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Hi, I'm Mike Shope, Fresh or not
so fresh, the Super Bowl felt 

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like a Chiefs game that's been 
lurking just around the corner 

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all year. 
Bad time for it, I guess. 

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Casey's loss, Philly's romp and 
what you're all here for. 

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How are things going in the big 
board trends? 

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It is, after all, ADP chasing 
with Jalen Hurts. 

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Brilliant performance. 
We'll spend some time today on 

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Elite Q BS and just what it's 
looking like in still pretty 

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early drafts with our heroes. 
Pat, Karain, Davis Maddock. 

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I'm Mike Cho, welcome to ADP 
Chasing 2/10/25. 

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ADP chasing is for When you 
watch ship chasing, you go. 

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These guys are just football 
guys and the. 

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Targets for outrun leagues, 
That's going to be really nice. 

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Actually back in if it's 
Austinet. 

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Compared to our crystal ball. 
close your eyes, you know all 

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your entries are going to lose 
anyway. 

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Yeah. 
That's fair. 

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This is a Dusvan show. 
Anti cabal. 

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It's anti the best ball thought 
leader. 

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I'm obviously lying to some 
degree because like, I have a 

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lot of both of these guys. 
It's the most disgusting thing 

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you can make, but. 
Man. 

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Pat looking good. 
Davis geared up. 

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Let's hear it. 
What have you got? 

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Kansas City. 
They got their asses kicked, 

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man, you, you can't you can't 
show up to a we have the best 22

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starters in football fight and 
not play your best football. 

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Like, had Mahomes been as good 
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that could have won. 
He wasn't. 

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And you can't run at all when 
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Pacheco. 
So there was no like, if you 

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have an OK running back, you can
like, OK, Mahomes throws the 

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pick 6 to the gene and then you 
come back and you're like, all 

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right, we're just going to get 
in the trenches. 

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We're going to run 4 plays in a 
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We're just going to get a first 
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We're going to kind of breathe. 
We're going to exhale. 

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They couldn't do it. 
And shout out, shout out to 

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Jalen Hurts. 
Great, great player. 

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There's been a lot of, lot of 
really dumb shit said about 

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Jalen Hurts, of which I 
catalogued and memorized all the

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Jalen Hurts haters. 
They're all they're all out 

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there. 
And yeah, there's a very good 

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team, very sad. 
But you can't say that. 

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It didn't feel like if there's 
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oh, it was a bad game plan or 
Andy Reid did it. 

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But no, you just, the team was 
not good enough. 

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And basically, Mahomes papered 
over the cracks for 19 games. 

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Yeah, I mean, that that dropped 
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it definitely cemented like what
what was happening, you know, it

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didn't really change anything, 
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yeah, that's that's a good 
summation of what's going on. 

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You finally get a good play and 
just awash, DeAndre Hopkins 

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can't can't secure it. 
And then I think someone on on 

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blue sky had like the actual NFL
next Gen. dots of like how, you 

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know, the expected yak on that 
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might have been Barnwell 80% 
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yak, like 20 plus yak after the 
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So yeah, I mean the one the 
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First play of the game was did 
you just misshuster first? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
First play of the game was did 

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you just misshuster? 
I mean, I feel like that that 

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effectively summarizes the seat.
I I think let's just be honest, 

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let's be really real about what 
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The Chiefs ability to win a 
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Mahomes did a nuclear bomb on 
Rashi Rice's knee. 

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There was really no way they 
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They would have been an all time
luck run out I think. 

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I don't know, I think you think 
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team. 
It's that the Eagles defense is 

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so sound. 
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And the defensive line for the 
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been curious to see how the, I 
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the Lions, but I don't know if 
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beat the Chiefs because of how 
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upfront, like to have the 
ability to sack Mahomes 

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repeatedly, like that's 
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That's a really, really 
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And then that pressure leading 
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I mean that that's really, to 
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watched. 
And the the Chiefs with on two 

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tackles in a row. 
Kingsley Suomatia. 

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That Kingsley. 
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He can't get on the field. 
He's terrible. 

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They couldn't even get last 
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Morris on the field. 
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Can't do it. 
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Juanya Morris got so bad that 
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Tooney a life. 
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then he was a guard. 
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He kind of holds up and does OK,
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You know, is there like a term 
for that, like a hit, like a 

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hitting the cycle kind of kind 
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three positions as a as a 
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That's pretty cool. 
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Basically catch a touchdown pass
as an eligible receiver in that.

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Yeah, I mean, if what if you if 
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like, you know, left guard, left
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right tackle, you know, you, you
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then you got to go D tackle. 
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though is is the way it works. 
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Justin points out. 
It's called Hall of Famer. 

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Yeah, yeah, Toonie, one of the 
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all time, I think, I mean you 
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say. 
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I guess they've not gotten a 
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each the last two drafts. 
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nickel corner last year and 
Jaden Hicks, who played a lot at

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safety for them this year. 
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talked enough about about how 
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Exploded his knee. 
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That's the technical term for 
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He exploded Rashi Rice's knee. 
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back, left of his knee. 
They, they can't even tell us 

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precisely what happened. 
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Well, it's it's here in Buffalo 
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other places. 
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they were never that good when 
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year of playoff losses, you 
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like that. 
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Did make me think differently 
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I have to say show up like. 
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is to what I just saw was the 
what I just saw was the only 

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thing that could have happened. 
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great team and they showed up. 
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like clearly they were up for 
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It's such a try hard. 
It's such an effort sport. 

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I mean, you, I liked Philly big 
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Kansas City wins the close 
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Doesn't have to be a close game.
Why can't they just be the much 

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better team up front on both 
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And they were. 
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his breakdown. 
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take the Eagles, take him by 
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That's what I did. 
That that resonated with me. 

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Yeah. 
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What we just saw, right? 
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so. 
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To 22. 
To that hit. 

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Yeah, yeah -13 1/2 was plus 500 
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thereabouts. 
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But I still find ways to not 
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this is a tough you beat, you're
right, it's you're wrong, you're

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wrong, you're wrong, you lose, 
you're wrong, you're right, and 

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you don't have like a stack. 
Yeah, you want it. 

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You want to hear something 
disgusting. 

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I was as wrong as you could get 
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I basically thought it was going
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But I did a same game parlay 
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Illinois, worthy more than 7 
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and two touchdowns. 
It was, it was like it was like 

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180 to one. 
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everything, paid for the whole 
every other bet that I lost and 

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and then some. 
Just under the. 

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Timer So you now tell me you're 
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Worthy's catching this. 
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Like he's getting there when the
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You, you, you might have you 
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the all caps. 
I thought he couldn't beat press

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coverage tweet when he scored 
the second touchdown down a 

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billion points. 
You might have noticed the the 

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the that that did not show up on
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Hey. 
Are you quietly like or you did 

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you let people know who are you 
watching with and and did you 

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let them know that this was 
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Starting so very good for you, 
Pat. 

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This is this is this is great. 
So I went to the underdog party 

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yesterday. 
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My wife was sick, so we left at 
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We're going to go watch the 
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And, you know, she just feels 
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She's getting over being sick. 
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I'm washing in the living room 
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So I'm literally telling my dog.
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like Murphy, look, we can afford
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It's literally, it's literally 
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Yeah. 
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Dog food is so bad in Davis's 
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So I had I had Go Bills over 
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Nick and Sean Dom lives out 
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here and to use Davis's word, I 
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I am winning the Deposit Kingdom
DraftKings contest until Slappy 

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with like 8 minutes left like 
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and I've got Hollywood. 
And I guess that didn't really, 

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I didn't. 
I won small. 

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Change did that? 
Did that play getting called 

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back and then nuke catching the 
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Is that what did it? 
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Yeah. 
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side of the table who was like, 
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I'm close. 
The Hopkins touchdown won him 

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the mitten, too. 
Wow. 37 fives. 

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Sean won the mitten too. 
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Damn. 
I think he chopped first, so 37 

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fives, that's all right. 
I'd like to one last little bit 

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of playoff baseball bitching, 
then we can move on. 

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Every player that I, my my five 
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winning line up, but I didn't 
get I got, I got no teams there.

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Worthy Worthy was my worthy was 
my most drafted player in the 

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entire contest. 
I, I had over 30% of worthy and 

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and got no teams there. 
Thank you. 

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I mean, huge shout out to all 
the Ladd Mcconkey drafters. 

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Huge shout out to all the Joe 
Mixon drafters. 

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Just, I really hope you guys. 
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Draft well Mahomes was the 
gauntlet was was taken down by 

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Mahomes team. 
That was me. 

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I didn't. 
That wasn't my team. 

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But remember from we talked 
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Hopkins, Yeah, Jacko Barkley but
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and the semis. 
They had Smith Devante getting 

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Devante Smith there was was key.
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Yeah. 
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Didn't have Kelsey had Worthy. 
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the exercise that we're doing 
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Did the Chiefs learn anything 
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regular season to this game? 
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Do we think we will see more 
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the field, not bringing in 90? 
Like think of the guys that were

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their skill position players, 32
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Schuster, who might as well be 
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Kelsey 34 with with the 
inexperienced guys, right? 

