Much like Alexander the Great embarking on the Battle of
Granicus that would begin the serious phase of his career, us
here ship chasing are here as Carne, Alte, Jordan, Tyson,
McKay, Lemon, Casey, Concepcion and Eli's towers wade into the
waters of the NFL Draft. It's going to be a great night.
It's the sloppiest night of the year.
It's chasing picks. Pat Fryer, Helmo Anita.
Hand Job. Fix your sight, Jamar and alpha
play chase. You can't handle the heat.
It looks like we're finally at this point, you're right.
All right, little bit of a little bit of house cleaning
before we get in. I am on the correct microphone
now. My apologies.
Peter is not here. Peter had a death in his family,
so he's not here. We are replacing him with Mr.
Ben Gretch. Your usual cast of characters
are going to roll in throughout the course of the evening.
Soccer, Dave. Ron Stewart, I believe Shope is
popping in for the Buffalo Bills pick.
I believe Laquan is coming on for Laquan Jones coming on for
the Rams pick. We we've got a cast of
characters coming in. And again, one little bit of
content warning, if you do not want the picks spoiled, go
elsewhere. They're a pick.
No, we're not tipping the picks. Are we tipping the picks?
They're good. There's no.
Way we we never tip the pick they're.
Gonna be in the chat though. They're gonna be in the chat.
We're yeah, that we will that we in the chat if we're I was under
the so so when when someone in the chat hits and pick, we're
just going to pretend that we're like in the John Rawls veil of
ignorance for 7 minutes. After having seen this I, I, I,
I I understand, I. Start with whiskey at the
beginning every time. So if I pick 15, I don't.
Know. What's happening anyway, so I
don't really care what we do No, this is this is Good
Housekeeping. What is what is our policy on on
I actually don't know I I'm not sure if.
I would frankly would guess that.
We didn't tip them. I actually have.
No, we we tipped them last year. I've always been a tipper.
I I was gonna say, I would guess that probably when in the pre
Davis era there probably was not pick tipping.
I don't have the patience to not immediately react to the thing
that I just most recently saw. Yeah.
I Whenever you were a guest, when you would come on, I I
remember Davis letting us know when picks were.
Happening. I will.
I will ruin the vibe with that. And frankly, I don't have the
self-control. If I'm gonna stay up past my
bedtime for this draft, there's just no fucking way that I'm not
tipping the picks. I I'm a friend of bartenders and
waitresses all over. I'm always, I'm always tipping
there. You.
Go. So you always would talk about
it live, like whether or not I can't remember what.
It was if, if, if, if, if everyone decides that we don't
like it, we can change for next year.
I'm fine with that. I'm I will, I'm all right.
All in all, in favor of tipping the picks.
I'm. I'm fine with tipping them.
OK, I'm tipping. Yeah, I don't have a strong
take. I just, we gotta, we gotta pick
something and stick with it. What are you drinking?
Guys, here's a tip Hayden Winks just tweeted.
Diana Rossini just deleted her account.
Yeah. I'll, I'll start, I'll start
with a, a real tip and in the sense that I actually don't know
if this is real. Do you guys have this happen
around the NFL draft? People who were like, you know,
or like in your discord, you follow them on Twitter will will
direct message you with like inside information from the
draft. Do you get this relatively often
or is this just me? Sorry, what was the question?
You're getting inside info. Well they say it's inside info.
I mean, who knows if. They're I I get that stuff.
People D Ming you with stuff. Yeah.
I mean, the hit rate on that, I get it a lot.
The hit rate is terrible. I will say my hit, the hit rate
in general is definitely sub 50%, but often times these are
things where the outcome is not. Binary.
I've had. I've had.
Good stuff come through. So the only reason I'm even
mentioning this is the guy who DM Ed me for this thing this
morning was right about something that happened.
This guy messaged me two weeks ago and said Chase Pesantis is
gonna go in the first round. My buddy knows the Bills GM or
something like this and he's going in the first round and he
went from 8:00 to 1:00. I.
Have that at plus plus 1000 so that'd.
Be good. It's like, it's like -250 now, I
think. So you're saying 1 of Shope's
friends texted you? This is not this person is this
person is not related to Shope, but anyone I.
Think, I think Brady actually, actually, he's in my.
He's Brady, my friend Brady. So if anyone, if anyone wants to
try and act on this information, I cannot act on this information
because I am protected by the great state of Missouri.
This this same person said the Saints and the Cardinals are
trading. They're swapping 3 and. 8
because I got I, I got Malanoa at plus 1600 pick 8, the
Cardinals are definitely moving out.
They're just waiting to see they want to move out exactly who's
there before the deal's finalized.
It's one of those deals that's pre agreed to.
But whoever whoever's moving in wants.
I think I got on both sides of this because I have Chiefs or I
have Malanoa 9 + 1000 which I think is actually live if the
chiefs pick there too, which is nice.
But then at 8 is plus or was plus 1600 which is is the Saints
aren't picking them. But that's.
What is? Hoping for Arizona.
What is everyone's biggest draft night wish like?
If you could, if you could do 1 exacta player to team outcome,
you have you have one exacta that you can do I you, you get
to take over one of the 32 GM spots tonight.
You it could be a trade, it could be whatever.
For fantasy or for like our bets?
For for, for fantasy. For fantasy.
No one, No one fucking cares about your prop bets.
Making that rule on this program as well.
No one cares about your prop bets.
I mean, super unlikely, but I would say I mean, like, like not
even going to happen. But it's I'm, I'm so terrified
that Jeremiah Love's going to go to one of these crappy teams
like the yeah, I just don't want to see that.
So it'd be like the Bears somehow like come in and get
Jeremiah. Love.
I would go pretty easily. Pretty awesome.
These teams want to trade down so bad that I actually think
it's it's way more possible than in a normal year for the Bears
to trade up to five. And like the the team trading
back from 5 would lose on the Jimmie Johnson trade chart.
But they would they would still feel fine with it.
My favorite semi realistic one would be Tyson to Washington cuz
he's my favorite receiver in the class and that would be an
awesome landing spot for him. Why do you want him to have a
shitty quarterback? It's too early, too early.
Long night. That's a joke.
I just want to clear. I just wanted to be clear.
That's a joke. The exact same reaction, which
was just a slight head shake and then reach for the glass.
I, I saw a related note. I saw a great, great tweet
today. Someone quote tweeted a tweet
saying what are the anti AI people gonna do when it if it
cures cancer? And the, the quotation above it
was they're starting to talk about AI the way they talk about
Justin Herbert. Now that's pretty good.
That's very. Good.
What's going to be the quickest way to get these picks?
By the way, it's just one of the it's a different name.
Wrong is usually the best. Honestly, I'm hoping for the tip
even that we're a tip picking organization now.
I'm hoping the chat is is now the the most efficient way for
us to get Yeah. The chat, The chat will.
The chat will. I don't want to have to do to do
my own research. I want to I want to the problem
is the problem with the chat is somebody tweets something like
it. It's a it's a tip pick and
they're wrong and be careful because you go through the
emotions. Well, you know, we're going to
keep track. We're there's usernames in here
that are in inaccurately? I was gonna say you guys, you
guys should really be careful because.
In the chat and you're wrong. You're booted.
I have admin privilege in it so we could boot people start with.
A timeout yeah, yeah, start doing the timeouts yeah yeah,
we're. Gonna be, yeah.
Timeout. On your first timeout, timeout
yellow card, but you do a second one.
It's a red card. We'll see a red card.
See you next year. Jacob were the the Leafs, the
Leafs had a playoff game this time last year.
So you've been you've been absolved from having to monitor
both? Dude, I look forward to this day
every year and you bring up the fucking Maple Leafs like get the
fuck out. Just dramatizing him 8 minutes.
I, I don't, I do not want to talk about the Toronto Maple
Leafs, right? Now my, my exacta, my draft
wish. I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep it to
my slappy roots. It's either that Eli Stowers is
drafted tonight, or that Jade Knott gets drafted at all.
Just that Jade Knott, just Jade Knott's name, is called over the
next three days. One of those two.
Things I would love to see Jeremiah love to the commanders
to kind of you both of yours in in the combo the.
Wait. Not play some of the commanders,
Jeremiah love to the commanders. That's a kind of.
That's been super fun. Is the most fun, realistic
outcome, Yeah. It's it's the most fun,
realistic outcome. Carnell Tate to the Chiefs would
also be very fun. I actually, I love going 4, but
I think I think it's the fourth most likely.
I think 4 is most and then next is 3 or five and I just, I just
can't see him getting to seven. Yeah, I think it's more likely
that what Greg said and there's like a trade up happens that's
like really fun than that he just naturally slides all the
way to 7. I don't really like the
commanders that much. So I would I would enjoy them
trading up from 7:00 in a kind of franchise tanking type of
move. Yeah, to get Jeremiah love,
which would be great for fantasy.
So that's I love that you're not even like a Giants fan anymore,
but you still dislike their divisional rivals.
I never was a Giants fan. I thought you were.
No, no, he was. He was a Raiders fan.
He was a. Raiders.
I always thought this was why you were so mad about Kadarius,
Tony. But you were just mad on
principle, Madam. Principle.
Yeah. And guess what?
I was right. Yeah, you were right.
Well, I actually don't know if you were right, cuz I don't.
I don't think you're right. I don't think.
You're he later became a chief does not mean it was a good
pick. No, no, because your objection
was not that. This guy's a head case.
Your objection was that he wasn't any good.
I think he clearly probably was good at football.
You think he clearly was good in the sense of like he could do
some things. He was definitely not a good
first round pick. He looked good.
He had to have been a good pick. Yeah, he just did.
He was a good pup for Dante Hall.
Shit with the ball in his hand. We gave him.
If we gave him Fernando Mendoza's studiousness and
fastidiousness, how good of a player would.
He have then he would have had a great production profile in
college. This is the point.
We can't we can't point to why he sucked into college.
But yeah, we learned 1 hyper, we learned waters.
Yeah, this is like this. You would have been you would
have had this argument about like a week ago where you were
like with Matthew Golden. Really, buddy?
Looks I'm like every shitty profile rod receiver who gets
drafted in round one looks good because there's no way to get
drafted in round one without any production if you don't look
good like if. Omar Cooper junior's gonna find
a way to do it. Yeah.
Omar Cooper Junior going at 16 while not being that flashy in
the production being, you know, Yeah, Ben, make your make your
point on stours. Make your point on stours.
Oh I just saw the clip the the the slap 6 slap 66.
Wow, that's a hard clip. And typically when Jacob gets
pretty condescending to Davis, I'm probably on Jacob's side,
but I couldn't have been more. I couldn't have been more on
Davis's side. Yeah, I mean, just this, this
whole like, you know, the, the, the Gen.
Z condescension with these, these tight ends and the Max
Toscano stuff. And we're doing the, oh, there's
third down tight ends. Like him for wide receiver
reason. Shut up.
Just with the Colts, who you watched growing up, they didn't
do this with Jimmy Graham, who was like, there's still a range
of outcomes. It's it's such a lame take to be
like, routes matter guys, like no one knows and I don't I don't
know, I don't know how much 80 PTC you watch, but the 30
seconds that become clips usually aren't our nuanced and
good faith takes. Usually like it's like the 20
seconds where I'm doing a bit that's like taken out of context
of our overall building and that correlates to touchdowns.
He's gonna score like 14 TDs in a position where if you you're
like the tight end, 6 on the week immediately already and
Jacob's gonna be the guy in the corner.
None of these guys know these run 58%.
Routes forever. He's just gonna be.
Dunking on fools in the end zone like Jimmy Graham over and over
again. I love, I love when Ben and I
can can coalesce and meet on an island and the island is that
this dude can jump over a building and, and the rest of it
is going to. I mean, he taught himself to
play the tight end position in 2 1/2 years and then won the MF
and Mackie. Oh, here's a good one.
Here's a good one. Eli Stowers has more drop backs
as a passer than Jadarian Price has receptions in college.
How about that? How about that I mean.
I don't know if that's bullish for sours, but it's definitely
bearish for price. Definitely bearish for Genaria.
Price Price bears that we got a pick.
By the way, Fernando Mendoza Shocker has been selected by the
Las Vegas. What if, what if we get an all
time shocker here and The Jets are just too worried about
getting sniped and they just took Omar Cooper junior here,
Ron? What if they're just like, dude,
we can't, we can't get, we can't get sniped, bro.
That'd be a great way to radicalize me, man.
Who I know, I know who you want. I know, I know who you want
here, but who do you think is is it's going to be here?
I think it's Reese, I really do. I'm standing strong on my Reese
boys. Last year was the first year I
think we had you on and you're you're content with The Jets
pick. They went.
They went online. Well, yeah, Membu was awesome.
Membu was awesome. I was on the year before where I
wanted Bowers and we took Fasanu, which isn't a terrible
pick, but it's not Bowers, it's not Bowers.
I love it Jets conversations with you all.
Good to see you buddy. Yeah, most, most, most fans.
This is like the best night of the year.
They're just so locked in. They're like, I can't wait.
My team is going to take such a sick player.
And Ron is just like, man, let's get this shit over with bro.
Jets are the reason I'm obsessed with the draft.
This is all I've had. This is all I've.
Had this is the P year we get a top ten pick, I get to learn
about all the best players by who The Jets would take.
So so Ron, if it is Reese, will The Jets beat writers eat the
shit or are they just going to be like Nope, sorry, like it
just is what it is. I.
I know the opposite, the jet beat.
Writers are saying, Reese, it's the Oh, and she'll be saying.
Bailey didn't. They have like the the our one,
our ESPN beat Rich Kamini. He's been here forever.
He has been on David Bailey, but literally everyone else has been
Reese. So yeah, it it's been
interesting. Very, very familiar with Rich
Samini. Is it Samini or Kamini?
I I never. Really.
I think it's Samini. Yeah, Samini.
I just know I, I, he's been there so long.
I remember him from the Stephen. Kamini is a different it's not
Rossini. The pick is in.
Oh, man. Come on.
Come on, Reese. There's no, there's no phone
call for David Bailey here. I don't, I don't give a shit
about The Jets, but I want the best for you Ron, and I want to
win on my. Weight.
So yeah, you yeah, yeah, by proxy you should give.
Yeah. David Bailey doing a lot of
looking at his hands, a lot of twiddling thumbs.
And where's Reese? Is he at the draft or is he at
home? I believe Reese is at the draft
as well. I I would love if they could get
the camera off Bailey though. Please get the camera off
Bailey. Camera on Bailey's bearish If if
if they're both at the draft but they're only showing Bailey.
Didn't Bailey have like pretty bad interviews of the combine?
Wasn't that a Wasn't that a story?
I never know. He had some incident at Stanford
before he transferred to Texas Tech.
It is. It is Bailey.
It's Bailey. No, you're trolling.
I'm not trolling. I promise not to.
Troll. I'm not going to spread
disinformation. Oh.
Man. Ron Ron's going through it
again. No, Rocky you.
Can't be doing the surrender cobra after the 2nd pick bro
it's deja vu. No, not The Jets.
Again, OK. It was looking so good.
It was. Looking let me let me try and
take you off the ledge, Ron, let me try and talk you off the
ledge. Aren't all like first round edge
rushers kind of the same anyway? Like what's really not?
You know you don't take a 23 year old edge rusher who can't
run defend at 2nd overalls. Terrible pick.
This is such important. Jets pick Davis I.
Can't believe it? Ron.
Ron knows this feeling well, unfortunately.
So what does that mean? Does that make?
Does that make a trade up to three?
From the team that was on the yeah, cuz cuz Reese is I think
much more broadly beloved. Like he's higher on all the
consensus boards. Well, he's a.
He's a we're. Gonna get the trade off I hope.
Did you hear that The Jets have a new slogan for for this year?
Aw man, Aw man. It didn't feel real, like now
the broadcast has finally caught up, this fucking guy's walking
out, holy shit. I, I would, I would like to.
He might, he might be. Great.
Maybe. Maybe he's going to be the next
Vernon Goldstone. Oh, that's so mean, dude.
That's that's honestly mean. This.
Is just on the call. Before.
That was too mean. Bro that.
Was. Probably.
A bridge too far, but kind of. Funny.
It just was looking so good. Oh, we got another surrender,
Cobra. The odds came.
The odds were shifting so hard to Reese.
I was like, oh, maybe I should like emotionally hedge and just
like put, no, I everything. I thought it was going to be
Reese. I mean, the whole time, but
especially today, I thought it was the double win.
OK, I just really. Who's on the couch behind us?
Tell us about this lovely support animal.
That is, that's Winnie. She is.
She's a French bulldog and she's just, she's just chilling back
there. She doesn't know.
Anything about Arvel reef? Yeah, she, she doesn't have a
clue. I mean, she sees me root for The
Jets. She hate, she has like a a Jets
shirt that we put on her before and she, she hates it.
Like honestly, rightfully so. So like we, we've had to retire
it. So.
I I I did just realize this makes the Chiefs trading up to
three, which is murmured by the beats, marginally more likely,
and that I'd I'd get a surrender cobra out of me.
I need this is probably why we need the Cardinals or the Cards
or the Chiefs of the Saints to come up would be would be great.
Was am I correct in in thinking that this pick, the Bailey pick
was probably driven more by the coaches?
Is that was that the reporting around this?
The coaches wanted Bailey because he seemed like he was
going to hit the ground running. Yeah, like, I guess the, the,
I'm not super in the weeds on the X's and O's stuff, but I, I
believe like he fits Glenn's defense more than Reese.
And then also you can make the case at like Glenn's coaching
for his job if he doesn't want like a project.
Oh. You can make that case.
Yeah. Where are you at on that?
These these what the idea was like Bailey's plug and play
right? Like he's an actual edge.
He's a pass rusher, whereas Reese is more of.
A my issue is that Reese can play 3 downs no matter what and
Bailey could be a grew down player who we already have with
Will McDonald. Who?
OK honestly I'm being so serious who cares if this guy gets 8
sacks his first year? Like, do you honestly care?
Yeah, 'cause we have Will McDonald, you do.
Well, this is not a good take, David.
It's like like passing on Hutchinson.
The Jacks passing on Hutchinson was like a huge mistake.
It's like cost them like you. You got to pick the right guys
up top. Like Will McDonald got 8 sacks
last year in 15 games and no one gives a shit about Will
McDonald's man we took him over JSN.
I literally won that. I was.
Literally you. You could you could have given
me 1000 guesses at who Will McDonald is.
I would have never gotten to. That's the issue.
Schematically is like the Will McDonald is is a pass rush only
not very good against the run. That's the same round, but then
we get. Murdered in the run game.
So it's like you can't really like both of them together,
doesn't make a ton of sense. Whereas Reese you could play at
stand up linebacker on early downs, you could bring him in as
a pass rusher. And the person my issue is more
just like the age and like Reese two years younger, He's like a
higher pedigree player. He's he's higher on all the
consensus big boards. Like, but he was #1 player in
the draft with with defenses being way more like they're
doing more of the like 5 man fronts and all these different
things. Like, I mean, I'm sure Bailey
can do a lot of stuff, but the whole point with with Reese
isn't it, is that he's like fits into the modern like trend of
defenses. Like, yeah, we're we're trying
to be like Amorphis and he can do a lot of different shit.
Right, Right, right. Isn't it like kind of
embarrassing if you're a defensive head coach?
And then you have you have two options.
You have like this blue chip player who requires a lot of
creativity to scheme up. And then you have another player
who everyone's like, yeah, he's more of a plug and play, but
like a little lower ceiling. And you're a defensive head
coach and you're like, I, I can't figure out how to use this
this Reese guy. Like give me give me the safe
option. That seems like a bad what for
what you're bringing to the table.
If you're the defensive guy and you're like, I don't want the
creative chess piece. I can't figure out what to do
with this. I mean, this is the part
probably for for Ron. I know it is for me when it
comes to teams that I root for, that is the hardest part.
It's not just the individual pick.
It's the the what it says about the process, right?
Like you're like, well, if you're, if you're not seeing
what I'm seeing here, then there's going to be a lot of
other bad decisions coming here or like like around it, you
know? It's tough because things were
looking up with Muji. Like I love the membu pic.
It's just. Let's go.
Welcome to the show, David Kitchen.
Titan's future is so bright, I've got to wear.
A shade. Got him.
Those Jets. Hey, Ron.
Going on. Oh man, Oh gosh.
I'm already in the March and order, boys.
I I didn't think this is possible, but this is crazy.
This is crazy because I've got a three legger that might just
happen. What is it in USA to win gold?
Rory to win the Masters? Why are you trying to steal my
whole flow? Dude, what are you?
This is Dave, this is my domain. Insane.
Three leg cross sport parlays are my deal.
That's what you told me and so I just did 2 gimmes with Team USA
beating Canada and then having Rory win the Masters.
Is this a real? Chad saying love to.
The I can't tell if this is a bit Yeah, it's a bit.
No one. The Cardinals pick love.
It's real. Cardinals take love.
Pick is in Oh my God. OK, this franchise has nothing
bro. No Mojo.
No. Juice, this must be an owner
thing. This must be like an owner
forcing. You OK?
Is this is this an Andrew Wiggins situation in which in
which the player is drafted but then traded before ever playing?
No, because they didn't Reese have more 3 seconds after the
pick. You're asking that question.
It's it's no, it's kind of a disaster, but it but it can't be
true because all the rumors of the trade up was for Reese.
Like it was it was the Saints and the chiefs are rumored to
come up for Reese. Nobody was coming in 3-4 times.
Just got the like the number two guy to fall in their lap right
here. Yeah, but they might take
styles. Some some people are saying they
would take Styles over Reese. So like the group chat, Some
people in the group chat say that Reese isn't like in the
Sala mold, but I say like, take him and develop him.
He's like. Obviously, the mold.
Yeah, no, I like the dude barely knows how to pass rush.
Let's Sala teach him how to pass rush and go from there.
But yeah, like I think the you know this.
Took love. RIP to the round $7.00 Algier
Bros Tough tough. Take it Algier like idiots.
Holy shit, time to check. The I mean, I mean RIP, RIP to
the people, Algier guys. RIP to the people who were
taking Jeremiah Love over Kenneth fucking Walker in pre
draft basketball drafts, buddy. Couldn't be me, couldn't be me.
I have not done a ton of pre draft basketball content but
every chance I've got and I have absolutely laid into that Tyler
Alger ADP that is. That was the worst ADP of all
time. I'm sorry if anyone here is
really bad but. We thought it was all smoke with
the Cardinals, like trying, like saying they wanted them so that
people would trade up for love to three.
This is great, I do. Hope I had 2% Algier so.
In a OK, you know you know who in my.
Underdog. I'm willing to bet I have 0
percent, 1.5% too much Algier. You know who the the biggest
winner right now is? Pretty.
Sure, it's a 0 for me. Cam Cam Scataboo's gonna be like
a third round pick. Cam Scataboo's gonna go ahead a
brief. Yeah, Scataboo's gonna move up a
lot. Well, that seems a little high.
I mean, he's still injured. But yeah, you should definitely
move up. No, no, forgiven.
Oh my God, it is. Bill.
Bill, dude. My 21% JCM is love and life
right? Now let's go.
Bill is and. Rashad White guys Sean White.
Okay, all right, Can I mute? Can I mute Corinne for sure?
Sean White is a great pick is a good pick.
You know Rashad White on 1/2 PPR website?
Why JCM White White is good straight line speed.
His whole issue is he's got like cement feed and can't get going,
but you give him Jane Daniels athleticism that that's what
that opens up like he's going to break every running back in that
offense is broken off long runs, Jeremy Mcnichols, Chris
Rodriguez, all these dudes. I don't even like Rashad White
but that's the thing that like he needs is a is a really
athletic, dynamic QB that will give him 13%.
Rashad White baby. Can't believe you missed the
ball. This is heartbreaking.
