Hello everyone, and welcome to the third week of in season ADP.
Chasing Cope, chasing Victory Lap, chasing whatever you want
to call it. We'll find out today if we have
any players left to Victory Lap. Let's do it.
ADP chasing is for when you watch ship chasing you go these
guys are just football guys. And the targets for outrun
leagues, that's going to be really nice, actually.
Back in if it's Austin Ack. Let's tear into our crystal
ball. close your eyes. You know all your entries are
going to. Lose anyway, Yeah, that's fair.
This is a Deuce Von show. It's.
Anti cabal. It's anti the best ball thought
leader. I'm obviously lying to some
degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys.
It's the most disgusting thing you can make, but man.
Hello everyone and welcome Week 3 of in season 80P Chasing.
I'm Sam Sherman, joined as always by Pat and Davis.
How we doing guys? Doing good?
Great. Man, just no, No.
Why are you lying? Dude?
No one's good. Well, I'm.
Feeling good after watching that intro because I'm just blown
away by by how prescient you were there reminding everyone
that we're going to lose. We're going to lose.
Betting against the best ball thought leaders and lying about
which players you drafted. That's that's all.
Great advice for the people. OK.
That is, that is extremely good advice.
Thank you. Yeah.
Yeah, Actually, this whole time I was drafting Saquon Barkley on
DraftKings. You know, you guys, you guys
weren't. Yeah.
But I my best ball teams to Sequin Barkley go to a different
school. Yeah.
Yeah, I was getting my exposure over there.
I mean, as all the sharps were I I would assume that was the way
to do it. Why was he to play like on
DraftKings? The bonus, something about the
bonuses, I think, right? I don't know.
Yeah, we did. That better underdog, frankly.
Oh, man, yeah, Saquon Barkley shoving it down everyone's
throat. We don't need to to go through
all that necessarily. Let's get into.
The media show, I gave him the the victory lap treatment and we
did. I believe so.
Yeah, you, you were good for adjusting on that right away.
I coped for a little bit longer and and now.
I coped. I coped that night in.
Vegas, I was like, who cares? And then I, like, looked at the
numbers like, I think I care. Yeah.
Actually, probably gonna have a pretty good year, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Turns out the Eagles are better
than the Daniel Jones LED Giants there.
There was no way to have. There's no way we could have
known this. No, it was impossible to know.
It was it was impossible, but we'll get into it.
You know, nice, nice tight show as always in ADP, chasing from
people who are maybe new to this new to this format.
We go through three players for each of us every week, a victory
lap player, a bag defend player and a panic button player.
You can read the descriptions there, but it's it's basically
victory lap is kind of like a buy high player, bag defend is
kind of like a buy low player and panic button players kind of
like Yikes. It's it's probably over or way
worse than we originally expected going into the season
last week. Some good calls, some bad calls,
some unlucky calls, Jalen Warren getting injured, that that is
brutal for Pat. I'll give the floor to to you
guys here. If there's anything you want to
point out on any of these players from last week.
Nothing specifically to ask here, but yeah, Davis, Pat,
anything jump out to you guys on our calls from last week.
Well, just the idea that the Rams were going to go to 0 looks
like it was going to happen in the first half.
And then from that, that that win just bought the Rams trying
until a minimum of week 13. Like the, the idea that that I
was saying on the show last week of like, oh, this is going to be
the staff. You know, we're, we're going to
see Stetson Bennett and stuff. That win just bought them so
much runway getting, getting a win in division against the
49ers that I, I really can't be overstated like Cooper Cup, who
can? These guys are coming back and
they're playing because of that win that that was.
It was so big. It was a massive win, huge, huge
comeback win too. They were down for most of that
game. And yeah, we'll we'll see you on
both Cup and puka. There was some optimistic news
on Cup. He's not going on IR.
It's tough to tell if that's. Procedural or actually it it,
it's not optimistic. It's literally because they ran
out of of IR spots. That's that's the speculation
right now. So that's so bad.
It's not great. I didn't want to say Davis,
while we're on the topic of of Rams slayers, we're probably not
going to get this in the show, but I think you gave up too
early on short King summer for Tutu.
Outwell, he he might. Be the look all that he needed.
Only because the Rams did, I mean we.
We the Rams. Gave up on him, they.
Gave up on him, yeah. Look, all that needed to happen
was for them to get familiar with DeMarcus Robinson for 18
months, realize he stinks and then for Puku Nakua and Cooper
Cup to go on the designated for return IR, you know 1/4 into the
season. That was all that had to happen.
It's. Fine.
Yeah, we talked about talked about that thesis a lot during
the offseason. Anyways, I got nothing else to
say on these. I am happy with the crystal law
they call I guess bag defending. He looked good last week, even
though the the Saints offense obviously took a took a step
back, but he did have a pretty big game there.
Yeah, San Laporta got injured, so I can't can't comment on
that. It would never like victory lap
an injured player or anything. Like that, I'm not going to say
anything about Kelsey. I'm not going to say anything
about Kelsey until we get to the panic button.
I'm not saying anything about the Chiefs till we get to the
panic button. So I also want to just defend
bag defend myself. Davis did convince me that the
the doll take was bad. And so I officially changed my
answer to DeAndre Swift, which which I think I can victory lap
because he's he's healthy. It's not very good.
And and Gus Edwards, by the way, Dobbins got up to an 83% rush
share. I project.
The first Videl week is next week against the Chiefs.
Week four against the Chief. I project.
The Gus Edwards healthy scratch is coming.
It's just a it's a matter of time.
Yeah, Videl's going to end up being fine, so I moved off that
take immediately. Yeah, but Sam, Sam, a little
little bitter after our Cooper Cup debate put it on the.
Track No, I, I hey, whoever does the thumbnails, they they had
Vidal in as your kind of button take.
I was just I was just trusting the thumbnails.
Anyways, we'll get into it for this week.
So we'll start here with our victory lap player.
As a reminder, this is a player that we think should be going
way higher in rest of the season rankings compared to when
they're drafted or if you draft them in baseball at their price,
you should be really happy for sweating your baseball teams the
rest of the season. I'll give it to you first,
Davis, who is your victory lap this week?
You know, I had to search pretty deep for this one.
It was not a banner week for my bags.
I drafted 27 percent, $2500 worth of Rashi Rice on
underdog.com. I think if we were really
drafting again tomorrow, like best ball mania, not best ball
resurrection, like we really did the exercise again, I think he's
got an argument to go as high as third.
He leads the NFL in targets per route run.
He leads the NFL in I I believe he leads the NFL in fantasy
points per reception, not including touchdowns, which is
obviously, you know, he's not he doesn't have as many fantasy
points as Juan Jennings. But I I think, I think crushy
the The Who could have predicted 35 year old Travis Kelsey dying
suddenly and worthy being on the field but not generating a ton
of targets yet. Actually not pressing the full
fanic button yet on on worthy specifically.
But yeah, Rushy Rice I think has got an argument to go as high as
the one O 3. I think a real lesson for for me
in anchoring where I had Rushy Rice in the big board at the end
of the second round or maybe in the mid second round and then
the suspension stuff. Obviously he falls a lot, but we
were in the leg up rankings very above market on him during the
suspension risk period for most of it.
There was a period where like he was like, I forget what exactly
triggered it, but he dropped into like the 80s and. 90s It it
was the second incident. It was the the nightclub
incident. The nightclub beat up the
photographer allegedly right or. Whatever.
So we took like a day off and then it didn't that didn't seem
as bad as people thought. And so we started drafting it.
So there's like basically like one day during the freak out
where we're like, let's see how bad this gets.
OK, that's it. That bad we're back in.
But what I didn't do a good enough job of is once he kind of
once he got to like the 6th the the the five sixth turn, let's
say I didn't flip him over worthy fast enough that that was
that's what I regret not not going.
I was there was no question about who I would have taken
with no suspension risk between rice and worthy.
You know, after the draft of the the suspension stuff never came
up. It would have been rice, no
question. It just took me too long to get
there. So I ended up, I think I ended
up in like the high teens on him.