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So with Worthy with I guess P 
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another example. 
Just can we not have an offense 

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full of 30 year olds? 
Can we just have like a lot of 

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24 year olds? 
Well, there's kind of so I've 

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been listening to Mcshay's show 
and he's he's been referencing 

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this kind of rule of thumb that 
started to kind of materialize 

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over the last few seasons where 
it's like you get the 

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quarterback and the quarterback 
actually allows you to build out

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your defense because he's going 
to kind of hide the the holes on

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offense. 
And so, you know, now you care, 

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right? 
I think that obviously can work.

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They won two Super Bowls with 
basically that philosophy and 

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you know, they'll probably win 
another, but it's like, can we 

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also maybe get the best 
quarterbacks, some really good 

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weapons like that? 
That seems like a good formula 

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too, you know. 
So that's. 

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Not an easy fix, right? 
Not an easy. 

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If you're drafting 31st, you do 
have Word and Rice. 

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They could get Devante Adams or 
something. 

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Couldn't. 
They how much are how much they 

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could. 
How much are you going to have 

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Rice next year, though Rice will
have the combination suspension,

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injury recovery. 
I I Crane, I actually moved Rice

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down my rankings. 
I'm moving down a little bit 

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too, based on the I was like 
looking at Jeff Mueller's 

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assessment was was more bearish 
than I thought it would. 

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Be Hayden Hayden tweeted some 
stuff out too. 

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He said he looked into LCL stuff
and it's not as rosy because 

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remember when he initially like 
when Schechter sent the tweet 

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out, they were like, oh, 
actually they're. 

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This is best case. 
This is best case and it turns 

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out it's actually. 
Well, it's not even just it's 

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not just, it's not like a clean 
LCL, like his right, Andy Reid 

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said there was damage to the 
posterior lateral corner, which 

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is like where a bunch of stuff 
is and where your knee connects 

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to your hamstring. 
So it's like not even clear that

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he like only damn it. 
He didn't. 

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He was specific in saying he 
didn't damage his ACL, but it's 

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not clear that like multiple 
ligaments weren't involved. 

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And I don't know, it's just kind
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So yeah, we, we, I was thinking 
rice would be a big target, but 

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we've moved them down as well. 
Well, of course, I don't have to

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tell you guys, but playoff 
weeks, you know, by what the 

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season Worthy just had on the 
heels of the season Rice had the

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year before. 
I mean, by the end of it, you 

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loved having them. 
So I think I probably should end

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up there. 
I am preparing a nuclear level. 

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Pete wouldn't even put it in his
truth serum level take on Xavier

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Worthy. 
I don't know if I should debut 

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it right now. 
I I put it in the discord. 

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You don't know. 
You should. 

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We know, OK. 
What are we doing up this early?

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If if if Xavier Worthy 
duplicates the Rashi Rice low 

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target stuff that he had for the
final six weeks of the season 

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when the Chiefs got serious 
about winning games and scores 5

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touchdowns of a distance that he
scored in the Super Bowl last 

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night. 
You know, 30-40. 

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Fifty plus yards. 
What's the difference between 

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him and Brian Thomas Junior? 
OK. 

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What's the difference, Pat? 
Not saying that's what's going 

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to happen, but if he does the 
two things, the Rashi rice roll 

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plus the deep shot targets. 
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think the 

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difference is that I don't 
believe in his ability to 

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consistently deliver the Rashi 
rice underneath stuff. 

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So I I think the difference is 
that it's you're kind of living 

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and dying by the weeks where he 
has those those spike week 

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touchdown weeks. 
And then you're when he does now

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he has a seal like a real 
ceiling because some players 

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it's like, oh, they're spike 
week players because they'll 

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score a long touchdown, but 
that's like the only thing they 

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do in that game. 
And so that's not really doesn't

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even do that much. 
But when he scores a touchdown, 

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he'll be paired with some other 
catches. 

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If if he's going 4 for 46 on the
Rashi Rice stuff and then mixes 

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in 5 deep touchdowns in a 
season, then you're looking at 

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like 1200 scrimmage yards, 9 
touchdowns, which is like Brian 

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Thomas junior. 
Brian Thomas junior last year, 

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but maybe not what he does in 
his follow up campaign. 

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I see what you're saying. 
I'm not. 

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I mean, I'm not. 
Obviously Brian Thomas junior, I

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think a better player and the 
the the good friends in my chat,

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in the chat who I do like. 
You guys are, you guys are. 

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Anxious. 
Good. 

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You, you guys, you guys are, you
guys are annoying. 

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I just like, I know the Chiefs 
got blown out. 

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I know. 
They think. 

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Savior worthy is a. 
Very big difference. 

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Probably skill, Brett. 
He's a very good player. 

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He really is. 
About 50 lbs. 

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Another difference people point 
out. 

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I know I was on the clock. 
You didn't. 

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Have it, OK. 
I mean, I if he, if he 

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consolidated the two roles, it's
hard to say he doesn't have a 

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ceiling. 
I mean, they could have a huge 

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ceiling. 
Yep, on the clock last night 

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with the guys playing poker and 
I was up in the fourth round 

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maybe. 
What should I do here? 

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Then you get the bomb right 
there. 

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Happened but but last touchdown 
to worthy. 

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Like I think Nick said, why 
don't you just take him? 

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So that seemed like good advice 
from a two time main event 

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champion. 
That's what we did. 

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We want that I've. 
Already taken him three times 

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today so. 
I'm gonna start drafting more of

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them. 
I mean, that was nice. 

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You're like, why don't you do 
that? 

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That seems like a good. 
Thing, Yeah, why don't you guys 

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just run that play more often? 
Yeah, it'll come down to whether

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they need it. 
I mean, they didn't ever need 

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it. 
You have this in fantasy all the

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time. 
Minnesota's defense gets good 

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and Justin Jefferson is kept. 
If they don't need it, what they

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need is the division to get 
better. 

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Maybe an injury adversity will 
bring that on. 

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They never needed to do it until
I guess last night when they 

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were down 40 to 6:00. 
So it. 

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Is tough though, like where 
because they won all these one 

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score games, you're like, oh, 
they don't need it. 

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They can always just win a nail 
biter. 

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It's like, you know, nail biters
don't always go nails out. 

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Yeah, we know my nails out. 
Yeah, you don't. 

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What if you tried? 
Because I think part of the what

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happened last night is like they
they went in with a nail biter 

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game plan and came out, came out
and it's like the Eagle's like 

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this is not going to be a nail 
biter, bro. 

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Yes. 
And what else you got? 

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Yep. 
You know, and they didn't have 

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it. 
And then, like on the fly, like 

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in game, they're like, oh, we 
could try this. 

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What about this? 
They didn't have they. 

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They hadn't practiced basically 
trying to score a bajillion 

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points. 
Yeah. 

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They had they had not practiced 
being down. 

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But but you have Mahomes and and
you know, the fastest wide 

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receiver ever. 
Like it seems like maybe you 

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like they spent all season 
digging around. 

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Why didn't they? 
Why weren't they? 

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If you're going to Dick around 
and not like try super hard, why

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isn't that including like deep 
bombs? 

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Like why would not trying super 
hard also include like Mahomes 

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throwing some more 
interceptions? 

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Because he's trying to work out?
I guess they did in defense. 

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Now I'm all worked up. 
Well, they actually did do some 

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of. 
This and worthy was never near. 

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The ball I want to point out, I 
want. 

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To point out something. 
He missed them, yeah. 

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Biggest sign to me that 
basically this was all held 

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together by fucking paper clips.
And it's actually a miracle they

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even got here. 
The fourth and four they went 

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for. 
You've seen Mahomes convert that

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play billion times. 
Wide receiver runs the out easy 

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completion. 
Bang, Pat throws it a smidgen 

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late and a smidgen soft because 
he doesn't trust Hopkins just 

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doesn't trust him to win, 
doesn't he? 

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And so, so he's like God, I know
I have. 

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To throw this a classic, That's 
fair. 

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Yeah, You know, yeah, absolutely
classic. 

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That's fair. 
But like, if you've got a 

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quarterback out there who 
doesn't trust his guy, there's 

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gonna be there's gonna be a ton 
of. 

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Mistakes, you know, and and. 
That was just brutal. 

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Good point. 
And let's, let's bring Kelsey in

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too, because Kelsey was always 
the guy that he had in an 

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emergency. 
Yeah. 

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And that ended. 
So I I don't blame Mahomes 

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entirely for not trusting his 
other options because he lost 

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his best. 
In real time. 

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Yeah, it is now. 
Well, you're you're calling your

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your boy Mahomes, Pat, which, 
you know, I respect. 

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Did it bother you at all that 
Tom Brady's on the broadcast 

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never once sang Mahomes the 
entire time? 

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It's Patrick. 
Patrick, Patrick all night. 

