been like no chatter about him
retiring, he said. I'm excited to see Eric be enemy
in the building. I don't.
It's just like ETR does not have Travis Kelsey in their rankings.
I I don't we. Get you'll get him on the
sidekick because we, we, we're kind of ahead of Mahomes.
So you get him at the end. I think there's some chance he
retires. I, I would say, I'd say he's
like -130 to play like, not a, not a lock, but like, yeah, I, I
would, I would say it's, I just feel like it's hard for like if
you're him, wouldn't it be the hard for you for the last snap
you played with Mahomes to be the snap where he tore his ACL
or the last snap you took in the NFL was quarterback by Crystal
Otakun. But if you're Travis Kelsey and
you're looking around the landscape of the AFC and you see
that the Bills just promoted Joe Brady, doesn't that you just,
you don't want to come back. I mean, they just kind of locked
it up. Yeah, Joe, Joe Brady.
Joe Brady just got promoted. You know, Bo Nicks and Bonex and
Sean Payton are arguing about Bonex's ankle surgery.
They, they're, they're not communicating.
So like all, all seems good. Yeah, Pat, you were.
You've been one of the most vocal people on ADP, chasing
episodes with rants about how the Bills were running their
offense. How excited are you about Joe
Brady's new vision for the future?
I'm bummed out, man. I kind of it.
It almost happened, you know, like they got that they did it
in the most incompetent way possible of, you know, the, the
regime change, they empowered this GM who, who's like hasn't
had any good picks in like 5 years outside of Josh Allen,
which is good, pretty good pick. But but you know, if you're
going to, if you're going to like go a new direction, you'd
think he'd be involved. And then it seemed clear like
part of the appeal of Brady is that they he would be
controllable by being, you know, they didn't want to like bring
in a coach who might have more power in the building and being
ultimately he didn't want to get he didn't want to get Joe shamed
by a Jim Harbaugh by a John Harbaugh.
Excuse me. So I think it's a bummer.
I mean, Brady's not like a total donkey.
He does some stuff. I some of the film guys like
Brady for, you know, there was a, a dude breaking out a play
sequencing. It seemed positive about it.
I wasn't impressed. You know, the video didn't
impress me, but whatever. And you know, some of the like
play design stuff is apparently pretty good.
But I just think from a high level perspective, if you're
running that much on 1st down, if you're running that much
overall, if you kind of have these like conservative game
plans where you're losing and you only score like 23 points to
like the Falcons or the Dolphins or whatever, like it's just
embarrassing. Like you, you have to, you have
to be able to put the ball in Josh Allen's hands and and say
when it's the game, we're not afraid of you throwing an
interception. And I'm not sure Brady is
mentally capable of doing that. I had to pull up.
The Bills had a photo of him. It is a new head coaching office
and it's like big Michael Scott like vibes in here exploring the
new space. He looks more like the IT guy to
be at this photo than the the new head coach of the Buffalo
Bills. He does look like the IT guy.
He. He.
Doesn't he doesn't really look like a head coach, I I got to
say. I love the gold chade too, just
always really gets. Me, yeah.
With him. But yeah, Bill's Bill's good.
He. Looks like he's like I I feel
like I'm in high school right now and with, with Joe Brady
that's we're high school kids together.
Yeah, she's. Getting connected to the
Internet. I mean, look, this is the guy
that's going to get a bunch of Josh Allen fantasy points.
Oh man. Oh man.
Have any other like coaching hot stove moves move the needle for
you guys? It's going to be really hard to
draft Chargers players because everyone is so freaking frothy
about Mike McDaniel. Like, yeah, this'll this'll be
the guy, dude, don't worry. Don't worry, man.
Justin Herbert, quarterback 5. Sure do it.
Good idea everybody. Go for it.
You got you. You find any opportunity to shit
on Justin Herbert, I could sneeze and you'd find a way to
talk about. He's drafted 20 spots ahead of
Jalen Hertz. It's not even.
It's just not. Real.
Yeah, the Hertz AD PS doesn't make any sense.
Hertz and Daniels are very, very cheap.
Yeah, well, what a Speaking of expensive quarterbacks, where
Pat, where did you end up falling on?
Do you have to owe Caleb an apology after that sick throw in
the divisional round or still? I don't know.
I mean, I think like Caleb, I would say has moved up a notch.
You know, I was saying he's a six.
Davis is saying he's a seven. I think Davis is right that he's
that he is A7. So I'll give him that apology.
Yeah, I'll give. Him that well I mean I mean
shout out shout out to Jacob being right about DJ Moore by
the way, I mean Jacob Jacob hating DJ Moore ultimately
proved correct from DJ Moore you guys I mean we're.
Really. And now Jacob's a market maker
with this Hertz ADP apparently. I mean, I mean, he might be a
little high for Jacob, but. The the DJ Moore was running 3
mph slower once Caleb Williams let the ball go than he was
before Caleb Williams threw the ball Just like insane.
Like he basically just gave up on the play.
I don't know it's so. Frustrating.
I love that you can't you can't soft quit on your team now
because next Gen. stats is gonna like.
Pull the limits. On how fast you are ready, Oh
man. Why are you soft quitting
overtime of a playoff game anyways, DJ Moore?
He's he's scared about Luther Burden coming to eat his lunch.
It's it's the only answer there. The Bills are going to trade a
conditional 4th round pick for DJ Moore and that's going to
solve other problems. And dude, Joe Brady's going to
throw even more screens. The screens.
Are going to be even screenier.
I, I have to say like this, this offseason coaching carousel had
the potential to be like really amazing.
But like Mike McCarthy's back, you know, Todd Munkin, like John
Harbaugh's hiring was kind of fun because, because Munkin
seemed like he'd be cool with Jackson Dart, but then Munkin
goes to the Browns, and then they're gonna lose Swartz, who's
like the only good part of. That I love how Schwartz is like
protest. He's so pissed off about the
higher he's like I'm out like he shouldn't be pissed off.
Buddy on the table just did not deal with that.
So yeah, I mean, Swartz is a pretty good DC and I don't know,
I mean, Monken's good, but like, what's he doing like?
OK. Did did you guys have this
reaction when people were talking about Jim Schwartz as a
potential head coach for the Browns?
Were you thinking that can't possibly be the same Jim
Schwartz like that? Can't possibly.
Be the one. The Lions head coach.
I was thinking it was a good move because like it, it's sort
of a they're in a holding pattern.
Like this is like the Browns are kind of on hiatus.
You know what? I mean.
Like they're they're on hiatus until Deshaun Watson's contract
expired. Rounds are taking a sabbatical
for the next year at least, and they have a good defense.
Schwartz is good. So you're kind of like, hey, our
DC is awesome, our defense is really good.
We're rewarding him or he's going to get paid more while
we're on sabbatical and we'll come back in a couple years.