At one point I was at like 2526% but I didn't chase him up the
board as much as I wish I did. Yeah, I agree with that.
And I think at the top at wide receiver, we in the the rest of
season rankings on leg up, we had Rasheed Rice as the wide
receiver five. I think like the top eight wide
receivers are really, really strong, like a lot of really
good profiles in there. Some other guys that I may want
to talk about later in the show, you can make a case for pretty
high up there. So, yeah, anywhere I think Davis
is right, like anywhere in the top five.
Rasheed Rice certainly has a case.
Yeah, if you want to rank him ahead of Nico Collins, ahead of
a Monroe St. Brown.
I I don't think that's that's crazy by any means.
So he's definitely, he's somewhere up there for sure.
It's just it seems so predictable, so stable.
He, he is the engine of their offense, especially without
Pacheco Now when they need to get stuff going, you know,
screens stuff that's kind of extension of the of the run
game, He's he's the guy there. This is going to seem Galbran,
but I really don't think it is. He leaves for one play and Juju
Smith Schuster scores a touchdown running an exact route
that Rice would have run like and I think that shows you that
the the offense is really built around him in a way that it
wasn't last year. You know, we we every like last
year, a lot of the pushback this offseason, a lot of pushback
that I would get from Rice and there was a lot of pushback on
Rice that he wasn't very good and he was just a scream
merchant and all this. Stuff, It wasn't just suspension
stuff. People were saying like, oh,
he's not that good. That was.
There. But the thing that people missed
there and it's a thing that people sort of predictably miss,
which is why I think second years do tend to be
opportunities in a lot of cases. Not always, but is it like what
happens when these guys flash year 1 is that in the offseason
they build the offense around them a bit more and that really
does seem to have happened. I think that Juju touchdown
would be an example of like, there's no way that they would
design A play for Juju there. They designed, you know, that's
a, that's a route that they trust him to run, but that was
built because they have regime rights.
Yeah, the first, I haven't actually dug into the data here,
but I'd imagine the first read target stuff like has to be way,
way up first last year because that's another place where rice
wasn't necessarily popping. It wasn't.
Two weeks. It was two weeks.
I don't have it yet, but. Yeah.
So that that just goes to your to your point Crane.
All right. Yeah, I think, I think that's
one we all all firmly agree on. I guess it's hard to disagree on
that unless you think there's still some late season
suspension risk. I don't have any comment on that
or it seems very unlikely at this point.
I guess it's not impossible, but besides that, don't see how the
Rishi Rice thing fails without an injury or suspension at this
point. Pat, I'll give you the four here
for your victory lap pick. So this is one that, you know,
it's not the, it's not going to like go forward a ton, but it's
been nice to get what we got from Zach Charbonnet to this
point. There's in best ball.
We're kind of, there's a lot of guys that we're like, he's the
clear #2 you know, this, this dude's got the the contingent
upside to fill in and all this stuff.
But we're wrong about that more than we want to admit to
ourselves in the summer, You know, you, there are Tank
Bixby's floating around out there Who it's like, yeah, I
guess he was the number two, but.
Pat, you remember. You remember Blake Corum.
You remember Blake Corum? Yeah, Blake Corum.
Yeah, who these locked in #2 guys that.
Are just remember Clyde Edwards Solaire.
I mean, frankly, like, remember either Cowboys running back?
They're the number 2 to each other it feels like.
And yet. Somehow they're all and deuce.
Somehow they're all the number 2.
They're all the number three. We we would love a #2A number 2
would be amazing. There do anything for that?
You know what it is? They're actually, this is, I'm
sorry, not to derail your point, but they're playing Hunter
Lepke, who's like a fullback. They're playing him on a ton of
snaps, like as a running back. So it's.
Like he got like a 15 yard down the field target.
It was one of the most astonishing things I've ever
seen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I know it's. Back in the DFS lineup and I'm
like, no. No.
It's awful, yeah, but but sharpening like it feels clean
and obvious. You know that.
OK, Walker got hurt. He comes in, he gets all the
snaps and scoops up for the entire value of the backfield
and scores touchdowns and stuff, but it's actually not that clean
in a number of other cases where I thought it was clean.
So it's just nice. The piece of the play hit
exactly as it was supposed to. I didn't hammer Charbonnay, but
I had 12% and he was one of those guys that I didn't ever
really understand why people weren't like more in on the
thesis of of him as like the clear #2 without it, without
really. Because he just kind of was
like, whatever last. Year.
Yeah, he's whatever. The the rookie Sheen wore off.
So people are like sharps, yeah, got to do Blake Corum.
Who who, who was like The Who is like ass who is like the Zach
Charbonnet of Kenneth Walker's at Michigan.
You know, like right. Yeah, it's just very.
Yeah, I mean, he's, he's, he's not very good.
You know, he's, he's not fun to watch.
You know, he does these things like in some of his runs, he
like gets through like, like all these bodies and they're you're
like, Nah, he does look. Pretty then will be shoestring
tackled by his. Someone will tap his foot.
Yeah, literally. Yeah.
Come on man, I think. There was a play yesterday on a
screen where he gets caught from behind by like.
A We're all thinking of the same play and all like, dude, that
same play. Yeah, it's like, yeah, he that
that is the thing. He's not, he's not fun to watch,
but he yeah, he does the things well that coaches like.
And that was kind of obvious, right last year and obvious in
his draft capital. So I agree.
It was like just a boring but like smart pic in my opinion.
I'm I'm with the Ukraine. I I didn't have like I didn't go
all in, but I ended up with, you know, above 8% on Zac
Charbonnet. And yeah, I mean, it's kind of
similar to algae here. I don't know if there is that.
There's some rings true, you guys, But it's just like we
always want to chase the sexy RB TS like Trey Benson, Marshawn
Lloyd's and like, it's just like sometimes the reliable boring
ones can be the right picks. It's it's tough to parse out and
the story isn't written on those guys for sure.
But yeah, it's it's makes sense. All right.
I'll go to my victory lap. I I thought this one was going
to get stolen. This is maybe the most obvious
1, so I'm not not breaking any ground here, but Malik neighbors
just absolutely insane through three weeks of that the NFL
season. And you know, I, I, I think this
was a place where the the sharps in the fantasy community just
absolutely nailed it. Like Malik neighbors was going
sixth round in your home drafts and in the ETR ranks, in the leg
up ranks, like all the sharp websites, he's like a 2-3 turn
pick. Like if you were following those
types of rankings in your home drafts, you should have Malik
neighbors in every single one of your leagues.
And it's just an absolute smash per Dwayne Mcfarlane's
utilization score. He's got the top utilization
score of any wide receiver in the NFL so far.
He's number one in PPR points per game.
I think technically #2 if you count AJ Brown's one game played
so far this season, but you know, number one in, in total
PPR points, 38% target share as a rookie.
Just just insane numbers like 58% area share, 60% end zone
target share. Like these are just ridiculous,
ridiculous numbers that. He's got the highest target
share of any player by over 4 or 5%.
I can't remember. It's either no one else is above
25 or 26% and he's at 30%. Yeah, that something like that
wouldn't shock me. And yeah, again, similar to what
you're saying, Charbonnet, this is not a guy Pat I was all in on
ended up with, you know, above market exposure to him.
But yeah, I wish I was. I was certainly like mixing in
the Devonta Adams, Mike Evans, like Devonta Smith, like the
more boring veteran types along with neighbors.
I wasn't going all in and neighbors in that spot.
And I wish, I wish I had now because he is absolutely
crushing it. I think talking about Rasheeda
Rice, top five wide receiver, rest of season neighbors.
Isn't that that far off from that?
Yeah, I was actually he he crossed my mind when you, when
you mentioned him. Davis is, you know, going top
three like neighbors versus Rice is an interesting conversation.
You could totally talk me into neighbors.
Yeah, it's just I think I I would not definitely I would go
Rice there just touchdowns, Chiefs offense stuff, but it's
not like same same tier, I think.
