1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,280 We are long overdue for our annual Winner's Circle episode. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,920 So many people from the ship chasing community, not just Sam 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Sherman, so many others taking down big tournaments for big 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,160 prizes. We're going to talk to a couple 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,280 of them today on the stream, including the eliminator champ 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,880 Yosh and the marathon champ Gobbler. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,760 And before that, we're going to talk a little 202680 PA, little 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,440 playoff, best ball, All that good stuff. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:31,480 Ship chasing is back. Let's do it, Pat Fryer, Helmo 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,240 Anita. Hand job. 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Fix your sight. Jamar and Alpha play chase. 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,200 You. Can't handle the heat. 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,680 It looks like we're finally at this. 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Point you're right. All right, I think was the last 15 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,040 show on this channel, the Friday night show with Dink and Leone 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,960 before Wild Card weekend. Oh, you're muted again, Pat I. 17 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:07,040 Don't know why I was muted now. Yeah, I think it was. 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,160 I believe that's right. Well, we are back. 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,080 We, you know, we got to take our little hibernation to, you know, 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,320 rest up after playoff week. But yes, we got Davis here. 21 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,480 Pat. No, no Jacob, but hopefully 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,920 getting him back in the fold shortly. 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,880 How you doing, Davis? Doing great man. 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,600 I mean I'm just all the way locked in on 2026 best ball 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,120 drafts. Never never been more locked in 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,120 people. People are saying sidekick 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,680 launched. Realized halfway through my 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,640 first draft today that the sidekick in the corner of my 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,800 stream was giving me suggestions that I hadn't. 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Been. Been. 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,600 Seeing so that was that was nice. 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,480 Yeah, I'm. I'm locked. 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,000 In did a little little soft launch before the official 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,800 launch just to make sure things weren't weren't going to, you 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,200 know, be going crazy. So yeah, little benefit if you 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,920 kept it installed. Yeah, there you go. 37 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:01,760 Yeah. I mean, there's no such thing as 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,160 a soft launch if Davis is streaming big board draft. 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,280 That's kind of a hard launch, yeah. 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,400 Yeah, it's just going to pop up. No, it's funny because Dwayne 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,880 from Fantasy Life messaged me the other day and he's like, 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,240 hey, do you want to come on my show Friday and talk like early 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,360 Big board AT PS? And I'm like, I I haven't even 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,320 looked at it. And I just pointed him directly 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,080 in Davis's direct. I was going to say, I literally, 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,800 literally just got done recording with Dwayne, OK? 47 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:27,560 There you go. So I was like, I, I think you're 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,320 the only one in, of course, who are, have been diving in. 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,720 But yeah, what are what are some of your guys's early, early 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,560 reactions on, on the landscape? Are there any like big 51 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,080 corrections relative to what happened last year? 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,280 Yeah, people love running backs, man. 53 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Running, running. Like dude it running backs are 54 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,880 back. Yeah, I think running backs kind 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,680 of are back right now, especially like in this early 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,160 stretch. What I've noticed with the 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,960 Sidekick, cuz we're testing is like a lot of what we're 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,200 getting, we're getting a lot of hyper fragile builds. 59 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:04,880 You get a lot with like 3X running back starts or you go 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,080 like McBride in three running backs or Bowers in three running 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,880 backs or a receiver in three running backs. 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,640 Like I did JSN and then I think it was IKB debris, of course. 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,680 But yeah, second round pick, I forget some, you know, some 64 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,600 solid running back there. And then I took Henderson in the 65 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,840 4th and then you might tackle on like a, a Basil Tooten, of 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,520 course, you know, 8th or 9th. But then it's like you just kind 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,120 of hammer receivers. I think there's some really 68 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,800 mispriced receivers in like the 70 ish range, even in the 60s. 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:45,400 So the the running back class isn't particularly good. 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,160 And you know, there's a lot of uncertainty around running back. 71 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,560 So it it does make sense to kind of get some of those running 72 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,800 back points and then you can build with, with the way some 73 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,480 receivers are mispriced as well and the receiver class being 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,320 better for the rookies. Those builds are are pretty 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,080 strong. Not the only way to do it, but 76 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,840 but they're pretty strong. There you go. 77 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,080 What about you, Davis? What have you discovered through 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,160 your 46 Big Board drafts? I've discovered that the 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,600 sidekick is way more bullish on Alvin Kamara than I am, and I've 80 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,120 discovered that the general populace doesn't think Travis 81 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Kelsey is going to play football in 2026 for, for whatever 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,800 reason, given that there's been like no chatter about him 83 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,080 retiring, he said. I'm excited to see Eric be enemy 84 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,520 in the building. I don't. 85 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,280 It's just like ETR does not have Travis Kelsey in their rankings. 86 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,760 I I don't we. Get you'll get him on the 87 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:46,320 sidekick because we, we, we're kind of ahead of Mahomes. 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,400 So you get him at the end. I think there's some chance he 89 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,240 retires. I, I would say, I'd say he's 90 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,520 like -130 to play like, not a, not a lock, but like, yeah, I, I 91 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,960 would, I would say it's, I just feel like it's hard for like if 92 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,840 you're him, wouldn't it be the hard for you for the last snap 93 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:09,680 you played with Mahomes to be the snap where he tore his ACL 94 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,680 or the last snap you took in the NFL was quarterback by Crystal 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,840 Otakun. But if you're Travis Kelsey and 96 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:19,400 you're looking around the landscape of the AFC and you see 97 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,320 that the Bills just promoted Joe Brady, doesn't that you just, 98 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,400 you don't want to come back. I mean, they just kind of locked 99 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,160 it up. Yeah, Joe, Joe Brady. 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:32,840 Joe Brady just got promoted. You know, Bo Nicks and Bonex and 101 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:35,840 Sean Payton are arguing about Bonex's ankle surgery. 102 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:37,560 They, they're, they're not communicating. 103 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,440 So like all, all seems good. Yeah, Pat, you were. 104 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,360 You've been one of the most vocal people on ADP, chasing 105 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,080 episodes with rants about how the Bills were running their 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,000 offense. How excited are you about Joe 107 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,800 Brady's new vision for the future? 108 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,040 I'm bummed out, man. I kind of it. 109 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,240 It almost happened, you know, like they got that they did it 110 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,440 in the most incompetent way possible of, you know, the, the 111 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:08,360 regime change, they empowered this GM who, who's like hasn't 112 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,280 had any good picks in like 5 years outside of Josh Allen, 113 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:15,520 which is good, pretty good pick. But but you know, if you're 114 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,680 going to, if you're going to like go a new direction, you'd 115 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,960 think he'd be involved. And then it seemed clear like 116 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,560 part of the appeal of Brady is that they he would be 117 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,600 controllable by being, you know, they didn't want to like bring 118 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,520 in a coach who might have more power in the building and being 119 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,080 ultimately he didn't want to get he didn't want to get Joe shamed 120 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,280 by a Jim Harbaugh by a John Harbaugh. 121 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,440 Excuse me. So I think it's a bummer. 122 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,040 I mean, Brady's not like a total donkey. 123 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,240 He does some stuff. I some of the film guys like 124 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,960 Brady for, you know, there was a, a dude breaking out a play 125 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,680 sequencing. It seemed positive about it. 126 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,840 I wasn't impressed. You know, the video didn't 127 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:56,040 impress me, but whatever. And you know, some of the like 128 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,160 play design stuff is apparently pretty good. 129 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,840 But I just think from a high level perspective, if you're 130 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:02,960 running that much on 1st down, if you're running that much 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,600 overall, if you kind of have these like conservative game 132 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,720 plans where you're losing and you only score like 23 points to 133 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,480 like the Falcons or the Dolphins or whatever, like it's just 134 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,160 embarrassing. Like you, you have to, you have 135 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,400 to be able to put the ball in Josh Allen's hands and and say 136 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,360 when it's the game, we're not afraid of you throwing an 137 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,240 interception. And I'm not sure Brady is 138 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,320 mentally capable of doing that. I had to pull up. 139 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,600 The Bills had a photo of him. It is a new head coaching office 140 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:39,200 and it's like big Michael Scott like vibes in here exploring the 141 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,640 new space. He looks more like the IT guy to 142 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,640 be at this photo than the the new head coach of the Buffalo 143 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,640 Bills. He does look like the IT guy. 144 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:47,840 He. He. 145 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Doesn't he doesn't really look like a head coach, I I got to 146 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,160 say. I love the gold chade too, just 147 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,080 always really gets. Me, yeah. 148 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,200 With him. But yeah, Bill's Bill's good. 149 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,640 He. Looks like he's like I I feel 150 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,000 like I'm in high school right now and with, with Joe Brady 151 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,920 that's we're high school kids together. 152 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,720 Yeah, she's. Getting connected to the 153 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,680 Internet. I mean, look, this is the guy 154 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,920 that's going to get a bunch of Josh Allen fantasy points. 155 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Oh man. Oh man. 156 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Have any other like coaching hot stove moves move the needle for 157 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,840 you guys? It's going to be really hard to 158 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,280 draft Chargers players because everyone is so freaking frothy 159 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,520 about Mike McDaniel. Like, yeah, this'll this'll be 160 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,919 the guy, dude, don't worry. Don't worry, man. 161 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,640 Justin Herbert, quarterback 5. Sure do it. 162 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,200 Good idea everybody. Go for it. 163 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,880 You got you. You find any opportunity to shit 164 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,240 on Justin Herbert, I could sneeze and you'd find a way to 165 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,440 talk about. He's drafted 20 spots ahead of 166 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,840 Jalen Hertz. It's not even. 167 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,520 It's just not. Real. 168 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Yeah, the Hertz AD PS doesn't make any sense. 