I thought I was gonna have the 0%, but I have.
I have 2%. Tyler out.
You have 2%. You have as much as I do.
You're chasing more percent. I have the 2% ball.
What is it? What is what is it?
The beach towel. The 2% beach towel.
Yeah, the 2% beach. Towel I I actually like, am
stunned, stunned by this. Yeah.
What happens? A horrendous choice.
For. Jason Moore just tweeted the
Cardinals just drafted the most expensive running back in the
history of the NFL. Now you can't make this crap up.
You know the Ballers are just going through.
It right Oh, they're going. Crazy.
Oh, they are going through it, wiping their tears.
With all those dollar bills. By the way 18% Tony Pollard in
the pre draft. Yeah, yeah.
I survived. Like he That's a good.
Dude 00 some 0 running back drafters in the pre draft.
Best ball stuff. They're like rooms that have
like White and JCM and Pollard all on them.
Yeah. I was drafting a lot of Pollard
because I thought he might get traded as well.
I thought Paul was going to be a win no matter what.
Right? Right.
Exactly. If they draft Love, then maybe
he's a starting running back elsewhere, and if they don't
then he's he's a starting running back on Tennessee.
I still kind of hope that Titans trade back this pick, but I it's
going to be really hard to now with, with kind of Reese falling
into their laps with the, with The Jets and the the Cardinals
doing what they did. Why?
Yeah, how? Why not just take Reese?
It seems to be kind of a no brainer here, right?
Well because you also need like receive, you could trade.
It depends on what teams they're offering but you could trade
back and get a receiver and wait like they take Tate.
Is Casey fucking with us? No way.
Cardinal Tate just went 4. All right, Casey.
I haven't. Is that official?
I haven't seen it yet. Oh, my God.
It's an affirming it.
Yeah, it is. It is official, man.
All right, Gabe, man. Cobra.
I have a Tate dude no that's gonna be so bad for my What a
weird draft. Is that is this even that good
for Cornell Tate? No, he's bad.
This is bad. It's bad for the Titan Tate.
It's OK bad. I think it's OK for Tate.
I mean. Tate is it good for the Titans?
No, it's bad. No, it's bad for the Titans.
So bad for the Titans. I'm not totally convinced it's
that bad for the Titans. I mean, they the plan going into
tonight was they were gonna take a fucking running back.
This is, well, that well, Carnell.
Tate's probably not good straight up.
Just go, Ben. I've been waiting.
I've been waiting for one. Person to agree with me.
God, let's go. Yeah, I think it's a totally
fine pick for the Titans. I would have taken Reese, but
I'm I'm way more than he had a sub 2 yards per out run both of
his first two years. He got to three this last year.
That's good. And he didn't 3 is very good
routes. He got hurt.
Yeah. No, it's good.
He got he missed some games. Super, super small sample of one
Goodyear and it was all efficiency.
No, like Yak or after the catch, like broken tackle stuff.
And also like didn't really earn targets.
Like it's it's the profile of a guy working off of a really
great receiver and benefiting from that.
Not this whole thing where we're like, well, if he would have
just not played with Jeremiah Smith, he would have been
awesome. I mean, he kind of probably just
sucks. I I totally disagree with that.
It's a really bad take. He he was like he was behind
Harrison. He's behind Ibuka.
Then then Smith breaks out as a freshman like this is the wide
receiver factory and he gets in there.
He finally gets a a real opportunity in his true junior
season and he has an awesome season, a highly efficient
season, very productive. Not that awesome.
Yeah, it's a it's a pretty it's a pretty good season.
It's not like he didn't amazing Malik neighbors type of season.
I mean he missed some games. Like I I don't like yeah, like
875 total routes. I I mean he had 51 catches
because it's it's the only good thing in his in his sample at 51
catches, like that's not that good.
He's got to do more like to to be a a top five overall pick.
That's and then he's not even like that athletic or anything.
He's I don't know. I mean, if you're there's a lot
of like he's working off an elite receiver.
Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase both put up numbers.
Jarvis Landry and Odo Beckham both put up numbers.
The elite Ohio State receivers all put up numbers.
Even a lave even a lave was the older one who got trumped was
way better for three years than Tate was in one.
Well not way better in all three years but he had better multi
year metrics than Tate. Sample of production in one
year. Like it's it's are you looking
at raw stats in a year? Kitchen Kitchen is trying so
hard to think Gretch is wrong. Gretchen is like no.
I'm not even listening. I'm not even listening to
Gretch. I'm like, I've got the late
round discord, I've got the group chat.
Everyone just losing their mind right now, you know I listen to.
Perspective Gretch Are you Gretch?
Maxing the chats? Accusing.
You, Gretch. Probably Gretch.
Is Gretch back? I do have some good news, which
is that quantity very used to holding the jock of wide
receiver won Jeremiah Smith. He will now get to hold the jock
of another wide receiver, one Wandell Robinson.
So that'll be a good experience. I I want to be clear, I'm not
saying Tate's like undraftable Pat, but like the fact that he's
getting top five and he's he got drafted 4 like this is Ben Ben a
running back? I mean, that's a bad class.
It's but it's a bad class. Run back in three like he's not
no. It's a bad class when like the
number two overall guy, like the Titans couldn't even get him.
Yeah, trade for him. You know I would.
Have taken I would have taken Reese, but like I would stop
putting Reese aside like all the other blue chip players
remaining are are non high value positions.
Like you could take a safety, you could take a linebacker.
OK, OK, OK, fine. Set all that aside.
Talk about what I said about Tate's profile.
What what am I missing about his profile?
That is like the highlights they're showing.
He's getting single covered against Ohio.
That's what you get when you play opposite Jeremiah Smith.
I'm sick of the thing where like we got to we got to give him
credit for shit he didn't do because he was playing with a
really good player. But we can't do the opposite
side of that, which is that that actually benefits him too
because teams are not game planning for the 4-5 speed 200
LB guy. When you have a a Megatron on
the other side, that's who they're doubling.
That's who they're rolling a safety over.
How did he not do more? Every other good college multi
talented like that good 2 multi good receivers.
Both players did more than what Tate did.
Tate was not good, even Brian Thomas alongside Malik
neighbors. His efficiency was that much
better than Tate's like it's it's not that impressive.
Honestly, what he did. I don't I don't think Brian
Thomas's deficiency was better than Colonel Tate's.
Is that Are you sure that that's true?
His yards per targets per outrun were lower.
His his yards per outrun were lower.
You're right, but he ended up IA lot near actual yardage because
he ran a lot more sure and then the Tate so team missed a couple
of games. I don't care, but Brian Thomas
had 17 touchdowns like that's I add that in a little bit on my
on my side. OK, that's a fuck ton of
touchdowns. Yeah, he played.
He played thirteen games to 11 and I like at a five star
recruit he had 27% of the yards. Compared to wait, wait, wait,
wait. Boxes out in this he bought.
What's up? There, I think the Chiefs just
traded up. Let's go.
Well, they're going to get Reese now, right?
That makes sense. Or or styles.
Or no, no, it's it, says Giants. Giants take Reese.
So the trade's A6. Giants take Reese and the Chiefs
are moving up to six potentially it looks like.
OK, is this for styles? Downs would make sense.
I told you that they might. I don't really.
I don't really want downs in his
bulky knee and I certainly don't want to trade up for.
Him. Are you sure it's 6 if they
trade take? Towards the Tyson, OK.
Dude, if this is Tyson. Could be Tyson if this is Tyson,
if it's if it's Tyson, I'm taking my pants off like let's
if the chiefs, Tyson, Bryce or Tyson, I don't want Tyson or
the. Chiefs, is it too late for me to
change my son's middle name? Fuck or she that's crazy because
they need an really wants Sadiq. It really would be Cadarius.
Tony Maxing what? Sam nailed it.
Sean wanted them to take Sadiq at 9 like.
Pretty clearly. When we were recording the last
bananas. I don't I don't like that guy.
I'm not into that Sadiq. I mean, not not Sean.
I like Sean. My my would be the guy where
I'm. Like my guess if they're trading
up, is it Styles or Tyson? It it's Styles or Tyson, I think
if they're. Trading.
Why would it be Styles? Didn't you just overpay your
Bolton to play linebacker? Do.
You think the idea? They need downs.
Makes downs makes more sense than styles I, I.
Believe and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the the NFL
would think of styles the way the Cowboys thought about
Parsons, which is we're gonna take this ball of clay and mold
them into I don't I. Don't think Styles is perfect.
He he's he's already a converted safety to linebacker.
I Who did The Who did the Giants?
Reese of the Parsons the. Parsons, Reese.
Right. Giants.
Yeah, Reese. 'S oh God dude.
Fantastic fucking pick. Way to go, Giants.
If they're if they're trading. Guys might get.
Like Tyson at 10 now. I mean they they could.
Chiefs traded 974 and 148, apparently.
Yeah, they're gonna, it's gonna be, it's gonna be Delane.
It's gonna be Delane. They're then they're gonna be
like, we, we, we, it's gonna be, they're gonna be like a they're
gonna be like a dynasty manager who traded, you know, Saquon.
Bark. They only move over three spots.
On Mario and Hampton. Five years in one O 8 to get to
6114814800. No, someone else saying one O 8.
Did Reese already go? Yeah you went to the giants.
You think they're trading up for Concepcion chat say it's got to
be styles right? Wait, who's who's the guy that
likes more? Definitely wouldn't make it to
90 down. It could be styles or it could
be downs. It's it's going to be, it's
going to be Delane, it's going to be I.
I can see the logic coming out of the trade now.
Trade up for Delane at six. I mean it's my point.
Wouldn't trading the way their quarters they gave up seven to
develop 148 I've steam. Coming out of my right now all.
Right. So they're saying that Delane
Corner, that's Delane is coming in as the pick for people.
That's such bad asset management.
If it's Delane, they took Delane, they took Delane.
We're seeing Delane. That's terrible.
I mean, there you go, but there you go.
Why did they freak over on? Oh my God, there's people.
Why would they trade all their corners away for assets just to
combine all those assets to trade up for another corner?
Because Brent Beach fucking sucks at his job and got bailed
out by the greatest player in the history of the game for
fucking 8 consecutive. Season Also, Are you sure?
Are we sure Elaine wasn't making it to 9?
And if Elaine didn't do nine, that means we.
We surely are not sure that Elaine was not going to get to
9. We're not going to be up here
again. Let's get our guy.
There's no, there's no justification for this trade.
It's so bad. Davis Would you rather have
Clyde Edwards, Hilaire in the first or trade up for a
cornerback? I'd literally rather have the
team that just won the goddamn Super Bowl because they were
picking at 32 and they took Clyde rather than the shit
roster with no good players anywhere 74 Whoever they would
have taken at 74 would have started for them week 1.
Yeah, look, I mean, so, so Manny's saying Delane is really
good. I don't dispute that.
If they took Delane at 9:00, that's completely reasonable.
But like why are you trading up when the defensive players in a
similar tier? Delane is behind downs and
styles on almost every big board.
I'm not going to act like I'm Mr. Cornerback Scout, but it
just it doesn't make sense to trade up, spend assets to go
take a defensive player who might have been there at 9:00
and if he wasn't, you would have gotten defensive players that
people like more anyway. All right, well, maybe Justin
Herbert was too much confidence. It's the, it's the
overconfidence thing that we know with, with the NFL draft is
how you get into trouble. You you have to be willing to
play within tears, love and take go top 4 you're like all right,
we're getting somebody falling if that's the guy you want, he's
falling to us. The trade's off the table at
that point, like even the. Downs Downs is going to like go
it like pick 10 this is. Styles.
So Washington, everything I've heard is if Washington gets
styles to drop to them, they're they're sprinting to the podium.
Hey. Will you, will you highlight?
Will you highlight Jim's comment, please?
Corrine. Jim.
Jim Horexi. It's Polish.
I didn't say it right. Any chance the draft gets thrown
out? Any any chances?
Draft gets thrown out. Dude, just think about everyone
that studied all these picks, all these mock drafts.
I would say it's like, you know, a long, long, long shot that
anybody's got the top ten. Like, perfect.
Oh. God no, but I do have a Styles
plus 450 at pick 7 ticket that I'm sweating right now.
I'm just enjoying lovely mom watching half of the show has
done a surrender Cobra for their favorite team.
I'm just waiting for the Colts to trade into the top.
You guys, you know you can't pick today, brother, I'm safe.
I'm safe till tomorrow. You know the process.
Like we traded it up. We traded it up even more for a
shitty cornerback. Whoever holds the stick gets to
talk like you have to. And it's like, hand me the stick
so I can talk. That's what this stream is,
Except the stick is anger. Whoever is the angriest.
This would be the only time. Of the flying with the conch.
Everyone just pissed off the conch.
Yeah. The conch, Yeah.
This was their chance. To make in the top. 10.
You're I'm the angriest though, right?
You're not angry? They could have taken Carnell
take. Dude, I.
Dude Giants low key could be back.
What a great I mean, the Giants did the smart thing.
They just sat there at their pick and they packed the highest
guy on the consensus board. Good for them if.
Anything. If anything, the Chiefs should
have wanted to trade back from 9 given the way that those first 4
picks went. He.
Trades up in this draft yeah this is crazy gosh, what an.
Idiot and. By the way, and to to trade up
for a guy who I think is over under was like 10 1/2 like he
was, he was projected to be available at 9 like maybe he
wouldn't have been. Is this guy, is this guy balling
down? Does anyone, does anyone know,
is this guy at least good? Yeah.
I mean, he's a really good prospect.
There's also some scares if you want the trade up if they took.
Him at 9:00. If they took him at 9 it would
have been completely reasonable. Brugler has him at the trade up
for no reason. Brugler has him ahead of David
Bailey. There's really not even another
corner worth taking the. First, OK, OK, is is this a
corner? Is this a corner like he does,
he's great hand fighting blah blah blah.
Or is it like this guy will go match up against Jamar Chase and
erase him for like it'll be not? Fucking.
Yeah, I'll get you. I'll get you excited.
This is this is his Bruegler's quick write up.
An alpha competitor who projects as a starter despite his average
size. No, Come on, man.
Come on dude. Projects as a starter and you
move up from 9:00 to 6:00 and give up like another top 75 pick
and another top 150 pick. If you're wondering, by the way,
Davis, he does turn 23 during the season.
I'm gonna fucking. I'm gonna do.
I don't think I can. That was a good cherry on top.
I'm gonna get a drink and then I'm just gonna do Gretch's Tate.
Take this word for word, but replace Tate with Mansour
Delane. Have you seen those come on
those new like Instagram, Instagram memes where they take
like people's tweets, whatever they turn to an emo song?
I feel like Gretch's diatribe about Tate could be turned into
an emo song just for. Typing.
I'm sorry I did that. While you were on the air.
Pat, Pat said it was a really bad take.
So I, I really went in and I apologize.
I have followed. You want to hear more of a
Gretch take? Just be like, bad take, bad
take. You're gonna get more.
Not over.
You guys do you guys this is. You may not talk again you.
Guys want to feel even worse about the Delaine pick.
So the Chiefs defensive back coach who's turned all these
third and 4th and 5th and 6th rounders into starters, you
know, Dave, Dave Merritt, I believe is his name.
Like, oh, he's a huge part of what we do.
Institutionally important. Big reason why we haven't signed
the defensive back to a second contract since Eric Berry.
He got arrested this morning for domestic violence.
Not a bit. True story.
So. So they were like, we got to
trade up and draft good defensive backs now.
But come on man, I just going to jail it literally this is.
Styles, let's go. Let's get some money on the
board. There we go.
You have the underage styles, is that right?
No, I have them. That's I have them plus 450.
Pick 7. At 7:00.
Nice. Congrats, that's all that.
Do we think Mahomes cares? Yeah, I think he probably does.
Do you think Mahomes like texted Veitch and he was like, I don't
think I don't think your. Offense is going to be fine.
I think Mahomes is worse at evaluated prospects at Veitch,
which is saying a lot. Reading the Hawaiian T-shirt is
so fucking good. Man in the war room just got
palm trees on his back. Don't even show me Brett Veach
right now, dude. Like literally don't even show
me this guy. Davis What is?
What's Dal? What's what?
What's Dallas thinking? I think they might.
They might try to. They were up for downs.
I was gonna say, I think they were trying to trade up.
They were trying to trade up for styles is what do you.
Still have your connection with the Cowboys, Davis?
Goulet High School buddy. Who's the linebackers coach?
No. Well, maybe.
Brown I traded with the Chiefs so my Mal and Noah 9 is still.
Alive I assume? I assume Goulet buddy is not on
the team anymore. Gosh.
What a great start to the draft though.
Like I said, I wanted. To just be great.
No Dave, no Dave. Bad start to the the.
Fact that no one's happy means it's a good draft.
Like it means that it's. Yeah, it's been.
Great. It's not predictable.
Like you want that to happen. You want.
You want expected. To happen.
I got a great my expense. I love the guest whose teams did
things they probably didn't want.
I haven't figured out if Kitchen stocked himself in a Tate yet.
Kitchen Kitchen's definitely going to be counting Tate in
August. As I get off of here, I will, I
will be a Tate maxi, you know, by the time I get off this, you
know? Yeah, you'll be like Andrew
Tate. Over Tate I.
Wanted I wanted Tyson like I really thought the Titans might
trade back to get Jordan Tyson and so with that being said,
I've been telling myself and also the ZAP model has been
telling me that Jordan Tyson is the you know the guy you want,
not that it has a bat. I mean, Tate is number 2, but
Tate probably will be #1 now I'm guessing with this, with this
high draft capital. But no, I think the Titans, I I
mean, they're if Cam Ward is what we think he is, then Tate
might be in a good position, You know, like.
He's not gonna be terrible. The thing about the like.
Oh, don't walk it back now, Greg.
Stay there. No, stay there.
It's like, it's a little bit like the Bronte.
Pod No. No, I'm on that side.
I'm very much on that side. I think I made that clear.
It's reminiscing A Devante Parkers final year, which is,
but I mean even Devante. I just pulled it up.
Wow, can I say? Can I say he had more yards per
game in his final year than Crystal Lobby did in his final
year? I just, yeah, I don't I think
you're really penalizing the raw stats, which is not we know
that's not a good one. Guys don't take it in his third
year. That's his third year.
That's that's. Rich also hated me just about
that first. You guys, you guys, Olave's,
Olave's second and third year were meaningfully better than
Olave's third year or, or fourth year or his.
His third year was over 100 yards per game.
He went back to 78. If you want to do the Rostats
thing, then like, let's be clear.
Olave's face is was frozen for me and just the perfect pose
right there. Lava only had 50 catches in his
third year, which he only played seven games.
I'm seeing now, but he was better in years two and three
than in year. Pretty small sample, Gretch.
Well, it also took Crystal Lava until his fifth year in the NFL
to have a 20 point game, so maybe point.
Gretch Yeah. And.
The thing is, Olave is the only example that is even close of
the of the really good NFL players that play Tyson, Tyson,
Tyson. Jefferson.
Nick, score one for Nick that. That didn't do very well in
College Kitchen. So Justin Jefferson was awesome
in college, and Jamar Chase was awesome.
Right. Tate wasn't good in college. 3
yards per round wasn't true. Junior is really good.
Like you're, you're working here is really good, CJ.
Stroud and Joe Bird in. His third year he was really
good like that and and what would you reasonably expected in
year 1 or year 2? Like he comes in as a five star
prospect. He's stuck behind three guys.
He immediately boxes out Mylan Graham and Brandon Ennis, who
are good prospect or good recruits in their own right to
earn playing time over them, becomes a third guy in year 2.
And then when he actually has an opportunity to start in year 3,
he has over 3 yards per row run. I don't understand the I get it,
he's not good. It's a lot of qualifications
overall. But like yeah, saying, saying
he's a rich at 4th overall is fine, but he's a he's a very
good prospect. So he ran 300 overall, really
strong junior season. He ran 384 outs in his second
year. So like this thing of like there
was other good players. You have a Buca and Jeremiah
Smith in that. Scene No, I know.
It's like punishing an Alabama running back like back in the
20. 20s and like punishing. I'm saying we can't give him
credit for stuff he didn't do. Guys, I can't take anymore.
I'm sorry. Just like this was supposed to
be a good night for me as a Titans fan.
I don't know what's coming on here to get it, Finn.
It's supposed to be a good night for me too, Dave, so sit here
and fucking suffer with the. We got, we got a, we got to get
cooter der on here for for the same.
Spec let's go. Chuck Hyde, we up.
I know I'm kind of excited because now I don't think we
take wide receiver. We might go Bell Round 2.
So. I have.
I have very. Bad news for you on that you.
Did in fact take. A wide.
Receiver. No.
Did we really? I ran upstairs.
Oh. Tyson.
Yeah, you got Jordan Tyson. Well, I'm OK with Tyson.
I'm OK with Tyson. But I was kind of hoping we'd I
was kind of when we go bail around too.
There you go. Everyone who's coming on the
don't, Yeah, future guests just don't come on the show because
it's gonna hit whatever you do, whatever you don't want to
happen. If Jason Curtis is out of
control. OK, Tyson's not bad.
I don't have a television up here.
I ran upstairs. OK, well, I'll take it.
Man, I was hoping for Bell round two.
I really was. But that must mean he's healthy,
right? Well, there's got to be some
really good nicknames for the wide receiver crew of Alave and
and Tyson. Like the blue tent brothers, the
sore Menis guy. Never once broke a tackle,
brothers. Yeah.
Is there going to be room in the tent for both of them?
All right, so hold on. Big enough for the both of us.
Tyson could be. Fun Tyson could be fun in that
in that offense. So do I, I.
Love Tyson. It's just funny that he is kind
of Chris Alave. He is kind of right.
But do I put a bet on? Yeah, Super Bowl right here.
Oh yeah, At least to win the division, at least to win the.
Demon. Right, that's what I'm thinking.
I'll do it after this, but I'll I'll drop $0.10.
Yeah, I was gonna say you need a 10, you need a $0.10 parlay on
like Jordan Tyson, Offensive Rookie of the Year, Saints
division, Tyler Shuck, Offensive Player of the Year.
They. Probably won't let me stack it
all 'cause you know they don't want us to win.
Some. Sometimes you can, sometimes
they will. They will let you do it on the
futures, on DraftKings, sometimes they won't.
It depends. I'll try.
The amount of incredible winners you've had at the 10 cent level,
I wonder when it's true the 20, are you, have you, are you
starting to get worried you're going to get limited?
No, no, I don't think so. If they've recently done the
reverse to me, this is how you know you're giving it the sports
books, exactly what they want. You know, all my boots and
everything used to be like Max 10 bucks, Max 20 bucks.
Now, like my NHL, like goal parlays are like you can get up
to 100 on this brother, like you're good to go.
It's like a tip box opens up. Would you like to add 20% to
that pet? They saw they saw one Nathan
McKinnon goal, Vinny Pascontino home run, Rory McIlroy to top
five, the Masters parlay and they were like all right, man.
You like you got a deposit match e-mail the second you put that.
In. Dave, we can.
We can let you go. You can go.
Thank, thank you. I, I, I appreciate that and.
Hey, great new logo. On the hat, yeah.
Yeah, Well, Gretch says something positive about the
Titans. Yeah, don't get, don't get used
to it, No. I hate, I hate the logo.
It's like awful, minimalist, modern and crap.
I don't like it either. I was just trying to say one
thing nicely. The new logo is awesome.
The alternate logo sucks. The new logo is awesome.
I like the. I like the new logo.
Yeah, Carnell Tate is is a stud. The only thing I'm disappointed
in is that I don't have, I've got so much Cam ward.
I don't think I have any Cam ward.
Tate stacks in the earlies so. You know what, I'll at least say
it's better for fantasy than for the Browns.