I would go right. But it's like, but only, you
know, it's like Daniel Jones versus Patrick Mahomes is why,
yeah. Exactly.
So yeah, uncontroversial one, let's move on here to bag
defending players. These are guys that they're
probably down in rest of season rankings relative to where they
were drafted. They've had some rough
performances to start the year, but we are still relatively high
on them. Start with you here Pat, who is
your bag defending player this week?
Well, the roughest performance of all is not playing a single
game, and that's been the case with Jonathan Brooks, who's been
sitting on IR here or whatever. Oh see, I moved him up.
I I don't think this is bag defending at all.
I think you should be victory lapping.
Though, oh, I can't victory lap. A player's yet to play.
So I'm just bag. I'm just bag defending.
But maybe I am. This is a sneaky victory lap, I
guess. But you know, the Carolina
Panthers all of a sudden in NFL offense under Andy Dalton, you
know they're going to throw their running backs a little bit
Jonathan Brooks. And here's the other thing,
guys, No one's scoring any points, at least not any of the
players we drafted. So who cares?
You know, who cares? He missed four games.
Literally, it doesn't. Matter.
Yeah, yeah. Jalen Warren's missed four
games, basically. Rico Dowdell's, you know, missed
all the games. It doesn't matter, None of it
matters. Chase Brown doesn't matter.
So we're. Really doesn't matter, Really.
Doesn't matter. Yeah, the other guys who were
drafting are doing anything so. Congrats, you got Naji Harris 21
carries for 64 yards instead of Jonathan Brooks, right?
So Jonathan Brooks, the upside is still intact.
Now that we get Josh Norris had a had a tweet as well saying,
you know, this is like kind of a sneaky, sneaky bullish week for
Jonathan Brooks. Couldn't agree more.
I'm, I'm excited again about one of the players I drafted in in
the 90s, which is it's been a rough go for for me in that
range of the draft. I think that's a good one.
I mean, so it's so funny. Both Andy Dalton started like 2
weeks and you know, over the past few years of the Panthers
and both times just thrown for like over 300 yards and two
touchdowns. It's just like such a tough look
for for Bryce Young, but I mean, looking forward.
Deonte Johnson, Jonathan Brooks, even some of the deeper options
Xavier Lee get, if you took them in the one sixties, one 70s, you
got to be feeling a lot better about all the Panthers pieces.
Now, hopefully you didn't stack them up with Bryce Young.
Yeah, the problem, I'm sure I did.
But yeah, yeah, I think that's that's a good one.
Yeah. Is he, have we got any reports
on Jonathan Brooks? Like is he practicing?
Is he going to? Be back.
I haven't heard anything. I haven't heard anything I.
Haven't heard anything. I guess we would hear.
Yeah, we probably should hear this week that his practice 1 is
opening is what we would like to hear.
Yeah. Yeah.
So that's why he's a bag defend. We we haven't even heard that.
He's might play soon, but just just sit tight.
We'll be OK. Sit tight and I'm going to make
this point on a waiver show I do with Hayden later today, but
he's available in like 3040% of ESPN Yahoo leagues allegedly.
Like I, I never know about this data.
It seems hard to believe, but that's apparently true.
So he's he's the best pick up of the week if he's available in
your league, like over Juan Jennings, over any of these
other buzzy guys that had big weeks last week.
If he's available, he's he's got to be your top target for sure.
Yeah, makes sense. I'll do my bag defending player,
and this is a true, true bag defense for me.
Definitely probably coping a little bit here.
This is a player I was really highly exposed to, but my bag
defend is David and Joku. I know he's injured.
I know he has a high ankle sprain.
But let's let me just cite some really tiny small sample data on
like the 20 routes he ran this year, he was targeted 25% of the
time, 25% targets were outrun. That's a really high rate.
It's not not fluky in my opinion.
Over the the whole second-half of last year down the stretch,
he was targeted at a 28% targets per outrun for a huge stretch of
the season. The rest of the tight end
position has fallen flat on its face.
It's not over for a lot of these guys, but.
I don't know. I'm I'm about ready to call it
over for anyone designated with the tight end position.
Just all of them. Just everybody.
Just just just just eliminate it, dude.
Just do it like do like they do with college football and just
make them wide receivers and then, you know, have at it.
Wow, wow. Never thought, never thought I'd
see the day. Come on, man.
What? We'll, we'll be OK.
The tight end position will be OK.
We'll, I just, I'm having, I'm having a cranky Monday, dude, I
went, I went, I went 2-2 and eight in FFPC main events this
weekend. Like I just, I'm having a bad,
I'm having a bad week. The the basically tight end
sentiment at this point just comes down to how many targets
Brock Bowers had. And he had, he had one target.
So everyone's out on tight end again.
Yeah, it's over. It was ugly.
But anyway, just finishing my joking point, like the the ankle
injury, definitely, definitely a big, if high ankle stuff that
always lingers longer than you think.
But say it's like week eight. I'm not even saying when he
returns and he's limited, limited and looks like 5 and 6.
Say it's like week eight, week 9.
Thinking forward to that point of the season, wouldn't you just
rather have David and Joku than Mark Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Don
Kincaid, all these other guys at this point like?
I'm the first two. I don't know about Kincaid yet.
Outside there.
Yeah. I mean, the other thing is
you're, you're tying yourself to Watson, who's looks so bad.
Man he he's dead last in the in the NFL and EPA.
They just spotted him a touchdown, like on the 1st snap
they scored a touchdown and then it was like that's all, are we
done? Can we go home?
That's it, right? We won the game.
Like, no, Deshawn, you're going to have to play the rest of this
game and that didn't go very well.
It's, it's not perfect, but in my mind, and again, this is like
the, the coping bag defending point of view with Deshawn, you,
you have noodle arm Deshawn. So on one end, you can get
there. If Deshawn just can't throw the
ball, they have to throw a ton of screens.
Dump Austin, joke you. That's kind of how he's won
historically. And then #2 we always think
these quarterbacks have this huge leash.
And I get it. He's owed like $300 million.
I'm kind of coming around to your side of this take, man,
like the because the Bruce Young benching is, I mean, these teams
are they're moving off these quarterbacks.
Quicker Bryce, Bryce Young benching, low key, low key.
Huge for for Njoku, Cooper even even Chubb really.
Here's the other part of Stefanci got a extension or got
some extra money this offseason. I'm sure that was part of the
conversation when he got paid was hey, man, like you, you have
some job security here. Like again, this is pure
speculation. I don't think they gave an
extension and said you have to make it work with Deshaun Watson
or else you're fired. That would be kind of a weird
way to do it in my opinion. Do the Deshaun Watson stuff.
Like they prove that they can take a huge Deshaun Watson cap
hit and be favored in a playoff game against the Texans with Joe
Flacco. Like Stefanski already proved
that. Just just don't give into the
Sunkaw stuff and just it's just time to move on.
Like, come on. What are we doing here?
I think the Bryce Young stuff shows there's like a level.
And Zach Wilson and, you know, showed this before as well,
where there's like a level at which like you just can't keep
doing it, you know, and, and, and Watson's at that level right
now. Like they it's just, it's like
it doesn't matter what he costs because playing him is not an
option. So like, that's it, like
whatever, whatever it takes, we got to move on.
Like he's he's really at that level right now.
Maybe he kind of pulls out of the tailspin, but I don't really
see why we should think he he will.
I mean, he's been increasingly bad for every year since he's
been there, basically. Yeah, and I get this like this
is definitely true the the Browns O lines banged up and
been terrible. But dude, I'm tired of excuses
for John Watson like we're year 3 of this.
He's been bad in every scenario, every circumstance.
There's there's not been one game, there's not been one game,
one throw, 1 moment where you could be like, he's got it, he
reached back in. He has throws occasionally where
you're like, oh gosh, that's pretty good.
But there's not been a game. I mean, I'd say that this last
week is pretty representative where you like, OK, you there's
some life here. They're going to they score a
touchdown to Cooper, but he had another touchdown too.
And then it's like, but overall they're a mess.