You're just going to pretend that they don't have a Pro Bowl
quarterback at their disposal? Can I Hold on, Hold on, can I?
Did you guys, did you guys hear Shidor Sanders was just voted
into the Hall of Fame? While we're Pete, I just shared
my screen while we're doing coaching carousel talk.
This, this is how deep this goes.
We've got Michael Leone doing laundry bro bits.
This is how this is how deep the the the the tentacles of the
Bills failure has gone. So Leonie is responding to a
tweet. If the bills pulled the trigger
on Waddle, are they playing next week?
Quote tweeting a yes. And Leonie is doing the YouTube
commenter bit of saying as long as he stayed out of the blue.
Oh my God. Like like this is wrecked the
psyche of one of the most balanced people I know.
You know, it wrecked the psyche because we invited him on the
Swole cast and Davis said it was his son Micah's birthday and he
couldn't do it. Then the Joe Brady news broke
and Leonie spent the entire rest of the day on Twitter and I was
like the worst birthday ever for Micah.
Like it's just so funny. And, and, and I mean, have we,
we got the the official shop opinion on this as, as, as our
guy, as our guy shop. I don't think I've seen shop
weigh in on on Brady. Yeah, I, I just like obviously
we got the the chess Liam reveal which.
Is you're not going to believe this, but Liam was pretty
bullish on the hire. Did you see the back-to-back
tweets? I was, I was hoping someone
would grab it, but it was Gretch was like, I don't know how
anyone could defend this and then it.
Was in the ship chasing discord. Yeah, yeah.
It's it's Liam defending it. So someone well, it's so funny
too, to me because like some of that thought process was like,
OK, or I think Liam's take was, you know, if Josh Allen likes
Brady, then just keep Josh Allen happy.
But wasn't part of the reporting that they didn't ask Josh Allen
about firing McDermott before they fired McDermott?
That the owner just went rogue with an emotional?
It was just a it was just a response to Josh Allen's tears.
It's like, do you care about Josh Allen's opinion or or not?
Yeah, but being it clear like McDermott was signaling they
that relationship was souring, right.
Mcdermott's basically like, you know, maybe if I had a receiver,
like a single receiver, that would be cool.
And maybe he's like talking to his press conference about
Jacoby Myers before the Jags game.
Like Jacoby, what a great trade that was probably something we
could have considered doing. You know, like they were clearly
at odds him and being. And so he loses that power
struggle. But I mean, yeah, Joe, what do
you Joe? Brady's his.
Theory on his My Rookie mini, like when he goes to organized
team activities. Do you think Keon Coleman's
going to have a nice time with Joe Brady or, or do you do you
just at this point, do you just have to just cut Keon Coleman
because it's so jover like? I I don't know how has Keon had
a quote since that presser? Has he said anything his.
I have not seen one. He's done some stand up bits but
I don't think he's addressed it. He posted he posted some some
sketch comedy on his YouTube channel.
The. And I know is it the seller?
He's got a he's got a he's got a new skit out titled When?
This girl's boyfriend definitely has her blocked on every social
media platform. The I know she's your number one
rival, but the MENA Khan's tweet of the I think you should leave
sketch the courtroom sketch of the Oh yeah, watching that
press. Talking about me.
Oh my God, yeah. Just what?
And he's still. I mean, where?
What are the AD PS on Bill's wide receiver?
Where is Shakur? And where's Coleman going in Big
Board? Shakur is the only one that gets
drafted. Yeah, Shakur is is a wide
receiver. We haven't ranked wide receiver
40 threes AD PS one O 2.4. We're a little ahead of that.
We don't have it. We don't have Coleman ranked.
What are the best teams in football?
And we have one wide receiver going in 240 picks with just
what a what a world. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
I'd rather Jack Josh Palmer than Canon Coleman.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, if I'm, if I'm Keon
Coleman's agent, I'm, I'm saying you got to get me the hell out
of here. Like, I mean, the owner just
said I'm a piece of shit. Like give give me somewhere to
give me somewhere to. Wait, what's?
What's the pitch? Is it that I think you can I
what I I used to be a piece of shit.
Not anymore. I used to be a piece of shit.
I'm I'm good now, Pete. Oh, yeah.
I was going to say never mind you already.
You already did this. You you guess an ADP.
So does anyone here have any playoff basketball sweats
heading into the Super Bowl? I do, I have.
I mean, it's not like super live for first place because man gone
has a really awesome team, which which I know DraftKings doesn't
show you the other teams in the pot, but I am in the final of
the the DK Millie over, you know, the $1,000,000 first
tournament, $200,000 to second. Could we spread that?
Could we flatten that? Maybe that I don't have the the
favorite, but yeah, I got in with with Drake may team, of
course, but it also has Sam Darnold's Kenneth Walker K Shawn
Booty Hunter Henry, Stefan Diggs Cooper Cup.
So. Was it equally as hard on DK to
get Seattle stuff through or was there a a mitigating factor?
Seattle stuff was pretty hard to get through and specifically JSN
which I don't have and I don't know Mangoan does, so I'm like
to finish first. I would need Hunter Henry to
outscore AJ Barner and then that to help me cover the gap between
like Keyshawn Booty and or Cooper Cup and JSM.
That's how I that's how I won a mil.
I feel like the, the, it's so cruel too, because even there
were those teams heading into conference championship that
were like the Pats onslaughts and then that game flops and all
of a sudden like those teams don't look good anymore.
I, I feel bad for the people on BBMDB, like the one guy
Limehouse, he's in the Deposit Kingdom discord.
He has a $500,000 EV showing to his team right now.
And it's just like one play swings slightly differently and
you're actually by 4. I don't feel that bad for him.
It's it's the equivalent of being up stuck, right?
Because once you see the best possible prize, it can only get
worse from there. Because I'm telling you, even if
he wins 50K, he's going to be like, fuck, I stared AT500K all
week. But yes, David, I, I understand
you would, you would take you would take the 500 K of EV right
now I had, I had, I mean, why? Why doesn't he?
Why doesn't he just call CSU RAM and and send himself a nice
little floor? He should.
Yeah.
I had AI, had a really nice portfolio going into conference
championship and it entirely depended on the Rams winning.
I think I still have four teams in the gauntlet finals.
I guess there's some Patriots on there but all of them are are
dead with Rams which which sucks.
Yeah, I have a team in the gauntlet named Dead.
It has Ramandre and Henderson, so so that's cool.
Ramandre by the way, is on my DK team if I if I forgot to mention
him. But I have a Mitten 3 team
that's live that has an EV of almost $6000 according to our a
buddy Patrick Donovan. There you go.
So that's cool. If you don't know what we're
talking about on bbmdb.com, PD has expected value for all the
teams across underdog playoff basketball contest.
Someone DM Ed me on Twitter and said dude I made the final of
the DK stuff. Can you tell me how to figure
out this stuff and ownership? I was like I don't I don't think
that exists. Does it exist?