I'd rather Cam Ward throw. It in, yeah, Browns fans, I
think 100% they're right now they're going through it because
like they thought they were going to get Tate as Ohio State
and Cleveland like, like, I don't you know, whatever.
I think the Browns were always going online in in the first.
I think they're opening up. They replace smarter 123 rookie
receiving yards. Is is Maclaurin going to get
pumped now, now that the Commanders didn't take Love like
they're they're going to be a more pass heavy offense and they
didn't take a wide receiver? I got 2 words for you.
Jig a conquo. Yeah, I'm with you.
Yeah, I like. Jig all right, see y'all.
Thanks. See ya, see ya.
Later, Dave. Guys, we got Ian Harts hyping up
New Orleans, so that's all I need.
What's? Up.
There you go. Nice.
Tyson is really, really good. Like if he did not have this
weird hamstring thing, I think it would have been universal
across the draft intelligentsia that Tyson is a better prospect
than Tate. It was weird because I almost
didn't think he would make it to us.
That's why I when I ran up I thought y'all were saying
someone else like Washington took him whenever I was popping
in because I didn't see the pic and yeah I thought he was going
to go sooner. With I, I'll have to run it
again, but I'm pretty sure with the overall draft capital, Tyson
is going to be ahead of Tate in my stuff in the in the slap
model. It'll it'll be interesting.
I mean Tyson was my pre draft 1. I assume Tate is gonna be the
consensus one in dynasty drafts cuz he doesn't have to deal with
for Salave and he went first in the draft so it'll be.
I don't know. I'm gonna have to decide on how
I rank it as I sleep, honestly. Is there a lemon spot that could
get him to 1? I like Lemon more than Tate
right now. I'm sorry more than Tyson.
I. Had a the the lemon to one spot
lemon. Tyson.
Win. It would have been the only It
would have been. It would have.
Been I was, I was. Tyson won.
Lemon 2, Tate three. I have a hard time imagining I
won't have Tate at least two given he got the 4th overall and
he's done. Here's here's what you could do.
Go look at his career game log. Go look at the fact that he's
played A6 College Football Playoff games, I think in the
last two years and gone over 50 yards once.
Hey, I was the one who just said I had Tate at my wide receiver
three. No, I mean, you're really
getting one potential alliance. You're stoked on him.
No, I I think I'm sticking with Tyson.
Why? But Lemon?
Let's go, man, Let's go. Let's just give it.
Let's just give it to him. Oh, I'm going hard on Tate.
This guy, this guy is like, this guy is like is like SEC Corey
Davis, you know, or a Big 10 Corey Davis like a knife.
Yeah, guy Guy who comes out of Ohio Browns.
Browns fan out some 3 yards per out running goes 4th overall.
That's a very good bet. Say something other than three
yards per route run. He went to like 3.05 again, 3.02
outs volume. Yeah, didn't even get the 3.05.
Sorry. A low routes volume.
Like, sustain it over 400 routes for me at least.
All right. The Browns are sustaining their
investment in the trenches. They've selected offensive
tackle Spencer Fano 9th overall. I don't know who cares, but
that's what they did. Don't didn't didn't like
literally all of their offensive lineman either Leben for agency
or retire. Like aren't like aren't they
literally they replaced? Most of them they they, they
replaced cuz they got Howard now at right tackle.
They're gonna have Fano at left tackle.
I forget like the guys that they signed to.
Play, you know? You know what would have been
nice? Just took the Chiefs just to
stay put and take a a 300. Pound, Caleb Downs, tackle.
Or just take Caleb Downs my. My favorite player in the entire
draft at pick 9. Does Gretsch freeze when you
talk shit? And routes.
Thoughts. Am I frozen?
Yep, now you're back. Now you're back.
Every time you talk shit about tape, Pat freezes it.
It is. It is true.
Somehow the Browns always have good drafts.
Like everyone's always. Like dude, the Browns scooped a
bunch of value and then they win two games every year.
I I mean, 'cause they browsed the quarterbacks, they signed
the worst, they made the worst trade and signed the worst
quarterback deal of all time. If if the Giants get Reese and
Downs. Remark.
That's what I'm saying. That's amazing and.
They're I'm on record. I would have taken Caleb Downs
at two overall if I was the New York Jets.
I I think he's going to be a transcended player.
They're going to get Downs here. I didn't even realize that he's
still on the board. They can get and they can get
the 2 college teammates. Downs and Reese pair them back
up together. Oh, Downs that just remade their
whole defense, I mean. And they have Abdul Carter.
And they got Carter like that's and they got Brian Byrne still
look. That's just just between us.
Like if I became a Giants fan like would everyone look the
other way or like. I would.
I would I would look the other way.
I think The Jets, assuredly, I think, I mean, I think they
crossed the Rubicon of their fans, should have abandoned
them. Three years ago, a long time
ago, that's. More than three.
Yeah, more than three. The thing is like when Mark
Sanchez. Acceptable.
Like if of all franchises to be like, I was a fan of this team
from my youth, but I chose to go a different direction.
Like, no one can blame you if you're a Browns fan and that's
your choice, right? Yeah.
No, that's my dad. That's my dad to turn on.
My dad has been a lifelong Browns fan and after the Watson
trade, he's just like I'm out. Fuck this.
Great. Yeah, good job.
Who'd he switch to? I'm too.
Old out to care. Oh.
He just he they killed his energy so bad he didn't give a
shit at all. All right, Downs, Downs is still
on the board the Giants take. It's not.
It's Malanoa. Malanoa, sorry, my apologies.
You guys. I was a giant.
Very different dates. I I but my pronunciation is
corrected. His is.
Wrong. Yes, I I the the Samoan names.
I don't think I've ever gotten it right.
We need that clip. We need that clip of Davis
saying it and Jacob saying the actual correct name, right?
Fine. Well, you can't do it.
You can't do it phonetically with the with English phonetics.
It doesn't. The G has an N pronunciation.
It's malanoa. OK.
I should know that from. It's a didn't hear AG and not
hear AG. Yeah, a kui bunum.
I remember being like Pat and and Pete because you got them
believing it was a kui bunum and they were gaslighting the shit
out of me that it was a kui bunum because you had told them.
And I was like, no, no, no, I still don't.
It is not how you say this guy. 'S a wag a wag bunum.
Right. It's like pretty like a quake,
actually. Yeah, it's just like a quake
bunum, I think. A quake bunum.
That's all right. So we got an Alberto mentioned
in an hour into the program. So good stuff.
Good stuff there. Actually, I have AI have a
question for our Saints fan here.
What does Saints fans want to have happen with Alvin Kamar on
this backfield? Do you want him to retire?
Do you want him to be traded? Do you want him to to?
I mean. Like what do?
You. I thought we should have traded
him a year or two ago. Honestly, I like, I felt like we
held on to Michael Thomas too long.
I felt like we held on to him too long.
I felt still. On the books, I think.
Michael Right. But we just do these things
where we just double down and we just keep them on the roster
forever. So I would have been OK with us
trading him a year ago. But he doesn't he?
Not want to play like, didn't he say he's basically like, I live
in New Orleans and I will be in New Orleans?
Apparently, I don't know how true this is.
This is probably just gossip, but word on the street is
they're very lenient with like him having to follow certain
rules for workouts and where he can and all these things.
And so I think he just, it's a good fit.
He likes it here, you know. He's good.
I'm not saying he's not good, but I just think we could have
gotten a good bit for him a year or two ago and changed things.
Well you could have, but the issue is is he makes like a
bazillion dollars relative to the to the running back
position. As you're.
Saying the. Culture there that somebody in
the chat writes. I still do shots with Kamera on
Decatur sometimes. Yeah, I believe it.
I think, I think guys like that he, he's, he's a, he's a
franchise legend. I I think guys like that like,
like, do you know how sad it is that Jamaal Charles was a
Jacksonville Jaguar and a Denver Bronco?
Yeah. Like it's.
Just a bummer to know that exists.
I would never want, I would never want Nelson to.
Yeah. So keep paying him 10 million a
year to make sure that that doesn't happen.
On the other hand, I think it's kind of funny that Zeke was a
patriot and then came back to the Cowboys like that.
That actually, I think I'm glad that happened.
You know, not all were bummers. That one's kind of funny to me.
Yes, correct 100%. Tyson is really crying.
He's bawling his eyes out. He is.
He is crying, Crying. He's crying like my newborn
infant son when he's ready to go to bed.
He's not having this. He realized Tyler Shuck's about
to be his quarterback. Hey.
Careful now. Careful now.
This is a decidedly pro Tyler Shuck broadcast.
Oh God. Hey, don't hate on the shock
demon. So what you're?
Hating on Andrew Tate now you're hating on Tyler Chuck.
So have the the Dolphins have not picked yet, correct?
They they've got. To think down some of the
takedowns well, what I'm. Saying is for fantasy football
is if. If Lemon does not get picked by
the Dolphins here, we start to end up in some really fun.
Like what if he's the wide receiver too on the Rams?
What if he's goes to? The Ravens like.
We get to some really interesting I.
Don't think so. To the Ravens.
I have them, I have them, I have them with you, Ron, I'm I'm once
again aligned. I got.
A plot Ron, please stay until The Jets take Omar Cooper.
Junior instead of. Makai Lemon.
That's the that's the plan, man. If Lemon and Cooper, if Lemon's
there and they take Cooper, Cooper, Ron, Ron is.
Ron is grabbing his pitchfork and he's marching to get one.
Jets drive like it's January 6th.
Like I might have to mail him a Giant's jersey.
And really, Yeah, I'm really trying to help him out for the
rest of his life. Oh God.
OK, Drew Aller at 16 or Omar Cooper Junior at 16.
What's? What's really prefer?
A lot, of course. I literally prefer a.
Lot. Yep, Yep.
No time Min, Time Min cannot. Time Min cannot go at 16 because
he's contractually up. Isn't it cinnamon?
Cinnamon, whatever. He he, he literally he's like.
Cinnamon with a lisp? What?
What's the if you, let's just say hypothetically drafted like
a metric ton of Makai Lemon on DraftKings over the last two
days, What are you hoping for now like?
Rams What's? Good Rams.
Rams. And then what?
They trade Adams. They.
Just 33 Adams is Adams lives on a farm upstate and he's actually
much better. There are a lot of tough landing
spots in this range. I to me that's a tough best
fault. That's a JSNS year 1 landing
spot for Makai Lemon where even if he's awesome, he it might
take a couple years. Yes, fair.
It's a tough, it's a tough area after like from this range for
the next like 10 picks. It's kind of there's not a lot
of teams. The Jets are though for you,
Pat, the Dallas Cowboys take him and they trade George Pickens.
Yeah, there's a lot of like and another transaction happens
that. You.
That's the Yahtzee. Yeah, there's a lot of Cowboys.
Cowboys would be the Yahtzee, Yeah.
That would be fun. And you're, I mean, you're
reducing the contingency because if once they do take Mackay
lemon, if they take Mackay lemon, the odds of a Pickens
trade have just increased pretty, pretty substantially.
You don't want him to go to the Dolphins.
You definitely do not want. Him to go, I do not want him to
go to the Dolphins. Yes, thank you for that.
Might be what's not to happen. Unless we're all wrong and Malik
Willis just balls the fuck out. I mean, it's probably it's like
sub 5%. Dolphins just, I don't even
think there's enough pass volume even if he does, like it's just
one of those things, like even if he's really good.
There's gonna be that one week, Gretch.
When you play against him, he's gonna fuck you up good.
That's. So true.
That's so true. He's gonna 222 touchdowns on 4
targets. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's
definitely yeah. I don't know is there enough
target volume there with Greg Dulcich?
Play. The false flag himself returns.
Roll the clip. I might actually roll a clip
when the whoever the dolphins take, I might roll that clip.
OK, where? Eagles at 23 is what you want
Pat if he falls all the way to 20.
Oh dude, if he's if he's still if he's still at 23, that would
be a giant fall. Well, he was really weird at the
combine, you know, and. Did you, did you see his?
They were, they were talking to him yesterday.
I don't know. Did you see the interview?
No, he, he, he basically was like, yeah, I mean, I acted
really fucking weird and I wish I wouldn't have done that.
And that was like a weird situation.
And so I, I, I regret that. So I, I think he at least has
the I think he at least has the knowledge.
How did he say this? I haven't heard this.
Was he like? Did he say like I was really
fucking weird dude and this? Lady, this lady, he did, he was
still kind of making the face in the interview.
He, he honestly really was. Let me, let me honestly, let me
see if I can find it. What was the initial weird thing
I missed this it just. How did you possibly miss this?
Because there's I'm not that plugged in right now, dude.
I'm coaching. Cowboys JB High.
School softball right now. Cowboys traded up Cowboys.
Oh, I think it's gonna be for Downs.
It's for. Downs.
Yeah, it's for. Downs.
But yeah, so grich, it was like guys watching it, his interview
realized what it was like to be a girl at a bar at like 2:00 AM.
He was just talking to that mic, like, come on, baby.
But in a way where the the mic, the mic was like pulling.
Back. You're not picking up my signs,
dude. Share Put my put my put my
screen up so that we can show this to to Gretch.
This is he was he was just he was just talking to reporters
like this. He was making this face.
He was like licking his lips. It was very, very bizarre.
Yeah, it was lusty. Lusty.
Yes, yes. It was, it was lusty.
It was lusty. He was locked in.
Yeah, he was too locked in. That's weird behavior, Cowboys.
Steph's pumped over here. That's pretty big.
They moved up. I mean just the one spot,
probably don't have to give up a ton, but it's more like moving
up what, 5 plus spots? I mean, you get a player that
probably should have gone a little.
While again. Right, I think he should have
gone in the top five man. I mean, especially like I don't
people, I don't think that the whole like undervalued position
thing applies to safety. Like I I think safety is just
legitimately actually undervalued.
Like I think it's just way more important than their pay scale
suggests. You look at the truly elite guys
and what a difference they make. And I mean, maybe Downs won't be
that guy, but I I think that would be a home run.
Well, especially, especially with the the progression of of
modern NFL defenses in the last like 2 to three years.
You can make that case really easily.
That has officially Caleb Downs is the pick at 11.
It's AI mean it's a great pick hold.
Up Cringe. Share my Share my screen again.
Like Nicki Man, Warrior was the best pick of the draft last
year, probably in this he. He's still kind of doing it when
talking about the interview. He's still kind of, he's still
kind of like making weird eye contact.
Like I, it's still, it's a little, it's a little strange.
No, he seems you can see the, this, the there's, there's a
trace of it, but he's not doing it.
There's like a soul behind the eyes here, you know?
Yeah. It's kind of like he's not
possessed by a demon in this. Particular.
Day You're, you're right, Michael.
Bob, I do remember Bob Sanders. We went from like the 5th best
defense in the league to the 28th, depending on whether or
not he was available at a given time.
Bob Sanders was sick, Davis, in that clip, It's sort of like
he's talking to his, like, friend's sister, you know, So
there's like a little hint of it.
But he's not doing the full full court press, you know?
So that's what that's the vibe I get.
It's still a little weird. Yeah.
So does he. Is he the pick now for Miami at
12? Probably, Right.
Who? Shouldn't.
Bane, that's a lemon. Yeah, I think, Bane.
I don't know. I think they should look at all
these really, really good players.
Because that's going after these 6.
Miami needs secondary, but they they obviously weren't going to
takedowns if they were willing to trade back that easily.
They need a line so that maybe it's like freeling or or I'm
thinking Miami should just not take any receivers because I
like things that are fun and fancy.
Yeah, me too. Don't take I'm with you.
I'm not rooting for Lemon to go there.
I'm just, I'm just saying it seems kind of likely.
I hope not. I'm good, I'm good on.
You it is their biggest need. Who's their number one?
Take it on 122 Atwell, right? Now Kaylin Tolbert.
They got needs down the board man after Malik Willis and a
Chan. OK, but here's their current
receiver room. But by our lads.
Their starters are two two Atwell, Jalen Tolbert, it's
terrible. And Malik Washington.
Their backups are Dodge Washington, Theo Wiese, AJ
Henning and they also have Terrace Marshall sitting back.
There Theo Wiese famously Alfred Luther burden their final season
at Missouri. This, this guy right here, was
frame mugged by Theo Wiese. OK, but those seven dudes, not
one of them should be higher than a #4 no, A roster?
No, no, maybe not even that, honestly.
Certainly not. Is I.
Really don't want lemon to the dolphins that I.
Really don't want. To that are you I'm free.
Surrender Cobraing, are you No bullshit drafting a lot of Greg
Dulcich? Cuz I think it kind of makes
sense. Yeah.
No, no bullshit. I'm drafting Greg Dulcich.
Yeah. There you are.
Just 20 rounds, Ben. What am I not gonna take?
Greg Dulcich. Yeah, of.
Course seems like they're. Best pass catcher at the curb?
Also like, I'm like this of the league right here.
Like why not of the top receivers, Lemon I think is also
even the worst fit for the Malik Wills experience, right, for
sure, like all of them is not easily.
Like at least with Tate, you could talk yourself into well,
he's not going to get that many targets anyways, but it's going
to be downfield. It's going to be efficient.
You know, how much more should I want to talk about Tate if he
landed on Miami, but that would have been you wouldn't even have
to talk shit. I just would have been, I would
have, I would have just let you go because at that point I'm,
I'm like, I'm, I'm moving on to other things to do with my
lemon. I mean the whole the whole goal
of lemon is 160 targets, but that that would be a 61% targets
per route run to get you to a. 100 and. 60 targets on the top,
so I don't think he's going. To get there.
Also like, yeah, the thing with Tyson is that I don't really,
I'm not as I don't basically I think his his profile has some
some red flags that maybe I see that other people don't or.
Like I'm a little. Bit out on a I'm a little bit
more out on Tyson than some of the other guys that I love that
cooter that we respect. But the the thing with Tyson is
I do acknowledge the ceiling's really high.
So like him going to in on Tate and out on Tyson, like you're
just straight and Tate's better than I have Tate.
I had Tate lemon Tyson ranked like that.
I have the exact inverse of Pat. I was Tyson Lemon Tate.
But what if I told you Tyson has three hamstrings?
Are you good? Do you change it at?
All I am good. That does help.
An extra hamstring helps. But the thing for me with Lemon,
what I like about Lemon is like there's just so many offenses
where Lemon goes there and I'm like this is gonna work right.
But I don't necessarily think he has this like not mega mega,
which the Dolphins is not one actually not the Dolphins
offense. You mentioned that, but it's
like it's not like he has this mega shifting perspective, but
he just fits a bunch of offenses where from a fantasy perspective
he can crush I if I was going to bet on any of these guys.
To like overcome. The Dolphins lemon would be my
last pick of the three. Yeah, I I want to be clear when
I was asking, I was curious because I'm not really sure what
a Santa Tyson haven't done enough work on him necessarily,
But if you got Rad Tate above him, then clearly you're really
down on him if you're seeing positives and Tate that are are
better than his. So I'm I'm going to I'm not
moving Tate up based on this ranking.
I'm just moving Tyson down. Well, like, you know, the the
route stuff is like he didn't run that many routes in any of
his years because I mean, partly because he was banged up, but
like he was on like really. But his best year is on a super
run heavy offense. Like it was a Cam scataboo LED
team. Like they he, he, he was never
like driving the offense in a way that it seems like he was,
he was really driving the passing offense.
He was really driving that was a run heavy team.
But he he still has a career. Targets per out run.
Of 31% like that, every time that he's been on the field,
he's on the targets passing game, right?
I understand it's on a team with weak receivers and all that
stuff, but that's almost literally double Carnell Tate's
career number. That's impressive.
Yeah. Yeah, I think.
There's some context wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait that makes the. Floor quite a bit lower.
I think, wait, why are we waiting?
Wait, the Los Angeles football? Rams just took Tyson.
Is this a? Tip.
What? I.
I tie Simpson. Did we miss the Miami pick?
What about the? Miami pick.
What about the Miami pick? Did they pick yet?
Why are we getting Ty Simpson or Pick Simpson Blazer?
Per Jay Glazer, Oh, it's AJ Glazer, so he's.
Saying they're going to do it, but it's not.
Even. Oh no, it hasn't even happened
yet. Yo Jay, here's the thing about
Ty Simpson. Yes, Rams are fucking terrible.
He can't play football. And that's.
Like I don't, I don't want to get Ramsplained about Ty
Simpson. He sucks.
I also do not. We had we had Jalen Millroe,
who's a running dynamic quarterback who went in round
three last year and he had higher yards per temp and more
adjusted yards. I've seen receivers younger than
fucking bum ass Ty Simpson did. So I'm not going to entertain
Dan Orlovski in this band of merry friends telling me why
this guy sucks. He's a scrub.
Gretsch do the do the small sample size thing on Ty Simpson
because it's fertile ground, man.
It's fertile ground. I love the Rams.
I fucking love the Rams because they do.
They March to the beat of their own fucking drum and God bless
him for it. Like it's probably a terrible
pick, but I have no idea. Look, I mean, I mean, it's good
for him. He'll have success cause great
setup for them. If you hit on a quarterback,
it's a huge it's it's fucking huge.
So like, I understand the impulse.
I don't think Ty Simpson was a good pick here.
What kind of L4L5 separation is? In Matthew Stafford's back right
now, brother. I mean how cooked is his back if
this is? Is this a worse pick than the
Chiefs trading up for him? Ron, where?
Where are you at on this besides?
Kuka, they I'm not a rookie. They saved us.
They.
Saved us. Ron's as happy as I've seen.
Hey, you know who's a who's a big win?
For is dynasty superflex rookie pick I would bet right?
Good point, good point. We just got a lot of extra value
in the later. Is this is this a safe space?
Is this a safe space I have? I have so much Ty Simpson in pre
draft basketball 'cause I thought he's bad for this round.
I think he was going in the first round to the Rams.
He's. Not going to play it's.
Not Stafford's back, back. They just know Stafford's going.
To retire soon. They did it with quorum.
They did it with Jarquest Hano. They did it with Jimmy.
Jimmy G might retire. They're they're drafting their
backup because Jimmy G's return. Yeah right.
But they're long excellent. Their long term dynasty.
No, no, it's terrible if you have if you have Simpson in
basketball, that's awful. But if if you in dynasty it's
incredible. Where's he from?
Mcveigh's from Georgia. I think he's obviously played at
Alabama. He's from Tennessee.
OK, I wonder if. I wonder if.
McVeigh, like knows him or knows who did him a little bit.
Kaden Proctor. What's going on with this
Proctor? Oh, so Bane is?
Still hanging around. What am I so all my all my boys?
From like are the Ravens taking thinking?
Like football? I think they're going to take
Bane, I think. It'll be Bane.
OK, I've never heard this quote. Before but.
God, what was it he said? He said something like looks
like a lion, plays like a lamb. And he said that's Kaden
Proctor. He said he's like the softest
offensive lineman he's ever. Saban said that.
No, my boy who played college football.
Oh, God bless your boy. God bless my boy.
I. I have no way to know what's the
source on that. Just an anonymous person, you.
Guys think you guys think I know shit about watching offensive
line play? Brother, like my boy who played
at at Hutchinson Community College, knows more about
offensive line play than I do. I can.
I guarantee that I have Hutchinson in my spreadsheets.
Well, did. Quarter L Patterson they played
against. Cam Newton when he was at Blinn.
Blinn's another one. I got these in my fucking.
Spreadsheets, yeah. I'm trying to think of
Hutchinson. Is there a JUCO guy in this
class that I'm one of the one of the chief?
Benson. Malik Benson.
Go Malik Benson. In your spreadsheets.
That that I don't. Know they're another that.
Was a great. Player to see these spreadsheet.
He did. He went to Hutchinson in 2021
and won. He was like the freshman of the.
Year he was dude, he was awesome at Hutchinson Malik.