They're a mess. They lost to the fucking the
Giants. They lost.
They lost to the. Worst team in the F the.
Giants, come on. Yeah, I know.
I know. I hope they do it.
I hope they do it soon. Let's just get it over with.
It's going to happen. Imagine going he he's the first
quarterback ever to get a fully guaranteed contract.
You know, biggest contract ever. He's going to be out of the
league after it. I I don't think a single team
will will sign him right if he gets if he gets benched while
still on his contract. No, it's crazy.
There's no way. I mean, no, just for the PR
stuff. Like I don't even think A-Team
brings him in as a backup. Like what's right.
Why would that? Yeah, there's no point in it.
And yeah, he's played terrible if you want to have the
conversation that in fantasy he still projects OK because of the
rushing stuff as long as they get mature like super flex
leagues or even where you took him in basketball.
Not not some huge L like. He's going to get a line up
occasionally, yeah. Yeah, it's not about I'm talking
real, real football. Like not not fantasy projection,
like he Yeah, I forget what the Austin Gale stat they tooted out
was, but just like the worst EPA of any quarterback to start the
year. Just all this stuff.
He's just he's not he's not good.
I. Mean well, hang on, because we
you were you were back defending his tight end.
I mean, like compared to a guy like Dallas got her.
Wouldn't you rather have got her?
You're going to get this structure with Brown and Devonta
out. Certainly over.
The A.J. Brown might be back this week.
OK. Well, that that's good.
Yeah, I'm just not pricing in like long term concerns for
Brown and Demonta Smith and maybe that's wrong.
I, I certainly think next 5 weeks I'd rather have Dallas
Scott or I'm saying like looking forward to week 10 on.
Saying low, low advance rate, high playoff win rate.
That's exactly I get it. That's.
That's the cope I'm using for David and Goku right now.
Yeah, that's my preferred form of cope.
Davis, give it to you here for bag defend.
Got a lot of guys I could do here, you know, could do, could
do Xavier worthy. People just don't.
They don't really want to hear it though.
Like everyone's already made-up their mind.
After, you know, three games, I will, I will actually do one
that people are not going to anticipate.
Dontavian Wicks, but only 5 fewer snaps than Christian
Watson this week. He ran 13 routes.
Watson ran 14. That was also more routes than
either. You batted me in the first half.
Well, but this was this was not the case this.
Was Willis. But come on.
But this was not the case in Week 1 when Love was playing.
Watson was a clear for clearly behind those guys and he was
clearly behind Kraft as well. That is not the case this week.
But I think the even larger cope is Lafleur might just be that
guy. Like Lafleur might just be so
good at his job that a guy running 60% of the routes who's
as good as I think Wix is. And again, other opinions are
out there. You can disagree on that.
That's my projection. I think Wix is awesome.
And I think already seeing Watson snaps start to limit off.
And by the way, the the the Romeo Dobbs thesis that he can't
earn any targets and that he's like real Jaggy looks very, very
true. Looks like he just is kind of a
guy who's out there now. Jaden Reed is clearly just the
best of these guys and he's not going to, there's not going to
be any seating of his playing time.
But I do think particularly for what this show is kind of, I
think Wix is going to be insanely annoying for managed.
I, I, I, I just think there's almost no way you'll ever know
when to use him and managed, which is not to say you can
never, it's, you know, this kind of a false dichotomy because
sometimes in managed you're looking at Crane.
We were in this situation this week where on our main event
team we had like 4 wide receivers wall projected for
like 9.5 points and we started Tyler Johnson, which is like
kind of the reverse of what you should be doing.
Like we were literally hoping that that Tyler Johnson just got
9.5 points, right? Like that's all we need.
Well, we left Gabe Davis, who's got this game tonight, and Jawan
Jennings on the bench, right? Yeah, not great, not great, not
great, but not really relevant. The point is when you are
playing Wix, you know sometimes. Going to that team.
When when you're playing Wix, you know that that's what you.
Want Jennings is on your bench? It's so brutal, man.
So. Sometimes with Wix you're going
to eat 1.3 points, you know, like it's just the way it is.
But the weeks that Wix hits, it's going to be like 4 for 82
and two type type stuff. Yeah, I actually liked Wix more
and managed in some ways because I don't think I didn't view him
so much as like a spike week guy, viewed him as like more
binary like does he? Does he just like take that job?
And if he takes that job, he's a huge hit.
And he's actually very startable.
You know, you're you're you're not guessing about when to put
him in. You're just like, I'm putting
him in pretty much every every week.
So yeah, I mean that him eating into Watson's role and
eventually flipping Watson is exactly what we need to see for
him. Well, you know.
Also, Beau Melton played 17 snaps in this game and Malik
Heath played 11. So that's six wide receivers who
generated over 10% of the snaps. You you can send Beau Melton and
Malik Heath to 0 if you're Dontavian Wix if if you just
keep playing well. So like there there are.
And the team that's going to pass this, well, they're like,
it's pretty easy to get you to 65% of the snaps, you know, like
it it, you could really see it. Yeah, dude.
I mean, plus I completely agree with you about Lafleur.
I feel like we've. Got unreal.
Unreal. Unreal.
Some real John. Just give him the coach of the
year already. Come on.
Yeah, It's it's over. What do you think of the he's
the John Snow of this coaching tree we've got?
We've got Mike Shanahan, Ned Stark, Kyle Shanahan, Rob Stark.
You know, we got Daenerys Targaryen, Sean McVeigh and Jon
Snow. This guy, he's the cast off.
It's like, oh, you're getting some like kind of, you know,
semi related guy to the Shanahan tree, you know, whatever, but
just kindly. Working away.
Do you know that sense of the? Wall with Aaron Rodgers.
Do you know, by the way, there's there's another guy who is on
that commander's coaching staff? I I just learned this this week.
Wade Phillips's son, Wes Phillips, was on that Washington
commander's team, the one with McDaniel and McVeigh and KOC and
the other guy and and the floor. They were all there.
KOCKOC could also have the case to be Jon Snow to be.
Honest. Yeah, Wes.
Wes Phillips, the Vikings offensive coordinator, was on
was on that staff as well. I wish I knew.
Filled the the water, the water chunks in the facility.
At this point I'm I'm interested, what did you pick
up? You want any of the defensive
meeting? Someone hire someone hire
Shanahan's wife. Dude, I think her name is
Nicole. Someone hire someone hire
someone hire his wife. You see, Scott Scott Barrett had
a good tweet with his sister. His sister.
I mean, she's, she's got to be, she's got to be.
She's got to now. She's got to be.
She's got. To Matt, then Matt, Maggie.
I mean, that's just a guarantee. I wish I knew Game of Thrones
references enough to have a good joke about who Shane Waldron is
on this because he's technically part of the Shanahan coaching.
Tree Reek, I think. I think he's Reek.
I was going to say Reek or or maybe, maybe Hodor, you know,
just like. No, no, Hodor is a hero in the
end. That's.
Not OK, I I stopped watching not.
Fair to Hodor. I stopped watching after season
4. OK.
I just want to add on Wix, he leads Packers and targets for
route run through three weeks. So again, small small.
Sample. That was always the thesis.
Yeah, These are kind of Malik Willis stats.
So like you, you kind of in some ways throw out the data from
Malik Willis once you go back to Jordan Love.
But it's still a good sign that win, which is on the field, he's
getting target at a high rate. Yeah.
And as we see with the 49ers, like 112 injuries happen here.
All of a sudden Wicks could be rejected for a huge role.
So, yeah, I think you just, if you have any Packers players,
like you haven't really gotten good results for you draft them
except for maybe, you know, Jaden Reed Week 1.
I guess Josh Jacobs has been pretty good.
But I would be, I'd be kind of pumped to own like all of these
guys, to be honest. Like maybe Christian Watson's
the one where I'm not pumped. But like even Dobbs that pick
100, like I just got a guys on the field all the time with Matt
Lafleur and Jordan Love. And I'm pretty happy with that
versus some other guys. You look around pick 100 and
you're like, oh, Yikes. Like Josh Palmer, Javonte
Williams, like give me, give me a Packers player.