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Did that get under your skin? 
It got under mine. 

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What got under my skin was that 
it's Tom Brady who's like the 

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the, the shadow hanging over 
this whole because let's just be

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real about it. 
No one calls him Patrick. 

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No one calls him Patrick. 
Everyone calls him Mahomes. 

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You too good the Chiefs. 
Well, I'm making a different 

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point. 
But you are right that that's I 

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didn't realize that that was 
annoying until right now. 

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But yes, the Chiefs are playing 
that game against the Eagles, 

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but they're also playing this 
larger legacy game of like where

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Mahomes is going to sit in the 
pantheon and and Brady, you can 

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just tell he's just like, yeah, 
this mother, this motherfucker 

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ain't never getting nowhere near
me. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
No, this is this is the energy. 

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Typically you don't call your 
son by their last name. 

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That was the energy, man. 
I did not appreciate it. 

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He all he needed to do was use 
his middle name like your your 

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dad does when he's mad at you. 
Michael Alexander, get over here

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right now. 
Like it still haunts me to hear 

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that. 
Yeah, maybe it also because my 

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name is Patrick. 
I also felt it more of like 

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you're you're I know what you're
doing. 

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I know what you're doing, Tom. 
Imagine if someone just got on a

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broadcast and just just called 
said Tom and never said the word

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Brady once. 
We would notice. 

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Well, watch the Ravens. 
And and and so would TomTom 

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would take notice of that. 
You know that is funny because 

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they always call. 
They never call him Jackson. 

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It's always. 
Lamar, when I Lamar when I came 

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up in, in newspapers, which is, 
I don't know if you guys know 

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what those are, but an editor 
told me we had Bruce Smith and 

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we always wanted to put hang on.
We always wanted to put Bruce in

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the headline. 
But she's like, there's a racial

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element to it because black 
players will frequently just be 

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called by their first name and 
white players by their last 

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name. 
And I mean, it's not always the 

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case, but it's always what I 
think about South on my show. 

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I always call him Jackson 
because that lesson has still 

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stayed with me. 
That's so interesting because 

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it's so true. 
Josh is Josh Allen is always 

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Josh Allen. 
It's never Josh. 

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It's never Allen. 
It's always Josh Allen. 

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Lamar is always Lamar. 
Always, Lamar. 

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And Mahomes is always Mahomes. 
Well, yeah, Hertz is usually 

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hurts hurts. 
You don't get a lot of jailing. 

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I call him Jalen because I've 
been rooting for him since he 

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was 19, but. 
But part yeah, part of it is how

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cuz, cuz like like Liam will 
call Josh Allen Josh, right, 

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Like you do get some Josh. 
It's. 

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All my friends. 
Do it's? 

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Proximity to how much? 
Proximity. 

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Some of it's proximity, yeah, 
but there's. 

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But when there isn't proximity, 
that's when it's interesting. 

449
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,840
What what what is used more when
it's. 

450
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,000
And Tom can pretend that it's 
because he's best buds with 

451
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,120
Patrick, but it's not. 
Why? 

452
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,440
If not, why? 
Yeah. 

453
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,640
Anyway, we'll talk some 
quarterbacks here. 

454
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:07,040
Jaden Daniels ended up on the 
winning FFPC Best ball team. 

455
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,040
How how, how good a play was 
that? 

456
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:15,920
I mean, it won. 
I think it was very clairvoyant 

457
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,480
and I only say that because I 
almost won the NFFC post season 

458
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,440
holdem using a 3X Jaden Daniels 
multiplier. 

459
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,960
But one of the mistakes I made 
in playoff baseball was treating

460
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,640
these coin flip games like 
certainties, like the Vikings 

461
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,120
game and the Buccaneers game 
just going Oh well, the 

462
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:39,520
favourites are just winning. 
You probably run pretty hot 

463
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,560
though. 
Not getting Jalen Hurst though, 

464
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,160
like you, you I think I think 
winning with Jay and Daniels. 

465
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,720
You run pretty hot. 
You they they could have gotten 

466
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,360
Jalen Hurst last night very 
easily. 

467
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,120
But Barkley had done so well. 
You wanted them still. 

468
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,920
Yeah, I think that they so we 
played some Jayden Daniels teams

469
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:05,000
on on the FFPC stuff. 
And the issue that we ran into 

470
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,200
is that we went too crazy on the
AFC side where we're like, oh, 

471
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,240
we need Jackson to lose into. 
We need Alan to lose in into, 

472
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760
right. 
We need the we need the Chiefs. 

473
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,360
But it would be even better if 
the Chiefs lost as well. 

474
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,040
So like we we had we had them 
paired with not enough chalk on 

475
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:28,280
the AFC side because we were 
thinking that we're betting on 

476
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,080
Daniels to be optimal in two 
games, not 3. 

477
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:37,200
And that's where I think if you 
played Daniels now, I would be 

478
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,440
curious on truth serum to to 
hear, do you do you think they 

479
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,280
were live for three? 
Is that why you built this team?

480
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,360
But it's, I mean, if you did, 
then playing it chalkier on the 

481
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,920
AFC side is really sharp 
because. 

482
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,240
Well, you. 
Know Daniels is going to score a

483
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,720
ton of points and be the guy 
that you want on the Commanders.

484
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,960
And it was you on our, you know,
a few weeks ago before the 

485
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,960
playoffs started shows, oh, you 
know, I got to get more 

486
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,880
Washington. 
Yeah. 

487
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,920
And so Daniels and and tight end
was interesting to your last 

488
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,280
point. 
So what are you doing there, 

489
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,320
Kelsey? 
By defaults or Andrews like 

490
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,640
Hawkinson was, was the tight end
on the winning FFPC team with 

491
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,840
Daniels. 
So the the problem with tight 

492
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,000
end was we don't really like 
anybody right. 

493
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,280
And so Daniels, which meant no 
hurts obviously either. 

494
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,720
And Hawkinson, one game wasn't 
even anything, ends up on the 

495
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:33,560
winning team. 
Yeah, the chat's still on the on

496
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,160
the name thing. 
It's definitely not what's ever 

497
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,960
easiest to say it there. 
There are. 

498
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,320
There is a racial component that
I've never thought about, but 

499
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,960
it's very accurate. 
For me, it's always a proximity 

500
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,720
to how much I like them. 
If I, if I really, if I, if I 

501
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,160
really like them, then they're 
it. 

502
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,000
Is also a uniqueness of the 
first name, which kind of has a 

503
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,840
racial component as well, 
because some of them are not so 

504
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,080
much unique, you know, if they 
sound, it's more unique if 

505
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,960
you're white because you're 
like, I'm not as familiar with 

506
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,640
this name, but you're but you 
know, Saquon is Saquon. 

507
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,880
Everyone knows who you mean when
you say Saquon. 

508
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,520
So you can say Saquon, right? 
They also know what you mean 

509
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,120
when you say Barkley. 
But that's right. 

510
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,960
They do know what? 
You mean that's my Barkley? 

511
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,200
That's too, yeah. 
Always the last name as a matter

512
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,560
of right. 
Yeah, always the last name. 

513
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,560
Right. 
But I mean like Lamar, everyone 

514
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,040
knows who you mean when you say 
Lamar. 

515
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,720
So I think that's part of it as 
well. 

516
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,640
But yeah, it doesn't. 
Is there something to think? 

517
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,160
About Tangle the Knot, Yeah, 
yeah. 

518
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,560
Matt Barkley. 
Charles Barkley. 

519
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,280
We're trying to just being very 
specific. 

520
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,520
What if they think you mean 
Charles Barkley? 

521
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,600
Oh, another great point from 
Michael. 

522
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,920
Great players achieve single 
name status like if you're. 

523
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,320
Really. 
That's true as well. 

524
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,280
That's true as well, yeah. 
Or you know. 

525
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,160
Or LeBron. 
MJMJ was, you know, less 

526
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,720
Michael. 
I guess I'd have to say I would 

527
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,040
use LeBron. 
I'm not usually calling him 

528
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,960
James. 
Yeah, LeBron, I would have to 

529
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,040
say that. 
Genti, no one says no one says 

530
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,720
Ashton Genti. 
They just say Genti. 

531
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,080
Travis Hunter though you a lot 
of people will say both names 

532
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,000
for Travis Hunter. 
Not Travis. 

533
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,400
Not Hunter. 
Travis Hunter. 

534
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,520
Dion, that's annoying. 
Dion's A1 namer. 

535
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,160
That's annoying too when they do
that. 

536
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,360
The full name. 
Some guys are full name always. 

537
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,720
Josh Allen is always full name. 
That's your. 

538
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,760
Guy. 
Yeah, he's always full name. 

539
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,880
He's always full name. 
Can be. 

540
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,800
Ashton feels white to me. 
The racial component comes back.

541
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,760
The racial component comes back.
That's why it's not shinty. 

542
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaking of Alan or Josh Allen, 
if you prefer elite Q BS so far 

543
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:37,280
in underdog drafts, we've got 
we've got graphics, yeah. 