What can't exist because we don't know the teams, the they
they lock the pods. Like you could change your your
players late swap. You can yeah, it's like late
swap. It's like the play, the games
haven't started, so you can't see.
It's like, well, they kind of have DK because I can't change
anything, can I? So it's a little frustrating,
but we'll, but in some ways it's good.
You know, we'll once, once the Super Bowl kicks off, then we'll
then we'll know. And we can't.
I can't sweat it until. Then maybe it's not.
DraftKings is just protecting people and their mental health.
They're saying it's not good to get your hopes up and think
about this for an entire two weeks.
So that's kind of what I was thinking.
But then the problem is, right, once the Super Bowl kicks off,
instead of like, watching the game, I'm going to be like,
furiously checking the DK app and seeing what other teams have
what. So I'm going to be cramming
during the game. So I'd actually prefer just to
be able to do this now, you know?
I, I feel like you, even in our group chats, you've been very
quiet about this run by Drake May because it has been a kind
of a divisive playoff run for your king.
Some people saying they got lucky.
He hasn't been playing well. One of the worst quarterbacks to
ever make it to the Super Bowl. I don't.
Know are people saying that? I just said that.
What do you have to say about Drake May's two playoff games?
I mean, it hasn't been great. Like he's he didn't look.
So I actually, you know, I thought the Texans game wasn't
so bad where he's he didn't play all that well, but he made a
couple very nice throws. Booty has an incredible catch
and that is probably it's one of those things we're heading into
the game. The Texans had the best defense
in the league and then after they lost the Patriots, they had
the second best defense in the league behind the Seahawks.
I noticed the narrative kind of shifted there, but I would say
them and the Seahawks were kind of the Tier 1 defenses this
year. And so, you know, to have a
pretty up and down game there with pretty poor pass blocking
didn't didn't bug me. The Broncos game, I hope the
Blizzard was really Blizzarding because they like they were
playing for three and outs at the end of that game.
I mean, even the game-winning, you know, run that that May had
apparently called his own number.
They were going to just run right up the gut, which is
cowardly and frustrating, you know, and and doesn't show a ton
of faith in in May. So that game was definitely way
more of a bummer to me than the Texans game.
Obviously there were there were conditions that were a factor
there, but they seem content to be like, we're just going to bet
that Jared Stidham can't score and we're not going to risk any
errors. So that felt like a game of a
second year quarterback in the AFC championship game as opposed
to, you know, an MVP contender in the AFC championship game for
sure, which which was a bummer. But I mean, ultimately, like I
drafted a ton of Drake may play a best ball.
We recommended people doing that.
If you got to the Super Bowl and you have Drake may, you've got a
quarterback live in the Super Bowl.
So that's that's ultimately the goal.
Hopefully if he like, if he has a big Super Bowl, I'm going to
feel great about this playoff run because my guy made the
Super Bowl. What do you guys think about?
I feel, I mean, as far as all the players who made it live to
the Super Bowl, I mean, Henderson was clearly the most
overdrafted relative to his. Yeah, for sure.
Eventual role and you guys said he's still going like top 50 in
2026 drafts. Like what is your take on this
Henderson usage through the playoffs?
They don't like him. They don't trust him.
Romandre's been better. We'll we'll definitely like it's
one of those things that is certainly subject to change.
I'm sure the team did not think over Mandre is going to come
back and have the best 6 game stretch of his entire life,
including at Oklahoma, but he has right so.
I I. I, I take both of them kind of
where where they're going now. Like, don't you just, I feel
like the thing that was so weird is I always have that play from
the preseason stuck in my head where he caught that wheel route
and it was like, oh man, this is how they're gonna use him.
They're gonna get him out in space, get him the ball, let him
catch balls, make people miss. And they just they turned him
into an interior rusher. That's his role on the team as a
change of pace. Interior rusher for Romandre
just seems really bizarre to me. Yeah, I mean, I think part of
what's happening is that they just played the Texans defense
and the Broncos defense, 2 very strong defenses, one of which in
a Blizzard. And we just, you know, they they
were very conservative in both games.
And I think part of that's going to be leaning on Romandre
Stevenson. Like it doesn't make a ton of if
you're, if you're going to try to like keep the chains moving
with the run. That's such a strong fit for
Romandre Stevenson compared to rookie Trevion Henderson.
I I think the fact that they are willing to use Henderson as a
traditional runner is not a bad thing.
When we think through like what his upside looks like in 2026,
especially down the stretch, Romandre will be there.
Romandre is under contract. He's due 7.6 million cap hit.
And they, you know, they're obviously they're going to keep
them. They don't even save any money
by cutting them. And, and they clearly like them.
They, they don't want to do that.
So they also have him under contract for 2027 with a $9.6
million cap hit. So he's he's probably there
again. But yeah, I mean, I think you're
still, you're still betting on Henderson to be the better
player down the stretch in 2026, in my opinion.
I'm happy to make that bet. He's looked really good at times
this year. I I get it like I this, these
are Ramandre games, you know, like they're leaning on their
Ramandre in the Ramandre games like totally fine.
And then they're we're not expecting much of from Henderson
in the Super Bowl, but Seattle has an elite run defense as
well. So ultimately the playoffs have
been a bit concerning. And when you think about like
what the floor is for Henderson, it's low.
You can basically back up running back next year, But I'm
willing to bet that that's, you know, a small percentage of the
outcomes. I guess, but it seems based on
his ADP there's like there's no discounts relative to this poor
playoff performance. No.
Yeah, but I mean, running backs are like we've talked about
running backs are going fairly high.
So it's not like, you know, he's the running back for, you know,
or whatever. What I what if it was the big if
it was basketball mania two years ago, he might be the
running back twelve with his current ADP.
He's the running back 18 and he's probably going to get
flipped by or no, he's he's going to he's actually behind.
We have him ranked running back 18, but he is actually behind
ETN and ADP so and he's about to get flipped by scataboo.
Maybe for running back 20. Harvey's just behind.
He could flip them too. So we we could be talking about
a guy who's outside the top 24 running backs.
If you know a couple guys get drafted high, or you know
Judkins, if we start to get positive news on him, he's only
a couple running backs in the top 24 guys right now.
All right, before we have Yosh come on here in a second, who is
your guys's favorite player at ADP right now in the big board?
Patrick Mahomes. He's the.
Quarterback 12 He's the quarterback 12 What he He was
just the quarterback 2IN points per game.
Yes, Yosh, apparently I should send you the link.
My bad, I thought I did. What about you, Pat?
I do really like Breece Hall right now.
He's a free agent. Playing all the.
Hits, yeah, both of you guys just absolutely playing the
hits. OK, let me give a I'll give a,
I'll give a serious answer. Well, I I did seriously believe.
That, I mean, that was a serious answer and it's a good answer.