Like I'm all right with that. Some good comments in the chat
here. Mike McDaniel being Bran Stark,
Yeah, yeah, Someone asking who Gary Kubiak is, obviously he's
Robert Baratheon, so that but yeah, there's there's there's
some good comps here on the chip.
Yeah, I've, I have no idea who these people are, but it's funny
how quickly you can do them. Let's let's move on here.
The panic button. I'm I'm going to go 1st and
take, take the obvious 1 Mark Andrews, man.
Yeah, yeah. Over, man, it's over.
It's over 35% route participation.
You think he ran like 4 routes? He he, he, he ran 4 routes man.
It's it's, it's over dude. It's it's like legit.
So this is Jason Witten on the Raiders type type stuff.
Yeah, it's over. And clearly either the tightrope
surgery or the car crash, which kept them out of practice for
weeks, Clearly one of one or two of those things with a
combination of those things plus his aging, like, yeah, I don't
know, I I watch and. Ten team PPR league with your
buddies from high school are you?
Are you dropping him? Ten team.
There's like 3 bench spots in that league so I probably AM.
Like, I think I think he's pretty clearly a drop in.
Like, you know, Matthew Berry always used to say this when
when he'd write his stuff at ESPN.
It's like you don't have to like it, But that is the most common
style of game that people play is 10 team PPR with short
benches. He's a drop dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, at this point, like who
has more upside, Mark Andrews or Cole Comet?
Oh, Comet. Comet.
Comet is playing with an offense
that you can at least dream and imagine 40% or 4040 passes in a
game. He also he had 11 targets this
week, he I think Shane, Shane Fraudrin and he.
Used on this. Scapegoat cards on Gerald
Everett. So yeah. 17% of snaps I think.
Yeah. So Shane Waldron's probably
Stannis Baratheon actually, it's got some dark, some dark magic
going on there to get Cole commit that many targets.
I do think Keenan Allen coming back is is going to be bad for
him. He was splitting time at Gerald
Everett. I would get, I would say.
How long is he going to be back dude?
Yeah, well, I'm also kind of writing.
I've been writing off Keenan Allen's.
Heels. Yeah, I am true.
I would not write off Keenan Allen in his ability to take
targets from Cole Commit, who was losing routes to to Gerald
Arrowitt. I guess that's where I think
you're. I'm not trying to victory lap
Coal Command, I'm just trying to say this is how bad it's gone
for Marc Andrews, these are these.
Are the I agree. I agree though, I mean, I think
he's in the mix down here with like dudes who I'm not excited
about it at all. It's it's really bad.
I I just don't understand how he ran.
It's 6 PFF 1006 routes, but it's still horrendous.
Like what's what's like? Did he guess that?
I think what happened in this game is the Raiders or sorry,
the the Ravens got up big. They started running a ton of 22
personnel, SO2 tight ends in the field just to run the ball with
Derrick Henry. And in those formations, Kolar
is a better blocker than Mark Andrews.
So it's a ton of Charlie Kolar just for blocking stuff.
I mean, if OK, here's like here's the cope.
If you're trying to spin a positive story for Andrews, this
was a blowout of a game. They didn't need him at all.
He's playing banged up because of the the the car crash, I
guess is the the cope you're you're probably using if you're
an Andrew's defender at this point and they're getting him
healthy for later in the season, like maybe, maybe, but it's
that's a well. That's where that's where I
think that case is is semi compelling.
And if you're saying he's still in the mix to put up, you know,
some usable production like we're counting on from Cole
Comet or Dalton Schultz. But I mean, as far as panic
button stuff goes, from where he was actually drafted, there's no
pushback at this point. Yeah.
And yeah, this is a guy. This is a guy I was drafting for
the record, so. Oh yeah, my, my bags are, my
bags are super packed, Yeah. I took, I did the the Andrews
and sorry the Andrews, Lamar, whatever 5-6 turn, 4-5 turn,
whatever that. Was I loved it, Yeah.
Keep it Season I. Was really good at the time,
yeah. Skeleton key bro.
Tough, tough scenes. All right, Grant, who are you
banking on after three weeks? Ryan hasn't Pat hasn't even been
listening the last time. I was just thinking Game of
Thrones comps, but I'm going to go ahead and do one.
I mean, Sam, how do you not take the take the opportunity to to
say Rashad White here? Oh no, I, I veto, I veto this
Corrine because I think particularly panic button it
should be things we are personally panicking about.
You can't have a shit eating grin on your face when you bury
everyone who drafted Rashad's like.
Skirt. Hell, I can't.
You watch me. Oh, you weren't worried at all
about Buggy Irving? You thought he would just have
all the snaps and all the touches?
Oh, what's happening? Someone who can actually run the
ball is stealing work. How weird.
I was curious the. Show is is so funny that you can
set up a panic button player just to completely victory lap
one of your own fakes. Yeah, like, obviously, obviously
Rashad White is a stone, Stone zero and and come on.
Dujavante. Come on, Crane.
Dujavante I. I mean, what's there to say on
Javante? That Julio looks absolutely
sick, and apparently it's got one of the.
Best that what is this? Tyler Paday season.
What is this Tyler Paday coming out of coming out of nowhere
coming out of it's not even it wasn't even Blake Watson
brother, who I thought was like maybe kind of interesting
estimate goes on the IR and Javonte's just dead.
Dude. It's just not happening.
They they won that game. Are you saying bidet?
That's what. He changed his.
Say yes, it's not Tyler Beatty anymore, he told the team.
It's Bidet. Like a bidet.
Yes, like a bidet. You choose that.
You chose your pronunciation. You chose to bidet.
It was like a legitimate talking point on the broadcast.
They were like, we called this guy Tyler Beatty in college.
It's he said. It's Tyler Bidet.
He could be Batty, he could be Tyler Batty, and he went with
Bidet. He went with Bidet man and by
the way, by the way, I mean not to make this dynasty chasing.
I like kind of thought Tyler Bidet.
I know we all thought Tyler Bidet could be something we.
All it's a little interesting, like it's like he was a little.
Interesting. He was sort of like Vedanta
foreman of Rasheem Ali's. No, no, he was like the dare.
You sat down with Bidet and you thought this is a little
interesting. Yeah, yeah.
Which is like one, it's, it's it's bull posting for estimate
because it meant the estimate. We were right.
Yes, we were right.
About estimate, yeah, but anyway, anyway, I.
Guess even though his one carry was hilarious fumble and he
immediately got benched and moved IR, we were definitely
right about him. We were.
We were definitely right. Yeah, yeah, but all right, he
should clean up. Maybe it's hard to.
Say, well, OK, what what is the take that you want on the the
record here? Grant you can do the Rashad
White thing if you. Want I want Rashad White.
We're allowed to panic button about whoever we want to panic
about. It's not looking good, guys.
It's not looking good. Maybe.
Maybe the fact that he's been the worst runner in the league
since being in the league was bad.
Who who was saying this all last year?
It's it's hard to remember. Yeah, but then his price was
cheap then and and it didn't work now.
Now it's now it's working. Yeah, that's true, man.
But let me just let me just say this while we're doing cope
chasing the Rashawn White fade last year was right.
If just fucking Sean Tucker or Chase Edmonds or any of those
guys, I just could play at all. The Rashawn White fade would
have been beautiful. Well, Sam, I mean, I had a huge
bowl position on Rashad White his rookie year, usually my most
drafted running back. And then after the I was like, I
my pushback on yours is kind of a classic debate of ours where
like I wasn't really that in on White.
I thought he was draftable. So I had like seven, 8% of them
last year. And I was pushing back on the
idea that we had to give up on him as a runner after year 1.
And you know, the situation in him as receiver made him fine,
but I didn't have the bull position.
I mean, if I took the bull position from year one and took
it to year 2, I mean that that would have been that would have
been amazing. So we both, none of us, we both
really had to be right on Rashad.
White. Yeah.