544
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Yes, we do. 
About that, let's pull those up.

545
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,920
Let's pull those up. 
This is not my work, Zach. 

546
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,920
This is do this for us. 
Zach, I don't want to say it 

547
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,400
wrong. 
Zach Landers. 

548
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:50,840
Zach OK, so I have been saying 
it right. 

549
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,680
Zach Landers, this is our great 
graphics guy here. 

550
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,000
He just, no, no, he just told us
on the lanars is how you say his

551
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,880
last. 
Oh, Nars. 

552
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,040
Oh, I missed that. 
Well, I woke up right before the

553
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,920
show so I don't know. 
All right, there we go. 

554
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,840
It's Lanars. 
Yes, keep still talking names, 

555
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:10,360
but anyway, this is good. 
So we've got the last three BBMS

556
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,280
and then what's happening so far
in big board. 

557
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,680
Thoughts here I'm not inclined 
to be taking. 

558
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,120
It's it's crazy, Mike. 
I, I just and I look, I don't 

559
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:29,480
want to show up with no Josh 
Allen, no Lamar, no Jayden 

560
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,240
Daniels in the end, no Jaylen 
Hurts, but it's crazy, dude. 

561
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,400
If you want Joe Burrow a pass 
only quarterback, you got to 

562
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,960
take him in a top 50 pick. 
I mean, I'm sorry dude. 

563
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840
I've done the Joe Burrow in the 
fifth round experience before. 

564
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,080
It was one of the worst bets at 
the time and it played out like 

565
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,960
it was one of the worst bets. 
And now we're just immediately 

566
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,000
memory wiping and we're just 
doing it again. 

567
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,680
Why? 
Yeah, ADP late 4th. 

568
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,000
On who? 
On. 

569
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,800
Burrow. 
On Burrow, Yeah, yeah, it's, 

570
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,320
he's the Stroud, right? 
He's this your Stroud. 

571
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,200
He's. 
The Stroud, we just did this 

572
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,080
with CD Shroud. 
We just did this with Mahomes 

573
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,400
for for these pass only guys, 
they have to go so nuclear and 

574
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,120
they have to go nuclear in the 
right weeks. 

575
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,920
And you have to hope the 
defenses don't get any better, 

576
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,680
right? 
Imagine if the Bengals defense 

577
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,960
is league average this year and 
you just, you just wasted all 

578
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,440
that time. 
And and the stack component is 

579
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,600
why the Burrow thing happens 
because Chase has won the 4-5 

580
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,040
turn. 
You're like, oh, well, Burrow's 

581
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,880
not going to come back around. 
So I'm just going to take him 

582
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,200
here. 
But my whole philosophy on the 

583
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,560
early quarterbacks right now is 
the two V twos favor the late 

584
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,200
quarterbacks by about a billion 
percent favorability because 

585
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,240
your because your two V2. 
Is not late round right? 

586
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,120
Like kind of mid mid window 
rounds rounds. 8 through 11 yeah

587
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,320
window. 
Yeah. 

588
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,440
Your your two V2 is, I don't 
know, let's call it James Cook 

589
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:10,640
and Kyler Murray or Josh Allen 
and Jalen Ward or whatever or 

590
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,560
Jalen, Jalen Watson, Jalen 
Watson, Jalen Warren. 

591
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,720
My God, dude, my. 
Brain. 

592
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,000
Yeah. 
Who's Jalen Watson? 

593
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,680
Jalen Watson? 
I was. 

594
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,360
I was hoping you'd go Pacheco 
there because. 

595
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:25,200
Or or Pacheco sure. 
I mean the two V2 is insanely 

596
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,320
balanced towards the later 
quarterback. 

597
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,720
Yeah, it's it. 
It doesn't make a lot of sense 

598
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,920
to me, especially on the 
borough. 

599
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,640
I don't think Burrows like even 
very draftable right now. 

600
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,720
Like you have to have, you have 
to have them stacked with chase 

601
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,320
and then it's like you kind of 
like, all right, like I got I'm 

602
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,360
going to mix this in. 
I don't want to not have any 

603
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Burrow chase because obviously 
it's easy to see that they're 

604
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,920
they're it's like a DFS line up.
Blankets. 

605
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,480
Right, but it's like a DFS 
lineup where you're like, man, 

606
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,280
like you can, even though this 
is not my favorite way to play 

607
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,320
it, you could easily see this 
hitting. 

608
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,080
So if you're making a ton of 
lineups, maybe you mix it in, 

609
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:09,320
but the quarterbacks that are 
going in around pick 100 include

610
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,880
guys with like very high single 
week ceilings like Kyler Murray.

611
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,280
You know, like I I don't really 
get why. 

612
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,120
Dak Prescott was the QB one or 
QB 2 two years ago. 

613
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,920
Yeah. 
Not even in like distant memory 

614
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:30,880
like it just happened. 
We will get to some of these 

615
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,160
names. 
I just got to call my mom and 

616
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,520
we're done. 
To tell her that I made it as 

617
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,640
the host of this show long 
enough to hear an exposure 

618
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,960
blanket reference, so that 
that'll be a proud fan. 

619
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Family moment, we'll be proud. 
Our next slide is the elite QB, 

620
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,200
so we can see these top four and
talk about like sort of where 

621
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,440
they stand as we go here. 
Prescott is a name I wrote down 

622
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,400
because he was obviously not in 
the top 12 this year being hurt 

623
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,120
and seems mostly forgotten 
about. 

624
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,640
Yeah. 
So obviously I want all these 

625
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,080
guys like I would, I would love 
if you could just be like, all 

626
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,840
right, man, I get to, I get to 
just just keep drafting the guys

627
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,000
who are going to score all the 
points. 

628
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,960
But we also, I mean, Karine, we 
see this every year in fantasy 

629
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,840
football, particularly in the 
games we play these these guys, 

630
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,120
like two of these guys on the 
screen will be great advance 

631
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,760
rate plays because they're just 
going to smash and they're going

632
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,600
to be stacked and they're going 
to like, it'll be, I don't know,

633
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,280
let's call it Lamar and Andrews.
They but they're just like Lamar

634
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,720
scores like 24 points a game, 
Andrews scores 10 touchdowns. 

635
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,720
Smash Jane Daniels and Hertz, 
Hertz and Devonta Smith, 

636
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,640
whatever it might be, they gig a
smash. 

637
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,000
And then you get to the playoff 
weeks. 

638
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,400
Hertz has one week 18, one week 
of 31 and one week of 22. 

639
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,920
And someone who got there with a
Cam Ward stack where he scores 5

640
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,320
touchdowns in a game, that 
doesn't matter at all. 

641
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,800
It just quarterback scoring is 
so flat. 

642
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,200
The bands are so tight. 
It's between like 18 and 30 

643
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,160
points. 
You are just creating such a 

644
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,280
small gap in the post season 
weeks, not in the regular 

645
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,600
season. 
Jalen Hertz could score what, 

646
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,200
100 more points in the 
quarterback, 12 maybe or or 80 

647
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,680
more points in the quarterback 
12. 

648
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,280
But in the post, in the, in the 
post season, the weeks that we 

649
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,200
really care about, those bands 
just get tighter. 

650
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,200
And, and I'm not saying they're 
bad picks. 

651
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,280
I'm just saying from a 
perspective of what are my teams

652
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,640
going to do in the playoffs? 
We've been doing this six years 

653
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,960
every year. 
We, we, we literally anecdotally

654
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,400
have seen the thesis play out 
where a cheap quarterback is 

655
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,280
always. 
Yeah, and like, you know, 

656
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Daniels goes from, you know, 
he's a he's got some, I mean, he

657
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,400
got better and better as the 
season went on. 

658
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,880
But during the fantasy season, 
he's not a perfect quarterback 

659
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,240
and he's a rookie quarterback. 
He's he's making mistakes. 

660
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,480
He's busting in weeks. 
We think he's going to play 

661
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,240
really well. 
He's really exciting other 

662
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:06,680
weeks, but he runs and we got 
him around pick 100 and you 

663
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,800
know, we got a comment. 
Or are you still doing the Kyler

664
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,120
equals elite quarterback 
gimmick? 

665
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,120
Clearly we're not doing that 
gimmick because he's going 

666
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,679
around pick 100. 
He's quarterback 13. 

667
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,480
So you're getting but but he 
does run. 

668
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,760
He does have good receivers, you
know, and he has the ability to 

669
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,520
put up really high point totals 
in a single week the same way a 

670
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,280
pocket passer does, even though 
he he gets there a little bit 

671
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,400
more with his legs as well. 
And you've got you've got DAC 

672
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,840
going super cheap. 
You have Trevor Lawrence, who 

673
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,520
you know, has never put it 
together, but but is an 

674
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,040
aggressive passer and now gets a
big, you know, head coach 

675
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,120
upgrade and has an elite 
downfield weapon. 