I promise you Ron, spreadsheets have more information than The
Jets fucking GM. Spreadsheet.
I guarantee I'm taking that. I don't think that's the one.
Just drive. I think that's actually a little
rude. This is an NFL franchise.
Ron. Let's prove ratings.
They know that. Do you have the Madden ratings
in your spreadsheet or not? No those.
Those I do not have. On me, OK.
Well then you don't have no chat in the chat wants to know if
you've. Gotten a Tyson jersey yet Or if
you are waiting to order it, you know he I got to be in the Dome
when he scores and then it's. Locked.
Got it. Nice.
That's how it works coming it it.
It will take a little time, but it's coming.
Have you been to? A Saints win?
No Sir, I have not. Oh.
No, been a while. My mom gave up the season.
Tickets 'cause they wanted more money before this season
started, when it was really bad, they were like.
Also, the price is. Going up these teams are.
So did you go to games this year at all though?
Yeah, we went to a handful. But not nearly as many.
They were all they were all losses.
You're saying so I've still been to a I've.
Seen my team win in the Superdome more recently more
than senior I. Dude, I believe it.
We don't. Even need to Fact Check it.
I believe it. That was the.
That was the line, the last. Time after I came down and got.
To see my Washington Huskies. Win in the Sugar Bowl a couple
of years ago? Yeah.
Years ago, yes. You have not.
Broken that streak yet? Yep, my kid, like always.
Roots. Against the Saints because she
just has. That in her like the only way
she cares about football is like, I'm watching your team
lose and she's right every time So she's rooted time and time
again, you know, amazing. All right, well, we had because.
Of this, this unexpected pick here.
Let's let's get Laquan's reaction.
Yo, what's going on? Hey, hey, not too much, man.
How's it going? Simon bro my.
God. This.
Is not what I wanted. Like I got.
To be honest, we are. We are.
Hitting at 100% ever It's.
The theme of the show. It's like this this stream.
Is cursed, man. Every person comes on here and
is angry. Like, I'm not angry.
Let's just say that I'm happy. With the pic.
Because there's a plan for the future, but I hate that they
just listen to the outside noise trying to push Matthew Stafford
for two years now into retirement.
We don't need to worry about the quarterback position.
But I'll say this, though, I'm here for the Ty Simpson project.
I'm here for Matthew Stafford eventually.
He is 30 day. All right, chill out now.
We saw Tom Brady play. Well into his 40s I think.
Stafford's on the same path. Why not?
We just saw Philip Brothers come off the couch last year in dad
bod full mode and come out and play an NFL game.
Not that he was out there lighting it up, but he was able
to go out there and perform and use his head.
You know the football IQ. But Stafford has been playing
through many injuries. I mean, God, I mean, the San
Francisco game where he runs that option, Sean Mcvane never
run that again, please. Where he injured his back, he
still finished the goddamn season.
What are we talking about? Like, I don't think that this
pick, this is Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers, you're giving it
like 3. Years for sniper?
I like, that's what I'm saying. Like for dynasty managers,
they're like, OK, yeah. I feel a little different about
time now. I'm invested, you know, and I
feel a little bit good about sitting here for him than going
to Arizona and having to start this year.
Yeah. And.
The thing is like if he did go to Arizona, I.
Did think he was going to start anyway.
It might have been another Drake, May and Jacoby percent
situation. 4 weeks, all right, RIP them out of here.
But yeah, I, I, I feel like this is going to be for the future.
And again, it's obvious that, you know, they want to keep
Stafford in the building at least into the offseason next
year. But again, I'm not ready to push
him into retirement. What are we doing?
Like, he just got the MVP. There's no reason to push him
out. Literally the same as Lovin
Rogers. Right after he got the MVP,
they. Drafted a first round tag.
That's crazy. Yeah, that's exactly how he went
on and got. Yeah, he got he won two MVPS
after right he. Won two years after.
Yeah, it was. Yeah, it wasn't after the MVP
kind of bad before. Yeah, he was coming off the MVP
and then had another MVP. Season and then now I think it
was before both do you think Stafford is about to get like
into drugs and. Conspiracy.
No bro. Absolutely.
He's a big. Ayahuaska Guy.
All of a sudden, those Stafford. 'S gonna be on Pat.
McAfee every Tuesday? Not.
Absolutely not. Stafford.
I hope that he's not. Looking down that path, but more
so the Brady path, I'd rather see him Stafford in his
retirement, having fun going out there and living his life, you
know, and like I, I like tequila time with the lights on, you
know? Yeah, tequila time was fun when
he was with the Bucks and. He was on his way out, right?
Like. I want to see what Stafford
looks like, you know, chilling into the retirement as a future
Hall of Famer. Me and Laquan win this one.
It was after the first MVP. They drafted Love OK, 2020 MVP,
2021 draft pick and then he won the MVP again and 20 to the to
the double down that they didn't need to do that.
But obviously, you know. Jordan Love is looking good.
Hey, Love, was all of that stuff that Stafford's winning the MVP
again This. Year exactly that I feel like
we're going to the Super bowl I mean obviously I'm.
Gonna feel that way, but I honestly think before we even
made this draft pick, everybody was saying the Rams are going to
the Super Bowl. So again, we're running up with
the 2020 draft. Not 20.
Oh, he just didn't play in 2020 or.
Something we're gonna because Aaron Rodgers is one of the MVP
dude. Yeah, yeah.
But that's don't start until 20. 21 I'm wrong I'm.
Wrong. You're right.
You went Ty Simpson. Wow I didn't.
I literally tweeted I. Was like, I'm not trying to see
him go at 13, but I guess here we are.
I would have traded back. I would have traded back.
But again, it is what it is. I'm happy with it.
Whatever. Can I ask a question while
you're here, just as a Saints fan?
January 2019 Tommy Lee Lewis Did he deserve the call or not?
The no call Roby Coleman didn't do.
Anything that's so dark. Nicole Roby Coleman.
Was innocent. I didn't see anything.
What? Are you talking about?
Are are we being? Serious right now, I mean we
bringing that up guys still and. Gretsch Yes, I.
Was in the Dome for that loss as well, so yeah.
Damn and then COVID hit the final year.
That's crazy. Insane bad times, but yeah,
let's not bring that up I mean hooter, nice to see you.
I I was just in your city, not. Too long ago for the HBCU.
Legacy Bowl good grateful I met Shyla LaBeouf also found.
Him. Randomly, he was everywhere.
Yeah, it literally. And that was like an.
Understatement. He was literally.
Everywhere. I swear I saw like headlines
about that. Bro he was like 15 miles.
Away, down this way, downtown. Working out and doing whatever
and then he's like on Bourbon Street, literally just
everywhere. It's insane.
We're seeing reports of maybe lemon.
To the Ravens. Is that real?
I mean why like zay you, you have two you.
Like you. Already don't use Zay Flower and
then you're gonna do Zay Flower Part 2?
Yes, that's a rough one. Just got his. 5th year contract
What? What are we?
Doing. I don't like, I mean, it's gonna
be. That's a real Kristy part.
Two right now. Is Devantez Walker, so it's
it's. Just gonna be an interesting
offense 'cause like I understand Lemon can play outside.
I'm sure if they're taking him at 14, they're gonna plan to
play him outside plenty. But they've always had this
heavy personnel identity with Lamar, with the multiple tight
ends. I mean, they they let likely
walk. So presumably it's going to be a
more 11 based offense. Like I don't think you take
lemon, who can play outside, but has has been, I think at his
apex as a slot receiver and then play a ton of 12.
That would seem really odd. So, but you don't you you got
Declan Doyle, the youngest OC in the NFL, right.
I mean he's ready. It's gonna be a different a
different offense. I think Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait for sure also didn't take these might have been bad tips.
They took a big Ioni. Oh, here we are, bad mouthing.
Now here's. What?
Here's what. This.
Jeez guys, now this. Time Out would have just been
talking about they didn't say Levin to the Ravens.
They they just said the word lemon.
That's interesting. Here we are going to a whole.
We're about to break out the. Eclidor Look I.
Didn't like the free agency? They're going to win.
Their whole offense in 11 person we can we can spit anything man
give give us any hypothetical pick we'll do 5 all right well
well this is this is real now because we have the bucks they I
mean take them it's got it's got to be Sadiq right this has to be
Sadiq but. Kaden just got signed back
though, like I think they like. Kane.
Kane is good. Ron, Ron, me and you are about
to be. On on the.
Similar. Wavelength here because you got
a lot riding emotionally on The Jets and I got Mackay Lennon 16
+ 1400. So let's just say we're so it's
equal your whole childhood. It makes me the.
Balance, man, I got a couple 100 bucks on this and I got like a
$7.00 bet on this. Hey, we have a, We have a.
Ben. Albright tweet which can mean
so. So many things, but this is what
Ben Albright said about the Chiefs, who forgot the helmet he
he said Kansas City got. Quote.
Head faked by Washington leaking the cornerback rumor.
That's so embarrassing if you're the Chiefs, if.
I mean. If Ben Albright is right, just.
Fire Brett Beach, bro. Yeah, you're coming back.
From this man. Who got who got so faked worse,
the Chiefs or Ben Albright? When JK Dobbins forgot where his
helmet was, he was actually on Dobbins.
He. Was Bro Dobbins?
Yeah, that's true. I feel like Veach was trying to
set himself up for this though. Didn't he say like last week?
Man, some guys are gonna go away sooner than you think in this
draft and you know everybody like you.
Look, I feel like he was sugar coated.
No, but I feel like he was trying.
To just be like, you know, be ready.
So that he didn't look, you know, as bad he's doing, he's
doing when Ryan Gregson took Philip Thorset and stormed out
to the podium. Saying we had him ranked in the
top 15 on our board. I can't believe he was there.
Right. Right.
Yeah. Rod, you look stressed.
What? Who?
What is? What's the top?
Top 2 for. You right now?
What's the one in London? Bain's still on the board.
Bain. 'S still on the board.
You're getting Bain's got to go to tail.
Needs pass rush. More than anything, they've got
to take him. You're you're thinking just keep
loading up at the edge. You, you already gave up on
Bailey. You just want Bain.
No, I'm just, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking through
scenarios right now. I just keep the.
Good players in front of us, but that's all I'm asking for.
Bain and Lemon, that's all I'm looking for.
How could Bing not go to Tampa though?
I'm still. Thinking full the.
Whole deal with Tampa is like they need a they need an edge
rusher. There's not going to be 1
available at 15. What are they going to do?
I mean, people were even not mocking Mesidor to them at 15.
I, I think by the way, you got to give a little bit, a little
bit of AW for the. Analytics people here 'cause all
the ball mowers were telling us like, oh, Mesidor doesn't matter
that he's 100. Literally.
Oh, what's the guy with the huge usage?
We're not quite there yet. David Brett.
Brett Coleman. Had the thumbnail on his.
300,000 view YouTube video today that said nothing matters.
Could he not mush this Like the more you talk the more left he's
going at 15? No one said he was going.
This is all. This is all this is no.
Just did. I just did.
I just did.
A mock draft this morning. The the the.
Spots for these guys on the consensus board on under.
The more you talk, the more I was like logged into bed 365
putting 100. Dollars on mess to go to the
box. Like if Mesador goes round one,
it's AW for those people. I guess, I mean he is 100, so I
guess that's fair. We're still Mesador overall.
Can't. Can't it?
Be AW or an L when? We like Fast forward 4.
Years and. We see if he was any good.
I think that's how we determine if it was a isn't the isn't 22nd
on the consensus board, David, I don't.
Know what? No bait.
Bacon was 90. I thought you were talking about
Mesador's age. I'm talking about both of them
collectively. Oh, Bain, having short arms.
Yeah, that. I think is so did Aaron Donald's
community, so. Did Aaron Donald?
I hate that. Angle on them.
I don't have players. You'll get to a first size.
I think it's it's like the, it's like the T.
Like. You.
See Jay Jay. Glazer's tweet here, it says
that the Rams are drafting Ty Simpson with the 13th pick.
Shawn McVey actually told Stafford today of their decision
and made it clear from whenever Stafford decides to move on.
So it's they're put it in his court.
There you go, Bain. Bain goes.
Bain goes to Tampa. That's.
An awesome pick for. Them I think you lead the ball
in Stafford's court. And you start that development.
This year, like you start fast tracking that 'cause we want him
ready as soon as possible, obviously, right?
If McVeigh and Sneed both or signed extensions those years, I
don't know how many right now. I don't know if those are
public. But yeah, like Sean McVeigh is
like two kids in now. He's ready to go.
He wants another ring. Like I know he's itching.
Like he's he's built this from 2017 up to this point now.
And like a lot of the cards have like fallen apart in certain
positions, but we recover, we bounce back.
Like look at the running back group, look at puka duku cup,
etcetera, etcetera. And like I feel like we have
never actually developed a quarterback.
He inherited Jared Goff. I mean, Sean Manon's an
offensive coordinator right now for the Eagles right now, right?
And like we've been through this tale of like Stetson Bennett and
he's never been ready. So it's like, I get why the ball
instant Stafford's court because like, dude, you still want to
play. You're still playing at MVP
level. We'll pay you.
We'll keep extending this. So if they're talking about
extent. I think it's good.
The thing I struggle with the pick is it like.
I just don't see. That big of a difference between
him? And like Garrett.
Nussmeyer or like Carson Beck or something like that, you could
get get one of these guys in the second or third round like
that's the. 13th overall. Pick again.
Really. What did I start with?
Soon as I came in here like soon as I.
Pulled up, I showed I was like. Yo, I'm just trying to make
sense of it now as a as a crazed fan at this point you.
Know like I'm. Trying to understand the
thinking and like, meanwhile we got Ron just rapidly clicking
Refresh Ron. My my heart rate is crazy.
Right. Like we can't.
If this is like I. I don't even I can't even speak
on it. OK, in All, in all seriousness,
like they cannot possibly take Omar Cooper Junior?
With Lemon still on the board, David I don't know dude.
He was pretty weird at the combat.
Davis that's. All he said that.
Was a lifetime a Jets fan to find.
That David. Dude, how could they possibly?
Pass on Arvel Reese, the monster at Ohio State.
Davis, you sweet summer child, how could they pass from JS Venn
and take the 24? Year old to Will McDonald from
fucking Iowa State. Will fucking McDonald man does
this. Does I mean if the?
Jets don't take him, is there? A chance that he just doesn't.
Go in the 1st. Round at all Lemon No no Omar.
There's a lot of meaty teams after 20 like.
The the Eagles and. The Bills come up someone.
Oh well the Bills are taking Denizer.
Carolina Panthers would love to take shitty.
You still got the. Chiefs at 29, too.
Like no the Chiefs. Are gonna the chiefs Veach.
Veach is logged off. Of doing anything responsible,
he's gonna take, I don't know, he's gonna, he's gonna take the
shittiest, oldest pass. He's gonna take an FCS.
Pass rusher at 20. 9 I think I'm not in the point where I want
Omar Cooper to go to like the. Bills or the?
That would be the chargers. Well just so I can like not take
them and let chargers will be annoying.
Big Trey Harris guy here. It's so I can.
Fade very annoying you. Can.
Fade him. It's so I can fade him at an.
Expensive price. Because he's been.
Cheap enough where I like have to take him some.
You know, but if he goes like to the Bills, I'll never have to
think about him. It's refused to take a pills
first time Denzel Boston. Is going to the Bills, right?
I mean, that's happened. 49ers probably.
Niners could definitely take a receiver there, yeah.
Niners, Omar Cooper. Junior actually make a ton of
sense. Bears could frankly take a 25.
The yak there, Yeah, I would. I would be.
Pretty. Bummed out if the bears took a
wide. Me too.
Actually, that'd be pretty bummed out that would.
Be so dishes I I would be married if I I want I want to
bet on. I want to bet on my guys
cheaper. I mean Cooper or Boston, who I?
Think. Stink like that's fine.
Take them They they don't have anybody behind a Doonese and
Burden and those guys are young the Doonese struggle.
Colston Loveland is the wide receiver one.
Come on. The old Burden is yeah, I, I.
Think that that's a That's a good point to see you turn heel.
And cooter, that is insane. Loveland.
And I'm wearing a Burden jersey right now.
Loveland's really good. What?
Do you got? Ron, you seeing anything?
His eyes are. Darting around I'm I'm doing
more refreshing than I I can even handle.
We can see in the reflection of your glasses like when the new
web pages come up and it's just like Ron has.
The Minority Report gloves on he's just I packed into the main
frame he's. So locked in it's.
Amazing, I'm currently looking at.
Darren Muji's desktop. I got, I got, I got nothing.
I got nothing. Forward to Ron Paul Deeper.
Into the abyss after this pick. No, I'm joking.
You guys don't understand how bad I need this.
The first Ike man. 2 was tough. 2 was the first pick was was
tough. You were excited for Reese.
I can't believe you fell all the way to 5.
Yeah. Do you have like the Giants
jersey in your cart at least? Like are you?
Ready. Oh no.
No, I I could never. I could never.
I just it's. No, no, no.
Oh, no. See, I'm different.
Oh, oh, no. Buy them all, Pat.
What? I'm seeing Sadiq I think.
That's a. Good pick.
I you know what, it's fine. It's fine.
That's not a good pick. No, Ron, it's.
Fine guys do not fail. How could this?
How could this fail? How could?
This fine? What's your issue with Sadiq?
He ran the fastest 40 time for a tight end.
Ever he. Was like.
Athleticism matters. He also had bench in the league.
He put up like really good bench numbers and jump numbers.
Like this guy's a freaking. He's an NFL athlete, at least in
100 class. Yeah, he just literally split a
little. Oh man.
And then like there's no way this.
Is a good pick. I don't.
Care if you try? It has.
To be what it had to be a 5. Pound it had to be Yeah, with
the lemon. On the board.
That's that doesn't make any sense.
Hey no this is showing. Deference in respect to Adnai
Mitchell, who is a perfectly good.
Wide respected too when he takes his Adderall.
We need a three, our widespread 3 as Isaiah had me until that
last. Part I was rocking with you and
then what? Wow.
Yeah, this is actually pretty good for for Geno.
Smith, and I've taken more of him than.
I'd care to admit. Honestly NFL is trending towards
12 personnel anyway. The NFL is.
Super trending towards 12 is going to have.
A fucking sick 12 personnel I'm sure Frank Reich is.
Going to is Will is Will Mallory is.
Will Mallory got to admit. Then like you, you clearly like.
Sadiq more than the majority of us, but like he's a.
Unique player that requires some creativity.
Like it's not a good outcome to pair him with Frank Reich.
I mean, Frank Reich got the most out of Eric Ebron in his career
back in the Colts days. You know that.
I cannot fucking believe this. I actually think Kenyan city's.
Athleticism is worth in a bad class you go.
Out and you get the the Uber lemon lemon dude, lemon's a good
process. Let me get the letting people
want to do the woe is me Jets fan right now.
I'm I'm striking this down. I would lemon lemons a no
brainer. Did you use that round?
Two pick on Mason Taylor last year.
By the way. Jets.
Yeah, no, that was all. Dude, The Jets fans kill me for
saying that was a piss poor pic. This pic.
Was the Jetsons like home, Offend Mason Taylor?
OK, but that's total, that's total sunk cost bullshit like
just because. You're.
Just being a fine tight. End.
Or we could just take. We could take Justin Jolly.
Justin Jolly late. We could take Michael Treig
late. No.
Dude, you are.
You are not seeing the. Force for the trees.
All you're seeing is trees. He's already got the clip made
dude. He's the the.
Clip guy background 'cause you get you get lemon and then you
can take one of those late tight ends.
Hey, Ron, new ASJ just dropped. Yeah, hey.
Hey many. Of.
Those Titans jump over buildings and run faster than a speeding
bullet, because that's what Kenyon's did at the Oscar.
Delp can run. I'm sorry, Ron.
No, no, no. Do not come to.
Me do not even put. Oscar.
Delp in the same. Universe as Kenyon Siddique,
dude, I'm not. He's a better guy than our wide
receiver. 3 is going to be Reggie Verger.
They're not in the same universe.
Oscar Delp can actually. Block in line.
You're wide receiver 3. Is going to be Kenyon Sudeep.
You're not blocking you again. Put your hand in the ground,
Ben. Put your fucking hand in the
ground, Ben. Daddy did.
Like 26 reps on the bench. He can fucking block.
He's got strength too. He's not just, I know he's
athletic, but he he had 1.62 yards per hour big year for
briefs. Not even really the number one
tight end year for briefs, but we know you know, production is
scheme dependent. In college, right?
To some extent to. Some extent fair.
It's It's particularly great that his teammate tight end had
2.67 yards per hour on. That he's slightly not as good
as Carnell Tate, I'll give you that with the production
profile, but he's. Meaningfully more athletic.
This is rough. Cool.
No, I'm I'm I'm giving me the one O 1 in my super flex high
rocks league. This lemon wasn't there.
Yeah, Lemon. Being there is really.
What's driving this? Conversation like passing on
Lemon for Sadiq is so bad. Like it first of all, it's wide
receiver versus tight end. We know like, yeah, maybe if you
have the top tight end, that conversation is different.
But that's that's why I think it's good because I think if you
think Kenyan Sadiq has a 5%. Chance to be a generational game
then he might be worth the same as a receiver Like though.
That's that's what it is. It's like the receivers.
Have to be gone, but Lemon Lemon, as much as we might like
him is does not project. To be like a can we go back to
his press conference? Yes, don't worry about that.
Why I'm? Going to convince myself we
trade. Up from 30.
Three and get lemon. If I'm the Panthers, I'm pissed.
Because I would have traded up to get Sadiq if that was the
case because. I think they might.
I think they might take they would make they can just if
lemon. Get.
A bad way better you get this good of an NFL athlete I.
I think at a position where traditionally the hits have been
athletically coded, like we need the the high wrasse at tight end
and all that stuff. I mean, I don't think it's, I
think you could be mad about this pick, man.
I think it's a good way to address a bad class.
Get an NFL player. If Lemon is there for the
family. Have you talked with Sean?
About Sadiq, the Sean, yeah, he's.
He loves him. Yeah.
All right. Yeah, I can live with that.
What's what's Sean's? What's Sean?
'S case like because I I I disagree.
So strongly, but I respect. Him so much.
That he ran a 439 at 240 lbs or whatever, Yeah, maybe he's a
Unicorn. Maybe he's a Unicorn.
That he's a Unicorn. No, unpersuaded.
He's a Unicorn. He is a Unicorn.
What is persuasive about that? Have you been?
Watching the NFL the last few years, you have to be unique to
beat. These defenses, dude, yeah,
dude, receiving skills matter. They matter a lot.
And then thank you, guys. Ron is smiling a little bit.
You know who's also athletic? Zach Koontz.
Zach, I don't know, like a 10 Ras.
Cool. Did he?
Ever do? Anything.
No like so many, but he was a fifth round pick from Old
Dominion. Look at the same thing.
I get the. Young.
He's athletic and so there's there's a wide range of outcomes
and that includes the high season 3.
But like lemon is just good. You could just draft Lemon and
you just have a good player. And instead of Lemon, it's not
against the lemon pick. I'm just saying I don't think
this process is bad. And I think you can look back at
this and be like, yeah, that wasn't bad draft class.
Oh yeah, The Jets got a legit NFL player in the middle of
round one. Like that's one of the picks
that we point back at and go, I mean, process wise, if there's
holes with a lot of the prospects, you're going look,
this guy, I know he can compete with these athletes.
It's not a high value position for the vast majority of the
players at the position. So in order for it to become a
high value position, you need to kind of like hit, you know that
one out of, you know, like every couple years, every 5.
Years. Maybe there's a guy who's.
Actually like worth this type of investment in the position.