I've never, I've never really had the correct Rashad White
opinion, except that I never applied the Rashad White opinion
correctly. But he's he's not a good rusher.
He is a good receiver. He's just, yeah, I don't know
what to say. I don't know what the excuses
are at this point, Like for his rush efficiency.
It's him. It's him.
Javante Zeke, Miles Sanders at the bottom of rush efficiency
list like. Christopher's in on he wants the
Javante take. He said he loved the feeling
that he got from Bday. Loved it, loved it.
All right, where are we now? Davis?
Davis, panic button. Feel free to feel free to just a
victory lap here like Grand did, I guess.
Yeah. Do whatever you want.
Doesn't. Matter no, I I think outside of
Rashi Rice, there's a reason to believe that every other chiefs
piece that gets drafted will be a negative advance rate player
other than stealing P Rhine. Stealing P Rhine.
No, no, it's not. And, and I'll tell you the
mistake that I made and I'm wondering, I guess what I'm
wondering is if there's any way of a person of my predisposition
to have avoided this. But basically what I'm realizing
is they simply do not care. And I thought they were going to
care. I thought the drafting worthy
and signing Hollywood was an indication that they cared and
they don't. They have already kicked 2 field
goals inside of the one yard line.
As in the ball. As in the nose of the ball was
probably over the end zone when it was hiked.
Like it would have been easier to score a touchdown than to
not. And Mahomes isn't even like
arguing with Andy. He's like, all right, come on
Harrison, come on, come in, come in, come in and kick.
Who cares? You know, they turn the ball
over. Mahomes throws a terrible
interception, which is like his new favorite thing.
And they just walk to the sideline and they kind of just
laugh. You're just like, ah, you know,
we'll get them next time. And then they do they you, you
can see, you can see that like for like a moment, they'll care.
Like they came out of they came out of halftime last night and
they're like, all right, let's go score.
And they went and scored. Kelsey like rips off.
What was it? Rice had a long one and Kelsey
had a long one and they just went down and scored.
And they just, you know, they're they're in there.
Their 2012 Patriots era, they refused to play a good game.
It it doesn't matter. It just it just doesn't matter
and I got it wrong. Yeah, I gotta say not not
fantasy football point, but as someone who was a Patriots fan
in the 2002 thousand 10s, I know where Davis is coming from.
He's in like the totally spoiled fan era of his Chiefs fandom.
You're fucking complaining about being a Chiefs fan right now
man. Like, no, he's complaining.
No, I'm I'm baseball bags. No, he was hammering everything.
Being being a chiefs fan is great right now.
Like people were people in discord last night were like, Oh
my God, do we take the chiefs money line at halftime?
And I was like, are you guys even watching?
There's there the the they could play this game a million times.
The Falcons win zero of them and.
I I misunderstood your point then I thought I thought you
were saying like the Chiefs are boring, which maybe is part of
what you're saying, but it's more about your basketball bags.
It is what he's saying, but it's about the basketball bags.
Yeah, it's, it's about the, the one thing, the one thing that I,
I will leave my light on for is that, you know, Worthy is still
going to score like 10 touchdowns Like it.
It's, it's just, he's just going to be completely useless and
managed. I mean, he was a he was a
shoestring away from from scoring a long one last night
like that. That is going to be that is
going to be fine. As the chat is saying, were the
Falcons not a miss Pi away from winning the game?
I mean, guys, the chiefs get the literal most favorable whistle
in the league and it's that's not changing either.
That's on like people get so mad about that.
Like, buddy, it's just and what do you what do you want?
What do you want? What do you want to say?
You know, it just, it just, it just is.
It just is what it is. But that's a huge bummer for me.
Kelsey is going to stink. Mahomes is going to be brutal.
Pacheco obviously is a zero. He's not going to play again
this year. Worthy.
I guess the thing, the one thing that is kind of helping worthy
is that every wide receiver who went directly out of him is like
the worst pick on the board, right?
You know, like like like actual acts.
Well. Yeah.
Smash there, man. Yeah, I it's like I'm comparing
him to like Christian Kirk and Terry Mclaurin, who like if we
were drafting the day again, like might be like 11th, 11th
round picks or something. Yeah, I would still keep like
some, I don't know, the worthy stuff.
I think I had an overreaction week one with how good he looks.
And I was like, he's he's immediately like a redraft
startable asset, wide receiver 3, wide receiver four.
That certainly hasn't came to fruition.
But just the fact that Pacheco Hollywood are now out, I think
they're going to find ways to involve.
Them over time 3 touches in their scripted place.
So their first 15 scripted place you got the ball three times
like it it the the the the the worthy the worthy fader victory
lappers. They're going to have to take
their medicine as well. I.
Would be careful, yeah. I'd be careful fading.
I'd be careful Victory lapping. A worthy fade because you're
again. He's still the fastest guy to
ever be at the combine. They have tried to get him the
ball through the first few weeks.
He's playing a lot. He's playing way more than the
faders thought. He's he's 70.
Percent. Way more, yeah.
And like, you know, what the Chiefs could really use is a guy
like Xavier Worthy coming into his own like that would.
That would be a huge deal, a really good development for the
offense. He's about to play his fourth
NFL game. Like if he didn't play, he's. 21
years old. Yeah, like the the idea of
victory lapping Xavier Worthy not being ultra productive
through three weeks is just like zoom out, zoom out you.
Know I'll tell you. This don't, Andy, you can do it
privately. Don't.
You can.
Do it privately. Yeah.
Andy would love to not be playing this guy.
Andy. Andy would.
I think one of the key things I maybe missed was that Hollywood,
I think they actually plan on playing on Hollywood being a
little bit more important than I kind of thought they would in
the early kind of thought Hollywood would be a bonus.
But my my guess is after watching them right now, seeing
the amount of like Juju that's involved, like I think they
planned on Hollywood being being pretty important.
Yeah, I still think like, I think the worthy people, the
worthy faders, to give them some credit, like some of the stuff
about him not being a complete wide receiver, struggling with
press coverage, like struggling to be reliable.
I think it's true. But again, three-way three games
into his NFL season, I think he'll figure some of this stuff
out. But yeah, it's he's.
Definitely not there yet. He's definitely got some stuff
to learn. Sure.
But like I mean, OK, so he's run routes over the last three
weeks, 242737 rounds. No, sorry.
That's Rashi. His route rates been like 77%
week 1 and then 69 percent 70% weeks 2 and 3.
Yeah. But my point was trying to get
to Rashi versus Worthy last, so so here.
He's all he's already ahead of where Rashi was. 24 routes in
Week 122 and then 31. He's seen targets of 3-4 and
four. Rashi Rice was at 12/6 and 21 to
start his career in terms of routes, targets of five, two and
seven. So it's like his targets per
outruns lower, but he's running a lot more routes.
Like we would expect worthy to come on as the season progresses
similarly to the way Rice did. Like, I don't know, I just think
you're not, you can't victory lap worthy, but he's a classic
dangerous victory lap if you're a fader at at, you know, with
Week 3 still not even over. Agreed by the way.
I will always have the opening game of the season that was as
good as that was as good as my year was going to get.
And honestly, any fantasy football season that gives me a
moment that good, how could I possibly complain?
That was like one of the happiest moments of my life.
When he scored that in a round touchdown, it was so incredible.
Yeah, it was so awesome. Yeah, honestly, and back to like
the Romeo Dobbs point about just being happy of having a player
who's on the Packers, who's on the field a bunch, you can make
the same dumb case for Worthy, right?
Like. So definitely no, the thing The
thing is, is that you can't. That's kind of the, the
overarching point is that this is going to be like the 9th best
offense in the NFL. They just don't.
They just are not pushing it at all.
Sure, I I see that point, but it's just with how many other
offenses have like completely employed to.
Zero, yeah. This is going to be like the 9th
best offense of like compared to 2022 offenses, but it might
still be the best offense. I was going to say that's so
funny, 2022, you're dead with the chief, but a team that
scores 22 points per game is like it sounds.