169 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,400 Hertz and Daniels are very, very cheap. 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:05,080 Yeah, well, what a Speaking of expensive quarterbacks, where 171 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,920 Pat, where did you end up falling on? 172 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,200 Do you have to owe Caleb an apology after that sick throw in 173 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,760 the divisional round or still? I don't know. 174 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,840 I mean, I think like Caleb, I would say has moved up a notch. 175 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,240 You know, I was saying he's a six. 176 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,560 Davis is saying he's a seven. I think Davis is right that he's 177 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:23,480 that he is A7. So I'll give him that apology. 178 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,760 Yeah, I'll give. Him that well I mean I mean 179 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,560 shout out shout out to Jacob being right about DJ Moore by 180 00:09:29,560 --> 00:09:33,080 the way, I mean Jacob Jacob hating DJ Moore ultimately 181 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,280 proved correct from DJ Moore you guys I mean we're. 182 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,000 Really. And now Jacob's a market maker 183 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,280 with this Hertz ADP apparently. I mean, I mean, he might be a 184 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,200 little high for Jacob, but. The the DJ Moore was running 3 185 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:53,040 mph slower once Caleb Williams let the ball go than he was 186 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,160 before Caleb Williams threw the ball Just like insane. 187 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Like he basically just gave up on the play. 188 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,200 I don't know it's so. Frustrating. 189 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,560 I love that you can't you can't soft quit on your team now 190 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:06,400 because next Gen. stats is gonna like. 191 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,680 Pull the limits. On how fast you are ready, Oh 192 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,680 man. Why are you soft quitting 193 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,680 overtime of a playoff game anyways, DJ Moore? 194 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,800 He's he's scared about Luther Burden coming to eat his lunch. 195 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,400 It's it's the only answer there. The Bills are going to trade a 196 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,160 conditional 4th round pick for DJ Moore and that's going to 197 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,560 solve other problems. And dude, Joe Brady's going to 198 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:31,840 throw even more screens. The screens. 199 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,120 The screens. Are going to be even screenier. 200 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,320 I, I have to say like this, this offseason coaching carousel had 201 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,680 the potential to be like really amazing. 202 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:44,440 But like Mike McCarthy's back, you know, Todd Munkin, like John 203 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Harbaugh's hiring was kind of fun because, because Munkin 204 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,880 seemed like he'd be cool with Jackson Dart, but then Munkin 205 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,680 goes to the Browns, and then they're gonna lose Swartz, who's 206 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:56,200 like the only good part of. That I love how Schwartz is like 207 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,920 protest. He's so pissed off about the 208 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,800 higher he's like I'm out like he shouldn't be pissed off. 209 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,960 Buddy on the table just did not deal with that. 210 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,400 So yeah, I mean, Swartz is a pretty good DC and I don't know, 211 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,440 I mean, Monken's good, but like, what's he doing like? 212 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,040 OK. Did did you guys have this 213 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,000 reaction when people were talking about Jim Schwartz as a 214 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,520 potential head coach for the Browns? 215 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,320 Were you thinking that can't possibly be the same Jim 216 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,640 Schwartz like that? Can't possibly. 217 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:27,640 Be the one. The Lions head coach. 218 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,120 I was thinking it was a good move because like it, it's sort 219 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,040 of a they're in a holding pattern. 220 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,240 Like this is like the Browns are kind of on hiatus. 221 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,720 You know what? I mean. 222 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Like they're they're on hiatus until Deshaun Watson's contract 223 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,400 expired. Rounds are taking a sabbatical 224 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,760 for the next year at least, and they have a good defense. 225 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,240 Schwartz is good. So you're kind of like, hey, our 226 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,640 DC is awesome, our defense is really good. 227 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:53,680 We're rewarding him or he's going to get paid more while 228 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:56,760 we're on sabbatical and we'll come back in a couple years. 229 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,920 You're just going to pretend that they don't have a Pro Bowl 230 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,760 quarterback at their disposal? Can I Hold on, Hold on, can I? 231 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,640 Did you guys, did you guys hear Shidor Sanders was just voted 232 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,760 into the Hall of Fame? While we're Pete, I just shared 233 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,160 my screen while we're doing coaching carousel talk. 234 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,040 This, this is how deep this goes. 235 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,440 We've got Michael Leone doing laundry bro bits. 236 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,480 This is how this is how deep the the the the tentacles of the 237 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,200 Bills failure has gone. So Leonie is responding to a 238 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,000 tweet. If the bills pulled the trigger 239 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,440 on Waddle, are they playing next week? 240 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,960 Quote tweeting a yes. And Leonie is doing the YouTube 241 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,400 commenter bit of saying as long as he stayed out of the blue. 242 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:47,480 Oh my God. Like like this is wrecked the 243 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,480 psyche of one of the most balanced people I know. 244 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,480 You know, it wrecked the psyche because we invited him on the 245 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,200 Swole cast and Davis said it was his son Micah's birthday and he 246 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,840 couldn't do it. Then the Joe Brady news broke 247 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,440 and Leonie spent the entire rest of the day on Twitter and I was 248 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,840 like the worst birthday ever for Micah. 249 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,840 Like it's just so funny. And, and, and I mean, have we, 250 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,960 we got the the official shop opinion on this as, as, as our 251 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,120 guy, as our guy shop. I don't think I've seen shop 252 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,360 weigh in on on Brady. Yeah, I, I just like obviously 253 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,240 we got the the chess Liam reveal which. 254 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Is you're not going to believe this, but Liam was pretty 255 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,320 bullish on the hire. Did you see the back-to-back 256 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,160 tweets? I was, I was hoping someone 257 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,640 would grab it, but it was Gretch was like, I don't know how 258 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,240 anyone could defend this and then it. 259 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Was in the ship chasing discord. Yeah, yeah. 260 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,200 It's it's Liam defending it. So someone well, it's so funny 261 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,800 too, to me because like some of that thought process was like, 262 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,920 OK, or I think Liam's take was, you know, if Josh Allen likes 263 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,800 Brady, then just keep Josh Allen happy. 264 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,840 But wasn't part of the reporting that they didn't ask Josh Allen 265 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,080 about firing McDermott before they fired McDermott? 266 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,080 That the owner just went rogue with an emotional? 267 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,480 It was just a it was just a response to Josh Allen's tears. 268 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,600 It's like, do you care about Josh Allen's opinion or or not? 269 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:19,880 Yeah, but being it clear like McDermott was signaling they 270 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,200 that relationship was souring, right. 271 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Mcdermott's basically like, you know, maybe if I had a receiver, 272 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,800 like a single receiver, that would be cool. 273 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,280 And maybe he's like talking to his press conference about 274 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,800 Jacoby Myers before the Jags game. 275 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,280 Like Jacoby, what a great trade that was probably something we 276 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:41,160 could have considered doing. You know, like they were clearly 277 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,400 at odds him and being. And so he loses that power 278 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,920 struggle. But I mean, yeah, Joe, what do 279 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,640 you Joe? Brady's his. 280 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Theory on his My Rookie mini, like when he goes to organized 281 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,960 team activities. Do you think Keon Coleman's 282 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,600 going to have a nice time with Joe Brady or, or do you do you 283 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,000 just at this point, do you just have to just cut Keon Coleman 284 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,000 because it's so jover like? I I don't know how has Keon had 285 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,080 a quote since that presser? Has he said anything his. 286 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,320 I have not seen one. He's done some stand up bits but 287 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:16,080 I don't think he's addressed it. He posted he posted some some 288 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,160 sketch comedy on his YouTube channel. 289 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,400 The. And I know is it the seller? 290 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,640 He's got a he's got a he's got a new skit out titled When? 291 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,400 This girl's boyfriend definitely has her blocked on every social 292 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:34,680 media platform. The I know she's your number one 293 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,800 rival, but the MENA Khan's tweet of the I think you should leave 294 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,920 sketch the courtroom sketch of the Oh yeah, watching that 295 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,440 press. Talking about me. 296 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,560 Oh my God, yeah. Just what? 297 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,200 And he's still. I mean, where? 298 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,640 What are the AD PS on Bill's wide receiver? 299 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,000 Where is Shakur? And where's Coleman going in Big 300 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Board? Shakur is the only one that gets 301 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,240 drafted. Yeah, Shakur is is a wide 302 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,960 receiver. We haven't ranked wide receiver 303 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:03,920 40 threes AD PS one O 2.4. We're a little ahead of that. 304 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,800 We don't have it. We don't have Coleman ranked. 305 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,000 What are the best teams in football? 306 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,720 And we have one wide receiver going in 240 picks with just 307 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,720 what a what a world. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. 308 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,760 I'd rather Jack Josh Palmer than Canon Coleman. 309 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,600 Yeah, yeah. I mean, if I'm, if I'm Keon 310 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,960 Coleman's agent, I'm, I'm saying you got to get me the hell out 311 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,200 of here. Like, I mean, the owner just 312 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,280 said I'm a piece of shit. Like give give me somewhere to 313 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 give me somewhere to. Wait, what's? 314 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,680 What's the pitch? Is it that I think you can I 315 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,920 what I I used to be a piece of shit. 316 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,680 Not anymore. I used to be a piece of shit. 317 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,840 I'm I'm good now, Pete. Oh, yeah. 318 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,160 I was going to say never mind you already. 319 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,080 You already did this. You you guess an ADP. 320 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,760 So does anyone here have any playoff basketball sweats 321 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,840 heading into the Super Bowl? I do, I have. 322 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,880 I mean, it's not like super live for first place because man gone 323 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,560 has a really awesome team, which which I know DraftKings doesn't 324 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,200 show you the other teams in the pot, but I am in the final of 325 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:22,160 the the DK Millie over, you know, the $1,000,000 first 326 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,960 tournament, $200,000 to second. Could we spread that? 327 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,120 Could we flatten that? Maybe that I don't have the the 328 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:34,000 favorite, but yeah, I got in with with Drake may team, of 329 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:40,160 course, but it also has Sam Darnold's Kenneth Walker K Shawn 330 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,480 Booty Hunter Henry, Stefan Diggs Cooper Cup. 331 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,600 So. Was it equally as hard on DK to 332 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,760 get Seattle stuff through or was there a a mitigating factor? 