I'll give you I'll give you 1 where you're your favorite
mainstream fantasy analyst is going to find this one in six to
eight business weeks. Adam Randall, Round 20 running
back selection. Converted receiver on.
It. Yeah, yeah, Pat knows.
Pat knows. Yeah.
It's really, really good stuff. Converted Converted converted
wide receiver to full Workhorse Not Not the Broussard Smith.
Not the Antonio Gibson. Converted wide receiver with 60
receptions his first three seasons to full on 2025 touches
per game workhorse for Clemson. OK.
All right. There, I'll throw out Jaden
Daniels as well as his second. Second, Daniels is a good one.
He's going at 72. Yeah, I was just going to say
Pat, if come like a December ship cast and Adam Randall is
crushing and you've done an entire, you know, offseason of
content about him and you try to call receipts on Adam Randall
being your guy. Davis is going to go back to
this stream and we're going to roll back the tape.
But Davis will have said his name first.
Well, let. Me.
Say it for Pastori I love Adam Randall.
I love Adam. Randall.
Well, do you want to know a funny thing that is going to
limit Adam Randall from being too much of A hype sleeper?
His name's Adam fucking Randall. It's not his name.
His name is not by Shell Tooton. His name is not something cool.
His name is Adam Randall. Is he at least pigeon, toad or
anything cool like that? I mean, I think he's kind of
big. OK, Yeah.
You're I I love that we're going to have to pay like a a foot,
you know, malfunction premium going forward just cuz we're
going to map it on to Harold fan in success.
Yeah, dude, Adam Randall's Clemson listed weight, and this
might be high, is 235. South Randall is your guy.
Not my guy. I haven't been.
I've been a little bit cautious on Randall cuz he's like, I'm
like, does he get the does he get the draft capital is day
three draft capital type of guy? So I've been I kind of want to
see him land somewhere that he has like a path, but I'm he's
definitely intriguing. He's definitely intriguing, but
I won't, I won't be fighting you in in October about who's that
who's call Adam Randall was. So Adam Randall here, Pete, we
can do we? Could all right, but we do have
Yosh here, so we can bring the table or bring Yoshin.
Bring Yoshin. All right, welcoming to the
stage. You're 2025 Eliminator champ,
200 K richer. Welcome to the show, Purple
Yosh. What is up guys?
I I see my Yosh's are actually pretty clear in the background
here, so we're off to a good start.
What is up? Thank you for having me.
This is This is awesome. No, man, how?
What's it? What's it been like?
You obviously had the the crazy sweat, the progressive sweat of
each week mattering so much down there, but now you've gotten to
exhale, enjoy the winnings. Have you been celebrating?
Man, I don't think I really like know how to celebrate this, this
money, honestly. Like I I do have a wedding
coming up that that was the the best thing of like, OK, so that
the financial stress of that is obviously greatly reduced.
But yeah, I mean, like, door dashing back-to-back days is
like my idea of like I'm like, yes.
I I get it man, that's sounds scary.
I'm like, but it's, it's so funny, like we always eat and me
and my fiance go out to eat and stuff like that.
I'm like, I'm like, this isn't like this is our version of like
we're living so large and, and, and stuff like that.
So, you know, got a lot of loans, student loans for law
school. We're, yeah, we're crazy.
So, you know, but I don't know exactly what I'm going to do
about all that. But it's fun.
But it hasn't really sunk in yet, to be honest, I don't
think. 2200 K is like a really ideal amount of money to win
because the expectation is not oh, my life doesn't change.
Like I don't, I don't move. I don't move to San Diego.
You know, I don't, I don't get AI don't get a nightmare.
It's nice here I'll just. Say just just just big, big
things we're talking about here like no, nobody in particular
just something start a website you.
Know yeah, like you're just like my life just kind of like got a
little bit easier you know it's it's kind of it's kind of.
I'm going to play tennis tomorrow, by the way, just just
saying I'm. I'm sneezing right now like I I.
But you're not going to, you're not going to start beat
eliminator.com. You know, I just, I don't, I
don't think so. And it was funny, you know,
shout out to shout out to Emo Cowboy, because I went on the
toxic Tower and talked about it and at the end they were like,
yeah, you know, stream or whatever.
I'm like, I'm like, man, you guys don't have to worry about
that. Like I'm not.
I tried streaming some like video games a little bit when I
got like a good computer and stuff and it was like a flash in
the pan for me. I like, I just didn't really
enjoy it as much as I thought I would.
But I like, you know, hopping on here and talking to you guys.
So. But I'm not, I'm not starting
any anything obviously. How many refresh our memory?
How many eliminator teams did you did you draft?
Oh, I maxed it. It was it was my big thing.
Like when that when the new format got released and everyone
was hyped about it, I was definitely right there along
with everybody. And I decided pretty early on
that because so this is my third year playing best ball like like
pretty seriously. It's only the IT was only the
second year that it was legal in Michigan.
So my first year was on DK but I had about $2000 or so that I was
going to play with and the first year I did it was mostly like
the chihuahuas, the puppy, like just anything cheap.
I didn't do any. Like the only Best Ball Mania
team I had the first year was one with Emo and Tom from
Fantasy Sanctuary. And then this year my only share
of Best Ball Mania was the group Bash that was like destined for
us to all split $2,000,000 right up until Daniel Jones tanked JT.
Then who was the other big? I mean, I guess Gibbs kind of
started at the end. Greece.
Yeah, it was a good team JSN. So so I was always doing cheap
stuff, but when that got released, I was, you know, I'm
going to Max this and then I'll do small field like I did Husk.
I did some Huskies, you know, a little bit higher buy in, but
smaller field. I didn't do nearly as much of
the $3 and $5.00, but I was like, I'm going to focus on
eliminator. I'm going to Max it.
And I like planned out how I wanted to approach it and
everything but but no, I definitely maxed it and it
worked out. Nice.
That's incredible, dude. It's always nice too.
I mean, I feel like both stories are fun.
You know, someone tosses one entry in and you know, banks
something. But it's also nice when a
grinder who has developed a plan, you know, set aside the
bankroll, executed it, and then is rewarded for it.
That's very cool. Yeah, and it it, it, it felt
good because I mean, I was even to like my fiance.
He was just like, I'm just no real concern for it, but I would
just, or anyone who would let you know, I'll be in chat, you
know? Obviously.
I'm in chats and I'm just like, no, man, I'm doing eliminator is
my thing. I'm going to do like anytime
like we're talking about players.
I would just be like, Oh, I look so and so for eliminate, like I
was that person like because I just like it was all I was
really thinking about and it was weird because even though I'm
like consuming the content all the time, I really tried.
I wanted to do as many. Oh, of course, I'm I'm going to
pull a shady and have my cat show up.
Apparently. Oh, I love it.
But I wanted to do as many of them as late as I could and I
wanted to do them in fast drafts because I wanted, I thought it
was more likely that people make mistakes in the fast drafts.