So already you're like kind of in the bad process part of the
manual, you know so well there was two drafted up there last
year and he's like a very boom bust prospect as well because he
doesn't have the receiving. When you look at the receiving
profile, you're kind of like, well, maybe the athleticism
works out. I don't think he's doing much.
I think that's wrong when you're this athletic, No, I think maybe
for fantasy, but I think when you're this athletic and this
strong. And.
We're moving towards a league that's doing more 12 personnel
and multi tight ends. You're going to be able to find
uses for this player. If you can't, you're a really
bad offensive coach. And maybe to Jacob, well, Mike
is a really bad offensive coach. I think there's a really high
floor here actually with the way the league is moving and the
ways that you can use a guy like, I don't think so.
Theo Johnson had a 9.99 Ras. Like there's Theo's good.
Unbelievable Ras. I would say no, I wouldn't take
no. J Howard are.
More the are the comps that go for.
Is the comp that I would go for and it just didn't work out for
fan. It doesn't mean it's not going.
To work out for Sadiq I I I think I would I have taken lemon
sure is this a Oh no classic jets Ron you know eating a sad
pizza in the basement pick absolutely dude you guys time
out every name you're saying did not run a 439 and.
Jump a 43 1/2 inch vertical. Fuck that.
You guys are naming guys Vernon Davis did, but not that Vernon
Davis was good. Vernon Davis was a very good
player. You think that's you think
Vernon Davis is a good use of a first round pick?
I do not. I, I absolutely not even close.
Can't play with him, can't play with him.
The positive. Run is next year.
Whenever. There's a Titan that runs like a
432. They're going to take him as
well, so it'll be fun. Wow, keep scaling up.
They're scaling up 13 personnel. Let's go.
Congrats. I mean dude.
Vernon 13% targets. Per Outrun this year if.
You ask me, Vernon Davis. Did have a 960. 5 yard, 13
touchdown season. A 850 yard 13 touchdown season
were those on the team that drafted him or are they seven
years later on just turned 21 last.
Month they were. They were judging his production
profile at 20 years. Drinking a lot in Jersey dude.
I'm saying he's a boom. Bust prospect with a low floor
because he didn't show. Any like strong receiving?
Ability in case like I agree with the part where you're like,
he has a seal. We see the receiving skills and
we don't have that. But as a like a a projection
from a 20 year old who did decent numbers last year isn't
terrible. And now he's 21 and he and he,
he tested really well for how young he is as well, because a
lot of the guys who test really well, little more developed like
this guy's going to be one of the better athletes in the NFL
immediately at a young age. Well, if you want to, if you, if
you do want to be bearish, it would be that The Jets have
shown no. Ability to sculpt and mold these
young athletic players that like he, he didn't go to a system
where you're like, oh, he's really going to learn a lot on
the job. What I will say is that he is
really young. We know players can develop in
the league. And he's so athletic.
I think that comes with a lot of versatility.
And honestly, if David Bailey doesn't work out, he could
probably play Edge for them. That's that's fair.
That's it actually. I can't hate.
On that, because it fits right in with my case.
He's not athletic and there's that much potential.
All right. Are the Vikings?
Let's take this white. Safety to replace their old
white safety who retired. Who are the Lions?
Yes, they are. I don't even know.
Lions took Blake. Miller, offensive lineman.
Clemson tackle. Sure, whatever they needed an.
Offensive line. I actually just saw a.
Tweet Aaron Glenn had sex with Diane Rossini.
Is what people are saying on Twitter.
Laquan's. Face was like I'm on the wrong
show if we can get a freeze frame on Laquan's face for the 2
seconds. That's just the tweet I saw on
the timeline. Just holding the.
News as a casual Jets fan. That's had a great night look.
Should should the Vikings text He did not text me back like I.
Literally went back to the text and it's like.
Notifications on silent. So like obviously he's getting
trampled with a ton of text right now.
Should should the Vikings maybe just take Makai?
Lemon. Who's the Vikings third wide
receiver they lost? Jalen Naylor.
Yeah. Ty Felton, Ty.
Felton, Ty. Felton Burn, though he's a
burner, I. I think honestly, Jordan
Addison, you got question marks. About, yeah, I don't know if you
want to pay Jordan Addison. I like it.
I mean, man, that would be. Such a horrible man for.
Lemon if you went to the. Vikings.
It'd be. It'd be.
Really bad, yeah. Fantasy wise, yeah, but I think
not a terrible real. Life pick, I agree, but that's
a. Disgusting.
Also long term. I don't.
Hate it, you know, You assume
he's going to form a game. It'll just be very funny for
Kyler Murray to finish. Quarterback, 4 fantasy points
per game and all the the other reason he was good as there
wasn't a new Call of Duty game. That came out Bros.
Out there, it'll be. That'll be very funny for me.
Don't. Don't even.
Get Black Ops 2 like I I don't
because these people haven't updated their humor since COVID.
Laquan. They they're making, they're
still. Making the same.
Are they still making the short jokes?
Yeah, yes, yes. As a short king, I take.
Highly offense to that. I take no offense to it, I just
wish. People would have better.
I protect Greg Dorch Wando. Robinson.
All the short kings out there, Kyler, he was a OP but.
He no longer Greg Greg Dorch. Greg Dorch is going to be frame
mogging Isaac Tesla. Before we, before we know it.
Wow, Huge, huge upset. Caleb Banks to the Vikings.
Not Dylan. Dylan Thinnamon.
Thinnamon. Yeah, that was.
That's a crazy pick. That's kind of so Connor.
Was even Connor? Owen told me that.
This. Pick that.
That Dylan Thinnamon exacta to the Vikings was the highest
favorite exacta on the board of like any player to exact team.
Don't like that was the IT was the number one other than
Mendoza to the Raiders. Wow that's crazy because there's
17 picks before, you'd think it would be somewhere.
Where there's less variance like.
Before it was literally, I mean I'm, I'm being 100% serious what
I'm saying. It was like literally pattern
matching of. Harrison Smith retired,
literally white, white safety. And then he got there and they
didn't take him and they didn't take him.
No one knew anything. Just everyone was pattern
matching white safety to white safety.
So Lemon. Lemon Panthers seem very
plausible. Cowboys seem very plausible.
Pittsburgh seems very plausible. Each of these next three picks,
I don't want any of that. None of that rode the Panthers.
You don't want Cowboys on a wild Cowboys.
If they drink picking, sure. Yes, I don't.
Want the Panthers cuz I like Jalen.
Coker, man, I just want. I love coke, yo.
Coke. Miller, Cokez.
Let's go. Yeah, I don't say that, but
yeah, yeah. I heard you.
It's decriminalized up here, I'll say.
It cokez let's go where the. Hell, are you at?
What the hell is that true, Jacob?
Yeah, it's. True.
Yeah, he's Canadian. I mean, you can't.
You can't. Like buy it at ACVS?
But like, nothing's happened. No, it's not at ACVS, but you
know you can go get it at this spot down and buy the rest.
No, it's not like. That it's not like that.
There's a big difference. Order by Amazon.
Legal. What the hell?
Legalized and decriminalized? You can't.
You can't be. Selling it.
Where are you not? They're just.
And to be clear, Jacob knows about this because he's a
lawyer. Yeah, exactly.
I follow public policy closely and I'm in Vancouver, BC.
Wait, what if the eagles take lemon?
What if the freaking Eagles? Take Lemon.
Trade A.J. Brown for pick 31.
Like Craig just says, I love cocaine.
This is operator just. Looking up Mike's British
Columbia right now, he's. Talking about.
Dalen Coker, Panthers. There's like a little innuendo
usually, yeah. Just earnestly like.
Hey, I'm pretty into it. I've got a, I've got a
hypothetical. So Sadiq is a jet?
Eli Stowers goes in the second round to I don't know what's the
what's the most obvious tight end needy team then?
Odd. Denver.
Yeah, OK.
Second round. Second round to Denver, who?
Has the higher ADP in best ball mania Sadiq first round to The
Jets. The most tight end ADP Jets.
Yeah, I I second. Round second round to the
Broncos towers. That's good.
The Jets still need a tight end. Broncos would be.
Interesting they do, because actually I think you're going to
have. To deal with the Sean Payton,
everyone's going to be like it's.
Just going to take one person to be like, it's Sean Payton.
He'll probably like run 35% of the routes and then we're all
going to be like, yes, you're correct.
Kobe Fleener, every every single Sean Payton draft pick has like
half of Twitter saying Sean Payton brackets complimentary
and half of Twitter saying Sean Break Sean Payton brackets
derogatory. But I think with the player,
with usage concerns, it has to be brackets derogatory, right?
But then of course, you have the Jimmy Graham.
You've got the Jimmy Graham com you.
Know what? Actually I think the.
Public. It ends more favorably than Sean
Payton. Like he, he's with this, yeah,
but he only, he only. Lets them only lets them play 47
snaps. Just play the Malon.
Percent of the snaps. Just that Evan Ingram was
washed. Probably not Greg Dulcich.
He didn't play him. Not not Greg Dulcich.
I'm not. I'm driving publicly.
Nope. Nope, he's the starter again,
Jacob. Eagles.
Eagles are Eagles are trading up.
So here's the blemid time, I think.
Here's There it is. Yeah, Ron.
'S tweeting. Through it, I'm tweeting through
it. All I'm tweeting and Chad.
Says the Ron's tweeting through it.
I go to his. I go to his Twitter page.
So it's just a sample. I can't do this.
Get Erin Glenn the fuck out of New York.
Oh my good about Arvo Reese and Makai Lemon.
How did we fuck this up so bad? All right, let's.
Let's get Steph Miller and Nez on here cuz we've got Cowboys
fan, Steelers fan Eagle's getting Mackay Lemon.
Can't you can't love that. If if that indeed is what
happens. I, I think that's what's
happening. I think it it.
Seems like it's what's happening it.
Was it's either that or whatever, there's not a stud
fan's gone. So yeah, this is a total Eagles,
Eagles move. Rosman's always like, yeah,
there's value at this point. He's falling far enough.
He's he's such the consensus big born guy.
He just wants everyone on X the everything app to compliment
his. Drafts does anyone?
Does anyone trade up 1 and also to win Super Bowl which he also
does Howie. Rosman loves moving up one spot
or two spots, the good drafts. He's such a dynasty, Superflex,
best ball manager. Like I'm actually on the.
Clock here, I'll make this freaking 4 hours.
Send me offers, I'd love to trade back again.
One consistently builds. Really.
Good rosters won multiple Super Bowls with different.
Cubes. Seems like it's working.
I I want to pick Umbridge with Hayden Wings here real quick.
I. Did a a mock draft.
On underdog whatever the fuck hyperlink they have for it today
and I searched for Stowers under tight end didn't find him.
I was like did Hayden leave him off the board?
No, Hayden listed him as a wide receiver.
He just he did. He did that specifically to piss
me off. I know Hayden, Hayden, Hayden,
Hayden. Solidarity.
You're thinking of Davis when he did it.
He's like. I just he should.
He should drop 15 lbs and be a receiver.
He'd be really good at that. No, is not.
A background or are you wearing wings?
No, I am not wearing wings. I appreciate you thinking that I
would. Yeah.
This is like. A project that like I ended up
like stopping, I was, I was like, let me get a bunch of like
really good soundproof stuff behind me.
And then I didn't calculate enough that like there's a wall
right here and like there's AI need to put a square right
there. It doesn't fit.
So I just no, no. And then you wear a black shirt
and it looks like I had to wear this.
Shirt specifically because I'm like the universal like Justin.
Fields like #1 fan. So this is, I really wanted it
to be an Aaron Rodgers jersey. Aaron Rodgers Jersey.
Would have went hard. No Aaron Rodgers noose would
have went it's super high. Don't.
Don't talk about your quarterback.
Like, look what's making that face again?
Aaron Rodgers is ruining my entire you know what?
Guys. It's true.
Thank you for the invite man, I had a.
Great time, nice meeting everybody.
I'll see you guys dropping on bro Bye.
Thanks for having us, Bye. I'll pop off too so y'all have
space but I just want. To say my favorite part of the
night. Was somebody just said.
Lemon and y'all went like 100% heat.
That's actually the charge there.
Bye, guys. All right, I'm gonna leave.
As well, I'm gonna go do breathing.
Exercises. Yeah.
You think you're too diligent? Ron, you got to start the March.
You told me you'd start the March.
No, it's. Omar.
Cooper would have been. That would have been the one,
yeah. I'm just gonna I'm gonna watch
Sadiq highlights. I'll maybe I know you pretty
fired up about. Sadiq, didn't I?
He's a Unicorn. He's a Unicorn.
He was 20 last year. Don't listen to Pat about when
you go to his. Production make sure you type in
some great highlights. You done and what happened to
Ben Gretch? Didn't hear a lot about the D
highlights. Bench press this guy.
That's Oregon, this is. This is what?
Happened. Gretch started.
Gretch started fucking coaching high school sports.
And now he's become a football. Guy he's he's he's put his
spreadsheets away and he's like, look, I know, I know what I need
on on the field. I just need someone who gets
like he throws around really fast.
How we did it again, lemon trade, trade up lemon they get
they get lemon. That was so obvious.
God damn it. How he just makes the obvious
move and how hilarious the Panthers.
The Panthers traded back to give it man to give him lemon.
Oh man, I'd be more mad if the Cowboys didn't do something the
Cowboys did. The Cowboys traded.
Back the Panthers stuck in a lineman and then the Cowboys.
Were the ones the Cowboys? Hey dude, at least AJ Brown's a
Patriot. Wait, wait, wait, what?
Cowboys traded back. The Cowboys are the ones.
That gave. The lemon pick lemon to the.
Cowboys moved. Back three spots and they got
114 and 137, so it's pretty much like we moved up from the fifth
round when we gave. Up those picks.
And we still got downs. It's two different teams, but
let me yeah. So it's more or less you got
back what you gave up. So you're you're kind of but we.
Actually, that's even better. So now we're what, in the fourth
round, I think. Yeah.
I mean, you OK? You could have just you could
have just taken a pick at 20. And then?
Let Nez's team have lemon and then not not given your yeah,
that's like, I don't want them. I just like because I I mean,
did my team, I mean way, way better for fantasy that he's on
the. Eagle, I was gonna say yeah, I'm
a yeah. For fantasy, I'm happy about it,
I know. But the Cowboys?
Shouldn't want him in division is what I was saying but sure it
also. Frees the leaders up to make the
A.J. Brown.
Maybe they think he's a lemon. So is A.J.
Brown gonna get traded tonight or do?
We really have to the Cowboys. Just really helped the Eagles.
You can't get traded until June 1st.
June 1st, yeah. I mean, just can't just like, it
makes no sense for him. The Cowboys dramatically just
helped the Eagles, which I think is like, dramatically.
It made their lives. Yeah.
But we also needed the that depth, and we need those.
Players, so I think. It either picks back made sense
because, I mean, it probably does make sense for the Cowboys
defense. Yeah, it probably does make
sense for. Them to prioritize you got 2
fourths. But.
Yeah. And we already given up our 2/5
to move up to get down South. 2 fourths is.
There's some value there for sure, but also like who's to?
Say if the Cowboys just stick and pick and don't help the
Eagles, like maybe the Cowboys or maybe the Eagles just call
Pittsburgh and they do the same trade with someone else.
Like at least now the Cowboys get some picks for their
troubles. Yeah, if you're not taking
Lemon, cuz Lemon's like the pick right there.
Yeah, cuz like I assume the Cowboys wouldn't do it if well,
maybe, but I just I'm sure when these trades go down, the
Cowboys would be like, who are you?
Taking and there's like an honor.
System involved in that I think like I don't I don't think the
Cowboys are doing this. If they would have taken lemon.
I think the Cowboys, Lemon things seem to be right.
I mean, folk's still there, Mccoy's still there.
I mean, there's a lot of players.
If you're the one who traded Micah Parsons and complained
about how he didn't help your they're not trans.
You take, folk, you take. Folk I, I like folk, but I mean
because of I, I mean we need a corner also.
But I'm worried. About the neat things with
McCoy. So yeah, I mean, yeah, I want, I
want the edge. Nez, where you at on the because
the Steelers are on the clock now.
Where? Are you glad that Simpson's
gone? That seems like it could have
been AI mean. This has got to ruin my night.
I I wanted. Simpson in the second round.
I thought he would have been there.
I didn't think. That he would have been a.
No, you're gonna get Cole Payton and you're gonna fucking love
it. You're gonna, I am gonna love
it. You're gonna love it.
Cole Payton, I said. He looks awesome.
He has. Shout out Colin Coward he has.
QB base. He just he has the look like he
I I love Cole Peyton and I love I mean anything involving the
city of. Fargo but I told Davis this
earlier on stream, Pat and and you're gonna love this as a as
an occasional QB school beefer, I'm like so excited.
I'm like, all right, time to watch a Cole Peyton QB school
video. So I look at the ones he does.
I look at the box, I'm like, I'll pick the best one.
So I watched about two plays in and he's like, see, that's the
kind of play that could make me think he would work as a convert
to tight end in the league. Oh my God.
And I was like, Oh no, he is a house man if I can.
He is dude if I can do a. A Bill Simmons bit if.
If Ty Simpson. Fernando Mendoza, Cole Payton,
Drew Aller and Garrett Nussmeyer were all walking to a truck
after a workout. They tossed the keys to Cole
Payton. He'd be the truck.
Oh, most certainly. Does anyone?
Remember, does anyone remember the quarterback that Bill
Simmons said that? About Does anyone remember Mark
Sanchez, Mark Sanchez, Mark Sanchez of all the.
Guys for. That to have not made that.
Well, that that really. Didn't age.
Well. Recently.
Oh boy, when I when I watched Cole Payton, I'm reminded of.
Do you guys? Remember.
Andre. Williams.
I believe this is the the back I'm thinking of Boston College,
New York Giants, Boston College. Yeah, gigantic man.
Yeah, He I think it was like. He transferred from.
Somewhere or but he was just like there was these tapes of
him. Maybe it was the BC tape, but it
was just like really poor quality, like end zone view,
like you couldn't really make out like really what's
happening? See anything from the end zone
view and famously like not like not above, like you're standing
in the back of the end zone view and it's like this guy is huge.
That's how I feel when I watch Cole Payton.
I'm like, Oh my God, what can he do?
But it's like rainy. Looks like someone found this
old footage. Yeah, anyway, I'm really in and
I. Don't see any.
Reason It's a Bargo Dome, yeah. Is this this pick?
Has not been tipped yet well, which is weird because like.
Omar Omar Khan has like, kind of.
Tips his. Picks based on the like top 30
visits that he does like he's been very transparent about who
he takes and I forget I was looking at the the tendencies
sheets and I forget who they said that he was The year was
picket up there and the year. That it was.
I know I had. This Naji everyone knew.
Mm Hmm. Yeah, everyone knew it was Naji.
Yeah. And.
Even last year, I think everyone knew that one I.
Forget who look Kyle Lemon is. Doing the face whoever started
getting interviewed on pick like right now the year that they did
Naji Harris. They basically told everyone for
I hated that we're we're selecting Naji Harris here.
Like isn't it a bad sign if you tell the whole league 8 weeks in
advance for your taking? No one decides to trade up in
front of you. Like no no one's like concerned.
What is exactly? What is the game theory there?
Like what do you gain from the I, I?
Don't think. The Steelers as an.
Organization believe in game theory.
I think they think it's like unbecoming and unmanly.
To use game theory, Yeah. What's that?
It's like trickery trick? Yeah.
There's much like the Roman Empire.
What was the the the was? That a Michael Irvin.
Or the Jerry Rice tweet. That's the one.
Jerry Rice, RPO's, RPO's trickery, whatever.
Happened to whatever happened to the line it up and best man
wins. This is painstaking.
They're like resetting the. The the the tipping timeline
here like. I think it's like literally cut
like we're gonna learn on the broadcast.
I think actually that would be so.
Awesome if they saved it for the broadcast 'cause they're in
Pittsburgh. Oh, maybe that is what's
happening. That's fine.
I would I would appreciate. Oh, if if anyone wants an update
on Ron, he tweeted. 12 seconds. Ago.
I'm sick to my stomach. Nice.
Oh man, I felt bad. Is that is that offer?
He watched the highlights. Yeah, we got to respond with
that. I just saw DM him just the.
Videos of him doing bench press because that seemed to really
sway you. I I just saw Malik neighbors is
on a live show. And his reaction to the?
Cowboys trading up to takedowns one pick after the Giants and
he's he's not happy publicly loudly on a live pick is in.
Have you seen it in this? Yep.
OK. How you feel?
Is it I? See I.
I was really hoping it wasn't. A non skilled position.
Player just cuz I don't know these guys.
Offensive tackle. The like scuttlebutt on him is
he's super raw. But he has the highest ceiling
of any of the offensive lineman in the draft.
Yeah. I mean, he's an offensive
lineman. You just go.
All right, Yeah. Build into the trench.
When you're in the crowd, you're
just like your team. Your team takes an.
Offensive lineman you go. Is it good?
Is anything good? Yeah, yeah.
Just like cheering in. Unison.
They're not too excited, but they're like they're they're.
Happy that I think you default. He's notably interested, though,
Like this is Grant Cohen says. Great.
With a nine point. 91 Razz like he's he's arguably the most.
Athletic. Offensive.
Lineman in history. OK, OK, I I did.
What's a deep thought about the Lyman Max?
He literally is the Sadiq of O Lyman.
Yeah, yeah, that's fun. And he played with Tyson, just
22 1/2 years old. Yeah.
OK. Let's see.
Bruegler has him 33 overall. He says he's still learning how
to refine his talent on a more. Consistent basis, but his.
Traits athletic build, balance, quickness, play strength form an
exciting foundation for a future starting right tackle.
He's an ascending player, although he might require retro
year, but but he so he never played football until he
enrolled at East LA Community College.
That's where he started playing offensive line.
He played there for a couple years.
Then he transfers up to Arizona State.
So he's he's literally only been playing the position for four
years, but he's this crazy athlete.
Like he ran A49 flat at 3:30. And and so it's it's a like a
total swing for the fences. A lot of people thought he was
going to go to the Eagles because of the the historically
they take bets on these like raw athletic types.
Yeah, all right. Seems like a good pick to me.
Yeah. You know, just like OK.
Really. Funny bit happening, everyone is
so fucking excited. In Pittsburgh, this is like like
they have high school students like Taylor Allardice high
school. They're waving their terrible
towers crowds going crazy and they pick an offensive lineman.
I mean that is a really, really good bit like the like the most
like sure, whatever. Like no one's ever heard of this
guy. It's it's very it's how which
can go one of two ways when you do it hometown because the
Chiefs took, I mean, basically the worst defensive end in
football at pick 32 as the defending Super Bowl champions
when the draft was in Kansas City, because he went to K
State, which is about 60 minutes from Kansas City.
And like, literally like he never played for them.
He's awful. So it really can go one of two
ways when you're doing the hometown draft.
I I think this is probably better.
Yeah. Yeah.
Not not not a fan of the from here picks.
Shout out Kenny Pickett. Shout out Kennett, shout out
Kenny Pickett. I'm I'm now on like full on maxi
and HR. Reddit and like, there's
stories. Of his first year he walked on
to East LA Community College and he starts beating all of their
running backs and receivers and man maker drills and they're
like what's going on guy's 3:30 and he outran every running back
and wide receiver other team dude.
I mean, it's it'll pop consensus week draft and you take a really
high upside tackle in the middle of the first round.
That seems like a good way to play that situation.
Yeah. And Broderick Jones, I don't
think can like, look left and right right now.
So that's probably. Unnecessary pick.
This guy doesn't even need to. He runs all the way to the right
and if he's not there in time then he just runs back.
To the left and he blocks him. That's incredible.
So so Nez. Is the first person to come on
the stream happy with? Their team selection,
surprisingly, I don't know, or at least not at least not
surrender there there's. Still time for them to announce.