333 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Seattle stuff was pretty hard to get through and specifically JSN 334 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,760 which I don't have and I don't know Mangoan does, so I'm like 335 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,720 to finish first. I would need Hunter Henry to 336 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:09,480 outscore AJ Barner and then that to help me cover the gap between 337 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,960 like Keyshawn Booty and or Cooper Cup and JSM. 338 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,680 That's how I that's how I won a mil. 339 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,560 I feel like the, the, it's so cruel too, because even there 340 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,560 were those teams heading into conference championship that 341 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,200 were like the Pats onslaughts and then that game flops and all 342 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,720 of a sudden like those teams don't look good anymore. 343 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:33,000 I, I feel bad for the people on BBMDB, like the one guy 344 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,880 Limehouse, he's in the Deposit Kingdom discord. 345 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,280 He has a $500,000 EV showing to his team right now. 346 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,600 And it's just like one play swings slightly differently and 347 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,840 you're actually by 4. I don't feel that bad for him. 348 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,240 It's it's the equivalent of being up stuck, right? 349 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,760 Because once you see the best possible prize, it can only get 350 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,960 worse from there. Because I'm telling you, even if 351 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,440 he wins 50K, he's going to be like, fuck, I stared AT500K all 352 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:05,280 week. But yes, David, I, I understand 353 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,040 you would, you would take you would take the 500 K of EV right 354 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,640 now I had, I had, I mean, why? Why doesn't he? 355 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,360 Why doesn't he just call CSU RAM and and send himself a nice 356 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,280 little floor? He should. 357 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,680 He should. Yeah. 358 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,200 I had AI, had a really nice portfolio going into conference 359 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,440 championship and it entirely depended on the Rams winning. 360 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,040 I think I still have four teams in the gauntlet finals. 361 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520 I guess there's some Patriots on there but all of them are are 362 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,280 dead with Rams which which sucks. 363 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Yeah, I have a team in the gauntlet named Dead. 364 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,200 It has Ramandre and Henderson, so so that's cool. 365 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,840 Ramandre by the way, is on my DK team if I if I forgot to mention 366 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,000 him. But I have a Mitten 3 team 367 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:58,200 that's live that has an EV of almost $6000 according to our a 368 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,880 buddy Patrick Donovan. There you go. 369 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,200 So that's cool. If you don't know what we're 370 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:10,120 talking about on bbmdb.com, PD has expected value for all the 371 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:13,040 teams across underdog playoff basketball contest. 372 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:16,120 Someone DM Ed me on Twitter and said dude I made the final of 373 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,960 the DK stuff. Can you tell me how to figure 374 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,080 out this stuff and ownership? I was like I don't I don't think 375 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,640 that exists. Does it exist? 376 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:27,480 What can't exist because we don't know the teams, the they 377 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,920 they lock the pods. Like you could change your your 378 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,720 players late swap. You can yeah, it's like late 379 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,760 swap. It's like the play, the games 380 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,960 haven't started, so you can't see. 381 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,400 It's like, well, they kind of have DK because I can't change 382 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,040 anything, can I? So it's a little frustrating, 383 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,520 but we'll, but in some ways it's good. 384 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,440 You know, we'll once, once the Super Bowl kicks off, then we'll 385 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,600 then we'll know. And we can't. 386 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,760 I can't sweat it until. Then maybe it's not. 387 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,320 DraftKings is just protecting people and their mental health. 388 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,920 They're saying it's not good to get your hopes up and think 389 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,440 about this for an entire two weeks. 390 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,880 So that's kind of what I was thinking. 391 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,560 But then the problem is, right, once the Super Bowl kicks off, 392 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,360 instead of like, watching the game, I'm going to be like, 393 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:14,280 furiously checking the DK app and seeing what other teams have 394 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,400 what. So I'm going to be cramming 395 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,440 during the game. So I'd actually prefer just to 396 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,760 be able to do this now, you know? 397 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,760 I, I feel like you, even in our group chats, you've been very 398 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,720 quiet about this run by Drake May because it has been a kind 399 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,760 of a divisive playoff run for your king. 400 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,560 Some people saying they got lucky. 401 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,880 He hasn't been playing well. One of the worst quarterbacks to 402 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,720 ever make it to the Super Bowl. I don't. 403 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,440 Know are people saying that? I just said that. 404 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,360 What do you have to say about Drake May's two playoff games? 405 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,320 I mean, it hasn't been great. Like he's he didn't look. 406 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,320 So I actually, you know, I thought the Texans game wasn't 407 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,600 so bad where he's he didn't play all that well, but he made a 408 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,640 couple very nice throws. Booty has an incredible catch 409 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,400 and that is probably it's one of those things we're heading into 410 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,880 the game. The Texans had the best defense 411 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,880 in the league and then after they lost the Patriots, they had 412 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,960 the second best defense in the league behind the Seahawks. 413 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,920 I noticed the narrative kind of shifted there, but I would say 414 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,520 them and the Seahawks were kind of the Tier 1 defenses this 415 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,880 year. And so, you know, to have a 416 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,960 pretty up and down game there with pretty poor pass blocking 417 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,000 didn't didn't bug me. The Broncos game, I hope the 418 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Blizzard was really Blizzarding because they like they were 419 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,640 playing for three and outs at the end of that game. 420 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,240 I mean, even the game-winning, you know, run that that May had 421 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,880 apparently called his own number. 422 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:42,160 They were going to just run right up the gut, which is 423 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,080 cowardly and frustrating, you know, and and doesn't show a ton 424 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,520 of faith in in May. So that game was definitely way 425 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,480 more of a bummer to me than the Texans game. 426 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,080 Obviously there were there were conditions that were a factor 427 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,360 there, but they seem content to be like, we're just going to bet 428 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:03,400 that Jared Stidham can't score and we're not going to risk any 429 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,400 errors. So that felt like a game of a 430 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,000 second year quarterback in the AFC championship game as opposed 431 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,520 to, you know, an MVP contender in the AFC championship game for 432 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,040 sure, which which was a bummer. But I mean, ultimately, like I 433 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,920 drafted a ton of Drake may play a best ball. 434 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,880 We recommended people doing that. 435 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,280 If you got to the Super Bowl and you have Drake may, you've got a 436 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,640 quarterback live in the Super Bowl. 437 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,080 So that's that's ultimately the goal. 438 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,560 Hopefully if he like, if he has a big Super Bowl, I'm going to 439 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,960 feel great about this playoff run because my guy made the 440 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,120 Super Bowl. What do you guys think about? 441 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:41,160 I feel, I mean, as far as all the players who made it live to 442 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,600 the Super Bowl, I mean, Henderson was clearly the most 443 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,560 overdrafted relative to his. Yeah, for sure. 444 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,920 Eventual role and you guys said he's still going like top 50 in 445 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,280 2026 drafts. Like what is your take on this 446 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,680 Henderson usage through the playoffs? 447 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,680 They don't like him. They don't trust him. 448 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,000 Romandre's been better. We'll we'll definitely like it's 449 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,480 one of those things that is certainly subject to change. 450 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,040 I'm sure the team did not think over Mandre is going to come 451 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,800 back and have the best 6 game stretch of his entire life, 452 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,040 including at Oklahoma, but he has right so. 453 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,520 I I. I, I take both of them kind of 454 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,600 where where they're going now. Like, don't you just, I feel 455 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,560 like the thing that was so weird is I always have that play from 456 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,600 the preseason stuck in my head where he caught that wheel route 457 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,800 and it was like, oh man, this is how they're gonna use him. 458 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,040 They're gonna get him out in space, get him the ball, let him 459 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,600 catch balls, make people miss. And they just they turned him 460 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,880 into an interior rusher. That's his role on the team as a 461 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,640 change of pace. Interior rusher for Romandre 462 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,200 just seems really bizarre to me. Yeah, I mean, I think part of 463 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,760 what's happening is that they just played the Texans defense 464 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,840 and the Broncos defense, 2 very strong defenses, one of which in 465 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,200 a Blizzard. And we just, you know, they they 466 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,800 were very conservative in both games. 467 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,760 And I think part of that's going to be leaning on Romandre 468 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,160 Stevenson. Like it doesn't make a ton of if 469 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,280 you're, if you're going to try to like keep the chains moving 470 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,760 with the run. That's such a strong fit for 471 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,000 Romandre Stevenson compared to rookie Trevion Henderson. 472 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,320 I I think the fact that they are willing to use Henderson as a 473 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,080 traditional runner is not a bad thing. 474 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,400 When we think through like what his upside looks like in 2026, 475 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,600 especially down the stretch, Romandre will be there. 476 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,480 Romandre is under contract. He's due 7.6 million cap hit. 477 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,200 And they, you know, they're obviously they're going to keep 478 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,640 them. They don't even save any money 479 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,480 by cutting them. And, and they clearly like them. 480 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,680 They, they don't want to do that. 481 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,440 So they also have him under contract for 2027 with a $9.6 482 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,720 million cap hit. So he's he's probably there 483 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:55,080 again. But yeah, I mean, I think you're 484 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,640 still, you're still betting on Henderson to be the better 485 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,440 player down the stretch in 2026, in my opinion. 