676
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,960
Jordan Love if they if they're 
leaning into the past more, he 

677
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,360
could certainly pop off and was 
on the winning lineup the the 

678
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,160
year before, you know, at a 
cheaper price, but not a ton 

679
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,120
cheaper and you've got the Rook,
you've got Bo Nicks, you've got 

680
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,240
Drake may going in the second 
year. 

681
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:06,240
You got Caleb still very. 
Cheap like the Knicks, price is 

682
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,520
brutal to. 
Me, it is that one I don't love 

683
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,760
because he's the most expensive 
of these guys, but I wonder if 

684
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,360
that. 
Next slide. 

685
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:19,160
Charlie is making a quite good 
point though, which is that the 

686
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,640
quarterback position is very 
unsettled right now. 

687
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,960
Like more unsettled than I think
we're even thinking. 

688
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,360
Like the first domino just fell 
yesterday, Aaron Rodgers not 

689
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,560
coming back to The Jets. 
So that is a pretty big domino. 

690
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,160
And I think I am making a 
tactical mistake right now where

691
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480
a bunch of my teams are the same
thing. 

692
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,080
I take one of the quarterbacks 
in the window, you know, A, 

693
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,080
who's the quarterback? 
10A Baker, Mayfield A. 

694
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,440
Jared Mayfield. 
And I take one of the guys in 

695
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,640
the second tier. 
I take a Lawrence or Richardson.

696
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:59,960
Then I take a Dart, Carr, 
Cousins, Gino fields. 

697
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,800
Yeah, I'm I'm trying to I'm 
trying to grab two to three in 

698
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,880
the window. 
So I'm doing like I'm reaching 

699
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,680
on the first one. 
I'm reaching on a Baker, 

700
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,720
stacking him up with Evans or 
whatever. 

701
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,640
Then I'm getting a Brock Purdy, 
right. 

702
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,400
And then I'm getting a Drake May
and I'm calling it a day that 

703
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,040
and, and I'm to me, I'm like, 
I'm coming out of that 

704
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,480
quarterback room where I'm 
going. 

705
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,480
The opportunity cost is really 
not that high. 

706
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,600
You know, my last quarterback I 
took around 1:20 or around 115. 

707
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,360
Baker, I took in the 80s, but 
wide receiver starting to dry up

708
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,840
a little bit. 
I have some running backs early.

709
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,880
I've got some receivers like 
I've, I feel very strong a 

710
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,880
quarterback when I, when I do 
that, like just as strong as 

711
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,480
someone who's got a, a Jalen 
Hurts or, or Josh Allen or 

712
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,200
something because of my ability 
to show up to the final right. 

713
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,480
And I've got 3 outs at a spike 
week. 

714
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,360
Whereas when you draft the Josh 
Allen team because of the 

715
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,520
capital that you put into it, 
you're not taking that second 

716
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,120
quarterback probably till 
reasonably late. 

717
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,840
I mean, you could certainly get 
like a, you know, Brock Purdy or

718
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,520
something that wouldn't be like 
overspending, but it's just like

719
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,920
a little bit. 
I do like having the three outs 

720
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,560
to the to the spike weeks. 
Like if now the tricky part with

721
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,440
the big board is it's difficult 
to stack. 

722
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,840
So you might show up with like 
three single stacks and like, 

723
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,960
I'd rather just have Josh Allen,
you know? 

724
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,440
Which, yeah, his, his stack 
could be a lot of different 

725
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,560
possibilities at this point. 
I mean, Jackson, you know, you 

726
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200
have Flowers, Mahomes and 
Worthy, etcetera. 

727
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,040
But with Hertz, of course, and 
his guys, but Allen still like 

728
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,280
there's questions about who he's
throwing to. 

729
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,560
For sure, yeah. 
You could luck into that stack, 

730
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,920
yeah. 
Yeah, the comment here is that 

731
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,480
we act like Kyler can mass 
accumulative scoring spike 

732
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,280
weeks. 
Yeah, I don't know that this is 

733
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,320
like this is like any other year
with Kyler, to be honest. 

734
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,560
Like he's he's always been much 
more expensive than this. 

735
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,600
He's like six seventh round pick
and now, you know, he's outside 

736
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,760
the top 100. 
So I I do think it's different 

737
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,680
actually. 
He's on the next slide if you 

738
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,160
want to show him. 
When a guy falls this late, like

739
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,480
we're at, the scoring profile 
that you're banking on is a 

740
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,680
little different. 
It's more like a Jared Goffin, a

741
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,360
Brock Purdy where you're like, 
you're not asking, you're not 

742
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,720
looking necessarily to find like
the cheaper version of anything.

743
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:18,600
You're looking to find a guy who
mixes in with other guys. 

744
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,080
You're kind of to three 
quarterback builds is what I'm 

745
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,960
saying. 
You know, you're getting a, 

746
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,960
you're getting a guy who can go 
off for a week and then 

747
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,800
absolutely crap to bed another 
week and and that's it. 

748
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,480
But your team is built to live 
with that. 

749
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,680
I like that too. 
A name we haven't mentioned. 

750
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,000
We've mentioned a lot of names 
here is the one guy I think is 

751
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,400
definitely too cheap is Donald. 
I mean he is going to start for 

752
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,400
somebody. 
If it's not Minnesota, he's 

753
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,760
going to start for somebody. 
And you know, we've seen that 

754
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,320
there could be a real upside 
there. 

755
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,600
He's quarterback. 
I don't know. 

756
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,680
I looked earlier, 232720 
quarterback 27 Darnold. 

757
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:56,920
So Darnold. 
So OK, another reason I like 

758
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,920
Kyler, right? 
And I like Purdy. 

759
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,720
And I like Goth. 
And I like Caleb Williams, 

760
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,200
right. 
And obviously Nick's Mayfield, 

761
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,760
Nick says, I, I agree with the 
chat is, is a bit overpriced, 

762
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,720
but you know, you're what, 
you're still in this period of 

763
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:14,080
guys and two of the next three 
guys here, Stroud and Dak 

764
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,800
Prescott, job security is not an
issue whatsoever. 

765
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,000
But when you as I'm starting to 
go further into the window, I am

766
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,160
thinking about what are the odds
that this guy gets benched by 

767
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,080
the end of the season. 
And I, I really like that we can

768
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:34,160
take a Caleb Williams at at 101 
and you get the upside of him in

769
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,680
year 2 with Ben Johnson and 
there's zero risk about what his

770
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,680
last year around this time, 
Justin Fields was going around 

771
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,480
pick 100, you know, Justin. 
Fields was going. 

772
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,080
Higher, Sure, maybe you can 
hire. 

773
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,720
Yeah. 
So you do at round this time. 

774
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,800
You got to why? 
What is creating the discount? 

775
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,080
And for me, you know, I think 
Richardson is still a bit 

776
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,640
overpriced because this dude 
could easily not be starting by 

777
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,080
the end of the year. 
And Darnold. 

778
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,400
So Darnold I think is tough 
because if he stays with the 

779
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,480
Vikings, he's probably not 
starting by the end of the year 

780
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,160
from McCarthy. 
And then if he goes somewhere 

781
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,480
else, he doesn't have O'Connell 
and he could easily turn back 

782
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,360
into a pumpkin. 
And then, you know, maybe that 

783
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,240
team starting Jackson Dart by 
the end of the year or whatever.

784
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,640
Maybe if. 
Jackson If Jackson Dart is 

785
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,440
starting the final eight games 
of the season, I will be winning

786
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,960
the big board so. 
I feel, I'm feeling, I'm feeling

787
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,280
Davis is winning all the money. 
Let me, let me tell you, let me 

788
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,280
tell you the biggest edge right 
now. 

789
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,760
It's got to be, it's got to be 
Richardson. 

790
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,160
Because if Richardson plays, and
I'm not saying this is the most 

791
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,800
likely thing, but if he finds a 
way to get serious and, you 

792
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,920
know, pay attention to the 
playbook and work on his 

793
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,040
conditioning and, and, and all 
that shit, I mean, 17 games of 

794
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,600
this guy is going to go silly. 
Now, obviously the reason why 

795
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,880
he's the quarterback 21 is the 
market certainly does not 

796
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,360
believe that is going to happen.
Famously, Adam Schefter tweeted 

797
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,400
out the the graphic for the 
Colts playing in Berlin and 

798
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Anthony Richardson was not on 
the graphic. 

799
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,120
The the the primary guy on the 
graphic was an offensive 

800
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,440
lineman. 
So that's a real, a real wind 

801
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,120
Horse situation. 
I think they at minimum they are

802
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,680
going to bring in competition 
for him. 

803
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,280
Now, I don't know if that's 
going to be in the draft. 

804
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,520
I don't know if that's going to 
be. 

805
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,600
It could be Justin Fields. 
Dude, if Justin Fields goes 

806
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,360
there then. 
If he goes there, I will not be 

807
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,480
winning the big board because 
that will have been validated. 