Great man, Sorry. It's it's the Washington State
air raid. In the NF and they're throwing
for some of those. Points.
Holy shit, that's so funny. Yeah, well.
We have some extra time. I didn't want to.
I wanted to touch on the Chiefs running back stuff.
Davis, what was your take away from Steele last night?
Or like, how is this going to evolve?
Because Pacheco's done for the year, right?
So what's going to happen here? Yeah, Steele is going to.
It's going to be exactly that. He's going to get like all the
low value touches. P Ryan is going to get all the
long down a distance, all the two-minute drill.
Steele will probably get more. He actually I think I want to
say he ran like 11 rounds last night.
Like he definitely was not a 0. Yeah, I think he ran more routes
than P Ron, technically. Yeah, but but yeah, they're
they're both, they're both going to kind of be like 9.87 fantasy
points per game ass players. And yeah, people are saying
chapter is going to come back. I don't know.
I'll believe it. I'll believe it when I see it.
It's like I've got I've got nothing to to indicate that that
is true. They said something about it on
the broadcast last night. Yeah, Mike Tirico said
something. Yeah.
But but again, it's like this guy went on IR and again, I've
I've, I've constantly like, I hope chapter feels better.
I hope that he is able to get to a place where he can play
football again. But it doesn't seem like A1 like
a like a month break helps you recover from a six year old
incident of PTSD. I I hope he's OK, but it it to
me that seems like the less the of the range of outcomes A1
month vacation or a one month break from your from your job.
I I'm skeptical of that idea for.
Job which is NFL running back, which is of even among like NFL
positions, one of the kind of the most grinding jobs you can
have so. Correct.
Yeah, yeah. And just yeah, on steel again,
advanced advanced stats from like a one game sample.
I won't say the meet it's on, but I think it matched the eye
test too that he had good success rate just right, right
at even at rush yards over expected like slightly above
average. So I think he can do exactly
what they want a running back to do in this.
System, I think it's helpful to me.
The one reason I do like Success Rate is that it's like the
coaches aren't going to go well, it's just one week, so it
doesn't matter what happened. They're going to go watch the
film and figure out, you know, if this dude's doing what he's
supposed to. Do Steele is totally going to be
a guy when you when you watch the film where where the coach
is just like, wow, he looks good, man.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, dude. That success rate, success rate
is like, you know, it, it helps weigh those factors that they're
going to be looking at and then be like, yeah, he did.
He did the thing. It's.
Just it's just so funny that he runs like Pacheco, where he just
kind of runs like kind of herky jerky, like really straight,
literal, no lateral nothing. No, that neither Isaiah Pacheco
nor Carson Steele are ever going to laterally move in a way that
makes someone miss ever. It's always through.
Yeah, it's straight through. He he finds, like he finds gaps
that aren't there, or if there are gaps there, he just chooses
to run straight into a guy. But he pushes them forward for
three or four yards. So it's gets the job done.
Yeah. And, and there's AI I've been
seeing a lot of this like, oh, maybe the chiefs will add this
running back or they're all no, they, they're, they're chilling.
They, they have, they honestly have have more than enough guys
in their running backroom. Like they just added Kareem
Hunt, who I I would say maybe if one of P Reiner Steele had been
bad in that game or like fumble or with the kind of kid.
P Rein looks pretty good, right? Yeah, I, I if you were making me
bet after watching that game on which one is more likely to
matter in Basketball Mania 5, like in the playoffs, I'm
definitely saying P Rein. Yeah, me too.
When he was getting carries, I thought he looked good.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you could be right.
I don't think it's like a slam. Dunk, But who's more likely to
score 2 touchdowns against the Steelers?
I think, I think it's got to be steel because I think like he
had a goal line role before Pacheco even got hurt.
Like I just don't see him losing the goal line role.
That's that's the problem. Against the Steelers is the is
the key part of that though, you know, because that's in
December. And so I think today, you know,
you'd have to say steel, but I don't know 2:30 and runs pretty
well. So also he would probably be out
there on the body blows body. Blows body blows, yeah, Pierre
Steel steel is the steel is the body blows guy against the
Steelers when when fucking Carson Carson Wentz is going to
be in the game because the rest by the way, the rest of the the
AFC West. I mean these teams, these teams
stink. The Raiders, Broncos and
Chargers. Is there is there a a nine and
17 amongst them? Like no shot right.
I think you think Chargers can get the 9.
And seven. Like if Herbert's, if Herbert's
OK, right? How bad?
Is the fallout from Andy Reid coming to town and running down
the Steelers throats with a guy named Steele named Steele like
that might? Tomlin might.
Retire. That's just not Smith's gone the
next day. Like Speaking of actually while
we're Speaking of retirements. Do you think that's what Russ
just does to avoid the embarrassment of getting
benched? Do you think he just retires?
I think he had. He can't just retire.
He needs to sign some kind of like announcing deal, you know,
spokesperson, you know, see if Subway is interested in more
commercials. You know, something he's got
he's got to do something. He can't just retire.
That's not saving face. He needs to retire to do
something maybe launch a podcast network of highly listenable
content something, something that he's like.
This is what I'm about now and that's why I'm leaving football
and has nothing to do with losing my job as Justin Fields.
I, I personally, it's something I'm really.
Looking forward to the season is the press conference where
Tomlin just has to finally say it, Where Tomlin just instead of
saying like, oh, we're preparing.
Like, just, I don't want him to ever say it.
I want them to keep preparing. It's almost a funnier bit.
It is almost a funnier bit if they just pretend that this is
the worst calf injury. It's such a bad has has.
Ever had and he just. Cannot.
He can't possibly play. It's Russell Wilson's Russell.
Wilson's leg right now, it's just ankle bone and me.
There's no calf there. It's just someone took the calf.
We can't find his calf. Oh yeah, yeah.
The funniest? Oh, go ahead.
You gonna start? 17 games.
I don't know. I don't really know.
I think it's probably more likely than not he he doesn't
get benched at this point, but we'll see.
The funniest, the funniest part about the whole field thing to
me right now is that like how just in in completely wrong both
sides were like the the fuel speeders were like he's he's so
bad. He's such a bad real life
quarterback. He's gonna get benched right
when he goes out there. Like he's so inconsistent.
He's gonna throw picks, he's gonna take sacks.
They're gonna lose. They'll bench him for us and
then the fields Bulls were like he has the highest fantasy
ceiling of any quarterback as long as he's on the field
bankable 25 point fantasy games every time he's on the field and
and both he's. Getting asked for fantasy and a
great game manager. He's been a great game manager.
It's just it's true, he's got more upside.
Than Russell would. I mean I I like this better than
because it doesn't. I think Fields has.
I've heard on the broadcast that he has the highest rushes per
game of his career, is that right?
He's been. He's been weirdly inefficient as
a rusher so far. The the Bears didn't.
Really call designed runs for him all that often.
He had a really high scramble rate.
And now I think he knows I, I think this is where Fields is
at. I think he knows.
He's like, dude, this is really my chance to make money and if I
fuck this up, I'm not making any money.
And the easiest way for me to make money that I can see right
now is just playing good enough so that Arthur Smith decides he
wants to pay me money. And you?
Get you? You're not getting.
Hurt not taking, not taking. Huge hits so well, it's more
like if he breaks down one of. Arty's plays and and the throw
is there, but he doesn't make it and he scrambles for 9 yards
instead. Like he's getting the he's
getting the earful on the sideline.
Yeah, Yeah, I do think, I do think this.
Is true. I I wasn't trying to be too
negative on fields like I think they are going to open up the
offense room eventually like in in your red draft leagues where
he's still available on waivers. I think he's he's a great stash
for sure because the ceiling is not dead by any means.
But yeah, it's not going to be. Was kind of a spiky guy like he
was you. Know a lot of the the rushing
guys are kind of like you get the rushing floor plus like the
ceiling for when they pop off. But Fields to Davis's point was
more of that scrambler and long run home run hitter guy.