486 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,720 I'm happy to make that bet. He's looked really good at times 487 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,880 this year. I I get it like I this, these 488 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,400 are Ramandre games, you know, like they're leaning on their 489 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,040 Ramandre in the Ramandre games like totally fine. 490 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,320 And then they're we're not expecting much of from Henderson 491 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,680 in the Super Bowl, but Seattle has an elite run defense as 492 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,120 well. So ultimately the playoffs have 493 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:28,480 been a bit concerning. And when you think about like 494 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,320 what the floor is for Henderson, it's low. 495 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,080 You can basically back up running back next year, But I'm 496 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,800 willing to bet that that's, you know, a small percentage of the 497 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,040 outcomes. I guess, but it seems based on 498 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,640 his ADP there's like there's no discounts relative to this poor 499 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,000 playoff performance. No. 500 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,680 Yeah, but I mean, running backs are like we've talked about 501 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,880 running backs are going fairly high. 502 00:26:55,120 --> 00:27:02,680 So it's not like, you know, he's the running back for, you know, 503 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040 or whatever. What I what if it was the big if 504 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,840 it was basketball mania two years ago, he might be the 505 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,040 running back twelve with his current ADP. 506 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,160 He's the running back 18 and he's probably going to get 507 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,320 flipped by or no, he's he's going to he's actually behind. 508 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,120 We have him ranked running back 18, but he is actually behind 509 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,520 ETN and ADP so and he's about to get flipped by scataboo. 510 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,960 Maybe for running back 20. Harvey's just behind. 511 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,640 He could flip them too. So we we could be talking about 512 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600 a guy who's outside the top 24 running backs. 513 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,200 If you know a couple guys get drafted high, or you know 514 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,200 Judkins, if we start to get positive news on him, he's only 515 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,240 a couple running backs in the top 24 guys right now. 516 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,960 All right, before we have Yosh come on here in a second, who is 517 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,720 your guys's favorite player at ADP right now in the big board? 518 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,480 Patrick Mahomes. He's the. 519 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,320 Quarterback 12 He's the quarterback 12 What he He was 520 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,160 just the quarterback 2IN points per game. 521 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720 Yes, Yosh, apparently I should send you the link. 522 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,080 My bad, I thought I did. What about you, Pat? 523 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,440 I do really like Breece Hall right now. 524 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,760 He's a free agent. Playing all the. 525 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,800 Hits, yeah, both of you guys just absolutely playing the 526 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,760 hits. OK, let me give a I'll give a, 527 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,920 I'll give a serious answer. Well, I I did seriously believe. 528 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,200 That, I mean, that was a serious answer and it's a good answer. 529 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,280 I'll give you I'll give you 1 where you're your favorite 530 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,320 mainstream fantasy analyst is going to find this one in six to 531 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,200 eight business weeks. Adam Randall, Round 20 running 532 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,160 back selection. Converted receiver on. 533 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,320 It. Yeah, yeah, Pat knows. 534 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,560 Pat knows. Yeah. 535 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,160 It's really, really good stuff. Converted Converted converted 536 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,280 wide receiver to full Workhorse Not Not the Broussard Smith. 537 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Not the Antonio Gibson. Converted wide receiver with 60 538 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,920 receptions his first three seasons to full on 2025 touches 539 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,800 per game workhorse for Clemson. OK. 540 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,360 All right. There, I'll throw out Jaden 541 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,240 Daniels as well as his second. Second, Daniels is a good one. 542 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,960 He's going at 72. Yeah, I was just going to say 543 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:22,280 Pat, if come like a December ship cast and Adam Randall is 544 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,080 crushing and you've done an entire, you know, offseason of 545 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,360 content about him and you try to call receipts on Adam Randall 546 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,280 being your guy. Davis is going to go back to 547 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,720 this stream and we're going to roll back the tape. 548 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,400 But Davis will have said his name first. 549 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,080 Well, let. Me. 550 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,520 Say it for Pastori I love Adam Randall. 551 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,040 I love Adam. Randall. 552 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,200 Well, do you want to know a funny thing that is going to 553 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,920 limit Adam Randall from being too much of A hype sleeper? 554 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,480 His name's Adam fucking Randall. It's not his name. 555 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,960 His name is not by Shell Tooton. His name is not something cool. 556 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,000 His name is Adam Randall. Is he at least pigeon, toad or 557 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,960 anything cool like that? I mean, I think he's kind of 558 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,840 big. OK, Yeah. 559 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,600 You're I I love that we're going to have to pay like a a foot, 560 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,840 you know, malfunction premium going forward just cuz we're 561 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,760 going to map it on to Harold fan in success. 562 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,320 Yeah, dude, Adam Randall's Clemson listed weight, and this 563 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:22,200 might be high, is 235. South Randall is your guy. 564 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,440 Not my guy. I haven't been. 565 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,040 I've been a little bit cautious on Randall cuz he's like, I'm 566 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,120 like, does he get the does he get the draft capital is day 567 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,240 three draft capital type of guy? So I've been I kind of want to 568 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:42,040 see him land somewhere that he has like a path, but I'm he's 569 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,080 definitely intriguing. He's definitely intriguing, but 570 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,840 I won't, I won't be fighting you in in October about who's that 571 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,800 who's call Adam Randall was. So Adam Randall here, Pete, we 572 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,800 can do we? Could all right, but we do have 573 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,160 Yosh here, so we can bring the table or bring Yoshin. 574 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,600 Bring Yoshin. All right, welcoming to the 575 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,040 stage. You're 2025 Eliminator champ, 576 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,280 200 K richer. Welcome to the show, Purple 577 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,480 Yosh. What is up guys? 578 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,640 I I see my Yosh's are actually pretty clear in the background 579 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,960 here, so we're off to a good start. 580 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,920 What is up? Thank you for having me. 581 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,480 This is This is awesome. No, man, how? 582 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,600 What's it? What's it been like? 583 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,920 You obviously had the the crazy sweat, the progressive sweat of 584 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,440 each week mattering so much down there, but now you've gotten to 585 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,200 exhale, enjoy the winnings. Have you been celebrating? 586 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,760 Man, I don't think I really like know how to celebrate this, this 587 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,560 money, honestly. Like I I do have a wedding 588 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,280 coming up that that was the the best thing of like, OK, so that 589 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,000 the financial stress of that is obviously greatly reduced. 590 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,200 But yeah, I mean, like, door dashing back-to-back days is 591 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,840 like my idea of like I'm like, yes. 592 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,720 I I get it man, that's sounds scary. 593 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,400 I'm like, but it's, it's so funny, like we always eat and me 594 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,080 and my fiance go out to eat and stuff like that. 595 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,440 I'm like, I'm like, this isn't like this is our version of like 596 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,040 we're living so large and, and, and stuff like that. 597 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,160 So, you know, got a lot of loans, student loans for law 598 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,880 school. We're, yeah, we're crazy. 599 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,040 So, you know, but I don't know exactly what I'm going to do 600 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,560 about all that. But it's fun. 601 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,720 But it hasn't really sunk in yet, to be honest, I don't 602 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,720 think. 2200 K is like a really ideal amount of money to win 603 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,600 because the expectation is not oh, my life doesn't change. 604 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,000 Like I don't, I don't move. I don't move to San Diego. 605 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,640 You know, I don't, I don't get AI don't get a nightmare. 606 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,720 It's nice here I'll just. Say just just just big, big 607 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,480 things we're talking about here like no, nobody in particular 608 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,040 just something start a website you. 609 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Know yeah, like you're just like my life just kind of like got a 610 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,320 little bit easier you know it's it's kind of it's kind of. 611 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960 I'm going to play tennis tomorrow, by the way, just just 612 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,240 saying I'm. I'm sneezing right now like I I. 613 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,040 But you're not going to, you're not going to start beat 614 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,440 eliminator.com. You know, I just, I don't, I 615 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,560 don't think so. And it was funny, you know, 616 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,360 shout out to shout out to Emo Cowboy, because I went on the 617 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,840 toxic Tower and talked about it and at the end they were like, 618 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,400 yeah, you know, stream or whatever. 619 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,560 I'm like, I'm like, man, you guys don't have to worry about 620 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,400 that. Like I'm not. 621 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,200 I tried streaming some like video games a little bit when I 622 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,400 got like a good computer and stuff and it was like a flash in 623 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,880 the pan for me. I like, I just didn't really 624 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,200 enjoy it as much as I thought I would. 625 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,280 But I like, you know, hopping on here and talking to you guys. 626 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,640 So. But I'm not, I'm not starting 627 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,440 any anything obviously. How many refresh our memory? 628 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,240 How many eliminator teams did you did you draft? 629 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,520 Oh, I maxed it. It was it was my big thing. 630 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,840 Like when that when the new format got released and everyone 631 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,320 was hyped about it, I was definitely right there along 632 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,720 with everybody. And I decided pretty early on 633 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,480 that because so this is my third year playing best ball like like 634 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,000 pretty seriously. It's only the IT was only the 635 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,640 second year that it was legal in Michigan. 636 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,880 So my first year was on DK but I had about $2000 or so that I was 637 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,960 going to play with and the first year I did it was mostly like 638 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,719 the chihuahuas, the puppy, like just anything cheap. 639 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,639 I didn't do any. Like the only Best Ball Mania 640 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:17,760 team I had the first year was one with Emo and Tom from 641 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,400 Fantasy Sanctuary. And then this year my only share 642 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,760 of Best Ball Mania was the group Bash that was like destined for 643 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,679 us to all split $2,000,000 right up until Daniel Jones tanked JT. 644 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,679 Then who was the other big? I mean, I guess Gibbs kind of 645 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,239 started at the end. Greece. 646 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,560 Yeah, it was a good team JSN. So so I was always doing cheap 647 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,880 stuff, but when that got released, I was, you know, I'm 648 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,679 going to Max this and then I'll do small field like I did Husk. 649 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:46,960 I did some Huskies, you know, a little bit higher buy in, but 650 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,800 smaller field. I didn't do nearly as much of 651 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,840 the $3 and $5.00, but I was like, I'm going to focus on 652 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,159 eliminator. I'm going to Max it. 653 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,760 And I like planned out how I wanted to approach it and 654 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,600 everything but but no, I definitely maxed it and it 655 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,120 worked out. Nice. 656 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,360 That's incredible, dude. It's always nice too. 657 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,440 I mean, I feel like both stories are fun. 658 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,440 You know, someone tosses one entry in and you know, banks 659 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,000 something. But it's also nice when a 660 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,560 grinder who has developed a plan, you know, set aside the 661 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,400 bankroll, executed it, and then is rewarded for it. 662 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,480 That's very cool. Yeah, and it it, it, it felt 663 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,000 good because I mean, I was even to like my fiance. 