808
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,480
About half my teams already 
drafted that where where I'm 

809
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,920
only eligible to get one 
quarterback score per week and 

810
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,960
it's on the Indianapolis Colts. 
So that is not particularly 

811
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,600
great. 
But I since Anthony Richardson 

812
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,080
has been in college, I've 
thought that he is better than 

813
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,200
the market thinks. 
I didn't love the price last 

814
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:58,800
year, but he I think guys with 
his physical tools just get more

815
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,360
chances than we even think. 
Like if I don't know, I'm trying

816
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,560
to think of a comparable 
quarterback prospect who is less

817
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,920
athletic. 
I I don't will Levis. 

818
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,760
So let's say if Levis, but no, 
I'm saying if Levis got the 

819
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,040
personality things that were 
coming out about Richardson. 

820
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,880
Oh, he doesn't study. 
The team mates are saying he's 

821
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,880
letting him down. 
Not only would he not be counted

822
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,080
on as a starting quarterback, 
they might have just caught him.

823
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:25,480
They might have just said you 
are not worth the headache, you 

824
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,760
are out of the building. 
But these guys who are around 

825
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,960
Trey Lance actually is probably 
the best comp where they just 

826
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,680
gave up, right? 
They just said, they just said 

827
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,080
we're done. 
And Lance, for as good as he was

828
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,840
as a rusher and as intriguing as
the tools, were not even in the 

829
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,480
stratosphere of Richardson in 
terms of physical talent. 

830
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,760
Like actually not. 
And Richardson is honestly a 

831
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,480
much better passer, right? 
Like Richardson has some 

832
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200
beautiful throws. 
He's just erratic as hell. 

833
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,320
Erratic, right? 
You cannot count on him. 

834
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,560
But but like Lance looks like 
he's throwing a baseball or 

835
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,000
something like it's it's the 
motion super weird. 

836
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,080
It never he can put a ball on a 
rope, but it's like not 

837
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,720
Richardson has deep balls where 
you're like, Oh my God. 

838
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,840
So it yeah, but. 
It's a tough, it's a tough 

839
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,200
question. 
We've we've debated it before 

840
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,280
who the right guy is for that 
competition in Indianapolis. 

841
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,200
It's got it's not going to be 
fields stylistically. 

842
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,680
Fields. 
I think it's fields. 

843
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,880
I think he's in Pittsburgh. 
If he's not, I mean I feel like 

844
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,000
they're too similar. 
No, I, I agree with you, Mike, 

845
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,200
that it's not going to be Fields
because I think he's going to be

846
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,480
in Pittsburgh. 
But Dalton? 

847
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,480
Is one name Dalton? 
But doesn't it make sense to 

848
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,360
have a like for like so you 
don't have to change the offense

849
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,520
every week if you are, if you 
are like, like, oh, we don't 

850
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,440
really believe in Richardson. 
Auntie Richardson Short actually

851
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,120
on Madden is 54. 
Was D back here. 

852
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,760
She is 85. 
Dude, Madden gets it with the 

853
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,080
throw power of 99. 
That's John. 

854
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,200
John D Podesta. 
D Podesta. 

855
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,120
I don't think his first name is 
John, but the Ravens. 

856
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,560
The Ravens guy Eric D Podesta 
just said they the. 

857
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,720
Car used. 
That's not the name either. 

858
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,400
De Carlo. 
That's not it. 

859
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,240
Sorry. 
All right. 

860
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,920
The Ravens. 
GI Decosta. 

861
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,800
Decosta, yeah. 
Decosta, Eric. 

862
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,320
It's Eric Decosta. 
Eric Decosta. 

863
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,440
All right, so. 
I think Davis, you went 

864
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,120
moneyball there. 
You went Moneyball there. 

865
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,320
I, I messed up. 
I that's, that's why I was doing

866
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,560
that. 
I mean they said they use MAD 

867
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,120
rankings in their evaluation. 
They did. 

868
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,160
Yeah, they did. 
The, the thing with Richardson 

869
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,560
for me is that, so I've been a, 
I've been more in on Richardson 

870
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,400
the market every year so far. 
But part of it is like guys, his

871
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,000
dude's about to get drafted 4th 
overall. 

872
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,200
Like he's playing, he's going to
play a lot. 

873
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,600
Like they're not going to bench 
him unless he's terrible. 

874
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,600
You know, you get, it's the bet 
is tilted to the upside. 

875
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,240
It's a risk. 
It's a it's a risky bet, right? 

876
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:51,120
It feels it's an uncertain bet 
where the market is taking too 

877
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040
cautious of an approach because 
it's of the high uncertainty and

878
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,640
not realizing that there's a ton
of upside here. 

879
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,240
That's been my position. 
What do you win when you win 

880
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,520
with Richardson is you might get
the quarterback one. 

881
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:02,440
Yeah, right. 
Exactly. 

882
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,400
But now this is starting to feel
like kind of a classic 

883
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,400
traditional fantasy football. 
Two years ago. 

884
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,280
No, Lance. 
Two years ago, Remember, we did 

885
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,400
this. 
We did this. 

886
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,360
Right. 
We did this. 

887
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,040
Yeah, it's season. 
It's season long versus best 

888
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,320
ball to me. 
And some like if you want to say

889
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,000
I'm taking Anthony Richardson at
1:40 because this dude might be 

890
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,080
an absolute smash at quarterback
and what, So what if he only 

891
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,560
gives me 3 or 4 weeks? 
Like I'm I'm going to know when 

892
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,240
to start them right. 
And he's he's just like way 

893
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:35,800
better than any other 
quarterback can get at this 

894
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,240
price. 
I'm going to take this discount 

895
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,680
and use it in season long. 
I think that makes a ton of 

896
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,320
sense in best ball, the zero 
that you're locking in. 

897
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,360
If he gets benched down the 
stretch, you show up to the 

898
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,640
final, you only have 1-2 shots 
at quarterback when you should 

899
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,640
have at least two or three. 
Like I, I think it, I think it 

900
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,320
really hurts your team. 
And it's like, dude, the thing 

901
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,680
about Richardson as well, the 
what do you win when you win? 

902
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:04,840
The ceiling has been not as 
exciting as we were hoping. 

903
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Like because he hasn't been able
to put it together as a passer. 

904
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,800
He is kind of dependent on 
whether or not he runs for a 

905
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,480
touchdown or two. 
He's not been able to. 

906
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,040
I mean he does have those a few 
weeks of season where he has 

907
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,200
just a sick throw down field, 
but he's just not consistent 

908
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,080
enough on the on the short 
intermediate stuff to really go 

909
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,720
nuts. 
They, so the thing that they did

910
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,360
last year though was they 
finally just said, well, if 

911
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,720
you're just going to be this 
inconsistent and we don't know 

912
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:37,840
if you're going to be available,
we actually don't care if you 

913
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,840
get hurt. 
So we're just going to run you 

914
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:45,240
13 * a year, which is a pretty 
marked difference from how they 

915
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:48,440
were treating him last year. 
Which is why I do think bringing

916
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,280
in a guy like Fields makes a lot
of sense that now, whether or 

917
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,760
not that's plausible is a 
different question. 

918
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,440
But to me, like I, you know, 
philosophically, you bring in a 

919
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,560
guy like Fields who you're going
to run as well and you just have

920
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,760
two guys who are going to run 
the exact same offense and 

921
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,120
whichever guy's healthy and 
whichever guy is better you kind

922
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,040
of lean on. 
Really tough situation to to 

923
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,240
call the the first question is, 
you know what, what is the 

924
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:13,640
coach? 
Where's the coach at in the 

925
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,240
timeline? 
And it's late already. 

926
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,040
It's two years and he's been 
their big investment. 

927
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,600
It's not going to be Joe Flacco.
I assume somebody else who gives

928
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,640
them more credibility than I 
think even Fields would style 

929
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,720
point that. 
Has to be Darnold. 

930
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,520
If it's if it's Darnold, 
Richardson is. 

931
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,280
Is out like Darnold gets AI. 
Think Darnold is more like 

932
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,920
Tennessee or I don't know if 
it's to be The Jets after he's 

933
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,280
already been there. 
No, it's Tennessee or it's the 

934
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,840
Raiders. 
But you you meant Raiders 

935
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,640
Dalton. 
If, if they bring in Dalton, 

936
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,320
then Steiken needs to put his 
house on the market that day 

937
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,920
there. 
There's just a 0% chance that 

938
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,880
that Andy Dalton is the answer. 
Like and I and I really struggle

939
00:47:53,880 --> 00:48:00,160
to see Richardson like a year 
after bombing in an opportunity 

940
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,840
like this was his opportunity. 
Second year comes off the 

941
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,840
injury. 
What are they just? 

942
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,920
Absolutely whiffs. 
Just a huge, huge whiff. 

943
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,320
So then you're going to say, oh,
actually he's now going to put 

944
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,160
in the work this offseason and 
it won't be it. 

945
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,360
It'll be much better. 
Like I I would love for that to 

946
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,560
happen, but the odds of it 
happening are low. 

947
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,120
Tim Camelman, Tim Holstead 
actually just did the thing that

948
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,880
would be the funniest possible 
thing the Colts could do. 