Oh my God, I knew this would happen, but I was I kind of
regretted that at one point because there was this cool,
there was this nice window for slow drafts where like Jalen
Coker was hurt and then he wasn't.
And I was taking look at it for the week 14 by but then Coker
was the better, you know, and I kind of was kicking myself
because there was like a week there where I was like, Oh, this
is feeling too fast. And I was doing like 20 or 30
fast a day And and like, because I wanted, because it's like cash
game. Like I don't play cash like or I
never did. But I was like, you know, I
think it's better to have the most information possible.
So I would trickle in some slows and I have this, I changed the
names of the teams as we were as the season was progressing.
I think the team that won was actually a slow draft because I
remember seeing it come together and being like, oh, OK.
But most of mine were fast and all sort of toward the end of
the drafting window. So I don't know if I'll do it
exactly like that. I think there was some benefit.
I just have like the one day a week I go into the office, I
don't have Internet, so it's so it's slow drafts.
There's like this one day a week where I'm like having to, you
know, star people and stuff like that.
So, but but we'll see how I do it.
I don't know if I'll do it exactly like that because I
remember being like jealous of Nez and some people who are
like. Oh, I just got Jayla.
Coker right now and it's like he's going to be back and stuff
like that. I'm like.
Ha ha, I'm just. Sitting here like slamming
league at cuz he's got a horse like what am I doing?
Did you, do you like, when did this team kind of bubble up for
you? As far as I was curious, like
when did you start to sweat this team?
Yeah. So it's it's funny, so pretty
early on, because I remember at at some point I named it fun
team needs Brock because Brock had the toe thing.
And this team actually survived in week 8 without a quarterback
because Russell Wilson had been benched, I thought.
And Russell Wilson did have like that one or two blow up weeks
super early on. Yep, but Matthew Stafford having
the MVP caliber. We don't need to debate that.
You know, truce pad. I don't I don't really care at
this point, but but Matthew Stafford carried it because
Brock Brock was hurt and Russ. I was thinking Russ would get
benched like week 10. I didn't think he would just get
pinched like week 4, but week 8 was the by Mageddon.
So the whoever I went up against, they had so many by
weeks and I did a really good job on this team of like not
having almost any overlapping by weeks, except for like I think I
had two quarterbacks technically who are week 14.
And then I had a skinny with Jawan Jennings.
But yeah, so so sometime really early on, but I knew I wanted
Brock to come back for week 8. So I was sweating that and he
didn't come back and I was like, I'm I'm dead.
And then I but week 8 was so crazy with the amount of buys
and people I don't think did a good enough job of like you
really like stacking week 14 is, is the only real like if you're
going to stack up by week, stack up week 14.
Still make sure you have enough to get that to get past it
because you still want to win. But I think I don't think people
took seriously enough. Like no, like you have like 3 or
4 players on like the same by week.
It can really kill you unless you unless you have a nice spike
week, which is you know, the name of the game too.
So. And you you had a stretch where
your team was obviously pretty dominant and in your head to
heads like probably favored to win most weeks.
But then you get to that finals and that other team and I'm
blanking on the username, but wasn't he projected to win had
the had the better team, at least on paper?
Yeah, for sure. And and I was like now I I'm now
I'm saying I was reverse jinxing.
I was in the reverse jinx minds. But like for weeks I was like,
I'm never going to win. This guy has the because I kept
seeing his team when I would go on.
You, you were big on the reverse Jinx for the team that you were
against in the final. You were in the discord like,
Nah, this guy's a monster. Like, we're just happy to be
here. It was like.
Yeah, that's how I feel about Mango, you know, that that that
team's just sad. But but yeah, and but I mean it,
it's just crazy. I mean, especially with with,
you know, shout out BDI mean his.
It's crazy to see the amount of times where I was like a big
underdog and it doesn't take that much to really to really
win. And the other thing that's crazy
is I had so I had two, two teams get to week 14 and the team that
lost in week 14 because it had a couple too many week 14 buys.
It would have destroyed my team that one and the other,
obviously the other two that I beat like it, it scored like 170
in the week 17. It was like Derrick Henry, Trey
McBride, a bunch of random receivers who didn't do anything
all year went nuts. It had Hendo, it had I think it
had Drake May, it had definitely had Drake May.
So I went and did the math on that.
I was like, oh, man, I would have blown myself out by 40
points if I had somehow, if I had had the dream of the other
dream of, you know, you face yourself in the elim finals,
which was on the table there for way longer than you'd think, I
guess. That's crazy.
Yeah, the I remember in your team too.
I feel like Michael Wilson was just such a massive piece of of
your team there for a while. Yeah, and the cool thing about
the Michael Wilson thing is so one of the pro sciency things I
did for the Eliminator is I really focused on the schedule.
And I had like John from Badge Bros posted like this whole
schedule grid and I was looking at like chunks of the schedule.
And even though obviously we can't predict defenses, we can't
really predict game environments, but you can make
an educated guess like you can you can look at a game between
and I guess the Browns isn't a good example because there was
that one week 17 where they went nuts.
But like you look at you can look at certain games games and
say for DFS in that game environment, you're not going to
be excited. And then you can look at other
other games and and think, OK, you're probably going to be more
excited. So I tried to find, first of
all, just teams where were teams that kept popping up with like,
oh, that's a good game environment.
Oh, that's a, you know, maybe they had an easy schedule,
whatever. And Arizona was this team that
like, I also broke it down by quarters of the schedule because
it was like, OK, maybe this group of teams will do well in
the first part, but then you need to kind of pass the baton
to another group of players or teams and then so on and so
forth. The team that kept popping up in
in multiple different windows was Arizona and I was one of
them. And I didn't really love Kyler.
I didn't really care that much about stacking obviously in the
eliminator, But Wilson was free and I'm like, OK, so a lot like
half of us think Marvin Harrison sucks.
Your best receiver is Trey McBride.
This is just a wider. They didn't draft anybody.
There's no exciting rookie. There's no like, you know, shot
out short king Greg Dorch, but like he's not going to be the
man. So like like, so this guy's just
a wide receiver too on a team that we think they're probably
not going to be a good team, but they're probably going to score
points and like Dick around and like, and he's just free like
just a wide receiver to. Do the round is a pretty perfect
I. Was going to say.
They did. A lot.
Of that's exactly what they did. And now did I expect him to,
like be, you know, actual Jerry Rice?
Like, no. And it was like every time I was
like, OK, it's over. It's the Michael Wilson
experience. He's done enough.
It's just like, Oh no buddy, here he goes catching him.
Like he was amazing. So but then that's also why I
didn't have Tyler because it wasn't like I was trying to
initially stack it up. It's just like you get later in
the draft. I'm just like, just give me one
offs that are going to be in these weird game environments.