664 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,720 He was just like, I'm just no real concern for it, but I would 665 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,800 just, or anyone who would let you know, I'll be in chat, you 666 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,080 know? Obviously. 667 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,320 I'm in chats and I'm just like, no, man, I'm doing eliminator is 668 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,520 my thing. I'm going to do like anytime 669 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,440 like we're talking about players. 670 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,280 I would just be like, Oh, I look so and so for eliminate, like I 671 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,680 was that person like because I just like it was all I was 672 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,920 really thinking about and it was weird because even though I'm 673 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,160 like consuming the content all the time, I really tried. 674 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,840 I wanted to do as many. Oh, of course, I'm I'm going to 675 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,240 pull a shady and have my cat show up. 676 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:55,320 Apparently. Oh, I love it. 677 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,240 But I wanted to do as many of them as late as I could and I 678 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,760 wanted to do them in fast drafts because I wanted, I thought it 679 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,680 was more likely that people make mistakes in the fast drafts. 680 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:13,400 Oh my God, I knew this would happen, but I was I kind of 681 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,560 regretted that at one point because there was this cool, 682 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,960 there was this nice window for slow drafts where like Jalen 683 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,160 Coker was hurt and then he wasn't. 684 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,520 And I was taking look at it for the week 14 by but then Coker 685 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,200 was the better, you know, and I kind of was kicking myself 686 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,320 because there was like a week there where I was like, Oh, this 687 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,320 is feeling too fast. And I was doing like 20 or 30 688 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,520 fast a day And and like, because I wanted, because it's like cash 689 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,840 game. Like I don't play cash like or I 690 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,600 never did. But I was like, you know, I 691 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,800 think it's better to have the most information possible. 692 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,880 So I would trickle in some slows and I have this, I changed the 693 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,680 names of the teams as we were as the season was progressing. 694 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:52,000 I think the team that won was actually a slow draft because I 695 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,480 remember seeing it come together and being like, oh, OK. 696 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,800 But most of mine were fast and all sort of toward the end of 697 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,440 the drafting window. So I don't know if I'll do it 698 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,640 exactly like that. I think there was some benefit. 699 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,320 I just have like the one day a week I go into the office, I 700 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,400 don't have Internet, so it's so it's slow drafts. 701 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,400 There's like this one day a week where I'm like having to, you 702 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,280 know, star people and stuff like that. 703 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,480 So, but but we'll see how I do it. 704 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,040 I don't know if I'll do it exactly like that because I 705 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,680 remember being like jealous of Nez and some people who are 706 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,680 like. Oh, I just got Jayla. 707 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,880 Coker right now and it's like he's going to be back and stuff 708 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,520 like that. I'm like. 709 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,320 Ha ha, I'm just. Sitting here like slamming 710 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,720 league at cuz he's got a horse like what am I doing? 711 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,080 Did you, do you like, when did this team kind of bubble up for 712 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,760 you? As far as I was curious, like 713 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,400 when did you start to sweat this team? 714 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,440 Yeah. So it's it's funny, so pretty 715 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:47,560 early on, because I remember at at some point I named it fun 716 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,480 team needs Brock because Brock had the toe thing. 717 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,040 And this team actually survived in week 8 without a quarterback 718 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,240 because Russell Wilson had been benched, I thought. 719 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,240 And Russell Wilson did have like that one or two blow up weeks 720 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:06,280 super early on. Yep, but Matthew Stafford having 721 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,800 the MVP caliber. We don't need to debate that. 722 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,760 You know, truce pad. I don't I don't really care at 723 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,320 this point, but but Matthew Stafford carried it because 724 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,960 Brock Brock was hurt and Russ. I was thinking Russ would get 725 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,120 benched like week 10. I didn't think he would just get 726 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,120 pinched like week 4, but week 8 was the by Mageddon. 727 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,680 So the whoever I went up against, they had so many by 728 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,960 weeks and I did a really good job on this team of like not 729 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,880 having almost any overlapping by weeks, except for like I think I 730 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,160 had two quarterbacks technically who are week 14. 731 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,840 And then I had a skinny with Jawan Jennings. 732 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,280 But yeah, so so sometime really early on, but I knew I wanted 733 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,960 Brock to come back for week 8. So I was sweating that and he 734 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,480 didn't come back and I was like, I'm I'm dead. 735 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,160 And then I but week 8 was so crazy with the amount of buys 736 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,000 and people I don't think did a good enough job of like you 737 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,440 really like stacking week 14 is, is the only real like if you're 738 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,160 going to stack up by week, stack up week 14. 739 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,360 Still make sure you have enough to get that to get past it 740 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,400 because you still want to win. But I think I don't think people 741 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,880 took seriously enough. Like no, like you have like 3 or 742 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,360 4 players on like the same by week. 743 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,080 It can really kill you unless you unless you have a nice spike 744 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,040 week, which is you know, the name of the game too. 745 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,160 So. And you you had a stretch where 746 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,640 your team was obviously pretty dominant and in your head to 747 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,880 heads like probably favored to win most weeks. 748 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,840 But then you get to that finals and that other team and I'm 749 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,200 blanking on the username, but wasn't he projected to win had 750 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,480 the had the better team, at least on paper? 751 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,560 Yeah, for sure. And and I was like now I I'm now 752 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,120 I'm saying I was reverse jinxing. 753 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,360 I was in the reverse jinx minds. But like for weeks I was like, 754 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,160 I'm never going to win. This guy has the because I kept 755 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,560 seeing his team when I would go on. 756 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,120 You, you were big on the reverse Jinx for the team that you were 757 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,480 against in the final. You were in the discord like, 758 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,960 Nah, this guy's a monster. Like, we're just happy to be 759 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,400 here. It was like. 760 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,960 Yeah, that's how I feel about Mango, you know, that that that 761 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:07,800 team's just sad. But but yeah, and but I mean it, 762 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,480 it's just crazy. I mean, especially with with, 763 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,040 you know, shout out BDI mean his. 764 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,240 It's crazy to see the amount of times where I was like a big 765 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:18,920 underdog and it doesn't take that much to really to really 766 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,160 win. And the other thing that's crazy 767 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:26,400 is I had so I had two, two teams get to week 14 and the team that 768 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,840 lost in week 14 because it had a couple too many week 14 buys. 769 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,800 It would have destroyed my team that one and the other, 770 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,680 obviously the other two that I beat like it, it scored like 170 771 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,920 in the week 17. It was like Derrick Henry, Trey 772 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,120 McBride, a bunch of random receivers who didn't do anything 773 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,320 all year went nuts. It had Hendo, it had I think it 774 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,280 had Drake May, it had definitely had Drake May. 775 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,800 So I went and did the math on that. 776 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,520 I was like, oh, man, I would have blown myself out by 40 777 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,440 points if I had somehow, if I had had the dream of the other 778 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,920 dream of, you know, you face yourself in the elim finals, 779 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,120 which was on the table there for way longer than you'd think, I 780 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,840 guess. That's crazy. 781 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,560 Yeah, the I remember in your team too. 782 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,520 I feel like Michael Wilson was just such a massive piece of of 783 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,160 your team there for a while. Yeah, and the cool thing about 784 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,760 the Michael Wilson thing is so one of the pro sciency things I 785 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,360 did for the Eliminator is I really focused on the schedule. 786 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:23,160 And I had like John from Badge Bros posted like this whole 787 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,160 schedule grid and I was looking at like chunks of the schedule. 788 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,560 And even though obviously we can't predict defenses, we can't 789 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,600 really predict game environments, but you can make 790 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,000 an educated guess like you can you can look at a game between 791 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:37,600 and I guess the Browns isn't a good example because there was 792 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,120 that one week 17 where they went nuts. 793 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,480 But like you look at you can look at certain games games and 794 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,440 say for DFS in that game environment, you're not going to 795 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,720 be excited. And then you can look at other 796 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,480 other games and and think, OK, you're probably going to be more 797 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,800 excited. So I tried to find, first of 798 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,800 all, just teams where were teams that kept popping up with like, 799 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,720 oh, that's a good game environment. 800 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,360 Oh, that's a, you know, maybe they had an easy schedule, 801 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,840 whatever. And Arizona was this team that 802 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,640 like, I also broke it down by quarters of the schedule because 803 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,360 it was like, OK, maybe this group of teams will do well in 804 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,200 the first part, but then you need to kind of pass the baton 805 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,240 to another group of players or teams and then so on and so 806 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,040 forth. The team that kept popping up in 807 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,080 in multiple different windows was Arizona and I was one of 808 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,240 them. And I didn't really love Kyler. 809 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,520 I didn't really care that much about stacking obviously in the 810 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,680 eliminator, But Wilson was free and I'm like, OK, so a lot like 811 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,920 half of us think Marvin Harrison sucks. 812 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,240 Your best receiver is Trey McBride. 813 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,760 This is just a wider. They didn't draft anybody. 