949
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,840
They just take Milro, who's 
Richardson but shittier. 

950
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,560
You just take. 
You just take shitty. 

951
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,080
You just take shitty Richardson.
House has got to go on the 

952
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,280
market then too. 
You know what? 

953
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:43,720
Actually, hear me out. 
Richardson, Milro, Lance. 

954
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Who's the 3rd? 
Who's like the worst version? 

955
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,120
Of that, a rookie I don't know. 
No, no rookie whose name I 

956
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,320
don't. 
Know the the the backup for the 

957
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,240
Ravens. 
Snoop Huntley, the old back. 

958
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,880
Guy Snoop Huntley. 
No, no. 

959
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,840
The the even worse Guy, Anthony.
Oh, what about? 

960
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,520
What about Dorian Thompson? 
Robinson while we're at. 

961
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,000
It Dorian Thompson. 
Robinson, I know that's not 

962
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,000
where you're going. 
But Anthony Wright, who you 

963
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,720
wanted? 
There maybe no I I'm going to 

964
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:10,160
look it up. 
I'm. 

965
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,720
Going to Joe Milton, Honestly, 
Joe Milton might be the answer 

966
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:13,520
by. 
The way, I don't think the 

967
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,680
Patriots. 
We're not we're not doing it. 

968
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,320
I. 
Straight up, I straight up don't

969
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,960
think the Patriots would trade 
him. 

970
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,560
I, I straight up, I straight up 
think that the Malik Willis, by 

971
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,720
the way. 
Malik Willis is a good one. 

972
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,040
That's that's, that's the 
Anthony Brown. 

973
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,520
Thank you, Justin. 
Thank you. 

974
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:31,760
That is who I was looking for. 
Oh, yeah, Anthony Anthony Wright

975
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,920
is a quarterback who started a 
playoff game like 20 years ago. 

976
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,800
Ravens, Titans, I think. 
Does that sound right? 

977
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,000
Too long ago to to matter. 
That's that's too long ago, 

978
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,880
Trubisky. 
Trubisky will be the Colts back 

979
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,440
up next. 
Year. 

980
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,400
No. 
The third. 

981
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,080
Because if you take millrow, you
need a, you need a third string.

982
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:48,400
Why? 
Would they take no string? 

983
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,760
Why would they do that? 
I. 

984
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,760
Think you might not be? 
The worst. 

985
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,160
The reason they do it is the 
reason why I think Anthony 

986
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,880
Richardson is still a little 
overpriced. 

987
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,600
He's not a terrible pick. 
I've taken him. 

988
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,640
He's fine Quarterback 3, but I 
don't think he should be the key

989
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,800
to anything you're doing right 
now because. 

990
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,200
I, I want to make, I want to 
make one more point on this 

991
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,720
before we move on. 
The big board is so top heavy to

992
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:17,600
the point of like almost being 
laughable that I'm like maybe 

993
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,360
even being less risk averse than
I normally would be. 

994
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,600
I'm just being like I'm going to
lose money 99.99999% of the time

995
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,200
in this tournament as a Max 
enterer. 

996
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,600
So like I want to be trying to 
have like insane things break my

997
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,440
way. 
Like a like what will the CLV be

998
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Anthony Richardson in August? 
If they if their if their room 

999
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,680
is Anthony Brown and Trace 
Mcsorley and Anthony Richardson,

1000
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,520
what's his ADP? 
To be honest, though, I think 

1001
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,320
we're seeing Trace Mcsorley in 
that, in that like. 

1002
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,720
Quarterback 11. 
You just start a season where 

1003
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:55,960
we're getting we are swirly 
starts. 

1004
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,240
Quarterback 11, we are, we are. 
We are just divorced, Corinne. 

1005
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,400
And I'm not even saying, I'm not
even saying you're wrong. 

1006
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,120
We are just approaching this 
with different heuristics which 

1007
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,240
is fine. 
We just. 

1008
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,440
Totally. 
I mean, we saw Tommy DeVito this

1009
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,320
year, right? 
We saw Drew Lock, but first we 

1010
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,560
saw Tommy DeVito, if you know. 
We saw them both in the same 

1011
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:20,520
game once I think. 
Daniel Jones is another name 

1012
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,320
here. 
That's that's what I'm saying, 

1013
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,480
like when a guy, when a starting
quarterback just isn't it and it

1014
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,800
isn't it in a way where like 
he's not putting in the work 

1015
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,840
behind the scenes. 
He's tapping himself out of the 

1016
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,720
game. 
He's not caught. 

1017
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:34,680
Like he's not running the right 
plays or something. 

1018
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,720
Like the coach is like, I can't 
handle this guy anymore. 

1019
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:41,120
I can't do this with this guy 
anymore, which is what happened 

1020
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,160
already with this coach and 
quarterback and now they're 

1021
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,800
running it back and like it 
won't happen again. 

1022
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,000
It doesn't matter who the backup
is. 

1023
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,600
If if the coach is done with 
this quarterback and he's like, 

1024
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,960
I'm, I'm going to get fired, but
I'm not going to go out like 

1025
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,600
this, then it will be whoever is
on the roster that starts those 

1026
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:03,320
games, you know? 
OK, let's move ahead. 

1027
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,720
One more topic. 
Feel like I'm, I'm going to sort

1028
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,360
of, well, I have been doing some
of this, but I'll follow your 

1029
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,440
lead. 
Can we wait real quick on the 

1030
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,040
quarterbacks here? 
Because these don't go deep in 

1031
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,560
the CJ Stroud, Dak Prescott, 
Trevor Lawrence, right. 

1032
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,920
You can't. 
Justin Fields, I think is deep 

1033
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,240
enough to where you're, you're 
tacking him on so late, Love. 

1034
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:29,280
Yeah, you, you're at a point. 
There's, there are I, I, I'm not

1035
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,080
taking a ton of the rookies, but
you can, you can piece together 

1036
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,040
these three quarterback rooms 
very, very easily. 

1037
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,040
And if it if Richardson's the 
third guy, that's fine, as I 

1038
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,840
said. 
But you know, having Stroud as 

1039
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,240
your third guy, potentially 
having DAC as your third guy, 

1040
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,880
that's pretty good. 
That's pretty good. 

1041
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,360
Dak used to be a seventh round 
pick. 

1042
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Eighth round pick. 
Love picking Prescott this year 

1043
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:51,920
so far. 
Love it. 

1044
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,400
Andrew Filippone, Pittsburgh 
radio. 

1045
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,960
I talked to him on Friday. 
He says his prediction is Fields

1046
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,440
is the starter and Russell 
Wilson is not in the NFL. 

1047
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,520
Oh, OK, here we go. 
It's a Evergreen. 

1048
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,560
It's a show favorite. 
It might be the show favorite. 

1049
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,520
Here's a game. 
A mystery wide receiver 

1050
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,240
comparison. 
Who could it be? 

1051
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,720
Who could this possibly be? 
I wish I didn't know any of it. 

1052
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,200
I wish I didn't. 
Know any of it? 

1053
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,000
There simply is no way to know. 
The slides are back, baby. 

1054
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,120
There's no way to know who this 
misery person could possibly be.

1055
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,280
The slides are back last four 
years. 

1056
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,880
Stats Jalen Waddle, Devante 
Smith and, you know, mystery man

1057
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,960
Mr. X. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1058
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,400
I mean, there's only, there's 
only one man. 

1059
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:43,720
It could be Mr. Higgins. 
Yeah, last three years. 

1060
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,160
That's interesting. 
Four Seasons. 

1061
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,080
Well, we, we do this. 
We do this every year. 

1062
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,960
When T has a good year, he goes 
back up. 

1063
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,600
When Waddle has a bad year, he 
goes back down. 

1064
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,720
Devonta Smith is in the same 
place he always is. 

1065
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,120
It's just relative. 
Well, he's in the same place he 

1066
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,720
always is relative to A.J. 
Brown. 

1067
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,800
So if A.J. 
Brown slides down. 

1068
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,600
Then you have to do a title 
scale. 

1069
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,680
Of moving Devonta Smith down, 
clearly the best click of these 

1070
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,520
3 is, is Jalen Waddle, right? 
And I don't even know if it's 

1071
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:20,600
that close, right? 
So Waddle, to be honest, I mean,

1072
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,520
I probably drafted Higgins the 
most just because you're you get

1073
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,880
like the what if he lands in 
Washington? 

1074
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,120
What if he, you know, what if he
gets one of these landing spots?

1075
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,440
Like, I mean, he could also 
maybe go to the Chargers or 

1076
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,280
something. 
Yep. 

1077
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,320
Well, with the downfield #1. 
It's almost more positional 

1078
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,400
thing where you feel it cause a 
lot of times you take him when 

1079
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,440
you have Barkley or Gibbs or 
Bichon or whoever. 