Like, and I, you know, remembered like a couple years
ago, he randomly caught 2 touchdowns against San
Francisco. And one of the things, sorry,
I'm rambling on a little bit, but one of the things about
about Eliminator that I thought maybe people were overcorrecting
4 was like, oh, you just want floor guys.
It's like, no, you, you beat a guy in a one-on-one.
Like if you can just beat a guy with like 2 spike weeks, that's
amazing. Like you can do that.
So I didn't really care that Michael Wilson was probably
going to be a bad floor play again, forgetting that or not
knowing he'd become Jerry Rice would be a good floor play.
I was more like, give me two weeks where he catches 2 random
touchdowns and that could be that could just be enough to win
me that week. All things I was considered.
What it It's also a good reason for why mixing up the formats
you play is so helpful, because so many of our Michael Wilson
shares and like BBM and the traditional contest, were
tethered to Kyler Murray and those teams.
Were all. Effectively dead, but then you
get the eliminator format where like you said, the stacking is
almost a a bug instead of a feature.
Pushes you off of that and you can get siloed.
Michael Wilson, That's pretty cool.
That is cool. Yeah.
Well dude, incredible stuff. Had so much fun tracking that
throughout the year and I'm so glad you were able to to come on
here. I guess I do have to ask, you
mentioned making a few splurge purchases.
Have you kept the 200,000 in your account like I once
admonished Pat for for taking the 2,000,000 out of his
underdog account? You know, sadly not.
I do have a a bigger chunk than I should still on there because
like there was a weird thing with the withdrawal process.
So I have it going to like my old bank and I'm having to like
cycle it to my current it's So there's no there's no point for
me to even withdraw the rest of it out because it's going to
take me like literally like 2 weeks or whatever to But and I
also, but before I go, I want to shout out your guys's guy, Zach.
He's working on a little compilation like just for me to
remember this experience by because it was really awesome.
Like between you and Davis and the badge Bros, like, you know,
I kind of dug myself a hole because like by the time I was
getting far at all, I was like every week I was like gifting a
ton of memberships and dropping super chats.
And then like I keep winning and I was like, well, I can't mix it
up now. So I like probably spent like
like a 2% tip. I don't know if it's that much,
but like I, I spent a lot of money on that stuff.
But but I'm gonna I'm paying Zach to do a little compilation
just so I can like remember like of all the different times, it
was like, oh, it's still alive and all this other like all the
comments from the streams and stuff and it's cool.
That'll be like just fun to remember and then.
Zach, Zach knew you had just come into some money too, so his
dates went up as well. So, you know, that's what that's
that I, I accept that he does incredible stuff.
Well, Yosh, it doesn't sound like you have a beat.
eliminator.com to plug. Anything else you'd like people
to check out here before we bring on Gobbler?
I, I don't think so. You know, everybody who's here
watches all the people that I, you know, support and love.
You guys are the best. And, you know, I'm just glad to
be a long time member of the, the community.
So thank you guys. Appreciate you man.
Good luck. Thanks for coming on man.
Upcoming wedding and getting all your funds off of a underdog
there. All right, the Champions tour
continues with the marathon champion.
It is gobbler. You know I'm from the ship
chasing discord. Welcome to the show, man.
Hey guys what's going on? As you can tell I've been using
the the marathon part and just like hiding the fantasy football
part and telling people I want a marathon.
Very confused looks. That is, yeah.
Deb, you told people in your in your real life about this.
I assume they're the ones who are very confused.
I've told a couple people but for the most part I just kind of
kept it to myself so far. I, I told one person I worked
with and I was like, keep this on the download.
Don't, don't be going around telling people because I think
Ray's time is coming up in a few months.
I don't need that. You need to leverage anything.
That's right. And I feel like, I mean your
sweat's just so different than even the yo sweat.
Like at what point did you enter the the pole position?
Because I know for like the past couple weeks you were sitting
pretty good, right? Yeah.
So what's, what's wild about it is about midway through the
season, I didn't, I had maybe one team in the top 500 and it
wasn't even this team. And then it was the Kyle Pitts
blow up game that shot me up. Like so it was, it was kind of
like maybe I can't even remember what week it was.
It's like weeks 8-9. I started to see a climb and I
started to get a couple more through and, and every week it
was something like, OK, well, if I can get a team in the top 100,
that'll be good. Or well, maybe I can get into
the top 50, that'd be cool. And then I I just kept creeping
up a little bit. And then that Kyle Pitts game
happened when everybody was getting mad because I'm the only
person that got even on Kyle Pitts in the career.
How many of us is such a marathon ass pick?
My God. Oh for sure.
And so yeah, that Kyle Pitts game launched me up to to a
really good like top 20 thing. And then he ran hot a couple
more times, but it was just it was kind of the sick combo of
players that just hit at the right time.
Really when it came down to it, it just every time that I needed
something from somebody, they got it.
Like if it was one of those bottom 3 receivers, Michael
Wilson, Dobbs, even Wandale, well, especially Wandale, really
like when there are my top guys weren't weren't delivering.
Those guys are stepping up in the right weeks.
So it was just the combination just magically worked.
Well, I mean, even looking back on these, I mean, you got
obviously massive seasons out of those top three wide receivers,
Amanrat, JSN, Pickens. But then yeah, the back end
guys, I guess Wilson was dominant for a stretch, but the
Noel Robinson, Dobbs, you probably just ping pong those
perfectly. Yeah, I think that that's
exactly what happened. They just kind of hit it the
right weeks because it's one of those things if I you would have
shown this team to me like I drafted a bunch of teams.
I only got 90 into the marathon because famously in the ship
chasing discord, I've been really anti marathon and some of
these other contests for a while.
And then this year I was like, yeah, I'm going to do the
marathon. And then I started chasing
overlay at the end. Just couldn't get there.
So I didn't even have a, a full amount in here and I really
wasn't even focusing too much on it.
I used the sidekick and most of the time was just taking
whatever the sidekick was saying on this one because it was it
was literally not a contest I was thinking too much about.
I was more interested in basketball Mania and some of the
other ones. So it was just it was one of
those things where this one just worked out perfectly.
And if you would have showed me this team, I would have said
this. This team is nothing like at the
beginning of the season. And I think that that's the
biggest lesson I've learned from this one is like, sometimes it's
the unsexy guys that that really like pop for you and get you
going. And not to say that didn't have
some of the league winners in there, but I'm battling with a
lot of Jonathan Taylor and Gibbs and Jonathan Taylor and Gibbs
together teams thinking, you know, there's no way I can have
the firepower to go against that.
And somehow, you know, it pulled together and pulled up there.
That's awesome. So even in the marathon, the
playoff week still do matter, apparently is, I guess what
we've learned there. Yeah, it kind of does.
Well, it's it's actually sick though Cobbler because in the
past the marathons have been done and dusted by by week 17.
Like there there was no sweat. The guy who won drafters 2 years
ago didn't have a quarterback for the final three weeks of the
season and won by over 100 points.