814 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,800 There's no exciting rookie. There's no like, you know, shot 815 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,240 out short king Greg Dorch, but like he's not going to be the 816 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:41,320 man. So like like, so this guy's just 817 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,760 a wide receiver too on a team that we think they're probably 818 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,480 not going to be a good team, but they're probably going to score 819 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,520 points and like Dick around and like, and he's just free like 820 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,720 just a wide receiver to. Do the round is a pretty perfect 821 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:52,320 I. Was going to say. 822 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,040 They did. A lot. 823 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,160 Of that's exactly what they did. And now did I expect him to, 824 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,360 like be, you know, actual Jerry Rice? 825 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,360 Like, no. And it was like every time I was 826 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,400 like, OK, it's over. It's the Michael Wilson 827 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,400 experience. He's done enough. 828 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,560 It's just like, Oh no buddy, here he goes catching him. 829 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,080 Like he was amazing. So but then that's also why I 830 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,880 didn't have Tyler because it wasn't like I was trying to 831 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,680 initially stack it up. It's just like you get later in 832 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,960 the draft. I'm just like, just give me one 833 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,800 offs that are going to be in these weird game environments. 834 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,920 Like, and I, you know, remembered like a couple years 835 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,080 ago, he randomly caught 2 touchdowns against San 836 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,120 Francisco. And one of the things, sorry, 837 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,200 I'm rambling on a little bit, but one of the things about 838 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,200 about Eliminator that I thought maybe people were overcorrecting 839 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,280 4 was like, oh, you just want floor guys. 840 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,200 It's like, no, you, you beat a guy in a one-on-one. 841 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,960 Like if you can just beat a guy with like 2 spike weeks, that's 842 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,360 amazing. Like you can do that. 843 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,600 So I didn't really care that Michael Wilson was probably 844 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,400 going to be a bad floor play again, forgetting that or not 845 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,400 knowing he'd become Jerry Rice would be a good floor play. 846 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,920 I was more like, give me two weeks where he catches 2 random 847 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,880 touchdowns and that could be that could just be enough to win 848 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,960 me that week. All things I was considered. 849 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:02,280 What it It's also a good reason for why mixing up the formats 850 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,400 you play is so helpful, because so many of our Michael Wilson 851 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,840 shares and like BBM and the traditional contest, were 852 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,800 tethered to Kyler Murray and those teams. 853 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,440 Were all. Effectively dead, but then you 854 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,600 get the eliminator format where like you said, the stacking is 855 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,920 almost a a bug instead of a feature. 856 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,600 Pushes you off of that and you can get siloed. 857 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,400 Michael Wilson, That's pretty cool. 858 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,520 That is cool. Yeah. 859 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,680 Well dude, incredible stuff. Had so much fun tracking that 860 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,920 throughout the year and I'm so glad you were able to to come on 861 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,000 here. I guess I do have to ask, you 862 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,280 mentioned making a few splurge purchases. 863 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,480 Have you kept the 200,000 in your account like I once 864 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,320 admonished Pat for for taking the 2,000,000 out of his 865 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,280 underdog account? You know, sadly not. 866 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,320 I do have a a bigger chunk than I should still on there because 867 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,240 like there was a weird thing with the withdrawal process. 868 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:54,920 So I have it going to like my old bank and I'm having to like 869 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,960 cycle it to my current it's So there's no there's no point for 870 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,080 me to even withdraw the rest of it out because it's going to 871 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,440 take me like literally like 2 weeks or whatever to But and I 872 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,880 also, but before I go, I want to shout out your guys's guy, Zach. 873 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,440 He's working on a little compilation like just for me to 874 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,360 remember this experience by because it was really awesome. 875 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,360 Like between you and Davis and the badge Bros, like, you know, 876 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,240 I kind of dug myself a hole because like by the time I was 877 00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:19,800 getting far at all, I was like every week I was like gifting a 878 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,320 ton of memberships and dropping super chats. 879 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,560 And then like I keep winning and I was like, well, I can't mix it 880 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,160 up now. So I like probably spent like 881 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,960 like a 2% tip. I don't know if it's that much, 882 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,160 but like I, I spent a lot of money on that stuff. 883 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,840 But but I'm gonna I'm paying Zach to do a little compilation 884 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,280 just so I can like remember like of all the different times, it 885 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,040 was like, oh, it's still alive and all this other like all the 886 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,960 comments from the streams and stuff and it's cool. 887 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,840 That'll be like just fun to remember and then. 888 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,840 Zach, Zach knew you had just come into some money too, so his 889 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,120 dates went up as well. So, you know, that's what that's 890 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,320 that I, I accept that he does incredible stuff. 891 00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:57,000 Well, Yosh, it doesn't sound like you have a beat. 892 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,200 eliminator.com to plug. Anything else you'd like people 893 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,120 to check out here before we bring on Gobbler? 894 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,000 I, I don't think so. You know, everybody who's here 895 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,560 watches all the people that I, you know, support and love. 896 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,920 You guys are the best. And, you know, I'm just glad to 897 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,160 be a long time member of the, the community. 898 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,600 So thank you guys. Appreciate you man. 899 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,720 Good luck. Thanks for coming on man. 900 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,640 Upcoming wedding and getting all your funds off of a underdog 901 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,560 there. All right, the Champions tour 902 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,640 continues with the marathon champion. 903 00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:29,640 It is gobbler. You know I'm from the ship 904 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,800 chasing discord. Welcome to the show, man. 905 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,640 Hey guys what's going on? As you can tell I've been using 906 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,880 the the marathon part and just like hiding the fantasy football 907 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,680 part and telling people I want a marathon. 908 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,800 Very confused looks. That is, yeah. 909 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,680 Deb, you told people in your in your real life about this. 910 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,840 I assume they're the ones who are very confused. 911 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,320 I've told a couple people but for the most part I just kind of 912 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,360 kept it to myself so far. I, I told one person I worked 913 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,760 with and I was like, keep this on the download. 914 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,840 Don't, don't be going around telling people because I think 915 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,520 Ray's time is coming up in a few months. 916 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,560 I don't need that. You need to leverage anything. 917 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,880 That's right. And I feel like, I mean your 918 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,240 sweat's just so different than even the yo sweat. 919 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:19,760 Like at what point did you enter the the pole position? 920 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,960 Because I know for like the past couple weeks you were sitting 921 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,880 pretty good, right? Yeah. 922 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,600 So what's, what's wild about it is about midway through the 923 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,560 season, I didn't, I had maybe one team in the top 500 and it 924 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,640 wasn't even this team. And then it was the Kyle Pitts 925 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,400 blow up game that shot me up. Like so it was, it was kind of 926 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,120 like maybe I can't even remember what week it was. 927 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,360 It's like weeks 8-9. I started to see a climb and I 928 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,880 started to get a couple more through and, and every week it 929 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,720 was something like, OK, well, if I can get a team in the top 100, 930 00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:58,040 that'll be good. Or well, maybe I can get into 931 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,280 the top 50, that'd be cool. And then I I just kept creeping 932 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,120 up a little bit. And then that Kyle Pitts game 933 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,840 happened when everybody was getting mad because I'm the only 934 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,920 person that got even on Kyle Pitts in the career. 935 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:13,240 How many of us is such a marathon ass pick? 936 00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:14,920 My God. Oh for sure. 937 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,680 And so yeah, that Kyle Pitts game launched me up to to a 938 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,880 really good like top 20 thing. And then he ran hot a couple 939 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,080 more times, but it was just it was kind of the sick combo of 940 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,920 players that just hit at the right time. 941 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:33,320 Really when it came down to it, it just every time that I needed 942 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,440 something from somebody, they got it. 943 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,520 Like if it was one of those bottom 3 receivers, Michael 944 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,880 Wilson, Dobbs, even Wandale, well, especially Wandale, really 945 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,040 like when there are my top guys weren't weren't delivering. 946 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,680 Those guys are stepping up in the right weeks. 947 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,480 So it was just the combination just magically worked. 948 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:54,280 Well, I mean, even looking back on these, I mean, you got 949 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,720 obviously massive seasons out of those top three wide receivers, 950 00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:00,280 Amanrat, JSN, Pickens. But then yeah, the back end 951 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,440 guys, I guess Wilson was dominant for a stretch, but the 952 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,200 Noel Robinson, Dobbs, you probably just ping pong those 953 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,760 perfectly. Yeah, I think that that's 954 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,600 exactly what happened. They just kind of hit it the 955 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,040 right weeks because it's one of those things if I you would have 956 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,720 shown this team to me like I drafted a bunch of teams. 957 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:21,000 I only got 90 into the marathon because famously in the ship 958 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,080 chasing discord, I've been really anti marathon and some of 959 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,400 these other contests for a while. 960 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,840 And then this year I was like, yeah, I'm going to do the 961 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,960 marathon. And then I started chasing 962 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,720 overlay at the end. Just couldn't get there. 963 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,600 So I didn't even have a, a full amount in here and I really 964 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,000 wasn't even focusing too much on it. 965 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,120 I used the sidekick and most of the time was just taking 966 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,880 whatever the sidekick was saying on this one because it was it 967 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,200 was literally not a contest I was thinking too much about. 968 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,320 I was more interested in basketball Mania and some of the 969 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,080 other ones. So it was just it was one of 970 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,960 those things where this one just worked out perfectly. 