So you'd you'd have to kind of suffer through weeks of him not
being so great and then he'd pop off for these high ceiling
weeks. So I think, yeah, it's just too
early to say he doesn't have a ceiling with the Steelers.
It certainly hasn't been what we were hoping so far.
But yeah, maybe they get more comfortable.
I mean, once he's officially the starter, right?
They carve any problems, loosen up the rings.
He's technically filling in still for Russell Wilson.
So, you know, how loud can they really get?
Yeah, technically. Technically this is like when.
Mason Rudolph had to start because Big Ben was hurt.
It's really, it's really the same.
Yeah, it's the same. Speaking of Mason Rudolph, we're
going to be. Seeing him pretty soon in
Tennessee. Just want dude.
How much does Ballahan hate Will?
Levis, he's like, I find I get a head coaching job and this is my
quarterback in the broadcast when he threw that pick.
Six. They were like, he wasn't even
like trying to make anything happen there.
He just threw up a dumb pass for no reason.
What would what would? Jake Browning.
Cost to acquire in a trade. God, he's.
Too valuable for the Bengals right now, honestly.
Yeah, by the way, like a third or fourth round.
Pick, I fear. I fear.
That some of the the Bengals hate is going to come back on us
tonight because I I fear I I, I fear like a a Joe Burrow 270
yard 2 touchdown performance site.
I was about to say 303, but I was like, no one does that
anymore. So 270 and two is the new three.
Yeah. What do you think is Andy
Dalton? Oh man.
All right, Yeah. So yeah, obviously the Pennix
pick was probably smart. Just to get a.
Backup quarterback like that's how much the back with that's
how much like just knowing you're never going to start Tim
Boyle is worth it's worth the top down NFL pick.
How does what does Tim Boyle do to?
Get these jobs. I just don't get it.
I don't like. Yeah.
How does that happen? Boyle I've seen enough.
This would be like if Ian Book popped back up.
Like that's the level where I'm like, what I believe Ian Book, I
believe Ian Book is. Technically a chief.
Oh no, I'm pretty. Sure we cannot see him, Buck.
They should have like. Like, this isn't the right term
for it, but you know, when like pick up football as a kid, how
you had like all time quarterback, all time
quarterback, they played on both sides.
The NFL should have a rule like that.
Where? Like OK, Ryan Tannehill doesn't
sign with any team this offseason.
He's all time quarterback. Whenever A-Team gets to their
third string quarterback, every team just agrees to pay him like
half $1,000,000. So he gets paid all year and he
just rotates around. Honestly, as a mercenary, yeah,
this is one of. Your better ideas of all time
this is. A great This is a great idea and
you. Can what you can do is that a
player can designate himself an all time quarterback and then
multiple teams can sign up for that quarterback.
And with the NFL we're moving to a world where there's like 3
games on Sunday and the rest are all prime time games.
So Ryan Tannehill can actually go around.
He can play Monday night and then he'll play the Thursday
night game. He'll play the Friday night
game. He'll just keep going.
Imagine valuing that basketball like.
That's worth a lot dude. He's only scoring.
About eight points per game, but he plays portable.
I think we're, I think we're on to something here at the all
time quarterback. Rule.
So Ryan Tannehill, please, please sign with the Dolphins.
Well, Andy Dalton would be a better version of that.
Yeah, he would be actually good. I think he's.
Ryan Ryan, Ryan Fitzpatrick. Ryan Fitzpatrick would have been
the all time for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you can't to. Be to.
Sign up for an All. Time quarter, you can't because
backups make pretty good money. So you can't be good enough to
get a backup job, but you have to be bad enough to to be 1/3
Stringer. But then you're like the best
third Stringer that everyone wants.
Yeah, yeah. Josh Dobbs.
Josh Dobbs is a tonic. Ideal.
It's worth talking about because it's going to happen, yeah.
I don't know Josh Dobbs, by the way, great 1 great one Josh
Doco, he's. He's good enough to get back,
yeah. 45 year old Tom Brady, come on just.
Why not? Why not?
Brady would be like the 9th best quarterback in the NFL right?
Now Brady could just start, dude.
He's just. He would.
Be you know Brady is still. A top 12 quarterback if you
wanted to. I mean he was pretty bad the
last year but. Even still, the the the the line
has changed from like so the mat is like Brady.
Yes. Can you work?
The ball down field. With like.
Short passes like tom-tom Brady invented it.
He. Invented it?
Yeah. Kidding.
Yeah. Get the ball out super quick,
you don't get hit. I mean, yeah, Brady would be
great. All right, well, I don't know
how we landed here, but time to. Wrap things up, a couple couple
things I wanted to say today. Stat chasing, which has been
going on Tuesday nights, that is available live for ship chasing
Discord members. Pat, correct me if I'm missing
details here, but yeah, basically if you pay the ship
chasing monthly fee, you get access to that live.
It's available to everyone else at a later date.
But Sacrilegist and Trico are doing awesome work on stat
chasing. Some really long episodes.
Like I think when I did it, I did like an hour and a half, two
hours. They're doing, they're doing
longer than that. Some some really crazy deep
analytics going over there on stat chasing.
So definitely check that out. And then, yeah, ship cast
Thursday night. Pat, anything to talk about for
ship cast this Thursday? Yeah, we.
Not nothing in particular, just yeah, it's always a good time.
Ship cast. We we do the underdog pickums,
we watch the game, kind of watch a long stream.
Yeah. TuneIn.
Oh my God, it's it's Cowboys, Giants.
Yeah, you got a guest this week yet?
You guys still working on that? Or I think we're still working
on it, OK. Cool.
Well, those are. Those are always fun.
Yeah, but we'll be back in terms of other ship chasing stuff.
We'll be back obviously next Monday doing the same thing.
Davis, anything you want to tell the people about besides that?
Yeah, Corinne and Jacob and I did a.
Dynasty video this morning, it's going to come out at 4:00 PM
Central time on my channel. And before that I'm going live
with with Peter. We're going to we're going to
draft some battle Royale teams. We're going to catch up.
We haven't haven't really got a chance to talk about how fucking
shitty our best ball teams are, although Pete's are probably all
right because his most drafted guy was Zach Charbonnet.
So, so, so Pete, Pete, Pete might actually not be able to
commiserate with me. He might be like, dude, this
shit is fucking easy. So, well, I guess we'll.
See that? Would be a bummer.
Yeah, yeah. That's what I got going on.
Anything. Else.
Yeah. I'll shout out Matt Herbie's
quick slant article on legendary upside.
Two of those just went up and you know, because we got the
double, the double Monday. So check that out that those are
awesome breakdowns. And then Steph Miller's Wave
Wire article will be out in a day or two, so probably late,
late Tuesdays when we've been getting those up.
So highly, highly recommend checking that out.
Awesome. And yeah, last thing I.
Have established a run. I have my breakout or fake
article coming out every week. Really went all in on Rashid.
Rashid last week and really, really tough scenes there Week
3. So who?
Who could have predicted it? Dude, yeah.
Who could have predicted the five?
5 targets, 0 catches, 0 yards. Rashid Shahid certainly wasn't
me, but yeah, those are fun. I think this week we'll be
looking into probably Dallas Goddard, Jawan Jennings, not
really like traditional breakouts happened this week.
Maybe Roma Deans Day will get in there.
That one could be interesting to break down.
But yeah, I I think you need to do.
No, you need to do a frame. By frame analysis of just where
Carson Steele lined up in the backfield on each one, I think
I'm already losing. Followers on Twitter because of.
That bit. I don't.
You are. You are.
Yeah, I wasn't. My favorite?
Yeah. No, to be honest.
Why is it happening? Sam, if you're not having fun,
what the fucking point? No, Sam, I went all the way
around. I.
Was like, I was like, this is this is an autism bit.
And then I came back around and I was like, it's like the Family
Guy thing. It's like by the by the 17th
count of where he lined up, I was like, OK, this is back to
being a good bit. So thank you that that was the
point of the live. Blogging.
I was like, at some point it's going to be so bad, it's going
to be good. But yeah, Carson Steele is not a
fullback. We'll see you next week.