Like it like a lot of the times there, there's like no sweat.
So it is pretty sick that you really.
Got a sweat? Yeah, that is crazy.
And it makes sense too, right, in that, like the J, the
dominance of JT really petered off after what, like Week 11 or
so. So it makes sense that a team
could chase him down. Yeah, that was the the thing
that that really opened up the door for me is JT just stopped
putting up those weeks that he was doing.
And then for some reason the Lions decided they didn't want
to use Gibbs as much down the stretch or they just couldn't,
you know, either way. So those two guys just like
hitting the brakes. That's what opened up the door
for me right there because I thought there was no way I was
chasing down any of this. So yeah, I this is the first
year I've played like a cumulative tournament, so I
didn't even know that or else I would have felt even more
hopeless at the five weeks ago. It's interesting too, because
JSN actually slowed down too. I mean, he was kind of one of
those guys early in the year that's like truly unstoppable
and then wasn't bad at the end of the year, but he wasn't
dominant in that way. So even there you, you kind of,
you know, fell victim to that same kind of JT dynamic, but you
had pits coming on and some other guys scoring points down
the stretch. Yeah, it it seemed like every
time somebody was like, you know, letting go of the rope a
little bit, somebody else was picking it up.
Is is really what this lineup was doing every week it seemed
like? So then once you are into first,
because you were there for a couple of weeks, was the anti
sweat pretty brutal? Were you combing through rosters
and figuring out what you needed to fade each week?
So I, I tried to keep calm. I think I was up there for four
weeks, so it was a little bit longer.
I so I at first, the first week I was like, all right, you're
not going to stay here. So don't get used to this.
And then the, the next week I stayed there and I was like, OK,
well, you're probably not going to stay here, so don't get your
hopes too much. And then by the next week when I
was still up there, I was building a spreadsheet, looking
at everybody behind me, sharing it with SAC and Discord and, and
just saying, hey, man, I think I actually have a shot here.
And, and Zach was sitting there congratulating me two weeks out
and I'm like, no, not yet, man. Too much can happen here.
That's that's classic. Zach sent us a message in
Discord halfway through the Green Bay game and, you know,
everyone knows we're in the Packers and he's like, looking
pretty good for the scientists. So it's his fault, OK?
It's his. Fault.
Well, it worked out this time. We were ready.
Yeah. Well, he did.
He did ask me like the the final week when I was still just a
little bit nervous. It was looking good going into
Sunday night. And he asked, can I, can I
congratulate you in the Discord? And I was like, yeah, go ahead.
I guess I'm still a little nervous.
You. Know could you wait like a
little longer? Well, you know, there there was,
there was a few things that could have popped.
There's a guy right behind me that just had a little bit more
left, but it would have been like an insane like 60 point
game at the end from somebody. And I was just like, you know,
if there was going to be history made, this would make sense to
happen right now. So I'm still a little nervous.
For sure, Zach knew there was a small chance he could jinx you,
but he also knew it was time to market the sidekick for playoff
basketball anyway. Right, I'm pretty sure the guy
behind me was also a a possible user, at least so I think he
was. Well, let's see if he has
Tooting in. Noel that that.
That'd be a pretty big giveaway. There you go.
Yeah. That's that's and I know where.
Is is wondering if we maybe we should change his name to Mush
Religious Mush religiousness. Which is ironic because I know
Zach is very team don't mush things, especially being a
showdown DFS pro where things can change very quickly.
So if anyone knows the rules it it should be Zach.
He got mushed earlier this year too in the discord.
I I won't out who did it, but somebody was congratulating him
and, and halfway through a fourth quarter.
And so, yeah, it didn't work out too well.
So he knows. He knows for sure.
Yeah, this team in second, like has so many more of the players
who were like big early on, like QJ was a big Q1 guy, obviously,
Taylor, some random. I mean, you have a Sean Tucker,
Brashard, Smith team here in second.
That's pretty crazy. Yeah, I, I think that just goes
to show how wild a year it was as far as like injuries threw
off so much and, and I don't think there was anybody that
sustained like front to back. I mean even JSN had some down
weeks towards the end. So I, you know, I just think it
was just a really different year.
I don't know if there was anybody that truly dominated
like and didn't stop dominating. Were you, I know you, you you
said you didn't get to Max this one, but you, you drafted a shit
ton of teams on on underdog this year, right?
Are you up there with the Davis Maddox of the world?
Yeah, usually AM. The past few years things have
been very good to me. Over the past few years I've
I've I've been profitable and and so I'm.
Just just be nice, brother. Get that, night nurse.
Haven't been that profitable. The reason I'm coming on here is
just to get some of that magic peak dust so that BBM works a
little bit. Better.
Yeah, there you. All sprinkle it down.
I think I'm, I'm claiming it honestly, I I'm trying to, I'm,
I'm keeping as much of the dust as is out there.
Davis is very polite, You know, he let us all kind of go first
in line there. For most people I just need a
sprinkle, For Davis I just need like a snow blower's.
T-shirt gun I need a T-shirt gun for Pete Dust.
Well that, that's awesome. So I I assume now after winning
the marathon you're going to have to 150, Max that and fully
defend the crown. I I think that it is a
tournament that's going to have to be part of My Portfolio from
here on out, probably if they don't get rid of it, because I
think it overlaid this year too. So we'll see what they do to it,
you know, next year. But yeah, I mean, after this
experience, I I can't let it go. Got to, got to try to do it
again. That's right, that's right.
Are are you already in the the big board streets or you taking
a breather? I drafted 2 and the sidekick
kept wanting me to take Alvin Kamara and I thought, well, you
know, let's give this a little time and see what happens.
You're going to let the bug fixes work itself out.
All right, how much, how much money do you think the Saints
save by cutting out Alvin Kamara after the OR, you know, this
year, this offseason, how much do you think they save?
28 million. None.
They don't say the single. Cent I don't think that's, I
don't know if that's the argument you're making that you
think it is, because I think they were happy to just not play
him last year. They shut him down for we have
listen this like we. It's accounted for in The Sims
it. Is it is we're like pretty
basically what I, what I think he is, is kind of like this
year's Echoler or it's like pass catching guy who's completely
free and he helps you do some other stuff, you know, like you.
Like, see that? Yeah, I The thing is, I've been
fading Camara since Herzig won BBM 1.
So right, right. It's just I can't start taking
him. Down in the DNA.
It's my brand. No, I feel yeah, I mean, it's
not, it's not one where but as we were kind of even before we
ran The Sims and we were kind of had all the inputs and we were
like checking everything. I was like, we're going to end
up like an almond Camara. You know, after this experience,
I think I'm I'm starting to just trust you guys a little bit
more. That's that's one thing I've
been trying to do the like the last few years has just learned
that like I need to dial back the opinions a little bit and
just be a little bit more open to players that I don't like.