Like the Aaron Rodgers re. Signing.
I mean, that's just, that's just.
Happening Nez. Why are you even?
Trying to pretend like it is happening right?
Because I have 40% of that guy. It's it's, it's, it's happening.
It's just I. Just don't.
What other reason would there be so?
Annoying. What other reason would?
There have been for. Them to have hired.
Mike Mccart, well, I guess he's from Pittsburgh.
What a joke of an organization. Nez.
I'm sorry, bro. It's crazy.
It's he got hired because he's from Pittsburgh.
I, I, I understand it. It's not.
It's not.
My preferred. Hire by by.
By any means my the. The silver lining?
For me was he would be easy to fire like it's just like OK, but
that's not what the that's not what the Steelers do.
I mean it took him like 5 years to fire Matt Canada who's
actively. Like Matt nagging, I know.
But you can. You can fire.
You can fire McCarthy. You need to fire him to fire cuz
he lives in Pittsburgh so you just you don't have to look very
far. To fire him.
Yeah, you just walk down the street.
Mike not gonna work out, buddy. Better luck next year.
Hey, you got you got O'Neill. Come buy your Rolling Rock.
Later. Are you liking the Pit this
year? He's he's gonna be on the pit.
He's oh dude, they should have had they.
Should have had. Noah Weil announced the pit.
Come on, I. Know yeah, dude, that's my goat.
That's my goat. He'll probably he'll probably do
it tomorrow. He'll.
Probably do it tomorrow. Yeah.
I mean, I'm, I've been. Also low key like trying to talk
myself into him being offensive. Minded, which is something that
we've never had in in Pittsburgh ever.
So maybe that is Chargers. Chargers took the 48 year old
defensive end sick. Jerko, we're getting a little
bit of a. Echo on.
Your end, I think. Yeah, I think you're on the
wrong mic and putt. Yeah, Shope.
Shope is coming on soon. For.
The Denzel Boston pick. Don't say that.
He's just, he's been, he's been hanging out with Brady.
Getting some inside info. But he's he's going to jump on
the show. You know what?
You know what is sick? Actually, because I'm up so
late. For this, I'm actually going to
get to watch a playoff hockey game for my favorite hockey
team. Might be no chance of my Zach.
It might be a European stream. That means you have to watch the
Kings play the. One thing, one trap.
And attempt to. Win 10, Jacob, you actually were
not kidding about how horrible it is to watch.
It's actually it's. Actually, things are the worst
thing in the. Sports, they're in the playoffs.
Is it actually? Me.
Yeah, it is actually you. No, it sounds good.
Now we're. Good.
OK, Yeah. No, he is good now.
The I just have to not move at all.
Tuber's been begging me to bring.
Up hockey on this stream all week and I I will say he did he
did send the gritty tossing the Penguin off of the skin concert.
I enjoyed that I've been watching that was I've been
watching some playoff hockey. I watched the.
Sabres. That's why.
That's not hockey so much as as professional wrestling.
That's where, I mean, that's where they had some good right
now. Yeah, I, I don't.
Know what the score is of that. Game, but I saw them.
Win 1 and lose 1. They only think they should
score in the very last. Period, apparently.
So they had like a really nice comeback win in the very first
game I saw. All right, so the Cowboys are
back. Congrats on the the new the
Sabres. Won.
They won the Sabres. Won 3-1 tonight so they're like
2 ones. Oh hell yeah.
That's going to be fired up. Nice.
That's awesome. And you'll never believe this,
Davis, but the Kings are are. Currently at 00 in.
That game, yeah, I'm, I'm, I have it up.
I actually believe it or not, I can.
I can. It's so.
Miserable. The the Hurricanes, who are an
equally disgraceful watch, also won A-21 game.
Today, so that that series has about three goals through three
games. Who do we who do we want?
Dallas to your Your voice got more and more Canadian.
As you explain. Come on, Draco, you just got to
get. It.
Falk yeah, I guess Falk would be a huge win for.
Them actually, yeah, yeah, the. Edge, he's everything they
didn't like about Parsons. He's he's bigger and slower.
And worse against the pass. But he sets the edge.
Does do you guys think Tyson jumps?
Tate in ADP with after this. Draft.
He fucking should. Yeah, he should.
He, he will. After the AJ, he.
Probably. Will I?
I don't think the AJ. Brown trade will get.
I don't think so. And he'll move up.
He will. I'll tell you what.
No. I was saying.
Tyson versus Tate. Oh no, you don't think they
flipped Tate? I mean, Tate's not a very fun
people. I think we're going to get a
discount few more. Favorably than shock, Yeah, I
was. Going to say Lemon will be a
flawed is way more imposing than Wandale when I get down with
Tate. He's going to be a round.
Tate maybe? Sorry.
Great. Sorry.
I'm trying to win money this year.
Thanks for the help maybe. Super excited to.
Drop the shitty. Player in round nine I'm some
pump well, it's really funny because because Pat Colorado
goal. That's two rounds Pat and Brian
Thomas Hector has been one of the foremost Cam Ward haters,
and now it's. Going to set him up for.
Tons of Carnell Tate Cam ward stacks.
Honestly like my preference would be that Tate.
Rises to like the 4th and I can kind of do what I'm doing with
like Tedaroa McMillan where it's like I will take some, but I'm
not going to slam him because I don't believe in Cam Ward and I
don't think Tate's like I think Tate's a good prospect and you
know, he's my number one wide receiver in the class, but I
don't he's not like a Malik neighbors level prospect and not
that high on him. So if word's not it like he's
not it, you know, regardless of your number. 1.
Prospect in the class #1 Wide receiver in the class Obviously
Jeremiah loves my #1 prospect. God, I thought you were a good
good prospect analysis. You've been going down the hill
since I left. How it plays out here, bud.
What? What is?
What is it about? About Ward.
That you're like so out on, I feel.
Like for me, the arm talent looks looks dece, but I think
Ward, yeah. So coming in, we kind of like
sold on this idea. That he's which I was like open
to right, like quarterback. I think the stats tell more than
people think they do. But like I the draft position's
still massive and the scouting work on it is still massive.
So he's the number one overall pick that means a lot.
He's got this kind of like, like, you know, kind of
gunslinger mentality. He makes plays downfield.
He's a little kind of slow, you know, to get things done.
But like when he makes plays, it looks pretty awesome.
And and then like he gets to the NFL level and in terms of the
stats, EPA success rate, the the kind of the predictive stats, he
was Zach Wilson level bad. He was, you know, Bryce Young,
worse than Bryce Young rookie season type of bad.
And it's like what I'm worried with Ward is that when he makes
plays, it does look fucking awesome, but he doesn't make
enough good plays and he makes horrible plays too.
So like over the course of the game, he he actually stacks so
many bad plays or below average plays that he like loses you the
game. It feels like he's going to win
you the game because he makes such, you know, cool highlight
plays, but those are just not frequent enough.
So yeah, I'm, I'm concerned because he's not he's not young.
He came in what he's a fifth year guy, sort of like this high
upside. Hey, this guy put it together in
his final year and now he's going to hit the ground running
and now it's sort of being rewritten like he's this like,
you know, toolsy project. I'm like, I, I don't know, I it
feels like, but you're describing someone who's great
for fantasy. We we do want more banks that do
that shit, but Zach Wilson isn't I I think at quarterback.
I want someone who's going to put together plays one way more
accurate than Zach Wilson was KZ is that is that official or high
upside plays? He's right, yeah.
I think he's better than Zach Wilson.
But he he, he, he's not a runner.
And so when? When?
You have somebody who's going to pass.
You need really good efficiency. And.
One or two sick plays a game does not.
Make. Does not make efficient passing
that makes somebody. Good at fantasy?
You got to string good plays together.
The good news about Cam Ward and and people will say all the film
Bros say. This.
If you watch. Cam Ward play is he's really
cool under pressure, like he doesn't get rattled.
Yeah, he does that. The bad news is it's doesn't.
He has no fucking. Idea what he's looking at.
So the bad. News is, maybe he should.
It it's like a deer. In the headlights the.
Deer's not. The deer doesn't know that
there's a. Truck.
Coming 60 miles an hour down the highway, about to flatten it,
it's just like, wow, that's fucking bright.
He makes a lot of mistakes. It's kind of Daniel Jonesy that
way. I think it's not.
I'm a little deep film guy here. I do watch every snap of every
game for every team. And that's, I think you're
misrepresenting him. I think he's a gunslinger who
takes a lot of shots and that's why you're seeing in the data
what you're seeing with a lot of big throws and bad throws.
Why I'm saying he's good for fantasy is he's willing to throw
into tight windows and stuff. Yeah, he is.
Can he get the Jacoby Brissette thing?
And I don't think it's deer in the headlights.
I think he's he's. Restive his fuck is what he
Yeah. I mean, what do you think Jordan
Love would have looked like if he played for four Year 3?
Brett Farve? He's not Zach Wilson.
Well, Brett Favre's a tough comp because Brett Favre's a Hall of
Famer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. He's the same architect, maybe.
Can he not be in love if he started earlier?
Zach Wilson fucking sucks, dude. Yeah, he could be in love if he
started. He made a lot of great throws
last year. More last year than Zach made
his whole career like way more cuz cuz I mean, that was that
was the most realistic comp to me when he came out with love,
but we didn't see love for two years.
He he he got to wait and then turns out he was actually pretty
good. Like Ward has to start right
away. I think he was similarly raw,
but I'm I'm not as convinced that he's terrible, right?
Like, I think he was always going to start a little rough
given like what we thought of him coming out in terms of
taking on too much risk, extending too many plays, not
having like the right. Like I don't think it's much.
He can't see the rush. I think he's not calculating
risk. I think I'm I don't I don't.
I like to see Zach stick up for his deer to head like coming
because I know Zach watches a lot of ball as well.
Yeah. I mean I I have watched way more
Cam Ward than I should have. Ever.
Spent time on like I, I went back and watched multiple games
of Cam Ward where I really just wish I'd done anything else with
the time and it really just looks like there are times where
Cam Ward is progressing to like his, his 2nd grade.
And it's not even really that he's progressing.
It's just like, let's just OK, yeah, I could do this, but it's
not he's. Very He's very lackadaisical in
the. Pocket.
It's the not. It's the not understanding like.
The risk reward trade off, which I think.
Is like a pretty important aspect for being a signal caller
in the NFL like you do need. You need to understand.
That you know what, taking a sack here on 2nd and 8th
totally. It's probably really.
Fucking. Bad here like this is the Brett
Barb pop I was. Trying.
To make because that's what what?
Davis said. It's.
Brett Barb was lackadaisical when?
You used to watch him, he would stand back there and just
fucking throw the ball in the in the double coverage.
Sometimes he'd do a lot of picks too.
That's the point I'm trying to make the gun the the traditional
gun Slinger mentality for sure. I agree with what, but I mean
like Will Levis. And stuff like.
Those guys, they have the same kind of like I'm going to push
the ball, I'm going to attack. Even like really early Sam
Darnold too. Like when I'm back when we hated
Sam. Darnold I.
Think he's kind of, he's kind of like that.
When I think of Levis or Zach Wilson or early Sam Darnold,
what sticks out to me is missing open receivers vertically that
are like, as soon as you've actually got a guy create
separation or busted coverage, you couldn't even stand in a
clean pocket to make the throw. I I've got some very bad news
for the panel. KC should.
We do selected to the. I don't think it's that bad.
I think we should shut the
stream down. I just know it's.
Just everyone's been saying this is a terrible landing spot for
receivers and I. Haven't agreed the whole.
Time I. Don't think it's that bad.
Like Shinur I'm not a fan of obviously but he's had a high
drop back profile in the past so is Watson.
Your 2027 quarterback is probably not in the roster yet.
I think it's an underrated landing spot from Dynasty Maybe
but like I don't know for best ball.
It's a bummer, dude. Is it he's going to be the wide
receiver one. He's been going in like round
nine, round 10. I don't know.
Are we even sure he out targets Judy?
Like I'm definitely not. Well, I'm not sure, but.
Like if fan then he will fannon Bannon's basically the wide.
Receiver Fannon's a real problem.
Yeah, but you can you can coexist with Fannon as a
downfield wide receiver. Pretty.
I think it's tough when you have a really shitty quarterback and
you have Fannon and Judy and then you're adding I mean,
Judy's not nothing, you know, as far as target competition,
right? Isaiah Bond, you know, just he's
nothing I. Think it's a joke?
He's not nothing but like if you're.
Good enough that your landing spot is the reason we're sadly
drafted. You, I believe.
Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy.
I'm gonna check. I think Jerry, Judy if.
I remember off the top of my. Head.
I believe he might have been 29th.
In the NFL and targets last season, I don't want to talk
about Jerry Judy at all. Second, definitely got a lot of
targets, but. They had no, they had no sorry,
sorry, sorry. 31st same amount of targets as Ladd Mcconkey, you
know I made. The case last offseason very
frequently that Judy was like. 6th or something in receiving
yards the year prior, just the raw stat.
And now you're like, yeah, well, Judy, I mean, the fact that he
was 31st at targets last year is still, you're saying that's
high. But what I'm saying is that
like, Judy might suck or whatever, but he does still.
Earn volume at it above average rate compared to like a normal
bog stand. Like he's gonna earn a lot more
targets than Jalen Tolbert is gonna earn.
So how can I had some good conversations last year where I
was trying to make the case that Judy's better than he thought?
And he was like, no, Judy sucks. And Judy had the worst football
season of a wide receiver that I've ever watched.
Pretty. Bad dude it.
Was so fucking bad football. It was just that was dog shit
shooting it in back. 2 touchdowns and 600 yards.
And just drops. On so many key plays and key
moments of like. He was so bad every time he
needed him to do something bad for KC.
No, when I I had too much Judy and when I wanted him to do
shit. Dude he was.
He was reliably unreliable when you needed him.
Replaceable volume from Jerry Judy.
The only last thing I want to say on the Cam Ward thing.
Is that his receivers? Last year he got like 100
routes. Out of Calvin Ridley, he was
throwing to two day three rookies for the most part and
Van Jefferson. I mean, and I don't think those
day three rookies are very good. And the guys that actually the
the one who flashed gunner helm made some nice catches.
They had some really nice hookups.
If you go look up like some Gunner helm highlights, you'll
see some good Cam Ward throws. Yeah.
I mean, that's part of it for me with him is like he's making
some aggressive decisions. He's throwing some tight
coverage at the same time, like literally no one on that team
could create separation in my mind.
Like they're just not good receivers.
Yeah, I mean, that's fair. My thing with Ward is like when
a player turns in just like consistently inefficient week
after week type of performances. And he was like, just writing it
up every week. It's like, maybe this week he'll
do. No, it's like like.
JJ McCarthy. Was having better spikes than
him. You know, it's like this is this
is like extremely concerning and it hey, maybe this guy ends up
putting it together, but is it next year?
Is it one wide receiver pick type of thing away?
Like probably? Not like your.
Baseline assumption is like this dude is probably a bust, Not
that he's definitely a bust, but like that's kind of where I
think. Is that what you how you felt
about Caleb after the rookie year?
Because Caleb, Caleb wasn't nearly this bad.
He wasn't nearly this bad. He's also like 10 times the
prospect Cam Ward was. I'm sure that's why I was
asking. About Patsy research on.
In the walkthrough for. For Caleb as a rookie, I.
Was just Caleb was spiky dude, Caleb.
Caleb flashed like she was inconsistent as hell.
But like when he has some awesome weeks, we were like,
this dude looks fucking sick and like putting together really
strong games as a rookie, but then he'd have these horrible
games too. So you're like, man, what is
this guy? What do we have?
And at that point I was like, I think I'm moving off of the idea
that he's this generational type of quarterback, but like the
idea that he could break out. I mean, some of us never
wavered. Some of us, yeah.
To tell me I was. I was the.
Caleb Williams, Bull last year. In the that was the one.
That kept Caleb close to Drake May in our.
Yeah. I was like, dude, this ceiling
is here. Like, we have to.
I couldn't remember. That's why I asked.
So that's fair. Yeah, I would just.
I would just ask this Pat. Like, I know we we talked.
We had this exact same argument on our, like, Dynasty show about
Ward. But like, obviously I'm not like
you're gonna pretend I'm some film expert.
No one on this panel's probably like a film expert.
Like does it not affect how much the the way that the sort of
grander NFL community discusses Ward is so different than how
the fantasy community does? Like you won't find any of these
guys that consider his rookie year a failure or bad like the
he's talked about as a more secure quarterback than dart and
Shuck like by a long shot in those circles.
And it just it feels to me that there's some possibility that,
like what the larger consensus on him is from a film
perspective and from a talent perspective is is getting missed
in our numbers, in part because situation was so terrible that I
just feel like I'm keeping a little bit more of a light on.
I think it's very bad statistically.
Yeah. And it's totally reasonable to
be like, the rookie year does not perfectly reflect who this
player is. And going forward, there's more
upside than what he showed as a rookie.
And the typical rookie, he performed like this doesn't
really reflect rewards outlook. You know, that that would be too
bearish to say like, well, I perform like this and rubber
pieces perform like this, have gone in to do X in the future.
So he'll go in to do X. Like, yeah, you can definitely
like widen the range of outcomes and create a little bit more of
a sealing case reward because the film guys do and by and
large are still very in. But I think they're missing the
bigger picture, which is that he came in as as the number one
overall pick. Fair predominantly played like
as older in terms of real football, like he flashed, he
had some highlights, but he was not driving the Titans to
success in any real way. And I think that matters.
But that's tough when you're coaches.
I know it's shit and gets fired after week 6 and Mike McCoy is
your interim coach. That's why I made the Caleb
tough because they dealt with Eberfluse and Waldron and in
season firing it was Caleb was Caleb's rookie year to me was
like everything fell apart and you're trying to play football
in a situation that is a fucking dumpster fire and you're not
getting coached and like it's an actual dumpster fire.
Like it's like you, you lay you lay in that context on on EPA
and like EPA does like factor in everything, like how good your
teammates are, but it was literally one of the worst ever.
So it's like, is this is this a context?
No it doesn't. Factor in how good your.
Teammates are exactly how how does how does wards?
Well, no, what I mean is it's it's a reflection of how good
your teammates are. Like it's not just a.
Quarterback thing. Right, right.
I see what you're saying. Like does it, does it look
similar in the numbers to Lawrence's?
Because I I think there's also. Similarities there.
Where, yeah, you get a talented guy, you get a talented guy who
obviously has some serious issues in his development right
now in a bad situation. And then also this attitude that
is not like, willing to just check it down for six yards and
punt. You know, like I think both Ward
and Lawrence have the trait of no, like I'm always going to go
for the maximalist play even if I'm struggling.
And that can really 'cause it things to snowball on you, you
know, comparatively. But what year was was was
Lawrence. I'll pull it up cuz that's a
good the 2021 draft. We should also know quick if
anyone's following us for the Dallas Cowboys took a edge
rusher Malachi Lawrence staff. Yeah.
Are you happy about that? I don't know a ton about him.
I saw him on the. Boards up.
There I'll. Have to.
Read what some of the experts say about him.
I know he's from Miami, right? I know he's from UCF, the Miami
guy. OK, yeah, he went one pick ahead
of him. Messidor yeah, the word thing.
To be clear, I'm. Not like super into Oh, sorry,
go ahead Steph. I want no, no, no, no, no, no.
I I mean, I'm happy we. Got the positions we.
Needed. I will trust that I I think he's
a little more raw than some of the others, but I'll have to see
what all the experts say before deciding and hopefully, you
know, I do. I do think we have a decent
scouting department a lot of times on the players themselves,
if they just hit the right, Cowboys generally draft pretty
well. Pretty well, yeah.
The Texans trade is super. Expensive.
They went from, they went from 28 to 26.
They got 91. Back and they.
Traded 63 and 168. Feels a lot.
Where are they going?
What noise? There's some.
Is there some offensive? Lineman They need shops in the
back. Yeah, I'm.
I'm gonna make room. For for the goat shop and you
guys. You guys enjoy his, all right.
Hey, you avoided Ty Simpson, and Aaron Rodgers is still
technically not your quarterback.
So good day. It's a great, great day to be
great. How do you feel about the pirate
'sness? I love them dude, love them.
They're struggling, they're getting their.
Aspy right now but I love them. There's a little bit of way.
They're a little way.
We're having fun, yeah. And the entire NL Central is
also. So like really good.
So that's. Annoying as shit, but yeah,
we're having fun. It's good times.
Good seeing you guys enjoy your draft.
Peace later. You're you're on.
Mute show. But but while he figures that
out. While his boomer figures that
out, I do want to stay on Ward. I'm not saying that Hello good.
Wow. I just want Ward my.
Buyers is I want. Ward to be like.
Good. Enough to stick because I think
he's yeah, me too, honestly. And we need quarterbacks like
that in the NFL. That's what I and so I'm I just
he's not Zach Wilson. That's the one where I'm like I,
I, I push back on it. Well, I look, he might not be
Zach Wilson, because that's about not as bad as you can.
Bust. But like he his rookie season
was very similar to Zach Wilson's, you know,
statistically. And I think that scares me.
We shouldn't be like, yeah, but he look cool.
Like, you know, it seems like it's not one matters more and it
feels. To me like.
It's kind of like, well, we don't have to worry about his
rookie season too much because the the weapons were bad and it
was the title, the case the coach was bad.
It's like, no, we should the of the argument because he knows
he's going to have 25% of Tate. In in best ball.
So he's just like pre? He's just pre bag defending.
He's he's making it. Ward's fault.
The case is that he didn't have an offense.
He didn't have players around. Him and he was dropping back in
obvious passing situations, which we know that the different
deficiency between obvious and non obvious patching situations
is massive, massive. And he was constantly throwing
into obvious pass defenses and like, yeah, he's taking those
shots. I mean, I, I like a guy who when
you're down, takes the aggressive.
Like Kevin Cole used to criticize Aaron Rodgers, cuz
when he was losing, he wouldn't take enough shots because he was
scared about his, his interception rate, right?
Like he should have. His argument was he should.
The correct number of interceptions is not zero.
But by the way, it's Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Like Ryan. Fitzpatrick used to be this
dude. The Fitzmagic.
Stuff, he would capture it sometimes.
Other times he would throw the picks in those spots.
That was Lawrence's rookie year, too.
That was also Lawrence's rookie year, and I think they're a very
similar type of quarterback. The Texans, by the way, they
traded up. They gave up this huge expensive
thing. Like, what are they gonna do?
They took an O Lyman, who's ranked like 47 on the consensus
big board. Lomo, That sounds about right.
No, they took, they took Caden. Rutledge, A.
Garbage. I really don't know.
Yeah. Seriously.
Around like, yeah, he. Was like not projected to go
today he. Would have been like.
Plus a. 1000 or something, but they paid.
A bunch of shit to move up to get to him anyway because, and
they actually had there's a there's a higher ranked guard.
Chase Basantis is. Still on the board who's like
well ahead of Rutledge Chase Chase Basantis was the was the
insider info like, oh, I know about the.
Sports betting thing that he's going to go first round.
The Texans are such the fucking like we know.
Ball. Team Man D'amico Ryan's and Nick
Casario and all those guys, they think they know better than
everyone. I, I love.
And and he already, he already plays guard right, which is like
a position that usually ranks higher.
On big boards than. Where they go, 'cause like, no
one's, no one's value in guards is highly.
Even without that caveat, on Daniel Jeremiah's big board, he
ranked 47. I love, I love the Texans.
They make me so happy 'cause you know what's funny about?
The Texans. Is they that they traded with
the Bills? Well, they're smelling their.
Own farts with it because they've won.
Right, the Will Anderson trade. Has been a has been a has been a
win. Some of their some of their
other reaches have been wins. So they're going to keep doing
it and Shope, this is perfectly setting up for the memorial pick
33 Denzel Boston just run it back again.
See, I think they should do that because I thought.