971 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,120 And if you would have showed me this team, I would have said 972 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:01,880 this. This team is nothing like at the 973 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,240 beginning of the season. And I think that that's the 974 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,400 biggest lesson I've learned from this one is like, sometimes it's 975 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,320 the unsexy guys that that really like pop for you and get you 976 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,880 going. And not to say that didn't have 977 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,680 some of the league winners in there, but I'm battling with a 978 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,920 lot of Jonathan Taylor and Gibbs and Jonathan Taylor and Gibbs 979 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,560 together teams thinking, you know, there's no way I can have 980 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,000 the firepower to go against that. 981 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,920 And somehow, you know, it pulled together and pulled up there. 982 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,880 That's awesome. So even in the marathon, the 983 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,800 playoff week still do matter, apparently is, I guess what 984 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,680 we've learned there. Yeah, it kind of does. 985 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,240 Well, it's it's actually sick though Cobbler because in the 986 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:48,040 past the marathons have been done and dusted by by week 17. 987 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,360 Like there there was no sweat. The guy who won drafters 2 years 988 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,400 ago didn't have a quarterback for the final three weeks of the 989 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,640 season and won by over 100 points. 990 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,520 Like it like a lot of the times there, there's like no sweat. 991 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,760 So it is pretty sick that you really. 992 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,000 Got a sweat? Yeah, that is crazy. 993 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,200 And it makes sense too, right, in that, like the J, the 994 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,280 dominance of JT really petered off after what, like Week 11 or 995 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,720 so. So it makes sense that a team 996 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:17,320 could chase him down. Yeah, that was the the thing 997 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,240 that that really opened up the door for me is JT just stopped 998 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,920 putting up those weeks that he was doing. 999 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,480 And then for some reason the Lions decided they didn't want 1000 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,280 to use Gibbs as much down the stretch or they just couldn't, 1001 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:32,640 you know, either way. So those two guys just like 1002 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,520 hitting the brakes. That's what opened up the door 1003 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,760 for me right there because I thought there was no way I was 1004 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,360 chasing down any of this. So yeah, I this is the first 1005 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,200 year I've played like a cumulative tournament, so I 1006 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,320 didn't even know that or else I would have felt even more 1007 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,320 hopeless at the five weeks ago. It's interesting too, because 1008 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,120 JSN actually slowed down too. I mean, he was kind of one of 1009 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,120 those guys early in the year that's like truly unstoppable 1010 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,120 and then wasn't bad at the end of the year, but he wasn't 1011 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,040 dominant in that way. So even there you, you kind of, 1012 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,600 you know, fell victim to that same kind of JT dynamic, but you 1013 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,440 had pits coming on and some other guys scoring points down 1014 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,240 the stretch. Yeah, it it seemed like every 1015 00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:14,440 time somebody was like, you know, letting go of the rope a 1016 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,920 little bit, somebody else was picking it up. 1017 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,400 Is is really what this lineup was doing every week it seemed 1018 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,480 like? So then once you are into first, 1019 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,800 because you were there for a couple of weeks, was the anti 1020 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,360 sweat pretty brutal? Were you combing through rosters 1021 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,320 and figuring out what you needed to fade each week? 1022 00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:34,800 So I, I tried to keep calm. I think I was up there for four 1023 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,000 weeks, so it was a little bit longer. 1024 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,240 I so I at first, the first week I was like, all right, you're 1025 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,000 not going to stay here. So don't get used to this. 1026 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,040 And then the, the next week I stayed there and I was like, OK, 1027 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,200 well, you're probably not going to stay here, so don't get your 1028 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,120 hopes too much. And then by the next week when I 1029 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,120 was still up there, I was building a spreadsheet, looking 1030 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,080 at everybody behind me, sharing it with SAC and Discord and, and 1031 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,880 just saying, hey, man, I think I actually have a shot here. 1032 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,400 And, and Zach was sitting there congratulating me two weeks out 1033 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,280 and I'm like, no, not yet, man. Too much can happen here. 1034 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,000 That's that's classic. Zach sent us a message in 1035 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,200 Discord halfway through the Green Bay game and, you know, 1036 00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:17,440 everyone knows we're in the Packers and he's like, looking 1037 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:23,760 pretty good for the scientists. So it's his fault, OK? 1038 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,440 It's his. Fault. 1039 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,360 Well, it worked out this time. We were ready. 1040 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,600 Yeah. Well, he did. 1041 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,560 He did ask me like the the final week when I was still just a 1042 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,960 little bit nervous. It was looking good going into 1043 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,000 Sunday night. And he asked, can I, can I 1044 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,600 congratulate you in the Discord? And I was like, yeah, go ahead. 1045 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,480 I guess I'm still a little nervous. 1046 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,160 You. Know could you wait like a 1047 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,560 little longer? Well, you know, there there was, 1048 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,080 there was a few things that could have popped. 1049 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,280 There's a guy right behind me that just had a little bit more 1050 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,040 left, but it would have been like an insane like 60 point 1051 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,960 game at the end from somebody. And I was just like, you know, 1052 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,240 if there was going to be history made, this would make sense to 1053 00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:03,840 happen right now. So I'm still a little nervous. 1054 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,680 For sure, Zach knew there was a small chance he could jinx you, 1055 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,640 but he also knew it was time to market the sidekick for playoff 1056 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,000 basketball anyway. Right, I'm pretty sure the guy 1057 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:20,240 behind me was also a a possible user, at least so I think he 1058 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:21,160 was. Well, let's see if he has 1059 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,360 Tooting in. Noel that that. 1060 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,640 That'd be a pretty big giveaway. There you go. 1061 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,800 Yeah. That's that's and I know where. 1062 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,960 Is is wondering if we maybe we should change his name to Mush 1063 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,880 Religious Mush religiousness. Which is ironic because I know 1064 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,720 Zach is very team don't mush things, especially being a 1065 00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:44,920 showdown DFS pro where things can change very quickly. 1066 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,560 So if anyone knows the rules it it should be Zach. 1067 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,680 He got mushed earlier this year too in the discord. 1068 00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:54,040 I I won't out who did it, but somebody was congratulating him 1069 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,320 and, and halfway through a fourth quarter. 1070 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,960 And so, yeah, it didn't work out too well. 1071 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,880 So he knows. He knows for sure. 1072 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:05,280 Yeah, this team in second, like has so many more of the players 1073 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:10,000 who were like big early on, like QJ was a big Q1 guy, obviously, 1074 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,840 Taylor, some random. I mean, you have a Sean Tucker, 1075 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,600 Brashard, Smith team here in second. 1076 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,560 That's pretty crazy. Yeah, I, I think that just goes 1077 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,000 to show how wild a year it was as far as like injuries threw 1078 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,720 off so much and, and I don't think there was anybody that 1079 00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,640 sustained like front to back. I mean even JSN had some down 1080 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,480 weeks towards the end. So I, you know, I just think it 1081 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,080 was just a really different year. 1082 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,560 I don't know if there was anybody that truly dominated 1083 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,600 like and didn't stop dominating. Were you, I know you, you you 1084 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,760 said you didn't get to Max this one, but you, you drafted a shit 1085 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,880 ton of teams on on underdog this year, right? 1086 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,880 Are you up there with the Davis Maddox of the world? 1087 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:54,360 Yeah, usually AM. The past few years things have 1088 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,480 been very good to me. Over the past few years I've 1089 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,760 I've I've been profitable and and so I'm. 1090 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:04,080 Just just be nice, brother. Get that, night nurse. 1091 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,640 Haven't been that profitable. The reason I'm coming on here is 1092 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,200 just to get some of that magic peak dust so that BBM works a 1093 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:14,760 little bit. Better. 1094 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,920 Yeah, there you. All sprinkle it down. 1095 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,120 I think I'm, I'm claiming it honestly, I I'm trying to, I'm, 1096 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,200 I'm keeping as much of the dust as is out there. 1097 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,600 Davis is very polite, You know, he let us all kind of go first 1098 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,560 in line there. For most people I just need a 1099 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,520 sprinkle, For Davis I just need like a snow blower's. 1100 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,320 T-shirt gun I need a T-shirt gun for Pete Dust. 1101 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,720 Well that, that's awesome. So I I assume now after winning 1102 00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:44,200 the marathon you're going to have to 150, Max that and fully 1103 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,280 defend the crown. I I think that it is a 1104 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,760 tournament that's going to have to be part of My Portfolio from 1105 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,400 here on out, probably if they don't get rid of it, because I 1106 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,280 think it overlaid this year too. So we'll see what they do to it, 1107 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,560 you know, next year. But yeah, I mean, after this 1108 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,920 experience, I I can't let it go. Got to, got to try to do it 1109 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,080 again. That's right, that's right. 1110 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,760 Are are you already in the the big board streets or you taking 1111 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:13,040 a breather? I drafted 2 and the sidekick 1112 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,520 kept wanting me to take Alvin Kamara and I thought, well, you 1113 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,520 know, let's give this a little time and see what happens. 1114 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,520 You're going to let the bug fixes work itself out. 1115 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,200 All right, how much, how much money do you think the Saints 1116 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,360 save by cutting out Alvin Kamara after the OR, you know, this 1117 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,120 year, this offseason, how much do you think they save? 1118 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,320 28 million. None. 1119 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,880 They don't say the single. Cent I don't think that's, I 1120 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,680 don't know if that's the argument you're making that you 1121 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,000 think it is, because I think they were happy to just not play 1122 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,720 him last year. They shut him down for we have 1123 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,880 listen this like we. It's accounted for in The Sims 1124 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,600 it. Is it is we're like pretty 1125 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,640 basically what I, what I think he is, is kind of like this 1126 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,800 year's Echoler or it's like pass catching guy who's completely 1127 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,480 free and he helps you do some other stuff, you know, like you. 1128 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,880 Like, see that? Yeah, I The thing is, I've been 1129 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,360 fading Camara since Herzig won BBM 1. 