I mean. Did you hear that, David?
Did you hear what he just said? I sure did.
Yeah, the. That's.
God, did you say you can't read? Oh.
Man, there you go. I love that.
Just a really positive human note to end on of just surrender
yourself to our SIM overlords and have no thinking for
ourselves. No, I love it.
Yeah, you said you're you're running pure in everything.
You're a you're an OKC fan too, right?
You've had a nice run there as well.
Yeah, OK, see season ticket holder too.
So I got to go to the finals last year.
So yeah, it's been an amazing year.
And actually one of my best BBM teams was I drafted the night
they won the championship as because I couldn't go to sleep.
So I had it there was the only one I named in the whole thing.
You've given up. You've given up Hartenstein and
Dortz and seven years of first round picks for Giannis or we
calling it good. No, no, you, you, you got to
keep this team intact, right? Now imagine Giannis playing
center in this lineup, dude. That's all I'm saying.
I I, I understand, but like there's just this, this team has
got so much depth right now that it can handle as many injuries
as it has as it has and still be a pretty decent team.
You you make that trade and you give up that future you're.
You're just like you're opening yourself up to an injury, just
killing you. I think the last time we had
hoops talk on ship chasing was when Gretch accused Pat and I of
having top shot brain and not listening to him talk about
football. I think that's actually what
brought me into you guys, by the way.
It was top shot. I was trying to think back of
when I started watching the show as around that day.
Yeah. Well, I'm glad you know
eventually got profitable. Do you guys ever sell that
cosmic Zion? Nope.
Still. Waiting for the right.
Time. I do want to shout out a few
things here. Yosh continuing to pay the the
thank you tax. Clearly beards are the key to
winning in 2025. Thank you Yosh.
And then Mack Nova we wanted to have on but his corporate
overlords have a muzzle on him. Apparently Mack Nova, who took
down second place in that big DK Millie for Cool Millie was also
part of that huge Bijon Robinson sweat experience that Sam was
experiencing on the other side. So thank you Mac Nova for this
tip and of course Sam. I tagged Sam and and let him
know when we were doing this, but I think his 3 1/2 hour sweat
show was was he called himself but on the of the victory laps.
You know what, Sam? Sam messaged me the other day
and he said First off he's sick, where he said he would have
joined to my opening big board. Stream if it.
Would it would have not been during the Patriots game and I
was just like, you know what, do you really deserve this in the
same year, $2,000,000 and you're fucking idiot Patriots going to
the Super Bowl same year. I don't know man.
I don't know be. Careful, because they're Pats,
idiots, patriots. Now, no, the, the, the page I
like, you know, obviously I'm rooting for the Patriots because
of Drake May, which is, but I also understand that that sucks,
you know, and that like the Patriots, the, the fans, they
had like 3 years off of not being a dynasty, you know, not
going to Super Bowls all the time.
And then they just go right back to the Super Bowl.
I, I see it, I know it sucks. I'm also rooting for it to
happen. You, I don't think you need to.
You don't need to bag defend Drake May in the Super Bowl like
you already won that bag defending exercise like he can
lose. I'm not bag defending.
I'm live. I'm live in the Super Bowl with
a play a baseball team that has Drake May.
I heard. You and the team I'm going
against doesn't, I heard. You were blocked by by Mango,
Yeah. I'm not fully blocked.
I've got I've got May he I don't think he has May or does he have
May? He might actually have May, but
I've got pieces from May that I kind of need May to be optimal.
Not, not Darnold. I think that's what it is, yeah.
Well, we all hope you run pure wink wink.
Thanks buddy. Yeah.
Really appreciate it. Any anything else for for you
guys? It was just a massive year for
for ship chasers. I mean, you know, normally
there's a lot of things to celebrate, but to literally have
multi million dollar wins, multiple people take down huge
contest on underdog. Pretty sick here.
I, I've been trying to get people to understand, to feel
better about the, the way they performed this year in our
Discord by saying together we won over $3,000,000.
If you add it all up, it's, you know, unfortunately the
distribution wasn't quite what you wanted, but we were very
successful. Yeah, it's.
Mom, mom, Donnie's America, That'd be equally distributed.
Yeah, I think you what you just proposed was kind of like a ship
chasing Co-op commune type set up.
Should everyone just send their kind of mortgages and their
bills to you and you'll help cover?
That I, I think there's a couple other options that might be able
to handle that a little bit more than me.
But you know, we can, we can retroactively see if they want
to do a split. You know, we just put our, our,
our pool together and, and, and see what happens.
I don't know how that's going to shake out.
If that's going to get me more, maybe, who knows.
Yes, depends who you're splitting with.
You need you need Sam to to opt in.
Well, it's really just Sam and Mac is what I was.
Really. Yeah, right.
That's true, yeah. You're, you're even OK with that
if if those guys opt in? Yeah, exactly.
They get in there, we'll do an even split.
Seems completely fair to me. Someone was asking earlier about
ADP chasing I believe. Are you guys going to be back
Tuesday? That maybe?
It might be. I think with the the timing, we
need to figure out the new timing for the offseason.
So as far as like literally what time of day we record but.
Yes, I yeah, I don't want to be wrong on it, but I believe
should be back Tuesday, but probably at a different time.
We'll we'll firm that up and announce that as far as the the
Thursday ship chasing show probably will take a couple more
weeks off and then we'll get kind of like back in a rhythm of
switching to Thursday afternoons now that the the ship cast is
done on Sundays. But you can join us in the
discord. The links down below.
If you want to join the deposit Kingdom discord, you become a
YouTube member. You can join Gobblore, Mac Nova,
Sam Sherm and Yosh, all the other big wigs and they're just
swinging their money around just flashing it at the left and
right now it is a it is a fun place to to hang out.
But Pat Davis any other things here leg up ranks Davis streams.
What do you got? We're we're going to be doing
some dynasty stuff I think reasonably soon.
I know people are asking about me, Davis and Jacob getting back
on doing some dynasty stuff, so I want to talk some rookies.
Pretty soon I'm gonna have a list of guys that are my guys,
and then Davis is gonna have a list of guys that are Davis's
guys, just for posterity so we don't have to argue about it
later. I'm outsourcing it all to the
Clankers. I have a model now.
It's done, not built. Wow, spent two weeks in Claude
Code deep. I even learned a little bit of
coding to figure out what did it right.
Is this the slot model? This is the slot model, yeah.
You can call it the statistical likelihood of achieving
production, or seals, learning about prospects, whichever,
whichever you prefer, either either of those works.
The statistical likelihood of achieving production is pretty
good. You know, it is the thing that
all slaps wrestle with there. All right, good stuff.
Thank you again to Gobbler, Yosh, Nova Sherman, all the ship
chasers. You guys rock and I just want it
on the record before the the outro.
I absolutely love Adam Randall in drafts right now.