When they drafted Coleman once, they got to pick 33, the
advantage we would all appreciate if you have the first
pick of the second round and everybody else has like almost
24 hours to negotiate with you. But the Bills are traded down
twice at that point and they were never going to do it again.
And I don't think Keon Coleman has been.
I mean, hear me out. Such a win.
They would rush back to the same thing.
But that's what I would do. I would do that.
Every year, if I could get to 3333 is the best pick of the
draft. I mean, Brandon Bean is just
sitting here watching film saying who is going to run?
The best screen route? Who is going to catch the
screen? The first game of our How do you
feel about Brandon Bean? So yeah.
I mean, I think most of these guys.
Are between 85 and 15. On the scale, you know, they
just, they get some right, they get some wrong.
What I like about him, and this is probably no, he's definitely
not below 15 for me. What I like about him?
Sort of personally and professionally is he's a mover
and a shaker. He likes to do things.
So he traded out of the spot and did he not do well?
I mean, that's probably a pretty good move.
Yeah, he got a great return. They move up.
Yeah, they move up from the very.
End of round three, right, wasn't it?
I already forgot. Yeah, they were.
They were not in the second round because of DJ Moore.
And right they got. That pick back, yeah, pretty
good. Yeah, They got the DJ Moore pick
back, which is. Huge SO.
I like that about him. That he is not afraid or just.
Sort of shy, but you know, in terms of picking players, it's
gone wrong a few times. I think the biggest mistake
philosophically the Bills have made, Ben is trying so hard to
get quarterbacks on the ground and have they have failed badly.
That's also Von Miller. That might be Bradley Chubb,
it's maybe Russo. And of course and Ebenessa and
Boogie Basham. Like I think they have the sort
of the their eyes are in the wrong place.
But otherwise, I think the draft is the draft and you're going
to, as long as you get the process right, you, you won't
fail too badly. All right, I have these charts
up. Bear with me because I just
made. These and the scales.
Are going to change. Year to year, so you'll have to
Niners trade. I'll have to deal with that
Niners trade. So this is sorry Niners.
Oh. Do we have any?
I'll keep their ticket. Your receiver.
Denzel Ball. OK, let's.
Talk about that. We'll talk about this.
Miami, Ohio, I bet. It's going to be Cooper.
Well, one of them is. Cooper and one is Boston.
Yeah. One of the other Who do we what?
Where I don't want Denzel, Boston, Buffalo.
Is not taking a. Wide receiver, I don't think I.
Agree, Jake. Buffalo Buffalo is going.
To take they need defects dated. McDonald's I.
Agree. Yeah, OK.
I don't know. But I agree.
Sorry, Pat. You had a whole chart thing.
I got a Sporkle quiz up for you, but you got this.
Yes, let's do Sporkle. And it's my second glass of
whiskey. Davis has got the Alexander the
Great wiki page up, so I'm. Ready you're.
Off when I jump on. Did they?
Oh, they traded out. OK.
All right. So this is 20/21.
This is the Zach. Wilson.
Trevor Lawrence season Trevor Lawrence -2 EPA like a 45 ish
percent success rate. A little below Zach Wilson down
here. Go to the next year.
I'm I'm terrified. Hey, Baker, Mayfield's down
where Zach Wilson wasn't here. Baker Mayfield, he's good.
Yeah, this was the Baker Mayfield.
Rams crash out, Panthers Rams crash out here, right?
Yeah. So this was not the typical
Baker Mayfield year. But Mac Jones here is a rookie
good example of how a situation that was a second year situation
can lead to really bad stats for a gunslinger mentality like a
Baker Mayfield. Just, you know, you know, if
you're thinking about that kind of.
And Baker Mayfield is like, yeah -4 GPA 36% success rate.
God damn we cannot. Pat is setting us up.
I can hear it in his voice. I don't know how fucking that's
a good setup. We want Baker Mayfield.
We want nobody said. Minus.
Fours, because it's about to be -8 ish.
That's fine. This is the PAT walk from the
catwalk walk. Here's Bryce Youngs, rookie.
Year pretty rough minus 7:00-ish.
EPA This is like the dunk contest where?
He's got like the. Crowd, he's doing one of these.
He did his big toss in the air like he did a 360 like for no
reason. Oh God, he's so excited.
It's the parent. Here's Will levis -6 EPA.
Oh, no, not very good. Little little concerning in his
second oh, he's gonna say the Watson 1.
Here comes DeMarcus Russell. Here's and here's Cam ward.
Cam Ward -5. EPA -5 EPA. 39 success rate
Sanders Sanders was worse, but this chart would be a lot more
impressive if shudder Sanders wasn't on it for your argument.
Well, look where J McCarthy is. That can't be good.
Look where J McCarthy. Is.
JJ McCarthy had Justin. Jefferson, Jordan.
Addison and TJ Hawkinson. Catching his fucking passage, I.
Know, are you guys crazy? This is EPA and success rate.
The guy catching the pass fucking matters.
I'm not saying and you missed and you missed the best part.
His OC was Mike McCoy compared to Kevin O'Connell.
Yeah, what are we talking about? This is not an apples to apples.
He had Justin fucking Jefferson. But this was a horrible book
this season and much worse, much worse than Caleb Williams.
Here's Caleb Williams. Sexual lies.
Here's Anthony Richardson here. No dude, I'm I'm just the this
is the fucking context. The context is his rookie season
was actually worse than JJ McCarthy's by the stats.
Now you can add additional context to explain why.
Because he didn't play his rookie season.
It was the second season. Well, it was his rookie season.
The context is nuanced on this. Oh, sorry, the number of years
doesn't override it. Was.
Younger than Gord, there's a fucking stat for we all learn a
different. Pace.
Anyway, I I think I think the difference.
Even compared to Trevor Lawrence's rookie year, it.
It it was significantly worse. So here let's go back to that
one again. Here's here's Trevor Lawrence -2
EPA actually pretty good success rate.
That was the rookie year crash out with Urban Meyer.
How how how I I think I think a difference in perspective is
it's. Letter the.
Additional context, is it nuanced on the absolutely
terrible number or does it like override the absolutely terrible
number? I I would tend to be.
It doesn't override it doesn't override it it's.
That's where. I go too.
I don't start on the number. I expected to see terrible
numbers because I watched the fucking game before I looked at
the stats like I knew what are we talking about shit
statistically because I watched him play with terrible players
and push balls into shitty spots and when he was trailing and
then I wrote every week on stealing signals.
Yeah, his numbers are going to be fucking terrible, but I don't
think he's playing that bad. He's just being super aggressive
in a terrible situation. The Dolphins, by the way, traded
up before by case standing in the.
Numbers. It's just like the numbers are
are the the. Part are the, you know, are the
confirmation of what I already know existed.
I would like to start with the thing that's most predictive.
All right, Bill's, Bill's on the clock, so not stealing signals.
Wait, did they trade? In did they?
They should. I I think.
Someone in the. Someone in the chat just said
the Bills traded again because they're.
They're back up now. Maybe they were asked.
They're going to pick 33. Oh.
I don't have that yet. Is that right?
They should. No, I don't have a trade.
Yet. No, no, the bills are out at 28.
Yeah, yeah, Dolphins take a corner.
I think this is McDonald as Jacob predicted.
Or. They traded back up Cooper.
No, no, they're, they're just back.
Like they they were Patriots traded up.
Oh no, now. Now the.
Patriots did trade with? Oh, the Patriots traded with the
Bills? No, dude.
This is bad. The bills don't take bills.
Oh, please don't take Omar. You were just talking.
About branded being processed. And then he.
Traded back up dude. Yes no, this might be Basantis.
Wait. Are we?
Not getting a guard, I think it's going.
To be a guard A. Guard would be great.
A guard would be great. Because the Bills.
Were. Heavily.
Rumored to take Basantis so I you can see the patriots getting
in front Davis Davis. The bills trading with New
England is a small man's version of the Cowboys trading with
Philadelphia, which by the. Way that's when I saw Dallas in
Philadelphia trade I thought maybe Dallas went backwards and
didn't know what they were doing when they traded with Howie but
I guess they maybe they did OK oh I I mean they got their picks
back I mean obviously lemon I. Close, I closed the wrong.
Tab they don't have a. Corner so Lemon's probably going
to store us. Oh, fault would make.
A lot of who is making. This pick for New England,
Diane. What's his face?
You. Pat is making this pick.
For the Patriots, and it's going to be Omar.
Or it's going to be, who do I even going to be?
I think it's going to be Keldrick Faulk or Chase Basantis
who's picking. The Patriots, Yeah, OK.
I thought the Bills traded up. OK, they trade up with the
Bills. Remember when the speculation
was that they would trade back out of the first round so Mike
Vrabel wouldn't have to speak? Oh, yeah.
I so I, I think the Patriots. Had a barely viral.
Tweet off of that. Joke.
Patriots. I think the Patriots jumped for
for Faulk. Lomu No, they just not.
Stay with the low move smash. Low move is still on the board.
Wow, hell. Yeah, man.
Awesome. Let's go.
You're. Hey, you, you.
Join like 6. People that know who he is.
We also had 125 for moving down three in a draft.
Caleb Lemou. So am I the first fan of the
team that's happy about the? Victim at at Utah.
This will be the Morgan Moses Republica man.
I'm with you. On trying to.
Figure out the pronunciation. Let's go.
You just got to play more. CFB 26 bet is this guy.
The fucking emu. Emu like all these guys is this
the what's the fucking insurance company with a limu Limu we got
we just got it like you don't know Lomu Lomu insurance, I
mean. Lomu is an insurance.
Policy for Morgan Moses at right tackle.
So there's your insurance. There you go.
The Bills are winning. I honestly love this.
The Bills are. I mean, they just beat the
Bruins, the Sabres. Beat the Bruins and.
Now they're just. Chiefs are certainly not winning
the night and they're going to take just want to talk about the
Sabres, so tell us about the. Sabres How are the Sabres No
like there are 7 of. You.
I'm not going to try to. This is like the classic passive
aggressive no? I didn't feel the guy.
Bastard. No.
You want you want to hear passive.
Aggressive I. Have my own show so I'll just.
Oh, no, I think that's just aggressive actually.
Yeah, that was pretty aggressive.
Hey Chad, if anyone wants to do say more.
Nice things. About Drake May I will pull him
up. So just how's?
How's the show going to be tomorrow?
Just just fucking peacocking the whole time?
Game 3IN Boston, sorry. So you know, then it's it's I'll
be I'll be quick. It's harder when they win.
We have Ross Tucker. Tomorrow we'll talk about the
draft tomorrow because they won. If they'd lost to Boston, we'd
have 100 callers wanting to fire Everybody.
Got it. That makes life easier.
It's harder when I also misspoke.
I. I thought he was the right and
Fano, it's the opposite. So does this mean Campbell's
going to kick in because he's a left tackle?
They could just play him at right tackle, but would they?
Would they kick? Campbell in the garb with the
short arms now that they. Have a left tackle.
I mean, you have Morgan Moses there, which.
Which is he's holding down. Right tackle, and he's a really
old. So I think you could, I don't
know enough about Lomu, but you could potentially start him as
like a reserve and then, you know, have him be the tackle.
I mean, it kind of it's interesting that Lomu played
left tackle while the right tackle on that same team was the
guy the Browns took at 9. OK, so he's like, presumably
pretty good at left tackle, but like that guy was.
On the right, on the same team. I mean honestly, it is
interesting that after Cameron goes struggle like he was after
he struggled, they just traded up to take a tackle.
Yeah, like. That has to be.
Connected it probably. Is just a guard.
Yep, Yep, they the Dolphins. The Dolphins took a guy Proctor
when I saw. Like he he played for Bama and
Saban was talking about and he's like, Oh yeah, he's a great
player. Just whenever he goes away from
the team, he gets fat. You got him back to the team.
You're the best, yes. All right, man.
Can we just can we just take, I mean it's it's half a bit
consiglier. It's half a bit.
Who the fuck is Woods? I literally don't even know what
is he. He was number.
One on the board before he's yeah, he's a good defensive
tackle like he was he. Was Jane Brogler's number one.
In. The August.
Run through but he's. Like, he's not a best tackle.
He's like a gap shooter guy. This is the Chiefs pick talking
about. Yeah, I thought.
That was your. Pick put him alongside Chris.
Jones, dude. Defensive.
Tackles. Matter in the modern NFL, man,
this is this all right? Gas me up.
Gas me up because the Chiefs it feels like feels like a big wet
fart. For the first time they ever had
a top ten pick in the Mahomes era.
I just what you did earlier, you ought to be able to pressure up
the middle nowadays and you got to be able to.
Stop the. Run up the middle.
How much is? How is this guy big?
He's like he's undersized for a. Defense, he's like 298, like
he's 5. 10191 Very small for a defensive.
Tackle 510 Somebody in the chat like David's biggest man alive,
Kate McDonald. Kate McDonald was like the big
fat. Nose tackle.
Peter Woods. The Bills will still get it.
Harold McCoy Mold OK, you need. You need to be able to.
Put 6 DBS on the field. Maybe.
Seven in the playoffs in the AFC so you need to be able to have D
tackles that can can take on like a double team and hold
their ground and fucking control both the the run game and the
pass game. The interior of the defensive
line matters so much to the bottom.
I have some very bad news in that case, because the Chiefs
have. 3 defensive backs on the fucking roster right now.
So no. They got Chris Jones and they
just took a first round DT to put.
Next, so just trade it up just trade it up Omar Cooper time
Omar Cooper, Ron Cooper time Oh my God, Ron come back by the way
you can get. You.
Can. Get Ron.
Stewart back on the show. I'm fucking pinging him right
now. We got to get him on we got to
get him on. You can get Woods that over why
when he gets disappointed when they.
Don't do it, Yeah. Of course, that's the whole
point. Of The Jets, you watch them,
that's the entire point. Get disappointed.
So I'm of compared. I'll be very disappointed.
For fantasy if. That happens.
Who's the funniest player The Jets could take Garrett.
Nussmeyer. Omar Cooper.
Omar Cooper a good thing, because that's.
Why they didn't take lemon? You know, Sadiq and Cooper would
be a real thumb. Your nose at.
The yards per team. Pass attempt.
Screenshot man, watch him take a running back.
Person. That would be.
Very funny to friends. They only gave up.
Hot They only gave up 170. 9:00 so that so they basically moved
up for free. Our friend who enjoys cocaine
says Star Wars to The Jets. Would be the funniest look if
that if Star Wars goes to The Jets, Greggy.
D Come on the show and do a line like.
I think ours, Oh my God, no, they're not too.
Towers would be too good. Is that not quite a bit?
Is that not realistic? At all?
No, I don't. Think that's real Back?
Back at this point would be like but I.
Want it so bad? Funny is the Michael Pennington.
It would be the best ratings back to the house.
Real funnier if Carson back. Is like a meme.
If Carson. Back into The Jets in round one.
That would be the best day on the history of the Internet.
Like like the most memed quarterback in college football.
Go to The Jets in the first round.
It's possible, isn't it? What today sounded like on
Twitter with. The IT.
Is possible. Great.
No, it's Omar Cooper. Officially.
No way. No way.
God, Ron, come back. Ron, start the March run.
Crazy. Oh my.
God, dude. So how free are Siddiqi Cooper
gonna be in Ricky drafts getting both drafted to the same shitty
team behind Garrett Wilson? Yeah, it's really Omar Cooper
Junior that did the thing. I'm pointing at his TV.
Right now they did it. He admitted it, He admitted it.
He admit it. Oh.
My God, he admit it. They.
Really didn't that's I can't believe it I.
It's just this is such a great moment in niche Internet.
Fantasy football. History and now the Bills are on
the clock at 31. Did they trade?
McDonald as an hour ago, the same, I mean.
Literally all the same players they could have picked an hour
ago. That's Boston, but it won't be.
I think that's McDonald, but it probably will be.
Nothing's changed. They just got a top third, a
fifth, something else. Why not?
Easy game. Yeah.
Oh my God. I don't think it's a receiver.
They already use this second in this class.
To get DJ more. Like I agree just put everything
into wide receiver. I agree, but.
Consensus, Ben. Is the 10 receivers will be.
Picked tomorrow and now they gave themselves two more hacks
at that. So I think they do that.
Whether that's Chris Bell, I know, I know he's on last call.
The fact that we got, the fact that we got what, a total of
6/7? Skill players today, it's a bad
draft class. We're hoping for the best.
And of those seven skill players, one went to the
Cardinals, one went to the Browns and two went to The Jets.
Exactly what everyone was saying.
About this class for the last like.
Several months like this has been the draft.
You're going to be moving. Out of the 1:07 for a 28 like 2
second throw in the 1st I've got.
A I've got a fresh. You're going.
To be sitting there. At 1:08 and your best available
choices. Are Kenyan Sadiq and Omar
Cooper. Playing with each other and it's
going to be like, all right, I'll take a 29 third like.
I'm. Second City, Zach asked us the
other day if he should trade the one O 6 for baseball too, and I
was like, no. And Kyle Dvorchuk was like, no,
I don't think we're all kind of like, Nah, like at least wait
until after the draft. And you like, I think it's on
the Browns, dude. I think you can still get that
trade done, but you're going to have to throw in your 27 first.
Yeah, yeah, probably should have jumped on it.
And I think that ship is nailed now.
Yeah. All right, I got it.
From since we're delaying 1 or 6 now, who is Simpson going to be
like the one O 6 in Superflex God I.
He's still out as a. Third round rookie pick for me,
it's Jacob on that point. Hayden just.
Tweeted that he thinks. The GM is way more excited about
Simpson than McVeigh is. Let's need told Ty Simpson's dad
last week he's going to be a first round pick.
And finally, my favorite tires when Stafford retires, then I
don't care about Ty Simpson at all.
I don't care about him if he's Mcveigh's quarterback, right?
Right I'm I'm refreshing Ron's Twitter page, just for the
record. The last tweet 5 minutes ago.
Was about Rossini and nothing since then and I'm just
concerned about his safety. Ron Stewart, if you're with us,
he was just watching like succession replays or something.
He was. Around 5:00.
Minutes ago, Cooper's highlights, too.
He was. Watching ESPN because he said
ESPN won't touch the Rossini thing and any coverage about
this New England pick, Huh. And then right behind that, The
Jets traded into a pig. He thought he was safe.
It seems like Jacob was right on
the Rabel Rusini theory that he I just.
Need to see him tweet. How mad was your theory?
Might have been you were correct.
My theory was that they're fucking.
Well, that was. Everyone's theory, wasn't it?
Not mine, yeah, but. I got to say it in the short OK,
so I had a theory that was about her face in the picture when
they were in the pool. Well, she knows that picture's
being taken, but if they've been together for six years, the
Bills trade it out again. Come on, let's go.
They. Trade it out.
The Titans, The. Titans are on the clock.
The. Bills, I can go out again.
You don't trade in, you don't have.
No, no, the Bills. Traded back and back and back.
Again. They traded back three times I
think, right? So how how many picks have they
got? This might be price.
So they went 26. 2828 to. 31 and then 31 to 34.
So they traded. That's three times.
That's fucking great. They're like pretty pricey.
They want, they need to get ahead.
It's like the what dream? If you're a fan, you're like,
yeah, just trade back a couple picks every time.
He already moved. There's a picture of Brady moved
their late 3rd all the way up a full round.
That's what Siegel. Does in every rookie draft I'm
in with. With him, he fucking just works
the phones and trades back 2 picks over and over and over.
And then we have like 17 picks and I'm like, well how did you
do this? And Kaden McDonald, the guy that
we liked for them, at 26, he's still on the board.
They might get him anyway. Yeah, I'd fucking love it.
If I'm a Bills fan, the Sabres won't send its.
Towers to the Titans. That's not a thing, Please.
Don't do that. Please don't do that.
There's no way. You can't do that.
To my sweets I have too. Much towers.
I mean *. Wars to the.
Titans would make. Me rethink Cam Ward a little
bit. You mean that?
You mean that twink you can't block?
Yeah. OK.
It's kind of hope. It's.
Really painful. They need weapons, man.
Wow, who's still on the board? That shouldn't be his.
Fault. Oh my God.
Well after the. Pick has already.
Happened. Ron just tweeted out what pick
he would make if he was a Jets GM, which is his yearly
tradition. It was a cornerback.
It was not a Mark Cooper the Bills went down for.
He's going through. It man, he's like 5 minutes.
Late on the actual pick tweeting out what?
Well, well, Ron tweeted. Like this?
Morning. Or was it, oh, was it Ron or no,
it was Elliot Crist who tweeted out this morning what I'm hoping
for. Arvel Reese, Mackay Lemon.
What I'm fearing David Bailey, Omar Cooper mailed it.
Guess what? Wow.
The bills went down 4. Picks moved up. 3.
In the. In the early. 3rd and then up 64
on Saturday. Not bad at all.
Mansor, Dillane. When asked about.
Being. Drafted today, he said.
Oh man, I really wanted to go to the Chiefs when they traded up
Keldrick Falk. Yeah, OK.
Yeah. That's a slider.
He was. He was pretty.
Yeah, I mean like 20. To Dallas Pretty.
Frequently. That's what I thought.
Kitchen. Back on all.
Of our all of our cobras, your. Kitchen back your kitchen back,
we got. To bring him back, although
Stewart just would be bringing him back to Cobra some more,
right? It's but he's a Jet.
He's a Jets fan. Yeah.
It's, you know, Kitchen did have a.
Joke about. The Jets where?
It was something like. Everybody says this is the worst
draft of all time and they just say let me make tree first round
picks in it. Here's here we go.
I've got the. Official.
I've been refreshing not. Gonna cry over the Cooper pick
at 30. Fine pick if you pass on wide
receiver at 17. I just wouldn't have done that.
Knee jerk C plus round one grade for me.
That's where he landed. C Plus this is Ben talking with
his frozen face. That.
That's what is happening right now, OK.
There he is. I'm not sure Ron has his heart
in that C plus. Great.
No, no he didn't. It didn't seem.
Like AC plus night, from where I was sitting, you picked three
times in the first round. I mean, I like the.
Siddiq pick, but do we get pricier guys to the Seahawks I.
I still have, so I just I just. Updated I just updated my
rankings but I hope we do. It would be really fun.
I've got I have like the fantasy in me once, once to.
Right. I want to see Jonah Coleman.
I want to. I think you're gonna have to
wait years. For Simpson, I think.
Honestly I think Simpson's kind of like a mid to late second
round superplex type. Of pick.
He's you're not going to get anything for a long time.
Yeah, fine. I I'm not saying where he'll go.
I'm saying I don't think like you're just going to have to sit
on it for a couple years. Jordan Love was worth like
nothing after it was clear he wasn't going to play.
You know, like no one wants to, no one wants to do that.
I'm not spending a mid first round pick on that.
I'm not getting that back next year.
And you're you're normally an advocate for.
Actually valuing those like gross.
First round quarterbacks because.
Yeah. Because when they go in the
second round or or late, oh, sorry, yeah, like a Herbert or a
Daniel Jones. But those guys are gonna start
like, yeah. And so they hold their value.
But Right. Exactly.
If they're not gonna play well, nobody's gonna give you anything
for them. Exactly.
I'm. Actually impressed the NFL
didn't take Denzel Boston in the first round cuz I mean, he's I'm
a get up guy. Well, the Bills don't pick until
tomorrow. Listen.
I don't think you are trade you up to.
This is this is Mike Washington. This is Mike.
Washington Junior No, they're going to.
Take a running back later, they're going to take Jonah
Coleman later. That's the hope.
Mike Washington, junior Seattle should take Jermad McCoy, if you
ask me. Like if you want.
Your Super Bowl. Team, you have this amazing
defense, you get a chance to take a top ten player because of
longevity concerns with his knee.