1080
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,920
So you're like, oh, if I take 
another, if I take another 

1081
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,760
running back here, I'm dust. 
If I take, if I take Breece 

1082
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,000
here, if I take Chase Brown, if 
I take Jacobs here, I'm, I'm 

1083
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,160
dusted at wide receiver. 
So I I gotta take I got. 

1084
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,320
It so he's like your alpha, he's
your discount alpha type type 

1085
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,200
receiver play. 
So he was. 

1086
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,600
Just the guy you needed. 
We literally just saw it. 

1087
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,520
Why would I not take him? 
He was the guy you needed. 

1088
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,760
The Waddle, What happened with 
Waddle, man? 

1089
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,400
I'm still, I'm still Speaking of
things we just saw. 

1090
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,640
I'm still broken by what we saw 
with Waddle. 

1091
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,800
I mean this was worst case 
disaster. 

1092
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,080
All right. 
This is my operational thesis 

1093
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,000
and I'd love to, I'd love to get
your guys's opinion on this. 

1094
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:34,120
Basically the Tua experience he 
gets, he gets concussed in that 

1095
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,880
second quarter against Buffalo. 
It basically just threw a, a, a 

1096
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,680
wrench in the season that was 
unwrenchable because they're 

1097
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,440
like trying to reconfigure the 
offense on a family. 

1098
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,600
A chain showed up as 205 lbs 
instead of 185. 

1099
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,200
And it robbed him of like every 
bit of juice that he had. 

1100
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,600
He became, he became completely 
juiceless. 

1101
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:04,720
So then then when so when Tua 
was out, Mike McDaniel on the 

1102
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:08,560
fly is like, OK, we got this guy
Jonu, let's just do all this 

1103
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,960
short screen crap. 
And then the offensive line was 

1104
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,960
like the I believe the 31st 
graded in PFF as a whole that 

1105
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,840
couldn't block anyone. 
And so and like, it's not like 

1106
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,920
anyone does anyone think Tyreek 
is bad? 

1107
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,360
I don't really think Tyreek is 
bad and Tyreek was awful like. 

1108
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,080
He was still way way better than
Waddle though. 

1109
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,400
But if you I if we apply the 
A.J. 

1110
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,960
Brown Devonta Smith sliding 
scale to it, that's what you 

1111
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,200
would expect If, if, if. 
No, you're right. 

1112
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:40,080
But the problem is that the the 
way the dolphins scale works is 

1113
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,360
that you have Tyree Kill, Jalen 
Waddle, right? 

1114
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,560
And it's so Tyree Kill slid down
and became the previous year's 

1115
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,680
Jalen Waddle. 
But then Jalen Waddle slid down 

1116
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,080
and became off an ACL. 
Terry Odell back. 

1117
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,520
No, no, I was trying to think of
what's the name of the type he 

1118
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,960
became Durham Smythe. 
Did he became Durham Smythe? 

1119
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,320
Well, because, because a chain 
became waddle. 

1120
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,600
What what happened was waddle, 
right? 

1121
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,720
All the waddle plays. 
I mean a chain LED running backs

1122
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:07,600
in in target share, correct? 
I I'm almost certain. 

1123
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,280
That that sounds right. 
I mean, he got it. 

1124
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,680
He got peppered with targets and
he said Janu Janu emerged as 

1125
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,240
well. 
I, I think, I do think that 

1126
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:17,280
your, your point about two is 
concussion is correct. 

1127
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,960
I mean, they, it's not like the 
concussion was the big thing. 

1128
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,840
And then how do we prevent this?
Well, we actually have a 

1129
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,440
terrible offensive line. 
So that's going to be a problem.

1130
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,800
So we need to get the ball out 
super quick. 

1131
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,320
They had just a crazy time to 
throw a quick time to throw 

1132
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,320
short A dot. 
I wrote about this week after 

1133
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,000
week in the walkthrough. 
They were just like get and you 

1134
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,520
could see it too where they they
would go against the team with a

1135
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,960
good pass rush and all that 
stuff would get dialed up to 

1136
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,680
where you could like predictably
say like you Jonny Smith is in 

1137
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,120
for a bunch of targets this 
week, as is Devon HM, because 

1138
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,680
they have to get the ball out 
quickly. 

1139
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,640
And I think Waddle really 
suffered from that style of 

1140
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,040
offense. 
But at the same time, what is 

1141
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,880
going to change? 
Like unless they revamp this 

1142
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,640
offensive line 2 is still going 
to have the same major concerns.

1143
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,960
Like you cannot let Tua just 
take hits. 

1144
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,960
So they they probably, I imagine
are going to try to get the ball

1145
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,200
out quickly again. 
Yeah, I'm just think. 

1146
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,120
I'm just not an offensive line 
grading guy. 

1147
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,600
What do you think, Mike? 
I mean, it's very changeable 

1148
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,880
year to year. 
So I feel like they know what 

1149
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,840
they have at the skill positions
and they would want to attack 

1150
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,840
that. 
I I feel like the coach, they 

1151
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,880
probably think they've got a 
good thing with his ability to 

1152
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,840
scheme offense. 
And I also, I think Waddle is, 

1153
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,440
is a a good idea, a good a good 
pick where he goes. 

1154
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,600
A lot of his numbers next to 
hills last year are not so bad, 

1155
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,760
You know, just inefficiency. 
So 26 years old versus an older 

1156
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,480
Tyreke. 
I like the Waddle idea. 

1157
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,120
You know, relatively what there 
is one more slide. 

1158
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,040
It's good work by Zach putting 
this into into. 

1159
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,600
This is nice work by Zach I this
is probably my favorite slide I 

1160
00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,840
have to. 
Say I think it's my favorite. 

1161
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,000
I like the question mark 11 and 
then this one too. 

1162
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,400
Those are my top two. 
What are we doing this week? 

1163
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,600
Drafting big boards, man. 
That's it. 

1164
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,240
We're we're. 
We're drafting, Yeah. 

1165
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,000
Hi, man, you got you got nothing
else to focus on, man. 

1166
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,600
If you if you don't know the 
rookies, there's plenty of 

1167
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,760
educational content out. 
There and there's there's more 

1168
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,520
coming. 
We're we're I'm going to be I've

1169
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,760
just started writing up the 
quarterback, so I'll have that 

1170
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,120
rolling out. 
I'm not going to publish 

1171
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,520
anything till after the combine 
because, you know, you know, 

1172
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,880
kind of like combines like that 
final, like early process part 

1173
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,800
of it a couple weeks ago. 
We should have a much, yeah, 

1174
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,560
much better sense of kind of 
where guys are going and kind of

1175
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,360
final questions answered on some
of these guys for at least the 

1176
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,040
the big, you know, so I don't 
have to put these out in April, 

1177
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,400
but I'm going to get my stuff 
going after the combine with the

1178
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,840
rookie quarterbacks. 
Going to jump on here with with 

1179
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,880
Bime 4 and talk through the 
rookie running back class later 

1180
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,800
today which will probably be 
released next week cuz it'll 

1181
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,720
take a week to upload cuz it'll 
probably be like 4. 

1182
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:12,400
Hours 3 hours show. 
But yeah, yeah, check out the 

1183
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,720
best the Big Board rankings over
on legendaryupside.com as well 

1184
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,200
as the Sidekick which we are. 
This is not a bit where we we 

1185
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,240
have available for $99.00 a 
month right now for the Big 

1186
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,960
Board. 
And if you want to see someone 

1187
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,480
use the sidekick and you're 
watching this, you're you're 

1188
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,120
going to be immediately 
redirected. 

1189
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,000
YouTube is going to step into 
your house and just immediately 

1190
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,360
we should do this. 
Let's let's play in this soon, 

1191
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,280
probably after the combine, 
we'll do Crane, you and I should

1192
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,800
do a a Dynasty Superflex rookie 
mock draft. 

1193
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,320
Yeah, yeah. 
We should get Jacob for that. 

1194
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,800
Why make it a mock? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1195
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,640
Yeah. 
Are you guys in the dynasty 

1196
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,960
orphan streets at all? 
I cannot add another dynasty 

1197
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:59,440
team man I I am already as a as 
a a solo entrepreneur with like 

1198
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,280
18 dynasty teams, 18 might be 
too many. 

1199
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,840
I did want to mention I'm doing 
a show with Eric Roton tomorrow,

1200
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,400
so to look for that, he's just 
like he's predicting the 

1201
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,120
performances of these college 
players week to week and so just

1202
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,720
knows these guys better than 
really anybody. 

1203
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,840
So we're going to be diving deep
on this rookie class with him, 

1204
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,560
which will be very fun. 
All right, you can catch Pat and

1205
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,880
Davis in those places. 
I'll be at WGR Sports Radio 550 

1206
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,440
this week. 
I'm off next week. 

1207
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,880
I might try to bully my way into
one of your draft shows. 

1208
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:35,880
OK. 
All right. 

1209
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,840
That sounds good. 
Don't act too excited. 

1210
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,640
Thanks everybody for watching my
show. 

1211
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,440
Pat Gray and Davis Maddox, see 
you next time.