1130 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,280 So right, right. It's just I can't start taking 1131 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,240 him. Down in the DNA. 1132 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,920 It's my brand. No, I feel yeah, I mean, it's 1133 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,160 not, it's not one where but as we were kind of even before we 1134 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,520 ran The Sims and we were kind of had all the inputs and we were 1135 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,600 like checking everything. I was like, we're going to end 1136 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:30,120 up like an almond Camara. You know, after this experience, 1137 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,200 I think I'm I'm starting to just trust you guys a little bit 1138 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,880 more. That's that's one thing I've 1139 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,240 been trying to do the like the last few years has just learned 1140 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,880 that like I need to dial back the opinions a little bit and 1141 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,160 just be a little bit more open to players that I don't like. 1142 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,480 I mean. Did you hear that, David? 1143 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,160 Did you hear what he just said? I sure did. 1144 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,880 Yeah, the. That's. 1145 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,480 God, did you say you can't read? Oh. 1146 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,040 Man, there you go. I love that. 1147 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,760 Just a really positive human note to end on of just surrender 1148 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,440 yourself to our SIM overlords and have no thinking for 1149 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,760 ourselves. No, I love it. 1150 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,640 Yeah, you said you're you're running pure in everything. 1151 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,480 You're a you're an OKC fan too, right? 1152 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,800 You've had a nice run there as well. 1153 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,920 Yeah, OK, see season ticket holder too. 1154 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,680 So I got to go to the finals last year. 1155 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,880 So yeah, it's been an amazing year. 1156 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,520 And actually one of my best BBM teams was I drafted the night 1157 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,840 they won the championship as because I couldn't go to sleep. 1158 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,360 So I had it there was the only one I named in the whole thing. 1159 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,480 You've given up. You've given up Hartenstein and 1160 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,600 Dortz and seven years of first round picks for Giannis or we 1161 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,440 calling it good. No, no, you, you, you got to 1162 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,320 keep this team intact, right? Now imagine Giannis playing 1163 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,640 center in this lineup, dude. That's all I'm saying. 1164 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,440 I I, I understand, but like there's just this, this team has 1165 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,600 got so much depth right now that it can handle as many injuries 1166 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,520 as it has as it has and still be a pretty decent team. 1167 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,720 You you make that trade and you give up that future you're. 1168 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,640 You're just like you're opening yourself up to an injury, just 1169 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,560 killing you. I think the last time we had 1170 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,680 hoops talk on ship chasing was when Gretch accused Pat and I of 1171 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,360 having top shot brain and not listening to him talk about 1172 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,360 football. I think that's actually what 1173 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,680 brought me into you guys, by the way. 1174 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,360 It was top shot. I was trying to think back of 1175 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,320 when I started watching the show as around that day. 1176 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,040 Yeah. Well, I'm glad you know 1177 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,440 eventually got profitable. Do you guys ever sell that 1178 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,720 cosmic Zion? Nope. 1179 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,080 Still. Waiting for the right. 1180 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,160 Time. I do want to shout out a few 1181 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,680 things here. Yosh continuing to pay the the 1182 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,120 thank you tax. Clearly beards are the key to 1183 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,600 winning in 2025. Thank you Yosh. 1184 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,320 And then Mack Nova we wanted to have on but his corporate 1185 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,320 overlords have a muzzle on him. Apparently Mack Nova, who took 1186 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,840 down second place in that big DK Millie for Cool Millie was also 1187 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,680 part of that huge Bijon Robinson sweat experience that Sam was 1188 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,600 experiencing on the other side. So thank you Mac Nova for this 1189 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,680 tip and of course Sam. I tagged Sam and and let him 1190 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,040 know when we were doing this, but I think his 3 1/2 hour sweat 1191 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:20,840 show was was he called himself but on the of the victory laps. 1192 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,720 You know what, Sam? Sam messaged me the other day 1193 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,400 and he said First off he's sick, where he said he would have 1194 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,880 joined to my opening big board. Stream if it. 1195 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,600 Would it would have not been during the Patriots game and I 1196 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,600 was just like, you know what, do you really deserve this in the 1197 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,400 same year, $2,000,000 and you're fucking idiot Patriots going to 1198 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,280 the Super Bowl same year. I don't know man. 1199 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,000 I don't know be. Careful, because they're Pats, 1200 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,480 idiots, patriots. Now, no, the, the, the page I 1201 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,640 like, you know, obviously I'm rooting for the Patriots because 1202 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:58,240 of Drake May, which is, but I also understand that that sucks, 1203 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:03,240 you know, and that like the Patriots, the, the fans, they 1204 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,080 had like 3 years off of not being a dynasty, you know, not 1205 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,240 going to Super Bowls all the time. 1206 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,040 And then they just go right back to the Super Bowl. 1207 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,640 I, I see it, I know it sucks. I'm also rooting for it to 1208 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,520 happen. You, I don't think you need to. 1209 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,240 You don't need to bag defend Drake May in the Super Bowl like 1210 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,600 you already won that bag defending exercise like he can 1211 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,200 lose. I'm not bag defending. 1212 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,960 I'm live. I'm live in the Super Bowl with 1213 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,600 a play a baseball team that has Drake May. 1214 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,880 I heard. You and the team I'm going 1215 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,840 against doesn't, I heard. You were blocked by by Mango, 1216 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,280 Yeah. I'm not fully blocked. 1217 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,920 I've got I've got May he I don't think he has May or does he have 1218 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,200 May? He might actually have May, but 1219 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,400 I've got pieces from May that I kind of need May to be optimal. 1220 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,440 Not, not Darnold. I think that's what it is, yeah. 1221 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,120 Well, we all hope you run pure wink wink. 1222 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,440 Thanks buddy. Yeah. 1223 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,280 Really appreciate it. Any anything else for for you 1224 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,200 guys? It was just a massive year for 1225 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,320 for ship chasers. I mean, you know, normally 1226 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,760 there's a lot of things to celebrate, but to literally have 1227 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,480 multi million dollar wins, multiple people take down huge 1228 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,360 contest on underdog. Pretty sick here. 1229 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,600 I, I've been trying to get people to understand, to feel 1230 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,280 better about the, the way they performed this year in our 1231 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,720 Discord by saying together we won over $3,000,000. 1232 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,120 If you add it all up, it's, you know, unfortunately the 1233 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,920 distribution wasn't quite what you wanted, but we were very 1234 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,760 successful. Yeah, it's. 1235 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:36,040 Mom, mom, Donnie's America, That'd be equally distributed. 1236 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,640 Yeah, I think you what you just proposed was kind of like a ship 1237 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,240 chasing Co-op commune type set up. 1238 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,440 Should everyone just send their kind of mortgages and their 1239 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,880 bills to you and you'll help cover? 1240 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,240 That I, I think there's a couple other options that might be able 1241 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:52,760 to handle that a little bit more than me. 1242 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,560 But you know, we can, we can retroactively see if they want 1243 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,840 to do a split. You know, we just put our, our, 1244 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,560 our pool together and, and, and see what happens. 1245 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,280 I don't know how that's going to shake out. 1246 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,840 If that's going to get me more, maybe, who knows. 1247 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,360 Yes, depends who you're splitting with. 1248 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,280 You need you need Sam to to opt in. 1249 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,440 Well, it's really just Sam and Mac is what I was. 1250 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,640 Really. Yeah, right. 1251 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,920 That's true, yeah. You're, you're even OK with that 1252 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,360 if if those guys opt in? Yeah, exactly. 1253 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,120 They get in there, we'll do an even split. 1254 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:27,000 Seems completely fair to me. Someone was asking earlier about 1255 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,040 ADP chasing I believe. Are you guys going to be back 1256 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,320 Tuesday? That maybe? 1257 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,400 It might be. I think with the the timing, we 1258 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,360 need to figure out the new timing for the offseason. 1259 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,800 So as far as like literally what time of day we record but. 1260 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:47,600 Yes, I yeah, I don't want to be wrong on it, but I believe 1261 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,720 should be back Tuesday, but probably at a different time. 1262 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,120 We'll we'll firm that up and announce that as far as the the 1263 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,360 Thursday ship chasing show probably will take a couple more 1264 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,400 weeks off and then we'll get kind of like back in a rhythm of 1265 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,560 switching to Thursday afternoons now that the the ship cast is 1266 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,760 done on Sundays. But you can join us in the 1267 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,240 discord. The links down below. 1268 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,920 If you want to join the deposit Kingdom discord, you become a 1269 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,120 YouTube member. You can join Gobblore, Mac Nova, 1270 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,960 Sam Sherm and Yosh, all the other big wigs and they're just 1271 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,960 swinging their money around just flashing it at the left and 1272 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,480 right now it is a it is a fun place to to hang out. 1273 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:32,160 But Pat Davis any other things here leg up ranks Davis streams. 1274 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,440 What do you got? We're we're going to be doing 1275 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,640 some dynasty stuff I think reasonably soon. 1276 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,600 I know people are asking about me, Davis and Jacob getting back 1277 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,160 on doing some dynasty stuff, so I want to talk some rookies. 1278 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,840 Pretty soon I'm gonna have a list of guys that are my guys, 1279 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,600 and then Davis is gonna have a list of guys that are Davis's 1280 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,400 guys, just for posterity so we don't have to argue about it 1281 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,680 later. I'm outsourcing it all to the 1282 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,280 Clankers. I have a model now. 1283 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,960 It's done, not built. Wow, spent two weeks in Claude 1284 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,600 Code deep. I even learned a little bit of 1285 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,680 coding to figure out what did it right. 1286 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,600 Is this the slot model? This is the slot model, yeah. 1287 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,120 You can call it the statistical likelihood of achieving 1288 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:17,040 production, or seals, learning about prospects, whichever, 1289 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,120 whichever you prefer, either either of those works. 1290 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,000 The statistical likelihood of achieving production is pretty 1291 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,640 good. You know, it is the thing that 1292 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,840 all slaps wrestle with there. All right, good stuff. 1293 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,040 Thank you again to Gobbler, Yosh, Nova Sherman, all the ship 1294 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,240 chasers. You guys rock and I just want it 1295 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,520 on the record before the the outro. 1296 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:46,880 I absolutely love Adam Randall in drafts right now.