Like just just go win the Super Bowl in the next 4 years with a
with a guy who's going to be amazing.
Yeah. I thought McCoy was gonna.
So McCoy at 12, he he. Was like a top ten player by
most the. Consensus.
He tore his ACL. And he missed all of last year.
He got a a full clear on the ACL, but they found that he has
a cartilage issue in his knee that he needs a bone plug.
And so people think he might be like a one contract and done
like kind of like, what's this Jay Ajayi?
You know, like to me, if you're Seattle and you're in a window
and you have this and you've lost like all sorts of DP just
Oh yeah, get the guy. I thought I saw something.
Did they take price? Yes, I was right.
Oh. The price?
Of the. Let's get.
Out of the. Bag the price.
Of the brick going up. There's.
One if. You win the Super Bowl, you have
to take good morning. I mean look, I made fun of a.
Lot of what Seattle did last year and they owed me.
Repeatedly. So I just can't say anything
about this crappy what 32? Where does prices ADP land?
Fifth round. Fourth Round.
Yeah, 5th, 4th 5th round Yeah 5th, 4th like he's gonna.
Go. Like right next to like Trevion
Henderson, he'll go ahead. He'll go ahead and he'll go
ahead. And Henderson, he's ahead of
Henderson over Henderson right now.
Yes, Yeah. No, I'm not.
Taking. He'll go ahead.
And price over. Trevor Henderson, but I think.
People will, yeah, I don't think.
I'm not taking Price anywhere close, I just won't take Price
again or his his fucking career high in rush attempts.
Was like 1. 120 and he had 15 catches in college.
Do you even know You're not convincing us?
I mean, he plays alongside. You're talking to the wrong
people. Convincing like we're not like
we're. Not gonna draft this guy.
Ben like. We already drafted my last
Jadarian. We drafted it our fucking bags
early, though. Yeah, we're happy about this.
The Seahawks. Will be taking.
The Bears. The Seahawks will play the.
Bears in the opening night of the season unless.
That Australia game. Gets in the way.
Doesn't he get the first touch? Yeah, yeah.
No, I don't think so. I don't think he does.
I don't think he does, yeah. George Elani gets the.
First touch. Or Daniel Wilson, George Elani.
I think, I think look bad. The good news is Evangel Wilson
could beat out generic Price. Isn't it?
He good? Yeah, come on.
Oh, man. All right.
So first round pick. Hey.
Your 106 just. Just spiked up.
Like I was going to say, yeah, he was going to be 5106 and he
maybe should be the. 105I. I'll maybe put him ahead of
Mendoza. You're gonna.
You're gonna get lemon. You're gonna get lemon with the
106. Think of out of Mendoza and
Superflex. Dynasty.
He doesn't have a good profile. He's back up running that out.
His profile looks good. Mendoza Good.
Wow, Draco yes or no isn't even high like this show, right?
OK, let's let's say we're completely.
Wrong. Let's say like let's say.
We're. Dumb and the Seahawks are smart
and he's awesome. And he's going to be a huge
successful real life player. He's still a 203 LB guy who has
zero pass game outside on a team that we just saw use Ken Walker,
who's infinitely better than this guy in like a 10 point per
game role because they wanted to give Zach Charbonnet pass game
work and goal line opportunity. Why would they give Price a
better role than Walker? Just got like what's the mean?
1010 points per game in this class is probably like the one
so too I think I. Think we need to let chop chop
pull up the the. Sporkle.
That he has and have eight people yelling answers at him
instead of fighting about Jerry price it's there well you have
to pick a different one what do you guys want to argue about
before I leave I. Gotta get going, boys.
I mean, I want to argue about it in the morning.
Jadarian Price, Yeah. That's like, fun.
Let's talk about Jadarian Price. I mean, all right, I'll pick
something, I think. I don't know.
I. Mean I think Jadarian Price is a
30. 2nd pick overall in the in the draft is a running back you
know in the mid first is fine. I wouldn't have him over
Mendoza. I I don't think hold on.
I I bet I bet you Darian price even with.
His shitty profile just with the 32nd overall draft.
I'm gonna update his slap score right now.
Comes out as an early 2nd for me.
Early second round rookie pick. So there's inflation though,
man, there's inflation. Sadiq, by the way, comes out as
an early second round. Rookie pick with Sadiq looks
like shit in my model. Sadiq.
Like the like like Sadiq. I gave, I gave Stours, I gave
Stours draft capital 60 and Sadiq at 20 and when I ran the
shit and Stours is ahead of him. Yeah, Stours probably won't flip
Sadiq now, but they were. Like neck and neck the whole
time. For me, depending on what draft
capital they got, I think Sadiq will come out ahead now.
This is the worst first round we've had in a lot of years in
the NFL. Yeah, it's really.
Bad. Yeah, not a good person.
Big win for for like the value of rookies.
Like price? Yeah, man, it was huge for
Price. It was huge.
Bye Steph. Signing off.
Good night. Bye Steph.
I am. Unfortunately I have to work
really early so. I don't.
I haven't won the Tout show yet. How do you feel about the
Cowboys draft before? You you sign off.
I'm pretty excited. I I.
Mean they did what? I wanted them to do for once.
I mean and. They got the.
Picks back that they traded out so they can still try to fill
all the holes. I mean, other than, you know,
giving the Eagles a player that now we don't have a cornerback
to defend. Against.
You know it'll be all good, but for.
Fantasy I like. Lemon's landing spot better than
most of the other receivers. That's pretty good.
Philly Eagles. Philly, right, Right.
Yeah, I like all the receiver landing.
Spots, to be honest. Like there was a lot of really,
really bad. Ones.
Like we didn't get any Miami Concepcion of the Browns is a
real bummer. The Jets 1 sucks.
I don't think that Jets are not fun.
Yeah yeah, Jets and Browns. That's fine with the Browns.
I'm OK with the break. We need to get a quarterback.
There we. Got 2 All right, I'll see y'all.
See ya, both of them like to see it back.
The top three though, right? Like.
Tyson Tate. I mean, Tate got.
An incredible landing spot where he goes 4 Tate has upside.
I think it I think it lowers the you guys want the the number one
cop the number #1 comp in the slot.
Model 2 top comps in the slot model given given the production
and the draft capital, his top comps TJ Yelden, Sony, Michelle.
Sounds about right. Sounds about right.
Was a pass catcher hang. On I'll get mine up.
Mine are Miles Sanders. Mark Walton.
I don't even remember Mark Walton, Damien Harris and.
Kendra Damien Harris. Feels right.
Damien Harris. Damien Harris is very good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know.
Miles Sanders that year. Was.
I believe in non. Superflex was like the one O 3
or one O 4. It was like, right, Jacobs was
that class. Am I thinking the right year?
Jacobs in 2019, the year with Jacobs?
No, no, OK. So where was Michelle went in
20? 18 I'm thinking of Montgomery.
I'm thinking of David Montgomery.
And Sanders was the year with Jacobs and Montgomery.
Those were the three in that class.
OK, OK. Jacobs Round 1, Sanders round
two and Monty round three. Yeah.
And Sanders was like that, like I think he was.
In that early 1st with those two guys, right?
It was like Mikhil Harry. That was a weak receiver class,
too, because, yeah, that was Harry.
It was. No, it was actually a good
receiver class, but we didn't realize.
In hindsight, it didn't seem like it.
Yeah. And like A.J., Brown went to the
Titans. Nobody wanted to do anything.
Anything to do with Metcalf? Even though he was awesome debo
people wanted to drop Harris Campbell because Andrew Luck
retired like 3 months later but he hadn't yet.
That's right, dude said it about Harris Campbell and Harry was
the the wide receiver one, which, you know, that didn't
work. How are we situated for
tomorrow? So all these running backs.
Are still there except for price is not happening.
I'm not in that comment, sorry. What?
Do you say shout tons of receivers tomorrow?
All the running. Backs.
Except price. Tomorrow.
Also, tomorrow should be really fun.
We might get only one running back tomorrow.
It might just. It could be.
It could be bad, yeah. Washington.
And I think just Washington is a good bet, I think.
Coleman has a decent chance. Johnson has a.
Chance, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't be super now that the
Bills have all the picks. I mean, that wouldn't.
Lend itself. Now think about this round of
this fun thing. Well, if you want to fucking.
Projections. For.
Like Speaking of which. I got to go because.
I got to go record a video. On all these picks for.
The for the Davis Medic YouTube channel.
So I'm gonna I'm gonna leave. Who wants to go to Denny's?
See ya. I gotta get out of here right
now. Are you?
I can't have I don't have time for Dennis later boys, you're
right. Later on projectionally or an
interesting crash like. Like they're kind of just.
Going into like slots where there were no.
Players. Before on shitty teams.
Well, some of them are, but some of them are the Cardinals.
Didn't need. Jeremiah Love.
It's like 6:00. Where you live, So yeah, but you
know. Ben when you're when you're as
loaded as a team, like the Cardinals, just.
EPA, baby. Did you see the Schrager tweet
that was? Like.
For most teams, I wouldn't be able to justify drafting a
running back or three. But like for the Cardinals,
there's like a number of factors.
And he was, he pointed to like they're standing in the NFC West
as bad. They have a lot of cap room and
they're lacking notoriety in the press.
The trigger is like if you if you need someone to carry.
Water. If you just punch yourself in
the Dick, you've. Got lots of notoriety.
Thank you. Exactly.
Just just call it press conference.
And punch. Yourself.
Right. Yeah, where does notoriety you
worried about? 13 in the models.
Where does that plug in you might be worried about?
It was going. To be.
It was I don't want. To misquote Peter.
It was their current place in the daily conversation of the
NFL, And that's better than notoriety press.
Hey, you know, you know, it's a fairpoint.
Look, look, you're in a division.
With Sean McVay. Kyle Shanahan and now Mike
McDonald in the second year wins the Super Bowl and you really
are looking uphill at everyone, so just fucking punch yourself
in the Dick over and over. Like what?
What so? Some of these running.
Backs are not going to be active on that like game.
Week right like. How do you how do you like,
maybe I'm, I'm counting this wrong, but like, they've got
Benson, Connor, Algier and love. Benson.
'S a zero. Yeah.
Benson. Benson.
Probably. None of those guys are like
playing special teams right? Algiers?
Algiers been a special teams are all along.
That's why I'd never understood a fucking ADP.
All you idiots who are drafting him are idiots.
Sorry. Well Jacob drafted 2% dude.
That's a lot. He also had I'm I'm blaming the
auto draft. Special.
Teams are. Before contract and people were
like he's a starting running back now and I didn't.
What do you have Zach? What do you Hey, that call.
I think I had like that early call when I said Benson or
Connor or both are going to be cut looking looking better in
that next on it next on about 1800 top guy drafts.
So I'm on the sidekick. So yeah, Zach, who are you into?
I want to know because you actually are paying attention.
I'll, I'll just read off my exposures here.
First, let me see how much Algier I.
Have. Let's see, I hope it's well
enough for my Grant Algier. Has always been a problem for
the starter. 0. Point. 5%.
I have two, two Algier drafts over like 500 teams.
Let's go. Yeah, this this is a good for
the question of where he's going to fall in dynasty drafts.
I'm in a like fantasy group chat.
But one guy who has not been paying attention to rookies
until today, but is in like 30 dynasty leagues, he's like easy
price over Concepcion and Lemon. Yeah, dude, yeah.
And I was like, how come he's like first round running back or
two receivers sent to live in hell.
Easy choice, bro. So like, that's that's where the
casual dynasty price over lemons going to be a thing going 1415.
Yeah, yeah. Is anybody coming off love
Anybody? No.
No good. Not at.
All maybe a. Little bit for the tradition, or
else I'll. See you guys next time.
Yeah. That you wouldn't come off of
them and you wouldn't come off them in the sense that you
wouldn't take them one-on-one. Right.
No, no, no. He's any format.
Yeah, what are you saying like in in best ball or?
Redraft. You'd be a little.
Bit lower he should go. I think that's higher.
Best ball he should, I think. I wonder yeah, like to wear like
2-3 like the Genty stuff after after Josh Jacobs.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Like I think I'd take him ahead of Jake.
Those guys, where's Jacobs going?
2-3 turn Like how many, how many touchdowns 3rd?
Do the Cardinals score? As a team, I'm not.
I'm not saying that. Low on love?
Not a decent amount like their offense was fine last year with
preset. They still have AI mean they
have a great skill group yeah, they were actually I don't want
to take him in in in genti 2025 range late first round like yeah
he's been going in the early 2 and I think he's going to fall.
I think he's going to be more in the daring.
I think he's going to fall after going third.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's landing spot.
But that was he was going to go high.
You know, that was because people were thinking he could
have gone to like the commander. Plausible antics.
Yeah, right. If the commanders, what he went
on today, it was baked in that he was going top seven at worst.
But yeah, yeah. I think people would have even
been more excited about the Titans because it's like, yes,
yeah, it was probably commanders first, Titans second.
Probably. Is this better than Giants?
I think Giants, Giants. It's better than Giants because
is it? I like scataboo would have been
a a thorn in his side. He's going to get all the time
right. Connor's a real issue.
Is he not? I don't think so.
They made Connor Ben take Connor Ben getting caught.
Oh, I thought I thought Ben was being facetious.
He was about no, it's been dead serious because James Connor's
known as like a real good clubhouse guy and like I
wouldn't be surprised if they actually use him early in the
year to like. I wouldn't be shocked if they
used him early in the year. But I mean, it's one of the
things we'd buy this game not if they didn't sign up, but but
also like the bet with. I honestly think that was
awesome special. Team if he's awesome, James
Connor is not a. Problem for most of the year.
Maybe it like hurts his early season outlook a little bit but
I don't know. I'm not real worried.
Connor plays ahead of Algier. I mean, yeah.
Dude I honestly thought Algier was in line to be the. 3rd
running back. I thought Connor and Benson,
like Benson, was a lot of shock. Pretty big.
Yeah, yeah, we're shot White, like White and JCM are both
gonna be. Sky Yeah, we have.
A. We've got bags.
Of white man only. Oh darn.
Only 26% are shot White could have been more.
Yeah, that's great. Yeah.
I, I do really need Chris Brazzell to go tomorrow cuz I do
have like 43% Chris Brazzell. Yeah, I have a bunch of Brazzell
and Hurst and Bryce Lance I got high on at the end.
I have Altier got to be the huge winner.
Bernard I got. Yeah, yeah, Altier played at
least 5 special team snaps, which I know.
Doesn't sound like a lot. But it's like. 20% of the
special team snaps in every game for the Falcons and the prior
he's finished the year playing like 15 plus in most of the
second-half of the year. Like this is a legitimate
special teams player that's also been in RB2 that they paid like
1.5 million or what did they pay him?
It was not a lot. I can't remember what All right,
they. Didn't pay him a ton all.
Right, Sporkle. Everyone was like, he's going to
go. Be their starter.
I'm gonna. It's a guy.
It's five and a half million for the Sporkle experts.
Sag. Great to see you, buddy.
Hey, good to see you guys. Thanks for jumping on.
Have a good one. You too.
See you sag. Just before Algiere got a five
and a half million dollar. Bonus.
Like his contract? Yeah, he can.
Like yeah, you got a lot of money.
I was thinking of the wrong contract obviously. 8 million
fully guaranteed. What the fuck were they doing?
They just gave him 8 million fully guaranteed and then
drafted fucking. Love for the third?
Yeah. That's indefensible.
Yeah, that's. Dude, Algiers got to be so
pissed. Like, what does this guy have to
do? I know.
Like this is all. Algiers whole career he's been
waiting for his chance and then he theoretically gets it and
they're like, no, we're actually Bijan and you again, I thought
he got a smaller deal than this. That's, I mean, honestly, I was
a little. Bit wrong on.
Rashad, like all the profile guy who got the shit contract, he
was the one that got like 2 million.
Who Rashad was white, was white, was the guy that everybody
thought would get money. They got no money but a lot of
the running back contracts this year were bigger than they
normally. Are.
And I think it's because of how shit they're running back
classes. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's
partially true. I think there's specific stuff
with Keaton and C Rod where because they were declined
ERFAS, you got to sign them without accounting towards the
COMPIC formula, which drove up their market value a little bit.
So you don't have to sacrifice a qualifying player.
Like if you sacrifice Algiers. No one's like that.
No one's sitting through Jacob naming the prime ministers of
Canada. What's happening?
What are you doing? You're worried about the ratings
at this point. So, Wilfred.
Laurier. That's your concern.
You've been on this show, Charles.
Tupper. Lester P Pearson.
What do you what do you want to play?
I. Had I had another one up?
Earlier and then it went. Sideways.
So I'll, I'll go back. I was rather geography guy.
Geography guys. Sports and geography are are
the. Guys are just you guys.
Are just afraid of our great. Country.
Show's about to pull up cities that the Canadian prime.
Ministers were born. In.
I'm going to be honest, a lot of those names sounded like
randomly generated players on not a, right?
I don't even look it up. Type them in.
Look it up. No outlines minefield.
We all have to. Agree on the same as.
Last year. All right, all right.
Play quiz. Let's do it.
Let's do this. Shit, this sounds great.
Is. Everybody locked in are.
You locked fucking locked in dude.
Clear eyes, full hearts. I could see sounds, I could hear
colours. They can't.
Lose. Someone say can't lose.
Yeah, yes, correct. Everyone knows the old saying.
Everyone knows that straight. Above this wait wait.
Go back to. Iran.
It's right above the street of Hormuz, right there.
Wait, go. What are you doing?
We. Were picking them.
I thought we were naming. Them.
No, he's going. No, he's the place them on the
map. Left, left, left, left, left,
left, left, left. Underneath.
The Caspian Sea. Yeah, I keep going.
What are we doing? What's the what's the prompt?
Yeah. You're good.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
It clicked. There's only 20 minutes for
this. This is crazy.
Cyprus is hanging out on the train.
And see. Yeah, There you go.
Yeah, there you go. Maldives.
I don't know. Right here.
Maldives is right there. That's Maldives.
Yeah, that's right down by Argentina.
Italy. Italy.
Yeah, famously by Argentina. Yeah, you gotta be careful with
Italy, cuz you can click on Vatican City, you know, Uruguay,
Wisov. And then you've changed Italy.
Uruguay. Yeah, he's doing a bunch of
changing. There's your damn dude in the
US, All right, go get small. Yeah, that's.
The. US correct.
Ghana's like right in. Oh, OK, never mind.
Singapore's that city state right there.
That city state, yeah, OK. Finland.
Finland, yeah. Oh, wow.
Wow, dude, K Shub's been doing this every day for a year.
They can be ready for this moment.
Never been locked. More locked in.
Look at them. OK, China.
All right, there we go. Jordan Blue Box, Blue Box from
All is right on the point. Just click here.
Right on the point. Farther.
Yeah. Way on the point, Yes, Right
there. Yeah, Don't miss that little.
Angle. I didn't want to go back to
Congo. All right, Show Pez the energy
of someone defusing a bomb right in the center of a movie.
Right in the center. Center.
Wait, don't have to do Africa. You can't get one wrong.
Yeah, dude, this is a questionable decision.
Let's just. Go and.
Get the ones. We know.
You got to get the you got. To get the borders, you know,
like you got to. Right, you don't want.
To click a little to the left, although getting Democratic
Republic of. Congo would help the.
Rest of I don't know how you approach Africa.
Turkmenistan is left of China. I was there wasn't a lot about
on this. The timer's a real fish.
Malaysia. Malaysia's just above Singapore.
Just Malaysia. No.
Click above Singapore. Yes.
The island of right above Singapore.
Yeah. The island above Singapore.
Just the island above Singapore. Yeah.
Yes. Right here.
Yes. Yes.
Nice. Nice.
OK. Don't know.
Now. Colombia is the one that.
Nailed. Oh yeah, we.
Can do Iraq, we can do Iraq. It's.
Right next to Iran. It's right by Iran.
Left of Iran, left of Iran. Yes.
There we go. Yeah.
Portugal. Portugal.
You can do it. Very edge of the peninsula.
Yeah. All right.
You got to be careful not to click too far to the right on
that one. Yeah.
UAE's on that little point. Yeah, it's next.
Let's wait. Let's wait.
One of the Solomon. Islands.
Is one of the olds over here? Yeah, Marshall and Solomon are
tough for me. Yeah, let's just keep up.
Well, now wait. There we go.
Sweden's the middle one. Yeah, Sweden's the middle one.
Sweden's the middle. 1 sword looks like he wants to blow his
brains. Well, cuz.
That's the whole rumor is that it was the owner like forcing
that pick on the on the front office and the coaching staff.
Oh, yeah, Chili's the skinny one.
Yeah, there you go. There you go.
Sure enough, Australia, we got that.
One, we got that bang. You guys like this pig?
Is this right? Yeah.
Yeah, we like that pig. That's insane.
Yeah, he does. Yeah, that's.
Insane. He's already, Yeah, the most
amount of guaranteed. Not Western Sahara.
Morocco's a little ways down, is it not?
OK, well, Western. Sahara is part of Morocco.
Apparently Netherlands is tough. About France and Germany.
Yeah, it's like near Russia, but it's not not precise to be.
It's like right up there. Yeah, you don't want.
You don't want to be. I don't.
Want to bet at all on? Estonia.
No, Exactly. Near Russia first.
No chance. Denmark.
You can click that little.
You can get Denmark, Yeah, right.
Below, there you go. That's Denmark, Yeah, that's
right. Yeah.
You gone just right in the middle of the country.
Ecuador you could get, but isn't it?
Isn't it just to the left of Venezuela?
Is that not right? I'd like to wait on that one.
That's a that's a tougher. One all.
Right, Yeah, No, Belize is Russia there We.
Go. I could've gave it Belize can
where Belize? Go back.
It's on. You gotta, you gotta.
It's so, you know, the Yucatan. It's South of Mexico, Yeah, it's
South of It's on the Caribbean side of the Yucatan.
Peninsula. I mean, it's kind of tricky.
We should probably get Mexico. We should get Mexico.
It's down here. No, no, no, it's not.
No, it's not in Central America. Yeah, OK.
It's. It's just South of Mexico,
Argentina. Click Argentina.
Down here, yeah, it's that whole area.
Yeah, all that. Yeah, you got all that.
Well, then you that's. You that's.
Uruguay, Uruguay. The fifth thing right there is
Uruguay, and then Paraguay is the next one, and then Bolivia
and then Ecuador. And then Peru is is Miami or
maybe Ecuador's on the other side of Peru.
Yeah. Peru's the long skinny. 1:00.
I could probably do the rest of South America, I think.
Norway. There you go.
Bang. You got you guys got South Korea
already, right? Ireland.
Or can you help with this? UK, France.
Perfect. Yeah, Lafia's by Estonia.
That's tough ice. It's easy.
Panama's easy. Right here.
Lower. Yeah, there.
You go. As low as you can get, the
little skinny thing. You go right here next.
The next one up is Costa Rica. Jamaica is right underneath
Cuba. That's not right.
The next. One Up's Honduras made Yes no.
That's Jamaica, the island. See the finger?
Sorry, I'm I'm talking about something.
Else, yeah, that's Jamaica. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
San Marino would be It's a city state.
San Marino, you don't. Know you can't get, never can't
be doing it which. One of those.
No, that's Vatican Vatican's. Yeah, that's San Marino.
Oh, my God. He.
Clicked he just. Went for it Vatican's in Rome
you did you did get it right, dude.
He just clipped the blue wire man and guess what put like full
and South Africa that's pull down there we go perfect.
No, we're not. We're.
No, no, no. Dominica.
It's. Not the Dominican Oh my God
show. We're going all in Dominica.
We're going all in with Dominica.
Oh no, he was feeling. His son he was.
Vigorous, much like the Cardinals on draft night,
doesn't always work out for the best.